Asatru Folk Assembly - 11⧸1⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 69 - ᛜᛞᛟ

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00:03:49.760 all right guys welcome back to another exciting edition of victory never sleeps

00:04:00.980 as you guys can tell we are back to our traditional uh at least our traditional

00:04:07.820 positions to do the show in. As you may have noticed in the intro, we want to acknowledge

00:04:15.120 the passing of longtime AFA member Alan Wittenberg. He passed on the 28th while many of us were

00:04:22.700 at Winter Nights at Sigurheim. Still getting, you know, learning more about the man, but

00:04:37.280 he was an afa member from the free assembly days so a long time supporter of the astro folk assembly

00:04:46.160 and uh astro in general and cool all right guys welcome back i'm sorry about that i'm not sure

00:04:54.000 where folks uh left us um obviously we have some back end work we need to do to get this

00:05:00.940 thing working the way we need to since some of our uh our changes that were made a few weeks ago

00:05:08.860 um if you guys heard i said i wanted to this is going to be the last of swan and i's runic series

00:05:19.280 we finished finishing off the last three runs the elder futhark tonight um but i'd also like

00:05:25.700 to talk to you guys a little bit about winter nights at Sigurheim this last weekend. Both Svon

00:05:32.260 and myself were in attendance, and it was a very exciting weekend, and I think a very

00:05:41.780 spiritually powerful weekend for a great many of us, including myself.

00:05:55.700 not sure. So I guess a good place to start. Svon, could you tell folks a little bit about

00:06:04.440 you and your family's experience this last weekend? Yeah, absolutely. Well, so we drove,

00:06:14.500 the drive was long, but we're used to it. We make, we make drives pretty far out,

00:06:21.320 sometimes even fly to uh events because again the it's always the initial push is really hard

00:06:29.140 to get things rolling but when we get there it's worth it every way shape and form it's it's uh

00:06:35.040 it's always shocking to me like by the time we get out of say just our city and we're starting

00:06:42.900 to move along the kids flow into a mode me and my wife we start you know kind of we get a chance to

00:06:49.120 like talk and, and hang out together. Cause we work so much sometimes. And, uh, and then the,

00:06:55.720 the, the spiritual kind of, uh, realization that we're going to a place where it's just our people

00:07:02.400 and just our folk, um, it's kind of sets in and we're noticing things. And then when we finally

00:07:09.500 get in, um, we ended up, um, you know, getting a local spot and, and setting up a campsite.

00:07:17.380 So we did kind of both to have options open and just the anticipation, not knowing exactly who else is going to be there and then slowly just watching from like Thursday on people just rolling in and rolling in and rolling in.

00:07:35.200 And I mean, good amount of people on Thursday night, which surprised me.

00:07:39.100 I was expecting a few.

00:07:40.820 A lot of folks decided they're going to do it from the get-go.

00:07:47.180 And then Friday night was packed, and we still had Saturday to go.

00:07:54.060 Seeing the work that was done out there, the communal, the large, like, tent,

00:07:58.920 getting all the tent spaces for camping out.

00:08:02.460 um you know we had our the water and the bathrooms were there in case anybody needed some

00:08:07.600 um and the tables were set up we had our harrow in the center of the tent and we had an auction

00:08:13.760 table and then like silent auctions and some other really cool items uh coffee and things like that

00:08:19.660 uh the kitchen was kind of it was an impromptu kitchen but man it like functioned really well

00:08:25.560 and uh you know then the pilgrimage up the mountain in it both its ways um there's the

00:08:35.320 the graveyard that is far more extensive than i thought it was when i first saw it it was overgrown

00:08:42.180 and i only saw like maybe a couple of gravestones but now that the folks there at sigurheim were

00:08:47.220 clearing it out i could see up to like 14 15 gravestones some of them going all the way back

00:08:53.300 into the 1800s and um and then seeing your mother's uh headstone there as well was really moving

00:09:00.980 actually i have a story about that that i didn't get a chance to actually tell you um but i in a

00:09:07.780 second i guess um but seeing those old gravestones and then seeing the harrow that was erected to the

00:09:14.020 dc and the alfar and um the the lights up there and then traveling up the mountain with my son

00:09:24.420 and a couple of members that had never been out to an event before um when we were going up towards

00:09:35.140 the top of the mountain for tears bloat and uh i remember looking over and a member was weeping

00:09:41.540 and i was i was like you're all right i didn't know like a twisted ankle or a branch or something

00:09:47.620 in the on the mountain hike and and um he said no i'm just so grateful i'm i'm so moved this is um

00:09:55.700 this is a really big deal and it's all kind of hitting now and i was just like yep i i get it

00:10:03.220 it like i i had the i had the the i guess the ability to be ahead by a season or so to get up

00:10:11.260 there but it was yeah it was still very poignant and i think for somebody going up there the first

00:10:18.840 time and that that hike is it it definitely makes you work out you're you're you're sweating out

00:10:25.240 piety going up that mountain there's a lot of folks that um you know didn't didn't realize

00:10:32.740 like how much it went up but it does go up and it's at night you know it's it's a it's a hike

00:10:38.420 but then you're way up there above the trees and um you know it was a beautiful bloat to lord tier

00:10:47.300 uh yeah you know the the the singing and the galdering and uh i just kept holding my hand up

00:10:56.980 um in reference to the sacrifice of lord tear um and uh yeah it was amazing it was amazing and then

00:11:07.940 that was just on that was like technically the first night though it was the second night for me

00:11:12.660 um then you know moving into the next day the food all the kids my children were completely

00:11:22.100 exhausted by the end of the day they were running around like crazy um great conversations lots of

00:11:31.260 theosophical discussions with lots of different members talking about things different ideas um

00:11:37.360 and then we got ready for uh alfar bloat and you know holding our elf are the the runes that we

00:11:45.360 had set aside for that and placing them in the fire and desir bloat and giving thanks and the

00:11:50.760 flowers towards the mothers of our line and then moving down to the sumble and the sumble

00:11:57.480 I have been to a lot of sumbles and to be honest I've been to so many that

00:12:05.440 with a fair degree I can say like some of them have some very poignant parts and everything

00:12:12.400 that everyone says is moving and important but this one stuck out in particular I don't know if

00:12:19.680 it was the people and the location and the combination of the two uh i if perhaps the

00:12:27.300 bloats that preceded it were very very uh the the they were just heavy and it was one of the

00:12:36.440 it felt like a very long stumble but when looking at our our uh time pieces we were like wow that

00:12:42.640 was actually really fast uh it was it seemed strange to me it seemed magical in a way the way

00:12:50.860 that the uh the hearing what everyone had to say and there were so many people and the tables were

00:12:56.360 so big and everyone was going around and it just seemed like it was it seemed like a long bloat

00:13:02.620 but then we i mean assemble and then we looked down and it was like no time had passed at all

00:13:06.540 And there were people crying and laughing and singing.

00:13:10.860 It was amazing.

00:13:11.960 There was so much like up and down.

00:13:14.660 And the final third round was just so filled with like happiness and joy and accomplishment and eyes setting on the horizon.

00:13:24.440 There was a lot going on this weekend.

00:13:27.340 And then the final day on Sunday when we just kind of had, you know, well, an amazing breakfast.

00:13:35.240 Mike and his spicy grits with sausage are, that's still like, I'm digging it.

00:13:41.880 It was very, very good.

00:13:43.420 And then Witten, Brandy held a really nice bloat at the end.

00:13:48.700 And the one thing that I really liked about the Wayfarer's bloat that we always do is,

00:13:52.420 and this one in particular, the one that she held was, um, at the end, we got to coalesce with

00:13:57.380 each other. We, one half of the group just kind of immediately converged to the other half and we

00:14:03.440 were shaking and hugging, shaking and hugging each other, you know, wishing each other protection on

00:14:08.720 the road and, and, um, you know, thanks for helping out while going up the hill or, you know, moving

00:14:16.540 water and everybody was, you know, pitching in and it was just, it was really good. It felt like

00:14:25.280 such an, sometimes after events, you know, you might be tired, jet lagged, sad to go, or, or

00:14:33.000 immediately might be troubled with some of the scheduling that, that might be waiting for, you

00:14:38.100 know, like waiting for me at home. I had none of that. I was completely calm when we left. Everything

00:14:44.580 was nice it felt great um and sometimes too like coming back home it's jarring to think like oh

00:14:53.940 i'm leaving my people but this time it was kind of like like uh it was there wasn't a separation

00:14:59.760 there was a bleed over if you will like i left there not like like it was a vacation away from

00:15:09.280 the normal society. No, I didn't feel like that at all. I remember thinking about that on the way

00:15:15.920 home. I used to feel that way when I would leave events and go back to non-ousatrous society,

00:15:22.680 but this time it was different. It was, I left taking that with me, like that there wasn't a

00:15:30.620 separation, but I was carrying my faith and the plans and the future of my faith into society.

00:15:39.900 There wasn't this kind of separation. There wasn't this need or, uh, you know, um, you know,

00:15:45.980 I'm wearing my hammer now, but you know, at work, they might be enough. None of that stuff. It was

00:15:50.720 just complete convergence. And I felt amazing leaving. I felt empowered. I felt clarified and

00:16:02.680 understood and appreciated too greatly. There was a lot of folks there that asked me a lot of great

00:16:09.280 questions and really wanted some insight on some spiritual stuff and even counseling. I got a

00:16:17.120 chance to counsel a member that had experienced some tragedy and, and got to kind of listen in

00:16:27.760 and be sought out after for advice. And I know that it just, it, it blows me away and it humbles

00:16:36.900 me in the same sense. Like I, I, you know, I felt extremely effective at being able to be there for

00:16:47.020 some of my folk and even though they might not have realized that they were there very much for

00:16:51.980 me as well because again rolling in there I was kind of stressed out and then it just got better

00:16:56.880 and better and by the time we were there it was like it was uh it was exhilarating it was fun it

00:17:02.900 was um the possibilities there um got to do a little storytelling that was really nice too that

00:17:07.940 was pretty fun um overall the weekend I mean there's just a lot of things I could go on about

00:17:13.160 it. But at the, I would say the biggest tell at the end was that I didn't feel separated from it.

00:17:18.500 I felt as if it simply was a continuation into everyday life. I wasn't, there was no pondering

00:17:29.480 about the gods. There was no pondering about our community. Our community was there, is there.

00:17:34.120 The God's real. Everything out in the world is good. I wasn't in some state of like

00:17:39.520 contemplation I was it was pure and clean leaving there I don't know clarity I haven't had in a long

00:17:49.560 long while yeah that was that was something that was in common with a great number of the folks

00:18:01.960 that were there, it seemed like.

00:18:06.720 This is our first time hosting this event at Sigurheim.

00:18:10.980 This is the first winter nights that we've had Sigurheim.

00:18:14.380 So I think that was, you know, kind of an X factor on what, you know,

00:18:21.580 what the temperature would be like, what the,

00:18:24.460 whether we'd be there at the right time for the change of the leaves.

00:18:27.880 It was beautiful.

00:18:28.860 um but i think everything worked out great just the way it should uh for those of you guys that

00:18:36.120 that don't know and i wish i would have thought earlier i would have uh set up some pictures for

00:18:42.600 nick to to show we should be having our uh slideshow coming out for the event by the end of the week

00:18:48.860 But, yeah, I think in three quarters of a mile or so worth of hike, you go 360-some-odd feet of elevation.

00:19:05.260 So you get some hike pretty quick on a really beautiful, beautiful ridgeline.

00:19:11.840 And it's the ridgeline that eventually we are going to build a hoff to work tier on.

00:19:16.900 So much to the chagrin of many of our feats, mine included,

00:19:23.860 we were up and down and up and down that thing all weekend.

00:19:27.500 It was – it's just such a special place.

00:19:31.760 You want to get every – get everything out of it you can,

00:19:35.440 so you kind of leave it all on the field.

00:19:36.940 um the walk up there especially to and from bloat is really powerful um certainly very powerful

00:19:48.160 for for me i get a lot out of it i think folks that you know if it is more of a challenge for

00:19:56.320 certain people i think that you know they focus a little bit more at the task but it's a really

00:20:00.940 good time to to think and to process in a very long way into and out of sacred space when you're

00:20:09.020 doing it particularly special for me on the way back from from tears blow

00:20:20.300 svan mentioned something else that i'm not sure if if our audience realizes but we have a

00:20:26.300 uh very old and very special um a family graveyard that's on the site that had not been tended in

00:20:38.540 i don't know it doesn't look like people took any care of that in at least 100 years

00:20:42.300 I think our oldest person interred there I'll check I'll have a date for you on that here in

00:20:57.720 in a second um but yeah it was really special we have uh the grave of a Revolutionary War veteran

00:21:06.840 there but we couldn't find it at first because it was so overgrown over the uh

00:21:14.040 century and a half since it was uh since it was since he was laid to rest there so

00:21:21.800 it's been very nice some volunteers went out there and over time have you know

00:21:27.480 taken care of that spot made it really special um

00:21:31.000 Um, and that's also where you guys may remember that I, uh, interred the ashes of my mother.

00:21:38.240 Svon spoke a little bit about it, but it was really cool for me to do a de-sear bloat in the graveyard, you know, literally standing next to my mom or as close as I can with her that side of the veil.

00:21:52.720 Um, so it was really powerful for me for obvious reasons, but a number of other people had really, uh, really special experiences at that bloat as well.

00:22:04.220 Um, such a nice weekend. We all set up a pavilion tent down in the field and we were at that, um, I'd say we were at that spot most of the time.

00:22:19.380 um and that was cool it was you know illuminated by torches and candles and it was neat to have

00:22:27.760 all of our our folk gathered there uh eating in that pavilion tent we used the same tent at

00:22:32.960 sigurbloat but it's um it's a little bit it's a little bit different we had a good turnout we

00:22:40.720 had sigurbloat was awesome but it wasn't wasn't quite the number of folks that were there this

00:22:46.660 time and it was cool to just see that that big pavilion tent filled with with our folk eating

00:22:52.180 and celebrating and enjoying each other's company um yeah a lot of a lot of our people really needed

00:23:01.060 that weekend so i'm glad we got to got to share that together yeah i wanted to bring up one thing

00:23:08.100 um that night after stumble and uh everybody kind of you know went went to bed and there

00:23:16.420 There was a few people that stayed up and talked, and then they eventually went to bed.

00:23:20.600 And I found myself the last one up, and I decided to take a lantern and go back up to the graveyard and kind of sit out a little bit.

00:23:30.960 And I went up there, and the candle on your mother's – there was one in front of your mother's gravestone, so I couldn't see it.

00:23:41.740 there was this emanating light coming from up there but i couldn't see the source and i i was

00:23:47.460 like is there a fire still going i'm pretty sure we were good about you know our fire control and

00:23:53.200 all of that but i just saw this illuminating light and i i kind of went up there and i turn

00:23:59.340 around and in front there's a candle lit and i was like oh well that's i mean that first of that

00:24:06.820 was good. Cause it was surrounded and it was secure. It was, uh, but it was still on. And so

00:24:12.840 I, I, uh, I sat up next to the Harrow next to the Godstead of the DC or the, or the 0.72

00:24:19.640 D-Serstead and, um, and, and just sat there, um, with your mom and the others, uh, for

00:24:31.160 in, in the silent of the night, it was really, really nice. It was beautiful. The full moon

00:24:36.000 creeping in and out uh on that that uh friday and saturday through the clouds and there was a

00:24:43.440 brief moment where i could hear the the the bugs and the frogs like chirping at a distance but it

00:24:50.580 got real quiet around us or around me and around the spot and um it was it was super peaceful at

00:24:57.760 first i was like i wasn't quite sure and then it got really quiet but i could still hear kind of

00:25:03.800 at a distance and then it picked up again. And that's when I truly noticed that it had actually

00:25:08.300 gotten quiet, um, because it suddenly picked up again. And, um, it was very moving in a kind of a,

00:25:16.760 I mean, I'm not, I'm not saying it's spooky in any way, but I mean, I guess, you know,

00:25:20.620 on Deezer Bloat on, you know, in winter nights, sitting in a graveyard with, but with total

00:25:26.660 respect and total desire to be there in in homage and and kind of it felt like at least for some of

00:25:36.740 the the gravestones there that they haven't had company in such a long time and it felt amazing

00:25:44.580 to to sit there and just kind of be in the presence of the ancestors that um you know

00:25:55.220 i don't know i i i can't explain it it was just it felt really good but i wanted to let you know

00:26:01.540 like the the light up there i didn't douse the light i left it i made sure it was secure

00:26:06.180 but it was really beautiful to like kind of go up there and see this light not knowing exactly

00:26:10.660 where it was coming from and it was just the way the stone was covering the light and it was uh it

00:26:17.140 was beautiful it was quiet everyone was asleep um it was a it was truly magical that was something

00:26:23.380 that was just happened for me, but I wanted to share that. And I, you know, I guess sharing it

00:26:29.540 here is, you know, for the folks that are listening too, but it was, it was truly magical.

00:26:36.300 It felt amazing. There was a lot going on.

00:26:43.120 I talk a lot on here when we talk about ritual and ritual practice about,

00:26:50.440 about approaching

00:26:54.120 interaction with the gods or the ancestors

00:27:00.120 with an open mind and an open heart.

00:27:02.960 And I think one of the things,

00:27:05.340 kind of a theme of this whole rune series that we've done

00:27:08.960 is the idea of forming

00:27:12.340 or affecting the lens with which you view the world.

00:27:17.000 when you school yourself in the runes

00:27:20.520 and you internalize them,

00:27:22.300 then you can view through a runic lens

00:27:25.000 and see those kinds of connections

00:27:26.880 and see those things at work.

00:27:35.600 Life in general is like that with Alsatru.

00:27:43.880 I think that a lot of people

00:27:47.000 I have a tendency to talk about things as if they believe in them.

00:27:55.960 But when you're doing it in the initial stages, or at least for many of us,

00:28:01.360 you want to believe and you say that you believe, but then there's a moment that happens.

00:28:09.340 And if you're lucky, there's many moments that happen to where it's not an issue of believing.

00:28:16.260 It just is. And when that reality confronts you, it's startling.

00:28:22.860 And I think we all need to just be prepared that we're doing something very real here.

00:28:29.540 The things we talk about are real.

00:28:33.280 Our ancestors looking on and interacting with us from beyond the veil is very real.

00:28:39.460 and our gods responding to us when we invite them to join us in bloat,

00:28:50.860 when we worship them, when we reach out to them and reaching back.

00:28:57.840 It's shocking to all of us because it's such a big deal,

00:29:02.100 but it shouldn't be the surprise that it is.

00:29:05.200 And those of us who've done this for a long time, it's really special to feel that.

00:29:12.740 And a lot of folks really felt that, some of them for the very first time this last weekend.

00:29:20.920 Svon and I do our best to parse out the mechanics of how divine interaction works and how dealing with, you know, the spirits of the dead work.

00:29:33.000 and we're doing the best that we can, but, you know, undoubtedly our discussion of the science

00:29:39.180 of it is imperfect. Hopefully we, you know, Svon and I have invested a lot of years and I think

00:29:45.180 that we know, I think that we know some very valuable things about it, but the longer we do

00:29:51.400 this, I, you know, we should be learning more all the time, but whatever we get right or we don't

00:29:57.720 on the mechanics the fact remains that you know but it is the fact remains it's real

00:30:07.240 and many of us know irrefutably that it's real and it's it's awkward um sometimes we have

00:30:13.640 audience on here that you know are are from an atheist background maybe even still are atheist

00:30:19.560 but just like our our program and like we talk about or want to consider it and it's so hard to

00:30:26.920 justify metaphysical things to someone who is predisposed to be closed off to them because no

00:30:35.480 amount of intellectual debate is what seals the deal when you experience it you know and once

00:30:47.800 you know you can't go back to not knowing and for folks that are shut off to to experience it

00:30:56.920 until that gets real for them,

00:31:00.220 they're never going to know what they're missing.

00:31:01.540 And so it's a very difficult conversation

00:31:03.240 because the argument's not won and lost,

00:31:06.920 you know, over a computer debate.

00:31:09.620 It's experienced in the real world.

00:31:12.880 And I'm very blessed that I was able to experience

00:31:15.020 some of that with my FA families last weekend.

00:31:18.680 Stuff I should have talked about at the top of the show,

00:31:21.820 but was a little bit flustered by our technical difficulties.

00:31:24.380 our next event coming up very quickly is going to be Feast of the Iron Her Yard in South Dakota

00:31:34.760 and that's a little that's about a week and a half away so if you can make that by all means

00:31:43.560 do what you can to get there I would love to meet you and see you there the McNallans will also be

00:31:49.480 there, and it's going to be a really nice event, so that should be great. Yeah, that's what we got

00:31:56.400 coming up next. As always, we should be broadcasting live on YouTube, on Entropy, on VK, Odyssey, Rumble,

00:32:14.320 Twitter, and

00:32:16.520 something else that we just tried two weeks ago and I and it's not coming to me right now

00:32:23.960 but um we got that going on we've got a lot of ways for people to donate some new fun ways for

00:32:31.540 people to donate with little little sound effects and graphics and cool stuff the link for those

00:32:37.960 kind of things is in the description of this of this broadcast and it uh it's appreciated

00:32:46.460 it. It's fun. You can get a little noise to pop up. We're also on Twitch. That's what I was

00:32:52.800 forgetting. But it's got a little noises and little, you know, cool graphics or whatever.

00:32:58.100 But at the end of the day, it's a donation to our church. We appreciate it a lot. It goes to

00:33:03.260 getting some very good things accomplished. That said, a couple of housekeeping things,

00:33:11.980 because it is the beginning of a new month, and I wanted to talk a little bit about progress.

00:33:20.760 For those of you who've been following a couple of our fundraising efforts, we talked about Sigurheim.

00:33:29.480 It's a long-term project, but we got into a loan agreement to where we were able to get Sagerheim for $250,000.

00:33:48.120 And as of right now, I just threw up the graphic.

00:33:51.440 um again the way i look at this show it's it's super small so i can't really see the graphic

00:34:00.880 but uh i'm looking at something on my phone that should tell me and make this work a little bit

00:34:05.920 better um i like the little thermometers though i think they're a cool way to visualize it

00:34:12.800 assuming you're looking at them full screen. Uh, yeah, we have $209,720.21 that we still owe on it.

00:34:24.240 So in, you know, under a year and when we're in another loan situation, paying off New York's

00:34:31.280 off, I don't think that's bad progress at all. I appreciate everybody who's donated to that. This

00:34:35.760 is just letting you guys know where we stand with paying off Sigerheim. And then that brings 1.00

00:34:41.200 up the next thing that i mentioned was paying off mjortz off as many of you guys know uh our

00:34:47.520 next big thing that we're trying to do is to establish phrase off and the idea for that is

00:34:52.720 either in far western pennsylvania or in eastern ohio so in order to do that we've got a couple

00:35:01.840 of things we got to meet now we have a an income number overall that we need to get met to budget

00:35:10.400 for it where that's a reasonable thing. As I've mentioned before, one of the

00:35:16.640 cool situations we find ourselves in is the bigger challenge isn't so much to be able to afford

00:35:23.600 a new Hoff, it's to afford to continue running additional Hoffs. That initial purchase is a big

00:35:31.840 deal, but once we get a Hoff, we're making a commitment to our gods, to the God of that Hoff 0.98

00:35:38.400 that we're going to maintain a temple to them and that means we need to have a lot of things in 0.93

00:35:43.040 place to do it one of those is to have the budget set where that's not in jeopardy so we're working

00:35:48.640 on that we're very very close to that number we may be at that number i've just got to check

00:35:52.960 last week's or i'm sorry last month's average income situation and then i'll know a little

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00:36:54.880 for itself you guys have been very generous and we really appreciate you guys anyone interesting

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00:37:06.640 we have a donate link and we really appreciate you guys if that's something you want to contribute

00:37:12.080 towards ah getting that out of the way and you know 40 minutes in i would like to start on uh

00:37:20.720 The first of our last three runes that we're going to have.

00:37:27.300 Oh, no.

00:37:28.780 Hey, hey, hey.

00:37:30.060 Svan, can you tell the folks about Ingba's?

00:37:38.660 Yes, sorry.

00:37:39.520 I'm having to, I'm also trying to adjust things over here.

00:37:42.580 And I saw a comment earlier saying, like, is my head getting bigger?

00:37:46.620 Am I getting closer to the camera?

00:37:47.940 But while you're doing that, one last note that I want to say, just because I think it's important to honor her by doing this.

00:37:56.620 Our oldest, the first interment of remains at Sigurheim that we know about to this point, at least, is Harriet Neville.

00:38:09.100 I mentioned the Revolutionary War veteran. That's her father, Yelveton Neville.

00:38:14.060 She actually pre-deceased him by three years, and not because of anything tragic.

00:38:22.100 He was just a very old man.

00:38:23.360 He was in his 90s when he passed.

00:38:26.340 But, yeah, she was put to rest there in 1857.

00:38:34.540 All right, Svan, go for it.

00:38:37.020 Tell everybody about the mystery of Ingba's.

00:38:40.640 ah well this is this episode is definitely full of a lot of mysteries um starting off with ingwas

00:38:48.840 ingwas is another rune that is very similar to lagus in the sense that a lot of people have a

00:38:56.500 hard time trying to uh get their head around it if you will um the meanings are subtle and

00:39:06.200 can be obfuscated by different sources, but, um, so first off the, let's, let's go over the

00:39:15.520 vocals of it. Inguaz, Inguaz in the name is in reference to, uh, and, and they're not a hundred

00:39:26.680 percent on this because there are sources that allocate that ing is perhaps, uh, a proto form

00:39:35.300 of lord fray but i'll get into that in a minute um one of the biggest things

00:39:41.440 is that it phonetically represents the ng sound um and the ng sound is extremely important uh

00:39:51.020 in germanic languages i think also too in gothic it is it is extremely important oftentimes it's

00:39:58.480 represented in a Latin word, which looks like an N with a J front. Sometimes, excuse me,

00:40:05.720 sometimes they do a double G and that is a, uh, another linguistic reference to the ing or

00:40:12.240 the ing sound. And, uh, it's one of the only runes besides Tiwaz that is specifically

00:40:23.920 written in referencing to a divine God form.

00:40:30.900 But even this one is still a little bit more obscure

00:40:34.300 because when we talk about the connection to Ing

00:40:38.540 in relation to Ing V. Frey,

00:40:41.260 who is focused on in the Ingital

00:40:45.600 of the Swedish founding of the Swedish kings,

00:40:50.100 there's still a little bit of a wiggle room there in relation to but uh some some runic

00:40:59.200 thought is that it may have been perhaps Njordh and Nerthus in relation to each other I I found

00:41:08.620 a little bit more because every time we do this I try to research and I thought that was very

00:41:13.060 interesting because I have always come from this as this is directly related to

00:41:17.600 Yng v. Frey. And the oldest source that we have is in Tacitus' Germania. They speak of one of the

00:41:25.320 tribes being descended from Yng, and they're called the Yngveons. And so that's one of the oldest 1.00

00:41:32.960 central Germanic mentions that we have of a specific name using ING. Later on in the late

00:41:43.540 Nordic period, we have, of course, Ingvi Frey, and there is a reference to that Lord Ing or

00:41:51.540 Ingvi Frey or Froh Ing was a physical avatar or avatar being or a lord walking amongst the earth

00:42:01.360 who was originally in eastern Denmark and then crossed the waves into what would be now Sweden.

00:42:08.600 And it's mentioned, where he is spoken of as Shield Sheafing, again, another name for him, crossing over the waves and then taking ascendancy to start the dynasty of the kings of Sweden.

00:42:27.600 So there's a lot of information there regarding Lord Ng, and from both a physical standpoint to a metaphysical and mythic, spanning them all.

00:42:44.900 The connection that Lord Ng or Ngvi Frey or Lord Frey has to our people spans over more than just the Nordic branches.

00:42:54.560 And we know about the extreme connections that were made to the Anglos and the Saxons and their connections to Lord Ing.

00:43:02.900 We also know about the Icelanders and their connections to Lord Frey.

00:43:08.000 Of course, the Swedes and their dynasty being started or hearkened back to the lines of Ing.

00:43:15.140 um and you know some people have uh thought that england or angeland may be in connection to ing

00:43:24.320 though i think it has more to do with like the tribal name of the anglos but um some people have

00:43:30.400 tried to make connections there but they're with good reason the anglos had a deep connection to

00:43:36.520 lord ing in and shared symbolic meanings between like the swedes and the anglos both in reference

00:43:44.340 to the boar as a as a symbol um and again a few of the gods held such high renown in relation to

00:43:55.380 uh lord woven or to thor even to the point where sometimes uh uh fray ing or lord ing would would

00:44:05.540 kind of be brought into the tripartite uh it was mentioned during that in upsala where he was

00:44:12.100 standing his godstead was standing next to um uh thor who was in the center and at the highest and

00:44:18.900 then odin was to the to the uh on the other side um and i i've talked about that at length about

00:44:26.500 the tripartites and the thrones and the cyclic nature of the the the triplication of our faith

00:44:33.140 But, you know, Tacitus even, you know, he mentions the tripartite as being that of Tyr and Thor and Lord Odin, not really mentioning Lord Ing, but even they made references to the tribe then.

00:44:50.280 So this is one of those unique runes that is clearly connected to a divine god in singularity.

00:45:03.760 You know, when we talk about Ansuz and we talk about Gebo and their connections to Odin, those are still kind of broad.

00:45:12.040 Tiwaz and Ingwaz are very specific.

00:45:16.580 And again, it throws people off the meaning.

00:45:20.280 So this rune, um, in the eldest form that we have, which is the kilver stone, it was simply a square.

00:45:30.680 It was a square. Uh, it wasn't angled in any particular way. It had four corners and it was flat on top, if you will.

00:45:38.220 Um, it has morphed over time. We have seen it, uh, in the Vatstena Brekte where it is, it is, uh, actually, you know,

00:45:48.900 caddy cornered with two prongs above and two prongs below. The Anglo-Saxons also did the 0.73

00:45:54.780 Vat-Stenebrecht-Day style with the two prongs above and two prongs below. Sometimes you see it

00:46:00.220 as simply a diamond shape. Um, but the general, uh, overall iconic iconographic meaning is a seed

00:46:10.300 or a sheaf of wheat. Sometimes people see it as when the prongs are above and below,

00:46:15.480 They are kind of the stemming, I forgot what they're called, I think it's called phylae or sylae, the little hairs that come off of a grain or kernel of wheat or barley.

00:46:30.240 Sometimes it is simply seen as the seed or the acorn or the berry, if you will.

00:46:37.020 And the major meaning behind this rune is that it is a rune of inevitable potential.

00:46:43.900 at this point it's the encapsulation uh in the in the the mythos of all i i would say this is also

00:46:53.660 the uh perhaps the time in which everything that has been newly amassed and newly brought about

00:47:00.460 and newly attained and cultivated is now brought into a protective state um and this state isn't

00:47:07.600 about protection uh like berkano it is a it is about maintaining or riding out the winter

00:47:14.640 it's about overriding or overlasting the the harshness of of the environment so this rune

00:47:22.880 really is a rune that calls for patience calls for planning in divination sense it could mean uh

00:47:32.960 it's a time to gather your things to count and take assessment to recalibrate and read uh assess

00:47:41.280 where you're at make sure everything is planned and set in its trajectory and then you have to

00:47:48.480 wait it's um it could be considered like a cyclical rune but i think there's a great sense

00:47:54.720 of it being about stillness much like isa this rune has a lot to do with stillness but it's not

00:48:02.260 about stillness in, uh, internalizing, perhaps internalizing emotions or internalizing your

00:48:08.640 mind. This is about stillness of your, of your movement and what you're doing physically around

00:48:14.320 you and getting things prepared, um, for the inevitable, uh, you know, explosion of

00:48:23.960 faithfulness and of the planning of the future. So this is a rune of gestation is I think the

00:48:30.180 keyword that I would attach to it. So all the things that Svon said, but first I want to

00:48:43.740 acknowledge we have a really nice donation of $5 from Daryl. Let's see if we can raise

00:48:54.360 $50 towards Sigurheim tonight, starting here. So Daryl has laid down the challenge to see if we

00:49:01.600 can get up to $50 for Sigurheim. And it looks like we've got, we're 10% there already with

00:49:09.300 Daryl's generous donation. So thank you, Daryl. We appreciate that.

00:49:18.300 Absolutely. This is Lord Frey's Rune.

00:49:24.360 As far as which version folks like to use, I think most of the people that I've spoken to, myself included, like the DNA version, like the one we had posted that's got the little arms up and the arms down.

00:49:44.820 it looks kind of like a double helix it also looks like that seed which is that diamond portion

00:49:53.540 of it is you know germinating like it's sprouting little roots and it's got little

00:49:59.060 the first little green buds coming out of the top i think it's a beautiful way to display it

00:50:05.380 and it's um it's been displayed that way quite a bit but the concept of of being the seed that's

00:50:12.660 planted in the soil, in the often unyielding soil, is coupled with other phallic imagery

00:50:24.120 of Lord Frey. It speaks of that male virility and the idea of planting seeds that will grow

00:50:32.960 in time and become great things.

00:50:40.340 a it's a special rune it's a rune that because of its connection to fray and its symbology of being

00:50:46.820 a seed that idea of implanting something in the ether in the ground to grow is something we often

00:50:57.220 utilize or focus on a lot in february during charming of the plow uh because the idea is

00:51:04.500 is sometimes planting a a first you know doing a first planting at that time some people in colder

00:51:13.300 climates even do that you know in their home symbolically of breaking open the soil and

00:51:18.740 implanting that seed um yeah i do uh apologize that it was a rainbow colored rune um didn't

00:51:32.500 know that's the the art that we were going to use for it and it was not a choice i would have made

00:51:36.820 um it's ours i i guess communication is important and uh especially because the

00:51:52.340 degenerate folk like to

00:51:54.580 impugn Lord Frey's character with accusations of homosexuality. I think I'm probably a little 0.80

00:52:03.560 bit more sensitive to it in that context. But that's not what was meant by it by any means,

00:52:10.060 if there was any confusion in our chat. I hope there's not.

00:52:15.400 Oh, we could definitely go into some of that too.

00:52:18.280 Yeah. And I think that, you know, I think this is a good opportunity with this rune to talk

00:52:23.320 a little bit about Frey, especially because it is his rune. And some of it will come organically

00:52:31.680 from reading the one rune poem. All of tonight's three runes are only existent in the Anglo-Saxon

00:52:41.140 rune poem, which is my favorite rune poem altogether anyway. I've spoken on that a number

00:52:48.220 of times on here. But that is where these three runes have their stanza. Nick, if you

00:52:56.380 could put up the Anglo-Saxon rune poem for us, I would appreciate it.

00:53:01.140 Ing was first seen by men among the East Danes, till, followed by his chariot, he departed

00:53:27.160 eastward over the waves so the herdings named the hero um

00:53:37.480 speaking of the east danes and groups of our folk that were particularly

00:53:47.080 loyal and involved in the worship of lord frayer

00:53:49.880 However, the Swedes and the migrations of our people that moved east into eastern Scandinavia specifically looked to Lord Freyr as the root of their kingship.

00:54:11.720 As one of the chiefs of their gods, they celebrated him in the Freyr cult, was especially fertile there.

00:54:19.880 And I think that's a big part of this. One of the things about Frey that was off-putting to early Christian monks was the celebration of which he was worshipped.

00:54:33.260 And they talked about the clanging of bells as part of his worship was music and was the clanging of bells.

00:54:44.620 And the early Christian missionaries of the time wanted to describe that clattering of bells as being unmanly.

00:54:56.880 And by saying that the clatter of bells was unmanly, that has spawned a modern, mentally ill reconstruction and reimagining of Lord Frey in a very offensive and degenerate way. 0.62

00:55:15.140 And that's what I was referring to a little bit earlier.

00:55:20.140 Do you have any more to add on this, Rones?

00:55:22.260 Yeah, well, speaking on what you had just mentioned, one of the things is that the usage of bells in relation to honoring the elves, there was a particular connection that Christians made understanding that the native faith, the predecessor before they started to change the fabric of culture and society,

00:55:49.080 was that bells were deeply connected, especially brass bells, to the worship of the Alvar and to Lord Frey, who was given dominion over.

00:56:02.860 And I think that the reference of the bells being utilized there was correct.

00:56:11.080 correct but i think like you said they he painting it uh in a way in order to make it some sort of

00:56:21.620 kind of infeminate thing at the same time duel dueled along with the absolute like he was

00:56:29.460 basically running two types of plays one is that uh it was infeminate or drug-induced and and

00:56:36.440 absolutely insane. And then at the other side is they were killing nine of everything and

00:56:41.800 committing human sacrifices and hanging them from the trees. And so he was running this kind of

00:56:47.880 dual narrative of like absolute, you know, I don't know, like just brutality coupled with like,

00:56:58.020 you know, infeminate priests dancing and so on and so forth. You could really tell, I mean, 0.81

00:57:04.100 was kind of like procopius you know he just coming from a source in which he didn't want to represent

00:57:10.820 what was happening with any good intent or light um but there are there are little nuggets within

00:57:19.220 there that showcase things that are very important and i think it's worth noting that when we talk

00:57:24.980 about lord ing and we talk about the yingital or the uh the uh the yingling saga um one is that

00:57:33.220 snorty i think was kind of doing more of like a saxo grammaticus take uh this was one that i think

00:57:42.020 you know you really see that style he was you hemorrhizing the gods to a vast amount saying

00:57:47.140 you know that they were coming from vanaland and coming into oceland and that when they came to

00:57:54.500 the great or sweden um or actually in iceland we call it uh which means people of the of the

00:58:07.060 swedes or people of this in actuality it's a derivative or not like a derivative of the ancient

00:58:13.460 word for boar or a swine the the the land of the the swine tribe the the people of the of the boar

00:58:20.820 um you know he talks about the gods as if they are human kings and uh this is the part where

00:58:30.800 you know lord odin is dying in his bed and he wants to be stabbed so that he can go to his god

00:58:37.760 above which is kind of odd to if you read read it like that and that nyorth takes over and then

00:58:45.060 frey takes over and the lineage of these things i think what what's really worth noting about that

00:58:51.460 story is is that i think these are the cults of the gods being euhemorized as the gods but also

00:58:59.140 as mortal kings and i think that it's it's worth noting that the cult of ovin really came in when

00:59:08.340 people were returning from the migration period of Rome. When a lot of the Germanic folks were

00:59:16.300 working for the Romans, they were part of the Roman Fodorati. And then after some of the tribes 0.88

00:59:22.640 were breaking apart and fighting each other, a great amount of them returned back to the north.

00:59:27.280 And I think that a lot of the cult of Ovin was stronger in the migrational and Eastern Gothic

00:59:35.900 tribes and they brought it up and at the time most likely there was a vanic worship that was

00:59:44.180 heavily stated which i know it throws a lot of people off because they're like wait wait wait

00:59:48.660 the vanic thing is supposed to be bronze age and the arians come in and they usurp them but i think

00:59:54.540 that it's worth noting that it was part of a cyclical nature of our folk to kind of address

01:00:02.660 divinity and connect themselves tribally to certain gods at certain times and that there

01:00:08.480 this kind of influx shows that there was migrational stuff going on um the reason why

01:00:16.180 i brought up about ing being kind of consort to nerthus is uh edward thorson had made mentions

01:00:22.300 of the idea that perhaps ing was a name or a title that could be applied to both njord and

01:00:29.920 Frey, but, um, I, I think he was focusing on a kind of a duality of Nate, uh, the duality of

01:00:39.400 the symbol itself. Um, and we don't really see any sort of connection there. So I, I, I thought

01:00:47.620 it was quite interesting, even though, you know, I, I want to look deeper into that, but the, um,

01:00:53.740 And overall, is that in the Yingling sagas, after Odin, there is Njörð, and after Njörð, there is Frey, and Frey begins the organization and the setting of the kings of Sweden.

01:01:09.120 And Ing is linguistically connected to what would be considered a man or a lord.

01:01:16.480 It's very similar to like the usage of the word hair in German.

01:01:22.580 Of course, ancient usage of it was a warrior and then it became like a lord or a sir.

01:01:29.160 So in names like, you know, Viking, Vikingur, or Koningur, a king, the king of the people, a bay man.

01:01:42.320 it was it became synonymous with and held meaning to the either perhaps your profession

01:01:51.060 your title or just the fact that you were of a people or of a certain type of person

01:01:58.540 so again some people have even argued that ing just means like a lord or a man as well um

01:02:06.780 i mean i i think it's it's interesting because the mystery of lord fray uh i've spoken with

01:02:15.880 some of the godis about the uh the the influx of the avatar the infemination that i think the

01:02:23.080 christians and ultimately even now left-wing pagans try to portray lord fray as as um you know

01:02:30.180 a lord of peace and of i i don't know uh degenerate behavior but in reality um you know he he's much

01:02:40.480 more of the young avatar of battle his horse is called blovin hovey the bloody hooved um he has

01:02:46.940 a sword that fights on its own um he is called the bele slayer and it is said that he slayed him

01:02:53.880 with his bare hands. And even though he gave up his sword in order to gain union, which again,

01:03:05.720 remember, this is about the earth and the sky, the light and the cold dark of the soil. And

01:03:12.040 there's clearly analogies of non-degenerate behavior, but quite natural behavior between

01:03:18.640 the masculine and the feminine, it overexudes in Lord Frey. I mean, even down to the statuary of

01:03:24.560 him, I'm sure it probably, you know, degenerates try to utilize that as well, but it's worth

01:03:33.180 noting that the phallic symbol of Ng is as equally connected to the wheat and the grain

01:03:40.680 as it is the understanding of the plow and the earth. There is so much of a substantiated sense

01:03:47.500 of masculine and feminine there that i think they're really just stretching i mean the only

01:03:53.340 the uh the only thing that they really have outside of the degeneracy of loki which again

01:03:58.780 is a is a whole another subject worth talking about um they're trying to again bleed this over

01:04:06.060 um just as they did with the hijab on lady sif's hair and uh and lord tear being some sort of like

01:04:15.740 ableist or uh because of the losing of his hand completely going over the whole point of that

01:04:21.740 story um lord is the lord of fruitfulness his the the origin of his name throw the meaning peace

01:04:32.620 fruitfulness and plenty the overabundance and the uh the true connection between the king

01:04:42.780 and his people and the land are all played out in this room.

01:04:47.300 So I also wanted to bring up that,

01:04:48.880 is that when it comes to Lord Frey and of the,

01:04:55.800 I would say like the Swedish style or the Vanek style in some certain senses,

01:05:02.800 when it comes to the connection of the king to the land,

01:05:05.920 and even the Angelos clearly have this,

01:05:08.100 in relation to the Arthurian cycles, is that the king is deeply connected to the land

01:05:15.840 and that those two are inseparable and that oftentimes the luck of the king affects the

01:05:23.480 luck of the land or vice versa. And so it was incumbent upon all folk that lived in the land

01:05:30.260 to treat the land with respect as they would treat their king and vice versa. The king would

01:05:36.960 then treat the people or the land, um, as he would treat himself. And it would create this

01:05:42.480 kind of completely, uh, symbiotic relationship. So some folks have talked about the shape of the,

01:05:52.320 I guess you'd call it like the helix shape. Um, is that, that, that also plays, there's the

01:05:57.760 duality of masculine to feminine. There's the, uh, the powers of above and the powers of the earth.

01:06:03.140 So the sky and the earth, between the king and the land, or the people and the king, or the people and the land, there's a lot of expression in that symbol representing all of those forces kind of coalescing inward and growing better and stronger out of being able to gestate.

01:06:27.100 being able to um get to the point where just before it becomes stagnation and then then the

01:06:34.880 power of the people the power of the king the power of the land all explode and all bring forth

01:06:40.240 into fruition all the goodness of all of those cycles being maintained so this this rune is huge

01:06:47.700 it has a ton of history a lot of different angles you could take it at um from the english and the

01:06:53.220 Swedes, but when we, when you get it in rune readings, oftentimes what it means is it means

01:06:57.960 that it's, you have to stop. It's telling you that you're pushing too hard. You're, um, you're

01:07:03.720 ill prepared for the events that are coming ahead of you. You have not taken the proper steps and

01:07:08.420 you miss something. So you have to stop reassess and figure out what it is exactly that you did

01:07:14.080 wrong or what you missed before you can proceed again. So a lot of it processes that are internal

01:07:20.960 cycles that are more internal uh than say external cycles of of deed uh it's it's almost

01:07:29.840 like a calling of there's there's a time there's something wrong there's something amiss and you

01:07:35.260 need to get it in order to make sure that everything flows out from this room so i've

01:07:41.600 mentioned this before to folks. The rune reading is very specific to the one who casts the runes

01:07:52.620 or certainly to the one who interprets the runes or the one who pulls the runes. It's interesting

01:07:58.680 because Svon and I would read that rune differently in our pulls. Honestly, I believe if Svon and I

01:08:03.640 were making the pulls, we'd pull correctly according to what we would do, but it gets

01:08:07.760 displayed in a little bit different rooms. Whenever I've seen that in a

01:08:11.600 dividentory sense, I've always, I say always, I've typically interpreted 0.99

01:08:17.680 that as now's not the right time, but it will be, as the idea of planting a

01:08:29.860 seed that's not going to sprout until the future, but as a hopeful omen, not

01:08:35.700 that, hey, what you did isn't working, but no, just give it time. It needs time to germinate.

01:08:40.880 It needs time to sprout. And that's kind of what I've done when I've used that in a divinatory

01:08:47.060 sense. So that's interesting. I also want to make note, y'all heard that horn. I appreciate that.

01:08:54.640 That horn was Zachary Phelps telling us, well, for $20 informing us of Charlie making a $50

01:09:03.760 donation. So Daryl, your challenge to get that up to 50 has been met and exceeded up to 75

01:09:11.220 towards the home of Victory Sigurhan. And Zach says, let's bump that up. Let's see if we can

01:09:17.960 get it. So I am all for that. Let's see if we can do it. And thank you guys so much for being

01:09:23.060 generous. We have some questions stacking up a little bit. So I want to answer a few of those

01:09:28.980 and get some of those going. First one of those is actually from last week, I guess it got asked

01:09:37.660 right as I was shutting the stream down. So from last week, the Wolf Throne, Matt,

01:09:50.500 what was your experience living in Alaska in regards to personal safety? I hear the crime

01:09:56.500 rate there is extremely high. It is, but it's deceptive. For the vast majority of, I was in

01:10:10.340 Alaska for 33 years. I was born and raised in Anchorage. Anchorage, Alaska was a really nice

01:10:19.320 city growing up. I would say probably until 2005 or so, it was a really nice, relatively low crime

01:10:31.060 city. One of the things, we were enriched with several waves of diversity, and we saw a

01:10:44.540 corresponding rise in crime rates, especially amongst the Polynesian community in Anchorage 1.00

01:10:55.040 in early, by 2010 and certainly up until I left in 2014. It was kind of unheard of,

01:11:06.520 but we were getting there to where just about every week there was a murder. And that's huge

01:11:11.500 for Anchorage. But Anchorage, when I was leaving, was about a 600,000 person city.

01:11:21.160 But honestly, a lot of that didn't really affect. One thing that you see, depending upon how

01:11:26.460 the type of crime and what communities it's related to, is who ends up being the perpetrators

01:11:35.960 and the victims of said criminality.

01:11:38.140 For example, I'm in Reno right now,

01:11:40.940 but most of the violent crime tends to be 1.00

01:11:45.060 in the Hispanic community 0.70

01:11:48.260 and it tends to be drug related.

01:11:49.880 So if you are not involved in the drug trade,

01:11:56.380 it's not like it spills over very often

01:11:59.940 to innocent bystanders, to families,

01:12:03.760 to people that aren't involved in that lifestyle.

01:12:05.960 So if you're going to have a crime rate or high crime, I suppose that's the way to have it.

01:12:12.520 In Anchorage, really, I didn't have to worry about my personal safety very much.

01:12:17.040 You know, you can walk through most parts of town.

01:12:18.880 You knew the neighborhoods that you wanted to be careful in.

01:12:21.460 But again, there were rival people involved in other criminality that were competition with each other.

01:12:28.280 And if that wasn't part of your lifestyle, you very often weren't in a dangerous spot.

01:12:34.520 One of the other things about Alaska a lot of people don't understand that skews the crime statistics. 0.58

01:12:41.420 So much of the crime in Alaska, and this is really unfortunate, is in the Native community, and it's out in what in Alaska we would call the bush.

01:12:51.000 It's in the villages that are outside of the road system.

01:12:54.740 And you see epidemic alcoholism and hopelessness there.

01:12:59.540 And unfortunately, there is generations and it sexual predation tends to be a generational thing that is passed down, unfortunately, by abuse and previous generations and incestuous sexual abuse in the Alaska.

01:13:27.420 alaska native villages is shockingly high and so per capita the domestic violence and

01:13:38.140 sexual crimes are even knowing that sexual crimes are notoriously underreported are it's just it's

01:13:46.560 a shockingly high amount and last time i checked it was the highest in the country per capita that

01:13:51.580 way so that's very very unfortunate but that's the kind of crime a lot was going on there so i

01:13:56.880 really didn't. Again, that didn't really affect me or my community in that way. But there's been

01:14:06.200 some donation activity while I was breaking down Alaskan crimes. So we were just bought three

01:14:18.840 coffees by Matthew Gordon. Thank you for the coffees. We appreciate those. We will

01:14:25.000 solidify those coffees into dollars and put them towards Sigurheim. Thank you for that. We appreciate

01:14:31.240 it. What do we got on the next question? Possibly more topical to the runes tonight. We'll see.

01:14:44.640 Next one from Finn Wraith. Do you guys like candy corn? It's not topical to the runes,

01:14:51.460 but it is seasonally topical. Although I didn't get any this, uh, this year. I, I, I am. I enjoy

01:14:58.060 candy corn. I don't think it would be something that I sought out. Um, it is not, uh, not my

01:15:05.660 favorite candy, but if I had a bowl of candy corn in front of me, I would make myself sick.

01:15:11.720 Svon, do you enjoy candy corn? Um, not a particular fan of it. No. Uh, I find it to be

01:15:20.040 that candy that kind of drifts to the bottom of the bowl or the bottom of the bag uh i so the only

01:15:29.540 this i joke about this but the only good use i've ever found sometimes of candy corn is to actually

01:15:35.700 put it into a really hot cup of coffee uh and melt it in there with a spoon stirring it a couple of

01:15:43.940 pieces um actually isn't that bad kind of sweetens up the coffee but um outside of that i'm not a

01:15:50.880 i'm not a huge fan i i have a notorious sweet tooth so you know i i can get fancy on which

01:16:01.500 candy i like and which candy i don't like but the best candy is the candy that's in front of me

01:16:06.120 All right. So this was talked about earlier, but I want to acknowledge the question. Is Ingwaz named after a God? Yes, it is. We spoke about that as it's named after one of the names of Lord Frayer.

01:16:36.120 from eric the red light

01:16:42.480 do you like the ingma's with or without the arms better um i mentioned i like the one

01:16:51.440 with the arms the one that um we're kind of used to illustrate it tonight at least in shape

01:16:58.520 if not in hue swan what were which which of the two versions do you prefer

01:17:05.860 i i to be honest my preferred way except for a couple of younger futhark iterations is the

01:17:15.020 anglo-saxon and the anglo-saxon um or anglo-phrygian futhark has the uh the the helix top

01:17:23.720 and bottom so i prefer that because when you look at the kilver stone it is just a square

01:17:29.400 um and even in the uh you know in the that's done a break day it's it's kind of a small

01:17:35.720 um version of the yura rune in that one in which the yura rune is actually um it's it's kind of

01:17:45.180 connected and and locked um so it it would make sense in the idea that the yura rune is an

01:17:52.780 extension of the Inguaz rune, but I prefer the double helix top and bottom. That's my favorite.

01:18:00.960 And that's why I wanted to use that one in the Folk Fruthark. That's the one we use for Inguaz 1.00

01:18:06.120 in the Folk Fruthark as well. Yes, it is. I want to acknowledge Bill Comer, who gave us $5. 0.95

01:18:18.040 It says, hail the gods, hail the folk, hail the AFA.

01:18:21.760 Thanks for being here to welcome us all home.

01:18:24.260 Absolutely.

01:18:24.960 There's nothing we'd rather be doing.

01:18:27.720 We are honored to be here and to share victory and the home of victory with all of our amazing folks.

01:18:37.660 With that, we are at $95.

01:18:43.440 We are $5 from that $100 goal on raising up those funds for Sigerheim.

01:18:49.580 Thank you guys so much.

01:18:51.140 I appreciate the help.

01:18:53.760 You guys are awesome.

01:18:54.640 Thank you.

01:18:55.620 There's tons of candy questions or comments coming in.

01:19:01.680 Halloween is such an interesting time in relation to winter nights.

01:19:07.260 And I know a lot of people are kind of wondering about that, too, about the interplay.

01:19:13.440 between um uh winter nights and and and i guess halloween or sowing and all that stuff there's

01:19:22.060 been a lot of kind of chatter about that over over the weekend so it is it is from the same

01:19:31.200 root it's a very similar concept um the modern let's get a bunch of candy is not but it's awesome

01:19:41.100 So we're going to keep that tradition because it's amazing.

01:19:44.820 And I've been getting a bunch of dad tax candy today.

01:19:47.560 So I've been reaping the dad tax.

01:19:51.960 Honestly, very proud of Aubrey.

01:19:53.480 She has been very generous in proactively sharing her candy that she got last night.

01:20:00.020 She got so much she couldn't carry it all.

01:20:03.480 It was getting too heavy for her.

01:20:04.840 So she did okay.

01:20:11.100 Our next question is from Goethe Trent East, and I think he's just trying to initiate discord amongst Svon and myself here.

01:20:29.500 We're going to put it out there anyway, because it's obviously going to come up tonight, and I think it's worth, I don't know, mentioning and putting into a little bit of context. 0.99

01:20:41.100 Yeah, he's talking about your dag-ass heresy. 1.00

01:20:44.740 Oh, why are we getting to those? 1.00

01:20:46.660 We haven't gotten to that yet.

01:20:48.720 Ask Trent, but I'm answering the questions in the order in which they are asked.

01:20:54.420 I can just picture him at his house just, like, waiting for it,

01:20:57.940 and it's not happening fast enough, so he's got to shoot it out there.

01:21:02.840 Rubbing his fingers together in glee.

01:21:05.280 um but that said why according to go through trend east why does the afa put othala at the end

01:21:12.720 rather than daggers why do we do that swan okay so it's not actually a great controversy i i i try

01:21:25.140 to look at things with a complete explanation and i think the major reason to answer your question

01:21:30.260 as to why the AFA. Hold on, flag on the play. I'm going to pause for just a sec. For those of you

01:21:35.100 that don't know, this is just kind of a fun little inside thing. Me and Svon get grumpy over because

01:21:41.020 sometimes you'll find it both ways. And one of us has always been under the one tradition and the

01:21:47.460 other one, you know, is used to using it in the different order. So we kind of, you know, playfully

01:21:52.460 bicker back and forth about that. But that's, that's the backstory that we're, we're chuckling

01:21:56.940 about all right please proceed well and i i even outside of say that this has been a controversy

01:22:05.260 in ausa true for a very long time um in relation to the runes as far back as i can remember people

01:22:11.420 have asked about you know which which one does it end and i really wanted to approach this with

01:22:17.980 some clarity of form and what we have is the reason why the afa uses othala at the end is

01:22:26.840 because edrid thorson seemed in his genesis of bringing about the runes to modern audiences

01:22:35.000 synthesized the runes together much like the way um in the folk futhark we use different symbols

01:22:44.420 of the, uh, the entirety from all over all the Futharks. We've synthesized them together. It

01:22:51.780 would seem that, um, Dr. Stephen Flowers did the same thing, but he did it in the positioning. So

01:22:59.680 the Kelver stone is the oldest carving of, of a complete Futhark. And it is worth noting, 0.97

01:23:07.860 as we mentioned before, that the runes Iwaz and Perthro are flipped on the Kelverstone.

01:23:19.020 And it ends with Othala. And it is the oldest carved version. They're speculating by about

01:23:25.680 a hundred years. The next one is the Vatstenebrekte. And the Vatstenebrekte has

01:23:33.640 uh the current form that we have except that it ends in dagas the anglo-saxon futhark also or

01:23:42.580 futhark ends with dagas but continues on with its extra runes i think that um dr flowers was trying

01:23:52.140 to synthesize both of those together to not allow them to rule one versus the other so he flipped

01:24:01.840 the, or kept the Vat Stenebrekte up until the last, and then flipped the last two to where

01:24:09.600 Othala was like the Kelverstone. So it's not without merit because the Kelverstone exists

01:24:14.740 and the Kelverstone is real. Um, it's just that it caused a lot of, uh, conflict as to exactly

01:24:23.200 how that was brought about. And I think the, it was exacerbated by kind of, um, there's always

01:24:29.160 been like some levels of scholarly joking or there's there was like there was uh i remember

01:24:35.260 in the 90s people were like pro edward thorson but then freya aswin came out and hers ended with

01:24:42.840 dagas and she had some wiccan influences so that was just wiccany crap that was you know that she

01:24:50.000 was doing but in reality the vat stenebrekte is absolutely an established futhark that ends in

01:24:56.760 dagas, and so does the Anglo-Saxon futhorc, if you don't count the last eight.

01:25:05.700 But the Calverstone is also very substantial. So the overall, I think, reasoning is the

01:25:14.500 interpretation at the end. Does the cycle repeat, or is there an attainment of the sacral home?

01:25:20.400 um and i i guess that's a a matter of debate and i i think more metaphysically it'd be it has more

01:25:28.260 value to state that the home is attained the the spiritual home the spiritual zenith is is reached

01:25:34.780 um but when we talk about runic divination and certain things there i think there are people

01:25:41.260 who pull from different schools and that that's really the source of what they're pulling from

01:25:45.880 is, is there Dr. Stephen Flowers' synthesized version of both of those Futharks, or is it

01:25:55.020 generally people just using the Vat Stenebrechti? Because I've never met anybody

01:25:58.580 who uses the Kelverstone Futhark as it is written in its order completely, including

01:26:04.060 Ewaz and Perthro being flipped. So, you know, I think it's kind of an overall,

01:26:12.980 an interesting debate and story, but laying it out there, that's, that's what we have as sources.

01:26:20.760 And a lot of people don't even really know about that. The, uh, the Vat Stenebrekte was a,

01:26:25.960 or Bractiat, I don't know if I'm saying that right, is a piece of jewelry that was printed with

01:26:31.640 the, uh, Futhark in its entirety, except Dagaz was covered by a, a pinch point. Um, and again,

01:26:41.000 the anglo-saxon futhoric poems are written with othala then dagas but the calver stone

01:26:48.280 has two of them flipped and so that throws a lot of what people were already going on

01:26:56.160 into it into a tailspin and i think that that uh dr edward or dr uh flowers edward thorson

01:27:03.640 his pen name, was trying to synthesize those to meld them together, to kind of ease the conflict

01:27:11.000 that the Kilverstone created. I mean, Svon's take on the archaeological evidence is obviously

01:27:27.540 completely sound and well-founded. But I think that's a, it's a very sterile way of

01:27:38.120 approaching Dr. Flowers' choices in his rune situation. One of the things that I think is

01:27:47.880 really important, I mean, that is perhaps factually the result, but as far as motivations go,

01:27:54.340 um it's important to bring up a few things most of the runic lore that we have that we talk about

01:28:07.000 roots back to in a significant way dr flowers and his um conceptualization of our runes and

01:28:19.440 their meanings is distilling that and establishing that in the modern age i mean as you've seen

01:28:28.320 we're we're not basing our runic understanding on those rune poems in lots of different ways

01:28:34.240 there may be a reference there that we can tie in but a lot of those are very mysterious and

01:28:39.120 don't really approach the mystery that we've seen is contained in the power of the rooms

01:28:43.680 um dr flowers is one of the few people involved in the the re-emergence of alsatru that

01:28:54.800 is very well versed in both worlds in the sense that he is a lettered

01:29:02.320 academic he's a doctor of germanic studies i believe

01:29:06.320 and was a university professor in it

01:29:11.740 and in adjacent things

01:29:13.440 while also having decades as a practicing,

01:29:18.180 because of the way he goes about things,

01:29:23.400 I don't want to call it Ausatru,

01:29:25.200 but a practicing Vicky,

01:29:31.340 a practicing pagan for, you know, for decades. Shoot, for well over 40 years now.

01:29:43.520 And in doing that, he has studied the runes. He has studied every bit of empirical knowledge that

01:29:52.740 we have gathered to this point about the runes, historically, linguistically, archaeologically.

01:29:58.740 but beyond that he has magically approached the rooms he's approached them through ritual he's

01:30:06.360 approached them through um seeking wisdom from the all father he's approached them in a spiritual

01:30:13.260 context for all this time and studied them and embodied them and learned from them and his

01:30:19.020 wisdom taught him that this is the correct order for those rooms to uh to be in and to be utilized

01:30:24.640 And I don't think that's just a calculation to make things work well.

01:30:29.680 I think there's a spark of inspiration there that it would be unfair to not acknowledge.

01:30:39.540 And that said, that's not a moral endorsement of the man or an endorsement of all of his spiritual ideas.

01:30:47.140 It is to say that what he chose to devote his life foremost to being an expert of, and the fact that in that process, so much time was spent reaching out to Odin for inspiration on it, I believe very much that he was guided to that ordering.

01:31:06.580 And it's an ordering that's really shaped how we've used the runes for the entirety of the Ostru Folk Assembly and Free Assembly.

01:31:13.680 so that's why we stick to that ordering um is because the foundation that was laid for us and

01:31:22.720 that served us so very well for you know with dr flowers for with dr flowers ordering of the runes

01:31:29.860 for trying to be more exact but you know almost 50 years now

01:31:35.820 so that's that's why we stick to that in the way that we do

01:31:40.980 so let's stop there and move on to our second room that we'll be discussing tonight actually

01:31:54.760 let me check all right I want to make sure I'm not I'm acknowledging any donations that we got

01:32:01.760 we don't got any right now but I'm sure more will come I would like us to start

01:32:06.880 and as we just discussed which order we're doing them in swan could you tell folks who've never

01:32:15.220 who are unfamiliar about the mystery of dagas so dagas is the day room um this the reconstruction

01:32:28.880 of the name comes from the word D-A-G or day, the coming of the dawn or the day, specifically

01:32:43.440 the day actually, because it doesn't reference the dawn, but the allocation of from darkness

01:32:52.180 into light, I think is one of the key factors that's worth noting about this room. This

01:32:58.800 rune is about a movement from the time just before dawn to the rising sun and the uh the

01:33:11.920 encroaching light of daylight and this this rune has a lot of meanings about transitional um

01:33:20.160 transference but there's also a lot of meaning in the idea of um coming to truth

01:33:27.280 the shadows being abolished um and and being vanquished away uh all things coming into light

01:33:35.680 um oftentimes this rune is a rune that boons an end of of something a cycle and that end is coming

01:33:45.760 to light and that light is glorious so this rune really does encompass the um that the efforts that

01:33:58.400 were brought to receive the rune or that the rune comes about as a beacon in your readings

01:34:04.000 those have a tendency to mean that the the cycle is completing and the the fruition of the of the

01:34:11.920 cycle is coming to realization. Another time is that this rune has a lot to do with secrecy that

01:34:20.420 is binding things together, is about to come to light. I, in my personal experiences with this

01:34:27.720 rune, have found it to mean that certain mysteries or certain details of the things that flow in our

01:34:37.360 lives are not always seen. Oftentimes that's the reason why you're, you know, seeking guidance from

01:34:44.000 the runes and learning their interpretations is this rune represents that those things are going

01:34:51.480 to come to light. Perhaps oftentimes in my notes and things, when I get this rune, the rune shows

01:34:58.440 up in details that were parallel to the time. And I had no idea they were going on. And then suddenly

01:35:06.220 I got this insight that explained motivations and the reason why things happened, things that I had

01:35:11.880 no idea of fully seeing. And in a way it's like the runes are, are, are stating that there are

01:35:18.320 other forces going on that cannot be just simply interpreted at this moment, but will come to light

01:35:24.660 as you, uh, you know, progress further, um, in your deeds and in your actions. So this rune

01:35:32.300 is deeply connected to that. It could be said that this rune, of course, is also connected to

01:35:40.520 a god. Deir, the son of Delingur and Nott, is seen as a harbinger of light.

01:35:54.520 Often I refer to him as the heavenly warden, that there are six of them.

01:35:59.300 um but in overall in the meanings of the of the uh of the runes this rune isn't often

01:36:07.060 angled that way uh oftentimes it's not portrayed that way though it very well could be um you know

01:36:15.420 when we we talk about the separation between light and the sun that's another interesting

01:36:21.280 thing is that light and warmth as it is in pertaining to the sky and the earth is oftentimes

01:36:30.060 seen as different than perhaps the heat and the flame of the sun far away or you know a spark of

01:36:39.280 must spell or the needing of a shield to keep it in in uh encapsulation versus the way heat and

01:36:48.320 light interacts with us here and that's worth i think that's a very advanced notion that our

01:36:55.040 ancestors had um because very often we you know we we only think of one to the other but clearly

01:37:02.480 the uh the connection between our atmosphere um and light and warmth is an interesting uh even on

01:37:10.880 a scientific level uh the way it interacts with our world so light is about changing the heavens

01:37:17.760 it's about changing the landscape it's about um seeing beyond the shadows and ultimately moving

01:37:25.680 um in the correct course or having things come to full completion and i mean it's a pretty cut

01:37:32.000 and dry rune it's very very hard to um to you know mistake this um if you know if we're talking

01:37:40.080 about in the elder futhark of course this is rune 23 in the anglo-saxon futhark this is rune 24.

01:37:46.480 so the numbering system might throw people off if your divinational practice requires

01:37:53.820 that the numbers be congruent throughout different futharks but as far as the stories go

01:38:00.160 the ultimate attainment of either the truth and the light or the home and the the kingdom

01:38:07.320 I think both of these runes kind of in a funny way encapsulate very much the same thing when we're talking about the completion or the overall attainment of a cycle, whether it's victory in light or victory in foundation, if you will.

01:38:37.320 all right sorry aubrey was uh doing her doing her good nights um

01:38:48.360 yeah i think that it is it's absolutely the day rune and i think that if if it's got one uh

01:38:59.160 i don't know one piece of that it is that but it's also very importantly um the meeting between

01:39:11.180 light and dark or the duality of light and dark um i hope that clarifies my previous

01:39:18.620 thing it is a duality between light and dark if you have to pick one or the other then

01:39:25.280 It is the day rune phonetically, but yeah, that connection between the point which those things meet is meaningful in and of itself.

01:39:42.100 It's one of the things, there's a kind of a special spot at those points of connectivity where extremes meet.

01:39:59.400 There's something special about the solstices because they are at the points of extremity.

01:40:05.100 but there's also something very special about the equinoxes when it's equal distant from those

01:40:12.180 extremes there's something special about and so sometimes doing bloat at night is really cool

01:40:19.880 when it's pitch black and you've got torches and fire and it's just neat and it's atmospheric

01:40:24.500 doing bloat you know at midsummer is really cool to do in the heat of the day when the sun is at

01:40:31.320 you know, it's, it's height, celebrating that in bathed in light and warmth and heat of the

01:40:38.260 summertime is really special. But there are certain bloats that I like to do at those moments of dusk

01:40:43.920 or moments of dawn, more so at the moments of dusk, because I'm often not up at the moments of dawn.

01:40:49.820 But that's very special too, in its own way. And there's,

01:40:54.700 there's something special at those crossroads of transition between things.

01:41:01.320 And that's one of the things that I find most meaningful about this rune.

01:41:10.160 If I were to pick a rune that encapsulates daytime, so often I would pick Suilo, because what you think of that's important during the day is that height and that power of the sun.

01:41:23.140 um this one you know if i were to draw it in a uh in a rune pole i would see this as

01:41:34.420 you know the setting of a sun or the rising of a sun i would see this as that point of either

01:41:41.640 beginning or end but that point of switching between phases of things depending upon where

01:41:47.080 it came and what the question was um but i think it's really special with the duality of that

01:41:53.720 one of the things um i believe dr flowers associates this with with odin in the sense

01:42:05.080 that he refers to odin as the lord of light and the driton of darkness he speaks of the duality

01:42:11.800 of of odin's character in that way and i think there's there's really something to that

01:42:16.800 And that's what comes to mind to me often when I make use of this rune in any way.

01:42:25.620 Nick, could you go ahead and put up the Anglo-Saxon rune poem for this rune?

01:42:46.800 I hope he's got it up.

01:42:48.040 I'm on a couple seconds of delay here on the way I'm looking at it,

01:42:50.680 so I'm going to go ahead and start.

01:42:53.260 Day, the glorious light of the Creator, is sent by the Lord.

01:42:58.420 It is beloved of men, a source of hope and happiness,

01:43:03.560 to rich and poor, and of service to all.

01:43:09.400 It's, again, the Anglo-Saxon has a Christian overlay to it,

01:43:14.360 But it's also overtly spiritual, whereas the others are, you know, A for alligator.

01:43:22.000 This is much more connected with reverent meanings for the runes.

01:43:27.760 And I think that's I think that's worth noting and important in this context.

01:43:33.720 Svan, do you have any more stuff to impart to the folk?

01:43:38.520 Well, I wanted to say, too, when you were talking about your emphasis on equinoxes, it's worth noting, too, that those transitional times do play out in our holy tidings, and our holy tidings are significantly more connected now to the in-betwixt times of both the mid-summer and the mid-winter.

01:44:04.660 And I would say that, you know, between winter finding and winter nights, that is that time of the receding and between charming of the plow and Ostora, that there is that time of coming into the light.

01:44:22.500 Those thresholds are deeply important.

01:44:24.680 And I think our ancestors held that to great, you know, resolve.

01:44:30.640 And I think it's worth noting that like when Brunhild stands up and says her prayer to the day and to the coming of day and to the brightness of it, I think there's a sense of relinquishing from the darkness and being freed by the light or being freed by the sight of light.

01:44:54.200 um and i i noticed off in the side here that someone had brought up about the polarities of

01:45:01.220 light um and you know yeah it is worth noticing you know uh day and not and uh suna and money and

01:45:08.280 and um even to the the mentioning of of ostera um i know that there are some kind of uh other

01:45:16.460 circles out there that try to hypostasis uh not in with ostera but you know i i always point to

01:45:23.940 the prayer of Brunhild where she says, hail the day and the sons of day and hail night and her

01:45:29.940 daughter. And I've always kind of seen that as entailing towards Ostara, um, because the night

01:45:36.460 does give birth to the, uh, the dawning light. Um, so it's, it, yeah, it's, it's interesting

01:45:42.940 about polarities that this rune represents a lot of, um, polarities and their, their interconnection

01:45:52.700 to each other. Ultimately, the cycles of darkness and light and the culmination of light.

01:46:01.820 All right. I'd like to acknowledge that Eric Moore donated $10 to us. Thank you so much.

01:46:10.040 We get to these donations as soon as we can, but I don't think it's appropriate to stop when we're

01:46:14.580 in the middle of something, making a particularly spiritual point. But we try to get to them as fast

01:46:19.860 we can and i appreciate those ten dollars uh that takes us up and over our goal that we were trying

01:46:26.020 to do and we appreciate you a lot uh it comes with a question though it's a question that i think we

01:46:31.620 should start this section of questions with answering when it comes to writing modern english

01:46:37.300 in rooms do you prefer transliteration of latin script conventions or a purely phonetic approach

01:46:49.860 swan go ahead and answer this first and then oh that's a great question it is uh and again this

01:46:56.580 is kind of a debate in and of itself again when we're talking about the the debate between

01:47:01.780 dagas and othala um there is a debate about phonetics versus um say i would say

01:47:10.420 linguistical primacy because we've got to remember it's not only english speakers that are writing

01:47:15.300 um runic and you know you can see this even amongst the slavs the slavs utilizing uh different

01:47:21.060 runic forms to help uh facilitate um cyrillic so that is a great question but as english has

01:47:32.180 changed and i'm going to speak from an english perspective speaking english um even our language

01:47:39.300 now phonetically does not substantiate very well and you know it's the the two two and two uh the

01:47:50.340 um you know meat and meat you know when you're writing meat in runic and you're doing it strictly

01:47:57.060 phonetically you know what is the ultimate point of what you're trying to get across and so certain

01:48:02.740 rules are needed in order to help differentiate certain words. And some people can be like,

01:48:11.280 well, no, no, we can do things phonetically, but then you got what? The CH sound or the SH,

01:48:19.140 which has changed. The Anglo-Saxons did SC for the SH sound. So those rules still applied

01:48:28.140 in variation. And so there's no way to really say that you can purely phonetically ever

01:48:34.060 write the runes because there are linguistic rules that you're applying that, you know,

01:48:40.680 the W's and the V's and which ones are to be used. And it gets even more confusing if you're

01:48:45.500 writing primarily in English, but you're using some of the old Norse names for certain things

01:48:52.160 while writing in runic so i would argue that linguistical primacy should have a higher place

01:49:00.960 than phonetics because phonetics end up causing far more confusion and far more uh problems i

01:49:09.600 know that it's it's kind of nice to say well yeah the runes are supposed to be written phonetically

01:49:14.400 um but when you actually start writing in runic in large amounts which i've been working on

01:49:22.000 ever since we did the folk futhar um it does get very very confusing and again still the the diphthongs

01:49:30.540 and certain um words that you know whether we're talking about ing versus ng or ch for the cha

01:49:40.180 and sh for the sh and uh you know obviously they have thorn to completely encapsulate the th sound

01:49:48.180 but it doesn't you end up doing it anyways so i i uh in the folk food thark one in the lexicon of

01:49:57.000 rules we say that your your language primacy rules are first when writing in the folk food

01:50:03.760 thark because ultimately if you're trying to convey the message to your people they will

01:50:08.920 understand it first within the rules that they were taught the some of the other things being

01:50:15.020 that we've gotten rid of double lettering,

01:50:18.540 and it's not because of really any other reason

01:50:22.720 that it's just redundant and takes up more space

01:50:25.480 and we can complete a lot of the things we need to say

01:50:29.060 without making double letters.

01:50:31.460 So, you know, and double E sound versus,

01:50:36.400 because again, the E sounds in the runic scales,

01:50:39.700 whether you're talking about, you know,

01:50:41.300 the long E, the short E, the long I, the eh,

01:50:45.020 um those rules get a little um interesting as far as the way which runes to use in relation

01:50:51.260 so sometimes it is phonetic like um using ewaz in relation to the word meat like m-e-e-t instead of

01:51:00.800 using ewaz which the one that the horse rune that is met whereas the ewaz rune is a double e sound

01:51:11.140 So that is meat. And then we also came up with a rule that if it's written in English with an EA, like eating meat, then it becomes Iwas and Ansuz.

01:51:24.300 So it's the double E sound plus Ansuz, and that will facilitate the EA sounds.

01:51:32.960 and i know it gets very confusing but each like the word each and the word meat versus meat that

01:51:40.520 you eat and eat itself it gets when you start writing in runic it and especially when you're

01:51:46.500 trying to convey things these are important things that a lot of people don't think about

01:51:51.140 because oftentimes they're only writing runic for maybe one or two words or perhaps the god's names

01:51:56.040 But when you're actually trying to convey paragraphs of information, it's important to have set rules.

01:52:05.880 And so language primacy, I think, helps facilitate that the easiest.

01:52:11.680 Yeah, my with often with things, what is your purpose?

01:52:18.500 if your purpose is trying to

01:52:23.540 recreate how they wrote something at a certain time or a place then you would do one thing

01:52:30.740 if your purpose is to have your thing completely scholastically correct so that the well actually

01:52:38.800 crowd you know celebrates how you're writing that's a different thing if your purpose is to

01:52:47.720 communicate something where people will understand what you're saying, and it'll make sense to your

01:52:52.280 audience, then what's most important is the audience that's going to consume it, and how

01:52:57.540 they're going to be able to figure it out. The fancier you get, the harder that is.

01:53:06.980 And I think that we often get far too wrapped up in what's the right way to do it or not.

01:53:15.920 And I think writing language, it is very recent in the history of writing that there is a right way to do it or not.

01:53:25.900 America's Founding Fathers and up to, you know, I'd say at least their grandchildren's generation.

01:53:35.900 Those people, especially the ones that wrote often, were extremely educated, especially when it comes to linguistics.

01:53:50.540 They were, you know, they could very often speak and read Greek, Latin, French, English, perhaps either read or write German, maybe Spanish.

01:54:05.900 These people, it shocks me, the ones that were educated, it shocks me how broad and how amazing their education was, especially when it comes to languages.

01:54:17.680 And the point that I'm making is those very same people would sometimes spell something three different ways in a letter.

01:54:26.660 Spelling was extremely inconsistent until very, very recently.

01:54:32.760 So for the for the vast majority of the history of language, there's a variety of right ways to spell things that, you know, based on whether your audience is going to read them and understand.

01:54:45.660 So I think that's the most important thing. And that being said, isn't that really a full answer to your question? I prefer to, I like to go one for one letter with the Latin alphabet that we all use to its runic equivalent.

01:55:09.960 unless I know specifically that the audience is in an in-group that would understand why I'm not

01:55:17.000 doing that. The easiest thing is for English speakers who know the Elder Futhark to look at

01:55:22.760 the rune, look up what it means, and go letter for letter for letter for letter. That said,

01:55:29.040 you know, there's a kind of a convention against using double letters in runes.

01:55:34.680 So sometimes I may not do that, but honestly, letter for letter is the best way to communicate with an English-speaking audience.

01:55:45.660 We have someone over on the side who mentioned that the Anglo-Saxon Futhark is the best bet for conveying English.

01:55:55.260 And I think that scholastically that's correct, but very relatively few people know the Anglo-Saxon Futhark in a way that's, you know, have a mastery of it.

01:56:11.320 Most people who practice House of True know all of the runes of the Elder Futhark and the sound they make.

01:56:17.720 You can't say the same for the Anglo-Saxon.

01:56:20.240 So, again, you come up against, are you trying to communicate something or are you trying to be right?

01:56:26.380 And that's not to criticize.

01:56:28.600 There's plenty of times where you want it to be maximally accurate for posterity and not necessarily for communicating something to someone who, you know, reads it as a slogan or reads it as a motto on a flag or an inscription on something.

01:56:44.580 So it makes a difference.

01:56:46.620 there there is something too to say about the anglo-saxon uh futhark that's or futhark that's

01:56:55.660 worth noting is much like the the elder futhark has variant like e sounds the anglo-saxon futhark

01:57:04.400 has quite a few a sounds and two g sounds um it's you know so there's some extra there or like the

01:57:12.760 rune, uh, Ior or Eor, uh, and, and what its usage could be. Um, you know, I, and I, again, I'm not

01:57:22.740 insulting or trying to debate. It's, it's, again, it's structuring and, and discussing about the

01:57:29.860 usage of the runes that linguistically is an interesting topic. Um, I think that the elder

01:57:36.420 futhark works best because we already have rules in place when we talk about like the sh sound

01:57:45.620 versus the anglo-saxon sc sound which is the same sound sh like shield um you know these rules if

01:57:53.140 we know them and apply them so if you write shield and anglo-saxon and people read that they're going

01:57:59.460 gonna say skilled and then there's considerations of like um not only language evolution but also

01:58:08.140 introduction of language like the usage of the letter j versus the the letter g you have like

01:58:15.400 the rune gift which um has the the g sound but you have the name george which uses

01:58:23.120 the j sound so now you're starting to you know in encapsulate how would you write the word

01:58:31.780 georgia in runic and would you use the j which is the also the y or would you use the gifu

01:58:41.820 rune and it would technically and phonetically be sounded out as georgia um you know these

01:58:48.860 there's a lot of uh you know a lot of debate as to where we should go with that

01:58:54.700 um and some of that in the uh folk food art is kind of being already hammered out as we go

01:59:01.580 um but for the most part primacy is first and foremost because it gives the reader

01:59:06.880 context that's already been established

01:59:09.560 all right well let's see where we're at on our next question here okay so and this question was

01:59:21.200 asked a little bit an hour and 15 ago um from morris taylor is there a type of ausitru that

01:59:30.760 is more spiritual than religious like a pre-christian european who accepted ausitru as

01:59:37.640 their foundation of experience, but not committed to any particular gods. There must have been

01:59:43.920 agnostic pre-Christian Europeans. So again, I answer the question for the people who ask it,

01:59:53.620 but also for other people who are listening that would benefit from it. No, there certainly can't

01:59:59.620 be any ausitru like that because it's not what ausitru means. As I've said before, and I think

02:00:06.200 it's worth repeating as many

02:00:08.200 times as I can.

02:00:10.460 Ausatru doesn't mean belief in the

02:00:12.220 gods. It means

02:00:14.360 loyalty to the gods.

02:00:17.240 If you don't

02:00:19.400 accept the

02:00:20.220 and your question specifically

02:00:21.900 posited this, if you are unsure

02:00:24.280 about the existence of the gods

02:00:26.140 and you are not

02:00:28.080 overtly and specifically

02:00:30.480 loyal to

02:00:32.180 them, then you literally

02:00:34.000 cannot be Ausatru.

02:00:35.300 that said certainly there was people at you know there have been people your question is is similar

02:00:46.180 there have always been agnostics who have a christian worldview because they're raised in

02:00:52.900 a christian family or christianity is the predominant religion of the the area they

02:00:57.880 were brought up they may not have any particular faith in jesus or in the god of the bible

02:01:03.660 But culturally, their cultural touchstones are Christian.

02:01:09.220 I think a lot of our recent ancestors find themselves in or around that area.

02:01:15.480 Certainly, there were people in ancient times that probably didn't have a sincere faith in the gods,

02:01:22.880 that liked the stories and the imagery that Al-Satru provided,

02:01:29.520 but that didn't have a secure you know a solid faith or loyalty to our gods so i mean i think

02:01:36.080 there's there's always that um but the point of the austral folk assembly and the point of

02:01:44.560 svan and i being priests of the isir is to um

02:01:50.400 um, further Ausatru. Uh, we, and, and that's, so that said,

02:01:57.280 I'm trying to dig a little bit deeper, um, on the question as if that's, that's virtuous or

02:02:06.240 that's the way to be. I don't think there's, because it sounds like, you know, is there a

02:02:11.360 sect of also true that's also true without the trough for the acr in it and um i think people

02:02:21.260 i think people try to do that but it doesn't work and the missing ingredient is the gods

02:02:29.060 um reminds me of a gentleman that i met at a uh midsummer

02:02:35.260 i was in the way back 2011 maybe and he wanted to create his own what he called the modern

02:02:51.700 church of ausitru but it was basically atheism with ausitru imagery we get a lot of people that

02:03:00.820 see

02:03:02.500 and I

02:03:04.980 don't like this but I don't think

02:03:07.840 it is uncommon in any way

02:03:09.620 there's a lot of people

02:03:11.260 that like

02:03:13.080 a lot

02:03:16.080 of the benefits

02:03:17.700 of religion 1.00

02:03:18.780 but they want those benefits

02:03:21.300 without the commitment

02:03:23.620 and without the

02:03:26.180 hierarchy that i think religion provides if you worship the gods you're acknowledging that the

02:03:41.060 gods are superior to you and that you are in a subordinate role to them and that you are their

02:03:48.100 followers and they're your gods it also subjects you to a church hierarchy to where you know there's

02:03:55.320 order and structure and how things are done. You have someone in essence, telling you what to do.

02:04:00.740 And we have people that don't like to be told what to do. So they try to find ways to have

02:04:07.320 the benefits without the costs. And I think that's a natural inclination for a lot of people.

02:04:15.740 But I don't believe that it, that it ever works. You know, a friend of mine that I went to school

02:04:21.820 with. He was raised Catholic and he has really got on the atheism bandwagon as an adult. He's

02:04:29.180 one of those guys that, and it's funny because sometimes he doesn't realize that he's doing it,

02:04:38.440 but his religion is atheism. And he actively preaches the doctrine of atheism, tries to

02:04:49.740 convert people to atheism and then he seeks you know he wants like an atheist church to do all

02:04:59.060 of the cool things that religion does but with atheism as their tenets and the reason that

02:05:06.260 doesn't work is it's it's insincere and ultimately it's it's it's fake the foundation of religion

02:05:14.500 that makes it work is the interaction with divinity and further it's the very real and

02:05:22.100 committed purpose behind the practitioners to something and specifically to someone or ones

02:05:30.660 that loyalty that's part of ausitru so one part of it is obviously the gods the the the aus the

02:05:38.100 is here but the loyalty part of it is just as important for the cohesion and the functioning

02:05:44.820 of any group if we are dedicated if we're all dedicated together and loyal to our gods then

02:05:51.940 we're united in a very specific purpose and that makes so many of those other cool religious

02:06:00.580 churchy things that happen that's why they're able to happen so no there's never a group that's

02:06:10.500 more spiritual than religious that functions in any way or does any of the cool things that

02:06:17.460 you'd want to see it do the cool things are the benefit that come with the cost of commitment

02:06:23.780 and being held accountable by your peers,

02:06:29.400 by your clergy, specifically by your gods.

02:06:36.640 And I think that's extremely important

02:06:39.120 and something I just kind of wanted to layer onto that.

02:06:43.340 All right.

02:06:44.080 All right, we coming back again on this one?

02:06:46.180 Yeah, it looks like we're back up.

02:06:47.520 i'm not sure where you were in uh your talk when you all right so i don't know if you started

02:07:03.520 are you picking me up on this yes start from right where you started last time when matt

02:07:09.120 handed it to you. Okay. Yeah. So we were discussing about the, the usage of the word

02:07:16.600 ausitru. Uh, first off, it's worth noting that ausitru is a fairly modern, uh, title of the word

02:07:23.900 of denoting to faith to the gods. And it's a really good one. Um, actually, uh, thorn said

02:07:33.440 is probably the most common usage of the idea is like ancient customs.

02:07:41.520 And, you know, it's not really known whether or not our ancestors

02:07:44.740 even had to say what their faith was until there was a outside faith

02:07:50.880 to like compare it to.

02:07:54.080 And even again, this kind of falls short,

02:07:56.500 but the Reconstructionists and folks of that nature like to use the word,

02:08:01.380 you know foreign said or or said or sedian or something of that nature and i think that falls

02:08:07.200 short because that's the customs or the old customs and so you have this kind of uh just

02:08:15.780 again a a flat construction of or reconstruction of customs um it doesn't really speak of faith

02:08:24.140 and then you have the other one which is heathenry and um you find heathenry again this is

02:08:30.980 a very old word, or at least an old word in the usage of the word heathen, but heathenry

02:08:36.460 kind of entirely encapsulates itself off of a, you know, a title or a slur, if you will.

02:08:53.060 And people have just decided to take it and we're going to take it and own it.

02:08:56.620 And so heathenry becomes, again, like this, it means what people do out in the countryside, what people do out in the farmlands. So heathenry also falls short. And that's why I think Ausitru is the preferred middle third position in relation to it denotes faith and troth to the gods.

02:09:21.980 And it also denotes that, you know, by the very word aus, we are believing in the esir or the ausa or the gods versus, again, the other two kind of fall short, whether it's we're identifying ourselves as not being Christian or identifying us as people who are simply upholding the old customs.

02:09:44.220 um i think also true befits that but our ancestors definitely had folks who were

02:09:51.400 at various levels of faith um and understood that the you know going to a tiding and giving

02:09:59.760 honor to the gods was just as much a cultural experience as it was a spiritual experience

02:10:07.620 and i think certain people in the culture had different strata there were people who were more

02:10:13.220 religious and people who were less religious. But ultimately, the reason why they were upholding

02:10:24.160 their customs was because it was cultural. And the reason why they stood up against Christianity 0.71

02:10:31.100 because it was an influx of another culture. But Ausatru is uniquely shining in its meaning,

02:10:38.580 which is that you are trothful, you are loyal to the gods of your people. 0.90

02:10:46.420 You're loyal and trothful to the gods of the Germanic people, of the Teutonic people. 0.71

02:10:51.780 And there's no mincing or getting around it whatsoever. 1.00

02:10:55.320 And that's why I think that like the Reconstructionists kind of fall short. 0.70

02:10:59.100 And in reality, I think a lot of the Universalist pagans just try to be edgy and want to be, you know, heathens or, you know, 0.73

02:11:06.860 just something cool to do on the weekends,

02:11:11.740 shoulder pelts and whatever they're doing to rebel.

02:11:17.000 Those two truly fall short.

02:11:19.580 And so Ausitru is probably the best and more modern,

02:11:24.820 but more focused, more refined,

02:11:26.780 more built for our modern age to address the issues that we have,

02:11:31.940 which is establishing our faith, establishing our customs,

02:11:35.620 having concerns about making sure that we are organized and that we can facilitate the needs

02:11:41.180 of our folk in a modern age uh everything all devotion to the gods is at the at the zenith

02:11:50.140 it's in the upper world and it all flows down from there that's the way we view things as

02:11:56.560 opposed to perhaps upholding the framework or you know flicking off the the opponents if you will

02:12:03.780 It's kind of the way I view those other two camp nomenclatures, if you will.

02:12:10.000 I'm watching the question evolve over in the chat, and I appreciate that because it does add content.

02:12:15.340 I hope you're still getting me on this one.

02:12:16.760 I haven't heard any speech back on it since we had that little drop.

02:12:24.480 This is one of the things, and I'm reading over on the side.

02:12:30.240 And for anybody who's not listening, the original poster follows up with, I feel like my ancestors would have believed any gods would appreciate those who took responsibility.

02:12:38.840 I think I've lost audio. At least I can't hear anybody speaking.

02:12:41.820 As the gods did. Gods would tell them to get off their knees and to not bow down.

02:12:48.820 Why would you think that? How much of that is without bias?

02:12:57.280 And how much of that is you allowing your own baggage and experience in the past with authority to cloud your perception of things?

02:13:09.000 And that's what I really wonder.

02:13:12.520 I don't know if anybody's.

02:13:14.180 Why wouldn't our gods.

02:13:15.420 Get me on the other end here.

02:13:16.760 I don't know.

02:13:17.260 Worship.

02:13:17.760 As far as the technological stuff.

02:13:19.600 God has always wanted to do.

02:13:21.640 God's received worship.

02:13:23.200 Nick, I don't know if you're catching me.

02:13:24.460 I can't hear anybody in response.

02:13:27.280 work man i'm sorry spawns talking over you i can hear both of you just fine you're both talking i

02:13:33.040 don't know why you can't hear each other fair um i hear him i was just pushing through i can hear

02:13:38.800 spawn just fine okay um spawn mac can hear you you just can't hear him all right so my point

02:13:46.320 All right. So a couple of things. All right. My point is, and I apologize about the distraction

02:13:58.900 on that. For you to think that your gods would not want to be worshiped, and instead they want

02:14:06.640 you to not bow the knee and stand on your own two feet and be a rugged individual.

02:14:11.440 that's a very modern understanding in a way that, you know, really wasn't seen.

02:14:21.060 Do you want me to hop back in?

02:14:23.280 Our ancestors. Please mute Svon. The situation that we face in what we do now, and I think a lot of folks have negative carryover from time that they spent in Christianity, 1.00

02:14:40.520 where the authority that they were a part of was abused and not treated well or perhaps a bad

02:14:48.080 situation with an organization they were a part of i think so often that carries over to their

02:14:54.600 religious practice and i don't think that's uh i don't think it's fair i don't think it's useful

02:15:00.240 and i don't think it's ever been really the case um anarchy isn't a thing order finds itself

02:15:07.840 order propagates itself and it's based on hierarchy the overriding theme in any area

02:15:15.240 mythos is order and structure structure is predicated on hierarchy if you're the rugged

02:15:23.260 individual that bows to no one then there may be a hierarchy of people under you but hierarchy

02:15:30.000 he finds a way. It's kind of the natural order of things. That's the same reason that an army

02:15:41.240 is more effective than a mob. A mob can be moved by a current, but when you have a structure and

02:15:49.240 a chain of command and a chain of responsibility, that's how things get done efficiently and

02:15:55.820 effectively. And at any of our ancestors' time, that was absolutely a necessity to live and to

02:16:05.380 get things done. If we're in survival mode and we're flailing around, you don't tell me what

02:16:11.280 to do, I'm the boss of me, then nothing gets done. If our enemies are at the gates and everybody is

02:16:18.740 their own little, you know, army of one, then that's the easiest way to get defeated and run

02:16:24.920 down i think that our ancestors much more often than not respected a hierarchy and were reverent

02:16:32.920 and i think that's extremely extremely important i think it's done uh enemies are

02:16:39.960 and i think that's really important and i mean we could we could argue a lot about it but

02:16:43.960 it's something fundamentally in the afa we absolutely respect hierarchies i think it's

02:16:48.440 very important um that's practiced within our organization ultimately i think to our gods

02:16:55.960 themselves so it's really a fundamental tenet in what we do and as font said people are

02:17:18.440 I'm sorry for the way I'm answering this question.

02:17:42.700 I'm super distracted because this is extremely difficult.

02:17:48.440 Yeah, I'm not really sure what we do from here, if we can get back on track or not.

02:18:18.440 can everybody hear me now

02:18:48.440 I hear a lot of heavy breathing into a microphone.

02:19:06.740 Okay. If you can hear me now, I think we're going to go. Awesome. All right. So I think

02:19:12.100 we're going to go ahead and hit our last rune to get it accomplished if by the time we're done

02:19:24.160 things are working then we'll try again a little bit but i want to make sure we get

02:19:30.320 um all the way through our runes tonight and um i'm going to do everything i can to make sure

02:19:39.120 this is a much better experience next week

02:19:43.500 and in the future going forward.

02:19:51.340 That said, and Nick, you can throw this up

02:19:54.520 over on the side too if you got the answer.

02:19:57.760 Is Fawn back with sound?

02:20:01.840 I can hear you.

02:20:04.140 Okay, I can hear you, Swan.

02:20:05.980 can you go ahead and tell people about

02:20:09.980 there with the sound

02:20:11.520 okay

02:20:13.260 now can you try it

02:20:18.860 testing

02:20:23.940 we can hear you both

02:20:28.240 I don't know why Svon's intermittently being able to hear you

02:20:33.220 it's fine can you please tell people about othala we're gonna go ahead and get done with the runes

02:20:43.880 and then we'll ask yeah for some strange reason i can't hear matt so i don't want to talk over you

02:20:48.720 well he's asking you now to talk about

02:20:51.920 all right i'll talk about othola i i'm being prompted by nick to uh answer that question

02:21:02.460 and i can do that um it's gonna be a little disjointed but uh oh yeah nick you might be

02:21:10.020 they might hear you as well so um yes othala othala uh the the ancestral home

02:21:21.100 the attainment, or the foundation of sacral land.

02:21:26.180 This rune has some enigmatic features, but right out the gate,

02:21:30.100 first off, it's the phonetic, the O sound.

02:21:36.260 And Othala's truly an interesting rune.

02:21:40.660 It's the completion or the absolute of a,

02:21:48.000 or the finalization, if you will.

02:21:50.420 It is the attainment of ancestral land. It's often referred to as the ancestral land.

02:22:00.000 Ultimately, this rune allocates itself towards the completion of a cycle, the attainment of the goal, the connection to property.

02:22:11.420 property, oftentimes it's read as a rune of property, a rune of the attainment of what is

02:22:19.340 to be inherited. And so it has a lot of connections to inheritance in and of itself.

02:22:30.260 But I think these are really far too mundane titlings in relation to the overall meaning,

02:22:40.700 which I think is spiritual attainment and attainment or reestablishment of divinity amongst of the gods, spiritualism.

02:22:51.280 Some people have spoken about the idea that this this rune best encapsulates the Hoff or the establishment and hierarchy of a church,

02:23:02.420 you know, along with subject of what we've just been talking about, that it is the completion

02:23:11.540 and the structure, the foundation, the walls and the roof are all placed together and held

02:23:21.340 in stasis. It is a point of unmovingness, the center of the moving

02:23:29.400 cycles, and this is the unmoving part of it. I think a lot of folks take this really to mean

02:23:39.920 completion of a goal or the attainment of a goal, and the overall mythos of this is a lot of folks

02:23:47.660 feel that this is the attainment of perhaps the sacral homeland, the nation of the folk.

02:23:53.260 Some people have taken it to mean the attainment of heaven by the gods after Ragnarok.

02:23:59.900 There's a lot of deep connections that this rune has towards, again, the ending of the cycle or the completion of the cycle.

02:24:13.440 Obviously, if it's placed in the last position, it oftentimes refers to the space between Dagaz and Fehu again, and that is that zenith point, the attainment of spiritual correctness, physical correctness, even mental correctness, if you will, that has been inherited down by the hard work of all of those that have come before you.

02:24:39.580 um this rune is the rune of the spirit and the land or the spirit and the material

02:24:49.500 um and how they coalesce together um so yes i mean in a lot of ways people do say it is the

02:24:57.060 the blood and soil rune um another thing that i wanted to cover was the uh the othala rune with

02:25:06.300 the feet, if you will. A lot of folks don't realize that that is a German rune, and it's

02:25:14.340 a German rune that comes from a German manuscript from medieval times. I want to say it's like 12th

02:25:22.620 to 14th century, somewhere in there. And in that manuscript, they had, I believe it was 10 runes,

02:25:30.380 And one of them was called Erda. And the Erda rune was not in reference to the Nornir earth, but in reference to the earth. So it was called the earth rune.

02:25:44.380 rune and it was alongside the wolf angle which again uh was completely you know utilized by

02:25:52.180 germans during world war ii and that's because they had a cultural and significant connection

02:25:59.020 to it based off of heraldry and uh the remnants of runes that had survived even well past

02:26:06.280 christianization um both the catholic and the lutheran church really couldn't supplant

02:26:14.020 subvert or wash away the imagery that was kept in these heraldric marks. So it is completely worth

02:26:21.300 noting. And the, you know, the German military has often used symbols hearkening back all the

02:26:29.920 way to the medieval times and the long military tradition of the Prussians and the Germans, or

02:26:35.980 would be the same. But it's worth noting that that's actually the origin. A lot of times you

02:26:42.560 see on social media people will say like oh it's got the feet that's the evil one or or what have

02:26:47.760 you um and again it's just kind of showing their ignorance uh the rune itself though does mean

02:26:55.580 homeland it means nation it means the spiritual nation perhaps the attainment of completion

02:27:02.440 between folk and gods and the upper and the and the middle coming into complete alignment if you

02:27:10.700 will um it's also a very very profound room it's many of our favorite rooms and one that holds

02:27:24.220 a great deal of power um too many of us because the idea of

02:27:29.340 of birthright, of homeland, of sacred space that is ours is so fundamentally essential to so many

02:27:46.760 things that we do. It's one of the overriding concepts of Sigurheim itself and of the dream

02:27:55.620 of that as having our space that's our home that's our sacred center to move out from that that's

02:28:05.140 just ours that we have ownership of the idea of having a space in this world that is for you

02:28:12.860 and for yours is one of the most beautiful things to the human condition one of the most satisfying

02:28:21.720 things. It's one of the things that, you know, for various different iterations of that our

02:28:28.820 people have always fought for and dreamed of and cherished when they had and sought when they

02:28:34.320 didn't, the idea of that space that's ours, our birthright, our heritage stuff that belongs to us

02:28:49.300 and for us to not only own, but to pass down to our descendants,

02:28:54.500 to bequeath to those that come after us,

02:28:59.180 it's probably the rune that by itself most encapsulates

02:29:04.360 what we are doing in the Aus True Folk Assembly, I would say, in a way.

02:29:12.020 Nick, do you have the Anglo-Saxon rune poem that relates to this for us?

02:29:19.300 I hope that you do, and again, we've got a little bit of a lag, so there we go.

02:29:42.400 here it comes. An estate is very dear to every man. If he can enjoy there in his house, whatever

02:29:51.220 is right and proper in constant prosperity. There it is. I don't want to belabor it by

02:30:03.280 beating it around anymore. I think it's easy enough to understand, but it's so very, very

02:30:07.920 beautiful and very, very important. I want to get back to a couple of few questions and a point

02:30:18.700 that I wanted to make, and I do apologize about my last answer. I was very distracted and it was

02:30:23.260 very meandering. Again, I'm not coming at the original poster, although I disagree on some

02:30:33.500 things might, because I think that the position, especially in today's day and age of, you know,

02:30:42.600 people doing things on their own without bowing before any man or God, because they're, you know,

02:30:50.580 self-sufficient. First, I don't think any of that's true. I think there are very few of those

02:30:54.660 people ever in the history of the world that don't find themselves very much recognizing

02:31:00.600 a need for hierarchy, but sometimes it's very uncomfortable to admit, and there's a sense of

02:31:08.720 shame attached to it that I think, unfortunately, there is improper. But the other thing I want to

02:31:13.940 say, if you're not part of a system and part of a hierarchy, and you're just spiritual for your own

02:31:19.360 sake, first, I don't think that is optimal for you, but maybe that is good for you, but it's not

02:31:28.840 good for our folk and it's not good for the future one thing that i've seen in my time

02:31:37.700 involved in also true is all the people that don't want sir all right so i am back i spawn

02:31:44.520 cannot hear me let me see where we're at on some questions um i give i'll give one more

02:31:50.820 one more shot here and then if not we will definitely come back uh hopefully next week

02:31:57.640 We can be much, much better prepared for our situation.

02:32:02.640 I'm picking you up right now.

02:32:04.640 Okay, here we go.

02:32:05.640 So we're in a window now that's working all right.

02:32:08.640 Next question, also asked a long time ago that we're getting to,

02:32:12.640 does the AFA subscribe to Guido Von List's idea of Arminism?

02:32:17.640 No, but it's nuanced.

02:32:20.640 We certainly celebrate the work that Meister Von List put in.

02:32:25.640 He is one of our heroes that's honored with a day of remembrance.

02:32:30.580 What he was practicing wasn't Ausatru, but it was a proto-Ausatru that helped bring us to where we are.

02:32:40.200 It was an important step.

02:32:43.000 I think a lot of the spiritualism and philosophy to it have a lot to be praised and that are good.

02:32:55.640 But again, his understanding of the gods at that point, because it was a reawakening, was not where ours is.

02:33:06.580 And it was in a very, very early stage.

02:33:09.780 So, no, we don't practice armonism, but we do practice Ausatru.

02:33:15.240 And Ausatru was brought here and a lot of the way was paved by the spiritual reawakening that Meister von List.

02:33:25.640 initiated and i do believe very much that he was inspired by the all father to do that

02:33:31.320 um and that's that's one reason that we we honor him and celebrate him um

02:33:43.640 do you have any thoughts on that's fun can you hear me we can oh great i can i i can actually

02:33:51.560 hear you and see you this is amazing um as for yes i think uh a lot of people the armanin style or uh

02:34:03.720 of expression of spiritualism is uh is that isn't it it's an expression of germanic spiritualism

02:34:13.320 that doesn't quite facilitate as a religious, um, expression as more as it might be perhaps

02:34:21.400 an aesthetic or not, not an aesthetic and, and a, excuse me, it's, um, of a, I, more

02:34:29.380 of like an internalized nature, um, one that is, uh, built around self-improvement or self-spiritualization,

02:34:39.860 self uh actuation or awakening and in that sense it becomes kind of a a denomination

02:34:48.040 um of itself in a way i would see it as like perhaps the way runic studies are done certain

02:34:56.320 groups of people follow the runes in certain ways they follow certain futharks with preference they

02:35:02.000 follow divination and meditation and so on and so forth and so in and of itself it becomes a

02:35:07.800 spiritual practice that is more I guess encased in the development of the individual uh and I have

02:35:17.900 seen it kind of practiced and written about and presented as a religious format and I think that

02:35:26.580 that's an evolution of that that some people have taken but at the same time you know Ausatru hasn't

02:35:34.060 facilitated that as it's, it's been growing and expressing in its own way since its foundation.

02:35:42.880 And so the add-on of the religious component within say like Arman and style spiritual

02:35:49.780 practices, I think are, they're on their own track and have more or less developed more recently

02:35:56.940 um outside of it just being more of an an insular thing but so i can't speak too much on it in

02:36:05.680 relation to whether or not i you know my opinions in relation to its spiritual practices but

02:36:12.240 from what i have gathered it seems to be very focused on um reawakening or awakening of the

02:36:22.000 self, formulation of the self, formulation of one's mental landscape within the world as a kind

02:36:30.920 of more of a spiritual landscape. And I think that's a different approach than what we would

02:36:41.560 see as the gods being external beings with willful manifestation that are able to influx themselves

02:36:48.320 into the middle world through the well of earth in heaven through where they where they

02:36:55.820 place themselves at the the head of time um and you know in between them and the well of

02:37:04.260 where time ends um and they you know seeing that uh in a in a mythos sense of spiritual

02:37:13.840 like stories and the expression of it through uh you know our culture as a religion is very

02:37:20.140 different than perhaps seeing um the gods as um components that help facilitate our

02:37:28.160 coming of a higher self an over self or a paragon of self um so that's why i think i i take it as

02:37:37.700 more an internalized, um, denominational practice that some people in, in, in, uh,

02:37:45.260 in the Austro Folk Assembly do participate in just as much as say, for instance, my pathway

02:37:52.080 of learning and teaching and doing divination in the runes. Um, but they're not exactly, uh,

02:37:58.780 one for one in relation to the religion of the gods and trough to them through, um, you

02:38:07.240 know, holy tides and prayer and, uh, outlook as to the way they interact with us.

02:38:15.440 All right. Um,

02:38:26.760 there's some really good ones coming up here. Uh, where are you able to donate? I don't see the

02:38:33.100 Super Chats option on YouTube. So the links to those are in the description of the video.

02:38:42.920 There's a lot of options. Always the default option is you can donate at runestone.org. There's

02:38:48.700 a donate button there that'll get you donating if that's what you're looking to do. But as far

02:38:52.800 as the fun participatory ones, the links to those are in the description. And, you know, as always,

02:39:00.260 you can add questions to those, and we're very happy to answer any and all of those questions

02:39:08.420 just as soon as I'm aware they get asked. It's one of those things you may notice. I know that

02:39:13.740 it's kind of the way it's done is to immediately throw a parade and acknowledge the donations.

02:39:21.260 When we want to do that, we really appreciate them, but it's also more important that we don't

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02:39:37.760 and uh despite as hectic and crazy as the show's been tonight we have you know you guys have been

02:39:44.080 generous and donated quite a bit which is awesome it moves us you know that much closer to paying

02:39:49.600 off Sagerheim and moving on to the amazing things that we're going to do there. Our next question

02:40:00.800 is from Nick. Whoa, Anchorage is 600,000. How does it compare to the cities in the contiguous

02:40:06.880 U.S.? I definitely think us down here couldn't imagine something that size up there.

02:40:12.240 um it's city it's a pretty decent sized city i think that

02:40:21.040 the bigger issues aren't

02:40:27.040 with the city itself but more its proximity um

02:40:33.120 it is a city like any other you know in a lot of ways like any other but the trouble is

02:40:38.400 there's not a lot of room for urban sprawl. So I don't know if you're familiar with the

02:40:46.200 geography of it, but it's bordered on basically three sides by water and on the fourth side by

02:40:53.380 the Chugach Mountains. So there's only so much footprint that Anchorage can have. There's kind

02:40:58.300 of a small corridor that the road goes on, you know, either north or south from there,

02:41:02.680 But it doesn't go far and it doesn't go to other big cities.

02:41:06.740 If you go six hours north on that one road going north, you get to Fairbanks.

02:41:14.760 And Fairbanks is a much smaller, you know, it's, I guess, a city technically, but it's very, very, it's relatively small in terms of city.

02:41:23.540 And then outside of that, you're driving 10 plus hours to Whitehorse, Yukon territories, which also isn't a huge city by any means.

02:41:33.720 And then from there, it's days of driving to get down to lower British Columbia where there's more cities.

02:41:41.480 So it's really isolated. And that's kind of the bigger, biggest difference with Anchorage.

02:41:46.740 It's got, you know, it's got the stuff you'd associate with the city outside of professional sports teams.

02:41:53.540 And that's, again, because it's so hard to get from there to anywhere else to participate in any kind of interconnectedness that way.

02:42:02.360 It's an extremely diverse city, and nobody realizes that.

02:42:06.740 But because it's got Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson right outside of it, it gets a lot of people that come through, a lot of different kind of people that come through there through the military. 0.99

02:42:16.200 um back in the in the 80s we had a lot of uh mong refugees from southeast asia that

02:42:25.160 built a home there so we have a lot of that we have a substantial population of alaska natives

02:42:32.520 in anchorage and then a huge influx since the 1990s of polynesians with hawaiians i think

02:42:42.920 the largest group of Samoans but also Tongans and being a very tribal people they've they've brought

02:42:51.260 you know it seems like every one of them you know every other one is their auntie cousin uncle

02:42:56.420 whatever there's some relation to so they've kind of all come there together and and

02:43:01.240 seem seemingly have thrived um so it's a very diverse city that a lot of people don't think of

02:43:08.580 It's modern. It's got all the nice things that you'd want. Prices on stuff aren't ridiculous. You get outside of town and in the bush where you have to fly things to or send supplies up, you know, on a riverboat, then that gets a lot more expensive. But I would say the biggest difference is how far away from everything else that Anchorage is.

02:43:30.020 but it's also really close to so by the same virtue that it's very far from other cities

02:43:38.460 it's also very close to really getting out in the middle of nowhere any place else in

02:43:44.900 lower 48 that i've gone to hike you run into people constantly and again it's not their fault

02:43:50.620 i'm just as much in their way as they're in mine but you're very seldom alone out in the wilderness

02:43:56.040 In Alaska, without getting very far out of town at all, you're out in the middle of nowhere.

02:44:01.880 You're alone in the wilderness.

02:44:04.340 Because there's not all those other things, there's a lot of wildlife.

02:44:09.100 So when you're in the woods, there's animals and there's stuff.

02:44:12.440 It's not just the backyard of civilization.

02:44:15.820 It's the wild.

02:44:18.420 And so you have access to really amazing hunting and fishing and some really cool things.

02:44:23.020 But, like I said, it's very far from everything else. If you want to do something in any other American city, it's, you know, three and a half hour flight from Anchorage to Seattle, and then whatever you want to go do. So that's, that's challenging.

02:44:36.580 All right. From Robert E. Boy Lee, in what way would an ostrich or cleanse themselves for clarity

02:44:52.140 and peace following an experience to be able to look objectively back and meditate on what occurred?

02:44:59.420 Legit asking for a friend, by the way. I think that's a really good question.

02:45:04.240 It's fine. Go ahead and take the first swing at this one.

02:45:06.580 wow yeah sacral purification i think is the root of what we're talking about in this one

02:45:13.580 that in you know finding a because it's for it's in order to process an experience

02:45:23.080 so that was his cabinet it was you know for peace and clarity following an experience

02:45:31.680 to be able to look objectively back and meditate on what occurred

02:45:35.660 well i mean i would say there's a couple of ways you could go about doing this and thinking about

02:45:43.200 it on the onset is really important whether you're talking about an environmental condition

02:45:49.220 that helps you facilitate um or a perhaps a ritualistic condition those two kind of the

02:45:58.080 first ones that come to mind so i'll tackle the environmental one first um and that mainly just

02:46:04.840 involves components. The idea of being able to wash or cleanse oneself in a bath is a very old

02:46:13.500 tradition. The idea of being able to clean oneself with water that's pulled from a sacred river

02:46:19.940 or a spring or just a river or spring. Sacred is an interesting term in relation to

02:46:29.480 um, location and things like that. But again, this involves you having the ability to even do that.

02:46:36.980 And, um, some people might forego the sacredness of, of the water source being from a river or

02:46:42.520 somewhat, and just utilizing perhaps water that is ritualistically, and that's going back to more

02:46:48.760 like a ritual style, ritualistically cleansed, and then bathe in that. And that's, that's how

02:46:54.920 can bridge those two but before we go into that still there's there's more there's the

02:47:00.440 the possibility of the cleansing of by smoke and there's also the um higher northern climes the

02:47:08.440 purification through sauna the purification through heat or or extracting from the body

02:47:17.960 um i'm partial to saunaing as a purification process as well um

02:47:24.920 but again you might not have these available to you or if you do have them available to you

02:47:28.600 they might not be in the most sacral of settings they might be very mundane um and so i don't want

02:47:35.480 you to think that your clarification after the experience is hinging entirely on these factors

02:47:43.720 oh i don't have a sacred river oh i don't have a sacred sauna you know there's a lot going on there

02:47:48.920 but some people i just wanted to point it out because some people do it that way but there is

02:47:53.480 ritualistic ways and so bridging into that making smoke sacred making water sacred for bathing or

02:48:02.200 washing oneself i think is a great formulation towards perhaps ritualistically cleansing oneself

02:48:11.000 um asking of your ancestors to take um from you so let's say for instance if the if the experience is

02:48:19.400 your attempt is to cleanse yourself from perhaps the trauma of an experience um

02:48:27.400 filling a water source and imbuing it or asking imbuing it with your own might is one thing but

02:48:33.880 specifically asking the ancestors or the gods to imbue that water with

02:48:42.440 the facilitating might of cleansing oneself making it sacred making it holy um and then

02:48:51.360 cleaning oneself and perhaps what you clean with is then placed in the ground or burned

02:48:59.640 the uh the remnants of say cloth or what have you that you're using as a format uh another thing to

02:49:07.080 possibly do is, again, this is going back into some of the traditions that, um, I used to have

02:49:13.160 a long time ago based off of study was the usage of leaks or the usage of, uh, evergreen sprigs

02:49:21.080 in an idea of perhaps the washing or cleaning or, uh, getting rid of the ill, uh, whatever it is

02:49:31.180 that's, that's, um, you know, that you're, you're kind of imbued with and you're trying to get or

02:49:36.260 separate from the idea of taking these, these types of herbs, whether I know like up in the

02:49:42.340 North, it's very common, even in saunas to, you know, use coniferous sprigs to wash or wipe the

02:49:48.460 body and, and, uh, splay the skin to kind of refresh it with the oils from the sprig. And

02:49:55.960 then the sprig is, can be lit on fire. Um, a leak sometimes too is cut like a brush and then brushed

02:50:03.000 on the body or beaten on the body um to kind of separate and these are i'm talking about the

02:50:08.520 mechanics of it um because in reality it all boils down to you uh perhaps taking a physical

02:50:17.560 threshold through the separation from one point in time to another um that could be involving you

02:50:28.360 you know, going on a trek, taking a pilgrimage, if you will, could also be a cleansing moment,

02:50:36.480 as long as it's stated at the beginning of what your intentions are. And then you go through the

02:50:42.760 physical acts that you have set before yourself to separate yourself from those moments. So whether

02:50:50.220 it's, I'm going to wash myself with this sacred water, or this water that has been, you know,

02:50:55.280 that I asked the gods to imbue or my ancestors to imbue. I'm going to wash myself. And then I'm

02:51:00.620 going to lay that, those washing cloths down in, you know, in a hole, or I'm going to burn them

02:51:07.580 or something to separate myself from these things. You could use physical objects in connection to

02:51:13.600 the moments. Um, there's a lot of things, but ultimately it's a, it is a transference of

02:51:21.860 yourself through a threshold of who you were and what you experienced in the past passing through

02:51:28.020 the threshold and by the end of it you are now no longer attached perhaps emotionally spiritually

02:51:34.780 mentally as much to those things as you were when you come out on the other end that could involve

02:51:41.800 a lot of things um again how you wish to go and the details in which you wish to go into that

02:51:48.020 it's entirely up to you. And I would say seek perhaps, uh, GoTar for advice based off of more

02:51:55.080 of what you're dealing with in your, in your local area. Um, you know, if you can make a

02:51:59.840 pilgrimage and walk from one place to another, or, uh, if you can build a, a sauna or you can,

02:52:08.880 you know, do a sacral washing ritual, um, you know, by all means do that, but, you know,

02:52:15.240 work through those, those key points, but remember what it is, is you're passing through a threshold

02:52:22.800 cleaning, sweating out, coming out into the door and out of the door, passing through, uh, guard

02:52:30.040 ways or, or frameworks and, and leaving parts of yourself that you wish to behind. Uh, this is done

02:52:38.600 numerous times in lore including when um say for instance two people wish to conjoin as blood

02:52:45.700 brothers um they are separate on one side and then they create a framework of earth and they

02:52:52.660 pass through it together being kind of birthed from the same mother being the earth um and thus

02:52:59.440 they are now blood brothers so again that that same kind of way can be worked in diffusement just

02:53:07.280 as much as uh as uh cohesion so when anyone asks about cleansing rituals or to cleanse themselves

02:53:25.040 i always ask and i always wonder why what is the purpose what are you trying to do

02:53:32.640 In this particular instance, if it's to evaluate an experience in a meaningful way, I wouldn't want to cleanse myself at all.

02:53:50.860 um i think it's something that people very often 1.00

02:53:56.860 it's a cool pegany thing to do so they think everything needs to be cleansed all the time

02:54:04.960 but i don't think you always want to cleanse stuff

02:54:09.320 depending on the experience if it was good you want to keep that

02:54:14.760 if it was bad and you're wanting to evaluate it

02:54:21.380 I don't know if it's really something you want to wash off you or cast out

02:54:27.380 if what I wouldn't think would be much more beneficial

02:54:34.460 isn't a cleansing as much as a as a centering or a grounding

02:54:44.760 And what I would do in any time that I want to objectively look at a situation

02:54:56.260 and process it in a meaningful way outside of overly emotional encumbrances

02:55:07.240 is

02:55:09.160 I'm trying to think of a couple of different things here.

02:55:18.340 Outside of the more

02:55:19.920 magical things,

02:55:23.180 some common sense things that are very useful in a situation like that

02:55:27.000 is to take a break,

02:55:30.780 is to clear your head a little bit,

02:55:34.020 is to sleep on it for a night and evaluate it the next day.

02:55:39.660 I think besides those very common sense things,

02:55:43.080 some other tools that are very helpful, I find,

02:55:47.940 are going to a place where you have stillness.

02:55:53.040 Going out in the woods, going to a special spot,

02:55:56.380 going to a location where you don't have distractions,

02:56:00.760 be it people be it electronics and other things and to sit and focus on centering yourself for a

02:56:10.360 bit i think runic galder is very helpful in that i certainly find it that way i think that uh that

02:56:18.520 isa is the room that i always go to when i want to still my mind still you know if i'm feeling a

02:56:27.000 certain way about something, I want to come back to the center, come back to place of objectivity.

02:56:34.740 I engage in that and doing that in a, in a special place. And if you can't go outside

02:56:39.220 or do it somewhere else, if you can go to a quiet place in your home, maybe in front of your altar

02:56:43.520 and spend some time calming yourself and focusing yourself and getting you a place where you can

02:56:55.680 look objectively at a scenario. I think there's something to be said that if you do some kind of

02:57:02.980 a cleansing, in a way, metaphysically, you're altering the game board before you've decided

02:57:13.280 on what moves to make. I think that affects your evaluation of things. If you've already decided

02:57:20.020 that you want to clean yourself from it

02:57:22.080 and like cast all those things away.

02:57:25.360 I think that's more of a decision you take

02:57:27.840 after you've evaluated the circumstance

02:57:30.060 as opposed to while you're still processing it.

02:57:33.460 You know, outside of, you know,

02:57:35.060 a really extreme circumstance.

02:57:37.660 That's what I would recommend in those kinds of scenario.

02:57:41.440 That's my thoughts on it.

02:57:50.020 Our next question, a big existential question for both Matt and Svon.

02:58:00.200 Would you say that there is one universal truth, that different ethnic religions approach that one universal truth through the lens of their racial consciousness, and that also true is an Aryan way of approaching that universal truth?

02:58:16.180 Or do you think this way of thinking is universalism? If each ethnic religion does contain completely different truths, could these different truths conflict with one another existentially?

02:58:30.780 If you believe they don't conflict, can you give some clarification or examples as to how these different truths from all of the religions in the world can coexist without causing an existential paradox?

02:58:46.180 it's a big question. So I'm trying to think of, I guess, where to where to start with it.

02:59:06.360 He wants both of both of our takes on it. And I definitely have a lot I want to say on it.

02:59:12.600 But, Svon, I want you to go ahead and take a crack at this first.

02:59:15.220 Where are you at with that?

02:59:20.660 I think the number one way that I have always kind of framed this is that

02:59:31.480 the universal truth is not comprehended universally.

02:59:40.400 I think that truth is failed by many to be comprehended, or perhaps even still in whatever format or way in which they are enacting themselves in the world are incapable of understanding the truth.

03:00:08.480 Being subjected to the universal truth or the universal cosmic order or the universal natural law is different than perhaps, say, understanding it.

03:00:22.300 And I think that's the use of the of the word truth, I think, deeply leans itself towards understanding the difference between a truth and a lie.

03:00:36.200 I think heavily plays in not just on the way that it's being presented,

03:00:43.820 but there's also the way that it's being perceived.

03:00:46.940 And when we're talking about, say, the truth of cosmic order

03:00:52.900 or the truth of natural law or how they are both completely a pinnacle of truth,

03:01:00.000 you are experiencing them whether you comprehend them or not.

03:01:06.200 And so I think what ultimately it is, is are there people out there who try to experience or explain or reflect upon the ultimate truth?

03:01:20.240 And do they make it? Do they make it at the level for themselves and their people?

03:01:26.740 Sure. But are those levels of understanding the same as others?

03:01:31.220 No, that is not the case.

03:01:34.460 And I think that, you know, we see that repeatedly.

03:01:39.120 And I think, too, and most people might be saying, well, that's not very nice of you to say, Swan.

03:01:44.060 You know, maybe you're speaking simply of, you know, primitive people.

03:01:49.320 But I think people of what they consider to be high-mindedness have a tendency to also fall away from or obfuscate themselves from the truth of or the experiencing of the laws of cosmic order and natural law.

03:02:07.440 And I say that repeatedly because I believe that the truth is more about the inescapable effect of things that that both, you know, the the framework of existence, the divine humanity and all things in between.

03:02:26.200 um we experience these and our translations of this the way that we um teach our children

03:02:35.120 about these forces I believe are the best way for us and of course I believe are the best way

03:02:42.180 in general and um I have you know all full and confidence to say it is our folk way so our

03:02:51.700 Folkway is the best. It is the best for us. And I take no misstep in that. And I certainly think

03:02:59.260 that certain people have a, they've been obfuscated from the truth. They do not experience

03:03:06.480 the same way. They do not observe things the same way because they've been completely entangled in

03:03:12.080 thoughts and predicaments and perhaps even in their evolution of things. They end up

03:03:19.940 kind of either you know they're they're uh they become kind of like a midwit if you will i hate to

03:03:27.580 use internet talk but they become so you know the midwit is elevated in in this

03:03:32.940 way of thinking where they can they can no longer experience things um on a basic level or a 1.00

03:03:41.500 completely metaphysical and esoteric level they're kind of just formulating themselves into this um

03:03:48.640 you know my book tells me that this is this so that's the way it's got to be and everything

03:03:52.920 outside of that is just not in the book and it's evil or it's or it's not it's not explained by

03:03:59.320 science it's you know so i'm not getting what i am not saying is is that certain people perhaps

03:04:05.640 even a more primitive stature can um in in spiritual development or societal development

03:04:12.620 or mental development uh can't experience the truth um i would say perhaps they have a more

03:04:19.340 uh or a different way of explaining it um but it works for them in their in their place whereas we

03:04:27.820 have our way of explaining those truths and explaining it to our children and experiencing

03:04:33.740 them and i think that is the best for us um but the universal truth perhaps if you're talking

03:04:41.020 about it in a maybe in a doctrinal sense um no i i think that

03:04:51.020 again it is it is an ex an experienced force order and law and they are

03:05:00.540 laid out as almost like two sides of the road and um some people get it and some people don't

03:05:09.260 and i mean people as in groups of people um some people don't care um perhaps they just create their

03:05:16.620 own roads that they want to trek upon um so i it's i don't know if that's the answer you want

03:05:24.780 in relation to i do not find a connectivity even though we are all experiencing the cosmic order

03:05:32.340 and the natural law as is defined um we are not we're not expressing it the same way other folks

03:05:40.460 are not expressing it the way that it would be even understandable to me so i'm not particularly

03:05:45.180 concerned with the way that they're doing it um sometimes i do find parallels within groups of

03:05:52.040 other people and i go oh i see now what they're they're they're gleaning towards so um i don't

03:06:00.160 find it as being universal i mean yes we are all encapsulated in cosmic order and natural law

03:06:08.000 but we are not equal in both the experience of it the explanation of it and the ultimate like

03:06:13.920 learning of it some some are simply you know in a constant state of just a reaction to

03:06:23.440 whether it's stimuli or just the evolution of state and and we can fall away too is another

03:06:29.280 thing i think is worth mentioning is that people can get close to understanding and expressing and

03:06:35.520 creating that zenith and then they kind of fall away from it um they de-evolve or perhaps uh

03:06:41.760 re-close up their minds based on other things and other factors and um so that that again makes

03:06:48.880 each group or each and even each individual uh not necessarily universally experiencing

03:06:56.080 the reality or the truth of all things?

03:07:01.840 That's about as best as an answer I can give.

03:07:05.160 That's a hard question, so you got to

03:07:08.400 give me leeway on that.

03:07:10.780 One of the...

03:07:15.520 People are not

03:07:18.660 comfortable with nuance. 0.96

03:07:21.720 Either all religions are legitimate or all religions are 0.70

03:07:26.000 false except mine. And I don't think it works that way. It's not nearly that neat and clean.

03:07:33.140 Certainly, there are universal things. There are shared experiences. When I say universal,

03:07:43.960 I mean, I suppose we exist in the same universe in its broadest sense. On earth, we all

03:07:54.180 occupy or all humans, all, I don't know, all earthlings occupy the planet earth and you have

03:08:04.500 to function under certain obvious scientific truths that we've talked about. That's fond

03:08:11.800 mention. There's certain natural law things that exist. There are certain conditions that exist.

03:08:19.600 obviously our sun is the same sun that africans have it's the same sun that native americans have

03:08:28.260 it's the same sun that you know any other creature on earth has so there's certain

03:08:36.280 things that obviously we do all share in a lot of ways but one common misconception

03:08:43.160 most

03:08:46.000 most indigenous

03:08:50.920 faiths

03:08:52.600 acknowledge that other

03:08:55.080 tribes are naturally

03:08:57.480 going to have other gods

03:08:59.440 that are relevant to their existence

03:09:01.680 every

03:09:03.520 grouping of people knows

03:09:05.380 all of the things that I mentioned previously

03:09:07.240 are true

03:09:08.000 we share the same earth, we share the same sun

03:09:11.620 we share the same moon

03:09:13.740 We experience life in many ways that intersect, and there's things that just are.

03:09:22.120 Yet every one of these different groups of people, and the idea of there being a universal only one right way, only one God thing is relatively new and relatively specific.

03:09:36.840 That's an Abrahamic thing that's largely Jews, Christians, and Muslims.

03:09:44.600 That hasn't been the history of religion in the world.

03:09:48.760 Most people fully accepted that there are lots of spiritual entities at work around us,

03:09:58.220 that gods are tribe-specific or racially specific very often.

03:10:04.220 And even the foundational myths of the monotheists are, we acknowledge everybody else has other gods, but ours is the best, and we will forbid you from worshiping other gods.

03:10:21.420 But it's kind of always been an understood part of the human condition.

03:10:25.240 I think, you know, while there are universal truths that exist in our shared universe, that doesn't preclude the existence of a great many deities and tribes of deities that are directly tied to specific racial groupings of people.

03:10:53.260 Now you ask, isn't there, you know, what if there's conflict?

03:10:57.280 Wouldn't these things necessarily conflict?

03:11:01.080 I don't think that the truths often conflict because outside of, again, Abrahamics,

03:11:11.400 outside of Jews, Christians, and Muslims, nobody is dogmatic about their creation myth

03:11:19.840 in the most ancient sense.

03:11:22.300 The truth of the creation myths are relevant to the people that they're about.

03:11:28.800 For example, our creation story teaches about us, that how our gods shaped our understanding of the world, our reality, and our existence.

03:11:42.960 They're not meant to be literally, if we chemically analyze the clouds, they are literally brain matter of an ancient giant.

03:11:51.040 That was never the point. That misses the point. As far as interactions go, absolutely sometimes they can conflict. They don't always have to conflict, but do they conflict?

03:12:07.480 Certainly, if, you know, the God of the Hebrew tribe says that our gods are not allowed to exist, and those of us who worship our gods should be, you know, put to death, clearly that's a conflict, and we have to win that.

03:12:26.700 So, yeah, there's going to be conflicting interests amongst different tribes of people. 0.55

03:12:30.840 That's kind of the human condition since the dawn of time.

03:12:34.900 um i don't just because some religions are valid doesn't mean that all religions are valid

03:12:42.580 i think that there are probably religions out there that have no truth at all to them

03:12:48.100 and then there's probably other faiths that are very valid for their folk

03:12:53.860 um you know i think and picking and choosing through that is tedious and mind-numbing and

03:13:07.860 really it's a cool intellectual exercise but not our job i will tell you this also true is true

03:13:17.400 it is true right and good and what our people ought to practice everything else may or may

03:13:27.300 not be it's not my job to speak on if the african gods are rightly conceived by african people

03:13:35.280 and if those are true if they speak to african truths i don't know that it's beyond my scope

03:13:42.620 And it's honestly, I don't know, presumptuous of me to make that decision.

03:13:50.460 We decide to worship for our folk and our relationship with our gods.

03:13:56.060 And it is extremely effective and beneficial.

03:14:00.280 Many of us have, in profound ways, felt the outpouring of the blessings of the gift cycle that we have with our gods.

03:14:09.220 And it works very well.

03:14:11.300 Is there a time where our gods and other gods and our folk and other folk are in conflict?

03:14:17.080 Certainly.

03:14:17.720 That's the story of humanity since the dawn of time.

03:14:24.980 When you start running into logical paradoxes is when you make universalist claims that, you know,

03:14:39.440 If we tried to go convert all of the Africans, all of the Asians to Ausatru, because Ausatru is the one true faith, then we start running into logical contradictions.

03:14:49.860 If there is space for gods to exist that are proprietary to the individual groups of people, no, and I think that's the natural order of things.

03:15:01.840 You talk about that universal truth, and I think one way that it's expressed in an Aryan-adjacent faith is the idea of dharma, the things that are in flow of the natural law and the natural order of things, things that are in flow of the natural way that the world works.

03:15:21.180 Lots of faiths are, and so the coexistence of those faiths with one another works very well.

03:15:28.940 Many are not. 0.81

03:15:29.960 One of the things that we've always celebrated in Ausatru is that we are a life-embracing faith, whereas Islam and Christianity and Judaism are life-rejecting faiths.

03:15:49.460 I'd say Buddhism also is. There are other faiths that aren't Abrahamic that do reject life and existence as a bad thing that they're trying to escape. 0.57

03:15:59.960 Um, so the world and everything in it is bad and we need to isolate ourselves from the world as best as possible. And, you know, in some methods of thought, get out of this world as soon as possible to go to some other place that's, that's good. 0.96

03:16:22.540 Well, that's completely rejected by Auschwitz. We embrace the beauty that is life in the world around us, and we want to make the best of the world that we have. Other faiths that are in tune with that, then there's not a conflict that works well. Faiths that fundamentally reject that idea, then yes, there tends to be lots of conflict. I hope that adequately addresses the question.

03:16:45.020 that was a good question though it was a very good question and honestly it's a very honest

03:16:52.080 question and one that a lot of people think about you know if we try to be super dogmatic

03:16:57.780 and no literally the world is created out of the bones of ymir and all of the trees are literally

03:17:05.800 his hair and clouds are literally his brain well then how can they be you know well then where's

03:17:14.880 the great tortoise that this other faith says the world's built on and you know what about

03:17:21.040 that's not the point of those stories and it takes it to a place that they were never meant

03:17:25.440 to be understood from in a way that they were never intended our ancestors though old in time

03:17:35.200 weren't silly their brain capacity was just as large as ours

03:17:40.800 our next question 0.89

03:17:47.760 Sigurheim

03:17:50.460 that was back when we mentioned Sigurheim by a name that I didn't recognize and I don't know

03:17:57.600 if they made it back into the broadcast but yes for anybody who might not know Sigurheim

03:18:02.360 which means the home of victory is AFA land that we bought in Jackson County Tennessee

03:18:09.920 that we're going to have a hall on we're going to have a hoff to tear on and that several families

03:18:15.040 including mine are going to live on the concept of sigerheim isn't just that but also getting

03:18:23.440 afa members to move to that county to you know anywhere in that county is within 30 minute drive

03:18:30.880 of sigerheim and to build an afa community to be involved in a shared community and

03:18:38.800 to live in such a way that we can interact with each other on a daily basis and be involved in

03:18:43.680 each other's lives and truly have that idea of the afa village and that's what we're very much

03:18:48.720 working towards um sfan does appear to have disappeared as long as you guys can still hear

03:18:57.040 me. I'm going to keep going. William Colmer says, Paul Wagner explained Ingwaz as potential,

03:19:13.500 a seed, and Yara as potential unleashed. I felt like that was a really good explanation.

03:19:22.220 any info on Frereshof? Yes, that's kind of two things. First, I think that's a great way to look

03:19:31.060 at it in a lot of ways. I tend to look at that seed being busted open sometimes iconographically

03:19:42.540 in a Keynaz way, and in a way Yara is two Keynazes kind of broke apart and stuck together. I think 0.95

03:19:50.780 that's a fine way to look at it. And, you know, I think Paul is very insightful a lot of the time.

03:19:57.460 As far as updates on Frazehoff, we're working on it. It's going to be in, again, either

03:20:06.840 far eastern Ohio or western Pennsylvania. The closer we're looking at it, I would say

03:20:14.620 northeastern Ohio or northwestern Pennsylvania.

03:20:23.880 I talked a little bit earlier.

03:20:26.560 We're getting much closer to being in a financial position for it.

03:20:31.500 Our overall AFA income average needs to come up,

03:20:35.700 I believe at last time I checked last month was like 3.1%.

03:20:41.020 So we're making good progress on getting that where it needs to be in order to justify the

03:20:47.320 maintenance of an additional Hoff. So we need to hit that. The other thing we need to do is pay

03:20:52.540 off New York's Hoff. We're making really good progress on that. We're well above 60% paid off

03:20:58.460 on that. Um, the New York's Hoff loan was 2000 or 245,000. And I believe we are down

03:21:12.140 to, we're getting really close. I think we're down to almost 103,000 that we owe still.

03:21:23.560 I think it's 102, but I think it's very high, 102,000.

03:21:28.700 So we're getting really close on that.

03:21:32.620 I've looked and there's a lot of really promising locations.

03:21:37.200 Again, it's teasing myself to look this early because we're still a little ways out. 0.74

03:21:42.740 It's one of the things I think that, you know, we always have the potential for it to take a very long time to pay off a hoff,

03:21:52.660 especially as we get nice facilities and nice places but we're able to do it much much faster

03:22:02.440 these days in the first 14 months because it's been 14 months since we purchased your top we're

03:22:09.900 already well over 60 percent of the way done with paying it off so that's huge we're making really

03:22:15.000 good progress all of us myself included wish we had it all paid off today and we could go start

03:22:21.200 shopping for phrase off tomorrow but that's not realistic it is moving at a much faster pace than

03:22:27.920 our most optimistic projections had it at so we're doing really good and we're exceeding expectations

03:22:33.760 that way can you hear me i can okay i'm back on it good i know i fell off there for a minute i

03:22:48.400 I don't know if I'm on YouTube. I'm still on the back end in stream labs.

03:22:51.500 I think you are. I see you on. Okay. So, um,

03:22:55.820 this one's for you also by William Colmer.

03:23:01.540 Are we getting a book from Svan at any point?

03:23:04.520 I think that would be very valuable.

03:23:09.640 Yeah. Uh, book. Well, first and foremost,

03:23:13.100 I think a lot of the chunks of what we're doing right now in relation to

03:23:18.260 video is good. I think we're covering subjects and things that, um, I know people want to have

03:23:24.600 a tangible book. A book is in the works, but some of the other things until then, uh, you know,

03:23:32.640 we had a storytelling jaunt this weekend, and I think this is, um, motivated me to get some audio

03:23:40.780 out as far as stories go and then hopefully maybe we can move to um storytelling by video

03:23:49.340 if you will it's very hard to do i've been trying numerous different ways and it never

03:23:54.400 comes out good um so there especially in relation to you know the the stories of the gods things

03:24:04.220 like that that are again until you hear them they are very different than say perhaps the

03:24:10.280 poetic versions or perhaps something from kevin grossly holland or uh even the more modern ad

03:24:17.320 mixture stuff like uh gaiman or whatever his name is um these uh these stories have a unique focus

03:24:26.680 um that we as also true have that i think those other stories do not um really key in on um yes

03:24:36.360 a book a book is in the works and the book is uh focused predominantly on explaining correct

03:24:43.480 cosmology um explaining hierarchy of the gods um explaining all of the divinity um

03:24:52.760 and the hierarchy of the alvar and the d seer and um perhaps you know other uh heroes and even

03:25:03.080 avatars if you will um and you know soul progression and ascension and uh death and and all

03:25:11.160 of those subjects um built around illustrations because the illustrations are going to be really

03:25:17.720 important and the idea is that we want to make it to where it is beautiful to look upon and um

03:25:24.520 that the artwork inspires our children so we want the artwork to be brightly colored

03:25:30.760 it's not going to be like you're looking into an ancient manuscript of some norwegian black metal

03:25:35.000 band um it's uh or or even really just kind of like a booklet we're looking at the construction

03:25:43.720 of it being in you know hard hardback with um nice colors and pictures that jump out so that

03:25:54.440 you're proud and you want to fold it across the lap of your you and your child and and go over

03:26:00.280 some of the stories and some of the, um, the clear and concise, um, laying out of the faith.

03:26:08.560 But right now we're, you know, through the video medium, I think we're covering things and even

03:26:13.100 still people aren't fully getting, um, you know, I guess getting it across yet. So the book is

03:26:19.200 becoming more focused now, I think in my mind, um, because, you know, we covered the holy tides

03:26:25.400 and we covered how to construct your, your, your hero, uh, what a hero is. And a lot of folks

03:26:31.800 have missed those videos, um, on BNS or maybe missed key sections. Cause I was answering

03:26:38.820 questions and I was like, you know, we did a whole video about this, or maybe it was just

03:26:43.560 that they saw the six hour timeframe and we're like, I'll just ask him when I see him just

03:26:51.740 saying. But either way, yes, there is some of that stuff in the works.

03:26:59.620 All right. Any thoughts on the beginning of the Futhark being Fehu and the end being Othala,

03:27:10.820 both kinds of wealth? Absolutely. That has always been, I don't know, something meaningful to me. 0.93

03:27:21.740 And I think, again, when you start, this is also one of the truths.

03:27:28.600 When you start seeing through a runic lens on things, you make a lot of connections and you see the world from a, you start seeing the world from an also true perspective.

03:27:40.740 And that doesn't mean that the runes always meant this to all of our ancestors, but it's not necessarily wrong if it means this to you now.

03:27:52.680 So that's one of the things that is special to me is the idea that we start out with mobile wealth, with the idea of herds.

03:28:02.460 We start out with wealth on the hoof, and we go through the futhark, and at the end, we end by settling.

03:28:12.800 We end by going from our wealth being mobile to our wealth being an estate, to our wealth being an enclosure and something ancestral that we have, that we own, that we sit upon, and that we pass down to our children.

03:28:30.420 from migrating, going through the Futhark,

03:28:34.320 and then landing at a home, at a fortress, at a spot that's ours.

03:28:38.900 And I think that that is a really beautiful way that it plays out.

03:28:47.920 I'm not necessarily sure that's intentional or how it's supposed to be

03:28:54.140 or how our ancestors conceived it,

03:28:56.360 but it's certainly something that's always been meaningful to me

03:28:59.260 as I've looked at the Futhark as a whole.

03:29:03.420 Svan, do you have any thoughts that way?

03:29:06.180 Well, I immediately went towards,

03:29:09.540 as people have argued about,

03:29:12.760 you know, Othala and Dagaz in the end,

03:29:17.560 some people have argued about Fehu being also at the end

03:29:22.000 and that the Uthark theory that came about by,

03:29:26.260 1930s

03:29:31.540 or at least I think his works

03:29:33.060 culminated in the 30s

03:29:35.180 it was a guy named Agrel

03:29:37.260 or Adrel

03:29:38.160 and I think that

03:29:41.480 you know the theory

03:29:43.280 that it was a cipher

03:29:44.220 and that the first rune of the

03:29:46.760 of the runic

03:29:49.220 sequence was

03:29:51.480 Urus and not Feu

03:29:53.320 and I was like wow

03:29:54.480 people can argue about the beginnings and the ends, even though all of the comparative

03:30:01.040 Futharks always start with Fehu, there's a couple of things. One, I think that Nordic

03:30:08.020 stone carving at the time of the runes is very interesting. When you look at languages,

03:30:17.380 if you look at languages that started on stone um they have a tendency to go from right to left

03:30:25.100 because generally you're tapping with your right hand and moving across and so or if you look at

03:30:33.060 like southeast asian writing a lot of it is spiraled because it was probably written on bark

03:30:39.580 or paper and paper could bend if the if the writing was sharp so like thailandese and vietnamese and

03:30:46.600 all of those um runic writing in the stone in stone was done in the iron age of the norse

03:30:55.100 the theory that they might have written on skins and or other things beforehand is uh is a theory

03:31:02.840 but you know as far as knowing whether that was done or not is not really known you know like

03:31:08.160 drum skins and things like that don't really survive very well but metal and stone do um and

03:31:14.480 think that the writing style by that time of the late nordic period they weren't

03:31:23.920 utilizing what space the the rock and the stone had so um yeah i that's where i went

03:31:31.760 to on that one with the uthark if anybody's really interested in looking into that that's

03:31:35.840 that's an interesting thing i don't think it has a lot of validity and again we've already discussed

03:31:45.040 what's that i it's down though we'd have we have to restart right

03:31:51.680 we're back up it's just on a different post again but we're live okay i don't know if you

03:31:57.600 guys can hear me i think i lost audio with um i was here to hear you but i was gonna say

03:32:04.320 if you're if you're interested in the if you could

03:32:12.320 all right i'm hopping back out and back in again

03:32:20.480 matt you are live

03:32:24.320 all right well i think we were getting to the end i hope that folks heard most of spawn's answers

03:32:31.840 um let's pause no more questions guys i've got uh two more to answer i want to answer these two and

03:32:39.820 then call it a night and uh hopefully we'll have some improvement figured out by next week um

03:32:48.660 does the afa strategize with ways to counter de-platforming de-platforming and debanking

03:32:56.780 which seems to be getting more common um i don't know if it i don't know if it truly is getting

03:33:06.860 more common or not my hope is it seems to be getting a little bit less common but yes and i

03:33:14.620 don't want to go into tons of detail on it because i don't think that's wise when you strategize on

03:33:18.980 anything but our biggest strategy has always been and it's the way that we've been able to

03:33:25.900 deal with de-platforming in the past, which has happened many times. And I don't know

03:33:33.640 if it technically is de-banking, but de-payment process-alizing. We've had to deal with that in

03:33:41.560 the past too, and we figured it out. The deal that we have that's really important is we always try

03:33:47.040 to plan in as much redundancy as we have. My rule that I try to tell all of our leadership

03:33:56.100 is I want triple redundancy on stuff. I want plan A, B, and C so we can quickly jump in in case

03:34:04.740 things happen. So we definitely do try to strategize and plan for that. That's an

03:34:09.720 unfortunate reality if you are a traditionally minded person that is open with your views in

03:34:21.080 today's society. And it's very ironic and it's hard for me to wrap my head around

03:34:28.480 growing up as a child in the 1980s, growing up very patriotic and, you know, the juxtaposition

03:34:37.800 between the free world and communists was such a big thing and now if we want free speech

03:34:48.280 it's very appealing to go to russian platforms or chinese platforms or you know any of the places

03:34:55.640 that were the traditional enemies of that when i grew up are now the bastions of free speech

03:35:01.880 and i think that's a sad lesson for us all to you know i don't know reflect on and hopefully

03:35:10.680 is better in the future um our last question to end on kind of a light note

03:35:20.600 of the mema trues ban a true roca true thursa true etc which is your favorite to laugh at and debunk

03:35:31.880 um so i i don't have a favorite of those things to laugh at and debunk because i can't

03:35:47.000 because i am my life is defined by my loyalty and my reverence to the seer

03:35:53.080 even though those people are jokes of humans i can't find those jokes funny nor laugh at them

03:36:02.740 because they're front-loaded with being so offensive um i am genuinely disgusted by all

03:36:10.700 of those categories of creature um but i think honestly at the end of the day

03:36:17.000 most of those people are like satanists they don't really believe in any of the things that

03:36:22.120 they talk about. They just want to be edgy and different. And they're not really worried about

03:36:31.460 those people because they are success repellent. Their very existence pushes success away from them

03:36:43.740 at every turn and i suppose it would if they genuinely worshipped chaos

03:36:50.660 but just half haphazardly defining themselves by how edgy and non-conformist they are

03:37:02.360 if you look at those people they're either completely not serious or they are grossly

03:37:10.360 mentally and mostly most of the times physically ill um so yeah that's uh that's gross it's fun

03:37:21.960 which which of those varieties of um mentally addled folk do you find most fun to chuckle at

03:37:31.120 i think the insignificance of all of them is the most laughable part i mean

03:37:36.040 I think that some people did it or conceptualized the idea of it back in the early 2000s in some strange way.

03:37:46.460 I really hope they're not actually continuing on with it in any way, shape or form.

03:37:51.700 But I do remember first it started off with the Vanatru and the idea that the Vanir and the ACR are not one and united.

03:38:01.780 They didn't even conceptualize the Vanir as being the beings of natural law. 0.71

03:38:08.140 They were just doing it because, you know, Aryans be patriarchal and they roll up in their chariots. 0.88

03:38:15.440 And they're, you know, I, they want to just, they just want to be bronze age macrame hippies, um, that worship the, you know, the big Meldorf, uh, you know, booby goddess or whatever. 0.93

03:38:31.920 I don't know. It was it was such a laughable thing to me because they were trying to basically they had been conditioned by, you know, scholastic people to think of, you know, the Aryans and the Yamnayas or the Kurgans or the evil, you know, basically just getting rid of or projecting, I guess, their daddy issues into the religion.

03:38:56.100 so it's like it absolutely hilarious to me um the rock true and and all of that and that again

03:39:05.420 went even further it was just uh again know that you know these religions you know usurped on our 0.74

03:39:11.860 uh our ancestors and we need to go back to the neolithic because they're the ones that really 0.94

03:39:16.820 worshiped nature correctly and they just they kept it's like you said they they did like the

03:39:23.420 satanist but then it was like oh well you know it's not lucifer it's satan and then it's not

03:39:28.160 satan it's actually the hasatans and then no no we're not going to worship the hasatans we're

03:39:32.200 going to worship you know the the shedim and just keep going and going and going and going and um

03:39:38.740 it's it's really sad because ultimately they're just doing it to on the internet they're doing

03:39:44.760 it so i think one book i remember seeing on rocker true uh came out and um

03:39:55.160 and absolutely just a joke so this harkens back to earlier in the conversation tonight

03:40:04.600 when we were talking about the need for hierarchy and structure and things

03:40:09.000 hierarchy is essential to order order is essential to success at anything we worship the gods of order

03:40:19.480 um the people that constantly flee order and flee having to answer to someone above them

03:40:29.280 continue to try to break off into increasingly irrelevant groups of losers and

03:40:40.900 end up wasting a lot of life and a lot of potential trying to flee success.

03:40:47.820 That's really unfortunate. Everybody wants to be a special snowflake and a nonconformist,

03:40:53.800 and that doesn't build anything.

03:40:59.500 Maybe being on the team isn't so bad.

03:41:02.400 Maybe being part of a hierarchy isn't so bad.

03:41:05.760 And if you think you should be close to the top of the hierarchy,

03:41:09.080 get out there and earn it.

03:41:10.480 Make yourself worthy of it.

03:41:13.860 It might be worth saying too that, again,

03:41:18.280 sometimes the flotsam pools are a good thing.

03:41:21.840 do you want them to be those type of people to be involved in the winning of a team i mean yeah

03:41:29.400 we want people to join us and to win but sometimes people just naturally flame off and kind of pool

03:41:35.500 off into these little cyst pockets and no they do and it's a it's a good i don't know um

03:41:45.160 excretion valve for foul and repugnant things but i really mean this even though it's fun to

03:41:54.700 make fun of and laugh at and be grossed out by i wish all of our people could heal and fix their

03:42:02.420 stuff do i want those people on the team if they and i try to hold out like it would be exponentially

03:42:09.620 difficult like i want them to literally change almost 100 of everything about themselves 0.95

03:42:15.860 but yeah i want our folk to succeed i want the mentally ill to be cured of their mental illness 0.91

03:42:22.160 i want our people to rise towards their destiny and be the best they can be no if those people 0.98

03:42:30.820 are still going to be toxically mentally mentally ill and dangerous to have around 0.88

03:42:35.120 my family and my children. No, I don't want those people anywhere near us. 0.98

03:42:40.680 But I wish that edgy kids would find something to do to win instead of to celebrate how

03:42:48.980 degenerate they can be until their life ends in a tragic way. And we see that all too often.

03:42:55.680 But yeah, thank you guys so much for bearing with us this evening. It's been a challenging evening.

03:43:05.120 So I'm excited to talk to you guys all again this time next week, and we should have some

03:43:11.360 of this squared away a little bit better.

03:43:14.640 Svon, thank you for bearing with us on this.

03:43:18.320 It's always great to have you on.

03:43:22.860 Nick, with all the chaos going on, if you could remember to post the memorial for Alan

03:43:34.080 wittenberg at the end of the broadcast as well uh assuming that we are able to maintain

03:43:39.280 broadcasting through that because i don't want that to get lost in the shuffle of some of the

03:43:43.660 shutdowns so next week hail the gods hail the folk hail the afa and remember that victory never sleeps

03:44:04.080 You

03:44:34.080 We'll be right back.

03:45:04.080 Thank you.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - November 02, 2023

11⧸1⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 69 - ᛜᛞᛟ

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