Asatru Folk Assembly - 12⧸13⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 75 - Þorrablót

00:00:00.000 And, you know, there's no telling how much they're going to be able to see on YouTube.

00:00:05.220 Because I know once we get there.

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00:03:00.000 We'll be right back.

00:03:30.000 Again, to another edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:54.620 And tonight, even though it may seem like we're a little bit early, we are going to

00:04:09.280 talk about Thorobloat.

00:04:11.260 um and that you know for anybody that is unfamiliar that is our January

00:04:21.500 holy tide that we focus on so we'll be talking about that a little bit with uh

00:04:30.100 witness fawn here he is a particular expert because this is uh as he will tell you a little

00:04:38.640 bit more about, say special invention of his homeland, as are many of the delicacies. So

00:04:46.720 trying to think if there's anything I need to mention at the top of the hour.

00:04:58.100 This is being broadcast live on Twitter, on

00:05:05.260 odyssey rumble vk

00:05:12.700 um of course here on uh youtube sorry i'm trying to get it uh to load and start over on entropy

00:05:25.200 which is going to be the next one i was going to mention also so you guys know we are

00:05:30.300 as always this is released as a podcast on fridays on spotify so that's a another way to

00:05:41.920 another way to access it um but yeah um oh also twitch which i'm not very familiar with

00:05:55.260 but we are on twitch as well and you know we've been thinking about where's best

00:06:02.540 to have it a little bit and wondering a little bit about our vk presence but something kind of cool

00:06:08.620 happened i know it's been a few weeks ago now but we actually got a uh a russian member from vk that

00:06:19.900 saw us on there and decided they wanted to be a part of what we're doing

00:06:24.700 So that was, yeah, as my lovely wife mentioned over in the chat room, please make sure to like and share and do a little thumbs up thing.

00:06:36.140 And if you guys can, seriously, that's a way if you like what we're doing, if you enjoy it, if you think it's either entertaining or informative or hopefully a little bit of both,

00:06:47.840 both help us get that in front of um eyes and ears that may not already already be familiar

00:06:55.600 with it that's kind of a perennial struggle that we deal with figuring out how to how to best handle

00:07:03.840 but a whole lot of people out there in the world that ought to be with us a whole lot of people

00:07:10.240 out in the world that i think would like to be with us trouble is getting out of our own small

00:07:15.840 circles and getting those people to know that we exist is a huge part of of the struggle for the

00:07:22.160 soul of our folk so you guys can absolutely help in that we appreciate if you do um

00:07:32.400 don't think there's any big news since last time um may have something cool to announce

00:07:41.680 next time a week from today i'm looking forward to that but we'll we'll see stay tuned um

00:07:51.200 without any further ado swan uh iceland's own swan harold tell us about thorablo oh yeah i i i've

00:08:04.800 I've met quite a few Icelanders who have said to me I am not Icelandic, mainly because I've been in America since I was a child, so it's kind of funny.

00:08:34.800 I don't know, chat room. I'm working on it. I'm not sure if you guys can hear me.

00:08:54.320 I'm hoping that it's being dealt with. I can see you guys. I get that it's a thing.

00:09:02.320 Hopefully, we're getting it taken care of here.

00:09:04.800 okay if you guys can hear me then it's something on spawns in no problem

00:09:16.480 we will get him back up and running uh shortly hopefully um

00:09:23.940 ah so i'm trying to think of what to do to kill time a little bit because

00:09:29.500 Svon talking about this particular thing is definitely his deal and something I would like

00:09:38.100 to get him to lay the groundwork on. So hopefully we're getting that a little bit squared away.

00:09:48.660 Coming up a week from today is going to be the official start of the 12 days of Yule,

00:09:56.900 and we'll be

00:09:58.880 I know that

00:10:05.920 hopefully all of us

00:10:07.980 are celebrating those days

00:10:09.480 with our family

00:10:10.360 and with our friends

00:10:11.120 I hope you guys are

00:10:12.160 getting to do that as well

00:10:14.380 one of the things

00:10:15.140 that I was talking a little bit

00:10:16.340 with our Gothar

00:10:17.380 about this week

00:10:19.420 was

00:10:21.480 and I just want to throw this out there

00:10:23.220 this literally is

00:10:25.700 the most wonderful time

00:10:26.780 of the year this is amazing it is a beautiful and special time for folks whose life is going good

00:10:34.700 for people who have families that are doing cool stuff and getting together um

00:10:43.500 but i want to put this out there for anybody who may need to hear it or who may

00:10:50.220 be feeling it um this is also a time of year that is very very hard for folks

00:10:56.780 who are who are struggling who don't have their family with them who are going through

00:11:03.880 relationship problems or family problems this is a time of year where those people can feel

00:11:09.320 very very alone and if you're hearing this and you're one of those folks please reach out to

00:11:14.280 one of our go thar if you need to talk we would love to talk to you and uh you know possibly help

00:11:22.260 with anything but if nothing else be a be a listening ear and somebody who cares so if you

00:11:28.780 are feeling feeling alone and feeling down please reach out because we'd love to hear from you and

00:11:35.400 yeah just just know that's a thing and we know we get it um it's fun we have you back with uh with

00:11:44.200 voice. Can you hear me? I can hear you. The question is, are they getting an echo? Because

00:11:54.260 I'm not getting an echo at all. I'm not getting an echo either. Hopefully folks can hear you.

00:11:59.980 Folks in the chat room, you hearing Spawn? Cool. Monk says there's no echo and they can hear you.

00:12:06.140 We have kept these fine folks in suspense for too long. Please tell them about you. You left

00:12:13.160 off talking about how there are claims you are not an authentic Icelander. Yeah, I was, I see 0.99

00:12:20.820 they're out there sabotaging me right now. Icelandic intelligence is, uh, is in the car

00:12:26.640 outside smoking fish and trying to ban my transmissions. No, um, yeah, Thorblot is, is,

00:12:40.380 It's an interesting one because mainly it's celebrated by Icelanders abroad.

00:12:46.220 I'm not saying it isn't celebrated in Iceland, but it has a significant amount of weight to it abroad.

00:12:54.680 A lot of associations in Canada and in the U.S. really, that's the time that a lot of these members...

00:13:10.380 And we lost Svahn again.

00:13:16.600 Unfortunate, the disgruntled Icelanders are suppressing his presentation today.

00:13:29.040 So, in the meantime.

00:13:32.480 Everything's working on my hand.

00:13:33.580 Okay, we hear you now.

00:13:35.260 Take another swing at it.

00:13:36.520 Yeah.

00:13:39.280 What's going on?

00:13:40.380 on i don't know i'll talk to nick on the side but go ahead and go back to where you were if you would

00:13:45.500 please yeah i was yeah i was just saying that i was just saying the big thing about the big thing

00:13:50.940 about that okay are they here is the audience hearing the echo okay

00:14:10.380 Okay, well, let's give him

00:14:16.340 let's

00:14:16.580 give him another shot and

00:14:20.300 hopefully you can take care of this.

00:14:23.560 Yeah, I've got nothing

00:14:24.340 going on as far as

00:14:26.160 all right.

00:14:30.880 Okay, Svon, so

00:14:32.160 let's try for number four.

00:14:37.640 And I'm sure

00:14:38.400 And I'm sure chat will let us know if we're getting the Echo still.

00:14:48.300 Yeah, I was looking at what Wolf Throne said.

00:14:50.600 Maybe I should cut and come back in.

00:14:52.660 That might be good.

00:14:58.160 We did not.

00:15:00.000 So, yeah, and apparently the chat's saying there's still Echo.

00:15:04.860 So.

00:15:05.140 Yeah, and if you have a pair of headphones, that's an idea, too, if you could pop those in.

00:15:15.700 I'll come right back and see if I can find some headphones.

00:15:20.000 So, rest assured, audience.

00:15:22.740 This time, the tech issues are not on the VNS end.

00:15:28.280 They are, looks like it is native to Svon himself.

00:15:35.140 So he's going to try to come back on.

00:15:37.940 I think you guys all probably heard a little bit of that.

00:15:41.320 Hopefully we got it squared away when he comes back.

00:15:45.440 I think he will add to the conversation quite a bit tonight.

00:15:48.940 But if he doesn't, then we'll carry on and talk about Thorobloat otherwise.

00:15:59.280 He's laying a little bit of the foundation for us.

00:16:02.420 But one thing, and I don't think this is a huge spoiler for those of you who are coming to this with any, any recent knowledge, but, or not recent, any subject matter knowledge, people who are brand new may be confused and not realize this, but Thor bloat is not an ancient holiday.

00:16:25.880 We have no pretense that it was or that it is.

00:16:31.700 I'm not even sure that Thorobloat itself is as old as the modern practice since the reforging of Alcetru, as it were.

00:16:44.460 But it is a special time to celebrate.

00:16:48.960 it's certainly culturally relevant and it's a it's a fun time to get together

00:16:54.060 with our folk and our guys during the month of January and so that's that's

00:17:01.720 why we do it and it's something that's been practiced in modern house to true

00:17:05.400 quite some time so yeah it's a it's a really interesting interesting one and

00:17:12.840 it's I think spawn was going to go into the the roots of it but it's it's very

00:17:17.220 much a cultural celebration for the icelanders but in a an important way that follows with our

00:17:28.340 apparently they're saying that i have an echo now um

00:17:40.500 okay all right so disregard everything i just said apparently it is on our end

00:17:46.180 but should be good when Svahn pops back on.

00:18:01.160 If and when Svahn pops back on, it's been a minute.

00:18:05.320 So, all right, so I'm holding off

00:18:11.200 because I want Svahn to really get to the meat of this 0.96

00:18:13.280 And I know that's not going to quite do it justice as much as he will if he was on because it is such an Iceland centric thing.

00:18:21.280 um but yeah so in the meantime um

00:18:29.520 we are over this yuletide going into the top of the year we will be

00:18:42.880 closing the books on 29 years of the house true folk assembly and we will be starting our 30th

00:18:55.980 year next year so that's a it's a really cool and i think a very significant accomplishment

00:19:07.360 for the house true focus family and the exact starting date is a little bit in uh in question

00:19:19.520 i suppose but the closest that we can track it to i'm trying to look into it was the

00:19:29.680 winter and i think it was the winter issue was the close of the year but i don't think they were

00:19:34.720 doing the runestone magazine monthly at the time so in the winter of 1994 edition they talked uh

00:19:46.560 steve talked about how they were going to start the house true folk assembly and that was something

00:19:52.640 that was in the works they're fixing on starting and then in the spring edition um after that turn

00:20:01.440 of the year they announced this of 1995 they announced that the austral folk assembly has

00:20:07.520 been formed so sometimes between when those two issues came out and uh we kind of split the

00:20:14.720 difference and call it the top of the year um so yeah we're about to enter into the 30th year

00:20:26.480 it looks like we've got spawn back he's got some headphones he may not know those headphones are

00:20:31.360 unnecessary but we're going to let him wear the headset anyway like he's flying a jet or something

00:20:43.200 all right

00:20:46.400 okay so uh 0.77

00:20:50.960 it's fun do we have you live and ready or are you echoey

00:20:55.200 all right can you hear me at all i can certainly hear but i also hear it out

00:21:07.840 it's the first time i've heard

00:21:23.600 yeah

00:21:25.200 All right. So, I'm eye-echoing for folks. All right. Then I will keep trying to fill some space.

00:21:38.980 So, I'm on the spot in the meantime here.

00:21:51.660 So, one thing we're looking at for upcoming episodes, Brandy's series on Beowulf has been very, very well received.

00:22:01.720 I really like it.

00:22:02.920 I think it's added a lot.

00:22:04.140 I'm getting really good feedback from folks that have enjoyed those episodes.

00:22:10.740 So what I'd like to do, and it's something I actually wanted to talk to Svon about on the side tonight,

00:22:17.200 is maybe shuffling in, maybe having Svon on more often.

00:22:24.420 um but doing

00:22:28.260 doing more reading and analysis of lore on the broadcast i think that people like that

00:22:38.440 maybe taking chunks of perhaps pieces from the etta

00:22:44.840 any we've got a lot of options on that of where we can go and it's something i was going to talk

00:22:51.500 of spawn a little bit about, but just kind of a thing in the chat room. Do you guys enjoy

00:22:56.220 that format of like Brandy was doing of reading chunks and then us going through it a little bit

00:23:03.580 and, uh, I'm talking about topical questions, but saving some of the more generic questions for,

00:23:10.920 you know, later in the broadcast after we hit some of the, uh, some of the program.

00:23:15.240 Looks like we got one fan out there that, that enjoys it. Um, yeah, that's something I wanted

00:23:21.140 to, that's something I'll try to talk to Svon about tonight when we go off the air, because

00:23:25.060 I think that's, I think that'll work.

00:23:33.740 Yes, we're talking about doing that, and I think we maybe can bring on some different

00:23:37.240 guests for it, but I also think that Svon had a lot to that conversation, especially

00:23:43.920 with the Etic War, so I think that's something I'm going to see about he and I doing some

00:23:47.760 of. Swan, just kind of cut in whenever you and Nick have your audio situation figured out or

00:23:57.720 whenever I guess we need to test it. All right. So guys, I'm sorry that this is a recurring thing

00:24:11.660 on the BNS with the tech problems.

00:24:16.440 It is frustrating for us as well.

00:24:18.480 I appreciate you guys sticking in there

00:24:19.860 and I appreciate you guys being an awesome audience.

00:24:23.560 So that's one thing we're going through.

00:24:28.620 We've had a couple.

00:24:32.840 So one thing I was going to say with that too,

00:24:38.220 if there's things that you would like to hear

00:24:40.600 you think would be a good, um, make a good episode or be a good topic that a lot of people

00:24:48.920 want to talk about, um, please suggest those and send them to us because we're always looking for

00:24:55.180 ideas. Sometimes we got a ton and sometimes we're kind of feeling out what we think folks want to

00:25:00.780 hear about. Something you may notice is we may do several episodes on a singular kind of idea

00:25:06.940 over the years because we think of a better way to do it or we wanted to go a little bit more

00:25:12.840 in depth with it or there was more to be said on the topic. So we're going to rehash stuff

00:25:21.440 over the years and that's just going to be a thing. But if you guys do think of stuff that

00:25:25.820 you'd like to hear or that you'd like us to talk on, we will do that. I'm going to look at real

00:25:33.280 quick questions that nick's got queued up and maybe go about a couple of those if we've got

00:25:40.480 on the end uh you know nick and spawn go ahead and chime in when when you can when you're ready

00:25:50.720 um

00:25:54.080 we look them over real quick

00:26:03.280 So Sfaun is low. Okay. So I want to answer what would seem to be a Sfaun-centered question,

00:26:11.600 but I can't because I happen to know. So a question, hey Sfaun, I live in Maryland,

00:26:16.560 unfortunately, but I drive trucks and make deliveries all throughout Virginia.

00:26:21.320 I love it down there. A lot of good people. What area of Virginia are you located?

00:26:27.140 swan is in virginia beach we also have a folk builder um david rother who's in

00:26:39.780 couldn't tell you the town off the top of my head but he's very close to washington dc

00:26:45.140 so we have got some good folks in in the state of virginia

00:26:50.020 um not sure with your trucking if that's the only place you go but

00:26:56.320 uh you should check in with your local folk builder and and or any of us honestly and if you

00:27:04.460 I don't know I think that truckers have an interesting opportunity that they don't take

00:27:10.500 advantage of enough and I know that sometimes folks are on really tight deadlines I get it

00:27:14.540 But we've got great people in a lot of places, and I think that if we looked into it, our

00:27:21.380 folks that drive truck would find that they are very often very close to and in an opportunity

00:27:28.360 to meet up with some really, really good folks.

00:27:31.240 So I've put that out there and let folks know we maybe can arrange something like that.

00:27:43.260 we've got we've got some other questions and i'll get to some of the ones i'd like spawn to chime

00:27:48.940 in on if and when we can get them uh nick another idea if we can't do it another way is to route

00:27:56.060 spawn through with voice call if we have to go that route so consider that while you're looking

00:28:02.540 at alternatives um but i'm seeing some other questions pop up here and i think they're worth

00:28:10.380 talking about um wolf throne asks if we would consider doing vns episodes on lore from the

00:28:21.580 etta kind of like you did with the gilfaggening episode yeah but you know what i'd like to go more

00:28:27.820 in depth we talked a lot about generalities on the gilfaggening but i think i think we will do

00:28:34.540 that again and what i think we'll do like i mentioned earlier is actually read chunks at a

00:28:40.140 time and analyze get into those answer any questions on those and kind of go through it

00:28:47.100 piece by piece i think that's a really fruitful way for us to do this so i think that's something

00:28:51.900 we're definitely going to do um and uh yeah dave's in uh in alexandria if you don't see that in chat

00:29:00.140 rumor if you're listening to this uh and that's drother at d-r-o-t-h-e-r at runestone.org if you

00:29:10.060 want to get in touch with him or if you want to get in touch with swan about visiting him in virginia

00:29:15.420 near uh like i said he's in virginia beach it's s h-e-r-u-l at runestone.org

00:29:25.180 and Svon can try to get that set up all right so Svon if you recall where you were at or you can

00:29:48.200 start fresh because you were trying to legitimize yourself as an Icelander when we ran into all the

00:29:53.160 problems so uh i don't know maybe maybe change change gears on that if that is the source of

00:30:02.760 our difficulties and uh tell folks about thorablo okay can you hear me now i certainly can but i've

00:30:11.320 heard you pretty good most of this time yeah chat are we getting an echo or can you hear me

00:30:17.080 yes says chat okay excellent um so yeah i was gonna i was gonna say i saw some of the other

00:30:35.560 questions um i know that people were looking uh you know for me i'm not i don't i know somebody

00:30:41.700 made a joke and said, Ooh, that's a glowy question, but, um, I'm not, I don't hide.

00:30:46.680 You know, like you can find me. Um, uh, if you just reach out through the, uh, email,

00:30:53.820 I'll get up with you. We can, you know, meet up, uh, have an impromptu moot, if you will.

00:31:00.540 Um, big thing though, I would say is if you have the ability to get down to North Carolina and get

00:31:05.740 to Thor's off, then that's good too. You know, that would be, uh, far more ideal, but, um,

00:31:12.200 okay. Svan is good, but Thor is better. Yes. Yes. Very much so. Um, the, uh, one of the things

00:31:23.460 about Thorblot that I was going to talk about was that you got to understand Thorblot as an

00:31:28.680 Icelandic national holiday that's celebrated by Icelanders all over. And then there's

00:31:35.300 Thoroblot of Ausatru. And it's because Ausatru is, again, bringing it towards the religious 0.52

00:31:44.380 connotation. I think that it was originally kind of intended. It's worth noting that Thoroblot

00:31:51.280 itself is actually a modern holiday in the sense that it came around in the early 19th century

00:31:59.820 during the time that Iceland was battling like legally for its validation as an independent

00:32:12.440 nation. And that, that really started in the late 18, like 1890s. And then early in the turn

00:32:20.680 of the century, Denmark and Iceland were doing kind of like a shared legality. And then with

00:32:29.200 the onset of the war in World War II, England occupied Iceland and so did America. They sent 0.61

00:32:39.200 troops there. And it was kind of just seen as more a, I think, a tactical move. And then this

00:32:50.760 was, of course, with the occupation of Denmark. So when Denmark got occupied, this threw a lot

00:32:58.080 things up in the air and there was um some nationalist movements in um iceland at the time

00:33:07.280 and uh they uh there was a lot of nationalism just kind of brewing in general all over the world and

00:33:16.560 iceland was no and i think that out of that was what bore the true origins of thorold as far as

00:33:25.360 a modern day because they were trying to uh gain footholds in um i guess ethnic identity

00:33:39.120 and they naturally went to uh kind of religious and ethnic folk faith mixed with modern concepts

00:33:50.240 of like, get togethers and having a party. And of course, it was, you know, heavily bent around

00:33:56.000 food and the national foods of Iceland that helped the Icelanders survive. So you have these,

00:34:03.960 you know, it's like it's 1944 to like 1950 is when Thorobloot really started to form itself

00:34:10.960 as an Icelandic holiday. And it was built heavily around the pride of all of the techniques and food

00:34:17.800 preparations that Icelanders had. And I don't think it's, um, I don't think it's like, uh,

00:34:23.840 by accident, uh, partially, I mean, obviously feasts are still feasts, but, uh, Iceland had

00:34:29.580 struggles with food production and with, um, a lot of modern amenities of food were not able to,

00:34:38.640 um, feed the Icelanders. And so it was kind of like a call back to like, Hey, remember our

00:34:45.200 ancestors survived by these techniques, by these food, uh, methods of smoking and, and, um, salting

00:34:52.860 and pressing. And so it was kind of like a call to arms to, for the folk to remember, um, their

00:35:01.680 old ways, because a lot of modern stuff was really heavily dependent on shipping. So, um, yeah, they,

00:35:11.380 started the holiday right around that time. But as far as Ausitru goes, it becomes slightly

00:35:23.300 different. Ausitru in its early formative years in the late 70s and early 80s, I think was

00:35:34.220 trying to pull from a broad spectrum of European celebrations.

00:35:45.800 And Thorablot, the fact that the word blot is even used, is important.

00:35:51.400 So I think that that naturally got the attention of people that are Ausatru.

00:35:56.320 And, you know, I think that even locally in Iceland, with Sven Björn Vjartansson and the Austatru Felliev in the beginning, or what it would eventually become, and just people like the Odinik Rite and the Austatru Free Assembly and practitioners and writers were pulling things where they had, for instance, like, you know, Thoroblok,

00:36:24.900 But then they would have like either Ostra or like Hexenacht or, you know, they were pulling a charming of the plow or the Akerbot was a heavy influence.

00:36:36.980 And so it was kind of gravitated towards and scooped into because of two things.

00:36:43.320 One, the the origins of the month 40 in the Icelandic calendar is up to debate.

00:36:52.060 A lot of people think that it may have been named after an actual person, but no one can quite figure that out because Tori is a name.

00:37:00.520 And or that it has, you know, connections back to Thor and that the nationalists of Iceland that were starting Thoroblot kind of wanted to imply that but not kind of ruffle the feathers of the local Lutheran state church.

00:37:21.520 church um i don't know icelanders are kind of funny when it comes to christianity in the state

00:37:26.460 church of lutheranism um they had a problem with catholicism in the in the early points so when

00:37:32.040 when the protestant movement started they they pretty much shifted to that pretty fast and i

00:37:36.400 think that was because they just had a kind of a big problem with being led from abroad by a by a

00:37:42.920 kingdom like norway or denmark and then that kingdom of course being religiously led by rome

00:37:49.400 So it was kind of a – they wanted to separate and create their own unique space.

00:37:57.720 And the other thing that's, I think, major to understand is that Thoroblot was named in the 19th century, but the practice of eating those fermented and stored meats of the time were important because it's a midwinter festival.

00:38:13.760 and that's the food you have available because everything is built around prepping for the

00:38:19.200 winter time and um in a way it was a it's a way to ensure that your neighbors who may have not

00:38:26.140 had the ability to get food whether it was canned or shipped in from other countries

00:38:30.880 it was kind of a way to ensure that everyone was you know getting together it was a chance

00:38:37.080 for everyone to kind of check up on each other and get food and celebrate being Icelandic.

00:38:45.160 But it shifts definitely more towards religious connotations in Ausatru. So we use the name the

00:38:53.360 same, Thoroblot, but there's a clear connection to the striker, the storm father, Thor, that you

00:39:02.380 might not find if you were to attend a Thorobloat at like an association. You know, the language

00:39:09.920 being spoken, all the foods that are decked out, lots of foods that perhaps even now Icelanders

00:39:15.780 abroad might not get a chance to eat often is going to be there. So it's a little reconnection

00:39:21.880 to home and then a chance to network with people and to dance and to have a good time

00:39:27.980 is kind of the overall meaning of it logistically.

00:39:34.280 And I think that still applies to Thorblot in Ausatru.

00:39:37.620 It is a midwinter celebration and a chance for us to get together

00:39:41.940 and kind of shed off the doldrums of that kind of gap after Yule

00:39:46.920 where not a lot is going on and things are changing

00:39:51.240 and the new year, if you will, is kind of being focused on.

00:39:56.960 So it's a chance in between late January, early February for us to get together and honor Thor and kind of, again, break off the cold and break off the restraints of being indoors and making sure that we reach out to community and build community under the auspices of food and feasting.

00:40:24.020 And so now Thoroblot, I think you'll find people oftentimes bring more, not recipes like say from Iceland. I mean, I, you know, bring whatever I can or make, but other foods are present there from people's lineages.

00:40:40.240 like if you know and you know if you're from minnesota there might be uh norwegian or german

00:40:45.360 dishes um a lot of people kind of just pull from their own families their own grandma's recipes

00:40:52.560 and things like that so it's it's all about really kind of connecting back to your your uh family

00:40:59.680 dishes and um so now you know you might get everything from ukrainian food to um uh german

00:41:09.680 food and polish food and english food and icelandic food or you know you know at least

00:41:15.920 scandinavian in in its formation and so i think that's the overall along with giving devotion and

00:41:23.280 thankfulness to thor and um again like shaking off that cold and and getting reset for the year so

00:41:31.280 photo blood has become our first holiday after the new year um yeah

00:41:42.400 there you go and honestly it doesn't have to be any more complicated than that um

00:41:50.480 i think that's one thing i really enjoy about it it's not complicated it's straightforward

00:41:55.200 and it's and it's fun um

00:42:01.280 it is certainly celebratory it is something in the uh the most brutal kind of

00:42:09.280 month in winter there to eat disgusting things and to celebrate with folks and to be happy and

00:42:18.400 to play games and to do things and i think that it's fitting that it's devoted to thor um

00:42:24.480 And also Thor is, you know, certainly a God that appreciates feasting and drinking and celebration and joy among the folk.

00:42:38.360 And I think that's a, you know, that is important.

00:42:41.720 I think that very often when we, I'm just going to say bifurcate, but not really.

00:42:54.920 When we chunk our lives into different pieces, however many pieces there are, when we want to express religiosity, we're very, you know,

00:43:06.400 When people are very pious and they want to express religiosity, it tends to come in a very, very serious, very grim, often, form.

00:43:19.640 And I think that there's plenty of times that that's really appropriate.

00:43:24.700 But there's also times to share joy with our gods.

00:43:29.600 We want to share seriousness and we want to approach them respectfully.

00:43:33.780 But that doesn't mean that our gods don't want to look down and see their children smiling and laughing and celebrating with one another.

00:43:44.000 This is a chance to do that in a special way and in a culturally relevant way and in a fun, lighthearted way.

00:43:56.220 It's never a bad time to give bloat to one of our gods.

00:44:00.980 this is a cool time to give bloat to thor why because the name has thor in it and it sounded

00:44:08.300 like something to do quite honestly it doesn't have to be any more than that i make no claim to

00:44:13.620 some ancient tradition that this is a shadow remnant of it's probably not but there was a

00:44:22.860 linguistic confusion by early practitioners of ausiture in the united states and it became a

00:44:29.900 tradition and we're running with it um because why not it's always a good time to honor the

00:44:35.520 thunderer and in the middle of winter when we want to celebrate with one another and feast and uh

00:44:42.180 do stuff we've turned it into to that um in my reading and understanding of it as it's practiced

00:44:50.640 as a cultural thing by icelanders sometimes it's just a special dinner or special meal

00:44:55.200 um what there's a number of traditions kind of depends on where you're at local groups have all

00:45:02.320 kind of traditions of what to do but carrying on the theme of it being a fun get together in the

00:45:09.600 middle of winter when it's cold outside and have fun with friends and family it's time where a lot

00:45:17.600 of people will play games um you know have different games as a as an homage to thor

00:45:25.500 sometimes they'll do strength-based games or you know i've done arm wrestling tournaments

00:45:30.320 and stuff amongst the people gathered and it's just kind of a fun thing to do um

00:45:36.400 i coupled it with a um like a wintertime thing that i used to do in in boy scouts when i was

00:45:45.960 in Alaska we'd go and one of the things that we do and so I've tried to carry this tradition with

00:45:50.700 me a little bit and when people are amenable we do it is everybody will bring a can of soup

00:45:55.460 and we'll put them in one communal pot of this you know mixture of soup that turns out with

00:46:01.540 whatever anybody brings and if you're doing stuff outside in in January in a lot of places

00:46:10.800 specifically where I grew up in Alaska.

00:46:14.160 It doesn't really matter what soup people bring.

00:46:16.800 As long as it's hot, it is welcome at that time.

00:46:20.420 But it's fun to see what concoctions you come up with

00:46:23.860 depending on who brings what.

00:46:26.320 Another thing that's always kind of a staple is disgusting foods

00:46:31.080 because spawns people eat disgusting things.

00:46:37.560 Deliciously disgusting. 0.89

00:46:38.600 I will let the audience decide that for themselves.

00:46:44.420 It's one of the things you guys may be wondering about the thumbnail picture we used to advertise for this episode.

00:46:51.240 And it's chunks of shark rotting underneath stilted buildings in Svon's homeland.

00:47:02.420 And then they eat this rotten shark. 0.84

00:47:06.000 And so, you know, to keep it authentic, something that folks like to do here is if they can find it, get the Rotten Shark and dare people to try a small piece of it and then wash it down with Brennivan, I think.

00:47:22.360 Yeah, or really any drink.

00:47:24.420 I mean, you could you could definitely get together.

00:47:28.620 One thing that that is probably the easiest to get.

00:47:32.980 There's two things.

00:47:34.240 there's there's light bread um which is an icelandic like fried um flatbread it's really

00:47:40.700 really thin and it's cut in really cool ways to have these kind of like uh chevron shapes and

00:47:46.560 floral shapes almost like um almost like a snowflake uh that those are usually easy to

00:47:52.660 get because you can get them in tins and you can probably you know find them on the internet

00:47:55.700 pretty easily um if you don't have family there um the other thing is hard of the fish good how

00:48:03.140 the fisker just means hard fish and it's uh it's a it's one of the traditional things to eat how

00:48:08.900 coral i don't know i i would you know i'm not i'm really tempted to ask my family up there if they

00:48:14.020 can send me some but i don't know how uh how it's packaged maybe vacuum packed um but uh and of

00:48:21.940 course as soon as i open it if we're in a closed space it might be might be uh pungent but um

00:48:29.060 Um, the, uh, hard of the fiscal is like a it's that really goes back all the way back

00:48:35.960 to even, uh, from in Norway and the discovery of Iceland in which they would take like cod

00:48:41.800 fillets, whole cod fillets.

00:48:43.860 And a cod is a big fish and they would, um, they would splay it open and, um, you know,

00:48:49.880 remove the bones and press it out.

00:48:51.840 And then they would dry it and salt it because we have salted cod, but this one is specifically

00:48:56.920 dry.

00:48:57.480 so when you pull it it's it's shreddable and um i mean my mother used to always just eat like

00:49:04.040 unsalted butter on it because it's salty enough as it is but she would just put like regular

00:49:08.600 butter on it and we would get strips and just like chew on them and i mean it it makes your

00:49:12.760 whole house smell like seafood like like fish but um much to my to the chagrin of of uh of my family 0.93

00:49:22.760 especially my wife she she is not a uh she's from the mountains of um central united states and so 0.99

00:49:30.200 like ocean going fish are not a major uh food staple there so she's just like oh take that 1.00

00:49:38.040 outside because it just makes the whole house smell like like a fishmonger's market um but

00:49:45.480 there's other things too a lot of a lot of um like hunker now i was looking up something about

00:49:52.120 that because uh i don't get killed this is like a like a condensed smoked uh lamb and uh

00:50:02.760 it's it's really really dense and you kind of cut it in it's like circular shape so you end up

00:50:07.800 cutting it almost like a salami but not as thin and um uh apparently i i don't know if the icelanders

00:50:15.400 are doing this or just people that are researching it but they they really try to hit some uh

00:50:19.800 um, like as, as, as disgusting as they can get it. And the one thing that I saw that caught my eye

00:50:26.920 was dung smoked. And I, uh, I think it's worth noting that, you know, the, the animal dung of

00:50:33.540 olden times was used as a fuel, um, in a great amount, especially considering there's, there

00:50:39.460 wasn't a lot of trees in Iceland. Um, that's changing. Things are getting a little better

00:50:43.800 there um as they are cultivating and and kind of getting um bigger and you know uh more robust

00:50:51.220 trees there um but you know they said dung smoked lamb and it's i remember when i was a kid that was

00:51:00.120 never like a thing and i you know i was i i don't know if they i i try to look into that a little

00:51:05.740 bit more if they still do it with dung or if they do it with imported woods now and things of that

00:51:12.020 nature. So I was trying to find that and, and absolutely be able to clarify that that is,

00:51:17.160 you know, a thing I'm sure there's probably, you know, people that are purists in Iceland that

00:51:22.040 want to try to do it as like traditional as possible. So they're roasting something or

00:51:27.940 smoking something, cooking something in general over feces sounds, sounds terrible, but I think

00:51:36.660 it's worth contemplating from whence the feces came. As a random side note, in Alaska,

00:51:47.600 as kids, we would very often pelt each other with moose turds. And moose, they're like

00:51:59.300 other kinds of deer they kind of defecate like rabbits do but just moose size so there are these

00:52:10.140 big like acorns of poo that you throw at one another but honestly the consistency

00:52:17.020 it's like soda it's like chocolate covered sawdust as it were um

00:52:23.980 And I suppose that's probably, if you had to use feces to cook with, I think that, you know,

00:52:36.960 those kind of grass grazing animals would probably produce a relatively cleaner version of that

00:52:45.840 than, say, carnivores or something else. 0.58

00:52:48.220 Yeah, cattle and lamb. The herbivoric kind of the droppings that were utilized are just like grass patties, basically. They were, you know, multi stomached undulates that, you know, just consume and grind down grass.

00:53:07.720 um the usage of that for a fuel source if you talk about that with um you know survivalists and um

00:53:17.400 homesteaders and stuff like that there is a uh an element to that because it it doesn't it's not

00:53:24.120 like um you know the scat of a meat eater and it's also not like like like i didn't know about the

00:53:29.560 moose having kind of like almost like goats if you will where they're just like pelleted um yeah

00:53:36.760 i had no idea imagine they'd be big it's a big niche industry in alaska to uh

00:53:43.640 make novelty items out of moose turds um like shellac them and make little sculptures and

00:53:51.320 little earrings and necklaces and other nonsense for the tourists

00:53:59.720 wear this poop thanks you know they there's a lot of people that make a pretty good living

00:54:05.960 selling shellacked moose turds with googly eyes hot glue gun to them so uh i mean i don't know

00:54:16.280 so that's the thing is like i don't know if that's something that's done across the board because i

00:54:22.040 know that now that's imported there are certain uh things that are that are made you know in iceland

00:54:28.360 as well that are used for smoking. Um, and you know, like I said, perhaps purists might be,

00:54:35.860 uh, you know, doing that or, or using that, but I imagine a long, long time ago, um,

00:54:43.540 the idea of, you know, using, um, uh, dung in, in a small like shack on your land in order to do

00:54:55.740 with it. Because, okay, another thing that's worth noting is that Thorplot is really timely

00:55:02.160 based on another month in the Icelandic calendar, which is Gormannadr. Gormannadr means

00:55:08.100 the slaughtering month, if you will. It's the time in which a lot of the herd, the older

00:55:14.920 sheep are kind of culled out to allow the younger ones to, you know, to grow and to really to

00:55:26.840 ensure that there isn't a lot of like inbreeding amongst the animals. They want to, you know,

00:55:32.220 do a lot of the mating of the younger ones and, you know, get the older ones kind of out. And

00:55:37.640 they had to slaughter the animals before winter and get them smoked and everything

00:55:42.860 through the midwinter. And it was usually, you know, done and ready by, you know, January-ish

00:55:50.680 or, you know, Thoris month. So that's when I think Thoroblot kind of became a natural synthesis of

00:56:00.960 that's the time to eat these smoked meats and, you know, pressed fish and dried fish and things.

00:56:08.420 and it was again a testament to remembering the survival of your ancestors and how they did it

00:56:13.060 there's little things in iceland that they they still do like when you go on the roads uh driving

00:56:18.260 from keflavik um you head out of the airport and you'll see these like standing stones

00:56:24.980 um and they're not quite like an altar or anything they're kind of tall and sometimes they're um

00:56:31.700 shaped and these are still around because if there's like a whiteout uh and the snow is coming

00:56:37.460 in and you can't really see anything the way the snow lands on these stones it doesn't fully get

00:56:43.220 in there so you can see this kind of um black and white shape uh and that's letting you know like

00:56:50.420 hey you're on you're near the road you're on the road and it kind of keeps you in the lines

00:56:55.060 um so little things like that are just uh reminders of you know they could put perhaps

00:57:01.940 modern signage out there and they do uh but the you know in between uh occasionally you have to

00:57:08.180 look and see if you can see these standing stones to make sure you're still on the on the road

00:57:11.940 because you can lose the horizon very very quickly in the winter time so it helps with the drivers and

00:57:18.980 and um people moving back and forth between the airport and the main city the capital yeah you

00:57:26.020 know so and i've seen people again this is fun the goal is to be closer with the people you are

00:57:39.620 gathered with through having fun experiences and uh hopefully also incorporating you know

00:57:51.060 offerings at least toasts if not a full bloat to the god thor um but i've seen people go different

00:58:00.340 routes on the food they either go trying to find disgusting things to eat to see who can eat you

00:58:06.340 know random disgusting food items you find or they go you know the these things are disgusting

00:58:15.140 is a byproduct of the fact that they are preserved foods. So one of the other things people will do

00:58:21.580 if they don't want to just eat nasty things, well, they will eat preserved things like jerkies or

00:58:26.260 pickled things or various stuff that's done to preserve stuff through the winter. And, you know,

00:58:33.440 we can all see where that comes from. I think it fits well with a lot of our other holy tides that

00:58:40.240 we celebrate in the, you know, the, the agricultural year, I think this, you know, fits in there

00:58:47.520 well. Um, but yeah, there's a lot of, a lot of fun things you can do. Um, but the point

00:58:57.480 being, get together and have fun with your folk, with your family and, uh, raise a toast

00:59:06.500 to make an offering to us at Thor in celebration.

00:59:12.080 When it's also something that speaks

00:59:13.900 to fundamental values of our folk

00:59:17.040 is to celebrate during the lean times,

00:59:24.980 celebrate during the hard times

00:59:27.820 as well as celebrate during other things,

00:59:30.020 really crank up the joy when things are cold

00:59:33.180 And when you may need that pick-me-up, smile in the face of adversity and celebrate when the climate is least conducive to celebration, I'd say.

00:59:48.160 Yeah, I would say, you know, when we think about Thoroblot as an Icelandic holiday, that is, again, a feast celebrated by Icelanders.

00:59:57.100 But Thor is not exclusive to Iceland.

00:59:59.360 I know a lot of people think that, oh, you know, this is an Icelandic religion.

01:00:02.700 or this is a, you know, this is a Viking religion.

01:00:07.920 I know people like to throw that out there a lot.

01:00:11.160 But it's worth noting that Thor's place in Iceland was very strong,

01:00:16.520 even into the foundation of finding Reykjavik.

01:00:20.720 When the Thor pillars were thrown over the boat on the eastern side,

01:00:26.460 southeastern side of the island, prayers were given to Thor

01:00:31.120 and uh to ask to to guide them to where they should settle and it say you know these pillars

01:00:37.380 the the god poles of the seats were or were um they're not connected to the seat they're they're

01:00:43.140 um attachable um they're they were thrown over and they followed them and it the the posts went

01:00:50.160 all the way around and into a bay and the bay was misty and so they landed on the beach there and

01:00:58.080 And they called the place Reykjavík, vik means a bay or an inlet, large, and even to

01:01:06.520 the foundation.

01:01:07.520 I want to restate that for a second.

01:01:11.860 In piety, the founders of Iceland threw two sacred posts from the high seat in Thor's

01:01:21.080 temple into the water to let Asa Thor guide them to where Reykjavik would be. They put their faith

01:01:31.380 in Thor to pick the spot, and modern Reykjavik is where he picked. I think it's very, we are very

01:01:40.160 used to contextualizing our faith for the skeptical or for the atheist. No, Thor guided those posts

01:01:48.920 and Thor put them where he wanted them.

01:01:51.340 If you don't want to believe that, that's your choice.

01:01:54.660 But we know that that's true.

01:01:59.480 Yeah, I'm seeing in the chat there.

01:02:02.040 Yeah, we covered Yule two weeks ago, and that was a doozy.

01:02:07.120 I know that there's some references,

01:02:09.260 because Thorne Bloat follows after Yule pretty quickly,

01:02:13.100 just in, I guess, the modern...

01:02:15.020 And we're doing this in mid-December.

01:02:17.380 There's going to be Yule questions.

01:02:18.680 And we're happy to answer all of those questions.

01:02:23.480 Every two weeks is coming way faster than the calendar year is going to go.

01:02:27.560 So we're going to be off season here really quick.

01:02:31.060 We just happened to hit Yule in our first episode in December.

01:02:38.060 So Survive 2030, I think that you are a new, from my understanding, you're a new listener to the program.

01:02:46.900 that being the case um yeah ask anything you want these these shows are a free-for-all on questions

01:02:57.880 as long as they are presented respectfully and they're you know a reasonable question 0.94

01:03:04.900 I you know we've all heard there's no such thing as a stupid question that's not true there's plenty 0.97

01:03:09.880 stupid questions but we will answer most of them um as long as they're asked in uh in good faith 0.97

01:03:18.440 um but yeah that's so one of the things that i'm also not gonna lie uh those who aren't 0.99

01:03:25.960 familiar with the early days of modern house of truth there was a one of the things that

01:03:33.960 characterized it in um in the united states certainly and i think this looked a little bit

01:03:42.360 different in england and with alexander red mills in australia but here in the united states

01:03:51.880 the very early days were certainly characterized by a a hyper focus on

01:03:59.880 on vikings and because the material available i hyper focus on the icelandic sagas uh from

01:04:08.520 the viking period or about the viking period so yeah this is part of that you know

01:04:17.480 no disrespect but the viking fetishism of the early days of alsatru and

01:04:25.480 as much as i get on here because i have to speak

01:04:29.880 And because of a disproportionate emphasis on quote-unquote Viking LARP or on the conceptualization that our faith is just confined to, you know, a 300-year period of Norse expression, I come out a lot anti-Viking.

01:04:55.740 Vikings are cool.

01:04:57.320 I'm not going to say they're not.

01:04:59.020 We all get that Vikings are awesome, and they are.

01:05:02.620 Don't ever – any of my putting a wet blanket on that, please realize Matt, when he was 20 and found Alcetru,

01:05:14.400 was absolutely a Viking fanboy just like everybody else.

01:05:18.780 I matured over time and have a broader understanding of our faith over time,

01:05:22.560 But the heroic period that was the Viking Age is inspirational to all of us.

01:05:29.240 And there's no shame in that. We're very proud of that.

01:05:31.820 And this is a part of that.

01:05:32.940 You'll notice that our very early Days of Remembrance were almost exclusively focused on the Viking period,

01:05:43.960 but specifically characters out of and i say characters real persons out of um

01:05:52.840 the heimskringla um the sagas of the kings of norway um so the saga period is something that

01:06:00.200 we took a lot of inspiration on in the in the 70s and the 80s and 90s and that's why i think

01:06:07.880 this was latched onto as one of our celebrations but it's cool and i'm glad that it was and

01:06:15.560 i would not want to eat a lot of rotten shark but every time it has been presented to me i have

01:06:21.800 i have eaten it i have paused so that i can appreciate the flavor i don't need to chase

01:06:27.640 things with brenovan but i've had my brenovan separately um

01:06:32.040 factoid about me. So right now I'm drinking pirate water. Spoiler alert, it's not water.

01:06:44.000 This is the sex on the beach flavored pirate water coming in at 10%. I like to drink fruity,

01:06:51.080 ridiculous girl drinks that have umbrellas in it and that are pink colored and whatever else. 0.97

01:06:57.560 but I can do all, I can do all right with, uh, with the, with the Everclear. So as far as 0.98

01:07:06.980 celebration, I mentioned this because Brenovan is a particularly harsh alcohol, uh, for folks

01:07:13.960 that it's also considered in the drinking gross stuff category, not because it has a repugnancy

01:07:21.660 to it. I think, honestly, it's got a little bit of a, I don't know how you'd describe

01:07:28.240 it, Svan. I've heard that, I've heard it's got a little bit of a star anise kind of flavor

01:07:34.840 to it. I don't know if I'd go that far, but it's a pretty strong grain alcohol. But yeah,

01:07:44.020 one of the things that people used to do at the, long story on how I got into it, but

01:07:49.780 regardless, because of economy and cheapness and various things. I worked at this

01:08:00.020 touristy college bar place. Anybody who doesn't know, I used to work bar security for a long time.

01:08:09.820 So I worked at this place in Florida and they were all drinking Fireball or anything else,

01:08:14.300 but you know i wasn't there drinking i was there working so it was odd when somebody would buy me

01:08:19.560 a shot and you know i was grateful whatever so the bartenders asked me to come back and cut some

01:08:23.500 limes all right matt what do you have but buy a couple shots so i was going for what's the most

01:08:28.220 bang for my buck so i'm like all right you guys got everclear well they didn't down there they

01:08:32.720 call it diesel but it's the same thing it's the pure grain alcohol that's like 110 proof or

01:08:38.260 whatever. So I said, I'll take a double shot of that. And they were trying to, you know, okay,

01:08:44.340 but what do you want to mix it? I don't need to mix it with it. Well, you want to chase it? I

01:08:47.780 don't need to chase it. I'm a grown man. And so I was getting indignant at all the things they'd

01:08:51.860 offer me to try to make it go down easier. But then everybody thought it was a fun game to

01:08:57.420 say they got me one drink, but they got me a triple shot of the diesel and then watch as I

01:09:02.780 drink it, but I can go hard if I got to, but I like the fruity drinks. I don't even know how I

01:09:10.880 got on that. I think it was the Brennavin. So that's another thing. So culturally,

01:09:17.420 what is the deal with Brennavin? When my father and my stepmother went to Iceland, they had like a

01:09:24.280 layover there or something on a trip they went on. They bought me some and it's like a big,

01:09:28.800 it's a big deal why is that such a relevant cultural drink for your ancestors well i think

01:09:37.300 mainly because it's production is is uh it's distilled but uh you when you consider

01:09:43.020 the the crop that's available and the distillation process and then the flavoring afterwards and

01:09:52.120 what's available then um you know the the it's it's mainly based around rye wheat and i think

01:09:58.520 like most alcohols, you're looking at an overabundance or perhaps like an unspecified

01:10:05.760 amount. Like you get the good stuff that goes to get, you know, ground up into flour. And then

01:10:13.280 there's like the leftover and the leftover is not always the best, or perhaps it's just, you know,

01:10:19.400 not quite ready or dry enough or what have you. So they hold it for later or they separate it out

01:10:25.940 And then they use that for the, you know, the proper, um, the must or, or the, um, the, the grains like mash mixed with water to create, um, you know, the original to, to get the, the, uh, the yeast to start producing alcohol and then they distill it and then they flavor it again with a, the, the rye flavor.

01:10:48.980 So I would say anybody that's never tried Brinevin, the one thing that's worth remembering is it tastes a lot like rye bread or like a deep, dark, rich pumpernickel.

01:11:00.160 And it's in an alcohol form.

01:11:04.400 And so I really think that that's the major reason why.

01:11:07.700 It's the one that's like scotches to Scotland.

01:11:13.720 Brinevin is that toasted barley rye that's used to create kind of our national liquor, if you will.

01:11:24.460 I mean, there's a lot of beer that's to be drunk and made in Iceland now, but I don't necessarily think that was entirely the case a long time ago.

01:11:35.080 I think it was a lot easier once the processes of distillation became more prevalent and it was easier to carry.

01:11:41.800 It was a smaller amount. Um, and so now it's, it's a traditional thing to even be, well, I wouldn't say like Icelanders on a regular, but the idea of it is that Icelanders understand like a, you know, a traditional, um, breakfast, uh, of like oats and of rye bread with some sort of, uh, salad, or I guess it would be like, like an egg salad is, yeah, it's considered a salad.

01:12:06.540 But it's like, you know, fermented or sweet pickled herring or perhaps like a, you know, a mayo based with with tiny shrimp and fish.

01:12:18.700 Have you ever heard? I'm sorry to interrupt, but I have to. Have you ever heard of something called West Coast salad?

01:12:27.740 OK, pause. This is not called that. I'm told that's that's what it was translated to me that the Swedes eat.

01:12:33.920 but it's called west coast salad their west coast puts them really close to norway which

01:12:43.000 i assume is the ancestor of a lot of icelandic foods

01:12:45.960 it is amazing my true i took an afa trip to sweden a number of years back and there was this stuff

01:12:54.620 again at breakfast time it was this like a seafood-y mayonnaise-y kind of salad thing

01:13:02.080 it was called west coast salad and it was delicious i have to throw that out there

01:13:09.380 any of our swedes are listening if any of you know swedes west coast salad it's good stuff

01:13:15.940 i wish i had some i had some right now i would pause this broadcast and go eat it

01:13:20.900 um it's amazing i just had to put it out there something i want to clear up something in the

01:13:27.820 chat too. Nick was claiming that I benched 350. Just want to put it out there. My best ever bench

01:13:33.320 was 395. But I tore up my left shoulder. And so I don't do a lot of flat benches anymore. It just

01:13:44.240 doesn't work right on my rotator cuff. But I got it up to 395, just for the record.

01:13:50.700 somebody else asked if I like pina coladas also wanted to say this that is by far my

01:13:58.800 as a basic answer to the question that is my favorite drink is pina colada if

01:14:07.260 you want to punk me and we're out somewhere and you order me a pina colada the joke's on you

01:14:14.040 because I will enjoy every bit of it and be the happiest guy in the world that's my favorite

01:14:19.460 but my real favorite is and I've only seen it on the menu one place but had to get it was what's

01:14:26.320 called a horchata colada which is basically a mix between horchata and pina colada so it's

01:14:32.200 pina colada but with like cinnamon absolutely amazing highly recommended

01:14:37.120 well uh one thing that I really like to do and this is just uh something that like more

01:14:44.080 I used to brew a lot. I don't brew that much anymore, but people that are interested in

01:14:49.780 brewing, one of the things, uh, there is of course Thor's night, uh, or, you know, Thor's day during

01:14:56.200 Yule. And, um, that's a great time to kind of, uh, you know, pitch your yeast for mead during that

01:15:04.280 usually will be ready by the time of Austria. But, um, a quick thing you can do is also set up some,

01:15:11.620 some, uh, brew for Thorobloat. And one of the things that I really like to do is to take, um,

01:15:17.920 like a gallon jug of, um, unfiltered organic apple juice. Usually you can find them at like

01:15:26.180 a Trader Joe's or some sort of kind of, um, you know, a little bit more like, I guess, holistic,

01:15:31.940 um, food marts. And you can take a little bit out and actually put a stopper on the gallon

01:15:38.640 jug and uh so you put your yeast in there put your stopper in there and you let it ferment and then

01:15:44.540 you can rack it into really whatever bottles you have even twist tops and um let them ferment a

01:15:52.580 little bit more and then throw them in your fridge and um you know kill the the yeast production

01:15:58.000 and um as long as you're kind of releasing the gas uh from the caps you know barring you won't

01:16:04.820 have any like explosions in your fridge, you'll have, um, an app, a hard apple cider, depending

01:16:11.200 on the yeast you use. You can use champagne yeast. I've used beer yeast. I've, so I've been

01:16:16.320 on both ends and, um, I've, you know, rate got my alcohol up to about 8% with the beer yeast

01:16:22.780 and, um, 11 to 12 with the, um, champagne yeast. And you could have a nice, um, you know, quick

01:16:31.420 apple, hard apple, uh, cider or hard apple juice, um, by Thor bloat easily. Cause it only takes

01:16:40.580 about two and a half weeks to finish. So doing that was kind of like a fun thing to do on Thor's

01:16:47.340 night. And that was completely done with the idea of like, well, you know, Astra is a long way away

01:16:54.480 and mead takes forever. Let's do something fast as well. And, um, it's super easy to do. I'm

01:17:01.280 sure there's recipes all you would have to do is look up you know like hard apple cider in in the

01:17:07.120 jug and there's probably articles upon articles about it um in which it's like a quick kind of

01:17:13.360 um you know countertop brewing uh project that you can do quite easily and guaranteed by the end

01:17:21.360 of january it's going to be ready to go um and you just got to be careful and then of course

01:17:25.680 it's sneaky, but it's also nice. You can drink a little bit then and then save the rest and

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01:19:33.240 I appreciate you saying so.

01:19:38.600 Sometimes these, on the six and seven hour episodes, I will take it.

01:19:44.560 it is absolutely a chore when it goes that long but it's important and it's literally what what

01:19:50.560 spawn and i both signed up and took oaths before the gods to do uh but honestly this is fun i look

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01:20:05.280 these with you guys also ryan wants to make a joke and says that not only do i like the pina

01:20:12.000 coladas but every now and again i take walks in the rain or enjoy getting caught in the rain that's

01:20:18.640 what he said while all both of those things are true i do not like jimmy buffett no i do not

01:20:25.440 so don't get that that wasn't oh no it's not jimmy buffett who is it oh no i can't remember yes no

01:20:35.680 no no i can't either and that bothers me now but no i do not like that song so um we've got some

01:20:44.160 questions backing up and i want to get to some of them hopefully we can catch some of these folks

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01:21:04.800 so um where are we at on the questions going up to all right first question and i think we've

01:21:17.220 already answered it but i think there may be a little bit more to it uh does thor bloat have

01:21:24.420 to do with Thor actually uh no it doesn't and it is Thorablot and Svan can break down the Icelandic

01:21:36.460 etymology of that a little bit to you and quite honestly maybe etymologically Thoramont may relate

01:21:46.020 back to thor in some way um the best i've been able to discover is it being named after a

01:21:54.820 celebration to a king of finland named thorry uh which translates into frost

01:22:05.540 and that's what i believe it was and the the theory goes that there were yearly sacrifices

01:22:12.980 to celebrate that uh that king and that that's what it goes back to but no quite honestly it's

01:22:19.620 never been a literal one for one that it has anything to do with thor until the modern period

01:22:24.580 where we decided to say you know let's just do it and call it good uh do you have more to add on that

01:22:31.460 Yeah, so the month 40 is kind of where it originates from in the idea that that's the time that it's done.

01:22:45.240 It's done in midwinter, and it kind of became its own, you know, again, like speaking about in the 19th century.

01:22:56.540 Um, but it's connections to, or, and I didn't bring it up because it's in one saga in which their, their, their belief that there was a king, um, from Finland that, uh, or, or perhaps it wasn't even actually Finland yet.

01:23:16.460 it was before that time um in which the territories of the northern or the great north there was

01:23:24.680 a king or a chieftain who was celebrated by doing bloats to thor in midwinter um and then those two

01:23:33.140 became synonymous since his name was thori uh there's some mystical stuff around him um in

01:23:40.980 relation to possibly being related to a Jotnar. And I know that, I mean, even in Iceland, they do

01:23:48.480 this too, where people will speak about being, like they have troll blood in them, they're

01:23:53.160 particularly big. So, I mean, it's very viable that the idea that he's connected to a giant or

01:24:01.020 a Jotun or a troll or something of that could be referencing to perhaps his size and his strength

01:24:07.860 or what have you um however you know it was marked down um in in the sagas that uh came

01:24:17.380 kind of came late um a lot of the sagas that were written down in the 12th century

01:24:22.500 um it was kind of mentioned more in the 13th century in a very small um saga in relation

01:24:28.260 to the orkney isles and um how it transferred from say like you know the origins being from

01:24:37.940 finland or northern finland and you know eastern sweden northeastern sweden uh or that territory

01:24:44.980 at the time and how it kind of shifted down into the orkneys is i i don't really know and again by

01:24:54.340 that time in the in the 13th century uh you know the the uh conversion of things there might there

01:25:03.540 could very well have been the ideas like okay there were bloats given to thor but we're going

01:25:10.820 to say thori who maybe was the one instigating the bloats to thor even after the conversion times

01:25:18.180 because he was so far north, um, and was able to do so without getting a lot of, you

01:25:23.500 know, uh, Jimmy's rustled, if you will, um, uh, that it kind of became synonymous with

01:25:31.500 him in relation to kind of downplaying maybe the overall, but nobody really knows. And

01:25:38.140 so you get kind of two explanations when you, when you look for it. I mean, there's clearly

01:25:43.580 the mention of king thori um but the information about him is scant and there's a lot of myth

01:25:52.140 uh mystical things kind of connected to him and that he is you know related to a jotnar and his

01:25:58.380 children are named after uh you know the effects of of winter and snow and and rime ice and things

01:26:05.740 like that um and that may have had some connections to the name of um the month used in the iceland

01:26:13.500 calendar there are a couple of months where etymologists don't quite know exactly where

01:26:19.420 they came from but um i kind of feel like at the by the time of the 13th century

01:26:27.180 what they were probably doing was trying to downplay and i'm not trying to use this boogeyman

01:26:32.220 um kind of caveat that like a lot of people will use but if there were thor i think there were

01:26:39.820 bloats to thor um you know probably done throughout the year quite often and perhaps maybe

01:26:47.180 in that region under the auspice of a king named thori or perhaps he had some great drive towards

01:26:53.980 thor he wanted to hold bloats to him and was far enough north that he could do it without um

01:27:02.700 getting a lot of uh flack and i think those those kind of spread the stories may have spread or

01:27:08.780 or something like that and they just kind of got written down and carried their way over the uh

01:27:14.940 the another thing worth noting is that back in the day but they couldn't fly to iceland so a lot of

01:27:20.860 times the um the boats would move like to scotland northern scotland the orkney isles the pharaoh

01:27:29.100 islands and then up into iceland it was a safer way to travel during certain parts of the year

01:27:34.620 other parts not so much um and perhaps that had some effect on the calendar construction

01:27:42.540 um but we don't quite know so you'll find like one blurb about the saga and king thorry and

01:27:55.180 and nobody quite knows where exactly he's from or uh you know there's speculation was he finnish

01:28:01.180 was he swedish was it uh just in a separate territory at the time um and then you'll find

01:28:07.540 that the the nationalists of iceland focused more on um the the the elements of being icelandic and

01:28:17.020 one of the things that they really focused on was was thor as a divine being or at least

01:28:23.200 kind of coincided that together and i wonder if that was done if that synthesis was done

01:28:29.040 from the blood uh in in a in a way i think that even though perhaps you know icelanders are

01:28:36.120 generally seen as a lutheran people um they've always kind of held christianity very loosely

01:28:42.060 um and you know there was always uh lots of stories about people practicing old ways and

01:28:48.640 it was demonized heavily especially in the early parts of iceland uh you know around the 11th 12th

01:28:55.740 13th and even 14th century, um, where, you know, uh, people practicing the old ways were seen as

01:29:01.840 wizards and witches and, or just, you know, uh, in leagues with trolls and elves. And it was kind

01:29:09.300 of like a spooky, uh, thing. So I think that the nationalists of Iceland in the 19th century,

01:29:15.960 uh, you know, and especially really, really hammering at home during what their kind of

01:29:21.640 romantic revival which was in the late 30s early 40s um decided that this was you know the month

01:29:30.160 40s month 40 month was the time that they would celebrate it and they called it for a bloat

01:29:35.500 after the month but then that would naturally lead towards belief systems of icelanders before

01:29:43.200 christianity uh in a way kind of before foreign influence if you will um i don't know if that i

01:29:49.140 I can't speak and say that's their absolute intention, but it certainly went down that thread.

01:29:54.480 And I, you know, I don't think anybody was amiss in the idea of it or really, you know, they nobody really kind of, again, turn their nose towards it.

01:30:06.080 Instead, it was elevated and it was, you know, brought up to festivities for fun.

01:30:10.660 And so the synthesis of Thor into the month of Thori and the possible origins towards Thori the king and his midwinter bloats perhaps to Thor is kind of all linked together.

01:30:28.140 But it's one of those holidays that just kind of tightened itself up from many strands, kind of becoming like a rope.

01:30:36.100 And I think a lot of our holidays are like that.

01:30:40.660 if you will. You know, they kind of end up, you know, Hexanok for us is very similar to like

01:30:46.620 Valsbergenok, which is celebrated in Sweden. And a lot of that may have come from mainland Germany

01:30:52.440 when their influence during the time that Sweden was a formidable kingdom and had a, you know,

01:31:00.160 a very active army during like Napoleonic eras. So.

01:31:05.000 all right so um got a five dollar donation from survive 2030 says hail our gods thank you very

01:31:16.840 much we appreciate your donation um next up in the line of questions uh is thorough bloat exclusive

01:31:29.080 to iceland or is it celebrated in other parts of europe and the west so as swan mentioned earlier

01:31:35.400 it's either celebrated by icelandic you know expats and people with icelandic heritage

01:31:44.920 or it's celebrated by alsatruar um so yeah where there are folks like swan who are are from from

01:31:57.640 iceland uh there is there is celebration of it but i don't think it's it's culturally celebrated

01:32:04.200 anywhere else outside of those as an homage to that ethnicity or by people who practice house

01:32:13.080 of truth uh is that correct swan yeah and i would say again uh thoroughbred in relation to icelandic

01:32:21.480 national and ethnic identity is icelandic but a celebration to thor and a midwinter bloat

01:32:30.940 that is named you know thoroblot um and is not exclusive to iceland i think that again when

01:32:38.260 we're talking about king thorry possibly being from you know finland and um the kind of the the

01:32:45.020 the rumor of the of midwinter bloats kind of passing through sweden and and uh maybe zealand

01:32:51.500 and the orkney isles and faro and faroe islands and iceland so there was probably a lot of of um

01:32:59.580 kind of shared ideas but it became icelandic and then with the foundation of of alsatru as a kind

01:33:08.540 kind of organizing and functioning religion in America, the American foundations of Ausatru

01:33:15.160 really did start to pull from different sources. And I think that it's worth noting that like

01:33:22.700 Viking fetishism or Viking focus is more or less now I would view it as a component. We understand

01:33:32.740 that there's a lot of gravity in the study of the Norse, but there's also in like the Frigians

01:33:39.520 and in the English or the Anglos and the early Anglos that were living in Denmark and then

01:33:47.380 and northern or, you know, lowland Germany and along the Baltic Sea. There's a lot of

01:33:57.540 components now because we have so much access to the survival of our native uh ethnic faith

01:34:05.460 in europe in the shadow of uh christianity or catholicism that survived in its different ways

01:34:12.900 so i think as americans we're um pulling those components and there was a heavy component

01:34:19.540 towards strictly just norse but now it is one of many components that you will find because you

01:34:26.340 You have a lot of people now who are German or they're a Germanic and Gaelic admixture.

01:34:35.880 And some people get caught up on on splitting threads like, oh, I can't celebrate Thordoblo because I'm not Icelandic.

01:34:43.600 But I should celebrate perhaps like German holidays or so on and so forth.

01:34:47.880 I think that's the wrong way to go.

01:34:49.480 I think the best way to look at it is, is that the native indigenous faith of the Germanic people or the Teutonic people had various elements. And we as Americans are often made up of those various locations in Europe and that we are kind of coming back together. And so taking note of that, but I think it would be, you know, focusing on Thor in the midwinter bloat, I think is the definitive thing that separates.

01:35:19.480 it from an Icelandic holiday. You won't go to a Thorobloat with Icelanders and they're not going 0.99

01:35:25.880 to have a harrow. They're not going to be, you know, holding horns and filling and giving gifts

01:35:31.760 of vehicles of fluid or food or gifts to Thor. In general, it's a celebration of themselves.

01:35:41.940 And that's fine too, I think, especially in light of how it was created and the time it was created.

01:35:46.960 but that's the difference between our Thoroblot and what could be your Thoroblot is because Thor

01:35:53.040 is not exclusive to Icelanders. So yeah, just so everybody gets it. And we've been straightforward

01:36:01.860 with this. There's, there's two Thoroblots. There is the cultural romantic celebration of

01:36:10.740 Icelandic heritage and Icelandic nationalism. And in that sense, it's very much like

01:36:16.660 St. Patrick's Day or Cinco de Mayo or anything else.

01:36:22.040 People want to have a party and do Icelandic stuff.

01:36:24.960 It's caught on way less.

01:36:26.780 It's a much more obscure version of that.

01:36:29.660 But a lot of it's like that.

01:36:31.120 For Ausatruar, it's a celebration of Thor in midwinter,

01:36:38.060 but it's also an appreciation of Iceland

01:36:42.800 as the last vestige of our faith before the conversion period.

01:36:51.340 Alistair lasted the longest in Iceland.

01:36:54.400 That was the last, that was the,

01:36:59.520 I'm trying to think of a way to phrase this.

01:37:01.840 That was the latest period to where we reached back to,

01:37:07.320 to re-embrace, come on, sweetheart.

01:37:10.480 I love you, sweet good.

01:37:12.800 thank you all right so yeah so it's kind of the last the last bastion of our faith

01:37:23.100 um and i think that's that's worth celebration in and of itself but people are oh i'm german

01:37:31.160 i only can celebrate german things if you are in bavaria i there's i guess if that's how you

01:37:40.040 want to do it, go for it. If you're in the United States, I think it's kind of silly.

01:37:44.720 Our people have always traveled and taken our faith with them. It's not strictly rooted to

01:37:53.020 place. Alcatru isn't rooted neither to place nor to time. There is something sacred about

01:38:01.720 sacred spaces and about Odal land, and I'm not suggesting there's not, but our people have always

01:38:08.020 been explorers and conquerors and adventurers you know before you know if you're the super german guy

01:38:17.300 before you were german in the full wandering you were further east than that before that

01:38:26.660 you probably migrated in from the steppe before that you probably migrated south from the uh

01:38:34.260 retreating glaciation of the ice age our people have moved around and aren't rooted to just one

01:38:43.180 location that's always been the case um and for those of us largely who listen to this that are

01:38:49.680 in the that are in america our people conquered and traveled and colonized and built this continent

01:38:58.380 it as well and you know thousands of miles away from it's arbitrary when where you want to pick

01:39:04.780 that one homeland unless you go all the way back to area varta or hyperborea or wherever you put

01:39:12.620 that pinpoint on the map but our people have always moved and will continue to do so i think it's

01:39:18.860 especially in the united states when we are a collection of so many european and aryan

01:39:30.860 ethnicities to only hyper focus on one at the exclusion of others i think we end up cheating

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01:40:54.060 Okay. Evening fellas, how are our hosts tonight? I'm doing great. I look forward to these.

01:41:02.300 um didn't know what i was gonna get out of the pirate water

01:41:07.260 these are 10 per can and they were at walmart for like under two dollars i think this is a solid

01:41:15.260 purchase i'm happy with that um doing good tonight talking with you guys is something i look forward

01:41:22.060 to all week swan is one of my very best friends so getting to spend a little bit of time hanging

01:41:27.660 out with him is awesome. And I also chose my life. I love this. And yeah, anytime I get to

01:41:38.220 spend time with my friends and talk about our gods and our faith, I'm a happy guy. How are you

01:41:44.100 doing, Svon? I'm doing great. Lots of stuff still going on here and big ventures and lots of

01:41:52.740 planning and it's just so full it's like a wound spring there's so much going on um and uh i do

01:42:00.660 again i come straight from work uh to get onto the podcast and i get a chance to i know uh it's

01:42:07.460 it's fun because this is probably the most i get to talk with you um and we have all these people

01:42:14.260 with us as well so it's kind of nice it's um you know with all of us being so busy i i i like to

01:42:20.660 come home and it gives me a chance to breathe and relax and uh just chat and have a good time and

01:42:28.580 talk to you because i don't again like i think a lot of people don't realize we don't prep for this

01:42:34.180 we don't um have uh you know loaded questions or things like that we just get in and get on and

01:42:42.980 kind of have our conversations like we always have um but adding that element of of the the

01:42:49.300 the questions and then really starting to see new names in the chat and old names that give

01:42:55.300 you know just they place out really good questions um kind of get my my brain going and and looking

01:43:03.380 up things and um you know trying to further my knowledge just by other people's questions and

01:43:12.100 things in uh comments and remarks this is really really fun it's a great midweek re-snap back into

01:43:20.340 what's really important versus kind of the grind or or just dealing with you know uh work and

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01:43:38.340 all right

01:43:38.660 All right. Next one we got. Can we talk about how basically all Christmas tradition comes from

01:43:51.480 Germanic paganism? So yeah, and we did that a couple of weeks ago, but it's worth taking a

01:44:00.280 moment. And not all of Christmas. So the parts of Christmas that are, okay, first,

01:44:10.780 what a lot of Christmas tradition comes from Germanic paganism.

01:44:17.200 Nearly all of Christmas tradition comes from Aryan paganism generally.

01:44:22.240 the manger scene that's all christian right that's that's that's keeping it that's keeping

01:44:31.640 it biblical um i'm trying to think you know what only sort of the three magi are probably

01:44:44.560 zoroastrian um which has aryan roots

01:44:51.600 the baby jesus getting born in a manger that's middle eastern that's desert stuff

01:44:59.760 well they got camels in the manger scene uh that's desert stuff also

01:45:05.440 Also, I guess Midnight Mass is desert stuff, but not really.

01:45:14.500 It's like Roman exaltation of desert stuff.

01:45:21.680 One thing that I will say that is really, really cool and beautiful about Christmas stuff is the less silly and more religious Christmas music.

01:45:35.440 it's very well done and it sticks with you and it gets stuck in my head and some of it's really 0.75

01:45:40.960 awesome it comes from our people but it comes from our people unfortunately devoted for uh to a foreign

01:45:49.680 god and to not theirs um but all of the fun and cool stuff is absolutely ours uh not to go too

01:45:58.400 deep into it but spawn is there anything you want to say on that tis the season after all yeah i

01:46:03.440 I mean, one thing I would say is like St. Nicholas and the idea of like a Turkish Christian celebrating giving during this time of year in Greece has certainly Christian connotations.

01:46:17.220 Though I did read somewhere, and I can't quote it verbatim, but there was one we know that the trip to Bethlehem was most likely done in August-September timeframe in relation to a census being held by the Romans.

01:46:33.700 So the timing has been shifted over. But the other thing that I recently learned about was the birth of Bacchus in a manger amongst the Greeks, and that that may have been a superimposed point that was emphasized when early Christian Hebrews were coming into Greece

01:47:00.800 and kind of synthesizing with the Greeks.

01:47:04.560 And there was a lot of movement.

01:47:06.720 There was a lot of Hebrews that were joining the Greek faith

01:47:11.580 of the Hellenic Arianism at the time. 0.86

01:47:15.820 That's where a lot of the, of course, the Maccabee Revolution 1.00

01:47:19.660 and a lot of the Hebrews killing some of their own people

01:47:24.280 and a lot of the Greeks that were celebrating, you know, pagan festivals at the time.

01:47:32.120 And so there's a there's a kind of a mashup and a synthesis.

01:47:35.860 But I think that the best and purest form that we really need to kind of tip our hats towards is the English.

01:47:41.600 The Anglo traditions that I think a lot of modern left leaning pagans really try to disassociate themselves with

01:47:50.640 is the saxon anglo origins of much of america's um foundational um celebrations i mean even down

01:48:00.200 to um uh you know creating like christmas uh pudding um the the bread pudding that you know

01:48:08.200 and it was being mentioned that even during the revolutionary war during uh christmas time uh

01:48:14.820 british prisoners of americans and american prisoners of british were given their uh their

01:48:20.420 pudding as a traditional um uh yuletide uh fair it wasn't even um you know it was it was given to

01:48:29.780 even prisoners of war uh as a gesture of the time because they they still could not disassociate

01:48:37.060 their cultural connectedness together even though they were having an embittered battle um over um

01:48:43.380 you know, independence versus, you know, loyalty to the crown. And that time is a tumultuous time,

01:48:50.660 but we really need to tip our hats to the English and a lot of that that came over. And then 0.99

01:48:56.760 kind of a second wave of influence from Victorian times, where a lot of that resurgence of the Yule

01:49:04.560 log and Father Christmas and a lot of the elements that never really died, but came into light and

01:49:12.380 were shared um with the world or with at least the anglo sphere in relation to having father

01:49:18.600 christmas riding a goat and carrying a wassail bowl and and so um that that revivalism in england

01:49:26.060 really helped keep and um it really just caught on because again it's in the blood and it's whether

01:49:33.900 we're talking about anglos in america or just the fact that we are all germanic or teutonic

01:49:39.680 Aryans that hold that connectivity together and then you couple that with Nordic um Aryans coming

01:49:46.720 in and settling you know this the the uh Swedish and the Norwegians all through Pennsylvania and

01:49:52.560 across into Minnesota there's so many layered elements of these individual groups but heavily

01:50:00.240 heavily um you know based off of the Teutonic people so you know there's a little bit of clear

01:50:07.520 um like synthesis between nordic germanics and uh even the the northern italians and um some of the

01:50:16.880 vestiges of saturnalia that survived in those areas um for centuries kind of intermixed it's

01:50:23.140 very similar to us uh celebrating may day and you know uh may may or mayas and and the month

01:50:30.780 and the flower month ultimately comes from the hellenic arians of rome um so we we have that

01:50:38.700 kind of synthesis that we don't often acknowledge we i think often focus too much on just nordic but

01:50:46.100 that's because it was one of the last bastions um but there if you look into it you can see there's

01:50:52.760 a lot more connective tissue all around in relation to us and i think that's one of the

01:50:57.680 reasons why our faith as also true in the modern time is a connective, uh, kind of framework that

01:51:07.860 a lot of people don't really want us to, um, hold together because again, finding those unifying

01:51:14.460 things outside of, you know, the histories of nations and past wars and grievances, unification

01:51:21.680 is, especially in a spiritual framework, really, you know, I think there's a lot of people that

01:51:28.080 don't want that to happen. They don't want us as folk to, to gain that identity. And we can

01:51:34.520 understand too, there's the Gallic people and their languages and traditions. And some of us

01:51:39.800 have bloodlines connected to them. And we have some that are, you know, Hellenic with the,

01:51:44.460 the Italians or the Etruscans and some with the Greeks and even the Slavs and Finns.

01:51:52.500 And just setting aside a lot of those grievances and differences for a unified sense

01:52:01.000 is, I think, a better move for all of us, especially here or anywhere in the Anglosphere

01:52:07.460 is a better way for us to kind of dissipate those divides

01:52:11.960 and focus on us being peoples as a whole

01:52:16.540 descending from, you know, the home dale, if you will.

01:52:24.020 So survive, you know, you ask a lot of questions over on the side.

01:52:32.860 Sorry if you're being annoying.

01:52:34.380 You're not being annoying at all.

01:52:35.600 it's i'm glad that you're so engaged and you've got so many questions about stuff um but yeah we

01:52:42.480 get it um so many and that's a really important point it's a theme that we come to in the show

01:52:51.040 very often if you haven't already you may want to read the germanization of early medieval

01:52:59.200 christianity it's a very repetitive book and the title tells you all you really need to know about

01:53:07.520 the book it goes into some specifics but yeah to make christianity palatable to our people and our

01:53:14.400 ancestors a vast amount of what you see as medieval especially early medieval christianity in europe

01:53:24.160 up is at least 75% paganism with a little Christian overlay. Um, but yeah, absolutely.

01:53:37.620 That's a thing. Um, Oh, I wanted to bring up one thing about, um, holidays, uh, two holidays

01:53:50.280 in particular uh that come to mind that when early ausiture was formulating and groups of folks were

01:53:57.880 starting to organize uh the holidays that the two holidays that i've seen kind of bump into other

01:54:05.320 holidays or perhaps um there was some confusion there was uh thora bloat and charming of the plow

01:54:13.560 and ostra and sigur bloat because our a lot of people were trying to figure out exactly what

01:54:22.600 holy tides to try try to focus on or gear towards some people uh disavowed thorbalt completely and

01:54:30.680 went for like um d sir bloat um and uh you know the the um practice of it being held in february

01:54:39.000 that was marked down in iceland other people um again charming of the plow originates itself from

01:54:46.200 uh the acre boat prayer from the anglo-saxons and preparing the the fields in the uh late winter

01:54:54.360 and and start cutting the ground but that has a lot more prevalence further south than perhaps

01:54:59.960 in the nordic countries because the land was still you know solidly frozen and so these these holy

01:55:06.360 tides that were components being organized and and figured out kind of started to bump into each

01:55:11.560 other so you would find in the early days like uh alsatruer who would celebrate charming of the

01:55:17.480 plow in like january february time frame and you would find other alsatru that would celebrate

01:55:23.320 thoroblot and then there'd be other alsatru truer who were like no we don't celebrate

01:55:27.240 thoroblot we want to celebrate uh de-serble because that's when it was marked as you know

01:55:32.360 know being held and there's a lot of components to understanding holy tides and there's a certain

01:55:39.860 level of of organization that you have to kind of come into common sense with and grid those

01:55:47.360 over it and one of them is that you know diesel bloke being held in february as opposed to alvar

01:55:53.680 bloke being held during the winter nights um you know uh may have had more connections to

01:56:01.560 cultural things or things going on specifically at the time whereas the idea of being able to

01:56:10.240 honor the dc or the alvar are not entirely held to just a holy tide it can be all year round

01:56:17.000 uh same with thor you know we honor thor all throughout the year quite often and

01:56:21.920 thorobloat is just unique to us now in relation to how thorobloat has been um

01:56:28.080 molded and understood by Alcetru. And so it's kind of, it's become its own official. And then

01:56:35.340 Charming in the Plow was kind of separated from that and brought in to a little bit deeper into

01:56:41.620 the year because it makes a lot more sense with people who are, you know, farther in the, you

01:56:46.760 know, in the, in the temperate zones of, of the world. And then, you know, Sigurbloth and Ostra,

01:56:52.540 there was a clear desire to give homage to our anglo-saxon roots but sigur bloat wasn't lost

01:57:01.300 we just you know a bloat to victory uh again is one of those that can be held all year round so

01:57:07.220 we we shifted that to around the time of like the l thing and uh the the gatherings of people to

01:57:14.280 discuss events and get together um so none of these were lost and that was what i think the

01:57:21.720 biggest thing was was that trying not to lose everything but give everything its proper timing

01:57:27.400 and it has definitely caused a lot of I don't know just maybe debate or um things like a couple

01:57:35.860 of things that I that I want to say that first to this and back to um your observation uh survive

01:57:46.160 that so many of the customs around Christmas

01:57:50.340 are certainly Aryan, pagan in origin.

01:57:59.980 One thing that just coming in you may not be aware of,

01:58:05.340 I came to this from Jehovah's Witness-ism,

01:58:10.280 if that's a word.

01:58:12.860 But no, for a time there when I was...

01:58:16.160 you know, first entering adulthood when I was like 18, 19, I was Jehovah's Witness.

01:58:21.700 And one thing I'm very, very thankful to the Jehovah's Witnesses for, 0.93

01:58:26.660 they made a very good effort to take all of the paganism out of their Christianity. 0.98

01:58:35.040 And that made a very stark contrast into things that you like about religion or the church

01:58:44.980 or those cultural things versus biblical and Jesus things.

01:58:52.100 And it made that decision very, very clear.

01:58:55.500 And that helped me a lot to come to a breaking point with Christianity

01:59:03.320 and to clearly understand where certain things came from.

01:59:09.540 So it gave me a very clear choice, and it didn't muddy the waters

01:59:13.380 in the way that the Christian church fathers did initially

01:59:16.520 to trick our ancestors into easily converting to Christianity. 0.72

01:59:25.540 So that was very helpful for me. 0.98

01:59:26.920 The other thing about timing of ritual and timing of holidays and whatever else,

01:59:32.660 I think it bears repeating.

01:59:34.600 we have absolutely zero intention of trying to gauge the efficacy or the value of what we do now

01:59:45.760 based upon how closely it emulates the actions of our ancestors

01:59:51.360 actions are relevant to time and place and circumstance principles are not principles are

02:00:01.160 eternal. Neither Svan nor myself are pre-medieval Vikings trying to practice Ausatru in the year

02:00:13.300 800 in Norway. That's not what we're doing. We're Ausatru are in 2023 practicing Ausatru in the way

02:00:23.620 that's most relevant and most accessible

02:00:27.760 and most appropriate in the day and age that we live in.

02:00:32.220 We celebrate our holidays in that context

02:00:37.680 and that's how we live our lives.

02:00:40.000 Much like the Asatruar in Norway in 800,

02:00:45.580 practice Asatru very different than those in,

02:00:50.580 say, 1 A.D., the Germanic tribesmen practicing Ausatru.

02:00:58.160 Just as those men practiced Ausatru extremely different than our Neolithic ancestors who

02:01:07.180 practiced our faith in, you know, 2000 B.C.

02:01:12.720 so specific practice is relevant to place to time to circumstance but the principles

02:01:22.860 are what we want to carry forward so it's really important when we think about any way that we

02:01:28.700 practice our faith is what is the purpose what are we doing that's why i kind of broke it down

02:01:36.080 earlier thorobloat you're having fun with your family and your friends and your folk

02:01:42.280 and you're giving honor and celebration to aussie thor that's the purpose we're trying to accomplish

02:01:50.140 that makes a lot of sense today in light of icelandic romanticism of the early 1900s

02:02:00.920 it works very well for us now it's not something our ancient ancestors practiced it's certainly not

02:02:08.260 something that our ancestors practiced before they discovered Iceland and it's something that

02:02:13.780 may be less relevant to practice when our ancestors you know travel to the stars or not

02:02:21.100 our ancestors our descendants travel to the stars but celebrating time with your folk and

02:02:30.820 your family and raising worship and celebration to Asa Thor will be just as relevant then as it

02:02:39.360 is today, as it was in 800, as it was in 2000 BC, and always will be in the future. So it's really

02:02:50.000 important to realize that. Our next question is about the etymology of Asa Thor.

02:02:56.500 um basically it's two pieces it's applying

02:03:03.460 the word also to thor as a prefix basically it means thor of the isir thor of the gods and aus

02:03:16.020 is a god um so it is you know thor of the gods thor's name itself comes from you know proto

02:03:28.980 indo-european uh thuneras meaning thunder he is the thunderer he is personified and understood

02:03:41.000 by the might of the thunderstorm of lightning and of that power and so he is he's Thor of the

02:03:48.340 Aesir also Thor just like we practice also true uh troth or loyalty to the Aesir do you have

02:03:57.340 anything to add on that uh etymologically fun uh yeah there's when we think of like

02:04:03.340 Thrizaz and Wodhanaz and Ingwaz, the usage of an AZ or an AS can be traced back in usage

02:04:13.940 with the Gothic language as well, mainly through the alphabet that there was a Christian monk

02:04:23.060 by the name of Uphilas who was trying to convert the Gutanish people or the Gutans or the Goths,

02:04:29.120 and he marked down most of the lettering based off of the runic symbols.

02:04:38.600 And with that being said, it seems to be that the Goths had enough of an understanding

02:04:45.600 that he felt the need to directly correlate as opposed to just entirely superimposing

02:04:51.740 the Greek alphabet onto their language.

02:04:55.740 And so it seems that the AZ or Aus derivative at the end or at the beginning or just the usage of it by the Viking Age or the Nordic Age is that Aus was synonymous with a god or a power.

02:05:12.400 And it may have shown up in earlier forms of Germanic languages at the end, like Tiawas and Woldanas and Thonaras, and that over time it just became, even though it was kind of always attached, it was the general idea of the usage of the word being divine, a divine one, a pillar.

02:05:31.240 um it may have uh connotations to like a strut or a support and that again would

02:05:37.660 have a lot of connotations towards the ordering and the stability that the gods place upon the

02:05:44.560 world and so i i that's the word aus asa i see here um and again it survives in in english with

02:05:56.580 the OS, like in Oswald, you know, the meaning of it being a divine power sometimes.

02:06:07.880 If I'm right with this one, correct me if I'm not, it also goes back to the idea of

02:06:14.320 an estuary or the mouth of a river system. Is that true as well?

02:06:22.060 yeah and the well in anglo-saxon especially in relation to the rune it's mentioned that

02:06:28.620 the os is like an estuary or an open uh mouth or river i think uh a lot of the correlations

02:06:36.540 of the idea of like the giving of power or the ones that we give gifts to and and then gain from

02:06:44.140 um is closely connected as well with the idea of that i mean when you see translations of like

02:06:51.020 oscar or oswald as names you'll see oscar kind of translated as spear of god but what it really is

02:06:59.740 is the same as the icelandic name ausger which means spear of the gods or spear of one of the

02:07:05.740 gods or in particular oven um uh it's they sometimes they superimpose that it's just

02:07:14.780 god because it's not incorrect aus means god and we should be able to um completely uh you know

02:07:25.420 use those two interchangeably but in our language god and goddess have a lot more clarity than say

02:07:33.020 aus and aus senior which a lot of people might not and then again if we're lending too much

02:07:38.860 to the nordic component i've got a question

02:07:43.660 if an icelander or a old north speaker wanted to reference not by name but by

02:07:55.580 what it is the god of the jews what would they say well so the usage of the word like god go like uh

02:08:07.020 a like gold and goodness and god would it be god or would it be tear or would it be house

02:08:15.900 what no it would not be words that mean god literally but the tense or the the implication

02:08:24.700 is very different how would we yeah no it was known that house and tear and uh those usages

02:08:32.300 of the words um and of course using them in a plural context was older older ways as opposed

02:08:40.940 to like the the big g god that was used but even that word comes again from the the the goths and

02:08:49.980 the germans ultimately and the the translation during the time of uh you know when germanization

02:08:56.860 was coming into modern christianity you know switching from and it's relatively recent you

02:09:02.860 know okay as a modern son of iceland though if you were in iceland and you wanted to refer to

02:09:10.060 the god of the jews or the god of the you know the the god of the pueblo or the god of the

02:09:23.980 the congolese what would you say you would say like god god god it's and it's okay yeah it's not

02:09:35.420 house it's not tier though it is kind of funny like in iceland they call hanukkah it's it's jewish

02:09:43.260 yule is how it's translated they call it jew yule yeah it's it's it's yule is is absolutely

02:09:53.980 yeah it's it's completely held in framework over every kind of um holiday at this time

02:10:01.660 it's it's all okay so so question here and i'll blame this on the pirate water

02:10:08.860 in in reikovic what is kwanzaa

02:10:16.460 the same as it is in america it doesn't exist

02:10:18.540 so okay random factoid also i'll blame it on the pirate water magnum pi i am old don't get mad at

02:10:31.180 me um first you kids out there the original magnum pi not with the mexican fella but with tom selick

02:10:40.460 is awesome and a really good show secondly tc his um ebony buddy i appreciated tc because he was

02:10:51.740 proud of his folk and his people and i remember he made a special point at a very early stage

02:10:59.020 in america of him and his black wife and black family were going to celebrate kwanzaa and i

02:11:06.700 And I thought that was entertaining to me.

02:11:09.680 And I don't know why it came up, but it did.

02:11:12.360 Because Svan suggested it didn't exist.

02:11:15.500 It existed for TC and his helicopter, that being said.

02:11:20.400 But if you were to refer, would that be like Black Yule

02:11:25.140 in Icelandic?

02:11:28.520 No, I honestly don't know in relation to that.

02:11:34.080 I joke because I, you know, I live in the South and I, you know, I've gone to school, been in the South is, especially on the East Coast, you know, a lot of blacks and whites living together and I've never actually met any black folk who celebrated Kwanzaa.

02:11:55.320 most of them are you know what i have i wish i had i had i suppose have one black friend

02:12:05.720 from high school and i have always encouraged him to celebrate kwanzaa if i were a black man

02:12:12.800 i would proudly celebrate kwanzaa um but i don't think he does and i don't really i'm just kind

02:12:19.660 of curious etymologically we got on the word yeah to keep it serious i mean that so uh michael

02:12:25.260 from njortzhoff no they did a reboot everybody's rebooting because nobody can come up with new

02:12:30.380 ideas so they did a reboot magnum pi and because we're in 2023 and you can't have a heterosexual

02:12:39.480 white male protagonist they needed to make thomas magnum a mexican fella um anyways

02:12:49.220 That being said, I appreciate that, Monk. I try to keep it youthful, but where are we at? Okay, so Finraith, speaking of Iceland, I'm curious, are there any AFA members in Iceland? 0.61

02:13:07.360 no there's not we had um we had one for a time and

02:13:14.840 it's interesting and so again we're I am doing this halfway to annoy Svan but him being uh

02:13:27.220 our resident Icelander he can tell us a little bit about how accurate this is I think there's

02:13:34.060 like 400 000 icelanders in existence it is a relatively small population set um we have had

02:13:46.140 one member there and he i think had some developmental issues perhaps um he was a

02:13:58.380 little bit different but um he was a member for a minute and i think because there wasn't

02:14:03.500 a lot of infrastructure he didn't stay a member unfortunately they have an also

02:14:14.860 they have a group that calls themselves an also true organization swan could break down the 0.87

02:14:21.420 etymology and i'm going to butcher this and i'm going to offend your ancestors swan i apologize 0.75

02:14:27.660 the also truer failure yeah the also true fellowship 0.79

02:14:33.500 So, but that is kind of a silly atheist group that is a tax dodge because, so, okay, I'm going to break this down.

02:14:51.480 It's relevant to the conversation. 0.93

02:14:52.880 It's certainly relevant to the Iceland thing and to what we're discussing tonight.

02:14:58.960 It has become this.

02:15:00.580 I am not claiming that it was always this.

02:15:04.220 but there's in europe in a lot of european countries in scandinavia in particular

02:15:11.420 very and i think this is true in iceland norway and sweden i'm not sure in denmark

02:15:18.300 but there's a percentage of your taxes that can go to your religion of choice

02:15:26.060 the default in those countries is to the Lutheran Church if you don't want your money going to if

02:15:37.880 you're an atheist in Iceland and you don't want your money going to support the Lutheran Church

02:15:43.520 then you can claim that you are also true and it can go to the also true or failing it

02:15:50.480 A lot of people who don't want to support Christianity will go that route as a celebration of culture, perhaps,

02:16:01.360 but also because they do various leftist things to where they solemnize gay marriages and things like that, unfortunately.

02:16:16.560 I will say this because I think it needs to be said.

02:16:20.480 Just this year, I wanted to honor the founder of the Ausatruer Felegith, Sveinbjorn Bientenson, with a day of remembrance as one of our Ausatru heroes.

02:16:34.900 He, and I believe some of his associates at the time, were devout and believed in our gods, believed in our faith, and were true to the Aesir, were Ausatru.

02:16:48.740 and i have heartfelt respect for for him and for that absolutely the folks that followed in in that

02:16:59.960 organization have taken in a very different direction but i very much believe that spain

02:17:07.100 bjorn was loyal to our gods one of the cool stories about him when he went before the

02:17:16.020 government officials to petition to have Al-Satru recognized as a legitimate recognized religion

02:17:25.520 in this country, in a place where there was very seldom was there thunder.

02:17:34.480 At the moment that he asked it to be recognized, and they kind of laughed him off,

02:17:39.560 Alcifor blessed him with cracks of thunder

02:17:44.940 And the sky opening in a thunderstorm

02:17:46.880 And that's very rare

02:17:49.640 And I think that was miraculous happening

02:17:52.480 So I have a lot of respect for Sven Bjorn

02:17:57.720 But that being said

02:18:00.920 I think those who have taken up the mantle after him

02:18:04.120 Have not been sincere

02:18:07.120 Or not sincerely Alcifor

02:18:08.700 And unfortunately, I know that we've all, I say we've all, a lot of us have heard, man, when was that? 2010, I think?

02:18:21.300 There was going to be this Ausatru Temple in Reykjavik.

02:18:26.980 And it's like they broke ground and they started.

02:18:30.900 This project's at least 10 years old and it's not done yet, to my understanding.

02:18:35.400 but i know that was hope to a lot of people and i know when people google it it sounds very exciting

02:18:42.200 but i think that's become much more of a quote-unquote other category to check for religion

02:18:48.980 in iceland than it is a legitimate church devoted to our gods and i hope that changes i really

02:18:56.980 I say this, and it's, we are stronger when we are together.

02:19:09.560 I am opposed to all the randoms that try to do their own thing and don't want to be part of the AFA.

02:19:17.280 For the reason of, we are better when we are together for our gods.

02:19:23.540 The more we separate, the more we become irrelevant.

02:19:29.440 But in Iceland, in other countries, the equation is really different.

02:19:35.160 I honestly, I hope, I hope from the bottom of my heart that the Austrofelligeth chooses to go a religious route and to re-embrace the sincere worship of our gods.

02:19:51.960 I would love for that to happen. I don't see that happening right now, but their number has

02:19:58.420 grown to a really significant percentage of Icelanders. Unfortunately, I think it's like

02:20:03.560 checking other and it's kind of a atheism with fun bells and whistles. I would love it to be

02:20:13.160 more than that one day. And I hope that it is. I would love to visit their temple and celebrate

02:20:18.340 with them and embrace them if that's the case one day. And I hope it is. That's my understanding of

02:20:25.640 it as it is now. And I don't know if Svan has a need to add on that. Not particularly. I think

02:20:34.600 that, and again, this kind of, I'm tying in even my joking about Kwanzaa in relation to the 0.81

02:20:40.440 It's pretty clear that even in Iceland, where Icelanders are the people of Iceland, they have a great and innate fear to couple ethnic identity with religious, you know, spiritual growth.

02:20:59.140 uh whether it's you know just it's indoctrinated upon them it's it's held and loomed over their

02:21:04.620 heads don't you know they they have a great amount of fear of not wanting to be uh you know

02:21:10.820 associated or with any sort of uh again what would be naturally lauded as ethnic identity

02:21:19.380 is held immediately to the icelanders as hateful and bigotry or what have you um even to the point

02:21:26.720 were i remember they were doing a sun wheel um stone uh circle and uh it looked too much like

02:21:34.960 a fifa or a or a sun i mean a solar sun wheel or a um swastika and so they had to change it

02:21:44.240 um whereas you know like with uh kwanzaa and african-american um pan-africanism and the idea

02:21:54.240 that's almost immediately you know celebrated um and uh even brought right into educational systems

02:22:02.160 and you know just oh no it is absolutely a legitimate holiday that's practiced by a lot of

02:22:07.440 of uh american black people and and it's just instantly kind of you know set up on a pedestal

02:22:15.040 without you know the considerations that it was originally started by you know black

02:22:19.680 nationalists that were um you know again doing much of what we're trying to do uh you know

02:22:27.360 reconnect to their roots and create a kind of pan-african understanding like we're we are a

02:22:33.440 pan-european or pan-arian um understanding of things but the difference is clearly uh you know

02:22:41.280 seen in in a lot of those ways where one is um pushed and and lauded uh even though it its roots

02:22:49.440 are heavily based off of separatism or communal nationalism or racial nationalism, and others

02:22:58.560 aren't. So the Icelanders feel that very, very much so. Plus, on top of this, Scandinavians just

02:23:05.760 in general have been lauded with a lot of secularism. I think that global socialistic

02:23:14.380 ideas are very part and parcel with the education system in scandinavian countries so it's a half

02:23:21.500 step towards identity but they don't want to step too far because they don't want to be called

02:23:26.780 something that would scare them in a way and so that's the bridge i think you're you're referencing

02:23:33.660 is i hope one day they can realize that having an ethnic identity in your own country in an island

02:23:40.060 where you are clearly a people not you know you know here's the here's the thing i'm not

02:23:48.300 and it's not even about that and i wish that it it'd be cool if it was um

02:23:58.860 and i think this is a source of misunderstanding for a lot of people

02:24:02.140 yes racial understanding and racial pride is an important part of usitry

02:24:10.460 it's not in and of itself usitry it's a prerequisite because it's an ethnic faith

02:24:18.100 i'm not i think that europeans um maybe icelanders more than others

02:24:28.720 handle this situation differently

02:24:32.080 because they live in,

02:24:37.160 if there's two people in town

02:24:40.820 that don't look like them,

02:24:42.360 they have overwhelming diversity.

02:24:45.420 It's not like they're

02:24:48.280 using public transportation

02:24:53.060 in Detroit or Philadelphia or something.

02:24:57.120 it's their what they view as diversity is really different than what we do and

02:25:04.000 and that's true wherever you are your reality is based on your norm versus what's different from

02:25:09.840 your norm i more i don't my issue with icelandic with the also true or failing it isn't so much

02:25:24.800 a lack of

02:25:26.320 folkishness

02:25:29.220 or racial awareness.

02:25:31.520 It's a lack of

02:25:33.300 sincere belief

02:25:35.140 in their gods.

02:25:38.140 And it was even mentioned by

02:25:40.520 their current

02:25:41.560 Asheryagothi.

02:25:45.000 They've intellectualized 1.00

02:25:46.920 the gods until they're not gods.

02:25:48.940 They're concepts, they're ideas,

02:25:50.960 they're philosophy, they're whatever

02:25:52.580 nonsense.

02:25:54.800 i long for a day where they worship the gods of their ancestors as gods

02:26:06.480 and we can build from there but that is the

02:26:14.080 that is the core of what makes one also true or not

02:26:19.920 Yes, Ausatru is inherently folkish, but we're going to mention race in the United States

02:26:32.980 much more because we are such a diverse nation than they're going to focus on it in a place

02:26:39.800 where it's not really as pressing of an issue, and I understand that.

02:26:43.700 but wherever we are whatever our circumstance even if we're in a completely homogenous society

02:26:52.340 also true is faith loyalty to the isere and for us to treat our gods as gods and worship them

02:27:04.540 and i hope that they get there someday i hope they get back there like i say i think that um

02:27:10.360 spainbjorn and his original guys that he was with were very pious and i'd love to see that

02:27:18.360 i'd love to see them get back to that um

02:27:25.480 that's a long answer for are there afa members in iceland

02:27:32.440 so that's what you get on the spawn and matt episodes um today this is from finn wraith he's

02:27:39.320 He's a long-time listener.

02:27:41.460 He knows that going in.

02:27:43.800 This one from Obsidian Skulls,

02:27:46.080 is a question specifically for you, Swan.

02:27:48.260 What is your idea about the origin of Thorin

02:27:53.860 and his father Thornyot,

02:27:58.680 mentioned as Jotun, maybe Hremthurs,

02:28:03.360 and also as a legendary king?

02:28:06.400 it's interesting to see giants in high regard and i know you talked about this a little bit but

02:28:13.600 you may want to like tighten down on that specifically for obsidian there well yeah i

02:28:20.940 again by the time it was written down it was written down in the western islands um and the

02:28:29.840 seafaring times. But, you know, it makes mention to Thori as a king in the great north. And

02:28:39.320 with most of the sagas, there's a lot of blurring between, you know, reality and

02:28:48.740 the meta, if you will. I don't know. I wonder often if, again, it's a poetic correlation to

02:28:57.580 the fact that he was far up in the north um and in a way the existence of um you know practices at

02:29:08.180 the time midwinter sacrifices and stuff like that couldn't really be stopped up there and i wonder

02:29:13.760 if that was seen as kind of like a testament to him being you know more than just something but

02:29:20.020 being older or keeping things older alive but i i know at the same time like

02:29:28.340 uh references to his daughters and son uh having names uh in relation to like ice or

02:29:37.700 sheet ice or snow um a lot of that correlation i don't know if that's just again perhaps

02:29:45.460 associating the very region or area with the king himself in kind of a way um

02:29:54.420 the uh the jotin being originated from a jotnar um again i made mention of the idea that like

02:30:03.300 and even in iceland they'll talk about people being troll-blooded or giant-blooded uh because

02:30:08.820 of their size or perhaps because of the the things that they're inclined towards um especially if he

02:30:14.740 was you know rejecting uh a lot of the christianization maybe that might have had some

02:30:20.740 some play in it um elves and trolls and giants are kind of lumped in on people who hold to the

02:30:28.660 old ways of things um or at least it was um um i'm trying to remember the jotun

02:30:37.940 the origins of the Jotun that he was supposedly descended from, and I can't quite remember.

02:30:49.520 I mean, and if we talk about Hrim Thursr, I would like to point out too, like there are Jotnar that

02:30:57.220 we see that descend from Ymir, or actually from Bergelmer. Bergelmer is from Ymir and

02:31:05.620 And Bergelmer's kin are the ones that descend from Ymir, the middle, whereas there are the Jotuns of the Utgard, the outer realm, and that outer realm is Niflheim or Niflhel or, of course, the great north, the misty north home.

02:31:26.060 And those Jotuns are always seen as certainly extra planar and of older origin than even Ymir, that the primordial forces of the cold and the heat, when we talk about the sons of Muspel and the Hrimthurser, we're talking about Jotunar, which Jotunar, for a better understanding, would just be, think of when you hear that name, like ancient ones.

02:31:52.380 um old ones ones from the primordial beginnings um the hrimthurser and the and the mus and the 0.92

02:32:02.000 muspeli um are older than the jotnar of the material and middle the the storming forces

02:32:09.420 the forces of the mountain and um and the things that tear things apart here they're even older

02:32:15.540 than that and so again i think that that connotation towards him may have been lended

02:32:21.040 for the fact that he was so far north in what would be finland now um i don't know i i guess i

02:32:29.840 and how it got all the way to the orkney isles that's a great question i don't know it again

02:32:37.200 it's just almost the same way as clearly the um the celebration of beowulf as a you know he's a

02:32:45.760 clearly he's a geet he's from the the lands that are now the you know the svidio or the sve are

02:32:52.160 the swedes um but it's talked about in denmark but it's written down and known to us because of

02:32:59.120 the english so there's clearly transference that could happen there um you know and what we would

02:33:06.320 see as like great distances but you know with boat travel and things like that you know it's uh it's

02:33:12.480 entirely possible but in relation to him being a jotnar um i don't know i think that i i wonder if

02:33:20.800 that's again connection to his his placement where he's at where he's from and ultimately

02:33:28.000 kind of his freestandingness if you will um

02:33:33.520 hmm i'm trying to think of other things i mean i i could try to look up his his uh the the

02:33:41.680 a descendancy of, I know that it comes from the Orkney sagas.

02:33:52.600 I forgot their names. It has Orkney in it. I know that much.

02:33:57.960 But again, you know, speaking on the origins of Thorri and Thorablot

02:34:04.840 and what it has become in relation to both Icelanders and to Ausatruir

02:34:10.140 or people who are of Ossetur or are loyal to the gods.

02:34:16.600 It has formulated itself into, again,

02:34:20.760 I think what it most likely was originally

02:34:23.120 was midwinter sacrifices to Thor.

02:34:29.740 Yeah.

02:34:31.780 Let's see.

02:34:33.320 Do we have, I'm trying to see questions beyond that one.

02:34:39.000 I have to go all the way back as I'm, I'm getting it from a small screen here.

02:34:44.960 It's fine. You're good. Can you hear me?

02:34:48.280 All right. I'm back. You timed that almost perfect.

02:34:56.000 When you're, when you're, when you're in on the pirate water,

02:35:00.120 sometimes you need to take a break here and there.

02:35:05.480 That being said,

02:35:06.840 all right this one is for me matt how many calories do you consume to stay fit and how

02:35:22.220 do you budget alcohol into your diet so

02:35:25.760 mental gymnastics and wishful thinking so what all right calorie wise

02:35:36.100 Let me check. Actually, I'll tell you exactly. Hold up one second.

02:35:46.220 I am one of those guys, and I don't necessarily think this is a good thing, but it's a thing.

02:35:56.360 So I keep all these windows open on my computer, lest I forget a website that I'm on.

02:36:06.100 So, I'm going to type in my equation right now. I do what's, I don't know, loosely called if it fits your macros. And that helps me to kind of keep it between the lines of what I'm trying to do.

02:36:34.160 so i again i count i can give you a calorie count it's about 2855 because i'm trying to

02:36:48.000 get less fat i'm at just under 20 body fat right now to my understanding i would like to get

02:36:58.400 it. Realistically at my age and my lifestyle and feasting and celebrating is so much of an

02:37:05.280 important part of what we do. I'd like to get slightly under 17. If I'm under 17, that'd make

02:37:12.640 me happy. So I'm trying to cut, but just a little bit right now. So I'm at 2,855 and that breaks

02:37:21.600 down to about 286 grams of protein, 214 grams of carbs, and 95 grams of fat.

02:37:33.160 As far as calories from alcohol, though, it's deceptive. And I say this, I'm not trying to

02:37:40.600 fool anybody. I get it. I don't. I'm aware that there's calories in alcohol that don't come from

02:37:51.020 macronutrients i don't drink a lot typically the only time during the week that i do drink

02:37:57.020 is during this show because it's fun and it's a celebration um when i have people over for one of

02:38:06.640 my i'll hear your gothic dinners which i love to do every month then i'll i'll drink something

02:38:12.020 fancy there but i don't drink daily or a lot so when i do i'm only really counting the

02:38:20.680 carbs involved in the alcohol and not the overall calories. So I think that does throw it off if

02:38:27.340 you're being very, very strict. Yeah, but that's what I do. And it's worked really good for me

02:38:39.220 if it fits your macros. I don't always make the progress I want, but if I'm screwing up,

02:38:45.080 I know that I'm screwing up, and it's me choosing to, so I can deal with that.

02:38:51.220 Something I wanted to mention, though, is Barry.

02:38:54.560 Barry donated $10.59.

02:38:57.660 That is an uneven number for donation, but I appreciate it very much, Barry.

02:39:04.120 Thank you.

02:39:05.200 I know we don't have a building yet, but all the same, Phrasehof, Besthof.

02:39:11.380 We'll see.

02:39:12.100 That's forecast out in the future.

02:39:13.620 those of you who may not be uh be familiar with our plans um okay so a couple of things and before

02:39:21.540 i mention it and just so i don't forget barry then followed up with twenty dollar donation

02:39:26.500 which makes it thirty dollars and uh 59 cents uh let's not keep this horn quiet blowing the victory

02:39:35.380 horn um thank you barry serious okay before everything else thank you we really do appreciate

02:39:42.420 your donation it means a lot and it's going to a big cost thank you um seriously though those

02:39:49.380 of you guys that aren't familiar as far as um our plans for phrase hoff so our next hoff

02:39:58.500 and we are committed to establishing our first 12 and i've expanded it now our first 14 hoffs

02:40:06.740 to a reckoning of our gods as is laid out in the gilthagening.

02:40:15.380 And Svon and I have talked about that,

02:40:17.160 but it lays out the gods in order that are said to be good for men to worship

02:40:25.840 or worthwhile for men to give worship to.

02:40:29.080 And so that's how we've got kind of a scheme there of the order in which we're doing our halves.

02:40:36.740 The next up is Freyshoff, is Lord Freyer.

02:40:41.560 That is going to be either in Eastern Ohio

02:40:49.340 or Western Pennsylvania.

02:40:53.080 And a couple of things need to happen

02:40:57.700 in order for that to become a reality.

02:41:00.880 And the purpose of this is we've figured out ways

02:41:06.560 to get the initial monies to make hoffs happen we can do that but the responsibility goes beyond

02:41:15.200 that it's not just getting off but it's maintaining off once we establish sacred space

02:41:24.320 once we establish a hoff to one of our gods it's a commitment and it's a commitment forever

02:41:32.000 for us to support and maintain and take care of that holy stead.

02:41:39.780 And so we need to budget accordingly

02:41:44.640 so we can responsibly take care of Hoffs once we get them.

02:41:49.140 Getting them is no longer the issue,

02:41:51.280 and it's really a blessing to be able to say that.

02:41:56.560 But getting them in a way that we can responsibly take care of them

02:42:01.580 is the that's the big challenge so the first thing that we need to do to get a hof for lord

02:42:09.480 frayer is to pay off his father's hof we need to pay off new york's hof we're down under 99 000

02:42:17.700 or i mean under 100 000 to 99 and change which seems like a lot and nick just threw up a graphic

02:42:27.320 thank you nick i appreciate that but look at all that green we're well over 60 percent of the way

02:42:33.880 done with that and that's just a little bit over a year in so and i mean this is on a i think a 10

02:42:41.160 year note so we're doing extremely well but the faster we pay that off the faster we get a half

02:42:49.400 for lord frayer uh we've got to do that we've got to make sure that our money's coming in every month

02:42:58.840 are let me tell you i can tell you exactly those need to be 7.6 better than they are right now

02:43:11.160 and so that will come naturally due to growth or if we get folks that are donating

02:43:17.400 more at a higher level but that's what we're looking at in order to get our fifth half

02:43:23.400 and that's phrase off so yeah just a little check in on where we're at on that

02:43:36.600 okay so from michael cosgrove have you ever got your cold weather badge in boy scouts and what

02:43:47.400 something did in particular earn it i yes i did i was a boy scout i was i made it to star i believe

02:43:58.520 what i did to earn it i don't know because i was up in alaska so so many of the things

02:44:06.260 that we did were cold weather i know we learned how to fashion igloos to overnight in

02:44:14.060 um we did a whole lot of cold weather camping at the time I don't remember what specific

02:44:25.040 feat or checkpoint earned that badge but we were in you know sub-zero certainly sub-freezing sub 32

02:44:36.620 weather all the time exactly what we were able to do to get the badge I

02:44:43.820 really don't recall but I remember I remember a lot of winter winter camping

02:44:50.060 in Boy Scouts up in Alaska and that's about when you actually had to be a boy

02:44:58.040 to be in Boy Scouts and before a lot of the the drama that unfortunately has

02:45:03.140 taken hold of scouting in the last couple decades. I'm just trying to catch up a little

02:45:11.880 bit on the chat on the side. All right. Question from Robert E. Boy Lee. How much do I have

02:45:24.540 to donate for Matt to take a shot of Mallort? I've never heard of Mallort, so I had to Google

02:45:32.200 it while swan was giving one of his answers uh earlier um a fine question indeed so the first

02:45:43.400 step would be you have to donate a bottle of mallort to the fleville household because

02:45:50.200 i think it's a hard get my understanding from googling it real quick is

02:45:55.000 you can get it in chicago but other parts of the united states are very hard to find it

02:46:05.560 if it was in front of me right now i don't know just because i'm trying to raise money for the afa

02:46:14.680 20 bucks and i'd take a shot easily

02:46:17.160 if you dared me and we weren't on the air i'd take a shot of it for free uh trouble is i'm

02:46:26.200 not going to buy a bottle of it to take a shot of it on the air because that's just not economically

02:46:31.160 feasible and it sounds like it's gross and not enjoyable um but yeah absolutely do it um pony up

02:46:39.000 some some mallort and some ducats and i will gladly shoot that for you uh looking over at the

02:46:46.840 chat uh the afa is on track to pay off four mortgages in less than 10 years

02:46:55.720 that amount alone probably enough to build a hof in land the icelandic church has

02:47:00.360 certainly it would be just so everybody knows we are only carrying one of those mortgages

02:47:05.640 we've paid off odin's off we paid off thor's hof we did not take out any loan

02:47:11.640 on baldursoff we paid baldursoff out of pocket uh niorzhoff being in very desirable land in florida

02:47:19.480 we did have to take out a little bit of a loan on but we're i'd have to run the math but we're like

02:47:27.320 63 percent paid off of that within a little bit over a year so we're doing very very well at it um

02:47:37.560 um uh so michael from new york says don't count calories count calories man just count the grand

02:47:46.380 of protein so i did that for a long time if you guys are able to find it if you look on

02:47:53.040 our youtube channel and you start looking at midsummer like 2010 2011 2012 you will see a

02:48:03.060 very fat version of myself, because at that point in time, I was only interested in getting

02:48:09.740 that protein number where I needed it, and I did. I got the protein number where I needed it.

02:48:16.760 The carb and fat number was also higher than I would have liked it, so I was a

02:48:21.240 much larger version of myself and not in a good way.

02:48:33.060 All right.

02:48:36.620 What are your thoughts?

02:48:41.120 I feel like there was a question earlier than this, and I don't want to ignore it.

02:48:45.040 So hold on.

02:48:45.540 Let me go back and find it.

02:48:48.040 Because it was an important question.

02:48:53.480 Okay.

02:48:56.140 All right.

02:48:56.860 So I'm sorry I skipped over this earlier.

02:48:59.420 Monk, I'm not sure if you're around.

02:49:01.260 If not, I hope you check it out on the replay version.

02:49:06.620 How do you change your luck when your world is upside down,

02:49:11.760 even though you live with honor and do what's wrote?

02:49:20.360 And I'm not sure if that's a typo or what he meant.

02:49:26.640 Svon, do you have any thoughts on how one changes their luck

02:49:30.360 when their world is turned upside down?

02:49:37.480 I would say there are probably three roads

02:49:43.920 that you have to travel in order to kind of

02:49:47.360 start building back anew.

02:49:50.120 First one, of course, is I would say

02:49:54.980 getting right with your folk and the gods.

02:49:59.820 And that involves, again, building that relationship, building your troth, and getting back to the foundations of the spiritual framework of your people.

02:50:11.460 Secondly, is absolutely to clear any grievances and get right with your ancestors, if you will, and spiritually reach out to them and clear things out from the past.

02:50:29.980 um the last part is really again is the abidement of uh corrective action and you have to understand

02:50:39.900 that sometimes the weird that you have perhaps woven or was woven around you some of it is even

02:50:46.300 again given to you at birth and you have to bear some of that and those the repercussions of all

02:50:53.760 that that's woven together um with a continuance of just pushing the correct action you can

02:51:02.400 slowly turn your luck um some people i think feel that it's uh you know it's not possible

02:51:09.760 or or they they get dark and in their in the doldrums of it and in reality i think that's

02:51:15.440 part of like the personal deeds of it is that you have to it really starts with your your mindset um

02:51:21.760 Um, are you, you know, and I mean, real deep introspective look at yourself, um, you know,

02:51:29.060 are, are you doing things that cultivate, um, a turning around of your life? Um, are you

02:51:37.240 getting rid of things that hold you back? And I, you know, these are personal things that you

02:51:42.180 might know or not know, or, uh, some things that you might be even trying to reject, you know,

02:51:48.180 if there are things holding you back or keeping you hindered and you're refusing to let them go

02:51:53.920 oftentimes those are great sources of woe in your life you could be right with the gods and right

02:52:00.860 with your ancestors but refusing to see or do certain things that you might not either be aware

02:52:08.140 of or you are aware of but just refuse to give them the countenance that they have in your life

02:52:12.400 And so that deep introspection on what those things might be is highly personal. But I believe that by disciplining yourself away from the things that detract you, whether it's perhaps people that you're hanging out with and they're not they're not good and they kind of garner a lot of foul luck upon them for their deeds.

02:52:38.260 and you're in proximity with them, um, or perhaps doing deeds with them or, or things of that

02:52:43.600 nature. Um, whether it's perhaps personal vices or, um, decisions that you make, um, you really

02:52:51.180 have to kind of pull back and start create that line that you can pull back from and start to

02:52:59.060 reassess what is going on. Are you, um, holding on to things in the past? Are you, um,

02:53:07.160 not allowing yourself to grow or expand or perhaps leave things behind. Sometimes it does

02:53:16.620 require us to look at that. And I believe that the gods and our ancestors do guide us in directions

02:53:23.320 towards our best. I think that they want the best for us in relation to the ideas that they

02:53:30.700 want us to succeed, or they want us to be able to prove themselves, prove ourselves to them.

02:53:36.100 And, um, you know, I, that part there is kind of a, are you doing everything? And of course people, most people will say, yes, I'm doing everything. I'm trying really hard. And again, it's, there's something there that I think is perhaps being missed or is worth looking.

02:53:59.840 And even if you don't find it, the actions you take towards fixing things in your life will always garner better things.

02:54:09.320 It just requires you to really look at yourself and what you're doing and the deeds that you have, perhaps, or the deeds that have come before you.

02:54:17.540 And you need to either make them right, separate from them.

02:54:22.060 Again, sometimes the deeds of others and you just being connected to them can sometimes cause great harm.

02:54:28.560 that could, you know, require you to step away or to not be involved or what have you,

02:54:36.080 or perhaps even bridge the gaps and make amends or stop things from causing that discord in your

02:54:46.080 life or your family's life or what have you. That's a tough question because it involves a lot

02:54:52.220 of personal map making on yourself. Because beyond, you know, holding trough and loyalty to

02:55:02.820 the gods, the gods still don't alleviate us of our problems. They don't alleviate us from suffering

02:55:10.560 or from, you know, challenges. I wouldn't even say suffering. It's, again, that it's more of

02:55:18.780 challenges whether or not again how you take those things in and you know um rise from them

02:55:29.580 i do believe that you can turn your luck and build your haminkia and um

02:55:37.260 change your luck and it starts first and foremost with yourself the the ancestors and the gods

02:55:43.820 those are good things like good points to go towards but they're in lieu of re re-examining

02:55:50.700 yourself constantly and trying to find the source of that which might be dragging you down

02:56:00.300 so i don't see you in the chat room right now book um and if you don't hear this i

02:56:09.660 I will talk to you about it next time I see you.

02:56:13.560 I hope that I see you at Yule at Odenshof.

02:56:17.720 And whether I do or I don't, 0.92

02:56:19.580 I hope you come over and eat the face of a pig with me 0.99

02:56:24.120 on the 23rd. 0.99

02:56:27.080 Yes, Svon, I have two pig's heads

02:56:30.500 I've got to pick up on Friday

02:56:32.940 being held for me by a local butcher.

02:56:35.460 Are you doing one on the 23rd?

02:56:36.440 Side note.

02:56:37.280 what's up are you doing one on the 23rd and like another one later on or

02:56:44.400 negative i'm having people at my house on the 23rd so i wanted to have enough pig face to feed

02:56:51.140 the attendees so i'm going to cook two pig faces in my oven i'm going to hope it holds the two

02:56:59.140 pig faces we're going to make it hold the two pig faces regardless you might have to do it

02:57:04.260 we're going to eat we're going to know because they're slow they're slow cooked according to

02:57:10.340 youtube so i'm going to slow cook two pig faces and they're going to be amazing i'm excited um

02:57:17.460 so i can only fit one in my oven so

02:57:19.860 well i'm i'm going to rise to the occasion and even if i've got to burn parts of the pig face

02:57:28.000 I'm going to cram them in that oven. I live in Reno, Nevada. We have quite a bit of Hispanics 0.96

02:57:37.600 in our area. We've got a lot of carnicerias. The Mexicans so far have been very offended when I 1.00

02:57:48.380 asked for pig faces. And I said, hey, do you have pig heads and two different carnicerias 1.00

02:57:54.460 hung up on me. So fine. I went to a gringo butcher and they were cool. They ordered me 0.96

02:58:02.360 two pig heads immediately and I go pick them up on Friday. Wow. That said, this is, I joke,

02:58:09.440 this is a really serious question. And Monk, I know you've been through some stuff. So

02:58:15.740 So this is the honest answer.

02:58:23.880 And unfortunately, it requires you to be in a bad, to experience negative things to realize it.

02:58:32.500 you have an opportunity when the world the more you are surrounded by chaos and by

02:58:45.420 bad things and bad circumstance the greater the value of your right action

02:58:52.900 talking about changing your luck and some of this you may not see or you may not recognize

02:59:02.320 eyes building a spiritual awareness and an eye to see it is an art in and of itself when you're in

02:59:14.480 the middle of misery it's hard to see the opportunities that open up before you or to

02:59:25.220 see the change in your luck. But when someone is blessed by being in a great circumstance,

02:59:33.680 they're surrounded by amazing people all doing the right thing in a culture of righteous action

02:59:41.520 and in a golden age. Their act of doing the right thing is expected. It's common sense. It's what

02:59:52.500 everybody else is doing it's one more you know drop in the bucket

02:59:57.180 but when you're in a desert of messed up things and bad actors of chaos and of

03:00:09.820 negative circumstance you rising above that to do right action when there's no right action around

03:00:19.600 you makes your right action the standard for right action it elevates your

03:00:32.720 what in a perfect circumstance would be the norm in a degenerated world in the wolf age 0.98

03:00:38.960 and the kali yuga you doing the right thing makes you a hero it propels 0.93

03:00:46.160 your action to be of much greater value than it would be where that was socially reinforced.

03:00:54.000 If you're the only one doing the right thing, you are the standard bearer and a light has

03:01:01.040 shined on you. A divine light has shined upon you in a place of darkness. And that is heroic

03:01:10.200 and it's noteworthy

03:01:12.660 and not just

03:01:14.940 is it remarkable

03:01:16.780 by talking heads on YouTube

03:01:18.840 but it's

03:01:21.100 noticeable to our gods

03:01:22.900 and it's noticeable

03:01:25.120 to your ancestors

03:01:26.280 doing the right thing

03:01:30.660 and being a man of honor and integrity

03:01:33.000 when you are surrounded

03:01:34.760 by chaos and by 0.75

03:01:36.840 blackness and by

03:01:38.340 wrongdoing 0.61

03:01:40.080 makes you conspicuous for your behavior it makes you conspicuous in your gallantry

03:01:51.260 to use military parlance it shines a light on your action as being exemplary that changes your luck

03:02:03.380 It changes not only your luck, but the oar log that you leave for those who follow in your footsteps.

03:02:12.620 Be they genetically following you, or be they following you in spirit, or be they inspired by you.

03:02:20.280 It lays down a layer of tested purity.

03:02:29.440 there's a difference in value when something is untested and unopposed versus something that has

03:02:39.300 been opposed fought against and has triumphed over the chaos you have the opportunity to create that

03:02:48.420 you have the opportunity every day when you wake up in hell in the christian sense

03:02:55.660 you have the opportunity to build a beachhead of order amongst the chaos to build a golden age

03:03:07.240 within the wolf age that surrounds you and that shines like a bright light to our gods 0.82

03:03:14.180 to our ancestors and to the Nornir. 0.55

03:03:18.140 They see that.

03:03:22.780 It's easy to be good in a land of greatness.

03:03:30.300 It is much harder to be good in a kingdom of chaos.

03:03:36.920 You doing that means a lot.

03:03:41.100 The thing is, when you're surrounded by that,

03:03:43.520 you may not see it, but the gods see it. The ancestors see it. Your peers, and I don't mean

03:03:56.100 your peers in the chaos that you're in, but the rest of us in your AFA family see it, and it

03:04:04.520 matters. So what you need to disassociate yourself with is whether or not you see it.

03:04:13.520 because you are not a reliable source

03:04:22.360 of analyzing that information.

03:04:24.760 You're in the middle of,

03:04:27.700 and I try to watch my cursing one here,

03:04:29.820 and I don't think I've cursed on here.

03:04:33.380 Githya Erikson cursed on here.

03:04:35.140 That was the first curse on here. 0.99

03:04:36.460 So when you're in the crap, 0.98

03:04:41.920 you may not see it but look at how it appears to those of us who are objective 0.99

03:04:51.020 you're subjective you're in the middle of a crisis if you really have all this chaos around

03:04:57.800 you you can't see it because you're in survival mode but look outside to how the rest of us see it

03:05:05.500 And I say this specifically because of the amount that I know you

03:05:15.200 and the little bit that I know you.

03:05:19.880 It shines, and it shines the more so because of the darkness that you're in.

03:05:27.460 if i see that with my human perception that's faulty and frail and imperfect how much more

03:05:41.500 so do our gods see that from their um from their glory they see that you are changing your luck

03:05:51.920 daily by living with honor and doing right action whether you see it or you don't see it

03:05:58.880 the luck changes now a second a caveat to that second part to it

03:06:04.880 so it's not just about changing your luck it's about first changing your luck through right

03:06:16.560 action. Okay. But then it's about being able to recognize the manifestation of that luck.

03:06:31.680 Because so often luck doesn't just happen with, you know, riches and glory and stuff

03:06:41.300 thrown at you luck in my experience my understanding is much more a attracting

03:06:52.660 of synchronicity and an attracting of circumstance towards you

03:07:00.580 seeing with an eye of discernment to where you can see opportunity when it's presented to you

03:07:08.180 you that's the second key you can have all the luck in the world but if you're focused on self

03:07:16.400 you're focused on misery you're focused on depression if you're focused if you're looking

03:07:22.400 down you can't see all of the upward luck that's coming at you you're looking at the ground

03:07:31.340 the ability to hold your head up and see the opportunity coming at you and capitalizing on

03:07:38.720 That's the second half of it.

03:07:40.980 And it's extremely important.

03:07:43.980 And it's very hard to do when you're weighed down by your circumstance.

03:07:50.880 And I'm not just preaching at you.

03:07:53.100 I'm preaching at all of us.

03:07:54.320 I'm preaching at myself.

03:07:56.920 To be able to hold your head up and look at the positive and to see the opportunities that come your way because of your luck.

03:08:04.660 that's at least 50% of the struggle, if not more.

03:08:12.360 That's what I would say towards that.

03:08:23.680 Okay, so the next one, and I, it's what it is.

03:08:29.080 I apologize, but not really.

03:08:31.240 we're talking about important things but so often we answer these questions a very long time after

03:08:37.480 they're asked so i hope that the folks that at that are asking the questions get the answer

03:08:45.400 if not i hope it's beneficial for those who didn't ask them either way uh what are your thoughts on

03:08:53.640 fear as it relates to the afterlife should we fear the afterlife should we fear the wrath of

03:09:02.440 the gods and their judgment this is a topic that was brought up on dave martel's podcast

03:09:10.360 where he claims that the idea of damnation is not a christian concept but a concept

03:09:16.040 in all religions and that uh knife of hell is a very real reality for those who are wicked

03:09:25.880 didn't act nobly or are simply not seen as worthy in the eyes of the gods

03:09:31.480 what are your thoughts on this that's fine go ahead and take a swing at this first please

03:09:36.280 Sure. Absolutely. I think first and foremost, the concept of being perhaps doomed or marked by the gods is clearly there.

03:09:49.700 I think that Dave Martell is probably coming at it for more of a, I think, a concept that is not correct in the sense that there's a small group of people that think that perhaps you're going to be judged in the afterlife, in the underworld, by the gods, in a court-like system in which your Filchia is kind of like a lawyer.

03:10:19.700 or, you know, a presiding tell of this.

03:10:24.620 And I think that that's greatly miscued.

03:10:31.100 The gods meet out the doom of men is what it's mentioned as.

03:10:35.660 And that doom of man is your destiny.

03:10:38.960 It is a combination of good and bad.

03:10:42.300 Just the word is translated into doom.

03:10:44.620 Um, and I believe that the gods do watch us and that we should concern ourselves with how they regard us.

03:10:53.680 I do not think that they are like, uh, perhaps like an Egyptian thing where they're, they're, you know, waiting for this moment to, you know, meet you in the underworld and, and, you know, weigh your deeds of your filth and so on and so forth.

03:11:08.160 because I think that greatly takes away from the way our ancestors felt about acceptance by our ancestors.

03:11:15.560 And that death and the underworld in great relation to Arian overall concepts

03:11:23.700 is that the underworld and death itself is unwhole, if you will. 0.93

03:11:29.060 And I use the word unholy, but in the sense it is unwhole, that the wholeness,

03:11:34.400 The gods are wholeness. Mankind seeks wholeness. And when we are unwhole or unwell and things break apart, that is reserved for the place away from time.

03:11:46.900 And we see this in relation to lots of Aryan stories about certain divine heroes or the gods themselves, in particular the striker, and not stepping foot into the underworld, not stepping foot into that which is far away from the gods and unhold.

03:12:06.860 I think that there is a great mistranslation that's leading him to this.

03:12:12.560 And that's where he's coming from, from a lore-based sense.

03:12:15.900 The other thing, though, there is a secondary motivation there, and I think this motivation is somewhat correct, is that in this modern age, Ausatru, or particular, let's just say pagans or people of, like, either whether they're returning to it as an ethnic faith or perhaps they're, you know, the kind of people that we talk about a lot,

03:12:43.040 the fly-by-night pagans, if you will. They're trying to initiate the conversation that there

03:12:54.880 is a moral spectrum. The problem is that, of course, they framed it incorrectly. The idea

03:13:01.300 is that the gods do mark us. We want to be witnessed. We want our deeds to be noticed.

03:13:07.260 The gods don't notice every individual. They're not, again, weighing our hearts on the scales

03:13:12.420 kind of thing. But they are noticing all of our overall weird that is being woven. They're

03:13:20.880 noticing this through the well that is in heaven at the base of the tree. And they're looking into

03:13:26.920 this well and seeing us and marking us for glory or marking us for detriment can oftentimes be

03:13:33.520 switched based on need. We see this clearly over and over again with Odin choosing champions at

03:13:40.240 the times often you know in most heated of battles in a in a uh searching for victory

03:13:46.460 and then they're there they see ovin and he breaks their weapon and takes them at this point

03:13:53.040 um again the gods do notice us and they do mark our deeds and weave us towards

03:13:58.420 real and woe based on their machinations their choosings and the way that they interact with

03:14:07.140 the middle world but there is another group that is also watching us and those are our ancestors

03:14:15.380 we want our ancestors to see our deeds and how they see us is more or less i think

03:14:22.900 their connection to us that ultimately we are flowing to them and so if we dishonor them

03:14:32.340 them, they enact a barring because the threshold between us and them is death itself. Helheim

03:14:43.620 and the bridge over Helheim and Mothguth are clearly elements about, and Garm, about death

03:14:53.380 and the non-return and the barring from our ancestors. And it is there that it's determined

03:15:00.440 by this battle strength, Mavgud, that you are directed to descend down and over the river Gjöl,

03:15:10.340 which is the river of screams and crying out, and over the river Sleev, and you end up in Naustrand.

03:15:19.200 Now, Helheim is said to be at the edge of Niflheim or Niflhel, the misty place,

03:15:26.440 um and or the misty home or the misty place of the realm of shade and death and clearly the

03:15:34.000 the rivers that are associated with this place are primordial and the names are all extremely

03:15:39.340 heavily connected to the to death what exudes from hellheim is the source of what i call the 0.95

03:15:47.960 calamity of of the folk is the things that make things unwhole the breaking down but it's controlled 0.91

03:15:55.640 and it's with purpose the inevitable breaking down of all things and so when we break down

03:16:02.460 in our deaths and uh we seek to reconnect to our folk soul we can be barred by them as well

03:16:10.180 especially if we've been marked by the gods as unworthy or what really the word would be like

03:16:16.400 a need or a needling a needling a person who is uh and this is clearly a word that was used in

03:16:24.280 in, uh, old Nordic society. The idea of a needling is a person who has committed egregious acts

03:16:32.500 against, uh, perhaps cultural norms, um, legalities, uh, marriages, which are, I guess would be

03:16:41.900 legalities, um, and, or, uh, great, you know, like overall natural laws that are, you know,

03:16:48.720 not to be broken. And I think that it creates this three system, again, the upper, middle,

03:16:56.340 and lower is that we should seek to be noble amongst our folk. We should seek to be witnessed

03:17:04.980 by the gods and that we are marked with blessing and boon, not woe and dishonor. So we should be

03:17:13.700 concerned with that and that we are not barred away by our ancestors and forced to cross over

03:17:20.520 the rivers that lead to us losing who we are and ending up on the other side of those banks

03:17:28.380 where, you know, all manner of foul and shaded beasts and serpents reside. And I think that

03:17:36.800 that's pretty clear in our stories. I just think that he's got it a bit wrong and he's trying to

03:17:41.720 facilitate a translational point of view. But it's important that we don't get into the idea that

03:17:51.240 our religion doesn't have a moral framework. I would argue that it greatly does in all three

03:18:00.500 levels. And it's very important that we concern ourselves with them in order to make sure that we

03:18:06.620 are not seen as oath breakers, that we are not seen as people who, um, you know, turn on our

03:18:12.220 brothers and, and so on and so, so forth. So being a needlinger, um, is, you know, I think a concern

03:18:19.540 that we should have. And it's every Aryan group has definitive views of this, whether it's like 1.00

03:18:27.680 a caste system and the idea that you've been marked and that you will descend or you will 0.72

03:18:32.140 ascend based on your marking being good, or that you somehow are cursed to reside in a place or

03:18:40.500 be a ghost that haunts a place of their folly. I think that he's ultimately trying to say that

03:18:50.320 modern practitioners of these kind of paganist ideas, whether it's Wicca or whatever, that

03:19:00.800 they're gravitating to it with a sense that there is no moral compunction of judgment but in lieu

03:19:07.760 of that they have replaced uh the judgment of yahweh to like the gods holding council in the

03:19:13.860 underworld and there's a court and things like that i think that's greatly misplaced but the

03:19:20.520 gods are watching and they do mark people for greatness that's all right oh lord so first

03:19:30.300 I want to address

03:19:32.100 desert judgment, 0.87

03:19:38.180 at least Christian judgment.

03:19:42.280 We're told

03:19:43.640 in the Bible

03:19:45.140 that

03:19:48.280 Jesus

03:19:52.020 is the way,

03:19:54.000 truth, and the light.

03:19:56.360 There's no way unto the Father

03:19:58.160 but through Him.

03:20:00.300 And that man is saved by faith alone and not by works that none might boast.

03:20:09.700 So there's talk of heavenly judgment.

03:20:15.800 But in a biblical understanding of Christianity, it's not linked to your behavior.

03:20:22.700 If you repent and you have faith in Jesus, then you're good.

03:20:29.940 You're judged righteous. You get to approach the throne of Yahweh in heaven. It's all good. Your judgment is based on how effectively you give praise and worship to Yahweh, not based upon the rightness or wrongness of your action, not based upon your deeds.

03:20:56.300 It's one of the fundamentals that affected my change.

03:21:05.020 And this is important to note.

03:21:06.340 I didn't go from Jehovah's Witnessism to Ossetree. 0.50

03:21:11.280 I did. 0.91

03:21:12.420 It was a very fast movement, but it wasn't linear. 0.73

03:21:17.740 It was being a Jehovah's Witness, rejecting that, rejecting Christianity, having nothingness, but being a person that believed in something more than re-embracing the folk faith of my ancestors. 0.66

03:21:38.660 but it wasn't there was no point in time where i was doing a comparison between house the true

03:21:46.980 and christianity i was comparing christianity to itself and to rightness or wrongness and

03:21:53.820 rejecting it of its own merits and then looking at what remained what were options

03:22:01.740 and embracing one that was the ancestral faith of my folk and that was right.

03:22:11.880 And I think the fundamental comes in in a couple of ways.

03:22:16.420 So, behavior is right or wrong, regardless of your sycopanthy towards deity or not.

03:22:32.500 I am all for worship, and I understand that we are much less than our gods,

03:22:42.900 and we ought to give them worship and worship them as gods, certainly.

03:22:50.560 But that's not the basis of our right and our wrong.

03:22:55.440 One of the things that I think was very useful to me in my mind

03:23:00.960 was how often that Christianity compares their God to a father.

03:23:07.940 so how would you treat your children

03:23:13.920 aubrey isn't more right or more wrong based on how much she's deferential to me as her father

03:23:26.920 her behavior is either right or wrong and when she does good things i'm proud of her

03:23:34.380 and I'm super proud of her all the time because she does all kind of good things

03:23:41.520 but if she were to do hateful or mean-spirited or unjust things those things would cause me shame 0.88

03:23:50.720 and I would judge her according to that and try to get her to change the action

03:23:59.140 The action isn't, the rightness or wrongness isn't fixed on how much she, like, cuddles up to me and is deferential to me as her dad.

03:24:11.420 No, it's either right or it's wrong based on its circumstance.

03:24:18.760 Our gods, the original question is kind of strange.

03:24:24.400 No, we shouldn't fear the afterlife in and of itself. 0.92

03:24:34.020 If you are a dirtbag, if you are a bad person, then yes, you should fear the afterlife.

03:24:43.100 Not because you're scared of punishment, but because we want our gods to be proud of us. 0.98

03:24:54.400 In contrast to Christianity, we are saved by works that all might boast.

03:25:04.360 We want our gods to be proud of us and to celebrate us as heroes and their favored sons and daughters that have accomplished great things. 0.95

03:25:16.920 We want them to take pride in us.

03:25:20.300 And this is two levels, like Svon said.

03:25:23.020 we want our gods to be proud of us certainly we also want our ancestors to be proud of us and to

03:25:31.140 welcome us at their tables to welcome us in their halls we um a common refrain in house of truth

03:25:39.580 when someone passes is that you know may they be welcomed by their ancestors

03:25:45.160 we want our ancestors to with open arms welcome us in to be with them

03:25:54.020 if they shut us out like nah he's not one of ours like i don't know that guy i've never seen

03:26:02.140 him before in my life i don't know we don't want them to not want to associate with us

03:26:08.920 and this is fundamental to the right mindset it was a mindset of our ancestors certainly

03:26:17.020 the greatest punishment to our ancestors wasn't some form of torture or some form of of execution

03:26:29.080 the greatest punishment was them turning their backs on you and you being an outlaw which you

03:26:36.480 were outside of the frith that connected your tribe and your people you were an outsider

03:26:44.660 there's us and there's them and now you're one of them that was the biggest

03:26:51.420 you know thing our ancestors were afraid of

03:26:55.800 and it goes back in tacitus we read in tacitus how criminals were punished amongst the germanic

03:27:05.360 tribes there were certain crimes to where you were hung in a public display of like don't do

03:27:11.600 this this guy did bad that's one level of shame but a whole different level of shame 0.99

03:27:19.760 and they mentioned this for cowards and for homosexuals they were stomped down into the bog 0.99

03:27:28.400 because no one wanted to think about them again. 0.99

03:27:36.200 They wanted to be out of sight and out of mind

03:27:38.900 because the concept of their existence

03:27:41.120 was so shameful and disgusting to our ancestors.

03:27:46.500 We didn't want to think about them

03:27:48.500 and just pretend that wasn't a thing.

03:27:51.720 Whereas, I believe, what was it? 0.99

03:27:58.400 Like shirkers and murderers and other things were hung. 0.99

03:28:04.560 But cowardice was so just fundamentally shameful, we didn't want any visible reminder of it.

03:28:15.640 It had to be put away so we didn't look at it.

03:28:21.360 There's absolutely judgment.

03:28:23.780 the judgment is based upon noble or ignoble behavior

03:28:29.220 and we want first for our ancestors to recognize us as one of theirs and to welcome us in

03:28:42.460 from there we want the gods to be proud of us

03:28:48.480 to a level that they might grab us by the hand

03:28:52.240 and pull us up to something better than we were.

03:28:56.520 And that raises the status of our clan in general,

03:29:01.140 of our ancestors,

03:29:03.340 if one of theirs is celebrated.

03:29:08.640 And we see this as above, so below.

03:29:12.680 We see this with families,

03:29:14.620 Because a family that may not be rich or famous or celebrated in their land, if one of their sons or one of their daughters does something great to where they're celebrated in a bigger way by a king, by a president, by a mayor, by someone, it lifts them all up because they share in the pride they have for one of theirs doing good.

03:29:44.620 So, should we live in fear of judgment?

03:29:50.960 No, we should bust our butts to earn glory and to be great.

03:29:58.260 Sitting around being scared for doing something bad is a waste of time.

03:30:05.700 But there is absolutely judgment.

03:30:08.700 Our gods judge us.

03:30:10.500 Our ancestors judge us.

03:30:12.400 even if you take the afterlife out of the equation our folk judge us our peers judge us

03:30:21.780 we judge each other because we are our deeds you win fame or if you are

03:30:32.980 suitably vile, you win

03:30:37.060 infamy. So there is a sorting

03:30:41.180 out of the dead to either something

03:30:44.160 nice and pleasant, going back to their ancestors,

03:30:49.620 something of elevation and ascension, of you

03:30:53.040 becoming more than you are, because you've

03:30:55.160 transcended your condition as a person, you've become something

03:31:01.020 more and the gods bring you up a level. Or, you've become such a dirtbag and such a cause for shame 0.99

03:31:10.940 that you go to the strand and you have serpents dripping venom on you. 0.98

03:31:18.880 That is a poetic reference for you being dissolved into nothingness. 0.97

03:31:27.760 your personality who you are your you-ness is so abhorrent that it needs to be broken down and sold

03:31:38.420 for parts so that the energy that was you can go back into us making something better 0.99

03:31:46.800 because you were such a disgrace should you be fearful of that maybe if you're a dirtbag 0.83

03:31:57.660 ought you if you're not a dirt bag be afraid of it no but be motivated to be great and to win 0.98

03:32:08.500 glory and fame um but there's absolutely judgment and that is arian and i would

03:32:16.940 And that's any legitimate faith system, in my understanding.

03:32:24.080 And again, you get us going late in the evening, and we will spend a long time on a singular question, so be forewarned.

03:32:40.100 No, I usually put it on Svon, but it's me tonight.

03:32:43.440 but I think they're important things

03:32:47.360 get to the the next one here I think

03:32:55.480 I think the next one is the one about the books yes okay uh what is your favorite book y'all have

03:33:05.340 read this year Svon what is your favorite book that you've read this year oh uh

03:33:12.800 I got two, but one I read it about every year, and then the other one was just for fun.

03:33:21.740 It was entertainment, so I don't know which one I would – I like both of them.

03:33:32.100 I mean I think it's more poignant.

03:33:33.700 I think that everyone should read it, but about once a year I read The 48 Laws of Power.

03:33:40.760 It's a very interesting book and it's helped me kind of understand people's motivations and kind of able to frame them and word lock them into places of where I just, it helps you see where some people may have ill intentions or great intentions for themselves, but not for anyone else around them.

03:34:10.760 Um, or you could be one of those people, but, um, it's a, it's a pivotal book in, um, a lot of my interactions and worldviews with people and, um, not.

03:34:27.840 What about the fiddieth law?

03:34:36.220 I have read that as well.

03:34:37.980 Um, yes. Uh, the book itself, like I said, it's not, it's not necessarily a book I adore. I don't necessarily adore the author. Um, however, it's kind of like getting a, uh, an owner's manual into the, um, at the best, the ambitious, which is fine.

03:34:58.500 at the worst, the, you know, the conniver, the cheater, the, um, the one that's so ambitious

03:35:05.900 that he's willing to, you know, lay down a lot of his moral worth in order to attain power.

03:35:14.540 Um, well, and the 50th law is of course, written with a rapper and that whole thing. I don't know

03:35:24.620 that's all about and again i i so okay pause i joke i've read every single book in that series

03:35:31.660 including that one and i like them i just thought i would be remiss if i did not remark on that

03:35:39.820 yeah that book in and of itself kind of was redundant to me because of my own experiences

03:35:46.060 versus i think what they were trying to do is create shock value towards perhaps an average

03:35:52.860 american who hasn't had any great brush strokes with violence and um so it was kind of redundant

03:35:59.740 for me and i think it was very very biased based on you know north american black gang culture

03:36:08.380 that didn't really that didn't hold a lot for me you know i will say this to that book though it

03:36:16.940 It puts – so all the other books by that Hebrew gentleman that wrote those books, what was his name?

03:36:32.520 His last name was Green but spelled –

03:36:34.320 Robert Green.

03:36:36.220 Levant spelling.

03:36:37.620 Um, yeah, the other ones put things in a European historical context that I think a lot of people may not find accessible.

03:36:54.840 Talks a lot about, uh, Talleyrand in his dealings with the late French monarchy or with Napoleon.

03:37:03.160 and I'm sorry, with the Emperor Napoleon.

03:37:09.540 It talks a lot about characters and periods of time

03:37:13.480 that folks may not feel, they may not feel connected to.

03:37:20.180 And in all honesty, I started out joking

03:37:23.900 and saying something condescending,

03:37:26.400 but I think the 50th law, putting it in terms of

03:37:31.400 of Curtis Jackson, AKA 50 Cent,

03:37:37.000 puts it in a way that is accessible to people

03:37:42.520 who are reading it now that they can conceptualize better

03:37:45.860 and is more relevant to their lifestyle choices.

03:37:53.980 But no, it's a good book.

03:37:54.960 I read it all the way through, I'm not gonna lie.

03:38:01.400 I don't know why we're on that.

03:38:02.960 We're on that because I chose to take a cheeky deviation.

03:38:08.120 My favorite book that I think I've read this year,

03:38:11.460 and it's kind of cheating because I'm not all the way done with it yet.

03:38:15.200 I take a really long time.

03:38:17.340 Sometimes it's hard for me to get in the mindset to focus on reading a book for a long time.

03:38:21.900 And I went over this with Mandy, a wife.

03:38:26.360 She reads very, very quickly.

03:38:28.100 And my mind doesn't work that way because as I read, I don't read a lot of fiction.

03:38:42.060 Mostly what I read is historical, but historical is dry.

03:38:48.380 So I read biography type of historical work.

03:38:53.380 And I'm always trying to create an image in my head of what's going on.

03:39:02.380 And I spend a lot of time trying to really paint the picture.

03:39:07.780 And I think it makes it, I don't know, I take longer to read maybe than some people.

03:39:13.920 Well, certainly than my wife, Mandy. 0.80

03:39:16.520 Mandy rips through them. 0.80

03:39:18.180 and when i try to question how she can comprehend that fast she demonstrates that she can so she's 0.98

03:39:25.300 able to process that data in a very different way than i am but anyways long way of saying

03:39:33.540 a book i'm reading that i'm really enjoying is stonewall jackson the man the soldier the legend

03:39:41.220 by uh james robertson jr and i think it is a really well done book because

03:39:55.300 it gives me a lot of insight into um general jackson as a man as opposed to just the civil

03:40:05.300 civil war legend um it's over halfway through the book before we enter uh

03:40:13.860 the recent unpleasantness most of the book takes place as he's growing up during his time in the

03:40:23.300 mexican in the mexican-american war during his time as a professor at the virginia military

03:40:30.580 Institute, a lot into what makes him a man. And it adds so much more depth of understanding

03:40:40.140 to his more famous actions in the Civil War. So I think that's a really good one. It's probably

03:40:47.680 the one I've enjoyed the most that I've been reading this last year. But again, it takes

03:40:52.640 me a long time to devour a book. So I don't know if that's a... I don't know. Take that for what

03:40:59.180 um also i see githya anna may on here talking about her um

03:41:10.540 about her daughter and her getting to catch some of this

03:41:16.140 i am so excited to meet that little girl when i get an opportunity to i'm so happy

03:41:20.940 for you and jason and i would i would love to meet your daughter um

03:41:29.180 Got the feels on that one because it's a very, very special couple to me.

03:41:36.460 Okay, cool.

03:41:37.720 So, Hoff and Anon donated another $10.

03:41:40.880 I'm sorry, I take a look.

03:41:42.200 All right, pause for a sec.

03:41:43.960 So, I know that the format for these when we've got the little fun bells and whistles is to immediately stop everything and celebrate the person who donated.

03:41:55.160 i want to do that the best we can but i think that stopping the flow of conversation when it's

03:42:03.800 about something really serious is counterproductive to the religious purpose of our program but i

03:42:10.560 appreciate the donations more than you guys realize so hoffenon donated ten dollars wants

03:42:16.140 to give a shout out to the sons of the high one they would never boast so i'll do it for them

03:42:21.640 great guys great deeds if you guys haven't seen it and i'm looking forward to checking it out so

03:42:28.980 we've got a group of volunteers at odenshoff that are absolutely amazing um

03:42:39.520 they have put in so much work to make that place beautiful and special they've got a special

03:42:48.320 skill set as far as you know remodeling work and things that way and

03:42:55.040 doesn't make sense if you guys haven't been there and so i won't belabor you with it a little bit

03:43:02.360 but the stuff they've done is really amazing i was able to see a little bit of it a few months ago

03:43:09.460 like the last time i was open at ovens at opens off was winter finding back in september it's

03:43:18.500 been that long because the past was closed and iffy due to weather conditions one uh i believe

03:43:25.860 last month for feast of the iron yard and i was really sick for uh winter nights

03:43:32.660 no i don't think i was but mandy and aubrey were anyways there was a sickness going around my

03:43:40.480 family so i haven't been there in a few months this weekend here in just a couple of days i'm

03:43:45.800 going over for yule and i'm so excited to see the work they've done i've seen pictures those guys

03:43:52.620 are doing amazing amazing work and we appreciate them and i know that the all father appreciates

03:44:00.500 the work they're putting in on his temple the first half for odin in easily a thousand years

03:44:09.380 they're doing really special work and i appreciate uh you hoffing on for giving them a shout out

03:44:16.360 some recognition and giving us ten dollars thank you very much and a twenty dollar donation from

03:44:22.860 the phelpses is can you tell us about your favorite children's books hail the future generations of

03:44:30.500 the afa one of the most beautiful things is watching families grow from within the afa

03:44:40.900 and i have been able to see that happen i have been able to participate in that

03:44:47.300 i met mandy through the afa we've had our beautiful little baby daughter aubrey through the afa

03:44:55.840 Call her a little baby.

03:44:57.200 She's three and a half.

03:44:58.900 She's a big girl, but it sneaks up on me.

03:45:04.700 So many special families.

03:45:06.520 So I'm trying to think.

03:45:09.140 Man, I'll get better at this dad stuff as time goes on. 0.96

03:45:14.020 She's little, so she doesn't pay attention. 0.64

03:45:16.360 It's one of the hardest things.

03:45:18.100 She won't pay attention to me really reading her a story,

03:45:22.300 but she gets excited about the pictures and want to tell me about what kind of animals are in the

03:45:28.380 picture what you know what's going on in the picture how many of this or what color of that

03:45:34.380 or what animals this so reading her a story to where the story matters we're not quite there yet

03:45:42.700 there's a book we were given by an afa member crystal about krampus that she's been excited

03:45:53.860 about lately she wants to read every night it's called goodnight krampus basically there's this

03:45:59.200 little krampus and he's all mischievous while the elves are trying to sleep and santa's trying to go

03:46:05.180 do his stuff but krampus won't go to sleep so he's hiding behind a bunch of stuff and she's

03:46:11.700 excited about pointing out where he's hiding like she can find behind a tree oh he's hiding

03:46:17.100 behind under the yeti's bed he's hiding over here he's hiding over there um so anyways

03:46:24.320 santa goes and talks to the krampus and like hey you gotta go to sleep or i can't give you

03:46:30.060 presents and then all of a sudden he's like whoops my bad sleepy time i'm gonna go to sleep

03:46:35.500 he goes around he starts yelling trying to wake everybody all the people who all of the characters

03:46:41.260 who are behaving themselves and sleeping like good little boys and girls.

03:46:45.480 He needs to wake them up to tell them to go to bed and go to sleep.

03:46:50.220 He wakes up these elves. 1.00

03:46:53.240 You'll find that one of the elves look like he's wide awake,

03:46:58.560 contemplating mischief, but that's okay.

03:47:01.980 He is told to go to sleep as well.

03:47:05.520 And at the end, they all sleep.

03:47:08.260 They get their presents, and then they're having fun.

03:47:10.480 Anyway, she's excited because she's able to point out where he's hiding and then in the subsequent rounds where he's not hiding anymore because he's sleeping and behaving himself.

03:47:21.920 That is not at all interesting to those of you who are not parents, but that's kind of where we're at on the storytelling because she's not really following it.

03:47:31.140 She's more excited about looking at the pictures and the differences.

03:47:35.740 so uh a side note though also because you gave us um 20 bucks so i'll give you i'll give you

03:47:45.100 bonus content i remember there's two things i remember when i was little about my dad reading

03:47:54.620 me. First one, Couscous the Mongoose. I need to find it. I need to find that book. I need to read

03:48:07.980 it to Aubrey. I remember nothing about it except for Couscous and Mongoose were funny words to me

03:48:15.540 and I was a little kid and I didn't know what they were. Also though, and this one is really,

03:48:23.680 really, really important. He read me the story of the Emperor's New Clothes.

03:48:33.980 The lessons in that and the full circle of it, I understand that people listening to this maybe

03:48:43.700 have a variety of opinions on this, and this is not the point of it.

03:48:48.900 but we see this a lot in 2020 during the response to COVID-19

03:49:02.520 I remember talking to my dad my stepmom is a retired cardiac nurse so she's knee-deep in the

03:49:15.800 medical industrial complex um my step brother i believe he has a phd he certainly has his

03:49:29.440 masters but i believe he has phd as well in epidemiology and he worked with fauci and them

03:49:37.660 at the the center for disease control and so he's all in on the vaccinations and stuff

03:49:45.780 and they were really all in on all of the uh hysteria that went with the covid thing

03:49:54.880 and i remember talking to my dad as a you know at the time 40 41 year old man

03:50:07.660 about the lessons that he taught me

03:50:12.000 in The Emperor's New Clothes.

03:50:21.180 And I don't say this with any ill will,

03:50:27.480 but I...

03:50:30.380 All of that aside,

03:50:34.060 And I'm very thankful about that lesson because I found that lesson teaching me things.

03:50:45.640 Shoot, you know, what, 35 years later or whatnot as a grown man,

03:50:54.180 the lesson was more poignant than it was the day it was told to me.

03:51:01.160 I thought it was funny because the illustrations in this book have this emperor with his crown or whatever,

03:51:07.380 and he's standing around naked, and I'm a little kid, and I'm laughing.

03:51:13.860 But those lessons stuck with me my entire life, and I think that's really important.

03:51:19.660 um that probably i don't know got more serious than the the question had intended

03:51:32.940 it's fun do you have any favorite children's books

03:51:37.100 uh yeah i really like to read there is a book called read to me grandma and it is a collection

03:51:47.260 of, um, bedtime stories and, uh, fairy tales. And it's very well, uh, the art is, you know,

03:51:57.840 it's superbly illustrated and, um, it's easy to read and it's my four-year-old really likes it.

03:52:03.920 Um, I think all of my children when at the age of four really liked it. Um,

03:52:10.280 i think that the other one that i i'm i really i actually had to hop off to find it real quick

03:52:19.080 because i actually have it right nearby so i was going to say um tales of norse mythology

03:52:27.280 by a and e curie um done by uh these these two sisters and it was written um in the late 1800s

03:52:38.460 early 1900s. And, um, it is an, a really interesting book. And my, my son finds it

03:52:48.420 really interesting because it's written in such a way that it's very similar to perhaps like an

03:52:54.320 Arthurian or, uh, I don't know, perhaps just a, a romantic period, um, story of chivalry and

03:53:04.140 nobleness in the high courts of the gods um in such a way that's very different than um any of

03:53:14.040 the others there are some inconsistencies uh they they do tell a perfect example one that i was

03:53:21.500 reading the other night is uh they they speak of uh lady freya as being the daughter of the lord

03:53:31.260 of the ocean, which is correct in the sense of Njord, but they misplace it to Ayr. But ultimately,

03:53:42.040 the poetics of the story about the loss of Odur and crying gold and amber into the ocean and the

03:53:54.140 land was really, really beautiful. So there is a lot of great stuff in this book and it, it,

03:54:01.260 it just, it reads differently. It changes a lot of the, even just the tone of the whole book

03:54:11.000 has a majestic sense of the gods in the way I think that we should view them. I think that

03:54:21.500 It kind of pulls away from simply, I think a lot of modern books are trying to harken back.

03:54:27.660 If you go on Amazon, you buy a book on Norse mythology and it's, you know, the stories are kind of written in a dumpy, craggy sense or there might be some modernism thrown in there.

03:54:41.440 This has both kind of an air of the time it was written and a majesty that I can't even begin to explain.

03:54:51.000 The other thing is the truly interesting way that they translate Old Norse and instead seek to kind of create anglicized versions that are more easier to understand and to pronounce.

03:55:10.060 Like they call the Aesir, they say the Asas because a singular plus plural in our language is by adding an S as opposed to the Old Norse of changing the into an AE and adding an R or the Vanir become the Van or the Vana.

03:55:31.420 And so it's it's an interesting and easy way to read to your kids and get them kind of started in Old Norse language without hitting them with a lot of words and names and things that are very hard to say.

03:55:50.580 um even for the if you're a you know a native uh or i mean uh you're speaking english and it's hard

03:55:57.720 for you to um you know to pronounce these things it eases them but uh just like an example is when

03:56:05.540 balder uh goes to frigga uh in the story he it's described again that she resides in a crystalline

03:56:14.820 salon and that he comes in and he's holding the dream that he has upon his chest he says that

03:56:25.120 there is a black spot growing upon his heart and that spot is death and if he lets it go it will

03:56:33.080 cover cover the world in shadow and so he shall not release it and it came to him in a dream

03:56:40.200 And I just thought that was such good storytelling about a great amount of the spirit in the stories that, yeah, the Tales of Norse Mythology by A.N.E. Kiri, K-E-A-R-Y, phenomenal book for ages like 8 to 14, if you're trying to read the stories.

03:57:09.960 Again, you might have to piece through it and realign some things because they were writing at a time where, you know, back then they were getting some of the details mixed up, if you will.

03:57:22.700 But it's the same with the book Children of Ode, and that book is greatly misaligned in certain spots.

03:57:29.660 But that would be my vote.

03:57:32.780 So as a random aside with Script Kitty, good to see you here tonight.

03:57:39.400 Um, so we do this because you are literally the face of the Ask True Folk Assembly as a folk builder. Script Kitty in the chat is Lydia Phelps. And I just wanted to say thank you so much for all the work you're doing on our websites. You're doing awesome stuff. They look beautiful. Thank you very much for that.

03:58:05.800 but also she talked about you know what she said what an accomplished family um

03:58:14.200 feel the need to put it out there i'm really uh

03:58:20.360 real proud of my family and what they've been able to accomplish

03:58:26.920 my mother got her master's in education you guys may or may not know she passed away in

03:58:34.840 I have to look, but I'm pretty sure April of this last year.

03:58:41.320 She got her master's in elementary education.

03:58:45.380 Her and my father divorced when I was in elementary school.

03:58:48.680 I think it was about fifth or sixth grade.

03:58:51.300 It's part of the separation.

03:58:52.740 You know, divorce is a legal process. 0.67

03:58:54.720 It takes time.

03:58:56.260 So between that time, they split up.

03:58:59.500 he uh my father has dual retirements from the uh the faa and

03:59:08.680 lieutenant colonel in the uh united states army reserves he deployed he was in the inspector

03:59:20.140 General Corps he deployed to Iraq certainly I believe he it's hard so he was my dad put in his

03:59:32.580 he was really gung-ho and he joined the army at a time to where it wasn't really working for him

03:59:40.760 going to Vietnam they weren't really sending his specialty over there at that time so he joined up

03:59:48.580 super gung-ho ready to go and he didn't get a lot of deployment he did a little um

03:59:55.220 a little something in central south america during the 80s um but in general he didn't get to a an

04:00:03.860 active zone of anything until he put in his retirement he put in his retirement in

04:00:13.300 like late august of 2001

04:00:19.220 and he got called back into service but they didn't accept his retirement because 9 11 had

04:00:26.020 happened so he served at the pentagon for a while um which was kind of cool and i went

04:00:34.420 and i visited him as a young man he goes 20 or so and i visited him in washington

04:00:43.140 this is 2001 so i'm doing the math i was absolutely 20. and i visited him in washington dc

04:00:50.260 and he was working at the pentagon and he got you know called in in a time of conflict

04:00:58.340 and he actually got to go you know he was in the green zone i'm not saying he was kicking

04:01:02.900 indoors or anything he wasn't he was an older guy at the time but in the inspector general corps he

04:01:09.380 got um sent to iraq and he got to actually you know

04:01:17.220 do some time serving his country in a military capacity in an active theater and that

04:01:23.220 uh that meant a lot for him and so that was cool i'm very proud of him that he did that

04:01:28.100 i come from really really patriotic people and it's difficult to see things in the state that

04:01:39.620 they are in our country right now but i'm really proud of his service and his willingness to you

04:01:47.060 know when he was young and until i mean to this day he wants to be thrown in there against our

04:01:56.020 foes and waving the flag and serving his country and i i respect that a lot um

04:02:09.140 his wife my stepmom

04:02:12.740 we've got some disagreements over the the covet situation it was really a hard thing for my family

04:02:18.740 dealing with the battle lines that were drawn on that.

04:02:25.080 She was a very successful cardiac nurse for a really long time.

04:02:29.580 Her daughter has a master's degree in something that lends itself to massage therapy,

04:02:41.940 Like she does sports-related activity kind of massage therapy.

04:02:50.060 And she's awesome and super active and always been really great.

04:02:56.680 My stepsister, that is.

04:02:58.760 My stepbrother, like I said, he's got, I believe, a doctorate in epidemiology.

04:03:06.160 Really smart guy.

04:03:07.860 works in elite levels with the CDC doing things super accomplished in this field

04:03:18.180 and I'm very happy for him in with that two children and you know my dad's on

04:03:27.060 the dual retirement she's got her good retirement they're doing very very well

04:03:31.560 and in a lot of i think that

04:03:39.320 my dad evaluates success in a really different way than i do

04:03:46.760 but i really respect his ambition and his

04:03:53.800 go-gettiveness on making that happen a lot of people become complacent and he never was

04:04:01.560 he pushed very, very hard throughout his life.

04:04:04.980 And one of the things, COVID aside,

04:04:09.420 my dad and my stepmom have always been a really big example to me

04:04:13.560 of people living their lives to their fullest,

04:04:17.160 like watching my grandparents' generation.

04:04:23.060 My mother's father and mother were really close to me growing up,

04:04:30.720 But it's like when they hit 50, they were just, let's put the hair up in curlers.

04:04:36.100 Let's be old grandparents until we're dead.

04:04:39.680 And they died relatively young.

04:04:42.240 And I think that was a thing for that generation a lot.

04:04:46.640 My father and my stepmother, they've stayed really active.

04:04:51.200 Now, COVID really hurt them because it kept them homebound for a couple of years there.

04:04:55.840 But, man, they're out world traveling and hiking and skiing and doing adventurous things into their 70s.

04:05:06.300 And that's really an inspiration to me in my life to, you know, stay young for our daughter as best we can and stay vital and active people.

04:05:17.380 And I think really highly of that and have a lot of respect for that.

04:05:22.560 I think that's taught us a lot of things.

04:05:25.840 When you're in these later hours of Victory Never Sleeps, you tend to wax a little bit philosophical about life.

04:05:35.920 Pirate water helps it.

04:05:39.920 But also, I think these are important things to remark on.

04:05:44.200 And if I get an opportunity to celebrate my father and my step-siblings, I'm glad to do it.

04:05:52.480 They're great people that have accomplished really great things.

04:05:58.700 I just went on and ordered the book, Faustian Futurists, at behest of somebody in the comments.

04:06:08.000 There you go.

04:06:09.520 See, we're sharing here.

04:06:11.160 There's an exchange going on.

04:06:14.560 So question for Mr. Flavville.

04:06:17.200 what would you say to a person who is converting from christianity to also true and new to it all

04:06:24.740 so

04:06:27.680 and i realize some of this is a philosophical construct instead of a reality but i think i

04:06:39.680 would say this in a similar way, though, I would say to anyone getting out of a relationship

04:06:47.280 and starting a new one. First, I think you need to define your relationship with Christianity.

04:06:59.600 why are you breaking from christianity

04:07:06.280 is it because you found this new chick

04:07:10.760 or is it because fundamentally you believe that christianity is wrong

04:07:18.480 evaluating it on its own terms and having a clean break from it

04:07:28.440 I think is really important to starting your new life as an Ausitruer.

04:07:37.800 So first, why do I no longer want to be a Christian? 0.96

04:07:46.940 Reconciling yourself to that, owning it, and breaking that relationship off. 0.77

04:07:54.760 And then, from here, why do I want to become Ausatru?

04:08:04.440 Evaluating it of its own merits and choosing to embrace it, I think, is the healthy way to go.

04:08:13.860 I say that for a couple of reasons.

04:08:16.660 Firstly, the first generation of Alcetru in the United States,

04:08:23.840 and I think likely in the rest of the world,

04:08:28.180 since the reforging of Alcetru by our founder, Stephen Allen, in 1968,

04:08:36.520 a lot of the time in the beginning

04:08:44.040 it was a reaction

04:08:45.580 against Christianity 0.97

04:08:47.580 so it was 1.00

04:08:50.260 well Christianity does 1.00

04:08:52.240 this so I'm going to do the 0.99

04:08:54.320 opposite

04:08:54.880 I get that

04:08:58.240 but I don't think that's the best

04:09:02.320 way

04:09:02.820 also true you are also true not in proportion to how not christian you are that's not the duality

04:09:17.940 also true is being loyal to the isere

04:09:23.540 unrelated to anything else you your folk your gods

04:09:32.820 when you define it as in opposition to something different,

04:09:37.900 you don't give it the credit of being its own faith.

04:09:44.120 And that's fundamental to truly embracing Ausitru,

04:09:48.560 certainly in 2023,

04:09:53.840 is starting from zero and becoming Ausitru.

04:09:58.500 In the 70s and the 80s, it was going from Christianity to, no, this is bad. 0.77

04:10:07.540 So I'm going to define my also true practice as how different it is from Christianity. 0.97

04:10:16.000 It was very necessary in the 70s. 0.98

04:10:18.860 I get that.

04:10:20.760 It's a very different situation now.

04:10:23.020 So not only having a clean break between the one before starting the other, the other thing to, even if you don't feel it yet, to conceptualize when you're considering it, you're not converting to Ausitru. 0.99

04:10:46.000 You're reverting to your default settings as an Aryan person. 0.59

04:10:53.020 Religion, outside of Abrahamic faiths, religion was never a smorgasbord of choosing what you want. 0.99

04:11:09.420 Your religion was dictated by who you were, where you are from, where are your people from, who are your people.

04:11:18.660 And when you answer the question, who are your people, who are your gods, is intrinsic to the answer of who are your people.

04:11:30.500 So when you're becoming Ausatru or embracing Ausatru, you're not converting to something new, foreign, or different.

04:11:42.800 you're coming home to the natural spiritual condition of your soul of your genetics of your

04:11:52.560 person so it's not that you're converting to something different it's that you're shedding

04:12:01.440 all of the layers on top of who you are and you're re-embracing who you are on a fundamental level

04:12:09.940 and building fresh from there.

04:12:13.740 And that's what I would advise folks to do, 0.99

04:12:20.340 is to separate from the things that are biblical or Christian 0.95

04:12:28.180 and then see what's left.

04:12:32.420 And with what's left, rebuild a sense of self in relation to the divine.

04:12:39.940 If that makes sense.

04:12:51.060 Okay.

04:12:52.740 Could you share your knowledge of enchanted weapons and items while on the topic?

04:13:00.700 Is a ward the same thing?

04:13:03.860 swan can you share your knowledge on in magical weapons and magical enchanted items

04:13:12.820 and if they are the same thing as wards

04:13:18.180 that last part i didn't understand because when i think of wards i think of things that protect uh

04:13:24.420 like uh the like the word voter voter voter locker is a word lock or a ward lock um so like is my

04:13:34.500 thor's hammer is my mjolnir a protective talisman warding off evil spirits i suppose oh

04:13:46.660 well i mean i certainly think that the um the essence of holiness in an item uh that

04:13:53.620 you have conviction and gives it great strength especially in relation to um your deeds i think

04:13:59.700 those are cumulative and they create that um essence of that that which is ill or chaotic or

04:14:08.340 and again evil stems from chaos um would reject or or it would it would keep that at bay um

04:14:19.300 um, to a degree. But, uh, as far as magical weapons go, I mean, I think there's

04:14:25.780 two sides to that question. There is of course the, the weapons or the, the, uh, items in which

04:14:35.760 the gods and as divine beings implement their will. A lot of times those are again, symbolic

04:14:44.720 in their um descriptions and they but they ultimately mean it is the force the power and

04:14:52.580 the drive of will of the divine beings ability to interact with the with the worlds um both

04:15:02.200 physical and beyond the meta if you will um but if you're talking about historical

04:15:09.640 semi-historical and legendary weapons of magic that is a really cool subject to kind of delve

04:15:17.720 into and i i don't want to um spend a lot of time but i would say uh all the the legendary swords

04:15:26.200 kind of have commonalities that they're super sharp uh can cut through stone or iron as if they

04:15:33.720 were cutting through cloth uh that they were they have runes on them and that they are forged by

04:15:39.340 dwarves um but some of them have really really amazing stories and one of them i would uh i

04:15:48.540 would recommend anybody who's interested in looking into like magical weapons is the is the

04:15:52.480 story of the cursed sword tyrfing or tyrving uh t-y-r-f-i-n-g that story is is really cool and

04:16:05.880 interesting and it's an again much like uh the story of of sigur the dragon slayer um it has a

04:16:13.580 lot of elements in it from over vast amount of time and and the the story most likely sources

04:16:20.440 from the fourth third fourth or fifth century um which is really interesting because you know being

04:16:27.720 written down in the uh 11th and 12th so that's really amazing um but there are um

04:16:38.440 again like this the the sword in sigurd the dragon slayer gram uh the slayer of fafnir

04:16:46.520 there's uh skofung um the uh sword that was in in the um orcmi

04:16:55.800 uh isles saga that we were speaking of before about thori um again all the same but i think

04:17:04.760 the tear thing story of it being cursed that every time it has to be drawn it has to take a life

04:17:09.960 and if it doesn't then it it commits a great woe against its wielder uh there's just so much

04:17:15.720 really cool uh things in there and so some of them in relation to the latter half of that question

04:17:22.440 is sometimes they're not award sometimes they collect um uh an orlog of their own and that

04:17:30.600 orlog can sometimes be detrimental to the wielder so uh i i find that to be just poetically um insane

04:17:40.680 and awesome in as far as being a storyteller goes um that it's such a cool element but it's you know

04:17:48.600 it's again it's worth noting that swords were rare items amongst our ancestors most everyone carried

04:17:54.600 a spear and a knife and an axe a sword was extremely rare and i mean we have of course

04:18:02.440 Ulfbert, the Anglo sword that's made by an alloyed mixture of metal and iron and carbon

04:18:12.320 at insanely strong rates that people are still trying to figure out how it was done.

04:18:20.960 But yeah, I would recommend anybody who's interested in that go look at Tierfing.

04:18:28.320 Not so much award.

04:18:32.440 So, one thing that, it's a complex question.

04:19:02.440 question so i'm trying to think of the best way to to attack it from um

04:19:16.280 one thing that i think is a fundamental part of the process is an item having a name

04:19:26.520 When you perform a naming, formally or informally, something stops being an it and starts being a who.

04:19:47.560 And that's really fundamental.

04:19:49.840 And I think it's subtle in the difference, but if you, the more you understand of the esoterics of magical practice,

04:20:11.340 it gets

04:20:15.220 a life

04:20:16.440 and an orlog

04:20:19.180 mania of its own

04:20:21.600 when you give it a name

04:20:23.300 the specificness

04:20:30.820 of a name

04:20:32.220 is fundamental

04:20:34.160 in

04:20:36.000 esoterics

04:20:38.260 when Sigurd

04:20:46.900 slayed Fafnir

04:20:49.240 this came into play

04:20:52.960 Fafnir wanted to know

04:20:57.160 the name of the person

04:20:59.080 who killed him

04:20:59.980 there was the thought that if you knew

04:21:02.800 the name of the person

04:21:04.860 with your last breath

04:21:07.240 you could send a spell out to damage that person but the only way for you to do that was to affix

04:21:17.800 it to a personality to affix it to a name so you find great magical enchanted weapons

04:21:29.560 had a name by speaking their name you speak into existence their identity

04:21:40.680 it's not a sword this is tear thing it is the finger of tear this has a name and an identity

04:21:49.400 And with it, it has an oar log, it has a hymenia, it has a spiritual value unto itself that exists outside of the person wielding it.

04:22:03.700 The fact that a name is bestowed upon it gives it an identity and imbues within it a value.

04:22:20.480 It's the same concept that when we do a naming ceremony for a baby.

04:22:25.740 Up to that point, it's flailings, crying, defecating earth fauna.

04:22:36.740 When you apply a name to it, it is a person.

04:22:43.900 It has a fate.

04:22:45.700 It has a hymenia.

04:22:47.100 It has a relationship to other persons.

04:22:49.820 applying the name does something magically that transmuted transmutes it from a thing to a person

04:23:01.600 in the broadest possible sense obviously a sword is not the same as a human

04:23:08.760 but having a name makes it something different than the millions of other swords that the

04:23:17.740 blacksmith makes and puts in a pile that somebody on the front line has

04:23:22.480 those are but those are swords i am tearful and um

04:23:32.760 with that and an award in a sense that's a purpose so when you bestow a name

04:23:42.920 you imbue it with purpose if it's a weapon maybe that is a purpose towards

04:23:52.480 conquest or towards dealing death or towards protecting the wielder or something along those

04:24:03.520 lines if you are imbuing armor or something that's whole purposes to protect then maybe that is a

04:24:12.480 It is to protect you from evil. It is to keep you safe from harm. It is to keep the wearer full of life and energy. Whatever those might be, perhaps there is a warding that's involved.

04:24:27.740 I think it's worth calling attention to the AFA sword, Relentless.

04:24:39.960 We went through a naming ceremony in the same way that we name a child,

04:24:46.020 by imbuing it with three runes, by giving it a name.

04:24:51.100 And Relentless is a blade that was, again, Svahn talks about blades of legends being formed, made by dwarves and all these things. 0.90

04:25:04.040 Relentless was forged by Germans. 0.89

04:25:08.540 It was snuck across blockades to make it to the American South. 0.96

04:25:16.500 It was stripped of any marks that would say who forged it or from whence it came, unless they'd face retribution.

04:25:27.000 Given it in the hands of the Confederacy, they might fight the conquering arms of northern aggression.

04:25:33.940 It was wielded by cavalrymen fighting for his state

04:25:42.220 Versus federal oppression

04:25:46.480 For homeland

04:25:48.500 For his future nation that he thought might be born

04:25:52.180 And it was housed underneath the floorboards in a barn

04:25:58.940 That relentless might be drawn anew

04:26:03.060 when the South rose again,

04:26:07.040 when again the chance was there

04:26:09.220 to birth forth something new and something beautiful

04:26:13.200 in the husk of oppression

04:26:16.200 under the boot of tyranny.

04:26:20.620 This was kept safe.

04:26:24.140 It wasn't turned in.

04:26:25.320 It was kept there

04:26:27.140 knowing that one day it would be needed again.

04:26:31.520 One day, the desire for liberty of a folk, of a people, to determine their destiny might come about, and it would have purpose again.

04:26:45.080 This blade, a relentless blade is marked with nicks and damage from offensive swing after swing after swing against Yankee oppressors. 0.51

04:27:05.880 And it's cleaned up, shined up, we'll get it sharpened up nice.

04:27:11.700 and it stands as the ceremonial sword wielded by the alzharia goethe of the astro folk assembly

04:27:22.280 to lead our folk relentlessly towards our destiny.

04:27:29.860 But no, magically imbued weapons and items and relics are absolutely our thing.

04:27:37.800 If you look at relics in a Christian sense, and medieval Catholicism, they love their relics. 0.70

04:27:45.700 That is straight up pagan idolatry. 0.78

04:27:50.320 That is against every biblical principle that exists.

04:27:56.020 But it's right, and it's good, and it's noble, and it's the soul of our people.

04:28:01.900 how could they deal with anything they felt was holy without that

04:28:08.960 they couldn't so they had to paint it with a thin layer of jesus on it

04:28:17.440 but that's pagan as the day is long in its arms

04:28:22.360 oh so one of the inspirations for Sigurheim which will be the home of Tiershoff generally

04:28:38.880 but Sword Relentless in specific comes from a bit of poetry from our law speaker Alan Turnage

04:28:52.360 And this is a toast that he will often give in sumble to Lord Tyr.

04:28:59.180 With his horn for Tyr I rise, justice for the folk my cry.

04:29:07.260 Our voices have been stilled too long, drowned out by a foreign song.

04:29:14.280 But now again the folk's soul sings with praises of our gods and kings.

04:29:22.360 with blood and sweat with joy and pain we can rebuild the folk again

04:29:30.920 the wolf would tear us part from heart deceit and treachery is art but sacrifice will bind

04:29:41.860 fin rear. And so I raise this horn to tear, hail tear. I've heard Alan make this boast

04:29:56.640 or make this toast during some many times, but the fulfillment of its meaning in a lot

04:30:04.840 of ways is the vision that we have for uh for Sigurheim and for Tiershoff and it was something

04:30:14.020 that was really thought about during the naming of Relentless, the AFA Sorn.

04:30:27.700 Where are we next here? All right.

04:30:34.840 uh all right uh matt my fiance is listening with me right now right now being two and a half hours

04:30:45.320 ago uh and she was raised jehovah's witness uh but she was young and never felt it she's also

04:30:53.560 an also true practitioner now but she completely agrees with what you said

04:30:59.000 my fiance asked as well how your family feels about your spirituality now from being joe's

04:31:07.840 witness because because of them being so strict and firm in their ways and calling her worldly

04:31:19.520 um so my uh my parents weren't particularly religious they were generically protestant

04:31:33.120 christian because you had to pick something but i wasn't raised with that growing up so my father's

04:31:40.640 sister my aunt she she was very devout Jones witness as far as I know she still is I spent

04:31:54.840 a lot of time with my cousins growing up and because I didn't have a firm faith in my

04:32:02.900 most immediate family

04:32:07.820 I went to them

04:32:11.620 not knowing my options

04:32:15.240 I thought 0.66

04:32:16.340 okay cool so Christianity

04:32:19.340 is what I have

04:32:20.660 so I'm going to try to be as Christian as I can be

04:32:25.960 I'm going to try to

04:32:29.560 be as biblical as I can be

04:32:32.900 and the jehovah's witnesses impressed me with how biblical they were 0.61

04:32:37.940 how much they stuck to biblical christianity and they pushed away

04:32:44.900 christianity tainted by paganism but it taught me very starkly the difference between the two

04:32:53.460 I have had no relationship with my aunt or my cousins since then so almost 20

04:33:06.300 years now no more than 20 years now it's very close to my cousins growing up to

04:33:15.720 many of them and to my aunt um they were so strongly in quote unquote the truth that

04:33:28.700 i had been disfellowshipped and they ought not to associate with me that i may not stumble them

04:33:35.760 in their practice so uh yeah i have i have no relationship with that part of my family

04:33:43.900 unfortunately for the last 20 years uh and i don't put that all on them i could have tried

04:33:51.020 better myself to maintain that there always seemed to be a a blockage towards that because they knew

04:33:59.420 that not only so if you are baptized joe's witness and you decide that's the wrong way to go 0.77

04:34:11.420 So you are considered an apostate by their faith, and they are to disassociate with you because there's the fear that you will try to drag them away from being a Jehovah's Witness, which that's fair. 0.98

04:34:34.780 I would absolutely encourage my cousins to embrace their ancestral faith of Al-Satru and to bring them out of Jehovah's Witnesses. 1.00

04:34:47.620 I get that. I understand that. According to their faith, I'm absolutely an apostate. I get it. 1.00

04:34:56.960 And quite honestly, after having been baptized, I am an oath-breaker too.

04:35:02.160 i don't choose to make that my identity but i own that that's honest i made that agreement

04:35:12.000 and i know that it's wrong and i've chosen to break that agreement that i made

04:35:19.200 and i own the consequence of that whatever that consequence might be

04:35:25.280 but it's either that or spend you know at that time the next you know what 60 years of my life

04:35:34.420 doing something I know was wrong because I made a poor choice I've chosen to take whatever hit

04:35:42.920 that might give me but to spend the next 60 years of my life from that point shoot maybe I'll live

04:35:52.240 into my 150s, and there'll be more than that, but I chose to break that relationship that I knew was

04:36:00.780 wrong to pursue something, to stop, start fresh, and to live a life that was authentic. In doing so,

04:36:11.680 that led me to house the truth. I don't regret it for a second, but I don't pretend that I didn't

04:36:19.320 make a make an oath that i went back on and that's honest unfortunately these are the

04:36:30.680 you know ugliness that makes up authentic existence in life is sometimes

04:36:41.000 that's a choice that has to be made

04:36:42.760 i don't pretend that there's not consequence for breaking that oath i accept that the loss

04:36:52.940 of that part of my family is a part of that and i'm willing to do that to further the cause of

04:37:03.420 my folk and my gods and to build my reputation amongst my ancestors and gods

04:37:11.260 but I know there's a cost

04:37:13.700 and I accept that

04:37:16.140 and that's

04:37:18.120 less

04:37:19.920 perfect than it would

04:37:22.040 be if I had it all do over

04:37:23.900 again

04:37:24.320 but it's on us

04:37:26.800 so this one

04:37:39.240 and I'll let Svon, I've been talking a lot,

04:37:41.640 so I'll let Svon hit this next one first.

04:37:45.180 Has anyone ever been hostile towards you

04:37:47.820 for your affiliation with the AFA?

04:37:50.880 Like when you're out to dinner or at a bar,

04:37:53.780 does anyone ever approach you because they recognize you?

04:37:58.040 Have you ever experienced that, Svon?

04:38:01.580 No, no, I've never had anything like that.

04:38:07.260 i think um i remember running into two young kids um who noticed by milner and asked me you know are

04:38:21.180 are you house true which i was really kind of surprised that they knew at least that um and i

04:38:28.220 said oh yeah i'm i'm uh one of the s true folk assembly and they were like oh cool and i think

04:38:37.980 the one that was talking to me didn't get it the other one i think somewhere registered that they

04:38:45.500 had been told or something something happened where it was like a clear turn off and then

04:38:52.220 And they were like, she tugged at her friend's sleeve and was like, we got to go.

04:38:58.080 And they kind of like left abruptly.

04:39:00.100 And it was just in passing, I was leaving a store.

04:39:04.060 Other than that, no, not.

04:39:09.280 No, I did meet.

04:39:11.020 I was in a gas station again, this time, again, these stores.

04:39:15.340 But you got to understand, I'm in a fairly large group of cities.

04:39:20.020 Um, there was kind of a, uh, another guy that noticed my Thor's hammer and he had a, like a

04:39:26.500 Mohawk ponytail. And, um, he, uh, he said, uh, nice hammer. And I was like, thanks. And he's

04:39:35.280 like, you know, we have a kindred around here. If you want to, you want to join. And I was like,

04:39:41.220 oh no, I'm already a part of something. No, thanks. And it's kind of, there was an odd

04:39:49.700 part of that is because he had two children with him and they were not folk. And he was.

04:39:58.000 And I was like, no, I'm already a part of something. And then I just kind of like left

04:40:03.320 because I was kind of in and out. I was standing at a refrigeration unit getting a drink and I

04:40:09.800 didn't want to you know sit here and talk to this guy and i had to go anyways and um but the i the

04:40:15.320 just the the the whole of the situation was was pretty funny to me but no outside of that like

04:40:23.280 random passings of of uh odd people um no never had anything

04:40:32.560 of great recognition i'd imagine you might have something more

04:40:38.140 of akin to that. You know, honestly, reality has a way of fixing a lot of internet nonsense.

04:40:51.640 And I say this a lot, and I think this is as good a time as any to point it out.

04:40:58.540 The statement, often we're in our feelings when we make this statement.

04:41:06.080 You wouldn't say that to my face

04:41:09.000 What?

04:41:12.160 Realistically

04:41:13.280 It's not that aggressive

04:41:16.700 It's not

04:41:19.200 You wouldn't say that to my face

04:41:22.580 Not because you're afraid

04:41:25.780 I'm going to beat you up

04:41:28.020 But because human beings 0.99

04:41:31.900 Have to reckon with

04:41:33.780 the non-verbal communication

04:41:36.960 when they do something

04:41:38.940 that's grossly offensive.

04:41:42.500 And I've learned this

04:41:44.100 in my time at House of Truth.

04:41:51.560 Honestly, I've learned this

04:41:53.260 through skinheads and ex-cons.

04:41:57.140 Guys that you would think

04:41:58.840 would be the hardest people

04:42:00.500 you've ever met.

04:42:03.780 Them looking you in the eye and seeing the reaction you have to something rude or inappropriate or hurtful that they say is very impactful on a fundamental human level

04:42:26.020 that bypasses all of what we think about ourselves

04:42:31.300 and how hard and how keeping it gangster we think we are.

04:42:37.920 There's a way you behave when you're looking someone in the face

04:42:43.460 that's very, very, very different than people often behave behind a keyboard.

04:42:52.700 and again seriously with legal consequences and everything else

04:42:59.000 it's not about fear of physical retribution you have to deal with the fact you hurt somebody's

04:43:07.620 feelings and that they're looking at you hurt because you've wounded them because you said

04:43:14.320 something inappropriate, or that their kids look at you because you've just insulted

04:43:24.680 and humiliated their father or their mother, and the child looks at you in a way, and you

04:43:32.560 don't want to deal with that, or that you're surrounded by a group of normal, respectable

04:43:40.420 people, and you've said something low-class and inappropriate, and they're all looking

04:43:49.160 at you like you're a degenerate or a misfit or something abominable, and you have to reconcile 0.92

04:44:00.360 that. And that reconciliation is overwhelming to some of the guys that I've met in my time 0.97

04:44:10.680 that are the quote unquote hardest dudes out there. No, I've never encountered that.

04:44:20.740 What I have done that's really cool is a lot of people have acknowledged and said,

04:44:27.380 hey is that a thor's hammer which is cool even better hey i like your mjolnir that's awesome

04:44:41.700 i've had that a lot i've never once had a random person in the community

04:44:48.180 see my mule there or any of the afa attire that i wear all the time because that's the only hoodies

04:44:58.500 that i own um or for that matter it's the only gym pants that i own nobody's ever come up and

04:45:09.900 tried to start something with me over that again i don't think it's because i'm such a badass

04:45:17.400 They're scared. 0.94

04:45:18.220 I'm going to throw a whooping on them.

04:45:22.120 It's the human interaction of, hey, this is a nice person in front of me.

04:45:30.480 Often, it's a nice person with his family in front of me.

04:45:36.100 I'm going to come up to them and say something rude and hurtful.

04:45:39.860 we are much better served by having real interactions with actual humans in real life

04:45:49.280 because the interaction of a real person versus someone else who's real

04:45:58.920 is much more authentic than internet virtue signaling

04:46:04.660 and i i really believe in that

04:46:09.860 We've seen it in a small scale with each of our Hoffs.

04:46:16.420 We have people that want to criticize each of our Hoffs and talk about whatever they Googled online and found out we're, you know, practicing.

04:46:28.880 We're guilty of wrong think or whatever else.

04:46:33.060 but

04:46:35.420 sorry I gotta adjust my camera

04:46:43.240 I got this

04:46:44.000 new super fancy camera

04:46:47.060 and it is

04:46:49.480 follows me around

04:46:55.580 so I gotta play with it a little bit

04:46:57.260 anyways

04:46:58.900 what I'm saying is

04:47:00.380 It's really easy to say something mean when you don't feel the response from the person that you said it to.

04:47:10.720 The real world fixes so many of these things, unfortunately.

04:47:17.080 And I'm not an old man just drunk off his pirate water and complaining about these kids these days.

04:47:33.740 Realistically, we were already going on a course where so much of our interaction was over the computer screen.

04:47:44.080 then when the reaction to COVID-19 happened we became even more insulated

04:47:52.600 our social cues aren't the same as they were when I was younger to where you have to take

04:48:02.040 responsibility for the things you say and the way you make someone feel when you say them

04:48:07.840 I truly don't believe most of the time

04:48:12.780 it's about a fear of physical retribution.

04:48:17.380 But you have to deal with the emotional repercussions

04:48:21.020 of the things you say with the person you say them to

04:48:24.500 with their family.

04:48:26.720 And I really have never experienced that in real life.

04:48:33.460 I've had people that don't agree.

04:48:35.500 I've had people that have tried to engage me further

04:48:37.740 about asa true and when i said i was in the afa they've kind of stopped the conversation

04:48:46.460 but i haven't had somebody that came at me hard i've never experienced that yet

04:48:53.500 and honestly some of that is maybe i think i'm a bigger deal than i am

04:48:58.220 most of these people probably have no idea who i am and that's fine um and so they may not ever

04:49:07.740 experience that. But so far, I haven't had a bad interaction in real life that way.

04:49:16.980 It's not always the same. I know a number of people wearing AFA gear have had a different

04:49:21.520 experience, but I've never experienced that. It's funny. So my mom, in her last couple years

04:49:29.840 of her life she was in a an old folks home for lack of a better term she experienced dementia

04:49:38.400 she was dealing with that and for whatever reason they're fairly loose in there with how they share 0.77

04:49:46.680 their stuff so i had taken her to the hospital one time and because she was cold i gave her my hoodie

04:49:54.300 and it was the afa 25th anniversary hoodie and so i gave her my hoodie or whatever and i didn't

04:50:01.260 pay attention when i dropped her off so randomly that hoodie made its way through the old folks

04:50:07.100 home and nobody ever said anything and random old people were wearing my hoodie um as far as i know

04:50:14.300 they still are i'm not gonna go like snatch it off some old timer um but yeah i haven't

04:50:23.100 i haven't experienced that in my life i don't know if other people have i'm sure they probably have

04:50:29.740 but i think real life interactions are very very different than we see online

04:50:34.780 So these pirates make cheap 10% alcohol that causes a host of YouTube videos to wax poetic

04:50:56.980 about questions that may seem very simple um i appreciate you guys dealing with it

04:51:05.060 is what it is uh you read tacitus it is it is something that our folk do um

04:51:15.540 all right so another question from the wolf throne faithful listener to victory never sleeps

04:51:23.780 How did you go from getting Otenshoff to getting Thorshoff, Baldrischhoff, and then Njortzhoff so fast in only a few years?

04:51:38.720 It depends who you ask.

04:51:42.320 If you ask many of our detractors, these are theories that I have heard.

04:51:48.000 So, we run drugs for the Mexican cartels. That's how we're able to afford our hoffs.

04:52:03.120 the same degenerate dirtbag making the accusation doesn't understand 0.96

04:52:13.000 if we actually were running drugs for the cartels and he said that 0.94

04:52:20.580 probably the last thing he would get to say um I've also heard that we are a

04:52:31.140 FBI honey trap operation and that we are funded by the FBI and the FBI has to okay our whoever

04:52:45.660 gets appointed to the Witten nice if that's the case nobody told me and I'm missing some checks

04:52:56.460 so if you are listening uh federal bureau of investigation and you're really pulling strings

04:53:03.180 on this that i don't know about i could i could use the extra funds so please send those over

04:53:12.540 i have not received those if those funds are incoming um

04:53:19.020 really and truly i think that's a sad thing about our folk 0.97

04:53:25.740 I laugh, and the first guy who mentioned that, he's a bad person and a dirtbag.

04:53:33.500 But there is a very real thing amongst well-meaning people in our circles.

04:53:41.080 They're so used to failure.

04:53:45.020 They're so used to not being able to accomplish things that they care about

04:53:52.060 that the only way they can wrap their minds around us succeeding

04:54:00.700 is there must be something nefarious in play.

04:54:05.400 There must be some external force that's funding us or doing something

04:54:12.600 because we couldn't possibly win on our own.

04:54:17.700 And that's sad.

04:54:19.260 And it, that hurts my heart.

04:54:28.500 We are capable of amazing things.

04:54:32.540 We have some people who are very generous, who care about what we're doing.

04:54:39.060 As our law speaker, Alan Turnage, has said a couple of times,

04:54:43.600 we for a nickel we're able to accomplish in dollars worth of work

04:54:52.460 because we're devoted to our gods to our folk and to our cause and we

04:55:02.140 throw everything we can at what we're doing

04:55:06.520 it how are we able to go from odenshoff to forhoffs in

04:55:20.680 eight years less than that but let's just call it eight years

04:55:25.240 first and foremost

04:55:34.520 our gods

04:55:37.020 have poured out their blessings

04:55:39.320 on us

04:55:40.640 I am profoundly thankful

04:55:44.960 to our gods that they have blessed

04:55:47.300 us in the way that they have

04:55:49.160 thank you Lord

04:55:52.920 thank you

04:55:54.760 thank you Lord Balder

04:55:58.640 thank you

04:56:00.560 thank you all the gods

04:56:03.640 that have blessed us

04:56:05.000 on top of that

04:56:07.960 I am doing my

04:56:10.820 very best

04:56:12.580 to be a good steward

04:56:14.880 of the

04:56:16.980 resources

04:56:17.740 that our gods

04:56:20.320 and the generosity

04:56:21.780 of our folk have blessed us with

04:56:24.740 could I do better absolutely am I doing the best I know how to yes I promise you I am do I want to

04:56:38.000 do better with it do I want to do more with it absolutely we have been greatly blessed

04:56:46.540 um i can't tell you you know i i got involved in alsa true in 2001

04:56:55.100 i think i actually took part in the afa in making this happen about 2008 2009

04:57:05.660 but i mentioned we're about to go into year 30 of the astro focus

04:57:15.740 I read rune stones from the early 70s, and Hoff was just around the corner.

04:57:24.500 Having land, and Hoff, and a community was the dream of our ancestors since this started in 1968.

04:57:37.520 Took until 2015 to make this happen.

04:57:42.260 We got Odens Hoff in October of 2015.

04:57:45.740 um i became so that was under i was harry goethe stephen mcnalen's watch

04:57:53.720 and he got us odin soft and it's an amazing amazing thing

04:58:02.980 i became os harry goethe in 2016 at uh officially at midsummer so not even a full year into that

04:58:12.840 we had taken out a 10-year loan to get Odin's off.

04:58:26.980 I'm doing this from the best of my memory.

04:58:29.560 Please don't hold me to it,

04:58:31.260 but I believe within three years we had Odin's off paid off. 0.83

04:58:35.980 so when Odin's Hoff was established it wasn't the first Hoff in a series of Hoffs

04:58:50.260 it was the only Hoff at the time I was here you go through McNallan named it Newgrange Hall

04:59:02.920 because the idea was this was the only hoff and hall that we would have up to that point

04:59:10.280 and to his credit it's the only hoff we've been able to figure out in

04:59:22.440 so now i'm mathin

04:59:23.800 47 years of modern alsatru we had one hof that we established now there were a number of attempts

04:59:37.800 at hofs before this that the rug was pulled out from under that didn't work out for various

04:59:45.560 reasons the first half we had as i was to true in the modern age it's 2015 and he named it new

04:59:55.960 grange hall and then less than a year later i was ordained as as ulterior ghostly

05:00:07.240 and we also came into an issue because it was a grange hall before and they had

05:00:19.220 sent us a cease and desist notice about calling it new grange hall and there's

05:00:29.080 a line of reasoning to name it after new grange steve is an irishman

05:00:35.780 his ancestors come from Ireland

05:00:39.300 and New Grange is a

05:00:41.120 Neolithic holy site

05:00:42.720 but putting

05:00:45.380 New in front of Grange Hall

05:00:47.100 wasn't

05:00:49.240 enough and so the legal team

05:00:51.100 asked that

05:00:52.140 and I chose that opportunity

05:00:55.140 seeing into the future

05:00:59.620 that we're going to have many

05:01:00.700 halls and many halls

05:01:02.700 to our gods

05:01:04.060 to name Odenshof, Odenshof, to dedicate it to the All-Father.

05:01:12.980 First, because he is the first of the gods in the Gildhagame,

05:01:18.120 but also because he is the god that spoke to our founder, Steve McNallan,

05:01:25.240 that inspired this that we are all experiencing today.

05:01:31.160 as Ausatru.

05:01:34.720 It all comes from

05:01:37.020 a very specific interaction

05:01:39.620 between the All-Father

05:01:41.900 and our founder,

05:01:43.860 Osheri Agothi Stephen McNall.

05:01:48.700 So I chose to dedicate

05:01:51.920 the Newgrange Hall

05:01:53.660 as Odenshoff,

05:01:56.000 dedicated to the All-Father Odin.

05:01:58.100 And from there, and in that process, trying to do the right things at the right time, through the generosity of our folk, I was able to arrange to where that 10-year note was paid off within two to three years.

05:02:17.200 And immediately, because this is our commitment, I wanted to establish Thorson.

05:02:25.300 we looked we found an area to where we had a lot of our folk to where we had people that said they

05:02:32.740 would be true to it that had asked for it that said they would rise to the occasion

05:02:38.180 their bowels turned to water and they ran other people stood up to make

05:02:47.040 Thorshoff happened.

05:02:49.620 People like our guest tonight

05:02:51.520 went Svahn.

05:02:54.960 And so

05:02:55.480 in relatively short order there,

05:02:57.640 within five years, from

05:02:59.360 Odenshoff

05:03:00.180 to Thorshoff,

05:03:03.320 we established Thorshoff, 0.89

05:03:05.500 the second Hof of the Austroful

05:03:07.260 Assembly.

05:03:09.580 We were able to get it at

05:03:11.400 a very good price

05:03:13.320 for what it was. It's actually

05:03:15.320 two buildings. It's Thorshof

05:03:17.280 itself, which is the

05:03:18.780 sanctuary, the Bay area.

05:03:22.020 And there's a fellowship

05:03:22.980 hall next to it

05:03:25.300 that's been named after

05:03:27.220 a member of ours who is a very celebrated

05:03:29.420 member named Terry Rumpf.

05:03:33.260 So both the sanctuary,

05:03:35.620 the Bay, and the fellowship

05:03:37.260 hall, Rumpf Hall,

05:03:39.320 were able to be purchased

05:03:41.040 for like $110,000.

05:03:46.280 and again that hoff has been large so most of that hoff has not been supported by north carolina

05:03:54.200 the state that it finds itself in thor's hoff is in linden north carolina

05:04:01.800 but what really made that hoff happen comes from virginia and south carolina and people that are

05:04:11.240 willing to travel hours out of their way to make this half to also thor's success and it has been

05:04:19.640 we're very very proud of it um there was a lot of testing that went to see if i could

05:04:30.680 if i could provide a second half

05:04:35.240 thor's half will always be special to me because that was the first half we got under my watch

05:04:41.240 um that same year this is amazing within one calendar year got forrest off also got bulgers

05:04:54.380 off

05:04:54.800 um again this is all through donations and the generous giving of people like yourself

05:05:03.260 we took out we had to get money loaned to us for Odin's Hoff and paid that off

05:05:12.020 we had to get money loaned to us for Thor's Hoff

05:05:17.020 but we had enough money on hand to purchase Baldur's Hoff

05:05:24.180 Baldershof was a little bit different so the building that became Baldershof was run down

05:05:35.460 we were able to get that building for forty thousand dollars

05:05:41.460 that was due to your generosity something that we had on hand

05:05:48.900 And so we took out no additional loan, no additional debt.

05:05:58.840 Here's $40,000.

05:06:00.980 Give us this building and this property.

05:06:05.620 The people who said they were going to be the champions of Baldur's Hall,

05:06:11.180 their bowels turned to water and they ran.

05:06:15.160 And they hid somewhere in North Dakota.

05:06:18.900 They erected a stick in the middle of the field and said, hey, this is good enough.

05:06:24.900 We've got our God pole.

05:06:28.340 But the people who wanted to put in work made Baldur's Hough happen.

05:06:35.200 It's beautiful.

05:06:36.500 It is amazing.

05:06:37.360 If you haven't been there, you owe it to yourself to go.

05:06:42.500 In Murrock, Minnesota, we have an amazing and beautiful hough to shining Baldur there.

05:06:48.900 mean in the meantime we paid off those off true to our word true to our commitment to the lc

05:06:57.540 or um we started looking immediately for the next home those new york's home

05:07:06.420 florida is 0.98

05:07:10.260 especially since

05:07:13.780 all the COVID stuff

05:07:15.100 they're one of the few

05:07:17.900 states that kept

05:07:19.820 to their principles

05:07:21.120 the principles of America

05:07:23.780 and reasonableness

05:07:26.120 and stayed open

05:07:27.620 so they became a very

05:07:29.700 very attractive place to buy

05:07:31.840 property

05:07:32.420 we got New York's Hof there

05:07:35.360 New York's Hof was

05:07:39.360 probably as expensive

05:07:41.600 as all the previous

05:07:43.040 Hoffs combined

05:07:44.220 to get New York's Hoff there.

05:07:46.840 And it's beautiful, it's an amazing

05:07:48.780 Hoff in

05:07:49.880 White Springs, Florida

05:07:52.380 in

05:07:54.100 northern Florida

05:07:56.000 about central to northern

05:07:58.640 Florida

05:08:00.080 like halfway between

05:08:03.000 Lake City and

05:08:04.820 Live Oak

05:08:05.500 and it's amazing.

05:08:09.360 It was more expensive than the others, we were able to get an independent investor and

05:08:18.400 one of our members to give us two loans to get that.

05:08:23.320 We've paid off the member, we've paid off one of the loans, we still have about 99,000

05:08:29.860 withstanding on one of the loans from a gentleman in California, and we're working diligently

05:08:37.420 to pay that off so we're working on paying that off and as soon as it's paid off i really hope

05:08:43.980 and i think that if we try hard we can do it in 2024 we can move on to trying to get phrase off

05:08:52.780 in 2025 and that's the plan we're going to work very hard towards it but again it's due to you

05:09:00.060 guys your generosity and the blessings of our gods and i'm very very appreciative of that

05:09:07.420 Um, so I gots to post about some of our donations in the meantime, because it's the right thing to do.

05:09:18.420 And I'm sorry I went off on a tangent there.

05:09:21.180 Jimmy Crack Corn and I Do Care for $5, hail the gods, who's down for a late night sleep drunk donation train.

05:09:33.560 Give to our church, give to the gods. I'm all about that. All right, cool. So we appreciate that. Baldur's Hoff, bestest Hoff. I don't know if that's dubious. A $1 donation, a dollar train, choo-choo. May the bestest Hoff win.

05:09:56.960 i'm all for people getting on that dollar train i don't know if one dollar

05:10:02.640 makes baldur's off the bestest off we'll see um i'll see coleman miller bought us a five dollar

05:10:11.660 coffee thank you for oh wow bought us a looks like five five dollar coffees for 25 bucks

05:10:19.980 Hail the AFA.

05:10:20.920 Well, hail to you, Alcy.

05:10:22.140 We appreciate you.

05:10:23.680 That goes a long way.

05:10:26.080 So let me see where we're at.

05:10:29.280 Again, I blame it on the pirate water, but we're having really long answers to your questions.

05:10:35.140 I'm taking a page out of Witten Svon's playbook here on the super long-winded answers.

05:10:42.260 Taking the book.

05:10:44.140 I hope they're all right, and I hope that you and Nick would have the good sense to shut me up if I'm rambling.

05:10:54.580 No, really and truly, I think you guys are asking some good questions tonight, and they're giving me an opportunity to.

05:11:06.140 So another little bit of inside baseball.

05:11:11.320 I'm not a good writer.

05:11:13.320 i don't think the afa right now that's our skill set

05:11:19.560 we do a lot of really good things

05:11:24.760 i'm on here and it's been

05:11:29.000 it's been five hours now if you said matt go talk about asatroop we'd be out of here in 30 minutes

05:11:37.560 you all asking questions generates the inspiration to express a lot of these things

05:11:50.660 i think they're very important and they're not stuff that you necessarily lead with

05:12:01.360 they come off best as answers to questions

05:12:05.820 Our faith isn't from a book of scripture

05:12:11.940 It is wisdom

05:12:15.100 Accumulated by Gothar 1.00

05:12:17.260 Who devoted their life to this

05:12:19.160 And it's best done through conversation

05:12:23.260 Through word of mouth

05:12:24.920 Through that sharing of information

05:12:28.520 And I believe very much that's how the ancient priesthood worked

05:12:32.240 But you all asking and participating in this process is how we're able to disseminate that information.

05:12:42.140 And I appreciate that in a lot of ways.

05:12:49.660 So our next question is, how do you feel about companies who promote anti-white ideas and wokeness?

05:12:57.280 Do you try to avoid buying products from such companies?

05:13:01.100 what seems fun yes no uh we uh here if if it's known like i i um i don't know i'm trying to think

05:13:17.900 of like anything in particular i i can't really other than maybe uh chick-fil-a i don't particularly

05:13:28.780 like to support them uh mainly because of some of the the things that they have turned towards and

05:13:35.020 they used to be staunchly against and then they have kind of turned and again like you said their

05:13:43.100 their uh guts have turned to water and they've they've uh no longer you know stood strong against

05:13:50.300 things but outside of that i can't really recall unless it's like an immediate thing i i i try not

05:13:57.020 to i don't really support netflix i think i got away from that during the whole cuties thing

05:14:04.620 they're promoting a lot of uh degenerate stuff towards children um or about children um

05:14:14.060 i mean those are that's the two right off the top of my head but i i just try not to interact

05:14:18.700 too much with uh companies that make money off of um their disdain for my people or uh oftentimes

05:14:28.220 too like even though i know um some entertainment groups and things like that they are being kind

05:14:35.900 of infiltrated by um you know marxist post-modernists or whatever you want to call them

05:14:45.080 And I just try to avoid supporting any groups that kind of outwardly show that or try to create verbiage or, you know, doing things in which they want to adjust people's ways of thinking towards Marxist ideals or, you know, global socialist ideas.

05:15:08.900 Anything like that, I try to, you know, steer away from on a general sense.

05:15:14.160 but um it's hard to keep a list of that to try to keep all that organized the the number

05:15:26.240 groweth if you will a lot and i i find it's like it's not that i mean i i suppose

05:15:37.080 the deep dive is if you look into it too deep you end up finding out like you know these companies

05:15:44.420 that are supporting uh things that are kind of benign but you look at these titles like

05:15:50.020 if they're talking about like comic book protection group and then it turns out they're

05:15:56.220 trying to you know defend the uh the um like illustrated homosexual book pamphlets that are

05:16:05.640 in public schools now and it's it's all hidden in these benign titles and i mean to a degree it's

05:16:14.060 worth looking into it's making sure that you don't give over much to people that are clearly

05:16:19.200 malicious or venomous um to decency or just to our people but it's you know it's hard i mean i'm

05:16:31.440 I imagine the best thing that we can do is, of course, try to work within, you know, local groups that, you know, even people that I don't know or people that are non-folk or what have you.

05:16:53.480 as long as they're kind of running their own businesses and doing their own

05:16:56.660 things, I'm open to trade. I'm open to, um, you know,

05:17:00.660 exchanging goods and farmers markets and all kinds of stuff,

05:17:04.900 but there's some, some things you can't get away from, uh, you know,

05:17:09.040 Walmart, I think a long time back,

05:17:12.080 there was some mention of Sam's club, the, uh,

05:17:15.880 the CEO at the time.

05:17:17.220 And I don't know if she's still CEO was saying that she was no longer going

05:17:20.380 to hire a white people or something like that.

05:17:23.160 And it was just, you know, it was said, and at a certain point you can't say anymore, like, oh, well, if a white person had said that, or you could go down that line over and over and over again, a thousand times a day, at the end of the day, it's, you know, you just kind of pick and choose.

05:17:40.480 so like i think i was a member at sam's club and um there was something said like that so i just

05:17:46.680 i was like no i'm taking taking away my membership and i'm gonna go over to uh another place and i

05:17:53.520 you know another wholesaler that uh doesn't make a habit of making their um politics known or or

05:18:01.040 what have you or their their racial biases um because in reality too like i think a lot of

05:18:07.840 people have a lot of misconceptions about us as a folkish people uh they think that we you know

05:18:14.320 somehow uh harbor hatred or resentment towards other people i i deal with people of all different

05:18:21.180 types of ethnicities all the time and as long as you know they're decent and up front and i'm up

05:18:27.780 front and a lot of times we get things done and and carry on about our day and oftentimes very

05:18:34.160 nicely. So here in the South, there's a lot of nice people. So, you know, go about our lives

05:18:42.380 perfectly fine without a lot of like, I think that these, the stuff that these internet

05:18:49.400 warriors and people that aren't looking at you in the face or just in general, you know,

05:18:54.540 their, their vitriol that they kind of reserve for their ideologies online versus the reality

05:19:02.340 of things so i would say yes i do avoid certain things if i'm aware within a certain degree um i

05:19:14.260 think my family kind of does but we don't limit ourselves so much to the point where we're

05:19:20.180 suffering or the idea that we're just grinding away at like oh do they do they hate white people

05:19:26.100 do they hate white people or you know look into it too much it's like we just

05:19:29.940 um focus too much on that and i i have found that it ends up you know generally we focus

05:19:40.500 more locally and and we meet people that are um uh you know in the same lines like it's so funny

05:19:48.500 to me there's um a couple of um business owners they're not folk but they're pretty conservative

05:19:55.140 or they're pretty right wing or whatever you want to label it as, or, or just, you know,

05:20:00.340 generally normal people and, um, find a lot of commonality with them, uh, in a lot of regards.

05:20:08.700 Um, they're very proud of who they are, very proud of who I am, but at the same time, they're,

05:20:15.200 they're decent people. And so I can interact with them quite easily. And, and we, I find myself

05:20:22.840 very oftentimes looking in the same direction as them going oh this is terrible like who are these

05:20:29.400 absolute psychopaths that we're you know standing on the ship with um or that we're trapped in the

05:20:37.160 elevator with or however you want to look at it but um yeah try not to make it too much

05:20:43.880 a defining factor for myself it's just if it's blatant then yeah i'm not i'm not supporting that

05:20:49.880 um i mean

05:21:02.440 how do you feel about companies that are woke i mean of course i am opposed um

05:21:11.720 that's gross i don't like it when it's obvious and in my face i reject it

05:21:17.640 it. I mean, if it's in my face, then I'll walk out and not support it. Realistically,

05:21:33.580 most companies are woke. Most boards of directors are like that.

05:21:42.940 I ride the tiger when I can

05:21:47.580 I get cheap goods for cheap prices

05:21:52.660 if there is a company that I am aware of

05:21:59.720 that specifically targets my folk

05:22:03.900 I try to avoid them

05:22:06.300 but at a reasonable price point

05:22:09.200 I'm not going to pay

05:22:12.360 vastly more for a product because it's american made by people i agree with if it's half as

05:22:25.000 expensive from the chinese and i may not be popular it's just honest as a father that deals 0.77

05:22:35.380 with buying things for his family yeah i go walmart and i get cheap chinese crap a lot

05:22:47.860 trying to base my family's finances on artisanally made whatever is just that's not how we succeed

05:23:00.580 that said we live in a really strange time

05:23:05.980 and this may feel differently from people younger than myself

05:23:15.760 but I was you know I'm a child of the 1980s I grew up you know communism is the devil

05:23:27.160 It's all about Rambo and Rocky and Hulk Hogan, communism bad, and America good.

05:23:38.320 Now we have to go to Russia, Eastern Europe, and to China for freedom because we don't have freedom over here.

05:23:52.380 Everything is woke. Everything is LGBTQ and whatever else they decide to throw in.

05:24:05.620 And in order to have traditional values, very often we have to purchase things from communist countries or countries that were, you know, until very recently communist countries. 1.00

05:24:22.380 Sad as that is, the Chinese don't tell me what a horrible person I am 0.97

05:24:31.560 if I want to make things that express pride in who I am.

05:24:37.120 If I want to get products that support my race and my religion

05:24:45.660 and the things that are important to me,

05:24:48.540 they're very happy to make those for me at a reasonable cost.

05:24:52.380 Whereas American companies won't, because wokeness dictates that they virtue signal at the expense of my religious practice.

05:25:02.160 It's very hard for a man from a patriotic lineage and born and raised in the 1980s

05:25:21.900 feeling like

05:25:25.800 to experience freedom

05:25:28.480 we have to interact

05:25:30.560 with Russia and China. 0.95

05:25:34.200 That's the world we live in

05:25:36.120 and denial doesn't make it

05:25:38.660 better.

05:25:40.580 But it's a complex

05:25:42.620 situation.

05:25:45.020 And I think the expression

05:25:47.020 ride the tiger makes a lot

05:25:48.820 of sense.

05:25:49.520 If everything is woke around you, do your best with the utility that you have presented to you.

05:26:01.180 If someone is in your face with their disrespect, don't line their pockets.

05:26:09.720 But you've got to do what you've got to do to make economic choices that make sense for you and your family and that provide value.

05:26:16.080 going outside to people that may not look like you

05:26:21.720 but treat you fairly and respectfully

05:26:25.380 is oftentimes better than purchasing from people

05:26:30.680 that share a commonality with you

05:26:33.400 but are actively

05:26:37.320 against all of your core values

05:26:41.580 um we live in very strange times and the decisions that you make today are

05:26:49.500 very very different than they may have been 30 40 years ago

05:26:55.020 when your children are older and they figure out santa is not real do you try to tie that

05:27:08.680 into house of truth like in a way he is real because he is odin or something it's fun what

05:27:16.280 are your what are your inclinations towards that you have much older children than i do

05:27:23.880 um i think my eldest is starting to suspect uh but you have to understand um one thing that we do

05:27:33.400 in my house is that the yule elf uh is called by the yule log the log is lit the yule elf comes

05:27:41.720 and then we burn a yulebok so that he can ride to the ancestors and bring the ancestors gifts

05:27:50.040 and then we talk about the ancestors on ancestors night and there's a lot more to it uh we don't

05:27:59.400 really even the uh like i tell the children like no the santa claus that um people that celebrate

05:28:09.320 christmas and the santa claus that's um that's not the old way that's not our way our way is

05:28:18.280 older and that's where they got it from the santa claus character is the yule elf but um

05:28:24.840 um you know my kids kind of when they're young they're just like okay that's fine and when

05:28:30.740 they're older they're like no we like they understand my my eldest understands it's an

05:28:36.640 older way but as they get older i think that ultimately what's going to stay there is the

05:28:43.800 the poignant parts about the yule elf in our house one greed and miserliness is bad

05:28:51.240 um buying gifts for your family and ensuring that you build that love and friendship and

05:29:00.360 enjoyment with each other and share with each other is key and ultimately too never forgetting

05:29:07.580 where you come from and the people who who uh still care about you so the the gifts from the

05:29:13.460 ancestors in relation to the sweaters and the socks and the jackets and the books and all of

05:29:19.560 those things that come from them that want us to be better stronger uh well taken care of

05:29:26.020 that magic never really goes away despite the reality of the situation and the yule elf is

05:29:33.040 the spirit of giving within the house because i you know my children you know they know that

05:29:42.420 yule elf when we light that yule log our yule elf for our family goes to our ancestors and brings

05:29:49.700 back those gifts so it is unique to us and us alone and every family that lights the yule log

05:29:57.140 calls their yule elf and so it makes complete sense to them and ultimately i think you know as

05:30:05.060 might say my eldest gets closer to an understanding i think he'll see those points

05:30:12.040 more importantly and he'll understand the the joy of of um really cultivating the magic in our

05:30:18.480 children um i think a lot of people modernists are like why would you lie to your children or

05:30:24.260 they get this kind of shmarmy uh intellectualism about it and they they they forget that sometimes

05:30:31.980 uh cultivating magic and happiness and children is often predicated on um

05:30:40.760 hopes dreams and things like that and basically people that you know piss on that idea are people

05:30:49.680 themselves who no longer have any hopes dreams or or happiness and um and again too they they lose

05:30:56.040 they they were probably not part of being the the whole growth of a family where the eldest

05:31:03.320 suddenly comes to learning about things but then he participates in the tradition from the other

05:31:09.540 side and it's like now he he or she is you know older now feels older like they're a part of a

05:31:16.200 threshold and now they're on their way to becoming an adult um but they still understand that the

05:31:22.740 magic is important for their siblings their younger siblings i think that um that's really

05:31:28.880 important and i don't really abide by the um that that uh santa claus or the the yule elf is is odin

05:31:38.940 or thor um i i have always in my family the yule elf is a spirit of our family and it grows old

05:31:48.700 with us and as long as we keep the tradition going and my kids are pulling you know pictures

05:31:55.100 of me down from the the mantle to tell their kids about the gifts that i got them for yule

05:32:00.700 and so on and so forth for generations and generations to come every yule you know i'll

05:32:07.500 be remembered uh on ancestors night i'm perfectly happy with that magic so

05:32:18.700 Yeah. I don't have firsthand with my child doing that yet because Aubrey's three and a half. It's kind of cool. This is her first Yule that she's really aware and excited about Yule.

05:32:48.700 All I have is myself.

05:32:56.100 I think it's telling when children discover that, you know, it's really your parents putting presents there and not Santa Claus.

05:33:11.700 if you react in some kind of extreme how dare you betray me everything you've told me is a lie

05:33:22.600 that's indicative of something's wrong in your family

05:33:27.460 um that was not my experience growing up i don't think that's most of our experience growing up

05:33:41.700 I don't see these generations of my ancestors who are so betrayed

05:33:47.940 that their parents lied to them about Santa Claus.

05:33:55.480 I think that speaks to the soul sickness of our folk 0.83

05:33:59.840 and to the woke, green-haired, nose-wearing nonsense

05:34:06.160 sense of the people who are producing, if not raising kids today, that's an organic

05:34:21.260 process that makes sense to everyone who's come before us up until this last generation

05:34:28.680 Because all of a sudden, we're so woke that we don't lie.

05:34:34.720 And those of you listening to this on Spotify, I'm using air quotes to our children by trying to infuse a little bit of magic in the world. 0.66

05:34:47.020 That's silly.

05:34:49.380 And yes, absolutely. 0.93

05:34:51.320 As children become older, you contextualize it into our faith.

05:34:56.360 I also don't believe the Yule Elf equals Odin equals Thor. 0.84

05:35:03.060 That's, I think that that is opportunistic.

05:35:11.540 I think that when our folk realize so much of the traditions of Christmas are, let's say, borrowed.

05:35:26.360 but perhaps stolen from our ancestors, that they overlay things in a really extreme way.

05:35:36.120 I don't think that our ancestors conceived that Odin rides around and gives little kids toys all the time.

05:35:44.520 I don't think that's really fitting to our ancestral faith.

05:35:49.860 just for it not to be christian doesn't mean it has to equal odin and thor and that's part of what

05:36:00.160 i meant earlier when i say when someone is a christian and they're breaking away from that

05:36:06.360 want to embrace also true you need to stop being christian do away with all of that

05:36:15.300 and then re-embrace being out of true in a positive way

05:36:21.560 as opposed to comparing the one to the other.

05:36:27.020 It's kind of a theme, but I think it's really important.

05:36:33.060 I wanted to say one thing.

05:36:35.840 I think the biggest thing is that

05:36:40.960 it's much like akin to um an adult understanding the divine as opposed to a child

05:36:49.220 thinking about thor as riding in a chariot in the clouds the magic and the and the joy

05:36:58.820 or the power the visceral nature of mythos to a child is very very powerful but there's a growing

05:37:07.520 lesson that our understanding of things becomes much bigger and much more i don't want to say

05:37:15.660 adult-like but it's it is it's it's um you know you have these people some people like i remember

05:37:21.640 that story you were telling me matt about um people pontificating on uh thor's like workout or

05:37:30.400 They were just talking about Thor in a non-divine, non-pious sense.

05:37:37.460 They were making him almost like a comic book-y character.

05:37:40.820 And that's what we're not doing.

05:37:42.800 We're understanding that Thor's powers and ability, his dominion in relation to the physical,

05:37:50.460 whether it's, you know, the mystery of electricity and the electromagnet or the idea of the power that surrounds the earth in storms and how his divine dominion is huge.

05:38:08.080 and he interacts with the world through what we would call the well of earth um but understanding

05:38:15.560 that these are again like mythic concepts that have tangibility even more so when we're children

05:38:24.120 but when we grow older we begin to conceive things a little bit more um i guess intimately

05:38:30.780 metaphysical instead of supernatural and i think that that's important for our children to have

05:38:39.300 that because you learn a might and a magic within it but then as you grow older you begin to

05:38:45.540 understand that that might and magic has more of a tangible field in reality um and people lose that

05:38:53.680 or they never gain it and then they they somehow feel that they've been lied to or something of

05:38:59.960 that nature. They're so materialistically focused that they can't grasp neither the myth of childhood

05:39:08.120 nor the meta of adulthood. They're just kind of stuck in some sort of modernist miasma.

05:39:19.080 Unfortunately, that affects a lot of us.

05:39:23.780 um so when i first started getting together with people up in anchorage alaska so outside of the

05:39:34.540 context of the austral folk assembly it was kind of dealing with whoever was around me that said

05:39:43.240 they were housing. And again, we, unfortunately, but it is what it is. We're at the stage we're

05:39:56.880 at and we deal with a lot of very broken people. There was a girl named Lauren who would gather

05:40:09.520 together with us she had a lot of damage a lot of stuff going on

05:40:17.520 and she had this this thing she got in this struggle of wills with her dad when she was a kid

05:40:28.000 about brushing her teeth and it's like he demanded that she brush her teeth and she somehow tricked him

05:40:37.440 by not brushing her teeth but like wetting her toothbrush and some kind of nonsense

05:40:45.840 and then from that day forward i didn't respect my dad because he couldn't force me to brush my teeth

05:40:52.000 and it was indicative of

05:40:57.040 a real lack of mental health in a situation that went on with the family

05:41:01.920 lauren now refers to herself as mason and claims to be a guy so

05:41:12.780 mental health in our world is a very very real problem one that a lot of people struggle with

05:41:26.000 In a healthy society, I don't think anybody's betrayed that their parents tried to teach them about Santa Claus.

05:41:36.980 If you are, I think it's indicative of a much bigger unhealthiness that needs to be healed.

05:41:52.220 So the next question from the Wolf Throne.

05:41:55.360 Like Odin, taming his wolves.

05:41:59.100 Have you ever been in a situation where you had to tame an aggressive animal?

05:42:04.560 Svon?

05:42:10.320 Honestly, no.

05:42:11.560 I don't think I've ever been in a situation where I had to tame a wild animal.

05:42:18.640 That is an oddly specific question.

05:42:21.560 But no, no, I've never been in a situation where I was faced with a wild animal that I had to tame.

05:42:31.580 I've kicked a rabid raccoon once, but it certainly wasn't tamed after that.

05:42:39.520 And I was running because I was a kid and I was not trying to get rabies.

05:42:45.220 don't let the woke folks know that spawn kicked a coon 0.96

05:42:52.800 so that being said um 0.96

05:42:59.820 metaphorically i think that we've all had to deal with um

05:43:11.120 out of control

05:43:15.200 animal sides of ourselves

05:43:17.460 I say all

05:43:19.860 I think that Svon and I as

05:43:21.660 priests have had to deal with

05:43:23.520 very powerful impulses

05:43:29.660 to act

05:43:31.640 a certain way that we've had to

05:43:33.700 temper with wisdom

05:43:35.000 and

05:43:36.160 discernment in our

05:43:39.740 role as priests

05:43:40.880 More to your question specifically as far as, you know, magically calming animals.

05:43:52.200 Animals are really special because they see us as adults.

05:43:59.720 We've become very, very reliant on verbal communication. 1.00

05:44:10.880 Children and animals and foreigners who don't speak English have 0.92

05:44:38.120 to rely on very different ways of perceiving intention i think it's really useful um as an

05:44:52.120 american i have learned a lot from the times i've traveled abroad and dealt with folks that didn't

05:45:00.840 speak english i forget what the statistic is but a overwhelming majority of our communication is

05:45:14.200 non-verbal it's on how we interact how we look how we physically move the tone that we use

05:45:26.840 the facial expression that we use the way we signal our intention um

05:45:38.680 i can deal okay with watching video of bad things happening to people

05:45:48.040 especially if the person involved is a bad person i'm haunted for days and weeks after when i watch

05:46:01.460 abuse towards animals like people will post something on twitter on facebook to highlight

05:46:08.600 animals being mistreated that traumatizes me to my core like that'll keep me up at night that'll

05:46:19.660 really mess me up

05:46:21.200 because of the communication that animal doesn't understand why they're being tortured or mistreated

05:46:32.060 and a person can conceptualize that differently and it goes in reverse a little bit when you're

05:46:40.780 dealing with animals having to tame a wild animal i don't know that that's something i've

05:46:49.460 dealt with i think

05:46:52.220 a couple of interactions that i suppose i'll throw out there for what they are

05:47:00.420 One time, I think it was 2012, midsummer in the Sierras, walked out in the woods, and I had a baby bear come up to me.

05:47:21.220 it was really strange it was a brown bear a baby bear and i was entranced by it so i didn't

05:47:33.120 think it through for a second it came up to me so close that it put its nose sniffing my hand

05:47:43.480 it came up

05:47:49.080 sniffed my hand

05:47:51.000 my hand got wet with it's like

05:47:53.980 nose goo

05:47:56.140 sniffed

05:47:57.380 sniffed my hand 0.97

05:47:58.740 and then it

05:48:01.020 climbed a tree next to me

05:48:03.740 and I was just enraptured with this

05:48:07.840 for a second because it was really special

05:48:10.040 and it occurred to me

05:48:12.220 when it was climbing the tree where's mom mom's somewhere she's not just letting this baby run

05:48:22.620 around and do his thing she's close and so i got up and i started kind of slowly backtracking

05:48:34.120 the way that I'd come to go back and it was in Alta California at Camp Norga or

05:48:42.220 just outside of it wherever I'd hiked never heard or saw mom so it was all

05:48:51.340 good it was a really special experience and it was at an also true event I don't

05:49:01.180 hope did mom smell that i wasn't threatening that i was in a spiritual place to where i

05:49:11.500 appreciated her baby and i wasn't dangerous maybe i hope so um

05:49:21.500 the other situation i can think of i was with my friend who was also an aussitur in

05:49:33.180 in alaska we were out hunting we're moose hunting

05:49:38.860 and he lived out in the sticks this is pretty close to his house

05:49:43.740 we were out you know looking for moose we had our our rifles you know we had 30-06s

05:49:49.260 i i say that i had a 30-06 i had no idea what he's had what he had um but we were

05:49:58.460 out loose hunting we got in this really tall grass place

05:50:07.660 and you could just feel the atmosphere was heavy around us

05:50:14.700 we're walking through the tall grass we find this area it's kind of beat down we find this moose

05:50:25.220 carcass that's been eaten off of and there's bear scat all around and we're aware that there's a

05:50:39.300 a grizzly or a brown bear that's also out moose hunting that got one.

05:50:48.440 And there's never been a time in my life that I was more hyper-aware that there were eyes on me.

05:51:01.240 And so we kind of look at each other, and we're locked and loaded just in case.

05:51:07.080 and we're walking and it was very apparent even though we couldn't see

05:51:16.640 that there was another hunter that was aware of our presence

05:51:23.280 that was very very close to us and i can't really articulate that if you haven't been in the

05:51:32.320 situation. I can't make it, you know, I can't logically debate it to you. But I think if we

05:51:42.100 would have acted wrong at any particular in that area, really bad things would have happened to

05:51:53.260 us really quick um so i felt that with a wild animal

05:52:03.100 the other in the third instance i've mentioned this on the program before

05:52:10.380 but it was when i was on a little bit more serious this is probably about a year later on a moose hunt

05:52:16.620 with my at that time father-in-law

05:52:22.860 and a group of really experienced hunters when we went out in the middle of the alaskan wilderness

05:52:34.520 it was really cool so we drove up out of anchorage towards eureka which if you're

05:52:42.540 looking at Google Maps or whatever, plot it out, figure it out, kind of in the middle of nowhere.

05:52:49.620 And then we went off road and we went across a river to where there's water on our feet

05:52:59.180 running through this truck. We went out in the middle of nowhere. So we took off the highway

05:53:07.980 near eureka and we went out in the middle of uncharted lands we forded rivers and we did all

05:53:20.420 kind of stuff getting through it it was really cool but it was in 2009 when swine flu was coming

05:53:27.920 through so i was really really sick i didn't know till we got out there but i had gotten the swine

05:53:35.700 so i was really feverish and sick and it was kind of a miserable time for me but it was really cool

05:53:41.860 because we're in the middle of nowhere we'd gone out on this hunt and i think it was about five

05:53:49.940 guys other than myself that were very experienced hunters this is my first really serious moose hunt

05:53:58.260 i'd be on with my grandfather's rifle it's a husqvarna 30-06

05:54:05.940 a lot of people think they only make chainsaws and whatever but apparently

05:54:09.540 in the mid 70s they also make rifles um

05:54:17.140 yes we're out there in the middle of nowhere it was toward the end of moose season

05:54:21.620 my friend and i the friend that i mentioned earlier um shout out to my homie sean ridland

05:54:31.900 i haven't talked man i haven't talked to this guy in decades

05:54:35.700 there's a guy named sean ridland he lived in wasilla alaska he was a guy that i think

05:54:43.600 was originally from jacksonville florida

05:54:45.960 really cool guy

05:54:50.360 had a lot of early

05:54:54.580 interaction with

05:54:56.300 he had

05:54:58.380 some of the

05:55:00.320 as a side note for a second

05:55:04.440 again blame it on

05:55:06.720 pirate water

05:55:07.460 so side note is this

05:55:10.620 there were

05:55:14.060 three of these idols that were made in the very early days of Al-Satru and I'm trying to remember

05:55:24.820 the guys made them. It was a Thor idol, a Freyr idol, and an Odin idol that was made.

05:55:37.340 And these may well have been the oldest god carvings in Vinland.

05:55:44.060 And I was told the Odin idol was given to Steve MacNallan.

05:55:51.460 But through whatever machinations had happened, this guy, Sean, he had the Freyr idol and the Thor idol.

05:56:05.480 And he would tend these, he would keep them in a spot of respect in his house.

05:56:11.220 He would, you know, every so often attend to them with linseed oil

05:56:17.700 or whatever else to preserve them and take care of them.

05:56:22.460 They were really cool, and you could tell there was a power in them

05:56:26.420 because they were old and venerated.

05:56:32.480 And I will remember it at some point, middle of the night,

05:56:37.300 some random point, it will occur to me.

05:56:39.280 I wish I could remember him right now, the name of the guy who carved these.

05:56:45.880 But Svan, or not Svan, I'm sorry, Sean and his wife, and he had two, a son and a daughter.

05:56:57.220 It was neat that I got to practice this with them a little bit.

05:57:01.060 And this was in a time before I was a member of the AFA when they were trying to get me to be part of the Asatru Folk Revival.

05:57:14.840 And this was a group that was being started.

05:57:18.340 I would have been part of the big three, and it would have been Sean Ridland, myself, and run by Wyatt Caldenberg.

05:57:29.540 and anybody who doesn't know he's the guy that way back when broke heraldo's nose

05:57:36.820 on a famous episode of the heraldo show

05:57:42.100 and i haven't heard about why in a really long time hope he's doing well he was a real nice

05:57:48.100 guy when i did speak to him but anyway this was back then so i would say this was like 2008 2009

05:57:58.580 Um, and we'd gone on this moose hunt. So, so Sean Ridland went on his hunt. I went on my hunt. Before we went on the hunt, we did bloat to Warren Uller. We asked for success. And I remember I offered into Sean's on his property is his, his ritual tree is ornament tree is whatever you want to call it. I had offered this customized

05:58:28.580 bible that i got as a jehovah's witness when i was baptized

05:58:33.620 so special and had my name embossed on it it was nice and i offered that to lord uller

05:58:43.060 and we did we did this offering for uller bloat at winter finding and then we went out and we did

05:58:49.220 our respective hunts and he and i had both been on different moose hunts here and there to see

05:58:55.860 what happened it never got me so i went out and i uh like i said i went with about five guys

05:59:06.020 who were very experienced hunters and here i am the rookie and i'm feverish with swine flu and i'm

05:59:14.340 ridiculous embarrassment to myself just because i'm feverish and out of my mind

05:59:20.820 we go out there in the middle of nowhere um we're there for like a week

05:59:28.500 and though we hadn't gotten anything we were scoping up the mountain uh one of the members

05:59:34.740 of our party got a caribou and that was really cool if you guys don't know anything caribou

05:59:41.460 are like caribou and reindeer are the same animal um one of the other members of the hunting party

05:59:49.060 had gotten a caribou and i helped him dress that out and that was cool and a good experience

05:59:56.980 we were sitting there but the old timers and old timers at some of these things

06:00:02.340 are just amazingly impressive with their wilderness lore and their ability to sight these things

06:00:10.740 so we're in the middle of nowhere and we're scoping from the bottom of this riverbed we're

06:00:16.420 scoping up these hillsides and within one like swing of the scope we could see moose up on a hill

06:00:28.420 and bear and um doll sheep and mountain goats up on this one hill you could it was

06:00:38.100 stuff that people who weren't in alaska would just do an aw over but that was fairly common

06:00:47.620 in alaska when you were off the beaten path one of the blessings of being born and raised there

06:00:55.780 so we saw these and the idea was we would scope them and we saw because the bull moose were in

06:01:02.100 ruts they'd fight and then they'd come down in these valleys so we'd see them up on the hillside

06:01:07.300 and see them when they start coming down to get water to get food to get whatever

06:01:14.420 so in order to take a moose in this game management unit it had to be a certain distance

06:01:22.500 the rack had to be a certain distance long or it had to have a certain number of brow times

06:01:28.260 and to illustrate if i had thought about it and i hadn't i would walk downstairs and i'd give you

06:01:40.620 a picture of the moose rack i have um but anyways so we had to interpret this but these old timers

06:01:48.840 like this dude and i don't know how old he is i don't even know if he's still alive at this point

06:01:53.140 These guys, like, in his 70s, he's not actively hunting.

06:01:57.100 He's just down there cooking and sighting.

06:02:00.120 And he sees this guy up the mountain, and he's, I mean, miles away.

06:02:04.940 He's like, I think this guy's about the right, you know, right distance.

06:02:09.920 This guy's legal.

06:02:10.900 Go for it.

06:02:13.860 Anyways, before that point, we sat there for about a week before the closing of moose season.

06:02:19.960 this young bull obviously didn't have enough brow tines his antler spread wasn't big enough

06:02:28.040 it's as if he knew he walked right through our campsite teasing us because he's like you can't

06:02:38.500 shoot me and he walked right through the middle of our campsite but we hadn't gotten a moose that

06:02:45.960 That was our big thing we were going for because a moose dresses out it, I mean, easily.

06:02:51.620 If you're not really trying hard, at least 400 pounds of meat, those of you who haven't

06:02:59.940 dealt with moose, they're, I mean, a bull is 1,500 pounds.

06:03:07.160 They're about, they're big guys.

06:03:11.180 they're deer but they're deer that are the size of cows so this young bull walks through

06:03:20.860 just in our face that we can't shoot it whatever it is the last day of uh moose season

06:03:29.200 you can't use artificial light so the sun was going down on the very last day

06:03:38.240 Old-timer spots this bull coming down the belt.

06:03:41.520 He's like, all right, I see him.

06:03:42.940 Let's go get him.

06:03:44.900 They're like, Matt, you've got swine flu.

06:03:48.040 You're a rookie. 1.00

06:03:49.200 You suck. 1.00

06:03:50.300 Here, we'll give you the lamest spot. 1.00

06:03:53.360 Just sit here.

06:03:54.260 Try not to die.

06:03:55.820 Let us know if you need something on the walkie-talkie.

06:03:59.280 All right.

06:04:00.000 And I'm stripping off my jacket and everything else.

06:04:03.100 I'm overheating.

06:04:03.980 i'm got and i remember it to this day i have this yellow um shirt on it was comfy for me

06:04:14.100 i really like bulldogs at the time i had this bulldog named piper the english bulldog

06:04:19.160 he was awesome he's a really good dog but so they got me this shirt whatever some kind of

06:04:25.580 brand but the bulldog was logo and i had this yellow shirt on i took off my jacket took off

06:04:30.840 everything tried to be as let the air in as much as possible because i'm i'm delirious with fever

06:04:39.800 and i'm on this hillside where this ravine is running down the middle and where this

06:04:44.440 moose would come down and get water so i'm out there and i'm out on my mind i'm looking up the

06:04:52.680 hill like where's this moose where is he coming from i don't know i'm sick just let me die so

06:05:00.840 Looking for this moose coming down.

06:05:05.300 Next thing you know, behind me, I hear this grunt.

06:05:10.740 I'm like, what?

06:05:12.180 Anyways, I'm still looking up the hill.

06:05:14.760 I hear a grunt again.

06:05:17.120 I'm looking up the hill, seeing where the grunt's coming from.

06:05:20.980 Third time, I hear this loud grunt.

06:05:25.020 so i turn around coming up from the bottom is bull moose i see him

06:05:33.160 and he's looking straight at me

06:05:37.000 and then he squares up so anybody who knows about hunting the idea is the best spot to shoot a moose 0.81

06:05:46.660 you're looking for it to broadside you and then you want to shoot like at its armpit 0.56

06:05:54.580 and that's going to hit heart and lungs and be the kill shot. 0.99

06:06:00.120 So this bull is staring at me.

06:06:03.520 And again, this is during a rut.

06:06:05.460 So this bull is going to be hyper-aggressive.

06:06:08.680 He's ready to fight with me to see who's going to mate with his lady and do whatever.

06:06:14.540 So he's like squared up going to fight with me.

06:06:17.560 I'm out of my mind delirious and miss the first three grunts at me he looks at me when he makes

06:06:28.760 eye contact he immediately turns broadside he's probably 20 foot away from me

06:06:37.080 normal moose behavior like that if he's a bull like that he's gonna at least

06:06:42.440 false charge me to scare me no he serenely turns broadside

06:06:50.280 gives me a side he stands there grunts again and waits for me

06:06:56.360 so i shot him um as far as i could tell a good shot right where i'm supposed to

06:07:05.560 and i went over and i stood over him when he fell and he was there and he was

06:07:09.880 letting out his last breaths and i thanked him and i stood with him until he passed

06:07:17.500 right you know i radioed guys they heard gunshots whatever

06:07:21.380 i got the moose that year we all shared the shared the meat delicious by the way if you

06:07:28.720 haven't had moose it's amazing but that was absolutely a gift from uler i don't know that

06:07:37.260 it has anything to do with did i tame wild animals it's the closest thing that i could put though to

06:07:44.780 this and i think it was really significant um i have his antlers down you know i say downstairs

06:07:54.380 in between upstairs and downstairs i have his antlers mounted um

06:07:59.100 Um, but yeah, that wasn't because I'm an awesome hunter by any possible stretch of the imagination.

06:08:07.680 I very much believe that was a gift from, from the ruler.

06:08:12.340 Um, the closest I've got, I don't know if that helps.

06:08:18.020 I think animals can tell a lot about us on the kind of people we are and how we interact

06:08:25.640 with dogs and other stuff is a really interesting tell on who we are i know it's always a good

06:08:33.880 judge of character to see how dogs interact with someone to kind of judge whether you think they're 0.92

06:08:39.400 good people or not i say that just because they're dogs they could be jerks but i think that the 0.86

06:08:47.080 standard line they're picking up one they deal with communication on a very different level 0.94

06:08:55.960 than we do as people they pick up on things that we don't and so i think that that's a good

06:09:04.360 indication about people closest I've got on that next question I have if you guys

06:09:18.160 met any folkish McPagans what is to be done when we meet such a person Swan I

06:09:26.740 don't know if you saw the side chat where they kind of broke down what they

06:09:32.980 meant by mcpagans so where are you at do you understand where you go with this i did not see

06:09:42.900 mcpagans

06:09:47.700 it's kind of the generic pagans don't know what they're talking about we want to claim they're

06:09:52.500 pagans i've never met but the caveat is that they're folkish which i don't think we see from

06:10:01.460 in that crowd as often? Yeah, no, I've never met. I think the closest I've ever met is just

06:10:10.740 a general, they don't like, you know, internet ninnies that try to control people's speech.

06:10:20.940 And so they're more along the lines of like, I don't, you know, I'm not going to say something

06:10:28.260 or I'm not going to be held liable for other people's feelings because of words.

06:10:35.540 I've met a couple of people who are more of that mindset

06:10:38.560 where they were just like of the McPagan group, I guess,

06:10:43.520 but they were not going to play the whole gender smorgasbord

06:10:51.960 or speaking about an individual person as if they're like a crowd.

06:10:56.660 And they're just like, I'm not going to do that

06:11:00.660 And that was kind of cool, a little refreshing

06:11:02.800 At least they stood their ground on that, but never really folkish

06:11:07.160 But the McPagan thing, that's a new one for me

06:11:10.980 So, and this is kind of an innovative take on it

06:11:18.420 Um, I have met quite a few skinheads that are also true because you're supposed to be, but don't possess a sincere faith in our gods,

06:11:41.740 but are also true because if you're not on the inside, you get stabbed, to be honest.

06:11:59.600 And I think that is the closest I can go on this. 0.84

06:12:04.320 So I had, I've done some prison ministry visits to a facility out in California, and it's been interesting because 100% of the white inmates showed up to my Ausitru bloke. 0.78

06:12:34.320 And it was communicated to me that 0.96

06:12:41.120 that's because that's how it's supposed to be.

06:12:46.120 And if anybody deviated from that,

06:12:50.960 they would fix that so that's not the case next time.

06:12:54.720 which is cool. I'm glad I got the attendance.

06:13:09.160 So that was, okay, so putting that out there, that was an interesting experience for me.

06:13:15.440 I'm not from that subculture. I've never been arrested. I've never been prosecuted with

06:13:24.080 crime i've never been incarcerated i don't that's not the life i've lived

06:13:34.240 so when i went in to do prison ministry i didn't know what to expect

06:13:42.560 again i had no familiarity with that so i went in and

06:13:47.760 And I'm positively surprised.

06:13:55.220 I was not made to feel uncomfortable at all.

06:13:58.320 Everyone was very respectful and treated me very well.

06:14:04.160 And I felt very safe in the environment that I was in.

06:14:09.280 And I've done this, you know, I think three times now.

06:14:12.100 and I come to understand in a different way people post that meme that people don't act

06:14:27.520 right because people don't drink out of other people's skulls anymore I forget how that actually

06:14:34.740 the meme goes down but basically i'm under the impression that in the circumstance i was in

06:14:44.340 there was an expected code of conduct and there wasn't a lot of in between there was

06:14:51.060 you either acted correctly or life-threatening consequences occurred if you didn't

06:14:58.260 and it was interesting very informative because people acted very correctly and

06:15:09.060 very appropriately because that was the situation i was in which was really nice

06:15:16.020 um but when you say mcpagans no because that i think of

06:15:24.020 silly universalist kids that watch charmed or some nonsense but when i think of it in a

06:15:36.580 skinhead next con context there's guys that knew that christianity wasn't a noble faith for our 0.94

06:15:46.740 folk, but I don't think they have yet to or had yet to embrace Ausitru as a sincere religious

06:15:57.160 expression, but more as a cultural identification because Christianity wasn't meeting those needs.

06:16:06.900 i would say that that was the case so in any scenario the question was when you encounter

06:16:19.380 folkish mcpagans which the closest i've seen were the skinhead slash ex-con guys

06:16:27.320 what would i suggest

06:16:31.000 it's the same that i would suggest for most situations is that you

06:16:39.060 role model and i this is another i suppose a theme for the evening

06:16:47.880 is non-verbal communication people can tell if you are emotionally

06:16:58.920 spiritually invested in what you're doing or if you're not

06:17:05.800 i am very invested when i invoke our gods in bloat or when i speak about

06:17:16.520 my ancestors and assemble so in a prison setting i've done three bloats and three samples

06:17:27.340 and especially during this last year i've been very emotional especially during some

06:17:35.840 because when we're in the ancestors round

06:17:39.980 to raise a horn to my mom

06:17:44.460 I mentioned earlier in the broadcast

06:17:49.100 but she passed in April

06:17:51.540 and so

06:17:56.660 I hope that the people who were there

06:18:00.200 understood that I take this

06:18:03.400 very seriously

06:18:05.180 because I'm talking to my gods

06:18:09.680 I'm talking to my mom and I hope they can feel that I think they can so when dealing with anyone

06:18:22.700 who approaches this no matter how close they are or not if they're fair-minded and giving it a

06:18:33.400 reasonable shot, the best thing that I would always suggest is to role model and to fully

06:18:43.060 experience OstraTru in their presence so that they can see what you're doing

06:18:49.880 and understand at the very minimum that you take this very seriously.

06:18:57.560 And I think that will stick with them and help for them to approach this seriously, if that makes sense.

06:19:14.440 Next question.

06:19:16.720 Gentlemen, any updates on Thorfinn Carlsefne?

06:19:22.020 First house true settler in Vinland.

06:19:24.000 No concrete evidence of him being a Christian in the sagas.

06:19:28.200 Matt said he will get to the bottom of this.

06:19:30.480 Thanks.

06:19:31.420 So you're calling me out, so I'm going to answer first.

06:19:35.380 No, I really tried to look into it.

06:19:38.840 I don't see any reason not to celebrate Thorfinn, and I do, and I'm good for him.

06:19:49.460 I don't know if we're at the point of honoring him with a day of remembrance

06:19:55.260 Because that's a church specific holiday

06:20:00.180 And I don't know that he was like the pillar of Alcetru

06:20:03.120 But I also have no reason to believe that he forsook our gods

06:20:07.900 Or that he embraced Christianity

06:20:09.820 As far as I know

06:20:12.580 He was a bold and daring Alcetru explorer

06:20:17.860 in the crew of

06:20:21.140 Leith

06:20:25.580 and that he was

06:20:28.180 amongst the first group of

06:20:30.820 Alistair True Settlers in the New World

06:20:32.800 and I celebrate him because

06:20:34.840 I have no reason not to

06:20:37.000 until I know anything different

06:20:39.280 Hail Thorfinn

06:20:41.280 what a fantastic

06:20:43.300 achievement for a man of our fold

06:20:45.420 to do

06:20:45.920 it's fine. Do you have any thoughts on Mr. Carl Stephanie and his celebration or lack thereof?

06:20:56.640 Well, I mean, again, you brought up a great point about in relation to religious

06:21:02.200 conviction. I mean, certainly did a, I mean, he's still, I don't know, he's connected,

06:21:13.560 I guess, like, Leif gets the win, if you will, for some odd reason.

06:21:22.840 But, I mean, clearly, I think we could, it would be good for us to perhaps focus on him

06:21:32.140 or bring him up in relation to the discovery of Vinland and Newfoundland and Markland

06:21:45.840 and give him his proper receivings of that because I think that it wouldn't be right

06:21:53.600 if we just focused on the negativity of Leif Erikson because we speak about that quite often

06:21:58.980 about not focusing on what we are not or of that nature.

06:22:04.920 So, yeah, I mean, I think deed-wise clearly deserves respect,

06:22:14.800 especially crossing over all of that and also being of our faith

06:22:19.740 and not turning his back and, you know, breaking his family apart.

06:22:26.180 But religiosity-wise, I mean, I wonder at what level.

06:22:30.400 I think he would be considered more a hero or at least a testament to bravery

06:22:35.460 and perhaps ways that we should try to emulate for sure.

06:22:40.740 But religious-wise, I don't know.

06:22:56.180 so all right i see nick mentioned oversight over to the side about how great the craft was

06:23:05.620 as a movie i don't know about all that uh sandra bullock and nicole kidman

06:23:11.140 not bad looking ladies so i will support it in uh in that regard um

06:23:18.580 yeah it's been a long one tonight i know 1.00

06:23:23.980 oh oh no that's what's her face she is she's freaky looking what's that chick's name she's

06:23:36.940 really really oddly you're right i am absolutely that was the best though that like the unironic 0.60

06:23:44.080 yeah um adam sandler's girlfriend from uh the the thing yeah from water boy anyway she's not

06:23:53.900 bad looking either so i'll put that out there um i appreciate the correction though well done 1.00

06:24:01.420 well played either way hot chicks are always awesome as a as a general rule 1.00

06:24:08.380 in a vacuum without any other thing go on um the the craft is all of those things

06:24:16.060 so what's funny is joking aside all of those

06:24:26.540 all of those things have brought people to this it's really easy to look down and to make fun

06:24:35.580 but people have come to also true from

06:24:39.100 the skinhead scene from role-playing games from black metal music from wiccan girls watching

06:24:54.760 movies with girls doing girl magic stuff from people have come to this from a variety of 0.58

06:25:04.300 different places in a vacuum a lot of them seem silly and are easy to poke fun at but if they

06:25:12.860 brought our folk home that's the important thing and i'm really glad for all of our people that

06:25:21.980 have come home even if they came home in a way that seems silly um you'll hear me a lot of the

06:25:29.100 time on this program seemingly talk disparagingly about the goofiness of

06:25:38.180 80s and 90s ausentrude, no, I'm a fanboy of that.

06:25:44.000 If I wasn't, I wouldn't be here.

06:25:47.340 I'm here because I was a fanboy of that.

06:25:50.880 I can look back and see the ways that we've evolved and celebrate those.

06:25:59.100 but I get it, and I don't want anybody who listens to this to not understand.

06:26:09.140 We're all, and this is one of the hardest things.

06:26:12.340 I try to get Steve, our founder, Stephen Nallin, to talk about the good old days.

06:26:18.080 oftentimes he doesn't want to because from his perspective

06:26:25.100 it's silly things he did as a young man that are embarrassing

06:26:30.380 without him taking those steps as a young man of course as a man in the 70s

06:26:38.740 he can see all the ways they were imperfect and imperfect as they might be

06:26:47.280 they're what brought this to us we would not be doing this in 2023 i would not be staying up all

06:26:58.620 right on wednesday the you know now the 14th of december in 2023 if it wasn't from those things

06:27:11.140 that he may cringe at that were essential steps to get us where we are and i hope that we make it

06:27:18.820 so far that when i look back on nonsense that matt did in 2023 when he's drinking his

06:27:26.660 cheap walmart pirate water and whatever i hope we're always advancing so much that we can look

06:27:37.540 back and scoff at the things we did previous but this is our history and this is what brought us

06:27:48.820 to where we are and i celebrate that whatever it was that brought you here to our program tonight

06:27:57.140 i'm genuinely thankful for it whatever that brought spawn and i here

06:28:04.100 it may be silly or ridiculous whatever else but i'm thankful for it and i'm glad for it

06:28:14.120 um that's our last question of the night uh spawn thank you so much for being

06:28:22.740 on here with me um i got spawn on a really important mission over this next week i'm hoping

06:28:32.480 that this time next week i've got something really cool to tell you guys about if i don't

06:28:40.100 i'll probably have something cool to tell you about the following week but i'm hoping i've got

06:28:44.940 it this time next week we're working on a little something behind the scenes that we're very proud

06:28:51.820 of an excited about so i hope i can talk to you guys about that a little bit next week and uh

06:28:56.780 throwing the football first fawn to catch and run it to the end zone on this one

06:29:02.620 so we should have something pretty exciting to talk about next time um

06:29:08.220 either way we're gonna have yule to talk about next time the next time i talk to you guys

06:29:13.660 in this format is going to be mother's night so i'm looking forward to that i hope

06:29:19.340 and I mean this with all my heart I hope everybody here is able to surround

06:29:27.580 themselves with friends and family and folk to celebrate Yule this year it is a

06:29:34.580 magical beautiful and amazing time whether you're surrounded by friends and

06:29:43.200 family or you're all by yourself, invite the gods in this Yule. Celebrate with our gods because our

06:29:52.540 gods are your gods. Celebrate with them. And if anybody here in this is in a bad place in their

06:30:05.560 life like i said this is the best time of year for people who are women

06:30:12.120 but if you're in a broken marriage broken family if you're a broken person

06:30:18.040 at this time we all go through times where we're broken

06:30:22.920 if you're feeling that this holiday season please reach out to us

06:30:27.080 us um reach out to any of our go far reach out to me m flavell f-l-a-v-e-l at runestone.org

06:30:39.720 or um and i'm gonna put it in the chat if it'll go in

06:30:46.200 my phone number i kept my alaska number because i can't remember new numbers because i'm like that

06:31:01.120 907-350-8252 please call me i would love to talk to you not pretending that i can

06:31:11.320 wave a magic wand and make it all better. I can't. But it's Yule. And I care. I'm here.

06:31:19.480 I'm listening. We're your fault. Share it with us. So I hope you guys have a really good night.

06:31:25.420 I hope you guys have an amazing Yule. Look forward to talking to you in a week.

06:31:30.300 Thank you for joining us tonight, Svon. And Nick, despite the echo nonsense,

06:31:37.640 Since, as obnoxious as that is to me and Svan and the listeners, I know that is more obnoxious to you.

06:31:46.020 And I also know that I would have no idea how to fix it.

06:31:50.020 So thank you for producing this program and all that you do.

06:31:54.240 We appreciate you.

06:31:56.840 Until next time, hail the gods, hail the folk, hail the anything.

06:32:07.640 We'll be right back.

06:32:37.640 We'll be right back.

06:33:07.640 Thank you.

06:33:37.640 We'll be right back.

06:34:07.640 We'll be right back.

06:34:37.640 Thank you.

06:35:07.640 Amen.

Asatru Folk Assembly - December 14, 2023

12⧸13⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 75 - Þorrablót

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