00:05:12.700um of course here on uh youtube sorry i'm trying to get it uh to load and start over on entropy
00:05:25.200which is going to be the next one i was going to mention also so you guys know we are
00:05:30.300as always this is released as a podcast on fridays on spotify so that's a another way to
00:05:41.920another way to access it um but yeah um oh also twitch which i'm not very familiar with
00:05:55.260but we are on twitch as well and you know we've been thinking about where's best
00:06:02.540to have it a little bit and wondering a little bit about our vk presence but something kind of cool
00:06:08.620happened i know it's been a few weeks ago now but we actually got a uh a russian member from vk that
00:06:19.900saw us on there and decided they wanted to be a part of what we're doing
00:06:24.700So that was, yeah, as my lovely wife mentioned over in the chat room, please make sure to like and share and do a little thumbs up thing.
00:06:36.140And if you guys can, seriously, that's a way if you like what we're doing, if you enjoy it, if you think it's either entertaining or informative or hopefully a little bit of both,
00:06:47.840both help us get that in front of um eyes and ears that may not already already be familiar
00:06:55.600with it that's kind of a perennial struggle that we deal with figuring out how to how to best handle
00:07:03.840but a whole lot of people out there in the world that ought to be with us a whole lot of people
00:07:10.240out in the world that i think would like to be with us trouble is getting out of our own small
00:07:15.840circles and getting those people to know that we exist is a huge part of of the struggle for the
00:07:22.160soul of our folk so you guys can absolutely help in that we appreciate if you do um
00:07:32.400don't think there's any big news since last time um may have something cool to announce
00:07:41.680next time a week from today i'm looking forward to that but we'll we'll see stay tuned um
00:07:51.200without any further ado swan uh iceland's own swan harold tell us about thorablo oh yeah i i i've
00:08:04.800I've met quite a few Icelanders who have said to me I am not Icelandic, mainly because I've been in America since I was a child, so it's kind of funny.
00:08:34.800I don't know, chat room. I'm working on it. I'm not sure if you guys can hear me.
00:08:54.320I'm hoping that it's being dealt with. I can see you guys. I get that it's a thing.
00:09:02.320Hopefully, we're getting it taken care of here.
00:09:04.800okay if you guys can hear me then it's something on spawns in no problem
00:09:16.480we will get him back up and running uh shortly hopefully um
00:09:23.940ah so i'm trying to think of what to do to kill time a little bit because
00:09:29.500Svon talking about this particular thing is definitely his deal and something I would like
00:09:38.100to get him to lay the groundwork on. So hopefully we're getting that a little bit squared away.
00:09:48.660Coming up a week from today is going to be the official start of the 12 days of Yule,
00:15:37.940I think you guys all probably heard a little bit of that.
00:15:41.320Hopefully we got it squared away when he comes back.
00:15:45.440I think he will add to the conversation quite a bit tonight.
00:15:48.940But if he doesn't, then we'll carry on and talk about Thorobloat otherwise.
00:15:59.280He's laying a little bit of the foundation for us.
00:16:02.420But one thing, and I don't think this is a huge spoiler for those of you who are coming to this with any, any recent knowledge, but, or not recent, any subject matter knowledge, people who are brand new may be confused and not realize this, but Thor bloat is not an ancient holiday.
00:16:25.880We have no pretense that it was or that it is.
00:16:31.700I'm not even sure that Thorobloat itself is as old as the modern practice since the reforging of Alcetru, as it were.
00:16:44.460But it is a special time to celebrate.
00:16:48.960it's certainly culturally relevant and it's a it's a fun time to get together
00:16:54.060with our folk and our guys during the month of January and so that's that's
00:17:01.720why we do it and it's something that's been practiced in modern house to true
00:17:05.400quite some time so yeah it's a it's a really interesting interesting one and
00:17:12.840it's I think spawn was going to go into the the roots of it but it's it's very
00:17:17.220much a cultural celebration for the icelanders but in a an important way that follows with our
00:17:28.340apparently they're saying that i have an echo now um
00:17:40.500okay all right so disregard everything i just said apparently it is on our end
00:17:46.180but should be good when Svahn pops back on.
00:18:01.160If and when Svahn pops back on, it's been a minute.
00:26:03.280So Sfaun is low. Okay. So I want to answer what would seem to be a Sfaun-centered question,
00:26:11.600but I can't because I happen to know. So a question, hey Sfaun, I live in Maryland,
00:26:16.560unfortunately, but I drive trucks and make deliveries all throughout Virginia.
00:26:21.320I love it down there. A lot of good people. What area of Virginia are you located?
00:26:27.140swan is in virginia beach we also have a folk builder um david rother who's in
00:26:39.780couldn't tell you the town off the top of my head but he's very close to washington dc
00:26:45.140so we have got some good folks in in the state of virginia
00:26:50.020um not sure with your trucking if that's the only place you go but
00:26:56.320uh you should check in with your local folk builder and and or any of us honestly and if you
00:27:04.460I don't know I think that truckers have an interesting opportunity that they don't take
00:27:10.500advantage of enough and I know that sometimes folks are on really tight deadlines I get it
00:27:14.540But we've got great people in a lot of places, and I think that if we looked into it, our
00:27:21.380folks that drive truck would find that they are very often very close to and in an opportunity
00:27:28.360to meet up with some really, really good folks.
00:27:31.240So I've put that out there and let folks know we maybe can arrange something like that.
00:27:43.260we've got we've got some other questions and i'll get to some of the ones i'd like spawn to chime
00:27:48.940in on if and when we can get them uh nick another idea if we can't do it another way is to route
00:27:56.060spawn through with voice call if we have to go that route so consider that while you're looking
00:28:02.540at alternatives um but i'm seeing some other questions pop up here and i think they're worth
00:28:10.380talking about um wolf throne asks if we would consider doing vns episodes on lore from the
00:28:21.580etta kind of like you did with the gilfaggening episode yeah but you know what i'd like to go more
00:28:27.820in depth we talked a lot about generalities on the gilfaggening but i think i think we will do
00:28:34.540that again and what i think we'll do like i mentioned earlier is actually read chunks at a
00:28:40.140time and analyze get into those answer any questions on those and kind of go through it
00:28:47.100piece by piece i think that's a really fruitful way for us to do this so i think that's something
00:28:51.900we're definitely going to do um and uh yeah dave's in uh in alexandria if you don't see that in chat
00:29:00.140rumor if you're listening to this uh and that's drother at d-r-o-t-h-e-r at runestone.org if you
00:29:10.060want to get in touch with him or if you want to get in touch with swan about visiting him in virginia
00:29:15.420near uh like i said he's in virginia beach it's s h-e-r-u-l at runestone.org
00:29:25.180and Svon can try to get that set up all right so Svon if you recall where you were at or you can
00:29:48.200start fresh because you were trying to legitimize yourself as an Icelander when we ran into all the
00:29:53.160problems so uh i don't know maybe maybe change change gears on that if that is the source of
00:30:02.760our difficulties and uh tell folks about thorablo okay can you hear me now i certainly can but i've
00:30:11.320heard you pretty good most of this time yeah chat are we getting an echo or can you hear me
00:30:17.080yes says chat okay excellent um so yeah i was gonna i was gonna say i saw some of the other
00:30:35.560questions um i know that people were looking uh you know for me i'm not i don't i know somebody
00:30:41.700made a joke and said, Ooh, that's a glowy question, but, um, I'm not, I don't hide.
00:30:46.680You know, like you can find me. Um, uh, if you just reach out through the, uh, email,
00:30:53.820I'll get up with you. We can, you know, meet up, uh, have an impromptu moot, if you will.
00:31:00.540Um, big thing though, I would say is if you have the ability to get down to North Carolina and get
00:31:05.740to Thor's off, then that's good too. You know, that would be, uh, far more ideal, but, um,
00:31:12.200okay. Svan is good, but Thor is better. Yes. Yes. Very much so. Um, the, uh, one of the things
00:31:23.460about Thorblot that I was going to talk about was that you got to understand Thorblot as an
00:31:28.680Icelandic national holiday that's celebrated by Icelanders all over. And then there's
00:31:35.300Thoroblot of Ausatru. And it's because Ausatru is, again, bringing it towards the religious
00:31:44.380connotation. I think that it was originally kind of intended. It's worth noting that Thoroblot
00:31:51.280itself is actually a modern holiday in the sense that it came around in the early 19th century
00:31:59.820during the time that Iceland was battling like legally for its validation as an independent
00:32:12.440nation. And that, that really started in the late 18, like 1890s. And then early in the turn
00:32:20.680of the century, Denmark and Iceland were doing kind of like a shared legality. And then with
00:32:29.200the onset of the war in World War II, England occupied Iceland and so did America. They sent
00:32:39.200troops there. And it was kind of just seen as more a, I think, a tactical move. And then this
00:32:50.760was, of course, with the occupation of Denmark. So when Denmark got occupied, this threw a lot
00:32:58.080things up in the air and there was um some nationalist movements in um iceland at the time
00:33:07.280and uh they uh there was a lot of nationalism just kind of brewing in general all over the world and
00:33:16.560iceland was no and i think that out of that was what bore the true origins of thorold as far as
00:33:25.360a modern day because they were trying to uh gain footholds in um i guess ethnic identity
00:33:39.120and they naturally went to uh kind of religious and ethnic folk faith mixed with modern concepts
00:33:50.240of like, get togethers and having a party. And of course, it was, you know, heavily bent around
00:33:56.000food and the national foods of Iceland that helped the Icelanders survive. So you have these,
00:34:03.960you know, it's like it's 1944 to like 1950 is when Thorobloot really started to form itself
00:34:10.960as an Icelandic holiday. And it was built heavily around the pride of all of the techniques and food
00:34:17.800preparations that Icelanders had. And I don't think it's, um, I don't think it's like, uh,
00:34:23.840by accident, uh, partially, I mean, obviously feasts are still feasts, but, uh, Iceland had
00:34:29.580struggles with food production and with, um, a lot of modern amenities of food were not able to,
00:34:38.640um, feed the Icelanders. And so it was kind of like a call back to like, Hey, remember our
00:34:45.200ancestors survived by these techniques, by these food, uh, methods of smoking and, and, um, salting
00:34:52.860and pressing. And so it was kind of like a call to arms to, for the folk to remember, um, their
00:35:01.680old ways, because a lot of modern stuff was really heavily dependent on shipping. So, um, yeah, they,
00:35:11.380started the holiday right around that time. But as far as Ausitru goes, it becomes slightly
00:35:23.300different. Ausitru in its early formative years in the late 70s and early 80s, I think was
00:35:34.220trying to pull from a broad spectrum of European celebrations.
00:35:45.800And Thorablot, the fact that the word blot is even used, is important.
00:35:51.400So I think that that naturally got the attention of people that are Ausatru.
00:35:56.320And, you know, I think that even locally in Iceland, with Sven Björn Vjartansson and the Austatru Felliev in the beginning, or what it would eventually become, and just people like the Odinik Rite and the Austatru Free Assembly and practitioners and writers were pulling things where they had, for instance, like, you know, Thoroblok,
00:36:24.900But then they would have like either Ostra or like Hexenacht or, you know, they were pulling a charming of the plow or the Akerbot was a heavy influence.
00:36:36.980And so it was kind of gravitated towards and scooped into because of two things.
00:36:43.320One, the the origins of the month 40 in the Icelandic calendar is up to debate.
00:36:52.060A lot of people think that it may have been named after an actual person, but no one can quite figure that out because Tori is a name.
00:37:00.520And or that it has, you know, connections back to Thor and that the nationalists of Iceland that were starting Thoroblot kind of wanted to imply that but not kind of ruffle the feathers of the local Lutheran state church.
00:37:21.520church um i don't know icelanders are kind of funny when it comes to christianity in the state
00:37:26.460church of lutheranism um they had a problem with catholicism in the in the early points so when
00:37:32.040when the protestant movement started they they pretty much shifted to that pretty fast and i
00:37:36.400think that was because they just had a kind of a big problem with being led from abroad by a by a
00:37:42.920kingdom like norway or denmark and then that kingdom of course being religiously led by rome
00:37:49.400So it was kind of a – they wanted to separate and create their own unique space.
00:37:57.720And the other thing that's, I think, major to understand is that Thoroblot was named in the 19th century, but the practice of eating those fermented and stored meats of the time were important because it's a midwinter festival.
00:38:13.760and that's the food you have available because everything is built around prepping for the
00:38:19.200winter time and um in a way it was a it's a way to ensure that your neighbors who may have not
00:38:26.140had the ability to get food whether it was canned or shipped in from other countries
00:38:30.880it was kind of a way to ensure that everyone was you know getting together it was a chance
00:38:37.080for everyone to kind of check up on each other and get food and celebrate being Icelandic.
00:38:45.160But it shifts definitely more towards religious connotations in Ausatru. So we use the name the
00:38:53.360same, Thoroblot, but there's a clear connection to the striker, the storm father, Thor, that you
00:39:02.380might not find if you were to attend a Thorobloat at like an association. You know, the language
00:39:09.920being spoken, all the foods that are decked out, lots of foods that perhaps even now Icelanders
00:39:15.780abroad might not get a chance to eat often is going to be there. So it's a little reconnection
00:39:21.880to home and then a chance to network with people and to dance and to have a good time
00:39:27.980is kind of the overall meaning of it logistically.
00:39:34.280And I think that still applies to Thorblot in Ausatru.
00:39:37.620It is a midwinter celebration and a chance for us to get together
00:39:41.940and kind of shed off the doldrums of that kind of gap after Yule
00:39:46.920where not a lot is going on and things are changing
00:39:51.240and the new year, if you will, is kind of being focused on.
00:39:56.960So it's a chance in between late January, early February for us to get together and honor Thor and kind of, again, break off the cold and break off the restraints of being indoors and making sure that we reach out to community and build community under the auspices of food and feasting.
00:40:24.020And so now Thoroblot, I think you'll find people oftentimes bring more, not recipes like say from Iceland. I mean, I, you know, bring whatever I can or make, but other foods are present there from people's lineages.
00:40:40.240like if you know and you know if you're from minnesota there might be uh norwegian or german
00:40:45.360dishes um a lot of people kind of just pull from their own families their own grandma's recipes
00:40:52.560and things like that so it's it's all about really kind of connecting back to your your uh family
00:40:59.680dishes and um so now you know you might get everything from ukrainian food to um uh german
00:41:09.680food and polish food and english food and icelandic food or you know you know at least
00:41:15.920scandinavian in in its formation and so i think that's the overall along with giving devotion and
00:41:23.280thankfulness to thor and um again like shaking off that cold and and getting reset for the year so
00:41:31.280photo blood has become our first holiday after the new year um yeah
00:41:42.400there you go and honestly it doesn't have to be any more complicated than that um
00:41:50.480i think that's one thing i really enjoy about it it's not complicated it's straightforward
00:47:06.000And so, you know, to keep it authentic, something that folks like to do here is if they can find it, get the Rotten Shark and dare people to try a small piece of it and then wash it down with Brennivan, I think.
00:48:57.480so when you pull it it's it's shreddable and um i mean my mother used to always just eat like
00:49:04.040unsalted butter on it because it's salty enough as it is but she would just put like regular
00:49:08.600butter on it and we would get strips and just like chew on them and i mean it it makes your
00:49:12.760whole house smell like seafood like like fish but um much to my to the chagrin of of uh of my family
00:49:22.760especially my wife she she is not a uh she's from the mountains of um central united states and so
00:49:30.200like ocean going fish are not a major uh food staple there so she's just like oh take that
00:49:38.040outside because it just makes the whole house smell like like a fishmonger's market um but
00:49:45.480there's other things too a lot of a lot of um like hunker now i was looking up something about
00:49:52.120that because uh i don't get killed this is like a like a condensed smoked uh lamb and uh
00:50:02.760it's it's really really dense and you kind of cut it in it's like circular shape so you end up
00:50:07.800cutting it almost like a salami but not as thin and um uh apparently i i don't know if the icelanders
00:50:15.400are doing this or just people that are researching it but they they really try to hit some uh
00:50:19.800um, like as, as, as disgusting as they can get it. And the one thing that I saw that caught my eye
00:50:26.920was dung smoked. And I, uh, I think it's worth noting that, you know, the, the animal dung of
00:50:33.540olden times was used as a fuel, um, in a great amount, especially considering there's, there
00:50:39.460wasn't a lot of trees in Iceland. Um, that's changing. Things are getting a little better
00:50:43.800there um as they are cultivating and and kind of getting um bigger and you know uh more robust
00:50:51.220trees there um but you know they said dung smoked lamb and it's i remember when i was a kid that was
00:51:00.120never like a thing and i you know i was i i don't know if they i i try to look into that a little
00:51:05.740bit more if they still do it with dung or if they do it with imported woods now and things of that
00:51:12.020nature. So I was trying to find that and, and absolutely be able to clarify that that is,
00:51:17.160you know, a thing I'm sure there's probably, you know, people that are purists in Iceland that
00:51:22.040want to try to do it as like traditional as possible. So they're roasting something or
00:51:27.940smoking something, cooking something in general over feces sounds, sounds terrible, but I think
00:51:36.660it's worth contemplating from whence the feces came. As a random side note, in Alaska,
00:51:47.600as kids, we would very often pelt each other with moose turds. And moose, they're like
00:51:59.300other kinds of deer they kind of defecate like rabbits do but just moose size so there are these
00:52:10.140big like acorns of poo that you throw at one another but honestly the consistency
00:52:17.020it's like soda it's like chocolate covered sawdust as it were um
00:52:23.980And I suppose that's probably, if you had to use feces to cook with, I think that, you know,
00:52:36.960those kind of grass grazing animals would probably produce a relatively cleaner version of that
00:52:45.840than, say, carnivores or something else.
00:52:48.220Yeah, cattle and lamb. The herbivoric kind of the droppings that were utilized are just like grass patties, basically. They were, you know, multi stomached undulates that, you know, just consume and grind down grass.
00:53:07.720um the usage of that for a fuel source if you talk about that with um you know survivalists and um
00:53:17.400homesteaders and stuff like that there is a uh an element to that because it it doesn't it's not
00:53:24.120like um you know the scat of a meat eater and it's also not like like like i didn't know about the
00:53:29.560moose having kind of like almost like goats if you will where they're just like pelleted um yeah
00:53:36.760i had no idea imagine they'd be big it's a big niche industry in alaska to uh
00:53:43.640make novelty items out of moose turds um like shellac them and make little sculptures and
00:53:51.320little earrings and necklaces and other nonsense for the tourists
00:53:59.720wear this poop thanks you know they there's a lot of people that make a pretty good living
00:54:05.960selling shellacked moose turds with googly eyes hot glue gun to them so uh i mean i don't know
00:54:16.280so that's the thing is like i don't know if that's something that's done across the board because i
00:54:22.040know that now that's imported there are certain uh things that are that are made you know in iceland
00:54:28.360as well that are used for smoking. Um, and you know, like I said, perhaps purists might be,
00:54:35.860uh, you know, doing that or, or using that, but I imagine a long, long time ago, um,
00:54:43.540the idea of, you know, using, um, uh, dung in, in a small like shack on your land in order to do
00:54:55.740with it. Because, okay, another thing that's worth noting is that Thorplot is really timely
00:55:02.160based on another month in the Icelandic calendar, which is Gormannadr. Gormannadr means
00:55:08.100the slaughtering month, if you will. It's the time in which a lot of the herd, the older
00:55:14.920sheep are kind of culled out to allow the younger ones to, you know, to grow and to really to
00:55:26.840ensure that there isn't a lot of like inbreeding amongst the animals. They want to, you know,
00:55:32.220do a lot of the mating of the younger ones and, you know, get the older ones kind of out. And
00:55:37.640they had to slaughter the animals before winter and get them smoked and everything
00:55:42.860through the midwinter. And it was usually, you know, done and ready by, you know, January-ish
00:55:50.680or, you know, Thoris month. So that's when I think Thoroblot kind of became a natural synthesis of
00:56:00.960that's the time to eat these smoked meats and, you know, pressed fish and dried fish and things.
00:56:08.420and it was again a testament to remembering the survival of your ancestors and how they did it
00:56:13.060there's little things in iceland that they they still do like when you go on the roads uh driving
00:56:18.260from keflavik um you head out of the airport and you'll see these like standing stones
00:56:24.980um and they're not quite like an altar or anything they're kind of tall and sometimes they're um
00:56:31.700shaped and these are still around because if there's like a whiteout uh and the snow is coming
00:56:37.460in and you can't really see anything the way the snow lands on these stones it doesn't fully get
00:56:43.220in there so you can see this kind of um black and white shape uh and that's letting you know like
00:56:50.420hey you're on you're near the road you're on the road and it kind of keeps you in the lines
00:56:55.060um so little things like that are just uh reminders of you know they could put perhaps
00:57:01.940modern signage out there and they do uh but the you know in between uh occasionally you have to
00:57:08.180look and see if you can see these standing stones to make sure you're still on the on the road
00:57:11.940because you can lose the horizon very very quickly in the winter time so it helps with the drivers and
00:57:18.980and um people moving back and forth between the airport and the main city the capital yeah you
00:57:26.020know so and i've seen people again this is fun the goal is to be closer with the people you are
00:57:39.620gathered with through having fun experiences and uh hopefully also incorporating you know
00:57:51.060offerings at least toasts if not a full bloat to the god thor um but i've seen people go different
00:58:00.340routes on the food they either go trying to find disgusting things to eat to see who can eat you
00:58:06.340know random disgusting food items you find or they go you know the these things are disgusting
00:58:15.140is a byproduct of the fact that they are preserved foods. So one of the other things people will do
00:58:21.580if they don't want to just eat nasty things, well, they will eat preserved things like jerkies or
00:58:26.260pickled things or various stuff that's done to preserve stuff through the winter. And, you know,
00:58:33.440we can all see where that comes from. I think it fits well with a lot of our other holy tides that
00:58:40.240we celebrate in the, you know, the, the agricultural year, I think this, you know, fits in there
00:58:47.520well. Um, but yeah, there's a lot of, a lot of fun things you can do. Um, but the point
00:58:57.480being, get together and have fun with your folk, with your family and, uh, raise a toast
00:59:06.500to make an offering to us at Thor in celebration.
00:59:27.820as well as celebrate during other things,
00:59:30.020really crank up the joy when things are cold
00:59:33.180And when you may need that pick-me-up, smile in the face of adversity and celebrate when the climate is least conducive to celebration, I'd say.
00:59:48.160Yeah, I would say, you know, when we think about Thoroblot as an Icelandic holiday, that is, again, a feast celebrated by Icelanders.
01:02:18.680And we're happy to answer all of those questions.
01:02:23.480Every two weeks is coming way faster than the calendar year is going to go.
01:02:27.560So we're going to be off season here really quick.
01:02:31.060We just happened to hit Yule in our first episode in December.
01:02:38.060So Survive 2030, I think that you are a new, from my understanding, you're a new listener to the program.
01:02:46.900that being the case um yeah ask anything you want these these shows are a free-for-all on questions
01:02:57.880as long as they are presented respectfully and they're you know a reasonable question
01:03:04.900I you know we've all heard there's no such thing as a stupid question that's not true there's plenty
01:03:09.880stupid questions but we will answer most of them um as long as they're asked in uh in good faith
01:03:18.440um but yeah that's so one of the things that i'm also not gonna lie uh those who aren't
01:03:25.960familiar with the early days of modern house of truth there was a one of the things that
01:03:33.960characterized it in um in the united states certainly and i think this looked a little bit
01:03:42.360different in england and with alexander red mills in australia but here in the united states
01:03:51.880the very early days were certainly characterized by a a hyper focus on
01:03:59.880on vikings and because the material available i hyper focus on the icelandic sagas uh from
01:04:08.520the viking period or about the viking period so yeah this is part of that you know
01:04:17.480no disrespect but the viking fetishism of the early days of alsatru and
01:04:25.480as much as i get on here because i have to speak
01:04:29.880And because of a disproportionate emphasis on quote-unquote Viking LARP or on the conceptualization that our faith is just confined to, you know, a 300-year period of Norse expression, I come out a lot anti-Viking.
01:05:32.940You'll notice that our very early Days of Remembrance were almost exclusively focused on the Viking period,
01:05:43.960but specifically characters out of and i say characters real persons out of um
01:05:52.840the heimskringla um the sagas of the kings of norway um so the saga period is something that
01:06:00.200we took a lot of inspiration on in the in the 70s and the 80s and 90s and that's why i think
01:06:07.880this was latched onto as one of our celebrations but it's cool and i'm glad that it was and
01:06:15.560i would not want to eat a lot of rotten shark but every time it has been presented to me i have
01:06:21.800i have eaten it i have paused so that i can appreciate the flavor i don't need to chase
01:06:27.640things with brenovan but i've had my brenovan separately um
01:06:32.040factoid about me. So right now I'm drinking pirate water. Spoiler alert, it's not water.
01:06:44.000This is the sex on the beach flavored pirate water coming in at 10%. I like to drink fruity,
01:06:51.080ridiculous girl drinks that have umbrellas in it and that are pink colored and whatever else.
01:06:57.560but I can do all, I can do all right with, uh, with the, with the Everclear. So as far as
01:07:06.980celebration, I mentioned this because Brenovan is a particularly harsh alcohol, uh, for folks
01:07:13.960that it's also considered in the drinking gross stuff category, not because it has a repugnancy
01:07:21.660to it. I think, honestly, it's got a little bit of a, I don't know how you'd describe
01:07:28.240it, Svan. I've heard that, I've heard it's got a little bit of a star anise kind of flavor
01:07:34.840to it. I don't know if I'd go that far, but it's a pretty strong grain alcohol. But yeah,
01:07:44.020one of the things that people used to do at the, long story on how I got into it, but
01:07:49.780regardless, because of economy and cheapness and various things. I worked at this
01:08:00.020touristy college bar place. Anybody who doesn't know, I used to work bar security for a long time.
01:08:09.820So I worked at this place in Florida and they were all drinking Fireball or anything else,
01:08:14.300but you know i wasn't there drinking i was there working so it was odd when somebody would buy me
01:08:19.560a shot and you know i was grateful whatever so the bartenders asked me to come back and cut some
01:08:23.500limes all right matt what do you have but buy a couple shots so i was going for what's the most
01:08:28.220bang for my buck so i'm like all right you guys got everclear well they didn't down there they
01:08:32.720call it diesel but it's the same thing it's the pure grain alcohol that's like 110 proof or
01:08:38.260whatever. So I said, I'll take a double shot of that. And they were trying to, you know, okay,
01:08:44.340but what do you want to mix it? I don't need to mix it with it. Well, you want to chase it? I
01:08:47.780don't need to chase it. I'm a grown man. And so I was getting indignant at all the things they'd
01:08:51.860offer me to try to make it go down easier. But then everybody thought it was a fun game to
01:08:57.420say they got me one drink, but they got me a triple shot of the diesel and then watch as I
01:09:02.780drink it, but I can go hard if I got to, but I like the fruity drinks. I don't even know how I
01:09:10.880got on that. I think it was the Brennavin. So that's another thing. So culturally,
01:09:17.420what is the deal with Brennavin? When my father and my stepmother went to Iceland, they had like a
01:09:24.280layover there or something on a trip they went on. They bought me some and it's like a big,
01:09:28.800it's a big deal why is that such a relevant cultural drink for your ancestors well i think
01:09:37.300mainly because it's production is is uh it's distilled but uh you when you consider
01:09:43.020the the crop that's available and the distillation process and then the flavoring afterwards and
01:09:52.120what's available then um you know the the it's it's mainly based around rye wheat and i think
01:09:58.520like most alcohols, you're looking at an overabundance or perhaps like an unspecified
01:10:05.760amount. Like you get the good stuff that goes to get, you know, ground up into flour. And then
01:10:13.280there's like the leftover and the leftover is not always the best, or perhaps it's just, you know,
01:10:19.400not quite ready or dry enough or what have you. So they hold it for later or they separate it out
01:10:25.940And then they use that for the, you know, the proper, um, the must or, or the, um, the, the grains like mash mixed with water to create, um, you know, the original to, to get the, the, uh, the yeast to start producing alcohol and then they distill it and then they flavor it again with a, the, the rye flavor.
01:10:48.980So I would say anybody that's never tried Brinevin, the one thing that's worth remembering is it tastes a lot like rye bread or like a deep, dark, rich pumpernickel.
01:11:04.400And so I really think that that's the major reason why.
01:11:07.700It's the one that's like scotches to Scotland.
01:11:13.720Brinevin is that toasted barley rye that's used to create kind of our national liquor, if you will.
01:11:24.460I mean, there's a lot of beer that's to be drunk and made in Iceland now, but I don't necessarily think that was entirely the case a long time ago.
01:11:35.080I think it was a lot easier once the processes of distillation became more prevalent and it was easier to carry.
01:11:41.800It was a smaller amount. Um, and so now it's, it's a traditional thing to even be, well, I wouldn't say like Icelanders on a regular, but the idea of it is that Icelanders understand like a, you know, a traditional, um, breakfast, uh, of like oats and of rye bread with some sort of, uh, salad, or I guess it would be like, like an egg salad is, yeah, it's considered a salad.
01:12:06.540But it's like, you know, fermented or sweet pickled herring or perhaps like a, you know, a mayo based with with tiny shrimp and fish.
01:12:18.700Have you ever heard? I'm sorry to interrupt, but I have to. Have you ever heard of something called West Coast salad?
01:12:27.740OK, pause. This is not called that. I'm told that's that's what it was translated to me that the Swedes eat.
01:12:33.920but it's called west coast salad their west coast puts them really close to norway which
01:12:43.000i assume is the ancestor of a lot of icelandic foods
01:12:45.960it is amazing my true i took an afa trip to sweden a number of years back and there was this stuff
01:12:54.620again at breakfast time it was this like a seafood-y mayonnaise-y kind of salad thing
01:13:02.080it was called west coast salad and it was delicious i have to throw that out there
01:13:09.380any of our swedes are listening if any of you know swedes west coast salad it's good stuff
01:13:15.940i wish i had some i had some right now i would pause this broadcast and go eat it
01:13:20.900um it's amazing i just had to put it out there something i want to clear up something in the
01:13:27.820chat too. Nick was claiming that I benched 350. Just want to put it out there. My best ever bench
01:13:33.320was 395. But I tore up my left shoulder. And so I don't do a lot of flat benches anymore. It just
01:13:44.240doesn't work right on my rotator cuff. But I got it up to 395, just for the record.
01:13:50.700somebody else asked if I like pina coladas also wanted to say this that is by far my
01:13:58.800as a basic answer to the question that is my favorite drink is pina colada if
01:14:07.260you want to punk me and we're out somewhere and you order me a pina colada the joke's on you
01:14:14.040because I will enjoy every bit of it and be the happiest guy in the world that's my favorite
01:14:19.460but my real favorite is and I've only seen it on the menu one place but had to get it was what's
01:14:26.320called a horchata colada which is basically a mix between horchata and pina colada so it's
01:14:32.200pina colada but with like cinnamon absolutely amazing highly recommended
01:14:37.120well uh one thing that I really like to do and this is just uh something that like more
01:14:44.080I used to brew a lot. I don't brew that much anymore, but people that are interested in
01:14:49.780brewing, one of the things, uh, there is of course Thor's night, uh, or, you know, Thor's day during
01:14:56.200Yule. And, um, that's a great time to kind of, uh, you know, pitch your yeast for mead during that
01:15:04.280usually will be ready by the time of Austria. But, um, a quick thing you can do is also set up some,
01:15:11.620some, uh, brew for Thorobloat. And one of the things that I really like to do is to take, um,
01:15:17.920like a gallon jug of, um, unfiltered organic apple juice. Usually you can find them at like
01:15:26.180a Trader Joe's or some sort of kind of, um, you know, a little bit more like, I guess, holistic,
01:15:31.940um, food marts. And you can take a little bit out and actually put a stopper on the gallon
01:15:38.640jug and uh so you put your yeast in there put your stopper in there and you let it ferment and then
01:15:44.540you can rack it into really whatever bottles you have even twist tops and um let them ferment a
01:15:52.580little bit more and then throw them in your fridge and um you know kill the the yeast production
01:15:58.000and um as long as you're kind of releasing the gas uh from the caps you know barring you won't
01:16:04.820have any like explosions in your fridge, you'll have, um, an app, a hard apple cider, depending
01:16:11.200on the yeast you use. You can use champagne yeast. I've used beer yeast. I've, so I've been
01:16:16.320on both ends and, um, I've, you know, rate got my alcohol up to about 8% with the beer yeast
01:16:22.780and, um, 11 to 12 with the, um, champagne yeast. And you could have a nice, um, you know, quick
01:16:31.420apple, hard apple, uh, cider or hard apple juice, um, by Thor bloat easily. Cause it only takes
01:16:40.580about two and a half weeks to finish. So doing that was kind of like a fun thing to do on Thor's
01:16:47.340night. And that was completely done with the idea of like, well, you know, Astra is a long way away
01:16:54.480and mead takes forever. Let's do something fast as well. And, um, it's super easy to do. I'm
01:17:01.280sure there's recipes all you would have to do is look up you know like hard apple cider in in the
01:17:07.120jug and there's probably articles upon articles about it um in which it's like a quick kind of
01:17:13.360um you know countertop brewing uh project that you can do quite easily and guaranteed by the end
01:17:21.360of january it's going to be ready to go um and you just got to be careful and then of course
01:17:25.680it's sneaky, but it's also nice. You can drink a little bit then and then save the rest and
01:17:31.980it just gets better with age. So I want to acknowledge a couple of chat things. First,
01:17:37.600Hafenon donated $20 and blew the victory horn. This victory horn is for the new listeners.
01:17:46.360Welcome. Also, this is in fact an Odenshof flex, a dropped gauntlet, if you will. He said perhaps.
01:19:38.600Sometimes these, on the six and seven hour episodes, I will take it.
01:19:44.560it is absolutely a chore when it goes that long but it's important and it's literally what what
01:19:50.560spawn and i both signed up and took oaths before the gods to do uh but honestly this is fun i look
01:19:58.800forward to it all week i'm excited about doing it i'm glad to get the opportunity so i enjoy doing
01:20:05.280these with you guys also ryan wants to make a joke and says that not only do i like the pina
01:20:12.000coladas but every now and again i take walks in the rain or enjoy getting caught in the rain that's
01:20:18.640what he said while all both of those things are true i do not like jimmy buffett no i do not
01:20:25.440so don't get that that wasn't oh no it's not jimmy buffett who is it oh no i can't remember yes no
01:20:35.680no no i can't either and that bothers me now but no i do not like that song so um we've got some
01:20:44.160questions backing up and i want to get to some of them hopefully we can catch some of these folks
01:20:49.200before they have gone to bed hold on my daughter has requests of me i apologize
01:20:58.000i can't change your show from up here i don't go ask her no i can't do it we'll get her all right
01:21:04.800so um where are we at on the questions going up to all right first question and i think we've
01:21:17.220already answered it but i think there may be a little bit more to it uh does thor bloat have
01:21:24.420to do with Thor actually uh no it doesn't and it is Thorablot and Svan can break down the Icelandic
01:21:36.460etymology of that a little bit to you and quite honestly maybe etymologically Thoramont may relate
01:21:46.020back to thor in some way um the best i've been able to discover is it being named after a
01:21:54.820celebration to a king of finland named thorry uh which translates into frost
01:22:05.540and that's what i believe it was and the the theory goes that there were yearly sacrifices
01:22:12.980to celebrate that uh that king and that that's what it goes back to but no quite honestly it's
01:22:19.620never been a literal one for one that it has anything to do with thor until the modern period
01:22:24.580where we decided to say you know let's just do it and call it good uh do you have more to add on that
01:22:31.460Yeah, so the month 40 is kind of where it originates from in the idea that that's the time that it's done.
01:22:45.240It's done in midwinter, and it kind of became its own, you know, again, like speaking about in the 19th century.
01:22:56.540Um, but it's connections to, or, and I didn't bring it up because it's in one saga in which their, their, their belief that there was a king, um, from Finland that, uh, or, or perhaps it wasn't even actually Finland yet.
01:23:16.460it was before that time um in which the territories of the northern or the great north there was
01:23:24.680a king or a chieftain who was celebrated by doing bloats to thor in midwinter um and then those two
01:23:33.140became synonymous since his name was thori uh there's some mystical stuff around him um in
01:23:40.980relation to possibly being related to a Jotnar. And I know that, I mean, even in Iceland, they do
01:23:48.480this too, where people will speak about being, like they have troll blood in them, they're
01:23:53.160particularly big. So, I mean, it's very viable that the idea that he's connected to a giant or
01:24:01.020a Jotun or a troll or something of that could be referencing to perhaps his size and his strength
01:24:07.860or what have you um however you know it was marked down um in in the sagas that uh came
01:24:17.380kind of came late um a lot of the sagas that were written down in the 12th century
01:24:22.500um it was kind of mentioned more in the 13th century in a very small um saga in relation
01:24:28.260to the orkney isles and um how it transferred from say like you know the origins being from
01:24:37.940finland or northern finland and you know eastern sweden northeastern sweden uh or that territory
01:24:44.980at the time and how it kind of shifted down into the orkneys is i i don't really know and again by
01:24:54.340that time in the in the 13th century uh you know the the uh conversion of things there might there
01:25:03.540could very well have been the ideas like okay there were bloats given to thor but we're going
01:25:10.820to say thori who maybe was the one instigating the bloats to thor even after the conversion times
01:25:18.180because he was so far north, um, and was able to do so without getting a lot of, you
01:25:23.500know, uh, Jimmy's rustled, if you will, um, uh, that it kind of became synonymous with
01:25:31.500him in relation to kind of downplaying maybe the overall, but nobody really knows. And
01:25:38.140so you get kind of two explanations when you, when you look for it. I mean, there's clearly
01:25:43.580the mention of king thori um but the information about him is scant and there's a lot of myth
01:25:52.140uh mystical things kind of connected to him and that he is you know related to a jotnar and his
01:25:58.380children are named after uh you know the effects of of winter and snow and and rime ice and things
01:26:05.740like that um and that may have had some connections to the name of um the month used in the iceland
01:26:13.500calendar there are a couple of months where etymologists don't quite know exactly where
01:26:19.420they came from but um i kind of feel like at the by the time of the 13th century
01:26:27.180what they were probably doing was trying to downplay and i'm not trying to use this boogeyman
01:26:32.220um kind of caveat that like a lot of people will use but if there were thor i think there were
01:26:39.820bloats to thor um you know probably done throughout the year quite often and perhaps maybe
01:26:47.180in that region under the auspice of a king named thori or perhaps he had some great drive towards
01:26:53.980thor he wanted to hold bloats to him and was far enough north that he could do it without um
01:27:02.700getting a lot of uh flack and i think those those kind of spread the stories may have spread or
01:27:08.780or something like that and they just kind of got written down and carried their way over the uh
01:27:14.940the another thing worth noting is that back in the day but they couldn't fly to iceland so a lot of
01:27:20.860times the um the boats would move like to scotland northern scotland the orkney isles the pharaoh
01:27:29.100islands and then up into iceland it was a safer way to travel during certain parts of the year
01:27:34.620other parts not so much um and perhaps that had some effect on the calendar construction
01:27:42.540um but we don't quite know so you'll find like one blurb about the saga and king thorry and
01:27:55.180and nobody quite knows where exactly he's from or uh you know there's speculation was he finnish
01:28:01.180was he swedish was it uh just in a separate territory at the time um and then you'll find
01:28:07.540that the the nationalists of iceland focused more on um the the the elements of being icelandic and
01:28:17.020one of the things that they really focused on was was thor as a divine being or at least
01:28:23.200kind of coincided that together and i wonder if that was done if that synthesis was done
01:28:29.040from the blood uh in in a in a way i think that even though perhaps you know icelanders are
01:28:36.120generally seen as a lutheran people um they've always kind of held christianity very loosely
01:28:42.060um and you know there was always uh lots of stories about people practicing old ways and
01:28:48.640it was demonized heavily especially in the early parts of iceland uh you know around the 11th 12th
01:28:55.74013th and even 14th century, um, where, you know, uh, people practicing the old ways were seen as
01:29:01.840wizards and witches and, or just, you know, uh, in leagues with trolls and elves. And it was kind
01:29:09.300of like a spooky, uh, thing. So I think that the nationalists of Iceland in the 19th century,
01:29:15.960uh, you know, and especially really, really hammering at home during what their kind of
01:29:21.640romantic revival which was in the late 30s early 40s um decided that this was you know the month
01:29:30.16040s month 40 month was the time that they would celebrate it and they called it for a bloat
01:29:35.500after the month but then that would naturally lead towards belief systems of icelanders before
01:29:43.200christianity uh in a way kind of before foreign influence if you will um i don't know if that i
01:29:49.140I can't speak and say that's their absolute intention, but it certainly went down that thread.
01:29:54.480And I, you know, I don't think anybody was amiss in the idea of it or really, you know, they nobody really kind of, again, turn their nose towards it.
01:30:06.080Instead, it was elevated and it was, you know, brought up to festivities for fun.
01:30:10.660And so the synthesis of Thor into the month of Thori and the possible origins towards Thori the king and his midwinter bloats perhaps to Thor is kind of all linked together.
01:30:28.140But it's one of those holidays that just kind of tightened itself up from many strands, kind of becoming like a rope.
01:30:36.100And I think a lot of our holidays are like that.
01:30:40.660if you will. You know, they kind of end up, you know, Hexanok for us is very similar to like
01:30:46.620Valsbergenok, which is celebrated in Sweden. And a lot of that may have come from mainland Germany
01:30:52.440when their influence during the time that Sweden was a formidable kingdom and had a, you know,
01:31:00.160a very active army during like Napoleonic eras. So.
01:31:05.000all right so um got a five dollar donation from survive 2030 says hail our gods thank you very
01:31:16.840much we appreciate your donation um next up in the line of questions uh is thorough bloat exclusive
01:31:29.080to iceland or is it celebrated in other parts of europe and the west so as swan mentioned earlier
01:31:35.400it's either celebrated by icelandic you know expats and people with icelandic heritage
01:31:44.920or it's celebrated by alsatruar um so yeah where there are folks like swan who are are from from
01:31:57.640iceland uh there is there is celebration of it but i don't think it's it's culturally celebrated
01:32:04.200anywhere else outside of those as an homage to that ethnicity or by people who practice house
01:32:13.080of truth uh is that correct swan yeah and i would say again uh thoroughbred in relation to icelandic
01:32:21.480national and ethnic identity is icelandic but a celebration to thor and a midwinter bloat
01:32:30.940that is named you know thoroblot um and is not exclusive to iceland i think that again when
01:32:38.260we're talking about king thorry possibly being from you know finland and um the kind of the the
01:32:45.020the rumor of the of midwinter bloats kind of passing through sweden and and uh maybe zealand
01:32:51.500and the orkney isles and faro and faroe islands and iceland so there was probably a lot of of um
01:32:59.580kind of shared ideas but it became icelandic and then with the foundation of of alsatru as a kind
01:33:08.540kind of organizing and functioning religion in America, the American foundations of Ausatru
01:33:15.160really did start to pull from different sources. And I think that it's worth noting that like
01:33:22.700Viking fetishism or Viking focus is more or less now I would view it as a component. We understand
01:33:32.740that there's a lot of gravity in the study of the Norse, but there's also in like the Frigians
01:33:39.520and in the English or the Anglos and the early Anglos that were living in Denmark and then
01:33:47.380and northern or, you know, lowland Germany and along the Baltic Sea. There's a lot of
01:33:57.540components now because we have so much access to the survival of our native uh ethnic faith
01:34:05.460in europe in the shadow of uh christianity or catholicism that survived in its different ways
01:34:12.900so i think as americans we're um pulling those components and there was a heavy component
01:34:19.540towards strictly just norse but now it is one of many components that you will find because you
01:34:26.340You have a lot of people now who are German or they're a Germanic and Gaelic admixture.
01:34:35.880And some people get caught up on on splitting threads like, oh, I can't celebrate Thordoblo because I'm not Icelandic.
01:34:43.600But I should celebrate perhaps like German holidays or so on and so forth.
01:34:49.480I think the best way to look at it is, is that the native indigenous faith of the Germanic people or the Teutonic people had various elements. And we as Americans are often made up of those various locations in Europe and that we are kind of coming back together. And so taking note of that, but I think it would be, you know, focusing on Thor in the midwinter bloat, I think is the definitive thing that separates.
01:35:19.480it from an Icelandic holiday. You won't go to a Thorobloat with Icelanders and they're not going
01:35:25.880to have a harrow. They're not going to be, you know, holding horns and filling and giving gifts
01:35:31.760of vehicles of fluid or food or gifts to Thor. In general, it's a celebration of themselves.
01:35:41.940And that's fine too, I think, especially in light of how it was created and the time it was created.
01:35:46.960but that's the difference between our Thoroblot and what could be your Thoroblot is because Thor
01:35:53.040is not exclusive to Icelanders. So yeah, just so everybody gets it. And we've been straightforward
01:36:01.860with this. There's, there's two Thoroblots. There is the cultural romantic celebration of
01:36:10.740Icelandic heritage and Icelandic nationalism. And in that sense, it's very much like
01:36:16.660St. Patrick's Day or Cinco de Mayo or anything else.
01:36:22.040People want to have a party and do Icelandic stuff.
01:44:51.600the baby jesus getting born in a manger that's middle eastern that's desert stuff
01:44:59.760well they got camels in the manger scene uh that's desert stuff also
01:45:05.440Also, I guess Midnight Mass is desert stuff, but not really.
01:45:14.500It's like Roman exaltation of desert stuff.
01:45:21.680One thing that I will say that is really, really cool and beautiful about Christmas stuff is the less silly and more religious Christmas music.
01:45:35.440it's very well done and it sticks with you and it gets stuck in my head and some of it's really
01:45:40.960awesome it comes from our people but it comes from our people unfortunately devoted for uh to a foreign
01:45:49.680god and to not theirs um but all of the fun and cool stuff is absolutely ours uh not to go too
01:45:58.400deep into it but spawn is there anything you want to say on that tis the season after all yeah i
01:46:03.440I mean, one thing I would say is like St. Nicholas and the idea of like a Turkish Christian celebrating giving during this time of year in Greece has certainly Christian connotations.
01:46:17.220Though I did read somewhere, and I can't quote it verbatim, but there was one we know that the trip to Bethlehem was most likely done in August-September timeframe in relation to a census being held by the Romans.
01:46:33.700So the timing has been shifted over. But the other thing that I recently learned about was the birth of Bacchus in a manger amongst the Greeks, and that that may have been a superimposed point that was emphasized when early Christian Hebrews were coming into Greece
01:47:00.800and kind of synthesizing with the Greeks.
02:00:40.000Much like the Asatruar in Norway in 800,
02:00:45.580practice Asatru very different than those in,
02:00:50.580say, 1 A.D., the Germanic tribesmen practicing Ausatru.
02:00:58.160Just as those men practiced Ausatru extremely different than our Neolithic ancestors who
02:01:07.180practiced our faith in, you know, 2000 B.C.
02:01:12.720so specific practice is relevant to place to time to circumstance but the principles
02:01:22.860are what we want to carry forward so it's really important when we think about any way that we
02:01:28.700practice our faith is what is the purpose what are we doing that's why i kind of broke it down
02:01:36.080earlier thorobloat you're having fun with your family and your friends and your folk
02:01:42.280and you're giving honor and celebration to aussie thor that's the purpose we're trying to accomplish
02:01:50.140that makes a lot of sense today in light of icelandic romanticism of the early 1900s
02:02:00.920it works very well for us now it's not something our ancient ancestors practiced it's certainly not
02:02:08.260something that our ancestors practiced before they discovered Iceland and it's something that
02:02:13.780may be less relevant to practice when our ancestors you know travel to the stars or not
02:02:21.100our ancestors our descendants travel to the stars but celebrating time with your folk and
02:02:30.820your family and raising worship and celebration to Asa Thor will be just as relevant then as it
02:02:39.360is today, as it was in 800, as it was in 2000 BC, and always will be in the future. So it's really
02:02:50.000important to realize that. Our next question is about the etymology of Asa Thor.
02:02:56.500um basically it's two pieces it's applying
02:03:03.460the word also to thor as a prefix basically it means thor of the isir thor of the gods and aus
02:03:16.020is a god um so it is you know thor of the gods thor's name itself comes from you know proto
02:03:28.980indo-european uh thuneras meaning thunder he is the thunderer he is personified and understood
02:03:41.000by the might of the thunderstorm of lightning and of that power and so he is he's Thor of the
02:03:48.340Aesir also Thor just like we practice also true uh troth or loyalty to the Aesir do you have
02:03:57.340anything to add on that uh etymologically fun uh yeah there's when we think of like
02:04:03.340Thrizaz and Wodhanaz and Ingwaz, the usage of an AZ or an AS can be traced back in usage
02:04:13.940with the Gothic language as well, mainly through the alphabet that there was a Christian monk
02:04:23.060by the name of Uphilas who was trying to convert the Gutanish people or the Gutans or the Goths,
02:04:29.120and he marked down most of the lettering based off of the runic symbols.
02:04:38.600And with that being said, it seems to be that the Goths had enough of an understanding
02:04:45.600that he felt the need to directly correlate as opposed to just entirely superimposing
02:04:51.740the Greek alphabet onto their language.
02:04:55.740And so it seems that the AZ or Aus derivative at the end or at the beginning or just the usage of it by the Viking Age or the Nordic Age is that Aus was synonymous with a god or a power.
02:05:12.400And it may have shown up in earlier forms of Germanic languages at the end, like Tiawas and Woldanas and Thonaras, and that over time it just became, even though it was kind of always attached, it was the general idea of the usage of the word being divine, a divine one, a pillar.
02:05:31.240um it may have uh connotations to like a strut or a support and that again would
02:05:37.660have a lot of connotations towards the ordering and the stability that the gods place upon the
02:05:44.560world and so i i that's the word aus asa i see here um and again it survives in in english with
02:05:56.580the OS, like in Oswald, you know, the meaning of it being a divine power sometimes.
02:06:07.880If I'm right with this one, correct me if I'm not, it also goes back to the idea of
02:06:14.320an estuary or the mouth of a river system. Is that true as well?
02:06:22.060yeah and the well in anglo-saxon especially in relation to the rune it's mentioned that
02:06:28.620the os is like an estuary or an open uh mouth or river i think uh a lot of the correlations
02:06:36.540of the idea of like the giving of power or the ones that we give gifts to and and then gain from
02:06:44.140um is closely connected as well with the idea of that i mean when you see translations of like
02:06:51.020oscar or oswald as names you'll see oscar kind of translated as spear of god but what it really is
02:06:59.740is the same as the icelandic name ausger which means spear of the gods or spear of one of the
02:07:05.740gods or in particular oven um uh it's they sometimes they superimpose that it's just
02:07:14.780god because it's not incorrect aus means god and we should be able to um completely uh you know
02:07:25.420use those two interchangeably but in our language god and goddess have a lot more clarity than say
02:07:33.020aus and aus senior which a lot of people might not and then again if we're lending too much
02:07:38.860to the nordic component i've got a question
02:07:43.660if an icelander or a old north speaker wanted to reference not by name but by
02:07:55.580what it is the god of the jews what would they say well so the usage of the word like god go like uh
02:08:07.020a like gold and goodness and god would it be god or would it be tear or would it be house
02:08:15.900what no it would not be words that mean god literally but the tense or the the implication
02:08:24.700is very different how would we yeah no it was known that house and tear and uh those usages
02:08:32.300of the words um and of course using them in a plural context was older older ways as opposed
02:08:40.940to like the the big g god that was used but even that word comes again from the the the goths and
02:08:49.980the germans ultimately and the the translation during the time of uh you know when germanization
02:08:56.860was coming into modern christianity you know switching from and it's relatively recent you
02:09:02.860know okay as a modern son of iceland though if you were in iceland and you wanted to refer to
02:09:10.060the god of the jews or the god of the you know the the god of the pueblo or the god of the
02:09:23.980the congolese what would you say you would say like god god god it's and it's okay yeah it's not
02:09:35.420house it's not tier though it is kind of funny like in iceland they call hanukkah it's it's jewish
02:09:43.260yule is how it's translated they call it jew yule yeah it's it's it's yule is is absolutely
02:09:53.980yeah it's it's completely held in framework over every kind of um holiday at this time
02:10:01.660it's it's all okay so so question here and i'll blame this on the pirate water
02:11:28.520No, I honestly don't know in relation to that.
02:11:34.080I joke because I, you know, I live in the South and I, you know, I've gone to school, been in the South is, especially on the East Coast, you know, a lot of blacks and whites living together and I've never actually met any black folk who celebrated Kwanzaa.
02:11:55.320most of them are you know what i have i wish i had i had i suppose have one black friend
02:12:05.720from high school and i have always encouraged him to celebrate kwanzaa if i were a black man
02:12:12.800i would proudly celebrate kwanzaa um but i don't think he does and i don't really i'm just kind
02:12:19.660of curious etymologically we got on the word yeah to keep it serious i mean that so uh michael
02:12:25.260from njortzhoff no they did a reboot everybody's rebooting because nobody can come up with new
02:12:30.380ideas so they did a reboot magnum pi and because we're in 2023 and you can't have a heterosexual
02:12:39.480white male protagonist they needed to make thomas magnum a mexican fella um anyways
02:12:49.220That being said, I appreciate that, Monk. I try to keep it youthful, but where are we at? Okay, so Finraith, speaking of Iceland, I'm curious, are there any AFA members in Iceland?
02:13:07.360no there's not we had um we had one for a time and
02:13:14.840it's interesting and so again we're I am doing this halfway to annoy Svan but him being uh
02:13:27.220our resident Icelander he can tell us a little bit about how accurate this is I think there's
02:13:34.060like 400 000 icelanders in existence it is a relatively small population set um we have had
02:13:46.140one member there and he i think had some developmental issues perhaps um he was a
02:13:58.380little bit different but um he was a member for a minute and i think because there wasn't
02:14:03.500a lot of infrastructure he didn't stay a member unfortunately they have an also
02:14:14.860they have a group that calls themselves an also true organization swan could break down the
02:14:21.420etymology and i'm going to butcher this and i'm going to offend your ancestors swan i apologize
02:14:27.660the also truer failure yeah the also true fellowship
02:14:33.500So, but that is kind of a silly atheist group that is a tax dodge because, so, okay, I'm going to break this down.
02:15:00.580I am not claiming that it was always this.
02:15:04.220but there's in europe in a lot of european countries in scandinavia in particular
02:15:11.420very and i think this is true in iceland norway and sweden i'm not sure in denmark
02:15:18.300but there's a percentage of your taxes that can go to your religion of choice
02:15:26.060the default in those countries is to the Lutheran Church if you don't want your money going to if
02:15:37.880you're an atheist in Iceland and you don't want your money going to support the Lutheran Church
02:15:43.520then you can claim that you are also true and it can go to the also true or failing it
02:15:50.480A lot of people who don't want to support Christianity will go that route as a celebration of culture, perhaps,
02:16:01.360but also because they do various leftist things to where they solemnize gay marriages and things like that, unfortunately.
02:16:16.560I will say this because I think it needs to be said.
02:16:20.480Just this year, I wanted to honor the founder of the Ausatruer Felegith, Sveinbjorn Bientenson, with a day of remembrance as one of our Ausatru heroes.
02:16:34.900He, and I believe some of his associates at the time, were devout and believed in our gods, believed in our faith, and were true to the Aesir, were Ausatru.
02:16:48.740and i have heartfelt respect for for him and for that absolutely the folks that followed in in that
02:16:59.960organization have taken in a very different direction but i very much believe that spain
02:17:07.100bjorn was loyal to our gods one of the cool stories about him when he went before the
02:17:16.020government officials to petition to have Al-Satru recognized as a legitimate recognized religion
02:17:25.520in this country, in a place where there was very seldom was there thunder.
02:17:34.480At the moment that he asked it to be recognized, and they kind of laughed him off,
02:17:39.560Alcifor blessed him with cracks of thunder
02:18:08.700And unfortunately, I know that we've all, I say we've all, a lot of us have heard, man, when was that? 2010, I think?
02:18:21.300There was going to be this Ausatru Temple in Reykjavik.
02:18:26.980And it's like they broke ground and they started.
02:18:30.900This project's at least 10 years old and it's not done yet, to my understanding.
02:18:35.400but i know that was hope to a lot of people and i know when people google it it sounds very exciting
02:18:42.200but i think that's become much more of a quote-unquote other category to check for religion
02:18:48.980in iceland than it is a legitimate church devoted to our gods and i hope that changes i really
02:18:56.980I say this, and it's, we are stronger when we are together.
02:19:09.560I am opposed to all the randoms that try to do their own thing and don't want to be part of the AFA.
02:19:17.280For the reason of, we are better when we are together for our gods.
02:19:23.540The more we separate, the more we become irrelevant.
02:19:29.440But in Iceland, in other countries, the equation is really different.
02:19:35.160I honestly, I hope, I hope from the bottom of my heart that the Austrofelligeth chooses to go a religious route and to re-embrace the sincere worship of our gods.
02:19:51.960I would love for that to happen. I don't see that happening right now, but their number has
02:19:58.420grown to a really significant percentage of Icelanders. Unfortunately, I think it's like
02:20:03.560checking other and it's kind of a atheism with fun bells and whistles. I would love it to be
02:20:13.160more than that one day. And I hope that it is. I would love to visit their temple and celebrate
02:20:18.340with them and embrace them if that's the case one day. And I hope it is. That's my understanding of
02:20:25.640it as it is now. And I don't know if Svan has a need to add on that. Not particularly. I think
02:20:34.600that, and again, this kind of, I'm tying in even my joking about Kwanzaa in relation to the
02:20:40.440It's pretty clear that even in Iceland, where Icelanders are the people of Iceland, they have a great and innate fear to couple ethnic identity with religious, you know, spiritual growth.
02:20:59.140uh whether it's you know just it's indoctrinated upon them it's it's held and loomed over their
02:21:04.620heads don't you know they they have a great amount of fear of not wanting to be uh you know
02:21:10.820associated or with any sort of uh again what would be naturally lauded as ethnic identity
02:21:19.380is held immediately to the icelanders as hateful and bigotry or what have you um even to the point
02:21:26.720were i remember they were doing a sun wheel um stone uh circle and uh it looked too much like
02:21:34.960a fifa or a or a sun i mean a solar sun wheel or a um swastika and so they had to change it
02:21:44.240um whereas you know like with uh kwanzaa and african-american um pan-africanism and the idea
02:21:54.240that's almost immediately you know celebrated um and uh even brought right into educational systems
02:22:02.160and you know just oh no it is absolutely a legitimate holiday that's practiced by a lot of
02:22:07.440of uh american black people and and it's just instantly kind of you know set up on a pedestal
02:22:15.040without you know the considerations that it was originally started by you know black
02:22:19.680nationalists that were um you know again doing much of what we're trying to do uh you know
02:22:27.360reconnect to their roots and create a kind of pan-african understanding like we're we are a
02:22:33.440pan-european or pan-arian um understanding of things but the difference is clearly uh you know
02:22:41.280seen in in a lot of those ways where one is um pushed and and lauded uh even though it its roots
02:22:49.440are heavily based off of separatism or communal nationalism or racial nationalism, and others
02:22:58.560aren't. So the Icelanders feel that very, very much so. Plus, on top of this, Scandinavians just
02:23:05.760in general have been lauded with a lot of secularism. I think that global socialistic
02:23:14.380ideas are very part and parcel with the education system in scandinavian countries so it's a half
02:23:21.500step towards identity but they don't want to step too far because they don't want to be called
02:23:26.780something that would scare them in a way and so that's the bridge i think you're you're referencing
02:23:33.660is i hope one day they can realize that having an ethnic identity in your own country in an island
02:23:40.060where you are clearly a people not you know you know here's the here's the thing i'm not
02:23:48.300and it's not even about that and i wish that it it'd be cool if it was um
02:23:58.860and i think this is a source of misunderstanding for a lot of people
02:24:02.140yes racial understanding and racial pride is an important part of usitry
02:24:10.460it's not in and of itself usitry it's a prerequisite because it's an ethnic faith
02:24:18.100i'm not i think that europeans um maybe icelanders more than others
02:28:06.400it's interesting to see giants in high regard and i know you talked about this a little bit but
02:28:13.600you may want to like tighten down on that specifically for obsidian there well yeah i
02:28:20.940again by the time it was written down it was written down in the western islands um and the
02:28:29.840seafaring times. But, you know, it makes mention to Thori as a king in the great north. And
02:28:39.320with most of the sagas, there's a lot of blurring between, you know, reality and
02:28:48.740the meta, if you will. I don't know. I wonder often if, again, it's a poetic correlation to
02:28:57.580the fact that he was far up in the north um and in a way the existence of um you know practices at
02:29:08.180the time midwinter sacrifices and stuff like that couldn't really be stopped up there and i wonder
02:29:13.760if that was seen as kind of like a testament to him being you know more than just something but
02:29:20.020being older or keeping things older alive but i i know at the same time like
02:29:28.340uh references to his daughters and son uh having names uh in relation to like ice or
02:29:37.700sheet ice or snow um a lot of that correlation i don't know if that's just again perhaps
02:29:45.460associating the very region or area with the king himself in kind of a way um
02:29:54.420the uh the jotin being originated from a jotnar um again i made mention of the idea that like
02:30:03.300and even in iceland they'll talk about people being troll-blooded or giant-blooded uh because
02:30:08.820of their size or perhaps because of the the things that they're inclined towards um especially if he
02:30:14.740was you know rejecting uh a lot of the christianization maybe that might have had some
02:30:20.740some play in it um elves and trolls and giants are kind of lumped in on people who hold to the
02:30:28.660old ways of things um or at least it was um um i'm trying to remember the jotun
02:30:37.940the origins of the Jotun that he was supposedly descended from, and I can't quite remember.
02:30:49.520I mean, and if we talk about Hrim Thursr, I would like to point out too, like there are Jotnar that
02:30:57.220we see that descend from Ymir, or actually from Bergelmer. Bergelmer is from Ymir and
02:31:05.620And Bergelmer's kin are the ones that descend from Ymir, the middle, whereas there are the Jotuns of the Utgard, the outer realm, and that outer realm is Niflheim or Niflhel or, of course, the great north, the misty north home.
02:31:26.060And those Jotuns are always seen as certainly extra planar and of older origin than even Ymir, that the primordial forces of the cold and the heat, when we talk about the sons of Muspel and the Hrimthurser, we're talking about Jotunar, which Jotunar, for a better understanding, would just be, think of when you hear that name, like ancient ones.
02:31:52.380um old ones ones from the primordial beginnings um the hrimthurser and the and the mus and the
02:32:02.000muspeli um are older than the jotnar of the material and middle the the storming forces
02:32:09.420the forces of the mountain and um and the things that tear things apart here they're even older
02:32:15.540than that and so again i think that that connotation towards him may have been lended
02:32:21.040for the fact that he was so far north in what would be finland now um i don't know i i guess i
02:32:29.840and how it got all the way to the orkney isles that's a great question i don't know it again
02:32:37.200it's just almost the same way as clearly the um the celebration of beowulf as a you know he's a
02:32:45.760clearly he's a geet he's from the the lands that are now the you know the svidio or the sve are
02:32:52.160the swedes um but it's talked about in denmark but it's written down and known to us because of
02:32:59.120the english so there's clearly transference that could happen there um you know and what we would
02:33:06.320see as like great distances but you know with boat travel and things like that you know it's uh it's
02:33:12.480entirely possible but in relation to him being a jotnar um i don't know i think that i i wonder if
02:33:20.800that's again connection to his his placement where he's at where he's from and ultimately
02:33:28.000kind of his freestandingness if you will um
02:33:33.520hmm i'm trying to think of other things i mean i i could try to look up his his uh the the
02:33:41.680a descendancy of, I know that it comes from the Orkney sagas.
02:33:52.600I forgot their names. It has Orkney in it. I know that much.
02:33:57.960But again, you know, speaking on the origins of Thorri and Thorablot
02:34:04.840and what it has become in relation to both Icelanders and to Ausatruir
02:34:10.140or people who are of Ossetur or are loyal to the gods.
02:35:06.840all right this one is for me matt how many calories do you consume to stay fit and how
02:35:22.220do you budget alcohol into your diet so
02:35:25.760mental gymnastics and wishful thinking so what all right calorie wise
02:35:36.100Let me check. Actually, I'll tell you exactly. Hold up one second.
02:35:46.220I am one of those guys, and I don't necessarily think this is a good thing, but it's a thing.
02:35:56.360So I keep all these windows open on my computer, lest I forget a website that I'm on.
02:36:06.100So, I'm going to type in my equation right now. I do what's, I don't know, loosely called if it fits your macros. And that helps me to kind of keep it between the lines of what I'm trying to do.
02:36:34.160so i again i count i can give you a calorie count it's about 2855 because i'm trying to
02:36:48.000get less fat i'm at just under 20 body fat right now to my understanding i would like to get
02:36:58.400it. Realistically at my age and my lifestyle and feasting and celebrating is so much of an
02:37:05.280important part of what we do. I'd like to get slightly under 17. If I'm under 17, that'd make
02:37:12.640me happy. So I'm trying to cut, but just a little bit right now. So I'm at 2,855 and that breaks
02:37:21.600down to about 286 grams of protein, 214 grams of carbs, and 95 grams of fat.
02:37:33.160As far as calories from alcohol, though, it's deceptive. And I say this, I'm not trying to
02:37:40.600fool anybody. I get it. I don't. I'm aware that there's calories in alcohol that don't come from
02:37:51.020macronutrients i don't drink a lot typically the only time during the week that i do drink
02:37:57.020is during this show because it's fun and it's a celebration um when i have people over for one of
02:38:06.640my i'll hear your gothic dinners which i love to do every month then i'll i'll drink something
02:38:12.020fancy there but i don't drink daily or a lot so when i do i'm only really counting the
02:38:20.680carbs involved in the alcohol and not the overall calories. So I think that does throw it off if
02:38:27.340you're being very, very strict. Yeah, but that's what I do. And it's worked really good for me
02:38:39.220if it fits your macros. I don't always make the progress I want, but if I'm screwing up,
02:38:45.080I know that I'm screwing up, and it's me choosing to, so I can deal with that.
02:38:51.220Something I wanted to mention, though, is Barry.
02:49:54.980getting right with your folk and the gods.
02:49:59.820And that involves, again, building that relationship, building your troth, and getting back to the foundations of the spiritual framework of your people.
02:50:11.460Secondly, is absolutely to clear any grievances and get right with your ancestors, if you will, and spiritually reach out to them and clear things out from the past.
02:50:29.980um the last part is really again is the abidement of uh corrective action and you have to understand
02:50:39.900that sometimes the weird that you have perhaps woven or was woven around you some of it is even
02:50:46.300again given to you at birth and you have to bear some of that and those the repercussions of all
02:50:53.760that that's woven together um with a continuance of just pushing the correct action you can
02:51:02.400slowly turn your luck um some people i think feel that it's uh you know it's not possible
02:51:09.760or or they they get dark and in their in the doldrums of it and in reality i think that's
02:51:15.440part of like the personal deeds of it is that you have to it really starts with your your mindset um
02:51:21.760Um, are you, you know, and I mean, real deep introspective look at yourself, um, you know,
02:51:29.060are, are you doing things that cultivate, um, a turning around of your life? Um, are you
02:51:37.240getting rid of things that hold you back? And I, you know, these are personal things that you
02:51:42.180might know or not know, or, uh, some things that you might be even trying to reject, you know,
02:51:48.180if there are things holding you back or keeping you hindered and you're refusing to let them go
02:51:53.920oftentimes those are great sources of woe in your life you could be right with the gods and right
02:52:00.860with your ancestors but refusing to see or do certain things that you might not either be aware
02:52:08.140of or you are aware of but just refuse to give them the countenance that they have in your life
02:52:12.400And so that deep introspection on what those things might be is highly personal. But I believe that by disciplining yourself away from the things that detract you, whether it's perhaps people that you're hanging out with and they're not they're not good and they kind of garner a lot of foul luck upon them for their deeds.
02:52:38.260and you're in proximity with them, um, or perhaps doing deeds with them or, or things of that
02:52:43.600nature. Um, whether it's perhaps personal vices or, um, decisions that you make, um, you really
02:52:51.180have to kind of pull back and start create that line that you can pull back from and start to
02:52:59.060reassess what is going on. Are you, um, holding on to things in the past? Are you, um,
02:53:07.160not allowing yourself to grow or expand or perhaps leave things behind. Sometimes it does
02:53:16.620require us to look at that. And I believe that the gods and our ancestors do guide us in directions
02:53:23.320towards our best. I think that they want the best for us in relation to the ideas that they
02:53:30.700want us to succeed, or they want us to be able to prove themselves, prove ourselves to them.
02:53:36.100And, um, you know, I, that part there is kind of a, are you doing everything? And of course people, most people will say, yes, I'm doing everything. I'm trying really hard. And again, it's, there's something there that I think is perhaps being missed or is worth looking.
02:53:59.840And even if you don't find it, the actions you take towards fixing things in your life will always garner better things.
02:54:09.320It just requires you to really look at yourself and what you're doing and the deeds that you have, perhaps, or the deeds that have come before you.
02:54:17.540And you need to either make them right, separate from them.
02:54:22.060Again, sometimes the deeds of others and you just being connected to them can sometimes cause great harm.
02:54:28.560that could, you know, require you to step away or to not be involved or what have you,
02:54:36.080or perhaps even bridge the gaps and make amends or stop things from causing that discord in your
02:54:46.080life or your family's life or what have you. That's a tough question because it involves a lot
02:54:52.220of personal map making on yourself. Because beyond, you know, holding trough and loyalty to
02:55:02.820the gods, the gods still don't alleviate us of our problems. They don't alleviate us from suffering
02:55:10.560or from, you know, challenges. I wouldn't even say suffering. It's, again, that it's more of
02:55:18.780challenges whether or not again how you take those things in and you know um rise from them
02:55:29.580i do believe that you can turn your luck and build your haminkia and um
02:55:37.260change your luck and it starts first and foremost with yourself the the ancestors and the gods
02:55:43.820those are good things like good points to go towards but they're in lieu of re re-examining
02:55:50.700yourself constantly and trying to find the source of that which might be dragging you down
02:56:00.300so i don't see you in the chat room right now book um and if you don't hear this i
02:56:09.660I will talk to you about it next time I see you.
02:56:13.560I hope that I see you at Yule at Odenshof.
03:08:31.240we're talking about important things but so often we answer these questions a very long time after
03:08:37.480they're asked so i hope that the folks that at that are asking the questions get the answer
03:08:45.400if not i hope it's beneficial for those who didn't ask them either way uh what are your thoughts on
03:08:53.640fear as it relates to the afterlife should we fear the afterlife should we fear the wrath of
03:09:02.440the gods and their judgment this is a topic that was brought up on dave martel's podcast
03:09:10.360where he claims that the idea of damnation is not a christian concept but a concept
03:09:16.040in all religions and that uh knife of hell is a very real reality for those who are wicked
03:09:25.880didn't act nobly or are simply not seen as worthy in the eyes of the gods
03:09:31.480what are your thoughts on this that's fine go ahead and take a swing at this first please
03:09:36.280Sure. Absolutely. I think first and foremost, the concept of being perhaps doomed or marked by the gods is clearly there.
03:09:49.700I think that Dave Martell is probably coming at it for more of a, I think, a concept that is not correct in the sense that there's a small group of people that think that perhaps you're going to be judged in the afterlife, in the underworld, by the gods, in a court-like system in which your Filchia is kind of like a lawyer.
03:10:19.700or, you know, a presiding tell of this.
03:10:24.620And I think that that's greatly miscued.
03:10:31.100The gods meet out the doom of men is what it's mentioned as.
03:10:42.300Just the word is translated into doom.
03:10:44.620Um, and I believe that the gods do watch us and that we should concern ourselves with how they regard us.
03:10:53.680I do not think that they are like, uh, perhaps like an Egyptian thing where they're, they're, you know, waiting for this moment to, you know, meet you in the underworld and, and, you know, weigh your deeds of your filth and so on and so forth.
03:11:08.160because I think that greatly takes away from the way our ancestors felt about acceptance by our ancestors.
03:11:15.560And that death and the underworld in great relation to Arian overall concepts
03:11:23.700is that the underworld and death itself is unwhole, if you will.
03:11:29.060And I use the word unholy, but in the sense it is unwhole, that the wholeness,
03:11:34.400The gods are wholeness. Mankind seeks wholeness. And when we are unwhole or unwell and things break apart, that is reserved for the place away from time.
03:11:46.900And we see this in relation to lots of Aryan stories about certain divine heroes or the gods themselves, in particular the striker, and not stepping foot into the underworld, not stepping foot into that which is far away from the gods and unhold.
03:12:06.860I think that there is a great mistranslation that's leading him to this.
03:12:12.560And that's where he's coming from, from a lore-based sense.
03:12:15.900The other thing, though, there is a secondary motivation there, and I think this motivation is somewhat correct, is that in this modern age, Ausatru, or particular, let's just say pagans or people of, like, either whether they're returning to it as an ethnic faith or perhaps they're, you know, the kind of people that we talk about a lot,
03:12:43.040the fly-by-night pagans, if you will. They're trying to initiate the conversation that there
03:12:54.880is a moral spectrum. The problem is that, of course, they framed it incorrectly. The idea
03:13:01.300is that the gods do mark us. We want to be witnessed. We want our deeds to be noticed.
03:13:07.260The gods don't notice every individual. They're not, again, weighing our hearts on the scales
03:13:12.420kind of thing. But they are noticing all of our overall weird that is being woven. They're
03:13:20.880noticing this through the well that is in heaven at the base of the tree. And they're looking into
03:13:26.920this well and seeing us and marking us for glory or marking us for detriment can oftentimes be
03:13:33.520switched based on need. We see this clearly over and over again with Odin choosing champions at
03:13:40.240the times often you know in most heated of battles in a in a uh searching for victory
03:13:46.460and then they're there they see ovin and he breaks their weapon and takes them at this point
03:13:53.040um again the gods do notice us and they do mark our deeds and weave us towards
03:13:58.420real and woe based on their machinations their choosings and the way that they interact with
03:14:07.140the middle world but there is another group that is also watching us and those are our ancestors
03:14:15.380we want our ancestors to see our deeds and how they see us is more or less i think
03:14:22.900their connection to us that ultimately we are flowing to them and so if we dishonor them
03:14:32.340them, they enact a barring because the threshold between us and them is death itself. Helheim
03:14:43.620and the bridge over Helheim and Mothguth are clearly elements about, and Garm, about death
03:14:53.380and the non-return and the barring from our ancestors. And it is there that it's determined
03:15:00.440by this battle strength, Mavgud, that you are directed to descend down and over the river Gjöl,
03:15:10.340which is the river of screams and crying out, and over the river Sleev, and you end up in Naustrand.
03:15:19.200Now, Helheim is said to be at the edge of Niflheim or Niflhel, the misty place,
03:15:26.440um and or the misty home or the misty place of the realm of shade and death and clearly the
03:15:34.000the rivers that are associated with this place are primordial and the names are all extremely
03:15:39.340heavily connected to the to death what exudes from hellheim is the source of what i call the
03:15:47.960calamity of of the folk is the things that make things unwhole the breaking down but it's controlled
03:15:55.640and it's with purpose the inevitable breaking down of all things and so when we break down
03:16:02.460in our deaths and uh we seek to reconnect to our folk soul we can be barred by them as well
03:16:10.180especially if we've been marked by the gods as unworthy or what really the word would be like
03:16:16.400a need or a needling a needling a person who is uh and this is clearly a word that was used in
03:16:24.280in, uh, old Nordic society. The idea of a needling is a person who has committed egregious acts
03:16:32.500against, uh, perhaps cultural norms, um, legalities, uh, marriages, which are, I guess would be
03:16:41.900legalities, um, and, or, uh, great, you know, like overall natural laws that are, you know,
03:16:48.720not to be broken. And I think that it creates this three system, again, the upper, middle,
03:16:56.340and lower is that we should seek to be noble amongst our folk. We should seek to be witnessed
03:17:04.980by the gods and that we are marked with blessing and boon, not woe and dishonor. So we should be
03:17:13.700concerned with that and that we are not barred away by our ancestors and forced to cross over
03:17:20.520the rivers that lead to us losing who we are and ending up on the other side of those banks
03:17:28.380where, you know, all manner of foul and shaded beasts and serpents reside. And I think that
03:17:36.800that's pretty clear in our stories. I just think that he's got it a bit wrong and he's trying to
03:17:41.720facilitate a translational point of view. But it's important that we don't get into the idea that
03:17:51.240our religion doesn't have a moral framework. I would argue that it greatly does in all three
03:18:00.500levels. And it's very important that we concern ourselves with them in order to make sure that we
03:18:06.620are not seen as oath breakers, that we are not seen as people who, um, you know, turn on our
03:18:12.220brothers and, and so on and so, so forth. So being a needlinger, um, is, you know, I think a concern
03:18:19.540that we should have. And it's every Aryan group has definitive views of this, whether it's like
03:18:27.680a caste system and the idea that you've been marked and that you will descend or you will
03:18:32.140ascend based on your marking being good, or that you somehow are cursed to reside in a place or
03:18:40.500be a ghost that haunts a place of their folly. I think that he's ultimately trying to say that
03:18:50.320modern practitioners of these kind of paganist ideas, whether it's Wicca or whatever, that
03:19:00.800they're gravitating to it with a sense that there is no moral compunction of judgment but in lieu
03:19:07.760of that they have replaced uh the judgment of yahweh to like the gods holding council in the
03:19:13.860underworld and there's a court and things like that i think that's greatly misplaced but the
03:19:20.520gods are watching and they do mark people for greatness that's all right oh lord so first
03:20:15.800But in a biblical understanding of Christianity, it's not linked to your behavior.
03:20:22.700If you repent and you have faith in Jesus, then you're good.
03:20:29.940You're judged righteous. You get to approach the throne of Yahweh in heaven. It's all good. Your judgment is based on how effectively you give praise and worship to Yahweh, not based upon the rightness or wrongness of your action, not based upon your deeds.
03:20:56.300It's one of the fundamentals that affected my change.
03:21:12.420It was a very fast movement, but it wasn't linear.
03:21:17.740It was being a Jehovah's Witness, rejecting that, rejecting Christianity, having nothingness, but being a person that believed in something more than re-embracing the folk faith of my ancestors.
03:21:38.660but it wasn't there was no point in time where i was doing a comparison between house the true
03:21:46.980and christianity i was comparing christianity to itself and to rightness or wrongness and
03:21:53.820rejecting it of its own merits and then looking at what remained what were options
03:22:01.740and embracing one that was the ancestral faith of my folk and that was right.
03:22:11.880And I think the fundamental comes in in a couple of ways.
03:22:16.420So, behavior is right or wrong, regardless of your sycopanthy towards deity or not.
03:22:32.500I am all for worship, and I understand that we are much less than our gods,
03:22:42.900and we ought to give them worship and worship them as gods, certainly.
03:22:50.560But that's not the basis of our right and our wrong.
03:22:55.440One of the things that I think was very useful to me in my mind
03:23:00.960was how often that Christianity compares their God to a father.
03:29:14.620Because a family that may not be rich or famous or celebrated in their land, if one of their sons or one of their daughters does something great to where they're celebrated in a bigger way by a king, by a president, by a mayor, by someone, it lifts them all up because they share in the pride they have for one of theirs doing good.
03:29:44.620So, should we live in fear of judgment?
03:29:50.960No, we should bust our butts to earn glory and to be great.
03:29:58.260Sitting around being scared for doing something bad is a waste of time.
03:33:33.700I think that everyone should read it, but about once a year I read The 48 Laws of Power.
03:33:40.760It's a very interesting book and it's helped me kind of understand people's motivations and kind of able to frame them and word lock them into places of where I just, it helps you see where some people may have ill intentions or great intentions for themselves, but not for anyone else around them.
03:34:10.760Um, or you could be one of those people, but, um, it's a, it's a pivotal book in, um, a lot of my interactions and worldviews with people and, um, not.
03:34:37.980Um, yes. Uh, the book itself, like I said, it's not, it's not necessarily a book I adore. I don't necessarily adore the author. Um, however, it's kind of like getting a, uh, an owner's manual into the, um, at the best, the ambitious, which is fine.
03:34:58.500at the worst, the, you know, the conniver, the cheater, the, um, the one that's so ambitious
03:35:05.900that he's willing to, you know, lay down a lot of his moral worth in order to attain power.
03:35:14.540Um, well, and the 50th law is of course, written with a rapper and that whole thing. I don't know
03:35:24.620that's all about and again i i so okay pause i joke i've read every single book in that series
03:35:31.660including that one and i like them i just thought i would be remiss if i did not remark on that
03:35:39.820yeah that book in and of itself kind of was redundant to me because of my own experiences
03:35:46.060versus i think what they were trying to do is create shock value towards perhaps an average
03:35:52.860american who hasn't had any great brush strokes with violence and um so it was kind of redundant
03:35:59.740for me and i think it was very very biased based on you know north american black gang culture
03:36:08.380that didn't really that didn't hold a lot for me you know i will say this to that book though it
03:36:16.940It puts – so all the other books by that Hebrew gentleman that wrote those books, what was his name?
03:36:32.520His last name was Green but spelled –
03:41:43.960So, I know that the format for these when we've got the little fun bells and whistles is to immediately stop everything and celebrate the person who donated.
03:41:55.160i want to do that the best we can but i think that stopping the flow of conversation when it's
03:42:03.800about something really serious is counterproductive to the religious purpose of our program but i
03:42:10.560appreciate the donations more than you guys realize so hoffenon donated ten dollars wants
03:42:16.140to give a shout out to the sons of the high one they would never boast so i'll do it for them
03:42:21.640great guys great deeds if you guys haven't seen it and i'm looking forward to checking it out so
03:42:28.980we've got a group of volunteers at odenshoff that are absolutely amazing um
03:42:39.520they have put in so much work to make that place beautiful and special they've got a special
03:42:48.320skill set as far as you know remodeling work and things that way and
03:42:55.040doesn't make sense if you guys haven't been there and so i won't belabor you with it a little bit
03:43:02.360but the stuff they've done is really amazing i was able to see a little bit of it a few months ago
03:43:09.460like the last time i was open at ovens at opens off was winter finding back in september it's
03:43:18.500been that long because the past was closed and iffy due to weather conditions one uh i believe
03:43:25.860last month for feast of the iron yard and i was really sick for uh winter nights
03:43:32.660no i don't think i was but mandy and aubrey were anyways there was a sickness going around my
03:43:40.480family so i haven't been there in a few months this weekend here in just a couple of days i'm
03:43:45.800going over for yule and i'm so excited to see the work they've done i've seen pictures those guys
03:43:52.620are doing amazing amazing work and we appreciate them and i know that the all father appreciates
03:44:00.500the work they're putting in on his temple the first half for odin in easily a thousand years
03:44:09.380they're doing really special work and i appreciate uh you hoffing on for giving them a shout out
03:44:16.360some recognition and giving us ten dollars thank you very much and a twenty dollar donation from
03:44:22.860the phelpses is can you tell us about your favorite children's books hail the future generations of
03:44:30.500the afa one of the most beautiful things is watching families grow from within the afa
03:44:40.900and i have been able to see that happen i have been able to participate in that
03:44:47.300i met mandy through the afa we've had our beautiful little baby daughter aubrey through the afa
03:47:08.260They get their presents, and then they're having fun.
03:47:10.480Anyway, she's excited because she's able to point out where he's hiding and then in the subsequent rounds where he's not hiding anymore because he's sleeping and behaving himself.
03:47:21.920That is not at all interesting to those of you who are not parents, but that's kind of where we're at on the storytelling because she's not really following it.
03:47:31.140She's more excited about looking at the pictures and the differences.
03:47:35.740so uh a side note though also because you gave us um 20 bucks so i'll give you i'll give you
03:47:45.100bonus content i remember there's two things i remember when i was little about my dad reading
03:47:54.620me. First one, Couscous the Mongoose. I need to find it. I need to find that book. I need to read
03:48:07.980it to Aubrey. I remember nothing about it except for Couscous and Mongoose were funny words to me
03:48:15.540and I was a little kid and I didn't know what they were. Also though, and this one is really,
03:48:23.680really, really important. He read me the story of the Emperor's New Clothes.
03:48:33.980The lessons in that and the full circle of it, I understand that people listening to this maybe
03:48:43.700have a variety of opinions on this, and this is not the point of it.
03:48:48.900but we see this a lot in 2020 during the response to COVID-19
03:49:02.520I remember talking to my dad my stepmom is a retired cardiac nurse so she's knee-deep in the
03:49:15.800medical industrial complex um my step brother i believe he has a phd he certainly has his
03:49:29.440masters but i believe he has phd as well in epidemiology and he worked with fauci and them
03:49:37.660at the the center for disease control and so he's all in on the vaccinations and stuff
03:49:45.780and they were really all in on all of the uh hysteria that went with the covid thing
03:49:54.880and i remember talking to my dad as a you know at the time 40 41 year old man
03:50:34.060And I'm very thankful about that lesson because I found that lesson teaching me things.
03:50:45.640Shoot, you know, what, 35 years later or whatnot as a grown man,
03:50:54.180the lesson was more poignant than it was the day it was told to me.
03:51:01.160I thought it was funny because the illustrations in this book have this emperor with his crown or whatever,
03:51:07.380and he's standing around naked, and I'm a little kid, and I'm laughing.
03:51:13.860But those lessons stuck with me my entire life, and I think that's really important.
03:51:19.660um that probably i don't know got more serious than the the question had intended
03:51:32.940it's fun do you have any favorite children's books
03:51:37.100uh yeah i really like to read there is a book called read to me grandma and it is a collection
03:51:47.260of, um, bedtime stories and, uh, fairy tales. And it's very well, uh, the art is, you know,
03:51:57.840it's superbly illustrated and, um, it's easy to read and it's my four-year-old really likes it.
03:52:03.920Um, I think all of my children when at the age of four really liked it. Um,
03:52:10.280i think that the other one that i i'm i really i actually had to hop off to find it real quick
03:52:19.080because i actually have it right nearby so i was going to say um tales of norse mythology
03:52:27.280by a and e curie um done by uh these these two sisters and it was written um in the late 1800s
03:52:38.460early 1900s. And, um, it is an, a really interesting book. And my, my son finds it
03:52:48.420really interesting because it's written in such a way that it's very similar to perhaps like an
03:52:54.320Arthurian or, uh, I don't know, perhaps just a, a romantic period, um, story of chivalry and
03:53:04.140nobleness in the high courts of the gods um in such a way that's very different than um any of
03:53:14.040the others there are some inconsistencies uh they they do tell a perfect example one that i was
03:53:21.500reading the other night is uh they they speak of uh lady freya as being the daughter of the lord
03:53:31.260of the ocean, which is correct in the sense of Njord, but they misplace it to Ayr. But ultimately,
03:53:42.040the poetics of the story about the loss of Odur and crying gold and amber into the ocean and the
03:53:54.140land was really, really beautiful. So there is a lot of great stuff in this book and it, it,
03:54:01.260it just, it reads differently. It changes a lot of the, even just the tone of the whole book
03:54:11.000has a majestic sense of the gods in the way I think that we should view them. I think that
03:54:21.500It kind of pulls away from simply, I think a lot of modern books are trying to harken back.
03:54:27.660If you go on Amazon, you buy a book on Norse mythology and it's, you know, the stories are kind of written in a dumpy, craggy sense or there might be some modernism thrown in there.
03:54:41.440This has both kind of an air of the time it was written and a majesty that I can't even begin to explain.
03:54:51.000The other thing is the truly interesting way that they translate Old Norse and instead seek to kind of create anglicized versions that are more easier to understand and to pronounce.
03:55:10.060Like they call the Aesir, they say the Asas because a singular plus plural in our language is by adding an S as opposed to the Old Norse of changing the into an AE and adding an R or the Vanir become the Van or the Vana.
03:55:31.420And so it's it's an interesting and easy way to read to your kids and get them kind of started in Old Norse language without hitting them with a lot of words and names and things that are very hard to say.
03:55:50.580um even for the if you're a you know a native uh or i mean uh you're speaking english and it's hard
03:55:57.720for you to um you know to pronounce these things it eases them but uh just like an example is when
03:56:05.540balder uh goes to frigga uh in the story he it's described again that she resides in a crystalline
03:56:14.820salon and that he comes in and he's holding the dream that he has upon his chest he says that
03:56:25.120there is a black spot growing upon his heart and that spot is death and if he lets it go it will
03:56:33.080cover cover the world in shadow and so he shall not release it and it came to him in a dream
03:56:40.200And I just thought that was such good storytelling about a great amount of the spirit in the stories that, yeah, the Tales of Norse Mythology by A.N.E. Kiri, K-E-A-R-Y, phenomenal book for ages like 8 to 14, if you're trying to read the stories.
03:57:09.960Again, you might have to piece through it and realign some things because they were writing at a time where, you know, back then they were getting some of the details mixed up, if you will.
03:57:22.700But it's the same with the book Children of Ode, and that book is greatly misaligned in certain spots.
03:57:32.780So as a random aside with Script Kitty, good to see you here tonight.
03:57:39.400Um, so we do this because you are literally the face of the Ask True Folk Assembly as a folk builder. Script Kitty in the chat is Lydia Phelps. And I just wanted to say thank you so much for all the work you're doing on our websites. You're doing awesome stuff. They look beautiful. Thank you very much for that.
03:58:05.800but also she talked about you know what she said what an accomplished family um
03:58:14.200feel the need to put it out there i'm really uh
03:58:20.360real proud of my family and what they've been able to accomplish
03:58:26.920my mother got her master's in education you guys may or may not know she passed away in
03:58:34.840I have to look, but I'm pretty sure April of this last year.
03:58:41.320She got her master's in elementary education.
03:58:45.380Her and my father divorced when I was in elementary school.
03:58:48.680I think it was about fifth or sixth grade.
04:04:42.240And I think that was a thing for that generation a lot.
04:04:46.640My father and my stepmother, they've stayed really active.
04:04:51.200Now, COVID really hurt them because it kept them homebound for a couple of years there.
04:04:55.840But, man, they're out world traveling and hiking and skiing and doing adventurous things into their 70s.
04:05:06.300And that's really an inspiration to me in my life to, you know, stay young for our daughter as best we can and stay vital and active people.
04:05:17.380And I think really highly of that and have a lot of respect for that.
04:05:22.560I think that's taught us a lot of things.
04:05:25.840When you're in these later hours of Victory Never Sleeps, you tend to wax a little bit philosophical about life.
04:10:23.020So not only having a clean break between the one before starting the other, the other thing to, even if you don't feel it yet, to conceptualize when you're considering it, you're not converting to Ausitru.
04:10:46.000You're reverting to your default settings as an Aryan person.
04:10:53.020Religion, outside of Abrahamic faiths, religion was never a smorgasbord of choosing what you want.
04:11:09.420Your religion was dictated by who you were, where you are from, where are your people from, who are your people.
04:11:18.660And when you answer the question, who are your people, who are your gods, is intrinsic to the answer of who are your people.
04:11:30.500So when you're becoming Ausatru or embracing Ausatru, you're not converting to something new, foreign, or different.
04:11:42.800you're coming home to the natural spiritual condition of your soul of your genetics of your
04:11:52.560person so it's not that you're converting to something different it's that you're shedding
04:12:01.440all of the layers on top of who you are and you're re-embracing who you are on a fundamental level
04:22:47.100It has a relationship to other persons.
04:22:49.820applying the name does something magically that transmuted transmutes it from a thing to a person
04:23:01.600in the broadest possible sense obviously a sword is not the same as a human
04:23:08.760but having a name makes it something different than the millions of other swords that the
04:23:17.740blacksmith makes and puts in a pile that somebody on the front line has
04:23:22.480those are but those are swords i am tearful and um
04:23:32.760with that and an award in a sense that's a purpose so when you bestow a name
04:23:42.920you imbue it with purpose if it's a weapon maybe that is a purpose towards
04:23:52.480conquest or towards dealing death or towards protecting the wielder or something along those
04:24:03.520lines if you are imbuing armor or something that's whole purposes to protect then maybe that is a
04:24:12.480It is to protect you from evil. It is to keep you safe from harm. It is to keep the wearer full of life and energy. Whatever those might be, perhaps there is a warding that's involved.
04:24:27.740I think it's worth calling attention to the AFA sword, Relentless.
04:24:39.960We went through a naming ceremony in the same way that we name a child,
04:24:46.020by imbuing it with three runes, by giving it a name.
04:24:51.100And Relentless is a blade that was, again, Svahn talks about blades of legends being formed, made by dwarves and all these things.
04:32:32.900and the jehovah's witnesses impressed me with how biblical they were
04:32:37.940how much they stuck to biblical christianity and they pushed away
04:32:44.900christianity tainted by paganism but it taught me very starkly the difference between the two
04:32:53.460I have had no relationship with my aunt or my cousins since then so almost 20
04:33:06.300years now no more than 20 years now it's very close to my cousins growing up to
04:33:15.720many of them and to my aunt um they were so strongly in quote unquote the truth that
04:33:28.700i had been disfellowshipped and they ought not to associate with me that i may not stumble them
04:33:35.760in their practice so uh yeah i have i have no relationship with that part of my family
04:33:43.900unfortunately for the last 20 years uh and i don't put that all on them i could have tried
04:33:51.020better myself to maintain that there always seemed to be a a blockage towards that because they knew
04:33:59.420that not only so if you are baptized joe's witness and you decide that's the wrong way to go
04:34:11.420So you are considered an apostate by their faith, and they are to disassociate with you because there's the fear that you will try to drag them away from being a Jehovah's Witness, which that's fair.
04:34:34.780I would absolutely encourage my cousins to embrace their ancestral faith of Al-Satru and to bring them out of Jehovah's Witnesses.
04:34:47.620I get that. I understand that. According to their faith, I'm absolutely an apostate. I get it.
04:34:56.960And quite honestly, after having been baptized, I am an oath-breaker too.
04:35:02.160i don't choose to make that my identity but i own that that's honest i made that agreement
04:35:12.000and i know that it's wrong and i've chosen to break that agreement that i made
04:35:19.200and i own the consequence of that whatever that consequence might be
04:35:25.280but it's either that or spend you know at that time the next you know what 60 years of my life
04:35:34.420doing something I know was wrong because I made a poor choice I've chosen to take whatever hit
04:35:42.920that might give me but to spend the next 60 years of my life from that point shoot maybe I'll live
04:35:52.240into my 150s, and there'll be more than that, but I chose to break that relationship that I knew was
04:36:00.780wrong to pursue something, to stop, start fresh, and to live a life that was authentic. In doing so,
04:36:11.680that led me to house the truth. I don't regret it for a second, but I don't pretend that I didn't
04:36:19.320make a make an oath that i went back on and that's honest unfortunately these are the
04:36:30.680you know ugliness that makes up authentic existence in life is sometimes
04:42:03.780Them looking you in the eye and seeing the reaction you have to something rude or inappropriate or hurtful that they say is very impactful on a fundamental human level
04:42:26.020that bypasses all of what we think about ourselves
04:42:31.300and how hard and how keeping it gangster we think we are.
04:42:37.920There's a way you behave when you're looking someone in the face
04:42:43.460that's very, very, very different than people often behave behind a keyboard.
04:42:52.700and again seriously with legal consequences and everything else
04:42:59.000it's not about fear of physical retribution you have to deal with the fact you hurt somebody's
04:43:07.620feelings and that they're looking at you hurt because you've wounded them because you said
04:43:14.320something inappropriate, or that their kids look at you because you've just insulted
04:43:24.680and humiliated their father or their mother, and the child looks at you in a way, and you
04:43:32.560don't want to deal with that, or that you're surrounded by a group of normal, respectable
04:43:40.420people, and you've said something low-class and inappropriate, and they're all looking
04:43:49.160at you like you're a degenerate or a misfit or something abominable, and you have to reconcile
04:44:00.360that. And that reconciliation is overwhelming to some of the guys that I've met in my time
04:44:10.680that are the quote unquote hardest dudes out there. No, I've never encountered that.
04:44:20.740What I have done that's really cool is a lot of people have acknowledged and said,
04:44:27.380hey is that a thor's hammer which is cool even better hey i like your mjolnir that's awesome
04:44:41.700i've had that a lot i've never once had a random person in the community
04:44:48.180see my mule there or any of the afa attire that i wear all the time because that's the only hoodies
04:44:58.500that i own um or for that matter it's the only gym pants that i own nobody's ever come up and
04:45:09.900tried to start something with me over that again i don't think it's because i'm such a badass
04:46:09.860We've seen it in a small scale with each of our Hoffs.
04:46:16.420We have people that want to criticize each of our Hoffs and talk about whatever they Googled online and found out we're, you know, practicing.
04:46:28.880We're guilty of wrong think or whatever else.
05:01:58.100And from there, and in that process, trying to do the right things at the right time, through the generosity of our folk, I was able to arrange to where that 10-year note was paid off within two to three years.
05:02:17.200And immediately, because this is our commitment, I wanted to establish Thorson.
05:02:25.300we looked we found an area to where we had a lot of our folk to where we had people that said they
05:02:32.740would be true to it that had asked for it that said they would rise to the occasion
05:02:38.180their bowels turned to water and they ran other people stood up to make
05:08:09.360It was more expensive than the others, we were able to get an independent investor and
05:08:18.400one of our members to give us two loans to get that.
05:08:23.320We've paid off the member, we've paid off one of the loans, we still have about 99,000
05:08:29.860withstanding on one of the loans from a gentleman in California, and we're working diligently
05:08:37.420to pay that off so we're working on paying that off and as soon as it's paid off i really hope
05:08:43.980and i think that if we try hard we can do it in 2024 we can move on to trying to get phrase off
05:08:52.780in 2025 and that's the plan we're going to work very hard towards it but again it's due to you
05:09:00.060guys your generosity and the blessings of our gods and i'm very very appreciative of that
05:09:07.420Um, so I gots to post about some of our donations in the meantime, because it's the right thing to do.
05:09:18.420And I'm sorry I went off on a tangent there.
05:09:21.180Jimmy Crack Corn and I Do Care for $5, hail the gods, who's down for a late night sleep drunk donation train.
05:09:33.560Give to our church, give to the gods. I'm all about that. All right, cool. So we appreciate that. Baldur's Hoff, bestest Hoff. I don't know if that's dubious. A $1 donation, a dollar train, choo-choo. May the bestest Hoff win.
05:09:56.960i'm all for people getting on that dollar train i don't know if one dollar
05:10:02.640makes baldur's off the bestest off we'll see um i'll see coleman miller bought us a five dollar
05:10:11.660coffee thank you for oh wow bought us a looks like five five dollar coffees for 25 bucks
05:12:28.520And I believe very much that's how the ancient priesthood worked
05:12:32.240But you all asking and participating in this process is how we're able to disseminate that information.
05:12:42.140And I appreciate that in a lot of ways.
05:12:49.660So our next question is, how do you feel about companies who promote anti-white ideas and wokeness?
05:12:57.280Do you try to avoid buying products from such companies?
05:13:01.100what seems fun yes no uh we uh here if if it's known like i i um i don't know i'm trying to think
05:13:17.900of like anything in particular i i can't really other than maybe uh chick-fil-a i don't particularly
05:13:28.780like to support them uh mainly because of some of the the things that they have turned towards and
05:13:35.020they used to be staunchly against and then they have kind of turned and again like you said their
05:13:43.100their uh guts have turned to water and they've they've uh no longer you know stood strong against
05:13:50.300things but outside of that i can't really recall unless it's like an immediate thing i i i try not
05:13:57.020to i don't really support netflix i think i got away from that during the whole cuties thing
05:14:04.620they're promoting a lot of uh degenerate stuff towards children um or about children um
05:14:14.060i mean those are that's the two right off the top of my head but i i just try not to interact
05:14:18.700too much with uh companies that make money off of um their disdain for my people or uh oftentimes
05:14:28.220too like even though i know um some entertainment groups and things like that they are being kind
05:14:35.900of infiltrated by um you know marxist post-modernists or whatever you want to call them
05:14:45.080And I just try to avoid supporting any groups that kind of outwardly show that or try to create verbiage or, you know, doing things in which they want to adjust people's ways of thinking towards Marxist ideals or, you know, global socialist ideas.
05:15:08.900Anything like that, I try to, you know, steer away from on a general sense.
05:15:14.160but um it's hard to keep a list of that to try to keep all that organized the the number
05:15:26.240groweth if you will a lot and i i find it's like it's not that i mean i i suppose
05:15:37.080the deep dive is if you look into it too deep you end up finding out like you know these companies
05:15:44.420that are supporting uh things that are kind of benign but you look at these titles like
05:15:50.020if they're talking about like comic book protection group and then it turns out they're
05:15:56.220trying to you know defend the uh the um like illustrated homosexual book pamphlets that are
05:16:05.640in public schools now and it's it's all hidden in these benign titles and i mean to a degree it's
05:16:14.060worth looking into it's making sure that you don't give over much to people that are clearly
05:16:19.200malicious or venomous um to decency or just to our people but it's you know it's hard i mean i'm
05:16:31.440I imagine the best thing that we can do is, of course, try to work within, you know, local groups that, you know, even people that I don't know or people that are non-folk or what have you.
05:16:53.480as long as they're kind of running their own businesses and doing their own
05:16:56.660things, I'm open to trade. I'm open to, um, you know,
05:17:00.660exchanging goods and farmers markets and all kinds of stuff,
05:17:04.900but there's some, some things you can't get away from, uh, you know,
05:17:17.220And I don't know if she's still CEO was saying that she was no longer going
05:17:20.380to hire a white people or something like that.
05:17:23.160And it was just, you know, it was said, and at a certain point you can't say anymore, like, oh, well, if a white person had said that, or you could go down that line over and over and over again, a thousand times a day, at the end of the day, it's, you know, you just kind of pick and choose.
05:17:40.480so like i think i was a member at sam's club and um there was something said like that so i just
05:17:46.680i was like no i'm taking taking away my membership and i'm gonna go over to uh another place and i
05:17:53.520you know another wholesaler that uh doesn't make a habit of making their um politics known or or
05:18:01.040what have you or their their racial biases um because in reality too like i think a lot of
05:18:07.840people have a lot of misconceptions about us as a folkish people uh they think that we you know
05:18:14.320somehow uh harbor hatred or resentment towards other people i i deal with people of all different
05:18:21.180types of ethnicities all the time and as long as you know they're decent and up front and i'm up
05:18:27.780front and a lot of times we get things done and and carry on about our day and oftentimes very
05:18:34.160nicely. So here in the South, there's a lot of nice people. So, you know, go about our lives
05:18:42.380perfectly fine without a lot of like, I think that these, the stuff that these internet
05:18:49.400warriors and people that aren't looking at you in the face or just in general, you know,
05:18:54.540their, their vitriol that they kind of reserve for their ideologies online versus the reality
05:19:02.340of things so i would say yes i do avoid certain things if i'm aware within a certain degree um i
05:19:14.260think my family kind of does but we don't limit ourselves so much to the point where we're
05:19:20.180suffering or the idea that we're just grinding away at like oh do they do they hate white people
05:19:26.100do they hate white people or you know look into it too much it's like we just
05:19:29.940um focus too much on that and i i have found that it ends up you know generally we focus
05:19:40.500more locally and and we meet people that are um uh you know in the same lines like it's so funny
05:19:48.500to me there's um a couple of um business owners they're not folk but they're pretty conservative
05:19:55.140or they're pretty right wing or whatever you want to label it as, or, or just, you know,
05:20:00.340generally normal people and, um, find a lot of commonality with them, uh, in a lot of regards.
05:20:08.700Um, they're very proud of who they are, very proud of who I am, but at the same time, they're,
05:20:15.200they're decent people. And so I can interact with them quite easily. And, and we, I find myself
05:20:22.840very oftentimes looking in the same direction as them going oh this is terrible like who are these
05:20:29.400absolute psychopaths that we're you know standing on the ship with um or that we're trapped in the
05:20:37.160elevator with or however you want to look at it but um yeah try not to make it too much
05:20:43.880a defining factor for myself it's just if it's blatant then yeah i'm not i'm not supporting that
05:22:12.360vastly more for a product because it's american made by people i agree with if it's half as
05:22:25.000expensive from the chinese and i may not be popular it's just honest as a father that deals
05:22:35.380with buying things for his family yeah i go walmart and i get cheap chinese crap a lot
05:22:47.860trying to base my family's finances on artisanally made whatever is just that's not how we succeed
05:23:00.580that said we live in a really strange time
05:23:05.980and this may feel differently from people younger than myself
05:23:15.760but I was you know I'm a child of the 1980s I grew up you know communism is the devil
05:23:27.160It's all about Rambo and Rocky and Hulk Hogan, communism bad, and America good.
05:23:38.320Now we have to go to Russia, Eastern Europe, and to China for freedom because we don't have freedom over here.
05:23:52.380Everything is woke. Everything is LGBTQ and whatever else they decide to throw in.
05:24:05.620And in order to have traditional values, very often we have to purchase things from communist countries or countries that were, you know, until very recently communist countries.
05:24:22.380Sad as that is, the Chinese don't tell me what a horrible person I am
05:24:31.560if I want to make things that express pride in who I am.
05:24:37.120If I want to get products that support my race and my religion
05:24:45.660and the things that are important to me,
05:24:48.540they're very happy to make those for me at a reasonable cost.
05:24:52.380Whereas American companies won't, because wokeness dictates that they virtue signal at the expense of my religious practice.
05:25:02.160It's very hard for a man from a patriotic lineage and born and raised in the 1980s
05:26:41.580um we live in very strange times and the decisions that you make today are
05:26:49.500very very different than they may have been 30 40 years ago
05:26:55.020when your children are older and they figure out santa is not real do you try to tie that
05:27:08.680into house of truth like in a way he is real because he is odin or something it's fun what
05:27:16.280are your what are your inclinations towards that you have much older children than i do
05:27:23.880um i think my eldest is starting to suspect uh but you have to understand um one thing that we do
05:27:33.400in my house is that the yule elf uh is called by the yule log the log is lit the yule elf comes
05:27:41.720and then we burn a yulebok so that he can ride to the ancestors and bring the ancestors gifts
05:27:50.040and then we talk about the ancestors on ancestors night and there's a lot more to it uh we don't
05:27:59.400really even the uh like i tell the children like no the santa claus that um people that celebrate
05:28:09.320christmas and the santa claus that's um that's not the old way that's not our way our way is
05:28:18.280older and that's where they got it from the santa claus character is the yule elf but um
05:28:24.840um you know my kids kind of when they're young they're just like okay that's fine and when
05:28:30.740they're older they're like no we like they understand my my eldest understands it's an
05:28:36.640older way but as they get older i think that ultimately what's going to stay there is the
05:28:43.800the poignant parts about the yule elf in our house one greed and miserliness is bad
05:28:51.240um buying gifts for your family and ensuring that you build that love and friendship and
05:29:00.360enjoyment with each other and share with each other is key and ultimately too never forgetting
05:29:07.580where you come from and the people who who uh still care about you so the the gifts from the
05:29:13.460ancestors in relation to the sweaters and the socks and the jackets and the books and all of
05:29:19.560those things that come from them that want us to be better stronger uh well taken care of
05:29:26.020that magic never really goes away despite the reality of the situation and the yule elf is
05:29:33.040the spirit of giving within the house because i you know my children you know they know that
05:29:42.420yule elf when we light that yule log our yule elf for our family goes to our ancestors and brings
05:29:49.700back those gifts so it is unique to us and us alone and every family that lights the yule log
05:29:57.140calls their yule elf and so it makes complete sense to them and ultimately i think you know as
05:30:05.060might say my eldest gets closer to an understanding i think he'll see those points
05:30:12.040more importantly and he'll understand the the joy of of um really cultivating the magic in our
05:30:18.480children um i think a lot of people modernists are like why would you lie to your children or
05:30:24.260they get this kind of shmarmy uh intellectualism about it and they they they forget that sometimes
05:30:31.980uh cultivating magic and happiness and children is often predicated on um
05:30:40.760hopes dreams and things like that and basically people that you know piss on that idea are people
05:30:49.680themselves who no longer have any hopes dreams or or happiness and um and again too they they lose
05:30:56.040they they were probably not part of being the the whole growth of a family where the eldest
05:31:03.320suddenly comes to learning about things but then he participates in the tradition from the other
05:31:09.540side and it's like now he he or she is you know older now feels older like they're a part of a
05:31:16.200threshold and now they're on their way to becoming an adult um but they still understand that the
05:31:22.740magic is important for their siblings their younger siblings i think that um that's really
05:31:28.880important and i don't really abide by the um that that uh santa claus or the the yule elf is is odin
05:31:38.940or thor um i i have always in my family the yule elf is a spirit of our family and it grows old
05:31:48.700with us and as long as we keep the tradition going and my kids are pulling you know pictures
05:31:55.100of me down from the the mantle to tell their kids about the gifts that i got them for yule
05:32:00.700and so on and so forth for generations and generations to come every yule you know i'll
05:32:07.500be remembered uh on ancestors night i'm perfectly happy with that magic so
05:32:18.700Yeah. I don't have firsthand with my child doing that yet because Aubrey's three and a half. It's kind of cool. This is her first Yule that she's really aware and excited about Yule.
05:32:56.100I think it's telling when children discover that, you know, it's really your parents putting presents there and not Santa Claus.
05:33:11.700if you react in some kind of extreme how dare you betray me everything you've told me is a lie
05:33:22.600that's indicative of something's wrong in your family
05:33:27.460um that was not my experience growing up i don't think that's most of our experience growing up
05:33:41.700I don't see these generations of my ancestors who are so betrayed
05:33:47.940that their parents lied to them about Santa Claus.
05:33:55.480I think that speaks to the soul sickness of our folk
05:33:59.840and to the woke, green-haired, nose-wearing nonsense
05:34:06.160sense of the people who are producing, if not raising kids today, that's an organic
05:34:21.260process that makes sense to everyone who's come before us up until this last generation
05:34:28.680Because all of a sudden, we're so woke that we don't lie.
05:34:34.720And those of you listening to this on Spotify, I'm using air quotes to our children by trying to infuse a little bit of magic in the world.
05:37:42.800We're understanding that Thor's powers and ability, his dominion in relation to the physical,
05:37:50.460whether it's, you know, the mystery of electricity and the electromagnet or the idea of the power that surrounds the earth in storms and how his divine dominion is huge.
05:38:08.080and he interacts with the world through what we would call the well of earth um but understanding
05:38:15.560that these are again like mythic concepts that have tangibility even more so when we're children
05:38:24.120but when we grow older we begin to conceive things a little bit more um i guess intimately
05:38:30.780metaphysical instead of supernatural and i think that that's important for our children to have
05:38:39.300that because you learn a might and a magic within it but then as you grow older you begin to
05:38:45.540understand that that might and magic has more of a tangible field in reality um and people lose that
05:38:53.680or they never gain it and then they they somehow feel that they've been lied to or something of
05:38:59.960that nature. They're so materialistically focused that they can't grasp neither the myth of childhood
05:39:08.120nor the meta of adulthood. They're just kind of stuck in some sort of modernist miasma.
05:39:19.080Unfortunately, that affects a lot of us.
05:39:23.780um so when i first started getting together with people up in anchorage alaska so outside of the
05:39:34.540context of the austral folk assembly it was kind of dealing with whoever was around me that said
05:39:43.240they were housing. And again, we, unfortunately, but it is what it is. We're at the stage we're
05:39:56.880at and we deal with a lot of very broken people. There was a girl named Lauren who would gather
05:40:09.520together with us she had a lot of damage a lot of stuff going on
05:40:17.520and she had this this thing she got in this struggle of wills with her dad when she was a kid
05:40:28.000about brushing her teeth and it's like he demanded that she brush her teeth and she somehow tricked him
05:40:37.440by not brushing her teeth but like wetting her toothbrush and some kind of nonsense
05:40:45.840and then from that day forward i didn't respect my dad because he couldn't force me to brush my teeth
05:56:32.480And I will remember it at some point, middle of the night,
05:56:37.300some random point, it will occur to me.
05:56:39.280I wish I could remember him right now, the name of the guy who carved these.
05:56:45.880But Svan, or not Svan, I'm sorry, Sean and his wife, and he had two, a son and a daughter.
05:56:57.220It was neat that I got to practice this with them a little bit.
05:57:01.060And this was in a time before I was a member of the AFA when they were trying to get me to be part of the Asatru Folk Revival.
05:57:14.840And this was a group that was being started.
05:57:18.340I would have been part of the big three, and it would have been Sean Ridland, myself, and run by Wyatt Caldenberg.
05:57:29.540and anybody who doesn't know he's the guy that way back when broke heraldo's nose
05:57:36.820on a famous episode of the heraldo show
05:57:42.100and i haven't heard about why in a really long time hope he's doing well he was a real nice
05:57:48.100guy when i did speak to him but anyway this was back then so i would say this was like 2008 2009
05:57:58.580Um, and we'd gone on this moose hunt. So, so Sean Ridland went on his hunt. I went on my hunt. Before we went on the hunt, we did bloat to Warren Uller. We asked for success. And I remember I offered into Sean's on his property is his, his ritual tree is ornament tree is whatever you want to call it. I had offered this customized
05:58:28.580bible that i got as a jehovah's witness when i was baptized
05:58:33.620so special and had my name embossed on it it was nice and i offered that to lord uller
05:58:43.060and we did we did this offering for uller bloat at winter finding and then we went out and we did
05:58:49.220our respective hunts and he and i had both been on different moose hunts here and there to see
05:58:55.860what happened it never got me so i went out and i uh like i said i went with about five guys
05:59:06.020who were very experienced hunters and here i am the rookie and i'm feverish with swine flu and i'm
05:59:14.340ridiculous embarrassment to myself just because i'm feverish and out of my mind
05:59:20.820we go out there in the middle of nowhere um we're there for like a week
05:59:28.500and though we hadn't gotten anything we were scoping up the mountain uh one of the members
05:59:34.740of our party got a caribou and that was really cool if you guys don't know anything caribou
05:59:41.460are like caribou and reindeer are the same animal um one of the other members of the hunting party
05:59:49.060had gotten a caribou and i helped him dress that out and that was cool and a good experience
05:59:56.980we were sitting there but the old timers and old timers at some of these things
06:00:02.340are just amazingly impressive with their wilderness lore and their ability to sight these things
06:00:10.740so we're in the middle of nowhere and we're scoping from the bottom of this riverbed we're
06:00:16.420scoping up these hillsides and within one like swing of the scope we could see moose up on a hill
06:00:28.420and bear and um doll sheep and mountain goats up on this one hill you could it was
06:00:38.100stuff that people who weren't in alaska would just do an aw over but that was fairly common
06:00:47.620in alaska when you were off the beaten path one of the blessings of being born and raised there
06:00:55.780so we saw these and the idea was we would scope them and we saw because the bull moose were in
06:01:02.100ruts they'd fight and then they'd come down in these valleys so we'd see them up on the hillside
06:01:07.300and see them when they start coming down to get water to get food to get whatever
06:01:14.420so in order to take a moose in this game management unit it had to be a certain distance
06:01:22.500the rack had to be a certain distance long or it had to have a certain number of brow times
06:01:28.260and to illustrate if i had thought about it and i hadn't i would walk downstairs and i'd give you
06:01:40.620a picture of the moose rack i have um but anyways so we had to interpret this but these old timers
06:01:48.840like this dude and i don't know how old he is i don't even know if he's still alive at this point
06:01:53.140These guys, like, in his 70s, he's not actively hunting.
06:01:57.100He's just down there cooking and sighting.
06:02:00.120And he sees this guy up the mountain, and he's, I mean, miles away.
06:02:04.940He's like, I think this guy's about the right, you know, right distance.
06:09:47.700it's kind of the generic pagans don't know what they're talking about we want to claim they're
06:09:52.500pagans i've never met but the caveat is that they're folkish which i don't think we see from
06:10:01.460in that crowd as often? Yeah, no, I've never met. I think the closest I've ever met is just
06:10:10.740a general, they don't like, you know, internet ninnies that try to control people's speech.
06:10:20.940And so they're more along the lines of like, I don't, you know, I'm not going to say something
06:10:28.260or I'm not going to be held liable for other people's feelings because of words.
06:10:35.540I've met a couple of people who are more of that mindset
06:10:38.560where they were just like of the McPagan group, I guess,
06:10:43.520but they were not going to play the whole gender smorgasbord
06:10:51.960or speaking about an individual person as if they're like a crowd.
06:10:56.660And they're just like, I'm not going to do that
06:11:00.660And that was kind of cool, a little refreshing
06:11:02.800At least they stood their ground on that, but never really folkish
06:11:07.160But the McPagan thing, that's a new one for me
06:11:10.980So, and this is kind of an innovative take on it
06:11:18.420Um, I have met quite a few skinheads that are also true because you're supposed to be, but don't possess a sincere faith in our gods,
06:11:41.740but are also true because if you're not on the inside, you get stabbed, to be honest.
06:11:59.600And I think that is the closest I can go on this.
06:12:04.320So I had, I've done some prison ministry visits to a facility out in California, and it's been interesting because 100% of the white inmates showed up to my Ausitru bloke.