10⧸12⧸22 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 14 - Gythia Edition
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Summary
Join us this week as we interview three members of the Astru Folk Assembly, Githia Anna Plourd, Sheila MacNallan, and Katie Erickson. We talk about their backgrounds, how they came to the AFA, and what it means to be a true AFA member.
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hello folk and welcome to our weekly as a true folk assembly podcast victory never sleeps
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i am witten brandy callahan and i will be hosting for our i'll share our go the matthew
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Lavelle, who is currently in route to our National Winter Nights this weekend. When he asked me who
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I would like to interview this weekend, I could not pass up the opportunity to bring in the
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Githias of the AFA. These are some of my very best friends. These are the women that I look up to
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and I rely on the most. And it's a great opportunity for all of us to be in one place at one time.
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So I would like to welcome all of our Githias, Githia Anna Plourd, Githia Sheila MacNallan, and Githia Katie Erickson.
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So I just want to go ahead and introduce these ladies a little bit, and I'm going to start with Githia Anna Plourd.
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i discovered also true after many many years of just being an atheist
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um i slowly came to the realization that there had to be something more than you know fedoras
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and snarkiness um so i started looking into you know my family history where did we come from
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And I discovered this whole world of we have gods, we have goddesses, we have heroes, you know, we have our own legends.
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And it made so much more sense to me than, you know, some foreign god in a land that looked nothing like the lands of my ancestors.
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um so i spent the next few years then as kind of a solo practitioner you know having blood with a
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few other people every now and again but mostly just being on my own and then around you know
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2016 i discovered i'd heard of the afa for quite some time but then i actually made the move to
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join the afa the first fall fest was my first event and i was made to feel so welcome um
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i you know i have friends that i still talk to from that event and i just came away so happy
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that i'd found i'd found home and over the next few years i started doing book studies with that
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group um the folk builder there jason gallagher he's always he's always been in my corner he's
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always i'm like hey let's do this or he'd always support whatever whatever idea i came up with
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and so i started doing doing all the bloats up or a lot of the blood stuff there and then he
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started peer pressuring me into applying for the gothar program and by peer pressuring i mean
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every single week did you apply it did you apply it come on deadline's coming up you better apply
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and so i went through that i did that at the same time as i did a nursing program which i
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don't recommend doing that um because you will lose your mind but in 2019 i was ordained
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saw Baldershof finally be opened, saw that become a reality for us. And then in 2021,
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I got married to Jason Plourd, and we moved down to Florida. And we helped open up Mjordshof,
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which is the fourth Hof, fourth Hof of the Astru Folk Assembly. Happy to be here.
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and we are glad to have you here you're actually one of the very first people that i ever met in
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the afa and i still have um pictures of you and i together when i hair like this long
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so we've known each other yeah we've known each other a long time and i don't think we've ever
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missed an event where we haven't been together until you move to florida so
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long time with Anna. Come down and visit. I should. I will soon.
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Next up, we have the lady who really doesn't need an introduction, but we're going to let
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her introduce herself anyway. The official frith weaver of the As True Folk Assembly,
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Githia Sheila McNallan. Ah, thank you very much. Yeah, so in thinking about my beginnings,
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that the unconditional love that was poured on her.
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but i did get a glimpse of some of the stories i saw the pictures on the wall
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and for me my parents both sides my family my mother and my father both have very very irish
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roots um even though there's some english some went to massachusetts in the late 1600s you know
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i've got that i've got that in there too and i'm very tied in with those people but um one of my
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grandmother's told me one time she said well you know where are the o'neils of the castle
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and i'm not sure which family line she was talking about that was of course the o'neils of ireland
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and at that point gee we've got a castle someplace i was sure i was destined to live in the castle
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um and it wasn't until um much later going to ireland spending time there um really resonating
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with the ancient nature of the place the um the deep spirituality i felt there um but um
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also in doing dna later um and looking at the haplogroup the male haplogroup that my brother
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has which is rm222 and that goes back to u o'neil you know so there we go um it was very very true
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but i was raised catholic um catholicism did not answer what i needed i was orphaned as a child
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my father died suddenly when i was i just turned five and my mother went back to work as a nurse
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and then became afflicted with cancer that she dealt with for several years and none of us knew
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that this was terminal you know even the week before she died i was told well she's going to
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stay in the hospital but i'll just visit the hospital for the next 50 years you know kind of
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thing but um so you know going to church praying to god all those things really did nothing for me
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i was i was terrified by the nuns um i found latin confusing and all those things
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and but i always had this spiritual nature and i always had this connection with ancestors
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and it was much later that I kind of started delving into the Celtic stuff a little bit,
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obviously, and I still resonate. This is my time of year. There's no doubt. October
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really feels right to me. But it was many years later that I happened to meet Stephen McNallan
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and embarked on a journey of discovering Vikings, for one thing, which were really not in my
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ancestry at all as i said it was mainly irish and english and german on my grandfather's side
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but um but that's kind of where we were this is back in the early 90s and that is my introduction
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to aussitrew was calling it quote a viking religion and so to me i it just it was fine
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for others it wasn't really mine but then of course over the time i just really came back to
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me oh my gosh vikings were everywhere they settled those cities in ireland and um you know they were
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all over but besides we're talking germanic tribes and the germanic tribes are our people
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and they were all over europe and um it all of course fell into place for me at that point i said
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of course i can embrace this this is just these are my people these are my ancestors my ancestors
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did this and i've never never gone back to anything else i can't imagine doing anything
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other than following also true in our way and it's been an absolute pleasure to have been on
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the very beginning of the austria folk assembly because that's where i was um not the two pre the
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those incarnations that happened first, but that was where I was.
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And it was really at my encouragement that Steve went ahead and said, we're going to
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try another membership organization, we're going to do this.
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And my thing is, I want to start having moot, we didn't call them moots then, I want to
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start having, well, we always called them gatherings.
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And I said, let's have the folk over, we're going to do a folk gathering.
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that point when we were trying to come up with a name it was well we can't do ouster free assembly
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again and i said well why not folk it's what we always talk about it's our folk we love our folk
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and so it became now through folk assembly that was my contribution so and here we are today
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and no minor contribution githia mcnelly it was no minor contribution so what uh
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What folks don't realize is just how much Sheila has done ever since the beginning.
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Sheila has always been one half of that driving force that has created this amazing church that
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we are all a part of now. So thank you, Githya. You're very welcome. Thank you, Brad.
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And next we have Githya Katie Erickson. Katie, can you tell us a little bit about yourself?
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hi everyone um i was born and raised catholic um my mother still thinks she's going to hell because
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i am no longer catholic and so that means she failed in her job as a mother to raise me properly
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or something i'm not really sure but christian guilt um when i was 12 i discovered that something
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other than christianity existed um and after taking a very long and meandering path mostly
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by myself for many years i found um a it's not really also true it's called theodism but they
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worship our gods uh just in a different manner i found that and i was a theodish for many years
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before finding the afa um and finding the afa was the best thing that's ever happened to me i
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I couldn't remember exactly when at this point.
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I think I said it the last time I was on this call.
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I still have no idea what he said to me when he proposed
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because everybody in Sambal was, it was cacophonous.
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uh and joined the godhar program in 2017 was ordained in 2018 uh with our fellow
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all three of you actually think we were all in the class together actually
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not you brandy you're in a different class but um
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that's where i have been i've it's pretty simple this is what happened in the past doesn't really
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matter because this is where we are now and it's the best place to be so that's me true statement
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sierra asks how long have each of you been githias in the afa so i think we kind of
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answered that a little bit um i was ordained in 2021 at the um dedication of baldersov
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um i was ordained at fall fest in 2019 so three years wow it's been three years in three years
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wow okay miss not long no miss sheila how about you you know i wish i had my certificate right
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here um i'm going to say i know it was not a huge crowd it was a beautiful nighttime ceremony
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in our ritual circle and i want to say it was 2020 probably you will at 2020
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and that's my guess but regardless it's very special things have happened to me
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and the highlights of my life regardless of the dates yes katie
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uh if anna was ordained in 2019 then i was wrong when i said 2018 because i was ordained at winter
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nights like three weeks later after anna was ordained i don't know why i remember that because
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i just i do i think i was just excited about it for all of us so yeah i'm the thing that i could
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have been 2019. I'll check that out. I think you were. Yeah. I'm flying. Tony King of Cheese
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asks us, for when the chat questions start getting answered, Githias, how are you all
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doing tonight? How is everybody doing tonight? Okay, I'm going to start. I'm doing really
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well. It was a very, very busy day getting ready for this. We have winter nights coming up. Three
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day event at Odin's Hof, starting with the food pantry where Steve and I go out and get all the
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food tomorrow, load it in our cars, and are gone for half the day. But I've also had some wonderful
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news today. My son called me and said that he is going to be a father at age 43. I'm very happy
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about it has a lovely lady who is the mother of his child and it was it's a very much a blessing
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in my family um did not expect this to happen so shared the news a while ago with my brother
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my sister we're all thrilled yeah we have a very small family so when these things happen
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it's pretty remarkable so that's been a very good day for that congratulations sheila thank you
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you. Anna, how are you doing? I'm doing great. I'm gearing up for our first winter nights at
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New York's Hof. Every first is going to be just the first time at each new Hof. So now it's like,
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this is the first time that we're going to do this in this new spot of ours. That's also the
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same day as our food pantry. So that's, I believe, going to be at 10 to 1130 and then bloat
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it's going to be after that but we're we're all just excited and we're getting
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you know ready for you know each new event each new chapter that we're writing over there
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yes i uh i'm operating on about two hours of sleep in the last 48 hours and i'm overcoming a cold
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But I am super excited because Winter Nights 11 is this weekend in Ohio.
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My husband and I run the event, and I'm looking forward to seeing everybody there.
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It's both the most stressful thing I do every year and also the thing I most enjoy doing every year
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because uh winter nights and the desire bloat are kind of have a special place in my heart but
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so that that excitement is definitely superseding any of the stress and discomfort i might be
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feeling otherwise you said this is winter nights 11. it is 11 years we've been having this event
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unfortunately it's our first year not doing it at uh the camp we used to go to uh they stopped
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being a they became a not for not not for profit camp in order to overcome covid um so they no
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longer take outside groups which is very sad because we had a very good relationship with
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that camp but we're moving onwards and upwards and our new location for this year will it'll
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will be pretty awesome. Trent asks, good evening, Githias. Thank you for all, for everything that
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y'all do. A question for each of you. What is your favorite part of being a Githia?
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Hmm. There's a lot of my favorite parts of being a Githia. There's a lot of hard work, but there's
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also a lot of joy and a lot of beauty in being a Gythea. I think one of my favorite parts of
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being a Gythea is doing a Wayfarer's Bloat. That bloat brings me a lot of joy. When I do Wayfarer's
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bloat, I tend to do my Wayfarer's bloat to Frigga. And I focus on not only sending my folk off
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for a safe journey, but to a happy and healthy home when they get there. And I think that's
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really important. So I always try to put that as part of the bloat. One thing I always have people
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do as well is to look around the circle and remember the frit that they that they shared
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at that event or at that moot or whatever it is that we're leaving from and to look across the
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circle and to look to their left and to the right and look at the faces of their folk and remember
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that in good times and in bad times these people will be here for you they can you can lean on them
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they're your church they're your family they're your folk and no matter what happens in life
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you'll be able to rely on the people standing there with you so
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i think that's my favorite part of being a kithia anna what do you think
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there is a lot that i love about being a kithia like you said there's a lot of it that's very hard
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um my favorite part is watching is watching people actually come home and knowing that
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they're home i know a lot of people have come to this faith from a place of isolation where you
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may not have felt like you had anything that was yours you didn't have a place spiritually that
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was yours like you were kind of renting somebody else's somebody else's faith or somebody else's
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path to watch somebody come in and look around maybe at an event and hang out and start talking
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to the other the other people there and realize i'm home this is mine i can't get kicked out of
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sheila well she kind of said it all i would have to say the same thing
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to great extent being there at the door to welcome people home um i've loved our slogans
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that we've always had from going back into the 90s the way the ancestors calling us home it's
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about roots it's about connections it's about coming home i've always wanted it to be that
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for our people and um i do everything i can to encourage them to come and then make them feel
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like oh my gosh how did i ever live without this you know and a lot of people feel that way they
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truly um have that bonding that sense of purpose the sense of connection that they never had
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anywhere else especially in this time i think that we we really offer something very very unique
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through our church and i want to make most of it and it's like i'm desperately reaching out to
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people just saying whoa please come by you're going to be quite amazed by what you find on
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the other hand the people who come are the people i always say who should be there sometimes the
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people we expect to come don't come another thing that i think is very important about being a give
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you is um that balance of male female and our gods and our goddesses and i love to explore the
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the attributes of our goddesses to some extent for our women so that they um feel that they
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definitely have deities to connect with and that is sometimes lost because we've always
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well very much on on our um our male entities on male entities a male um gods and the gods rather
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than goddesses sometimes so that's very important um and winter nights my goodness it is it is you
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know having experienced some katie's rituals and enjoying my own so much and i feel that is a time
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for us truly to connect um with ancestors and i think we do and i love that ability for us i always
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have told people around me you are never alone my husband speaks to that you're never alone you
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always have your ancestors with you and of course our gods as well but you know everybody who's not
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even found out secure you have your ancestors you're never alone so those are the some of the
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things that that i i kind of promote those ideas and again it's about well-being trying to make
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people feel healthy and happy and cared for this is katie your favorite part of that it's hard to
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sum it up in in a short and concise statement because there are many things um and i think
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this applies to everybody in our godhar who everybody who is a godhar uh performing baby
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namings and weddings are amazing um being able to perform a ritual for our folk and help them connect
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to their to their gods that's amazing uh but i think one of my most favorite parts about being
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is helping our female membership connect to the female divine uh to our female gods to our desir
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uh even to each other because um asatru has been uh not the most friendly place for women in the
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past um just i mean it is like sheila said earlier you look at it as the or many people
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look at it as being the viking religion because that's how for many many years it was portrayed
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and when i first found theotism which i mentioned earlier it was very male oriented and very much a
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like a drinking club for dudes and the chicks just kind of happen to be there sometimes so to
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see so many women finding Asatru and connecting to our gods and goddesses and connecting to each
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other on a deeper much more potent level is really it's very rewarding to me to be able to
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be uh help facilitate that in any way um because it's it's hard to be a woman it's hard to be a
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woman with children it's hard to be a woman who doesn't have children um i'm not saying it's not
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hard to be a man but it's you know each each thing has its own negative side or its own problems or
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its own complications and uh being able to help our women bond and find the community that helps
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them through their troubles and through their loneliness and through all of the things that go
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on in their lives at the different stages of their lives is really that's probably one of my favorite
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part. I think another one of my favorite parts is working so closely with the other women in
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leadership and the bonds that you build. I know the four of us have built a very long-lasting,
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dedicated, and strong friendship just from working together, spending so much time together,
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talking to each other on the phone, calling each other for advice. So this is where I've met
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my best friends. So I really do appreciate all of our leadership, especially our female
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leadership. We always say that there's so many more women in the AFA today. And the same goes
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for our women leadership as well we have a lot of beautiful women strong women um in folk builder
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positions also as githias and it's a real honor to work with those women so i'm going to take a
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minute and i'm going to just give a couple shout outs and i'm going to invite our githias to do
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the same and we might do a few more shout outs throughout the podcast here but one person i
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definitely want to say thank you to is folk builder Sarah Ault in Wisconsin. She is a powerhouse of
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leadership. She is a strong woman and a wise woman and we definitely appreciate all that she's done.
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She throws so much of herself into everything that she does from maintaining the Baldershof
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website, to helping with the folklore study, to the Baldershof ladies study, just to building
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breadth amongst, you know, the community in Baldershof and the AFA itself. So if you really
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are interested in what it's like to be a woman in the AFA, Sarah is very, very involved and she
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could definitely, definitely point you in the right direction. And yep, her email is down there. So
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reach out to Sarah if you're in the Wisconsin area or surrounding area. I'm sure she'd love
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to talk to you. So Anna, you got anybody? In New York South District. So when I got down here,
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I was the new kid. We have a great group of women down here that immediately made me feel like I
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was home like i wasn't some stranger just showing up um so we have she's she's not an official
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member of leadership but um pam mccloskey has just been everybody's cheerleader down here
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she has been like everybody's den mother down here she has run that kitchen at new york's half
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we have we have like the best meals coming out of that kitchen and she she just does so much for all
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of us awesome i'm so happy that we've met sheila you got anybody in mind yeah so uh odenshof is a
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very old building it was built in 1938 and we got it in 19 2015 and it was it was showing its age
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but we've had to do some repairs such as the roof and a new eight thousand dollars stove and things
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like that that meant that we had to delay doing other repairs like our floor our beautiful um
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clear-grained red fur floor that we have is very, very worn and got damaged when we had a lot of
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leaking from our roof. So it's been a real concern for me, you know, the fundraising,
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how are we going to raise the money? We have a very expensive tax bill, not tax, insurance bill.
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We had to get our insurance to the state of California because we're in a fire zone.
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and it just has a huge price tag ready Odensoff and we want it to look really beautiful when
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people come so a person who really stepped in recently and it just every time I turn around
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there's a new project and that is Ashley Stockton. Ashley who is who's just started the Odensoff
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restoration project and you may know that she has one of Christine Dumas's beautiful scarves that
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she um put up as a virtual raffle for this month and afa members from all over started buying
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tickets buying raffle tickets for us and i think to date we've made like eight hundred dollars
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on the scarf and we now have um um stan is that how you say his name justin penner who is donating
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one of his gorgeous horns and so we're going to be doing this and you know that's ashley
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she's thinking how can we how can we make this place shine as it and you know it's odin's
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health of all things we need to give it the best we can and she's always got a project going while
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working while raising her child and working sometimes double shifts as a cna just whatever
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she's out there sleeping in her car just to make sure she can do her afa work and all that so i'm
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very impressed by her level of dedication just not quitting i wish i had her energy i wish i
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had her youth that i can tap into it because she's wonderful katie who would you like to
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send a shout out to from the thorsoff district jessica lambert uh jessica lambert is amazing
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she's one of the warmest kindest friendliest people i have ever met uh she doesn't really
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care who you are she'll just walk right up to you and give you a hug and you feel like you've known
00:34:44.160
her forever um my husband used to do the runestone almost entirely by himself and when he said he
00:34:51.120
needed help jessica stepped up and she took over and made it a lot easier for us because my husband
00:34:58.160
for at least a week every month i wouldn't see him he'd be out in his office working for
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hours and hours. I have to sneeze. It's not happening. Sorry. False alarm. She has been
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extremely kind to me. She has been extremely kind to many of our folk, and she's become one of my
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very best friends. So I think Jessica Lambert's a rock star. Awesome. We have another question
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from tony king of cheese and this one is for githia sheila specifically what does it mean
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to be a frith weaver um obviously we all come with our own um our own perceptions our own opinions
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and sometimes there are issues that that come up because people are very much themselves they can't
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quite see the uh the viewpoint of someone else obviously to be a frith weaver is one who can
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bring together um people who have who are not of like mind and um try to do that but to me
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Frith weaving is always that really positive, for me anyway.
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I am building, I'm weaving frith when I'm out in my community doing food pantries.
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I also am president of another nonprofit in town, which uses up one whole weekend every month.
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Because I want everybody to know who we are, that we are not just to be trusted,
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but we're to be um valued and and um you know we're friends we're there we're community we're
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neighbors to you and that is coming out more and more i'm just i've had the very very christian in
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our town i can't tell you how many churches we have in this little tiny town of brownsville
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but so far it's all going really well so for me personally i don't have very much where um
00:37:15.620
i'm dealing with interpersonal relations relations i would certainly tell people
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you know let's obviously step back try to understand somebody else's viewpoint
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and find a common ground that would always be my thing i'm all
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so not confrontational and anybody will tell you that i avoid personally um things where um where
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i have to be really assertive i'm just not that's not my way you know i'm kind of mother hen i'm
00:37:42.820
grandma i'll give you the cookies and i that's my caring thing and i think if anything it's that
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kind of soothing nature of me that makes people relax around me and i try to make everybody feel
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valued when i meet them when i'm in their presence um i work at that i and i won't say it's work it's
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pleasure absolute pleasure but i think breath weaving for for us right now in this world a lot
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of it is building our reputation in the larger world and we do that by just being really good
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people living by our values we are our deeds and we show that for our good work
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thank you ma'am cody reynard asked to all the githias how has becoming a githia enriched your
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life and bring you closer to the asa anna you want to start us off on that one sure
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it's made me more aware of person of who i am um
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Um, it's made, it's made me understand that this is not just a solo project.
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Um, it's made me more aware of the folk that absolutely do need this and why it's necessary.
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I didn't used to be very social at all beforehand.
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um and i'm sorry what was the second part of the question how it's uh brought you closer to the asa
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it's brought me closer to the asa just just by knowing that
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you know these are these are our gods um each one of us should have that connection
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and especially for those of us that are gothar sometimes we need to show others how it's done
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so every day i'm you know striving to you know reach out to my gods every day just a little bit
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just so I can, you know, help others find what I have found.
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It's been a true honor to be able to do ceremonies with the folk. I had not really done very much
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that in the past we actually started the horn blessing obviously long before i became gidea
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we did that at mid-summer probably 2010 and um it just caught on and we realized that we women
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have this wonderful um magical presence that and and ability to to bless the horn and
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energize it with the feminine qualities that we have and that which has been passed on from
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our ancestors so i love doing that with our women to remind them how deep our our ancestral line is
00:41:17.800
and that those women are still with us and we have that and also of course preparing it for bloat
00:41:25.640
um but doing um you know weddings the i have a baby naming coming right up and just the thrill
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of that being able to do that to present that little being in front of the folk into the gods
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is an amazing experience and i take i take this all very seriously i actually did a memorial service
00:41:47.800
with a lady whose brother died unfortunately from an overdose she was very very close to him
00:41:55.200
but um and it took a while before we could actually do the service and i went with her to
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the mortuary and this was a man who had not been involved and it was it was a struggle it was a
00:42:08.260
experience and boy did i call on you know the the holy powers to be there to help guide him where
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needed to go and to be there for the family during that really tough time because she was so broken
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up by it and that was one of my first experiences um doing a funerary type ritual but um yeah being
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in bloat and you know leading and galder and carrying the horn and all those things i love
00:42:36.900
working with matt because the two of us work together at odin soft and he is often the one
00:42:42.180
doing the odin bloat and then often ask me to assist and also participate and um i love the
00:42:50.500
flow that we get between us we're communicating and we're bringing all this amazing energy and
00:42:57.780
blessings to the folks when we're doing ritual and those are just highlights for me it's just
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i had to remember what the question was i'm sorry um
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it was no i got it i was just collecting myself there there you go um
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Um, as an individual person practicing our faith, you learn about the gods in a very personal way.
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But when you become somebody who is spiritually responsible for helping our folk connect to the gods, you learn about the gods in an entirely new sort of way.
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um because you're looking at them not from your own personal perspective but from the perspective
00:44:00.780
of how do I help my folk know them um so for me being a givia has
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it's kind of the same answer for both parts of that question it's it's been very rewarding for
00:44:19.860
me um helping our folk to connect um but it's also been rewarding for me because by helping
00:44:30.720
our folk connect i have learned a lot about myself and a lot about the gods from a perspective
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that i wouldn't have had otherwise if that makes any sense it does it does so i guess
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for me, how it's enriched my life. I guess every part of it enriches my life to some extent,
00:44:58.580
whether it's counseling folk that need it, whether it's being that conduit at bloat between the folk
00:45:05.960
and the gods. One of my favorite things about bloat is when we accept the gifts of our people
00:45:14.740
and give the gifts of our people to the gods. And when I walk that horn around and I look that
00:45:22.140
person in the eyes and I can see their emotions and I can see what they're doing as they put
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their hand over that horn and they're putting their gifts into the horn, you can feel the horn
00:45:36.840
become heavy with the gifts of the folk. You can feel how much dedication, how much respect,
00:45:44.760
how much love, how much worship is put into that horn. And when you're receiving the gifts of the
00:45:51.820
gods to give to your folk, it's the same thing. You know, when you lift that bully or you lift
00:45:57.620
that horn and you can feel the gifts and the blessings of the gods enter that meat through
00:46:03.940
the horn and being able to give that to our folk you can literally feel the difference in the weight
00:46:11.780
you can feel a difference in you know the emotion and the power in the circle um between the two so
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I guess that's something one of my favorite parts about it is just being that conduit and being
00:46:26.880
privileged and honored to be the person holding that horn and feeling the weight of the gifts of
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both our folk and our gods. So I guess that's one thing I like about that.
00:46:40.140
Sarah asks, with Ashtrew being a male-dominated thing in the past, it's wonderful to see women
00:46:46.300
in important roles. Have any of you ever been called a feminist since you've taken on your
00:46:53.480
positions? No, I have not. Any of you been called a feminist? I've been disliked by feminists. I'm
00:47:02.500
not sure if that counts, but nope, I haven't been called one. I've been called a lot of other
00:47:08.440
things, but I have not been called a feminist. I have not been called a feminist. I think I
00:47:19.320
made a news reporter a little bit unhappy with me. This is right after the initial town hall
00:47:29.680
meeting for Baldershof, where we had a room full of people that weren't living in Murdoch
00:47:40.960
that were very mad at us for being in Murdoch. And after all that was over, I was approached
00:47:48.560
by somebody from the, what's it called? West Central Tribune or something like that. It's
00:47:54.720
their local the local wilmer uh newspaper but he was asking a lot of questions about
00:48:01.840
well how far can a woman actually get now so true and you know what's your actual role
00:48:09.560
and i just i answered honestly like we can we can be priestesses we can i didn't know this at the
00:48:18.860
time but we can you know sit as witten he didn't like any of my answers because
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i was not telling him what he wanted to be here um i've made feminists mad at me
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on the other hand though it's like well how can you be in such a male dominated
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male dominated religion it's like but it doesn't have to be male dominated
00:48:46.060
why don't you come on over and see what we're about and that never goes over well
00:48:50.680
they get mad about that too well no i've i've never been called a feminist unless
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unless all these people are saying this behind our backs
00:48:59.260
i don't think so i don't think so i know one thing that people really talk about with um
00:49:09.900
ask me a lot is, you know, don't you feel oppressed? Do I? No, I don't. I don't feel
00:49:19.020
oppressed. Um, you know, I'm, I'm a Witten member. I am a priestess of Boulder. I am a
00:49:32.260
I mean, just because I wear a dress to church does not mean that I'm oppressed.
00:49:42.740
So I know that they said, well, every time you see you, you're all dressed in dresses.
00:49:53.020
But just because I wear a dress to church does not mean I'm oppressed.
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Does anybody else have anything to add on that?
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I was going to say, it's really quite the opposite of being called feminist.
00:50:05.200
I've been told that I'm being kept down by the patriarchy, that I'm just, I don't know any better.
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Like, I've used this particular analogy before. I don't think it's an analogy, but whatever. People either assume that you're a super liberal feminist person or you're a 1950s housewife who, like, has no life outside of taking care of your husband.
00:50:43.940
and we're neither of those things we are just completely normal healthy individual women who
00:50:50.180
are living our lives uh to the i'd like to think to the very fullest and i don't know how
00:50:56.180
how just because there are more men in a faith means that it is a male faith i mean like i know
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we've talked about it there have always been more men oh it was a very male religion i get why
00:51:09.500
people get that impression but people refuse to acknowledge the fact that our ancestors were very
00:51:17.820
cognizant of the duality and the partnership between male and female and you can see it in
00:51:24.880
all the lore and you can see it in this just everything if you look at it you could pick and
00:51:31.360
choose as much as you like but if you're really looking you see that there's a partnership yes
00:51:37.700
there are different roles for our men than there are for our women it doesn't mean they're less
00:51:44.960
important so yeah no definitely not feminists yeah I'd like to have a comment here yeah for
00:51:54.720
years um there was this story that was being told by the left about um how we we don't like women
00:52:02.600
that's also true the way we practice it is misogynist it's all anti-women from the get-go
00:52:08.800
my husband even back in the 70s i think when he began um doing also true he had the saying and i
00:52:15.200
don't believe it was his own but the saying was a religion without a goddess is halfway to atheism
00:52:21.280
and it was always the goddesses once he really got into and understood the balance in the pantheon
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the male and female um and that is so true our problem is that we don't have women coming here
00:52:34.520
to find our amazing men in fact it came up today in a conversation that i had with uh our good
00:52:41.000
friends pilgrim and katie and ashley ashley and i were down talking with them and katie was talking
00:52:46.120
about well women always knew that if they wanted to find a man go up to alaska because the ratio
00:52:51.560
was like 20 women to 80 men and i think well that sounds like us a bit and what can we do about that
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we've always said we've got this uh the women just don't even hear about health secure the way the
00:53:02.600
men do men are much more social when it comes to all this kind of thing so any women who are
00:53:07.720
listening who are at all interested in finding communities that respect you and encourage you to
00:53:17.240
participate and bond with other women and find that made possible and have children and be
00:53:23.400
supported by a community that will love your children and provide homeschooling for them,
00:53:30.200
if that's what you wish. I mean, we really have developed so much for families. And so there's
00:53:35.480
much more for women now than ever before. And women should not just stand along the sidelines
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anymore please come forth and join on your own because i think you're going to be amazed with
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what's waiting for you but um we've always had a place for women it's just there's never been very
00:53:53.640
many women we've had some great women in the past i mean i can say patricia hall and i know that katie
00:53:58.680
knows exactly who i'm talking about very very amazing powerful woman and um wonderful leader
00:54:05.960
for us women and we've had women like that in the past and we we've always acknowledged our women
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women have always been respected that's the one thing you're never going to find at least through
00:54:18.780
leadership and who knows about members way off wherever but we truly respect all people in our
00:54:25.920
church women are always respected treated well and um that's just that's the way we do it that
00:54:34.100
those are our values they're the best values that we could possibly have and we always show it when
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together and that's what our coach does can i just add we're lucky that none of our children
00:54:45.540
in the future will have the same problems because we have so many children right now
00:54:50.180
there are so many little boys and so many little girls we just had two twins uh two boy twins two
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boy twin i guess that's what twins means it means two but we just had two little boys and a little
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girl in my kindred alone born within a month and a half of each other uh i know that our our under
00:55:07.620
ash and oak kindred in ohio has like three two babies were just born and another one's on the
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way three babies i'm sorry three babies were just born and another one's on the way like
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and they're all girls so we got a lot of little girls being born into the afa right now and uh
00:55:24.520
none of them are going to have the same problem as trying to find a dude
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or those little boys aren't going to have as many we're probably going to have it's probably a role
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reversal the girls are going to have a hard time finding the good ostrich boys at this rate
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speaking about awesome women i'm gonna plug somebody else so i want to give a shout out to
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folk builder ashley mcstocker folk builder ashley mcstocker is our mick rock star and what i mean
00:55:57.960
by that is ashley has done so much for boulder soft and for the folk at boulder soft she
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runs our food pantry. She's created really amazing relationships with the people that donate to us.
00:56:15.760
We hand out bags and bags of food and pounds and pounds of choice cut meats. And she, you know,
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headed up the school supply drive that they did where they were handing out backpacks
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make sure that everything runs the way it's supposed to run.
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Anna do you got somebody that you want to shout out to
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um yes our new apprentice folk builder or one of our apprentice folk builders
00:57:12.680
um Tracy Adler she has absolutely hit the ground running um
00:57:19.000
like right around the time that Njortsov happened you know she started she was coming to these
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events and she has absolutely taken this by the horns she does moots at least once a month if not
00:57:32.720
twice um she has been you know she's great at the counseling aspect of dealing with their folks she
00:57:42.320
is you know she she's never too busy for a phone call um she's just put herself out there i know
00:57:49.520
she has a very busy job schedule as well. And she's just been a great example of female leadership.
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Sheila. Oh, well, this is a good time to talk about Crystal Podbreger, who has been a
00:58:14.360
no-spoke builder for a few years now. She is the person who keeps us well-fed, plans
00:58:22.260
up all of our meals, and, you know, pays attention to budget and all these things, but she makes
00:58:27.920
sure that everybody gets what they need. And she often stresses ethnic issues, so she will
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have certain meals that are notable for paprika, for one thing. She loves paprika, so we get
00:58:40.900
lot of paprika at midsummer we did um yeah she's very very dedicated to doing that um
00:58:48.980
she also was the person who really helped spearhead the uh the uh painting of of odin's off this
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summer um we happen to have a young fellow who's a painting contractor and he saw the condition yes
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it had been painted but not primed and prepared last time it was painted and he said we've got
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to we've got to fix that so he got right in there and with the help of several other afa members
00:59:12.980
and and crystal her husband victor um spent numerous weekends up at um odenshoff and through
00:59:21.220
may and june before mid-summer to get the whole the whole thing totally scraped boards replaced
00:59:28.580
things called amazing amount of work and as crystal said she went through weeks and weeks and weeks
00:59:35.060
driving to odin's off and not having any any time off so she's taken some very necessary time off
00:59:40.980
the last couple months since midsummer and she's going to be back on saturday giving us some
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wonderful hearty i forget what it is we're doing like shepherd's pie and that's going to be the
00:59:52.740
main course which can be perfect for the winter night we look forward to that awesome her cooking
00:59:59.460
is delicious if you have not had her cooking please go to odin's hot because it's amazing
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she's amazing katie you want to give a shout out to somebody yes so there is a woman in the afa who
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i don't think that her official title is good enough uh she behind the scenes does
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more work than most people even begin to realize um she is our folk services person mandy flavel
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mrs alshar godi she mandy is amazing and mandy works her butt off and she never gets
01:00:45.780
the praise she deserves for all of the work she does because she's not in the front and center
01:00:50.980
of things she's not attached to you know titles for this or that she runs the baby blanket program
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for the uh for the new babies in the afa which i think is amazing to have a a a blanket that is
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handmade by somebody in the folk uh for your new baby it's like a i've got two children i have two
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afa blankets and those blankets are as far as i'm concerned they're heirlooms those are blankets that
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kids will have forever and hopefully will pass on to their children one day because they're just
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kind of awesome but also there's there's a certain type of energy in those blankets and
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mandy's the reason why we have that program uh when you see um family and families in need who
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uh are on rough times and you see them advertised uh please help these folk mandy's the one who
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make sure that all that information gets out there and that
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aside from being a really kind of spectacular human being
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as awesome as she is because I don't think it happens enough.
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all right michelle has a question for you sheila will you and steve be at winter nights this year
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this weekend no no saturday is his birthday for one thing he had his 55th high school reunion
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that was also this weekend and he found out about it when we were in texas last month at the funeral
01:02:33.900
of his brother um and a lady came up and said steve i haven't seen you since high school you're
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going to come out for the 50th fifth reunion and he was really hoping to but i had to say no steve
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we're going to be a winter night that wasn't soft that's what we're doing this year we often when
01:02:51.980
it was in pennsylvania you know we would go out there and then we'd shift our winter nights to a
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week later but i have to say that trying to travel do air travel the last two years has been
01:03:05.340
frustrating and frightening and and everything else you know at times you just don't know what's
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going to happen and so we're kind of doing less than we did before but um i know we're going to
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be um out to all the hoffs hopefully in the next year we'll make it out to everyone and i we always
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look forward to meeting people there it's going to be a fantastic winter night i'm sure um wish
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i could see ohio and maybe wilson there but anyway no we're going to be doing all right again our big
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winter nights out at odenshoff and for me it's i prefer it over yule yule is sometimes everybody's
01:03:40.220
favorite but to me that's pandemonium when you do you know 80 people in that one room for one
01:03:44.940
day and you're giving presents out to kids and they're making gingerbread cottages with frosting
01:03:49.980
and candy no thank you um it's hard to relax with that one boy i love winter nights we're gonna have
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a wonderful one it's gonna be beautiful weather 85 in the day and 55 at night so we're gonna steve
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and i are camping actually at a winter night but thank you for asking we will try to make it out
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to winter nights next year there is an event that you're gonna be out here shortly though sheila
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right right yeah so that one that was a good lead-in and you're gonna be there too i found
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that i will be there yeah yeah well a lot of people know that my husband steve um started
01:04:26.860
his career in the military he did rotc in college and really wanted to have an a career in the army
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didn't work out that way he got frustrated after the first four years of it but he did go back in
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for the national guard for quite a long time but um because of that i mean he he still has
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so much respect for the soldier you know that's really what it's about as brandy would know too
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she's the former military and it's a very big honor because um um nathan erlinson and melissa
01:05:00.860
mills i believe are the two who have been organizing this particular event feast van harrier it is it
01:05:07.180
It is honoring the warriors that go to Valhall with Odin, the unharrier, the chosen.
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And you could say, well, they're chosen by Freya and they're chosen by Odin.
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And the idea is that we honor the men who die in battle.
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And it's a very, very powerful time of year, particularly for men.
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And I've been asked to actually do a Freya Blitz.
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We're going out, I think, September 9th and coming home the 13th.
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And it's going to be down at Hevener Rune Stone away at the south end of Oklahoma.
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Very kind of a magical little glade where the Rune Stone is.
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Really interesting limestone walls like you guys get in the Midwest and all that.
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And I think it's going to be very, very wonderful.
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My husband Steve is going to do an ode and load.
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and there's going to be a really cool Einherjer bloat that's going to be actually done on a river
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or some water, a waterway right there. So even though, you know, you think male, there's going
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to be a lot of wonderful women there and we're going to make sure that the women have plenty
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of time to be by ourselves and share our experiences, get to know each other from
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wherever we come from, but do try to come to that one. And I'm not sure quite how people
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register. Do you know, Mandy, how that's done? Yes, we've got a link down there on the bottom.
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If you go to the runestone.org store under the events, you're going to find the Feast of the
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Einherjar. You'll be able to get your tickets there. And if you guys have any questions,
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reach out to Folk Builder Melissa Mills and Folk Builder Nathan Erlinson or Folk Builder
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Ashley McStalker, and then get you all the information. And it is also not too late to go
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to winter nights so make sure if you haven't already and you want to go down to runestone.org
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at the store hit the events and register for winter nights it's going to be a beautiful event
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winter nights 11 in ohio so if you have any questions feel free to reach out to get the
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katie erickson and i'm sure she will try to answer them to the best of her ability while she is
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frantically probably trying to tie the last few pieces of this event together so reach out to her
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with any questions also um there's um who else uh you could get a hold of witten clippard erickson
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i'm sure if katie's busy or possibly who else katie who else could they contact if you and
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clipper uh christine dumas timmy dumas just lambert pretty much all of the amazing folk
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builders we have in ohio or in pennsylvania jess keller who i'm going to steal brandy's thunder
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and i'm going to um give jess keller a shout out we had a good conversation the other day
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and jess keller is pretty amazing she holds so many different moots all the time for our folk
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and she doesn't get discouraged when people don't come because we have moots that not everybody
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makes it too she just keeps throwing them out there and uh she has a great deal of knowledge
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and dedication and she's pretty cool we like jess keller awesome well i'm gonna i'm gonna see
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your jessica keller and i'm gonna raise you a jessie schaefer i'm gonna talk about her for that
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so jessie schaefer is the lady macgyver of bouldershoff she constantly comes prepared
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with band-aid snacks and the occasional chainsaw when you need to cut down a tree she is absolutely
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amazing i cannot say enough good things about her she is an amazing friend she's an amazing woman
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she's an amazing mother and i absolutely adore her i have never seen anyone work as hard as
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that woman so i'm gonna give a shout out to jesse schaefer how about you sheila are you
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going to raise the ante here who you got oh yeah um this last week i had the pleasure of uh going
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down to yuba city which is the county seat of yuba county where brown phil is and where
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and that is because sierra chapman one of our younger folk builders a young mother with a little
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feisty wonderful little two-year-old that keeps her very very busy and holding down a full-time
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job she does folk building best she can you know with the time she has and one thing she took on
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was the project of an adopt a highway i know they've been very successful in wisconsin well
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she saw it through did all the applications made all the phone calls and i went in there with her
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and here she had these two highway department guys um from the state that she was talking with
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and she just handled it beautifully she knew every question to ask i had all the paperwork all planned
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out knew where she was going to take all the equipment and we had the pleasure of going out
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and seeing the two signs that span the that at either end of our like a four mile stretch on
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highway 20 if anybody knows this part of california um the uber river runs through it so we have a
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huge bridge that spans the yuba river it's down in the kind of gravel bar areas so it goes from
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um a place called stacy ann lane um over over on uh yuba county crosses over into nevada county
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and ends at timbuktu and sure enough there's really a timbuktu in california it was an old
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gold rush town it has about three houses and uh so we're going to go out in the nice thing in
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california guys we if we do this and we do it once a month collect the bags and do it safely they're
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really concerned about that that we understand our safety rules we will get 250 dollars for our
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clock you know talk about some money to be very well used at odin's office so i want to thank um
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sierra for that because it was not my idea i never would have come up with it but she did
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and she needs to be commended for seeing that through to the end and it's gonna be fun going
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out and doing those and having lunch and you know being doers again like we all want to do
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and build our reputation yes what about you miss anna you got anybody left to shout out
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to over there in york's half district i think you're muted though
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okay we have a brand new folk builder we have fawn she has she has been all over the place the last
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few weeks i'm actually not sure where she is right now she's she's been driving to i think texas i
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know she's been driving to florida um oklahoma just to meet up with folk just to say hi just
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to have that full time. So I'm so excited to work with her. And I'm so excited to see what she is,
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you know, going to, like what she's going to do in the next few months and years.
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She has a lot of potential, and I just cannot wait. And I'm so excited.
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Awesome. Welcome to the team there, Fawn. We have a 10 Canadian dollar, I believe it is,
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donation from Lawrence Forbes and says, just popping in to say good evening, ladies. I'm
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enjoying the stream thanks for all you do for our folk and bless your hearts all right well thank
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you very much we appreciate that if any of you do want to make a donation or you do just want to
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get your question to the top of the line because you know the four of us are going to run down as
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many rabbit holes as possible tonight before we get to all the questions i promise we'll try to
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get to them all but if you want to get your question up at the top head over to entropy
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and you can give us a donation there. Everything is appreciated. We thank you very much.
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All right. And back to our questions here. Sarah asks, can each of you talk about your
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relationship with the Desir? Would you say that as women, we take our place among them when we die?
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Sheila, do you want to start us off with that? Oh, I would definitely say we do. I look forward
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to that i i'm so glad that we are really comfortable with the idea of an afterlife
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so many people are afraid of dying afraid that there's nothing on the other side and i have no
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doubt that i hope to meet my dc on the other side and be with my ancestors i actually had
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a nephew who passed away it was really it was very very tragic he was shot in a hunting accident at
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age 12 and i had to tell my my sister who was his grandmother you know i really said for me
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and this is me because you know i got my personal gnosis thing i'm kind of a touchy-feely kind of
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a person but i just felt that when he passed over that there was no doubt that he was going to be
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greeted by his ancestors that a grandmother was there with a plate of cookies for him
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and i felt good with that and i think it helped my sister because i know we continue on and um
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there's our soul those soul components keep going and they weave back through our family lines and
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they come back and they touch us in those amazing ways i actually have i have some really incredible
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stories but at one point i had been to ireland it was 1993 i made this trip on my own to kind of
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dig deep into my roots and find my ancestors what i did find was that it was it certainly was not
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the christian the catholic churches where i found things i couldn't find the records but i went to
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the stone circles and i went to the wells and i had wonderful experiences there i came home
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and i received a gift i received a gift as i was writing about my my grandmother my great grandmother
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um and uh i was describing how at christmas time when i was a little girl growing up in the 1950s
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you know a dollar would buy you a whole bag of goodies for your relatives and in my case it was
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always red nail polish and red lipstick for my grandmother and my godmother and for my great
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grandmother it was always a hairnet a hairnet could be with sequins or glitter on it whatever
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whatever was pretty you know you'd buy that if you were a seven-year-old and that's what i did
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for my grandmother every year she got a hairnet well as i had done this trip to ireland and digging
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very very i mean just touching on so many levels my own personal past there and i was writing these
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stories about going to that house and being there at holiday time and the damask and the fancy
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glasses and all these things i went out and saw something on my dryer out on my porch and went
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back and forth a few times it was like august it was warm and i was putting laundry on the line
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came back i finally picked up this envelope and i looked at it and i didn't recognize it
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was shiny was your typical uh thin shiny uh waxy kind of brown envelope like you might have a
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greeting card in and um i opened it up and actually on the outside it said alberts and it said marine
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if you know marine county california i said kenfield san and selma samerthel and i thought
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whoa this is really strange and i opened it up and inside was a beautiful like lithograph beautiful
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tinted envelope with a lady with waft hair brown hair and bright blue eyes just the type of thing
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that you would have seen in like the 1930s 1920s 1930s that kind of wavy hair you know
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and it said real human hairnet across it and the thing is this had never been open it was clear
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it was absolutely brand new and on the back it had a little sticker and it said i think it said 10
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cents or 19 cents and i opened it up very very carefully because it was this color it was a
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color picture on the front of this lady opened it up and took out this tissue paper and sure enough
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i unwrapped it and in it was a hairnet and it was the color of a light brown and i'm sure that was
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the color of my great grandmother's when she was young and that was a gift that came to me and i've
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not had many things but i believe the miracles i know that as a christian i talked with my husband
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about this last week i always thought that saints were the only ones that have miracles no that was
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a miracle and it happened to me i need to find it someplace here in my home i used to when i was a
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teacher i picked that to school and shared that actually with whoa guys you don't know what what
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it's all about i mean none of us do there are a lot of mysteries out there but it was a true gift
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nobody had ever seen it was actually that albert's was a store that was around before i was even
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born my sister said you remember albert oh no you don't it became macy's when you were a little girl
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i mean this was really old it was absolutely pristine and uh over time over the next 10 years
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and i'd take it out and wrap it and show people it just became old you know as i was as i was
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folding it you could see it was starting to discolor and fray and all this and i can't wait
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to find it i will share it with you folks i wrote in the room stone so i did not write many articles
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in the early rainstones i wrote about uller was one of mine and i wrote an article called the hair
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net um and spelled h-e-i-r because it was you know given to me as an heir to my my great grandmother
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so i love it she was there with me and i realized that she's a a lady i have not recognized as much
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as i should i mean to me here we go what is important assembles and and honoring those who
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have passed and um you know we all kind of dig through our line of of relatives who to remember
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what we learned but this lady was definitely reached out to me and i appreciate that
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so that's my story and yes the ds are very important and this is a great time of year
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i'm going to give a plug for winter nights at odin socks um it's not too late to make your
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plans to come starts friday night um ashley is doing dinner and we're going to do pocas
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and she wants to do octoberfest dancing so so that's what is the focus she says we're
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wear your dirndl and your lederhosen and we start with that and then saturday and my husband steve
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is going to end with uh odin lot at about 8 30 that night for those who've not seen steve doing
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node and bloat is quite different from matt's is very very powerful of course they both do it they're
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very very different techniques to use and the next day is talks and as i said the baby naming
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and lots of kids things and again octoberfest games that ashley is coming up with some really
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fun traditional type thing and then feasting and uh evening desir bloat with the song that i learned
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from katie which we love and we're going to have the women play a very very key role in this whole
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thing as the men enter the circle it's my favorite time of year surely and uh and with the summer and
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the next day we're doing a community fair for the yeah for brownsville we call it um the harvest
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fest and all the people who come to the food pantry on saturday are going to be invited back
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to come and partake of quote halloween stuff have a free lunch no hot dogs and chips and a cupcake
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and enjoy the uh the uh hospitality of odin's hawk and we who are seeing a thing so very evil
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well of course they're not they know that we have a lot of support in our community
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so um yeah it's a very full weekend and we want people to come out for it because
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you couldn't ask for better weather this is this is perfect so yeah write to ashley write to me
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and let us know you're coming because crystal's buying the food for saturday you need to know
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get her head down in fact talk about kids right now we have 34 people 34 adults coming
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to winter night we have 25 children and a lot our little tiny tots so just let you know what's
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happening out here in california with our growing families
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that's awesome sheila thank you your kids are about to outnumber those adults here pretty quick
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katie how about how about you can you talk about your relationship with the desire
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so contrary to a lot of what i've said since i've been on here
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when i before i found the afa and before i became the gidea i didn't really have that strong of a
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connection to the female aspect of things um i was drawn to freya at the time because of her
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connection to magic and to uh in some in some ways war but i not really the whole let's go
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stabby stabby um as it is the this the woman who is strong and can stand up for herself because i
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was always a very very shy very shy person so you know a strong confident woman appealed to me and
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i didn't really have that in my life a lot so i was drawn to freya for that but despite being drawn
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to Freya, I had very little connection to the female aspect of things. Being shy and lacking
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confidence, it's hard to connect to something when you feel disconnected from it, which I guess
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by definition, but when I became a Gidea, or I should say when I became a Gidea student,
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i had the very great luck and honor of being mentored by uh patricia hall patricia hall is
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a extremely wonderful extremely powerful saver practicer and just an all-around awesome human
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being and she was the woman who was in charge of the desirble at our national winter nights
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before i came around and i became her student and like within three months i was told i'm doing
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I was told in like mid-August that in mid-October I was holding a ritual for the Desir for
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our one of at the time biggest national events that we had. Midsummer in California was the
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only one that was bigger and things have changed a lot since then but uh I kind of got a crash
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course in in the desir um i had to i had to learn and connect and figure out what that meant to be
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before i could figure out how to make that connection for our folk and uh ever since the
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desir has had a very very special place in my heart uh winter nights the desire bloat that's
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like my baby because that's how i got started if it wasn't for patricia hall and that desire bloat
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i don't know how long it would have taken me to find that connection to the female aspect of
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our faith uh not as i like to think as genuinely deeply as i have now i mean i'd have gotten there
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probably but um our desire are our ancient mothers i always say ancient mothers but something you have
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to understand is that our desir are all of the females that are in our line way way back to the
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beginning of time if you had a however many times removed aunt who didn't have children she's still
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a member of her this year because she's a female in your family who helped shape the world that
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you live in right now in your family life maybe she was your however many removed grandmother or
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grandfather's best friend or their their caretaker you don't know who that woman was or how she was
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connected to you and so it's all of the women all of those women who who share in your lineage who
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have shaped the families for generations and generations that lead to you all of those women
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are important and we're never going to remember half of their names we're never we're lucky if
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we know like five or six generations back for most of us i know i don't know that many generations
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back in my family um but it doesn't mean you can't be connected to them you're to see are
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literally in your blood they're with you all the time um and this is something i say often
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to our women in particular but it applies across the board when when you need help with something
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our gods are there but our desir are closer um and they're certainly more invested in our lives
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because the gods are looking at a much bigger picture and our desir and our alphar too who
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are our male ancestors but specifically our desir they are invested in us they lived so that we could
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live they live on in us they care they want us to succeed they want us to do great things they want
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us to be proud strong european people because that's what we need to be in order to make sure
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that our children have a future and that's what it's all about so you can't have the past without
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the future you can't have the future without the past rgc are extremely extremely important so are
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our alfar but they were not specific to this question um and i absolutely do believe uh
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Sheila brought it up when she was talking earlier.
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One of the things I say to people who are dealing with loss and grief is you try to take comfort in knowing that the person who has passed away isn't going into nothingness.
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they're not going to be alone somewhere lonely they're going into a hall full of
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women men and women alfar dsir all of this family for till the beginning of time they're here
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waiting for you with their open arms and i like to think of the women being in the front of the line
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because our women are by nature more nurturing so of course they're standing there with their
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arms wide open ready to give that person a huge huge huge hug and to welcome them home to their
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hall um and when we die we will become one of those women in that hall waiting for our our
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descendants to join us hopefully after very long and fulfilling lives that's what i got
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you are muted miss brandy oh thank you anna can you tell us about your relationship with the
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this year yes um i my family um it's my family has usually been very female-led and by that i mean
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as far as you know the protection and the going out and getting food and shelter that's that's
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been the men's job but as far as keeping the culture alive you know keeping traditions alive
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that's always been the role of the women in my family um
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so i've been very fortunate to have that connection to my mother and to my grandmother and you know
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through them i have you know it's partially through them kind of inadvertently because
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they're both very staunch lutherans but it's through them through learning about
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my grandmother in particular um and you can call this upg or whatever you'd like to call it but
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she does still she does still visit she's been gone since 2014 but she will still come and hang
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around when i lived in wilmer minnesota she would i could tell that she had been in that apartment
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she brought this um apple cinnamon smell with her and it's the smell of like those old apple
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cinnamon spice candles i don't think they make them anymore but it definitely was a smell that
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permeated the apartment at times um same with this place down in florida you know she is still there
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so your your desir your female ancestors those are definitely if you don't know who to talk to
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when you first get on this path i mean you can always talk to the gods but i would really
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recommend that you start to make those connections with your desire with you know the female ancestors
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um it's like katie said they are definitely the ones that have a vested interest in you
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just like your grandmother did you know when she was still alive um
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they're the ones that want to know how you are and if you ate today
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and they're also the ones that if they are if they are still alive that you can start to ask
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those questions like you know who is who are we like what is who are the people in our family
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like what did we do because and i regret not doing this but your you know your living ancestors right
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now they have so much to tell you and i don't think that we ask them enough questions um like
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why do we have this tradition or you know what did we used to do for this start asking and start
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writing it down um years ago and i'm gonna go off on a little bit of a tangent um
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when we always had christmas at my grandmother's house
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there would be this straw decoration in the middle of the table and i had no idea what it was
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it was always just the thing that was there so years later um when i was doing bloats
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up in bloomington with um jason gallagher and the northern blood kindred
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i didn't i had no idea why this was always on my grandmother's table
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where do you draw your inspiration from for your DC or blow Katie?
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a lot of my inspiration really is as cheesy as it
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just comes to me. So if you've never been to one of Matt's Oden bloats, you are missing out in
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many, many ways. Matt does the most amazing Oden bloat. And before you think, where the heck is
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this coming from? I can't do a Matt bloat. Nobody can do an Al-Shiar Godhi bloat the way the Al-Shiar
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Godhe does it we can try but we just we can't because Matt just has his own way
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of doing it and we try to emulate it sometimes because holy cow that was the
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most amazing book I've ever been to how do I do it like that and the answer I
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always have for our Godhe students is you can't you have to find your own way
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of doing book you have to find the way that works for you in the way that you
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connect the gods the best and the way you help others connect to the gods the
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best because that's our main job is as Golar is to to create that bridge
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between the gods and our folk during during bloat and so the best I can say
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really is that the way I do bloat I believe in creating an environment in
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which you're invoking some sort of feeling in people. And that is done by connecting to our
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gods and helping our folk connect to our gods. But I like to use a lot of our senses to do that.
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I like to use visuals. I like to use smells, lighting incense or having a lot of flowers.
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I like to do it with auditory sounds. So I include a lot of song and things like that.
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i like to have like i said i said already the visuals a lot of times i ask um a woman or two
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or four however many to help me do bloat for two reasons one because for the people who are not
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participating they see a representation of her desire and that woman who is acting as the desire
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is the embodiment of them and being able to see that trigger something in people's brains and
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in their in their minds which helps to connect to the holy um i lost my train of thought um
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yeah so my a lot of my inspiration comes just uh like when i when we were doing ritual at
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netimus uh which is the place we used to do um i'm sorry one of somebody downstairs turned the
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music on really really loud so if you can hear it i apologize i my husband has not put our children
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to sleep yet so it's been noisy this whole time anyway i knew that camp like the back of my hand
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i had been going there for well over 10 15 years um not just with the afa but through other groups
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as well. I knew it really well. So I didn't need to be there in order to find inspiration. I could
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sit and I could close my eyes and I could think about the camp and I could think about the people
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and I could think about what I was going to be there. And it's like lightning striking. I just
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get the idea. And I was actually having kind of a mental block about doing ritual at our new place
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because I've never been there. I don't know what it looks like. I don't know what the energy in the
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place feels like i don't know anything about it and it's really hard for me because i i need the
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visual as much as i like to give the visual as a way to stimulate things and uh i was very lucky
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that my husband and i got to go down there and visit the the location we're having winter nights
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a couple weeks weekends ago um and like literally i just um my husband was talking to uh mr cold
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distill whose property it is we're having our event and well not his property but um
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through him we found the property and I just kind of wandered off on my own and all of a sudden I
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had an aha moment and it was like okay this is what I'm going to do for ritual now so I this
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was a really long tangent to just say it just kind of happens I don't really have a better answer
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than that except for apparently i did because i talked for like five minutes so yeah okay if i
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could just step in and just add something that ties in with katie and her ritual and the idea
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of how we connect with the deezer she did a song and someone i'm going to keep doing because it's
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the one i just resonates with me so well and it goes we are the watchers we are your protectors
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we are your mothers our voices call you home and we're gonna do that i'm getting goosebumps just
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singing it because that is that's the decent they're protecting us they're watching over us
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and her words were so perfect when she put that together and uh we're gonna have all of our women
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the idea of women veiling themselves you know to go behind the veil and be that to represent
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that who is on the other side you know i really want to do that katie just have amazing you know
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you could say theatrical but it's not everything has a reason behind it and the symbolism is very
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powerful thank you and also thank you because i had forgotten about that song that was the first
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one i wrote and there's been like two or three ones after that so i forgot about that one and
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i'm glad you reminded me because i like that one you know i forgot about it
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sarah asks githya anna could you speak on your experience with the armen and runes
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the history of them and what attracted you to them sure um i i got familiar with the armen and runes
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during my gothark hey during my gothark training um when i was asked to write the one of the
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little monthly blurbs about guido von list and this man had at a very young age decided to
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dedicate his life to his folk he wrote poetry he wrote little essays he did he did everything that
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think that he could to bring the gods back to his people because at that time there wasn't really a
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lot going on there was like some small some small fringe groups but he what he did with his you know
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more mainstream work was to you know bring these gods back to the people of europe and
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And, and I mean, that alone is fantastic. But then, you know, years down the road while he
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was recovering from cataract surgery, which even in this day and age, by the way, is not a fun
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surgery to deal with. If you can, if you want to go ahead and YouTube what a cataract surgery
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involves um if you're not squeamish but it's still it's kind of a it's not fun so i can only imagine
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what it was like about a hundred years ago so while his eyes were bandaged up because
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again it's not a particularly polite surgery um you're gonna have some recovery time even now
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but back then he was blind for just under a year so while he was blind these runes
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and what drew me to them was they hadn't really been getting a lot of play they hadn't been
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getting a lot of use which and they were you know kind of the newer they're the newer rune row um
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i felt much more confident with these um they're they're newer yes they maybe don't have the
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history that the other rune rows do have but i felt so much more connected to these since they're
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so much more closer in time you know than the rest of them and you know the more i read and
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more the more i meditated on them they every one of them seems to have the
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underneath all the other concepts and meanings this idea of moving forward
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Which is what I would love to see our people do more of is like we need to keep moving forward.
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We need to keep growing. We need to keep. We need to keep our heads up and not focused in some distant past.
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Yeah. And for those of you that don't follow Githia Anna Plourd on social media, you need to.
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She does amazing rune pulls on a regular basis. And we keep teasing her that we're either going
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to make a 365 desk calendar of all of her rune pulls because they're ridiculously inspirational.
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for each of you, which god or goddess do you feel
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I feel connected to all of them, but starting out, I've always been very, very
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drawn to Saga. Saga has always been special in my heart. I have always tried to come up with
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super special gifts, something different for her, something I think that she would enjoy.
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She's always been a lot to me. She's always been the epitome of what I wanted to be as a woman.
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I wanted to be the person you could trust with your stories and your secrets.
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I wanted to be the person that remembered everything so no one would ever be forgotten.
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But since working on Baldershof, being ordained as the Gythea over at Baldershof,
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my relationship with Balder and Nana has grown exponentially.
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When you walk into that hof, you can literally feel the presence of Balder.
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They can tell you it's literally a presence as soon as you walk into that sanctuary.
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But earlier in my path, I was very devoted to Saga.
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I think early on in my path, I was very, very connected to Freya.
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um just as you know a lot of a lot of my early years were done alone and either literally being
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alone or kind of feeling alone so i felt like i was you know kind of this woman still searching
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for something but you know still standing upright you know still being her own person
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but there was always that kind of searching there um later on i have found myself working a lot with
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air um part of that is you know seeing all the folk you know that are you know reaching out
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for some sort of healing um when i was like when i was a kid in the lutheran church we would have
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this thing every sunday called like the prayer chain or the prayer circle where they're the
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reverend the pastor would list off a whole bunch of names of people that were going through something
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medical or physical or spirit something like that um i found that with within the afa we have
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something very similar and i think that's amazing because our people should be able to reach out
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you know reach out to not only their priests and priestesses but to their gods for that healing
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um it's also um has a lot to do with my profession um i have kind of a little miniature
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air it's not quite an altar but it's something i bring to work with me
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it's just you know some some herbs some rocks I keep it in a little wooden box in my car
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that just kind of travels with me as I go you know to work
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and then I've also I've also tried to make it a point to do at least once or twice a month
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an air ritual and I know some of you have seen the photos of it where I just take an apple
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and then for everybody i know that is in need of healing i will push a little clove bud into the
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apple and then afterwards i'll put the apple outside or to the lake nearby but that's that's
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um so i know i mentioned it earlier when i was younger when i was first finding
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also true it was freya um i think freya is sort of the goddess that a lot of young women and young
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young women choose to identify with um she's young she represents everything that women
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want to be in a lot of ways she's desirable to men she's strong and independent um and by
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independent i don't mean like i can do it all by myself independent i just mean she can take
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care of herself and uh we grew up in a society where our women are expected to take care of
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themselves but ridiculed for it at the same time uh but uh but anyway she's you know and she's
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accessible it's easy to find information about Freya um but I can say honestly that
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i don't have a specific god or goddess that i feel more connected to than any other
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um it it it varies greatly depending on where i am in my life or what's going on in my life
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um as as dumb as this probably is going to say when my cat died i found freya and that was my
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first introduction to the norse gods as a whole because before that i i was kind of eclectic i
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guess um but it was my first cat and i loved my cat and he died rather unexpectedly and somehow
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or another i found comfort in freya because she has cats and for whatever reason you find your
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god or goddess of choice it doesn't matter the point is you found them right so uh she she was
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good for me she she she held she helped me through things at that time as a a mother of two young
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children and when I was pregnant obviously Frigga became much more relevant in my life because she
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is the mother she is the goddess of pregnancy and children and hearth and home and I also I mean
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we're getting ready in a little while to start with the process of trying to find ourselves a
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Frereshoff and in all likelihood it's going to be very close to where I am and so I find myself
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and I've always had a fondness for Freres but now I find myself looking into Freres and
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and thinking about him and getting to know him a lot better because
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there's this possibility that he's going to be a much bigger aspect in my life moving forward.
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um I've I've felt very close to air on occasion um Miss Patricia Hall before she sort of quietly
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stepped out because she had her her own thing she needed to take care of and she's you know
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she's an elderly woman and she had been doing her job for a very long time and was ready for a break
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but before she did she ran what is now airs blessings she called it something a little bit
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different those like blessings of air I think but uh um she sort of that sort of fell into my lap
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when she needed her space and so the whole concept of airs blessings is if you have something that
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you need help with um mental emotional physical trauma or just just you need a an energy pick me
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up because you're having a hard time you could you could send us a message at heirs blessings
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at runestone.org or you can reach out to one of our giddies or to most of our folk builders and
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say hey i would really like some help and the ladies who are in the heirs blessings group will
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get your name and they'll be told that you would like some energy and most of them all of them
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we'll do a small ritual to send you energy. And, uh, um, so because I kind of got put in charge of
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that in a way, uh, air became very important to me. And I started to learn more about her and
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connect with her in a lot of ways. Um, yeah, it's what's going on in your life. Where are you in
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your life it's that's you find ways to connect your gods through the life that you're living
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in the circumstances that are happening and i think it's healthy very very healthy to have that
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sort of mindset um limiting limiting yourself to a single god or goddesses is um
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you're doing yourself a disservice because it's it's it's preventing you from building a better
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relationship with all of our with all of our our acr so thank you ma'am miss sheila
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um probably a lot of you know that my husband steve is very much an odin's man um
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from the earliest days until probably an hour ago whatever he's doing downstairs is
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probably some kind of connection with Odin so it was probably no mystery that I would
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associate myself with Frigga but it also has been my role in the AFA has been to plan the events
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to welcome people to make sure they have what they need to communicate I've always been back in
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the old days when Steve and I were the head of the AFA up until 2016 you know I did most of the
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communication and i love doing that it's just the kind of person i am so that felt very very natural
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always has i've almost at times uh in more recent years kind of stepped out of that and i'll tell
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you a couple of circumstances um when we were doing secret bloat we did secret bloat in um august
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was it august 9th july um and that was um bloke for victory with with odin and i decided that
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if at all possible it's also nice to do a uh a bloat to a goddess so um i we actually have a
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phrase circle that had never been used really ritually before that we have a goddess pole
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for freya and it is far away from our regular ritual area so even with a very hot day and late
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morning it was blazing hot we went out there and did bloat to freya and the reason i did it was
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because of freya not in her typical um voluptuous powerful all that you know all those wonderful
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things that we know of fertility and those things but it was more of that we are at a time when we
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need to use our wits we need to use our intelligence and all these things to help us through these very
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challenging times and secret bloke being for victory you know how which goddess can really
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push us towards victory and i thought well freya is the goddess in her in that very strong nature
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of freya as um a woman who keeps up with the gods who has the mysteries who who shares information
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with odin learns and teaches you know both of them together and that kind of thing and so we
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actually did bloat to fran and i think was really powerful when we did that i heard some good things
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afterwards um also um thorgrin um and last last year um thorgan is one of our older um godar um
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he's been a godi for a long time and he's suddenly retired but he still comes out to
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and he does all of our free bloats because he's a phrase man that last last summer i know we did
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a full bloat during the summertime and of course along with that was teeth and i i wanted to point
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out because i think again how can we women relate to some of the goddesses and i pointed out talk
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about a complex family tree that she has and so many people in the modern world are dealing with
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in-laws step families um you know step children all these complicated relationships and you know
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she deals with that too I mean first of all who's her husband hmm what would it be like to be waiting
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for Thor when he comes in after fighting giants um whether you know it's totally successful or not
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What kind of a personality does it take to do that?
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What's it like knowing that Odin is your father-in-law?
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You know, you've got all these relationships with all the gods and goddesses.
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And I think there must be, again, Frith Weaver and Peacekeeping that's probably Seath is known for.
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So I think she's a really good role model for some of our women.
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and that again is something i've kind of felt on my own also charming of the plow we have often i
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i invoke the goddess gethon and use her as that strong force of a female force to break through
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the ice and and create new from from the frozen ground and all that um so i i do like to work with
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multiple goddesses i don't do very much with with the gods though i have to admit
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i certainly respect them all but um yeah odin obviously forget and then as i said
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freya and the other one so that's kind of how i how i have dealt with the nature of the gods
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Thank you, ma'am. We have a question from Kevin Collin. Is baby naming literally what it sounds
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like in the after days of birth you choose or have chosen a name for your baby? Anna,
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do you want to go ahead and take that? Can you tell us what a baby naming is?
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sure a baby naming is you're introducing your child to the folk and you're introducing the
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child to the gods um traditionally it's you know held nine days after the birth of your child
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um that doesn't always happen um sometimes we just wait for the nine days to you know at the
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very least release the name but you know ideally um it is the first time that the child's name is
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spoken out loud um and when that name is spoken um with that we have that attached the child is
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now attached to us it's now attached to our folk he or she is part of us part of our collective
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weird and that's that's the day that the child starts building that along with us
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thank you ma'am that i appreciate that very much
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and the next question we have is someone new to as a true where is the best place to start with
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the afa that comes from your dress miss sheila could you answer that for us what would be the
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best place to start with the afa uh well obviously go to our website we've got the main one we have
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the four auxiliary auxiliary ones um thorshoff.com waldershoff.org and they're going to have
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different materials on each one of those on those websites you're going to find a folk builder
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and there might be one that is near you but you're not required to only go to the one that's near you
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you can reach out to any folk builders and ask questions i also tell people check youtube we
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have a tremendously powerful youtube channel now with all these victory never sleeps plus matt up
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until now has been doing a monthly live stream where he will answer questions for usually well
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over an hour from anybody who asks them and it's always done with great i mean he's so direct and
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confident and he just instills that in me whenever i want i always love those so there's a lot of
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material there um go through our website go through the old newsletters that we have that will teach
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you a lot about the afa watch the recent uh compilations that matt is putting together of
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our quarterly events because you'll just see second by second go by with these flashes of
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brilliantly happy faces in all types of settings all around the country and actually all around
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the world because we do get them from other countries too some of these pictures matt puts
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those together with music they're really fun if you want to share this is what the afa really looks
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like bring in your your parents to watch it and convince them that no we're really really good
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people you know they're going to see that i do that and then of course there is a book let me
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grab a copy and this book this book is available on the afa website house of true a native european
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religion by stephen mcnell and um it is very much about his journey but also goes through kind of
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basic philosophy that was a foundation for the else through folk assembly uh when he
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began his journey and that which is still stayed intact um the the matt um arles harrier govi and
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the witten have are still maintaining those same standards that were established as a focus church
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honoring our ancestors and um and our gods and everything but it uh has a lot of just
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wonderful deep philosophy to it but it's an easy read and it reads like his lectures so
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there are also a lot of his lectures on youtube as well but um reach out to your folk builders or
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your godhar and any of us go these giddy us would be happy to correspond with you if you're really
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serious you know we'll give you a phone call and talk you through any of your questions and we're
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always happy to do that so my synopsis yes definitely reach out to the folk builders in
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your area and i think with that mention i'm going to give my last shout out for the night
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and that is going to be to folk builder Melissa Mills. Melissa is amazing. Melissa does a folklore
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study every week. She is the driving force behind the AFA store, constantly coming up with new
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products. She is constantly making me stuff for Baldur's Hoff because she's awesome and because
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i'm demanding and annoying but she always does it for me anyway um she's a good friend she's
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hard working she puts together some of the most amazing events um she's just she's amazing and i
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can't thank her enough so shout out to folk builder melissa mills and i hope all of these
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shout outs that we're doing tonight shows you that not only are there women in the afa
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we are not oppressed as proof by the multiple lady leadership we have demonstrated tonight
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here on the podcast miss sheila who do you have left in your district um i have rachel johnson
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who's up in the seattle area with her husband um folk builder mason johnson and uh happened to
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have come across rachel several years ago she's another one of those who met her husband in the
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afa and she was a single lady at that point obviously she was single but never been married
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well no she had but still she had no children he has two children who were quite young at the time
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she came in as a wonderful stepmom and she's been homeschooling them ever since she took over as
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as their stepmom and it's done a wonderful job wonderful kids very active in the community that
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if you happen to look at the odin's hawk um page our calendar you'll see that they have things
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locked out throughout the week that they're doing with their kindred they have a very active kindred
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but she's also one of these people who is anxious to share her successes with her homeschooling so
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she's active on our homeschooling group and all the sharing lots of uh articles she finds and
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recommendations and um telling us all about how to go about some of these things that she has learned
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And she's very, very beneficial to our whole Odenshoff district, but it's nice, really nice having her experience with our Astru Academy now that we've actually launched it.
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Here's a real mom who's doing it and can tell us all how to make it work.
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Speaking of the Astru Academy, I think Nick should pop that link up really quick because it definitely belongs right after Apprentice Folk Builder Rachel Johnson because she does so much work.
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as a true academy.org all of the team have worked really really hard coming up with all of the
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curriculums and the platforms and the support of the parents and interactions it's absolutely
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amazing so special thank you to the as a true academy team also to go the rob stam who is the
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dean of the as a true academy and truly made this a reality so we cannot thank him enough if you
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are a parent that wants to homeschool um definitely check out as a true academy.org
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all right and with that uh miss katie i believe you've got a couple left in your district we want
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to give a shout out to one of them works with the as true academy as well right indeed heather young
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heather young is down in south carolina um she is one of the driving forces behind everything
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that happens in and at Thor's Hof. When the Hof was first purchased her and her husband would drive
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and sometimes she would do it by herself because her husband would be working and she would go to
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the Hof and she would spend hours by herself or with her daughter sanding down the terrible paint
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on the in the vestibule at in the Hof in the right before the sanctuary. She was
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sanding walls painting walls cleaning her butt off i mean she just works her butt off she's a
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powerhouse when it comes to getting things done at thor's off and as a folk builder i don't know
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any person who could say that they've met heather and she is one of the most immediately warm and
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welcoming welcoming people in the world like she's wonderful i love her pieces and it doesn't
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matter if i forget to respond to her messages for weeks on end she'll still be like how you doing
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if she doesn't care that i forget to respond to her messages she just reminds me constantly that
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she's there and she's thinking of me and um i think she does this with a lot of people she's a
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an amazing frith weaver uh and an amazing person and she's pretty cool and last but not least we
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we have, absolutely not least, we have Christine Dumas. A lot of you know who Christine Dumas is.
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Christine Dumas is a kick-ass folk, um, I'm sorry, pardon my language. She is a kick-butt folk
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builder. She works incredibly hard. She has a almost two-year-old son and a brand new daughter.
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I think she's, what, four, five, six weeks, seven weeks, somewhere in that range. Pardon me for not
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remembering I think I mentioned earlier we have like a ton of babies being born right now I think
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we're up to like 38 babies already this year um she just had a baby and she's she didn't take
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I think she took like two days in the hospital and then she was suddenly just there working again
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like I don't know how she does it because I've got two kids I barely have time to breathe so
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um Christine really is amazing she is yes she is Christine is one of the driving forces behind
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the new uh women's chat that we've been having uh once a month and our first one was just last
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Sunday um so that is being headed up by um Githia Katie Githia Anna um apprentice folk builder
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christine dumas and folk builder sarah alt and myself so definitely keep an eye out on me we
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for information on when that's going to be held we're going to get all these ladies together
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once a month and just have a chat about topics that are specific to women and as true
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speaking of social media we have got social media all over the place we have got our youtube channel
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we have got twitter if uh nick wants to pop twitter up there for us or any of our other
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social media groups you can follow us on yep twitter right there um we are on instagram
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we are on me we we have if you are not on me we yet and you are in the attitude folk assembly
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you are missing out because that's where your people are we are everywhere we're also streaming
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live on twitter because nick figured out how to do that so if you're watching us live on twitter
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give us a shout out. We appreciate you being here. But definitely check us out on all of the social
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media. Check out the websites. There'll be links all above the websites with all of the different
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social medias that the Assertitude Focus is on. So if Nick can pop those websites up one more time,
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on those websites, you are going to find all the information in the events calendars about
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everything that's going on in your district. You can also find the news article areas where we have
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She does a constant post in remembrance of Elsie Christensen,
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sharing her wisdom, as well as wisdom of the Alshira Godhi.
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You're going to find things from readings of lore
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to interesting memes that we've made to the last moot that we had
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so definitely check out those websites they are amazing and thank you to all everyone who's worked
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so hard on all of those all right sarah has a question for githia anna githia anna you are
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known for your awesome baking skills is following the recipe sometimes a connection to your ancestors
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and do you see it similar to a ritual i do um when i'm especially when i'm baking for my folk um
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as i'm stirring the dough i'm you know putting i'm putting in my you know my energy my hopes for
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them um i have a very nice electric mixer that i've never used because the vast majority of
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my baking is done for my folk so to use an electric mixer that's just going to take away
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what i can infuse that the cookie dough or the cake batter or the bread with
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um and baking you know baking is something that
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that's that's been like the woman's job in my family it's kind of like the spiritual
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inheritance. It's like your baking was kind of, it was like your pride and joy. It was how you
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showed love. It was how you showed somebody that you cared about them. Is that fresh plate of bread
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or cookies or whatever when somebody came over? There you go. Like, did you eat yet? I hope so.
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food is absolutely a huge part of what we do. Um, I get asked that a lot, you know, why,
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why is it that every time you guys have an event, all these pictures, you are always eating
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because we're always the whole time we're there. We have the most amazing feasts and the most
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amazing cooks, um, food and drink and sitting around a table and sharing with your folk is
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one of the most important things that we do. I'm actually going to take this time to interrupt the
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questions and have Miss Anna explain to us what FICA is and whether or not they're going to have
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FICA at New York's Hof because we have it at Baldur's Hof. Is it going to migrate south? That's
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my question. It is. I'm going to call it FICA, y'all. FICA is a point usually in mid-morning
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where everyone stops what they're doing. It doesn't matter. Everybody stops, puts down
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whatever they're working on. The point of it is to not do any work. It is to sit down, have a cup
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of coffee, have some tea, have like a little bit of coffee cake, a cookie, a rusk, a scone,
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whatever you've got. And it's to sit down and connect and chat with the people around you.
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Preferably not chatting on, chatting about like work stuff or something like that, but genuinely
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talk with the people around you like how are you like how are you feeling today
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yes this is a ritual at Baldur's Hop that happens at 10 a.m and everybody including the people in
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the kitchen will stop what they're doing and sit down and talk to their folk and enjoy enjoy the
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moment because an event is not always work. So even if you're stuck in the kitchen, you're going
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to have fika. Tony writes, not a question. Brandy, you leading bloat during Freyfaxia gym's place
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was something else in the best ways. Helped make all of this really real for me. I'm never going
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to forget it. I appreciate that, Tony. That's one of the, it's one of the best things about being
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a gothi or a gethia one of the very best things is when it becomes real for that person when
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you're walking around that circle and you can see the tears in their eyes or you can you know see
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their heart beating in their neck because of the energy that they're feeling um or you hear their
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voices echo either through the hall or outside i mean it's when it becomes real for someone it
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means a lot for us because that's really that's really what we're here for to be that conduit
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between you and the gods. You know, it's the rituals are great. Ceremonies are great. I love
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doing weddings. My very first, um, my very first ceremony was actually a wedding and I'll never
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forget it. And it was beautiful. Um, but that beauty is also in something as a simple bloat
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or symbol as well. Glenn asks, what is Anna drinking? Uh, tonight I'm drinking Pedialyte.
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and fancy ginger ale in a little tiny can. It's delicious. And pickle juice.
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Gauthier Lane asks, Githias, with the diesel blow coming up,
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what Desire do you connect with the most and why? Um, I'm going to start with that one. Um,
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the Desire that I connect with the most is probably my maternal grandmother, Bonnie.
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She was amazing. She passed away in 1997. Um, she's not gone. So when she passed away and we
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returned back back home after the funeral um it was a really traumatic time for my family
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and we were at home in bed sleeping everybody was asleep it was late at night and i remember
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i was in that place halfway between dream and reality and i felt my bed move like somebody
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was sitting on it and i opened my eyes i looked at the clock and i looked up and my grandmother
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was sitting on my bed and i know that i was not fully awake but i know i wasn't fully asleep
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either and she told me that she just came to say goodbye and to let me know that she's never that
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far away. My grandmother was one of the biggest influences in my entire life. She was strong
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and loud and opinionated and just amazing. Amazing. Her and my grandfather passed away
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at the same time. And my, my grandfather actually, or I'm sorry, my stepdad actually had a sighting
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of my grandfather around the same time standing in my mom and stepdad's bedroom and he and it
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was just a matter of we're just coming to check in and say goodbye so they were both there that
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night to different people but she is definitely the the desire that i go to for everything i talk
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to her every day which is not unusual because i used to talk to her almost every day anyway even
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when we lived when i was a teenager we moved so we ended up being you know a few hundred miles apart
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but she used to get so she used to defend me because my mom would get really really mad at
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me because this is back in the day before cell phones were a really popular thing i know i'm
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going to age myself it's okay it's fine but i used to call my grandmother long distance
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just to hear her voice and for things like a chocolate chip cookie recipe that i would make
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her give me step-by-step instructions and wait until i wrote them down just to hear her voice
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and my mom would be livid about the long distance phone bill
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she's never really gone i don't think our ancestors are ever gone
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they're just a thought a prayer an offering away so yeah that's mine anna what do you got ma'am
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um i've got a woman that i've hailed often at symbol and that would be my grandmother may
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moberg who um she was she absolutely held the family together um everything that happened in
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that family she had okayed it um she was always the one making sure that her grandkids were okay
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um you know according to her i i had never eaten enough even though she maybe she probably just saw
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me put down an entire plate of dessert i had never eaten enough um like i said before she
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had passed away in 2014 she still hangs around me um she's hung around through several moves
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we've had a few conversations um especially both in good times and in bad um i was you know having
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a little bit of a hard time and she just kind of showed up kind of in the back of my head saying
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you know it's going to be okay you're just gonna have to be smart about this and it was exactly
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what i needed to hear she's also shown up you know during times of celebration or times where
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i was feeling great like uh after moving to wilmer that was actually a town that she had
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lived in as a much younger woman but she would she would show up at the apartment
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i could just kind of feel her in the apartment and
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And, you know, the day of my wedding, again, kind of one of those little back of your head.
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You're not sure if you heard it or not, but you're pretty sure that you heard it.
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And even now, I can still feel her down here in Florida.
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so that that would be mine grandma may she also taught me how to make lofsa so
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that is a talent and we thank her for that teaching
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sheila which do you see what's closest to you um mine is my mother my mother who i really never
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got to know very well. As I mentioned earlier, she had cancer from about the time I was probably
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eight years old until she died when I was 12. And she was also working and trying to
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support a family of three. So we had time together because I had older siblings, but
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it still wasn't really intimate time and we never did goodbyes. That was just not a time
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you did that and people were not really prepared for the loss um that comes with with someone's
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passing and certainly that was the case in in my life so i have i have um never really made
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deep connections with my mom and um winter nights is a time to do that um i've looked at the picture
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that i'm going to take out there at odin's hof which is what we do by the way if you happen to be
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celebrating winter nights this year um definitely put out um a beautiful set of table or something
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for for the dc um i know that katie erickson always does a beautiful job at any of her
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winter nights with um lace and teacups and things like that or any flowers uh honor them that way
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but i will definitely i always do i speak to my mother because i don't have the blessings that
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other women here have talked about of really sensing their mother i or grandmother i really
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have not had that and um doesn't mean that it's impossible and won't happen it also doesn't mean
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that she's not there and um that she's not listening i think she is i was going to say
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something earlier about the importance of parents to be reminding their own children um about the
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ancestors the ancestors are there for us when i was teaching eighth grade math one time i think
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it was math maybe it was language arts we were getting to the end of the year testing
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and the kids were kind of apprehensive about about taking the test and i said you know
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So you really aren't alone, you have somebody perhaps standing by you, somebody from the
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other side, who wants to see you succeed and will give you the confidence that you can
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And I think I'm saying to parents right now, if you have kids who are like 9 to 18, you
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know, you've got those kids in the teens, and they're feeling like they don't really
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know themselves very well anymore or their friends and they don't know who to talk to remind them
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that their ancestors are there their ancestors are looking over them and again protecting them
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just like and like uh katie's song protecting them watching over us so i just want to remind
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her about that sorry about that but anyway yes of course i always remember my grandmothers
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but my mom my mom is she she's the one that i reach out to every time by the way i also want
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to say one more thing about uh winter nights that my husband wrote a poem many years ago i think it
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was 1993 called october women there's a video of him uh reciting it but um he also does a tradition
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every year and i love it because it's based on red ray bradbury's um talking about the october
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women and steve always refers that to freya and the dc and it's a beautiful poem so i encourage
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you to read that on your own you can find it if you don't have it i will send you a copy
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because it's one of our traditions it's like you have yule traditions for us
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winter nights is always speed reading october women
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Typically, I would say my maternal grandmother, her name was Mary Alice.
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Alice, we were choosing only Germanic names, so it's still named after my grandmother.
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We just kind of used half the name instead of the full name.
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Anyway, she was a very strong woman who just, I mean, she was just, she was just your average lady.
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I mean, as average as any mother who raises a family is.
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But weirdly enough, and this came up because I've recently gotten into quilting.
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I've always liked the idea of doing quilts and then uh Mandy has her baby quilt project going
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and I can't crochet to save my life um and I certainly can't knit a lot of it is because I
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have carpal tunnel from doing wood carving and uh the thingies are just too hard to use but I
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finally decided to start quilting and um to make baby blankets uh which unfortunately I haven't
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actually made one from andy yet because i had two kindred members who got pregnant now two cousins
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who are having baby showers this weekend and next weekend and so i've been busy like a little
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sewing bee um making these quilts for these these people because i think
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finding um so my my paternal grandmother i didn't really get a chance to know her very well
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um we just weren't we weren't really very close but one thing she did do is she she made this
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quilt for my mom and it's just like a we're very irish uh so it's like green and white with little
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shamrock sewn on it or embroidered in it and uh and some of the shamrocks she embroidered the
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names of some of our family members so it's got her my grandfather it's got my mom and my dad and
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my siblings um and that was it but she basically gave us this kind of family tree quilt and I
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rediscovered it um my mom had given it to me and because I I wanted it and uh because you know
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it's it's something from my grandmother an actual physical thing I have from a grandmother that I
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wasn't very close to and I refound it earlier when we were looking for extra blankets and stuff to
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bring to winter nights for people who might be camping out in case they get cold or whatever
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and I hadn't seen it in years since I was a teenager and it was weird to me to remember to
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just she made that quilt and uh there was this weird kind of thing I can't think of the word or
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like I've been making these quilts and my grandmother used to make quilts and I kind of
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knew that in the back of my head, but it wasn't really present, but I had been thinking about my
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grandmother a little bit, and then I found this quilt of hers right before we're getting to go,
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getting ready to go to winter nights, and I just, I don't know, it was a, it was a strange little,
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I won't call it a coincidence, because I don't think it's a coincidence, I just forget the actual
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word um yeah i've been thinking about her a lot lately um but when we are in sumble
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and this is going to be one of my little off on a tangent thingies um
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one of the things that i i did is i i didn't write the lyrics to the song i had somebody
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else write them because I'm not really um because I did I just did I couldn't think of words but I
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could think of a tune so somebody else wrote the words for me and I made the tune and I created
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what I call our to see your song and I sang it I've sung it at every symbol we've done at a event
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since last winter nights and um the reason why that's important to me is because I you almost
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never hear me call on either of my two grandmothers in Seoul at a national event. I almost always
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choose to honor my desir as a whole. When we do small family symbols with my son, he asks for
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them sometimes, I will speak to them. When we do small kindred symbols, I will raise the horn to
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them. But when we're doing a national event, I feel like there's so much more energy. And so by
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hailing all of my this year, I can give them all a little bit of that energy and that recognition
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that they don't get regularly because they don't have names for me, if that makes any sense. So
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I think it's important to honor all of them. But right now, to make that very long thing short,
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my my paternal grandmother um christina that's who i've been thinking about
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daddy's old thank you another question for you katie githia katie is there any news on phrasehoff
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oh wouldn't that be grand um the news is kind of the same it has it is the last time
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our Asher Godi was asked. When we have Njordshof paid off, we will begin our active
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search for Frereshof, but we will not be doing that until Njordshof is paid off. And one of the
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biggest reasons why it's important to us to not move forward on a hof until the previous one is
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paid off is because then we don't have to worry. There is no issue once we own the hof and it's
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ours we don't have to worry about we just don't have to worry about it anymore it's ours taxes
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and upkeep are the only things we have to worry about no we don't with taxes because they're
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churches and churches are uh tax exempt so um yeah no when we when we have new york's half paid off
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and have it 100 in our position in possession then we will move forward so uh feel free to make those
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donations to that uh that um thingy you see on the bottom of the page i'm sorry um yes
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do that also check out segerheim donations that is a new dream that is becoming reality with the
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help of the folks the dedication and generosity of the folk the generosity and the hard work of
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the leadership this dream will finally come to pass all right and i got another question from
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finn wreath should norse pagans serve in the military i asked because i skipped military
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service in my country and now seriously wondering if i need to go back and serve
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that is entirely up to you on a personal level whether or not you serve in the military
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However, I will say that the As-True Folk Assembly has great respect for our veterans and those who are serving presently.
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And we show them the utmost respect and courtesy because they deserve it.
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Also, good time to also put up that link for the Feast of the Einherjar one more time,
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because this shows us just how much we do appreciate those who serve in the military,
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have served in the military, and especially those who have died in combat and given their all.
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So Feast of the Iron Hair Yard, November 10th through 13th in Oklahoma.
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Also, our store is really, really awesome because of folk builder Melissa Mills comes up with amazing products.
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we do have a new line of hoodies we have got the afa hoodie that afa lights the way odenshoff
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thorshoff baldur's hoff and yordshoff hoodies and i do believe we have zip up and pull over
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so definitely go to the store and check those out and i just want to count look one two three four
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for those who've lost track that's four hoffs four hoffs four on our way to five
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all right sarah asks githia brandy anything awesome coming up at balder's hoff yes and
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always um food pantry is this weekend at balder's hoff um contact uh folk builder ashley minkstocker
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if you want to help or donate to that. Also on the last Saturday of the month, which is going to be
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the 29th, is going to be Winter Nights at Baldershof. I will be conducting the Desire Bloat
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that night, and it'll be from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. is what the event's going to be. Our hosts for that
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event are going to be folk builders jamie elaine sarah alt and jesse schaefer so they recently
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just got oath together at fall fest and they are going to celebrate together by hosting winter
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nights and i'm happy to let them cook because they are all amazing so those are the interesting
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things that we've got going on over at balder's house and i think we've talked about odentopf's
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winter nights got the three-day weekend coming up and Anna you talked about your winter nights
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so speaking about Hoffs so Katie you can speak on Thorshoff you can speak for Thorshoff because
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you're the you're the the lady of the hour in Thorshoff district so every Hoff has a different
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personality every Hoff has something a little bit different you will find that as you travel
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from district to district to district from the from the west coast to the east coast and back
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again every district and every half has something special its own little personality so i just kind
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of want to go around a little bit um and talk about logistics of a half because people are
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always nervous the first time they come they're not sure what to do with below they're not sure
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how that's going to work they're not sure what to do with symbol um so if we could just start out
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uh get the anna if you could kind of just walk us through what happens about what happens at
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on your top what is what how do you guys run your blow what's the logistics of that what
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do the women play what kind of roles do the women play there um well first we have the women bless
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the meat which is a fantastic afa tradition that i just love um and i it's for me when my first afa
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event it's something that i felt very welcomed in with i wasn't just sitting on the sidelines while
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the men do everything else it was it's something specifically for our women to do and it gives them
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that that feeling of oh hey this is my faith too i'm actually doing something i'm doing something
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important um and when i'm when i'm doing a bloat i like to pick i like to pick a woman that may be
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a little bit new uh to help me out with with it um and it's usually either bringing the horn around
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for the folk or bringing the horn from the gods around but i certainly like to give you know new
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women an opportunity to have that experience and to see what to see that there is in fact a place
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for them. And again, New York's Hof is a very new Hof, so we are still trying to work on that
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culture. We're trying to build our own dynamic. All of us, all of the clergy there, we all have
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our own experiences from literally all around the country. So we're still in that very early stage
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of developing our own culture but i think we're off to a really great start
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now sheila odin's hof is really the the first half of the as a true folk assembly and for
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the longest time you know it was the half of the as a true folk assembly and it was almost
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and still is i mean looking at your your pictures of your midsummer it still is kind of the place
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to be in the summertime it's you know it draws a crowd could you tell us a little bit about what's
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special about odin's hof and if there's anything in particular that the women play role in there
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um yeah i would say that um one thing we're learning from the other hawks we're seeing
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successes and traditions established there and now that we all have our own beautiful murals
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that were um painted by witten on harrel ours is of course of odin and that was done
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literally it was done a year ago it was done in october um we have a new tradition and um yes we
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just the same way at the other hops we start with we start with a wake her bloat and excuse me what
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am i saying a welcome to the gods um usually about 1 p.m on saturday and um the women start by by
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blessing the horn and usually matt's the one who initiates that but i will probably leave the
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welcome to the god's ritual which is going to be really fun especially the way matt does it
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because it's kind of a flourish we love that but what we have now started doing
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and this is not just women but this is for all of us it's made clear that as we leave that ritual
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circle we go down to the hall the main building that we have and we enter in the side door and
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i usually lead the way and i will go in and stand before the mural and put my arms up and algy's
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position and say hello and and everybody is expected to do that and watch as everybody
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else comes in it's a relatively new tradition we've only been doing it for but maybe four or
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five months um because we only do monthly bloats just like other people but um it is definitely
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something we're establishing and as expected our our half is very casual compared to the other half
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you know is built on the old afa the afa that had grown over decades a lot of our
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people's people our members were around for many many years we did camping uh events up at camp
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norka um when we got this we were very fortunate to have enough land that we could actually
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arrange for camping and our little town of brownsville is very remote we have one motel
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in town and to get to another hotel it's a good 45 minute drive on mountain road at night that's
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tough so having camping is really wonderful but also it can make for that casual atmosphere what
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we're trying to do now is to get all the uh everybody understanding that bring a change of
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clothes because we might do quote viking games during the day or octoberfest games but when it
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comes to bloat please dress up and honor our god honor odin at his hawk i mean been stressing this
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is the first half in a thousand years we need to show up most respect for open uh and the blessings
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that we have as folks being able to even be there and uh so we're trying to all train
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we're trying to work on that to build a mindset of true reverence for being there some people still
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come kind of to socialize because that's the way it's been established but trying to make it a very
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sacred place for everybody and remind them of that um we have a gorgeous ritual circle
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um with a big black black it actually is a gravel and brick that we have the rays of the sun
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the black sun with black gravel in between just simply beautiful so but we also don't have the
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altar inside we have an altar toad and so that's where things like the baby naming are sometimes
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it's going to be taking place and whatever other rituals we have but we always try to involve our
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women of course and um we're growing we're growing and we're changing and building new traditions
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and i think we all need to be ready to do that because it just makes us better
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kithia katie can you tell us a little bit about thor's hof and what roles the women
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play there and kind of what's special about that hof
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So, I'd say I'm embarrassed to say this, but I'm not really embarrassed to say this.
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I live many hours away from Thorshof and have never been able to be a dedicated attender
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to those events. I've only been there for Ostara in the South and the dedication. So,
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I know that Witten Svan Harul has a lot of really neat and unique things he does in his
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Hoff that are different from things that are done in other Hoffs. They have their own
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called a ritual. They have everybody, you know, stand and greet Thor when they walk in.
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I think he actually started that at Thor's Hoff because that was where the first mural was painted.
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And I know that they have their own meal blessing that they use. It's not their own,
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it was written by Alan Turnage. None of these are particularly about the women because I have to
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admit that I am not super familiar with there being specific female roles in Thor's Hoth.
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That does not mean that they don't have them, it just means that I am not there for their small
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events or their individual things. I live right now, I'm like 10 hours away, before that I was
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six hours away, so it just wasn't something we were going to be doing. I do know that all of
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the women bless the horn uh they bless the mead that's that's a across the board afa thing i think
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every woman i know who has been to at least one afa event knows what it means when we say
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ladies let's go bless the horn um i'm sorry i don't have a better answer than that but uh
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i know they've got to have stuff because i know i'm sorry i don't have the answers for you but
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So Witten Spahn Herald is actually the first person that decided that when we enter the hall, that we are going to greet the god that the hall is dedicated to.
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Also, they have a really beautiful ritual when they bless their maid.
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All of the women actually go up to the altar of Thor, and the men galder while the women are blessing the maid.
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and they gulder very, very, and they're, you haven't experienced a gulder until you
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experience a Thorshoff gulder because those men got style. I'm just going to leave it there.
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They're awesome. But the women bless the mead and then they, they return to the circle. And
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when you're returning to the circle, you're returning to like this vibration of male voices,
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welcoming, welcoming you back to ritual. And it's, it's absolutely beautiful. It really is.
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Um, Baldershof has a few traditions, um, some that Anna and I started together.
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Anna and I had talked, um, talked a long time about women finding their voice in Azzatru.
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Um, and we were working on kulning with our women, which is, um, the old Swedish cattle
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calls, um, kind of yipping and hooting and hollering into the mountains to call, call
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but we started experimenting with that in a modern and spiritual context and we started
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colning we do bloat a little bit different we actually kick all of the men folk downstairs
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they all go downstairs all of the women stay upstairs in the sanctuary and they bless them
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they bless the mead when we're done blessing the mead we actually call our children and our men
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upstairs to bloat, and we do that by calling wunyo. And that is something that Anna and I
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started together there, and we still use wunyo. We also started opening up the doors and hollering
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out into the abyss for all the folk to hear us to come home, to come home to the church.
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we also have a candle that when you up when you come up to the doors to enter the sanctuary when
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the women call you up to bloat there's a candle that you pass your hands over and then that you
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actually use that as a cleansing moment to put your put yourself from the mundane to the spiritual
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place. Put your head on right. Leave everything at the door that doesn't suit you. They wave their
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hand over that candle, and that is always held by a woman. The doorway is always, the woman is
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always there to greet you, and the woman is holding that sacred space, and she is your visual cue
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and your reminder to put everything behind you when you enter into a sacred space.
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we also have the folk flame thank you Nick for putting that up there the folk flame is the most
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photographed item at Baldur's Hoff it's actually really interesting so we ran into the issue
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unlike Odin's Hoff we can't have a big beautiful fire unfortunately and same with Thor's Hoff we
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can't have that we don't have the space so we had to improvise and folk builder Jamie Elaine
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found this amazing candle which is not a candle it's a it runs on isopropyl alcohol and we can
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have a big beautiful smokeless safe flame and this is the folk flame and this what this flame
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represents is the beauty the strength the passion and the fire of our folk soul and during bloat
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we actually asked jb um to walk up and light that folk flame and then we all focus on the folk flame
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and call our folk home and it is the beacon to call the folk back home to their gods
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yeah so that's that's what we got at balder's half that and fika because fika's great
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uh next question is good evening ladies i have heard it mentioned that women have magical
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aspects and as true what is your definition of magic i'm going to give that one first to katie
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there's sort of a stigma about using the word magic as a woman in any of the non-christian
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circles or the the pagan circles or whatever and uh that that transfers over to ostrich and
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it's a shame because magic is real um magic is energy whenever you feel an energy of a place or
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whenever you feel an energy from a person or whenever you you know feel anything you're
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feeling energy and by anything i mean obviously not feelings of emotional feelings whatever but
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that's all magic. Women have an innate magic in them. We always refer to it as the woman's
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intuition, right? We have magic in our blood. It's literally a part of how we're made. And
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it's all about energy. Being able to recognize it is the first step. Being able to manipulate it is
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the next step. When I say manipulate, I'm not talking about like using a magic wand or throwing
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fireballs from your hands or whatever. It's a very subtle thing. It's being in a hall full of
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anxious people and being able to calm somebody down with a calm word or a soft touch on their
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shoulder. That's magic. That's frithful magic where you are literally, sometimes consciously
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and sometimes not. Using an energy from yourself, transferring it to another person, it's calming
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them down, making them feel less anxious. All women can do that inherently. Some women can do
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it while being aware of doing it. And it's when you can be aware of manipulating that energy to
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change something around you that it becomes real magic and not just the the inherent magic that all
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women have thank you ma'am i think i'm going to give this next question to sheila from tony king
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of cheese i've asked this question before but i'll reiterate for my own sake when we die do we go to
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the gods or do we go to our ancestors or both we have to say we don't know do we none of us have
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been there and come back um i'm sure well we do know that hell is a place of quiet and repose
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and that may be where we go and stay for a while but again we talked about the ability to connect
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with our spiritual uh ancestors on the other side with the essence of who they are that they welcome
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us into the fold of uh because we are ancestors at that point ourselves right and in fact my
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husband steve always talked about us as being ancestors in training um yeah i don't really know
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um i i know some people feel that if you do a lot of work here in mcgarth spiritual work
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things that help you transform and evolve that you will have more options and i think that is
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what we we tend to think um some people might be happy to have that quiet repose and others
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i will tell you my husband is one who's going to keep moving when he gets to the other side because
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that his own way of living his life here in Midgarth and he's not going to stop doing that
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so if there's any way of continuing to interact with God in the other world and we don't quite
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know what it's going to be I think we have a certain amount of choice in it and also it will
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be determined by how we've lived our lives well here so warning to everybody if you want to have
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more choices on the other side um be a very good person follow the nine noble virtues live nobly
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as our ulterior tells our ulterior gutti tells us be noble people
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i'm going to add something real quick so obviously like like sheila said none of us have died and
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come back but um if you ever get the chance to read the book the road to hell it's a really
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really good really good book um that goes into detail about what our ancestors believed death
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was um and one of the things that they explain in that book is how you know we are made up of our
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soul complex is made of more than one part right our body is one part of our soul and one of the
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reasons why our ancestors used to visit the how or the burial mound of their ancestors was because
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they believed that when you buried the body in that place that literally became the home of their soul
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they also believed that there was a tunnel or a a portal from the how to the halls of the
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ancestors or to other places so that our our ancestor or our family member who passed away
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wasn't stuck in that how they could go to the halls of their ancestors or wherever i don't
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remember all of the exact details um at the moment because it's been a very long time since i've read
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the book but but when you would go to visit that that that grave you were literally going to speak
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to the soul of your ancestor or to that piece of their soul and they could come back from wherever
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they were and be there and listen to you and commune with you it's one of the reasons why
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grave sites have always been very important to us because they know like
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our our ancestors graves and our family members graves are as holy and sacred a place as they
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would be to native americans or to in other faiths like that because theoretically you
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can literally communicate to your ancestor through the the resting place of that piece of their soul
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so the fact that our ancestors believe this definitely leads us to believe or i mean i
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firmly believe that there is more after death it's like sheila said we don't have any real way of
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knowing what that is i will say that i don't believe that the majority of people will ever
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go to the hall of a god that is a an honor i'm not saying that nobody will but it was an honor
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that was reserved for very special circumstances uh in some circles you will hear people who will
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talk about how they're going to valhalla because they are warriors but they're literally like
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they're warriors because they are mentally ill and they are not killing themselves and because
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they have not killed themselves even because they want to that makes them a warrior they are strong
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they're battling on and so they get to go to valhalla um and i am not kidding i have heard
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more than one person actually say that that is why they are going to valhalla because they are
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depressed and they don't kill themselves so um yeah no i think most of us will not
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be lucky enough to go to the hall of a god. If you want that honor, if you want to be chosen
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by a god to go to their hall after your death, you have to achieve great things.
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And it's something we should all strive for. So it works as a sort of,
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it's a good thing to strive for because it'll, how can it not make you better than you are now?
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And if we're as Ossetree people and as a strong and proud Aryan people, we should always, always be working to be our best selves.
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There's only the striving for best self, if that makes any sense.
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But if you're better today than you were yesterday, you're on the right track.
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and uh if the war of a god's hall after death is good enough to to pull you forward and upward into
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a a greater person than you are then it's a good thing to strive for but yeah we don't know what
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comes after death but we know that our ancestors believed in certain things which makes you more
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likely well we definitely know that you need to live by the nine noble virtues you need to live
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an honorable life you need to we are our deeds right so as far as what happens to us when we die
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pretty much you are going most people are going to go to hell that is a basic con that is just
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how it is you know just like katie was talking you're not going to um die from your battle with
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cancer and go to valhalla that's not how it works what you're going to do is you're probably going
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to go to hell with the rest of your ancestors. Hell with one L is not a scary place. I mean,
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not really. Your ancestors are there. That's where most of us were. That's where most of us
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will go. If you have the ability to be a great hero and transcend into something stronger,
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then you would be honored by going to the halls of your ancestors or, you know, transcending and
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becoming something different, becoming something great, a great spirit that comes back and protects
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the folk. But yeah, you're definitely not going to go to Valhalla unless you die in battle. And
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even then, you know, you may not get chosen just because you die in battle. You may not get chosen
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either. But yeah, the simple reality is most of us are going to go to hell and we're all going to
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be there together as a folk. That's just the way it is. Transcendence is a thing and you need to
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transcend to the next level and be absolutely amazing to earn that spot. That's the Brandyism
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on that that's that's that's the short and simple version that's good hey brandy you know this might
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be a good time to talk about our plans at the hof so to how we do interments so that people have a
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place of resting place for them yes for their yeah yeah absolutely so um thor's hof already does have
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one soul resting on that land um mr pathea i believe is how you say his last name
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He is already on the property. Right now, we do have our
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honored ancestors that are buried on the grounds of Odenshof, and Sheila can tell us a little bit
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more about that. At Baldershof, we're working on setting up and getting what's called a columbarium,
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and it's basically a marble stack where you could be intoured and sealed into that stack.
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So we're currently working on the logistics of how to make that as absolutely beautiful as possible without taking up the entire yard because we don't have a lot of space to work with.
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So we're going to try to get creative with that.
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So that's something that we're working with right now.
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If you do want to be interned at the Hoffs, make sure it's in your will.
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If you need to, if you absolutely want to be remembered at the Hoff, put it in your will.
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i don't know if there we go nick is on it doyourownwill.com send your will in and let
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us keep a copy of it for you it's not to be nosy it's not to get into your business it's to make
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sure that what you want done with your remains if you want to be buried at a hof can be done
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the last thing that you want to do is just tell somebody and then they end up giving you a burial
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in a catholic church and putting you you know somewhere where you don't want to be so please
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make sure that you do your do your will right down there is the address nick is going to leave that
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up for just a little bit while sheila talks about odenshof cemetery so that our people can write
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that down sheila you want to tell us about odenshof yes i'd be happy to so we happen to get a nice
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um piece of property um when we bought odin's off there in brownfield it had been the old
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grange hall that's how it's been used as i said since 1938 and had many many uses um has a very
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large parking area big gravel parking area and there's one area to the west that was kind of
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scrubby and it was outside some fencing we actually have the fence now so that our back
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area that's very private people can't see us when we're out there having our meals or doing rituals
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with this other area and it was decided that um we would set this aside for for a cemetery we
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looked into it and there seemed to be no issues with us actually entering ashes that we couldn't
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do an actual physical body of a person even somebody who was involved that's just not the way
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it would work there you know it would take too many regulations obviously um and this is fairly
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open it can be actually seen by the road you know to a certain extent easy anyway quite close the
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road so um matt um with some help actually uh laid it out figured out i'm not sure how many
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um places how many sections we have but they're each like three by eight feet
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and we're offering that basically that could house a complete body though we're not doing
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that we have two internments there already and the first one was done a few years ago and it
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carries the ashes of um our very good friends as i said go the um thorgrin odin and his wife katie
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their adult daughter passed away from sepsis it's been about 12 years ago maybe and
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they always kept her ashes and matt gave them permission to do the first internment there and
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we did that at midsummer i think was three years ago um and thorgan is very norwegian and so he
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actually laid out stones in a um in a shape uh shape of a ship so it goes you know papers in
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at either end katie is very much into flowers whether they be still for real and so she planted
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lots of perennials in there and we did a beautiful um ceremony and i actually um
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did the design for the headstone we have a friend who does headstones and so we put the the um the
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algaes and the opposites um for the death room the life room um for birth and death dates and
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it's very it's beautiful and we did a very nice ritual um for her ceremony for becca becca roth
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when um we did midsummer the next one was um kind of an unfortunate situation where one of our
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members was tragically killed and um at that point one of his very best friends met uh mark mcleod
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who is the manager of odin's hops uh decided it was time to actually uh fence in the hop so he
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arranged was able to get enough money i think a couple thousand dollars that we now have
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wrought iron fencing with a nice beautiful little gate that goes in.
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So you have to look at pictures of Odin's hawks.
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And we did do a very nice ceremony with all of Adam's friends who were there
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And oh, and the other thing is that if you don't know,
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if you're not a genealogist, you might not know,
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they list all the cemeteries and volunteers go in and they actually take photos they'll take the
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information off of the graves in cemeteries and odenshof cemetery is listed on find a grave so
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you can actually go to findagrave.com put in brownsville and you will see the two graves
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close-ups of this two graves and it is open to of course all of our members we do not charge
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you know how much it costs to actually enter someone in a public cemetery or another church
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cemetery um we ask that the family maintain that they put in the the original placement of the
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ashes and we actually have them in a box we've got them watertight and everything so they're
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well protected and um and then if the parents the family can maintain that grave site but we'll do
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it regardless it's what we do and uh so we have the two and um it will be wonderful to see what
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happens to the other sprays hall is obviously i mean north soft has plenty of land it'll be
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interesting to see what they come up with do you have an area anna that has been determined to be
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a good cemetery for your place we don't we don't yet so i i think that that is in the works
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there is a lot of just wild area at um new york's off um
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i think right now we can only walk around on about half of it without actually getting into
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the woods so yeah um but it's definitely something that we're going to look into
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and i know we have the space for it and it's something that i would obviously love to see
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because it's uh seeing that that first um official burial at odenshof in what midsummer 2020 that was
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that really just choked me up because again it's like now we have our folk now have a place of
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their own and they have a final rescue place of their own we're not just borrowing somebody else's
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cemetery or we're not just having to just throw the ashes just out somewhere we have a final
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resting spot of our own and it's amazing to see that yeah so the burial of our people and the
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respect the remains of our people are so important no one who is remembered is ever truly gone
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So it is our intent and is the intent that they ask to Folk Assembly to make sure that when someone is interred at our house, that they do understand that it is a commitment to them.
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Your family doesn't have to worry about whether or not you're going to be tended or remembered.
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This next question, I'm going to combine these two because they're kind of the same question.
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Tony King of Cheese asks, a question for you, Githias.
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How would you suggest getting closer to the gods?
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ritual or is there something more and nick asks how can a feller work on getting closer to the
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aces specifically or a lady the ace i'm assuming the gods and the goddesses uh
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get the applaud could you answer that for us um ritual is great it's not the only way it's not
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what i would recommend actually for the first thing the first thing that you need to do is
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acknowledge that your gods and goddesses are real you need to speak with them as they're real because
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they are um it's not just an idea they're not just some archetype they are actual beings um
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if you want if you want to start making that connection start talking to them as if they're
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real because they are. And, you know, once you start doing that, you know, start reading about
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them. Some of the information's a little bit hard to find, but do your best. Do your research. Do
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your homework. Start finding ways to connect. You know, it can, it can be in ritual, but it can also
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be just going through the woods and thanking them for that. It can be, you know, an activity
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that you enjoy and keeping them in mind. Thank you, ma'am. This next one I'm going to give to
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Githia McNallan because I think that she will be able to answer this very well. Growing up in
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Christianity, women were seen in a much different way. What is something you want our menfolk to
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know about women in Aztru? That's interesting. Certainly growing up in the Catholic Church,
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there was no role at all for women except to be a nun. And gee, what kind of a life was that,
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right um and i know it changed um i lived through um whatever vatican two and saw the big changes
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of the the priest turning around facing everybody everything was in english and then they started
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bringing all the lay people but um i think what's really special and also true is the way that all
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of the women are involved in whatever level they want to participate they're encouraged to continue
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learning on their own about the god to choose their own god i mean when we do stumble and talk
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about a simple ritual everybody takes part you all honor everyone honors a god or goddess and
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everybody honors an ancestor and then you thought that the third one we're all learning together
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it's it's uh it's definitely community when we do that and um there is the women have every
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potential for for learning as much as the men do um i really recommend that again when we talk about
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the gods and goddesses that spawn harrel and matt and having their victory never sleeps
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go into some really interesting things about all the layers of the gods we tend to look at them
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superficially but um there's there's so much to be learned about our gods and goddesses
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but our women are i think we all live we basically live australia we are also true that is one
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definition we are asked to we live our lives totally by also true by our standards and knowing
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that we are connected to our god that we're descended from them and through our descendants
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through our physical lineal uh ancestors we have every right to be here and feel
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powerful from that knowledge um we should all feel all women should feel empowered being an
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because there are no barriers set up for us so i think the men need to know that
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they've got great potential in the women about success thank you ma'am
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all right can i add something yes ma'am go ahead um something i would like the men to know is that
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we as women we are here to build with you we're not we're not trying to compete we
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we want to build this together with you it's like you are our half our other half and we are yours
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so we want to be here we want to be here with you perfectly said
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daniel young asks can you explain the role of a horn bearer
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so this is something i feel very strongly about too um when i was theodish and it comes
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back to that a lot because that was my starting point and that would that built a very a very
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specific foundation for me in a lot of the way i i have formed my world view um and the world view
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being the way i view the world through our faith um and just about the only important role that
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theodism had for women was that of the hornbearer um unfortunately i'm not going to be able to give
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you an example from the Lord for a few minutes and I can't remember which one it was but there's one
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story in particular it might have been Beowulf but don't don't quote me on that um where the
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lady of the hall is the horn bearer and and it shows you in the story it shows you how she works
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the room as a frith weaver she carries the horn and when a new person enters her hall it's her
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job to greet that person and to offer them the hall, the horn, to offer them the hospitality of
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their hall. And that creates a frithful bond right then and there. I am giving you the gift of my
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mead and the gift of my hospitality. And when you drink that mead, you are accepting it. You are
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agreeing that you are going to participate in the frith of that hall. And then you see like there
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are two gentlemen in the hall at this feast day who are not on good terms with each other and
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she is able to walk up to the two men and pacify it simply by being there because men are supposed
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to behave better around women when there's a lady of the hall in front of you especially if she's
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carrying a horn you behave better because it's it's a holy thing that horn the horn is that
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our horn is our receptacle um for all of the things all of our gifts to the gods and it is
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often the receptacle in which those gifts are returned so the woman who carries the horn is
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extremely important because she is carrying the holy mead she's carrying that holy horn
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and she is by her very nature and that is that of a frithweaver because we are all inherently
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as women frith weavers um some of us are better at it than others um and by that i don't mean that
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in a negative way i mean there are women out there who are like the antithesis of frith
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who sow discord wherever they go those are not our women thankfully our women uh
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have chosen to be above that kind of behavior but um a woman is a frith weaver by nature and
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And when she's holding that horn, she uses her frith.
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And one of the things that's really important about a woman who carries a horn,
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particularly during sumble, and this is where it gets really important for me.
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When a woman is carrying that horn, she is using her frith at all times.
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When somebody is extremely upset while raising the horn to a family member who is deceased,
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if they get really upset because they're feeling some kind of way about it she can reach out and
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put a hand on that shoulder and sometimes that hand on that shoulder or just that light little
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little touch is enough to let that person know I'm here for you uh I can help you um you're not
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alone and sometimes that's all it's a you like I've done that before in some life with somebody
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who got so upset they were just really sad their father had just passed away and it was just you
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could tell he could barely talk he was so upset and I reached out and I put my hand on his arm
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just just a casual little like it's okay I'm here you're not alone and we became really good friends
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just from that little interaction because he I'd like to think he could feel it but he certainly
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knew that it was like a genuine moment i guess um and but that's a form of magic or energy
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manipulation or frith um there's also the concept of masculine energy versus feminine energy
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masculine energy is a lot more um has a lot more friction to it men men are men are the
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the doers they are the not that women don't do i'm i i always mess this part up when i'm explaining
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it because i think it's the right word for it but men have a very different energy i i often say it's
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a chaotic energy but i don't like calling that that because when we think of chaotic energies
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and ostrichery we think of things that are a lot more negative than masculine energy
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Men have a very penetrating energy, or women have a very receiving energy.
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Men are very penetrating and very powerful and very forward motion and very strong and forward movement.
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It's true, but it's also, it can be a little bit, their energy can be very over, not overbearing,
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overbearing is not quite the right word but it can it can sort of take over a thing it's strong
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and the woman who's carrying the horn her job is to make sure that when a man hands the horn back
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because we always during our high symbols the woman carries the horn and the woman is always
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touches that horn before the next person gets it and the reason why that happens is because
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by holding that horn her frithful energy it doesn't erase what that man put into the horn
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because that's not the point we're putting our energy into that horn because we want it there
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but what it does is it sort of neutralizes it it takes that that like super uh frictive energy
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and turns it into um not passive but you know it it it it just helps settle it down so that
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the next person kind of like you're forming the nutrients and protons of that masculine energy
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right yes uh but no she takes the horn that energy becomes it transforms into something else it goes
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into the horn and when you give that horn to the next person it is now ready to receive that
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person's energy and that person's wishes and that person's words so it kind of it doesn't
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empty it it doesn't erase it it just alters it so that it's it's ready for the next person and
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that's extremely important and it's a it can be a lot of hard work any woman on this call who has
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ever carried the horn around a very uh energy filled stumble knows that it can be very draining
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sometimes because you use a lot more energy carrying that horn around than you think you do
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um it's one of the reasons why um we like to have our giddies do it whenever there we have them
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because we literally have been trained to deal with that kind of thing um something i like to
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do that i'm sort of low-key and also not low-key because i keep talking about it on all of these
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calls i like to push is the idea that on the third round of stumble we don't choose a giddia
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to carry the horn we use that to honor a woman who has um been really awesome in some way so
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because the third round is the round where we toast the living we can we can we can toast
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ourselves we can toast our folk but it's kind of a lighter more energetic and um round it's um
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i like to choose a woman who's done something really awesome because um even though i just
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said it's a lot of hard work to carry the horn it's also an incredible honor to be allowed to
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carry that horn because uh you are literally becoming a a tool in the ritual of sambal and
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sambal it absolutely is a ritual by itself it is an important ritual one of our most important
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rituals so being allowed to be a tool or a a very important role in sambal is an honor um
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just recently at the New York's Hoff dedication Miss Pam got to carry the
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horn around third round and that's because every single person who in her
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kindred who helped make the New York's Hoff dedication possible turned and
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pointed to her and said her she gets it she earned it
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unanimously across the board and she tried to deny it but I didn't let her
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She was, you know, she tried to say she wasn't awesome, but we all know she is.
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I've asked Heather Young to carry the horn before because she's worked her butt off to make Thorshoff successful.
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Yeah, so the hornbearer is, it's very, it's a very important role.
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And it's one of the most honored roles that a woman can have.
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by no means the least role or the only role, though, like some other shoots of our faith
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would make you think. Sorry, that was a really long answer, but I told you I was passionate
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about it. That's all right. You were thorough. You did a good job. Sheila, Ashley wants to
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let you know that she left her charger in your car today. All right. Josh asks, good evening,
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Githia. Would there be anything you all respectively would like to see for or request
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of your folk for the future immediate or not? I'm going to take this one. There are a few things that
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I would like to see of our folk or request of our folk. Number one, be courageous and be strong.
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Be brave for your gods. Be brave for your ancestors and be brave for your folk and for
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your church. That would be my first request. My second request would be to be generous and strong.
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being generous is being generous to your church is not just giving money to your church
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when you donate ten dollars to Odinshof you're donating ten dollars to Odin when you donate
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ten dollars to Thorshof you are donating ten dollars as a gift to Thor the same with Balder
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the same with Njord a gift to the as a true folk assembly is indeed a gift to the gods themselves
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We are not out here driving Porsches, buying $40 million homes.
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And obviously, our gods are gifting us in return.
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and also go to runestone.org and go into, I believe it is in the donation section and you
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can donate to any of our Hoffs. You can donate to the Folk Services Fund. You can donate to the
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South African Fund. I bet we've got a link for that on here as well. There we go. You can also
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donate to Sigurheim. Sigurheim is a dream that will become a reality. You can also donate to
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the As a True Academy. That is something that will always be amazing and build to the future
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of your children. So when you ask what I would, what I would ask and request of my folk, be
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courageous, be strong, and be generous. Ashley asks, what makes a great Githya?
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we'll do a round table on that one how about anna first anna what makes a great githya
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genuine love for your folk genuine faith in your gods and then the combination
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having the faith in your folk that you can bring them to know the gods like you do
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and patience and sometimes being willing to be really annoying with people
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awesome sheila wow that was wonderful that was succinct and beautiful but also know your people
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know who they are know what their needs are know what their pleasures are their joys
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who's their family what are their challenges and uh you know be there for them no matter what
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katie i pretty much have to reiterate what anna and sheila have already said
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our folk are there's no point in being a giddia if you have no one to help there's no point in
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being a giddia if you're sitting all by yourself in the woods it's great you're you're honoring
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the gods and stuff but what's the point if you're not helping the your folk you need let's love them
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know them and we should always be striving to do to help them and to help ourselves be better so
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it's all about the folk you'll have i would say time and dedication
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if you do not have the time you need to learn how to bend physics to make it
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Being a Gidea is the most important thing that you will do.
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If you ask me what I do, I won't tell you how I pay my bills.
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I will tell you that I'm a Gidea of the Azitru Folk Assembly.
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I am a priestess of Balder and I serve my folk and my church.
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Ask me how I pay my bills is an entirely different story.
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What comes first is that I'm a Gidea of the Azitru Folk Assembly.
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So if you can't find the time, you need to bend physics and make the time.
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and have the dedication not only to the folk, but also to the gods.
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We are the priests and priestesses of the Aesir, and we can never forget that.
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That is our primary services to the gods, and then to our church and to our folk.
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Sarah asks, Githya Brandy, could you talk about the folk mother and her memorial altar at Baldur's Hof?
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Sure. So at Baldershof, we have a altar to Elsie Christensen. There is a beautiful picture of it
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with all of its fall decor. We use this as a primary focal point for dedication at Baldershof.
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It is to the left of Balders altar. To the right of Balders altar is our ancestor altar,
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But this one is for Elsie. Elsie Christensen is kind of like our matron over there at Baldursoff.
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We leave offerings for her at this altar. We actually have a dedication that we do at our longer events, our three-day events.
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We'll have a dedication that we do to her on the first day of the event, honoring her, remembering her, and giving her gifts.
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because remember no one who is spoken of ever leaves us so this is her way of still being here
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elsie was a fantastic woman um please visit www.baldershoff.org and visit the news feed or
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the blog post um sarah alt does an incredible dedication to elsie on a regular basis with
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actual tidbits about her life information um repostings of her writings and her works
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So definitely visit Baldershoff.org and take a look at the blog post. There's something all the time up there for the folk mother.
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All right. Next question. Do we have any more questions? I think we might.
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Just checking to see if I missed any. Ah, there's one.
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uh dylan walters asks i'm new here and have not become a member yet to the thorshop district and
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was wondering if anyone could share more information on as true folk i wear my mjolnir
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every day and also have a yidrasil tatted on my back i mean he is looking for a good practice i
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should be doing every day and is there a place close to indiana i could worship the gods at
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and just all info you could tell me about the as a true folk assembly mr dylan walters i could
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talk to you for another probably 24 to 48 hours straight about the as a true folk assembly so
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that would be a very long conversation but what i will tell you is to go to runestone.org take a
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look at the declaration of purpose the statement of ethics and the laws of the hall and make sure
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that you would be in compliance with those and that you would support those as well if you can
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support those you can support our church and contact uh you're in indiana reach out to folk
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Builder, Zach Cato, or no, Katie, who we got over there?
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If we can pop up Jonathan's email address, it should be jrock at runestone.org, I believe.
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Get a hold of him, and he will get you in touch with folk, talk to you a little bit,
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let you know what you need to know, and he'll let you know about any moots or anything that
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are going on as long as you are somebody that he feels can be safe and productive and worship the
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gods. Can I add something? Yes, ma'am. As far as what you can do or how you can learn to worship,
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I know that that question has already been answered in a couple different ways a couple
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different times, but something that I think is really important that people forget to do is
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finding small ways every day i talk i've talked about this before i talked about it when i was on
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my first interview with matt but it was in relation to children and something i wasn't i
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didn't really talk about was the fact that when i'm doing it with the children i'm also doing it
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myself i see a stray cat in the woods we have one a little orange tabby that kind of runs around in
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our wood line out in the back of our yard and occasionally leaves a dead mouse out in our
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driveway whenever i see that cat um i just always assume it's a girl because it leaves the dead
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animals and that's more of a female cat thing um i just it makes me think of freya and so i have a
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occasional reference to freya out of the blue just that happens in my daily life i see two crows and
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i know realistically it's not hug and munan for one they're crows not ravens but i digress uh
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crows are always in pairs they mate for life and you almost never see just one crow you almost
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always see two and if you only see one the other one's really close by but that doesn't matter i
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see two crows and i think of odin and so every day every day i have a daily reminder to think of
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odin um it's it's easy for me to think of frigga because i have children um or i see a fireplace
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in a home on a movie. That's enough to make me think about Frigga because Frigga is the goddess
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of the hearth and the home. It's little things like that, little associations that you need to
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build up in your own head. And if you don't know much about our gods or you have questions, reach
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out to our folk. Reach out to Jonathan Rock. Reach out to one of us here on this caller, to any of
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our Godar, and ask questions. We don't mind answering them. In fact, we enjoy answering
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questions. But find little ways every day that can make our faith every day. Have a little daily
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ritual that you do every morning when you wake up. It can be something as simple as I'm lighting
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a candle on an altar and saying good morning and hail the gods. I don't know. It's something as
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simple as uh if you have like a an altar touch it every time you walk past it just a little
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tap it when you go because it makes you a physical action that makes you aware of that altar in your
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space it doesn't it doesn't have to be complicated you don't have to do big old bloats you don't have
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to do you know say big long prayers or anything like that i mean it's good to do those things too
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don't get me wrong, but it's find little things every day that you can do that make you think
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about our gods, that make you think about our ancestors. And that makes it every day. And the
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reason why I think that is so important, particularly with our parents, is if you teach
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your children to make those little associations, they will grow up so immersed in our faith that
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they have no reason not to be ositru and we want them to be so ositru that their children
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when they have them are so much that that much further removed from like the christian faiths
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that's that's a thing for me like i don't have an issue with christianity i just don't agree with it
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um no anger there or anything but i don't want my kids to be there i want my kids to be as
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unchristian as possible i want them to be asa true and if i can raise them to be 50 times more
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asa true than i could ever be because i was raised christian and some of those things will never be
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out of my thought process then they'll raise their children to be 50 more asa true and they'll raise
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their children to be 50 more asa true and eventually however many generations from now
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our children will be so asa true that there is nothing else they won't have that christian
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guilt complex or any of that and that was really like that spiraled sorry for that rabbit hole
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guys but really just find little ways every single day to make ositru and our gods and our ancestors
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and our faith part of what you do you don't need to go big even katie find the rabbit holes that
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i tend to find good job it's usually my job to jump down the rabbit hole but you did very well
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with that. And I agree with you. I've never raised my children with the choice of if they could be
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Christian or if they could be Buddhist or if they could be Asatru or if they could be Wiccan. They
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didn't have a choice. They were raised Asatru. That's what they were raised in. I didn't give
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them a choice of let them feel out what it is that they want to do. If they want to do that
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later on in life, it'll break my heart, but they'll do it if they want to, I suppose. But
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will it break my little heart yes it will because this means that much to me um but yeah i didn't i
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didn't give them the option i don't give them the option to experiment with things this is how i'm
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raising my children these are the this is the culture i wanted to raise my children in and
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this is the values that i want to raise my children in and fortunately um my kids my kids came with me
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to the AFA. My kids came with me in the AFA at a really good time in their lives where they were
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old enough to understand what was going on, but they were also at an age and Anna can remember
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they were little. Well, I shouldn't say they were little, but they were a lot littler than they are
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now. But they had a chance to learn and grow and be influenced by a lot of the masculine role
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models that they found in the AFA. My children, some of their favorite people in the AFA are the
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last speaker, Alan Turnage, and the Osheri Argo, the Matthew Flavel. And each one of them is a
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little bit different. You know, when we were doing construction on Baldur's Hoff, on that first fall
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fest, when we had just gotten the Hoff, and we were literally tearing things down. And one of my
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children looked at the Alshira Gauthier and said, hey, do you think you could judo kick this wall
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in? And the Alshira Gauthier said, I don't know. Let me try. And he did. He kicked the whole wall
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in. And my kids were amazed. And he has been one of their heroes ever since. And the law speaker,
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Alan Turnage, introduced my children to Chick-fil-A. And he has been their hero ever since.
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so my kids have been influenced by these strong masculine pious men in their life and i couldn't
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be more grateful for it so yeah i wouldn't have given them i wouldn't have given them
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a choice for anything else you know could i add something absolutely okay so something we
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only established maybe 15 years ago but that for us is to bless all our meals and my when steve and
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i sit down to a meal we don't start until we trade off you know each each meal one of us will do the
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food blessing and we don't do the same one all the time we have a lot of the same verbiage but
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it changes you know kind of the mood and what is ahead of us for the day but it's our way of
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connecting with the many blessings we have in this world
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to even be here in Midgarth to have another day
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to remember the ancestors and what they went through
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to get us to this point and the meals that they had
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and how this may or may not be similar to what they had.
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the animal that died um it carries us forward and we use that so we always thank the animals
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if we have animals but we also do that at our hops and it is a tradition and the other thing
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when it talks about something about the women at our hop uh one of the traditions we have is
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when after a meal blessing which is done by a godi or givia um we always say and we do our
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really hail the gods hail the folk hail the afa is how we always end which is wonderful it's very
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dynamic um and then it's women and children eat first and the men always step back and all the
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women and then would be maybe guests men who are might be new there and then you know the
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the establishing leadership women or men doesn't matter our giddy is our our and also folk lady
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folk builders always eat last and that's what we do we take care of our folks first and that's
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the tradition in each of our hops too kind of comes from um my husband being in the military
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and saying that the leaders there make sure that their men always eat first and that um the uh
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the leader would eat last and if there's anything and believe me there have been a few times a man
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hasn't had very much to eat and he'll tell you about it but so we always have to have plenty
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and plenty on hand for mac he's got quite an appetite he's so much fun but um anyway that
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also we always do a greeting to the day a lot of you know that we do that and it is something we do
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renews our own relationships gets us ready for the day we honor our gods and goddesses if we do that
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and makes us gives us healing hands to do our work so those are just some simple rituals that
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anybody can build in especially if you have children do the food blessing give them the
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responsibility of of thanking for the food that they have definitely quick rabbit hole yes you
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were talking about alan my son never likes alan except for that he loves alan when my he's four
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and up until about three months ago he went on like a year and a half long growling binge he
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would not smile at people he would not talk to people if they looked at him if they talked at
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him if he had any even thought in his head that they might come near him he'd growl at them
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it was it was cute at first it didn't last it was really irritating actually and uh my son
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every time alan tried to talk to him growing at him and then all of a sudden they were like best
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buds like i don't know what happened that alan alan has always been really really good to my
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kids and i appreciate it because i don't know he it's it's that was my funny story about alan
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and he's alan's pretty cool i like that dude yeah everybody like alan is a great dancer i never knew
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that the uh the last speaker could get down like that until we were over at uh at a fall
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fest for baldur's hof and we we danced the night away it was a lot of fun there's pictures to prove
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it it's all i did actually want to add one more thing but i got distracted by the alan thing and
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this is really cute uh really quick i swear my children don't have a choice they are going to
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to be also true we are trying not to teach them about anything else not because they don't have
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the right to know but because there's no reason for them to know about things some things when
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they're as young as they are my kids are four and two there's no reason for them to be confused with
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information about Jesus Christ all of our family outside of us are Christians so it can be a little
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complicated sometimes trying to let them know why our family is doing other things but something
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that I think is really important is I want my children to love Asitru. I'm not trying to force
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them to be Asitru because through anger or fear or anything like that, they don't need to be scared
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that if they're not Asitru, they're going to be smited. I'll tell them I won't talk to them
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anymore. I'll be lying and they know it, but I want them to love it. And it's really easy to teach
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children to love Asitru because Thor's a really cool dude. Read them some of those stories. He's
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this angry guy who eats goats and smashes yotans my four-year-old is all about killing things right
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now so Thor is like the best thing in the world and um like he he he has insight into that stuff
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that you wouldn't expect a four-year-old to have because he's never had the outside influences and
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we were in the woods the other day and I'm not particularly fond of heights and we were on a
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walk that went past a little cliff down to the river and I was like don't get too close and I'm
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like i'm sorry i'm scared that doesn't mean you should be scared mommy just gets anxious and i
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don't want you to like my anxiety about things to make you scared because i don't want him to
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be scared of the things i'm scared of simply because i'm scared of them right it's a conversation
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went a little differently because he's four and he just told you to me he's like it's okay mommy
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i'm not scared thor is always next to me and he protects me what kind of child thinks to say that
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about jesus christ none sorry most four-year-olds don't have a real grasp of christianity when
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they're christian they just know they go to church and they come home and you know but when we teach
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our kids to really love our our faith and to really love our gods because our gods are cool
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that's easy to do they understand it they understand it better than i they probably under
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when kids are little and they don't have those outside influences and they love it they understand
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it better than we could ever hope that they would understand it so that's yeah i can but
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and i don't have that much um parenting advice because um i don't have kids just yet but um
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i think one thing that's gonna really help our children to love this faith is instilling them
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the idea that this is inside of us already we're not having to go to some foreign source for it
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it's already in here it is part of us it is we are born with this as part of our greater folk
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soul and we are born into this huge connected web of folk true story yeah
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let's see we do have a couple questions left we have a green leader asks what's the best way to
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bring more women into the afa well so far tonight we have shown you four githias
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14 full builders and apprentice full builders right 14 of them and that is just leadership
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like i said we've never had more women in the afa than we do now we've never had more kids in the
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AFA than we do now. We've never had more lady leadership than we have now. And it's just a
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matter of, if you have a woman in your life that is, that honors the gods, that honors the Aesir.
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If you can bring her to one of our events, one of the moots, and honestly let her know that we are
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okay. All right. We are not going to be a bro show. We are not going to be a drinking social
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party. We are not going to take our clothes off and dance naked under the moon. We are
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child friendly. We are family friendly. We are your parents friendly. We are a good group of
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people doing great and amazing things. And most of us are normal people. Some of us are extra
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awesome like myself and the ladies on the call but most of us are perfectly normal
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but bring you bring her out bring out your sister bring out your mother
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bring out your friend from work they won't regret it they're gonna see that we're perfectly safe
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that we honor our gods our ancestors and our folk and that we're just good people to be around so
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that's my advice on how to bring women to the afa does anybody else have any advice on that
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yes don't act like other types of dudes and this goes for the ladies too our ladies are feminine
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ladies our men are masculine men portray that dress well at our events so when we take pictures
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and we share them with people they see well-looking feminine women and well-looking masculine men
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um we take pictures we take a lot of pictures and if when people look at those pictures they see
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this goes for women and as much as i don't like to admit this women are going to look at those
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pictures and judge what they see if they see a bunch of people standing around in old t-shirts
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and jeans and you know looking unkempt and drinking beer right from the can which isn't a
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bad thing but it's like if it looks like a drinking party we're not going to want it most of us are
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not going to want to hang out we're not going to come to your church thinking we're going to find
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what we need to feel spiritually fulfilled but when you look at women look at pictures of good
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looking dudes and good looking chicks all hanging out and smiling with lots of little kids running
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around women are going to be attracted to that so dress accordingly act accordingly and this
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was across the board it's not just men it's for women too and uh that is one of the best
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things we can do to attract more women in my opinion right
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jason you've got a couple questions here so i'm gonna try to answer them all in rapid fire
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It says, Brandy, love you in Baldur's Hof. Is there a gathering on the 29th? Yes. Winter
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Nights is going to be on the 29th from 10 to 6. Also, you ask, I'm really nervous about my first
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gathering event in my life. Can I get some inspiration on that subject? Again, we are
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perfectly normal, happy people. We are family friendly. We are very hospitable. Baldur's Hof
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has a reputation for being very hospitable, having great food and plenty of it and holding
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powerful bloats and the conversation will be great. So don't be nervous about anything. If
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you are nervous when you go into something like bloat or stumble, just follow the person in front
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of you. When we do bloats, we tend to walk you through the bloat so you know everything that's
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going on. So don't be nervous about that. And how do I convince my family that it's okay to
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attend Baldur's Hof for spiritual events. Show them pictures of the events. Have them watch the
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podcast. Have them watch anything that's on our YouTube channel. We have tons and tons of videos
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showing pictures of normal people having a good time worshiping their gods and sharing frith.
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And there's all kinds of videos. I would pull up the YouTube channel and show them the YouTube
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videos or show them one of the podcasts with the leadership. And do you have any insight in finding
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a female who's single and as a true well i would recommend starting in the afa we do have a few
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single ladies in the afa um you just got to look for them and be worthy of them so a young man
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looking for a young woman and vice versa a young woman looking for a young man um make sure that
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you are the best version of yourself make sure that you are emotionally spiritually physically
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financially, um, mentally prepared to have a partner. So a lot of the people in the AFA are
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very, very family oriented. We are very traditional minded. Um, and we are looking for our better
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halves. And when we say better halves, I mean for life. So make sure that you are your best version
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of yourself in order to attract that into your life. That's the best recommendation I have for
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that does any of the other ladies have any recommendations for jason about how to find
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a single lady who's as true you know i do anna anna was about to say something so i'll let her
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go first um i also have a recommendation for a family bring them to a hof
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um i brought you know my parents were at baldur's hof for my wedding and they're like oh well this
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this isn't okay this is like they're like oh all these people are nice looking and are nice and
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i i swear we almost had his mom about to join alan alan had almost charmed her into joining
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there's maybe one more dinner date with alan and would have been there alan's smooth though
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yeah he he is he's real smooth um as far as women because i i mean i did meet my husband in the afa
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just keep working on yourself you know find ways to work on yourself
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make connections along that building yourself line like get involved in the physical fitness
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group get involved in the spiritual excellence group start up conversations with people
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you're gonna have to put yourself out there but yep it's worth it you're gonna have to be those
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things that i asked of you before you need to be courageous you need to be strong and you need to
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be generous so you need to be courageous of spirit strong in body and generous of heart
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if you want to find a true as a true woman in the afa sheila do you have any recommendations
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on that for young folk looking for people? I would say that when you attend an event,
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make sure that especially the women get to see you, that they can evaluate you, be there,
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be one of the first people to volunteer to set up chairs or to pick up the garbage or anything else
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that needs to be done. That will make a lot of points. Don't just sail into an event and then
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leave as as you know time to do dishes that is one of the worst things you can do be a person who
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who gives value to the community and you will have people um putting you at the top of the list
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if there's anybody that they feel that would be a good match for you but yes as men you're going
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to find fewer women but be that better man you know that's certainly one thing also um
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try to bring um other relatives other friends around um and we all need to do that more so that
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we have a bigger group of people who experience us even if they decide not to join
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because they have something else going on they've experienced us they know you know we we
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are the people we say we are we have we live by our values and that we're a worthy community to
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join and help us build our reputation definitely i know i said i had to add something
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i'll go quickly i'll try to go quickly so when you said you were nervous about going to event
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outgoing person and you'll hear people say this and it's it it's never untrue walking into one
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of our Hoffs or you'll never feel more at home than when you walk into one of our Hoffs we say
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all the time it felt like I was coming home you really do feel like you're coming home because
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our people are friendly and because our hoffs have a wonderful energy and like you know it works
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because you walk in and it just works it just fits it feels like you've you finally found
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something you didn't even know you were looking for all this time um so don't be scared take the
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leap because it'll be so worth it for you to just come to an event i also want to um say as far as
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finding women goes, don't be pushy. Don't, when there's a single good-looking woman and she's the
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only one in the group, don't pounce on her because you will scare her away so fast. It happens all
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the time. I don't know how to say it better than that. Be patient. I met my husband through the
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AFA. My family is an AFA family and I had pretty much given up on the idea of finding an ostrich
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dude. I kind of just figured I'd have a Christian husband because that's how it would work and we'd
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have to figure out how to raise our children in both. And I was very lucky because I wasn't
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willing to settle. And if you're not willing to settle, if you're willing to wait until you find
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the person who works. It is worth it. Be patient. Don't settle, but also just don't rush it. Be
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patient. It's so important and don't pounce. That's all. That's very sound advice and probably
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the most sound advice is don't pounce. That's excellent. Thank you. So before we go for this
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evening. I want to wish Steve McNallan and I know all the other ladies here want to wish Steve
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McNallan, our founding father of Azitru and the Azitru Folk Assembly, we would like to wish you
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the happiest birthday. Thank you for all of your years of dedication and service to your gods and
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to your folk and to your church. We hope it is beautiful and we hope that you enjoy your day.
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so happy birthday to steve mcnallen on october 15th i would like everyone who can get on me
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we if you are in those me we groups and go into that odenshof message board raise a horn to steve
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on his birthday and send him a message please i bet he would appreciate it happy birthday steve
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happy birthday steve thank you and thank you for all you have done thank you
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Winter Nights 11 in Ohio, October 14th through the 16th.
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We'll get you in touch with the people that you need to if it's short notice and people are busy.
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It is not too late, even though the clock is ticking.
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so be there or be square be there be square all the cool kids are going to be there
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we'll be there in spirit send lots of pictures katie
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yes well that is all i think that's all the questions we got thank you ladies so much for
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coming on for spending literally four hours with me on a call just chatting
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it's talk about something scary this is so much easier yeah this is so much easier
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i appreciate all of you ladies spending so much time with us and answering all the questions to
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for your folk so have a great have a great week catch um victory never sleeps next week same time
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same place again everybody who is anybody is going to be on that podcast all right so until next time
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next wednesday hail the gods hail the folk hail the afa and remember victory never sleeps good