00:00:30.860Welcome anybody who is joining us just now.
00:00:38.680Not sure if you guys heard anything before, so I'm going to go ahead and start as if this had never been a thing.
00:00:46.520So it turns out. Sorry, I was looking at something on the back end because we switched videos. I can't see that anymore. So we'll start completely fresh.
00:00:59.600so i mentioned a new number of times last month invited you guys to an event in montana called
00:01:06.160frayer's harvest feast turned out to be a really great event heard wonderful things as far as
00:01:13.120feedback goes from it that said decided we would bring folk builder tyler heineland on for the
00:01:20.480first time he was the host of the event as i mentioned it was hosted on his homestead and i
00:01:27.040figured he could tell us a little bit about the event and entice entice some folks to come out
00:01:33.840next year if you didn't this year and just kind of give us a glimpse of stuff in his area but first
00:01:41.360tyler everybody i have come on here for the first time i'd like to have them introduce themselves
00:01:46.720tell folks a little bit about who you are how you found alsatru and how you came to be part of the
00:01:53.520astro-folk assembly yeah absolutely so i'm a folk builder tyler hamlin i'm out of eastern montana
00:02:03.680and i came to the afa through one of our members we bumped into each other in a couple of circles
00:02:11.280we ran into just friend groups and it was really a really good good switch i was looking for
00:02:18.080community and then i ended up finding spirituality in addition so that was a nice a nice thing i
00:02:23.680wasn't expecting which i think is true for a lot of our guys that that come on uh and join the
00:02:29.120the afa looking for community they end up finding a little bit more
00:02:35.280so with that um how i came to as true in general i came from a lds background and
00:02:42.720you know my mother's side was all lds my father's side was whatever church was popular at the time so
00:02:49.680i had a very wide selection of religion to draw from in terms of upbringing so i got to see a
00:02:57.020little bit of everything but what i noticed is that any bit of christianity that i really connected
00:03:02.940to was inherently polytheistic and so the more i dug into it the more i saw that you know these
00:03:10.960borrowed roots that come from our our ancestral faith were more akin to what i was looking for
00:03:15.280and so i started looking to ask true and that's that's kind of my journey there
00:09:55.960We're gonna be building a proper shower house.
00:09:58.960So individual shower stalls and bathroom stalls.
00:10:01.020going to take some time it's going to take some material gathering but we are working on that so
00:10:05.180as this event continues each year we improve and we get to share that growth with the wider afa
00:10:11.980when they come out well i think that's you know that's fantastic it's a it's a solid model and
00:10:20.860that's a really good turnout for as far off the beaten path as uh as the site is um what is closest
00:10:30.220airport if people are planning on attending in the future yeah absolutely so fortunately the
00:10:35.820closest airport is billings international there are some local airports you could charter flight
00:10:41.900to but the reality is it'd be more cost than it's worth so it's about a two-hour drive from billings
00:10:48.060we are actually 14 miles on dirt road until you even hit the highway and then we're outside of
00:10:52.460a little town called winnett so when it has half the county there so it's boasting 250 people
00:11:00.460it's rural as all rural can be i got about three neighbors and that's if you don't include the elk
00:11:07.580herd because they they outnumber us about 20 to one that's kind of cool i think there's probably
00:11:14.460a lot of people listening that they have never experienced that kind of i don't know that kind
00:11:21.580of middle of nowhere existence that's uh that's gotta be pretty special i really want to go check
00:11:28.620it out and see your spot um like i said the pictures looked amazing and i've heard nothing
00:11:33.260but great things from people who went out there certainly sheila mcnalen was very excited about
00:11:38.780it her and i talked when she got back a little bit she had a great time um let's go see if we've
00:11:48.540got some questions lined up um we got one our first one and our uh our standard one here good
00:11:56.220evening. How are the host nights going? Also, what is your favorite Robert Heinlein novel?
00:12:04.620Only one that I have read, Starship Troopers, but I liked it.
00:12:11.420How's my evening going? It's a complicated question. A little bit grumpy about our technical
00:12:18.700situation but i will tell you this this uh samuel smith's organic chocolate stout is uh making it
00:12:26.220a little bit better so i appreciate that also i'm excited to be on here talking with you guys and
00:12:32.140be over that particular hurdle um sorry about that it's okay technical problems are uh our
00:12:42.300theme this evening. It's all good. So, Tyler, how are you doing, and what is your favorite
00:12:54.060Robert Heinlein novel? So, I'm doing really, really good. We're past the feast, so I don't
00:13:02.660have any stress on my plate, and I've got a lot of time to prepare for the next one, so I'm over
00:13:07.420the moon i got everything lined up for the year as far as my favorite Robert Heinlein novel goes
00:13:13.580to be honest nothing nothing beats starship troopers it's just there's something about it
00:13:21.100there's something about the every everyday man looking just
00:13:27.260unbelievable odds unwinnable odds in the face and saying you know what
00:13:30.780i don't care i'm gonna fight as hard as i can anyway and there's just there's an appeal to that
00:13:37.420All right. Next up, got a question from The Wolf Throne. Without spoiling too much of the future episode, can you touch briefly on Winter Nights and what it does or doesn't have in common with Halloween?
00:13:58.060um sure and i don't think it's gonna gonna mess with future episode um because two weeks from now
00:14:07.680i very specifically want the ericsons to talk about the afa's winter night event that has been
00:14:14.560ongoing now for about 12 years and they'll go into detail on on the holiday itself but uh as a little
00:14:22.640i don't know way of thinking about it you ask what it has in common what it's different than
00:14:29.760halloween yeah it's absolutely halloween it's the you know norse germanic version of the same
00:14:42.240holiday that halloween evolved from from the celts it's the same exact principle the idea is
00:14:50.040i mean obviously it's you know not the quite in its religious practice it's not just the
00:14:59.740silliness that you see in in you know modern halloween pumpkins and skeletons and stuff
00:15:06.720although that's fine and cool and it's a lot of fun and it's a really good way to get the kids
00:15:10.560involved but halloween the aspect that is similar that goes to the way back on halloween
00:15:17.920It's a spooky time of year. It's a time of year where our folk have always believed the veil between the worlds starts to be the very thinnest.
00:15:30.840And during that period, in the stillness and the quiet of late fall into winter, that barrier that separates the living from the dead and our world from their world is very, very thin.
00:15:48.380and you have an increased opportunity to send messages to our loved ones beyond the veil
00:15:58.280and to listen, if you listen hard enough, and receive messages back.
00:16:04.400And that's very much the principle behind Winter Nights.
00:16:08.820At Winter Nights, the AFA has always done a de-sear bloat,
00:16:11.920And the DeSeer are the mothers of our line that look on and love and take care of us from beyond the veil.
00:16:25.140um our one level of ascension for our female ancestors is that role of these here to look
00:16:36.440over members of of their family in the future and to to protect them to love them and to guide them
00:16:42.360and we see that all throughout uh northern folklore in different forms but we celebrate them
00:16:50.900in, uh, at winter nights. And that's always been kind of an AFA tradition. Um, but yeah,
00:16:58.580it's a time of celebrating our ancestors of reaching out to them, of honoring the turning
00:17:06.940of the seasons and focusing our thoughts less on the, you know, voracious activity of summer
00:17:15.560and more introspective towards connecting with our family,
00:23:18.760He was one of the generation of people that started Ausitru, rejected our gods, and embraced the Jewish God and left that very special bond that his people, since the dawn of time up until him, worshipped and celebrated.
00:23:43.900that bond was the bedrock of what made the sacrality of him and his people's lives
00:23:54.460and he was that first generation of people that broke from that and that severed that bond
00:23:59.580so no i don't in any way want to uh celebrate leaf erickson um i think that is a is a terrible
00:24:07.660offense. But I know a lot of people may not be aware of that, and I understand that people get
00:24:14.940excited about Viking stuff, but that's our reasoning for that.
00:24:27.420So next question from the Wolf Throne. One of the core beliefs of Ausatru is the world is good,
00:24:33.980prosperity is good life is good and we should live it with joy and enthusiasm
00:24:39.980how do we reconcile that with the evil and suffering of the world
00:24:49.260so tyler i'm gonna let you take a swing at that first well i appreciate that because i've been
00:24:54.940i saw it in the chat and i was rearing ready to go so first and foremost this this is a symptom
00:25:03.260a view this view is a symptom of people that aren't out in the real world this is a symptom
00:25:08.540of people who don't take the time to appreciate the world and all its beauty i have an advantage
00:25:16.240i'm in the middle of nowhere i get up in the morning and greet the day with my wife
00:25:20.540which if if you're not doing that and you're a married couple you really you really should get
00:25:25.320on it because it does does really bring you closer together but i get up and i go out and i look
00:25:30.220around and all i see is canyon wall nice beautiful trees usually some deer or turkeys running around
00:25:37.100through my through my backyard i got the sun coming down on me i take the time to acknowledge
00:25:42.700the day i take the time to appreciate the world you ever go on a hike and you get that sense of
00:25:48.300peace it's friendly that calmness we just feel better after getting away from all the hustle and
00:25:54.300bustle the cars the smog and cities the world's a beautiful place the belief that it's not
00:26:00.220comes from from looking at the woes of the world and the worlds of the world are made primarily
00:26:05.640in urban sprawls where people do not appreciate the world they don't take our faith seriously
00:26:13.160or they don't have our faith they would like to get on and go about their day in a in a modern
00:26:20.560manner you know we talked about homesteading and how a lot of people talk about doing it but
00:26:26.640never take the steps well i took the steps and i gotta tell you i'd still have this view if i
00:26:31.120even if i wasn't almost the simple fact is the place if you take time and appreciate it but if
00:26:37.380all you want to do is sit and look at the smog the pollution the wars the famines all that then
00:26:42.980you're missing the greatest beauty of all and that's the beauty of struggle our stories that
00:26:49.120we share for generations aren't about someone waking up and toiling for a day and going to sleep
00:26:55.020and you know he had a nice meal it's about people overcoming adversity it's about people
00:26:59.840overcoming strife that's the beauty of this world is that we have that that peaceful element we have
00:27:07.040all of the wonderful things that we can experience on the day-to-day but when those
00:27:11.940struggles come up us overcoming them having that indomitable spirit that is where even more beauty
00:27:17.840gets amplified what joy in in overcoming obstacles would there be if the obstacles were easy
00:27:26.400so i i reject the notion that this world is an ugly place it's a wonderful place it's beautiful
00:27:33.280it does require a certain amount of resolve and resilience a little bit of willpower
00:27:38.960to overcome the struggles but the fact is even if you didn't have that which all of you do
00:27:45.280You can still enjoy the beauty of the good days.
00:27:52.820You know, it goes back to a conversation that we had.
00:27:57.180I guess he put it most succinctly when we were having a conversation with folk builder Eric Lognet in Sweden.
00:31:08.620And I think that it is easier to see that when you're surrounded by beauty, if you live out in the country.
00:31:14.820But I think that you can find plenty of that in an urban setting.
00:31:19.740It has to do with your orientation and not necessarily the things around you.
00:31:25.140Obviously, there's an asterisk by that if you are in the middle of some kind of chaos, of course.
00:31:30.400But there's so many amazing things out there.
00:31:34.560And this world has so much to offer us.
00:31:37.500And as much as we have to sit around and be grumpy about, I think the vast majority of us are infinitely comfortable with Internet service and access to streaming stuff on TV and any kind of food we want to eat.
00:31:52.120We really do have a lot of advantages our ancestors didn't have.
00:31:57.620Let's use those to, I don't know, make our lives a happier place.
00:32:03.280And I think we do that when we focus on what we have the ability to affect.
00:32:07.500And Tyler's doing that as we speak with gathering together our folk in his area that want to move up there and building the future that he wants and making that happen.
00:32:20.660He's spending hours putting in the work to build the world that he wants rather than to gnash his teeth that the world the way it is.
00:32:29.280And that's exactly what we're trying to do at Sigurheim.
00:32:31.520I'm looking so forward to moving out there and to as many of you as I can get to move out there, starting that village there.
00:32:37.500true AFA community. If you want things, there's plenty to go out to do, but as long as we see
00:32:46.040ourselves as victims, it's very easy to fall into that doom porn mentality. And I think so many of
00:32:56.200us have been focused on that for so long that we don't realize how often that's what we spend our
00:33:04.040time-consuming if I could piggyback so I saw in the chat mentions of the term
00:33:13.420black pill and I think we're all familiar with it but the idea of the
00:33:16.940black goes important to me I cannot be blackpilled and this is why I share this
00:33:22.640with a lot of the younger guys that look at their job prospects or their dating
00:33:26.120prospects it's just the way the world is and they get really really nervous I'm
00:33:31.340a young guy so i get it you know i grew up in the same world they did i know lots of changed i've
00:33:36.140seen those changes but i can't get blackpilled because i simply understand that if we were to
00:33:43.420lose things would continue to decay the world would become a darker place if we aren't able
00:33:50.540to manifest what we want out of this world eventually it would get so bad that natural
00:33:55.820truth would reinstate itself our views would reinstate itself our religion would reinstate
00:34:01.780itself and eventually through sheer force of things getting bad enough natural law takes over
00:34:07.820and we resume and we get that place we always wanted but that's not going to happen because we
00:34:12.340are people that build we are people that strive for excellence we build better and and bigger
00:34:19.480and so because of that our victory is inevitable we will see the world we want to see
00:34:25.280we will have healthy happy families as long as we believe it so the young guys out there
00:34:30.640that are worried about dating the young guys that are worried about job prospects
00:34:35.200don't worry just do we spend so much time talking about what we should do instead of doing it
00:34:42.320you know i've mentioned that on this broadcast more times than i can count the biggest step
00:34:48.320in anything is the distance from the couch to the door as long as we're in the research and
00:34:56.880development and planning phase all of that is completely and totally worth it worthless
00:35:04.000if we never make it to the implementation stage
00:35:07.600you can talk yourself out of anything you want to do if you give yourself enough time
00:35:12.480um that's one of the biggest things that is exemplified in our lore and is a theme of how
00:35:23.780to practice house the truth the right way is we battle entropy the tendency to decay the tendency
00:35:32.240to move towards towards chaos and disillusion instead of towards bigger and better things
00:35:40.780it is a constant struggle to move forward, to aim upwards and to do things. If we focus that way,
00:35:49.080we can absolutely do it. But we've got to give it fuel. It's not, you know, success isn't going to
00:35:53.540just drag us along with it. We have to go out there every day and make good things happen.
00:36:01.360That's fundamental to our existence. And when we do, there's nothing we can't accomplish.
00:36:07.260But when we sit around and one of the, you know, talk about soul sickness, but one of the biggest symptoms of that soul sickness amongst our folk, and I've seen this a lot, especially with young guys, is they get so convinced that they're destined to lose and that they can't ever win at anything that they stop trying.
00:36:32.200that they stop making any effort to do things and they move into escapism now sometimes escapism is
00:36:42.300is you know video games and living a virtual existence and a number of other destructive
00:36:51.000habits or drugs or anything else but a lot of times a form of escapism is getting together
00:36:57.120with your buddies and talking about all of the terrible political things going on and how
00:37:02.680everything's corrupt and everything's bad and the whole world's terrible and we're all going to die
00:37:07.660and when you get in that spiral with you and your buddies it it perpetuates itself and it kills so
00:37:16.820much time that you could spend going out and doing great things we get guys that feel like they can
00:37:23.520never be successful um in a relationship we get a lot this is something that's that baffles me
00:37:30.420and maybe this shows my age or whatever we got this whole class of young good-looking no homo
00:37:37.800guys that uh are out there and doing this whole incel men go their own way like don't even try
00:37:50.520because they want to complain about how terrible everything is
00:41:23.020I don't think that's a terrible thing.
00:41:25.640It is a challenge that people end up having is so often, as I mentioned earlier in the program on the Leif Erikson question, so much of our imagery and our lore comes from the Viking Age.
00:41:38.380It can be a challenge to scale those things up towards modern things that have no equivalent in that time, like a lot of the technological innovations, and try to figure out where different things fall on that new playing field that wasn't even conceived of by our ancestors at the time.
00:42:05.740No, I don't think that, you know, I think that the god of, the demigod perhaps of smithing is a reasonable place to go for craftsmanship generally and for building stuff, for fashioning tools, for fashioning weapons, for fashioning things.
00:56:02.360but i think that the more you compare and contrast them the more you pick out things that are the
00:56:10.880same across the board and areas where there may be a slight difference so i would encourage
00:56:16.600multiple but hollanders probably might go to what about you tally so i i like anderson's and
00:56:25.060i do jackson cropper as well but in general one of the things that we do on the unity call is every
00:56:31.260few weeks we talk about the we share a passage of the hobmo and then we compare our different
00:56:38.140editions and we talk about it and everyone brings a stanza they really felt was relevant to them
00:56:44.300and we talk about it and the advantage of doing it the way we do it is that we get to hear
00:56:48.580different versions of it and we get to pick up things that we might not have seen
00:56:52.520so i think matt is 100 correct you should not resign you know constrain yourself to a single
00:56:59.820translation i suppose people don't really know what the unity calls are
00:57:12.480no that's the word okay please explain to folks about the this uh unity call
00:57:17.980so one of the one of the things we have being so spread out throughout the united states not
00:57:24.820just the united states but the world is we don't always have a lot of members around us
00:57:28.880And so we have a lot of isolated folk that want to be part of things, want to come out to events, but it's just not feasible for them, especially our folks in Canada where the travel and laws are a little more restrictive and people that are in Alaska where they're just geographically isolated.
00:57:44.180So we started doing this Teams call every Sunday night at 6 p.m. Pacific Standard Time.
00:57:49.400It's available for all AFA members where we get together and we talk, we share where we're at, we do little projects, and we have discussions on things.
00:58:01.620And it's a way of getting together and bridging geographic gaps.
00:58:05.800So we call it the Unity call because we're uniting people no matter where they are.
00:58:09.660That's, again, Sunday, 6 p.m. Pacific Standard Time.
01:00:06.300um do you have any special thoughts on dreams tyler i think they're a really good way to confirm
01:00:14.440positions you've come to through meditation pondering thinking talking to your
01:00:21.500your people close to you i think oftentimes we do get confirmation through dreams i think we can
01:00:27.860get advice through dreams but i wouldn't go out and do whatever every dream says there's a
01:00:33.940difference between dreams that matter and the dreams you have you have a dream
01:00:37.180about a French fry it's probably not going to be something you want to base
01:00:40.720your life on but you have some profound spiritual dream where you wake up in the
01:00:44.400middle of night and you just can't get out of your head you might want to think
01:00:47.320on that for a while so everything with a grain of salt when it comes to dreams
01:00:52.560think on it longer than you would regular advice don't leap to decisions
01:00:57.700based on dreams use dreams if they matter to help you make informed
01:01:02.420decisions that would be my advice about dreams that's the thing not all dreams are created equal
01:01:09.140there's absolutely dream things that happen because you were watching something on tv that
01:01:14.740night you fell asleep to it and it put itself there there's you know a lot of random things
01:01:23.100that can happen but then you know those of us that have been open to that for a long time
01:01:28.600And there are some dreams that you just can't get out of your mind that stick with you crystal clear years later because they did speak of a profound truth.
01:01:38.880They might have been a message in some way.
01:01:41.860Sometimes that message comes from you internally.
01:01:44.380Sometimes that message comes from a God or an ancestor.
01:01:47.580But we should never ignore our dreams or discount them or throw them out.
01:01:53.940So figuring out how to sort through what matters and what doesn't, and then when it matters, exactly what message it's trying to convey to you, that can take a lifetime in and of itself.
01:02:10.500So, yeah, it's a complex, it's a very complex matrix on how, how much and what to factor in of your dreams and your decision making factors.
01:02:21.380but i think that tyler's point you made about it being a good thing to confirm or give you cause
01:02:27.860for pause and second thought on something is a very reasonable way to utilize your dreams
01:02:36.260um the next question fought on kanye west and his increasingly based opinions right-wing leanings
01:02:44.100and the fact that he wore a white lives matter shirt which stirred up outrage by the way
01:02:49.460uh tyler you got any any thoughts on based yay i don't have a whole lot of thoughts on it i i
01:02:58.620tend to try to focus on things that matter uh e-celebrities and their peculiarities their
01:03:05.960them being based or cringed really doesn't factor into my everyday i would say his shirt
01:03:12.300white lives matter being controversial is uh is irrelevant to you what you guys need to be pursuing
01:04:19.080But the more life you live and the older you get and the more you watch the damage that's being done to every facet of life by the current woke current of things, that wave has made a lot of very middle of the road people by today's standards seem based and having right wing leanings.
01:04:43.800I don't think that's the case. I think what is interesting about Kanye's situation, and it comes on the heels of a number of other, I'd say blacks and a lot of different highly visible fields, but specifically rappers have been relatively vocal about it.
01:05:03.060just some common sense they're starting to starting to realize ways that things are
01:05:12.000rigged in a really bad way with a lot of these things done by a group of people that historically
01:05:20.100have taken their support for granted and have championed them they you know
01:05:26.300a lot of people in celebrity doesn't always remove you and your vision from all of the
01:05:35.120things going on it has a way of insulating certainly there's a lot of people in all walks
01:05:40.240of life that are kind of waking up and saying hey things things aren't like we're being told
01:05:45.640and uh yeah we should have something that's remotely traditional to something our parents
01:05:52.040would have found acceptable or better yet something our grandparents might have found
01:05:56.840acceptable i think this is you know an extension of some of that um i think very often we need to
01:06:04.200stop and reconsider that maybe quote unquote based opinions and quote unquote right-wing
01:06:09.880right-wing leanings are just common sense and that a
01:06:15.240a left-leaning moderate of the 1990s is an extreme right-wing fanatic of today without
01:06:25.640changing any of their views but society has radically changed in a pretty you know a pretty
01:06:32.460bad way in a pretty short time certainly in the west so i think that's you know that's my thoughts
01:06:38.580on Kanye's situation, and also I do think it certainly gives him a certain amount of revitalized
01:06:46.560media attention for a few minutes. Honestly, my favorite period in Norse history is the Bronze
01:06:55.360Age. I truly wish we knew more about it. Do you think that etymology is the best route to help
01:09:08.140the specifics of how bronze age people worshipped
01:09:15.340that may be your best bet archaeology can help you figure out some stuff
01:09:24.020to better connect with your bronze age ancestors and to get a better understanding of
01:09:33.260how they believed I think your best step is to jump in and practice house of truth the way we
01:09:41.700do it now and use that as a way to use that as a starting point in a context to speculate on
01:09:52.220and i think we do this in the inverse a lot i think we take elements of the past and we try
01:10:01.940to scale them up through history of what how they might have how they might develop
01:10:05.820i think rather than questioning how they might let's look at how they have developed
01:10:11.340let's look at modern aussitude and then scale that back to the bronze age thinking
01:10:17.000well what would this have looked like in their con in their social context in where they were
01:10:23.440living how would if we were going to do an afa bloat for 2023 but we were bronze age tribesmen
01:10:31.600on the baltic somewhere what would we have done and i think that's going to get you much closer
01:10:38.700it's one of those things that you know just as a as a flight of fancy i i've always
01:10:43.920I've always wondered, you know, what people at different times would think if they watched something the AFA was doing, if they watched one of our rituals.
01:10:55.100and it is my sincere belief and hope that you know a viking age guy from norway uh germanic
01:11:09.140tribesmen from you know the turn of the the first millennium or of the zero point of the
01:11:16.400Millenniums, I guess, someone in the Bronze Age or in the Neolithic that was our folk,
01:11:24.920they wouldn't understand the words that we were saying. Some of them may recognize the names of
01:11:32.080the gods we were using. They wouldn't understand the clothes that we were wearing or the setting
01:11:41.780that we were in maybe but i believe that they all would understand the process of what was going on
01:11:49.060and i believe very strongly they would feel the communal worship and that they would feel that
01:11:54.980connection with our gods because our gods aren't bound by language or by time our bound our gods
01:12:03.220would connect with those people standing in the circle just as well as they would connect with us
01:12:10.260assuming that those people were sincere in their in their worship and the practice of
01:12:14.260house of truth um and i think that they would understand what we're doing and so i think that
01:12:19.860that's getting in in that mindset and then scaling that back towards their circumstance
01:12:26.340isn't going to be perfect but i think that's going to get you closer than
01:12:30.100some of the other the other things that are possible
01:12:39.540Oh, so, yep. Usually I handle a bunch of this at the beginning, but due to our technical
01:12:50.140difficulties, I neglected to. Winter Nights coming up last weekend of this month at Sigurheim
01:12:58.580in Jackson County, Tennessee. Please come and join us. It is going to be awesome. We talked
01:13:06.420about how at winter nights, the veil between the world is thinnest. And that's the time for
01:13:13.500communicating with people across the veil. Some of you may or may not know, we have a graveyard
01:13:19.480on the Sigurheim property. Very old graveyard. As a matter of fact, I interred my mother's ashes
01:13:27.440there um in july but we have and we're still it's was in such bad condition when we took ownership
01:13:38.320and we're remedying that but we're still searching for a number of these graves but there are
01:13:45.840as far as we are aware there should be 13 graves at minimum there
01:13:52.400um many of them from the early or many of them from the mid 1800s we actually have a a gentleman
01:14:01.280there who was a revolutionary who fought in the revolutionary war and he's his remains are there
01:14:11.120and we're going to be doing the de-seer blow in that graveyard amongst uh amongst the the remains
01:14:19.040our ancestors of these ancestors there in that really special place and so it's going to be a
01:14:25.360really great event i look forward to everyone here making it if you guys can please reach out to your
01:14:30.400folk builder and get all set up i would love to see you guys there but it's going to be a very
01:14:34.880very special event also feast of the iron here you are in south dakota coming up november 10th
01:14:43.040through the 12th i would love to see you guys there it's going to be spectacular it's going
01:14:48.160going to be awesome i'm going to be there i believe the mcnallans are going to be there
01:14:52.480and it's going to be a really good event so i hope you guys can make it out we would love to see you
01:14:56.800there um matt thought on thoughts on what's going on with palestine this is a disaster and i think
01:15:42.720The battle between Muslims and Jews, between Arabs and Jews in that part of the world is ancient and ongoing and probably will continue to be so.
01:16:00.520Neither of those groups of people are our people, and I think in a lot of ways we don't have a particular dog in that fight.
01:16:10.600i certainly don't have a particular dog in that fight what i will say is
01:16:18.520needless suffering of women and children is bad and makes me sad and i feel bad for those people
01:16:27.640whatever kind of people they might be i feel bad for women and children suffering the ravages of
01:16:34.120war um i think that's awful when either side of people does that i think targeting civilians is
01:16:44.840is a terrible thing to do and i think that's kind of a an understood part of what makes us
01:16:51.560aryan people is that that is abhorrent to our to our soul on a certain level
01:16:58.680I think our people are the people that have established.
01:17:07.760I think that our people are people who have established proper codes of conduct in those kind of situations to minimize suffering by women and children.
01:17:20.620And so I think that's a thing that stands out that is always, always painful to see happen.
01:17:28.680I mean, I'm paying attention like everybody else, I'm curious about what's going on.
01:17:34.920But yeah, that's what stands out to me.
01:17:36.360Do you have any thoughts on that, Tyler?
01:17:45.140I'd say that area has historically always been contentious.
01:17:50.620I don't think there's many modern countries that don't have some sort of past where their
01:17:55.620gentry classes try to claim that land is theirs.
01:17:58.680And with that, in the modern context, I think my approach to the Middle East and all foreign conflicts to this, not my land, not my problem. I think we need to focus on what we can do. And of course, I feel for any undue suffering or needless collateral damage within any conflict.
01:18:20.380But there was never a timeline where they weren't going to fight over land they both claimed.
01:18:27.620So with that, you know, whatever your personal thoughts are on the subject are, I think the big takeaway is it's unfortunate when civilians get involved and when we're dealing with urban environments, there's going to be a lot of that.
01:18:43.280that said do not let those unfortunate collateral damage which unfortunately is just a part of
01:18:51.060warfare when you deal with large amounts of ordinance don't let that get you emotionally
01:18:55.260hyped up to where you put yourself in a situation where you think you're invested in someone else's
01:18:59.960fight four more do not benefit us you know what i've got a another thing that i want to say what
01:19:07.980But what is unfortunate in our circles, and this is following upon Tyler's comment about letting yourself get emotionally drawn in, because the circles that people on this show run in, a lot of people have some ingrained views on stuff.
01:19:29.640And it's very, very easy to get emotionally wrapped up and to start fighting amongst ourselves over something thousands of miles away involving different tribes of people that are not ours.
01:19:44.840um i would caution against that as strongly as i can allowing a conflict between arabs and jews to
01:19:56.960destabilize relationships we have amongst ourselves
01:20:02.420that's that's an unforced error that just doesn't need to be there
01:20:09.820So I would urge people who get worked up about that to exercise a certain amount of grace
01:20:24.960in dealing with your fellow Alcetruar, your fellow Aryans, your fellow people who are
01:20:32.740in our circles allow for people to get emotional about certain stuff and cut each other some slack
01:20:42.500on it a little bit so that we don't become entrenched over an issue that really
01:20:48.820shouldn't fundamentally affect us i do think this is going to be an excuse for western
01:20:54.660governments specifically our government to throw lots of of our hard-earned money
01:20:59.060at other people to get other benefits out of it
01:22:14.260Thor, the association of lightning and Thor is a way for our ancestors to communicate to us the might and the power and the quick reaction of Thor.
01:22:32.440The fear and the terror at the heavens striking down at the earth tells you about Thor, helps you conceptualize Thor.
01:22:46.120Every piece of lightning is not the intentioned will of Thor.
01:22:51.560We can explain lots of lightning by lots of weather patterns and meteorology that we all understand.
01:22:57.860Natural things happen because they've been set in motion to happen.
01:23:02.100Now, the gods can work through nature to express their will in specific ways,
01:23:10.160but it doesn't mean every circumstance of that.
01:23:13.380Odin sends ravens to communicate messages.
01:23:16.880Ravens absolutely can be signs of the gods.
01:23:20.340But more often than not, ravens are just ravens out there living their life being ravens.
01:23:24.840just because a God works through something that's natural
01:23:29.480doesn't mean all instances of that natural phenomenon
01:23:32.940are the intentioned will of one of those gods
01:23:50.660and we see struggle throughout our lore
01:23:53.280our gods are extremely powerful there are other forces that have a lot of power too
01:24:01.820um but when we look at at the the bigger forces of the universe I think it's kind of a ridiculous
01:24:13.000claim by other people that their gods are all-powerful because clearly the world doesn't
01:24:23.560work like that when when gods when every single thing is the will of of an all-powerful singular
01:24:29.680god and there's no other things that can act upon it that god is the only thing that has power
01:24:34.660then they bear a certain amount of responsibility for every bad thing that happens
01:24:42.340I don't think that's one of the things about our lore that's refreshing.
01:24:46.280Our gods aren't responsible for all of the suffering in existence.
01:24:51.540Our gods are responsible for a lot of the not suffering,
01:24:55.120a lot of the great things and the joy that exists.
01:24:59.000We try to work the will of our gods in Midgard
01:25:04.100to alleviate suffering and bad things for our folk.
01:25:07.280There's a lot of things that relate to the benefit in society that our gods provide through their benevolence, but there's never been a claim that they are all powerful over all things.
01:25:20.780There's certainly an interplay of power between our gods and other forces in the universe, and I think our lore says that very clearly.
01:25:29.580i think the only thing i'd add to that is all powerful is a very human perspective
01:25:43.200if you were to compare an infant a three-month-old baby for instance to a 45-year-old professional
01:25:51.420flat roof i think we would safely say that in terms of roofing the 45-year-old is all powerful
01:25:57.560comparatively so a little bit of perspective our gods are absolutely very powerful but
01:26:04.520scale it yeah they're orders of magnitude more powerful than you or i but as far as gods go
01:26:16.280no there's not that level of that's not the way the universe works
01:26:23.160uh what are your thoughts on freya and ostara being the same goddess
01:26:27.560Tom Rousel makes the claim that they might be the same, similar to how Yngvi and Freyja are the same, and considering Freyja and Freyja mean lord and lady, he claims that Freyja's actual name is Yngvi, and that it's possible that Freyja's actual name is Ostara.
01:27:11.740I don't want my focus on here to ever be beaten up on other people that are, you know, in
01:27:20.920broad terms on our side about some stuff but i do think i gotta answer questions honestly
01:27:27.800i think tom rousell focuses on scholarship and studies about the gods
01:27:33.640instead of worshiping the gods and i think that really affects the way that he goes about these
01:27:41.240things. No, I don't think that Freya and Ostara are the same goddess. There's no reason to think
01:27:56.000they are the same. And in order for me to consider that I might be wrong in that, I would need
01:28:07.200significant reason. And there's zero reasoning in the argument that was just displayed, if that's how Tom Rousel thinks. Yes, frere means Lord, and frere means lady.
01:49:36.220Where it comes from is curious, and I'm not sure.
01:49:39.120And one of the, people not, so, other, and I'm sure that other racial groups have this, but to a American, to a Western eye, we don't see this often.
01:50:05.460And it is very beneficial to the current way of thinking to consider blacks as a unified, everyone from sub-Saharan Africa equals, you know, this one unified black culture.
01:50:25.540everyone from asia we say asia but everyone from asia east of india is one people but that white
01:50:38.500people are this you know menagerie of all these different ethnicities and i think that is very
01:50:47.660unfair and one-sided and a way to help other groups have a very strong identity while
01:50:55.820tearing down our identity as a group on the same playing field now that said yes there are lots of
01:51:02.540different ethnicities amongst white people or sub-ethnic groups amongst white people we celebrate
01:51:09.180out we know that thing to the extent that in america many of us are a collection of a variety
01:51:19.020of different european ethnicities that's true i think it's also very true and important to realize
01:51:26.380that the average black american is a mixture of lots and lots of different tribal groups from
01:51:33.500africa um i think that asian people are you know a vast difference of different ethnicities in you
01:51:44.860know the eastern half of the asian continent um there's a variety amongst big racial groups of
01:51:53.260people but i think this clouds the bigger issue most people are not a mixture of those broad
01:52:01.980races of people they may be a mixture of a lot of different ethnicities within a race
01:52:09.180but most people it's still not the norm for people to have all of those different races
01:52:16.780involved in and i think that's a lie that a lot of people have been told and we've seen that in
01:52:22.940united states for a really long time and i don't think it originated as a political tool against
01:52:29.900white folks i think you see a lot of that in the you know as far back as you can go in america as
01:52:37.820a nation in the southern half of the country you have almost everybody's got some cherokee princess
01:52:43.660grandma story in their ancestry almost all of those stories are completely not true and made up
01:52:51.580for what purpose i don't know i think it was socially cool to claim to be part um
01:52:57.100um part Native American at a time when there was you know kind of a romance to the the noble
01:53:05.140savage mythology um I don't know but again I don't think especially in that antebellum southern
01:53:13.960culture I don't think there was some desire to exalt a different race of people or to mitigate
01:53:19.900white people's pride in themselves I don't think that was the origin but I do think that's what
01:53:25.360come to do at this at this stage you have thoughts on it tyler i do i'm gonna share a little bit
01:53:33.680about my wife and i digging into our ancestry together uh it was one of those things where my
01:53:39.520family and her family both come from you know a culture of uh ancestral veneration even though we
01:53:46.880weren't from astrew families and with that we had a lot of advantages when it came to genealogy
01:53:51.760it was really cool to see the difference between ethnic history and geographical history and what
01:53:57.920i mean by that is we saw that we had a lot of english geographic ancestors but when we looked
01:54:05.920into it they were straight danelaw so they had they had come over during the great viking invasion
01:54:12.080and conquered land and stayed there we had people that were pioneers they followed the
01:54:17.760handcart companies over across america we had family that both settled settled maine it's one
01:54:24.080of those things where if you really know your history if you know your family's history
01:54:29.120you start to see that it all kind of starts to coalesce into one larger larger story so when we
01:54:35.760talk about you know indo-european expansion and people coming along and traveling in different
01:54:42.720waves what we find is that the whole celt germanic norse slav differences they all have a very
01:54:50.800similar origin point in fact they have the same origin point so when you talk about ethnogenesis
01:54:56.400you find that yes we are ethnically distinct but when you go far enough back we all come from the
01:55:02.160same waves of arian people and that's not to say that racially that's true but ethnically it
01:55:09.840absolutely is so when we looked at our genealogy when we looked at it ethnically what we found was
01:55:16.000that our ancient half half groups were so succinct that we could draw a 30 mile radius
01:55:23.760um and all of our ancient tribes were more than 30 miles her outlier um tribal group was one of
01:55:33.120my core and my outlier was one of her core but it came from the same 30 miles i think it's really
01:55:37.920interesting that no matter how much traveling we did how much how much traveling and expansion my
01:55:42.080ancestors did conquering the traveling be pioneering we ended up together despite the
01:55:47.200fact that thousands of years ago our families were within 30 miles but in the modern sense we
01:55:54.400travel thousands we end up within 30 miles of each other as well i think in general when we talk about
01:56:01.440the the variety of ethnic groups within white folk i think we get so caught up in the weeds
01:56:07.120of looking at our differences that we don't really notice that reality is we're white people
01:56:13.280it really is that simple so embrace your heritage be proud of the history of your people the
01:56:19.600ethnic groups the sub-ethnic groups that you come from because that's
01:56:22.640ancestral veneration but don't forget that those ancestors all come from the same common stock
01:56:27.200absolutely um what do you think about the claim that freya and frig are the same
01:56:38.000that's absurd they're absolutely not um one of the biggest things is you see them
01:56:44.480representing two very distinct polarities of female existence
01:56:49.680in Aryan myth cycles generally there are two different kinds of goddesses they're what are
01:57:01.500called the horse goddess and the cow goddess the idea of the untamed wild outside of societal
01:57:12.240relationships magical to a degree chaotic female um existence you see that in the sorceress in the
01:57:28.720the sexualized goddess in the this idea associated with
01:57:36.400sex, with lust, with magic, with that untamed femininity, you see that very much as hallmarks
01:57:49.500of Freya. With Frigg, you see the motherly figure, the figure involved in the rearing
01:57:56.260of children, the goddess of queens, and of ladies of dignity with a social position.
01:58:03.400women the the unmarried female outside of society you know wild and untamed versus the
01:58:12.380in the context of society noble motherly figure are two very distinct aspects of femininity and
01:58:20.140they're two very distinct types of goddesses freya and freg are very obviously two very distinct
02:16:41.720I think that the Vedic gods, the most ancient of Hindu deities, are Aryan deities, and that's certainly a thing.
02:17:07.820but there's the inclusion of quite a bit of Dravidian deities as well
02:17:12.760the original Aryans that populated India and brought that faith there have been
02:17:22.520extremely intermixed with other groups of people over those years specifically with the Dravidians
02:17:31.060And by this current time, those clearly not white people worshiping and interacting with white gods, it's not really up to me to say, and I mean this, I'm absolutely focused on the right way to exist is worshiping the gods of your people and your ancestors.
02:17:55.280That said, I can't, nor do I presume to speak for who the gods do and don't listen to.
02:18:05.420That's not, I would never want to be blasphemous by projecting, you know, I'm not the arbiter of who can possibly reach out to the gods and how they possibly interact with that.
02:18:18.820I think that in any case, that group of people being so intermixed with other different races of people
02:18:28.280is a fundamental thing that separates them and distances them from our gods.
02:18:35.520And how the gods choose to deal with that or not is entirely up to them.
02:18:41.760That's not the appropriate practice for worshiping Alcetru.
02:18:48.360in the form that we you know the way that we approach our gods so those people certainly
02:18:53.720are not welcome to join the afa if they're not our folk how they determine their spiritual destiny
02:19:00.760and whether or not whatever gods they reach out to reach back to them is between them and
02:19:05.320and the gods i suppose um again i don't think that's the best practice on their part but i'm
02:19:12.200I'm not going to presume that I have the ability to make that decision for our gods on how they view that or they don't.
02:19:26.360It's less than ideal, and it's certainly less than the way that we practice our faith.
02:19:38.960With that, I think we're at the end of our questions tonight.
02:19:41.940Tyler, do you have anything that you want to, any last thoughts you want to leave people with or anything you would like to tell folks?
02:19:56.120I think we just got another question, actually.
02:20:01.380um as far as anything i want to leave people with it's if something's not happening in your
02:20:09.540area with the afa you are the first person that can change that we do the unity call on sundays
02:20:17.060we are doing something once a month the ninth that doesn't require you to travel anywhere
02:20:21.860but if you want to see change in your area if you want to see more activity absolutely
02:20:26.580reach out to a folk builder and we will see what we can do to get things going in your area
02:20:31.620ultimately it's it's not just the folk builders not just the go-thar they're going to get things
02:20:36.020happening it's our members no matter what titles or lack of titles they have so please
02:20:43.620do not hesitate to get involved in the real world
02:20:49.780the real world is where asa true happens thinking about it debating about it pondering it
02:20:55.620is not the same as practicing um so last couple of questions here
02:21:03.380would the afa consider building hops to frig and freya before the 12 hops of the icr are finished
02:21:09.540or are you guys dead set on finishing those 12 before anything else we are dead set on finishing
02:21:16.020those 12 before anything else that said obviously and i'm not being silly in any way
02:21:25.620And if there were some sort of divine interaction where the gods tell me to do it differently, then sure, we will change all of our plans at a moment's notice.
02:21:38.060If the gods reach out and say, hey, change it up, barring that, we're going to do the 12 Iseer first the way we've been playing.
02:21:46.660That's the commitment we've been on. It's been the path that has led us to success.
02:21:53.180That's the commitment that we made and that we're trying to do.
02:21:56.380But if the gods reach out and tell me to do something different, we'll certainly do something different.
02:22:03.620How should we deal with the religions now that plan forced conversions in the future?
02:22:23.740no one can force you to convert you just have to be aware of how much you're willing to sacrifice
02:22:30.140to stay true to your beliefs and your ancestral path i don't think it's a concern because i think
02:22:38.060as things get more difficult and other religions get more intent on forceful methods our people
02:22:46.700will come together more and more and if history has shown us anything as soon as people try and
02:22:53.180put us up against a wall. We always snap right back to being a unified front. I would say
02:22:59.360that no one can force you and you can take the route of your most honorable ancestors
02:23:07.060and stick to it to the very end. You know, the only, again, I think this question is
02:23:16.380It's focusing, and I appreciate the question.
02:23:20.680I do, I'm not being insulted, but I think it's focusing on the wrong things.
02:23:25.660I don't think there's anything you can do right now to affect religions that you think one day might try to force you to convert by, you know, violent means.
02:23:39.260I don't see any religion in the world that is trying to violently force you to become something else other than Islam.
02:23:51.000I don't think the sects of Islam that we see in the West, certainly in the United States, are in any position to force you to give up your faith and to join theirs in any conceivable, reasonable future.
02:24:05.240like there's a lot better things to be focusing on i don't think there's anything that you can
02:24:10.640do now that will fix that scenario right now we have laws and social buttressing in our country
02:24:19.880to prevent forced conversions as best as we can um outside of that i don't know any steps that
02:24:28.340you can take right now that will really make any difference or help you with that but you
02:24:32.840could spend time instead of focusing on that focusing on building the things that you love
02:24:37.520and the things that you building this faith and full-throatedly and practicing this faith
02:24:44.360as much as possible instead of postulating 100 years down the road a situation that might occur
02:24:53.800or might not tomorrow you can redouble your house of truth practice and i think that's a more
02:25:01.080important place to put that emphasis um and so get the sheila mcnellan wants me to emphasize
02:25:11.800to you guys how important it is if you are an afa member to be active on me
02:25:19.160some people don't like me some people would rather use any other
02:25:23.160social media that they're much more comfortable with
02:25:25.400that's really unfortunate if that's more important than participating being part of your church
02:25:34.700if you're going to spend time using social media the afa conducts our internal afa membership stuff
02:25:43.220on me we as far as social media goes is it the best does it reach the most people no but we've
02:25:50.380been kicked off of Facebook and Instagram because of religious persecution, because of who we are
02:25:56.540and what we believe. So MeWe is the platform that's open to us, and we use it to the best
02:26:01.900of our ability. We have very active groups for a number of interests. We have regional groups
02:26:06.920around each of the Hoff districts. MeWe is where the AFA is interacting with each of our members
02:26:13.420on a daily basis, absolutely participate in the real world, do that.
02:26:19.780But if you're spending time on social media and you're in the AFA,