00:03:00.000hello everybody and welcome once again to another exciting episode of victory never sleeps
00:03:19.360we're going to continue our series on the nine no nine noble virtues um with our 10th noble
00:03:28.080virtue victory following it up at the end this week we are on the virtue of honor and uh
00:03:36.640obviously a very good choice but a choice chosen by his peers we have folk builder adam hudak
00:03:43.840with us this evening i believe it's adam's first time on victory never sleeps well adam welcome
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00:06:10.120well just so you guys know in case there's any uh any confusion um to start off tonight
00:06:19.720adam could you tell folks who you are and a little bit about yourself
00:06:24.600and your uh journey to alsatru into the afa sure so uh i live in uh pennsylvania i've uh
00:06:33.640I've grew up there all my life. I have five children. I've been with my wife for almost 18 years now. I joined the AFA in 2018. I was searching for something more, and I certainly found it.
00:06:54.140So it's, as always, very good to be here.
00:06:58.720And I've been full building since 2020, I believe.
00:07:07.300To start off tonight, the virtue we want to discuss this evening is honor.
00:07:14.460Could you tell us a little bit about what honor means to you and how you would define honor?
00:07:22.120For me, I mean, the simple definition is to be held in high esteem, to fulfill obligations.
00:07:31.300But for me, it's a lot like a code of conduct. It's a way of living.
00:07:36.820It can't be bought. It's something that's earned through action.
00:07:41.920And it kind of encompasses many different virtues, if you will, and the top pyramid, in a way, being bestowed with honor or having honor or being an honorable person.
00:07:59.220So, yeah, I would say a code of conduct or a way of living is what defines it for me mostly.
00:08:07.000uh sarah asked a question and donated ten or five dollars to us thank you very much sarah we
00:08:16.880appreciate it she said adam tell us a bit about your journey that brought you to the afa and i
00:08:21.660know i kind of just asked that but is there any thing you could add that maybe you know of the
00:08:26.740other things you could have done why the afa specifically or how did you find the afa well
00:08:33.460Well, most of my, I guess, teenage years and into young adulthood, I certainly chased a lot
00:08:45.160of things that never made me happy. I always felt a hole inside. And by the time I was about 30 years
00:08:54.900old, I was like, man, there's got to be something more to life, right? So then I started searching,
00:08:59.680I started looking and I found the AFA when I'll never forget when I first read it.
00:09:09.040I said, wow, that sounds exactly like what I'm looking for.
00:09:12.720And I filled out that application on the old website.
00:10:04.040different uses of honor and i i think that both of them are valid and good but i know that one
00:10:11.060we're very familiar with and that's the idea of your personal code your personal
00:10:17.460you know dignity of how you how you handle things yourself and your personal um
00:10:26.020your personal pursuit of of right and wrong on your own code but the the original meaning of
00:10:33.700honor and the meaning that was was most relevant to our ancestors and these two do go together
00:10:39.780certainly was the idea of fame or renown and again because of that personal code because of
00:10:47.620the dignity and the nobleness of your actions and your behavior but the concept of honor was
00:10:53.300had much bigger social ramifications because it was the reputation earned through you know through
00:11:01.300good deeds or through uh prowess in in battle or prowess in legal matters or prowess in whatever
00:11:08.740you do but the the esteem and the fame that honor did gave you it gave you a certain amount of
00:11:17.060currency socially when you traveled when you went from place to place when you uh interacted with
00:11:22.260people your uh your reputation preceded you and people would have something to gauge by and and
00:11:30.420know you and on top of that it was something that uh others associated with you could use
00:11:35.300you know hey i i know adam adam can vouch for me oh adam okay in that case in that case you
00:11:42.640must be all right um it was something you could use as a uh as a signpost to know how to treat
00:11:50.140certain people so it was it was a very much about dignity and reputation now those things
00:11:56.220certainly come from all of the things that we in a modern sense think of as honor but its social
00:12:02.340currency was huge to our ancestors and i first really that solidified in my head when i read
00:12:08.820uh wilhelm grombeck's culture of the tutons but i think it's something that is really important
00:12:14.500for us to consider um nowadays i've got a couple of questions over here on the side um king of
00:12:23.940cheese appreciate you being here asks first question how are you both doing tonight how
00:12:29.540are you doing adam very well very well and the day off i always have wednesdays off
00:12:37.700and uh obviously we have off tomorrow as well so it's uh two days off in a row it's rare for me
00:12:45.460so doing well good deal and uh my answer is always boring because i'm always doing good
00:12:53.060when i'm on here i look forward to it all week i'm getting to talk to one of my friends getting
00:12:58.260to talk to you know over the over live stream here several of my friends and I I just love
00:13:04.260doing it also I'm pretty excited uh with Thanksgiving coming up tomorrow um got plans
00:13:11.020with the family so you know everything everything is good in mat land Tim asks an interesting
00:13:18.040question Adam as someone in leadership that exemplifies honor we all know you uh your
00:13:25.760many strengths what would you say is your greatest weakness well number one would be my wife and uh
00:13:36.640also poppy seed bread believe it or not i love poppy seed bread um and i don't think i'm going
00:13:44.080to give it up this lifetime so if you if you see a guy struggling with eating too much poppy seed
00:13:50.880that'll be me the next time as well so yeah poppy poppy is probably up there all right um
00:14:04.320so this isn't specified who it's for so i think we'll both take a swing at it this is from cody
00:14:09.840uh i'll let you go first adam how do you think the folk could live more honorably
00:14:15.440Well, I think what it's, I mean, obviously, we turn to the past with what we're doing in Asitru.
00:14:26.860We pull from the past and are trying to, obviously, we can't make the past
00:14:32.980today because it belongs to the past, but we draw from it and bring that wisdom forward.
00:14:40.660So we can always pull from myth, from the gods, from the heroes and and use that today to the best of our ability.
00:14:53.740You know, it's kind of a complex answer, but it's one of the it's it's the reason that we are doing these this series on the noble virtues.
00:15:10.660We, as a folk, have relegated a lot of these important values to, that's something other people do, or that's something our ancestors did, or that's something we would do if only.
00:15:30.500And I think it's extremely important for our folk to conceptualize these virtues as real things for them to enact in their life in the context that they live in, not in some superficial view of the past, not in a woulda, coulda, shoulda way, but in a real way.
00:15:53.420how you deal with your family how you deal with yourself in your as an employer or as an employee
00:15:59.660how you deal with yourself with your friends in your community
00:16:06.300in utilizing our virtues and living those virtues in a real way is extremely important and so many
00:16:14.540of us have a disconnect between what we think those are and they aren't honor for example
00:16:20.940it's very easy to conceive of it in a in a battlefield sense or in an you know ancient
00:16:27.500warrior sense or as a knight and you know winning honor at tournaments and things that way it's
00:16:36.540more seldom that we consider honor in the integrity of how we are as an employee how
00:16:42.540how we are when no one's looking, how we deal with our families, how we deal with people we
00:16:51.060run into in society, the fame that we build for ourselves to where people know our name because
00:16:57.400of our good deeds. That's a big one, especially this has gotten much, much worse since the
00:17:04.720reactions to COVID-19. But we were already on a path to where people having real life
00:17:11.600reputation and real life social interaction was getting less and less we run into folks that are
00:17:18.960very comfortable being anonymous and no one wants fame or attention and building a name quite
00:17:27.040literally building a name for yourself was one of the biggest deals for our ancestors
00:17:33.760one of the biggest deals for all of our ancestors up until very very recently but we live in a place
00:17:40.000now where everyone wants to keep their head down and and be as secretive as as possible
00:17:45.280and that said that's part of the abuse that's been heaped upon our folk and the uh battered
00:17:51.520people's mindset that we have now and i think by people taking courage putting their name
00:17:57.680behind things and building strong reputation for themselves that would be a huge huge advantage in
00:18:04.160building honor amongst our folk um that was a good question cody thank you
00:18:12.880so king of cheese asks i've heard honor being a kind of currency akin to favors how accurate
00:18:20.240do you two think this is well i mentioned just a few minutes ago about how honor absolutely
00:18:26.560is a currency in the sense that it's reputation but i don't think it's something that um
00:18:32.240um you necessarily have to spend as long as it maintains its value it's a certain amount of
00:18:42.740surety that people are willing to risk on you judging by past performance and if you justify
00:18:49.400that by performing well in the present I don't think it's diminished or spent but in the turn
00:18:56.060the sense of favors um very much so and i and i've used this a lot i've used this in my career as a
00:19:03.660bouncer but i also have used it quite a bit in in the afa in settling disputes with people if the
00:19:11.100people that i deal with uh for example when i was when i was bouncing i had a team of guys and
00:19:16.460there's a lot of younger guys or newer guys or whatever i had earned a reputation amongst the
00:19:21.740customers are treating people fairly of standing up and being counted in any kind of a physical
00:19:27.980altercation that happened of dealing honorable with people so over the time if there was a
00:19:35.740conflict and my guys were about to get in a in a spot that was over their head i could go to you
00:19:41.900know one of the hostile customers and say hey i need you to do me a favor just go home have a good
00:19:47.500night please favor to me please do that and some very irate samoan guys that were looking to to
00:19:54.780really beat on some of our bouncers that had uh irritated them in some way would would calm down
00:20:02.940would shake my hand give me a hug and just leave out of respect and i appreciate that you know in
00:20:08.300the afa and as a gothi i've had to do a lot of counseling and we've got a lot of very passionate
00:20:15.580people and a lot of folks that get into a lot of interpersonal conflict from time to time.
00:20:21.840That's going to happen when you have people that are emotionally invested in what we're doing.
00:20:27.160But I've also used, you know, taking them aside and saying, hey, as a favor to me,
00:20:32.200could you just trust me on this and let this slide? And people are willing to do that because of
00:20:39.360reputation or the honor that that they have assigned to me, the honor that they feel that I
00:20:45.400have. And I found that to be really useful. Adam, do you have any similar situations or what are
00:20:51.500your thoughts on on honor as a currency? I think you kind of covered it. I think when when people
00:20:58.020respect you based off what they see in you, how you live your daily life, the things you do and
00:21:06.360whatnot, they obviously listen. It's not something that can always be talked about. It's what people
00:21:12.360see in you. So obviously that can be used in that type of situation. Yeah, I can see that.
00:21:36.360I suppose it can be manipulated, but in the long run, honor is something that is proven out over
00:21:44.680time. And there's a, I'm trying to think of the best way to put this, and I'm not on my game with
00:21:50.660some of my wording tonight. I'm trying to think of the best way of this.
00:21:56.400When someone has, you can have assigned authority because you have a certain position
00:22:01.560or you're in a certain position, and that's good and that counts, but there's a difference between
00:22:10.860that and somebody who's got the same or even less of an official rank in something, but has a
00:22:17.860tremendous amount of honor and respect of the people that they work with, the value of what
00:22:24.160they say. Now, if you get both of these in the same spot, that's how it should work,
00:22:29.080But you notice the one is much more powerful than the other.
00:22:35.400So much can be gained regardless of rank or position.
00:22:39.500If you are a person who your your fellows put a lot of trust in that trust is part of honor.
00:22:48.520But if they more than trust you, but they respect you and they think that you have a certain expertise, you have a value that they just want to do right.
00:22:57.780by you it helps so much in any position of leadership um be it official or unofficial
00:23:05.780to have that amount of respect and people being willing to to trust to trust you enough to follow
00:23:12.500you um and i think that that's an essential quality for people in in any sort of a leadership
00:23:19.780position. Sean has a question. I support the AFA, and I'd like to come home, but I fear what may
00:23:28.700happen in my career. The ADL has the AFA listed as a hate group. How do I avoid losing my job?
00:23:36.940I've got a lot of thoughts on this, but go ahead and take this one first, Adam.
00:23:41.380Sure. Well, I mean, obviously, I understand that there's certain jobs, especially in today,
00:23:47.200that, you know, probably would not like hearing that someone was in the AFA, right?
00:23:55.360But I can only speak from my own experience.
00:23:58.780I've been at the same job for a long time, and they all know,
00:24:03.980they eventually found out what I do, right?
00:24:06.660And what the management all, from what I understand, decided was,
00:24:16.460He does the right thing. He works hard. He's never given us any problems. So why would we even pursue this? And that's my experience. And I think also it's been many other people's experience within the AFA. So, yeah, that's the best advice I can give on that.
00:24:38.920So it's it's interesting that you asked this question, and I think it's very relevant to what we're discussing, especially when we're talking about honor in terms of reputation.
00:24:51.040um and no one can make you any promises on this i wish that i could tell you i wish i could tell
00:25:01.120every afa member that there was some you know some magical something you would do that would
00:25:06.560remove you from any sort of consequence and and i can't um you may very well have a job to where
00:25:13.360or the people there want to persecute you for your faith.
00:35:52.920this is another thing that in today's society we're often very uncomfortable with
00:36:00.960it's not comfortable to call out or to recognize
00:36:06.760negative things but in order for honor to have meaning and be worth something
00:36:15.940there needs to dishonor exists that word has to have a meaning also
00:36:21.740If not, then you can't compare the two. Same thing with our previous virtues. Truth that we spoke about last time. If there's truth, then we also need to consider that there's untruth or there's lies, there's dishonesty.
00:36:41.060and on our first one uh courage if courage exists so does cowardice and it's very easy to point to
00:36:53.960people and say that guy's courageous or to point to ourselves and say man we did something courageous
00:37:00.800but man it's hard to point yourself and said wow you did something cowardly or to someone who
00:37:07.940is a friend of ours and honestly give them the feedback that they're behaving in a cowardly way
00:37:13.780or what's worse if they do that so often that they're defined by cowardice that they are a
00:37:19.520coward and the same thing is here with uh with honor and dishonor everybody is going to do
00:37:25.340dishonorable things from time to time and fall short of the reputation they ought to do and and
00:37:32.020all do that so there's there's little violations but when your habitual dishonorable behavior
00:37:41.700makes you dishonorable that's a that's a bigger thing and as adam said context is everything and
00:37:47.860there's certain dishonorable behavior that we can we can fix and correct and uh you know make right
00:37:55.060what we've damaged and overcome and then there's some uh sometimes you burn the bridge and there's
00:38:00.900no way back depending on um as far as dishonor amongst the world at large that we don't have
00:38:15.140social control over we should disapprove of it we should not uh not celebrate it when we have
00:38:24.820opportunities to, I guess, show any support, we should deny support to things in out there in
00:38:34.840the world that are dishonorable to us. And the best we can do is show that in external ways in
00:38:41.860how we speak in things that we consume. Again, it all depends on the situation so much,
00:38:55.160but there's less that we can do when the dishonor is in the world at large. The closer it is to home,
00:39:00.320the more we actually have a say in it. Dishonor amongst our folk, again, we should give it the
00:39:06.760cold shoulder and not celebrate it. And this, this may not make sense. But we all and women
00:39:15.820have a bigger role in this, I'd say than men do. But we all have a very important role in
00:39:21.560reward, rewarding or not rewarding behavior. As a group, as a community, as an AFA family,
00:39:33.420we celebrate people who do great things we all pick people that we extend uh warmth and
00:39:43.800celebration to but we also pick people that we withhold those things from if somebody makes a
00:39:50.560comment over in the side chat that's a good comment four or five people jump on and say
00:39:55.920hey right on absolutely i agree 100 if somebody says something that's you know bad
00:40:03.200then at best they should get no comment at worst they should get people telling them
00:40:09.240that they took offense to it or it was inappropriate um so we it may seem subtle
00:40:16.840but depending on the level of dishonorable behavior we choose how much of a light to
00:40:23.120shine on those people or how much of those people to keep hidden that was one of the
00:40:28.720interesting things to our ancestors when we read Tacitus is cowards and homosexuals were
00:40:38.080were stomped into the bog and that wasn't out of particular hatred what it it was out of
00:40:47.440embarrassment those things they wanted to be out of sight to where they literally disappeared from
00:40:54.100view because they found the behavior so abhorrent to their sense of honor um
00:41:02.260so likewise we can choose things to not shine any light on because we don't want people to see
00:41:08.900that level of dishonor because it's offensive and then we can shine a bright light on honor
00:41:14.500and great behavior if people are violate certain lines then absolutely we can um expel them from
00:41:21.780our community and we do um and we can try to keep those people away from our folk and our family
00:41:28.820but you also mentioned your personal family so that's much harder when you have relatives
00:41:36.260that are dishonorable because strife amongst kin was always the greatest um curse amongst our
00:41:45.540ancestors because there's no way to fix it. You're sharing a group Hemenya as a family
00:41:51.220and any way that you would act against a member of your family who deserves acting against
00:41:56.880only takes away from your collected Hemenya. There's no fixing it. When your family steals
00:42:04.080from you, there's nothing you can do to make it right. It just hurts. When your family dishonors
00:42:10.720you. There's nothing you can do to avenge it. Your family is damaged and there's nothing you
00:42:17.780can do but suffer the damage. So one thing I would say within family, if these are adult
00:42:25.820persons, you can certainly separate from them or increase distance. You can increase distance from
00:42:31.700members of your family that consistently behave dishonorably. And I think that the duration and
00:42:37.740the increase of that distance is proportional to what dishonorable behavior and how often they
00:42:44.880continue to live dishonor. But it's a very complex thing. And I think we'll all have different
00:42:49.600answers to it. The most I could say is we choose what to shine a light on and to celebrate and
00:42:56.060what to ignore or what to shun and be disgusted by. Be disgusted by dishonor and celebrate and
00:43:07.620champion those who are honorable. I think I kind of beat that one into the ground.
00:43:15.020Adam, what are you reading lately, asked Daniel.
00:43:19.320I've been reviewing Meister von List's book, again, Area Religion of the Germanic Folk. I've
00:43:27.480probably read it 10 times now, if not more. And I always learn something every time I pick through
00:43:35.160it so that's that's kind of what i've been picking through i don't i don't particularly read as much
00:43:40.360as i used to um but uh yeah i have plenty of books that i've not picked through yet so
00:43:50.040hard it's hard to find the time but uh von list works are definitely you know it's not like a
00:43:56.520casual read it's something you've gotta gotta spend a lot of time thinking on um nick asks
00:44:03.640how do you stay honorable in the world outside of the afa community especially with people who
00:44:10.280do not show you respect adam what are your thoughts on that well we obviously
00:44:24.120it's it's a it's kind of a tough one um
00:44:26.440do we really care for this is how i view it do i care about what most people in in today's world
00:44:36.740are doing or what they think or what they say to me when i don't hold them in a higher state
00:44:45.120anyways you know what i mean so for me if if someone says something to me stupid i i kind of
00:44:52.840let it go because I don't respect them. I don't, you know, agree with the way they live or
00:45:01.440whatever they do. So that's one way to deal with it. Who cares, right? And keep moving,
00:45:09.260build your own thing within the AFA and whatnot. That's all.
00:45:16.140You know, there's kind of two parts to that question. You know, how do you stay honorable
00:45:22.260in the world outside the AFA community, but that's one question. But how do you do it with
00:45:29.420people who don't show you respect? Live your virtues, live your values, live your faith,
00:45:37.500no matter what you do, first and foremost. People will see that. So often in the world around us,
00:45:44.320conflict that we have interpersonally how you deal with it isn't so much a matter of your opponent
00:45:53.440but it's a matter of all of the all of the eyes that are on you because they will see
00:45:59.680your behavior and they can see your character or not you if someone is going to mistreat you and
00:46:08.880and not show you respect, that person doesn't deserve anything from you. Do the best that you
00:46:19.220can to accomplish your goals regardless of that person. And you're right, it doesn't matter what
00:46:24.560that person thinks. But it does matter what all the people watching think. And so that's important.
00:46:30.380One of the biggest things that dishonorable people or negative toxic people in general like to do
00:46:36.580is they like to bring you down as well they like to set traps for you intentionally or unintentionally
00:46:44.000to get you to act out and to get you to act poorly avoid those traps stay above it and
00:46:51.960stay focused on your goals we have a and this goes directly hand in hand with honor
00:46:59.700In a society that shared common belief, common values, we would often get in duels over honor, or we would get in our ancestors who practiced Holmgang to redress grievances over honor.
00:47:17.180And in a society that was built around the warrior and martial prowess, in that context, that had tremendous value.
00:47:26.400Honor in your social currency in today's day and age is very different. There's not the social
00:47:34.920value on violence that there once was. You don't regain honor by acting out violently in the
00:47:44.260workplace. If somebody offends you, it just doesn't work that way. You lose honor. You
00:47:50.040literally lose reputation so don't act out of emotion act towards winning what is going to
00:47:59.400help you win your situation if you can't get this person to treat you with respect
00:48:06.600what other benefits can you gain from how you deal with the situation or how can you lose the least
00:48:14.120And like I said, all of that has to do with the people around you. If this is in the workplace
00:48:20.480with your employer, with your job, with your future, with what you're trying to do,
00:48:25.000this person wants to derail you. Negative people want to cause you to act up and cause you to lose
00:48:32.740your job or cause you to get written up or cause you not to have the things that you have that
00:48:38.060wish they did avoid those traps but same thing you know at the grocery store or anything else
00:48:44.780people will try to goad you into being dishonorable with them stay above that invisibly
00:48:53.340stay above that to the people who are watching use every interaction even if it's with somebody
00:49:00.460who treats you disrespectfully as an opportunity to showcase your honor to the third parties that
00:49:07.660are watching find ways to build your honor even upon interactions with people who are dishonorable
00:49:15.820that's the key if you can do that um tim says adam you once said we need to keep the
00:49:23.820myth of the afa alive could you talk about that for a minute yeah sure um i
00:49:32.940I, so I'm, I'm, I'm very much into myth. I, I, I think it tells a lot of truth. And when I think
00:49:40.880of, so when, when I began folk building and I started looking at applications, um, the,
00:49:48.820the question reason for joining was always, I want to see a better world. I want to see a better
00:49:55.520world for my children um my my wife my kids whatever my people um and it dawned on me
00:50:03.040what the afa really is it's yes it's a church but it's more than that it's a myth it's it's
00:50:11.580asgard uh hyperborea in a way things like that and the beautiful thing about it is
00:50:45.260So that's what the AFA is to me. It's a myth. It's a legend. It is Asgard right here, right now.
00:50:56.900I think that's a really important and a really special way to look at it.
00:51:02.420Um, and I think that so often, and I've said this before too, I think so often people don't realize that they're living history within their lifetimes.
00:51:16.260It's only, you know, it's only generations later that people look back and, you know, man, those guys back in the good old days, this is what they used to do.
00:51:25.540Or man, back in the golden age of vows to true, this is how we did things.
00:51:29.260um we're living through history we are building something great and beautiful for our gods
00:51:37.760for our folk and for our children and uh it's important to savor that in the moment
00:51:46.040so that we can give it our best so that when it comes out at the other end
00:51:52.200we made it worthwhile. You know, we only have a limited amount of time in Midgard to make these
00:51:59.640things happen. And we are writing history, each of us, every single day. And we're at a time where
00:52:08.180we have such an impact on the future and the legend of the AFA. We can do so many amazing
00:52:14.080things together, maximizing that, building that legend. That's really a beautiful thing,
00:52:22.780and it's a beautiful way to look at it, I think. Brendan asks, how can myself and pagan brothers
00:52:31.400I served with get involved with overseas military contracting work to protect our vulnerable folk
00:52:38.520in Africa and around the world. We would love to help out. I really wish I was the right guy
00:52:47.600for you to ask that question to. Unfortunately, I really don't know. I don't have any contacts
00:52:53.540in that world and I don't have any expertise in that world. So I've got nothing to do to help you
00:53:00.500on that. Although I do think that's noble and a great thing that you want to do. And I'm hoping
00:53:05.320maybe through the chat on the side somebody who does know more about it will have uh have some
00:53:10.600connection for you there adam do you have any any uh connection or advice as far as that goes
00:53:16.520kind of the same as you on that one matt i wish i could help but i i don't have a good answer
00:53:22.680yeah sorry about that i i appreciate your your willingness and your desire to do that i just
00:53:28.440don't have a way to help you right now with uh with anybody i have any contact with um
00:53:35.320King of Cheese asked, where is Sigurheim slated to be found in?
00:53:41.960I forgot which state you said, but I know it's east of me.
00:53:52.520I want to get more specific on that as the situation develops, but hopefully we'll have something fairly soon to tell you about that.
00:54:00.560this brings up something that I wanted to talk about before we
00:54:06.240get in the weeds on some of these questions while it came to mind
00:54:10.640tomorrow is Thanksgiving and tomorrow's Thanksgiving for our American folk I imagine
00:54:20.500some of you are joining us from other places where it's not a national holiday
00:54:24.480And it's been very important to me that as the AFA, we recognize and that we celebrate Thanksgiving.
00:54:33.480And a couple of years ago, I got some pretty significant pushback on it from specifically from some Brazilian members at the time that have since left us.
00:54:45.480us. And they were concerned that the idea of Thanksgiving was was just a Protestant Christian
00:54:53.960one. And they didn't see how it could connect to our gods. And I think that's wrongheaded.
00:55:00.600I what I love about Thanksgiving in the United States
00:55:05.880is that it it really is something that we all can participate in.
00:55:11.480And taking a moment for us to acknowledge all of the things we have in life that we are thankful for and to approach whatever deities we worship in Thanksgiving is something that's really beautiful and something I'm very proud that we do in the United States.
00:55:37.080And it's something I want all of our members globally to do.
00:55:41.480And Thanksgiving, as it is in the U.S., has been practiced by everyone of every different faith in this country.
00:55:56.060And I think it's beautiful to set a specific day aside to give thanks for what we have.
00:56:02.320In Ausatru, we have a long tradition where people, I guess, have been uncomfortable with religiosity or with worship or with prayer even.
00:56:16.960Us being thankful for all of the blessings that our gods have given us is a special thing.
00:56:23.460And in the AFA, perhaps more than anywhere else, we have experienced the blessings of our gods in such a huge way.
00:56:32.900We have gotten so many wonderful gifts from them.
00:56:37.600I encourage all of us to take time tomorrow with our families, with our friends, and to celebrate that and to be thankful and to take stock of the wonderful things that we have.
00:58:10.440Adam, do you have any thoughts about Thanksgiving?
00:58:14.040Yeah, well, I mean, just this week, my, you know, and we can say that it shouldn't be something practiced, blah, blah, blah.
00:58:23.180But my my my middle daughter came home with this piece of paper that she wrote in school of all the things she was thankful for.
00:58:31.620Right. And a couple of things that she said about my wife and myself.
00:58:37.980And that was that was kind of the basis of it.
00:58:40.960You can't buy that. That was very special to me. So I don't really care if Thanksgiving or not. Thanksgiving did that in a way. And then we get to spend time with our family, our folk. What can be more ossitary than that on getting together and eating together and whatnot?
00:59:09.220not. So I don't see a problem with it myself either. All right. So we've got another question
00:59:19.220from Cody. Our virtues have a lot of overlap. What other virtues do you feel feed into honor?
00:59:28.900What are your thoughts, Adam? Well, I kind of mentioned it a little bit in the beginning.
00:59:35.220I think honor is kind of like the pinnacle in a way.
00:59:40.580You have to do many things to get that.
00:59:48.320You have to do right always, right thinking, right action, being good to your wife, your children, whatever the case may be.
01:00:00.640All of that stuff combines and you get honor.
01:00:03.920Can I say that one is more important now, but that's just my take on what honor is.
01:00:11.000It's a culmination of many different things.
01:00:15.360Yeah, it's interesting because any in-depth discussion about any of these virtues necessarily involves many of the others in a virtue matrix
01:00:29.260that ultimately equates to honor and reputation.
01:00:38.700There's a couple of, I mean, all of them.
01:00:41.760That's the answer to any of these questions.
01:00:57.420or the expression of that of the sum of that whole. But something that I want to
01:01:04.220mention that's a different facet of honor that I don't think we take into account.
01:01:11.900There is a practical element to it. So I'm going to say self-reliance
01:01:20.620and industriousness are also factors that that go into honor that are our virtues.
01:01:27.420For you to be honored. So some of the other uses of the word honor. It's also something that can be bestowed upon you by a community. You can receive an honor. You can be honored. Like tonight we honor so and so, or I'm going to bestow the honor of this medal to some matter of fact, Adam got the Folk Builder Excellence Award. And that was an honor that was bestowed on him because of his content and because of his reputation.
01:01:57.420those things are very often merited it's not just that you're a good guy but it's that you're useful
01:02:08.400and that you offer something valuable to the people you surround yourself with to your family
01:02:13.340or to your community that you are capable of doing things to contribute and in whatever way that might
01:02:20.120be but that your industry adds to the group instead of is a is a drain from the group a group is better
01:02:26.740with you in it that was also a really important facet of honor to our ancestors as it is today
01:02:33.460and this came um this is part of a conversation that i was having at feast of the iron here
01:02:39.220yard with some gentlemen and i've had it before but we value people
01:02:48.340in our common speech we often say so and so is a good guy
01:02:53.700guy he's a good guy and we don't really mean that in what way is he good very often we call someone
01:03:01.620a good guy because they're not confrontational they're easy to get along with and they're they're
01:03:08.980not offensive the lack of offending doesn't make someone good um one thing and i forget and it's
01:03:16.660been said many different ways and some more eloquent than this but um unless a man is capable
01:03:24.420of being offensive and being confrontational him choosing not to is a is a safety mechanism for him
01:03:32.500not a not a courtesy to you if there's somebody that is capable of of causing offense and
01:03:39.860destroying his foes and that person chooses to be extra nice to people
01:03:45.540then that's a virtue that's a nice thing if there's somebody who is naturally completely
01:03:51.140beta and a weakling and they don't make a lot of waves that's not a courtesy they're extending to
01:03:57.620you they're they're not capable of acting otherwise that's a that's a self-defense technique um
01:04:06.020being a good guy isn't about just not offending people being a good guy is about adding something
01:04:11.860the world we're all made better for your presence we're made better by knowing you in some way
01:04:17.780and i think that that's a really key component of honor we need to think about
01:04:22.820do you contribute more than you take away when you're in a group
01:04:26.340do you add do people want you because you bring value to the situation
01:04:33.380um so sierra asks uh matt for your monthly dinners you make different ethnic european foods
01:04:41.620what is snert um often i do make different ethnic european foods and uh we're having snert on
01:04:49.060saturday how about a couple things on saturday so uh those of you who are within traveling distance
01:04:56.020of reno nevada that want to come to my uh dinner we are having salted caramel white russians to
01:05:02.260start then we are going to have snert and we're going to finish off with a banana pudding cake
01:05:08.340with nilla wafers pretty excited about all of these things it's going to be a potluck so those
01:05:13.780coming are going to bring other delicious things i specifically told them on the poster to bring
01:05:18.900stuff that was not nasty so let's hope that they heeded that advice snurt is a phrysian or dutch
01:05:28.820dish and it's basically a split pea and uh various kinds of bacon and ham and things uh soup uh
01:05:39.380soups cup probably not the right word for it because the consistency the rule with snert is
01:05:44.180you know that it's ready when you can stick your uh your wooden stirring spoon in it and
01:05:49.060it stands straight up and won't fall over so it's a very thick split pea
01:05:53.380and ham and bacon and pork and carrots and various other things and it's delicious
01:06:02.820it's hearty and it's a really good thing to have during the winter um i found it
01:06:07.860uh so one of the other ethnic european dishes that i like to make is bananas and sauerkraut
01:06:18.740and it sounds odd. I'll give you that, but it is also a Frisian dish, and it's basically a cottage
01:06:27.560pie, but with layers of banana and sauerkraut, and the sweet and the sour go together and make
01:06:33.420this magical goo in there that's wonderful. I know that didn't make it sound much better,
01:06:38.840but i promise you it is but both of these i discovered
01:06:47.240i am i i'm not uh not eloquent this evening and i'm not not sure why maybe need more sleep last
01:06:53.640night but these things came about my first um forays into ausitru i was in alaska and there
01:07:01.080wasn't a lot of other folks there wasn't a lot of afa activity there so it started by me having
01:07:07.160people over to my house and having dinners. The very first one that we celebrated was
01:07:13.000for the Remembrance Day for King Radbod of Frisia. And we thought it would be fun to look up
01:07:21.640different Dutch recipes and make these different things. And there's two really different ones
01:07:30.000that we tried out. Snert was one of them. And the other one was the sauerkraut and the bananas.
01:07:34.320So it comes from that tradition of having people over to my house and trying different things.
01:07:39.540And we kept what worked good, and we decided not to keep the stuff that didn't turn out so well.
01:26:14.860So I chose the name Sigerheim because it means the victory home, the home of victory.
01:26:23.020And because the idea of an intentional Ausitru community in a physical place like that has been a dream of our folks since the rediscovery of Ausitru, I see this as a tremendous fulfillment of that dream and a big victory and a testament to the victories that we've won and the victories that we intend to win.
01:26:49.320um but victory home i want it to be a home for our folk and for the afa i want us to have a spot
01:27:02.500that you know the capital of the afa i want all the things that implies i want it to be
01:27:09.180where the the operation of the afa is run from where i do these videos from where we host
01:27:18.580national gatherings from, where we do all the administration of the AFA from, certainly.
01:27:25.940But I also want it to be a place where people can go and be home. I want people to live
01:27:32.800on site there and to build a vibrant village within Sigurheim. It is important to me that we,
01:27:43.040you know that we have homes but that we also have guest facilities and bunkhouse facilities for
01:27:48.320national events but also for folks that need a place to stay or if they come to an event and
01:27:53.520want to spend the night have them have a spot if something goes wrong in their life as an extension
01:27:58.880of folk services have them have a place that them and their family can go and can get fed
01:28:04.720and have a roof over their head if they need that i also want a spot where
01:28:09.680our elders. And one thing that has been a common occurrence, at least in the first
01:28:18.080generation of Ausatru, is we have elders that didn't lead, you know, their life was often
01:28:26.960focused on a lot of other things besides securing a favorable retirement situation.
01:28:32.120So they find themselves old, sometimes estranged from their family or without family,
01:28:37.060and without the resources to live in the way that we'd like to see them live.
01:28:42.940So for our elderly folks to have a place they can come and live that we can take care of them,
01:28:49.680again, we can't promise everybody luxury, but we can give them a place, a roof over their head,
01:28:55.180we can make sure they've got access to meals, and we can make sure that they've got access to our
01:29:00.040faith and their faith community, to our Hoff that we're going to have there, to our hall,
01:29:04.480to participate in also true every day of their life and i think that's the best thing that we
01:29:10.160can do for for our elders also for people who have various disabilities and can't necessarily
01:29:18.080live on their own but don't need a full-time medical care because we can't provide full-time
01:29:22.880medical care but if we have people that can't live independently instead of them having to be
01:29:28.480someplace where their faith isn't celebrated and they don't have access to hoffs and to our afa
01:29:34.400family we would like to wrap them in the love of our afa family and have them there with a place
01:29:40.480to stay and stuff to eat and a way to participate now it's true every day of their life um as i
01:29:47.520mentioned already we're gonna have a great hall there that we're gonna feast in and celebrate in
01:29:53.520and uh get together in and enjoy each other's company and enjoy our community in we're also
01:29:59.680going to and in that's going to be a um commercial quality like really nice kitchen to where we can
01:30:06.320prepare meals for large groups of people um in a pantry to where we have you know the supplies
01:30:12.400for those things to extend hospitality to folks we're also going to have a uh a hof there it's
01:30:20.320going to be tiershoff and that will be you know at that point that will be the center of its own
01:30:27.280hoff district that'll happen at the time but yeah that's my vision for it and how fast is it going
01:30:32.560to happen i don't know we'll see um we'll see who actually wants to invest and build homes there
01:30:40.400so i guess another question comes in what kind of housing it's very important to me that it looks
01:30:46.240nice and that it's well taken care of. But I want people to have their dreams, too. We're not going
01:30:51.740to have enough land to where people have massive acreage and massive yards. But whatever home they0.52
01:30:57.140would like to build, if they want to build a mansion and invest that in there, great, we'd love
01:31:01.000that. If they want to build a tiny home, great, we'd love that. If they want to build a log home,
01:31:08.820great. But we want real homes there and not some kind of hippie commune shanty town. That's not
01:31:15.360what we're building. We're building a village of noble AFA members that want to exist as a
01:31:22.600community, as a family, and build that for us, for our children, a place to raise our children in.
01:31:29.380I envision it being a spot that we can help other people with, through the Astro Academy,
01:31:35.760to raise our children, to educate our children as a group, as a family there.
01:31:41.760um the the sky is the limit the possibilities are truly truly endless but
01:31:48.740reforming that sense of an organic real physical community is what I want to see develop and what
01:31:58.180I want so badly for myself and my family to be a part of and so that's that's kind of the first
01:32:04.420the first phase of visions that I have for Sigerheim.
01:32:09.880And I think we've got a lot of great people
01:34:56.660Adam is on our internal security team that helps vet applications that come through and look at things on the back end.
01:35:05.620And one of the reasons for that is that we trust that he's on an even keel and he's got a got a good, reasonable realness about him and how he can evaluate some of these people.
01:35:20.280And he takes a little bit deeper dive if anything looks strange on an application.
01:35:24.340So Adam's very involved in the application process in that way as well.
01:35:29.340And we certainly appreciate him for that.
01:35:31.560ah so christian pinner asks from me we i was harry goethe's favorite beer
01:35:40.320so a couple things here you asked a specific question and i will give you a specific answer
01:35:47.460i wanted to look it up because i think it was a limited edition that i haven't had in a long time
01:35:50.780but i wish i could have again uh rogue voodoo's donut bacon maple ale that was my favorite beer
01:35:59.700that I've ever had, and it's amazing. It's lighter than what I usually like in beers, though. I like
01:36:05.240dark beers. I like any of the beers that are on nitro with the smooth creaminess. I love that.
01:36:13.820I really like Doppelbox, but yeah, that's my beer choice. But you know what? I like the flavored
01:36:22.620beers a lot. I'm that guy. I like me a fruity beer. I'm not going to lie. I enjoy all the
01:36:27.840different pumpkin spice beers that, you know, were around last month. With beer or wine or cigars,
01:36:38.100I don't taste the subtle things that people, you know, like to,
01:36:43.840notes of hickory and hibiscus. I don't pick those things up. So it's got to be pretty flavor forward,
01:36:52.420either on the front end or on the back end for me to taste it also uh russian river has this thing
01:36:58.100ron mexico that describes it as having a coconutty finish it's also a light colored beer i don't know
01:37:06.020whether you know it's an ipa or just what they usually do a lot of ipas that's really really
01:37:11.620good and the coconut finish really comes through and that's all done just with the
01:37:15.780breed of hops so that's really cool as well um bob guy asks one goes to an afa uh event
01:37:28.260that is hours away from where they live can the afa have a place to stay for people like that
01:37:35.860it all depends that's one of the interesting things yes we would love to have those kind
01:37:40.500of accommodations um that's one of the things that are that's essential for us to have at sigerheim
01:37:47.380people travel to sigerheim i want them to have a place to crash and spend the night so they don't
01:37:51.620have to be in a rush so they can enjoy themselves and again we really appreciate people being
01:37:57.380willing to travel all that way and it's great to have some place to stay often members will that
01:38:04.180live closer to an event will offer space in their homes for people to stay but you can't count on
01:38:09.220that uh anybody who's traveling to my house for the the snert dinner this weekend um they're
01:38:15.700welcome to stay here we've got a really nice guest set up and uh beyond that we got couches
01:38:21.780and floor space and we'll figure it out um odenshoff is in a spot where camping is is a
01:38:31.380reasonable thing to do and where there is an option for people to camp or even we have people
01:38:35.940that will roll out a sleeping bag in the hall. And that's a thing. That's not an option at
01:38:41.780Baldershof or Thorshof at present or at Njortzhof. So we would love to have those accommodations,
01:38:48.720but we don't have that regularly set up at a lot of our venues. So it really depends on where you
01:38:53.720go. But we would love to see more of that. And there's been talk about, you know, buying other
01:38:58.360properties in the towns to where we could have guest facilities for things like that. But we're
01:39:03.560not there yet. Again, if you guys have more questions, throw them out. If not, there's
01:39:11.260nothing wrong with an hour and a half program. Looks like we got one more question on here
01:39:15.780lined up so far, though. And I think this is a very good question from Corey. How does
01:39:23.740honor look different in men and women? Adam, what's your take on that?
01:39:29.700Well, obviously, we are different, but when we think of a woman, obviously, what we think
01:39:47.060of a traditional woman that does what she needs to for her family and whatnot, and then
01:39:56.420there's the man that does the same thing on the other side. Honestly, as I'm saying, I don't
01:40:03.680really think there's that much of a difference in many ways. The virtues probably go together
01:40:10.240in the same way. Telling the truth, once again, doing the right thing and whatnot. So
01:40:21.080i don't really see a difference now it could be wrong
01:47:08.760I think mythology, when done right, teaches truth.
01:47:19.160I think truth is really important. I think there are circumstances where you want to put your best foot forward.
01:47:26.820And so you want to, like we talked about earlier in the program with honor and dishonor,
01:47:31.660you want to shine a light on the things that are important that you want to highlight and that you want to celebrate and make sure people remember.
01:47:38.760And it's not lying or wrong to not point out things that do the opposite.
01:47:48.760So I think that when you talk about mythologizing certain situations, I think you put a disproportionate emphasis on the good things that you want to show by the example of the story you tell.
01:48:01.760And you don't show all the flaws, all the weakness, all the bad parts. And I don't think that's dishonest. I think if you can be dishonest in the way you do that, or you can be honest about it.
01:48:15.120I think accurately recording history is extremely important. But when we have like in schools of journalism today, and we see this come through all too often in literature as well, in books, in nonfiction books, is a need to tell both sides or a need to get a counterpoint or a need to get another side of the story.
01:48:39.000I don't think you need that at all. I think if you're the author of something, you're telling the story. As long as you're being honest, you can tell it as subjectively as you want. You can tell it from your perspective and celebrate the things that you want to celebrate in your telling of the story.
01:48:57.500Um, but I do think that what we should never do is lie about history or lie about a person from history. We owe people better than that. When we portray a historical event.
01:49:13.360we have an obligation to give those people their due and when we choose to fundamentally
01:49:23.180be dishonest or recreate their character to fit a narrative of the story we want to tell
01:49:29.080we do an extreme dishonor to a real person who existed and did things and i think that's a
01:49:35.260that's a terrible crime that people do uh what are your thoughts adam yeah i i i think there's
01:49:43.300lesson in what happened before so changing it obviously you know myth like you said is truth
01:49:53.140um it's eternal and it can be used again and again and again and uh we absolutely should
01:49:59.780should not change it in any way and it should be truthful all right um
01:50:07.380Shlomo Shekelstein asks, gentlemen, are you participating in a Frayers Feast this weekend?