00:01:37.000So I grew up here and I joined the Army when I was 17 years old and I.
00:01:42.000So, I was in the Army while the election was going on, and I saw all of the things that were happening, and I wanted to get involved.
00:01:48.000I was still in the Army, though, so it wasn't really possible.
00:01:52.000And when I got out, I got out right before the inauguration, and I started writing for this startup conservative, kind of college age Breitbart type thing.
00:02:02.000It's now defunct, but I was writing for them, and then I saw what was happening in Berkeley, and I thought, you know, maybe somebody should go document this.
00:02:12.000And of course, everybody documented Berkeley.
00:02:14.000So then I went to the next one, which was a rally in Portland.
00:02:19.000And I went to a few different rallies throughout 2017, throughout the summer.
00:02:24.000And it's really interesting because I missed Berkeley.
00:02:26.000And I went to all of them throughout the summer.
00:03:17.000Who lean more to the nationalist side and who are also presentable, like you said, people that aren't going to be crazy.
00:03:23.000People, because as you've seen, as everybody can look back, people like Ann Coulter, people like Pat Buchanan, people of that ilk are still acceptable in the mainstream and they still have really good ideas.
00:03:36.000And if everybody believed those things, the country wouldn't be in the problem, in these situations that we're in now.
00:03:42.000So I think that that is kind of the way forward for the nationalist movement.
00:04:20.000I mean, and it's great to hear that you were in the Army, serving your country and all that.
00:04:24.000And I really think that that is something that I try and bring home on the show a lot.
00:04:29.000And so it's great to hear you say that.
00:04:32.000Because you're so right about Pat Buchanan, Ann Coulter, these people who've got the right ideas and they're in the mainstream.
00:04:39.000You know, Ann Coulter, she's got ideas that I think many might consider fringe if they were coming from different people.
00:04:47.000But she has been able to take a message that is really hard hitting and true, and she's been able to mainstream it for millions upon millions of people with her books on Fox News.
00:05:01.000And I think that's really the chief task.
00:05:05.000Of institutionalizing what Donald Trump set out to do in the election, which is to say that, you know, he came out there, he's only one guy.
00:05:13.000But for us to keep that going, for us to keep that momentum going, see these reforms through all the way to the end, which will take decades, you're going to need people who are out there, like you said, that are not crazy, you know, that are not turning people off, alienating people, but are as reasonable as the ideas they're espousing.
00:05:32.000And nationalism is the most reasonable thing there is.
00:05:35.000So, That's really remarkable to hear you say all that.
00:05:38.000It's like God is answering our prayers here.
00:06:08.000But if I'm not loving the person in my country, in my neighborhood, then it's not going to help if I love my neighbor across the ocean to bring them here.
00:06:16.000So, I mean, in a lot of ways, that informs my political beliefs.
00:06:21.000So, that's, I mean, without Christianity, also, there's no hope for anything.
00:06:25.000So, that's a big reason that I believe the way that I do and that I'm able to keep going because if it weren't for Christianity, there'd be a lot of black pills.
00:07:23.000And I know you had Faith on, she's very religious.
00:07:25.000And I had Red Elephants on the other week, he's very religious.
00:07:29.000And I'm really seeing this new kind of like, I don't want to call it a movement or like an ideology, but I'm really seeing a lot of movement around people that are like us.
00:07:47.000I mean, do you think that we've got something going here?
00:07:50.000Because, you know, there's a lot of these movements like the Libertarians and others, the Tea Party, who kind of flamed out in the last couple of years.
00:07:57.000You know, there's a lot of excitement, but they kind of went away.
00:08:00.000I really feel like this is the next step for young people and for the country.
00:08:05.000Do you agree or do you think that it's more of an uphill battle?
00:08:09.000No, I definitely think that this is kind of the direction that things are going, you know, in this movement, this more nationalist movement.
00:08:16.000I think that we're kind of seeing the wheat being separated from the chaff because we're, We are seeing, you know, I always believe in the old adage made famous by Barry Goldwater that extremism in defense of liberty is no vice and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.
00:08:31.000So I think that that is a very important principle, but a lot of people take it too far.
00:08:35.000I was thinking about it earlier and I was watching the Al Smith dinner, Donald Trump speech at the Alfred Smith fundraiser dinner from the 2016 campaign after the, I think it was the last debate.
00:08:48.000And I was thinking about it because Donald Trump, you know, he's making some jokes about himself, about Hillary, about, All of the different candidates.
00:08:54.000He was making some softball jokes, just some light, good hearted fun.
00:08:58.000And then at the end, in like the very last five or 10 minutes, he just went very, very hard to the point where it was almost not funny.
00:09:06.000It was great to watch, but it was almost not funny because he was hammering in so far, basically just saying Hillary Clinton is corrupt.
00:09:11.000Hillary Clinton is a bad person and she's going to destroy the country.
00:09:14.000And that's obviously a very, very small example, but extremism to that degree is very good.
00:09:41.000I think that people are jumping into this ship because it will save us from the flood, to use a metaphor.
00:09:48.000And I think people are seeing that, okay, nationalism is good, but all of the crazy stuff, all of the wackos, And the wacky people, they're not so good, and they're just kind of jumping on this because maybe they're trolls or maybe they, whatever the case may be.
00:10:04.000I think we're seeing a separation of the wheat from the chaff, and the next step is growing it in this direction of people like you, people like Faith.
00:10:13.000Glad to hear people like me and other people that are clean cut, good people, Pat Buchanan esque.
00:10:18.000I think that is the future going forward.
00:10:23.000And it's funny you say that about the Roman saluting and all that.
00:10:28.000To me, the problem with that is that it takes away, it subtracts from the message, which is to say that, you know, the ideas that I come on the air to espouse every day, they're not rooted in some really esoteric, really out there, like historical revisionism or anything like that.
00:10:47.000I mean, I came to this because I said, you know, multiracialism, multiculturalism, it's probably not going to work.
00:10:55.000You know, if you were to run 5,000 simulations, Of what America as a majority minority country looks like, probably 4,900 of them are not going to be great.
00:11:07.000And maybe you'll find 10 that are okay.
00:11:09.000And I look at something like that, and that's pretty simple to explain to people.
00:11:13.000You've got very different people who have these tribal interests.
00:11:16.000They're competing for the same resources.
00:11:42.000You know, let's worry about the fundamentals, presenting it in a way that's going to win, and what are you going to do?
00:11:49.000Are you going to do what it takes to get where you need to go?
00:11:51.000I mean, that's what it's about at the end of the day.
00:11:54.000But we've been talking about that all week with all kinds of people.
00:11:57.000We've got to get into the Supreme Court, which obviously is big news.
00:12:02.000Donald Trump is making the announcement tonight, 9 o'clock Eastern Time.
00:12:06.000So at the end of this show, he'll be making the announcement as to who will replace Justice Anthony Kennedy.
00:12:12.000And we've been talking about it all week on the show.
00:12:14.000Last week, we went over all the different picks and who we thought was right.
00:12:19.000And before we really get into kind of the machinations here, confirmation, midterms, you know, all these conversations, who do you think it's going to be and who would you want it to be?
00:12:30.000Well, I've seen a lot of speculation from the Fox News type.
00:12:35.000I mean, at work, we always have Fox News running in the breaker and we have a lot of different news programs running.
00:12:41.000And it seems from the Fox News types, they are predicting that it's going to be Amy Barrett.
00:12:47.000They think that she's probably going to be the nominee.
00:12:52.000I haven't really looked into it too much as if there's any signaling from the White House on who it might be.
00:12:57.000I can't remember who it was that wrote an article the other day, but they were using a lot of she's.
00:13:03.000It was a high profile figure, and I can't remember who it was, but they were saying she, you know, this justice, whenever they're appointed, they'll need to do this, and they're going to be met with all this resistance, and she'll have to deal with it.
00:13:11.000So who knows if that's just a hopeful thing?
00:13:14.000Who knows if it's trying to throw people off or what?
00:13:17.000That's what it seems like as far as who a lot of the conservatives are expecting to be nominated.
00:13:35.000But from what I can tell, it seems like a very, very, it was a very, very close decision as far as the one that they're citing on the abortion decision.
00:13:46.000But with Barrett, she seems like she'll be pretty good.
00:13:49.000I don't know too much about her stances on immigration.
00:13:51.000I know that she's very pro life, which would be good.
00:13:53.000And I know that a lot of people are hoping for Roe versus Wade to be overturned.
00:13:58.000So that's kind of my basic thoughts on that and what I've been hearing from Fox and other types.
00:14:04.000Yeah, I've been hearing similar things.
00:14:06.000It's tough to say because it's all rumors.
00:14:08.000I'm looking at the timeline all night, and it's, well, we saw Kavanaugh get out of a black sedan with Secret Service.
00:14:14.000We saw that Barrett's at home in Indiana.
00:14:17.000No, actually, she's on her way to D.C.
00:14:21.000It's tough to distinguish the rumors from what's true.
00:14:24.000I've heard, and I think this has been basically the case for the last couple of weeks, is that it's been narrowed down effectively to Kavanaugh.
00:14:33.000And, you know, we've been looking at them all week, the two, and I think they'd both be okay options.
00:14:38.000Well, I mean to say that I wouldn't be disappointed with either of them, but like you said, I think you look at Kavanaugh, and he's the big winner on immigration.
00:14:48.000And then it really becomes a question of what are your priorities in a justice?
00:14:52.000I think for the more nationalist minded, the more immigration minded coalition that put Trump into office, which is the people who are upset about illegal immigration, people upset about, frankly, lots of legal immigration and other things, I think.
00:15:08.000They look at a guy like Kavanaugh, who has ruled decisively in three different significant cases in favor of U.S. workers, U.S. manufacturing, all the rest, as opposed to the conservative, ink, GOP establishment, Tea Party type people.
00:15:24.000And, you know, there's a lot of good people in that movement where, but maybe their priorities are more geared towards pro life, more geared towards those Christian type things.
00:15:33.000And don't get me wrong, you know, I see both sides.
00:15:35.000I'm very pro life, but I'm also strong on immigration.
00:15:38.000I see where they might side more with an Amy Barrett who's better on immigration.
00:15:42.000Now, as an unbiased person, if we could kind of step out of our personal biases and look at it objectively, we're looking at our country in 2018, and we see the trends.
00:15:53.000And at once, you have two very pernicious trends immigration is out of control.
00:15:57.000You've got tens of millions of people coming every decade, it's unchecked.
00:16:14.000Many things people talk about over the last 100 years because it's like a genocide.
00:16:18.000So, as an unbiased person, you look at the country, you look at these two terrible things, and we like to have both, but oftentimes we don't have the luxury of having both.
00:16:28.000If you could make the choice, which do you think should be the priority and why?
00:16:31.000Should it be immigration or abortion in a decision like this?
00:16:36.000Well, you know, that's a very, very tough one because, like you said, abortion is such a big deal.
00:16:41.000The thing is, I think that immigration is going to be the political.
00:16:46.000It's going to be the political debate of our generation because all the other generations have put it off or made it worse.
00:16:53.000Thanks to the baby boomers, we've had a worse immigration system.
00:16:57.000But the other ones have put it off for so long that it's left up to us.
00:17:00.000It's going to be one of the most decisive policy decisions of our generation.
00:17:05.000And you talk about how bad abortion is and it's terrible.
00:17:08.000I mean, you know, I don't know the stats of how many babies are aborted overall, but I know that today I heard that 52% of the black population is aborted before they're even born.
00:17:18.000And that's a horrible, horrible, terrible thing.
00:17:20.000So, like you said, it is worse than slavery in some ways.
00:17:24.000But if you look at immigration over the next 40 years, over the next 50 years at the most, we won't have a country to worry about abortion in the way that we do now because the makeup of our country will be fundamentally changed by, I believe, 2042 or 2048 or some number like that.
00:18:07.000That turns into 20 million new people.
00:18:10.000When you're taking people in that fast, there's no time for assimilation, and you're going to have a very, very big problem.
00:18:17.000And that's kind of the problem that we're running into now.
00:18:19.000We're going into a kind of an uncharted situation.
00:18:22.000Territory where there will be more immigrants than we can handle.
00:18:25.000There will be more unassimilated people than we can handle.
00:18:29.000So I think that probably what we need to do first is like, you know, if you have a ship that's, you know, maybe on fire in one area and there's also a hole in the ship, what you should probably do is patch the hole first so that you have a ship to put the fire out.
00:18:43.000And I think that's what we need to do.
00:18:44.000I think we need to make sure that we reform the immigration system to where obviously illegal people aren't coming through, but also we cut down on the number of people coming in.
00:18:56.000If we can do both at the same time, that's obviously ideal.
00:18:59.000But that's kind of the way that I see it.
00:19:02.000If we don't fix the other, then we won't even be able to worry about the other one.
00:19:05.000I like that analogy because, I mean, that's the right framework for how to think about immigration, right?
00:19:10.000I mean, because, I mean, you're right on the money in that analysis in the sense that what happens to the country is entirely dependent on having a country.
00:19:20.000And what immigration ensures is that the country will not remain the way that it is.
00:19:26.000So, And this is really what got me on board with Donald Trump in the first place.
00:19:30.000I started out much more aligned with Ted Cruz.
00:19:34.000I was this constitutionalist, minarchist kind of character.
00:19:37.000I think we all went through some kind of a phase like that, either left wing or libertarian.
00:19:42.000I was a libertarian for a little while.
00:19:44.000It was almost to the point of almost didn't get there and didn't stay there for long, the point of saying that the state is inherently immoral.
00:19:51.000I actually saw in my timeline the other day, it popped up the Nicholas J. Fuentes show on, I don't remember the channel, LTTV.
00:20:02.000I saw the debate between you and that, the other, I don't know what his name was, but he was having trouble putting a sentence together there in favor of.
00:20:20.000Well, yeah, I mean, that was, you know, because at the time, even during that debate, you know, I had no idea what was going on in the country.
00:20:34.000I mean, if you don't have a country, if the people that are coming in are voting for big government, if they're voting, and I say big government, not even like I have such a.
00:20:43.000Massive problem with big government anymore, but in the sense that it's voting against the texture of life that we've known in this country for 200 years.
00:20:52.000And so this fundamental transformation is going to happen if you don't check immigration.
00:20:57.000And so it's not really a question of, you know, is abortion the number one priority or is it not?
00:21:03.000It's not really even going to be up for debate in a couple of decades.
00:21:07.000In a couple of decades, we're going to be completely overrun by foreigners and we're not going to have a say in the matter.
00:21:27.000This is just a lot of opportunism by Tea Party people.
00:21:30.000But nevertheless, I think it is an important point to make that the framework surrounding immigration is entirely different than all the other issues.
00:21:39.000You know, people like to compartmentalize and say, well, immigration's over here.
00:21:44.000And abortions over here and economies over here.
00:21:48.000And underlying all of them is the demographic situation of the country.
00:21:53.000If you don't have that demographic stronghold of people that are virtuous, to an extent homogeneous, harmonious, et cetera, you cannot make advanced policy decisions that are good for the country.
00:22:23.000And I would also add, before we move on, I don't want to interrupt, but I would also add with this new Mexican president, it's even more imperative that we seal off the borders in multiple ways because not only has he said that it's a human right to take up residence in the United States, he's urged Mexican people to cross the border legally or illegally and set up shop.
00:22:44.000It's part of the whole, I mean, The fact that it's controversial to bring up the fact that the Mexicans actually have like a reconquista effort, I mean, it's astounding, really.
00:22:52.000But he's urging people to cross the border illegally and take up residence and seek out DACA status, amnesty, whatever the case may be.
00:23:01.000But also, his opponents have claimed that he, and his opponents are not exactly far right, okay?
00:23:07.000His opponents have claimed that he will use the model that was used in Venezuela.
00:23:11.000If you look at Venezuela and you look at Hugo Chavez, he took power in 1999.
00:23:39.000Now, picture that as a country on our border, and their government's not trying to keep them in because they think that we should be settled, like we should be colonized by their people.
00:23:50.000It's going to be a very, very bad situation.
00:23:54.000The illegal immigration process is going to be sped up probably exponentially.
00:23:58.000So, that's another reason that it's so imperative to get the border situation taken care of.
00:24:06.000It is worth stating that America is the only first world country in the world that borders a third world country.
00:24:13.000I think it's been described by academics as the biggest gap in wealth between any two contiguous countries, in the sense that, I mean, you look at Europe and France borders what?
00:24:34.000And so the refugee crisis, I mean, they're getting it, but the people have to.
00:24:38.000They have to come across the sea and they have to get assistance from NGOs or the Europeans themselves, or they have to trek across the Middle East, across Turkey, across Eastern Europe to get there.
00:24:48.000America, there's this massive vacuum of all the money up here and a lot of poor, sad people down there.
00:24:56.000And that is just the inevitable, you know, it's like a chemical process.
00:25:01.000It's just natural diffusion between a place where there's lots of resources and people who want those resources.
00:25:08.000And that's so true about getting a judge in there because.
00:25:11.000Those are, there are going to be big decisions coming down to the Supreme Court about the president's jurisdiction to act on this issue.
00:25:18.000And this actually segues perfectly into my next question, which is we're looking at big cases that are coming up to the Supreme Court.
00:25:26.000People are talking about Roe v. Wade, you mentioned before.
00:25:30.000They're looking at affirmative action.
00:25:32.000And I think one that people are not talking about a lot is immigration.
00:25:36.000When President Trump talks about rewriting the immigration system via an executive order, and what that means is making it so that instead of Processing every person who comes to a checkpoint or every person who crosses the border, we just prevent them from coming or we immediately escort them out.
00:25:54.000We're going to need a court that's going to uphold that.
00:25:56.000Because, like we saw at the refugee ban, these circuit judges, these district courts, et cetera, they're acting effectively as a one man veto against the president's sovereign immigration jurisdiction given to him by the second article of the Constitution and the Immigration and Nationality Act.
00:26:13.000So, you're looking at all the different cases that are coming before the Supreme Court and And what do you think is really going to make a difference here?
00:26:21.000Because, you know, immigration is going to be a big one, but also what do you think about some of the social issues, other issues?
00:26:27.000Because this is going to be a big judge.
00:26:28.000It's going to transform the court for 30 years.
00:26:31.000What do you envision as the legacy, maybe, of this decision, of this court in these various cases that are coming forward?
00:26:38.000Well, it's going to be a very, very big deal.
00:26:40.000I mean, what a lot of people don't understand, you know, a lot of the panicking Democrats understand this, but this is going to shape the courts, American politics, et cetera, American government for the next, you know, A couple decades at least, probably more, not just in the justices that'll be on the bench for however long they're living for or decide, you know, until they decide to resign, but in the policies or the decisions that they decide to make.
00:27:08.000I don't remember the exact year that it was decided in, I believe, 1972, if I may be mistaken, but that was, you know, 40, you know, how many years ago, and it's still affecting American political discourse today.
00:27:20.000So, I think that the legacy of this court, if, you know, say that Kavanaugh gets through, I think that it's going to affect.
00:27:26.000The country decades out, which is obvious.
00:27:31.000And it goes back to like we were talking about earlier.
00:27:33.000We have to have a country in the next 40, 50 years.
00:27:39.000Hopefully, with the rulings that come out of the court in the next few years or so, I'm not exactly sure how we can get the other courts in line.
00:27:49.000I think that it's frankly embarrassing that our judicial system is choosing to act in the way that it is, like you said, acting as a veto power to the president, as we know that that's not the way that the Constitution designed the judiciary to be.
00:28:04.000Maybe that involves breaking up the Ninth Circuit in some way.
00:28:07.000I'm not a judicial scholar, so I'm not exactly as familiar with how the judicial system works as perhaps I should be.
00:28:13.000But I think that it's going to be very, very important.
00:28:16.000It's going to shape American politics for decades.
00:28:19.000And, you know, there were the social issues.
00:28:21.000I saw somebody today on Twitter talking about how we should not touch social issues because that's when we start losing.
00:28:31.000But when you decide not to touch social issues, it was Tommy Laren or Tommy Loren that was saying that stuff.
00:28:35.000When you decide not to touch social issues, that's how you get drag queens in elementary school.
00:28:39.000Okay, that's, you know, it went from gay marriage to drag queens in elementary schools.
00:28:45.000So that's an example of how social issues can affect things going forward.
00:28:49.000If gay marriage hadn't been legalized by the court however many years back in 2012, then we wouldn't have this problem to the degree that we have it now with this social and sexual degeneracy that we see influencing even kindergartners.
00:29:03.000One of my first reports was on sexual education given to kindergartners.
00:29:20.000I was going to talk about that as well, Miss Tommy Lahren.
00:29:23.000You know, I imagine going in a time machine and going back to various figures in politics.
00:29:30.000I imagine going back to Julius Evola and Russell Kirk and Edmund Burke and Joseph de Maistre, all the great conservative icons.
00:29:40.000And telling them that the future of right wing discourse is a little Jewish man, Ben Shapiro, this smarmy little Jewish man, and some blonde airhead debating back and forth about facts don't care about your jokes.
00:31:57.000But I don't think that it's a one way street because.
00:32:00.000You know, you look at the gay marriage decision in 2012.
00:32:04.000Prior to that, all conservatives were against gay marriage.
00:32:06.000Now, after the Supreme Court makes that decision, all of a sudden we have all these conservatives, like you said, and kind of to a degree like what I said.
00:32:17.000But also, like you said, it's like, well, if we don't have a virtuous society, if my kids are learning from, you know, Mr. or Mrs. Drag Queen in their school, if it's all, you know, if all of the politicians are like in that ad that I think he's like Maryland governor.
00:32:33.000Candidate or something, and it's like him and his husband like kissing, and it's like F you, Trump.
00:32:38.000If that's America, then I don't care about the debt.
00:32:44.000Like that's God's judgment upon this country, if that's what it's like.
00:32:47.000So I think that we need to simultaneously worry about the debt.
00:32:50.000I think that we also need to worry about social issues.
00:32:53.000And I don't think that it should be like legislated like you can't lie or else you're going to jail or you can't think these thoughts or whatever.
00:33:03.000Our country needs some sort of moral basis.
00:33:05.000And while the Constitution is not based upon the Bible, the founders did base their beliefs on the Bibles.
00:33:14.000The Constitution is not, it doesn't take excerpts from the Bible, but our politicians are influenced by different things, whether they're influenced by John Locke or Hobbes or whoever.
00:33:26.000They can also be influenced by Jesus Christ.
00:33:28.000So if we are influenced by our Christianity, I think that we can legislate in a way that encourages virtue.
00:33:37.000Discourages certain types of degeneracy and deviancy socially.
00:33:42.000So I think that that's an important thing.
00:33:43.000They're obviously very intertwined because without the 2012 decision, conservatives never would have turned to suddenly be pro gay marriage.
00:33:51.000It was clearly a result of the government changing its policy.
00:33:55.000So I think that that's an important thing that conservatives need to realize.
00:33:59.000And that, you know, the only reason that we've been losing is because we don't fight back hard enough.
00:34:03.000We say, well, you know, I'm for marriage between a man and a woman.
00:34:07.000And then they're like, You know, you're hateful or you're a bigot or you're a homophobe.
00:34:10.000And then conservatives like, no, I'm not.
00:34:13.000And they get so bogged down in that nonsense that they're not actually fighting.
00:34:17.000Blood doesn't actually believe that you hate anybody.
00:34:19.000They're just, you know, it's like the one thing that Ben Shapiro said right is, you know, during the 2012 election, Mitt Romney framed Obama as a nice guy that was probably just wrong on some things, whereas Obama framed Romney as an evil, terrible person.
00:35:13.000He said the Democrats want to bring MS 13 to your house.
00:35:16.000You know, they're not strong enough on them.
00:35:18.000By picking a battle like that, by picking one that you can win, by picking one that is extreme and out there and a clear demonstration of why the principle doesn't work, you can win a battle like that.
00:35:29.000But conservatives, they never do this on issues like this.
00:35:34.000So when the left says, well, you're just not compassionate enough on immigration, they want to say, no, no, we're actually the compassionate ones.
00:35:41.000Look at, actually, it's so compassionate.
00:35:44.000You know, you've already lost when it's reactive like that.
00:35:46.000You've already conceded the ground on that.
00:35:48.000And on the social issues, The same was true.
00:35:51.000You know, the left said, Oh, well, you know, look at these poor people and you just hate them.
00:35:55.000And Republicans, instead of saying, Look at these freaks, look at people who are trying to corrupt the youth.
00:36:15.000You know, so it was, I think they really fumbled the messaging of it.
00:36:18.000And if we had people that were really fighting back hard on these kinds of things, like you said, there's a big appetite.
00:36:24.000For social traditionalism, for social conservatism.
00:36:28.000You know, because you look at young people that are out there these days, and consumption is not enough to satisfy their spiritual appetites.
00:36:37.000This libertarian message of, well, it's just about the GDP, we just want a rich nation, and let the chips fall where they may.
00:36:50.000You know, that's not enough for people.
00:36:52.000They're saying, well, we want something else, we want something that's a little bit more substantive.
00:36:56.000There's a tremendous appetite for that.
00:36:58.000And if conservatives would give that to them straight and give it to them that is wholesome and is forceful and is all the things that it should be, as opposed to this kind of milquetoast, half hearted, well, I think it's this way, but everyone can do what they want.
00:37:13.000I think there's really an opportunity there for conservatives to break through.
00:37:20.000Hopefully the tide begins to turn with these court cases because there is another religiosity happening in the country.
00:37:27.000That's what propelled Bush into office.
00:37:29.000Regrettably, that's what propelled Trump into office in a big way this big, this fourth religious awakening in America that is evangelical in character, but is a social conservatism.
00:37:42.000Hopefully, it'll happen with the new justice.
00:37:45.000But, I mean, these are the issues, these are the cases.
00:37:48.000What I wanted to get into, and we're coming up on the last third of the show here, I want to talk tactics here, which is, of course, the confirmation battle, because Trump's going to pick somebody, and then it's got to go through the Senate, and that's going to be a big ordeal.
00:38:17.000What are the pros and cons in terms of the confirmation process?
00:38:19.000What do you think that's going to look like moving forward as we try and get somebody through the Senate?
00:38:26.000Well, so the issue is if John McCain is absent, then that leaves a 50 49 split in the Senate for the Republicans, which means that the Democrats only need to get.
00:38:36.000One Republican to come over to their side.
00:38:39.000Now, it's all about messaging as far as how we go forward towards the midterms.
00:38:45.000If we win, you know, by win, I mean, if we get this justice confirmed before the midterms, it's, you know, look at everything that we've done.
00:38:57.000Now, imagine if, you know, Hillary Clinton was in charge or if the Democrats were in charge of the House or the Congress, this never would have happened.
00:39:03.000You need to elect Republicans again so that this can happen.
00:39:08.000In the next two years or in the next four years, whenever the case may be that the next seat is open, because there will very, very likely be at least one seat open by the end of Trump's second term, supposing he gets one, which I do believe that he will.
00:39:20.000So that'll be the messaging if we can get him confirmed.
00:39:22.000Now, if or her, and if we can't get the justice confirmed, we'll have to take a different messaging.
00:39:29.000And I think that messaging is one of the things that Trump is really, really good at.
00:39:32.000If it weren't for him and it were just the Republicans, I wouldn't have that much faith because, like you were saying, they're historically bad at messaging.
00:39:39.000So, if we don't get them confirmed, it'll be, you know, look at the situation.
00:39:45.000It's so easy for the Democrats to be obstructionist.
00:39:47.000It's so easy for them to throw a wrench in the gears of making America great again.
00:39:51.000All of the different things that we promised you, we being Donald Trump and his Republican coalition in Congress, we need to elect more Republicans because if the Democrats take control of the Congress, this will never get through.
00:40:13.000I think that depending on Trump's messaging, I think that we can use it to our advantage either way, but obviously the Democrats are going to be going on the opposite side of that, using it for a negative on why they need to get elected.
00:40:26.000Of course, they're not quite so good at messaging right now.
00:40:29.000They've got people like Ocasio Cortez who are pulling the swing voters, pushing the swing voters more towards the Republicans, and they're also splitting their votes in a certain way in a lot of the upcoming primaries.
00:40:42.000So I think it'll be kind of an interesting situation as far as that's concerned.
00:40:46.000Yeah, it'll be tough with the confirmation hearing because, like you said, if John McCain goes out, and it's probably unlikely that he'll be voting, and this has been the case for the last several months, I think almost a year now, it's going to be 50 49, and that's with the tiebreaker we'll be able to get a nominee through.
00:41:05.000And what's tough about that is you have to get every single Republican on board.
00:41:09.000And this is where I think some of the other considerations about Barrett have to factor in.
00:41:12.000I mean, it's tough because, on the one hand, with Barrett, you had.
00:41:17.000Several justices from, or rather, several senators from the other side go in and vote for her just nine months ago.
00:41:24.000You had Donnelly vote for her, you had Manchin vote for her, and this was nine months ago.
00:41:30.000But at the same time, and this is the trick with Barrett, why it might be a smart pick for the confirmation hearing, but kind of a double edged sword.
00:41:37.000On the one hand, she's very strong on abortion, and so that's why Republicans like her.
00:41:43.000But at the same time, that's also turning away Republican senators.
00:41:45.000So she's got these two Democrat senators who voted for her nine months ago, but By the same token, you have Murkowski from Alaska and Susan Collins from Maine, who said that they might not vote for the nominee if they're for overturning Roe v. Wade.
00:41:59.000And although Barrett has said in the past that it's settled law, many people say that she would probably vote, and of course, why wouldn't she, in favor of overturning?
00:42:08.000So with Barrett, it's kind of a double-edged sword here.
00:42:11.000It's almost kind of goofy, you know, because she can't get all 50 Republicans in her own party.
00:42:17.000Well, presumably, if Murkowski and, uh, If Murkowski and Collins don't go their way, but at the same time, she might be able to get the Democrats.
00:42:26.000And that brings in the larger conversation, which is what to do about these Democrats and the broader nuclear option.
00:42:33.000Because, on the one hand, conventional logic would say, well, it should just be a party line vote.
00:42:39.000It should be all the Republicans against all the Democrats.
00:42:42.000Because of the way it's operating right now, that might be tough.
00:42:44.000I mean, Jeff Flake said he would vote for the nominee, so that bodes well for the establishment maybe going for us.
00:42:52.000Then he got these two women who are outliers.
00:42:54.000But by the same token, not only do you have Connolly and Manchin who voted for Barrett before, but you also have Heitkamp and you also have McCaskill in North Dakota and Missouri, respectively, who are facing very tough midterm elections in states that Trump won.
00:43:14.000So it's just really going to be tough calculus here.
00:43:17.000And then you talk about the nuclear option, which is to say that if you could even, you know, if we're willing to go through with the nuclear option a second time and get it through with a simple majority.
00:43:27.000You know, even then, if you'd be able to cobble together the votes, then we have to think about what the Democrat reaction is going to be.
00:43:32.000And then I wanted to ask you about that.
00:43:34.000You know, let's say, hypothetically speaking, we put in place the nuclear option, and whether it's Barrett or whether it's Kavanaugh, we're able to get him through.
00:43:44.000Either Barrett's able to get all Republicans, we're able to whip the two votes, or Democrats come over.
00:43:50.000Kavanaugh, he's a party line vote, just like he was when he got confirmed as a circuit judge.
00:43:55.000Let's say they get through with the nuclear option.
00:43:57.000Now, let's say somewhere down the line, Democrats have their H bomb to our A bomb.
00:44:05.000They come up with the ICBM option and they pack the courts.
00:44:09.000Because, of course, in the Constitution, it says that you don't have to have nine justices.
00:44:51.000And we've seen that his whole legacy has been dismantled by Trump because of that.
00:44:57.000And so that's kind of the nerve wracking thing.
00:44:59.000It's like, well, because of that, Because of the simple majority vote and everything, it's possible that they could try to stack it in the future.
00:45:09.000I think that that's a legitimate fear to worry about.
00:45:13.000The thing is, we have to make sure that if that's the case, we have to make sure that we're taking a holistic approach to how we look at the government.
00:45:22.000We can't just focus on one area like we have in the past.
00:45:25.000I think that right now we're doing a pretty good job of making sure we have Trump.
00:45:28.000A lot of people are working pretty hard to make sure that we maintain a Republican House and Senate.
00:45:36.000So, it's, I think that that's probably the way that we need to go forward is just making sure that no matter what the case is, that we're taking a holistic approach to who's in charge in each branch of the government.
00:45:47.000I don't doubt that the Democrats would try to stack the courts in that way, just the same way that I don't doubt that they'd try to impeach Trump for no reason.
00:45:56.000So, I think that that's something to be worried about, but I'm not sure if it's enough fear to be quite on the radar yet, but I'm not totally sure.
00:46:25.000You know, they inaugurated that under Harry Reid.
00:46:27.000So I think at this point, and a lot of people are talking about that court packing, Vox and Vice, and, you know, it's all the same people that were saying Hillary can still win, Bernie can still, you know, this kind of stuff that are now saying we could still pull it out if we pack the courts.
00:48:55.000And what's beautiful about it is the Neil Gorsuch thing was an unequivocal victory.
00:49:01.000You just simply can't take that away from Trump.
00:49:03.000You could say, well, the economy is residual from Obama, or it's because of X, Y, and Z. You could say, well, North Korea wasn't really a good thing.
00:49:12.000I mean, you could come up with every excuse in the book, but when Trump put Gorsuch on the court, that was a win for every Republican because, I mean, you go from Bill Kristol to anybody.
00:49:23.000I mean, they said that was a big, that was good for conservatives.
00:49:26.000And even Democrats had to acknowledge that's good for Republican, conservative, right wing policy.
00:49:46.000If it's a good pick, and I think it's a good pick that they'll be willing to sell, I think that's going to really give him a big boost because what we talked about so often when we looked at the special elections, when we looked at the primaries, it was the enthusiasm gap, which is to say that Democrats are going to turn out in droves because they can concentrate all their angst and anger.
00:50:07.000Toward one goal, which is hurt Trump in any way.
00:50:47.000I think that it'll be very, very big because it'll secure this idea that the Trump presidency, the Trump administration, will be one of the most consequential presidencies of our time.
00:51:00.000We always hear it's the most important election of a generation.
00:51:02.000But this one really may be one of the most consequential presidencies we've seen in decades, perhaps since Reagan in a lot of ways, perhaps since even earlier, because of the fact that he'll get to appoint multiple Supreme Court justices, likely another one after this one.
00:51:18.000So that will be very, very important in decades going forward.
00:51:22.000But also, if we get the wall through, if we get all these different things, if we save the U.S. from this immigration crisis, it really will be one of the most important presidencies, one of the most consequential ones that we've seen.
00:51:37.000I think it'll be a very big driver for Republicans to the voting booths in the midterms.
00:51:42.000I think that they'll want to secure that.
00:51:44.000I think that they'll want to secure it this year and then going forward in 2020 and hopefully all the way to 2022.
00:51:51.000But I think that that'll be a very, very important boost to the president and to the Republicans in Congress because people will want to keep the momentum going.
00:52:04.000I feel like it's just been big white pills, you know?
00:52:06.000Because spring, it was kind of tough because we had serious strike number two, which, by the way, I never got a chance to toot my own horn about that.
00:52:16.000You know, I can't tell you, I don't know if you get the same thing, but every time something bad happens with Trump, every time, well, not even bad.
00:52:24.000But every time there's a nasty headline or something appears to be not going 100% according to plan, I get the nastiest messages.
00:53:32.000If you go to the InfoWars YouTube channel, you go to the little Jake Lloyd Report playlist and you go back to about March, April-ish, you'll see that I predicted everything that's happening now.
00:53:44.000I predicted the way that Trump is going to handle Iran.
00:53:46.000So, just to get my gloating out of the way, but yes, no, I 100% do experience that because in the comments of all these videos where I'm saying, like, don't freak out yet.
00:55:50.000I get called Bill Mitchell every once in a while, too, in the comments.
00:55:52.000Bill Mitchell doesn't predict things the way that I do.
00:55:55.000Like, if you look at my video on the Middle Eastern arms race, I was saying it back then.
00:56:00.000And now all the mainstream publications are saying, oh, there's going to be a Middle Eastern arms race because if Iran chooses to get a nuclear weapon, then Saudi Arabia wants to get one.
00:56:07.000And I was talking about it, and I also talked about how the leverage was going to be worked in order to bring a peace plan.
00:56:29.000It's that delayed gratification that some of these people have trouble with.
00:56:32.000They talk so much about time preference and high time preference individuals and this kind of stuff, but then they can never contain themselves in the moment.
00:56:41.000See, me, I much prefer taking the slings and arrows.
00:56:45.000Oh, give me the hate, the comments, let me gloat, be the least popular guy on the internet, because three months, we know.
00:56:53.000That it's going to be delicious, that the vindication will taste so much sweeter because we were right and they were wrong.
00:57:26.000You can find, obviously, on Infowars, there's a Jake Lloyd playlist.
00:57:30.000If you scroll down on the Alex Jones channel on YouTube, a place that I would definitely say go and subscribe to, go to subscribe to my YouTube channel.
00:58:33.000I got to get some kind of, you know, one of these days when I get a billionaire sponsor, when I get, you know, King Europa to give me his riches, when I get King Europa from White Wakanda to come down from his mighty throne and give me the wealth of the white race, I'm going to have, you won't believe the music, the graphics, the special effects.
00:59:07.000We've eliminated thoughts and traps and all the rest.
00:59:10.000But, you know, there's something to be said about the old times when we were doing it pen and paper.
00:59:15.000But we do have a breaking news update.
00:59:17.000You know, we should have some kind of like a globe spinning my head on a satellite, you know, doing some kind of gesture, gesticulating wildly as I do.
00:59:25.000Everyone's saying Kavanaugh is confirmed.
01:01:13.000Validating the 2000 presidential election results.
01:01:16.000As a lawyer in private practice, he chaired the Federalist Society's Religious Liberty Practice Group, so he's very strong on religious liberty.
01:02:41.000In Fogo de Chao versus DHS, October 21st, 2014, in a ruling, he wrote, Mere economic expediency, this is a beauty, mere economic expediency does not authorize an employer to displace American workers for foreign workers.
01:03:01.000It means that just because an employer can save a buck here or there, just because it might be better for the bottom line, that doesn't give them the right to replace American labor with immigrant labor.
01:03:12.000That's Kavanaugh, 2014, in Foga de Jau versus DHS.
01:03:17.000An American Meat Institute versus Department of Ag, short for Agriculture.
01:03:22.000We call it Department of Ag in the business.
01:03:25.000When I'm on the phone with all my White House friends, I said, hey, you get the memo from Ag today?
01:04:11.000This guy is rock effing, rock freaking solid on immigration law.
01:04:17.000And that's what we need because Donald Trump is going to try and revamp immigration law either through executive order or maybe we get something through the House, whatever.
01:04:27.000But we saw as in the travel ban, the three travel bans, we saw as in the DACA executive order.
01:04:34.000The circuit judges, the district judges are going to do everything in their power to obstruct.
01:04:38.000And That is a temporary setback, so long as you have justices at the highest level in the Supreme Court who will ultimately make the right decision, as they did with the travel ban.
01:04:50.000So, that we have a court that is now decidedly restrictionist, nativistic, perhaps, on immigration, this is revolutionary.
01:05:46.000And the only reason they said was if they supported overturning Roe v. Wade.
01:05:50.000And so actually, it works out kind of well because all the propaganda leading up to this announcement was that Kavanaugh is not the strong pick on pro life.
01:06:01.000Whether it's true or not, I think it's very dubious whether that's true or not.
01:06:05.000But the propaganda, the rhetoric of the establishment said Barrett's the one who's going to overturn Roe v. Wade.
01:06:12.000She's the one who's going to be strong on abortion.
01:06:14.000And therefore, she would be the one that might be boycotted by Collins and Murkowski.
01:06:18.000Kavanaugh, hey, maybe, maybe we're able to get through by the skin of our teeth.
01:06:23.000We invoke the nuclear option, we're able to get him through with a simple majority.
01:06:31.000The other trick, though, about Kavanaugh, I will say, is that he has been serving for a long time, and he's been involved in some very controversial partisan things.
01:06:40.000That's going to entail a lot of paperwork, going to have to look through a lot of emails, phone calls, documents in the confirmation hearing process.
01:07:29.000Ruth Bader, Ginsburg, and Breyer, who happen to be on the Judeo side of things, happen to be a little bit more Jewish.
01:07:36.000And we know that the Jewish people don't exactly care for Jesus Christ.
01:07:39.000We know that, well, the whole reason they still exist is because they rejected Jesus Christ.
01:07:45.000So our court still has a third of the people who reject Jesus Christ, who, you know, I don't want to be controversial here, but Christ said, My blood is on the hands of you and all your descendants forever.
01:09:04.000For some reason, even though it's not in the Constitution, Procedural matters that shouldn't require 60 votes now require 60 votes.
01:09:12.000Because Harry Reid invoked the nuclear option, which was a rule change made under Barack Obama, now Republicans can get through an appointee with only a simple majority as opposed to a supermajority.
01:09:24.000So instead of needing 60 votes to confirm President Trump's nominee, they only need a simple majority of 51 because they're able to suspend this rule that mandates that they need 60.
01:09:35.000It would be problematic if they needed 60 because they'd have to get nine Democrats on board or potentially more if all Republicans weren't on board.
01:09:42.000So now he goes through the confirmation hearing.
01:10:31.000The only one who's able to survive, you know, who we could say has a strong probability of surviving in the next three to seven years is Breyer, right?
01:12:14.000Hey, I like the guy that made the website.
01:12:18.000The trick is that there's a lot of moving pieces with the website.
01:12:21.000And look, if it's not working for you, you're probably not doing it right because more than 100 people have signed up and it's working just fine for them.
01:12:30.000So maybe you want to contact me, maybe you want to email me, figure it out before you go throwing around accusations.
01:12:36.000I like the comparison to women, except that I don't because I disagree with it.
01:13:40.000With bombs, so that the atmosphere grows, and you know, it's pretty crazy the kinds of things that we're able to accomplish off of pure vindication.
01:13:49.000You know, it's like our what's the source in Wakanda and Black Panther?
01:15:19.000When the government contracts infrastructure work, when they want to fix a road, The government doesn't buy up a bunch of trucks and buy up a bunch of cement, at least as I'm familiar with it.
01:15:31.000And you look at state government, you look at municipal government.
01:15:34.000The way it works is that they contract a private company, and the private company goes and they bid for the contract.
01:15:40.000They say, well, we could do it for this much or for that much.
01:15:42.000And you could say it's a corrupt process.
01:15:43.000You could say it's a crony process, et cetera.
01:15:46.000But to say that it's public ownership of the means of production is not true.
01:15:50.000The state does not, in fact, own the means of production.
01:16:13.000If the government owned all the concrete and owned all the trucks and owned all the truck making factories and all the concrete making factories, and it was illegal for anybody else to pave roads, then you might have a point.
01:16:29.000Did Maryland Governor candidate Rich Demonic Physiognomy Madalino ever make a public statement about the Annapolis Gazette shooting that he forzake a chance to promote his progressive priorities?
01:16:42.000I've been keeping up on him, but a very sick individual.
01:17:10.000Number two, it tells us physiognomy is real.
01:17:13.000They can not only predict that, they can predict criminal behaviors, who's more likely to commit crimes, who's more likely to do X, Y, and Z. Judging by facial characteristics, they can predict behavior.
01:17:29.000If you look like a creep, you're a creep.
01:17:32.000Those sins, those vices, evil, demonic possession, it takes a toll on the human form.
01:17:40.000And so that's why when you look at a person like me, very angular, good jawline, good brow ridge, good proportions, ratios, I'm a handsome guy, I know that I'm handsome.
01:17:50.000You know that I'm a good guy, you know that I'm a good person, you know you can trust me.
01:17:54.000You want to give me your money, you want to fill up the jar, you want to watch more America First content, you want to sit there all day and binge America First content because.
01:21:54.000Is that conducive to like a really hard guy making a decision about, you know, It's a really ugly situation, but some people have lower IQs than other people, and they'll never get to the same place as successful groups.
01:22:08.000You know, that's something that weighs on your soul.
01:22:11.000You're sitting around talking about friggin' video games.
01:24:16.000I think we, like, got into a comment fight, like, Like the summer before we even got into our freshman year on Facebook when we were all like picking our roommates.
01:25:33.000And now she wants my 2% African, right?
01:25:36.000She wants the jungle fever, maybe tone it down a little, incorporate a little bit more financial planning, maybe incorporate a little bit more low time preference, maybe incorporate a little bit more, you know.
01:25:50.000Anyway, so she goes and she sends me all these messages, and then, like, I kid you not, a week later, she's commenting, Oh, Nick was just DMing me.
01:30:28.000They could use a little cream, they could use maybe a little like a dipping sauce.
01:30:32.000Because, you know, the Cinnabon Delights at Taco Bell, they've got the filling and the cinnamon rolls generally, they've got the, you know, So it was a little dry.
01:30:42.000That's my only critique, but it was good.
01:30:44.000I would get them again and very cheap.
01:30:46.000David Andros says bring in based Italy.
01:30:50.000Salvini keeps turning away votes, even encouraging private gun ownership.