Asatru Folk Assembly - 1⧸8⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 131 - Living Trú

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00:03:00.000 Hello, and welcome to another exciting edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:13.960 Tonight, I am joined by Goathe Trent East, and we're going to...

00:03:22.300 Well, all right, take it back for a sec.

00:03:24.860 Um, we've gotten a lot of requests recently for some episodes on

00:03:32.640 like real life application of things. A lot of people want to know how to apply our faith

00:03:44.280 in their everyday life. And I think some of that extends to, to ritual and to, you know,

00:03:50.720 altar work and ancestor veneration and things like that and those are really good topics

00:03:58.160 but what i think is really important and is often confused by

00:04:08.240 often confused by folk and i think more so in the day and age that we live in is taking our values

00:04:15.680 and not just giving them lip service but finding ways to apply them in real world situations

00:04:29.280 when it's not in the realm of theory and it's in the realm of you know what do you do

00:04:36.480 and i think that's valuable for everybody i think that's probably a really valuable thing for anyone

00:04:41.040 in any faith is to examine their values and what that looks like in their lives and not just in

00:04:48.100 their places of worship. But before we get cracking on it today, trying to think of any updates I've

00:04:57.360 got for you. Charming of the Plow at Njortsoff is coming up in February. It's going to be

00:05:07.060 spectacular. Looking forward to seeing y'all there. That's February 21st through the 23rd.

00:05:15.240 Yords Hof is our newest Hof. It is in White Springs, Florida. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful

00:05:24.420 setting. It's a nice spot with amazing people. It's got a lot of really good energy there.

00:05:31.700 it's going to be big we've got people coming around from far and wide in the new yorkshof

00:05:39.680 district but also we've got folks showing up from outside the district my family will be there i

00:05:46.400 will be there i'm very excited to see all of you there if you can make it if you're interested

00:05:50.760 please contact anyone in the afa you want to but your local folk builder will get you there

00:05:57.860 go the east here we'll get you there I'll get you set up if you let us know and we can we can make

00:06:05.740 that happen absolutely want to see all our members there but if you haven't joined yet this is a

00:06:10.800 really good opportunity to to check it out and see what we're all about at one of our premier events

00:06:16.260 so if that's something you'd like to do please let us know and we can see about making that happen

00:06:21.600 it really is getting to that point time is going by quick but I also should talk about

00:06:32.880 Ostara coming up at Thorshoff Nick quick draw with the dates on that I appreciate that that's

00:06:42.020 going to be March 21st through the 23rd that's at Thorshoff in Linden North Carolina

00:06:47.460 um yeah it's new year snuck up on me but we got a lot of really cool things that we're doing for

00:06:55.720 anybody that doesn't know or miss the memo this we are celebrating all year long the 30th anniversary

00:07:01.500 of the ask true folk assembly um the afa was solidified over the yule the yule at the tail

00:07:11.340 into 1994. And we came out swinging in 95 at the start of the year being the dawn of the

00:07:18.980 Oustrew Focusing. So got 30 years in, they have been tremendous. I am in the capacity that I can

00:07:28.500 say we a lot. Unfortunately, I was not there when I was 14 years old. And this was all starting out.

00:07:35.600 I didn't know it was a thing.

00:07:36.720 I did not find the AFA until we were a few years into it there.

00:07:42.540 Didn't know about the AFA until it was, I think, six years old when I first heard it.

00:07:49.720 But we've got an amazing history.

00:07:52.360 We're trying to celebrate that all year long.

00:07:54.920 And we are building on a tremendous foundation going into the next 30 years here.

00:08:01.200 And there's a lot of really cool stuff for us to do.

00:08:03.360 and it's stuff that we should be doing together.

00:08:05.900 So I think this is as good a time as any while I'm doing plugs.

00:08:09.500 If you're listening to this broadcast and you agree with us

00:08:12.740 and you are a heterosexual white person 0.64

00:08:15.740 that would like to come home to your ancestral gods, 0.98

00:08:19.480 now is the time.

00:08:21.120 It is an auspicious time.

00:08:23.500 It's a cool time to get involved in the AFA

00:08:25.640 because we are at a point in Ocetru's recent development

00:08:30.380 to where a motivated individual or a group of individuals can accomplish quite a bit

00:08:37.660 and really make a difference.

00:08:39.780 We're in a time where we are laying foundations for generations to come,

00:08:46.500 and we want all of you guys helping.

00:08:50.640 We can accomplish a lot more when we are working together,

00:08:55.460 but we've got a lot going on.

00:08:57.480 We'd love for you to be part of it, so check it out.

00:09:00.160 come to one of the events this year uh go to our website sign up join at runestone.org

00:09:06.240 if you ever have any questions talk to one of our folk builders if you have any questions

00:09:11.040 you should also talk to us here on victory never sleeps vns at runestone.org you can email a

00:09:17.200 question at any time if something comes to you you know other than when this is going live we'd be

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00:09:36.480 but that's okay we'll we'll answer most all of them um but we're we're eager to hear from you 0.97

00:09:42.160 guys and that all certainly goes for tonight's broadcast we are being simultaneously this video

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00:10:31.040 ask anything that you want and like i said if you got something and you're catching this later

00:10:35.680 we will get to it the following week um yeah that said uh

00:10:43.040 Uh, at the dawning of this year, how are, how are the East doing?

00:10:52.240 Oh, we're doing great. Um, our son is due in April, April 18th.

00:10:58.360 Good birthday to have. We'll see if that actually ends up being the date, but you know, um,

00:11:04.240 Jim's going well. Uh, I think I messed up my knee doing squats about an hour ago.

00:11:09.400 we'll see how that turns out uh otherwise though things are great how about the flavels um the

00:11:16.420 the gym gets rough gym gets rough i wish i had a cooler story anybody who is listening to this

00:11:21.940 podcast i have i have a black eye i've got some some some battle damage under my under my right

00:11:30.340 eye gotta always pay attention when you're in the gym even even if you've been doing it for a few

00:11:35.780 decades. I was doing almost full stack on each side of, we've got like a dual arm,

00:11:43.340 standalone cable crossover machine. Trouble is, the weight I was pushing is heavier than I am,

00:11:52.040 so I have to brace myself against something to be able to push it down. So that means I put my foot

00:11:57.020 back up against the machine. Conspicuously close to some pedals that you press to release the arm

00:12:04.760 so you can move it apparently i hit one of those pedals and punched myself in the face with either

00:12:11.820 the handle or my hand or whatever but i rocked myself pretty good i didn't realize it at the

00:12:17.560 time but i was nauseous and like spaced out for the rest of the afternoon so i think i concussed

00:12:25.460 myself. But that's been lifting good for about 23 years now. I've got like, I think this is my

00:12:38.760 third injury that I've had. So I'm pretty fortunate and it's not that bad. I just look a little bit

00:12:46.080 funky. That's not a bad track record. No, not at all. Not at all. And early on when I first

00:12:53.380 started, I was not necessarily using, using a lot of wisdom. So I think I made it out. All right.

00:13:01.060 Uh, GW Farnsworth with $5 or five, uh, coffees, $25 donation. Thank you so much.

00:13:07.480 You are very regular with your generosity and it is much appreciated.

00:13:12.220 So we've got a couple of questions coming in, and I wanted to first lay a little bit of the groundwork.

00:13:29.720 Actually, Trent, will you set us up?

00:13:35.020 uh sure so the backstory i guess y'all saragothy texted me at 4 p.m maybe and said

00:13:47.800 you want to do vns tonight and i said sure what's the subject and he took a long time getting back

00:13:52.340 to me uh and said commitment truth and loyalty or something along those lines so uh setting us up

00:14:02.840 But it's, in all seriousness, it's about living Al-Satru, basically.

00:14:07.960 It's, as the episode is titled, I believe, living true, living with troth, living with loyalty to your folk, to the Aesir, and to yourself, really. 0.81

00:14:20.520 Following the ten noble virtues and being a shining beacon of our faith and of our people.

00:14:26.900 And in a way, you know, when you wear the hammer, you are representing our gods to an extent.

00:14:34.180 And so it's living in accordance with that, living how you should when you practice this faith.

00:14:40.200 So there's a lot of places we can go with that, and I'm sure we will.

00:14:44.920 But what I really want to hammer down on this one is living true with, what did I say, I had something in the title of this, anybody looking at it, but basically talking about loyalty and commitment and the various things that, I think trough loyalty commitment is what I had.

00:15:11.480 And that value of either of those things writ large, that bigger loyalty, fidelity is one of our noble virtues.

00:15:27.900 I think the different words that are synonyms for that quality apply to, we tend to compartmentalize this to different pieces of our lives.

00:15:39.280 but the principle and the value extends beyond all of that and it's a way of being it's a way

00:15:47.280 of defining oneself um so the word outs are true it breaks down and it means you know true to the

00:15:57.140 icier and you'll get a lot of people that say it means belief in the icier and it does and it's

00:16:05.540 come to mean in modern Icelandic, like religious, like a specifically a religious belief or

00:16:10.440 religious conviction. But it goes back to the same root concept of, you know, your belief in something

00:16:22.340 is you're having faith in it. Having faith in it means you have trust in it. Your belief in its

00:16:28.860 in its truth isn't about verification or not it's about trustworthiness it's about reliance

00:16:38.100 it's about fidelity and it goes back to our concepts of your word being your bond and

00:16:45.860 making a pledge so it means you know your your pledged loyalty or your devotion to something

00:16:52.100 um it is in a lot of root words and root concepts when we talk about marriages

00:17:00.120 also when we talk about you know different um military or national oathing

00:17:08.100 um any of that oathing process goes back to these concepts and a couple of things that i wanted to

00:17:18.640 set up, and we'll answer any and all questions tonight, and we'll take it into, you know, more

00:17:22.540 specific things, and that's really going to be some meat and potatoes of the show. If you guys

00:17:27.840 have some good questions, we can apply it in a lot of different situations. Getting out what it is,

00:17:34.780 I think we all know, but this is kind of the point of the program, and I ran into this recently with

00:17:40.720 people that, you know, you learn that it's always good to refresh these concepts, because I think

00:17:47.380 that all too often we see ausitru in the light of history or um and i don't say this

00:17:57.540 disparagingly but in like this fantasy world where it's dragons and chain mail and swords

00:18:06.820 and stuff and i don't think we often enough think about it in your day-to-day existence

00:18:13.300 in interacting with your family and interacting with your employers

00:18:16.820 in interacting with people that you're involved with in a number of different dealings in your life

00:18:26.180 your loyalty to the gods your loyalty to those around you your adherence to your word

00:18:35.300 and the oaths that you make those are things that a lot of people have trouble

00:18:44.900 applying in their real life and i think that our brain is a

00:18:51.700 our brain is a very elastic thing and it is never more so than when we find ourselves wanting to

00:18:59.380 justify bad behavior. We are capable of seemingly infinite mental gymnastics to come up with a

00:19:08.680 reason that, no, but in this case, this is the exception. Or no, no, I get you, I get you, but

00:19:14.420 this is different, this is different. And I think we can say that about literally any situation that

00:19:21.980 comes up to try to make ourselves feel better. So that's one of the reasons I wanted to talk

00:19:26.800 about it because it's so fundamental to our worldview, to our value system, but also just to

00:19:31.920 what is also true. It's being loyal and having trough with the ISEA.

00:19:41.920 So that is kind of a setup and we'll take it to a number of different scenarios here,

00:19:49.720 but I want to see what people are, what we've got going on or what people are

00:19:54.520 asking, or if anything is moving us a direction.

00:20:04.600 And we will get to some of the questions that are a little bit less directly related.

00:20:09.220 We're happy to answer any of you guys' questions tonight.

00:20:11.780 So, one thing that is, Trent, what, how would you express what it means to demonstrate your trough to the ISEAR?

00:20:34.960 uh attending afa events is one and if you can't for whatever reason you make sure to honor the

00:20:46.360 ice here in bloat uh you can have a little family stumble if need be you can simply give them

00:20:54.080 offerings and speak to them uh another one a big one that i like to stress is wearing your hammer

00:21:01.120 outside your shirt you know unless it's some kind of workplace safety hazard um if people

00:21:07.600 ask you what it is you tell them if they ask what you were doing for christmas you can do as

00:21:14.160 witness fawn suggested and say oh for yule my family did this it's being open and up front and

00:21:21.360 proud of your loyalty to the ice here and also i think it is learning to use verbiage that

00:21:30.340 a lot of us are learning not to use verbiage that a lot of us use when we're first starting out

00:21:35.260 so uh when i first became alsatru i described myself as a norse pagan and that made me cringe

00:21:43.000 a little just saying that so uh but i did that because that felt accessible i was kind of

00:21:49.680 describing our faith on other people's terms and that is a mistake in my opinion uh if you do that

00:21:58.520 I get why you're doing it, but I would encourage you to call it Ausatru, and then you can explain what it is from there, but that is part of it, because Norse pagan is, it doesn't fully encapsulate what all Ausatru is, whereas Ausatru does.

00:22:17.240 it is loyalty to the I seer. So, and to summarize, I guess it's using correct and respectful and

00:22:25.420 pious vocabulary and verbiage. It's wearing your hammer proudly. It's being also true openly.

00:22:32.960 If somebody asks why you're taking a weekend off, let's say February 21st, the 23rd and go into

00:22:40.540 Florida, don't, you know, don't just say, well, I'm going to see family as true as that may be.

00:22:46.000 say, I'm going to a church event, or you could say, I'm going to the Alistair Folk Assembly's

00:22:51.420 Charm of the Plow event at Muertzhof. You know, you can be as specific as you like, but at least

00:22:56.260 tell them it is a religious function. So a couple of things. First, you can keep going,

00:23:05.140 and I'm sure you would, but there's a couple of things that you mentioned that I think are

00:23:10.260 really important to hit on. And it's something to realize about this episode and what we're

00:23:17.160 trying to cover today. Loyalty is good. I think if we said that, everybody would be like, yay,

00:23:23.760 loyalty. And we all understand that as a vagary. Certainly it is. We all know that that's something

00:23:31.000 we're supposed to say is good. But putting flesh on that and making that real is something that

00:23:39.740 is hard for folks and for a variety of reasons. It's hard for some people because they are

00:23:44.860 cowardly by nature, but it's hard for other people because sometimes, like in a number of

00:23:50.000 things Trent just said, sometimes it's just awkward or you're not used to it or you're not

00:23:55.880 in the habit of it or it's easier to just, you know, you don't want to have a 15-minute

00:24:01.680 conversation with this guy that asks you questions, so you just give him something

00:24:06.240 and go about your business one thing that i want to stress loyalty is not merely the absence of

00:24:15.280 disloyalty and i think a lot of people sometimes make that mistake they see it as a passive trade

00:24:23.520 that's like well i got trends back if anything bad happens and that's the extent of loyalty

00:24:30.960 loyalty isn't just responding to the call if something emergency happens it's an active

00:24:42.300 promotion of another person's best interest it is a bonding of yourself and your

00:24:52.800 things that you value and place value upon extending to the success of someone or something else

00:25:03.040 you attach yourself to someone or something in a way to where you rise and fall with that thing

00:25:13.960 and they rise and fall with you part of our trough to the iser is us representing them in midgard

00:25:21.360 and elevating them as much as we can,

00:25:26.660 finding spots to help build their fame

00:25:30.160 and not only restore them to their rightful place

00:25:34.760 in the minds and hearts of our people,

00:25:40.000 but to exceed that and to raise them yet further.

00:25:46.120 And all of those things sound really lofty,

00:25:48.760 but as simple as if you're in a place of place of business and your co-workers wear their crucifix

00:25:57.640 wear your hammer

00:26:01.320 don't just feel okay wearing your hammer if you look around and you see crosses make sure they

00:26:06.840 see your hammer if people are talking about what they are doing during their holidays and

00:26:13.160 And Jamal's talking about Kwanzaa and, you know, Shmooley's talking about Hanukkah and whatever's over there talking about Christmas and whatever.

00:26:24.600 Don't just keep your head down and nod and, you know, sip some eggnog.

00:26:29.920 Talk about you will be proud of what you're doing.

00:26:33.800 I mentioned this, I think, on the last broadcast, but there's people that.

00:26:37.820 i can imagine in particular families that's going to be really offensive

00:26:47.600 or in certain scenarios certain places for the vast majority of us in the united states in our

00:26:55.260 day-to-day life with co-workers or people at the gym or at the store or at wherever you're going

00:27:00.760 to find them it's at your worst normal outcome is they're just gonna find it odd a lot of people

00:27:13.820 will find it interesting and be mildly curious other people will just make note of oh you don't

00:27:21.540 celebrate christmas oh no but you see well so you don't do and you can get in the whole conversation

00:27:28.520 of what that is, it opens doors, it opens a conversation, but at the bare minimum, it lets

00:27:33.480 people know this is a thing, and I think all too often, something else about loyalty is it's

00:27:43.300 advancing the cause in the long term with, I want to say with cost to yourself, but not

00:27:58.280 always, but with the potential of cost to yourself. A big part of loyalty is you being

00:28:09.260 awkward and dealing with something awkward so that it's not awkward when your children deal with it

00:28:16.300 um you being uncomfortable in something that's unknown but you want to stand true and loyal to

00:28:23.900 the gods then the next guy that comes through your place of business will have it a lot easier

00:28:30.700 when the boss asks them something about alsatru or something about the afa

00:28:35.820 you being willing to stand proudly for what you do sets a precedent and it sets a tone for those

00:28:43.860 that come to follow you and it blazes a trail for them and that's part of your loyalty to both to

00:28:49.440 the icer and to the austral folk assembly your proud membership of the austral folk assembly

00:28:56.520 is a demonstration of your troth to the icer if you're like secret austral but you disavow and

00:29:05.280 you quit the AFA because you get scared because somebody looked at you funny in the work parking

00:29:09.700 lot. That's pretend. That's not loyalty. But people will tell themselves whatever they want

00:29:19.860 to, to feel better about it or to thump their chest. But that's not what it's about. Another

00:29:27.160 thing I wanted to mention about loyalty before I move on to some different pieces of it is

00:29:32.120 let's go ahead and see where the conversation takes us

00:29:41.080 there's literally

00:29:42.840 infinite ways that you can apply

00:29:46.720 loyalty

00:29:48.740 and this isn't about that

00:29:52.260 it's about ingraining it in your character

00:29:54.340 to where you recognize it

00:29:57.100 when the opportunity presents itself

00:29:58.940 and that you get the gravity and the concept

00:30:02.120 so what else we got going on

00:30:06.620 oh we got a couple more donations

00:30:13.740 Aussie Coleman Miller the fourth

00:30:17.180 bought us three coffees

00:30:18.600 it's a $15 donation

00:30:19.960 thank you so much

00:30:20.960 we appreciate it

00:30:22.680 and Jake from Fresno

00:30:25.360 bought us two coffees

00:30:28.360 hail the gods

00:30:29.720 hail the folk

00:30:31.280 Hail the AFA. Also, Aussie said, hail the gods, hail the folk, hail the AFA.

00:30:38.260 Appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. Appreciate all of you guys that have been so generous to us.

00:30:45.960 Looking over in the side. So we're going to front load with a number of loyalty things here. I know

00:30:54.160 we have a couple of questions that are sort of unrelated, but we will absolutely go where the

00:30:59.080 conversation takes us once, I don't know, once I get done ranting about loyalty. But

00:31:05.280 so I've talked about your AFA membership, and you're proudly

00:31:13.980 not hiding who you are and displaying the things that you believe in. But I think something that's

00:31:22.780 fundamental to that that i wanted to bring up is that in order for you to be loyal to something

00:31:30.460 you have to actually believe in it and i think that i've seen a change within my lifetime here

00:31:38.620 in the united states and we have an international audience and an audience that's certainly

00:31:43.340 nationwide in the united states and i think it works different regionally but you know i've been

00:31:49.500 to uh i was talking to some of our swedish members when i was in sweden a few years back

00:31:56.620 and scandinavia and much of europe has been largely secular uh for

00:32:07.900 four generations now or so since you know

00:32:11.500 i don't know like 1920s or so you have a big movement away from religiosity in europe

00:32:21.420 you didn't have that in the united states until relatively recently um

00:32:27.820 i'm i was born in 1981 and when i was coming up and i was in alaska so in the south it was

00:32:33.580 much more than this but certainly when i where i was you know about half the kids were church going

00:32:39.260 kids you had a number of the other half that wasn't that would still go to church on uh on

00:32:46.060 like holidays and were you know in some way religious but you had about half that were regular

00:32:54.460 practitioners of their faith and you know typically where i was it was some kind of a

00:33:00.380 protestant christianity but that was you know at least once a week if not more that was what they

00:33:06.860 did it was a big part of their life it was a big part of part of things i don't think we have the

00:33:12.060 same demographic that finds the out the the afa now we get a lot of people that don't have any

00:33:21.340 connection with practicing religion so it doesn't come as easily to them the idea of piety of

00:33:30.380 belief in divinities and i don't say this to say that they're doing anything dishonestly i don't

00:33:36.140 think it's that at all i just think it takes a while for that to get ingrained in their habits

00:33:41.420 and the way they conceive the world um have you noticed that trent uh yeah for sure so uh

00:33:53.020 you mentioned you were born in 1981 i was born in 2009 just kidding 1997 and uh you know here in

00:34:00.140 in georgia yeah okay whatever um ruined my whole train of thought anyway i'm in georgia which is

00:34:12.620 the bible belt uh my granny east that many of you have heard me hail at stumble was an old school

00:34:18.040 southern baptist i remember she wouldn't let me watch pokemon because she thought it was devil

00:34:22.080 worship somehow for example that's how religious the this whole area was until maybe uh maybe

00:34:29.960 15 years ago, 20 or so, everybody pretty much here went to church. They didn't all like it.

00:34:36.620 They weren't all super devout, of course, but they all went to church. And even still, there's

00:34:42.220 many people here consider themselves like a proud Christian, and it's not a big part of

00:34:49.100 their personality like Alcetru is for myself or the Altera Gothi or many of you. But it was still

00:34:55.860 a thing they at least claimed proudly uh and now it's shifting even here it's shifting more

00:35:02.900 you know away from that but it's certainly not as bad as it probably is in california or

00:35:10.180 or sweden as you mentioned it uh that and i was talking to a new swedish member about this kind

00:35:19.180 the other day he um he sort of described it as a worship of materialism almost like loyalty

00:35:27.420 doesn't need to exist in this materialistic worldview because you have objects you have

00:35:36.420 things you have a nice tv or whatever and the tv will tell you what to think and so you don't need

00:35:41.680 to have loyalty to anything because it's all right there for you you know it

00:35:46.600 like i said lost my train of thought i don't remember where exactly i was going with it

00:35:53.380 but it's this materialism we're moving towards essentially is what's a big part of what's

00:36:00.420 killing the idea of loyalty to something something more uh sacred rather than profane

00:36:07.540 we're kind of attaching ourselves more to the the mundane rather than the cosmic

00:36:11.800 Heck, something that I've noticed about people of faith, and I think that people on our side tend to, I don't know, we get nasty with the Christians over certain things, and sometimes I don't think those are often necessarily fair.

00:36:32.060 A lot of people think that Christians behave piously because of a fear of punishment, fear of hell, fear of damnation. 1.00

00:36:43.400 I think that there was a time that that was true.

00:36:48.280 I don't, and I'm sure this depends on the individual and on their church and their particular doctrine as it revolves around those things.

00:36:58.920 But what I have seen much more often is genuine people that believe that their God is aware of their behavior, of their actions, of what they're doing, and they're embarrassed if they do something that their God would disapprove of and look down on.

00:37:23.760 they feel guilty they feel bad they feel you know they don't want to let their god down because they

00:37:30.400 are genuinely pious and i think that piety is misplaced but i i certainly have a respect for

00:37:38.640 the thought process and for the genuineness of that expression of that existence

00:37:45.200 I feel that Ausatruar would be much better served if we internalized a similar wanting to make our gods proud of us and considering what they think of, you know, decisions we make and actions we take.

00:38:06.980 And I know all of that should go without saying, but I've asked this to people.

00:38:12.460 They'll give me some excuse about something that sounds kind of weak.

00:38:15.640 I'm like, hold on.

00:38:17.220 If the All-Father was standing here in front of you and you were looking him in the eye, would you say this to him?

00:38:23.600 No, of course not.

00:38:25.080 So you don't think that he's on lead scalp and sees this that's going on.

00:38:33.860 You don't think that our gods are aware of this kind of weakness.

00:38:38.180 And then all of a sudden, it's just, it's not even like an argument.

00:38:42.940 It's like that thought didn't occur.

00:38:45.280 And I think that's the case with a lot of people.

00:38:50.560 I think a lot of us want to believe in the gods.

00:38:56.080 I think a lot of us claim to believe in the gods and do conceptually.

00:39:01.220 But I think far too few of us genuinely think about it in very real terms, and not out of a sense of fear of punishment, but of you want your gods to be proud of you.

00:39:21.540 and you want them to, you know, place value in your manhood or not.

00:39:37.940 Loyalty is a virtue that goes back to the very birth of our folk

00:39:43.260 and in all branches of our faith is one of the most celebrated core aspects of manhood.

00:39:51.540 which, you know, virtue is a reference to.

00:40:00.200 It's a core quality of what defines your value as a man.

00:40:05.960 Loyalty has been that for ever.

00:40:10.700 And so that brings me to a couple of different ways to think of loyalty.

00:40:14.800 Loyalty to our gods is certainly extremely important and paramount.

00:40:20.040 And obviously, you know, a heavy focus of a religious show like this, but loyalty to, you know, loyalty to your comrades, loyalty to people you've made an oath to, loyalty to, you know, depends on the context in a modern sense.

00:40:42.600 One thing I think we all kind of see as self-evident. Society still has institutions that require oaths. Most of the time, those oaths tend to be lip service, unless you want to use it as a chest-thumping thing when you're doing something edgy.

00:41:02.540 uh i've seen a lot of people that i mean we've all seen a lot of politicians no matter where

00:41:09.400 you find yourself politically that take oaths to do certain things and those oaths don't mean

00:41:17.720 anything those oaths are literally like the stuff they give you on a phone contract that's 14 pages

00:41:22.860 long or whatever that you don't look at you just click the yes box i've seen that a lot with

00:41:28.940 military oaths. I've seen that with any of those governing oaths. You see that with most

00:41:39.420 oaths that people take nowadays. That's why we have such a struggle to re-infuse value

00:41:48.660 into the oathing process. Something I wanted to, and I want to extend this also to one of

00:41:57.620 most common oaths that i think most people experience in their life and that's that's

00:42:02.580 wedding vows um because loyalty has a lot to do with that too and not just in terms of

00:42:11.780 sexual fidelity it has a lot more than just that certainly that's involved in it

00:42:18.020 it. But being a supportive spouse that is advocating for the best interest of your

00:42:27.600 partner is hugely important. It's a fundamental aspect of the loyalty that's sworn between

00:42:36.440 husband and wife, but it's something that is very often disregarded. We just focus solely on

00:42:42.760 are you flirting with other dudes or are you sleeping with other dudes but it's not

00:42:48.860 man do you have my back do you support me on things in public do you make sure I look good

00:42:55.040 in public am I making sure you look good if you have something that's important to you am I making

00:42:59.820 sure I show up and you know make you look like a million bucks are you doing that for me those

00:43:07.720 things are extremely important part of that relationship. And I think that sometimes we

00:43:13.460 don't think about loyalty in broad terms. We start thinking about it in very finite,

00:43:19.500 very specific terms that are more legalistic. One of the things that's really important about

00:43:27.980 oaths in our society isn't just the letter of the oath. It's the point of it. It's the

00:43:39.740 concept. It's the spirit of it. It's not... There are other groups of people that are

00:43:49.860 very, very big on finite minutiae and finding loopholes and whatever else, it's not the

00:44:00.920 point of loyalty in an out-of-true context.

00:44:04.160 Loyalty in an out-of-true context is a full-throated, open-hearted acceptance of something open-handed

00:44:14.140 between parties.

00:44:16.000 I mean, it's different if it's a compelled oath by your enemies and you're trying to find a way to get out of it because they're going to shoot you if you don't take an oath.

00:44:23.680 That's a different scenario.

00:44:26.600 But oaths that you're entering into of your own free will because you want to.

00:44:31.520 We're noble people.

00:44:33.640 Our nobility is what has defined our race.

00:44:38.120 To be worthy of that, you enter into something without deviousness in your soul.

00:44:44.180 You enter into something open handed. It's something when a variety of different kind of folk in the Mediterranean, I was told this once by some Danish friends of ours.

00:44:59.120 there's a thing and i forget the word in danish but it translated into like blue eyedness

00:45:08.240 like people in the mediterranean at different tourist locations would laugh

00:45:13.840 at scandinavian tourists blue eyedness meaning that they were gullible you could lie to them 0.54

00:45:20.700 and they would believe you because it's so unconscionable to them that you would try to

00:45:27.620 cheat them or swindle them or lie to them when you're having an exchange it's just not in them

00:45:33.680 to be devious and they mean it as an insult but i find it as you know kind of a beautiful thing 0.99

00:45:40.320 about our folk you know no don't be stupid keep your head on a swivel and look out especially 0.99

00:45:45.580 when you're you know on the road traveling away from your folk but that genuineness and 0.99

00:45:53.960 And adhering to your oath wholeheartedly and because it's something you committed to doing as opposed to just trying to nitpick the exactitude of when you can get out is a real fundamental difference between being a noble person and being somebody who's grimy and beneath the dignity of our folk.

00:46:20.080 and i wanted to you know i'm throwing a lot of things out there we'll see if there's questions

00:46:25.580 or comments on it if there are we'll get to them if not we'll go wherever it goes but i think some

00:46:30.080 of this is worth worth saying and worth mentioning and the other thing that i wanted to say to it

00:46:35.340 is that

00:46:37.360 so we've experienced this with with uh with the afa to put so much of what i wanted to do tonight

00:46:45.140 I was put some flesh on the bones of this.

00:46:48.400 Oh, awesome.

00:46:51.980 Nick found the phrase.

00:46:56.280 Good on you.

00:46:57.100 Yeah, so the point of the oath, the point of any oath,

00:47:10.000 is a commitment to do something even when you don't want to you don't need oaths if everything

00:47:24.260 is you know rainbows and unicorns all the time that's not the point something that we you know

00:47:33.800 have certainly dealt with in our time in the Astro Folk Assembly

00:47:39.140 is people who, you know, are super into thumping their chest 1.00

00:47:43.860 and pretending they're warriors and they take these oaths

00:47:46.860 and then the second they don't like something,

00:47:49.100 the second they're grumpy at somebody else in the AFA,

00:47:51.840 then all of a sudden they want to be released from their oath.

00:47:55.760 No, the whole reason you took an oath is so we could count on you

00:47:59.920 when times were tough so we could count on you when there were people that you got mad at when

00:48:07.640 you're in your feelings or when we're in our feelings or when whatever the point of the oath

00:48:13.200 is you push through those things because you gave your word and you made a commitment and that's

00:48:19.760 what when we find our folk being successful and winning you also find people that are true to

00:48:29.420 their word and that stand by their oaths and that's a defining characteristic when our folk

00:48:35.760 are faltering when we find failure when we find disillusion and down you know downturning of our

00:48:44.500 fortunes you can look around and you can almost always see a direct correlation to people not

00:48:50.500 being true to their word not honoring their commitments not living up to their oaths not

00:48:56.480 living true. So you don't need oaths for the good times. You celebrate oaths in the good times,

00:49:03.100 but the point of the oath is so you stand strong even in strife and in turmoil and when things

00:49:09.520 have a cost. Another thing I want to mention too, I know I said I'd move on to something else and

00:49:13.540 move on a second, but one huge aspect of oath, loyalty, commitment, and troth is that it comes

00:49:26.020 at a cost. It means nothing if it costs you zero. It's so easy to promise. So I'm going

00:49:35.680 to get on something else here in a second, but it's so easy to commit to all kinds of

00:49:42.300 things when there's no cost, when it's not real, when there's no conflict in front of

00:49:46.580 you that's not the point the point of oaths and they're rich in warrior aristocracy and

00:50:00.620 in life or death situation is so that you know when there is a cost this person is willing to

00:50:09.180 pay that cost or risk that cost to fulfill their end of the bargain that agreement is what makes

00:50:18.460 you willing to do the same when that breaks down and is one-sided it's really unfortunate

00:50:24.940 bad things happen but it's very easy to take oaths when there's no consequence

00:50:31.020 and it's very easy seemingly for our folk in this day and age to abandon oaths the second

00:50:39.420 there's a consequence in their place of business in their relationship in their family in

00:50:47.900 dealing with other people that displayed microaggressions towards them um very small

00:50:56.700 things but that's the whole point is to stand against consequence against threat of violence

00:51:09.540 against threat of threat of any kind but threat up until you know violence and death our people

00:51:17.620 took oaths to stand in the shield wall and not break to stand and defend you know their comrades

00:51:24.580 or their king or their chief or whatever against consequence those bonds those fuse that were

00:51:33.620 were woven together through oathing is what kept the line steady and kept people safe

00:51:40.620 it's very easy when one person breaks their oath breaks their loyalty and runs

00:51:46.440 all people do the same i'd like to kind of close this you know my rant off with

00:51:54.200 Um, we all like to get, I don't know, interested, entertained, or maybe even, you know, edified in a different way about the portion in Tacitus where he talks about Bogstonka. 0.88

00:52:10.380 And I think that we're familiar because it is interesting in this day and age with some of the mental illness going around to note that Tacitus mentioned the tribes would, they would bog stomp homosexuals. 0.54

00:52:29.140 But there was two groups of people that they would stomp into the bog as homosexuals and it was shirkers or cowards who ran in the face of the enemy.

00:52:40.380 the reason they did it wasn't a cruelty. 0.99

00:52:45.060 There was other ways to execute people.

00:52:50.060 The idea was they wanted to stomp them into the bog 0.99

00:52:53.700 so that they disappeared from the sight of the folk

00:52:57.340 because the concept was so disgusting

00:53:01.200 that our people didn't want to be reminded that existed amongst us

00:53:05.440 because it was so ignoble.

00:53:07.480 people who would you know make bold oaths over the mead horn and then go out to battle and turn

00:53:17.760 and run when their folk needed them that concept was so gross to our ancestors

00:53:25.460 that they wanted it eliminated from their sight so that them and their children didn't need to

00:53:31.720 be reminded that such a thing existed, and I think that's really important to kind of

00:53:37.860 internalize on this.

00:53:40.320 I want to go over to the side and see what folks are saying, thinking, or doing, if we

00:53:44.980 have any oath stuff, or if they just want us to talk about other things.

00:54:01.720 So while you look at the questions, I wanted to mention that blue eyedness thing. Tacitus mentions that in Germania, actually. He doesn't call it that, of course. But there's a section where he goes into how the Germans or Germanic peoples, they didn't even realize that usury was a thing.

00:54:24.400 they always gave their their kin the benefit of the doubt and uh it's just really cool that that

00:54:32.240 nobility and that good-naturedness and you know tassus was also sort of 0.95

00:54:38.400 painting us with this kind of noble savage look like oh they're so silly for not being

00:54:44.420 suspicious of each other thing but even back then we were known for being so good-natured and

00:54:53.520 and joyous in a way and trusting maybe to a fault but it it made for a high trust society and a lot

00:55:02.580 of a lot of frith we conceive of the world through empathy at the most fundamental level we

00:55:11.000 look to other living things and we project a bit of how we see the world onto them because it's

00:55:19.480 the only way we really know how to how to feel that out without further getting to know them

00:55:24.780 or their communication so our first instinct is to assume that this other person we're dealing

00:55:30.980 with must be like us in some way you know man if i if someone did this to me it'd make me really

00:55:38.880 sad so i'm not going to do that to them and it sounds childish but it is it's childish in its

00:55:44.640 simplicity. It's how, as children, we learn. It's been really cool. Those of you who are parents

00:55:52.000 know this. Those of you who aren't think that you know this, but you will know it in a whole

00:55:56.700 different way when you are. It's cool to watch Aubrey grow up and learn these things. Just

00:56:05.260 learn how she interacts with our cats and then how she interacts with other kids or how she

00:56:12.740 interacts with me or her mom, watching her learn social interactions and what to pick up on and

00:56:21.000 how to notice these things, it's instructive because I think on our basic level, that's how

00:56:28.360 we start. Now, by the time we're my age, you know, by the time we're any of our age that are probably

00:56:35.200 up at this hour watching this, we've got plenty of preconceptions, some good, some bad. We've got

00:56:42.420 a lot of learned experience that we factor in. We notice commonalities between certain

00:56:48.020 kinds of people and certain kinds of situations, and we learn to look out for certain things.

00:56:55.300 But the fundamental, it's nice to, the idea of striving for, at least amongst our folk in our

00:57:02.220 inning guard, that it doesn't occur to us that people would be dealing dishonestly with us or

00:57:09.320 would be cheating us or acting against us because why would they there this is my brother this is

00:57:14.920 my sister this is someone within our our family writ large within you know within our folk within

00:57:22.460 our inner yard that's a beautiful thing and it's something we should really strive for and you know

00:57:28.340 I don't I'm not advising anybody to be blind to treachery but it's a really nice goal to get back

00:57:38.480 to a place where treachery is so uncommon amongst our people that it is genuinely surprising.

00:57:46.380 So a couple of things and one question, obviously standing up for something and supporting it,

00:57:55.060 donating, being a member is a form of loyalty and commitment, but how is that elevated and

00:58:00.160 advanced through activity and involvement? If putting your name to something and your dollar

00:58:05.200 is important. Where does your time, presence, and work fit in?

00:58:11.460 Qu'est-ce que tu, Trent?

00:58:18.000 Well, that's kind of something I wanted to touch on if I was just sort of giving the floor

00:58:21.880 in general to rant, is yeah, there is a difference between simply being a supporter of something or

00:58:31.880 saying, yeah, I've got your back. And then actually having that person's back and actually

00:58:36.820 doing those things. Uh, and to kind of tie it into oaths, maybe this is relevant, or maybe I'm just

00:58:45.040 talking either way. It's, it's a good program, right? Um, our folk builders in Gothar, maybe the

00:58:53.380 Witten, I'm not sure. At least the folk builders in Gothar take oaths, uh, for that, those stations.

00:58:58.540 and it's in my opinion it's not sticking to the oath if all you do is not mess up to be sticking

00:59:09.180 to that oath you have to do the things you're going to say you're going to do the folk builders

00:59:14.300 are uh tasked with for example being a beacon to guide the folk home you have to actively be

00:59:20.720 folk building and doing things that assist with folk building to be following that oath uh the

00:59:26.320 gothar uh i'm gonna be honest i don't remember the phrase i was going to use for the gothar oath as

00:59:33.920 well as i did the folk builder oath but it's similar we guide the folk we have to actively

00:59:39.740 be engaged in doing gothar things and helping run the afa and helping the folk builders run the afa

00:59:48.340 and assisting the ulterior gothi and the witten taking directives etc if we're just you know

00:59:54.660 wearing the the cool rhido ring and putting on a stole occasionally that's that alone is not

01:00:04.140 sticking to the oath and it's it that should be kind of an answer to the question i guess is

01:00:12.960 just saying you support something and you know not disavowing that thing or doing anything

01:00:21.620 offensive to that thing isn't it's not the same as having skin in the game when you actually put

01:00:29.620 effort and time blood sweat and tears into something you're giving of yourself to that

01:00:35.240 thing that's that's a lot more it's a lot heavier it it means more not that we don't appreciate the

01:00:42.740 people who support us you know with donations and and uh you know getting in twitter arguments on

01:00:49.540 our behalf or whatever but the people who are here that are doing things that show up to the

01:00:55.060 hof that help with work days of the hof that the you know all of our awesome folk builders and go

01:01:00.900 thar they're they're going to be appreciated a little bit more because they're here they're

01:01:06.500 right here now doing things for us and for the icr most importantly so that's the difference

01:01:14.020 so i'm going to touch on two things that you said in there that i think are

01:01:19.540 worth, you know, really worth noting is

01:01:23.120 it's about doing active stuff. Well, I guess two things came to mind in what you're saying.

01:01:34.680 It's not just not betraying the gods or not betraying the AFA or not betraying

01:01:40.500 whoever you're oath to. It's also, you know, actively living up to the oath, actively doing

01:01:47.120 your part um you know there's stuff that trent said about contributing to the afa as far as

01:01:54.000 being an active participant being involved coming out to things helping out lending a hand

01:02:00.080 all of those things are a big part of displaying your loyalty to the icer and to the afa

01:02:05.760 are greatly appreciative of it everyone who's donated tonight that is an expression of trough

01:02:11.440 to the afa and the icer and it's very much appreciated what i think and again i think

01:02:18.640 that when people say this it is meant in the very best way from the very best place

01:02:25.200 and i appreciate and i appreciate it a thought just came to me and i appreciate it

01:02:34.480 but this is part of working with our mindset and being

01:02:41.440 got a sneeze that's trying to come that just won't anyways part of changing our mindset

01:02:47.580 is the idea of supporting uh being support supportive supporting the afa with whatever

01:02:54.420 there's a lot of people that well you know i'm really far away and i can't go to anything and

01:03:00.800 so i don't want to be a member and i'm not going to contribute and i'm not going to participate

01:03:04.740 but but i support you guys all the way no you you literally don't you literally don't support

01:03:11.420 us at all you wish us well and that's really nice but words have meaning and i think it's important to

01:03:22.140 think about what that means and be intentional in what we say and this factors in with the

01:03:26.460 oaths that we take and the things that we do commit to do we mean that or is it just something

01:03:31.980 nice to say if you really mean it then you need to act like it if you don't mean it then don't say

01:03:38.140 it find something else but i think this is part of taking ourselves seriously that has often

01:03:46.140 been degraded just like the oaths i mentioned that people treat like they're the user agreements

01:03:50.700 on stuff that are 65 pages long and you don't read them we've gotten that way with those two

01:03:57.260 and i want to i want to move away from that the other thing is part of your trough to the icer

01:04:08.140 is actively raising your children to be Ausatru.

01:04:14.220 This has gotten so much better than it was at one point in time. 1.00

01:04:18.280 But there was a period of time where I think there was a lot of families that were mixed religion. 0.81

01:04:24.140 You know, the husband at the time, more often than not, it was the husband who was Ausatru and the wife was something else.

01:04:33.700 be that some kind of Christian, some kind of Wiccan, some kind of, you know, maybe an atheist.

01:04:42.160 But one of the biggest jobs we have as parents is raising our children,

01:04:50.180 teaching them the things that we believe to be true and right.

01:04:53.980 And, you know, it's become politically incorrect or inappropriate for us to try to instill our values into our children.

01:05:07.800 But that's one of our most fundamental jobs as parents is to, you know, you should.

01:05:17.720 It's funny because we've developed a whole lexicon of making words mean different things.

01:05:23.020 we've got words that we've discovered me or we've turned into bad words and words that we haven't

01:05:29.180 you know indoctrinate is bad now but it didn't used to be um you should be trying to quote unquote

01:05:37.340 force your values on your children that's your job as a parent own that they shouldn't be your

01:05:45.100 values if you don't wholeheartedly believe them to be right and if you wholeheartedly believe them

01:05:50.300 to be right you should want your children to learn them and and make those a fundamental

01:05:55.500 part of who they are that's our job but that's part of that loyalty and it's also one of those

01:06:01.020 things that you know again in the mixed marriage situation that i mentioned before that generation 0.99

01:06:07.740 so we would have a generation of people announce the truth that would well you know glad no religion

01:06:12.380 was forced on me when i was a kid i'll you know let my kids decide when they're old enough

01:06:16.620 well i hope your children make the right choice when they're old enough but by doing that you've

01:06:23.500 abdicated your fundamental responsibility as a parent and i think that's damaging to our kids

01:06:31.820 and uh i'm glad that that's not the way that we see it uh nearly as much anymore in the afa of

01:06:39.740 people i've spoken to so another thing was not wanting to do the right thing because

01:06:47.580 you don't want to get in an argument with your spouse i think we all

01:06:55.020 and i you know ladies i'm sure you probably have some version of this or some way this intersects

01:07:02.060 you but gentlemen we all know that sometimes man it's just easier to just not and if they're gonna

01:07:09.020 you know nag at us or we're gonna have to deal with some argument we don't want to deal with

01:07:13.740 that's just whatever do whatever you want i think everybody feels that impulse from time to time

01:07:23.100 but no if it's important enough if it's something you believe in if it's part of your core values

01:07:28.060 and it involves your loyalty to our gods or to anything for that matter loyalty is something

01:07:34.780 worth having a rough evening over it's worth you know going through the struggle to make sure

01:07:44.780 you and your family live true to our gods um but i wanted to make sure to mention that i

01:07:50.860 think it's going to feed into our next question here ah you touched on this a bit last week or

01:07:57.180 the week before about the age old talk about family first i'm using the air quotes but the

01:08:02.380 camera's not wide enough to pick them up and someone running away from something when we

01:08:07.500 when the going gets tough but i was wondering if you could expand on that some more

01:08:11.580 i had some thoughts and i figured you could bounce off that in my mind

01:08:16.540 uh it would be that also true family and folk are not distinct things

01:08:23.660 uh i'll add self to that i would say there's no real strata there when someone says

01:08:28.860 something silly like family first. So a lot of people, you know what, I will expand on all those

01:08:38.060 things. Trent, I don't know if you heard previous episodes or whatever, but just based on that

01:08:45.960 commentary or question, what are your thoughts? I don't recall that part of a previous episode,

01:08:52.040 I certainly listen to it. As far as, you know, saying family first, there's that comes with caveats, you know, I mean, not to sound cheesy, but I wholeheartedly mean this.

01:09:07.900 actually more to that question in comment by the way keep reading okay there's a second part

01:09:14.460 or anything uh of that thought stuff we hear all the time that's backwards or rather in an imbalance

01:09:24.460 um yeah there's lots of the thoughts so yeah there's like four lines of this

01:09:29.900 answer that first part first we'll get to the we'll get to the other chunks here in a second

01:09:33.980 all right so uh i mean it wholeheartedly when i say the afa is my family it has been um

01:09:42.220 some of you may be aware about six years ago some uh obese bisexual domestic terrorists in atlanta 0.51

01:09:51.820 um said mean words about me and so a lot of my blood family sided with the mentally ill obese 0.87

01:09:59.820 blue haired domestic terrorists rather than me but the afa you know naturally sided with me

01:10:07.420 rather than against me and so yeah family first usually but you know if um my sister

01:10:19.660 you know were to say you can't be also true anymore it's a bad example for my son you know

01:10:26.140 You know, my nephew, I would have to say, well, you know, I'm not going to do that.

01:10:32.020 Sorry. Right. It's so, yeah, the family first thing is there's certainly a lot of truth to it, but there has to be exceptions.

01:10:39.820 There has to be limits. That's all I got on that first chunk of that question.

01:10:46.040 I guess you're going to read the rest of it. I can go to more detail. I'll read the rest of it in a second.

01:10:50.560 I want to I want to I want to contextualize the family first thing.

01:10:56.140 because I'm no part of the AFA doesn't think family is super important. Of course we do.

01:11:07.220 But I reject the false dichotomy of that. We live in a age where our folk is deeply,

01:11:15.080 deeply suffering of soul sickness. So we're thrust in these strange and unnatural choices

01:11:23.480 that people make but i think people you know family extends you mentioned if you know i think

01:11:33.300 you said your sister tried to get you to not be afa because they didn't want what it would do to

01:11:40.100 your son or her nephew in that example your son is just as much your family as your sister is

01:11:48.680 So I don't think that's a family first struggle there.

01:11:52.760 I think, unfortunately, that strife amongst kinsmen, which is one of the biggest curses and worst things amongst our folk. 0.97

01:12:00.800 Ideally, your family extends to your ancestors and your descendants, and not just those that are, you know, being jerks to you in the here and now.

01:12:09.300 But also, if the narrow view of family first is, well, I can't do anything that would hurt my ability to provide or my ability to raise my family or whatever, we would never have men in the world do anything that moves the needle on any of the things that are very important in our history.

01:12:37.720 no men would ever go to war over anything unless somebody's breaking into your house

01:12:43.480 because if you overextend that dichotomy well you know i gotta stay here and raise my kids i gotta

01:12:49.480 stay here and take care of my wife that would eliminate most anybody doing anything that

01:12:56.520 involves exploring or doing anything that has an element of risk or an element of adventure to it

01:13:04.520 but when we look at things that way we don't look at the at the benefit to our families

01:13:10.120 when we do certain things that are for the bigger causes in the world they benefit our family in

01:13:17.560 less direct ways that are just as important my argument here is without a true your who you are 0.78

01:13:26.360 Your family, your friendships, your life, and your relationship to the Aesir should all be congruent and syncretic and work together and be in harmony.

01:13:40.620 If they're not, something's wrong. 0.55

01:13:42.840 If you ever have to choose between the gods and your family, that causes the problem.

01:13:54.780 You should see where the problem is at that point because they should all work together.

01:14:00.800 Being a champion for our gods and for our AFA and our folk should benefit your family and does in countless ways.

01:14:12.560 It benefits and strengthens your family's hymenia.

01:14:15.200 It wins favor from our gods towards not just you, but those associated with you.

01:14:20.780 One of the biggest things about building reputation, and this is one of the other, like our topic tonight is literally endless because it's the root of so many things.

01:14:31.720 Reputation is largely based on your ability to be loyal or not be loyal.

01:14:37.660 That's a fundamental to most reputation things.

01:14:41.100 There's a skill reputation, but the character reputation, you being a person who's true to their word, you being somebody who's trustworthy, that meant everything.

01:14:51.520 If you win fame for standing up and being loyal to our folk and our gods, the gods will bless you and your family for that.

01:15:01.740 And it's not as easy to see or to add into a checkbook, but it's real and it's fundamental and it's touched my family in very, very many ways.

01:15:11.100 So that's a thing that should never be. That's never a real thing. And if you feel like it is, it's not. You're just not really looking at it through the right lens.

01:15:23.220 There's things situationally, obviously, like, oh, man, I need to go to the Hoff and do something. Oh, my child broke their arm. I need to take them to the hospital.

01:15:32.260 clearly one's an emergency and one's not like there's common sense but to throw that out and

01:15:39.380 to to hide behind that as an excuse is is ignoble most times now we live in a messed up world and

01:15:46.140 there may be something to where competing values are pitted against each other but

01:15:51.820 we should strive to live lives where that imbalance is not possible um so more parts of the question

01:15:59.100 or anything of that thought,

01:16:08.000 stuff like we hear all the time

01:16:09.480 that is backwards or rather imbalanced.

01:16:18.380 Also true, the I see are our family

01:16:20.340 and our folk and ourselves

01:16:21.800 to work nationally, healthy,

01:16:24.480 healthfully, nobly, 0.62

01:16:25.520 and in line with the Aryan realization, 0.60

01:16:27.620 religiosity and culture culture the two tons they all work in tandem having yourself and

01:16:35.000 your family's needs desire strengths and struggles in line aligned with the ice here and also true

01:16:40.400 means that what is good for the church and the ice here what is good for us true is what is good

01:16:45.580 for yourself and your family and the folk it all uh correlates and coalesces yes it does

01:16:51.420 Yes

01:16:56.360 So

01:16:56.940 Another question

01:17:01.280 Whitten Young spoke on heroes

01:17:03.500 And you spoke on oaths

01:17:05.400 Combine the two

01:17:06.280 Many of our heroes died for their trough

01:17:08.360 This is something I wanted to bring up

01:17:10.240 And I'm glad somebody asked about this

01:17:11.780 I don't find it likely in modern times

01:17:14.060 But really shouldn't we hold ourselves

01:17:15.920 To that same standard

01:17:17.020 Even if it's not death

01:17:19.040 uh jail doxing losing family friends societal shunning any of that or none of that maybe

01:17:26.980 nothing bad happens but really should we can we call ourselves also true if we wouldn't be willing

01:17:33.460 to be that hero and make that leap and be that loyal even through such a sacrifice

01:17:39.860 trip uh i would argue uh and i am an authority on alicea true to an extent so i would say no

01:17:50.300 you can't call yourself alicea true if you're not willing to make that sacrifice uh and speaking

01:17:55.240 from experience i have been doxxed i have lost family i have lost uh hell my old excuse my

01:18:00.920 language my uh oldest friends just left the afa because they got like bored of it i guess uh and

01:18:07.320 And so, you know, it's I'm not going to be like, well, you know, my friends got tired of this, so I'm going to be tired of it, too, and go hang out with them and not be out of true anymore.

01:18:17.920 That would be silly.

01:18:21.200 No, you can't be out of true and be willing to give it up for mundane hardships.

01:18:27.020 uh, like the old Harry Goethe said, you know, standing by your faith and the I seer doesn't

01:18:32.480 always, you know, build up your savings account, uh, if ever, but it's, it's not about that. It's

01:18:40.680 more than that. It kind of goes back to how I was speaking with that Swedish member about

01:18:44.840 materialism, replacing faith. Uh, what's more important, you know, obviously you need to put

01:18:51.580 food on the table and whatnot but i i don't know i think part of it you know like the last episode

01:18:59.640 of this i was on we kind of talked about like tv shows and stuff we watched where we looked up

01:19:07.180 the characters because they were manly and loyal and whatnot and i don't know i guess just everything

01:19:13.680 all the media i've consumed growing up the heroes were always loyal and steadfast and

01:19:20.840 strong even to their deaths because they believed in whatever the show was about right

01:19:27.260 so i've always wanted to be that kind of guy and unfortunately or fortunately i guess from

01:19:33.860 your outlook we do live in uh it's called the wolf age right we live in this age of cowardice

01:19:41.120 largely people are cowardly people can be lazy and it gives us this opportunity to truly be

01:19:49.180 Alcatru by simply being Alcatru and remaining Alcatru, keeping that loyalty to the Aesir in 0.85

01:19:57.680 the face of real hardship, of course, or even silly, fake child's play hardship. It gives us 0.56

01:20:07.160 the chance to be those heroes that we read about to a lesser extent. Nobody's going to force a

01:20:13.560 snake down my throat with a hot poker like uh round the strong of course but i get to i get

01:20:19.860 the opportunity every day to wear my hammer and my go thaw ring and my arm ring and all that and

01:20:27.960 be openly also true and remain also true so i think if you don't do those things

01:20:35.640 you need to reevaluate what you're doing or what you're not doing and then call yourself

01:20:42.380 house is true i think a couple of decades earlier rob the strong didn't think anybody would do that

01:20:48.220 either um and and that is super easy to say it is very hard to give your life for alsa true

01:21:04.300 i get that a lot of these things are hard but a lot of them are very real and they build upon one

01:21:09.260 It's not an unreasonable expectation for our gods to want someone who worships them to be willing to be proud of being Alcitru in the face of their family wagging fingers at them and, you know, criticizing them for breaking with Christianity.

01:21:33.940 that doesn't seem like too high of a price to pay but you'd be surprised how many people shrink from

01:21:40.600 that um your boss asking you uncomfortable questions shouldn't be enough to make you

01:21:50.100 give up a sincerely held belief if we look at other people of faith in the world

01:21:55.700 and and i i mentioned this earlier i think a lot of people don't come to this from a religious

01:22:01.040 background so they don't know how to be pious or they don't know how what that looks like because

01:22:06.720 they haven't seen that in their life it's not something that has ever been real to them in their

01:22:12.240 lived experience but it's something that they want to be and that's that's great i everybody

01:22:20.240 starts somewhere one of the things is looking at how other people of faith how seriously they take

01:22:26.240 it um and you don't need to look to christianity or to other things that do and to their credit

01:22:33.040 have their own martyrs that are willing to you know suffer abuse and death and very bad things

01:22:43.440 to still stay loyal to their to their god we have many of those heroes ourselves that were persecuted

01:22:51.120 unto death for their faith in Ausatru.

01:22:53.940 And they could have given up

01:22:55.340 and pretended they weren't Ausatru.

01:22:57.140 And, you know, I'm a secret Ausatru all by myself,

01:22:59.640 but I'm going to do all the Christian things.

01:23:02.340 And many of them did.

01:23:04.620 Tons of people did.

01:23:05.660 And that's why we are where we are today.

01:23:08.780 But I think all of us that are here

01:23:10.620 wish that our ancestors would have stayed loyal to our gods.

01:23:14.580 We celebrate those that did.

01:23:19.040 Conceptually, no, nobody should,

01:23:20.180 Nobody wants to sign up to be the one to take all these hits.

01:23:25.840 But you should be loyal enough to risk that if the other option is denying your gods and turning your back on them. 0.98

01:23:36.800 You should be willing to take that risk to say, no, I'm proud of the Isir. 0.92

01:23:42.220 I'm proud of the Austro-Folk assembly. 0.99

01:23:44.300 You know, this is who I am and consequences be damned.

01:23:50.180 And you'd be surprised how many people do and turn out just fine.

01:23:55.840 And by doing so, build a reputation as people of character and build the hymenia and the strength and the reputation of the Austro-Folk Assembly and of Austro-Trump.

01:24:08.300 So, yeah, there's a lot of people that don't turn and run that turn out just fine.

01:24:13.000 If you do it just right, you get added to the AFA's Wikipedia page. Fun fact.

01:24:20.180 there you go there you have it um from the face of hate himself

01:24:27.840 ah all right so what else we got here we got a number of questions we're going to pop back

01:24:35.680 to the beginning and kind of bounce around a little bit here mix it up as it were uh sierra

01:24:41.360 says i'll tell you go the and go the east how will each of you honor around the strong on his

01:24:47.900 Remembrance Day tomorrow. Thank you for reminding everybody of that. If anybody is unaware, tomorrow

01:24:54.480 is Roud the Strong's Day of Remembrance. We referenced him. Oh, I read it wrong. My fault.

01:25:04.800 I'm sorry, Sarah. I hope Sierra, wherever she is, will be honoring Roud the Strong.

01:25:10.300 um trent i think you wrote our article on route that we have on the website can you tell folks

01:25:20.540 a little bit about him about his situation and then you know anything special you will be doing

01:25:26.320 in his honor tomorrow yes so route the strong was a norwegian uh it says he was a

01:25:36.760 I think they say like sacrificial priest or something is how it was worded.

01:25:41.620 He was a gothi essentially at least,

01:25:44.160 or at least a local practitioner who led ritual. 0.96

01:25:51.060 Yeah, that might be it. 0.98

01:25:53.040 Blow priest blow gothi something, but he was a gothi.

01:25:57.220 He was a, a warrior and he was a seafarer in,

01:26:01.760 I think it was the turn of the century between the 10th and 11th century.

01:26:06.580 So end of the 900s, start of the thousands, 10 hundreds, whatever you want to call it.

01:26:11.820 And he, like many Alcetruer of the time, ran afoul of Olaf Trigvason, who is a recurring villain in our Days of Remembrance stories from that time period.

01:26:25.040 He found out that Raoul was still Alcetru and that his men were still Alcetru. 0.61

01:26:30.900 And so, you know, he tried just speaking to Raoul about it through emissaries, I assume, messengers and whatnot, saying, you know, hey, you need to become Christian.

01:26:43.860 You know, if you do, I'll be your best friend.

01:26:46.680 You'll trade with Charlemagne and or his empire and all that make all these riches or whatever.

01:26:55.040 And Raoul the Strong did not do that, of course.

01:26:58.140 He just kind of ignored him, I assume.

01:26:59.680 at some point uh they end up in a naval battle and so round the strong also had a reputation

01:27:09.420 for being a wizard is the word used which is not something you see in a lot of alcatruce stuff

01:27:14.820 but he was known as being a wizard because he was able to uh sail against the wind which is a bit

01:27:21.060 more common now but at the time in that part of europe it was pretty unheard of and in this naval

01:27:27.060 battle, he was able to take his extremely large ship and escape from Olaf Tryggvason and hide

01:27:34.940 out for a bit. But eventually Olaf and his men found where he was hiding. They snuck in and

01:27:43.080 captured him and his men. And Olaf gave him one last chance. He said, you know, we will be best

01:27:49.840 friends. We'll be, you know, I'll give you all these fabulous cash and prizes if you just convert

01:27:55.400 to worshiping this Jewish guy from a thousand years ago, and Raoul refused. He did not break 0.85

01:28:05.940 his loyalty to the Iser because he truly believed in them, and he was truly loyal to them.

01:28:11.160 And so, as I referenced earlier, Olaf had a snake chase down Raoul's throat with a hot poker,

01:28:19.280 And the snake, upon realizing it was inside of a guy, it chewed its way out through a side and killed Raoul slowly and, you know, gruesomely.

01:28:28.640 And all of Raoul's men either died a similar death or converted at the point of a sword.

01:28:35.960 As far as what I will be doing to remember him tomorrow, I will tell my Christian co-workers about him because they like these stories and I get to kind of plant those seeds.

01:28:52.920 I'll tell it better than I did just now, though.

01:28:55.000 I promise.

01:28:57.320 I will, you know, we'll have a little dinner here tomorrow night.

01:29:02.020 um kind of hail him and uh been doing this thing where i sort of speak at my wife's belly so my

01:29:12.240 son will kind of hear my voice while he's in utero maybe i'll tell him the story sounds goofy it's

01:29:17.920 probably gonna hurt my knees being that low for that long since i squatted like a dummy earlier

01:29:22.940 but uh you know make it happen that's what i have planned so far if i do something else cool i will

01:29:28.860 put it somewhere on MeWe so people

01:29:31.180 can see it. Fantastic

01:29:33.300 and I don't know if it was mentioned but

01:29:35.060 Roud is the Hoff hero

01:29:37.220 of Njordshoff

01:29:38.740 he is celebrated and

01:29:41.120 honored there and we

01:29:43.160 have a beautiful depiction

01:29:45.380 of Roud that was put together

01:29:47.320 by Witten Svahn

01:29:49.020 with the assistance of

01:29:51.300 Trent's very own wife, Madison

01:29:53.140 Oh Nick wants me to

01:29:58.860 let it be known. If you want to keep track of your days and things in this 2025, we have

01:30:09.860 one calendar left. There's one remaining calendar to be sold. Let's see who can be the first

01:30:16.100 to get it, but we've got one left of our 2025 AFA calendars if anybody is interested.

01:30:28.860 So from from Witten Daniel Young, hello and good evening.

01:30:37.660 Hey, Daniel.

01:30:38.220 I think it's awesome that we as a church are recognizing pioneers of Alcetru, in particular modern Alcetru.

01:30:45.400 How can we as Gothar, quote unquote, regular members?

01:30:49.600 uh okay so we as go with our or quote unquote regular members seek to become like our exalted

01:30:59.260 uh high law is there a particular quality of man or woman

01:31:08.080 that they are both with I don't understand the sentence but yeah

01:31:15.820 um is there a particular quality i guess that helps one towards that ascension how can we

01:31:24.960 ascend like these heroes trent what are your thoughts on that uh you can ascend like those

01:31:32.960 heroes by kind of doing what we said earlier and all the baseline stuff right wearing your hammer

01:31:37.540 outside your shirt being openly and proudly out of true and then on top of that you can't just do

01:31:43.340 that you can also have skin in the game uh you can start by asking a gothe or a local oath folk

01:31:52.060 builder about apprentice folk building you can volunteer to be a hoff steward by being the

01:31:59.660 person that takes care of one of our hoffs you can be one of the first people to move out to

01:32:04.780 sigerheim um join nick out there help out with that and kind of do stuff that way you can

01:32:12.940 essentially yeah have skin in the game put work in put leave your mark on alstrew and on the afa

01:32:20.140 um there's we have plenty of people in the afa right now that of course are not they don't have

01:32:26.060 a day of remembrance because they're on this side of the veil but i have a whole running

01:32:30.860 list in my head and i'm sure it's similar to the alzharagothi's list that he has probably uh

01:32:37.340 that once those people pass beyond the veil they're going to have a day of remembrance on their

01:32:41.820 birthday because of all they've done for modern aussitrew and the afa that's what you can do is 0.78

01:32:48.540 you can you can get to work and uh if you need ideas on how to do that you can shoot me or the

01:32:55.180 y'all's hair go through any of us an email yeah i mentioned before we live in a time of heroes

01:33:01.260 and i think that the particular status of being one of the uh

01:33:12.860 the uh highlighter of the afa is a it's a special level of ascension i think there's

01:33:21.900 probably a lot of different levels but we live at a time and a place where

01:33:27.820 individuals can have a much bigger impact on modern house to true than folks you know maybe

01:33:36.060 a few hundred years from now when you know thousands hundreds of thousands you know

01:33:43.020 perhaps millions of our folk have come home the opportunity for one voice to be that significant

01:33:50.220 is is much more difficult we live in a time where we still have some of you know some of the pioneers

01:33:57.340 of modern house are true that have given their whole life to fundamentally get this off the

01:34:04.140 ground there are opportunities around this and when i look at the things that so okay

01:34:10.300 i'll say this something of historical note

01:34:13.420 originally and i believe back in the in the mid-1980s during the austro free assembly days

01:34:21.400 um the ninth of every month was assigned to someone as a day of remembrance for you know

01:34:28.800 austro heroes and that was a really early stage of the resurgence of modern austro and it was

01:34:35.660 it was really cool viking stuff heavy and that's not to be disparaging there's plenty of cool viking

01:34:45.020 stuff um but the focus was really narrow and there's some people on there that weren't really

01:34:52.020 there was you know like leaf erickson that wasn't also true and there's some people on there that

01:34:58.720 weren't known for their outs of true practice. But most were

01:35:03.480 and most were really, you know, that was a very inspirational

01:35:07.420 thing. And it was important to me when I became also here you

01:35:10.780 go the to expand that list to where we recognize our heroes

01:35:16.360 and we remember them. That's such a fundamental aspect of our

01:35:19.240 faith. For us to remember the heroes to say their name to

01:35:23.860 speak toasts about them over symbol to give them give them worship in the afterlife and to help

01:35:33.140 build their reputation on both sides of the veil um one of the the biggest you know going back

01:35:43.300 there's plenty of people in the world who were heroes and were also true and i think that there's

01:35:50.340 some ascension going with anyone who becomes a hero, but specifically the heroes that we're

01:35:55.320 celebrating with Days of Remembrance, they're noted because of their loyalty to the Aesir.

01:36:03.200 Everything we're talking about in this episode is what you do to get on that list, to make

01:36:10.220 you being a champion of the gods a hallmark of your existence. And the other thing is

01:36:18.760 It's living a life to where this defines who you are, to where you're known for your loyalty to the Aesir.

01:36:33.800 and you throw yourself full force into maximizing the most you can do 0.92

01:36:46.280 for the advancement of also true and for the exaltation of the iser in your life

01:36:52.120 and you do that through loyalty you do it through all the positive expressions of it but you also do

01:36:57.260 it you know by being willing to stand with them even when there is consequence to yourself even

01:37:03.320 when it's not popular, even when it costs you friends or jobs

01:37:07.540 or whatever else situation you may find yourself in.

01:37:12.860 You putting the Iseer first in your life is what gets you to that level of ascension. 0.84

01:37:20.240 And it's not that you magically transform yourself to where you ascend 0.96

01:37:25.520 based on reshaping your spirit self.

01:37:30.160 And I think a lot of people in more esoteric practices think that's the way to ascension, and perhaps that does help you ascend in a way.

01:37:38.920 But the ascension that we're talking about here is the gods recognizing you and pulling you up and allowing you to become more than you are and pulling you up closer to them.

01:37:50.020 And I think you earn that when you get their favor, ultimately, and I think it's impious of me to have waited this long to mention this aspect of it.

01:37:58.400 Fundamentally, I think what you do to earn ascension is that you earn the goodwill of the ISEER.

01:38:05.800 It's a decision they make to pull you up or not, and they can make that on whatever criteria they choose.

01:38:13.880 These are the things so far that have made the choices of who's been elevated self-evident to myself

01:38:21.540 and have put them on the Ousitru Folk Assemblies calendar with their Days of Remembrance, though.

01:38:32.340 What else we got?

01:38:38.280 All right.

01:38:43.380 So Rachel asks, question, how does the AFA view the priestly role of marriage counseling?

01:38:50.380 Where do you draw wisdom to guide couples through difficulties?

01:38:56.360 Trent, do you have anything that you'd like to say on that?

01:39:01.400 Yeah, we view the priestly role of marriage counseling similar to how the Catholic Church does, I think.

01:39:10.800 And I know a lot of people are not fond of hearing that we do something or anything similar to how the Christians do it. 0.92

01:39:17.140 But Catholicism is is pretty darn pagan. So, you know, we take the good from it when we can, I guess. 0.93

01:39:31.260 As far as read the question again, really draw wisdom to guide couples through difficulties, frankly, through bad examples of a couple and through good examples of a couple.

01:39:43.860 I was really fortunate to have joined the AFA when I was 18 and immediately, you know, I'd been a legal adult from three or four months and, you know, I go to an AFA event and I'm surrounded by all these great couples.

01:39:58.840 I met Matt and Mandy there the first time, Steve and Sheila, Cliff, no, Katie wasn't around yet, never mind, but you get the picture, I had all these great couples around, and as a single young adult guy, I got to see like, okay, this is what a normal healthy relationship or marriage looks like, at least outside looking in, and I kind of, I was there for the various AFA dramas over the last 10 years in the media and stuff,

01:40:27.760 And never once did I see Githya McNallan, you know, betray Steve.

01:40:33.700 Never did I see Mandy betray the ulcerer Gauthier.

01:40:36.780 I've never, you know, you get the point.

01:40:39.620 So I know what a good marriage looks like.

01:40:41.940 And, of course, now I'm blessed enough to be in a good marriage myself.

01:40:45.780 And, you know, I'll see bad marriages or relationships just out in my mundane life, right?

01:40:52.400 And so marriage counseling, if it's pre-marriage counseling, I would ask various questions about how their faith or whatnot affects their relationship with each other, things like that.

01:41:07.160 But to answer the question, essentially, the wisdom I have for marriage counseling is I'll just gain through my own experience and seeing others in and outside of the AFA and how they interact with each other.

01:41:22.400 Trenton, have you been, have you done any marriage counseling as a go-fi?

01:41:27.380 A little bit, not too much, but yeah, a little bit.

01:41:33.120 Yeah, we've got, so a couple of, first, before I get on a roll and so that I don't forget,

01:41:39.620 Michael in Arizona donated $30 towards the Baldershof steeple. Thank you very much for that.

01:41:46.500 It's going to be beautiful. It's going to be amazing. I know they got good plans for it,

01:41:49.900 we really appreciate your contribution hail balder um with that said

01:41:57.900 our go-thar often get assigned all right so a few different things that i think are

01:42:07.900 useful for folks to know about our our priesthood and how some of the mechanics work

01:42:14.060 and I saw a little bit of the side chat on this earlier Rachel thank you for asking the question

01:42:24.200 this is a real question that puts meat on the bone and I think it's a very important one in this day

01:42:30.320 and age

01:42:34.220 so

01:42:40.520 are

01:42:44.060 our gothar certainly are spiritually connected to the ancient gothar um by unseen bonds that

01:42:51.500 I don't think we fully can weigh or can measure but in a modern sense our gothar trace our gothic

01:43:01.040 lineage back to um the agreement made the uh moment where the all-father chose Steve

01:43:12.560 McNallan to reforge Alcetree and all of our gothar trace their ordination back to Steve in some

01:43:26.900 they were ordained by someone Steve ordained or they were ordained by Steve himself except for

01:43:33.340 um one of our gothar who passed this last year uh gothi Thorgrin Odin he was actually ordained

01:43:41.340 by, at the time, the Ulsteri Gothi of the Austrofelligeth in Iceland, Jormundur Inge Hansen.

01:43:50.220 And that was because at that point in the AFA's history, the AFA wasn't currently ordaining Gothar.

01:43:57.720 So it was kind of a historical note on things.

01:44:00.880 One of the things that comes with that, though, it comes with a spiritual authority from the Aesir and from the Allfather himself

01:44:10.340 through that lineage and in a very practical way when it comes to counseling it comes with

01:44:19.020 the collected wisdom of all of those gothar who have come before so

01:44:25.940 i saw over on the side well you know some something to the effect of that our

01:44:33.260 our lore contains you know all you need to to do the counseling

01:44:37.660 our lord does a lot to help in a lot of different ways and i think that was certainly

01:44:45.360 one of the tools that greatly informed the first steps toward counseling when that's all we had

01:44:51.760 um and uh witten erickson and i will do a show on this at a later date whenever i can get him

01:45:01.080 arranged but i want to do a show about how also true is a living faith as opposed to faiths that

01:45:06.520 are locked in a time or a place and don't occur in a revelatory fashion in this day and age

01:45:13.640 we have learned a lot through our counseling of couples of

01:45:18.520 all kind all of the situations you can probably imagine

01:45:23.680 and probably several that you can't certainly things that i didn't imagine until

01:45:28.760 they blew my mind because you never would have thought you would have heard this so

01:45:34.900 And I tell New Gothar that all the time. You can prepare for every eventuality in every situation you think of.

01:45:42.440 Life will always throw you some kind of a curveball in the counseling process.

01:45:51.520 And I'm beating around the bush, but I'm trying to kind of paint a picture and talk about some bigger things.

01:45:56.580 I will get to the actual marital counseling.

01:45:58.760 But what I want to pregame it with is the tools that we use for it are the collected experience of our go-thar.

01:46:05.980 And I don't want to stop and do the math of how many years of counseling that is.

01:46:13.080 But certainly in my time, and I was ordained in 2012, at mid-summer 2012, I've done a lot of counseling.

01:46:25.400 I think that it's something that our folk don't see enough, and I really want to talk about it to give Argothar the credit that they've earned, because you see them when they come on this show and they'll talk about things, or when they do a ritual at a Hoff, or maybe they'll perform your wedding or your baby naming.

01:46:47.260 What folks don't see is all of the blood, sweat, tears, heartbreak, and hours and hours of dealing with people who are very badly damaged often and who find themselves at some of the most tragic moments of their life needing support, needing people to lean on.

01:47:11.760 And the wonderful men and women of our Goathe are, you know, gladly, and I'm so proud, like they jump in, like it's not in a silly way, but when we get a call, so if we have an emergency thing, and sometimes the, you know, what do I do?

01:47:33.940 my wife just left me or what do i do you know my husband told me he wants a divorce that's an

01:47:38.500 emergency just as much as anything else when we get word of that and we pass that out to the go

01:47:45.940 thar as a whole because you never know what time that comes in or who's doing what where

01:47:49.860 our go thar you know eagerly try to actively throw themselves at hey i will do it hey i'd be happy

01:48:00.780 to help hey if you think i'm the guy for it i'm here you let me know i'm consistently impressed

01:48:08.380 with how fast and eagerly they respond in a way that they want to help but all things being equal

01:48:14.140 what we what the process looks like a little bit in in a perfect situation if both if both

01:48:21.740 members of the couple are afa members what we like to do and this is in the case of

01:48:29.580 look at the exact phrasing of the question because it makes a difference

01:48:36.300 so marriage counseling so that could be anything it could be divorce counseling stuff it could be

01:48:42.860 you know if they're having a particular problem or a source of contention in the marriage it could be

01:48:48.940 sexual things it could be um any kind of kind of violence or it could be a lot of things

01:48:58.860 So the best scenario is that we get Gothia or Agithia to individually counsel each person separately. And then we work together to bring, I want to describe this. I never thought I had to really present this in a way that everybody's going to understand.

01:49:22.420 So to where each of the two individuals would get their own go-thee to talk to, to tell their side of the story, and to get individual advice advocating for their best interest and for them to come out as whole and as healthy in the process as they can.

01:49:49.380 and doing that with each party and then coming together and trying to find ways to

01:49:57.280 repair that family if that's possible. Not knowing what's going on or where people are at,

01:50:03.040 that's not always the outcome. Whatever counseling we're doing, we can't force people to do things

01:50:10.180 they don't want to do. But if we're involved in both sides and somebody is advocating for each

01:50:17.080 person and they don't feel like they're being ganged up on or like everybody's on her side

01:50:22.580 or everybody's on his side or whatever, we can work together as a united priesthood.

01:50:28.560 Not everybody involved, certainly, but the two folks that are doing the counseling of

01:50:34.780 the members of the couple and work towards that family ending up as healthy and as whole

01:50:44.060 as they can be on whatever the other side of this process looks like. There are some things that are

01:50:51.020 deal breakers and some people that no longer are going to be in that relationship. And we can't

01:50:56.380 force them, but we can very much work with them on how that separation looks, on the best way to

01:51:04.020 handle that that's going to be the least traumatic for everyone involved, for the family, for the

01:51:09.060 children if there are children involved and what that looks like but more you know more hopefully

01:51:15.180 we can work on them communicating with one another and we can work through

01:51:20.860 getting that process resolved in a way that heals their family and that's always the goal that's

01:51:29.220 always what we want I mean barring situations of horrendous abuse or particularly heinous things

01:51:37.080 we want to heal the family and we want to we want to keep families together and we want to keep

01:51:43.240 you know children in in whole and not broken homes as long as that's a safe option that's

01:51:50.140 possible but working towards having realism when we go into it and working towards a realistic

01:51:56.380 outcome that makes that that family as healthy optimally as we can get them is a big part

01:52:04.800 one of the things you know uh it gets like what are what are the best teachings or so a next

01:52:13.100 question from rachel is and what are the best teachings to use for mediation uh between members

01:52:19.180 of the community i think it's a similar thing if not marriage counseling if there's two parties

01:52:25.940 involved and they are both members of the austral folk assembly then we do a similar approach we

01:52:31.540 want to go through to talk to each of those people and see where they're at and this one

01:52:38.020 looking in terms of mediation i think is going to make the next thing i was going to say

01:52:43.540 more tangible there's two things that have served me outside of of trusting in in the in

01:52:53.140 And trusting in the Aesir and them blessing me with, you know, hopefully some momentum going in and some wisdom to deal with things.

01:53:05.200 The things on my own that I think have been most beneficial counseling wise, either marital counseling, individual counseling, or in a case of mediation. 0.99

01:53:16.240 Each of the Gothar involved.

01:53:18.220 first you let the person express out loud what their problem is like what are you upset about

01:53:29.800 tell me what's wrong and this a lot of the things I say on this program are very very simple

01:53:40.600 and I think that the fundamentals are what's really important and you start from the simple

01:53:46.880 and you go out some things are common sense but unfortunately we don't always think of them up front

01:53:54.720 the act of saying something out loud first it gets it off your chest and it takes away the

01:54:02.080 burden of it going unsaid and what happens if i don't say it swan and i have talked about that

01:54:08.000 too where the root of magic is is speech that's the first thing that takes something from an

01:54:15.440 internal thought and projects it into the world. That's the expression of putting your will out

01:54:20.940 into the world. And there's a hesitancy and a fear of that because that invokes judgment. It invokes

01:54:27.880 consequence. If you just keep it to yourself, then it's nothing. Once you say it out loud,

01:54:32.300 then it's real. So getting someone to get it off their chest, to vocalize what makes them upset,

01:54:39.280 what they're angry about, what they're hurt by, what is the problem,

01:54:43.920 takes a certain amount of pressure off first.

01:54:49.060 Secondly, you hear the words that you're saying,

01:54:55.240 and often you realize how that sounds when you say it out loud.

01:54:59.900 Oftentimes, what we've worked up in our head to be a very, very big deal,

01:55:04.900 when you say it out loud it seems really petty and that's not because whoever said it is

01:55:14.100 you know a small-minded person we all have a tendency when it roots around in our head it

01:55:20.520 builds a momentum and we build things up to be bigger deals than they are we all do it myself

01:55:25.260 included every one of us does that some do a greater degree than others certainly but saying

01:55:31.720 it out loud you hear how it sounds that in and of itself is therapeutic and you can adjust

01:55:38.720 according to it but you also see the reaction to the person you say it to and that helps

01:55:45.440 we would never want people to feel foolish or to make people feel embarrassed

01:55:49.540 but you do want to you see what you're saying and what that looks like in the light of day

01:55:57.960 And that was the first part. The second part, which is very similar, is asking what victory looks like. And I'm sure Different Gothar put it a different way. And I don't mean this to, I don't know. It is what it is. You want to know what each side wants, and then you work back from there. And if you have to be silly to get there, it is.

01:56:27.960 is never meant in a silly way it's meant you pick the extremes and then you work back from it 0.69

01:56:34.840 you know hey could you be friends you know could you ever make up with so and so and you guys be

01:56:40.360 friends again well never okay well what if they gave you a million dollars could you for a million

01:56:46.280 dollars well yeah of course i could for a million dollars all right well they don't have a million

01:56:50.360 dollars are not going to do that what about a hundred thousand dollars all right hundred thousand

01:56:56.440 i can do cool well they're not going to do that either that's asking a lot but

01:57:02.360 what if they said they're sorry and they bought you a whopper 0.85

01:57:07.880 double whopper and we'll call it good it sounds dumb and maybe that was a dumb example for me to 0.69

01:57:14.840 use but sometimes i've had it that way to where it becomes that lighthearted of a conversation 0.95

01:57:21.560 because when they said something out loud they realized what they were angry about wasn't that

01:57:25.080 big but you ask like hey what does it look like okay you're telling me that if they gave you

01:57:31.240 something it would make it worthwhile i don't think that's just materialism we as a folk when

01:57:38.040 our concept of doing wrong to someone is you're taking something from them and the first step

01:57:46.280 is to fill the hole of what you took things have a value and you can express it with money or with

01:57:53.400 whoppers or with sincere you know acts of somebody helping you out with something or if what they've

01:58:02.120 have taken from you as reputation. Maybe in the same place that they said something that offended

01:58:08.160 you, you have them issue a retraction and apologize in that same audience. Trying to figure out what

01:58:16.320 they feel is broken is how you go about figuring out what can be done to heal that that's broken.

01:58:24.260 A lot of time, just going through those steps of conversation, get both parties to a place where

01:58:31.640 they want to come together and fix things when we do a mediation and both parties are involved

01:58:40.000 to where we're not just talking to them separately when we come together one of the really important

01:58:45.220 factors that i don't think should ever be omitted is asking the gods to be witness and to help in

01:58:52.720 that process to invoke you know depending if there's if there's a personal god or goddess

01:58:58.280 that's relevant in the situation or particularly special to the people involved in general i think

01:59:04.920 for seti is a very good one to ask to to help come to a resolution but to put it in a divine context

01:59:15.320 to have the mediation does a lot to affect the souls of the people who are doing the mediating

01:59:20.680 to affect, or who are doing the two parties, as it were, and it sets a certain tone of

01:59:32.260 taking it seriously, and that the gods are watching, and that tends to help people view

01:59:41.360 things in the best, well, okay, I think that it helps them be aware that they need to be

01:59:48.680 their best behavior before the gods and they need to treat each other the best they can

01:59:53.960 another thing when it comes to mediation and i hope this isn't meandering i'm just trying to

02:00:00.040 put on all the different things that have worked well for me in both marital counseling and mediations

02:00:08.120 is

02:00:09.920 reminding ourselves

02:00:23.840 and reminding each other

02:00:25.520 and specifically reminding the people

02:00:27.620 that you're engaged

02:00:30.240 in the mediation with

02:00:31.540 part of loyalty

02:00:33.960 and part of frith

02:00:35.340 is extending

02:00:36.520 a maximal courtesy to one another to not to assume everybody is acting out of noble intentions

02:00:48.880 and coming from a good place when in doubt you assume everything is good intention especially

02:00:56.460 when we're doing things at distance if we're doing texting or you know posts on facebook

02:01:03.880 or whatever people are doing, whatever digital medium, it's very easy to misinterpret tone

02:01:11.720 and assume everybody has the worst possible tone if you don't like them or if you guys are going

02:01:17.300 through an issue. To actively make yourself to put the effort into, no, I'm going to assume they

02:01:25.880 meant that in the nicest possible way until I know different. If you can get both parties to extend

02:01:31.620 that courtesy to one another, that goes a long way, especially in the early stages of

02:01:36.440 a mediation. You ask what are some, some teachings or some good sources of information

02:01:45.340 or whatnot. I think before you, before one of our go-thar goes into any of those situations,

02:01:51.340 if they have the time to stop and to make an offering and to spend a little bit of time in

02:01:58.720 prayer asking our gods to help you especially if you are engaged in the work of of the priesthood

02:02:07.540 is a is an appropriate and uh you know i would say a necessary thing to do um and that helps a lot

02:02:16.900 um yeah so i think that's important and i hope that got to the question if it didn't or if

02:02:24.540 there's other pieces of it that you'd like more on, please ask, and I'd be happy to answer.

02:02:31.920 Trent, what are your thoughts on this? Is citizenship or social contract considered an

02:02:38.220 oath in the AFA? I'm just curious. What are your thoughts? Citizenship, I would say it

02:02:46.020 can be one of two things. One of those is social contract. I don't know if you become a citizen,

02:02:52.780 like a legal immigrant of another place if they make you swear an oath of citizenship. 1.00

02:02:57.340 If they do, I would say, yeah, that's an oath. So the AFA considers it an oath. 0.97

02:03:02.220 As far as social contract, I always think of social contract theory, you know, the idea that

02:03:09.580 as citizens, we follow the laws of a given society. And in return, that society does

02:03:19.340 good things with our taxes i mean uh that's implicit though rather than explicit it's not

02:03:27.820 stated you know i didn't have to put my hand on a bible or whatever at birth and agree to

02:03:35.660 you know pay taxes and follow the laws so i would say no social contracts are that is not an oath

02:03:44.780 in and of itself uh i suppose you could when taking a real oath you know you could promise

02:03:52.380 to follow social norms but no i wouldn't say that's an oath um that's an interesting question

02:04:01.500 and i'm i'm glad you brought that up and i think i think something to consider on oaths

02:04:12.540 and i'm not advocating for dishonesty or or taking false oaths but oaths you are forcibly made to take

02:04:25.340 are different than o's that you sign up and volunteer to take and that you you actively pursue

02:04:34.060 taking um again nothing is completely black and white there's there's variants of things

02:04:41.980 and there's a hierarchy of things and sometimes things come in conflict with one another

02:04:47.340 um but yes to a degree in all things being equal if you're taking an oath of citizenship

02:04:54.700 then yes as long as the nation that you are taking that oath to upholds what they're

02:05:01.420 sworn to in that thing because that's that's the other thing people need to understand about oaths

02:05:07.260 and nobody listening to this use this as an excuse to be dishonest don't do that to me in my words

02:05:16.580 but oaths are not one-sided don't feel victimized by an oath you took if you swore to do x if the

02:05:27.380 other party does y and they don't do y that's not you breaking the oath the oaths become invalid

02:05:35.480 oaths are are multiple sided typically sometimes they're not and that depends on what you do when

02:05:42.680 you step into a voluntary oath but there are implied things that make oaths valid and that

02:05:48.820 requires both people to be acting in good faith um but yes as long as those things hold true in a

02:05:56.200 in a very broad sense i think citizenship you see it's different when you're born a citizen to

02:06:02.260 something, it's a little bit different. If you have to take an oath of citizenship because you,

02:06:09.600 as an adult person, become a citizen of a different country, I think that probably looks

02:06:14.000 different in various places that you go. I do believe there is a naturalization oath that

02:06:20.920 people take for American citizenship if they're not born citizens. So yeah, that is a form of an

02:06:27.680 oath absolutely um social contract is a lot more broad it is an agreement between but it's it's

02:06:36.560 I say that it's theoretical when people talk about it like when you get born you don't sign

02:06:43.280 a social contract that's not a thing the government never saw you know the people in

02:06:48.800 office never signed that you never signed that you were born into something and we have social

02:06:54.920 understandings. I don't think it is wrong to look at it in a broad sense, like you would another

02:07:02.420 good faith agreement you were in with someone or somebody. But that social contract, I wouldn't

02:07:12.740 limit that to, you know, like Immanuel Kant's understanding of it, or what John Stuart Mill,

02:07:19.300 I think, had an understanding of it as well. Different places, different times, that social

02:07:24.740 contract looks real different and i think you do a disservice to judge it on some enlightenment

02:07:31.780 error era philosophers terms as opposed to the real situation you find yourself in and the

02:07:39.940 particulars of the society that you live in but i think yes that's a little bit broader than a

02:07:46.500 really specific person-to-person oath but it is an agreement that i think you owe a certain amount

02:07:53.060 of honor to if your society gives you the things they say they're going to be right by you

02:07:58.660 then your participation you know in it in what's expected of you is an important thing to be

02:08:05.460 considered i think the details matter and that's just too broad to really flesh out with an exactitude

02:08:14.980 and yes sierra the pledge of allegiance is exactly that as is intended

02:08:18.660 as a post-civil war oath to bind americans to not break off into small pieces but

02:08:33.260 again it's funny because it's conflicting with the wording of the constitution and the

02:08:40.500 constitutional convention on things and again the details matter but yes that is the idea is to get

02:08:46.500 people to publicly swear their allegiance and their agreement to abide by a certain

02:08:52.660 terms with the united states and that's what the purpose of that is um what else we got

02:09:02.420 uh trent what's the croatian war master asks what is the meaning of the sun cross

02:09:12.600 Gauthier East is wearing.

02:09:16.020 So the backstory behind it,

02:09:18.160 which may help to explain it,

02:09:19.620 is this belonged to

02:09:21.160 boat builder Mike Malillo

02:09:22.460 and he put it up for auction

02:09:25.200 at Baldershof Frey Faxi

02:09:27.240 last year

02:09:28.740 and I won it.

02:09:32.600 A lot of

02:09:33.980 universalist lefty

02:09:36.060 pagans would

02:09:37.540 say that the Solar Cross,

02:09:39.740 especially this style of it,

02:09:41.340 represents um the four seasons and cycles and they're partially correct our ancestors actually

02:09:48.260 only followed two seasons so it that part is incorrect but uh the idea of the cycle the

02:09:55.320 natural cycles natural law moving sun wise in a circle being unbroken uh right action that's what

02:10:02.440 it represents to me is natural law and cosmic order working in tandem being unbroken and right

02:10:10.080 action always moving forward. Trent, do you have any New Year's resolutions slash

02:10:25.120 odes? This is a really boring answer, but no, I don't.

02:10:32.260 That's on. Truth is another one of our noble virtues, so I appreciate that.

02:10:40.080 i do um i this year

02:10:47.840 so some um a very long time afa couple and uh some good friends of mandy and myself who've been

02:11:00.460 really really great to us they have a 12th night celebration that they do every year

02:11:08.800 And for whatever reason, this is the first year we've been able to make it out to it.

02:11:12.580 It's 45 minutes away or something.

02:11:17.320 But it was a really nice evening.

02:11:19.360 And they, I forget where they said they found this thing.

02:11:24.120 They've got a really big representation of, I think they may have welded the internal spokes.

02:11:31.300 But it's the same sun wheel that Trent's wearing.

02:11:34.760 And they've got, I mean, I'd say it's six foot diameter or so, a really big representation of that, that they, you know, wrap in, I don't know, wrap in straw, I think, in light.

02:11:51.140 And part of the ritual was putting things on there that we wanted to leave behind or to, you know, move past in the coming year.

02:12:02.300 and it was a really beautiful ceremony

02:12:04.460 and I was honored to be a part of it

02:12:05.900 and what I put on there,

02:12:09.260 I don't think this is like blowing out the candles.

02:12:11.520 I don't think I like lose the game

02:12:13.980 if I tell you what I wish for or whatever.

02:12:16.480 So I,

02:12:18.060 I'm trying to think of a way

02:12:23.200 to make it make the most sense to people.

02:12:26.900 I get

02:12:27.780 so this is y'all's fault for listening to this program and participating in it one of the like

02:12:38.780 listening taxes is that sometimes i go off on strange rabbit trails sometimes they're useful

02:12:44.640 and entertaining other times maybe not so much we'll have to see one of the things that occurred

02:12:51.740 to me earlier this year I don't know how many you get I assume that a lot of our audience is

02:12:59.120 familiar with um the rune keyness and a lot of you know I was trying to really do a deep dive

02:13:07.580 in the runes this year and I was you know I understand that there's a modern tradition of

02:13:14.240 looking at it as if it is a torch I don't find a lot of evidence of that I don't find a lot of

02:13:21.320 historicity of that until we get into like the Anglo-Saxon period I don't find that in deep

02:13:29.480 room more of that being the case but what I do find is it being um a like a burning ulcer or a you

02:13:39.500 a burning wound, like a burning internal

02:13:45.960 ulcer. And that always just sounded kind of gross and odd and never connected with me for a long

02:13:54.200 time. But I really thought about it a lot. And, you know, I feel it was revealed to me this year

02:14:00.120 in a way that that is one of the ways that the ICR communicate with me.

02:14:06.280 And I think that different people experience divinity in a lot of different ways, but one of the ways that I do is I get these just burning internal, literally fire in the belly, burning motivation that I have to accomplish things or these things need to be done or AFA needs to reach certain goals or do certain things.

02:14:34.460 And if I don't express those or if I don't handle those in a productive way to where they progress and they move forward and there's something that happens, I burn myself up inside with this, like, I don't know, with this odinic fury that this thing needs to get done.

02:14:55.860 And I don't put that, I don't blame that on the All-Father, I blame that on me. 0.93

02:15:00.080 But I think that's one of the ways that the ICers speak to me.

02:15:05.220 And I treasure that in a way, if that fire can lead to productive things happening.

02:15:11.760 What it has a tendency to do is, I notice all of the things that I want to see fixed,

02:15:19.280 things that I want to make different or want to see improved or want to see made better.

02:15:23.560 and if I can't immediately because I don't have the skill set or I don't have the right manpower

02:15:31.540 in place or it's just not the right time or there's not the right resources at the time or

02:15:36.600 whatever to do it I'll get grumpy about the thing that we don't have or we're not doing instead of

02:15:43.920 appreciating all the good things that we do have that we are doing because I'm always trying to

02:15:48.660 move to that next step. And again, I think in the handled correctly, I think that's a really good

02:15:55.000 thing, but it also has a tendency for me to get real grumpy about stuff if I'm not making the

02:16:01.120 progress I want with the AFA in certain areas. So I've, so I have decided to try to not do that

02:16:11.180 this year and take the time to focus more heavily on the things that that we do have that are doing

02:16:19.020 well other than you know all of the ambitions that i have for us that i haven't been able to

02:16:25.900 make happen for us yet so that's kind of my personal thing i resolved to do this year

02:16:31.740 I love you too, sweetheart.

02:16:38.420 Okay, I will.

02:16:42.480 All right.

02:16:46.940 Yeah, that's what I got as far as resolutions.

02:16:49.480 I don't think it's something too fancy, but that's the thing I've got.

02:16:55.900 All right, that's a big question.

02:16:58.720 Do you believe fate was determined from the start?

02:17:01.260 What happens is what has always been meant to happen.

02:17:04.720 Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think I remember hearing that's what Vikings believed in.

02:17:12.940 Trent, what are your thoughts?

02:17:17.520 Short answer, yes.

02:17:20.440 It's more complicated than just that, but yes.

02:17:24.880 You know, it's said that the Norns weave our fate.

02:17:27.520 You know, they are, like, currently weaving our fate, right?

02:17:30.040 there's Ord, Verdandi, and Skald

02:17:32.760 that which

02:17:35.340 has been

02:17:37.300 I think there's that which is

02:17:38.520 and that which should be

02:17:40.300 not what will be but what should be

02:17:42.220 and that kind of lends itself

02:17:47.240 to

02:17:47.760 sounding like fate isn't

02:17:51.300 inexorable

02:17:53.020 but

02:17:55.360 so if we look at it on a cosmic scale

02:17:59.080 the Aesir know that Ragnarok is coming

02:18:01.960 and they know that Gimli will rise out of the water

02:18:04.060 and things will start over

02:18:06.080 so my short answer is

02:18:07.920 is yes but that shouldn't

02:18:10.080 be used

02:18:10.840 as an excuse to ever

02:18:13.800 not do something or not take some

02:18:15.860 opportunity

02:18:27.760 so

02:18:29.080 I think that Trent and I come to the same place, but from a different way.

02:18:34.680 So I'm going to say no, but with the same kind of asterisks.

02:18:42.380 No, I don't think the Vikings believe that.

02:18:44.480 I think that's a common misunderstanding that people like to say to make them strange or exotic or to put a layer of, I don't know,

02:18:57.700 noble savage on them the if that okay there are greater cosmic cycles that are put in motion

02:19:20.740 that

02:19:21.940 happened

02:19:23.520 and

02:19:25.820 that certainly interplays

02:19:29.080 with fate, that interplays

02:19:31.320 with earth as a thing

02:19:33.020 like

02:19:33.500 winter

02:19:36.960 and then there's spring and then there's

02:19:39.220 summer and then there's fall and there's winter

02:19:41.320 that's going to keep

02:19:43.120 happening

02:19:43.580 we don't look at that like fate

02:19:47.000 or destiny, we look at that like

02:19:48.940 that's just the natural process of things those kind of things are fate and they happen cycles

02:19:57.500 happen but they can have greater or lesser intensity they can there's a lot of variant

02:20:04.940 there so there's currents within earth that lead things with directionality but there are

02:20:18.940 there is a tremendous value and ground to be gained when people fight against that when it is

02:20:28.660 headed in a bad direction um you know people have referred to that in a way as man against

02:20:38.620 time I think that there is stuff to where there is a flow of things and you want to redirect that

02:20:46.780 flow and that's part of the ability to so when our a theme in our lore and much western lore

02:20:57.500 is this idea of being able to see your fate or know the future or have

02:21:07.980 those kind of um what's the word i'm looking for um

02:21:13.500 All right, the better word will come to me, but when you do rune readings, when you read entrails, when you read, you know, the movement of sacred flocks of, of, of birds or of, you know, herds of horses on, on how to interpret signs that show you glimpses into earth, into the future.

02:21:38.500 or I mean into the well of fate and show you into the future and the idea is if you know that

02:21:49.420 beforehand you can act differently than you normally would otherwise there's no point to it

02:21:55.240 the very fact that that that's a thing goes against the concept that everything is is

02:22:02.980 predetermined to happen a certain way because if it is there's no point in you

02:22:07.240 trying to figure that out. What you want to figure out is where things are headed

02:22:12.940 so that you can lean into that to enhance that, or so you can lean hard against it and try to

02:22:19.620 shift it. Often the currents within earth are such that you can't completely divert the river

02:22:29.640 in a different way, but you can absolutely affect it. And if not, there's no free will. And if

02:22:36.520 there's no free will. You can't have heroism. Nothing's heroic. You're just acting as you

02:22:41.740 normally would have because it's all predetermined for you. That's not the way of the hero, and it's

02:22:47.520 not the way of our ancestors. And we see that in the very fact that Skold is named Skold and not,

02:22:57.180 you know

02:22:58.940 I think

02:23:01.380 will you guys want but will

02:23:03.400 happen must happen

02:23:04.900 it's

02:23:06.300 what should

02:23:09.580 happen or what's

02:23:11.440 you are aimed

02:23:13.220 towards happening

02:23:14.320 and we all see that in small

02:23:17.420 ways in life you know

02:23:19.140 people that are destined

02:23:21.460 for greatness but don't achieve it

02:23:23.520 if

02:23:25.360 fate is

02:23:26.680 fixed, you can't be destined for something and not achieve it in that paradigm. For you to not

02:23:35.060 to achieve your destiny, there has to be flexibility there or else that makes zero sense.

02:23:43.220 You see people that are projected towards a certain outcome, and they completely screw it

02:23:48.800 up because they don't want to try because they're lazy because they're afraid and they run from

02:23:54.220 their fate um you see that time and again so i don't i don't believe it is fixed i do believe

02:24:07.260 that there is a complex tapestry of things that create currents currents in your own life and big

02:24:15.740 currents big social currents big galactic currents that head things in a particular direction

02:24:24.220 But you can stand against those currents if that direction is less or is bad

02:24:30.560 or is contrary to the will of the Iser or to your will

02:24:35.560 and try to bend that to something better.

02:24:39.240 And I think that is the great struggle of us as individuals and as people

02:24:46.300 is to battle against, you know, to battle against

02:24:54.220 what would you know negative currents in earth to try to correct that to try to balance

02:25:01.680 our hymenia and get something better if you start out because that's kind of the nature

02:25:07.600 of heroism if you start out in a completely favorable situation with a favorable

02:25:14.600 a favorable fate with favorable hymenia with with you know a favorable current in earth and you just

02:25:25.360 ride that that's great and it's great for you but the hero that like the true accomplishment

02:25:34.560 is if you start out at a disadvantage and you still are able to overcome if you start with

02:25:39.920 the odds against you and you succeed over overwhelming odds, we have always recognized

02:25:47.080 inherently that is something much more special and much more amazing because it's rare and

02:25:52.860 because it's hard to do. If fate was fixed, I don't think that's a real conversation that

02:25:59.280 we would have. And fundamentally, I think we all know that on the micro scale, when

02:26:07.180 When people talk about fate, anybody who seriously talks about everything being predetermined,

02:26:14.220 those people almost invariably are talking about grand things, like the time of their

02:26:19.220 death.

02:26:21.380 So is how much creamer they're putting in their coffee tomorrow predetermined?

02:26:24.800 Well, when you get like that, more people are like, oh, well, no.

02:26:32.180 It's kind of one or the other, either things are completely fixed or they're not.

02:26:36.520 if they're not, it means things are, to one degree or another, alterable due to the course

02:26:43.620 of your will. And that's one of the great struggles of our folk and of our gods, is

02:26:49.380 seeing a predestined outcome that things are headed towards and trying to stave that off

02:26:56.480 or alter it in some way. And we see that theme in our lore, both in a grander mythological

02:27:04.940 sense and in the sagas and in and and and in folk tales and all throughout so yeah so i say no but

02:27:15.560 i do say there are big cosmic currents at play that you know are seemingly unalterable

02:27:23.160 if that helps that's always a murky topic when we talk about because very few things in

02:27:29.860 houseture, 100% clean, all of this and none of that.

02:27:35.460 There's a complex interplay of things.

02:27:38.760 And it's one of the things that is challenging about our faith,

02:27:42.340 but it's also one of the things that is special about our faith.

02:27:47.440 Truth is one of our core values.

02:27:50.380 Truth is not always easy, but it is always true.

02:27:53.420 um it's easier if we just you know me and trent just pick some hocus pocus and told you that's

02:28:01.720 what it was but we wouldn't do that our trough through the isera doesn't allow us just to make

02:28:06.880 stuff up so we have to deal with the complexities of a complex universe and that's one of the

02:28:12.940 special things about House of True, I think.

02:28:31.220 All right.

02:28:31.960 We've got a number of questions rolled in in the past few minutes here.

02:28:37.380 This time it really is, Sierra.

02:28:38.980 um what of the 12 or the 10 virtue 10 noble virtues do you personally find

02:28:45.060 hardest to adhere to for lack of a better word and why trent go

02:28:52.180 um maybe industriousness in so far that um i may have a goal or a a thing at my day job or an afa

02:29:04.740 thing i want to accomplish and it takes longer than it should or than i'd like for it to either

02:29:11.220 due to my own failings or someone else's uh yeah that's probably the closest one i have the others

02:29:18.640 are um less less tangible things i think and they're kind of easier to just sort of live

02:29:28.120 whereas industriousness has that tangible aspect to it i suppose that's a really tough question

02:29:34.240 but it's a good question see i'm overthinking the follow-up and i'll go ahead and throw you

02:29:40.800 the follow-up now what do you think is the which one is the easiest and why for you uh fidelity or

02:29:49.600 loyalty um it uh if it you know as far as like marriage i just have to not be a dick to my wife

02:30:00.640 you know i mean um as far as following oaths um i enjoy my job as a gothy and so i get do fun stuff

02:30:10.560 and that's me keeping an oath i made uh that one's the easiest for me um so and again these

02:30:21.280 are the kind of things i overthink a lot what i think is really hard is self-reliance

02:30:27.520 i find very often and when i say very often i think it's because it stands out to me and it

02:30:37.680 like bothers me a lot it really bothers me when i run into a bunch of stuff that i need to do

02:30:46.900 want to do must do but i can't do by myself and i have to rely on other people i don't like that

02:30:57.240 and especially when dealing with the afa and some bigger systems and poor nick is a victim of this

02:31:05.040 all the time there's tons of stuff that has to happen that i can't do and i have to ask nick to

02:31:11.060 do for me because i don't see the matrix and like speak computer like he does on some of the some of

02:31:17.040 the systems that we have it's just not something in my wheelhouse so knowing that something needs

02:31:24.320 to be accomplished and sitting around stewing about it because i can't get it done or i don't

02:31:28.940 have that skill set that's something that i struggle with a lot i don't know if that's like

02:31:35.280 lacking in the virtue of self-reliance i try to learn the things but the concept of self-reliance

02:31:40.340 being able to fully embody that's hard for me to do and i try to work towards it but that's hard

02:31:45.020 um what's easy easy is funny as a thing because i don't know that these things are

02:31:56.100 easy but they're simple and i'm accustomed to them it's like i think

02:32:04.760 i was gonna say truth loyalty or truth fidelity or hospitality um

02:32:13.820 they're not easy but they're self-evident I know what they are and I've worked really hard to build

02:32:24.940 my life in such a way to where there's not the conflicts that other people might experience with

02:32:32.100 those or that I would have if I would have lived a different life I don't mean like by being a dirt

02:32:37.040 bag I just mean like I've made the AFA the entirety of my life to where this is what I'm doing all of

02:32:43.120 time all of my friends i didn't cut off a bunch of friends to be part of the afa

02:32:48.560 but the way my life has developed my friendships are within the afa my family is built within and

02:32:54.800 around the afa i'm things are in harmony so there's not the push to be less than honest

02:33:04.000 with other people that may not get it or whatever that's not there because of how i've structured my

02:33:10.960 life loyalty all of my loyalties stack on each other and work together and harmonize

02:33:20.240 so i think i get the best end of that bargain and um

02:33:26.560 hospitality i just really like like that's that's my thing like that's what that's the

02:33:33.120 first way i started experiencing also true is welcoming people into my home and and having

02:33:38.000 people over and sharing the meal and so that's never been a difficulty or a hardship for me

02:33:45.440 that's always been a joy and something that you know strengthens me and brings up my mood and

02:33:51.760 helps and i really love so hospitality i'll say is the easiest for me um

02:34:11.840 okay also from sierra uh trent how do you work to practically apply these virtues daily

02:34:18.560 Do you try to hit all 10 every day, or do you just lead a life that hits all of these regularly?

02:34:28.620 Yeah, I try to just lead my life in a way where I don't violate any of them, I suppose.

02:34:35.020 Something I do every single morning and every night before bed, I have my ordination certificate above my altar.

02:34:44.480 and it sits this way uh on my side of the bed and uh i kind of wake up for a second and then

02:34:54.800 regret being awake because it's early and i have to get up for work and then i kind of read my

02:34:58.780 ordination certificate and it's got uh the ulcero gothi and steve's faces on it it's kind of funny

02:35:05.880 not i say it out loud but i sort of like focus on you know that gothic lineage that the ulcero

02:35:12.820 mentioned like i'm a part of that i'm carrying that with me everywhere i go i wear this it

02:35:17.940 symbolizes that and i it sounds stupid saying it out loud but i just sort of remind myself i need

02:35:25.560 to be worthy of that today and then when i go to bed at night i kind of glance at it again and i go

02:35:31.840 was i worthy of that today i'd like to think the answer is usually yes i usually tell myself yes

02:35:39.100 But, you know, there's probably days I could have done it better.

02:35:43.520 Yeah, no, I just try and lead my life in a way where those are followed or just rather not explicitly violated.

02:35:59.100 There was a time when I first started that I think that I did kind of try to think about them individually daily.

02:36:08.200 Um, I don't now, not, not because it's any less important, but because I think I've got

02:36:17.140 a lens to where I frequently find myself, something I, something's really important

02:36:24.540 to me and long-term listeners of, uh, the program will, will may realize this.

02:36:31.080 I try to go back to fundamentals and boil things down to like the simplest thing and

02:36:37.280 work back out from them a lot that's how i approach a lot of the things that we do

02:36:42.800 getting back to the fundamentals of our core virtues is something that i think about

02:36:47.280 a lot to kind of frame my thoughts and approach situations so i think that

02:36:54.560 that's something i do as they come up um

02:37:01.440 yeah i think i've internalized thinking about them in those terms to where

02:37:07.280 I try to make sure that when applicable situations come up in my life,

02:37:13.800 those are leading my decision-making or heavily influencing my decision-making on stuff.

02:37:20.820 So I think that's how I'd answer that.

02:37:23.900 Finn Wraith asks, do you believe in prophecies that people make that then come true in some way are real or just a coincidence?

02:37:33.620 Trent.

02:37:33.820 um i'm not going to dismiss the possibility that the icier speak to people in a way

02:37:44.680 where maybe they would know of some big thing coming and they would be correct about it

02:37:50.600 but generally speaking uh no i don't really believe in that stuff and i think if it's

02:37:56.800 you know because there's like you'll see these stories about like

02:37:59.960 oh, this old lady in West Virginia with one eye has predicted all of the last U.S. presidents.

02:38:07.620 Well, I mean, so have I, other than the 2020 election, you know what I mean?

02:38:12.100 So it, no, I don't.

02:38:15.840 There's an asterisk by that one.

02:38:20.780 So, yes, I'm a countersignal, Trent, but again, not really.

02:38:24.900 It's just a matter of degrees.

02:38:27.120 Yes, to your question.

02:38:29.560 Yes, I think some of them are absolutely real.

02:38:32.680 Yes, I think lots of them are just made-up nonsense that happened to coincidentally work out.

02:38:37.440 What my other favorite one is, is the quatrains.

02:38:41.800 If you make up something that's so completely ridiculously vague, you can apply it to any situation.

02:38:48.320 Then you always win, like you're always right.

02:38:50.780 then there will be snows from the north something warm from the south a wind will come from the east

02:39:01.640 and then a great man will rise and you can use that for literally anything ever always um no

02:39:10.400 there's a lot of charlatans and there's a lot of people that may even be well-intentioned that are

02:39:15.200 lunatics or are just wrong but to follow up on the earlier fate question yes there is a tapestry

02:39:23.400 of earth right now that one with enough second sight enough wisdom enough um magical gravitas

02:39:33.300 could perceive into the future these things and see the the battle plan of the next however long

02:39:40.040 but I also stand by what I said earlier that's subject to change because we're reshaping that

02:39:47.480 every layer that we lay into the well of earth all of our actions all of our deeds we're weaving

02:39:53.760 that tapestry as we speak but if everything stopped at this point and carried on exactly like

02:40:00.380 the momentum was carrying it there is a destination that destination always changes

02:40:06.220 But when you're talking about the current that everyone is headed towards, when I think that the meme the kids use these days is MPC, but there's a whole lot of people in this world that don't live introspective lives, that don't try to challenge the boundaries of their existence.

02:40:29.780 they don't try to ascend and be more than they are the concept of being a hero is laughable

02:40:36.140 or something we you know choose to use to deify disabled children instead of people

02:40:44.200 who've acted with extreme virtue um there are so many of them and so much weight behind

02:40:53.240 the momentum of things i think that there are very

02:41:00.120 that is accessible to people to be able to prophesy or when i say prophesy um i think that

02:41:08.760 involves rune readings or interpretations of signs or visions or dreams or other things all of that

02:41:16.600 that goes into um uh man i cannot find that word it's bothering me it's tip of my tongue i'm

02:41:26.440 um no better than this but anyways yes i think that's absolutely a thing because you can see

02:41:31.640 those broad enough currents you can see into that tapestry i've mentioned before on the show one of

02:41:37.480 And the key fundamentals of the idea of magic is being able to recognize the threads in that tapestry

02:41:51.260 and being able to move with it or see that coming and act in accordance.

02:41:59.880 Divination.

02:42:01.620 That's the word that would not come to me.

02:42:03.840 I found it divination.

02:42:05.680 Yeah, I think divination is absolutely a possible thing. 0.98

02:42:08.380 But I think 99 times out of 100, it's either a liar or a lunatic.

02:42:17.940 But that one time just needs to happen once for it to be a thing.

02:42:21.780 And I think it's happened well more than once in our history.

02:42:29.080 Has the Hoff hero of Fraze Hoff been decided?

02:42:32.960 No.

02:42:35.120 So I say, yes, that is the answer is no. That's something that once we get that, we'll decide on that. I want to talk with the leadership in that area at the time with, you know, the go-thar there and determine who fits best in that spot.

02:42:55.140 As far as I don't know, internally, and Witten and Githya Erickson, they will have a big say in that.

02:43:05.860 I don't know if they have any internal discussions about kind of who they'd like or what they were thinking.

02:43:10.580 So I'm not sure if there's a current front runner, but that has not been decided yet.

02:43:17.400 And last question of the night.

02:43:19.060 Are there things from your earlier days in Ausitru that you now regret?

02:43:24.440 And are there things you would do differently than you did when you were younger, if you could do it again?

02:43:30.080 I'm going to go quick, give my daughter a hug. I'll be right back.

02:43:32.960 Trent, go ahead and tackle this question.

02:43:37.000 All right, now I get to find a way to fill space until he gets back.

02:43:42.180 Yeah, yeah, of course. Like I said, I joined the AFA when I was 18.

02:43:45.640 and uh i was my first national event was right before i headed out to boot camp and infantry

02:43:54.720 school at fort benning and i got back from that and i was acting like a a kid fresh out of boot

02:44:01.000 camp would act you know i was very into the whole like uh viking mindset the whole warrior mindset

02:44:09.460 thing um one moment in particular i guess that i really regret if i had to pick one

02:44:16.820 was high sumble at ostara in 2017 um i was having such a great time and uh for whatever reason i

02:44:29.680 felt possessed to in the third round say over the horn uh i effing love the afa and

02:44:37.720 a lot of the people at the time were like, you know, woohoo, cool. Nowadays, though, I would

02:44:45.580 never speak like that over the horn or in front of most people even. So yeah, that's something I

02:44:54.700 regret. I think about that often and cringe at myself. I wish I could go back in time and

02:44:59.000 slap 20-year-old Trent in the back of the head for that one. Other things I would change, 0.97

02:45:07.720 uh yeah my language about what i call alice true like i said i used to call myself norse pagan or

02:45:16.780 just pagan or heathen in general i would change it to alice true so that i wasn't defining my

02:45:21.420 faith on someone else's terms uh other stuff i would kind of try to approach everything with

02:45:33.740 a bit more piety and a bit more seriousness.

02:45:37.380 Not that I didn't take it serious per se, you know,

02:45:41.820 obviously I'm here, so I do take it serious and all,

02:45:45.840 but I would have just tried to be more reverent

02:45:50.580 anytime I was at an AFA event.

02:45:57.980 So you're complaining you had to fill space.

02:46:00.520 I gave you one of the meatier questions we had tonight.

02:46:02.660 All right. Yes. And I'm trying to give you what comes to me again. This is the kind of thing I would. These are the kind of things that keep people up at night.

02:46:19.660 But yeah, I mean, I think that something is very wrong with somebody who would find themselves at my age and wouldn't see things that they did when they were younger and wish they would have done them different.

02:46:39.640 I think there's a million answers to that question.

02:46:42.400 I'm trying to think of ones that stand out, and specifically ones about Alcetru that stand out.

02:46:51.260 Um, we, we all go through, seemingly we all go through, a lot of us certainly do.

02:47:13.260 i did go through phase when you're in your your late teens in your early 20s where you know

02:47:21.820 everything and you know the right way to do everything and everybody should do things the

02:47:27.100 way that you know all 20 years of your wisdom tell you that things should happen and there's a

02:47:36.620 cockiness and a lack of understanding for elders and for why things are done the way

02:47:46.280 they are that I think displays itself with, with an arrogance when we're young all too

02:47:53.460 often. I think I had that a lot in my personal life as a kid. Like I was, I was a brat. I was

02:48:06.640 an only child and I was, you know, I should have got a lot of whoopings that I did not get that

02:48:13.700 would have served me well. As a young man getting involved in Ausitru, I had, you know, again,

02:48:23.460 I was like that to a degree.

02:48:26.380 In general, I wasn't disrespectful, but the first time that I interacted with Sheila McDowell 0.99

02:48:33.220 was getting in a stupid internet argument with her about some nonsense. 0.97

02:48:41.600 And she's Sheila McDowell, and I was literally nobody, and that's absurd, 0.99

02:48:48.580 and I feel bad about that to this day.

02:48:53.460 it was on some, it was involving Charles Lindbergh somehow,

02:48:59.700 but I don't remember the particulars of what I was spurging out about or whatever.

02:49:10.980 There's, I mean, there's a number of times, and I mean, there still is to where

02:49:16.980 I get bent out of shape or would get bent out of shape of different people not knowing things that

02:49:27.300 were maybe going on in their own life. And I was judging them harshly, not having all the

02:49:32.440 information and all the facts of things that were going through that kind of led to

02:49:38.020 whatever they were doing that got me grumpy. And then people like that, that I haven't

02:49:46.580 extended the kindness to that i wish that it would have

02:49:51.860 and that's definitely a thing um

02:49:57.700 i know a lot of this about australia i'll try to i mean there's infinite things that i could do on

02:50:02.100 this um and i think some of that introspection is really important i hope we all do it to a degree

02:50:08.100 but don't get locked in it either it's a truism when people it's kind of a cop-out when you ask

02:50:13.460 those questions somebody's like no i don't regret anything because everything i did led

02:50:17.380 me to where i am and i wouldn't want to be anywhere else that's true like i believe that

02:50:22.420 that is true but i also don't think it's it's an honest reflection um i'm glad of where i've ended

02:50:31.060 up i think a lot of that has been through effort and hard work and me doing the right things at

02:50:41.620 the right times or whatever but i know that a tremendous amount of that's been the benevolence

02:50:46.420 of of other really amazing people that i've gotten to know and build relationships with

02:50:51.860 and a massive amount of that is the goodwill and the blessings of our eyes here uh also true wise

02:51:00.980 i think you know we all go through that we know exactly how it should be and it should be my way

02:51:06.260 or the highway on whatever, whether we have any wisdom on it or not.

02:51:11.180 I think I went through that at the beginning.

02:51:13.080 It didn't cause me to break loose,

02:51:14.700 but it caused me to probably be more obnoxious than I should have been.

02:51:22.640 I think it took me too long to understand.

02:51:28.040 Like a lot of people to this day get involved in this,

02:51:31.500 and I think it was a little bit easier to do in my day

02:51:34.320 because there was more competition for it but thinking that there's this equality of things

02:51:41.840 and like why can't we all just get along man at the time i thought it'd be so great how come

02:51:47.280 the afa and the odenic right and the australians and you know if whatever good element of the troth

02:51:54.160 and there was some at that time in in history how come they don't break how come we all just

02:51:59.040 don't get together and you know all we can all work together all the time

02:52:04.320 And I think that that's even people who think that now and think that about greater white positive groups and things and causes.

02:52:16.440 I think all too often we think everybody's on the same team and working together.

02:52:21.100 And I think that's motivated out of really beautiful sentiments.

02:52:26.060 But it's not true and it's not the way the world works.

02:52:28.480 When we see good things happen, it's because people come together under one tent, under one, not being pulled in a thousand different directions, but under one clear path of direction and leadership and focus.

02:52:42.600 You do that by those groups of people combining if they really are on the same page and not by everybody, you know, being the king of their own backyard kingdom.

02:52:52.380 And I think that that was a phase that I went through early on that I got, you know, disabused of pretty quick.

02:53:06.220 Alcetra-wise, I don't know. I was really fortunate. I got connected with really good people. I found the right people at the right times in my life.

02:53:17.780 any of the big betrayals or people that have really let me down in Alistair True

02:53:27.240 weren't at the beginning. I can't look back to like my younger days when that was happening.

02:53:32.240 I think that's, you know, been in the last decade or so. Most of that.

02:53:37.620 So, yeah, I don't want to be arrogant, but I'm very happy with the experience I've had, and I've had people, I've had amazing people to guide me and help me and teach me as I came up, and I'm very fortunate for that.

02:53:56.580 I think that's what I got

02:54:04.800 for this evening. Trent, is there

02:54:06.640 anything you wanted

02:54:08.800 to leave people with

02:54:10.000 this evening?

02:54:13.320 Yes.

02:54:15.420 Let's see.

02:54:16.640 Nick says to plug the New York

02:54:18.480 Hoff fund. You want to find out

02:54:20.640 who the Hoff hero Frey's Hoff

02:54:22.480 is? Pay off New York's Hoff and we'll get to find

02:54:24.480 out. Yes, pay off my Hoff

02:54:26.340 for me. But the other thing I wanted to plug is Charming the Plow at Njordsov. Of course,

02:54:34.880 it's going to be a great event. The McNallans will be there. All the Flavels will be there.

02:54:39.440 I'll be there. All of our Gothar of that district. Some Arkansas people are coming out. 0.87

02:54:47.700 Sierra Chapman will be there. Plenty of people, newer members or newer leadership. You may not

02:54:54.940 i've met a national event before will be there and then uh also ostara at thorishoff which ostara

02:55:02.300 is my favorite event and has been since i've joined the afa the first two uh bloats i ever

02:55:09.100 got to be a part of and that showed me that the icier were real were done by the first and then

02:55:15.040 the second and current ulceragothi ulceragothar um and so that event means a lot to me and thorishoff

02:55:23.140 was my first off, so it's also super special to me.

02:55:27.500 And it's a great time, and it is March 21st through the 23rd.

02:55:32.540 It's the same dates, different months, easy to remember.

02:55:36.880 Yeah, get your tickets to both of those,

02:55:38.580 and I hope to see you at both of those.

02:55:40.740 And that's all I got.

02:55:44.080 All right, guys, thank you so much.

02:55:45.900 As always, y'all have been wonderful.

02:55:48.400 It's great to get to spend an evening with you.

02:55:53.140 And remember, loyalty isn't just something you talk about or something that applies to a shield wall or fighting dragons or whatever in your head.

02:56:08.120 Loyalty is a daily effort to live up to your commitments and to live up to your relationships and the bonds that you have with our gods and our folk and those you care about.

02:56:22.660 It can be a matter of life or death.

02:56:27.220 More often than not, it's a matter of just standing up, having a little bit of backbone and speaking proudly about things that you believe in.

02:56:38.420 But be loyal.

02:56:40.180 Define yourself by your loyalty.

02:56:41.720 look forward to talking to you next week

02:56:46.800 where witness fawn and i will go over the

02:56:49.180 solar leo i think the songs of the sun

02:56:56.300 that's an interesting one and one that a lot of people i don't think do

02:57:00.560 a lot in or aren't familiar with so that'll be interesting

02:57:03.500 and till then hail the isere hail the folk

02:57:08.220 hail the afa remember victory never sleeps

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Asatru Folk Assembly - January 09, 2025

1⧸8⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 131 - Living Trú

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