Two members of the Ossetree Folk Assembly, Tyler Bethea from North Carolina and Tyler Heinlein from Montana, join me to share their accounts of the devastating effects of Hurricane Helene on their communities and the people they met along the way.
00:12:08.060Part of what made Helene as bad as it was was the fact that for a couple days prior to the
00:12:16.340to the storm itself um we had had quite a bit of rain um as a matter of fact the week uh prior
00:12:24.560to the hurricane i was in montana for our national event out there the frayers harvest feast
00:12:30.320and my flight home was uh delayed a couple of hours um and on my on my flight home there was
00:12:40.700a lot of the turbulence and stuff as we were trying to fly through all the turbulence and all the storm clouds and such
00:12:50.840that I did not know were going to be dumping all that rain on my home.
00:13:01.400So between all of the rain that we got in the previous days and then the rain from the hurricane,
00:13:08.300We saw, I believe, two feet of rain. There were trillions of gallons of water dumped on our region.
00:13:20.360My father-in-law, he came over today and he told us that he had read a report that there was enough rain dumped on our region to cover the entire state under a couple of feet of water.
00:13:41.900And when you combine that with all of the high winds that we had, I think that the wind was almost as devastating as all the water was.
00:13:52.580Everywhere I went, there were down power poles, trees.
00:13:56.460There is not a road I've traveled on between the border of South Carolina all the way up to Virginia or Tennessee that had not had snapped power poles, lines in the road, and the debris of the trees and such just everywhere.
00:14:22.980That's part of what made this as bad as it was.
00:14:26.460was that a lot of roads were impassable.
00:14:30.140I live on kind of a top of a mountain,
00:14:33.020so in my area, all it was was all the trees and all the damage from the wind.
00:14:40.180But anywhere that was close to a creek or a river or a lake,
00:14:47.840Um, they, the damage from the water was just beyond anything I've ever imagined.
00:14:57.900Um, when you have a river on the, the, the, the, the coast or anywhere that's a low line area, um, the rain will, will cause the river to rise.
00:15:13.360sure, but when you add in all the mountains that we have around here, you have all the rain
00:15:20.340above that has to go down low as well, and with that, you get mudslides. I've seen whole
00:15:29.680mountainsides that have just washed away into the valley under it, and I think that's been the
00:15:35.780number one cause of death that we have had around here is the mudslides and the landslides.
00:17:53.680about a week um but the people down below me only a mile and a half away so like i said i live on
00:18:01.280the top of a mountain but when you got down to the bottom of my road that's the hungary river
00:18:07.740and that river just it just it destroyed everything in its path um the people there
00:18:17.520They were without power for about three weeks.
00:18:22.660They're not going to have a bridge to their little community of about 20 homes.
00:18:28.200They're not going to have a bridge there for an untold amount of time.
00:18:34.860They've been quoted $2 million to rebuild their bridge.
00:18:39.460And because it's a private road, the government is not going to handle that for them.
00:18:44.880Um, so 20 households have to come up with, uh, you know, 2 million bucks in order to be able to, uh, drive a vehicle, um, out of their home. Um, and this is not an isolated incident. There, there are hundreds of these cases. Um, so, uh, yeah, we've, we've done a lot of work. It's, uh, taken a lot of work to, to get to the point where we're at now.
00:19:14.880But I would ask that everybody try to keep this in the forefront of your minds.
00:19:29.540It's pretty easy with the way that we consume the content and the news and such now to where it's always we focus on the next thing and the next thing after that.
00:19:43.120and we don't take the time to think about, I wonder how those people in Appalachia are doing now.
00:19:51.700You know, the wintertime is right on our heels, and a lot of these homes are heated by the propane and such,
00:20:01.640and that's how they've got their gas stoves, they've got their gas logs in the fireplace, all this stuff,
00:20:08.440And the propane trucks, they can't go to a home where there's no bridge. They can't go to a home where there's no road because of a landslide anymore. So these people are going to have a very hard winter.
00:20:22.140um so i would ask that in the coming months um you continue to uh try to reach out to people
00:20:31.740and you continue to uh to to ask the questions of
00:20:37.720what do you need out of me how can i help you um because these people are going to need a lot of
00:20:45.440help in the coming months so i'm glad you said that because it's like you said that uh with the
00:20:50.880way that media and information is consumed now that everything comes in
00:20:55.48015 and 30 second clips and a lot of times we don't see the forest for the
00:20:59.940trees this is going to be a long road to recovery for those folks in Appalachia
00:21:04.860and the work is just beginning you were talking about private roads and private
00:21:11.180bridges and you know millions of dollars that they're not getting a lot of relief
00:21:16.200for especially nothing coming from the federal or state level a lot of it's
00:21:20.520coming through private donations so the other gentleman that's joining us tonight
00:21:25.140joins us from Montana Tyler Heinlein one of our folk builders out there an
00:21:29.760outstanding young man Tyler can you tell me how you found yourself wanting to
00:21:36.760take part in some relief efforts in Western North Carolina and you know tell
00:21:42.420us about that journey for you yeah absolutely so we were monitoring the
00:21:47.740situation because tyler bethea was right in the path and we've been waiting to hear from him and
00:21:53.180about 24 hours after the storm we started whispering hey you know maybe we need to send
00:21:58.160someone to check on him let's see if one local guys can get a hold of him within 48 hours of
00:22:03.220the storm we had finally heard back so we got we finally had on the ground intel and we heard how
00:22:09.480bad it was and it was it was a pretty straightforward decision the uh the gentleman that helped me with
00:22:17.000whole thing they are they are my brothers in a fraternity we run and one of our missions is
00:22:23.080to help our folk and it really is a requirement of our men we require a minimum of 40 hours
00:22:29.960within the year of service to our folk to even be part of this thing and this this is just what
00:22:36.040we've been preparing for is something like this where we can go and make a real difference for
00:22:39.960our people so as far as our response went within 48 hours we were planning concrete moves to
00:22:50.200actually get men on the ground to actually provide help with search and rescue and then
00:22:56.600rescue and recovery recovery distribution of supplies cleanup reinstatement of utilities
00:23:03.160managing lost livestock repairing fences so those livestock can get back to their farms
00:23:08.520getting these people's livelihoods saved if at all possible and this is a this is a process that's
00:23:15.640it's very fluid when you have a situation like this and it's important that we get there as
00:23:20.600soon as possible and that was one of the frustrations i had was how late i was in my
00:23:25.640departure because we had to get a vehicle for this work so i actually purchased a vehicle that
00:23:31.400had the proper lift kit the wench the off-road capabilities in order to actually get through
00:23:35.560these areas or i wouldn't even have made it to to the site as it got later on some of the bigger
00:23:41.480roads opened up and we were able to get more people in but initially these these roads were
00:23:46.120either roadblocks or completely destroyed and wiped off the map it was over 48 hours of driving
00:23:53.960when you factor in having to go pick up the vehicle and they're making my way down but
00:23:58.600But I would say about 33 hours were spent from my departure point, once we had the vehicle and all the supplies gathered up, and we drove down to actually getting there.
00:24:11.160And that was about six extra hours of driving just to get around all the roadblocks that destroyed bridges, the washed out highways.
00:24:18.560I think people need to understand the scale in which we're talking is that they and I, when we were going around to get these jobs done, the driving was the hardest part.
00:24:28.600I mean, don't get me wrong, pulling down a Widowmaker that's blocking the road and about to crush a house is difficult.
00:24:34.240Going and hiking and supplies is difficult.0.64
00:27:39.280And I think I was helping provide some oversight along with y'all's here, Goethe, on the donations coming in.
00:27:47.440And I may not have the exact number, but we raised in excess of, I believe, $5,000 to help those efforts.
00:27:58.060And it's like Mr. Heinlein said that, you know, we sacrifice what we can.
00:28:04.820And these gentlemen decided to sacrifice sweat, equity and time. And all we all we asked was that people sacrifice their their hard earned dollars.
00:28:17.920You know, people were also donating, I believe, supplies also through a store run fund.
00:28:24.800And, you know, all of those things are an act of an act of devotion toward trying to help our neighbors out.
00:28:33.720Again, myself living in central South Carolina, I mean, the rivers here are still absolutely swollen with Appalachian mud that's still washing down from 120 miles north of me.
00:28:45.540We saw swamps overrun and nothing to the level that they saw up in Appalachian, but there's still like a trickle down effect.
00:28:53.460Everything that dumped in that area is washing somewhere and is actually washing down here.
00:28:58.320So before we go any further, I want to recognize G.W. Farnsworth donated us five coffees.
00:29:17.680Did you guys witness any federal interference in local relief efforts?
00:29:21.680Bethea, I'm going to let you take that one.
00:29:22.940Okay. So personally, I have not witnessed any direct interference from the people on the ground that are still operating.
00:29:38.740We have a guy from Indiana, an AFA member who he came down two weeks ago.
00:29:48.120So he's been here for two weeks, and he has not left, and he was down the weekend prior to that.
00:29:55.640He had come down to help out with an organization who he linked up with.
00:30:03.880So he had come down the previous weekend, then he went home for a while, then he came back for two weeks, and he's still out in the field.
00:30:11.660He's actually camping out on location in order to be there, daylight too dark.
00:30:21.440And because he has the ability to go do these things 24-7, I don't, I've got a family, I need to be home at night, I have a job, I've got to work now.
00:30:33.380Now, he has told me that there have been areas where the government, this is really, this may be a little spicy, okay, but I think truth is important.
00:30:56.180and it's one of our virtues, government employees of various organizations would drive up,
00:31:07.380like in a pickup truck or a van, they're not hauling anything other than their lunches
00:31:15.420and their waters and such, and they'll go to a donation site or a drop-off where people,
00:31:21.860citizens. That's who's been doing everything is the people who live here and the people who come
00:31:28.280from Montana, Indiana, Georgia. The things everybody will bring in, they would go and
00:31:38.200take pictures with the supplies that were donated. They would go and pick up a case of water and
00:31:46.540have their picture taken or food and such um so that that is a thing that has happened um
00:31:55.740uh trust my source on that um there have been a lot of rumors um one one the rumor that i heard
00:32:05.180that has been the discounted was that um the government had gone into one of these isolated
00:32:16.380communities that was built on a river. All the roads in and out had to be on a river because
00:32:23.300they're at a very high elevation, and the mountains there, they're rugged to the point
00:32:29.760where you can't make a road in there. There wasn't a reason to make a road on these high
00:32:36.620mountains, so all the roads and all the houses and such are built on the river, and so all their
00:32:45.240The bridges are out, and they're completely isolated, and you had to either hike in or you had to be dropped out of a helicopter, which is what happened with the government, guys, as the rumor goes.
00:32:56.460The rumor says that the government had gone house to house to get supplies that people had donated, and they hoarded them all up in a local school, and they put razor wire on the top, collectivized it all, and told all the residents that you had to come here to get things, and we will pass them out.
00:33:21.280Um, the person who, uh, told me that, um, he asked me for supplies for being kind of off grid. Um, I'm an, I'm an outdoorsman, so I am well stocked. So I hooked him up and he thought he would have to like hike 12 miles. And he didn't, he, he, he, he, he drove all the way to the middle of town and none of the rumors are true.
00:33:51.020So there are a lot of rumors that are going around. There are rumors that the government has their roadblocks, and if you're coming in from out of the area, they will turn you away. That is not entirely true.
00:34:07.820I know that the path from out east of us, the direction of Charlotte, Raleigh, and the coast and such, that's been open for pretty much the whole time.
00:34:23.000We had a member of the AFA who lives in the Wilmington area.
00:34:28.080The hurricane hit Thursday night, and he was on my doorstep Wednesday morning, and he stayed for a number of days.
00:34:35.880And he drove all the way in. He brought a bunch of stuff. It wasn't confiscated. He didn't hit a roadblock or anything.
00:34:49.120But to the west of me, Tyler Heinlein, arriving 10 days after or so, he came in from the west side and he hit three roadblocks.
00:35:03.080Now, he was able to navigate that, but they were actively asking folks, why are you coming in here? What is your purpose? All this stuff.
00:35:15.980Um, so there are a lot of rumors, but the important thing to remember is that a lot of it is just rumors and that fear mongering and, you know, anti-government sentiment is going to be present anytime there's any kind of a disaster or anything.
00:35:36.000I will say that any time I have personally witnessed the government on the scene, whether it be the National Guard or government agencies, they have been acting in either a traffic cop kind of role or they have just been observing.
00:35:57.020I have not personally witnessed any of them, the rolling up sleeves to get to work.
00:36:03.680I've not witnessed them passing out anything.
00:36:08.720So that I will say, but I don't really call that interference more like just the machines of the cog are rusty and in need of a lubricant.
00:36:50.220I think when I look back to when I was younger, I'm in my mid-40s, so I came up during the rise of CNN and national cable outlets that broadcast news year-round, like the Weather Channel.
00:37:08.280And I remember in 1989, 88, something like that, that South Carolina got struck by Hurricane Hugo, which was a massive storm that absolutely just plastered the coast of South Carolina and all the way up into Charlotte.
00:37:28.800And I remember thinking how wild that was. And I remember that felt like a very isolated incident because we weren't as over-informed as we are now. And that's not to suggest that the storms haven't picked up in frequency or something like that in the years since then.
00:37:46.700And I'm not a geologist or I don't study weather, so I'm not an expert in any of these things.
00:37:52.640But I do think, you know, we're on a warming period.
00:37:56.200And I think that plays a big role in a lot of this stuff that we've seen more and more catastrophic storms in the southeastern United States.
00:38:06.420But, no, I don't think that that's I don't put that on the divine and I don't put that on these supernatural beings.
00:38:15.840i think it's just a natural occurring thing though i'm i am not a god so i don't know
00:38:22.960they haven't told me um sierra asks after being boots on the ground what supplies you say are
00:38:30.800needed most currently i'm gonna ask uh heineland to pick that question up i would say right now
00:38:37.680coats and blankets we're kind of in this mid game where a lot of the initial crises have
00:38:50.500been averted we we have good running water starting to flow in a lot of places in fact
00:38:56.520we were helping one of the families that was the lead engineer on getting one of the reservoirs
00:39:01.500back and we helped get his animals re re fenced in and we took a lot of the burn of his troubles
00:39:08.700off so he could go perform work that we just did not have the technical capability to do
00:39:13.100and so now that we have water flowing now that we have power coming back to places
00:39:18.300there's still communities are completely isolated and we're going to still continue to get them the
00:39:22.140same supplies you know food water purification tablets all that but for the most part right now
00:39:28.540we have a lot of people that are not going to have any access to good heating come this winter so
00:39:34.780warm clothes blankets that sort of thing it's going to be november as soon as you blink you
00:39:42.140blink again will be december these people are going to be cold i think there was 15 deaths
00:39:47.260first night it dipped below cross point due to hypothermia and that's not going to get
00:39:52.060it any better in areas that have received no sort of relief. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna echo that
00:40:01.260also. I know a lot of the folks that don't live in the southeastern United States, they have a
00:40:06.000general picture or view of, you know, the climate here. The Carolinas is a unique place that,
00:40:14.240you know, we have like the central and coastal part of it that's more subtropical. You start
00:40:19.400getting into the Appalachians and all that, it shifts a bit. It's the Appalachian mountain
00:40:25.740chain that keeps the central part and eastern part of the Carolinas as humid as it does
00:40:30.580because it helps keep that coastal air trapped over this part of the state or both states.
00:40:36.620When you go up into like the Mount Mitchell area, it's like a completely different climate
00:40:40.880than you have in the rest of the Carolinas. Tyler only lives about two hours away from
00:40:46.240me and i have left my house at you know 10 in the morning to uh to meet up with him for various afa
00:40:53.920activities and have seen the temperature drop 25 degrees uh just going up by 26 and into his area
00:41:02.320so it is a drastic difference in the uh in the climate there so they they get actual winter
00:41:08.000up there as whereas the this this part of the carolinas is particularly mild
00:41:13.200did you have anything you wanted to add to that what supplies you think are needed most currently
00:41:18.560tyler um so my guy on the ground here tom denton um he popped into the youtube chat here on the
00:41:29.360side i was just looking at my phone here to see the comments and he mentioned that um
00:41:35.360The number one item that has been asked for is a buddy heaters. So if if you know any of you have got the resources to procure heaters, whether you want to donate a heater or you will you want to donate some money.
00:41:55.000um please contact myself or a folk builder tyler heineland i believe that nick could probably
00:42:03.860put our uh our email addresses up here on this up here on this screen for you guys um
00:42:10.800please reach out to us um although the afa fundraiser is is now over um we do accept
00:42:21.300donations and we will make sure that uh that we are able to um procure heaters and we are able to
00:42:29.080get them into homes um i know the other day the temperature at night dropped down into
00:42:36.400the low 30s high 20s and we actually had um snow at our higher elevations um my guy on the ground
00:42:46.540here told me that he had personally witnessed, um, a house that had a hole in the roof and
00:42:53.120the family was living inside still, um, covered up with all the blankets that they could muster
00:43:00.100and it was snowing inside their house. Um, and they had small children. Um, my people
00:43:09.220or a proud people, they're not going to leave.
00:43:15.120So as long as they remain obstinate and want to tough it out,
00:43:48.380You need to think about winter supplies.
00:43:52.680I will add a note to that is that a lot of –
00:43:58.820uh uh that if you clothing it needs to be new um so i know that your heart may be in the right
00:44:13.460place to go into your closet or your dresser and pull out all your warm stuff and say
00:44:18.660i ain't worn this in a year or two i'm just going to donate it they're not going to accept it um
00:44:23.780and clothing they've got mountains of it um so what's what is really gonna help is like uh
00:44:31.460propane bottles for the propane stoves and uh buddy heaters that is the number one thing is
00:44:38.100buddy heaters um so anything that is not electric because there are still places that
00:44:44.340don't have power um but i do believe that for north carolina anyway um i don't know about you
00:44:53.140know other areas but for north carolina um power is back for the majority of of of people other
00:45:00.660than those who are the most remote or cut off because of the landslides or the bridges out um
00:45:10.580so uh just to hedge your bets a heater that does not need to be plugged into a wall to work would
00:45:19.220be would be a boon for these people yeah um and but while i've got the the floor i do want to give
00:45:29.300a shout out um you were mentioning earlier how it wasn't just the monetary donations it was supplies
00:45:38.260as well there were a lot of folks who donated supplies that we were able to get in here um
00:45:44.580I know that one of our members in Georgia, Jace Cameron, he came out here for a number of days.
00:45:56.700And when he did, he brought a lot of donations that were gathered by the Georgia guys that are around him.
00:46:04.260People like Russ Henderson, Gilbert Page, people like this all around him.
00:46:10.760Uh, Jordan Wells, um, his, his, uh, the brother and his wife, they, they pulled a lot of donations and he brought that stuff up with him.
00:46:21.160Um, Rachel Kinsler, her house was, uh, used to receive a bunch of donations by mail because the mail here was, as you could imagine, it was not, it was not running.
00:46:39.240um so it was not possible for donations to be mailed to my house even though i'm kind of in
00:46:45.320the middle of all of this um so donations would go to her house and tyler and i were able to make
00:46:52.820a drive you know up there do all the the detours and such in between us we uh crossed the mountains
00:47:01.280And we got a hold of the donations that were at her house that were also donated by members in the area.
00:47:13.900And they brought down a bunch of stuff as well.
00:47:18.540My living room was absolutely full to the brim of the donations, the cases of water, food, blankets.
00:47:27.120We had a big box of blankets, propane, the gasoline to put into generators and such.
00:47:35.860There was just a plethora of things that were donated.
00:47:41.160So I did want to mention that as well.
00:51:17.040But to be able to do anything, it's one of the best feelings in the world.
00:51:22.220It's hard to explain to people that haven't gotten their hands dirty how rewarding it is to put yourself out there, put yourself on the line and get these types of jobs done.
00:51:34.540and and you know the air quality in certain areas were were horrific we went through
00:51:40.700we went through a town where for a mile and a half around the the funeral home there was
00:51:47.260ash coating cars because it was running 24 7. i try not to talk too much about the grizzly
00:51:53.340parts of the job and that's obviously a limitation in some of the pictures we don't have because
00:51:58.060there's a lot of work wouldn't be appropriate to take pictures and that's it's it's another
00:52:01.820thing thinking back he goes oh man i wish i took a few more pictures so people would see what
00:52:06.540what this was like so they could understand how much they helped but at the same time while you're
00:52:11.980doing it you don't you're frustrated that you're even stopping to take pictures there's so much
00:52:16.780work needing to be done well i think you know getting the message out there through through
00:52:22.700visual means is is uh is absolutely necessary because i think i mean we live in a we live in
00:52:30.220day and age where we don't trust everything we see that comes across our screens whether it's from
00:52:34.940you know social media or you know national media or international media we can't always trust what
00:52:41.180we see when we see images from our guys on the ground uh looking at the just sheer devastation
00:52:49.500of that area and it brings a level of realism that i think a lot of people don't take these
00:52:55.340things seriously like you know i know when like uh these hurricanes you know strike the florida
00:53:01.340coast and we you know we've got a lot of folk that are in florida and we'll hit them up you know
00:53:05.820ahead of the storm hey you guys gonna be okay and they're like we deal with this all the time
00:53:10.620with the folks in the appalachian area that weren't expecting any of this and and a lot of times
00:53:17.100again because so many of our people you know don't live in this uh you know southeastern coastline
00:53:22.140area, they have a general idea of what these tropical storms and hurricanes do, but what they
00:53:29.760don't realize is what happens when they push that far inland and still maintain the level of strength
00:53:34.560that Helene did, and just the sheer devastation that it wrecked onto the Appalachian area,
00:53:41.600and, you know, I've got, you know, personal connections up in that same area. You know,
00:53:45.520my mom is from Oconee County. She's from the Piedmont Foothills area of South Carolina,
00:53:50.720So a lot of the places that, you know, we saw the devastation at places I'm very familiar with.
00:53:55.600I spent a lot of time in my childhood and in the years since like Chimney Rock is gone.
00:54:01.340And that was my that was my mother's favorite place to take me all the way up until I was a teenager.
00:54:08.120My great grandmother lived on Lake Hartwell and I spent, you know, a couple of summers up in the Oconee County area, which is right there in the foothills of Appalachians and all that.
00:54:18.660So that stuff's in my blood. And, you know, I have a passion about taking care of those folks out there because those people are my people.
00:54:27.040And although I wouldn't call myself an Appalachian guy, but I certainly am descended from Appalachian folk.
00:54:33.500You know, those are my mom's people and those are my people.
00:54:37.540And seeing, you know, two of two of our guys, you know, being the face of this just fills me with so much pride.
00:54:45.040You know, I've got, you know, on a personal note, I've got, you know, some personal connections to both of these gentlemen that you see on the screen.
00:54:52.440Both of them have been, you know, mentored by by me at some level or another.
00:54:59.020And seeing them put themselves out there, put themselves in harm's way, because that's something that we haven't talked about yet, is that, you know, just driving up there was absolutely dangerous, life threat.
00:55:10.520and not to mention the stuff that these young men were doing on the ground
00:55:15.560it was absolutely dangerous and you know chainsaws
00:55:19.540electrical lines and standing water and stuff like that don't need to go into all of it
00:55:23.440but you know these guys were putting their asses on the lines to get out there
00:55:27.340and do some stuff while a lot of folks sat on the sideline and just
00:55:30.740I wish I could do something when these guys decided if it ain't going to be us
00:55:34.640then who's it going to be so we're going to go back to some more
00:55:38.480the questions. Go through Trent East asked, did you gentlemen hold any sort of bloat or ritual
00:55:47.140for the folk during your relief efforts? And I'm going to expand on that. Did you guys
00:55:50.800get together for prayers beforehand or did you guys imbue this with any religious practice?
00:55:59.740And I'll start with, I'll start with Tom.
00:56:36.620As a matter of fact, one of the places that we did the majority of our work with in the early days was a local Baptist church that are some of the finest individuals I've ever had the pleasure of meeting.
00:56:51.020And I can't tell you how many times I was prayed over by a Baptist preacher before I got going on my work, which I'm grateful for.
00:56:59.400You know, that man's heart was full to bursting with a love for his people.
00:57:08.260So that did not offend me in the slightest.
00:57:10.460But on an also true note, yes, we did do prayers one night whenever we had the majority of our members together.
00:57:21.380Well, I say the majority. We had three AFA men who were also oathed into the Odenic order.
00:57:30.820So we did a bloat to the high one, and part of that bloat was expressing our gratitude that we got to help these people and a recognition of the, what's a good word, tenacity of the people that we were going in there to help.
00:57:58.740You know, they may not be of our faith, but there is a circle of our end and guard in which these people absolutely abide.
00:58:11.140They uphold our morals. They uphold our traditions and such.
00:58:15.820And it was an honor to be with them. And we we we we prayed that our efforts would be blessed.
00:58:24.920We prayed that what we did pleased our ancestors and pleased our Iser.
00:58:35.140Then on another night when we had some more of our members around, there were four members of the AFA there for this one.
01:06:46.120um i had a moment before tyler heinland or uh mr cameron came out um i was with one of our
01:07:03.340members from it from the wilmington area he had come out uh in pretty early days and we had
01:07:09.180hooked up with the local baptist church who these guys were running all the missions and such they
01:07:16.540have a radio station where uh the people could uh call in and they had a big white board where
01:07:24.140they would put all the missions and then all the people available with all of their
01:07:29.260skill sets and such and they would put the person to the mission and um
01:07:35.420Um, one of the jobs that we were tasked with was actually right here on my road.
01:07:43.180And, um, we were told that this was an elderly lady who, um, she was a teacher at a local
01:07:51.560school for years and years and that she was, you know, up there as a widow up there all
01:07:57.260by herself and that she was running out of gas for her generator.
01:08:01.300turns out it was a generac generator and it takes propane and we weren't ready for that
01:08:08.560we brought in a bunch of gasoline but um
01:08:11.820i i knew that that bridge was you know out to get across the hungary river which is a substantial
01:08:20.620river um and we were tasked with that job because it's my backyard
01:08:29.600that river's only 100 yards from your house correct no no no it's it's about a mile from
01:08:37.460my house yeah um that's that's where i that's where i deer hunt uh is down in there that's where
01:08:44.340our uh the game land starts so that's at the border of the government land okay um which goes
01:08:50.940all the way to the border with uh south carolina you're actually able to get up on the blue ridge
01:08:56.880escarpment and you look down and everything is flat so it's like the very edge of the mountains
01:09:02.560but anyway um my my my partner and i we took big backpacks um that would be used for like
01:09:11.660hiking on the appalachian trail these are 80 liter backpacks right and um we went up to the
01:09:19.420ladies at the church uh they were running a massive distribution hub and we had them just
01:09:26.820load us down with all the food um hygiene items uh all these things and um we were ready to walk
01:09:35.600in there so we made that journey down to where the bridge was out we crossed the river there
01:09:43.400We parked our vehicles, put the backpacks on our back, crossed the river.
01:09:48.580There was a footbridge there at that time, scaffolding, actually.
01:09:53.160And we walked across that, and we're on our way to walk in, and a man on a, we call them side-by-sides here.
01:10:02.080It's like a UTV that's four-wheel drive.
01:10:07.040It's like a four-wheeler hybrid type thing, right?
01:10:12.260I don't know how to explain it to you, but there was a local man on that thing, and he asked where we were going with the backpacks, and I gave him an address and the lady's name, and he said, well, I'm her neighbor.
01:10:27.280Why don't you throw your bags in the back, and I'll ride things up there, so we were appreciative of that, and we headed up to this lady's house way up at the top of the mountain,
01:10:39.060And then lots of parts of that road were kind of impassable if you didn't have kind of an all-terrain vehicle.
01:10:49.240And we got up there and we knocked on her door.
01:10:52.980And as soon as she opened it, she had tears in her eyes and was just so grateful.
01:10:57.500She was happy that somebody cared, that somebody remembered she was up there.
01:11:04.800And, you know, we told her that we had brought a bunch of things that Pastor Phillip had, you know, asked us to come out there.
01:11:15.660And we offloaded all the food in her garage and we kind of we laid out all the stuff.
01:11:23.580We're like, you know, any of this stuff that that, you know, you don't want that you're not going to eat, you know, all the all the cans of spam.
01:11:29.780You know, I made a joke like my wife would turn her nose up at all that spam.
01:11:36.080So if you want me to take that back with me, I will.
01:11:39.700So we let her pick through all the stuff and I repacked my backpack.
01:11:44.620And we stayed there for about two and a half hours.
01:11:52.400All this lady just showered us with affection and told us about how, you know, she hasn't even gone out there to the river where the bridge is out.
01:12:04.940She's not left her house, you know, in a week.
01:12:09.020And, you know, the spiritual experience in that for me is that we're coming up on the winter nights.
01:12:18.380A lot of us have already celebrated the winter nights.
01:12:21.420My kindred and I will be doing that this weekend in eastern Tennessee.
01:12:28.160Quick plug, if you're in the eastern Tennessee area and you'd like to attend the winter nights, email me at my email address.
01:25:40.320He broke a leg bone and he got the marrow out of it.
01:25:44.760So when the bones are hallowed and the goat is back together again and it has the lame leg,
01:25:54.300Osathor knows what had happened there.
01:25:57.120I thought it was very auspicious that the two goats were the ones who let us in, and then we saw one with a lame leg, and then we spent two and a half days on that operation.
01:26:15.080And after the night before having a bloat where we asked, we directly asked the Allfather for discernment and for a mission.
01:26:26.940And the next day, we were given a mission.
01:26:31.080So, yeah, I just wanted to add that in there.
01:30:34.880You know, they came there to get away from the sickness of the modern world.
01:30:42.820And some of their folks have been up there for generations upon generations upon generations.
01:30:49.020You know, my granddaddy lived on this hill. I ain't leaving it.
01:30:52.480But I think the best way to be prepared is be prepared to help each other when these disasters strike.
01:30:58.680Be ready to roll your sleeves up and help your brothers out that are struggling.
01:31:04.880be ready to dig deep and donate to causes that actually put the funds toward the charities that
01:31:12.160they say they do rather than keeping a percentage of it that's something i'm glad i'm glad i brought
01:31:17.760that up that's something i do want to bring up a lot of times when you donate to these you know
01:31:22.400bigger organizations uh whether they're government run or you know through private means if they
01:31:28.880raised, say, $10,000, there's only a couple of thousand of that will actually make it to the
01:31:34.680people that actually need it. Countless thousands of dollars go into the pockets of the people who
01:31:41.100organized those fundraisers. That is not so with the Office Tree Folk Assembly. Every penny that
01:31:47.100we raised went out to the guys on the ground to make sure this work got done. And the work has
01:31:54.380really just begun but uh but i want people to understand that that when arles harry or gothe
01:31:59.900runs a fundraiser there we don't keep a we don't keep a portion of that whether it's for the south
01:32:05.900african fund or whether it's for a disaster relief like this or whether it's families in need
01:32:12.620we don't keep any of that all that goes directly to the folks that need it
01:32:18.860but uh comment on that tyler go ahead and uh pick up on from where i left off there but
01:32:25.340yes sir um so another spicy take uh you got me on the show we're gonna have a little bit of spice
01:32:32.780if i'm i'm allowed to put a little bit of pepper on it um nick's got the shepherds have a lot of
01:32:39.900mess up so i mean that's not here so who cares
01:32:43.980yeah so we have a lot of uh our our detractors and such and i'm not going to call them as a true
01:32:55.980because they're not as a true if you're not afa then you're not as true preach but in the broader
01:33:01.020heathen sphere we have our detractors who will say that um that the effect
01:33:08.300grabbing your shekel and taking your money and that we're some kind of like televangelist
01:33:17.500group and i'm here to tell you that that is not true anything that we have ever asked for money
01:33:23.980for if you would take five minutes to look around at the things that we are asking for
01:33:32.860for your donations for, whether it be a project to build a steeple,
01:33:41.100whether it be to install statues of the father of modern Azzatru and his wife,
01:33:50.240who is still extremely active in our church, or the steeple project, or the relief fund.
01:34:00.100your money goes directly to these things and i for one am exhausted to the point of nausea
01:34:10.980with all the detractors that that say that we're just out to to you know to grab your money and
01:34:17.500that we pocket it and you know whatever all the all the all the rumors are you know who you are
01:34:24.020Um, I know you're listening and, uh, I hope that our relief, you know, effort is, uh, kind of irrefutable evidence that your money goes to what we tell you it goes to and that things like what we just did, that is not possible without the money.
01:34:46.940I don't like money either. I don't like the whole system and stuff, but we have to have the money to make it happen.
01:34:56.080If we had no donations for this project, we would not have been able to purchase the fuel and the bar oil to run our chainsaws.
01:35:08.980was we would not have had gas to to drive around all the roadblocks for a trip that should have
01:35:15.940been a half an hour is now an hour and a half so that means three times the amount of gas
01:35:23.340we wouldn't have had that gas we we we we would not have had any meals we would not have had
01:35:30.500anything to hand out to anybody there would have been no blankets no propane none of this would
01:35:39.500have happened so i hope that with that slideshow there and that you don't count us as a pack of
01:35:50.360liars you know up here just telling campfire stories that are completely false i hope that
01:35:57.360you believe us and that what we tell you that we did we actually did and that your donations
01:36:05.200went to what you earmarked them for um yeah i mean that's that's my hot take of the night is just
01:36:16.320i think that people like i said it wasn't like you know a portion went here a portion went there it
01:36:21.680right around 5 000 bucks went directly into this i'm yeah i mean all all total uh combined all the
01:36:31.500money raised we're we raised right around eight thousand dollars by all avenues and
01:36:40.200we used almost all that money there's a little bit little little left over and it will be earmarked
01:36:48.740the next time that we have a disaster that our folk encounter uh but i mean we raised eight
01:36:56.020you know eight thousand dollars in the span of two and a half weeks yeah because of the giving
01:37:03.940heart of our folk and that is where your money went it went to this and so i i i for one would
01:37:13.380like to see all the all the naysaying about the finances stop you know well not only that you
01:37:21.540know all the telegram channels all that stuff i want to ask those people what have you done
01:37:28.500could you where were you that was what i was going to piggyback off of right because where
01:37:34.180we're asking for that for that donation one of my favorite bits of our lore is the is the story of
01:37:40.820of the fairy where we have odin disguise and thor trying to cross and they get into a little bit of
01:37:46.540a an argument over their deeds one starts off says a great deed where were you the other responds
01:37:55.100and where were you the phrase and where with you has become a bit of a mantra for me i try to live
01:38:02.060my life in such a way that when someone has a problem with the way i live all i have to say
01:38:06.300is and where were you so for these opportunities this one being a very clear one when you have a
01:38:15.340problem with the way the relief effort was done if it's genuine come to me tell me we will workshop
01:38:20.780because we are preparing for the next one because there will always be a next one i'm looking forward
01:38:24.940to the day where there is a response that is adequate for what we're doing but for a couple
01:38:31.260guys in the woods with this with the limited time and supplies we had we did a great thing
01:38:35.500so i ask and where were you to bring it back to the original question of what can we do to be
01:38:40.140more prepared for the next one when we talk on a personal level i want to share a story i was
01:38:45.500conferred to just yesterday that came out of uh that cave area little girl 14 years old got stuck
01:38:55.900in a car with her with her father the tree pinned the car car shut and uh and down they were in a
01:39:05.660a drying up river bed when when they landed and this tree blocked them from from egressing
01:39:13.100but she had to stay in that car for a couple days0.99
01:39:18.060i only mentioned her staying in the car a couple days they were both stuck in the vehicle but she1.00
01:39:22.860she was the only one there that had any fight left to give so she had to sit in0.60
01:39:27.480that car with her past father and the only reason she lived was because her
01:39:31.840father was a man of forethought and he put a 72-hour kit in the back of his
01:39:36.300car so she had dry clothes food and water because he was a thinker you want
01:39:43.080to ask us what can we do to be better on the personal level it comes down to
01:39:47.820personal responsibility just be aware that whether it's a snowstorm power outage or a venezuela
01:39:55.740bosnia situation doesn't matter the scale it is your responsibility to take care of yourself and
01:40:00.060your family a couple small steps can put you in a good spot 72 hour kit in a car save that little
01:40:07.660girl's life might be something to consider that's on the micro on the macro what we're doing with
01:40:13.660with the Odenic Order of the Opidnar is we are making steps to be more prepared. So out of
01:40:19.160the fraternity's funds that are raised from our own members of the fraternity,
01:40:26.120just to be clear, they're not coming from your guys' funds. We're putting together kits so that
01:40:32.460our members all over have a backpack ready to go where they have the tools, the resources,
01:40:38.900and supplies to throw it on, and they are covered. They can go and they can do relief effort
01:40:42.800within 24 hours of a disaster hitting an area another thing is some of our guys are looking
01:40:48.980into additional training and there'll be some certain certs that get attached to our names to
01:40:54.520where when we hit those roadblocks all we have to do is show our paperwork and we get waved right on
01:40:58.560in we're given a section to work these steps are long-term steps but with everything that i do i
01:41:06.060try to do it with the most bang for buck we're doing it as quickly as we can but when the time
01:41:11.900comes we'll be double if not triple prepared from what we were this time i think a 48-hour response
01:41:17.740gathering funds gathering men gathering supplies and getting down there as quickly as we can
01:41:21.980was good for our first proving ground but there will be another one and we will be much more
01:41:26.700prepared in the meantime do us a favor and make sure that if you're going to be in the area that
01:41:31.660has a disaster which i know you don't have a lot of control over be one of the people that when
01:41:38.220guys like us knock on your door you go oh no i'm good but thank you it means a lot that you came
01:41:42.380here so-and-so needs help don't be the person that had nothing because they didn't think that
01:41:47.020the grocery store might have to restock eggs just think about these things ahead of time
01:41:55.580well said all right so russ asked how did this how did this experience change the way you think
01:42:03.660about and speak to others about tragic and traumatic events like this in the context of
01:42:08.460alsatree i'm gonna let the thay take that one i lost it there witten young what was the question
01:42:17.820sir how did this experience change the way you think about and speak to others about
01:42:23.100tragic and traumatic events and like this in the context of alsatree
01:42:26.780so one thing that i have uh talked about to multiple folks is uh three concepts
01:42:37.980two of them are our virtues one being self-reliance the other being victory and
01:42:45.260one of them is a concept of uh you know in and guard um when you get your runestones in your
01:42:53.020inbox. Make sure that you read all those articles because
01:42:56.940I focus on that a good bit, the In-N-Garthe concept.
01:43:06.120are of our fault but are not of our faith were actually
01:43:12.920talking about the In-N-Garthe concept without knowing
01:43:16.740what that word was. They talked about how
01:43:20.400they they cut their way out of their house first then they cut their way out of their neighborhood
01:43:27.660then they cut their way to the main road which is what we did here we we cut our way out of our
01:43:33.600driveway i had i had the trees down but behind my vehicle i cannot get out of my driveway till
01:43:40.600i cut those trees up uh once i got to my road right in front of my house was an enormous
01:43:48.460the red oak tree down in the yard my neighbors and i cut up to that tree we go down the road
01:43:56.220there's another tree then there's a power pole then there's another tree we cut all of that out
01:44:02.300as a collective then we go to the main road there are huge trees down that are blocking
01:44:08.860the main road we're working on the one side of the of the tree and a and a fire truck and a uh
01:44:20.060and a fire truck and a uh the utility the company truck are on the other side and they're working
01:44:27.020on that end and we go out and out and out and out this is what i heard from a lot of the uh
01:44:38.860The Christians who are in the area here were talking about Inningard.
01:44:42.660They were talking about I dealt with my family, then my neighbors, then my community, and they reverberated outward in a series of concentric circles, right?
01:44:54.360Which is, you know, often how we do explain the concept of Inningard is concentric circles that reverberate outwards.
01:45:02.140um so i guess that that to get back to the question um has it really changed the way that
01:45:12.900i think about things no but what it has done is it has the reaffirmed the way that i think about
01:45:20.280things um getting guard as a concept uh self-reliance the fact that you are no good
01:45:28.020to your community and to the people around you until you are a self-reliant individual
01:45:36.080and you are able to rely on yourself to get yourself out of things and then you're able
01:45:42.820to apply those same skills to your neighbors, your community, your family, etc.
01:45:50.000um this is just like the concept of a fascist right the fascist is a bundle of sticks or or
01:45:59.460rods that are around an axe in the middle all the all the rods around that axe are all of us
01:46:09.320and we have to be strong individual rods but one individual rod that's easy to to break now the
01:46:18.540stronger of a rod you are the harder you are to break but if all the rods in the fascists are are
01:46:27.180are stronger rods then we will be absolutely unbreakable we'll be as hard as concrete right
01:46:34.700um then the concept of uh victory or virtue of uh victory the 10th noble virtue that the afa has added
01:46:43.740I have seen victory after victory in the past almost a month now where there has been no obstacle that we could not overcome if we band together as a unit of men.
01:47:03.620At one point, a couple of weekends ago, I got a message that two organizations were going to be in the area that are pro-our-folk.
01:47:18.460One was the Nationalist Coalition, and the other was the Patriot Front.
01:47:23.340A couple of the men in those organizations, they knew me and said, hey, you're a local. You're on the ground. Can you come out with us?
01:47:33.620said of course you're here to help us out I'll roll with you and what you had
01:47:41.180was you had a band of men from all over the region I think the furthest away guy
01:47:46.800was out near Indiana all the way down to like Georgia and such but all these
01:47:55.880guys are there there's like 22 guys but every one of these men had uh had a self-reliance they they
01:48:05.400were strong individuals and they banded together as a collective and we were able to pursue victory
01:48:14.520and every task that we tackled in that day and some of them were very dangerous there were guys
01:48:20.760who were i mean we we had our med kits on the standby because we i did not have high hopes that
01:48:31.080everybody would walk away from that unscathed um but we were able to to make things happen
01:48:37.720and we were able to be victorious um so these are concepts that i've i have tried to speak about
01:48:50.760to the people that we have worked with,
01:48:52.820for the people that we have worked for.
01:48:55.960Self-reliance, victory, and the inning guard.
01:48:59.800I would say those are the main concepts
01:49:01.640that have been reinforced with my worldview
01:54:08.640So while those gentlemen were talking about House of True Heroes, they're most inspired by old or new.
01:54:18.280I would say I'm most inspired by Radbod, specifically for that moment where he was in the baptismal pool and the priest promised him that, you know, once he took the, he took the baptismal oath that he would get all these, you know, treasures in heaven.
01:54:36.140And he asked about where would his ancestors be?
01:54:38.520And the priest tells him that, well, they would be burning in hell because they were heathen.
01:54:42.240And he says, I'd rather burn in hell with my kin than to live in luxury in heaven with a den of snakes.
01:54:52.580So, I mean, that generation of Alcetruer, that generation of our people, faced obstacles that we don't understand.
01:55:03.180It's not to say that we don't face dangers for being who we are openly and honestly, but we certainly don't face the blade the way that those guys did.0.57
01:55:11.960And they and they faced it with dignity and honor and with the nobility expected of the Aryan man.
01:55:19.200And honorable mention would be living hero Stephen McNallan.
01:55:24.180He I can't imagine the the guts and the intestinal fortitude that it took to wake up one day and say, you know, everything I've been taught is a lie.
01:55:38.840And I'm going to strike out on my own.0.84
01:55:40.920We're going to start a religious movement right now.0.91
01:55:47.320Being the only guy in the world, at least in his eyes at the time, I'm going to start a whole new religious movement by myself and look at how far we've come as a result of that vision.
01:56:03.780Things have evolved and been tweaked along the way.
01:56:07.520uh but it all starts with that vision and you could even go further back to you know bond list
02:09:30.440And, again, there are leaves everywhere.
02:09:32.780So there were leaves on my porch, and I could hear the footsteps on the leaves.
02:09:38.500it's like damn there's somebody here there's somebody on my porch and i saw the beams of a
02:09:44.980flashlight coming in my windows so i grabbed the closest available firearm which happened to be an0.95
02:09:53.380ak-47 and i started heading towards my front door and my wife grabbed the flashlight i said turn1.00
02:10:00.900that thing off i said you're gonna open the uh front door and shine that light at eye level and1.00
02:10:08.060uh, on the count of three, open that fricking door and she, she opened it up and I brought1.00
02:10:13.960that rifle up and she got the light like right there. And, uh, it was my, my, my, my, my0.99
02:10:20.240best friend, Jordan. Uh, he, he was there and going, don't shoot. I was like, why didn't
02:10:28.780you knock on the fricking door? Like a normal person is like, I didn't want to wake your0.85
02:10:33.520kids up was like you wake the kids up or you get a hole in your chest man which is the better
02:10:39.120alternative here right and uh so we we brought him in the house and he was like
02:10:47.520your mom emily's mom everybody has been reaching out like we have not heard from them
02:10:54.320why don't you go up there because jordan's a lot like me he's a very self-reliant you know
02:11:00.720individual he's the guy you call if you have a problem so he made it up there he had mud all
02:11:07.040over his truck where he had to go off-roading to go through you know apple orchards and such
02:11:13.360in order to get to our house um but he made it there and uh we were real real grateful and he
02:11:21.120took us um to walhalla with him he loaded all of us in the back of his truck we drove to walhalla
02:11:28.640We picked up a generator, we got eggs, we got some meat, we got some milk, all that kind of stuff to do us for a number of days.
02:11:40.480We came back up, hooked a generator up, and life was back to reasonably the normal.
02:11:46.960Now, we didn't have lights, we didn't have air conditioning, but we had food and our food was cold and all that kind of stuff.
02:11:55.660you know it was fine but um yeah it was really interesting because we had the no phones in our
02:12:05.180area but if you drove an hour south boom you had phone service so i drove down south every day
02:12:13.760to uh try to folk build a little bit and then i realized that that just wasn't gonna work and so
02:12:20.460I said, hey, guys, I kind of need some time off. And that ended up being almost a month of me not doing my my AFA job.
02:12:29.660And I said, well, you know, if I'm not able to do my AFA work, which is how I serve my folk, then what I'm going to do is I'm I'm going to relieve the pressure on the people around me.
02:12:47.200and that's that's when we started the the disaster relief stuff it was like you know
02:12:54.260i've got to do something if if you know i can't do the afa thing because my phone's not working
02:13:01.080then uh i've got to do something because my people are hurting um and luckily i had enough
02:13:08.220my brothers in the afa who they felt the same way and they felt that that call and we were able to
02:13:14.680have some good help. So really grateful for all the people who donated either of their money or
02:13:23.640of their time. Y'all made a huge impact. I don't know if you realize how much of an impact all of
02:13:32.180you had, but you made a huge dent in a lot of lives. So I appreciate you. Awesome. And shout
02:13:43.100out to Jordan. I hope you're listening to this, watching this, and
02:13:47.080you hear my voice. We've got a spot for you.
02:16:20.640Do you feel like a particular God was there with you, or did you feel a particular connection with a particular God to help with your efforts?
02:16:33.100I saw the question in the chat earlier, and I'm trying to think on it.
02:16:38.860And I don't, I don't, I don't really think that there was a particular God that I, uh, in, in the way that it, it wasn't just one, you know, um, there were, there were elements of a handful, you know, um, I felt some odenic, you know, elements in that, um,
02:17:08.860kind of in the way of like auguries uh i'm not one to really get into auguries a whole bunch but
02:17:19.340i'm not in a region that has a bunch of ravens but uh there were times when i would help
02:17:26.660there was one time in particular where i helped an old man and uh i heard heard the ravens and
02:17:34.780they just would not shut up the whole time uh it was almost a a distraction um and this is an area
02:17:45.680where i've never heard a raven before ever plenty of crows for sure never a raven and i just heard
02:17:53.540ravens constantly and this old man was laying out plenty of wisdom you know and that that had me
02:18:48.440I wouldn't say that there was only one.
02:18:52.100There were quite a few of our ICer who had an influence.
02:18:57.060And not only our gods, but one of our runes as well.
02:19:04.700I remember speaking with Witten Young whenever we were beginning our work in earnest.
02:19:15.720He talked about the rune Kenos and how we needed to bear the flame.
02:19:23.940We needed to bear the torch, the light of our folk, the light of our church, and the light of our iser out into the world.
02:19:33.100And we needed to burn bright for our folk, for our gods, and the AFA.
02:19:40.120And that was a rune I meditated on constantly while we were doing our work was how can I be a beacon?
02:19:49.400and how can I be the bonfire on the mountaintop?
02:19:56.100You know, how can I light the way for our people?
02:20:00.740And it's not like I was, you know, out there trying to proselytize for our faith
02:20:07.040or trying to be some kind of evangelist or anything, because I really wasn't.
02:20:11.540You know, a lot of times we've paired up with a church,
02:20:14.680And I'm not trying to convert a devout man.
02:20:20.380I'm there to meet the man where he's at, and I'm there to work with him.
02:20:25.780But one thing I did kind of constantly is I tried to make sure that our focus, as we did this work,
02:20:36.280our focus was on our people and how much our people they need our help and how we need to be
02:20:44.360an example for everybody around us i tried to meditate on the the principles of the kenaz rune
02:20:58.040so so sorry go ahead dan one of the things that's cool about kenaz and and how we carry that
02:21:06.280it's it's about the way that i see things it's about carrying that torch beyond the illuminated
02:21:13.740path it's going into the dark you know into the darkness where there is no illumination
02:21:17.720it's being that that guy that lights up you know lights up the room that's that was previously
02:21:23.320you know not illuminated we're going past the safety of the torches lit by the people that
02:21:28.200came before us it's about being the guys pioneer almost the first guy there on
02:21:35.720the on the front line bearing that torch bearing that banner you know bearing the
02:21:41.140burden of our people and our gods and that torch is lit within we all have a
02:21:46.080divine spark that was given to us at our inception at the inception of our
02:21:50.580people and has been passed on from our all fire all the way down to us and it's
02:21:56.640about carrying that torch beyond the illuminated path the one that was illuminated before us you
02:22:01.840know it's clearing clearing the brush clearing the trees putting down torches and lighting the way
02:22:06.240for the people to come after us and it's also about being a beacon of nobility it's about being
02:22:11.840a beacon for who we stand for and you know like tyler was saying you know he wasn't out there
02:22:16.560trying to prosper a lot of times now if we happen to convert a guy or two awesome but most importantly
02:22:24.160he was out there as a representative of his ancestors,
02:22:28.200his gods, and his people. And he did that through bearing that torch
02:22:32.020as did Heinlein and the other guys. We haven't name dropped a bunch of the other
02:22:36.100guys. Those guys are just regular members. But we want to give shout
02:22:40.140outs to those guys too. And they know who they are. One of them was at my house
02:22:43.740a few days after. And actually he went back up the day after he was at my house
02:22:47.480to help with one more day of relief work.
02:22:51.100cool young man awesome and he just joined our church and rather than just join the church
02:22:58.600like okay now what i'm not decided to put you know put his hands on the shovel put his hands
02:23:03.580on the plow and get out there and get stuff done and i forgot that young that's pretty impressive
02:23:08.840um i appreciate you bringing that up uh tyler heinland do you have something to add to that
02:23:17.020I do. That young man that you mentioned just joined up. Well, it's funny you mention him because he showed a lot of really good inner strength, both work weekend and not. He had this little post, it was a post-workout picture, and he said, out here saving the world one day at a time, or something akin to that.
02:23:41.800and i was all fired up because we had seen some nasty things that day and i go you know what we
02:23:47.820need some guys in the ground i'm gonna call some people out so i ruffled some feathers in the men's
02:23:52.160chat just hey if you're able where are you i see this and i go you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna
02:23:57.740push the envelope a little i respond hey if you want to you want to save the world i got a small
02:24:01.500chunk in need of saving and he messaged me with what do you need when can i show up we went back
02:24:08.480and forth and he came out this is a man working two jobs providing for his son raising a good boy
02:24:16.340and raising him well and he dropped everything to come on out yeah people say you know hey i'm asked
02:24:23.960through thorsoff has some of the best words we have words and he showed up and he showed that
02:24:33.120he belonged to thorsoff so just wanted to give him a shout out since uh since we brought him up
02:24:37.280Because that man, he proved his mettle.
02:37:33.340When the time comes, do it for the next guy.
02:37:35.560To those of you that donated, I cannot express how much that made a difference.
02:37:43.080The relief efforts for the hurricane, be it rescue and recovery, packing supplies in,
02:37:50.260Dealing tree work, getting fences repaired, all of these things from the showboat heroics to the mundane work that had to be done in order to get people's livelihoods back on track, it changed lives.
02:38:05.900The supplies you donated, the tools that you donated, the funds that you donated that were then converted into commodities, supplies, and tools changed lives.
02:38:15.740When we talk about being asked to you, you have two choices.