Asatru Folk Assembly - 1⧸28⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 186 - Habits, Routines, Ruts, and Rituals

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00:03:00.000 Hello, everyone. Welcome to this week's edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:11.040 We are joined this week by our law speaker, the erudite Alan Turnage, here to share his wisdom with us.

00:03:23.700 But not my eye cream.

00:03:25.960 There you go.

00:03:26.480 always a solid choice and uh i see that leading off the show as usual gw farnsworth

00:03:35.960 donated thirty dollars towards fixing the heat at thorshoff and twenty dollars to this program

00:03:42.140 thank you very much you continue to amaze each and every week on here thank you um

00:03:49.780 top of the show stuff so

00:03:55.840 we have one more episode that will be coming to you from reno nevada and then the flavels

00:04:05.920 are moving to jackson county tennessee so we are very excited about that i got one more show here

00:04:13.540 with the familiar backdrop, and then we'll be changing it up a little bit and coming to you

00:04:19.100 from the volunteer state. Top of the show things. So we have a couple of different

00:04:28.580 things we are raising money for at the moment. Appreciate you guys' generosity. You guys have

00:04:35.520 been awesome. Thank you for everything you've done up to this point. Some of you may or may

00:04:41.860 not have known we had a uh zero turn lawn mower out at sigraham to mow that massive field out there

00:04:52.900 and it it is

00:04:58.020 probably 15 acres of field or so out front and nick would go and do that you know just about weekly

00:05:06.740 in the in the growing season we're doing really good but uh some folks in the area decided that

00:05:14.580 they wanted our our mower and because we were not garrisoned out there our wheel locks and other

00:05:21.700 efforts that we took to secure it were not good enough and it was stolen from us

00:05:26.500 so we're grass grew up a little bit at the end of last year we've been trying to price out good

00:05:32.020 options and so that we can get all ready and prepared for growing season this year and so

00:05:39.300 that we can be good stewards of land especially when i get out there we are raising money to get

00:05:45.380 a new zero turn and trailer to take it to and from so it'll be secured and we can avoid the pitfalls

00:05:54.820 of last time but we're working on that anything you guys want to contribute is as always much

00:06:00.500 appreciated. Also, it's really cold in a lot of different parts of the country that are not usually

00:06:06.340 cold. Just so happens that the heat in the fellowship hall at Thorshof went out. Explore again,

00:06:15.460 exploring good economic options to fix that at the moment, trying to get the most effect,

00:06:21.220 but does look like it's going to be a pricey fix. So we're trying to raise money for that as well.

00:06:26.420 you guys have many of you already donated to these things and we appreciate that if you have

00:06:33.120 if you can and you're feeling so inclined we always appreciate your generosity and i thank

00:06:39.020 you for that and then last thing give you a top of the top of the show update on the pay down of

00:06:46.180 our debt on Frazehoff. Again, having dedicated it in December, it's last month, we are already

00:06:57.280 at 34.7% paid off of that, which is outstanding. Got about $81,578 left to pay on that, but we've

00:07:09.040 made tremendous, tremendous progress in a short amount of time because you guys are awesome and

00:07:12.800 generous. We thank you. This breaks down to about $111 per member would get it paid off instantly.

00:07:20.720 So that's about where it's sitting this week. But again, you guys are a most generous audience,

00:07:26.860 and we appreciate you. And during the time of doing this, Steve bought us two coffees.

00:07:32.140 We've asked a $10 donation. Thank you, Steve. We appreciate it.

00:07:35.180 i think that's the top of the oh um if you can make it we are celebrating desa thing next month

00:07:45.340 um february the 20th through the 22nd that is going to first that goes on at all of our

00:07:53.980 hoffs but that is going to be the premier event at neward's hoff in white springs florida so if

00:07:59.740 you can make it there we would love to see you i will be in attendance i'm looking forward to

00:08:05.180 uh seeing folks that i haven't seen in a while and making new acquaintances so if you're able to be

00:08:10.700 there we would love to have you if you're interested talk to your local folk builder

00:08:14.940 or any member of afa leadership and we can get y'all set up with that law speaker what do you

00:08:22.220 have for us this week well i'll start with a couple of top of the show things while we're

00:08:27.260 while we're in that realm. First of all, as I'd like to say at the top of my show,

00:08:39.580 I always think of this as a cumulative event. So if you have questions about

00:08:43.900 anything else that we've talked about in the past, debt relief, meditation,

00:08:49.100 um being manly in a feminist world um all those sorts of things that uh you know these are the

00:08:59.260 shows are cumulative i do have a few minutes prepared about um the uh rituals and uh habits

00:09:08.300 but anything else you know we uh it's fair game and if you uh if i didn't explain something to

00:09:14.540 your satisfaction in the past feel free to just ask about that you can also if you have a topic

00:09:21.980 that you would like to see us discuss on this segment of the show it is a monthly segment

00:09:27.180 adulting with alan you can email us at please talk about something interesting for a change

00:09:33.900 at runestone.org and we will review that topic for its propriety and preparation potential

00:09:45.260 thirdly on last show we were talking we toward the end of the show we talked some about uh

00:09:49.900 investment stuff and that's what yeah that that's what i meant um we talked about investment stuff

00:09:58.460 somebody asked me about silver um whether we should still be buying silver when it was 80

00:10:03.660 an ounce um silver closed today at about 105 um so if you had bought silver like i suggested

00:10:12.380 at uh 80 dollars down she'd be up 24 an ounce uh as of five o'clock this evening

00:10:20.620 past performance is not a guarantee of future performance but that is uh the trend that that

00:10:26.220 i see and based on the stuff that i uh have been following for a while now so that's the warm up

00:10:33.500 here's just here's the pitch um there's a fine line certainly between habits and rip

00:10:41.420 habits and rituals and ruts um my underlying uh thing for a lot of a lot of the topics that i

00:10:51.980 try to address here as well as my everyday life and one of the reasons i think that

00:10:57.740 that i ended up practicing author being an author tour finding my way to the way

00:11:03.420 is about mindfulness. And I think that is a topic that, or rather a way of approaching these things

00:11:13.500 that affects the way that I look at just about everything that I do. And I think I have it as

00:11:24.060 kind of a good way of hitting a groove so that you can um be uh so that you can remember to do

00:11:34.380 the sorts of things that you need to do i for example have the habit of meditating each morning

00:11:40.300 as soon as i get up and you know usually hopefully before i've had my first cup of coffee

00:11:46.540 that's a good habit making your bed that's a good habit um but when you get once you get past the

00:11:52.300 point of where where you're doing things too much on autopilot um where you're uh and again there's

00:12:03.340 several some of the things i used to do and i and now and it's it's hard to see when you're in it

00:12:10.780 eating lunch every day right i've been doing without lunch breakfast most days um for several

00:12:17.820 months now and you know so i think i think eating habit eating lunch was just a habit that i had

00:12:24.940 i wasn't really hungry i don't think americans are ever really hungry very often but so i just

00:12:30.380 had to have it i would you know it was lunch time so i'd go eat lunch you know go pick something up

00:12:35.500 usually at um fast food or quick or you know you know a quick place like uh

00:12:40.940 Applebee's or whatever. But, you know, again, I wasn't hungry. It was just lunchtime. That was a

00:12:48.540 habit I was in. You know, the same thing with, you know, it relates back to some of the financial

00:12:56.200 stuff that we've talked about. You know, people are in the habit of going through Starbucks and

00:13:03.880 getting a cup of coffee every morning. You know, it's just a habit. And after you've done it for

00:13:09.280 several weeks on end you know it it comes in you know in a way that is genuinely mindless so that

00:13:18.000 all you do is you know you you're grooving there and groove out and you've spent 10 bucks and you

00:13:23.600 know it doesn't really register and maybe you're in a tax bracket that doesn't affect your monthly

00:13:29.520 outlay but you know for 20 cents you can make that same cup of coffee at home and be up several

00:13:36.880 thousand dollars by the end of the year a lot of the and this came up driving right is one of my

00:13:46.240 pet peeves and matt has ridden with me so i uh i am uh i pay a lot of attention to what i'm doing

00:13:57.680 and i expect other drivers to be doing that but apparently they don't have that same expectation

00:14:03.360 of themselves or of each other um it uh you know and i was in a philosophy class an adult philosophy

00:14:11.920 class many many years ago back in the late 90s and one of the guys mentioned that you know that

00:14:21.040 for him driving was just a place where he's zoned out right so he's not even he's not paying any

00:14:26.800 attention to his driving you know so that's just a rut that he's in he probably has driven the same

00:14:32.480 way back and forth to work every day for the last 15 years and so he just you know

00:14:39.680 he's not paying any attention um and that's not that that that's not a good rut to be in both

00:14:47.360 because um but because the drivers around

00:15:00.800 you are expecting you to be paying attention to what they're doing um and because like you're

00:15:07.040 losing part of your life by just not by being boxed in in the in these ruts um

00:15:14.080 having the tv on all the time that was certainly what i the way

00:15:17.600 you know my dad just had the tv on all the time all day every day the tv was on

00:15:32.960 it was back in the days before fox news when i was but a wee lad um so but whatever was on

00:15:39.440 It was always on. So, I mean, it was just that was just a rut he was in. And, you know, I understand some of the psychology behind all of that.

00:15:51.440 But again, part of the idea, I think,

00:15:55.520 of what Odin called to us to do is to turn off the mindlessness

00:16:04.520 and to engage in the world in a way that is full so

00:16:13.280 that we can suck the marrow out of the short time

00:16:18.020 that we are here.

00:16:21.440 Now, driving is an easy example for me because I, you know, that's something that I pay a lot of attention to, like in the way that I used to, I still remember the pattern of the manhole covers in the lane that I drove in to get to work.

00:16:40.920 You know, I get left, get further left, get right, get all the way right, and then I missed all the manhole covers.

00:16:47.280 So that's a way of taking full advantage of being in a, you know, being in a mindful situation and what could easily become a rut.

00:17:00.140 Now, years and years ago, before I figured out what little bit of stuff that I've got figured out, when I was in high school, fine, that's the way I say it, I was coming home.

00:17:17.620 I remember this very clearly.

00:17:19.100 I was coming home.

00:17:19.960 There was a, you know, we lived on a tiny little street in a tiny little neighborhood.

00:17:23.880 And there was a stop sign there.

00:17:25.420 there. But, you know, I've been coming through that stop sign for four or five years at that

00:17:33.180 point. And there had never been traffic. I never looked. And I just about ran into my next door

00:17:40.480 neighbor because she had the right of way and I kept in front of her. Luckily, she was being 0.80

00:17:46.760 mindful and was not in a rut on her way home um and you know she

00:17:54.040 for this pleasure and likely so but that's been a lesson that has stuck with me uh ever since then

00:18:00.520 because you know that that woke me up from that little daze that i was in of just being in the

00:18:06.600 rut of you know driving the same old way driving the same old road um you know and there's never

00:18:13.000 anybody here so there's not even the book um i think good habits are important um but when it

00:18:24.360 ebbs over into being a rut where it's um ossified where it's just you know you've always done it

00:18:30.760 that way and you just forgotten why you even started doing it that way it's it's time to

00:18:35.800 re-examine the the way that you're approaching these things in fact um another example

00:18:49.800 and i don't know how much you want to know about this back story but one of the

00:18:53.080 so one of the things that i found on the yall tube is um i

00:18:58.920 I found this orthodontist who developed this technique called mewing, M-E-W-I-N-G, mewing.

00:19:10.160 And so one of the things that he emphasizes is that the way that you maintain your jaw structure and your facial muscles and all that sort of stuff through the day is a habit.

00:19:26.560 It is a rut that you can get into, where you can walk around slap-jawed and not with good posture, and those sorts of things deteriorate the quality of your facial muscles.

00:19:43.260 and that's why um many many people in the modern world are you know weak chinned and you know weak

00:19:55.660 facial structure because they walk around with their mouth hanging open and i and once once he

00:20:02.140 pointed that out like i see it everywhere now and you know so the the secret of that is

00:20:09.420 on him and it you know i can feel it changing the structure of my uh face and jaw

00:20:18.060 but you know the basic idea of it is to stand up straight and keep your mouth shut

00:20:28.460 and with that and with the application of some of those videos it's you know again it's it's

00:20:37.420 changing the rut that i had gotten into of not paying enough attention to my posture

00:20:44.860 um the other example and was in a related video was and i found that i had been doing it is we

00:20:52.300 slouch and i and and you know for a lot of us you know slap because we look at our computer we look

00:20:58.620 through our tunnel because we're developing a slouch posture that is just sort of the default

00:21:06.860 setting you know that's a route that we've gotten into it was a rut that i was in i didn't even

00:21:10.780 really notice it until i watched that one video and it was like shoulders back head back jaw

00:21:18.540 parallel to the floor and i'm i can feel the muscles in my shoulders shifting because i'm

00:21:25.900 i'm trying to i'm trying to climb out of the rut that i've been in and you know and having sloppy

00:21:30.300 posture being pretty band name um the but i mean you know just i've had that rut where i've been

00:21:38.380 you know more and more leaning into the computer leaning into the phone but now you know shoulders

00:21:44.780 back don't get through your mouth you know butterfly bite that's a whole different that's

00:21:53.020 a whole different topic but that's that you know that's just a way of getting out of the rut and

00:21:57.100 getting into a better habit i've found something a couple of really similar things and like the

00:22:03.660 opposite cues but i imagine the same same body setting you know i notice looking down there's

00:22:11.180 a tendency not something i've had to really train myself in doing and it's always work in progress

00:22:17.340 i don't know if this is just i don't know a relic from high school or whatever else

00:22:24.140 but making sure you're looking people in the eye and maintaining eye contact

00:22:30.380 we've gotten really used especially men to not making eye contact with people because of various

00:22:36.620 social cues making the point of making intentional eye contact with people is really important and

00:22:44.140 And it's something I've had to cue myself on that's really helped in a really similar way.

00:22:49.920 Also with the posture thing, I don't think about correcting a slouch.

00:22:54.800 I think about a lack of standing up with my chest out and my head up.

00:22:59.080 So, I mean, it's the same thing just from a different direction.

00:23:02.200 But, yeah, it's a constant.

00:23:03.480 when i catch a glimpse of myself in the mirror or something that cues me on it a constant like

00:23:09.640 force of you know head high chest up when you're walking those subtle things don't seem like a big

00:23:20.280 deal but when we're surrounded by so many people who unconsciously fall into those ruts

00:23:25.760 a little bit of intentionality on your end can really set you out from the pack in a very very

00:23:31.960 positive way and there's a lot to be said for that we talk a lot and that's the you know even

00:23:38.680 the the thing like making your bed right it's you get you get you get in the hat you get in

00:23:45.400 the habit of having good habits and then it can build some momentum so that you uh so that you

00:23:52.920 feel like you're accomplishing something before you leave the house yeah mandy's good at that

00:23:57.480 lucky for you it's one of those marriage advantages um 1.00

00:24:06.440 highly she she is very intentional has developed good habits as far as making the bed 1.00

00:24:13.000 appreciate you anyways so um no what i was going to say also is

00:24:18.040 there's been a great deal of effort put in social conditioning to make us pretend amongst each

00:24:28.560 other that looks don't matter or are not important or are superficial. They're not. The hammer is a

00:24:36.540 part of our soul. The looks, the visual impression that you make on the world, that is your first

00:24:44.200 impression. That is your first line of defense and it's your first line of offense and how you

00:24:49.840 face the world and how you carry yourself, how you project your will and your self-worth through

00:24:59.420 your appearance is hugely important and it's instinctually important. That's why I use the

00:25:05.780 term pretend. It's not just a casual jab at the modern left and their nonsense. No, it's something 0.88

00:25:14.740 that we're taught that we're both supposed to pretend, but we don't really think. And it's

00:25:18.700 really obvious when you have instinctual responses. Good looking people are awesome.

00:25:24.620 Ugly people are gross. We all know that that's a thing. We can pretend it's not. And we don't 0.94

00:25:32.960 want to tell the uggos that it is because it's mean, but we all know it's a thing. So anything

00:25:38.560 we can do, and I say that we can all sharpen up how good we look. If you are gorgeous, if you are,

00:25:46.940 you know, the masculine ideal, you can always tweak it. You can always enhance it. You can

00:25:53.920 always make it a little bit better. And for all the rest of us, there's a lot of ways that we

00:25:58.940 can improve. Some of them are really subtle. Some of them take a lot more effort, but all of them

00:26:04.560 are intentional. All of them are the result of willful intentioned habits and conditioning

00:26:13.060 till that becomes something that you regularly do and that you have purposefully built into your

00:26:22.160 life so i appreciate you bringing that up it's absolutely true there and i don't want to do

00:26:30.320 there are for example celebrities who are physically unattractive just in the way that they

00:26:36.480 like you ran into the street you don't think that they're attractive but the but just because they

00:26:42.880 were able to present themselves in a you know just having a cheerful disposition um and having

00:26:51.760 a positive disposition is a uh you know is is a is a great way to um enhance your attractiveness

00:27:00.320 um you know there are people who just you know make the best of what you have and and you are

00:27:07.760 and you will be attractive because attractive does not attractive and beautiful are related

00:27:12.800 terms but they're not it's not the same word and they're two different words for a reason

00:27:17.200 um because english is such an awful language it has subtle distinctions for these sorts of things

00:27:29.600 and so you can get in the habit of you know a presenting oh i know what i was going to talk about

00:27:35.920 the um because another good habit to get into is um delayed gratification okay

00:27:46.400 um it's not eating dessert until way after the meal or you know or not buying yourself the new

00:27:55.840 pair of shoes today but next week or not you know delaying that sort of thing there was actually a

00:28:02.960 pump just today um bbc published an article about these guys who are doing experiments with

00:28:10.720 on rats. And what they found was that they treated like what set of rats they would give them the

00:28:21.060 treat as soon as they walked in the door, like they would give them fruit loops. I don't know

00:28:24.720 why that's such a great treat for a rat, but, you know, apparently that's cool for them. So,

00:28:29.460 but then other rats, they would make them work for it. They would make them do these chores and 0.75

00:28:36.060 accomplished a series of tasks before they got their fruit looks and what they found was that

00:28:41.740 the rats who had delayed gratification had a more optimistic outlook and i don't know how

00:28:49.580 they measured that exactly but i trust the science hippies uh on you know on the way that they've

00:28:56.140 done that because it makes sense you know if you if you think like like all the all the goodies

00:29:01.100 at the front and then the rest of the day is just going to be a day long downhill slide um you know

00:29:06.700 that gives you you know kind of a bleak outlook on life like the best of it's already over whereas if

00:29:12.780 you uh have it of delayed gratification you know then all the good stuff's out there at the end

00:29:20.940 you know everything's the good stuff is coming the better stuff's coming the best is going to be out

00:29:25.900 here uh you know out here and long and so that's kind of the glass half empty approach which i think

00:29:32.700 that that example is backwards you know what i mean it's it's optimism as opposed to pessimism

00:29:39.660 which is just another rut people get into man this stuff sucks that's good you know what is

00:29:46.940 a good dose of optimism is the generosity of our listeners uh gilbert gilbert just

00:29:53.420 like okay so i joke to make a cool transition and to make sure i mention this but realistically

00:30:02.060 okay so i will first thank you gilbert for 200 donation towards the heat at thorsoff we really

00:30:08.060 appreciate you you donate all the time you're amazing thank you so much and leroy in michigan

00:30:15.420 also a frequent donor on here uh donated 50 towards thorsoff heat thank you for that um

00:30:21.820 But a point on that, just about the optimism versus pessimism. It is very compelling in the world that we live in to see a lot of stimulus that agitates our senses and makes us notice all the things to be grumpy about.

00:30:47.600 And there are myriad things to be grumpy about. Don't get me wrong. But all too often, we don't see the really cool things either. There's a lot of stuff externally that doesn't really impact me that people do that's irritating. But we're all sitting together right now and having an awesome evening talking about meaningful things in a spiritual community.

00:31:08.120 And we have people on here who are willing to give, you know, substantially of themselves and their resources to help make this work to the best of its ability.

00:31:19.360 And you guys seriously are a bright spot in the world to a great many of us, including myself.

00:31:25.420 So thank you guys for that. You guys are awesome.

00:31:33.020 That's a good habit that they're in. You know, they come in like GW Farnsworth.

00:31:38.520 first on the first off the post um you know kicking in some stuff to make all this stuff happen

00:31:45.080 because and you say it i say it but you know it doesn't we don't like to beg for money money's

00:31:54.040 what we need you know money's how this stuff happens um you know if we were in a if we were

00:31:58.920 in a different era you know we'd be trying to get you to bring your horse down here and

00:32:05.160 you know plow some fields so we can barter for a new wood stove and the thing but instead we

00:32:13.480 just need your money so in a great grand scheme of things it's uh it's actually easier what we're

00:32:19.480 asking indeed so another thing that i'm you know to get to actually to say a couple of things about

00:32:29.880 the ritual part um i do have some rituals that i engage in in the mornings and i think that's

00:32:38.280 an important as we revive um focused spirituality into midgard i think the more of us that are doing

00:32:51.240 um simple simple rituals it doesn't have to be anything um overly complicated

00:32:59.880 or more than a couple of sentences, you know, express some gratitude to the gods for bringing

00:33:06.760 forth this existence. Express some gratitude to your grandparents for bringing you into existence.

00:33:17.240 And, you know, that will start the day with some optimism, which is a,

00:33:23.000 you know, which is, that's the best way to approach it. The best is on the way.

00:33:29.880 All right, so is that where we are at for right now with your notes for the top of the

00:33:44.880 show?

00:33:45.880 Yes.

00:33:46.880 All right.

00:33:47.880 Well, so let's ponder that and talk about it.

00:33:49.880 But we also have some other questions that have stacked that might inspire some commentary

00:33:56.880 and some contextualization.

00:33:58.880 so oh okay and something for you guys to know seriously alan gave kind of a mock email address

00:34:08.100 earlier if you do have any of your suggestions and your stuff and uh importantly your questions

00:34:14.220 vns at runestone.org and many of you or several of you take advantage of this regularly so we

00:34:21.680 appreciate that that's awesome and it gives us stuff to discuss on the program one of the things

00:34:26.760 about your guys' questions is, and I hope this got a couple of implications. So first, I'd be

00:34:34.420 very happy to answer them for your knowledge and your betterment. Also, if you're asking it, chances

00:34:42.340 are there's other people out there thinking and wondering on the same thing. So sometimes if I

00:34:46.540 answer it, I try to make sure I answer it meaningful to the intent of the person asking,

00:34:52.760 but also sometimes I go a little bit far afield to kind of cover it broadly for people who are

00:34:58.840 wondering about similar things in a similar vein. So I want to make sure I'm answering it for the

00:35:04.140 person who asked, but also for our audience that, you know, it's several thousand of you that,

00:35:11.380 that listen and are, you know, paying attention. I think it helps. There's, for every person that

00:35:17.520 asks questions, there's a number of people that have questions that just don't get them asked.

00:35:20.860 so thank you to those who contribute questions hi all i appreciate your response on the academy

00:35:27.980 curriculum question last week since it's not an option and the the person who asked the question

00:35:34.700 says they are not eligible for membership but they were asking about enrolling their child in

00:35:38.940 the austro academy since it's not an option i wonder if there's a good strictly secular homeschool

00:35:45.180 curriculum option you might recommend what are your thoughts on public versus private schools

00:35:51.580 i really don't want my kids in any form of public education but all private schools near me are

00:35:57.980 tied to some form of christianity catholic lutheran holiness etc would you rather fight

00:36:03.820 the brainwashing of your kids in the former or the latter um alan you got thoughts on that up front

00:36:11.260 some question um as for the public schools you know i like 10 years ago i would have said well

00:36:20.620 depends on the demographics right we had a good public school experience that was um before the

00:36:31.180 woke stuff was so bad my youngest is 25 so you know it was you know there was always a little

00:36:38.140 bit of that stuff around i think it's it's been uh the log marks through the institutions um

00:36:45.500 is just reaching its peak now but it was certainly a thing in the you know even

00:36:53.100 you know that that long ago 20 50 years ago so um but at the same time and that's one of the

00:37:01.340 reasons why zip code is so important you know if you if you're in a good demographic zone public

00:37:05.820 school can be a decent experience um if you engage with your children you know that's um

00:37:13.100 you know we come back to being in good habits instead of ruts you know we

00:37:23.420 never allowed we didn't even turn the tv on during the day but you know so we you know when we ate

00:37:31.100 dinner as a family every night um you know we always talked about what the kids had learned

00:37:35.820 at school what did y'all you know what did you do and it seems um

00:37:43.100 like almost you know working on a rut but it's good you know have the kids talk about

00:37:48.060 what they learned and what kind of spin the teacher was putting on what are you reading

00:37:53.260 in english class are you reading chopper or are you reading garbage um and you can always enhance

00:38:02.140 your children's education by talking to them about what it is that they're learning and the way that

00:38:08.860 that the teacher is teaching it and there's um and even even in post school if you i mean you can

00:38:18.380 always um enhance school curriculum by getting your kids to read um do other things at home

00:38:30.060 i mean there's nothing that says that school is over here and home is over here that as if it's

00:38:36.940 two totally different parts of the universe you know you can um you can teach your kids

00:38:45.500 in an informal way and enhance their education now so you know if we if you're in a bad demographic

00:38:56.060 and uh you know and i and i will say i don't know a lot about the homeschooling

00:39:01.180 curricula i know that there are many of them out there uh that are good

00:39:08.140 but you know if you have the time for it which i mean that's a you know to uh

00:39:13.340 to dedicate the time to and some states allow like a pooled homeschool resource which would

00:39:19.820 you know which would be a good thing to have if you're in one of those states but if you know if

00:39:25.900 if it comes down to uh a bad public school or a good christian school i would opt for the christian

00:39:33.820 school um the of course the tuition is go is going to be a challenge um but uh you know if

00:39:48.540 if it's a christian school that has some uh hearkening still to uh to traditionalism you know

00:40:00.700 because in a certain way of looking at it certainly the way that i look at it i think

00:40:06.700 christianity is responsible um as the gateway for a lot of this woke um radical egalitarianism

00:40:17.660 i mean that's you know christianity is the gateway drug to uh

00:40:26.140 to where we are sorry i just thought of that that's a cool way to say it though

00:40:29.740 um the so but at the same time if you're in a you know in a if you can find a staunch

00:40:36.380 fundamentalist traditionalist christian school i would take that over a bad public school because

00:40:41.820 then because a bad public school is the worst of all worlds you can have bad teachers bad um

00:40:48.460 demographics and you know it's just it's going to be ugly and brutal and kids not 0.69

00:40:53.500 going to learn anything you can unteach them christianity i have learned it

00:41:00.620 yes no i think that the um oh first yeah we highly recommend waldorf as far as homeschool

00:41:11.820 curriculums um if you're able to and you're thinking about doing homeschool also there

00:41:18.700 are brick and mortar waldorf schools that might also be an option for you depending if you're

00:41:24.460 looking at private schooling um so

00:41:35.100 the details matter there's quote unquote christian schools now that are fully woke and

00:41:43.180 And I think you have less of the minority violence that you have in public schools,

00:41:54.000 but you probably have equal risk of sexual predation. 0.96

00:42:03.720 There are also, as Alan was talking about, strict traditionalist Christian schools that I think is the best option

00:42:11.380 And if your choice is a woke public school or a woke Christian school, trying to find a traditional Christian school is a much better option.

00:42:20.540 But it depends on where you are. There are many school districts in this country that have wonderful public schools.

00:42:29.080 There are lots of. They are just greatly outnumbered by school districts that are awful and dangerous.

00:42:37.940 and one of the things that is unfortunate depending on where you live and the demographic

00:42:47.120 of where you live is often the public school is dangerous because of the degeneracy taught

00:42:53.980 by the teachers in the curriculum but also it puts your children at you know in a position

00:43:00.660 of being preyed upon by predatory children who are not being raised with any attempt

00:43:06.900 at civility or appropriateness.

00:43:10.760 So it's doubly dangerous in a lot of places,

00:43:14.360 but I mean, you know what the problems are.

00:43:15.980 So the choice is the one or the other.

00:43:19.500 On balance, if you said at random point

00:43:22.060 in anywhere in the United States,

00:43:24.340 public school or private school that's Christian,

00:43:26.680 I would choose Christian private school. 0.87

00:43:29.780 I think the best option is homeschooling them 0.98

00:43:31.680 if you're able.

00:43:32.620 As Alan mentioned, there's sometimes cooperatives

00:43:34.920 or groups of parents that share some of that responsibility or at least share elements of it.

00:43:40.220 Like maybe they do their own thing at home and then they meet up for sports or going to the park

00:43:46.160 or doing other socialization things. So I think there's a lot of that. And certainly that's

00:43:51.100 increased drastically. Well, two-pronged. It's increased drastically as parents have realized

00:43:57.540 just how bad public schools have gotten, but also with the response to COVID having everyone

00:44:04.340 be encouraged to school homeschool their children for a couple of years people realize hey this

00:44:09.940 isn't so bad hey they really didn't miss out on a lot of the things and they got some benefits so

00:44:16.180 i think there's a lot this is a good time if you want to to pursue homeschooling and there

00:44:21.620 are a lot of resources out there um nick if you could look this up for me on who we go through

00:44:30.900 There's a public, there's like a homeschool legal defense something that has a lot of resources that are really, really good.

00:44:42.440 HSLDA, homeschool legal defense aid.

00:44:46.860 That is a really good organization with a lot of really good resources.

00:44:50.640 Even if you don't need legal defense, it's got a lot of homeschooling information that you might find really beneficial.

00:44:55.620 and another thing to say and i know this is like then takes one step out beyond that the first

00:45:03.620 thing about having to have this whole discussion is these are our schools you know school in this

00:45:12.740 way is a western construction you know so it you know and i know that we live you know in

00:45:21.700 And on one hand, we live in this reality where all of our bastions are eroding out from under us.

00:45:31.680 But at some point, you know, we need to start taking these institutions back and, you know, getting in there, being on a school board and going to school board meetings as boring and frustrating and irritating as all that is.

00:45:50.660 that's the only way that we're going to change this and bring it back

00:45:53.420 yeah so okay kind of a side note tangent but something that i think is important

00:46:01.560 we have a lot of

00:46:05.960 i think we have a lot of people in different demographics but we got a lot of angry young men

00:46:15.640 that want to do things that we, I guess, get in a rut of calling political.

00:46:26.860 Wearing a skull mask and like street agitating isn't overtly political. We use political a lot,

00:46:37.560 but very few of the people who share our values or our worldview want to actually be political

00:46:44.200 and be on their local school board or get some sort of political position in their local

00:46:50.940 city, state, county, municipal government doing something to help. If we had more

00:46:59.400 traditionally minded voices involved in those kind of things and putting their voice out there

00:47:07.660 to be heard in those kind of environments, I think that would help a lot.

00:47:14.200 And I get that. Yeah, but in the meantime, while you're feeling it out, putting your kid in a dangerous public school is not a good option. I understand that. But certainly there's people who don't have their kids in public school or can wait till they're done or whatever that can still get involved and do those things.

00:47:32.760 sometimes there's you know voices of hey going out and you know being seen in the street waving

00:47:42.740 a flag or dropping a banner or whatever is not the most productive use to time I don't ever want

00:47:49.720 to counter signal those guys that are out there doing that that are doing it legally and responsibly

00:47:53.700 sure but I think all too seldom it's considered actually having people voice their concerns in

00:48:02.080 you know the traditional and appropriate sphere to voice them if people tried that more i think

00:48:10.000 there would be a lot of good things that would happen is it going to change the entire world

00:48:13.200 maybe not but it might very well change you know little things in your county it might very well

00:48:18.560 be the voice that stops you know drag queen story hour at your local library

00:48:24.400 perfect example and that's you know and that's i mean that's how you change the world is one

00:48:30.260 county at a time absolutely absolutely jackson county tennessee there you go so worthwhile plug

00:48:41.860 for that um it has long been the plan to uh get myself and my family and a number of other leaders

00:48:50.500 in the austral folk assembly and members to move to jackson county tennessee to

00:48:55.380 centralize a presence in a small county to where we have a voice and we have a face in the

00:49:04.140 community where we can build reputation and where we can you know enact the kind of life that we

00:49:11.820 want to have in a community where we might be able to have a critical mass to where

00:49:16.900 our opinion counts, our voice gets heard. I have tried to subtly nudge for it, but I didn't want

00:49:27.940 to push overly hard until I was there. I certainly don't want to be hypocritical, and I always like

00:49:33.020 to lead from the front when I can. You've got about a week and a half before I will be fully

00:49:40.920 qualified to be maximally obnoxious trying to get the rest of you guys out there.

00:49:46.340 So be forewarned and be invited.

00:49:49.340 If you are a member of the Ask True Folk Assembly and you are looking for some place to put 0.98

00:49:54.940 down roots and be, that place should be Jackson County, Tennessee.

00:50:00.760 If for some crazy reason it is not, realistically consider one of the cool things about the

00:50:09.920 blessings of growth that we've had with our hoffs over the past decade maybe you know i couldn't

00:50:18.000 imagine it but maybe jackson county tennessee is not your your first choice we've got other places

00:50:23.600 where i would love to see afa members start stacking the deck in those counties and getting

00:50:28.720 their presence there we have odenshoff in brownsville california we have thorshoff in

00:50:37.040 linden north carolina we have uh baldershoff in murdoch minnesota yordshoff in white springs

00:50:44.480 florida and now phrasehoff in austintown ohio so a lot of different places to choose from

00:50:54.000 but the more we have our community closer together in clusters and building enclaves of afa members

00:51:01.760 we will really start to see some positive and beautiful things accelerating those in those

00:51:08.060 locations and i will say when we're talking about moving there we don't mean an hour away half an

00:51:16.940 hour away the next county over move to that county it may be slow you may be there for two and a half

00:51:23.840 years by yourself like i have but that's where it's actually important if we're not in the same

00:51:31.140 town if we're not in the same county if we're not in the same neighborhood it doesn't have that

00:51:36.340 impact yeah sure you can drive an hour to go see them but you can't make an impact on that community

00:51:42.980 personally we can't as a group maybe if we go hang out there but you can't personally do it unless

00:51:48.260 you're there yeah but only so much so that's a that's a really good point that you make and

00:51:54.020 it's something that i've had to work really hard trying to corral people man but one county over

00:52:00.260 there's this really cool thing but yeah but we're only only an hour and a half for nashville and

00:52:05.380 that'd be really cool cool then drive an hour and a half on the weekend and go check it out

00:52:10.660 the more we consider it you know a couple miles becomes a couple of counties becomes a state over

00:52:19.380 and then we're kind of where we're at now which is awesome that we have the ability to travel

00:52:23.540 and see each other now but the dream is getting that as close as we can and if we keep it to the

00:52:29.380 same counties certainly in you know states east of the mississippi where there's tons of little

00:52:35.860 tiny counties same county gets you real close out west there's a little bit if you have lots of

00:52:43.540 money and or good credit or both um get in touch with me we will do a planned unit development and

00:52:53.460 have interlocking so way to do it there are a lot of them being exercised that we can

00:53:04.100 that's an important point and this is something that especially when we're looking at a county

00:53:10.180 model if we put our our sites on accounting we use jackson county tennessee because that's where

00:53:15.220 you guys should be moving to but just in case you're not use it as a for instance

00:53:19.460 in a lot of places you can have a variety of us can have all of the different things we might want

00:53:31.620 if you're a person jackson county for example if you're a person that you know wants to live in

00:53:39.180 town wants to live in a you know suburban kind of setting cool there there's spots for that

00:53:45.640 there's areas of Jackson County that are literally in the town the urban sprawl of Cookville to where

00:53:53.020 you got all the stuff you need two miles away on the other side of the county line but you're still

00:53:59.080 in Jackson County you can be in a smaller town environment in Gainesboro you can have you know

00:54:05.920 you can work with Allen on a multi multi-family multi-unit um you know kind of shared space

00:54:13.180 set up. You can get your own land and farm and ranch or whatever you want to do. There's vacant

00:54:20.600 land. There's woods. There's fields. There's river. There's hills. There's lots of stuff all within

00:54:28.140 a 30 to 45 minute across county. And you can find the stuff you want there. But the importance of

00:54:35.920 being in the county is you're able to run for office in that county if you so choose. You are

00:54:42.480 part of the census of that county when they start running demographics and they say x number you know

00:54:47.760 x percent christian x percent jewish well what's the assets also true that's going to start

00:54:55.760 happening if we get people moving there you know it'd be nice to see us listed in representation

00:55:02.240 somewhere as hey there's a measurable percentage in this county let's consider the also true vote

00:55:07.120 on something we haven't heard that in you know a thousand years that would be really cool

00:55:14.240 so have being part of the tax base part of the community part of the stuff to where you qualify

00:55:19.920 as as a member of that area it makes a difference so it's just a little thing to talk about while

00:55:26.720 we were on it that's kind of cool so next question is more of a challenge

00:55:37.120 Nick from North Carolina has issued a formal challenge to the strong people of Thorshoff.

00:55:44.960 Just as we are gearing up to complete our beautification project, our heating unit has taken a nosedive.

00:55:51.920 We desire nothing more than to show everybody the best of time during Austria, our national event.

00:55:58.780 To that end, I will call on the AFA as a whole.

00:56:01.640 This will require a significant amount, but we are not an insignificant people.

00:56:07.120 For less than $10 a member, this problem disappears and becomes a footnote in the future books of our victories.

00:56:15.240 A gift for a gift.

00:56:17.260 As we do with the gods, so we do with each other.

00:56:21.080 I continue our gift cycle amongst Hoffs with a donation to each Hoffs general fund and to Sigurheim in the amount I am asking of each member.

00:56:32.960 Got to scroll down, sorry.

00:56:35.260 Today, $10.

00:56:36.040 Furthermore, to keep things interesting and in the hopes of bolstering additional support,

00:56:42.100 I take an oath before the AFA as a whole.

00:56:45.140 If we are able to raise the funds necessary in time for our national event,

00:56:49.100 I will give an additional $20 to each off and to Sigur Hang.

00:56:53.740 Thank you for that, Nick.

00:56:54.900 And to verify, I'm the one that goes through and looks at those things, as does producer Nick.

00:56:59.640 He, in fact, did that the day that he emailed this challenge in.

00:57:03.220 So well done, you're man of your word.

00:57:04.840 We appreciate you. And yeah, who will pick up the challenge?

00:57:14.740 Tyler says, and thank you, Tyler. You are a just about weekly, at least, contributor to questions on our email.

00:57:25.280 That's vns at runestone.org. We appreciate you.

00:57:28.820 hey there question for the show tonight how do you ensure that you give each god their due in

00:57:36.280 terms of worship prayer etc i find that when i try to pray at night which i often do while falling

00:57:43.020 asleep i tend to want to default to odin which may just be a holdover from my monotheist days

00:57:50.620 do you have a specific system or rotation that excuse me that you use to ensure that you do not

00:57:58.120 neglect any of the gods. Thanks. Alan, what say you? Well, to start with, I think it's

00:58:08.260 interesting, like when we do greeting of the gods and go through even the 12 that are

00:58:16.240 specifically iterated in the guilt getting, there are a couple, three of those in there

00:58:25.320 that i'm not really sure very much about them um so uh a couple things um one

00:58:39.480 and this it as this analogy comes into my head it sounds a little bit um sac religious

00:58:48.840 um but you know i think of the gods as the team you know and if you're giving them a homage

00:58:55.320 If you're giving worship to Odin, you know, it's to the whole team.

00:59:04.340 So I don't think there's anything inappropriate about that.

00:59:08.140 I know that even in, you know, in some of them, some folks are just not moved to address any God.

00:59:17.780 In particular, they just hail the gods, the Aesir, the Vanir.

00:59:22.600 It is all of a thing, and there's certainly, I wouldn't think, I don't think that, like, the gods are jealous of each other.

00:59:35.780 i don't think that is a part of our tradition um the the um you know i don't think

00:59:44.900 uh and all is talking in you know at the foot of the bridge because

00:59:51.380 odin gets more attention than he does i just don't think that is the way of doing things um

00:59:57.380 When this topic comes up, though, I always like to remind folks that the really the focus of a lot of our prayer and certainly a lot of the focus of a lot of my devotion is toward the ancestors.

01:00:15.240 You know, we this is a higher.

01:00:18.540 And so our pipeline, our direct lineage to the gods is through the ancestors.

01:00:24.060 You know, I don't, so usually when I think about these sorts of things, you know, I think about my grandparents and their grandparents and their grandparents.

01:00:37.020 And sure, I, you know, I give the gods their due, but, you know, they're far removed from, you know, from the blood and bone where we are right now.

01:00:51.420 So, you know, leave a bowl of cream out for the house elves and sing a prayer to your grandmother.

01:01:07.200 So, a couple of things. 0.88

01:01:09.900 It is always a good thing to build a relationship with the Lanveteer near you. 0.98

01:01:23.240 It's certainly always a good and reverent thing to make offerings and interact with your ancestors. 0.64

01:01:30.580 But it's also great that you want to make sure that you are honoring all of the gods.

01:01:36.740 And at first, I really like your question, and I like where your question comes from.

01:01:45.640 I like the inherent piety in it.

01:01:48.420 And I have had those feelings as well when I started out, and I try to be aware of it to this day.

01:01:58.540 I think Alan does make a good point and something to consider.

01:02:01.320 and i don't think this is i don't know this isn't take it for what it is the jewish god 0.86

01:02:12.240 claims to be a jealous god that's his thing and he is very fussy if he does not get all

01:02:19.320 of the attention all of the time that's not the nature of our gods our gods are noble so

01:02:28.600 and this sounds impious but i don't mean it that way the very least that we owe our gods

01:02:37.800 is to conceive of them as the very best of people they are much more than that but they're at least

01:02:45.980 as good as the very best of people so yeah i don't think they're you know

01:02:51.480 delighting in causing you misfortune if you forget to mention their name in a litany of gods

01:02:59.540 or something um but again there is not wanting to mess up out of fear that bad things will happen to

01:03:09.880 you but the more noble desire is to not want to mess up and be impious or to you know show

01:03:19.520 disrespect in some way. And I think that's a really good thing to think of. What I think is

01:03:26.880 your, my suggestion, and what I did early on, and what I, I suppose, as far as a habit, routine,

01:03:41.180 and ritual that I do. I have a lot of anxiety when I get on the airplane,

01:03:48.420 which may sound odd because I end up flying a lot for AFA stuff. But I make sure on takeoff

01:04:00.720 that I, you know, say a little hail to each of the 12 ICER and the 14 AUS in Europe.

01:04:13.700 And I make sure of doing that because those numbers are numbers I can keep track of.

01:04:17.700 And if I forget, then I can do the little count if I miss something to where I know that I don't.

01:04:25.620 But what is instructive on that is the list that's laid out in the Guild for Guinea.

01:04:30.720 it's ordered and structured and lists them it lists you know the 12 um maidens of finseller

01:04:40.960 with uh frig and freya and it lists the uh 12 icier that's beneficial for mankind to worship

01:04:49.780 and so it's got a good list there for you to go by and one of suppose it's not a not a hope it is a

01:04:58.520 it's what's gonna happen um it's matter how good it's gonna happen and how thorough it's

01:05:07.440 gonna happen or how fast but one thing that is happening and will happen as we develop

01:05:13.420 hoffs to our gods who are lesser known than some of the ones that everyone is familiar with

01:05:24.280 we will start to build a relationship with them and an understanding of them in a different way

01:05:30.300 and in a very organic way through the gift cycle and through tending their temples and worshiping

01:05:38.060 them and we've already seen that happen I think in a really beautiful way with Lord Balder I think

01:05:45.180 that balder is often often treated as a um like a story element for the backdrop of other gods to

01:06:00.000 do stuff i think that's how a lot of people in the mundane society have internalized his position

01:06:06.460 in our mythos instead of treating him as a legitimate individual god with agency with

01:06:15.980 character with personality and with being our having a half to him and engaged in regular

01:06:22.700 worship and regular gift exchange with him we've really seen our people

01:06:30.780 build an appreciation and i think an understanding and a relationship with balder

01:06:35.340 in a way that wasn't there previously that's awesome and i think it's we're going to see

01:06:41.100 that more and more i think we see the same thing with uh nyorder i think whereas he is often

01:06:50.060 you know rather obscure in mainstream society on their familiarity with our beliefs

01:06:56.060 to those that worship him regularly and that are there at his hof regularly

01:07:00.140 that's a real different situation and his prominence and his presence in their life

01:07:06.980 increases greatly. So that will get much better when we have Hoffs to Forseti and to Vidar and

01:07:13.540 Vali and some of the gods that are, you know, I guess less celebrated in modern times.

01:07:21.240 But yeah, you're wanting to do that is really important. I think as a, you know, make sure you

01:07:25.440 don't miss anybody thing that Alan said, just, yes, when you hail the team, then, you know,

01:07:33.160 everybody gets a little piece. So I don't, that's just, you know, it may seem like a simple way of

01:07:39.240 putting it, but I don't think it's wrong. If you don't know, or you're unfamiliar, or you're

01:07:44.600 whatever, the gods that you specifically do know and want to speak to, mention them by name, and

01:07:50.140 the rest, you know, and hail the rest of the Iser or hail the Iser. I think that's, that's

01:07:56.560 certainly a step in the right direction. But Gilfaginning, it lists them, you can memorize

01:08:02.260 them in that order if it helps you, or you can at least know that there's numbers that

01:08:06.200 you're shooting for and see if you miss something. But your question is really well taken. And

01:08:12.160 I think it comes from a very pious place. Would a Vidal Blunt be just 15 minutes of

01:08:18.180 silence? So that might first, yes, I get the joke. That would be funny. But secondly, on a completely

01:08:29.840 not funny way, that might be a really pious way to do that. The awkwardness of everybody being

01:08:36.860 very, very uncomfortably aware of the silence and intentional about holding the silence

01:08:46.220 and forced to correct their thoughts

01:08:49.820 that are going off in different directions during it.

01:08:53.440 I don't think that is a bad Vidar ritual at all.

01:09:00.720 No, there's lots of ways to do that. 0.96

01:09:03.220 If we're doing an Odin bloat,

01:09:04.800 everybody doesn't have to cover up one of their eyes.

01:09:06.940 It doesn't have to work that way.

01:09:09.900 But I think there's something kind of special

01:09:11.500 about that idea.

01:09:12.460 I like that.

01:09:12.960 And as you mentioned that Gilfaggining, there's also the Alcatru Trulamal lists them all on

01:09:22.860 our website from straight from there. We do. We do. We absolutely do that. I appreciate

01:09:29.340 Alan's disapproving head shake at your pronunciation of that. I was doing the exact same thing until I

01:09:36.120 got tired of hearing Alan fuss about it. Gilfaggining. Gilfaggining. No, I did the 1.00

01:09:41.080 same thing it was also alan's alan's fussing that got me got me changing my my emphasis

01:09:46.840 um the emphasis on the wrong solado they perhaps um well it's funny because now it's just becomes

01:09:57.940 natural but i did have to intentionally and habitually make a point of doing that

01:10:01.660 uh caleb in pa donated a hundred dollars towards thoris hoffs heat thank you caleb

01:10:07.580 We appreciate you.

01:10:09.460 And Bill in Tennessee donated $100 towards Thor's Hoff Heat.

01:10:13.360 Thank you, Bill.

01:10:13.920 We appreciate it a lot.

01:10:15.300 You guys are amazing.

01:10:17.080 What else do we got?

01:10:25.620 Popping in from a break at work, one thing I've been wondering slash curious about lately

01:10:31.740 is the different cultures in the different Hoffs.

01:10:37.460 i've heard it mentioned a few times recently but not in much detail

01:10:45.140 alan do you have anything to say about the different cultures at the different hoffs

01:10:53.860 well since i am immersed in the culture at new york's off all i can say is um that

01:11:00.340 that, your health being the best health, you know, we do try to distribute our work and

01:11:09.880 Southern hospitality to all of those who show up at all events. I think it is just an organic

01:11:21.820 way you know of the way that people interact you know the you know if you have

01:11:29.500 two different groups of four people you're going to have two different cultures um although

01:11:35.580 and and nothing wrong with that that's just the way that things are you know just developed that

01:11:40.540 way i do like uh matt the analogy that you made analogy is the wrong word i i like the observation

01:11:50.940 that you made that as we have opened the worship to

01:12:00.460 the gods, they are more present with us. And I think that we, you know, that we feel that we

01:12:11.700 are more in the presence of the gods now than we were five years ago. And I think

01:12:20.420 um you are to be congratulated the afa is to be congratulated on um manifesting this into

01:12:31.860 midgard um for the first time in you know in this openly for the first time

01:12:39.940 you know we always use a thousand years it's really if you want to you know um 1500 years

01:12:46.340 you know we we in the asa the team all of you guys and this guy um are making this happen and

01:13:00.740 thank you to steve mcdallon for kicking down the door and allowing us to barrel through with you

01:13:06.740 So, what was the question?

01:13:09.740 A question about Hoth cultures.

01:13:13.740 Oh, Hoth cultures.

01:13:15.740 Yes, that's right.

01:13:16.740 And, you know, maybe that is a, I think it's a, I think it's a, I think it's a phenomenon

01:13:24.740 of the, of the people in the Hoth, they develop the culture.

01:13:31.740 and you know i you know it is what it is minnesota people are different from florida people that's okay

01:13:42.140 yeah i um well i guess first i don't know two pieces here um

01:13:50.540 piggybacking on what alan just just uh brought attention to and then

01:13:55.180 And while our gods, I don't think are, you know, known for their violent jealousy,

01:14:11.260 I do think that it's meaningful when gods that have not been worshipped in a large way by a large percentage of their people

01:14:24.080 in a very long time when they get worship that was denied them for a long time

01:14:31.760 i think that that's something that they appreciate and that is meaningful to them in some way and

01:14:39.840 to whatever degree that we can be a part of that i think that is a good thing for us to do um

01:14:45.520 I think all the more for gods that aren't nearly as celebrated or as spoken of, and to which we don't have any actual attestation to them having Hoffs, even in our ancestors period, them having a Hoff in their name devoted to them, I feel is meaningful and is something special to them.

01:15:11.980 So I think that's a really cool thing that we're able to live in a time where that's happening.

01:15:17.160 As far as Hoff cultures, yeah, but it's a fun, quirky, interesting thing. 0.89

01:15:27.060 It's not like a big, you're going to commit a faux pas if you do a Njordshoff culture thing at Baldershoff.

01:15:34.600 They're going to run you out with Pitchfork or something.

01:15:37.100 It's a combination of things.

01:15:39.140 It's a combination of the cultural background of the people in the area, people who make up the Hoff. It's a combination of the geographic conditions prevalent there.

01:15:54.980 You know, you're going to have Minnesotans doing Minnesota stuff at Baldershof, and that's going to look real different than Carolinians doing something at Thorshof.

01:16:06.480 You know, people are going to talk different.

01:16:09.560 Those things, those things are that way.

01:16:12.260 The food that's going to show up there oftentimes is going to default to, you know, culture specific cuisine.

01:16:19.140 sometimes that will go back to the old country but often it'll mean you know southern cuisine

01:16:25.000 at the southern hoffs it will mean you know traditional midwest i don't know german and

01:16:33.940 swedish fair if you're up in uh baldur's hoff it'll mean a variety of things at odenshoff

01:16:41.740 because california is so much more eclectic but it also takes the shape of

01:16:48.540 kind of the founders and leaders of that particular hoff and the culture that they

01:16:53.500 build in that area and that is a mixture of all those people and the things that they've pushed

01:17:00.140 for and the shaping of how folks do what when and where and that looks different different places

01:17:09.340 but it's it's cool we're all very unified in the afa way of doing things but the subtle differences

01:17:16.860 that make that hoff really a home to those people that worship there is it's something special to

01:17:23.660 see when you travel to different hoffs and i don't notice it because i get i get to visit

01:17:31.340 these places a lot and i interact with these people so regularly it doesn't stand out as much

01:17:36.380 but when we have members that don't get that experience as often as i do sometimes they

01:17:40.940 really notice it and it's a really fun thing for them when they travel to a different off

01:17:46.220 though with the underpinning that you know that

01:17:51.820 that the differences are much less marked than the similarities i mean to you know

01:17:58.220 The traditionalism that we can express in any of our hoffs or in any of our moots is

01:18:10.140 just so much more comfortable than the deliberately guarded interactions that you have to have

01:18:17.660 with normies out there because we are read in on, you know, the important issues of the

01:18:30.060 day.

01:18:31.060 We have a similar approach to it.

01:18:33.060 You know, again, out there at the edge somewhere, there's a little bit differences in the, you

01:18:38.560 know, how animated we get about one topic versus another.

01:18:43.420 But all of that happens within the broad confines of, you know, we are the folk and we are united.

01:19:00.460 Yeah, absolutely.

01:19:02.300 You're going to have a lot more in common if you regularly attend Yordshoff and you find yourself at Odenshoff than, you know, if you go down the street from Yordshoff and you're at the grocery store.

01:19:13.420 um and that's kind of a special thing although these are the speaking winks though here's a cool

01:19:19.820 story which i like to share because i because i like to keep us all in groups um

01:19:30.380 a couple things number one you know i tend to be fairly open about my practice um and about

01:19:40.220 attitudes and things in general um i don't know part of that is because as i knew retirement

01:19:47.980 i don't have to care really what people think anymore to the extent that i ever did

01:19:53.420 so it's easy for me to be a lot more expressive about some of these ideas

01:19:57.900 um and i don't have to be as guarded at the same time

01:20:03.260 and i know part of it is the company that i keep but you know when i express

01:20:07.180 a lot of these traditionalist ideas to the people that i interact with they are largely

01:20:13.820 in agreement with us you know this is you know it's the it's the phenomenon of the emperor's 1.00

01:20:19.340 new clothes the woke tards make a lot of noise and gather a lot of attention because of their 0.92

01:20:25.740 you know the media is uh has so much communist influence in it but people normal real people 0.98

01:20:40.060 like us um are you know on the side of tradition so you know if so being a little bit open with

01:20:48.140 that um can be very helpful because like if you're a little it's like if you if you talk to the guy

01:20:57.500 next to you and he's and he's one too right then that's then he's encouraged now because he knows

01:21:04.620 what you know which is that we're all the same team so um we ran out of uh

01:21:13.660 at food bank last month at york's house we ran out of the fill-in sheets and our

01:21:22.720 copier wasn't working so i sent john thank you john down to the store to get to make some copies

01:21:31.120 i said here's 20 bucks make us 20 copies of this page and we need this today

01:21:37.300 he comes back they would not take his money they know who we are they like us we're doing this food

01:21:45.940 bank they made those copies for free because we're doing what we're doing that's worth noting

01:21:56.980 we get things like that every place we have Hoffs it's it's funny because it is insidious

01:22:07.320 sometimes it creeps in if the media or whatever is always suggesting that you're the bad guys

01:22:18.680 at the end of the day we kind of remind ourselves that's just not true

01:22:24.660 We're really not. We are good people. We are nice people. We are neighborly, noble people. And people see that when they meet us. They see that when they experience our presence in a community, when they have any interaction with our Hoffs or our food charity or just, hey, there's a really cool guy at my store.

01:22:50.680 I think he was part of that Viking church down the road.

01:22:54.460 Cool.

01:22:55.200 That makes a difference.

01:22:56.280 And we build our reputation that way in a very tangible, very traditional way.

01:23:04.020 What's the AFA's stance on Sagan?

01:23:15.420 That one is unfortunate.

01:23:19.200 it so spreading it out like she is on the other team we can respect her in a way and

01:23:36.040 we do I respect her loyalty to her husband I think that loyalty speaks well of her but

01:23:46.120 that loyalty precisely puts her on the other side of the line of our loyalty. So she's

01:23:52.900 on the other team. Doesn't mean you gotta viciously hate her. But she's on the other

01:24:03.220 team. And I think that that is it's something to think about. It's a really interesting

01:24:13.400 example of loyalty, putting you on the, you know, on strange allegiances and strange sides

01:24:25.760 of things. Sometimes it's very important to pick who you have your allegiance with, because

01:24:35.740 sometimes it puts you on the wrong side of stuff. But yeah, that's the short answer.

01:24:42.260 loki's wife and his very loyal wife i commend her loyalty but she is on the other team

01:24:49.540 we are loyal to the icer and he is the enemy of the icer

01:24:55.780 um did witness fawn do all the murals at every hof uh alan what are your thoughts on

01:25:05.940 on your mural short answer yes Fawn has done the mural at all of our Hoffs and the plan

01:25:14.340 is for him to continue doing that as long as he is on this side of the veil um Alan what

01:25:20.040 are your thoughts about uh you know there's mural and keep keep it keep it real it's it's

01:25:32.500 beautiful piece um gives voice to a lot of the of what we know uh of his lore um as we did with

01:25:50.820 all the um murals you know it's uh it fills the space wonderfully our particular spaces

01:25:56.820 you know has a has a flat and then some um walls that come toward the uh they

01:26:04.580 and you know he he filled that with details from your life and and and mythos

01:26:15.140 and all the detail in there is wonderful um and he did a great job with that as he did with all the

01:26:21.700 I mean, it does a great honor to have that there.

01:26:27.620 It's beautiful.

01:26:31.860 It really is.

01:26:35.380 I like some of the little just subtle things about it.

01:26:40.140 Like, I like the Pelican.

01:26:43.840 Right.

01:26:44.520 I like the Rando Pelican that just came as a flash of inspiration.

01:26:50.040 I think Pelican's really cool there.

01:26:51.340 like it a lot um i like the marlin the way it's done in the back i like a lot of things yeah the

01:26:59.980 big bowl with the runic detail yep i i like you know his his jeweled ring i like a lot of things

01:27:08.860 about it um so i had somebody who was very concerned that he was dark hued so something

01:27:18.540 happens when white people are out in the sun um if you're out in the sun infrequently you get red

01:27:25.580 and you get burned and it hurts you're out in the sun regularly you get tanned that's something that 0.91

01:27:31.420 happens um i think that some of our people are a little bit too quick to too quick to be concerned 0.92

01:27:39.420 that there's like a crypto negro one percent too much 0.87

01:27:45.900 ochre too much i know it's it's solely because he's literally laying on a beach 0.96

01:27:53.260 um and the hof is in florida so he's got a good beach tan coat going

01:28:01.500 had those concerns came from a basement i hear there's not much sun in basements

01:28:06.540 that's true basements are often shielded from the sun the adorners of couches get very little

01:28:14.460 a very little tint in the uh in the summertime 0.90

01:28:19.100 nor do they find uh treasure in abundance or ladies

01:28:26.540 so just putting it out there um

01:28:36.540 Okay. Alan, what are your thoughts on Wotensvolk?

01:28:48.900 You'd have to remind me who exactly that is. Are we talking about anyone in particular?

01:28:56.540 So, all right. So, this is a worthwhile question because I have heard that there is

01:29:05.220 some other group of people calling themselves that now um no it's

01:29:12.200 if the person asking the question yes the the name brand wotens bulk is

01:29:20.860 the um kindred group with um david and katya lane and ron mcvan back in the 90s

01:29:35.100 and

01:29:36.680 so

01:29:40.160 the question

01:29:45.760 does specify

01:29:47.200 okay cool

01:29:49.980 yeah there's a rip off one

01:29:52.300 just to be aware I say that

01:29:54.160 I don't know if there's some official affiliation

01:29:56.160 in some way there is some other

01:29:58.020 we have a finite

01:30:00.400 amount of different words

01:30:02.340 in our Oustru lexicon

01:30:04.240 that people kind of stick together in different ways so you do find similarities um i and i

01:30:13.200 i want to be careful what i say because it's really easy to judge any of these three people

01:30:19.200 by mass reputation than by actual interaction and i want to be fair

01:30:24.320 there are things that I like in David Lane's writings there's a lot of things that I don't

01:30:34.680 like I think some of the choices that he made set us back in a lot of ways because of his public

01:30:42.700 his public faith and then his criminal activities hurt us in a lot of ways

01:30:49.500 I have not heard positive things about Katya. I've never met her, so I don't want to

01:30:57.660 defame her unduly. I've only heard bad things about her, so that's kind of the impression

01:31:05.260 that I have, but I recognize that that's not entirely fair. I really like Ron McMahon, though.

01:31:12.540 um i've gotten to speak with him ron's a really cool guy and one of the neat things about him

01:31:22.820 like he certainly has you know is very open about his views on big meta issues and on political

01:31:31.680 things and other things and never shied away from that but he's

01:31:34.880 though he wrote things I think he's much more of an artist than a writer and I think his

01:31:44.800 his writing was art his writing almost

01:31:49.840 this is nuanced and I don't mean anything negative by any of this so I hope nobody

01:31:56.500 takes that way i don't think it's as informational as it is almost meta poetic in the way it's put

01:32:05.700 together and the way it's presented um it's more to inspire than to be like a like a academic

01:32:13.620 treatise on something and it is very inspirational and inspired a great many of us um his art

01:32:22.180 I think some of it is really cool some of it's not quite my aesthetic but it's very distinct

01:32:30.520 and I think you can recognize a mile away when you see a McVan piece and I think he's the first

01:32:36.180 person in modern Alcitru that you can really say that about like this is a definitive look of art

01:32:44.180 from one of our people doing something and uh yeah his his art his poetry he also is a musician and

01:32:53.220 he you know sings and plays guitar and you know i've the ritual stuff that i've seen him do

01:33:03.540 is again i think an extension of his artist soul that he presents when he does stuff

01:33:09.540 one of the other things i've always thought the like viking armor chainmail thing is kind of silly

01:33:17.860 he's the one person that i've seen it on as far as also true practitioners that it's not silly 0.63

01:33:24.340 you see a lot of like you you see a lot of fatties and a lot of weaklings out there that can't lift

01:33:33.140 the shield that they're carrying whatever else you'll see ron and he's yoked and he's got muscles 0.93

01:33:38.980 rippling in his chain mail and like okay i'll buy that that's that's fair he's one of the only

01:33:44.100 people that i've seen look cool in the renaissance fair guard um yeah i think really highly of ron

01:33:51.460 i never have spoken to met interacted with uh david or conscious so i can't again i don't want

01:33:58.260 to just beat up on them or whatever most a lot of what i know is you know reputation or people

01:34:03.860 who have known them saying stuff about them i've known people that really liked david lane in real

01:34:09.940 life again some of the things that i've read i enjoy some of the things less so i don't know if

01:34:17.140 that answers your question or not i think what they were trying to build at wotens folk was

01:34:24.180 cool in a lot of ways but very short-lived uh alan do you have any additional thoughts on them

01:34:30.660 uh i think that sums it up i although i agree with you that in the final analysis

01:34:41.140 it was kind of a misstep um you know but i i think even you know by exploring that avenue of

01:34:50.820 you know and and probing what was a very let's say dynamic approach uh to uh you know

01:34:58.420 know to the reestablishment of our faith um you know i again i you know there's no bad way to do

01:35:07.140 it i don't think i mean it's uh you know two steps forward one step back he you know i i admire them

01:35:14.900 for being out there on the forefront of these issues and i've never met ron um although i know

01:35:21.060 he's kind of around um um you know i would realize the opportunity to talk with him about these things

01:35:29.460 i you know i uh i'm gonna get the chance to have that discussion with him one day but i have not

01:35:38.820 yeah if you look and i i'm not sure now if we have it on our channel or not if not i can try to find

01:35:46.740 it um there was a um our founder steve mcnallen did a interview chat thing on a a short uh short

01:36:00.780 lived program that he had a while back with ron where the two of them talked a little bit and

01:36:05.880 that was neat to see i again i've spoken around on the phone i've invited him i'd love for him

01:36:14.220 to come out to something, but at

01:36:16.200 a time in his life where

01:36:17.520 health and other factors just weren't

01:36:20.300 conducive to him being able to make it out

01:36:22.180 to some different events we've wanted to have

01:36:24.180 him at, but yeah, I would love to meet Ron

01:36:26.020 someday.

01:36:32.080 So, Alan, do you have any additional

01:36:33.980 words of wisdom on

01:36:36.000 habits, on routines,

01:36:38.020 on ruts, or on rituals?

01:36:42.280 No. Get out of the rut,

01:36:44.220 be mindful of the way that you do things um develop good habits including but not limited

01:36:51.500 to uh the habit of deferred gratification i would strongly recommend and i don't like showing off a

01:37:00.140 lot of my personal religious stuff but you know have an altar um at which you do a ritual

01:37:09.100 um you know there's there's no wrong way to do it um you know put a picture of your

01:37:16.700 grandmother on there and you know remember her uh you know chicken and stuffing or whatever

01:37:24.060 it was that you used to make that you that you liked um you know and through her in her grandmother

01:37:34.220 and her grandfather and um you know these you know and

01:37:42.700 i'm always on the well i have a ritual that i do um but uh uh but you know it is a ritual of

01:37:51.580 remembrance and um to remind us of our place in the folk soul we are the we are the

01:38:02.540 current faith of our people. We borrow that from our grandchildren, and we inherit from

01:38:14.500 our grandparents, and we need to just remember that in word and work.

01:38:19.900 yeah i think um to hearken to back to the very beginning of our conversation um

01:38:33.020 thing about driving

01:38:36.100 a thing about driving that you know you'd mention the person you spoke to that

01:38:46.720 it's just time for me to zone out that is scary and dangerous to hear

01:38:52.040 but it's funny because in a way driving is like a meditation but for all the wrong reasons

01:39:02.200 like people are able to get stuck to where they bifurcate they go into a period of automated

01:39:08.780 actions and they're completely not present but it's not done in a ritual context it's not done

01:39:15.960 towards any enlightenment it's just done because they completely devolve into npc mode um really

01:39:23.560 and it's impressive that people fall asleep and wake up in their driveway and don't know how they

01:39:31.920 got there it's amazing that that can happen and not with like the the teslas with the auto drive

01:39:39.900 but like 20 years ago with none of that stuff it's really yeah um and that's scary but it is honest

01:39:53.340 That's a thing. And we have, it is, we, we find this with a lot of different people. I noticed that this sometimes happens with older people.

01:40:14.740 there's a point where either people never start trying and never wake up or where people

01:40:24.620 give up and revert but there's a large percentage of our kin folk out there in the world

01:40:34.780 that don't live intentionally that don't think critically that aren't actively engaged in their

01:40:44.700 life. And it's absolutely the NPC phenomenon. But when we say that enough, we forget what it really

01:40:52.340 means. Life is much easier. If you just don't notice what's going on, and you just stay, you

01:41:03.520 know, medicated and happy in whatever, you know, eat whatever food you can find and, you know,

01:41:11.040 look at nudie pictures on your phone and like just stay in whatever

01:41:17.200 video game place and just don't participate in life it's easier that way

01:41:24.080 it's much more challenging to live intentionally and to go out and talk to a girl and meet them

01:41:33.860 in real life and actually try to date them and maybe build a family with them that's much more

01:41:39.260 challenging. It's much more challenging to go and do something or accomplish something than it is

01:41:44.960 to play a video game about accomplishing something. Life is much easier if you just play the sims on

01:41:52.120 your computer instead of go out and like do any of those things in the real world. And all of us

01:42:00.420 have occasion to fall into and be lulled into some of that. And sometimes it's, and I'll say this,

01:42:06.040 Sometimes it's very fun to just escape into some nonsense that's just kind of a palate cleanser.

01:42:12.840 And if you're doing that to cleanse your palate, you're doing it on purpose to like, cool, I need a break. 0.93

01:42:17.540 I'm just going to go watch something dumb and relax.

01:42:20.220 That's great and that's healthy. 0.97

01:42:22.600 There's a lot of people that that's their default existence.

01:42:24.780 They don't know there's anything else.

01:42:27.420 And things are engineered to where that's the way it is.

01:42:31.860 And we get really into these trendy ways of describing it to, you know, bread and circuses.

01:42:47.860 Doom scrolling is a version is a strange and malignant version of that. It's like, that way you feel like that's my that's mine. And you will you feel like you're awake and you're

01:43:01.860 aware of all the stuff so like no i'm not an npc i'm i know what's up but it's the same kind of

01:43:07.680 thing if you're just sitting there your interaction with it is just scrolling on your phone through

01:43:12.060 all the negative stuff right being intentional and it the other thing that i want to stress too

01:43:18.780 on it it looks real different for different people um you don't have to do yoga you don't

01:43:25.560 have to there's not one right way to do it but the intentionality is what makes the difference

01:43:31.260 If you're doing what you're doing on purpose and with a mission and with an engagement, that's better than floating.

01:43:42.340 And if you're just floating aimlessly, put your head up every now and again and see what's going on.

01:43:49.340 one of um i don't get a lot out of a lot of philosophers there's some that i do

01:44:03.980 but one that i do a lot that i really enjoy his stuff is julius evilla and he talks a lot about

01:44:11.840 that there's a big difference in the quality of the soul of all of the people that just kind of

01:44:18.320 graze like cattle throughout their lives versus people that wake up and have a degree of aristos

01:44:27.360 about them to where they're actively engaged in the spiritual current of the world around

01:44:35.680 them in a meaningful way. There's a lot to be said for that. Alan, what do you think of Guido von

01:44:46.300 list that's an interesting question and one that i have given a little bit of thought to

01:44:57.420 you know i

01:45:01.100 what room practice i have is exclusively in the um the elder foods art um

01:45:10.300 it's a discount what seems to have been a genuine um

01:45:21.820 uh you know strike um as the god stuff was re-manifesting in in midgar i i think

01:45:32.460 it seems to me that we don't move on lists experience was very real

01:45:36.780 that he was, I don't know, touched in some way by, you know, dynamic force.

01:45:53.100 And I mean, that's, you know, and not having been there, I can't really say more than that,

01:45:58.620 but, you know, it, you know, the struggle then is, you know, if you think that that was real,

01:46:05.180 So I don't think that it was any less real than the prior manifestations, maybe that's the right way to say it.

01:46:19.180 And I've not read a lot of his work, I regret to say, because I've been reading the interpretations of the elder food bar.

01:46:33.180 um so i think there's a lot to be said for meister von list um it's a reason it was really

01:46:42.540 important to me to include him as one of our heroes that we celebrate with the day of remembrance

01:46:47.500 and he is um the patron hero of odin's off and anybody who doesn't know about that he had

01:46:55.180 when he was younger and he was you know kind of going through his odenic awakening about things

01:47:04.240 he did a ritual where he

01:47:07.360 I think he was in

01:47:10.560 I don't have to go through where he was when he did the where he did the ritual but he

01:47:15.940 He like buried bottles of wine in the shape of a swastika and did a oath that one day when he grew up, he was going to erect a temple to Odin.

01:47:31.620 And that was something that he had had oath to do and was going to do.

01:47:34.920 And having him as being the Hoff hero at Odin's Hoff was kind of a posthumous way of fulfilling that oath for him because it's not something he got to do, you know, in his real adult life.

01:47:49.980 But what he did do was put significantly contribute to a current that was just waking up in the soul of our folk.

01:48:04.920 So, his Armin and Runic revelation is absolutely legitimate.

01:48:13.820 It is the authentic meaning of the runes in Odin's rune song in the Have-Em-All.

01:48:25.060 There's none of them that are innovative.

01:48:28.700 His interpretation of them is, and his selection of which runes apply to which of the stanzas, is certainly, you know, his innovation and his development.

01:48:42.660 But they're Elder Futhark runes.

01:48:45.320 The shape, you know, again, I've said many times, the rune isn't the straight line drawing.

01:48:51.500 Yes, I realize that we all, myself included, refer to that as the rune, but it's a symbol that represents the rune.

01:49:02.360 You know, the two lines with the little line that make what we call the letter A, that doesn't make an A sound.

01:49:09.640 It doesn't make any sound at all.

01:49:11.220 It's three straight lines together.

01:49:13.600 We know what it means, so we make the sound.

01:49:17.320 Any of those things, they represent a bigger mystery.

01:49:22.060 but it's an interesting thing that you see with critics of his

01:49:29.260 no his rooms are just made up garbage okay how come well he was just some guy that had

01:49:36.540 like cataract surgery and then he all of a sudden came out and said look guys i got these rooms

01:49:41.260 okay roll that back in time what do you think happened when the first guy wrote down the elder

01:49:51.940 food art like at what point in history do you think that the all-father rode down on

01:50:00.100 his eight-legged horse and handed a guy a bag of carv sticks like when did that happen

01:50:06.100 um no what probably happened was an old I want to I want to say Viking but not really an old

01:50:17.800 German tribes tribesmen had a vision had a dream had a spiritual encounter with the

01:50:28.960 father where he emerged from a trial a tribulation a point of seclusion hey guys

01:50:36.480 odin just told me about these rooms he probably had other guys in the tribe around the campfire 0.90

01:50:43.760 that no that's dumb that's just some made up stuff we're gonna you know we prefer our loincloth 0.79

01:50:51.360 version it's silly if this is real if our gods are real if this is real 0.86

01:51:00.800 why couldn't the gods bless you know one of our very special people with inspiration in

01:51:11.440 you know i don't know 19 whenever and i feel bad i don't know the exact date of his uh

01:51:17.840 cataract operation but you know 1906 why can't you have an inspiration then you can only have

01:51:24.480 inspirations in you know the the folk the volkwanderung that's the only time you can have

01:51:30.320 inspiration you can only have inspiration in it the the logic doesn't play out when we're stuck

01:51:37.680 only conceiving of our faith in some archaic mist of prehistory but we can't conceive of the

01:51:45.200 miraculous in our own day and in our own lives we've really limited our ability to participate

01:51:53.200 in our faith and our ability to fully engage and fully believe in it um i absolutely believe

01:52:00.080 in the inspiration of the uh that the all father gave to meister von list his

01:52:06.480 His pioneering efforts in the study of runes, in the resurrection of Proto-Ausatru, I guess,

01:52:22.140 set currents in motion that brought us to where we are today. 0.96

01:52:25.700 No, he didn't have everything right.

01:52:27.740 He had everything much more right than people had up until his time.

01:52:32.440 Absolutely.

01:52:32.960 Absolutely. And he was working with far less comprehensive materials than we have at our fingertips now. But the awakening that he did and the interaction that he had from the All-Father, that's meaningful and that counts. It counts today. It counts in his lifetime. It's going to count a thousand years from now. It counts and it's why we venerate him as one of our heroes.

01:53:02.960 All right, so we've got some other questions.

01:53:10.360 I will get to here for a second.

01:53:18.560 Ah, does meditation have a place in Ausatru?

01:53:23.240 If so, what is best, detaching the mind or guided meditation?

01:53:29.400 lastly what is the three cauldron meditation alan answer those questions

01:53:41.080 yes meditation has a place in also true um

01:53:49.560 uh if you look at the idea i mean the the broader description

01:53:58.680 of Osterodonism has, at least in part, derived from a shamanic tradition, shamanic tradition,

01:54:10.300 you know, which is a, which is in itself a form of meditation.

01:54:15.440 I've done some Zen meditation with a good friend of mine who is a much more devoted

01:54:36.380 Zen practitioner.

01:54:39.720 the empty mind stuff to me i i think is incorrect i think it does not express our legacy correctly

01:54:54.600 i think the western path is the path of manifestation rather than the path of annihilation

01:55:03.160 And I know that is a very simple-minded way to summarize the 150 books that I've read on the topic.

01:55:18.100 But that's my own conclusion.

01:55:23.180 Your mileage may vary.

01:55:25.560 the um the cauldron method um and i and i and i will say

01:55:32.440 that um that here again there can be interpretations of this the um

01:55:40.840 the way i practice it um is very much in keeping with

01:55:47.320 I think it overlaps with the Daoist practice, which also has a three cauldron meditation

01:56:02.920 practice. The lower cauldron, which is in the Daoism is called the Dantian. The lower

01:56:14.960 cauldron is the seat of the physical self the middle cauldron is the seat of the um

01:56:26.320 the

01:56:29.280 interactive self the interpersonal self it's the heart cauldron and then the

01:56:34.160 upper cauldron is the seat of the spiritual self and

01:56:38.320 And again, the way I practice it, and I've been pretty open about this, you know, I tie that to the kundalini practice that I was trained in as well, where the goal of kundalini is to awaken the kundalini-owned, it's all the same thing, of prana, chi.

01:57:04.220 to awaken that energy and manifest it through the lower parts of the self and up into the higher

01:57:13.840 part of the self. So meditation is the habit that I have every day. That's very much the meditation

01:57:24.660 that I do is working the kundalini up through the cauldrons in order to manifest my highest self.

01:57:34.220 there you go so i

01:57:45.420 does it have a place in also true sure um it it somebody in the chat um mentioned this too it

01:57:56.140 can mean really different things and i think that we get very

01:58:01.020 i don't know we get very conditioned in our head to have a picture of what meditation is

01:58:09.340 meditation is a like dangly bearded half naked skinny indian dude in lotus you know chanting

01:58:22.200 something to himself sure that is absolutely meditation but there are a lot of other things

01:58:27.880 that count as that as well. And I think different things work for different people. And I think

01:58:35.080 different things work for different intentions. I think periods of

01:58:47.000 I want to describe it of

01:58:54.140 intentionally directed

01:58:58.940 thought and intentionality

01:59:03.980 in a ritual environment,

01:59:08.660 in a ritual place,

01:59:10.320 in a place where there's stillness

01:59:13.160 and there's focus of what you're doing.

01:59:15.140 I think, you know, depending upon the person and their prerequisites has, has value, can have values, certainly for the person.

01:59:26.060 I think it has value for objective reality, depending upon the efficacy of the practitioner.

01:59:35.660 As far as which is better, the detaching the mind or guided meditation?

01:59:43.440 in my experience which is better for me and for things that i've tried to do with meditation

01:59:54.440 guided but i've never done a meditation that was really guided by another person although

02:00:02.560 i've heard a lot of really great experiences with that from other people i have done like

02:00:11.160 purposeful meditations with an intent or directing energy towards an action or an occurrence or a

02:00:21.740 thing, I have found tremendous benefit in that the few times that I've really put myself towards

02:00:29.760 doing that in a ritual way. So I think there's, you know, a good deal of value to that.

02:00:41.160 um would ron mcban be honored if he passed beyond the veil that's kind of a

02:00:58.840 nebulous question on the specificity of it honored by who so

02:01:04.520 So certainly if Ron were passed beyond the veil, the AFA would recognize his passing and he is a person worthy of, you know, celebrating and acknowledging his passing and, you know, going to his funeral.

02:01:33.240 and recognizing him as somebody who's contributed a lot.

02:01:37.640 Absolutely.

02:01:39.200 I certainly think that he is a person in the world

02:01:44.600 that the gods would be familiar with.

02:01:48.840 I think it's one of those things you aspire to

02:01:52.220 when you pass beyond the veil.

02:01:53.760 Like, do the gods acknowledge you as somebody?

02:01:57.100 Do they take note of your passing in some way?

02:02:00.560 And I think the gods would take note of his passing.

02:02:03.240 what's the best way to convince christian folk to return to our faith

02:02:12.440 what points should be made to show their misplaced faith in a foreign god alan

02:02:24.160 i when i have that discussion with uh you know with our christian um folk without

02:02:31.100 You know, the part that I emphasize is the overlap in the tradition that we hold, you know, all the things that we, that when they talk about a traditionalist faith, you know, the traditions of Christianity are really the Western traditions.

02:02:49.980 And again, I try to do it in a way that is not confrontational, but a way to co-opt the underlying belief structure, the important stuff that they believe in, family, culture, nation, widely, footnote omitted.

02:03:16.840 But, you know, but those sorts of things are the real beliefs that they have with the vidir of, you know, Jesus and Moses and Noah on top of it.

02:03:30.320 So, you know, and then it becomes contextual, like the last discussion that I had with one of us who's a Christian, I mean, you know, I just very gently challenged him on some of the history stuff, you know,

02:03:52.800 And because most, most Christians like most people have just never given any thought to what it is that they believe. 0.60

02:04:04.740 They believe it. I don't have it. They believe it because they're in the run, you know, and, you know, and the harder, if you take the hard approach, you're just going to offend them and turn them away. 0.67

02:04:18.400 But, you know, if you emphasize the idea that, you know, that we're, you know, that we honor our people as our people, and we believe that our own legacy, however you want to say it, you know, mythology is absolutely the right word, although, again, it has the wrong connotation.

02:04:43.240 you know our history our legacy is worthy of respect and honor you know

02:04:51.880 it seems to me that you're not ever going to i had to get over this finally myself

02:04:59.320 get out of this rut you're not going to win them over one kind of conversation

02:05:05.880 right that's what i always want to do like we're going to have this one conversation i'm going to

02:05:09.640 lead you through the 47 steps and you're going to come out the other side in an hour you're going

02:05:16.680 to be an awesome truer um but you definitely you have to plant the seed here's what we agree on

02:05:23.640 okay here you're all here are the all all things that we agree on why you know and if they

02:05:31.320 ask me why you're not a christian well you know they they have a different worldview that comes

02:05:36.200 out of a different worldview and was imposed in a you know in a way that um that doesn't fit well

02:05:43.400 with us and that's why christianity is having a struggle right now and you know in western

02:05:48.040 civilization i mean they're you know if if the goal is to bring them closer to us and to have

02:05:58.360 them consider that we are a legitimate practice practice of faith and maybe to consider joining

02:06:04.200 us one day the only way to do that seems to me is to you know is to plant a little seed in there

02:06:11.880 in a in a gentle and compassionate way and let them and you know let that mind virus work on

02:06:19.400 them the same way that the other mind virus has been working on their whole life

02:06:23.320 yeah it's not a one-size-fits-all answer it depends on the christian in front of you

02:06:33.400 um i think alan's point is very well taken that you're not gonna have it is very unlikely that

02:06:43.180 you're gonna have the perfect impactful conversation that oh wow that's a good point

02:06:50.600 i'd never considered that here hand me that thor's hammer i'm gonna embrace house and true

02:06:58.120 that's that's a lot um if you can do that that's very impressive

02:07:06.840 one of the

02:07:11.400 this is less fun but it's the slow burn that i think is most likely to actually be effective

02:07:17.240 if they're already not enthused about being a christian and they're asking you then sure you

02:07:31.040 can have a conversation and they're primed to hear what you have to say if they are somebody who

02:07:36.740 is proudly christian then anything that you say that comes as a challenge

02:07:45.140 they're going to instinctively react to and put up all of their defenses against.

02:07:52.420 I think something that is very effective is building a reputation with them as a good person

02:08:01.440 and as a pious practitioner of your faith. 0.99

02:08:05.440 if you can have them be envious of your relationship with the iser versus their

02:08:16.460 relationship with jesus that cuts through all of the natural defenses that they will throw up to

02:08:26.560 try to fight you and it will plant a seed to where they hmm this guy is really proud of himself and

02:08:33.580 he's proud of who he is and he's got a nice family and he's very pious and he looks nice

02:08:39.600 and he's successful in life, but he doesn't like Jesus. He's got his own gods and it's

02:08:45.780 clearly working out really well for him. Huh? I thought that wasn't the case. I thought,

02:08:51.460 I thought if you didn't have Jesus, huh? And it makes that curiosity, you know, get them to ask

02:09:00.660 you questions and don't compare and contrast like hey your faith sucks my faith's awesome

02:09:08.180 have them ask you questions i've i've been saying this past couple of times because i've had uh 0.97

02:09:16.340 um have really good conversations with the mormon elders that ride their bikes through

02:09:23.940 the park that I take my daughter to, we will spend, we will have an equal exchange of me

02:09:31.940 genuinely asking them stuff about their church, and they're genuinely asking me stuff about

02:09:38.260 Ausatru, and it's really interesting, and they'll come back with like new questions

02:09:43.380 and new stuff they're wondering, and like, hey, so what do you think about this? Well,

02:09:48.620 was reading this thing so it plants a seed and it gets them to ask a question because if they ask

02:09:54.540 the question then you're not the bad guy if they say hey we do this jesus thing but you do this

02:10:01.340 other thing over here it seems kind of cool how come you're doing that not this well since you

02:10:06.140 asked your thing's kind of lame and here's why and this is why i like my thing better

02:10:12.620 they ask they open that door so they don't feel like you're attacking them

02:10:16.380 if you get them to be interested and to ask you questions the biggest thing is you need to have

02:10:24.180 the courage within yourself to be proud of what you do when we're hesitant either because

02:10:31.700 we feel odd or we feel different or if it's just we don't want to take the effort to explain it

02:10:38.600 because we know that anything we say is going to come with explanation they come up to you and

02:10:43.640 like you know adam and eve did this thing they know that you know what they're talking about

02:10:48.380 even if you're not a christian if you start talking about asking embla to them asking what's

02:10:55.280 that all right what's that well then what's that okay and it's a long conversation so tell us

02:11:01.280 sometimes we just don't but we should so if you are able to project that you are excited and proud

02:11:09.600 of Ausatru, that's contagious. So do that. Whatever you do, do that. And like I'd say,

02:11:19.380 don't attack them. Tell them what you do that you're very excited about and get them to ask

02:11:26.620 you questions and it puts you in a better position, I think. But I mean, there's any

02:11:33.140 number of right ways or wrong ways, depending upon the audience and situation and whatever

02:11:39.200 Whatever that might be.

02:11:45.900 What are your thoughts on the extra runes in the Anglo-Saxon runic Futhark?

02:11:50.960 Allen.

02:11:51.960 I have not compared and contrast, and so I have no thoughts in that.

02:12:00.840 That's one question I can just say.

02:12:03.960 I have no thoughts on that.

02:12:06.960 Okay.

02:12:07.960 depends on what you're trying to do with them first visually i think they look cool

02:12:17.720 i like the anglo-saxon futhork i think it looks cool another point that um

02:12:25.080 edra thorson made in aloo is that if you're trying to write runically

02:12:31.480 the anglo-saxon futhark is a much better choice than the elder futhark the elder futhark works

02:12:39.940 good if you're trying to write proto-germanic if the point of your your use of the futhark

02:12:49.120 is writing script if it's proto-germanic it's tailor-made to work with the elder futhark

02:12:55.840 If you want to best write Viking, if you want to write in the Old Norse,

02:13:03.060 then the Younger Futhark is built to accommodate those particular sounds in that particular way.

02:13:11.840 But if you want to write in Old English, or for that matter, if you want to write in Modern English,

02:13:17.580 the thing that's going to fit the phonetics and the sounds the best way you want is the Anglo-Saxon Futhark.

02:13:24.880 So, I wonder if the one asking the question is asking about the extra runes to make different noises, or if he is specifically, so something that is a really interesting topic is the quote-unquote grail runes in the Northumbrian version of the Anglo-Saxon Futhork.

02:13:52.460 It has Quirth, Calc, Stan, and Gar.

02:14:01.900 Those are really interesting because nobody seems to have any kind of real good understanding on Quirth.

02:14:10.440 Like the fire screw or the fire all is something that people say with it.

02:14:17.600 I guess I see that ideographically, but calc, meaning chalice or cup, stand, meaning stone, or gar, meaning spear, is really, I think it's really interesting when you look at Pan-Aryan connectivity between elements of Arthurian legend.

02:14:44.500 and that's something that really occurred to me when i read um the mystery of the grail

02:14:52.200 by evola and it points out some really interesting similarities when you look at the

02:14:59.480 various magical items in the grail mythos and you compare them to the celtic gifts of the

02:15:07.560 Tuath Deden, and they've got a lot of very similar items that are gifts from the gods.

02:15:17.740 You see echoes of them in different Greek myths, like the cornucopia, but that's kind of a

02:15:25.180 fascinating rabbit trail to go down sometime. But those runes are really interesting because

02:15:30.980 they're not phonetic rooms they're very specific just for like almost like hieroglyphs of very

02:15:40.100 very specific things and that i think is really really interesting um have you ever read the

02:15:50.660 religion of the aereo germanic folk if so what do you think of it

02:16:01.060 alan is that one you are familiar with it is not i uh i guess i'll try to try to add that to my

02:16:07.780 list i i've not even heard of that so it has been some time since i read it and i don't want to over

02:16:18.100 overextend my critique of it lacking specificity but i will say that

02:16:28.260 von list and his contemporaries had a very not historically accurate understanding of

02:16:37.220 germanic prehistory

02:16:38.740 they were products of their day and i think they did the best that they could with the

02:16:48.520 information available to them um but i think they just got a lot of the facts and a lot of

02:16:56.140 the archaeology wrong a lot of the work hadn't been done in their time it's amazing to think of

02:17:02.020 but people in our you know great grandfather's day or our great great grandfather's day

02:17:07.540 they didn't know that much about you know germanic prehistory it just wasn't a field

02:17:15.880 where a lot of the archaeology hadn't been discovered a lot of the availability of the

02:17:20.820 text that we have today wasn't widely circulated they got real fanciful about

02:17:27.760 i don't know i think theosophic blavatsky and inspired

02:17:33.440 ancient

02:17:36.160 erminist 0.89

02:17:39.060 versus wotinist

02:17:40.460 things that

02:17:42.060 appear to be pure fantasy

02:17:44.380 and I don't know if they're

02:17:45.600 a misplaced memory of something that did

02:17:48.800 exist but in a different way or just

02:17:50.620 how that worked

02:17:51.460 but I think it

02:17:53.660 is fascinating to read

02:17:56.600 about but it's not something

02:17:58.640 that I can honestly put a lot of stock

02:18:00.640 in but I think the intention's in the

02:18:02.680 right place. I just, I think those people didn't know the things that they didn't know and were

02:18:08.340 making the best of what they had. It is a really interesting book. I don't know that it is a very

02:18:13.720 useful book. It is not a book that I would, you know, highly recommend. Yeah. Amazon says I bought

02:18:23.500 it in 2016. So it's in there on the library somewhere. I think I got a lot more out of,

02:18:30.080 What's the book that we, we call it The Wheel and the Donkey?

02:18:34.120 Ah, Deep Ancestors.

02:18:35.880 Deep Ancestors.

02:18:37.280 That's, you know, I mean, if you want to, if you want to go down the rabbit hole, that's the book.

02:18:42.100 Deep Ancestors is much better.

02:18:44.960 So I like the author of The Areodromantic Folk much better than I like the author of Deep Ancestors.

02:18:51.220 But I like the first chapter and you're fine.

02:18:54.440 Yeah, I like the book.

02:18:55.860 I like the contents of the book, again, outside of the first chapter.

02:19:01.040 did you know that the proto-indo-european people came from the same place with the same language

02:19:12.320 at the same time and were all related to each other but they weren't a race you evil racist

02:19:21.200 because that's bad that's a misinterpretation like he literally says that in the first

02:19:27.680 chapter and it doesn't make sense they're all biologically in place and they share the same

02:19:33.920 blood and the same language and the same culture but not race that's bad um the rest of it's really

02:19:42.560 good. So, Alan, is there any way that you and I recommend recognizing one's bad habits

02:20:02.700 and then overcoming them? That's really one of the hardest things to do. And, you know,

02:20:09.960 like I said earlier with the, you know, with the thing about my posture, I mean, it's one of those

02:20:15.700 things that, I think the more time that you spend in mindfulness, the more likely you are to

02:20:24.740 capture one of your bad habits. You know, you know, because I was researching

02:20:36.080 stuff on a totally unrelated topic it came on just and i had that realization that my posture

02:20:44.640 was starting to slip so the um i think the main thing is just to um to

02:20:54.240 to live none of your life on autopilot which you know that's why i don't write checks for

02:20:59.840 my bills instead of having stuff on auto pay because i want to be engaged in all that stuff

02:21:11.200 although i do lose i do use the cruise control

02:21:15.280 but i turned off all the other stuff on the in the car you know the lane assist feature and all

02:21:19.840 that junk that'll save you some tickets you like to get a lead foot i've got places to be

02:21:29.840 i'm sure the the officers love to hear that i'm sure that's convincing

02:21:39.600 they do it's you know it's the time tax i spend less time on the road and occasionally i pay a

02:21:46.720 little bit extra tax for that privilege i am okay with that there you have it job security for

02:21:54.240 Highway Patrol.

02:21:57.520 And Simmons Radar

02:21:58.700 Manufacturing.

02:22:01.860 So,

02:22:02.640 all right.

02:22:06.120 On this theme of habits, routines,

02:22:08.960 ruts and rituals, and the

02:22:10.760 general theme of mindfulness.

02:22:12.600 I've mentioned it on here a number of times.

02:22:14.620 I'll mention it again. I

02:22:16.200 completely stole it from

02:22:18.180 Nine Doors Midgard by

02:22:20.500 Edra Thorson.

02:22:22.720 One of the first

02:22:23.900 Most foundational parts of that curriculum is to create, I think he calls it a Merckstav and a Leostav list, but it's basically a list of positives about yourself and a list of, well, okay, in the order that I said it, a list of negatives about yourself and a list of positives about yourself.

02:22:46.620 And I found that really useful. If you sit and meditate and you try to be brutally honest implies something negative, but you try to be completely objectively honest with yourself and you make a comprehensive list of things that you recognize that you want to improve on in your life.

02:23:09.180 I think it is very important for your objective functioning and for your mental health

02:23:19.560 to do the exact same on be objective about all of the positive things about yourself.

02:23:28.480 Make this list in two columns and revisit it in a prescribed period of time,

02:23:34.960 maybe every month, maybe every few months, however you work it out in your head.

02:23:41.480 And you will notice a shift in columns.

02:23:45.140 That shift can go either way.

02:23:47.720 But if you're doing things right, you'll notice that you start erasing things off that bad list.

02:23:55.400 And you may even start putting their opposites on the good list.

02:24:00.720 and you know you'll also notice when you start slipping and you're like man this time last year

02:24:06.460 I could really say I was really good at this thing now I don't know if I'm being fair I don't

02:24:11.440 know if I can have it there anymore and I think those are important check-in points

02:24:15.820 on how you're progressing I think that has helped me a lot in my life to recognize

02:24:24.700 bad tendencies or things that I wanted to improve on or to discover things that I didn't realize

02:24:35.700 were such a big deal until I sat there and I got really intentional about my thinking and I'm like,

02:24:40.240 you know what? I think this really is problematic. So I think that's something that's helped me a lot

02:24:47.680 in my life on it. All right. And then this from a first-time listener who is listening in Twitch.

02:25:01.700 Who are you and what is this? I don't know any of these big words. Help me out.

02:25:06.600 What am I watching? Alan, who are you and what is this?

02:25:11.820 This is the way of the folk.

02:25:24.880 We are white people doing white man religion in a way that recognizes the past and gives honor to tradition, but manifests it in the 20th century, the 21st century now. 0.54

02:25:50.980 We are practicing old faith in a new way, and we honor and respect our traditions, our ancestors, our gods, and our way of life.

02:26:13.380 And that's who we are, and what we're doing is trying to bring home, publicize this in

02:26:32.140 the best way that we can so that other folk through Twitch, or like my air-conditioned

02:26:39.560 mechanic who saw my Valk nut on the back of my FJ and asked me about that today. True story.

02:26:53.000 And trying to restore

02:26:57.480 a rightful place for honor and nobility in a world that has all but forgotten those traditional

02:27:07.960 values all right hello my name is matt flavel i am the als harrier gothe or the high priest

02:27:20.840 of the austral folk assembly we were founded in january of 1995 we're in our 32nd year as the

02:27:32.200 the Austatru Folk Assembly. We are, you probably will notice the word Austatru means loyal to the

02:27:38.520 Aesir in Old Norse and modern Icelandic. The Aesir are the gods of white people known to our

02:27:50.720 Norse ancestors

02:27:52.720 as 1.00

02:27:53.600 gods you may be familiar with

02:27:56.400 Odin, Thor

02:27:57.880 Freyr, Balder

02:28:00.240 Freya

02:28:02.040 these are the gods

02:28:04.560 of our ancestors as much as they were

02:28:06.460 the gods of our ancestors

02:28:07.980 they are the gods of us still

02:28:10.040 and they will be the gods of our descendants

02:28:12.240 this is a reflection

02:28:14.500 of the original

02:28:16.180 religion of our people

02:28:18.420 before the coming of

02:28:20.620 other religions from different parts of the world, like Christianity from Middle Eastern people.

02:28:27.520 We practice our faith. We have, at present, we have five Hoffs. A Hoff is a temple or

02:28:36.060 our houses of worship. And we are here doing a show called Victory Never Sleeps, which is

02:28:43.900 meant to present Ausitru to interested people and to take questions from the audience on

02:28:53.200 any questions they might have about how we practice our faith or the implication of different

02:28:59.620 things that they deal with in their life as relates to Ausitru. Also, each of our shows

02:29:04.780 tends to be focused around a topic or a presenter, a bit of history or elements of our lore.

02:29:13.900 So that's what you stumbled into.

02:29:17.380 If you find it uplifting and spiritually beneficial, awesome.

02:29:21.560 If you find it entertaining, that's good, too.

02:29:23.600 We appreciate that you're here and that you're checking it out.

02:29:32.240 Thanks for stopping by.

02:29:35.580 Okay, and the response, I guess, that Nick's thrown in the private chat.

02:29:39.100 Sorry, y'all.

02:29:39.740 i thought i stumbled across something gold to troll but y'all are real cult or not you're very

02:29:46.460 real i still have no idea what y'all represent but power to y'all hey thank you for that that's

02:29:52.220 all we ask thank you what do you think of carl young alan um we bred some young i you know to

02:30:06.860 the extent that i think psychology and i'm certainly consider myself a jungian like if

02:30:16.380 if i am correct my understanding of psychology you know the modern psychology

02:30:25.980 begins its division you know you're with freud and young and i'm certainly a jungian in that sense

02:30:32.780 I think Jung had some very valid insights into the operation of the Western soul. He was,

02:30:44.060 you know, he is an Austrian, I think, and so he is operating within the paradigm of our own people.

02:30:52.220 So he understands himself and he understands ourselves

02:30:58.380 um from that uniquely western perspective i know he had some very powerful and profound

02:31:09.820 and positive things to say about wotan and um and its presentation to the germanic soul

02:31:22.940 so

02:31:27.580 You know, I guess, you know, beyond that, I don't have a deep understanding.

02:31:35.020 I listen to a big part of the Red Book, although, you know, I just I don't spend enough time thinking and living in the idea of psychology versus spirituality to really have a deep understanding of what exactly Jung was trying to get at and some of his ideas.

02:31:57.580 But I think he had some, you know, some positive and insightful things to say about psychoanalysis.

02:32:06.620 And so to the extent that I give that validity, I'm certainly a young kid.

02:32:13.320 I repeated that. I apologize.

02:32:14.660 so

02:32:26.340 it's hard to speak authoritatively on it because young was such a voluminous writer that

02:32:36.820 unless you are a psychologist or a psychology student by vocation and you have devoted your

02:32:46.100 life to reading all of his very deep psychological treatises you go on these snippets of young and

02:32:55.460 when he wrote about something that intersects with something you're interested in or you know i often

02:33:02.340 learn about Jung from other people talking about Jung or from, you know, them relating

02:33:08.740 their experiences in life with him or them synthesizing their thoughts of his work on

02:33:15.420 a different, you know, piece here and there.

02:33:21.720 Matter of fact, I just read a couple of weeks ago a really, a really cool book by Miguel

02:33:31.340 serrano called a record of two friendships one of the friendships he talked about there was his

02:33:37.900 correspondence and visits with young in the 1950s and

02:33:49.740 it was really interesting i mean he's certainly a fascinating guy and a guy that i really would

02:33:54.780 have liked to have met or to sit down and have a conversation with i think

02:34:05.820 as relates to us

02:34:09.980 he existed at a time where you could talk about race that involved white people

02:34:16.620 without having to be ashamed or having to qualify a bunch of self-deprecation

02:34:21.900 you could acknowledge that different races of people have very different characters and very

02:34:28.240 different psychological elements that move them that animate them and work through them

02:34:34.000 and one of the things that he talked a lot about that is clearly foundational to

02:34:41.180 folkishness and to our founders work metagenetics is the idea of the collective unconscious the

02:34:53.060 collective subconscious the folk soul and he talked about that in a number of different

02:34:57.980 permutations but the idea that there were these inherent forces within the soul and

02:35:03.140 the nature of a people that animate them towards certain things i don't like that he approaches

02:35:13.780 divinity in atheistic language about archetypes and about you know thought forms and like

02:35:23.220 patterns that you can give a god's name to to talk about that i think that comes a step beyond

02:35:32.980 a non-recognition but it goes through an academics lens of atheism that i dislike

02:35:40.740 but from my understanding as he moved further and further through his life he

02:35:49.660 certainly became more mystically inclined i don't think he was ever religious religious

02:35:57.460 but he became much more open to things that at the time would be considered mysticism

02:36:03.740 and he recognized the very distinct contrast between

02:36:09.140 eastern people and europeans between specifically orientals as well but specifically like

02:36:19.660 indians and there and he was fascinated by india and indian spirituality but

02:36:24.820 he really recognized the difference between white people and other groups of people and how

02:36:31.940 we relate to intellectual ideas to pursuits of power to more base pursuits how those things

02:36:46.000 factored in and his work was really pioneering in in the subconscious and i think that's really

02:36:53.740 important and i think he was a really important counterbalance to freudian everything's about

02:37:03.540 perversion analysis so i i like jung at a distance but i can't claim to fully

02:37:12.760 have been able to digest exactly where jung is on a lot of deep points and i also think he was

02:37:21.020 somebody that evolved over the course of his life in his orientation to a lot of those points,

02:37:28.040 certainly in his orientation to the afterlife and to more mystical concepts.

02:37:35.840 But again, I would have loved to have met him.

02:37:38.160 I think he's a fascinating man, and I like learning new things about him.

02:37:41.980 All right. Well, that is the questions that we have tonight. Is there any parting thoughts

02:37:54.720 you would like to leave the audience with? No. I mean, I think we've covered it all.

02:38:01.700 You know the – be nice to people, have good habits, drive like you mean it.

02:38:19.100 And if you're coming slow, get in the right lane.

02:38:23.380 There you have it.

02:38:29.200 yeah folks life is short live intentionally make good use of the time that you have towards

02:38:37.860 purposes legacy destiny things that you'll be proud of make yourself the best version of

02:38:45.560 yourself you can be move towards that wherever you're at you can always make yourself better

02:38:53.120 and we should always be making ourselves better and where you're able help those around you to

02:38:59.700 be better as well. All right. Well, I will see y'all next week. Svon will be back on to talk

02:39:09.240 about the guilt beginning and yeah, looking forward to seeing you guys then. Till then,

02:39:17.320 hail the Iseer, hail the folk, hail the AFA. And remember, victory never sleeps.

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02:39:53.120 We'll be right back.

02:40:23.120 We'll be right back.

02:40:53.120 Thank you.

02:41:23.120 We'll be right back.

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02:42:23.120 Amen.

Asatru Folk Assembly - January 29, 2026

1⧸28⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 186 - Habits, Routines, Ruts, and Rituals

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