00:09:56.680from jm many religious traditions practice some form of receptive meditation or silent prayer
00:10:07.720is there a form of this that is appropriate for us it's fine what say you this is a interesting
00:10:17.960We just had a conversation on prayer and how there is prayer that is outward prayer that could be done through song and all other manners of things.
00:10:33.280I think that we've also covered it on VNS where vocalized prayer in our religion, culturally and across the board, there are things that happen in our religion that you can kind of observe and it's not necessarily written out.
00:10:54.480And one of them is the vocalization of prayer, the emphasis that speaking out loud has significance.
00:11:04.720However, that doesn't mean that contemplative prayer has no place.
00:11:14.900But I would certainly say it's a lesser station.
00:11:21.280I think that there comes a time where, and it's certainly from the divine standpoint, it doesn't necessarily even matter.
00:11:32.460It's just that there is a moment in which things transmit between thought into action.
00:11:40.120And that is a very important thing for our faith.
00:11:43.500But we see it with many traditions, especially kind of focusing around perhaps esoteric things within Ausatru, sitting out and going under the cloak.
00:12:01.960There are these isolating ceremonies and rituals that have been reported that involve looking inward, going inward.
00:12:13.840But I think that meditative concentration and silent prayer are the formulations.
00:12:24.420We always encourage folks that once you kind of set your mind to something, you should then do it.
00:12:34.140And I think that that applies to prayer as well.
00:12:37.740But prayer isn't always, I think people have a misconception that prayer is just as in that sense, a kind of internal dialogue only, and perhaps outward expression is painted with a different name, praise or penance or what have you.
00:13:03.680But they all are prayer. I just think that there is a certain point where there is a value that's clearly emphasized in our religious culture and theology that's more important than the other.
00:13:18.540And I would encourage people to look inward, meditate, and have prayer and look at it as kind of a primitive or proto-sense of your feelings, thoughts, and emotions with the gods that formulate into an action.
00:13:43.640So I think the question in itself is really important.
00:13:52.880And you talked about receptive meditation or silent prayer.
00:14:04.040So I want to address the silent prayer part first.
00:14:07.760And I suppose prayer means different things to different people.
00:14:11.800but I think to most people, when they think of prayer,
00:14:17.020they think of sending a message between themselves and the gods or the ancestors.
00:14:28.720I talked about this the other day with Speckinger Erickson,
00:14:33.440Um, and I don't, I know that the gods hear our prayers when we speak them.
00:14:46.260I don't know that they saying the word here in this context doesn't make sense.
00:14:56.500I don't know that they receive our prayers when those prayers are not spoken, but I don't
00:15:03.320know that that's i don't know that they don't what i do know is there's a couple steps in making
00:15:11.600something real thinking something makes it realer than not thinking it but speaking something into
00:15:22.580existence takes it from an internal and puts it into the world so i think there's tremendous value
00:15:30.260and i would encourage you to speak your prayers even even if just a whisper even low um but the
00:15:39.140act of actually speaking the words makes them real in a way that thinking them does not
00:15:47.540but from that i'd like to say receptive meditation a million percent uh someone in the chat uh
00:15:54.740i believe isaac mentioned uh or out sitting our ancestors you know and there's lots of ways to do
00:16:05.380this but the traditional out sitting idea is sitting on the mound of one of your the burial
00:16:13.300mound of one of your ancestors and receiving ancestral you know wisdom that way uh that's
00:16:21.540certainly something to do and i think that many people have experienced that in a less
00:16:28.020overt religious context taking quiet moments in a graveyard and just reflecting and being
00:16:36.500reverential that's powerful in and of itself i think even more so if you're actively engaged
00:16:43.620in venerating the ancestors and then seeking their wisdom so i think that's absolutely a thing
00:16:51.220but it doesn't have to be in a in a graveyard or a mound setting
00:17:09.220involves being receptive and that is inherently meditative something that
00:17:16.980I've described a few times on the program, one of the most basic and fundamental things that I did to begin actively worshiping our gods was to make an offering when I first came home to Ausitru and to let them know that I'm here, that I'm listening, that I want to build a relationship with them.
00:17:41.920And then just sitting and listening and meditating and listening and being in that space and being receptive to their energy, to their inspiration, to their wisdom, to whatever they might want to send my way.
00:18:02.980And I think that's at the core of what a great many of us do.
00:18:15.900Say something out loud, even if it's in a whisper.
00:18:18.720I think there's a tremendous value in that.
00:18:22.580Not saying the gods can't hear you or can't receive the message if it's another way.
00:18:29.200But I do know they can receive the message if it's that way.
00:18:32.980um up next laura all the way from sweden why of all the gods is ullr is is it ullr who takes up
00:18:45.420odin's throne during the wild hunt does he have the all-fathers blessing to do so
00:18:51.020svan what say you uh well i definitely think if it is being done then the blessing is
00:18:58.680um i i really believe that much of this that is be being spoken of if you look back into the um
00:19:08.300heimskringla and the yingetal when when they talk about the gods uh for instance they say oh lord
00:19:15.520is the king of the swedes and when he dies he wants to be stabbed so that he can go to his god
00:19:22.860and then Nyorth takes over. I do not believe that these are the gods, nor do I believe actually0.99
00:19:31.080that they're even euhammerizing the gods, but instead they are talking about the cults of
00:19:37.920worship, that the return of many migration era warriors from Central Europe as they moved in,
00:19:47.680they brought with them the emphasis of the cult of odin and that it they came in waves and that
00:19:59.120if the uh cult of north went down or and then the cult of frey came up these were kind of more
00:20:08.000royal houses and the emphasis of uh religions at the time and the only reason why i truly believe
00:20:15.760this is because there is a great migration back to the north after Theodoric the Great takes over
00:20:24.400Italy. And with that, there's new steel, new weapons, new tactics brought in that brings
00:20:35.140a rejuvenation. So to my knowledge, I'm the only person that's ever proposed this idea that these
00:20:43.780are cults of worship but um with that like they the idea that uh
00:20:57.140these representations might also extend to other things for instance the worship of ular
00:21:06.020as in the winter time for hunting now the tradition of also true that and i hate to say
00:21:12.260this because but it is the truth i come from a tradition previous to me being in the church
00:21:20.020and i say i hate to say that because the church is my house through it is also true but a lot of
00:21:27.300us did come from scattered places and we picked up traditions from before and one of them was the
00:21:37.060absolute uh kind of transition between the winter and that lord odin began the wild hunt and in his
00:21:45.460stead the winter god ullur was given uh not rain or total rain but uh administrative uh focus and
00:21:58.260i think that's really what this is it's an emphasis in showing the winter god is in power why
00:22:08.180well i mean a lot of speculation as to the power of ulur in the scandinavian countries
00:22:15.140of old and i think it was very very great um so with the processes of okay lord odin is going on
00:22:25.140the wild hunt um we will pray to ulur and we pray to ulur at this time for very specific reasons
00:22:33.460hunting and uh safe travel self-defense etc there's all of these things going on
00:22:40.580and so it translates into he takes over and that is not necessarily wrong
00:22:50.660If it was wrong, I don't think the gods would particularly condone or allow these things to kind of just continue to spread.
00:23:00.120But the understanding of it is more nuanced, is that the folk are reaching out to Ullr during this time, as the folks should reach out to many of the gods throughout their life and throughout the cycle of the year.
00:23:14.960I do not believe that Lord Odin wants to be the only one worshipped.
00:23:19.640I don't think that Lord Odin sees strength, you know, the idea that, you know, the forest is what makes the power.
00:23:32.280You're not going to burn down the forest for the sake of one tree.
00:23:36.760And that just like nature follows the divine, the multiplicity is very, very important.
00:23:44.080and so this transactional uh moment kind of fits in the story now i will say the the what you are
00:23:55.620quoting is from saxo grammaticus he was known to he turned his back on the gods he accepted the
00:24:03.600religion from jerusalem he accepted the middle eastern semitic religion and he definitely you
00:24:10.380hemorrhized the gods. But what I think he is also doing is writing out a hemorrhized version
00:24:19.940of cultural functionality at the time. That the people are looking to Ullur and this is kind of
00:24:31.740written out as a literal, he is taking over heaven. And the tradition that I come from is that Lord
00:24:39.900Odin begins his wild hunt during Haustabloat, or Winter Finding, which was dedicated to Ullr
00:24:50.760predominantly, and that Ullr would become a heavy focus while Lord Odin was out entering into a
00:25:00.720function that is not very prayer answering uh the wild hunt definitely having some very fearful and
00:25:12.320scary elements so the idea of praying to the gods praying to ulur for the hunt and i think
00:25:19.360this may have changed over time as hunting has not uh has kind of decreased in our uh culture
00:25:28.320But that's kind of where it comes from, that a lot of the writings that are going on here, they may seem like simple euhemorizations, but they are actually cults of worship and that the gods are the people.
00:25:43.860And we know that. We talk about the gods being in our blood and being of the folk and being of the people.
00:25:49.500And that's just what is being done. It's just being story told with the significance of what is happening.
00:25:58.320of the time um we see this with uh adam of bremen and um his traveling to upsala and the the uh
00:26:08.560tripartite at the time thor is lord thor is in the center and then he says the furious one and
00:26:15.840the fruitful one are at his sides and we begin to see that the triplication is very important but
00:26:25.200But those gods who fill the thrones that the folk are reaching out to, that changes.
00:26:35.800So it's very fluid and that's perfectly fine.
00:26:41.440The gods are not so jealous that they cannot allow the other divine beings in heaven have dominion over things.
00:27:27.120we do not put a lot of trust and faith in the guest of the norm it is fun it is interesting and
00:27:36.080i do think it adds elements and it adds things i think there's legitimate lore contained within it
00:27:42.640but there's also a lot that is not there are a great many things that are fanciful that are in
00:27:51.080effort to uh humorize the gods there are wild diversions that are very strange so i don't
00:28:01.800subscribe to the like hostile takeover of the throne of asgard and the things that way
00:28:12.840but i do think that there is truth about during the winter we were having special authority and
00:28:18.360a special prominence in that season and i think that's absolutely the case nor do i think that
00:28:24.520any of the gods of asgard can like usurp the throne against the will of odin or whatever and
00:28:32.440that's kind of laid out clearly in the lore that the end of uh edit lore that they serve odin as
00:28:41.400children to a father and that that's really not you know so i don't believe that there is this
00:28:48.920animosity that reference is found to my knowledge only one place and in the guest of the norm which
00:28:55.000is a i don't know a a source that i am highly skeptical of because uh much of it is not found
00:29:04.840or confirmed in any way other places but what you do have is them having a dramatic
00:29:12.680different take on poems in vieta's different times you can see points of connectivity but
00:29:21.560you also see a really really different uh story laid out by saxo what i do like about uler lore
00:29:30.440from saxo i think that's the only place they talk about his magical bone he's got a magical bone
00:29:37.400that he like goes across the sea on and it's always just fascinated me because it sounds so
00:29:42.140strange and so random um but yeah so go ahead uh the turning um i think that's part of the
00:29:52.960um turning the uh gods into crafty and cunning wizards that tricked our ancestors i think that
00:30:02.940was another reiteration of that um just to kind again to emphasize they they do it with lord othen
00:30:10.020all the time and in fact he's easy to do it but we can see it every now and then and i wonder too
00:30:16.380you know if there was another place say because scandinavia obviously in the winter time but
00:30:22.620I'd say another place in which Lord Odin goes on the wild hunt and it is a tradition of the people to lend their worship towards Lord Frere or towards Lord Thor or however it may work out.
00:30:42.240And then that is written by a person who is no longer of that religion and really no longer of the people.
00:30:50.800And he writes it that, oh, it seems that the dominion of heaven is taken over by Lord Thor in the wintertime because of Lord Odin.
00:31:01.660And I don't necessarily think that Lord Odin would look at that afoul, and I'm not speaking for Lord Odin, but it's, again, the wild hunt and this time frame is clearly an established point of our cosmological movement that for that to happen would be, yes, the wild hunt is going.
00:31:29.700why wouldn't people reach out uh at this time but it it's more organic obviously with lord uller
00:31:37.980and the fact that it's scandinavia and so yeah so we have a follow-up from laura also about um
00:31:47.360wild hunt i read in a children's book uh uh vison's uh spirits and monsters of scandinavian
00:31:58.360folklore by Johan Egerkranz that the wild hunt is hunting the Skogra, Skogra, I don't
00:32:13.180know how you pronounce the A with the O with the little dot over top of it. Anyways, but
00:32:44.620again, I'm used to the dash above the A.
00:32:46.840I know is the empty backed timber Lanveteer, the kind of the warning. And I feel like the
00:32:57.100Christianization of our folk did bring in a lot of stuff. And this is another great example.
00:33:03.440So instead of, they always seem to focus on and dominionizing the past traditions by
00:33:16.080kind of enacting that the wild hunt is going after a wood nymph and uh in the celto germanic
00:33:26.600areas it still remains too that the wild hunt is going after a um a land spirit if you will but
00:33:35.380um if you look up who is the wild hunt actually hunting um from my traditions that i i've grown
00:33:48.360up with since the early early 90s um the wild hunt is a psychopomp functionality if i was to
00:34:00.460look at it uh from as an observer uh i was always of the of the teachings that lord odin is uh at
00:34:13.460the end of the year when the veil is the thinnest he rides out and he doesn't ride out with the
00:34:20.560he is riding out with the multitudes of the of kind of the hounds or maybe even the hounds of
00:34:29.680and that he is ferrying over lost souls or souls that were from outlaws, crossroads, confused soldiers, etc.
00:34:46.500And that the wild hunt at the closing of Haustblot, Lord Odin rides out to gather these souls, to return them to the mound, the underworld, to Helgarth, to Hel or Helheim or whatever title we, you know, there's so many titles for it, but to return beyond the veil.
00:35:13.600so the thinning of the veil kind of coalesces with this and so the gathering of the lost souls
00:35:22.720and the psychopomp function is in this wild hunt the the searching every corner kind of uh again
00:35:33.360just the hunting um motif of it and that every soul gathered is is the another soul in the wild
00:35:43.600hunt until he can bring them down and it it's it's also met with that that fear don't get you
00:35:51.040know lost on the road don't be confused for a lost soul in the frenzy of the wild hunt
00:35:57.920don't be out late at night on the cold wintry nights and that you know a foul northern wind
00:36:05.280could come and and ride down over the trees upon you and you know take you up because they confused
00:36:12.880you for a lost soul and so that was always the predominant function of the wild hunt was that
00:36:22.560it was ultimately to bring souls to the underworld to bring them to rest during a time of the thinning
00:36:31.040of the uh veil because there is a the possibility that they uh are disconnected in some way from
00:36:43.280um the their ancestors or that the death process was in some way so jarring that it it interrupted
00:36:52.360the processes if you will they couldn't find the road they didn't have the ability to walk
00:36:58.180with uh good shoes if we're talking specifically norse um uh so that kind of function um
00:37:10.360is really really important um i think that it's also important because it crosses over between
00:37:18.400um the celto-germanic line the there is gaulish traditions and there is uh
00:37:27.040germanic traditions and that's one of the most unique points of this tradition
00:37:33.160yeah what spawn said i think that the tradition of the wild hunt has evolved over time
00:37:43.880um a heads up to producer nick we gotta fix spawns away avatar um
00:47:09.360We have some people that are deeply spiritual that search for things that are true and meaningful.
00:47:19.260We have other people, and increasingly we have people who come from atheism.
00:47:24.660And I don't think that they are being insincere, but they have an inherent cynicism about religion.
00:47:38.660They are traditionally minded and they long for tradition, which has been lost.
00:47:44.420And so they know religion is a thing and should be a thing.
00:47:50.780And so they presuppose, they presuppose certain things.
00:47:59.920So it is very important to me and to the rest of my colleagues in the AFA that we present
00:48:08.980truth the best that we understand it and that we're honest on things that we don't know
00:48:15.480and that we're honest on things that might not be knowable.
00:48:20.780Some people wouldn't articulate it this way, but because they come from a place of atheism, they're like, man, if you're just going to make up some religion, why don't you have some better answers to these questions?
00:48:35.680And yes, if I was making up a religion out of whole cloth, I would have very satisfying answers to all the questions, I promise you.
00:48:45.020But I'm not. I'm practicing a religion that is very real and true and fundamental to our race.
00:48:54.700And Svon and I are expressing those truths the best that we know them.
00:49:00.440And we are seeking to understand them the best that we are able to comprehend them.
00:56:32.300And I would first lead off by saying, I don't know if the gods refuse or accept,
00:56:39.920and I am in no position to speak on the gods' behalf as to who they do or do not.
00:56:49.720That is entirely within their dominion.
00:56:54.040But I can look across time and see different kind of overlays, if you will, and we find, as we just spoke about, the morphing of religions that kind of always end up morphing to the blood because the moment they leave the people of their origin,0.86
00:57:19.240They they turn into something that is uniquely of those people's blood.0.72
00:57:27.720And then you have these people gifting to a God that is not of their ethnicity.
00:57:35.820Christianity and Hinduism are the first two big ones that I think of.
00:57:42.340And, you know, the changing of the vocabulary.
00:57:45.840Al-Shergoli was talking about them demonizing our gods, but the word demon is Greek and has a totally different meaning than the word Shedim, which is what they spoke in the Middle East at the time.
00:58:02.420And so that word has become negative simply because of the functionality that was needed.
00:58:13.420So the gods, they are their own and willful and beyond our selves, our biology and our material world.
00:58:30.020um but from a personal standpoint i think there's nothing wrong with saying these are my gods these
00:58:38.020are the gods of my people and um you should be honoring the gods of your people and and that's
00:58:47.860really the one of the nicest ways of saying you know stop but not necessarily in a sense where
00:58:56.740You have to you have to act. And we see this over and over and over again.
00:59:04.940The Judeans were very upset when Saul of Tarsus decided he was going to convert the goyim or the Latin word Gentile.
00:59:17.520He was going to convert them to their religion in a kind of, not only like pseudo, but also for the Judeans, it was heretical.
01:12:56.080This sounds like an absurd thing to say.
01:12:59.120but we live in very strange time and there is truly evil chaotic forces out in this world
01:13:09.020to where people celebrate infanticide and celebrate um numbers of abortions
01:13:17.500this is on one level very evil it's on another level a
01:13:25.200shocking neon sign of tremendous mental illness and unwellness
01:13:33.780and we live in a day and age where unfortunately it doesn't go without saying so0.97
01:13:40.540So, unequivocally, killing babies is bad.
01:13:45.040I wish I didn't have to say that, but this is the world that we are currently in.
01:13:49.980I hope by the time that our children are here having, you know, V&S episode 3000, that wouldn't need to be made so clear.
01:14:00.860um being asked question what's the best spiritual morning routine
01:14:08.860upon waking up to make the most of your day it's fine do you have thoughts on that
01:14:13.860uh i mean to be honest i don't really do a like routine um i have i did when i was younger i also
01:14:28.180did while i was in the military um so i think to we find ourselves doing these things not so much
01:14:37.300as a cross cultural point but at significant times in our lives um i know that for me it it was
01:14:48.420to gain control of chaotic environs um but as life and you know comfort or i guess stability um
01:15:03.060becomes at that point you know it kind of stops becoming a practice or it starts becoming a
01:15:10.820practice when the chaos kind of enters in so i think if we are the adults in the room saying
01:15:18.900hey it is good to do this or it's certainly good to start your day with a specific routine i think
01:15:27.220it's also good to understand that sometimes it is not the entirety of your life it is um
01:15:33.300um it is done more in in the pitch of what is happening in your life or if you feel particularly
01:15:44.580drawn away um from the divine or if you're battling with these moments and in a way it's
01:15:54.140another form of prayer uh it's it's not the internal and it's not the verbal it's kind of
01:16:00.700the external in a way. However, I think one of the best ways to do this and is so moving
01:16:13.840and getting your lymphatic system to move in the form of runic movement. And I don't want to say
01:16:23.760runic stances because that implies static um and i again speaking of the tradition i i come from as
01:16:32.980we are um we are a united rope and we can still trace ourselves back to when we were simple strings
01:16:41.000my usage of utilizing breath work and runic esoteric kind of practices but the point of
01:16:57.220them were was to move the body in such a way that I was compressing and circulating the lymphatic
01:17:06.160system and stretching. And I think that that is the best way to start waking up.
01:17:14.780You know, running immediately, which I did a lot of in the Marine Corps, I don't recommend
01:17:20.880right away. But no, getting your body to move, getting the secondary circulatory system that
01:17:29.760doesn't have a heart to function and move and remove the toxins and do those things and it just
01:17:38.100happened to be in the tradition i was in that uh we would do the the runic etter or eiter um
01:17:47.980and each of course having spiritual significance and then we would incorporate breathing
01:17:53.300and Galdr. And this became a whole practice. But if I was to boil it down, it was lymphatic
01:18:03.240stimulation and stretching. And I think that's the best way to go. And structuring your own,
01:18:11.740if you were to do lymphatic stretches that you found online, and then in between, say,
01:18:20.260Every three exercises, you take a moment to say a prayer or go out and you're doing this to the sun or however you might want to do it.
01:18:34.860You can formulate it that way, but I definitely think these are one of the best ways to get your body going because we often don't consider the elasticity of our muscles and we don't consider the toxins built up in our lymph nodes.
01:18:49.620So how you do it, I think, is more up to you and what's available to you.
01:18:58.220Yeah, so like Svon, I really don't have a morning practice that I do.
01:19:28.860I like to do those in the evening and kind of let that lead into hopefully meaningful dreams
01:19:37.740and meaningful absorbing those things in my subconscious during the night.
01:19:43.100but i will say um i've known a number of people that like to do their meditation work
01:19:52.360in the morning like to do the receptive kind of meditation that we spoke about earlier on
01:19:57.280to open the program um i also know that people will including our founder steve mcgillen and
01:20:07.280They like to do the Sigriffimau prayer before going out with their day.
01:20:13.720They like to go, you know, take a step outside and face the sunrise and recite the Sigriffimau prayer.
01:20:27.040I have known other people that have kind of a, you know, a small ritual.
01:20:31.280they'll say uh you know they make an affirmation or say a small prayer before they put on their
01:20:36.400hammer to go about the day and leave the house i know that uh sometimes that's something that
01:20:43.760i'll do or something that my daughter and i'll do if we're going to leave the house to go about our
01:20:47.600day is to you know kind of make a prayer and make a little you know burn some incense light a candle
01:20:54.960and make kind of prayer and affirmation and some thanksgiving and before we went out to our day
01:21:01.280So I think those are some ideas of stuff to do.
01:21:05.740Realize we have not touched the Scouts Gap them all, but that's fine because questions are really important, and I think they add a lot.
01:21:12.840And I want to make sure one of the things I always worry on here is when people front load a bunch of questions,
01:21:17.580and then we take an hour to get to them because we're immersed in lore that maybe the person we asked them isn't around to hear the answer.
01:21:25.320And I don't want that to be the case, so I don't know.
01:21:27.600We're kind of mixing it up a little bit.
01:21:31.280so we don't have a bunch more we got two more and then we're going to go into uh the text
01:21:44.220first uh stars i read the plow was known as odin's wagon and the plowman
01:21:54.440uh was thought to be prayer i personally thought orion was on the wild hunt does the afa care for
01:22:04.680stars hi from the uk well i appreciate having an audience from from your country and my ancestral
01:22:13.160homeland way back when um the afa is anti-star um we do not care no that said um all that's
01:22:27.500really interesting i think spawn may know more than i do about the astrology of it i will say
01:22:34.180there are people within the afa that are very interested in the stars and in astrology and
01:22:41.720and those kind of things i don't know that you know i wouldn't go so far as to say the afa is
01:22:47.560as a whole um you know i don't think the afa has any real codified views about the stars per se
01:22:59.480the most consistent star more than the afa that's talked about is lord tears association
01:23:06.920with uh the north star with polaris outside of that a lot of people have their own you know
01:23:14.220their own kind of thoughts and personal things they do that way it's fine do you have any any
01:23:19.300thoughts on his question or on about stars in general as it relates to australia afa i think
01:23:27.860a fascinating book for folks to look at is nigel pennix um runic i believe it's called runic
01:23:35.800astrology um and and that's very interesting i've also heard uh the reference of um ursa major being
01:23:46.680uh odin's uh plow or odin's wagon um and again i think that this would also be very important to
01:23:54.840consider what time frame that titling is if if it's done say in the fort 14th century um long
01:24:05.800after the people had turned their backs to the native you know gods of their people um but was
01:24:13.880later noted down in the 18th 19th century uh that would still be kind of ancient or uh elder
01:24:23.800knowledge even though it's you know may or may not be correct we have speculated a lot um we do know
01:24:32.840that uh there are connections with whether it's a randall's toe or with fiazi's eyes and there is
01:24:43.800a lot of speculation that those stars may be specific stars like the sirius or castor and
01:24:50.440pollux um but that is one of those things that was deeply lost or that was not overly emphasized
01:25:01.880in the poetic that it would be almost understood that fiazi's eyes is this star in the sky
01:25:13.300and everyone in this that's listening to the story just simply knows that there's no explanation
01:25:21.140um but nigel pennock also kind of speculates the division of the uh futhark and in the elder
01:25:34.360futhark specifically into 24 or 2 12s opens up a lot of possibilities of that interconnection um
01:25:46.760but it may have also been very regional that each group of folk may have interpreted the stars and
01:25:56.680and their connections to the gods very individually unfortunately it's just one of those things that
01:26:03.400was severed and and lost and now we generally you know look at the sky wondering was that fiazi's
01:26:15.000uh or eyes that they were talking about was that arendelle's toe um and all of these elements
01:26:24.680being astrological but i will say one other thing is that the mentioning of the stars being
01:26:31.000sparks of muspelheim and that they were cast into the great gap um is very fitting um the the land
01:26:44.040of fire the the realm of fire um or you know if we were to call it cosmic radiation or what have
01:26:51.880you this great scattering of the of the fire in the gap um but the concerns about their revolution
01:27:01.000always kind of tended back towards the north star towards polaris and polaris being this kind of
01:27:08.320central axis this strut between the middle world and the heavenly world and i think that that is
01:27:18.000deeply uh exemplified in the symbology of the ermine soul and where the uh if yggdrasil
01:27:28.840is the central line or the circulation the ermine soul amongst the germanic folks
01:27:36.000in this in central europe saw that as the strut of heaven um and that the polaric star was at the
01:27:45.460top of it and that all things moved around it and so that's really the only star that we find
01:27:56.120great adherence to its naming and to its functionality.
01:28:22.440i'm going to say uh uh separate those two real quick um if they are secular um i i think
01:28:33.500they're that's having a sense of racial identity there is nothing wrong with that i think that
01:28:42.600the media has tried to make identitarian spooky it's not it is that all people deserve to have
01:28:50.160an identity. All people will do it anyways. And for some reason you slap white on it and now it's
01:28:57.500bad. So that's a good start. But when you really continue deeper down without any spiritual
01:29:08.660connection to that identity, you end up losing, I think, something very, very valuable.
01:29:19.300Now, when it comes to atheistic sense, then I find that they are generally just biologically minded. And again, they lose something that I think is inherent in any successful identitarian movement is that there is more than just the material.
01:29:42.980There's more than just what we produce and there is more than what we just sell.
01:29:47.840And we can see it by the very nature of the things that our identity as a people produces.
01:29:57.460And so there's something that transcends just the material.
01:30:02.780So I find that if they don't have anything, perhaps because they're questioning, then I encourage.
01:30:11.040If they reject spirituality, I feel like they are handicapping themselves to seeing the world in very much the same tones as the capitalist, communist kind of polarics.
01:30:30.060Now, Christianity is a very interesting one because we spoke earlier about how the people have taken Christianity and changed it. And that's why you have European Christianity versus, say, Korean Christianity or Nigerian Christianity or West African or East Asian, to be better analogous to each other.
01:30:56.940These are very different forms of Christianity to each other. And that is because of the people. And you dig deep enough, you have to contend with some truths.
01:31:08.680And I have seen people create massive mental hoops to jump through in order to distance themselves away from the origin of or the definition of the origin of the people that this religion comes from, which is the Judahites or the Judahites, the Judeans.
01:31:33.480And then it always kind of boils down to, well, no, we are the new Judeans, or we are the new Udahites, or we are the new chosen ones.
01:31:54.200Right. Or the Christian identity folks who are the lost tribe of Israel. It all boils down and they cannot at all. And I guess it's just because they are so afraid of Yahweh's afterlife and the edicts thereof that they cannot conceptualize anything outside of that.0.99
01:32:23.040But then they run into the fact that they are reading the Torah and that Aramaic and Hebrew are parallel to each other.
01:32:35.240There is probably a pre-Aramaic Hebrew and then there is a post-Aramaic Hebrew.
01:32:42.360But no, Hebrew is an invented language, etc.
01:32:47.200They, you know, the usage of the word rabbi means, you know, nothing. It just means teacher. And it's just like biting their own next in an attempt to separate and then allocate themselves as the chosen people.
01:33:05.700And that is because it is very gratifying to certain people to be, oh, no, we're the chosen one. And then that allots so much that can be done. And in order to do that, they have to be able to separate themselves from other people.
01:33:24.400And so they will go to great lengths saying that every other person involved in this situation is a fake or, I guess, you know, like the Edomites or what have you.
01:33:36.960And it just gets very, very exhausting.0.93
01:33:40.440But at the end of the day, I do see that European Christians are still European.0.96
01:33:46.860I see that the things that they create are a product, I believe, of their European nature.0.92
01:33:54.400not of the christian nature and they contend with that a lot but still they the arts produced the
01:34:03.520buildings created um and it's not simply just out of some love for the religion there was
01:34:10.960absolutely political factors and lots of things that brought them into this honed scope of
01:34:21.600expressing european religiosity in that way and again if they have malice towards the the native
01:34:32.240religions of europe which they often do and they often have a deep malice for true like the roots
01:34:39.760of european nature um they they pick and choose uh you know oh the these guys were savages but0.90
01:34:48.240knights are great even though knights come from oath bound warriors of the pagan times um
01:34:56.080it causes a lot of that and i i've seen uh the rise and fall of that and i think that's the
01:35:01.840journey that they must go on that's the path that they must travel in order to learn and sometimes i
01:35:08.400don't think they they just kind of settle on what is best for them but it is
01:35:17.360the nature of the divine to be multiplicity and when it is worked down into singularity
01:35:24.160and then that singularity is postulated as there must be only one truth and all others are not
01:35:31.280truth and then that cannot be decided upon unless you jump through the mental hoops then a lot of
01:35:39.840folks lead to just non or agnostic or atheistic ideologies and it becomes this kind of boiling
01:35:50.640down of the complexities of the divine and that's because i think it it is more man-made as it goes
01:36:01.360as the stories that speak about the great cosmological movements of the gods becomes
01:36:07.600historical referencing and then the historical referencing kind of brittly falls away when
01:36:15.680there are new things added on and then people are like you know what i just i don't even know what
01:36:22.520to do with this i'm just going to focus on what i am and what i can see in the mirror and they end
01:36:30.440up bringing to this journey of their discovery of themselves only three quarter or one excuse me two
01:36:41.240thirds of the entirety because there is the the spirit that needs to be there it's not just the
01:36:48.440mind and the body and or or the the folk and the culture that they produce there there is a spirit
01:36:57.000there and in their lies uh even jung saw it they're in lies the gods they are there i think
01:37:07.240it scared him deeply and of course that time frame he had to be very careful how he contextualized
01:37:14.520the the idea of divinity being within a people um but he knew it was there and if you openly deny it
01:37:26.520or switch it with another people's you end up uh handicapping yourself greatly and
01:37:36.360that's why we're here to try to tell people to come home
01:37:42.760Yeah. The question is written in kind of an interesting way. It could imply all three of the, you know, atheist, secular and Christian simultaneously or each of them individually on really and truly.
01:38:05.800i don't know the difference between atheism that are being atheist and secular um
01:38:12.840so breaking it up into at first what do you think of white identitarians
01:38:21.320bravo i think that our people identifying as a folk realizing that we are a race and being proud
01:38:30.200and identifying with that i wish that for all of our folk i wish that for anyone
01:38:36.840to recognize who they are who their people are and to take pride and strengthen that
01:38:44.040that's the birthright of anyone and that is laudable um
01:43:28.680and seduced away from them the meat of inspiration.
01:43:35.200It's not described in a violent or gratuitous way,
01:43:41.380and that's an authentic part of our lore.
01:43:44.540The other piece, as we talked about earlier in the show,
01:43:48.440Saxo, you humorizes the gods in an absurd way.
01:43:52.940So all of our lore, in truth, comes to us and is at least compiled by, when I say all of our lore, all of our ancient lore comes to us at least compiled by Christian sources.
01:44:07.220Those were the ones who were doing the writing at the time.
01:44:10.960But there were some that were very authentic scholars.
01:44:14.200There were others that were cultural fans of our history and the history of our faith, even if they were not practicing elsewhere.
01:44:52.940But we don't base our faith and our understanding of the gods on the works of Saxo Grammaticus.
01:44:59.520That's a very strange text that doesn't portray the gods authentically.
01:45:08.140So if that's the case, then sure, I disavow Saxo.
01:45:13.060If you were talking about Gumbel, it's a very different kind of situation that I don't think that's a fair description of.
01:45:21.820But also, fundamentally, the gods aren't big Vikings having meaty copulation that's not, and I don't mean to be vulgar or impious in it, but we extend the imagery too far when we try to overlay overmuch human interaction.
01:45:49.040Fundamentally, this is divine forces of consciousness interacting with primal keepers of ancient magic and mystery, elemental forces of creation in the earth and the God's charming power and magical might from them in a particular way.
01:50:49.660And he goes into the mountain and he woos her.
01:50:53.300He gains the mead of poetry and then he flies out.
01:50:57.740These are all cosmological being brought into the context of mortal, not the other way around.
01:51:04.660And so when I hear folks say, well, why did he rape this person?
01:51:11.280They are working from there is a mortal person, Moses or Rabbi Yeshua, and that they have to constitute the divinity by saying there were witnesses that saw him heal the blind.
01:51:26.960or or what have you the directionality is completely different so um you go with that
01:51:35.840first off then you look at saxo grammaticus and you look at not was it he's maliciously turning
01:51:46.100things and he re-emphasizes i've spoken before tries to turn the gods into ancient crafty folk
01:51:54.420wizards who tricked the bumpkins before they were enlightened by the modern uh
01:52:02.740intelligence of rome and the uh processes that it did to come out of the middle east
01:52:09.860uh the religion itself so he goes in and says but there are details that were not mentioned
01:52:17.940if uh with render and the mentioning that she may be the queen of the uh ruthians or rugians
01:52:27.460and that is in reference to the modern day ukrainians so there's a geological spot and
01:52:34.900then it paints lord odin and all of this is done with a simple attempt to de
01:52:41.300construct and to dominionize the divinity of the gods and turn them into these mortal beings
01:52:53.420and strangely enough the the irony that i find in it is that they have to make these people more
01:53:02.000biblical and the but yet hold the bible in its highest standards and that's the part that they're
01:53:11.120missing when Lord Odin seduces Gunnloth. And of course, too, in the divine story by Snorri Stulloson,
01:53:22.320there is no rape on Rindur. There is the coupling that produces Vauli. What do these points represent?
01:53:32.580How does Lord Odin in producing each offspring that fits the very perfect cosmological point that is happening, but we are going to make it contexted in a tribal dispute, a wedding, a marriage, and what have you.
01:53:52.600And I think our ancestors understood that completely. That's what was being done. The great and the big were brought down into context.
01:54:01.480it wasn't trying to demand everyone around that these mortal people are gods instead later on
01:54:12.840there are people that said no these aren't gods these are mortal men and he was just a wizard
01:54:19.400he did these things and so on and so forth so that directionality is really really important
01:54:26.200And I think if you are raised as a Christian and you're reading the Bible, then you would look at mythos and not get the idea that these are not mortals.
01:54:40.940And you only see it a couple times in the Bible, Yahweh speaking into existence, or the conflict between Yahweh and his, what's it, Molochs.
01:54:55.400You call them angels. Angelos is a Greek word, means messengers, long in use before Christianity came to Europe.
01:55:05.520but the molochs so yahweh has a dispute with the molochs um in his creation over adam
01:55:13.040or adam and uh that's kind of that's the mythological that's the mythos that's the
01:55:20.320cosmic is there are things going on outside of our realm that are happening and then you know0.84
01:55:27.840there's the hasatan that formulates himself against uh yahweh because of the other malaks0.55
01:55:37.600and it just goes on and on and on that is mythos but then you look at uh the rabbi yeshua he healed0.93
01:55:46.800the blind and he did these miracles and that's a testament of trying to make mortals into gods and
01:55:56.160And you cannot have that directionality when you look at our stories.0.75
01:56:03.000And it gets even worse when it's malicious like Saxo was doing.
01:56:29.320So there was a question earlier about Judah, the point in which Yahweh was with Judah, but he could not expel the people of the field because of their iron chariots.
01:56:45.660Now, granted, this could be Yahweh or Judah or that they are both so interconnected yet still could not is one of the points I was making.
01:56:55.960But our point in the Halvamal saying do not over give is, in essence, a divine warning against the fallacy of Judah and that whole situation.0.56
01:57:13.340Because if you look at why Judah could not expel the people of the field, it always falls back to Yahweh was upset at them.0.82
01:57:23.520Yahweh, they did not have enough faith.0.76
01:57:26.860He didn't kill, maybe he missed a child or an animal that he was supposed to kill, and he left one sheep or one bird or one baby alive.
01:57:36.780which again you know the killing of the babies interesting points there that considering the
01:57:44.420other questions so for some reason yahweh was upset and that's why he was unable to expel
01:57:52.720the iron-wielded uh phoenicians canaanites or or what have you um and in the howl mullet says
01:58:02.960do not give over much and what that's really saying is do not try to create a false relationship
01:58:12.480that will cover the things that you must do for yourself you must act for yourself as well
01:58:19.880and if you over give if you slide into the concept that you're just going to be really
01:58:27.360really good at giving over to bloat that every uh problem you have is because the gods hate you
01:58:35.360and every blessing you have is because the gods love you no you need to attain those things on
01:58:43.840your own and the relationship must be reciprocal and it must be wise it's it's not wise to over
01:58:55.600bloat and then find yourself in an easier position to be able to blame the gods or blame the lack of
01:59:04.860your sacrificing or whatever you and you see it throughout history all the time oh i didn't
01:59:12.020sacrifice enough and that's why i didn't get the thing i wanted no you didn't get the thing you
01:59:17.720wanted because you didn't try hard enough and the gods want you to try the gods want you to do that
01:59:23.400and then in celebration you share gifts you share gifts with the gods you share gifts with your
01:59:30.900ancestors and you share gifts with your folk i think that those two are correlative and we see
01:59:36.620them in many semitic religions where why are the romans here why are they in the holy land
01:59:44.320it's because god hates us and this point of not over bloating too much not over sacrificing too
01:59:53.540much is basically the warning that you should not get into a comfortable position where all things
02:00:02.300are based on simply your relationship with the divine and that excuses your inability to
02:00:08.820go and act and let the gods see you act upon the world and they will have consequences good and bad
02:00:17.020so yeah i think it is an admonition against trying to leverage a transactional relationship
02:00:28.240with the gods like buying your way to blessings but i bloated a thousand oxen and i you know
02:00:38.780So, there is a tendency, and people used to be very, all right, start fresh, I'm not explaining very clearly here.
02:00:52.560So, there is a point of our work that talks about how a gift looks for a gift.
02:01:03.020Some translations render that as a gift demands a gift.
02:01:09.500and early in the resurgence of modern house and true there was a
02:01:17.900i don't think a well thought out or anything spirited you know off like gift demands a gift
02:01:24.300so i'm gonna give bloat and then gods have to give me blessings that's the wrong attitude
02:01:30.940to engage in devotional religion yes there is an obligation placed upon the receiver of gifts
02:01:38.780to reciprocate and to have a reciprocal gift-giving relationship.
02:01:45.300But it is wrong-headed and bad for you to try to force the gods to bless you
02:01:56.620because you gave them a bunch of mead instead of just a little bit of mead.
02:02:02.660It's also silly on the face of it, as if whatever you can bloat to the gods is somehow worthy of divinity reaching out and fixing all of your problems for you.
02:02:27.620And so this is true above as well as below.
02:02:32.660If you try to force your friends or your family to do things for you or to repay you by front-loading with a dishonest generosity because you're trying to leverage it so they help you out with something they don't want to do over here,
02:02:55.420say give you that's wrong and it's the wrong way to go about it and if that's in your heart
02:03:03.020you're trying to do then you might as well keep it it's not worth it it's it does you no good
02:03:08.780um i think it's worth stating on that as well there's no shortage of meat and asgard there's
02:03:15.740no shortage of you know incense there's no shortage of whatever you're blowing to the gods
02:03:23.740the point is the intention and if your intention is foul because you're trying to
02:06:08.520That's not the case in the Edda. In the Edda, it's okay. Well, whatever. We know this is, you know, these old tales of these humans or whatever. But anyways, let me tell you about the gods. And then they talk about the glory of our gods.
02:06:24.060They talk about the authentic nature of Auschwitz, and some of it comes in the intention of Snorri when he wrote.
02:06:31.340The intention of Saxo was to glorify the kings, the current ruling kings of Denmark,
02:06:39.000who had been Christian for the longest time period out of any of the Scandinavian nations,
02:06:44.760and to glorify them in how Christian they were and how great they were at later times.
02:06:51.580the point of Snorri was to celebrate the history and tradition of his people
02:06:57.980in a remote island that was preserving that kind of heritage.
02:07:03.960It was written in a proud celebratory way of the stories, tales, and scaldic arts of his ancestors.
02:07:12.940And you can tell by the tone quite a bit.
02:07:15.220But as I mentioned earlier in the show, Ausitru is about taking agency to make decisions and to take responsibility for your decisions.
02:07:23.980One of the things in examining our lore is to use discernment to figure out where things are trustworthy and where they're not.
02:07:32.300Where things match up with other bits of lore that we know.
02:07:36.240Where they match up with the history that we're aware of.
02:07:40.300Where they match up with archaeological find and things.
02:07:44.640there's a lot of things that you can do to kind of find touchstones to see if this is authentic
02:07:50.880or if this is, you know, a unique kind of strange case,
02:07:54.300or if the person writing it has good intentions or bad intentions as relates to our gods.
02:07:59.820And I think that's at play very much in this particular discussion.
02:08:04.880um how should a heathen process events like grief loss etc
02:08:14.560when do you often see heathens step away from their faith after difficulties in life
02:08:22.400do they often come back um and then there'll be a follow-up let's just
02:08:30.320let's just talk about that it's fun what what do you have to offer on that piece
02:08:37.060uh i don't think that uh you should step away from me i apologize i should have read the
02:08:43.540secondary question first it adds to this it's not its own question it's just context
02:08:48.100i see that christians have a great emphasis on processing their suffering and imbuing it with
02:08:53.880meaning sometimes i feel like heathenry is hollow there but it is possible i don't know enough about
02:08:59.660it. And that is why it seems hollow. Please continue. So I'm sorry for interrupting.
02:09:05.320No, I, um, I don't think, first off, I don't think you should ever fall away from your faith,
02:09:13.260but you must remember, Ausatru is built, we're not heathens, we're not pagans. Those are
02:09:20.160outsider words for things. I'm going to say Ausatru because that's what we are.
02:09:24.540And Ausatru is a socio-cultural, or I guess that's the same, it is an intertwined religion that applies itself to our physicality, to our interactions with each other, and the divine.
02:09:44.580So to sever yourself from the divine during grief is detrimental.
02:09:58.560You're just basically refusing to interact.
02:10:03.620However, we see there is the nature of heroism in the European folk soul that is often looked at very superficially when it comes to grief.
02:10:23.020um oftentimes the focus is not so much on grief or that certainly it's not that grief doesn't
02:10:31.120exist it's that heroes rise above heroes proceed on and that tragedies happen all over you must
02:10:39.240continue to attain and and slay the dragon or gain the horizon that's that heroicism
02:10:46.400There has been a deep saddening of heroicism into this martyrdom state, into the state of the philosophes who kind of helped Greek Jews become more angled to convert Gentiles.
02:11:09.760And so they focused greatly on these non-heroic traits.0.59
02:11:17.960Now, I'm not saying that grief and suffering are non-heroic.
02:11:21.440And actually, the contrary, we can see a lot of the great warriors of old tackling grief, tackling loss, and working their way through it.
02:11:37.140A perfect example would be Eil Skalagrim's son saga, in which he loses his son. And because he's a poet, he speaks at length about it.
02:11:50.740And I think that that's very important to look at because he is Ausatru in his time and that which is chronologically written down of him is what was said that he did.
02:12:08.440So his reactions, his sorrow, his recitation of poetry, but again, we cannot disconnect. We know that the sadness that we feel, the anguish that we feel is part of, and often a painful part, a part not to be celebrated, but we will to all be ancestors one day.
02:12:36.440So our joining with those who have gone on is inevitable. And so there is a kind of comfort in the reality of it.
02:12:49.480I think that modern Christianity and ancient Christianity are very different when it comes to like grieving and death, especially since, say, like Saul of Tarsus spoke about the souls of Christians and Jews going into the earth and waiting for judgment.
02:13:08.920And then over time, because it was morphed by European ideals, it became a triplicate world and there's a movement upwards and a gate and there's this place and there's the lake of fire off in the closet over there.
02:13:25.540that and and so there there becomes this mythos built in the in the faith and that is again trying
02:13:35.880to make a square peg hit fit a round hole but grief from the heroic versus the martyr or the um
02:13:48.980the the supplicants the whatever you might want to call it it's it is is unique and it i think takes
02:14:00.040effort on the practitioner's part the the person who is also through um to look or if they're not
02:14:10.140even out of truth they're outside of our faith and they look at the age of heroicism and they're
02:14:14.800like where's you know there's nothing here for grief there is I think it takes work to see it
02:14:22.300to know um and we see it in archaeology we see it in rune stones um erected to um ancestors or or to
02:14:34.300fathers or to sons who are lost in battle or or to disease or what have you there is so much that
02:14:44.460is uniquely and i can't speak for non-folk people in the middle east or further out but for the folk
02:14:52.860you can see it hasn't changed that much the only difference is is that there is no closing off
02:15:00.540away from your community there is no ability to cut off communication with your ancestors
02:15:05.580or the gods in actuality you should dive yourself wholeheartedly into your community
02:15:11.500as a support network and that comes from that ancient time when the the famine the winter
02:15:20.460you're on the threat of dying you fell into your community hospitality rules are another great
02:15:27.500sign of that so the age of heroism breeds that grief is built on interconnection with the
02:15:37.660community and knowing that you will be an ancestor one day and you will join your folk
02:15:45.020they will not be you know uh judged based on how much you know they did or did not follow these
02:15:55.420rules or wore clothing of a different thing um or they you know you will the inevitability of
02:16:05.820of you being with them is there so then you must rise up you must activate you must grow
02:16:12.780and you must make these um interconnections and i actually i just had a thought i was wondering
02:16:19.340the Marseillanites. I wonder if the Marseillanites did not consider the Old Testament authentic
02:16:26.540because it was written by Jews. I don't know, just the authenticity question was like
02:16:32.500rolling around in my head there. But no, I think that grief is absolutely expressed.
02:16:42.080it is just often we are so far removed from heroicism that we assume that they don't feel
02:16:49.440any sense of grief that they don't feel any sense of loss um and i think that that's a mistake and
02:16:57.680we can see that in ailskala grimson saga that it is very much real and he does the mistake he does
02:17:07.460the warning the warning is don't close yourself off and that's what he does and then when he comes
02:17:12.940back that's when he's able to heal himself so there's so much wrapped into this question
02:17:21.300all of the things that spawn said i think he talked about a lot of the things that are really
02:17:26.940important on it um part of the okay so just kind of going through the question how should a heathen
02:17:36.020process events like grief and loss etc you are comparing this with how christians process it
02:17:46.580and their conception of themselves in a large way is that they are bystanders watching
02:17:57.860the great events of life and things and that their god controls all the good things and all
02:18:02.740the bad things so you know why does god you know let bad things happen why doesn't he reward the
02:18:09.380good things why doesn't this why doesn't that some of those questions aren't the same you know so true
02:18:17.460because we don't believe that our gods are the one all-powerful god of the universe and that
02:21:45.320We don't acknowledge that this life is suffering and all bad, and if we work really hard, we can escape it.
02:21:51.680Or if we work really hard, we can store up treasures in heaven.
02:21:55.840No, we celebrate and we build treasures here in this world.
02:21:59.960Now, hopefully our deeds and the things that we do in the lives that we've lived build a reputation that precedes us in the next world.
02:22:09.860We hope that we live worthy so that our gods are proud of us, so that our ancestors are proud of us.
02:22:18.620But setbacks and grief and loss in this were opportunities to rise above.
02:22:25.140There are opportunities to succeed in spite of, and in doing so, to live heroically and to accomplish great things.
02:22:35.380Sometimes it is a greater testament to heroism if you are able to overcome adversity than if you've had everything handed to you and you don't have that adversity.
02:22:46.960So there's opportunity that comes with it to succeed in spite of setbacks.
02:25:12.200from micah hi i have a question about the prayer to ancestors i want to pray to my ancestors but
02:25:19.720i don't know any besides my past away grandmothers i also feel bad because i wasn't very connected
02:25:27.400to them while they were alive so how would you recommend i pray to them it's fine you have
02:25:33.480thoughts on that? Yes, I think, you know, starting organically first, as you interact, as you come
02:25:43.580to Hoffs, as you, as you go to events, and you meet other Ausitruer, and you learn things, as you go,
02:25:51.900things may change, and that's okay, you're growing, but start with what you can do, and what you know,
02:25:59.300If you have pictures of the ancestors you do know, and then perhaps you have some other symbol that could represent the ancestors you don't.
02:26:12.780Taking a physical icon and placing it out there and then speaking aloud your thoughts, your prayers becoming verbal, and then the gift.
02:35:55.460But that the directions connected to the land, that they came out of the land, that there is a deep connection between the land and directionality and energy of that, perhaps if you would consider like magnetic and rotational.
02:36:16.080And so the sky is the helm is the is that which they hold up. It's that which they brace up or brace out. So Vestry, Ostry, Sudry and Nordry, West, East, South and North. It is the land of the sun and the moon. It is the stars of the heaven of the wains and the winds.
02:36:42.300Now, I like that one, too. The wanes, of course, could have many meanings. The rise and fall, it could mean the chariots, chariots of the gods. It's the cyclical rise and fall. And of the winds, it's the helm or the house of the air and the earth and the sun.
02:37:07.420So it's the helm of the material world, the helm of the world, the helm of Midgard.
02:37:13.820So sang, our nor eroskald, so large of gifts never mounted, young lord of shields on the ship deck, beneath the ancient skull of Ymir, splendid, this prince's largest.
02:37:32.280And this, of course, is an excerpt from the poem, and he's focusing on the fact that it was spoken as the skull of Ymir, but he is speaking to a young prince on the ship, and he's referring to the sky.
02:37:48.620And as he sang again, bright grows the sun at dusking, the earth sinks into the darkness of the sea, the toil of Austria bursteth, all the ocean on the fells breaks.
02:38:06.640So the sun coming from the east, that the toil of the east holding the sky gives burst to the light, the day, and the sun.
02:39:19.880Thor. And the moonway neath him quivered. That's the excerpt that is being focused on. The moonway.
02:39:28.180So we have the sunway or the sun's plane. And now we have the moonway. And it shook. It quivered
02:39:35.980underneath him because he is the Lord of heaven and earth. And his might and his anger is so
02:39:45.440great that it shook the sky um then ormir baris scald uh he sang lady of drop near's gore streak
02:40:02.240however great i know him the wielder by right he ruleth of the wane's road sees him gladly
02:40:12.700Now, the Wayne's Road is the reference to the sky, and why we utilize the Raido rune as the rune of the priesthood is because of the allotment by the gods to set the heavenly wardens and all things into motion, that everything is on its track and everything is part of its construction of continuance.
02:40:40.660And the wanes road is just speaking of the rise and the fall and the turning of the earth and the turning of the sun and the semi-turning of the moon.
02:40:52.760But all of these motions are the wanes, the traveling and the cyclic nature.
02:40:58.080even as the scald bragi sang he who threw the dead eyes of thiazi skadi's father
02:41:09.120into the wind wide basin over the abodes of men folk many and that's that reference to
02:41:17.280what i believe is castor and pollux amongst the mediterraneans that thiazi's eyes are the stars
02:41:26.600of that same nomenclature but the wind wide basin is the poetic reference
02:41:35.000and marcus and as marcus sang tis long since the dear loved water of sea men was born of the waves
02:41:47.460girt earth bottom of the storm container that's the reference to the skies each man praises the
02:41:56.140sublime age of the ring dispenser the ring dispenser is the kings that the age of the king
02:42:04.620and um the seamen are the the sailors the viking the the skip alvar the men of the ships um and
02:42:16.500they you know give praise um to the water to lord thor to keep foul weather away and
02:42:26.020the storm container is uh the reference to the sky then stein uh heard this song saying
02:42:37.140I sing the holy ruler of the high world tent, rather than men, for very precious is he, his praises tell I.
02:42:51.220So now there is the holy ruler of the high world tent.
02:42:56.740Now, this could have two things, and we have to look at it honestly.
02:44:48.760Desire and pleading to the gods under this, you know, under this great sky tent, please watch over Hermann or Hermann, as it would be in modern.
02:45:04.840And as Arnor sang further, oh, excuse me, as Halvarður sang, Knutr wards the land, King Knut wards the land as the ruler of all wards in the radiant fell hall.