00:06:54.540extent of time that they cannot act on it that they they lose the rights to it i was actually
00:07:00.080so i was looking a little bit more deeply into this like sort of broadly it's out of like just
00:07:03.400like the purely political cultural aspect of it uh recently you remember that story a couple of
00:07:09.560months ago when um you're digressing i i had this entire structure and totally digressing this is a
00:07:16.960great digression though you're the you're the one invited me on uh you know like anthropic was like
00:07:21.360you know chewing up like all of these books like destroying them to like feed
00:07:24.600them into a just scan like for into an industrial scanner so that the reason
00:07:30.180for AI training data and it turned out first of all the reason they were
00:07:33.840destroying them was because that way there was only one copy from a physical
00:07:38.280copy that they had bought at a you know store basically to a digital copy so all
00:07:45.720you've done is transfer the copy and then they can't release the digital copy
00:07:49.260online because that would be a copyright violation so it all has to stay locked
00:07:53.660up so literally the copyright law created the environment for that mass
00:07:58.140destruction of physical books and and yeah apparently it's basically
00:08:04.080everything between about 1923 and the present is just missing so like all the
00:08:13.520all these books like published like the 1930s and 40s and 50s like unless it was
00:08:17.520like a major bestseller like they're just like gone because the the copyright holder it's still
00:08:23.140under copyright rights holder doesn't want to publish it because there's no market for it
00:08:26.980so it just sits there in the vault or sometimes they don't even know who owns the rights to it
00:08:32.360and no one wants to take the risk of like you know publishing something that they don't own
00:08:36.820the rights to and then the rights holder comes along and says that's mine you know so it's not
00:08:40.140even always political is the point like it's just like this structure of copyright law itself is
00:08:44.440like excised this huge crater in the literary legacy of the 20th century um sorry for the
00:08:55.440digression no that that is a a good deep dive into the the start of it yes but uh the book we
00:09:05.120are discussing today is i think it's even public domain now which is weird because there's published
00:09:12.060in like the year 2000 but i think they just like purposely led selecting to public domain once they
00:09:17.600made their money and the core author died so despite the fact that a physical copy now costs
00:09:23.660like 1500 now costs thousands of dollars it's yeah it was like two thousand dollars on amazon
00:09:30.500and i checked it earlier today i'd never i'd never heard at the moment and i'd never heard
00:09:36.700so today we are discussing this is there are a few like red rosetta stones in like right-wing
00:09:49.800thought where it's like that's the one work that connects these disparate traditions so like uh
00:09:57.880one i always recommend uh if you're interested in the history of the 20th century is uh iron
00:10:04.480curtain over america which is also up on on uh archive for free to read uh by uh colonel john
00:10:14.220beaty who was writing in like 1953 about uh about the history of judaism in the democratic party in
00:10:22.360america and how that that led up to world war ii and he wrote this in like 1951 53 and the first
00:10:31.660page is just a list of like u.s flag officers praising like admirals and generals and he goes
00:10:40.240into this exquisite detail he's a professor of eastern european languages uh about the history
00:10:47.740of the teutonic knights and the causers you know the exact same speech that vladimir putin gave on
00:10:53.800tucker uh john beattie's giving that exact speech in 1951 and then he just goes through every issue
00:11:00.460that has become like the the like non-boomer right like everything of the like like distant
00:11:08.880right sphere that like cares about uh you know the sovereignty of like nations uh he goes through
00:11:16.620every single issue of that and had like five six editions in the 1950s and i completely disappeared
00:11:23.160like it was one of the best sellers of the 1950s and i've just been like disappeared from public
00:11:28.200memory and you read it and you realize this is like the rosetta stone this is the thing that
00:11:32.980connects the old right to uh like like the post 60s far right that you like saw every issue coming
00:11:42.340and talk about every issue and and that's the rosetta stone about the history aspect uh and
00:11:50.300and we are not going to be discussing iron curtain over america today we're going to be discussing
00:11:56.300again ron mcbann's temple wotan which is maybe the like fount from which agartha flows
00:12:05.140like uh this is this book um so if i was to summarize like the the popular twitter conception
00:12:14.440of like weird esoteric uh horse paganism mixed with like like a weird nazi hitlerism
00:12:24.420and you know if you go to the south pole you'll be met by yakub and hitler and uh and hulk hogan0.69
00:12:33.320and john mcgaffey and they'll give you and charlie kirk yeah and they'll feed you the white monster
00:12:39.400energy drink like where does that all come from uh so and everyone has this vague idea that like
00:12:45.760like oh there's these like modern pagans who are reviving this thing from like the 1930s and 20s
00:12:52.720that like there's the dual society and like Heimlich Himmler was into like Norse paganisms
00:12:58.160and like Wagner fits into it and and you know you you have all these like little lights and data
00:13:07.560points but uh it's like well how how the hell did you get from like Wagner in the 18 like 70s
00:13:14.720You know, these weird pagans in Germany in the 1910s, the Nazis in the 1930s, the metalheads in the 80s, to now, you know, Charlie Kirk is feeding you the white monster in the South Pole.
00:13:29.680you know these these are like wildly different times and places uh like even the 1980s to today
00:13:38.180like like okay it's kind of related to metal why why don't they have big hair you know you know
00:13:47.240none of this quite holds together and then you read this and you see it all hold together perfectly
00:13:53.300And the actual characters interact with each other, like, knowingly and willingly, trying to will this, like, revival of Norse paganism mixed with, like, far-right politics into existence.
00:14:10.340And that is what we are going to be discussing today.
00:14:12.700specifically we are going to be discussing uh uh carl young's uh we're going to be discussing
00:14:23.220carl young's essay wotan in which he talks about the one time he saw adolf hitler in person
00:14:31.600and and you swore that he saw a the the god of norse mythology in his eyes
00:14:40.940and that might sound insane to you and like like a non-sequitur wait how does this relate to curl
00:14:49.200curl young and yet uh and yet this essay that young wrote uh in the 1930s
00:15:01.140because yeah imagine at the time of the 1930s it wasn't it wasn't really like uh
00:15:08.860like the esoteric paganism that like the chairmans were doing at the time like a
00:15:14.760like a the the nazi state wasn't really endorsing it that explicitly or like it's like okay but
00:15:25.380keep it quiet you know we don't want to be dealing with this and like you scaring the voter base
00:15:30.760and like the general public because like contrary to popular belief uh and the nazis were very
00:15:38.320keenly aware of public opinion uh they were very keenly aware that like uh they're like the core
00:15:44.200of hitler's voter base was were women who were attracted to him and he they didn't want to spook
00:15:49.340them but uh and those women were mostly like catholics or like lutherans or something you0.99
00:15:55.180know yeah yeah they're they were like normal country yeah german country women from like the
00:15:59.6001930s they weren't into like and they're like esoteric like wotenism or or like you know0.69
00:16:05.240it's like oh yeah the ss can do that in a in castle wolfenstein or wherever but uh but keep0.71
00:16:13.780it quiet guys like was the attitude and and so how does that transform into like like the far
00:16:22.660right that we have today today and this essay by Carl Jung who was like not part of the Nazi regime
00:16:30.900at all like uh he was he was like a Viennese psychologist he was actually a student of
00:16:39.660Sigmund Freud who like uh who broke with Freud and went off to do his own thing he writes
00:16:45.920a he produces like basically what will become the metaphysics of like post 19 of like post
00:16:54.9201950s paganism like uh the idea of like architect younging in archetypes and like the deep psychology
00:17:01.900of like of um the deep psychology of the human mind and the recurring uh archetypes of the
00:17:10.560of the spirit uh persisting through culture but also like uh within like blood memory all these
00:17:18.520concepts date date to young and this is why you can honestly this is why you can have the pagan
00:17:26.500revival because because suddenly all the questions of like well do you think thor actually physically
00:17:32.120exists it is is like well that's kind of irrelevant uh you know in the most materials
00:17:41.660conception like he's still very important for for like your culture and how your ethnicity
00:17:49.640conceives itself and like like how you're supposed to actualize and how you relate to your ancestors
00:17:55.460everything else like uh like you can say oh this is the atheist recreating religion without belief
00:18:02.940but it's like well if he's that important like uh if the gods are that important even a purely
00:18:10.420materialistic sense as soon as you assume like there's some spiritual reality whatsoever it's
00:18:15.140like oh obviously these are very very important you know you know either either the like
00:18:22.980like either the christians are right and they're demons or they are the like embodiment of your
00:18:29.140your ancestors and like the continuity of your people and and so this
00:18:38.460this metaphysics that young comes up with kind of resolves a lot of the the problems with like uh
00:18:47.100having a paganism in the 20th, 20th century. And from, and more importantly, this one essay he
00:18:59.160writes about Adolf Hitler, um, and it becomes a basis of like, of the far right pagan revival
00:19:08.220in america in the 1980s and we are going to see this uh
00:19:13.700as so ron mcmahon's temple wotan who is ron mcmahon uh so ron mcmahon uh this this work i'm
00:19:25.120just reading to the front it's a co-ed co-edited by patia lane who is katia lane patia lane is
00:19:35.920the wife of david lane uh the terrorist from the order uh or uh the silent brotherhood depending
00:19:44.520on how much of a stickler from name jar uh so the order was a the started by bob matthews
00:19:52.380in the 1980s was a group inspired by uh william luther pierce and the broader far-right milieu
00:20:00.740of the 1970s that they tried to basically start a direct, like, guerrilla war against the U.S.
00:20:12.000government. Like, they were knocking off armored tars and robbing pornography stores and building
00:20:21.140this, like, criminal empire through armed robbery that was actually going quite successfully in the
00:20:27.420pacific northwest in the 1980s there's a film version of this uh starring nicola nicolas holt
00:20:34.160as uh bob matthews called the order from like 2005 i'll include in the show notes oh yeah i
00:20:40.700watched that years ago the whole that documentary that was um some very interesting stuff
00:20:46.440yeah the documentary uh i'm talking about the drama movie there's a documentary okay i didn't
00:20:54.500realize that there was a drama movie made about it yeah the it it has jude law is the angry drunken0.98
00:21:00.380uh fbi agent who went after them which apparently that was like playing down how much of an asshole0.94
00:21:05.980the actual fbi agent was like this is what his colleagues were saying about him like they0.92
00:21:10.460the documentary is also worth watching um it uh do you remember the title of the documentary
00:21:17.800no it was i found it on youtube back in like probably 2017 or 2018 or something yeah it's
00:21:25.420almost the book is the silent brotherhood which i'm working my way through
00:21:29.180no i mean they in the documentary they interview uh i forget the guy's name not bob matthews
00:21:37.680obviously because he was dead uh but um one of the one of the guys in the order that was
00:21:43.820you know captured and arrested and is still in jail i think to this day uh because they locked
00:21:50.060them all up for life right threw away the key and they're interviewing him and this guy like
00:21:55.060his conviction has not wavered like he has the light of true fanaticism that might have been
00:22:02.340david lane that they were interviewing oh maybe it was maybe it was yeah yeah i wouldn't surprise
00:22:07.240So David Lane goes to prison, and the thing is, the money, this is the, part of this is getting into urban legend territory, but the conspiracy, the theory is, and this is the just-so story that white nationals and memers tell their kids on, this is the stuff that's said on 4chan late at night, is that the millions of dollars they stole were never found.
00:22:37.140And David Lane, the guy who was most likely to have had the money, was an arch-turb believer, and he was in prison for life.
00:22:48.100He gave it to where he lived with his.
00:22:53.420So there's that theory, but there's also the white nationalists all have a first-mover advantage on the Internet from the start.
00:23:02.740like uh they have websites when a website is a very hard thing to have
00:23:07.460and true storm a long time ago wasn't it yeah so the theory is that these millions of dollars
00:23:16.260they poured back in to internet messaging and that's why the internet is far right to this day
00:23:22.440is because it's because bob matthew died to make frogs on the internet uh you know i was i was
00:23:30.820already run into this stuff like back and like yeah the 90s um yeah it wouldn't surprise me i
00:23:36.080mean like and it was already there i my sort of guess is that the money they got from knocking
00:23:41.700over that armored car they just kind of spread it around like i like you know william luther
00:23:46.380pierce somehow came into like a million bucks um you know bought a ranch starts a record label like
00:23:53.880i'm sure that was not the idea of william winter pierce running a record label is hilarious oh
00:24:02.180it's so funny um but i mean he's a man with a lisp but i mean he basically ended up being like
00:24:08.200single-handedly responsible for most of the skinhead music scene back in the 1990s right
00:24:12.200um right right it was huge uh uh i'm i'm sure that was not the only venture that that uh that
00:24:20.560capital got put into so so this is the thing so david lane his wife kitch
00:24:27.400good job kajita lane uh she's she's free and
00:24:33.300let me just check them pronouncing that right uh katya lane uh
00:24:41.400uh-huh yeah k-a-t-j-a katya katya it's katya oh i i'm not uh sorry uh uh skyrim has fried my
00:24:57.540brain but uh she's but all these figures that were like very tightly associated with uh the order
00:25:06.120uh they they immediately afterwards they all convert to norse paganism and they all start
00:25:15.780sort of pushing paganism as the uh is the next is the thing that they need to do part of this
00:25:23.420is william mutter pierce himself and uh and uh well he had his own thing william gailey simpson
00:25:30.380who i'm doing on the other podcast series i think was his he's trying to start an entirely new
00:25:36.920religion yeah so um so william luther pierce had abandoned christianity william gailey simpson who
00:25:47.360were covering with bernhilder in uh the other series series uh she uh the which way west man
00:25:56.440series uh he had like left um william j lee simpson had left uh being a wandering franciscan
00:26:06.280monk and become like an arch Nietzschean so so at this exact moment like in the aftermath of like
00:26:15.440bob matthew's glorious immolation in a house being burned alive by the fbi in in the pacific
00:26:23.360northwest um in the aftermath of this they had money time and like a bunch of guys in prison
00:26:31.060with nothing else to do who just decided we are going to recreate norse paganism as a strictly
00:26:38.300white nationalist religion uh reamed and at the center of this like how do you how do you take
00:26:47.740the Norse cosmology and and merge it with like a 20th century uh white nationalism like uh how do
00:26:57.000you do that metaphysically in a way that's not just like oh yeah these are both things we like
00:27:01.660at the center of it is this essay Wotan by Carl Jung and you get a feel for for how close they
00:27:11.320were to the actual youngians uh i'm going to start with the forward written by michael
00:27:17.020miguel serrano oh yeah who was a a close acolyte of young and like actually
00:27:25.800knew him well so i'm going to start with so you are going to so this is like i tried to make that
00:27:35.600all sound is coherent and historical why not but basically what you're what this what this podcast
00:27:43.760is dear reader is we're going to discover the origins of esoteric pagan hitlerism via carl
00:27:52.760young that gets us to our gartha we we are tracking this down we are finding the fount of hyperborea
00:27:59.440we are we are i am showing you how deep the rabbit hole goes in this like unity of unities
00:28:07.040and and so i'll start with the forward to uh temple wotan uh i will then
00:28:16.040skip ahead past like all the norse pay pagan stuff which is all interesting but like uh
00:28:23.460But, like, separate from this essential piece I want to show you, we're going to go through the forward, then the introduction to the essay, and then we're going to actually read Carl Jung's Wotan.
00:28:39.200and and from this i i hope you'll see just how like ready made this weird internet like meme
00:28:51.280subculture was and how every every time uh charlie kirk and yakub and and the gods and agartha
00:29:03.000offer the white monster uh it's actually meaning for the uh woe tan himself in the form of adolf
00:29:12.180hitler that is the most strange sentence i've ever spoken in my life but this is the world we live in0.68
00:29:21.080now we live in uh we live in ron mcmahon and david lane's world and it's all coming forth
00:29:29.240the memes are summoning it. So, John, do you have anything to say before I dive in?
00:32:29.180It was the German Schittstafel who, one way or another, without the need to declare it, caused the resurrection of the path of the externeen.0.89
00:32:40.200The Schittstafel, that's the SS rest, right?0.81
00:41:05.960He should learn that he is not the master in his own house, and that he should carefully
00:41:10.100study the other side of his psychic psychical world which seems to be the true ruler of his
00:41:17.520fate i know this is merely a pious wish the fulfillment of which demands century but in each
00:41:24.800aeon there are at least a few individuals who understand that man's real task consists of and
00:41:30.800keeps its tradition for future generations at a time when its insight has reached a deeper and
00:41:36.980more general level. First, the wave of a few will be changed and in a new generation there will be
00:41:48.360more. It is most likely that the general mind within this or even in the next generation will
00:41:53.600undergo a noticeable change. As present, man seems to be quite incapable of realizing that under a
00:41:59.840certain aspect he is a stranger to himself. But whoever is capable of such insight, no matter how
00:42:05.620isolated he is to beware of the law of synchronicity. As the old Chinese saying goes,
00:42:11.240the right man sitting in his house and thinking the right thought will be heard a hundred miles
00:42:16.220distant. Neither propaganda nor exhibitionist confessions are needed. If the archetype which
00:42:23.120is universal, i.e. identical with itself, always in anywhere, is properly dealt with in one place,
00:42:29.260only it is influenced as a whole i.e. simultaneously and everywhere thus an old alchemist gave the
00:42:37.240falling consolation to one of his disciples no matter how isolated you are and how lonely you
00:42:42.920feel if you do your work truly and consciously unknown friends will come and seek you it seems
00:42:50.240to me that nothing essential has ever been lost because its matrix is ever present with us
00:42:55.660and from this it can and will be reproduced if needed but those can recover it but those can
00:43:02.900recover it who have learned the art of averting their eyes from the blinding light of current
00:43:07.720opinions and close their ears to the noise of ephemeral slogans you rightly say with him
00:43:14.220motelui the dutch with moltetuli the dutch philosopher nothing is quite true and should
00:43:24.460to add with him, and even this is not quite sure. The intellect can make its profound statement
00:43:30.540that there is no absolute truth, but if somebody loses his money, his money is lost, and this is
00:43:36.240as good as an absolute truth, which means that he will not be consoled by the intellect like
00:43:41.960profundity. There is a thing like convincing truth, but we have lost sight of it, owing mostly
00:43:49.820to our gambly intellect, to which we sacrifice our moral certainty and gain thereby nothing
00:43:55.780but an inferiority complex, which, by the way, characterizes Western politics.
00:44:03.820As an aside, that is an amazing little insight that by sacrificing our moral certainty, we've
00:44:15.560only engaged in an inferiority complex ah hold that thought to be is to do and to make but as
00:44:28.440our existence does not depend solely upon our ego will thus our doing and making depends largely
00:44:34.440upon the dominant of the unconscious i'm not only willing out of my ego but i am also made to be
00:44:41.400creative and active to be quiet is only good for someone who has been too too or perversely active
00:44:48.920otherwise it is a natural artifice which unnecessarily interferes without nature
00:44:55.860we grow up we blossom and we wilt and death is ultimate quietude or so it seems but much depends
00:45:03.120upon the spirit i.e. the meaning or significance in which we do and make or in other words we live
00:45:09.560This spirit expresses itself or manifests itself in a truth which is indubitably and absolutely convincing to the whole my being in spite of the fact that the intellect in its endless ramblings will continue forever with its but-ifs, which, however, should not be suppressed, but rather be welcomed as occasion to improve your truth.
00:45:33.900In a letter to Jung, which glistens eerily prophetic with today's hindsight, Sereno concludes,
00:45:39.920It is even possible that your work and mine will yield fruit in someone who is yet to be born.
00:45:47.940The work of today is harvested tomorrow, and it is also possible that that person who is to be born somewhere in the future will also be one of us again.
00:45:57.520Even so, since time is an illusion, our work produces instantaneous results.
00:46:05.340It is proper and necessary that contemporary loneliness understand the origins of Wotan consciousness
00:46:10.840and the roots of its modern resurgence,
00:46:13.660only by being firmly secured in the hero, historical foundation of our ethnic spirituality.
00:46:21.600Only by being firmly secured, this is McManigan,
00:46:25.220Only by being firmly secured in the historical foundation of our ethnic spirituality
00:46:29.880can there be hope for a future, a realization of the 14 words.0.98
00:46:34.360We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.0.93
00:46:39.680And there then follows an illustration of Carl Jung chopping wood in the 1950s.1.00
00:47:22.640I was trying to look for the authorship of it. The book itself doesn't stay.
00:47:29.800Medical psychotherapy, for practical reasons, has to deal with the whole of the psyche.
00:47:33.900Therefore, it is bound to come to terms with all of those factors, biological as well as social and mental, which have a vital influence on psychic life.
00:47:42.520We are living in times of great disruption.
00:47:46.800Internal upheavals have brought nations to the brink of chaos, and the very foundations of our Wilton John are shattered.
00:47:52.640this critical state of things has such a tremendous influence on the psychic life of the individual that the doctor must follow its effects with more than usual attention the storm of events does not sweep down upon him only from the great world outside he feels the violence of its impact even in the quiet of his consulting room and the privacy of the medical consultation
00:48:11.820As he has a responsibility towards his patients, he cannot afford to withdraw to the peaceful island of undisturbed scientific work,
00:48:19.220but must constantly descend into the arena of world events in order to join in the battle of conflicting passions and opinions.
00:48:26.540Were he to remain aloof from the tumult, the calamity of his time would reach him only from afar,
00:48:33.760and his patient suffering would find neither ear nor understanding.
00:48:38.540He would be at a loss to know how to talk to him.
00:48:41.820and to help him out of his isolation. For this reason, the psychologist cannot avoid coming to
00:48:47.940grips with contemporary history, even if his very soul shrinks from the political uproar,
00:48:53.760the lying propaganda, and the jarring speeches of the demagogues. We need not mention his duties
00:49:00.340as a citizen, which confront him with a similar task. As a physician, he's a higher obligation
00:49:06.480to humanity in this respect. From time to time, therefore, I felt obliged to step beyond the usual
00:49:13.300bounds of my profession. The experience of the psychologist is of a rather special kind,
00:49:18.820and it seemed to me that the general public might find it useful to hear his point of view.
00:49:23.920This was hardly a far-fetched conclusion, for surely the most naive of laymen could not fail
00:49:29.840to see that many contemporary figures and events were positively asking for psychological
00:49:34.720elucidation? Were psychopathic symptoms ever more conspicuous than in the contemporary political
00:49:41.180scene? It has never been my wish to meddle in the political questions of the day, but in the course
00:49:48.020of the years I have written a few papers which give my reactions to current events. The present
00:49:54.820book contains a collection of these original essays, all written between 1936 and 1946. It is
00:50:04.040natural enough that my thoughts should have been especially concerned with Germany, which had been
00:50:08.660a problem to me ever since the First World War. My statements have evidently led to all manner of
00:50:15.320misunderstandings, which are chiefly due, no doubt, to the fact that my psychological point of view
00:50:20.240strikes many people as new and therefore strange. Instead of embarking upon lengthy arguments in an
00:50:26.000attempt to clear up these misunderstandings, I have found it simpler to collect all the passages
00:50:30.820in my other writings which deal with the same theme
01:03:44.660and the Cosmon, and the Cosmogonic Eros.
01:03:49.800No doubt it sounds better to academic ears to interpret these things as Dionysus.
01:03:54.620But Wotan might be a more correct interpretation.0.68
01:03:57.160He is the god of storm and frenzy, the unleasher of passions and the lust of battle.
01:04:02.720Moreover, he is a superlative magician and artist in illusions who is versed in all secrets of an occult nature.
01:04:11.700Nietzsche's case is certainly a peculiar one.
01:04:14.840He had no knowledge of Germanic literature.
01:04:16.880He discovered the cultural Philistine and the announcement that God is dead led to Zarathustra's meeting with an unknown god in unexpected form,
01:04:29.080who approached him sometimes as an enemy and sometimes disguised as Zarathustra himself.
01:04:35.140Zarathustra, too, was a soothsayer, a magician, and the storm went.
01:04:41.060uh this is a quotation and like a wind shall i come to blow among them and with my spirit
01:04:49.820shall take away the breath of their spirit thus my feature wills it truly a strong wind in
01:04:55.980xerathutra is all that are low and this counsel gives he to his enemies and to all that spit and
01:05:05.700spew beware of spitting against the wind and when xerathustra dreamed that he was guardian of the
01:05:14.000graves in the lone mountain forest of death it was making a mighty effort to open the gates suddenly
01:05:20.260a roaring wind tore the gates asunder whistling shrieking and keening it cast a black coffin
01:05:28.860before me and amid the roaring whistling and shrieking the coffin burst open and spouted a
01:05:34.720thousand peals of laughter. The disciple who interpreted the dream said to Zarathustra,
01:05:42.180Are you not yourself the wind with shrill whistling which first opened the gates of the
01:05:48.280fortress to death? Are you not yourself the coffin filled with life's gay malice and angel grimaces?0.99
01:05:56.420in 1863 or 1864 in his poem to the unknown god Nietzsche had written i shall and will know the0.95
01:06:06.520unknown one who searches out the depths of my soul and blows through my life like a storm
01:06:12.540and grass bull and yet my kinsman i shall will know thee and serve thee
01:06:18.54020 years later in his mistrial song he wrote
01:06:23.700mistra mistral wind taster of clouds killer of gloom sweeper of the skies raging storm
01:06:39.640wind how i love thee are we not both diverse fruits of the same wound forever predestined
01:06:46.420to the same fate? In the Dithyrem known as Adrian's Ariadne's lament, Nietzsche is completely
01:06:59.400the victim of the hunter god. Stretched out shuddering like a half-dead thing whose feet
01:07:04.960are warm, shaken by unknown fevers, shivering with piercing ice, frost arrows, hunted by
01:07:11.540thee oh thought unutterable veiled horrible one thou huntsman behind the clouds strept down by
01:07:19.440the lightning bolt thou mocking eye that stares at me from the dark thus i lie writhing twisting
01:07:25.420tormented with all eternal torture smitten by thee cruel huntsman thou unknown god
01:07:32.100this remarkable image of the hunter god is not a mere dithyrambic figure of speech
01:07:40.280but is based on an experience which Nietzsche had when he was 15 years old at Peforta.
01:07:49.680It is described in a book by Nietzsche's sister, Elizabeth Forrester Nietzsche.
01:07:55.240As he was wandering about in a gloomy wood at night,
01:07:58.060he was terrified by a blood-curdling shriek from a neighboring lunatic asylum.
01:08:03.060And soon afterwards, he came face to face with a huntsman whose features were wild and uncanny.
01:08:10.280Tending his whistle to his lips, in a valley surrounded by wild shrub, the huntsman blew such a shrill blast that Nietzsche lost consciousness, but woke up again in Forta.
01:08:24.540It was a nightmare. It is significant that in his dream, Nietzsche, who in reality intended to go to Isleben, Luther's town, discussed with the huntsmen the question of going instead to Tuchenwald, Valley of the Germans.
01:08:41.200No one with ears can misunderstand the shrill whistling of the storm god in the nocturnal wood.
01:08:48.600Was it really only the classical philologist in Nietzsche that led to the god being called Dionysus instead of Wotan?
01:08:56.260Or was it perhaps due to his faithful meeting with Wagner?
01:09:01.560Is Reich-O-Ram, which was first published in 1919, Bruno Gatz saw the secret of coming events in Germany in the form of a very strange vision?
01:09:11.200i've never forgotten this low book for it struck me at the time as a forecast of the german weather
01:09:17.900it anticipates the conflict between the realm of ideals and of and life between wotan's dual
01:09:24.600nature as goddess storm and goddess secret musings wotan disappeared when his oaks fell
01:09:31.800and appeared again when the christian god proved too weak to save christendom from fratricidal
01:17:28.000The Swiss do have their problems, but they would not admit it for anything in the world.
01:17:34.100Even though they seem to see which way the wind is blowing,0.98
01:17:37.880We thus pay our tribute to the time of storm and stress in Germany, but we never mention it, and this enables us to feel vastly superior.0.95
01:17:46.940It is above all the Germans who have an opportunity, perhaps unique in history, to look into their own hearts and to learn what those perils of the soul were from which Christianity tried to rescue mankind.0.94
01:18:00.460Germany is a land of spiritual catastrophes, where nature never makes more than a pretense of peace.0.98
01:18:06.500with the world ruling reason the disturb of the peace is a wind that blows into europe from ages0.79
01:18:12.820vastness sweeping in on a wide front from thrace to the baltics scattering nations before it like
01:18:20.020dry leaves or inspiring through the or inspiring thoughts that shake the world to its foundations
01:18:26.840it is an elemental dionysus breaking into the apollonian order the rouser of this tempest is
01:18:33.240named Wotan, who can learn a good deal about him, and we can learn a good deal about him from the
01:18:40.000political confusion and spiritual upheaval he has caused throughout history. For a more exact
01:18:46.160investigation of this character, however, we must go back to the age of myths, which did not explain
01:18:51.840everything in terms of man and his limited capacities, but sought the deeper cause in the
01:18:57.060psyche and its autonomous powers man's earliest institutions personified these powers as gods
01:19:03.940and described them in the myths was great care and circumstantiality according to their various
01:19:10.220characters this could be done the more readily on account of the firm established primordial
01:19:16.780primordial types or images which are innate in the unconscious of many races and exercise a
01:19:24.560direct influence upon them. Because the behavior of a race takes on its specific character from
01:19:30.540its underlying images, we can speak of an archetype, Wotan. As an autonomous psychic
01:19:36.620factor, Wotan produces effects on the K' in the collective life of the people and thereby0.99
01:19:42.520reveals his own nature. For Wotan has a peculiar biology of his own, quite apart from the nature0.98
01:19:48.900man it is only from time to time that individuals fall under the irresistible influence of this
01:19:55.060unconscious factor when it is quiescent one is no more aware of the archetype wotan than
01:20:02.420than of a latent epilepsy to the germans who were adults in 1914 have foreseen what they would be
01:20:09.860today such amazing transformations are the effect of the god of wind that bloweth where it list
01:20:16.300listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, nor whether it
01:20:24.120goeth. It seizes everything in this path, and overthrows everything that is not firmly rooted.
01:20:30.940When the wind blows, it shakes everything that is insecure, whether without or within.
01:20:38.880Martin Nix has recently published a monograph, which is a more welcome addition to our knowledge
01:20:46.040of Wotan's nature. The reader need not fear that this book is nothing but a scientific study
01:20:51.920written with academic lewdness from the subject. Certainly the right to scientific objectivity
01:21:00.900is fully preserved, and the material has been collected with extraordinary thoroughness and
01:21:06.260presented in unusually clear form. But over and above all this, one feels that the author is
01:21:12.600vitally interested in it, that the cord of Wotan is vibrating in him too. This is no criticism.
01:21:20.160On the contrary, it is one of the chief merits of the book, which without this enthusiasm might
01:21:26.260easily have degenerated into a tedious catalog. Nink sketches a really magnificent portrait of
01:21:34.600the German archetype Wotan. He describes him in 10 chapters, using all available sources
01:21:39.940as Berserkers, the Gods of Storm, the Wanderer, the Warrior, the Wunshin-Mingod, the Lord
01:21:46.360of the Dead, and the Einherjar, the Master of Secret Knowledge, the Magician, and the
01:22:02.700Nink inquiry into the name and its origin is particularly instructive.
01:22:07.940He shows that Wotan is not only a god of rage and frenzy who embodies the instinctual and emotional aspects of the unconsciousness.
01:22:16.780Its intuitive and inspiring side also manifests itself in him, for he understands her runes and can interpret fate.
01:22:24.700The Romans identified Wotan with Mercury, but his character does not really correspond to any Roman or Greek god, although there are certain resemblances.
01:22:34.340He's a wanderer like Mercury, for instance.
01:22:37.600He rules over the dead like Pluto in Cronus.
01:22:39.900And is connected with Dionysus by his emotional frenzy, particularly in its mantic aspect.
01:22:49.320It is surprising that Nick does not mention Hermes, the god of Revelation,
01:22:55.020who is a pneuma and news is associated with wind.
01:23:02.180He would have been the connecting link with the Christian
01:37:11.580And they've never conceded that they were like the bad guys in World War II.
01:37:15.440They've never conceded any of it, really.
01:37:19.740And there's a whole other interesting thread there, actually.
01:37:22.180If you think about the spiritual effect that the best of anime has had on the imaginations of Western youth, this is almost like Japan's revenge.
01:37:32.680you know it's like they're they're using stories to get inside the heads of western youth and kind0.69
01:37:41.220of like remind them of who they are in a in a sense like in in the best stories i mean you know
01:37:47.460um i mean if you watch something like legends of heroes for example like long gram is something
01:37:53.800himself in the future yeah i mean right i mean you can't watch that and uh or uh or attack on
01:38:00.880titan you know um or uh or even like full metal alchemist for that matter and like walk away from
01:38:07.680that with like a sort of intact view towards the post-war consensus like all of these works kind
01:38:15.440of chew away at that right that's that's kind of a digression like it's away from like wotan
01:38:19.220i have i might have you back to discuss akira sometime
01:38:24.800oh yeah no i watched it recently and i especially since i'm learning to wheelie my motorcycle right
01:38:33.960now uh that you ever uh have you ever read akira i'm reading it at the moment okay yeah yeah it's
01:38:41.220great like um it's kind of remarkable how the movie is like the first half of the first book
01:38:47.540and like the last half of the last book and there's like 5 000 pages in between that they just
01:38:51.180cut um and yet it's a perfectly intact movie like it's remarkable yeah totally um it it makes sense
01:39:00.120perfectly internally it's really it's master work honestly um yeah um so like
01:39:07.940so wo tan this this work by crawl young so what we what we've done all these readings we started
01:39:16.980in uh the year 2000 with syl sereno uh or the year 111 with sereno and then we've gone backwards
01:39:26.460uh through all these stories and intercessions to crawl young in the exact moment of 1936
01:39:36.080and uh i don't remember him talking about it in this piece but it might be in his red book
01:39:43.680he actually talked about beating hitler's gaze gaze at one point and seeing hitler's eyes which uh
01:39:51.200this is something everyone like consistently said about hitler that uh he had penetrating blue eyes
01:39:58.740like if you ever see it color corrected that he has brown eyes that's a wrong color correction
01:40:02.480and like that's like something that they told you in great school because you can check because you
01:40:07.520only had black and white clothes but uh allegedly he he had these like penetrating blue eyes and
01:40:15.340when young young met his gaze he like saw wotan and at this haunted young like he was seeing the
01:40:23.940next like the he was seeing 1945 and that you wonder if uh norm mcdonald had read had read that
01:40:30.820essay and like that famous norm mcdonald joke where he's like talking to the jewish guy he's
01:40:35.600like yeah i don't know i'm just i'm glad i never had to had to look hitler in the eyes i feel like
01:40:41.080he might have he might have well no it's norm mcdonald i can repeat the joke uh norm mcdonald
01:40:47.100he's like yeah he has ever think you know if only i could go back in time and kill hitler
01:40:52.720but but you know what what if he spell down to you like you did the germans you know you know0.51
01:41:00.120you go to kill him but then he looks at you and you meet his eyes and and next thing you know
01:41:05.700you gotta and he bewitches you you know all suddenly you're there with a weapon there to1.00
01:41:16.160kill him and all suddenly you're you're Sam Hyde okay you know what I'll do it for you Hitler0.99
01:41:21.040I'm your top guy Hitler I'll do it Hitler I'll go to bat for you Hitler uh uh Carl Young had that1.00
01:41:28.080exact experience of, uh, meeting, meeting Hitler's gaze and, uh, these penetrating eyes0.88
01:41:35.580that allegedly he had from like, allegedly like he, he developed this gaze in like the
01:41:42.8201920s, like working himself up, up into this like frenzy of like work and vision and whatnot.
01:41:49.380And this lasted, um, this lasted, allegedly you could see cracks in this gaze, uh, when
01:41:57.640he was getting sicker in his old age but apparently he was like very spellbinding
01:42:02.360and control room just would like with his will uh like uh he could like uh and
01:42:10.320you kind of see this like at the start of the war where he he like wins these like traumatic
01:42:17.920diplomatic concessions that like there should have been war between germany and czechoslovakia
01:42:22.820and said he just like rolls over it with and like gets everyone to accept that he's taking
01:42:29.660Czechoslovakia and Neville Chamberlain's calling it a victory for peace and then and then gets
01:42:37.620Austria as well and then invades Poland and then invades France and it's just like like like all
01:42:45.120western europe falls falls like with shockingly little struggle and uh allegedly depending on
01:42:54.660your read of the period like a lot of that is owed just to to eolf hitler's like individual
01:43:01.040personality that uh that like uh there's all this um all this are we gonna go are we not gonna go
01:43:10.160are we going to send troops into czechoslovakia are we are we not because like you can imagine
01:43:15.040if you invade czechoslovakia and you have an all-out war with czechoslovakia and like they
01:43:20.440had a real military at that point like it wasn't like uh like it might have been a hard fight like
01:43:26.340uh they could have bogged down and and uh the border between germany and czechoslovakia could
01:43:32.080have been uh could have been a world war one type yeah yeah i was yeah i was i just finished reading
01:43:37.740um the nuremberg system and he he talks about that a little bit that like the czechs were
01:43:43.420basically the best trained best equipped army in europe at the time and it could have gone
01:43:48.880very badly if it had not yeah and they had just like fought their waist like uh and half their
01:43:55.460leaders were veterans of the russian civil war because the czechoslovak legion had like fought
01:44:00.780their entire way to the pacific ocean and then it made it home to check the fact that it was that
01:44:08.700that was not actually a war that the the reunification of the sudetan land happened uh
01:44:14.180peacefully is actually like that was just amazing diplomacy on the germans part like yeah and all
01:44:22.880that was um like like achieved via like just extraordinary brinksmanship like uh like
01:44:30.360imagine if like uh donald trump was 30 years younger and like uh and like instead of just
01:44:39.200like the venezuela grab or whatnot and like the diplomatic victory there and like uh the golden
01:44:45.840points he had like five of those in a row you know which is clearly like what he was kind of
01:44:51.420matching when he went after i ran and then it like bogged down in me imagine if imagine if
01:44:56.060Trump was more energetic and actually capable of annexing Canada, you know.
01:45:08.460And, like, reading books and bringing nothing else.
01:45:11.900And it occurs to me that this is part of the karma, to go back to that,
01:45:17.800so there are karma from World War II, right?0.62
01:45:19.640So Germany was trying to unify, and the Anglosphere, which was largely united at that time, said, no, you unifying, you're trying to conquer the world, so we're going to smash you to bits.
01:45:36.140And then what happened to the Anglosphere?
02:04:26.940If you, you, you can deny the divinity of Christ and you'll probably still be welcomed at most Christian churches and not just the Unitarians, but, uh, but you deny the, uh, the anti-divinity, the infernal nature of Adolf Hitler, because Hitler is the, he's the anti-messiah, essentially, like this, this sort of inverted Christ figure, um,
02:04:56.940yeah yes he either has to be the messiah or he has to be the antichrist our culture has made that
02:05:03.880that so and so what what like ron mcvan and uh this is one of the things where thomas seven
02:05:13.300seven seven uh i think i list one two may sevens he had this thing uh where he really didn't like
02:05:50.140calling yourself a nazi and it's like this is even what like the actual like fascist continuities
02:05:55.600are doing this isn't what franco this isn't what franco in spain is doing he's trying to like deal
02:06:01.040with actual anti-communism but a lot of ways like like that explicit appropriation of um
02:06:10.780of nazism and hitler like as as this like metaphysical font or like political font
02:06:22.140of wisdom like uh like our culture has done everything to make that the right move
02:06:29.000like uh like weirdly like this is where the esoteric like uh the the agartha meme religion
02:06:38.320that is spawning out of twitter twitter edits with with android charlie instagram dude those
02:06:44.960things are all over instagram to a degree that shocked me when i found out about it because i
02:06:50.340mean instagram that's a much younger platform right through the zoomers hang out and like0.99
02:06:53.640yeah yeah that is intellectual coherency to it it's not like a bunch of like you know gen xers0.99
02:06:59.380and millennials like like like twitter tends to be and um just seeing just like the the sheer
02:07:05.540amount of like i mean some of this like like they'll invoke this stuff sometimes just for like
02:07:11.780things that have nothing to do with politics like like yakub math teacher it like and it's all part
02:07:18.040of a six seven meme involving involving like robot charlie kirk and you're like what what the hell is
02:07:22.660going on here you know um but then you know thinking about this i i sort of realized recently
02:07:28.740Um, you know, if you, if you, okay, so first of all, like young men, young white men in particular, like they, they, they lean conservative much more than they lean like left wing.
02:07:44.260um second what's the spectrum of opinion on the Austrian painter in that generation
02:07:53.220and as far as I can determine it goes sort of all the way from um uh you know he was the
02:08:04.080incarnation of Wotan and the avatar of Indra you know he was the lightning and the sun and
02:08:10.240it goes all the way from there to just kind of indifference just kind of like yeah you know he's
02:08:14.580like a mid-century german warlord don't really care we have real we have real problems to deal
02:08:19.120with but like that sense of like hitler is like the secular satan is actually largely lost amongst0.95
02:08:25.380the zoomers right and like and this is a completely that's a huge part of the cultural0.96
02:08:31.560disconnect between the zoomers and and the boomers um because like they they either just don't care0.98
02:08:37.920they're like yeah guy had drip you know like he said some good things um and uh that's that0.98
02:08:45.260pretends just a massive cultural like political shift in the next 10 20 years when that generation
02:08:54.640takes over by that same sort of like post-war mythology like boomer truth regime of everything
02:09:06.220points back to the holocaust and you know all morality is just the inverse of what the painter
02:09:11.600believed yeah so so the date to keep in mind is 2045 because 2045 there are no holocaust survivors
02:09:30.280Like, there's no plausible Holocaust survivor.0.88
02:25:03.340The computer animation and that kind of movie is crap.1.00
02:25:07.060Everything's kind of gone to shit, and it's all for the same reason.0.80
02:25:10.140yeah but the like and that reason goes back to you know the theme of this episode uh of your of0.75
02:25:18.540your show which is um you know everything like morality is the opposite of whatever the bad
02:25:24.160the bad austrian man thought uh and everything flows from there you know um in this case it's
02:25:34.880In this case, like, you know, you have to, you know, morality is excising white men from contributing to video game development or script writing or directing or what have you.
02:25:52.280And then when it turns out that, you know, the reality is that, like, that's where actually where most of the talent is, because that's where most of the talent has always been.0.99
02:26:03.780you know like um but yeah so like if you look at schindler's list as like a a media project
02:26:12.860uh uh like like the power of that that it was like the most realistic visuals and the most
02:26:25.080violent visuals in the most horrifying way directed towards streamed the eyeballs of
02:26:31.860of the unsuspecting like like boomer public boomer and like early gen x public
02:26:39.860public like unexpectedly in 1993 and that like you completely warped the moral universe by like
02:26:48.400inflicting the trauma of like like all these scary movie techniques and all these techniques to make
02:26:54.220it feel like like a real life documentary you know the black and white and all that uh like as soon
02:27:01.240is they gave up like the technological preeminence in propaganda like uh like
02:27:07.960the ability to morph narratives like really died with that because uh like now you know
02:27:17.760it's still video games from the 2000s uh you know uh uh some weird art house projects and like
02:27:25.620like heavy metal punk music punk music that like none of them are producing that's like no that's
02:27:34.940like the most violent powerful media right now or like or like violent anime is probably like
02:27:40.440the most shocking like like uh traumatic media you can flicked flicked on a person and as we
02:27:46.940touched on earlier they don't make no they don't but also as we touched on earlier like
02:27:51.540the uh propaganda vector of anime the worldview that it propagates is completely distinct from
02:28:00.640what you get from hollywood it's one of the you know attractions of anime for the uh the thinking
02:28:07.500kid you know it's like it's like it's it has a morally alien worldview from like the the sort
02:28:13.960of hollywood standard morality which can be quite refreshing and interesting and thought-provoking
02:28:19.560um but yeah i mean like hollywood's ability to propagandize is just completely because like now
02:28:26.520they don't propagandize they preach you know um i don't know this is all like yeah i feel like
02:28:31.740this is like you know wading into like we sound like a critical drinker you know it's like you
02:28:35.840know you're youtube movie critic youtube right now um and like even that it's kind of like that's
02:28:43.400been going on for so long that even like movie critic youtube is just kind of like so like why
02:28:48.540so this is the thing why did animal sacrifices why are those so effective for like creating
02:28:54.500religious experience and stuff and part of it is that it's like oh it's a collective experience of
02:29:00.140violence you know it's a collective uh traumatic experience of violence you know instead of
02:29:05.460watching schindler's lists schindler's list or like a scary horror movie or or you know akira
02:29:12.620which in its own way is one of the most violent things i've ever made
02:29:16.660slaughter a bull or something yeah and then yeah and that's a media experience for the
02:29:22.220the audience and it's like the the fear and the like emotions and all that that that unlocks the
02:29:30.140like the internal ability to rewrite people's people's more more codes like reify certain
02:29:38.040simplicity um adds a bonding element to it right uh since you know you're all going along with this
02:29:45.740you're all equally guilty of it or at least you all share in the guilt of it um and like
02:29:53.540the only way to not have that be guilt is to find some way to transmute that um
02:30:02.620so that it serves a higher purpose which in the animal sacrifices
02:30:06.040i wouldn't put guilt is the primary thing there just because guilt like guilt has to be created
02:30:15.400like uh like you look at and like most perniverse animals like do not experience
02:30:22.360maybe this is just like my my sort of post-christian sort of like instinct um like most people like you
02:30:32.080know if you see like an animal being slaughtered like you feel a certain sympathy with it like oh
02:30:37.900that must suck you know like you know it doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna feel you're not
02:30:42.620gonna like lose sleep over it probably unless you're like a five-year-old kid but you know if0.98
02:30:46.240you're like a five-year-old kid like you're probably gonna be like oh my god you know like
02:30:49.300they just killed bambi or yeah traumatic empathy yeah the point though is that whatever the abstract
02:30:56.420guilt has to be sure i mean if you want to yeah but like i mean that's not really it's kind of
02:31:00.280tangential to the point which was was more about like you're having this collectively you're seeing
02:31:05.900this thing that is evoking sort of negative emotions uh you know unpleasant emotions and
02:31:13.220like you and then and you're complicit in this right like if just by the fact that like you're
02:31:18.980watching all watching it together you're none of you were intervening to stop it from happening
02:31:22.400um you're even pushing it along the videodrome signal is unlocked by violence and then in order
02:31:30.020in order to sort of overcome those negative feelings you need to find a way to transmute it
02:31:36.160which the animal sacrifice does directly because you're offering it to the god uh but you know um
02:31:42.640with entertainment media you know it's like it's usually like the violence is like it's it there's
02:31:48.000there's the catharsis of like oh but this is being done to the bad people or something you know um
02:31:53.440like you know violence like against germans in world war ii movies is always like kind of payback
02:32:02.800for the german violence against jews in world war ii movies sometimes even the same movie right
02:32:09.460uh so like they've got it coming you know you can't you know there's no need to be sympathetic
02:32:14.040to them even if they look noble and they fight well and they seem honorable like actually no0.99
02:32:19.920like they're they're just monsters so it's okay to kill them you know um yeah yes exactly we've0.99
02:32:30.620all seen that scene we've all seen uh inglorious bastards where the only noble characters in that1.00
02:32:38.340those movies are determined characters exactly that's like that's like the the sine qua non0.71
02:32:44.740i don't know if i pronounced it correctly of of that kind of that genre of movie right like um
02:32:50.900it's so on the nose you almost wonder if tarantino was kind of um you know having a bit of a go at
02:32:59.680them with that like one one does have to wonder i mean it's kind of similar with uh what was the
02:33:09.780another one he had Django Unchained where it's just again it was just like so on the nose like0.67
02:33:14.760it's like either and like either it's just like the most artless fucking thing and he's just like
02:33:20.000the worst lib in the world which is totally possible although like based on some of his0.77
02:33:23.860previous works you'd think he'd have a bit more of a sense of character and nuance and not just
02:33:30.680be doing this like ham-fisted race hate propaganda but then it's like wait maybe that's kind of the
02:33:38.040point that he's making you know like and he's got like all the hollywood weirdos kind of clapping
02:33:43.440along being like oh isn't this wonderful and like actually he's just making them look really bad
02:33:50.240because they're really you know django unchained for that was the first tarantino movie i saw that0.98
02:33:53.500left like a really bad taste in my mouth i was like what the fuck is this like this is this is0.98
02:33:59.640just revenge porn of a particular and it's revenge porn the targets people look like me this is0.99
02:34:04.200particularly uncomfortable you know and uh yeah no so i kind of wonder sometimes we're playing a
02:34:09.840long game there maybe um anyway i gotta i gotta i gotta i gotta jet soon i got an early day tomorrow
02:34:16.440and uh no absolutely uh so closing out back to wotan uh what we have discussed and what i hope
02:34:27.960you will look into deeper readers is that this uh this temple of wotan by ron mcmahon and this
02:34:36.600essay by carl young with that uh was republished by ron mcmahon this is like the rosetta stone
02:34:43.180this is this is where um this is where all this like like hyperborea dual society uh
02:34:54.420the the ss of sodden rad in in the castle this is where all all that is like consciously brought
02:35:04.280forth into into the and like systematized and all these elements codified together
02:35:13.620uh in the year 2000 specifically to permeate out and then become an online
02:35:21.280line movement and all these characters again uh uh the foreword is written by an immediate student
02:35:29.380of Carl Young Young's but uh McMahon himself is directly tied uh to Bob Mack to David Lane and
02:35:38.380Bob Matthews of the Order directly tried to William Lither Pierce like like um this
02:35:44.360this like system of of Norse paganism as a vector for esoteric Hitlerism
02:35:54.260in an American context specifically referencing Jungian's psychology and
02:36:00.160architects to metaphysically justify it it's all laid out like right right here
02:36:07.520and and i i feel like i'm one of like 10 people i know who have who reference it or use any of
02:36:16.760like it's filled with all this like weird heavy metal looking artwork like it's such a product
02:36:22.580of the 90s and it's so like remarkable and like like it's so remarkable and like cute yeah i was
02:36:32.300i was i was i was paging like overly earnest i was i was paging i was paging through the
02:36:39.420scripts um or the archive.org version that you linked in the chat while you were while you were
02:36:46.940reading just kind of like looking at the artwork and sort of like yeah it definitely has that kind
02:36:52.860of like 90s zine kind of like feel to it you know um yes and yet it's very earnest it's a very
02:37:01.320earnest book it's it's it's long too it's like what like 400 pages or something like
02:37:08.360this thing's huge uh to have a whole hovamal in here like it's just like it's kind of a
02:37:16.000compendium of like a whole bunch of yeah it's it's remarkable and it's
02:37:23.440it's designed specifically to bring forth the type of culture that we see on the
02:37:31.240internet today that like uh this uh this fluency with uh this this weird uh like american esoteric
02:37:41.500hitlerism and and early 20th century germanic paganism like all mixing in this in this heavy
02:37:50.860metal that'll blend like it's a it's it's a rosetta stone of all these cultural trends
02:37:57.700consciously being brought together and uh uh david lane and like could you uh katya lane
02:38:06.100uh like they're the ones who like if you've ever heard of the aryan brotherhood in a movie like0.52
02:38:13.280they're the ones who like to figure it out that they could they could create a a like white culture0.99
02:38:23.640in prison prisons around um norse paganism and that they could get these same privileges
02:38:32.320that all the all the other religions get within prison so like so like all these uh interaction
02:38:41.320all these uh coordination problems and all these uh spiritual like connect connection services uh
02:38:50.540They had you went to, I think, the Supreme Court to get Norse paganism recognized by the American prison service.
02:39:00.540And that today is like the way prisons in the West are structured.
02:39:07.120Basically, if you can get officially recognized like religious status, like the Muslims have this, Jews very much have this, Christians have this.
02:39:17.780like you have this broad coordinating vector and you get all these extra vegetation rights and
02:39:23.940stuff as long as it's a religiously per person you have access to like books and you have to
02:39:29.120have like prayer access made available to them do you they they did this like in the 90s and
02:39:36.8802000s and now this is like a staple of american prison life that uh they're like people who go
02:39:44.280to prison, very quickly convert to Norse paganism because, you know, you get all these, all
02:39:55.400these interactions and like social connections and access and like.
02:45:04.720Newark, India, and Africa, and the Middle East1.00
02:45:09.720Middle East, blowing up the three gorges down, we're doing a military invasion of China soon, kill every single black and every single goon.1.00
02:45:19.720Hail the founding fathers, report every black to the cold dead void of space, murder all blacks with chainsaws and hammers.1.00
02:45:35.720Why ain't power revolution be the only solution, mom?1.00
02:45:41.540Why ain't power revolution be the only solution, mom?1.00
02:45:47.520Nuke every single country in Latin America0.99
02:45:51.020But use half of the nukes from Brazil just to be sure1.00
02:45:56.980I don't want even a single one to escape0.97
02:46:01.740Even once that's done, there's an entire global 18's belt