Asatru Folk Assembly - 11⧸13⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 123 - Völuspá hin skamma

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00:03:00.000 Good evening, folks.

00:03:24.420 I don't know if you guys can hear me.

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00:03:35.140 Yeah, I'm just, I had some audio issues and I wasn't trying to get on if, you know, I

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00:03:45.880 Good evening, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:49.920 I am Svan Harrell, and we will be joined by Alistair Goethe, Matt Flavell, here in a moment.

00:04:00.000 But actually, Nick, can you just through the back channel there, give me any of the event points that need to be brought up for the month of November?

00:04:16.780 I hope everybody's doing well.

00:04:18.260 I know that this time of year, we're starting to shift over.

00:04:21.340 um winter finding winter nights is kind of eclipsed and now or now we're moving into

00:04:29.440 um i'm here to our splote which is a modern house of true um uh holy tide and giving honor

00:04:39.400 to the heroes that have died and done great things um you know and uh conquered um great

00:04:47.680 you know, adversarial situations in their lives right before, oftentimes right before they pass

00:04:55.240 and giving honor to them, no matter what army or what nation they fought for, as long as they are

00:05:02.140 folk. And you'll notice that a lot of folks are going to be burning ships with gifts to them

00:05:09.220 for the, for the year. And if you're connected to our social media, like on Twitter,

00:05:16.020 um and things like that you'll probably be seeing a lot of those pictures um and then we're gonna

00:05:23.360 we're gonna dial in for yule and i know we did a uh a very lengthy yule video um a little while

00:05:33.080 or a long while back i should say and uh we're gonna be discussing the properties of yule how

00:05:40.280 Yule has evolved, kind of what the Reconstructionists think Yule should be, and how our faith, which

00:05:48.640 is a living faith and not a reenactment faith, has evolved and taken elements to create what

00:05:56.300 is the Assetru Yule.

00:05:58.520 So it's a great time of year.

00:06:00.440 I'm super excited.

00:06:02.360 And, you know, I just, I can't wait to hear your guys' questions and field them and get

00:06:08.720 a chance to talk and tell everybody about where Ausatru is and where it's going. Um, oh,

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00:07:04.120 um you can ask us questions and get it straight from al-ziragothi or my humble and kind of

00:07:12.980 uh generate you know general opinion um as uh as al-ziragothi's friend um and

00:07:21.960 you know it's a it's a unique opportunity i think because a lot of people are always asking about

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00:07:37.460 the reality of it is, is you could very well just simply ask and find, um, you know, if within the

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00:07:58.560 episodes or or follow-ups we'll definitely try to make sure that you know we get there um

00:08:05.600 let's see

00:08:07.960 yeah there was the big south dakota uh feast of the einherjar that happened um up there lots of

00:08:16.460 good folk in that area that happens uh oh and um let me see we have uh there is a uh the national

00:08:29.720 event happening down in florida for those who are this is way early but if you're interested in going

00:08:35.080 down to florida uh the national event charming of the plow njortzhof is uh our location for that on

00:08:44.380 east coast if you're in the middle of february and you want to take a break and come down to the

00:08:49.340 uh the orange state of sunshine and um good vibes um and go down there and and prep your mind for

00:08:59.340 what's coming for the summer tide that is coming up that's on the fourth weekend of february uh um

00:09:06.780 that's official too there is a a shift like national events will be uh on the fourth

00:09:13.820 weekend of every month after or following 2025 correct um in 2025 following 2020 or yes following

00:09:25.820 the the new year on on the calendar so we got our calendar coming out we're men we're putting

00:09:33.580 finishing touches on that today on like a physical calendar if people want to order

00:09:38.300 hopefully we can have that on sale for y'all like to by next week yeah that said we're trying to

00:09:48.580 make sure for ease of people being able to attend and plan that all of our Hoff events are going to

00:09:55.320 be on the third Saturday of every month now sometimes Hoffs will have events that are you

00:10:02.540 like over the like a three-day come out friday stay the night whatever saturday and then leave

00:10:09.260 on sunday but saturday will be the center point of all our hoff events on that third saturday of

00:10:14.940 the month except for each hoffs national event which will be on that fourth saturday um so yeah

00:10:24.700 that's the plan and again that's so we can have some regularity and people can kind of know what

00:10:31.100 to expect and plan things accordingly and also so that our members and our leadership that want to

00:10:37.980 travel to the big hoff events at each of the hoffs don't um you know that doesn't conflict with their

00:10:45.660 their home event so that's the idea on that thank you for covering for the first couple of minutes

00:10:52.220 i appreciate that i was kind of sliding i was all set and ready i'd made it admitted just under the

00:10:58.300 wire and then something came up and i had to run for a second so i uh appreciate it

00:11:04.940 you mentioned feast of the iron yard which was last weekend in south dakota and that was

00:11:13.020 it was a really nice opportunity to get some i don't know some personal time with some folks

00:11:20.540 that i hadn't spent a lot of time with before to meet some new people and also at the culmination

00:11:26.140 of the weekend i want to congratulate nathan and ashley erlandson on their wedding um they are

00:11:35.500 ashley is a is a folk builder for the afa nathan is a gothy they are both dear friends of mine

00:11:42.540 and people that you know we've really gotten close with over the past few years uh i was there when

00:11:50.540 They got engaged at Freyfaxi at Baldershof a couple years back.

00:12:00.020 And, yeah, it's really nice to be there for the event.

00:12:04.520 And I wish them all the best.

00:12:07.940 They are enjoying their honeymoon as we speak.

00:12:11.760 Whoa, awesome.

00:12:12.560 Good job, Nick.

00:12:13.480 This is a picture of their wedding.

00:12:14.940 i am the second groomsman uh sitting there so i got to be front and center and as you can see

00:12:23.380 our founder steve mcnellen and his lovely wife githya sheila mcnellen performed the ceremony

00:12:29.760 um yeah it was beautiful time it was it was neat and i was very honored to be able to be there so

00:12:37.300 congratulations to the erlinson's um wish you all the best i'm excited about working with you here

00:12:43.240 when you get back from your festivities ah stuff for today today we got a short one so we'll see

00:12:50.300 what kind of random things might come up whatever's on y'all's mind if you guys have questions in the

00:12:55.720 chat room it works well for posterity's sake to kind of do one piece of lore at a time i know we

00:13:01.340 could stack them on some of the shorter bits of lore but this is a i don't know interesting thing

00:13:10.080 to kind of digest in its brevity, I guess. And then, like I said, touch on anything we

00:13:16.300 might need to in the chat room. I would like to take a moment to just recognize that our

00:13:26.380 folk builder, Chris Savage of Michigan, did a fantastic job this last week on his presentation

00:13:33.660 of our newly recognized hero, Thorstein Guthgensen, and he did an amazing job. That was a very

00:13:42.420 engaging show. Any of you who've seen our hero shows, especially when we don't have an abundance

00:13:48.020 of source material, we present, and sometimes it can be a relatively brief presentation,

00:13:54.600 Um, and that's okay. I think that, you know, even if we don't know great detail, it's something to be said, especially some of our, our, uh, more ancient heroes, that their name has come down to us at all centuries later is very meaningful.

00:14:15.340 And the fact that of the, you know, very few things we do know about them, an act of devotion to our gods being one of those things, I think is also really important.

00:14:26.420 It's important we honor it, but it's harder to get that, you know, to really dig into that information.

00:14:31.860 And Chris has done a great job with that.

00:14:33.840 And he did a fantastic job presenting that last week.

00:14:36.280 And I think it's just worth saying another thank you and acknowledging that.

00:14:42.180 Look forward to having him back on at some point.

00:14:45.340 probably at several some points.

00:14:49.400 Yeah, his knack for hound dogging on the internet,

00:14:55.560 very scant information is really good.

00:14:57.940 I enjoyed it.

00:14:58.840 I stayed and I was in the chat the whole time.

00:15:02.240 And yeah, it was a great show.

00:15:04.620 It does give, I know lore can get one way.

00:15:08.380 It's nice to break it up with some other stuff,

00:15:10.520 but it was fun kind of just being there in the chat.

00:15:15.340 and getting a chance to kind of you know pick y'all's brain from this side of the uh

00:15:23.020 um other top of the show things uh

00:15:31.580 nick where are we at with our njortzhoff fundraiser or uh raising funds to pay off njortzhoff

00:15:39.100 uh as you can see for his graphic we are over two-thirds of the way paid off

00:15:45.340 we are what 69.7 percent paid off as of today we owe 74 000

00:15:55.900 we we owe 74 085 it looks like as of today and that's 98 dollars per afa member if everybody

00:16:07.020 donated right now to get that all the way paid off and that is the immediate challenge before us

00:16:14.860 in order to proceed with phrase hoff so i appreciate everybody's donations i appreciate

00:16:20.620 you guys generosity and yeah much appreciated if you guys want to contribute to that nick

00:16:29.020 put the link up if you're listening to this at a later time uh your donations are always

00:16:34.540 appreciated and we have a link at runestone.org uh donate so that's a thing and i want to thank

00:16:43.660 you guys for that um i think that's kind of what we got so that said

00:16:54.140 what do we need well okay as always we're using the bellows translation for the lord that's what

00:16:59.100 we've been doing and we're going to continue with that as long as we are we are doing doing the edda

00:17:05.260 here so yeah feel free to go there nick's got the link up if you have any other translation that's

00:17:12.860 fine uh we encourage you to use it maybe you will glean something slightly different or

00:17:20.140 there'll be a different uh different lens to view the lore through with those different

00:17:24.860 translations so that might be something to do swan what do folks need to know as we go into the

00:17:31.180 volus bow in skama so this is referred to as the little volus bow and this is a really unique one

00:17:42.940 um because it was in the middle of the last poem that we covered in uh hundlioz um or the the lay

00:17:53.100 of Hindla. And that causes a lot of confusion. Most people don't know why. They don't assume,

00:18:02.540 based off of the writing style, that these were the same poets that constructed the poem.

00:18:12.380 However, remember that we have our stories, and then our stories are converted into

00:18:20.060 disciplined poems so the stories are spoken of um and to that i you know i lament at how many were

00:18:29.420 lost but of certain poems or certain stories uh poets took them and made them in accordance to

00:18:41.180 the discipline of icelandic or even i would i would argue that they were starting to do this

00:18:47.820 before even iceland and in norway um the the kind of proto um rules and disciplines

00:18:56.060 of how to construct a poem what exactly it meant whether you were doing like four knee this log

00:19:02.060 style which is an older style or whether they started doing some of the newer styles that

00:19:07.580 involved rhyming at the end um those of you who don't know swan is going to present the

00:19:13.980 the blue spot in skama in uh creamer he's going to sing it to her

00:19:24.220 uh you know what in the future i would love to do that maybe one day yeah i mean uh in the future

00:19:32.700 yeah and uh certainly before my death i would love to kind of also go down to be recorded as

00:19:38.540 perhaps doing some more obscure pieces in a remer style um yeah there so like if you read poetry uh

00:19:48.780 most of the germanic poetry was alliterative its intention was not to rhyme or to be sing-songy

00:19:57.020 the alliteration was at first about the poet it was a way for the poet to memorize

00:20:06.060 vast amounts of information what ended up happening though is like anything there's

00:20:11.740 always kind of niche um fans and then the fans start picking up on the nuances of the poetry

00:20:21.980 so the people in the halls started to hear and understand the alliteration and understand the

00:20:29.740 sing-songiness and they they uh enjoyed it and then it got more and more complex um generally

00:20:38.140 it did not rhyme like how we perhaps think of rhyming in um you know modern sense however

00:20:46.540 if anybody's familiar with ails um the the famous poet from iceland he actually does that to uh in

00:20:56.540 his poem to um uh i i can't remember how that uh eric or axa it's eric eric the blood axe um

00:21:11.260 he is captured he constructs a poem in um you know uh kind of reverence to him and he does

00:21:22.380 alliterative and rhyming and that's kind of a sign that there was a gaelic scottish um

00:21:31.980 irish uh admixture coming into the germanic alliterative poetry and it's the uh one of the

00:21:40.620 the big starkest examples that you can see where he starts to add ending words that rhyme uh as

00:21:47.500 they go through to create tempo it's really really cool um but back to the poem so a lot

00:21:55.260 of folks don't know if this is a fragment of a larger story they don't know why it was placed

00:22:03.020 in the middle of hindla the lay of hindla um there's a lot of speculation and the other thing

00:22:09.260 to remember is you have the storytellers you have the poets and then you have the copyists or copiers

00:22:16.620 that wrote these things down um and under under the the overall kind of umbrella of like a snorri

00:22:25.660 and and simon um so they didn't do this in their entirety they had help and in that there was i

00:22:36.460 think a lot of mistakes that were made i think there was a lot of cross um you know misconnected

00:22:44.300 wires from other stories because they were focusing simply on the ones that they had

00:22:50.060 and weren't going back to reference the ones that were written or copied down so you'll find a lot

00:22:57.020 of this um happening and it goes all the way around with with um you know double naming of of um

00:23:09.740 um gods and jotens and it causes a lot of confusion and that's why I think that the

00:23:16.180 Ossetra Folk Assembly is of the wisest uh path to state hey these are not this is not our bible

00:23:23.560 this is a uh a work of multiple peoples brought in together but they are writing down the stories

00:23:32.740 the stories that were passed down from generation to generation all the way back to Kvasir the first

00:23:39.320 storyteller that walked the earth so we have these fragments we have these pieces and we can build so

00:23:46.360 much on it but to think that like lord odin came down word for word this is you know the unmitigated 0.89

00:23:52.920 truth is is folly we know it's folly for other religions and so why would we you know follow

00:23:58.820 the same path in that regards so this uh when generally people will separate this poem out of 0.99

00:24:07.100 the Hindla, and they will call it the Little Velospow. And Bellows speaks about how it has

00:24:14.840 no value mythically, and it has no value grammatically, or what have you. But that

00:24:23.440 really shows, that comment really shows that scholars are not always the best people to pull

00:24:31.460 and get verification about religious texts or religious stories, stories in which religions

00:24:40.100 are built around, um, that these, these stories are kind of the lifeblood or the, the, the veins

00:24:47.500 that flow through. They're not the muscle, they're not the bone, um, but they have all the vitality

00:24:53.780 and the spirit in them. So when you find these, uh, scholars, they write, you know, they write

00:24:59.380 their ideas down they can try to they'll even often derail um whole things to focus on a singular

00:25:07.020 thing a tiny little minute detail um instead of kind of again coming from the uh looking at it as

00:25:16.060 the uh a part of the of the whole um this they end up scholarly looking at this and thinking

00:25:22.880 that it's the entirety of everything and that the religion must be built around this

00:25:28.860 um so you'll see that here when he says there's no value there's quite a lot of value

00:25:36.100 um in this poem even though it is very short so we will be able to cover it pretty quickly and

00:25:43.560 and field questions but um I think it's worth you know that we I'm glad that we're going over it

00:25:50.580 so something to kind of before we get into it gw farnsworth as always thank you so much

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00:26:06.560 fun ways we've got instructions in the uh description of this video um but yeah we

00:26:14.040 appreciate it a lot also man on the mountain bought us eight coffees that's 40 donation thank

00:26:20.920 you so much very much appreciated also a couple of things over in the chat room um

00:26:27.800 i appreciate uh daniel kano says he's excited to watch this because you guys put out some good

00:26:38.480 stuff i'm glad you enjoy them uh i hope we keep putting out stuff that you guys can can learn from

00:26:45.280 be entertained by and uh can provide some some value for you uh another comment over there um

00:26:57.040 what do we got sorry i'm looking over in the chat room while i'm doing this uh heathen man

00:27:04.400 says he appreciates it uh as always looking forward to these two sharing their wisdom and

00:27:09.600 insights on the lore but really thanks for these shows they're invaluable again i'm it means a lot

00:27:16.960 that you guys enjoy this um i look forward to doing this every week uh this has been a

00:27:24.160 absolute pleasure to do and i'm excited about continuing to do so and i'm glad that

00:27:29.920 you guys are enjoying it i hope we can can keep that standard up and also christian penner over

00:27:36.240 on the side notice the horn from which i am quaffing my uh my beers from this is one that he

00:27:46.400 made christian by nomenclature not by creed he does amazing artwork this is also thor um

00:27:56.720 And I should mention, at Feast of the Einherjar, he, so often for our events, Stian makes these horns for our auctions, and he did one for one of our recently honored heroes, King Vlotswain of Sweden, and it is absolutely amazing.

00:28:19.680 it was it was stellar it was best work to date it is fantastic if you get a chance to see that

00:28:27.460 or look at it i don't remember who uh who ended up going away with that horn but i hope we can

00:28:33.240 get some pictures of it because it's pretty fantastic it was go see stam i haven't seen

00:28:38.900 pictures of the final product yet though next time he is on the program hopefully we can have him

00:28:47.160 uh show it to us and show it off because it's pretty impressive

00:28:53.560 um all right so that said swan are we ready to crack into the low veloce bow

00:29:04.840 yeah i think we're i think we are ready small base veloce battle in eastland school

00:29:12.600 see it's coming along working on it yeah um the the the starting has no intro it goes right into

00:29:28.280 it and again remember it was interjected into the middle of the previous uh story or poem

00:29:36.320 about uh the holy freya um giving one of her devoted and raised um ascended followers power

00:29:48.260 um in order to understand his excuse me his lineage um so it doesn't quite fit uh so they

00:29:59.280 they they pull it out and it's this is just us examining it but right out the gate one of my

00:30:04.820 favorite things is again the re-emphasis of why the ausa true folk assembly counts our gods our house

00:30:16.980 in the number of 12. um this just re-emphasizes it we we mark our our senior as 14 and our house as

00:30:28.900 12. so right out the gate in number one eleven in number the gods were known

00:30:36.340 now interesting about the usage of the the word were known um but i digress that the the

00:30:48.820 whether or not this is a memory if if you will or if that was on bellow's part

00:30:54.020 but 11 in number the gods were known when balder o'er the hill of death was

00:31:01.220 was bowed or bowed and this to avenge was vowly swift when his brother's slayer soon he slew

00:31:13.940 so we find now immediately at the cusp that they are establishing that there are 11 gods

00:31:23.220 and one is about to be born one is about to be brought forth into the heavenly realm

00:31:32.500 and that is valley he's it's this is the cusping time um you know when when the gods move

00:31:41.860 to uh the the throwing stones at lord balder and they find great joy and amusement and it

00:31:49.220 turns into a grand festival and um you know they're they're moving out to do this again and

00:31:56.660 uh by this time the outsider the kinslayer um or i guess you know he wouldn't be known as the

00:32:04.740 kinslayer by then you know is looking over at balder's brother and he wants to see if if if

00:32:15.540 he wants to be involved in the festivities even though the day is long it's night now

00:32:22.580 and of course he is blind so what would there be any purpose and finally when he who is you know

00:32:29.300 laufi son or uh you know the father of slepner um finally convinces him immediately one of our

00:32:38.500 oust veneer goes into labor and she bears forth the holy god of vengeance

00:32:46.420 voli that the corrective god of immediate uh dharma if you will so um

00:32:57.700 they you don't it's it's fragmented here though so it's not establishing full-on stories as it

00:33:04.900 is more alluding to other pieces of lore so valley swiftly is born and he grows and immediately is

00:33:15.700 a man who slays his uh slays balder's slayer um in two the father of balder was the heir of

00:33:27.380 bird so this is of course lord odin um as being the son of bird and um of boar so

00:33:39.300 and it's interesting here as well bird is his um he's gaining air from him so what they're

00:33:48.020 really speaking of is his godliness his godhood um as they move into the center um

00:33:55.460 Um, but it becomes disjointed here. It immediately speaks of Frey's wife. Frey's wife was Gerð,

00:34:04.720 the daughter of Gimir, of the giant's brood. And these giants, of course, are Ymir's. 0.87

00:34:11.280 And our boda bore her. To these all well was the Aziz kin, the dark loving giant. His daughter was Skadi.

00:34:23.480 So it goes from speaking immediately of Lord Odin to the Austvenyr Gerðr and the Austvenyr Skadi and how they come from the middle kin.

00:34:38.640 So that's why I often bring that up is that remembering that Jotun or Jotun means ancient being and that the Jotun blood that flows through Lord Odin's veins or, you know, is of his, of his, the generation of which he springs from is different than the, some of the Austvinir who come from the middle,

00:35:06.300 who come from the birthing of Ymir. And it's quite clear here, as they are saying.

00:35:17.960 In three, much have I told thee and further will tell. There is much that I know.

00:35:24.980 Wilt thou hear yet more? So that line right there mimics the Volospow, the full and proper poem.

00:35:33.400 And because it's so disjointed and because it's not making any particular connective stories, that's why this poem is often seen as useless or not very, you know, informative.

00:35:54.040 But there is already much in there.

00:35:57.960 And this part just simply mimics like the Volospow proper poem.

00:36:03.040 so this is why it's called the little lust bow um now here's an interesting um

00:36:12.640 point in number four heave and hroth the children of frimnir of vedna's sons hockey was the best

00:36:26.720 by a bit by hjurvath was fedya's fedna's father i'm trying to read it in the english and it's like

00:36:37.680 um and here again this might be a crossover one thing that's that's known is that gulve

00:36:46.080 or or the the gold lusting that comes from the vanir when she leaves she is um she says her name

00:36:54.320 is heave um which is generally translated to a witch but has more connections to the word that

00:37:03.600 means like a burning coal or a bright light um and there's no mention of her being born of the jotens

00:37:15.200 but she comes from the vanir and so is there some cross naming here or is there jotens that share

00:37:25.920 the same name um because again they bring up frosty of or horse thief and these are children

00:37:33.600 of rim near um and there it seems like they're alluding to stories that you know we don't have

00:37:40.640 any connection with um so it kind of falls flat and it it causes a little bit more confusion or

00:37:49.440 at least i think avenues of research um in five the sibyls now the sibyls are the volva or the

00:37:58.720 the seeress, but the sybils arose from Vidolf's race.

00:38:09.780 Now, Vidolf means forest wolf or possibly hunter of the wolf, 0.96

00:38:14.540 like a Vyðr, Vyðr Ulf, and from Vilmaev, all the seers are.

00:38:23.200 Now, most people chalk this up that this is just a list of Jotuns. But again, with how fragmented the poem is, it's not safe to say that it suddenly just locks in and starts popping out Jotuns.

00:38:38.380 and then that makes it convenient to say well then all magic like cirrus magic uh say their

00:38:45.100 magic and all of this is is you know strictly from the evil um side of things because it's

00:38:55.580 clearly mentioned elsewhere but again it is you know it's safe to say especially when it comes from

00:39:03.500 the um the ultimate i guess coalescence of what they're trying to paint is that

00:39:10.540 this brood in particular even though they come and they are jotun

00:39:15.580 um in their multiplicity or wherever they may come from it's not the only you know form of

00:39:21.580 magic or source of magic that you may experience but um the symbols arose from vidolf's race and

00:39:28.300 and from Willemeth all the seers are, and the workers of charms are Svart Hovni's children,

00:39:36.420 a black head, and they are from Ymir Spreng, the giants all. So this raises a lot of interesting 0.74

00:39:47.560 questions about, I think, the interrelationship between the Jotuns and the Vanir before the

00:39:56.060 Aesir get involved. I've always kind of seen the triangle or the tripartite. I know I beat that

00:40:03.920 drum a lot, but that repetition of three points. And there is a point in which the Vanir are 1.00

00:40:10.780 referred to as the old gods. And I think that this is a reference to the fact that our folk

00:40:18.700 interacted with the Vanir first because the Vanir are of the middle. They're of 1.00

00:40:26.760 this world or this plane of existence. And that the heavenly gods that were bore up after

00:40:37.400 the great flooding of Ymir's blood, they come in later and start to interact. And that's when

00:40:48.680 that war between the two comes about. But between that time, what is the relationship between the

00:40:55.360 Vanir and the Jotans? And I do believe that they were in conflict. We see that the Vanir are

00:41:02.200 the spark of life, the natural law that's inescapable. And there's this constant flow, 0.97

00:41:10.840 the rise of life and the pull of death and the jotens aren't death they are resistance and

00:41:18.760 dissipation the the forces that break things down pull things away and so life is constantly

00:41:26.440 fighting against the resistance and fighting against the or that resisting flow that that

00:41:32.600 that flow that comes in and tries to break down life and life is constantly trying to cycle its

00:41:39.480 way around it so that interplay here i think what they're mentioning in these stanzas is perhaps

00:41:49.560 even before the icier get truly involved in the middle um after the slaying of emir i know in the

00:41:57.720 story it's like the slaying of emir happens and then this happens and this happens that's the way

00:42:03.480 poems need to work they have to have no uh they just have set order there's no concept of of a

00:42:12.840 kind of uh a resolution or um a settling down or what happened so we have this um you know the

00:42:22.840 gods come down they slay emir there's this great purging of things and the yacht are set up in their

00:42:31.160 place the vanir are set up in their place the souls of things have to move around we have um

00:42:38.760 and or i mean um bore and best law and their soul ascendant and emir soul descends and becomes need

00:42:50.120 and all of these things get into place and then the three come down and they mess around and create

00:43:01.160 The folk, they shape. And generally in the stories, I always kind of paint Odenville and Ve as younger. They're kind of having fun and doing this in the youth of their godliness, and they're trying things out.

00:43:21.480 and when they create these beings and then let them free it's the vanir who take notice

00:43:28.920 it's the vanir who suddenly realize wait a minute all of the the flow of animal life that we've

00:43:34.840 we've been keeping stewardship of suddenly there is this new and uh designed differently um

00:43:43.320 um being and that I think is the spark of of the war and so before this the battle between 0.98

00:43:55.500 life and death the cyclic nature of it and resistance and dissipation of the Yotnar I think 0.88

00:44:03.300 was well underway the Aesir end up more or less knowing the big picture but the battle 0.84

00:44:11.880 The battleground was the middle world, and the Vanir and the Jotun had already been interchanging with each other.

00:44:22.240 So, when we move to the, let me see here, in six, much have I told thee, and further will tell. 0.83

00:44:32.700 There is much that I know.

00:44:34.760 Wilt thou hear yet more?

00:44:37.440 So again, another repetition or anchor line.

00:44:40.120 and then uh seven one there was born in bygone days of the race of the gods and great was his

00:44:48.920 might nine giant women at the world's edge once bore the man so mighty in arms

00:44:56.660 so uh we'll go a little bit more but i i hopefully people are already know so gilp the

00:45:07.020 the crying one or the the the one that bellows out grape there bore him

00:45:26.460 so remember we have the jotnar and the the vanir in the middle and

00:45:33.260 And we already see an interplay there. There's a name Iarnsaxa at the end there, J-A-R-N-S-A-X-A.

00:45:46.840 That's pronounced Iarn, which is iron, iron knife. It is believed by some that these might

00:45:55.780 actually be physical rivers that were um scarred across the the the face of midgard um and that

00:46:07.380 these flowing glacial rivers are part and parcel with the the the waves if you will the waves that

00:46:17.380 come in come into the waters in which there is specifically one of the gods the uh of the middle

00:46:29.140 world that is born so this is gonna it's gonna get a little confusing with the idea that there's

00:46:38.100 this interplay between the vandir and the jotens in the middle but just try to try to picture it as

00:46:46.180 um something happening say before the war between the icer and the vanir natural law is running

00:46:54.820 at its at its full capacity against resistance dissipation of the yotan at the battlefield

00:47:03.220 and in this long overwhelming battle there is one who is born

00:47:10.020 and ends up kind of unifying to or with the the vanya um and here it's it states strong was he

00:47:25.100 made with the strength of the earth and the ice cold sea and the blood of swine that's an

00:47:31.800 interesting um part as as if to be created by sacrifice or intent um the idea of of of him

00:47:41.100 being brought into power uh strong was he made or sorry um much have i told thee and further will

00:47:48.740 tell there is much that i know wilt thou yet more so the the rivers or the waves that are being

00:47:58.780 mentioned are the nine waves that are the mothers of heimtotler and heimtotler is one of the most

00:48:08.740 mysterious owls um coming from the middle realm coming from the the great tumultuous battle

00:48:19.340 between the vanir and the jotun um we find these these powers being mixed and interlaid in the

00:48:28.780 middle world and i think it's only fitting that he is placed as the guardian of heaven after the

00:48:36.060 exchange after the war there is the the hostaging if you will there comes a time in which there can

00:48:41.900 no longer be any separation they have to unite and the the vanir become icier um and they live 0.84

00:48:48.940 amongst the isia and there's no greater sense of trust than for one group to place the vigilance 0.90

00:48:56.860 of the entirety of the tribe into the hands of one that you are making truce with and it goes again 0.61

00:49:06.460 to mention that the vanier are are made of the middle so i always talk about how the gods are

00:49:13.420 moving up and down or left and right or all the way down into the shades of of death um the middle

00:49:22.460 is where the vanir come from and they are different than the yacht and even though

00:49:28.700 they are in the same space and midgard is their is their battleground and um so i i when i see this

00:49:38.460 and and read it i always kind of try to like link in it back to this is before the the the war between

00:49:44.460 the icier and the vanya the the mystery of heim dollar and again once the icer do get involved

00:49:53.820 there is this moment when the folk go out and i have no doubt that being connected to the powers

00:50:00.460 of the middle they were either they contacted or were contacted by the vanya and there was

00:50:06.780 relationships already built there because the vanir are called the older gods of men

00:50:12.940 um and it wasn't until later that the icer took their full place amongst men amongst the folk

00:50:22.220 because they're the spirit our our spirit evolved and i i've also find it interesting

00:50:29.180 heim dollar goes up into heaven and then comes down and gives the unity of the vanir and the

00:50:37.420 icier to the folk and that's what brings about the the true expansion of the folk um in rigstula

00:50:49.260 so uh again in number 10 there's an anchor line much have i told thee and further will tell

00:50:55.500 there is much that i know wilt thou hear yet more

00:51:01.740 and then it immediately jumps again the wolf did loki with anger bow the wind

00:51:07.980 and sleptner bore he to svadelfari the worst of marvels seemed the one that sprang from the

00:51:17.100 brother of bayless then so here we're speaking again of the the um the coming of loki and his

00:51:30.860 his brood or in in truth too these these are initiate initiation or initiatory factors that

00:51:40.380 start to create more and more, um, weird and, uh, or, or Orlog, the Orlog begins to, uh, go forth in,

00:51:52.100 in like a catalyst form. Um, it starts off with, uh, Slepnir, the slipping one, um,

00:52:01.000 that is ultimately given to Lord Odin in heaven. Um, you know, and it's, it's kind of interesting,

00:52:09.760 like when people say like do you believe that like lord othen is riding a horse

00:52:14.480 actually i don't i do believe that that being born of that was in taken into

00:52:24.720 lord othen and this gives him an ability to be more dynamic and to reach places that the gods

00:52:32.080 gods often do not go. Again, the reason why Sleipnir is brought into play when Hermoth

00:52:40.820 goes down into the underworld, and why the gods do not go into the underworld very willy-nilly.

00:52:47.040 It takes something that is born between rationale. Loki is a gray zone. He's a bending of the rules,

00:52:58.380 And those rules applied is then synthesized into Lord Odin to allow him to become more dynamic and to move through. He's literally riding the gray lines of existence.

00:53:12.680 and um it it seems beneficial there but then of course anger oda um and loki create the elemental

00:53:24.860 chaotic forces first there is hell and she is the most benign and she is placed in the lower realm

00:53:33.860 in guidance over the ancestors in guidance over the processes of death and in the middle there

00:53:41.020 is containment and in here he's referred to as the worst which i i i that is interesting to me

00:53:47.820 because i always kind of view fenris as the worth worst but perhaps the containment of

00:53:56.220 the middle world in jormungandr um the world serpent is denoting some sense of perhaps loss

00:54:06.300 maybe loss from the jotun's perspective or perhaps there is a sense that everything is

00:54:13.260 is stilled once jörmangandr is introduced or perhaps it's an age of turmoil in the oceans

00:54:21.020 and in the middle world and it isn't till later until um lord thor brings him to

00:54:28.860 under brings him under order that this is a terrible time in the middle world where the ocean

00:54:35.020 is um writhing under the chaotic soul of jordan gander but of course in heaven itself the tiny

00:54:44.700 little wolf pup is taken so you know i've always taken the worst to be fenris is brought into heaven

00:54:51.580 and uh that's kind of the the scale and again it's really important to remember in our stories

00:54:56.700 the movements of the gods the movements of these um the the souls of these beings

00:55:05.020 um so i i've been kind of quiet on this because i kind of want to get to the end before i go

00:55:13.160 super deep into some of these things this is a tiny poem fragment but it's meaty it's got a lot

00:55:21.180 of really powerful imagery but it also speaks to really important concepts and things that we need

00:55:29.260 to know about our lore, about our gods, and about Alcetree. Something to remember, and

00:55:37.920 it's part of the overarching theme, victory never sleeps. The evil things, the bad things

00:55:45.840 are stasis and constriction. So Jormungandr limits outward growth. He constricts and he

00:55:57.840 squeezes the world tight. He tries to, you know, as snakes do constrict. And his brother Fenrir

00:56:08.220 devours. So there's the forces of chaos are seeking to devour us. There's a constant theme

00:56:15.320 of staying, you know, one step ahead of the, you know, slathering jaws of the wolf and

00:56:23.260 And this trying to bust out of forces that would constrict us or prevent us moving forward. So these are kind of dual forces of degeneracy and chaos, the inward squeezing and limitation of our expanse and the, you know, if we're slipping and if we slow down, entropy overtaking us.

00:56:46.540 So keep that in mind as we go through and, and got more to say in a couple of stanzas here.

00:56:54.340 Well, and this one's really interesting in 12, because the mentioning of this, you will generally get people confusing the story of Goulvey and her thrice born fire birth.

00:57:15.500 and they kind of correlate it to Loki and they try to make this connection here however in reality

00:57:22.000 the story that we're referring that is referring to here is not known however it is the source

00:57:28.500 of where we know of the evils that that dwell in the middle world amongst amongst men and this is

00:57:37.720 a heart in 12 a heart ate loki in the embers it lay and half cooked he found found he the woman's

00:57:47.700 heart with child from the woman lopped soon was and thence among men came the monsters all now

00:57:56.220 this could very simply mean that the there was some element to the story in which anger both

00:58:03.080 heart is placed or removed and that by consumption it enlivens her again but ultimately our faith

00:58:15.920 does believe in monstrous things uh i know that some people will try to say oh like you know

00:58:23.940 they get caught up on the christian idea of um shadim and malak if nobody knows what those are

00:58:32.520 a Shadim is the Greek word that Christians used for that is demon, which doesn't actually

00:58:42.280 equal each other translation wise. But early Christians would have spoken about Shadim

00:58:50.060 and Malak and the Malak are, they use the Greek word Angelos or messengers.

00:58:56.560 But, you know, generally people have this misconception that Ausatru doesn't have morality. Ausatru doesn't have good and evil. Ausatru doesn't have beings of good and evil. And there's nothing further from the truth. We have beings of good. We understand the gods are good. We understand that the Leozalvar are good.

00:59:20.040 We understand that the Alvar and the Desir of our lines are good. And in the dark places, there are the brood that comes from Angerboda and Loki or, you know, and given to the limited translation of it, I assume this to be the case. 0.96

00:59:44.960 And from them, I think the equivalency of what we would consider a demon is the word troll. And a troll is comical in the sense that language now has kind of relegated troll to be, you know, a fuzzy little topped naked character.

01:00:06.780 um but a troll to our ancestors was something of of malevolence and something that resided in dark

01:00:16.060 places where humans weren't supposed to be or didn't want you know it didn't want them to be

01:00:20.460 there or it was places that it gravitated towards you know just absolute destruction devastation

01:00:27.980 and it was like the trolls in willow yeah the uh the one that turns to stone that's a great movie

01:00:37.580 um yeah they're they're they're just they're born of malice and they take variable shapes

01:00:45.100 in our stories but generally they're seen as creatures that reside in dark and desolate

01:00:50.940 places like in Willow with the, um, with the, uh, the castle, um, ripped to something like stop

01:00:58.420 motion, stop motion two headed dragon thing. Yeah. With the, with the weird, uh, grundle throat

01:01:07.940 thing. Um, yeah. So the, the idea of spirits of darkness and spirits that are, uh, malicious

01:01:16.900 and that they are kept back by the leo salvar the the glowing ones the ones that enter into the

01:01:24.580 middle world right you know after ostra opens up the gates they come in and they drive away

01:01:31.740 these forces and plunge them back into dark areas and keep them away from the treadings of men um

01:01:39.180 and of course too there's lord thor who does it as well keeping these these creatures of

01:01:46.240 um turmoil and really if you look at energy in the world of the middle there's always this sense of

01:01:53.560 that the the troll or the malicious or the evil really comes about because of pent up

01:01:59.680 something whether it's pent up energy pent up emotion pent up um tragedy these these

01:02:09.340 like pustules or just tumorous buildups. And it's Lord Thor that breaks them open. And there's a

01:02:20.380 sudden kind of vortex of balance where all of this pent up immediately has to be displaced and

01:02:29.440 dispersed into the world. We see this with tornadoes. There's this buildup of cold air and

01:02:34.640 hot air and then there's a catalyst that rips it asunder and the formation of that tornado is um

01:02:42.960 the the violence of the release that all of these things are coming back into balance and there's

01:02:49.440 this massive battle um and it starts with that the strike of um lord thor so you know i've always

01:02:59.360 kind of advised that when people take um to say perhaps walking upon or feeling that they're in

01:03:05.760 a place where there are these malevolent spirits um and our ancestors had people called vartlocker

01:03:12.720 who um and and rune mother who could you know uh propose to um lock and pull and drive out these

01:03:23.520 spirits is really because it's always about a pent up element whether it's a physical element

01:03:30.560 whether it's a spiritual element um it's always this kind of um cancerous tumor of a build-up

01:03:38.240 that needs to be severed released or lanced or crushed or or what have you in order for it and

01:03:45.520 again doing that doesn't mean that everything's going to be great it's it's like knocking down

01:03:51.920 the dam there's going to be a massive rush of water and destruction before things can level out again

01:03:59.760 um so uh let's see sorry went on a went on a run there 13. um the sea storm driven

01:04:13.760 seeks heaven itself over the earth it flows air grows sterile then follow the snows and the furious

01:04:24.160 winds for the gods are doomed and the end is death again we're we're talking about the natural law

01:04:35.200 and i think that that's what the overall arching of this poem um is lending itself to is cyclical

01:04:42.880 natures the idea that um or not even the idea it is that the gods of the vanir are cyclical

01:04:52.160 they are natural law and the gods of the heavenly realm are cosmic order and this poem really is

01:05:01.040 kind of focusing on say cyclic and or log um events and uh indications that show these these

01:05:10.880 cycles the the sea the storm driven seeks the heavens itself the meeting of the horizon between

01:05:16.880 the water and the sky and it flows over the earth but then the you know the the air grows still and

01:05:24.480 um the snows come and this could of course be referencing the fimble winter uh the

01:05:32.320 fimble winter the terrible winter and then the furious winds and then ragnarok so all

01:05:38.400 of these these cycles are are brought into play um and 14. one there was born the best of all

01:05:49.360 and strong was he made with the strength of the earth so yep i was just speaking about lord thor

01:05:56.960 this is lord thor the the one who keeps the balance who or who in reality what it is is he

01:06:03.600 he keeps the cycles going he makes sure that there's no bent pent up everything's flowing

01:06:11.440 over and under over and under and if there's a blockage there is the one who is born of the sky

01:06:18.000 and of the earth and he's the one that breaks that blockage um the proudest is called the kinsmen of

01:06:26.240 men of the rulers all throughout the world lord thor presides over all of the folk um

01:06:36.000 in 15 then comes another a greater than all though never i dare his name to speak few are they now

01:06:45.200 that farther can see than the moment when odin shall meet the wolf

01:06:51.280 so here i think people um are you know they lend to the idea that maybe the copyist or snorri

01:07:00.800 um we're referencing the christian god if you will um i don't think that this is the case

01:07:09.200 um in lending sense it could be um balder or it could be that they are referencing

01:07:18.000 the that jormungandr is a great doom in the the um stanzas before and this is of course

01:07:25.200 referencing to fenris that he comes and he is great and terrible and lord odin shall meet him 0.77

01:07:35.200 um and bring this cycle um

01:07:40.960 let's see and i believe that's it it suddenly comes to the end of and at the the end with

01:07:48.160 ragnarok and the death of lord odin um and again i think oh sorry no go ahead i was gonna say

01:07:56.320 yeah please oh no just about that last stanza the um the the idea of the lending to the christian god

01:08:08.880 is again because there's there's fair enough evidence um in the uh volas bow that there may

01:08:17.440 be some lending to that but the reasons why that might be there is dubious again you're writing a

01:08:22.880 story about the old religion about the old gods and you might have to put in safeguards in order

01:08:28.320 to kind of calm people down but the the ambiguity of that last stanza i think that's way too easy

01:08:41.440 and i want to reiterate

01:08:43.600 if you are writing or if you are examining our lore commentating on it studying it

01:08:55.840 as an obscure obscure stories by primitive peoples on how they rationalize their

01:09:06.180 ooga booga existence you come to really different conclusions than if you take as your point of

01:09:15.540 starting that this is a sincere faith that modern human beings with the same size brains as yours

01:09:25.100 and mine placed their faith and their their loyalty um if you start with the assumption

01:09:33.500 that our gods are real, and that our people believed in them, then it challenges you to

01:09:40.320 look at the law in a very different way, and to apply your logic in a very different way.

01:09:46.160 It's very easy with the hindsight of the last thousand years to take things that you don't

01:09:55.980 know a clear answer to, that you find a pattern that fits with Christianity, and just everything

01:10:02.060 in in the lore that you don't understand no that's just christian stuff that got put in there

01:10:07.820 if the point was to kiss up to the church at the time then rather than be ambiguous

01:10:17.000 they would just talk about the glory of christ at the end and then that would be awesome it

01:10:22.580 would preserve our lore and it would make the priests super happy talking about you know

01:10:27.480 something explicitly biblical that's a very easy thing to do with little consequence and i don't

01:10:33.800 think i think there's a reason that that's not done if that's uh you know if that's what the

01:10:41.000 situation was it would be super easy if you're trying to avoid scrutiny from the church just say

01:10:47.560 jesus and then you're good but they didn't so i think it challenges us to look a little bit deeper

01:10:54.680 and to give thought to this there's a couple of passages like that that presage this this new

01:11:00.680 golden age after after ragnarok um with the coming of of this kind of a situation and we see that a

01:11:08.280 couple of places but in this before i do that paul in south carolina donated a hundred dollars

01:11:14.120 to the general fund thank you so much paul we appreciate it greatly um i do have i do have a

01:11:22.040 a quick remark on this stuff. We have to remember that so much of what we just immediately think of

01:11:30.120 as Christianity is really just our European faith with a Christian veneer. Most of what actual

01:11:40.860 Christianity, when you read the book, is it's not the light and spark and happiness that we think of

01:11:49.220 with this new coming age balder and his return and the on the the ascension to gimli and all of that

01:11:57.180 that you know people often speak of as just pseudo jesus that's not even the way christianity is

01:12:09.060 described when you actually look christianity it's just what european christianity did

01:12:12.920 to steal our stuff yeah and and i think that's i think that's true too so i would

01:12:20.960 advise everybody not to rush to that conclusion because i think it's i think it's silly and i

01:12:27.380 think it's lazy um so we got a number of questions kind of building up and i think there's a lot of

01:12:34.820 things that are worth mentioning and something that comes up from time to time or that gets used

01:12:42.100 in the chat often there is a misconception about alsatru that it's a nature religion or that we

01:12:50.900 worship nature or that you know nature is like the highest good and it's and it's very much

01:12:59.760 not and i we get these memes out there like nature's my church and whatever

01:13:06.580 i think that people come by that honestly and i don't want to be insulting but i think it

01:13:15.580 misses a great deal of the point of our lore our gods and and something else that i that

01:13:21.380 i want to correct yes the icer in a lot they are of a cosmic order orientation

01:13:31.660 and the vanir are associated with nature but our nature has two faces to it there's destructive

01:13:46.900 the jotnar are just as much nature as the vanir the chaotic forces of the storm giants and mountain

01:13:57.480 giants and the destructive deep ocean and the bad guys are nature too so natural order of things

01:14:10.280 certainly there is a order to how midgard is because of the imposition of the will of our gods 0.51

01:14:21.240 And I don't think we emphasize enough, yes, the Aesir are gods of cosmic order, but that is a willful order.

01:14:31.460 It is ordering nature to their will. 0.99

01:14:35.360 The struggle of man against nature is a fundamental of our race and of our cosmos.

01:14:43.320 cutting down nature to build homes and halls and hoffs and civilization is what we do

01:14:55.680 now yes if that's unbalanced of course but it's really important to understand that

01:15:04.580 we all feel a sense of awe when you go out into the wilderness if you go an hour from your house

01:15:17.540 and you go walk around in the woods you go for a hike that's really cool and i'm not diminishing

01:15:23.860 that at all it's really spiritual and it's wonderful and it's it's fantastic i was very

01:15:29.040 very fortunate in my life growing up in alaska that i got to spend a lot of time

01:15:33.040 you know kind of deep out into nature and it's it's amazing but it's terrifying too

01:15:40.300 um everyone who's been lost at sea has died because of nature everyone who has been stuck

01:15:50.240 out in the cold and froze to death when the pioneers and the you know folks in the gold rush

01:15:56.620 got caught unawares and couldn't start a fire in time.

01:16:04.480 Folks that get hit by hurricanes and tornadoes and lose everything, including their life,

01:16:10.280 that's nature. So there's certainly a place for nature, but an over reverence of nature is

01:16:17.900 a misunderstanding of fundamentals of our faith. Our faith are about using nature to structure

01:16:26.140 our willed existence inside of we want to work with nature in lots of ways certainly

01:16:34.220 but we do a disservice when we overly we overly celebrate that one of the things that stands out

01:16:43.020 so much about aryan people and nobility itself is something higher imposing itself upon nature 0.94

01:16:52.540 if all we are is claw and tooth and savagery that's the antithesis of being noble people 1.00

01:17:03.340 that's being that's remaining in a bestial state and not becoming more and not ascending

01:17:12.320 so that's really important and i and i can't uh i don't mean to harp on it but i think it's

01:17:19.560 something that's often missed and often misunderstood. And I think that that's kind

01:17:27.300 of a special thing about this poem, is it talks about, in a lot of ways, the evolution

01:17:38.100 of our gods from that primal Jotunar state into their state as gods of our folk.

01:17:53.100 It talks of their ancestry to, you know, the primal.

01:17:58.960 So one of the things that it makes reference to here is the nine sisters that bore Lord Heimdallr.

01:18:11.420 And Svahn, for the audience, whose daughters are those?

01:18:18.460 So the Lord of Waters.

01:18:22.620 um understanding that when we speak about ayer and raun and the jotens because like

01:18:32.260 also you're good he said nature is the vanir and the jotens and and the ice here and their

01:18:41.180 interactions as well and and to nature is primordial so these are primordial things being

01:18:46.820 wielded by great and powerful and willful beings um so we we know of ayur and and raun and the nine

01:18:57.260 waves of of them on the yacht inside but very rarely do we do we entertain that this is the

01:19:08.280 lord of the waters and his nine daughters um springing forth from from him or of the of the

01:19:18.420 vanier side or if not simply perhaps his you know again his his brides this uh intermixing of lord

01:19:28.780 and the brides that are jotens and again this interplay happens all the time the the vanier

01:19:37.920 dominate or interplay with the Jotun and same with the Aesir.

01:19:45.560 And when we speak of like, there's the good nature like Jarth 1.00

01:19:50.360 and there is the scary nature like Gríðr,

01:19:54.060 but both are Austvenir that join the gods.

01:19:59.900 Does this make them less? No, but it does make them less than say,

01:20:06.640 you know certainly and so and we extend we extend the metaphor too far when we

01:20:13.440 the lore is beautiful and it expresses vast spiritual truth in a way that we can all relate

01:20:25.740 to but we need to not forget that we're talking about gods and we're not talking about just big

01:20:32.880 people just like people writ large you know how can he be born of nine mothers that doesn't make

01:20:40.640 any sense well he didn't spring forth from a womb in a physical we're talking about the birth of a

01:20:49.120 god into reality and these are the forces that came into play for that um like like frayer and in girth

01:20:59.600 It's a God of will has to dominate an unyielding natural force to produce the beneficial nature and the harmony that comes from that.

01:21:18.360 it comes from willpower and the cosmic bending the chthonic and the primal to its will

01:21:26.880 to make good things there's a combination of the both there but will must be in charge of 0.73

01:21:35.200 the primal and we see that um with the isir that's one of their key characteristics and

01:21:43.380 And one of the things that makes the All-Father such a unique and special expression of that in our lore and in the history of our race,

01:21:56.760 he's very much a God of a multifaceted God of willpower and of willful shaping and traveling and creating.

01:22:08.980 And it's a really special expression of that.

01:22:13.480 so i think there's a lot of those pieces in here we've got a number got a number of questions

01:22:21.480 well i did want to kind of expound on that the the there is mention and reference to the nine

01:22:29.800 daughters of um and whether they're you know the argument you know it's one it's very very small

01:22:40.200 but that reference is still held there as the daughters of neither or the brides of the other

01:22:46.680 or the the if if the earth and the lord of waters come together and create these daughters

01:22:56.520 these daughters converge into one place and that place is where heim doppler or really to the home

01:23:05.160 dale is the nine rivers that coalesce into one area that's where heimdoller is first born he's

01:23:14.440 born and we call him often the flame upon the waters and the idea that his gift to the folk

01:23:23.720 is the usage of fire but he is born of the water and we you know find that synthesis there but

01:23:34.200 again how can he be born of nine mothers the convergence uh i you know if the lord of the

01:23:40.280 waters is the creator of rivers or waterways and those waterways coalesce into one place

01:23:47.720 and in that one place is birthed heimdoller there is the nine the nine waves uh again

01:23:54.920 the the idea of valor the name valor v-a-g-r being wave in old north um

01:24:07.080 um is not necessarily always just to mean a singular wave but a place in which rivers flow

01:24:18.920 this we know in the names of the allevower or the 11 primordial rivers that flow in the underworld

01:24:28.760 or in the in not even the underworld it's the primordial world in which all things kind of

01:24:33.400 spring from um it's the the most base world it's the most uh i guess primitive and and kind of

01:24:42.360 simplistic in its formation um the vowel word doesn't simply mean a singular wave

01:24:52.120 um and so i have always taken it that these the the daughters of neither give forth and coalesce

01:25:02.680 so wherever if there is a physical place of the heim the home dale i would look again for nine

01:25:10.440 rivers now would that have a lot of you know and i don't mean to go into it to kind of like start

01:25:15.960 say like we're gonna find noah's ship you know never mind the babylonians had a story about it

01:25:22.120 or or what have you certainly the earth has changed but i i believe our ancestors did

01:25:30.040 speak of this place the place in which nine rivers coalesced into one area and that place

01:25:36.440 bore the home dale at the or it was the home dale and that is the same place that heimdall comes

01:25:44.360 back to and finds the folk on the edge between the water and the land so it's also interesting

01:25:53.320 to know so the names of these rivers um do not have there's one that has like connections there's

01:26:02.280 clearly so yo and gulp in um in the naming here in stanza eight have reference to the crying out

01:26:11.320 or or the yelping um it's it survives in the english language with the word yelp so gulp

01:26:18.440 and it means to cry out to give out a a um like a mournful or baleful cry and i think this too

01:26:28.280 references to our ancestors view of like when we say a babbling brook and if the if the waves are

01:26:35.880 really high and particularly um you know sloppy or clappy or choppy they have this kind of like

01:26:45.160 yeah that they're they're crying out so i i think that poetically it was about the idea of cresting

01:26:51.800 waves waves that were loud enough to create these kind of um uh sounds um but you see like the other

01:27:01.000 one like a perfect ulf rune ulf rune um whether this is you know like the the wolf rune um

01:27:11.480 or she wolf is oftentimes what it's translated to and then the other one iarnsaxa as a river

01:27:18.440 another interesting thing about that would be perhaps and this is just speculation a gray river

01:27:25.680 a straight river the one that looks like a sword um in its narrowness or perhaps that it you know

01:27:33.300 it goes into a point the other is is that perhaps that was a place in which iron was collected

01:27:40.720 found in great abundance so i mean i'm just speculating that if these are rivers and these

01:27:46.700 are places where the nine rivers kind of coalesced into the home dale um you know perhaps these names

01:27:54.700 of these um of these rivers have a you know a better uh or more intrinsic naming system

01:28:08.940 that's not just simply poetic but we don't know and again it's only briefly mentioned again

01:28:15.900 that you when we talk about the nine daughters of um it's it's only referenced once and they're not

01:28:24.220 the nine daughters of ayer and i think again the the usage of the word or the number nine

01:28:32.300 in dynamicism of the story and the idea of these these rolling facets of of moving power

01:28:40.140 nine is the number that's going to be used if it's going to be solid it's going to be four or 12

01:28:47.580 uh in our you know in our mythos but if it's three or six or nine it's it's dynamic um

01:28:58.460 so you know a lot of people have speculated oh is heim dollar oh then if anybody's been with the afa

01:29:06.780 long enough you know we do not cram the holy gods into each other because again we don't

01:29:17.180 control the gods so to do that is folly but the other thing is is that

01:29:26.700 some folks try to figure out like if they're naming or patterning things

01:29:31.660 who is from where is uh you know is there are they icier are they vanir we are all the gods

01:29:37.180 are icier but we definitely especially from this poem look that lord heimdall is from the middle

01:29:44.460 and he is born of the middle and that would bring of him to be vanir um

01:29:52.620 Um, again, whether or not Snorri is referring to the Vanir and that, well, that's another thing. So Snorri, I believe, really didn't understand the classifications of things and oftentimes viewed the Vanir and the Jotins as far more interconnected than, say, for instance, simply the Aesir.

01:30:21.980 You know, the worship of Jarth or Nerfus amongst the Germans, we clearly see divine leanings in Central Europe.

01:30:32.880 By the time of the late Nordic period, sorry, past, it's late Nordic, past, you know, like the Viking Age, Snorty ends up classifying, I think, a lot of powers in the middle as Jotuns.

01:30:51.980 And that, I think, causes a lot of great confusion, even though it's spoken of that during the war of the gods, many of the Aesir and many of the Vanir are laid waste during the war.

01:31:06.540 And this, this shows, you know, it's not just, um, Bor, Bestla, Odenvilive, that's it.

01:31:15.980 There's, there's, there, there are the gods. There's a multiplicity. And, um, the same with the Vanir.

01:31:29.800 Sorry, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm soapboxing on that one again.

01:31:36.540 oh am i muted i'm not muted nope matt is oh matt you're you're uh you're muted oh i was i was

01:31:49.620 wrestling with my daughter and it was making a ruckus so i muted myself and then i did not

01:31:54.840 unmute myself that explains why i i could not interject so that being said um while you were

01:32:03.220 on this the first question is witness fawn can you go more in depth on the heavenly wardens

01:32:10.260 uh and their place in the hierarchy of gods and goddesses also does ostara being the dawn goddess

01:32:17.620 fit that category yes 100 we were on the right from our friend the wolf throne

01:32:25.620 wolf throne nice yeah i know he's he's got the great questions um yeah wolf throne you're on

01:32:31.620 the right track um one of the things to understand is i think when it comes to say stepping out and

01:32:40.660 looking at alsatru from a third party perspective a lot of people will look at australia and say

01:32:48.980 oh you know like they'll try to find a nordic equivalent and that is that is not right the the

01:32:57.860 the the idea is simply true that we know that the dawn goddess has been with us since far back and

01:33:08.340 we know that the name austra or east or of the east clearly survives in the nordic language

01:33:15.700 but you'll see some people i think more of the like you know the scholarly kids over there um

01:33:23.220 We'll say, oh, that's not the goddess of night. And instead, what we've done is said, no, Astra is Astra. And we noticed that, wow, there was five of the heavenly wardens and now there is a sixth.

01:33:40.320 it makes it makes sense that there's kind of this rounding out of these numbers we don't try to cram

01:33:48.480 we just simply organically evolve our faith a synthesization um of central european to uh nordic

01:33:59.720 so the hymn and varda the heavenly wardens the best way to look at this is that the primordial

01:34:08.140 powers and all things that are aligned and kept in rotation are brought about by the wardens the name

01:34:18.140 denotes that they are keeping a corrective path and the best way to look at this is there is

01:34:26.060 the the middle world delinger or deling and uh inside delings hall which in essence if you want

01:34:34.940 to think about it poetically is emir's skull emir skull is dellinger's hall and dellinger

01:34:43.020 gives rise to dayer not at the gate is ostra who opens the gate in spring and closes it in winter

01:34:53.900 and um outside of dellinger's hall is soul and and mauni um and i you know i find that interesting

01:35:03.500 for a couple of reasons from our mythos one we speak about delinger and day or in essence the

01:35:11.500 light that is shown towards the earth is different than the light of the sun the primordial spark of 0.60

01:35:21.180 muslim so delinger's hall is needed and it is uh you know it's like how can they have you know the 0.96

01:35:28.380 light from the sun is different than you know just light in general it's because it is different the 0.93

01:35:35.100 light from the primordial spark of muskelheim would burn everything as cinder but it's because

01:35:40.780 we have this protective layer that is the hall and that the light that passes through it is

01:35:46.700 different than the light that's simply you know uh shining through the expanse of of the great gap

01:35:55.660 um is again kind of these secrets that our ancestors spoke of in the stories

01:36:03.820 have these truths to them so on top of that when we speak about day and not

01:36:12.220 when we talk about day and not as godly beings of the him and brother what we're really talking

01:36:19.180 about too is that the gap which is dark is not not kind of uh shrouding no she's the rotation of the

01:36:31.100 earth so we have two horses working within delinger's hall that turn the earth one towards

01:36:39.020 the day one towards the night this rotation is important then in the stories we know that there

01:36:45.980 are two horses with the muspel spark sold or uh suna and again donating uh or like denoting um

01:36:56.700 rotation early year and early waker one is the rotation of the day the other is the rotation of

01:37:03.500 the year but mauni's horse is not mentioned by name and it's only one and out of all of those

01:37:11.580 there's only one that does not rotate mauni is constantly facing and moving with in direction

01:37:20.940 towards the earth and i just i find that fascinatingly beautiful the way this works out

01:37:27.820 but ultimately they are in they're they're kept in track they're kept in place of um presiding over a

01:37:38.620 must spell spark providing over you know a chunk of nivelheim um turning the earth and keeping

01:37:47.500 everything balanced so these gods in particular are honored but i feel like they're more honored

01:37:55.020 in calendary sense um you know there is a little bit that could be mentioned say

01:38:01.980 some some folks may pray to austra for uh the birth of a child some people may

01:38:08.140 pray to um mauni in reference to um good luck especially middle or in the fullest of his

01:38:16.780 the moon um but very rarely is that done generally it is again honoring their

01:38:24.540 their their duty they're what they are wardens of so that's why the title him in vader became

01:38:34.860 um kind of the classification to show so you have the 12 house the 14 hours in here you have the 10

01:38:43.100 aust veneer and then you have the sixth him and verder and the afa did not go oh austra is just

01:38:52.060 this goddess in in the nordic no we said the oh well we've we synthesized the better question would

01:39:01.980 be um why did the the norse not have that emphasis or why was there that break and i i honestly think

01:39:10.460 that most likely it's because of the high climbs the um the the placement on on the globe um

01:39:18.380 um the emphasis of she you know she's known as usana or aurora or um by many other names and

01:39:26.840 many other area branches I think that her cult diminished the further north we we were and I

01:39:35.540 think that's you know my own logical guess on that but um we have and we have incomplete material

01:39:44.300 And it's one of those things, did she not exist in the worship of the Norse, or is that not recorded?

01:39:57.000 Was the widespread or prominent veneration of her not so much that it makes the jump into the literature that we do still have?

01:40:08.860 but one thing we know is true is she exists and she blesses us and we've engaged for a great

01:40:18.940 many years with her in the gift cycle therefore she's there and she's honored

01:40:24.040 so another question that we have and i'm gonna i'm gonna give you the

01:40:34.560 give you the broad answer and then the more real answer to your question question is Michigan on

01:40:42.500 the radar for being a possible location of a future Hoff absolutely because we're going to

01:40:47.360 have Hoffs all across Midgar no not in the super near future it's not but we're in a time where

01:40:56.220 that can all change very, very quickly. I'll tell you this, right now, we know that Frazehoff

01:41:04.640 is going to be in eastern Ohio or western Pennsylvania. And we know that Tiershoff

01:41:13.500 is going to be at Sigerheim in north central Tennessee. Other than that, that's as far as

01:41:23.040 we know for sure now on the radar now if we had to speculate because we're very far out there are

01:41:28.500 places that seem promising but we're still at a time where our membership fluctuates much more

01:41:36.720 than we'd like it to and we have members that come in and go out and come back and come in and go out

01:41:41.640 and come back we have a very dynamic growth pattern right now so by the time we get to

01:41:49.380 Bragi's Hoff, which would be the Hoff following Tiers Hoff, the whole board can change and

01:41:56.220 hopefully just change for the positive. Hopefully we keep what we have now and have a massive

01:42:00.160 surge in Michigan and that's a very great idea. It all depends. What we need in order

01:42:07.720 to get a Hoff somewhere is we need two things, and we need a number of things, but we need

01:42:20.760 a steady and significant membership base to make that a reasonable thing for us to do.

01:42:28.260 But more than just membership, we need a steady time-tested membership and also steady and

01:42:34.840 time-tested leadership to care for and maintain and ensure that a Hoff is going to be successful. 0.90

01:42:43.100 When we dedicate a Hoff to one of our gods, we are making a commitment that we are going to do 0.98

01:42:48.240 our best to maintain that very special gift that we have for the Iser in the best way possible. 0.99

01:42:58.720 And yes, it's still a challenge, but it's something that we know how to do to get Hoffs.

01:43:04.840 But the real challenge is the test of time to have people there who are going to take care of it and show it the love and devotion and the veneration of the God of that Hoff in perpetuity.

01:43:19.260 So if you find yourself in Michigan and you want Michigan to be on the map for one of our next Hoffs, get out there, be active.

01:43:30.940 if you're not a member, become one. If you are a member, work with folk builder Chris Savage to

01:43:36.700 make things happen there and build something as a testament, as a beacon there that says,

01:43:42.860 hey, this is where we need a Hoff. And I would love to see that happen.

01:43:51.580 So the Wolf Throne has another question for us. Is there something in Ausatru akin to a spiritual

01:43:58.300 awakening perhaps the woed self so i don't know that those two things mean the same thing so i'm

01:44:09.660 wondering when people talk about a spiritual awakening i can think of it primarily in two senses

01:44:23.100 there is a point where you

01:44:28.300 have the, I don't know, have the desire, the calling, the awakening within yourself

01:44:39.720 of the need to come home to Ausatru, our, our ancestral faith. And then there's also like

01:44:50.220 the awakening of esoteric forces inside oneself the you know the summoning of the fire serpent

01:44:59.800 as it were the awakening of your spiritual potential internally sounds closer to

01:45:10.620 what realizing the woed self would mean in an also true context but that's not what i would

01:45:19.880 describe as the average usage to our spiritual awakening that awakening tends to come when

01:45:28.440 you and i don't think that there is a word for it outside of the you know folksy but true uh

01:45:35.480 tagline of it's about coming home it's about roots it's about connections it's about coming home

01:45:40.680 very much is um a lot of people

01:45:48.680 a lot of people talk about an acceptance process of like converting to ausitry and i think that

01:45:56.760 there is a context for embracing that in a formal and ritual way embracing your birthright and

01:46:06.760 taking claim to it but fundamentally it's not a calling to something new or something different

01:46:16.520 it's a resetting yourself to your default to the natural religion of your blood and bone and

01:46:27.400 ancestors and coming home to that realization and in that sense i don't think we have a special

01:46:36.440 fancy word for it in that way but spawn might read the question different and have something

01:46:41.160 a little bit different to add spawn what are your thoughts i think it's a step towards the

01:46:46.920 wound self that's why when he said it i was like ah yeah i i mean is there a name for it i don't

01:46:53.880 particularly think there is um could there be a name constructed for it but it's that pathway

01:47:03.480 towards the realization and that awakening happens multiple times it's uh you know if

01:47:10.600 there is the the awakening to the gods and then you're living your life and then you have

01:47:19.240 an awakening to the connection of all things in the cosmos or perhaps a divine experience that

01:47:25.560 that enlivens you. And, you know, again, when you're at a bloat and you suddenly feel and see

01:47:34.960 and experience the Aesir, and then that is your new awakening. And then that awakening, you know,

01:47:42.580 integrates with your being. And then you have to continue on. I think all of these are really

01:47:50.340 steps towards the woe to self um but as far as like a name no i i i don't know if there is

01:48:00.900 um and again what are the what is the end result the the woe to self that shows up um

01:48:10.680 you know it's i think too often when we experience the divine people think that immediately all

01:48:19.460 things are going to change um and that everything's going to just be wiped clean and that's not the

01:48:26.460 case instead that moment integrates with you and you carry that now into the future and all of

01:48:33.620 your deeds and what you have to do and so because the stepping stones what i'll say is this as far

01:48:41.180 as awakening i don't think that we have a a fun name for it and maybe we should create one

01:48:48.680 But one thing that's very significant about that as a concept, once you know you can't unknow, and it's one of those burdens that comes with knowledge and that comes with embracing the woe of self,

01:49:12.860 is that once you know something you have the responsibility to act with that new knowledge

01:49:22.240 that you have and so i don't fault people who don't know about alsa true and who are christian

01:49:38.620 because their mom's christian and the dad's christian and the grandparents are christian

01:49:42.780 and they're raised in the church and they're doing the best they can with what they know

01:49:48.940 but once you know then you're obliged to act honorably in an aryan fashion with what you know

01:49:57.260 and accept truth whether it's comfortable or whether it's not whether it comes with

01:50:01.820 you know whether it comes at cost or not so that's one of the the things as far as spiritual

01:50:09.860 maturity and a spiritual awakening is once you have been spiritually awakened you can't go back

01:50:19.100 to sleep spiritually you can pretend to you can claim to you can try to but once you know you

01:50:27.200 can't unknow and that's a burden that comes with it and it's beautiful and amazing because you have

01:50:35.600 that assurity of something that is very real and i think those of us who have have fully embraced

01:50:44.480 also true know that to be true and celebrate it but it does come at cost it comes with consequence

01:50:51.760 all good things do so so as i don't know how that really relates to your question but it's a

01:50:59.040 it's an extra thing that i think needs to be said um so i'm gonna because there's it's there's a

01:51:09.680 chat there's a thing going on in the chat room and it is coupled with a question i'm gonna answer

01:51:14.160 the question out of order because i think it's timely to an ongoing thing so everybody pause

01:51:19.680 for a sec because i think it's a really i think it's an honest question and i don't think it's

01:51:25.360 meant badly and i think it probably expresses concerns that a lot of people come to also true

01:51:33.360 with um so be more heathen asks question don't mean to come off wrong but what is your thoughts

01:51:45.680 on the jotens and semitic to be politically correct but is there any way to agree to say

01:51:56.800 the least so i'm not i'm i i get what you're asking um no the jotens aren't jews

01:52:05.200 yeah i get what i i get i get what you're saying and you are not and so

01:52:09.040 i don't say that with any spice i've heard other people there is a tendency

01:52:17.600 by everyone when you embrace a new faith to have that overlay the lens in which you see the world

01:52:28.400 and i think that's good and that's right to do but i think when you allow

01:52:33.920 your personal likes and dislikes or current political situations

01:52:41.480 to retroactively color ancient lore it's an issue of directionality

01:52:48.300 it's always worthwhile to remember our gods and our lore are not made up stuff to explain things

01:53:00.040 they are truth that comes to us in a particular expression or a particular picture

01:53:08.460 but it's not the other way around we're not projecting our ideas upon the divine or upon

01:53:15.980 our cosmology we are interpreting our cosmology and the divine through the lens and the the things

01:53:23.220 that we have familiarity with. One thing that is very essential to Ausatru, and this involves

01:53:29.800 politics and religion and history and everything else, Ausatru isn't a reaction to the other.

01:53:37.920 Ausatru doesn't exist in its contrast to Christianity. It doesn't exist in its contrast

01:53:43.900 to Judaism. It doesn't exist in a contrast to Islam. It doesn't exist to a contrast of anything 0.96

01:53:51.820 else except for chaos. Ausatru exists in a contrast to the forces of Musfalheim. Other 0.91

01:54:01.900 than that, Ausatru is its own thing. It is self-contained, and it is about our inner

01:54:11.540 cosmology, how we relate to the world, how our people define ourselves, and how we are

01:54:19.000 oriented it is not pro any other thing it is not anti any other thing in and of itself it is only

01:54:27.720 pro or anti in how that relates to us and how that relates to our gods it's not that we're isolated

01:54:37.160 and don't interact with other things but also true isn't about other groups of people that we

01:54:45.080 have conflict with other than it is a proactive expression of ourselves our destiny and our will

01:54:52.760 our lore isn't an ancient pre-saging of people that we may have political differences in 2024

01:55:03.720 with because our lore is true and related to things that existed in the primal ancestry of

01:55:09.720 our folk and that are equally relevant in 200 you know in shoot in 500 bc

01:55:19.480 in 500 a.d in 5000 a.d australia is just as relevant and to

01:55:29.640 know the our ancient gothar and ancestors were not writing something prophesizing about something

01:55:35.240 that irritates practitioners of Alcetru in the moment.

01:55:41.480 And I think it's really important

01:55:43.040 that we make that distinction.

01:55:44.420 It doesn't mean that you can't have political views

01:55:48.040 on things today.

01:55:48.940 By all means, do so.

01:55:50.820 Embrace the world that you live in

01:55:53.280 and apply our principles to that world.

01:55:56.240 But don't mistakenly project that back onto our lore.

01:56:00.980 Project our values onto your politics

01:56:04.620 and not the other way around and that's really important in your question that's not the first

01:56:08.800 time I've heard it that's not the first time it's come up you're not wrong for asking it

01:56:12.600 no harm no foul but it is a really important thing to to make a distinction on may I speak

01:56:19.640 a little bit as well on that um as I was saying too is the application forward do things um do

01:56:30.400 people in the outland there's the inland or the inner guard or the outland that's why we say like

01:56:38.580 outlandish um that's outlandish um do they have uh do they implement you know um bad things against

01:56:48.980 us whatever it might be or whoever they may be in the outer again our implementing of the desire

01:56:56.380 for order and having thrust upon us um elements of chaos elements of dissension elements of evil

01:57:05.740 then that is the eternal that al-shera godi is is referring to um and it doesn't necessarily

01:57:13.660 have to be like again it's titled or named or placed in the modern you'll find a lot of man-made

01:57:20.060 religions the the the religions that build themselves around mortal men will do this

01:57:27.660 they will say oh that specific group of people you know they're they're you know they're demons or

01:57:34.640 they're they're evil or their god is this and our god is that you know it's like even with the um 0.54

01:57:41.520 with the uh israelites or the jews or the semitics because again there's multiple semitic groups you 0.72

01:57:48.160 know, the Sarmatians and the, the Phoenicians were actually, I think they're the same. Sorry.

01:57:56.200 That was a bad example. But one of our values is truth. And we know, we all know what he's asking

01:58:01.820 and I get it. No, I think we all do. But these man-made religions will do this to fit the time

01:58:10.140 that they're in and instead we are in a perennial uh religion or a truth of perennial excuse me a

01:58:18.000 religion of perennial truths so the application of does the sowing of seeds of chaos against our

01:58:24.920 our people our gods exist and should it be thwarted should it be resisted yes that's that

01:58:33.460 stands and you will see uh even with the israelites um their religion wasn't always that

01:58:40.460 way that's why the first commandment you know when they were in you know they understood about

01:58:46.820 the gods of egypt or what have you the first commandment says you put no other gods before me

01:58:52.920 now modern you know christians and and jews kind of take that as gods being like money or you know

01:58:59.540 abstract objects but no it was quite literal it was the other gods you don't worship them

01:59:05.700 you worship me something to consider is this would be like this would be like an

01:59:15.380 Alcetruar in, I don't know, in 200 saying, you know, are the Romans Jotunar? It'd be like,

01:59:31.840 you know, it'd be like one of our descendants, when we have some intergalactic contact with 0.98

01:59:38.720 Alpha Centaurians are they Yotnar you know is 1.00

01:59:50.240 finding the relationship to where Yotnar are forces of chaos I recognize this thing in my 1.00

01:59:57.980 world in my existence as being a chaotic force that's trying to restrict or harm our folk making 1.00

02:00:08.420 But now my word fails me.

02:00:24.580 The difference between a simile and a, why am I not getting it?

02:00:32.660 There's a difference between saying something is something and saying something is like something.

02:00:37.040 seeing a similarity or a parallel in our lore is a metaphor. So there we go. It was on the tip of

02:00:45.840 my tongue. I knew what I was trying to say. I just spaced it. So that said, seeing a similarity

02:00:52.760 in the political situation you face, in a cultural situation you face, and a personal situation you

02:00:59.960 face. That's good and makes sense and can be more or less applicable depending on the

02:01:07.260 circumstance. But it's important to remember that you are seeing it from a perspective

02:01:13.160 and likening it to something as opposed to projecting that it is that something. And

02:01:20.140 that's a subtle difference, but it's something that I... And a lot of these things that I 0.97

02:01:27.740 say, I don't think anybody here is stupid. I think all of us, this is something I really try in my

02:01:33.640 own life. I break things down to a very simple level a lot as a touchstone for myself so that

02:01:43.640 I believe in constantly reevaluating what we do and why we do it. So going back to the fundamentals

02:01:51.020 and going back to a childlike understanding and then building back out from there and seeing if

02:01:56.760 puts us in the same place is a valuable exercise and it's very easy to get beyond that and start

02:02:04.840 missing the fundamentals so when i restate things that seem really obvious please don't

02:02:12.680 please don't find it condescending it's how i process stuff and it's what i do with myself

02:02:17.400 all the time because it cuts out the white noise and it brings things back to what's fundamental

02:02:22.520 It strips away distraction to focus on the things that are very important.

02:02:27.740 So that's why I express it that way.

02:02:37.840 Sorry, I've got to go back over here on our questions.

02:02:40.040 We've got a number of them that lined up here.

02:02:47.900 I've heard that Ascabi's name means shadow.

02:02:52.520 Compared to Skothack in Scottish lore, and I have no idea if I pronounced that correctly, so I apologize.

02:03:01.960 Another warrior goddess, it said she taught Cúchulainn combat at the Fortress of Shadows, or Dunscaith.

02:03:15.520 Is the phrase dark-loving fiazzy a reference to this?

02:03:22.520 The other translations of the Eta I own says skulking.

02:03:26.560 What do either of these mean in relation to Thiazi?

02:03:31.840 My understanding of skadi, it comes from a dual meaning.

02:03:37.200 Shadow is part of that. 0.99

02:03:38.640 Also harm.

02:03:40.900 So like foreboding, harmful shadow.

02:03:46.120 But I think that's a really interesting thing that you picked up on.

02:03:50.400 I like that a lot, and that gets me thinking.

02:03:53.820 Svon, do you have any perspective on that?

02:03:59.400 You are muted.

02:04:03.920 You are still muted.

02:04:05.640 Man, I've been muted for a while.

02:04:09.560 Still working at it.

02:04:11.500 Not professionals at this, or at least I'm not.

02:04:13.980 Um, so Skavi, um, again, the name lends towards striking or to, you know, it survives in the

02:04:26.220 English language as to scathe or to scar.

02:04:29.740 But again, the idea of the shadow creating that instant cut in the ground, um, is clearly

02:04:38.960 there.

02:04:39.340 and what you're what you're kind of hinting on is some other things that me announced here ago they

02:04:43.980 were talking about the arian myth cycle and its connections to other arian cycles so like

02:04:51.260 the connection between um lord tier and say king nuata king nuata loses his arm instead of his hand

02:05:00.540 but then can no longer you know be like have dominion as a as a god or you know by the two

02:05:07.900 off the date and on they're they're mortal by these stories but uh it can no longer rule and

02:05:14.380 until he gets his arm replaced um we see these these stories about the gods kind of interestingly

02:05:24.140 um you know parallel each other in such beautiful ways the only problem is i don't know enough

02:05:31.420 about the gaelic language to say that there is this connection between uh the skavak and shadow

02:05:39.340 and skavi um but i'm not i'm not shooting that down at all i will say that when you when you

02:05:48.620 originally brought up the question there was a part of the translation in the poem that we are

02:05:53.740 reading tonight. Um, in stanza two, it says here, uh, at the very, very end to these as well was

02:06:05.420 the Aussie skin, the dark loving giant is his daughter was Scotty. And this part here is very

02:06:15.560 interesting because I immediately started focusing in on where they got the dark loving or, or shadow

02:06:22.020 sulking and there is no like reference at all actually the word that that and i don't know how

02:06:31.540 they get to this word but skrautgyarn so it says here um so var thiausi dheera franti

02:06:41.300 So skrautkjarn means opulent and bedecked with shiny things.

02:06:56.820 It means like a showy sense of something.

02:07:01.940 Now, I think that this is poetically leaning towards two things.

02:07:07.260 One, the riches of Fiazzi, you know, as he has mentioned, because they offer Skavi gold, and she says, I do not need it.

02:07:18.500 My father is bedecked with gold all the time and has great wealth.

02:07:23.700 The other is, is that his eyes adorn the heavens are now are shiny ornaments.

02:07:32.120 But I'm not saying that that doesn't have placement.

02:07:35.640 I'm just, I found that interesting that the translation of the dark-loving giant, Skrautgian, has nothing to do with darkness or shadow, but I think it may have, again, referenced more towards the stars, Thiazzi being, Thiazzi's eyes being placed in the heavens, but as far as those connections, Skavi being the scathing one,

02:08:02.900 the one that scars the one that cuts the and cuts like a shadow over snow um cuts like a glacier

02:08:10.780 through a mountain she is you know again i think very clearly connected um and again the recesses

02:08:19.740 of the mountains the place the dark places um you know the cold and desolate um she kind of

02:08:27.120 presides there. And, um, that connection, I don't know that I wrote it down when you asked the

02:08:33.900 question, cause I want to kind of go and look further into it. I don't have enough linguistic

02:08:38.760 knowledge to say that there's a valid connection between the two, but you certainly kind of like

02:08:44.460 you waved a flag towards something that I think the Asa True Folk Assembly doesn't like 0.95

02:08:50.460 poo poo at, or, you know, like, Oh, that's ridiculous. No, that's immediately like, 0.76

02:08:54.840 everything's gonna gonna lend towards that um you know when i get a chance or

02:09:01.840 and i'm sure i'll say he's gonna do the same thing

02:09:05.100 yeah no i think that was cool to point out but it's also really interesting and this is one of

02:09:12.180 the reasons that svan and myself are on our on our old norse slash icelandic journey um

02:09:21.560 so Svan can pick out the the choice rotten shark and so that we can better better internalize

02:09:30.440 because a lot of these times license is taken in the translation to make things fit a context

02:09:37.940 or an assumption and when you go back to the original text there's subtle differences I don't

02:09:44.480 think we just throw it all out and have to start from scratch but sometimes little bits and pieces

02:09:51.200 make a difference and it's funny because somebody else um i apologize i forget who was in the chat

02:09:56.960 and i don't think you guys are well suited by me just rooting through it trying to find it

02:10:01.120 but someone mentioned how these stories awaken something in their folk soul and they very much

02:10:07.440 do and so and that's the beauty of the lord patrick martin was the one that said that

02:10:13.680 bachelor martin so that's and i completely agree um

02:10:22.160 i talk a lot about how the lore is not meant to be literally true it's meant to be poetically true

02:10:29.200 and that's not to diminish it in any way because when you see me stammer over words metaphor

02:10:38.560 notwithstanding that was completely me having a brain fart but as far as trying to find the right

02:10:45.840 word for metaphysical things sometimes vocabulary fails us but imagery often doesn't beautifully

02:10:58.640 expressed poetry and drawing a picture with words sometimes conveys a meaning or a concept

02:11:07.120 in a way that language

02:11:13.440 that straightforward language doesn't necessarily do they'll put things in such a way or they will name

02:11:23.200 spiritual beings in such a way that instantly make you feel something to where you not only

02:11:30.960 academically understand but you internalize and you feel and react to something in a in a way to

02:11:37.920 where you're your being understands your soul understands before in a different way than just

02:11:49.040 trying to digest it through your your humor or your your conscious like analytical thought

02:12:00.960 Svon has disappeared, but in his absence, actually, I'm going to look for some stuff

02:12:09.400 because I want to get him on a couple of these things.

02:12:15.120 All right, so Wolf Throne says, Matt and Svon, is there anything you are particularly excited about

02:12:20.080 for the next four years after Trump's victory?

02:12:27.800 Yeah, a bunch of things on a personal level.

02:12:30.960 Um, I really, really hope that we hope the, so the swamp really gets drained.

02:12:43.680 I hope that we get an emphasis on truth and like honest things.

02:12:53.060 I think that's been really missing.

02:12:55.820 and i think this is a really good opportunity to cut through things that are fundamentally dishonest

02:13:06.700 and to get things to be truthful and more just in a lot of ways i'm also excited about the idea of

02:13:18.060 you know making america healthy again we all see the health crisis that we face

02:13:22.860 in america get a lot of folks commenting negatively when i post pictures of our moots

02:13:29.100 about all the fat people and i think there's a couple of things i want to say to that and

02:13:34.780 it's a strange way to get there but the united states has a has a big obesity problem 0.97

02:13:43.180 and on one level yeah it looks gross and we don't want a bunch of fatties we want people

02:13:47.500 look awesome and be in good shape but in a very serious way there's so much health problems that

02:13:53.580 come with it there's so many things and i think obesity is a really obvious something you can see

02:14:00.860 when you encounter people that expresses ill health um but you know the percentage of americans that

02:14:12.780 are obese is staggering and the health implications of that are terrible but also the the self-esteem

02:14:21.660 and the spiritual implications of that the leak is part of our soul it's part of our soul complex

02:14:30.380 and if the leak is sick and

02:14:35.580 not beautiful that's bad we should try to make that the best we can the idea if it's followed

02:14:46.300 through on on make america healthy again and fix our food to where it's more nutritious and less

02:14:54.060 having a tendency to cause a number of health problems obesity is just the obvious one that we

02:15:00.140 see is a good thing and the other thing i just want to make the note of we are a church of the

02:15:06.220 iser and we're trying to bring all of our folk home our people come to us in various states of

02:15:13.980 excellence or various states of disrepair the importance is they're coming home everybody

02:15:20.460 starts where they start we can waste time crying about why that is but it's much more productive

02:15:29.020 to encourage the people that do come home to do their very best and to try to help them get

02:15:34.780 healthier so many of us have done that when i first got involved in house true i was i was a

02:15:39.260 much fatter gentleman than i am today i've tried to really make progress on that but i think a lot

02:15:46.700 of us have i've seen a number of our people really do a lot to fix their lives in a health way like

02:15:57.260 with other health things in a physical fitness way in a moral and spiritual way in an education way

02:16:05.660 in an economic way so it's easy to poke fun if there's a picture of people that don't look

02:16:11.980 perfect and yeah i want to have people that look amazing for the the afa recruiting poster too

02:16:19.580 but i'm really happy that all our people show up and i love to have our folk come home

02:16:25.100 and I'd love to help our folk in any way we can so they can be the very best they can be

02:16:31.640 and I really hope and I look to my I look to my folk to help me be better in the ways that I need

02:16:38.520 to be better we all are to one degree or another askew from perfection and we should all strive

02:16:47.060 towards it and that's the important thing it's not you know like I said it's easy to recognize

02:16:54.700 as imperfection. But it's a harder thing to encourage and help people become closer to

02:17:04.840 that perfection that we all would like to achieve. And I think we're doing a good job

02:17:08.800 of that in the AFA. I've seen a lot of stories about that. I've felt it in my own life. I've

02:17:12.680 seen it in my own health. I've seen it in the health of my family. So there's a lot going on

02:17:18.440 with that. And this is a strange rabbit trail on your question. But I think that it's what's

02:17:23.660 relevant about your question it's the it's the um stuff we're looking forward to in the you know

02:17:32.000 after the trump victory and i talked about the make america healthy again thing being really

02:17:36.320 important to help some of our our folks that struggle so much with obesity and other things

02:17:41.900 but what i wanted to get you on and i was waiting for you to come back for

02:17:45.500 So, is Jarnsaxa here the same as Thor's wife and mother of Ullr? Also, are Jarnsaxa and Sif different, or is Jarnsaxa a name for Sif?

02:17:59.860 I think you will break this down in a way that, in the most complete way, so go ahead and take this.

02:18:05.300 yeah uh one of the things i had mentioned earlier about snorri and his usage of the word jotin

02:18:15.520 and kind of in leads with some of the questions that were spoken of jotin doesn't mean enemy

02:18:21.620 jotin really means like the the best way to view it is is an elder being an old being um

02:18:32.940 And it has connotations to consumption and destruction, or as I often say, it's resistance and then dissipation. 0.65

02:18:43.700 Jotunheim in the East is the force in the material that pushes things that break things down, and then it sops up things.

02:18:52.740 It consumes it in a way. 1.00

02:18:54.400 And these ancient forces are continuously doing this while the Vanir are placing in life and pulling out death. 1.00

02:19:04.280 They're working with the soul substance of the animal and the plant, if you will. 0.99

02:19:11.280 But so it goes into Snorri and the usage of the word Jotun in relation to certain beings.

02:19:22.900 and like one that's easy to to point out is uh yours the the goddess of the earth fjorgin um

02:19:34.180 and and the referencing towards her is this correct or not i don't again i don't assume i'm just

02:19:42.420 presenting the idea that or just presenting the notion that uh there was some incorrect placements

02:19:50.180 on the titling of that or there was knowledge that was lost by Snorri and he didn't understand

02:19:57.220 the levels and so he created certain hierarchical things in order to make things organized just like

02:20:05.220 our ancestors didn't call the Himenvarðr the Himenvarðr. We do that now because it helps us

02:20:13.380 organize things. First asterisk, I have no idea if our ancestors called them the him and brother.

02:20:22.660 Yeah, I... For all we know they could have. There is that. I mean,

02:20:28.660 then they didn't write it down or something, but...

02:20:30.900 hmm um iron saxa and and thor's relations to the middle are often forgot about um

02:20:44.580 thor has these uh and i think these stories are lost but perfect example of this he gains the

02:20:51.780 iron rod from grither in order to fight off as he's establishing his dominion in the middle

02:20:58.500 and re kind of taking over things he interplays with the middle beings of jotunheim and and i

02:21:05.860 would say the vanir um in order to kind of establish his dominion and what's that one

02:21:14.740 is a fun fact i think that one of witten swan's favorite pieces of our lore is thor's oft forgotten

02:21:23.780 iron beaten stick i think that is that is spawn's particular thing that he really likes and i

02:21:31.300 appreciate that because it is something that doesn't get talked about a lot and it's kind of

02:21:34.740 neat yeah and it runs to the nick can probably pull up a picture of its featuring in the

02:21:42.180 magnificent thor mural that's fun our very own witness fawn painted at thor's hall yeah the the

02:21:51.700 the cruddle uh it's called the war cruddle or the combat cruddle or the the combat staff the um

02:22:01.140 means that which is you know constantly fighting against and that is i mean she is listed as a

02:22:08.660 jotun um as well as yarth is also listed as a young his mother um i think that the semantics

02:22:18.660 of that at this point before the war of the isir when the vanir and the yachtins are

02:22:25.300 kind of duking it out in the middle there is a cause of great confusion um but is yard

02:22:32.580 saxas if i do not believe that is the case i do believe that yarn saxa is one of

02:22:40.100 of the daughters of Yardr.

02:22:44.900 So as I had said, Thor is establishing his dominion

02:22:50.000 in the middle world.

02:22:51.140 He grows to his full maturity.

02:22:53.200 He is the child of peace.

02:22:55.440 He, his coming into the world basically stops the war

02:23:02.600 between cosmic order and natural law.

02:23:05.580 Lord Odin was being Lord Odin and doing great things.

02:23:10.100 And he, in essence, solidified their peace in Thor.

02:23:15.780 So when Thor comes in, he establishes his power in the middle world.

02:23:22.320 And in doing so, I think his interaction with, yes, there it is.

02:23:29.780 And his belt is called Yordh Mayan, or excuse me, Mayan Yordh, which means earth might.

02:23:40.100 you know, the copper belt around the iron rod, if you will. And he establishes this dominance by

02:23:53.740 working with certain key elemental forces in the middle. Gríðr, in which he gains his first weapon

02:24:02.860 long before Mjolnir. And I'm of belief that he will give one to one son and Mjolnir to the other.

02:24:14.940 But that also too, he ends up working with forces in the middle. Now, whether our ancestors were

02:24:23.860 looking at Lord Thor and perhaps a literal river, and this kind of marriage between the two divines

02:24:31.800 was noted and thus, you know, produced his offspring before he marries Sif. And again,

02:24:44.040 all of these things are about interplays of the divine and how a marriage and familial relations

02:24:52.000 are all ways in which we as humans can relate to the great willful cosmic forces that are the gods.

02:25:00.160 that's why christianity you know formulated because it needed a mortal in order to get

02:25:07.860 people to relate um and a lot of religions do this whether they do them through prophets or

02:25:14.200 what have you the um the divine is you know not fully encapsulated so they they mortalize it

02:25:22.400 well we did the same thing over time eventually kind of painting the gods um in relatable ways

02:25:29.900 in order for us to understand so lord thor is in the middle he's interacting with all of these

02:25:37.900 forces in the middle all of these yachtin and vanir and whether or not snorty got all of these

02:25:43.820 titles right or not i'm not going to try to pick through them or or say one way or the other but

02:25:50.140 his aligning with iarnsaxa um i believe is different than later on he aligns and becomes

02:26:01.900 in union with sif i think that from a perspective of say like stories this would be relatable in

02:26:11.500 the idea that you know our ancestors did have dynamic family situations there were people that

02:26:18.620 would get married people that would die there was you know splits and divorces and wars and things

02:26:24.540 would would creep up um in between so our ancestors did relate to the idea of like having a stepson

02:26:34.140 um but i don't know about the literalism of that i think it's more about the relation

02:26:40.140 ullr is synthesized from other powers and lord thor is now synthesizing with

02:26:47.340 the feminine that created ullr so that would translate into you're a stepson it makes it

02:26:56.060 relatable um i have always taken to that yarn saksa is one of the nine daughters of uh lord

02:27:06.700 and that snorri may have been off with his titling of jotun and again i think if he didn't know

02:27:16.700 or had no previous knowledge that's what he slapped on because ancient being it's it's a safe

02:27:22.700 word um for a 12th century poet who's not even practicing the faith of his of his uh say his

02:27:30.860 grandfather, um, is trying to make sense of everything. Um, but Sif is never mentioned as

02:27:39.360 to exactly where she is originated from, nor is even, and I don't think, I mean, unless we can

02:27:47.100 find some clues to balance, or there's an interjection of perhaps religious, um, insight

02:27:55.560 to this you know forcing it i think is not the thing to do but you know we we see sif connected

02:28:03.720 to uh there was one scholar who said you know her name most likely is connected to sib which means

02:28:10.680 family in in old norse um and i think that has merit actually i think the way that god's

02:28:17.960 help us understand them is through kind of collecting things or showing signposts

02:28:24.120 um the orchard or not the orchard excuse me the the field the land around the home

02:28:30.840 the home itself the family are kind of all interconnected um so i know some people are

02:28:36.920 like sif is connected to wheat fields and others are like no no no linguistically it's the family

02:28:45.160 and i think the overall message that sif is sending to us is no i am i am the entirety of

02:28:53.160 that i am the the land the the fruit of the land and the fruit of the father and the mother and

02:29:01.800 the children the the wheat fields that they grow in blood um i know that sounds kind of ominous

02:29:08.600 but or maybe pretty metal but um that's kind of the where she has her dominion and iarnsaxa is

02:29:23.160 different. And because I also believe that Heimdall may be that central place, whether

02:29:31.040 it's Hyperborea or the heart of the Caucasus Mountains or what have you, this place where

02:29:36.980 the nine rivers intersect into this place where Heimdall is born. I think that Lord Thor was

02:29:47.100 interacting with a very powerful um element that was around and in our ancestors

02:29:56.380 and i'm talking pre-historical ancestors the stories just carried this you know into the

02:30:02.540 nordic age um and that's what kind of again connects him um to the middle and during his

02:30:12.380 relations before i guess marrying see for you know if we're looking at timelines and stuff um

02:30:22.220 yeah and then i saw another question here about yarn socks uh connected to sex net of the saxons

02:30:31.260 and i figured that would be good to address them both kind of in the same area um there's

02:30:39.260 a question here by hamawiz he says also is it possible that yarn saksa is related to sex not

02:30:48.540 the god of the saxons or is this a generic description of a knife um first off i think

02:30:56.380 in the nordic sense the word saksa doesn't mean knife it means sword or short sword um and i

02:31:05.820 think that's the general sense amongst the elder saxons uh whether they're connected or not i

02:31:12.700 don't know unless that's perhaps another clue see the gods know the gods are real and they know

02:31:20.060 these kind of things i think in reality attaining knowledge is is only attained through

02:31:27.420 introspections so perhaps you just give you just gave the signpost what if there is

02:31:33.980 is perhaps a place in which the nine rivers coalesce to the water. And that may be of the

02:31:41.320 Saxon people. I have a tendency to believe that Saxon is an ascended, either an ascended

02:31:48.440 ancestor of the Saxons, or he is an avatar of one of the gods. And I would lean more towards

02:32:00.720 the holy fray in relation to the way that the saxons um have such a high reverence for him

02:32:09.380 um and avatars is a whole nother like rabbit hole to get down but um as far as their

02:32:18.500 correlation together i don't know um yeah i just wanted to hit that one too oh and

02:32:29.160 sorry there was one from nick way way earlier and i found the answer for it i want to say it

02:32:35.800 before i forget it um nick you you asked uh svan is it the volus bow in h-i-n skama or is it the

02:32:47.240 volus bow in skama and i assume it's hin is what you said as that's what the majority of sources

02:32:54.920 list but i noticed bellows did not and he wrote i and this website does have some misspellings but

02:33:01.400 it is h-i-n you are correct and hin means the lesser than so uh the volus bow in skama literally

02:33:12.920 means like or the other sorry the other skama means lesser than so it is the other lesser than

02:33:21.240 is the kind of direct translation

02:33:28.200 all right um so this is an interesting question and i got thoughts on it

02:33:36.840 nathan writings asks do you ever worry that by establishing alsatru as an official religion with

02:33:42.680 a consolidated authority that it runs the risk of diminishing local cultural influences also

02:33:50.600 at the root of pagan practices uh following this is follow-up especially on a global scale where

02:33:58.680 the ancestors and local spirits of the land may bring very unique practices no okay

02:34:06.840 no i don't worry that at all as a matter of fact i think it protects and safeguards that

02:34:13.480 that but I do absolutely acknowledge what you're saying like I see I see that thought process and

02:34:24.100 it and it makes sense um so

02:34:34.540 and I'm going to try to draw this in a way that makes sense it's one of those

02:34:38.500 there's countless factors to it. And I hope this communicates what I'm thinking in the best way

02:34:46.600 that makes it all make sense. I think establishing a strong and centralized, unified authority of

02:34:58.440 also true carves out a place for our faith in the world i think you need the strength of that

02:35:10.840 and strengthen a couple of different ways their strength of tradition over the course of years

02:35:18.120 there's strength of numbers um their strength of economics and their strength of consistency

02:35:28.440 in what's being presented i think by having all of those things you carve a place in the world

02:35:39.560 for our folk and for our faith and within that you have the inn and guard secured to where local

02:35:50.920 traditions can develop and be embraced and be celebrated we have seen in our ancestors day

02:35:59.640 and we see in our day a great weakness in

02:36:07.160 completely diffused decentralized everybody do their own thing aussitrew what it means is when

02:36:14.680 when someone says also true, it doesn't mean anything.

02:36:19.820 And I think we've gone a long way to fixing that,

02:36:22.820 but in an absence of consolidating and centralizing

02:36:29.020 and unifying, it means any number of random things

02:36:34.620 on a massive spectrum.

02:36:37.920 And if you mean everything, you also mean nothing

02:36:42.740 because the word has no meaning.

02:36:44.680 And when we establish a meaning and stand by it and unify behind it, then when others look up Ausitru and Google Ausitru and see what this is all about, they will know something as opposed to, ah, it seems like all these people just want to do whatever they want to do.

02:37:08.320 and that's what we've suffered for from or from for a really long time i've watched and one of

02:37:15.660 the biggest problems with the progress of modern aussitrew has been everyone always constantly

02:37:23.220 rushing to break off and do their own thing and we all we reduce back to zero every year is year

02:37:31.880 one of modern aussitry and you can never make progress that way it's a self-imposed sisyphean

02:37:42.680 struggle of trying to push this boulder up a hill and every new person who has an ambition

02:37:50.040 kicks your legs out from under you and the boulder rolls back down the hill and you start at the

02:37:53.720 bottom again it's really important to not do that we are finishing up the 30th year of the

02:38:00.760 ASATRU Folk Assembly this year. Next year we will be celebrating the 30 years of consistent

02:38:08.600 ASATRU Folk Assembly building, maintaining, and advancing modern ASATRU. And I think that's

02:38:16.760 extremely important because without that I don't think we have the beautiful local traditions and

02:38:25.880 local culture that you mentioned now i think that at this point global ambitions are kind of

02:38:35.560 nebulous i'd love to see us have a greater international presence with our folk abroad

02:38:42.120 i think there's countless different versions of things in different places

02:38:47.400 to where there is local tradition and local vibrant arian paganism but i think those are you

02:38:58.280 know largely not visible to united states audience and i think that they're a unique situation so i

02:39:04.840 don't want to overstep that i think those things need to be talked about individually

02:39:09.960 but i think certainly here in the united states

02:39:12.360 absolutely we need centralized house of truth moving forward to establish things to solidify

02:39:20.100 things and to direct things moving forward the existence of centralized authority doesn't

02:39:28.200 prevent local expression that's a myth that's something that

02:39:32.640 forces of disorder like to throw out there as an excuse an excuse for a couple of different things

02:39:43.320 we've seen it as an excuse for people to just have license to be degenerates

02:39:48.300 but we've also seen it as an excuse to not have to answer to anyone and I think all of us to one

02:39:56.960 degree or another have a discomfort at being told what to do or feeling like we're having to be

02:40:04.900 beholden to someone higher than us on a food chain. And I think that's due to a lot of different

02:40:14.980 factors. Some of them is having an ambitious spirit and a will to power and good inherent

02:40:24.600 instincts in Aryan people. Some of it has to do with the soul sickness that has sought for the 1.00

02:40:30.540 last, you know, 250 or so years to erode trust in authority, trust in, you know, order and structure

02:40:46.100 and things that our Aryan ancestors held to be very valuable. There's a combination of things

02:40:52.500 there and there's a balance to be had but no i absolutely not only do i'm not worried that it

02:40:58.420 will diminish cultural influence i think it is the only thing that can preserve and protect

02:41:04.820 the ability for cultural influence it's what stands against the overwhelming tide of

02:41:15.300 corporate monoculture eroding all the things that we have value we do that when we stand strong

02:41:21.620 together we are completely ineffective when we're little islands of four fat dudes in the

02:41:29.140 backyard on camp chairs fighting about who gets the big piece of chicken

02:41:35.700 i say that i've sat in those camp chairs and i've fought for my piece of chicken

02:41:42.340 anybody who's been doing this since the early 2000s knows exactly what i'm talking about those of

02:41:49.060 us or those who have been doing this since the 90s or before perhaps know in an even

02:41:54.100 more visceral way what i'm talking about i remember i remember sitting around a pit

02:42:04.820 in the back of a trailer park that we were burning junk furniture around in camp chairs

02:42:12.260 with a two liter of soda and a rotisserie chicken i don't fault that as a place people start and

02:42:22.560 i'm laughing because i was there i'm telling you i'm not making fun i was that guy we've been there

02:42:26.580 but worked really hard to move us on to something better and a lot of us have worked really hard to

02:42:33.520 move us on to something better to keep knocking us back to sitting around the the burn pit you know 0.61

02:42:41.420 was, that's not something that rises to the glory of Arian divinity. We're trying to elevate and 0.61

02:42:49.800 restore the glory of our gods in Midgard. And we're working really hard to achieve that.

02:42:57.980 Our gods are gods of order. Being unified is orderly.

02:43:02.020 shunning any kind of authority shut just out of a not wanting to have somebody call shots

02:43:12.020 that's disorder and it's not healthy for our folk and it's just not practical and it doesn't move

02:43:18.640 us forward so that's that's a lot on your question i don't those are my thoughts on it's

02:43:24.840 fine do you have anything you want to add on that excuse me yes absolutely and i hate to be like the

02:43:28.900 guy that's tagging on you hit a point and then i throw in a bunch of other scattering stuff but

02:43:34.660 the one i mean it amplifies or exemplifies excuse me it exemplifies uh of course in our faith is

02:43:43.360 that when the forces of dissipation are coming in and tearing apart those that are separate

02:43:51.780 and we see this time and time again whether it's in the godly form or whether it's in the mortal

02:43:57.420 form, but the moment that they come together and unify against the dissipated forces, then

02:44:04.880 it survives. So the Aesir and the Vanir become the totality of the gods, the Aesir against 0.92

02:44:13.780 resistance, against the dissipated forces. So that kind of exemplifies things. But I

02:44:20.680 wanted to say, you said consolidated authority. I think that's really important to differentiate

02:44:26.700 because those two don't usually, and also a year ago, they said it, they don't always mean the

02:44:32.460 same thing. Consolidated authority doesn't mean death of local or familial issues or traditions

02:44:40.660 or ideas. One of the things that I've noticed is that other people who are attempting,

02:44:47.540 they've started out their year zero and maybe they're in their year ones or twos, these other

02:44:52.980 kind of Ousitre groups, when you read their stuff, their stuff is super confining. You're

02:44:58.380 going to lay down this, uh, altar in this way. You're going to have your, you know, your, your

02:45:03.780 sticks and your squares and your, all of these things are going to be set up in specific ways

02:45:08.920 with all these little accoutrements everywhere. And, um, and that's the way we do this with

02:45:13.400 structure and it's, it's, um, but no, the Ousitre Folk Assembly has gone in a, in a different way.

02:45:18.940 And I think it's because, one, we've got large numbers. Two, we have temples. And three, we've got heads on our shoulders that are firmly placed. Instead, we started looking at blotar based on, like, breaking it down into three steps.

02:45:38.040 A bloat is only really three sections. And the reason why we did that is specifically because every temple, every kindred and every family may have unique things that they like or they will do in their in their bloats.

02:45:56.000 So as long as we frame to everyone, these are the three sections you must have. You must come into the place with sacred thought and be clean and prepared. You must exchange the gift cycle with the gods and speak through the transference.

02:46:14.920 And then you must exit out. And sometimes that exiting out takes the form of a maypole or jumping a fire or, you know, wafting smoke or burning a ship, whatever it might be.

02:46:28.640 We broke it down far more simply because we understood that people had different expressions.

02:46:37.040 Sometimes, for instance, Baldershof versus Odenshof.

02:46:43.860 Odenshof has strictures on fire based on whether it's dry outside or not.

02:46:51.200 But they have a big fireplace or a fire pit.

02:46:55.500 And then Baldershof doesn't.

02:46:57.480 they just can't facilitate it because of the way that it's structured um so these considerations

02:47:04.220 create local ways in which things are done sometimes what would be a bonfire or a fire at

02:47:13.400 at Odin's Hof is a lamp or a lantern at Baldur's and you find these kind of unique things and then

02:47:20.320 when we like get to go to other Hoffs and go to national events and see people doing things in

02:47:27.980 different areas, it's always just a little bit different. There's never any just, you know,

02:47:34.220 follow step one, follow step two, follow step three. And I am guilty of that. I am a big,

02:47:40.980 you know i collective follow the the sops um but it's been a learning curve for me especially

02:47:50.840 talking with the gothar that these unique things go i dissolved my kindred and i was like no we're

02:47:58.160 going all it's just it's just the trihorn and we're doing and al saragoth he was like no listen

02:48:03.840 people need to express themselves locally. You can't just like graywash everyone. So he kind of

02:48:11.240 pulled me into check on some of that stuff. And it, it's not that that's what he wants.

02:48:17.180 That's what's happening, you know, and, and observing that and seeing that,

02:48:21.980 that doesn't go away. So the, uh, I think what Alciargot really said too, about the,

02:48:27.540 the forces outside of us that try to diminish our achievements and diminish our mission

02:48:33.880 will say, oh, you can't do this and you can't do that with the AFA. Again, there's an open door

02:48:41.240 policy you can ask and you'll find out very honestly whether or not something is agreed

02:48:47.740 upon or not. And you generally could just look around at other kindreds and see that they express

02:48:54.540 themselves in individual ways. Every place has, you know, there's the, the water hole at New

02:48:59.620 Earth's Hof that has like, has a gator in it now, uh, a, a land white, if you will. Um, it's, 0.81

02:49:07.020 it's unique to itself and there's so much, but the authority that's consolidated to keep us forward,

02:49:15.380 to keep us looking forward, to keep us looking upward, to constantly remind us you got to keep

02:49:21.260 working. And two, you can't settle on, you know, just where you're at. That's what we need. That's

02:49:27.560 what Ausitru has always needed. I've been since the nineties and Ausitru has lacked that. Ausitru

02:49:34.640 has lacked your basic red line. And the AFA is trying to say, Hey, look, this is the basic red

02:49:40.880 line. Anything outside of that, that is local. And as long as it's not placed in perhaps like,

02:49:48.320 you know ill thought like uh based in a negative you know you're teaching your children to like 0.88

02:49:54.160 hate something um you know like you're gonna hold a bloat but there's gonna be like the yotans you 0.54

02:50:00.960 know semite that we're gonna burn or whatever that starts to that's like i'm bringing that up because

02:50:06.640 of the question earlier that's when it starts to get off and you might you'll have gothar trying

02:50:12.800 to guide you as ergo they will step in and guide you and to certain degrees but as long as it's

02:50:18.720 built on the positive it's built on the noble you know expression locally um and then speaking of

02:50:26.320 the list of the gods we've already spoken about this the list of the gods is the red line um i

02:50:32.160 know personally that there is a gothar who honors the goddess hretha and i have talked to him about

02:50:40.880 linguistics and so on and so forth but when he was coming up into the faith that was that the anglo

02:50:46.800 saxon goddess uh retha the the goddess of like the ice shine and i had brought up connectivity

02:50:54.800 towards render the house australia render but we're not cramming and he said no i will hold

02:51:02.240 and reserve this belief um for myself and it's not outside of our faith it's not foreign and nobody

02:51:11.600 you know objected to it um and he's gothar so we said you know this is the red line built upon it

02:51:18.720 expound upon it and make it unique but we're together in this and we're under one banner

02:51:24.960 i'm gonna piggyback onto this with a discussion that's kind of going on in the comments

02:51:31.680 and i'm just going to skip forward we'll go back to some other questions i think this is particularly

02:51:35.760 relevant to the discussion we're having the wolf throne asks if house true gets big enough

02:51:40.880 would the afa consider establishing different sects of worship within the afa like we could

02:51:46.880 have a sect that particularly worships thor as a patron like a modern day cult of thor there

02:51:52.800 could be an entire sect that focuses on heimdall uh heimdall or odin or freya etc etc i guess

02:52:00.800 is kind of similar to the different sects of Sanatana Dharma, Vaishnaism, Shivaism, Brahmana,

02:52:12.000 etc. So we get into some semantic arguments that they're having over the side.

02:52:18.740 As separate religions and different things, no, because that doesn't move us forward,

02:52:25.880 and it's not what is exemplified by our gods and by Ausgarth.

02:52:36.100 As cults of individual gods, absolutely.

02:52:39.960 I would love to see that develop,

02:52:41.500 and that does develop to a degree at our Hoffs

02:52:46.120 that are devoted to a particular Aus.

02:52:49.760 We see that, and I think that will increase over the years

02:52:53.880 If everyone goes and practices Ausatru at Thorshof, their bond with Ausathor is going to be particularly important.

02:53:04.740 And I think that that may be seen in really small ways right now, but I think as time goes on, that will be developed in bigger and more beautiful ways.

02:53:19.700 I'd love to see that happen at each of our haves.

02:53:22.180 And I think that's amazing and awesome.

02:53:25.220 That's done within the auspices and the authority that has to focus on.

02:53:30.800 One of the things that we look to as an example and we follow a lot in our lore is how things are in Ausgarther.

02:53:42.420 We focus a lot on the Gilfaginning to take a lot of our...

02:53:47.380 it expresses a lot of these things it hits a lot of things at once in a very concise and

02:53:54.300 digestible way that makes sense and expresses things really clearly and it's very clear that

02:54:02.140 there's a unified authority in in ausgarther there's a unified way things are done odin

02:54:10.300 rules over the other gods as if they he is their father and they're his children and literally in

02:54:15.740 in the lore it speaks that way there's authority from a central you know the king of ausgard

02:54:23.580 and that's how that works and functions in a unified way um we've seen that being the only

02:54:30.700 way that's functioned well in modern also true and it's it's really important and i'm we deal

02:54:37.020 with different things in the world that we live in and we're in a time where that's not fashionable

02:54:44.540 in the west and we go against a very strong current in our folk in the united states to

02:54:55.420 be distrustful of centralized authority on stuff and i get that and i understand

02:55:02.460 the historical context and i i'm aware sometimes of how i come off but one of the reasons that i

02:55:12.860 do that is I believe really strongly in it. And I'm aware that sometimes I'm going to have to

02:55:23.640 take stands that make me look like, I don't know, that make me look like a jerk and that may make 0.99

02:55:30.080 me look like whatever. But it's essential. And I would rather I take that hit than us keep having 0.99

02:55:39.620 this discussion till eternity and not move forward there's a right way and a wrong way to do things

02:55:49.060 sometimes i take stands that you know are important that may make you know people

02:55:55.780 gnash their teeth at me trying to i don't know trying to be the also pope or whatever people say

02:56:01.540 but i want also here you go through number three to be in a much more secure position

02:56:07.700 and I want to also hear you go through number four and five and six and seven and 53 to be

02:56:15.260 secure in a spot where they're leading our faith and leading our folk and to get us closer to where

02:56:22.280 we ought to be than we are today and we found a formula that works really well towards that

02:56:29.800 we're nowhere near where we'd like to be but we're so much closer than we were and every year we're

02:56:36.400 closer still hopefully before you know before i leave midgard we will be so much closer

02:56:48.720 but hopefully we get much closer after that hopefully we're always moving forward we're

02:56:53.520 always building we're always achieving we're always becoming more than we are and uh doing

02:57:00.320 so in a unified fashion is how we do that and uh so that's a fundamental of the afa we believe that

02:57:08.640 strongly um got some other questions here i want to find our spot so i'm not skipping anything

02:57:19.600 um oh this this chat is on fire and we've had a really good chat room the past couple weeks and

02:57:26.320 i'm really happy about that i just this is a good as as good a time as any thank you everybody who

02:57:33.840 tunes in week in and week out to participate and move this forward um we had 15 stanzas of lore

02:57:44.000 tonight so your y'all's questions and places that you take it in the chat that's so much of what

02:57:50.000 drives the program and i think it's really important i appreciate you guys being here

02:57:54.640 and asking questions and participating and having respectful discussion in the chat room i think it's

02:58:00.720 it's a really cool thing to see and i'm very glad we have that um

02:58:08.800 ah okay so otto ernst linderman i saw you make some comments on our um what's it called

02:58:17.280 community tab on youtube as well when we put out this stuff so when those we had two hurricanes

02:58:24.000 hit kind of back to back and the concern about florida was we weren't sure how the next one was

02:58:31.840 going to hit them um that's an inside thing but you asked you know why the emphasis on florida

02:58:38.080 because that the appalachian folk were hit so much more i don't know if you caught it a few weeks ago

02:58:46.160 but um two of our folk builders one of which lives in the affected area in north carolina

02:58:53.040 and the other all the way from montana went out along with a number of other volunteers with the

02:58:58.160 afa and with other groups that care about our folk and spent spent better part of two weeks

02:59:07.600 in disaster relief in the rural rural north carolina so we put in a lot of effort there

02:59:15.040 trying to help folks i say we some of our people did and a lot of you guys donated to that so we

02:59:21.680 were able to provide funds and help for a lot of folks there and i'm really proud of the folks that

02:59:28.160 put that in and spent that effort uh folk builder tyler heineland and folk builder tyler buffet

02:59:36.080 really really made us proud during that your you said your question is how are the members

02:59:41.600 in west north carolina and east tennessee area doing haven't heard anything about them from the

02:59:45.920 AFA. We did a whole show on that a few weeks back. If you check back in our stuff, that may tell you

02:59:52.500 a little bit more about the situation. As it was, our membership, fortunately, was spared the worst

03:00:01.540 of that. Some people got some flood surge, but not a lot. But our folk, in a bigger sense,

03:00:09.820 were very affected and we've you know did a lot to to help those folks specifically

03:00:17.260 those young men with uh with the two tylers there and their uh their fraternal order of the wolf

03:00:25.340 hednar um they put in a lot of work for that and uh they would have like i said that previous video

03:00:33.500 tell you a little bit more about the situation but fortunately our full you know our members did

03:00:40.140 did fine during it and were spared but other folks in the community we've continued to try to be

03:00:45.980 helpful there where we can and and really step up and so many of our people really dug deep and

03:00:52.460 donated to provide you know provide funds to help make some of that happen so we care a lot about

03:01:01.180 that and some of our members really put in a whole lot of themselves to do what they could to help

03:01:07.020 wish we could do more um okay so question kind of a inside question but might as well

03:01:16.300 answer it here because it's easier ryan ryan uh wotenson question i got one email regarding

03:01:22.940 that yoast material but nothing since when can i get the yoast turner essays meditations etc

03:01:28.620 I will try to expedite that. I passed that on to the McNallans as they're the ones that have

03:01:36.180 the most immediate access to stuff. And he was such a close personal friend to Steve and such

03:01:43.280 a profound influence on Steve. I will check in on that. I wouldn't expect an immediate turnaround

03:01:52.020 around on that. I spent the last weekend with them. We were all up in South Dakota at Feast

03:01:58.580 of the Einar Yahr. I'm going to see the McNallans again this weekend at our local Odenshof Feast

03:02:05.080 of the Einar Yahr, and I will check in with them on that. And I'll try to keep nudging

03:02:09.900 that along to make sure they get to you. But balls out of my court for some of the material 0.66

03:02:15.940 is I don't have the immediate access to it. But keep reminding me and I'm going to do

03:02:20.860 what I can, okay? I skipped around a little bit, so I got to sort through. All right. Wolf Throne asks,

03:02:30.560 Matt, as a martial artist, what is your opinion of Shaolin Kung Fu? Does it look practical?

03:02:38.120 No, it looks ridiculous, but that doesn't mean it is. So here's a thing. 0.73

03:02:44.800 there is a and i think i don't think there is any style of martial art that doesn't do this

03:02:54.980 to one degree or another and i think it is natural to root for the home team

03:02:59.180 but there's this idea that like no my martial art this is the only real martial art and everything 0.94

03:03:04.720 else that doesn't work in real life that's these people are dumb you need to do insert whatever 1.00

03:03:10.360 whatever you do is the thing that works and everybody else's thing is stupid 0.99

03:03:15.500 and it is a common malady in martial arts to where every dojo thinks that 0.98

03:03:23.380 um we've had waves of that in the dojo i train at where anybody else that

03:03:29.680 you know is skilled at something else no no no that's that's not the real way to do it we know

03:03:34.760 the real stuff that's silly and i think it's counterproductive i think it's probably cool for

03:03:42.840 you know some internal esprit de corps but it's someone who trains and who trains often

03:03:52.360 and who's disciplined through years and years of training as legitimate shaolin monks are

03:03:58.120 are probably pretty good at the stuff they do is Shaolin style kung fu what I would choose as my

03:04:08.980 go-to fighting style if I had to choose one no probably not but the Shaolin guy could probably

03:04:18.160 do real good against random dude in an alley who bumps into him and there's a problem I think that

03:04:24.280 we envision physical confrontation inside the confines of a steel cage.

03:04:31.280 I think the popularity of mixed martial arts in that context, which I think is really cool

03:04:39.180 and I'm a fan of, it sometimes removes us from what you're likely to face in real life

03:04:49.500 in a real situation with real people where there's not rules there's not referees there's not stuff

03:04:55.420 things work a little bit different in my experience and i don't say this as a martial

03:05:02.320 artist i say that as a bouncer and a guy that's been in fights and seen stuff that works and stuff

03:05:07.460 that doesn't um i think we've all probably seen the video and this reel goes around and i think

03:05:16.060 it's pretty old of this white dude and there's a bunch of black guys around him and they try to

03:05:21.380 get to fight with him and he goes into this absurd like horse stance martial arts pose that just 0.97

03:05:30.700 looks absolutely ridiculous and he looks like a buffoon and then he proceeds to destroy his 0.96

03:05:37.400 opponents and it looks silly but the guy trains and he knows what he's doing and the other guy's 1.00

03:05:43.420 just trying to be tough. So I think training's awesome. And I think that if you are devoting

03:05:49.560 your time to Shaolin Kung Fu and you spend your time on that, you're probably not somebody that

03:05:56.460 the average guy who tries to pick a fight with really wants to test. I think if you're talking

03:06:03.460 about what works in the world of competitive fighting, it's a real different thing. And I

03:06:08.800 don't really think that's something that most any of us, myself certainly included, are ever going

03:06:13.260 to interface with so you know any martial art is much better than no martial arts 0.94

03:06:22.140 and everybody's own martial art is the one that's the best and everybody else sucks

03:06:27.980 and that just seems to be that just seems to be how that works but no i don't think it's

03:06:36.600 ridiculous at all i think it's it's awesome what i think this is something else that i know to be

03:06:42.420 true the more you train in a martial context and the more you make yourself comfortable 0.72

03:06:53.460 and you develop muscle memory of doing martial things you internalize that

03:07:03.300 we talked a little bit earlier about the woad self and i think this is a little bit of that

03:07:09.780 and maybe more of the hammer, but you project a confidence and a powerful aura when you

03:07:22.860 are comfortable in conflict, when you're comfortable in physical altercation,

03:07:29.660 when you know what you're doing. And you may not notice it, but just the fact of you being

03:07:38.140 somebody who does martial arts and trains martial arts and keeps their mind and their body in a

03:07:44.620 martial state is going to get you out of a lot of bad situations you might otherwise find yourself

03:07:55.340 in people who are predators find there are predators out there and there are scavengers

03:08:04.780 and both of these are affected by this people look for an easy mark they look for somebody

03:08:11.420 who they are going to be able to embarrass or to take advantage of or to you know they look

03:08:19.980 for a path that is easy when you hold yourself in a martial way and you are confident in your

03:08:27.420 abilities through training and through muscle memory most people will continue looking for

03:08:35.020 an easier target or something that's you know going to be more compliant with what they want

03:08:42.620 to accomplish and i saw that when you know my years of bouncing when i first started i was in fights

03:08:49.420 often by the time i left i was in fights almost never it was less fun but magically people just

03:09:00.620 did what i asked them and maybe some of that is quote unquote street cred at the place i worked

03:09:07.820 at but it was tourists there were people in and out of there it wasn't that it was a comfort

03:09:15.180 in being in a confrontation and a comfort with

03:09:22.460 my own abilities and being being in that place mentally that and i saw this with people i worked

03:09:32.220 with as well no the guy that just came in there on the weekend was new and didn't know what they

03:09:36.620 were doing and acted scared that was the guy that was always in a fight and there was always something

03:09:42.380 that guy was always in peril. The people who are comfortable and weren't like that,

03:09:48.800 they were just fine. They would have to step in and engage with people to get other people out

03:09:53.520 of peril. But problems didn't come their way. And I think that that's a fundamental to any kind of

03:10:01.520 martial arts training. Also, as a plug for martial arts training, because I think it's really

03:10:06.580 important and it's helped me a lot it is a active it can be and it is for me an active meditation

03:10:17.700 we have so much stimulus in the world we live in today from all kinds of different sources

03:10:25.620 going into a dojo or wherever you do your thing and having to focus on a physical exertion

03:10:34.500 towards doing something well, doing something perfectly

03:10:39.720 and focusing on a task, especially repetitively,

03:10:46.020 gets you in a place where it takes you out of the mundane world

03:10:50.020 that you're dealing with and puts you in a special place

03:10:52.700 for a period of time where you can focus on developing

03:10:58.380 a martial bearing, engaging your body physically,

03:11:04.500 in something martial. And I think it's really valuable. I'd encourage everybody out there,

03:11:10.100 whatever you can, you know, whatever you can do. If it's boxing, awesome. If it's wrestling,

03:11:14.840 great. If it's karate, cool. If it's Taekwondo, okay, cool. Whatever it might be, if it's Brazilian

03:11:21.840 Jiu-Jitsu, if it's Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, if it's Shaolin Kung Fu, do something. And I think that's

03:11:28.200 really important, especially for the men. I also think it's important for the ladies too, but

03:11:32.680 specifically for the men i think it's essential

03:11:37.480 may i um yeah please yeah i i consider myself a bit of a martial artist

03:11:45.400 i got directed towards you and i was like what am i chopped liver over here

03:11:48.760 it's got some credit all the lore stuff is direct to you tonight i don't know what you're talking

03:11:52.280 about i um tell people your bona fides here swan's got some martial arts street cred here

03:12:04.520 um at nine years old i started in taekwondo and eventually switched over to hukkido

03:12:13.560 i went to korea when i was 15 and i fought a korean bell bellhop on the top of a hotel

03:12:21.640 um just because he he said taekwondo was better than hapkido um i had like a real kind of i don't

03:12:29.240 know kung fu movie moment there um but yeah i was 15 and i was attempting to um join the uh the

03:12:38.440 olympics even though i was a hapkido school you could uh fight in taekwondo tournaments um but

03:12:45.720 then uh later on i moved away from that started doing um brazilian jiu-jitsu um muay thai and

03:12:57.480 then uh filipino uh kali eskrima and indonesian penjax a lot with knife fighting and stuff like

03:13:05.160 that um and then i joined the marine corps i did their mcmap training their whole marine

03:13:10.840 core uh martial arts program then i got back and i actually did a shaolin kung fu um all of these

03:13:19.480 three i did for about a year or more um i did uh chi lin kung fu jaoga kung fu and wing chung kung

03:13:31.960 fu and um each one of those uniquely different but chi lin is derivative of shaolin um

03:13:40.120 jiao ga is not it's based off of hungar and the the tiger specifically jiao just is a family name

03:13:49.720 gar or ga is tiger so it's the tiger from the jow family and then wing chung um you know is

03:13:57.480 very, very different than most Kung Fus. Um, but always, you know, uh, mixed martial arts and,

03:14:06.760 uh, ground fighting have kind of always been my love and mainstay. Um, so yeah, that's my,

03:14:13.360 that's my like list, um, of stuff that I've been involved in. Um, I would say that the best way to

03:14:23.320 look at it is again, I'm bringing up the tripartite. There's always threes. The way you can look at 1.00

03:14:30.960 martial arts is in the East, there is forms in the West, there is drills. And then ultimately

03:14:36.740 they culminate to experience. So whenever I met someone who was training, like when I was training

03:14:43.480 in Chilean or Jauga, they had these forms that they would work on. And that's part of their

03:14:49.180 exercise and part of the formulation of their techniques when they thought it was not

03:14:55.340 the same it was muted it was straightforward it was built on the experience of fighting

03:15:02.540 but they still trained in their forms western martial arts uses drills and drills are again

03:15:08.940 trying to mimic experience does that have an advantage i i think so in some ways but that

03:15:15.420 doesn't mean that form isn't good there are martial artists out there who have proved that

03:15:19.900 form to experience is possible um i think that michael jai white is a perfect example of that

03:15:28.300 uh fumio demura from japan is a perfect example of form to experience um some of these guys come

03:15:35.740 in and they step into the octagon and everyone's kind of razzing on them for being traditional

03:15:39.340 martial arts and and and they rock and roll and and they really do some some heavy damage um but

03:15:45.740 they're far more rare i think than the drill aspect of western martial arts um and if you

03:15:51.580 could combine those two and then lead to experience like elsewhere go the when he's talking about

03:15:56.140 bouncing that's experience so whether form was there or not or whether drill was there or not

03:16:03.340 you know getting thrust into the experience ring kind of has a tendency to to teach you things um

03:16:12.140 shaolin kung fu is built around form the body dharma started kung fu as a series of exercises

03:16:19.580 to get the monks to to stop being you know uh skinny fat little you know like goobers up in

03:16:28.060 the hills and um started you know making them train more uh so if you look at it first is that

03:16:36.940 the kung fu is exercise and then built into because of experience they you know that's how

03:16:45.260 they kind of um moved in and they do have drills but yeah is it legitimate 100 with it what the

03:16:53.420 i was here ago they said it's it's better than nothing and yes it does i fought some guys who

03:16:58.940 are jiao ga and chi lin kung fu and they were some of the best fighters that i've ever squared up

03:17:05.980 and i've squared up with muay thai guys i squared up with boxers and uh or just general jeet kune do

03:17:13.020 and mma and what i noticed is they don't do a lot of the pomp and flair but their their basics of

03:17:21.340 forms are still there they'll be doing chi sows and they'll be doing all of their kind of

03:17:26.300 differential blocks and punches that are you know uh brought into forms they're doing a lot of like

03:17:33.180 hook passing and and like wide overhand the jaoga they the tiger punch that they would do

03:17:40.940 um they brought that into fighting it was just more streamlined based off of experience

03:17:46.620 um and it looked way different than say like boxing or kickboxing or whatever um

03:17:53.820 but yeah it's it's application and experience you do form you do drills and then you apply

03:18:00.060 an experience and i think that all has validity so i want to use a funky example

03:18:06.460 but i'm gonna use the nature blur rick flair yes

03:18:16.980 Muscle memory is a thing.

03:18:22.540 You could get the nature boy out there right now and say, do a Ric Flair match.

03:18:31.760 His match is the same all the time.

03:18:35.580 He has the same movesets.

03:18:38.360 Eventually, yeah, he's a thousand years old, so some of them are probably not going to work the way they used to.

03:18:45.980 But he can afford to not be mentally present because when you turn the switch on, he just goes.

03:18:55.460 And his body is used to the movements he makes and he can do all of the things that he's spent 50 years doing because his body knows how to do them.

03:19:08.680 one of the things with form and this is something that i'm working on right now in the dojo with a

03:19:16.600 fourth degree black belt that i've been training with it's just amazing so he's

03:19:21.960 trained a lot of different arts and um

03:19:29.640 he does a lot of like knife stuff and like a screamer

03:19:33.240 he's really good at cycling his hands on stuff and he's got super fast hands because he's got

03:19:40.900 an Escrima background and a Kempo background and so he's lightning fast with his hands it's terrifying 0.97

03:19:49.620 um but one thing he tells me about it is when you do cycle all of those things

03:19:56.520 the movements and the forms are there for a reason most martial arts go back to really

03:20:04.320 similar roots and are very incestuous so they borrow from each other they share learned knowledge

03:20:11.460 and there's only so many movements the human body does with our four limbs and just what you can do

03:20:17.820 but when you train that really well even if you miss one of the things with the hand cycling is

03:20:23.760 You pick up other stuff.

03:20:25.960 So if you're missing, you know, something gets through,

03:20:30.040 you've got a sequence of things that you do that work really well.

03:20:35.560 Just training stuff over the years when somebody's horsing around or whatever,

03:20:40.120 if I'm just grabbing them or getting out of the way or deflecting something,

03:20:43.580 all of a sudden I've got them in some kind of a wrist lock,

03:20:45.700 and I didn't know I put them there.

03:20:46.940 I'm like, oh, because I've trained that so many times,

03:20:50.460 my body just knows to do that.

03:20:53.760 and little things like that time matters seconds matter not sitting around and wondering what

03:21:03.040 you're going to do but just doing matters so the more time you put in the more that muscle muscle

03:21:09.680 memory is a hundred percent a thing so even if all it is is forms cool you have a muscle memory

03:21:17.520 you have a form for a bunch of different strikes at different levels for moving yourself offline

03:21:23.360 from different things that come your way and i think if you took the shaolin guy even if he looks

03:21:30.240 kind of silly in a modern context somewhere i think you'd be really surprised at some of the

03:21:36.480 stuff he pulls out that you didn't expect because his body just knows how to do that and so he

03:21:42.960 doesn't think he just does the quick if you can train yourself to just do without having to think

03:21:51.680 and be reactive all the time there's a real big benefit in that but yeah there's yes we're going

03:21:58.160 on a long tangent on it because it's something that we think is cool and you you happen to touch

03:22:02.640 on it but no it's really important and i would encourage everyone listening to this um

03:22:10.560 do martial arts of some sort some is better than none always

03:22:14.960 and i mean share what you know share it with others the best one of the coolest things about

03:22:24.600 mixed martial arts is the idea of of that of learning from different disciplines and different

03:22:32.540 things that work and incorporating those things um so yeah go out by all means do that um

03:22:41.840 i noticed some odd stuff here in the chat about accents i was wondering was i didn't catch all

03:22:50.480 of that or i guess somebody got i didn't ignore it ain't no big deal oh i didn't know if that was

03:22:58.080 directed towards me i i i no no it wasn't the conversation kind of kind of progressed it was

03:23:05.040 about me don't worry so but what we do have is a question and i think this harkens way back but i i

03:23:20.400 know when it was um is this a living religion if so then doesn't it make sense that the lived

03:23:28.880 experiences our our people should into enter into our religion is this not why we glorify new heroes

03:23:36.880 this is back when we were talking about

03:23:42.400 the yotnar representing um the jews or any other thing we want to make them represent

03:23:51.440 he did clarify though the question wasn't actually about that it was just oh okay

03:23:56.080 okay so i'm sorry i didn't see that we thought yeah it was around that time so it it because

03:24:04.880 it's like then shouldn't we okay so that being said um yeah of course it is and

03:24:15.200 our lived experience become part of the religion but we don't do that by

03:24:20.080 misappropriating things from the past. We do that by

03:24:26.740 inputting things in the present. But one of the tests of it

03:24:31.900 is if it is eternally true or if it is just situationally true. And those things come in

03:24:39.220 different forms. Our history is absolutely a part of it. And our history is defined by context,

03:24:46.960 bi-temporal, geopolitical, environmental, all of those things factor into the context of our heroes

03:24:57.700 whenever they lived. And it factors into the history of Ausatru and the history of who we are.

03:25:07.240 So context is really important in that sense. When it comes to, and this also, so it came in

03:25:11.980 the milieu of that, but it also came when we were talking a little bit about somebody suggesting,

03:25:16.740 well shouldn't we make new lore then sometimes and this and that

03:25:23.060 lore doesn't happen like that or authentic lore doesn't happen like that

03:25:30.420 the formulation of our lore as we have it is the process of untold generations of organic development

03:25:39.540 and it's not just making up stories it's expressing things expressing truth as it's been revealed

03:25:52.440 and sharing and comparing and expressing that truth with the input of other respected elders

03:26:03.240 and gothar in with similar or you know conflicting experience to solidify it and we do make

03:26:15.620 advancements that way um more often than i think folks might realize but those advancements come

03:26:22.580 in subtle understanding of different things in in small strokes you know we don't

03:26:30.200 guess what guys since last week's fun and i've come up with a new god that we're gonna

03:26:35.900 include in the pantheon it and i don't mean that to be silly but conceptually

03:26:41.940 that's not how that works but we do have revelations sometimes on things in in in sense of

03:26:49.940 all of a sudden something makes sense in a different way all of something all of a sudden

03:26:55.620 you read something again and and it hits you different or you have a dream you compare those

03:27:02.320 dreams and other people had something really similar happen and they're really subtle things

03:27:07.160 and but yes of course it evolves over time and of course it's a living religion and when

03:27:14.440 and that's one of the things that's very important to the house true folk assembly

03:27:19.500 um there's a lot of people that would confine our religion to the viking age and

03:27:31.900 that's when it just becomes viking larp um and it's deserves so much more than that

03:27:42.460 um we all need an orientation and a place to start but that's not where it ends that's

03:27:50.380 you know we all enter in from different places but yes it's absolutely a living faith and it's

03:27:56.700 why we develop things and it's why we're building off of the 30-year gift cycle we've been actively

03:28:03.980 engaged in is the austral folk assembly in the 56 year relationship that our founder steve mcdallen

03:28:14.700 has had with with the icr and

03:28:20.940 i think that we've come a long way in you know less than 60 years into you know modern aussitrew

03:28:30.380 so i think a lot's happened within that time but what the lore is that comes to us that we're doing

03:28:39.340 on this show that we're swan and i go over on these episodes is the very last expression we have

03:28:46.540 of a long line of development that goes back into the the dark mists of prehistory

03:28:56.460 um that were orally developed and told to our folk over you know untold generations and years

03:29:05.660 so yes we're a living faith and we need to develop and that's part of the idea that

03:29:10.700 victory never sleeps we never want to stagnate spawn do you have anything you want to add on that

03:29:16.780 yeah i i think one of the perfect examples that proves that we are a living faith

03:29:23.340 is some of the stuff that if you're paying attention on vns might have caught um perfect

03:29:29.660 example of this is that you know based on our observations of the spiritual and the way that

03:29:35.740 we interact with things we know that the gods don't die they don't just cease to exist but

03:29:40.300 that their spiritual potency moves into other parts and then we started to apply this thought

03:29:46.460 pattern in other directions and one of the big things that again are hearkening on the tripartite

03:29:53.340 heights and movements and so on, I had introduced, you know, of my belief that Bor and Bestla

03:30:03.960 and their soul, after transference of lifting up heaven and making heaven, their souls transfer

03:30:10.620 to the eagle and the hawk. Or that Ymir soul descends as Nidogar, and he's changing his place 0.91

03:30:19.820 in the cosmos but continuing his mission um that's not in the lore and a lot of people could say like

03:30:28.180 oh that's not written that's not written but that's absolutely a living and organic observation

03:30:33.260 but it's done not willy-nilly it's not for convenience it's an idea through meditation

03:30:41.940 through prayer and an evolution of an understanding that, oh, what if this is, the fragments that we

03:30:51.200 are piecing together a new line of understanding, you know, the heart of Adunla becoming Ratatosk

03:31:00.960 and Boren Besla's soul ascending and presiding over the heavenly realm and Nidogar, you know,

03:31:07.840 is emir's soul sludging down into the the roots of the tree um another one the uh classification

03:31:15.840 of the rivers i mean we already had the elvigar from lore but grimness small has many other rivers

03:31:23.360 and suddenly you know we know some of them in in the heavenly realm so that was already listed

03:31:29.280 elsewhere so we took it upon ourselves to classify and understand oh okay so these rivers are named

03:31:37.360 this way because they take heavenly precedence there are middle rivers um that take up mundane

03:31:45.280 or modern or physical precedence and then of course we already had the list of the elvigar

03:31:50.480 down below so you know there's other people that have tried to take those translations

03:31:57.440 haven't really gotten anywhere with them or just kind of left them as just their poetic nuances um

03:32:03.840 but one of the things in that i you know try to emphasize to the gothar in the afa is

03:32:10.640 is about numerical balance force balance and movement throughout the upper middle and lower

03:32:16.960 and why it's so important that there is a lower a middle and an upper and why it's so important that

03:32:22.960 igdrasil isn't in heaven and that its roots reach out to the cosmos and if you go and change that

03:32:29.200 you start to disbalance all the other stories that have you know relation or or the idea that like

03:32:36.800 you know there are no rivers in heaven uh when thor leaves ausgard he has to cross these rivers

03:32:43.120 into the lower realms and it's like no there's rivers in heaven and it starts to it's like a

03:32:48.800 slippery slope where these these people are organically changing things but they're doing

03:32:56.240 it out of convenience, not necessarily out of, you know, introspection. It's the same as the

03:33:02.460 question that was asked about like Shaivism and, and, and, uh, Vaishnaism, an idea that you'll see

03:33:08.940 a lot of people in modern Asatru, they're going to make Lord Odin everything. He is Skyfather,

03:33:16.100 he's Heimdall, he's, um, uh, oh, I had one person say he's, you know, one of his Heiti is the

03:33:23.920 thunderer so he was kind of lumping uh lord thor into lord odin and just the mashing of one um

03:33:33.840 kind of monothea or like like odinism in the monotheistical sense um and i don't think that's

03:33:41.980 correct and i don't think that's the kind of organic growth that we should be looking at

03:33:45.820 i think we should be looking at things very carefully and with the first the sense of piety

03:33:51.780 second the sense of faith and third the sense of

03:33:54.960 scholastic or or or archaeological um those are very very important but

03:34:06.020 you know some people are again yeah oh no austra exists in the norse pantheon as not because

03:34:14.260 i need her to that's where the difference between so we have to be very very careful and that's why

03:34:22.540 a lot of the the expansions that we talk about is via it's internalized within the gothar kind of

03:34:28.300 are arguing placing or it's not even arguing it's debating uh it's um concessing and figuring

03:34:37.420 things out and trying to go forward with the best steps and then if someone in in the faith has these

03:34:46.860 movements you know um whether it's application religiously people in their own areas locally

03:34:53.340 can have things too um that they they drive in on um perfect example is our folk builder um

03:35:01.020 ron boardman has a lot of very personal things that he does in his area that that that connect

03:35:07.900 him to the gods that i don't in that same sense that's okay um but that and it's not stifling of

03:35:18.780 that but the idea is that when we start say like trying to change lore shift lore too greatly

03:35:26.460 without any consideration i think that's when the organicness needs to be kind of brought into check

03:35:31.820 when you start um you know blatantly shifting cosmological powers um especially in because the

03:35:40.700 austral folk assembly the the formation of theological ideas um get kind of twisted on

03:35:49.580 their head when you know people start moving things around in in a lot of ways and um i think

03:35:58.380 you lose a lot of its intended and already their power um it's just about kind of translating it

03:36:06.220 to folks to see it so through observation this is how the story tells it and instead of thinking oh

03:36:14.060 the roots of a tree can't be in three levels so snorty was talking about the tree being on its

03:36:19.980 side because he's a christian and christians didn't want the tree to be up so the three 0.94

03:36:24.940 levels are all on the same level but they're laying that kind of garbage to me is just so

03:36:31.660 aggravating and it's like they're they're working their way or a tea it isn't really a god it's

03:36:37.980 loki or it's you know it's this oh it's like no the observable points are there it's just about

03:36:47.740 kind of finding and understanding the connections there um instead of jamming creating these kind

03:36:54.780 of hypotheses um no it's not heimdall it's oven because olden is the rune god and heimdall could

03:37:02.220 never give out the runes it just can't be that that kind of stuff is just that's not organic

03:37:09.540 and i really don't think that that furthers the faith um us being hard polytheists you know and

03:37:15.660 why can't the gods know the sacrifice of their their lord and chief lord odin who synthesizes

03:37:22.860 himself to the circulatory system of the entire universe brings back this knowledge and gives it

03:37:27.340 to his people. And then one of them gives it to the other, the, the people of, of the middle, 0.76

03:37:35.040 the blood carriers, the breath carriers, he comes down and gives that gift. You know, it's just,

03:37:41.580 that's a, that's a long and kind of aggravating subject, but I did want to kind of interject on

03:37:48.240 that one. All right. So, last question of the night. Dr. Doodles, are Jews a threat?

03:38:08.940 so i i we belabor this over much 0.97

03:38:18.360 anybody that is looking out for their own interests is potentially a threat to us

03:38:29.560 or not anyone that has conflicting interests with ours can be a threat

03:38:37.140 there is a tendency within some of the circles that we find ourselves in

03:38:43.100 to equate all threats and all the things that ever go wrong with anything that we don't like

03:38:51.060 in some other place than with us i get it i'm on the team like i understand we all we all get it 0.99

03:39:02.260 But what I have seen over and over and over and over again, a sickening quantity of over again, the people that mess things up for us are selfish white people. 0.97

03:39:23.380 i've that is the that is the truth 0.97

03:39:32.700 the reasons everything bad that's ever happened in the history of modern ausitru 0.99

03:39:42.860 has been selfish short-sighted white people sometimes they're just terrible people 0.98

03:39:53.380 Sometimes they're woefully ill with soul sickness, and it has caused them to make really bad choices. 0.99

03:40:04.500 But our own people are the ones so often holding us back.

03:40:10.780 What that means, though, is that it's within us and our people to fix that.

03:40:18.380 If we are the ones holding us back, then let's stop, and we can be the ones moving us forward.

03:40:28.080 I think that's a little bit of a theme tonight, is that by us working together to build this in a unified way, great things happen and we move forward.

03:40:42.720 when we when we have chaos and disunity amongst ourselves stagnation happens

03:40:54.460 at best we don't move forward or I guess at best we we try to struggle forward at a slower pace

03:41:06.060 maybe we don't move forward at all or at worse we lose all the ground we tried to cover

03:41:12.020 and we continue to always start at year one.

03:41:18.140 Realizing that truth, and truth is one of our virtues,

03:41:21.980 is not something that's as fun or makes cool memes,

03:41:27.700 but it's true.

03:41:32.880 That's the biggest threat that we face

03:41:35.320 is our own people's selfish, short-sighted malignancies.

03:41:43.960 But luckily, Astro Folk Assembly is fully devoted to trying to heal the soul sickness of our folk.

03:41:51.840 And we're trying to do that for as many as we can, as fast as we can.

03:41:56.020 But one by one, slowly but surely, it's happening, it will continue to happen, and we will reach our goals.

03:42:05.320 we will be victorious we'll be victorious faster if everybody who hears this gets on

03:42:12.420 the team but we will be victorious nonetheless spawn thank you so much for being on tonight

03:42:19.920 as always um we appreciate you as you see in the chat everybody appreciates you you bring

03:42:27.100 so much to the program um nick thank you for all that you do you were awesome you facilitated

03:42:34.320 every single one of these shows but one when you were out at Odin's Hoff you were fantastic uh

03:42:39.840 couldn't do it without you certainly couldn't do it the way we're doing it or at this level without

03:42:44.320 you we appreciate you and our amazing people in our chat room our audience that listens that's

03:42:50.400 not in the chat room we appreciate you the ones that are always here the ones that donate the

03:42:55.440 ones that have questions the ones that spur on conversation you guys are awesome you guys add

03:43:03.280 so much to the program if you guys weren't doing that this program would have ended

03:43:08.320 two hours and 40 something minutes ago so you guys are awesome thank you so much and i'm looking

03:43:14.240 forward to talking to you again a week from now until then hail the icer hell the folk

03:43:21.520 Hail the ASA, and remember, victory never sleeps.

03:43:28.460 Bye, guys.

03:43:29.620 Bye, guys.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - November 14, 2024

11⧸13⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 123 - Völuspá hin skamma

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