00:39:22.960but i like it i like those kind of stories and i like those kind of incidents
00:39:29.760as long as they're not hurting anybody or doing anything you know all right so i'm gonna read
00:39:37.500one from Harold. It says, I have only two spooky instances in my life that are noteworthy. One
00:39:45.020involving a very old house in Pony, Montana, which I was advised of it having a presence in that
00:39:51.580domicile. Your basic spooky stuff, cabinets open, noises in the kitchen, your general run-of-the-mill
00:39:58.300spooky ghost qualifiers. I only spent a short time in this house and did experience light switches
00:40:05.060flicking on and off, but that's not the story I'm going to share with you today. The story I wish
00:40:10.460to share with you today. The story I wish to share with you takes place north of Missoula
00:40:15.060in the Rattlesnake River drainage when I worked trail cruise for Montana Conservation Corps
00:40:20.760in 2008. After a long day of moving earth with hand tools, I laid down in my sleeping bag on a
00:40:27.780full moon night body fatigued but mind and attention still sharply awake i laid out in
00:40:34.820my sleeping bag with one arm out of the bag and above my head as i watched the shadow cast from
00:40:40.260the moon to the tree branches casting crisp and layered shadows upon my tense rainfly you guys
00:40:47.220are so descriptive i love this i took note of how clear the shadow cast were in multi-dimensional
00:40:54.580layered effect the light projected for me to observe as the wind blew the branches in a nicely
00:41:00.660orchestrated rhythmic pattern. Suddenly and abrasively, I felt what could only be a rope
00:41:07.180lasso around my arm, which was above my head, tightened around my arm and began dragging me at
00:41:13.620high rates of speed, tent, sleeping bag, and all through the woods. I felt as my body smashed
00:41:19.720against trees, rock, earth, and subsequent impact. I felt bones break and felt pulverized
00:41:25.680and grated. The sound of horse galloping and wind blowing as I groaned in agony, knocking the wind
00:41:30.780out of me on each impact. The abuse went on for many seconds, when just as suddenly as the
00:41:37.360experience began, it just suddenly ended. As I regained my consciousness laying in the same spot
00:41:43.560I had begun. In my tents, in my sleeping bag, arm above my head, staying plainly at the roof
00:41:52.580of my tent, watching the rhythmic dance of the branch of the shadowscape. Had I briefly fallen
00:41:57.580asleep? I don't remember opening my eyes. They were already open when I regained my awareness.
00:42:03.880What was this experience? It felt very real. I did next what any rational man of pride would do.
00:42:10.720I stepped outside of my tent and marked my territory in a rugged manly fashion and claimed the space as my own.
00:42:19.020I laid back into my tent and laid awake for several hours, contemplating the potentiality of a spiritual attack by hostile indigenous land veteer and or the real possibility of inconvenient and untimely schizophrenia.
00:42:32.820I have since ruled out the later on account of a long history of normal rational life experiences since then.
00:42:39.700i still to this day i wonder about that experience i hope you will find the story
00:42:44.360sufficiently that is a great story that is great i like that what yeah i'd be in i'd be interested
00:42:56.080in the history of that spot yeah what type of things happened in the past or was it something
00:43:00.940he brought with him right experienced it from his family right or was it an echo from that area i
00:43:09.200mean that would have been like a spot where those kind of things were likely to happen you know in
00:43:16.700the modern day that can even happen in that area you know that's montana can still be some rugged
00:43:22.760countries or you know be some rugged country out there but yeah you know was that did you fall
00:43:29.360asleep for a second you know was that in was it an echo you know what was it that you experienced
00:43:35.020you know what happened over there you know that is amazing that is a great story harold if you're
00:43:41.340here if you're watching vns drop it in the chat tell us tell us if you ever researched that tell
00:43:48.460us if you found anything that is an amazing story speaking of the chat if you guys have anything
00:44:00.060that you do want us to air on here we do have all of these submissions but if you do have something
00:44:05.420drop it in the chat if if you didn't know that we were taking submissions tonight and you have
00:44:09.820a spooky story for us drop it in the chat and we will read it during the podcast
00:44:16.860oh sheila have you ever had any have you ever had those nights where you dream something
00:44:21.660and then you wake up and you're not a hundred percent sure if it was real or if you were
00:44:25.340dreaming you ever had that sure i have oh yeah yeah where it felt so very very real at least i
00:44:32.380know i get those still sometimes i don't dream very much anymore but every once in a while i
00:44:38.620have a very deep dream and it feels so real but um i don't sense you know doesn't seem to go anywhere
00:44:45.500but yeah i think those are fascinating how about you a lot i'm a very vivid and active dreamer
00:44:55.740and i'm i'm very into keeping that dream journal because i've had prophetic dreams
00:45:01.260so for example when i was really little i it was before my brother was born so i must have been
00:45:10.300three or four um and everybody used to make fun of me all the time because i had a dream
00:45:17.020that i went to work with my dad and we were uh walking through so you know like the movies where
00:45:25.260they have like the the the sewer systems where it's like a big circle and there's like two paths
00:45:30.380and then there's the water in between right so i had a dream that i went to work with my dad
00:45:36.060my biological dad and his job was to count water makes zero sense right like to a rational adult
00:45:44.620how do you count water that makes zero sense well when i was about five my dad started working for
00:45:52.380the ditch company which managed the irrigation canals through all of the area of montana that
00:45:58.300we lived in and he used to ride a ditch and he would do things like um you know put things into
00:46:06.780the canal to raise the water level um they had this thing that caught the moss had to make sure
00:46:13.100that worked so for a three-year-old who have no idea what that is that could very well be
00:46:19.100counting water it's just you know in my little brain that's how it manifested right
00:46:25.580and they're like yeah you said your dad counted water well he really kind of did
00:46:31.180but water levels that's counting that's kind of keeping track
00:46:35.980yeah he's going out into ditches and yeah the perceptive the craziest one i had was when i was
00:46:44.460little and when i was really really young and i even remember being young enough that when
00:46:51.100my grandma's brother, my grandmother's brother came to visit. His name was Sam and he was in the
00:46:57.760Navy. And they asked me what I wanted to do when I grew up. And I said, I want to join the military
00:47:04.900and I want to work on radars because I had had a dream that I worked on radars. And I remember
00:47:11.820sitting in front of this big radar screen, right? And it was the black and green screen, just like
00:47:18.940you see in the movies, right? And I remember I was working on the radar, but I was just sitting
00:47:24.600in front of it. I remember clearly. And I remember looking next to me and there was like chairs and
00:47:30.080there was more radars. And then I remember a man, a silhouette of a man standing in a lit doorway.
00:47:37.060Well, I was 18 years old. I joined the military, you know, and I went to technical training
00:47:44.000and I'm sitting in front of a mock radar screen, you know, controlling fake aircraft, you know,
00:47:53.220in a radar situation. And I looked over and it was the exact same scene. And I had written this
00:47:59.500down because it's very vivid. And I talked about it a lot. I want to work on radars. I want to work
00:48:04.400on radars. And I looked over and my instructor was leaning against the doorway that was backlit.
00:48:11.580you know and to this day that still sticks with me you know and it's just
00:48:16.880I get a lot of deja vu like you'll just stop for a minute and you're like whoa like this has
00:48:26.320happened before this is going to happen again right and you just feel like it's happened over
00:48:30.780and over and over and I think that a lot of that stuff if I go back in my dream journals I'll see
00:48:36.320it you know it'll be like that's where i got it from it's not that it actually already happened
00:48:41.520it's just like that was in a dream you know so you're a very very vivid dreamer if if you wake
00:48:48.800up in the morning and you remember those dreams take a minute and write them down because you just
00:48:54.800never know but you never know am i gonna say that i prophesize through dreams no because i'm kind of
00:49:03.280of like Nostradamus I don't know until it already happens and I have to go back and go oh wait there
00:49:08.160it is so I mean if we went off of my dream prophecies my cat's gonna fly tomorrow you know
00:49:16.280I mean I'm gonna have a Porsche you know yeah all right so let's see what we got in the comments
01:16:24.080i'm just gonna say something so we just had of course winter nights better nighter and um
01:16:32.000i was hoping to do something very special for both the morning bloat and the evening bloat and
01:16:39.280part of that was to do like a personal inventory you know just have people sitting on a piece of
01:16:44.480paper write down their blessings and then things they wanted to work on in their own life and how
01:16:49.760to do those steps i was focusing on those those rituals how to make them important and give value
01:16:58.400to people and i was typing this up and i was trying to print stuff off because i was finishing
01:17:04.720up all my plans all the things i needed and i was sitting at my computer and steve was upstairs
01:17:10.240sound asleep and i heard a really strange noise it sounded like pebbles or something like beans
01:17:19.760going and i could hear it was the only sound of the house and i waited and it happened again
01:17:31.360it was in the kitchen so i went to the kitchen and i walked over to where by the toaster and
01:17:36.800the coffee maker and i heard and then i stepped a little bit to the left and there was a box
01:17:44.320and in it are pills different kinds of pills we have lots of pills in our house but there was
01:17:50.080nothing nobody touched it you know i start going through the pills they're all soft tabs and not
01:17:54.240the type that will make but actually sounded like it was pebbles and you know it kind of goes back
01:18:02.880to a story i told last last time we were on about my my great grandmother who had passed
01:18:08.960It didn't say that back in 1962, but in 1993, she somehow appeared at my home and gave me a gift, and it was a hairnet, and it goes back to our Christmases with her, and I almost think that whatever I was doing was kind of connecting.
01:18:28.680so my story here is that sometimes it's the little things that you need to be aware of
01:18:34.760because also that weekend it's just been a week and a half um we used runes and i have my
01:18:42.100wonderful set of runes i use them for everything they're beautiful um handmade and and a special
01:18:48.940kind of oak and i had scooped up all the runes as i left the hof the other day they had been in a
01:18:56.300and put them into the bag brought the bag home put it over on my ancestors table the next morning
01:19:04.060steve and i are on the sofa i'm right in front of us we have a coffee table with glass top
01:19:09.100and there was a rune and i said steve did you put this here he said no i didn't do that
01:19:14.140and i said well i didn't do it either the rune was i was or he was the you rune you know the
01:19:20.940one that goes it goes that way and very very powerful in fact i think we had done that rune
01:19:28.300at the ritual and i had also taken that rune as my own rune at the very last rune that was drawn
01:19:36.380after the dc of load so um yeah went back with the rest of them but don't ask me how it got from
01:19:43.500in the bag right in front of me on i think was monday morning so it was little things it says
01:19:49.900you know there are the magnificent things the ghosts that walk through your house or whatever
01:19:54.140and there's those little subtle things that you could easily miss so i call them anomalies be
01:20:00.140aware of anomalies everybody and as you become more aware of them you're going to feel more
01:20:05.260connections and make interpretations that are meaningful for you and that's what i did that's
01:20:10.460how i kind of tied it back to ancestors trying to help me along getting ready for bloat and with
01:20:16.700that don't ask me why i haven't figured that one out yet but still it happened and i heard it
01:20:22.780happen it was almost right before me so there's my story maybe something just to get your attention
01:20:30.700maybe so yeah just let me know yes this is well i felt that had i not been doing that particular
01:20:36.940task it wouldn't have happened it was yes it was all part of the whole package of getting ready
01:20:42.380to do two blow blow tar the next day and really wanting to make them very distinct because one
01:20:49.340was for fathers one was for mothers and i did and i think i really i'm not one to do uh bloats to
01:20:59.740the gods you know i tend to i always do the goddesses right and we ladies do but i did and
01:21:06.140i did it to the fathers and it felt so natural to me because i was thinking about all of our fathers
01:21:11.900all those men who sacrificed so much who taught us who cared for us all those things and it was
01:21:17.980so easy to do that bloat it just just kind of flowed and came out of me and i think was a good
01:21:23.500one i really liked it all right we do have a question and then we're going to get into some
01:21:34.220poetry. Question is, what is the official as a true position on luck levels of black cats?
01:21:44.160Unless they all share a go, they correct me in the chat. There isn't one. We love them. We love
01:21:51.700them. I have the biggest, most beautiful black cat that is old and decrepit and does not know
01:22:00.340that she is a little heavier than she should be right oh yes so she loves to go outside
01:22:07.480you know she does and again she doesn't realize she's old and she doesn't realize that she's obese
01:22:14.200and i let her outside one day and i was sitting outside just hanging out and she was sitting
01:22:20.060there and the squirrels in our area have like turf wars you know like they fight each other
01:22:27.260and it's and it's like block wars with squirrels so the squirrel comes into the yard and my cat
01:22:33.820just automatically goes into predator mode you know keep in mind she's old and obese and she
01:22:40.780takes after this squirrel and the squirrel runs up this tree and then my cat takes a flying leap0.79
01:22:47.440she jumps about four inches and she latches onto the tree and like she's gonna climb the tree
01:22:52.180and then she realized she's old and obese and she just looked at me and hung there for a minute0.81
01:22:59.480and she looked at me like in sheer terror and then she just fell backward off the tree0.96
01:23:04.020oh wow oh she's hilarious yes what about you we have our own we have our own black cat she weighs
01:23:14.180about 21 pounds she's enormous and we love her and she talks to us especially in the morning and at
01:23:21.100night and um she you know will respond to us with a little sing-song meow and it's very sweet she
01:23:28.140loves to roll on her back and get her tummy rubbed and her tail pulled and uh she just kind of came
01:23:35.300to us we already had two cats we took her from a friend who uh was very very ill and we just
01:23:42.000loved that cat so anyway think about freya's cats of course no matter what size those cats are
01:23:47.680Of course we love cats, whatever color. I love, I love my cat. So another funny story about my
01:23:56.880obese black cat, right? She's on a diet and the diet is not working because she will play anybody0.99
01:24:07.780that walks into my house. She gets a small hand food of food, food in the morning. She gets a1.00
01:24:12.500small handful of food in the evening, right? And I always tell everybody if they come to my house,
01:24:18.860you know, I have people that like stay with me when there's events and stuff like that, you know,
01:24:22.220and I always tell them, I don't care how much she cries, how much she begs, she's been fed,
01:24:28.820leave her alone, do not give her more food, right? And she will just play the I'm famished0.99
01:24:35.320and mom forgot about me and I'm so abused and neglected. She plays this to the point where she0.96
01:24:41.880lays on the floor all stretched out in her big fat glory and she paws at her bowl and she flips1.00
01:24:49.980it and flips it and flips it like she is just completely malnourished like she'll flip it over1.00
01:24:56.220and she just goes mal like so dramatic
01:25:00.360but we have to tell people don't let her fool you she's not starving i promise oh yeah
01:25:09.480lana says my fat pug is the same always hungry
01:25:15.120oh right now we got some poems that we gonna we are going to read so nick submitted a poem
01:25:25.840and i'm going to read that for us okay and it's called grandma's rocking chair
01:25:31.600there's a room of pink and lace where ponies play and smiles on her face a young girl sits
01:25:39.940with dolls in hand dreaming of being in a fairy land in this quiet room where moonic
01:25:45.260moonlight glows a gentle shadow shadow comes and goes she lingers near with watchful eyes
01:25:51.840a granny's ghost time made wise she watched her grand girl with ribboned hair chasing butterflies
01:25:58.880through summer air through scraped up knees and bedtime prayers her love has always her love was
01:26:06.260always waiting there she saw her bloom and braided grace a vibrant young woman bright of face she
01:26:12.360watched her walk to make his horn a steady man so strong so grand through candlelit nights and
01:26:19.260lullabies she saw new babes born of twinkling eyes the same warm sport spark she once had known a
01:26:26.580piece of her in flesh and bone. The years like rivers moved along, great-grandchildren grew with
01:26:32.540voices strong, and still she stayed a quiet light, a loving soul in fading night. Children's laughter
01:26:41.160warmed the quiet air, where little feet danced everywhere. Through passing years, a mourn's love
01:26:47.700held true, but over time silver's hair the children knew. Now in her chair, she softly sways.
01:26:54.500now she's a grandma in her twilight days her children groan their laughter near she keeps the
01:27:01.220watch her own help dear as the rocking chair grew still the hurt the hearth was warm the house was
01:27:09.500chill the old one smiled her breath was gone but death was just the breaking dawn she turned her
01:27:16.560head no longer frail to see her granny though thin and pale no longer ghost but seen whole
01:27:24.160and true with arms outstretched like dew and eyes like dew smiles and hugs to women where time is
01:27:30.960none both old both young both newly spun a family returned that quiet presence now known grandmother
01:27:39.200granddaughter a new role now shown wow that's beautiful beautiful man yeah
01:27:46.000sheila do you see the uh private chat where monk's poem is in there otherwise i can read it too
01:27:55.800yeah i'm not sure i i can read that one i got it right okay so monk submitted one as well it says
01:28:03.900sadness sings the mind madness so so is the soul cold stone forges the heart the pain consumes it
01:28:10.080all dry tears fall before blind eyes broken body is a is a prison born no one no escape while sanity
01:28:19.040stands may the lady come for me to end the pain the world sings for me broken heart and in mind
01:28:25.280may she someday set me free you see my eternal love so i can hold her one more time no rest for
01:28:31.600the wicked no peace for the man mad unknown veteran oh monk someday someday she will sir
01:28:45.680right i think those are all of our submissions but there was a question i did want to ask you
01:28:50.480sheila um and it was like the children with not knowing that these things shouldn't be real right
01:28:57.680so if we have um if we have parents and their their children are you know telling them things
01:29:04.480what is the best way that you think you know as a parent having been a teacher working with young
01:29:09.280children um how do you recommend that parents handle that okay kind of start your question again
01:29:19.520is about about what is yeah when kids tell us oh i saw this or oh i dreamt this what is the
01:29:26.880best handle that do you think in your opinion you know i just think uh parents need to stop
01:29:34.560and pause and wonder if perhaps the kids are telling the truth at least the way they see it
01:29:41.120especially in a home that is an australia home where we do believe in the other powers other
01:29:49.520powers beyond us the holy powers and connection with the sir and our gods i mean our gods of
01:29:57.040course our ancestors and um even the place where we live you know we just it all comes together
01:30:05.200and children are thank goodness are perceptive to those kinds of things um i heard something
01:30:11.840interesting today and had to do with um the idea of telling children the truth and i forget what
01:30:21.280that was the topic was but the lady said you know we we tell them the pretend stories we tell them
01:30:28.720about santa claus we tell them about the tooth fairy and make them seem real to the kids and
01:30:36.640that's lying to them because they need to understand that that those things don't happen
01:30:43.520and i mean i understand it but i have to say um i love i love the idea of a santa claus or
01:30:51.360father christmas or father yule papa yule um when i had kindergartners they would be interviewed by
01:31:00.480uh typically a kid fifth eighth grade who would come and and help them uh find out what they want
01:31:08.640for what would they like for from santa claus or whatever and then the kid would write a letter
01:31:14.320back to them as an elf and all the elves were like strawberry bunny elf or you know candy cane elf
01:31:22.360and those kinds of things and i would roll them up scroll wise and they would suddenly appear with
01:31:28.980with uh little ice chips all over them having been delivered that like day before they took
01:31:35.040off and that's the kind of a teacher i was um i love using my imagination that's kind of the way
01:31:41.180i've always been and i'm not very grounded in a lot of ways but i don't know if it did harm i
01:31:47.660don't think my own kids uh we played up all the that that kind of mythology that kind of storytelling
01:31:54.220and i don't think it harmed them at all i just i think it's it's a very sweet part of childhood
01:32:00.380is and then of course they understand that it's part it makes it adds magic to the season to be
01:32:07.980able to do that with little kids the expectations get so much more exciting however as people
01:32:13.580approach you will um one thing that and we will probably be talking about but um witten's von
01:32:21.260harrell does for his children is that they have um i think multiple nights where they receive gifts
01:32:29.420and at least maybe one night where it's from the ancestors and a certain ancestor will bring them
01:32:34.780socks we'll bring them the hat and as somebody that they know and i think that's a lovely idea
01:32:40.620because it might be an ancestor the child has never heard of and so in a way we're doing that
01:32:45.980same kind of embellishment and making up fantasy but in that way then the child can learn about
01:32:52.620that ancestor what was who was person when did they live what it was like back then when that
01:32:58.060person lived and who was their family all those kinds of things and i think we all if we have
01:33:05.580children need to do something like that at least once during yule is to make sure that the children
01:33:12.140receive special gifts could be a book it could be some writing paper um slippers you know anything
01:33:19.340but it comes from a specific sign by specific ancestor you know with great love from you
01:33:25.340great at mabel kind of thing so i think that is a great idea we do you know we do the 12 days of
01:33:32.860yule at my house too and the kids have always gotten their presence are spread out between
01:33:38.220the first day and the last day of yule you know we don't have just one big day where we open them all
01:33:43.500um and it's just kind of like you know we never did the um the gift from the ancestors
01:33:51.100but i wish i had because that is brilliant that is great you know my kids are 18 and 19 now
01:34:00.100and they still leave their shoes out to get their their gold coins from crampus
01:34:05.820you know so those things carry on you know what i mean like if you leave your shoes out you got
01:34:11.980to check your shoes there's either coal you know or there's gold coins and we used i used to get
01:34:18.320the um go to the bank and get a roll of dollar coins because they're gold colored you know so
01:34:23.580the gold coins in there neat that's brilliant all right and we do have another poem that was
01:34:31.400submitted uh submitted by nick and it's called rest revere and reflect and it says fallen leaves
01:34:40.760ancient eyes silent earth to see your rise autumn's breath the twilight near whispers call
01:34:47.740the ancestors here the desir watch with knowing eyes guiding hands beneath dark skies falling
01:34:54.700leaves and misty air we honor those who once stood there hearth and hall their echoes stay in shadow
01:35:01.340dusk we find our way honored to seer fierce and wise through the veil your voices rise
01:35:06.860mother's past protect and guide in silent woods where shadows bide reflect remember we speak their
01:35:14.460names through quiet winds they stoke the flames reverence deep as nights grow long their strength
01:35:20.940within us ever strong winter nights a time to see the woven thread of ancestry that's beautiful it
01:35:28.140is gorgeous yeah those are long poems that he writes he does he's just a great writer and he
01:35:38.380does them every month he does the runestone yes you guys you guys gotta see the um so if you are
01:35:47.660interested in like nick's poetry um eric also writes really beautiful poetry but there's a
01:35:54.620poetry corner i believe in the runestone um nick producer nick are you can you pop on real quick
01:36:00.620tell us about that poetry corner and tell us how to submit to the runestone if you are a member of
01:36:06.060of the Astro Folk Assembly and you have poetry or things of that nature that you would like to submit.
01:36:12.220The runestone, sir, please pop in and let our folk know.
01:36:16.060Yeah. On the regular, it seems to just be the East Coast that writes the poetry.
01:36:23.740So the Thorshoth runestone for like two years now has had a poetry section
01:36:31.980where myself eric chris and occasionally aiden have submitted poetry um now that we have it's
01:36:41.980split between thor's off and phrase off there's technically two poetry corners now and the other
01:36:48.700districts could all have a poetry corner if people would submit poetry and like this month for
01:36:54.860instance we had miss jilly submitted one of the poems that we read tonight so it will be in the
01:37:00.620runestone coming up and yeah i've had one in it well once this next two runestones come out to
01:37:09.820finish the year it'll be for a solid two years straight um and if you want to anybody members
01:37:19.420can submit poetry or articles or artwork you want anything you want really if it would if it would
01:37:28.140be relevant to our folk um or interesting to our folk recipes craft projects if you're a small
01:37:38.940business owner or an entrepreneur and you've got something that might be relevant to our folk we
01:37:43.500can advertise that anything like that you can send to press at runestone.org uh for most any of it
01:37:51.580I'll probably run it by the Gothar, make sure it's good to go.
01:37:56.100But assuming it is, yep, just send whatever you want through and we will chat about it.
01:38:02.620Again, that is press at runestone.org or send it to myself or get you Sarah, one of the Gothar.