Asatru Folk Assembly - November 05, 2026


11⧸4⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 226 - Prose Edda: Skáldskaparmál, Part 8

Are there Atheists in the Lore? #afa #asatru #ásatrú #asatrufolkassembly

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00:03:00.000 Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's edition of Victory Never Sleeps.
00:03:11.360 It's good to be here this evening with you guys.
00:03:14.520 Tonight, we continue with our study of the Scalds-Gappermal.
00:03:22.060 Last time we were with you on this topic, we mixed things up a little bit and answered
00:03:28.140 and questions up front.
00:03:30.380 I think we may do the same tonight.
00:03:31.960 It seemed to work out pretty well.
00:03:35.780 We want to hit the piece of lore that we are discussing,
00:03:39.400 but we also, the heart and soul of this program
00:03:42.940 has always been question and answer.
00:03:45.200 And we'd like to have lively interaction
00:03:50.080 with our live audience and answer questions.
00:03:54.020 So we try to make sure to prioritize those.
00:03:56.540 can send in questions whenever you like at bns at runestone.org or if you're watching this live
00:04:04.860 go ahead and ask them and we'll get to those as well top of the show things it is november now
00:04:15.580 and we are gearing up to celebrate ein heriabloat
00:04:19.180 come one come all we want to see you at Sigurheim for I'm here you were it's going to be November
00:04:28.080 the 13th through the 15th looking forward to that we're doing a different um trying something new
00:04:39.660 and having that be the the showcase event at Sigurheim this year should be very nice it's
00:04:45.080 beautiful around here um it'd be nice weather for those who wish to camp for those who wish to you
00:04:51.720 know just enjoy this beautiful part of the state of tennessee without the summer heat that has been
00:05:00.280 an issue in the past so we're trying it in november this year to see how that is for folks
00:05:06.600 very excited to have you guys uh out here um nick and i will continue preparing for it i know that
00:05:13.240 That Whitten Daniel Young has been putting in a lot of effort on organizing and getting the events set up.
00:05:19.460 So I am excited and looking forward to seeing all of you guys next week as we celebrate that. 0.73
00:05:27.780 So come on out. We'd love to see you. We'd love to show off the beautiful property that one day will be the home of Tiershoff and the AFA Capitol.
00:05:37.100 So there is that.
00:05:38.760 Other top-of-the-show things to talk about.
00:05:43.140 You guys are generous. Appreciate your generosity.
00:05:46.240 Stephen in Japan donated $20 towards paying off Frazehoff.
00:05:49.900 Thank you, Stephen.
00:05:51.780 How are we looking on that payoff of Frazehoff, Nick?
00:05:56.700 Cool. We are 51.3% of the way to our goal, which is awesome,
00:06:03.060 especially considering we only dedicated that off on the 6th of December 2025.
00:06:08.760 you guys have been and continue to be extremely generous and we're appreciative so that's how far
00:06:13.720 we have to go on that that comes out to about 81 per member would pay that off today as you know
00:06:21.000 kind of a figure to chunk it up um jeffrey in texas donated ten dollars towards the neurotop
00:06:28.040 restoration that's going great you guys have been real generous to that we are um
00:06:33.560 I cannot see the percentage that we are there, but I think we're getting close to 50%.
00:06:40.720 It's easy math, 47%. 0.99
00:06:42.500 That's true. It is the easiest possible math. I will accept being shamed by our producer on that.
00:06:50.760 No, so something has changed on that. Looking at it, the restoration people there have been
00:06:56.060 able to clean it up really nice. We dropped the needed amount down to about 10,000.
00:07:03.560 not about exactly 10,000, and we're almost halfway towards that goal, so thank you, guys.
00:07:09.960 Thank you, Jeffrey, for your donations. Also, thank you, Stephen, for your donations.
00:07:14.360 Angela donated $25 towards the Nortsoff restoration. Thank you, Angela, and Gilbert
00:07:20.840 donated $150 towards that restoration. Thank you, Gilbert. So many of you guys are regular donors
00:07:28.680 to the program your generosity is an example to us all it is deeply appreciated uh and also
00:07:37.160 angela donated twenty dollars or twenty five dollars towards the cigarette pavilion now
00:07:43.000 our payment processor lost early in the year we have not been able to get that where we needed it
00:07:47.640 in time for i'm harry bloke but we are planning on making some progress on that relatively quickly
00:07:54.040 we have raised one-third of that goal and uh i think that's like 20 20 20 dollars per member
00:08:04.680 would get us there so thank you guys who donated that and any of our projects if you're interested
00:08:11.240 in donating runestone.org donate and as i said really appreciate you um
00:08:24.040 That is top of the show stuff. So you can follow along when we get to the reading portions. We will be at velospow.org. That's where we're reading from tonight. And we are reading from the poem, Scald Scappermell.
00:08:42.580 That is going to be, I think we're going to start with Chapter 34, Solar Ekinnings or the Sun.
00:08:53.320 That said, I have a couple of questions tonight.
00:09:00.500 So first one's from Tyler. It was emailed to vns at roomstone.org.
00:09:06.660 Hey there, question for the show tonight.
00:09:08.580 One of the most common ideas people have, often from TV shows, is that our ancestors believed that in order to go to Valhalla, you had to die with a weapon in your hand, and otherwise you would be doomed to an unpleasant afterlife in hell.
00:09:23.420 I gather this is not a good synopsis of the beliefs of the AFA, but is there any kernel of truth to this idea?
00:09:30.980 If not, do you have any ideas where this idea comes from?
00:09:34.140 Are there any particular ways to guarantee a more favorable afterlife for yourself? Thanks. It's fun. I'm going to take first crack at that. You are muted.
00:09:46.140 good gracious all right there we go um yeah i'm gonna tackle the last part first where did it
00:09:57.000 come from um a lot of these misconceptions can ultimately i know we want to blame modern tv
00:10:04.120 shows but a lot of these misconceptions actually come from the romantic period in which there is
00:10:10.600 a revival of heroicism focused on the Germanic or the Nordic. And in that, they make the
00:10:21.600 conclusion that our ancestors looked at the world that if you died in any other way other than
00:10:30.520 battle you were doomed to a life of drudgery dreariness in the afterlife um or what have you
00:10:41.240 and i think that that had its purpose in trying to invigorate people to look at their ancestors
00:10:50.360 and say to themselves well you know if they were so clear cut about achieving the heroic
00:10:57.080 We should be too. And that is where a lot of those misconceptions come from.
00:11:02.900 The other is the writers of the Ada and the Gestodonorum and other effects of, say, afterlife burials and other things.
00:11:20.620 they may have been looking at them specifically from an angle that was framed by some of their
00:11:32.180 worldview at the time. However, if you look into each of them, you begin to see a pattern that's
00:11:41.320 laying behind perhaps their own issued um opinions and what we end up finding is is that um the soul
00:11:53.880 moves on through into other realms based on not just the form of death but also too
00:12:06.360 in the way in which you lived your life that you were uh it wasn't like you were going to
00:12:13.880 have to stand before the gods and have your heart weighed against a horn of meat or something like
00:12:19.640 that um instead as you lived your life you were observed you were watched you were you were
00:12:27.880 judged from the judgment seats the doom seats of the gods they uh look upon the allotted
00:12:35.400 life that you were given by the nornir and that there are many things that can affect your life
00:12:41.720 um in the guild beginning it's mentioned as evil nornir um and again that term meaning fate spinner
00:12:50.420 a witch or one powerful enough to change one's fate implies that you know the the the nornir
00:12:58.980 the three allot your life and then other fate spinners other people who or beings that have the
00:13:06.900 ability to shift your fate can turn your life and you too can also turn your life based on your
00:13:15.380 actions um but you are being watched you are being taken note of and then if you rise up
00:13:25.940 to i'm sorry if i'm getting any background noise i got jets uh flying overhead um if you are um
00:13:35.940 deemed uh honorable you are noted in that sense and that you could be chosen and so this is where
00:13:47.140 i really really kind of i don't know why people don't ever emphasize the word val v-a-l doesn't
00:13:55.460 mean slain only slain is the translation that everyone falls to but it also means
00:14:03.620 to be chosen so or to be selected or to be uh kind of framed out of the rest of the group
00:14:14.980 and that's where slain comes in in relation to battles but it does apply elsewhere so the val
00:14:22.820 father is the choosing father val hall is not the hall of the slain it's the hall of the chosen
00:14:30.900 and he is the one doing that choosing and it goes even further because the valkyrie is the carrier
00:14:38.420 of the chosen one and so if you're standing in a uh we use this analogy a lot if you're standing in
00:14:45.860 a foxhole and you're cowering and and clearly scared but you get killed in battle this does not
00:14:55.940 immediately embark your soul it is the one who is that moves forward who stands beyond their
00:15:03.140 own mortal coil and shows bravery and victory and places others and the victory of the battle over
00:15:11.380 so i think that hyper extends your ability to be noticed and thus be chosen but when you go into
00:15:22.260 other realms where it's dying at sea or dying of old age or sickness um we naturally paint hell as
00:15:35.460 a place associated with death and then that also gets compounded with negativity because
00:15:42.980 christianity stole the word and apply it to their afterlife which is gehenna
00:15:53.220 but if you wash and push a lot of that away what you end up finding is is that all of the
00:15:59.220 associations of death work in what mythos does in stories her hell is given charge over a domicile
00:16:11.220 that protects the souls of of those who carry on the divine breath and ultimately
00:16:19.780 the gods themselves as if this is uh you know understood uh when lord odin um wants to determine
00:16:29.860 whether or not his son is passing he goes directly to one place as if to say i know that if
00:16:38.260 If the God's doom is death, they will come here to this encapsulated place.
00:16:47.660 So, the imagery of mythos works in that way.
00:16:53.840 Cold, as in when people die, their bodies get cold.
00:16:59.520 Dark, the ground or the body itself coagulating blood on the back.
00:17:07.140 There is many things that are written. Her knife is famine and her fork is hunger. These are calamities that befall the folk outside of battle. And it is very spooky. It is very dark.
00:17:24.980 And so people have been taught to yearn for this afterlife of the clouds and the gates and sitting at the feet of this bright, androgynous, throne-sitting God, faceless, amorphous, both the Messiah and the God itself.
00:17:53.660 there's a lot of confusion on that side that has actually filtered over into the way people
00:17:57.880 perceive things now so if you go there and the ancestors go there there is a place lower or
00:18:09.000 worse in the sense as death is of course seen as well a general negative because holiness
00:18:16.840 is synonymous with being whole, and death is the breakdown of the whole. But the ancestors
00:18:25.680 coalesce there. And then beneath that, separate from that, is a place called Naustrand. So if
00:18:34.280 Helgard is bad, why have a more bad place, if you catch what I'm saying? The idea is that I,
00:18:42.100 You know, our ancestors most likely did not look at Helgaard as a bad place.
00:18:48.260 Naustrand was the place you didn't want to end up.
00:18:51.600 And that is where you really get separated with your own ego, with your own identity, with that which makes you an ancestor.
00:18:58.360 But when you cross over into the realm of the ancestors, you still have abilities.
00:19:04.580 it's written in numerous stories about this conceptualization that the ancestors affect
00:19:12.740 our daily lives just as the gods do perhaps in a slower sense and i have a theory of that but
00:19:22.660 they still affect our homina they affect our um our general prosperity and they are also
00:19:33.380 watching us determining whether or not we can rejoin them and become part of the ancestors again
00:19:41.780 um in uh the guest of the norm even that even though i you know you would think
00:19:48.820 that uh saxo grammaticus would make a very very negative view he doesn't completely um
00:19:57.540 And we see other accounts where the mound or the hill, the mountain, perhaps there's a mountain. The mountain is particularly important to this family.
00:20:13.700 And when someone dies in another country, they see the mountain open up and inside the mountain, the dead are celebrating the return of one of their kinsmen.
00:20:26.720 The kinsmen coming in is being lauded for their deeds.
00:20:32.220 And this is not that our ancestors believed, oh, all the dead will go into this mountain.
00:20:37.300 No, the mountain and the Barrow Mound are synonymous with the gate or the underworld.
00:20:45.580 And so we see celebration there.
00:20:47.480 We see celebration with Lord Balder.
00:20:50.520 And so having these kind of comparisons, we can deduce that most of this misconception comes from the Romantic period.
00:21:01.780 And lastly is the ascension after death.
00:21:08.180 some of the folks that i have met have wondered about this and we have spoken about this quite
00:21:14.100 often is oh if i go if i'm pulled if i'm chosen um i'll never get to see my ancestors i'll never
00:21:22.340 get to uh reconnect well there is evidence as well of the entering into the ancestors
00:21:30.820 and then being drawn up. And we have multiple examples of this with beings throughout our
00:21:39.960 tales that are neither gods nor elves nor humans. They have transcended beyond and have been given
00:21:46.860 access into the heavenly realm as servant, steward, supporter, and member of the hall.
00:21:55.840 and the hall might as well be the god itself as they are intertwined so deeply
00:22:01.460 that they are brought up into this level.
00:22:06.900 And so we also see this kind of post-death ascension.
00:22:14.020 The ancestors have power.
00:22:17.040 The gods or the souls that go up to the gods have power.
00:22:20.540 The souls that are chosen to be Desir and Alvar have power
00:22:25.100 And really the only ones you don't want to be are the ones separated and have to cross the River of Mournful Cries, which is Gjöl, and the cruel river Slidh, which tears away and leaves you kind of at the mercy of the primordial elements, if you will.
00:22:44.600 so the unpleasant nature of Helgard is a distracting kind of conception that we should
00:22:58.480 be teaching our folk is you know it comes from a spot of misunderstanding and we are going to
00:23:05.560 redirect and show this is where you know there were celebrations joining your ancestors is real
00:23:11.980 praying to your ancestors is worth it and that the ancestors have the ability through the well
00:23:17.660 mimir which floats into the lower world that through memory and through actions that are
00:23:25.140 committed they are able to look upon their living descendants and make decisions about
00:23:32.460 how they feel about
00:23:34.860 those still here
00:23:37.140 in Midgard
00:23:37.820 alright so
00:23:40.820 to be fair to it
00:23:46.500 because that's what the lore says
00:23:49.160 and makes a big point of
00:23:50.260 asking you know why do people think that
00:23:53.100 you know you have to die in battle
00:23:55.120 and go to Valhalla because that's how it's
00:23:57.300 portrayed in the lore
00:23:59.020 very often
00:24:00.760 there's not a great deal of you can't get there unless but there is a lot of slaying warriors go
00:24:09.480 here um some suggesting all battle dead go there and others making it seem more heroic um
00:24:23.480 Um, I think it is a product of the time to where the expectation of a, the audience for
00:24:34.520 this is warrior elite, certainly male centered war bands.
00:24:41.040 And the idea is die bravely and you earn a spot of honor in the afterlife.
00:24:47.700 avoid
00:24:50.980 bravery
00:24:52.420 and
00:24:53.660 you have a less good faith.
00:24:58.560 What I think is an important point
00:25:00.520 of theology,
00:25:02.040 we don't get to
00:25:04.540 decide what the gods do and what
00:25:06.480 they don't do. There's no
00:25:08.560 kind of magical rule because
00:25:10.560 somebody wrote something down in the
00:25:12.160 1300s that, or the
00:25:14.300 1200s that
00:25:15.440 now you get
00:25:17.440 to determine who he can have
00:25:19.260 at his table and who he can't
00:25:20.660 and I think that's really important just as
00:25:23.260 a point
00:25:25.260 of piety. Gods can do
00:25:27.280 what they want to do
00:25:28.020 but yeah I think that the
00:25:31.260 theme of that is that
00:25:33.060 chosen warriors
00:25:35.240 get to go there because of their
00:25:37.180 bravery. It is
00:25:39.340 looked at as a reward for
00:25:41.320 heroic death
00:25:42.360 Um, that said, people, people make a, I suppose people make a dichotomy of going to Valhalla
00:25:59.400 or going to the burial mound with the ancestors.
00:26:03.460 There are many other halls of the gods.
00:26:06.780 whatever we want to describe that as the point being that the gods can select mortals that they
00:26:16.120 choose to elevate to a greater existence in their afterlife they can use whatever criteria they
00:26:25.680 would like to make that choice but obviously the front runner idea there is people who are heroic
00:26:31.700 people who do great things for the gods to be proud of
00:26:37.060 and who earn the gods' notice that they make the choice to bring them up to a situation,
00:26:44.540 to invite them into a circle of existence closer to the gods.
00:26:51.480 In none of this are we to think that we're going to sit on wooden benches at a table and eat pork.
00:26:58.280 That's not really the point.
00:27:00.400 It's describing a celebratory place close and in the hospitality of our gods in an elevated position to where we are closer to them in understanding and in proximity.
00:27:15.300 We also have the concept of Gimli and of, you know, glorious places for righteous dead because our lives are eternal, barring, intentional destruction.
00:27:40.420 so the worst of the worst if you are deemed by the gods and the ancestors to be so worthless
00:27:47.420 that your existence is detrimental to the existence of society like if you are so bad
00:27:56.920 that we are better off without you again because energy doesn't disappear you get dissolved and
00:28:05.980 broken into component parts and recycled for better purpose but beyond that
00:28:16.620 the idea of things to do to earn a better place in the afterlife is make your ancestors
00:28:23.020 proud of you be such a person that they look forward to welcoming you among them when you
00:28:29.180 make it to the other side and that they're eager to be in your presence that you being amongst
00:28:34.140 among them you know elevate like raise the standard rather than lowers the standard for
00:28:39.900 your family beyond the veil also do what you can to earn the attention of the gods and to earn their
00:28:49.100 favor live your life in a way to make the gods proud of you but in a more mundane way make the
00:28:59.100 people who know you proudly swan talked about posthumous ascension um your position fame is
00:29:11.500 everything to our folk fame you can think of it as fame you can think of it as reputation
00:29:19.900 but your honor your reputation that you earn in your life that
00:29:29.100 that goes ahead of you announcing your presence that gives people an
00:29:34.440 expectation of you and that elevates you in the company of those who know
00:29:40.440 gods know they know they look on and they see
00:29:44.200 um the reputation of heroes is one of the things that saga
00:29:50.780 speaks to the all-father about when they drink
00:29:53.880 um the deeds of heroes and there's you know super duper heroes worthy of saga and song
00:30:04.460 there's also people who have moments of heroism who in a moment become more than they would be
00:30:12.360 find transcendence through acts of courage there's also people who live stalwartly loyal
00:30:20.240 to the gods throughout their lives who are loyal to those who are stand up members of their family
00:30:26.800 members of their community they are recognized and the more your ancestors or your descendants
00:30:33.740 rather celebrate you and stumble and raise horns to you and speak your name and celebrate your
00:30:39.480 deeds the better your fame grows in the afterlife so i think that we're we're foolish if we get too
00:30:48.620 definitive on where we think our place is in the afterlife, but these things put you in the best
00:30:55.460 position to have a favorable position. Our gods aren't sadistic, and I think we're in a place
00:31:02.560 in time where the desert gods might be. There's a lot of attention paid in those traditions on
00:31:11.440 punishment and on you know dealing out torture that's not really what our gods do the focus is
00:31:20.320 on celebrating heroes and you know on glorious things not on you know eternal flame of flesh and
00:31:30.720 you know terrible things so yeah it's not something to be feared outside of the normal
00:31:37.600 feel it fear that we all have death but work in life to build a reputation that precedes you
00:31:44.800 that speaks well of you in all the realms to where your ancestors are on the other side of
00:31:50.320 the veil singing your praises it's one of the interesting things um that occurred to me when
00:31:57.120 my friend uh goethe thorburn odin passed away a few years ago we now have two gothar of the afa
00:32:06.640 who precede us beyond the veil and who can speak to the ancestors and speak to those on the other
00:32:13.840 side in a very less encumbered way than we can about who we are about our deeds about
00:32:22.480 about what the AFA is, what we've built that can celebrate us and represent us to the ancestors.
00:32:30.000 And that's kind of a special thing.
00:32:31.500 And it's something that until that generation, until him and Gauthier David James, who passed in, I believe, 2015,
00:32:41.180 until then, we didn't have Gauthier who knew us, who could represent us on the other side.
00:32:46.520 And now we do.
00:32:47.160 And that's kind of special, I think.
00:32:48.580 um next question
00:32:53.060 amadeus the gray number one i don't know if there are many uh hey matt curious
00:33:02.280 you go about talking about convinced talking about slash convincing an atheist that our gods
00:33:09.660 are real i got a buddy at work he's young smart and pro-white but thinks the gods are just fairy
00:33:16.920 tips so
00:33:26.760 i don't think that you can it's not to say it's not worth trying but it's not an academic uh
00:33:33.960 provable thing that you're going to be able to do and if you approach it that way
00:33:39.080 like you're not going to be able to take him into a field and you know show him a miracle or something
00:33:45.400 to make that happen it doesn't really work that way but what i do think that you can do is honestly
00:33:55.000 share your experiences with the gods share your belief in the gods and invite him
00:34:03.480 to give that a shot and see what happens one of the best things um i don't think spawn or i can
00:34:13.160 prove to your atheist friends that the gods are real but we can help facilitate your friend's
00:34:21.000 opportunity to experience realness of the gods and i think that's the best way to go about it
00:34:27.960 if it becomes a debate there's some arbitrary set of rules that don't really affect the realness
00:34:35.160 or not of the gods so i would avoid that proposition altogether i would though
00:34:43.160 Talk about the ways that you know the gods are real and the effect that has on your life.
00:34:49.060 And don't try to argue with your friend.
00:34:51.400 It's not worth that.
00:34:53.000 It's just there's no way to win that.
00:34:55.680 But do invite your friend.
00:34:57.940 You know, life is richer when you walk with the gods and when you come to develop a relationship with them.
00:35:05.980 Has he tried?
00:35:08.040 Why does he want the gods not to be real?
00:35:10.640 I don't want the gods not to be real. Okay, cool. Well, if they are real, how about you try to make
00:35:17.980 an offering and be open and see for yourself? How about you treat them? One of the, and so it
00:35:26.580 depends. There are atheists that are committed to proving to you how silly you are and the gods 1.00
00:35:33.240 aren't real. That's one version that's very difficult, and I don't think you can do that. 0.99
00:35:38.780 they have to be in a place where they are willing to be open but if you have an atheist who is
00:35:46.460 intellectually curious and wants to have thought experiments and wants to play the game and wants
00:35:53.020 to engage in a discussion about it whether they genuinely seek truth or not if they're
00:35:57.500 just curious-minded people that are fair challenge them to give it a shot
00:36:02.860 out. Act as though the gods are real and see what happens. Treat the gods as if they were real
00:36:12.700 and see what happens. Approach the gods honestly and conduct yourself in a way that you think that
00:36:22.760 they are real or you're pretending they're real or however you want to phrase it
00:36:26.100 and see what happens in your life. I think one of the things is if you go through the motions
00:36:32.760 and you're genuinely trying and you're genuinely open to them being real you end up finding out
00:36:40.680 that they are in fact real and that there is in fact a positive change in your life and you feel
00:36:45.880 a presence and you feel a connection to the gods that you may not have thought was possible i think
00:36:52.360 that's a very real thing if you want more on just that idea um i was invited to do an interview
00:36:59.960 on an atheist show a number of years ago named tom jump it's in our archives on this channel
00:37:07.000 uh maybe even nick can find a link to it i don't know but it it is this it is this
00:37:13.160 question writ large it is me talking with an atheist and sharing with him why i believe that
00:37:20.280 our gods are real i guess why i know that our gods are real and seeing how that goes i don't
00:37:26.840 think i convinced him but he did reach out that his girlfriend was very curious and wanted to know
00:37:33.040 more many people in his audience were curious you're going to get people that want to treat
00:37:40.960 life as something you know ironic and something to not be treated seriously but you're also going
00:37:47.940 to find genuine people that haven't ever had religion in their life and don't know what
00:37:53.960 they're missing and it's a really good opportunity. I'm glad that you want to have that conversation
00:37:57.900 with your friend and I encourage you to do so. Svon, do you have any suggestions on that?
00:38:09.380 Excuse me, did it again. I think first off, one of the things that you have to do is
00:38:15.100 frame your mind into understanding where they are at um as al-ziragothi said it could be
00:38:24.180 that they're atheistic because they grew up in a household that didn't
00:38:29.980 uh see anything really beyond the material um and they're interested there could
00:38:38.540 More than likely, I see, however, there is that there are people defected from monotheism, and specifically because we live in the West, it would be Christianity.
00:38:52.760 And that they have become disposed, they have become critical because of the nature of monotheism and Christianity itself.
00:39:05.600 And it's hard for them to conceptualize our faith and the way that it's framed and how it's different. And so they immediately come in with a kind of critical mind and they relegate things down.
00:39:22.880 So it's like a double barrel between their modernism and the way that Christianity has, you know, demonized other religions.
00:39:33.580 And in so doing, they have also created a hostile environment for Western folk who are not of that faith in reality.
00:39:45.320 They're not, it doesn't always, they have to shave the corners to make it fit or really jump through the mental gymnastics.
00:39:56.320 So if you know where they're coming from, that is where I say you would start to look at things in various ways.
00:40:04.160 As I was here ago, they said, by the living example is probably the easiest because it can apply to all.
00:40:11.500 but you know the fact that there are people out there who think oh you know i've read the
00:40:20.540 the adas and they're you know fighting and doing these things and that things
00:40:26.240 they're looking at it very much like the bible which is a semi-historical it is that
00:40:33.240 directionality where man is making and making himself divine whereas on the other side
00:40:42.600 our faith is the newest applicant claims that he has a weapons charge
00:40:54.280 i'm sorry say again
00:40:55.160 go ahead i didn't realize my mic was still on okay so the directionality of our faith versus
00:41:05.680 other faiths we look at the cosmic and bring it into a realm of the mythic the the warrior the
00:41:17.480 dragon, the fighting, all of these things, the marriage, the halls, whatever you might
00:41:24.760 consider, these are, the gods are bigger than these, but are framed in that. The monotheism
00:41:33.980 says, no, there isn't an ecosystem of divine powers. There's only a singular power, and
00:41:42.000 how you interact in society will determine whether he lets you do stuff or get past or go
00:41:50.340 places. And it is that mortal men become divine through submission into the laws that predated
00:42:02.820 them and were set down. And it gets even more egregious because these laws were set for a whole
00:42:09.000 different group of people um and these people went wild as soon as they were freed from
00:42:15.400 from egypt and so you know these rules came down to really lock them in because as soon as they
00:42:22.100 got freedom they went insane and started doing crazy stuff so now that's being applied to western 0.53
00:42:28.980 europeans they're adopting it or you know bringing it on to themselves and they find oh this doesn't
00:42:35.340 make any sense, or it just doesn't feel right. It doesn't open up the needs I have. Instead,
00:42:45.360 I'm going to do exactly what the social group wants me to do. And then when I don't, I'll move
00:42:53.020 to another church and rinse and repeat and rinse and repeat. And ultimately, it's okay. I'll be
00:43:00.460 forgiven of my deeds. So that does affect people and make them kind of weary of faith. And so
00:43:11.020 by living and then explaining the directionality, that we are contextualizing cosmic truths
00:43:19.280 into a mythos, a myth or a story, which is not a lie. Christianity has tried to turn the word
00:43:27.520 myth into lie um again because they come from the semi-historical mortals are gods direction that
00:43:36.560 the earth and they go upwards whereas we are bringing things down into an understanding um
00:43:45.200 so when you have these effects people will find themselves oh it they're just fairy tales they're
00:43:55.200 just stories and that shows right away they're not aware of the importance of these contextualizations
00:44:04.320 they're not aware of the cosmic and the material being interconnected and reflecting each other
00:44:12.440 and that like at like a pool of water and that they become completely severed from the material
00:44:19.380 I mean, completely severed from the spiritual, excuse me. And they are only fixated on the
00:44:26.280 material. So I would say one of the best ways to start is, do you believe that there is something
00:44:32.660 more than just the material? And phrase it that way. And if they say yes, that is a great start
00:44:42.100 for them to start looking at the the greater and having an interaction with it now when it comes to
00:44:51.860 other people's another thing that you have to really kind of implant in people's minds is they
00:44:58.100 are so mentally uh porous that they cannot see the world except entirely through their relationship
00:45:08.500 with with other people they have no idea about and even people that completely hate them instead 0.88
00:45:14.980 you tell them the gods are your gods the universe is from your people's eyes your people's soul
00:45:25.700 and everything else will figure itself out you don't have to worry about oh are my gods also
00:45:32.820 these gods are these gods also those guys no these are your gods the gods of your people
00:45:39.700 and when you interact with them they will return that interaction and once that happens
00:45:46.300 there is no point in expanding on that but people again will spin their wheels there and
00:45:53.760 learning how to focus your site is a huge part of that as well so you will have to
00:46:02.600 kind of help them with that um but i mean those are just two kind of very
00:46:08.140 nebulous things i wanted to bring up so it's fun um
00:46:14.340 mention this and such or first ron donated twenty dollars to help us pay off race off
00:46:21.120 Thank you, Ron. Appreciate it. Spahn touched on something there. So people want to overcomplicate
00:46:32.380 things, especially many people who are drawn to Ausatru or who we find at present who are curious
00:46:43.040 about it. Often those people are intellectually minded. They are well read. They have an interest
00:46:48.520 in history, an interest in philosophy, but sometimes people are too smart for their own
00:46:55.920 good. I mean this in the sense that oftentimes people will overanalyze and hyperanalyze
00:47:05.260 something forever instead of just doing the thing. So I have always been a fan of keep
00:47:17.160 this basic. Get back to the fundamentals. Get good at the fundamentals. Worship the
00:47:26.940 gods genuinely from your heart with piety and respect, and things will work out good
00:47:34.280 for you. Now, yes, those of us that are very curious about all these things, don't shut
00:47:42.440 it off and don't be curious i wouldn't say that at all but always return to the fundamentals even
00:47:47.880 if you don't have it all figured out perfect yet even if we are unable to give you the answers to
00:47:54.440 every question you can't eliminate all question that doesn't mean that you don't have things
00:48:04.760 that are absolutely true that you know are true celebrate the truths while you explore
00:48:11.560 the questions. Don't let a lack of perfect understanding of everything prevent you from
00:48:19.280 simply going to your altar and worshiping your gods, pouring out a libation, lighting some
00:48:26.480 incense, and giving a prayer. You don't have to be an expert to be also true, and you can be an
00:48:33.700 eminent expert and not Yasutru. Mary asks, can you both suggest ways a member of the AFA
00:48:43.460 let folk in his or her area know that the AFA exists and would welcome them to join?
00:48:49.620 Svon, what are your thoughts on that?
00:48:50.980 um yeah i would say really social grouping is the first and main point of that family
00:49:02.760 and friends um getting your family to come out and share with you in your faith is a huge thing
00:49:12.380 and again if you're fighting monotheistic trepidations it could be something as simple as
00:49:19.100 come and see what I do so that you're no longer X, Y, or Z. Um, and as long as they're, you know,
00:49:29.040 uh, not hostile, you know, that bringing them to events or bringing them to moots or
00:49:35.760 bringing them to your own personal, uh, bloat, I think is, is a great way to start for them to see
00:49:44.160 Every time I have ever had people who are not in our faith come to a wedding, come to a name fastening, the sprinkling of water on the child, or a funeral, there's always this conversation afterwards where they say, that just felt so natural.
00:50:08.800 that felt like i understood exactly why and what was going on i have never felt this way or um
00:50:18.880 at a wedding i i recently performed um early in the in the summer um there was there was this um
00:50:29.840 sense that when when nature when the forces of nature the will of the gods apple implementing
00:50:37.040 it's uh the mesh in our material world really actually manifested in front of people
00:50:45.680 that really threw a lot of people off they couldn't some of them were dizzy from it um
00:50:53.840 and again it's about relationship it's it's not uh you know anyone like not one person in particular
00:51:02.320 doing things. No, it's this incredible relationship that we can have with the gods
00:51:07.440 that is there and they just happen to witness it. So there are opportunities in these moments
00:51:16.800 of bloat and of sumble and of holy tides and coming to temples, coming to the hoth,
00:51:24.580 coming to national events that can allow for people who don't believe. And it just requires
00:51:32.300 you inviting them so the social circle it's easy to start out with friends and family perhaps it's
00:51:41.180 a social club or network of people that you like or some specific people in there that
00:51:49.020 are more open to it and then lastly there is outside of your social circle and in that one
00:51:57.820 that one gets a little harder uh you know outside of say co-workers and things like that
00:52:05.420 but be open to chance because the gods are guiding people back to the faith and you may be
00:52:15.180 the harbor so if you meet someone and they see your thor's hammer don't be afraid to say oh yeah
00:52:23.340 i'm i'm with the asitra folk assembly i'm also true i've been also true for this long and uh you
00:52:31.180 should come out i'm gonna do a bloat at my house on thursday and then in two weeks we'd have an
00:52:37.420 event at the huff and i'm going down there you should come with me there's nothing wrong with
00:52:42.140 doing that and again it's not placed on a caveat uh just as people get all twisted up about us
00:52:51.660 we kneel on our knee to show respect to the gods not supplication but respect because of their power
00:53:01.660 and piety because of their power but we also invite people not because i'm trying to save
00:53:07.500 your soul that lord othen wants you to come down to the hof or he's gonna uh
00:53:13.660 throw you in a river of knives no so there's less pressure there
00:53:21.660 You're not concealing some alternative motive. Instead, it should be liberating and you should
00:53:28.480 be able to say, hey, if you want to come down, you can come down and see this and see how it's
00:53:33.640 helped me and my life has grown from this. And I've come home. I feel more comfortable now in
00:53:39.380 understanding the divine. And there's the community that I have and we are helping people with food
00:53:46.500 and we are coming together and doing things and maybe you'd like to do that too you don't have an
00:53:52.660 alternative motive so you shouldn't feel as much trepidation um i think that is a huge point that
00:54:00.340 a lot of people forget because they immediately associate trying to network people and be that
00:54:06.980 harbor for people to come home be that light for them is somehow like you're trying to sell
00:54:14.420 the gods or you're trying to trick people or uh save their souls as i have often heard
00:54:20.500 from monotheists so if you don't have that that opens up a lot so everybody's circumstance is
00:54:27.620 different um be identifiably also true i mean assume assuming that you're up to good things
00:54:41.860 be identifiably also true don't don't wear your hammer to the strip club
00:54:48.580 but like if you're doing good things and you're known for who you are you are a living
00:54:58.580 living billboard for our faith if you want to be wear your hammer wear it proudly and
00:55:05.860 and take opportunities to speak openly about our faith.
00:55:13.260 I know that we all, or I'm sure a great many of us,
00:55:18.260 have a discomfort talking about Ausatru publicly in mixed company
00:55:24.200 because any of the normal fears you might expect,
00:55:28.560 but quite honestly, just because it's different requires explanations
00:55:32.540 and people may look at you funny or whatever that is.
00:55:35.860 we all have kind of a innate fear of being looked at funny get over that to the best of our ability
00:55:44.840 and talk about ausitry um you know when you're out at a restaurant bless your meal don't like
00:55:55.600 secretly bless your meal but bless your meal with your family and if people ask about it great if
00:56:01.400 If they don't, that's fine.
00:56:02.520 They're not doing it for them.
00:56:03.580 But it does give them the opportunity to see a person practicing Ausatru in real life.
00:56:09.700 Hey, I overheard you guys saying grace there.
00:56:12.600 You said something about Odin?
00:56:14.080 What?
00:56:14.680 I'm curious.
00:56:16.080 Oh, yeah, we worship Odin.
00:56:17.460 We're Ausatru.
00:56:18.680 What?
00:56:19.780 Ausatru, I've never heard that.
00:56:21.780 Okay, well, here you go.
00:56:22.940 Here's the website.
00:56:25.520 Here's whatever.
00:56:26.840 Have whatever conversation you want.
00:56:28.520 But breaking the ice is important.
00:56:31.400 we all have people in our lives all over the place that don't know about house of truth
00:56:40.680 that we interact with don't be obnoxious don't uh be somebody that you know tries to
00:56:49.640 annoy people with something that they clearly don't want but bring it up talk about it people
00:56:55.320 are talking about their church talk about yours people are talking about their faith
00:57:00.440 talk about yours we all have friends that you play video games with or that you train at your
00:57:07.320 dojo or train at your gym or you know are part of a club that you're part of or you know
00:57:16.280 whatever your situation might be whatever your hobbies are whatever you do
00:57:21.400 talk to them that it's as simple as that but it's the combination of the two things
00:57:26.840 them knowing you them knowing you're not crazy and you have a good life you have a good family
00:57:34.380 you're not a bad person huh this house of truth thing must be something serious because you're
00:57:40.060 a serious person you wouldn't tell me that if it wasn't serious huh let me look into that
00:57:44.980 it all starts there word of mouth is very powerful but extend that we all have different groups that
00:57:52.780 interact with online um we all have social media we all have stuff share the afa's posts share links
00:58:00.860 to this program tell people about it be proactive share this on your social media share it in you
00:58:09.340 know whatever group that you're part of you can share links and those help and it can and you can
00:58:15.660 share links with a certain amount of social buffer if you're uncomfortable otherwise those are all
00:58:21.820 things that i would suggest um i got a follow-up question for you guys in relation to your question
00:58:32.060 how do you react when marvel fans think it's your religion example uh hamdala is the whitest god
00:58:40.460 but marvel thinks otherwise it's fun have you ever run into that in real life 0.78
00:58:45.340 um other than the flippant oh you mean like the marvel
00:58:54.620 thor or that that kind of is mentioned the only time i really hear it is when it's weaponized by
00:59:01.260 monotheistic white european christians who just they hate um pre like uh pre-christian europe
00:59:13.180 and so that i mean the irony of that is you know being pro-european but hating pre-christian europe
00:59:19.840 and so they're like oh your gods are in marvel or you know they try to weaponize it as an insult
00:59:24.500 but actual marvel fans or people of pop culture i never have however i have seen people
00:59:33.400 come into the faith heavily influenced by media and the the biggest problem with that is there's
00:59:45.200 an upside downside to media being the way in which people become interested is that the the
00:59:51.560 upside is is that they hear the names and they are encouraged in their heart to pursue but yet
00:59:57.940 they bring what they know with them so that they don't feel like an absolute newborn it gives them 0.95
01:00:04.780 a sense of kind of stability and what they end up looking like is kind of foolish because 0.93
01:00:09.220 they're really just deifying pop culture and or or attempting to to not look foolish so oh yeah i 0.76
01:00:19.660 got my thor's hammer and it's the marvel thor's hammer or something like that and then they start
01:00:25.860 reading the books and they're like, wait a minute, Loki's not Thor's brother. And then they get
01:00:31.060 confused. But usually I've seen people like kind of, oh, I'm completely wrong, but no one's going
01:00:37.940 to lambast me for not knowing. So I'm just going to lay all this pop culture down and actually
01:00:44.360 start genuinely studying. And that's generally what I've seen. So those upside downsides kind
01:00:53.260 of play out in the after effects of where people go with it but pop culture in and of itself can
01:00:59.180 affect in other ways i've seen people come into house of truth through music and some of those
01:01:03.700 music like in the 80s and 90s uh there's a band called manowar and very very um i don't think
01:01:13.800 they were doing it just for laughs there was a sincerity in their music
01:01:18.120 so man award notes um first the vocals are awesome that's kind of just got light because
01:01:29.160 the vocals are really clear and powerful and awesome um but secondly one of their albums
01:01:37.240 all of the like album notes all of the like liner notes and stuff were in rooms and
01:01:44.040 and guy i worked with showed it to me and was super impressed because i start reading i started
01:01:51.800 reading him the notes and he was like you know really interested in that it was when i was
01:01:57.400 bouncing and the guy that was like my bouncing guru um great guy named barry eagles passed away
01:02:03.480 years ago um he was i think norwegian by you know heritage i
01:02:16.280 so i've told this story on here might as well i the way that job worked when they're hiring
01:02:21.400 you for a bouncer there would have you come in early sunday morning and the guys had been
01:02:27.400 fighting and bouncing and dealing with stuff all weekend so they had to get up early and they were
01:02:31.480 grumpy and then i'll gather around in a circle and like rapid fire question you and like
01:02:36.840 interrogate you on the interview and i guess i don't know i guess i was standoffish to this
01:02:45.560 or something they were not going to hire me because they thought i was trying to flex on them
01:02:49.880 i think i just had good posture and was like i don't know it was how i responded to them kind
01:02:54.520 of coming at me with stuff but this guy barry he was the boss's brother he noticed my hammer
01:03:02.920 and came over he asked me about it he told him i was that was true and i explained it
01:03:06.760 and he pulled his hammer out and started talking to me and i think he was just wearing his for
01:03:11.800 for cultural reasons you know he liked the idea of it but i don't know that he was sold on the gods
01:03:18.760 but he knew that i was and so he you know he was trying to one night it was a slow night and he had
01:03:24.360 his man of war cd out he was you know trying to get me to listen man award he's like and check
01:03:28.440 this out these are in rooms whatever and i started reading them and he was really impressed it's not
01:03:33.400 necessarily relevant but it came to mind when you brought it up well yeah i i i mean i think
01:03:45.720 there are certain people that get uh attracted to come home through many different mediums
01:03:53.080 and some are i think more pleasant than others is kind of what we're really talking about if you
01:03:58.920 have this person who comes home because they were inspired by uh this music that you know they
01:04:06.280 understand concepts of like heroism and they're attracted to those concepts and want to attain
01:04:14.760 those things but then you have people who are on top culture and perhaps it's kind of the same
01:04:19.320 thing heroism but it's deeply uh entwined with modernism and modern concepts and and all of
01:04:29.260 those things and um again it's ultimately the directionality is is it's mortals becoming gods
01:04:38.040 kind of idea very abrahamic very middle eastern versus the the indescribable
01:04:47.660 cosmic forces becoming describable and then being relatable through things that we experience
01:04:56.940 in our lives. That directionality to us versus us being the gods of the world or being gods of
01:05:04.660 the material. So you end up... No, I was just going to say, I thought you were finished. I was going
01:05:11.500 say I've never I have never encountered a serious confusion about Marvel characters I have encountered
01:05:19.280 snarky people trying to be rude right but I've never encountered like somebody oh I thought that
01:05:25.880 was just comic book characters I've never met a real person say that I've had rude Christians 0.85
01:05:32.260 online say that I've never I don't know that that exists in the wild but I know that that's something
01:05:38.720 that people on twitter or whatever like to say snarky thing about which is silly on facebook
01:05:49.280 um this next question is interesting i'm gonna throw it to you first spawn
01:05:55.760 what are your thoughts on englism and the slavic arian betas
01:06:01.760 um i've heard about englism as like an offshoot of the the uh rod novary branch um i don't know
01:06:17.360 if it would be considered again an offshoot or an organization that is technically rod novary but
01:06:25.840 they they have perhaps a focus and an idea of where they're trying to go and what they're trying
01:06:31.740 to do um i've heard scant about them or i'm i'm i'm not hugely familiar with them um
01:06:41.680 now i've also heard about the slavic edas and that they they're there is a claim or
01:06:50.100 at least a proposition that it was written or edict out by Perun, who is the striker god of
01:07:02.460 the Slavic faith and would be an absolute comparison of the two. If we're looking at
01:07:10.420 two separate Aryan branches, our branch is Thor in the Slavic branches. Perun and that, you know, 0.82
01:07:18.460 many many are like 3 000 years um before the common era that this was written or this was
01:07:29.900 attested to i don't know about that i'm i'm speculative of it and um i didn't hear that
01:07:37.420 proclamation till just tonight i i was looking up because i was like yeah i've heard of this
01:07:42.620 and i'm looking at and i was like whoa that's kind of a strange proclamation so i am very
01:07:48.220 skeptical of that i think um that is a huge need that a lot of people have to oh our religion was
01:08:00.060 written by a god that sounds very abrahamic again the directionality thing i keep pointing out
01:08:06.300 um also a deep connection or desire by other aryan branches to want to attach their faith
01:08:14.140 directly to the Araya of India is another one that I find it's tempting for the other Aryan
01:08:27.200 branches to do. They don't understand why, okay, why did the Araya write things down 1.00
01:08:33.160 so soon, and yet these other branches didn't. And of course, this is in relation to the importance
01:08:41.040 of oral history and poetry kind of what we're even very much talking about in the lore that
01:08:47.200 we are talking about tonight to even the material that it to create these things were not
01:08:56.800 emphasized because of other things so the writing down of those traditions makes them older and
01:09:04.080 somehow uh people in their minds say okay well if this is a written down older therefore it is
01:09:11.440 somehow more authentic it's this kind of litmus that they have written down in their minds and so
01:09:18.880 in in that a lot of other groups branches of aryan uh religions or religiosity of the gods
01:09:28.800 are like oh no no we're we're like them we did it like them and and here it is and i would be very
01:09:35.520 very speculative of it um a lot of kind of aftermath of um the bolshevik revolution
01:09:46.080 throughout russia and the slavic countries has created some very interesting waves in its wake
01:09:53.920 and in doing so there's been a kind of like imagine starving a people of their spiritual
01:10:00.400 countenance and they become ultra you know greek orthodox or they become ultra uh rodnavary and
01:10:10.000 they want to go big and and they present a lot of things and so i'd be speculative of that
01:10:17.840 However, if they're a group that's organizing and doing things, you know, that's within their complete power to do so. I think linguistics is the big thing.
01:10:30.100 It's much easier for groups in Slavic countries to utilize ideas within a Slavic context.
01:10:39.300 And it's much harder for Slavic people to see the success we're having here and adopt it because perhaps things are lost in translation.
01:10:49.440 And that's something that I think we're we are working towards in reigniting the gods back into the whole of European people's souls.
01:11:03.740 And so when you have that problem, there are going to be people that are going to immediately cordon off and try to just hold into one entire section.
01:11:13.920 and they don't want to relinquish oh yeah you know we're Slavic so we're going to do it the
01:11:19.780 Slavic way instead of seeing that the gods as Aryan gods have been in all of these branches
01:11:29.760 the relationships are different with the different people but out of all of those people
01:11:33.680 they remain here now in the angelo or germanic uh branch but this branch is the most open to
01:11:45.860 um the acceptance and understanding that we were all once a unified people and it's not simply
01:11:51.860 just being an anglo-germanic anymore it's it's beyond that now so we um we i think we find that
01:11:59.360 a lot. As long, I haven't looked into what they have produced or what their deeds are, so I can't 0.99
01:12:06.900 give a full-on opinion, but that's just kind of what I'm thinking on the onset. All right, so I
01:12:16.080 would really like to pretend that I know about this stuff. I really don't. When I read the question
01:12:21.360 in the queue that is the first time i had ever heard of that movement or those texts uh i do
01:12:29.040 have wikipedia pulled up on them on the side and it sounds fascinating and i'm really curious about
01:12:34.240 it i you know share a lot of initial skepticism but it sounds very interesting and i definitely
01:12:42.160 would like to read more yeah i one of the things that caught my attention about them was the usage
01:12:48.240 of the in in relation to of course our lord in fray and um perhaps the russian swede connection
01:12:57.360 there but uh couldn't find an immediate thing on it so i i don't know so you will definitely be
01:13:04.480 reading more about that matt how devastating are the election results going to be for our people
01:13:11.920 in the future who's to say um no i i am an american uh
01:13:24.800 my state didn't get hit particularly bad by it but
01:13:32.560 i get the concern can't say i'm not you know deflated a bit about how some things went
01:13:39.680 But we don't gain a lot from that. I think it's impossible to say what kind of negative effects, but we've had overwhelmingly chaotic, non-traditional, progressive, in quotation mark,
01:14:03.940 surges of political things in our country before
01:14:09.460 that we've written out just fine.
01:14:14.900 What I will say that is positive about it,
01:14:18.200 and I don't mean to sidestep the question.
01:14:20.600 Functionally, I don't know a lot.
01:14:23.460 I know in order to get those results,
01:14:25.380 a lot of the more extreme ideologies
01:14:29.220 that were bad for our folk,
01:14:32.840 a lot of the woke agenda seems less prominent right now and whether the mask comes off and
01:14:39.880 that's as bad as it was you know five years ago or something we'll find out
01:14:45.240 but a whole lot of people have opened their eyes to a lot of things there are people today that
01:14:54.480 are able to question a lot of things and our political overlords in this country are
01:15:02.840 not able to i don't know disregard and not notice those things anymore and i think that that is an
01:15:11.320 interesting thing we're able to have conversations about israeli influence on our government in a way
01:15:18.920 that we've never previously been able to openly discuss a large part of the reason that the
01:15:26.200 results went the way that they did is there are lots of our people that have opened up to just
01:15:32.120 how much foreign influence there is on our governance and how little attention is paid to
01:15:39.240 justice and appropriate immigration enforcement in our homeland people are aware now and that
01:15:48.440 is a force for the future that hopefully will lead to something positive every time anything
01:15:54.360 happens in this and i really do believe this we we can all bemoan the things that we don't like
01:15:59.240 about it and i'm with you but it doesn't get us places what i think we need to invest our time
01:16:08.120 and our energy in is things that do is finding the openings and the opportunities that seeming
01:16:15.560 setbacks open up for us um when things go our way awesome make full advantage of that and celebrate
01:16:26.360 when things go a different way it means there's a whole lot of people that are desperate for
01:16:32.840 you know other people that understand them they're desperate for things that do make
01:16:37.960 sense when the world out there does not bring them home to the afa things do make sense here
01:16:45.000 in the afa and our afa family you are optimally poised to celebrate and make the most of when
01:16:51.320 things go our way, but also to fall back on your friends and family and other people that get it
01:16:57.640 and share your worldview when things in the rest of the world seem topsy-turvy. And I really do mean
01:17:03.020 that. I know it sounds like a sunshine and rainbows thing, but it's something I very much
01:17:08.860 believe. We are building our own golden age inside the husk of the wolf age that we find ourselves
01:17:15.720 in and we're doing it one member at a time one half at a time but we are building it we have
01:17:22.600 you know six physical outposts of that golden age here in the united states that you can go to
01:17:30.680 and be surrounded by the love of the gods the fellowship of the folk we have those physically
01:17:37.580 in the world um we are getting community developed move closer afa members and you know
01:17:46.340 live your life don't bemoan all of the things in the world that aren't fixable by any of us
01:17:53.960 individually at this time focus on things that we can fix make things optimal to the best of
01:18:01.080 our abilities for our fellows who get it we're in our circles who share our worldview who share
01:18:06.480 our faith in the gods and you know whatever the case we will get through it and hopefully we've
01:18:12.960 worked together we'll get through it stronger there'll be times where things ebb and flow and
01:18:18.240 surge in positive ways but we have to also be able to make the best negative situations we
01:18:24.640 find ourselves in and the biggest thing i say is those situations open people's eyes to
01:18:31.600 things like this that matter in their life be poised to bring those people home and
01:18:38.680 be there to support one another if you know depending upon what these results do bring our
01:18:45.880 way it's fine do you have anything to add on it um yes i i think that perception is the key to
01:18:55.400 understanding, what we should be looking at is, and the answer I would present to this question
01:19:02.980 is, we are in no different of a trajectory of threat since 1965. So if you would look at it
01:19:13.040 like this from 1865 to 1965, there has only been four presidents who have ever gained seats in a
01:19:22.720 term. That's Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Obama, and Bush Jr. These are the only
01:19:35.520 four who have ever gained. So this is not out of the ordinary at all. I think the trepidation
01:19:42.080 that's being built up, the kind of media stir and psychosis is exceptionally new. It kind of gives
01:19:51.480 me a waypoint but from 1865 to 1965 really uh things were different for our folk after
01:20:03.480 the um what was the name of the act the heller and kent i think it is act of 1965 the immigration act
01:20:15.160 That basically started this influx where we became porous
01:20:20.900 and both political parties were able to absorb new voters in
01:20:27.200 in order to change voting.
01:20:32.960 That's when things became the trajectory that it's in now.
01:20:38.200 And it's not changing, it's continuing.
01:20:41.340 um and that is what i think i'll see here go these you know the optimism the hope and the
01:20:48.840 forward looking is placed into the scope that you can't you you can pinpoint a moment like i just did
01:20:58.040 and talk about a trajectory but at the end of the day what can you do is what you can control what
01:21:04.860 you can do how you can change things so i'm talking very ethereal very uh you know open framed
01:21:14.720 concepts and then at the end of the day you can't say oh we're doomed now no it's pretty much been
01:21:22.560 this way since 1965 and what i'm saying is that you should have been urged to do something what
01:21:31.320 you could do early on but if now is that moment then now is that moment and what you can control
01:21:39.760 is again building the golden age with your hands yourself and that catching that momentum but i
01:21:49.640 always bring that up because midterm none of this is the fear i think is very unwarranted
01:21:56.260 because of the patterns of of our our some of this is is age two
01:22:01.720 when you're young if this is your you know maybe this is your first time voting maybe you are
01:22:11.600 yes your first election maybe you haven't been paying attention to politics for a lot of your
01:22:16.900 life the more that you see how similar things are and how little authentically gets done in
01:22:25.440 you know the more you understand it you grow a bit jaded and a bit cynical but you also are
01:22:32.380 more buttressed for when things come your way that are disheartening i think a lot of us had
01:22:38.200 a lot of hope that really cool things would have happened over the last two years and that
01:22:44.880 politicians would have stood by the things that they said they were about those of us who have
01:22:51.040 paid attention to politics for a long time though they're very seldom to politicians follow through
01:22:56.960 on the things that they claim to be about the promises that they make unfortunately doesn't
01:23:02.760 mean none who doesn't mean none ever will but it does mean more often than not they don't and like
01:23:09.660 i said the more people the more messed up things get the more people are aware of that deviance
01:23:19.900 and the more they are open to trying to fix it.
01:23:25.460 Let's all get together and fix what we can
01:23:27.680 and build each other up,
01:23:30.420 build the things that are authentic
01:23:32.820 that we can fix like our families
01:23:35.160 and like our faith community.
01:23:37.000 So we're in a spot,
01:23:37.820 there's a lot of people right now that feel helpless.
01:23:39.560 They're disconnected, they're atomized,
01:23:41.440 their only interaction with people is over the computer
01:23:43.280 and they watched something jarring politically
01:23:47.140 for them today.
01:23:48.040 their family may not understand them and they may only be able to talk to other people online about
01:23:56.180 this we have the ability to affect hundreds if not thousands of other individuals to help make
01:24:06.860 their life better to help build something better together for our future for our children for our
01:24:11.800 children's children the house true folk assembly affords us that opportunity to come together
01:24:17.900 in a way that a lot of other people don't have.
01:24:20.260 And we're blessed because of it.
01:24:21.580 We should make the most of it.
01:24:25.100 Why do Christians seem to have a problem with waking up? 0.99
01:24:28.860 It's as if they're aware, but they're not.
01:24:32.500 Why do they call their native religion demonic
01:24:37.000 and follow a foreign Abrahamic belief?
01:24:39.840 Is there any saving them or are they just too far gone? 0.98
01:24:43.560 Spawn?
01:24:44.560 Fear.
01:24:44.940 fear is the reason they are afraid uh implemented at you know young ages through generations
01:24:55.080 fear is the thing and you have to understand that too when uh for people who become
01:25:02.900 ausitru they they return and they live their life and over um time they see more people coming in
01:25:11.040 and as they do they have to negotiate one aspect which is to understand that this person might be
01:25:17.720 full of doubt and trepidation because of fear that was implanted in them and because they don't know
01:25:26.960 that hell isn't hell it's Gehenna and that you know Jesus isn't Jesus it's Yeshua and he's not
01:25:35.380 christos the anointed by fat in greek no he is the mashiach of the judeans and from you know the the
01:25:45.860 the king not the king of the world no the king of the holy land which is not europe and not where
01:25:52.740 our folk are from the middle east it takes layers after layer of peeling away all of all of this
01:26:01.860 fear through facts and showing them no look this is why it is the way this is this is the why it
01:26:08.420 is the way it this is and their relationship with the divine has been entirely built on this fear
01:26:15.380 and that fear has been sold to them under a blanket of shiny lie which is that it is
01:26:22.500 unconditional love um i was even talking to one of my clients today he cannot separate his
01:26:30.260 conceptualization that despite all of the lies that have been told and all the fear that has
01:26:37.260 been washed over him it still comes from a place of love and despite the jealous god or the
01:26:47.440 punishment for sins of the ancestors of other people it doesn't matter it you know it it's
01:26:57.340 all about true love but i don't want to turn away because i'm gonna get punished and so they
01:27:04.940 immediately make everything that is outside of that um evil and they use the the greek word
01:27:14.440 demonic um which is you know really incorrect but now that we know uh about with through archaeology
01:27:24.520 All monotheism comes from polytheism, all of it. None of it just popped up organically. It was always, in the case of Yahweh, a minor god separating into a cult and that cult becoming its own faith, and then that faith expounding on the idea that their god is the only god.
01:27:46.740 The same with Islam, the head god of the Islamic pagan pantheon becomes the central cult. It happened in Egypt numerous times. Thankfully, they wrote about it. So we can see this rise and fall of monotheism in a society that we know about. 0.85
01:28:06.360 um this kind of offshoot and offspring of or condensing down breaking away from nature
01:28:13.820 and only concerning ourselves with the divine and man um not having any conceptualization
01:28:22.840 of other things is a side effect and with that you are affronted by realities and so you must
01:28:30.620 make those reality realities evil um i was just listening to the song um what is it the uh the
01:28:39.340 sinking of the edmund fitzgerald and there is a line in there it says where is god's love when
01:28:46.860 the waves would not stop crashing and it hit me that um you know these uh these men these god
01:28:55.820 fearing men are getting pummeled by the water and their doom is imminent and they just have to
01:29:04.600 you know take it and trust in the great plan or or what have you but if is all love then why
01:29:14.080 this trepidation and doom of being battered and crushed by the world around them um and
01:29:22.020 they find different reasons uh you know god has a plan and and that's usually like a benign and
01:29:31.260 kind of not willful thing so it becomes neutral or it's evil the reason why anything they're
01:29:40.060 experiencing is because they're evil the and it started even with the the judeans why are the
01:29:46.260 romans in the holy land why isn't the messiah showing up and blasting the romans out of our
01:29:53.900 place with i-beams and um you know i don't know uh menorah missiles or whatever it's it's 0.90
01:30:02.260 the ridiculousness of it is is that it builds a concept that there is punishment that is
01:30:09.800 brought upon because they have filed down divinity into one singular aspect and anything
01:30:18.980 outside of that then must become the reflective opposite they can't see the evolution of the cult
01:30:27.300 of yahweh separating from the canaanites and they can't see that the judeans being enslaved by the
01:30:36.320 babylonians is you know the the flood myth synthesized into that culture and they completely
01:30:43.100 adopted that story from the people that had enslaved them they cannot see it and it gets
01:30:50.980 even worse when it's europeans defending it at just white frothy of the mouth defense and that
01:31:01.900 all boils down to one thing is fear they are afraid
01:31:06.020 for misdeeds and it is all throughout so despite the conditional love there's lots of conditions
01:31:15.220 and that condition is fear and fear is one of the hardest things to break psychologically from
01:31:21.400 people so that they can then be free it is the cave um but the cave is the maw of
01:31:30.420 this being that they say is it's unconditional one nope everything was set up because if you
01:31:39.240 go against me um you know you shall you shall suffer um eternally and that is kind of a hard
01:31:48.580 oh but we have free will it's like this setup is so foreign to the soul of the folk and the
01:31:58.780 sensibility of honor and the way that the cosmos and nature works that it always reaches this
01:32:05.580 breaking point and i think the only thing that keeps them on the other side of it is fear so
01:32:15.020 sure i think fear is part of it but i also think comfort is a bigger part of it i don't think it's
01:32:19.180 fear of damnation i think it is fear of social acceptance the lack thereof it is easy to be a
01:32:28.060 christian it is easy to be christian and have your peers not look at you funny have your family
01:32:37.260 celebrate your choice not feel like you're strange or different or other and there's a comfort factor
01:32:45.820 to it it's something that our you know many of our parents or our grandparents our great-grandparents
01:32:53.180 and a long line of our people we're familiar with and you don't have to deal with the same
01:33:01.820 difference that those of us who are also true have to deal with
01:33:07.020 and they lack the courage to stand on things that they know to be true so the more and more
01:33:12.300 they wake up to truth the more they have to do radical mental gymnastics you know like 0.92
01:33:21.260 like black Hebrew Israelites or like the British Israelists
01:33:28.240 or Christian identity, you know, we was Jews
01:33:33.860 because you have to do this painful mental gymnastics
01:33:38.400 to make it work.
01:33:39.740 And it's funny and it's silly from the outside
01:33:42.960 and from the inside, there is a big hurdle
01:33:47.080 to break free of that and to embrace something that's different, something that isn't mainstream
01:33:55.180 yet, something that is not familiar to your coworkers or to your family or to your friends
01:34:02.920 that you have to explain, and you have to have the ability to stand tall and be looked
01:34:14.880 at funny none of us we we are all social creatures and as much as many of us may
01:34:20.960 pound our chest and pretend that we're above it we all have a reluctance to be looked at as strange
01:34:27.600 or different or odd or other we all want to fit in and rejecting christianity and turning to
01:34:36.000 also true is a degree of that depending on your family depending on your peer group
01:34:41.520 um so you have to face truth on its own terms instead of on the terms that are comfortable
01:34:48.400 to you and i think people shy away from that discomfort i think that's the biggest thing
01:34:53.100 what do you think of doing that say there it's fine let's say oh wow that was it uh
01:35:02.020 uh so i think in as of late some people have tried to turn
01:35:07.420 Seder into this kind of evil form of magic. They tried to create a dichotomy in order to
01:35:15.900 best establish their position in one camp or the other. But what we see from historical counts is
01:35:24.140 that it was blended in our ancient ancestor societies and that it was a conceptualization
01:35:32.620 that had directionality i've spoken about religious directionality so now magic directionality
01:35:39.220 and say there is inward versus outward and that makes it inherently feminine it makes it inherently
01:35:49.080 uh of the earth and of the water because the water and the earth receive um and uh in juxtaposition
01:35:59.600 to say any other magical type but obviously we're going to pull into say like gold or rune where it's
01:36:05.360 this manifestation of trying to implement one's will forward into the or law of the world and so
01:36:12.560 therefore that's projected inherently masculine and um that that attempt to polarize it is really
01:36:21.760 I think a whiplash of modernism, modern feminine or modern ideals about the feminine are shaping
01:36:31.960 that. And that's what they're truly following. And I would caution us against that. We are 0.59
01:36:37.320 two halves that bring something to the table and are better for by understanding. So I don't have
01:36:46.220 the stigma of of um understanding say that and and considering the possibilities of the exploration
01:36:54.640 of it in particular amongst our our women folk i think it's because um it is uh inherently feminine
01:37:03.300 that the feminine powers uh do it better um and that is an allocation of the power of that
01:37:11.700 femininity but the reaction of oh no say there's bad and galder is good that's i think a product of
01:37:17.660 modern political kind of notions affecting something in our faith that i that's that's
01:37:26.760 why i take an objection to that they should stop doing that and realize no there is a unit
01:37:32.520 unification between the two that have functionality within each other and so therefore
01:37:37.380 We should have our lady folks exploring this lost tradition and reconnecting with their ancestors and attempting to learn. And that even men who are reading it, trying to understand it, maybe perhaps even too.
01:37:54.560 My biggest interest was its connectivity to pre-Bronze Age magic systems and its connectivity to spirit travel or the understanding of the spiritual world.
01:38:12.540 Those things, I find that very fascinating, and I don't think we should discount them.
01:38:16.520 i think we should encourage that it is again two sides are coming together on the table and we are
01:38:21.960 better to have them both rather than to ostracize one and glorify the other just because of some like
01:38:29.320 you know anti or knee-jerk reaction um andrew tate ism uh itch of the of of uh
01:38:38.520 philosophy that now takes a huge part of our past and makes it bad
01:38:47.400 yeah say it was awesome now i say that it all depends on who's trying to do it and who you're
01:38:54.200 talking to um it's not it's gay for men to do um it's a great thing for women who are gifted in it
01:39:06.040 to do what i will say is it
01:39:15.000 it is something that is hard to conceive of with a straight face because so many people who
01:39:24.440 have claimed to be adept at it are lunatics that you couldn't trust or are not serious people 1.00
01:39:32.840 or who are fat purple-haired non-binary creatures a lot of gross and silly people 0.99
01:39:49.540 have claimed to have skill at that and that is off-putting but it's a very serious thing and 0.96
01:39:58.640 you find someone who is legitimate in their practice it's a very powerful thing it is certainly
01:40:05.600 something that is embedded in our faith that was powerful to our ancestors that is a part of the
01:40:12.880 things we do and people who claim that it's evil or bad or otherwise that's silly and it's a
01:40:20.640 misrepresentation of our lord and our ancestors experience with their safe practitioners their safe
01:40:35.520 trouble is it's hard to know what to trust
01:40:40.000 like swan said there is a
01:40:42.080 a projective inflicting your will upon the world kind of magical practice that is inherently
01:40:52.560 masculine, whereas Sather is inherently receptive, is perhaps mediumistic, and is
01:41:04.120 receiving you give yourself over to being overtaken or spoken through or possessed by
01:41:13.040 or those kind of concepts and that's inherently a feminine thing
01:41:19.520 and when someone starts acting spooky and then claims that they're really the god so and so
01:41:31.780 saying something it's hard to know when to take that seriously does that ever happen yes do most
01:41:42.220 people who claim that happening are they full of are they full of it is that not true yes most of
01:41:49.120 the time and that's why it's very difficult a lot of people have given it a bad name and it's very
01:41:54.820 hard to determine what is authentic and what is not and there's not a perfect answer to that
01:42:01.780 We don't, we have yet, we've yet to develop a class of women that we can, you know, place confidence in and say, oh, these people are, you know, certified, legit, trust their, you know, safe speakings.
01:42:22.800 I think it will be wonderful when that occurs, but I don't think that we're there yet.
01:42:27.900 Other random side note, and this is not a jab at any of our folk that have second sight
01:42:38.300 or that have magical aptitude or any of our ladies that practice a form of Seder.
01:42:47.960 one of the things that is difficult is i think similar mental functionality occurs between
01:42:59.340 schizophrenia other forms of insanity and legitimate communion with the divine in a
01:43:08.340 magical way i think similar neural pathways exist similar brain chemistry exists and i
01:43:16.140 that there are overlaps to where the same phenomenon exists in the same person to where
01:43:22.700 sometimes people are crazy and touched by the gods that happens that historically has happened
01:43:30.860 and it makes it all the more difficult to know what to trust and what not to trust i have not
01:43:39.180 i don't know that i've experienced anyone who's practiced like oracular safe
01:43:51.500 in real life like i've read of occurrences but i've never witnessed that in a way that i could
01:43:58.940 certify i have interacted with people who
01:44:03.500 who see things and who perceive things
01:44:08.180 in a different way than us who can see.
01:44:14.260 It's hard to even find the right word 0.92
01:44:15.860 that doesn't sound ridiculous, 0.53
01:44:18.420 but I have experienced that in ways
01:44:20.260 that I think are absolutely 100% legitimate.
01:44:24.200 So there's things, there's an opening for it
01:44:27.460 and I would love to see it expanded upon,
01:44:29.500 but it's something that has quite a significant headwind
01:44:33.320 uh skepticism that it has to overcome um there was a question that came in i was wondering if um
01:44:43.560 we could kind of address it it's in relation to this question no about lord odin learning say
01:44:52.120 that from please go for it yeah uh so we see this a lot we also um
01:45:02.360 And, you know, speaking of directionality, but more so, people often forget that Thor and Lord Odin and Lord Thor have an exchange in which the accusation of Seder is thrown at Harbarðr, who is Lord Odin.
01:45:26.560 And Lord Odin also accuses Loki of practicing Seder. And what we kind of end up finding is, much like the term Alvar, the title itself does not always denote the intent or the level as to which it becomes negative or positive.
01:45:50.540 And, you know, I've tried to look in and see where that exactly is, you know, in Iceland, when they decided, OK, we're going to honor the gods as normal, but we will go to this Christ God on Sundays.
01:46:06.300 He went under the cloak. Would that be considered much like Seder, this kind of council beyond the veil or within the world?
01:46:18.040 um and you know it didn't deem him to be particularly uh negative so i think that
01:46:28.240 there's varying levels and that it's not so cleanly stated sometimes it's used as an insult
01:46:34.720 in the lore other times it's used as i think another point of showing that lord odin is the
01:46:42.600 dynamic lord and that he will go to any length to gain wisdom in order to save the gods and the folk
01:46:51.880 he will place his eye in the well he will synthesize himself to the circulatory system
01:46:58.280 of the universe he will go to any length and it's not just knowledge for knowledge sake no it's to
01:47:06.920 gain a better understanding to stave off Ragnarok and that is really really I think a point that's
01:47:17.080 lost that's in that sense too it could be stating he's willing to do anything other times oh you 0.81
01:47:25.200 practice this and that's kind of gay you know or and it's kind of an insult so you've got to be
01:47:31.360 careful, especially because titles in Old Norse can have variable degrees in usage, depending
01:47:37.740 on context that we might not fully understand. I say that with like Alvar, or it's very similar
01:47:46.880 to the usage of our word monster. We could say this man was a monster and did terrible things,
01:47:52.720 or we can say there's an entity that is monstrous that lives in this place. Two different things
01:47:59.080 applying to one that is physical and one that is a non-biological being it's the same word so
01:48:08.680 we have to understand that and the usage of the word in the poem what was being done uh perhaps
01:48:16.920 it's not so gravenly looked at that you're learning magic from freya but it is a graven
01:48:22.680 sense that you dressed up like a woman and learned it from troll witches on an island
01:48:29.640 that is the variant difference and so one becomes kind of a statement of
01:48:36.680 the desire to learn and the other is an insult the other thing and again you get
01:48:44.920 It, the woke crowd tries to invade all of the things and has some wild ideas.
01:48:56.240 It's important to note, just as now, gay is always a good insult for any men talking about other guys. 0.98
01:49:07.020 Like, that's gay. 0.99
01:49:09.420 Svan does a bunch of gay stuff. 1.00
01:49:11.240 Nuh-uh, you're gay. 0.99
01:49:12.320 Like, on a schoolyard level, it's a thing, because it is an instinctive go-to masculine insult to accuse other men of doing something that's effeminate. 0.99
01:49:29.160 It has always been repulsive to men of honor and good standing, and it continues to be so.
01:49:38.960 Worship is about luck.
01:49:41.080 No, I may be wrong. We don't have AFA in my country. Your worship brings you luck. If you appreciate AFA for facilitating that, why not pay them back with some luck, too?
01:49:54.020 so i saw this question when it came up in the chat and people were like well not exactly
01:50:07.720 but sort of i've been searching for the right term for this too and i know there is one but
01:50:14.280 from your like accumulated magical might
01:50:16.940 which luck is a reflection of, luck has a bearing on.
01:50:23.120 When you talk about luck, yes, sort of.
01:50:28.460 We all have a, within us, a quantity of, 0.99
01:50:39.980 so this is gay, but I'm going to say this anyway. 0.95
01:50:42.200 we all got a certain we've all got like a mana meter of like our our magical points or whatever 0.76
01:50:48.960 as you level up you get a bigger little meter that holds more mana and when you do bloat and
01:50:59.560 do this with one another you get mana potions that you refill your mana reservoir
01:51:07.500 are it's silly but in a way spiritual efficacy in a way it is apropos you have a certain bank
01:51:15.500 of spiritual efficacy that you develop through consistent right action you come into the world
01:51:21.260 with a certain amount of it with um the hymenia that's bequeathed to you from your ancestors
01:51:29.900 with your your law um and you accelerate your accumulation of it when you do
01:51:40.860 right action in a group in a ritual context
01:51:45.100 as you develop that and it displays as luck it displays as reputation and it displays as your
01:51:53.900 for what this is worth and i don't know a better way to say this
01:52:01.180 luck and first you are not wrong luck is a right word for it um but it's it's hard because
01:52:09.580 we have an english conception of what luck means um when i say your spiritual efficacy
01:52:17.980 you develop a reputation and a power and a might about yourself that displays in one way
01:52:30.400 amongst mortals and it displays in a different way beyond the veil
01:52:36.000 you shine with a certain brightness to the gods and to other beings when you are spiritually potent
01:52:44.320 your light is dim if you are just starting out or if you're you know developing that from a
01:52:51.820 from a low level and as you gain in spiritual might you become a beacon for those things
01:52:57.780 you draw the attention of the gods to you as well as other you know benevolent and malevolent
01:53:04.420 spiritual forces you have a reputation and a might about you that you can tell when somebody
01:53:12.360 enters a room if that guy's you know powerful if that guy's got something about him that that
01:53:18.840 guy's somebody if that guy's got aura as the kids say um you have that on the other side of the veil
01:53:27.960 as well so when you are doing a land taking or when you are um doing a blessing when you are
01:53:38.680 calling attention to spirits beyond the veil they recognize and see that and recognize your power
01:53:48.840 or your lack thereof and respond accordingly yes you spend that and you circulate that through
01:53:56.520 ritual and through sharing luck with people in the afa we try to adjust our speech to where we
01:54:02.680 don't wish someone good luck unless we genuinely wish to share some of our luck or extend some of
01:54:10.440 our luck to them so you know the casual like all right good luck with that no our ancestors when
01:54:16.760 they said good luck they it was a i bestow some of my luck upon you in this endeavor it's like
01:54:24.920 you're placing a bet um so yeah i don't think that your verbiage was wrong it just it doesn't
01:54:34.520 hit the english year precisely is what we're trying to say but i don't have a singular word
01:54:39.240 that's better other than making lame video game rpg references so there you have it spawn what are
01:54:46.520 your thoughts i don't think that's where you went with that i know you're and again i think it's
01:54:52.920 funny because i think you're also playing on the usage of the word uh how like saying the word gay
01:54:59.800 and and how uh the usage of it is different in different things is like this it's silly but i
01:55:05.240 think we all get it i think most people in our age group or lower get what that is even if it's
01:55:11.800 silly i think it draws a picture that people can relate to and and you know uh people in like
01:55:18.360 especially guys in in uh certain social groups like the military and stuff like that there's all 0.79
01:55:24.360 these kind of joking levels but yeah you you you painted in a in a point and we could paint it up
01:55:31.680 with words of spiritual efficacy and sharing that out and doling that out and the only problem is
01:55:38.040 is that people might not get that but then when we explain it in another way they'll totally get it
01:55:42.260 but then it somehow diminishes the gravitas of it.
01:55:45.960 But yeah, it is part of that, I think,
01:55:49.520 is that when you align yourself with the power of the gods,
01:55:55.780 you then gain this spiritual efficacy
01:56:01.760 that is a combination of the clearing out of things within yourself.
01:56:07.480 um when you start to look at the world and see the world differently that removing the fear and
01:56:15.000 the punishment or the fear of not being accepted or or whatever it may be and then you start to
01:56:21.320 live in alignment with the gods there's the welling up of luck if you will or that might
01:56:29.700 or that power or whatever that is that mana in yourself to be unblocked and dispersible into
01:56:36.900 your community and also the gods are now able to open up there's no blockage that you have between
01:56:45.620 them and the gods and so therefore you are now in the wake of their movements in orlaw and so when
01:56:56.180 you are then brought into that wake of their might and their luck and it kind of goes down to being
01:57:04.740 ousa through when you are ousa through and you are true to the gods then you are true you don't
01:57:13.220 support the ones trying to destroy them you share the fate of the gods and so therefore you look at
01:57:21.300 the importance of of the survival and the the eternal nature of what the divine and our folk
01:57:28.580 must be together, you join in that wake. And so, yeah, that it is a kind of receiving of luck,
01:57:37.120 but it's not, I pray, therefore I get luck. It's not the, I put the quarter in, therefore I get
01:57:44.680 the bag of chips or the soda. It's not a vending machine. Instead, it's, I am clearing out the
01:57:52.580 rubbish of my soul and my psychological understanding of modernity and looking at
01:58:01.340 divinity in such a strange and alien way, now that I've removed all of that, now I'm 0.53
01:58:07.340 swept up in the luck with the gods and can see it and then imbue that into those around
01:58:17.280 my community my family and it becomes not so much about yeah you need to memorize all these
01:58:26.100 scriptures and follow these rules and and get get the you know you're the the fear kind of
01:58:33.960 implant no it's none of that it's look at as i do listen to what i'm saying from the things i have
01:58:41.440 learned there's a lot going on there that ends up happening and that is where that luck
01:58:49.360 comes from is that clearing of and creating that that line that you then can now be brought up
01:58:59.560 into the totality of the luck of the gods as they move forward cosmically you move forward
01:59:05.680 in the middle world, and they're symbiotic in a way.
01:59:14.380 Matt.
01:59:17.360 Okay.
01:59:18.680 To make sure I was on the right question.
01:59:20.660 Matt, I feel lost, and I don't know if the gods would even welcome me
01:59:24.960 if I converted to ausentrity.
01:59:26.880 I'm an alcoholic and hypochondriac, living in fear and regret.
01:59:32.000 I've lied many times 0.61
01:59:34.620 I haven't done evil things
01:59:36.860 but I've certainly done terrible things
01:59:39.220 is there any redemption
01:59:40.640 or am I forever cursed
01:59:42.320 I want to be better
01:59:43.820 and I understand that I should be
01:59:45.640 and must be
01:59:46.540 so
01:59:48.700 I really hope
01:59:51.740 that you are still in the chat room
01:59:53.740 I know that you asked this question
01:59:55.360 I don't know
01:59:57.700 probably an hour ago
01:59:58.720 I'm sorry it's taken us so long to get to it
02:00:01.140 It is my job to be honest, above all, to present things honestly.
02:00:14.260 Without knowing all of your situation, it's hard to answer definitively, but I will speak generally.
02:00:22.120 if you are a heterosexual white person
02:00:29.720 then yeah you should come home to 0.97
02:00:33.220 these are your gods
02:00:36.600 and this is the faith that your soul was built for
02:00:40.620 would the gods accept you?
02:00:45.940 I don't know
02:00:47.160 it depends and it depends upon the will of the gods
02:00:51.980 I can't tell you that they would or they wouldn't.
02:00:56.240 That's up to them.
02:00:58.900 But in order to determine that, you need to make the effort and present yourself to them
02:01:06.260 and do what you can starting today to make yourself acceptable to them.
02:01:14.520 You can't go back in time and fix things or, I guess, undo things that have already been done.
02:01:21.980 The best you can do is start today attempting to repair the damage that you've caused, to what degree it's repairable, to take responsibility for wrong that you've done, and to build from here forward solidly a new foundation and to build your luck from where you are.
02:01:51.980 Perhaps that luck is at a deficit.
02:01:54.220 Sounds like it might be.
02:01:56.280 The only way to fix that is to build and fill in that deficit
02:02:03.960 and build beyond the even line and then start building worthy reputation.
02:02:11.740 finding ourselves in your position is
02:02:19.500 unpleasant something no one wants to find themselves in but it does offer you a unique
02:02:27.520 opportunity to impress the gods and your ancestors by overcoming your disadvantage
02:02:35.600 You've realized that you have now created a debt for yourself to live in such a way that you can overcome the debt that you've created and still come out worthy and still come out somebody to be celebrated.
02:02:58.280 That is a terrific undertaking and it's something to be respected if you can accomplish it.
02:03:05.600 um you are able to recognize where you're at which is a big first step is to recognize that
02:03:17.980 you're not where you want to be it's a difficult thing to recognize that you
02:03:23.760 live in a state of fear and that you have um hypochondria
02:03:29.060 your struggle is going to be to overcome that fear to the best that you're able
02:03:35.940 much like the alcoholism you will not be able to
02:03:42.100 rid yourself of it but you can keep it at bay and you can overcome it through your will
02:03:52.220 and through your dedication and through consistent effort and perseverance
02:03:55.940 those are valuable and worthwhile and celebratory things if you can do them
02:04:03.540 um you know you've done terrible things and you've lied many times 0.99
02:04:12.300 stop doing terrible things and stop lying that's i'm not making fun that sounds simple and stupid 0.99
02:04:20.160 but so many people don't know how to stop digging once they find themselves in a hole. 0.98
02:04:28.240 Stand still, stop digging, and start.
02:04:34.180 If you want to know whether the gods would accept you, present yourself before them earnestly.
02:04:41.500 Make a small offering and tell them your intention.
02:04:45.940 And maybe they find you worthy.
02:04:48.400 Maybe you work to build your worth so that you become worthy.
02:04:52.880 All of that is a worthwhile endeavor.
02:04:56.500 You have taken a step by acknowledging that that's what you should do.
02:05:03.200 You are now responsible to act on that realization that you've made.
02:05:10.860 So present yourself to the gods.
02:05:15.640 tell them that you want to be worthy
02:05:20.380 make commitments
02:05:22.480 of what you will try to do
02:05:24.520 and don't promise that you'll do something
02:05:26.200 that you can't be sure
02:05:29.200 that you will do
02:05:30.000 promise that you will try
02:05:32.600 and reach out to Svon
02:05:36.320 or myself or any of our Gothar
02:05:38.320 and we would love to help you
02:05:40.000 in rebuilding yourself
02:05:42.240 and in building the kind of fame
02:05:44.580 that we've talked about tonight, please reach out to one of us so we can talk a little bit more
02:05:51.900 about your specific situation and that we can help you move forward. And I really hope that
02:05:57.240 you hear this and that you're still in chat with us. I'm not sure, but thank you for asking.
02:06:05.100 It is good that you have realized this is something you should do. And I'm very, very hopeful
02:06:11.560 that you will try to take those steps.
02:06:14.200 And if there's any way that we can help you with that,
02:06:16.740 we would love to hear from you and see what we can do.
02:06:23.020 Austin says,
02:06:24.200 Greetings, alls, here you go from Matt,
02:06:26.020 Speckinger Swan, and Folkwilder Nick.
02:06:28.640 I hope your evening is going well.
02:06:30.560 I don't have any serious questions today,
02:06:32.700 but there are things on my mind.
02:06:34.820 First, can the alls, here you go,
02:06:36.460 if he raised his chair about six inches
02:06:38.380 so that he looks like he has moose antlers?
02:06:41.560 I cannot, but I'm going to do a thing anyway because you have requested it.
02:06:48.560 Yes.
02:06:50.560 Is this for you, Austin?
02:07:01.560 I'm going to take pictures now.
02:07:05.560 Snap pictures now.
02:07:07.560 That is only because I like you, Austin.
02:07:11.360 That's awesome.
02:07:19.880 All right.
02:07:22.340 So, next up, second, Matt versus Alex Jones in a pro wrestling belt.
02:07:33.580 Who would cut the better promo and who would leave the ring the victor?
02:07:37.560 Thanks, as always, or thanks for all you do.
02:07:45.620 Alex Jones gives an exciting promo.
02:07:49.920 It would be similar to the Ultimate Warriors.
02:07:52.120 It may not make a lot of sense.
02:07:53.880 It would be all crazy.
02:07:55.840 He's got the energy and intensity.
02:07:57.700 He would destroy me on the promo.
02:07:59.340 I'll give him that.
02:08:01.340 He talks a big game about fights he's been in.
02:08:05.000 he's scrappy I don't know he's recently gotten in pretty good shape I don't know how tall he is
02:08:13.160 I'm gonna say I would win but I'm not super confident on that I gotta root for the home
02:08:18.880 team but I think I think it would be a good bout I'm not ducking Alex Jones if if that's
02:08:25.440 what's happening you set up the match I will be there you got him by four inches
02:08:28.920 okay do we have a weight on alex jones
02:08:34.320 i don't know nick's looking that up i still i think it's i'm seeing five nine and about 240
02:08:52.900 that seems a little light to me though no because he's he's lost a lot of weight recently i buy
02:08:58.740 that. I don't know. I think it's anybody's game. I'm going to bet on myself because I have some
02:09:06.180 confidence, but in truth, I think it's coin flip. But I do think he would destroy me on promos just
02:09:11.400 because he gets crazy. He gets nuts with it, and it would be like 1990 Ultimate Warrior.
02:09:22.160 What should I say to my mechanic with a Thor's hammer? We live close to Frazhoff.
02:09:28.740 But he's kind of standoffish.
02:09:31.620 Swan, what's your advice?
02:09:36.260 I think the, you know, noticing and definitely saying, hey, is that a Mjolnir?
02:09:45.540 Because that is a great intro that can determine a lot of things.
02:09:50.820 If they look at you, you know, like you got a turd growing out of your forehead,
02:09:56.600 then they might just be wearing it because of other reasons uh my great-grandfather was
02:10:02.280 norwegian or um i really like this metal band but by saying mjolnir um and if they know immediately
02:10:12.500 that you're you're speaking of their thor's hammer that is a huge indicator and if uh you know hey
02:10:21.300 you know I like your Mjolnir is kind of nice but it doesn't instigate the conversation further
02:10:29.560 I always encourage people to say hey you're wearing a Mjolnir is there any reason are you
02:10:35.440 Ausatru and if they don't know what Ausatru is it gives you a chance to talk to them more about it
02:10:41.440 if they do know what Ausatru is it gives you you get an idea of where they're at and ultimately I
02:10:48.500 your conversation should lead to there's an ausitru temple uh in the neighborhood we you know
02:10:57.300 i've been thinking about going have you been uh if he hasn't then yeah you know i've been thinking
02:11:04.340 about going but you know i want to like we should go and check it out something like that again the
02:11:13.380 idea of conversation is really about trying to figure out where people are at and the ultimate
02:11:19.780 point is if your intentionality or if you've already been to the huff i've been there you
02:11:25.620 should come out it's awesome there's community there um you know and everyone there's wearing
02:11:33.140 mjolnir's and it's it's really you know that it really is about setting ourselves up to have
02:11:40.580 a continuation if he cuts you off that's just you know i you shouldn't take any insult to it
02:11:48.340 shouldn't ruin your day um if he doesn't know then he doesn't know but at least you have the
02:11:53.220 opportunity to to press further um but yeah i always say uh hey that's a really cool mjolnir
02:12:00.020 are are you wearing that because you're also true that's my that's my general line whenever i meet
02:12:08.420 someone cold turkey out in public and that's what starts the conversation and um yeah of course
02:12:17.140 consider timing if he's buried into someone's car and he's trying you know he stripped his knuckles
02:12:22.340 like 17 times maybe now's not the time to talk to him about it but you know so consider
02:12:28.740 timing as well but yeah that's my uh my go-to
02:12:32.980 you should shoulder check him and say some of the hammer cub you down for the set um
02:12:44.580 no what's fawn said just just see i think you can feel around for a long time trying to fish
02:12:53.300 it out but it becomes awkward and especially if they're not super talkative it becomes
02:13:00.100 obvious that you're like trying to get at something and beat around the bush you know hey i noticed
02:13:05.380 your hammer you also true huh never mind and go back to business whatever or it starts conversation
02:13:14.100 and if it does definitely tell them about phrase off um phrase off is in a really cool place
02:13:21.620 We got an inquiry from somebody who lives eight minutes away just today.
02:13:28.820 A lot of people through there. It's very accessible and it's a really amazing place.
02:13:35.700 Next question, what is Freyshof? It is our fifth Hof and it is a temple dedicated
02:13:41.940 to Freyr. Nick, can you put up those two pictures that I sent your way?
02:13:47.300 Okay. Behold, this is Phrasov, and it is located in Austintown, Ohio.
02:13:57.800 The centerpiece is a beautiful mural painted by our guest, Speckner Spahn-Herald here, who does all of our murals.
02:14:07.520 He really outdid himself on this one.
02:14:10.900 I'm not sure. I feel like the group picture there was from the dedication of Phrasov.
02:14:17.300 It's been open since December the 6th of 2025.
02:14:25.260 And yeah, that's what Frayzong is.
02:14:27.240 I'm sure somebody told him that in the chat, but I figured I would answer the question anyways.
02:14:36.060 Okay, Svon, who is your favorite musician who isn't our folk?
02:14:42.240 Oh, wow.
02:14:44.260 i did not see this one coming at all um dang
02:14:50.500 connor are you still in the chat if you are does this include vocalists or do they have to play an
02:15:00.620 instrument we'll see go ahead and answer is however you see fit um
02:15:09.560 uh i don't know the only i guess dang it i can't really like think of anyone off the top of my head
02:15:18.940 uh not because i don't or i i don't know it's just it's just not something i
02:15:27.400 well give us give us some of your favorite colored artists
02:15:30.740 um the only thing and it's so strange that this is coming up but i think it's because of the
02:15:39.920 product of my age and the time that i came in to the united states which was in the 80s
02:15:46.080 uh the only thing i can think of right now is the jazz musician or she's kind of a jazz
02:15:56.500 singer lounge is uh shade um okay i remember smooth operator when i was a kid coming in
02:16:07.300 to the united states and uh i mean i'm not a big proponent of jazz so i can't say
02:16:13.140 that that still stands but that's the first person that pops up in my mind when i think of
02:16:20.500 that definitively they are not folk and i have sang along or i kind of enjoyed it
02:16:27.940 it helped me learn english i don't know somewhere in there uh i think she has a very pretty voice
02:16:33.700 but yeah i don't really like it's i'm not a huge fan or anything now but i guess that's
02:16:40.820 the only thing i can think of that's fair that's that's legitimate um
02:16:49.700 It's hard to tell the name of a bunch, but when anybody asks what is your favorite, I do a bunch of critical thinking of trying to weigh and measure, yeah, they're good, but are they my favorite?
02:17:08.240 Now I've got to think what go-to things are as opposed to just kind of one-off stuff.
02:17:15.560 off i enjoyed motown i enjoy like temptations um enjoy gladys knight um
02:17:28.760 i enjoy sam cook first i think he's really like i enjoy his vote his voice but also
02:17:46.420 mandy and i have kind of a you know in group chuckle that we get we always say remember that 0.63
02:17:53.500 time because he ended up a hooker stole his pants and he was running around pantless raving about
02:18:01.560 the hooker who stole his pants and the uh proprietor of the hotel he stayed at shot him
02:18:06.560 to death and it is a scandalous incident that we kind of remember that time every time he comes on
02:18:13.060 and we we also do that whenever uh nxs comes on due to his um undignified passing so but i think
02:18:22.120 was full unfortunately i don't want to claim it um so yeah i think those well nick's nickel note
02:18:29.560 hootie and the who like the who is in the mongolians
02:18:37.000 oh the hhu the who uh they became popular with their throat singing metal did they get sued
02:18:43.560 i i don't think i think that's actually like they're probably bigger now than the who was
02:18:54.120 do they cover the real who do they do any covers no no they're mongolian i want to hear a throat
02:19:00.160 singing version of pinball wizard pinball with teenage wasteland i think it's also sacred cow
02:19:08.500 no one's gonna sue them simply because they're like you know a tribal ethnic that's only that's
02:19:15.300 racism in practice oh and that one that one hit wonder dude the really really fat hawaiian guy
02:19:20.660 who plays the ukulele and sings that one song is israel is yes i know that because i lived in
02:19:29.860 hawaii make a bunch of vowel noises for whatever his last name is
02:19:36.420 um yes that is is a soulful tune all right um
02:19:46.900 how do you deal with people who say oh well if jesus was so weak then how did he beat odin and
02:19:52.900 zeus and paganism basically died swan what do you say to that he didn't and paganism isn't dead
02:20:00.100 we're obviously here um that's that that that kind of conceptualization really uh speckinger east
02:20:08.580 brought up a great point or just said a quip that was super great where he said oh you know your
02:20:13.860 ancestors converted so jesus won um and you know uh it's like that's like saying for every church
02:20:20.500 that's ever been burned down you know that means that your god is has lost or what have you that
02:20:28.580 conceptualization is always one way in their minds um it never applies to them but always applies to
02:20:36.980 their opponent um there's no like kind of self uh reflection but no um again it's directionality
02:20:46.660 the trying to they have to make lord ovin a mortal in order for that to even be a conceptualization
02:20:55.740 whether it's a painting or a really nifty internet animation which i've seen um where lord ovin is
02:21:03.500 uh looking up at the rabbi and his his eye is you know burning and he he's just trembling and all
02:21:10.040 and it's like no um the mortality of the gods is the key point and uh you um the gods are not
02:21:22.920 mortal in any biological sense and that's ridiculous no in reality i believe that the
02:21:31.720 God's understood all things beyond even our scope of understanding and that the evolution,
02:21:40.440 the spiritual evolution of their children, the children of them, the folk, the Aryan soul
02:21:48.620 has gone through many stages with intentionality and understanding of what that would produce
02:21:57.300 in the future and what it has led to is us and we are not dead and we are not conquered
02:22:03.960 um it is just unfortunate that we are at the or fortunate depending on the way you look at it
02:22:09.300 that we are at the time where we have to try to beckon our people home i wish it was a great
02:22:18.060 awakening um that would happen across but that is not the case so the battle is ours
02:22:23.840 but i think it's a silly way to look at it um like they didn't get inside of a steel cage
02:22:33.420 and have some kind of triple threat that's not how that went and i say that but that's how silly
02:22:39.580 the question is and i don't blame the questioner that's the kind of thing that people say 0.88
02:22:43.420 didn't work like that white people betrayed other white people and forced them to accept
02:22:52.500 jewish fairy tales and that's not fair partially jewish fairy tales and also partially
02:23:02.400 legitimate ethnic desert god of some ethnically desert people and he tried you know various white
02:23:11.860 people inflicted that on their brothers and sisters and soul sickness took place it wasn't
02:23:18.020 like Jesus doing battle with Odin. That's not really how that worked. It was
02:23:23.940 brothers of our folk betraying their brothers and a cycle of betrayal that brought us to where we
02:23:32.860 are, unfortunately. The next question, what is the difference between a schizophrenic episode
02:23:43.240 and a genuine divine experience?
02:23:46.460 Spahn, take swing at that one.
02:23:48.660 Ooh.
02:23:50.460 I think one of the big things is
02:23:53.600 the divine experience in my experience
02:24:01.280 is that it is not so egregiously jarring.
02:24:10.020 I think that the gods work in multiple layers
02:24:13.160 to affirm relation. So one of the big things that I think schizophrenia and schizophrenics have
02:24:22.980 is the jarring nature of what they see and what they experience. And also many of them have
02:24:31.760 spoken of the things that they see are direct reflections of their mental state or their mental
02:24:39.500 perceptions and the gods end up interplaying in our lives a lot of times through synchronicity
02:24:52.540 through um multiple layers it's not just i see something no it's it's uh the timing of something
02:25:02.060 the emotional resonance that's happening between all of us at this moment. And then I look up and
02:25:11.080 I see this very normal animal flying in front of the moon. And I'm actually speaking from an
02:25:21.440 experience that I had at Odinshof. And all of these things could be interpreted benignly,
02:25:30.240 But yet the totality of them happening all at the same time and in a very organic, natural and subtle way of the way that divinity is kind of in the fabric of things is different than the schizophrenic idea in which the brain and the mental projection of things is so jarring.
02:25:58.080 It is clearly something in the mind, like a nervous breakdown, is not the norm, it's not the wholeness, it's a creation of the sharding of wholeness.
02:26:13.940 the breakage of wholeness then creates this moment and that the entirety of the being is
02:26:22.860 I must return to wholeness, return to being together because this is clearly a product of
02:26:32.980 my breaking apart. But divine experiences are the other direction. Wow, I'm doing directionalities
02:26:39.440 again um i don't know why this is a theme but again when everything is culminated with the
02:26:49.640 wholeness of the self you're in a moment where the tangibility of the divine is so palpable
02:26:56.200 that you feel at peace and at oneness with it that you are in inclined like a it's like diving
02:27:06.880 into a pool of water it's all around you and it's not something that it feels like the that that
02:27:15.120 product of jilted um mentality and oftentimes again fear is a strange thing so um i'm not
02:27:25.520 saying that it's impossible to not be afraid or have fear in the presence of the gods
02:27:30.400 but most divine moments that i have ever felt in tuned to are built around i am feeling whole
02:27:40.880 and the world and i are in one with this moment with the divine um i have been scared by the
02:27:50.840 divine but still felt whole and felt like it was a moment that i had to step up and not relent i
02:27:59.060 no i must move forward but i think that sometimes in the opposite direction when people have like
02:28:06.320 say schizophrenia and schizophrenic episodes it is a very much unknown that this is a fracturing
02:28:15.180 reflection as opposed to a wholeness and um i mean i hope that answers it's kind of
02:28:23.560 again i'm not a i'm not a doctor i'm not a a i can't so i think that this question is
02:28:34.520 has plagued mankind forever and and i really mean that with no stink on it um
02:28:44.840 it's an art not a science i don't think that there's anyone
02:28:48.200 qualified to answer that question in a in a blanket statement um i think forever miracles
02:28:59.160 have been described by the scientific community or the psychological community as a schizophrenic
02:29:08.280 episode. I think many crazy homeless people who claim miraculous occurrence are experiencing
02:29:18.600 schizophrenia and not divine blessings. And both of those things are true. And I think 0.68
02:29:25.400 there's probably an uncomfortable overlap. I think this is one of those questions that's
02:29:37.020 is so very hard to answer without the specifics it's like how do you know if a dream is meaningful
02:29:45.020 or if you just ate something spicy
02:29:50.060 sometimes it is sometimes it isn't sometimes there's a mixture sometimes you just know because
02:29:57.420 some of the dreams hit you a certain way that it's profound and others you forget as soon as you wake
02:30:03.420 up i couldn't tell you and i don't think there's a perfect way of accuracy um i think that like i
02:30:11.740 mentioned earlier in the show i believe they work on similar pathways in the brain i also think you
02:30:18.940 know hallucinations and hallucinogens do similar things chemically in the brain and it's really
02:30:27.980 hard to tell i think some miraculous interventions are very very subtle i think that others slap you
02:30:39.660 in the face and maybe multiple people experience the same thing at the same time there's some
02:30:46.540 things that are unmistakable and there are other things that you wonder and you feel like there's
02:30:51.180 a tinge of something.
02:30:55.420 Not being one that is
02:30:57.520 blessed
02:30:59.000 slash cursed in that particular way.
02:31:02.040 I don't know.
02:31:03.300 I wish I could. I say that.
02:31:05.100 I don't know that.
02:31:07.440 I wish I had the benefits
02:31:09.660 of
02:31:10.400 being more receptive
02:31:12.580 to the other side.
02:31:15.420 But I also
02:31:16.680 am glad I don't have the detriments
02:31:19.480 of the
02:31:21.660 mental illness and
02:31:26.300 mania that comes with that i do think that there are overlaps though and i think that
02:31:33.100 the circumstances surrounding it i think that the experience when explained
02:31:40.540 one of the things um
02:31:44.460 i think is a real challenge with this and i don't know if this answers the question i don't know
02:31:48.460 that there is a an answer to that question in the general sense um excuse me i don't know that they're
02:31:59.340 and we will read peace of war before we get done tonight but i'm really glad we have a
02:32:03.580 very active chat room with lots of questions that's the main reason that we do this um
02:32:09.740 Um, we have a lack of people you can talk to that will treat psychotic episodes that
02:32:27.640 may or may not be divinely inspired reasonably.
02:32:32.540 It's something that I've always tried to develop within myself is the ability to counsel
02:32:39.200 people and treat them seriously when they tell me things even if the things that they tell me seem
02:32:47.280 strange or crazy it's worth entertaining and i was um talking to one of our gothar students
02:32:57.120 earlier today about this there is a thing in our gothic counseling where
02:33:03.920 you have to be able to entertain multiple realities at once to play the you know what if game
02:33:16.560 when we have two people that come to us with a problem and each of them is telling us a different
02:33:21.680 version of events the initial thing isn't to pick a side the initial thing is also not to remain
02:33:30.800 neutral. The initial starting point, until you know different or better, is to advocate for both
02:33:39.680 of those individuals under the presupposition that what if they're right? So, hey, so-and-so,
02:33:47.360 if what you're telling me is true, this is how I would advise you. Hey, other party, what you're 0.80
02:33:55.060 telling me is true, this is what I would suggest. And through the march of time, you can find out 0.79
02:34:01.920 more than you can actually make a judgment or whatever. But being able to simultaneously
02:34:07.980 entertain the thought that one might be 100% right, the other might be 100% wrong.
02:34:15.980 The opposite may be true. They could both be right, or they could both be wrong.
02:34:22.700 entertaining all of those possibilities simultaneously one council is really hard to do
02:34:29.780 i think there's a lack of the ability to do that you talk about spiritual experience
02:34:35.700 you need to be able and i say this maybe you don't spawn and i need to be able to
02:34:46.220 consider what if this guy's telling us the truth what if this is a divine revelation
02:34:51.540 How would we treat that?
02:34:55.240 What could we learn from that?
02:34:57.300 Is that possible?
02:34:58.480 Let's entertain the thought that that's true for a second.
02:35:02.960 Okay.
02:35:04.360 Now, what if this is just you having a psychotic episode?
02:35:09.540 What does that mean and how would we deal with it?
02:35:12.320 Being able to entertain both of those things
02:35:15.060 and then massage the one or the other
02:35:19.020 towards the direction needed is kind of an art form but it requires open communication
02:35:26.620 and it requires no prejudice in the in the uh analysis like if you were if you talk to a
02:35:35.740 psychologist they it there's no you're not going to talk to the psychologist and be like no this
02:35:41.820 is odin talking to you that's not something they're going to do so they already discount
02:35:48.460 that possibility the only road open to them is how mentally ill are you and is this something
02:35:56.300 to be concerned about or not that's not doing a fair job because what if it's more than that
02:36:05.020 so it's a really hard thing or when you get with very gullible people that want it to be more
02:36:11.020 oh no this is clearly the god's talking now maybe there's an untreated mental illness that
02:36:15.900 really needs to be dealt with here so that is a very intricate thing and i don't know if anybody
02:36:27.500 ever knows a hundred percent if they get it right or wrong i think it's more you go for averages and
02:36:33.980 you hope you get it more right than you get it wrong but i think that's a very intriguing and
02:36:39.740 fascinating question that people of all faiths have struggled with for you know
02:36:47.020 before they had words for schizophrenia certainly
02:36:51.980 um question i've heard the afa now claims mcnalen received priesthood from odin himself
02:37:01.820 and now only he can transmit authentic lineage despite mcnalen's continued writings for decades
02:37:07.340 decades, not saying or teaching such. Isn't this basically a platonic noble lie fabricated
02:37:14.180 for legitimacy? A claim of exclusivity? Why was it concocted recently when McNallan has
02:37:21.780 for decades of material that can prove that it was never the idea that he had? It hurts
02:37:27.520 the AFA's credibility, especially in the face of all the good work you're undertaking. Honest
02:37:33.080 needs to be honest needs to be the foundation you're asking questions but
02:37:39.200 then you're making a judgment before you've heard the answer to the question
02:37:42.860 and I think that's a little bit unfair hear the answer before you decide on it
02:37:48.800 if you would so I'm trying to think of where to go on it I'm aware that that is
02:37:58.940 a position that some people have taken on it so
02:38:11.340 the afa has not claimed that the only authentic um transmission of lineage
02:38:17.580 comes from steven now that's just not true we have claimed that that is the authentic lineage
02:38:25.580 that we have currently that's not ever to preclude that our gods can initiate other people or that
02:38:33.980 that has happened that has certainly happened in the past it has certainly happened with
02:38:39.340 contemporaries so to speak it certainly happened with um in modern times at the very least
02:38:47.980 with uh i'll say your gothe spain bantanson um with i don't know in the same way with the
02:38:56.220 folk mother elsie christensen but certainly a degree of that with alexander rudd mills with
02:39:03.500 school with stubba um yes absolutely uh
02:39:11.180 Matter of fact, I mentioned earlier our Gothi Thorgrunn-Oden, a friend of mine who passed recently.
02:39:22.540 He was ordained at a time that the AFA was not ordaining Gothar, and he was ordained by, at the time,
02:39:30.400 Osheragothi Jorminder Inge Hansen, and Jorminder got his ordination through Spanbjorn, that
02:39:40.880 was absolutely legitimate, so I think that's overstated, but we do mention that the priesthood
02:39:50.880 that was established between the all-father and steve in 1968 is the authentic lineage
02:40:00.640 that brings us to where we are it is what we are very serious about protecting and
02:40:09.600 upholding the legitimacy of because that legitimacy really matters when every person can
02:40:17.600 claim that they're a gothi because they said so in their backyard it devalues the office of gothi
02:40:25.440 and many many of those people are not serious many of those people are not qualified to do that
02:40:33.840 we believe very much in the afa that this is the path that's blessed by the all father this is his
02:40:42.160 will that the afa establish and maintain the institution of aussitrew in midgard
02:40:50.000 sincerely believing that we have a responsibility and i personally have a responsibility
02:40:56.160 in trying to maintain the integrity of what the office and go through means
02:41:01.920 i can't go out and force people not to call themselves that that's not within my power to do
02:41:09.520 but i do have the power to choose who the afa recognizes as legitimately ordained gothar or not
02:41:16.960 not only do i have the power to do that i have a duty and a responsibility to the gods and to
02:41:22.080 the alpha and i take that very seriously it's not about trying to flex on people
02:41:27.920 it's about trying to maintain the integrity of something that i've devoted my life to
02:41:31.920 and that generations have built that i don't i can't allow to
02:41:40.400 lose credibility and to be treated really the idea about steve not claiming that
02:41:52.240 and i get what you're saying and i'm aware of of things but it's a development and i think
02:42:02.360 that that's one of the things to think about as well steve so his initiation by the all-father
02:42:11.480 in 1968 that would have meant steve was 20 years old steve is now 78 years old
02:42:20.720 he has surely advanced in his understanding of things between when he was 20 and when he was
02:42:30.060 seven many of his writings that are more you know libertarian everybody do their own thing
02:42:37.420 occurred you know in his relative youth in his 20s and his 30s
02:42:45.100 his understanding and his development has grown over time
02:42:49.960 I try to make the point of this, but at that time in the 60s and the 70s, the other lines of initiation, as I mentioned at the time through Elsie, through Sveinbjorn, through Haskell and Stubba were all very active in legitimate other options that people were doing.
02:43:13.560 He was still during that time of testing and that kind of contest to see what version of Alcetru would stand the test of time, what version of Alcetru would be successful, who could make the most of this and make this work.
02:43:28.520 That was still an open question at that time.
02:43:31.760 So, you know, certainly he didn't make that claim in his 20s or his 30s.
02:43:37.340 And I'm not suggesting that he did.
02:43:39.440 One of the things that was realized when Steve dissolved the Alistair Free Assembly in 1987 was that this everybody do their own thing thing didn't work, didn't work for our folk, doesn't work for our folk now, dilutes the mission of what we're trying to accomplish and is not what the Allfather intended.
02:44:05.060 So Steve took time away from Alistair True, traveling the world and learning and listening to the All-Father.
02:44:15.740 When he came back and founded the Alistair True Folk Assembly, it was with a very different understanding of how this needed to work and what should be different than what was original.
02:44:29.000 Steve has always been somebody who has struggled with greatness.
02:44:32.760 he never wanted to be the center of attention he never wanted to be the guy with the big hat
02:44:38.940 but the all-father chose him to be that guy and to do this great endeavor that he did
02:44:45.960 so yeah he has always downplayed his significance because he's at heart a very humble man
02:44:53.720 and there's certainly a lot to respect in that but that doesn't change the fact that we
02:45:00.940 fundamentally believe his is the ordination that has been favored with victory by the father of
02:45:08.700 victory by the all-father and by the other iser we believe that is approved of and enshrined by them
02:45:16.460 and that we are tasked with maintaining that and maintaining the integrity of that
02:45:22.300 that's fundamental to the foundations of our church we take this very seriously
02:45:26.460 I understand if you don't agree with that or if other people might not agree with that, but we do.
02:45:33.740 And to not acknowledge that and to not accept the duty that we've been tasked with is not acceptable and not something we can do.
02:45:42.240 It's not a marketing campaign. It's not to try to look good for the masses.
02:45:48.440 It's to try to execute the mission that we believe, that I believe I've been tasked with by the gods.
02:45:54.740 that's exactly what it is and that's that's all that it is
02:45:59.940 it's it's also interesting the people making that claim talk about steve's writings over the course
02:46:08.160 of time i know the man i've he's a friend of mine i've known him for
02:46:17.580 when i met him in 2010 i've known him for you know
02:46:23.980 what 16 years there's been many conversations and coming to an understanding um with steve
02:46:33.860 on the nature of a lot of things so to claim that you know you somebody read articles that
02:46:41.700 he wrote in a publication in the 70s and act as though you know who i think i am to contradict
02:46:48.840 an article from the room stone in 1985 is odd because in june we sat together at sumble
02:46:58.460 in celebration of what the afa is doing and how how things are
02:47:03.540 it's it's just an interesting thing because it's not he's not some dead you know long dead author
02:47:12.440 that we debate over his you know points that he wrote about wondering what if he's a living person
02:47:17.760 that exists and is very happy with the things the afa has accomplished um since his passing the torch
02:47:25.360 um but yeah i'm happy to answer any more questions about that but that's kind of
02:47:31.280 fundamentally where i'm coming from may i of course so i just want we've you've already
02:47:40.720 established too that we speak about the divine initiation of our holy or heroes and uh they are
02:47:48.500 represented in our artwork with the red sun and rod this initiation of um both stepping up and
02:47:57.860 being integrated in um with the divine through these initiations oftentimes standing up against
02:48:05.720 death and insurmountable odds or facing massive pressures of time and of society, all of these
02:48:17.100 things. So we've already established that we acknowledge these people to be divinely initiated
02:48:24.080 into their stations in the process of the divine. So that automatically shows that we're not
02:48:32.860 creating or fabricating some propaganda campaign that uh founder mcnaland is exclusively and only
02:48:40.300 the only one of the truth that brings and bears um the light but from him and from the position
02:48:50.140 even in particularly stories that he has said to me i have listened to him and
02:48:58.860 And there comes this point in the question that this is where it becomes venomous, or at least to me, is the concoction part, is that if Founder MacNallan tells us a story about a very powerful moment that is,
02:49:18.860 And even though he does not wish to be or to label himself to others as being of this great significance, you hear this moment and you realize there was a huge significance of it that is divine and you interpret it this way.
02:49:41.760 that's not a concoction it is looking and again he's not dead he's a living person so as you're
02:49:49.680 hearing this and you go this is divine don't don't you see it and he may say well you know i i've
02:49:57.280 tried to logically look at it this way or i can't quite explain it that doesn't mean that we have
02:50:03.840 somehow taken these divine experiences that he has physically told us and concocted a lie and
02:50:14.800 that idea of the republic you know creating these noble lies whether it's to kind of push back
02:50:22.640 against the sophists who were trying to destroy the priesthoods of greece or whether plato was
02:50:27.040 kind of playing along with them either way is totally under false pretenses the moment you
02:50:32.320 said concoction it wasn't concocted it's the interpretation of events told to us by someone who
02:50:43.680 isn't claiming and and so there we agree it's not his intention to say i am the truth and
02:50:51.760 the light of aussitrew no he's saying that these events happened and then we hear them and
02:50:58.160 And that's beyond like the material there, there is things going on here.
02:51:06.180 And then all of the events that subsequently happened thereafter lead to a chain of events.
02:51:11.140 So this is the only thing I would leave and I'll be done with it is if we believe this,
02:51:17.900 which we do, and we are lying or deceiving or creating some sort of malice or
02:51:27.620 if it's just the noble lie but still i don't think you really believe that to be noble
02:51:32.640 because of the word concoction if we continue on and we make hofs and we grow and we build and we
02:51:44.340 bring glory of the gods to midgard and we are not um somehow punished in the in the way of our life
02:51:54.220 this is built on fallacy and we continue on will you consider that to be the truth
02:52:02.700 i don't think you will but i often think that people set things up so that
02:52:09.820 if they disagree with something and and their their opponent or person that they're targeting
02:52:16.380 or trying to weaponize their words at somehow falters they will use it to weaponize it but
02:52:21.660 if they don't falter and they do succeed and they do continue on very rarely will they say
02:52:28.380 i was wrong it's not built on fallacy i am now a believer as they are so i don't think this is an
02:52:35.740 even exchange so well i know where it comes from um the norena society put out a piece on it a while
02:52:43.900 ago and i believe that's exactly where the question comes from um but what i find with
02:52:52.300 other would-be also true leaders is a lack of belief in divinity and a lack of understanding
02:53:01.260 or embracing that this is a field and living faith that it's not a recreation of what our
02:53:09.740 ancestors did it is an authentic doing of this faith today
02:53:20.540 we really believe that odin spoke to steve mcnallon and tasked him with this mission of
02:53:27.740 building house true we really believe that odin and the and the isere approve of the
02:53:34.780 the house of true focus in. I really believe with all of my heart that the Aesir have blessed me
02:53:42.720 being in the position that I am in and have tasked me with the duty of building and maintaining this
02:53:54.540 to the very best of my ability and have given the authority to do so. I understand it's a bold claim,
02:54:01.460 But if you're a religious leader and you don't believe that your gods approve of you and your position, then what are you doing?
02:54:11.040 You're doing something wrong.
02:54:13.840 I understand that other people don't make those claims and I wouldn't want anyone to make those claims falsely.
02:54:23.160 But if we don't believe that the gods do bless us or do direct us in our course in some way, then what are we doing here?
02:54:34.780 This is a real faith.
02:54:37.040 And I know that our gods have blessed the Ossetree Folk Assembly.
02:54:40.900 I know that they have set Steve McNallan on his course.
02:54:44.180 and i know that they have tasked me with the duty of upholding building and maintaining this
02:54:50.680 in accordance with their will to the very best of my understanding and that's exactly what we're
02:54:56.020 doing if there's any concoction of it it's the very best of my understanding of the will of my seer
02:55:04.340 um but it's authentic and it comes from a very authentic place and it absolutely reflects the
02:55:13.860 reality as I know it and as I have learned from my, you know, years of friendship and
02:55:23.140 personal interaction with Steve McAllen. One of the things as a note on, you know, Steve
02:55:30.200 isn't just some guy who really is interacted with by Oden comes, uh, comes from his detractors.
02:55:37.300 It was really poignant to me that even the people that hate Steve, the universalists,
02:55:42.560 um from years ago that have kind of gone into irrelevancy they would scoff that like well i
02:55:50.140 guess odin just works with whoever he needs to to get his you know get his mission accomplished
02:55:54.500 and they say it off the cuff but they don't realize the profound importance of that
02:56:00.040 even though you hate steve you are acknowledging that the all-father has chosen to work in
02:56:09.600 cooperation with a mortal to accomplish aussitrew and that mortal is speaking now that is very
02:56:19.520 significant it's meaningful um in the peace by norena society they don't talk about the will
02:56:25.440 of the gods they don't talk about their deeply held beliefs about the gods and their will
02:56:33.200 it's a book report about runestone articles that steve's written
02:56:39.600 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years ago, and not a real thing about discussions that they've had with the real people who are making these decisions and who've lived the things that they're, you know, reading writings about as if it's some sterile, ancient subject matter.
02:57:00.460 I don't think that's very authentic, but I'm happy to talk to anybody about it that has questions or that wants to talk to me about it.
02:57:11.020 Vril, how about in Volsung's saga, Odin put a sword in a tree, which was in the family's
02:57:27.340 hall? The tree is the family line. What's the sword? Spahn, you were talking about this. Do
02:57:35.360 you want to share your thoughts on that? Yeah, no, I just made mention of the word
02:57:40.060 vril and virilis and um how it it kind of came about encouraging people to look up the etymology
02:57:46.220 of it and how it does go back to a proto-indo-european or ancient arian word for pursuing
02:57:53.180 like as in hunting or the i guess the virility of of the masculine in the tribe um and i find
02:57:59.660 that very very interesting because my the point i was making was the pursuant um the might to pursue
02:58:09.580 and that I feel that the gods in looking in history, again, if I perceive things and believe
02:58:17.880 things, apparently it might be a concocted lie. We can't perceive and interpret and believe things
02:58:26.140 anymore because it could be concocted. I'm sorry, that was just dubious about the idea of that not
02:58:33.320 being honest so as i look at history and i see things and then i interpret and believe the way
02:58:42.360 i uh that the gods are working in the world i have seen this in many levels in which there is
02:58:51.740 a purposely uh divisive moment a threshold a call to pursuant when lord odin comes into the hall and
02:59:02.620 he places the sword into the tree that is not just a tuesday that is a call and they immediately
02:59:11.440 stand up and all are trying to pull it out that is a call of spiritual might but it's not the try
02:59:20.200 as you might kind of thing it is the totality of knowing where it's going to go so the one who is
02:59:27.260 going to pull out the the sword it is already known in in in the the uh great knowledge of
02:59:37.760 lord ovin i commend all of those who immediately jumped the tables to to rush across the the dirt
02:59:45.360 floor jumping over the fire pit to get to that sword to be the one to pull it out i commend them
02:59:50.620 because that is true thrill but it was determined beyond that this is bigger and it is again
02:59:58.180 often the way the gods work i think that even for the european folk as we were talking earlier
03:00:06.440 about christianity and uh the turning the the folk that had turned against their gods and
03:00:13.820 against their fellow kinsmen um you know that these these things are built in order to build
03:00:22.600 a threshold that must be returned to that must be uh distilled down into so all of these things
03:00:31.260 are the machinations of the gods and i think is really cool that you were you drew the idea of
03:00:38.140 The family tree and the sword and this kind of implementation of destiny and this call to heroism and also a double edged sense of both gaining fame and notoriety, but on the other edges, what will be lost?
03:00:58.860 so there is much to that in all of that of the mythos that can be interpreted truthfully as how
03:01:07.600 the gods do interact in our world and um i think that's i just i think it's really cool that you
03:01:15.240 went there with the family line and yes we can look at it in that direction but i think it also
03:01:20.360 speaks more to about the way that gods do intercede and give blessing. They are real,
03:01:27.880 they are willful, and they do enact. And we must heed those calls when the sword is placed.
03:01:37.300 I think that's huge. So from your question specifically, though, the family tree and
03:01:49.180 the calling of the Volsungas. I don't know if this would be, the sword would be a moment of
03:01:56.060 declaring this kind of ascension to fame, the attainment of the kingdom, but the fame with
03:02:06.320 price of loss. It could all, I think it could all be kind of viewed as that, but still the divine
03:02:13.440 enactment of placing that blade is very analogous to the way i think the gods work uh both you know
03:02:22.640 you could say of the european people in their hall lord othen has placed a sword in the tree
03:02:29.680 who shall rise to that call and things like that so you can apply that in many different ways
03:02:35.120 you mentioned sung galder in one of your recent streams what are some examples of that i want to
03:02:45.280 prostrate myself before the gods this is important so
03:02:56.480 sung gold
03:02:57.600 um depends everybody does a little bit different some people have different cadences to me
03:03:07.440 galder work
03:03:10.720 a lot of the power of it to me is the long vowel sound resonance that you get from it and if you do
03:03:21.520 it long enough it kind of intones itself and your conscious mind can break from the automatic noises
03:03:31.040 that you're making and free itself to commune with the gods in a special way when you galder
03:03:40.080 you can invoke the power of a rune for whatever your purpose is to harmonize around a concept
03:03:47.440 to embed a intention or to put a certain energy or an effect into the world
03:03:57.680 often i will do just one room but most often i will do a three room galder
03:04:06.000 i drew three rooms now because i want to give you an example of what it's like i
03:04:10.160 know that some people feel silly or may not know. I drew Nouthis, Raido, and Urus. So this is how I
03:04:21.680 I would do that call her.
03:04:24.300 Now
03:04:25.080 these
03:04:27.340 writers
03:04:41.020 who
03:04:41.680 knows
03:04:49.120 now 1.00
03:04:51.400 All these rylos 1.00
03:05:05.400 All these rylos 1.00
03:05:16.400 Now, the years are I low.
03:05:36.380 Alan thinks I do it too dirgefully. He likes a more sing-songy galder. Again, there's a lot of
03:05:57.340 right ways to do it, depending on your intention, depending on what works for you.
03:06:01.480 Alan's just wrong
03:06:03.200 theirs is even worse
03:06:05.780 they do theirs off cadence
03:06:07.160 so
03:06:09.280 I appreciate
03:06:11.720 purists like the way I do it
03:06:13.800 but again especially if you're
03:06:15.960 doing it yourself
03:06:17.860 in front of your altar
03:06:19.080 a way that resonates with you
03:06:21.560 but that's how I do it
03:06:23.660 that's an example of it
03:06:25.200 and I hope that's helpful too
03:06:26.820 what is the next big event
03:06:31.040 or I guess holiday for the AFA. Einherjablot. We are celebrating the big Einherjablot here at
03:06:41.200 Sigurheim in Jackson County, Jackson County, Tennessee on November the 13th through the 15th.
03:06:49.000 It's coming up quick. We'd love to see you guys there. It is at our 70-something acres that we
03:06:55.180 have that we will eventually build tiershoff on and the afa capital on and i'm looking forward
03:07:02.620 to that it's going to be awesome the following weekend it will be observed at each of our five
03:07:08.380 hoffs so if you can make that it is a celebration of the einherjar or the chosen warriors that
03:07:16.780 are entertained and feasted at the all fathers table in the old father's hall
03:07:22.460 So, got that going on.
03:07:26.560 Nick has pointed out, and it's worth reiterating at this juncture, Sigurheim is in, put the
03:07:32.900 map back up if you would, is made, goes on in Jackson County, Tennessee.
03:07:41.180 Our first Hoth, Odenshoth, is in Brownsville, California.
03:07:46.180 second Hoth, Thor's Hoth, is in Linden, North Carolina. Our third Hoth, Baldur's Hoth, is in
03:07:55.200 Murdoch, Minnesota. Our fourth Hoth, New York's Hoth, is in White Springs, Florida. And now our
03:08:02.640 fifth Hoth, Frey's Hoth, is in Austintown, Ohio. We celebrate our major holidays on the third
03:08:12.340 saturday of each month at each of our hafs we would love to see you guys there 0.73
03:08:18.080 um do y'all have white enclaves i'm from michigan and i'm ready to get uh out of this 0.99
03:08:29.120 islamic invasion we need a militia or a defensive fortress somewhere put the map back up if you 0.82
03:08:37.640 would so yes in a way no we do not have an armed compound we do not have fortifications nor 1.00
03:08:46.120 militias in all honesty i don't think that's a practical alternative in the world we do have
03:08:53.880 is community that we are trying to build in jackson county tennessee come here move to my town
03:09:01.480 do this with Nick and those that will move here to join us we are trying to build a community
03:09:08.500 here in Gainesboro, Tennessee. We are trying to build within this county of Jackson County
03:09:14.620 so that we can have a community of our folk of our faith who can worship and celebrate
03:09:22.960 at Tears Hall from the AFA Capitol. If Tennessee is not to your liking or not something you can do
03:09:30.540 move close to one of our Hoffs. We have five options to choose from in the United States
03:09:36.300 right now with more to come, but we would all be made stronger and life and our practice would 1.00
03:09:43.900 accelerate markedly if we could get everyone to move to the county that these Hoffs are in.
03:09:50.380 Please consider doing that. I'm doing some research right now and again I'm new but isn't
03:09:58.300 breaking an oath seen as a really bad thing but based on what i'm reading it seems odin broke
03:10:05.100 oaths breaking oaths is absolutely a really bad thing there's a couple of notes and i know that
03:10:11.820 spawn wants to get into this but when you read in the lore whenever oaths are broken or
03:10:20.380 oaths are not carried through to the expected result
03:10:23.980 there's still a power to the oath like the gods don't just like and we're just going to break the
03:10:32.460 oath there is no they have to trick things to where they technically fulfill the requirements
03:10:38.300 or will they where they technically cause something to happen like with the construction
03:10:43.980 of the wall around um asgard to where they have to technically fulfill the you know you can't build
03:10:52.220 this within the allotted time because your horse is off making baby horses um there's there's still
03:11:02.220 like a no and oath serious thing so you have to find something around it not that that's you know
03:11:08.160 optimal it's certainly not but our lord does talk about how no there's the compelling like
03:11:13.280 you have to do the thing uh i noticed in the chat with tear with his hand no there's a pledge
03:11:20.120 There's a
03:11:20.880 If we bind you
03:11:24.120 And trick you here 1.00
03:11:25.140 You can eat my hand 0.96
03:11:27.060 Okay we tricked you 0.96
03:11:29.780 Eat my hand
03:11:31.900 There's the price
03:11:33.360 The agreed upon price to defaulting
03:11:35.740 And that price was paid
03:11:37.920 Which squared that debt
03:11:39.300 You had to pay a consequence
03:11:41.640 But it was a consequence
03:11:43.640 You were willing to pay to protect 0.90
03:11:45.180 Gods and men 0.62
03:11:46.920 But Spahn you had stuff
03:11:49.700 that you wanted to say on this so go for it you are muted
03:11:58.900 i wonder where this comes from sometimes there is this kind of modern uh take i think it's
03:12:04.740 all it's it borders on like defaming the gods but uh it's interesting i think from
03:12:14.260 our ancestors perspective there is the duality of this situation for instance the i believe
03:12:24.820 there's three oaths that most people focus in on with lord odin and there's another one
03:12:29.940 uh a surprise uh proclamation of oath breaking that i'll bring up to kind of send it home but
03:12:37.220 the three that they're that they're mainly uh referring to is the oath towards the building of
03:12:43.220 the walls uh or the builder and um then there is the oath to uh gunloaf and then there is the oath
03:12:52.020 to fenrir so the the first one is under false pretenses in the beginning the oath is made to
03:13:01.620 the builder but the builder is already lying to the gods i think that's kind of the point of
03:13:08.820 the oath-breaking or well again is it oath-breaking and the the questionability of it is what makes it
03:13:16.260 entertaining to our ancestors at the same time if you have the wisdom to see then it becomes clear
03:13:25.460 and that is he comes from jotunheim through midgarth up him and bjerker up the heavenly
03:13:32.820 mountains into the land of the gods and he says i can build your wall and he is clearly not who he
03:13:41.380 presents himself to be so the oath going in on false pretenses gets twisted on him and in essence
03:13:50.500 his trickery gets he gets tricked back and that's the point of that balance um
03:13:56.660 um the uh of gunlov so the sequence of it ultimately is about the attainment of that
03:14:07.600 which came from lord odin and the rest of the gods to begin with which was the blood of kvasir
03:14:17.360 Kvasir is the creation of the gods. He is then murdered, transmuted, and then hidden away, and the gods owned Kvasir as their creation.
03:14:32.260 So Lord Odin, being the furious one, did everything he needed to do to attain that which was rightfully his to begin with.
03:14:42.280 But people don't always see this because there's so many degrees of separation.
03:14:47.360 And that, they will point out Gunloth, but kind of not look at the death of the harvesters of wheat in the story as well.
03:15:02.040 And that is, again, layering this conceptualization that the wisdom and the storyteller of the gods, the one who has brought the stories of the gods to the folk, he is then taken by earthly powers, the Svartalf, and then removed and taken into Jotunheim.
03:15:22.220 And Lordo then stops at nothing to get him and bring him back.
03:15:27.960 So there is that kind of notion of, is there an oath being broken when you are attaining that which was already three degrees stolen from you?
03:15:39.300 You know, like, do you have to honor the oath of the third thief because the first thief is already dead?
03:15:45.020 Like, but they still, they stole it from you.
03:15:48.440 And they all throughout the story know that the gods would be upset because this is theirs.
03:15:53.960 He is the symbol and the emblem of the peace between the gods of the earth and the gods of the sky.
03:16:02.960 Klaasir is that gifting, so they knew that's why they hid it.
03:16:08.420 There's that.
03:16:09.840 Then lastly, as Alciar Gothi pointed out, the pledging.
03:16:14.060 The ultimate sacrifice of the god Lord Tyr to give up his sword hand, and I would argue his sword that is in the mouth of Fenris, which a lot of people do forget about, but Snorty doesn't name it as Tyr's sword, and he doesn't name the sword, but it is just mentioned that the sword is placed in his mouth, and the Lord Tyr feeds him one last time with his hand.
03:16:41.620 This is the ultimate form of actually fulfilling the obligation of an oath or a wereguild despite the outcome.
03:16:56.600 And I would also argue that it was noted that Fenrir was already in motion of wanting to consume those who had taken him in when he was a pup.
03:17:11.620 So he was growing and metastasized beyond the point of being fed by these.
03:17:18.220 And so the idea of eating the hand that feeds him has a deeper resonant meaning that would cast, I think, shadow on Fenris as well.
03:17:28.940 But people don't look at it that way.
03:17:30.980 The last one is some people will say that Thor broke his oath to Alvis.
03:17:35.420 that's the that's kind of where i i'm going with the idea that they're it's disparaging the gods
03:17:43.280 in this story he says you can marry my daughter if you answer these questions
03:17:49.340 he doesn't answer these questions because he gets turned to stone by the sun but not because
03:17:55.940 lord thor is evil or mean it's because he knew of alvis's hubris alvis means all wives he knew that
03:18:04.940 one people think that lord thor is dumb and he is not he is the deep-minded one he knew that alvis 0.51
03:18:11.200 would think he's dumb and then he used his hubris against him but yet still people consider that to 0.58
03:18:18.100 be an oath being broken so when you hear that claim i would implore to well one you ask which
03:18:26.600 is great ask around ask for other people's interpretations of these situations because
03:18:31.780 if we just simply believe you know somebody wrote an article about oh when you know this god lied
03:18:37.400 three times and and so on and so forth but also too these mythical stories show great semblance
03:18:46.100 of balance and again if we are talking about contextualizing cosmic forces that gets even
03:18:52.900 bigger but here in the material between men and men like physical blooded men and men uh
03:18:58.980 society and folk no othing is bad but it also warns you don't go into an oath with false
03:19:06.460 pretenses don't go into an oath with the stack already in your favor and then be mad when they
03:19:16.400 switch it to make it in their favor you came into the oath stacking it and then get mad when they
03:19:24.960 figure out a way to stack it back and you're doing the same that's the message of the othing in those
03:19:32.120 stories so for matt how did your years of bouncing prepare you for your current role so
03:19:43.660 bouncing is awesome because I can talk about cool stories of battling Samoans and getting in fights
03:19:56.320 and whooping up on people and whatever else. But all of that is, I don't know, all that's fun and 1.00
03:20:03.940 whatever, but the real things about it that prepared me a lot. I went from somebody who was
03:20:12.800 lame and who I didn't participate in life. And I resolved that I was going to, I was going to
03:20:22.500 quickly level up my ability to participate in life. And I started going to the gym and I started
03:20:32.020 training and i was going to bounce i had an illness i had some stuff go on and i couldn't
03:20:37.380 do that for a few years and as soon as i got back on my feet i'm like you know what i'm gonna do
03:20:41.140 this i'm gonna find the roughest club in town i'm gonna bounce there and school of hard knocks i'm
03:20:47.860 gonna get it figured out i've never been in a fight when i was a loser you know high school
03:20:52.500 or whatever else didn't have a lot of friends i didn't participate in stuff i was an observer of
03:20:57.220 life rather than a participant and i was going to fix that so you know any of those awesome fights
03:21:06.580 and cool things it's because i had a team of 13 men around me that were able to help me show me
03:21:15.380 the ropes i was able to learn things very quickly with those guys helping me out and
03:21:23.620 And it wasn't about, you know, fights.
03:21:27.580 It was about I was able to develop self-confidence and develop the ability to deal with all kind of different people going through all kinds of different things.
03:21:38.180 Some of the most meaningful bouncing experiences I ever had were helping people who were scared or distressed or having a rough time to have a better night, to avoid a bad situation, to get out of a dangerous situation, to avoid having to go to jail or to avoid having to get in trouble by being able to talk them through things.
03:22:04.520 I was able to deal with all kind of different people.
03:22:08.560 The place I bounced at, world-famous Chilkoot Charlie's in Anchorage, Alaska had allegedly 10 bars in it.
03:22:18.720 They had a lot of little stations that were very rarely open.
03:22:21.960 They'd count those, but it had several different bars inside.
03:22:25.680 It had three different dance floors.
03:22:27.580 And because Anchorage is kind of a crossroads to anything in Asia or the Pacific, but it also is adjacent to Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, it had Blacks, it had what few Hispanics in Anchorage we had.
03:22:47.560 It had Koreans. It had, you know, Hawaiians and Samoans and Tongans. It had, you know, Alaska Natives. It had, you know, of course, it had white people. It had military folks. It had people from a lot of different walks of life.
03:23:07.560 I was able to learn how to interact with people with radically different life experiences
03:23:14.660 in stressful and chaotic circumstances. I was able to be comfortable in chaos as best I could.
03:23:24.520 It exposed me to a lot of things to where I was able to just advance maturity in dealing with
03:23:33.240 people i was able to deal with people who were very mentally ill there were a lot of homeless
03:23:39.000 that we would end up dealing with there there were people who had various mental illness
03:23:44.200 there were certainly people on all manner of drugs and people who were very drunk and people
03:23:50.200 who were angry people who were going through a rough time in their life and people who were in
03:23:55.480 gangs and people who were in biker gangs and people who were veterans dealing with things
03:24:03.840 and college kids and everything in between and i was able to help people i was in a spot that i was
03:24:12.900 able to make sure that vulnerable women or people in who were scared or in a bad spot got in a cab
03:24:20.180 got a safe ride home i was able to uh protect people when other people got violent i was able to
03:24:29.700 talk down people who were going through a mental health crisis and i was able to do all that with
03:24:36.020 a team of other men that were relying on me and that i was relying on and i learned a lot
03:24:42.980 the biggest thing that i think helped me in dealing with the afa is i got to deal with
03:24:48.740 people who were in crisis and i got to find comfort and learn how to talk to people when
03:24:55.700 they were going through something that was scary or out of my comfort zone or something that i've
03:25:02.500 never experienced i was able to learn how to be calm when talking to them and make them feel like
03:25:11.140 their life was better by talking to me when they were going through a crisis rather than worse
03:25:16.260 You know, I could help smooth it over and make sure they had a good night as opposed to letting bad things happen to them or, you know, whatever else.
03:25:28.360 And it helped me a lot with counseling when I'm dealing with people that have different life experience or maybe, you know, again, whatever that might look like, be it veterans, be it people with an alcohol problem, be it with people going through a psychotic episode.
03:25:43.420 I've encountered all of those things being a go-through and I'm able to
03:25:48.940 help them work through different things because of my bouncing experience and because of
03:25:56.280 the lessons that I learned there. I'm so grateful I had that opportunity. It's
03:26:00.480 a really special thing and I'm very fortunate that I had that in my life, but
03:26:05.500 I think those are the ways that it helped. Could I speak on one thing about all of that too?
03:26:11.940 because i i think it's pertinent to of course you can well you know uh what you're speaking of
03:26:20.340 is a transformation and a threshold in which you have experienced in your life that has importance
03:26:28.340 um mine was the military and for everyone everywhere every man goes through this
03:26:35.620 transformative stage where he has to encounter uh situations where he ends up finding his true
03:26:42.660 self and what he can become and um i was watching some he's a content creator i think his name is
03:26:51.300 the great dane he was talking about a store shop owner standing in front of his shop and there's
03:26:59.140 this uh picture of a dragon ball z character and he says you know despite everybody kind of laughing
03:27:05.860 and joking this guy stood up at the one moment where he kind of embodies a hero and becomes
03:27:13.140 who he knows he can become in the moment when he's got foreigners tearing and and invaders
03:27:19.220 ripping down his shop and he stands and says no i'm not gonna run i'm not gonna hide i'm gonna be
03:27:24.260 there and so your those transformations that you felt are that but also molded over again being in
03:27:33.140 long periods of time instead of even just one incremental moment and you'll find people will
03:27:40.100 try to classify these transformations as being legitimate or not i guess like kind of like that
03:27:47.140 previous question is that you know it's it's not legitimate but it no it's the it has no relevance
03:27:54.660 on the the person who's living in the basement saying it's illegitimate or not it is 100
03:28:01.780 legitimate through every moment that shaped you to be who you are
03:28:06.900 and it happens for all of us in very different ways whether it's again uh like you said working
03:28:16.020 in a in a being a bouncer or uh being a fireman or um uh caretaking for so you know you end up
03:28:25.620 finding yourself in these moments of passing through that threshold and becoming a person
03:28:31.460 you weren't when you entered and that formulates you and makes you who you are and that is i think
03:28:39.220 truly truly important and anybody that says that somehow that's illegitimate is
03:28:48.900 deeply flawed in their own uh nature but yeah all right so i'm white and 26. i have a dream
03:29:00.020 of moving to maine or new hampshire i'd like to build a strong house out of high quality materials
03:29:07.220 so it lasts hundreds of years, find a wife, have kids, and pass on the house and the land to my
03:29:14.040 kids. I've also always been a decent artist, so I think I'd like to carve slash sculpt a statue
03:29:22.460 for one of the gods, and also have that last for hundreds of years, and complete offerings.
03:29:30.400 Do you think that would be honorable or cringe, or is it just a pipe dream? And I believe this is
03:29:36.040 the one who asked us about um you know being worthy to the gods um whether cringe or not
03:29:44.680 depends on your artistic ability um honestly on uh on the statue but no those are beautiful
03:29:51.640 dreams i think that's awesome we'd love to see you achieve that um i mean statues of the gods
03:30:00.760 are really powerful and really cool things we'd love to have some large size statues of the gods
03:30:06.600 existing um but even smaller ones uh for altars uh one of our members made a beautiful statue
03:30:14.200 of lord frere for phrasehoff um you know about
03:30:20.760 i don't know what two and a half three foot high something like that and it's excellent
03:30:26.680 so i think that's a great thing for you to want to do um we have a thriving community right now
03:30:35.320 in new hampshire if that's something you want to do get to new hampshire um folk builder ron
03:30:41.560 bordman is there building amazing things he's a fantastic guy um and yeah get up to new hampshire
03:30:51.240 do that i think that would be a great thing and i would really encourage you in that swan what
03:30:56.360 what say you i think that's awesome the epicness of it the hundred years stating that and i think
03:31:03.160 that uh to lend to some of the wisdom you've spoken about before is that that epicness is
03:31:09.960 awesome and so you should be concerned with the way people perceive you but don't worry about
03:31:16.920 if they think it's cringe or not instead worry about completing it making it happen doing it
03:31:24.440 and then it doesn't the people that think it's cringe they don't matter you did it uh and and
03:31:32.040 that's the key so that epic nature and that desire of heroism that desire to be seen as an accomplisher
03:31:41.560 of an epic uh desire and proclamation in the horizon is huge and i think all of that involves
03:31:50.760 you again going joining the the there's a community in new hampshire there are people there
03:31:57.480 and you can do all of these things i believe that you can do it and that would be if a hundred years
03:32:04.280 from now somebody can snippet that question and be like see this statue this was talked about
03:32:12.600 and you know what that would put you in the highest leagues that's the kind of heroism i
03:32:20.120 think that god's noticed that's the kind of things we need in people but the biggest point is to if
03:32:27.160 you set your mind to it don't worry about the cringe but do it join the community join the afa
03:32:33.880 go out there and i believe that the gods once you declutter that um any interference between
03:32:40.520 you and the gods the wake that they carry you in will lead you down the path and who knows
03:32:45.400 that might be a family a home but it all starts with you just kind of setting your eyes to the
03:32:52.680 horizon and it sounds really cool sounds like you've done it or you're there to do big things
03:32:57.720 I mean, more people willing to try big things.
03:33:01.720 No, but absolutely, you should go for it.
03:33:04.720 And now, three and a half hours in, I will read for you,
03:33:10.720 Solar Kinninger, Kinning's for the sun.
03:33:14.720 How should one paraphrase the sun?
03:33:17.720 By calling her daughter of Mundafari, sister of the moon,
03:33:21.720 wife of glenner fire of heaven and of the air even as schooly thorstein's son sang glenner's
03:33:31.960 gold-life bedmate waited into the goddess's mansion with rays then the good light cometh
03:33:39.080 of gray sarked maunu downward thus sang aenar schulason where so the lofty flickering flame
03:33:47.960 of the world's hall swimmer,
03:33:50.180 or the loved friend
03:33:52.340 who hath
03:33:54.180 and lavished the seagull. 0.95
03:34:01.800 Vence Kenningyard.
03:34:04.120 Kenning's for the wind.
03:34:06.300 How should the wind be paraphrased?
03:34:08.820 Thus,
03:34:09.960 call it the son of 0.97
03:34:11.460 Fornilpher,
03:34:13.500 brother of the sea and of fire.
03:34:15.600 scape, or ruin, or hound, or wolf, of the wood, or of the sail, or of the rigging, thus spake
03:34:24.660 Sven in the Norder Setu Draupa, first begin to fly, Fjolnir's sons ill-shaven.
03:34:34.960 Eltskinninger, kinnings for fire. 0.93
03:34:41.560 How should one paraphrase fire?
03:34:43.740 Thus, call it brother of the wind and the sea,
03:34:47.400 ruin and destruction of wood and of houses.
03:34:51.180 Helther's bane, son of houses.
03:34:59.460 Vetrarkinninger, kinnings for winter.
03:35:04.960 How should winter be paraphrased?
03:35:07.680 Thus, call it son of Winsfowler,
03:35:11.500 destruction of serpents, tempest season,
03:35:15.800 thus sang Orrner Stenthorsen.
03:35:20.140 To the blind man I proffer this blessing,
03:35:24.460 Winsfowler's son, thus sang Ausgriner,
03:35:30.060 the warlike spoil bestower, lavish of wealth,
03:35:34.960 that winter snakes woe in Thrawnheim's tarry the folk knew thy true action
03:35:46.320 summer summer kenning good kennings for summer how should one paraphrase summer thus call it
03:35:54.480 Son of Svausul, and comfort of serpents, and growth of men, even as Aeol Scalagramson sang.
03:36:05.180 We shall wave our swords, or dire, of wolf's teeth, and make them glitter. 0.68
03:36:11.480 A deed we have for wrecking in the comfort of dale serpents.
03:36:24.480 all right then we're going to finish out this page
03:36:35.300 man kenninger och kwen kenninger kennings for man and for woman
03:36:45.900 how should man be paraphrased by his works by that which he gives or receives or does
03:36:53.720 He may also be paraphrased in terms of his property, those things which he possesses, and if he be liberal of his liberality, likewise in terms of the families from which he descended, as well as those of which have sprung from him.
03:37:13.480 How is one to paraphrase him in terms of these things? Thus, by calling him accomplisher or performer of his goings and his conduct, of his battles, or sea voyages, or huntings, or weapons, or ships.
03:37:29.800 And because he is a tester of weapons and a winner of battles, the words for winner and would being the same, as are also those for tester and rowing.
03:37:42.740 Therefore, these phrases skulls have called men, or man, ash, or maple, grove, or other
03:37:51.240 masculine tree names, and have paraphrased him in such expressions in terms of battles
03:37:58.760 or ships or possessions.
03:38:00.320 It is also correct to paraphrase man with all the names of the Aesir, also with giant
03:38:07.080 terms, and thus last is for the most part for mocking or libelous purposes.
03:38:14.580 Paraphrases with the names of elves is held to be favorable.
03:38:20.820 Woman should be paraphrased with reference to all male garments, gold and jewels, ale
03:38:27.860 or wine or any other drink, or to that which she dispenses or gives, likewise with reference
03:38:34.840 to ale vessels and to all those things which it becomes her to perform or to give it is correct
03:38:42.520 to prayer paraphrase her thus by calling her giver or user of that of which she partakes
03:38:49.960 but the word for giver and user are also the names of trees therefore woman is called in metaphorical
03:38:56.120 speech by all feminine tree names woman is paraphrased with reference to jewels or agates 0.98
03:39:04.360 from for this reason in heathen times what was called a stone necklace which they wore about
03:39:11.640 the neck was a part of a woman's apparel now it is used figuratively such a way as to paraphrase
03:39:18.520 a woman with stones and all names of stones woman is also metaphorically called by the names of the
03:39:25.960 our senior or the uh valkators or nor are norris or women of supernatural kind
03:39:34.120 it is correct to paraphrase woman in terms of all her conduct or property or family
03:39:43.960 the norris part is a uh mistype on the uh old north side it's it's it's nor near i think yeah
03:39:53.720 I was confused.
03:39:54.960 I'm glad you were able to find that.
03:39:56.080 I was looking up.
03:39:58.960 This is the value of trying to learn a little bit of the Old Norse,
03:40:03.140 as you can pick up when stuff is funky.
03:40:08.900 Goldskininger.
03:40:10.160 Kinning's for gold.
03:40:12.120 How should gold be paraphrased?
03:40:14.760 Thus, by calling it aeir's fire and needles of glassy,
03:40:20.780 hair of Sif, snood of Fula, Freyja's tears, talk and voice and word of giants,
03:40:32.740 droughtmere's drop and rain, or shower of droughtmere, or of Freyja's eyes,
03:40:41.260 otter's ransom, forced payment of the Isir, seed of Fir'a's plain,
03:40:50.780 Cairn roof of Pohodlugi, fire of all the waters and of the hand, stone and reef or the lean of the hand. 0.95
03:41:05.920 All right.
03:41:07.620 So I wanted to knock out a few there.
03:41:10.780 We do have more to this poem.
03:41:15.080 um i'm really happy that we've had such an active chat room and so many people actively involved
03:41:22.600 in discussions tonight that is really cool and i think we've had some really good questions
03:41:29.160 i hope it has been meaningful to you guys spawn thank you as always for showing up and sharing
03:41:34.960 your wisdom with us thank you for having me nick thank you for all that you do and for producing
03:41:41.120 is fine program next week i will join you with uh folk builder chris savage to finish out
03:41:50.640 our history series with a discussion of vikings to the west so look forward to that that'll be 0.89
03:41:57.440 awesome until then kill the icer oh lb afa and remember victory never sleeps 0.93
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