In this episode, we cover the poem "Henlo" by the Danish poet Henlo. This poem focuses on the relationship between the Holy Freya and the troll witch, Hildes, and the boar that she is riding.
00:07:03.240So there's a lot of questions as to exactly how and why this situation happened.
00:07:09.320It was pretty late on when it was recorded, but yet the poems, both poems, hold names and places that would most likely be linking all the way back to continental migration period Europe, including the Germans and the Goths, etc.
00:07:29.900So it is a very old poem, or at least the poet that constructed it may have had either verses or an extensive knowledge passed down to him about the origins or place names of many of the folk that are mentioned.
00:07:52.300But again, by this time, if the audience doesn't know who's being spoken of, sometimes it can kind of stop the poem's usage.
00:08:03.680And it becomes more about something that poets remember in order to learn verse.
00:08:10.620And I think that's the case with this one.
00:08:13.500This is a very interesting poem because it's focusing around the Holy Freya.0.53
00:08:18.880um and it involves her and a troll witch um and the the dichotomy of this is interesting on top
00:08:30.200of the reasonings why the holy freya is interacting with her and some of the things she says um
00:08:38.860Because, and it's not really stated until later on in the poem, that the boar that she is riding is not Hildesfien, it is a mortal or an arisen mortal, perhaps even an elevated mortal, that is a devout follower of the holy Freya.
00:09:05.920So she is attempting to interconnect him to the lines of his ancestors so that he may gain great power.
00:09:16.520And the entirety of this poem doesn't necessarily state that, you know, if he is mortal or if he is a risen.
00:09:24.780And it also brings the question with some other names dropped.
00:09:29.560But yeah, the poem is relatively short.
00:09:35.920and drop some interesting things there's also again names that may they could allude to other
00:09:42.460poems perhaps poems of kings of old from Denmark from Sweden from um continental Germany but they
00:09:51.980don't really go any further and that's why I was I was stating too that this might have been a poem
00:09:57.700that by the 14th or say 13th to 14th century, a lot of the meaning behind it was, was lost.
00:10:05.680Uh, another thing too, is some of the Kings that are mentioned are generally seen as legendary
00:10:12.020or mythical Kings that we don't know any origin of, or that they may have been spoken about
00:10:19.900in circles of of poets by the uh nordic period of our um the history of our religion so
00:10:30.780but that's about the thing that makes it interesting i i also wanted to bring up some
00:10:35.580topics that we can cover during the poem about um the nature of femininity the nature of um
00:10:44.540witchcraft and its its conceptualization so i thought it was kind of fitting that we're hitting
00:10:49.580this right near the secular holiday of of halloween um where uh we can kind of discuss
00:10:57.500some of these things that have been laid out and and my thoughts on um where our ancestors
00:11:05.980uh truly looked at a lot of these uh elements in in our um mythos and in our our uh kind of
00:11:15.660of ecology of, of spiritual beings, if you will.
00:11:24.900All right. Well, if we are all set and all ready, um, actually, before we get into it,
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00:12:57.920ready smart all right um so again i i gave a preface that uh this poem was fragmented and so
00:13:10.640it it's generally separated from the second poem and you'll you know as we go into and i think we
00:13:17.600covered this um with the halvamal that the the concept of poems kind of being played in or
00:13:26.560written on top of each other is a is a common issue uh that's presented and um
00:13:36.400in this case you know they they the including bellows and most everyone
00:13:41.600removes it in order to just speak the poem in its entirety and um the holy freya is now
00:13:52.000in essence riding up to this this cave not in heaven so most likely it would be indicated as
00:14:02.020being in Jotunheim and she is beckoning the troll witch Hindla of course who the
00:14:12.100poem's name is um uh mentioned and she is attempting to gain her uh wisdom and in doing so
00:14:23.580there becomes an exchange very very similar to say how lord odin and um threem or uh you know
00:14:57.360guile, and then the guile turns into this kind of
00:15:01.420revelation, if you will. So, we can start out on stanza one.
00:15:10.940Before we do, I want to make a little note just real quick. And I go over this often.
00:15:19.320We're starting to get into some of the more obscure bits of lore. And we get
00:15:25.900we get bits and pieces sometimes of things that are less less perfect than we like that are uh
00:15:35.580more fragmentary or you know with a lot of alterations and things what i
00:15:43.100this this may be i don't know a counterintuitive or a mutation of the you know saying to not miss
00:15:57.140the forest for the trees we're not always looking at the complete forest that's being given to us
00:16:05.000here yeah that's cool but the value of a lot of these pieces of lore aren't as religious instruction
00:16:13.480as much as they are familiarizing you with principles cosmology and mythic truths that
00:16:23.080the audience was well aware of that they're making reference to so a lot of the time when these are
00:16:29.560just and i say just and i don't mean it like that but some of this poetry is very much meant
00:16:36.040to preserve lore some of it's meant to entertain um there's different meanings behind each of
00:16:43.560these poems and that's worth consideration when we gauge them as morality plays or not
00:16:53.480But what I think is always present is the constant references and callbacks to things that our people knew as religious truths about their world, about their cosmos, about their gods.
00:17:11.540and that's very valuable so there's all these little bits and pieces so I guess in this yeah
00:17:17.520keep be mindful of the forest but also appreciate each of the trees because it's made up of these
00:17:24.280individual little pieces that are all valuable as
00:17:31.300like encapsulated little treasures of our mythos and our people's connection to their
00:17:41.380gods at the time all these little callbacks and references are things the audience would
00:17:46.900be familiar with and certainly the learned amongst the audience would be familiar with
00:17:52.600and and take note of and by immersing ourselves in our lore we immerse ourselves in our ancestors
00:18:03.880connection to their gods and i think that helps deepen our own connection
00:18:10.920i just want to put that out there please proceed yeah and to kind of piggyback a little bit too
00:18:17.800i think it's worth noting that by this time the editing of the poems the construction of the
00:18:26.600poems outside of the adas starts to get hit or miss as far as the exuberance is how it how it is
00:18:36.520it is um you know told or explained and the other thing too is i i think that there is an effect
00:18:45.000that takes place that's far more present you know when when people say oh you know snorty
00:18:50.120was a christian and he christianized i think one of the bigger things that goes on during this
00:18:57.400you know these poems is that um the the faith um is starting to turn and lose its power in the
00:19:07.960courts of the jarls um the money to be gained the power to be gained the wives to be gained from
00:19:18.120converting to christianity was really a top-down um sense of you know there was bribery there was
00:19:26.120um trickery there was you know money and power being thrown around um and when it hit the top
00:19:33.480and started to flow down into the the courts themselves i think that the the poets also
00:19:40.520started to show a sense of like a lackluster in speaking about the gods and um perhaps the
00:19:52.360one of the only reasons why it really stuck around is because they got to speak about warriors of old
00:19:57.720And so much like with the philosophes in Greece that make the dramas about the Greco-Roman gods more, you know, dramas about, you know, sexual exploits, etc.
00:20:17.980um that whole thing ends up kind of taking precedent more and more and more and soon
00:20:25.240the religiosity of the stories gives way to perhaps you know what the audiences are
00:20:33.400wanting or how at least it's perceived in the time they start to kind of drift away and emphasize
00:20:40.720different things so that's why you really need to pay attention to these those individual trees
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00:21:51.920So in this part here, the Holy Freya is riding out into the dredges, the darkness, the craggy
00:22:06.880of Jotunheim, and she rides upon a boar, a large boar, who is by her magic a man or an elevated soul
00:22:20.200who is taken to the shape of a boar. And the ultimate point of this is to attempt to find
00:22:29.660out his genealogy. And it is known by secret that the Holy Freya knows of this witch and knows of0.63
00:22:40.100her because it's lent to it in a certain sense here. And this is where we're going to really
00:22:44.880crack open some of the more darker sides of the goddess of beauty, the goddess of possession.
00:22:54.260so she knows where to go and she she rides there and um she dismounts from the boar
00:23:04.240and makes her way to the the maw of this cave and she speaks out she says maiden awake wake thee my
00:23:15.800friend my sister hindla in thou hollow cave already comes darkness and ride we must to valhall
00:23:25.240to seek the sacred hall so right out the gate there's some very interesting things there
00:23:31.160she calls her a friend and a sister and these are written at as is in the uh old norse translations
00:23:41.760So this could mean a couple of things, but the mystery of the Holy Freya versus, say, the Queen Frigg is that I think that there was not a besmirchment of her character by Christians, which I think is something that people immediately go to.
00:24:09.700I think it was placed out there by by unsavory, you know, or just people that have an agenda and they're, you know, oh, the reason why anything that's, you know, particularly wrong or dark or, you know, misaligned towards the Holy Freya is because Christians, you know, they hated women and they wanted to get rid of of her.
00:24:35.460I'm not saying that that's not true. But what I am saying is, is that there was probably fertile ground to do so in the essence that the Holy Freya is much like with Lord Odin amongst the Anglo-Saxons.0.67
00:24:54.560it was very easy to to make lord odin scary and connected to the devil and you know uh not to be
00:25:04.100trifled with not to make you know to to have these like issues where you would talk or interact
00:25:10.640because he was instantly seen as just a very scary divine and i think that that's the case
00:25:18.620that happens with the holy freya in scandinavia and um she she is seen as a friend to witches
00:25:30.220um that she knows of this and these that ultimately is one of the reasons why i constantly
00:25:37.660state that i do believe that the holy freya is if we were to talk about the domains or the
00:25:44.060the thrones of power and dominion in which the gods have one of the ones that the holy freya has
00:25:51.380is beauty but also possession or really what possession's true root is is is desire and greed
00:26:01.100the the the darker half of um what people will do in order to attain things and as and i think
00:28:31.000There's a balance to where the astral must master the chthonic.
00:28:37.200But there's value from digging deep into those things that are primal.
00:28:41.580Just because something is primal and comes from lust or comes from instinct or rage or frenzy isn't bad, but it's in the directedness of that.
00:28:59.920And you see that throughout and it develops in different ways throughout medieval magical practice.
00:29:09.280You see it in a lot of different things.
00:29:11.000The idea of, you know, the masculine force subsuming the feminine force and directing it in mastery.
00:29:19.940You see it a lot in the, I think it's one of the mysteries behind the Ekhwa's rune with the rider and the horse.
00:29:38.440There's a rider and then there's a steed that it rides.
00:29:42.460the combination of the two makes an unstoppable machine of will and destruction and overcoming
00:29:50.620but it's because the balance and the direction um so just because something is using
00:30:01.340the primal primal forces in a sense of overcoming doesn't necessarily put it in a state of
00:30:10.300of of evil or bad but it's really interesting how these things are used and when we
00:30:18.140hear elsewhere in the lore of the kind of magical exchange between lady freya and lord odin
00:30:28.220the exchanging of understanding these magical things the very nature of seether is
00:30:34.700being being oracular being a vessel for possession and you really see that a lot of these
00:30:48.620subtle elements here and i think it's kind of laid out in here i just wanted to i don't know
00:30:53.220if any of that made sense i hope it did and uh if it did i may harken back to it at something
00:30:58.720but there you go well i wanted to definitely jump on because it does make sense that what you said
00:31:05.860there is an attempt i think now by certain folks to clean up um what they believe
00:31:15.060the holy freya should be so again that we've talked about jamming um the gods into frameworks
00:31:22.320and there's this attempt to, holy moly, see, sorry, I just, the mug, I wasn't trying, but
00:31:32.360I was definitely outdone. You got the eagle and on the owl. I wasn't even trying, but
00:31:38.920this has become a thing now. You started it. I wasn't on purpose, but that's good. You cover
00:31:48.160the sun and i i shall cover the night um um they yeah so there's an image that they're attempting0.96
00:31:57.000to kind of place the holy freya in and remove her away from um the the powers of possession and the
00:32:07.380powers of desire and move her into more of a box of perhaps a vest a vestal um not vestal virgin0.83
00:32:16.600but a Vestal maiden. And when there's clear connections that Seder is uniformly tied and
00:32:28.580intricately woven into her being and what she brings to the gods. So you find these people
00:32:38.260trying to distance her from Seder, and then they're trying to take Seder and turn it into
00:32:44.480kind of like the devil's work versus, um, the God's work via Heimdallr and saying, you know,
00:32:52.920the Heimdallr brings, you know, runes and goodness and Seder was brought by, you know,
00:32:58.440witches and evil. And, uh, they're trying to, to polarize things, um, and paint things with
00:33:04.700broad strokes when that's clearly not the case. And we should be very skeptical of this,
00:33:11.760this ideological thought because i think even though our ancestors definitely had a concept of
00:33:18.640the evil feminine uh just as much as they did the evil masculine that doesn't as you said doesn't
00:33:25.520predicate that certain things based off of emotion are are immediately evil and so people that try to
00:33:32.960jam the the the holy gods into these boxes are doing so under a a desire to create or to agenda
00:33:42.000agenda size um i don't even know if that's a word to to to formulate agenda um to to whatever ends
00:33:50.080they're trying to make and so i think that's um egregious and uh and and and wrong thinking
00:33:59.520when it comes to the way that uh the divine and and observing the divine should be placed the i
00:34:06.320think the also true focal assembly and you especially have consistently railed the framework
00:34:13.280of the way that we look at the divine is very important because it it predicates how we are
00:34:21.200going to move forward and when you start getting that where there's the jamming in the boxes there's
00:34:28.160um there's not a lot of uh you know self-reflection but giant proclamations uh right out of the gate
00:34:34.400from books that are written down and and and just that's you know once you write it down that's what
00:34:39.760you get and these people are i think uh even though they're not being scrutinized for it they
00:34:47.120should be and perhaps the way that we are speaking about the divine should be looked at maybe people
00:34:51.920should consider more how the astrotrual folk assembly looks at our gods and our religion before
00:34:57.600we speak in these grand proclamations um and i i you know there is a deep connection between
00:35:06.080the the holy freya and witchery or um nor a nornier you know the spinning of of fate and um
00:35:16.560Important linguistic note, you said Nornir. What does Norn mean in East Linsku and Old Norse?
00:35:29.260Yeah, it means which. It is parallel to the same significance of meaning. It's not linguistically connected, but it has the same premise of the twining or the rolling of thread. And of course, the thread indicating fate.
00:35:49.860and this applies on multiple levels. The Nornir, the three that we know of, the origin of time
00:35:57.920at the well in heaven, they are the twisters of fate for all, but we know of the Deesir.0.94
00:36:08.320We know that the Holy Freya is, she is called the Vanadis. The title itself could be utilized
00:36:16.340for anyone who has the ability to turn and twist fate around themselves or for their people or for
00:36:24.900those like of their bloodline, like an ancestral desir. It indicates a power that shows
00:36:36.120that they have an ability to do these things. Whether or not it's willful or whether or not
00:36:43.140it's based off of um actions well again if we have the will to do something and then we commit a deed
00:36:49.700and that deed then creates other effects and those effects now have to be twined together
00:36:56.080that would be what some people would call for the nornir a reactive sense and then other people
00:37:03.000might say that if you could bid the nornir or your dc or any any of the the fates that that move
00:37:12.380things that if you could bid them to do things, then they have a willful place. And so I would
00:37:20.560say that's, that's an interesting topic to consider whether or not when it comes to the
00:37:27.000process, whether it's, it's willful or whether it's more reactive to, to action, but yeah,
00:37:35.800And a Nornir, so like, for instance, for Hexenacht that we normally title our holy tide that's
00:37:45.000really dedicated to the Holy Freya, it would be completely within the confines of logic
00:37:53.220to also call it like Nornirnacht, and that would be the same thing, Witches' Night.
00:38:00.540Hexenacht, of course, is the German version, and, you know, it can...
00:38:05.800you know i i think that we are we could use you know like even uh which are not or uh knocked i
00:38:12.200can't quite remember how it is in anglo-saxon but um and it would have the same leveled sense
00:38:18.920so something that at the risk of belaboring this over much that's what i mean this some of the
00:38:26.920value of some of this lore is it brings up it brings up these subjects and especially some
00:38:33.720of the value of going over it together um one of the keys to
00:38:44.520female efficacy in the mundane and in the magical is the idea of leaving things
00:38:54.280we talk about women within the afa ideally in the best of circumstances being frith weavers1.00
00:38:59.800because they're able to weave those bonds between men, between families.
00:39:07.060The idea of weaving fate, weaving magical will into the weft of the tapestry of our existence
00:39:20.360is a fundamental theme that we see time and again.
00:39:24.040And we even see Frigg with the weaving element, with the distaff and the idea of weaving.
00:39:34.240So this is a very, very important concept to female interaction on the subtle and on the more physical plane.
00:39:48.160I don't want to beliger it more, but you keep opening up more ideas and thoughts every time you say something, because it does make me think.
00:39:57.820The other part is the thrones of the tripartite do not confine simply, well, the gods aren't confined to anything, but the tripartite is kind of, again, how we organize it.
00:40:09.760But this applies to not just the tripartite.
00:40:12.840Here we see the holy Freya moving between realms.
00:40:17.560She is out of heaven. She has gone to the middle world, or at least it is presumed, and she is going into the east. So she takes on a dynamic role. And what we find is any of the holy gods that we predominantly see as being in stasis form have very little that besmirches their character as far as in the stories go.
00:40:44.580if you think about Lord Heimdall and how he comes down and he elevates or rig, you know, he lifts up
00:40:52.680the folk. He does this, but predominantly he's in stasis. Same with Lord Tyr. There's very little,
00:41:03.020and it seems to be that with movement, movement creates weird or creates, or law creates deed.
00:41:10.500And with that comes, you know, again, this kind of overall sense, Lord Odin, the Holy Freyja, and even Lord Thor, as he moves in.
00:41:21.980And everyone knows he's the, you know, benefit or I guess, excuse me, the benevolence of Thor, but also the scary possibility.
00:41:36.980Oh, we're talking about Holy Freya and then the cats appear.
00:41:43.440Yeah, we got a new kitten earlier this afternoon.
00:43:46.200the favor of the hair your father seek we to find
00:43:50.600To his followers, gold he gladly gives. To Hermoth gave he the helm and mail coat. And to Sigmund, he gave a sword as a gift.
00:44:03.020So just a little note on that. Sometimes people will see Hermoth, who is clearly in Baldurström, about going down into, or excuse me, after the burial, he goes down into the underworld.
00:44:23.680the general sense is he's often listed as a son of odin and all of these names mentioned are again
00:44:34.280the the kingly connections to lord odin um save perhaps one that's mentioned um which would be
00:44:45.260towards um the holy fray but that doesn't exclude them to be the sons of lord odin and that's that's
00:44:56.220clearly that that's what's being stated but are they seen as as gods in the sense of the same
00:45:04.060ilk or are they elevated souls um returning to the upper realm and i think that's more of the
00:45:11.340of the, um, the case. We see this also too with Meili. Meili is mentioned as being the son of Lord
00:45:18.320Odin, um, and more, more than likely he is an elevated soul that is, was once treading in Midgard
00:45:27.440in physical form and was then elevated thereafter and brought up and anointed by the holy gods to,
00:45:34.880to preside there. Um, and we, we do this through comparison. Clearly she mentions Hermodi and she
00:45:44.680mentions Sigmundi. And, um, you know, we know of Sigmund from Sig, uh, Sigurd, the, the, uh,
00:45:53.120the dragon slayer. His father was gifted the sword that eventually led him to victory and that, or
00:46:00.020led him to meet Lord Odin in death and his son to victory.
00:46:50.680That's what, it doesn't say that, but that's what she's implying.
00:46:53.140He gives triumph to some and treasure to others.
00:46:56.480to many wisdom and skill in words, fair winds to the sailor, to the singer his art,
00:47:04.200and a manly heart to many a hero. So one might notice fair winds to the sailor.
00:47:12.620You know, isn't that, you know, the propensity of Lord Nyordur? Why is she saying that Lord
00:47:20.440And that's because the gods can pick up the elements of Midgard, of all of the nine worlds. They interact with the primordial elements of the worlds that doesn't make them strictly, you know, lord of plants or lord of, I don't know, rocks.
00:47:48.120or however people kind of have that primitive sense of looking at the gods because, well, in reality, we've kind of been, you know, conditioned to think of the gods that way.
00:48:01.120But instead, you know, it is extremely powerful beings that are able to shift the oar log in Earth's well.
00:48:12.040They're able to make the ripples in the water and those ripples have effects.
00:48:16.600and that's how they manifest their will into Midgard unless they physically come here which
00:48:22.560they can um but you you kind of see that the all of the gods have the ability to move the
00:48:29.180the primordial stuffs of the universe um based on uh as like an artist would move paint or a
00:48:39.920sculptor would would shape stone um and here you know it is saying that you can you know pray to
00:48:47.600lord odin for good winds fair winds um and we see that a lot in his in his height these as well so
00:48:54.580um so she says you know triumph to some and treasures to others to many wisdom and skill
00:49:03.960and words fair winds to the sailor to the singer his art and a manly heart to many a hero
00:49:09.260So, Thor shall I honor, and this shall I ask.
00:49:32.240um so thor shall i honor and this shall i ask that his favor true mayest thou ever find then
00:49:42.340there is a line that is is uh illegible and it goes though little the brides of giants he loves
00:49:49.440so more than likely i'm not saying this is the case but there may be some referencing to
00:49:55.740the origin of Hindla and what she is. And to think that the gods do not allow
00:50:04.760troll witches or these chaotic elements into heaven, obviously it happens during Baldur's1.00
00:50:13.280funeral with Hyrokin. She rides a wolf and she has snakes as a bridle. And because Lord Thor0.99
00:50:23.460is so bereft with grief he can't push the um the boat into the water so um there these elements of
00:50:31.620chaos again are brought around and al-sir-go they said to the folks listening here that is an element
00:50:38.420about order kind of controlling confining or channeling the chaotic forces in the universe
00:50:47.780These are, this is a consistent thing. It doesn't necessarily always mean the eradication of, um, and that we see these forces are brought to, to heal under the dominion of the holy gods in their state of order.
00:51:05.640um so she says from the stall now one of thy wolves lead forth and along with my boar shall
00:51:20.540thou let him run for slow my boar goes on the road of the gods and i would not weary my worthy
00:51:28.600steed. So this is, again, kind of lending to the fact that Otar is the boar right now. And
00:51:38.560I mean, outside of that, my guesses are that, you know, it's kind of seen that he is not of
00:51:47.120the realms of heaven. He's not of the realm of the divine, but of the middle world. And that's
00:51:53.180what kind of binds him or makes him less than what may normally be. But I think it more or less is
00:52:01.360just a poetic nod to the fact that the boar is not what it seems. And again, her riding a wolf,
00:52:13.500you know, ride a wolf out. And this is a common trope of the troll witch or the Jotun witch,
00:52:22.680or the thirst maiden, especially in dealings with magic.
00:52:37.440Now, at this point, Hindla speaks out from the cave.
00:52:45.300And she states right out the gate that the Holy Freya is lying.0.67
00:52:52.680In 6, falsely thou asketh me, Freyja, to go, for so in the glance of thine eyes I see, on the way of the slain thy lover goes with thee, Ohtar the young, son of Einstein.
00:53:28.800This again is a consistent point in which
00:53:32.020The heavenly powers draw up chaotic elements
00:53:35.180And have them snubbed in the heavenly realm
00:53:38.000Kind of, again, pulling up a thread from the cosmos
00:53:42.320And having it, you know, cut and cauterized in heaven
00:53:46.580And she mentions, too, that he is the son of Instain
00:53:57.140There's not much to be said about that
00:54:02.860other than you know is he it's it's it's his father um
00:54:11.660you know it's it's uh they don't really elaborate and they won't really elaborate on many of the
00:54:16.860names to come um so you know uh let's see here on on number seven with freya freya speaks wild
00:54:28.460dreams me thinks are thine when thou sayest my lover is with me on the way of the slain
00:54:35.660there shrines the boar with bristles of gold hildesmini he who was made by dayen and napi
00:54:44.220the cunning dwarves so again this is a reference to the other story the creation
00:54:49.340of Hildeswini, the opposition of Gulenbarsti, or Yulenbarsti, the golden-bristled one that was
00:54:59.660given to her brother by the dwarves. Now let us down from our saddle's leap and talk of the race0.79
00:55:10.020of the heroes twain the men who were born of the gods above so at this point taking the road of the
00:55:21.140slain bivrost's bridge is kind of abandoned and instead okay let's well let's talk amongst each
00:55:30.100other and this is an interesting part is again of the men who are born from the gods above
00:55:36.660those who have the on who have the breath who have the shape from heim dollar's hands um
00:55:44.420so there's a clear nod here um if anyone is ever looking for any anyone who's ever been asked like
00:55:52.420why do you think that the gods you know um shaped the folk or why do you think that we are connected
00:55:59.380to the gods by by blood or by breath or or what have you this is a perfect example here it's
00:56:05.780it's mentioned we are you know born of the gods of above um in nine there's a a mentioning here
00:56:18.260it says uh a wager have made in the foreign metal otar the young and angantir we must guard for the
00:56:28.100hero young to have his father's wealth and the fruits of his race or the really the fruits of
00:56:34.740his of his people um it's just an interesting side note the word for foreign uh metal is is um
00:56:45.060uh velja um and it it are uh which in old norse uh is kind of like a conjugate to
00:57:01.140like welsh it means like an outsider if you will now in modern um icelandic means falcon so perhaps
00:57:09.620you know it could lend to the idea of one that has traveled far or traveled wide but um it's
00:57:16.260just an interesting note i think that's something that my poet placed in um that you know i would
00:57:23.460wager in minted coin and that's that's an interesting point because most of the wealth
00:57:29.860that was carried by our ancestors at the time was often carried on them via rings via uh you know
00:57:36.420bracelet arm uh you know necklace and so so forth it was easier to kind of chip out and weigh gold
00:57:47.060on scales rather than by minting um and minting had you know obviously its own problems with
00:57:55.940you know people shaving you know pieces off or um mixing it with other metals
00:58:02.660and it was also very hard to defend um if it was you know coined and held by other people
00:58:10.900so it was very easy to defend if you were wearing it on your body so that's kind of the reference
00:58:15.940there um in 10 this is uh the holy freya speaking and again it is very interesting because it's one
00:58:31.300of the times where a um a hark is mentioned um it says here for me a shrine of stones he made
00:58:43.460and now to glass the rock has grown oft with the blood of beasts was it read in the goddess
00:58:52.260ever did otar trust so this is the point in which she states that there is so much uh
00:59:05.940bloat being conducted on the hark that the blood has glistened the stone um
00:59:12.900Um, and that this is just more of a testament to his faith in her, his, his, uh, continuance
00:59:21.820of piety and, and of giving, um, it could also denote perhaps maybe fire, but I think
00:59:30.260the blood as a, as a reference to glass may be a better analogous, but they, they don't
00:59:37.420quite specify but again he's just heaping devotion upon the holy freya and now she is turning in kind
00:59:48.300um and again this also does show that it is you know understood by the people hearing this poem
00:59:55.980that men could hold troth with the ausinger so
01:00:07.420um so we move to um 11. and freya speaks
01:00:19.580uh tell me that tell me now the ancient names and the races of all
01:00:26.140that were born of old so we see here in the old norse the word actor is brought up again the
01:00:33.580the family but again it's translated as races the the lineage the line of his people um all the way
01:00:44.100back um who are of the skildungs who of the skill wings who of the oldlings who of the
01:00:59.600ill things and ill thing oftentimes is translated to engling or english which is the line of um
01:01:08.880the swedes who are the freeborn who are the highborn the noblest of men that in midgarth dwell
01:01:18.720so this part here is mentioning to be honest i think they may have more historical accuracy
01:01:26.800than translators give them. The only problem is, is I don't exactly know who, and I've, I've been
01:01:32.100looking to see if there's any connections, but, uh, as of right now, you know, they're these,
01:01:38.040these names, um, have more localized meaning just like in Beowulf when, um, you know, the, the,
01:01:46.840the Danes come into their peninsula and they, you know, they fight against the wolflings of that
01:01:54.900place more likely than not that is the name that the danes gave them perhaps because they
01:02:02.980um had wolfish sense to them or uh you know perhaps their kid was a was a wolf or their
01:02:10.740symbology um but that most likely was not their name at all um and it most likely was um you know
01:02:19.780one of the local tribes there could be even you know um but we don't know um
01:02:29.860so hint love without much uh turning of the thumbscrews if you will decides to lay that
01:02:38.260out and this is because this is the nature of the poem and what the poet is attempting to
01:02:42.980to do is to list these names um in in poetic form so she says thou art otar the son of instinct
01:02:57.060and instain the son of alf the old alf of ulf ulf of sci-fi and sci-fi's father was swan the red so
01:03:10.180we see here she mentions that um uh the that uh otar's grandfather is alf the old
01:03:24.420and he is born of ulf um but there is no real like last name given to him other than he is of
01:03:32.740saifari and saifari means seafaring so saifari's you know father so this this would be great great
01:03:41.140grandfather is svan in roda svan the red um so we clearly see the naming system um kind of goes from
01:03:53.300Son of. So like Otur would be Instinson. And then it shifts into the older naming system where there's title names. And in 13, she says, Thy mother? Bright. With bracelets fair.
01:04:14.800Again, the Dies moniker shows a connection to great things, but it could also be simply that she was just named this.
01:04:29.020But she is a Givya, and it's specifically mentioned that she is a Givya.
01:04:36.660Froði, her father, and Friund, even though it says Friat in the translation, Friund, her mother, her race of the mightiest men must see.
01:04:50.920So it's just interesting if Froði, from her line, there is mention that the king Froði is descendant of or is the physical manifestation of the holy frayed.
01:05:44.040the noblest of all was Ali. Before him, Halfdan, foremost of the Skoldungs. So Halfdan, of course,1.00
01:05:56.060I think most people are probably familiar with him. Famed were the battles the hero fought.
01:06:01.940To the corners of heaven, his deeds were carried. And again, here's another mention of heaven.
01:06:07.980You know, with no Christian context, and I think our verbiage, as folk need to embrace that, I speak about that often, that the gods are of heaven, because it is a word or vernacular.
01:06:26.940And in 15, he is strengthened by Aemond, the strongest of men.
01:06:36.660Sigtrig, he slew with the ice-cold sword.
01:06:42.360His bride was Almve, the best of women.
01:11:11.760the the lineage um of these ancient kings going even further back and there may be again these
01:11:21.120um messagings of um uh that they carry similar names to again throw the as mentioned and and
01:11:31.580next you'll see the name nana but um uh nana is is actually debated because it might be spelled
01:11:39.420mana with an m it's just that the um the writing of the of the poem is not very good so uh they
01:11:48.440end up kind of going for an immediate feminized name versus um mana because mana is seen as
01:11:56.700masculine so um they don't quite know but in 20 they say next was nana daughter of nokvi
01:12:03.500thy father's kinsman her son became old is the line and longer still and all are thy kinsmen0.99
01:12:11.680otar the fool so here we we see again the begrudgingness of her by calling him a fool0.98
01:12:22.360um but she is still relenting the information and why is she doing that why is this important0.99
01:12:29.920um generally you'll hear people say um you know that it was super important for any hero or any
01:12:37.960person of great um renown to to know their their line and the farther back they knew the more the
01:12:44.740more might they would have i'm not saying that isn't true uh but i am saying that there's very
01:12:50.740little outside of it that states um or anywhere else that this is like an absolute demand um
01:12:58.500More likely, this is the poem's way of establishing, you know, descendancy, excuse me, through historical figures, to speak their names, to hold them through to Otar, who is clearly a semi-divine now, but perhaps was mortal.
01:13:25.740um you know but i think that somewhere along the way uh in also true in the in the early 80s and
01:13:32.88090s it was said you know hey if you know your ancestral lines if you know their names you'll
01:13:39.560you'll gain much power and that's the way our ancestors viewed it again i don't for a sec so
01:13:45.680i want to just make this note because i think it's really important
01:13:49.760knowing your ancestors first knowing them in a bigger sense is extremely important
01:14:02.900if you are able or to what degree you're able knowing their names is important too
01:14:10.280more so than just knowing it something svan and i have talked about this but speaking something
01:14:18.920is a magical act it takes it from an intention or a plan or a passing thought and it manifests it
01:14:29.160in reality in the you know most entry-level mail room sense is you are putting it out there
01:14:40.120so at some hold or in a formal way at some when you hail one of your ancestors
01:14:46.520say their name say it out loud i remember i remember a winter nights a number of years
01:14:53.160ago and they run together now but one of the first ones that i celebrated was spawn
01:14:59.320he mentioned one of his grandparents and the ones that eat the rotten shark
01:15:06.040and so uh the the name was difficult to get and he said it quickly and in passing and people kind
01:15:11.960of mumbled i'm like whoa pause flag on the play right say it slowly because i want to repeat it
01:15:18.360out loud to honor them and i think it's really important we make a uh a point of doing that
01:15:25.880do that formally ensemble but just in your life in your house and your family when you're telling
01:15:32.760stories to your friends and people you care about speak the names of your ancestors don't just say
01:15:37.880my mom or my dad say their name out loud there's a something special to that so do that
01:15:47.080and while have your attention rage of red we appreciate you having you i know we got a lot
01:15:53.000of people in the audience sometimes just kind of sit and listen and absorb and don't necessarily
01:15:57.080speak up but they're there and they're listening and we really appreciate you guys that adds a lot
01:16:01.480to the program thank you so much for being here
01:16:03.400yeah I just now saw the um so word of the wise kittens have very sharp little kitten claws
01:16:16.580very sharp little kitten teeth and they don't really know what they're doing with them so
01:16:21.940that's the thing I I think it's uh kind of worth noting too for people that might be
01:16:45.080questions towards the lore first and then we catch
01:16:49.260all the other questions that might be related just to religion
01:16:53.200in general after so yeah something just comes
01:16:57.260up and sometimes if we know it's time sensitive we'll insert it
01:17:00.640as you've probably already seen sometimes swan and i can take liberties on going off on rabbit trails
01:17:08.740so we try to try to get back to the story in the text but i've found especially doing this
01:17:18.780with swan has been so beneficial to me personally and i appreciate if it's beneficial to you guys
01:17:24.960as well but to take us down different trails of thought and you know one thing leads to another
01:17:32.400and we you know we kind of flesh out some concepts that are really important a lot of people come to
01:17:38.400house are true and you know they want they're very used to the gospels or like a specific sermon or
01:17:50.160a tome on a particular thing in a very linear literary context and ethnic religion
01:17:59.760traditionally is not like that that's kind of a rarity amongst religion is to have it presented
01:18:06.000that way it's word of mouth and it's listening to elders and it's absorbing things culturally
01:18:11.840and in a more holistic way so when people come in they want to know you know all of this religious
01:18:19.600instruction one of the best ways to do it that we've been able to access is to organically
01:18:27.280go through these things and hopefully that's useful to everybody and it's why sometimes we
01:18:32.400go off on rabbit trails but i i think they're very beneficial and certainly
01:18:37.920the more you do this and longer you are involved the you know you when you first come home to
01:18:45.040to Alistair, it seems like there is a mountain of lore to work your way through. And that's
01:18:50.660wonderful. And it's awesome. Decades in, every now and again, we'll discover something that we
01:18:57.400hadn't been aware of before some fragment. But a lot of this is stuff that you've been over maybe,
01:19:03.540maybe several times in your own mind or to yourself privately, going through it with
01:19:09.900different people at different seasons of your life it you see it from different angles and
01:19:17.980through different lenses and it really adds a dimensionality to our faith that you've kind of
01:19:24.540got to be in for a while to fully fully appreciate and uh yeah so it's special to go over it again
01:19:33.340with spawn and with you guys and uh to do this together so i'm glad we get this opportunity
01:19:39.900and with that let's get back to it yeah i was gonna say too over here in the comment section
01:19:45.260i'm noticing that people are talking about freya's cats and i would love to talk about that
01:19:50.140after the poem because they may not have been cats they may have been wolverines
01:19:56.620just throwing that out there is like a wait what kind of thing but um there's stuff with a lot of
01:20:01.660these animals when you trace it back i've often thought about you know what kind of goats were
01:20:09.020thor's goats you know in the in the imagery or in the mind's eye of our ancestors well and i um i
01:20:17.900i do believe that they're referring to cats um but there is a possibility looking into it based
01:20:24.780on the heighty that they use or the or the canning that they use um but yeah even with uh um lady
01:20:31.260scabby and uh when in the mural that i painted i painted her with ibixes instead generally or
01:20:37.580people were like why didn't you paint wolves and i i thought of um wolves as being um very you know
01:20:44.700connected to the source of where they live versus a perhaps a peaceful animal that helps one travel
01:20:51.500um to a foreign place or a place far away so that's why i ended up doing it but um yeah animal
01:20:57.900the animal imagery um is very very interesting and i would love to touch on that a little bit
01:21:03.340after the poem but see it's easy once you do that to start going down these rabbit holes yeah
01:21:09.180are they links were they bobcats were they saber-toothed tigers it depends how far you
01:21:14.300want to take it back in the folk memory i've often thought you know of course goats it's cool to
01:21:19.900imagine them as um as like mountain goats coming from alaska mountain goats are super cool looking
01:21:28.860and awesome but then the more i looked into it genetically they're very dissimilar they're
01:21:34.460slightly dissimilar to modern goats but you know what is very similar to modern goats in a lot of
01:21:40.940ways is muskox so then i had the odd thought of thor's chariot being pulled by musk oxen
01:21:49.980they're from the goat family surprisingly you shave all that hair off they're just big goats0.92
01:21:54.860i kind of want to i'm like i'm gonna there's rabbit holes kind of fascinating and another
01:22:02.900point of that too is the you know if people wonder like how could a wolverine be possible
01:22:08.960of the heighty towards the cat that that's mentioned for um the holy freya is the same
01:22:15.540reason why uh you know the the old name for skunks a pole cat um cat was kind of just
01:22:22.540tagged on to any creature that was of that similar ilk, whether they were a mustelid or,
01:22:29.720you know, or a feline didn't quite, you know, matter. It was labeled on. So that throws in
01:22:36.400a whole nother element. Anybody out there listening, don't get me confused. I don't
01:22:40.180really think that, you know, our Viking age ancestors conceptualized
01:22:45.040um Thor's goats as musk oxen it's just funny in my head to try to trace back you know wow what did
01:22:55.700they look like because it's and I promise after this we'll get back to the text but
01:23:00.860when you look at accompanying illustrations in the Icelandic um manuscripts of this you see our
01:23:12.700gods displayed in a renaissance they have like foul shones and like you know puffy plumed like
01:23:20.980pants in the flat like because that's a later stage that they were written down in and they
01:23:27.500were codified in we have a tendency to idealize them in the terms in which we're familiar with
01:23:33.560so you know when this lore comes to us it's with a very viking coat of paint because that's where
01:23:40.400this material comes from but the stories are as old as our race and so it makes me wonder like
01:23:46.660ah but what did they look like in the you know if they were drawn out in the migration period
01:23:51.080or if they were drawn out in like you know the early Aryan migrations or post ice age
01:24:00.140development of our folk at that most early stage so it's always kind of funny to imagine the
01:24:05.580neolithic version of our lore if you had to reimagine it that way it's just a middle exercise
01:24:11.100that i find entertaining so don't take any more than it than that it's just kind of fun to think
01:24:16.820about for the folks at home al saragotty has mentioned this numerous times the vehicles of
01:24:22.680the gods being animals and the purpose of that in the idea that the mastery over wilds or um you
01:24:31.440just uh powerful forces so you know we're not we're not saying that if we walked up the rainbow
01:24:38.960and entered into osgar there it's not like we're gonna come up upon some actual goats and feed them
01:24:45.840some you know hay and you know pet the little goat antlers or the goat horns it's not but it draws a
01:24:54.080picture for us that's fascinating and thinking about how our ancestors conceived these pictures
01:25:01.380that in a want to say in a literal way but not quite but in a very tangible way fleshed out
01:25:12.760the gods to them into something graspable and again not literally but it brought it a step
01:25:20.280closer to being able to conceptualize and this goes into a question that we had in chat we'll
01:25:26.920talk about later but the idea of taking something intangible and artistically displaying what
01:25:39.640the magnificence of a god is in a form in a shape and a picture that speaks to the folk
01:25:48.600It helps them better understand that God is a, it's a powerful act and it's a powerful part of worship in and of itself.
01:25:58.160And I think we're kind of at a renaissance in that with this gentleman right here who does our murals with projecting into the world his conception of these gods, how they appear,
01:26:50.860yes so as we go here i think the biggest thing to look over is just uh the the the essence of the
01:27:02.540names there are some names that are mentioned that are also mentioned uh laterally in saxo
01:27:07.740grammaticus's um telling of the danes and so the big focus here is that these are the lineages of
01:27:14.700otar from um the kings of the danes and the and and the line or the the the matriarchal side is
01:27:23.420from from the swedes and um but it just it's chock full of very interesting um historical
01:27:31.500and semi-mythical you know senses but there's also some things in here that will let us know
01:27:37.340about the overall and why the the ausentia folk assembly sees post uh post-mortem ascendancy
01:27:45.180as a a purposeful and um tenant of our faith that perhaps was overlooked by
01:27:52.460um you know the founders of our faith but or maybe not emphasized at least but have grown
01:27:58.060as we've studied and as our gothar have kind of deliberated over things these points get brought up0.96
01:28:04.220So of Isulf and Osulf, the sons of Olmoth, whose wife is Skörhilt, the daughter of Skekil, count them among the heroes mighty, all of thy kinsmen, Ohtar the fool, thou fool, excuse me.0.80
01:28:29.00022 Gunnar the bulwark, or bulwark, excuse me. It is not bulwark because bulwark is another meaning. Balkar is what it's referred to there, but the wall or the stopping wall, Gunnar the stopping wall, and Grim the hardy, Thorir the iron shield, and Ulf the gaper.
01:28:51.700um broad and horvir both did i know in the household they were of hrolf the old
01:29:01.380hair barth your barth rani angantir buoy and brahmi bari and ravenir tint and tierfing again
01:29:16.620that that's a name that might be uh pinging off for some people tierving um tierving sword
01:29:22.800um the hatings twain and all are thy kinsmen otar the fool eastward in balm were born of old the
01:29:32.760songs of arngrim i love arngrim that's such a cool name it means the grim eagle um and a fira
01:29:42.500with berserk tumult and baleful deed like fire over the land and sea they fared and all thy
01:29:50.620kinsmen otar thou fool i love that with berserker tomat with uh being the short version of like0.94
01:29:57.160tumultuous just creating havoc uh over the land and the sea um the sons of jorman wreck now this0.93
01:30:09.140that's interesting there is because jorman wreck is a nordic version of the gothic king athanaric
01:30:16.660so now we know this is going all the way back into the migration periods around um
01:30:25.460uh you know the the late roman empire um
01:30:31.780and this is an interesting part here to the gods in death were as offerings given
01:30:36.340so they were were chosen of of the they were chosen of the gods after their death or they
01:30:46.780were chosen of the gods in their death that they were elevated he he was the kinsman of sigarth
01:30:52.840hear well what i say the foe of hosts and fafnir slayer so you are she's saying you are related
01:31:00.760to the great kings of the goths and he was related to sigurd the the dragon slayer
01:31:09.680and son of sigmund so i mean it gets it gets pretty epic um and in referencing you know even
01:31:20.060to the volsung saga um oh yeah and here in 26 from the volsungs so from the volsung seed was
01:31:29.140hero sprung and so many i think poets and kings not only did they need to to have connection
01:31:35.700back to lord odin by by uh legacy but also to the volsungs or or to the um to the heroes uh sigmund
01:31:47.300or sigurd um so from this the volsung seed was the hero sprung and hjordis was born and hrothung's0.93
01:31:58.500race and alemi from the all things came and all are thy kinsmen otar the fool
01:32:06.580gungnir and holnir the heirs of gyuki and gudrun as well who who their sister was but gothorn
01:32:16.420was not of gyuki's race although the brother of both he was and all are thy kinsmen otar the
01:32:23.860full so now you start to see here um the referencing again back to the volsunga sagas but that
01:32:30.900there is um adoption or fostering that connects certain folks but they are all still the kinsmen
01:32:39.300of otar um of vedna's son was hawkey the best and jordavar the father of uh vedna
01:32:51.060and then the line is um you know not uh legible um so they kind of punctuate with with periods
01:33:01.560there and then it moves to stanza 29 herald battletooth of out was born crook the ring
01:33:10.960giver her husband was out the deep-minded oh sorry crook the ring giver her husband was
01:33:18.280so she's continually just kind of connecting all of these families from all over and it really
01:33:34.180again emphasizes the pan-germanicism or the the pan-arianism of the germanic or teutonic lines
01:33:40.480and how they were all kind of seen as a networking branch of each other and how they were you know
01:33:46.020all the way back from the guttons to to the angles and the saxons all the way north to
01:33:51.620norway and the in the norse um to the germans in the center the the connectivity there was not
01:33:59.920something um that was seen as uh you know they worship different gods and i've seen that where
01:34:06.980people propose that the anglo-saxons worship different gods from from the norse or the norse
01:34:12.000from the goths no 100 percent they are far more interconnected than than people care to you know
01:34:19.040give inkling to um so here's an interesting part as well so freya speaks to my board now bring the
01:34:27.600memory beer so that all thy words that well thou has spoken the third mourn hence he may hold in
01:34:35.440his mind when their race when their races otar and angatyr tell so the idea of bringing forth
01:34:47.360the feminine is bringing forth a horn now hindla is not seen so much like gunloth
01:34:54.720uh the battle song in the mountain of sotun lord odin drinks um from that horn and takes up um
01:35:04.800kvasir's blood in the in the three cauldrons but again this referencing to gaining hidden knowledge
01:35:12.240and having a need bearer give it give to the hero so that the knowledge attained can be um infused
01:35:23.360into his being is is clearly here um so that she can so that he can give that uh
01:35:34.160um, he can give this line of, of understanding, uh, without any pause or without any doubt,
01:35:41.120um, that, you know, and it's, it's just, I find this very interesting, especially considering
01:35:47.300that Hindla is definitely seen as more of an antagonistic character, but again, the,
01:35:54.380the bringing forth of a horn, um, in order to infuse that which is, is taking place, which is
01:36:01.420why we um at our um hoffs and uh at our national events you will clearly see a givia or a horn
01:36:10.940bearer being present during our sambals or or during our uh our bloats um because of this uh
01:36:18.980infusement of the of the feminine of the horn um being given over willfully to the to the masculine
01:36:26.240in order to be infused, to be blessed and bestowed with that power.
01:36:42.200Hence shalt thou fare, for fain would I sleep.
01:36:46.400From here thou gettest few favors good, my noble one, out in the night thou leapest,
01:36:52.240as he the run goes the goats among so this one is interesting she's saying go leave um from here
01:37:07.160but in essence she's she's saying that there's going to be a great um reward nonetheless for
01:37:15.760knowing this because she mentions hithron hithron is the goat that is mentioned in valhall that um
01:37:24.880from its teats come the the the mead that feeds the einherjar so in essence your your fate is to
01:37:35.840sit amongst the chosen ones um and again a lot of people might well you know isn't the holy freya
01:37:43.920uh somehow you know she she has folk long why would she not take otter to folk long if this
01:37:49.440is uh mentioned that um you know his his uh final you know resting place or is going to be in the
01:37:57.200anger and i i think that there's a lack of understanding that these um these heavenly
01:38:03.680abodes are are shared uh you know uh thor is mentioned as as traversing into into valhall
01:38:12.320um as any of the gods would or it would be seen as such the other thing is and i brought that up
01:38:19.280during um the story is that she was placing a bet to lord odin that she felt he would not take
01:38:26.800and he took it anyways which again shows the caveat in the poem of desperation to cause war
01:38:35.040so it and it also kind of lends itself that she may do it at any time she may step in
01:38:41.600and she thinks that lord other would never give that to her and he does it doesn't always mean
01:38:48.000simply that um you know she she pulls the first pick uh of the of the crop of the slain simply
01:38:55.760because that's what she does now it's it's when she desires to um so hindla uh says um
01:39:05.840to oath didst thou run who loved thee ever and many under thy thy apron have crawled
01:39:15.860my noble one out in the night thou leapest as he the rune goes the goats among
01:39:21.800so now she throws an insult to the holy freight freya she says um you know many a hero have
01:39:33.280written under your apron and this of course is referencing to um her modesty um
01:39:42.240and that you know uh into the night you know you have you have gone and and and kind of
01:39:47.760traipsed amongst the einherjar as well um and so this is clearly you know an insult with um
01:39:55.360um that turns the the conversation sour uh um and it also references to the fact i know that a lot
01:40:04.240of people uh like to make the connection that older is um lord odin but more than likely
01:40:14.080oath is very much like otter i know that some people even try to attempt that other is otter
01:40:20.720But the ascendancy of heroes, the ascendancy of mortal men who their souls have been refined into such a pure form that they are brought up amongst the gods and are no longer just men, it is entirely likely that Odr is of the same ilk, but then left.
01:40:50.720so freya speaks um around the giantess flame shall i shall i raise so that forth unburned
01:41:01.120thou mates thou mayest not fair hindla speaks back flames i see burning the earth is on fire
01:41:09.360and each for his life the price must lose bring then to otar the draught of beer of venom full
01:41:17.040for an evil fate so she says to hindla i will surround you with these flames and then she
01:41:28.320speaks in return i see flames but they are upon earth and amongst the men and the the price and0.94
01:41:36.560the cost of these deeds will bear forth fruit either way so i'll i'll bring him this draught
01:41:44.560of beer but it is it is venom full of evil fate it is going to draw an end to lines it's going to
01:41:53.520create havoc it's going to create war giving him this knowledge is not going to make things better
01:41:59.600it's going to make things you know worse um and then freya speaks thine evil words shall work no
01:42:08.640ill thou giant is bitter thy baleful threats a drinkful fair shall otter find if if of all the
01:42:16.320gods the favor i get so this is kind of where hexanoct this dichotomy is where hexanoct truly
01:42:26.960or or nor near not the the holy tide takes place the the the witch of of the folk the one who
01:42:35.920uses magic uses power to to protect the men to protect the flock of of the people versus the
01:42:44.560chaotic being the feminine um kind of uh abomination the the kind of uh more or less like
01:42:53.520a false feminine or a feminine abomination one that attempts to make the feminine misaligned or0.79
01:43:01.120you know twisting against what is the good feminine um is taking place here so in hexanact0.85
01:43:08.240you'll see that there will be uh women burning bundles of herbs in the fire and that they will0.99
01:43:15.280blow that smoke over the folk as they walk through it and that's to protect them from the the the0.65
01:43:22.480chaotic forces of the the thirst maidens if you will the wolf riders um the the nightmares
01:43:31.120and things of that nature so this is kind of where that holy tide gets this you can see the
01:43:38.080dichotomy why it's kind of presented that way and um you know again the the flames are burning if
01:43:45.220you will but one is for protection and the other it you know is she's just banking on the0.79
01:43:51.280inevitability that this is going to bring so much turmoil that that otar is cursed despite
01:43:57.220um and then it ends and it ends rather abruptly um it does say here um that the manuscript
01:44:05.320repeats once again lines three and four from um from the stanza as the two lines uh but it seems
01:44:13.080that the two lines have been to the effect that Freya will burn the giant is alive and it says
01:44:18.520if swiftly thou does not seek and hither bring the memory beer she will burn the witch um
01:44:24.700And so just to kind of leave off on, let me see, on that, it is really worth remembering that the feminine as a dangerous force was not something that the Christians introduced to our ancestors, but that the masculine had a kind of evil sense, and so did the feminine.
01:44:51.040And I think in a lot of ways, it was seen as not just only a warning to the living, but an understanding that in all things, our ancestors saw gender in the divine gender in the forces of nature, and that evil too was gendered.
01:45:10.200And even more, the abstract, the idea that if it could move between, it was even further than the evil of the feminine and the masculine.
01:45:19.320It was more an aberration, which, again, lends towards the Kinslayer, Laufey's son.
01:45:28.700But in this case, you know, the idea of the feminine, the troll witch, the night hag, the, you know, sometimes people call them the sleep paralysis demon.
01:45:43.140um the the very awareness of this long before christianity um was that you know this mockery
01:45:53.460of femininity the the anti-mother um which survives in so many of our our fairy tales
01:46:01.060and so many of the of the tales of folklore of the witch that's trying to in essence corrupt
01:46:07.220the innocence and the femininity of women or attacking and trying to drain the vitality of
01:46:15.500men. This was a common thing. It was not something that was just kind of introduced by the Middle0.71
01:46:21.320Eastern religion. I think that they used that to compound and drive it home. But it was clearly1.00
01:46:31.540there already that there is the feminine that nurtures nurtures very rarely were women of the
01:46:37.540sagas you know spoken of illy or being ugly or or um being you know anything um less than mothers
01:46:46.840when they were elderly um they were seen as wise or you know they they knew they knew much and
01:46:52.960remembered much of children, or they were, you know, mothers of great folk, there was very rarely0.52
01:47:01.980the essence of like a hag, but the hag itself was seen as kind of a perversion of the true feminine
01:47:09.640form, and was always, you know, harrying against Lord Thor, and that he was fighting these
01:47:20.020these feminine chaotic forces, or that Lord Odin had, you know, hidden himself and walked amongst0.91
01:47:27.520them to learn their magics in order to understand how they cause so much havoc and destruction.0.83
01:47:33.560And this is, again, polarized here. And so ultimately, at the end of the poem,
01:47:40.760it's an understanding that the Holy Freya understands and knows of these. She was most
01:47:46.400likely calling Hindla her sister and her friend under false pretenses, not that she is connected,
01:47:54.840but that she does know and is connected to the overall sense of this, you know, dynamic feminism0.97
01:48:02.060moving in and out, um, ebbing and flowing positive and negative, et cetera. Um, but it's, it's, I think0.97
01:48:11.300it's a big topic that people don't really realize how deep it goes until they start looking at
01:48:16.660things like like grilla amongst the icelanders or um you you see it uh with uh like local
01:48:25.080legends of of the feminine or in the grimm's fairy tales with these kind of um you know yes
01:48:32.720they could be linked to being like spinsters and what have you but no they're clearly um the
01:48:38.720anti-mother they they they give the sweets um to draw in the children and and and you know but
01:48:45.680they would never have children of their own or what have you and this of course morphed over time1.00
01:48:50.880and then with christianity it came into you know these women were you know stealing babies but that
01:48:56.320wasn't something that christianity introduced i think it just exacerbated the the concept of it
01:49:30.960excellent that was the Hindlil Yodh appreciate that appreciate the reading of that swan and all
01:49:42.720the extra detail I think that helps a lot of our people draw into it a little bit better
01:49:51.300going back to our questions from earlier this evening the wolf throne has a couple of them
01:50:00.960Considering Ausatru's lore is somewhat fragmented, what are some ways we can, quote, fill in the gaps without making stuff up when something in our lore is unclear?
01:50:15.580And then, so I think it's paired with the second part of the question.
01:50:21.060Can we write new lore if new truths are revealed to a qualified Goethe?
01:50:55.540But I mean, a perfect example of this, and I guess the short answer is, no, I don't think that it's a problem for us to observe and to press forward in perhaps a greater understanding of things, even though it's not listed in the lore.
01:51:13.680A perfect example of this is my emphasis on the fact that when we see in the lore that the great spirits of the divine powers do not die, but morph during death.
01:51:29.800And I often speak of the wind-blown eagle and the hawk upon its beak as being the ascendant souls of Bor and Bestla, or that Nid-Ogur is the soul of Ymir that flows down into the lower realm and is attempting to rip the root out.
01:51:53.400Is it stated in lore? No. But we can see again that the understanding of movements and observing the stories, and there comes this inclination of, you know, is this where the powers that are so great move?
01:52:17.980is the heart of Ad Umla Ratatosk, and now we have this tripartite anew that maintains the vertical,
01:52:27.680the axis mundi of the universe, if you will. I mean, sure, somebody could say that's not in the
01:52:33.900lore, but the consideration, I think, is worth looking into, and as we progress, we as our folk
01:52:43.620should be able to define that our motion forward is within our own hands, but it's with great care
01:52:52.420that we do this, that with great piety, we do this with great sense of, we're not just
01:52:59.360making proclamations. We're not attempting to fit the gods into boxes. We're not attempting
01:53:06.180to override things. We're coming at this. And I think it's very important, the difference
01:53:11.920between scholarly attempts where certain scholars will say, oh, well, you know, I, you know, it's
01:53:17.980suggested by scholars such and such that perhaps this God is actually this God. That is dangerous.
01:53:26.360Instead, what it is, is that we look at comparison and we attempt to link things, but we never quite,
01:53:36.460um you know simply like make these proclamations willy-nilly if you will um so i do think it has
01:53:44.640a place where we can we can um bring this about and i think gothar are the ones to do it gothar
01:53:52.020are the ones that have these relationships and i think that the folk and especially those who
01:53:56.520have promised to become gothar are fully capable of bringing in this greater understanding um but
01:54:04.520it's it's what the gothar are is that they're a condensed and formulated um minds and souls
01:54:12.700working together and i think that the al-sir-gothi is led um to them for certain reasons um and so in
01:54:21.140doing so we're kind of it's it's like a a rippling effect um and certainly you know if somebody has
01:54:28.600a revelation i think it's and they bring it up or they speak about it i know during winter nights
01:54:33.160A couple of folks were talking to me about some of the revelations that they've had with the gods.
01:54:38.980And, you know, it's not like thrown down or cast aside.
01:54:44.020It's, you know, it is greatly considered.
01:54:46.440It's, you know, there's room for organic growth, I think is what I'm attempting to say.
01:54:54.520And I think that most everybody here knows that that's how the Auschwitz Folk Assembly does work in that organic growth matter.
01:55:00.500But we don't attempt to do it out of convenience.0.95
01:55:05.660I think that's the one thing that we try to avoid.
01:55:11.080Yeah, so I think it's a really important question.
01:55:15.040And I think it's always a very uncomfortable question.
01:55:21.740So anybody who's a longtime listener on here sees Fawn kind of tentatively approach some things.
01:55:30.300and like well you know some people think and i've always kind of thought and i frequently
01:55:35.660i'm like hey now stop no this is the thing this is what you know speak with authority spawn you
01:55:42.780can say that but i think we all look for permission to because and i think that's an important
01:55:51.820we deal with a strange x factor when things are lost to the sands of time
01:56:02.920we oo and aah over them and we don't really ponder how they work we just
01:56:11.380waller in their antiquity so if lore comes to us and it's really old
01:56:19.480it becomes automatically authentic to us and we don't spend a lot of time critically thinking of
01:56:31.780how it developed or who you know where did it come from how did it transmit from the divine
01:56:39.440realm to the mortal realm and I don't say this to cheapen any of the lore that's come to us
01:56:46.720but i say that to grant us a little bit of grace in the present
01:56:52.980in our mind the old days were this glorious golden age where everyone spoke eloquently
01:57:04.860and was you know having daily meetings with the icier and you know had wings on their helmets
01:57:11.920and glittering golden armor and we have this idealized view of the past and perhaps someday
01:57:21.080folks will look at this time and you know imagine us all in a more perfect and more
01:57:28.580you know fantastical sense and that'd be cool but i don't think that the truth or the
01:57:37.580humanity of it ought be lost our ancestors were men and women like ourselves
01:57:48.100that had had problems that had weaknesses in their lives that had deficiencies that had
01:57:57.700struggles that had things and they worked through them and they overcame they weren't inborn with
01:58:03.720this perfect pipeline to divinity no they they toiled to understand the world around them to
01:58:10.200understand their gods and to build relationships through through bloat and through ritual through
01:58:17.080through study and through worship over the period of their lives and what we have is what has come
01:58:23.720down to us of their collective knowledge and we have that sometimes expressed in you know
01:58:30.280obscure poetry we have pieces of that expressed by ancient historians or
01:58:38.840you know ancient uh poets writing his you know heroic lays
01:58:46.040for us to attempt to ape that by creating viking age
02:00:12.600honestly, I'm not even really sure which is worse to do so maliciously or to do so
02:00:19.680haphazardly because you just don't care and it's convenient.
02:00:24.420I don't know which is worse. If you are venturing into
02:00:28.660expressing a new truth or a connection of truths,
02:00:39.740to not do that with humility and the utmost piety and respect is
02:00:47.840anathema to everything that we're about and i think you can tell when people are talking
02:00:54.920um it's always hard because somebody comes and tell you like hey guess what the gods told me this
02:01:03.620what's the ask yourself this is something the answer is probably different all of us
02:01:12.640what would make you believe someone if they told you they had a divine revelation
02:01:22.640um and i think that's often a challenge when people claim to have that
02:01:27.000Now, of course, sitting where I sit, I would tell you that the Astru Folk Assembly has cultivated the ability to perceive that and to judge that to the best of our ability through decades of the gift cycle with our gods.
02:01:48.140decades of sincere study meditation prayer and building relationships with the gods
02:01:57.940um but just on a on a real level man to man i always have a hard time you know i wasn't
02:02:09.280i wasn't born as the ulcerative i was born as a guy who found this at like 20 years old
02:02:15.840and you know was looking for who to believe and who to trust and what things to put stock in and
02:02:22.340what things not to and when people express things super casually and treat their encounters or their
02:02:33.000alleged encounters with the divine flippantly and
02:02:39.680i've literally heard people say like that they're working with the gods while they're like playing
02:02:49.280video games and eating cheese puffs and whatever like my big homie thor while it helps me play0.93
02:02:56.900call of duty and it's just silly and more than silly when you really digest it it's just blasphemous
02:03:06.160you can tell in people's tone and figuring out who to take seriously and who not to0.99
02:03:16.800is an art and I think it's a duty of Aryan men and women to make the decision of
02:03:29.800who to trust with that and who not to and over time the learned opinions and expressions of0.87
02:03:39.240gothar ring true or don't and if they ring true enough for long enough they become elements of
02:03:48.960And I think that 54, almost 55 years into the modern expression of our faith, it's hard to count that as lore.
02:04:05.360And I don't think in our ancestors' time, within somebody's lifetime, stuff became lore.
02:04:11.720But I think as generations go by, things become more and become accepted into the corpus of what we know as religious truth moving forward.
02:04:24.320So, I mean, Svon and I have a lot of ideas, but when we tell you something's true, we genuinely mean to the best of our understanding, we believe with our whole heart that it is true.
02:16:06.580a former afa member named marco and i don't know where marco is i hope he is doing well wherever
02:16:14.100he is um but yeah it was a member in massachusetts that gave this to me it's been a minute now um
02:16:28.180um winter nights 2017 sounds right winter nights 2017 maybe um but yeah it's a really cool stein
02:16:44.980it's a really unique stein and uh i don't use it nearly enough but because we were doing a
02:16:51.460bird mug theme this evening i felt the need to uh have have mandy run grab that for me
02:17:00.340oh and because it's a later question coming up uh i am drinking a variety of
02:17:08.660firestone ipas i like to get the variety packs of beers at costco because it entertains me to
02:17:17.300do so so that's what i end up doing and trying stuff out the different firestone ipas kind of
02:17:26.020all taste the same but i think they're a solid solid beer and i appreciate them so that's what
02:17:32.500i got on that one i like i like the dichotomy of of these the symbology of the eagle and the owl
02:17:40.340i know like nature wise they actually are they're they're aggressive towards each other
02:17:46.580um owl uh owls will raid eagle nests and eagles will raid owl's nests um but i i think too you
02:17:55.220know the idea of like lords of the day and lords of the night um i just thought that was really
02:18:02.100cool that you know it wasn't planned i just grabbed this out of the cupboard but but as
02:18:07.780kind of a point the eagle will be the kinfilia of uh tiershoff and also i had a really cool almost
02:18:22.980man the times that i've seen owls in my life have been few and far between but yesterday night
02:18:29.060on the way home from a some kind of pre-halloween trunk or treat deal with aubrey
02:18:38.040we were driving home and it was dark and this owl came down right in front of the car we're
02:18:44.420going to slow through the neighborhood right uh neighborhood i live on is kind of in the
02:18:48.100outskirts of town and so it's still you know we get coyotes walking up and down the street late
02:18:54.300at night and some wildness going on and this owl because you can see owls have this
02:19:02.220I don't know how to describe it if you've seen it you probably know what I'm talking about this
02:19:09.280strange almost hover when they go to land because their wings billow so much and are able to catch
02:19:15.280so much air so this flash of feathers and stuff moved and I'm like oh wow and then I looked it's
02:19:22.340owl and it sat on the side of the road for a second and turned its little owl head and did
02:19:27.220owl stuff and it it was crazy it was the most you know outside of the zoo it was the most
02:19:35.060up close and personal interaction with an owl i've ever had in my life and it stayed there for a
02:19:39.700second and then you know looked back because mandy wanted to see it and she missed it and
02:19:45.540aubrey was excited wanted to see it and it you know went about its business but yeah i don't
02:19:50.340did you either here or there but it was really cool did you see what kind of owl it was
02:19:56.340i don't speak owl um my understanding of the the different races of owl is not where it should be
02:20:09.300it was not a horned owl if you showed me different
02:20:15.060breeds of owl i might could pick it out of an owl lineup
02:20:18.740well uh one other question did it have yellow or black eyes
02:20:24.580i'm yellow eyes oh okay yeah short-eared owl did you just make that noise to random
02:20:30.660exclamation or was that an owl interpretation no no i was gonna i was just saying like uh
02:20:38.180i mean most likely especially in that area it could have also been um uh a hawk owl um
02:20:46.820if it was near twilight they have no plumage uh horns on their head um uh oh so next next
02:20:53.300get me the lineup here uh oh here we go i know it's not booba virginianus because you said
02:21:00.900um no in the bottom to the bottom left left from the furthest one to the bottom what's
02:21:07.060that a great snowy it wasn't that but it looked kind of similar to that guy um
02:21:16.820it was obviously we have we have a lineup boobo virginianus or the great horned owl or the flying
02:21:23.780tiger owl is very common throughout the United States um maybe he could fold his horns back I
02:21:30.980don't know but he didn't he didn't have any horns um that guy looks like a that's a burrowing owl
02:21:40.760that looks like a baby version maybe yep that i saw um no mine was a mine was a grown full-size
02:21:49.400you know swole owl more likely a hawk owl they're very uh they they and they do go out a lot they
02:21:57.880kind of come out was eating good yeah yeah a rounder a rounder head appearance so this is
02:22:07.720cool i don't know that that guy sort of looks yeah that guy looks close to it that nick was just
02:22:13.000hovering over but in all honesty i don't know if our audience really cares for my my journey down
02:22:19.880what owl did i see next time i get him i will ask him his name and his ancestry um well an
02:22:27.320interesting thing too i've always kind of associated buzzards with hell and i've always
02:22:32.600kind of associated owls to the house in your clean uh the she is the goddess of protection
02:22:39.960and vigilance ever vigilant um i think that uh during the renaissance era people that drew the
02:22:47.720our senior clean kind of likened her to minerva so maybe that's where i'm kind of getting it but
02:22:53.960she is the ever vigilant herman lawns uh associated the owl with uh with brig um
02:23:05.000but yeah it was just a cool cool happening um
02:23:10.680next one we got i think is really oh i'm sorry i didn't notice this until just now
02:23:16.920rage of red bought us 10 coffees that's 50 donation thank you so much for that we appreciate
02:23:23.160it very much um so question from the wolf throne does the afa do something similar to
02:23:33.000murti worship in vedic religion not necessarily praying but it's an idea of meditating upon
02:23:40.760sacred images of the gods and goddesses for example meditating upon an image of asa thor
02:23:47.240as a way to come to know thor more intimately this is something that i personally as i've been
02:23:55.000i do personally as i've been taking more inspiration from vedic religion in my
02:23:58.440master practice um so in a general sense yes i want to better understand if murty has to be
02:24:14.560three-dimensional or can be um two-dimensional because we i mean we absolutely pray in front of
02:24:25.120our images of the gods and spend time with that as a focal point and meditation
02:24:31.760um yeah this was not a stage shot but it's one of my favorite afa pictures that nick just put up
02:24:41.980um i was just taking a moment of prayer to uh also thor in that picture and somebody happened
02:24:49.060to happen to capture it i think it was after i did a thor bloat in his in his hof
02:24:57.940but yeah we every time i go to a hof i go in front of um the mural and i you know give my
02:25:09.700obeisance and you know greetings and i i say a prayer to the god of the hof
02:25:19.060um i know many people go up to that area right in front of the altar and just
02:25:27.000you know take some time in prayer and meditation i think that's very common and i think that on
02:25:34.760our home altars most people have um you know some kind of statuary to the gods
02:25:43.320um if not they'll have uh pictures and and do that but no i think that's very common i don't
02:25:53.480my understanding of certain forms honestly my my understanding of hindu murti
02:26:04.440Murti Puja, Murti worship practices comes from what the Hare Krishnas do with their Murtis.
02:26:14.800And I mean, we don't have elaborate things where we like dress them up and prepare the meals and do like as intense as that, I would say,0.81
02:26:29.700because i don't think it's just not how we've currently developed most often that wouldn't be
02:26:37.140wrong or bad to do just because most of our imagery is two-dimensional i don't think it
02:26:42.580lends itself certainly to adorning it with decoration the same way that a three-dimensional
02:26:49.460representation would um but we often leave you know plates or leave food offerings
02:26:56.980certainly drink offerings and almost always incense offerings um so yeah i think that's
02:27:05.300really common in that sense now there may be more to your question and if there is please
02:27:09.620let us know swan is it something that maybe you're more familiar with or have anything you
02:27:13.940want to add on it yeah i think that the imagery that i have been blessed to do was with two
02:27:25.780intentions one to create um physical and symbolic form in order to emphasize spiritual tenants and
02:27:34.980the other is to combine lore and elements that will help further uh someone's understanding of lore
02:27:44.820um the down to um lord thor you know in his belt is grithable the the iron rod um inside
02:27:57.080me and yorth and me and yorth has you know specific runes uh denoting the name me and
02:28:04.080yorth might of the earth and um uh the the cascading of lightning from the top as opposed
02:28:12.420to perhaps you know mid-swing or or something of that nature there was there was all in tension
02:28:17.460with the idea of where these placements are and then there was intention with the boat being you
02:28:24.100know a a foundation not um anchored not set that this was a this was a time in which even holy
02:28:34.900Thor himself was, was not able to pull and stabilize his power. Um, and that, um, the
02:28:43.480positioning of, of the arms, the, the one arm up and the one arm lateral, um, because this is
02:28:50.440actually just a play on the Thurza's rune. And I know I, I, I never really had a chance to tell
02:28:57.660people about it, but yeah, the, the, the reason why his arm is one is held high and the other is
02:29:03.280held straight out is because this is a thirst room um hidden in the imagery um the uh the the color
02:29:13.320of his tunic being red and black and gold um is uh the gold representing the solar the black
02:29:21.140representing the night and the red representing kind of the the fire of the sky from the icier
02:29:27.500But his pants or his breeches are green and blue, representing the earth and the water, because he is the son of Yarth and Lord Odin, the sky and the earth.
02:29:39.580So there's a lot of stuff in there. And then to kind of fill in the cracks, the mortar between the bricks is the runic.
02:29:46.500And the runic is just very simple. It's simply stating that Heimir is filled with fear, and Lord Thor is taking this moment to slay the foe of men, Jormungandr.
02:30:03.080Some people have asked me about the oddity of his positioning, but that's why. It's a Thurizos.0.89
02:30:09.120my new cat is trying to chew on my finger i'm trying to dissuade him from doing so
02:30:20.140i was going to say like each of the uh the fact that uh your uh lord and yonder is giving and
02:30:30.260it says in the runics that his giving hands no no no bounds or his giving hands no no end
02:30:36.400the giving god and the fruitfulness and he's passing the the fish to to the seagull um the
02:30:44.760fact that he's reclining uh was kind of both a you know it was a a thing that was necessary
02:30:51.760because of the wall space but um it became again a sense of of um enjoying the fruits of your of
02:30:59.760your work he's done fishing and now he's relaxing in the sun um lord odin you know is sitting in the
02:31:08.340cusp between a threshold he's literally painted on a stanchion or an ounce the something that
02:31:14.720holds the building up and uh on one side is darkness and the other is light and it shows his
02:31:23.020his movement, Sleipnir, the one that allows him to move, is, you know, presented on the light
02:31:30.680as, you know, seeking knowledge, seeking the secrets that are no longer able to hide in the
02:31:37.400light. And then on the other side is the darkness, the doom of the gods that was wrought when
02:31:47.180olden dillion they slayed emir and sealed the fate and that's mentioned in the stone so there's
02:31:53.180a lot of imagery and and symbology that i took with the intention of hoping that people would
02:31:58.980develop this meditative look at uh at the gods i think that everything that if we do this at home
02:32:09.260should be done in that way it should uh i i like statuary and i think some of them are really
02:32:14.580really cool but there should be an essence of building towards a meditative connection
02:32:20.740towards the gods um and i have always taken to calling idols godsteads or or pictures of the
02:32:28.180gods to be called godsteads places that are in your home or in your uh hall or in the hof and
02:32:36.580they are absolutely open to the holy divine sitting there and looking upon the folk so there
02:32:45.700is uh you know the sense that these these these powerful uh items kind of are an anchoring point
02:32:55.140in which uh the gods can kind of uh weave their orlaw into the area
02:33:01.860i think that as we go forward too we're going to have a commonality of things
02:33:13.140i know people are starting to see um i mean it's mentioned in the gil beginning it's mentioned in
02:33:18.500the volus bow it's mentioned in the um the little volus bow if you will that we're going over next
02:33:24.960time you know the gods are 12 and so you see the son and rod behind the head of the holy ice here
02:33:33.680um with 12 spokes specifically to represent and they are a goal a golden color to represent that
02:33:41.120divinity that is not once tread in the mortal blood uh for that you know you'll see it behind
02:33:47.280someone's head in red these things are kind of things that were never they they were established
02:33:52.720organically but haven't really been crossed and we we are crossing that imagery and uh i think
02:33:58.560also here ago they have said like you know generations to come perhaps people will look
02:34:03.760back and go oh you know this time of artwork these things were being emphasized and and
02:34:10.560the swan period yeah i mean so when we see modern also true art spawns art is very distinctive
02:34:20.240um i think also uh ron mcbann's art is very distinctive
02:34:27.440and a lot of it that you end up seeing is black and white like pen and ink
02:34:33.840almost geometric almost has like an escher quality to it or whatever it's it's very distinctive and
02:34:41.680you can pick it out and it's really interesting and i think that that along with his poetry has
02:34:48.800been very influential to a lot of us um but you can pick ron's stuff out a mile away and it's really
02:34:58.880it's very distinctive in its purpose and what he does um there's some dragon head like
02:35:10.320i don't know what you'd call them but altar pieces that we have at odin's off
02:37:06.720hey hush i don't know my kittens fussing about something anyways he'll figure it out um next
02:37:19.020question uh matt from wolf throne also matt and spawn would you say the yotnar are the
02:37:29.280astral equivalent of the Asuras in Vedic religion. From what I understand, Asuras are demonic beings
02:37:39.340who oppose the gods. Svan, what do you say to that? And are you, how familiar are you with that0.94
02:37:49.640concept? I'm fairly familiar, but one thing that I keyed in on that isn't mentioned in the question
02:37:56.420is there's actually a title for the asuras that become deva and that is a key thing that
02:38:04.740really led me down uh the creation of the of the titling of aust veneer um you know we spoke of
02:38:14.900the ice here we speak of the house the the 12 gods we speak of the our senior and then we speak
02:38:22.080the oust veneer these primordial um beings that are brought into an alignment with the gods and
02:38:30.240i think that there is um mention of that amongst the asura so to consider them wholly demonic or
02:38:38.880antithetical to the gods i don't think is the correct path um but i mean i'm from a from an
02:38:45.280outside perspective immediately like that could be placed with the famorians of the celts or um
02:38:52.160the uh the titans amongst the uh greco-roman so i i can understand the the immediacy to do that
02:39:00.080and in a lot of ways it it is that in broad spectrum but the difference between the gods
02:39:06.960and the otans is like they're not a different race they are kind of entirely built upon the
02:39:14.160intention of the way that they manipulate uh cosmic matter or cosmic stuff um the gods bring
02:39:23.040to order the vanir are the embodiment of natural law um and uh the icier are the embodiment of
02:39:31.120cosmic order and when they align they become one so cosmic order and natural law are
02:39:37.920uh unbreakable like a ring and then there are primordial beings who come into alignment with
02:39:45.200the icier and join in that but there is still a large you know corpus of the of the the yotnar
02:39:54.320who are built on their their titling i always kind of label as resistance so we have natural law
02:40:03.280we have cosmic order and then in the east that which flows into the middle from yotan
02:40:10.160is resistance and dissipation and natural law is built on life life is constantly flowing against
02:40:18.640resistance and that kind of creates the the engine of the middle world um and then you know
02:40:27.280the ice here on top of that drape on the foundational pillars of time of law of precepts
02:40:35.680that that are outside of the cyclical time so yotnar in and of themselves generally are resistance0.84
02:40:43.680and there are certain things that when the yotnar come into the dominion of the ice here that is a
02:40:49.680form of resistance that is shifting and relenting into order and coming into a into part this the
02:40:59.360aust veneer you know it we talk about yard the holy goddess of the earth we talk about grida
02:41:06.640the the dark side of the earth the sister of her if you will the the um she is the the one you know
02:41:13.520who creates tension the the tectonic plates the the springs the chasms of the earth and
02:41:20.320and the geysers and all things violent kind of are attested to her she's the earth that isn't
02:41:25.840so giving or kind um and has helped thor gives him the uh gives him breathable um we talk about
02:41:34.080render render is the oust veneer of the ice and of the cold and the and the uh the freezing um
02:41:42.160um, you know, rind of, of, of the cold. Um, Skavi, again, of the mountains, uh, you know,
02:41:50.840the scathing one, she cuts into the skin or the flesh of the earth, like a glacier, you know,
02:41:57.320and, and the, the idea of her being that which is birthed from the mountains, um, and, you know,
02:42:02.840again, being the, the connection to the Lord of the waters, um, you know, and we talk about the
02:42:10.140Veneer with all of these kind of understanding that they either produce children or align or
02:42:17.780sometimes both. Gríðr did both. She helps Thor and then also is the mother of Vidar, the wide
02:42:25.120ruler. And so we see this alignment and in our stories, marriage and childbirth are kind of
02:42:30.760the symbol of that alignment, that joining into the tribe. And again, Mimir. Mimir is
02:42:37.980um uh he is placed at at the receptacle of time time the origination of time flows out of earth's0.50
02:42:47.700well or it seeps down into the unknown which eventually falls to the middle world and
02:42:53.860everything that happens here in the middle world because resistance is flowing in and dissipation
02:42:58.600is taking it out all time and all of all of that which happens in the middle eventually funnels
02:43:05.300into Jotunheim, into the east. And there Lord Odin placed Mimir's head in order to connect
02:43:12.940himself to the receptacle of all deeds. So now he can see the beginning and the end of time and of
02:43:21.020deed of Orla. That's really, really important to understand that. And I guess the other thing is
02:43:29.420the further back you go, the closer to Bergelmer. So Ogilmer is Ymir. Ogilmer is just another name
02:43:40.320for Ymir. Bergelmer is the son of Ymir, and he and his wife in the lore escape the deluge of
02:43:47.660blood, and they flow into the east. And then they are barred there by the holy gods as they build
02:43:55.320the the range to keep them out of the material um they are from that kin the closer they are
02:44:06.140they remember the slaying of emir so they hold an antithetical or or um you know just
02:44:13.520a resistance against the gods um but as their generations grow uh just like we see the
02:44:22.380generations of the gods, you know, knowing that Lord Njordr and Lord Odin are older gods. Lord
02:44:30.940Tyr is an old god. They've been around longer than perhaps, say, like if we were to look at
02:44:36.900Forseti or Magni and Modi. And I'm not stating that we can kind of like chronologically place
02:44:44.900them. We just kind of generally visualize them as being older and younger. It's the same way
02:44:51.680with the Jotnar. There are older that remember and are in the outer guard. They sit out there0.99
02:44:57.900and there's no alignment that can be found. But the younger generations begin to see
02:45:06.980that aligning and maintaining is better than to, you know, the resistance and the dissipation.
02:45:14.140um but yeah to call them demonic i mean there's elements amongst them we also know of the reeseed
02:45:22.140we also know of the thirst but uh just like with the hindus the uh asuras can also take the form
02:45:31.060of like land based or um spirits of destruction like the raksasa or um you know these these
02:45:41.160beings that live within the darkness of the jungle or live within you know the confines of of the
02:45:47.080mountains i think that that was understood by our ancestors as well that the jotnar kind of um
02:45:53.880they're perhaps their descendants these these fragments these kind of bestial um remnants of
02:46:00.640the jotnar exist in the middle world and kind of bleed over and that's why lord thor is constantly
02:46:06.680trying to keep them at bay he's they call him i'm riding the one who rides alone and he rides out
02:46:13.080and he tries to constantly keep this flow of resistance and and venom and dissipation from
02:46:21.040tearing the fabric of reality and um so i i think there's commonality there when we talk about like
02:46:28.680if you would the demon opposite like trolls are kind of the same thing i know we kind of think of
02:46:35.340them christianity has kind of turned them into you know frumpy or big giant kind of oafish things
02:46:40.720with elemental um dressings but yeah they're you know terrible beings that inhabit places of you
02:46:48.080know great sorrow or just great desolation and isolation um and you know they hide because if
02:46:55.520they make themselves known you know uh lord thor will you know seek them out um and another thing
02:47:05.320worth remembering too is jotun means ancient being or descended of ancient beings a lot of folks
02:47:12.440forget that the gods are descended from jotuns that are of the eldest plane
02:47:20.360they're from nevelheim not from midgard they're not from emir they are of the rim thurser of the
02:47:27.240old just like sutr the rymthurs are from even before emir and before adumla and before
02:47:36.360yggdrasil so a lot of folks get that confused when they hear yacht and they immediately think emir
02:47:42.520um and there are far more ancient and a different you know place than um than the descendants of
02:47:51.080solely emir like uh best law is not derived from emir she is derived from the the proto matter of
02:48:03.160the universe um nibelheim all righty um yeah i thoughts on i don't know i don't think it goes
02:48:18.280over completely perfect that way it's interesting to me that indra is considered a asura um i don't
02:48:32.120know exactly how that breakdown works we always see that dichotomy between these previous generations
02:48:41.400of powerful um metaphysical i guess beings um divinity or proto-divinity
02:48:56.760we see the yotnar we see the titans um
02:49:04.200we see that a lot and i think that when we look for exact cognates on it we
02:49:09.720sometimes that's tricky but i think that is a concept there's
02:49:17.720there's something there but i wouldn't buy into it too heavy because i think it evolves
02:49:22.440really really differently i think that there is
02:49:33.720okay so this is a controversial statement but i think that there's truth in it
02:49:37.960But when you look at what the closest, I don't know, modern or semi-modern equivalent is to the development of Alcetru, I think a lot of people go with Hinduism.
02:49:54.880And I think in a lot of ways, medieval Catholicism is a lot more similar because it draws on European traditions and overlays it with Jesus.
02:50:08.220Whereas Hinduism keeps ancestral conception of divinity, but then infuses all the admixture of Dravidian things to it over time.
02:50:26.600And it becomes very, very different because the folk don't practice that faith.0.78
02:50:33.120Other people's folk practice that faith.
02:50:35.860and so I think it's really interesting
02:50:38.900and I think there's lessons to be learned
02:53:53.800we can be very seriously in the planning phases for phrasehoff within two years
02:53:59.720if everyone were to jump in and donate if every member of the afa were to donate 102 today
02:54:07.400mjordshoff would be paid off and we would immediately move into coming with our planning
02:54:12.920for phraseoff but um that said we need to generate that and go ahead and pay off new york off we also
02:54:21.400need to raise our um current income level by our monthly income needs to go up by 9.6
02:54:36.440percent before we're in a spot to main not to get phrase hoff but to maintain phrase hoff
02:54:44.520so we have a couple of things that we want to do to be responsible to make that happen i think we
02:54:48.920can be in the chase for phrase hoff within two years i'd love to see it sooner if you guys want
02:54:54.840to you know if you guys are able to i i would love to do it i mean i'd love to be doing that
02:55:02.760top of next year but i think that that's going to take a very very generous amount of donation
02:55:10.920but yeah as soon as we can go ahead and pay off your top we'll get started on phrase
02:55:14.680hoff i would love to see that within the next two years
02:55:26.120yeah go ahead so um i noticed and i just want to clarify it because
02:55:31.560um you know it's verbiage that we are um teaching and going through i noticed that wolf throne said
02:55:38.760you know he said the house vanir um in relation to the the beloved ones the word is actually
02:55:45.640oust a s t v i n i r and oust means love so if you were to say like the goddess of love in old
02:55:55.320norse it would be aust and that would be the goddess of love or um you could say like
02:56:01.560aust work which would mean like um charity uh as an example so aust veneer means beloved ones
02:56:11.400um it uh a lot of folks uh in other like groups of try to say like troll wives or
02:56:18.600jot and brides or other things and i felt that that was too divisive in the titling so looking
02:56:26.920at things um and trying to kind of title uh find a better title that i think was more pious
02:56:34.200so austvenir is uh one word but it's a s t v i n r and it means the beloved ones the ones who are
02:56:43.160brought into the fold of the gods and the fact that it has the oust beginning is
02:56:49.720definitely lent the reasoning for that translation um
02:56:55.800yeah and it's it's it's spelled it's spelled like this um you know i i know this is terrible
02:57:02.200just scribbling it out but yeah it's one word austvinia yeah and it means the beloved ones
02:57:09.480the ones who are brought into the fold or have born um icier children yeah and so i think it has
02:57:19.000a lot of of a more pious um view of of these elemental beings coming into yeah there's not
02:57:28.200i just saw it and i was like oh man we got to clear this up just to make sure because i don't
02:57:31.800want people to think like oh you know they don't they're making some wild claims love friends
02:57:39.480yeah uh the yes the beloved one the loving the the love friends right yeah and i mean but
02:57:51.000i mean we talk about boyfriend and girlfriend it doesn't
02:57:55.160there are different types of friendship love friends i think that's a fine translation of it
02:58:00.600i was just as some of you may know i'm swan and i both and a number of us are really working on
02:58:07.320our understanding of the old norse and so it's kind of an ongoing process and we kind of nerd
02:58:13.480out on some linguistics on here full time to time it's so a note on that it's funny and some of it's
02:58:22.760kind of a nerd eccentric eccentricity but i think that also what i've noticed as i've started to go
02:58:31.320down that more and more and try to understand the language more and more it adds dimensionality and
02:58:37.640it helps really form it a deeper understanding of lore i've noticed it a lot when i try to trace
02:58:48.760back names when i try to conceptualize the runes so the rune name comes to come to us in uh like
02:58:59.880proto-germanic when you try to follow that linearly into you know what would the old
02:59:08.440norse name for our runes be you come into some very interesting crossroads where you can see
02:59:15.480why some of the rune poems don't make a lot of sense because there's times when you could go
02:59:20.920left or you could go right and one makes all the sense in the world and carries on the continuity
02:59:25.960and one goes a really different direction so it's really informative the more that
02:59:30.760you're able to do it and that's something we're working hard um i i did see nick also brought up
02:59:38.680a point the usage of the number four there is the aus the aus senior the aus venir and the hymen
02:59:47.720the uh four is a symbol of stability so it kind of uh shows in essence the kind of four
02:59:55.320nomenclatured spaces in which we identify the gods there are the 12 hours there are the 14
03:00:01.960hours in your that are mentioned in the guild beginning there are 10 hours and there are six
03:00:08.520heavenly wardens now is this in concrete no because they're we still discuss like um you know
03:00:14.840the regional uh the germanic goddess hola her place or just we're not stating these are the
03:00:22.520only gods what we are stating is that this is a the best way for someone coming into ausitru and
03:00:29.480the afa is saying like look this is a great way for you to learn all of the divine beings that um
03:00:36.200through the lore um basis point this is a really important thing that i want folks to internalize to
03:00:44.360you. Fundamentally, and I'm sure there's more eloquent ways to put this,
03:00:55.180Ausatru is much more of a thou shalt religion than a thou shalt not religion. There's plenty
03:01:02.460of things that are bad that you shouldn't do. Let's not pretend that's not the case,
03:01:07.400but that's not how we express our approach to life we talk about what we love who we are
03:01:17.280what we celebrate who we worship we don't start with all the things we don't like all the things
03:01:28.420we don't worship all the things we can't stand all the things we hate that's not
03:01:34.400those things exist and it would be dishonest to imply that doesn't exist but that's not how we
03:01:44.720express ourselves it's one of the reasons that we call ourselves ousatru as opposed to something
03:01:51.480else we're not how other people define us as the other we are us everybody else is other
03:01:58.020and they're free to define themselves by their own terms that's fine and i respect that
03:02:03.760But that's why we choose to define who we are, not as a reaction to something different, but as a positive expression of our folk soul, of our gods, of our ancestors, and of our will to power as people, as a being, as a folk.
03:02:23.920um and it may i don't know it may seem like a word game but it's not it really affects
03:02:33.200how you think how you conceptualize the world so in the afa we
03:02:41.120we're able to codify some very distinct things that you don't do but more importantly what
03:02:49.440we're focusing on is a growing list of things that you ought to do so our list of gods and
03:02:57.380goddesses at this point in time is not complete or comprehensive or the only but it's the you
03:03:04.580should do this well but what about that we didn't say that we said you should do this are you doing
03:03:11.800this okay once you are then we can talk about maybe what else you should do but you should do
03:03:20.280this you know nine noble virtues but what about this is a virtue too nobody said it wasn't but
03:03:27.480we said these are good do you dispute that okay cool let's do these um a lot of people
03:03:36.840project that in the world we live in today people are very sensitive and they're very trigger happy
03:03:44.440unless you endorse their little thing you must be adamantly opposed to it and that's not the case
03:03:54.040there's it's funny i try to teach my four-year-old this all the time you know she asks
03:04:01.000I need to have one color that I like. I can't like multiple colors. I've got to have like
03:04:09.260one color. Like, is this your favorite color? You love red? You don't like? No, I can like a lot of
03:04:15.180different colors. There's a lot of things that, you know, I can enjoy a lot of different kinds
03:04:18.780of candy, a lot of different things. I'm sorry. Those ones have come up near Halloween when
03:04:23.860dealing with my daughter. I don't just love chocolate. I like sour candy too. I can get
03:04:30.480down a lot of different kinds of candy let me tell you um no but realistically
03:04:40.080you it would be wrong-headed and it would be exhausting to rather than define the things you
03:04:49.520like define all the things you don't like and that's not that's not a religion that's an
03:04:59.440absence of the religion that's like your religion is the negative space of all of the positive
03:05:05.920things that you've cut out and whatever's left over is what you believe in and that's
03:05:10.800that's not our approach that's not also true we carve out for ourselves the things that we do
03:05:16.640celebrate and that we do engage in and then we take the rest as it comes to us on whether it's
03:05:24.320beneficial or not um nick bell music wants to know a question for spawn what do you think about the
03:05:35.760trinity of evolution of consciousness of simple uh simple consciousness self-consciousness and
03:05:43.360cosmic consciousness uh i i see that within the tripartite that is lord odin um
03:05:52.720um so i 100 believe it and short answer you can kind of see it there is the uh the simple
03:06:00.960knowledge or the knowledge that is the will so that's that is um of lord odin that is villi
03:06:07.840the uh so you said simple knowledge what was the other knowledge and then cosmic there was simple
03:06:15.360self um but either way you can see this in the names of the tripartite that is lord odin there
03:06:27.720is uh villi the will i think this is the simplest form of consciousness in the sense that it
03:06:35.020implements action then there is vey vey is the um the will of the self and the soul and then there
03:06:43.780is the cosmic uh the the uh yeah so simple consciousness implements physicality self
03:06:50.900consciousness exemplifies the internal the soul and then cosmic is the woad or the other which is
03:06:59.140um lord odin so the the trinity within the the tripartite lord odin himself in his facets
03:07:09.060shows those three things so yes i 100 believe that that is a thing i also believe that this
03:07:15.940is represented through the valknot the vote not represents the three who is one interlinked the
03:07:22.580attainment of knowledge the process of knowledge the releasing of knowledge the implementation of
03:07:27.700will the introspection and building of the soul and then the unifying knowledge towards that which
03:07:35.140is greater, the woad self. So Lord Ovin, Lord Vili, Lord Ve, all three represent those distinct
03:07:44.420consciousnesses that you just mentioned. After the first 14, will we move on to the
03:07:55.700als veneer such as sky these hoff so i don't know i think that's the honest answer i think you want
03:08:09.860like a really cool answer and i would love to give you one um but truth is one of our values
03:08:16.580when kind of a um a history or a ipa fueled aside if you will um
03:08:33.620from the throat of the eagle so realistically um when we got odin's off
03:08:40.900and that was um before i say before my time not really but before my house harrier gathord uh
03:08:51.580started it was under the administration steve mcdallan he got that half and it was like one
03:08:57.460and done like hey we've got one finally because until then the idea of having a half was elusive
03:09:05.820for shoot since the 70s i mean i read things in like 1972 about how hoff is imminent and one did
03:09:18.900not happen until until 2015 um so that was like v hoff and i remember it was a really big thing
03:09:27.380and originally that hoff was named new grange hall and it was just the afa's hoff
03:09:38.620that was the Hoff like we have a Hoff now the Hoff there is one one and done Hoff boom
03:09:47.440and very quickly after that that was the fall of 2015 as I mentioned earlier October October of
03:09:55.720in 2015. um i became all's harrier gothi in
03:10:02.360started in motion in um around ostara of 2016 and became official at midsummer 2016. so
03:10:14.280less than a year in and i can find the date when we officially
03:10:19.240dedicated the Hoff to Odin. And it was really important for me to do that
03:10:25.480because there were many more Hoffs to come. It wasn't like just one for the AFA. Our gods
03:10:32.720deserve their own Hoffs. And that was really important to establish. And something that
03:10:40.480an order of what Hoffs to do was something that we'd thought about for a long time,
03:10:48.980at least at least i had and um a go-fi that was a mentor to me a guy brad taylor hicks
03:11:00.820who's a really good friend of mine um for for a time there for a really important time in my life
03:11:07.060and a very important mentor of mine and he and i talked about this a lot on you know how do
03:11:14.820we narrow it down everybody's got all these different ideas about what gods or which and
03:11:19.540this and that and we really focused in on the gilfaginning as being a comprehensive listing
03:11:25.540of the gods that our ancestors felt were appropriate for us to give worship to
03:11:30.740and that gave birth to the order in which we were going to do these hoffs
03:11:36.820so the listing of the gods as they're laid out in the gilfaginning is the order in which we are
03:11:43.460committed doing that and it takes a little bit of reading the text and reading into it because it it
03:11:50.980names a list of of 14 gods but it says 12 are beneficial for mankind to worship two or not
03:12:01.940and two or not and the two if you read the text and you and you you pay attention to that
03:12:08.820it becomes clear but it takes a little bit of you know
03:12:14.260a little bit of study and a little bit of paying attention to the writing
03:12:18.340but then it lists uh the asenior and whereas the gods there's very obviously like odin is odin is a
03:12:29.140at a different level than the other um isir people have this multicultural
03:12:41.620odin's the all-father you know banquisha is a daughter of the alpha no it says in that text
03:12:49.860he's called the all-father because he's the father of all of the isir all of the isir serve him as
03:12:55.700children to a father so he is he is the king he is in a paternal role over the icer um
03:13:06.420so there's clearly both in in in a primacy with the other icer you know serving him and then
03:13:15.380Then, when it talks of the al-senior, it's very clear that Mother Frigg and Lady Freya are in an elevated position in relation to the other al-senior that they mention.
03:13:33.840so it was very important that we have the 12 isere that men ought to worship and then we have
03:13:41.440the two very prominent al senior and from there we'll make decisions as to where we want to go
03:13:47.340at that point but this first if y'all rush me and the donations come in and this is a decision i
03:13:58.740have to make here quickly. That is an amazing problem to have. I would love nothing more in
03:14:05.620this world to have that problem to figure out. Realistically, four Hoffs in nine years.0.68
03:20:38.940yeah just so everybody knows uh morris i see your thing over in the side um
03:20:48.540i don't know your situation you say you're you know not a particularly religious person but if
03:20:52.940you had a religious wife and kids you'd want to default afa first thank you for that i appreciate
03:20:59.660i appreciate that um i don't know if you have a irreligious wife and kids so that's not a thing
03:21:09.900or if you are perhaps unmarried and that may be in your future if it is i i hope that you do
03:21:14.780have a religious wife and kids that come to us and you know if you are ever interested i'm
03:21:21.180really glad you're on the podcast listening if you ever have any questions or you know i think
03:21:27.260that may mean different things to different people but it's our mission to bring all our
03:21:32.540folk home and i just want to put the invite out if there's reasons that you don't join the afa
03:21:39.260but that you wouldn't you know are open to or contemplating it please do reach out i'd love
03:21:45.660to talk to you about that if not enjoy the program i'm glad that you're here i want everybody to know
03:21:50.620that too um so we try i've tried to get better at working the algorithms on stuff our twitter
03:22:01.340reach has gotten bigger than it was which is cool we've got a good following on here
03:22:08.060if everyone who followed us on twitter it's at like 5 500 right now that's amazing if all
03:22:13.980those people would join the afa we would be so much stronger and so much closer to what
03:22:18.380we want to achieve but hopefully they will over time but i want everybody to know
03:22:26.060have friends family anybody who's interested come on here you don't have to be also true
03:22:31.020to be in the audience of the program or to ask questions um in life we send out ripples
03:22:39.020with our co-workers with our family with our friends um there may be a lot of people that
03:22:46.140don't want to join or whatever that may have friends that do or may have uh people who their
03:22:53.020life touches that should be here so absolutely anybody that wants to be on here and ask questions
03:23:01.180or just you know participate in what we're doing please feel really free to and uh share this and
03:23:10.140And, you know, sometimes we get people on here who are members of the AFA that are really defensive of me and of us, and I love them and I appreciate that so much.
03:23:22.560But so you know where I'm coming from, even if you are adamantly opposed to stuff or you don't like things or you're, you know, the enemy in some way.
03:23:35.420If you're on here and you ask a question and it's respectful and honest, I'm happy to answer your question.
03:24:04.840Sorry. So this is any of you who are super duper long time listeners to this that were listening when I was doing a live thing once a month.
03:24:18.220Used to be before I had producer Nick and before I had a fancy set up with all this and it was just me trying to figure it out.
03:24:24.800There was all this dead air while I'm sitting there trying to read the side comments.
03:24:28.940I say that to say, forgive me if every now and again there's a little bit, because I do try to catch up over on the side and see where we're at.
03:24:36.440But if you ever wonder why there's awkward pauses, that's why.
03:24:41.640Does the AFA have a policy concerning cannabis use?
03:24:45.340I've tried edibles, and that was a mistake.
03:24:49.820No, the AFA has a policy of, the AFA advocates that you keep it legal.
03:24:55.760whatever you're doing if it's legal where you're doing it and so i'm not excusing
03:25:02.240other behavior i'm saying as far as recreational consumption of substances
03:25:10.480we don't our policy with all of the things
03:25:14.000is to be responsible and be noble in what you do and if your consumption of substances makes you
03:25:19.840a burden upon your family your friends your community or lead you to destructive lifestyle
03:25:32.260then don't do that if you can master the load and you use substances that
03:25:39.860are medicinal to you or help you experience things differently and that it's legal where
03:25:48.480you're doing it then that's you know betwixt you and your conscience and the gods um but in all
03:25:57.040things what's really important is your ability to be a master of self there's times where you
03:26:06.320let go around your friends and people who are close to you and i get that but there's levels
03:26:13.120to that i think we all know you know some people can handle a variety of things that they do be it
03:26:21.040alcohol be it marijuana be it you know anything else that are negative and have a negative effect
03:26:30.640on themselves their family and their standing amongst their peers who judge them be aware of
03:26:36.560that and act accordingly part of the part of the obligation of being an aryan which means being
03:26:45.680noble is having the ability to make choices for yourself in your life and and to celebrate the
03:26:54.800success of those choices or to suffer from the ill effects of those choices and as a man we
03:27:03.520We have a heightened responsibility of inflicting those choices upon our families.
03:27:10.360Make sure that the choices that you make are, you know, are a positive and not a negative.
03:27:17.060And I think that's the most the AFA really advises on that.0.99
03:27:22.940Don't be one of those jerks that tries to blow pot smoke in kids' faces or in, like, your dog or your cat's face.0.99
03:27:29.620that's nonsense and someone should punch you if you do that um but again if it is if it is1.00
03:27:39.300legally inadvisable to punch someone who does that in your in your jurisdiction refrain0.96
03:27:50.900that is your your psa to keep it between the lines um
03:27:55.700um question for spawn apologies if i and we've got a couple of new people or people in here who don't
03:28:03.100ask questions before that's awesome and we love seeing that uh apologies if i've asked you this
03:28:08.180before what would your take on the trinity zero equals one equals infinity what does your mind
03:28:17.200do when you see that equation uh zero equals one equals infinity in relation to the tripartite or
03:28:30.640the trinity or when you see that equation spawn uh well immediately it to me it speaks of the
03:28:40.800um the functionality of lord odin um you can see in our lore that the the value of zero is
03:28:48.720unquantifiable so lord odin is um is a tripartite within himself or a trinity within himself and um
03:28:59.280that formulation in the individual which is one lord odin um gives him access to the dynamic to