00:03:00.000this is not a test I repeat this is not a test run for your lives the 1980s are here run run run
00:03:30.000Hi, everyone. Welcome to Victory Never Sleeps. I am Witten Callahan, and I am joined by folk
00:03:54.880builder Sarah Ault. And until the else year ago, the is safely at the location for this
00:04:00.940piece of the Iron Harriard that is this weekend. My good friend Sarah Ault, who I think is as big
00:04:07.980a fan of Beowulf as I am, is going to be here with me to discuss Beowulf and answer any questions
00:04:14.840that we might have. And Nick, I don't know where you got my graduation picture from,
00:04:20.820but kudos. It's kind of concerning that you found it. Sarah, where was that picture from?
00:04:35.880I think you posted it one day when we were sharing pictures of our high school days.
00:04:43.300That's where Nick got the pictures from. Oh, my picture.
00:04:46.640That was 1988. Mine was from the year I graduated. I think I'm sitting on top of a car in a parking
00:04:59.420lot somewhere. That's what we did. Awesome. Yeah, so that's my graduation picture and a picture of
00:05:09.460Sarah from high school. So now you know what we looked like when we were young. Holy Aquanet is
00:05:14.100right. There is a lot of Aquanet in mine, too. All right, so before we get officially started
00:05:20.620tonight, we got a few announcements. Tickets for the Feast of the Einherjar are still on sale at
00:05:28.040the Runestone store. It is not too late to get your ticket. That is going to be our Baldur's
00:05:33.040Hoff District Feast of the Einherjar, which is going to be in South Dakota this weekend.
00:05:37.760And the Elster Yargothi is already en route, so he will be there, as will Founder McNallan and Githia McNallan from Odenshoff, as well as a ton of Baldur's Hoff leadership and membership will be there this weekend.
00:05:53.280So it's a great venue. It's going to be a great event. So tickets are still on sale for that.
00:05:58.440contact any of the Baldur's Hof leadership if you have any questions about what to bring and
00:06:06.480if you can come and directions and all of that good stuff so we will still be monitoring that
00:06:11.380up until the event so please go ahead and get your tickets for that not to be confused with
00:06:16.960the Feast of the Iron Harriar event that is happening at Baldur's Hof itself which is going
00:06:22.100to be next weekend so we've got two Feast of the Iron Harriars back to back but go ahead and
00:06:28.120support your district. If you can make it to South Dakota, please get your ticket bought for that.
00:06:32.760Also, since we do have Folk Builder Alt here, I do want to do a plug for the As A True Academy.
00:06:39.560And Sarah, if you can just give us a real quick rundown on that As A True Academy and how things
00:06:45.580are going and how do they contact the staff for that.
00:06:58.120um the everything with the osteo academy is going very well this year we are offering grades
00:07:07.100kindergarten through third grade um hopefully by next year we will have add fifth and sixth
00:07:13.520grade onto it so we'll we'll cover all that elementary type stuff um you can go to
00:07:22.560aussitrueacademy.org and hit the contact button and you will an email will come to me and i will
00:07:30.220reach out to you and i can answer any questions you have and i can get your students enrolled if
00:07:36.300they fit into that thing um the the most important thing with the aussitrue academy is you have to
00:07:43.120be a member of the afa to join it it is well worth it the program is wonderful we have gothy
00:07:51.140Rob Stamm, who is amazing as our dean. We have Githya Sheila McNallan, who taught school,
00:08:00.420and she offers a lot of support throughout the program. We have Rachel Johnson, who knows every
00:08:08.160single law about homeschooling in every state in the United States, and it's just amazing what she
00:08:14.240brings to the program um we also every friday we have a parents meeting and there's always a guest
00:08:21.520storyteller at that meeting to read a book to the children next week it will be matt will be on to
00:08:29.360read a story to the children it is very much a program that is is well worth doing if you're
00:08:37.280choosing um homeschooling and if you are also true it is one of a kind there is no other program like
00:08:46.240it and it is was a very long making and we are incredibly proud of it awesome thank you ma'am
00:08:55.040uh just before before we get started into the meat and potatoes of tonight's topic i also want
00:09:02.160to put up here where you can watch this or watch or listen to the podcast we are on all kinds of
00:09:08.160streaming um odyssey entropy twitter rumble youtube vk if you go into the description box
00:09:15.120of this podcast here on youtube you can get all the links for that also we are on twitch that's
00:09:21.920new to me i think that's been new for a while but kind of behind on the time twitch also we can go
00:09:26.960on Twitch. Before we get too far ahead, I do just want to plug that there is a weekly Baldur's Hoff
00:09:35.360Ladies Book Study. We are currently covering Beowulf. We just killed Grendel's mother
00:09:41.840with the girls, didn't we? I think we did. Yes, we did. Yes, we did. So we are covering that. We do
00:09:54.520have the last one third uh the last third we did and we're looking for our following week
00:10:04.440yes yeah so if you do want to get caught up on those contacts sarah alt she does have them
00:10:10.280recorded um we kind of pick bay wolf apart and go through some main themes that we think are
00:10:14.440relevant especially for women also if you are a lady of the afa there is a handy dandy study
00:10:20.520guide that you can download off of our spiritual excellence group. No, off of the ladies, the
00:10:25.780ladies, ladies group. So if you are one of our AFA ladies, definitely go to the ladies group.
00:10:32.260There is an awesome study guide that's got a couple different translations and side by side
00:10:38.320with the old, the old English version of that as well. It's got room for notes. Yeah, it's got
00:10:44.620everything you need to actually have a productive book study. So we've got that as well. That being
00:10:49.640said, I do want to just do a couple shout outs real quick and answer one question and then we're
00:10:55.500going to get started, Sarah. All right. So thank you, Ronald Blake, $50 for help a new couple get
00:11:08.420back on their feet. Thank you, Ronald Blake. You are continually being generous with helping the
00:11:15.220AFA out with all of our fundraisers and helping out the Hoffs and donating in general. So we
00:11:19.820deeply appreciate that. You're here every week and we very much appreciate what you do. So I'm
00:11:25.820going to answer two questions and then we're going to get into the introduction. Uncle Krampus asks,
00:11:29.700why is Beowulf still relevant to our folk today, all of these centuries later and what can we
00:11:34.440learn from it? Oh, we are going to get into that, believe me. Why is it still relevant? Because I
00:11:39.520can show you through Beowulf all of the things that apply to generosity, that apply to honor,
00:11:45.260that apply to frith, that apply to the importance of our ancestors, that apply to oaths, that apply
00:11:51.460to how women act and hold themselves in a hall, to how we conduct symbol, to the importance of
00:11:58.940the gift cycle. Also, one of the biggest things that I take from Beowulf is, in fact, leadership
00:12:04.940and nobility. So we'll be focusing a lot of that on a lot of that as we go through.
00:12:13.480Then the questions that you guys are going to have tonight, keep in mind, we are trying to
00:12:17.600cram the first third of the poem with Grendel and Beowulf tonight. So if you do have questions
00:12:23.620about Grendel's mother or about the dragon, which happens later on in the poems, please save those
00:12:28.560because we will have numerous calls about this topic. So save those questions for then.
00:12:32.920One more question from Yager Kuningaz. Have either of you considered the correlation between the Anglo-Saxon Futhark and Beowulf? Beowulf is great and an important part of our overall lore. I love all the Kenyans.
00:12:45.580have i done that not necessarily so i've been studying beowulf for a long time but i have not
00:12:53.380applied the anglo-saxon huthark to beowulf specifically yet that sounds like an interesting
00:12:59.420concept that i would probably explore would be kind of interesting so i think that might be
00:13:06.580awesome that might be my next delve into beowulf might be to do that um all the kennings yes we're
00:13:13.560go over a lot of the kennings kennings are a big part of of beowulf they're a big part of the
00:13:19.880the poetic nature of it so it's awesome sarah have you ever considered the
00:13:25.080correlation between anglosax and futhark and beowulf at all
00:13:36.840grandmother part with the sword and the story on the sword, but for the most part, no.
00:13:53.000Also, one last question before we get started on that. What is an easy translation of Beowulf
00:13:58.820to read? The translation I own is very difficult for my modern English mind to read. I get it.
00:14:04.580I understand. I get it. The first time I read Beowulf, I was just, I didn't understand it at
00:14:09.900all. We read it in high school, and it was a direct translation of the Anglo-Saxon. It was
00:14:16.060very much like reading Beowulf for the first time, the same way that I read the Blue Spell
00:14:22.840with the Bellows translation the first time. It just went over my head until I actually picked
00:14:28.020it apart. So my recommendations for Beowulf translations are going to be J.R.R. Tolkien's
00:14:36.700version of Beowulf. His translation of Beowulf is great. I really like Dr. Leslie Hall's version
00:14:44.680of Beowulf. Both of those can be found online. They are open source. You don't have to pay for
00:14:49.480them. You can download PDFs. You can find those online. Also, this is the one that you would have
00:14:56.120to purchase, and this is a really good version, Beowulf by Seamus Haney. This is an easy-to-read
00:15:03.900version. It's not that at all. Also, Tolkien's is pretty easy as well. I'm not going to necessarily
00:15:11.600promote this book because I haven't got through this translation all the way, but it's got some
00:15:18.300funny things in it. I am going to warn you about this. It's a feminist revision of a macho heroism,
00:15:24.640So I'm not necessarily going to recommend this book, but this is super easy to read.
00:15:29.540I just don't recommend it if you're looking for something that's fully immersed in our culture, because there's a lot of hilarious banter in here.
00:15:41.640But it's most definitely a modern version of Beowulf, and I'm going to leave it at that.
00:15:48.240I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm not recommending it.
00:15:50.300I'm just saying it's a modern version in modern English and the way modern
00:15:54.660people talk today, but it is quite hilarious.
00:15:58.040It was a gift from folk builder, Mike Joyner,
00:16:00.220because he knows I'm addicted to Beowulf and I love it. Every,
00:16:03.780I love anything Beowulf. So, all right.
00:16:09.680Let's see. One more question. It looks like Lydia asks,
00:16:13.800Witten Callahan, why did you pick Beowulf as a spotlight story?
00:16:16.820What are your favorite messages and overall themes?
00:16:19.000I always say when people ask me what the first, where should they start? I always tell them that
00:16:26.260you need to start with Beowulf because in order to understand the more academic works that are very
00:16:33.460dry reading sometimes, but also very important to understanding the culture of the people
00:16:40.400and culture of our folk before, basically when this was still the religion of the folk before
00:16:48.600they were Christianized. In order to understand the culture behind that, and a lot of the reasons
00:16:52.980why we do still do certain things today, you have to read Beowulf first, because Lady with a Mead
00:16:59.620Cup is very Beowulf heavy. I recommend if you are going to read this book, you need to have a copy
00:17:05.760of Beowulf side by side with it. It will help you tremendously. Also, Culture of the Tootins. There's
00:17:14.580a lot of references to Beowulf, especially when it comes to honor, frith, hospitality,
00:17:21.240things like that. There's a lot of references to Beowulf. Again, I'd recommend having a good
00:17:26.360translation of Beowulf to refer to. Also, one more reference, and then we're going to get started.
00:17:36.740A lot of the things that we find in Beowulf when they're starting to talk about things like ship
00:17:41.000burials, how to mourn people, the gift giving, symbols, drinking rituals, and the adornments
00:17:47.660that they have on their swords, their shields, their helmets, what their helmets look like.
00:17:54.740These two right here, the Viking Age, volumes one and two. So if you want to look more in depth
00:18:00.220into that, if you guys start asking me questions about that, we're going to start having literally
00:18:05.080a 72-hour call on Beowulf, and that's not the point. What we want to cover is
00:18:12.620what we want to cover is the basic ideals and how to apply them in a modern context. That's
00:18:19.660what we focus on in the Ladies' Book Study, is how do we apply this and how do we recognize this
00:18:23.740in our culture. All righty. Okay, so that being said, we're going to go ahead and get into the
00:18:32.320intro of Beowulf and bear with me because the intro to Beowulf sometimes can be as important
00:18:38.100as Beowulf itself. So there's a few things that you need to understand about the text before you
00:18:43.280start jumping into it. Beowulf itself survived as a single manuscript, which means there was
00:18:52.400only one manuscript of Beowulf written down and preserved that we know of. Every translation that
00:18:59.180we have of Beowulf. Everything that you see from Beowulf is from this one manuscript. And that
00:19:05.360manuscript is called the Cotton Vitellis A-15. And that is based off of Sir Robert Cotton. He was
00:19:13.640a collector of old things and manuscripts. And he had this huge library of stuff. And the library
00:19:19.820was so huge. And he had so many books that he had case upon case upon case upon case books.
00:19:26.000And on top of these cases, he had busts of like Roman emperors, all kinds of different Roman emperors.
00:19:32.460And this one was found on the case that had the Emperor Vitalius on it.
00:19:38.220And it was A15, so it was on the first shelf, the 15th manuscript from the left.
00:19:46.420This manuscript itself, it was not just a story of Beowulf.
00:19:50.780There was several other stories that were included in this bound manuscript.
00:52:24.020lap of the world with branches and leaves and quickened life and every other thing that moved
00:52:29.460so times were pleasant for the people there until they finally won a fiend out of hell began to work
00:52:34.320his evil in the world grendel was the name of the grim demon haunting the marches marauding around
00:52:39.040the health and the desolate fens he had dwelt for a time in the misery among the banished monsters
00:52:43.780cain's clan whom the creator had outlawed and condemned as outcast for the killing of abel
00:52:49.320The eternal Lord had exacted a price. Cain got no good from committing that murder because the Almighty made him a thema and out of the curse of his exile, they're spraying ogres and elves and evil phantoms and giants too, who strove with God time and again until he gave them their reward.
00:53:06.420Okay, so now we're getting introduced to Halfdane, and then we get introduced to Hrothgar.
00:53:14.460So what they're setting up here is all of these men, all four generations of these men were good kings.
00:58:56.360So they're demonstrating the differences between order and chaos on that.
00:59:00.960Alright. So from here, we have a whole lot of information about Grendel and how terrible he is. And before we get into that, I promise we're going to be getting into Beowulf here pretty quick. Because basically what's going to happen is we've got the lineage of the hull, right? These four men.
00:59:21.020from there we are introducing this order or we're introducing what order is and we're introducing
00:59:27.540what chaos is we're setting that up so from there we get into grendel itself um a couple things to
00:59:35.520know about that is there is a lot of descriptions on what he was i can read that for us if you guys
00:59:44.040like this one's a little bit lengthy and we're already at an hour but what we've got on there is
00:59:50.900when you think of Beowulf and the way Beowulf plays in my head is like a Quentin Tarantino
00:59:59.500movie. Um, I have a very active imagination, especially when it comes to battle scenes and
01:00:06.260all of the stuff that's, that you're reading in here, it's very descriptive and it's,
01:00:11.460it's a beautiful poem, even if the, what he's describing is not a beautiful thing,
01:00:15.980but it's written very beautifully. It's trying to nail home for you what it is that is actually
01:00:24.400going on. So we're going to go ahead and read that really quick. We're going to explain Grendel a
01:00:29.580little bit and talk about what it means when he comes, why he comes, and why he hates these people
01:00:34.680so bad. So after Nightfall, Grendel set out for the loft house to see how the Ring Danes were
01:00:40.580setting into into it after their drink and there he came upon them a company of the best asleep
01:00:45.860from their feasting insensible to pain and human sorrows suddenly then the god cursed brute was
01:00:51.100creating havoc greedy and grim he grabbed 30 men from the resting places and rushed to his lair
01:00:56.300flushed up and inflamed in the raid blundering back with the butchered corpses then as dawn
01:01:01.180brightened in the late in the late day broke grendel's powers of destruction were plain
01:01:05.140their wasa was over they wept to heaven and mourned under mourning their mighty prince the
01:01:10.240storied leader sat stricken and helpless humiliated by the loss of his guard bewildered and stunned
01:01:15.300staring aghast at the demon's trail in deep distress he was numb with grief but got no
01:01:20.480respite for one night later merciless grendel struck again with more gruesome murders malignant
01:01:25.360by nature he never showed remorse it was easy then to meet with a man shifting himself to a safer
01:01:30.120distance in the bed in the bodies for he could blind the evidence of his eyes the obviousness
01:01:35.960of that hall watchers hate whoever escaped kept a weather eye open and moved away so grendel
01:01:41.400ruled in defiance of right what one against all into the greatest house in the world stood empty
01:01:46.200a deserted wall stead for 12 winters seasons of woe the lord of the shielding suffered under his
01:01:51.300load of sorrow and so before long the news was known over the world sad lays were sung about the
01:01:56.500set king and the vicious raids and ravagers ravages of grendel as long an unrelenting feud
01:02:02.020nothing but war, how he would never parlay or make peace with any day, nor stop his death
01:02:08.000dealing, nor pay the death price. No counselor could ever expect fair reparation from those
01:02:13.280rabid hands. All were endangered, young and old, were hunted down by the dark death shallow who
01:02:18.400lurked and swooped in the long nights, on the misty moors. Nobody knows where these reavers
01:02:22.660from hell roam on their errands. So Grendel waged his lonely war, inflicting constant cruelties on
01:29:56.640So, certainly everything you said, but also, everyone can't be the hero, but you gain fame and Ximena, and your luck is enhanced when you tie yourself to the hero.
01:30:24.400That's one of the subtle things that we do during Sumble. We share boasts and oaths to do things so that all of us who participate in that Sumble get benefit if you follow through on your oath.
01:30:40.900It's the same reason that we assign somebody to shut you down if your oath isn't approved or if we don't want to stand with it.
01:30:48.960Because if we affirm it and in some way help it along, then we get a little bit of benefit from it.
01:30:57.060If we affirm it and help it along and you don't succeed, then we bear some of the costs.
01:31:33.080You know, even if the outcome is uncertain and the odds are greatly against you, you stand to profit greatly by being in his company when he does great deeds.
01:31:45.700Standing, being counted on the right side of things is more important than momentary victories and is certainly more important than survival.
01:32:43.260Yes, it is important for your blood lineage and for telling about who you are, but also
01:32:49.140the reason that's important is that lineage, that family, that tribe, that nation has a
01:32:56.620reputation that you're tying into by, you know, Hey, I don't know you, but I know your people
01:33:02.220and they're all solid. So you're likely to be solid as well. You know, Oh wow. You stood with
01:33:09.240Beowulf against Grendel. Cool. You know, right this way, you build fame for yourself and building
01:33:16.320fame and having some people speak of your deeds and the people you, you stood with when they
01:33:22.560accomplish great deeds was always something to be celebrated and is so today yes sir we also see
01:33:32.240the respect of a man by another man okay so we always have this saying well i shouldn't say we
01:33:42.460some of us ladies have this saying that we always watch how men react to other men
01:33:49.420they are either going to be threatened by that man or they are going to respect that man.
01:33:56.540There's never an in-between. He is either your lesser or your superior.
01:34:02.860Men don't see each other as equals, so not always. But we kind of watch how men treat other men
01:34:08.400as women. If there is a man that has the respect of every other man in the room,
01:34:15.080that man is the leader even if it's not by title we watch that we also watch when there is someone
01:34:24.780who deserves that respect and that we see specific things that we want to to honor as well we can
01:34:32.540actually bring that honor to that man women can determine that worth and the other men will
01:34:38.340sometimes go wait a minute why is he getting all the attention so the respect of men to men is is
01:34:44.800displayed here because Beowulf jumps out of this damn boat. He doesn't write first. He doesn't
01:34:50.560call first. He doesn't send smoke signals first. He just shows up in a foreign country with 15 guys
01:34:56.320in a big, beautiful boat, armed to the teeth, and he just jumps out like he owns the place,
01:35:01.080right? There is an air of superiority and nobility there. I don't mean any harm,
01:35:07.900but look at me. I'm like asserting my dominance over this entire situation right here. I'm not
01:35:13.940asking for permission. I'm here to kill monsters, right? Just jumps out. He doesn't even send a
01:35:20.320message ahead. You know, this poor person sitting on the wall is like wielding his spear at him
01:35:25.900going, who are you and why are you here? I've never seen anybody that's ever dared to just
01:35:30.380jump onto the shore fully armed to the teeth like you own the place. And he's like, oh,
01:35:35.720it's no big deal. I'm just Beowulf. I'm here to kill a monster for you. And the guy's like, oh,
01:35:39.980okay well in that case there's more to it than that but the guy instantly instantly when he sees
01:35:46.080him makes the comment of this is not just some hanger-on in hero's armor this is a noble man
01:35:54.260i can tell looking at him that he is strong and noble powerful and strong and he can also tell
01:36:01.480that by the men who are following him you can tell who's in charge and the men are following behind
01:36:07.120so it's an instant recognition of authority um but yeah he just rolls up like he owns the place
01:36:13.520i'll show you go the do you have anything to add about a man's respect for men and
01:36:18.600authority and following the leader um i do i just want to first i want to reiterate the point that
01:36:27.380you made, because one of, I don't know, Beowulf is very important to me as a piece of our lore, and
01:36:37.900unfortunately, it seems to have lost some prominence in this generation of folks. Back
01:36:46.780when I first got involved in Auschwitz-Required Reading, one of the most important things about
01:36:53.880it is it displays social values of our ancestors and the social dynamics that
01:37:04.440also true fosters or responds to and those things are timeless the
01:37:10.800circumstance might be different but the principles remain and that's shown
01:37:19.260throughout your point that women by how they react to men in the group affect the way other men
01:37:26.440see things because they notice the deference shown they notice those things in the same way
01:37:33.040that you mentioned about men men notice those things as well and we absolutely every single
01:37:38.260one of us sizes each other up at first sight and it's instinctual when we don't it's i wonder how
01:37:49.000women perceive that when we say it because i think it may mean different things to them than it does
01:37:55.320to us yes if you perceive that you could possibly be that person's rival in some way you size them
01:38:04.820up in a martial way like hey can i take this guy with this guy kick my butt but you do the same
01:38:11.140thing with with old men you know see how he carries himself see if he has the look of somebody
01:38:18.920that's seen some stuff that's worthy of listening to or see if he's foolish you see those things you
01:38:26.880size all of those things up you size up if they've got a limp or if you know wow okay that guy's
01:38:34.140limping. Why is he limping? You know, has he seen some stuff? Does, is that leg his? How does this
01:38:41.700work? You, you always wonder those things. And something that's, I think that's some, one of the
01:38:52.160things, uh, two, okay, two things. Sorry, guys, I'm at this camp and I'm a little bit distracted,
01:38:57.780But two things. One of the ways that people recognize immediately that Beowulf is a dignified guest. Yeah, he's the biggest and the strongest, and he's acting boldly. But heroes of old would always display their best war here, or display their best whatever, depending upon the circumstance.
01:39:25.140But when he hopped out of that boat, he probably hopped out of that boat wearing as much of his treasure as he could put on himself to look his very best and to make an impression.
01:39:36.320Trying to look your best and make good first impressions was central to the world of our ancestors, is central to the concept of Ausatru, and is central to our interaction, whether we want to admit it or not.
01:39:51.540So looking the part is really important.
01:39:56.380And the other thing is being of noble bearing.
01:40:01.900There's something about, and we all pick up on this in different ways,
01:40:06.200but when sizing people up, does this person stand tall?
02:05:18.920Soon enough, Hrothdane's heir had to be away to the night's rest.
02:05:22.860He realized that the demon was going to descend the hall,
02:05:25.140and he had plodded all day, from dawn and light until darkness,
02:05:28.380gathered again over the world as stealthily nightshapes came stealing forth under the cloud mark.
02:05:32.560The company stood as the two leaders took leave of each other.
02:05:34.820Hrothgar wished Beowulf health and good luck, named him Hallwarden, and announced as follows.
02:05:39.780Never since my hand could hold a shield have I entrusted or given of the Dane's Hall to anyone but you.
02:05:45.200Word and guard it, for it is the greatest of houses.
02:05:49.120Be on your metal now, keep in your mind your fame, beware of the enemy.
02:05:52.300There's nothing you wish for won't be yours if you win through alive.
02:05:58.200All right, this is one of my favorite parts of Beowulf.
02:06:00.980and i know sarah's in the chat and she's probably going to be laughing when i do this but
02:06:06.520unfurth go home unfurth you're drunk okay he's like so you're beowulf huh you're here to save
02:06:15.640the day so i want you to picture this thing all right unfurth is sitting at the foot of the king
02:06:21.500at the foot of the king not beside the king he's not you know sitting in a place of honor he's
02:06:27.300sitting at the foot of the king. Kind of just sitting there, taking up space.
02:06:37.820Yes, this part irritates me. So I love to hate Unfrith. That's going to be the first thing that
02:06:43.760you need to know about me when I start on this rant. I love to hate Unfrith. First thing you
02:06:48.080need to know about Unfrith is his name means Unfrith, right? His name literally means pot stir,
02:06:54.780shit starter anti frith unfrith his name literally means that when you translate it through
02:07:02.100that's not a good start okay he's sitting at the feet of the king and nobody's really talking to
02:07:09.040him it's he's he is unimportant until he opens his mouth in a disrespectful way and he opens
02:07:18.780his mouth because he is angry that beowulf is there because somebody has taken attention from
02:07:22.800him. So from the way it sounds in this book, in this poem here, he's known and he's renowned and
02:07:30.680he's got a good reputation, but it's all kind of false, right? Because he says, oh, it was not you
02:07:36.720that went with Brecca and, you know, you couldn't even swim against Brecca. Brecca whooped you.
02:07:41.840What do you have to say about that? You're sitting here giving me your resume on how
02:07:44.820awesome you are. You couldn't even win a swimming match against Brecca.
02:07:47.480and beowulf says yeah well go home on first you're drunk sorry let me tell you about my
02:07:55.460match with brecca we swam for days and days shoulder to shoulder keep in mind we have been
02:08:01.700told there is no man stronger faster better than beowulf so we'll get into the shoulder to shoulder
02:08:06.720with brecca here in a minute but the only thing that kept beowulf from beating brecca was the
02:08:12.600fact that he was dragged down to the bottom of the ocean by a whole bunch of sea monsters which
02:08:16.660is going to be a theme, and Beowulf just needs to learn to stay out of the water, dragged down to
02:08:21.020the ocean, and he has to fight sea monsters, so he says, you know what, I didn't technically lose
02:08:25.540that battle to Breka, I mean, I guess I did, but here's the thing, I was battling sea monsters,
02:08:29.900and not only did I battle sea monsters, and I killed them all, and all of their bits and pieces
02:08:33.660were floating on top of the ocean, I just saved all the sailors in the future, because you know
02:08:38.040what, no more sea monsters, now how about you, Unferth, you Kinslayer, because I don't hear
02:08:44.300anything about you, you can't wield a sword, and you have not had any prowess in battle, come to
02:08:50.200think of it, you know what, you're still sitting here, which tells me that you've never actually
02:08:54.380battled Grendel, because nobody who's ever actually battled Grendel has survived, so let me just go
02:08:59.820ahead and put this on you, that you are absolutely the reason, and your attitude, and your kinslaying
02:09:05.660is more than likely the reason Grendel's running free to begin with. How about them apples?
02:09:10.460anyway that's my rant about unfurth um you have a kinslayer sitting at the foot of the king
02:09:20.740in the hall you have a kinslayer running his mouth in a feast hall
02:09:28.860what is the worst thing that you could possibly do to your community
02:09:35.000kill your kin right and here he is sitting up here he is sitting at the foot of the king
02:09:41.520listening to the king's conversations listening to what's said to the king listening to all of
02:09:46.760these things so Beowulf puts him in his place and he tells him yeah go home on foot you're drunk
02:09:53.000and then he talks about this is actually what happened with Brekka
02:09:57.120interesting thing about Brekka if he is the biggest and the strongest in the
02:10:03.460fastest, why is he swimming shoulder to shoulder with a man? And he tells us this. He tells us
02:10:09.880that we have been friends since childhood. His nobility, his good character, and his goodness,
02:10:18.400I believe, are the reasons that they were shoulder to shoulder for five days. He wasn't
02:10:23.940going to leave Brecca alone. The only thing that separated Brecca, and he says so in his narrative,
02:10:29.780The only thing that was able to separate him from Brekka was the sea itself, was the power of nature itself that he could not control that overpowered him.
02:10:39.260And then he got sucked down to sea monsters.
02:10:42.180Even in competition, he did not leave his childhood friend behind.
02:10:46.300He was shoulder to shoulder with him until he was face to face with sea monsters, separated him by the ocean itself, which to our ancestors is going to be the most powerful force there is.
02:13:03.300There is a place even in the presence of royalty of
02:13:07.240a certain amount of frankness and honesty as opposed to
02:13:11.460not if something needs to be said or you feel like you need to say something say something
02:13:18.100because nothing erodes friff worth uh worse than grumbling under your breath in a latent
02:13:29.300just under the surface hostility that doesn't get aired in the hall culture if you could air
02:13:35.620your problem and get it dealt with swiftly and immediately then everybody could go on with
02:13:40.720their merriment and not have that toxicity in the hall.
02:13:49.100So we got a couple of questions about this particular couple of fits. Sarah starts with
02:13:55.880Hrothgar was such a great king, yet he let a kinslayer sit at his feet. Could this be part
02:14:00.020of the reason for Grendel's presence? So I'm going to answer that in Brandyland Beowulf,
02:14:03.900and then I'm going to let Matt give us his answer on that one.
02:14:10.720Grendel was born, not born, but Grendel's type was originated because of the monstrosity that
02:14:21.040is Kinslaying. That's specifically said. It's very telling to me that Hrothgar is being attacked
02:14:27.140and he's got a Kinslayer at his feet. Does he know he's a Kinslayer? We don't know. Beowulf does.
02:14:33.580but what are you what are you letting into your house what kind of wisdom are you relying on
02:14:41.180because is with where he's sitting is he just that yappy chihuahua or is he listening to all
02:14:49.300of these conversations and working all of these politics and taking advantage of situations right
02:14:53.900is he the reason i don't think he's reason the reason but it's very telling that you have
02:15:01.420somebody, because it's a theme that you see layered over and over again. The most horrible
02:15:07.520characters in this story are all Kinslayers. Every single one of them. So could it be part of it? I
02:15:16.540don't know. Brandyland Beowulf would probably say, yeah, it means something. It means something that
02:15:21.620is unforced specifically that challenges Beowulf. To me, that's significant, but I'll let
02:15:28.600the Alshira Gauthi give his opinion on that?
02:15:34.240It's significant in that it reinforces the overriding theme, but I don't think it's the
02:15:42.480reason that Grendel and his reign of terror is being inflicted upon Hrothgar. But it's
02:15:51.940certainly relevant. It's not accidental. That is a theme throughout this piece. And I think
02:15:57.960this is another touch back to that thing. Adam's got a question. Beowulf seems to like to prove
02:16:06.120himself by swimming contest. Is there any historical significance to that? Was that a thing?
02:16:12.540The swimming contest itself. So remember our narrator never lies to us and our narrator is
02:16:18.300setting up layers. We repeat the same things over and over again. He's preparing you for what's to
02:16:24.440come. Not only does the story of Brekka in the swimming contest prove his strength, his worth,
02:16:34.480his nobility, his commitment to friends and frith, that shows all of that, but it also sets us up
02:16:43.400for what he has to do with Grendel's mother, which is going to be coming in part two.
02:16:47.380the narrator continually gives us little hints he'll say something or or something will happen
02:16:54.440like Beowulf will tell a story about um fighting sea monsters and the next thing you know
02:16:59.460he's fighting a sea drake right so you kind of just got to watch what the narrator's doing is
02:17:05.940there any historical context significance to that historical um not that I know of but I'll let the
02:17:12.060I'll share a go. They touch on that. He might have something. Um, but what I'm getting from
02:17:17.160this specifically, this contest specifically is the showing of his loyalty to Brekka that he
02:17:22.960didn't desert his friend until the sea, which was the most strongest force they knew of separated
02:17:27.940them. And then he killed a whole bunch of sea monsters. So it increases his worth. It increases
02:17:32.400his fame, increases his luck. And it also sets us up for what's to come. I'll share a go.
02:17:42.060Yes, absolutely. It's a historical thing, but when forced to come up with a specific example of it in history or to cite a time of it, I can't.
02:17:57.200Other than the princes, sons of kings, nobles would always, since the furthest imaginings, compete at noble arts that are tests of strength and whatever else.
02:18:19.160We see this constantly with horse racing or spear throwing or rock throwing or, hey, watch me do this thing.
02:25:08.120a lord's retainers to outlive him on the battlefield was shameful
02:25:15.540because they allowed their king to go down and they made it and they made it home and um
02:25:21.220in the inverse to for beowulf in front of his retainers not to be the first in battle not to
02:25:30.340lead the charge was equally shameful that reciprocity with lord and retainer is another
02:25:37.160One of the things this poem illustrates in a really beautiful and a straightforward way.
02:25:46.860And I think that's the essential thing.
02:25:50.380If they are all going to die, then I'm going to be the first one at the door.
02:25:55.400I'm going to have the pride of place of being the one that goes down first.
02:26:00.840That in and of itself was an honor for that man.
02:26:07.160And one of the really interesting things for me on this one, they slept with peace of mind. Why did they have peace of mind? Because what fate is, fate will be, right?
02:26:23.680Yeah, the battle is half won because they have the courage to be there. The fact that they were there and they slept, even if they lose, they die as heroes.
02:26:35.140and if they win, you know, even the more so.
02:30:46.520would travel far into the fiend's keeping.
02:30:48.580Then he who would have harrowed the hearts of men with pain and affliction with former times and had given offense also to God found that his bodily powers failed him.
02:30:57.600Heiglath's kinsmen kept him helplessly locked in a handgrip.
02:31:00.980As long as either lived, he was faithful to the other.
02:41:41.240Last question that I see on here, and then I'll kick it back over to Brandy.
02:41:45.080I am at an event, and I'm going to need to get to sleep and be ready for folks tomorrow.
02:41:50.660But what are some of the highlights from Culture of the Teutons that stand out to you?
02:41:58.240Don't know if that question was to me or Brandy, but I'll give you mine,
02:42:01.600And then I'll throw it over to Brandy and she can give you hers and then close out with anything she'd like to or keep keep going.
02:42:09.460The night's young. So. It was so good.
02:42:15.640There was a lot of moments in it that. I had to it was strange that I'd never done this in a book before, but I had to just set it down and digest it.
02:42:26.400And I had to do that several times in Culture of the Two Tons.
02:42:31.600A couple of things that stood out was the idea, the better explanation for Frith.
02:42:42.460I think it literally translates into peace often, and so people leave it at that.
02:42:49.100And there's so much more to it that fleshes it out and makes it so much more robust.
02:42:57.000and something especially for a young man as I was at the time
02:43:02.160to get a little bit more excited about by just, you know, than just peace.
02:43:07.700And also talking about our concept of justice.
02:43:16.560And it's easy, and Groenbeck goes, I think, a little bit unrealistically far
02:43:23.420with his idea of vengeance, but the idea of when something is taken from you, the fix
02:43:31.080is to retake that or to be compensated as where guilt is in, you know, as close to an
02:43:38.600equitable measure for what's been taken from you. We talk a lot about the idea of one paying
02:43:46.600their debt to society but we've lost a lot of the meat to that the point isn't just the punishment
02:43:56.480of someone who's done wrong it's the recompense for what the person who's been wronged has lost
02:44:03.840and that's that resettling of the scales by getting back what you lost and that's something
02:44:10.700I just want to reiterate that I mentioned earlier about the idea of kinslang and why that was such
02:44:15.620a horrible curse to our ancestors um if my uncle kills my brother you know in any other circumstance
02:44:26.580the answer is okay cool well i go kill my uncle and that settles it and our family's square but
02:44:31.180no that means my family loses yet again and the only way to fix that is you know my cousin coming
02:44:39.400after me and there's no end to it and you're dealing with the same pool of resources even if
02:44:44.940you take that to a wereguild situation it's money going from the pocket of one of my family members
02:44:51.800to the pocket of the other of my family members but there's a net loss altogether we are my family
02:44:58.400is made less in every step of that so there's no winning it it's something that's permanently lost
02:45:04.320if a foe takes something from you you can take something from them of equal value you can take
02:45:10.060something from them of greater value there's ways to settle the score but when it's in your own house
02:45:16.500you can't it's just loss and uh it talks in there and tells you the two times about
02:45:22.940the inability of our soul to reconcile permanent loss that we can't that we can't fix in some way
02:45:32.020that we can't rebalance or make right but uh yeah i think those are the two things that stand out
02:45:37.280the most, but it's a fantastic book all the way