Asatru Folk Assembly - 10⧸16⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 119 - Rígsþula

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00:03:00.000 hello everyone i um i am so excited for tonight i hope everybody's doing well um we had a

00:03:17.780 awesome weekend this past weekend in the afa and uh but i'm super excited to get to this

00:03:25.640 and speak about this poem in specifics.

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00:03:55.640 All right, guys. So Spawn and myself and a number of our other leadership had an amazing time this last weekend celebrating winter nights at member Ron Folk Builder, newly oathed Folk Builder, Ron Boardman's property in New Hampshire.

00:04:20.660 It was an amazing, amazing weekend. Very special, very powerful. Great to meet folks that I have not met previous. And awesome to spend time with people that I have not seen in a little bit. It's a really good time.

00:04:38.260 thank you to the Boardman family both Ron and his wife and their children for having us at their

00:04:47.820 home for extending their hospitality and letting us experience their really special piece of

00:04:54.040 property they have there when you guys see some of the the pictures of the event I don't know if

00:05:00.480 Nick's got a group picture to throw up or if he may have any pictures of that hall Nick in the

00:05:06.760 next little bit here if you could round up a group picture of the group and if uh and also one of

00:05:13.080 maybe us inside the hall at the high table i know there are some of those out there

00:05:18.060 um my fault i could have prepped those a little bit better but i you'll see his hall that he has

00:05:24.720 there he built with his own hands has been there for 20 years serving as a special place for there

00:05:33.780 go nick's awesome there's both fawn and myself even though he is obscured by the horn

00:05:42.740 yeah so it's really it's a really cool spot and it's something the hall itself's been there for

00:05:46.820 20 years as of this year so that's quite an achievement in and of itself um yeah a really

00:05:54.020 really nice weekend um as far as event things go that's it oh and so the picture up now is his little

00:06:03.780 uh stalli outside for his with the tripartite

00:06:08.420 you guys can't see to the you're facing it to the left to your left is the all-father odin

00:06:18.860 middle also thor and on your right uh north rare uh so yeah it's really again very cool spot

00:06:29.660 wonderful event. Appreciate it. If you did not make it, or even if you did, we'd love to see you at

00:06:37.660 Feast of the Einherjar coming up in just under a month in South Dakota. So if that's something

00:06:46.000 you can do, we'd love to see you there. Great event. It is going to be the same spot we did

00:06:53.520 last year, which is a really nice location. So looking forward to seeing you guys at that one.

00:06:59.660 While we finish a couple more little top-of-the-show pieces of business, I would like to invite you, if you want to read along with us tonight, we will be reading the Riks Thule, and that's going to be the same place it always is, at beluspau.org.

00:07:20.060 And if you're reading at home, any version you got is going to be cool, and you're welcome to use it.

00:07:27.520 The one that we are using is the Bellows translation.

00:07:32.900 But as always, there's value and cool things you'll pick up using different ones.

00:07:41.020 So, yeah, you got that.

00:07:44.660 Also, Ronald Blake, welcome back.

00:07:48.120 we appreciate you once again showing the way with your generosity a hundred dollar donation

00:07:52.520 to the uh hurricane relief fund those you don't know we've got um afa men down there in

00:08:01.320 western north carolina helping with the disastrous conditions that hit those folks

00:08:11.680 Very proud of those guys.

00:08:14.220 It's being headed up by two of our folk builders, Tyler Heinlein and Tyler Bethea.

00:08:20.720 They're doing amazing work there.

00:08:24.780 So, yeah, I'm sure they will deeply appreciate that.

00:08:27.260 You guys have been exceedingly generous in donating towards that,

00:08:31.300 and your donations have made a big difference and gone a long ways.

00:08:34.040 Thank you for that.

00:08:35.200 Another note.

00:08:35.760 so actually up to this to this point nick give me an update on the side so far towards the

00:08:44.880 hurricane relief you guys have donated four thousand eight hundred and twenty five dollars

00:08:49.800 we've been running that for a week now slightly slightly over a week and that's that's amazingly

00:09:00.840 generous so thank you guys everybody very much another thing just give you some progress on it

00:09:05.460 didn't have these numbers for you two weeks ago when I was on the program. The New Yorkshoff

00:09:11.400 fund, or not fund, the effort to pay off New Yorkshoff. Here's where we are at. We are at 68.2%.

00:09:19.800 We've got it whittled down to $77,896. Seems like a lot, but it's very little considering.

00:09:32.760 we paid off a ton you guys have been amazing just kind of a note so people have it in perspective

00:09:39.160 if every afa member paid 102 towards it today it would be done paid for owned by the afa and we'd

00:09:48.360 be on to planning for phrase off so that's where we're at on that and thank you to everybody who

00:09:55.000 has contributed there as well with that and i don't know if i just mentioned this i meant to

00:10:03.000 uh the two tyler's that i mentioned who are working on the hurricane situation there are

00:10:07.720 going to be on the program next week to kind of talk about that that experience what they've been

00:10:12.520 up to so i look forward to that and that will be on our next show but the rigs thula is a

00:10:19.000 weighty tome so we're going to try to power through tonight where we can um we'll make

00:10:26.920 some decisions if we start getting close to it because we're not going to rush it it's really

00:10:30.440 important um but we may run long tonight going ahead and covering all of it so so you guys are

00:10:38.800 aware um i think that's all of our uh top of the top of the show stuff to go through

00:10:46.760 if we are set and ready spawn what do folks need to know before we dig into the meat of this

00:10:57.300 oh well uh i wanted to say just briefly uh i was here about this weekend um it really

00:11:05.620 invigorated me um i think that you know even though we had some uh colder weather you know

00:11:13.760 was and it was warm during the day cold at night um i got to meet a lot of great people and have

00:11:20.000 a lot of great conversations with folks and it really did kind of i don't know stir more up and

00:11:28.240 get me thinking about things and and um you know realizing that vns um really has helped folks come

00:11:39.600 to uh learning about the lore a little bit better and deeper has really uh it it threw me for a

00:11:48.800 loop i didn't i didn't you know i didn't realize so i i want to say thanks to all the folks that

00:11:54.800 came out and i got a chance to talk to and i also think to the mead hall being able to

00:12:00.560 To say a Fornidis Laug poem in the Mead Hall was pretty nice. I think it's that perfect

00:12:10.140 balance between, I don't think that the Mead Hall was built with the intention of LARPing

00:12:18.120 as our ancestors is the best way I could put it. I think it's more a testament to our unity

00:12:24.260 together it has all kinds of you know flags from the um the ancestral lines it's very pan-european

00:12:32.980 um you know in those pictures people can see from scotland to france um and all the way around and

00:12:39.140 some of the family um lineage of the boardsmen boardmans um were present there um and then you

00:12:48.740 know but it had an old wood stove like um you know uh it it was the perfect balance let me say

00:12:56.340 that wood stove very effectively it was very effective at heating the space yes a couple

00:13:02.260 times i saw you i had to take off layers because it was so effective i can only take off so many

00:13:11.300 layers before before yeah before impropriety um no it it was amazing and again i i know that

00:13:22.100 we as a church fully function forward in modern times and we present ourselves in modern western

00:13:31.860 clothes um with you know western civilization and and the culture that it is it is produced

00:13:39.300 there was a couple folks that wore um older um more traditional clothing of of ages and i thought

00:13:47.780 that was interesting um you know for a little bit but it was it was that perfect blend of um

00:13:56.020 kind of nodding our head and giving thanks to the cultural perhaps they could be considered costume

00:14:04.180 now cultural costume of our ancestors and of our of our people while at the same time

00:14:12.420 embracing the the forward and i think that really showed um that weekend um just by

00:14:20.260 all of the the placement and and everything um so i just wanted to throw that out there and also to

00:14:29.300 ronald i haven't forgotten about you i'm still working on the thing you will know when it arrives

00:14:37.460 when uh when um you know that i i sent it for you um um before you get going uh gw farnsworth

00:14:49.300 very loyal uh donor here on the program thank you very much bought us five coffees it's a

00:14:54.420 25 donation we appreciate it very very much thank you

00:15:01.380 yeah i i um you know speaking about the the touchy subject of um dressing in our ancestral garb or

00:15:12.260 i would call cultural costume of our ancestors i think it has its place and it can be important

00:15:20.500 but it is certainly not the mainstay of the auspicious folk assembly by any stretch of the

00:15:24.660 means we have completely gone forward with our western civilization um uh cultural um

00:15:34.500 garb you know everything from wearing certain types of hats that are specifically of our people

00:15:40.580 and collared shirts and and petticoats and overcoats and all of those things trying to

00:15:46.340 to harken back to, or at least bring back the, um, the desire for our people to not just accept,

00:15:54.960 you know, the Walmart sludge that seems to be acceptable sometimes. Not saying everybody,

00:16:03.020 you know, can't relax, but you know, there's a time and a place. Um, but it was really nice

00:16:09.760 to see kind of all of that convergence going on and it was balanced enough to where i didn't feel

00:16:18.640 that we were being disingenuous by our convictions um there was a a kind of perfect balance of um

00:16:27.600 respect towards our past and i could look around and see folks most folks you know dressed for

00:16:35.040 camping some folks dressed in ties and collared shirts and then like one or two um you know still

00:16:43.040 dawning uh really historically accurate um cultural costume um and i you know and i think

00:16:53.600 pre-christianity in in the european sense so um really really good and to be able to speak a poem

00:17:01.680 in the in the mead hall and and hear everyone's stories during sumble it was it was great and i

00:17:08.480 really really uh hope that folks can come out to other national events if you have one near you

00:17:15.440 and definitely winter nights is just particularly special it's a good night for everyone involved

00:17:24.080 fantastic so uh rigstula um so rigstula is an interesting poem we've already spoken about

00:17:41.480 how snorri um has kind of sprinkled in hellenic or hellenicism the classic

00:17:50.660 you know, poems of the age. And we've already talked about how Harbarth's Ljodh is

00:18:00.520 possibly influenced by Slavic tales. In particular, the conflict of divine forces between,

00:18:11.460 For them, you know, Veles and Perun. And again, we see that playing out a little bit, even though the emphasis on our God's holy thrones are different than theirs.

00:18:28.140 Um, with Riggs, I have a tendency to agree to some point that there is perhaps a Gaulish influence in this poem, uh, the way that it's written.

00:18:45.880 um though i think they go a little far saying that rig means uh is is originally a

00:18:54.280 gaulish name and not a nordic name um but there there is elements to this and again it shows

00:19:04.240 not a deficiency but an absolute um entwining of our people and i think that

00:19:13.360 are the different branches of european arians have um really influenced each other culturally

00:19:21.520 even back then so uh rigstula is very well written and uh and it has that kind of uh

00:19:31.200 more of a gaulish flair to it that you might not see present in other poems but it goes beyond

00:19:38.960 that the structuring of the poem is generally looked at as being from denmark especially

00:19:48.400 because the the poem is actually incomplete the end of the poem cuts off swiftly and uh there

00:19:55.440 is mentions of the danes or perhaps the the foundry of the danes um and if anybody's uh

00:20:04.160 you know well versed in beowulf um it is mentioned that the danes kick out the wolflings

00:20:11.680 um from denmark and zealand so they're coming into power uh you know most likely was post bronze age

00:20:21.040 and um so kind of trying to place where this um uh poem might have been constructed we certainly

00:20:31.280 have the location in mind but continentally um the baltic i mean the baltic um um amber trade routes

00:20:43.360 that were up in that area and moved down through both germany and the gaulish territories i 100

00:20:51.120 believe that there was some influencing of the the the bards to the skulls of of the the north

00:21:00.960 and um you can really kind of see that in here um

00:21:07.520 and and again it's always relayed as being the story that explains the classes of the vikings

00:21:14.800 there's the thrall and the carl and the jarl or the the slave though more likely it would be viewed

00:21:23.440 as like the serf um and the free man and and the um uh aristocratic class um and you know generally

00:21:36.560 it's written off that way but the house of true folk assembly looks at this very differently

00:21:44.400 because there are key components that make it worth i mean you can't actually that's not even

00:21:50.400 worth you can't look away from the the these tiny little flags telling you there's there's something

00:21:57.120 more going on here and once you consider it from being a believer in the gods and knowing

00:22:05.280 that the gods are here and they are real the the value of the story suddenly becomes reinvigorated

00:22:13.600 um and again the keywords and flags that you will see uh kind of popping up are very very

00:22:19.920 important this goes beyond the classes of the the viking um or northman i should say of the northman

00:22:29.920 um social structure and sorry by the way i use viking sometimes just because it's

00:22:36.560 it's a default that people can immediately you know key in on but yeah the northman

00:22:43.440 um it goes beyond that and i think it goes even beyond um

00:22:50.640 the composing of the poem i think the poem most likely was composed in denmark but i do believe

00:22:57.200 the story has application towards all kings or chieftains of our people and i think ultimately

00:23:06.000 i would argue that this story goes all the way back with us um that this story

00:23:12.160 comes all the way to our origins um as folk um and there is that interplay there between

00:23:20.840 the the white house lord heimdall and the folk and wherever they are is it's not truly mentioned

00:23:29.940 other than you know by the sea and in certain living conditions um i am a firm believer that

00:23:38.860 this connection and the reasoning behind why Heimdall, Heimdottler is chosen as, you know,

00:23:53.540 or excuse me, he has chosen us. That reasoning and his name, or the title that he has chosen

00:24:02.120 to be known by have significance the home dale and the home light um and we'll we'll divulge more

00:24:10.280 into that later but there is much more than what you might just simply read in a header or on uh

00:24:17.160 volaspow.org or on like a wikipedia page and so far as i know no one outside of the house of true

00:24:25.160 folk assembly has really um presented this and i think it's a key component of our church

00:24:31.480 and it is you know one of the most pivotal poems um outside of the the volus bow and uh the gil

00:24:44.120 beginning and um grimness model this is probably like if there was if there was four poems

00:24:53.560 that i would say everyone should folk focus on it it would be this those the gil beginning

00:24:59.240 the Volusbau, Grimnismal, and Rigsdula.

00:25:10.680 All right. Well, whenever you are ready, we can go ahead and start folks out.

00:25:17.080 Okay. For all the folks, let's see, getting ready to go.

00:25:25.160 Okay.

00:25:25.560 um the header here is we have seen headers on other poems but this one immediately

00:25:42.840 reeks of of an ancient epicness that um permeates throughout the entirety so it's very short but has

00:25:54.120 just such a profound and heavy weight to it um

00:26:00.920 and it's also worth noting too the icelanders were not um really prevalent to um monarchy um

00:26:11.960 and i you know i have some theories on that as well but the the the fact that it was composed

00:26:17.960 there um and was probably spoken of there and the idea that aristocracy is an element that's

00:26:26.120 kind of lauded in the story um that lends to not only were the icelanders you know they they were

00:26:36.200 uh privy to the story and the understanding of it but that it goes farther back than just say the

00:26:43.240 the kings of norway like harold fairhair or um you know or bluetooth but um

00:26:51.480 that it goes even further back and you can kind of see those elements especially the gaulishness

00:26:57.160 um right in here in the beginning uh they tell in old stories that one of the gods

00:27:08.280 whose name was heimdall went on his way along a certain seashore and came to a dwelling

00:27:16.440 where he called himself rig according to these stories is the following poem

00:27:24.840 so right out the gate i i you know it's it's ambiguous though it is um

00:27:32.840 it doesn't deny the godhood of the gods it's it's kind of set up to speak of ages old um so there's

00:27:46.520 not a lot of you hemorrizing of heimdall you know in this this beginning but it just it hearkens

00:27:54.920 back and this is the poem um according to these stories and i think that's really important for

00:28:01.400 people to know is our poems come from stories and they were comprised with purpose based according

00:28:12.840 to poetic laws and rules um so this poem is from those stories passed down um and you're gonna

00:28:25.480 notice too there's a couple of pieces missing and of course the back end of the poem is missing

00:28:29.960 is because the the manuscript that this is written in those parts were lost so this is

00:28:37.400 incomplete and it was not in a very good um state um let's see uh starting out with number one

00:28:52.200 men say they went by the ways so green of the of old the god the aged and the wise mighty and strong

00:29:06.980 did rig go striding and then you can see there's some some uh disjointment there because that's

00:29:16.080 that's um lost the the stanza's incomplete it doesn't have a fourth sentence um or it's you know

00:29:22.880 illegible um and in two he says all right it is it is said forward he went on the midmost way

00:29:33.360 he came to a dwelling a door on its posts in did he fare on the floor was a fire

00:29:41.840 So right off the bat, there's some things to consider.

00:29:58.420 um speaking of his strength the name rig also has uh reference to the lifting of things there

00:30:13.540 is an old norse word rica which means to lift um or to um press high above your head to to bear up

00:30:23.860 to raise up or lift up with great strength and i think that's pertinent right out of the gate what

00:30:30.640 this story truly is about with great strength he's going to lift up um our people because

00:30:41.560 Because in this sense here, with Aoi, excuse me, Aoi or Ada, Aoi and Ada are grandmother, or excuse me, great-grandfather and great-grandmother.

00:31:00.460 So that's the first flag letting you know, this is not simply a class situation. We have references to time. And again, Lord Heimdall is often connected to time with the growing of the grass, with hearing the hair grow on a sheep's back.

00:31:23.800 these are all references to the spanning of time um it has been you know my suggestion though

00:31:31.840 when we're talking about like calendars and i we do have the iron mark that's um practiced by some

00:31:39.160 folks as you know the calendar timekeeping um that uh instead of loggers dog there is

00:31:48.940 heimdallstag or heimdall's day um again that the presence of time that's often always mentioned

00:31:57.340 with lord heimdall and um also it kind of goes in juxtaposition to some of the people that

00:32:05.000 on the internet try to take loggerstag the wash day and turn it into you know the kinslayer's day

00:32:12.800 And I think it's only fitting that we kind of juxtapose that, but there are references clearly to Lord Heimdall being connected to time.

00:32:26.440 And at this point, he steps out of the stasis throne and moves into the dynamic and he goes the mid most way, which is of course, mid guard.

00:32:42.800 So he goes through the threshold of heaven and enters now into the middle world or the Midgard, the place of time and material.

00:32:57.220 And he finds himself on a seashore and he goes there and the doors are on the posts.

00:33:02.780 I always thought that was an interesting point to make, that at least the door was framed and it was holding threshold.

00:33:09.640 It had a certain sense of guardianship. I don't know. I mean, I've thought about that possibly being symbolic as well, is that the entry for Lord Heimdall Azrig was not easy.

00:33:25.860 and that he needed to break another threshold in order to come into the realm or the existence of great-grandfather and great-grandmother.

00:33:40.740 so he he says that his name is rig the strong one the one that lifts up and um

00:33:48.980 the he speaks of the the hoary-ness the the idea of them being um just dirty and grimy and

00:33:58.900 um not very you know uh well kept and their hearth is you know dug in the middle of the floor

00:34:07.060 um and again in olden dress so this is kind of referencing to especially to the audience the

00:34:14.180 audience um our ancestors knew that there was an older dress of their time and um you know they they

00:34:24.900 could conceptualize that so but to how far exactly you know we don't know but in three

00:34:31.860 Rigg knew well wise words to speak. Soon in the midst of the room he sat, on either side the others were.

00:34:46.660 A loaf of bread did Ada bring, heavy and thick and swollen with husks.

00:34:55.340 forth on the table she set the fair and broth for meal in a bowl there was

00:35:03.300 calves fresh boiled was the best of the dainties

00:35:09.380 so a couple of things about that is

00:35:15.660 we're we're they're speaking of the true nature of the gods and the divine

00:35:24.760 um a lot of people hear the words wise or wisdom and they immediately i think it's a knee jerk or

00:35:31.960 elbow jerk reaction to kind of folly back to um monotheism i think it's it's got this the

00:35:41.080 the uh the sense that a lot of folks need to immediately place into um tiny little holes or

00:35:51.480 scholarly little frameworks oh no that's it's got to be lord othen um but you know the the

00:36:00.840 ausentra folk assembly looks as the gods as gods they're they are gods and they move and they do

00:36:06.680 things and this doesn't just stay with one or two of the gods um and so you know the the suggestion

00:36:19.000 that this is lord othen and not heimdall i think was proposed um at some some point i can't exactly

00:36:28.040 remember who proposed it um but i i i think it's misleading and also of ill worth um to kind of

00:36:38.680 say that only again it has to be lord othen um you know there's this this sense of of like

00:36:47.080 Like, everything really just boils down to Lord Oven.

00:36:52.060 And, you know, we're at another one of these points.

00:36:56.880 And I'm going to encourage you, Svon.

00:36:59.720 You are fully entitled to speak with authority on these things.

00:37:04.140 It's not just kind of, you know, maybe a misunderstanding or we tend to disagree.

00:37:08.800 They're wrong.

00:37:10.660 This is why they're wrong.

00:37:13.120 We are polytheists.

00:37:14.240 We have many gods.

00:37:15.640 All of our gods are mighty and have tremendous amount of agency and concern for our folk, the tribe of our people, our race.

00:37:27.840 Just because something good happens from the realm of divinity doesn't mean we need to boil it down to just one.

00:37:35.940 And that's a really toxic tendency that we have in the modern world to do that. 0.92

00:37:41.020 you've seen a progression in hinduism to move everything to all the gods being kind of the 0.99

00:37:50.240 reflection of just one like super you know the supreme godhead as i think they would call it

00:37:57.220 um we have a tendency to do that and it's an old tendency it's not a new thing

00:38:04.020 but it kind of colors the way we look at things it's much cleaner and easier

00:38:09.660 to pretend that all the gods are just some different face of odin and so that's super

00:38:18.160 clear it's super simple and it abdicates our responsibility to try to determine to whom we

00:38:27.320 owe thanks for certain things and i think that's dishonorable to many of our gods that end up

00:38:36.120 getting minimized, left out,

00:38:38.020 and forgotten in that process,

00:38:40.280 that's also intellectually lazy,

00:38:41.940 and I don't think that's fair.

00:38:46.060 So yeah,

00:38:47.520 Rhee is Lord Heimdottler. 1.00

00:38:51.660 That is, that is truth,

00:38:54.220 that is truth since he gave wisdom and development

00:39:01.000 to our ancient ancestors,

00:39:03.480 that remains true today,

00:39:05.180 and efforts to try to make it something different.

00:39:10.420 I think at best,

00:39:12.560 they are a misguided academic attempt

00:39:16.620 to make things make more sense.

00:39:19.060 And I think at worst, they are a dishonest ploy

00:39:21.880 to have a new hot take on something, as the kids say.

00:39:28.920 Well, and there's other things that lend to this.

00:39:31.580 We understand that when I talk about the tripartite

00:39:34.700 the thrones there's a an ability for all of the divine all of the holy gods to move into certain

00:39:42.060 thrones whether it's static or dynamic or catalystic and those those thrones are just

00:39:49.100 descriptors that i try to frame things in in order for people to better understand stuff and

00:39:56.380 but the idea is that they're not stuck in these uh perhaps they're fulfilling um great and cosmic

00:40:04.300 obligation in in these thrones but um you know clearly with each peoples there might be a

00:40:11.260 different emphasis the stasis throne might have a a more of an emphasis amongst the uh slavs or um

00:40:20.460 you know um the the hellenics you know they may look at the catalystic nature as being more

00:40:26.780 important um but uh you know i mean i i think the biggest thing for people to get from this

00:40:37.180 if they have a hard time wrapping their head around it if they're still listening to those

00:40:41.900 people in the periphery who are as you said wrong um this is probably the most comparative sense

00:40:52.460 is a gifting to humanity with divine knowledge and the only thing i could think of that immediately

00:41:00.460 that people might understand this is is in parallel to a the prometheus story or a promethean

00:41:08.860 and the promethean title is even understood as being part of the arian myth cycle um and so

00:41:18.460 lord heimdallar coming down does not break away from any sort of normalcy and i think it's more

00:41:28.060 abnormal yeah when these guys are saying oh no it's gotta be old and it's gotta be old and

00:41:33.020 they start switching people or you know switching names switching gods around in the stories just

00:41:39.340 to fit that yeah so we have a we have a tendency and i think a lot of the time we do it unconsciously

00:41:49.660 and i think it is a scholastic inheritance that we have in the literate west but we

00:42:01.260 we start out with a preconceived format and then we try to

00:42:09.340 subconsciously force our gods to fit our conception instead of force ourselves to with, you know, ever more perfection to greater understand the gods as they are, not as, you know, anthropologist slash scholar told us they are.

00:42:34.320 and i say that not because there's something inherently wrong with study but it's the field

00:42:42.200 of study if you're accepting the gods the way they are because a gothi told you

00:42:46.460 that's the order of things and it makes sense if you're accepting real gods that you believe in

00:42:55.300 or that you claim to have belief in by the like academic theories of someone who is not does not

00:43:07.020 have a belief in the reality of our gods it's it's fundamentally kind of wrongheaded so a lot

00:43:14.000 of stuff you can learn there but our gods can do what they want and we are under no

00:43:18.340 you know they're under no obligation to conform to our limited understanding of what we think

00:43:25.120 their jobs are. And I think that a fair evaluation of that makes sense. And something else I'd like

00:43:32.960 to mention about this poem, and I want to get into it because we're not even really into the

00:43:35.920 meat of it, but some things are kind of getting said at the outlay of it, and I think it's

00:43:40.260 important. We have come to an understanding of a lot of these things because information has

00:43:48.500 already been processed and regurgitated to us. And then we parrot that regurgitated information

00:43:57.520 without thought. We all do it. We're all guilty of it. We all start with a lot of that as our

00:44:04.460 default. And that's not a wrong place to be. But when you realize you are there, it's always

00:44:12.280 valuable to view it with fresh eyes i don't believe that a person without the need to

00:44:20.840 make this conform to a dumazilian um structuring of aryan society would take that as the fundamental

00:44:31.320 meaning of this poem once uh dumazil laid that out we can see obvious parallels that make sense in

00:44:40.200 that but a fair-minded reading of this if you didn't already have the preconception

00:44:45.960 especially with the naming of all of the couples involved and their children as this progresses

00:44:53.160 is clearly a process over the course of time it's not just a promethean stealing of divine

00:45:01.560 and and i think that that's part of a similar concept but i think the fundamentals are really

00:45:06.760 different stealing from the gods and like transgressing by giving it to mortals is very

00:45:14.600 different than the way this story is laid out and one of the beauties in this is it's not like

00:45:20.280 hey i'm trafficking stolen goods to you do whatever you want with it it is a generational

00:45:27.680 over the course of time tutoring and teaching and instructing and a process they don't go from

00:45:36.740 you know knuckle draggers to space in because they got this magic thing

00:45:45.980 no over time they develop and they mature and they evolve and they become and they learn and

00:45:53.840 they grow and you see that throughout this the generational nature of it the process of it is

00:46:00.860 self-evident, I think, to any fair reading of it. So I think that's important to bear in mind as we

00:46:07.880 go through it. Yeah, I wanted to address too, the wolf throne said, Matt's roasting spawn. And

00:46:14.960 I think, I think it's worth noting, I think that Azharagoth is kind of just covered a little bit

00:46:21.780 too. He's encouraging that the hard work and diligence and pious thought and prayer in going

00:46:29.000 forward with our lore demands a certain sense of making sure that I stand on, you know,

00:46:38.160 speak with authority. At the same time, you know, we don't want you to, you folk, we don't want you

00:46:45.840 to just simply regurgitate. We want you to ingest and be nourished off the idea and to ruminate on

00:46:55.160 and speak about it and ask questions about it um so there's that kind of that reservation that i

00:47:00.960 have is in a sense more lent towards that i i'm not attempting to find sound bites for you guys

00:47:08.520 to just be able to rattle off but to have these great considerations and i know dealing with the

00:47:13.760 gods there is a a huge sense of making sure that uh the the pious line is not uh overcrossed but

00:47:22.640 the same time as ergo the is always pushing us to be better so and spawns nice and spawn deserves to

00:47:34.160 hold his head up to kick his chest out and walk with little pep in his step um

00:47:40.720 so my my roasting of spawn is to try to try to elevate spawn uh not not anything else um

00:47:48.240 But, yeah, I think that he delivers his wisdom to us in a very humble way.

00:47:56.500 And sometimes I want to cut through with some clarity and make, you know, just make real clear.

00:48:03.820 We don't know everything at all, not even close.

00:48:09.220 There are things that we do know, and I don't just think it's an entitlement to say something and speak on it when we know.

00:48:16.600 but as gothar i think it is an obligation for us to do so when we know something to be true

00:48:22.820 and so i want to make sure that we do that is is kind of my my motivation

00:48:27.700 excuse me they also they speak of a simple fare of veal or or um

00:48:40.620 calf flesh that is that is boiled and it says the best of the dainties but it they're really

00:48:49.240 referring to um again the the finest of the fair that um great grandfather and great grandmother

00:48:58.120 could offer up to their guests um but again it is worth noting and i i wanted to wait till later to

00:49:06.200 to bring this up but again if we are speaking about the generations of the folk if ask and

00:49:13.760 if you know awi and eda and avi and amma and you know father and mother are this is a generational

00:49:26.960 point it's really worth noting that the invitation of heim dollar is not

00:49:35.600 in the sense being perceived solely and i would argue that our ancestors understood this

00:49:41.280 that this was a kind of a parallel story of understanding the class of of the folk or the

00:49:50.320 idea of what they can be um and what they can become and an understanding of you know social

00:49:57.840 structures um but they invited him in i would like to get back to the meat of the story a little bit

00:50:09.840 before we wade further right into breaking it down because it's always tricky to know when to throw

00:50:15.280 that in when not we'll get to a bunch of it but i did want to say i see kevin over in the chat room

00:50:20.080 i haven't seen him in a few weeks uh kevin while we have you so you know we've been trying to do

00:50:26.400 research into thorstein guthufn which you mentioned to us earlier you were one who brought him to our

00:50:34.640 attention uh witten erickson also brought him to our attention a while back and we've been digging

00:50:40.880 we've been able to find much more information than we had previous but if you have information

00:50:47.040 or resources if he could reach out to us on the side or let nick know or myself know um we are

00:50:53.920 currently trying to uh learn all that we can about that gentleman and we would you know we're very

00:51:02.720 open to learning more if you have have knowledge or perspective on that yeah i'm really hoping my

00:51:08.320 sister can find his grave i mean we have its location so um hopefully she can go and if she

00:51:16.560 took a picture and sent it to us it would be awesome yeah um if we have anybody else listening

00:51:21.920 to this program that happens to be in Reykjavik we'd love it if you would go and take a picture

00:51:27.600 of his grave also and we can get you set up with that if that's something that you're willing to do

00:51:30.960 i think it'd be really interesting that said let's get back to the text okay yeah uh there's another

00:51:37.600 point in here in stanza four i wanted to bring up i don't know some people might get it but some

00:51:43.680 people might not so i wanted to bring it up the loaf of bread that's heavy and thick and swollen

00:51:51.360 with husks is clearly a statement of technological advancement the the the husks of the wheat or the

00:52:00.880 or the rye or the corn the the corn kernel uh corn in the sense of like a seed um being in the bread

00:52:10.320 is one marker and you will see this again throughout the poem there's other markers

00:52:15.600 that indicate technological advancement and that's one of them so the the bread is is heavy

00:52:22.560 and it's got lots of you know the husks in it and um it's just seen as as unrefined but nonetheless

00:52:31.040 they invite the divine into their home and they share the best of what they have and the fact

00:52:39.440 that the suit is made of calf is clearly speaking sometimes in the in some sense uh they're portrayed

00:52:49.600 in the when people tell this story they're portrayed as as um more cave-like but it is

00:52:56.320 worth noting that in the story it's clearly stating that you know they they have the ability

00:53:01.680 to hold over they have they have um fail they have um cattle they have some riches but they're and

00:53:09.680 they're learning um and so they they kill or have killed a small calf to give him the best of food

00:53:20.160 because killing a a a young cow is a huge sacrifice um

00:53:28.880 because you're losing all the potential of what it could be um and they give it over to the divine

00:53:37.580 and so then we see a repeat again from three and five and everybody that's been following

00:53:45.320 vns knows this of course is skaldic meter um and a way to memorize you know if i say these lines

00:53:53.120 this many times it roadmaps the the skull where they are in the poem um and that then they know

00:54:02.760 so they base sections of the other parts of the poem onto these repetitive prose um

00:54:11.360 so in five it says rig knew well wise words to speak thence did he rise and made ready to sleep

00:54:21.440 soon in the bed himself did he lay and on either side the others were

00:54:26.940 and I mean I guess that's since we're switching to the next um line you you'll find degenerates

00:54:35.680 kind of um lending this towards the idea of some sort of impropriety completely throwing out the

00:54:44.820 notion of the names and who we're talking about that that great grandmother and great grandfather

00:54:53.620 have the strong one who is who lifts up lying between them is in essence that this

00:55:02.580 is stating that the lifting up is going to go unilaterally it's going to go to the male and

00:55:10.100 the female of the folk and um you know i i don't want to beat a drum on it but it's just it's

00:55:16.980 disheartening to see sometimes when people speak of things like this without considering all of the

00:55:23.220 other parameters around it um the the invitation of the divine and then the equal spread of the

00:55:32.100 divine between men and women raising them both up um and it lends again to you know the perfect man

00:55:43.780 and the perfect woman um are the ultimate goals and we'll see more of that when we start listing

00:55:50.820 things that are not well not liked and kind of hanging out there as reminders that you should

00:55:58.900 not be this way that you you should be higher than this so in six thus was he there for three nights

00:56:08.420 long then forward he went on the mid most way and so nine months were soon passed so of course

00:56:19.300 again the dynamic number and i i believe that a lot of the confusion um in relation to lord

00:56:25.860 odin and lord heimdall is that lord heimdall is and has entered the dynamic he is in the

00:56:33.300 the usually symbolized in the number three and so he stays there and then he moves away

00:56:40.180 and the culmination of nine months again is the multiplication of three um and he he leaves um

00:56:50.580 And born of great-grandmother and great-grandfather are these children.

00:56:59.940 So, seven, a son bore Ada.

00:57:04.320 With water they sprinkled him. 0.79

00:57:06.400 Again, Ausavatni is far older than the Christianization version of baptizing children,

00:57:17.360 especially considering that's up to debate with the idea of, you know, baptizing full-grown, you know, adults or what have you.

00:57:29.400 Again, I think it's really a heavy lend on the Catholic Church being just heavily paganized or in their construction.

00:57:40.900 Yeah, I'd like to throw this out there while we have a second.

00:57:47.360 The idea of taking an infant, sprinkling water on them, and affixing a name to them is nothing like baptism as described in the Bible.

00:58:06.040 In the Bible, grown men went out into a body of water and were fully emerged because that was the whole idea.

00:58:12.800 they were being born again by coming up out of the waters as a new person it's a very different

00:58:20.400 function religiously the idea of affixing a name by the sprinkling of water on an infant

00:58:27.760 has zero to do with biblical christianity and is something that is a direct evolution of

00:58:35.280 our people's customs but there's water and then there's water so cool let's make this work one

00:58:44.640 of the things about the evolution and entrenchment of early catholicism in medieval europe is this

00:58:52.480 co-opting of pagan tradition in order to liken it to a christian concept to convert the masses

00:59:02.080 of our ancestors and they did that very effectively um the other thing i'd like to say

00:59:09.760 we also have a tendency because of similar traditions as far as you know

00:59:17.120 our cultural touchstone of how we see religion being biblical we approach

00:59:24.000 the stories of our gods as if they're biblical text and the premise is very different there's not

00:59:36.460 even this is even stated at the beginning the old stories of our gods say this and this is a

00:59:45.820 retelling of that there's clearly not a premise of and then the divine presence of the all father

00:59:53.060 came over me and and he guided my pen to write these things that's that didn't need to be

01:00:00.980 specified because that's one of those of course not unless otherwise stated so to try to digest

01:00:08.900 this literally and to see it in a carnal sex act way

01:00:25.620 doesn't really make biological sense and it doesn't it misses the point

01:00:32.260 it's not that oh look this you know this kid's he's like jesus a guy came down and impregnated

01:00:40.340 that's that's not the point what the point is is through our virtue of hospitality 0.55

01:00:46.960 this great-grandfather and great-grandmother accepted the iser into their home into their

01:00:56.940 relationship, they built their coupling and their home and their union with the iser as a component

01:01:06.840 of that. Through inviting Heimdallr into their bed, into their marriage, into their home, 0.96

01:01:14.740 to share in their in their uh marriage to share in their rearing of a family

01:01:23.840 they were gifted with this upward evolution of our people and we see this throughout it's the

01:01:33.420 idea of making and we see this a lot in modern house of truth people have some idea of oh your

01:01:39.500 family's got to come first. Your relationship's got to come first. That's wrongheaded. It's not

01:01:44.660 about that. There's not a first to do life right. These things synergize because they are dependent

01:01:52.960 upon one another. That's one of the reasons, and this kind of comes full circle in the Asavatmi,

01:01:59.860 the water sprinkling, being married in a hof by a gothi, inviting the iser to be part of that, 0.72

01:02:15.560 invoking them for fertility, giving them praise and honor and gifting them for the safe, 0.85

01:02:22.960 you know, entry of your child into the world, inviting them to be there and recognize this

01:02:28.920 child as you're naming them, being part of the raising of this child. All of these things,

01:02:38.980 building your life and your touchstones around religious observances and ceremonies and

01:02:43.920 milestones marked by your loyalty to the Iser and your involvement in the holistic nature of

01:02:52.240 gods and folk united and then ultimately passing beyond the veil with a service performed by a

01:03:00.700 gothi invoking the gods to help you in that passage and to welcome you into whatever finds you in the 0.91

01:03:09.220 afterlife those should be indivisible now we're in a time of conversion where people started off

01:03:20.880 as something else and are coming home to also true and the process is messier than in an ideal

01:03:25.600 situation but that's the ideal is that your marriage your life your rearing of children

01:03:32.560 your interaction in your communities you're inseparably intertwined with your faith and

01:03:41.120 your loyalty to the iceter one doesn't have to choose the one over the other it all goes together

01:03:47.920 and is all part of a cohesive well-lived life and that's the process here we see repeated

01:03:54.560 in the evolution of our folk towards ever greater nobility

01:04:05.040 well we see here that the birth comes with a listing of many things and it's worth noting

01:04:13.840 the way that um our ancestors and even to a large degree today um the the first and most important

01:04:25.120 thing as we move forward is thrall or or thrall uh or thright is um you know i've always kind of

01:04:35.280 focused more on the surf class and i think that the position of threat becomes more associated

01:04:46.240 with slavery or the the captured um uh you know war slaves and or just captured from raiding

01:04:56.160 um that becomes more prevalent as the social structure of our ancestors kind of moved up and

01:05:03.600 then you know the the the outsider is moved in and i think that that's missed in here because

01:05:11.520 uh bellows mentions some things and i think you know he's focusing on slave versus

01:05:19.520 surf and you know as we know the surf or the servant class of um the social structure came

01:05:29.520 in before it was like wow everybody's doing well so you know let's go raid and fight and grab

01:05:36.960 people you know and take them in and then they will be of the surf class um so that's worth noting

01:05:44.560 um so in seven a sun bore ada with water they sprinkled him with a cloth his hair so black

01:05:56.640 they covered they named him so the surf and again the black hair we know in our in our society one

01:06:09.360 of the big things um about blonde to like dark brown hair or black hair one is that it it's an

01:06:16.640 it's an idolized trait it's a trait amongst our folk it has connections to um youth and to beauty

01:06:25.280 and um so naturally they're they're placing these colorations and this hierarchy um and it's clear

01:06:34.700 it's based on desirable traits um and those desirable traits are are lent to our folk based

01:06:43.780 on um you know whether it's the exoticness of it or the um just the the rarity um or again

01:06:53.240 culturally based in the sense that it it does lend to you know uh the innocence of childhood and we

01:07:00.060 do know that our ancestors did dye their hair with lye in order to maintain that blonde uh coloring

01:07:07.960 so you know we see here that um you know it goes into more of the details that i you know i think

01:07:19.520 that would immediately be associated with the audience to have more um just not

01:07:28.720 something that possibly everyone has but it just gets kind of more um egregious in the in the way

01:07:34.640 that is is shaped um you know his the skin was wrinkled rough on his hands so we're not clearly

01:07:46.560 now well first off they were we're never talking about a baby but the idea is that you know this is

01:07:52.800 you know a a people or an evolution of a people um you know he's nodded his knuckles thick his

01:08:02.240 fingers ugly his face and twisted his back big his heels he began to grow and to gain in strength 0.99

01:08:12.560 and soon of his might good use he made with bast he bound and burdens he carried home bore faggots 0.99

01:08:22.080 the whole day long in ten one came to their home crooked her legs stained her feet and again i've 0.99

01:08:31.920 mentioned this before sunburned her arms flat was her nose her name was thief so looking at these 0.90

01:08:42.400 two nine and ten we start to see the characteristics of strike and then now he has the consort who is

01:08:51.600 in equal to him and all of these kind of listings are real you know the thick fingers the ugly

01:08:58.560 the ugly face the twisted back the curved back you know big heels and um you know just built to uh

01:09:08.080 you know, carry large sticks back and forth to the fireplace and sooty and ruddy. And then his

01:09:19.840 consort has the, you know, the ruddy skin on her arms and she has a crooked or flattened nose 1.00

01:09:29.380 versus, again, the beauty standard of our ancestors was to have that straight 0.93

01:09:35.800 uh nose um and to have you know a slight nose and so they're showing these comparisons

01:09:42.740 so you clearly can see that our ancestors were very clear about preferenced beauty standards

01:09:50.920 um and you know i i hear a lot of uh you know like universalists and people that

01:09:59.680 Norse Pagans they try to like squirm and shift around this and uh clearly and it gets it gets

01:10:06.980 more so as we go um and her name was was uh fear and fear is is a a woman who carries 0.97

01:10:19.480 um things she is the the servant lady um 0.64

01:10:25.620 so let's see here in 11

01:10:31.520 soon in the midst of the room she sat by her side there sat the son of the house so now

01:10:42.480 Thraith and Thir are together. And they whispered both and the bed made ready and Thraith and Thir till the day was through. So we immediately start to leave Awi and Eda out. And now this shows this new kind of evolution of the lowest form of the folk.

01:11:10.740 and um but there's they're they're still together they're still in love they speak you know in the

01:11:17.260 night and um then they lay together and they have children in 12 children they had they lived and

01:11:25.060 were happy fiosnir and clur they were called methinks now i like this and that's one of the

01:11:34.100 that part right there really lends to gaulish tradition the kind of the the the fact that the

01:11:44.420 scald or the bard is it's written in that he's even recollecting um and for that brief moment

01:11:52.620 it breaks the wall um that is one of the parts of why people speak about this one having that

01:12:00.500 that influence so i'd like to make one correction because i think it's important

01:12:06.740 you mentioned this being the lowest form of our folk and and that's not even in a in a

01:12:13.300 like critical sense it's just in a in a factual statement but it's not this is a step above that

01:12:22.820 lowest form of our folk is below this is something and the poem doesn't describe it

01:12:29.060 but we have to imagine something less differentiated something more bestial than this something

01:12:37.140 less elevated so this is the first step on that stairway towards nobility uh that stairway

01:12:45.300 towards our destiny this is that first step of becoming more than we were right yeah you are

01:12:52.660 correct the um no you're i know what you're doing but i think that the just for the audience right

01:12:59.140 just so they realize as clearly brutish of a picture as this paints of this stage of our

01:13:09.700 ancestors this is one step above what they were before lord handler came and shared their table

01:13:21.060 and shared their bed and became part of their family yeah and it's that observation of the one

01:13:29.540 who sits on heaven's mountains who sits in heaven looking down uh not through the well but uh but

01:13:38.900 but of his own account and um you know and and does project the light of the gods through himself

01:13:46.420 prismatically um the the walker of bivrost and uh the holder of the bridge and he descends down

01:13:54.340 after observing these uh yeah the the the forms i yeah i meant lowest in the sense of the story but

01:14:02.260 yeah the the idea of seeing this progression and then now coming down and instigating making

01:14:11.780 making this movement um i guess it could be even argued too that that uh lord heimdall is moving

01:14:20.300 into a catalystic throne um in the sense that he is instigating and breaking stagnation um

01:14:27.520 i didn't think about that till just now but normally i'll i'm thinking dynamic dynamic but

01:14:33.300 um yeah and so here for anybody that's listening um uh it would take us a long time to go over each

01:14:43.720 of the names um and there is a long list of names um however if you are also reading on

01:14:52.380 um the lust bow.org the uh translations for the names are at the bottom uh or if you scroll to

01:15:00.360 bottom they're all there um and i i would like to name a couple for purpose but i don't think i

01:15:06.840 think it would we'd be spinning our wheels if we named all so you don't need to correct all the

01:15:12.680 names we need do need to read all the text oh yes all the text but not translations um

01:15:20.920 or maybe what i could do is after everyone i'll i'll kind of just briefly speak of all of them like

01:15:27.080 um in 12 children they had they lived and were happy fios near and clear they were called me

01:15:38.360 thinks, Hraim and Klecki, Kefsir, Fulnir, Drum, Diraldi, Drot, Lekyaldi, Lut and Hosvir, the house

01:15:57.200 they cared for, ground they dunged, and swine they guarded, goats they tended, and turf they dug.

01:16:05.580 And those names are very, very interesting because, again, they show beauty traits, but also traits that we should, if you're reading the names or understanding the translations, these are names of things that we should try to move away from.

01:16:22.840 For instance, the concubine keeper, kefsir, or the fat, there is, you know, the stinking one, the slugger, the big-legged, the gray, the coarse, the shouter.

01:16:45.540 So all of these traits are, again, loud, you know, screaming, yelling, and just being crass, being, you know, overweight. And I really like, you know, too, the concubine keeper. 0.99

01:17:00.000 I think the concubine is probably wrong in the sense that it's more or less a kind of loose women, a keeper of loose women or a desirer of loose women.

01:17:16.180 And so not only are they speaking about physical traits, they're speaking about spiritual traits and mental traits.

01:17:22.440 So all of those are being spoken of and that it's clearly seen as that you need to move forward and upward from this.

01:17:33.800 um you know the best

01:17:37.120 that if this is where you are starting you can move upward from this our folk are not limited

01:17:48.580 to a low standard of existence low base desires low base consciousness you can become more

01:18:00.040 The key to becoming more is accepting the Aesir into your life and into your home.

01:18:08.020 That's useful. 0.99

01:18:11.100 It's easy to read the names, especially their translations and Snicker and like they are funny and they're like insulting and they're whatever else.

01:18:20.760 But just in a matter of fact way, you watch a progression of tasks, a progression of beauty, a progression of characteristics that show a steady progression upward.

01:18:34.540 This is already better than what those before them were in their existence, because this is that first glimpse of stop looking downward and starting looking upward.

01:18:52.360 And we see that throughout the rest of the story.

01:18:54.840 yeah um because again it's there's always this matter of even though the names are kind of

01:19:03.480 yeah worthy of laughing and they're they're very derogatory towards the way it you know you don't

01:19:10.040 want to be there is still the sense that they loved each other and that they were moving forward

01:19:15.080 and they were happy um and when we see this in the names like the um in 13 the daughters they had

01:19:23.880 drumpa and kumpa is no log and stumpy um oakvin kalfa oakvin kalfa fat calves or cankles if you will um

01:19:38.280 um uh aren't nevia a nevia easy or i'm about i can stiana so i can start oak peg again uh you know

01:19:55.320 it may not seem very derogatory but again it's the peg of oak it's like short stumpy and very hard to

01:20:02.760 cut carve you know very stubborn um uh talk to give ya or uh yeah give ya and thrown

01:20:17.400 and thence has risen the race of thralls and for anybody that's into runic you know again right

01:20:25.800 there at the end of the translation in old norse it says yeah thaden aru comner

01:20:33.880 the actor uh most people know about the the actor of the runes um that just means you know again

01:20:40.440 they use they translate it to race but it means you know the family or the the the collective of

01:20:47.000 of the thralls. So I do always kind of laugh at cankles, though. That's pretty funny. 1.00

01:20:59.880 So again, we reject this and must move forward. And again, the wording is important. Forward went

01:21:10.760 rig his road was straight to a hall he came and adore their hum and in he in did he fare

01:21:21.400 on the floor was a fire avi and amma owned the house so avi and amma mean not great-grandfather

01:21:31.380 great-grandmother but now grandfather and grandmother and it's so intentional that for

01:21:38.460 people to simply write this off as being literal people and that uh lord heimdall is a literal

01:21:46.700 visitor versus the encompassing of a of an age of people uh you know again it blows my mind that

01:21:55.020 that people would relegate it to such lowliness it's clearly written um in 15 there sat the twain

01:22:06.140 there sat the two and worked at their tasks the man hewed wood for the weaver's beam again

01:22:14.060 technological advancements are now being laid out his beard was trimmed over his brow a curl

01:22:23.820 his clothes fitted close in the corner a chest a a like a trunk or a um hope chest or of a thing

01:22:34.140 and um again this really does speak about the fact that our ancestors especially with grooming

01:22:43.340 standards and things of that nature the ability to make your own clothing the ability for you to

01:22:49.020 cut and shape wood with metal um and having your beard trimmed and cut um you know was a sign of

01:22:59.580 advancement also i think it's worth saying with the chest the idea of and i think we've all seen

01:23:08.540 this in our own lives if we've if we've struggled if we've been you know living paycheck to paycheck

01:23:16.620 getting to a spot where you're able to have excess to store away where you're able to

01:23:24.300 save up stuff for a future time for rainy day to acquire possessions as opposed to just

01:23:32.880 much like the animals spend all day foraging to eat so that you can sleep with a full stomach and

01:23:41.320 wake up tomorrow to spend all day trying to eat to survive again this is a really important thing

01:23:48.200 And, you know, I think that there is a loose connection, but I think it's also kind of inspiring and meaningful for us today when we find our people that are stuck in a condition of their living where they're not getting ahead, where they're, you know, expending everything they're able to bring in.

01:24:10.680 And they're always, you know, they're always in that struggle.

01:24:14.140 This is the first glimpse of something, you know, other than that.

01:24:18.200 of some kind of of generating wealth and savings and something that you can

01:24:24.200 you know have something outside of just barely existing

01:24:31.800 you know the reservoir of wealth um so moving on to 16.

01:24:39.240 the woman sat and the distaff wielded so now you know she's separating the wool she's creating

01:24:50.460 threads um at the weaving with arms outstretched she worked and this would be really

01:24:57.800 common imagery for our ancestors to understand so now you know they're moving into more of an

01:25:07.080 understanding that our ancestors would see on her head was a band and on her breast a smock

01:25:15.100 on her shoulders a kerchief with clasps there was so she's wearing a cloak or a shoulder smock and

01:25:24.920 you know or a shawl excuse me and she's wearing an apron uh you know to uh to cover her dress

01:25:34.120 So there's great care. And again, more of the technological advancements amongst the folk. 0.99

01:25:41.540 uh in 17 rig knew well wise words to speak soon in the midst of the room he sat and on either

01:25:52.040 side the others were then took amma and this part is lost but it's it's presumed here that this is

01:26:02.300 the dining uh situation just like before there's a little bit of a break and then it says the

01:26:09.020 vessels full with fair she set calf's flesh boiled was the best of the dainties so that consideration

01:26:20.700 again that um even though the advancement of our people there is still clearly the

01:26:27.180 source of our nourishment which is the sacred cattle um and so but now she has uh

01:26:36.300 pottery, and mugs, and cups, and plates, and, you know, fine things to eat with.

01:26:49.080 In 19, Rigg knew well, wise words to speak. He rose from the board, the table,

01:26:57.880 um made ready to sleep and soon in bed himself did he lay and on either side the others were

01:27:07.040 so at this point too it's worth noting like in in when you say like come to eat dinner

01:27:13.660 in icelandic it's come to borda um and that in essence means come to the table

01:27:18.980 and here you know again grandfather grandmother and the divine are all united and both sides

01:27:30.640 shall receive the same leveling thus was he there for three nights long

01:27:37.980 then forward he went in the midmost way and so nine months were soon passed

01:27:45.020 a son bore amma with water they sprinkled him carl they named him in a cloth she wrapped him

01:28:01.800 he was of ruddy face and flashing eyes he began to grow and to gain in strength oxen he ruled

01:28:13.420 and plows made ready houses he built and barns he fashioned carts he made and plow he managed

01:28:24.620 so now we have the ascendancy of the of the free man or what is truly you know again the

01:28:32.300 technological advancement of our of our of our folk and of our people moving forward

01:28:39.660 um again the messaging of carts and the utilizing of the wheel

01:28:46.700 um and again it's not spoken of in the story but the utilization of fire from the first

01:28:54.300 and on goes beyond simply just the fire in the hall but with metallurgy and things of that nature

01:29:04.300 Um, and you'll notice that, uh, the age, Avi and Amma, they give birth to, um, uh, Carl, and then a consort simply becomes, um, so every age, like the, the, the greater age accepts the divine.

01:29:29.380 it creates a child and that child is consorted with his equal and again it's patrilineal because

01:29:38.560 we are a patriarchal uh culture so the consort is never really talked about and again it's not

01:29:45.600 really meant to you well where did she come from that's kind of again weak thinking when you're

01:29:53.580 reading mythos and i mean it's good to question things and wonder but at the same time it's it's

01:30:00.540 pretty clear she is fulfilling the purpose of equating and our ancestors knew the masculine

01:30:07.340 and the feminine that's how things had to be in order to make so um home did they bring in 23

01:30:17.100 the bride for carl in goat skins clad and keys she bore snore was her name neath the the veil

01:30:28.300 she sat so now we're talking about wedding traditions um a home they made ready and rings

01:30:36.380 they exchanged the bed they decked and a dwelling they made so clearly there the referencing to

01:30:47.100 the the ring exchange and wearing of the veil these are not um you know christian things um

01:30:56.300 um and in 24 sons they had they lived and were happy holler and dranker

01:31:09.260 hold the same or smither braver bondy bundenskecky booey or body

01:31:27.980 so

01:31:30.700 hail is written in english hail and drang half fane and smith braith and bondy

01:31:39.260 bundeskegi buoy and body uh or body um bratskeg and sag and in their names um you know again the

01:31:53.420 the a man the man the strong beholder of land the bond man the one with broad shoulders um the one

01:32:02.780 who like buoy is owner of a dwelling or you know yeah he owns a place that people reside uh baldi

01:32:11.340 is a farm holder um and then a brat skag is you know a a beard carried high somebody who's not

01:32:21.260 slouched somebody whose back is straight his eyes are level and he's filled with with pride um 0.70

01:32:29.740 And their daughters in 25. Daughters they had and their names are here. There is Snót, Bróðr, Svanni, Svára, Sprakki, Lóð, Sprúnd og Við, Feima, Ristil, Fæðan.

01:32:57.060 yeah sorry that's not the name they then thus came the family of the carl so i was going on

01:33:11.640 a roll there um so you know we have here the the worthy woman the bride bruce is bride uh

01:33:20.340 Svauni is the slender, Svari is the proud, the fair, the proud woman, Vif, the wife,

01:33:31.980 Fema, the bashful one, or the humble one, the one that has, you know, reserve, and Ristil,

01:33:43.220 the graceful one so again there's these listings of desirable traits and an advancement forward 0.87

01:33:52.420 men should be strong men should have broad shoulders ladies should be fair ladies should

01:33:59.540 be proud but also with modesty and also you know encompassing gracefulness the the masculine and

01:34:09.700 the feminine are so clearly laid out here you know al-sahir ago they said we do believe that our men

01:34:19.140 folks should be masculine and our women folks should be feminine and nothing encapsulates

01:34:24.980 more that truth from the lore than right here yeah and i i think it's egregious that people

01:34:36.180 would think that we're speaking out of out of turn or or making things up it is no more clear if

01:34:44.580 anybody who follows the holy ice here believe that masculine men and feminine women is somehow

01:34:51.540 egregious um they should leave they should leave faith go somewhere else because you're in the

01:34:59.220 wrong house um so in 26 0.63

01:35:09.060 thence went rig his road was straight a hall he saw the doors faced south the portal stood wide

01:35:18.660 on the post was a ring then in he fared the floor was strewn so a couple things with this

01:35:28.900 uh right out of the gate it's a hall it's not just a home but a great hall and the door faces the

01:35:36.260 south because of the north wind so it is a pleasing entrance that doesn't get lambasted with

01:35:44.740 the wind it's wide and it actually has a ring upon it um and on the floor when they speak of

01:35:54.180 strewn they're speaking of hay hay is laid out in order to catch any you know spills or anything

01:36:02.420 like that also to kind of buffer the cold of the of the stone of the ground so more

01:36:08.580 technological advancements and we'll see even more in 27 within two gazed into each other's eyes

01:36:20.980 father and mother and played with their fingers there sat the house lord

01:36:30.020 wound strings for the bow and shafts for arrows he fashioned and bows he shaped

01:36:39.940 so again i love the fact that there the one of the cohesive senses of advancement is love

01:36:48.260 the love between a man and a woman is sacred it is divine and it is the key component towards

01:36:56.660 moving forward um that balance between the masculine and the feminine and you know it's

01:37:02.740 mentioned that he he's twining strings for bows and he's shaping arrows um and in 28 the lady sat

01:37:14.100 at her arms she looked she smoothed the cloth and fitted the sleeves gay was her cap on her

01:37:24.420 on her breast were clasps broad was her train of blue was her gown her brows were bright 0.55

01:37:33.940 her breast was shining whiter her neck than new fallen snow

01:37:38.980 so a couple of things here um the fact of when i think there's no more of an egregious sense

01:37:49.620 is like we've joked about it the shoulder pelts the the people that are wearing kind of the dark

01:37:55.380 halloween runic makeup around their eyes and they're wearing you know dark colors and um you

01:38:03.140 know stinky dog furs on their shoulders and they're just kind of grunting and and you know

01:38:09.700 bone rattling um the truth is you know again when they speak about the like the um the fitted 0.55

01:38:18.100 sleeves and the gayness of her cap they're talking about the lightness of it the the um

01:38:24.340 the cap being brightly colored um and she had jewelry she had her her clasps upon her chest 0.59

01:38:33.380 and she had a broad train fabric enough to let it flow on the ground because 1.00

01:38:42.820 you know the usage of of that technology of being able to produce clothing um and her brow 1.00

01:38:50.260 her brow is bright she doesn't have a you know a swarthy and darkened uh countenance about her 1.00

01:38:57.540 on her skin and um and her breast so you could see her you know a part of her chest and it was 1.00

01:39:04.660 it was pale it's it's um it's not you know soiled or covered with soot or sunburned and her neck

01:39:14.740 is whiter than new fallen snow so again when we speak about our faith being of a people being

01:39:23.940 folkish it comes from a people and those people had very clear defining factors of what they

01:39:33.060 thought was attractive and it comes from actual people so you you might find uh people that try

01:39:40.900 to discredit and try to tear down ausiturus not being an ethnic faith the the truth of it is is

01:39:48.260 we are a people we look away we have you know defining factors and our stories

01:39:54.900 are just riddled with all of this and we don't want it to be something else we want

01:40:02.580 it to be exactly as it is for us as it was for our ancestors um in 29 rick knew well

01:40:14.580 wise words to speak and soon in the midst of the room he sat and on either side the others were

01:40:24.180 and 30 then mother brought a broidered cloth of linen bright and the board she covered so she

01:40:33.940 lays the cover the the table cover down and puts the runners now there's more cloth than just

01:40:40.180 needed for clothing. And then she took loaves so thin and laid them white from the wheat on the

01:40:49.600 cloth. So soft bread that's fully strained and fully separated and is just soft and nice to eat.

01:41:00.040 you're not grinding through um

01:41:06.440 and 31 then forth she brought vessels full with silver covered and set them before them

01:41:15.640 meat all browned and well-cooked birds in the pitcher was wine of plate were the cups so drank

01:41:25.320 they so drank they and talked till the day was gone so i was talking about this this weekend at um

01:41:33.960 winter nights uh you know it's it should be understood that the horn is a modern

01:41:41.400 ousadru cultural aesthetic that our ancestors didn't always drink from horns horns have

01:41:47.880 significance i mean if you go to the museum in denmark if you go um to any any of the museums

01:41:54.680 in scandinavia you will find beautiful horns um but that was not the mainstay instead it's more

01:42:01.400 of a symbolic connection to our ancestors um but it is worth noting and it and again mead is the

01:42:08.760 preferred um especially in this day and age where where wine is defined by its history in many other

01:42:15.480 ways mead is significant to us as a cultural standpoint but here the picture is you know

01:42:23.800 it's clearly filled with wine um and they talked into the night 32 um

01:42:40.280 rig knew well the wise words to speak and soon did he rise made ready for sleep

01:42:45.560 so in the bed himself did he lay and on on either side the others were so one of the things too

01:42:52.600 that i like to speak about this is every time they bring the divine into their home as a generation

01:43:02.920 or as a folk there is much rejoicing there is a sense of correctness and rightness and goodness

01:43:11.240 there's a an ease of the idea that there is a there's feasting there is talking and and and

01:43:18.040 expounding so i you know i've always taken this to really mean in the mythos sense that this is

01:43:26.120 the predecessing elevation there is these kind of moments of peace um and then there must be

01:43:35.560 kind of a change so uh you know i don't know if we're if we're again going along with the analogy

01:43:41.320 of ages um you know there's just kind of like a peaceful age and then there must be a time and

01:43:47.400 And it's not necessarily defined in turmoil, but in the invitation of the faith, invitation of the divine to proceed forward.

01:44:01.640 In 33, thus was he there for three nights long.

01:44:06.220 Then forward he went on the midmost way, and so nine months soon passed.

01:44:11.780 34 a son had mother in silk they wrapped him with water they sprinkled him yarl he was blonde was

01:44:26.220 his hair right his cheeks grim as a snake's eyes are excuse me they he writes it a little odd

01:44:34.600 Grim as a snake were his glowing eyes. And again, that's kind of interesting, the idea of his eyes being grim as a snake or kind of piercing, I think, is the ultimate movement forward on this.

01:44:56.220 And again, the usage of the word Jarl for nobleborn is interesting as well.

01:45:04.440 So, this is a turning point.

01:45:09.220 At this moment, in the mythic chronology of our folk, we truly become Aryan.

01:45:17.360 We truly become noble.

01:45:20.240 Jarl is nobly born.

01:45:23.980 And we see that.

01:45:25.160 you see the crispness something about the imagery of the eyes and certainly they don't

01:45:30.440 function like a snakes but there's something that you see with people where you can

01:45:36.360 the eyes really are the window to the soul in a lot of ways

01:45:42.840 eyes are very striking on people and it's it's one of those things that makes a painting

01:45:51.560 look profoundly real or not is if they can get the glint in the eyes they can get like

01:45:58.200 a hint of reflection or a hint of like the white like in the pupil meaning like clear eyes

01:46:07.720 the idea of being clear-eyed and having a penetrating gaze shows you that something's

01:46:13.240 going on behind the eyes that's more than more than more than average quite often you can see

01:46:21.940 that with people sometimes when they're clear-eyed and they're paying attention it's one of those

01:46:25.780 things when somebody's you know drunk or out of their mind or whatever you see it in their eyes

01:46:32.580 if you look at a crazy person or a person who's you know out of their mind or experiencing some

01:46:38.620 kind of a altered state or psychotic episode you see something different going on in their eyes

01:46:46.340 and it's not just the dilation it's a look in their eyes the idea of the ability to focus

01:46:52.380 and look clear-eyed is illustrated really cool and something you see with a snake

01:46:59.460 well and the usage of the word grim isn't used it used it's it's it's talking about um again that

01:47:10.180 the clarity or the focus of um uh the the serpent or or the the worm if you will like the idea that

01:47:25.300 that deep penetrating focus it has a lot to do also with presence you can see certain people

01:47:33.300 who have a gravitas when they enter a room there is something about their bearing about their

01:47:39.940 focusness about gram in the sense of very serious uh-oh that guy's somebody to be reckoned with

01:47:46.980 that guy's someone important that guy's somebody with purpose and with clarity that guy this person

01:47:53.140 is special the rest of these people are just here goofing off and being whatever this guy's

01:47:59.220 you know about something and that kind of martial bearing and regal

01:48:07.940 regal countenance is indicated a lot by the eyes

01:48:11.620 and again we see a a recollection of the bowstring but there's more now it's built on it more to grow

01:48:25.120 in the house this is 35 did jarl begin shields he brandished and bowstrings wound bows he shot

01:48:34.100 and shafts he fashioned. Arrows he loosened and lances he wielded. Horses he rode and hounds

01:48:43.020 he unleashed. Swords he handled and sounds or bays or inlets he swam. So now Jarl is of

01:48:56.140 Of that noble stock. And again, there's a great sense of what would be considered, you know, the attainment of the adventurous life of going out there, not seeking the sedentary, but living and being part of the, of life that demands that you must tend and be compassionate.

01:49:26.140 and challenge yourself and, you know, tame the hounds and ride the horse. And again, swords,

01:49:35.400 I said that emphasizing too, because the most common weapon amongst our ancestors was the spear

01:49:40.920 and the axe and a sword was very much a noble's weapon. And that would have been understood by

01:49:49.820 the audience as they're hearing this um and bow strings again stringing bows um that's a huge one

01:49:59.920 too i know a lot of people think that the northman maybe didn't emphasize in bowmanship or archery but

01:50:05.600 100 they they did and it was i i think uh all over um our european folk i believe even the

01:50:14.800 Otzi man in the Alps had an unstrung bow, ready to be strung if needed.

01:50:24.820 Again, another sign. 0.99

01:50:26.840 And we see this too, like during the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, the idea of like shaving your face, having razors, having the ability to shave your face was seen as an advancement in technology.

01:50:44.800 um and it just manifested in that way but there were certain things that you know if you were to

01:50:51.040 be of a good and strong and forward people you needed to have kind of these testaments towards

01:50:57.520 that and um again you know bows and bow strings and swords and shields these were all testaments

01:51:04.560 to advancement um let's see so in 36

01:51:18.160 so straight from the grove came striding rig rig came striding and runes he taught

01:51:28.000 by his name he called him as son he claimed him and bade him hold his heritage wide

01:51:38.920 his heritage wide the ancient homes this stanza also again shows more of a gaulish influence or

01:51:48.360 celtic influence um in the way that it it's it's kind of double backed meter that that has a sing

01:51:56.320 songiness to it um and unfortunately in 37 the first two lines of that stanza are gone

01:52:05.280 um but it says forward he rode through the forest dark over the frosty crags till a hall he found

01:52:16.240 so this is kind of an important part in the development here

01:52:20.320 all of this prior to this was like the training montage of our folk to become who we are and

01:52:31.280 enter the scene in our full glory of who we are and that's really important here

01:52:41.100 it's like heimdottler saw okay they've got it they've learned they matured all right now i'm

01:52:49.340 to come i'm going to mentor the child i'm going to accept him as like he's one of ours we're his

01:52:57.180 gods he is these are our people and with that unity with him finally you know coming into his full

01:53:07.740 inheritance as it states he's equipped to face to go out and to face the world and that's

01:53:16.540 indicative that like the the end of this of a long epoch in our full evolution from ask an 0.75

01:53:26.860 embla to the the first arian man that's complete you know that is fully

01:53:38.460 achieved that level of potential to where that's his baseline

01:53:42.060 and that's really important and it doesn't mean the challenge is over and it doesn't mean you

01:53:49.200 can't learn more and be more as we'll see but it's at this stage that we are all the way us

01:53:56.740 and that's a really pivotal it's really pivotal turning point in our allure in a moment that's

01:54:06.400 worth i don't know celebrating in a way in a way it's like our sistine chapel moment of divinity

01:54:17.920 reaching out and touching man and man touching back um so this is a really important part to

01:54:24.640 just kind of take note of and it's highlighted here in a special way

01:54:29.280 and you can clearly see the value of the words coming in relation to jarl um and what is seen

01:54:42.320 as important of the nobility of the time and also the spirit of the nobility um which is eternal

01:54:51.840 um in 37 forward he rode through the forest dark over the frosty crags till a hall he

01:54:59.040 found his spear he shook his shield he brandished his horse he spurred with his sword he hewed

01:55:08.160 wars he raised in the redden field and reddened the field warriors slew he and land he won

01:55:16.800 eighteen halls ere long did he hold wealth did he get and gave to all stones and jewels and

01:55:26.160 slim flanked steeds rings he offered and arm rings he shared so we we show the war likeness

01:55:34.720 of the jarl and the giving hand of the jarl the ring giver the one who who bestows upon people

01:55:43.120 the mantle and the the gift of uh that you know reciprocated loyalty so there's just there's

01:55:53.760 there's so much being poetically laid out and again it really does after 36 with the

01:56:00.480 Gaulish influence it it rolls out it's uniquely Nordic but it it just flows so well and um

01:56:10.080 I you know I think anyone any of the other you know especially the Gaulish it would it

01:56:16.260 resonate with them um you know in 40 his messengers went by the way so wet and came to the hall

01:56:26.900 where herser dwelt his daughter was fair and slender fingered erna the wise the maiden was

01:56:37.060 so uh one to clear up confusion his messengers went by the way so wet um this is where you're

01:56:47.340 going to start to see there might be a possibility that um this is actually referencing so now it's

01:56:55.900 kind of we've we leave the mythos of generational and i think ultimately this poem was meant to

01:57:06.420 apply and could apply as the scald was speaking it in the hall to a specific lord um and that

01:57:17.940 now we start to see more uh ways like again the the the ways so wet you know again traveling over

01:57:26.420 long distance but even here um you know bellows suggests that this may be the north way norway

01:57:38.820 um but again it's it can't be established but um you know he he's bellows tries to

01:57:47.620 state that he believes that even though this was written in denmark and was and composed uh long

01:57:53.780 before that this application more or likely would have been lent towards herald the fair hair in

01:58:01.220 norway um and that it you know again many of the uh icelanders that um left norway because of um

01:58:10.820 their disagreements with fair hair and his um taxation and a lot of his kind of edicts um

01:58:18.100 that it was still spoken of or remembered and passed on. But again, I think it's also ambiguous

01:58:25.740 enough that even if Harold was not liked by the Icelanders, it again applied to the nobility of

01:58:35.720 ages before. So yeah, she is slender fingered. She's got beautiful hands and her name means

01:58:47.980 the capable one. 0.60

01:58:54.820 Her hand

01:58:56.160 they sought, and home

01:58:58.240 they brought her.

01:59:00.400 Wedded to Jarl, 0.93

01:59:02.100 the veil she wore.

01:59:04.100 Together they dwelt, their joy

01:59:06.060 was great. Children

01:59:07.820 they had, and happy they lived.

01:59:12.020 Byr was the eldest,

01:59:13.680 and Barn

01:59:14.980 the next.

01:59:16.440 Yodh and Alphal, Arfi, Mo, Nivh, Svein. Soon they began. Sun and Nivhjung, to play and swim.

01:59:35.900 Kund was one of the children, and the youngest was Kohn. 0.70

01:59:40.180 Soon grew up the sons of the Jarl, beasts they tamed and bucklers rounded, buckler shields, shafts, again the arrows, they fashioned, spears they shook. 0.70

01:59:56.940 But Kahn the young, Kahnangr, learned the runes to use, the runes everlasting, the runes of life. 0.53

02:00:10.340 Soon could he well the warrior shields, dull the sword blade and still the sea.

02:00:17.520 bird chatter learned he flames could he lessen and minds could he quiet and sorrows calm

02:00:27.860 and then there is a lost piece here in this um stanza the might and the strength of twice four

02:00:37.760 men um and again i i you know with that piece being lost you know i i assume it was to be able

02:00:45.420 to call up or to sing the songs that give him the might of twice four men

02:00:55.020 so khanunkar which means the young king the young king he learns beyond simply

02:01:03.580 and now he learns the sacred of the divine he learns the power that it is it is given

02:01:09.660 lord ovin receives it when he synthesizes himself with the great tree that is the the nexus of our

02:01:19.740 worlds um and then he teaches and passes this on to the to the holy gods and now this is the step

02:01:29.260 in which the gods specifically heimdall is giving it to humanity and giving it to the noblest of

02:01:38.840 humanity, the noblest of our folk, the noblest of our people. And again, Conunker is not 0.93

02:01:47.300 a singular, but is the cream of the crop of our humankind. He's, he's looking at apex

02:01:57.300 evolution this took us from the implied bestial state that stinky and cankles and whatever

02:02:06.680 are a step up from through the ages until you have jarl you have noble 0.99

02:02:17.400 arian man and then his son you have king you've gone from 0.76

02:02:27.320 subhuman to royal majesty

02:02:32.120 and uh the isir were with us guiding that path guiding that

02:02:39.400 upward trajectory of our folk to this and once we became noble taking that full ownership and

02:02:47.280 that full cool he's one of ours these guys are our people and we're their gods and the culmination

02:02:56.080 of that being con the younger or what became in old norse conunger king um and this is really

02:03:06.960 beautifully put in this and you'll notice similarities in these things associated with that

02:03:15.040 apex of of evolution and trajectory the understanding of the chatter of birds the

02:03:22.400 you not just knowing rooms but being able to utilize the rooms for his purpose

02:03:30.880 and that's one of the things when we when we learn rooms you first learn runes phonetically

02:03:36.400 in his letters and you can write rooms and you can read in rooms when you're able to utilize

02:03:42.800 the rooms to shape your will through the rooms that's that next level i'd also like to point

02:03:50.080 out because if you read any of the side stuff he gets to the bottom about like oh runes that makes

02:03:54.800 more sense to be old then i'd like to make the point i've taught runes to a lot of people i am

02:04:01.600 not the all father it's just thing just because somebody teaches somebody else ruins does not equal

02:04:11.040 odin um yeah any any of the rune masters that have schooled us or brought us here in runic knowledge

02:04:21.600 uh maestro von list um edrid uh labenfels um nigel panic yeah any of those people are also

02:04:33.840 not oven and it's silly and kind of snarky and whatever for me to say but it's an important

02:04:40.880 thing to know if that's true then just because it's in a story that also happens to be revolving

02:04:53.120 around our lore and runes are in play doesn't mean that anyone who teaches runes has to be

02:05:01.760 the Allfather. It talks about how he shared that knowledge with the gods when he brought that

02:05:06.800 knowledge to Ausgar. Amongst the gods is the White House, Heimdallr.

02:05:17.680 Well, and this is really the end of the poem, but it's not. It's just that it's lost. And

02:05:23.600 you can clearly see this because now the focus goes around and um it starts to elude and then it

02:05:33.680 drops away unfortunately um and i i don't know i mean like i remember when i first read the poems

02:05:41.600 i did not know that it it was a loss but um you know then then it just became kind of an

02:05:49.280 understanding that that's what it is uh but it seems to be that it focuses more on delving in

02:05:56.080 towards or at least from what little we have the uh the the setting of the danes

02:06:04.880 but we don't go into it i do find this very interesting that uh in 46 that bellows

02:06:11.920 specifically says rig yarl that yarl um and rig the the the father and the son of

02:06:24.320 are in totality so the the divine and the product the product of the divine who is his father um

02:06:34.480 because he says year 46 with rig jarl soon the runes he shared more crafty he was so he learns

02:06:44.320 he learns from rig but then teaches it to his father who is also that the product of rigs it's

02:06:53.120 kind of a a circulatory thing but it's again it's it's him passing the knowledge on um and teaching

02:07:02.240 even his own father um the the ways of reading um so with rig jarl soon the runes he shared

02:07:12.640 more crafty he was and greater in his wisdom the right he sought and soon he won it rig

02:07:21.280 to be called and runes to know and again lord heimdall's name rig means the the strength to

02:07:31.440 lift so to be called upon and i think at this point and i think no i can i can not think of

02:07:40.240 any other god that would best fit the duty of piety and the duty of faith than lord heimdall

02:07:49.280 and at this point there's a there's a separation it's not just lord heimdall to be called it is

02:07:57.680 the piety and faith in the gods to be called upon this is recognition of the gifting

02:08:05.520 so you know it is good to call upon the gods and to know the runes and in 47 young con rode forth

02:08:16.880 through the forest grove shafts arrows he let loose and birds he lured there spake a crow

02:08:26.000 on a bow that sat why lurest thou con the birds to come so he's riding through the forest now and

02:08:35.040 see it starts to shift into a stories he's going hunting he's he's hunting birds and he uses his

02:08:41.520 runic magic to speak to the birds and he speaks to a crow um and actually let me see uh yeah

02:08:53.600 kira kira is the word that they use for they don't use raven um or you know or uh or or

02:09:01.680 krummi they use kira um so he speaks to this blackbird he speaks to the crow and he says

02:09:09.440 you know why are you luring the birds to come and in 48 says to where better forth on thy steed to

02:09:15.680 affair and then we we lose a segment and then it comes in and the host to slay so i i think

02:09:26.400 really what's going on here is conninger is using his runic magic and particularly the birds in

02:09:32.720 order to do something about um perhaps pulling uh don the the king of the danes out of his hall

02:09:45.200 luring him out to fight um but we don't know and the last stanza just drops off um unfortunately

02:09:52.560 because it's such a beautiful poem um 49 he says the halls of dawn and dump dump are noble

02:10:05.360 greater their wealth than thou hast gained good are they at guiding the keel trying of weapons

02:10:12.400 and giving of wounds and and then that's it so the unfortunate thing is just it suddenly tonight

02:10:30.640 right now okay i'll be right in there okay

02:10:38.560 so as you may have just become aware i'm gonna take a break here in just a second

02:10:41.840 until and tuck my daughter in but this is a wait i'll run real quick and then then yeah all right

02:10:54.480 so it's a really important um poem this bit of our lore is talked about a lot but i think a lot of the

02:11:02.000 the finer points of it are

02:11:03.760 overlooked for some of the you know for some other things i know it's been useful to me just

02:11:14.480 in the last few years to reread and digest some of the parts of it that are particularly special

02:11:22.400 and particularly meaningful um so i hope you guys have found i don't know found tonight's

02:11:31.120 let's show on it useful we've got some questions we got some questions built up

02:11:40.240 um yeah we got some questions built up and we will definitely get to those

02:11:48.100 so first the one we're going to go out of order because I'm going to hand the real first one to

02:11:57.120 i think you'll cover it really well and i'll go tuck my daughter in during that but

02:12:03.360 one thing from gothe east as things stand now which hoff will be the first dedicated outside

02:12:09.120 of the united states um i don't know because it would be irresponsible at this time to dedicate

02:12:18.880 off outside the united states we have scattered membership outside of the united states but we

02:12:24.880 don't have that cohesion somewhere to facilitate that and make that a responsible thing for us to

02:12:31.760 do so before we can do that we need folk in other parts of the world to 0.95

02:12:40.160 build the build the community and the leaders in the area to warrant the hoff being there

02:12:48.000 being entrusted there because that's kind of a big deal so we will absolutely one day have

02:12:53.440 hafs outside the united states but that as it is right now none of that's really on the radar

02:13:00.560 as far as forecasting the current international destination that is

02:13:07.200 you know our most active or most well suited is in sweden but again that's not

02:13:14.960 we're not there yet to where it would be appropriate to put a hof there um even if we had you know

02:13:21.200 even if we had large sums of money that wouldn't be on the on the horizon of stuff to do there's

02:13:29.260 places that would be much more reasonable to put off with our current membership activity

02:13:35.440 and as we you know as we progress and as things grow i'm very hopeful for 0.57

02:13:40.160 to see some of our folk that don't live in the united states come home to the astro folk assembly

02:13:45.460 and make those communities happen and i'm very excited to see that and i know that it will one

02:13:50.660 but that day is not today unfortunately um so svan the the real first question

02:13:59.460 and this came in even before i got into the chat room so before the show even started

02:14:05.300 from heathen man hail all and good evening quick lore question what is the ultimate fate of holder

02:14:13.460 uh is he referenced being in hell with balder does frigg mourn for him i believe you've

02:14:19.860 discussed it in past episodes that valley came to slay hoder to maintain balance balder the light

02:14:27.620 was slain therefore hoder the dark must as well is that correct if so when balder returns from

02:14:34.260 hell does hoder also return to the council of the gods who once again maintain the balance

02:14:41.060 or is he forever considered an enemy slash outcast once he even inadvertently became a kinslayer

02:14:49.860 So I know that you know the deets on this.

02:14:53.700 So if you could lay this out for folks and I will be back in just a second.

02:15:01.440 So one of the big things to consider with this question is, yes,

02:15:08.440 Hader is seen as the twin or the paralleling to Lord Valder.

02:15:15.220 Um, and he technically is not the Kinslayer. I would, I would argue that the true point of this

02:15:26.140 is the hand was not filled with malice, but that the balance had to be made from a law standpoint. 0.78

02:15:37.900 The one that does the killing must in turn be smited as well.

02:15:46.620 But on a mythic level, it's very clear.

02:15:50.700 Haldur and Baldur are of the same.

02:15:55.820 They're of the, they share of the same source.

02:15:58.380 They come from their mother, the blessed earth and the soul and the feminine of the folk.

02:16:08.680 And they cannot be separated.

02:16:14.600 So the story in and of itself is clearly just emphasizing that they can't be.

02:16:19.640 um so balder is slain out of out of uh trickery and the malice comes from uh the kinslayer the

02:16:32.920 actual kinslayer um who slays his blood brother's son so laofy son um slays his bread brother blood

02:16:40.680 brother's son but to to manage this and of course naturally they are twins father is slain and they

02:16:48.440 joined together and then nana uh joins after so after this in the lore um

02:17:00.120 it is stated in the guild beginning that hother is not to be mentioned by men

02:17:06.280 for the deeds that were done so that lends to a couple of things he's not listed amongst the um

02:17:14.680 ouse of the gods the male or the the the gods versus the goddesses um he's not mentioned simply

02:17:23.000 because he is not given that uh sense of honor because of the deed um but it is also not mentioned

02:17:30.680 that he did it in malice it's it's it's again it's like the inevitable and unfortunate event

02:17:35.880 um however afterwards when he rises with balder there are many key components that happen um i i

02:17:46.360 i see like snorri didn't write this in the lore but he says that magni and modi of thor

02:17:53.560 carry the hammer and of course it is known that he also had the rod the iron rod gridable so you

02:18:03.160 know i i've always kind of saw that as like the reasoning of the two of them um each having that

02:18:12.040 those those kind of sacred weapons um though i've heard people try to rationale that somehow they

02:18:17.800 like share it or things of that nature um it's just worth remembering that that that is the case

02:18:24.040 And then Vidar and Vowli, and Vowli picks up the runes, the tines of his father.

02:18:38.980 But so does Baldr and Hader return, and they complete the cycle.

02:18:47.300 None of the sole being of our gods or of any of the great powerful beings, when they die, they don't simply, you know, go away.

02:18:59.020 We spoke about that with Imir and Nidogar, with Bor and Besla and the wind-torn eagle and the hawk, with Ad-Ulla and Ratatosk.

02:19:14.760 um these the the the shape and the form changes and then diverts into a new purpose

02:19:21.040 it's the same here the gods go and then they do return i don't recall if it is spoken that

02:19:29.320 the holy uh mother of the gods um frig if she mourns for harder um but again the the um

02:19:42.640 in poetic form there's not a lot of wiggle room to give the details of a story

02:19:48.400 and so instead we have you know uh kind of more of a lending towards and then are focusing on

02:19:55.760 priority through word and through um proper you know poetic rules so

02:20:05.040 it's just uh from a overall standpoint yes he returns and um he um

02:20:12.080 He joins with the generational after with the gods. And I find it interesting, again, too, being the son of Lord Ovin, and the one-eyed comes to become the two-eyed, or the twi-blendi, twice blind.

02:20:31.840 and um you know i there's nothing written of this lore but i mean the taking up of his father's

02:20:39.060 station especially perhaps in in the relation of augury or or um sight even though he's blind i i

02:20:47.840 don't know it's i can't say because it's it's not there but he does return and um that is important

02:20:55.000 because how that and bald are inexplicably twined but it clearly states in the guild beginning

02:21:02.120 that we do not mention father because of the grievous nature of his deed but it seems that

02:21:09.880 after his return the alleviation of his um guilt as being the the one who dealt the killing blow is

02:21:20.280 absolved so

02:21:28.280 all right

02:21:31.160 so brings us to um

02:21:37.000 thrill the barbarian asks would studying the customs and manners of the northmen help

02:21:41.800 to understand the poems like in other religions if so what would be a good resource um

02:21:50.280 And yes, with an asterisk. So that's one of these things. These tomes were written down in the form that we have them and expressed with the imagery they currently have for a particular geography and technological phase that our people found ourselves in during that time that made sense.

02:22:16.700 to fully get the deeper meanings of the poems I think linguistically is really important which

02:22:24.960 comes on to other questions that I saw in the chat that we don't necessarily see in the question list

02:22:30.960 that's why we're trying very hard to continuously learn more and more Old Norse to understand some

02:22:39.680 these things because the names mean a lot the linguistics is huge and it really affects

02:22:47.680 understanding and concepts yes understanding the culture and the backdrop that these

02:22:59.040 stories are played out in absolutely helps us understand the lore and in this case with

02:23:08.400 most of our lore understanding viking age scandinavia helps a lot

02:23:16.160 but it's also limiting if you become obsessed

02:23:22.080 these poems could be written down in many different ages and if they were they would

02:23:27.440 use really different imagery to convey the exact same points

02:23:31.840 it's like in the icelandic manuscript version of some of these things you see the gods

02:23:43.680 in these really interesting pictures but because of when the manuscript was made the gods are

02:23:52.920 wearing like renaissance clothes because that's what made sense to the audience and portrayed

02:23:59.200 these things in the context that they understood you see in snorri's time the imagery being of

02:24:10.240 things that made sense in early medieval scandinavia because that's what made sense

02:24:16.560 in snorri's time you can see these same stories laid out with different costuming

02:24:27.120 it's like and this is a really please forgive the clunkiness of the analogy

02:24:33.280 and try to i don't know appreciate what i'm trying to convey with it

02:24:38.240 it's like when you see shakespeare in different settings um like

02:24:47.280 like the leonardo dicaprio romeo and juliet was good but they're like glocks and stuff had rapier

02:24:59.280 written on it like it was really it's silly in a way but it makes sense in what i'm suggesting

02:25:08.560 you can tell the story with a lot of different backdrop or you could place it in different times

02:25:13.440 and places and the meaning still is valuable the principles and the truths of it are eternal

02:25:22.240 to get better at those truths yeah understanding the um

02:25:28.480 the source material of the version that we have accessible to us is important i would place

02:25:36.240 linguistics over a hypercultural focus more i think most of us historically understand a lot

02:25:44.960 of the things but studying about viking history is always cool and always a valuable thing for you to

02:25:50.960 do um as to what resources i think there's a lot of different things to choose from depending on

02:26:00.320 what you're focused on if you're focused on like customs um i think culture the teutons helps you

02:26:09.520 it gets you there it's not quite viking per se though a lot of it is i think if you get

02:26:17.120 if your focus is on material culture it's really different and i think that's important too because

02:26:22.000 it's what we talk about the tv show where they're all gross and they're wearing like ashes and like

02:26:30.320 nasty pelts for no reason and everything's black and they're like

02:26:35.780 these crazy demonic things with chicken bones all over them and stuff they're like the 0.98

02:26:42.420 papa shango vikings or whatever is kind of silly um understanding their actual material culture 0.98

02:26:51.340 with their jewelry and their heavy emphasis on grooming and their brightly colored garments 0.98

02:26:58.720 and things that, and their technological adeptness, I think that helps a lot to get

02:27:04.100 a sober understanding of it. And there's a lot of resources on that.

02:27:10.840 So yeah, that's, that's what I've got. Svon, what do you have to add on this?

02:27:17.300 You're muted, Svon.

02:27:18.440 i said oh dang it i knew it uh uh there's one go-to that i would absolutely suggest um i i

02:27:31.960 don't know some people might be familiar but maybe they're not uh it's a pretty old website called

02:27:37.960 viking answer lady um if you know you're looking for short blurbs and faq it's pretty well

02:27:47.640 researched um and i was quite surprised because one of the one of the um questions that came up

02:27:54.680 there was about the grievances of same sex like relations and she tried to buffer it

02:28:07.160 and add some padding but the reality of what she had to report was clearly there there was no no

02:28:15.720 uh great love for um that kind of behavior at all and um the fact that she she did try to buffer it

02:28:26.440 but she didn't leave any of it out she told the truth and she gave examples and she showed

02:28:33.000 sections where it explained where you know clearly that kind of behavior was not looked well upon

02:28:39.560 um that was a that was the moment where i was like wow okay i think this website just as a quick

02:28:46.600 go-to is probably you know i would say pretty good um there's not a lot of agenda over fact um

02:28:54.840 and that you know she covers everything from um uh life on the ship to um you know basics of

02:29:06.360 of religious tidings and um but the the referencing is is great from clothing to again

02:29:15.060 social issues like the the um the rejection of homosexuality in the culture um there was a lot

02:29:23.940 of cool stuff in this website. So if you're like, need something right now, that would be the first

02:29:30.000 place I would say to go. Um, but yeah, it's, as I said, it's important, like culture of the

02:29:37.000 Teutons is where that comes from. Uh, the, the Nordic folk are from the Germanic central. And,

02:29:47.740 um a lot of that you know grew um one beget the other uh two other books that i would

02:29:55.900 or sorry three other books i would recommend one is called uh women in the viking age

02:30:02.700 um it's kind of a dry book but it does explain a lot about the nuances of marriage and unifying

02:30:10.460 families and clans um expectations of um wives and their value that they brought to the farmstead

02:30:19.500 um and the loss that you felt when you you know you lost a uh um a female family member because

02:30:28.640 their uh the jobs were so gender specific you know women did build the clothing brewed the mead

02:30:37.160 cooked the food and kept the the the house and and the hall in check um and and did it often 0.96

02:30:45.240 in multiples there was not just one but perhaps multiple women um doing this

02:30:52.360 um the other is the road to hell i would recommend that book because of burial significance

02:31:00.520 and pyre significance and understanding that our ancestors have moved through different burial

02:31:10.760 desires that they they have so the road to hell is a good one and then i think to the meat hall

02:31:17.000 um because it specifically focuses even though it's more on the anglo-saxon again um

02:31:23.160 um the they source from the center center and then they go out um and it you know the the mead hall

02:31:31.320 um spoken about in beowulf is in Denmark but it's understood by Saxons as much as it would be by

02:31:39.960 Swedes um and that's a unique kind of uh social area that I you know I recommend anyone to look

02:31:48.760 just to kind of get a better understanding of cultural hierarchy and the way things function 0.50

02:31:55.800 in these you know groups but viking answer lady is like if you need something now and you just

02:32:03.480 want to poke around and look at some stuff that's the one to go to right out the gate

02:32:12.280 it's a good starting point i haven't thought about that though in over a decade

02:32:17.880 I know, it's super old.

02:32:20.320 It's an old school reference.

02:32:22.380 I find myself on there quite often, though.

02:32:28.420 Are you also often on MySpace?

02:32:32.160 I got my own profile.

02:32:35.980 Listen to your CDs.

02:32:38.760 Yep, you got to come down and listen to my playlist.

02:32:42.360 Old man self. 0.96

02:32:43.640 um so this is an interesting question uh for those people that are consistently ugly

02:32:51.240 generationally are they descended from thrall per se or were they just not blessed with good looks

02:32:57.740 so swan what's your take on this because i have i have thoughts on this that i'd like well i would

02:33:03.340 i would firstly say remember we got to hold true to the understanding that thrall is not

02:33:09.640 a person. It's a generation. Can we descend? Can we go up and then recede? Absolutely. I think that

02:33:24.400 the ultimate point of the story is you look forward, you look upward, but that doesn't

02:33:30.980 lay out the idea that could you fall back? And yes, you absolutely can. We know that there are

02:33:37.300 people out there attempting to make us return to thralldom and you should resist that and be noble

02:33:47.700 and be better and grow stronger and um you know as far as looks and and things of that nature

02:33:55.780 i think ultimately there are some pretty long-standing objective beauty within our folk

02:34:05.580 But other things shift. Looking at women from the 1920s to women of the Victorian age, of men having beards and men having mustaches or shaved faces or whether or not in classical French, they're wearing heels to get that height because it matters so much.

02:34:32.520 And again, we're kind of heading towards that, where height is such a huge factor.

02:34:38.060 Whereas, you know, sometimes it was seen as, you know, whether the person was strong or whether the man was witty.

02:34:46.820 Yeah, all of those things.

02:34:49.220 I don't think that it means you're descendant from Thrall, because I don't believe Thrall is a singular person.

02:34:55.880 But ultimately that if you let yourself go, if you fall into the pit trap of cankledom, and if you, you know, your back gets bent and your head is down and your mind is dull and only cares about basic, you know, receiving of dopamines that are, all those things that we talk about.

02:35:23.400 there's plenty of people on twitter and the internet who talk about you know rejecting all

02:35:27.640 of that um i think that ultimately is what needs being like descended from thralldom

02:35:33.640 um as far as your looks i mean you know it does again start with who you are and how you

02:35:42.200 you you hold yourself and if you are kind of you know not on the super good looking side you never

02:35:48.920 know you you could meet someone punching above your your your weight line and you need to make

02:35:56.680 sure that you you know hopefully your kids get the the better half and and then you know like

02:36:03.400 the jeffersons you're just moving on up i'm kidding i'm kidding it's just i don't i i think that

02:36:11.400 you don't have um that connection to thrall simply as a person it is it is a lot of factors that make

02:36:19.880 you um we do very much though have a concept part of our soul complex is the leak or the body

02:36:40.440 your genetic characteristics speak towards the quality of your soul

02:36:50.520 and I know this isn't what ugly people want to hear

02:36:58.580 and it's a strange way to put it out there and there's so many other factors

02:37:06.000 but as we can just see things are passed on genetically and i think a lot of things

02:37:15.520 including physical things some kind of uh you know disease propensity

02:37:24.140 a lot of stuff is a reflection of or law and things put into the well by generations of

02:37:33.780 ancestors. Some things are obviously environmental. Some things have a very clear

02:37:38.000 cause and effect. You know, if someone was drunk or on drugs when they were pregnant and their

02:37:46.100 child comes out with defects because of it, that's a very clear, we know why that is.

02:37:51.880 But there is a progression of things. And I say that to say this, these things can be overcome.

02:38:00.080 we watch the progression in the story and yes we see it over the course of eons or however long

02:38:07.100 that time is but these people things can be progressed on within a lifetime 0.96

02:38:11.780 and if you find yourself to where you're an ugly you know you're an uggo from a long line of uggos

02:38:21.760 you can make it to where your kids less so you can make it to where your grandchildren are less 0.89

02:38:29.740 are much less so you can adjust that by correcting a lot of these things

02:38:37.580 honestly a lot of things scientifically you can correct a lot of things as far as you know taking

02:38:45.020 care of your health taking care of your situation and your health during pregnancies and during

02:38:49.820 things. But also by improving your hymenia, your descendants come into the world with a different

02:39:01.300 orlaw and less hurdles to accomplishing the things that they'd like. And I say that if you

02:39:09.940 find yourself like, man, I'm ugly. A lot of that can get fixed. We got a lot of things today that

02:39:16.780 help fix that. It's a funny topic at a distance. It's much less funny if you look in the mirror

02:39:26.480 and are deeply unhappy because of what you see. But we're in a day and age where a lot of that

02:39:32.480 can be overcome. There's a lot of choices you can make in your own life that fix things.

02:39:39.080 In the United States with a, you know, seemingly over 50% obesity rate, just fixing that, which is entirely in your control, gets you a lot closer to the line of looking the way you'd like to look.

02:39:56.800 Taking care of your appearance, you know, dressing well, putting on makeup if you're a lady, if you're a guy trying to get in shape, trying to hold yourself well, good.

02:40:07.500 And I'm not joking about any of this.

02:40:09.620 Good hygiene, presenting yourself well, those things go a long way.

02:40:15.700 Honestly, developing yourself spiritually to where you have self-confidence.

02:40:21.860 And if you can, and I say, all of this I get, people are going to take the wrong way and it sounds funny.

02:40:28.340 And I don't, when the jokes are there, it would be wrong of me to just leave them laying there.

02:40:35.340 You got to pick them up.

02:40:36.280 but realistically there's a very serious point here too you developing confidence in yourself

02:40:43.480 through evolving within your own life spiritually the way you carry yourself makes a massive

02:40:50.600 difference on your attractiveness and your overall the way you appear so as i mentioned the leak is

02:40:57.480 part of your soul complex. So is the hammer. So is the image you project. You having an air about

02:41:06.820 you of confidence and of something deeper and something more can change ugly to interesting,

02:41:15.300 unique, intriguing. A lot of those things, and it's a very subtle twist, instilling that in your

02:41:23.480 children. If the kids don't look the best, but you fill them full of a sense of purpose, a sense of

02:41:28.980 confidence and adventure and willingness to nobly face the world and present themselves

02:41:36.640 confidently, that goes a long, long way. And your perception of yourself affects deeply the hammer

02:41:44.540 and the image that you project to the world so i mean that's a very i think it's a really

02:41:53.260 important question i think it's one that makes people uncomfortable and it's one that easily can

02:42:00.940 be chuckled about but i think it's also a very serious one that a lot of our people face and

02:42:08.060 And it's one that I think that it plays into in a bigger way, and this may seem like a big stretch on the question, so forgive me for taking a little bit of indulgence here.

02:42:23.540 But when we have this thing where kids start identifying as different genders of people or different ridiculous things, a lot of that mental illness takes root when people go through an awkward phase where they feel ugly.

02:42:40.680 They don't feel attractive to the opposite sex. They don't feel like they're cool with their own peers in a non-romantic sense, and they feel uncomfortable in their own body.

02:42:58.000 They use cis as some kind of a pejorative towards normal, well-adjusted people that are comfortable in their own skin.

02:43:07.900 If you are uncomfortable in your skin, in every psychological sense up until very, very recently, that's problematic.

02:43:17.540 That is a big problem of not being able to integrate in that way.

02:43:22.580 so much of that has to do with how they project yourself when you feel ugly 0.89

02:43:31.100 you become uglier you sit around you eat your feelings you get mopey you don't care for your

02:43:39.340 appearance and you devolve visually when you're confident and you're healthy and you pursue

02:43:47.440 excellence no matter where you start you end up better looking than when you started

02:43:54.180 and it's really really important and i know that this please if you're listening to this you find

02:44:01.560 this silly i ask that you give it another listen and another thought because i think it's very

02:44:05.980 important many many people have gone through ugly duckling periods of their life and turned out to be

02:44:13.600 very appealing to the opposite sex and very like inspiring to their own peers and their own sex

02:44:23.740 because of confidence and pursuing excellence within themselves that confidence and that

02:44:31.320 achievement over great adversity and i've always said this if you are dealt poor or long

02:44:38.140 You have an opportunity for heroism in a way that someone who has dealt a beneficial Orla does not have.

02:44:47.580 You have an obstacle that you can directly put your energy into overcoming,

02:44:52.300 that if you are able to succeed at, when you are at a deficit,

02:44:56.660 it makes that victory that much more sweet,

02:44:59.940 and it adds a momentum that you project through Orla into your offspring.

02:45:03.840 and i think that's very important in this case no i don't think thrall is like a separate race

02:45:10.620 of people that makes ugly kids that's not that's not how that works that's not the point of that

02:45:18.400 story it's not like the three sons of noah making different you know that's not us that's them

02:45:25.800 oh i may have ran far afield on that but that's a great point you just what you just said um

02:45:36.000 the difference between the the man made the the you need the mortal prophet or the the mortal

02:45:45.300 messiah who is you know uh posthumously made immortal um and kind of what you were talking

02:45:52.620 about before the the uh the decrees these people writing these books saying oh you know well

02:45:59.100 yehovah or yahweh or elohim he came down and guided my hand and took it that's all

02:46:07.500 that's all mortal stuff that's messiah cult that's that that's the way they function 0.92

02:46:13.740 and their lineage and building on that lineage of mortal people it's all mortal

02:46:19.980 the our faith is built above the mortal the mortal is entwined with the immortal and we can

02:46:30.360 you know attempt to achieve and to to build towards immortality with our gods but it's it's

02:46:39.040 not given if we just you know grovel and nor is it none of its function the same way so like what

02:46:45.960 you just said is are in this story perfect encapsulates it it is the greater sense of

02:46:53.300 humanity not an actual human it's not abraham it's humanity and uh and and and as a folkness

02:47:04.740 i should say too it's just it is the folk and so uh the difference between those is is becomes

02:47:13.000 more glaring when you when you look and see um that their god is an affirmation of mortal

02:47:21.800 inclinations to maintain their social structure and traditions and ours is based off of our

02:47:31.240 interaction with those divine forces those very powerful cosmic forces interacting in the world

02:47:39.640 around us in their own ecosystem that we the spiritual ecosystem that we are also a part of

02:47:46.680 and so it's very very different um when you get into these man-made uh religions and i'm including

02:47:53.800 islam of course not just picking on christians i'm i'm including islam i'm including even the

02:47:59.160 the uh the buddhists because at a certain point you can kind of see that differentiation it

02:48:06.920 leaves the spiritualism goes into mortality and then it again splits with the mahayana and the

02:48:15.560 uh probably murdering that but the southern philosophy versus the northern like

02:48:21.000 assimilation into you know folkish faiths of china and japan um there's that brief moment

02:48:28.600 where it nexus is to clearly being focused on mortals and mortality and the divine and the

02:48:35.720 The forces of the divine or just the forces of the world are kind of laid down with a heavy focus on being human or, you know, again, trying to absolve yourself of suffering or sin and what have you.

02:48:52.840 And our religion is not that. It doesn't focus on that. It has its own sense.

02:48:59.800 And again, one of them is clearly being talked about is the attainment of the noble, the attainment of the better, the honorable.

02:49:10.700 And it doesn't just come by saying, you know, I pledge my honor and I'll fight any dragon and I'll wear, you know, shoulder pelts.

02:49:20.960 And, you know, it's really showing up.

02:49:23.940 It's really doing things.

02:49:25.700 it's really saying that you're going to commit and then holding true to your commitments um

02:49:32.260 and even despite the fact that you might feel something you know that you're a part of the

02:49:38.100 greater uh powers and and those forces so you you're you know i'm having a rough time or

02:49:46.580 or what have you but i'm gonna stick true to the course because i know it's right and and that has

02:49:52.100 a lot more to do and and we don't have those strictures of thou shalt not and you know you

02:50:00.500 shall not eat you know uh animals without cloven hooves or ones with scales like no that we don't

02:50:07.700 have all that instead we have to maintain and it really does um flow in every age the gods are

02:50:15.300 eternal in every age and we don't have to backtrack and say oh well you know uh shellfish are okay now

02:50:24.900 or or you know you can sit where a woman's been you know she's on her cycle it's okay now like

02:50:32.660 that's mortal man religious stuff we're out of that so yeah just something that you had said

02:50:39.940 about the way that uh with with thrall being not a physical person but the mythos of a people um

02:50:49.220 kind of struck a chord

02:50:54.260 all right um

02:51:00.020 so as i mentioned a week from today we will be on talking with our folk builders who've

02:51:07.940 been heading up hurricane relief efforts looking forward to that episode i think it will be a

02:51:13.700 powerful one for our folk um thank you guys for all being here this evening i hope that you guys

02:51:21.620 are doing well if you can make it out to feast the honor you are in south dakota you should

02:51:29.380 thank you this is really important so i'm glad we're able to cover it it's fun thank you for

02:51:35.780 being here as always thank you for having me bid you all good night and i will see you next week

02:51:42.740 until then hail the ice here hail the folk hail the afa and remember victory never sleeps

02:51:49.700 can I even wait

02:51:51.980 it was seven

02:51:57.440 I gotta finish

02:52:19.700 Thank you.

02:52:49.700 Thank you.

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02:53:49.700 Thank you.

02:54:19.700 We'll be right back.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - October 17, 2024

10⧸16⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 119 - Rígsþula

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