Asatru Folk Assembly - 11⧸27⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 125 - Svipdagsmál： Grógaldr & Fjölsvinnsmál

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00:03:00.000 I don't know we're all okay all right guys sorry for the rough intro tonight

00:03:18.480 I imagine we are working on the technical difficulties on that but welcome again to

00:03:25.500 another exciting episode of Victory Never Sleeps. Always good to have you guys here.

00:03:37.480 Tonight, some of you who may have been looking at the advertisement for tonight or seen it today,

00:03:46.160 gone through a little bit of change of plans. So we're doing what we originally planned to do

00:03:52.720 tonight but also we are so the original plan tonight was to do

00:04:02.560 covering two bits of lore that are uh sometimes grouped together and sometimes done

00:04:07.680 separately collectively they're known as the svip dogs mall um the first part being the

00:04:16.960 the Grogalder, and the second part, the Fjolsvinsmaul, and we're going to do them separate.

00:04:27.060 We're lumping them together tonight.

00:04:29.140 We're going to cover both of them because we have a special treat for you in the month

00:04:32.620 of December.

00:04:35.040 Every single Wednesday in that month, Witten Svahn and myself are going to go through

00:04:41.620 uh ale saga and that is one of if not the most exciting and all over the place and chock full of

00:04:55.220 um oftentimes meaty but just as often entertaining and fun content of any of our sagas it's you know

00:05:09.420 It is a very complete, very long, very intense saga that's got lots of parts about someone who is a very interesting man who lived an extremely interesting life.

00:05:24.340 And we celebrate him with a day of remembrance on the 9th of next month.

00:05:30.340 And so we're going to jump ahead and go ahead and do that saga the entire month of December.

00:05:37.240 I think it'll be fun for everybody.

00:05:38.860 i encourage everybody to read along on their own to get immersed in the background of it and uh

00:05:45.740 yeah i'm looking forward to that it's gonna be a lot of fun it's been a number of years since i've

00:05:50.060 read the saga myself um so i think it'll be exciting for everybody involved and uh

00:05:59.020 to go over it with iceland's own witness von harrell i think will be an added added bonus he

00:06:06.940 can add some some context and some familiarity and i think it's going to be really good um

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00:08:32.620 very thankful that we have the opportunity to get speak with you guys every week

00:08:38.940 so as always tonight we're going to and i think the link will pop up we're going to be going

00:08:45.100 through the bellows translation you can use whatever translation you'd like feel free to

00:08:52.380 follow along with us ask questions whenever you want questions that are about the text or about

00:09:02.540 a topic raised in the text we'll try to do as those come about and questions that are are less

00:09:10.220 directly related we're going to save till the end of the show but we will stick around and answer

00:09:14.460 all your questions um it's fun can you give folks any necessary background for tonight's

00:09:26.780 uh bits of lore anything they should know going in any points of familiarity

00:09:31.500 they should have before we crack this open um this poem is super interesting

00:09:39.980 has, I think, a lot of lore to offer, but it is not a common one that a lot of people know just

00:09:50.760 right off the top of their head. If we're talking about Lord Othyn speaking to the witch,

00:10:01.000 you know, that's pretty straightforward. If we talk about Lord Thor going into Jotunheim

00:10:05.760 and uh you know going through his trials of strength um that these are ones that come to mind

00:10:12.800 um however this one is not so much and it's in league with the uh poem that we covered a little

00:10:22.000 while back um hindlio uh hind la leal where um the uh the the holy freya tries to

00:10:35.280 get hindla to speak of otars um uh lineage and we talked about ascendancy well in this case too

00:10:47.360 i would also make a point that sweep dog or a sweep day swift day who is a character in this

00:10:56.480 poem may be one in the same he may be otter and otter also may be older who is a big mystery

00:11:04.960 for a lot of folks when they talk about older and the holy freya and the um the loss of her lover

00:11:15.440 who makes you know she sheds gold and tears a lot of folks think linguistically that this means her

00:11:23.360 that uh is it's lord ovin but um i think this poem kind of really sets a tone that

00:11:30.480 that this may not be the case and what we see here is um another iteration of the fact that the holy

00:11:39.760 freya gives out boon to um mortal slash you know ascendant or um you know eventually risen um

00:11:55.120 folk but i would argue too that sweep dog goes all the way back further um into

00:12:05.360 our history uh i would say of the migration periods uh and and you know early stages of rome

00:12:14.640 um because there are lending uh tales uh that that just mimic and then there's also

00:12:23.520 there's claims that sweep dog is part of um royal family lines and so

00:12:31.600 you know the he's never quite listed as a god and then there's also the general acceptance that his

00:12:41.840 his mother or stepmother in the poem is a jotun but an or an ancient being um however that's you

00:12:52.800 know not um it's not super established but at the same time it's kind of like it could be simply

00:13:00.400 implied when the gods encounter beings outside of the middle world, it's generally seen that they

00:13:06.120 are not, you know, folk. Um, but at the same time, I mean, we speak about, uh, Lord Odin raising the

00:13:17.560 vulva in, uh, or the, uh, the vulva in the witch in, um, the underworld. And is she a Jotun? Is she 0.96

00:13:27.760 a human um you know it's it's it's left to mystery so we have the story of a young hero um

00:13:40.080 speaking to his mother who is a uh a practicer of saver um which is is a form of like well you know

00:13:48.720 know, trance, um, meditation and communication, um, and is asking her to help him, um, ultimately

00:14:01.560 gain access to the maiden surrounded by fire. That's a huge one. Um, I won't go too much into

00:14:11.080 that. We'll, we'll, we'll cover it, but a couple of things for people to know this poem was two

00:14:17.700 separate poems um but since the subject is on um on sweep day or sweep day uh sweep dog that um

00:14:29.940 generally people combine these two together though they're technically two separate poems

00:14:34.660 so the first one is called groa galder and groa is the stepmother or the mother of sleep dog and

00:14:43.620 galder uh generally we think of it as to mean like a runic um sound but the overall usage of

00:14:52.180 the word is that it's a spell it's um a verbal incantation of some sort and it can also be

00:14:59.860 used synonymously with simply magic so i think the broad sense of this this term is this is

00:15:07.940 Groa's spell or Groa's magic um would be a better kind of translation of this title and um

00:15:18.740 there it's it's very small very short and then we move into the the latter the the latter half

00:15:25.220 um so it's just worth noting that also sweep dog is one of the only characters that is

00:15:32.820 is word for word or letter for letter translated in um saxo grammaticus is gesta denorum um

00:15:43.660 saxo grammaticus was a uh a christian dane uh and he wrote the history of the kings of denmark

00:15:52.500 uh the difference was is that he you know really pushed in the gods but he uhemarized them

00:16:00.360 completely. He made them mortals. He made them, uh, you know, capricious Kings and so on and so

00:16:06.560 forth. Um, and I, you know, he did this partially for his disdain. And the other part is because he,

00:16:17.380 um, you know, was of that mindset that the only reason why his ancestors would believe in these

00:16:23.760 gods is because they were somehow tricked by humans. But it's interesting that he very rarely

00:16:31.960 is there a cross-referencing, but he places Sweepdog in the list of the originators of

00:16:39.920 the kings of Denmark. And so Sweepdog being either an exalted one, which I think is the case,

00:16:48.840 But there could be argument, too, that he is an avatar of some sort. The ability for the gods to place themselves into the middle world and exist and affect Orlog is a topic that we've discussed before amongst the Gothars.

00:17:10.260 like to what level would it be, you know, to do such things, you know, and what evidence do we

00:17:17.220 have that the gods might have done it. And Sveepdag or Otar are prime examples of that possibility,

00:17:26.160 along with shield sheafing, who's mentioned in Beowulf. So the mentioning is scant,

00:17:34.160 But I think ultimately, Svipta is an elevated soul who, more likely than not, is Oður, the lost lover of Holy Freyja.

00:17:49.840 Over in the chat, I see a couple of Croatian war master wanted to pop in and let everybody

00:18:09.200 know that uh odin is the ancestral god of english speakers who are white um

00:18:21.040 i would say he is the ancestral god of all speakers and non-speakers who happen to be white

00:18:30.080 he is yeah but he is certainly that which you claim that he is as well um

00:18:40.160 Yeah, so.

00:18:46.580 Anyway, Sierra is having a problem with her speakers and the snooze you can use, I suppose.

00:18:54.880 Everybody else, I think I do understand your question.

00:18:58.960 I don't suck at life.

00:19:00.620 And we will get to that later this evening.

00:19:05.040 Look forward to seeing you back then.

00:19:06.260 If not, we will answer that when we're done with the text.

00:19:10.360 With that, Svon, would you like to get us started on tonight's poem?

00:19:16.540 Yeah, and one thing I would like to point out right away, and this is something that scholars, you know, there's the mistakes that could be made during transcribing the stories.

00:19:31.120 the stories were stories first and then they became poems that fit within specific styles

00:19:38.940 and had very strict rules so they were carved and shaped to fit in the mold and then these

00:19:46.740 were transcribed um and it was Snorri Sturluson and Simon who gathered these together and wrote

00:19:56.740 much but not all there may have been nameless transcribers excuse me as well and so in doing

00:20:07.000 that there is some um writing repetitive errors and things that are kind of mismatched I I would

00:20:16.700 say to be honest there are a lot less than um I would suspect if you know with like the the

00:20:23.800 telephone game, if you will, but it is evident here that, and, uh, it's generally, it's on

00:20:30.300 Bellows, um, who translates this. He, he of course gets, um, the Holy Freya and Frigga, um, mixed up

00:20:40.460 because of the Haiti that is used. Um, there's a name in here that's going to be spoken. It's

00:20:47.020 Menglov, and Menglov is, Menglader, is gladly of, like, gladly adorning the necklace, and

00:20:58.340 Bellows kind of misinterprets that and says that the Holy Frigga is the bearer, or Holy Frigga is

00:21:11.520 the bearer of the brisingaman the necklace that um is the origin of of um her power and

00:21:19.200 and what exudes into the world through um our passions and and desires um so he he does mess

00:21:27.280 that up and it's kind of seen if you're on the website i think they write about it he writes

00:21:32.240 about it in the bottom um so we start off with with uh sweep day um swift day or sudden day

00:21:45.600 is his name and it it really does speak to the idea of the breaking of light over a mountain

00:21:53.280 it's um it it's sudden it's swift and it cuts right into the eyes so very very kind of poetic

00:22:01.600 name sweep day speaks in one he says wake thee groa wake mother good at the doors of the dead

00:22:12.880 i call thee thy son bethink thee thou baddest to seek thy help at the hill of death so one of the

00:22:24.640 things to consider in this situation is that groa may be beyond the veil and the hill of death um we

00:22:35.520 know that our ancestors talked about the threshold of death the point in which there is of no return

00:22:44.400 is Nipah's cave. And Nipah's cave is where Garmar, the guardian of the dead, where he resides.

00:22:57.500 So again, this is him standing at the threshold, but it also could be a barrow mound.

00:23:05.660 And this is a common theme that is in stories of our ancestors, is coming to the barrow mound,

00:23:13.220 cutting open the barrow mound and speaking in in order to see the ghostly image of um you know

00:23:23.660 the former king or one's father or one's and one's mother so this poem really i think has

00:23:31.880 really old dating um and the reason for this is the when you look at the funerary practices of

00:23:41.580 our ancestors, it moved from barrow mounds to cremations, and then kind of back to barrow

00:23:51.740 mounds and cremation. Like, they kind of joined. So, you know, by the dating of this poem, as far

00:24:03.420 as when it was possibly constructed, I think that they're lending back to the further time,

00:24:08.580 the original time in which uh kurgans were made or barrows were made um by our ancestors

00:24:15.460 ancestors to to the icelanders who composed this poem um so uh groa speaks

00:24:27.780 uh what what evil vexes mine only son what baleful fate hast thou found

00:24:37.540 that thou callest thy mother who lies in the mold and the world of the living has left

00:24:48.980 this um would of course lend more so that groa is not a yachting but a powerful uh 0.71

00:24:58.180 witch of of the human world um but again the usage of a mole molder

00:25:05.140 molder being dust or the earth itself in relation to the dead. And Svipdai

00:25:16.420 speaks in three, he says, the woman false whom my father embraced has brought me a 0.99

00:25:24.040 baleful game. For she bade me go forth where none may fare and Mengloth the maid 0.99

00:25:32.760 to seek. So now he's been tasked in order to find the love who is Mengloth, or

00:25:46.860 the one who adorns the necklace, the glad necklace bearer. Groa speaks,

00:25:55.080 long is the way long thou must wander but long is love as well now mayest find purchase perchance

00:26:05.640 what thou fain wouldn't have if the fates their favor will give so here is kind of where it starts

00:26:15.720 to frame the idea that perhaps the the notion of gaining ascendancy with the divine is a process

00:26:28.440 it has a a way to do it but it is long and is arduous but ultimately uniting with the divine

00:26:39.160 um is the end goal and um also she you know makes point to say that and it that the translation is

00:26:50.520 not fates but scald and for those that know of the of the mother nornir scald is debt or doom

00:27:01.560 or that which is in essence fated to happen based off of the actions before um the willfulness that

00:27:12.600 you you participate in now will ultimately weave your debt or your doom or your your your fate

00:27:21.000 so i thought that was very interesting that he says you know if the fates their favor will give

00:27:26.280 but at the same time i understand he can't go in and and say debt or doom people might

00:27:33.160 not quite understand what that means but it's worth noting that the the word in the old north

00:27:38.200 skull just means that the things you do now may very well give you the pathway to your goal um

00:27:48.680 So it frames it differently from a fatalist view that it doesn't matter if Sweepdog tries or doesn't try.

00:27:58.640 The end result is already manifested.

00:28:02.860 No, what Groa is saying is that your actions may very well lead you to that which you deserve.

00:28:11.760 so that's a really important

00:28:16.280 it's an important thing for us to realize there's a I'd say a significant misconception

00:28:25.520 when it comes to Ausatru and free will there is an idea that there's all this predetermined fate

00:28:38.360 And you're just kind of at the whim of it. So I've seen that go two ways. I think people proudly will say that in the sense of, you know, being fearless because, you know, fate's already been written.

00:29:01.780 so you're just you know nothing that's going to happen to you that hasn't already been foretold

00:29:06.100 so just go and embrace whatever challenge in front of you i've also seen it as a lazy excuse

00:29:13.060 not to do something because well you know fate's got it all planned out so it doesn't really matter

00:29:18.660 what i do anyway and people uh beat their chest about that less proudly but i think it gives them

00:29:25.860 an excuse to sit on their hand and be in a corner of benches or grandma's couch

00:29:31.780 the linguistics matter the concept matters schooled is the same route as should not will

00:29:44.560 not must not has been foretold but it is it's directional it's a projection of

00:29:53.880 if you stay the course and you continue this path this is the likely outcome

00:30:01.080 but it's not a guarantee and it's really important to factor that in there's

00:30:07.920 by understanding and aligning yourself with the workings of earth you can see things to come you

00:30:18.060 can have visions or premonitions of the future but your actions and the things you do and the

00:30:27.180 things you put in the well, they're what shape the next phase of that tapestry. You can deviate from

00:30:34.680 the course that's been presented before you, be that a good course or a bad course. You can lean

00:30:41.000 into it and embrace it. And, you know, it's also been mentioned and should be reiterated that

00:30:49.540 Scold is the name of one of our holy Nornir who looks over that future projection of things.

00:30:58.880 I think that it's much less related to a fixed linear must happen and much closer to a momentum, if you understand it.

00:31:15.100 that's the momentum an event is headed that is a forecast of future events with present data

00:31:22.940 and with things that are likely to occur one can completely abdicate their responsibilities and

00:31:29.420 drastically alter the momentum the the school of something that ought to happen um so there's a lot

00:31:38.940 of there's a lot more depth in the concept than i think uh sociologists and early scholars of this

00:31:52.940 have uh bequeathed down to us in their their treatment of it so make note of that

00:32:08.940 all right let's see um and just not expounding on that but the next um verse does kind of show

00:32:21.100 that sense of um desire to will does not always mean the completeness of an outcome

00:32:30.940 and you had made mention that a lot of times fatalism works towards um you know kind of

00:32:37.820 abolishing fear in in some way or or at least an attempt to but in this in uh in five um

00:32:47.580 it's uh it's a different way in which he you know he says like no i i am you know afraid that i will

00:32:55.340 be cut down in my prime in this in the danger um and that's why he's here this is his motivation

00:33:01.900 is to gain the charms um to protect him um the spells to to be read over him that will safeguard

00:33:13.260 him from death so that he you know will not die at such a young age and he says it right here in five

00:33:19.420 he says um sweet duck says charms full good then chant to me mother and seek thy son to guard

00:33:30.700 for death do i fear on the way i shall fare and in years i am young me thinks

00:33:37.980 so you know he says speak your spells good over me and keep keep your mind in protecting me while

00:33:46.660 you speak these spells because death is on the road that i am going to travel and i am young

00:33:53.320 And I think ultimately, too, is what the ultimate point of this is, again, another Aryan mythos cycle is the attainment of the heart or the knowledge or the winning of the maiden.

00:34:12.360 and this is you know so familiar even into the christian times with with knights um it is the

00:34:21.820 same cut from the same cloth and this may be pre-migration era in in the sense of the story

00:34:28.900 so the idea of the warrior going forth and finding the maiden passing through trials and then gaining

00:34:38.060 her um love her affection or her realization is a very old aryan mythos cycle and again applying

00:34:51.600 this to the possibility that the maiden is also a goddess and the idea that she's an

00:34:56.880 and that we uh can through great devotion be um elevated in in ways if we you know it as far as

00:35:08.640 focusing perhaps a devotion to one um of the gods um so in six groa speaks then first i will chant

00:35:21.760 thee the charm oft tried that rani taught to rind from the shoulder whatever mislikes these shake

00:35:33.200 for the helper thyself shalt thou have so this one right out uh rani and rind the only thing

00:35:44.320 that i can find is is that rani is a haiti for lord odin and it means the one who ransacks or the

00:35:53.360 one who plundered a plunderer um a pilferer if you will and here he teaches it to render

00:36:03.520 and that's a really interesting thing because render is one of the oust veneer and she gives

00:36:10.480 birth to one of the holy gods um and depending on the accounts whether it's um saxo or or sorry

00:36:19.840 snorty or saxo saxo says that the gods are human and that lord oh then um conquested

00:36:29.840 render who was the queen of the ruthians which um was uh was the ukrainians or what would be ukraine

00:36:39.840 now um that he he conquested her and used spells and herbs to um to get her and to to uh sleep with

00:36:50.640 her but the difference with snorty is is that you know he views the gods in their proper places as

00:36:57.280 divine beings and this again attests to the fact that rinder is amongst the gods enough to where

00:37:05.840 where Lord Odin teaches her spells. Some people have suggested, though, that this is the spell

00:37:12.780 that he used in order to weaken her. But I don't think that is particularly the case. And again,

00:37:26.560 we have to remind ourselves that Saxo had a heavy, heavy need to vilify the gods in a lot of

00:37:34.040 different ways. Um, yeah, so, um, so in this case here, uh, it says from the shoulder, whatever

00:37:46.840 mislikes these shakes, uh, these shake for the helper thyself shalt thou have. So anything that

00:37:54.520 befalls you will be shirked off of you and onto, uh, something else or another. Um, so that you,

00:38:02.400 uh, in essence, it's like making the false target. Um, anybody who might know of like

00:38:08.020 witches jars or things of that ilk, that's what this is. Um, and in seven, the next I will chant

00:38:17.580 the, if needs thou must travel and wander a purposeless way, the bolts of earth shall on

00:38:25.920 every side be thy guard on the road thou goest so if you find yourself lost then the very fabric of

00:38:38.640 fate will guide you back towards the destination that you must apply your will

00:38:48.560 the bolts of earth i i um i the interesting part about that is the word

00:38:54.080 that um is used as locker and um bolts um are these are kind of like the pieces that would um

00:39:05.600 like rivet planks of a ship together so um i just you know i found it interesting the translation

00:39:14.480 as bolts but um again the the fabric or the substance of fate will always from all sides

00:39:24.800 from everywhere guide you to where you need to go where your where your intended purpose

00:39:30.880 where your will has led you or is wanting you you know where you want your will to lead you

00:39:37.360 I just realized too

00:39:43.160 that's both mentions of two of the great

00:39:45.280 Nornir

00:39:45.680 so in eight

00:39:50.100 then third

00:39:52.800 I will chant thee

00:39:54.300 if threatening streaming

00:39:57.020 or threatening streams

00:39:59.040 the danger of death

00:40:00.820 shall bring

00:40:01.700 yet to hell shall turn both 0.58

00:40:04.700 horn and ruth

00:40:06.860 and before the the waters shall fail now this part here is that again when we're talking about

00:40:16.180 those writing um translational problems but bellows doesn't translate this wrong i think

00:40:24.220 this is actually a notation from when uh from the composers of the poem um and it's mainly

00:40:32.720 because these two uh rivers the waters that are are part of the elvegaur the uh the 11 rivers and

00:40:43.920 they're not the the words that are used here are not mentioned in grimness small but the

00:40:49.360 there are two rivers that kind of match with that and that is chron and hrid and um oftentimes h's

00:40:57.440 are dropped off so like ruth as it's used here the possibility of having the h dropped off is

00:41:04.160 pretty high especially as latin and other languages started to function a lot in old

00:41:10.320 norse so it's generally seen that these this is this writing is incorrect and that it is

00:41:17.600 it is on and hriv the two rivers of the underworld so um if the threatening streams

00:41:29.280 the danger of death shall bring so if you're looming near the the rivers of death if your time

00:41:35.600 is is being uh you know where you're brought to this point um and you're and to the land of the

00:41:42.960 dead you shall turn um then i or then i shall turn you away from these rivers that preside in

00:41:50.080 the underworld so um again yes if you are close to death you shall avert it um and in nine then 0.71

00:42:00.720 forth i will chant thee if comes thy foes on the gallows way against thee into thine hands

00:42:09.360 shall their hearts be given and peace shall the warrior warriors wish so

00:42:18.240 this is truly an interesting one it's not about defeating your enemies physically but winning

00:42:23.440 them over and that in turn she's saying that she's speaking the gall that are or the runes

00:42:33.040 and that if you find people in their heart to come and take your life the moment that they see you

00:42:41.680 um and you are you know close to them you will win them over and they'll wish peace upon you um

00:42:54.320 yeah i uh i always am kind of like floored by that idea too is it's not always about

00:43:02.000 simply defeating your enemies sometimes it is about speaking your case and turning them to be

00:43:08.400 allies is a great strength as well um and in 10 then a fifth i will chant thee if fetters perchance

00:43:19.760 shall bind thy bending limbs o'er thy thighs do i chant a loosening charm and and the lock it

00:43:28.560 will burst from the limbs and the fetters fall from the feet now this is the same at in the

00:43:35.440 runatal which is a section of the album almost the exact same i mean yeah the last part is the exact

00:43:43.520 same words yeah and um so there is these correlations that you know sometimes we we

00:43:54.080 speculate about the idea of like singular runes and that's much easier to do in the rune at all

00:43:59.840 because on the younger fruit arc there's there's direct correlations it's also ensues that is the

00:44:07.280 rune that loosens the fetters right on sews and again the the the referencing to lord othen as

00:44:16.080 the looser of fetters is one of his haiti um and the the valk knot and i know we had a discussion

00:44:25.440 about that a little while back about you know is it krongnir's heart um and i you know i i already

00:44:34.160 stated too that i don't i don't think that is the case i think that krongnir's heart having three

00:44:39.280 sides is not indicative of the of the knot but the idea of the knot and it being a fetter that

00:44:48.640 binds you to the ultimate fate in the machinations of lord odin that when you place it upon your body

00:44:56.560 and this is super strange we're talking about this is i was just talking about this to my son this

00:45:01.040 morning um the knot and and it meaning that you are you know fettered by the one who you know can

00:45:11.600 release all fetters um the one who ties the most uh unbreakable knot is lord odin and that is the

00:45:19.920 knot of your fate and being you know brought into um his plans without question or without um remorse

00:45:28.500 so here this the fettering and the the idea that our ancestors saw value in this let's look at this

00:45:36.980 from another angle fettering getting tied up and and being able to loosen yourself from the fetters

00:45:45.520 um this was enough of a situation that it was you know deemed with great worth

00:45:54.420 um the idea that you could be captured the idea that you could be enslaved and i think most folks

00:46:01.820 who are familiar with germanic culture and with nordic culture is that you know again bond bondage

00:46:10.020 slavery um being uh fettered was such a grievous thing um that you know to be able to loosen

00:46:23.980 yourself from them at that height of it was is important so i think it reflects to how much

00:46:31.420 there is a sense of being free or being able to you know do the things you wish to do and willfully

00:46:40.220 in the world and not being uh locked down this goes into a comment that you had made last time

00:46:51.020 um you were here about

00:46:58.780 about how you thought that uh

00:47:03.020 fenrir was the worst of loki's children um whereas the text had mentioned uh jormungandr

00:47:10.540 as being the worst when we talk about fettering and constriction the idea of restraint from

00:47:20.220 expansion um being pinned down and unable to overcome one of the big and this is obviously

00:47:30.540 absolutely applicable to actually if your foes tie you up but on a bigger sense in a bigger

00:47:40.440 layer in our lore being able to escape your limitations to go beyond your limitations to

00:47:53.200 break free and to expand is extremely extremely important the idea of overcoming limitation

00:48:04.800 ascension is very much a key to any kind of ascension and uh i think it's particularly

00:48:12.720 apropos and i think this maybe overextends the the metaphor a bit but i think it's really

00:48:17.900 important to kind of mention when we talk about heroes and especially this month when we've

00:48:25.040 spoken about the einherjar the idea of that is transcending your human limitation to ascend and

00:48:35.080 become something more those um i think is as the vedics would refer to it attachments your ability

00:48:46.200 to transcend and go beyond the limitations and the things that would bind you is a key

00:48:56.200 towards ascension and I think this speaks to that as well.

00:49:04.920 Part of the rune that's, you know, applicable in that spell, it has kind of, it's strange

00:49:10.580 linguistically is there's a as the proto-germanic word ansus filters down into the old norse

00:49:24.900 it bifurcates and it means part of it goes to mean house and and our the ic or our gods

00:49:35.220 and another part of it starts to mean mouth or estuary they come from that same root

00:49:43.140 and i think that's worth mentioning when we talk about um

00:49:50.020 galder work and incantation as we mentioned earlier there's something very sacred and very

00:49:55.620 transformative about vocalizing, speaking into existence. And that's one of the most primal

00:50:05.860 things that we are imbued with, that our gods bless us with. And one of the close associations

00:50:16.140 with not only Allfather Odin, but with his predecessors

00:50:20.960 is the roaring, the divine utterance,

00:50:26.740 the speaking into his existence,

00:50:28.940 the breaking the silence with voice.

00:50:33.620 I think all of those things play together

00:50:39.680 in the matrix of this particular spell.

00:50:46.140 um i saw too in the comments uh igir kuningas he says you know groa is the deece of vegetation

00:51:05.180 um let me see the daughter

00:51:08.540 i don't know why this is not so easy for me to read uh the deece of vegetation the daughter of

00:51:18.220 the alvar sigtrig sister of sif mother of older sweep dog with um

00:51:26.940 ale and uh good domer with connor and this is accordance to ryberg um i think that that's

00:51:41.900 that is an interesting take but to to say so assuredly i would i would give pause um

00:51:49.340 Um, Groa's name does, it lends to the idea of something growing, the growing, um, or, you know, something of, of either power or, or vitality.

00:52:02.720 um but to say she is a deece that is

00:52:07.820 that's interesting because the title deece and the title alvar

00:52:14.400 does implicate the idea that they are are or once were human unless we're you know especially in the

00:52:24.480 deece format we don't know if the deece are ever being referred to um outside of mortality unless

00:52:30.860 it's in reference to

00:52:32.860 something else like for instance

00:52:34.620 the Holy Freya is

00:52:36.660 called Vanadis

00:52:39.600 and we know

00:52:40.840 that dis means a twister of fate or

00:52:42.720 a giver of boon and

00:52:44.820 of wealth and of happiness

00:52:46.660 but when you state

00:52:47.860 that a dis of

00:52:50.800 vegetation

00:52:51.440 I think it's interesting

00:52:54.460 or at least when Ryberg states that

00:52:56.800 I don't fault that and I don't

00:52:59.000 fault the

00:52:59.980 uh descendancy from from uh king sigtrid um the sister of seaf i think that's the one i was yeah

00:53:11.620 highly speculative um again i don't i don't know that to be false but i also don't know

00:53:22.060 that to be true either i see the association certainly with the idea of vegetation and

00:53:28.780 growing things um yeah and i don't i don't have a strong enough dog in the fight to really take

00:53:36.640 fault with it i'm just not yet convinced of that well yeah and that's what i was going to say is

00:53:42.380 that the connection to mortality through the ds would then kind of uh allocate uh sif to be removed

00:53:50.900 from this lineage line because sif is of it of the divine um and i have always taken that the

00:54:00.980 groa and sweep dog are connected to but i was just making the reason why ryberg brings this

00:54:08.500 up is because in the guest of the norm sweep dog is mentioned as being um in descendancy

00:54:15.460 i want to put this out there for anybody and perhaps at one point it's not

00:54:21.700 it's not up there on my list of things to go over because it is just such a

00:54:28.420 difficult and convoluted um

00:54:34.420 not work of things uh if you haven't read the guested the norm which i suppose okay so i show

00:54:42.100 my age a bit um when swan and i got involved in also true that was one of the big ones that a lot

00:54:49.700 of people read it's come to my attention that in recent years um it's far more obscure than it once

00:54:57.620 was as far as people reading it so if you haven't read it it's a very interesting read but it's also

00:55:04.900 very confusing and I don't necessarily put, I think that it has value to enhance and add

00:55:20.580 meat on the bone of some of our other lore, but I also think it's very problematic and

00:55:28.040 And so I don't take it as authoritative always.

00:55:35.840 I think it's really interesting.

00:55:37.940 And I think I take it with much more grains of salt than I would take other pieces of our lore.

00:55:44.080 But I do find it fascinating.

00:55:45.340 And I don't mean to disparage it.

00:55:49.340 But I think it does add a lot of confusion into the mix.

00:55:53.980 And I don't think that's due to accuracy always.

00:55:59.980 There is a very overt force there to like forcibly you hemorrhize all of the divine into a historical chronological narrative that's strange and incongruent with other things we know.

00:56:19.160 but it is it it is an interesting source and i know that reidberg and folks that follow his um

00:56:25.520 trying to thought on that lean heavily into it and i do think there's valuable things to be

00:56:32.160 gained from it i find it really interesting but it's a really it's a really cool source and a

00:56:37.640 really cool book and if you have not read it or you should familiarize yourself with it and maybe

00:56:43.380 will chip away at that at some point it's kind of a daunting task it's a it is a weighty tome and

00:56:49.940 it's uh yeah that's a lot so we may hit that at some point i think that's interesting i do think

00:56:59.540 as we go through our lore something it's not celebrated or spoken about as

00:57:03.700 lot is a lot is the idea of mortal ascendancy and becoming

00:57:16.100 the idea in the greek of a demigod isn't quite the same but as something more than just human

00:57:24.580 and something a uh closer associate with our gods and i think we do see we don't see that

00:57:33.380 as the focus very often but we do see that occur time and again in the periphery

00:57:46.100 oh and uh just to answer um eager eager cunning guys asked what was the book it's guest of the

00:57:53.780 honorum by sax or grammaticus i don't know if nick can write that down for you

00:58:04.420 what does that translate to the deeds the history and deeds of the danes

00:58:11.380 uh yes guesta well i'm trying to think of what usually the english title is if it comes out to

00:58:18.580 something different it's like jordane's history of the goths that's not what it was in gothic but

00:58:29.700 yeah i guess to the norm is the title you're usually going to find it under

00:58:39.780 yeah my old old norse translation doesn't bring it up well that's because it's well and it's a

00:58:46.260 hybrid with his latinization like yeah i think it's the latin for um oh that's right it's probably

00:58:54.740 latin based entirely yes because saxo is you know good at his grammar as his uh

00:59:03.780 title would indicate and that grammar being latin grammar because he is a

00:59:10.020 now what was his position with the church do we know

00:59:17.200 oh the roman catholic church anyways that's a strange side trail and we're

00:59:23.740 in the midst here so let's try let's go ahead and finish out um

00:59:29.920 this work and we'll get into the next section here because we're getting close

00:59:36.520 all right yeah we did kind of tangent off we as we tend to do as we tend to do

00:59:43.020 it's like running around in circles now this is interesting too because um

00:59:48.860 it it people will will hear it um and it's just it's kind of an interesting point in which

00:59:58.220 the the story itself is probably all the way back to the migration period but there's a

01:00:06.820 mentioning here that brings it right into the modern time if you know if you were um

01:00:12.440 a poet of the you know 10th to 11th century um that i find you know super amusing it it amuses

01:00:23.340 me all the time every time i hear it um but it does kind of play some of the politics that were

01:00:28.380 going on at the time or at least the religious politics um pause before spawn gets into it just

01:00:35.500 because i found it out the idea is saxo was the archbishop's clerk perhaps and guested in oram

01:00:42.540 does mean the deeds of the danes which you know deeds that are written down are history so yeah

01:00:53.340 History or deeds of the Danes, I think, probably works, but linguistically.

01:00:58.960 Go ahead.

01:01:00.580 All right.

01:01:00.940 Well, so in 12, it says, and she's still chanting the spells over Svita.

01:01:11.380 And she says, a seventh, I chant thee, if frost shall seek to kill thee on lofty crags, the fatal cold shall not grip thy flesh and whole thy body shall be.

01:01:28.120 so again all of these spells all of these poems when you're reading this should be in your mind

01:01:39.800 wow this these are like viable um concerns amongst our ancestors this was something they

01:01:48.400 they didn't want charms of uselessness they wanted ones that that made sense and um again

01:01:56.260 no more is more prudent than in number 13 um an eighth i will chant thee if ever by night

01:02:05.780 thou shalt wander on murky ways yet never the curse of a christian woman from the dead shall

01:02:13.300 do the harm and uh it's this one is just super interesting um the uh so the translation is

01:02:24.660 kristin down corner a christian dead woman um and it this this cursing from beyond the grave or um

01:02:43.700 while possibly one is dying i looked into a little bit about this and um

01:02:48.660 there's a couple of things. One, Christians looked very badly upon their fellow folk who 0.97

01:02:57.840 still remained to the native European faith. Their religion is kind of bent to do that. 0.99

01:03:05.880 And the idea that a curse or something that can affect people was still held before

01:03:15.160 um, Christianity came. So the idea of it just being a Christian woman lends me to think that 0.84

01:03:23.140 this is more of a common occurrence that, that, uh, that, you know, uh, that these, 0.99

01:03:28.880 these Christian women would, um, have a tendency to sling curses upon those around them. I mean, 1.00

01:03:37.380 these women were, in essence, the first kind of, you know, turncoat slash betrayers of their 0.96

01:03:52.080 culture. I came not to bring peace, but a sword. Oh, that's from the Bible, right? 0.90

01:03:59.680 Yeah, that's, but the key tenant to that passage, I came not to bring peace, but a sword to turn

01:04:07.340 and I don't want to, you know, get it wrong, but to turn basically to turn kinfolk against one

01:04:12.640 another. Right. To sever that. There are no bonds of kinship, you know, to eliminate bonds of

01:04:19.260 kinship in order to tie the worshippers specifically with the white Christ. 0.69

01:04:25.700 See, that is a very interesting point because you see that on social media where they're trying to

01:04:30.500 say, oh, you know, the rabbi Yeshua is not so pacifist because he said this. But if you read

01:04:36.180 further it's no it's so that you it's not a sword to slay the foe it's a sword to divide families

01:04:43.320 to defy your own families apart cut you apart from your parents and from your line of kinship

01:04:49.600 right because they could be good people but if they don't accept the the the rabbi and the truth

01:04:55.580 and the light in the way they don't get in to the um yeah because the man's not saved by deeds but

01:05:02.840 by faith alone that none might boast. That's why our random side point here, and this will become

01:05:12.340 more relevant later, and it's certainly relevant when we celebrate the ascendancy of King 0.89

01:05:22.240 a Thanaric, but recognizing the threat of Christianity to severing and disrupting kinship 0.93

01:05:30.900 and clan and cutting people off and making them rootless was something that the wise 0.96

01:05:40.160 amongst our ancestors noticed and those who could break the fetters of the momentum of

01:05:50.860 time they were in stood against and tried to stem the tide of yeah this this kinship between folk um

01:06:03.500 you know i think a lot of people try to utilize it against say if they're ideologically against

01:06:09.420 us you know they'll try to say oh you know um our you know your people enslaved each other

01:06:17.660 like yes slavery's been practiced all over the world by everyone so ethnic groups would enslave

01:06:23.840 ethnic groups especially uh posted the full the full passage from matthew 10 i appreciate that

01:06:32.600 because those of everyone who's not familiar with their bible and i'm not trying to believe me this

01:06:39.360 is not the program i'm trying to well well you know what you should you should be familiar with

01:06:45.160 it so you know so you know what that's about because it's very far it's very far from what

01:06:53.520 i think a lot of christians are aware of or would try to to tell you and i think this

01:06:59.620 was a very very clear thing we all should know um the apostle matthew you know in that book

01:07:09.300 it says do not you know

01:07:11.300 Jesus says

01:07:15.060 do not think that I came to bring peace

01:07:17.280 on earth I did not come to

01:07:19.220 bring peace but a sword for I

01:07:21.200 have come to set a man against his father 0.97

01:07:23.200 and a daughter against her mother

01:07:25.400 and a daughter-in-law against her 0.95

01:07:27.200 mother-in-law and a man's

01:07:28.980 enemies will be those of his own 1.00

01:07:31.160 household

01:07:31.700 and I think that

01:07:36.080 you know I think that we

01:07:39.000 can't um spread the good word uh you know too much on that i think the more we let that be known

01:07:49.000 the more clear and stark the choice between that and between anything else but very specifically

01:07:56.520 between that and between also true for our folk is painted in very clear uh colors for us all

01:08:06.280 and i think we would do well to heed that

01:08:11.320 yeah i think that's a good one to bear in mind when the intention of like oh we're not so pacifist

01:08:17.320 we we should be you know uh what are they templars or knights you know fighting for

01:08:22.840 the holy land and it's like read the rest of that it's not good it's literally warned against

01:08:29.240 in the Velozbow as well as the beginning

01:08:31.440 of Ragnarok.

01:08:33.600 Yeah, I saw that where

01:08:35.260 you had posted, Nick, he posted

01:08:37.380 the Velozbow where it says

01:08:39.160 that brother shall

01:08:41.380 fight brother

01:08:42.220 and that the bonds of family

01:08:45.560 will be broken. 1.00

01:08:48.020 Kinslaying is, of course, 0.99

01:08:49.900 on the top 1.00

01:08:51.380 of the list.

01:08:54.560 But I digress.

01:08:55.840 I just thought it was very funny.

01:08:57.180 but that's the thing about this little poem isn't

01:09:04.780 when we restrict our lore to

01:09:10.060 archaic stories of some old vikings that's fun and it's interesting but i don't think enough people

01:09:18.060 take note of the seriousness and the modern day relevance that the wisdom within it contains and

01:09:29.160 there is quite a bit quite a bit more than people realize

01:09:31.600 well and i think our ancestors when christianity was coming in and especially with these

01:09:40.300 these women um that were because they they made the groundwork before the sword there was

01:09:46.980 the woman um generally you know uh bonds of of marriage there were you know land grabs and

01:09:56.520 usury that the church used quite often but more often than not it was it was about uh introducing

01:10:03.540 women and moving them into you know spots of power from elsewhere mainland from england um

01:10:13.580 How many guys do we know, you and I, Svon, that have come through the Auschufolk Assembly and have quit and rejected everything they believed in for the attentions of a woman?

01:10:32.720 I can think of six right off the top of my head. 0.68

01:10:36.060 Lots and lots.

01:10:37.500 It's one of the things Jehovah's Witnesses specifically target women in their door-to-door ministry in order to do that.

01:10:49.720 If you plant that seed in the home and then the wife is persistent with her, you know, truth is one of our values here. 0.90

01:11:01.560 With her nagging, it leads men astray and it leads families astray.

01:11:06.560 astray and i've seen it it's a they do it because it works

01:11:15.200 it is not an honorable tactic but it is a smart tactic

01:11:20.880 right well and i i find it super interesting that to our ancestors the utterance of a woman's

01:11:30.800 death curse or the curse that she places before death or you know uh the long lasting sense like

01:11:39.000 like almost like in modern pop culture in the movies where the witch is about to be burned

01:11:45.020 and she you know says her utterances to curse everyone there that's a common uh trope that we

01:11:52.580 we um are familiar with via movies but this is kind of the same thing um i'm not saying that 0.77

01:11:59.540 were particularly killing or burning these christian women but the idea was that it was

01:12:04.500 common enough that are the audience would understand the value and and again the 0.98

01:12:12.340 the idea of the curse upon death was already set um it's just that they tagged it in as a christian

01:12:22.100 women because i guess there's there was a you know that hit home they they did it enough um

01:12:30.980 and i thought that was very very funny um and also i just read this down at the bottom

01:12:38.340 um i really like that uh bellows says uh you know that many people try to change this they

01:12:45.700 were very distressed by the uh the translation they tried to say it was a witch the dead witch

01:12:51.700 but it's clearly christian dead woman um and i love how he says um uh

01:12:59.700 the fact seems to be however that this particular charm was composed at a time

01:13:04.580 when christians were regarded by all conservative pagans as emissaries of darkness that's awesome

01:13:16.420 nowadays you would never hear conservative and pagan often like laid in the same

01:13:22.340 same words and i do get a lot of confusion from folks when i'm you know i have many um you know

01:13:28.900 christian uh clients who uh you know we see eye to eye on quite a few things and then they they

01:13:38.500 they find out that i'm ossaroo they find out that i believe in many gods and they're

01:13:43.140 it just throws them off they immediately associate that with like post-modern marxist uh

01:13:49.700 you know goobers so um so in 14 then ninth will i chant thee if needs thou must strive

01:14:06.960 with a warlike giant in words thy heart good store of wit shall have and thy mouth of words

01:14:16.000 full wise so now she's imbuing upon him um the power that is reminiscent of a warlike giant

01:14:30.240 he will have the the speech prowess that is you know indomitable and in his heart um

01:14:42.720 is of good wit and i i also find it really interesting that you know the mentioning of

01:14:48.560 the heart versus say the head um and i think that's because our ancestors did see

01:14:56.640 intelligence in the head but they also saw that there was more to simply deducing there was kind

01:15:03.200 of the feeling or the the uh the ability to affect people with your words not based solely

01:15:11.840 on your knowledge, but also to your genuineness or your intensity or your desire that your words

01:15:21.940 were important, but they had to be backed by, you know, heart, emotion, or the validity of the

01:15:31.480 words needed to be placed based on how you did other things, how you presented yourself and how

01:15:37.920 you spoke about the things that you care about.

01:15:40.980 And I just, I really

01:15:41.980 like that.

01:15:44.900 What's that?

01:15:52.900 I missed.

01:15:54.020 I didn't hear that.

01:15:59.920 Oh,

01:16:00.600 we await your interjection.

01:16:03.100 Yeah, Nick, what did you say?

01:16:04.600 I didn't hear it.

01:16:07.920 word uh do you hear me now yes we do hear you now yeah words are wind deeds are iron your words

01:16:16.300 need to be right your actions 100 yeah the or the and to just the idea that

01:16:23.020 you can turn and sway folks with words but if your heart's not in it then it's not the same

01:16:34.180 minute your heart has to be behind it um so let's see he uh and i love that warlike giant in words

01:16:45.860 that is um you know just awesome the uh the ordum skip um

01:16:53.780 so in 15 now fair on the way where danger waits let evils not lessen thy love i have stood at the

01:17:07.680 door of the earth fixed stones while i the while i chanted these charms bear hence my son what thy

01:17:19.320 mother hath said and let it live in thy breast thine ever shall be the best of fortune so long

01:17:28.960 as my words shall last so the attainment of the boon from beyond the grave is placed upon

01:17:43.540 sweet day and you know she states that the spells will remain so long as her words last as long as

01:17:53.620 um you know her her will is woven into his or law um and that's where this poem ends

01:18:06.900 and then he goes oh wait there's more yeah but wait there's more this is the part two

01:18:13.380 now where it transitions to sweep day as he searches for manglov um uh

01:18:22.260 yeah and so you know i just just to let people know um

01:18:27.940 that uh there's this there's a reason why there's like this gap here but they're generally red

01:18:35.920 the same. So, let me see if I can go here. Oh, it's even listed as Sweeps Dog Mile 2.

01:18:44.700 Part two. So, let's hit the questions that we have while we're at the intermission here.

01:18:57.360 the first one because swimming tiger uh i can't stay what do you fellas think about

01:19:05.280 ryberg's poems where svip dyer uh turns into a dragon the narana society uses them as evidence

01:19:15.200 that svip dagger is uh other freya's husband swan what are your what are your thoughts on these

01:19:23.120 these poems um i mean right off right off the top of my head let me see here um

01:19:36.320 are you saying are these poems written by rydeberg i just read i just read the question i

01:19:43.200 that's a swimming tiger question yeah so the only reason why this is not

01:19:49.520 ringing right away is and i'm wondering if it's if these are rydberg's poems but actually i don't

01:19:56.080 think that that's far of a jump um and i i'm in agreeance i i do believe that um that sweep dog

01:20:06.000 is um otar and other and that other is um you know again eventually um goes away if you will

01:20:18.400 and that causes all of that but i didn't know that because you said in defense of

01:20:24.480 i didn't know that that was a point of defense um though i do think that people you know

01:20:31.840 you like how do you go from sweep dog to otar to older um but i mean i was always of that mindset

01:20:40.640 that um sweet sweet dog and and other were the same uh beings perhaps in a different place like

01:20:50.000 right now sweet dog is in the middle world he is in the world whether he's in jotunheim or in midgard

01:20:57.680 he's still in the middle world by the time he ascends he becomes older and older is um when

01:21:05.680 he's living in the heavenly realm he has as an ascendant um and you know we see this again with

01:21:13.360 skirner and um so we have this kind of the idea is like there's ascendant heroes and then there's

01:21:21.520 avatar heroes and or avatars and so mortals that rise up to the gods and live amongst them

01:21:29.440 versus gods that come down to the earth in the form of men folk um and this is a confusing topic

01:21:38.400 and it's there's never really a lot that just contextualized straight to it but i have always

01:21:45.520 just taken that point because of the the similarities between otter and sweep dog um are

01:21:59.600 kind of glaring but other is um after the fact so there's lots of you know like speculations

01:22:11.680 oh there is odin and again people try to do that because uh odin and other sound the same and i

01:22:20.240 i cannot emphasize enough that old norse even if the the words are very close to each other

01:22:26.800 in the way that they sound. That does not mean that they share the same meaning. And it's also

01:22:33.440 worth remembering that Lord Odin, that's a title, Odin, the Furious One, or Fury, and Odr, which

01:22:41.860 in modern Icelandic can also mean Fury, but it also more lends to like inspiration and

01:22:50.500 ecstatic knowledge. I think that the name Oeder fits because as he transcends, he becomes devoted

01:23:02.360 to attaining the unattainable. Oftentimes you'll hear Auster talk about like getting to know your

01:23:10.100 valkyrie like uh the the the reflection of your soul that is the um a freudian a freudian slip

01:23:20.820 no it's a freudian concept of the uh the the opposite side of your soul being feminine if

01:23:26.900 you're a male and and male what's that the shadow uh i don't know if it's the shadow is it does that

01:23:34.820 have gender in his thing i don't know and we could go into the freudian thing but the idea of

01:23:41.700 of the completion of self right with the opposite if you're a male and you complete yourself by

01:23:50.820 joining with the the the entity soul or the the valkyrie or um sometimes people say the the filca

01:23:59.300 is um that opposite um this kind of is again once once this this this joining this union once he

01:24:10.580 goes on and ascends to be with the holy freya he becomes older he becomes the ecstatic um inspiration

01:24:24.100 um and i think that that has more of a lending to that so yeah i mean honestly i don't know

01:24:30.740 about those poems um unless it's a lore poem but the fact that you said ryberg's uh poems um

01:24:40.500 it makes it sound like and then victor spake a verse and he just busted out some like poetry about

01:24:48.420 it um i think that we get stuck in a artificial

01:25:02.820 position of enmity with uh dr ryberg and i don't think that's necessarily the case um

01:25:10.340 the norena society and us differ in in quite a few ways and because he's their guy it's easy for 0.87

01:25:22.500 him to be you know for us to be on the other team and you know he's he's a crip and we're the bloods

01:25:29.800 or whatever and i it's not it's not like that um i don't discount that man's entire corpus of

01:25:38.480 scholarship based on you know modern issues between us and uh and some folks involved in in

01:25:47.920 a different approach to also true so please don't ever take that we're like anti-rideberg i don't

01:25:54.400 i don't think that's that's certainly not my position

01:26:00.320 yeah i always try to caution people at the at the hof um you know read rideberg because his insights

01:26:08.240 are just massive but don't get caught up on the internet chatter that he is somehow

01:26:18.880 uh you know a divine prophet um which is kind of what it feels like you know they're

01:26:25.520 going towards snorty being kind of a divine nationalistic prophet and um and ryberg too and

01:26:33.840 and and you know these are all the same people that are kind of also mashing all of the gods into

01:26:38.720 odin um again yeah it doesn't make me hate the corpus of knowledge one of those things i get

01:26:49.680 you know i get you gotta rep your set like i get that but going going back in time

01:26:57.680 and making these strange alliances with that's not fair i think as far as i know i have no reason to

01:27:08.400 think that there is any scholastic dishonesty in the works of victor ryberg i don't know i'm not

01:27:16.000 an expert on the man but i have no reason to be hostile i just know that folks that we tend to

01:27:22.720 take issue with how they practice as also true in 2024 tend he's their guy just because he's their

01:27:30.800 guy doesn't mean he's you know the guy we're against that's not a thing um yeah please don't

01:27:39.360 think that i don't think we have any inherent bias against um the really pioneering birth uh

01:27:45.440 work that uh victor reiber did because that's not the case at all honestly with whatever with

01:27:51.680 our beef with the norana society i don't dislike mark purrier i like mark right now i would share

01:27:58.800 one of these delicious beers with him and hang out with him and i would give him a hug right

01:28:03.840 now if he was here i don't have any problem with him he's always been a gentleman and very kind

01:28:08.320 to me and i would absolutely return the same i've shared some mcdonald's with him at one point um

01:28:17.600 um and got to uh yeah i don't and i've talked to him many times um so it doesn't doesn't need to

01:28:26.200 be a a deeper deeper conflict than it is see and this is the part where i don't get to say this

01:28:34.260 often but i was here ago he is a nice person i have problems with just the productions of the

01:28:41.820 books and some of the heretical kind of things that were twisted and turned and continuously

01:28:48.660 are. And now it's just throwing another wrench. Oh, I have a problem in all with all of those

01:28:55.760 things. Don't get me wrong. And there are members of that society, at least in the past. I don't

01:29:00.680 keep track of the membership roles, but I have significant personal grievance.

01:29:06.240 Mark's a nice guy. And I don't think he is intentionally

01:29:09.160 i i don't think he is intentionally devious or intentionally trying to act against the

01:29:16.040 ice here i wouldn't put that charge on him at all i do think some things are misguided

01:29:23.960 and i really wish that he was with us and and uh

01:29:31.400 part of part of what we're doing moving out true into the future and i think we would

01:29:35.240 would be better

01:29:37.480 I think his his efforts would be better served if he if he got on the team

01:29:45.320 um but yeah oh and one time

01:29:50.720 uh-oh I told this story already but it's just such a ridiculous story he was driving through

01:29:58.460 um he was driving through and he wanted to check out Odin's off way back you know closer to when

01:30:04.160 first got odin's off and so he met my wife and i at odin's off and he comes in he's like hey you

01:30:11.120 want to see my monkey we're very very perplexed at that proposition i mean on the chance there

01:30:22.080 was an actual monkey i think the only answer is yes with some kind of strange euphemism

01:30:28.560 the answer is no and should be followed by violence but no it turns out he was traveling

01:30:34.320 with an actual monkey and there was this little monkey in a cage that he was transporting for a

01:30:40.960 friend of his i guess and the monkey was time to feed him and he was not pleased with the car ride

01:30:46.080 but sure enough he rolled up and he had an actual monkey so uh yeah it was neither here nor there

01:30:53.760 but it was a thing got a couple of other um questions before we move on to part two

01:31:02.560 and you may think we've been doing this a minute but we really haven't

01:31:05.440 and part two is much longer than part one so get a snack get a beverage

01:31:12.880 because we're in for a little bit also planned snacks and beverages there's 92 chapters to a

01:31:20.720 Heal Saga, and we're going to divide that by four, so it is what it is. We may have some long nights

01:31:28.060 together in the month of December. So following on this question from last week, last week we

01:31:37.360 had a question about if a Christian could join the AFA, and this is a follow-up to that question.

01:31:44.820 Watching a different live right now, but wanted to clarify a question I had last week.

01:31:49.060 It wasn't about not being a committed Christian in questioning, but questioning when others keep saying that certain Christian observances are actually from ancestral practices.

01:32:02.400 Be back later, and if not, happy Thanksgiving.

01:32:06.100 Oops, too vague.

01:32:07.760 Do you welcome those who want to discover for themselves about Ausatru and those practices?

01:32:13.940 Having trouble phrasing this here?

01:32:17.140 Yeah, no, we get what you're saying.

01:32:19.060 um no if you're sincere as long as you're not lying to anybody come check it out I don't know

01:32:28.300 where you're located but what is the best is to come to one of our Hoffs that's why we that's

01:32:36.220 not why we have them but it's a benefit of us having them is that folks who are interested

01:32:41.800 can come and see what this is about and meet alsatruar and get a more visceral feel for what

01:32:52.560 we do um the question last week came about in terms of membership and no we would not want

01:33:02.880 you to be a member of our church if you are of a different religion i think that's common sense

01:33:08.480 But to attend and to see and to check things out and to look into it and discover whether it rings true to you, certainly we'd invite you to do that.

01:33:22.140 And I think that's we just want to be fair and open handed with everybody.

01:33:26.460 we'd love for all of our folk to come home to alsatru and we have no expectation that sight

01:33:34.380 unseen you just buy into completely flipping the paradigm that you've lived this far of your life

01:33:40.460 under um that's absolutely it it can happen instantaneously or it can be a long process

01:33:48.540 we respect that so if if you're somebody with sincere questions or sincerely wants to learn

01:33:53.500 And we'd love to have you come to one of our Hoffs or somebody locally could, you know, walk you through it or invite you to a moot or we can get that figured out.

01:34:01.980 But I hope that clarifies a little bit.

01:34:06.460 I want to add one thing about the lore that we just covered.

01:34:11.640 And just kind of going along with, as was stated, about Groa being a desir of vegetation, there certainly seems to be that there's a transcendency of Svipdag's parentage, his mother being Groa.

01:34:33.640 or you know and and i don't know if it's stated but we do know that groa is in another story

01:34:41.640 and she helps lord thor out so now we've got this situation where groa is not in or is in

01:34:50.520 the middle world she's in jotunheim and she helps um when lord thor gets a honing stone

01:35:01.160 uh cracked in his head she speaks spells over it but then she sees her husband who she thought was

01:35:07.800 dead that thor saves him and she stops and um the story leaves with with lord thor having the uh

01:35:16.680 the honing stones or the shard of stone in his head um and a lot of people believe that this

01:35:23.800 may lead to the reason why there is a nail often posted in god posts but uh her husband's name um

01:35:33.960 is uh arvindel and arvindel is mentioned as that when they cross the rivers um

01:35:45.320 they throw the uh his toe into the sky and we see this with the oz's eyes so this is a common

01:35:53.800 thing in which the the story states that the gods throw you know something into the sky and it

01:36:01.160 becomes the star uh we still don't know exactly what star is uh arvindil's toe most likely it's

01:36:09.320 it's probably cirrus um because it you know lending his name meaning like light of the east um

01:36:16.120 Um, so probably that, but it just kind of, again, places them in a world in between Jotun's and, uh, gods and men.

01:36:29.040 Um, and in this case, or at least by this time, Sweet Dog was definitely seen as, as more than simply a man.

01:36:37.380 um but Groa as well and uh Arundel or excuse me um Arvindel uh the reason why too is that's the

01:36:47.720 same name that J.R.R. Tolkien used for um the elf Arundel if anybody's familiar with with that um

01:36:58.260 or at least heard it and was like wait a minute that sounds very familiar that's where um some

01:37:04.240 of the more of pop culture that comes from but i just wanted to state that groa is um

01:37:15.360 elevated in in some way if if the term deece is is fitting and it may be um she is now elevated

01:37:23.360 and presides over so she passes goes through the why would she not be if we refer to great 0.76

01:37:31.680 grandma that passed as one of the dc right that's what i you know sweep dog going to her her um

01:37:41.760 well i'm only saying that in the sense that um people i apologize i said that as a question

01:37:49.200 yes i will stipulate that groa is a ds and one of the dcs right like the idea of saying

01:37:58.640 big d or little d is the question keep it clean in the chat room well one thing is is like the

01:38:07.600 way it was termed as ds of vegetation um what we do see about the d series that they preside over

01:38:15.680 their bloodlines it is so important that we consider who we marry and who we have children

01:38:21.360 with because our desir can turn off the faucet they they twist the fates they can turn off the

01:38:29.920 faucet they can turn it on um and they can give you the boon and they're kind of in an intermediaries

01:38:36.320 between the the the ancestors and humanity and sometimes even the gods so the idea that

01:38:45.120 she is mortal and she dies and then she is elevated through the root and placed in the

01:38:53.520 position as a ds over her line including starting with her son sweep that and now he is seeking

01:39:03.360 knowledge from his ds mother through the grave um fits 100 and i i was only bringing that up

01:39:12.880 just because the dees of vegetation um dees kind of often is thrown around too sometimes it's like

01:39:18.720 a god but they're really yeah the twisters of fate that's what i'm saying there's as far as

01:39:27.360 the elevation of mortals in the ascendancy

01:39:33.600 there is a spectrum there that doesn't

01:39:38.400 there's many stages of ascendancy betwixt god and man just because one is more than a mortal man

01:39:52.620 doesn't make them have some equivalency to the great gods of our race there is a position there

01:40:03.320 for elevated heroes and heroines and for honored and ascended ancestors that's

01:40:10.600 in between there in in that space and i think that the elevation of some of these that we hear in our

01:40:22.420 in our sagas and our lores i was in our sagas and our lore clearly are people who have ascended to

01:40:31.400 something more beyond the grave, but that are clearly not the Aesir, but have a relation to

01:40:38.520 them that is perhaps closer than ours is as mortals in Midgard during our lifetime.

01:40:46.160 So the other thing that we've got, well, we've got a couple other things.

01:41:01.360 Sierra wants to know what we are thankful for, the both of us.

01:41:07.160 Svon, what are you thankful for?

01:41:09.980 This is really funny.

01:41:11.420 me and my family and our neighbors who are also assembly members and live right down the street

01:41:22.120 from us. We go on night walks every night. And this was actually kind of something that was

01:41:27.180 instigated by my wife. And at first I was just like, oh, I don't know, but it's kind of turned

01:41:31.860 into a really good thing. And every night, you know, we walk, it takes about an hour or so,

01:41:37.100 and we walk a little over a mile with the kids and we each state three things that we are thankful

01:41:44.720 for. So, you know, as you go, you start to think about different things and it becomes, you become

01:41:51.280 pretty, you know, you're going to the nitty gritty details of your life. So the question here would

01:41:58.340 be very broad as opposed to, I think like, you know, I'm thankful for this specific client who

01:42:03.580 helped me out in this situation, but I am thankful that there is so much. I'm thankful that there's

01:42:15.620 the pause that we've taken to consider our thankfulness. I would encourage people to

01:42:21.180 do that more. So I know it sounds kind of corny, but I'm thankful for being thankful. And I mean

01:42:30.180 that in the sense that since we've been doing these walks, I have been scrutinizing my day

01:42:38.300 and trying to figure out what I'm thankful for, how I'm thankful for it. The deficits that are in

01:42:46.200 kind of, you know, wash away when you just really start to focus on the positive things that you

01:42:51.040 gained, small little things. And we do it every day. So, I mean, like my instinct initially is

01:42:59.860 is like to to give thanks for what i'm thankful for today because i didn't go on the walk i was on

01:43:05.780 i'm on on the uh podcast so um i got to i missed out on the on the thankfuls um but i am i'm

01:43:17.300 i think i right now i'm most thankful for the discerning mind to realize the things i have

01:43:23.620 the things i do not um and instead of focusing simply on the things i do not have um which some

01:43:30.500 could be good whether it's illness or or problems of a different nature um instead of focusing even

01:43:37.140 in the negative or the deficit um focusing on the positive you know having a you know a roof

01:43:43.540 over my head a loving wife loving children that are healthy and happy um

01:43:52.260 is it it's so important but there's too much to list um in one you know singular moment um

01:44:01.220 but i am thankful to have that discerning mind of walking through the world experiencing these

01:44:09.220 things and then tallying them up and actually saying them realizing them and um i would not

01:44:17.780 have had that if it wasn't for my wife's um instigation of these walks of thankfulness

01:44:24.100 is kind of what they've turned into um yeah there's far too much to count but i would

01:44:31.940 yeah i would say that most that's really cool um that's a neat thing that she did

01:44:40.180 uh yeah i don't know give give catherine a high five for me um

01:44:48.100 but she's off screen well good it's a good idea catherine i'm glad you came up with that um

01:44:56.260 I, it is humbling when the question gets asked.

01:45:09.860 I have more things in my life

01:45:23.460 than I would have ever dreamed

01:45:26.580 to be thankful for

01:45:27.820 it's hard because

01:45:37.820 I overthink questions

01:45:39.840 Sometimes people are like, oh, what are you thankful for?

01:45:42.080 Ah, this beer is delicious.

01:45:43.420 I'm thankful for it.

01:45:45.500 Sure.

01:45:46.980 And I am.

01:45:47.880 It really is delicious beer.

01:45:49.260 It was left by a guest at the last moot we had over here.

01:45:53.740 But this horn was gifted to me by a really good friend of mine, Daniel Young,

01:46:02.160 because Thor's Hoth was the first Hoth under my administration that we got.

01:46:08.060 It was the first Hoff to our gods that I could be the one to dedicate, and that was such an important moment in my life that they won this horn, and he gifted it to me.

01:46:26.480 The friends that I've made in the House of Truth focus on a personal level, I'm tremendously thankful for.

01:46:33.900 these are people that are my family that are everything to me and uh

01:46:41.900 dude on the other end of this actually both gentlemen on the other end of this the ones

01:46:46.060 you can see and the ones that we don't end up looking at to hear from on occasion very thankful

01:46:51.900 of these men they're genuinely some of my very closest friends and people that are all in on

01:46:58.380 making this happen and share in the daily joys and daily toil of of this work that we do um

01:47:08.540 the tremendous honor of being the all-seriously of the astro folk assembly

01:47:15.660 there's no way i could properly express how thankful i am for that

01:47:21.260 the fact that so many people who listen to this podcast

01:47:25.100 come up to me and you know tell me how much they enjoy it or how it meant something really

01:47:31.540 important to them in a moment in their life where they needed to hear something that we said

01:47:35.400 the blessings of our gods have poured out on me and my family in ways that

01:47:45.480 you know i can't properly acknowledge all of i'm extremely thankful for my lovely wife mandy

01:47:53.680 for my amazing daughter Aubrey. Mandy and I kind of, we keep it real. We embrace the truth as one

01:48:05.800 of our core values. But we were talking, you know, and a lot about kids. Like, man, what if our kid

01:48:16.020 was ugly? Or man, what if our kid was, you know, misbehaved? Or what if we, you know, some, 0.65

01:48:22.680 everybody likes their kids what if ours was lame no uh realistically

01:48:29.960 there's no such thing as perfection but i don't think that in any realistic scenario

01:48:35.800 we could come any closer than aubrey um she is fantastic she is absolutely amazing i'm

01:48:42.760 amazed by her every single day i'm extremely thankful for so much in my life and i couldn't

01:48:50.600 possibly cover all of it. So we got that. We've got two more questions before we'll go into the

01:48:59.460 other and longer of the two poems that we're going into tonight.

01:49:05.020 From Gauthier Trent East, question for both of you, and just another additional plug.

01:49:11.860 Trent's lovely wife, Madison, is responsible for making those amazing AFA calendars that are now

01:49:17.500 on sale at runestone.org. Get yours today. That said, question for both of you. I was

01:49:25.300 here to go with you and Wynton Svon. What is your favorite Thanksgiving dish? Svon,

01:49:29.800 go.

01:49:31.800 Ooh. Okay, this is going to sound funny, but it's stuffing. I have an interesting thing,

01:49:42.640 uh, even, uh, um, even a Mandela effect, if you will. Um, I, uh, when I came to the United States,

01:49:52.240 my first Thanksgiving dinner, we had, um, lamb skull or lamb's head. Um, my mother made it and,

01:50:01.580 um, but we had never really had Thanksgiving before. So I remember my, my friend, uh, neighbor

01:50:09.240 two houses down the young kid comes in sees the sheep head on the table and then like turns around

01:50:15.260 and immediately leaves um he was terrified but um i remember eating stover's stove top stove stop

01:50:26.520 stove top stuffing excuse me and um you know we were eating it out of the pot on the top of the

01:50:33.800 oven and we just couldn't believe that it was bread it was just or it's not just bread but it's

01:50:40.520 bread and um never had it and it would and and uh my father thought that was very very funny

01:50:47.780 um and so stuffing has always been like and i don't really eat at any time of year other than

01:50:56.000 thanksgiving and it's just it's so good but apparently stouffer's stovetop stuffing has

01:51:02.420 never existed um and i remember in my childhood the red box with the ball hockey nope it doesn't

01:51:10.900 exist it's actually it's a supposedly it's a mandela effect on the on that conspiracy

01:51:16.820 because stouffer's has never made dried goods it always makes frozen foods

01:51:22.340 but when i was a kid i remember seeing the box with the black circle that says stouffer's on it

01:51:27.940 nope uh actually it's made by craft which kills me because that's you know

01:51:35.420 yeah anyways i don't i remember driving to uh we were actually going to a national event

01:51:42.740 we were watching some video uh this guy is called y files and he did one on mandela effects and and

01:51:49.880 we're driving along and i'm like oh yeah and then they said the stovetop stuffing and i was

01:51:55.280 like shattered my reality for at least an hour. I was just like quietly driving and like

01:52:03.320 cursing everything. I had, I have such a clear memory of it. Um, and because not being part of

01:52:12.480 it and being, um, from Iceland and coming here and it was a hybrid Thanksgiving slash just

01:52:19.540 strange Icelandic food that my mom

01:52:22.040 was able to get

01:52:23.980 and

01:52:24.760 yeah

01:52:26.260 so

01:52:27.520 stuffing

01:52:30.160 no now you've got me on the whole like

01:52:37.480 Mandela effect of it

01:52:41.200 rabbit hole on it so

01:52:42.480 I'm not going to belabor you guys with that

01:52:45.120 Swan please tell me

01:52:47.180 that tomorrow you are serving some of 0.98

01:52:49.220 your children um lamb's head crotch super or whatever the like lamb's head delicacies of your

01:52:59.060 homeland no actually one of the things i'm intending to do is i want to butterfly a turkey

01:53:04.540 breast out and fill it with mashed potatoes and stuffing and green bean casserole and then roll

01:53:11.500 it up and into a roast and then cut it and serve it as a pinwheel so it's just like the whole meal

01:53:19.860 inside a turkey breast and then garnished with mashed potatoes and stuff

01:53:26.420 that sounds awesome i'm disappointed about the lack of of of lamb's head yeah you gotta eat the

01:53:32.340 lamb's head i know that when we move to sigurheim i know you're gonna be like you're you're gonna 0.95

01:53:39.540 have me cooking the weirdest crap you got to that's the delicacies of your homeland 0.80

01:53:45.780 i'm gonna have like hunkakut and you know like lamb's head and how carl and all the other like 0.98

01:53:52.100 strange things that you can just come over rotten shark that's gross um and you can keep the like 0.99

01:53:59.140 testicles that's not i'm not going to eat testicles well that's what that's one of those 0.92

01:54:04.100 things i'm i it's not what i do i think you would like because it's just condensed lamb and then 0.99

01:54:11.300 the other is um hard of the fish good hard of the fish good i think you would really like but

01:54:16.420 everyone hates it when i eat it what hard fish yeah yeah um my friends call it whale scabs and

01:54:24.420 it makes the whole house smell like cod but it is so good when you like dried fish with like

01:54:31.380 butter on top no i'm i'm down let's do that um so i don't like soggy bread um my

01:54:41.300 i don't have super exotic thanksgiving delicacies i really like just being simple i like gravy and

01:54:54.240 turkey and that can shaped uh cranberry cranberry cranberry sauce that looks like the can i've had

01:55:06.480 fancier kind that's way more gourmet but no i want mine to look like the can that it came in

01:55:14.720 it's got to that's how you know it's legit and mashed potatoes and gravy um

01:55:22.480 i mean growing up we always had uh round up a clown

01:55:29.120 i mean that might be delicious i don't know um so growing up we always had had uh succotash

01:55:35.840 which there's fancier versions my mom always just made frozen corn and frozen lima beans but it was

01:55:42.800 good um i'll eat fancy green beans where i'll cook up green beans with like uh the little slivered

01:55:50.640 almonds and the uh and bacon that's always good i'm not as fancy as some people are i've never

01:55:57.520 been the huge pumpkin pie guy like i will i will eat any dessert don't get me wrong but that's never

01:56:04.320 my pie of choice my pie of choice for thanksgiving's always been cherry which is not usually

01:56:09.360 the one on offer so that was kind of a special thing my my parents and grandparents made sure

01:56:15.440 i had um that's what i got uh we got one more i said before we're going to go into the next

01:56:26.800 deal is odin the same being as indra both mythologies describe them as king of the gods

01:56:34.320 um no and I don't think the I think the Vedic evolution of religiosity varies in different

01:56:49.920 ways than some of the more one-for-one European expressions I think Indra is often much more

01:56:58.620 similar to also Thor um there are depending on where you're at there are so many what the

01:57:08.400 the Supreme or the top of the food chain in the Vedic gods are it all depends on kind of where

01:57:14.160 you're at and what's what but no I don't think that Indra is the one that bears

01:57:20.580 most similarity to Odin uh at all I think Indra bears the most similarity to us of Thor

01:57:27.360 oh this this question i think i saw earlier and i i like to answer this too please i kind of know

01:57:36.300 where this is coming from um i made mention of like the the cramming of of lord odin and all

01:57:42.720 the gods but one of the distinct differences between the ostrich folk assembly and the other

01:57:48.400 groups that are kind of like i need to find the singular sky daddy um is that we talk about the

01:57:56.820 tripartite and the thrones and that each of the Aryan groups um have these thrones these thrones

01:58:03.960 of need and emphasis and the gods who are the gods fill these thrones um and for us to think

01:58:14.060 that there's this unilateral sense um when we could see that it's not even unilateral amongst

01:58:21.800 the nords where we have where you know in upsala where um lord thor is in the center of the

01:58:30.760 tripartite and on the highest altar and he is you know flanked by um the the holy fray and by lord

01:58:42.440 odin so we see that these these desires and the idea that the gods kind of move around but i will

01:58:49.080 tell you one thing that always seems to happen is that there is a sky father and an earth mother

01:58:55.480 and after they establish the structure of the world and of heaven they then create or i'm not

01:59:04.760 saying create but the substance of the three thrones or the tripartite and its division is

01:59:13.880 always something that happens so you know we see this with um in our stories with bor and with

01:59:22.040 bestla and um and then after them the tripartite forms we see this amongst the hindus with uh i

01:59:30.440 think is dios potter and uh or di's potter i don't know how it's said but yeah the heavenly father

01:59:36.920 or shining father and mother and then the tripartite happens and we have indra and agni

01:59:44.120 and uh varuna i believe um we see this amongst the slavs there is the the that creation point

01:59:52.920 between the heaven and the earth is stratified that the heaven and the earth split they're held

01:59:58.680 apart and then svawrog uh perun velez show up or we see it amongst the gauls with um teratatis

02:00:09.400 tyranis and asus and so on and so forth we even see it amongst the um the uh etruscans who are a

02:00:18.520 hybrid um peoples that you know again most of their genetic origins coming off the coast of

02:00:24.520 italy but they were so entwined with other arian groups um they had a tripartite so

02:00:33.640 the the bigger thing to think about is

02:00:38.040 these thrones have value amongst the the people and the gods fill those values they give unto the

02:00:46.520 people that which they need they they end up um fulfilling and those three thrones i always talk

02:00:55.800 about are the dynamic throne the static throne and the catalystic throne and it it varies depending

02:01:05.960 on the people some people have dynamicism as the height of their world view others have stasis

02:01:15.480 like the slavs svaurag sits above and watches all below and does not move and um velez and perun

02:01:27.400 are the dynamic or sorry yeah velez is dynamic and perun is catalystic so to go across and take

02:01:36.440 all of them and then just start to cram them in i don't think is the correct way to do it i also

02:01:41.160 don't think it's the true point of observation i think observation is about again observing

02:01:47.320 how the gods work and if we try to cram the gods outside of what we can clearly see

02:01:58.280 is where we start to get faulty um the biggest uh point to understand is that all of the stories of

02:02:06.440 all of the aryan branches are deeply cultural reflections of the way that gods work in our world

02:02:14.200 and certain the arian gods are arian gods and amongst those different branches

02:02:22.360 those gods have different emphasis because of the relationship that they have with their people

02:02:31.880 so all right last question we got and then we're going to get into round two here

02:02:36.440 so far be prepped and ready on this one croatian war master this might not be related to the poem

02:02:43.320 but our poetry and songs to the gods using the services of the house um not as often as they

02:02:51.320 should be it would be really cool if we had more song and poetry involved a lot of it doesn't exist

02:03:00.120 yet and we would you know we await a day when that does happen um there is a

02:03:10.200 chant song if you will that gets done at every odin bloat that i do which is the harry father

02:03:19.720 song that gets used in ritual a lot where i see song and poetry happen most often

02:03:27.480 is in sumble at the hoffs um we'll have people that will compose a poem or recite a poem

02:03:35.320 uh every now and again someone who will sing a song i also we have a song that gets sung in our uh

02:03:42.840 disabloat in at winter nights that happens so it does happen i would love to have more

02:03:50.040 of that happen it kind of needs to happen organically but yeah those two examples i

02:03:57.160 mentioned are mainstays and i'd love to see more of that develop as we go further

02:04:02.760 but with that it's fine if you would take us in to uh svip dags mall part

02:04:10.840 okay so at this point now we will see some again very common heroic or arian heroics um

02:04:27.320 mythos that are going to play out we see this again with um holy fray when he goes to send us

02:04:36.040 um uh skierner to um pledge for a meeting with the oust veneer gerder so these are

02:04:46.680 just common things as he's coming to the house he meets a um

02:04:58.520 guardian if you will and i i looked up the translation on his name and they generally

02:05:03.880 translated to all wise but the closest translation that i could find towards it is is mountain wise

02:05:11.720 um which uh would would lend um to this idea that that that fiols with might be a joten

02:05:23.000 and i wonder if this part of this story is actually a section of something lost in which

02:05:29.800 um the holy freya is captured by jotens and it is sweet dog who goes and transcends even

02:05:40.280 the mortal world to go and and free her um but but i mean we may not know um

02:05:49.560 so in in one before the house he beheld one coming to the home of the giant's high sweet dog speaks

02:06:00.280 what giant is here in front of the of the house and around him fires are flaming

02:06:06.840 this is very similar to skirner where he speaks to the the jotin on the hill and he says that

02:06:13.960 you're never going to get past the fire barrier and fjolsvith which again they say greatly wise but

02:06:22.760 um you know that i'm really looking to try to figure out where they found that or figured that

02:06:29.080 translation as i've always kind of fjol or fjol um as a derivative of fjol which means a mountain

02:06:39.000 um uh so i'd be i'm looking into that right now that one kind of threw me for a loop

02:06:46.280 uh and he says the jotun says what seekest thou here for what is thy search what friendless one

02:06:55.480 fame wouldst thou know by the ways so wet must thou wander hence for weakling no home hast thou

02:07:05.880 here so it's immediately aggressive you know what are you why are you here what are you looking for

02:07:12.680 you have no friends here you have no kin um in this place why would you travel the roads uh 0.59

02:07:21.160 um you know besmirched by by rain and wind to get here and such a tiny little weakling as yourself 0.83

02:07:30.920 you know you you don't even live here you don't you have no place to claim here

02:07:36.760 um sweep dog says what giant is here in front of the house to the wayfarer welcome denying

02:07:44.760 playing in again to the idea that our ancestors held great value in hospitality and it's clear

02:07:53.320 that fields is not hospitable at all um so he's kind of jibing at the fact that the house could

02:08:01.340 be uh that the insult could be levied against the house that it is um you know not good and

02:08:11.800 I also interesting thing about the translations on the Icelandics or the old, uh, North side is

02:08:18.640 that, uh, feels it is not mentioned. Um, but that it's, it's, uh, uh, common mother. And then there's,

02:08:28.360 he's also referred to as, uh, or like word of the mountain or word. I don't know that I'm going to,

02:08:36.600 this is like just now hitting me that these, these, uh, translations, cause we don't prep for

02:08:41.380 this show. So like, and now I'm like, Oh, I really need to look into that. Um,

02:08:46.520 so fuel fit speaks and he says, greetings, full fair, thou shalt never find. So hence

02:08:57.900 shalt thou get the home. Yes. What's in the hat or, you know, what's the quickest way to the

02:09:05.020 house you back the way you came um is basically what he's giving him um yeah you'll find no

02:09:12.000 greetings here and the only home that you have for thee is the one you left this morning

02:09:17.320 um and he's he continues he says fjord sviv am i and wise am i found and i think that's why one

02:09:28.080 of the translations they're saying like mighty wise um but i i think mountain wise again mountains

02:09:35.440 were definitely associated with the yachtins um and their time before the gods on midgard um

02:09:43.880 and he uh he says uh fjolsvith am i and wise am i found but miserly am i with meat

02:09:54.360 thou never shall enter within the house go forth like a wolf on thy way so

02:10:02.640 here he's he's talking about the the feast and that like you'll find no joy coming here um

02:10:12.660 and and the interesting thing about the translation of meat meat is an is an anglo-saxon

02:10:21.440 word that meant meal um it just meant to eat it didn't only speak of flesh of an animal um

02:10:30.160 but i just i find that those translations are very interesting when you get into some of those

02:10:35.840 details it was later on that english transformed to have uh meat mean flesh um and he says yeah

02:10:46.240 like make like a wolf and and just keep you know uh loping by uh and and of course is is referring

02:10:54.640 to the fact that he is a wolf or that he is this kind of unwanted consumer um and sweet dog speaks

02:11:02.320 he says in five few from the joy of their eyes will go forth when the sight of their loves they

02:11:12.000 seek full bright are the gates of the golden hall and a home shall i here enjoy so you know he is

02:11:23.040 he's motivated by love that's his ultimate uh quest um and so even though it's dark and even

02:11:32.080 though there's a menacing yachting at the front and there are flames ringing the house it is the

02:11:38.560 love of his heart and his desire that will allow him to supersede these these problems um

02:11:49.680 and then fjol svith speaks he says tell me now fellow what father thou hast and the kindred of

02:11:58.800 whom thou canst. Svipdag says, Vindkald am I, and Varkald's son, and Fjolkald is his father.

02:12:10.580 It's very interesting here, and most likely he's not revealing his true name, but in actuality he's

02:12:18.060 obfuscating his true name with the intention that, you know, you should never give your true name

02:12:24.980 to an adversary. And then that names have power. So, you know, he says, I am wind cold. And again,

02:12:34.380 this references Windkald or Windkaldr is that he just came from the road. So it's a travel name.

02:12:42.560 It's a, it's a name that emphasizes that he is traveling. I am wind cold. And Varkald is my

02:12:51.620 father and feel called is my is his father um and in seven um fuel sweet says now answer me this

02:13:02.980 uh oh sorry excuse me it's the other way around sweep dog says now answer me this feels with

02:13:09.620 the question i ask for now the truth would i know who is it that holds and has for his own

02:13:16.900 the rule over this hall so rich and fjolf says it's mangrove is she her mother bore her

02:13:29.620 to the son of svarthorin the black thorn um uh there's really nothing known of that name but

02:13:39.940 But to the son of Svartathorin, she is, she is it that holds and has her own, the rule of the hall so rich.

02:13:53.360 And Svipdag says, now answer me, Fjolsviv, the question I ask, for now the truth would I know, what call that, what call they the gate?

02:14:04.220 For among the gods never saw man so grim a sight.

02:14:09.940 So now they're talking about the great palisade or portcullis, I should say, that's like blocking the way into the courtyard or into the hall.

02:14:26.220 And it has a name.

02:14:29.440 And it's Thrymgyol, they call it. 0.99

02:14:35.160 T'was made by the three, the sons of Solblindi, and fast as a fetter, the fairer it holds, whoever shall lift the latch. 1.00

02:14:48.300 So this is an interesting part. 0.98

02:14:50.200 The name Thryngyul.

02:14:52.420 Thryngyul means like a direct translation would be more like a cacophonous wailing.

02:15:02.820 um and poetically this is most likely talking about like when you raise the gate and there's

02:15:10.520 this grinding uh screeching of metal on metal um just because of the sheer weight and size of it

02:15:19.780 so it is it is the the the cacophonous screeching um or you know or when it lands on the ground

02:15:29.620 perhaps it means you know that this is the kind of the same thing uh again those poetics are

02:15:35.620 interesting because the word is used in a lot of different ways um and they don't always have the

02:15:42.740 same kind of exact meaning because of the poetics but yes most likely it's so big that it slams

02:15:48.740 against the ground or it's so big that when it's pulled up it cries out in when it grinds and this

02:15:56.900 is another one it was made by the three sons of solblindi now solblindi um or sun blind is uh 0.87

02:16:09.380 name especially in consideration to their reactions to the sun so it was forged by dwarves 0.84

02:16:16.340 um and if anyone tries to lift the latch they will be um rooted in place as fast as a fetter 0.87

02:16:29.280 the fairer it holds whoever shall lift the latch so anyone trying any funny business

02:16:36.860 is going to get locked into place

02:16:38.960 i really uh like that especially for those who are fans of tolkien

02:16:45.120 um you can clearly see where he got a lot of his inspiration from um

02:16:52.440 so svip dog speaks and he says in 11 now answer me this feels the question i ask

02:17:02.220 For now the truth would I know 0.93

02:17:04.900 What call they the house

02:17:06.800 For no man beheld

02:17:08.240 Amongst the gods so grim a sight

02:17:10.900 Fjolsvid speaks and says

02:17:15.100 It's

02:17:17.520 Of old I made it 0.99

02:17:22.280 From the limbs of Lirbrimr 1.00

02:17:24.920 I braced it so strongly 0.99

02:17:27.920 That fast it shall stand

02:17:31.320 so long as the world shall last so i i have often wondered if uh layer brimner is some sort of

02:17:45.240 kenning for um the corpse of emir and that um because it's you know from the limbs of layer

02:17:55.000 premier and so i don't know because it it's not really utilized anywhere else but i'm of the

02:18:04.760 the farther that things go back to emir the farther things are the more archaic the more

02:18:11.800 primordial and so i think he's really trying to state this is um you know shaped from the the bones

02:18:22.760 and the the body of um emir and emir has a lot of different um

02:18:33.480 names like our yelmer and all and and all of those names have our meaning like shaping shaping

02:18:41.480 by clay or generally used when you're shaping with dirt and dust and and and brick or water

02:18:47.880 you know of the earth so um yeah i i you know uh

02:18:55.880 layer meaning like clay and brim is a um

02:19:02.920 one of the common usages of names for jotuns um

02:19:09.960 and oh so this one in the down in the translations here the he translates um

02:19:15.320 gastroknir as the end of the quest or the sorry the quest crusher which is like yeah the end of

02:19:26.820 the line the last place you'll ever see or what the final boss the final boss yes the end the

02:19:34.520 end where you you go no further from here that's pretty pretty metal um

02:19:41.360 but yeah and he does emphasize it because i've never seen such a terrible place so really the

02:19:50.120 the idea is here is sweep dog he's been blessed by his mother who is now a dc or you know she's

02:19:57.460 a powerful witch that can move outside or beyond um the coils of mortality and then he rides into

02:20:07.680 Jotunheim, and he goes before this terrible dark castle that's surrounded in flames, and there's

02:20:16.660 this guardsman waiting there. And you see this so much in other Aryan forms. It may be different 1.00

02:20:25.740 because, again, each Aryan branch really does focus on different things that they need.

02:20:32.840 um that's why the tripartite and and the the gods filling the tripartite is different um and it

02:20:41.640 doesn't lessen or cheapen the gods it's just that they're answering the prayers of their people so

02:20:48.500 we see the stories of heroes like this kind of repeating but sometimes you know they they will

02:20:55.660 win by cunning, or they will, um, they'll win by combat, like with the Green Knight, um,

02:21:03.820 um, in the Arthurian legends. So, but it's always kind of the same thing, is there is

02:21:12.160 this quest, there is a place, and then within that place, there is a woman, the love of a woman,

02:21:18.300 or the gifting of mead. We see this with Lord Oven and Gunlov. So, again, it's very, very common,

02:21:28.340 and the audience that's listening to the story is enticed because of the familiarity of the idea

02:21:41.200 these heroics um so sweep dog says in 13 now answer me this uh the question i ask for now

02:21:55.440 the truth i would know and remember that those repetitive lines that happen are for the um

02:22:02.880 the skull or the the the bard or the poet to remember where he is it's it's kind of like

02:22:10.000 a counting system um what call they the hounds that before the house so fierce and angry are

02:22:22.240 this is completely the same as when skinner goes to speak to gerda he speaks to the herdsmen and

02:22:31.440 he says like if you're not only are the fire is going to burn you up the hounds will rip you apart

02:22:36.800 So these, again, very common points of heroicism.

02:22:44.960 And so he speaks and he says in 14,

02:22:53.140 Givir

02:22:54.820 they call one

02:22:57.720 and Geri they call

02:22:59.880 the other

02:23:00.520 if now the truth thou wouldst

02:23:03.800 know great they are

02:23:05.940 and their might will grow

02:23:07.620 till the gods of death

02:23:09.820 are doomed

02:23:10.660 so some folks

02:23:12.920 try to kind of

02:23:15.820 if they see wolves

02:23:17.660 in different

02:23:19.800 stories they're all kind of

02:23:21.500 interconnected which i mean in a way they are through their power of mythos but um

02:23:28.220 he's basically staying like they will grow stronger and stronger and stronger

02:23:32.220 until the jotens are called to assault the gods um and uh you know i i've always found it

02:23:43.420 interesting give give is very close to gift or gift which means to give um but give kind of it

02:23:52.300 denotes more like a like when we say like gimme gimme gimme gimme it's a it's it's greedy and so

02:23:59.100 is gary gary is also to be greedy um so there and again that's just denoting to wolves and their

02:24:09.020 hunger our ancestors were um uh agrarian and they had um herds and nothing symbolizes

02:24:22.060 the the demon more than the wolf and that's uh another thing lending back to what you had said

02:24:28.460 as i go they one of the interesting things is that uh hell is free and is given stewardship over

02:24:36.380 the organization of the of the ancestors and how they move back and through the cosmos um

02:24:42.860 your uh jormungandr is fettered by himself which is a grand irony and then fenris who's brought

02:24:52.480 right into heaven has to be manually fettered with a great sacrifice by the gods so that i

02:25:00.020 find that interesting too when you were talking about it i was like yeah thinking about the tri

02:25:04.740 levels and how each one is um kind of given uh someone you know could say like hell is is fettered

02:25:13.380 by her place um but given great honors um and not really imprisoned and then it kind of goes up from

02:25:23.380 there um so in 15 sweep dog says now answer me feels with the question i ask for now the truth

02:25:38.020 would i know may no man hope the house to enter while the hungry hounds are sleeping

02:25:45.140 so uh he's he's probing right now to see if there's you know kind of any uh

02:25:54.820 weaknesses and and of course fjolsvith says no there's no weaknesses um fjolsvith speaks in

02:26:02.320 16 together they sleep not for so was it fixed when the guard to them was given one sleeps by

02:26:09.740 night the next by day so no man may ever enter and sweeper dog says now answer me feels fit the

02:26:19.580 question i asked for now the truth would i know is there no meat that men may give them and leap

02:26:27.380 within while they eat. Fjolzvid says in 18, two wing joints there be in Vidofnir's body.

02:26:40.020 If now the truth thou wouldst know, that alone is the meat that men may give them,

02:26:45.780 and leap within while they eat. So now we've got a weakness.

02:26:54.180 Um, and we, um, let me see here.

02:27:05.460 Yeah.

02:27:06.600 His wings or his, um, interesting.

02:27:13.820 Um, so he kind of finds the, the weakness.

02:27:19.760 And he

02:27:23.300 Goes forth and says

02:27:26.020 Now answer me this Fjolsvith

02:27:28.360 The question I ask for now

02:27:30.740 The truth I would know

02:27:31.760 What call they the tree that cast

02:27:34.840 Abroad its limbs over the land

02:27:36.980 Fjolsvith

02:27:39.020 Speaks and says

02:27:40.380 Mimamev

02:27:42.700 Is its name

02:27:44.000 And no man knows what roots

02:27:46.940 Beneath it runs

02:27:48.120 And few can guess what shall fell the tree, for fire nor iron shall fell it.

02:27:55.420 So this makes more sense that the name, because if you think back to Alvismal, each of the realms name components to cosmology differently.

02:28:09.840 and in this case here we talk about the tree that is in heaven that that cascades over all

02:28:18.120 um existence uh to the jotens they would they call it mimir's tree and that's because there's

02:28:26.900 one significant root that runs into jotunheim it is the receptacle of memory um erd porous forth

02:28:35.360 or log and time and the gods are again presiding over it in cosmic order and then it flows through

02:28:43.840 midgard and it works all of its many multifaceted processes and then it flows into mimir as well

02:28:51.540 and that is where lord othen placed his eye so that he could see all that has happened perhaps

02:28:56.560 if he had missed something um so it makes sense that they would call this mimir's tree but

02:29:02.480 It is Yggdrasil overhanging Jotunheim. And again, that's just the emphasis that Yggdrasil is the cosmological circulatory system.

02:29:19.460 It reaches in and it's, you know, nobody knows how deep the roots go and where they go fully save one, the one who has placed himself upon the tree.

02:29:32.480 Um, but that it's, it presides through all the worlds, it stretches in all places.

02:29:40.400 Um, and these three major roots are the ones that, you know, one goes down into, um, Nivelheim

02:29:47.300 and just beyond Helgard and, um, it draws up.

02:29:51.920 And so the ascendancy of the dead coming from the, the lower realm, the place that's kind

02:29:59.440 of outside of the jurisdiction of the gods or at least outside of it's it's always been there it's

02:30:06.240 the ancient world of nivelheim um is the perfect place to kind of set things that are it's outside

02:30:13.420 of the jurisdiction of like everything in a way it's a perfect safe zone and then with the root

02:30:20.360 drawing up it brings elements back up into the heavenly realm um but it still does spread into

02:30:30.840 jotunheim and i you know it's never stated but i would presume also vonaheim it is the matrix

02:30:37.640 of our reality something really important about and again it's not a tree

02:30:44.920 it's a thing that is the context for our existence

02:30:52.300 but it has roots in deeds in the past in things that are fed to it those roots and things that

02:31:04.820 are fed to it go throughout its veins all the way through to its leaves they feed how it flourishes

02:31:14.320 or how it doesn't flourish, whether it's stricken with blight

02:31:19.200 and it withers and rots, whether it's strong and healthy

02:31:24.340 and verdant and abundant.

02:31:29.120 The world tree being the context of our reality and our existence

02:31:35.820 illustrated through the tree imagery a lot to our ancestors

02:31:42.200 and illustrates much to us today what we put into the well affects the tree what we lay

02:31:52.580 into mimir's well through our deeds through our actions through our

02:31:59.480 nobility or lack thereof shapes our existence and how healthy or how malignant it might be 0.65

02:32:12.200 be. Every act of piety, every act of righteousness, every act of nobility we do, especially if done

02:32:24.020 consciously and with intent, nourishes that tree, nourishes Yigdrasil, nourishes our reality,

02:32:34.760 and makes it something more healthy, more vibrant, more beautiful, more healthy for those to come.

02:32:42.200 the idea of holiness was identical in the archaic past to the idea of health

02:32:50.360 those two words come back to the same root and the same starting point when we are made whole

02:32:59.560 when we are healthy we are most holy the idea of

02:33:04.520 this all that we do

02:33:08.880 should work together and function together.

02:33:13.160 The circulation of the tree,

02:33:14.800 the idea that leaves fall,

02:33:16.880 they fall to the base,

02:33:18.260 they go back into the well,

02:33:19.560 they nourish the tree,

02:33:20.820 the tree grows up,

02:33:23.220 and the present feeds the past,

02:33:28.500 becomes the present,

02:33:29.960 becomes our future,

02:33:31.060 is really an eloquent way of describing

02:33:35.320 that sacred concept of our existence.

02:33:39.140 Not just our existence in the material,

02:33:42.080 but in a very holy, in both senses of the word, context.

02:33:47.920 And I think it's really important to note here,

02:33:51.580 some of the meat of so much of these poems that we read,

02:33:55.700 And the story itself matters and is cool and useful and strengthens our faith in particular deities or in particular applications of our values.

02:34:09.180 but the picture it paints should affect the lens in which we view the world as we approach it

02:34:18.620 the lens in which we see one another the lens through which we see our gods the lens through

02:34:25.020 which we see ausitru and the future that we leave for our children i think it's worth noting here i

02:34:33.080 it seems kind of random when we mention Yggdrasil it's worth noting these things also as kind of a

02:34:41.960 side note is we have a a page break here between this and the next five stanzas i wanted to note

02:34:49.400 in case he disappears or may have other things to do um i say he i don't know uh tcg does the

02:35:01.240 AFA look down on or condemn at home practice once joined, such as my family and I's bloats

02:35:07.880 held on different dates. I don't know what kind of bloat are you and your family do,

02:35:16.320 so I can't say definitively, but no, as a general rule, of course not. We would love

02:35:23.360 to have at-home practice our gods getting worship is good them getting more worship is more good 1.00

02:35:33.940 them getting less worship is less good now assuming those blotar are good and coming from

02:35:43.160 a right place and devoted to our iser of course we don't look down on that we celebrate that

02:35:51.260 That's fantastic. That should be strengthened and in turn strengthen our public practice when you bring the hymenia that you've built from your home practice, you and your family, to our Hoffs.

02:36:08.700 You share that with the rest of us when we stand with you in ritual.

02:36:13.060 When you unite with us through doing home practice, we're all made better because of it.

02:36:18.920 so no we don't look down on that at all and i just wanted to make that clear

02:36:24.520 in case you know you may go on your way this evening i know it's getting late depending on

02:36:28.440 where you are um yeah that was a little bit more of an aside than it needed to be but i think it was

02:36:39.640 you know worth mentioning and these uh firestone parabolita salted caramel beverages that i'm

02:36:48.920 consuming are 9.2 so i waxed it i appreciate them they're really good and they were brought by

02:36:59.400 a relatively new member that came and joined us at our most recent dinner and i appreciate that so

02:37:06.520 So appreciate you, Tim.

02:37:09.000 Thank you.

02:37:10.340 Yeah, I think it's also worth noting that like for Yule,

02:37:14.660 almost the entirety of Yule except for Mother's Night is celebrate.

02:37:19.040 Like Mother's Night is generally when we get together

02:37:21.080 and we light the Yule log together and we unite in that light.

02:37:25.240 But the rest of Yule is generally done at home, you know.

02:37:30.200 So, it's even in our structuring of one of the biggest holy tithes.

02:37:39.780 It is, and it's a unique and a really special challenge that we have

02:37:46.440 to contemplate home practice versus Hoff practice.

02:37:52.000 Approaching this, and I don't know, TCG, I have no idea who you are,

02:37:56.440 your familiarity with us a true but until 2015 we didn't have a half everything was some version

02:38:07.160 of home practice maybe with guests maybe not but it's only relatively recently that we're able to

02:38:15.720 also practice in temples to our gods in our ancestors day in the sagas and the times that

02:38:23.720 we often read about in the lore aside from maybe seasonal gatherings or whatever so much of their

02:38:34.200 practice was done at home so no we don't look down on that or minimize it at all and to do this right

02:38:44.040 one of the things that i'm very proud of about also true that differentiates it from

02:38:50.280 some other religious practice that we may be more familiar with

02:38:54.520 it's not just something that you do on you know the one day a month that we have a holy

02:39:00.280 tide at the half it should be integrated into your family everybody takes a strange and deviant

02:39:10.520 sexual connotation to um the lay of rig it's not 0.61

02:39:20.600 it's not about sexuality it's about inviting the the the icier into your home into your marriage 0.87

02:39:30.840 into the relationship you have with your wife and into the very fabric of bringing your children 0.92

02:39:37.720 into the world and raising them up to adulthood is imbuing them with relationship through the

02:39:45.960 gift cycle with the iser so the fact that you do home practice we would never ask you to stop that

02:39:53.000 i just wanted you to be real sure on that i don't know if that's a point that needed to

02:39:56.200 be cleared up but if it did i wanted to make sure we did so i do think there is another

02:40:01.400 layer to this question though and that's the differentiation between

02:40:07.720 gothic-led practice and not gothic-led practice or gothic gothic gothic yes yeah just to not get

02:40:16.600 confused with gothic people and or the architecture and are both because their uh their lineage is

02:40:24.880 laid into the well of memir so that said no realistically the the thing that might be

02:40:34.180 confusing and this isn't to your question your question may be one and done but there may be

02:40:38.700 others listening um the ideal the best circumstance when we're all together as a community is yes we

02:40:48.280 want our gothar our priests performing the sacred rights for the community but that doesn't preempt

02:40:55.980 when in the absence of that you performing those rights in your home for your family

02:41:02.380 um i think that's a a confusion and i don't think it's um taken poorly i think it's because

02:41:10.460 of the evolution of our faith and where we're at we just recently had priests in a very formal

02:41:19.020 way or in a way where they're distributed across you know across midgard in as well as they are

02:41:26.540 and there's still places that are very far from our gothar the idea is it's good to maintain the

02:41:33.100 gift cycle with our gods you as an arian man arian woman should on your own engage in that

02:41:42.060 gift cycle when you're able when we do it as a community yes it's best done under the auspices

02:41:50.140 of our gothar because that's the right order of things and it's most potent but it doesn't negate

02:41:58.140 you doing that on your own at your at your house with your family and i think that

02:42:05.020 because one is optimal doesn't make the other one bad and i think that's our people are really

02:42:13.100 we struggle with nuance um when one thing is preferred people take that to me and everything

02:42:21.500 else is forbidden or bad or when man i like chocolate cake you mean you hate vanilla cake

02:42:28.540 no i love cake cake is delicious i prefer chocolate there's there's no reason to go

02:42:35.980 that route and i appreciate you bringing it up nick because i think it's a very relevant point

02:42:39.740 but no we don't look down on your home practice at all uh yeah solid fact matt loves cake he does

02:42:46.780 um but if you're going to give matt cake he prefers an ice cream cake

02:42:52.860 uh if cake is happening but any cake will do because it's delicious uh but no realistically

02:42:59.740 and with the the point of what you asked home practice is awesome you should do that as well

02:43:06.300 as public practice and as fawn mentioned so much of the yule celebration is done in the home with

02:43:13.500 primarily home practice but spawn what do you got well i was just going to add this too one

02:43:19.340 of the big differences between say um home or um non-gothic practices is the processes of gifting

02:43:32.620 versus um blessings received so oftentimes what you will see with um gothar is that they as a

02:43:43.580 representative of the folk in their entirety um with the authority that is given to them by the

02:43:50.140 outs of true folk assembly and its long initiatory traditions the the gothar will distribute or

02:43:57.980 first they will ask for the worthiness of blessing and then distribute blessing whereas

02:44:03.260 you'll find in a lot of uh like say home um you know gifting cycles and i even do it too it's kind

02:44:13.660 of funny like when i'm at the hof i feel that ability but when i'm at home i generally just

02:44:22.140 gift i i place the mead into the bowl and then i pour the bowl out after the um the bloat is done

02:44:32.540 um because again the the distributing of blessings can be uh different or and it's not

02:44:40.940 it's not that it's not done it's just that it's done differently under different circumstances

02:44:46.380 The Gothar are, again, taking upon themselves the mantle of being a representative of the people in a house that was built by the AFA or, you know, again, built in symbolic sense and sometimes quite literal sense in dedication to the gods, which are not around.

02:45:10.960 Uh, there's no like official places other than in the Ossetree Folk Assembly dedicated to the gods of the Germanic people. 0.87

02:45:22.300 And we have done that.

02:45:24.000 So when the Gothar are there in that capacity and authority, gaining the blessings from, um, all of that Orlog that has worked towards those achievements is a huge deal.

02:45:36.380 um whereas you know generally when i'm doing smaller blokes i just gift i gift uh the the

02:45:44.720 bowl of mead over um and uh you know once it's placed inside the flout bowl i don't really

02:45:52.080 um you know mess with that that's a gift to them so that i think there's one

02:45:58.000 little subtle difference between the two

02:46:00.080 um oh sorry i just realized i i am floating alone in space um okay so the next part here

02:46:17.540 that we're moving into is going to be really really interesting because um there's mentioning

02:46:23.380 in lore um that is uh you know not common um so sweep sweep dog says now answer me feels vid the

02:46:36.660 question i ask for now the truth would i know what grows from the seed of the tree so great

02:46:43.540 that fire nor iron shall fell it now this is very important these two stanzas are extremely important

02:46:51.380 within the large overall ethos of the church fuels with speaks he says women sick with child

02:47:01.860 shall seek its fruit to the flames to bear then out shall come what within was hid

02:47:09.780 and so is it mighty with men so there is an important reason why

02:47:17.540 the ausser true folk assembly sees the sees yggdrasil in its proper place that it was not

02:47:24.020 a mistake that snorri wasn't trying to make some allegoric you know gotcha moment no

02:47:31.380 bore lifts heaven and separates the sky from the earth and in doing so on the top of heaven's

02:47:41.700 mountains, there is a tree. And Ausgarder is there as well. But it is not, it's the entirety

02:47:50.240 of heaven. And the roots from heaven descend down into all the other worlds. Is it actually a tree?

02:47:56.600 We've already discussed that. No, it's, again, it's the circulatory system of our reality and

02:48:02.200 all realities. And most importantly, when the well of earth, which is in heaven, and again,

02:48:10.380 And the way things kind of work is that that which is above is hierarchically, you know, controlling or predecessing that which is below it.

02:48:22.200 So the gods give unto us and the tree gives unto us and thus mankind is made in the middling world.

02:48:32.420 And then our lives here then turn towards ancestors and, you know, governs their inner, well, in a way to they govern our interceding who's allowed in. 0.97

02:48:44.900 And then the root that is in the lower draws back up to the tree.

02:48:50.660 And every morning the dew that falls forth from the tree is new life.

02:48:55.180 and it is adjudicated at the well where the gods sit at their doom seats in heaven so that's one

02:49:04.720 of the big reasons why we emphasized our our clear and definitive differences towards cosmological

02:49:10.800 views like other groups like the norena society and we view that the idea that um you would take

02:49:17.340 this cosmological view and move all of the roots into the underworld and completely destroy

02:49:24.100 the cyclical nature of that symbology is uh i don't know if it's i mean sometimes i think it's

02:49:32.420 kind of asinine but other times i think it's again it's just a blatant disrespect towards

02:49:37.300 kind of uh the mysteries that are that are revealed for us to understand better things

02:49:43.940 uh you know i've heard all kinds of theories oh yeah snorty was a christian so the three roots

02:49:51.860 um are the tree is on its side because he wanted the the the faith of our true to be destroyed

02:50:01.420 i've heard some crazy stuff um but no the idea is is really really simple that the the strata of the

02:50:10.120 of the tree its roots descends from those who are living amongst it in cosmic order the gods

02:50:17.700 and the nornir and all that flows into it creates time creates fate and ultimately

02:50:27.840 the newborn of our children whether they are you know parts of or the souls of our ancestors drawn

02:50:35.820 up in the tree and either as these do the dew drops the gods make them desir make them alvar

02:50:43.520 or let them proceed through to join and give boon to their bloodlines it's all happens right there

02:50:51.400 at that convergence point and if you suddenly make all the roots of Yggdrasil at the bottom

02:50:57.340 one it greatly loses the purpose of what the the place beneath that that place far away

02:51:04.720 why what its mythological purpose is um but it also kind of again ruins

02:51:11.440 the ultimate cyclical nature of it all and it's all just simply because

02:51:17.180 i don't know like the axis mundi needs to be maintained but if we look like i was speaking

02:51:24.600 with the tripartites it's the same with the mountain or heavenly mountains or you know the

02:51:32.920 the tree all of the centering of the u of the world and the universe is different in every

02:51:38.760 aryan branch um but again we're not saying in literalism that's what they are it's it's uh

02:51:47.160 it's just that you know the nordic and germanic view of the center of the heavenly realm is is a

02:51:54.840 tree um some would say a mountain and those connection points between them are varied as

02:52:00.520 well we have the airman soul um and we have that understanding of the heavens being foisted and

02:52:07.000 and placed upon the joist that keeps heaven and the earth separate um and others would say oh

02:52:14.120 no it's the mountain or you know it's um um well generally it's usually just a mountain or a tree

02:52:22.200 um anyways so life that comes from yggdrasil that flows forward and drops into the well of urd and

02:52:32.680 manifests in our time and in our reality comes from the tree and the tree is so

02:52:38.920 vital to the movement of soul power of humanity um and with good reason and the gods are utilizing 0.52

02:52:47.080 this um as they refine us as they make us better um so here he says yes that when women are pregnant

02:52:59.240 they seek the the benefit of the tree because the tree is what bears forth

02:53:04.280 life for the folk as they go forward um and sweep dog says

02:53:10.680 um oh and also bear in mind too this is again he's seeing the cascadingness of the tree even in

02:53:19.320 jotunheim and in alvis mall it's the same igdarsil is mentioned um it is seen uh it is understood

02:53:28.520 it's not simply something far away in heaven but is also kind of again overlapping over all things

02:53:35.720 and its roots reach everywhere um and sweet dog says in 23 now answer me feels the question i ask

02:53:44.440 for now the truth would i know what is he on the highest bow that glitters all with gold

02:53:52.200 so now we're getting into um

02:53:54.760 um some lore uh and most people would know the lore that this uh cock that crows is

02:54:06.040 Gulenkambi which means golden comb like for a rooster and it's mentioned that Gulenkambi

02:54:13.240 crows out when um Yggdrasil shudders and when um when Loki is freed from his fetters

02:54:25.420 he goes and first thing he pulls to his might in his army are the cursed dead the ones that do not

02:54:34.220 cross over the bridge the ones who are on the shores of nastron and they're no longer human

02:54:39.580 they're vodka they're consuming each other and they're just mindless you know beasts of of

02:54:47.900 uh torment and turmoil and then he rides upwards and into the land of the jotnar and that's where 0.97

02:54:54.860 he amasses with them all of their armies and that's when the cock crows and wakes up the einherjar

02:55:03.500 um and we you know we know of the names of of golenkambi and um of the uh the the crow

02:55:16.060 in jotenheim that also crows but there is no name for the one in helgarth but this is really

02:55:22.860 interesting about that um the transference as this this um either there's a couple things the the poet

02:55:32.220 was um kind of placing the crows in each level for a purpose in mythos but did not know the name

02:55:43.980 or that this is the name um but it's based on where it is where it's transferred so

02:55:53.100 he says you know on the highest bow of of the heavenly tree what is the one that glitters with

02:55:58.940 gold and he says it's it's the tree serpent or the tree snake is his name and he shines like lightning

02:56:08.940 on mimamed's limbs and great is the trouble with which he grieves both cert and sinmura

02:56:19.340 or sinmaru is how it's pronounced um a couple of things about that so in the translations it says

02:56:31.100 Surtr, Sinmaru. And most people translate that to be Surt and Sinmora, thus aligning to the idea

02:56:46.420 that Sinmora is perhaps the wife of Surt. But it is, again, worth noting that that's not mentioned

02:56:54.260 in the Old Norse, but could possibly be an add-on to Surtr's name. Or, take it even further,

02:57:03.420 and I hate to play this kind of, but that Surtr is black, and that Sinmurr is the correct name.

02:57:12.300 But later on, we see that that's probably not the case. It is most likely Surtr.

02:57:17.520 um because now there's even harder things that sweep dog has to do in order to get into the

02:57:25.560 house he's already mentioned the wing joints of the bird and that bird isn't just any bird

02:57:30.980 it's the the uh the rooster that crows in heaven um and and you know uh

02:57:41.580 just so far unattainable and then it gets even worse

02:57:44.680 um so and he says also this is the other thing is that the the crow is kind of like a rooster does

02:57:54.280 is harrying um uh sorter and simora or possibly just sorter sinmore um what that truly means too

02:58:07.000 is again the presence of time when we think about in mythic mythos sense the the rooster the cock

02:58:15.800 that crows is a level of time so the desire for sir to burn things down is being staved off by

02:58:24.760 the presence of time that all things have to play out as they must so that's why it's as

02:58:31.480 great is the trouble with which he grieves both cert ensign mora um because they cannot rush

02:58:40.600 the timetable they wish or he cannot um and sweep dog speaks he says now answer me feels with the

02:58:48.840 question i asked for now the truth i would know what weapon can send with off near to seek the

02:58:55.000 house of hell below um what will kill the great you know rooster that that crows the the warden

02:59:07.480 of ragnarok and in this usage it's very similar to how we say like

02:59:13.720 go to hell or send them to hell um yes that is the road of death and hell was synonymous not only with

02:59:22.360 the the uh that has kind of you know slowly been brought into the the structure of the gods 0.97

02:59:31.720 um but also the place and also the very act of death so um how can i sell send this bird to hell

02:59:40.840 and um he says the only way you're going to do that well fjolfid speaks and he says

02:59:46.280 uh levatine is there that lopped with runes once made by the doors of death and in uh legion's

02:59:56.280 chest by sin more lies it and nine locks fasten it firm so it's just getting worse and worse

03:00:05.000 you need to kill feed them the the wing joints of the chicken but then you find out the chicken's 0.91

03:00:12.440 the chicken of heaven and then you got to kill it with a sword and that sword is locked away um 0.60

03:00:20.520 it's so yeah and it's the you know it's uh it's got an awesome name for a sword it's the

03:00:25.800 the wand of wounding um and um you know it's that runes are spoken by lopped which is loki

03:00:37.720 and again this is another emphasis i think you find people who try to shove everything into lord

03:00:42.520 odin like when it comes to heimdall and how how can heimdall teach humanity it's got to be lord

03:00:48.280 odin that there's something wrong it's misconnected it's it's not right and so then

03:00:53.480 they say oh well heimdall's really just lord odin and that's wrong and impious but here is another

03:01:02.600 perfect example locked loki knows the rooms so there was a transference of this knowledge

03:01:09.800 in the heavenly realms and here he you know places runes into this great great sword um

03:01:20.760 and uh you know in his chest in another kenning for for loki but um some have suggested that sin

03:01:32.200 mora might also be sigun and that there's this convergence between sorter and loki and sin mora

03:01:39.560 and sigun um i don't particularly know because even i'm i'm i'm suggesting that sinmaru might

03:01:48.920 actually be a uh another haiti or name for sorter himself and so that the sword lies within his own

03:01:57.400 chest this also may denote some story that we don't know in which the sword um that is a lot

03:02:06.920 of folks think that um the sword is the holy phrase sword and it may not be the case we don't

03:02:13.960 quite know but we do know now that you know that with sutran when he has this sword there may have

03:02:19.800 been more of like a build up to it being prepared to help defeat the gods in the end um sweep dog

03:02:31.560 speaks now answer me feels with answer i asked the truth would i know may a man come thence

03:02:40.280 who fither goes and tries the sword to take

03:02:43.480 and fuel fills with speaks so you can see here it's like what can i do to feed the dogs oh you're 0.85

03:02:52.240 gonna have to kill the rooster that wakes the einher you're up and what can i kill the rooster

03:02:57.700 with oh you're gonna have to get the sword that's you know got runes by loki and is held by suter 0.98

03:03:06.160 and it's like it just gets worse and worse and worse for sleep duck and then he he says get was

03:03:12.800 there any way that you know anyone can take it um and he says feels within 28 thence may he come

03:03:22.980 to thither goes and tries the sword to take if with him he carries what few can win to give

03:03:30.320 to the goddess of gold and

03:03:34.300 this really kind of circles back around um

03:03:41.560 some people think that this is a reference to sin motor the the wife of but again i'm i'm even

03:03:50.020 questioning that um but that this is that you must give the holy freya over in order to gain

03:04:00.400 the sword and this is a consistent um part of a lot of our stories is that um the goddess of gold

03:04:09.600 is consistently held up for ransom so it leads him full back circle and it kind of closes the

03:04:19.200 argument that he you know what can i do if i have to do this and i have to do this um but he presses

03:04:24.160 on he doesn't let it um dishearten him and he says in 29 well now answer me this feels the

03:04:31.920 question i ask for now the truth would i know what treasure is there that men may take to rejoice

03:04:38.720 the giant is pale um and so here the

03:04:46.320 that's interesting actually you know what that could lend

03:04:52.880 very much so to sinmora being the giantess

03:04:56.960 because he's saying what treasures can i give that would that would um leave her

03:05:05.440 with happiness and she would relinquish the sword of sirtr just very interesting the way

03:05:12.940 old norse is written it doesn't denote that they are two separate people so and sin mother um

03:05:24.060 fjolsvid says the sickle bright in thy wallet bear so this is a kenning for a feather

03:05:31.900 um take a feather from the rooster and place it within you know your your money pouch um

03:05:44.300 mid vif vif thofnir's feathers found to sinmora give it and then shall she grant

03:05:54.420 that the weapon by, by the B1. So this long kind of chutes and ladders situation. Um,

03:06:06.420 and, uh, Sweepdog speaks in 31. Now answer me, Fjolsvid, the question I ask, for now the truth

03:06:17.520 would I know? What call they the hall encompassed here with flickering magic flames? So he also

03:06:25.260 draws out this conversation to ultimately go right back to the start, which is what is the

03:06:33.600 name of the hall. And he says in 32, Lear it is called, and long it shall, on the tip of a spear

03:06:49.620 point tremble, of the noble house mankind has heard, but more has it never known. And I think

03:06:59.020 this one really is interesting with again that that crossover is this mortal realm

03:07:06.460 is this jotunheim um is sweep dog in the mortal realm or is this again alluding to perhaps

03:07:14.780 historical halls during the migration period or a historical hall um you know we don't quite know

03:07:21.660 and um in 33 uh sip dog says now answer me feels fit the question i ask for now the truth

03:07:32.780 would i know what one of the gods has made so great the hall i behold within

03:07:39.660 and he says uni and iri bari and yari var and veidrazil dori and ori deling and there was loki

03:08:00.460 the fear of the folk so really at this point other than um than uh delinger um and i would

03:08:11.500 actually argue that the reason why delinger was involved is because this hall is situated

03:08:17.300 right upon the barrier between jotunheim and the middle world and delinger is the presider over

03:08:25.020 that hall um but ultimately it leads to the fact of who truly built it is loki and most likely

03:08:36.620 the dwarves so he doesn't say the gods other than delinger um but again the dwarves have have have

03:08:48.540 worked their way up and loki was there and they formulate the house and and it resides

03:08:54.300 right on the threshold between midgarder and jotunheim and that threshold is dellinger's hall

03:09:05.180 whether or not he was truly a part of it is a different story but um you know nonetheless

03:09:12.380 feels this is speaking um kind of with a chiding tongue because the the names that he

03:09:19.980 says are not gods. They're not Ausir. They're Dvergar. They're Svartalfar. They're dark dwarves

03:09:31.940 and Loki. So then he says in 35, Svipdag speaks and says, now answer me, Fjolsvid, 0.97

03:09:43.940 the question I ask for now the truth would I know. What call they the mountain on which

03:09:48.740 the maid is lying so lovely

03:09:50.820 to see.

03:09:58.100 And

03:09:58.340 Fjolsvith speaks,

03:10:01.040 he says, it is

03:10:02.060 Lithjabjerg

03:10:04.140 is it, and long

03:10:06.780 shall it be, a joy

03:10:08.920 to the sick and to the sore,

03:10:11.460 for well shall grow 0.85

03:10:12.800 each woman who climbs it 1.00

03:10:14.600 through those sick full 0.96

03:10:16.660 long she has lain.

03:10:18.740 so this again is another allegoric sense like when they mentioned the hall and that the men

03:10:25.060 folk know it and now there is a healing mountain that um that the humans know of

03:10:36.260 that women can climb it um and this may be references to physical mountains um

03:10:43.940 Um, that our ancestors, you know, a long before the Nordic period, um, are kind of still surviving

03:10:52.520 in the stories, but they're just, they're no longer, it's no longer known. Um, but the healing

03:10:57.180 mountain is where she resides. Um, the life mountain and, um, sweet dog says now answer me

03:11:07.000 feels with the question I asked for now, the truth would I know what maidens are they that 0.99

03:11:12.380 at mengloth's knees are sitting so gladly together so what handmaidens does she have

03:11:20.060 and um these are not again the wife of sorter is not mentioned in anywhere else and the maidens of

03:11:26.620 of um freya even though mengal this kind of presented as not it's deep correlation is

03:11:35.660 clearly there but perhaps the writers weren't even really thinking of them being as the same

03:11:42.220 um but they are mentioned as having these these um handmaidens and uh it's the same way that we

03:11:51.500 we see the mentioning of holy frica with her handmaidens holy freya with in this story

03:11:59.980 particularly the holy handmaidens we see with ayer and raun the nine daughters and we see

03:12:07.420 with nyorder his nine daughters and again these are points of establishment of authority a point

03:12:16.620 of establishment of divinity it's a it's a continuous thing if they have these they are of

03:12:23.420 high renown so um lady frigga has her um you know handmaidens that are the austrian

03:12:35.100 or are the uh our senior and now this is the speaking of of mengloth's uh

03:12:42.300 um ladies-in-waiting so we have uh he's names them leaf which is

03:12:50.460 help and leaf thrasa which is the desire to help um fjodhvara call they the third um

03:13:00.140 So this is an interesting one, too, because, again, we see these, obviously, the au senor er is kind of mentioned here.

03:13:20.560 But then to our boda is very close to, like, anger boda.

03:13:25.740 remember though a-u-r means to shape to shape like in clay or to uh have like building hands

03:13:36.380 or building pieces so this you know means the one that's bid to create um and of course most

03:13:44.060 people might hear no like friv um and um all of that but i added it's the only one that really

03:13:52.940 sticks out to me um but yes blithe peaceful kindly the one desire to be kind or to be helpful um

03:14:05.340 are all of of their names and um sweep dog then speaks and says well now answer me feels fit

03:14:14.540 the question i ask for now the truth would i know

03:14:17.980 aid bring they to all who often give if i need be found thereof so i think ultimately what this is

03:14:27.340 is an overarching symbolic um story stating about the transcendence of a believer to being ascended

03:14:41.900 or being connected to specifically one of the gods uh the asenior house you know whichever

03:14:50.300 it is again this this kind of great attainment over all of these um huge obstacles

03:15:00.220 uh feels feels and says in 40 soon aid they all who offerings give on the holy altars high

03:15:09.500 and if danger they see for the sons of men then each from ill do they guard so much like with

03:15:17.100 otar and his blessing of the harg here that uh feels with is saying that if you place upon the

03:15:25.420 altar um to to mengel the to freya or and the handmaidens then enact upon um the will of their

03:15:36.860 god to give and to safe keep you this is exactly the same with the maidens of fensaler and frigga

03:15:44.860 so um again yes adorning the offerings upon the altars wins us boon through the intermediaries of

03:15:55.580 the gods um before we get moving further

03:16:06.860 As you may notice, the more we go through the Lord, linguistics matter to really, I don't know, to fully appreciate the Lord.

03:16:23.860 the names of all of the characters, especially, I mean, I argue that the names of the

03:16:33.300 greater known Aesir and Aesir are really important, but especially all these extra names

03:16:43.400 that you get of the different characters are extremely meaningful. The more you familiarize

03:16:51.400 yourself with the linguistics, the better you can digest

03:16:55.340 kind of the depths of the

03:16:59.360 meaning and a little bit of the beauty of the picture that's being painted

03:17:03.360 for you. I say that to say this.

03:17:07.840 Find people at Pimsleur.

03:17:12.560 We are much like

03:17:15.080 Gorilla Snot or other products I plug on this

03:17:19.480 program i am not receiving a uh a fee for advertising their uh their product but i tell

03:17:26.920 you guys about stuff that's cool i have tried really really hard a bunch of different times

03:17:35.000 to learn icelandic i mean i've tried probably five or six times over the last 23 24 years

03:17:45.800 and it never works out and i never feel like i'm making progress pimsleur is the first thing that

03:17:53.820 i've tried to wear i mean within the first three lessons i felt like i was getting something you

03:18:01.060 know i felt excited that wow i understand something i'm still working on it i'm not a

03:18:08.760 fluent Icelandic speaker, nor an Old Norse speaker, but by working through the Old Norse vocabulary

03:18:17.280 and working through Pimpsler's Icelandic, I'm on lesson 12 right now. I'm so like, I feel like a

03:18:26.940 kid. I'm excited. I'm learning something new. And then when I go back and I read these, especially

03:18:32.460 the bits of our lore, like on the Bellows site that we're looking at, or the site where we get

03:18:37.780 bellows translation reading on the side i'm like aha i know what that word means i know what that

03:18:44.100 little bit of um like vocabulary is knowing those things and having those touchstones

03:18:54.740 is much more helpful than you may think it might be and i say that as somebody who's been

03:18:59.460 also true and like full throttle also true involved with this for 24 years

03:19:10.340 it helps it helps a lot and it really opens up a lot of the depth and a lot of the

03:19:19.380 a lot of the depths and the depth and the beauty of the primary text in a way that you don't quite

03:19:28.340 get if you don't have that so i think it's really exciting i'm throwing the plug out there it's not

03:19:35.540 super expensive it's cool if you are interested pimsler is awesome and i'm really excited so far

03:19:46.020 and yeah i just figured i'd throw it out there anybody who seeks to get a deeper

03:19:50.900 understanding of this and you can see it with Witten Svahn when he brings up different points

03:19:58.060 of vocabulary and etymology on these things it really does add to the understanding of the

03:20:06.620 stories it's a whole it unlocks a whole different layer of it that you don't

03:20:14.520 you don't really get and you can't process if you don't have the fundamental vocabulary.

03:20:23.920 So every bit you learn on that helps.

03:20:26.520 And I've been kind of talking to you guys as we've been doing this.

03:20:30.160 So I just wanted to really plug that because it's been really cool.

03:20:34.700 And Svan, I sent you that password thing over on the side.

03:20:40.380 So you got it.

03:20:41.200 That's something that we are working on internally is beefing up our linguistics on that.

03:20:48.240 And it's just something I want to share with the audience because I'm really getting a lot of benefit out of it.

03:20:52.600 And I think that those of you that don't already have that would get that benefit as well.

03:21:06.040 So I should bring this up before we do it because I know we got like 10 stanzas left.

03:21:11.200 But a question came up, and because I opened the door of linguistics, I do think it has become relevant.

03:21:18.780 Heathen Man asks, hey Svan, did you ever look up that Elfdalion dialect that survives still in Sweden, that is said to be very close to Old Norse and still use runic script into near modern times?

03:21:39.520 and I remember way back when

03:21:42.080 when he first brought this to your attention

03:21:44.080 did you ever take a look at that

03:21:45.740 you're on the spot

03:21:48.200 yeah no I don't

03:21:50.500 I don't think I did

03:21:52.480 he's the man

03:21:54.580 he has forgotten your question

03:21:56.480 no and I

03:21:57.520 he has discarded your question

03:22:00.360 no I didn't spur

03:22:02.140 the question

03:22:02.820 and I wonder

03:22:06.340 if it was because something I was searching

03:22:08.260 that didn't

03:22:09.520 equate I wanted to see yeah I'll tell you this I will remind spawn continuously until he digs

03:22:19.940 into it because I think it's kind of interesting and I'm curious where it takes him so we will

03:22:24.440 remember and see if see if he can do some digging for you before next episode okay so wait elf

03:22:33.040 dalen is the dale of the elves um but yeah it was a a tiny province but as far as like

03:22:46.640 the language goes and maybe i don't know if i was spelling it wrong maybe

03:22:50.880 that was the reason why i couldn't find it but um i have it right here and i'll be able to

03:22:59.600 kind of like look this up but yeah the um the these these folks in sweden um and its classification

03:23:10.320 of it as it's kind of a combination of nordic and eastern germanic which is really interesting to me

03:23:16.800 spawn will take a linguistic journey into the valley of the elves and he will return with elven

03:23:23.280 wisdom for us on our next i will be i will be alfred i will be counseled by the elves

03:23:31.360 see see this is what you folks would understand if you took the linguistics

03:23:36.000 just bring back some lombus bread yeah i'm i will be alfred i'll be counseled by them

03:23:45.840 no but really and truly i'll remind him on that because it's a cool thing and

03:23:49.440 and i have also not looked at it so we'll try to do that yeah and i have it i have the um

03:23:55.360 the page locked in now um um okay so uh foster kennel i will get to you here in just a second

03:24:11.520 but we got 10 more stanzas we're gonna hit and then i promise i will get to your question

03:24:16.320 go ahead yeah just to you know bear in mind this whole kind of circular uh point of the you know

03:24:25.600 the the rooster that must be slain must be slain with the sword the sword that

03:24:30.800 has runes carved in it by loki and is given to um

03:24:36.560 Surtr and his wife, and that the only way to kind of release the sword is to

03:24:47.080 woo her over. And again, is this the same sword of Lord Frey, or is Lord Frey's sword a supplement

03:24:56.460 for this sword these are it's it's all really super uh i don't know like it's like really

03:25:05.120 not common lore knowledge in this poem um i mean hell i was even thrown up with the whole

03:25:14.220 uh mess mentioning of sorter's wife just because i had always taken that as just an addition title

03:25:23.260 and just totally threw me off so i'm learning stuff too as we go this is amazing um so in 41

03:25:33.180 um sweet dog says now answer me feels the question i ask for now the truth would i know

03:25:39.900 lives there the man who in men glows arms so fair may seek to sleep and feels fit says no man

03:25:48.860 there is who is in mengloth's arms so fair may seek to sleep save sweep dog alone for the sun

03:25:58.700 bright maid is destined his bride to be and at this point it's like wait a minute you know

03:26:07.180 what did you say because the whole time sweep dog has been under the heighty wind cold

03:26:14.860 wind calder and he's like in 43 he's like well fling open the gates make the gateway wide here

03:26:25.480 mayest thou svipdag see it is me hence get thee to find if gladness soon mengloth to me will give

03:26:34.240 and fjolsvith speaks and says herkin mengloth a man is come go thou to the guest to see the hounds

03:26:44.720 are fawning the house bursts open sweep dog me thinks is here or is there mengaloth speaks

03:26:54.400 on the gallows high shall hungry ravens soon thine eyes pluck out if thou liest in saying

03:27:02.640 that here at last the hero is come to my hall

03:27:08.480 so one i think that's that's an awesome verse in and of itself but the whole point is at this

03:27:14.560 point no no i'm not vin calder i'm actually sweep that and if i am fated to be and you are to move

03:27:21.440 out of the way then all of the crazy things that you have just said don't apply because i am the

03:27:27.120 one fated and um and then men glove in fitting uh fashion that is often accompanied with um the holy

03:27:37.680 freya she is uh you know plays out a dreadful threat that you know you will be your eyes will

03:27:45.200 be plucked out on a gala gallo if um if you're lying and you're telling me that this this man is

03:27:51.360 sweep dog so that i guess is more directed towards um uh fuels uh fuels uh mengelow mengelow speaks

03:28:03.520 in 46 whence comest thou hither how came's thou here what name do thy kinsmen call thee

03:28:13.440 thy race and thy name as a sign must i know that thy bride i am destined to be

03:28:22.320 and he says sweep dog am i and soul be art son thence came i by the wind cold ways

03:28:32.320 with the words of earth shall no man war though unearned her gifts be given

03:28:41.280 so here you know he um he states that he is the son of sun bright um biart or bert in old english

03:28:52.960 and of course soul is sun so he is the sun sun bright sun and um i've often wondered too if

03:29:01.600 that again is another um delegation towards delinger the shining one um but he comes by

03:29:09.120 the cold ways he's traveled on the the the north and and desolate and has been blessed by the fates

03:29:19.600 that um you know if if anyone comes towards him um in war as stated it's not faded he he will

03:29:30.640 always kind of preside over and win and mengaloth says in 48 well welcome thou art for long have i

03:29:39.600 waited the welcoming kiss shalt thou win for two who love is long for meeting the greatest gladness

03:29:48.160 of all long have i sat on leave a bear here awaiting thee day by day and now i have what

03:29:57.680 i ever hoped for here thou art come to my hall alike we yearned i longed for thee

03:30:06.240 and thou for my love has longed but now henceforth together we know our lives to end

03:30:14.000 we we shall live so our lives to the end we shall live so again this part is really

03:30:25.760 the audience the folks here the warriors that are listening to this poem that you know the sweet

03:30:34.000 is fated to be with her and he attains the love but again from a more and a higher spiritual

03:30:40.720 sense that yes this is most likely sweep dog ascending to the holy freya and um i've always

03:30:50.960 kind of taken it that sweep dog ascends that there is perhaps the story of the capture of of of freya

03:30:59.040 and living in jotunheim sweep dog releases her she goes and finds his lineage as otar and then

03:31:07.280 takes him above as other and then he leaves or disappears um as the kind of track of the story but

03:31:19.120 all right well i think in relatively short amount of time we have been able to cover both of these

03:31:31.120 In one week from today, we begin the epic journey that is the saga of A.L. Scalagrimson.

03:31:47.440 And that's exciting. It's going to be a lot.

03:31:52.920 be looking to cover

03:31:55.840 20 plus

03:31:59.960 chapters per week

03:32:01.540 but we're going to do it

03:32:03.100 we're going to make it happen

03:32:04.260 put it like this

03:32:06.860 the PDF I have is

03:32:08.360 195 pages

03:32:10.180 so that's about

03:32:12.180 50 pages of

03:32:14.520 8.5 by 11 per night

03:32:16.900 Svon's going to rip through it

03:32:20.980 and it's going to be fantastic.

03:32:24.620 We're going to spend a substantial portion

03:32:27.200 of December with you going through it.

03:32:30.560 It's really cool.

03:32:31.700 Those of you who have read it know that it's awesome

03:32:34.140 and are excited about it.

03:32:35.660 If you have not read it, you are in for a treat

03:32:38.140 because it is a thrilling read.

03:32:44.380 And one of the things that was really profound to me,

03:32:48.940 it's cool it's about a person who lived and existed it's really easy to write fiction about

03:32:58.580 someone who's a product of your imagination you can put them in whatever circumstances you want

03:33:04.540 reading about a person who lived and existed and their life be that full of adventure is really

03:33:14.860 something special. So, to the last question we have, from Foster Kinnell, you need to have an

03:33:27.540 interview with Jason Cohn and our white well-being community, which is international and fighting

03:33:35.920 against anti-whiteism and the attack on Western kind. Blessings. So, three years ago, I actually

03:33:43.460 was on um the no white guilt broadcast with uh jason and that was a cool experience um

03:33:54.580 we're familiar with as a matter of fact he is the one who found us our lender for new york's

03:34:02.420 and new york's off is the half that we're currently paying off it's our most recent

03:34:07.220 hoff and through the connections that jason provided us with that's how we got that set up

03:34:15.540 so that's been very advantageous we're very aware of the no white guilt

03:34:23.060 movement and i appreciate the work that y'all are doing to

03:34:29.780 advocate for our folk i think that's always welcome

03:34:33.220 it's fun thank you so much for reading and taking us through the lore as you as you always do um

03:34:45.860 i i learn stuff too every time we do it it's yeah this is

03:34:51.380 things we're thankful for i'm thankful for the opportunity to go back through these

03:34:58.580 um pieces of our lore with you it's it's really important that we all go through our lore but

03:35:08.220 it's important that we do it at different seasons in our lives and when you do it with different

03:35:13.920 people you pick up on things differently than you do when you're just by yourself you see

03:35:21.160 you get to hear their reactions through the lens that they bring to the table

03:35:25.720 And it really adds a lot of depth.

03:35:29.000 So I'd encourage everybody to do that.

03:35:31.680 Thank you guys for being with us.

03:35:35.580 I'd like to, as a final kind of note this evening,

03:35:39.640 I am thankful for the fans of Victory Never Sleeps.

03:35:43.860 I'm thankful for our amazing guests that we have on the program.

03:35:47.820 As always, I am beyond thankful for the blessings of the Aesir in my life, in the Astro Folk Assembly, and bringing us all together for these evenings that we share.

03:36:03.900 And I would encourage everybody tomorrow to feast, enjoy time with your family and your friends, and really take the day to appreciate all of the blessings in your life and to be thankful.

03:36:25.680 and i mean that on a couple levels i would encourage everyone to give prayer and thanksgiving

03:36:35.260 to our holy isere that have done so much to bless us starting from our very existence

03:36:45.440 and carrying us through our lives do that if nothing else but also on top of that

03:36:55.220 Let the people in your life who have blessed you and given you gifts know that you appreciate it.

03:37:04.140 Spend tomorrow if you're able.

03:37:06.540 And I don't care where you live in the world.

03:37:08.300 I know it's an American secular holiday.

03:37:11.760 But it's a really nice opportunity to take stock of the things that you're appreciative for.

03:37:19.960 And to take a moment to recognize that.

03:37:24.660 to say thanks to those who you can thank.

03:37:29.820 And what's more on top of that,

03:37:34.080 tell the people, okay,

03:37:35.780 tell the people that exist in the world today in Midgard,

03:37:41.420 give them a call or a text and tell them thank you.

03:37:45.800 And to those that have passed beyond the veil,

03:37:49.320 take a moment at your altar,

03:37:52.760 thank them as well.

03:37:54.660 And really, and I'm saying this as much to you guys as I am to myself, spend tomorrow being thankful for all of your blessings because all of us are far more blessed than often we realize.

03:38:10.820 So with a heart full of appreciation for my blessings, thank you guys for spending the evening with us.

03:38:22.300 Thank you, Svon, for joining us once again and for being one of my very best friends.

03:38:29.080 I love you.

03:38:29.620 I appreciate you.

03:38:31.580 And until next time, be thankful, bone up on your 900s Norwegian, Icelandic, and English history and get ready for an exciting ride.

03:38:52.300 Till then, hail the Iseer, hail the folk, hail the AFA, and remember, victory never sleeps.

03:39:06.040 Good night, everyone.

03:39:22.300 We'll be right back.

03:39:52.300 Thank you.

03:40:22.300 Thank you.

03:40:52.300 Thank you.

03:41:22.300 Thank you.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - November 28, 2024

11⧸27⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 125 - Svipdagsmál： Grógaldr & Fjölsvinnsmál

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