Asatru Folk Assembly - 1⧸31⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 82 - Hávamál, Part 1

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00:04:00.000 Hello, and welcome, everybody, to another exciting edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:04:12.700 Tonight, Witten Svahn returns, and we begin our study of the Have-Em-All.

00:04:22.220 Before we do that, and right at the top of the program, I'd like it if producer Nick 0.94

00:04:28.340 can throw the link to the bellows translation of the have them all that we will be

00:04:37.060 reading from so folks can follow along also and this might be fun too if you're

00:04:43.540 just looking to be different any other translation of the have them all you would like

00:04:51.220 we don't have one that we specifically recommend

00:04:54.980 uh i mean i suppose we have several that we specifically recommend but i don't think you're

00:05:01.080 going to i don't think you're going to do wrong by picking any of them that you find and finding

00:05:07.440 one that uh that you like and you know perhaps noticing where it's different than the bellows

00:05:14.480 translation um so yeah and this is handy and i reserve the right to change this down the line

00:05:24.620 but i think this is the one that we might be using for quite a bit of our

00:05:29.820 um lore episodes as they continue it's the same one we used for our blospow study

00:05:39.100 i did want to make a recommendation uh it has the bellows translation but it also has

00:05:43.740 some other translations right next to it there is another website called awakenthenorth.org

00:05:49.020 that has um thorpe bellows hollander and aud and taylor we're all right next to each other

00:05:56.520 but no old norse so that's yeah and that's one of the things there you know each of

00:06:04.900 you can find a lot of different sources many of you may have physical copies in hand um if you're

00:06:12.120 looking on here and i suppose all too often on the show i assume everybody is watching it and

00:06:17.920 that's not always the case. A lot of people are listening to it as a podcast as well on Spotify.

00:06:23.760 Those come out on Friday. So in that case, um,

00:06:30.700 Velozpa.org is the, uh, the website that we're, that we're going to be reading from.

00:06:38.140 Um, some notes for the top of the program.

00:06:42.520 we have charming of the plow at newardshoff in white springs florida coming up

00:06:51.940 just over two weeks from now and i'm pretty excited about that it's going to be fantastic

00:06:59.560 um i will be down there for that i would love to see you guys there if you can make it

00:07:04.160 um if you're interested in going uh please get with your local folk builder

00:07:08.840 and they can get you all set up there's also a link that nick is putting up now but uh yeah if

00:07:15.500 you can make it it's worth it it's a beautiful time to be in florida it's not muggy and gross

00:07:23.220 yet but it is sunny and beautiful it's going to be an amazing time um yeah come check out

00:07:31.620 new orbshoff and i'd love to love to meet you and if i have already met you i'd love to

00:07:37.120 get to catch up with you and see how you've been um also if you can't make it to charming of the

00:07:45.460 plow or even if you can uh we've got ostara at thor's hof coming up in march it's another one

00:07:54.600 that uh i will be attending i'm very excited about that it's it's a beautiful hof it's amazing

00:08:02.520 it's one of the most powerful uh murals that uh Svan's ever painted it was his first one and it's

00:08:10.960 spectacular great people there so I look forward to seeing you there if you can make it and that

00:08:16.260 one's in March uh the 22nd to the 24th we have that one Nick's got the graphic up again if you'd

00:08:23.320 like to make it reach out to your local folk builder and they can see about making that happen

00:08:27.860 i think that's what we got on top of the program here uh just another note if anybody wants to

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00:09:04.140 So we appreciate you guys in advance.

00:09:07.560 And I think with that, we can, oh, just a side note.

00:09:15.620 Tracy Young over in the chat room, new member, welcome aboard.

00:09:19.280 We're glad to have you.

00:09:20.720 And I mentioned earlier, this is your first time listening to Victory Never Sleeps.

00:09:25.040 So welcome and feel free to ask any questions you want. Also, it goes for everybody else. So similar to, or the exact same as how we did in the Lustfau episodes, but different from the typical BNS format, please ask any and all questions you want.

00:09:44.940 Svon and I will stay on and answer all those questions we're going to try to answer the ones

00:09:51.020 that are really pertinent to the current study while we're reading the text and go back and get

00:09:57.820 all the more random or you know unrelated questions afterwards but don't be offended if

00:10:07.420 we skip yours it's not because we're not going to answer it it's just because we're uh waiting

00:10:11.740 until the end of the show to do it yeah with that um svan can you start by

00:10:23.180 telling them a little bit about the have them all itself i and about the uh

00:10:31.340 etymology of the name how them all

00:10:33.900 how the mall yeah how the mall is i mean that it's kind of it gets translated uh in different

00:10:45.560 ways and you got to understand that there have been a lot of people that have done translations

00:10:49.780 and um so generally it will be referred to as the sayings of howard um and and that can translate

00:10:59.820 to the sayings of the high one uh the words of the high one the words of just the high um but

00:11:07.640 it's it it would be more like directly translate like halva is high or or a loft and and of great

00:11:16.360 value um or great like like the word zenith um is it's that's what i would always kind of compare

00:11:23.320 it to is when we think of zenith what does zenith mean it means the highest point of an arc or or

00:11:29.180 or of an ascendance and then after that it's a descendance so it's kind of like a zenith and

00:11:36.140 it's the words of the zenith and uh i know that's kind of a it's more of a foreign or an outside

00:11:42.940 teutonic word but it does capture kind of the reason why the translations kind of hop

00:11:48.860 and um i really like that idea that it's remembering that this is coming from upon

00:11:54.780 high. This is coming from one who is high in wisdom, that one who is high in station and high

00:12:01.260 in sacrifice. His position in the world and the cosmology of our faith is that Lord Woven is

00:12:10.120 as detailed or as perhaps maybe grounded and oriented in simple transactional ideas between

00:12:18.920 humans as he is with perhaps tapping into the root of the cosmos. It's such a kind of crazy

00:12:27.480 thing that happens as the poem starts to grow and become more. And I say that because there's

00:12:35.400 speculation that the poem might be an amalgamation of groups of poems. And so it's generally

00:12:42.080 seen as sectionalized. And whether these sections are right or wrong, it does help

00:12:50.820 with our understanding of the poems and why they have such kind of a, what would seem like a jarring

00:12:58.180 tempo. It's because these parts are unique unto themselves and may have either amalgamated over

00:13:05.920 time and were presented when they were written down in the Codis Regius, or that they might

00:13:13.560 have been brought together there, but it's not, there's no really way of knowing. And

00:13:19.700 so we have to look at these sections with a kind of, I wouldn't say a minuteness, but

00:13:28.580 it just, it helps to framework our stepping forward as we do this, because this is a very

00:13:34.440 big poem um it's and it covers a lot of ground and it also makes marks towards things that it

00:13:42.840 never made marks before um so you know especially speaking towards like the latter half in the lay

00:13:50.440 of lodfafnir uh that is where uh or lord favnir is where it it gets interesting like why why all

00:13:59.160 of a sudden and so there's a cool kind of understanding that perhaps uh these poems were

00:14:04.600 separate and uh eventually kind of melded together and that was kind of another thing i i spoke a lot

00:14:11.080 about uh during the volus vow is that the scalds were getting good and they were able to transmit

00:14:18.920 this poem orally so that it could be written down um and they did it most likely uh and i'm a

00:14:26.520 believer that they started combining them before it was written down um and that's what allowed us

00:14:33.000 to uh get the entirety of the picture and i think that a lot of that may be it well it's in my

00:14:40.200 belief that it was lord wothin's will that led that to happen um now i'm not saying that the

00:14:47.720 halvamal is uh say uh these are it's interesting because these are the words of lord wothin but

00:14:56.520 It's it's it's an interesting poem in our faith because it it is the wisdom of him, but it is not edict down to one singular person.

00:15:08.120 And as I was here, he kind of jokes sometimes and says, you know, Lord, well, then didn't come down and say, write this or, you know, stone tablets or or what have you.

00:15:18.000 that's a very man-made religious idea for us it's the influence of the of the holy divine as they

00:15:26.080 they um weave and drip and ripple the water of the well of earth they begin to influence things

00:15:36.320 outside of just things that we might consider like storms for thor it's much more than that

00:15:42.240 it's much deeper than that and they have an a vested interest in doing these things and i think

00:15:47.700 that Lord Volden tailored this motion towards amalgamating these wisdoms, and it became exactly

00:15:57.180 what it needed to be at the behest of Lord Volden. But we have many translations, and we don't ever

00:16:04.480 postulate that, you know, it is the singular truth, and don't pay attention to all these

00:16:09.940 translations. In actuality, the Auschwitz-Ravoc Assembly takes a broad view of the ideas that

00:16:15.700 it's best to look at all the variations to understand why translations are the way they

00:16:21.280 are, why Hollander wants to use poetics and try to revitalize Anglo-Saxon poetic culture,

00:16:28.440 or why Thorpe liked to use almost literal translations, but his spelling was very odd.

00:16:34.720 It's a, it's a tapestry. And so it, it branches off into many different directions. So the way I

00:16:42.940 i like to tell people is that you could look at this in five or four sections i tend to do it in

00:16:48.700 four and that's kind of how um me and i was here ago they were talking about how to organize this

00:16:55.260 and try to make it we're shooting for the framework of four but it might take more who knows um but

00:17:03.660 the the uh the the best way that i i've always looked at it is there is the councils which is

00:17:10.220 the edicts of of men and how they should act there is like the the proverbials or proverbs

00:17:17.580 and then there is the lay of fafna of of uh the lay of lord fafnir now that when you start seeing

00:17:27.740 the name load fafnir you're in the middle of the poem and so then after that comes the rune the

00:17:35.740 rune poem and the magic charms and they're kind of the the runa towel is as it's been you know listed

00:17:43.420 is um uh kind of together so the the four parts um is is where i would say is is the the councils

00:17:54.380 the proverbs the lay of lodfafnir and then the runic magic or the runic charm section um and

00:18:02.620 that would be a great way for you to simplify it in order to digest it there are other ways you can

00:18:08.940 look at this and you could kind of pick them apart in that way but i'm going for what's easiest for

00:18:14.780 everyone what stands are we running to tonight that is an interesting question else you're going

00:18:23.980 um i mean i wanted to run to 79 because that's where i consider the the the guest councils

00:18:36.780 to kind of end and or the the counseling of of of men but you know is it lofty

00:18:46.140 uh at any moment you could just simply say we'll stop here and continue on

00:18:50.780 fair enough and we might do that um that number sounds like a lot when compared to

00:18:57.980 uh the bliss vow but something to consider is there's a lot more

00:19:06.220 obscurity in the bliss file there's a lot more poetic language and need to understand um

00:19:13.740 deeper things one of the one of the cool things about the have them all it is is it is very

00:19:22.380 accessible it's very straightforward and uh and i think that's going to be

00:19:30.860 you know it there is certainly benefit in delving into to the deeper imagery of some

00:19:35.580 of the other poems but there's also a a very tangible usefulness of of the album all that

00:19:42.540 i think will be a good uh a good and useful thing to our our listeners and folks who are watching

00:19:50.140 this yeah i think the directness of it is is something that might help us get through more

00:19:56.140 content but you know questions and things are always a wild card so i mean as long as it takes

00:20:02.460 is this how long we can keep doing this and uh you just give the uh all right let's stop here and

00:20:08.540 we just keep you know formulating from there all right so i'm gonna do the opposite of that let's

00:20:15.200 start here and uh go ahead and take us through stanza one and i think we can fill in any any

00:20:24.220 details and any any stuff but i think we're ready to jump right in okay yeah and it's uh i speaking

00:20:30.820 just briefly about translations um i you know we were talking earlier about i have a translation

00:20:35.740 from Sophus Boog, but the Bellows translation has a perfect balance of poetics with directness,

00:20:46.160 so I think that's going to help us as well, and it's very relatable. Hollander and Thorpe have

00:20:51.060 a tendency to get very poetic and utilizing usage and spelling and words that might throw people

00:20:58.820 off so if anyone was ever wondering why we chose bellows that's predominantly why

00:21:08.660 so let me uh put my my book translation away though i might reference it later um

00:21:18.420 in the first stanza what we have truly is an immediate sense that a guest much like in the

00:21:27.700 the Volospao when the poet is trying to calm the crowd down and let them know that a poem

00:21:35.040 is about to be, you know, the recitation of a poem is about to be laid out before everyone

00:21:42.000 and this kind of becomes part of the poem. In this case, it's almost like the entirety

00:21:49.000 of this starts out with what is called the guest of the the the rules or the um etiquettes or the

00:22:00.940 guidelines of the guest and it kind of also then begins the reciprocal uh relationship with the

00:22:09.980 host as well but you are the guest and it starts with you the listener being at the door of a hall

00:22:18.800 or of a home or of a mead hall, if you will, or it can apply to very much anywhere.

00:22:28.640 But try to place yourself as a coming to this hall, the door is closed, and the immediate

00:22:38.400 wisdoms of the High One are starting to be laid down. So, within the gates, ere a man shall go,

00:22:51.340 full warily let him watch, full long let him look about him, for little he knows

00:23:01.160 where a foe may lurk and sit in the seats within.

00:23:08.400 So right out the gate, this is an exaltation of caution, that no one knows what enemy might

00:23:20.880 be presented. And contextually to the time, this had a lot of power. You might have made an enemy

00:23:29.660 at the Altinger many months ago, and now you're going into a hall and you don't know who's your

00:23:36.540 enemy and who's your ally and what is expected of you or or you only have a loose guideline but

00:23:42.340 you're not quite sure the best way that i it's so funny i remember a saying from general mattis

00:23:48.420 who said be polite be courteous but have a plan to kill everyone in the room

00:23:52.380 it's a a kind of a marine corps uh axiom of of or nugget of truth that he's he kind of blurbed out

00:24:02.840 and it made me think of this um stanza when he said it was you just never know so have contingency

00:24:11.960 plans always be weary but also be polite be nice and follow the rules so one thing that that i love

00:24:21.640 about this and it starts just out out the gate with it um also true as a religion

00:24:32.840 that is inseparable from lifestyle. It's not a religious practice that you do when you're at the

00:24:46.280 Hoff or a specific way that you perform Lotar. It's a way of thinking, way of seeing the world,

00:24:54.120 way of being. And so a lot of it, especially that you will find in the Habamal, is infinitely

00:25:01.160 practical on high spiritual occasions and the most mundane like you're walking into a bar

00:25:09.020 you're walking into the store um not even joking you're find yourself in the men's room like keep

00:25:18.420 your head on a swivel don't let folks behind you that you don't know who's behind you um

00:25:25.800 be aware of your surroundings uh in you know i've heard referred to often as situational awareness

00:25:37.000 when you enter a new environment or when you re-enter a familiar environment

00:25:43.080 be aware pick up on little things spend more time ingesting information up front than you do

00:25:52.520 just vomiting forth whatever you think you have to say take in the scene take in read the room

00:26:02.480 as it were and that goes for action that goes for speech be aware one of the things

00:26:08.880 one of the things I learned when I was bouncing is you know we'd get done bouncing and we'd

00:26:16.980 have a rowdy night where crazy stuff would go on. And it was really, you know, big club slash bar.

00:26:23.340 It was a thousand person capacity in Anchorage. So stuff would get squirrely. And then we'd go

00:26:29.520 out to eat afterwards. The guy who taught me everything I knew about that particular industry

00:26:39.120 and a lot about situational awareness was one of the things that he taught me is, you know,

00:26:45.700 you go into a restaurant don't sit with your back to the door sit you know sit to where you can see

00:26:52.660 what's coming at you to where you're aware of what's going on because you never know if we

00:26:56.500 could have had an interaction or thrown somebody out that pops through that door you're not paying

00:27:00.820 attention you're drinking your milkshake or eating your you know eating your eggs and somebody comes

00:27:06.980 up behind you so that's uh i think that's really valuable the situational awareness

00:27:12.500 yeah i mean and it's again what you made mention of is not just lifestyle it's it becomes multiple

00:27:22.940 lifestyles of the folk all together and that develops into a culture and so we have this

00:27:28.660 culture and when we talk about like also true as a warrior religion it's because there is a heavy

00:27:34.580 emphasis in our culture towards um preparedness towards uh masculine masculine tendencies of

00:27:42.900 defense and because knowing that the world is not always a safe place that the gods never uh intended

00:27:50.340 for us to from the get-go to be in a safe and cushy garden or um safe space we from the onset

00:27:59.060 we're let you know let out to be tested and and that requires us and hones us in our culture

00:28:06.340 towards the idea and that's why i just right out the gate he's talking about it

00:28:11.620 stay frosty like as soon as you walk into a place the the tone though changes and this is not i

00:28:20.980 think intended it's just something that i as a storyteller have always kind of um

00:28:26.500 is is not so much generally this is uh the next stanza is seen as the guest um and it it has a

00:28:37.020 good stance but um i've always taken it as a storyteller that the storyteller is standing

00:28:43.040 there and he sees a guest come through the door and the first thing that he says is in essence is

00:28:50.780 Hail the king, hail the host, hail the person who's opening his hall to guests.

00:28:58.200 And he announces a guest.

00:29:01.280 So the line, hail to the giver, is kind of giving towards the king or towards the jarl or towards the lord or the owner of the household.

00:29:11.340 A guest has come.

00:29:12.420 And so I've always kind of saw that quite like in my head as a playing out of a storyteller or a scald kind of taking this moment to perhaps even physically utilize a guest coming in as the embarking part of the story to to lay about these maxims of guest friendliness.

00:29:37.780 but uh that's the second stanza hail to the giver a guest has come where shall a stranger sit and

00:29:44.880 here it says you know like where i cannot see where a stranger sits is what it's kind of

00:29:51.360 referred to in the old norse um and it says you know swift uh shall he be who with swords shall

00:30:00.460 try the proof of his might to make and this is an interesting one too because the the referencing

00:30:07.360 of, of swords, um, in relation to, uh, perhaps other translations, um, the, uh, the idea of

00:30:19.500 his raiments or his, um, equipment or gear or, or things, it's kind of seen as, like,

00:30:30.580 the person who is trying his luck at travel at um perhaps coming into the hall it's not quite

00:30:40.540 specified i've always taken it as the dangers of travel so it's like this person has come

00:30:45.520 they're wearing adornments of protection and clothing of uh and coats and things because

00:30:52.140 they've just dared to you know travel the long road to get here and so i've always taken this uh

00:30:59.600 you know, that with much haste, with all of his gear and accoutrements, has come to make

00:31:11.040 proof or try his luck or his boon to, you know, be here, to meet with us, to partake

00:31:21.640 in the party or the gathering. So this second stanza is a little confusing. It's kind of

00:31:29.000 clear in the beginning but at the end you'll notice a lot of the translations

00:31:33.800 kind of uh place like the sword or uh you know sitting by the fire

00:31:39.160 um but it always kind of boils down to they've they've

00:31:43.080 tested their luck to come across the roads so far

00:31:46.520 and in in danger uh to be here with us is kind of the overall meaning of this

00:31:53.560 second uh stanza

00:31:59.000 hmm um so we have you know the uh hail to the lord the guest has come where shall he sit i

00:32:10.460 cannot see a spot for him and he has come across the roads and and bore much to be here in this

00:32:17.340 gathering and and try his luck or weave the luck that we have together here he needs a fire or fire

00:32:25.000 he needs, excuse me, fire he needs, stanza three, fire he needs, who with frozen knees has come

00:32:32.640 from the cold without. Food and clothes must be the fair, must the fairer have. The man from the

00:32:41.180 mountains come. So it's interesting and specific. I think Bellows is attempting poetics with a

00:32:57.640 great sense of making it adaptable to English, but not looking at like perhaps say like old

00:33:04.840 english or a specific type of poetic form but what we end up finding is that here is uh you know the

00:33:12.120 the the fire is warm and outside is cold and the reference to the knees being cold is uh

00:33:20.120 is um more along the lines of a horse rider if you're riding a horse and you're you come in you

00:33:26.440 know that's one of the it's like being on a motorcycle and getting your hands frozen it's

00:33:30.360 just something that you know and colloquially i think that that's what he's alluding to is

00:33:35.000 his knees are cold because he's he's been riding on a horse um

00:33:43.160 you know the the uh fire he needs who with with frozen knees i just i always an interesting but

00:33:52.440 again um i digress the uh the usage of this stanza again is re-emphasizing that the host is providing

00:34:01.240 key elements and this one of course being the fire and the man from the mountain i think is just

00:34:09.720 really more or less a a person of the far outreaches someone has come from far away

00:34:16.120 to be here um from the fial he comes and that's kind of a usage word of mountains or a mountain

00:34:25.140 um but he needs this place and this is provided and then in stanza four water and towels and

00:34:33.900 welcoming speech should he find who comes to the feast if renowned he would get and again

00:34:43.320 be, let me see, greeted wisely and well must he act. So this is where,

00:34:51.420 um, again, they're laying that dichotomy of guests to host the water and towels.

00:35:00.220 Um, I remember it was quite common. Uh, the, the first time ever at a fellow

00:35:06.920 house that, you know, a drink was offered. Water generally was the drink. Would you like a glass

00:35:14.840 of water? Would you like anything to drink? That was so common. And I think it's very common in

00:35:18.920 our culture now because there is no dissecting between, you know, old Norse Germanics and modern

00:35:25.640 day American Germanics. The idea was, yeah, do you need a drink? Anything? And then towels, of course,

00:35:32.940 was wiping your hands, wiping your face, uh, or dealing with any sort of, uh, elemental

00:35:39.160 issues. Um, and this was kind of the time in which the guests might pull out their comb and

00:35:46.200 recorrect themselves from the ride. And, um, it's, it's, uh, the reference to food and clothes,

00:35:56.460 food and clothes must the fairer have is basically a, the, the traveler is dressed. The,

00:36:03.640 the traveler is bedecked in garb for the travel and is starting to recorrect, readjust, perhaps

00:36:12.140 taking the coat off or taking the cloak or, or, or what have you, the, the outer jackets. And

00:36:19.740 it kind of references settling in. But the other part of this is welcoming speech and acting wisely,

00:36:30.540 I think is the next part. You know, having someone recognize you when you come in,

00:36:40.540 having someone note that you're new or that you're in the right place and you're welcome,

00:36:47.960 it was so important and i think that generally a lot of that was a a cultural responsibility

00:36:55.400 of the women in the hall the women of the folk oftentimes would take these moments to oh you're

00:37:01.640 new hi welcome and it um ladies have always been kind of bearers of of the olive branch if you will

00:37:11.160 or the weavers of friv they were there with goodly speech to welcome the person and to let them know

00:37:17.880 what they needed to know you need to put your things there you need to come over here if you

00:37:22.040 want a hot drink and you want to sit down over here and welcome to you know the hall or welcome

00:37:27.640 to our home uh it was so clear cut but there's they're painting a cultural uh like constitution

00:37:39.000 that was alive then and is still well sometimes but i i think in also true itself is still very

00:37:46.760 much alive yeah it's um these verses are really important to reinforce the hospitality is one of

00:37:55.400 our one of our noble virtues it's a very important element of also true and so is reputation and

00:38:04.200 that's one of the things this also points out we've all heard the expression you know you don't

00:38:09.480 get a second second chance at a first impression first impressions mean so much and

00:38:20.120 there are many ways that uh also true goes in the face of

00:38:27.720 things that are in vogue in uh the current wolf age that we find ourselves in

00:38:32.680 we're all about judging don't be obnoxious and overly judge but as the very first line of the

00:38:41.160 album all that we read talks about you need to judge your surroundings you need to judge people

00:38:46.280 and you judge very often by what you see you judge with your eyes first you know that goes to some of

00:38:54.040 the discussion in the chat room about obesity and we'll talk about that later but yes your physical

00:38:59.940 how you carry yourself your physical state of being says a lot about your character and it puts

00:39:05.460 out a lot of intangibles that communicate to us non-verbally things but it also talks about how

00:39:12.180 you know if you want renown and if you want to be invited again you need to know how to act right

00:39:17.860 so you need to be conscious that at any occasion you could be making the very first impression on

00:39:25.060 somebody and it your future hospitality that you are in line to receive is is dependent upon

00:39:33.780 the impression you make with the host and the other people in the room with you um

00:39:40.020 this modern idea of i don't care what other people thinks that's completely antithetical to

00:39:45.860 house true you should absolutely care what everyone thinks you should care you know even

00:39:51.700 if you hate them you should care that what your foe thinks your you should want your foe to be

00:39:57.220 intimidated by you if your foe is much more powerful than you then you should want your

00:40:01.540 foe not to notice you but more importantly to to the context here you should want people to

00:40:08.420 think highly of you to think that you're come from good stock that you are you have wisdom

00:40:17.540 that you have capability of handling yourself you should absolutely care how you present yourself

00:40:22.500 how other people see you um and that was paramount to our ancestors and should be to us today

00:40:32.980 yeah that polarization between the guest and the host and the value that they have

00:40:38.980 the guest should judge those around him when he goes into the hall because he doesn't know what

00:40:45.060 he's facing and the host too has the right to judge the guest as they come in by what they

00:40:53.380 you know how they are how they act and that renown and i like the fact that the usage of

00:40:58.180 the word renown in uh reference to the the ability to gain popularity or not not even popularity but

00:41:06.500 just perhaps uh a power of presence that can grow it's they're they're erring towards the positive

00:41:14.980 that's the desire that's wanted but the value of judging is immediately nullified if we all think

00:41:24.340 oh don't you know don't judge a book by its cover don't do this don't do that it softens the value

00:41:30.900 of anyone's opinion anyways including your own so you sacrifice um or mute other people's opinions

00:41:39.140 to kind of shield yourself but you also devalue your own opinion and here's the thing reality is

00:41:44.420 what matters this feel good don't offend each other silliness isn't you absolutely should judge

00:41:52.260 a book by its cover we all do that that shouldn't be the end of your judgment but it certainly should

00:41:59.220 be the beginning of your judgment um and that's a survival skill on anything you assess with your

00:42:05.620 eyes first don't be overconfident with that there's certainly more to the story but that's

00:42:10.820 absolutely where we should all start and whether we admit it or not it's the place where we all

00:42:16.660 instinctively do start well so we move into the the the adjustment of the clothes the giving of

00:42:30.980 a food and of um you know drink and or our food and like clothing or a warm blanket or a place to

00:42:41.300 sit um is is given out but again they're starting to um leak in the idea that there's wisdom that

00:42:50.980 must be had in the words that you use and the people that you encounter and um so in stanza

00:42:57.540 five uh wits must he have who wanders wide but all is easy at home at the witless man the wise

00:43:07.940 shall wink when among such men he sits. So this usage of the word, well, obviously the first

00:43:17.260 two lines are pretty straightforward. You got to be smart if you travel. You have to,

00:43:24.980 you're going to learn. There's a steep learning curve in traveling. And it's, yeah, it is safe

00:43:29.880 to stay at home, but you gain nothing from it. You gain no wit. You gain no allegiance.

00:43:36.120 you gain no knowledge if you don't ever put yourself out there on the road

00:43:41.260 you you end up becoming a coal a coal chewer as they called it a child that stayed at home

00:43:48.980 was oftentimes called a coal chewer because they were um you know staying near the fire of their

00:43:54.480 mother and father's hall and it was kind of a derogatory term and so again culturally

00:43:59.760 i think it's important that we don't have this um concept that you you know need to to leave

00:44:07.220 uh for the sake and kind of become an atomized unit but it's it's that you're going out into

00:44:13.700 the world and gaining wits allows you to come back to your people make your parents proud

00:44:19.040 make your people understand that you've learned so much so you know you have to have wits when

00:44:24.420 go out there into the world because it is easy at home but again if you stay at home you become this

00:44:32.660 witless man and the why shall wink is translated as uh oftentimes will become a laughing stock um

00:44:42.180 or you know is laughed at so i i find it interesting that he's used that

00:44:48.980 what's that i got an anecdote so yeah

00:45:01.060 i'm okay i'm just gonna throw it out there i might have been petty but i think it was a

00:45:06.900 nice thing to do for one of the people there anyways it is what it is um i went to an

00:45:14.900 It wasn't really an Ausatru event per se, but it was a book signing for a friend of mine who had

00:45:23.700 written a book related to Ausatru. And so I went to be supportive and some Ausatru are and some

00:45:30.520 others who were inclined to attend this went to a dinner afterwards. And there was this

00:45:38.900 teenage boy who was there. He was very uncomfortable. His mother was there with a

00:45:48.720 stepdad, I don't think. I think it was a guy she was dating. I'm not sure. But he was

00:46:00.900 very rude and boorish and

00:46:02.980 a very big embarrassment to this young man because this guy was with his mom and it was

00:46:09.520 kind of a scene you could tell he was very embarrassed well this guy couldn't you know

00:46:14.280 the guy the stepdad slash dude the mom was seeing was so full of himself and he couldn't stop with

00:46:21.800 how great he is and what a genius he was and all this stuff and we sat we listened we sat we 0.93

00:46:26.360 listened and again he was making a fool out of himself so we all kind of looked at each other

00:46:30.020 And, you know, I don't think that we wink as much in this context because, you know, that would be that would not be very hetero of us, per se. 0.73

00:46:41.080 So we would look at each other and kind of make a face.

00:46:44.360 And that's the point that's being made here.

00:46:47.000 When we looked at this kid and, you know, he saw where he was at and he was uncomfortable.

00:46:50.700 So something that another gentleman who was there with me did was we started conversationally speaking the lyrics to Whitney Houston's, I believe the children are our future.

00:47:11.920 We would conversationally speak it back and forth to each other in response to this guy.

00:47:18.160 And he had no idea, which made it awesome.

00:47:21.260 so you know i believe children are our future teach them well let them show the way

00:47:29.500 show them all the beauty that they possess inside yeah give them a sense of pride and

00:47:35.180 was he responding to this well yeah because we were looking at the kid and the kid knew exactly

00:47:40.300 what was going on and his face lit up and he was able to hold his head high and have a good night

00:47:46.460 and that was kind of why we did it it wasn't that although that was a side point it was more to

00:47:54.460 help this kid know that he wasn't the only one um but i i digress no that's that's great because it

00:48:03.980 does kind of i think it what you you're capturing is bellows and what he was trying to insinuate

00:48:11.100 because times have changed in the way that we think of like a wink but generally the idea of

00:48:17.560 course was like the in you're in the joke right get a load of this guy um you know you think i

00:48:22.320 think about the old uh cartoons like where you know they're like breaking the fourth wall and

00:48:27.340 they're winking at the audience and saying you know what a maroon that's kind of your if you

00:48:33.320 don't heed the advice if you are the improper guest and that's full of himself other people

00:48:40.000 around the table are going to muster their their wits against you don't be that guy don't be that

00:48:45.980 guy and you know what so this is another again digression we may not get all the way to 79 on

00:48:53.340 this right um but but it's good i i love talking about this and we could do 100 episodes on this

00:49:01.880 um one so much of many pieces of our lore and we talked about this when brandy and i discussed

00:49:12.540 beowulf but holoculture was so essential because it's a microcosm of our society and it transcends

00:49:19.820 time and place this was you know me and a group of 10 people in 20 i don't know 2019

00:49:28.640 at a mexican restaurant so it's really transcends location social dynamics

00:49:37.040 they they change a little bit here and there but there's a lot of truths that build them up

00:49:42.340 that is essential to house the truth because fundamentally and the have them all does this

00:49:46.700 really well it illustrates the need for a strong individual but also

00:49:57.120 the context of that individual in his community because both of those are essential

00:50:04.280 and it's very easy to get unbalanced but i'll choose not all about the individual in your

00:50:10.600 own personal little journey it's about you becoming the best version of yourself you can be

00:50:16.540 but it's about how you interface with your community because of that and uh not only 0.99

00:50:25.380 You don't want to look like a fool when you go to a dinner party, but we all bond and become stronger as a group by noting that you are being a fool and by sharing and pointing that out. 0.98

00:50:43.880 it's a very real social dynamic amongst people is uh bonding through you know making fun of 0.98

00:50:53.680 somebody who shows themselves to uh be pompous or full of themselves or behave badly socially

00:50:59.740 and so that's certainly something to be extremely aware of as well well and you you mentioned mead

00:51:07.900 culture i wanted to again you you you were the one that had kind of led me towards this book

00:51:13.260 the mead hall and i think it's really important that uh you know it's mentioned um because of

00:51:20.920 what you just said about the mead of the of hall culture um and its importance amongst all the

00:51:27.540 branches of teutonic aryans whether they were germans or anglos and or nords or even in the east

00:51:34.980 it was um you can still see it in a lot of the the the descriptions and the writings and things

00:51:42.000 that they have mentioned and lasting even well into you know christian period if you will

00:51:48.100 um let me see because i know we that was good i'm sorry the whitney houston thing killed me

00:51:58.880 Um, let's see. So, yeah, we're going back and we're on stanza six now. Um, and, uh,

00:52:10.600 we go here with, uh, a man shall not boast of his keenness of mind, but keep it close to his

00:52:19.280 breast to the silent and wise does ill come seldom when he goes as a guest to a house.

00:52:28.880 for a faster friend no or one never finds than wisdom tried and true so right here i mean this

00:52:37.760 is i i love this translation because it it it's not about translating old norse and its context

00:52:46.240 as it is more so giving the essence of the of the truth of this stanza to people you you uh you have

00:52:55.440 to make it digestible and you have to make the wisdom wisdom's useless if it's so archaic that

00:53:01.280 you can't quite grasp what's going on and so this one is really good don't be over boastful just like

00:53:07.840 you said um with the guest kind of pumping and preening there there is a level of confidence

00:53:15.200 is good but when you're in a multiple um group exchange you know sometimes you have to have

00:53:23.680 that wisdom to know confidence to know who you are but the wisdom enough to know that you should

00:53:29.760 sit and listen to the others kind of figure out where they are at judge them since what they're

00:53:36.560 presenting how they're talking and what they're doing it gives you an a better sense and it's

00:53:43.520 not limiting yourself as it is you know not revealing everything you need to reveal you

00:53:50.480 might have a great keenness of mind about certain things but you might not about other things

00:53:57.360 and so it's good you know perhaps an opportunity of your of your speciality will show up and then

00:54:05.520 uh a chance where maybe you have a gap someone else um will will bridge it and then you you

00:54:13.600 might seek you know an alliance with that person or build a friendship with that person or what

00:54:19.120 have you so this is this is really this stanza is talking about the idea that you don't need to go

00:54:25.840 out spill your guts you don't need to go out and tell everyone uh either naively or um overly

00:54:34.400 confident um braggishly so but you know in a foolish sense and um you know it's from there

00:54:45.680 you know you when you go to someone's house the wisdom that you learn and i think that's what

00:54:50.600 really ultimately the end is what it's talking about is the wisdom that you gain as you travel

00:54:56.220 this is a reiteration of it you should know if you're a well-traveled person you don't let all

00:55:01.660 the all of the the um words fly sit relax enjoy each other's company slowly begin to learn who

00:55:10.440 people are, learn their words, learn where they stand, make your assessments of them and, um,

00:55:16.180 and allow them to have a controlled assessment. And I think that's another big thing about the

00:55:23.520 Hava Mall at this point is you're as the guest are controlling the assessment of, of how people

00:55:29.620 judge you. There are, there are things that people will judge you that you have no control over,

00:55:34.720 but there are other things that you have very much. So it's not a victim mindset at all. It's

00:55:39.280 the exact opposite. You have control of how people assess you. And it's important for you to

00:55:45.180 be mindful of that control. And that goes all the way from drinking too much to speaking too much to

00:55:53.680 being inappropriate in any way, shape or form. It's so good. It's like a hammer down right in

00:56:03.700 the, right in, right in the first 10 stanzas. The knowing guest who goes to the feast in silent

00:56:13.580 attention sits with ears. He hears with eyes. He watches thus wary are wise men all. And again,

00:56:22.920 that just kind of reemphasize what I just said was, is, is there is no better wisdom than,

00:56:28.840 than patience. There's no better wisdom than to have the ability to kind of sit back,

00:56:36.120 control what you can control, which is yourself and assess what other people are doing. Some

00:56:42.700 people are going to turn the faucet on and let it all out. And you can know that about that person

00:56:47.800 and other people might shy off or, or hide even or linger on the, in the, in the shadows and

00:56:55.320 corners of the hall you begin to see things and this i love the the painting of this of this is

00:57:02.280 that it's that cultural tag is you're in the the thick of it right now we are all we're in the hall

00:57:10.020 and we're weaving weird together and uh you might see a tapestry of people but you should be the

00:57:17.120 person that sits back listens and and and learns doesn't you don't have to scorn anything there's

00:57:25.060 actually a stanza about that when we talk about the silent scorners, the ones that kind of are

00:57:30.600 cynics and venomous in their minds, but we'll get to that. So in stanza eight, happy the one who

00:57:40.580 wins for himself favor and praise is fair. Less safe by far is the wisdom found that is hid in

00:57:48.480 another's heart. Actually, we'll start right now about silent cynicism. But there's more emphasis

00:57:55.860 later. Yeah, if you win, you're renowned fairly by your kindness, your goodliness of speech,

00:58:09.120 your ability to not being an overbearing uh you know boil on the face of all of this um and you

00:58:20.640 end up being quite pleasant you will build fair renown and it's and it's given to you fairly it's

00:58:26.180 given to you based off of how you control and measure out who you are you're not necessarily

00:58:31.040 having to air everything deeply about yourself but it's also good to you know act good act nice

00:58:38.900 and um you know the the reason for this is that you never know the assessments and judgments of

00:58:47.460 others can change based off of your either overly controlling and just kind of shutting down or

00:58:54.220 hiding or your overtness of just letting it all out people are listening to you and you never know

00:59:01.520 what you might say that causes an offense. And it's best to not dive into topics and be so brash

00:59:10.140 to the point that, uh, you know, you're, you're, you're making unnecessary enemies and that's a

00:59:17.360 less fit, less safe by far is the wisdom found that is hid in another's heart. And that I think

00:59:24.000 is kind of what the illusion of that or alluding to that is is um if somebody has wisdom they're

00:59:33.200 keeping quiet they're listening to you and you're going off and saying something about someone and

00:59:38.020 then it turns out they're a family member and you just didn't know and you know that they have

00:59:45.060 learned and you have let the cat out of the bag if you will so so this this is as good as time as

00:59:52.200 any to just make the point of reputation as currency i've already said that you know it

01:00:00.880 matters a ton what other people think of you um the the notion that you know i don't care what

01:00:07.420 other people think about me and you know only god can judge me or whatever no first the gods

01:00:16.140 certainly can judge you and do, but your peers judge you. We judge each other to pretend that

01:00:23.760 we don't is deluding yourself and it's not to your benefit. Reputation matters. And when I say

01:00:33.840 that, I don't just mean popularity, but in general, there's all kinds of reputation preceding you that

01:00:40.700 helps and if you've built a good reputation a strong reputation then that's an armor and a

01:00:48.780 defense against you know when you fall short in these things if you do make a faux pas or you slip

01:00:55.340 up or you you're not perfect on it if you've won renown for yourself and other people around when

01:01:02.540 the gossip happens behind your back like no i know that dude he's you know that's the wrong dude to

01:01:07.180 mess with or no i know that guy he's the nicest guy i've ever known you just caught him at a bad

01:01:12.460 time reputation will smooth over a lot of things and again it's not just popularity in the sense

01:01:20.940 that people like you or you're cool it's also known traits that you have or that you don't have

01:01:28.540 it's a history of behavior and a history of action when you come into a new place you have zero of

01:01:34.380 that um so that's again this is a this is a time to reiterate that this is a small fraction of

01:01:44.300 that being discussed here a bit well and so we move to uh stanza number nine and again there

01:01:55.660 i think we can roll through these some pretty fast um because they are again re-emphasizing the

01:02:01.580 points, but happy is the man who has while he lives wisdom and praise as well. For evil counsel

01:02:11.460 a man full off has from another's heart. So we had kind of made mention of

01:02:20.500 the usage of like two lines. And so if you're looking at these stanzas as

01:02:32.260 sections of four, the first two lines, happy is the man who has while he lives wisdom and praise

01:02:43.860 as well. That is, again, reemphasizing that one can find a great amount of renown or peace or

01:02:53.880 alliance or frith or happiness or just a general good sense within your community if you are a

01:02:59.600 balance of good manners and reservation and thoughtfulness. I think that's a big thing.

01:03:08.040 thinking before you speak, speaking to others with, you know, a sense of civility is so important

01:03:18.720 that it cannot stop you from gaining gravity within the community. But the second part for

01:03:26.640 evil counsel a man full oft has from another's heart is this is a warning, a boating sense that

01:03:35.600 oftentimes others do not have your best intentions at heart this could be seen as

01:03:43.760 a warning towards i mean clearly you know bad evil and and maliciousness is out there it could

01:03:52.400 also be just kind of again is you don't know what you're dealing with you don't know who you're

01:03:56.560 dealing with and who are you and your closest kinfolk are the ones that have perhaps your best

01:04:02.640 interest at heart, you should proceed in the world with caution. I think many people have

01:04:09.880 felt this way when they get betrayed by someone who kind of patronizes them or leads them into

01:04:15.500 a situation and then suddenly kind of pulls the rug out from under someone. That kind of level of

01:04:23.000 of um falsity it's somebody should not be able to call you brother so easily that's a big problem

01:04:32.760 i think culturally that we have right now because of our our desperation to unite and get together

01:04:38.040 and start to kind of reignite the faith and build community and do all of these things

01:04:45.080 but sometimes it's it's too loose people will say hey brother and it's like i don't know you that

01:04:51.960 well and perhaps you know we we should get to know each other better before we start you know

01:04:57.880 saying such things i had a very similar incident happen um for myself with uh uh you know a former

01:05:06.280 member who called me his brother and spoke very loosely of his affiliations with me and then about

01:05:13.400 to embark on something that was really important for everyone i was kind of left holding the bag

01:05:19.720 and it's like that's not how you treat someone you would call their brother your brother so

01:05:27.880 you know you you should your wisdom and kind of in this situation is again i think he's alluding

01:05:33.160 to you know your ability to keep silence keep your wits moving forward and you never know

01:05:41.720 what other people are constituting i would say not just evil but even cowardice can can plague

01:05:47.480 people and you never quite know so you should move things slowly and build

01:05:51.860 friendships over long periods of time let's see so it's worth throwing in you

01:06:03.980 know Ronald Reagan's advice trust but verify like there's a social thing if

01:06:13.640 If people are trying to tell you things like that,

01:06:17.220 okay, for example, Svon's example

01:06:18.920 of people calling you brother, that's nice.

01:06:22.600 It is a nice gesture, it is a nice thing,

01:06:28.300 but take that, smile, appreciate it, nod,

01:06:33.220 whatever you're going to do,

01:06:34.500 but file it away as something to be tested.

01:06:37.600 When I say tested, to watch for situations

01:06:40.800 where that's put to the test,

01:06:42.240 don't mean to intentionally put that to the test i think that's a a misuse of it's a bad repaying

01:06:48.880 of a kindness but don't take things at face value think on them and run them through the filter of

01:06:58.320 your wisdom that's why it talks about you know that wisdom being so valuable is it gives you a

01:07:06.480 context and a uh a frame of reference rather than having to just trust what people tell you

01:07:14.000 because often there's duplicity there

01:07:25.520 um for those that don't know i've been uh i'm getting back from a very long flu um which was

01:07:34.960 kind of ridiculous. But I was going to read this stanza and I wanted, I was wondering if you could

01:07:41.840 take kind of an insight on it so that I could run and take care of my situation as far as

01:07:48.640 getting some tissues and things. I didn't want to do that on screen, but I also wanted to grab

01:07:55.700 a thing of um cough drops as well um it stands at 10 and this one is i think one that's quoted

01:08:05.980 often i think it deserves to be quoted often and i definitely think it it holds a

01:08:12.300 presence of wisdom that's broader than just simply its words um it's fun i got this um when

01:08:21.000 your cartoon character leaves and your face returns i will i will hand it off to you but i

01:08:27.320 i got it from here okay i'll be right you're good no worries well stanza 10.

01:08:34.120 a better burden may no man bear for wanderings wide in wisdom it is better than wealth

01:08:43.000 on unknown ways and in grief a refuge it gives

01:08:51.000 Again, that is building on what's been said four times or so, so far.

01:09:01.180 Wisdom is, and this is true in life in general,

01:09:06.720 and I think it's very relevant when you talk about advice to the traveler.

01:09:13.620 Wealth can come and go.

01:09:16.800 Wealth can be stolen.

01:09:18.000 um you know your currency may not work in that part of the world it's situational other tools

01:09:26.240 are situational wisdom isn't wisdom can be applied in any different situation wisdom stays with you

01:09:35.000 you have wisdom and you don't lose it unless very unforeseen things happen you know brain damage

01:09:43.240 or that's one of the reasons that dementia in old age is such a terrible thing,

01:09:50.600 because it robs you of experience.

01:09:54.620 But yeah, the experience that you have that goes with you,

01:09:58.780 that can provide you internal counsel rather than having to rely on the things that others say,

01:10:05.940 say. That guiding light of things that you know to be true through experience and through

01:10:14.720 well-gained wisdom is essential and extremely valuable. Stanza 11 reads,

01:10:21.380 A better burden may no man bear for wanderings wide than wisdom. Worse food for the journey

01:10:30.960 He brings not a field, then an over-drinking of ale.

01:10:41.300 Looks like Svan has returned, but I think this and the following stanza,

01:10:48.960 it's very important to balance it within the context of the war.

01:11:02.200 The idea here is a person who is traveling outside of an environment that they know.

01:11:07.640 And I think this is wisdom that all of us know fundamentally, but it's worth reiterating.

01:11:13.820 don't get drunk in company that you don't know where you don't know where you're at especially

01:11:23.040 if you're not there with people you know if you have somebody to help look after you that's one

01:11:29.640 thing but if you become drunk you become a burden to whoever's there so make sure they're game to

01:11:35.900 watch your back if that's the case because you make yourself less capable of having the situational

01:11:43.260 awareness we've talked about this whole time and this is something that i think is is valuable to

01:11:48.140 mention because we it is a very common thing for many of us to do to get a little liquid courage

01:11:58.460 in you you go someplace you have a social anxiety you're not comfortable you you don't know what to

01:12:04.860 do in order to make yourself more comfortable you have a few drinks there is a certain amount

01:12:13.260 of wisdom in that it does that the same mechanism it uses to lower your inhibitions to approach

01:12:23.180 people or to be social is the exact same mechanism that it makes you less capable of

01:12:31.420 being aware of your surroundings um so keep those things in mind we've there's plenty of context in

01:12:39.580 our war where drinking is appropriate amongst friends amongst family in a safe place to where

01:12:44.780 you're around people that you have trust with um drinking ritually even drinking socially in a

01:12:52.620 place where you have people to look after you and be comfortable but we've seen this a lot and i

01:12:58.140 I mean, this is very valuable for men, but I'll say this specifically for ladies.

01:13:03.440 And I've seen this, having worked in the bar industry lots and lots of times, 0.98

01:13:07.680 but the girls will go out together and say they're going to watch somebody. 0.99

01:13:13.000 They'll let their friend get trashed, and then they'll find a guy they're talking to and run off. 0.99

01:13:19.840 And next thing you know, this woman's there by herself and doesn't have her full wits with her,

01:13:24.300 and it's a very dangerous situation.

01:13:25.860 So, yeah, that's a really important thing to keep in mind, and it's just as valuable in 2024 as it was in, you know, 924.

01:13:39.880 well you know a better burden no man bears um than his wisdom but you know a heavy burden is

01:13:51.560 the over drinking and i think that that goes to say that it kind of alluding back to

01:13:58.360 the open open with words open with emotions open with too much to the point where um

01:14:05.400 yeah you become you become your merit drops because kind of exude too much um and there's

01:14:14.760 another kind of point that is exuded throughout the halvamal is wisdom through experience not

01:14:21.620 edicts or commandments without any sense of knowing there is an entirety of the poem exudes

01:14:31.700 that the wisdom that's being given is given either because it's been witnessed or experienced

01:14:37.740 over and over and over again. So it's never kind of, it's not two dimensional, if you think about

01:14:44.620 it. And just as you applied it in that sense, it's because again, from experience, each one

01:14:51.660 of these stanzas, I think, kind of has that key to, have you experienced this before? Or, you

01:14:58.740 know, again, with the hobble mall, I, um, I'll go back and read it and, and just like, oh, why did

01:15:05.240 I not, if I could have just had a pop in my head. Before we hit stanza 12, we have a monetized

01:15:15.320 question from Michael Cosgrove at $20. Thank you so much, Michael. We appreciate that. Uh, does the

01:15:22.280 Does AFA have a set doctrine slash translation

01:15:26.340 of reading materials for the folk?

01:15:28.380 And if not, could we possibly will this into existence?

01:15:36.180 Sort of and sort of.

01:15:41.380 As far as set translation,

01:15:43.960 we've talked about that a little bit.

01:15:46.300 There are lots of good translations. There's lots of ones that we would recommend. I don't think we have one that we are standardized on. One of the reasons is a big factor is public domain or not as far as our ability to reprint it and reuse it and people's accessibility to it.

01:16:09.660 So we wouldn't want to prioritize something that's easier to use in a public domain, but less, you know, less accurate or less spiritually valuable.

01:16:23.480 There's strengths and benefits to lots of the different translations.

01:16:27.340 And we may have a few that we shy away from, but that would be different depending on every piece of literature.

01:16:33.220 The problem is there's not an exact corpus of literature that's, you know, canon versus literature that's not.

01:16:42.520 As far as recommended readings and recommended literature as part of our lore, we already have a good list on that.

01:16:50.160 And I would say get with Witten Brandy on that and she can get you squared away with that reading list.

01:16:54.880 yes we'd like to formalize that a little bit more on specific things that we

01:17:02.160 endorse as being very very useful for study um but yeah that's a that's a good suggestion

01:17:10.420 the best i would say to get a reading list of the lore that we think is essential or

01:17:15.760 certainly very valuable i think brandy's got that list but i know that we've been working on that

01:17:21.860 behind the scenes. And with that, Svon,

01:17:25.860 could you take us through stanza 12?

01:17:29.340 Yes.

01:17:31.720 Less good there lies than most believe

01:17:34.740 in ale for mortal men.

01:17:37.840 For the more he drinks, the less does

01:17:42.000 man of his mind

01:17:45.440 the mastery hold.

01:17:47.480 so yeah this is a you know oftentimes i've heard it is you know good it is thought but good it is

01:17:56.080 not uh you know ale or mead for the for the sons of men um again there's this emphasis on

01:18:05.580 it's not about i would say it's not about um abstinence as it is about

01:18:12.340 measurement and control of oneself or what one's one divulges and that need has a tendency

01:18:20.380 to make that not as an easy task for a wise person who travels but you emphasize it as well

01:18:28.180 it's about who you trust drinking around the folk you trust often leads towards um and and being in

01:18:37.020 in a, in a home or, or, or what have you, it's still not good to over drink, um, to the point

01:18:42.380 of, you know, uh, ashamedness towards your, your family members that could, that could cause a

01:18:47.580 whole nother bucket of problems. But the context I think here too is, is again, you're, you're

01:18:53.060 around people who perhaps you don't know, and you're in an environment that you might not fully

01:18:57.420 understand or can't fully assess. So it's best that you don't imbibe in a liquid that's going

01:19:03.440 to make it harder for you to do all of those things and there's irresponsibility of just

01:19:11.480 you having too much are you overdoing it but there's also and this cuts both ways depending

01:19:21.140 on who, who you are and what your purposes are. But inflicting alcohol on someone is a powerful

01:19:33.580 tool. It's a tool to get their defenses down. It's a tool that makes them easier to take

01:19:39.680 advantage of. Um, it's a tool that makes them easier for you to get honesty from and come,

01:19:53.480 you know, complete honesty or oversharing may not be what you want to do. So be, be wise that

01:20:01.380 when you're out in a strange place with strange people, maybe they're consistently trying to get

01:20:07.740 you to take shots with them is so that you are more susceptible to wherever they want to go with

01:20:15.880 you. Be that to divulge information that you wouldn't otherwise, be that to put you in a

01:20:22.000 situation you don't want to be in, be that to take advantage of you, you know, sexually or otherwise.

01:20:29.400 Again, it's a whole lot about context.

01:20:37.740 uh this next one always throws people off and i i it's i i feel that this the summation or the

01:20:48.080 perhaps the theory that is best i'll i'll share it but it always throws people off because

01:20:52.920 over over the beer bird uh over beer the bird of forgetfulness broods um

01:21:00.640 the that oftentimes translated to is the heron of forgetfulness or the heron of oblivion i've heard

01:21:10.120 i've seen that translation too that was pretty crazy um but what they're speaking of is most

01:21:17.520 likely a context towards a drinking device that was utilized in the halls at the time

01:21:26.660 generally there was a larger uh place where the mead or the beer or the ale was kept and it had

01:21:34.300 to be transferred from that large vessel into smaller vessels and then oftentimes from that

01:21:39.220 smaller vessel into a cup uh our ancestors did you know a lot the horns are are very culturally

01:21:45.780 connected to us now but our ancestors did use you know chalices and goblets and mead cups and

01:21:53.320 mead bowls and things like that. But they would transfer that mead from that vessel. And oftentimes

01:22:01.380 what it would be is the handle would be carved like a bird or the handle would be carved like

01:22:08.500 a heron. And so this is a poetic reference to the ladles of these meads just flying out over the

01:22:15.820 tables where, where, uh, ladies or hosts or, um, you know, folk that were kind of, uh, serving and

01:22:23.660 dispensing the mead that was brewed, they would do it with these ladles that had bird heads on the

01:22:29.280 ends. And they were usually shaped that way to hang in the vessel. So you would see all of these

01:22:34.360 little kind of birds on the edge of the cauldron or the edge of the barrel, and then they would

01:22:39.160 lift it up and they would ladle everything out. And it was important, um, to kind of understand

01:22:45.580 the reference of this is like the the bird the herons of forgetfulness is just again a poetic

01:22:52.580 kenning saying you know these these uh it's kind of like saying like the the taps were were hit or

01:22:59.640 uh you know the uh the the beer was flowing uh again is that this reference but it it's a ominous

01:23:09.440 because it's it it's flying over the whole host of the of the crowd and with every ladle you get

01:23:16.000 it steals your mind um and again it's referencing uh specifically to the heron because of that

01:23:24.000 shape in its preferred sense uh for the um perhaps even specifically in when this was being written

01:23:32.000 down as a poem the the uh scalds may have been referencing just a particular place not across

01:23:40.560 the board like you could go to sweden you could go to norway or you could go to iceland and there

01:23:44.640 would always be this kind of heron ladle um but it was clearly being mentioned in this referencing

01:23:52.400 that the uh the bird of forgetfulness is is flying over and uh with heron feathers fettered i lay

01:24:00.400 in Gunnloth's house was held. So this is an interesting part too, because there's a kenning

01:24:07.660 in the first part, and then they're alluding to another story, and the story of the mead of poetry

01:24:15.920 gained by Lord Bothan, and his attainment through boring into Suttungur's mountain,

01:24:24.220 and coming in and seeing Gunnloth there and wooing her and drinking the mead of poetry,

01:24:33.980 the blood of Kvasir. But it wasn't the only thing he probably drank while he was there.

01:24:41.320 It was the ultimate goal was to gain that power. And that, of course, power is very allegoric for

01:24:47.340 much more cosmic things. But in this sense of the story, he imbibes in the mead and is caught

01:24:56.160 in the moment. And instead of just simply taking the blood of Kvasir, he stops and he 0.67

01:25:02.720 talks to Gunnloth. Gunnloth, of course, her name means battle song. And, you know,

01:25:11.200 from their union if you will poetry is born and there's a lot of greatness in that story but um

01:25:22.640 the uh the overall sense is that you know he he could have easily just came in and got what he

01:25:28.400 he needed done but he didn't he stayed and he was fettered in this moment and uh you know got uh

01:25:38.400 kind of connected and almost killed because the story that they're referencing is that again

01:25:43.640 Sutum comes into the mountain and he's like oh gotta go and he turns into an eagle and he flies

01:25:49.400 up through the center of the mountain and Sutum wastes no time and goes right after him and changes

01:25:54.480 shape as well and then a wild chasing starts so again he's like I got I had a mission and I got

01:26:02.680 waylaid from the mission because of the the heron in the mountain that made me stop and

01:26:10.200 and focus on gunloath all of a sudden and focus on

01:26:13.480 the moment there when i should have just grabbed what i needed and left

01:26:25.800 and yeah it's worth throwing this in here now as well um i mentioned this when we did our study of

01:26:32.680 the loose bow there's these stories aren't told chronologically and when getting involved in the

01:26:44.280 study of our lore for anybody who's new or as a reminder to folks that may be you know partway

01:26:51.740 through that journey there's not a clean stopping point or a starting point rather so that said

01:27:00.900 And these frequently stories from other parts of our lore are alluded to in the telling

01:27:11.640 of these stories.

01:27:14.600 Don't fret, we will get to those other stories.

01:27:18.680 Svonne and I are committed to doing that with y'all.

01:27:22.640 But yeah, you'll find when you read these things and they make references to things

01:27:28.740 that you don't understand you know go down the wikipedia rabbit hole on what those different

01:27:34.160 things are if you'd like and rest assured that if you do this diligently you will fill in those

01:27:43.320 blanks over time with an increased familiarity with our lore and it's special when you get that

01:27:50.500 moment where it clicks where all of a sudden you read through it a second time and everything

01:27:54.040 makes sense because now you're familiar in new things you didn't before um i've had that moment

01:27:59.720 happen to me with a lot of different pieces of our lore so uh just keep that in mind as we go

01:28:04.600 through if we hit on stories that we haven't spoke of already or that are not familiar to you

01:28:13.080 well and this this again is another part of this reference here that makes that kind of um

01:28:19.240 very very prevalent is is um the referencing to to fjalla um

01:28:26.200 drunk i was i was dead drunk when with fjalla wise i was tis the best of drinking

01:28:36.600 if back one brings his wisdom with him home so this again makes reference

01:28:42.200 to a story uh and the the problem is is fjallr fjallr is and this is most likely in reference

01:28:52.040 to drinking referring to the dwarf in the story of the need of poetry this has a lot of strength

01:29:01.720 because of the reference to gunloth and is also in the same story um but it is worth noting that

01:29:07.880 there are multiple fial letters but one of them being to the the uh the rooster that crows in

01:29:14.600 ragnarok and um that doesn't necessarily hold to why would he be drinking with a with a with a rooster

01:29:23.960 um but again it's i know that some people have suggested that there might not be a full

01:29:29.480 understanding but i i definitely believe this is referencing to the dwarf and i think that

01:29:34.760 it's interesting that yeah he's it's this drinking with the dwarf um and finding out

01:29:43.240 because a part of the investigation of the story was that more than needed to find out where

01:29:47.880 crosser's blood went and so it was a kind of a an investigation and that i think is what there

01:29:56.920 is is referencing is that time in which he was looking for where crosser's blood went

01:30:01.320 and he was quite literally talking to one of the murderers um but the reference of that in

01:30:07.800 other stories based on if the dwarves are killed by sutung or not kind of again creates an

01:30:16.520 inconsistency in the timeline if you're looking from a point a to point b so this is i was gonna

01:30:22.280 to bring up earlier and I spaced it but I'd like to bring up now there are many

01:30:37.280 occasions in life in our lore and you know recreationally or anything else

01:30:47.720 where there are intoxicants and that can be external and chemical with different

01:30:58.720 you know substances with alcohol with drugs with a variety of things but it

01:31:08.480 can also be with ecstasy with lust with anger with with anything any force that

01:31:18.200 overrides your ability to make rational decisions but and I don't know if I'm

01:31:31.280 i'm phrasing this right odin is a god of ecstatic fury he's a god of in a way certain kinds of

01:31:41.520 intoxicants um but his name implies uh rodanas implies mastery of the woad not one who is

01:31:54.560 mastered by the load and the difference is very fundamental and has meant a lot to me over time

01:32:05.280 the ability to partake of ecstasy to partake of things that that put you in a in an ecstatic state

01:32:15.040 while maintaining your will while maintaining your mastery of yourself and as you know most of us

01:32:24.640 know as adults we've had occasion to find out sometimes you know in difficult or embarrassing

01:32:30.720 ways that's a that's a fine line to walk and i think that's a fundamental to understanding this

01:32:37.040 part of uh of the stanza or these stanzas in this poem um also and i mean again it's

01:32:47.280 extremely relevant to this day and age you know there's time that you have the best night of your

01:32:53.040 life out drinking with your friends and you know everybody gets a little loose and has a great time

01:32:58.640 that's amazing and you can remember it for the rest of your life and it's wonderful but i think

01:33:04.560 many of us have had the experience if you go a little bit too far and you black out

01:33:08.320 you don't remember stuff and don't know what happened and everything was a mess and you're

01:33:13.520 told you had a good time but you retain none of the uh none of the memory of it and none of the

01:33:21.600 the lasting value of the occasion and i think that's you know something we can all relate to

01:33:27.680 in the uh in the latter part of this

01:33:30.160 yeah it is the best of drinking if you if one brings back his wisdom with him home

01:33:39.420 the uh the retention of your wits and your bearing your ability to not have to wake up

01:33:46.760 and not understand or again your wits were gone and they show up apparently right before you wake

01:33:54.300 up and um that that's a terrible thing um i you know i think that uh for myself you know in the

01:34:03.420 marine corps there is a drinking culture there's a drinking culture in the u.s military and there's

01:34:08.480 a drinking culture in the marine corps and um i've had experiences with this so much so that you

01:34:15.880 know i perhaps when i was younger it was funny or kind of relatively no harm but you know as you

01:34:23.020 grow older, you begin to realize that the value of the wisdom is far greater and your wits are

01:34:29.260 far greater than your need to imbibe or to vibe over much to the point where you're at a loss.

01:34:37.540 And I think that not only is it just a part of growing up, but it's also a point where I think

01:34:42.300 if someone is having a substance abuse problem, they need to harness in on it. Not everyone does.

01:34:49.400 and that's another thing is you can't you're not trying to uh edict other people you have to

01:34:57.080 control yourself and that's what a lot of this is all about and so you know taking that if you're

01:35:02.920 having these moments where you're witless when you come home perhaps it's time to consider that maybe

01:35:11.400 staying away from it or you know a very small amount is talking about uh alcohol i think this

01:35:18.840 is important to make note of um with a lot of things this is a part of having your wits with

01:35:29.800 you and being a master of the load as well when you have a bad experience you don't get to project

01:35:40.520 that upon others in your abstinence maybe you should not drink your inability to handle

01:35:48.760 your liquor doesn't mean that the next man over shouldn't drink either we don't believe in

01:35:55.000 equality it's not a thing everybody has their own different strengths and weaknesses so it's very

01:36:00.280 easy when somebody maybe struggles with alcoholism and has overcome it for them to be straight edge

01:36:06.200 and you know insist that nobody else drinks because of their experience and that's not the

01:36:12.440 case and we need to be really careful about doing that and you know at no point are we suggesting

01:36:19.240 don't drink i think this is the first night i'm drinking monsters tonight i think this is the

01:36:23.000 first night i haven't been drinking something alcoholic that i've done this show in quite a

01:36:28.520 while just because it's fun not because of anything else you know it's kind of the one night of the

01:36:33.640 week that i drink something because i'm sitting here talking with you guys and it's it's kind of

01:36:37.320 a celebration for me in a way uh but i time got the better of me and i couldn't stop by and grab

01:36:42.840 anything today but no no part of anything we're saying is don't drink and we're not even saying

01:36:47.880 don't get don't get a little bit buzzed with your friends but be uh be aware be aware of

01:36:54.120 your circumstances and be aware whether you're around friend or foe good night baby

01:36:59.560 i love you i love you too

01:37:05.480 oh you got two two all right

01:37:14.040 anyway sorry about that no i i think it's really important just to kind of

01:37:21.260 link on to what you're saying and people that might not know like i a lot of people don't know

01:37:27.040 that I don't drink. I stopped drinking. I was drinking quite heavily after I got out of the

01:37:34.500 military and it consistently caused problems for me. And it took a long time for me to realize

01:37:40.980 that. It took me a long time to actually ingest the wisdom of the Havamal. But it is important

01:37:47.940 that, you know, I set boundaries for myself. I only drink in communion with the gods and with

01:37:55.620 my folk at sumble and i am not i was very very clear to make sure that if people said why is

01:38:03.220 this guy bloating like four or five five you know holding bloat four or five times a day

01:38:07.780 man he wants to stumble every time we meet that's really odd um it but it set a parameter that i i

01:38:15.060 should keep it in the sacred realm i do miss out on uh being able to um be open and and have those

01:38:23.140 moments with uh very close people in you know in in the church and friends of mine and i do feel

01:38:29.780 there is that sense of reservation but again sometimes you have to say to yourselves like

01:38:36.100 yes i would love to be open and happy with all these people but sometimes that also leads down

01:38:41.300 roads i don't need to go and so perhaps it is best i only a little bit and that's why i did it was

01:38:48.340 to not spurn the horn but i needed to not go down those roads and that led towards you know again

01:38:55.700 counseling and healing myself of of perhaps ideas and thoughts that were plaguing me when uh you

01:39:04.340 know when your defenses kind of go down and your inhibitions go down and so it wasn't necessarily

01:39:09.220 the alcohol that was i think was the problem was the unresolved issues so what i was doing was

01:39:16.740 inhibiting a problem um because of a bigger problem and i'm sorry i'm sorry go ahead please

01:39:25.940 oh i was going to say that bigger problem needed to be addressed with a clear and wise mind it

01:39:32.180 wasn't necessarily the the uh alcohol as i think it could have been almost anything that

01:39:39.700 could have filled that uh i guess purpose um and it was a continuous thing and i think like it made 0.98

01:39:45.860 a lot of i made a lot of stupid decisions and did a lot of stupid things in the military outside of 0.88

01:39:51.060 the military but over time it was like no this is just a something that's becoming a caveat for a 0.99

01:39:58.900 bigger problem so i had to master that just to slay that so that i could truly begin to address

01:40:06.500 the issues i had from my past with the war and with other things to come to peace and make you

01:40:12.500 know again to to seek counsel with the gods pray to them and i gained much wisdom from it and i i

01:40:19.140 i feel that that that is a good thing for people who might be in a similar position

01:40:23.300 but it is by no means for everyone and it's not necessarily something i would say we're uh you

01:40:29.860 know uh you know bandwidth or you know teetotaling is the word i was looking for um but i have

01:40:37.620 noticed that amongst the afa and amongst our folk i can adhere to my oath and i get support instead

01:40:47.700 of derision i find in our church that there are people who do like to drink that's fine um but

01:40:55.140 there are a lot of people who are very very well disciplined the the um the fabric of of the folk

01:41:02.980 in the afa and their ability to um quietly enjoy a drink and be good and and have a great time and

01:41:12.260 never have to you know regret the morning is so vast like every event i've ever been to it was

01:41:19.780 it was very uh pun pun intended it was very sobering you know well and and this is something

01:41:27.140 to point out one of the most valuable things the wisdom that this talks about about traveling

01:41:32.820 Certainly, but also the wisdom of knowing yourself, knowing your strength, knowing your weaknesses and knowing what's good for you may not be the same thing that's good for others.

01:41:48.180 And the inverse, what's good for others may not be the same thing that's good for you.

01:41:52.720 that goes into play as well and this is a because again this goes against the

01:42:00.820 common belief of the wolf age that we're in but in the afa we try

01:42:08.860 and we're all affected by wolf age thinking one you know equality and such

01:42:18.360 even if we don't recognize it so i have to frequently remind our folks to pull back from we

01:42:24.880 don't we don't like to make big sweeping rules for everyone on these things we want people to

01:42:34.080 be responsible for their own behavior so if a person is can't handle their drinking at an afa

01:42:42.340 been we don't ask everyone not to drink we ask that person not to drink so it's important to

01:42:50.900 realize where your strengths and weaknesses lie and i think that's fundamental to everything but

01:42:57.060 it comes into a really specific lens when we talk about alcohol all right and the next uh

01:43:06.500 the next stanza is one of my favorites yes the the prince the stanza the son of a king

01:43:16.500 shall be silent and wise and bold in battle as well bravely and gladly a man shall go

01:43:24.900 until the day of his death is is come or has come i think that's a typo um

01:43:32.340 yes, it seems to be a typo. There's a couple of little typos in there. To the day of his death

01:43:40.240 has come. And yeah, this is so good. One, I mean, the prince, and what they're clearly saying is

01:43:51.620 The aristocratic virtues are that you should try to raise your son to be silent and wise and listen, but also bold in battle.

01:44:06.760 Not a coward, not someone who is simply a fly on the wall or kind of amassing information in order to mudsling later or what have you.

01:44:16.620 No, he's quiet, he's listening, he's learning.

01:44:19.860 but when it comes time, he must be, you know, very upright, forthright, willing to place that

01:44:28.000 burden of aristocracy upon. And that comes not from the nature of the child himself. It's again,

01:44:37.100 the son of a king. It's kind of alluding to, remember, the source is the king. The king should

01:44:44.740 embark upon you know teaching the child making the child know that these virtues are worth

01:44:52.340 so much in our society and should be and so again the the the attack on masculinity is

01:44:59.320 is um can be kind of a tongue-in-cheek thing or an indie like a internet kind of um

01:45:05.300 you know uh jokes or memes or what have you but it does really root down into some

01:45:11.700 truly deep spiritual concepts of our culture. And this last part is, again, applying to that

01:45:19.960 king, but again, the noble behavior is that you shouldn't go forth in your life with fear.

01:45:27.060 Your death, you should be happy and bold and brave and forward until your time comes.

01:45:34.560 there's no reason and i think this is a huge thing that um really captured it was captured in um

01:45:42.540 i hate to use like fan fiction but this one really did i think it worked um in the movie um

01:45:50.480 the 13th warrior not and michael crichton and the eaters of the dead and all that

01:45:56.680 not gonna try to go into that but the idea was during the movie they were laughing

01:46:01.100 when the storms were coming, when the waves were going up and down, they continuously

01:46:08.740 reemphasized this stanza in that movie when they were even picking up their dead comrades.

01:46:16.360 They were still kind of making jokes. I think a lot of people in the movie do this as well.

01:46:22.820 And for people who were never in the military or perhaps but were in a different thing like

01:46:27.600 sports or, you know, police or firemen or something where there's like this unit based kind of

01:46:33.880 mentality, you'll find this kind of dark and often biting and funny humor that is accompanied with

01:46:42.200 people that are kind of putting their lives on the line sometimes or with the possibility of

01:46:46.200 getting greatly hurt. And they do it kind of chuckling. And some people would say, oh, that's

01:46:52.120 just the way they're dealing with their fear. But in a lot of ways, after a while, no, you end up

01:46:57.200 kind of becoming, it becomes all kind of funny in a way. And I don't know if that's not necessarily

01:47:07.480 like an absurd thing, because there is a honed humor to it that kind of finds a grittiness in

01:47:14.280 some of the worst situations. I think this is a noble trait, and I think it's also very much

01:47:19.160 a Teutonic Aryan trait of being kind of a counterbalance 0.98

01:47:24.060 between ultra serious and also laughing 0.90

01:47:27.900 at oddly dire situations.

01:47:37.420 All right, so we're moving to stanza 15, or stanza 16.

01:47:43.380 Yeah, and before we do, I just, this is one of those

01:47:47.880 instances, I think sometimes a question goes in when I talk about nobility and when I

01:47:57.840 speak about why the AFA uses the word Aryan. It's the same root word as aristocracy.

01:48:09.400 The idea of nobility, nobility of bearing, nobility of behavior. This last stanza wasn't

01:48:16.640 like no literally if you are you know the next in line for a throne this is what you do

01:48:24.400 no it was these things are thought to be regal they're thought to be noble for a man to carry

01:48:30.080 himself as a prince for one to carry themselves with thoughtful behavior when at the when at the

01:48:38.800 feasting bench and to also be bold in battle and to be brave and uh you know be glad and

01:48:48.160 have an uplifted spirit up to the very point of his death um that ability to hold your head up

01:48:57.120 stick your chest out and carry yourself with nobility is fundamental to what the word arian

01:49:06.080 exhorts our people to be and to live up to and i think that that is a very important thing to

01:49:13.520 internalize well and this the stanza thereafter is kind of seamless with it because it immediately

01:49:25.120 refers um perhaps not to the silence and the wisdom but again gladly going forth into your fate

01:49:32.400 And knowing that we are, it's been set before us.

01:49:38.880 We know this so clearly.

01:49:41.000 None of us are getting out of this alive.

01:49:43.500 So you move forward and you act at your deeds with that,

01:49:47.940 knowing that you can accomplish much once you kind of lose that anxiety. 1.00

01:49:56.520 The sluggard believes he shall live forever. 1.00

01:49:59.820 I like the word sluggard. 1.00

01:50:01.300 that is not used enough, uh, in this day and age. The sluggard believes he will live forever 1.00

01:50:08.860 if the fight he faces not, but aid shall not grant him the gift of peace, though spears may 0.98

01:50:16.640 spare his life. And this one, I think a lot of people are familiar with, and they may have heard

01:50:20.640 other translations um that are kind of you know more common um uh you know a a coward think a 0.96

01:50:31.120 coward uh sluggard you know thinks he will live forever if he you know askews from a fight or 0.89

01:50:38.320 holds back in battle um but age will not spare him and uh you know he he could the it will or 0.99

01:50:49.120 his time will aches and pains and illness will dog him uh those spears have spared him in a moment

01:50:56.960 so that's kind of a and the only reason i'm bringing that up is because it does make that 1.00

01:51:00.320 good context is that um you know the coward the sluggard thinks that he'll live forever if he

01:51:07.680 doesn't face up in the moment if he doesn't show up to the line if he thinks that he can kind of 0.98

01:51:14.640 askew it um that he's gonna somehow avoid things but in the end it doesn't matter you're gonna get

01:51:24.880 you know age ailment regret all these things more than any of these other things

01:51:33.920 um regret is one of the greatest scourges

01:51:41.040 that can occur to this and um we live in a in a day and age and this is something that

01:51:48.960 we we end up talking about a lot in the world that we live in because we become very comfortable

01:51:55.200 um most of us are not tested on the physical battlefield most of us are tested

01:52:02.720 in much more subtle ways.

01:52:06.280 So the idea of courage,

01:52:09.120 sometimes folks don't put it in a modern context.

01:52:17.480 There's no courage without consequence.

01:52:22.900 Consequence happens,

01:52:24.720 and it's what makes victory and courage valuable.

01:52:27.840 so many of our people are very beaten down and they're scared of their own shadow they're scared

01:52:37.160 of everything they're scared of what possibly one of the biggest things that they're scared of and

01:52:42.760 i think that we all have a tendency of fear is the unknown but we're always constantly worried

01:52:49.180 that uh you know something's out to get us or maybe something bad could happen i got in a

01:52:56.600 you know, discussion with someone on Twitter because I dared talk about how courage was

01:53:02.080 important. And their advice to our folk was to just keep their head down and not say anything

01:53:07.600 and breed. And, and that's our job. And if we, as long as we pass on our genetics to the next

01:53:12.940 generation, then that's good enough. And I have seen few things as flailing and frantic as the

01:53:22.740 coward trying to justify his cowardice because internally we all know better so there's a

01:53:30.520 desperation to like not me because you see it's all part of my secret plan

01:53:35.260 the fact that we feel compelled to do that should tell us that we ought to be courageous in the

01:53:42.340 first place um but yeah it's important they talk about this here and this is directly connected to

01:53:50.340 No, that's how a nobleman, that's how an eighthling, that's how a prince behaves is with courage.

01:53:59.180 yeah i think um it's it's one of those things that we we have seen so often in this battleground

01:54:12.780 that is um the attainment of our ability to practice our ethnic faith unabashed um and

01:54:22.820 you know the a lot of the things that go with that and some things strike true and some things

01:54:29.640 don't and i think people get convoluted but the idea is you know that you do show up and that you

01:54:35.360 this is the thing that gets me the most is is having faith in yourself in the humming of your

01:54:43.360 ancestors and in the gods themselves like a required thing in order to um kind of break

01:54:53.080 through the din of a lot of people's fear that they that they harbor with them in this wolf age

01:54:58.340 is that you you really find these people that are like oh i'm gonna do this for the gods i'm

01:55:04.520 gonna do this for this and i'm gonna and then they again construct a huge framework of why they're

01:55:10.240 suddenly doing something very different uh you know or like what you had said was they will talk

01:55:14.720 about you know i'll fight dragons but they won't do a food drive or place you know or speak openly

01:55:23.840 on a on a a podcast or or on a website it's very telling

01:55:32.160 and we see it often so i think that you know the haba mall is maybe perhaps even more poignant in

01:55:40.900 a lot of things but again applying this to your work applying this to um your home applying this

01:55:47.320 to the military it's so much here um that is you know again amazing um are we we're on stanza 17 0.98

01:55:59.500 let's see the fool is agape when he comes to the feast he stammers or else is still 0.97

01:56:11.240 but soon if he gets a drink is it it is a scene it is it seen what the mind of this man is like 1.00

01:56:21.440 so again there is um you know this this sense the fool is is just loose he is um 0.98

01:56:31.720 he is uh undisciplined unbridled uncouth if you will um and he's he stammers or else is still 0.99

01:56:44.120 so again he he's not he's lost in himself he's lost in his own anxieties he's lost in his own

01:56:50.820 fears he's not confident with himself and then when he gets a drink at him he just lets it loose

01:56:58.260 and i think this is kind of one of those things that we find in our culture today in modern

01:57:03.780 culture where we see um if someone is perhaps um doesn't exhibit a lot of outward confidence or

01:57:11.860 what have you and they get a little you know social lubricant a little liquid courage in them

01:57:16.260 um the the good the good gift of uh through there gets to flow through him and he gets that strength

01:57:24.180 um you know perhaps there's an achievement or a breaking of walls but some people most often they 0.89

01:57:30.540 just they they often bear their ass whether you know figuratively or sometimes literally if they 0.60

01:57:37.060 go too far is that you know and then it really isn't is a testament to how they are when they're 0.99

01:57:44.940 sober. So this stanza really to me is again is that the idea is that you can see people when

01:57:53.160 they're drunk as kind of a facsimile of what they are when they're sober or perhaps all of

01:57:59.200 they exude a great amount of their weaknesses depending on how they act you know after they

01:58:05.160 have lost a lot of inhibitions. I you know I've had the pleasure of sitting down and feasting with

01:58:10.920 many good folk um and you know they they drank quite a bit and but they've always been so either

01:58:20.120 you know adhering to their their mental state perhaps a little bit more joyous a little bit

01:58:24.840 more happy uh a little bit more open but never to the point where they're so loose and so lost

01:58:31.160 that it's just like man i wonder what this you know what this uh guy like lives with when he's

01:58:36.040 quiet and alone

01:58:37.800 and you know

01:58:39.440 what kind of fears and things

01:58:41.980 kind of direct him and they just get

01:58:43.920 all matted out

01:58:46.240 because of you know get a little

01:58:47.820 get a little sip in you

01:58:49.080 I don't know if you had anything

01:58:51.900 on that one as well as your

01:58:53.160 stanza 17

01:58:55.860 no other than

01:58:58.000 it

01:58:58.680 the

01:59:04.280 the inability to have your will control your actions and that doesn't mean not to share of

01:59:14.460 yourself but this talks about accidentally like oh i had a little bit to drink hey and just

01:59:22.860 laying it all out amongst randos unintentionally is different if you are choosing to have a few

01:59:32.340 and you're choosing, all right, this is a good time.

01:59:35.460 We're both drinking a little bit

01:59:36.680 and I want to share deeply of who I am

01:59:39.040 and my inner thoughts to somebody that I trust

01:59:41.940 and we're sharing, by all means, do that.

01:59:44.940 That's beautiful.

01:59:45.780 That's a good thing to do if you're choosing to,

01:59:50.180 but not because you're getting sloppy

01:59:51.820 because you've lost control of your actions.

01:59:55.680 And this applies to a myriad of things,

01:59:59.280 but very specifically here talking about, um, alcohol and you being a guest and a stranger

02:00:06.380 in a strange place, you lose in control of, you know, losing control of stuff. You know,

02:00:14.740 you start over speaking, over sharing, over spending, over eating, over drinking. And

02:00:24.420 And it's, you know, it makes you a very, very compelling target for any number of unpleasant things.

02:00:41.720 Stanza 18.

02:00:43.960 He alone is aware who has wandered wide and far abroad has fared.

02:00:50.940 how great a mind is guided by him the wealth of wisdom has so this is an interesting one i like

02:01:01.300 it seems kind of a benign and perhaps even a re-emphasizing but i like it because it it does

02:01:08.520 make a great point about something that we talked about in another uh victory never sleeps about

02:01:13.520 the soul, the thought and the memory, the idea of memory being a wealth, a treasure trove of

02:01:22.080 things that have taught you through experience. So you think while you are experiencing and you

02:01:29.400 learn from your memory and it becomes a valued thing. And the only way you can do that is if

02:01:34.660 you test yourself, if you go out, if you find that adversity, if you seek the horizons and

02:01:41.640 push yourself towards things that's when you find those experiences and those experiences are the

02:01:47.160 treasure you're giving yourself and that's i really do like this stanza because it's it's so um

02:01:52.720 i don't know it it's a salt of the earth kind of wisdom as um you you know if you travel wide you

02:02:00.720 will gain much in your experiences and no greater treasure do you have than the memories and the

02:02:05.820 lessons you learned by doing that. And I think in our culture, I mean, I know you've traveled all

02:02:14.940 over from the far, far north to the deep, deep south and all those things. I've been very, very

02:02:21.120 fortunate that way. Yeah, I think it's super important that our readers understand that,

02:02:27.780 you know, the culture of our ancestors and the cultures of the Nords at the time was very much

02:02:34.480 built around travel around experiencing things going over that mountain or crossing over that

02:02:41.080 sea um and having the joys of seeing those things and seeing those travels i think a lot of people

02:02:48.680 a lot of our enemies might think that we're some sort of like flyover country bumpkins

02:02:53.280 or something of that and i i laugh at that notion i mean um i don't know i i surprised my son once

02:03:01.520 because i don't think i ever mentioned it to him but we were watching some uh television or perhaps

02:03:06.720 it was um on his school because it was making reference to to mount fuji and i said oh i climbed

02:03:12.560 that and he was like what and so we stopped everything he wanted to hear this story about

02:03:19.840 me climbing mount fuji and i i told him everything it was great i i it's not something i often lead

02:03:26.160 with i don't know if even if i i've ever told you that story i was here really but again it was it

02:03:31.680 was really really a great experience um and so i think that it's a treasure trove for me

02:03:38.400 i don't mind telling my son he thought it was the coolest thing ever and that's kind of cool it made

02:03:43.280 me feel good about that but um it was there was lessons to be learned and it was a very very good

02:03:47.760 experience and i would never would have got it if i had just you know chose to stay home and work in

02:03:54.320 my um you know work in my well it was a factory here um at the time that i was working in and

02:04:02.960 um you know no shame in it you know as an especially if i like now in my age like working to

02:04:10.160 feed your family but i was a young man and the fact if i had kind of you know remained bellied

02:04:16.080 at the bar and stuck in the in the uh the factory i was at i would have never experienced that if i

02:04:22.320 hadn't said you know i got to go out there and just kind of like test these limits test these

02:04:27.280 horizons um you know all before um 9-11 all before that i was something worth i think noting a lot of

02:04:37.680 military guys are like you were in before 9-11 that's crazy but yes and uh so there wasn't a

02:04:45.280 lot going on and i was kind of getting stagnant i think that's a lot of this and for a lot of people

02:04:50.640 that my i was talking to i was here ago the about this before i left my mother printed out

02:04:58.480 a halvamo for me to take with me when i left um for boot camp um as a sense of reading something

02:05:07.520 that i could could uh you know just bring me respite and and um it was kind of nice but

02:05:15.040 these maxims have been with me through a lot of these experiences and now as we're going through

02:05:19.600 them piece by piece i'm kind of thinking back i just wanted to bring that up is that you

02:05:24.400 if you have the opportunity to to push that threshold and boundary even if it was to go

02:05:30.400 to the next town over or to make make a friend in another state or to travel to a moot in a

02:05:36.240 a place you've never been, do it. It's worth it. Get out on that road.

02:05:52.280 Again, a lot of these, um, alcohol ones are kind of poignant, uh, to me as a, you know,

02:05:58.800 lessons. Sometimes when I run into young guys who are really, really heavy on, on the time

02:06:05.320 in their lives of drinking this is um not only just my experiences but it's like it's in the

02:06:11.080 hell of them all calm down um stanza 19 as you know shun not the mead but drink and measure

02:06:20.660 speak to the point or be still for rudeness none shall rightly blame thee if soon thy bed thou

02:06:29.080 seekest. And this one's kind of often translated as well, you know, spurn not the horn, but don't

02:06:37.860 drink over much. Again, that's the same thing as drinking in the measure. You know, speak

02:06:44.420 forthright or don't speak at all. And no one will think you rude. No one will consider you

02:06:54.860 a braggart or a sluggard 0.95

02:06:57.140 if you decide that 1.00

02:06:58.980 it's time that you know

02:07:00.760 guys it's been fun it's been great

02:07:03.000 I gotta go home I gotta do this I have to

02:07:05.020 do that you showed up

02:07:07.020 you shared an experience

02:07:09.040 but you know sometimes it's for

02:07:11.000 the better is that you have to you know

02:07:12.800 get home in order to make sure you're

02:07:14.900 getting up and getting out of bed and doing

02:07:16.860 what you need to do the next day

02:07:18.120 no one can fault you for that

02:07:20.440 this is

02:07:22.940 something that I think is

02:07:24.320 valuable as well to be aware of and again this isn't a prohibition against being that last guy

02:07:33.000 up around the fire there can be advantage to it there can also be disadvantage when you are

02:07:41.180 a young man traveling somewhere and you're in a strange company sometimes less is more you know

02:07:50.000 Sometimes speak to the point if you got something good to say, be reserved, speak less, that

02:07:59.120 makes the words that you say mean more, and then drop the mic and go to bed.

02:08:07.480 The longer that you stay and over-speak and over-put yourself out there, the more the

02:08:17.280 attention is on you for good or for bad, the more everybody else in the crowd dies off and they all

02:08:23.900 start going to bed and you're that last guy staying up, all eyes are on you. And maybe you

02:08:31.180 don't want them to be. There's something to be said for leaving them wanting more.

02:08:34.140 and you get the next day like that's something especially going to going to house true events

02:08:49.280 and especially when it was more common to go to like a campground or like a uh you know a

02:08:56.620 campground or a lodge situation for moots you know you want to be the last guy up so you can

02:09:02.880 soak up all of the fellowship and all of the conversation and all of the fun but you also

02:09:09.200 want to be that first guy up in the morning to do all the you know important things and get breakfast

02:09:13.920 the next day and do all the things you need to do and the older you get the less and less you can be

02:09:19.760 both there's a balance to be found there and you know i've certainly seen my ability to do both

02:09:27.760 diminish over my years being involved yeah i think i find myself as a night owl more often

02:09:36.640 and um even at like uh siggerheim not imbibing in the horn or anything but being around people 0.88

02:09:45.520 and making sure they get you know get to their tents and and being that kind of that last guy 0.88

02:09:50.800 you do get those special moments of seeing all the folk kind of go to bed and and are safe and

02:09:57.760 I got a chance to go in the middle of the night and sing songs up there to, you know, to your to your mother and to the others that are up there and kind of quietly kind of go back down into the night and kind of hit the tent.

02:10:17.080 it was really really beautiful but yes the next morning like i lost some of that edge in that

02:10:22.320 front half because i was up um you know singing songs to the those who have passed and um i kind

02:10:31.920 of missed i think some important stuff had to be uh woken up someone banging on the tent get up get

02:10:39.880 up you're somebody's looking for you you know there's value in both just make sure you're

02:10:46.500 you're choosing what you do um i tend to stay

02:10:53.060 if it's choosing between staying late and getting up early if you come to events you will you will

02:10:58.180 seldom share breakfast with me just put it that way um but yeah i think these and especially this

02:11:08.900 front end of and i realize that we're taking a very long time on a very few stanzas but they're

02:11:14.260 important and we'll go as long as we've got to do on these um so we'll see how many we get through

02:11:20.900 i think that do you want to do like 25 i've got i've got an idea in my mind of about where we're

02:11:30.100 going to cut off and i think that idea is well this side of 79 so um but yeah i think these are

02:11:37.940 really good i think they're extremely important uh what i was going to say the front end of this

02:11:43.300 not only is it very straightforward but it's very applicable to our lives you don't have to

02:11:52.340 put yourself in a different time in a different place you don't have to delve deeply into the

02:11:57.300 realm of myth to take these very very good counsels for how to conduct yourself as a man when you're

02:12:08.020 when you're away from home when you travel when you're in social settings this is extremely

02:12:14.180 valuable and it's also very very accessible yeah this and again it the the whole culture here is

02:12:26.420 is re-emphasizing now we kind of move into not just um the over drinking but now to the over

02:12:32.980 eating. And this comes into a great point. Um, I think it shows about your, your expectations

02:12:40.280 and reservation towards, um, uh, you know, being an overtaking guest, um, or being a burdensome

02:12:47.760 guest. And that's, you know, stanza 20 talks about it. The greedy guests, uh, or the greedy

02:12:52.800 man, if his mind be vague, will eat till sick. He is the vulgar man when among the wise to scorn 0.56

02:13:02.360 by his belly is brought and i really um i like how it's even emphasized that you know to be um

02:13:12.200 uh overly greedy and in in that way is even a testament against your wisdom

02:13:18.840 uh and that of course is emphasized in um a few stanzas coming up but yeah the the greedy man

02:13:26.680 who doesn't moderate himself uh will eat his own sickness um

02:13:35.880 and and and you know again his belly will bring laughter um from amongst his guests you know the

02:13:43.720 the vulgar man when amongst the wise uh will gain scorn because of his belly so this is

02:13:50.760 Okay, so this does harken back to a comment

02:13:54.420 in the chat room about obesity, but it's...

02:14:04.500 I will say this in a couple of different ways

02:14:07.540 of taking this that are both valuable.

02:14:12.760 If you're in a social situation that involves food and drink,

02:14:21.640 it's very compelling to just sit there and drink yourself silly because you don't know what else

02:14:27.720 to do you look awkward if you don't have anything in your hands but if you got a drink in your hand

02:14:32.760 you look less awkward and you drink when you're nervous and you drink and then you got to get

02:14:39.480 another drink and then another and then before you know it gets up it catches up with you and we've

02:14:45.160 we've talked that to death i get that but the other thing that's easy to do is well i look like

02:14:51.240 i'm busy and look like i don't look like i'm sitting here being awkward if i'm eating so i'm

02:14:55.640 just going to keep eating and i'm going to eat for comfort and i'm going to eat for you know

02:15:00.600 to cure my social anxieties and you can do that and um yeah and people people notice the other

02:15:12.120 thing is be having the self-awareness of when people are looking at you and you are

02:15:20.280 eating more than is normal if you're that guy that's like sloppily eating if you are not if

02:15:28.360 you lose focus on the social environment you are in and are instead focused on the trough

02:15:35.000 people make judgments the other thing and i and i will say this i noticed this today and we've all

02:15:42.600 seen this and i think it's it's easy to make fun of but i don't say this to make fun i say this to

02:15:50.820 remind our folk who are listening people are watching you if you're someone that has

02:15:59.120 an obesity problem, don't be the fat guy that's sitting there eating McDonald's where people can 0.52

02:16:05.920 see you. They will laugh at you. And you don't want that. Be aware of things. Be aware of your 0.54

02:16:15.060 situation. Don't make a meme of yourself in a negative way. Just that kind of self-awareness.

02:16:25.420 it's really it's really important and subtle things when people are apt to judge you and

02:16:33.660 apt to look at you are really important you know maybe if you're struggling with your weight and

02:16:39.900 you're around people choose to make your plate look like you want it to look if you got to go

02:16:47.340 back to your hotel room and snarf down the snacks cool do that invite me over we will

02:16:54.460 pig out together on the snacks cool but when you're in the presence of people and people

02:17:00.620 are judging you be aware put your best foot forward be aware of how you look to others

02:17:06.300 don't become overly focused on the refreshments and this sounds like just such a such a small

02:17:13.020 and mundane thing to talk about on a on a religious program but it's real all these little little

02:17:19.260 things count little things add up to big things and we all want to project the best image of

02:17:24.700 ourselves of our family and here's the thing when you when you travel and you're at an event

02:17:32.780 whatever it is you are an ambassador for your family for groups that you are a known part of

02:17:43.500 if you're an afa member when you travel you represent the afa when you go places

02:17:50.140 they will associate the afa good or bad with your actions and how you present yourself

02:17:57.340 um same thing with you know with your family and your people and that's what

02:18:01.340 that's what those folks are up to that's what you all do where you're from and they're

02:18:08.300 so making a good example of that this is essential to what that concept of nobility is

02:18:13.260 about i keep going back to this in my thought as you're as you're talking about like this is also

02:18:23.660 like this is a moot reference guide and i don't mean that in the i mean it in the like the sense

02:18:28.940 of a meetup or a moot um you know when you go and you you meet other fellow uh afa members perhaps

02:18:35.740 in your area or if a folk builder or uh govi is holding a moot and you're you know maybe it's at

02:18:42.060 a pub or maybe it's at a bowling alley or maybe it's at the beach or at a hike the how the first

02:18:49.500 half is or the first of the beginnings really do kind of apply with the way that both whoever's

02:18:56.460 hosting the moot and whoever's coming to it this is a great way again that cultural infusion of

02:19:02.460 correct etiquette this all really is part of the wisdom of snotra our lady snotra is the goddess

02:19:11.260 of etiquette norms cultural cohesion through proper and right action and um so this you know

02:19:21.260 this kind of uh the living embodiment of her dominion is in the uh again gaining renown or

02:19:30.140 losing renown based on how people act so you know like you go to a moot and let's say i'm hosting

02:19:35.340 a moot and everything's great and everything's good and then all of a sudden i'm you know like

02:19:39.500 eating seven plates and i'm i'm kind of like talking with my mouth open and just all of a

02:19:46.700 sudden it's like you know you got to take into account i mean i'm not saying you can't dig into

02:19:52.060 stuff when you're like when i'm around my family and we're all eating together it's fun it's good

02:19:56.080 and sometimes you know proprieties are often left aside especially with the little ones and

02:20:02.820 and all of that and uh but when you're out and you're out amongst folk and you're you're learning

02:20:08.800 or teaching or just getting together in order to progress forward our faith, you know, yeah,

02:20:18.120 take a lot of these social considerations into mind. They're important.

02:20:23.740 I like this too. The herd knows well when home they shall fare, and when from the grass they go.

02:20:39.780 But the foolish man his belly measures shall never know aright. 0.98

02:20:46.200 Even the cows know when to go home. Even the cows know when to quit. 0.99

02:20:50.900 so this is this the perfect time to answer a previous question the question that i've alluded

02:20:56.740 to a couple of times that came up in the chat room we are now on the uh the fat verses and i think um

02:21:04.820 this is the appropriate time before we do that though daniel skinner gave us 25 and a question

02:21:12.420 and i really appreciate that thank you daniel uh your contribution is is much appreciated

02:21:17.540 I said, hail the folk, hail the AFA question. What is the end goal of Sigurheim? What would

02:21:25.040 you like to see happen? So this, I'll lay out a couple of things and I'm happy to expound

02:21:38.320 upon it um more but i think of far-reaching goals but i don't like to conceive in terms of an end

02:21:51.520 goal because to my mind it's going to be something that's perpetually built upon um

02:22:01.040 the goals i would like to see at sigurheim within my lifetime

02:22:05.680 um i would like there to be a nucleus that's at our actual land that includes a hof to lord tier

02:22:18.000 that includes a feasting drinking merriment hall to enjoy each other's company to share good times

02:22:31.720 with to share bad times with to share life with to have a communal hall there i'd also like to have

02:22:41.240 guest facilities where people can stay there but also facilities to where if we have members that

02:22:46.840 are um that are infirmed that need a place to be or that are elderly and don't have other folk to

02:22:55.640 help take care of them so that they can be there and still actively participate in our afa family

02:23:01.960 with people who care about them and watch over them i'd like it to be a place where we can pool

02:23:08.600 resources whatever that might look like when people are struggling when people are having a

02:23:14.520 hard time where our place have our people have a place to go and people who love them and care for

02:23:19.480 them no matter what life brings having that fundamental security for our folk is really

02:23:27.880 important to me there and i'd like that to expand out to where we get a significant number of

02:23:34.680 members living in the surrounding county anywhere in that county in jackson county tennessee puts

02:23:40.520 folks within half an hour of the Hoff and Sigurheim proper. So I really want to build that

02:23:48.720 village, that community of AFA members that are bound by our common loyalty to the Aesir and to

02:23:57.580 our AFA. That's what I'd like to see. And I think all of that is certainly attainable. And I'm

02:24:06.040 looking forward to that progressing.

02:24:09.420 It's progressing as it is,

02:24:11.460 it's never progressing quite as much as I want it to,

02:24:14.400 but no matter how fast it came,

02:24:16.340 I want it to come faster

02:24:17.760 because I've got a lot of things

02:24:19.480 that I want to see accomplished.

02:24:21.280 But I would imagine that we'll have several,

02:24:26.440 that we will have two or three families out there

02:24:29.960 within the next two years.

02:24:33.180 I hope we can get it quicker than that,

02:24:35.000 that's my thought process as far as anything solid. But those are kind of my goals with it.

02:24:40.500 And again, thank you for your donation. Back to the fat thing for a second.

02:24:47.740 The question read like this. Sorry, I got to scroll back up to it. I heard being morbidly

02:24:59.260 obese is a gross violation of the noble virtues discipline and industriousness why and is this

02:25:06.460 also supported by the have them all yes you can see the last two stanzas clearly talking about

02:25:15.580 if you are you know if you're defining characteristic is your belly and how much

02:25:21.120 were eating that was you know not thought to be noble and graceful uh by our folk the other thing

02:25:30.480 uh yeah how you look and the physical state of yourself speaks volumes about

02:25:40.320 your certain personal characteristics being so okay being an impeccable physical condition

02:25:54.320 speaks amazingly positive like wow this person has the discipline and the commitment to be in

02:26:03.560 And it takes work to be an impeccable shape, to be an athlete, to be fit to the point where you've got definable abs and whatever else that says that you're able to have mastery over your wants.

02:26:19.640 It means that you're able to train regularly and even when you don't want to, or even when

02:26:24.380 it's not convenient, it means you're able to stick to a diet that's, you know, restrictive

02:26:30.460 in a lot of ways.

02:26:32.280 Or if you're, you know, you start out scrawny, it means you stick to a diet that maybe you're

02:26:37.020 eating uncomfortably much of just the right things to get where you're at.

02:26:41.200 It says that you are capable of putting in that effort over a sustained period of time

02:26:49.880 to produce a certain result the other thing is a value that has always been a value to our folk

02:26:57.400 just because somebody picked nine way back when those aren't those are by no means the end all

02:27:03.320 be all of of our virtues they are certainly noble virtues but there's more but one of those is

02:27:08.680 beauty aesthetics and celebrating things that are beautiful has always been a fundamental to our folk

02:27:17.320 and it still is today so you want to look good and obesity doesn't look good um

02:27:27.080 and you know there is a reason that people assume that fat people are undisciplined and lazy

02:27:36.520 that's again that's outside of what is

02:27:39.560 is politically correct to say in the wolf age, but it's honest. And we all have our failings

02:27:47.580 and things that we can improve on. And one of the things that's unfortunate about obesity

02:27:54.020 is it takes a long time to fix. You know, the person who asked the question said morbidly obese.

02:28:01.860 If you find yourself morbidly obese and you want to change it, you're not going to change it

02:28:07.620 tomorrow. And you're not going to change it a year from now, maybe. It takes a really long time.

02:28:13.980 So I will say this too. And again, a first impression is a first impression. But people

02:28:19.520 who know you over time, if you are obese, and you're working on it, if and when you overcome

02:28:26.620 it, and to the degree by which you overcome it, that speaks to your discipline as well.

02:28:33.540 that speaks to your industriousness. So, you know, it's not, don't hang your head in shame.

02:28:41.260 If you find yourself there, pick yourself up and start tomorrow, making the right choices so you

02:28:47.480 can get to a better place. Overcoming, it speaks to the discipline as well. So just keep that in

02:28:54.440 mind. But yes, absolutely. That is a very obvious and very front forward expression of a lack of

02:29:04.920 industriousness and discipline up to a certain point in your life.

02:29:11.000 And whether we want people to or not, people will definitely judge you for it. And we do judge

02:29:19.000 others for it, along with a bunch of other things, but that's certainly one of them.

02:29:24.440 Well, I see a question, are there fitness requirements for folk builders, since I think

02:29:39.040 we're...

02:29:40.040 So, okay, that's a fine, that's relevant to what we're on here.

02:29:45.520 no but there is okay so to be in a to become an apprentice folk builder no to continue forward

02:29:59.860 with folk building to become an oath folk builder a bit more so to train to become a gothe or a

02:30:08.120 Githya more so than that. The idea isn't that one has to be in a certain physical condition to

02:30:15.780 pursue that, but it means when one decides to pursue that, they need to be moving forward

02:30:24.760 towards getting in a better physical condition if they find themselves far outside of the line of

02:30:32.180 what's what's healthy and what's good we want to give all our people an opportunity to step

02:30:38.260 forward and as i mentioned if you find yourself a certain level of obesity it can take you know it

02:30:43.620 can take a decade of your life to try to get yourself out from under that we don't ask that

02:30:49.060 that's where it has to be but we would like it to be moving that direction

02:30:54.980 and more so the higher up in leadership that you find yourself

02:31:02.180 um i remember um talking to a friend of mine and he was like i guess experiencing criticisms

02:31:12.980 from um more perhaps universally minded um internet heathens if you will and they were

02:31:21.560 speaking about how you know we're ties and we have these haircuts and these haircuts they just

02:31:26.960 they look so militant or whatever words i can't remember he was he was telling me he was laughing

02:31:34.000 um and they they just stopped short of you know again the fitness aspect and then the ability to

02:31:40.880 um you know be in fair shape if not good shape and uh he was just like this is what you're

02:31:50.400 criticizing these people on is that they dress well and they take care of themselves and they

02:31:55.880 consider this an important part. And it really, these stanzas remind me that this isn't just some

02:32:03.260 sort of arbitrary thing. This is a deep cultural and religious aspect of our faith is that you

02:32:08.960 should be trying to improve. You should be trying to get better. You should be caring about the way

02:32:14.260 you look. Work at it. And that's something to note about folk builders. We are at a stage where

02:32:24.640 we it's not like we're going out and selecting who we think is the best candidate for folk

02:32:35.060 building these are people that volunteer and step up and say hey i want to help build our church i

02:32:42.400 want to help build our folk i would like to step forward and do that so yes they're putting

02:32:50.320 themselves out there and if we have a folk builder step up that is overweight there's criticism that

02:32:57.520 comes in for that what's unfortunate is that criticism doesn't see you know where they were

02:33:04.400 where they're headed or a trajectory but it's honest and and that's fair but what also should

02:33:11.120 be noted on that is that they have the courage to put their name in their face behind their loyalty

02:33:19.360 to our church in the isere and that's one of the reasons that there's not nearly as many folk

02:33:25.040 builders as we would like there to be is a lot of people lack that courage so make sure that we're 0.99

02:33:33.520 we're viewing a totality like yes you can see a negative in their current physical condition

02:33:39.200 perhaps but you can also see a positive in their courage and their willingness to step forward when

02:33:44.880 needed and that's tremendously valuable so one of the things that it's important to keep in mind

02:33:53.440 is we can all be better than we are today and we want to help each other be better tomorrow

02:33:59.920 than we are today and that looks really different depending on where you're at in

02:34:05.360 any of your personal levels of development and with folks who are dealing with being overweight

02:34:11.520 it's a very front-facing thing a lot of folks have deep problems that are hidden and that are

02:34:23.280 very internal but sometimes are are more drastic but that's certainly literally on the face of things

02:34:29.600 all right so we're we're on uh 22 um let's see a paltry man and poor of mind at all things

02:34:48.360 ever mocks for never he knows what he ought to know that he is not free from his own fault or

02:34:57.140 from faults excuse me he is not free from faults i like this one a lot too because it does talk

02:35:05.700 about a real bad sickness that we have again i think you you kind of alluded to it that the

02:35:11.540 the floundering of a coward a person who constructs um things in order to kind of

02:35:18.420 alleviate a lot of their own um inner adversities um this one too is a big one i've noticed as of

02:35:26.740 the last couple of decades is um cynicism uh again to cover a lot of one's own faults um and that

02:35:37.620 cynicism and that uh that desire to tear things down to prod at what people are doing to naysay

02:35:47.140 what they're doing to um i don't know change them like shift the goal post if you will um

02:35:53.620 has a tendency to come out in this you know form of like sniding

02:35:59.860 scoffing sense that this person can mock things that are going on and is completely

02:36:09.480 oblivious to their own and oftentimes is mocking in order to hide their own but it's not often

02:36:17.560 seen enough to where um people with wisdom will realize well you know this person is mocking

02:36:23.580 someone who's what is this person doing why are they doing it and how are they conducting

02:36:28.980 themselves instead of just paying attention to oh you know they're you know they're not

02:36:34.220 well read or they're not you know they're doing this wrong this is the this is made a thousand

02:36:42.900 times worse in the age that we live in with um with social media and we see this all of the time

02:36:49.960 on twitter um it's very fortuitous that this comes right after uh the the posts about people

02:36:59.120 who are, you know, about the fat posts or the fat stanzas because that's something that is very

02:37:10.080 easy to poke fun at. If you are feeling lacking internally, we can all point at the fat guy and

02:37:18.980 laugh instead of acknowledging different stuff that we all may need to work on, but it may be

02:37:26.600 more hidden um and i think people have a tendency to do that one thing i notice

02:37:32.120 we have we have from time to time gotten people who complain about how

02:37:37.080 afa members or perhaps afa folk builders look and then i try to look at their profile picture

02:37:45.320 and there's some kind of cartoon nonsense that's not real they're not willing to put

02:37:51.800 a picture of themselves out there but it's real easy to enter into the the discussion complaining

02:37:59.000 about someone else there's lots of people that there's a lot of basement do nothings that want

02:38:09.400 to criticize everything that anyone does that's successful in order to justify their lack of

02:38:20.600 meaningful existence and it's way easier to make fun than it is to go out there and in a realm

02:38:27.240 that you might not be comfortable with challenge yourself to put your best self forward and to

02:38:33.560 build something it's always so much easier to tear down than it is to build up um

02:38:43.000 and i think that i think that we all know that it's it's a much easier thing to to destroy than

02:38:48.600 to build it's worthwhile to note that you know the two wolves that chase the sun and the moon

02:38:58.760 seeking to snuff out light from existence literally mean the mocker and the hater

02:39:08.200 and i think that's i think that's worth contemplating you know it's literally those

02:39:15.240 those that sit around on the sidelines and criticize that's what devours success and

02:39:21.080 our ability to move forward yeah i was looking at the uh comment where you know when when will

02:39:32.600 the internet heathens address uh lord wilson's uh fat phobia i've pondered that myself too

02:39:39.400 let's see um and we're on um 23. 23 the witless man is awake all night thinking of many things

02:39:56.120 careworn he is when the morning comes and his woes his woe is just as it was

02:40:04.040 I like the stanza to this one that kind of, um, you know, I, I, outside of my faith, I think a

02:40:12.000 great, um, some pillars of, of application and thought that have really helped me. One of them

02:40:19.660 is, is, um, getting introduced to stoicism while I was in the military. And this is kind of the

02:40:25.500 stoic quote or the stoic stanza, if you will, that I really, really like it's, it's about that

02:40:31.600 anxiety, you know, you, you fret over the future, but you'll face that present moment with the same

02:40:37.540 tools you have now. Um, you know, it's the same integrity you have, the ability for you to do

02:40:44.080 things. Um, so, you know, again, it's, it's, um, you know, now we're getting into what, like, uh,

02:40:53.120 I guess mental, mental issues, you know, all of these people nowadays glorifying, I have anxiety.

02:41:00.740 I have bipolar disorder.

02:41:03.760 I have all of these things that they're just kind of parading around as, I don't know, badges or whatever they have.

02:41:11.020 But here, Lord Vothan is saying, you know, again, he's speaking about anxieties.

02:41:16.400 A witless man is awake all night thinking of many things.

02:41:19.180 You can't, you're grinding yourself.

02:41:22.640 And in the morning, they're not gone.

02:41:25.380 so you need to have that confidence of gaining good sleep and and uh and moving forward you know

02:41:34.380 knowing that you'll have to tackle those problems when you get to them instead of you know hand

02:41:39.460 wringing and biting of the fingernails and and uh fretting the the possibilities that haven't

02:41:46.400 been even woven by the norns yet um i really really do like this one

02:41:52.240 yeah i've mentioned it enough but our people are crippled with fear and so much of that fear

02:42:03.640 is amplified by the aspect of the unknown um i've seen so much fear amongst our fault

02:42:13.380 by their conditioning than by actual consequence it's more the fear of what if

02:42:21.160 they assume that every confrontation equals their destruction that every you know every eye on who

02:42:30.220 they are and what they're doing equals their whole life's done and that the one does not necessarily

02:42:36.780 equal the other fear is a powerful tool of our enemies that cost them very

02:42:48.720 little and can prevent anyone from doing anything and if we don't overcome that 0.99

02:42:56.580 kind of fear we can't ever build momentum towards positive things 24 the foolish man

02:43:17.220 for friends all those who laugh at him will hold when among the wise wise he marks it not

02:43:25.380 though hatred of him they speak that um this one is is more along the lines of where

02:43:34.980 bellows is is going with his translations um you know it's 0.94

02:43:45.060 i think the overall point of this is that a fool you know thinks that all all the people that laugh 0.86

02:43:51.700 you know with him are his friends and um you know that uh he doesn't see them 0.96

02:44:03.220 being malicious or having you know a certain sense of scorn or sneering at him um when he sits

02:44:09.300 amongst the wise because he's unable to differentiate or worst off i think this could 0.95

02:44:14.660 also mean in a sense where like a fool who flings insults at people thinks that everyone that 0.97

02:44:21.700 is there would laugh and join in with him. They think that he, because he's leading the 0.92

02:44:28.580 charge on some notion that, um, you know, every horse is with him kind of thing. Um, and

02:44:36.280 you might not realize in the setting of things is you're kind of, you know,

02:44:41.940 on your own or alone or worse off, you're, you're festering enemies. So

02:44:47.580 yeah i think uh um when amongst the wise he marks it not he doesn't realize

02:44:57.840 um though he's he's brewing hatred for for himself by being this kind of you know callous

02:45:06.400 and cynic uh person or this doom doom uh kind of uh gravitated person constantly in the you know

02:45:15.880 in the black pill they're constantly in the the doom mindset or they're in this cynicism and this

02:45:23.240 again mocking people that are doing things meanwhile he might even be festering

02:45:29.520 um you know things amongst himself because what's the one thing if you if you hear someone

02:45:35.760 mocking you that one of the first human inclinations of is do they say the same things

02:45:43.700 about me that they're saying about other people you know i don't think that people do have that

02:45:49.540 thought unfortunately and they should they absolutely should i was thinking of a very

02:45:56.580 specific group of people we and and i mentioned this at the top of the show people bond often over

02:46:04.900 gathering together to laugh at someone else we all do it to one degree or another but i've seen

02:46:10.980 a lot of situations where it manifests in a really toxic way i knew this group of three women

02:46:19.140 i knew them all individually and then i would interact with them and see them

02:46:25.060 interact with each other in pairs any combination would spend their entire time together

02:46:32.900 they're trashing the third one.

02:46:36.620 And then you'd shuffle them up

02:46:38.380 and then the other two would trash the third one.

02:46:42.520 And then the other combination,

02:46:43.940 those two would trash the third one.

02:46:47.220 And it didn't seem to occur to all of them that,

02:46:52.180 no, wait, when I'm not here, they're all bashing me.

02:46:55.960 Folks do that when we have people in common, but it's one of those things, it's really

02:47:07.580 easy to think that everybody who's laughing amongst you must be laughing with you and

02:47:18.000 not at you.

02:47:19.600 often it's the opposite of the case. Yeah, and this reiteration of stanza 24 and 25,

02:47:30.980 the first parts of these stanzas are, again, a poetic repetitional form. Perhaps the doubling

02:47:39.640 of the front of these stanzas is a cue for the poet to, you know, understand that from these

02:47:47.340 two we might be moving into something else or something of another nature and so you'll find

02:47:52.700 these kind of road mark stanzas and they often are manifesting in repetitive um prose or repetitive

02:48:04.300 meter and here is the same thing you know uh the unwise man i mean the foolish man um uh for all

02:48:13.500 uh for friends all those who laugh at him will hold but the truth when he comes to the council 0.89

02:48:22.140 he learns few will speak few in his favor will speak 0.74

02:48:29.740 so again the repetitiveness of the foolish man for friends all those 0.90

02:48:33.900 who laugh at him will hold um this again is those those people that are often with you 0.98

02:48:40.540 those people that you joke and and kind of snide at others with when a time comes for you know

02:48:47.100 your merit or for someone to be brave enough to stand with you um at the all thing or the council

02:48:54.700 or the the gathering or perhaps it could be anything it could be uh an integrity um moment

02:49:01.020 when you're at work and somebody in higher ups want to speak with you and or or just anything

02:49:07.580 of that nature and you find that you know the people that were laughing jeering and sniding

02:49:12.540 are either not in agreeance with you or very much cut of the same cloth and they're not gonna

02:49:19.260 you wouldn't show up for them they're not gonna show up for you you're on your own

02:49:25.420 they were they were with you when the laugh was there but it's nothing of substance

02:49:30.220 I really, you know, I enjoy that because, again, it references to everything in Iceland, the gathering of everyone.

02:49:50.680 And oftentimes, you know, litigations and disputes were settled and things like that.

02:49:56.720 And this is a warning to those people is like you, you know, when you really count on it, you need to make sure you have people of good integrity.

02:50:04.880 You need to surround yourself with people who aren't always jeering and poking and prodding and being cynics of so many things when it's really serious and time, time comes.

02:50:18.680 um and so we we kind of go into like these are when we start getting into the merit

02:50:26.960 the value and the wisdom of of a man and his and his company um we're moving into stanza 26

02:50:36.100 an ignorant man thinks that he knows that all he knows when he sits by himself in a corner

02:50:44.000 but never what answer to make he knows when others with questions come. 0.97

02:50:50.860 I mean, that's kind of what we're doing here.

02:50:53.720 You spearheaded that, the idea of being able to answer questions on the fly,

02:51:00.420 to just face what people want to know and answer honestly and wisely.

02:51:06.820 And I think that a lot of people that don't partake in ever opening themselves up

02:51:12.440 to that form of criticism um or their ability to just kind of comment and talk um shows that

02:51:22.080 yeah i mean they're always you know oh i know the answers to all that but you know it never

02:51:28.960 wants to be questioned about it so he just kind of scuttles off and and um you know goes into the

02:51:34.900 books or goes into the uh the big one i've always noticed in this day and age is blogs

02:51:40.520 the idea of people that make blogs and they write about things sometimes their insight can be

02:51:46.840 interesting and and whatever but so a lot of people like go into this refuge of of having

02:51:53.420 an answer for everything but it's in a medium in which you can't be engaged i have like some

02:52:00.200 of the social media apps where it's like that where it's just all out and um and no in there's

02:52:07.280 no um there's no discourse there's no questions like that's why i love this the vns is that we

02:52:12.780 can see these questions but some people like to post in things where they don't have to really

02:52:17.000 answer any questions they just this is what i believe and this is what it is and and that's

02:52:21.700 that and if you think otherwise you know you're dumb and it's like uh having an open forum is a 0.72

02:52:30.960 great way to find meat and potatoes of someone's mind yeah um reality is the proving ground of 0.97

02:52:42.000 ideas all of you know everybody thinks their ideas are the best ideas otherwise wouldn't why

02:52:49.320 wouldn't they think them but if you're not willing to put them into practice or have them tested

02:52:53.560 or speak them in front of people and see the reaction they're of they're of no value

02:53:01.160 um when you put things it was fun and i have talked about this a lot in a more overtly

02:53:08.580 spiritual context but the magic of taking something that is an idea internally and

02:53:15.040 speaking it makes it real and it makes it it puts down a flag that can be challenged

02:53:22.300 um and very often people don't have the courage to stand behind their ideas but have the courage

02:53:29.680 to maybe even say them on you know again in a blog or in a social media thing with a fake name

02:53:37.100 and a fake picture and a fake whatever it's really different when you go out there and you

02:53:41.640 put your name and your reputation behind the things that you say

02:53:44.660 i'm sorry just thinking of uh the joke we were talking about the um the internet vikings like

02:53:55.300 with names like a blood-borne pathogen son and he's speaking about how you know uh i i actually

02:54:04.340 i got that um on twitter when someone was talking about um the the uh the rudimentaries

02:54:14.160 of my of my paintings and uh saying that you know it just looks so it it looks so uh elementary and

02:54:23.680 then he kind of posted like you know a a comic book version and like one that was bordering on

02:54:31.120 homoeroticism at par and i was like ah and then he like two classical art pieces which i knew about

02:54:38.480 and was like oh those are really good i like those but it's like at the end of the day it's like

02:54:44.160 go do better like proof that's so that's kind of a that's a that's something that i do on twitter

02:54:55.600 and i try really hard not to engage in uh just nonsense but when people ask those things

02:55:05.120 you know it's like i said earlier about people uh who want to comment negatively saying that you know

02:55:09.520 know a member or folk builders ugly or fat or whatever they say often i don't say this because

02:55:18.240 i think it might look i don't know might not look dignified but it occurs to me and well can can we

02:55:27.620 see what you look like oh so you said this with a fake name and a picture of somebody from a comic

02:55:34.600 book you know how how valuable is your is your opinion at that point it's like you know swan's

02:55:43.400 art is is rudimentary okay well can you show us your amazing artwork and if you're a fine artist

02:55:50.600 then cool maybe we should listen to what you have to say and if you aren't maybe you shouldn't say

02:55:56.440 stuff right um somebody did that we posted uh posted a picture of of children in thorshoff

02:56:06.680 doing a children's blow i remember this one somebody was like that that looks so uninspired

02:56:16.920 and they posted and i i don't know how they posted the noise i made but i inferred it

02:56:22.040 captures the essence but yeah and and my response was you know oh okay well you

02:56:30.680 know can you how do how do the children who do bloat in one of your Hoffs how

02:56:38.980 does that look can you show that to us so we can learn from it you know well I

02:56:44.560 didn't mean that I meant the building itself okay well can you show us pictures

02:56:48.720 of of how you've decorated your your hof and nothing and some of it you know is a jab but

02:56:59.260 not really it's it's it's honest it's if you're bringing something better to the table then by

02:57:05.340 all means let's learn from it but if you're complaining just to complain

02:57:08.660 and what are you comparing it to you're comparing us worshiping our gods in hoffs with children

02:57:23.780 to your sitting in mom's basement and typing something nasty on twitter so

02:57:31.620 So yeah, I think that's, I think that's worthwhile.

02:57:37.200 As they said, as they said in the side chat, physique or no critique.

02:57:44.380 That's awesome.

02:57:45.280 That's a great thing.

02:57:45.920 Well done.

02:57:50.000 Well, and the other thing is like, I've, I've heard people say, oh, they're always going

02:57:53.580 to go back to that and they're always going to try to, that's their one drum or whatever.

02:57:58.280 it's like no the point is one you have no merit unless you have something to offer

02:58:04.600 and the the the the most audacious wisdom that we're presenting is if you have something of

02:58:12.600 equivalence or greater we would like to know you want to learn from it we want to hear it

02:58:18.200 let's see it let's we will try to surpass that please know that when i say something like that

02:58:23.400 i am fully prepared if his flex would have been to show me a picture of his off

02:58:30.600 with his kids doing a cooler better more powerful more meaningful ritual than ours

02:58:37.240 i would be very very open to hearing his insights on what we could do better or differently

02:58:43.800 and i really mean that um and just like the people who criticize if they show me a picture

02:58:49.720 and they're, you know, some stunning beauty or they're some, you know, guy that is a competitive,

02:58:56.580 you know, bodybuilder. Okay. Absolutely. You know, I will take that fair point,

02:59:03.580 but it's the people that don't want to put any skin in the game that just won't criticize that

02:59:09.140 that would take an issue

02:59:11.660 so we are on um 27 27 0.98

02:59:22.200 a witless man again a witless man when he meets with men 0.95

02:59:28.520 had best in silence abide for no one shall find that nothing he knows 0.99

02:59:34.820 if his mouth is not open too much

02:59:37.980 But a man knows not, if nothing he knows, when his mouth has been opened too much.

02:59:46.200 I mean, that is our version of the, you know, let not your mouth be opened too much, for your tongue will oftentimes be your own undoing. 1.00

02:59:59.820 That is one for one right there is that the idiot who is silent and learns is a thousand times more in worth than the idiot who just runs his suck all day and never, you know, shuts up or listens or really gives anything. 0.99

03:00:24.600 of and you know i think this is a time to mention about defensiveness and i see this in a number of 1.00

03:00:31.720 situations um and we we go back to the um fitness or lack thereof thing because i see this the

03:00:40.760 biggest things that i see this displayed in are people who are obese or people who are cowardly

03:00:50.920 when courage is brought up the coward feels the need to post all of his excuses and proactively

03:01:02.460 voice but what about you know this and what about if i have good reason to be scared what

03:01:07.900 i wasn't talking to you but since you stood up and have become the example of cowardice

03:01:15.280 like all lights are on you now what you didn't need to say anything could have just sat there

03:01:20.980 and done done your thing when we have a post um sometimes or when we talk in groups about fitness

03:01:28.100 people who are obese which is if that's what they want to do I you know I don't think that's a good

03:01:38.960 choice but that's certainly their choice to make but they need to be the first ones who list all

03:01:46.000 of the reasons that they can't possibly ever get in shape and how they don't have motivation and

03:01:52.000 working out's too hard and no just just sit there just sit there quietly nobody was pointing you out

03:02:00.160 nobody was trying to you know put anything in your face but there's a compulsion when we feel lacking

03:02:11.600 to go out swinging with some kind of justification or go out swinging with some kind of excuse

03:02:21.760 don't do that that's a sign that you know something's broken instead learn from

03:02:28.560 the wisdom that's shared and apply it. Or worse, if you don't want to, just sit there and keep to

03:02:37.480 yourself. That's okay, too. Let's go ahead and hit 28. I think we are going to end with

03:02:56.500 stands of 30 tonight. Okay. Excellent. Yeah. I was, uh, I muted out the, I was getting some

03:03:02.860 feedback from the clock. So I was like, Oh, no, you're on the program. People look forward to

03:03:09.580 hearing the clock. Some people are like, ah, the clock, it's good. Um, so let's see where

03:03:16.620 28. Why shall he seem who well can question and also answer well, not is concealed that men may say among the sons of men?

03:03:32.100 so this one is uh the first one is is basically simply stating that you know a wise man should be

03:03:44.540 able to take questions and answer questions well even if you don't know the answer the idea is to

03:03:50.000 uh i'm interested in that i want to find the answer or i'll find someone who knows the answer

03:03:56.080 however you deal with that it's that noble um essence of of being questioned being criticized

03:04:02.340 i think we see that a lot of times um perhaps like on social media and things like that where

03:04:08.180 people who have rationale who are more grounded in traditionalism and they start to speak up and

03:04:15.540 they're kind of badgered or jackaled by uh you know a lot of people that are constantly

03:04:22.440 you know not even really asking the questions just badgering and and nipping at their heels

03:04:27.720 about things and it's an it it's such a interesting look that any person of good

03:04:34.520 mind or wisdom would gravitate towards the person who's willing to talk who's willing

03:04:39.320 to answer questions and also ask questions um you know it's it's i i think that's just interesting

03:04:49.160 but the part not is concealed it is uh not a lot is concealed not as concealed much is hard to conceal

03:04:58.520 um when you know you sit amongst the the men when you sit amongst your folk and listen um

03:05:09.400 to their words you you know you can basically you can gain a lot by simply listening and uh digesting

03:05:17.880 the information that's being spoken around you i think that's really the kind of overall meaning

03:05:24.120 of 28 is that you should you know wise men can answer questions ask questions and do well um

03:05:31.400 but very no wisdom is ever truly concealed if you sit and listen and this is um

03:05:40.200 again in the context of this which is important is a whole culture and it sticks with us today

03:05:49.600 as a valuable thing when you're sitting around the fire you're sitting around the the table with

03:05:57.040 with learned people and you converse with them that's those are proving grounds because it's

03:06:06.200 conversation it's back and forth there was that was a common thing amongst our ancestors is to

03:06:13.640 question people or try to fool them with riddles and uh you know have a conversation to test your

03:06:19.560 wits and to have these discussions and when done when done right these discussions strengthen the

03:06:27.960 participants and if you find a circle of people that you ought not be talking in

03:06:34.840 then keep your mouth shut and just absorb the wisdom.

03:06:38.920 But yeah, this is sound advice on interaction with the folk.

03:06:54.280 Stanza 29.

03:06:57.800 Often he speaks who never is still with words that win no faith.

03:07:04.120 The babbling tongue, if a bridle it finds not, oft for itself sings ill.

03:07:14.380 This is the, you know, again, someone who's constantly speaking or,

03:07:19.700 and I often take this too as like never still when he rambles,

03:07:26.040 but also too, like when his opinion changes, when someone's a flip-flop,

03:07:31.040 when someone's kind of uh speak kind words to the kind people that they're around but then venom

03:07:38.600 you know words elsewhere uh you know somebody who's kind of like a fence sitter or who's who's

03:07:44.380 on the side of convenience at all times um the babbling tongue will often be its its own doom

03:07:53.160 and so i i've taken this stanza two ways one is that you know if you are um kind of always running

03:08:00.720 your mouth um i mean i guess it is it's like it's like writing your mouth is writing checks that

03:08:08.080 you're asking cash or you can't you know check and it's um it is in this sense but it also i

03:08:16.480 think does a thing where deception and in particular deception in order to avoid conflict

03:08:24.400 if you're over here you know you know there's somebody talking ill about another group and

03:08:30.240 And you're like, oh, yeah, yeah. And then you go to that group and they're, you know, talking ill about that.

03:08:34.560 Oh, yeah, yeah. And somewhere in the middle there, you're going to they're going to find out that you're just you're not particularly an ally to anyone.

03:08:41.940 And, you know, you're kind of wish washy and that that ends up garnering you enemies.

03:08:46.460 It's better to just be forthright and, you know, stay your side and hold loyal to to to the one you're ill that your tongue can cannot, you know,

03:08:58.720 weave you into anything if you're not playing the game of doing all this deception and things like

03:09:06.700 that. I think that a lot of that is, it's harder work than people realize, or they often do it

03:09:11.680 just because they're trying to avoid something, and it ends up getting them in trouble.

03:09:21.780 Let's hit the final one here, because I do have something to say about it, but I think it is,

03:09:28.720 equally applies to you know these last couple of them

03:09:33.600 so stanza 30 in mockery no one a man shall hold although he fair to the feast

03:09:41.680 wise seems seems one oft if not he is asked and safely he sits dry skinned

03:09:49.920 so the structure of that one is especially the dry skinned part um is more or less like that

03:10:00.240 he's not being pelted by rain that he's not being you know challenged or or criticized or

03:10:06.320 or scorned so you know in my in mockery no one a man shall hold although he fared to the feast

03:10:12.940 it's again is you cannot throw poison at someone who's showing up you could perhaps criticize or

03:10:21.880 critique i would say critique um but they're showing up they're doing things they're maintaining

03:10:28.720 and uh and mocking them doesn't really do that much good um you know the wise seem off one is

03:10:39.720 off if not he is asked so if he's never questioned if he's never brought to um you know to bear on

03:10:46.600 on the intelligence um you know it's it's there's no criticism there's no one uh you know throwing

03:10:55.880 uh suffering at them they're not out there you know kind of slinging it and getting pelted by

03:11:01.320 the rain um let's say again it's it's easy to to call out from your window and say you know like

03:11:07.000 that person's but at least they're showing up at least they're trying they're moving forward they're

03:11:13.000 doing better while you're in the house at the armchair on the computer or in the basement

03:11:21.080 so things you know

03:11:25.400 it's a perfectly good option a lot of the time you just sit down and shut up if you don't have

03:11:30.200 anything valuable to add um so often people clumsily stumble into situations where they

03:11:40.280 get themselves in trouble because they can't abide silence or stillness but they think they

03:11:45.000 need to be the center of attention everybody's not a special snowflake sometimes you can just

03:11:51.880 sit there and you know say thank you when somebody hands you something and and listen

03:11:59.480 and absorb and uh you find the people that that always need to immerse themselves in the middle

03:12:07.240 of the conversation that all of you know the last six seven stanzas have been about

03:12:15.800 no if you open your mouth on something you don't know about

03:12:19.480 then you're digging yourself a hole you're creating an opportunity for

03:12:24.600 you to become a laughing stock and for you to lose face when you don't need to so uh you know

03:12:34.200 sometimes you don't need to say anything if nobody's asking you

03:12:39.300 everybody thinks that their opinion is is valuable and everybody has you know an equally

03:12:45.660 valuable opinion they don't there's a lot of times where your opinion doesn't matter nobody

03:12:51.040 asked you. And that's sometimes hard for people, you know, sometimes people retract within

03:12:59.800 themselves and social circumstances, because they don't feel comfortable. And sometimes they

03:13:05.140 overspeak, they're not comfortable with the silence. So they just go and stream of consciousness,

03:13:11.880 this, dig themselves into a uncomfortable situation. So with that, we're going to call

03:13:21.440 that good for our have them all verses tonight. We'll pick up more on that next week. We look

03:13:27.760 forward to it. I don't know how many shows this will take, but we will do as many as we need to.

03:13:32.760 It's really important. And I think we're much better served going through it slowly and thoroughly

03:13:40.200 have been rushing through things but we do have um we do have some questions folks have asked

03:13:55.560 first one uh

03:14:02.440 so from trent um and there's a couple just you know how you doing somebody asked about a national

03:14:09.400 event all of those things were kind of taken care of in the chat so the first question that's

03:14:14.200 you know for an answer really from from swan and i on this also harry gothe and witness fawn

03:14:20.440 do you each have a favorite stanza which one is it and why

03:14:28.280 no i don't because there are a lot that are really good that

03:14:33.640 stand out and that are really useful at different times

03:14:39.400 Two of my favorites are two or three of my favorites we went over tonight.

03:14:51.020 The one about how a king's son should be bold to battle and be glad up until his death.

03:15:03.420 That one is always meaningful to me.

03:15:06.140 um the one about you know the coward can can try to hide from battle but he'll find no peace in old

03:15:14.920 age is meaningful to me and the uh the one about not um staying up all night stressing over things

03:15:24.760 is also a particularly meaningful one that I go back to

03:15:30.000 um for different reasons but those those are just some there's there's too many to choose one

03:15:38.460 um what about you swan um i mean overall that's really hard to say i think like different times

03:15:50.380 in my life i've had favorites but they were because it was they were applicable to the to

03:15:55.780 the moment but um i think out of the ones that we talked about today my absolute favorite is 19.

03:16:01.780 is you know it's it's you know don't spurn the horn but be sparing with it and you know uh

03:16:10.580 say what you need to say forthright but you know it's again it's you can lead your tongue

03:16:19.300 could lead you into rudeness by you know getting lost and i i i think that that is really

03:16:28.020 i don't know perhaps one that i've learned the most from and it becomes a glaring

03:16:34.820 signpost when i when i see um others uh perhaps do it and it's not necessarily a thing where i'm like

03:16:42.580 aha but more like okay duly noted perhaps they're not you know in the right frame of mind at a

03:16:50.180 certain point it's like a threshold for me when i when i see a person who can hold their own even

03:16:56.600 if they are drinking they seem to be very well um said and spoken and they know when to kind of like

03:17:02.720 bow out for the night and say good night that threshold is like a measurement that i definitely

03:17:08.160 um hold people to at at events or when we're meeting together and doing things it's like okay

03:17:14.980 i think this person might even just they might not even know the have them all a lot but they

03:17:22.440 they're subconsciously doing some wise things and i think so 19 is kind of my my favorite i've always

03:17:29.680 just like you know spurn the horn not um but drink and measure that's i don't know poetically

03:17:37.300 it sounds cool so our next question um comes from odyssey what is to be done about the jewish problem

03:17:50.100 so i'd like first i know that we have people with a lot of different ideas about

03:18:02.020 different ethno political realities

03:18:07.300 Honestly, my answer is we can stop focusing on it all the time.

03:18:17.800 It's very easy to look at things that other groups of people do that we don't like or that we would have them do differently or that cause us reasons to stay up at night stressing over stuff.

03:18:34.960 Let's not do that.

03:18:37.300 what we can do best is be self-interested as far as our folk are concerned

03:18:49.460 support our people when we have causes to make ourselves better

03:18:55.060 and to build better things for our folk and spend all of our time and effort on doing that

03:19:02.660 if we all did that none of these other groups of peoples would be able to damage us with the way

03:19:12.160 that they're doing things we would be able to build good things for ourselves and i think

03:19:20.960 that we can all see that if all of our folks stood together we could accomplish anything we wanted

03:19:28.900 And when all of our folk were the closest to being together at different points in history, we saw massive advances in civilization.

03:19:47.540 The more that our folk battled amongst themselves and did not view our folk as a unified entity, but as petty little tribal squabbles over things within our own bigger folk, that's when other groups of people are able to break in.

03:20:13.920 we've seen this um this is a a thing in sociology and anthropology very often empires don't fall

03:20:28.720 because of outside forces they fall because internal forces and internal dissension

03:20:36.960 and when the internal structure breaks then the outside forces can pour in and

03:20:43.920 and take over or assert their own goals

03:20:49.760 at the expense of that bigger culture's goals.

03:20:54.860 And that's what we see with our folk.

03:20:56.500 So I think that the thing to do with any question

03:21:00.440 or concern about other races of people

03:21:02.980 is to take care of our own and make ours strong.

03:21:08.900 that is the best that is the best all the way around it's the only one that any of us have any

03:21:16.660 access to being able to fix and address and it's the one that's going to instill hope and heal

03:21:25.660 the soul sickness that our people suffer from but we can't look outside to do that and put all our

03:21:33.100 problems on other groups of people we have to recognize that we are the source of a great many

03:21:38.500 of our own problems if we realize that we are the ones who are allowing bad things to happen

03:21:46.820 to ourselves we are also the ones that are in the position to fix those things and make things

03:21:52.980 better and that's where i think our focus needs to be do you have anything to add on that's fun

03:21:59.380 i think two things you said super key paramount and i i would i would just add with it is like

03:22:07.380 you said there is um the what we can control and you know the the ideas we could it puts us at a

03:22:17.460 hard spot because a lot of people nowadays when they talk about the folk there is the folk who

03:22:22.820 are in the community and there's folk that are without the community and a lot of times a lot

03:22:27.060 of their talking is again to try to wake people up or make them realize something you know it's

03:22:32.660 and i understand the need for that but that doesn't fix things that puts you in the debate

03:22:40.020 room uh sometimes you know if you're especially if you're viable and you're actually you know

03:22:44.740 saying things of worth and merit if you're bringing up you know uh there's an ethnicity 0.93

03:22:50.260 of people that are continuously um you know doing aggravated things towards us we should 1.00

03:22:56.260 you know our people should know that this is a thing and i i totally get that

03:22:59.540 but that doesn't actually change anything what you should do is on top of perhaps trying to make

03:23:07.860 people aware uh and and consider the way you do it wisely but is that you should let sometimes you

03:23:14.740 should let that go that's all that people are doing is beating that pot and turn around and

03:23:19.060 say okay what are we doing to make ourselves better what are we doing to go forward and

03:23:25.540 that i think is not as easy so that is why a lot of people don't do it or or they get they get

03:23:32.660 sucked into a lot of you know so i that that harkens back to a lot of the points that we've

03:23:40.260 made tonight with our habamal study though it's so easy to bring awareness to something

03:23:49.860 than it is to go out and fix a problem it's very easy to identify bad things in the world or things

03:24:00.380 that are you know counter to our interests in the world it's a much harder thing to actually

03:24:06.860 build something of worth for our people the two are arguably in the same sphere but one

03:24:15.600 actually makes life better for our folk and one doesn't um our next question do you guys or anyone

03:24:28.500 you know have to have them all memorized like how some christians will memorize parts of the bible

03:24:33.740 sections and verses absolutely the entirety like from start to finish i don't know anybody who can

03:24:43.280 do that, I believe they're out there. That's something I'm baffled about. There are people

03:24:48.840 who know their Bibles that well. And I don't just mean, you know, a selection of 20, 30,

03:24:59.160 40, 50 verses that are meaningful to them or that they use in discussion often.

03:25:05.080 There are some people that can, it's hard for me to believe that somebody could memorize it

03:25:11.840 cover to cover but there's some people out there that have vast chunks of their bible like

03:25:19.840 they can go and they have it all memorized and i my mind has never worked that way when it comes

03:25:26.760 to memorization of super specifics like that or like dates it's very that's just not the kind of

03:25:35.400 learner that I am. I don't doubt that we have some people who are wired that way, but that's

03:25:42.480 certainly not me. I think Svahn is certainly closer to that than I am. Svahn, do you have the

03:25:49.440 HALVAMAL memorized or do you know people that do? No, I do not have it memorized. I find too,

03:25:58.160 I go, I have an app on my phone that gives me a daily Halvamal excerpt and I find myself, you know, going back. I found the translation that my mother had given me a long time ago and I was like pouring into that for, you know, just you got to refresh your roots.

03:26:21.980 And I think anybody that perhaps knows everything and memorizes everything, which is a testament to their discipline and their ability.

03:26:31.580 But I like the fact that I don't have it memorized because I'm constantly going back to it.

03:26:38.680 And I sometimes retrospectively, which is even the worst, that's that's the salt in the wound when it's like, oh, my God, that that absolutely applied to something that happened two years ago.

03:26:51.100 and i was ignorant of of that wisdom that was there the whole time um and i think that that's

03:26:59.800 part of the beauty of it um but if somebody memorized it i think that would be great

03:27:04.500 yeah again the application of memorization is is important too um i don't know i think that

03:27:12.160 when people utilize um the halvamal obviously we've had people that try to uh utilize the

03:27:17.940 have them all um against us in in ways or levy things um you know i i like it when people speak

03:27:27.880 about the have them all in relation to applicable things like uh when someone is scornful cowardly

03:27:37.860 uh mocking and and we bring up the have them all with like an essence in mind that perhaps

03:27:45.100 something is rooted in that there are some broad moral statements in the have them all in which we

03:27:51.420 you know a noble soul should act a certain way but you can clearly see too that even though they have

03:27:59.020 cherry picked perhaps maybe one they don't apply a lot of it so that's another thing too is is being

03:28:06.300 able to um kind of consistently go back and forth and uh see where things apply and uh so i call it

03:28:14.940 it's my living, um, research again, every day,

03:28:19.840 an app, even sometimes reading it. And I don't mean to sound like a,

03:28:24.240 like a goodie two-shoe or whatever. It's just,

03:28:27.540 I built this habit of doing it and the have them all. I haven't,

03:28:31.920 I look perhaps even once per day, I will look at the have them all,

03:28:35.720 but I haven't memorized it. And I don't think I ever will.

03:28:39.300 I don't think I ever want to.

03:28:40.560 there's there's really different ways that people's minds are wired and you know i i don't

03:28:50.220 know that i i mean there's clearly some that are ways that people's minds are wired there's clearly

03:28:56.740 some that are much better than others there's obviously a hierarchy there but there's also

03:29:01.360 parallel ones that i don't know that one version's better of than the other as far as the being able

03:29:07.840 to memorize things that way it's never been something that that I've been able to do but

03:29:12.640 like my wife and I are really different that way so when I'm reading a book it takes me a very long

03:29:19.520 time to read there's this whole process of visualization and things when I'm reading

03:29:25.640 but Mandy can digest a book very quickly and it baffles me and sometimes I try to like

03:29:32.900 stump her and think she's not you know really getting the meat of it or what no she seems to

03:29:37.580 be. She's processes information faster while reading than I do. Like a lot of people have 0.99

03:29:45.300 minds like that to where, you know, they can read a book a day and just rip through stuff

03:29:52.020 and listen to stuff on fast forward speed. And I think you process data really, really

03:29:58.020 different. Um, but like Mandy is, is my go-to whenever, and this is the thing as the all

03:30:04.920 here you go through the outstreet folk assembly when i need to find to have them all verse my

03:30:08.940 first step is hey mandy what's that verse about you know whatever and i'll approximate it as

03:30:15.680 closely as i can and she's you know she's my go-to that helps me out on that so you know

03:30:21.380 everybody's a little bit different and just for the record i don't fault christians that have

03:30:25.660 their bible memorized that well i think that's fantastic that they have it speaks well of them

03:30:31.440 as people that they have that much of a commitment to their faith um and i've seen a conversation

03:30:36.860 over in the sidebar about fence sitters um and such i respect somebody that has a sincere faith

03:30:45.440 in something even if it's not something i agree with or or like if they're at least virtuous in

03:30:52.320 their devotion to it and their sincerity those are those are noble characteristics and i can

03:30:59.460 respect that a lot. It's the, you know, the Christians that believe that's literally the

03:31:05.780 words of their God and they never bothered to read it. Those people, I don't know how to wrap 0.99

03:31:10.820 my head around. Folks that have it all super memorized. The one thing that I would caution

03:31:16.620 that Svon mentioned, you know, when you have to choose between them, the

03:31:23.100 literal verbiage is less important than the lesson it's trying to impart

03:31:30.320 it's not just about memorizing words it's about internalizing values and concepts and lessons

03:31:40.120 and that's very much this is wisdom from on high it is wisdom from the high one

03:31:47.120 and we would do well to to heed it and to listen to it and to internalize it and by going back

03:31:54.820 over it there's never a time that i've read through the have them all that i haven't been

03:32:00.720 you know looked at something a different way applied something in a way that i hadn't previously

03:32:08.520 or found something relevant that i hadn't considered to a situation going on in my life

03:32:16.160 It's always good to go. Specifically, I would say our lore in general, but specifically to have them all is always very good to go back over and learn at different stages of your life when you're facing different challenges and it'll speak to you in very different ways, I've found.

03:32:34.900 oh hi this just in five dollars from chris lucat chris thank you we appreciate it

03:32:44.740 svan what is your have them all excerpt of the day app i would like to have it okay i was i saw

03:32:53.440 that come in and i was like no i can so i believe it's called the daily have them all however

03:32:59.160 currently right now my phone is at zero percent so give me a second and I'll be able to absolutely

03:33:12.220 confirm it but I believe it is called the Daily Havamal and it has the Elder Futhark around a

03:33:18.960 Valknaut on it and I'll be able to confirm it in just a second let it get a little bit more but

03:33:27.220 um yeah i believe it's called the daily halvamal i believe that's what it's called as well i'm not

03:33:34.220 sure what verse is is pulled up um yeah the insignia or icon is like tan with a black valk

03:33:42.520 knot on it so i'll i'll give the honest and absolute answer in just a moment

03:33:53.080 okay um in the meantime uh

03:34:01.320 is it not possible making someone your brother can be a mistake like how the gods did with loki

03:34:11.320 and one should be careful with these things and that's back when we uh

03:34:17.640 it was fun when we were talking about folks calling everybody brother

03:34:21.400 like the Hulkster.

03:34:29.000 Yes, this question is great because it is, again, bringing up one of the overarching points of our

03:34:36.080 stories. Not only are they cosmic or allegoric in the minutia of smaller things, they're also

03:34:44.900 to be relatable in like tribal ethos and yes that is absolutely one of the lessons

03:34:53.180 um it's again it's it's not mentioned as to when or how or in what conditions uh lord

03:35:02.100 woven made blood brotherhood with um the kinslayer but that that blood brother

03:35:10.220 became a kinslayer because he was the blood brother and slayed his brother's son and as

03:35:18.160 being a blood brother that absolutely constitutes it as kinslay because once that was made

03:35:24.960 um that brotherhood has to be viable in the especially if we're talking about cultural

03:35:31.740 nuances back then if you became a blood brother all that applied to you as if you were

03:35:36.720 born of the same mother including kinslaying and i think that that's one of the beauties

03:35:45.460 of our stories is that um was that done i you know i i don't know i i want to i don't want to

03:35:54.560 speak out of turn in this in the idea of saying like but like it did lord well then

03:35:59.820 is it known to do it on purpose because of that caveat it's such a cool thing to think about

03:36:09.160 um but ultimately the stories that's what it is teaching is that you have to be careful about who

03:36:14.560 you who you bring into your folk um who you bring into your into your realm who you align with

03:36:21.480 and uh and and what level of alignment you have with them and that's and that could be a reflection

03:36:28.640 of tribal ethos of the time when we talk about skadi when we talk about gerder when we talk

03:36:33.600 about render when we talk about grither and all of their alignments towards joining the gods

03:36:42.080 it's very different than like say for instance the the situation with loki um and how they align and

03:36:49.360 what those constitute as things i think that's really important to to pay attention to you know

03:36:54.880 know i think there's two concepts here um one is that idea of formal blood brotherhood or you know

03:37:06.240 treating someone as a brother in a big way in a substantial way and i think that's

03:37:18.320 that's one of those challenges we don't want to be isolated we want to be part of community and

03:37:23.440 we want to have people in our lives that are important to us but doing that with wisdom and

03:37:31.120 with your eyes open and with awareness and not just willy-nilly and casually treating

03:37:40.880 close relationships with the gravity that they deserve i think that we are wise to

03:37:48.960 To be cautious in having, you know, have lots of acquaintances, but few friends, you know, or have lots of friends, perhaps, but few people you call brother, few people that you treat as your family.

03:38:05.840 And really be discerning about that.

03:38:07.980 And I think that's part of it.

03:38:09.100 i think letting you know unworthy people into your inner inner guard is you know obviously

03:38:17.740 to be advised against i don't think there's any perfect method of making that happen i think

03:38:25.100 you know most of us that have built relationships in our life have been betrayed by people very

03:38:31.260 close to us unfortunately and that's a tragedy but i think it's part of you know adulthood in

03:38:38.780 in the world that we live in i think the other part of the question is the casual use of the

03:38:45.660 term brother and i do that all the time amongst the afa and amongst our spiritual community

03:38:57.020 because i think it speaks to the fact that we're building a spiritual family

03:39:01.740 But I don't think we should let that, you know, cloud us or think something's true that isn't.

03:39:10.900 But, yeah, I like to refer to, you know, fellow members of the AFA as brothers and sisters.

03:39:17.600 I think that's part of the AFA family that we're trying to build.

03:39:22.800 um i think a lot of people uh you know i've people pick stuff to get upset about um sometimes

03:39:33.240 when people find this if somebody's not also true or not whatever and calls them brother they get

03:39:39.080 all indignant the end of the day it's a nice thing somebody's saying and there's no you know

03:39:44.740 no reason to have a negative response to it what it means is they see something in you that they're

03:39:50.540 trying to associate with and feel kinship with and ultimately it's complimentary but

03:39:59.260 just because somebody says brother doesn't it shouldn't mean that that automatically lets

03:40:06.540 you take down all of your walls and all your precautions one of the biggest you know themes

03:40:12.540 of the have them all is to keep your head on a swivel keep your awareness about you

03:40:16.380 um as we get further and it talks more about relationships it'll have a lot more advice

03:40:23.680 to you know the have them all has a lot more advice for us i look forward to that one in future weeks

03:40:29.780 um and then what's the verse that says something about no one is good is so good that no fault

03:40:40.780 is in them, or so bad as to be good for nothing. Everyone is known by haves or has both within

03:40:50.100 them. Svon, are you familiar with what verse he is referring to?

03:40:53.780 Well, and I started looking because the way he's wording it is constructed very much like

03:40:58.820 one of, it isn't my favorite, but it is one of the really, really good ones is verse number 39,

03:41:07.200 um uh where it's um i never met a man so poor that he he uh i met never met a man so rich that

03:41:16.920 he could not accept a gift and i never met a man so poor that he could not ask for what he rightly

03:41:22.300 deserved and so it has that mirroring in the in the stanza but the one about uh i've never met a

03:41:29.340 man, you know, there is something there, but I, I think it's that he's, there's never a good man

03:41:36.880 free of faults and never a bad man of no worth. And that's where I'm actually, I'm looking. And

03:41:43.900 my biggest fear is like, you know, that I would skip over it because, you know, kind of processing

03:41:49.000 through them this fast, but I'm currently looking, so I don't have the exact one. And I went to 39

03:41:57.620 because of the way it was worded and now i'm

03:42:04.740 yeah that was so that was going to be my go-to and that's 71 um talks about how but that's not

03:42:13.140 really about a balance between good and evil it's more of a people with you know people who are

03:42:21.380 disabled or deficient still have worth and value and can still find things to do that contribute

03:42:27.620 to the success of their folk and it juxtaposes that with how you know but once you're dead you

03:42:35.060 can't do that um that as long as you still have the breath of life in you there's things in this

03:42:41.780 world you can do to benefit your people and that's um that's another one i find myself going to

03:42:49.780 often um for uh

03:42:57.780 um yeah it's just one that i find myself referencing in conversation um and that's uh

03:43:12.180 in in the translation we're reading the knight in bellows it's the lame rides a horse the

03:43:17.140 endless is urgemen the deaf in battle is bold the blind man is better than one that is burned

03:43:26.820 no good can come from a corpse and that one i i use you know frequently when just in in counseling 0.99

03:43:36.660 or in dealing with folks but i don't think that's the one you're after so maybe we will hit on one

03:43:45.140 that is a little bit closer in the upcoming weeks i appreciate you guys being here tonight and

03:43:52.020 participating with us swan as always i uh it's a treat to have you on and sharing your wisdom with

03:43:59.780 folks everyone looks very forward to these episodes that you're on so thank you for being here thank

03:44:06.020 you for having i've been i've been down and out for the last couple days with an illness so this

03:44:10.180 was just so cool to kind of get back and feel feeling better and feeling excited and having

03:44:18.980 good conversation so thank you well good and we will pick up at verse 31 next week so

03:44:31.300 please join us please get your friends get anybody else who should be joining us to join us on that

03:44:36.980 and we'll look forward to talking to you then until next week hail the gods hail the folk 0.89

03:44:42.500 L-E-A-F-A. Remember that victory never sleeps. Good night, everybody. 0.95

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Asatru Folk Assembly - February 01, 2024

1⧸31⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 82 - Hávamál, Part 1

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