Anarchonomicon - Ep34 “On The Leafs” W⧸Dimes from Blood Sattelite

00:00:00.000 They will chain you, like Prometheus, to a rock, where the memory of your own greatness

00:00:15.080 will gnaw you.

00:00:29.080 The battle for the mind of North

00:00:31.080 America will be fought in

00:00:33.080 the video arena.

00:00:35.080 The video drone.

00:00:37.080 You look around, what do you see? Businessmen?

00:00:39.080 Teachers? Lawyers?

00:00:41.080 Carpenters? The very minds

00:00:43.080 of the people we are trying to save but until we do these people are still a part of that system

00:00:48.440 and that makes them our enemy no we're not doing that you're getting called a slur after all there

00:00:55.720 is nothing real outside our perception of reality is there you can see that can't you

00:01:03.700 tribal people uh one of their main uh kinds of sport is sort of butchering each other it's you

00:01:10.440 You know, it's okay to find a sport in tribal societies.

00:01:13.520 You, my children, are the water.

00:01:16.880 They will wash away all that has gone before.

00:01:21.880 The gleam in the eye of sex.

00:01:24.540 It's very simple.

00:01:26.220 The message is force is more effective than voting.

00:01:30.000 Elections change nothing.

00:01:31.640 But I had some ideas.

00:01:32.600 We got global and tribal.

00:01:34.120 We were going to become...

00:01:35.320 The closer we got together, the more you like each other.

00:01:37.480 Yeah.

00:01:38.180 There's no evidence of that in any situation.

00:01:40.180 that we've ever heard of.

00:01:42.300 Major Lennox answered with his life

00:01:44.140 as you should have done

00:01:45.220 if you had any sense of honor.

00:01:46.840 You have to understand

00:01:47.920 most of these people

00:01:49.200 are not ready to be unplugged.

00:01:51.820 And many of them are so inured,

00:01:53.440 so hopelessly dependent on the system

00:01:55.740 that they will fight to protect it.

00:01:58.740 He who saves a nation

00:02:00.880 violates no law.

00:02:06.040 All forms of violence

00:02:07.640 are a quest for identity.

00:02:09.100 When you live out on the frontier, you have no identity, you're a nobody, therefore you get very tough.

00:02:16.880 You have to prove that you are somebody, and so you become very violent.

00:02:22.040 I'm coming to kill you!

00:02:24.420 For greater safety, please avoid the English language.

00:02:30.800 Please do not translate this message.

00:02:34.700 And so identity is always accompanied by violence.

00:02:37.600 this seems paradoxical to you it works violence works therefore television is reality

00:02:46.980 and reality is less than television were you listening to me neo or were you looking at the

00:02:53.860 woman in the red dress it's just a grotesque post-modern psyop and anyone who's fallen for 0.76

00:02:58.560 this is brain damaged this like psychotic woman just started wrestling her cat in the middle of 1.00

00:03:04.860 Well, yeah, you got to keep it in. Like, to me, that fits the theme of your sub stack, like just a sudden bursts of, you know, werewolf shit.

00:03:17.920 Exactly, exactly. Anyway, I will get us started. Hello, hello, hello, glorious listeners.

00:03:25.800 Welcome to another exciting episode of the AnarchonomCon podcast. I am joined today by Dimes from Blood Satellite. Say hello.

00:03:34.860 hey man thank you so much for thank you so much for having me uh we've met can you believe that

00:03:43.180 four times part of me is like oh wow yeah and part of me is like only four four times it feels

00:03:53.900 like it feels like i've endured you so much longer than that but uh we every time we met

00:04:00.480 we've had such a cool time and you've always got like a cool shirt on or something and uh

00:04:07.140 yeah like i might have met you like you and john carter i think are tied

00:04:12.600 yeah john um we had we had john out to the anarchonomicon book club in uh in toronto we

00:04:24.500 had him reading uh reading aloud the million dialogues he was playing the millions and uh

00:04:32.120 an old academic friend of ours was playing the athenians uh so yeah so john was

00:04:39.860 john was protesting that uh that uh his people had honor and and would fight and would not submit to

00:04:48.120 slavery servitude and and uh it was quite dramatic john's entire people were wiped out

00:04:54.680 i learned too late that you even had a book club because i've been on your server for a long time

00:05:01.920 but i just don't go on discord i just don't spend any time on it and then i go into yours i'm like

00:05:07.580 man this is like a city in here there's like so much shit going on in here and you're having like

00:05:13.480 20 book clubs a month you got a full roster of things going on yeah oh it's it's ballooned um

00:05:23.420 at one point i looked in like one of the segments and like four women were having conversations

00:05:30.100 about their pregnancies oh yeah i i'm on baby number four oh congratulations i'm on baby number

00:05:35.860 five and wait wait this was happening what they always find each other don't they those sickos

00:05:42.840 all the pregnant women just 1.00

00:05:44.440 echolocate in whatever chat 1.00

00:05:46.960 you're in.

00:05:49.080 And all they do is talk about how

00:05:50.540 fucking happy and do you have any

00:05:52.840 tips? None of them have any tips

00:05:54.780 for each other, by the way. They were having it in the war

00:05:56.900 channel, too.

00:05:58.700 That was the thing. They were discussing their babies

00:06:00.800 in the war channel. Meanwhile, my poor

00:06:02.960 Octus are trying to discuss drums in

00:06:04.860 Ukraine.

00:06:06.720 This has to be a metaphor for something.

00:06:09.520 What, I don't know.

00:06:11.220 But we're trying to talk about

00:06:12.560 I talked about this war everyone forgot about

00:06:14.920 and there are these 1.00

00:06:16.280 ladies in here talking about 1.00

00:06:19.300 you know their hormones 1.00

00:06:21.520 this is probably

00:06:23.400 what's going on in Ukraine right now

00:06:24.620 talking about their successful

00:06:25.480 talking about how

00:06:28.220 someone successfully got autists to breed

00:06:31.180 a shining beacon

00:06:35.200 to everyone else there

00:06:36.380 no I was shocked

00:06:38.880 there was

00:06:40.980 a couple that came about

00:06:44.440 possibly because of my book club

00:06:46.560 possibly

00:06:47.040 ancillary to

00:06:49.340 are having a baby now

00:06:51.600 and it's like oh my god

00:06:54.260 I might have accidentally created life

00:06:56.480 I am

00:06:58.720 Herbert West reanimator

00:07:00.240 it's that easy

00:07:01.800 yeah yeah

00:07:03.520 this is the thing about creating

00:07:06.620 life like

00:07:07.440 anyone can fucking do it and this happens

00:07:10.500 by accident even sometimes you would be shocked no uh but this is why i wanted to have you on

00:07:18.640 because uh talk about pregnancy good idea so uh no uh because you are one of the great philosophers

00:07:30.360 of creating community and you've done it successfully uh of the times we met i think

00:07:37.500 like three of them were at events that you organize and somehow I did not get kicked out of

00:07:42.720 uh that that like you you're actually walking the walk of like getting people to together in like

00:07:51.880 what objectively should be one of the hardest regions to like actually dull communities which

00:07:59.160 is like Ontario, Ontario, Canada, Upper Canada you know the place where Global Home was started the

00:08:06.380 place where multiculturalism was a buzzword since like the 60s you know you uh you probably haven't

00:08:15.800 read it but my my fans out there will have read my latest essay on on uh the battle for the mind

00:08:24.500 of north america and psychological weapons testing and like let me just say i did read that um and

00:08:31.560 because it relates to stuff that we talked about in the past.

00:08:35.460 But I did read it, and it's very interesting.

00:08:37.820 It actually aligns with some of the other things that we talked about.

00:08:41.480 Sorry, continue.

00:08:43.800 Yes, McLuhan horror.

00:08:46.040 I always thought that you and Judas at Blood Satellite

00:08:50.820 are almost exactly the main character from Pontypool,

00:08:56.540 which is another one of the horror movies in the, like, weird psychological memetic warfare genre of Canadian horror,

00:09:07.560 which is, like, so weirdly specific, and yet there are so many films within that genre.

00:09:12.140 uh uh bonty pool is about a uh a cowboy uh shock right-wing cowboy shock jock uh out of um

00:09:23.780 out of eastern ontario who uh as he's on air a zombie outbreak is taking place as you're recording

00:09:34.460 And, uh...

00:10:04.460 we still do not have an official version of these events and it's very difficult at this

00:10:14.420 moment to get a fix on what has happened they cut into our signal

00:10:24.700 Ken

00:10:28.620 Their eyes

00:10:31.280 He's looking at me

00:10:32.900 For your safety

00:10:37.280 Please avoid contact with family members

00:10:42.860 And restrain from the following

00:10:45.440 All terms of endearment

00:10:48.800 For greater safety

00:10:54.700 Do not translate this message.

00:10:58.660 Do not translate.

00:11:01.100 And but the thing is, what they slowly realize is, is the zombie virus, it's not a biological virus.

00:11:11.240 It's a language virus.

00:11:12.520 It infects your brain through sound.

00:11:15.660 And what they realize slowly is they've been broadcasting all day and they've been taking in radio signals all day.

00:11:23.100 and they've been like interviewing people all day

00:11:25.060 and they have no idea if they are or aren't infected

00:11:28.300 with this mimetic virus that occupies like certain words

00:11:33.360 and so twisty and paranoid.

00:11:36.660 I think I saw this.

00:11:37.980 Exactly your style.

00:11:39.660 Like I think I'm crazy about Canadian films,

00:11:43.480 but also Canadian horror films.

00:11:45.440 I'm just reading it right now.

00:11:46.940 I'm like, I swear to God, I've seen this before,

00:11:49.140 but a long, long time ago.

00:11:50.700 if you watch it you'll feel like wow they made a movie about me but uh but yes so

00:11:59.700 so part of the reason i want to have you on specifically is because as readers of that

00:12:06.160 article and my listeners specifically will probably attest to this and probably it's

00:12:13.720 very apparent to just like americans and everyone else uh of all the places that you'd think to

00:12:20.900 like build a nation or build a community or build a culture or reinvigorate localism

00:12:27.720 one would naively think that ontario canada is the worst possible place to do it because this

00:12:39.100 is where you know you know the identity was like very unstable in canada even even before glomo

00:12:47.060 hobo took over and then canada was the first place to become a multicultural glomo hobo

00:12:52.400 you know nation of immigrant cesspool you know even before these were all buzzwords in america

00:12:58.720 uh the statue of multiculturalism the monument of multiculturalism is outside unions union station

00:13:07.900 in toronto and it's about like two stories tall and and it was made in 1985 1985 they're making

00:13:17.440 statues to multiculturalism and the motto of the city of toronto the official uh city of toronto

00:13:24.820 right on its coat of arms for the amalgamation of toronto in 1988 it is diversity our strength

00:13:34.320 uh the the occupying motto of of the entire homogenized um global homo ecosystem is

00:13:47.060 the motto of the city of toronto space aliens would think that toronto had conquered the world

00:13:52.820 which sort of but like the real story is that toronto was like the weapons testing center for

00:14:00.000 all these like culture destroying institutions so yeah the history of the relationship between

00:14:09.120 canada and america when it comes to psychological warfare development is really interesting

00:14:15.660 because just on that topic specifically um canada to my mind is always punched above its weight

00:14:24.120 when it comes to a lot of uh academic fields and in industry and tech development specifically

00:14:29.840 And this isn't a, you know, I hate using the word conspiracy theory because that's kind of a pejorative for people who just like to read a lot.

00:14:40.200 But Canada, it's fairly established that Canada has had a very, very close relationship with the American intelligence apparatus and that America has partnered with leading universities to like test out psychological development, just test things out.

00:14:57.260 I believe MKUltra was developed in a partnership with Canadian universities, Canadian scientists.

00:15:04.320 And there's always been an exchange.

00:15:08.700 I don't even want to call it an exchange because really it's just sort of a unidirectional flow of influence from America.

00:15:16.780 And just at the outset, I would say that, you know, unlike someone who...

00:15:20.640 I would argue that it's not unidirectional.

00:15:23.760 uh if you like actually look at the like deep history uh the defining like canadian victory

00:15:32.360 in war of 1812 was a psychological victory uh the capture at fort detroit was a smaller force

00:15:40.640 taking a fortified position from a larger force through trickery and deception and convincing

00:15:47.800 the American General Hall that he was, like, horribly outnumbered when he wasn't. But

00:15:54.320 General Brock, like, sent letters to him saying, oh, I've got these 5,000 Indians under my control

00:16:01.960 and they're crazy and the second battle starts I won't be able to control them and they'll kill

00:16:07.360 everyone in the fort. You have to surrender, sir, please, for the sake of humanity. And of course

00:16:12.480 he had like 500 and general hall had 2500 but uh if you like when you look at the kind of british

00:16:22.560 versus american colonial history and like uh great game empire stuff like this psychological back and

00:16:30.700 forth is is really a staple of the entire relationship like uh right down to it's very

00:16:39.140 possible that abraham lincoln was assassinated because of like a british intelligence coup

00:16:46.960 in the city of montreal when uh john wilkes booth went there to uh make contact with like

00:16:53.900 confederate operatives like i've never heard that before but i like it i and just just on its face

00:17:02.280 i like the story that canada assassinated lincoln and regardless of what you say i'm just gonna go

00:17:08.840 with that but continue well canada also started the civil war uh so so tom brown's raid on harper's

00:17:19.020 ferry was organized in chatham ontario uh you can actually go there today uh south of london

00:17:26.080 and see uncle tom's cabin it's like wait that was a fictional character yes it was a fictional

00:17:31.560 character based on a real guy who like harry beecher strode said was real guy who was like

00:17:37.160 one of the chief organizers of the underground railroad uh and like in real life he didn't die

00:17:44.740 like martyred to to save like black slaves he escaped and became like this head organizer but

00:17:52.520 uh basically this town south of london ontario uh was a hotbed of like black and abolitionist

00:18:00.680 terrorists throughout like throughout the 1840s 1850s and 1860s and uh and like was this like

00:18:10.020 free black terrorist town that like as soon as the civil war ended all of them left because

00:18:16.920 you know black people do not like living in snowy Canada without central central heating

00:18:24.320 but uh but this like back and forth uh america had strikes back as well like the fenian raid is

00:18:34.120 are kind of the start of the canadian military uh the great canadian general william otter

00:18:39.340 who was like a general who built the canadian army and was like actually general to 1920 he

00:18:45.040 was a teenager who participated in the defense of the fenian raids uh that was like uh irish

00:18:52.160 terrorists who had been in the union army during the american civil war like organizing secret

00:18:57.460 terrorist leagues to try and like capture canada and use it as a bargaining chip for irish

00:19:02.640 independence like uh there's there's this long history back and forth of like these espionage

00:19:10.340 wars uh throughout the 19th and early 20th century now let me just say this i have a lot of

00:19:18.580 people in my community a lot of very good friends who go very deep into canadian history

00:19:23.580 and i go a little deep but not as much as others so they might be upset at me for just

00:19:31.900 going along with this but i want to tell you right now i'm rubber stamping this i just like

00:19:37.360 what i'm hearing and i buy it i don't i don't haven't read the books i haven't read any other

00:19:41.740 counter theories people can get mad at me later but this sounds good i'm going with this yeah

00:19:47.760 So this is, so, like, this cultural, this espionage cultural battle has, like, is building throughout, like, the 19th, early 20th century, then Suez happens.

00:20:05.380 and if you know anything about like canadian culture if you buy any of the old canadian books

00:20:11.080 from like before 1950 ish canada has this insane bizarre culture that like most canadians today

00:20:19.480 like would not recognize or like they'll only recognize it from like the canadian coat of arms

00:20:25.180 and maybe like a few like architectural objects that like the government actually tried to like

00:20:31.060 destroy all these gorgeous old buildings but uh like canada before 1950 um it it looks like

00:20:41.140 katia from 40k it is this like bizarre hyper militarized like more british than british like

00:20:48.280 like sci-fi civilization parody of like a british imperial colony like um like it's almost impossible

00:20:58.480 to overstate just like how much this looks like a weird totalitarian society that's like

00:21:03.800 not fascism and not communism but a weird third thing that's uh entirely built up to be like

00:21:13.220 like all is the equivalent of u.s nationalism but but not nationalism because they aren't a

00:21:20.760 democracy they're a dominion and they're hyper patriotic and like this frontier patriotism

00:21:28.460 for an empire and and this culture um the artifacts like you see photos of like

00:21:37.800 of like empire day in the schools of ontario or like uh or like the military reviews

00:21:44.100 for uh queen victoria's birthday or dominion day and they look like um

00:21:50.860 they look like like this bizarre blend of like something from like the napoleonic wars and like

00:22:00.400 1920s germany and and the you know union jack like hang from absolutely everything and all these

00:22:10.760 bizarre like colonial colonial flags uh if you see the film the devil's brigade uh that depicts

00:22:18.320 like this massive culture clash between american frontiersmen and a canadian highland regiment

00:22:25.880 they're like merging to become this joined to the first special forces unit the devil's brigade

00:22:30.900 and it depicts like canadians and americans having this massive culture clash and the

00:22:38.740 canadian culture that they depict is like it's exactly this culture which is completely alien

00:22:46.660 to anything you see in canon canon nowadays but like that was canadian culture and it was

00:22:53.160 consciously like purposely destroyed by uh pierre trudeau and like wider the wider american empire

00:23:01.180 immediately after the suez crisis because of course the entire point of this culture

00:23:05.980 was to be a check in the hedge against against america like the entire point of it was if the

00:23:14.060 british empire in america ever go to war canada is going to be the front line and we need it told

00:23:18.160 to hold as long as possible like like canada was conceived as cadia from 40k like uh it was just

00:23:26.860 oh this is the place that's going to die if like these two empires go ever going to war and it has

00:23:33.540 to be as militarized as possible it's funny you say that it reminds me of the speech that was

00:23:39.200 delivered at our first event by willhelm apologist i'm not sure if you're aware of him but uh he's

00:23:47.100 very much in line with a lot of what you're saying i'm not sure if you two have ever met

00:23:52.040 or agree or disagree oh he was at the he he's turned out to book club once or twice uh yeah

00:23:58.280 is an insane follow on you youtube uh it's very insane because you meet him and he's exactly the

00:24:06.700 character he plays on youtube which is very strange because his style on youtube is all these

00:24:11.300 aggressive aggressive insane like fast edits since like how could someone be like that in person but

00:24:17.880 he does it in person yeah he's not playing a character either like anything he says in his

00:24:23.140 videos you see him and he's he's just like that and the speech he gave um at that point i had not

00:24:29.600 been exposed to him so i didn't know if he was being sarcastic or anything but i remember that

00:24:35.440 he ended his speech and he's very,

00:24:38.480 he brought a bunch of people.

00:24:39.760 People show up for Will and Apologist.

00:24:42.060 And he ended it by saying that Canada should wage a suicidal war against

00:24:48.000 America.

00:24:49.220 And everyone was clapping.

00:24:51.180 Right.

00:24:51.720 And I'm just like,

00:24:52.500 Oh,

00:24:52.700 what?

00:24:53.140 I don't know what this is.

00:24:54.680 Is that a joke?

00:24:55.540 No,

00:24:55.860 he's serious.

00:24:56.340 Like awesome.

00:24:58.040 But I just,

00:24:58.800 I was never in tune with that.

00:25:00.480 Canadian culture before 1950.

00:25:02.180 And that's like,

00:25:02.940 and that's the point that,

00:25:03.900 that he was drawing like some people will say that now just to be outlandish but he's got

00:25:10.720 just like you to have a read of the history and that's something that we've been seeing in this

00:25:16.500 political milieu in what you might term Canadian nationalism for the past few years which is

00:25:22.740 trying to negotiate how anti-American Canadian nationalism should be and for my part I've always

00:25:30.140 been trying to mediate that but you know there's very well-informed cases and arguments made by

00:25:37.780 some people i respect very greatly then people who maybe they don't want to march on america

00:25:43.480 tomorrow but i don't think they know how to define canada if it's not an opposition to america

00:25:50.900 and there's actually a really solid case for why that needs to be the case basically i i had a weird

00:25:58.940 experience because as a kid i always thought i was weirdly pro-american uh because like i grew up

00:26:05.380 with all this american media i was like an american libertarian uh no your soul was my

00:26:11.460 favorite franchise and then i slowly realized that i had a relationship with like american

00:26:16.640 libertarianism completely different from every single american libertarian that that the american

00:26:22.380 libertarians are like yeah the government's the problem i'm like yeah yeah exactly we need to get

00:26:28.700 rid of the american government and they're like what yeah yeah we washington dc needs to burn

00:26:36.100 the entirety of washington dc needs to be like destroyed and turned into a dump for radioactive

00:26:41.560 waste so that there can be no unified american american nation ever again it can split up into

00:26:48.120 a bunch of free you know states like it was supposed to be like the founders of mission and

00:26:52.540 to my mind this all just logically follow this was like well this is what libertarians building

00:26:58.420 to right and they all looked at me in horror you know and and then i slowly realized that like oh

00:27:04.720 american libertarians you know they don't see the star-spangled banner and think oh yes the

00:27:12.100 oppressor oh yes the enemy well and you know what the funny thing is they might if you if you made

00:27:18.380 it clear that you were canadian there's something that happens with even leftist radicals left black 1.00

00:27:27.260 leftist radical lesbians in america can hate everything about america but the moment a 0.98

00:27:33.560 european opens their mouth is critical about america they're just these flag-waving patriots

00:27:39.060 like americans really really don't like it when outsiders criticize america so if you made it

00:27:43.960 clear that you just were not american like yeah they're gonna fucking it's a kid rock their kid

00:27:50.260 rock until you go away very much very much so they have this deep sentimentality for uh

00:27:58.300 for that profoundly artificial identity that conquered all of them by force

00:28:05.100 if you're a japanese person you can't say word one against america or you're gonna have like

00:28:10.180 50 000 people within a minute saying how you deserved nuclear annihilation like and you're

00:28:16.360 talking to fucking liberals liberal conservative leftist doesn't fucking matter if you have a

00:28:21.820 negative opinion and you're japanese they'll say yeah i'm glad your family died in nuclear hellfire

00:28:26.560 this is really the reason why america can never annex canada it's not it's not that like oh they

00:28:34.240 couldn't take us in a fight they 100 could like uh like the toughest canadians probably wouldn't

00:28:39.520 even fight that fight because like no no way i'm not fighting for mark carney but uh america could

00:28:46.040 not absorb that that level of like misanthropy and like and like uh like profound pessimism

00:28:55.120 and like the intense canadian tragic disappointed outlook on life is like kryptonite to the the

00:29:03.460 american psyche to american culture in a way uh i used to think there was like really no difference

00:29:10.820 between canadian and american culture and then like i interacted with americans in business

00:29:16.240 like like for work and i'm like oh wow you guys are profoundly different like uh

00:29:22.200 like uh the difference between can and america uh for for those of you at home is that americans

00:29:29.480 left europe seeking a a better future in like a promised land and they landed in america they

00:29:37.460 actually landed in a promised land like a new eden that was like ripe with opportunity and yes there

00:29:43.500 were indians and stuff but like you know they they were good fight but like the exact right amount of

00:29:49.780 good fight to like keep you sharp you know it was the perfect perfect place to land perfect

00:29:56.520 opportunity you know everything it was promised to be america the beautiful canadian culture is

00:30:03.120 entirely, is entirely founded by people who did not want to come to Canada, who were exiled

00:30:10.200 from America, or who decide to come to Canada on the same, like, journey of opportunity and

00:30:18.360 discovery, only to discover that they were defrauded, that it was a trick.

00:30:23.840 Yeah, this was the case of Quebec as well.

00:30:26.360 And if you listen to some of the early Quebec pioneers and settlers, it's a different aspect

00:30:33.120 Attitude and sorry, I don't want to interrupt you there, but that that is the case and when just so people have historical context when we talk about

00:30:41.340 pioneers and settlers we're really talking about Upper Canada and Lower Canada and so that's why so much of

00:30:47.700 Canadian culture in my view extends from this region

00:30:51.720 And the rest of Canada has a big problem with that and of course the rest of Canada has legitimate

00:30:56.880 grievances with the center power in Canada and the Laurentian elite and all that stuff people are probably familiar with and

00:31:03.120 But, like, there really is no story of Canada that doesn't start with Ontario and Quebec, unfortunately, upper Canada and lower Canada.

00:31:12.460 And you make a point, like, this is the argument made by a lot of people in our space now, but it was also made by various Canadian, what you might term Canadian nationalist writers in the past, like the author of Freedom Wears a Crown, I forget the name of that.

00:31:30.720 There's a lot of this really interesting Canadian nationalist literature that just passed into obscurity and isn't as popular as a lot of the American published works.

00:31:41.460 But the case was made that Canada was fundamentally illiberal.

00:31:46.120 And I tend to agree with that, which is one of the reasons.

00:31:49.540 And Canada was really not set up, but it focused more on agriculture in terms of industrial development, which to me read more like they were focused on like a martial class.

00:32:02.580 And you had mentioned the militarization or the military character of Ontario up until a certain point.

00:32:10.220 And I think, you know, America, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness in Canada is peace, order and good government.

00:32:17.040 These are fundamentally different ways to conceptualize one's relationship with the state.

00:32:23.200 And so I honestly think that in Canada, it's spent most of its existence trying to create like a martial class, like a different relationship with the military and also the role of what the citizen should be doing, which is more like productive labor and stuff.

00:32:37.340 to the point that it lost like 90% of its entrepreneurs.

00:32:42.700 There's been a massive brain drain in Canada's south

00:32:45.900 towards, you know, lately Silicon Valley,

00:32:49.780 but before that, any of the industrious areas,

00:32:53.500 New York, LA, wherever it might be.

00:32:56.880 And so I'd say that that persists to this day.

00:33:00.260 Like I said, Canada punches above its weight technologically,

00:33:03.680 but its ambitions are different

00:33:06.540 and its attitude is different from the very inception i hope that uh i didn't take you too

00:33:12.160 much on a tangent there oh no that is is excellent uh i i was gonna say that uh canada

00:33:22.820 even it's like martial culture is really really weird like uh like in a lot of ways can it like

00:33:31.060 uh the 19th to 20th century like as recently as like the 2000s military culture in canada

00:33:38.960 was way way way more like uh more like america was in like 1776 than uh america has been in

00:33:50.160 150 years like uh like america had reoriented entirely around like conscript armies like

00:34:00.160 during the civil war whereas uh canada had this like intensive militia culture which like

00:34:06.920 still you can see on the fringes and like a lot of their regiments and in canada um uh they

00:34:15.140 the attachment to the community has kind of been purposely broken by the liberals since the 90s

00:34:21.200 But, like, up until then, and, like, still sort of to this day, Canada had this entire military base around, like, reservists and, like, part-time soldiers.

00:34:39.840 Canada's greatest general, Arthur Curry, started off as a private in, like, a militia regiment, I want to say during the 1890s.

00:34:50.660 And, like, he was a school teacher, and he rose to be Canada's greatest general.

00:34:56.800 If you're a fan of Starship Turpers, they train at Arthur Curry, Camp Arthur Curry is where they complete the training.

00:35:06.060 That's where RICO ghosts drop out of the mobile infantry, but then doesn't because war, they're going to war.

00:35:13.160 That's all happening at Camp Arthur, Arthur Curry, because Heinlein admired a ton of stuff about Curry, which a lot of people have.

00:35:26.480 But that, like, is a very standard rare path for, like, Canada's great soldiers.

00:35:32.260 Like compared to the U.S. where it's all is very much West Point and these conscript armies, Canada had a fully volunteer military laid into both world wars.

00:35:47.300 Conscription was adopted and barely affected either war.

00:35:53.320 It was, it's like this culture that the official Canadian history of World War, Canadian military history of World War II opens that the Canadians have often been a warlike people, but they've never been a military people.

00:36:12.100 that uh that the entire idea of an organized military is like actually kind of awkward within

00:36:20.820 was in canada just because like the conditions already made people so warlike and and the

00:36:28.520 necessities of frontier life like demanded you organize around a militia anyway because so much

00:36:33.560 bloody work has to go into maintaining a like 19th century uh canadian farm uh homestead

00:36:41.480 And you know what, outside of major urban centers in Canada, this will sound like a bit of a stretch, but not much has changed.

00:36:49.480 Like in Ontario, where I live, the vast majority of firehouses are volunteer firehouses.

00:36:56.440 The central state apparatus doesn't have the greatest ability to project power internally.

00:37:04.920 For a lot of Canadians right now, especially the more north you get, you're on your own.

00:37:09.680 like there's you got a sheriff and or you have like the opp the ontario provincial police just

00:37:15.580 driving up and down highways but it's like you're rubbing two sticks together and trying to make it

00:37:20.780 work um the population's way smaller it's way more thinly spread out there's there's just not

00:37:26.580 a lot in between these like massive dark haunted forests that i personally love and i can't i can't

00:37:34.660 tell you what it's like in saskatchewan i can't tell you what it's like in manitoba so i'm just

00:37:39.220 speaking from from that experience but so that this is what a lot of not all but some europeans

00:37:45.740 find interesting about canada because they just buy the propaganda of the recent propaganda of

00:37:53.080 it being the most multicultural and gayest place on earth but they are surprised to learn that

00:37:59.520 canada is awash with guns there's a huge gun culture in canada there's lots and lots of them

00:38:05.520 and lots of gun ranges compared to the population size

00:38:09.840 and huge hunting culture up here

00:38:13.920 and a great interest in militias

00:38:18.780 and forming these sorts of groups.

00:38:21.480 You know, they might say that's a consequence

00:38:23.720 of its proximity to America,

00:38:25.920 but I think you've made a great argument

00:38:27.660 that that's not the case at all.

00:38:30.440 Yeah, so this is peace order and good government,

00:38:34.900 the canadian motto is actually there there's any there's an irony to it that i didn't realize and

00:38:43.240 most people don't don't realize that that motto became the motto immediately after the upper

00:38:48.400 candor rebellion of 1837 which uh was the backwoodsman rebellion which is not supposed to

00:38:55.200 be possible in the 19th century like the 19th century you're supposed to have these proletarian

00:38:59.600 urban rebellions you know uh you know riots in the streets storming the vast deal that type of stuff

00:39:06.300 but but the upper canada rebellion was this backwoodsman rebellion uh led by all these like

00:39:13.460 like uh municipal authorities attached to the upper canada company and other like uh

00:39:23.640 crown corporations that were like dividing up the land so like these were actually like

00:39:28.260 guys wielding axes in like the extreme backwoods who managed to organize this rebellion

00:39:35.040 because they are traveling so much on foot they're actually able to deliver

00:39:39.380 messages and like hold meetings and like organize it uh william mckenzie held like 200 meetings

00:39:45.580 in like four months which is almost logistically impossible bowling yet he did it and they managed

00:39:53.640 to, like, actually beat the central government to rallying troops, despite the fact that

00:40:00.680 they were spread out over such a vast area and, like, had to travel by foot and, like,

00:40:05.300 could only deliver messages via runner.

00:40:08.120 Like, they managed to win the foot race to mobilize and then hesitated and squandered

00:40:16.160 it but uh but the canadian motto peace order and good government is like there's a quiet irony to

00:40:26.020 it that uh you know life liberty and the pursuit of happiness it all builds on with one other peace

00:40:32.320 order and good government uh it's kind of there's some oars in there that implied they're conditional

00:40:39.740 on each other you know that it that you have to have all three or else or else the others are

00:40:46.340 void is implicit in the motto that uh that like is very would be very apparent in the 19th century

00:40:56.200 when every like politician and like major fair is in some way like related to or descended from

00:41:03.620 the rebels of 1837 but is like has been purposely obscured by uh the post trudeau trudeau i do i

00:41:13.080 like that take where peace or in good government every other one's contingent on every other one

00:41:18.460 which is that you know if you don't have one then you don't have the other two yes good government

00:41:23.840 peace and order like that i've never heard it explained like that that's i like that yeah

00:41:28.100 because that's a model that's adopted by by like parliaments that have active former rebels in them

00:41:37.540 like all the rebels of 1837 were pardoned and in the canadian government uh a bunch of them were

00:41:44.200 transported to uh tasmania off australia and like survived their years and like brutal um

00:41:53.220 brutal appeal servitude them were pardoned then paid their own way back like circumnavigated the

00:42:00.280 globe as like prisoners and uh australia has a lot of myth making about that they're very tax the

00:42:06.060 idea of that no no no we weren't cutthroats and and prostitutes from the streets of london we

00:42:10.680 are political dissenters from canada canada you can see why that's an appealing national myth to

00:42:15.980 australia and and there were like five or six that stay in australia but a huge percentage of them

00:42:22.440 that like didn't die did come back make it all the way back which is insane to me

00:42:28.960 but uh but yeah so canadian culture like uh there's a lot of those pessimistic ironies

00:42:38.020 in it that uh that uh it's easy to gloss over obscure especially with like the maple beaver

00:42:47.800 multiculturalism nonsense of the of the like post Trudeau post Pearson conception of the country

00:42:56.880 yeah and I read that completely and that was what I was trying to leverage this is not an

00:43:05.780 intentional segue this is just related do the segue man do the segue chill your stuff that's

00:43:11.380 why you're here this is what inspired the second of the long-form videos that i did i i was taken

00:43:18.180 to calling it a short documentary just because we invested quite a bit of money in producing it

00:43:23.280 uh the sequel to the previous uh paving over the public but i was trying to tap into that because

00:43:29.600 you know this is something that's being articulated more and more in our space like

00:43:34.160 who are the canadian people what what makes them distinct not only contrasted against the american

00:43:39.700 but also on the global stage and trying to establish this in a way that hasn't really

00:43:45.600 been done in my lifetime. And it's funny you mentioned the war-like nature of Canadians

00:43:53.300 because I remember growing up and I'm, you know, I'm getting up, I'm in my late thirties right now.

00:43:59.420 So maybe my experience in school is different than younger people's in Canadian schools,

00:44:03.020 but we were very

00:44:05.980 prideful of

00:44:07.780 Canadian service in World War I

00:44:10.280 World War II and elsewhere

00:44:11.520 there was

00:44:13.140 I don't want to say that

00:44:15.860 what I want to say is that there's

00:44:18.000 sort of like an underlying bloodthirst

00:44:19.940 to the Canadian people

00:44:20.860 and I do believe that's the case

00:44:23.900 maybe I try and find a better way to phrase it

00:44:25.780 but there's something

00:44:27.240 in the guts of the

00:44:29.700 average Canadian and I'm talking about

00:44:31.680 a heritage Canadian, a legacy Canadian,

00:44:33.880 people who can trace their

00:44:35.160 roots back many, many generations.

00:44:38.960 You listeners

00:44:39.820 at home, look up a photo

00:44:42.060 of Tim Horne,

00:44:43.640 just the donut shop fella.

00:44:45.660 Just look at it.

00:44:47.080 Look at his face and tell me he doesn't look like

00:44:49.940 a violent

00:44:50.920 Cro-Magnon who's going to

00:44:53.580 crush your skull. Yes, he's

00:44:55.620 smiling and offering you donuts or

00:44:57.580 playing hockey, but

00:44:59.100 he looks like a stone-cold killer.

00:45:01.520 And that's like the most Canadian face that has ever existed.

00:45:04.720 And I know that a lot of, when speaking of Sir John A. Macdonald, I know so many of the American politicians and presidents of that era, especially during the founding of any country, they all tend to be cool, violent alcoholics.

00:45:19.900 But Sir John A. Macdonald seemed like a cool, violent alcoholic amongst cool, violent alcoholics, right?

00:45:26.800 And that was a very Canadian way to run the country.

00:45:30.620 and I took great inspiration from that

00:45:32.940 the more I learned about him

00:45:34.440 he was the lawyer for the upper canon

00:45:36.900 rebels he was the when he was like

00:45:38.700 in his 20s that was like how he got

00:45:40.900 onto the scene of

00:45:42.900 law kind of like John

00:45:44.860 Adams and the

00:45:46.600 the Boston Massacre

00:45:48.600 although

00:45:49.080 whereas John Adams like

00:45:52.640 moved far away from the Redcoats

00:45:54.980 and

00:45:55.420 McDonald there's always

00:45:58.960 something of the rebel's lawyer to him yeah and um i i'm always interested in helping canadians

00:46:07.000 rediscover that aspect of them that's been so buried in our you know modern myth making about

00:46:14.580 what canada is supposed to represent and again even going back to nationalist or anglo writers

00:46:21.640 of the early 20th century they're already you know this is what george graham was saying he was

00:46:25.780 already signaling the death of canada but uh i do think there's a spirit there there's a spirit

00:46:31.740 that was never captured or addressed in my lifetime and it is now and there's so many

00:46:38.340 writers such as yourself such as you know i'm thinking of ferryman's toll i'm thinking of

00:46:43.020 fortisax i'm thinking of all these other guys i know black horse i'm just to name a few

00:46:47.440 john carter's into the stuff um about trying to identify that that that marshall nature in the

00:46:54.520 canadian identity in in a way that's and bringing out the bring out these old books bring out all

00:47:02.180 these old movies you mentioning um the devil's brigade like how many people have fucking heard

00:47:06.780 of that no one had no you're explaining how cool and savage a canadian is and that falls on

00:47:14.520 astonished ears these days because people have been so propagandized into what the canadian is

00:47:19.540 so that's why i was like an american movie like that was that was how like americans conceived

00:47:25.640 of canadians back in the day yeah and and that and that was what came on like the 80s the 70s i

00:47:32.180 think um i'll look it up yeah look at i thought i had it here that was what am i looking at you

00:47:40.840 went 1968 so in in a way i'm right in a more accurate way i was wrong but 1968

00:47:48.720 there's some respect there

00:47:51.500 but I wanted to tap into

00:47:53.680 this latent

00:47:55.560 pioneer martial

00:47:57.640 spirit in the Canadian

00:47:59.400 you know if we're being realistic

00:48:01.620 white Canadian if we're being more realistic

00:48:03.740 white Canadian male and this is

00:48:05.660 something you see echoed in

00:48:07.440 organizations such as the Dominion Society

00:48:10.080 and Second Sons

00:48:11.400 and many others throughout Canada

00:48:13.620 many different names but just trying

00:48:15.600 in various ways

00:48:16.980 to reignite that not not just and i i'd say it goes deeper than nationalism and this is something

00:48:23.780 we were discussing beforehand about you know we use the term nationalism and canadian nationalism

00:48:31.020 because people just intuit what that means you don't need to teach them a bunch of new words but

00:48:36.080 and this is what i was getting to in the film what we're what we're engaged in is defining

00:48:41.900 something deeper like what is the canadian and your speech that you delivered at the april event

00:48:48.720 i believe i didn't get to hear much of any speech because i was running around and fucking putting

00:48:53.380 out fires but i was aware of what your speech was mostly about which was sort of like this more

00:48:59.140 regional nationalism like you need the like an interior nationalism similar to what alberta is

00:49:05.860 doing with albertan nationalism because you know a controversial opinion that i have even in this

00:49:11.900 space is that canada is not a nation in the true sense like in the technical definition of what a

00:49:18.200 nation is which is a it's objectively not like uh yeah like uh even right down to like the question

00:49:26.660 of genetic stocks like uh like america this alvin seed uh this is like almost not controversial at

00:49:34.340 this point america its founding stock was about like four or five different nations that like

00:49:40.500 their founding stock all came from different segments of the u of the british so like the

00:49:47.220 ultra scots became like the borders the uh the appalachians uh the then the uh wessex westerners

00:49:57.120 east north of London, they became the Puritans, the Cavaliers were from an entirely different

00:50:06.840 region, and then the Quakers were from another region of England, kind of bordering Wales.

00:50:12.300 And this genealogy in Albion Seed, the author follows this, is like, oh yes, this is very

00:50:22.240 apparently uh how the culture has divided and change it change and canada it's even more

00:50:32.460 apparent that americans are like oh yeah we do have a different culture you know cavaliers

00:50:37.300 in the american south are completely different from like new england puritans it's like that's

00:50:42.620 like a very regionally close division where it's like uh the quebec law fortesax is an entire thing

00:50:50.040 on this that they're they're like actually actually normans that were like uh this blend

00:50:56.660 of french and like like uh and like old and like viking stock like uh the norsemen yeah who sell

00:51:05.020 norm normie and like that point is i just want to say that a lot of because i we covered albi

00:51:11.400 and see on the show and that featured pretty prominently in this video and i was covering on

00:51:17.400 my show do you even read which i host with my host the prudentialist covered a book called

00:51:23.020 white shift um and it was kind of explaining the history of how the wasp like white anglo-saxon

00:51:29.900 prostitutes became the archetype of you know the american white and so a lot of those four

00:51:36.560 after it was kind of they didn't all overlap but where they did overlap it was kind of there was

00:51:41.260 an american archetype that was elected because white anglo-saxon protestant is kind of a

00:51:47.580 coalescing of many of those different strands but we actually don't have that in canada at all

00:51:52.680 yeah we have functions more like we were settled by the scots uh like ontario was very much settled

00:52:00.940 by the scots with like a bunch of with a bunch of dutch like uh actually the dutch of new york

00:52:07.620 the new amsterdam dutch a huge amount of the war like ethnically cleansed into canada uh tiger

00:52:14.640 dunlop writes about this in recollections of the war of 1812 that he's encountering these people

00:52:19.180 who like 30 years later still are like genociling mad at the americans because they they were

00:52:26.540 ethnically cleansed from upstate new york but uh but like canada ontario is was like largely settled

00:52:34.720 by the Dutch and the Scots, and a few other, obviously a few others mixed in, but those

00:52:45.000 were like the dominant cultures.

00:52:46.420 Canada is like one of the only places in the world that has highland regiments.

00:52:51.040 This is like a huge part of Canadian culture, and like does not overlap much if at all,

00:52:59.680 all with the U.S., and then as soon as you get to the prairies, things get very, very

00:53:04.700 weird because it was sold by like lots of lots of germans like obviously settled in ontario and

00:53:12.660 like the wider u.s midwest but as soon as you get to um the prairies all suddenly you have

00:53:18.100 tons of like ukrainians uh germans as well still a few more scots but tons of like odd like and

00:53:25.700 mixed uh eastern european varieties that form their own yeah manitoba is big for that from what

00:53:32.880 i understand a lot of ukrainians went to manitoba yeah um uh the film the searchers actually like

00:53:40.360 kind of captures this because uh there's a lot of overlap between the people who settled texas

00:53:46.000 like uh the frontier of texas and the people who settled uh in like manitoba and the uh

00:53:53.100 and the canadian great great plains that it was the same wave of immigration so if you think of

00:53:58.480 like the family from the searchers who like have these dick like dutch accents and stuff and like

00:54:04.300 uh are almost are like from like a weird part of like the austro-russian prussian empire

00:54:11.880 like the intersection of those like that that's who settled uh large segments of the

00:54:20.520 of the canadian prairies it's yeah kind of you reverse the map you get the settlement map

00:54:27.840 if you reverse the map of europe you get the settlement map of north america

00:54:31.520 i know as you get further as you get closer to the pacific you get closer to like like actual

00:54:39.040 russians settling there like azerbaijanis yeah and i know there's this image that goes around of

00:54:45.960 the different eras of canadian immigration and that the founding stock you gotta go back to like

00:54:51.380 1600s and then but before all these successive waves of even european immigration which are not

00:54:59.280 even terribly popular at the time but i had made the case that if you look at just functionally

00:55:07.560 the canadian government operates more like an empire and you don't need to be a global empire

00:55:13.140 to be an empire i was talking more structurally in the sense that it's a very robust state apparatus

00:55:19.760 that is trying desperately to contain these interior nations.

00:55:25.320 And that's its main job.

00:55:26.700 Its main job is to try and keep these various provinces from separating,

00:55:31.220 keep Quebec at bay, trying.

00:55:33.460 It's not even trying to define what a Canadian is.

00:55:37.500 This thing wasn't grown from a distinct people.

00:55:42.940 it was just kind of slapped together um to serve you know a globalist sort of initiative but

00:55:50.680 yeah so it doesn't it that's why it feels so alien and hostile to a lot of canadians i don't

00:55:56.900 think there's i don't think there's any love for the government in canada even less so

00:56:01.640 if ottawa burned i think very few would weep

00:56:05.380 uh uh ottawa like the relationship of the average canadian to ottawa is the relationship of the

00:56:14.300 average european to brussels like uh like weirdly like this is what i i said this is why i saw the

00:56:24.220 us as and like americans were horrified at me i was like yeah washington dc you can just get rid

00:56:29.640 of that you can just like turn into a dump for radioactive waste and americans were horrified

00:56:34.480 of that but uh the in europe or canada the prospectively oh yes uh the the capital city

00:56:41.680 and the central government you know whether that's auto or brussels you know that shouldn't exist and

00:56:47.380 if anything it should be a dump for radioactive waste um that that is like maybe a like solid

00:56:58.000 30 to 40 percent of like canadians in every part of the country they all hate each other but

00:57:04.600 i like the parliament building but we can build another one if something happened there look

00:57:12.480 that's just where all my rapists live so yeah i don't love it i don't love this fucking town

00:57:18.620 you know what i mean like find me a canadian like ask i bet there's americans right now even

00:57:23.060 dissonant americans that have some fondness for the cia you know these institutions that they

00:57:29.740 still think are kind of cool and interesting but does there any canadian that loves csis

00:57:34.140 that there isn't find a canadian say what's your favorite canadian institution they don't like

00:57:38.680 fucking any of them they don't like any of this fucking shit you know i mean that's why that's

00:57:44.280 why we're getting away from it it's like my favorite canadian institution is castle loma

00:57:49.100 oh that's not that's a good one i love castle loma yeah sustained by the optimist club at

00:57:55.060 toronto like that's that's the largest canadian institution that anyone actually like like cares

00:58:02.640 about or has affection for is like oh yes it's maintained by a local club man i tell you people

00:58:09.980 if you can get out to castle loma i hate the name i don't know like i don't know it should have a

00:58:14.960 more distinguished name but anyway that's just my my my preference but yeah i used to live in

00:58:20.020 toronto i lived there i know you're somewhere around that area i think but i lived there for

00:58:24.860 like like eight years and so i as i all i hear stories of people from bc quebec east coast to

00:58:34.600 go to toronto for the first time and they're reporting on like david fucking attenborough

00:58:38.880 or something like like they've never seen a homeless person before like it's it's the big

00:58:44.280 smoke it's this is where the degeneracy lives i'm like yeah i know but i don't know i i get it

00:58:51.120 once you lock into the rhythms of the place and you know where the history is and like there's

00:58:56.220 cool shit in toronto i'm not supposed to say that because i'm supposed to want to do it's like

00:59:02.240 americans who performatively hate new york it's like yes yes yes all the people you hate are here

00:59:07.380 but like it's objectively a very cool place to visit like it like like going to new york city

00:59:14.780 and i i bloody drove to new york city which is the most miserable experience i could recommend

00:59:20.940 you go around the city if you want to go to new york city i i drove through jersey city

00:59:25.640 across the hall and tunnel and you know you're you yeah because you were doing the sopranos intro

00:59:30.620 weren't you i i i lived out the sopranos intro at rush hour and and the entire place it trans

00:59:39.140 transformed into india uh while i was there fucking kulak driving there alone

00:59:45.540 radio off which is something something like that takes two hours to get there just i was

00:59:54.400 following my gps that's what i was like it knows what it's doing but uh i went to new york i took

01:00:01.040 my whole family there and i'm corny i don't admit it went to central park i had a great time

01:00:06.340 oh yeah yeah it's a it's a fascinating like it it's amazing place to visit like the museums are

01:00:15.500 travel and toronto is like equally london's an amazing place to visit toronto is like

01:00:24.460 doubly amazing because like you're unlike every american city and like a good chunk of european

01:00:29.960 cities now you are going to take like a wrong turn that none of the locals will tell you about

01:00:34.500 and they'll like wind up getting stabbed like because you're there past 8 p.m which like is a

01:00:40.660 You tell me if I'm full of shit, but I lived there for a long time and it really didn't seem like it got bad with the Indians and the immigrants until the past like five years.

01:00:56.240 Like it was late to get that bad.

01:00:59.300 And I can tell you exactly when they did it.

01:01:01.380 They did it in summer of 2022.

01:01:06.060 Why did they do it in summer of 2022?

01:01:07.840 too because they want to punish English Canada for rebelling against lockdowns like you look at it

01:01:14.520 on a graph as soon as like there's lockdowns and immigration like drops off a cliff into Canada

01:01:20.900 because Canada had had like the point by immigration system which um you know this is part of the

01:01:29.440 reason where Canadians were like profoundly naive about immigration and then like suddenly became

01:01:35.180 profoundly racist like really quickly and like almost can't talk to americans because americans

01:01:40.480 like their entire culture is based around like lying and maintaining face and like like affecting

01:01:46.420 like a positive attitude whereas like canada up until 2015 really even 2020 you know the point

01:01:55.160 by immigration system like every immigrant you got you know maybe they had a bullshit degree but

01:02:00.940 They did have a real degree from, like, somewhere and, like, you know, were basically behaved enough that they were, like, going to become a lower middle class at a minimum.

01:02:14.200 You know, you might not have liked them, like, shouting at each other, like, their odd cultural habits.

01:02:19.320 So they might have, like, kind of altered the culture of your neighborhood.

01:02:22.700 but but it was a vaguely meritocratic immigration system where like you'd have like

01:02:29.740 where like you have three immigrants and it's like okay there's a polack an iranian and a china

01:02:35.420 chinese guy who all settled in my neighborhood and like i don't like that changing my neighborhood

01:02:41.400 but they're all like they all respect you as the authority and like hate each other more

01:02:47.380 so like so like you know it's not actually affecting the power balance very much and

01:02:53.600 and you know they aren't actually degrading anything like too greatly you know they're

01:02:58.920 disrupting your your neighborhood but like this is where Canadians like we're very proud of being

01:03:03.700 opening and accepting and whatnot and up until that point you know basically was increasing

01:03:10.440 the economy and like you know if you had the right attitude about it like you were you know

01:03:17.900 going to make money and have like a lot of really good meals off of it and like you could live in

01:03:23.200 your neighborhood i was always joking that the canadian the canadian view on multiculturalism

01:03:29.760 from heritage canadians was always done in a very british way where i think british people

01:03:35.820 are always surprised that people don't pick up on their passive aggressiveness so it's like oh yes

01:03:41.640 we welcome everyone here but surely we're not going to come you know like you say yeah we say

01:03:47.560 that but no you're not supposed to actually come here you didn't pick up on that but uh very much

01:03:52.860 i remember but i remember like in toronto like that timeline is correct because even back then

01:03:59.320 like i was in toronto during when trump was first elected and it was just a different vibe and i

01:04:04.600 would start going back and if you just did nathan phillips square like back then it was like mostly

01:04:09.760 white people and then over a couple years i remember going back i'm like there's a lot of

01:04:15.100 brown people here like they were they just showed they walked out of the shadows one day it was

01:04:20.540 and i think it was jarring for everyone like in in that's why like the canadian media apparatus

01:04:27.220 had to even account for it's like yeah we brought in an insane amount of people and they all went to

01:04:32.200 the same place and that you can't not talk about it you know yeah and that was a conscious policy

01:04:39.920 like you can see it in 2022 on the graph it's like okay under harper is like 200,000 300,000

01:04:47.720 year under trudeau went up to 400,000 500,000 a year during covid it dropped off like a stone

01:04:54.000 and then 2022 2023 all suddenly spikes up to three million a year all from india being brought in

01:05:02.140 like like all that is within five years and like uh like white canadians had no double think about

01:05:10.660 this because you know the canadian point by system was like generally like almost custom designed to

01:05:19.020 like create a like data set in your mind that you'd actually believe by all the multicultural

01:05:24.360 gobbledygook that's like well yeah everyone is equally intelligent because you iq tested everyone

01:05:30.780 before they were left allowed to come in and as soon as the indians like started coming in like 0.71

01:05:37.080 like uh complete shit live women who were like 100 full lockdown are like now and like wanted 1.00

01:05:45.560 you to be shot because you didn't get the vaccine are now like get these fucking people away from me 1.00

01:05:51.240 in ways that like you never see you know if your own child was raped in america by like a black

01:05:56.920 black person the americans like do not switch their opinions on by feel that that

01:06:01.760 like that because they have like 40 years of double think about it whereas canadians have

01:06:07.560 not had any double think whatsoever yeah they um and that's something we don't have up here and i

01:06:13.380 really try to express that to americans is that so much of their day-to-day life is

01:06:20.500 around the gravitational pull of slavery or the legacy of slavery or the purported legacy of

01:06:28.340 slavery you know i mean just black people black america is good neighborhoods good good school

01:06:35.160 districts you know so much of your life is spent avoiding that or trying to appeal to that we

01:06:42.440 actually don't have that up here we kind of have that with aboriginals but not really you don't

01:06:47.180 really hear about them they just well this is why like hipsterism is from canada because what is

01:06:52.560 hipsterism it's it's like urban alt culture that does involve black people like that's what

01:06:59.480 hipsterism is and that's why it all comes out of toronto because as soon as you're like in the u.s

01:07:05.380 all suddenly you know urban like left-wing or like or like artsy culture is dominated by uh

01:07:13.780 by rap hip-hop soul music our r&b and like that can't dominate canada because

01:07:21.700 you know flat percentage of the population is like one percent another area where canada

01:07:29.260 punches way above its weight is with music and uh it doesn't that that's one cultural export

01:07:36.300 canada has i was always surprised by but also again we got so many tangents we could go on

01:07:42.080 we could talk about hip-hop effectively dying, too.

01:07:45.260 Like, black people stopped being cool.

01:07:47.380 When would that have happened?

01:07:49.040 I want to say 2010.

01:07:49.680 That happened right when Elon Musk defunded,

01:07:54.460 when Doge defunded USAID.

01:07:57.400 Suddenly, rap music stopped appearing in the top 100.

01:08:02.360 I would say even before that,

01:08:04.060 it was, you know, the narrative was that

01:08:06.440 black culture was the cool, dominant culture.

01:08:09.420 And then even before that,

01:08:11.320 i started noticing that hip-hop culture was absorbing white skater culture goth culture

01:08:17.280 metal culture like all this white stuff they started just doing that um and then also like

01:08:23.340 preppy they started really connie west absorbing like white preppy frat culture and they stopped

01:08:28.460 doing their own thing and he realized oh you just had baggy pants for a minute and the rest this

01:08:33.800 time was you appropriating white stuff and here's the big thing that happened and i don't know i'm

01:08:39.560 gonna play it safe and not say it on here but it used to be that white people wanted to say the n

01:08:45.620 word the soft a black people wouldn't let them so what if white people start saying they started

01:08:50.820 saying bro white guys would say bro all the fucking time then black guys start saying bro

01:08:56.600 and like it's over then you got nothing like that that that's that shift where they just

01:09:02.400 fully started integrating in all white stuff like you don't have anything anymore then gangster rap

01:09:08.080 culture died and that happened fairly recently where it turned out that everybody's a snitch

01:09:12.920 everyone's a fucking liar everyone's a pussy you know chicago drill rap was out there trying to

01:09:18.740 say like here's here's the real ends who are out there really killing people it turns out they're

01:09:23.480 all fucking bitches they're all fucking rats and they don't they don't anyway um but the only real

01:09:29.260 g who wasn't an informer was snow from toronto who wrote the song informer if you see him now

01:09:37.180 he looks rough he looks like a motherfucker he looks like like a hot like he's just been playing

01:09:41.960 hockey ever since informer came out well he was he was in prison on like double attempted murder

01:09:50.240 charges when he wrote song and he he went the distance with that that wasn't like oh he played

01:09:56.120 out or oh the job the charges because it wasn't evident no no no that went to a jury verdict

01:10:01.040 and they found him not guilty.

01:10:04.220 Snow is in prison

01:10:05.440 raping men, I bet.

01:10:07.700 I'd give you a million dollars 0.98

01:10:09.260 if he didn't.

01:10:11.380 I just

01:10:13.460 fundamentally don't believe

01:10:14.800 that, like,

01:10:17.180 even a white guy from the hood feels that

01:10:19.060 compelled to rape men.

01:10:20.200 That's a... 0.86

01:10:22.200 No one with that physiognomy

01:10:25.820 feels that convulsion.

01:10:27.240 I want to get the read,

01:10:29.440 because i got my own prejudices here but i tend to think that most of rape is coming from black

01:10:34.540 inmates and i want to know what the rate is in canada where there's just like if you're in

01:10:40.120 prison in miami if you're in any like a huge black population like that that's a nightmare but i'm

01:10:46.580 like if you're in you know northern ontario jail i know there's aboriginals but they just don't

01:10:53.840 seem like a rapey people they seem

01:10:55.980 more like they just get sad

01:10:57.380 they like rape and abuse women

01:10:59.560 like that's what 1.00

01:11:00.760 that's what they do like

01:11:03.080 which quite frankly

01:11:05.200 you know is the exact like

01:11:07.460 their behavior hasn't changed since like

01:11:09.500 the 1600s

01:11:11.400 I think aboriginals

01:11:12.600 I'm going to say this right now

01:11:14.560 on kulak.com

01:11:18.280 I think the aboriginals

01:11:19.660 are a sexually inert people

01:11:21.880 what say you

01:11:23.840 I have heard too many stories, bizarre, insane stories, to say that.

01:11:34.540 They are in the media.

01:11:36.320 We must get some aboriginal sex stories.

01:11:40.580 You can't just yoink that away.

01:11:42.480 If you go to a lot of Inuit communities, they will just offer to let you sleep with their wife.

01:11:53.060 Really?

01:11:53.840 And it's, like, apparently it's, like, very awkward because you're never quite sure if you'll offend them if you say no.

01:12:02.140 And, like, the sexual assault rates in average old communities are insane.

01:12:07.500 Like, the most violent city in Canada is Iqaluit, Nunavut Territory, with, like, a homicide rate of, like, 25 per 100,000.

01:12:20.280 which like the equipment worse than washington dc which is one of like the most violent cities

01:12:25.420 in the u.s but uh the like rates of like like sexual assault trafficking of women uh it's like

01:12:33.960 like daughter rape um isn't one of the things where um this is part of the reason they're in

01:12:40.820 a culture where they can sleep with any woman they want because the sexual moors are so lax

01:12:45.160 and they still choose to rape they still choose to like molest kids yeah and this is one of the

01:12:53.200 things where like um like uh the honorable average like uh they're that's a very like

01:13:03.740 tight rope like uh they have certain certain bond of our honor but apparently they're like

01:13:10.240 the biggest assholes to do a drunk deal with this is the reason that uh the hell's angels like

01:13:16.820 has this like chokehold on on cocaine and crack because they're the only ones that can like deal

01:13:24.460 to uh that can like consistently deal to the average and uh also the carobs in in toronto

01:13:33.400 are like this because like apparently absolutely anyone else you're trying to sell them anything

01:13:37.440 and they were like just rob you

01:13:39.500 and like

01:13:40.640 show me the money first

01:13:43.220 alright you show us the drugs

01:13:45.020 we don't have

01:13:47.180 these drugs

01:13:48.900 well no it's like

01:13:52.200 they buy the drugs and then they divide it up

01:13:55.080 up and sell it but like if you show up

01:13:57.280 like you have to

01:13:59.100 like that's like the drug deal from

01:14:01.240 from Scarface

01:14:03.000 when he has to like sell in the apartment

01:14:05.460 and they come out with a chainsaw

01:14:07.100 like

01:14:07.440 stuff like that happens

01:14:09.400 to people who are trying to sell drugs

01:14:11.540 to the Aboriginal gangs.

01:14:13.920 Honestly, I feel like

01:14:15.140 I'd be really embarrassed if an Aboriginal

01:14:17.800 got the drop on me like that.

01:14:20.620 You know, because they talk like

01:14:21.600 they're these amazing trackers. They're not.

01:14:24.300 They talk like they're one with

01:14:25.780 the nature. They aren't.

01:14:28.320 You know what I mean?

01:14:28.880 Like, if an Aboriginal gets the drop

01:14:31.160 on me, you better hack me up with a

01:14:32.760 fucking chainsaw.

01:14:33.680 but yeah no this is this is what all the stories and and accounts and researches

01:14:43.720 i have heard heard and looking to have uh told me about about that but uh i've learned a lot

01:14:53.080 this episode man this is a good one oh thank you but we're here to learn from you and this is

01:15:00.660 this is kind of what i want to get to this is why we laid out all this uh canada bullshit because

01:15:07.920 if there's anywhere in the world that i'd be like like oh we're trying to build like a local

01:15:15.320 culture we're trying to build like rebuild a national culture we're trying to build something

01:15:21.180 like coherent and local and and you know get like-minded people together in meat space you

01:15:30.100 know sharing a culture and rebuilding those like local bonds anyone in america or europe would

01:15:38.320 assume canada is the worst place to try that that's like oh if you're trying to do that there

01:15:43.980 you're just scurred like the revolution isn't going to happen there and yet a big part of me

01:15:49.300 thinks no the revolution has to happen here because you know this is where the the one ring

01:15:56.880 of global homo was forged this is where where diversity is our strength was was inculcated and

01:16:03.800 and all the propaganda forged only here can it be unmade and and you are one of the guys who has

01:16:11.780 very successfully done this you've talked about the events you organized there are a lot of events

01:16:17.540 going on i had to reschedule an event like just today because there's overlapping with other

01:16:24.500 events that were being ordered has led later this month you know i'm actually having like

01:16:29.500 finding it a pain in the ass to organize events because so many events are organized just into

01:16:36.100 the like toronto ontario area just in this little metro area i'm like oh gee am i you know this is

01:16:44.980 like this is like being a a girl in universe university you know oh my god there's so many

01:16:54.400 events do i even want to go to that one do i want to flake on that one your dance card's full kulak

01:17:00.740 exactly and that would be shocking to a lot of people that that's here that the the the event

01:17:10.560 calendar is near full here so i i want you to tell our audience about your seekers as being one of

01:17:19.040 the mavens who's managed to make actual local events

01:17:23.720 and local organization, local community, happen.

01:17:27.880 Thank you for directing people to that.

01:17:31.300 And it was these events that we had hosted,

01:17:34.180 and this is an ongoing project,

01:17:35.580 and we're working on a series of salons

01:17:39.820 and not necessarily a book club,

01:17:42.620 but sort of like a hybrid model of a couple of different things

01:17:45.120 that are hopefully going to take place on a monthly basis,

01:17:48.680 starting in september but uh the previous events were mainly i started off as a speaker event and i

01:17:55.800 my organization company of adventurers i had partnered with two other people individuals

01:18:00.920 and then the first one was just regular speaking engagement and we had that was where wilhelm

01:18:06.820 apologist was there john carter was there a day the distributist was there and uh early on we had

01:18:13.180 a mandate that we wanted to really focus on and be exclusive to canadian content creators and the

01:18:20.780 little um you know loophole we had there was dave was moving to bc i think he was moving to

01:18:28.760 vancouver so i said okay he's technically canadian momentarily uh he eventually left and moved back

01:18:33.560 to california where he's from his people are from but uh we maintain that i'm always trying to just

01:18:41.360 bring in canadian talent uh because there's more than enough there's more than we can cover that

01:18:46.200 it's so much good uh talent up here that we don't even have enough events to invite everyone but

01:18:53.880 that's how it started off as and then you know very soon after that i just um you know there's

01:18:59.660 other groups that are very good at having these speaking engagements and conferences and there's

01:19:06.260 even you know alt light and uh center right groups all throughout canada that have you know

01:19:12.580 lauren southern and fucking dr drew did one in bc like they'll have these very much like kind of

01:19:19.980 like a maga type of thing like anti anti-woke conferences they'll have those those aren't

01:19:27.540 really on my radar um we're talking about other stuff but um i wanted to get away from just doing

01:19:33.580 speaking engagements and conferences and I said well what other events can we have and what are

01:19:39.880 we trying to do here and so a lot of people have events because I just want to get you know big

01:19:44.880 names to come in and sell tickets and like you know you can do that that's fine but that's not

01:19:50.660 really what we want to do and that's what's made um us a bit unique and I said you know what we're

01:19:55.480 trying to do is you know bring people together to form relationships to to broker these these

01:20:02.160 broker these brotherhoods whatever you want to call it but i said you know once you start

01:20:05.500 looking at that there's such a variety of events you can do and that's what led to our second

01:20:11.780 event which is called northern exposure that's where you went to and we said well what's just

01:20:16.740 a fun fucking event that we can get excited about and then the type of event that we would want to

01:20:22.900 go to because it's not a given that i want to be just around a bunch of fucking sensitive young men

01:20:28.160 in their suits listening to the same the same thing i've been hearing for like seven eight

01:20:34.440 years everyone says the west has fallen what are we to do wait for the collapse like this the same

01:20:41.220 sort of diatribes you hear time and time again you know we need to retribalize six years of that

01:20:47.840 shit right so i said but what's what's just a good event and so we want we got a huge cabin

01:20:53.260 in, you know, northern-ish Ontario.

01:20:57.000 And we said, what if we just got together

01:20:58.500 and we got drunk and went fishing

01:21:01.080 and ate good food and hung out

01:21:03.600 and went hiking and did axe throwing

01:21:07.860 and just name an activity.

01:21:10.120 And we just hung out.

01:21:12.780 And there weren't a lot of places doing that.

01:21:14.980 And people loved that.

01:21:17.080 Rederiving summer camp from first principles.

01:21:19.760 Pretty much, yeah.

01:21:20.640 And it was all, everyone got their own bed and shared rooms and everything.

01:21:25.500 And I just had a whale of a time doing that.

01:21:27.880 And then we started thinking, well, with that in mind, what can we do next?

01:21:30.720 What if we just rent a giant boat or something?

01:21:33.120 The creativity from there, you know, just explodes.

01:21:39.220 And so then the third event was the April event, which you spoke at, which was every

01:21:43.720 single time they've gotten bigger for the second event, it was smaller, but we wanted

01:21:47.680 it to be more like it was like 25 people 25 30 people in total but i'm like i don't want to be

01:21:52.940 big it's got to be a bit more intimate than that but then the speaking events i just wanted to

01:21:57.320 nail that one because i'm like ah there's some things we didn't do right with the first one we

01:22:01.540 didn't have a merch table or people could sell their merch you know it wasn't recorded

01:22:05.240 um so we did all that increase the complexity by five and uh so then we did that then we just went

01:22:12.580 back to thinking well what is it we want to do always trying to think like was is it just for

01:22:17.980 vanity is it just for something on a resume are we actually trying to make experiences that people

01:22:24.060 remember and that's why i keep coming back to and like if we do it right if we do if we do everything

01:22:30.020 wrong then people will remember this as a catastrophic failure for the rest of their lives

01:22:35.540 but if we do it right then this is something that they're really gonna honestly it sounds

01:22:41.760 grandiose but they'll remember this for the rest of their lives they'll remember and this is what

01:22:45.220 i hear from people in emails and conversations and to me it's a blur during it i'm not enjoying

01:22:51.120 it at all i'm in a blind panic i'm putting out fires everything is organized very discreetly

01:22:58.800 and intensely and so it's very very difficult to do every single one is months and months of work

01:23:04.060 and every single time i do it i say i'm not doing this ever again and then i do i've got like so

01:23:10.380 many more planned but once it's happening i'm like fuck this we pulled it off against all odds we did

01:23:15.480 it but no more and then obviously but it just felt like this is where things are trending and people

01:23:23.160 think it sounds reductive to say but i think people are generally served if they can thrust

01:23:30.020 themselves out of the online space and there's other organizations that do this where they

01:23:34.880 you know wilhelm apologists we talked about him i talked about i think you probably do this in

01:23:38.620 space where you get little meetups going um maybe even a decentralized fashion he had his own

01:23:44.200 thing and i know like four guys who got book clubs and that's better than nothing it's good

01:23:50.660 that people are doing that or you know they got this all around america too and they'll go on

01:23:55.380 hikes they'll go on wherever then you have the active clubs then you have everything else on

01:23:59.420 that and i think that's a trend in canada that i'm enjoying to see i think there's a lot of

01:24:06.640 different variations of the types of getting offline that people are doing not all in the

01:24:11.620 same direction not all for the same purpose but i would recommend more people do that my co-host

01:24:17.180 judas he was always apprehensive about it because you know he had an image of what the average blood

01:24:23.220 satellite fan was like he thought it was going to just be some hunched chud and then once he met

01:24:29.580 because we brought out a lot of blood satellite fans to these uh these these events and once he

01:24:36.400 met them he said these people are all cool these people are all winners I'm not I'm not going to

01:24:40.620 be out here saying that they're all normal because that sounds boring they're better than normal

01:24:44.340 they're successful they've got families they got jobs they're charismatic they're funny they're

01:24:49.680 interesting people you know they're not fucking freaks like you might you might joke about right

01:24:54.920 like I bet you meet a lot of your fans readers listeners I bet they're pretty cool people too

01:25:00.400 and and people are always shocked by that you know even amongst themselves but once you realize that

01:25:07.740 I mean things get less they just feel less dire once you can actually get out there and realize

01:25:15.280 that these are real people when things are online it can seem fake and you can get locked into a

01:25:21.040 mindset where it's like hey the real world's out there but this is my little space where

01:25:25.080 all my fake people are agreeing with me on things but it's good to see that you can have

01:25:32.100 radical views and a dissident view of what the future should hold and look at them and say oh

01:25:38.920 you're not fucked up you're not a freak you're not an an unfuckable chud or whatever i'm like

01:25:44.780 i think just knowing that helps with like ai and like bot activity like um i'm almost certain this

01:25:52.060 has already happened to people were because like i i see this in some mind engagements where all

01:25:58.700 suddenly i start thinking in the back of my mind wait was that like a bot response what percentage

01:26:04.760 of these are bot responses and like this is a thing called heaven banning yeah yeah or

01:26:11.880 well a lot of the bots responding to me are still replying like like uh like aggressively

01:26:20.440 like uh like hey for like aggressively like disagreeing but it's like wait that's an indian

01:26:29.220 that i think is a bot it's like pretty soon like just algorithmically they'll be able to like

01:26:38.480 ban you to like uh digital purgatory where where everyone you interact with is like

01:26:45.960 and is really bought uh yeah a an indian indian who's like just thirst they're strapping over

01:26:55.920 your whatever uh uh like a 14 year old and and like someone who's actually mentally disabled

01:27:05.340 that like that oh i just want to mention heaven banning because you seem to know what that is but

01:27:12.780 You know, this is what necessitates really getting offline because we're going to be entering in a technological paradigm where you really can't be sure who you're talking to.

01:27:23.940 And I think this was experimented on Reddit.

01:27:26.700 But, you know, when you ban someone and let them know that they're banned, they can get a victim mentality or they can become a martyr, as we see with many accounts.

01:27:37.260 But they said, well, what can we do to just render someone inert?

01:27:40.520 It's sort of just sequester them into a place of bots that just agree with them and kind of whip them up into a frenzy.

01:27:47.560 And it's actually easier to nullify someone's influence by kind of secret, by gradually isolating them into a prison of positive reinforcement for their own radicalism.

01:27:59.620 So the idea would be, you know, you need to get offline just to prove that you're talking to real people.

01:28:05.900 and also like and i'll tell you this and this is what i'll say to anyone who's listening who hasn't

01:28:11.300 done this it's like if you've got a yearning to do something i i think if you actually go to any

01:28:18.520 sorts of these events you'll put yourself in a position where that just happens i mean i'll give

01:28:22.560 you one example where uh my co-host judas uh he met a guy at the first event the december event

01:28:30.220 and they struck up a conversation they saw each other face to face shook each other's hands had

01:28:34.560 a good time and then he eventually ended up driving his whole family to the east coast of

01:28:41.040 canada to help this guy build a house both these guys got families but they just they met they

01:28:46.920 they could verify that they're real it's easier to vet someone in real life than just tracking

01:28:53.020 their online profile you get a good vibe from someone but like if you put if you want to do

01:28:58.100 quote unquote do things i'll tell you what a real good shortcut is it's just meeting these people in

01:29:03.820 real life sussing them out figuring out who's kind of cool and then this stuff kind of just happens

01:29:08.960 you don't need to plan it as much and just maximize the amount of time treat it like a third place

01:29:14.920 we're rebuilding third places some might say fourth place but this is what our ancestors used

01:29:20.900 to just do they used to go to the pub and do this now we need to like make a mission and a strategy

01:29:26.840 out of it but you know that's that's our mission as a generation that has to like relearn and

01:29:34.200 rediscover all this stuff so yeah sorry i that's a bit of a rant there i didn't want to interrupt

01:29:39.880 you no perfect uh and i i actually have an upcoming event to show uh if you're on the

01:29:51.940 discord server i will have a link to the discord server in this episode or in the toronto area we

01:29:58.680 have a uh a book club coming coming up this month uh little women uh is the book we're

01:30:08.240 we're having a uh a co-ed we've had enough war war books over the past few months we're doing

01:30:16.620 something something very twee and friendly and uh 19th century for the to close out the summer

01:30:22.860 but also uh coming up in september we're having our first misery march which um i'm not sure if

01:30:32.220 you've heard of this judas i am organizing a 30 kilometer death march uh across toronto uh

01:30:41.500 uh the the thing that is like standard with like groups that go on hiking trips

01:30:49.740 is oh you go somewhere very nice you know you go to a nice scenic place you all do a nice scenic

01:30:55.860 walk for like a few kilometers and then you know you have a meal or whatnot does that really make

01:31:03.120 you friends did you really achieve something uh is that really uh going to like bind you together

01:31:09.660 that you took like a stroll down the scenic walkway at Niagara along the river

01:31:17.600 and then stopped in at a winery.

01:31:19.500 So, no, we are going to do the exact opposite.

01:31:21.720 We are going to go to the most miserable, desolate part of the greater Toronto area,

01:31:29.660 deep into Ajax or Mississauga or Brampton or Vaughan.

01:31:36.720 uh you could just do that in scarborough if you wanted to we are going to we're going to go to

01:31:45.140 the most desolate industrial parts part hellscape sprawl part of the city that that uh we can

01:31:56.280 reasonably get to and then we are going to walk back on a hot summer summer's day surviving out

01:32:04.580 somewhere between six and nine hours uh i have one guy who's very excited for it who's 60

01:32:11.660 years old uh i've had people tell me they want they're considering coming up from

01:32:18.500 like the southern u.s for this that this sounded really exciting lots of people turning out the

01:32:25.580 big achievement is we want to try to get absolutely everyone across the finish line the the achievement

01:32:31.040 isn't speed or like your individual fitness it's showing the leadership that that whoever shows up

01:32:36.980 we're going to do everything we can to to get them across that finish line we're going to shelf with

01:32:41.720 kit more kit than we need because someone might be miss missing some we're going to bring all

01:32:47.120 our extra water so that no one dehydrates extra hats and stuff and this will be a great exercising

01:32:53.380 and team building and leadership and raw endurance

01:32:56.640 in the nightmarish cyberpunk's prowl

01:33:02.860 that is the greater Toronto area.

01:33:05.280 And that's coming up in September.

01:33:08.120 So if you are interested, join the Discord server

01:33:11.400 and ping me that you are interested

01:33:14.440 so I can make sure to let you know exactly when we have the dates.

01:33:20.120 That sounds really cool.

01:33:22.100 I like that.

01:33:23.380 The more stuff like that, like I was saying before, the more the better.

01:33:28.560 For some people, it's training, hiking, rucking, all that active club stuff.

01:33:33.920 That's good, too.

01:33:35.240 My policy when it comes to this, and I was saying this when I was speaking to Antelope Hill just the other day.

01:33:41.040 I have an interview with them.

01:33:42.040 It's probably going to come out in a few weeks.

01:33:44.580 But it's so common that we get into these circular firing squads and bicker over which is the best model.

01:33:53.420 But my policy has always been more and bigger and faster and yesterday.

01:34:00.580 You know, whatever the group is, there should be, you know, domain society should be 10 times as big.

01:34:05.600 Second son should be 10 times as big and more of them, more, just more, more events, more people doing more things, more projects.

01:34:13.360 there's more than enough people

01:34:15.500 there's more than enough territory

01:34:16.920 I think we're on

01:34:17.940 there's a lot of momentum behind what we're doing right now

01:34:20.940 and the right people

01:34:22.120 like you had always said this entire time

01:34:24.600 in Canada

01:34:26.120 there's a remarkable amount of people

01:34:29.160 doing this sort of thing

01:34:30.340 it's highly competitive

01:34:32.080 but I just think there's such opportunity up here

01:34:35.480 and you might not know that on the outside

01:34:38.080 but I've lived here my entire life

01:34:40.520 as I'm sure you have

01:34:41.940 As I'm sure many of your listeners have

01:34:43.920 But it's like

01:34:44.880 There's something happening here

01:34:46.740 There's something going on

01:34:48.100 It's kind of happening in Australia too

01:34:50.880 But not like here

01:34:52.100 And you know

01:34:53.980 It's not like in

01:34:55.380 You can look at what's going on in Germany

01:34:59.140 Like there's these great parties

01:35:01.140 These great movements in Ireland

01:35:03.020 And I'm like

01:35:04.060 There's something bigger

01:35:06.360 And something weirder

01:35:08.580 Going on over here

01:35:09.820 and uh i i think we're locked into some something new yeah that's hard to describe so uh the i was

01:35:19.200 having a conversation was a good friend of mine uh we've in the book club that uh i i run on the

01:35:27.440 server we recently did like two three months on uh ireland's various wars we did the irish war

01:35:34.300 of independence and we did the troubles and one of the things that like jumped out to us immediately

01:35:39.060 reading up on the uh irish war of independence was uh and like the easter rising and all that

01:35:46.520 was the vast ecosystem of organizations that just existed like not that they had them not

01:35:53.740 that they had set up not that they had had you know quote-unquote organized like let just do

01:35:58.700 like where the exact same movement is creating 20 organizations all with the same objective but

01:36:06.880 like they had the irish language association they had the women's women's irish temperance movement

01:36:13.300 they had the the ir the irish poetry association they had they had uh you know the ira but they

01:36:24.840 also had like lesser paramilitaries like they had service clubs that had like a paramilitary

01:36:29.980 structure that they like marched around and whatnot but mostly had yeah and they had like

01:36:34.380 four generations of men involved in like this was a community like a grassroots thing that existed

01:36:41.540 outside of Sinn Féin yeah but it wasn't just like the depth of the generation it was also

01:36:49.280 the width and the breadth that like they're like uh you know a city like Cork would have like

01:36:55.540 20 of these and they'd all be different and they'd all have like a slightly different

01:36:59.740 mission orientation and they'd all be be like structured very differently like there'd be

01:37:06.380 be the irish veterans association the lay actually had like tons of irish veterans of like

01:37:13.660 world war one and the boar war and stuff who were like still doing like paramilitary drilling and

01:37:20.000 whatnot and because it was such a vast ecosystem all these had like organizational like standards

01:37:29.080 that they were inculcating into people so like one person you know if someone decided to join

01:37:35.040 like an irish flying calm and actually be like no i'm going to be out in the field for the next

01:37:40.100 four months you know you know pray i don't get ambushed and trying to ambush the british

01:37:46.300 uh like he could show he'd show up like already like doing drill and being but well quit for

01:37:53.340 organization knowing a good chunk of the people you he was showing up to meet because they had

01:37:59.760 all been in this like vast vast ecosystem of like irish cultural institutions and like social clubs

01:38:06.520 and stuff no and we did um we covered two books on the ira and uh we both covered the same one

01:38:15.580 which i think was bandit country you and i which is a really good one bandit country is incredible

01:38:21.200 yeah i really like that one and i wrote an article for the vanguardist journal where i was

01:38:27.320 contrasting uh the ira with flq and showing like how are they different and i won't go into the

01:38:35.800 details there people can read it it's a a tale of two violent nationalisms but i i love the ira and

01:38:43.760 i've been i've spoke recently to uh a guy you would find interesting if you haven't spoken

01:38:49.240 before conscious karakal who is i think like the communications director for the afro forum

01:38:56.840 in south africa and if you look at what they've accomplished in south africa just the institutions

01:39:04.460 they created that they pulled from the fucking dirt like they have their own universities they

01:39:09.760 have their own everything they're like networks of companies and mutual aid networks if they built

01:39:15.160 like a parallel society so i'm not saying that's the exact same as ireland but it's like there's

01:39:20.580 two examples of how to approach the scale of the solution to the problems that we have

01:39:28.020 and that's the scale that i think is achievable in canada it'd be different because it's a different

01:39:34.800 just a different territory entirely but i just think there's something it won't look exactly

01:39:42.300 like that because we have a canada demands a 21st century solution to 21st century problems and

01:39:48.740 it does border the most consequential empire in the history of planet earth right so that must

01:39:56.440 be taken into account you know canada next to the u.s is i mean probably more difficult than

01:40:04.360 ireland next to the england right but i i would say they're actually like pretty analogous at this

01:40:12.820 point in history just because the american empire is like its place in the world is so

01:40:20.120 unstable at the current moment like like uh when we knew like uh when it comes to like

01:40:28.400 organizing these side institutions and like building networks of like fit people like uh

01:40:34.980 you know that might be a next 10 year thing but like there's a lot of scenarios where that's like

01:40:39.500 a next 10 months thing just because the like uh you know our our global empire is involved in two

01:40:48.360 two unstable wars at the moment that both threaten like the international financial system

01:40:55.080 Like both of those can like go sideways very quickly

01:40:59.840 And you might be amazed at how quickly you want to be

01:41:02.840 Be organized, involved with a network of people

01:41:06.100 And also I think we are in a paradigm of spite presidencies

01:41:13.340 I'm not blaming Trump for that

01:41:14.840 But whatever Democrat gets in charge after Trump

01:41:18.400 Is going to be taking something out

01:41:20.860 On Trump's legacy and such as it is

01:41:24.760 and trump fans and then whoever comes after that i'm like i it's maybe been trending that way since

01:41:30.620 obama but i'm like like there's people who are really scared that the next guy is really gonna

01:41:36.120 fuck with half america and that's probably never gonna stop so that's an internal discombobulation

01:41:41.940 that if they don't get a hold of that it is just gonna fly apart maybe not in the next few years

01:41:49.300 but certainly within our lifetimes.

01:41:51.400 Yeah.

01:41:53.120 Intuitively, like, I didn't – I've never reacted to that

01:41:58.740 just because, like, we've kind of seen in Canada

01:42:02.440 with the trucker's convoy, and it's like, yes,

01:42:05.360 but they don't actually – the Canada doesn't actually have

01:42:08.640 the state capacity to, like, actually go after people.

01:42:13.220 Really, they try, and they really threaten, like,

01:42:16.180 grr we mean it we're going to and then you know we're on the like fifth extension of the embassy

01:42:23.300 for like the gun ban and and you know canada is still the place despite them trying to pass

01:42:30.940 hate speech laws canada is still a place for you're way less likely to get a door knock

01:42:35.800 over tweets or whatnot than like random town in texas where you said something wrong or like the

01:42:43.700 uk right now is a fucking nightmare i'll tell you what i almost got bamboozled by some screenshot

01:42:50.940 i said you can catch me in real time catching my fucking dumb ass when i was talking to randy

01:42:55.560 hillier where i said you know this bill c9 someone showed me some stuff that said they're

01:43:01.400 going to criminalize denying residential schools and then i actually looked it up as i was live

01:43:08.620 streaming and said oh no that's not the case in fact they had proposed that in the bill and it

01:43:12.800 was struck down by everyone. I thought, oh, so

01:43:14.780 hmm, it's actually the opposite

01:43:16.780 of what I thought. But you know what I mean?

01:43:18.840 But I'm like, you'd think

01:43:20.180 that would pass with flying colors, but even

01:43:22.820 that, you know, sometimes they're trying to

01:43:24.860 smuggle in some free speech stuff that actually

01:43:26.680 doesn't go through, and we just

01:43:28.880 kind of have to get hysterical about nothing.

01:43:31.240 So that is...

01:43:32.300 Especially Ontario, like

01:43:34.700 multiple times in

01:43:36.820 just the past five years, like the OPP

01:43:38.900 and various Ontario police

01:43:40.860 forces have like

01:43:42.800 issued letters, like, open letters, like, vaguely addressed at the federal government that basically

01:43:47.760 said, you can pass these laws, but we're not going to enforce them because that's not a valuable

01:43:53.760 or safe use of our time. Because basically the Canadian police forces have, like, this intense

01:44:01.420 cultural legacy that they are, like, terrified of the Canadian population. Like, America has

01:44:07.920 school shootings uh canada has like police ambushes and this goes back to like the mad

01:44:14.000 trapper of rat river and like 1932 and actually long before that there were mad trappers before

01:44:20.100 the the famous mad trapper albert johnson but just like every like three to four years there's a

01:44:28.560 dramatic like ambush shooting of police and it like doesn't really stand out because um you know

01:44:35.360 the u.s has about that many until you remember canada has like one-tenth the population of the

01:44:41.840 u.s and then you do the math until you oh wow canada despite like having a way lower home

01:44:47.720 side rate has way more like low nuts that go go off and like shoot like four plus police off

01:44:58.740 officers at a time just like it's like a weird cultural thing of like you know lone nuts out

01:45:06.920 in the woods who like had been hunting their entire life and know how their rifle works

01:45:12.260 and you know what i say to that i say if it ain't broke don't fix it

01:45:17.260 well there's no way to fix it because it works it works because like objectively

01:45:23.860 works it works can't uh like has like doesn't need a larger police force for uh like the amount

01:45:32.560 of crime it has but uh objectively cannot crush the english the english or french population

01:45:41.280 uh with anywhere near the forces that that has and like all the police forces are very aware

01:45:47.540 of like how obscenely outgunned they are in canada like we have 20 million firearms

01:45:53.860 in this country and a combined like government's you know police plus military of like maybe 120

01:46:03.460 000 like uh well you know i know you always talk about this like i don't want to say you're

01:46:11.000 a violence writer

01:46:13.360 that's kind of what you're famous for right

01:46:15.400 I am in a regular warfare

01:46:17.480 commentator

01:46:18.640 oh there you go

01:46:21.600 and I'm going to yoink that for myself

01:46:23.960 but

01:46:24.760 I was even talking about this in our community

01:46:27.920 the other day and I do need to get going soon

01:46:29.620 so maybe we could actually

01:46:31.100 maybe end on this

01:46:32.860 I was saying that

01:46:34.960 what the fuck was I saying

01:46:37.200 oh yeah it was

01:46:39.000 we're talking about violence

01:46:42.380 essentially and

01:46:44.120 how people

01:46:46.520 always say people can fed

01:46:48.380 post and people vent

01:46:49.780 right but I said

01:46:51.580 there's a lot of stories that we don't

01:46:54.580 cover on the show

01:46:56.420 Blood Satellite because

01:46:58.520 the riots in Spain and

01:47:00.520 all of the mass migration

01:47:02.500 incursions and all the rape

01:47:04.340 and violence and havoc that's caused

01:47:06.480 we have covered that stuff

01:47:08.400 in the past but the reason we don't cover it as much is because we don't really have anything new

01:47:12.580 to say about it the answer to that is the exact same every single time wherever we see it we see

01:47:19.200 it in america you see it in in the uk we say you know what should happen is white guys should get

01:47:25.440 a bunch of weapons and start using them until this stops and that's it you can just copy and

01:47:31.800 paste that to whatever the instance is because what else are you supposed to do we actually

01:47:37.400 tried everything else you tried every single other solution and up to and including you know

01:47:45.040 the rotherham report about the betrayal of the police the police are not on your side the

01:47:49.440 intelligence apparatus is on your side how are you supposed to prevent being raped and murdered

01:47:55.460 that's what's happening the americans are elected your children a racist giant orange literally

01:48:03.240 hitler game show host three times in a row and then he decided he realized that he couldn't do

01:48:12.780 anything and then tried to rescue his presidency by doing what the intelligence agencies wanted

01:48:19.880 him to do like that is how hopeless it is that like you can elect a guy who like they they feel

01:48:27.100 the need to shoot at and even he will cave that's like i can't make the system work unless i give it

01:48:33.640 what it wants he can't even go after antifa the people who from the looks of it seem to have shot

01:48:40.560 at him twice so what at least twice so if he can't do that then he's not going to do anything

01:48:46.880 um and not to get into a whole trump thing of course but you're living through the camp of

01:48:52.720 the saints right now where you're seeing boat boats of illiterate rapists right come up on your

01:48:58.240 shores and immediately start harassing your women it's like well what are you gonna do well i guess

01:49:02.620 you should get a bunch of bricks and bats and knives and whatever the fuck and start being

01:49:06.960 unreasonable until it stops if not that then tell me what i beg you with tears in my eyes i have a

01:49:15.940 I have a piece coming out on the, shall we call it, the hypothetical logistics of such a scenario as relates to an event that happened in the past.

01:49:29.040 So it's not advocacy.

01:49:31.020 It's a hypothetical alternate history that covers all this in very exacting detail.

01:49:37.960 And we always have to temper what we say and add all these disclaimers.

01:49:42.620 But I say this now

01:49:44.040 I'll tell this to a fucking judge

01:49:46.040 Everything I just said

01:49:47.620 I don't give a shit

01:49:48.800 You tell me what else we can do

01:49:50.360 People, good people, good men

01:49:52.820 Are being brought to the brink

01:49:54.060 Because they're seeing their children allowed to be raped

01:49:57.260 And the police seem to think it's funny

01:49:59.780 To throw them in jail

01:50:01.240 For talking about it

01:50:02.660 You tell me what people are supposed to do

01:50:05.000 You know, this is the only thing

01:50:07.640 I can think of to make it stop

01:50:08.600 Otherwise, maybe they just start doing that

01:50:11.020 until you come up with a better reason,

01:50:12.680 maybe because you're the fucking government

01:50:14.160 and that's supposed to be your job.

01:50:15.600 You don't want to do your job.

01:50:16.740 How about things just start exploding?

01:50:19.120 I recommend everyone go and watch the film

01:50:22.700 The Law Abiding Citizen.

01:50:24.820 It's the good version of Citizen Vigilante

01:50:29.460 that they made in 2009

01:50:31.300 before they realized that they shouldn't have made that movie.

01:50:34.300 It stars Gerard Butler.

01:50:36.300 uh he he's a brilliant inventor whose wife and child get like murdered and then the murders are

01:50:43.200 set free so he starts firebombing judges and like creating saw traps to go after the police

01:50:50.160 and they made this movie this had a full uh u.s u.s budget in 2009 this this is a 30 million

01:50:58.860 dollar hollywood film i i encourage you to look it up they weren't allowed to make fun of the

01:51:04.900 ultimate minority in america judges

01:51:08.100 the most the most marginalized minority yeah god that the judiciary is this is one of the things

01:51:20.500 that like i will never forgive like uh institutional or like libertarians for is like

01:51:27.280 the amount of like hyping up of the judicial system they did like the legitimizing of like

01:51:33.020 the american judicial system which is like not even like actually in the constitution like it

01:51:39.460 was made up by uh it was made up by like the courts during the uh the jefferson administration

01:51:47.120 and jefferson like treated them with contempt you know and somehow that becomes like the arbiter

01:51:54.320 arbiter of what the constitution and your rights are like the constitution itself was something of

01:52:00.640 a coup coup against like the actual american evolution which is the articles of confederation

01:52:05.820 but like the idea that like the judiciary controls what your freedoms are your the judiciary controls

01:52:13.360 what your ancient ancestral rights are absolutely not in no one none of your ancestors thought that

01:52:20.840 way and this is entirely like a coup by like boomer cons and like and like regime libertarians

01:52:29.700 as uh lou rockwalk calls them to like reify this idea of like no no no what you do is you give

01:52:37.880 more money to lawyers and then that gives you more freedom no yeah and there's more people

01:52:44.840 than ever before having these conversations for whatever a conversation is worth but it's not

01:52:50.460 worth nothing i'll tell you this i've been retarded and insane for a long time and i've

01:52:55.800 watched the rest of society catch up with me oops that's not good

01:53:01.400 occasionally i'll get pinked and i'll see an entire conversation of people saying you know

01:53:09.480 kulak was right you know yeah i used to think of myself as a good person but now i'm but now i'm

01:53:17.340 thinking more along lines of kulak you know i i used to be a liberal but now now i'm having

01:53:25.340 these kulaki thoughts like referring to to me and my like my uh irregular warfare commentary

01:53:34.900 uh that that uh people are like reaching reaching like basically a weimar point where it's like no

01:53:47.780 no we're just going to live in a world where like violent paramilitaries are part of the

01:53:52.940 political process and that that's clearly the only thing that will work which is true imagine

01:53:58.020 Imagine if during Weimar, the Weimar Republic, they also just brought in 50 million Indians.

01:54:06.820 Think of how much worse.

01:54:08.020 What I'm trying to say is what you're living through right now is worse than Weimar.

01:54:12.620 Anyway, I do need to get...

01:54:14.240 Well, they did.

01:54:14.860 Look up the Rhineland bastards. 0.99

01:54:16.820 That's what the French did to occupy German territory.

01:54:20.780 And let me just say this.

01:54:21.980 Irregular warfare demands irregular fellows.

01:54:27.160 Exactly.

01:54:28.020 No, a quick shill, all your stuff, so that our readers can hear all more time.

01:54:34.600 Yeah, so the show I host is called Blood Satellite.

01:54:39.000 You can go to bloodsatellite.ca to find access to all the episodes and the videos and things of that nature.

01:54:47.120 I'm on Substack at the vanguardistjournal.substack.com.

01:54:53.120 and the video in question is called how to make a canadian people and that's a release through

01:55:00.780 good sufferer production so if you search how to how to make a canadian people on youtube on rumble

01:55:07.920 on x that's on my x profile at legally ironic you can find that there so it's on wherever videos

01:55:16.440 are hosted and uh it's around 40 minutes and change something like that and it's a sequel

01:55:23.060 to paving over the canadian uh public which was the story the story of mass migration in canada

01:55:29.680 how that happened when that happened who's responsible for it happening so these are the

01:55:35.400 first two and what i'm intending to be a planned trilogy but i'll discuss that at a later date

01:55:41.640 That's enough blogging for now, I think.

01:55:44.920 Yeah, so send me the links to those, and I will include that in the show notes this episode.

01:55:50.240 So you just have to go on the Subtac page or in the notes on your podcatcher.

01:55:58.600 And I will include a link to my Discord so you listeners at home can join the book club.

01:56:06.640 or if you want to march 30 kilometers in the blazing sun

01:56:12.820 through absolute misery and you're in the Toronto area,

01:56:15.680 come up for our first misery march.

01:56:19.120 But I will include all those links.

01:56:23.120 Anything you want to leave us off with?

01:56:26.140 No, well, I'll just leave you with thank you so much for having me on.

01:56:29.540 This has been a great interview.

01:56:31.520 I usually plan for around an hour.

01:56:33.880 We're getting close to two hours right now,

01:56:35.260 which means I had a great time.

01:56:37.060 And thank you for always coming out to our events.

01:56:40.600 I'd love to come out to one of yours soon.

01:56:42.800 It's a bit hard for me because I got the family and all that shit,

01:56:46.860 but I do intend to get out to one of these soon.

01:56:50.520 You're doing very good work with that.

01:56:53.280 Thank you. I'm touched to hear that.

01:56:55.340 And you listeners at home, stay glorious.

01:57:05.260 Thank you.

01:57:35.260 We'll be right back.

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Anarchonomicon - August 20, 2026

Ep34 “On The Leafs” W⧸Dimes from Blood Sattelite

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