Asatru Folk Assembly - October 12, 2023


10⧸11⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 66 - Freyr's Harvest Feast


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00:00:00.400 matt you're live
00:00:06.360 hello um welcome back i i apologize for all of that we're trying to upgrade some things and
00:00:23.440 So far, we are not seeing the upgrade part of it.
00:00:28.540 Thank you guys for being patient.
00:00:30.860 Welcome anybody who is joining us just now.
00:00:38.680 Not sure if you guys heard anything before, so I'm going to go ahead and start as if this had never been a thing.
00:00:46.520 So it turns out. Sorry, I was looking at something on the back end because we switched videos. I can't see that anymore. So we'll start completely fresh.
00:00:59.600 so i mentioned a new number of times last month invited you guys to an event in montana called
00:01:06.160 frayer's harvest feast turned out to be a really great event heard wonderful things as far as
00:01:13.120 feedback goes from it that said decided we would bring folk builder tyler heineland on for the
00:01:20.480 first time he was the host of the event as i mentioned it was hosted on his homestead and i
00:01:27.040 figured he could tell us a little bit about the event and entice entice some folks to come out
00:01:33.840 next year if you didn't this year and just kind of give us a glimpse of stuff in his area but first
00:01:41.360 tyler everybody i have come on here for the first time i'd like to have them introduce themselves
00:01:46.720 tell folks a little bit about who you are how you found alsatru and how you came to be part of the
00:01:53.520 astro-folk assembly yeah absolutely so i'm a folk builder tyler hamlin i'm out of eastern montana
00:02:03.680 and i came to the afa through one of our members we bumped into each other in a couple of circles
00:02:11.280 we ran into just friend groups and it was really a really good good switch i was looking for
00:02:18.080 community and then i ended up finding spirituality in addition so that was a nice a nice thing i
00:02:23.680 wasn't expecting which i think is true for a lot of our guys that that come on uh and join the
00:02:29.120 the afa looking for community they end up finding a little bit more
00:02:35.280 so with that um how i came to as true in general i came from a lds background and
00:02:42.720 you know my mother's side was all lds my father's side was whatever church was popular at the time so
00:02:49.680 i had a very wide selection of religion to draw from in terms of upbringing so i got to see a
00:02:57.020 little bit of everything but what i noticed is that any bit of christianity that i really connected
00:03:02.940 to was inherently polytheistic and so the more i dug into it the more i saw that you know these
00:03:10.960 borrowed roots that come from our our ancestral faith were more akin to what i was looking for
00:03:15.280 and so i started looking to ask true and that's that's kind of my journey there
00:03:22.320 and now when bounce was that
00:03:26.800 oh that's a that's a good question i think we're looking at four years now maybe a little less
00:03:34.240 new kid on the block for sure
00:03:35.440 good deal i mean uh the clock starts sometime for everybody so no worries that's that's great
00:03:46.140 i'm glad you found your way here um so i suppose before we hit frayer's harvest feast
00:03:55.540 you have been a number of different places since your time joining the afa can you talk a little
00:04:07.200 bit about that quest and why you have ended up where you currently are yeah absolutely so
00:04:17.360 initially i joined the afa when i was living in washington western washington
00:04:21.660 this was north of seattle so while most people think of skyscrapers and crime it's actually more
00:04:29.840 cow fields and small farms that's where i was and we were always looking for the the end all
00:04:36.400 destination of where i was going to put my family and that over time transformed into looking for
00:04:43.100 a place to start a small community with a couple like-minded families we looked at several states
00:04:48.800 thought about Idaho, but Idaho has been growing too fast for our liking. We wanted somewhere that
00:04:55.920 was going to have declining population so that, you know, we'd have a bigger impact in our local
00:05:01.620 community. So we looked at Maine, we looked at North Dakota, we looked at Montana, and eventually
00:05:06.000 we decided on Montana, and I found this wonderful, wonderful county where everything was right where
00:05:10.840 needed to it's got a whopping 500 people i'm outnumbered by deer and cow and it's it's just
00:05:18.840 a really nice area so i'm settled in a little river valley i'm on 20 acres for now but there's
00:05:23.960 plenty of room to expand and i have access to over a million acres of bureau of land management land
00:05:29.960 where i can hunt and go explore and ride around do whatever i need to do so
00:05:34.680 So what started out as a quest for a place to just hang my hat turned into an endeavor
00:05:41.780 that has five other families committed to coming out to join us over the next five years,
00:05:47.140 and we're calling that project Folkbanger, so the people's field.
00:05:51.560 And it really is a beautiful valley, and it's starting to really, really come into being.
00:05:56.700 So we homestead, and by the end of this year, well, I guess it's upcoming year of 2024,
00:06:03.560 four will be at 100% self-sufficiency in terms of protein and about 80% on all other forms
00:06:10.020 of food. So it's coming along. Hopefully that answered that question.
00:06:14.760 No, it absolutely did. And I certainly wanted you to talk a little bit about your homestead
00:06:18.780 situation. That is a dream that so many people for so long talk about and very, very few people
00:06:27.320 have actually executed on. So it's great that you're not just talking about it.
00:06:33.440 you're currently uh coming to us from it so that's awesome um
00:06:42.400 if if no one had ever heard of it before and has no idea what was going on could you give
00:06:49.760 folks a rundown of this year's i suppose a fair's harvest feast generally and specifically this
00:06:56.080 years of that. Yeah, absolutely. So the first of this is a weekend dedicated to looking at the
00:07:03.360 aspects of the Baneer, looking at three deities in particular. So we start the weekend on Friday
00:07:10.320 and we look at Njord and we, you know, we appreciate that aspect. We gather together, we
00:07:17.440 we celebrate um mjordan the gifts he gives us and then the next day is prayers prayers day so
00:07:26.480 prayers day is the big the big day of the event we do games workshops bloat and of course a big feast
00:07:34.640 now the feast is something along the lines of your typical thanksgiving feast and your harvest
00:07:40.880 feast smashed together it very much has an the old american spirit attached to it and then come
00:07:48.000 sunday we we turn our attention to the hearth and the home and we pay homage to freya so
00:07:54.960 the three days have different feels but they all kind of come together and really flush nicely
00:08:02.800 overall it's four bloats so a bloat to njord and a bloat to frere and a bloat to freya and
00:08:08.000 then a children's bloke we typically do assemble although this year we just didn't fit it in we had
00:08:14.160 some weather complications that were quite thematic and in general it's a really good time if you
00:08:21.680 are going to go somewhere in the northwest for an event it's the event to go to i mean obviously try
00:08:27.680 and get down to the hops but if you just can't make it i got place for you at my place space for
00:08:33.440 you at my place. There we go. That's fantastic. How many people would you say were at the event
00:08:42.080 this year? Well, this year we had 41 people. That is including kiddos, but honestly, the fact that
00:08:48.500 there was that many kids makes it more impressive that we pulled it off. It kind of turned to a
00:08:52.380 little feral pack. It's quite entertaining to watch, but a little difficult to manage,
00:08:56.020 but it's definitely worth it. Looks amazing. I'm just looking at the slides Nick's putting
00:09:03.360 up the pictures looked looked great um aside from montana what other states were represented as far
00:09:12.720 as people who came out for it well idaho always does a really good job of coming out specifically
00:09:18.960 northern bassoon kingdred based out of out of court lane but we also had kyle reader come up
00:09:23.760 from southern idaho the mcnellens came up all the way from california we we had a couple people from
00:09:31.280 from here and there come in.
00:09:33.160 We had a couple people that bought tickets
00:09:34.580 from Baldursov territory, I believe Michigan,
00:09:37.840 but they weren't able to make it out,
00:09:38.920 but they still showed support.
00:09:40.740 And next year, we're only gonna get bigger.
00:09:43.640 And that's one of the things about First Harvest Feast
00:09:45.340 is every year we're trying to build infrastructure
00:09:48.100 at Folkfinger to host events more smoothly.
00:09:50.780 So after this year's event, I already went out ahead
00:09:54.640 and I bought some materials.
00:09:55.960 We're gonna be building a proper shower house.
00:09:58.960 So individual shower stalls and bathroom stalls.
00:10:01.020 going to take some time it's going to take some material gathering but we are working on that so
00:10:05.180 as this event continues each year we improve and we get to share that growth with the wider afa
00:10:11.980 when they come out well i think that's you know that's fantastic it's a it's a solid model and
00:10:20.860 that's a really good turnout for as far off the beaten path as uh as the site is um what is closest
00:10:30.220 airport if people are planning on attending in the future yeah absolutely so fortunately the
00:10:35.820 closest airport is billings international there are some local airports you could charter flight
00:10:41.900 to but the reality is it'd be more cost than it's worth so it's about a two-hour drive from billings
00:10:48.060 we are actually 14 miles on dirt road until you even hit the highway and then we're outside of
00:10:52.460 a little town called winnett so when it has half the county there so it's boasting 250 people
00:11:00.460 it's rural as all rural can be i got about three neighbors and that's if you don't include the elk
00:11:07.580 herd because they they outnumber us about 20 to one that's kind of cool i think there's probably
00:11:14.460 a lot of people listening that they have never experienced that kind of i don't know that kind
00:11:21.580 of middle of nowhere existence that's uh that's gotta be pretty special i really want to go check
00:11:28.620 it out and see your spot um like i said the pictures looked amazing and i've heard nothing
00:11:33.260 but great things from people who went out there certainly sheila mcnalen was very excited about
00:11:38.780 it her and i talked when she got back a little bit she had a great time um let's go see if we've
00:11:48.540 got some questions lined up um we got one our first one and our uh our standard one here good
00:11:56.220 evening. How are the host nights going? Also, what is your favorite Robert Heinlein novel?
00:12:04.620 Only one that I have read, Starship Troopers, but I liked it.
00:12:11.420 How's my evening going? It's a complicated question. A little bit grumpy about our technical
00:12:18.700 situation but i will tell you this this uh samuel smith's organic chocolate stout is uh making it
00:12:26.220 a little bit better so i appreciate that also i'm excited to be on here talking with you guys and
00:12:32.140 be over that particular hurdle um sorry about that it's okay technical problems are uh our
00:12:42.300 theme this evening. It's all good. So, Tyler, how are you doing, and what is your favorite
00:12:54.060 Robert Heinlein novel? So, I'm doing really, really good. We're past the feast, so I don't
00:13:02.660 have any stress on my plate, and I've got a lot of time to prepare for the next one, so I'm over
00:13:07.420 the moon i got everything lined up for the year as far as my favorite Robert Heinlein novel goes
00:13:13.580 to be honest nothing nothing beats starship troopers it's just there's something about it
00:13:21.100 there's something about the every everyday man looking just
00:13:27.260 unbelievable odds unwinnable odds in the face and saying you know what
00:13:30.780 i don't care i'm gonna fight as hard as i can anyway and there's just there's an appeal to that
00:13:37.420 All right. Next up, got a question from The Wolf Throne. Without spoiling too much of the future episode, can you touch briefly on Winter Nights and what it does or doesn't have in common with Halloween?
00:13:58.060 um sure and i don't think it's gonna gonna mess with future episode um because two weeks from now
00:14:07.680 i very specifically want the ericsons to talk about the afa's winter night event that has been
00:14:14.560 ongoing now for about 12 years and they'll go into detail on on the holiday itself but uh as a little
00:14:22.640 i don't know way of thinking about it you ask what it has in common what it's different than
00:14:29.760 halloween yeah it's absolutely halloween it's the you know norse germanic version of the same
00:14:42.240 holiday that halloween evolved from from the celts it's the same exact principle the idea is
00:14:50.040 i mean obviously it's you know not the quite in its religious practice it's not just the
00:14:59.740 silliness that you see in in you know modern halloween pumpkins and skeletons and stuff
00:15:06.720 although that's fine and cool and it's a lot of fun and it's a really good way to get the kids
00:15:10.560 involved but halloween the aspect that is similar that goes to the way back on halloween
00:15:17.920 It's a spooky time of year. It's a time of year where our folk have always believed the veil between the worlds starts to be the very thinnest.
00:15:30.840 And during that period, in the stillness and the quiet of late fall into winter, that barrier that separates the living from the dead and our world from their world is very, very thin.
00:15:48.380 and you have an increased opportunity to send messages to our loved ones beyond the veil
00:15:58.280 and to listen, if you listen hard enough, and receive messages back.
00:16:04.400 And that's very much the principle behind Winter Nights.
00:16:08.820 At Winter Nights, the AFA has always done a de-sear bloat,
00:16:11.920 And the DeSeer are the mothers of our line that look on and love and take care of us from beyond the veil.
00:16:25.140 um our one level of ascension for our female ancestors is that role of these here to look
00:16:36.440 over members of of their family in the future and to to protect them to love them and to guide them
00:16:42.360 and we see that all throughout uh northern folklore in different forms but we celebrate them
00:16:50.900 in, uh, at winter nights. And that's always been kind of an AFA tradition. Um, but yeah,
00:16:58.580 it's a time of celebrating our ancestors of reaching out to them, of honoring the turning
00:17:06.940 of the seasons and focusing our thoughts less on the, you know, voracious activity of summer
00:17:15.560 and more introspective towards connecting with our family,
00:17:20.420 both living and family that's passed.
00:17:24.360 So that's kind of the main focus of Winter Nights
00:17:28.240 and its commonality there.
00:17:35.280 The next question.
00:17:37.020 Good evening.
00:17:37.540 Does the AFA support the worship of Celtic gods,
00:17:40.840 such as Dagda, for example?
00:17:45.560 um support is an interesting word and I suppose it depends on how you use it
00:17:52.700 um yes we honor people getting back in touch with their ancestral deities
00:17:58.760 just as a rule absolutely specifically in the AFA context we believe in the commonality and
00:18:06.380 the common root religion of all the different shades of Aryan religiosity
00:18:12.200 we firmly believe that you are better suited worshiping gods as we know them in the uh in
00:18:21.660 the norse pantheon than outside because in that way we don't feel these you know different names
00:18:29.340 for the gods are neglected we feel that those gods are honored under the norse names in the
00:18:34.560 most effective and the best way and we think that for a number of reasons but that's certainly the
00:18:40.260 focus and the support that or the way of worship the AFA supports. Next question,
00:18:49.840 hey Tyler, could you talk about your hammer and why you didn't wear it for a while?
00:18:56.880 Yeah, absolutely. So my hammer is something that I chose not to wear for a long time. So when I
00:19:08.240 first joined the EFA, I saw a bunch of people wearing Mjolnirs, I asked about it, I wanted to
00:19:12.680 learn about what that meant and all that, and I determined that I didn't want to wear one until
00:19:20.020 I had done something to earn it, and so hopefully that's coming in clear. I carved this out of wood
00:19:28.320 from Baldershof. I'm no wood carver, but it suits me just fine. I chose not to wear a hammer until
00:19:36.520 I had accomplished a major goal
00:19:38.900 and so I set myself to task
00:19:40.860 to become an oath folk builder
00:19:42.980 and I decided not to wear a hammer
00:19:44.660 until I achieved it.
00:19:46.140 So
00:19:46.500 what I went ahead and did
00:19:50.140 was when Matt
00:19:52.000 oathed me in at Elsafest,
00:19:53.660 I stopped by the Hoffman Way Back
00:19:55.920 at Baldershoff and Brandy
00:19:58.500 hooked me up with some wood
00:19:59.660 from a tree they had downed.
00:20:02.220 I took it back, carved it, and that weekend
00:20:03.720 I was wearing a hammer, but I would not touch one before.
00:20:06.520 I just felt I needed to earn it. And I don't know if that really should be translated to anyone in
00:20:12.120 particular's life. If you're thinking about wearing a hammer or not, you know, do what is
00:20:15.900 going to work best for you. But I felt that was what was necessary for me.
00:20:20.640 Yeah, it's the first time I'd heard that from you. Appreciate you sharing that with folks.
00:20:28.360 Another question for you. Will Tyler's homestead community be made up of AFA members?
00:20:33.500 yeah so it's actually going to be exclusively afa members we're i mean obviously i can't control
00:20:42.260 who moves into neighboring parcels of course but as far as who's moving out they are exclusively
00:20:48.300 afa members no one's planning to to come out that's rocking the trad cat thing or anything
00:20:54.060 like that we have the advantage of having being in a rural very rural area with very few job
00:21:01.020 opportunities, that means that we can realistically not expect a large growth of non-Ascachuar
00:21:09.120 in our area.
00:21:10.120 Now, a lot of people are concerned about the lack of jobs in the area and that's mitigated
00:21:13.780 by the fact that we will be building businesses of our own in the area and then also working
00:21:19.380 together to provide economically beneficial agricultural opportunities.
00:21:27.680 So I think that answers that one.
00:21:31.000 Good deal.
00:21:36.720 Next question.
00:21:38.700 Did you guys celebrate Leif Erickson Day, which was a few days ago?
00:21:44.340 No, and let me, it's good to get a chance to explain why,
00:21:49.080 because I know a number of people in our circles do and did and get excited about that.
00:21:57.680 it's really important and i don't think it can be stressed enough and i don't think
00:22:04.280 enough people internalize this the astral folk assembly is a church devoted to the worship
00:22:10.840 of the iser certainly the most recent period that that was a uh a widely known widely done
00:22:25.000 and widely written about thing was the viking age so obviously there's a certain degree of
00:22:30.680 overlap because that's where a lot of our lore comes from but the afa is about the the religious
00:22:37.720 worship of our gods and not about i don't know celebrating vikingness and viking culture and
00:22:45.560 vikings because vikings are cool and vikings are cool i mean we all are excited about vikings we
00:22:51.240 We all think they're great.
00:22:53.180 But at the end of the day, Lee Ferrickson was a Christian.
00:22:58.080 And just because he was a Christian doesn't make him not worthy of celebrating.
00:23:01.700 There's plenty of people in later periods that we would celebrate for different reasons.
00:23:08.140 But as a church, we certainly don't recognize his day because he's a Christian.
00:23:12.200 But on top of that, he's not just a Christian.
00:23:16.520 He is a first generation Christian.
00:23:18.760 He was one of the generation of people that started Ausitru, rejected our gods, and embraced the Jewish God and left that very special bond that his people, since the dawn of time up until him, worshipped and celebrated.
00:23:43.900 that bond was the bedrock of what made the sacrality of him and his people's lives
00:23:54.460 and he was that first generation of people that broke from that and that severed that bond
00:23:59.580 so no i don't in any way want to uh celebrate leaf erickson um i think that is a is a terrible
00:24:07.660 offense. But I know a lot of people may not be aware of that, and I understand that people get
00:24:14.940 excited about Viking stuff, but that's our reasoning for that.
00:24:27.420 So next question from the Wolf Throne. One of the core beliefs of Ausatru is the world is good,
00:24:33.980 prosperity is good life is good and we should live it with joy and enthusiasm
00:24:39.980 how do we reconcile that with the evil and suffering of the world
00:24:49.260 so tyler i'm gonna let you take a swing at that first well i appreciate that because i've been
00:24:54.940 i saw it in the chat and i was rearing ready to go so first and foremost this this is a symptom
00:25:03.260 a view this view is a symptom of people that aren't out in the real world this is a symptom
00:25:08.540 of people who don't take the time to appreciate the world and all its beauty i have an advantage
00:25:16.240 i'm in the middle of nowhere i get up in the morning and greet the day with my wife
00:25:20.540 which if if you're not doing that and you're a married couple you really you really should get
00:25:25.320 on it because it does does really bring you closer together but i get up and i go out and i look
00:25:30.220 around and all i see is canyon wall nice beautiful trees usually some deer or turkeys running around
00:25:37.100 through my through my backyard i got the sun coming down on me i take the time to acknowledge
00:25:42.700 the day i take the time to appreciate the world you ever go on a hike and you get that sense of
00:25:48.300 peace it's friendly that calmness we just feel better after getting away from all the hustle and
00:25:54.300 bustle the cars the smog and cities the world's a beautiful place the belief that it's not
00:26:00.220 comes from from looking at the woes of the world and the worlds of the world are made primarily
00:26:05.640 in urban sprawls where people do not appreciate the world they don't take our faith seriously
00:26:13.160 or they don't have our faith they would like to get on and go about their day in a in a modern
00:26:20.560 manner you know we talked about homesteading and how a lot of people talk about doing it but
00:26:26.640 never take the steps well i took the steps and i gotta tell you i'd still have this view if i
00:26:31.120 even if i wasn't almost the simple fact is the place if you take time and appreciate it but if
00:26:37.380 all you want to do is sit and look at the smog the pollution the wars the famines all that then
00:26:42.980 you're missing the greatest beauty of all and that's the beauty of struggle our stories that
00:26:49.120 we share for generations aren't about someone waking up and toiling for a day and going to sleep
00:26:55.020 and you know he had a nice meal it's about people overcoming adversity it's about people
00:26:59.840 overcoming strife that's the beauty of this world is that we have that that peaceful element we have
00:27:07.040 all of the wonderful things that we can experience on the day-to-day but when those
00:27:11.940 struggles come up us overcoming them having that indomitable spirit that is where even more beauty
00:27:17.840 gets amplified what joy in in overcoming obstacles would there be if the obstacles were easy
00:27:26.400 so i i reject the notion that this world is an ugly place it's a wonderful place it's beautiful
00:27:33.280 it does require a certain amount of resolve and resilience a little bit of willpower
00:27:38.960 to overcome the struggles but the fact is even if you didn't have that which all of you do
00:27:45.280 You can still enjoy the beauty of the good days.
00:27:52.820 You know, it goes back to a conversation that we had.
00:27:57.180 I guess he put it most succinctly when we were having a conversation with folk builder Eric Lognet in Sweden.
00:28:04.140 Stop watching all the doom porn.
00:28:08.220 People in our circles, and, you know, I think all of us have been guilty of it.
00:28:13.340 know i have at times we are bombarded with negativity and with the sky is falling sky is
00:28:23.180 falling stuff all day every day if we are glued to our computers and our phones and our social media
00:28:32.540 which i am 100 i am please don't um uh oh raising my hand activated something on my new camera
00:28:41.740 it's all right i'm learning this thing as we go so that's the thing we're all
00:28:51.660 to be connected in so many of the ways that we are to be functional with a lot of the things
00:28:56.060 that we do by necessity we are exposed to lots and lots of complaining and
00:29:06.860 And this, like, orgy of negativity, and it's extremely detrimental.
00:29:17.180 I think there's plenty of a case to be made that it's physically detrimental.
00:29:21.400 But it's mentally and spiritually detrimental, too, if that's always your focus.
00:29:26.480 The world really, really is a beautiful and wonderful place.
00:29:30.720 there are some really terrible things going on in it that we don't like. Well, that's been the case
00:29:39.900 for thousands of years to one degree or another. If the only thing that you pay attention to is
00:29:47.440 those things, then absolutely it's overwhelming. But one of the big missions of the AFA is to get
00:29:55.240 our people to focus on what we can do what we can achieve together and the world that we are building
00:30:03.880 as opposed to the broad reaches of the world that are outside of our ability to affect in a
00:30:11.320 meaningful way and it doesn't mean be ignorant and bury your head in the sand it doesn't mean
00:30:19.960 don't pay attention to important current events but it does mean don't make that the focus of
00:30:25.560 your existence you know if you are happen to be in the afa and you are heavily involved in a
00:30:32.200 meaningful way in geopolitics then by all means fully engage with that if you're not if you're
00:30:38.920 the dude sitting at your house and being grumpy and gnashing your teeth at your computer screen
00:30:43.560 I mean, spend your time focusing on the great things that we've got going on.
00:30:48.900 You know, I was, took my daughter to the park the other day and I was getting grumpy about,
00:30:54.780 I don't know, about some nonsense and just listening to her giggling, watching her running
00:30:59.620 across the field to try to go get on the swing.
00:31:02.980 Just had a moment of like, wow, this is really beautiful.
00:31:05.780 This is really special.
00:31:06.940 We've got so many of that.
00:31:08.620 And I think that it is easier to see that when you're surrounded by beauty, if you live out in the country.
00:31:14.820 But I think that you can find plenty of that in an urban setting.
00:31:19.740 It has to do with your orientation and not necessarily the things around you.
00:31:25.140 Obviously, there's an asterisk by that if you are in the middle of some kind of chaos, of course.
00:31:30.400 But there's so many amazing things out there.
00:31:34.560 And this world has so much to offer us.
00:31:37.500 And as much as we have to sit around and be grumpy about, I think the vast majority of us are infinitely comfortable with Internet service and access to streaming stuff on TV and any kind of food we want to eat.
00:31:52.120 We really do have a lot of advantages our ancestors didn't have.
00:31:57.620 Let's use those to, I don't know, make our lives a happier place.
00:32:03.280 And I think we do that when we focus on what we have the ability to affect.
00:32:07.500 And Tyler's doing that as we speak with gathering together our folk in his area that want to move up there and building the future that he wants and making that happen.
00:32:20.660 He's spending hours putting in the work to build the world that he wants rather than to gnash his teeth that the world the way it is.
00:32:29.280 And that's exactly what we're trying to do at Sigurheim.
00:32:31.520 I'm looking so forward to moving out there and to as many of you as I can get to move out there, starting that village there.
00:32:37.500 true AFA community. If you want things, there's plenty to go out to do, but as long as we see
00:32:46.040 ourselves as victims, it's very easy to fall into that doom porn mentality. And I think so many of
00:32:56.200 us have been focused on that for so long that we don't realize how often that's what we spend our
00:33:04.040 time-consuming if I could piggyback so I saw in the chat mentions of the term
00:33:13.420 black pill and I think we're all familiar with it but the idea of the
00:33:16.940 black goes important to me I cannot be blackpilled and this is why I share this
00:33:22.640 with a lot of the younger guys that look at their job prospects or their dating
00:33:26.120 prospects it's just the way the world is and they get really really nervous I'm
00:33:31.340 a young guy so i get it you know i grew up in the same world they did i know lots of changed i've
00:33:36.140 seen those changes but i can't get blackpilled because i simply understand that if we were to
00:33:43.420 lose things would continue to decay the world would become a darker place if we aren't able
00:33:50.540 to manifest what we want out of this world eventually it would get so bad that natural
00:33:55.820 truth would reinstate itself our views would reinstate itself our religion would reinstate
00:34:01.780 itself and eventually through sheer force of things getting bad enough natural law takes over
00:34:07.820 and we resume and we get that place we always wanted but that's not going to happen because we
00:34:12.340 are people that build we are people that strive for excellence we build better and and bigger
00:34:19.480 and so because of that our victory is inevitable we will see the world we want to see
00:34:25.280 we will have healthy happy families as long as we believe it so the young guys out there
00:34:30.640 that are worried about dating the young guys that are worried about job prospects
00:34:35.200 don't worry just do we spend so much time talking about what we should do instead of doing it
00:34:42.320 you know i've mentioned that on this broadcast more times than i can count the biggest step
00:34:48.320 in anything is the distance from the couch to the door as long as we're in the research and
00:34:56.880 development and planning phase all of that is completely and totally worth it worthless
00:35:04.000 if we never make it to the implementation stage
00:35:07.600 you can talk yourself out of anything you want to do if you give yourself enough time
00:35:12.480 um that's one of the biggest things that is exemplified in our lore and is a theme of how
00:35:23.780 to practice house the truth the right way is we battle entropy the tendency to decay the tendency
00:35:32.240 to move towards towards chaos and disillusion instead of towards bigger and better things
00:35:40.780 it is a constant struggle to move forward, to aim upwards and to do things. If we focus that way,
00:35:49.080 we can absolutely do it. But we've got to give it fuel. It's not, you know, success isn't going to
00:35:53.540 just drag us along with it. We have to go out there every day and make good things happen.
00:36:01.360 That's fundamental to our existence. And when we do, there's nothing we can't accomplish.
00:36:07.260 But when we sit around and one of the, you know, talk about soul sickness, but one of the biggest symptoms of that soul sickness amongst our folk, and I've seen this a lot, especially with young guys, is they get so convinced that they're destined to lose and that they can't ever win at anything that they stop trying.
00:36:32.200 that they stop making any effort to do things and they move into escapism now sometimes escapism is
00:36:42.300 is you know video games and living a virtual existence and a number of other destructive
00:36:51.000 habits or drugs or anything else but a lot of times a form of escapism is getting together
00:36:57.120 with your buddies and talking about all of the terrible political things going on and how
00:37:02.680 everything's corrupt and everything's bad and the whole world's terrible and we're all going to die
00:37:07.660 and when you get in that spiral with you and your buddies it it perpetuates itself and it kills so
00:37:16.820 much time that you could spend going out and doing great things we get guys that feel like they can
00:37:23.520 never be successful um in a relationship we get a lot this is something that's that baffles me
00:37:30.420 and maybe this shows my age or whatever we got this whole class of young good-looking no homo
00:37:37.800 guys that uh are out there and doing this whole incel men go their own way like don't even try
00:37:50.520 because they want to complain about how terrible everything is
00:37:55.260 as far as the dating pool.
00:37:58.900 It blows my mind because these aren't the people that back in my day
00:38:03.280 would have trouble with ladies.
00:38:05.760 But all of a sudden, you know, these young, athletic, good-looking guys
00:38:09.940 got a good head on their shoulders, so much they can do,
00:38:12.500 they just throw their hands up and give up.
00:38:15.340 And it's ridiculous.
00:38:16.960 when you look and you see it's absolutely ridiculous but they stopped trying and you know
00:38:24.300 what not a lot of not a lot of amazing women wander through mom's basement so um it's really
00:38:31.680 hard to do it once you give up and you're out of the you know you're not out there on the hunt
00:38:35.660 making the effort you're going to have very limited rewards and i think that's the case for
00:38:40.460 so much. If you're not out there
00:38:43.060 trying, if you're not in the arena
00:38:44.840 doing, then you lose
00:38:47.280 100% of the things that you don't
00:38:49.100 go out and try for.
00:38:52.320 As far as
00:38:53.100 the hunt for women goes,
00:38:55.340 the finding a good woman,
00:38:57.180 it's really not as hard as you make it out to be.
00:38:59.900 You guys are going to be
00:39:01.040 playing games with your own head.
00:39:03.380 You want to find a good woman,
00:39:05.100 this is a simple step.
00:39:07.820 Start working on yourself.
00:39:10.460 don't think of it as a hunt think of it as trapping you want a good woman improve yourself
00:39:16.220 be worthy of it i don't know how many guys have come up to me and they tell me all this list of
00:39:20.940 criteria they have in their head they need this they need that and they need this what are you
00:39:25.180 offering and that goes for women too if you want a good man be a good woman so our people instead
00:39:31.820 of hemming and hawing about how unfair the world is need to just stop take a breath and work on
00:39:36.700 themselves so may sound harsh but that's that's the simple truth
00:39:44.060 and don't let perfect be the enemy of good we've got with everything in life we got guys that sit
00:39:49.500 around and they wait for everything to be perfect before they even make an effort and perfect's
00:39:53.900 never going to come and they anything they get involved in any group of people they're involved
00:39:59.980 in if they join the afa anything they have a built-in escape plan that the second things don't
00:40:07.320 go 100 their way they cut bait no it was all worthwhile it was all worthless it was all
00:40:12.440 worthless why even try and i've seen so many people do that and i haven't seen one of them
00:40:17.600 become happy because they did it um you see how focused on the stuff you can do we're doing
00:40:24.360 amazing things every day. We're doing great things together all the time.
00:40:28.960 And we invite all of you guys
00:40:32.860 come out and be a part of it. Let's reject that.
00:40:36.840 That's what any of our enemies want most is for us to
00:40:40.420 sit around feeling worthless and just not
00:40:44.640 participate and not show up. That is the easiest win our enemies have ever
00:40:48.740 had.
00:40:54.360 Let me find, because we've got a number of questions stacked up since we started on this particular tirade.
00:41:04.260 I appreciate that, guys.
00:41:09.500 Thoughts on honoring or worshiping Voland slash Weyland in regards to machinery and technology?
00:41:21.800 Sure, why not?
00:41:23.020 I don't think that's a terrible thing.
00:41:25.640 It is a challenge that people end up having is so often, as I mentioned earlier in the program on the Leif Erikson question, so much of our imagery and our lore comes from the Viking Age.
00:41:38.380 It can be a challenge to scale those things up towards modern things that have no equivalent in that time, like a lot of the technological innovations, and try to figure out where different things fall on that new playing field that wasn't even conceived of by our ancestors at the time.
00:42:05.740 No, I don't think that, you know, I think that the god of, the demigod perhaps of smithing is a reasonable place to go for craftsmanship generally and for building stuff, for fashioning tools, for fashioning weapons, for fashioning things.
00:42:30.840 I don't think that's a bad choice.
00:42:32.580 What about you, Tyler?
00:42:36.620 well as as far as everything goes i mean we do we do tend to focus a lot on like the vendal to
00:42:42.700 the viking period when we look at our heroes and and worship but i don't have a whole lot to to
00:42:50.780 speak on on any any particular option for you guys on technology but i will say this
00:42:56.140 as far as ancestral veneration goes there's never a bad time period i mean you you all have
00:43:02.380 ancestors that were pioneers colonists explorers farmers it doesn't matter what age or what what
00:43:09.180 title they had there's something there there's always a story that you should be able to dig
00:43:13.660 into and experience as far as any particulars go you know i think matt has a lot more information
00:43:19.900 on it than i do but i would say just take the time and get to know your ancestors that's never going
00:43:24.540 going to go wrong. I mean, that's always solid advice. And the other thing that's true that I
00:43:36.140 don't think enough people fully internalize. You guys have heard me rant about this before with
00:43:46.160 the whole scholasticism versus piety discussion. If our gods were not real, and were just some
00:43:58.040 kind of literary mythic concepts that our people use to articulate things in their lives,
00:44:06.200 or they were just some kind of archetypes or whatever, then sure, assigning one of them,
00:44:12.100 this is the god of storms this is the god of smithing this is the god of water but in reality
00:44:19.140 it's much much different than that our gods are living entities that exist with personality with
00:44:26.020 capability any of our gods would be beneficial for you to pursue their blessing in your work
00:44:33.460 if you're a smith if you're a smith njord is a fine god for you to devote worship
00:44:40.420 and interact with in your smithing and in your trade that's not his primary focus but he is a
00:44:46.980 god therefore he is probably a much better smith than any mortal um focusing on again i'm just
00:44:57.700 trying to think of strange examples but our gods exist and they're not tied to place or to
00:45:05.060 profession they have certain things that are their focus but we see time and again depending on where
00:45:12.260 and what time in our lore and what tribe people belong to they would reach out to their specific
00:45:18.740 tribal god they were most fond of for success at life across the board even if it's you know outside
00:45:27.380 of what the stereotypical understanding of that deity is our gods are gods and we should never
00:45:34.100 forget that. And just as you are capable of a great many things in your life, they are also
00:45:39.360 capable of a great many different sides to their personality and things they're capable of.
00:45:44.920 They're not, you know, role play game characters where you put all the points in this thing and
00:45:50.400 not enough points in that thing. They have unlimited points. And so it's, don't confine
00:45:58.080 yourself to, oh, I'm smithing. I need to worship the God of smithing. There's a lot more to it
00:46:03.840 that it's a lot more in depth than that um real quick i just i think there's also this this
00:46:16.800 disconnect between people and and our past right i mean if you look at a machinist of today
00:46:26.320 that's a smith of yesterday our jobs aren't new we've just gotten better
00:46:31.600 tools and better technology and we've come up with new fancy terms at the end of the day the
00:46:38.000 jobs is the same so don't get too caught up in this whole what is what is the modern comparative
00:46:43.800 we we're one people time really becomes obsolete when you start thinking as one unit one people
00:46:51.720 and that's not a hundred percent but i think in terms of asking like who the god of technology
00:46:59.740 is I don't think there's much of a difference
00:47:01.780 between the technology of the past and the technology of today.
00:47:04.960 Really, what's the difference
00:47:05.960 between the cotton gin and hand-picking and weaving?
00:47:08.960 A couple pieces of wood,
00:47:10.220 a couple pieces of metal.
00:47:11.540 As we go through, we develop better tools,
00:47:14.540 but at the end of the day,
00:47:16.460 an adalel, a bow, or a gun,
00:47:18.100 it's all hunting.
00:47:19.600 You could easily pay homage to Uller.
00:47:23.680 So just a little aside there.
00:47:27.960 Yeah, and I think that those
00:47:29.720 Those are absolutely, and the other thing is we don't do some kind of communist assigning
00:47:42.000 you a God based on your profession.
00:47:46.960 Our ancestors did things because there were things to do.
00:47:52.440 often the greatest warriors that we celebrate they weren't very few of them were soldiers by trade
00:48:02.360 the vast majority of them were farmers or merchants or fishermen or any number of other things and
00:48:10.520 when the call came out for uh for battle they would drop their other careers and go out and do
00:48:16.840 that um you had a lot of overlap in skill sets and things people did so i think there's a thing
00:48:23.720 on that as well while we're discussing technology and this goes back to the the doom porn black pill
00:48:29.400 thing something else i'd like to see our people get a more healthy approach to is technology
00:48:37.320 generally the world's not going to move backwards we are faced when we have new discoveries we have
00:48:46.360 have new technologies, we have new developments in the world, we're faced with new challenges.
00:48:52.120 We are much better served embracing those challenges and figuring out the best way to
00:48:58.980 work with the hand we're dealt than we are complaining that we don't like the hand that
00:49:05.500 we're dealt, that we wish we lived in some different time. That's not our choice. We have
00:49:11.700 certain oar log that's been dealt to us to live in this time at this place and there's certain
00:49:17.140 things and conditions that aren't the way we'd like them as much as we wish they were different
00:49:22.580 but it do so our best uh our best situation is to take that do the best we can with the hand
00:49:30.580 root bill those are the challenges of our time and focusing on that because there's nothing you can
00:49:36.500 do about um you can't put genies back in bottles once things are there they exist so it's best for
00:49:43.780 us to focus on the best use of them the best use of the tools available to us rather than lamenting
00:49:50.820 things we can't control uh finn our next question and i mentioned this earlier but it's worth
00:49:56.740 reiterating i heard a claim that october around halloween is supposed to be a more spiritual time
00:50:02.900 when the line between the spiritual world and our world is thinner or something do you believe in
00:50:08.020 this absolutely i do um that is the focus of our winter nights celebration it's something that we
00:50:18.100 celebrate throughout the winter it's something that
00:50:23.620 it's one of the reasons that we focus our worship during winter nights very often
00:50:28.900 around our ancestors specifically i mentioned the dcr our female ancestors that look after
00:50:36.100 us from beyond the veil but yes absolutely that time of year is very special and
00:50:43.860 those two separate forms of existence are closer at that point than at any other point
00:50:50.420 and so that's uh we try to focus on that
00:50:58.900 rooster's creepy symposium one since reading mcnalen's a native european spirituality
00:51:08.680 along with the edda's what other resources uh for someone new
00:51:14.920 to the ouster true and the afa to learn more about the faith
00:51:19.720 um so i and i've i've plugged this many times culture of the teutons is a really good choice
00:51:31.100 i think there's a lot of really good information there there's any number of
00:51:36.300 sagas and bits of ancient lore that are cool and that are useful and that are good in grounding you
00:51:45.100 and things the best resources to understand more about the practice of outside truth and i believe
00:51:55.020 this are the library on the afa website runestone.org listening to this show and the past
00:52:06.140 episodes of this show because we talk about the meat of things
00:52:09.500 you can find out a lot about how our ancestors practiced Al-Satru from books
00:52:16.960 and you can find bits and pieces but if you want to find out how Al-Satru is practiced
00:52:22.120 today in the world that you live in your best bet is to
00:52:27.040 focus on those who are practicing Al-Satru and even better to go out and be part of it
00:52:35.540 if you want to go observe something that's fine
00:52:39.500 um if you want to join and jump right in that's probably even better the best way
00:52:43.740 you know it's been said many times and i think this is very true the best way to learn a language
00:52:48.780 is to immerse yourself in that culture and just go there when you dump yourself in a
00:52:56.940 in an area be it a country or be it a grouping of people to where that's the only language they speak
00:53:03.100 you learn to pick it up pretty quick and if you jump into a community of people who practice
00:53:08.540 house are true you'll learn a lot about it very quickly so much of what we do isn't you know isn't
00:53:16.940 found in books it's found in practice and it's found in talking to people that this is their
00:53:22.380 this is a living faith that they and their family practice so that's what i would recommend what
00:53:27.100 about you tyler i think one of the biggest overlooked sources for information or answers
00:53:35.180 to your questions is our gothar our gothar are phenomenal i harass brandy and sheila i harass
00:53:42.940 joe i harass matt ad nauseum i'm sure they sometimes get sick of how many questions i have
00:53:47.920 for them i'm always contacting them always harassing them with questions and thoughts i
00:53:53.540 have and it's it's really useful to have that and it's not a privilege i have of being a focal that's
00:53:58.280 privilege i have of being a member of the afa so i would just rely not only on your own personal
00:54:05.320 research not only on the resources we have on the afa but also rely on the people you
00:54:09.960 you have around yourself and our growth are are a great place to start for that
00:54:19.080 absolutely and that's certainly one of the big things that we are here for is to talk
00:54:23.240 to anybody that has spiritual questions that way um and number two from the same uh same guy
00:54:31.240 assume it's a guy um since i've read all the stuff and got a feeling i've never had after
00:54:38.120 reading any other religious or spiritual work i just have this feeling of what now
00:54:45.640 so i answered it earlier not realizing this was going to be your second question what now
00:54:50.200 reach out to your local folk builder. Again, runestone.org can get you set up with who that
00:54:59.080 might be. Or if you mentioned it over in the comment section, we've got a number of people
00:55:04.680 monitoring this that will tell you who to email. Get involved. Come out to something. Be part of
00:55:11.480 what we're doing. It's absolutely the next step, and it might turn out to be one of the best
00:55:19.100 things you've done in your life. It certainly was the case with me. Okay. I think Nick threw
00:55:32.780 that question up as a joke. Next question. Which translation of the Etta's would you recommend,
00:55:40.900 And especially the poetic Edda.
00:55:49.160 Hollander, just because it's what's off the top of my head, I'm not that guy.
00:55:53.260 I don't have a real strong opinion on that.
00:55:56.740 I think that any one of them is fine.
00:56:00.540 I don't think any of them are bad.
00:56:02.360 but i think that the more you compare and contrast them the more you pick out things that are the
00:56:10.880 same across the board and areas where there may be a slight difference so i would encourage
00:56:16.600 multiple but hollanders probably might go to what about you tally so i i like anderson's and
00:56:25.060 i do jackson cropper as well but in general one of the things that we do on the unity call is every
00:56:31.260 few weeks we talk about the we share a passage of the hobmo and then we compare our different
00:56:38.140 editions and we talk about it and everyone brings a stanza they really felt was relevant to them
00:56:44.300 and we talk about it and the advantage of doing it the way we do it is that we get to hear
00:56:48.580 different versions of it and we get to pick up things that we might not have seen
00:56:52.520 so i think matt is 100 correct you should not resign you know constrain yourself to a single
00:56:59.820 translation i suppose people don't really know what the unity calls are
00:57:12.480 no that's the word okay please explain to folks about the this uh unity call
00:57:17.980 so one of the one of the things we have being so spread out throughout the united states not
00:57:24.820 just the united states but the world is we don't always have a lot of members around us
00:57:28.880 And so we have a lot of isolated folk that want to be part of things, want to come out to events, but it's just not feasible for them, especially our folks in Canada where the travel and laws are a little more restrictive and people that are in Alaska where they're just geographically isolated.
00:57:44.180 So we started doing this Teams call every Sunday night at 6 p.m. Pacific Standard Time.
00:57:49.400 It's available for all AFA members where we get together and we talk, we share where we're at, we do little projects, and we have discussions on things.
00:58:01.620 And it's a way of getting together and bridging geographic gaps.
00:58:05.800 So we call it the Unity call because we're uniting people no matter where they are.
00:58:09.660 That's, again, Sunday, 6 p.m. Pacific Standard Time.
00:58:14.180 I think we may have lost you there.
00:58:23.740 We good?
00:58:25.080 All right.
00:58:25.620 We are good.
00:58:26.140 We are back.
00:58:28.520 So the next question is,
00:58:32.460 any thoughts on basing life's decisions off symbolism in your dreams?
00:58:37.240 Should they be given any credence?
00:58:40.920 Those are two very different questions.
00:58:44.900 basing life's decisions off symbols in your dreams is probably not a smart way to go
00:58:51.700 should they have any credence absolutely they should be given some credence but context is
00:58:57.060 everything and being able to properly understand your dreams and separate
00:59:06.900 the meaningful from the not meaningful is an art unto itself and when i don't think
00:59:13.220 anyone is perfect at there are some people who are certainly better at it than others
00:59:19.860 dreams matter but
00:59:26.180 they certainly shouldn't be your sole decision-making process i think that's just irresponsible
00:59:34.180 one of the things about our existence is the use of will our will and then our
00:59:40.100 Our ability to think and to plan things is one of the essential functions of our existence
00:59:47.540 as people, and certainly as Arians, is our ability to make decisions.
00:59:54.580 Your dreams factoring into those decisions, I think that's fantastic.
00:59:58.780 Your dreams being the sole decision maker on all of your things, I think that that is
01:00:05.060 a recipe for disaster.
01:00:06.300 um do you have any special thoughts on dreams tyler i think they're a really good way to confirm
01:00:14.440 positions you've come to through meditation pondering thinking talking to your
01:00:21.500 your people close to you i think oftentimes we do get confirmation through dreams i think we can
01:00:27.860 get advice through dreams but i wouldn't go out and do whatever every dream says there's a
01:00:33.940 difference between dreams that matter and the dreams you have you have a dream
01:00:37.180 about a French fry it's probably not going to be something you want to base
01:00:40.720 your life on but you have some profound spiritual dream where you wake up in the
01:00:44.400 middle of night and you just can't get out of your head you might want to think
01:00:47.320 on that for a while so everything with a grain of salt when it comes to dreams
01:00:52.560 think on it longer than you would regular advice don't leap to decisions
01:00:57.700 based on dreams use dreams if they matter to help you make informed
01:01:02.420 decisions that would be my advice about dreams that's the thing not all dreams are created equal
01:01:09.140 there's absolutely dream things that happen because you were watching something on tv that
01:01:14.740 night you fell asleep to it and it put itself there there's you know a lot of random things
01:01:23.100 that can happen but then you know those of us that have been open to that for a long time
01:01:28.600 And there are some dreams that you just can't get out of your mind that stick with you crystal clear years later because they did speak of a profound truth.
01:01:38.880 They might have been a message in some way.
01:01:41.860 Sometimes that message comes from you internally.
01:01:44.380 Sometimes that message comes from a God or an ancestor.
01:01:47.580 But we should never ignore our dreams or discount them or throw them out.
01:01:53.940 So figuring out how to sort through what matters and what doesn't, and then when it matters, exactly what message it's trying to convey to you, that can take a lifetime in and of itself.
01:02:10.500 So, yeah, it's a complex, it's a very complex matrix on how, how much and what to factor in of your dreams and your decision making factors.
01:02:21.380 but i think that tyler's point you made about it being a good thing to confirm or give you cause
01:02:27.860 for pause and second thought on something is a very reasonable way to utilize your dreams
01:02:36.260 um the next question fought on kanye west and his increasingly based opinions right-wing leanings
01:02:44.100 and the fact that he wore a white lives matter shirt which stirred up outrage by the way
01:02:49.460 uh tyler you got any any thoughts on based yay i don't have a whole lot of thoughts on it i i
01:02:58.620 tend to try to focus on things that matter uh e-celebrities and their peculiarities their
01:03:05.960 them being based or cringed really doesn't factor into my everyday i would say his shirt
01:03:12.300 white lives matter being controversial is uh is irrelevant to you what you guys need to be pursuing
01:03:19.080 maybe I'm just a bit of a
01:03:22.440 cynic when it comes to e-celebrities but I think
01:03:24.520 focusing on
01:03:25.940 the real world and things that matter is more
01:03:28.320 important than worrying about what
01:03:30.260 some Kardashian
01:03:31.880 or whatever the kids
01:03:34.380 are listening to or looking at now
01:03:35.920 they just don't matter so I would say
01:03:38.260 just if someone
01:03:40.300 is agreeing with your world view
01:03:41.920 or disagreeing with your world view obviously
01:03:44.220 that factors into your opinions of them
01:03:45.880 but their opinions shouldn't factor into your everyday
01:03:48.340 life
01:03:49.080 So I don't spend a great deal of my time contemplating the social media posts of Kanye West.
01:04:02.600 That said, and I hate to even use the term, but I think folks are familiar with it, so I will.
01:04:15.320 Life has a way of red pilling people.
01:04:19.080 But the more life you live and the older you get and the more you watch the damage that's being done to every facet of life by the current woke current of things, that wave has made a lot of very middle of the road people by today's standards seem based and having right wing leanings.
01:04:43.800 I don't think that's the case. I think what is interesting about Kanye's situation, and it comes on the heels of a number of other, I'd say blacks and a lot of different highly visible fields, but specifically rappers have been relatively vocal about it.
01:05:03.060 just some common sense they're starting to starting to realize ways that things are
01:05:12.000 rigged in a really bad way with a lot of these things done by a group of people that historically
01:05:20.100 have taken their support for granted and have championed them they you know
01:05:26.300 a lot of people in celebrity doesn't always remove you and your vision from all of the
01:05:35.120 things going on it has a way of insulating certainly there's a lot of people in all walks
01:05:40.240 of life that are kind of waking up and saying hey things things aren't like we're being told
01:05:45.640 and uh yeah we should have something that's remotely traditional to something our parents
01:05:52.040 would have found acceptable or better yet something our grandparents might have found
01:05:56.840 acceptable i think this is you know an extension of some of that um i think very often we need to
01:06:04.200 stop and reconsider that maybe quote unquote based opinions and quote unquote right-wing
01:06:09.880 right-wing leanings are just common sense and that a
01:06:15.240 a left-leaning moderate of the 1990s is an extreme right-wing fanatic of today without
01:06:25.640 changing any of their views but society has radically changed in a pretty you know a pretty
01:06:32.460 bad way in a pretty short time certainly in the west so i think that's you know that's my thoughts
01:06:38.580 on Kanye's situation, and also I do think it certainly gives him a certain amount of revitalized
01:06:46.560 media attention for a few minutes. Honestly, my favorite period in Norse history is the Bronze
01:06:55.360 Age. I truly wish we knew more about it. Do you think that etymology is the best route to help
01:07:01.780 Reconstruct what they believed.
01:07:07.620 Let's say you, Tyler.
01:07:11.200 I think no matter what era, Bronze Age or otherwise,
01:07:15.880 if you want to get closer to what your ancestors believed,
01:07:20.140 the best way to do it is through practice and ritual.
01:07:23.180 It is not through becoming a hermit and going through scholarly papers.
01:07:29.200 You can certainly gain a lot of information from learning.
01:07:31.780 there's nothing wrong with scholarly pursuits, but if you really want to get down to brass tacks,
01:07:37.700 just practice your faith.
01:07:44.260 You know, that's, and please don't get me wrong.
01:07:49.460 um the bronze age is fascinating and you know to that the neolithic age is extremely fascinating
01:08:03.480 and unfortunately it's the further back in history you go the harder it is to
01:08:09.900 get the burning answers to all of our questions because so much is washed away by the sands of
01:08:17.860 time. And I think that's just true of our existence. I think etymology is a very valuable
01:08:29.920 tool in better understanding lore. I think in the Bronze Age, again, the further you
01:08:41.160 go back especially when you get in further northern climates you have less and less writing
01:08:48.360 the further you go back now bronze age writing in the mediterranean and other areas you have a lot
01:08:57.640 but up north you don't have nearly as much um your
01:09:02.360 your best bet for understanding
01:09:08.140 the specifics of how bronze age people worshipped
01:09:15.340 that may be your best bet archaeology can help you figure out some stuff
01:09:24.020 to better connect with your bronze age ancestors and to get a better understanding of
01:09:33.260 how they believed I think your best step is to jump in and practice house of truth the way we
01:09:41.700 do it now and use that as a way to use that as a starting point in a context to speculate on
01:09:52.220 and i think we do this in the inverse a lot i think we take elements of the past and we try
01:10:01.940 to scale them up through history of what how they might have how they might develop
01:10:05.820 i think rather than questioning how they might let's look at how they have developed
01:10:11.340 let's look at modern aussitude and then scale that back to the bronze age thinking
01:10:17.000 well what would this have looked like in their con in their social context in where they were
01:10:23.440 living how would if we were going to do an afa bloat for 2023 but we were bronze age tribesmen
01:10:31.600 on the baltic somewhere what would we have done and i think that's going to get you much closer
01:10:38.700 it's one of those things that you know just as a as a flight of fancy i i've always
01:10:43.920 I've always wondered, you know, what people at different times would think if they watched something the AFA was doing, if they watched one of our rituals.
01:10:55.100 and it is my sincere belief and hope that you know a viking age guy from norway uh germanic
01:11:09.140 tribesmen from you know the turn of the the first millennium or of the zero point of the
01:11:16.400 Millenniums, I guess, someone in the Bronze Age or in the Neolithic that was our folk,
01:11:24.920 they wouldn't understand the words that we were saying. Some of them may recognize the names of
01:11:32.080 the gods we were using. They wouldn't understand the clothes that we were wearing or the setting
01:11:41.780 that we were in maybe but i believe that they all would understand the process of what was going on
01:11:49.060 and i believe very strongly they would feel the communal worship and that they would feel that
01:11:54.980 connection with our gods because our gods aren't bound by language or by time our bound our gods
01:12:03.220 would connect with those people standing in the circle just as well as they would connect with us
01:12:10.260 assuming that those people were sincere in their in their worship and the practice of
01:12:14.260 house of truth um and i think that they would understand what we're doing and so i think that
01:12:19.860 that's getting in in that mindset and then scaling that back towards their circumstance
01:12:26.340 isn't going to be perfect but i think that's going to get you closer than
01:12:30.100 some of the other the other things that are possible
01:12:39.540 Oh, so, yep. Usually I handle a bunch of this at the beginning, but due to our technical
01:12:50.140 difficulties, I neglected to. Winter Nights coming up last weekend of this month at Sigurheim
01:12:58.580 in Jackson County, Tennessee. Please come and join us. It is going to be awesome. We talked
01:13:06.420 about how at winter nights, the veil between the world is thinnest. And that's the time for
01:13:13.500 communicating with people across the veil. Some of you may or may not know, we have a graveyard
01:13:19.480 on the Sigurheim property. Very old graveyard. As a matter of fact, I interred my mother's ashes
01:13:27.440 there um in july but we have and we're still it's was in such bad condition when we took ownership
01:13:38.320 and we're remedying that but we're still searching for a number of these graves but there are
01:13:45.840 as far as we are aware there should be 13 graves at minimum there
01:13:52.400 um many of them from the early or many of them from the mid 1800s we actually have a a gentleman
01:14:01.280 there who was a revolutionary who fought in the revolutionary war and he's his remains are there
01:14:11.120 and we're going to be doing the de-seer blow in that graveyard amongst uh amongst the the remains
01:14:19.040 our ancestors of these ancestors there in that really special place and so it's going to be a
01:14:25.360 really great event i look forward to everyone here making it if you guys can please reach out to your
01:14:30.400 folk builder and get all set up i would love to see you guys there but it's going to be a very
01:14:34.880 very special event also feast of the iron here you are in south dakota coming up november 10th
01:14:43.040 through the 12th i would love to see you guys there it's going to be spectacular it's going
01:14:48.160 going to be awesome i'm going to be there i believe the mcnallans are going to be there
01:14:52.480 and it's going to be a really good event so i hope you guys can make it out we would love to see you
01:14:56.800 there um matt thought on thoughts on what's going on with palestine this is a disaster and i think
01:15:12.720 I think it means more refugees.
01:15:18.780 So,
01:15:24.840 it's a nuanced thing and there's a lot going on.
01:15:35.320 Will it mean more refugees?
01:15:37.720 Maybe, probably.
01:15:42.720 The battle between Muslims and Jews, between Arabs and Jews in that part of the world is ancient and ongoing and probably will continue to be so.
01:16:00.520 Neither of those groups of people are our people, and I think in a lot of ways we don't have a particular dog in that fight.
01:16:10.600 i certainly don't have a particular dog in that fight what i will say is
01:16:18.520 needless suffering of women and children is bad and makes me sad and i feel bad for those people
01:16:27.640 whatever kind of people they might be i feel bad for women and children suffering the ravages of
01:16:34.120 war um i think that's awful when either side of people does that i think targeting civilians is
01:16:44.840 is a terrible thing to do and i think that's kind of a an understood part of what makes us
01:16:51.560 aryan people is that that is abhorrent to our to our soul on a certain level
01:16:58.680 I think our people are the people that have established.
01:17:04.040 Good night, Aubrey.
01:17:06.080 I love you too.
01:17:07.760 I think that our people are people who have established proper codes of conduct in those kind of situations to minimize suffering by women and children.
01:17:20.620 And so I think that's a thing that stands out that is always, always painful to see happen.
01:17:28.680 I mean, I'm paying attention like everybody else, I'm curious about what's going on.
01:17:34.920 But yeah, that's what stands out to me.
01:17:36.360 Do you have any thoughts on that, Tyler?
01:17:39.960 I mean, it's only a big can of worms.
01:17:45.140 I'd say that area has historically always been contentious.
01:17:50.620 I don't think there's many modern countries that don't have some sort of past where their
01:17:55.620 gentry classes try to claim that land is theirs.
01:17:58.680 And with that, in the modern context, I think my approach to the Middle East and all foreign conflicts to this, not my land, not my problem. I think we need to focus on what we can do. And of course, I feel for any undue suffering or needless collateral damage within any conflict.
01:18:20.380 But there was never a timeline where they weren't going to fight over land they both claimed.
01:18:27.620 So with that, you know, whatever your personal thoughts are on the subject are, I think the big takeaway is it's unfortunate when civilians get involved and when we're dealing with urban environments, there's going to be a lot of that.
01:18:43.280 that said do not let those unfortunate collateral damage which unfortunately is just a part of
01:18:51.060 warfare when you deal with large amounts of ordinance don't let that get you emotionally
01:18:55.260 hyped up to where you put yourself in a situation where you think you're invested in someone else's
01:18:59.960 fight four more do not benefit us you know what i've got a another thing that i want to say what
01:19:07.980 But what is unfortunate in our circles, and this is following upon Tyler's comment about letting yourself get emotionally drawn in, because the circles that people on this show run in, a lot of people have some ingrained views on stuff.
01:19:29.640 And it's very, very easy to get emotionally wrapped up and to start fighting amongst ourselves over something thousands of miles away involving different tribes of people that are not ours.
01:19:44.840 um i would caution against that as strongly as i can allowing a conflict between arabs and jews to
01:19:56.960 destabilize relationships we have amongst ourselves
01:20:02.420 that's that's an unforced error that just doesn't need to be there
01:20:09.820 So I would urge people who get worked up about that to exercise a certain amount of grace
01:20:24.960 in dealing with your fellow Alcetruar, your fellow Aryans, your fellow people who are
01:20:32.740 in our circles allow for people to get emotional about certain stuff and cut each other some slack
01:20:42.500 on it a little bit so that we don't become entrenched over an issue that really
01:20:48.820 shouldn't fundamentally affect us i do think this is going to be an excuse for western
01:20:54.660 governments specifically our government to throw lots of of our hard-earned money
01:20:59.060 at other people to get other benefits out of it
01:21:04.040 that we're not going to see.
01:21:05.120 And I think that's really unfortunate.
01:21:06.700 We've got a very bad habit of doing that.
01:21:11.320 Our next question is, I guess, a two-part question.
01:21:16.020 Is it wrong to say that all the gods are all powerful,
01:21:20.700 at least in our level of reality,
01:21:22.680 but delegate their powers to an extent?
01:21:29.060 Two, for example, can all gods create lightning, but just decide not to and leave that job to Thor?
01:21:37.480 I think that, so I'll answer the last question, the last part of that question first.
01:21:46.720 I think it is far too
01:21:54.140 I think it's missing the point
01:21:58.620 and I don't think it's accurate
01:22:00.580 to again see Thor in that one dimension
01:22:04.340 or to assign all pieces of nature
01:22:09.780 must be to one of the gods
01:22:11.500 Thor
01:22:14.260 Thor, the association of lightning and Thor is a way for our ancestors to communicate to us the might and the power and the quick reaction of Thor.
01:22:32.440 The fear and the terror at the heavens striking down at the earth tells you about Thor, helps you conceptualize Thor.
01:22:46.120 Every piece of lightning is not the intentioned will of Thor.
01:22:51.560 We can explain lots of lightning by lots of weather patterns and meteorology that we all understand.
01:22:57.860 Natural things happen because they've been set in motion to happen.
01:23:02.100 Now, the gods can work through nature to express their will in specific ways,
01:23:10.160 but it doesn't mean every circumstance of that.
01:23:13.380 Odin sends ravens to communicate messages.
01:23:16.880 Ravens absolutely can be signs of the gods.
01:23:20.340 But more often than not, ravens are just ravens out there living their life being ravens.
01:23:24.840 just because a God works through something that's natural
01:23:29.480 doesn't mean all instances of that natural phenomenon
01:23:32.940 are the intentioned will of one of those gods
01:23:36.500 I don't think it works that way
01:23:37.840 also
01:23:40.040 I don't see reason to believe that any gods are all powerful
01:23:47.860 all powerful would take away struggle
01:23:50.660 and we see struggle throughout our lore
01:23:53.280 our gods are extremely powerful there are other forces that have a lot of power too
01:24:01.820 um but when we look at at the the bigger forces of the universe I think it's kind of a ridiculous
01:24:13.000 claim by other people that their gods are all-powerful because clearly the world doesn't
01:24:23.560 work like that when when gods when every single thing is the will of of an all-powerful singular
01:24:29.680 god and there's no other things that can act upon it that god is the only thing that has power
01:24:34.660 then they bear a certain amount of responsibility for every bad thing that happens
01:24:42.340 I don't think that's one of the things about our lore that's refreshing.
01:24:46.280 Our gods aren't responsible for all of the suffering in existence.
01:24:51.540 Our gods are responsible for a lot of the not suffering,
01:24:55.120 a lot of the great things and the joy that exists.
01:24:59.000 We try to work the will of our gods in Midgard
01:25:04.100 to alleviate suffering and bad things for our folk.
01:25:07.280 There's a lot of things that relate to the benefit in society that our gods provide through their benevolence, but there's never been a claim that they are all powerful over all things.
01:25:20.780 There's certainly an interplay of power between our gods and other forces in the universe, and I think our lore says that very clearly.
01:25:29.580 i think the only thing i'd add to that is all powerful is a very human perspective
01:25:43.200 if you were to compare an infant a three-month-old baby for instance to a 45-year-old professional
01:25:51.420 flat roof i think we would safely say that in terms of roofing the 45-year-old is all powerful
01:25:57.560 comparatively so a little bit of perspective our gods are absolutely very powerful but
01:26:04.520 scale it yeah they're orders of magnitude more powerful than you or i but as far as gods go
01:26:16.280 no there's not that level of that's not the way the universe works
01:26:23.160 uh what are your thoughts on freya and ostara being the same goddess
01:26:27.560 Tom Rousel makes the claim that they might be the same, similar to how Yngvi and Freyja are the same, and considering Freyja and Freyja mean lord and lady, he claims that Freyja's actual name is Yngvi, and that it's possible that Freyja's actual name is Ostara.
01:26:49.140 Thoughts on this?
01:26:51.660 Sure.
01:26:52.300 Um, I don't like to do this, but I think that it's, it's right to take questions and answer
01:27:10.080 them honestly.
01:27:11.740 I don't want my focus on here to ever be beaten up on other people that are, you know, in
01:27:20.920 broad terms on our side about some stuff but i do think i gotta answer questions honestly
01:27:27.800 i think tom rousell focuses on scholarship and studies about the gods
01:27:33.640 instead of worshiping the gods and i think that really affects the way that he goes about these
01:27:41.240 things. No, I don't think that Freya and Ostara are the same goddess. There's no reason to think
01:27:56.000 they are the same. And in order for me to consider that I might be wrong in that, I would need
01:28:07.200 significant reason. And there's zero reasoning in the argument that was just displayed, if that's how Tom Rousel thinks. Yes, frere means Lord, and frere means lady.
01:28:25.460 Tyre means God.
01:28:28.820 All three of those persons are persons who were afforded that title by our ancestors.
01:28:37.680 Zero of those three gods came down and says,
01:28:41.760 Hi, my name's Frey.
01:28:44.140 Hi, my name's Freya.
01:28:46.580 No, our ancestors assigned those names to the spirits that interacted with them as our gods.
01:28:55.460 and I think it's it's wrongheaded to try to needlessly consolidate things that just aren't
01:29:04.340 true Yngwie and Freyer are obviously the same that's an obvious truth and the reasoning is
01:29:12.380 clear so that's okay but the trouble with guys in this when when your bread and butter is
01:29:21.620 uncovering secret nuggets of scholarship then every time you find the slightest thing that
01:29:31.500 might be an exception to a rule you focus all your attention on the on the uh the exception
01:29:38.360 instead of the rule because that's what gives you that's what makes your show interesting that's
01:29:43.900 what makes you have gravitas in the field if you're just restating what everyone said before
01:29:49.400 you then you don't have any there's no you're not an e-celebrity at that point
01:29:55.720 so we have a number of people really distorting a lot of things because they find one minute
01:30:03.640 example of how it could possibly something be something different and they immediately throw
01:30:08.440 all their weight behind that because that's their pet theory that's what gives them legitimacy in
01:30:14.360 in the e-celebrity world.
01:30:21.960 What scholars think matters so much less to me
01:30:26.400 than what priests and worshipers of our gods
01:30:29.880 with a proven track record of consistent interaction think.
01:30:37.960 People who practice Ausatru don't think
01:30:40.540 that those are the same.
01:30:42.180 they don't think that Freya and Wastara are the same.
01:30:46.180 Scholars that contemplate how ancient people
01:30:50.040 might have practiced Ausatru
01:30:52.440 are the ones that come with those exotic theories.
01:30:57.440 And I don't know, I think it's very insulting.
01:31:02.280 Listening to, you know, it's been a while
01:31:04.480 because I just didn't,
01:31:10.080 found it insulting and I found it
01:31:12.180 not helpful. So I haven't listened to his show in a really long time, but he spends all of his time
01:31:17.480 postulating on what it would be like if Ausatru existed instead of practicing Ausatru and
01:31:24.360 realizing that it has been active and in existence now for over 50 years and sincerely practiced by
01:31:31.520 generations of people. And to just negate that, to want to postulate about, you know,
01:31:38.840 Let's pretend Asatru doesn't exist in a modern form so we can endlessly navel-gaze about bits of ancestral archaeology.
01:31:51.720 It's very insulting, and I don't think it's just insulting to us.
01:31:56.280 I think it's insulting to the gods.
01:31:58.340 The gods have been actively engaged in the gift cycle with us for all of that time.
01:32:03.840 And they've been manifesting in the lives of our folk for all that time in a really beautiful way.
01:32:12.080 And to negate all that because it's cooler to just be the armchair, you know, analyst of ancient Ausitrus, it's unfortunate.
01:32:22.360 um the other thing i think there's this constant need to try to reduce our gods or to drag them
01:32:32.620 down closer to us for our benefit rather than to elevate ourselves closer to them and i think that
01:32:40.800 starts by you know trying to simplify the things we don't understand rather than to raise ourselves
01:32:46.220 to a better level of understanding.
01:32:50.980 Are you a fan of Survive the Job?
01:32:53.340 Do you listen to a lot of his stuff, Tyler?
01:32:58.500 I really don't follow him too intently.
01:33:01.320 I view his Telegram channel here and there,
01:33:05.440 but it's not my go-to.
01:33:08.640 I've harped a lot already tonight
01:33:10.440 about the impracticalities of a holy scholastic approach,
01:33:17.440 a holy like big brain, hot take intellectual pursuit.
01:33:22.440 So I'll probably just leave it there.
01:33:28.440 Hot take.
01:33:29.440 Yeah, and I'll say this.
01:33:33.440 I got to meet Mr. Rousel one time at a Northwest Forum
01:33:39.440 in washington very polite little nice guy i'm sure he's a great guy i don't my intention is
01:33:47.120 not to be insulting or not to suggest that he's not a really good guy he probably is uh he was
01:33:54.480 to me the the few minutes that i spoke with him but i think that i think he's wrong in his approach
01:34:01.200 to australian i really wish that you know i really wish he would join and get on the team
01:34:05.680 and uh help us all move forward um so with the talk about winter nights
01:34:18.080 i want everybody listening to this to realize there's a winter night celebration going on at
01:34:24.800 all four of our hafs as well as the one at sigerheim so it's five afa sponsored winter
01:34:33.280 nights things that you guys should be going to now i gotta find ah my camera's backwards so i gotta
01:34:39.760 find where it finds my hand there we go cool that was just a big way to say we got five things going
01:34:45.600 on all right so we know it's getting late no that said there are these in case you guys don't know
01:34:53.360 in case you guys are just listening to the program we have odenshoff in brownsville california it's
01:34:59.600 in northern california um would love to see you guys there from winter nights it's a special time
01:35:06.800 of year it's going to be amazing we're all looking forward to it it's going to be great
01:35:10.720 you should be there if you can but if you can't maybe you're on the other coast
01:35:17.200 well we've got something for you at thorshoff in linden north carolina we're also celebrating
01:35:23.200 winter nights there come out be part of it thorshoff is an amazing amazing place with
01:35:28.640 wonderful people some of our very best people come out celebrate winter nights with us if you
01:35:34.640 can't make it there in murdoch minnesota we're having winter nights at baldursoff again amazing
01:35:43.040 people at an amazing temple to one of our gods come there celebrate winter nights and if you
01:35:50.080 can't make it there maybe you can make it to new york's hof in white springs florida it's in north
01:35:56.960 florida um come on out celebrate experience winter nights with us be part of it and if you can't make
01:36:07.760 it to any of those or if you can make it to all of those probably can't because i think they're all
01:36:12.400 on the same day but the following weekend we're having the winter nights at siggerheim and we'd
01:36:18.000 love to see you guys there wherever you're at take time to honor your ancestors this winter nights
01:36:24.720 Experience it, reach out, and stand with open mind and open heart to receive messages from your loved ones beyond.
01:36:33.260 And some really, really special things can happen.
01:36:38.140 Currently, I'm trying to convert my girlfriend with me, to convert my girlfriend with me, and I'm making some progress.
01:36:49.860 I'm wondering how far I should take it before trying to bring her into events and into the AFA.
01:36:58.220 So, Barry, you know your girlfriend better than I do, and context is everything.
01:37:04.780 So I can give you some general guidelines of what I think on it.
01:37:09.380 Tyler can give you some general ideas of what he thinks.
01:37:13.140 End of the day, you know her better than we do.
01:37:15.600 Tyler, what would you say to Barry's question?
01:37:19.040 again i i would need to know more to give you very specific ideas but i would say in general
01:37:25.720 if you're looking to bring your significant other whether you're a man talking about your woman or
01:37:30.380 you're a woman talking about your man if you want to make make it happen the best way to do it is
01:37:35.120 just be open with what you believe lead by example and get them involved in the community
01:37:40.480 i like many others got into the spirituality of astro by seeking the community of astro and
01:37:47.560 we have some really, really great people. So get them linked up with great people,
01:37:51.780 and it will naturally happen. That would be my advice to you.
01:37:57.840 So
01:37:58.440 I don't, I think the limitations are more
01:38:09.900 on her and what she's comfortable with. If she is
01:38:13.780 very reluctant, and she is
01:38:17.300 and that is a big problem then there may need to be some reassurance um so okay if she is
01:38:25.900 completely scared to go and be involved with people because she has no idea what she's going
01:38:31.060 to find what these strange people are what they're up to this is crazy i don't know about
01:38:35.780 interacting with these folks in that case i would suggest um get her to
01:38:44.020 watch and we just put out one every quarter we put out one this slideshow of all the different
01:38:49.900 people you know all the different afa gatherings that we have pictures for in a given quarter
01:38:55.700 um that gets an idea just across the world who we've got for members what they look like
01:39:03.020 you know smiling happy people celebrating and spending time together and i think that's
01:39:10.180 the picture's worth a thousand words that shows who we are and what we're doing
01:39:14.680 if there's a specific event or a specific hoff that you want to bring her to then each of the
01:39:21.080 big afa events that happen have a video made about them again of like a slideshow but it's
01:39:27.880 specific about the place that she would be going so you know for midsummer at odin's hoff you get
01:39:35.780 to see a number of, you get to see 40 or 50 different pictures of all of the great things
01:39:43.540 that went on at Odenshof at Midsommar, and she'd get a sense of the place and the kind
01:39:48.680 of people she's going to meet and an idea of what to expect. And I think that could
01:39:52.900 be really helpful. Beyond that, when is a good time to bring her around? Immediately.
01:40:03.040 immediately I mean I think it's always a good time unless you know unless either she has some
01:40:11.740 kind of a social problem that makes her uncomfortable around groups of people or
01:40:16.660 unless she's got problems where we don't want her around that she needs to work on
01:40:22.540 um assuming that neither of those are the case then bring her around immediately
01:40:28.000 um bring her to an event now I think that participation depends on a couple of things
01:40:33.840 so her observing what we do as your as your significant you know your girlfriend of some
01:40:41.440 importance we would love to have that happen regardless assuming she's you know one of our
01:40:46.640 fault um that said in order to participate in something she doesn't have to be a committed
01:40:55.200 at Ausatruar to participate. What she does have to do is go in with an openness and a desire to
01:41:03.560 connect with our gods. She doesn't have to believe in him. She has to want to believe him. And so if
01:41:11.220 she's like, hey, I'm here. I'm listening. I'm going to try. Here I am. Okay, that's great. That's a
01:41:19.540 It's a fine place to start.
01:41:21.540 Unlike some other faiths, we don't ask some kind of blind acceptance of our gods
01:41:29.200 and then devote your life entirely day one to these deities that you've had no interaction with.
01:41:38.880 What we do ask is a sincerity and an openness.
01:41:42.900 And if you desire to become house of truth, then that's a good place to start.
01:41:47.740 and there's the same criteria to have her have her join in the AFA and be part of what we're
01:41:52.240 doing um also true is her birthright as much as it's any of ours so that's what I would say to
01:41:59.520 that real quick piggybacking off of that every ninth of the month I've been trying to put
01:42:07.400 together something we can do no matter where you are this upcoming 9th of November what we're going
01:42:13.340 be doing is we're going to be doing a not necessarily a bake-off but a little communal
01:42:18.380 baking where no matter if you get together as a small group or in your own home this november
01:42:24.700 9th we're focusing on using a recipe whose primary ingredient is pumpkin trying to keep it thematic
01:42:30.300 to the time of year and then also having a little bit of fun to see what people are coming up with
01:42:35.180 that's a super easy and super tame and not scary thing to do if she has any reservations or
01:42:41.820 hesitations about being part of you know a larger ask her group i would say that's an easy easy win
01:42:48.300 for you get her in the kitchen with you have fun make it a date make something with pumpkin
01:42:54.060 this primary ingredient november 9th and you get to participate in something no matter where you
01:42:58.220 are geographically we all get together and we do this together despite the geographic barrier so
01:43:02.860 that's a really easy thing to do so just looking at the chat um while tyler was was talking there
01:43:09.500 for a second a couple of really good things came up from some of our ladies
01:43:16.060 sumble is a really good event is a really good ritual to participate in if the idea of bloat is
01:43:24.060 too far outside of her norm to interact with gods that she's not familiar with or whatever the case
01:43:31.020 might be sumble is a time where she can pass on the gods around if she wants she can talk about
01:43:38.140 one of her ancestors in the second round if she would like to and then she can make a toast in
01:43:43.340 the third round if she'd like to but sambal is a really special event as a really special ritual
01:43:49.820 that brings people close in a very very personal and often very emotional way
01:43:55.260 and i think that's something she may get a lot out of the other thing comes from githya anna
01:44:01.660 it is very beneficial to hurry up bring her to an event and introduce her to the ladies there
01:44:10.240 I think one of the biggest things if you can get her to one of the Hoffs and again I'm not sure
01:44:14.600 where you're located so Barry if you can tell us where you're located it will help us direct this
01:44:20.280 a little bit better but assuming you can make it to one of our Hoffs getting her to interact with
01:44:26.880 ladies at that hof is a very special thing and it will make her feel so much more comfortable
01:44:34.240 about what we're doing because she'll see all the kids and all the women and she'll she can become
01:44:39.520 part of that group share with them build those bonds in a special way that's very often women
01:44:46.240 who come out to these don't necessarily do as up front with the men there especially if this is
01:44:52.400 their first time showing up them getting in with with the ladies of these different hoffs
01:44:57.920 is a really powerful thing and i can't i can't recommend that enough
01:45:08.560 what are your thoughts on what's been going on in russia ukraine um
01:45:17.760 so this one's this one's different than the previous conflict we were asked about because
01:45:22.080 these are are our folk ethnically um one thing i think is we don't really know all the details on
01:45:35.200 all the things there doesn't always need to be a bad guy it's very tempting depending on where you
01:45:44.320 you have people from if you know maybe your ancestors are russian maybe your ancestors
01:45:51.600 are ukraine maybe you know people still living in one of the two countries it's very easy to
01:45:59.840 pick a side based on that i think that a lot of us and i think that if your only source of
01:46:05.600 information is watching american news about it you need to be aware that that's extremely biased
01:46:12.720 to who's you know who our political overlords have decided is the good guys and who are the bad guys
01:46:21.200 and i don't think that's a i don't think that's an honest view no matter
01:46:25.840 no matter what the case is i don't think what the media is presenting us is a very honest
01:46:32.000 what i will say is that
01:46:34.800 it saddens me for any loss of life amongst our folk I don't
01:46:48.000 you know I feel for Ukrainian mothers daughters sons
01:46:56.700 of people who are dying in this conflict I feel bad for Russian mothers and daughters
01:47:02.340 sons of people who are dying in the conflict um yeah i sympathize with people who suffer
01:47:11.300 i especially sympathize with those of our folk who suffer and that's unfortunate i don't claim
01:47:19.300 to be an expert on that conflict i don't claim to be an expert on the parties involved or the
01:47:26.020 geopolitical reasons for all of the things and even if i did i don't think it's the afa's place
01:47:31.700 to endorse you know regional geopolitics per se but what i do think that i can say for the afa is
01:47:40.020 we're sad when uh russian boys and ukrainian boys are fighting and dying over stuff that's uh
01:47:50.100 that's sad there's a lot of suffering going on that's unfortunate what are your thoughts tyler
01:47:54.660 they mirror yours perfectly i will say if you understand the the dynamic of that region and the
01:48:04.260 history of the region you understand that a fight like this was unfortunately fairly inevitable
01:48:09.700 just because of the geopolitical tension that said there will based on the historical trends
01:48:16.340 of the area be a return to peace and then return to conflict it is a is an area that is really
01:48:22.260 good at fighting itself and we as a people are very good fighting ourselves and we need to take
01:48:26.980 the time to focus on promoting unity promoting love of our own people and the health of our own
01:48:33.700 people and that is going to come back to what i've been harping on all night start with yourself
01:48:39.220 start with your community start with your nation then then worry about the world get yourself right
01:48:45.060 and the the reality is you as an individual cannot change what's happening in ukraine or russia so
01:48:49.380 So start with fixing your own home.
01:48:52.460 Absolutely.
01:48:54.340 Next question.
01:48:56.160 Thoughts on the saying, everyone has a little bit of everything in regards to race and ethnicity.
01:49:03.000 I was always told this growing up.
01:49:05.240 Where do you think the saying comes from?
01:49:07.200 And to get more conspiratorial, do you think sentiments such as this were designed to specifically target whites
01:49:15.200 and to guilt us into not having an ethnic identity.
01:49:20.480 So again, as I like to do on some of these things,
01:49:22.940 I'll answer the last question first.
01:49:26.960 Do I think it was designed that way?
01:49:29.040 I don't know.
01:49:30.560 Do I think it is currently being used that way?
01:49:32.900 Absolutely.
01:49:36.220 Where it comes from is curious, and I'm not sure.
01:49:39.120 And one of the, people not, so, other, and I'm sure that other racial groups have this, but to a American, to a Western eye, we don't see this often.
01:50:05.460 And it is very beneficial to the current way of thinking to consider blacks as a unified, everyone from sub-Saharan Africa equals, you know, this one unified black culture.
01:50:25.540 everyone from asia we say asia but everyone from asia east of india is one people but that white
01:50:38.500 people are this you know menagerie of all these different ethnicities and i think that is very
01:50:47.660 unfair and one-sided and a way to help other groups have a very strong identity while
01:50:55.820 tearing down our identity as a group on the same playing field now that said yes there are lots of
01:51:02.540 different ethnicities amongst white people or sub-ethnic groups amongst white people we celebrate
01:51:09.180 out we know that thing to the extent that in america many of us are a collection of a variety
01:51:19.020 of different european ethnicities that's true i think it's also very true and important to realize
01:51:26.380 that the average black american is a mixture of lots and lots of different tribal groups from
01:51:33.500 africa um i think that asian people are you know a vast difference of different ethnicities in you
01:51:44.860 know the eastern half of the asian continent um there's a variety amongst big racial groups of
01:51:53.260 people but i think this clouds the bigger issue most people are not a mixture of those broad
01:52:01.980 races of people they may be a mixture of a lot of different ethnicities within a race
01:52:09.180 but most people it's still not the norm for people to have all of those different races
01:52:16.780 involved in and i think that's a lie that a lot of people have been told and we've seen that in
01:52:22.940 united states for a really long time and i don't think it originated as a political tool against
01:52:29.900 white folks i think you see a lot of that in the you know as far back as you can go in america as
01:52:37.820 a nation in the southern half of the country you have almost everybody's got some cherokee princess
01:52:43.660 grandma story in their ancestry almost all of those stories are completely not true and made up
01:52:51.580 for what purpose i don't know i think it was socially cool to claim to be part um
01:52:57.100 um part Native American at a time when there was you know kind of a romance to the the noble
01:53:05.140 savage mythology um I don't know but again I don't think especially in that antebellum southern
01:53:13.960 culture I don't think there was some desire to exalt a different race of people or to mitigate
01:53:19.900 white people's pride in themselves I don't think that was the origin but I do think that's what
01:53:25.360 come to do at this at this stage you have thoughts on it tyler i do i'm gonna share a little bit
01:53:33.680 about my wife and i digging into our ancestry together uh it was one of those things where my
01:53:39.520 family and her family both come from you know a culture of uh ancestral veneration even though we
01:53:46.880 weren't from astrew families and with that we had a lot of advantages when it came to genealogy
01:53:51.760 it was really cool to see the difference between ethnic history and geographical history and what
01:53:57.920 i mean by that is we saw that we had a lot of english geographic ancestors but when we looked
01:54:05.920 into it they were straight danelaw so they had they had come over during the great viking invasion
01:54:12.080 and conquered land and stayed there we had people that were pioneers they followed the
01:54:17.760 handcart companies over across america we had family that both settled settled maine it's one
01:54:24.080 of those things where if you really know your history if you know your family's history
01:54:29.120 you start to see that it all kind of starts to coalesce into one larger larger story so when we
01:54:35.760 talk about you know indo-european expansion and people coming along and traveling in different
01:54:42.720 waves what we find is that the whole celt germanic norse slav differences they all have a very
01:54:50.800 similar origin point in fact they have the same origin point so when you talk about ethnogenesis
01:54:56.400 you find that yes we are ethnically distinct but when you go far enough back we all come from the
01:55:02.160 same waves of arian people and that's not to say that racially that's true but ethnically it
01:55:09.840 absolutely is so when we looked at our genealogy when we looked at it ethnically what we found was
01:55:16.000 that our ancient half half groups were so succinct that we could draw a 30 mile radius
01:55:23.760 um and all of our ancient tribes were more than 30 miles her outlier um tribal group was one of
01:55:33.120 my core and my outlier was one of her core but it came from the same 30 miles i think it's really
01:55:37.920 interesting that no matter how much traveling we did how much how much traveling and expansion my
01:55:42.080 ancestors did conquering the traveling be pioneering we ended up together despite the
01:55:47.200 fact that thousands of years ago our families were within 30 miles but in the modern sense we
01:55:54.400 travel thousands we end up within 30 miles of each other as well i think in general when we talk about
01:56:01.440 the the variety of ethnic groups within white folk i think we get so caught up in the weeds
01:56:07.120 of looking at our differences that we don't really notice that reality is we're white people
01:56:13.280 it really is that simple so embrace your heritage be proud of the history of your people the
01:56:19.600 ethnic groups the sub-ethnic groups that you come from because that's
01:56:22.640 ancestral veneration but don't forget that those ancestors all come from the same common stock
01:56:27.200 absolutely um what do you think about the claim that freya and frig are the same
01:56:38.000 that's absurd they're absolutely not um one of the biggest things is you see them
01:56:44.480 representing two very distinct polarities of female existence
01:56:49.680 in Aryan myth cycles generally there are two different kinds of goddesses they're what are
01:57:01.500 called the horse goddess and the cow goddess the idea of the untamed wild outside of societal
01:57:12.240 relationships magical to a degree chaotic female um existence you see that in the sorceress in the
01:57:28.720 the sexualized goddess in the this idea associated with
01:57:36.400 sex, with lust, with magic, with that untamed femininity, you see that very much as hallmarks
01:57:49.500 of Freya. With Frigg, you see the motherly figure, the figure involved in the rearing
01:57:56.260 of children, the goddess of queens, and of ladies of dignity with a social position.
01:58:03.400 women the the unmarried female outside of society you know wild and untamed versus the
01:58:12.380 in the context of society noble motherly figure are two very distinct aspects of femininity and
01:58:20.140 they're two very distinct types of goddesses freya and freg are very obviously two very distinct
01:58:31.280 things. And to
01:58:33.080 put them together as the one is just
01:58:35.280 it's
01:58:37.500 silly and it's this reductionist
01:58:39.580 let's whittle them all
01:58:41.280 down. And where that goes is there's
01:58:43.000 and I've watched this tendency
01:58:45.180 in my time as Ausatru and everyone
01:58:47.300 wants to whittle down monotheism
01:58:49.440 to make it
01:58:50.940 it's just really one god.
01:58:53.060 They're all Odin and they're all one
01:58:55.420 Freya, Frigg
01:58:56.980 complex. It's just a goddess and a
01:58:59.260 god.
01:59:01.280 then if you really twist it the females just like the feminine half of that one god so boom monotheism
01:59:10.080 and it's very wrong-headed but i've watched that tendency a lot and that's as a matter of
01:59:14.400 fact what they do in wicca but that's a that's an entirely a foreign concept in a modern
01:59:24.640 heresy uh against our faith and against polytheism generally
01:59:31.280 um thoughts on the increase of whites losing their jobs or not being hired due to their race
01:59:38.720 do you think that eventually whites will need to be self-employed to make a living
01:59:43.440 no i think that's extreme and absurd if you're talking about
02:00:01.280 um but no i think that's extreme and that's people paying too much attention to dune porn
02:00:09.500 uh there's tons of jobs out there as a matter of fact there's more jobs than people that actually
02:00:14.880 want to want to work and take jobs and i don't i don't think that's real now we are seeing a lot
02:00:22.040 of preference to hire because they need more diversity and more diversity means less white
02:00:30.280 um so that's a problem and i'm not downplaying that or pretending it doesn't exist and it's a
02:00:37.180 problem that has increased and is perhaps increasing it has not and is not anywhere
02:00:44.180 close to increasing to the point where white people can't get jobs it may make it harder for
02:00:50.140 them to get the specific job they want or to get a specific promotion they want and that's really
02:00:54.840 unfortunate and it's unfair and it's all of those things but no i think that thinking that eventually
02:01:03.000 white people won't be able to get a job is not a realistic scenario in most places but like i say
02:01:09.560 places like south africa it kind of depends what say you tyler i think it's an over overstatement
02:01:18.280 to say that white people will be unable to get jobs there absolutely is a stigma against hiring
02:01:25.240 the straight white male applications and diversity hire inclusion acts and corporate policies are
02:01:32.120 definitely pointed a certain direction but you can look at it through that lens of oh i i can't
02:01:38.200 get a job at this corporation but the reality is you're better off taking personal responsibility
02:01:42.760 for your own finances anyway if you want to make money you can work but if you want to make wealth
02:01:48.840 you need to build your own your your own assets get started on something that you would truly
02:01:53.880 enjoy or at least are very good at and start building your own your own company if you can't
02:01:58.440 get work in your field i think it's one of those things where you are better off working for people
02:02:03.960 to share the same values and the same ideas and the same heritage as you or working for yourself
02:02:10.280 and hiring people that have the same values heritage and ideas if it really does come down
02:02:15.720 to the point where you're having trouble finding work because of your ethnicity it is the perfect
02:02:20.360 excuse for you to start taking the person responsible for your own finances and jumping
02:02:24.600 into making your own business instead of being reactionary be actionable don't just stand against
02:02:31.960 something stand for something so if if it comes down to it and work is the problem
02:02:35.800 get to it start your own business that's that's my take on that
02:02:41.140 all right um
02:02:50.980 is there a way okay so this is completely on a different track is there a way to get the
02:03:00.220 hoff toller automatically deducted from our pay um yeah i suppose since we're talking about uh
02:03:08.380 economic opportunities absolutely there is um well okay i say that there is a method to do that
02:03:16.140 whether or not your employer supports that or not is different if you're outside of the united
02:03:21.580 states i have no idea um i've heard it's very different different places in the united states
02:03:28.220 there's a very time-honored tradition of percentage-based religious giving and so
02:03:37.900 companies have kind of a built-in thing in a lot of their payroll departments
02:03:42.540 to deduct a certain percentage or or dollar amount out of their pay to go towards
02:03:49.980 their church or their you know whatever religious institution that they they're a part of
02:03:54.620 as america's become more secular and less religious that stayed on and often you see
02:04:02.300 that for tax reasons going out before your taxes and it will go to a charity you're choosing
02:04:10.220 but that's in place to where a lot of employers in the united states you can have your hr department
02:04:16.300 route your hoftoller through that and your folk builder can get you all set up with that there's
02:04:23.020 a letter to give the hr department that's got the relevant like bank routing information and stuff
02:04:28.780 that way for anyone who might not be familiar the hoff toller is the afa's percentage-based giving
02:04:36.780 that is by far the best way to contribute to the afa and the thing that's made the biggest
02:04:42.140 difference for us is when we have our members contribute we ask at least an honest one percent
02:04:50.300 of your income there's a lot of people to give more i know people that give two i know people
02:04:56.060 give five i know people give ten um i've heard of people giving even more than 10 but i can't vouch
02:05:02.460 for that but you know it's an honest at least one percent of your of your income on on the
02:05:09.820 hoftoller and you can do it through your employer or you can do it however you want there's any
02:05:15.020 number of ways some people do that quarterly some people do it yearly it depends on how your
02:05:21.180 employment situations is set up but yes there's ways to do that through your employer if you're
02:05:26.300 in the united states very often um thoughts on zoroastrianism tyler do you have thoughts on
02:05:35.660 Zoroastrianism. No, I don't give a single thought. Fair enough. So it's interesting.
02:05:56.940 I find it interesting. It is an Arian faith and it's based off of Arian roots,
02:06:03.260 But in a really interesting way, whereas Vedic faith is built upon the central foundations that all Aryan faith is built upon.
02:06:19.820 And obviously over time into Hinduism, it evolves and takes on more foreign influence.
02:06:26.300 um zoroastrianism is a reaction against vedic faith and so it takes the gods of vedic faith
02:06:38.080 and it flips them on their heads and those are the demons and it takes the the demons or the you know
02:06:44.480 the malevolent forces of hindu faith and it flips those and those become kind of the the lesser gods
02:06:54.460 of zoroastrianism culminating into a monotheism of uhura mazda um i think it's interesting i mean
02:07:04.460 history is interesting world religions are interesting it's cool to learn about but i
02:07:12.780 don't think i think it is a in a similar way that buddhism is a reaction to hinduism i think that
02:07:21.740 zoroastrianism is also a reaction to hinduism and one that kind of negates the good parts of hinduism
02:07:31.020 so i like the clear morality between good and evil in zoroastrianism i think that's a cool noble
02:07:44.540 arian theme but i i think that the way that they their treatment of our ancestral gods is poor
02:07:53.100 and ultimately it's a monotheism and it's it's not ours and not what we're doing so i mean it's
02:08:00.780 it's kind of an interesting thing but it's it's not it's not the same in any way as what we're
02:08:07.100 practicing will phrasehoff have uh housing for what okay well
02:08:29.260 all right i'm going to treat these questions like they're serious i'm not sure if this one is i'm
02:08:33.980 not trying to be insulting but when i read it this is kind of one of the out there things
02:08:38.940 uh will phrase hoff having housing for a cougar that will serve not only as a property defense
02:08:45.980 means but also as a method of hunting boar no that's ridiculous um
02:08:54.780 i don't think that's legal i don't think anybody there is going to get an exotic
02:08:59.580 pets license to have a cougar they can go on a boar hunt with i think if people need to hunt
02:09:05.420 boar to supply phrasehoff they'll probably go out with some rifles and get some boar it's 2023
02:09:13.100 i'm not saying it wouldn't be cool i'm not saying it wouldn't be fun to unleash a cougar to go bring
02:09:20.220 you a boar it'd probably be awesome but no that's pretty far-fetched and not really something we're
02:09:25.420 going to do a phrase i will say this in ohio it is legal technically but i don't think you the
02:09:34.380 the asker of that question are prepared to financially back it yourself so i don't think
02:09:39.260 we're going to do a cougar i don't even like i wonder how the infrastructure on how much it would
02:09:46.060 take to feed a cougar because they go through a lot of meat i think the care of of a cougar would be
02:09:55.420 would outweigh the cool factor.
02:10:03.200 Next question, have you guys ever had to deal with anti-whites trying to join the AFA just
02:10:09.780 to get people's information and dox them? No, not ever. That doesn't happen. Realistically,
02:10:16.580 that really does not happen um we have never had one instance of that um sometimes we've had
02:10:28.820 bad actors try to join with obviously not qualifying applications just to get us to
02:10:37.060 say no so they can screech at us but no we've never had somebody trying to infiltrate to get
02:10:43.780 people's information to dox people that's never happened the next question if the hiring of white
02:10:54.500 males is made impossible then can we just put other other and in the blank spot put arians
02:11:04.260 the indo-europeans from form of arian or arias uh the indo-european form of arians
02:11:12.340 sidestepping their evil thoughts no that's ridiculous um you can do that and see what
02:11:19.380 they do with it um if it's entertaining to you but it's rolling the dice i don't think that anybody
02:11:25.940 when they go to actually hire you if the reason that they are excluding you is because of some
02:11:32.660 kind of prohibition of hiring white people at the end of the day no they will see you and they'll
02:11:38.260 be like ah this guy's white and they won't hire you now i don't think that's the case that is not
02:11:44.020 the case in the united states it's not anywhere close to becoming the case um hiring white males
02:11:50.900 becoming impossible is not a real thing in the united states certainly it might be in
02:11:56.740 south africa zimbabwe or something um but at the end of the day you're not fooling anybody i don't
02:12:04.500 think it's about what you write there it may be when they shuffle if everybody that were to fill
02:12:10.500 in the box under white non-hispanic or whatever it says at your employer if they shuffle all of
02:12:17.140 those out and then they everybody who puts something under other they don't read maybe
02:12:22.660 that gets you into that spot but i think it would if that were their policy it would still hit you
02:12:28.180 on your interview process and not really be worth the effort i think you should just find a job
02:12:34.420 one of the millions and millions and millions of jobs that are available to you that are out there
02:12:39.940 and make the best of it do you have any thoughts on on that idea of skirting it tyler yeah i'd say
02:12:48.260 if you're at the point where in your mad max timeline where it's become absolutely illegal to
02:12:55.220 work as a white person you have more important things to be doing than worrying about job
02:12:59.540 application if it's illegal to work it's probably legal to buy food so get gardening but brother
02:13:05.140 get gardening or start constructing the thunder dome
02:13:12.900 because that's going to be that's going to be the best entertainment in barter town
02:13:16.980 that's what you need to focus on um
02:13:25.620 so the next question is there afa literature
02:13:30.500 i'm sorry we just got a question added so it messed with my scrolling i apologize is there
02:13:34.740 afa literature focused on the creation of the universe and consciousness i've read a little
02:13:41.780 bit about the world being made from the bones of ymir um afa specific literature no super in-depth
02:13:50.740 stuff maybe not um and the prose edit and i'd have to i'd have to look and try to find it i
02:14:00.500 want to say it's in the gil fagening but i'm not certain i'm trying to think of the poem and
02:14:07.140 somebody on the side is going to going to throw it up and embarrass me and good please do because
02:14:11.540 it's good to get the information out there should i ask this on a spawn week because he would have
02:14:16.420 it there maybe tyler knows and can rescue me here um but where they talk about odin villians a
02:14:23.380 basically creating and breathing life into our most ancient ancestors that's the closest that
02:14:29.780 we have in our lore to discussion of that it's not super in depth and we don't have any afa specific
02:14:38.500 literature on that tyler do you happen to know what poem that's in off the top of my head no but
02:14:45.620 you could also include the uh creation of the class or caste system by heimdall into a creation
02:14:52.100 of our people so there's a lot of really good options and i don't think that there's a specific
02:14:58.660 one-size-fits-all condensed afa book that's going to give you what you want but i i think there's
02:15:06.580 there's definitely definitely a lot of places you can look i mean we can we can look at the great
02:15:10.740 gap we can look at the creation of the world with emir's bones we can look at heimdall's and the
02:15:14.900 creation of the of the caste or class system there's lots of places where we have a origin or
02:15:20.180 creation yeah and the high ball story is is the lay of rig or the rigs thula um
02:15:31.220 and you can find that there it has layers like certainly it has to do with casts it also has to
02:15:37.460 to do with progression and ennobling of people over time,
02:15:42.200 a progression of social development.
02:15:45.620 It's got a lot of interesting things and interesting concepts,
02:15:48.140 and I think that that's a really useful source.
02:15:50.900 I'm glad that Tyler brought that up.
02:15:54.700 I'm looking over on the side to see if somebody's going to bust out what poem
02:16:01.620 that is.
02:16:04.320 At least nobody else is jumping on it.
02:16:06.260 Although Human Impulation Nation says, Matt, you rock.
02:16:09.980 Hey, I appreciate that.
02:16:11.100 Thank you.
02:16:14.280 The next question.
02:16:17.460 So if the Vedic slash Hindu slash Zoroastrianism gods are in fact Aryan gods,
02:16:24.200 what are your thoughts on these Eastern people worshiping Aryan gods?
02:16:28.760 Do you think they're actually communicating with our gods?
02:16:31.900 So that's complicated.
02:16:41.720 I think that the Vedic gods, the most ancient of Hindu deities, are Aryan deities, and that's certainly a thing.
02:17:07.820 but there's the inclusion of quite a bit of Dravidian deities as well
02:17:12.760 the original Aryans that populated India and brought that faith there have been
02:17:22.520 extremely intermixed with other groups of people over those years specifically with the Dravidians
02:17:31.060 And by this current time, those clearly not white people worshiping and interacting with white gods, it's not really up to me to say, and I mean this, I'm absolutely focused on the right way to exist is worshiping the gods of your people and your ancestors.
02:17:55.280 That said, I can't, nor do I presume to speak for who the gods do and don't listen to.
02:18:05.420 That's not, I would never want to be blasphemous by projecting, you know, I'm not the arbiter of who can possibly reach out to the gods and how they possibly interact with that.
02:18:18.820 I think that in any case, that group of people being so intermixed with other different races of people
02:18:28.280 is a fundamental thing that separates them and distances them from our gods.
02:18:35.520 And how the gods choose to deal with that or not is entirely up to them.
02:18:41.760 That's not the appropriate practice for worshiping Alcetru.
02:18:48.360 in the form that we you know the way that we approach our gods so those people certainly
02:18:53.720 are not welcome to join the afa if they're not our folk how they determine their spiritual destiny
02:19:00.760 and whether or not whatever gods they reach out to reach back to them is between them and
02:19:05.320 and the gods i suppose um again i don't think that's the best practice on their part but i'm
02:19:12.200 I'm not going to presume that I have the ability to make that decision for our gods on how they view that or they don't.
02:19:26.360 It's less than ideal, and it's certainly less than the way that we practice our faith.
02:19:38.960 With that, I think we're at the end of our questions tonight.
02:19:41.940 Tyler, do you have anything that you want to, any last thoughts you want to leave people with or anything you would like to tell folks?
02:19:56.120 I think we just got another question, actually.
02:19:59.340 Yeah, I think we got two more.
02:20:00.780 That's okay.
02:20:01.380 um as far as anything i want to leave people with it's if something's not happening in your
02:20:09.540 area with the afa you are the first person that can change that we do the unity call on sundays
02:20:17.060 we are doing something once a month the ninth that doesn't require you to travel anywhere
02:20:21.860 but if you want to see change in your area if you want to see more activity absolutely
02:20:26.580 reach out to a folk builder and we will see what we can do to get things going in your area
02:20:31.620 ultimately it's it's not just the folk builders not just the go-thar they're going to get things
02:20:36.020 happening it's our members no matter what titles or lack of titles they have so please
02:20:43.620 do not hesitate to get involved in the real world
02:20:49.780 the real world is where asa true happens thinking about it debating about it pondering it
02:20:55.620 is not the same as practicing um so last couple of questions here
02:21:03.380 would the afa consider building hops to frig and freya before the 12 hops of the icr are finished
02:21:09.540 or are you guys dead set on finishing those 12 before anything else we are dead set on finishing
02:21:16.020 those 12 before anything else that said obviously and i'm not being silly in any way
02:21:25.620 And if there were some sort of divine interaction where the gods tell me to do it differently, then sure, we will change all of our plans at a moment's notice.
02:21:38.060 If the gods reach out and say, hey, change it up, barring that, we're going to do the 12 Iseer first the way we've been playing.
02:21:46.660 That's the commitment we've been on. It's been the path that has led us to success.
02:21:53.180 That's the commitment that we made and that we're trying to do.
02:21:56.380 But if the gods reach out and tell me to do something different, we'll certainly do something different.
02:22:03.620 How should we deal with the religions now that plan forced conversions in the future?
02:22:15.640 Tyler, do you have thoughts?
02:22:19.620 Forced conversion is a misnomer.
02:22:23.740 no one can force you to convert you just have to be aware of how much you're willing to sacrifice
02:22:30.140 to stay true to your beliefs and your ancestral path i don't think it's a concern because i think
02:22:38.060 as things get more difficult and other religions get more intent on forceful methods our people
02:22:46.700 will come together more and more and if history has shown us anything as soon as people try and
02:22:53.180 put us up against a wall. We always snap right back to being a unified front. I would say
02:22:59.360 that no one can force you and you can take the route of your most honorable ancestors
02:23:07.060 and stick to it to the very end. You know, the only, again, I think this question is
02:23:16.380 It's focusing, and I appreciate the question.
02:23:20.680 I do, I'm not being insulted, but I think it's focusing on the wrong things.
02:23:25.660 I don't think there's anything you can do right now to affect religions that you think one day might try to force you to convert by, you know, violent means.
02:23:39.260 I don't see any religion in the world that is trying to violently force you to become something else other than Islam.
02:23:51.000 I don't think the sects of Islam that we see in the West, certainly in the United States, are in any position to force you to give up your faith and to join theirs in any conceivable, reasonable future.
02:24:05.240 like there's a lot better things to be focusing on i don't think there's anything that you can
02:24:10.640 do now that will fix that scenario right now we have laws and social buttressing in our country
02:24:19.880 to prevent forced conversions as best as we can um outside of that i don't know any steps that
02:24:28.340 you can take right now that will really make any difference or help you with that but you
02:24:32.840 could spend time instead of focusing on that focusing on building the things that you love
02:24:37.520 and the things that you building this faith and full-throatedly and practicing this faith
02:24:44.360 as much as possible instead of postulating 100 years down the road a situation that might occur
02:24:53.800 or might not tomorrow you can redouble your house of truth practice and i think that's a more
02:25:01.080 important place to put that emphasis um and so get the sheila mcnellan wants me to emphasize
02:25:11.800 to you guys how important it is if you are an afa member to be active on me
02:25:19.160 some people don't like me some people would rather use any other
02:25:23.160 social media that they're much more comfortable with
02:25:25.400 that's really unfortunate if that's more important than participating being part of your church
02:25:34.700 if you're going to spend time using social media the afa conducts our internal afa membership stuff
02:25:43.220 on me we as far as social media goes is it the best does it reach the most people no but we've
02:25:50.380 been kicked off of Facebook and Instagram because of religious persecution, because of who we are
02:25:56.540 and what we believe. So MeWe is the platform that's open to us, and we use it to the best
02:26:01.900 of our ability. We have very active groups for a number of interests. We have regional groups
02:26:06.920 around each of the Hoff districts. MeWe is where the AFA is interacting with each of our members
02:26:13.420 on a daily basis, absolutely participate in the real world, do that.
02:26:19.780 But if you're spending time on social media and you're in the AFA,
02:26:22.980 you should be on MeWe.
02:26:24.020 That's the way to get the most interaction and the most community
02:26:28.560 out of your AFA membership.
02:26:30.120 We would love to have you be part of that.
02:26:32.680 So please consider doing that.
02:26:34.600 Even if it's not your favorite social media platform, you can get used to it.
02:26:38.640 If I can get used to it, so can you.
02:26:40.180 I appreciate you guys so much
02:26:43.440 thank you everybody with your questions
02:26:45.280 tonight I apologize
02:26:47.540 for the
02:26:49.080 technical difficulties
02:26:51.680 that took the first 20 minutes
02:26:53.700 of our program
02:26:54.560 thank you for those that stuck it out
02:26:57.440 we appreciate you and thank you
02:26:59.840 Nick and Lydia behind the scenes
02:27:01.560 I know you guys were scrambling
02:27:03.720 there to get us back up and I appreciate
02:27:05.580 that we found a solution
02:27:07.520 for this evening
02:27:08.340 Tyler it looks like you were going to say something yeah I didn't want to cut you off
02:27:13.740 but it sounded like we're going to sign off I think with all the confusion of the technical
02:27:18.240 difficulties we kind of neglected to talk about this year's first harvest feast in its entirety
02:27:22.000 I figured we might want to rectify that before we sign off well tell us more about phrase harvest
02:27:26.880 feast by all means well I wanted to tell you guys about the feast and I think it starts with weather
02:27:32.900 the weather was highly thematic this year so our first day was dedicated to
02:27:38.900 New York and it was just raining cats and dogs we met at my my meadery it's
02:27:45.920 unfinished it's still under construction and so the guys there hastily erected
02:27:51.080 tarps to keep us out from under the rain and I mean this this rain was
02:27:55.160 something you haven't been in a true Eastern Montana thunderstorm then you
02:27:59.120 don't know what I'm talking about unless you're down in the south you know
02:28:02.060 louisiana hurricane season's no joke but with that we we all came together and we we got a place
02:28:10.300 built up and we we came under this giant tarp so we used this big like 50 foot trucker tarp and so
02:28:16.140 it had this this boat-like shape it felt like we were inside a boat looking up at the bottom of the
02:28:21.420 hole as if we had been burdened and it felt very appropriate since we were gathering to celebrate
02:28:26.780 Tynjord to be almost in Jotun. And with that, the themes of the weather didn't stop. So
02:28:33.720 that day we did bloat Tynjord and we did it in the water. And a lot of people don't do that. A
02:28:40.380 lot of people don't go out and wade waist deep into the cold and get themselves a little muddy
02:28:46.600 and have bloat Tynjord. And the water was all churned up from the bad weather. So it was
02:28:52.960 Certainly an interesting event for a lot of people that hadn't been able to participate in something like that before.
02:29:00.820 The year prior, we had snow on the ground when we went into the water.
02:29:03.860 This year, we had rain coming down, and it was ice cold.
02:29:06.100 But it's all part of that sacrifice, that ritual, that gift cycle.
02:29:11.040 What you're willing to put in shows a lot.
02:29:14.400 So I think it was a very, very good bloat.
02:29:19.700 I think it could have gone smoother just because of the weather.
02:29:22.520 but we certainly did our best i had a drum that got wet in the rains we we lost some of the
02:29:28.680 elements we had planned to do but it was a really a really good day for improvising figure i'd get
02:29:34.840 your thoughts on that before moved on to the next day you know i heard a little bit about that
02:29:43.960 afterwards and sometimes especially there's there's something special to be said for
02:29:57.240 doing ritual from time to time out in the elements in
02:30:05.080 those kind of more extreme situations um i mentioned on this broadcast before a lot that we've done
02:30:13.960 when i was in alaska growing up say growing up when i was doing alsatru in you know the early
02:30:25.560 you know
02:30:28.520 i left in 2014 so anytime before that we would do especially the solstices and the equinoxes we would
02:30:37.160 do those at the moment of solstice or the moment of equinox and depending on when that was that
02:30:44.840 was in blizzard conditions that's been in just driving rain it's been you know been out there
02:30:53.800 doing it at negative 30 or below um in a lot of uh inhospitable spots and something about bonding
02:31:01.960 together when you're doing
02:31:03.680 when you're doing those
02:31:05.940 kind of things, those elements
02:31:08.020 the water, the rain, the wind
02:31:10.220 they can add so much
02:31:11.900 to the ritual, so I think that's pretty cool
02:31:13.900 I'm envious
02:31:15.280 I feel bad that I missed it and wasn't able
02:31:17.880 to participate with you guys
02:31:19.500 I gotta say
02:31:21.980 Steve put a pretty good show
02:31:24.000 on, that man was the only one
02:31:25.880 to dump himself all the way into the water
02:31:27.680 he just dove right in
02:31:28.780 he's pretty spry for his age
02:31:31.380 um sorry i didn't mean to cut you off no you didn't at all
02:31:38.460 so we we we had bloat in the water and after that we came back and we had this nice warm meal
02:31:49.660 waiting for us in future years with those shower houses we'll have nice warm showers to follow that
02:31:55.140 float so that level of building as we go is certainly there but it was quite something to
02:32:01.620 to watch people's spirits lift from this unforeseen weather this this just absolute downpour where
02:32:08.180 people are cut off guard to seeing a nice large meal waiting for them they just changed completely
02:32:14.020 and on that meal i wanted to mention that all the fish that was there we had 50 pounds of salmon
02:32:19.700 at that meal and all of it was caught by afa members um primarily from a guy out in washington
02:32:29.180 who did a great job so as the feast grows each year more and more of the food on the table will
02:32:34.900 be made raised harvested hunted fished farmed whatever the case may be for the individual item
02:32:40.720 by afa members so next year we're looking at having quail and pig raised by afa members we
02:32:48.160 hopefully given the grasshoppers calming down this next year we'll be able to make our own
02:32:54.000 pasta i mean these things just take time but we're certainly seeing the resilience of our people and
02:33:00.520 the independent nature coming back and first harvest feast is a really good way of seeing that
02:33:06.900 that's awesome that sounds amazing um i miss wild wild caught salmon that's one thing that
02:33:17.560 can't get used to growing up in alaska we you know i was able to fish in some of the best fisheries
02:33:23.240 in the world for salmon and getting the stuff you get at the store that's farmed that's
02:33:30.360 maybe got a tinge of pink in it and it's really flavorless it's hard to come by so
02:33:37.320 that's that's awesome that sounds great
02:33:40.440 i really did a 180 on people's uh people's temperature both emotional temperature and
02:33:49.640 uh physical temperature having that nice hot meal my wife did all the cooking it was really
02:33:54.200 impressive she fed 41 people out of a 300 square foot cabin for the whole weekend she's a she's a
02:34:01.080 trooper so a little nod to her uh the next thing is pretty cool though oh sorry no tell me uh we
02:34:08.360 we started off with uh greeting the day if you haven't seen steve and sheila do a greeting of
02:34:13.960 the day it's it's really something you guys should should come out to word on the street
02:34:18.520 is they're going to be out there next year so maybe think about budgeting for those tickets
02:34:23.640 i know we're in the middle of nowhere but it's absolutely worth it for those of you that didn't
02:34:27.480 come you missed out on watching steve hold a puppy for the first time so that's on you
02:34:31.320 yeah we should all do our best to make it next year if we can it sounds amazing it really really
02:34:42.520 does sound awesome i know it's been a long time since i've been in montana nick do you have that
02:34:48.600 picture of uh steve holding the puppy i think it's probably my best advertisement for next year
02:34:54.200 while he finds that i figured i'd tell you about the viking games we did
02:35:04.120 please so our there it is look at that you missed that you weren't there
02:35:09.920 but uh with that uh the viking games were fantastic we had these
02:35:17.120 large uh old bridge beams and we spray painted little caricatures of monks so we had our big
02:35:24.300 biking games we had the gentleman compete there's nine total points three from the hand axes where
02:35:31.100 you chop down these big uh wooden wooden monks and you went on and you threw hand axes they
02:35:38.760 that was worth three points and then you had three points worth of shooting a bow
02:35:43.040 James Greeny out of
02:35:45.180 Helena Kindred
02:35:46.920 he took the prize home and the prize
02:35:49.460 was pretty neat. We had an AFA
02:35:51.520 Smith make a sax knife
02:35:53.200 and the wood of the handle
02:35:55.360 was from Thor's Hoff
02:35:56.400 so it was a pretty competitive
02:35:59.100 event
02:36:01.160 just because we had an AFA
02:36:03.360 made sax knife with wood
02:36:05.300 from one of our hops
02:36:06.140 it was just something to see
02:36:09.400 absolutely
02:36:14.160 so we got a couple
02:36:20.080 two more questions that have popped up
02:36:22.180 thoughts on the many
02:36:23.800 offshoots such as
02:36:25.880 Vanna True, Thursa True
02:36:27.780 and Roka True
02:36:28.740 that's all nonsense
02:36:32.400 that's
02:36:33.800 mentally damaged individuals
02:36:37.840 that are
02:36:39.120 terrified of being part of a successful group of people
02:36:42.820 doing something meaningful.
02:36:48.080 Thursatru and Rokatru is not legitimate.
02:36:51.580 It's degenerate people trying to,
02:36:55.100 it's the Oustatru version of Satanism,
02:36:58.140 where almost 99.9% of Satanists don't worship the devil.
02:37:04.020 They just want to be edgy and revolt against Christian values and be scary.
02:37:12.540 That's what that is.
02:37:13.980 It's nonsense.
02:37:15.400 And the Vanatru people, it's people that don't.
02:37:20.520 Everyone wants to find and put a new label on what they do so that they don't have to be part of something or part of a group.
02:37:27.880 We have people that are terrified of having commitment to being part of something.
02:37:34.020 everybody wants to be their own little snowflake their own little unique butterfly doing their own
02:37:41.540 thing and uh that speaks to the soul sickness of our folk but all of those things are silly and
02:37:47.620 offensive uh tyler what is your taste in music honestly it really i got a wide wide net there
02:37:58.100 i i like old school country it's uh definitely not one of those stadium country fans
02:38:05.700 i think it lost a lot of its soul when it became corporatized
02:38:09.620 um i'm actually a big jimmy buffett fan i know that's going to raise some eyebrows but
02:38:14.500 if you uh you get past the corporate fan base and you look at the actual soul of some of those songs
02:38:22.100 the actual lyrics i think you'll find that there's a lot of our values in some of his earlier work
02:38:26.500 you're having a hard time he has a lot of good easy listening part of it is when i was growing
02:38:34.620 up it was something that was always on the job site so my my father worked instruction and when
02:38:39.420 i was out there on the job site he could be listening to jimmy buff as he did framing or
02:38:45.180 did drywall or whatever else he didn't want to subcontract out he's a general contractor so i
02:38:49.440 there's a there's a a connection there and i also worked some some pretty crummy jobs and i would uh
02:38:58.960 listen to just music to make you feel good and it really got me through it so a bit of a jimmy buffett
02:39:05.200 fan um byron de la vandal does really good music if you haven't heard of his he does uh i would
02:39:13.120 say white positive folk music there's a there's a lot of good music out there so i wouldn't really
02:39:18.640 pin myself to one one genre fair enough um
02:39:29.360 would it be a good or disrespectful to make and use a horse-shaped bread pan for fray fax
02:39:36.080 i think that would be fine i think honestly that would probably be better than some of the attempts
02:39:41.280 i've seen it's always i don't know i've seen some really beautiful ones they did a really really
02:39:48.160 great one spawns are always awesome when he does the bread horse um balder soft did a really
02:39:54.800 beautiful one this year most of the time it's like an ugly sweater contest and it's not intended to
02:40:03.760 be that way there's no disrespect but dough does different stuff when you cook it and it doesn't
02:40:09.280 always come out as you intend i think a bread pan would be fine the important point is that you're
02:40:13.840 you're doing the important point is until you perfect the perfect bread horse recipe you're
02:40:20.800 never gonna need any dough and even give it a shot anything is better than that and i think a
02:40:27.520 bread pan shaped like a horse would be awesome i think it'd be fantastic i think it would be
02:40:33.640 respectful and i think it would be appreciated and uh appreciated by the gods which i think is
02:40:39.500 the most important thing.
02:40:42.600 And that's our last
02:40:43.660 question of tonight. Tyler, thank you
02:40:45.540 so much for joining us. Thank you
02:40:47.520 for bearing with the technical
02:40:49.480 difficulties, and thank you for
02:40:51.380 all the work you do up there in Montana,
02:40:54.320 including
02:40:54.980 hosting what sounds like an
02:40:57.420 amazing Freres Harvest Feast.
02:41:01.560 Thanks for having me on. Yeah,
02:41:03.440 let's get you on again sometime.
02:41:05.300 Sounds like bland. All right.
02:41:08.000 Well, you guys have a good night.
02:41:09.500 Hail the gods, hail the folk, hail the AFA, and remember, the victim never sleeps.
02:41:39.500 Thank you.
02:42:09.500 Thank you.
02:42:39.500 Thank you.
02:43:09.500 Thank you.
02:43:39.500 Thank you.
02:44:09.500 Thank you.