00:10:30.000how's it going fawn doing well doing well are we on we are live oh i didn't know um
00:10:45.660i'm running in late from work as well or yeah i don't know how's here go these
00:10:49.800running late from work i don't know what he's running from but he's running that's for sure
00:10:56.920all right well i mean we got audience on and everything right we're good we're live and ready
00:11:03.240okay i'm still trying to uh get things in motion but before we do that i mean let's go ahead and
00:11:11.640do some announcements i know people have been patiently waiting um
00:11:15.800let's see so everyone knows too of course we've got yule coming up
00:11:23.300So be, you know, prepared to look for your what's going on in your local area, whether it's your kindred at your Hoff or what have you.
00:11:33.340Most everyone knows we're going to be trying to do this around the 20th or the weekend closest to for logistic purposes.
00:11:42.600It may be different. So that's why you got to get with your local folk builder as we move for Yule Mother's Night, which will be a Friday this year.
00:11:50.820and um yes the yule elf oh um and we will be doing the 21st we'll be doing the burning of
00:12:04.340the sun wheels um which will be on a saturday so if i know that a lot of folks can't make it out
00:12:10.480on friday night um please try to but there will be uh yule candles with ash from the yule log
00:12:17.840for folks to, you know, take home and light the Yule candle for their virtues on every
00:12:24.360holy night of Yule. And, you know, generally we try to get everybody to do,
00:12:32.260you know, the first night we get together, we light the Yule log and we unite in our faith.
00:12:39.020And then for the 12 nights thereafter, lighting a candle for the virtues in the morning,
00:12:43.780holding bloats at night there are you know of course um 11 bloats after mother's night
00:12:49.740leading up to the culmination of the 31st or 12th night and on 12th night generally you know there's
00:12:56.980the burning of the bonfire or the campfire or or what have you um with the light that's been held
00:13:03.440for 12 nights um again representing each cycle of the moon um throughout the year or of the months
00:13:11.180of the year if we're talking about the gregorian calendar and um so if you're if you're interested
00:13:17.420in that of course too if you are a member of the yassa troop folk assembly and you are on our
00:13:21.020social media make sure you just keep an eye out um also check your runestone uh email because um
00:13:28.540in there i know nick has um done a lot of hard work and and i i you know we were we were joking
00:13:35.020around about it because the the work some of the writing stuff that i did was is older and so it's
00:13:40.380like yeah there's all this stuff in that and i was like yeah that's from a while ago actually
00:13:44.620but they're in there and it's up to date and i highly recommend you check your emails and get
00:13:48.980your runestones so that way you can you know look at yule traditions especially if you're newer
00:13:53.880parents and you want and you're new newer to the faith and you're looking to reconnect um and you
00:14:01.220know you kind of are in the faith now uh but you're trying to bring your children and have
00:14:07.080have a certain sense with your kids um you know and having also true as the the the clear and
00:14:16.120correct you know religious expression of this time of year versus you know perhaps all your
00:14:20.920whole family is um you know celebrating christmas um and you want to make sure that your kids are
00:14:29.160are you know feel not outcasted by perhaps the rest of your family which i know that kind of
00:14:34.760happens a lot so um for us we don't really have that problem um and uh and we have an accepting
00:14:42.040family that's really really they they enjoy our yule traditions as well but i realize that's not
00:14:47.720everybody's situation so you know the more you know and the more you have it stable and set in
00:14:53.000your house the more um that your children will feel security in that and be able to pass it on
00:14:59.560to their children so that way um generationally we can that's the true testament of our faith is
00:15:06.280making sure our generations carry on tradition so
00:29:14.380Oh, and I was going to say, because I don't want, I know that a lot of folks that were listening last time, perhaps there's a lot that are listening today that weren't able to catch last time.
00:29:24.740But there was also, for most folks, King Harold was poisoned in his mind by two brothers who felt that they were wronged long ago by Bard the White and his family.
00:29:45.120so when thorolf eventually gets bard the whites land um and wife they use this moment of disconnect
00:29:55.120to start poisoning king harold and saying thorolf is gaining power he's gaining land he has two
00:30:01.600fjords um he gets all this money from the fins and they love him and he's not giving you all the money
00:30:07.840so they sow all of this deceit and they are referred to uniquely by the names hildrida's
00:30:16.160sons so they're referred to by their mother because she was they they were not considered
00:30:20.560legitimate um since their father was an older man and it was like a hasty marriage and the family
00:30:26.720didn't agree to it and so on and so forth so the uh in chapter 23 the slaying of hildrida's sons
00:30:33.360the reason why this is so significant is these are the two guys that were
00:30:37.740really laying it in on Harold and splitting Thor off for his land and one of the big things about
00:30:46.180the sagas that I think we should all take from a religious perspective is that will and fate
00:30:53.580are entwined and when you have the will to do things you must have the strength to endure the
00:31:00.120fate that you sow and this is another example so all right chapter 23 the slaying of hildreda's
00:31:10.680songs there was a man named kettle highing son of thorkel earl of naumdale and of rapnilda0.98
00:31:21.960daughter of kettle haying of crap mister anywhere whatever you see r-a-f that's crap uh the the f0.90
00:31:33.160is like a p sound and it means it's it's raven um like in anglo-saxon the it would it would be said0.98
00:31:40.680uh raven and you know to be honest i don't know if old norse still kept it as a vf sound but i
00:31:49.240But I know in modern Icelandic, it's a P sound now.
00:31:52.700So you'll hear people say like hrappnar, instead of hrappnista, so, but it is just...
00:31:59.640Okay, so are we on 23 or I thought we finished 23 and we're on 24.
00:34:30.160Now, the waters have already been explored.
00:34:31.560and um the founding of iceland is is a truly interesting one it's the it's really you know
00:34:39.120one of the only countries in the world where the the people that founded it found it with
00:34:47.240our divinity our gods in mind they they threw the high seats down and asked thor to show them
00:34:56.600to go and they those high seats let led them to to the misty bay to reikivik so they're going across
00:35:06.920open open waters and the only way that they had found iceland was they were loosing birds and the
00:35:14.480birds would come back and then one day they didn't and they knew land was nearby so i mean this is
00:35:20.420your whole life, your family, your farm, only the best of folk that you would entrust with your
00:35:27.360ships are going. And passage is not a guarantee. Very easily die. So they go to explain a few
00:35:39.180winters before, uh, there was a Ingolvur and Hjörleivur had gone to settle Iceland and their
00:35:50.380voyage was much talked about. It was said there was a good choice of land there. So Haying settled
00:35:55.880west over the sea to seek Iceland. And when they saw land, they were approaching it from the south.
00:36:03.040But because the wind was boisterous and the surf ran high on the shore, there was no haven for them.
00:36:09.180They sailed westward along the sandy coast.
00:36:11.900And when the wind began to abate and the surf to calm down, and the reason I, it's so funny because I know why, is actually the Gulf Stream, the Gulf Stream that goes up the east coast of the United States and into Canada, button hooks right into the western coast of Iceland.
00:36:30.120And that's why I think the water and everything is generally more favorable than on the eastern side.
00:36:36.580um so the when they uh they found a wide river mouth and up this river they steered their ships
00:36:45.820and lay close to the eastern shore thereof and that river is now called
00:36:49.580fjords river its stream was then much narrower and deeper than it is now
00:36:55.100they unloaded their ships and then searched land eastward of the river bringing their cattle after
00:37:01.180them hanging remained for the first winter on eastern bank of the outer rang river so the fact
00:37:08.240that they could go from norway and the and go to iceland and survive that winter and most people
00:37:15.580would say like norway iceland might not be that different no it's so different in the sense that
00:37:20.180there's no forests and the wind is unforgivable and they were working with stone instead of wood
00:39:34.160So he was an Icelander, whereas Storov, Erolf, Elgi, and Wester were all from Norveir.
00:39:42.860Um, and again, I had made mention that there's, um, uh, theories that the, that, um, Haying's family, um, were descended from migration era, um, Nordic tribesmen who had fought for Rome and had moved northward and settled in England, Denmark, Norway, and Sweden.
00:40:06.820But this whole fiasco with the king really sent them to new lands and that their sensibilities towards creating a congress versus a kingdom is an interesting topic if you're ever interested in looking up the tribe of the heralds and their settling of Iceland.
00:40:30.900so kveldof's grief now we go back um oh actually we read this as well i was here buddy i remember
00:40:42.080the poem or nope sorry we didn't i was reading ahead so chapter 24 kveldof's grief and this
00:40:51.900is the part where you start to see where ayin starts to get his poetic um fervor from
00:40:58.560kveldof heard of his son thoralf's death and so deeply grieved was he at the tidings that he took
00:41:07.620his bed from sorrow and age so at this point it withered him in spirit that he stayed in his
00:41:18.880the bed closets that were common of the of the longhouses and and rarely left
00:41:24.920um skallagrim came often to him and talked with him and he bade him to cheer up anything he said
00:41:34.120was more fitting than to become worthless and lie bedridden and that is again another reason why
00:41:40.520um we take great you know care in trying to teach our folk that instead of isolating yourself during
00:41:50.280tragedy instead of isolating yourself during say holy tides like you'll your you should go out do
00:41:56.920not be worthless do not belittle yourself do not you know fall into the the malaise and the mire
00:42:03.800of depression go out and seek your folk and scholar grim is saying the same thing here
00:42:10.600and he wants his father even the fact that his brother is dead there's no use to any of us
00:42:15.960us if you stay like this um better counsel is is it that we seek to avenge Thorolf maybe we
00:42:27.720shall come across some of those who took part in his slaying but if not that yet there will
00:42:32.940be men whom we can reach and thereby displease the king so if anything the silver lining is
00:42:41.100we can wreak havoc because they killed our brother my brother your son
00:42:47.300and then um kveldof sang a stave now i don't know why the usage of the word stave is here
00:42:57.840because the the visu is like a poetic song but it's something worth noting here if you look at
00:43:04.940the way the poem is written. In the first line, Thorolf in Northern Isle, O cruel Norns
00:43:16.880is dead. Now it doesn't necessarily equate the same way for us, but if you look over
00:43:24.400on the uh old norse translation the word new new frauk norther e a you known airnam grim
00:43:40.080so new and norn uh new norther and norn this is alliterative rhyming they're utilizing key um
00:43:49.760sounds uh like in this case the it's the consonant n it can be also that they they will use um all
00:43:58.160vowels are considered equal to each other so you may see vowels thrown in and that makes things a
00:44:03.760bit more confusing but if you read it you can see in the second line thunder frema and thorolf
00:44:12.880are all the alliterative rhyming points so for anybody who's ever wondered why the poetics of
00:44:18.880of the old norse seem a little strange it's in translation but you will see these repetitive
00:44:25.360and alliterative forms of poetics that they do and it helps the poet remind and it helps other
00:44:32.800poets remember um so he says thorolf in northern isle oh cruel norns is dead too soon the thunder
00:44:42.960god hath taken my warrior son thor's heavy wrestler age holds my weak limbs from fray
00:44:54.000though keen my spirit spurs no speedy vengeance mine and there's a couple of things about this
00:45:03.680one is too soon did the thunder god lord thor take his son there's a couple theories behind
00:45:11.680this and one of them is is that we we clearly see that our ancestors held the the ruling gods in
00:45:18.000tripartite and this may be that uh lord thor was at the center of the tripartite amongst the the
00:45:30.000norwegians at the time or that he was full true he had great faith in thor and that uh his death
00:45:41.440was seen as him joining or being taken by uh by lord thor and it's worth remembering that the
00:45:50.480gods gather to count counsel and meet out the doom of men at the well of urd in heaven and
00:45:59.440it's not just lord ovin it's it's the it's the 12 gods it's the our senior and they gather there
00:46:07.040and interplay with the outcome of earth the source of all time and fate so that's a very
00:46:15.840interesting point and i think in the this day and age that's worth considering of course what's his
00:46:22.160name what's that what is the deceased's name thorolf kveldolfson yes what does thorolf mean
00:46:32.560the wolf of thor why would a father name a son that now i this could be a reach and i'm asking
01:00:57.680Sure. Being the one of the gods that is directly connected to Midgard with an immediacy protection is first and foremost in my mind.
01:01:14.080Also, sanctification. Whenever as a govi, I am asked to do any sort of blessing in any capacity, whether it's for a house or for an item or against ill things, it is always Lord Thor in his four sacred names that I call upon.
01:01:36.060and and i and i you know draw his hammer um in order to willfully push as in my capacity as a
01:01:44.940godi against these um fowler forces that cause chaos so uh sanctification um
01:01:54.860might, and I would say facing problems head on, breaking through obstacles,
01:02:11.780um, you know, cutting the Gordian knot, if you will. It's really easy to overcomplicate and do
01:02:21.080mental gymnastics and go through a bunch of hesitation and a bunch of
01:02:26.140to get in your head thor is a god of action um he's got many other things obviously as you point
01:02:35.220out but one of his prime things is swift direct and overwhelming force and uh so that's what i
01:02:44.480would go with uh right balder i reach out to balder and give gift to him almost this is going to sound
01:02:56.380bad i apologize to lord balder for our separation for the the folly of and the sickness of our folk
01:03:07.040and i pray that he um receive and guide me to help others come back home so i would say
01:03:16.060he gives me i pray to him for um recompense and um rejuvenation of the faith um
01:03:28.080yeah i ask that he receive our gifts uh where he is now and that when he returns that might
01:03:36.620will guide him and the fact that he has not been forgotten that he has not been quelled
01:10:11.760um i try to ponder the mysteries of music because i really want to play instruments
01:10:21.760um so that i could add more perhaps to like a scaldic sense um at like our symbols and things
01:10:30.620of that nature um and so i i try to break that i do understand like the structures of alliterative
01:10:39.180poetry but i really want to know about the mysteries of music i'm such a fan but i am
01:10:45.820ignorant to um the construction of it or or reading of music um and the other is mathematics
01:10:53.340uh i firmly believe that those two are completely intertwined and that uh lord braille is um0.63
01:11:02.220And a symbol of that understanding of how things work in formulaic ways. And I'm not good at math, but it's not like I'm trying to ask him for help on my math homework. It's more or less trying to understand the mysteries of how things can accumulate or accrue outside of the physical and the tangible.
01:11:38.540art in general i don't just think about musical art and performance art although obviously that's
01:11:48.300you know front and center but i think artistic inspiration in general and also eloquent speech
01:11:55.580and not just in the sense of a song or a poem but in persuasive speech or in you know well composed
01:12:04.460thoughts well well spoken words um a well put together hail a well put together speech a well
01:12:13.420delivered oration uh heimdodler heimdodler is unique very much like lord thor uh one is i reach
01:12:27.660out very often to the father of the folk um and ask him to bear witness to our troth um when i
01:12:35.340pray or when i lead a bloat um and this came from um whit and daniel but yes lighting the candle
01:12:43.340and giving gifts to lord heimdall in the very beginning of every bloat we do to allow him to
01:12:51.420see us from the edge of heaven um i know he's in a stasis position now but was not always the case
01:12:59.020um and so i asked him to bear witness that that our our i view our religious connection to the
01:13:06.860gods as not only um a return of faith but also obligation i think that we are deeply indebted to
01:13:16.300to the icier and heim dollar is the first witness um the other two i you know i would say is uh
01:13:27.820uh, faith or devotion, um, remaining and, and holding true whenever I've, and I've had bouts
01:13:37.240of faith. I, you know, I, I've had bouts of faith throughout my life. I've been out so true for a
01:13:42.500very long time, but I run into situations and I, or I dry up sometimes and I don't know what to do.
01:13:49.780And, uh, Lord Handel has always been the one that's allowed me to, or guided me, or I don't
01:13:56.820know has been the element of that exchange that has led me back to an understanding of why all
01:14:07.300of this is so important i would say first
01:14:13.500vigilance and in a lot of different forms that may take different things depending upon what
01:14:25.380your life entails, but being situationally aware, keeping your head on a swivel, being
01:14:33.320aware of dangers around you, being aware of the things around you, just being, having
01:14:41.000awareness, having that fully present where you can see advantage or disadvantage coming
01:14:50.400your way and you can adjust accordingly. And then I'd also say, when you know stuff and other people
01:15:03.440just don't seem to get it, or maybe it's not proper for you to say anything, I think we all,
01:15:08.620and I'm having trouble figuring out the best way to articulate this, but I think we all personally
01:15:12.780in our lives, we've seen things or we know stuff and nobody else gets it but you and nobody else0.96
01:15:19.980of seeing it and it may not be the right time or place to point out like hey now dude's a hypocrite0.91
01:15:26.980i seen you last weekend i know what you've been up to like there's things to where sometimes you0.89
01:15:33.620feel isolated and like maybe you're the only one who sees or you're the only one who gets it and
01:15:37.960other people just aren't seeing what's playing his day to you but they just don't get but heim
01:15:44.700daughter he sees and he hears and he has sharp vision and crisp hearing and he knows he's nobody
01:15:54.060else knows he knows he's looking and i mean that can cut both ways depending on what you're up to
01:15:59.980so right right right on you vidar oh um acts of devotion right around this time is a really
01:16:12.380interesting thing it's just something that i do um the 12 days before yule i call it the widening
01:16:19.180um because vidar in his name means the wide the wide one or the wide ruler um and um he is
01:16:30.060to me the lord of the like religious devotion and oaths towards betterment and or completement so
01:16:38.380So for those that might not know, I took an oath seven years ago to not drink recreationally.
01:16:47.740And he was the, the, I serve that I called upon.
01:16:52.880So like, I only drink during bloat and communion and I only drink during sumble.
01:16:59.120The reasoning again is just after the war, you know, alcohol was never a good thing for me to do in excess.
01:17:05.960and um so i asked vidar to bear witness to my oath and i've i've held true um and i'm proud of
01:17:16.580that and the other is it's uh any like any time that during this time of year i really kind of
01:17:25.800focus in on his devotion um the 12 nights before yule i usually give up something and again this
01:17:35.000is not you know like written down in lore and it's it's just something for me personally as a
01:17:40.720devotional and and so it could be you know uh from food to you know certain excesses or things of
01:17:48.820that nature you give up for 12 12 days before yule and so that way when yule comes about and
01:17:55.340you celebrate um you're left with this dilemma and the dilemma is do you now just cut loose because
01:18:01.600you you've gone without or do you realize you know you don't particularly need it and perhaps
01:18:07.920it was a vice that was controlling you so whatever it may be or go hard yeah it could be testaments
01:18:16.800of like exercise or going to the gym or lots of different things it doesn't always have to be
01:18:21.920something reprimanded but no i i absolutely vidar is personifies duty and those are kind of my
01:18:32.960associations um as well one of the big ones is the silent house um shutting up and listening
01:18:45.840it's one of those things it's hard when you're talking all the time to stop and listen and absorb
01:18:54.900and this may sound like a funny association but i think that's an important thing to remember
01:19:02.300sometimes when you're in conversation or you're interacting with people or you're dealing with
01:19:07.880stuff no matter how far you know how knowledgeable you are how you know um learned you are at a skill
01:19:20.080or at a at a thing there's a benefit in just shutting up and listening and absorbing and
01:19:28.760taking in a scenario and i think that's really valuable and i associate that with lord bidar
01:19:35.400Um, also with duty and with purpose, um, he and his brother Valley are both born to very specific purpose and their existence and their being brought into existence revolves around very specific duty.
01:19:58.720Their duty is clear and defines who they are.
01:20:05.080And I think that there's far worse things in this world than someone, and in our case, when we relate, than a man being fully devoted to his duty and set on carrying it through, even if it takes a deal of time.
01:20:27.060It's for the long term. And he stands vigilant and prepared and ready to do his duty when it's his time. And that's very instructive. And I think anybody who is in that type of position, I think that he's a very good house to look to for that.
01:20:48.220uh lord valley i pray to in a passive sense because i view him as very much like a
01:20:59.260a switch and once it's turned on it's it's it's insane i i i would say i more actively
01:21:08.300pray to lord valley for a concept that um i became aware of when i was younger studying martial arts
01:21:16.620and looking into eastern philosophies there is a taoist um philosophical point called wu
01:21:23.820way which means correct action and acting in the correct time being able to flow with the
01:21:31.820river of things and then knowing when to strike when to reach out when to and this is a thing that
01:21:39.580i think um plagues me often because i i know it doesn't seem like it but i am
01:21:45.180deeply an introverted person outside of certain so i've kind of trained myself to not be so um
01:21:55.500when i am in that mode i i ask for volley for guidance to know when something comes up
01:22:02.780when to act and when to act according or and accordingly so when to act and accordingly
01:22:10.460the other part i would say is that i would i reserve myself to not honor lord valley
01:22:18.780too specifically but i would most certainly if i was to call if i was wronged deeply if i was hurt
01:22:28.940My family was hurt. I would most certainly call upon him to guide me in wisdom.
01:22:36.460You know, seeking vengeance is a tricky understanding because by doing so, you could also endanger your inner guard even more.
01:22:46.320And that scares me. That terrifies me to be put in that position where I want to seek vengeance and be guided by righteous vengeance.
01:22:55.300but at what cost and i really would hope that he would be there to guide me in the in the
01:23:02.740right way because i i just think i would lose it if i was in that so level-headedness maybe
01:23:12.420wisdom and level-headedness and right action i am very
01:23:18.340there's a couple of murals that i'm very
01:23:28.340interested to see how spawn the pious uh
01:23:34.660manifest them right this one has the potential to be terrifying i kind of hope that it is
01:23:45.700Although I think it might traumatize young children that go there to worship.
01:26:00.120We have legal constraints and we have things that put this in context.
01:26:07.500But the quickly fixing things that are broken, that immediacy, that quickness with vengeance, it's not just about putting a hurtin' on somebody that's done you wrong.
01:26:21.940It's about rebalancing an imbalance that makes, that leaves a hole.
01:26:32.420And sometimes when things are broken, you can't just kind of limp them along.
01:26:37.600They need to get fixed and they need to get fixed immediately.
01:26:41.320The idea of quick, decisive, immediate action is what I'm going to go with.
01:26:48.580And that imagery is just so powerful to me.
01:26:51.940um lord uller uh one thing i was going to say is finraith brought up a point about
01:27:01.380uh lord bry being a revival of art i 100 believe that is the case um the art of our faith has been
01:27:09.380scattered so the unification i think is the key component that i would pray to lord bry to bring
01:27:18.100us to be able to kind of unite in a front because when we are scattered it does it's not as effective
01:27:24.180um there is a great website called odin's gift and it it's um very old and there's a lot of
01:27:34.420mismatch there's folkish universalist there's stuff all over and i really every time i go on
01:27:40.980there i just man if we had a united front the other thing too uh wolf throne brings up um
01:27:46.820that our the the outsider folk assembly unabashedly honors ostra um even though the tellings in the
01:27:56.900nordic frame um are are scant even though the word oster um exists in the language um because
01:28:04.660we can't find a linguistic link um we have honored her in her own right um unlike other groups who
01:28:14.100have tried to kind of like oh she's freya or oh she's not of of the night um and kind of tried to
01:28:22.580brush her into a box um but yeah these are the the 14 gods that we're speaking of are not the
01:28:30.420only gods there's the austvenir there is the the him and better but uh these are the the 14 that
01:28:37.460are like front and center um uh lord ruler one uh hunting um and i think anybody who is an avid
01:28:53.700hunter i think that's a legitimate point and and it's pretty straightforward also weapons in
01:29:00.340general self-defense um but and so like the discipline to maintain firearms the discipline to
01:29:07.460teach my children, to teach my wife, to the cleanliness of my firearms, the duty in which
01:29:14.180you keep your tools ready for action. The other, though, is more broad. I try to greatly understand
01:29:23.180that Ullr is the lord of imminence in death outside of natural causes. I see the mystery of
01:29:32.920him in um when animals slay each other for food and um i believe that lord ullr is that driving
01:29:42.600force um in essence he is a god of death but and hunter and prey um dichotomy so for me lord ullr
01:29:52.360kind of comes about to um in understanding having the will in order to complete an action that once
01:30:00.900you pass through the threshold there is no going back it is one way or the other and so he is a
01:30:10.980holy god of that drive that will that that thing you need after you go past the point
01:30:21.460where there's no hesitation anymore he's the lord of attainment so as simple as this may sound
01:30:30.900Just like I said, Njorther with water stuff, Uller with winter stuff.
01:33:42.760or when you want to absolvement of of your transgressions or um you want to uh relinquish
01:33:53.420yourself to something and i'm speaking of course to just the uh the middle eastern religions um
01:34:00.320but ousatru comes about when you interact with culture and and or or events and with weird or
01:34:09.640or law your your your will meets to culmination and it's like the icer are there at the as i like
01:34:19.160almost like a standing guidepost so what you just said like hit me is like yeah i i associate
01:34:26.680adherence or i i feel in the presence of the divine when i do things like go to hoff uh or
01:34:36.920yes uh you know have to like you know butcher one of the the chickens or um
01:34:44.920yeah it's like that that culmin what you said that culmination of of touching the divine is
01:34:50.520not through i go there and get this feeling back no it's it's i do something i attain something
01:34:58.440and it's like suddenly you're embraced by that divine moment almost like a like a sign post
01:35:04.440yeah we don't want our gods to forgive us for being losers we want them to be proud of us for
01:35:12.640being winners right and i mean that's the lowbrow way to put it no that's an awesome way to put it
01:35:20.500i never thought of it but it's a really important distinction that i think defines us
01:35:26.780i want my gods to be proud of me and you're proud of someone through
01:35:34.280i guess through both struggle and accomplishment like you don't always have to win but you got to
01:35:42.820go out there and like man he left it all on the field i'm proud of him good job or dude he won0.97
01:35:49.940hey well done right and that's what we want if you're a loser stop losing
01:35:58.420that's what that's what our gods want us to do is not wallow in it and get them to tell us it's okay
01:36:05.660to be a loser no start winning or start trying your best to and you raise yourself up through
01:36:14.200that struggle when win or lose you raise yourself up to that struggle but focus on winning if you
01:36:21.640focus only on winning you'll be surprised how much further you get towards it um for setting
01:36:32.280politics um i i don't pray to lord for set d4 politics but to understand the politic to
01:36:43.320understand governance to understand the importance of hierarchy um to whenever i feel perhaps that
01:36:52.280if i am am i going the correct direction do i believe the right thing in those self-reflective
01:37:00.760moments i call upon lord forsetti to guide me towards the the wisdom of either the right
01:37:07.640mindset for the right moment or the eternal the objective mindset towards uh whatever the
01:37:16.440overarching idea may be but in particular with with with governance with leadership
01:37:22.280and all of those concepts um i think that praying to lord for set the what i was reading a lot of
01:37:29.880like when when you had uh you had sent me down the path to reading like the metaphysics of war
01:37:38.200by um evola for seti came to my mind and so reaching out to him and saying you know what is
01:37:46.040what is the correct way that we should govern ourselves what is the correct way that we should
01:37:52.680align ourselves in order to gain the best um was a huge part there so politics and um and and the
01:38:01.400other is again to just fairness and non-hypocriticalness uh making sure that there's that looming sense
01:38:09.480of uh if you know if what i am doing is good for me um it should not
01:38:18.760it needs to be very very carefully laid out so i really do believe that forseti is a judge
01:38:25.720and he does judge us for our deeds based on the merit or the moral value of our deeds
01:38:34.520so not being a hypocrite kind of always looming on that one yeah i would say um
01:38:42.280and an important distinction politics means things that have to do with actual governance0.93
01:38:58.760not just saying edgy stuff and wearing skull masks while scaring old ladies
01:39:05.000i think it's important to know because we often in our circles talk about politics as if
01:39:15.000complaining on the internet or sharing edgy memes is political no running for your county
01:39:22.040commissioner of elections is political um actually being involved in doing something that involves
01:39:30.440governance is is political um and i think it's an important thing to be made but with lord for setia
01:39:41.240the interaction of noble people with one another it's very clear with many of the other uh else
01:39:48.840that you know swift actions for vengeance and busting through stuff and you know
01:39:58.840dominating your foe and doing these things those involve
01:40:04.680interactions with things in the in the utgarther but interacting with the in garther with your folk
01:40:14.440and within the folk in an appropriate way in a dignified way respecting hierarchy understanding
01:40:22.840the the struggles and the process and the skill that it takes to work collectively to achieve
01:40:33.720goals one of the things that plagues our people so much is a individualism run rampant with no
01:40:45.640balance or no thought to accomplishment or to achievement the idea of noble people
01:40:52.920noble men and women being able to work together productively to achieve goals to accomplish things
01:41:00.680to build lasting society and lasting legacy um one of the fundamentals of our folk is
01:41:08.200we are the civilizing people we build civilization i think that's personified by lord forsetti and
01:41:17.560i look to him for inspiration and for strength and guidance in that in that regard um mother frig
01:41:28.040um i have received guidance um of such immense nature um i think foremost when i am troubled
01:41:45.300i i reach out to the holy mother fig and ask her for guidance or perhaps a chance to recompose
01:41:57.020or what should i do upon recomposure um so i most certainly call out to her in a lot of self-reflection
01:42:06.380um and kind of uh more on the uh now that things have settled down or now that things are built up
01:42:13.420and uh you know what what nature of this moment should i really really seek um and i've had it
01:42:21.340an interesting i mean i i my daughter got a blue heron feather in the middle of the yard
01:42:27.520right as after i prayed to the holy freak about um her pregnancy my my wife's pregnancy of my
01:42:36.500daughter and i was very worried and i took that as just i still have it it's it's uh very very
01:42:43.640meaningful to me but also to um solace of spirit i i reach out to her in a sense of
01:42:56.440calming and clarity trying to figure out where i'm at what i am doing
01:43:01.960and i i often pray of course for protection of my family um and my children
01:43:07.880so it's hard when some of the icers energy is so very specific because yes they are holistic but
01:43:23.460some things are so defining it's hard to like have a different new hot take on whatever i don't think
01:43:33.680we need to reinvent the wheel. I'm going to repeat a lot of what Svahn said, maybe from
01:43:38.580a little bit different angle. But yeah, absolutely. Well, okay, I guess a couple of things.
01:43:50.620A lot of our gods do not come off as particularly snuggly.
01:43:58.280Our religion isn't one of coddling cowards and weaklings, but there's a big difference between that and loving, mothering, compassion, and warmth.
01:44:19.900We all deal with loss. We all deal with struggle. We all deal with pain and with stress.
01:44:28.280I think ladies look to Frigg for a very different reason than men do.
01:44:31.740She's certainly a patroness of all of our women at various different seasons of their life
01:44:38.600and different seasons of their relationships with their families.
01:44:43.920Um, but as men, I think that often I look to her for that mothering feeling, not as
01:44:59.900an excuse for weakness, but as a sympathetic ear, as a comfort, as a source of
01:45:14.240motherly wisdom and motherly stillness in dealing with crisis or with situations or
01:45:24.060with family things or anything that you deal with that warm mothering you know let me give you a hug
01:45:33.120and give you a little a little bit of wisdom to work through your situation but also very
01:45:41.100particularly as a protection and as a source of care for your children.
01:45:55.840And it's hard to even articulate that.
01:45:58.160It's not like a keep free from bad things happening to them.
01:46:02.240It's just asking her to extend, you know, a loving eye towards making sure your kids are loved and taken care of and protected and cared for.
01:46:57.680um well i was gonna say one thing too when you brought it up it made me think i remember holding
01:47:05.140bloat to um lady frig and two minute bloat but then the rest of the day uh just kind of
01:47:16.320the rumination that that lingers like a like a mist and having those revelations towards my
01:47:23.400children about how to raise them and um the best ways to go about doing that understanding perhaps
01:47:31.160the relationship with my parents and um for good or for bad um and also like i feel a direct cause
01:47:42.220and um you know uh correlation to her wisdom um when i like after bloat and just thinking and just
01:47:54.280kind of feeling like there's this wave of understanding coming towards me about making
01:47:59.860sure that my sons know that um i appreciate them um and then and that my daughter knows
01:48:07.920self-worth and um these just kind of these ruminations so i think for a lot of folks listening
01:48:14.280reaching out to the holy ice here is about exchanging gift but that gift is really about
01:48:23.380opening a doorway to their wisdom and as you you know you drink of their power they do in turn
01:48:32.800drink of your devotion and there's an exchange there and in that exchange there's we are always
01:48:39.120better off to learn um so oh i just you brought that up and it was like oh yeah they're things
01:48:46.320like that um lastly when it comes to the mysteries of anything any shadowed topic any any um i will
01:48:57.760sit for hours listening to these uh synopsis on strange uh titles or books like uh the you know
01:49:09.280the clava keelis uh or clavicle ulyss solomon or um you know uh any of like ancient grimoires or
01:49:22.080just mysteries of our past um the holy freya is my threshold uh prayer when i pray to her i ask her
01:49:35.040to show me in directions towards things i would never find and i have many times been given
01:49:42.960the blessing of coming across things that i just don't think i would have attained if i wasn't one
01:49:50.240hungry or asking um i think that as she is the holy goddess of um desire and it depends on what
01:50:00.820what your gold is it depends on what your desire is and what your love is and i i find her the one
01:50:07.960that guides me towards mysteries um towards revelations and even towards people who can
01:50:14.280give me those uh you know those lessons if you will i think she is definitely a tutelage
01:50:23.560um patroness for me and i i always seem to pray to her and in following after that there's always
01:50:32.340some sort of threshold or um an epiphany or a revelation that comes with that connection
01:50:40.480him. Um, I think that two things that come to
01:51:10.460mind with uh lady freya are like fun for lack of making it something deeper than that fun1.00
01:51:26.620enjoyment out of life and out of stuff out of learning out of um
01:51:33.900um I have a lot of things that you do and the second one is is obvious and I don't I do mean it
01:51:43.680as um I guess body as it sounds but I also mean it more than that and it's lust and I don't
01:51:53.340Yes, sexual lust, absolutely. But I also think lust for stuff, for achievement, for ambition, for learning, for getting the most, you know, visceral, best out of life.
01:52:17.660um i think that because of our social conditioning where we're at and some of this rightly so um i
01:52:29.540don't think that you know we want to be noble people but i think that sometimes we have a hard
01:52:38.000time pairing piety and nobility with i don't know um
01:52:50.560more carnal baser things and i think those things have a place it's a matter of the ordering of
01:52:57.680those things and the structuring of those things there's a time and a place in life for
01:53:03.200For sexuality, for like physicality, for embracing those more primal things, but in an ordered fashion that don't violate social appropriateness or right behavior.
01:53:31.020because that's an important thing people go down this road far too often and it's why I'm even
01:53:38.020hesitant saying it this way because a lot of people have done a great dishonor towards Freya
01:53:46.260by sheeping her in their portrayal of her and like hyper sexualizing her in an inappropriate way
01:53:56.100her name doesn't mean harlot her name means lady and it's important her name in and of itself and
01:54:06.280one of the most important aspects of understanding our gods is their naming because like i've said
01:54:15.300before she didn't come to somebody and say hi my name is freya we attributed a value to
02:02:22.080You'll have to turn on your microphone to do it, though.
02:02:24.900As much as I talked about nonverbal communication.
02:02:28.960Well, yeah, no, I think that was a great segue for a moment
02:02:33.420to just kind of give folks from our direct experiences
02:02:38.500our thoughts about the gods and how they interplay
02:02:41.720in the oar law of of the middle world um yeah i mean the body language one too is a huge one for
02:02:50.140me um studying a lot of that while i was in the marine corps because i was just exceedingly bored
02:02:55.700and the internet was not fully formed back then so i imagine you were in spots where that was
02:03:01.760probably very very helpful yes uh definitely with the with yes the non or not being able to
02:03:09.000communicate linguistically um a hundred percent and one of the things i think is that emotions
02:03:15.880transfer to the muscles of humans on a pretty broadly across um it doesn't matter um you know
02:03:25.080folk or or non-folk or certain cultures um that may you know emphasize certain things emotional
02:03:34.680output through musculature is is um i'm not saying it's one for one but it is
02:03:41.400most certainly kind of recognizable if you don't know the language you might
02:03:45.880you know um so like micro expressions and stuff like that very interesting subjects um
02:03:54.600and just talking about the gods in general being able to talk about the ice here um
02:04:00.200um to the audience or to to the chat and and uh kind of get a a layout of where we're coming from
02:04:08.840with a lot of this from our own personal um devotional um things and again to seeing the
02:04:15.720gods and they are woven in everything it is just about seeing them um and giving credence to it
02:04:25.820um so kveldolf sings a poem and he makes point of one thing there's a kenning in here when he
02:04:38.720talks about Thor's heavy wrestler this is a reference to time to um to the turning of time
02:04:49.640age uh and he says that uh because again the the the yachtins the deep ancient beings who are
02:05:00.360connected to forces that are being controlled by the gods or by the yachtins themselves the
02:05:08.680primordials um and the they are you know ever present um he's saying that he's he's growing
02:05:15.560old in age that time has withered him down and holds his weak limbs he cannot go and act revenge
02:05:23.080for the death of his son which i find you know just terrifying or in a way for myself or or just
02:05:33.160i don't ever want to be in that position where someone wrongs my children and i'm no longer able
02:05:38.840to protect them or help them so i found that really it did hit um
02:05:49.080so as it turns it kind of leaves off with skallagrim and feldolf saying one is deeply hurt
02:05:58.040the father and the other is filled with the need for some sort of retribution or vengeance
02:06:04.280And then we go back to who they were talking about, King Harald.
02:06:10.540So at that point in the summer, King Harald went to Upland, and in the autumn westwards to Valeris, and as far as Vores.
02:06:23.600was with the king and often spoke with him about whether he would pay atonement for Thorolf. So
02:06:34.920it's worth noting that Oliver was a friend of Thorolf's, was a friend of Bard the White, and
02:06:46.960had been with them in the main battle um fighting with the king against his foes and he has always
02:06:57.200been an a friend of kveldolf and of that farmstead um and so he's he's kind of running the
02:07:08.320peace, peaceable advice towards the king, always, and has been this entire time.
02:07:19.360Again, granting to Kveldolf and Skallagrim monetary compensation or such honor as would
02:07:28.100content them for the slaying of their son. The king did not altogether refuse this.0.55
02:07:35.780If father and son would come to him, whereupon Olver started northward to the Firths, nor stayed his journey till he came one evening to these two, or these twain, they received him gratefully, and he remained there for some time.
02:07:55.980So these are all really, you know, again, the atonement towards, if this is the death, then the
02:08:25.960glory attained from it alvar told him all that he asked and that the king herald was the one
02:08:34.760that gave him the wound that was alone enough to be his bane so be to be slain by the king instead
02:08:42.280of just again some i don't know rando and that thoroff fell at a very at the very feet of the
02:08:49.320king so this all brings a kind of overarching accumulative or log there's divinity at play
02:08:57.800and everything is is faded but it is faded well um in the sense that or at least greatly it's
02:09:05.800faded greatly then answered feldolf good is that thou tellest for tis an old saw that he will be
02:09:17.160avenged who falls forward so there's an old saying that whoever falls forward0.96
02:09:24.360is assuredly to be avenged if he falls backwards he's a craven uh coward and
02:09:32.920probably has no one to vouch for him um and that vengeance will reach him who stands before him0.98
02:09:40.360him when he falls. Yet, is it unlikely that such good fortune will be ours? Alvar told the father
02:09:51.420and son that he hoped, if they would go before the king, that they would crave atonement, that
02:09:59.720it would be a journey to their honor, and he bade them venture this, adding many words to that end.
02:10:06.220so he says instead of vengeance perhaps you should go before the king and grieve
02:10:15.940your loss and ask for some sense of of a recompense and again the king this was one
02:10:24.920of his best men so there may have been a fair amount of understanding that this is not
02:11:01.840nor do i think i shall long pray for atonement so in essence i'm gonna make that situation much much
02:11:10.320worse um says that he would not need to to do so we will do all the speaking for thee as well we
02:11:23.200can so he's he's uh offering to be the middle man and seeing that alvar pressed the matter strongly
02:11:31.040grim promised to go he could be ready and he and alvir set that set them a time when grim
02:11:39.920should come before the king then alvar went away first and returned to the king
02:11:46.080so alvir has arranged a meeting between the two again with the attempt of bringing all of this
02:11:54.240to a peaceful point so that there's no more inner fighting but now forward you know attainment i
02:12:03.120think that's ultimately albir's intention um chapter 25 scala grim's journey to the king
02:12:11.280scala grim made himself ready for the journey choosing out his household and his neighbors
02:12:17.200the strongest and the dopiest that were found because he i don't think he was a hundred percent
02:12:22.800sure that he wasn't rolling into uh into uh a trap or an ambush even though alvar i think he knows is
02:12:33.760good uh the king is who he doesn't trust so he gets the biggest and the best that he has
02:12:40.960one of them's name is is i want to make sure outie they don't put the uh the pronunciation
02:12:48.320on the english side auny a wealthy landowner another was gra
02:12:55.840granny and third was grim olf and his brother grim house carls these all of skalagrim
02:13:05.680and the two brothers thjorbjorn krum and thjord
02:13:11.200making i'm like checking over the old horse yeah um
02:13:21.760these were called thor thororon thororna's sons and she dwelt
02:13:29.920hard by scholar grim and was of magic skill bayagaldi was a was a coal biter
02:13:38.160so a cold biter is a child who doesn't set out0.54
02:13:46.020um into the world to make their own will they live at home the other thing is is that they1.00
02:13:52.800don't take over the responsibilities of the farm they're just kind of loafing so um
02:13:58.640an adorner of benches an adorner of bench yes and and and one who a grandma's bench
02:14:06.580many many yes the basement dweller if you're 40 or older you immediately picture the floral
02:14:17.120print couch i can viscerally feel it right now and i think the similar
02:14:24.060grandmother in the 1980s had this well and having egregious arguments with your enemies online
02:14:32.480while asking your grandfather to give you the pizza rolls and nuggies um i might be the room
02:14:41.600so at least in this sense what they're also trying to say um is that the two brothers
02:14:49.920is good and but he's bringing he's finally dragging his um his uh all too comfortable brother um
02:14:59.760Um, and there was also a man by the name of Thorir, giant, and his brother, Thorger, earthlong.
02:15:12.260And so, like, here we see, too, like, I know, like, I'm not 100% sure on Thorir and its meaning, but Thorger, uh, Thorger is, um, is, uh, spear.
02:15:25.800like the spear of thor i'm almost positive on that but look because like like in the the english
02:15:33.100name oscar or in the icelandic name auskir um earth long there was also odd lone dweller
02:15:43.000that's a awesome name and there was also greece freedman
02:15:51.54012 so he may have actually been a thrall at one point in his life um 12 there were for the journey
02:16:00.040to accompany skala grim all stalwart men and several of them shape strong so they were big
02:16:08.360um they took a rowing ship of skala grim and went southward along the coast
02:16:15.680stood into ostra firth i meant made mention that the word ostra is uh in use um and a first is a
02:16:26.860fjord in so like in the old norse it says ostra fjord um and so if anybody was wondering what
02:16:36.740a firth was but yes the usage of the word ostra meaning of the east was very much linguistically
02:16:44.360used um i just don't think our nordic uh to my knowledge at least honored her in that correct
02:16:55.440capacity perhaps because spring and and the dawning was not of as much a prevalence as say
02:17:01.300like central europe anyways uh so they traveled by land up to vars to the lake there and their
02:17:10.480course lying so that they must cross it they got a suitable rowing ship and ferried them over once
02:17:17.920they had not very far to go to the farm where the king was being entertained so they're not going to
02:17:24.160his stronghold um they are going because he's on kind of on uh tour if you will he's he's going to
02:17:33.520all of his retainers he's going to the men of of loyalty and of his court and he's he's being
02:17:39.920entertained by them and building frith and kinship with them um
02:17:46.960they came there at the time when the king was gone to table some men they found to speak with
02:17:54.400outside in the yard and asked what was going on this this being told them grim begged one to call
02:18:04.320oliver move to speak for him the man went into the room and up to where oliver sat and said there
02:18:10.400are men here outside newly come 12 together if men one if men one may call them for they are
02:18:20.080liker to giants and stature and semblance than mortal men so anybody reading along on the map
02:18:28.880this is one of the instances where the google auto translate fails us in a humorous way men
02:18:36.880have come out here 12 in all if you must call them men but they are more like turds in stature and
02:18:43.520appearance like human beings um i think that is a failure of the translation uh because it's
02:18:53.200meant to be that man they're imposing they look like giants but instead uh went a different way
02:19:03.040yeah and the word used in old norse is thursum yes i think that that the similarity of those
02:19:09.840things is what caught uh the translation software in a in a strange wise
02:19:16.880yeah so it's not too far off as far as the old norse goes it's just really far off in the
02:19:24.000translation for what the meaning goes right and and and so one is like man these guys are0.98
02:19:30.880badasses the other one is like these guys suck right there's a bunch of turds outside0.99
02:19:36.800yeah no no there's some trolls these guys are troll in size they're uh yeah one of them that0.99
02:19:45.680his like moniker is you know what's his face the thirst right well and i think too it's interesting
02:19:55.280to note this that um one not all of the um our you know our ancestors were of you know of the height
02:20:06.480normal to their people and then again there was these kind of just massive men and i think too
02:20:12.000it's really important uh because scala grim doesn't know if he's running into bad and so
02:20:18.720he's going to make it yeah he's bringing he's this is a really cool aspect of this and kind
02:20:28.560of a thing he's getting like an elite squad of guys to go down there he's like i'm going into
02:20:36.240the belly of the beast here so i'm gonna have my like my champions so these are
02:20:45.120these are like the best guys he can muster yeah even the culture you know is a big
02:20:53.200guy and so and foreboding looking like they don't know his home situation um
02:21:00.640Um, I just, I also found that funny too, that they mention it because that's clearly a negative
02:21:06.060trait amongst our ancestors. Um, Alvir at once rose and went out for he knew who they were and
02:21:16.380who had come. He greeted them well, his kinsmen, Scala Grim, or Grim as it's said here, and bade
02:21:22.800him go with him into the room. Grim said to his comrades, tis the custom here that men go
02:21:31.120weaponless before the king. Six of us shall go in and the other shall bide without and keep our
02:21:38.460weapons. They then entered and Alvar went up to the king, Scalagrim standing at his back. Alvar
02:21:47.560was spokesman here now is come grim kveldolfson we shall feel thankful to thee o king if thou
02:21:58.760make his journey hither a good one as we hope it will be many get great honor from thee to whom
02:22:06.760less is due and who are not nearly so accomplished as in as he is in every kind of skill thou wilt
02:22:15.560also do this because it is a matter of a moment to me if that is of any worth in thy opinion
02:22:25.480i i definitely feel like alvir is a very well spoken and um motivating advisor
02:22:35.560um alvir spoke fully and fluently for he was a man ready of words
02:22:41.400And many other friends of Alvar went before the king and pleaded this cause.
02:22:50.140The king looked around, saw that a man stood at Alvar's back, taller than the others, by a head, and was bald.
02:23:01.020Is that Skalagrim? asked the king, that tall man.
02:23:06.720Grim said he was, that he guessed rightly.
02:23:11.400I will then, said the king, if thou cravest atonement for Thorolf, that thou become my liege man, and enter my guard here, and serve me.
02:23:22.520Maybe I shall so like thy service that I shall grant thee atonement for thy brother, or other honor not less than I granted him.
02:23:32.120But thou must know how to keep it better than he did.
02:23:36.000if if i make thee a great man as great a man as he as was he so there's you know you you should
02:23:46.400fall into service to me and i can make you as great of a man as i made thoral these are not
02:31:07.200Also, he had been his foster father. So, again, Harold's mother, since his father was slain, and that was part of the reason why he said he was not going to clean his hair, the mother's brother, uncle, if you will, takes over and fostering like a godfather.
02:31:29.520This is the same situation that is emulated between Bestla and Mimir and Lord Odin.
02:31:41.100So you can see that cultural significance there.
02:31:46.740He also had been foster father and ruler over his forces for the king when he was a child and when he first came to the throne.
02:31:53.200Guttorm had commanded the army in all battles which Harold had fought to bring the land under
02:31:59.060his sway. So now we see this older father figure uncle who has commanded his armies and you know
02:32:08.060is his tactician and always kind of been in service to the king even when he was too young.
02:32:14.260But when Harold became sole king of all of Norway and sat in peace then he gave to his kinsmen
02:32:20.580gutorm westfold and east agdir and ringeriki um wow the ring kingdom
02:32:32.900uh riki is uh like significant to the same as the word reich in german uh i believe so and that's
02:32:40.580like a name of a viking art style as well oh maybe there was yeah like fines there
02:32:48.020yeah i assume so like yelling or anything else that yeah
02:32:54.180oh and and all the land that had belonged to half don's half dan swarthy half half dane half danish
02:33:03.700uh the black his father good or like chocolatey pete yeah yeah well it's like i mean it was so0.52
02:33:14.900so like it's so bad it's like is he half danish oh you know i don't know i just that's crazy or0.87
02:33:26.380maybe if you got it's just funny in this day and age like in halstead like norse culture if a guy
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02:38:05.120ix uh skiller ecky eastlands right barra small vase eastland school
02:45:11.400I don't know if there would be a pronounced N-A.
02:45:15.520But the reign of battle is what her name means.
02:45:18.000Because Ragnar means like a reign, like a king's reign or a time of power.
02:45:25.080And then the last was, of course, Auslaw, Law of the Gods.
02:45:33.400So Gutorn falls sick and when near his end, sent to King Harald, bidding him to see his children and his province.
02:45:46.880Soon after this, he died. Upon hearing his death, the king summoned Halvard, hardfarer, and his brother and told them to go on a message for him eastward to Vick. Vick means bay.
02:46:03.300uh he being then in throndheim they made great preparations for their journey choosing them
02:46:11.540men and the best ship that they could get and it was that the very ship that was taken from
02:46:17.160thor gail's yeller who was the house carl of thorolf but when they were ready the king told
02:46:25.740them their errand they were to go eastward to tunsberg the market town where gutorm had resided
02:46:34.940ye shall said the king bring to me gutorm's sons but his daughter shall be fostered there
02:46:42.780till i bestow them in marriage i will find men to take charge of the province and and foster
02:46:50.220the maidens so this is his uncle and he immediately calls out to have um his uncle's
02:46:58.620sons brought to him and to to join him um and again i i say this because the way that things
02:47:05.420are translated sometimes there's always this sense of like what's gonna happen now or there's some
02:47:11.900sort of plot motive but you have to understand when reading the saga sometimes the way it's
02:47:17.260written does not indicate that there will be some sort of grand uh thing and then sometimes when it
02:47:24.940does happen it's it's you know after a while so just don't get caught up in the ideas like oh no
02:47:31.900you know is he gonna assassinate them or i you know every time i read sagas i always get into
02:47:35.740that kind of mindset and i gotta tell myself no it's just it's the way it's written what he's he's
02:47:41.820doing um so the brothers started with fair wind and came eastward into vic and to tunsberg and
02:47:50.460they declared their errand they took the sons of gutorm and much movable property and went their
02:47:55.980way back the wind was then somewhat slack and their voyage slower but nothing happened till
02:48:03.100they sailed northward over the son sea having a good wind and bright weather and being merry in
02:48:11.900mood so again too you're going to find a lot of the um the way in which they traveled to and from
02:48:18.060iceland uh was by boat and so there's a heavy emphasis on the conditions of things um
02:48:28.700um without it really and it's not predicating something um
02:48:37.660so in chapter 27 the slaying of halvar and secret all through the summer kveldolf and
02:48:50.540skallagrim kept a lookout shorewards on the highway of vessels on the ocean
02:48:56.780okay so pause for a second before we get deep into this um i sent nick a picture because i mentioned
02:49:02.860the ringer reiki style and it's a specific viking art style right just so people understand
02:49:13.340kind of what it looks like and that's from archaeological finds that they find there
02:49:19.500it's funny because there's a number of different ages of viking styles but this is one of
02:49:25.100i think this is like the second from the latest i think yelling is the
02:49:31.580latest era viking style art and ringerike was the one before
02:49:41.020um but anyways it's neither here nor there it's just kind of cool and i thought it's a
02:49:45.900a reference if people are interested in i don't know art or archaeology or both
02:49:51.020and yeah and it's geography or any where any of those three things mix the yeah the tangibility
02:49:58.220as well um having something from the the place we're talking about is kind of cool
02:50:05.800um so we go back to kveldolf and skullagrim father and son and they they're kind of edge
02:50:14.720they're they're ever since the meeting with the king they've been trying to keep an eye out
02:50:20.000waiting at any moment for someone to roll up and try to enact the king's revenge.
02:50:28.760Skalagrim was very sharp-sighted. He saw Halvard's company sailing by, and he knew the ship,
02:50:35.860for he had seen them before when Thorgils went with it. Skalagrim watched their course and
02:50:44.860where they lay into haven at eventide then he went back to his own people and told kveldolf
02:50:52.540what he had seen and with all how he had recognized the ship being that which was thorolf's and was
02:50:59.420taken by halvard from his house carl thorgils and doubtless there there were some men on board
02:51:09.420who would be worth catching so they made ready with both of their boats and 20 men each
02:51:17.180kveldof steered one skala grim the other and when they rode they made for the ship
02:51:22.300but when they came there came where it lay they put it they put into land halvard's men had set
02:51:30.060up a tent over the ship so this is um when they take the sail and they they can't it
02:51:36.700they draw the ship up and over and then they can't the mast down or loose the mast and then they place
02:51:45.740the the um uh sail down and and tack it so that they can camp underneath it um
02:51:59.260let's see and they uh and they had laid down to sleep but when kveldov's force
02:52:03.660had come upon them the watchmen who sat at the gangway and leapt up and called out to the ship
02:52:14.060they bade the men to rise an enemy was upon them halvard's party leapt to their weapons but when
02:52:21.580felled off with his men came to the gangway end he went out by this by the stern gangway
02:52:28.060while skala grim went forward to the other gangway
02:52:33.500uh feldorf had in in his hand a battle axe but when he got on board he bade his men go
02:52:40.940along the outer way of the of the gunwale and cut the tent from its forks while he himself rushed
02:52:48.860aft to stern uh stern uh stern castle um i guess was the folks all right or no that's the forward
02:52:58.060castle sorry and uh it is said that he he had then had a fit of shape strength so this is a part
02:53:06.940where his hammer comes into play kveldorf has always had this and so and he's an old man now
02:53:14.540but when he gets on on the he's on he's fixing to send people on hell's road he starts to rage
02:53:25.020that's what they mean here too by taking that shape strength um
02:53:31.980and so as he said he in a fit of shape strength as had also several of his comrades so there were
02:53:38.700more you know berserker minded or sold men and they slew anyone that came their way the same
02:53:46.220did skala grim where he boarded the ship nor did nor did father and son stay their hands until the
02:53:55.020ship was completely cleared so they they kill everyone and when kveldorf came aft to stern
02:54:04.060castle he brandished high his battle axe and smote the leader there halvard right through helm and
02:54:12.140head so that the axe sank in even to the shaft so that the shaft is now resting on his skull
02:54:20.780and the blade is buried fully through then he snatched it back towards him so forcibly
02:54:27.340that he whirled halvard aloft so when he hits him and he pulls back uh it's so buried deep into
02:54:37.340all of the inner cockles of his skull and helmet that it doesn't let go but pinches the axe blade
02:54:44.140and he comes flying with it and he is slung over the edge of the boat
02:54:50.620Scalagrim clears the forecastle. He slays Sigtryg. Many men plunged into the sea, but Scalagrim's
02:54:59.620men took one of the boats and rode after them and slew all the ones that were trying to swim away.
02:55:07.540There were lost with Halvard 50 men. The ship and the wealth that was in it, Scalagrim's men
02:55:15.720now took two or three men whom they deemed at least note they seized and gave them their lives
02:55:23.340asking of them who had been in the ship and what had been the purpose of the voyage after learning
02:55:29.980all the truth about this they looked over the slain who lay on the shipboard it was found that
02:55:36.440more had leapt overboard and so had perished than had fallen on the ship the sons of guton had
02:55:44.500leapt overboard and perished in the water of these one was only 12 years old the other 10
02:55:52.100and both were lads of fair promise so um in this act of revenge they had already gained
02:56:02.200good dorm songs harold's uncle and were on their way back when this all took place and instead of
02:56:10.440fighting because they were young kids. They didn't know what to do. So they leapt and, uh,
02:56:16.280were gone. Um, then Scalagrim set free the men whose lives he had spared and bade them that
02:56:23.080they go to the king, Harold, and tell him the whole tale of what had happened and who had been
02:56:28.440the doers of it. Ye shall also, said he, bear to the king this poem, or the ditty, as he says,
02:56:39.120but it's a the the the short song or kiddling so we're into that portion of this poem where
02:56:48.080they are busting rhymes at uh at key moments and it's hard to know because it's written down later
02:56:58.740but the idea that they could quickly like compose a verse like hey you know tell them this
02:57:08.080is really kind of cool and it you know any silliness aside it speaks to a
02:57:16.420intelligence and a quickness of wit uh and eloquence that is really brought out in this saga
02:57:27.280well and also the uh the alliterative rhyming is almost like an not an encoded way but it's
02:57:36.340like a guaranteed way that the king will hear the literal words spoken from the mouth
02:57:43.660of of kveldolf uh or sorry excuse me skallagrim um letting the king know
02:57:52.600so it's it's it's also kind of brutal he's like you know tell him what happened here but i want
02:57:59.120you to specifically memorize this alliterative poem so that you can speak back word for word
02:58:05.720what uh you know what what i'm about to say and he says for a noble warrior slain vengeance now
02:58:16.960on the king is taken wolf and eagle tread as prey prince is born to sovereign sway
02:58:25.800halvard's body cloven through headlong into the billows flew wounds of white once swift to fair
03:14:24.140skallagrim you know he names the land he takes the land um skallagrim came to land where a large
03:14:33.820nests ran out into the sea and above the nest was a narrow ismuth and there they put out the lading
03:14:44.300that nest was called ship nests or ship's peninsula and then skallagrim spied out the land
03:14:52.540there was much more land and wide woods so here at this point there's uh rolling hills of grass
03:15:01.340and and um patches of the of these kind of like low brush thick evergreen style um
03:15:10.300you know copses of trees and forests or which again still kind of misleading
03:15:15.820compared to say like norwegian forests um so and a broad space between the fells and the first
03:15:25.420so in between the land and the fjords that cut into them seal hunting was plenty and there was
03:15:32.380good fishing but as they spied out the land southward along the sea they found before them
03:15:38.780a large fjord or firth and turning inward along this fjord they stayed not there going till they
03:15:47.820found their companions grim the hollow alunder and the rest of them and a joyful meeting was there
03:15:55.020They told Skalagrim of his father's death, and how Kveldolf had come to land there, and that they had buried him.
03:16:04.000Then they led Skalagrim to that place, and it seemed to him that thereabouts would be a good spot to build his homestead.
03:16:12.920He then went away and back to his shipmates, and for that winter each party remained where they had come upon the land.
03:16:20.080Then Skalagrim took land between the fells and the firths, all the moors, out to the sea lake, or, sorry, excuse me, seal lake, sea lock, and up into the upper land of Borkrhron, and southwards to Hrapnafell, Ravensfell, and all that land from the watershed to the sea.
03:16:45.820so he just takes a huge chunk of land next spring he moves the ship southward to the fjord and then
03:16:55.620into the creek close to where kveldof came to land and and they mean the creek as like a
03:17:00.560a fingered inlet of the of the fjord um and there he set his homestead and he called it
03:17:07.740Bork. And the Firth, he called it Borkerfirth. And so, too, the countryside further up, they named after this Firth or fjord.
03:17:21.660To Grim, the Halogalander, he gave a dwelling place south of Borkerfer, on the shore, and he named it Phanir.
03:17:38.680A little beyond this, a bay of no great size cuts into the land.
03:17:44.880There they found many ducks, wherefore they called it Duck Kill.
03:17:51.660Um, and again, the ducks could also, maybe it was also puffins, but yeah, birds and fowls. Um,
03:18:00.600and the river that fell into the sea there, they called it Duck Kiel River. From this river to the
03:18:07.420river, they called the Grimm's River and the land stretching upwards between them. So at this point
03:18:13.520in the saga, because they're noting geography, it's important, I think, historically, but at the
03:18:20.120time it was more for the listeners to kind of immediately relate the lands by name that they
03:18:29.000knew and where these you know original settlers had had uh took in root and that you know oh wow
03:18:37.560you know my ancestor my was probably one of all those men or you know or one of one of grimm's
03:18:45.800meant or or what also a fun side note or whatever the icelandic word for settler is uh lands no
03:18:55.480mother is like the land the land naming man yeah the land naming or yeah part of settling was like
03:19:05.000pointing at stuff and giving it its name right and so i mean a lot of that is clearly going on
03:19:12.680in this in this yeah and all the sagas kind of have you know uh effects towards that that's why
03:19:20.200land taking when you when you came and took the land of thorsof and we walked the property with
03:19:28.280a flame and uh went to all the thresholds this is really important in our uh cultural religious
03:19:38.040worldview um so here in grim grim's uh river he had this land that same spring scholar grim had
03:19:52.360all of his cattle driven inward along the sea and they came to a small nest where they caught some
03:19:57.880swans uh so they called it swan nests uh the peninsula of the swans and scholar grim gave
03:20:05.400land to his shipmates the land between long river and havesbrook he gave to auni who dwelt in
03:20:14.440anabreka his son anund syoni uh and about this was the controversy of thorstein and tongue odd
03:20:26.840um so again a lending to that but i will say tongue odd is a nickname most likely because
03:20:34.520he had a speech impediment. Grani dwelt at Grannsted in Degrannes. To Thorbjörn Krum he gave land
03:20:50.040of Guver River and upward, and to Thord of Bejagaldi Krum dwelt at Krum's hills, but Thjord at Bejagaldi.
03:21:01.880To Thorir, the giant, and his brothers, he gave land upwards from Einkönur and the outer part of the Long River. Thorir giant dwelt at Giantstead.
03:21:18.380His daughters were Thordis Stong, who afterwards dwelt in Stangerholt.
03:21:26.760Thorgreir dwelt at Earthlongstead, or Yardlongstodden.
03:21:37.260Skalagrim spied out land upwards all around the countryside.
03:21:41.220First, he went inward along Mountain Fjord, or Bjorker Fjord, to its head, and then followed west the bank of the river, which he called White River, because he and his companions had never before seen waters that fell from glaciers, and the color of the river seemed to them a wonderful color.
03:22:09.980and was before them coming down the fells to the north this they called north river and they
03:22:19.140followed it up until yet again before them was a river bringing down but little water
03:22:24.980this river they crossed and still went along the north river then they soon saw where the
03:22:31.260little river fell out of a cleft. They call this the Cleaver or Cleave River. Then they crossed
03:22:37.700North River, went back down White River, and followed that upwards. Soon again, the river
03:22:43.060crossed away and fell into White River. This they called the Cross River, and there they learned
03:22:49.260every river was full of fish. After this, they returned back to Bork.
03:23:01.260So now here we, chapter 29 of Skala Grimm's industry. So now at this point, this is all about Skala Grimm's setting up his, his land and all of the things that involve that.0.89
03:23:17.580Scalagrim was most industrious, uh, industrious. He had about him always many men whom he set to0.56
03:23:27.420seek diligency, all sorts of provisions as, as could be got from, for men, uh, for men's
03:23:35.440sustenance, because at first they had, but little livestock compared to the needs of their numerous
03:23:41.780company but what livestock they had and went every winter self-feeding in into the wilds
03:23:49.620skallagrim was a good shipwright and westwards into a mirror was no lack of driftwood he had
03:23:57.540buildings set up on swan nests and had another house there this he made a a starting point for
03:24:04.420sea fishing for seal hunting and for the gathering of eggs and all these kinds there was a plenty of
03:24:11.460provision to get as well as driftwood to bring back to him whaling also came in there and
03:24:19.620whoso would might shoot them all such creatures were then tame on the hunting grounds
03:24:25.780as they were unused to the presence of men his third house he had on the sea in western mirror
03:24:32.820This was even a better place to look out for driftwood. There, too, he had land sown and called it Acres.
03:24:44.980Over against it lay islands among which whales were found. They were called the Whale Islands.
03:24:55.600Skalagrim also sent his men up on the Salmon Rivers and into the land to fish.
03:25:01.740He set Odd Lone House by Cleve River to see the salmon fishing there. Odd dwelt under Lone House. Lone House Ness has its name from him. Sigmund was the name of the man whom Skalagrim sent to North River.
03:25:20.600He dwelt at what was then called Sigmundstead, but now is Hawa. Sigmundurnes takes its name from him. He afterward moved his homestead to Munnodurnes, that being thought more convenient for salmon fishing.
03:25:46.020but as scollagrim's livestock multiplied the cattle used to go up to the fels and
03:25:52.980in the summer and he found that the cattle that went you know onto the heath were by far better
03:25:58.800and fatter when they returned also sheep did well there as well so basically this is kind of saying
03:26:04.840like the one unknown thing to a lot of people that travel to iceland is that the grass and
03:26:41.200Thus, Skalagrim's wealth had many legs to stand upon.
03:26:47.280Sometime after Skalagrim's coming out, or at least traveling over to Iceland, a ship put into Borkerfjörd from the main, commanded by a man named Ólevi, Ólevi Holt.
03:27:04.760With him was his wife, his children, and other of his kinsmen.
03:27:10.080And the aim of his voyage was to get him a home in Iceland.
03:27:14.540Olev was a man of wealth, highborn, and foreseeing.
03:27:20.860Skalagrim asked Olev and all of his company to his house and for lodging, so he invites them to stay.
03:27:28.400olav accepts this and was with skull skullagrim for his first winter in iceland
03:27:35.600but in the following spring skullagrim showed him to a choice piece of land
03:27:43.200towards from grimm's river to folk folkadale river accepted this and moved there with his household
03:27:51.600set there his homestead by Warmbrook, as it was called, and he was a man of great renown.
03:27:59.280His sons were Rai in Hot Springdale and Thorarin, Ragi's brother who took the law
03:28:09.780speakership next after Hrappna Hainson, because Hain, the first Gothi, was his youngest son,
03:28:22.960Raven. So now of Olev, his son, Rai, took that position after. And they dealt at Warmbrook,
03:28:36.480and he had a wife her name was thordis um daughter of olaf chai sister of thor uh yeller
03:28:50.320or yeah loud thordar yellis um so now we just get to see some kind of names and their kind
03:28:59.280of relations to each other and even though skalagrim had settled this land he doesn't chase
03:29:04.800off olaf but instead bids him just to stay the winter and then when the thawing of towards spring
03:29:13.280i've already you know scoped out all this land but there's really good land over here so let's
03:29:17.920go and check it out and then olaf took it and they became all kind of of of a of a clan if you will
03:29:25.360So, chapter 30, of the coming of Ingvar and of Skalagrim's iron forging.
03:29:34.900So, again, Eil Saga goes all the way back to his, you know, his uncle and his grandfather, and now this is his father and the focus on him.
03:29:46.940So, King Harald Fairhair took for his own all those lands that Kveldolf and Skalagrim had left him in Norway, and all their other property that he could lay his hands upon.
03:30:00.440He also sought diligently after those men who had been in the councils and the confidence or in any way helpers of Skullagrim and his folk in the deeds which they wrought before Skullagrim went abroad and so far stretched the enmity of the king against the father and the son that he bore hatred against their kith and their kin and any whom he knew to have been their dear friends.
03:30:27.440some suffered punishment from him many fled away and sought refuge some within the land
03:30:34.420some out of the land altogether Ingvar Skalagrim's wife's father so his father-in-law
03:30:43.840was one of these men aforementioned this read did he take he so he finds out that this is going on
03:30:53.300and his decree against Skalagrim's kith and kin has been made.
03:30:57.920So he turns all of his wealth that he could into movables
03:31:01.920and then went seagoing on a ship with a crew thereto
03:40:38.400that's the beauty of it too as you get to see these things um
03:40:45.520and as a child he grew up to be tall and was a fair countenance much like his uncle it was
03:40:52.320the talk of all that that he would be just just as such another as his thorolf after whom
03:41:00.000whom he was far beyond children of his own age and strength. As he grew to manhood, he
03:41:08.000became doughty and most accomplished in vogue among those who were well-trained. So he took
03:41:18.340to the to fighting arts and and strength thoroff was a right of a right cheery mood
03:41:28.900come to such full strength as be deemed fit for warlike service with other men he was soon a
03:41:36.740favorite with all his father and his mother loved him very well skala grim and his wife
03:41:44.820had two daughters one whose name was sion or sea wise and the other uh thor's rune
03:41:58.500um they were they were of great promise as they grew up as well then skallagrim and his wife had
03:42:04.660yet another son he was sprinkled with water and named and his name was aiel but as he grew up it
03:42:13.220was soon seen that he would be ill favored like his father he had dark black hair
03:42:22.580when but three years old he was as tall and as strong as other boys who were six or seven
03:42:29.860he was soon talkative and word wise somewhat ill to manage was he at play with other children
03:42:38.340So, quick to temper, but wise with words.
03:42:46.800That spring, Ingvar went to Bork, his errand being to bid Skalagrim to a feast at his house.
03:42:57.160So Ingvar, remember, is Skalagrim's father-in-law, or Bera's father, and he wanted to hold a
03:43:07.480feast. He also named for the party his daughter Bera and Thorolf, her son, and any others that
03:43:15.100Skalagrim would like to bring. Skalagrim promised to come. Ingvar then went home, prepared for
03:43:21.960banquet, and had ale brewed. But when the set time came that Skalagrim and Bera should come to feast,
03:43:32.120Thorolf made him ready to go with them, as also the housecarls, so they were fifteen in number all.
03:43:41.140Eil told his father that he wished to go.
03:43:44.480I am, he says, as much akin to Ingvar as is Thorolf.0.98
03:43:49.800You shall not go, said Skalagrim, for you know not how to behave yourself in the company where there is much drinking.
03:43:57.640you who are not good to deal with though uh yes when uh though you be sober he's like you're bad0.95
03:44:07.100enough drunk you're hard enough when you're sober skallagrim mounted his horse and rode away but
03:44:13.420ale was of ill content with his lot he went out of the yard and found a draft horse of skallagrims
03:44:20.960got on his back, and rode after the party. No easy way had he over the moor, for he did not
03:44:29.880know the road, but he kept his eyes on the riders before him when a copse of wood were not in the
03:44:37.920way. And this is to tell of his journey. The late in the evening he came to Swan Ness when men sat
03:44:47.280there a-drinking. He went into the room, but when Ingvar saw Eil, he received him joyfully
03:44:53.940and asked why he had come so late. Eil took of his words, told of his words with Skalagrim.
03:45:01.560Ingvar made Eil sit by him. They too sat opposite Skalagrim and Thorolf. For merriment over the
03:45:09.220ale they fell to reciting poetry and ale recited this stanza hasting i came to the hearth fire
03:45:22.420of ingvar right fame so to find him him who on heroes bestoweth gold that the heather worn
03:45:34.820guardeth. Thou of the snake's shining treasure, always a generous giver. Wilt not then me of
03:45:46.180three winters doughtier song, Smith, discover? So he says to him, you know, you're a giver
03:45:53.800of gold. The snake's shining treasure, the dragon, the one that resides beneath,
03:46:02.380that gives much gold out. And he says that you will see, too, that I will be a strong poet that
03:46:12.200will spread your, you know, your good name. And Ingvar praised this stanza and thanked Eyal very
03:46:22.140much, therefore. But on the morrow, he brought to Eyal, as a reward for the poem, three sea snail
03:46:31.140shells and a duck's egg and next day at the drinking ale recited another state so it's
03:46:37.600worth remembering ale is a young lad he's not a a man he's he's probably a young teenager at this
03:46:44.900point uh he says the wielder of keen biting wound fowl gave unto ale the talker three silent dogs
03:46:58.440of the surf swell so um this is an interesting point to say the wielder of the keen biting wound
03:47:06.440foul the wound foul is either a sword or an arrow but that he's he's calling his his um uh
03:47:16.760great uncle um he's calling him a great warrior and he refers to himself as ale the talker
03:47:23.560and he gives three silent dogs of the surf swell meat for the praise in this poem in his poem he
03:47:32.920the skilled guide of the seahorse knowing to please with a present gave as forth gift to young
03:47:39.700ale a round egg the brook bird's bed bolster so in this part here he's emphasizing that his
03:47:47.520alliterative nature of being able to take random objects and turn them into a poetic stanza
03:47:55.120and um by doing that cleverly and fitting in kennings and also speaking well of ingvar
03:48:04.000he's doing kind of everyone a great favor but also there are people there memorizing these poems um
03:48:11.840so in essence he's immortalizing him in the cultural context
03:48:17.520ale his poetry won him many thanks for many men no more tidings were there of that journey
03:48:25.480ale went home with skallagrim so there's no mention of whether or not his father was upset
03:48:30.680that he kind of went against his word but he certainly proved his father wrong as far as
03:48:37.720making sure that everything was very very good when he left
03:48:41.240chapter 32 of lord Brynjolf and Bjarn his son there was in song a lord named Bjarn a rich man
03:48:59.100he dwelt at Arland his son was Brynjolf who was
03:49:05.140huh who was sole heir to all his father's wealth brynyov's son was bjorn okay that's the part that
03:49:16.180got me confused it's like oh so his father and he named his son after his father and he had another
03:49:21.860son named thorda they were young when what what has been just told happened bjorn was a great
03:49:30.900traveler, sometimes on freebooting or going a Viking, sometimes on trading voyages. He was a
03:49:38.740right doughty man or a tough, strong man. It was so chanced that one summer Bjorn was present at a
03:49:45.500banquet attended by many. He saw there a fair maiden who pleased him well. He asked of what
03:49:52.520family she was and was told that she was the sister of lord thore proldson and was named thora
03:50:01.720with the by name lace hand so she had gained a a moniker a title and she was again a creator of
03:50:13.860lace which is no small task and um again being a highborn woman creating lace for other highborn
03:50:24.420women bjorn made his suit and asked thora to be his wife but thorir refused his offer so he said
03:50:37.460that his daughter would not marry you know they're not gonna he's not gonna give the blessing
03:50:42.500and with this they parted but that same autumn bjorn took men and went with a cutter a type of
03:50:50.800ship well equipped northward into the fjords and came to thoris when he was not at home
03:50:57.900bjorn took thora away thence home so now i mean it's not she probably didn't resist but
03:51:10.640this is going to start causing some, some issues. Um, they were, they too were there for the winter
03:51:19.580and Bjorn would feign hold a wedding with her. Brynjolf, his father ill, uh, liked what Bjorn
03:51:27.400had done. He thought there was dishonor therein. So ill liked, so he did not like what, what, um,
03:51:36.320bjorn had done whereas there had been air this long friendship between thore and brenyal
03:51:46.320yeah the uses of the word ill not meaning meaning sickness but of
03:51:53.680incorrect or moralist action um so far said he bjorn from your holding a wedding with thora
03:52:05.360here in my house without the leave of her brother she shall be here as well respected as if she were
03:52:12.720my daughter and your sister all had to be as brynyov ordered in his household whether bjorn
03:52:20.400liked it well or ill brynyov sent men to to thorir to offer him an atonement and redress
03:52:27.920for what bjorn had done kind of whisking his daughter off in um in a uh what what do they
03:52:36.160call it again um like a shotgun wedding um i don't know i always forget that the term for it
03:52:47.120um but when spring or to offer atonement thore bade brenjolf send thor a home no atonement
03:52:57.360could there be else than that but Bjorn would in no wise let her go though Brynjolf begged it
03:53:05.920and so the winter wore on but when spring came then Brynjolf and Bjorn were talking one day
03:53:13.280on their matters Brynjolf asked that Bjorn meant what uh what Bjorn meant to do Bjorn said
03:53:19.520It was likeliest that he should go away out of the land.
03:53:25.520Most of my mind it is, he said, that you should give me a long ship and crew, and I go a Viking.
03:53:34.920There's no hope in this, said Brynjolf, that I shall put in your hands a warship and a strong force.
03:53:41.920for I know not but you will go about just what is against my wish why even now already
03:53:50.880I have had enough trouble with you a merchant ship I'll give you I'll give you where's within
03:53:57.620and you go southward across the sea to Ireland and to Dublin that voyage is now
03:54:04.220more highly spoken of and I will get get you a good crew
03:54:09.000Bjorn said he would take his father as his father willed. So he had good merchant ship ready
03:54:18.920and got men for it. They went now and made him ready for his voyage, but with some time about
03:54:24.980it. But when he was quite ready and a fair wind blew, he embarked to Ireland on a boat with 12
03:54:32.360men and rode into our land not ireland but ireland in iceland and they went up to the homestead
03:54:40.600and to his mother's bower she was sitting there with many women thora was there bjorn and thora
03:54:50.280bjorn said thora should go with him to ireland and they led her away but his mother bade that
03:54:56.840the women not dare to let them know this was within the hall so not to speak outside of this
03:55:03.720Brynjolf had she said would be in a sad way if he knew and this would bring about great mischief
03:55:10.520between father and son but Thora's clothes and trinkets were all laid there ready to hand
03:55:16.920and Bjorn and his men took all with them so at this point um
03:55:22.600you know, Bjorn and Thora quite keen on each other. He's not about to leave and go to Ireland
03:55:30.180without his new wife. And so he takes, takes her, you know, with him. And this isn't a settlement
03:55:38.560thing. This is for business. But once Brynjolf, the father, you know, would find out about this,
03:55:45.340He would be very, very upset, especially considering he's now taking, um, the situation between, um, you know, him and, and, uh, uh, Lord Thorir, um, he's taking Thorir's daughter out of the country.
03:56:03.580um then they went that night out to their ship and at once hoisted sail and sailed from son sea
03:56:14.180and so to the main they had an ill wind and before which they they must needs run they were long
03:56:22.480tossed about upon the main because they were bent and shunning norway at all hazards and so it was
03:56:29.660that one day they were sailing off the coast of Shetland during a gale and break their ship and
03:56:35.680making land at, at Moe's Mossy. They got out the cargo and went into town that was there carrying
03:56:43.920all their wares and they drew up their ship and repaired their damages. So thankfully they didn't
03:56:49.920sink, but they, it was not going to, as according to plan. So now they're in the Shetland Islands.
03:56:59.660um chapter 33 Bjorn goes to Iceland so a little bit of your soothing sounds have uh calmed young
03:57:13.040Irene um we are joined by Githya Anna in the uh in the chat and just of note uh she is up super
03:57:24.020late because the baby's being fussy until the soulful sounds of Svanur Guthreikni has put her
03:57:34.040at ease. Oh, well, I see too, Finraith asked a question about Icelandic Yule trees. No,
03:57:42.720they don't really do Yule trees in Iceland. They put shoes in the windows and the Yule lads come
03:57:49.960up um and give gifts of of candy and things in in the windows up until um christmas eve and then
03:58:00.280i think uh christmas day the the the graveyard is lit with lights and and there's a lot of uh
03:58:07.400festive you know like going about and walking around and and you know singing and having fun
03:58:13.960in reykvik um but yeah there's no it's the fireplace and the windows is the main focus
03:58:21.800of most icelandic yules because y'all ain't got no trees right here but and i love it but
03:58:30.360yeah there's no it sounds like a thing up uh further you went up north in alaska you start
03:58:36.840getting up north of the arctic circle and trees get real spindly real quick they start looking
03:58:43.080like the little charlie brown trees at best
03:58:51.160but yeah just interjecting that and acknowledging our folks over in the chat
03:58:56.760we are making cool progress i hope everybody is into it because i certainly am i know we've got
03:59:05.080you know what 13 chapters or so left but i think this is super cool and i
03:59:13.240appreciate the opportunity to get to go back over it oh i thought yeah were we stopping at 40
03:59:20.360we are going all the way through chapter 46 we're stopping at the top of 47. gotcha um
03:59:28.200A little before winter came a ship from the south out of the Orkney Islands with the tidings that
03:59:38.320a long ship had come in autumn to those islands. Therein were messengers of King Harold. With this
03:59:45.920errand to Earl Sigurd that the king would give Bjorn Brynjolfsson's slain wherever he might be
03:59:54.180found and the same message herald sent to the southern islands and even all the way to dublin
04:00:02.740so the southern isles being scotland and england um bjorn finds this out and with all that he
04:00:13.060that he was outlawed in norway and had this
04:00:15.940um title over his head of being you know you could slay him uh forthwith on reaching
04:00:25.480shetland bjorn had held his wedding with thora and through the winter they stayed in uh in uh
04:00:33.400mossy yarbyark in the in the town there but in spring as soon as ever the sea began to calm
04:00:41.120bjorn drew forth his ship and made him ready with all speed and when he was ready and got wind he
04:00:46.640sailed out to the main they had a strong breeze where but little time out air they came to the
04:00:53.840south coast of iceland so they're heading back the wind was blowing on the land when it bore them
04:00:59.440westward along the coast and so out to sea but when they got a shift of wind they turned back again
04:01:05.600and they sailed for the land so they they're coming across the south end of iceland and the
04:01:11.360wind just pushes them so then they have to kind of slowly wait and then turn and head back
04:01:18.320they sailed into a large wondrous fjord and the wind bearing them towards the western shore
04:01:24.480landwards nothing was seen but breakers and harborless shore then they stood slantwise across
04:01:30.480the wind as they might but still eastward till a fjord lay over against against them and into it
04:01:38.160which they sailed so this is something worth noting too because they got overshot and not all
04:01:43.440of iceland is settled they they just ended up kind of going further and they're starting to see
04:39:31.440and she doesn't come back out of the water um the water there is now called brocker sound
04:39:39.840but afterwards in the evening when they came home to berg ale was very angry skala grim and
04:39:47.040everybody else were were set at table but ale was not yet to come to his place he went into the fire
04:39:53.200hall and up to the man who there had been overseeing the work and the management of the money of the
04:39:59.040farm and was most dear to him. Eil dealt him a death blow, then went to his seat. Skalagrim
04:40:07.200spoke not a word about it then, and thenceforth the matter was kept quiet. But father and son
04:40:13.940exchanged no word of good or bad, and so the winter passed. So Eil basically kills his father's foreman
04:40:25.140And he does this in vengeance because his father killed his friend.
04:40:34.240You know, kill each other and become kinslayers.
04:40:39.060The next summer after this, Thorolf came out from Norway, as was told above.
04:40:46.460And when he had been in Iceland one winter in the spring following, he made ready a ship for Bracar Sound.
04:40:53.460but when he was quite ready then one day ale went to his father and asked him to give him an outfit
04:40:59.900i want to go with thorolf skallagrim asked if he had spoken at all of the matter to thorolf and ale
04:41:07.960said he hadn't skallagrim bade him do that first but when ale started the question with thorolf he
04:41:14.220said it is not likely that i shall take you abroad with me if your father thinks he cannot manage
04:41:20.700you here at his house i have no confidence for this to take you with me into foreign lands
04:41:26.780for it will not do to show there's such a temper as you do here if dad can't control you here i
04:41:33.900can't control you abroad maybe said ale neither of us will go in the night came on a furious gale
04:41:44.780a southwester but when it was dark and now flood tide ale came where the ship lay he went out onto
04:41:52.540the ship and outside the tenting he cut asunder all the cables that were there seaward side
04:41:58.860then hurrying back to land by the bridge he at once shot out the bridge and cut the cables
04:42:04.780that were upon the land then the ship was driven out of the firth but when thoralf's men were aware
04:42:10.860of the ship was being sent to drift they jumped into a boat but the wind was far too strong for
04:42:16.460them to get anything done the ship drifted over to duck kill and the islands there but ale went home
04:42:23.900so in vengeance against his brother he's like well maybe neither one of us will leave
04:42:28.540for foreign lands and and then jettisons his ship um so already ale is starting to show he is a
04:42:38.460just a fierce ferocious person he's not one to be crossed even at a young age it's kind of a point to
04:42:47.900make here um in our mind we get all excited about the idea of berserkers in the sagas
04:42:57.100they are awesome as long as you are engaged with a foe they have a like murderous rage that if you
04:43:09.340can point it at your enemies is fantastic the second that there's not conflict
04:43:18.220they have to express it in some way because by their very nature they're out of control they're
04:43:27.220wild and when you have that element in them
04:43:32.680and there's no outlet for it it gets expressed in
04:43:40.300ways that are not safe to be around or have around stuff you like they are the reason we
04:43:47.320can't have nice things and you see that in a lot of ways and you see it's not like they're so out
04:43:57.800of control that it has no restraints but you watch it here in a couple of different cases
04:44:08.360get directed at bystanders because they don't want to unleash it upon their kinsmen
04:44:17.320Like, they've got enough to just kind of keep it at bay and direct it at targets, but you've got a father and son with the natural animosity and, like, competition that's there.
04:44:32.340And then you have both of them being in, you know, high percentage of that berserker inheritance.
04:44:40.760And you can also see that that doesn't necessarily, it's strange sometimes where you see brothers that are of such very different temperaments, but you do.0.90
04:44:58.920Genetics is a strange thing, and it's not always 50% mom, 50% dad equals the kid.
04:45:05.720And it's interesting how different traits come through and different strengths.
04:45:10.380And the character of these two brothers is very different in that regard.
04:45:15.260And so it's just kind of interesting to, in a non-fantastical, more sober way, this saga demonstrates the idea of the Berserker in a more tangible way.
04:45:35.720it's not quite the same but what this reminds me of and this is kind of an odd like rando
04:45:44.780reference but take it for what it is it's like when you it's like uh watching legends of the
04:45:49.760fall you've got three brothers that are very very different in their temperament
04:45:58.640and they're brothers and they've got all the familiar love of brothers but you have you know
04:46:04.160the one tristan that he's like he's got to go out and get his crazy out and i think it's kind of
04:46:10.880telling that you know he ends up meeting his end like with a in a knife fight with a bear because0.62
04:46:19.440he just he doesn't have that that stillness he's got to be out a viking as it were
04:46:26.560and this is kind of an interesting bridge we see get crossed here
04:46:30.880because what would and as we look at the saga more and you see a you'll get an outlet for his crazy
04:46:42.580what would have been like if he just stayed home you know what if you didn't get to go
04:46:49.360and you got to stay home with dad on the farm what would that have looked like for iceland
04:46:55.840would there be people left in Iceland.
04:47:00.340And Skalagrim himself, too, also being of ill temper.
04:47:05.440Yeah, you see those two clashing heads.
04:47:09.620I think this is a really pivotal moment in Egil's life
04:47:14.880here is watching the next couple of chapters.
04:47:19.120well it kind of the chapter ends with um after he you know jettisons his brother's boat um
04:47:34.780and he runs back to to the home but the men had already seen that it had been jettisoned out
04:47:42.640when the people got to know the trick that ale had played the more part blamed it ale said he
04:47:52.000should before long do thoroff more harm and mischief if he would not take him so he's he's
04:47:59.500like i can do far far worse if you don't take me so they mediated between them about this and by
04:48:37.400To Hordaland, he at once stood northward to Son, where there it happened in the winter that Brynjolf, the father of Bjorn, had fallen sick and died, and his sons had shared the heritage.
04:48:55.820Thord had Arlan, the estate on which his father had dwelt.0.51
04:49:01.020He had become a liegeman for the king, and had made barren.
04:49:06.560Thord's daughter was Ranve, the mother of Thord and Helgi,0.94
04:49:13.320and Thord being the father of Ingrid, whom King Olaf had to wife.
05:10:06.900But of Olver there is this to be told,
05:10:12.180that he reached home before Eil and Thorolf and Thorir had come home even before that.
05:10:19.340All were told of the tidings, the slaying of Bard, and the rest that had there been befallen,
05:10:25.500but of Eil's going since he knew nothing. Thorolf was much grieved to hear this.
05:10:32.240He also, as also was Arnbjorn, they thought about that Eil would return nevermore.
05:10:38.880The next morning, Eol came home, which, when Thorolf knew, he rose up and went out to meet him and asked him in what way he had escaped and what tidings had befallen his journey.
05:10:53.320It was then that Eol recited this poem.
05:10:58.000From Norway's king's keeping, from craft of Gunnhilde, speaking of the poison that she put in the horn.
05:11:06.380so i freed me nor flaunt i the feet over bold that three whom but i what what not the warrior
05:11:17.300king's liegemen lie dead to the hall of hella's down sped so i i sent three of the warrior's
05:11:56.420Thornir said it would be the common verdict that Bard got his desert in being slain, yet hath Eil wrought too much after the way of his kin in looking little before him and braving a king's wrath, which most men find heavy burdened.
05:12:13.300However, I will atone you, Eil, with the king for this in time.
05:12:18.160So in essence, Eil is stating that Bard tried to poison him, and that's why he slayed him.
05:31:37.540There are men like Alexander Rudd Mills or like Maestro Guido von List that I do revere as holy men of our faith, as ascended beings that, you know, sit in the halls of our gods.
05:31:58.940That doesn't mean I'm trapped by ideas that they had that are wrong.
05:32:06.600And they did the best that they could with the information they had at the time that they had it.
05:32:12.600And they brought us much closer than we were to a genuine understanding and relationship with our gods.
05:32:24.140But a hundred years from now, undoubtedly, you know, All's Harrier Goethe number five or six is going to sit here and say nice things about me, I hope, and about Spawn, I hope.
05:32:45.500but i also hope that he has a better understanding than we do of our gods that he has a closer
05:32:55.580that he stands upon what we're doing today and from that vantage point is able to reach up
05:33:03.580further and closer um that should always be the hope and i think when we get trapped
05:33:09.860you can revere and celebrate your heroes in our faith it's not idolatry or inappropriate you can
05:33:20.020worship your heroes but you do them a disservice and the efforts that they put forth a disservice
05:33:32.080as perfect because i don't think that they would present themselves as perfect
05:33:39.860I think they would always want us to get closer to perfection.
05:33:47.160What Svon and I are bringing to you and presenting to you is the very best that we have and the truth as we know it.
05:33:59.800But I really hope that those that come and follow after us get even closer.
05:34:07.120and if that means that svan or i were off in some way then then so be it um right now if you know
05:34:16.320if after this after this broadcast the icer were to come to me and say hey listen up you
05:34:22.880screwed up here this is what you know we meant this and didn't mean that cool i welcome it
05:34:27.440And that's not exactly how things work often, but no, I'm, we all have the mission of wanting to be in a closer and more perfect understanding and relationship with the Aesir.
05:34:46.880And none of us should be married to theories or ideas that we have, but we should be to the principle and to the goal of what we're trying to achieve.
05:34:57.440I think it's important to realize that because very often you get people that are completely and totally loyal to someone in the past and want to cling to every word that they say as if it is the perfect truth.
05:35:14.860And they do that often at the expense of carrying that person, their hero, that they reveres mission forward.
05:35:27.440and achieving what they want to achieve i i would love to have people a hundred years from now
05:35:37.060talking about how awesome i am and how and quoting me all the time and saying oh matt's great
05:35:42.400everything matt said is wonderful that's fantastic i'm not gonna lie that's great and i hope that
05:35:48.200happens but i hope more that they're able to build a better relationship with the icer i hope
05:35:56.060even more that they're able to say hey matt brought us here and from there we were able to
05:36:03.140get here that's what i want more than anything um and if we can have both awesome but if
05:36:12.820what we can do helps project those people closer to a better understanding
05:36:20.220yeah that's that's the goal the mission's got to come first and our heroes are in service of that
05:36:33.660mission into and because i've seen a lot of people do that and i think you get this fine
05:36:39.900line where people are like oh well the problem is that is you're worshiping a man and men are
05:36:44.300fallible so don't do that we don't do hero worship no you can do hero worship and also acknowledge
05:36:52.220that their understanding wasn't perfect and inspired by the steps they took you can bring
05:36:59.680it even closer to perfection that's the best way to honor your heroes you know and that's
05:37:08.160that's what i hope that folks do continually um just got a couple more here it is late and especially
05:37:20.320for spawn i just got a couple um a couple more um matt what was your experience like as jehovah's
05:37:35.680witness did you go door to door do you have did you have a strong faith at the time
05:37:41.840or were you already doubting your faith um
05:44:59.060And if you're going to do it, go all in.
05:45:01.720I don't believe in weak sauce commitment to stuff.
05:45:06.160If you're going to do something, do it.
05:45:07.780And if it's not worth, because that was the thing at the time, part of my break with Jehovah's Witnessism was notice, or I don't, that's not a word, but I don't know what the word is.
05:45:22.960They would call it part of my breaking from the truth, and I don't, I reject that label, was recognizing hypocrisy.0.84
05:45:33.560that is a they demand that you be a loser and if you're not then you have to pretend that you are
05:45:43.960and so a lot of people pretended that they were one of my first steps away from it was actually0.90
05:45:52.060out of respect to jehovah and saying you know hey if you're all knowing i'm not going to sit here and
05:45:58.400lie to you about things and be dishonest
05:46:02.800and live a parallel life. That's not right
05:46:06.760to do. So if I'm not going to serve you wholeheartedly
05:59:37.720a gentleman co-hosting the show with me this evening and I went out to do um bloat that night
05:59:45.600and I was it's not like I was having this moment of crisis I wasn't I was confident in what I was
05:59:53.420doing but there was a lot of just wanting so hard to do this right so hard to make the right calls
06:00:04.380and not mess it up and i know and i still know and i still feel but i'm always like one bad
06:00:11.280decision away from just really really damaging what so many people have put their heart and soul
06:00:17.960into making work and at that point i don't know how i'm doing i'm just i'm just hoping for the
06:00:26.940best and i got up to bless the horn and do the first toast and kind of open sumble
06:00:36.620and someone put a hand on my a reassuring hand on my shoulder i mentioned earlier in the broadcast
06:00:44.180about sometimes you convey communication non-physically in a really visceral way that
06:00:51.840cuts through trying to figure something out or trying to comprehend what someone's saying to you
06:00:59.140and it's just touches you to the to the soul because it's physical and you know what that
06:01:06.340means and there's this thing when someone who is brotherly or fatherly or whatever puts their hand
06:01:17.400on your shoulder and you know gives it kind of a squeeze and you know gives you kind of an attaboy
06:01:23.800that way and we all you know at least the men of us i don't know maybe it's different ladies but we
06:01:29.320all know what that feels like and there was any number of of men there that could have done that
06:01:35.800so i'm okay cool and i and i was trying to look behind me to you know give a nod of appreciation
06:01:45.320for that because it was a really really poignant gesture at a time that it was really significant
06:01:51.720to me and i thought in my head i assumed was alan there's nobody behind me like there was nobody
06:02:00.280within within the time of hey putting that hand on my shoulder and sitting back down i mean even if
06:02:10.120they scurried and made a bunch of noise trying to sit back down and pretend it wasn't them
06:02:15.320It just, there wasn't, there wasn't that. And at that moment, I feel very much that the Allfather put his hand on my shoulder to, I don't know, acknowledge, acknowledge me in my position as Allsherry Goethe.
06:02:40.880um i feel very self-conscious saying that out loud but
06:02:51.040that's the truth and i and i believe that with all my heart and it is
06:02:58.480really important to me but yeah that's what that feeling was like and when i say that i
06:03:27.040And that, I carry that with me to this day and it means everything to me.
06:03:34.120um but yeah that's the i think there is
06:03:41.160countless other small ways that i think we perceive and that we appreciate
06:03:49.960those are the two specific things that i know or that i have to you know share right now
06:03:58.840for what it's worth um six hours in i regret zero of it uh it was a really really nice show
06:04:10.840it is i hope everyone else is getting a lot out of this and enjoying it
06:04:16.540um we took like a 45 minute diversion to talk about the gods
06:04:23.160talking about our gods is always time well spent and i don't apologize for that i just know what
06:04:33.000makes following the story may be awkward or whatever but i think that was a really good
06:04:39.000exercise for spawn and i and hopefully for some of our listeners that maybe
06:04:45.720are looking for a place to start on understanding our gods and goddesses
06:04:49.720But going over the lore, these sagas, with my friends Fawn and with all of you at a different stage in my life after filling up so much of the empty space with knowledge, with understanding, with experience, and then coming back to it, it's really cool.
06:05:17.480And in a lot of ways, I feel like a kid again reading some of these things and some of the things that didn't stand out in the same way stand out in a really different way now.