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00:12:21.140With that, Svon, would you like to take folks into the text so we can learn about Kennings
00:12:28.260for, oh, I should say this, I'm sorry, some, okay, so doing this weekly, I think we get
00:12:37.240kind of in a, in a zone where we all know what's going on, we'll forget that some of
00:12:41.940the listeners and people who are watching this may not be, this may be y'all's first
00:12:45.800time. So, um, of note, the Skald Skapramau is very specifically a poem to instruct, uh,
00:13:00.360skulls or bards in the poetic tradition of Norse, of Old Norse, specifically taking place
00:13:16.260in Iceland, and it is something really special continues to happen in Iceland as being kind
00:13:28.340a far-flung reach of Nordic culture, there was a special emphasis placed on retaining stories
00:13:40.580and songs and poetry and the linguistic tradition of their ancestors, and it has preserved Old Norse
00:13:50.180to where modern icelandic is intelligible to old norse and vice versa
00:13:58.020it's you know it is identical in many cases it is
00:14:05.780astronomically separate than others uh and along with that recording very ancient styles of poetry
00:14:13.700of poetry of recitation meter and of those traditions and of naming they've held on to
00:14:21.220those things for the longest and a big part of setting that off was way back when when
00:14:27.300snorri sterleson put this down to help instruct those who came after him
00:14:32.500up to and including today to understand that very specific style of poetry but a big boon for us
00:14:40.180who are also true is this was there was a very deliberate attempt to accurately preserve the
00:14:48.980stories of our faith as part of that that tradition that they wanted to maintain and
00:14:55.540hold on to even post conversion so this is special and it gives us really good opportunity
00:15:02.180And yeah, this bit is a part of that discussion on how to poetically refer to our gods, our goddesses, and mythic events.
00:15:15.640And often it has examples of famous scholars of the time and ways that they have chosen to use the kennings or these poetic references in their works.
00:15:32.180so it's fine if you would take oh again while i was talking roland donated 50 oh i'm sorry ronald
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00:16:03.5402025 folk builder of the year as a matter of fact in new hampshire and he is doing amazing things
00:16:11.140up there so if you guys are in that part of the country make sure you check in with him and get
00:16:16.580involved that said spawn would you like to take them into the text and uh the stanza that we last
00:16:24.180left on um did you say 20 or uh excuse me uh 37 no i said we are starting at 27. 27 okay
00:16:40.900i was uh panicking a little bit there i was like wait a minute um
00:16:46.580So, another thing to consider is that a lot of these from the Scald Scalper's mouth is the Scaldic handbook of quick guide reference in relation to creating your own poetry or reciting and understanding old poetry.
00:17:14.400I think that there was this sense that there would be the possibility for poetry to grow from this point.
00:17:26.040But he wanted to know or wanted the young poets to know where everything comes from or multiple angles.
00:17:37.300And so that's why it's written in these slices.
00:17:40.460um and so we hear you know the kennings of the kennings of this the kennings of that
00:17:47.700and basically it's so that the poet can go and read this section and go okay i have multiple
00:17:55.860different ways that i can speak about a subject in the lore and the reasoning for that is is
00:18:03.200Because with alliterative poetry, they wanted to make sure that there were multiple sounds starting at the beginning of words so that they could alliterate them and not get overused.
00:18:20.760So not only does it promote memorizing great amounts of lore, but also forces the poet to not overrun.
00:18:34.640That's kind of why you see these repeating verses in, say, like the Volaspau or in Grimnismal.
00:18:44.500And these were markers that were utilized, but the better the poet, the less there was this need for these repetitions.
00:18:56.740So 37, we have the Kennings of winter.
00:19:11.260thus call it the son of wind svaler so the the the where we're talking about um here the biggest
00:19:26.440important thing is lore little bits of lore vince wallet is the the yacht nar that is of
00:19:34.420uh the the cold the forces of nature that are um brimming right on the edge of orla with the gods
00:19:47.740and sometimes flow in accordance but other times overflow and so you'll you'll see the powers
00:19:57.980there kind of referencing especially when it comes to fire and when it comes to winter um
00:20:04.700and things like that there are primordial forces that have been taken by um the yacht
00:20:12.860and apply themselves into the middle world um it is the destruction of serpents and the tempest
00:20:22.380season thus sang the poet ormir steinthorson to the blind man i prefer this blessing
00:20:35.420windswaller sun thus saying ausgrimmer the warlike spoil bestower lavish of wealth
00:20:45.740that winter snakes woe in thraundheim tarried the folk knew thy true actions
00:20:56.140so the referencing again is pretty clear when it comes to the snake um woe uh the cold um when we
00:21:07.020We speak of the actions here, though, that's kind of another problem.
00:21:14.440This poem is isolated, so kind of going deeper into it in relation.
00:21:20.260But again, it's only about referencing how winter was used as far as descriptions.
00:21:31.240So, again, the Jotnar and their placement in the middle world is an interesting point.
00:21:39.220I think I saw a question in the queue that might open this up a little bit more.
00:21:46.000But the point of it is, tell the poet all the different ways and origin of winter so that when they use it in poetry, they can embellish on it.
00:22:00.380Kennings for the summer. Now, there's another great point. Most people are of the Roman or
00:22:13.600Hellenic or Gregorian concept of the four seasons. Our ancestors had two seasons. There's the summer
00:22:23.500and the winter and fall and spring are just the entry into those seasons uh kind of like the
00:22:31.820the foyer of a house um but not separate from the totality of the house so that's why these two
00:22:40.940seasons are the only one mentioned because again uh in the four season uh summer starts at the
00:22:50.060solstice and winter technically starts at uh the solstice in december but for our ancestors that
00:22:58.860was midwinter so the arch was fully um brought to its zenith at that point so the kennings of summer
00:23:09.180How should one paraphrase summer? Thus, call it the sun of Svausudur, or the beautiful south, and comfort of serpents, and the growth of men, even as Eil Skalagrimsun sang.
00:24:01.760Okay. Ah, yes. The, the, um, Thor's, um, adventure and that's where we last left off. And there was a huge poem that we went through. It's been, um, it's been a bit since our last, um, VNS with, with us two.
00:24:23.620so i kind of was jumping ahead way ahead okay so the last uh at 27 still talking about the gods
00:24:35.860in particular the our senior we have 27 what are the kennings for freak how should one paraphrase
00:24:45.700Frigg. Call her the daughter of Fjarkin, wife of Odin, mother of Baldr, co-wife of Yorth,
00:24:59.060and Rindr, and Gunloth, and GrÃðr, mother-in-law of Nanna, lady of the Æsir and the Æsinyr,
00:25:11.380mistress of fulla and of the hawk plumage and of fen solid now a couple things about that
00:25:19.980co-wife and mistress um the meanings of words have changed so what it would be is like the
00:25:31.220the mother of children beset from lord odin that there's she is uh one of the mothers who has
00:25:44.120produced offspring from lord odin so co-wife is i don't you know it's the the translation there
00:25:52.760being not like everyone sharing at once but that there is a lineage that's clearly connected
00:25:59.920as well as mistress, meaning like they are cohorts, sisters who work together and they are mentioned quite often together.
00:26:14.700So Fula is her handmaiden, the number one of the handmaidens.
00:26:22.920maidens um so of all of the children born of lord odin she is one of the mothers along with yard
00:26:33.240the earth render the the icy cold uh gun love now that's an interesting one um because
00:26:44.360there is not an explicit point of Gunloth being the mother of Bragi. It's not fully said,
00:26:55.400but this is the verse that has inclined folks to believe this as so. Her name means
00:27:04.760battle song and she is in sutung's mountain and they uh they spend three nights together and
00:27:15.080it's referenced here that she is a mother but then it doesn't expand on this anywhere else
00:27:21.000unfortunately in the lore so there are um some folks who believe that bragi is a product of
00:27:29.080that coupling um and greeter um again this is in relation to the house and this is
00:27:38.680vali and vidar um and their connections to lord odin um the mother-in-law of nana
00:27:48.120is very interesting as well obviously through balder um but it talks about her being brought
00:27:54.760into the icier and the sharer of the hawk plumage um throughout the stories you will hear that the
00:28:05.560cape of hawk plumage that um frig has whereas frey freya is often spoken of as a falcon plumage
00:28:16.440and um i know that a lot of people associate the heron with frig but also to the hawk is
00:28:25.560for obvious reasons um but it goes through as we are going through some of the our senior and the
00:28:33.560aus vineyard and again it is brief particularly because um the lore is
00:28:44.440it's scant uh there's so much lore on lord thor that following him makes everything look even
00:28:53.08028. Kennings for Freyja. How should one paraphrase Freyja? Thus, by calling her the daughter of Njörðr,
00:29:08.580sister of Freyr, wife of Odr, mother of Nos,0.96
00:29:16.600possessor of the slain, of Sesramnir, of the Gibcats,0.97
00:29:23.880and of the Brzingamen, goddess of the Vanir,
00:29:29.440lady of the Vanir, goddess beautiful in tears,
00:29:34.360goddess of love all the goddesses may be paraphrased as thus by calling them
00:29:41.200by the name of another and naming them in terms of their possessions or their works or their
00:29:48.840kindred again the instruction manual for the poet but it can also be the instruction manual
00:29:55.780of a pious ausitruer attempting to construct their own personal prayers, which is a common
00:30:06.080practice at home is to list and place names, kind of flexing your knowledge in an act of giving,
00:30:19.480an act of piety to the gods. 29. The Kennings of Sif. How should Sif be paraphrased? By calling her
00:30:33.340the wife of Thor, mother of Ullr, fair-haired goddess, co-wife,
00:30:41.420the, you know, again, sharing of, of motherhood with Thor's offsprings, uh, co-wife of Ijarnsaxa,
00:30:52.040mother of Thrudr. Um, and I know a lot of people say Jarnsaxa, Ijarnsaxa, iron knife, um,
00:31:03.940is a, uh, a Jotun, um, and again, she, there, you know, debate on, on, um, if she is an
00:31:16.920Austvinir, uh, there's, there's an interesting kind of, uh, gray zone there, if you will.
00:31:24.420Um, Kennings for Idun. How should Idun be paraphrased?
00:34:23.680I think that we are used to, we're used to religions with named prophets or with stories of, you know, revealed tablets or things like that.
00:34:40.700And that's not really the case in our law.
00:34:42.940And I don't think that's the case in most indigenous, like, ethnic faiths.
00:34:50.800i think with the uh the big abrahamic faiths are special in that regard uh our lore again developed
00:35:03.600over a broad and long stretch of eons stretch of relationship and time and
00:35:12.880getting to know each other process so the story of our folk and something that uh folk builder
00:35:25.160chris savage and i have been really working to convey over our history episodes the story of
00:35:33.020Asatru is the story of the relationship between the Isir and the Aryan people since the start
00:43:24.860um others describe it far too dry and too clinically in a way that almost robs it of its
00:43:36.700profundity and then there's everyone in between struggling the best they know how to express
00:43:45.580how the divine inspires them or does things i'll share something one of the ways that um
00:43:52.620i see her communicate to me uh with that inspiration and it relates to the rune uh kenaz
00:44:04.060i have long i don't know fought for understanding of that room um when i first got involved in in
00:44:15.260Alcetru. What is Kenaz? Kenaz means torch. It means torch. It always means torch. It should
00:44:26.480mean torch. Torch all day long. But there's this obscure, yeah, but it also kind of means
00:44:32.840like festering sore. That's gross. Torch is cooler. Let's go with torch. And I think that's
00:44:39.960a lot of people were linguistically there's very very very little that equates it to the torch
00:44:48.200there is very much that equates it to um a festering a burning ulcer uh an ulcerated sore
00:44:59.240but that just sounds gross and it also isn't what you want to hear necessarily and
00:45:10.100but especially when I started really thinking on the ulcer
00:45:16.120it absolutely and it has always meant inspiration the idea of a torch leading you forward for
00:45:25.860inspiration makes a lot of sense and is a beautiful picture but i think on a very visceral level
00:45:34.580the literal fire in the belly an internal burning that if not treated burns a hole in your gut
00:45:45.220I think that encapsulates the way that I experience divine inspiration
00:45:55.920in a very visceral and spot-on way. There are some times that I get overwhelmed with a
00:46:08.120burning need to do something, to express something, to make something happen.
00:46:18.340For the Isir, for the folk, for the AFA, I will get something that sticks with me and1.00
00:46:25.080is relentless and will not let me sleep and will not let me have peace and burns and eats0.97
00:46:31.280at me until I put something into motion to move closer towards it or to move us closer
00:46:37.620towards it i believe with all my soul that that is the icer giving me a directive and it's taught
00:46:48.100me a very i don't know very important lesson on kenaz that i've has really shaped my understanding
00:46:56.580of that mystery um but yeah why don't gods just show up and do the things and tell us what they
00:47:04.100want i wish they did it doesn't work that way i think it is probably a very difficult and big deal
00:47:13.540to alter the norms of reality in such a way for that to happen that it's very special when it does
00:47:22.180happen to whatever whatever breaks through to communicate that is very special we need to
00:47:31.540treasure those things. And I think it is absolutely possible for the gods to appear before you and
00:47:38.520tell you a thing. But I think that is exceedingly in the course of our history. I think if you
00:47:47.520listen, though, all of us can receive understanding from the gods. And I think it comes to us in all
00:47:56.660the ways you mentioned and probably many ways that we may not be fully aware of or may not be
00:48:02.220looking out for. Svon, you were about to tell us something deep and weighty and your internet
00:48:09.680service conspired against you. So floor is yours. Yeah, it has been very spotty all day, actually
00:48:17.420for the week, because I think my proximity to a military base is making things that they're doing
00:48:25.120things around the base so whenever that happens my connections get all kinds of crazy um
00:48:33.600so everything that i was here just said is the most viable and on the razor edge of our faith
00:48:45.520uh people don't think of it this way but yet they do well or and will say our faith is a living
00:48:53.440faith that's where the living happens is in these points of inspiration and movement and then there
00:49:00.080is the relationship that has been established in the in the lineage and the sacred initiation that
00:49:07.440comes from being the else here go the and then from founder mcnalen as it that those all have factors
00:49:16.560I think what I was going to be leaning towards was one more consideration I think that a lot of people are looking for, and that's because they're coming from Christianity.
00:49:29.020And so I was going, I point to the paper, to the book, but remember what I'm stating is I think far more open to interpretation than the living.
00:49:43.320And that is a hard thing for people to try to wrap their heads around. They immediately want to go to the verse, to the poem, to the stanza, to the scripture. And that is a conditioning of a man-made religion, which is built around scribes in the Middle East writing things down.
00:50:02.000so one of the things is that mythos speaks in symbolic language it's the painting
00:50:11.120of a picture through words and one of the things that i think brings this up is when
00:50:19.580there is the question of uh omnipotence omnipotence then beckons the question of
00:50:28.700Well, if this God is omnipotent, why are these things happening? Why is the communication not there? But I think if we stop and think about it, we come from the point that the gods and the divine are not this catch all.
00:50:49.960oh there's just one person in the back um who created everything and let's not discuss about
00:50:57.800good and evil and whether he created it or hangs out with it or whatever book of joe um however it
00:51:04.360might be so our faith and theological point from the lore already states up front that our gods
00:51:14.600gods are part of this universe, this grand ecosystem, and that they are committed to
00:51:24.720certain rules, if you will. Now, a lot of people will say, well, gods aren't, you shouldn't have
00:51:31.240rules. And it's like, again, if you're coming from the Christian perspective, and this is late
00:51:36.480Christianity, early Christianity didn't have these and Judaism, there were places where Yahweh could
00:51:43.960not traverse uh the the people of the iron wheel and going up north he had no power there um so
00:51:52.360that's a interesting discussion to get into about um uh omnipotence and omnipresence but our gods
00:51:59.560have stated up front that everything that they are doing the cultivation of the pure souls the the
00:52:06.120attainment into heaven not being fully accessed by everyone is because this bolstering helps them
00:52:12.840stand against the forces of chaos at the end and if the prophecy is correct there will be this
00:52:19.960falling of both sides so the gods will fall did i lose you
00:52:35.480it's fine you're cutting out pretty good you have to go back about 30 seconds okay um
00:52:44.620so if you have this concept of omnipotence and omnipresence from christianity it will be very
00:52:53.000hard for you to uh lay that down and understand that the divine does have if it is to have
00:53:02.940influence has rules. Now, the rules are unknown to us, and we are always on the side of we cannot
00:53:11.820presume that the gods can't do anything. Ashergothi has told me hundreds of times, and
00:53:19.580it's bright wisdom is at least the gods can do what we do. And that beckons us to look upwards
00:53:59.180and traveling its roots is a big deal so with that there is rules but again uh omnipotence
00:54:10.720destroys all rationale and understanding of things it's just completely irrational to the
00:54:17.580point where it's like you kind of have to throw up your hands the gods have rules they don't go
00:54:25.360down uh into the underworlds lord odin goes there and that's a great feat they don't go down there
00:54:32.180to judge the souls and weigh it against a feather or have a philkia lawyer or whatever it might be
00:54:38.840there's these measurements lord thor is connected to the middle world the material so there is great
00:54:47.340power and that is why he is the friend of the folk he's he's the god he's the god of men um
00:54:53.980but the the gods moving in between the world through the lore is generally seen as there's
00:55:03.200this again great um cost perhaps i don't know if the gods are moving into our world
00:55:11.640there may be a cost that we don't know or an effort that we don't understand but either way
00:55:17.680the interactions seem to be that the predominance is over the wellspring in heaven which is why
00:55:27.080it's very important because I have heard other groups in particularly the Norena society trying0.95
00:55:34.400to move the wellsprings into the underworld and this abolishes much of the Aryan mythos established
00:55:41.280and established by other Aryan groups.0.80
00:55:46.620With the well in heaven, the gods gather to counsel around the wellspring.
00:55:53.840And from that place is the Nornir.0.97
00:55:57.900The Nornir are placing out the fates of men, and their judgment is there.0.86
00:56:03.800Now, we could argue back and forth, but the very living religion,0.89
00:56:08.240And we speak about our folks saying that the gods want to, we want the gods to witness us here, now, witness my deeds, we are our deeds, and so on and so forth.
00:56:20.960So our belief stems that the gods are able to see us now.
00:56:27.340It's not omnipresence, it's beyond presence.
00:56:36.240It's not singular presence, but multiple avenues to see into a place or a, a, uh, the area that we exist, the material world, um, through the wellspring, through or law and the ripples there that are made at the judgment seats.
00:56:58.040is one of the primary points that I always point to for the lore for folk who are asking questions
00:57:06.160about the gods and their interactions. Not all of the gods gather at the wellspring, and that's why
00:57:14.880we lean into the gill beginning as it is very clear as to where the wellspring is and who gathers
00:57:22.000there and why those gods are good for the folk to pray to because of this intimate relationship
00:57:30.520of all of these elements that's not just openly spoken of. So when you look at these relationships
00:57:38.500in the Lord, you know, the building of that theological framework comes from looking at
00:57:44.720all of those in relation to each other. So we have the gods interacting with Midgard through
00:57:52.880Orla, through the well of earth, through the fates of men that are determined by the Nornir.0.96
00:58:00.080And these judgment seats are set in relation to their own fate and the fate of all the cosmos.0.94
00:58:08.500um so when the gods do inspire and ignite because of these relationships i often feel that it's
00:58:20.500moving through orlaw or through weird through the giant or higher excuse me giant's not a good word
00:58:27.300the the higher perspective the grand perspective that the gods have and that's what makes them
00:58:35.360gods um on the the other part of this is in the lore there is referencing specifically to the
00:58:44.480origin of the lore and it's again not explicitly said but after the war there is a being who is
00:58:54.720created by the gods and his name is kvasir and it explicitly says he walks amongst the folk
00:59:03.040settles their disagreements and teaches them knowledge so i have always taken that as the first
00:59:11.680time that all of the lore all of the secrets that are in the lore are from kvasir from this moment
00:59:22.160and that he is the one who ignites the mythos in the people and then as it lives it grows
00:59:31.600and it's all understood that that growth by the gods will happen it's it's not that they're again
00:59:38.320if they don't it seems especially in just the short window that i have seen there are things
00:59:44.960that come up and then fall and those are not blessed by the gods so there's this free will
00:59:52.560and inclination and there is their influence into earth and it falls away and then there is
01:00:02.560the the destiny of which is compiled of all of that will being brought in um
01:00:10.400so classier is what i would point to in the lore and uh especially because he's the first storyteller
01:00:19.280in my uh interpretations um i've always spoken of him as being the first storyteller uh that
01:00:28.240his wisdom settled grievances between the folk and that if we are to read the lore and look at
01:00:36.880say the horses of the sun and of uh the earth and of the moon and that patterning and read into it
01:00:46.560and suddenly realized this greatly reflects scientific understanding in the modern age
01:00:54.180it's because that was intended that the gods knew where we would go and that they had layered the
01:01:02.380truth the perennial truth of mythos in the stories that came from cluster's mouth since he was made
01:01:09.680up of the gods after their union so that would be me pointing again at the lore but that doesn't
01:01:16.480take away from the living religion the organic growth and relationship that the outsider go the
01:01:24.640each of our uh members and their total relationship together interacting and creating this um
01:01:32.880movement forward. It's like being on a boat. The wave may have come from long before and will flow
01:01:43.120past, but the directionality and even the individual experience of everyone on the boat
01:01:49.140might be slightly different, but yet still there is one who's holding the rudder and steering and
01:01:56.380making sure in the so it's like a kind of perspectives on top of perspectives um i mean
01:02:03.980it's a great question i think that um it's just very hard to quantify all at once and again
01:02:14.700i'm i'm bringing up the point of the lore because i'm not trying to say in some grand and eloquent
01:02:20.380way of and speaking falsehoods what i am saying is the lore says this we very rarely ever look at it
01:02:28.860this way and um i think that the the the mapping of the mythos is there um and we um we have it
01:02:45.260It's just that we're not looking at it in that correct perspective, perhaps because of older things like Christianity and concepts of omnipotence, omnipresence, etc.
01:02:56.080Um, when we, when we go from, uh, taking that down and looking at the polytheistic worldview, that's when we begin to understand there are multiple ways in which the gods interact with us.
01:03:17.860and if we ask ourselves well why did they allow this to happen the truest answer i can give you
01:03:25.300is the perspective is different we oftentimes don't understand why the gods are doing what
01:13:42.220After the hawk-shaped Loki, swiftly the gods have kindled a fire, and the sovereign rulers sustained the flame with shakens. Scorched was the flaming giant. He plunged down and made soaring.
01:13:57.080"'Tis pictured on the giant's soul-bridge, the shield which, painted with stories, Thorliefer gave me."
01:14:07.960This is the correct manner of paraphrasing the eister, to call each of them by the name of another and to designate him in terms of his works or his possessions or his kindred.
01:14:20.920sorry i gotta switch back and forth spawn has returned to us
01:14:30.000um we appreciate him for the time that we have him
01:14:35.700do we have any questions since then we do not spawn would you like to teach them
01:24:52.700So there was a lot of lore spoken of the heavens, especially the kennings like the moon way and the way of the sun and the moon.
01:25:03.280So a lot of these will give, and I'll try to go into them as swiftly as possible just because how inconsistent my internet's being right now.
01:25:12.500How should we paraphrase the earth? Thus by calling her the flesh of Ymir and the mother of Thor.
01:25:22.700Daughter of Onar, Odin's bride, co-wife of Frigg and Rindr and Gunlov, mother-in-law of Sif.
01:25:37.980floor and bottom of the storm hall which is uh the middle world and technically the the sky
01:25:50.340it is the floor and bottom of the storm hall so they gave you another um kenning of of the heavens
01:25:57.400there the sea of beasts daughter of not uh night sister of other and of day even as ivan did scald
01:26:11.640despoiler sang so destroyer of of other poets um ivan did now the beaming gold is hidden
01:26:21.320in the body of the mother of the giant's foe the councils of a kindred strong and mighty
01:26:29.000the the uh origins of lord thor from the earth lineage uh as saying half raider troubles
01:26:40.100troublous scald in council it was determined that the king's friend wise in council should
01:26:49.280wed the land sole daughter of onir greenly wooded now there is a direct reference to the king and
01:26:57.360the land being one that in that poem it's it's not referring uh to the goddess specifically it is
01:27:07.200stating that the king and the land are one um and he said further the ravens abode brave
01:27:18.880ruler, got the broad-faced bride of Odin, the land, with kingly counsels of weapons lured unto
01:27:28.960him. This is a point in which I bring up about Lord Thor being a product of the peace between
01:27:38.840the cosmic gods and the gods of natural law in specifics this um stanza because his by his
01:27:50.180joining with the earth the war is brought to an end as kinship is now made between them
01:27:59.260and this is the the the councils of war if you will the strategy of ending the war and thus
01:28:06.740creating the perfect union between the Vanir and the Aesir, and that being Lord Thor.
01:28:15.540Even as Theodorfer sang, the ruler, glad and warriors, in the road hall doth fasten the ships
01:28:29.180of men to stand to strands and at the head of the sea keels ridden so there the the strands end is
01:28:41.100the beach end uh the place where the water is take or is taken over by the land is kind of how that's
01:28:48.140ruffles so uh the sea kill star the strands end is the earth as half rather sang full loathe to
01:28:59.740let the land slip i hold the lordly spear prince author sister is subjected to the splendid
01:29:08.060treasure spender this is another reference directly saying the treasure spender is the king
01:29:14.460and that the dispenser of treasure and that the land is subjected to his rule is what that's being
01:29:22.900said in that um verse thus sang theodolfer far off the dark slow sluggard stood when the sword
01:29:35.040inciter in ancient days took to him the unripe co-wife of rinder
01:29:43.600directly referencing to the earth the austrian yard the mother of thor
01:29:51.760uh the the reference to the slow dark slowed sluggard stood though i i believe that is a
01:29:57.920another human in the poem that is being berated um yes so like a foul king took the land
01:30:10.400um do you want me to press on it's like it's like a poetry reading roulette i do while we have you
01:30:17.840but not really because we have a question okay um so not a monogamous all-father are we to take
01:30:25.360anything from the relationships between the gods does this impact and also true stance on monogamy
01:30:32.160um so yeah i want to say a couple of things on that
01:30:44.080the lord teaches us by things we're familiar with and it paints pictures using similes
01:30:54.560to our mortal understanding of how the world works
01:31:01.280these are all divine truths don't get me wrong but it's taught to us in
01:31:08.960um poetic language so that we understand it and i think that first should it affect the
01:31:16.800our true stance on monogamy no not at all um i don't think that that's never presented
01:31:25.760monogamy was a noted hallmark of our folk in tacitus time in a variety of different periods
01:31:34.960of our history monogamy is typically the rule very rarely it is mentioned that
01:31:44.320you know kings or great chieftains will have um multiple wives or a wife and like multiple consorts
01:31:57.200usually to secure political alliances which makes a lot of sense and kind of makes sense
01:32:04.000in this context as well if we want to extend the metaphor that far so people get really caught up
01:32:11.600they think that the eddas are meant as like morality plays to get us to emulate the gods
01:32:20.640not that there's not elements of that you can take in certain situations you can but it's not about
01:32:26.720instructing us on what to emulate it's about instructing us on who the gods are and how they
01:32:34.640interface with the bigger realities that we are faced with and how they interface with us so we
01:32:42.640can understand them better um these different primal forces that odin is consuming children with
01:32:53.920there's a lot more there than him oh this giantess looks pretty and then some kind of carnal um
01:34:00.160fleshy organs interacting with one another in fluid exchange that's not how that works
01:34:10.560it's divine forces combining to create divinity beyond our comprehension and i think that extends
01:34:19.880the metaphor too hard so no i don't think it affects our stance on monogamy at all
01:34:25.600I would say this, you know, there's a variety of things throughout time, and I don't want to become overly prudish on these things, but that was never the way that was common or natural to our folk.
01:34:43.320that wasn't the understanding of union between men and women and whatever the variety of circumstance
01:34:52.120of sexual liaisons or whatever the sanctity of having a wife and having a marriage relationship
01:35:02.280was always very important and notably so certainly in antiquity tacitus was very impressed by that
01:35:10.680as were other writers as they interacted with with our folk doing this in a germanic lens
01:35:19.000so no i don't think that really alters things but i do think
01:35:24.360i know that some people get in their mind that it is instructive we're supposed to emulate the gods
01:35:30.920that's the case we're supposed to learn from the gods we're supposed to learn lessons that they
01:35:35.800impart to us but we're not gods we're not shaping divinity from primal forces and primal
01:35:49.400no we're people and we have relationships with other people here in the world around us and
01:35:55.880conforming and not being odious to the society that we live in and i think that's very important
01:36:01.960to uh be aware of and keep in mind um respond you have any more to add on that particular thing
01:36:09.320yeah i think it's directionality uh abrahamic faiths uh make a great attempt at both uh
01:36:17.320humanizing the god of the judeans and making mankind godly um
01:36:24.600or at least for one. And then the understanding that all, pretty much every Aryan polytheistic0.85
01:36:35.020branch is that the gods, the directionality is that they are the gods of the cosmos and we
01:36:42.360make them and frame them in ways like us to understand them. Or better yet, when the stories
01:36:50.740were given to us they were framed in a way that we could understand but that directionality is
01:36:58.740really important if we wanted to look at it at face value we could say okay he's not monogamous
01:37:06.580but he's also not a singular male being making things making creation all by himself which we know
01:37:14.500doesn't work but what does it represent is that I think our ancestors knew that when Lord Odin
01:37:24.460copulated with the earth it wasn't a woman and it wasn't in a physical fashion this is
01:37:30.040the god of the sky copulating with the earth to end the great war between them that isn't
01:37:40.000actually a war with bows and arrows or clubs and spears or even uh howitzers and tanks now um
01:37:49.760our ancestors understood that this was grander but it was placed in that context to speak and to cut
01:37:58.560through a lot of the din of the hyper theoretical theological so i think that's one of the most
01:38:09.200important things is that lord odin is unionizing with other great dominioned forces of non-biological
01:38:19.280willful being beings and it gets very mouthy if we have to constantly uh kind of frame all of that
01:38:26.720that produces forward more elements in the universe instead of just simply uh he uh willed it
01:38:37.760um don't get me wrong here uh odin is a god of passion and emotions and ecstasy and i don't
01:38:47.620i don't want to overly sanitize it as if there weren't a sexual component to it
01:38:53.900but i think that's understood very different in terms of a king's
01:39:01.920court and that kind of a political alliance marriage situation than it is viking dude down
01:39:11.220the road that's got like three wives that's just not how that worked that wasn't a social norm
01:39:17.040in that day and age you know depending upon where and again we talked earlier in the show about the
01:39:25.360long stretch of time these uh stories were made over that would be very uncommon in a um northern
01:39:34.000european uh early medieval court but in a migration age court like you know attila the hun had
01:39:42.160some huge number of wives because he would take a wife from every tribe that he would conquer as a
01:39:47.600political alliance to secure their fidelity so it's it's real different in that sense and again
01:39:54.240this isn't you know some kind of advice and have them all like you should go out and get a bunch of
01:40:00.560women it's not that this is clearly written for you to understand
01:40:09.680um alliances doesn't quite say it the uh the melding of primal forces to produce
01:40:17.440new gods. And that's kind of something amazing to wonder at, just in general, is the idea of
01:40:27.760primal gods and elemental giants combining to create new gods. It in and of itself is
01:40:38.900mind-blowing to us. Something else to kind of just think about as we
01:40:43.900as we contemplate some of these things these are true they are divinely true they tell us
01:40:53.400truths they all convey truth but they paint it with a viking coat of paint
01:40:59.280because they were conceived of or standardized in the viking age
01:41:05.320thousand years earlier they would have been in a um more migration period coat of paint
01:41:14.780before that in a more step warrior coated understanding of what's what and how things
01:41:24.160work the reality of it these aren't big vikings in wooden halls you know eating the flesh of of pigs
01:41:39.600but this gives us an understanding of the feel or the the vibe as the kids would say
01:41:46.320um so we do a disservice when we try to
01:41:55.120overly become myopic on the imagery instead of the bigger meaning it's easy to get distracted
01:42:02.160that way when we're in a society that like no these are the words of allah or you get
01:42:08.720no these are the exact words of your way or else we'll burn you at the stake that's what
01:42:16.160our society has been marinating in for a very long time so we all have to you know challenge
01:42:26.240ourselves to go beyond that to look for the the deeper things this teaches us about the gods
01:42:33.280but that said spawn while we while we have you uh if you would go into number 33
01:42:42.560kennings for the sea all right kennings for the sea how should one paraphrase the sea
01:42:53.000thus by calling it emir's blood visitor of the gods and and i looked at this this is um
01:43:02.400the visitation of the gods the gods go to the ocean um so i think that's an interesting
01:43:09.820kind of misnomer the way they translated that husband of raun father of ayer's daughters
01:43:18.780so we are speaking directly of ayer and it blows a lot of people away because again they're coming
01:43:25.980from abrahamic faith where um the gods are humanized and they're literal um and the titles
01:43:34.380don't mean anything and then they'll oh who is the god of this who is the god of that who is
01:43:39.260the god of this oh i thought nyorder was the god of the ocean it's like the primordial forces that
01:43:48.300the gods have dominion over it is the direct link between the folk and the water and the
01:43:57.740i'd like to point out a distinction too that i had apologize i interrupted you there i didn't need to
01:44:02.780One of the things that is, there is very often a God with dominion over controlled, beneficial elements of nature and a Jotun in charge of or with dominion over the wild and dangerous type of nature.
01:44:32.780like there's the woods in the sense of your hunting preserve or your sacred grove and
01:44:41.980there's the scary deep dark woods where trolls and wolves and bears and you know go back far
01:44:52.860enough cave bears and crazy stuff lives that's dangerous to you there's the rolling hillside
01:45:00.620and then there's the cold uh treacherous mountains there's pleasant winds and then there's the storm
01:45:11.180um there's you know the pleasant coastal waters and rivers and good fishing grounds that are well
01:45:19.260known to you and then there's the deep terrifying ocean where monsters and death lives
01:45:25.900yeah if i uh you know i was explaining this um at thorshoff just recently where uh lord north
01:45:37.740is and has always been a god of prosperity and the river is a prime uh threshold of that
01:45:48.540prosperity same with the estuaries same with the beaches same with all of that that represents but
01:45:54.380But yet also his son is the proliferator of the herd of the wild and of all things that any culture that's built around animal husbandry, that is a huge form of prosperity.
01:46:11.800And then his daughter is that of beauty and is often associated with the gold, with gems, and with all things that are constructed or made with that inspiration and that divine connectivity.
01:46:28.800And it brings in a prosperity, oftentimes hard to quantify, but that art, that beauty, that possession emulates from her.
01:46:38.800So there's this kind of even more condensing of prosperity as things go.
01:46:46.000But when you go out into the middle where there is no prosperity, where there is a variable food desert in the ocean and if the whims are there, the gods are not intimately connected to it because the folk are not in that sphere as well.
01:47:06.920And the gods then have a whole story about them bringing a kettle to contain that primordial place and bring it under their dominion in the story of the cauldron that they bring to Eir, and then they go to his hall.
01:47:24.180Um, so that, that symbolic, uh, stories, the stories and the titlings are all so very, very important to seeing how the gods are, um, exuding their dominion in areas, uh, particularly with the intention of helping the folk.
01:47:44.180And then where the folk are not, there is this Jotun who is brought under dominion and brought into oath with the gods, not as out of fun or loyalty, but out of a kind of obligational relationship.
01:48:04.260And then the gods go there. And that is their dominion coming into the primordial blood of Ymir and making sure that they have their presence there. And again, it's not a literal feast and it's not a literal diving bell or something of that nature.0.82
01:48:22.300it is clearly that all of these motions in the stories have a great point when you kind of look
01:48:29.940at their interconnectivity. The blood is Ymir's blood. And we see it in the physical world.
01:48:35.400There are things in the ocean that are of times long before the gods shaped the world. And you
01:48:43.640can see that. And so their dominion there is about more or less keeping that in check, not
01:48:51.940replacing it, if you will, again. And I think that's deeply connected because the gods do have
01:48:58.880a vested interest in our soul, in our being, in that which we create. So it goes into some very
01:49:10.040interesting things and i just wanted to preface it before i went into it is is um the uh the usage
01:49:17.800of the nine three six and nine in all aryan branches in relation to the daughters of water
01:49:25.960there's a mention of neither having nine daughters or the nine udines of the rhine and then there are
01:49:32.680the nine daughters of the deep waters that are going to be mentioned um really cool stuff but
01:49:39.240again it's it's the nine waves and that water having nine is very very significant but does
01:49:49.240not mean that the nine daughters of my order and the nine daughters of ayer and the nine mothers
01:49:55.080of heim dollar are all the same it is the number nine or the nine waves is what significant is
01:50:03.160significant of their presence as being spirits of water whether they are the primordial from
01:50:12.440emir or whether they are connected to the dominion of the gods is more important
01:50:17.800especially in our relationship to them so uh he is the husband of raun the father of
01:50:27.240ayer's daughters of them who are called hymning leather duva blow the haada uh hevring a blood in
01:50:38.280the blood in the hair hevring either not the same but of the nornir but again i believe this is
01:50:48.360poetically referencing to the ancientness of the ocean from emir's blood is kind of that origin
01:50:56.280point of the the material world chron uh bilja bauda um again that one's significant to me um
01:51:09.400family member named that and it means the crashing loud waves um it is the land of round
01:51:18.120and of ayers daughters of ships and of ships names of the of the keel of the beaks of the
01:51:25.800planks of the seams so this part here is simply stating land of the keel land of the the beaks
01:51:34.760is the prow of the ship land of the planks so stating over and over and over again that the
01:54:31.380Thus, by calling it Ymir's blood, visitor of the gods, husband of Raun, father of Ayadr's daughters, of them who are called Heminglaiva, Dufa, Bludagara.
01:54:54.000Heffering, Utter, Hron, Biljah, Baurah, Kolga, land of Raun and of Ayur's daughters, of ships and of ships' names, of keel, of beaks, of planks and stems, of fishes, of ice, way and road of sea kings.
01:55:24.000likewise in circular of islands house of sands and of kelp and of roofs land of fishing gear
01:55:33.760of sea fowls and of fair wind even as ormer bodies scald and sang on the gravely beach
01:55:45.040oh sorry my little scrolling wheel locked up
01:55:49.040On gravelly beach of good ships grates the blood of Ymir, as Reffer sang, the mild deer of the masthead beareth, or the murky water from the westward, her wave-pressed boughs, the land I look for before the beak, the whale home swallows,
02:03:31.820And I want to be very careful because like any other technological tool,
02:03:38.920there are advantages and there are disadvantages, but one thing is true
02:03:45.800in the course of history and you know, our people have always been
02:03:53.340at the forefront of technology very nature of our folk as the creative folk we are the the
02:04:02.540the folk on this this earth who innovate who create and who seek new horizons who
02:04:11.340dream new things and implement new tools to achieve those things um
02:04:16.860We could debate whether it's a good idea or not a good idea, but if it exists, it's here, it is moving, and once the genie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back in.
02:11:22.860Svahn, what are your thoughts on that?
02:11:28.820Yeah, this is an interesting question because it's going into territory
02:11:33.920that's not so cleanly written out, but I've had some musings and thoughts on this.
02:11:41.920One is, I think the reason why AI is scary to people
02:11:49.200is because it sits in two camps at the same time what i mean by this is this is very similar to0.72
02:11:58.080when flight was made possible uh when the wright brothers figured out the way to make flight
02:12:07.040accessible but it wasn't accessible to everyone the sky wasn't immediately filled with their
02:12:11.760airplanes uh the production there was uh cordoned by people who could produce it and then if you
02:12:19.280look at air flight whether you're the negative being war or um the ability to you know distance
02:12:27.920oneself from war while in war or uh traveling the positive side being traveling and interconnectivity
02:12:36.000allowing people to move about um in such a rapid pace that no one ever thought of
02:12:43.440so there's good and bad that produces from all of these plastics is another one plastics changed
02:12:50.800everything on the bad the pollution on the good medicine and the ability to heal people
02:12:58.160um specifically connected to plastics has um been so significant that you you know to deny the
02:13:08.460positives is just a uh an eschewed view ai fits in this same point but the access to it by
02:13:20.200anyone is I think one of the scarier points of it and yet it is not accessible to everyone when
02:13:29.540it comes to creating the engine and so that too is also scary so I think a lot of the trepidation
02:13:36.660that comes around this tool is that in one hand it's available to anyone for their whims and
02:13:44.040desires to create, to kind of bulldoze over people who are creating with music and art and things
02:13:51.520like, and now anyone can do it. And then on the other hand, you have these tech giants that are
02:13:56.400able to create because they have all of this money. Google was able to create the search engine
02:14:01.420because it's Google and the billion dollar corporation or what have you. And so when
02:14:08.720people look at these too they see very negative points on both sides of it and there's no
02:14:16.320temperance like with the airplane and with plastic um however we should look at some of the positives
02:14:25.360because it is very easy for us in this day and age to look at the negatives information
02:14:31.760the ability to access it as you had mentioned i was here go with the languages and translational
02:14:37.280languages. So now communication is opening up to where you can see something and immediately
02:14:42.980translate it or have it translated, I mean, for you. And I think that has a huge benefit.
02:14:49.480The other thing is, I think that there's an unseen benefit, much like how
02:14:54.360when you think of markets and money, money sometimes when it becomes
02:15:02.720relative, subjective, some would argue worthless in relation that it can be printed on demand
02:15:10.060and so on and so forth. There is an appreciation, I think, achieved in trading and creating things
02:15:19.120and then moving them about. I think like this, there is going to be a heavy emphasis on,
02:15:28.000Oh, no, this was made by people. And that might actually make its value more intrinsic. And I think because so many people can create whatever they wish, as it goes, the stuff that is actually created by people is going to be held in higher value.
02:15:47.640and that's just me being positive i could say oh no it's just gonna overwash everyone and we won't
02:15:55.540even be able to tell but we adapt and i think you know talking to my kids and oh no that's ai this
02:16:03.600is ai they know when it is and when it isn't far better than even me and that's me kind of like
02:16:09.440slipping on the am i am i the boomer now um but we adapt and i think that there is positive and
02:16:19.440negatives with everything trying to find those silver linings i remember during covet and we
02:16:24.800were talking about the lockdowns and everything so on and so forth but yet it was the first time
02:16:29.040i'd ever been to a park and i saw whole families together um spending time together and seeing that
02:16:36.560knowing yes there is the negative but there are positives that could be had and where is
02:16:41.520the dividing line i think it is in the pursuance of being noble which is our faith our faith is
02:16:51.760to pursue nobility and as we move forward with this new tool we should consistently ask ourselves
02:17:00.560is this noble and i think that's why your nuanced difference between say art and stock image for
02:17:09.920things to utilize it doesn't uh take away from the art it makes it i think more important but
02:17:21.120we have to consistently water those roots and ensure that we are attempting to move forward
02:17:28.000with nobility now when we talk about the the third or say the elephant in the room because i
02:17:33.200was talking about one way or the other um is that what if ai and sentience and um the threat of ai
02:17:40.960and you've got all of these people in technology saying oh you know i quit and um it's a it's a
02:17:47.520countdown and all of these things uh this i think is the relationship between humanity
02:17:56.080and that which we have created and we oftentimes like many people just automatically hate the
02:18:02.960country they're in because they've been propagandized to believe that i think very much
02:18:08.480so the negative side is we automatically think that humanity is going to lose and that humanity
02:18:14.960is not good and will be um hurt or usurped or what whatever that might be because we are so
02:18:24.720oftentimes beaten down by all of the propaganda that we forget that the the capabilities of what
02:18:31.440humanity can do and i choose to believe that in this interaction in this relationship um
02:18:41.200humanity is capable of dealing with uh any of those kind of very horizontal dangers um
02:18:52.800simply as i because we have proven it time and time again of our capability to do so and again
02:19:00.240one of the i think the most noble things is to never let the light dim out so i refuse to believe
02:19:06.000that humanity is just completely lost completely dead and that ai is is going to get over one on us
02:19:16.000no despite any sense of doom the gods know there is the glimmer of there is the hope there is the
02:19:25.040skein of light and i feel that that should be applied to most everything including this situation
02:19:32.640but it is uh an interesting thing i think that everyone should ruminate on it but i encourage
02:19:37.920everyone to always look at the negative the positive and then always strive forward upward
02:19:43.600and build towards the noble usage of whatever tools are in our hands
02:23:26.700there is something so ingrained in us,
02:23:31.700Ingrained in us so much so that I believe Christianity that, you know, fomented itself in Europe picked up a lot of these things, made the last supper, which was Passover.0.75
02:23:44.840That's what the rabbi Yeshua was celebrating. They turned it into the bloat. They turned it into the communion because it was so deeply ingrained in the European soul as building relationship that that's why they focused in on Passover, made it the Last Supper, made it about the Eucharist,0.96
02:24:10.760made it about blood and and bread and or the flesh and and and the wine um and what have you
02:24:17.060that exchange is so innately deep in our folk that when they come to Ausatru and we do it and
02:24:25.300they might not know all the minutia of a bloat they might not fully understand all the things
02:24:29.940even being said by the Gothar they do know that once they sup from the mead that is given to them
02:24:37.600by the gods it is a gift it is an exchange it is um they have given up and then they uh receive
02:24:46.800and then the hopes that they're worthy of it and and when they are uh besprinkled by the mead or
02:24:53.840they're anointed by the mead and then they go forth from there carrying that with them it refocuses
02:25:00.320them it re-hones them so coming out of that exchange is this developmental state of mind
02:25:08.400and that all doesn't just come about from smoke and mirrors and and uh you know all these different
02:25:16.240kind of moving parts and flash and and what have you no that's that is primal in our blood as to
02:25:24.080why we feel it is a true exchange between the divine and the mortal and why it's important so bloat
02:25:36.240all right swan how has learning germanic languages deepened your religious faith
02:25:44.880oh um so i think it would start out with the fact that english was not my first language
02:25:52.320and i began to study english and i i loved it i loved its creation and and then of course its
02:26:00.640history it was actually the anglo-saxon uh futhor used by jrl tolkien when i was very young kind of
02:26:11.520sneaking into my dad's uh well he didn't have a library but he had shelves um and i would sneak
02:26:19.200his books and and read them and see the pictures and see the runes and they they drew me in um and
02:26:27.600then it it really made me understand the interconnectivity and i was aghast when uh there
02:26:35.360were um scholars saying oh you know uh woden of the anglo-saxons is different than oh then those
02:26:42.320are two separate gods and i it was like getting smacked in the face the the ludicrous nature of
02:26:48.800it because the language is so intertwined i was watching one of the shorts um from
02:26:55.840uh our church on youtube and we were talking uh you were talking about the scandinavians and how
02:27:02.320they kind of view outside through a strictly scandinavian thing and um somebody commented
02:27:09.120um tuesday wednesday thursday and i was like yes that's so true is is tuesday wednesday thursday
02:27:17.360is that interconnectedness that right out the gate shows it's not strictly scandinavian
02:27:24.000that our languages are so deeply intertwined our genetics are so deeply intertwined um you had said
02:27:30.880in that video that we are distant from our ancestors as much as they are through the
02:27:37.360generations that there's not like they're closer somehow genetically than us is is that these
02:27:44.960generations being born and we are so interconnected but language is the tangible point and um
02:27:54.720our ancestors holding an oral tradition built many positive things with the oral tradition
02:28:02.240but the negative i think is that um we were far too late to place things down
02:28:09.280the lack of paper uh the lack of the technology at the time but we eventually excelled in that
02:28:17.500but by that time you know we're printing uh the books of another people from the middle east at
02:28:25.920that time and uh we were far too late but we can't lie to people and say oh you know christianity is
02:28:33.680so bad. It is because of Christianity that we have the Gothic language. Uphilas having it written
02:28:41.460down, the book of Matthew, is the reason why we know what Gothic looks like. Our ancestors,
02:28:52.720if I was to, and I would say this reverently, but I believe it was a mistake. And I would think
02:28:58.800that our ancestors would probably agree but we should have grasped the written language
02:29:06.800but again our ancestors in the placement of action and of breath of speaking was so important
02:29:15.540that i you know i i don't necessarily fault them i understand it um but language is what
02:29:23.460shows our interconnection our interconnection of ideas our interconnection and allows us
02:29:28.480to speculate even beyond um you know could uh indra of the vedic people be thor um and so on
02:29:40.480and so forth we we can speculate that through language and the ability to read these stories
02:29:46.240all right so my favorite house true holiday
02:29:55.920is you i'd have to it just is it's that time of year i think we all feel that it's all of
02:30:07.280It's all of the things that so many of us love about Christmas without the manger and the wise men.
02:56:09.220you know in the past thousands of years to where the high caste ones were very closely
02:56:16.180genetically similar to our people that has long since not been the case
02:56:26.260but you'll still find the higher cast that they are the closer that they are
02:56:32.500now europeans amongst europeans again that's obvious but again with the migrant crisis the0.56
02:56:40.180people rioting in France right now and burning everything down, they may speak an Aryan language,
02:56:46.740they're clearly not Frenchmen. So I mean, that kind of sense extrapolates. So no modern
02:56:56.340Dravidian brown Indians are not Aryans, but they do speak an Aryan language and they hold on to1.00
02:57:04.820a very diluted and very distant link to aryan culture and aryan spirituality that's why there0.94
02:57:14.600is overlap in their conception of divinity but that overlap is very very distant and very very
02:57:21.980um deep into the ancient past swan what would you say uh yeah i everything you're saying is
02:57:31.920I mean, that's the flat point of it. I think all I can do is introduce perhaps another perspective to gain understanding is look at the Chinese in Eastern Asia, look at the Japanese and you look at the surrounding areas, the Koreans and their influence from China, their influence from Japan.
02:57:51.980Or even a strange occurrence, too, is that the Japanese people that came to the island and they got influenced by the Ainu people.
02:58:04.700um and so there's a strange moment of where you have kind of the overarching group coming in and
02:58:12.420not influencing um the present group that they conquer but instead pull up beliefs from them
02:58:21.280which i think speaks to the japanese is like the japanese uh concepts of adaptability they
02:58:28.480they're more literally receptive to ideas um but our folk came in and influenced
02:58:38.080others and we see that everywhere when we run into each other uh that's when we we get mainly
02:58:47.360it's geographical and political uh the reason why the the word arian kind of falls out of usage as
02:58:54.160an identity marker is because we were not trying to identify ourselves amongst ourselves it was
02:59:01.760very strong in the middle east hence iranian the the persians if you will um because they were right
02:59:10.960in there next to the semitic people whereas you see the hittites and the louians they
02:59:17.760inter they intermixed they absorbed much of what they encountered um the same with the the uh vedic
02:59:26.400people and eventually they did absorb but when they set things up they set it up very very
02:59:33.120strongly and then eventually over time there were concepts but they were changed and and um
02:59:39.920you know they're the the uh divinities that are now are entirely uh products of those people
02:59:50.240um but they're you know they have structure from the aryan religion but in europe they didn't need
02:59:56.800that they didn't need there was they were all of various perhaps migrational stages um but
03:00:04.560genetically you know again the proto-indo-european people and the bell beaker and who wiped out one
03:00:13.840or the uh it's like you can't tell because genetically they're they're very close so
03:00:20.640you know there was a lot of theories around that and that was because of their connectivity and so
03:00:26.480that they did they identified along religious things by the time there was
03:00:37.200non-whites making incursions into europe it was christian versus more
03:00:45.680and it was obvious if you're brown you're moorish if you're not you're christian because that was0.69
03:00:51.360the psychic play in southern europe and eastern europe at the time so but yeah that's a very
03:00:59.600really important point you raise the meaning of needing to define it's just like there was no
03:01:05.920term for ausentia back in in our ancestors time it was unnecessary who are you oh i'm you know
03:01:15.520from whatever kingdom okay you're obviously ausentia we know what that means because you
03:01:20.800are the religion of your people we understand that that was just the default setting right
03:01:26.320it's only when there was an encroachment of other religions to where you had to specify
03:01:31.760oh i'm this and not that and so that was um part of the idea of zealotry of the fringe which was
03:01:41.200a concept i learned from that book was that when you're distant from the homeland and you're
03:01:49.040surrounded by others you need to hang on to your identity all that much more tightly
03:01:55.680and that's one of the reasons that that became the place name like if you're czechoslovakia and
03:02:02.400you name your country the land of the arians it doesn't make sense because you're bordered by
03:02:06.880arians on every border like what what are you talking about as opposed to what but no we're
03:02:13.120on the frontier through the arians as opposed to all of the knot that are surrounding us that's
03:02:20.080our defining factor um yeah i the another unique thing is what you said it was understood that
03:02:30.080you believed in the gods of your people if you were a lombard or a gepid and you ran into an
03:02:37.120alemani and oh yeah my people call him godan and oh my people call him botan but it still understood0.83
03:02:45.280the same one of the unique things or that is unique in and of itself when you look at other
03:02:51.520groups like you i mean you can argue the origin of yahweh in the judaic sense is that he was once
03:03:00.000part of the greater pantheon of the Levantine people that, um, produced purple. And that could
03:03:08.620be, we could call them the Phoenicians. We could call them the Canaanites, depending on which angle0.82
03:03:13.140you're looking at, but they deeply divided. And so you have one group, um, you know, the Edomites
03:03:20.780are over here and they're worshiping, you know, bullhead baby eater. And then, uh, ours is, you0.79
03:03:27.740know um burning bush uh you know wizard uh guidance god and over there they have the fish god
03:03:37.720because they live next to the water and so they were deeply divided they even have their own
03:03:42.520city-states built entirely around the worship of singular gods and you don't see that amongst us
03:03:50.860so i think it's a unique marker of the middle eastern um what would eventually be known as
03:03:57.260the shemetic or semitic people is these kind of divisionable lines that i would argue that they
03:04:02.940were barreling towards monotheism in their mindset part of the the fruit of their race
03:04:09.820is this deep need to hold on to just a singularity but our folk didn't do that our folk might have
03:04:18.780had different names and certainly the gods were watching when we fought each other but they were
03:04:24.780not different gods and um perhaps there are you know fringe influences um but each of the branches
03:04:36.060produced stories and this kind of ties back to what you had said about how each um cultural
03:04:43.020representation of of the gods in marriage uh siblings and uh steps stepchildren and wedding
03:04:52.220and so on and so forth each aryan culture has a very unique blueprint of the gods in relation to
03:05:01.340each other there are elements that are always there there is always the tripartite and i know
03:05:06.780i i bring it up all the time but it is that element in all yes please
03:05:12.220sup to the tripartite but we know that it is there even though perhaps it may be different
03:05:18.060amongst the slavs different amongst the gulls different amongst uh the the britannians it's
03:05:23.500always there and the germanics and the nords and their variations um there are these kind of
03:05:31.420commonality things that are the fruit of our religious culture that is why it is it it is
03:05:37.740better to give them the nomenclature of being arian because they supersede all of the linguistic
03:05:45.900and nationalistic divisions that we have when we do talk about the tripartite and uh we do talk
03:05:53.180about mythos or arian mythos or arian cyclical nature very very important that we use that word
03:06:01.340because it supersedes a lot of the divisional lines that we have today that we know about i'm
03:06:06.940not trying to deny them but they exist there so the last question by um
03:06:18.460the 45 caliber medic number three is that's a cool name
03:06:25.980uh how does the afa relate to the pre and we have another question lined up too i didn't
03:06:31.820can get about it but this is continuing on the topic um how does the afa relate to the pre-indo
03:06:37.900european or pre-aryan migrations heritage of europe it seems like the arians arose from europe's
03:06:45.340stock but is there a larger group that arians ultimately belong to something that we might
03:07:12.380Nick may have the episode number that we started it on, but while he digs that up and we find
03:07:22.440it, we've talked about kind of this very thing.
03:07:25.160One of the things that Chris and I tried to do was plot a from the Ice Age through the Viking Age connectivity, pointing out that our people and our gods have been connected from that point onward, the same people and the same gods,
03:07:50.000and how those changed and evolved and became seemingly different in ways over that time.
03:08:00.820But no, our gods are that old, our people are that old.
03:08:04.800The gods and the people don't change every time language does
03:08:08.420or every time they move into a new valley or a new nation.
03:08:16.160So to kind of help us remember where we came from, where we all came from,
03:08:20.000Your question, there are us, there are, sure, Aryans are a culture that is Caucasoid, and eventually all Caucasians became Aryans because of the conquest pattern.
03:08:47.800So, it's like as our gods in the very earliest primordial time before the time of man, there
03:08:58.540were Aesir and Vanir, when the Aesir conquered the Vanir, they all became Aesir.0.79
03:09:05.540There was old Europeans that are little pockets of populations that were isolated from the
03:09:12.000same rootstock, but they were isolated during the Ice Age.
03:09:17.800pockets of people are the same people as the bigger pocket of people that became the arians
03:09:25.400for the folks on the caucasian step um caspian step there so those are the same people the
03:09:36.200biggest chunk of them are what we would traditionally know as arians and as they
03:09:42.360moved in and met their isolated kinsmen they absorbed them and you know their their their
03:09:51.800numbers increased as that happened but yes that's the population i think that you're referring to
03:09:57.240in that and that's our relationship to them as they were isolated you know distant they were
03:10:03.080cousins that were isolated through the ice age and that our people reconnected with and reabsorbed
03:10:09.160um swan say you hyperborean thulian glacier nights no um
03:10:17.160well yeah that that does bring in a point about we know the word uh ariya uh arian irani or iranin
03:10:30.660um we know that that is spoken anything before that is speculative the language and i'm not
03:10:39.160even actually shooting that down the idea that an h was before it so it might have been uh
03:10:45.240herios or herion um because we see the h and the and the e and the a being even in my you know my
03:10:53.320last name jarl earl harold eriloy amongst the greeks it's there's some crazy stuff and that
03:11:00.120was all relatively in the same time frame so now you add thousands of years and you see these um
03:11:06.120inflections come in and drop out and so on and so forth but we could say oh it it's it was probably
03:11:12.600hedios so we could say we are the hedios um but that's not we don't know that that was spoken but
03:11:19.880we do know what was spoken and then when we talk about the hyperboreans or the thule you know as
03:11:27.240as a, as a concept, let's say we came from them, uh, that is still these names from,
03:11:36.020from the Latin and, um, or Latinum and, and Greco concepts. Um, that's not us naming. That's,
03:11:44.980uh, that's, well, I mean, it's like us naming ourselves long after the fact in retrospect.
03:11:52.080So I don't know. Whatever that is, the idea of us coming from a source and then our being not fully identifiable simply because of our fragmentation to eventually the culmination of what we know as the spoken word of the noble ones or the honorable ones is, again, left to speculation.
03:12:22.080But the fact, I do believe it is there. I just don't know if it's, again, we, Hyperborean, living on glacier palaces and the pre-societal thing, like, you know, there's Goblet Tepe of Turkey.
03:12:43.340yeah gobekli tepi in turkey and you know this time frame that was these people and our people
03:12:51.740were doing the same thing you know surfing the glaciers up in the and and ascending into the
03:12:57.580northern lights um and then you know something happened and we moved down into the central and
03:13:03.440then spread out from there um i'm not even even though i'm joking about it in a tongue-in-cheek
03:13:09.380way i'm not shooting down those ideas that we have an origination the problem is we don't it's
03:13:18.020so speculative as once you cross that nexus point into the past we a million percent have an origin
03:16:23.380All's Harrier Goathe. I don't have a planned
03:16:27.800out scripted thing. I don't like that. When I speak
03:16:31.840to the gods, I want to speak from the heart.
03:16:35.860There are some formulas or some things I repeat or some
03:16:39.680things that I think are meaningful that maybe I say, but
03:16:43.440i want to genuinely express from from my soul from my heart my feelings my intentions to the
03:16:55.920gods and i don't want that um diluted by a script
03:17:01.200so i think that your guidance should be honesty and piety
03:17:13.440And I think whatever you do, as long as you are doing it seriously and with good intentions and with respect, and you honestly represent yourself, I think that's the way to go.
03:17:27.560I think when you have a bunch of bloat elements, that's much more for when you have a group of people.
03:17:36.100like i don't do a bloat if i am leaving bloat for assembled afa members
03:17:44.760it is a very different thing than if i'm standing before my altar and i'm just making a simple
03:17:51.240offering to the gods so that's what it sounds like you are suggesting you would like to do
03:17:58.200what i'd suggest i know that that is meaningful to me because i'm very from the heart kind of person
03:18:06.840and speak off the cuff kind of person i also know that everybody's not wild that way i know that
03:18:13.400some people take a lot of comfort in having an idea of what they're going to say or having a
03:18:18.600formula or having something you're going to do so i would offer this i think that you need to
03:18:25.560find a special spot to do it. That can be your home altar, it can be a special place
03:18:36.700outside that is pretty, or that's powerful, or that's special to you. It can be a cool
03:18:44.100tree, it can be a cool rock, it can be a spot that's a clearing in the woods, or a place
03:18:49.280down by the river or you know just a spot that's special to you um i would start by
03:19:05.520inviting the god or gods that you want to be present to hear you and to be there
03:19:11.280express that you want to give them a gift of you mentioned you would like to give them
03:19:19.800a gift of food so you know for example Lord Odin I've come here to this place to reach
03:19:31.320out to you today. I would like to offer you this food that I've prepared. I hope that
03:19:41.140you will accept it in the spirit that I offer it. And then I would say a message that is
03:19:49.380from the heart of what your intention is. Why are you offering it? Is it in thanks for
03:19:54.800something is it in order to show appreciation is it and express that hey i was thinking of you and
03:20:03.760i want to build a greater connection i give you this offering uh from me to you i hope i make you
03:20:10.240proud hail owen and then close out and it can be that simple but speak your heart you can say more
03:20:19.600but that in a very basic sense is what i would do um spawn what would you add to that or what
03:20:29.420would you do differently um your faith is a sword is a spear is an axe it's the action of your hands
03:20:39.160but there are two things that one below and one above that the heart and the mind your heart your
03:20:46.700inclination your inspiration that which moves you to be genuine in your faith is i wish to give a
03:20:54.620gift and uh this gift is what you wish it to be um that is that uh from the heart and then
03:21:05.500when you do things you don't want to do them with blindly so the mind hones the heart and as
03:21:14.940as Al-Syaragothi said, it's intention. What does this gift represent to me? The sustenance
03:21:22.540of food, and I wish to share that sustenance that has been bestowed upon me as a blessing
03:21:31.340in giving thanks, and that kind of conceptualization. So you have the conscious
03:21:38.040mind and the intuitive heart uh formalizing together with the action in in your hands
03:21:46.280and that's really all you need when you come to a hof when you come to a national event
03:21:53.560and you see all of these multiple layers these are communal relationship traditions that have been
03:22:01.400placed in and it so it should be enjoyed for that the communication between the group and the gods
03:22:09.720is built on years and years of doing this together and that has its own beauty but when you're at
03:22:17.880home it can be simple and it can be from the heart if you have something from the heart but you don't
03:22:26.840feel like like you're almost like you're hopping on one leg you need the other legs so you need
03:22:32.040this the the the intellectual part you want to write something down that's great too that builds
03:22:39.800um your knowledge and lore together so when you do these things i would always encourage to speak
03:22:48.040from the heart if you can't write it down try your best but really give do the action
03:22:57.080your ignition of inspiration from your heart and your desire to understand why you're you
03:23:03.560are feeling this way is what makes it a noble pursuit and the action itself i think will will
03:23:10.600garner a fruit of a relationship with the gods because that's genuine you're genuine i want to
03:23:18.680expand on this for a minute because something i've been thinking about lately because of another
03:23:22.840conversation i was having um one day i will have a really cool name for this principle and we can
03:23:30.840like hashtag it it'll be a thing but i don't right now um
03:23:40.600A lot of people make this harder than it should be.
03:23:47.600A lot of people, because they're not used to speaking to the gods,
03:23:55.320and because the gods are so vast and so overwhelming in scope,
03:24:02.520and out of an abundance of piety, they want to treat them a certain way.
03:24:10.600And I think that this happens in life in a lot of ways.
03:24:15.580Like, if you want to interact with King Charles,
03:24:20.280there's a whole bunch of protocol and things and special dance moves and stuff you have to do
03:24:26.860because they've created this great distance.
03:24:31.080But fundamentally, though he is a king, he's also a man.