Anarchonomicon - October 27, 2026


Ep39, “Wotan” with John Carter

Ep38 “Which Way Western Man?” Part 7 (Nietzsche 2) w⧸Brynhildr

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00:00:00.000 Hello, glorious listeners.
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00:00:52.200 A deep, deep thank you to all of you who make this possible.
00:00:56.600 This would not exist without you.
00:00:58.060 they will chain you like prometheus to a rock
00:01:10.260 where the memory of your own greatness will gnaw you
00:01:28.060 me girl man, let me tell you about it man, when the sun and wrath is been round in our
00:01:34.920 world, in the edit where it's behind the anime girl, even when this old man is putting me
00:01:48.560 down, that edit makes me smile instead of frown, that edit makes me smile instead of
00:01:57.040 My day been rough, nothing but pain
00:02:01.080 Nothing has happened and my life is lame
00:02:04.340 No purpose, no meaning, nothing to rejoice
00:02:07.900 Forced to wage or go to school, it's not my choice
00:02:11.480 When me get home, up on the Twitter 0.92
00:02:14.680 Watching the edits about that white Hitler 0.95
00:02:18.160 My day it been so rough, oh it hurts so bad 0.94
00:02:21.260 But what makes me feel better is the sun and rag
00:02:25.080 And when the sun and rot, they spin round in our world
00:02:32.080 In the edit, where it's behind the anime girl
00:02:38.080 Even when this old man, they put it down
00:02:45.080 That edit makes me smile instead of frown
00:02:48.080 That edit makes me smile instead of frown
00:02:51.080 A frown, round and round it goes round and round
00:02:55.460 Spinning and whirling, I watch it abound
00:02:58.760 Nothing in the world, none of it matters to me
00:03:02.220 The sword and rod be spinning and make me happy
00:03:05.520 The sword and rod be spinning and make me happy
00:03:08.960 Once upon a time, there was a man
00:03:12.500 Heinrich Himmler from the good old Dutch land
00:03:16.060 He was designing a castle for him to defend
00:03:19.820 And inside he put a stone and rod
00:03:22.360 So he could spin and when the sun and rod
00:03:25.180 He spin round in our world
00:03:27.820 In the edit where it's behind the anime girl
00:03:34.520 Even when this old man be putting me down
00:03:42.200 That edit makes me smile instead of frown
00:03:46.400 That's it, it makes me smile instead of frown
00:04:16.400 all right i will take us off hello hello hello glorious listeners welcome to another exciting
00:04:26.480 episode of the anarcho-nomicon podcast i am joined by uh john carter mars say hello john
00:04:33.260 good to be here uh we are going to be discussing maybe the most
00:04:40.420 what are the most banned books i've found in terms of just like the raw value of the book
00:04:48.940 like used on amazon uh uh for those of you unaware real banned books aren't like uh
00:04:58.200 they're not the ones that you find like chapters in to go
00:05:03.040 like right at the front in the banned book section right like yeah they cost like thousands of
00:05:09.740 dollars in a used book store yeah exactly a thousand dollars on amazon the lid lid version
00:05:17.720 of a banned book is like some some school board somewhere had a problem with a swear word or
00:05:23.520 uh or a sex scene or something and had the book taken out of the school libraries and they're
00:05:29.500 like oh my god censorship it's a banned book right but the actual banned books are the books where
00:05:34.320 the north american rights holder the copyright holder um sits on it deliberately because they
00:05:40.480 don't want anyone reading it and it goes out of print oh no the real the real van books are the
00:05:46.180 copyright holder holder wants it to be republished and yet it like uh like the copyright gets bought
00:05:58.480 up by like a company that purposely sits on it as a way to censor a dead officer that's what exactly
00:06:04.860 i'm saying so you know an excellent example of that recently would be um camp of the saints
00:06:09.240 where like you know copies of that were going for hundreds of dollars just on on amazon just a few
00:06:13.960 years ago because whoever owned the north american rights to the french translation just refused to
00:06:19.120 publish this like horrible racist xenophobic you know hate tract right so then vaub and books had
00:06:26.420 to commission a new French translation 0.94
00:06:28.020 or a new English translation from the original
00:06:30.500 French in order
00:06:32.520 to have the rights to something that they could
00:06:34.420 publish and bring it to the market for
00:06:36.520 a very reasonable $20
00:06:38.360 or something.
00:06:39.840 Always include this clause in your contract
00:06:42.500 stereo. If you're involved in anything
00:06:44.420 creative, you have to have
00:06:46.360 a determination of
00:06:48.380 rights for non-use.
00:06:51.240 Yeah.
00:06:51.740 There has to be a maximum
00:06:54.540 extent of time that they cannot act on it that they they lose the rights to it i was actually
00:07:00.080 so i was looking a little bit more deeply into this like sort of broadly it's out of like just
00:07:03.400 like the purely political cultural aspect of it uh recently you remember that story a couple of
00:07:09.560 months ago when um you're digressing i i had this entire structure and totally digressing this is a
00:07:16.960 great digression though you're the you're the one invited me on uh you know like anthropic was like
00:07:21.360 you know chewing up like all of these books like destroying them to like feed
00:07:24.600 them into a just scan like for into an industrial scanner so that the reason
00:07:30.180 for AI training data and it turned out first of all the reason they were
00:07:33.840 destroying them was because that way there was only one copy from a physical
00:07:38.280 copy that they had bought at a you know store basically to a digital copy so all
00:07:45.720 you've done is transfer the copy and then they can't release the digital copy
00:07:49.260 online because that would be a copyright violation so it all has to stay locked
00:07:53.660 up so literally the copyright law created the environment for that mass
00:07:58.140 destruction of physical books and and yeah apparently it's basically
00:08:04.080 everything between about 1923 and the present is just missing so like all the
00:08:13.520 all these books like published like the 1930s and 40s and 50s like unless it was
00:08:17.520 like a major bestseller like they're just like gone because the the copyright holder it's still
00:08:23.140 under copyright rights holder doesn't want to publish it because there's no market for it
00:08:26.980 so it just sits there in the vault or sometimes they don't even know who owns the rights to it
00:08:32.360 and no one wants to take the risk of like you know publishing something that they don't own
00:08:36.820 the rights to and then the rights holder comes along and says that's mine you know so it's not
00:08:40.140 even always political is the point like it's just like this structure of copyright law itself is
00:08:44.440 like excised this huge crater in the literary legacy of the 20th century um sorry for the
00:08:55.440 digression no that that is a a good deep dive into the the start of it yes but uh the book we
00:09:05.120 are discussing today is i think it's even public domain now which is weird because there's published
00:09:12.060 in like the year 2000 but i think they just like purposely led selecting to public domain once they
00:09:17.600 made their money and the core author died so despite the fact that a physical copy now costs
00:09:23.660 like 1500 now costs thousands of dollars it's yeah it was like two thousand dollars on amazon
00:09:30.500 and i checked it earlier today i'd never i'd never heard at the moment and i'd never heard
00:09:36.700 so today we are discussing this is there are a few like red rosetta stones in like right-wing
00:09:49.800 thought where it's like that's the one work that connects these disparate traditions so like uh
00:09:57.880 one i always recommend uh if you're interested in the history of the 20th century is uh iron
00:10:04.480 curtain over america which is also up on on uh archive for free to read uh by uh colonel john
00:10:14.220 beaty who was writing in like 1953 about uh about the history of judaism in the democratic party in
00:10:22.360 america and how that that led up to world war ii and he wrote this in like 1951 53 and the first
00:10:31.660 page is just a list of like u.s flag officers praising like admirals and generals and he goes
00:10:40.240 into this exquisite detail he's a professor of eastern european languages uh about the history
00:10:47.740 of the teutonic knights and the causers you know the exact same speech that vladimir putin gave on
00:10:53.800 tucker uh john beattie's giving that exact speech in 1951 and then he just goes through every issue
00:11:00.460 that has become like the the like non-boomer right like everything of the like like distant
00:11:08.880 right sphere that like cares about uh you know the sovereignty of like nations uh he goes through
00:11:16.620 every single issue of that and had like five six editions in the 1950s and i completely disappeared
00:11:23.160 like it was one of the best sellers of the 1950s and i've just been like disappeared from public
00:11:28.200 memory and you read it and you realize this is like the rosetta stone this is the thing that
00:11:32.980 connects the old right to uh like like the post 60s far right that you like saw every issue coming
00:11:42.340 and talk about every issue and and that's the rosetta stone about the history aspect uh and
00:11:50.300 and we are not going to be discussing iron curtain over america today we're going to be discussing
00:11:56.300 again ron mcbann's temple wotan which is maybe the like fount from which agartha flows
00:12:05.140 like uh this is this book um so if i was to summarize like the the popular twitter conception
00:12:14.440 of like weird esoteric uh horse paganism mixed with like like a weird nazi hitlerism
00:12:24.420 and you know if you go to the south pole you'll be met by yakub and hitler and uh and hulk hogan 0.69
00:12:33.320 and john mcgaffey and they'll give you and charlie kirk yeah and they'll feed you the white monster
00:12:39.400 energy drink like where does that all come from uh so and everyone has this vague idea that like
00:12:45.760 like oh there's these like modern pagans who are reviving this thing from like the 1930s and 20s
00:12:52.720 that like there's the dual society and like Heimlich Himmler was into like Norse paganisms
00:12:58.160 and like Wagner fits into it and and you know you you have all these like little lights and data
00:13:07.560 points but uh it's like well how how the hell did you get from like Wagner in the 18 like 70s
00:13:14.720 You know, these weird pagans in Germany in the 1910s, the Nazis in the 1930s, the metalheads in the 80s, to now, you know, Charlie Kirk is feeding you the white monster in the South Pole.
00:13:29.680 you know these these are like wildly different times and places uh like even the 1980s to today
00:13:38.180 like like okay it's kind of related to metal why why don't they have big hair you know you know
00:13:47.240 none of this quite holds together and then you read this and you see it all hold together perfectly
00:13:53.300 And the actual characters interact with each other, like, knowingly and willingly, trying to will this, like, revival of Norse paganism mixed with, like, far-right politics into existence.
00:14:10.340 And that is what we are going to be discussing today.
00:14:12.700 specifically we are going to be discussing uh uh carl young's uh we're going to be discussing
00:14:23.220 carl young's essay wotan in which he talks about the one time he saw adolf hitler in person
00:14:31.600 and and you swore that he saw a the the god of norse mythology in his eyes
00:14:40.940 and that might sound insane to you and like like a non-sequitur wait how does this relate to curl
00:14:49.200 curl young and yet uh and yet this essay that young wrote uh in the 1930s
00:15:01.140 because yeah imagine at the time of the 1930s it wasn't it wasn't really like uh
00:15:08.860 like the esoteric paganism that like the chairmans were doing at the time like a
00:15:14.760 like a the the nazi state wasn't really endorsing it that explicitly or like it's like okay but
00:15:25.380 keep it quiet you know we don't want to be dealing with this and like you scaring the voter base
00:15:30.760 and like the general public because like contrary to popular belief uh and the nazis were very
00:15:38.320 keenly aware of public opinion uh they were very keenly aware that like uh they're like the core
00:15:44.200 of hitler's voter base was were women who were attracted to him and he they didn't want to spook
00:15:49.340 them but uh and those women were mostly like catholics or like lutherans or something you 0.99
00:15:55.180 know yeah yeah they're they were like normal country yeah german country women from like the
00:15:59.600 1930s they weren't into like and they're like esoteric like wotenism or or like you know 0.69
00:16:05.240 it's like oh yeah the ss can do that in a in castle wolfenstein or wherever but uh but keep 0.71
00:16:13.780 it quiet guys like was the attitude and and so how does that transform into like like the far
00:16:22.660 right that we have today today and this essay by Carl Jung who was like not part of the Nazi regime
00:16:30.900 at all like uh he was he was like a Viennese psychologist he was actually a student of
00:16:39.660 Sigmund Freud who like uh who broke with Freud and went off to do his own thing he writes
00:16:45.920 a he produces like basically what will become the metaphysics of like post 19 of like post
00:16:54.920 1950s paganism like uh the idea of like architect younging in archetypes and like the deep psychology
00:17:01.900 of like of um the deep psychology of the human mind and the recurring uh archetypes of the
00:17:10.560 of the spirit uh persisting through culture but also like uh within like blood memory all these
00:17:18.520 concepts date date to young and this is why you can honestly this is why you can have the pagan
00:17:26.500 revival because because suddenly all the questions of like well do you think thor actually physically
00:17:32.120 exists it is is like well that's kind of irrelevant uh you know in the most materials
00:17:41.660 conception like he's still very important for for like your culture and how your ethnicity
00:17:49.640 conceives itself and like like how you're supposed to actualize and how you relate to your ancestors
00:17:55.460 everything else like uh like you can say oh this is the atheist recreating religion without belief
00:18:02.940 but it's like well if he's that important like uh if the gods are that important even a purely
00:18:10.420 materialistic sense as soon as you assume like there's some spiritual reality whatsoever it's
00:18:15.140 like oh obviously these are very very important you know you know either either the like
00:18:22.980 like either the christians are right and they're demons or they are the like embodiment of your
00:18:29.140 your ancestors and like the continuity of your people and and so this
00:18:38.460 this metaphysics that young comes up with kind of resolves a lot of the the problems with like uh
00:18:47.100 having a paganism in the 20th, 20th century. And from, and more importantly, this one essay he
00:18:59.160 writes about Adolf Hitler, um, and it becomes a basis of like, of the far right pagan revival
00:19:08.220 in america in the 1980s and we are going to see this uh
00:19:13.700 as so ron mcmahon's temple wotan who is ron mcmahon uh so ron mcmahon uh this this work i'm
00:19:25.120 just reading to the front it's a co-ed co-edited by patia lane who is katia lane patia lane is
00:19:35.920 the wife of david lane uh the terrorist from the order uh or uh the silent brotherhood depending
00:19:44.520 on how much of a stickler from name jar uh so the order was a the started by bob matthews
00:19:52.380 in the 1980s was a group inspired by uh william luther pierce and the broader far-right milieu
00:20:00.740 of the 1970s that they tried to basically start a direct, like, guerrilla war against the U.S.
00:20:12.000 government. Like, they were knocking off armored tars and robbing pornography stores and building
00:20:21.140 this, like, criminal empire through armed robbery that was actually going quite successfully in the
00:20:27.420 pacific northwest in the 1980s there's a film version of this uh starring nicola nicolas holt
00:20:34.160 as uh bob matthews called the order from like 2005 i'll include in the show notes oh yeah i
00:20:40.700 watched that years ago the whole that documentary that was um some very interesting stuff
00:20:46.440 yeah the documentary uh i'm talking about the drama movie there's a documentary okay i didn't
00:20:54.500 realize that there was a drama movie made about it yeah the it it has jude law is the angry drunken 0.98
00:21:00.380 uh fbi agent who went after them which apparently that was like playing down how much of an asshole 0.94
00:21:05.980 the actual fbi agent was like this is what his colleagues were saying about him like they 0.92
00:21:10.460 the documentary is also worth watching um it uh do you remember the title of the documentary
00:21:17.800 no it was i found it on youtube back in like probably 2017 or 2018 or something yeah it's
00:21:25.420 almost the book is the silent brotherhood which i'm working my way through
00:21:29.180 no i mean they in the documentary they interview uh i forget the guy's name not bob matthews
00:21:37.680 obviously because he was dead uh but um one of the one of the guys in the order that was
00:21:43.820 you know captured and arrested and is still in jail i think to this day uh because they locked
00:21:50.060 them all up for life right threw away the key and they're interviewing him and this guy like
00:21:55.060 his conviction has not wavered like he has the light of true fanaticism that might have been
00:22:02.340 david lane that they were interviewing oh maybe it was maybe it was yeah yeah i wouldn't surprise
00:22:07.240 So David Lane goes to prison, and the thing is, the money, this is the, part of this is getting into urban legend territory, but the conspiracy, the theory is, and this is the just-so story that white nationals and memers tell their kids on, this is the stuff that's said on 4chan late at night, is that the millions of dollars they stole were never found.
00:22:37.140 And David Lane, the guy who was most likely to have had the money, was an arch-turb believer, and he was in prison for life.
00:22:45.200 So what does he do next?
00:22:48.100 He gave it to where he lived with his.
00:22:53.420 So there's that theory, but there's also the white nationalists all have a first-mover advantage on the Internet from the start.
00:23:02.740 like uh they have websites when a website is a very hard thing to have
00:23:07.460 and true storm a long time ago wasn't it yeah so the theory is that these millions of dollars
00:23:16.260 they poured back in to internet messaging and that's why the internet is far right to this day
00:23:22.440 is because it's because bob matthew died to make frogs on the internet uh you know i was i was
00:23:30.820 already run into this stuff like back and like yeah the 90s um yeah it wouldn't surprise me i
00:23:36.080 mean like and it was already there i my sort of guess is that the money they got from knocking
00:23:41.700 over that armored car they just kind of spread it around like i like you know william luther
00:23:46.380 pierce somehow came into like a million bucks um you know bought a ranch starts a record label like
00:23:53.880 i'm sure that was not the idea of william winter pierce running a record label is hilarious oh
00:24:02.180 it's so funny um but i mean he's a man with a lisp but i mean he basically ended up being like
00:24:08.200 single-handedly responsible for most of the skinhead music scene back in the 1990s right
00:24:12.200 um right right it was huge uh uh i'm i'm sure that was not the only venture that that uh that
00:24:20.560 capital got put into so so this is the thing so david lane his wife kitch
00:24:27.400 good job kajita lane uh she's she's free and
00:24:33.300 let me just check them pronouncing that right uh katya lane uh
00:24:41.400 uh-huh yeah k-a-t-j-a katya katya it's katya oh i i'm not uh sorry uh uh skyrim has fried my
00:24:57.540 brain but uh she's but all these figures that were like very tightly associated with uh the order
00:25:06.120 uh they they immediately afterwards they all convert to norse paganism and they all start
00:25:15.780 sort of pushing paganism as the uh is the next is the thing that they need to do part of this
00:25:23.420 is william mutter pierce himself and uh and uh well he had his own thing william gailey simpson
00:25:30.380 who i'm doing on the other podcast series i think was his he's trying to start an entirely new
00:25:36.920 religion yeah so um so william luther pierce had abandoned christianity william gailey simpson who
00:25:47.360 were covering with bernhilder in uh the other series series uh she uh the which way west man
00:25:56.440 series uh he had like left um william j lee simpson had left uh being a wandering franciscan
00:26:06.280 monk and become like an arch Nietzschean so so at this exact moment like in the aftermath of like
00:26:15.440 bob matthew's glorious immolation in a house being burned alive by the fbi in in the pacific
00:26:23.360 northwest um in the aftermath of this they had money time and like a bunch of guys in prison
00:26:31.060 with nothing else to do who just decided we are going to recreate norse paganism as a strictly
00:26:38.300 white nationalist religion uh reamed and at the center of this like how do you how do you take
00:26:47.740 the Norse cosmology and and merge it with like a 20th century uh white nationalism like uh how do
00:26:57.000 you do that metaphysically in a way that's not just like oh yeah these are both things we like
00:27:01.660 at the center of it is this essay Wotan by Carl Jung and you get a feel for for how close they
00:27:11.320 were to the actual youngians uh i'm going to start with the forward written by michael
00:27:17.020 miguel serrano oh yeah who was a a close acolyte of young and like actually
00:27:25.800 knew him well so i'm going to start with so you are going to so this is like i tried to make that
00:27:35.600 all sound is coherent and historical why not but basically what you're what this what this podcast
00:27:43.760 is dear reader is we're going to discover the origins of esoteric pagan hitlerism via carl
00:27:52.760 young that gets us to our gartha we we are tracking this down we are finding the fount of hyperborea
00:27:59.440 we are we are i am showing you how deep the rabbit hole goes in this like unity of unities
00:28:07.040 and and so i'll start with the forward to uh temple wotan uh i will then
00:28:16.040 skip ahead past like all the norse pay pagan stuff which is all interesting but like uh
00:28:23.460 But, like, separate from this essential piece I want to show you, we're going to go through the forward, then the introduction to the essay, and then we're going to actually read Carl Jung's Wotan.
00:28:39.200 and and from this i i hope you'll see just how like ready made this weird internet like meme
00:28:51.280 subculture was and how every every time uh charlie kirk and yakub and and the gods and agartha
00:29:03.000 offer the white monster uh it's actually meaning for the uh woe tan himself in the form of adolf
00:29:12.180 hitler that is the most strange sentence i've ever spoken in my life but this is the world we live in 0.68
00:29:21.080 now we live in uh we live in ron mcmahon and david lane's world and it's all coming forth
00:29:29.240 the memes are summoning it. So, John, do you have anything to say before I dive in?
00:29:35.600 Nah, man. Go for it.
00:29:37.500 All right. You're here for this ride.
00:29:40.600 All right. So, forward. Wotan, Lord of Hosts.
00:29:45.760 C.G. Young affirmed that Wotan was the god of lightning, the stormbringer. Wotan is more
00:29:52.400 than that. He is also the god of poetry, love, and war. Without a doubt... Oh, quick
00:29:59.180 aside, Wotan is the same god as Odin. And the religion that these people came up with is called
00:30:06.260 Wotan's Volk. That's their branch of Norse paganism, if you want to look it up on the
00:30:14.540 internet or whatnot. This is this amazing anthropology. Anyway, so C.G. Young affirmed
00:30:20.720 that Wotan was the god of lightning, the storm bringer. But Wotan is more than that. He's also
00:30:26.200 the god of poetry love and war without a doubt whatsoever the god of the christians who has
00:30:32.140 come to replace wotan impersonating him is no more than a poor imitation one cannot even say
00:30:38.460 that this christian counterfeit is a reincarnation of the archetype but rather he is wotan's executioner
00:30:45.500 It was from the Eremsel at Eternestin, the ancient megalithian monument in Horn, Germany,
00:30:55.880 that the followers of the destroyer Charlemagne appropriated the symbol of the cross and concocted the crucifixion of Christ.
00:31:03.960 Indeed, it was already Wotan who historically donned the titles Lord of Hosts and God of Love.
00:31:10.320 the mythical death and resurrection in the flesh on the third day correspondingly are plagiarisms
00:31:19.120 of the resurrection of wotan on the ninth day on earned on the earned soul cross having recovered
00:31:27.060 the runic futhark which had had been lost in the paradise of hyperborea thus enabled him to deliver
00:31:34.320 the new word in dispensation 0.82
00:31:36.220 to the fallen Aryans,
00:31:38.380 who were momentarily oblivious
00:31:40.040 to their divine origin.
00:31:42.300 There are the ex...
00:31:43.320 There at the extern...
00:31:45.660 At the extern steam
00:31:47.760 is found the stone
00:31:49.980 sepulchre of the mystical 1.00
00:31:52.020 death, replicating with Hyperborean
00:31:54.140 resurrection of the
00:31:55.320 initiate. Further, it was there
00:31:58.340 whither the Odenic priestess... 1.00
00:32:00.840 Priestesses, the 1.00
00:32:01.980 Valkyries, came to gather Wotin's
00:32:04.200 slain warriors to ensure their immortality and life eternal.
00:32:08.380 This entire glorious path of the initiate, 0.51
00:32:10.740 to be destined to a caste, to an erring elite, 0.99
00:32:14.320 vanished with the destruction and conversion of the Saxons to Christianity, 0.93
00:32:19.060 or rather perfidious Christianized Wotanism, 0.92
00:32:22.260 derailed by the well-planned and all-pervasive Jewish deception of Saul, 0.82
00:32:27.540 St. Paul of Tarsus. 0.84
00:32:29.180 It was the German Schittstafel who, one way or another, without the need to declare it, caused the resurrection of the path of the externeen. 0.89
00:32:40.200 The Schittstafel, that's the SS rest, right? 0.81
00:32:45.360 John? John? John?
00:32:46.780 That's correct. Yeah.
00:32:48.000 Yeah. Yeah. I want to make sure I got that.
00:32:51.900 I highlighted that.
00:32:53.200 Yes, it was the German Stichstapel who, one way or another, without the need to declare,
00:33:00.240 as the resurgence of the path of the Externstein, the great spear extended from Webelberg to the
00:33:07.120 sacred stones of Westphalia, symbolizing the route of return. In the great gathering hall
00:33:13.400 in this castle of Amherstaff, initiation where the symbol of the black sun was inlaid in the floor,
00:33:20.900 they are hung from the ceiling in suspended animation over one of the portals,
00:33:25.860 a great stone from the legendary temple of the externs, Turnstein.
00:33:30.820 At the end of time, our bulk leader will return for the wild hunt. 0.89
00:33:35.700 With his final battalion, a Shrida Whitehorse sleep near his eight-legged steed. 0.98
00:33:42.180 He will be the last avatar, also known as Wotan and Biznakauki. 0.98
00:33:47.960 This time, he'll come to conquer.
00:33:50.900 and to judge so that was michael sereno in uh baspa it's probably so chilly and he dates
00:34:00.260 this forward that he wrote to the book uh 20 april 11th uh it's like valparaiso
00:34:08.980 valparaiso chile valparaiso
00:34:13.780 i i will let you have the final word on that pronunciation
00:34:20.900 but uh i want to highlight he dates this forward to temple wotan 20 april 111 uh what what calendar
00:34:30.680 starts 111 can you guess which year this is published on uh sorry so he dated this year 111
00:34:38.940 so he's not dating from wait no it wouldn't have been i i will flip back and i will look
00:34:46.740 at the
00:34:47.700 copyright, the year
00:34:50.860 2000. Why is he saying
00:34:52.880 111? Who
00:34:54.840 was born in
00:34:56.320 1889?
00:34:59.640 Was it
00:34:59.880 the Austrian painter? Yes.
00:35:03.520 And it was specifically
00:35:04.520 April 2420.
00:35:07.740 Miguel Serrano
00:35:08.780 is well known for being an
00:35:10.660 esoteric Hitlerist. He's up there with 0.98
00:35:12.640 what was
00:35:14.740 her name? Lightning in the sun
00:35:16.620 woman uh
00:35:17.900 yes thank you
00:35:21.100 yes yes
00:35:21.980 her work like does not feature
00:35:24.800 hardly at all in this she was not
00:35:26.780 in just in the north's pantheon
00:35:28.420 at all which is no
00:35:30.400 she was she was all deep into like the
00:35:32.600 the vedic stuff um yeah she's
00:35:34.700 deep into the vedic and uh
00:35:36.900 she was
00:35:38.340 aknoten
00:35:40.860 appears law in her work which i'm like
00:35:42.880 yes like her and
00:35:44.520 Philip Glass are the only people
00:35:46.720 I know who...
00:35:48.040 Lightning and the Sun is basically her 0.95
00:35:50.880 spurging out for hundreds
00:35:52.580 of pages about how awesome Akhenaten
00:35:54.700 and Genghis Khan
00:35:56.980 were and how
00:35:58.760 Hitler was
00:36:00.800 the combination of the 0.97
00:36:02.740 two of them simultaneously,
00:36:05.180 the lightning and the sun.
00:36:07.480 At least I think that was about...
00:36:09.020 I got about halfway through before I
00:36:10.680 sort of lost interest, to be honest.
00:36:12.680 She started to ramble after a bit.
00:36:15.560 Yes, Aknoten, by the way, it's actually, like, I'm not a filled glass person, but I like Aknoten the opera.
00:36:24.020 Like, if that was playing near me, I would go and see Aknoten in person.
00:36:28.940 That is a good opera.
00:36:31.140 Hmm.
00:36:33.060 That my two cents on a subject I know very well about.
00:36:36.600 But that should give you a feel what we're in for.
00:36:42.680 That's the introduction.
00:36:44.660 That's letting you in softly to what we're discussing right now.
00:36:51.560 That's the sales pitch, you know, for people who are wondering what all this is about.
00:36:58.060 So we are skipping ahead 174 pages, specifically to the Carl Jung stuff.
00:37:05.440 So this is what Ron McMahon has to say about Miguel Sereno as part of his intro.
00:37:12.680 Introduction to Miguel's Introduction to Carl Jung
00:37:15.500 The Hermetic Circle, Miguel Cerrado
00:37:19.280 Personal friend of Carl Jung, mystic poet and philosopher of 20th century Wotanism,
00:37:26.340 Miguel Cerrado, late as associated with Carl Jung in his book C.G. Jung and Hermann Hess,
00:37:33.420 A Record of Two Friendships.
00:37:35.420 This 1966 publication was originally titled Circulo Hermetico,
00:37:39.920 as Serrano belonged to Young's inner circle of Aryan thinkers.
00:37:44.660 An international diplomat through the 1950s and 1960s,
00:37:48.760 Serrano served as Chile's ambassador to India, Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria, and Austria.
00:37:55.080 His 1947 voyage to Antarctica, where a mountain was named in his honor,
00:38:00.620 as well as the decades he has devoted to Areosophic research in Tibet, the Himalayas,
00:38:05.860 Stonehenge, Dijksternin, and the Andes Mountains had distinguished Serrano as a preeminent
00:38:15.080 proponent of the resurgence of Aryan Wotanism in the modern times.
00:38:20.960 Serrano's dedication to his great ideals has been memorialized by his life works. 0.97
00:38:27.140 In commemoration of his friend Ezra Pound, Serrano promoted the erection of the only
00:38:33.160 existing monument dedicated to this persecuted poet of noble Aryan pursuit, which can be found
00:38:38.940 in Medinaceli, Spain. Additionally, Serrano has written over 40 books documenting his adventures
00:38:46.620 and imparting his wisdom for future generations of the Aryan elite. These titles have been
00:38:52.820 translated into at least a dozen languages and stand as a testament to the spirit and will of
00:38:59.220 one man's quest for truth, mystical and political truth, in a time of turmoil and great destruction
00:39:05.320 of our culture and spiritual heritage. In Circulo Hermetico, Serrano recalls many of his frequent
00:39:11.760 visits with Jung and shares with us this personal letter from him dated 14th September 1960,
00:39:18.060 Exerted. When, for instance, the belief in the god Wotan vanished and nobody thought of him
00:39:24.540 anymore. The phenomenon originally called Wotan remained. Nothing changed but its name, as national
00:39:31.120 socialism has demonstrated on a grand scale. A collective movement consists of millions of
00:39:36.320 individuals, each of whom shows the symptoms of Wotanism and proves thereby that Wotan in reality
00:39:42.780 never died, but has retained his original vitality and autonomy. Our consciousness only imagines that 0.75
00:39:49.720 it has lost its gods, but in reality they are still there and it only needs a certain general
00:39:55.360 condition in order to bring them back in full force. This condition is a situation in which
00:40:00.920 a new orientation and adaptation is needed. If this question is not clearly understood and no
00:40:06.920 proper answer given, the archetype which expresses this situation steps in and brings back the
00:40:13.900 reaction, which has always characterized such times. In this case, Wotan. The fact that an
00:40:21.260 archaic god formulates and expresses the dominant of our behavior means that we ought to find
00:40:27.320 a new religious attitude, a new realization of our dependence upon superior dominance.
00:40:33.000 I do not know how this could be possible without a renewed self-understanding of man,
00:40:37.640 which unavoidably has to be in with the individual. We have the means to compare man with the other
00:40:42.740 psychic animalia, and to give him a new definition, we can see him in a new setting with
00:40:50.580 throes and objectable light upon his existence, namely as a being, operated and maneuvered
00:40:57.840 by archetypal forces instead of his free will, that is, his arbitrary egoism and his
00:41:04.320 limbic consciousness.
00:41:05.960 He should learn that he is not the master in his own house, and that he should carefully
00:41:10.100 study the other side of his psychic psychical world which seems to be the true ruler of his
00:41:17.520 fate i know this is merely a pious wish the fulfillment of which demands century but in each
00:41:24.800 aeon there are at least a few individuals who understand that man's real task consists of and
00:41:30.800 keeps its tradition for future generations at a time when its insight has reached a deeper and
00:41:36.980 more general level. First, the wave of a few will be changed and in a new generation there will be
00:41:48.360 more. It is most likely that the general mind within this or even in the next generation will
00:41:53.600 undergo a noticeable change. As present, man seems to be quite incapable of realizing that under a
00:41:59.840 certain aspect he is a stranger to himself. But whoever is capable of such insight, no matter how
00:42:05.620 isolated he is to beware of the law of synchronicity. As the old Chinese saying goes,
00:42:11.240 the right man sitting in his house and thinking the right thought will be heard a hundred miles
00:42:16.220 distant. Neither propaganda nor exhibitionist confessions are needed. If the archetype which
00:42:23.120 is universal, i.e. identical with itself, always in anywhere, is properly dealt with in one place,
00:42:29.260 only it is influenced as a whole i.e. simultaneously and everywhere thus an old alchemist gave the
00:42:37.240 falling consolation to one of his disciples no matter how isolated you are and how lonely you
00:42:42.920 feel if you do your work truly and consciously unknown friends will come and seek you it seems
00:42:50.240 to me that nothing essential has ever been lost because its matrix is ever present with us
00:42:55.660 and from this it can and will be reproduced if needed but those can recover it but those can
00:43:02.900 recover it who have learned the art of averting their eyes from the blinding light of current
00:43:07.720 opinions and close their ears to the noise of ephemeral slogans you rightly say with him
00:43:14.220 motelui the dutch with moltetuli the dutch philosopher nothing is quite true and should
00:43:24.460 to add with him, and even this is not quite sure. The intellect can make its profound statement
00:43:30.540 that there is no absolute truth, but if somebody loses his money, his money is lost, and this is
00:43:36.240 as good as an absolute truth, which means that he will not be consoled by the intellect like
00:43:41.960 profundity. There is a thing like convincing truth, but we have lost sight of it, owing mostly
00:43:49.820 to our gambly intellect, to which we sacrifice our moral certainty and gain thereby nothing
00:43:55.780 but an inferiority complex, which, by the way, characterizes Western politics.
00:44:03.820 As an aside, that is an amazing little insight that by sacrificing our moral certainty, we've
00:44:15.560 only engaged in an inferiority complex ah hold that thought to be is to do and to make but as
00:44:28.440 our existence does not depend solely upon our ego will thus our doing and making depends largely
00:44:34.440 upon the dominant of the unconscious i'm not only willing out of my ego but i am also made to be
00:44:41.400 creative and active to be quiet is only good for someone who has been too too or perversely active
00:44:48.920 otherwise it is a natural artifice which unnecessarily interferes without nature
00:44:55.860 we grow up we blossom and we wilt and death is ultimate quietude or so it seems but much depends
00:45:03.120 upon the spirit i.e. the meaning or significance in which we do and make or in other words we live
00:45:09.560 This spirit expresses itself or manifests itself in a truth which is indubitably and absolutely convincing to the whole my being in spite of the fact that the intellect in its endless ramblings will continue forever with its but-ifs, which, however, should not be suppressed, but rather be welcomed as occasion to improve your truth.
00:45:33.900 In a letter to Jung, which glistens eerily prophetic with today's hindsight, Sereno concludes,
00:45:39.920 It is even possible that your work and mine will yield fruit in someone who is yet to be born.
00:45:47.940 The work of today is harvested tomorrow, and it is also possible that that person who is to be born somewhere in the future will also be one of us again.
00:45:57.520 Even so, since time is an illusion, our work produces instantaneous results.
00:46:05.340 It is proper and necessary that contemporary loneliness understand the origins of Wotan consciousness
00:46:10.840 and the roots of its modern resurgence,
00:46:13.660 only by being firmly secured in the hero, historical foundation of our ethnic spirituality.
00:46:21.600 Only by being firmly secured, this is McManigan,
00:46:25.220 Only by being firmly secured in the historical foundation of our ethnic spirituality
00:46:29.880 can there be hope for a future, a realization of the 14 words. 0.98
00:46:34.360 We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. 0.93
00:46:39.680 And there then follows an illustration of Carl Jung chopping wood in the 1950s. 1.00
00:46:52.560 Let's see here.
00:46:53.720 So, C.G. Young, his essay on Wotan with a preface by Serena.
00:47:05.740 Preface to the Essays on Contemporary Bench, originally published in the...
00:47:10.680 Do you mind if I jump in?
00:47:12.840 Go ahead. This is Perk Spot.
00:47:15.540 Cool.
00:47:17.020 All right, so this is the, yeah, the preface to the essay on Wotan.
00:47:20.600 This is by Serena?
00:47:22.160 Yes.
00:47:22.640 I was trying to look for the authorship of it. The book itself doesn't stay.
00:47:29.800 Medical psychotherapy, for practical reasons, has to deal with the whole of the psyche.
00:47:33.900 Therefore, it is bound to come to terms with all of those factors, biological as well as social and mental, which have a vital influence on psychic life.
00:47:42.520 We are living in times of great disruption.
00:47:45.100 Political passions are aflame.
00:47:46.800 Internal upheavals have brought nations to the brink of chaos, and the very foundations of our Wilton John are shattered.
00:47:52.640 this critical state of things has such a tremendous influence on the psychic life of the individual that the doctor must follow its effects with more than usual attention the storm of events does not sweep down upon him only from the great world outside he feels the violence of its impact even in the quiet of his consulting room and the privacy of the medical consultation
00:48:11.820 As he has a responsibility towards his patients, he cannot afford to withdraw to the peaceful island of undisturbed scientific work,
00:48:19.220 but must constantly descend into the arena of world events in order to join in the battle of conflicting passions and opinions.
00:48:26.540 Were he to remain aloof from the tumult, the calamity of his time would reach him only from afar,
00:48:33.760 and his patient suffering would find neither ear nor understanding.
00:48:38.540 He would be at a loss to know how to talk to him.
00:48:41.820 and to help him out of his isolation. For this reason, the psychologist cannot avoid coming to
00:48:47.940 grips with contemporary history, even if his very soul shrinks from the political uproar,
00:48:53.760 the lying propaganda, and the jarring speeches of the demagogues. We need not mention his duties
00:49:00.340 as a citizen, which confront him with a similar task. As a physician, he's a higher obligation
00:49:06.480 to humanity in this respect. From time to time, therefore, I felt obliged to step beyond the usual
00:49:13.300 bounds of my profession. The experience of the psychologist is of a rather special kind,
00:49:18.820 and it seemed to me that the general public might find it useful to hear his point of view.
00:49:23.920 This was hardly a far-fetched conclusion, for surely the most naive of laymen could not fail
00:49:29.840 to see that many contemporary figures and events were positively asking for psychological
00:49:34.720 elucidation? Were psychopathic symptoms ever more conspicuous than in the contemporary political
00:49:41.180 scene? It has never been my wish to meddle in the political questions of the day, but in the course
00:49:48.020 of the years I have written a few papers which give my reactions to current events. The present
00:49:54.820 book contains a collection of these original essays, all written between 1936 and 1946. It is
00:50:04.040 natural enough that my thoughts should have been especially concerned with Germany, which had been
00:50:08.660 a problem to me ever since the First World War. My statements have evidently led to all manner of
00:50:15.320 misunderstandings, which are chiefly due, no doubt, to the fact that my psychological point of view
00:50:20.240 strikes many people as new and therefore strange. Instead of embarking upon lengthy arguments in an
00:50:26.000 attempt to clear up these misunderstandings, I have found it simpler to collect all the passages
00:50:30.820 in my other writings which deal with the same theme
00:50:32.980 and to put them in an epilogue.
00:50:35.360 The reader will thus be in a position
00:50:36.780 to get a clear picture of the facts for himself.
00:50:39.540 So, yeah, after reading that,
00:50:41.400 I'm pretty sure that was not Serrano.
00:50:42.820 Yeah, that's young.
00:50:44.280 Yeah.
00:50:45.900 So this is actually like,
00:50:49.160 you might wonder why if we're reading an essay,
00:50:51.940 are we reading like three essays in a row about that essay?
00:50:56.200 And the reason, dear reader,
00:50:58.180 is because this is the only like,
00:51:00.820 this is the book where i could find uh wo tan the essay by young published which is
00:51:08.900 which is like ironic because this book itself is like somewhat disappeared but like the only people
00:51:15.460 who have thought to academically study uh curl young's book and to include like his original
00:51:22.580 his uh 1940s forward even in the republishing of the essay are these like weird are these uh
00:51:34.380 woe tennis neo-nazis from like the 1990s half of whom were in prison like they did all this research
00:51:41.880 half of them in prison to properly appreciate call you and that to track down uh serrano to
00:51:49.700 write the foreword for their book and to appreciate them and network with them and
00:51:57.540 famously the the uh most prominent Jungian in uh in current popular culture
00:52:07.500 uh who talks about Hitler all the time uh uh Jordan Peterson he is a Jungian psychologist
00:52:15.920 who talks about Hitler and the Nazis all the time,
00:52:18.580 he has never talked about Carl Jung's essay, Wotan,
00:52:23.400 despite the fact that it has had this massive impact.
00:52:26.980 You know, I even had a meme.
00:52:31.260 Oh, have you ever heard,
00:52:33.340 in your time studying young Padawan,
00:52:38.240 have you ever heard of the tragedy of Wotan the Wise?
00:52:45.920 of course not
00:52:47.860 oh no you wouldn't have
00:52:50.360 it's not a story
00:52:52.300 the Peterson Sonians would tell
00:52:54.440 it is a European legend
00:52:56.360 that's sort of
00:52:58.460 like how he's a big
00:53:00.380 fan of Solzhenitsyn but he
00:53:02.280 is not going to read
00:53:04.480 or talk about
00:53:05.980 200 years together
00:53:07.660 but other guests
00:53:10.340 on the podcast
00:53:11.280 Pete Quinonez who is
00:53:14.340 who is an amazing follower he he finished his uh read through with uh i i'm blanking on the name
00:53:23.200 he has this wonderful uh professor of eastern european languages who they did like a full
00:53:28.680 read through like this but of all of 200 years together which is massive book and it's like
00:53:34.500 like yeah you'll never hear a word about that from john fearson someone asked him about
00:53:39.600 about 200 years together at uh an event yeah and he said yes yeah back no yeah 2016 2017 or
00:53:52.280 something yeah someone in the audience was like hey like what about what about this book you know
00:53:57.800 and peterson like you know walks around on stage kind of wanders around and hums and haws for like
00:54:03.040 a while you know and then he finally is like i can't do it and and it was it was very revealing
00:54:10.560 You could tell he was really trying to think his way through it.
00:54:13.420 Like, he gave it the honest try inside.
00:54:17.020 Is there a way I can talk about this without destroying myself?
00:54:20.240 And the answer was no.
00:54:22.460 On the way.
00:54:23.300 He was at least honest about that, you know.
00:54:26.960 Funnily, the other most prominent fan of Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
00:54:33.720 And this is...
00:54:35.960 I can't call one Solzhenitsyn
00:54:38.760 one Manolo Prize but he
00:54:40.060 this is in the 2000s he was
00:54:41.880 prominently praising Solzhenitsyn
00:54:44.220 and like have read all his works
00:54:45.860 guess who
00:54:47.000 Vladimir Putin
00:54:51.300 he's a huge
00:54:54.080 Solzhenitsyn fan
00:54:55.240 which again this always 0.89
00:54:58.200 Putin
00:54:59.980 for those of you who don't know in Russia is
00:55:02.080 considered like kind of
00:55:04.140 kind of a wimpy like boomer liberal but they respect him because like he did a lot of tough
00:55:09.520 tough stuff and he managed to like navigate russia out of like like the misery there in the 90s so
00:55:16.920 like he gets a lot of cred but he's but he like simultaneously like knows all the like the history
00:55:25.420 of russia in detail and has this like orthodox take but like that's that's the actual like
00:55:32.600 everyone's like oh Alexander Dugan is Putin's brainer Ivanovich Ilin it's like I imagine he's
00:55:39.440 probably red Ilin but uh but no that's the reason they have to say all that is because they can't
00:55:45.560 say the real intellectual that Putin like takes most of his influences from which is Solzhenitsyn
00:55:51.380 it's just all Solzhenitsyn's work not uh not uh not selectively you know a characterization of
00:56:01.140 Yeah, well, I mean, Solzhenitsyn, Solzhenitsyn is an awkward, awkward figure for Western intellectuals, right?
00:56:09.280 Because...
00:56:09.660 They gave him the Nobel Prize.
00:56:10.940 They gave him the Nobel Prize, exactly. 0.66
00:56:14.080 And then, like, they realized afterwards, they're like, oh, wait, this guy's, like, basically a fascist and an anti-Semite? 0.99
00:56:20.440 And, like, they're like, shit, like, what do we do now, you know? 0.99
00:56:22.920 Yeah, and, like, is a, like, Russian Orthodox traditionalist in exactly the way that the Western elite hate. 1.00
00:56:31.140 But yes, no, that is a huge digression.
00:56:35.760 So this is the Jungian stuff that the Pearsonians don't want you to know.
00:56:40.240 We're finally at it.
00:56:41.280 We're finally at it.
00:56:43.400 So the essay starts, I just want to make sure you don't miss this, with the Nostradamus prophecy.
00:56:49.620 Yes, I will read this section.
00:56:54.280 I didn't invite you on to read it before we can.
00:56:59.040 At least not this section.
00:57:00.440 You can read it.
00:57:01.140 read other sections i'm fine with that but uh in germany diverse sex arise coming very near to
00:57:09.480 happy paganism the heart captivated and small receivings shall open open the gate to pay the
00:57:17.300 true tithe and that's prophecies um of master michelle nostradamus 1555 uh so woe tan by carl
00:57:30.780 young. When we look back at the time before 1914, we find ourselves living in a world of events
00:57:37.900 which would have been inconceivable before the war. And just for references in 1936,
00:57:47.040 when we look back at the time before 1914, we find ourselves living in a world of events
00:57:52.600 which would have been inconceivable before the war. We were even beginning to regard war between
00:57:59.120 civilized nations as a fable, thinking that such an absurdity would become less and less
00:58:05.580 possible in our rational, internationally organized world. And what came after the war
00:58:11.140 was a variable witch's Sabbath. Everywhere, fantastic revolutions, violent alterations of
00:58:17.620 the map, revisions in politics to medieval or even antique prototypes, totalitarian states that
00:58:24.280 engulf their neighbors and outdo all previous theocracies in their absolutist claims.
00:58:30.460 Persecutions of Christians and Jews, wholesale political murder, and finally we have witnessed
00:58:36.420 a light-hearted piratical raid on a peaceful half-civilized people. With such goings-on in
00:58:43.480 the wide world, that piratical raid, I'm pretty sure, is a reference to the Italian invasion of
00:58:51.220 Ethiopia, which had just happened. With such goings on in the wide world, it is not the least
00:58:59.940 surprising that there should be equally curious manifestations on a smaller scale in other
00:59:06.580 spheres. In the realm of philosophy, we shall have to wait some time before anyone is able to assess
00:59:14.380 the kind of age we are living in. But in the sphere of religion, we can see at once that some
00:59:20.120 very significant things have been happening. We need feel no surprise that Russia, the colorful
00:59:26.660 splendor of the Eastern Orthodox Church, has been superseded by the movement of the godless. 0.99
00:59:34.140 Indeed, one breathed a sigh of relief oneself when one emerged from the haze of an Orthodox Church 0.86
00:59:39.240 with its multitude of lamps and entered an honest mosque, where the sublime and invisible omnipresence 0.56
00:59:46.000 of God was not crowded out by the superfluity of sacred paraphernalia. Tasteless and pitiably, 1.00
00:59:52.880 unintelligent as it is, and however deplorable the low spiritual level of the scientific reaction, 0.99
00:59:59.000 it was inevitable that the 19th century scientific enlightenment should one day dawn in Russia. 0.96
01:00:06.780 And yes, there are scare quotes around scientific there, just so you blister that, I'll appreciate
01:00:13.060 the the irony to it but what is more than curious indeed piquant to a degree is that an ancient god
01:00:22.000 of storm and frenzy the long quiescent wotan should awake like an extinct volcano to new
01:00:29.520 activity in a civilized country that had long been supposed to have outgrown the middle ages
01:00:34.420 we have seen him come to light in the german youth movement and right at the beginning of
01:00:40.020 the blood of several sheep was shed in honor of his resurrection.
01:00:47.020 Armed with rucksack and lute,
01:00:49.140 blonde ewes and sometimes girls as well,
01:00:52.100 were to be seen as restless wanderers on every row from the North Cape to Sicily,
01:00:57.860 faithful votaries of the roving god.
01:01:00.540 Later, towards the end of the Weimar Republic,
01:01:02.500 the wandering role was taken over by thousands of unemployed
01:01:06.640 who were to be met with everywhere on their aimless journeys. 0.69
01:01:12.240 By 1933, they wandered no longer, but marched in their hundreds of thousands. 0.81
01:01:17.720 The Hitler movement literally brought the whole of Germany to its feet, 0.90
01:01:21.280 from five-year-olds to veterans, 0.91
01:01:23.820 and produced a spectacle of a nation miring from one place to another.
01:01:28.660 Wotan the Wanderer was on the move.
01:01:31.260 He could be seen looking rather shamefaced.
01:01:33.720 in the meeting house of a sect of simple folk in North Germany,
01:01:38.340 disguised as Christ sitting on a white horse.
01:01:42.120 I do not know if these people were aware of Wotan's ancient connection
01:01:45.700 with the figures of Christ and Dionysus,
01:01:48.540 but it is not very probable.
01:01:52.080 Wotan is a restless wanderer who creates unrest and stirs up strife,
01:01:57.180 now here, now there, and works magic. 1.00
01:02:00.320 He was soon changed by Christianity into the devil, 0.99
01:02:02.920 and only lived on in fading local traditions 0.97
01:02:08.160 as a ghostly hunter who is seen with his retinue
01:02:11.580 flickering like a will-o'-the-wisp through the stormy night.
01:02:16.900 In the Middle Ages, the role of the restless wanderer 0.91
01:02:19.120 was taken over by Asherus, the wandering Jew,
01:02:24.040 which is not a Jewish but a Christian legend.
01:02:27.820 The motif of the wanderer who has not accepted Christ
01:02:30.860 was projected on the Jews in the same way as we always rediscover our unconscious psychic
01:02:36.900 contents in other people. Just an aside, in the same way we always rediscover our conscious
01:02:45.660 psychic contents in other people, think of the Japanese also when he says that.
01:02:54.320 Continuing, at any rate, the coincidence of anti-Semitism with the reawakening of Wotan
01:03:00.780 is a psychological subtlety that may perhaps be worth mentioning. 0.87
01:03:06.760 The German youth who celebrated the Solstice with sheep sacrifices
01:03:12.020 were not the first to hear the rustlings of the primeval forest. 0.93
01:03:18.100 First to hear the rustlings of the primeval forest of the unconsciousness.
01:03:22.160 They were anticipated by Nietzsche, Schuller, Stephan, George, Lidwig, Claggs.
01:03:27.860 The literary tradition of the Rhineland at the country south of the main
01:03:30.980 has a classical stamp that cannot easily be got rid of.
01:03:35.160 Every interpretation of intoxication and exuberance
01:03:38.380 is apt to be taken back to classical models,
01:03:41.580 to Dionysus, to the purer Aeternus,
01:03:44.660 and the Cosmon, and the Cosmogonic Eros.
01:03:49.800 No doubt it sounds better to academic ears to interpret these things as Dionysus.
01:03:54.620 But Wotan might be a more correct interpretation. 0.68
01:03:57.160 He is the god of storm and frenzy, the unleasher of passions and the lust of battle.
01:04:02.720 Moreover, he is a superlative magician and artist in illusions who is versed in all secrets of an occult nature.
01:04:11.700 Nietzsche's case is certainly a peculiar one.
01:04:14.840 He had no knowledge of Germanic literature.
01:04:16.880 He discovered the cultural Philistine and the announcement that God is dead led to Zarathustra's meeting with an unknown god in unexpected form,
01:04:29.080 who approached him sometimes as an enemy and sometimes disguised as Zarathustra himself.
01:04:35.140 Zarathustra, too, was a soothsayer, a magician, and the storm went.
01:04:41.060 uh this is a quotation and like a wind shall i come to blow among them and with my spirit
01:04:49.820 shall take away the breath of their spirit thus my feature wills it truly a strong wind in
01:04:55.980 xerathutra is all that are low and this counsel gives he to his enemies and to all that spit and
01:05:05.700 spew beware of spitting against the wind and when xerathustra dreamed that he was guardian of the
01:05:14.000 graves in the lone mountain forest of death it was making a mighty effort to open the gates suddenly
01:05:20.260 a roaring wind tore the gates asunder whistling shrieking and keening it cast a black coffin
01:05:28.860 before me and amid the roaring whistling and shrieking the coffin burst open and spouted a
01:05:34.720 thousand peals of laughter. The disciple who interpreted the dream said to Zarathustra,
01:05:42.180 Are you not yourself the wind with shrill whistling which first opened the gates of the
01:05:48.280 fortress to death? Are you not yourself the coffin filled with life's gay malice and angel grimaces? 0.99
01:05:56.420 in 1863 or 1864 in his poem to the unknown god Nietzsche had written i shall and will know the 0.95
01:06:06.520 unknown one who searches out the depths of my soul and blows through my life like a storm
01:06:12.540 and grass bull and yet my kinsman i shall will know thee and serve thee
01:06:18.540 20 years later in his mistrial song he wrote
01:06:23.700 mistra mistral wind taster of clouds killer of gloom sweeper of the skies raging storm
01:06:39.640 wind how i love thee are we not both diverse fruits of the same wound forever predestined
01:06:46.420 to the same fate? In the Dithyrem known as Adrian's Ariadne's lament, Nietzsche is completely
01:06:59.400 the victim of the hunter god. Stretched out shuddering like a half-dead thing whose feet
01:07:04.960 are warm, shaken by unknown fevers, shivering with piercing ice, frost arrows, hunted by
01:07:11.540 thee oh thought unutterable veiled horrible one thou huntsman behind the clouds strept down by
01:07:19.440 the lightning bolt thou mocking eye that stares at me from the dark thus i lie writhing twisting
01:07:25.420 tormented with all eternal torture smitten by thee cruel huntsman thou unknown god
01:07:32.100 this remarkable image of the hunter god is not a mere dithyrambic figure of speech
01:07:40.280 but is based on an experience which Nietzsche had when he was 15 years old at Peforta.
01:07:49.680 It is described in a book by Nietzsche's sister, Elizabeth Forrester Nietzsche.
01:07:55.240 As he was wandering about in a gloomy wood at night,
01:07:58.060 he was terrified by a blood-curdling shriek from a neighboring lunatic asylum.
01:08:03.060 And soon afterwards, he came face to face with a huntsman whose features were wild and uncanny.
01:08:10.280 Tending his whistle to his lips, in a valley surrounded by wild shrub, the huntsman blew such a shrill blast that Nietzsche lost consciousness, but woke up again in Forta.
01:08:24.540 It was a nightmare. It is significant that in his dream, Nietzsche, who in reality intended to go to Isleben, Luther's town, discussed with the huntsmen the question of going instead to Tuchenwald, Valley of the Germans.
01:08:41.200 No one with ears can misunderstand the shrill whistling of the storm god in the nocturnal wood.
01:08:48.600 Was it really only the classical philologist in Nietzsche that led to the god being called Dionysus instead of Wotan?
01:08:56.260 Or was it perhaps due to his faithful meeting with Wagner?
01:09:01.560 Is Reich-O-Ram, which was first published in 1919, Bruno Gatz saw the secret of coming events in Germany in the form of a very strange vision?
01:09:11.200 i've never forgotten this low book for it struck me at the time as a forecast of the german weather
01:09:17.900 it anticipates the conflict between the realm of ideals and of and life between wotan's dual
01:09:24.600 nature as goddess storm and goddess secret musings wotan disappeared when his oaks fell
01:09:31.800 and appeared again when the christian god proved too weak to save christendom from fratricidal
01:09:37.200 slaughter. When the Holy Father
01:09:39.360 at Rome could only impot
01:09:41.140 impotently lament before God
01:09:43.340 the fate of
01:09:43.960 the Greeks 0.63
01:09:45.840 Sigratus, the 0.94
01:09:49.180 one-eyed hunter on the edge of the German
01:09:51.060 forest laughed and saddled Sleetner. 0.83
01:09:53.680 We are always convinced
01:09:55.040 that the modern world is a reasonable world,
01:09:57.920 basing our opinions on
01:09:59.100 economic, political, and
01:10:00.600 psychological factors. But
01:10:03.080 if we may forget for a moment that we are
01:10:05.040 living in the year of our Lord,
01:10:06.440 1936 and laying aside our well-meaning all-too-human reasonableness. May burden God
01:10:13.240 or the gods with the responsibility for contemporary events instead of man, we would 0.89
01:10:18.760 find Wotan quite suitable as a casual hypothesis. In fact, I ventured the heretical suggestion that 0.77
01:10:26.620 the infallible depths of Wotan's character explain more of national socialism than all 0.92
01:10:32.820 three reasonable factors put together. There is no doubt that each of these factors explains an
01:10:38.620 important aspect of what is going on in Germany, but Wotan explains yet more. He is particularly
01:10:45.720 enlightening regarding a general phenomena which is so strange to anybody not a German
01:10:51.680 that it remains incomprehensible even after the deepest reflection. Perhaps we may sum up this
01:10:58.040 general phenomena as air griffenheit, a state of being seized or possessed. The term postulates
01:11:06.520 not only an air griffner, one who is seized, but also an air griefer, one who seizes. 0.62
01:11:16.180 Wotan is an air griefer man, and unless one wishes to deify Hitler, which has indeed actually 0.60
01:11:22.940 happened, he's really the only explanation. It is true that Wotan shares this quality with his 0.93
01:11:29.360 cousin Dionysus, but Dionysus seems to have exercised his influence mainly on women. The
01:11:35.680 Mayneds, where a species of female storms should present, according to mythical report, were
01:11:40.880 dangerous enough. Wotan confines himself to the berserkers who found their vocation as the 0.98
01:11:48.660 black sharks of mystical kings. A mind that is still childish thinks of the gods of metaphysical 0.92
01:11:55.060 entities existing in their own right, or else regards them as playful or superstitious
01:11:59.540 inventions. From either point of view, the parallel between Wotan's redivivus and the social,
01:12:07.220 political, and psychic storm that is shaking Jeremy might have at least the value of a parable.
01:12:13.940 But since the gods are without doubt personifications of psychic forces,
01:12:19.120 to assert their metaphysical existence is as much an intellectual presumption
01:12:23.540 as the opinion that they could ever be invented.
01:12:26.840 Not that psychic forces have anything to do with the conscious mind,
01:12:32.020 fond as we are playing with the idea that consciousness and psyche are identical.
01:12:36.460 This is only another piece of intellectual presumption.
01:12:39.200 psychic forces have far more to do with the realm of the unconscious
01:12:44.100 Armenia for rational explanations obviously has its root in our fear of metaphysics 0.76
01:12:50.240 for the two were always hostile brothers
01:12:52.940 hence anything unexpected that approaches us from the dark realm is regarded either as
01:12:59.360 either as coming from outside and therefore as real or else
01:13:06.720 is a hallucination and therefore not true the idea that anything could be read real or true
01:13:13.920 which does not come from outside has hardly began begun to dawn on canipari man for the sake of
01:13:21.060 better understanding and to avoid prejudice we could of course dispense with the name wotan
01:13:26.760 and speak instead of the furor teutonicus but we should only be saying the same thing
01:13:33.060 and not as well, for the Fuhrer, in this case, is a mere psychologizing of Wotan and tells us no
01:13:39.060 more than that the Germans are in a state of fury. We thus lose sight of the most peculiar feature 0.53
01:13:46.200 of the whole phenomenon, namely the dramatic aspect of the Egriefer and the Egriefener.
01:13:53.760 The impressive thing about the German phenomenon is that one man, who is obviously possessed, 0.84
01:14:00.420 has infected a whole nation to such an extent that everything is set in motion 0.98
01:14:04.640 and starts rolling on its course towards perdition. 0.99
01:14:08.460 It seems to me that Wotan hit the mark as a hypothesis.
01:14:13.300 Apparently, he really was only asleep in the Kaihauser Mountain
01:14:19.420 until the ravens called him and announced the break of day.
01:14:23.660 He's a fundamental attribute of the German psyche,
01:14:26.520 and a rational psychic factor which acts on the high pressure of civilization like a cyclone and
01:14:32.240 blows it away. Despite their crankiness, the Wotan worshippers seem to have judged things more 0.95
01:14:37.660 correctly than the worshippers of reason. Apparently everyone has forgotten that Wotan 0.99
01:14:42.480 is a dramatic datum of first importance, the truest expression and unsurpassed personification
01:14:48.360 of a fundamental quality that is particularly characteristic of the Germans. Houston Stuart
01:14:54.920 chamberlain houstonster chamberlain is a symptom which arouses suspicion that other bailed gods may
01:15:03.260 have may have been sleeping elsewhere the emphasis on the j on the german race commonly called aryan
01:15:12.640 the germanic heritage blood in the soil the wagula where we as songs the ride of the valkyries jesus
01:15:19.720 as a blood and blue-eyed blonde and blue-eyed hero the greek mother of saint paul the devil
01:15:25.720 as an international alberk in jewish or masonic guise the north the nordic aurora borealis as 0.92
01:15:34.040 the light of civilization the inferior mediterranean races all this is the 0.99
01:15:39.280 indispensable scenery for the drama that is taking place and at the bottom they are all 1.00
01:15:45.760 they all mean the same thing a god that has taken possession of the germans and their house is
01:15:51.980 filled with a mighty rushing wind it was soon after hitler seized power if i'm not mistaken
01:15:58.520 that cartoon appeared in punch of a raving berserker tearing himself free from his bonds
01:16:04.580 a hurricane has broken loose in germany while we still believe it is a it is fine weather
01:16:11.620 Uh, for reference, Punch was, um, for reference, Punch was a, a, um, publication, uh, from
01:16:25.700 like 1850 to, uh, to 1963.
01:16:31.340 Uh, it, it is, um, is really founded by, uh, Charles Dickens, but, uh, it, it had been
01:16:40.300 going in ways like the equivalent of a New York Times cartoon
01:16:44.420 during the days of the Brinche Empire.
01:16:56.100 Things are comparatively quiet in Switzerland,
01:17:01.600 though occasionally there is a puff of wind from the north or south.
01:17:05.260 Sometimes it has a slightly ominous sound.
01:17:08.460 Sometimes it whispers so harmlessly or even idealistically that no one is alarmed.
01:17:13.940 Let the sleeping dogs lie.
01:17:16.360 We manage to get along pretty well with this proverbial wisdom.
01:17:20.600 It is sometimes said that the Swiss are singularly averse to making a problem of themselves.
01:17:26.040 I must rebut this accusation.
01:17:28.000 The Swiss do have their problems, but they would not admit it for anything in the world.
01:17:34.100 Even though they seem to see which way the wind is blowing, 0.98
01:17:37.880 We thus pay our tribute to the time of storm and stress in Germany, but we never mention it, and this enables us to feel vastly superior. 0.95
01:17:46.940 It is above all the Germans who have an opportunity, perhaps unique in history, to look into their own hearts and to learn what those perils of the soul were from which Christianity tried to rescue mankind. 0.94
01:18:00.460 Germany is a land of spiritual catastrophes, where nature never makes more than a pretense of peace. 0.98
01:18:06.500 with the world ruling reason the disturb of the peace is a wind that blows into europe from ages 0.79
01:18:12.820 vastness sweeping in on a wide front from thrace to the baltics scattering nations before it like
01:18:20.020 dry leaves or inspiring through the or inspiring thoughts that shake the world to its foundations
01:18:26.840 it is an elemental dionysus breaking into the apollonian order the rouser of this tempest is
01:18:33.240 named Wotan, who can learn a good deal about him, and we can learn a good deal about him from the
01:18:40.000 political confusion and spiritual upheaval he has caused throughout history. For a more exact
01:18:46.160 investigation of this character, however, we must go back to the age of myths, which did not explain
01:18:51.840 everything in terms of man and his limited capacities, but sought the deeper cause in the
01:18:57.060 psyche and its autonomous powers man's earliest institutions personified these powers as gods
01:19:03.940 and described them in the myths was great care and circumstantiality according to their various
01:19:10.220 characters this could be done the more readily on account of the firm established primordial
01:19:16.780 primordial types or images which are innate in the unconscious of many races and exercise a
01:19:24.560 direct influence upon them. Because the behavior of a race takes on its specific character from
01:19:30.540 its underlying images, we can speak of an archetype, Wotan. As an autonomous psychic
01:19:36.620 factor, Wotan produces effects on the K' in the collective life of the people and thereby 0.99
01:19:42.520 reveals his own nature. For Wotan has a peculiar biology of his own, quite apart from the nature 0.98
01:19:48.900 man it is only from time to time that individuals fall under the irresistible influence of this
01:19:55.060 unconscious factor when it is quiescent one is no more aware of the archetype wotan than
01:20:02.420 than of a latent epilepsy to the germans who were adults in 1914 have foreseen what they would be
01:20:09.860 today such amazing transformations are the effect of the god of wind that bloweth where it list
01:20:16.300 listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, nor whether it
01:20:24.120 goeth. It seizes everything in this path, and overthrows everything that is not firmly rooted.
01:20:30.940 When the wind blows, it shakes everything that is insecure, whether without or within.
01:20:38.880 Martin Nix has recently published a monograph, which is a more welcome addition to our knowledge
01:20:46.040 of Wotan's nature. The reader need not fear that this book is nothing but a scientific study
01:20:51.920 written with academic lewdness from the subject. Certainly the right to scientific objectivity
01:21:00.900 is fully preserved, and the material has been collected with extraordinary thoroughness and
01:21:06.260 presented in unusually clear form. But over and above all this, one feels that the author is
01:21:12.600 vitally interested in it, that the cord of Wotan is vibrating in him too. This is no criticism.
01:21:20.160 On the contrary, it is one of the chief merits of the book, which without this enthusiasm might
01:21:26.260 easily have degenerated into a tedious catalog. Nink sketches a really magnificent portrait of
01:21:34.600 the German archetype Wotan. He describes him in 10 chapters, using all available sources
01:21:39.940 as Berserkers, the Gods of Storm, the Wanderer, the Warrior, the Wunshin-Mingod, the Lord
01:21:46.360 of the Dead, and the Einherjar, the Master of Secret Knowledge, the Magician, and the
01:21:52.000 God of the Poets.
01:21:53.460 Neither the Valkyrie nor the Figshia are forgotten, for they form part of the mythological background
01:21:59.660 of faithful significance of Wotan.
01:22:02.700 Nink inquiry into the name and its origin is particularly instructive.
01:22:07.940 He shows that Wotan is not only a god of rage and frenzy who embodies the instinctual and emotional aspects of the unconsciousness.
01:22:16.780 Its intuitive and inspiring side also manifests itself in him, for he understands her runes and can interpret fate.
01:22:24.700 The Romans identified Wotan with Mercury, but his character does not really correspond to any Roman or Greek god, although there are certain resemblances.
01:22:34.340 He's a wanderer like Mercury, for instance.
01:22:37.600 He rules over the dead like Pluto in Cronus.
01:22:39.900 And is connected with Dionysus by his emotional frenzy, particularly in its mantic aspect.
01:22:49.320 It is surprising that Nick does not mention Hermes, the god of Revelation,
01:22:55.020 who is a pneuma and news is associated with wind.
01:23:02.180 He would have been the connecting link with the Christian
01:23:05.200 and 1.00
01:23:07.020 Dumiar and the
01:23:10.660 miracle of the Pentecost. 1.00
01:23:13.940 As Poim 0.96
01:23:14.500 Mondries, the shepherd of men, Hermes
01:23:17.340 is 1.00
01:23:18.000 a reefer like Wotan. 0.99
01:23:22.420 Nink rightly points out 0.88
01:23:23.720 that Dionysus and the other Greek gods
01:23:25.560 always remained under the
01:23:27.480 supreme authority
01:23:30.040 of Zeus, which indicates
01:23:31.600 a fundamental difference between the Greek and the Germanic temperament.
01:23:35.640 Nink assumes an inner affinity between Wotan and Kronos, and the latter's defeat may perhaps
01:23:41.880 be a sign that the Wotan archetype was once overcome and split up in prehistoric times. 0.80
01:23:47.840 At all events, the Germanic god represents a totality on a very primitive level, a psychological 0.93
01:23:54.500 condition in which man's will was almost identical with the gods and entirely at his 0.97
01:24:00.240 nursery. But the Greeks had gods who helped men against other gods, and the All-Father Zeus
01:24:07.240 himself is not far from the ideal of a benevolent enlightened despot. It was not in Wotan's nature 1.00
01:24:13.880 to linger on and show signs of old age. He simply disappeared when the times turned against him
01:24:18.860 and remained invisible for more than a thousand years, working in honestly and indirectly.
01:24:24.940 Archetypes are like riverbeds which dry up when the water deserts them, but which it can find again at any time.
01:24:32.020 An archetype is like an old watercourse along which the water of life has flowed for centuries, digging a deep channel for itself.
01:24:41.000 The longer it has flowed in this channel, the more likely it is that sooner or later the water will return to its old bed.
01:24:48.300 the life of the individual as a member of society and particularly as a part of the state
01:24:54.360 may be regulated like a canal but the life of nations is a great rushing river which is utterly
01:25:01.460 beyond human control in the hands of one who has always been stronger than men the legal nations
01:25:08.100 which was supposed to possess supernatural national authority is regarded by some as a child in need
01:25:14.840 of care and protection by others as an abortion. Thus, the life of nations rolls on unchecked,
01:25:21.860 without guidance and conscious of where it is going, like a rock crashing down the side of a
01:25:28.160 hill, until it is stopped by an obstacle stronger than itself. Political events move from one impasse
01:25:34.560 to the next, like a torrent caught in gullies, creeks, and marshes. All human control comes to
01:25:40.740 an end when the individual is caught in a mass movement. Then the archetype begins to function,
01:25:47.780 to function, as happens also in the life of individuals when they are confronted with
01:25:52.180 situations that cannot be dealt with in any of the familiar ways. But what a so-called fear does
01:25:59.920 with a mass movement can plainly be seen if we turn our eyes to north or south of our country.
01:26:05.360 the ruling archetype does not remain the same forever as is evident from the temporal limitations
01:26:12.060 that had been set to the hope for a reign of peace the thousand-year reich the mediterranean
01:26:18.600 father archetype of the jessa order loving benevolent ruler had been shattered over the
01:26:25.280 whole northern europe as the present fate of the christian church bears witness fascism in
01:26:31.640 Italy and civil war in Spain show that in the South as well, the cataclysm has been far greater
01:26:38.800 than one expected. Even the Catholic Church can only afford trials of strength. The nationalist
01:26:45.260 God has attacked Christianity on a broad front. In Russia, he is called technology and science.
01:26:51.360 In Italy, deuce. And in Germany, German faith, German Christianity, or the state.
01:26:57.900 the quote-unquote German Christians are a contradiction in terms
01:27:04.020 who would do better to join Hauer's German faith movement.
01:27:08.780 These are decent and well-meaning people who honestly admit their Ein Gryffenheit
01:27:14.040 and try to come to terms with this new and undeniable fact.
01:27:17.680 They go to an enormous amount of trouble to make it look less alarming
01:27:21.460 by dressing it up in conciliatory historical garb
01:27:24.980 and giving us consoling glimpses of great figures such as Meister Eckhart,
01:27:29.960 who was also a German and also an Griffin.
01:27:33.940 In this way, the awkward question of who the Angriffner is is circumvented. 0.94
01:27:40.180 He's always God, for the more Hauer restricts the worldwide sphere of Indo-European culture
01:27:46.060 to the Nordic in general and to the Ida in particular, 0.93
01:27:49.780 And the more German this faith becomes as a manifestation of Ein Gryffenheit, 0.71
01:27:56.000 the more painfully evident it is that the German god is the god of the Germans.
01:28:07.200 One cannot read Hauer's book without emotion.
01:28:10.800 If one regards it as the tragic and really heroic effort of a conscientious scholar
01:28:15.820 who, without knowing how it happened to him,
01:28:19.140 was violently summoned by the inaudible voice of Ein Griffer
01:28:22.660 and is now trying with all his might and with all his knowledge and ability
01:28:26.400 to build a bridge between the dark forces of life
01:28:29.600 and the shining world of historical ideas.
01:28:32.380 But what do all the beauties of the past
01:28:34.200 from the totally different levels of culture mean to the man of today 0.99
01:28:37.980 when confronted with a living and unfathomable tribal god
01:28:42.060 such as he has never experienced before? 1.00
01:28:45.200 They are sucked like dry leaves into the roaring whirlwind,
01:28:48.520 and the rhythmic alliterations of the Eda become inextricably mixed up with the Christian mystical text.
01:28:57.920 German poetry and the wisdom of the Upanishads.
01:29:02.980 Hauer himself is air griffin by the depths of meaning in the primal words lying at the root of the Germanic language.
01:29:14.400 to an extent that he certainly never knew before.
01:29:18.220 Power, the endologist, is not to blame for this, nor yet the Eda.
01:29:23.840 It is rather the fault of Kairos, the present moment in time,
01:29:28.820 whose name on closer investigation turns out to be Wotan. 0.93
01:29:33.120 I would therefore advise the German faith moon to throw aside their scribbles, 0.99
01:29:37.500 intelligent people who will not confuse them with the crude Wotan worshippers, 1.00
01:29:42.800 whose fate is a mere pretense. 0.97
01:29:45.720 There are people in the German faith movement
01:29:47.600 who are intelligent enough not only to believe,
01:29:51.020 but to know that the God of the Germans is Wotan
01:29:53.700 and not the Christian God.
01:29:55.560 This is a tragic experience and not disgrace. 0.97
01:29:59.200 It has always been terrible to fall into the hands of a living God.
01:30:03.380 Yahweh was no exception to this role, 0.96
01:30:05.220 and the Philistines, Edomites, Amorites, and the rest,
01:30:08.820 who were outside of Yahweh's experience, 0.96
01:30:10.540 must certainly have found it exceedingly
01:30:12.500 disagreeable. The
01:30:14.480 Semitic experience of Allah
01:30:15.980 was for a long time an extremely
01:30:18.220 painful affair for the whole
01:30:20.220 Christendom.
01:30:21.780 We who stood outside the judge
01:30:24.600 we who
01:30:26.560 stand outside judge the Germans far
01:30:28.480 too much, as if they were 0.80
01:30:30.160 responsible agents, but perhaps it would
01:30:32.420 be nearer to the church to regard them
01:30:34.100 also as victims. If we
01:30:36.380 apply our immediately peculiar point
01:30:38.520 of view consistently, we are driven
01:30:40.500 to conclude that Wotan must, in time, reveal not only the restless, violent, stormy side of his
01:30:46.060 character, but also his ecstatic and romantic qualities. It's a very different aspect of his
01:30:52.860 nature. If this conclusion is correct, national socialism would not be the last word. Things must
01:30:58.580 be concealed in the background, which we cannot imagine at present, but we must expect them to
01:31:03.780 appear in the course of the next few years or decades. Wotan's reawakening is a stepping back
01:31:09.840 into the pass. The stream was
01:31:11.840 dammed up and has broken
01:31:13.520 into its old channel, but the
01:31:15.800 obstruction will not last forever.
01:31:17.980 It is rather a
01:31:19.460 curcular pormiasotr,
01:31:21.320 and the water
01:31:23.340 will overleap the obstacles.
01:31:25.880 Then at last we shall know what
01:31:27.320 Wotan is saying when he 0.99
01:31:29.380 murmurs with Mimir's 0.92
01:31:31.520 head. 0.98
01:31:34.980 Basmu's 0.98
01:31:35.660 the son of Mim, of fate,
01:31:38.440 of Mim and fate,
01:31:39.840 is heard in the node of the gadjal horn loud blows heimdall the horn is aloft in fear quake all
01:31:48.700 whom on hell's road are ygursil shakes and shivers on high the ancient limbs with the ch and the
01:31:57.680 giant is loose wotan murmurs with memir's head but the kinsmen of sirt i'll slay him soon 0.77
01:32:05.780 How fair the gods 0.96
01:32:07.720 How fair the elves 1.00
01:32:09.240 All Jotunheim groans 1.00
01:32:11.480 The gods are at council 1.00
01:32:13.380 Loud roared the dwarves 0.98
01:32:15.780 By the doors of stone 0.92
01:32:17.440 The masters of the rocks
01:32:19.620 Would you know
01:32:20.900 Yet more
01:32:22.140 Now Garm howls loud 0.99
01:32:24.660 Before Kinnipel near 1.00
01:32:27.380 The fetters will burst
01:32:29.320 The wolf run f
01:32:30.720 And the wolf run free
01:32:32.160 Much I do know
01:32:34.080 And more can see
01:32:35.760 Of the fate of the gods
01:32:37.760 The mighty in fight
01:32:39.780 From east comes Herms
01:32:42.240 With shield held high
01:32:43.920 And giant wrath does the serpent writhe
01:32:47.280 O'er the waves he twists
01:32:50.700 And the tawny eagle
01:32:52.420 Gnaw's corpse is freemy 0.99
01:32:55.100 Nagflar is loose 1.00
01:32:57.540 O'er the sea from the north 0.99
01:32:59.820 There sails a ship 1.00
01:33:01.640 When the people of hell 0.91
01:33:03.700 at the helm
01:33:04.900 stands Loki
01:33:05.820 after the
01:33:08.480 after the wolf
01:33:10.300 do wild men follow
01:33:11.840 and within the brother
01:33:14.000 Oblius goes
01:33:16.040 and that is
01:33:22.880 the conclusion of
01:33:24.620 of Carl Jung's Wotan
01:33:28.800 where are your thoughts John
01:33:32.240 it's a powerful work
01:33:44.160 um
01:33:46.700 I mean he was obviously
01:33:48.960 rather frightened
01:33:50.900 of the Wotan archetype
01:33:52.940 a young I don't know if he was a Christian
01:33:54.880 I don't think he was but
01:33:56.080 I think he was coming at it with very Christian
01:33:59.220 priors
01:33:59.940 um
01:34:02.240 it definitely feels quite it feels it feels quite prophetic though right so you know he wrote this
01:34:10.580 before the war started and if you look at the effect of that of the war on germany and of the
01:34:20.920 effect of the war on the world um so you know germany gets completely wrecked uh they're still
01:34:28.900 in this state of psychic shock
01:34:31.200 from the war to this day.
01:34:32.860 It's kind of deep trauma.
01:34:36.100 Several
01:34:36.820 powerful, world-defining
01:34:39.580 technologies
01:34:40.480 were brought
01:34:43.200 into being during the war
01:34:45.420 largely
01:34:47.460 as a direct result of
01:34:49.160 German research, right?
01:34:50.360 It was really Germany that launched
01:34:54.360 Sputnik and 0.91
01:34:56.120 it's like
01:34:57.080 and there's uh and there's precisely exactly and and and it's the you know lufthansa uh
01:35:04.840 it's it's well the lufthwafe really that is responsible for you know the migration crisis
01:35:10.360 actually if you want to think about it that way um uh and like and there's an echo there 0.98
01:35:16.440 of the way like you know odin gets hung on the tree and comes back with the futhark right because
01:35:22.680 because he's also this kind of this mantic god he's not just a god of of frenzy and battle he's
01:35:28.940 also a god of like knowledge but you have to pay the price is caused by the uh lift walk
01:35:36.700 like uh their like advances in uh in aircraft technology others because uh because uh yes
01:35:47.960 yes exactly like you know the one country that's that's actually if you'll get the stats suffering
01:35:55.280 the migrant crisis the least it's germany like yeah they they're they have decades ago before
01:36:04.060 like they've oh they're nowhere nowhere near as bad shape as actually you know it's interesting
01:36:11.540 if you look at the countries that are suffering the worst of the migration crisis it's the anglosphere 0.97
01:36:17.540 we are the ones actually who were paying the price for our civilizational treachery 0.87
01:36:26.960 during world war ii you know it's we won the war but we lost our souls and and we're like
01:36:35.100 working through the car our nations are falling it to its logical conclusion the hardest yes this
01:36:42.440 where like japan is like you know having like a culture war over like one to two percent migration
01:36:50.940 whereas like uh because japan never never never um they never signed on for this right they never
01:36:59.340 affirmed the necessity of the nuremberg system as thomas 777 puts it or the japanese have never
01:37:07.300 They've never conceived themselves as their brother's keeper.
01:37:10.820 No, exactly.
01:37:11.580 And they've never conceded that they were like the bad guys in World War II.
01:37:15.440 They've never conceded any of it, really.
01:37:19.740 And there's a whole other interesting thread there, actually.
01:37:22.180 If you think about the spiritual effect that the best of anime has had on the imaginations of Western youth, this is almost like Japan's revenge.
01:37:32.680 you know it's like they're they're using stories to get inside the heads of western youth and kind 0.69
01:37:41.220 of like remind them of who they are in a in a sense like in in the best stories i mean you know
01:37:47.460 um i mean if you watch something like legends of heroes for example like long gram is something
01:37:53.800 himself in the future yeah i mean right i mean you can't watch that and uh or uh or attack on
01:38:00.880 titan you know um or uh or even like full metal alchemist for that matter and like walk away from
01:38:07.680 that with like a sort of intact view towards the post-war consensus like all of these works kind
01:38:15.440 of chew away at that right that's that's kind of a digression like it's away from like wotan
01:38:19.220 i have i might have you back to discuss akira sometime
01:38:24.800 oh yeah no i watched it recently and i especially since i'm learning to wheelie my motorcycle right
01:38:33.960 now uh that you ever uh have you ever read akira i'm reading it at the moment okay yeah yeah it's
01:38:41.220 great like um it's kind of remarkable how the movie is like the first half of the first book
01:38:47.540 and like the last half of the last book and there's like 5 000 pages in between that they just
01:38:51.180 cut um and yet it's a perfectly intact movie like it's remarkable yeah totally um it it makes sense
01:39:00.120 perfectly internally it's really it's master work honestly um yeah um so like
01:39:07.940 so wo tan this this work by crawl young so what we what we've done all these readings we started
01:39:16.980 in uh the year 2000 with syl sereno uh or the year 111 with sereno and then we've gone backwards
01:39:26.460 uh through all these stories and intercessions to crawl young in the exact moment of 1936
01:39:36.080 and uh i don't remember him talking about it in this piece but it might be in his red book
01:39:43.680 he actually talked about beating hitler's gaze gaze at one point and seeing hitler's eyes which uh
01:39:51.200 this is something everyone like consistently said about hitler that uh he had penetrating blue eyes
01:39:58.740 like if you ever see it color corrected that he has brown eyes that's a wrong color correction
01:40:02.480 and like that's like something that they told you in great school because you can check because you
01:40:07.520 only had black and white clothes but uh allegedly he he had these like penetrating blue eyes and
01:40:15.340 when young young met his gaze he like saw wotan and at this haunted young like he was seeing the
01:40:23.940 next like the he was seeing 1945 and that you wonder if uh norm mcdonald had read had read that
01:40:30.820 essay and like that famous norm mcdonald joke where he's like talking to the jewish guy he's
01:40:35.600 like yeah i don't know i'm just i'm glad i never had to had to look hitler in the eyes i feel like
01:40:41.080 he might have he might have well no it's norm mcdonald i can repeat the joke uh norm mcdonald
01:40:47.100 he's like yeah he has ever think you know if only i could go back in time and kill hitler
01:40:52.720 but but you know what what if he spell down to you like you did the germans you know you know 0.51
01:41:00.120 you go to kill him but then he looks at you and you meet his eyes and and next thing you know
01:41:05.700 you gotta and he bewitches you you know all suddenly you're there with a weapon there to 1.00
01:41:16.160 kill him and all suddenly you're you're Sam Hyde okay you know what I'll do it for you Hitler 0.99
01:41:21.040 I'm your top guy Hitler I'll do it Hitler I'll go to bat for you Hitler uh uh Carl Young had that 1.00
01:41:28.080 exact experience of, uh, meeting, meeting Hitler's gaze and, uh, these penetrating eyes 0.88
01:41:35.580 that allegedly he had from like, allegedly like he, he developed this gaze in like the
01:41:42.820 1920s, like working himself up, up into this like frenzy of like work and vision and whatnot.
01:41:49.380 And this lasted, um, this lasted, allegedly you could see cracks in this gaze, uh, when
01:41:57.640 he was getting sicker in his old age but apparently he was like very spellbinding
01:42:02.360 and control room just would like with his will uh like uh he could like uh and
01:42:10.320 you kind of see this like at the start of the war where he he like wins these like traumatic
01:42:17.920 diplomatic concessions that like there should have been war between germany and czechoslovakia
01:42:22.820 and said he just like rolls over it with and like gets everyone to accept that he's taking
01:42:29.660 Czechoslovakia and Neville Chamberlain's calling it a victory for peace and then and then gets
01:42:37.620 Austria as well and then invades Poland and then invades France and it's just like like like all
01:42:45.120 western europe falls falls like with shockingly little struggle and uh allegedly depending on
01:42:54.660 your read of the period like a lot of that is owed just to to eolf hitler's like individual
01:43:01.040 personality that uh that like uh there's all this um all this are we gonna go are we not gonna go
01:43:10.160 are we going to send troops into czechoslovakia are we are we not because like you can imagine
01:43:15.040 if you invade czechoslovakia and you have an all-out war with czechoslovakia and like they
01:43:20.440 had a real military at that point like it wasn't like uh like it might have been a hard fight like
01:43:26.340 uh they could have bogged down and and uh the border between germany and czechoslovakia could
01:43:32.080 have been uh could have been a world war one type yeah yeah i was yeah i was i just finished reading
01:43:37.740 um the nuremberg system and he he talks about that a little bit that like the czechs were
01:43:43.420 basically the best trained best equipped army in europe at the time and it could have gone
01:43:48.880 very badly if it had not yeah and they had just like fought their waist like uh and half their
01:43:55.460 leaders were veterans of the russian civil war because the czechoslovak legion had like fought
01:44:00.780 their entire way to the pacific ocean and then it made it home to check the fact that it was that
01:44:08.700 that was not actually a war that the the reunification of the sudetan land happened uh
01:44:14.180 peacefully is actually like that was just amazing diplomacy on the germans part like yeah and all
01:44:22.880 that was um like like achieved via like just extraordinary brinksmanship like uh like
01:44:30.360 imagine if like uh donald trump was 30 years younger and like uh and like instead of just
01:44:39.200 like the venezuela grab or whatnot and like the diplomatic victory there and like uh the golden
01:44:45.840 points he had like five of those in a row you know which is clearly like what he was kind of
01:44:51.420 matching when he went after i ran and then it like bogged down in me imagine if imagine if
01:44:56.060 Trump was more energetic and actually capable of annexing Canada, you know.
01:45:01.540 Yeah, yeah.
01:45:02.240 Imagine if he had been planning this for the past, like, 20 years.
01:45:07.120 The actual...
01:45:08.460 And, like, reading books and bringing nothing else.
01:45:11.900 And it occurs to me that this is part of the karma, to go back to that,
01:45:17.800 so there are karma from World War II, right? 0.62
01:45:19.640 So Germany was trying to unify, and the Anglosphere, which was largely united at that time, said, no, you unifying, you're trying to conquer the world, so we're going to smash you to bits.
01:45:36.140 And then what happened to the Anglosphere?
01:45:37.800 now we've been shattered 0.99
01:45:40.060 into like our constituent
01:45:41.820 pieces and we're being
01:45:44.000 you know kind of consumed
01:45:46.060 consumed from within and from without
01:45:50.080 we can't unify ourselves 1.00
01:45:53.760 because we forbade the Germans 0.99
01:45:56.160 to unify and then we made a fetish
01:45:58.000 of the universal principle
01:46:00.060 that unification is bad
01:46:01.880 you know
01:46:02.980 just a thought that led to me there
01:46:06.520 yeah
01:46:09.100 no
01:46:12.040 like it is an extraordinary sequence
01:46:16.080 of like things that you
01:46:18.060 would not think would be
01:46:20.060 possible all happened in
01:46:21.760 quick succession between like
01:46:24.240 1929
01:46:26.620 and like
01:46:28.000 1939
01:46:29.700 or 1940
01:46:32.040 really all at once
01:46:34.040 and
01:46:34.660 like just to create the conditions for like barbarossa which of course is like the ultimate
01:46:43.180 uh is the ultimate wild hunt like this this great crusade into the east
01:46:50.240 with all your marching at once is like i can't remember did you uh did you mention
01:46:56.900 the famous painting
01:46:58.040 by Franz von Stuck?
01:47:03.720 Oh, the one with... 0.79
01:47:05.740 Hitler. 0.90
01:47:06.840 The 1889... 0.95
01:47:09.260 The one with Wotan 0.86
01:47:10.840 that looks like Hitler.
01:47:12.400 The 1889 painting of Wotan 0.75
01:47:13.960 and the Wild Hunt 0.95
01:47:14.780 where it looks just like Hitler
01:47:16.180 and it was painted in 1889
01:47:19.400 which was the year he was born,
01:47:22.700 wasn't it?
01:47:25.040 Yeah, it was like
01:47:26.200 immediately
01:47:27.480 yeah
01:47:28.620 painted the same year 0.88
01:47:31.700 Hitler was born 0.55
01:47:33.120 it's just such a crazy 0.99
01:47:35.680 coincidence
01:47:36.820 if you look at the painting
01:47:37.700 the mustache, the hair 0.97
01:47:39.840 that's Hitler 0.97
01:47:40.820 yeah it's doubly crazy 0.95
01:47:45.420 because like
01:47:46.100 that
01:47:48.520 combination of hairstyles was like
01:47:51.220 not a lot for it
01:47:52.180 so like the reason
01:47:55.220 that mustache was never popular by the way like there is no point at which like all the guys had
01:48:00.520 that mustache it was always no that mustache was very popular because that was a regulation mustache
01:48:07.860 for world war one because you had to specifically uh trim your facial hair such that the gas mask
01:48:15.920 would fit over so like hitler is the famous one who kept the um the gas mask mustache who kept
01:48:24.480 yeah and like the symbol of that was that for him the war was still on he was still uh
01:48:34.320 he was still a soldier fighting and like he was still in the trenches and everyone in germany
01:48:41.320 knew what that mustache meant and that's why like uh the only like there's charlie chaplin yeah
01:48:47.460 with that mustache it's like a few odd characters but then if you look in like the the photos of
01:48:54.360 germany of the period there's all these odd characters who have that mustache it's because
01:48:58.580 a lot of them kept their army regulation mustache i didn't know that um yeah i mean so it would
01:49:04.280 have been common during world war one but it certainly wasn't common even in germany after
01:49:08.300 that like most of the most of the vets shaved or i mean one of the other things with world war one
01:49:15.060 was that was like the great changeover from military men typically having very whiskery
01:49:20.680 faces in general uh to clean shaven being the default look precisely because of gas masks 0.99
01:49:26.740 well that's that's why like the amish and mennonites like uh have the had the weird 0.99
01:49:34.240 neckbeards because uh they don't want to have mutton chops or mustaches because that's what 0.90
01:49:40.420 military men would wear and that's i thought it was i thought it was like some kind of
01:49:44.800 weird like vanity thing
01:49:47.740 where they thought like you know
01:49:49.400 a mustache is vanity
01:49:51.600 but like you know a neck beard 1.00
01:49:53.480 looks like shit 1.00
01:49:54.460 it's vanity because that's what 1.00
01:49:57.660 dandy military men
01:49:59.820 wear that's what like 1.00
01:50:01.280 a hussar would wear 1.00
01:50:03.180 and like they're going to 1.00
01:50:05.760 differentiate themselves from that
01:50:07.660 because they're pacifists
01:50:08.820 they're just gonna like not groom basically
01:50:11.420 like just let it grow out
01:50:13.460 well no they shave their faces so that they don't have a mustache and they don't have much jobs
01:50:19.740 and then they keep the inverse hair of like around the neck right so like to like omit the omits have
01:50:27.080 to shave a lot to keep like uh themselves from growing a mustache because they still grow that
01:50:33.460 facial hair like it isn't they aren't they aren't like like they have a neck beard but they aren't
01:50:38.640 unshaved neckbeards you know they they're shaming all the time to maintain the neck beard
01:50:43.620 do you mind if i um so i i wrote an essay god like a couple years ago called the re-enchantment
01:50:50.340 of the world it's really long but like there's a there's a chunk in here i'm discussing
01:50:55.120 young's hitler uh his his wotan essay um what if i read a bit from this
01:51:03.360 absolutely dear go ahead and i will link your full piece in the uh uh show notes uh just
01:51:12.840 pop the link in the uh in the chat so i'm i have a letter awesome it starts out i started out with
01:51:22.740 that that painting of uh the franz von stĂĽck painting um and then so carl jung believed that
01:51:29.380 Hitler, and through him the German people, had become possessed by the spirit of Wotan,
01:51:33.920 the itinerant one-eyed all-father, god of storms and war, frenzy and wisdom, of runes 0.95
01:51:38.520 and sacrifices, and of disguises and prophecies.
01:51:42.040 Of course, Jung did not believe that Wotan literally existed, but considered the god
01:51:46.460 to be a psychological archetype dwelling within the collective racial subconscious of the
01:51:50.240 Germans, the symbolic representation of a sort of alternate personality comprised of
01:51:55.100 various latent drives and quirks of personality common to the German instinctual behavioral
01:52:00.580 makeup. But perhaps Wotan has some reality beyond that. Perhaps Hitler really was anchoring the soul
01:52:07.760 of the awoken Wotan. Perhaps the Thule Society saw the similarity in the painting by Franz von 0.78
01:52:13.180 Stuck, took him aside to groom him for this purpose, and some years before he came to Munich,
01:52:18.600 invited him as the guest of honor at a summoning ritual in Neuschwanstein Castle, where
01:52:24.820 while Mars was in Aries during a midnight new moon.
01:52:29.140 Then again, maybe Jung was just blathering
01:52:31.960 about this subconscious Wotan archetype stuff
01:52:34.500 because Hitler himself certainly never walked around
01:52:37.080 with an eyepatch identifying as the Allfather.
01:52:40.660 Nor was there much overt adoption of Wotanism
01:52:43.820 as the official state religion. 0.92
01:52:46.300 But then again, Wotan was the god of disguises, 0.69
01:52:49.940 as well as of all the other things. 0.98
01:52:51.740 The one thing that you can count on
01:52:53.540 is that he won't show up as himself. So who knows, really? In any case, we all know the
01:53:00.020 consequences. We live in them. It's our origin story. Those consequences were all more or less
01:53:05.580 what you would expect, given Wotan's attributes. So Jung's diagnosis must be credited with a certain 0.99
01:53:10.720 predictive success. Awakening Wotan was a powerful, terrible thing. It broke the world, but it brought 1.00
01:53:17.380 much into it at the same time. Rockets, jet aircraft, armored maneuver warfare, the atomic bomb,
01:53:22.420 and computers all owe their origin either to Germany's wartime arsenal or to American advances
01:53:28.200 made with the purpose of defeating Germany and using German physics to do so. Beating those
01:53:34.940 swords into plowshares built the abundance and power of the material world we inhabit.
01:53:40.600 Yes, a lot of people died, but one does not awaken a war god without this occurring. The
01:53:46.040 price of his wisdom is always sacrifice. Say what you will, it was a neat trick.
01:53:53.260 Leave Wotan aside. He's had a shot. Can other spirits be awakened out of the immaterium? 1.00
01:53:59.060 Other gods? What about the shades of the heroes of history and myth? How about fictional characters?
01:54:04.420 Where's the line? Is it possible for a culture to LARP so hard that it begins calling these souls
01:54:10.160 back from the other world, to influence and even possess the societies who invoke them?
01:54:15.400 Can Theseus be reawakened to lead us out of the maze and found Athens?
01:54:20.180 Can Perseus soar back on Pegasus to slay Medusa and rescue Andromeda from the sea monster?
01:54:25.980 What about Achilles, Alexander, Cortes, Conan the Barbarian?
01:54:29.820 What are the limits here?
01:54:31.300 And if the answer to all of these questions is yes, could we call back the spirit of Christ again?
01:54:36.520 Because if the answer is no, well, I hate to tell the Christians this, but Anon, I...
01:54:42.720 One does not only worship gods by adoring them, making sacrifices to them, singing their hymns, and so on.
01:54:48.740 There's more, that's more how one placates and flatters them and tries to draw them near.
01:54:53.880 One may also try to emulate them.
01:54:56.300 The more a culture tries to resonate with any given god, the more strongly that god's spirit is drawn to them.
01:55:02.860 This is not an easy or trivial process, made no easier for the Germans in that it was a largely unconscious effort, 0.74
01:55:09.360 unless that whole Thule thing happened. The Germans didn't summon Wotan on purpose but
01:55:14.780 more or less blundered into the great working via decades of Wagner. Maybe it's easier to bring back 0.96
01:55:20.700 the influence of divine and heroic spirits to infuse their personalities and energies into
01:55:25.560 culture if we set about doing so deliberately. While we're at it, we can be more careful about
01:55:31.540 which gods or ancestral spirits we choose to bring back. The primordial Aryan ancestry cult 0.97
01:55:38.340 Fustel de Collange described, offered deification as a family god to each man who fathered a son. 0.56
01:55:45.420 BAP tells us that in Greek society, the central goal around which all was organized was to become
01:55:50.500 a god. Each man sought apotheosis, competing to be first in bravery, skill, cunning, or wisdom,
01:55:56.580 to grow a legendary name in life and in death, perhaps to be elevated to heroism or even to be
01:56:01.920 deified, with sacrifices at their altars and hymns sung to their names. Obviously, not every man
01:56:08.200 wished to compete in such spiritual status games, but nevertheless, this spirit is seen in abundance
01:56:13.320 in the lives written by Plutarch. Aegon and Contest were central to Greek public life.
01:56:19.340 The Greeks were a personally ambitious, fractious, warlike people, forever divided into a bewildering
01:56:24.400 myriad of city-states that competed with one another as the men belonging to each did the 0.74
01:56:28.080 same with those around them. It was this spirit, and not any particular political system, that
01:56:32.620 underlay the Greek sense of freedom. They were never able to unite themselves. The small
01:56:38.040 empires built by Athens and Sparta lasted decades or less, and Philip and Alexander
01:56:42.280 are only able to hold them together for a similar time frame. This is all exactly what
01:56:46.440 you would expect in a society whose animating purpose is to ascend to the pinnacle of competitive
01:56:50.900 excellence. The Greeks sought to emulate gods and heroes, but they did not really become
01:56:56.860 them. When a Greek became a hero, he did not become Perseus. Perseus was Perseus, and the
01:57:02.420 Greek was the Greek. The Greek did not become a hero by merging with Perseus, or with Apollo,
01:57:06.800 or with Ares or with any other spirit or god. He remained himself. Every hero is an individual man,
01:57:12.460 perfected. This did not mean the gods played no role in his elevation. Indeed, it is they who
01:57:18.480 must welcome him in. It helps if he praises and flatters them in life, of course, if he gives
01:57:23.380 them gifts and accepts their blessings or overcomes their curses in return. Where mid-century German 0.77
01:57:29.380 society was unconsciously possessed by a single fury whose name their largely materialist or 0.92
01:57:34.980 Christian assumptions about the world would not even let them say, save as a joke, the Greeks
01:57:40.300 consciously allowed themselves to be possessed by a whole nation of gods. In so doing, despite their 0.87
01:57:46.560 fractiousness, or because of it, they reached heights of human development that have rarely 0.93
01:57:51.080 been reached since, but which they sustained for much longer than the thousand-year Reich. 0.89
01:57:56.660 For us, who are closer to the Germans than to the Greeks, in time, culture, and circumstance,
01:58:02.780 such invocations of the gods must still be spoken of as a joke. 0.76
01:58:06.500 Fortunately, we are better than mid-century Germans at telling them. 1.00
01:58:15.140 Amazing. And I will link your full essay in the show notes. 1.00
01:58:20.880 I strongly recommend you check about Dear Reader.
01:58:24.380 Uh, so this, um, the conceit that, that peoples are subconsciously summoning gods from the
01:58:37.860 past or that, uh, the God is, can be something you're not expecting.
01:58:45.920 Uh, just as like the Germans presumably were not expecting Wotan to appear within the next
01:58:53.200 decades in 1910 when you have a materialist metaphysics and that's all just a bunch of
01:58:57.620 nonsense you're not going to expect that right but you know if you're like um you know uh embedded
01:59:03.940 in the assumptions of like uh norse shamanism from like 1000 ad or something like they would
01:59:11.520 know what the fury is right like the the ingriffner or whatever the word was like they would they
01:59:18.140 would recognize that they'd be like oh yeah yes they had they had ochner and they they had actually
01:59:24.560 been acting this out like the german romanticism had had been like unwittingly yes something as
01:59:32.960 spirit this oh yeah the the von der vogel movement to like the eight in the 19th like the 1840s i
01:59:40.040 think and like yeah absolutely yes so my conceit is so what are we summoning in our age now what
01:59:50.700 are what have we been acting out endlessly in western is it Athena no no no this is the thing
01:59:58.840 oh so the in even at this time like Jung is the only guy equating Kittler with Wotan and even
02:00:09.280 here he like aside from his like one s one bit in the red bucket even here it's like very bad like
02:00:15.860 you know the spirit has has come to us fully he's not saying oh hitler is in avatar of wotan
02:00:23.320 and like obviously we're going to have this great war because of this and he there's going to be
02:00:28.180 like uh like even western media refers to 1945 germany as gotcha jammer on yes like uh like uh
02:00:38.080 You'll see, like, Paul of Duty games and every book that's about Germany and World War II.
02:00:46.860 And, you know, I think...
02:00:49.300 There's a lot of it.
02:00:50.260 I think Shakespeare, like, this idea of, like, by the end of 1945, and certainly as pop culture progresses,
02:01:03.560 like this idea of the youngs that he isn't even fully expressing has like fully permeated the
02:01:09.600 culture and the idea of like acquitting hitler with wotan explicitly as like a major matter of
02:01:17.720 stated religious faith like uh we can see it being like coherently expressed here with reference all
02:01:25.280 way back to 1936 in ron mcmahon's temple of wotan but but this idea of adolf hitler as like a living
02:01:35.300 avatar of a god such as like such as like christ was the messiah of the christian religion like
02:01:43.160 that did not exist at all if someone might express it and they and you know even the most ardent of
02:01:49.540 the nazis would be like come on guy you're you're tone it down take about 10 off the top there
02:01:55.760 there if you express that like in 1940s germany but uh but in our culture uh the idea that like
02:02:04.140 uh they're again a jordan peterson moment uh pearson was giving a speech well uh uh you see
02:02:14.920 a lot of people might say well how do you know this is wrong you know where does morality come
02:02:20.700 from maybe it's just something happens it's like well you know come on come on you know stuff is
02:02:28.020 wrong wrong uh if you want to say that evil doesn't exist in the world well look at the holocaust
02:02:34.600 and and he tries to solve like the metaphysical problem of the origin of morality by just appeal
02:02:42.360 to hitler yes that uh that adolf hitler in the uh liberal uh uh post-war consensus is
02:02:52.800 the metaphysical font from which the divine touches the earth and we get knowledge of good
02:02:59.660 and evil and you know yes absolutely yeah yeah it's yeah it's and and this has been reified and
02:03:09.520 reified and reified in all our classrooms to the point where like uh christian churches
02:03:15.080 if you walked into your christian church and said you know this seems like a cool place to
02:03:21.900 hang out but i'm not quite sure he was really divine you know maybe he was just he was just
02:03:27.880 a cool guy who like uh who like didn't deserve what he got maybe he's just a brilliant philosopher
02:03:35.820 or whatnot you know like denying the sacraments you know you're denying the trinity you're denying
02:03:41.480 you're denying the eucharist and all this you know he's just a really brilliant guy and a really
02:03:47.440 great thinker and i like to hang out as at his church they will bend over backwards to accommodate
02:03:52.460 you like if you want to quibble about the trinity and be like oh i'm not seeing it
02:03:59.700 they will love to have that
02:04:02.480 conversation with you and be like
02:04:04.020 come back next week
02:04:05.480 if you quibble about
02:04:08.300 1945 though
02:04:09.980 believe that Jesus existed
02:04:12.000 you know they're like but yeah no exactly
02:04:13.980 I see where you're going with that
02:04:14.920 if you go in there and you're like
02:04:16.760 I don't know I don't think it was that bad actually
02:04:19.480 it would be like get the hell out of our church 0.98
02:04:21.440 what is wrong with you that's blasphemous 0.97
02:04:23.880 to even say that
02:04:24.620 exactly 0.53
02:04:26.940 If you, you, you can deny the divinity of Christ and you'll probably still be welcomed at most Christian churches and not just the Unitarians, but, uh, but you deny the, uh, the anti-divinity, the infernal nature of Adolf Hitler, because Hitler is the, he's the anti-messiah, essentially, like this, this sort of inverted Christ figure, um,
02:04:56.940 yeah yes he either has to be the messiah or he has to be the antichrist our culture has made that
02:05:03.880 that so and so what what like ron mcvan and uh this is one of the things where thomas seven
02:05:13.300 seven seven uh i think i list one two may sevens he had this thing uh where he really didn't like
02:05:21.500 he was talking about
02:05:24.480 oh what's his
02:05:25.900 what's his name George Lincoln Rockwell
02:05:28.000 that he really didn't like the idea of like
02:05:30.300 what are you doing this
02:05:32.000 we're in the middle of the cold war and you're dressing up
02:05:34.260 as like
02:05:34.680 like a German soldier 0.97
02:05:39.960 just to like screw people
02:05:41.400 not even a soldier he's dressed up like 0.93
02:05:43.060 SA
02:05:44.080 yeah yeah
02:05:47.220 and like explicitly
02:05:50.140 calling yourself a nazi and it's like this is even what like the actual like fascist continuities
02:05:55.600 are doing this isn't what franco this isn't what franco in spain is doing he's trying to like deal
02:06:01.040 with actual anti-communism but a lot of ways like like that explicit appropriation of um
02:06:10.780 of nazism and hitler like as as this like metaphysical font or like political font
02:06:22.140 of wisdom like uh like our culture has done everything to make that the right move
02:06:29.000 like uh like weirdly like this is where the esoteric like uh the the agartha meme religion
02:06:38.320 that is spawning out of twitter twitter edits with with android charlie instagram dude those
02:06:44.960 things are all over instagram to a degree that shocked me when i found out about it because i
02:06:50.340 mean instagram that's a much younger platform right through the zoomers hang out and like 0.99
02:06:53.640 yeah yeah that is intellectual coherency to it it's not like a bunch of like you know gen xers 0.99
02:06:59.380 and millennials like like like twitter tends to be and um just seeing just like the the sheer
02:07:05.540 amount of like i mean some of this like like they'll invoke this stuff sometimes just for like
02:07:11.780 things that have nothing to do with politics like like yakub math teacher it like and it's all part
02:07:18.040 of a six seven meme involving involving like robot charlie kirk and you're like what what the hell is
02:07:22.660 going on here you know um but then you know thinking about this i i sort of realized recently
02:07:28.740 Um, you know, if you, if you, okay, so first of all, like young men, young white men in particular, like they, they, they lean conservative much more than they lean like left wing.
02:07:44.260 um second what's the spectrum of opinion on the Austrian painter in that generation
02:07:53.220 and as far as I can determine it goes sort of all the way from um uh you know he was the
02:08:04.080 incarnation of Wotan and the avatar of Indra you know he was the lightning and the sun and
02:08:10.240 it goes all the way from there to just kind of indifference just kind of like yeah you know he's
02:08:14.580 like a mid-century german warlord don't really care we have real we have real problems to deal
02:08:19.120 with but like that sense of like hitler is like the secular satan is actually largely lost amongst 0.95
02:08:25.380 the zoomers right and like and this is a completely that's a huge part of the cultural 0.96
02:08:31.560 disconnect between the zoomers and and the boomers um because like they they either just don't care 0.98
02:08:37.920 they're like yeah guy had drip you know like he said some good things um and uh that's that 0.98
02:08:45.260 pretends just a massive cultural like political shift in the next 10 20 years when that generation
02:08:54.640 takes over by that same sort of like post-war mythology like boomer truth regime of everything
02:09:06.220 points back to the holocaust and you know all morality is just the inverse of what the painter
02:09:11.600 believed yeah so so the date to keep in mind is 2045 because 2045 there are no holocaust survivors
02:09:30.280 Like, there's no plausible Holocaust survivor. 0.88
02:09:32.280 Don't cram me on me. 0.91
02:09:33.400 It's not holograms.
02:09:34.740 There will be, like, one person who's 100 and claims to be the last one,
02:09:41.040 and everyone will be suspicious of their birth certificate.
02:09:45.260 But, like, right now, the number of, like, the number of Holocaust survivors,
02:09:53.200 this was a thing that, like, it always gets overstated.
02:09:56.560 like the survivor number not
02:09:58.400 hitting side the question of the
02:10:00.700 dead because there were all these payout
02:10:02.580 schemes to hold cost survivors
02:10:04.420 and the thing is how 0.53
02:10:05.880 prove that you're a Jew who lived
02:10:08.740 in one of 20 countries
02:10:10.520 between
02:10:12.000 19
02:10:13.240 between
02:10:14.400 1939 and 45
02:10:18.820 it's like
02:10:20.180 like there's no way to like
02:10:22.620 create a system
02:10:24.160 that would actually like
02:10:25.860 no the records were destroyed and so on and like yeah so they're like all these all these elaborate
02:10:34.100 uh all these like very naked frauds are just like taking money from germany that like you know
02:10:41.720 people who weren't even jewish and had never lived in europe were like for like being paid out
02:10:48.920 holocaust money from the german government um and there's no way to verify it and occasionally
02:10:55.220 you'll get like a story of like um some jewish teenager discovering that her parents who said
02:11:02.020 they were holocaust survivors hadn't had like lived in south florida the entire time right
02:11:07.580 yeah i think that's a big part of the reason for the attitude shift right is like like you had i
02:11:14.200 think a critical mass of of the youth over the last decade um the the alt-right era you know
02:11:22.700 the 4chan era sort of like realized like wait like i mean like sure there were camps and definitely
02:11:29.360 a lot of people died but a lot of this is like exaggerated like even setting aside the factual
02:11:37.000 questions right so there's a lot of questions about like a lot of realization that like a lot
02:11:41.720 of this is exaggerated even if you are kind of a maximalist and even then there are worse
02:11:49.660 far worse genocides far worse uh examples of what i love this phrase
02:11:54.840 just like the number this is why there are so many memes about it is because
02:12:07.200 just the raw number of like fraud works that like are knitted fraud works like even if you 100%
02:12:14.800 believe in
02:12:16.380 the story like
02:12:18.780 the six million figure and
02:12:20.760 the death camp stories and the current
02:12:22.600 official story of everything
02:12:24.980 like
02:12:26.180 there were
02:12:28.840 decades when there could buy a book
02:12:30.940 that talked about like holocausters
02:12:33.020 and masturbation machines
02:12:34.460 and like all these 1.00
02:12:36.020 schizophrenics who like some of them 0.71
02:12:38.880 were Jewish schizophrenics some of them were like 0.92
02:12:40.780 people pretending to be Jewish who were 0.80
02:12:42.680 schizophrenic that were just like 1.00
02:12:44.800 get away with publishing the most ridiculous things and like all these generations of frauds 0.96
02:12:51.060 that like no boomer would ever dare question it's actually it's very similar to what we went through
02:12:57.760 over the last several years where well you know culminating with the jason our day thing right
02:13:03.720 where he's just telling these like outrageous stories that are obviously made up and all of
02:13:09.580 the academics just kind of have to like clap and be like yes of course you ran 35 marathons in 10
02:13:15.580 days or whatever the hell it was you know like like naturally you had brain cancer and underwent
02:13:21.840 brain surgery and had to relearn your entire dissertation three days before you defended and
02:13:27.680 still did it it's like yeah yeah of course of course all of this happened you know because you
02:13:31.660 can't question any of it because if you do that you're a morally bad person um it's exactly what
02:13:39.680 happened i love the implication that it's hard to get a medical deferment on a dissertation
02:13:47.580 seriously you can you can get it you can get a medical deferment for anything university
02:13:53.140 if you are in university right now and your essay and you're listening to us instead of writing your
02:13:59.820 essay, I strongly encourage you to, uh, to, if you, if the office doesn't close, go and claim
02:14:07.760 to have like a tummy aches, get a doctor's note, claim anxiety, whatever. And you'll get another
02:14:13.480 week to write that essay. Yep. Easily. Totally. And this has been going on for a while, for a long
02:14:18.280 time. Like I knew I had a, I knew, I knew a girl in university who, um, just decided not to go to
02:14:24.900 a final exam and then like three or four days after the exam just like went to the professor
02:14:29.900 and was like yeah it was that time of month i was having really bad cramps and like and he was like
02:14:35.700 okay come back at the end of the summer semester and you can you can write that exam you know in
02:14:43.780 the summer class now you might think that that only works for one gender you might think that's 0.95
02:14:51.560 okay that's a nice trick of your girl no no no what you do is you go and you claim to be gay 0.95
02:14:56.320 and you claim to have just had the most horrible experience with bottoming and you might think 0.94
02:15:05.220 that's horrifying and i i would never do that it's like and that's why you will never get get 0.95
02:15:12.100 tenure because you won't claim to be suffering from horrible gay related homes and that's how 0.85
02:15:19.100 you advance in academia either you claim period cramps or you claim or you claim incredible 0.96
02:15:26.760 rectal problems they're self-inflicted that's kind of true but uh i mean go back to the
02:15:33.280 we were talking about because they will d they will give you whatever you want the same way
02:15:39.540 with the period it almost always works um i mean sometimes with individual profs you might like if
02:15:45.560 you push it too far they'll be like you know you might hit a point where they're like screw you
02:15:49.740 uh but in general they just it's easier for them to just give you the extension or whatever 0.89
02:15:54.780 um but yeah i mean like they try to say screw you then you claim discrimination
02:16:02.020 and then all of those all of those sort of wild exaggerations that everyone had to like 0.99
02:16:08.620 mandatorily believe you know the soap and the lampshades and the masturbation machines and 0.98
02:16:15.260 all of it like in retrospect like you're looking back on it and you're like that's all really dumb 0.94
02:16:21.980 and like that never happened and then you kind of think like what about the rest of it
02:16:25.260 and and like that was enough to like kind of throw enough doubt on it right so i mean like
02:16:33.280 that was a thoroughly doubt on it people kind of wonder like a lot of it it happened but in the
02:16:39.780 ussr during the 20s exactly and then like you start finding and the reason you know that is
02:16:45.980 because the ussr they had like a ton of dead time where it's just like oh there's no food and this
02:16:52.740 is like like you know the horrors of war like the equivalent of the 30 years war playing out across
02:16:59.460 an entire like like country with no foreign intervention and no dynamic like time sensitive
02:17:05.860 war happening you know you know all the all the insane aggressive stuff like uh like this is why
02:17:13.300 it is narrowed down to like gas chambers and them shooting people in ditches you know gas chambers
02:17:19.720 working people to death starving people and shooting them in ditches because all of those
02:17:24.260 like uh all those aside from like weird eins and group and things that uh that uh
02:17:33.160 dare of anger was was up to like aside from like weird one-off prison battalions doing insane
02:17:39.660 stuff it's it's all narrowed down to like uh these these like four or five methods that you
02:17:48.320 see in them aside from the gas chambers that you see in every war they're very attached to the gas
02:17:53.660 chambers yeah they won't let the gas chambers uh the reason the reason that though that is is
02:18:00.020 because like uh this is the eastern front it's time sensitive you know you know this could go
02:18:06.700 either way either way you you can't wait resources committing horrifying atrocity
02:18:15.100 for its own for its own sake whereas you know the 1920s in like like the red the red terrors and
02:18:25.220 stuff they had nothing but time to come up with new horrifying atrocities and afflict that on
02:18:31.220 like the people of the eastern europe yeah and that's i think that you can see where there's 0.84
02:18:37.340 like a desire to roll those atrocities into oh that's the germans no yeah and of course like you
02:18:42.080 know all of all of the death camps were all on the soviet side shockingly um it's like all the
02:18:48.600 ones the ones that the americans investigated are just they were just like oh yeah no these
02:18:51.700 these were concentration camps so it's like it's funny how that worked out um but yeah i don't
02:18:57.780 want to get into like ball across revisionism that's a whole whole other thing you know and
02:19:01.380 i think that's also it's been done to death that's one of the things about that subject
02:19:04.580 actually is that like over the last 10 years like that horse has been beaten to death right
02:19:11.460 and then like the result and the result of that it's not like you know i've been convinced one
02:19:16.660 were the other and it's more that like it sort of it sort of took it broke the emotional conditioning
02:19:23.700 right like that's the key thing is that you can just like like younger people now they can just
02:19:30.300 kind of we can look at that and it's like it's like yeah it was an atrocity probably like there
02:19:37.980 were a lot of atrocities during that war there are atrocities in every war it's not even the worst
02:19:42.660 atrocity it's ever it's not the worst atrocity ever happened by raw numbers it's not the worst 0.77
02:19:47.240 atrocity that ever happened you know it's not it's not the most like fucked up thing that's 0.86
02:19:54.220 ever happened like it's not the only time that a group was targeted because of like you know 0.73
02:19:59.520 the group they belong to you know and like it's just totally you sort of go through the list and
02:20:03.580 you're like oh okay it was actually just kind of like a bog standard atrocity just amongst the
02:20:08.840 many other atrocities so well also we've had 40 years of people not seeing schindler's list
02:20:16.260 yeah yeah yeah totally you know although like i feel like schindler's list kind of backfired a
02:20:22.280 little bit because like i remember watching that as a teenager and you know just really talking
02:20:26.300 like other guys like i know i wasn't the only one who had this experience but like that um like the
02:20:31.140 the uh i forget the name of the actor but he's playing like the german commander um like guy
02:20:37.160 had drift yeah ralph finds you know it's like that scene where he's like sniping the the prisoners 1.00
02:20:42.820 and then he like unloads the cartridge on his girlfriend's butt and she's like oh you asshole 1.00
02:20:46.940 and he's like he laughs at her you know and he's like he's gonna watch that you're like oh yeah 1.00
02:20:50.820 like this guy's kind of badass you know like and um like obviously a total psychopath but like
02:20:56.040 you're watching this like a 15 year old boy like you're not like oh my god you're just kind of like
02:21:01.460 i don't know he looks good he's got a great job like
02:21:03.920 i had had an entire thing about this that um the reason it was like uh 1993 was almost exactly when
02:21:19.160 films started looking like really really realistic if you if you got like a like there
02:21:25.940 films in the 80s and whatnot that like look tight but uh but like spielberg like really
02:21:32.660 there's that they're saving private ryan and there was a few others that like
02:21:37.020 pre-did the language of like hyper realistic looking uh a war and uh like period pieces
02:21:45.720 and what happened which in schindler's list specifically like you look at it and uh it was
02:21:53.180 the first film to do that whilst also including all the cutting-edge effects from horror cinema
02:22:02.020 so like uh it's like the twin films of schindler's list and saving private ryan i'm convinced that
02:22:10.340 like for for the boomers who were live at the time and were not watching tons of horror movies
02:22:16.200 like and weren't following this like technological progression of like oh the squibs look this real 0.52
02:22:22.260 now the squibs look this real now you know you know the slashes have gotten this scary now
02:22:27.580 you know all these uh all these people who would never watch a scary movie in their life
02:22:32.780 suddenly oh this is a very important film you have to see and they go in to see the film and
02:22:38.300 for the first time in their life they're seeing like perfectly real looking violence and they're
02:22:44.120 absorbing it as a direct experience into their retinas which they're like weirdly which their
02:22:51.080 back brain is not capable of distinguishing from reality like intellectually consciously they know
02:22:55.740 it's not real yeah exactly this is really happening this is what videodrome is about
02:23:01.440 you know videodrome is about about you programming people with traumatic violence 0.68
02:23:07.360 this is what makes it so frustrating to talk to like a lot of baby marus and like you sort of
02:23:13.120 you sort of average lib is that like they like tv is actually is real to them like their entire
02:23:20.260 worldview has been formed by like moving images on the screen um and okay i mean like you know
02:23:27.320 we're not exempt from that ourselves obviously like we came up in that same culture exposed to
02:23:32.380 these same technologies but for whatever reason seem to have actually we are kind of exempt uh
02:23:39.680 and you listeners at home are probably kind of exempt because you grew up the primary mode of
02:23:45.000 like consumption you experience was not still like moving images that were
02:23:51.500 non-interactive you like your prime if you're listening to this your primary
02:23:56.160 medium was probably video games which are like a very different experience and
02:24:01.240 like somehow movies still have never looked as good as called cod for or like
02:24:08.860 crisis and like that kind of really breaks the spell of the propaganda
02:24:13.260 machine when it's like
02:24:15.000 But it's like, no, this will never look as good as those nerds in 2007 were able to get out of, like, my 512 megabyte graphics card. 1.00
02:24:24.820 It's remarkable what happens when you replace the entire dev team with women and minorities, right? 1.00
02:24:33.340 Please, Daryl Estar, go watch a, like, tech demo of Crysis and tell me that just still doesn't happen. 1.00
02:24:40.700 No, it is actually remarkable how computer graphics have effectively started to regress.
02:24:49.280 I'm not even a gamer, and I can just tell from watching demos.
02:24:54.960 But yeah, the graphics have actually just gotten worse in the last several years, which
02:24:59.780 tracks everything else. 0.98
02:25:01.040 Literature is crap now. 0.99
02:25:02.240 The movies are crap now. 1.00
02:25:03.340 The computer animation and that kind of movie is crap. 1.00
02:25:07.060 Everything's kind of gone to shit, and it's all for the same reason. 0.80
02:25:10.140 yeah but the like and that reason goes back to you know the theme of this episode uh of your of 0.75
02:25:18.540 your show which is um you know everything like morality is the opposite of whatever the bad
02:25:24.160 the bad austrian man thought uh and everything flows from there you know um in this case it's
02:25:34.880 In this case, like, you know, you have to, you know, morality is excising white men from contributing to video game development or script writing or directing or what have you.
02:25:52.280 And then when it turns out that, you know, the reality is that, like, that's where actually where most of the talent is, because that's where most of the talent has always been. 0.99
02:26:00.540 Everything goes to shit. 0.99
02:26:02.400 Who could have predicted it? 1.00
02:26:03.780 you know like um but yeah so like if you look at schindler's list as like a a media project
02:26:12.860 uh uh like like the power of that that it was like the most realistic visuals and the most
02:26:25.080 violent visuals in the most horrifying way directed towards streamed the eyeballs of
02:26:31.860 of the unsuspecting like like boomer public boomer and like early gen x public
02:26:39.860 public like unexpectedly in 1993 and that like you completely warped the moral universe by like
02:26:48.400 inflicting the trauma of like like all these scary movie techniques and all these techniques to make
02:26:54.220 it feel like like a real life documentary you know the black and white and all that uh like as soon
02:27:01.240 is they gave up like the technological preeminence in propaganda like uh like
02:27:07.960 the ability to morph narratives like really died with that because uh like now you know
02:27:17.760 it's still video games from the 2000s uh you know uh uh some weird art house projects and like
02:27:25.620 like heavy metal punk music punk music that like none of them are producing that's like no that's
02:27:34.940 like the most violent powerful media right now or like or like violent anime is probably like
02:27:40.440 the most shocking like like uh traumatic media you can flicked flicked on a person and as we
02:27:46.940 touched on earlier they don't make no they don't but also as we touched on earlier like
02:27:51.540 the uh propaganda vector of anime the worldview that it propagates is completely distinct from
02:28:00.640 what you get from hollywood it's one of the you know attractions of anime for the uh the thinking
02:28:07.500 kid you know it's like it's like it's it has a morally alien worldview from like the the sort
02:28:13.960 of hollywood standard morality which can be quite refreshing and interesting and thought-provoking
02:28:19.560 um but yeah i mean like hollywood's ability to propagandize is just completely because like now
02:28:26.520 they don't propagandize they preach you know um i don't know this is all like yeah i feel like
02:28:31.740 this is like you know wading into like we sound like a critical drinker you know it's like you
02:28:35.840 know you're youtube movie critic youtube right now um and like even that it's kind of like that's
02:28:43.400 been going on for so long that even like movie critic youtube is just kind of like so like why
02:28:48.540 so this is the thing why did animal sacrifices why are those so effective for like creating
02:28:54.500 religious experience and stuff and part of it is that it's like oh it's a collective experience of
02:29:00.140 violence you know it's a collective uh traumatic experience of violence you know instead of
02:29:05.460 watching schindler's lists schindler's list or like a scary horror movie or or you know akira
02:29:12.620 which in its own way is one of the most violent things i've ever made
02:29:16.660 slaughter a bull or something yeah and then yeah and that's a media experience for the
02:29:22.220 the audience and it's like the the fear and the like emotions and all that that that unlocks the
02:29:30.140 like the internal ability to rewrite people's people's more more codes like reify certain
02:29:38.040 simplicity um adds a bonding element to it right uh since you know you're all going along with this
02:29:45.740 you're all equally guilty of it or at least you all share in the guilt of it um and like
02:29:53.540 the only way to not have that be guilt is to find some way to transmute that um
02:30:02.620 so that it serves a higher purpose which in the animal sacrifices
02:30:06.040 i wouldn't put guilt is the primary thing there just because guilt like guilt has to be created
02:30:15.400 like uh like you look at and like most perniverse animals like do not experience
02:30:22.360 maybe this is just like my my sort of post-christian sort of like instinct um like most people like you
02:30:32.080 know if you see like an animal being slaughtered like you feel a certain sympathy with it like oh
02:30:37.900 that must suck you know like you know it doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna feel you're not
02:30:42.620 gonna like lose sleep over it probably unless you're like a five-year-old kid but you know if 0.98
02:30:46.240 you're like a five-year-old kid like you're probably gonna be like oh my god you know like
02:30:49.300 they just killed bambi or yeah traumatic empathy yeah the point though is that whatever the abstract
02:30:56.420 guilt has to be sure i mean if you want to yeah but like i mean that's not really it's kind of
02:31:00.280 tangential to the point which was was more about like you're having this collectively you're seeing
02:31:05.900 this thing that is evoking sort of negative emotions uh you know unpleasant emotions and
02:31:13.220 like you and then and you're complicit in this right like if just by the fact that like you're
02:31:18.980 watching all watching it together you're none of you were intervening to stop it from happening
02:31:22.400 um you're even pushing it along the videodrome signal is unlocked by violence and then in order
02:31:30.020 in order to sort of overcome those negative feelings you need to find a way to transmute it
02:31:36.160 which the animal sacrifice does directly because you're offering it to the god uh but you know um
02:31:42.640 with entertainment media you know it's like it's usually like the violence is like it's it there's
02:31:48.000 there's the catharsis of like oh but this is being done to the bad people or something you know um
02:31:53.440 like you know violence like against germans in world war ii movies is always like kind of payback
02:32:02.800 for the german violence against jews in world war ii movies sometimes even the same movie right
02:32:09.460 uh so like they've got it coming you know you can't you know there's no need to be sympathetic
02:32:14.040 to them even if they look noble and they fight well and they seem honorable like actually no 0.99
02:32:19.920 like they're they're just monsters so it's okay to kill them you know um yeah yes exactly we've 0.99
02:32:30.620 all seen that scene we've all seen uh inglorious bastards where the only noble characters in that 1.00
02:32:38.340 those movies are determined characters exactly that's like that's like the the sine qua non 0.71
02:32:44.740 i don't know if i pronounced it correctly of of that kind of that genre of movie right like um
02:32:50.900 it's so on the nose you almost wonder if tarantino was kind of um you know having a bit of a go at
02:32:59.680 them with that like one one does have to wonder i mean it's kind of similar with uh what was the
02:33:09.780 another one he had Django Unchained where it's just again it was just like so on the nose like 0.67
02:33:14.760 it's like either and like either it's just like the most artless fucking thing and he's just like
02:33:20.000 the worst lib in the world which is totally possible although like based on some of his 0.77
02:33:23.860 previous works you'd think he'd have a bit more of a sense of character and nuance and not just
02:33:30.680 be doing this like ham-fisted race hate propaganda but then it's like wait maybe that's kind of the
02:33:38.040 point that he's making you know like and he's got like all the hollywood weirdos kind of clapping
02:33:43.440 along being like oh isn't this wonderful and like actually he's just making them look really bad
02:33:50.240 because they're really you know django unchained for that was the first tarantino movie i saw that 0.98
02:33:53.500 left like a really bad taste in my mouth i was like what the fuck is this like this is this is 0.98
02:33:59.640 just revenge porn of a particular and it's revenge porn the targets people look like me this is 0.99
02:34:04.200 particularly uncomfortable you know and uh yeah no so i kind of wonder sometimes we're playing a
02:34:09.840 long game there maybe um anyway i gotta i gotta i gotta i gotta jet soon i got an early day tomorrow
02:34:16.440 and uh no absolutely uh so closing out back to wotan uh what we have discussed and what i hope
02:34:27.960 you will look into deeper readers is that this uh this temple of wotan by ron mcmahon and this
02:34:36.600 essay by carl young with that uh was republished by ron mcmahon this is like the rosetta stone
02:34:43.180 this is this is where um this is where all this like like hyperborea dual society uh
02:34:54.420 the the ss of sodden rad in in the castle this is where all all that is like consciously brought
02:35:04.280 forth into into the and like systematized and all these elements codified together
02:35:13.620 uh in the year 2000 specifically to permeate out and then become an online
02:35:21.280 line movement and all these characters again uh uh the foreword is written by an immediate student
02:35:29.380 of Carl Young Young's but uh McMahon himself is directly tied uh to Bob Mack to David Lane and
02:35:38.380 Bob Matthews of the Order directly tried to William Lither Pierce like like um this
02:35:44.360 this like system of of Norse paganism as a vector for esoteric Hitlerism
02:35:54.260 in an American context specifically referencing Jungian's psychology and
02:36:00.160 architects to metaphysically justify it it's all laid out like right right here
02:36:07.520 and and i i feel like i'm one of like 10 people i know who have who reference it or use any of
02:36:16.760 like it's filled with all this like weird heavy metal looking artwork like it's such a product
02:36:22.580 of the 90s and it's so like remarkable and like like it's so remarkable and like cute yeah i was
02:36:32.300 i was i was i was paging like overly earnest i was i was paging i was paging through the
02:36:39.420 scripts um or the archive.org version that you linked in the chat while you were while you were
02:36:46.940 reading just kind of like looking at the artwork and sort of like yeah it definitely has that kind
02:36:52.860 of like 90s zine kind of like feel to it you know um yes and yet it's very earnest it's a very
02:37:01.320 earnest book it's it's it's long too it's like what like 400 pages or something like
02:37:08.360 this thing's huge uh to have a whole hovamal in here like it's just like it's kind of a
02:37:16.000 compendium of like a whole bunch of yeah it's it's remarkable and it's
02:37:23.440 it's designed specifically to bring forth the type of culture that we see on the
02:37:31.240 internet today that like uh this uh this fluency with uh this this weird uh like american esoteric
02:37:41.500 hitlerism and and early 20th century germanic paganism like all mixing in this in this heavy
02:37:50.860 metal that'll blend like it's a it's it's a rosetta stone of all these cultural trends
02:37:57.700 consciously being brought together and uh uh david lane and like could you uh katya lane
02:38:06.100 uh like they're the ones who like if you've ever heard of the aryan brotherhood in a movie like 0.52
02:38:13.280 they're the ones who like to figure it out that they could they could create a a like white culture 0.99
02:38:23.640 in prison prisons around um norse paganism and that they could get these same privileges
02:38:32.320 that all the all the other religions get within prison so like so like all these uh interaction
02:38:41.320 all these uh coordination problems and all these uh spiritual like connect connection services uh
02:38:50.540 They had you went to, I think, the Supreme Court to get Norse paganism recognized by the American prison service.
02:39:00.540 And that today is like the way prisons in the West are structured.
02:39:07.120 Basically, if you can get officially recognized like religious status, like the Muslims have this, Jews very much have this, Christians have this.
02:39:17.780 like you have this broad coordinating vector and you get all these extra vegetation rights and
02:39:23.940 stuff as long as it's a religiously per person you have access to like books and you have to
02:39:29.120 have like prayer access made available to them do you they they did this like in the 90s and
02:39:36.880 2000s and now this is like a staple of american prison life that uh they're like people who go
02:39:44.280 to prison, very quickly convert to Norse paganism because, you know, you get all these, all
02:39:55.400 these interactions and like social connections and access and like.
02:40:03.800 Protection.
02:40:04.900 Without having to interact with like some prison approved Southern Baptist or what have
02:40:10.000 you.
02:40:10.560 You get protection as well.
02:40:12.900 Yes, exactly.
02:40:14.280 And we, uh, you can already see like all the percolations of this.
02:40:19.600 We were talking about, before we started, uh, uh, we were talking about, uh, uh, there's
02:40:25.060 an entire section in this book on, on Freya and the cult of Freya, the fertility, uh,
02:40:31.740 war goddess and goddess of like magic and mystery of the Norse Pantheon.
02:40:36.700 And, like, when Shiloh Hendricks called that guy the N-word in Minneapolis,
02:40:45.420 she's wearing a pendant of Freya.
02:40:49.140 And you can see this, like, vulture, like, quietly permeating throughout, like, the entire, like.
02:40:58.820 Yeah, when we were chatting before, you put it pretty well.
02:41:02.240 You're like, she's wearing this pendant of Freya, and she invokes the word of power, you know, on camera, daring the fates, basically.
02:41:16.540 And Freya rewards her with a million dollar payout from Give, Send, Go.
02:41:23.180 Her courage in doing that was rewarded.
02:41:26.620 yes and uh freya is like very much the goddess of racism right uh she has her speech she gives
02:41:35.560 it within uh i can't recall if it's the ediths or the sagas or like uh where freya says it but
02:41:42.040 she gives these instructions that uh that her her daughters and german women are not to race 0.63
02:41:48.880 mix with the sammy or the other peoples and stuff that they will lose their magic if they do that 1.00
02:41:54.120 so 0.99
02:41:56.420 you can imagine the little pen
02:41:58.560 calling out to
02:41:59.640 Shiloh, say it's Shiloh
02:42:02.960 say the word of power
02:42:04.040 but yeah
02:42:06.780 so this has been
02:42:07.920 Carl Jung's
02:42:09.680 Wotan
02:42:11.200 it's at once like
02:42:14.540 one of the most
02:42:15.400 pregnant with meaning
02:42:18.560 texts that you could ever imagine
02:42:20.860 because he's writing it in 36
02:42:22.480 like right before the wild hunt is going to like sweep away 80 million European souls and yet like
02:42:30.280 like even as someone who who is is a very strong adherent of uh of European paganism uh
02:42:40.800 there's something about it that's uh that's so like like it's so enchanting of the world it
02:42:49.020 it like becomes there's uh something like like still funny about it and like like kind of like
02:42:57.800 like it's like they're the magic is oozing out of it to an extent that like you have to you have
02:43:05.900 to laugh at the like the humor and just the whimsy of it in a lot of ways like uh well yeah i i'm 0.93
02:43:13.720 surprised i'm surprised there's an entire series on youtube of like of like leftists and shit libs 0.93
02:43:20.320 uh reading this stuff and just be like this is what this is what the neo-nazis literally believe 0.53
02:43:27.780 like you'd you'd imagine that'd be great content for them but you would think so you would think
02:43:33.620 so because it's like this is this is so stylish and like like whimsical and like it's like that
02:43:42.140 there was a meme kicking around
02:43:44.540 a couple years ago about
02:43:45.840 left-wing conspiracies versus
02:43:48.500 right-wing conspiracies. The left-wing
02:43:50.380 conspiracies, like, did you see what the CIA
02:43:52.440 did, man? They rigged this election
02:43:54.260 and the right-wing conspiracy is
02:43:56.480 just like, you know, full, like, Agartha
02:43:58.800 or UFOs 0.65
02:44:01.000 like Nazi flying saucers
02:44:02.480 and 0.68
02:44:02.920 it's like, yeah, yeah
02:44:06.420 we got the best conspiracy theories
02:44:08.340 Anyhow, man
02:44:09.500 I gotta go
02:44:11.720 It's been great having you, John.
02:44:13.720 Thank you so much for having me.
02:44:14.980 I will link your article on the re-enchantment of the world.
02:44:23.080 Check out John Carter at Postcards at Barsoom on Substack.
02:44:28.480 I will link that as well.
02:44:29.820 And on Twitter at Martian Warlord.
02:44:34.460 Have a great one, listeners.
02:44:36.180 And you out there, stay glorious.
02:44:41.720 Why ain't power revolution be the only solution, man?
02:44:47.720 Why ain't power revolution be the only solution, man?
02:44:52.720 Why ain't power revolution be the only solution, man? 0.89
02:44:57.720 We held Adolf Hitler around there, 0.90
02:45:01.720 every kind boy can fear. 0.93
02:45:04.720 Newark, India, and Africa, and the Middle East 1.00
02:45:09.720 Middle East, blowing up the three gorges down, we're doing a military invasion of China soon, kill every single black and every single goon. 1.00
02:45:19.720 Hail the founding fathers, report every black to the cold dead void of space, murder all blacks with chainsaws and hammers. 1.00
02:45:35.720 Why ain't power revolution be the only solution, mom? 1.00
02:45:41.540 Why ain't power revolution be the only solution, mom? 1.00
02:45:47.520 Nuke every single country in Latin America 0.99
02:45:51.020 But use half of the nukes from Brazil just to be sure 1.00
02:45:56.980 I don't want even a single one to escape 0.97
02:46:01.740 Even once that's done, there's an entire global 18's belt
02:46:07.380 Reaching from Argentina 0.94
02:46:11.480 To Venezuela
02:46:14.320 Up to Mexico 0.79
02:46:16.820 New Mexico even 1.00
02:46:20.240 And it go across the South Atlantic, Morocco 0.90
02:46:25.140 Algeria, Tunisia, all them 1.00
02:46:28.120 And it don't keep going 1.00
02:46:29.980 And eventually the Arabs a lot in next to Iraq 0.98
02:46:33.540 Syria, Iran, Yemen, Oman 1.00
02:46:36.320 I want there to be no men or women 1.00
02:46:39.520 Then it goes to the worst part, Pakistan and India 1.00
02:46:43.360 Full of literal human, you know what's everywhere 1.00
02:46:48.880 God, it's disgust me to such a great end 1.00
02:46:54.980 Every time an Indian is born 1.00
02:46:59.200 Mother Nature weeps in Aghani 1.00
02:47:01.200 Need to know the global Latin belt 1.00
02:47:04.200 Belt into smithereen 1.00
02:47:07.200 Nuke every single country 0.97
02:47:10.200 Nuke every single country
02:47:13.200 Nuke every single country
02:47:16.200 Except beautiful England
02:47:19.200 And beautiful Scotland
02:47:22.200 And beautiful Ireland
02:47:25.200 And beautiful Deutschland
02:47:28.200 And beautiful from Christ
02:47:30.360 And beautiful sweary dance
02:47:33.200 And beautiful Norway
02:47:36.040 And beautiful everywhere
02:47:38.580 We got you safe all the blue rock
02:47:40.700 Nuke everywhere besides Europe
02:47:43.580 Hail it love
02:47:46.380 Hail it love
02:47:58.180 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
02:48:28.180 Bye-bye.
02:48:58.180 I love you, I love you, I love you