00:13:13.420But there is a Yule video that we did as well on VNS.
00:13:17.240I think it'd be really good for folks to, you know, go back and and watch that one.
00:13:23.260We did cover Yule. And also, too, for folks that are in the church and that are on MeWe, I will be posting a video about the Iron Mark calendar and or just the counter of days really is what you should consider it.
00:13:42.840We use the Gregorian calendar as our mainstay, but a great way to do a counter counting of days without electronics and a way to kind of see the year through, you know, through mainly through our holy tides instead of, you know, through months that kind of shift around all the time.
00:14:05.480If anybody's interested, I'm posting a video over there about how to download it and to use it for the next coming year.
00:14:13.180Because Mother's Night is day zero, so it's kind of easier to just do it at that point.
00:14:20.960But I wanted to throw that out there as well.
00:14:29.640So we are going to be starting on chapter 47.
00:14:32.900all right i'm glad you remembered because that was actually further back
00:14:40.820yeah you were last week too i'm not sure yeah i don't know yeah i just i just remembered trying
00:14:48.460to plot it uh 23 per i think it ends up next week being 24 chapters
00:14:56.420but i've got i've seen um versions of this my version that i'm looking at goes chapter 92
00:15:04.600i've seen ones that only go to chapter 90 though so all right so there might be some
00:15:10.120differentiation between numbering my son right now is writing down the halvamal and um the the
00:15:19.360website that i i chose for him to do it is different than the one i normally pull up on my
00:15:24.640phone. So, and they were, uh, drastically different in number. Um, well, good. That's
00:15:30.960kind of a fun challenge to, I don't know, bring a new, new insight into it. Yeah. And I, I, I did
00:15:39.780tell them, you know, the, the, uh, our assembly, the, the Ausitra folk assembly tries to get all
00:15:46.540of them. They want, you know, it's, it's about the broad view. There's no, um, particular Messiah
00:15:52.200or scholarly prophet who um you know aha and and that's it so and then the the the translations to
00:16:03.200help with our understanding because if you don't understand the translations or if you do
00:16:08.820but it's interesting comparatively to another translation you end up finding a lot about the
00:16:15.520the gods even when it's you know it's just simply a word or i mean you and i were talking about
00:16:21.940that you know an hour ago um that's something anyone listening to this don't at all be
00:16:29.140intimidated you don't need to know any different language modern english or wherever you find
00:16:36.660yourself is fine it doesn't prevent you but i found a lot the more that you look into the
00:16:42.900linguistics it adds a richness and it helps develop a closer familiarity and it's really
00:16:51.300useful that way and that's that's from somebody who's been doing this for you know over two
00:16:56.980decades now so right i if i could turn back time i would have gotten more involved in the linguistics
00:17:05.860earlier on but if you guys don't know spawn and i are working on that as our other gothar in the
00:17:14.020Nyastru Folk Assembly. Icelandic is closer to Old Norse than Modern English is to Shakespeare,
00:17:24.660so it should be an easy enough transition from Modern Icelandic to incorporating Old Norse
00:17:31.440spellings and variants, and it'll get you a lot of the way if you learn Icelandic, which is no
00:17:39.800easy task i assure you but um pimpsler pimpsler is a online course that is got really cool apps
00:17:51.720it's got a really cool method to walk you through it um i'm on lesson 15 now and it
00:18:00.920i'm not gonna pretend that i speak icelandic fluently because i obviously do not but it's
00:18:06.120gotten me a lot closer and it's really helped it's the thing that's helped me the most any
00:18:10.280of the times i've tried in the past so if it's something that interests you guys that's something
00:18:14.600i would encourage you to look into um i think that's check one thing here yeah i would definitely
00:18:26.040say too that app is phenomenal it comes at the language from a totally different angle than like
00:18:34.600if you're used to duolingo no it it has a conversation between two native speakers and
00:18:40.920then it breaks down that conversation and it expands on ideas and context i felt like such a
00:18:49.240giddy little kid when i was first going through it because they start each thing
00:18:54.440just diving you into a short exchange between two people in icelandic and very quickly i was able to
00:19:03.000understand what people were saying even if you know i was getting stuck on something or whatever
00:19:07.720i was able to get real close and like oh wow i know what they said i felt silly but i was just
00:19:13.480so excited that you know i was able to make the connection so yeah right out the gate
00:19:19.800i would encourage encourage that so there you go um and with that uh
00:19:26.920it's fine. Let's take them to chapter 47 and travel back in time to early medieval Iceland.
00:19:37.200Right. And here, you know, in the translation, we see a word, and I've mentioned it before,
00:19:43.320but I'll mention it again, in case anybody that's coming in and hasn't seen the other episodes.
00:19:50.400There is a lot of, you know, I guess, Middle English or just archaic in between Middle and our modern language that is used.
00:20:03.720And here is one of the perfect examples.
00:20:06.760Chapter 46 of Thorolf and Eil's harrying.
00:20:12.840Um, the, the, the word harrying has two meanings and it survives in our, well, in our religion, you might be familiar with it, with the einherjahr.
00:20:26.880The einherjahr are the ones who rise above or can also be translated as the one warrior, the warrior of the, of one.
00:20:38.420Um, and, uh, poetic language is like that. And it, it often has double meanings. So like
00:20:47.300Val could mean slain, but it can also mean chosen or to choose. So the Val father isn't
00:20:56.780necessarily just the father of the slain. He's also the, the choosing the father. Um,
00:21:02.980And this word harrying in English, it means to kind of aggressively attack at multiple angles or multiple points.
00:21:15.220And what this really is, is they're going to Viking.
00:21:18.320They're going to go out and they're going to sail around and either raid or trade, depending on the situation.
00:21:25.740and oftentimes in older stuff you'll hear oh the vikings harried the coast it has nothing to do with
00:21:34.800with hair um so thorolf and eil stayed that winter with thorir and it's worth remembering
00:21:46.980to thorolf male our brothers um and they were made they were made much of but in spring they
00:21:56.260got ready a large warship and gathered men there too and in summer they went to the eastern way
00:22:03.940and harried their one they much wealth and had many battles so at this point they're
00:24:09.920blau tongue um is how you say bluetooth
00:24:16.200youth um that's always interesting to me because like eric the red he was also of the old faith
00:24:28.980our faith and his son laver or excuse me leif was um
00:24:35.580he became a christian and i like one of the things in that story of his saga
00:24:43.080he um basically convinced his mother to join the christian church and she wouldn't sleep
00:24:51.500with a uh heathen so um but i guess it must not have been that good because eric was like
00:25:01.680that doesn't affect me at all like i don't care like i'm not changing away from my gods
00:25:06.580whether you try to you know do this or not so that's i've always found that like super hilarious
00:25:15.220i know that we have many great heroes who have died for our faith but that was a that was a bold
00:25:20.880move as well i'm not i'm not going this route and and then she wanted him to build a chapel
00:25:29.180and he took an axe and threw it like over a berm and down a hill and he said wherever the axe lands
00:25:35.520that's where i'll build it because i love it but i'm not gonna walk out of my house and see that
00:25:40.480so bluetooth was converted around 960. um gorm the old is what the complex at yelling
00:25:53.920many of you may be familiar with the yelling stone um it's really famous rune stone in yelling denmark
00:26:00.400um he was interred there in a big burial mound later they dug him up and put him in the uh
00:26:12.640christian church that's also on the site at yelling and in and uh put him under the floor
00:26:19.440near the altar and it's funny that so um what was it 2013 when
00:26:32.480steve mcnallen and myself along with uh sheila and some friends of ours were there we went and
00:26:41.680we visited his uh we visited his remains his his tomb there and we went into the the church that
00:26:51.600was there we actually had a lady that we were with guard the door when we were in there by ourselves
00:26:58.720and we did a little ritual over the site where he was where he was um laid to rest inside this
00:27:07.120church there on this on the site and it's to mark the spot it's funny they have this like
00:27:12.000zigzaggy line pattern with metal on the floor of on like i think a concrete floor like stone floor
00:27:20.280rather of this church and over the top where he's interred within the metal pattern intentionally
00:27:29.540or unintentionally they mark a gold colored i assume it's i don't know brass um
00:27:39.220uh sig room there which is cool and so over top of that we did a little uh ritual there
00:27:46.580when we went and visited denmark on an afa trip um
00:27:52.020i was just reading an interesting little bit here too um that the sagas in general from iceland kind
00:28:01.620of paint herald bluetooth in a negative light and he was forced to submit twice to the swedish prince
00:28:11.060um steer the strong and he was one of the young viking good or the young vikings
00:28:17.940um twice and then he made an oath and he broke it to avoid facing him again
00:28:26.220um and then he ran and kind of started issues elsewhere and he's villainous because he betrayed
00:28:36.040our gods there is that is yes well so something something to think about and i know that um
00:28:42.640new folks to also true often wonder like man what do i do with all my ancestors that were
00:28:52.260christians and you know most of us have many many many many generations of christian ancestors
00:28:58.440that's all fine and good most of those people didn't know better and didn't have a lot of
00:29:04.540option but we're dealing right now with a generation of people that did know better
00:29:09.600They came into this world and into this life in troth to the Aesir.
00:29:17.500And many of them, in the course of this saga and this generation that we're reading about, chose to abandon that and betray that troth to the Aesir.
00:29:31.100And by doing so, they didn't just break that link for themselves, but they did that for all those generations.
00:29:38.660between us and them and you know i don't hold anything against my christian grandfather or
00:29:46.860great-grandfather that's the religion he was born into and the society was born into but i do hold
00:29:52.500great animosity towards people of this generation that chose to betray the gods in the first place
00:30:30.300So, I mean, I do think that Leivre could have gained something in the sense that he was trading and had trade routes with Christians and it was growing fast.
00:30:44.100So perhaps, you know, there was some benefit there.
00:33:06.860because you guys can't behave yourself and that's how the davidic um kingship came or i guess
00:33:14.540yes but that's how first the saul's kingship came about
00:33:20.060that was an anomaly and wasn't really a thing um
00:33:27.340in europe the reigning monarchs we had divine right of kings
00:33:31.580now you're hearing about a really specific cultural expression there were a lot of these
00:33:40.820little petty kings that would call themselves king but maybe they were king of a valley or a bay or
00:33:46.260you know a couple hundred people but they weren't big kings ruling kingdoms until just about this
00:33:53.320generation a little bit previous you started having these kings that took over big swathes
00:33:58.180of the country, just like Harold Fairhair here earlier. So the concept of divine kingship was
00:34:11.100absolutely an also true concept. The royal families of Europe, even into the Christian
00:34:16.520age, trace their legitimacy back to them being descended from our gods. Most often the Allfather
00:34:25.840Odin, but like in Sweden, Lord Freyr would be their, that they would trace back their royal
00:34:32.460lineage to. The sacrality of kingship was, vastly predates Christianity. That's why it was so easy
00:34:43.180to overlay the Christian divine right of kings concept on it. Yes, when the continent was turning
00:34:50.760and they'd forgotten all about that, they don't care about that, they just care that, you know,
00:34:54.700jehovah had anointed them king yes oh your pagan king doesn't have the blessing of our jewish god
00:35:02.060therefore your illegitimate will rally the people against you or will rally other christian nations
00:35:08.700against you yes but the divinity of kingship was long celebrated in our ancestral times long before
00:35:19.100Christianity came to Europe. Do you have anything to add on that Svan? Yeah, I think that, you know,
00:35:29.760when we talk about the divine kingship, it's just that when we go from a culture that does
00:35:37.940oral poetic traditions to carry things on versus when we write things down. And I'm a huge believer
00:35:45.840that our ancestors should have gotten on the writing things down, um, train, but yeah, I,
00:35:52.880you know, when you talk about the Kings of Sweden, um, and Denmark and, um, uh, even,
00:36:02.180even in the central German areas or back towards like the bronze age, you know, there's evidence
00:36:09.860that would lend to the idea that the the the kings um were anointed or placed in there by the
00:36:19.860machinations of the gods by by fate or by by orlog or weird um and i think that lends you know heavily
00:36:30.900towards that but you see king style changes where the say during the time of tacitus
00:36:40.560he noted that even though the king was right there the the men folk could come in with their
00:36:47.720weapons which was foreign comparatively to the romans um so there is this essence of the way
00:36:55.420that kings functioned and they functioned more on merit and then what you see like even in this
00:37:03.540mentioning with herald nobody's allowed to bring a weapon in front of him so a or sorry thoralf
00:37:10.900um or i even ale there they have to disarm so the functioning of kings um i think greatly changed
00:37:22.740with the coming of christianity and again there was also the ever-present counseling of the church
00:37:31.060that was not there you were counseled by you know your things and experienced warriors or family
00:37:37.940members and then it shifted over to like a tendril of rome so the function i think changed but the
00:37:45.380idea of a sacral king um was was much much older it just had an allure because of money and i think
00:37:56.660too also a removal of certain responsibilities um kings of old if they failed they often met
00:38:04.820even spiritually they felt they would meet doomed ends and we see that in the sagas um
00:38:11.940But the allure of the kingship via, you know, being anointed by the church is that it would somehow kind of avert that and, you know, not have to worry about perhaps an underling coming, you know, and taking it from you.
00:38:31.800But instead, you know, your child could pick it up.
00:38:35.340So I think the function changed, but, um, sacral kinship and kingship amongst our folk certainly was there.
00:39:58.140So really what this is saying is with the transfer of one king to another, there's this moment where Harold Bluetooth or Harold Gormson is trying to, I'm going to use the word, Matt.
00:40:16.240He was trying to galvanize Denmark, and this was a ripe opportunity for the Norwegians.
00:40:26.560Upon what premise was he trying to galvanize?
00:45:57.760they they go forward after that they made their way ready to go up and they came to the town
00:46:02.880but when the townsmen were aware of the enemies coming they made against them a wooden wall
00:46:08.880was round the town, so they had a palisade. They set men to guard this. A very, very fierce battle
00:46:18.020was fought. Eil, with his following, charged fiercely on the gate, nor spared himself. So
00:46:25.200all in. There was great slaughter, the townsmen falling one upon another. It is said that Eil
00:46:35.680first entered the town the others followed then those of the town fled and great was the slaughter
00:46:45.940but thorolf and his company plundered the town and took much wealth and fired the buildings
00:46:52.080before they left then they went down to their ships so at this point
00:46:58.600uh the the full um like stereotypical viking stuff is going on there they are looting and
00:47:11.800and and taking these towns and i think too it's worth noting that perhaps the loss of kings when
00:47:18.340small fiefdom kings were taken out by a larger king um there was a loss of protection at least
00:47:26.680a window of it um before like armies could be raised and so i think that's really what
00:47:33.160they're capitalizing on in these moments um they also you know they they're attacking these places
00:47:43.400with the intention of bringing loot back and we have to be careful about attempting to
00:47:50.360i guess moralize our ancestors i see people say like oh well you know your ancestors owned slaves
00:48:02.200and those slaves were white people and it's like you're you're twisting and turning things to fit
00:48:09.240a narrative versus the reality is that's who they knew that's what they knew and the differences
00:48:16.360between them and the you know having battle gods uh to pray to when you're surrounded by folk
00:48:25.240because our folk our ancestors didn't live in peace a lot of people try to you know always
00:48:31.000say or portray that like the native americans they all loved each other and they sat around and
00:48:35.800smoked on the pipe and made buffalo hair macrame and it's false and we should not
00:48:46.200we should not do the same thing our ancestors fought each other all the time and very different
00:48:52.680everybody likes to get behind these slogans and stuff without really putting thought to them
00:49:00.280everything has to do with context and that's why i
00:49:09.080counsel to lean on principle much more than on politics because politics are situational
00:49:15.320we talk all the time about no more brother wars but everything that was ever celebrated
00:49:20.840by any of our ancestors is almost exclusively brother wars because that's how small the world
00:49:27.320was you know that's that's what they knew and where they were you'll find in these sagas almost
00:49:35.560all of them are in some way related to the people that they're interacting with they knew them if
00:49:41.320they had truces if they had good relationships they treated them well if they were in the outer
00:49:46.600yard then they were treated like they were in the outer yard and you're looking out for yours and
00:49:50.680those who've been loyal to you and it was a very different very different arrangement the world was
00:49:58.120so much smaller as i mentioned earlier you know almost all though of the things that we read and
00:50:03.720are celebrated certainly from you know pretty much anything in the uh pre-christian period was
00:50:15.960almost exclusively brother wars because that's how the world was different times different politics
00:50:23.480different things different geopolitical situation you do different things but i've always counseled
00:50:31.320against trying to project your modern sensibilities on you know our ancestors in a different time in
00:50:38.600in a different place. Um, you have to judge people by the standards of their time and
00:50:45.480their world and their, their knowledge base, not retroactively, you know, like, uh, degenerates
00:50:54.540these days do. Do you want to pull down all the statues of people that you have no sense
00:50:58.740to understand don't do that i did want to um answer a question that's kind of relevant to
00:51:08.820what we're just talking about because i didn't want to answer it like an hour from now finwraith
00:51:13.620asked did you ever have a moment in the army when you thought that you were about to die
00:51:18.900i was going to say one i um and are you offended no no he's in finland i might not know um because
00:51:27.140swan is not projecting his understanding upon people with a different context yeah he's from
00:51:34.420yeah he might not know uh i was in the marine corps which is the uh kind of combat element
00:51:41.860connected to the navy um and it's a very long tradition just kind of very similar and they
00:51:47.460were born out of the british royal marines um and the united states you know they had a lot of ex
00:51:55.940british royal marines that ended up becoming united states marines during the revolutionary
00:52:00.580war but um i was gonna say every time i ran down a street and every time i got into a helicopter
00:52:09.860yes you just reserved yourself for death i'm being dead serious too i'm not
00:52:16.740not a morose joke. Helicopters are pretty scary. But yeah, and also to running down
00:52:26.620streets where we didn't have any protection or any follow-up. It was just perhaps me and maybe
00:52:32.540two or three other people, and we were just kind of out in the open. I just figured at any minute
00:52:38.460there was going to be either an explosion or an ambush, and it was just pretty constant.
00:52:46.740every time so we're putting it out there um for the audience
00:52:57.060something to make note of and anyone who has been in that situation by all means you are entitled
00:53:06.260to feel however you want about it i have no place to tell you what to think about it
00:53:12.660But I think it speaks really highly of my friend Svan here, the way he carries himself and the way he presents himself on things.
00:53:29.920I don't think a lot of people realize the life he's led, the things that he's seen, the life lessons that he brings to the program.
00:53:45.360He is so very humble and respectful with how he presents himself.
00:53:51.560this man's seen some things and he has
00:53:58.280embodied far more of the warrior virtue than so many of our people like to chest thump about
00:54:06.640it's really beneficial to all of us to think as the kids say these days to sit under his
00:54:16.300learning tree about some of these things because he's been there and he knows the things that he's
00:54:22.620speaking of and he is still able to present himself in the way that he is the folks that
00:54:31.680are the adorners of benches should uh give heed and respect to the stuff that he has to say
00:54:39.280because he's earned that uh in spades thank you hail to you my friend
00:54:47.120yeah let's see i feel like i'm at a stumble now like how do i follow
00:54:53.680got nothing to follow it with this is a celebration of you
00:54:57.440well you said humbleness too humbleness is not oh it's not like a particularly strong virtue in our
00:55:02.720in our faith. And, um, I, you bring me bright fame, especially on here, you know, to be
00:55:10.440remembered and spoken about is good, but yeah, I don't really talk about it often. And I think
00:55:17.440a lot of people think because I'm my demeanor, I'm, I don't, I don't know what they think of
00:55:22.560me, but I don't think they think of like some of the stuff I've done. Um, if they tested,
00:55:31.460it may be the last thing they think about i mean yeah i mean
00:55:37.220um i was gonna say too finraith said you know they in finland they say everyone they say the
00:55:42.260army for everyone here in um america finraith there is a like a big difference between army
00:55:50.180and navy and then the subsidiaries that follow like the air force out of the army and the marine
00:55:57.620corps out of the navy so there's a lot of kind of group rivalry it's all done with competitive drive
00:56:04.740but um yeah there's definitely like a big calling a marine a soldier is like no i'm not in the army
00:56:15.140like no no no so um okay so they attack the town and they make their way back
00:56:27.620And again, much slaughter, and Thorolf and Eil make their way out of it. More likely, too, they have far more experience with a sword. Even though they have the defensive position, Eil drives the attack to the door and makes it through, and it's just really emphasizing that they are seasoned warriors.
00:56:52.640Um, so chapter 48 of the banquet at Earl Arnfydd's house, um, which is interesting too, because
00:57:08.720they use a different name, Arnhirni is in the old Norse, but Arn means eagle, um, not 100%
00:57:19.960on the on the feed part um so thorolf stood northwards with his force past holland and they
00:57:30.680put in a harbor there as the wind drove them back they did not plunder there a little way up the
00:57:37.860country dwelt an earl named arnfid but when he heard the freebooters had come to the land there
00:57:46.420he sent his men to meet them with this errand, to know whether they wished for peace or for war.
00:57:54.760Upon the messengers coming to Thorolf with their errand, he said that they would not
00:58:00.640harry here, that there was no need to harry there or to come with war shield, the land being not so
00:58:10.480wealthy. The messenger went back to the Earl and told him the issue of their errand. But when the
00:58:17.620Earl knew that he need not gather men for the cause, then he rode down without any armed force
00:58:25.600to meet the freebooters. When they met, all went well at the conference. The Earl, see,
00:58:33.840and that's like the moment where in our kind of modern sensibility of like plot uh-oh he's gonna
00:58:41.680but no it's it just reads very matter-of-factly the earl bade thorolf to a banquet with him
00:58:49.440and as many of his men as he could and thorolf promised to go on the appointed day the earl
00:58:56.400had riding horses sent down to meet them thorolf and ale went they had 30 men with them and when
00:59:03.920they came to the earl he received them well they were led to the dining hall at once beer was
00:59:10.720brought and given them to drink they sate there there till evening but before the tables were
00:59:18.320removed, the earl said that they should cast lots to drink together in pairs. Now, that's interesting,
00:59:29.040um, the usage of lots and the idea that perhaps they are using runes, but it's not specifically
00:59:37.280said um the uh the usage of the rune like or the the word rune um is not done there uh see here
00:59:52.960i just wanted to see if uh yeah it's not the the usage of the word rune is not there
01:00:00.800So whether they use runes or not, we don't quite know. It could, and I'm just shooting this out
01:00:08.300there. I'm not saying that it's the case, but the lots themselves could have been some form of dice
01:00:12.820or something of that nature. But I have a tendency to believe that it is runes because of the usage
01:00:19.940of the word lots versus dice or anything else. But they cast them to find pairings, and then
01:00:32.380those people will drink together. Man and woman, so far as numbers would allow, but the odd ones
01:00:38.800by themselves. They cast then their lots into the skirt of a cloak, and the earl drew them out.
01:00:48.660the earl had a very beautiful daughter then in the flower of youth the lot
01:00:55.620decreed that ale should sit by her for the evening here we go um
01:01:03.540ale stood up and went to the place in which the earl's daughter had sat during the day
01:01:08.580but when all took their several seats then the earl's daughter went to her place and she
01:07:43.380hath sounded in the swift viking's charge raged wrathful our battle ran fire over foemen's roof
01:07:54.660trees sound sleepeth many a warrior slain in the city gate so just uh if anybody's reading along
01:08:06.160to just to to note the the uh these these poems don't rhyme at the end and they have alliterative
01:08:13.180So you can kind of see when you read them, but what's really important is to catch the ear.
01:08:23.560And you don't get that in the English translation, but like a perfect example for her.
01:08:31.900Why sittest in my seat, youth? Thou seldom sure hast given.
01:08:36.600So here, sitist, seat, and seldom are the key words that are kind of, they transfer over, but she says, kvatskaltur svein, svein meaning young lad, i sesmin, thvittu sjaltin hefer kevnar.
01:08:56.500so the alliterative sense of what is rhyming is important um and you have to you have to learn
01:09:08.280to have an ear for it it's like playing an instrument um and it gets you know it's it's
01:09:14.100a little bumpy and a lot of folks kind of notice the disjointedness of the poem but very rarely
01:09:20.260catch on to what is exactly being set how can it be memorized it's memorized through alliteration
01:09:30.340um they too then drink together for the evening and were right merry the banquet was the of the
01:09:39.860best on that day and on the morrow then the rovers went to their ships they and the earl
01:09:47.860parting in friendship with an exchange of gifts thorolf with his force then stood for
01:09:55.380the bren islands at that time there was a great layer of freebooters because through the islands
01:10:04.260sailed many merchant ships aki went home to his farms and his sons with him he was a very wealthy
01:10:12.580man owning several farms in jutland jutland of course is denmark he and thoralf parted
01:10:23.860with affection and pledged them close friendship but as autumn came on thoralf and his men sailed
01:10:31.060northward along norway's coast till they reached the firths which is the word that they used to
01:10:37.460translate fjord um then went to lord thorit he received them well but arenbjorn his son
01:10:48.420much better who asked ale to be there for the winter ale took this offer up with thanks
01:10:57.140but when thorir knew of arenbjorn's offer he called it rather a hasty speech
01:11:02.420I know not, said he, how King Errik may like that, for after the slaying of Bard, he said that he would not have Eil be here in the land.
01:11:17.220You, father, can easily manage this with the king, said Arnbjorn, so that we will not have any blame in Eil's Eil stay.
01:11:27.760You'll ask Thorolf, your niece's husband, to be here, and I and Eil will have one winter home.
01:11:39.720Thorir saw from the talk that Arnbjorn would have his way in this, so father and son
01:11:47.000offered Thorolf winter home there, which he much accepted.
01:11:52.880They were there through the winter with twelve men.
01:11:57.760Two brothers there were named Thorvald the Proud and Thorvid the Strong,
01:12:05.880near kinsmen of Bjorn Yeoman, and brought up with him.
01:12:11.300Tall men they were, strong, of much energy and forward daring.
01:12:16.440They followed Bjorn so long as he went out a-roving,
01:12:21.020but when he settled down in quiet, then these brothers went to Thoralf
01:12:26.120and were there with him in his harrying, they were foc'sle men in the ship.
01:12:34.000And when Eil took command of the ship, then Thorvir was his foc'sle man.
01:12:41.140These brothers followed Thorolf throughout, and he valued them most of his crew.
01:12:47.800They were of his company this winter and sate next to the two brothers.
01:12:52.000So it's worth noting here, they're explaining some of the seating and the idea of the high seat
01:13:15.940generally is the seat in the center of the table, and then the person to your right or
01:13:21.820to your left or across from each other was your your cup mate or you know your um second
01:13:29.900you know depending on kind of the layout of the hall um and we do this too here in um
01:13:37.340in the asa true folk assembly in a general sense that the alzharagoli sits in the high
01:13:42.540seat and then the person to the left of them is like the second and um the horn goes around sun
01:13:51.180wise through the hall and usually the the the thuller the one who kind of
01:13:57.740administrates or make sure he or she is generally last so um to kind of make sure that all the
01:14:06.460witnessing is done so you'll see that uh if you come to like national events is it always that
01:14:12.540that way? No, but it's a general guideline. Um, so let's see. So they spend the winter and there's
01:14:23.580much drinking and rejoicing and good feast. Um, so then Lord Thorir went in the autumn to King
01:14:32.260Eric. So this is the next year. The King received him exceedingly well, but when they began to talk
01:14:39.540together, Thorir begged the king not to take it amiss, but he had Eil with him that past winter.
01:14:48.580The king answered this well. He said that Thorir might get from him what he would, but it should
01:14:56.100not have been so had any other man harbored Eil. But when Gunnhilde, Erik's wife, heard
01:15:06.260what they were talking of then said she this i think eric that is now going again as it has gone
01:15:16.920often before thou lendest easy ear to talk nor bearest long in mind that the ill that is done
01:15:24.940to thee and now thou will bring forward the sons of skalagrim to this and that they will yet again
01:15:32.460smite down some of thy nearest kin but thou though mayest choose to think bard slaying was
01:15:41.040of no account I think not so so in a way she's saying like this is gonna this is what happens
01:15:49.680you start to ease up you let them around they kill one of your family members and then you regret it
01:15:56.340And, you know, I, I would like to think that you don't think that bard slaying is just happenstance is basically what she's saying. She's really goading him. And, and Gunhilda is, you know, she was often referred to as being a master of dark arts, or at least, you know, the arts that were kind of questionable at the time.
01:16:23.640uh she went to finland and a lot of folks always associated um certain types of magical practices
01:16:32.700with the fins and they were not known very well so it was immediately brought about with an air
01:16:39.240of mystery which could have just simply been a political tactic but she's certainly a uh a woman
01:16:48.420of of great um drive and cunning so so this speaks to a thing in also true that i think folks need to
01:17:00.260internalize as well women have a very powerful function in society and that function is not to
01:17:12.660pretend that they're dudes or to go out and go a viking with the men that function
01:27:20.260First they drank as one drinking party, but presently it came to this that each should drink half a horn.
01:27:27.860Avend and Thorvald being paired together to drink, and Alf and Thorvid.
01:27:33.080So again, we see this pairing of sharing of a horn with just one other person, perhaps so that the logistics of it not being passed across the room, you could have one horn between two people.
01:27:47.340um now as the evening wore on there was unfair drinking next followed a bandying of words and
01:27:57.800then insulting language so in essence one of them was drinking you know their their share
01:28:05.980too much or uh perhaps you know holding out for you know like you get the bottom half of the horn
01:28:14.140with all the the spit and swill and i'll get the you know the good top half so it starts off this
01:28:21.340and then now they're you know joking with each other and then it turns straight into insults
01:28:26.460then ivan jumped up drew his sword and thrust at thorvald dealing him a wound that was his death
01:28:35.260whereupon up jumped on either side the king's men and thorir's house carls but men were all
01:28:42.620weaponless in there because it was a sanctuary so this is interesting just in general because
01:28:51.980ivan is armed and they are in the hof they are in the temple and it was of common practice at
01:29:00.960that time that you did not wear a weapon inside the hof um is that practice now no i don't think
01:29:10.060it should be it was more or a social context of the time you'll see people say like i don't think
01:29:17.100we should wear weapons in the hof um because they're trying to again replicate um so a condition
01:29:27.380that our ancestors had but conditions do change and it wasn't always the case all right so before
01:29:33.860we continue but why every time you want to do some larpy thing ask yourself why
01:29:45.380is the reason that our ancestors did it still valid today
01:29:52.420or is the reason you want to do it simply to pay homage to a tradition of our ancestors
01:30:00.100That's not wrong, but you need to go into it with the full knowledge of why you're doing something, especially in a holy place, especially during ritual.
01:39:48.380so he was therefore made accursed and had to go abroad at once the king offered a fine for the
01:40:03.000man but thorolf and thorvid had said they they never had taken man fine and would not take this
01:40:13.020So at this point, manfine is a bounty. And the idea is when you ostracize someone out and make them an outlaw, people can kill you with no fear of being punished and could possibly make some money off of it.
01:40:32.020but so we'll also talk about uh um where guild for a second
01:40:40.020so we're in a time and a place at this point and this is fundamental to our sense of justice
01:40:47.760keep in mind always that also true is not a anti-christianity it's its own thing you can
01:41:00.760forgive people if you want. You can, you know, you are a sovereign being that has the right to make
01:41:09.260decisions. But fundamentally, when someone wrongs you, they take something from you.
01:41:18.200The idea of vengeance and the vengeance we see in these sagas is rebalancing of that scale.
01:41:25.820if someone has wronged you and taken the life of someone close to you of a member of your family
01:41:34.460that person has a value and it's hard to equate that in a I don't know in a tangible way but we
01:41:45.880also live in a time where our ancestors are not that far removed from dire straits from starvation
01:41:53.260if they can't get their stuff figured out from some realities.
01:41:59.860So who can place value on a human life?
01:42:04.080People that are real close to the poverty line can.
01:42:09.040What does this guy bring to the table and what are we missing because he's not there?
01:42:15.080We talk, we give lip service today about paying your debt to society,
01:42:19.600but you sitting around and rotting in a jail cell does not give anything to society.
01:42:55.440when i said earlier that we're not a contrast to christianity a lot of people want to say oh
01:43:03.300christians just forgive everybody we don't forgive anyone no you can absolutely forgive people
01:43:09.080but the idea in christianity is when you sin you do something bad to god and you need to make it
01:43:17.600right with god and not the person whose stuff you stole or whose house you burned down or who's
01:43:23.760who've you maimed or whose family member you've killed no you need to make it right with the
01:43:30.520person who has been wounded and made less by your actions and it can't always be perfect and it
01:43:38.580can't always be one for one, but you can make that effort to find some equivalency. And that's
01:43:43.560what we see here. We're like, hey, I know this transgression really hurt you and your family.
01:43:49.380As the king, I will pay for it. I will give you a sum of money to compensate you for the loss
01:43:56.120here of this member of your family. That step
01:44:00.640saves a lot of life because the vengeance cycle doesn't stop.
01:44:08.460It's just somebody runs out of the ability to enforce it at some point.
01:44:14.360So just know that for, I don't know, context or familiarity going into this,
01:44:19.520but also know it in the concept of modern ausitru.
01:44:23.240When you mess something up, fix it or do the best you can to fix it.
01:44:29.740and then after you've tried to fix it, then ask for forgiveness, and that's the key. It's not
01:44:39.400that you can't forgive people, and honestly, if it's something minor, it's not that you can't
01:44:44.640choose to be above it and let it slide. You can't, but that's not your obligation to Jehovah.
01:44:51.620That is your position as a noble-minded person to be willing to take one on the chin,
01:44:58.160And, you know, if a kid does something to you or if somebody does something and they really regret it and they're genuinely sorry, you can give them a pass if you like.
01:45:08.400And that's a noble thing to do, but you're not obliged to do that.
01:45:11.700um and it's also worth remembering too ivan is the brother of of gunelda so
01:45:30.820this this machination was working out in some way shape or form and she you know said kill
01:45:38.660one of his men and they cook this up so he's going to be taken care of i did like to in the
01:45:44.820the verse in old norse it says i've been to have the uh vayet evayam so he killed someone in the
01:45:52.180in the vay in the sanctity room um so he has been declared a varg uh which has two meanings
01:46:07.380uh criminal or a wolf so um so keep that in mind there's two kind of versions
01:46:15.220of wolf in old norse though there's ulther which is a wolf and there's varger which is like a
01:46:26.260criminal shady kills your lifestyle a bad wolf right
01:46:30.340look at that beautiful offer um or like uh what uh south uh father author but or then there's like
01:46:48.900uh look at that barger let's string him up let's there's a lot of hanging wolves in
02:03:19.100bureaucratic um thing so like okay if this guy um in the pajamas wants to sprinkle me with water
02:03:30.260and say a bunch of stuff in latin so that i could make business with you know the rest of the
02:03:37.700english okay cool let's do it so a lot of them didn't take to the idea that it was just uh
02:03:45.500you know betraying the gods and i think that's something that was a problem just like i said we
02:03:53.540i think we should have picked up writing i think our ancestors should have also been a little bit
02:03:57.240more forthwith or forthright that's one of the things that's part of the i don't know march of
02:04:09.500Christianity through the West and through any indigenous culture it interacts with, the idea of
02:04:18.980universalism or of your God's good and no other gods get to exist except for your God
02:04:29.240is such a foreign and odd and just strange idiosyncrasy that it doesn't occur to most
02:04:38.680our ancestors are like oh okay if we're in your ports and in your land if we need to
02:04:44.440give some kind of you know nod of the head to to your gods i mean that makes sense that's fine but
02:04:52.840it wasn't there wasn't the understanding inherently of like it's either our gods or
02:05:02.760your gods because if you went to interact with you know any other indigenous people
02:05:12.120cool your gods are fine for you my gods are good for me um cool if we go to you know the land of
02:05:18.760your gods we can be respectful and and pay some kind of respect to your gods we're in their land
02:05:24.120that only makes sense you know it's like there was a certain syncretism in in rome but there
02:05:30.760there was also a thing in the Mediterranean, you know, like you went to Egypt, you would pay a
02:05:35.700certain amount of obeisance to the Egyptian deities because you're in their land. And that's
02:05:40.080only respectful. It didn't negate your, you know, your Roman deities. It's a strange new thing that
02:05:49.620our ancestors are facing to where like this desert God says that he only gets to exist. And in order
02:05:57.480to be good you have to turn your back on your gods and embrace him that's a that's an odd concept
02:06:04.880that people are still kind of wrapping their heads around and you see some of the syncretism you see
02:06:11.160the things in iceland where you have the crucifix and the thor's hammer in the same um stone mold
02:06:19.520You have early on in England, I think, what was it, Redwald, who had, I don't want to put that on him if that's not the case.
02:06:33.820But you have some of the kings that will have like, in their hoth, they'll have altars to their gods and then also an altar to Christ because they didn't really understand that the two were mutually exclusive.
02:06:45.620So there's a certain amount of that at play too.
02:06:48.540Oh, and a random side thing over in the side, Morris Taylor, I assume jokingly, is saying Applestand, the faithful. Anybody who's curious of the linguistics, Applestand means noble stone.
02:07:02.760you know because athol and othol or othala the rune are of the same
02:07:11.320uh yeah meaning uh noble by of the land um
02:07:20.640also uh i think that you know when we talk about christianity's origins
02:07:29.180they too in i'm talking in the middle east you know the the what is it the second commandment
02:07:36.960is thou shall not put any other gods before me um but that over time by the time that christianity
02:07:43.960kind of morphed into the greco-roman world um it became that you can't pray to any other gods and
02:07:54.460those gods became demonized which is a greek you know word they um and they became lessered and
02:08:03.360then they became evil and that was a that was a a mode i i don't think that i mean i do believe
02:08:08.920that like the the israelites the jews did this as well with their neighbors but it's just
02:08:15.680interesting to me that it's um it doesn't say you know thou shalt not put you know the gods who are
02:08:22.760actually demons before me it says no other gods and i i really um let's go on that because i see
02:08:31.280that in the questioning morris also says doesn't the christian god just say to put no other gods
02:08:36.420over him he doesn't say they don't exist most christians think they're not supposed to believe
02:08:41.640in more than one god so that's not really fair because it's not like oh there are other gods too
02:08:51.080i just have to be your favorite god no you can't interact with these other gods too not only
02:08:57.960so if you read the text fairly it acknowledges other gods exist but they are all bad
02:09:07.800and they are all the enemy and you cannot have other gods and jehovah of the israelites so
02:09:17.400So there's no, I mean, as a, if you want to, as a speculative thing on the most ancient
02:09:27.640formulaic practices of Judaism, perhaps, because at the time where Judaism erupted,
02:09:35.720there were many gods that were worshiped in the Middle East, in Israel, and this happened
02:09:43.140to be one of them that gained that gained prominence but it's not like yeah these other
02:09:51.060gods are fine you just need to acknowledge that i'm the super supreme super duper god
02:10:00.480we're going to kill you and that's that's very much the christian position and always has been
02:10:09.680And you could form an alternate Middle Eastern theology that, I guess, accepts polytheism, but with, you know, Jehovah at the top.
02:10:21.060But that's all kind of retconning things that that isn't the case since the very earliest of times.
02:10:26.820The idea is you are exclusive in the worship of any other gods that are not Jehovah is punishable by death immediately.
02:10:35.040And that's carried through and been the practice in Christianity since the very dawn of Christianity. It continues to be, well, up until the modern age of degeneracy, that was the standard in Christianity.
02:10:53.180and now it's like do whatever you want
02:13:14.260I'm sorry. Oh, I was going to say over time that that was the trajectory that eventually by the time of Charlemagne and all of that, that the Roman Catholic Church was like, no, it's not even just you can't coexist.
02:13:28.700Those the divine gods of other people are evil. And that's why Charlemagne cut off everyone's heads.
02:13:35.020that's something to realize and um maurice you're not wrong in that i do think and that's a point
02:13:42.220that has been used by al-satruar for a long time to kind of open the eyes you're right
02:13:50.620in the passage thou shall have no other god before me yes it is the ancient hebrews acknowledging
02:13:58.060that other gods exist that is a powerful point to awaken that thought in our folk like okay well if
02:14:08.360these other gods exist and they're gods then maybe we should think about that so i don't you're not
02:14:14.300wrong in that but i think that to retroactively rewrite the religion of judaism and then of
02:14:21.220Christianity is different. Judaism was extremely folkish and much of it still is today. It was
02:14:29.980very much like, don't intermix with these devil worshipers. Yeah, they got gods, but their gods
02:14:36.280are bad. And our God will wipe them from existence. Just because you acknowledge something exists
02:14:51.760And their separation from that, and it evolved in Christianity to then say, yes, these other gods exist, but they're just like the secret identity of devils and demons.
02:15:06.240Cool, they exist, but they're firmly on the bad guys team.
02:15:10.400And you want to separate yourself out from that as much as possible.
02:15:16.220And I'm cool with fully separating myself out.
02:15:23.420That's, but no, that your, your point is a really interesting one.
02:15:27.080And I don't think a lot of Christians read their Bible that way to realize, no, the other gods exist.
02:15:34.680They're just, you know, quote unquote bad or on the other team or false or, you know, they're the bad guys in that narrative.
02:15:44.540and i do think that opens minds to people who really think about that as a matter of fact i've
02:15:51.300known a number of people who have read it that way and that's changed the way that they're
02:15:54.860thinking so you're not on the wrong track there i just there is no point in time since christians
02:16:01.520referred to themselves as christians that they thought it was okay to acknowledge other gods
02:16:07.160alongside of christ just with him at like the forefront that's never been a thing that's never
02:16:12.060been okay i'm sure there's some mystic off in a cave that maybe said that he was most certainly
02:16:20.500put the nail screw or the thumbnail screws to and like had really bad things happening to him
02:16:26.760when the inquisition came through but you find you know strange cult leaders today that
02:16:32.580worship christ alongside a variety of other things so
02:18:44.220well and and having um ragnar connected to the king of scotland and you'll see that a lot during
02:18:59.060this time because of the danes and the way that they had taken over the eastern side of both
02:19:04.420scotland and england and northumbria and york in particular was like right in the middle of that
02:19:13.880So that's why that town becomes such a huge hub during this time.
02:19:23.780Scotland, as compared with England, was reckoned a third of the realm.
02:19:30.600Northumberland was reckoned a fifth part of England.
02:19:34.900It was the northernmost county marching with Scotland on the eastern side of the island.
02:19:41.480Formally, the Danish kings had held it.
02:19:43.880Its chief town was York. It was in Athelstan's dominions. He had set over it two earls. The one's name was Algeir, or Spear of the Elves, and the other was Gudrek, the Good Kingdom.
02:20:03.380uh when they when they were set there as defenders of the land against the inroads of the scots
02:20:12.320and the danes and the norsemen so even though the danes had controlled the eastern side they were
02:20:19.500still you know a problem especially if they were coming over and viking and then the norsemen too
02:20:25.340just the the north mani the the folks of norway and iceland so they had harried much land and
02:20:35.180though they had a strong claim on the land there because in northumberland nearly all
02:20:39.900the inhabitants were danish by father or by mother and many by both um brett land was governed by
02:20:51.260two brothers ring and athels they were tributaries under the king athelstan and with all had their
02:21:01.500had this right that when they were with the king in the field they and their forces should be in
02:21:09.100in the van of the battle before the royal standard so the van of the battle they should
02:32:51.400You know, if the gods wanted an 11, they're getting an 11.
02:32:54.320it would come up however you wanted or however the gods willed it and that was
02:33:01.840part of the trial by combat and we a lot of people have a confusion about the interplay between fate
02:33:12.160and free will and also true no free will is everything you have a determined course that
02:33:19.680you're set upon but you can veer from that and your actions play into that well your actions
02:33:27.440are what weave the strands of the tapestry of erther and that's how that works
02:33:35.680when you step into a sacred space and you're inviting the divine to back who they want to win
02:33:43.040then yeah fate becomes involved because you are beseeching the divine to sanction their champion
02:33:51.980and then it's kind of a mixture of who you got behind you and your own abilities and maybe
02:34:00.260you're you're at and here's the thing you this is another thing and it depends if you're
02:34:07.400what your background is or what your understanding of quote-unquote paganism is apologize for the
02:34:14.100little quotes if my arms are out to the side you can't see them so
02:34:18.000wiccans have this thing where you like
02:34:23.140somehow order the gods to do things that's sacrilegious and wrong but moreover it's also
02:34:32.560silly and ridiculous you can't make the gods do stuff you can beseech them to observe what you do
02:34:42.400and to back you if your cause is right and maybe they're like cool this guy's my guy screw those
02:34:49.900other guys go out there and cut him down or you can watch how it goes you can be like hey this
02:34:55.900guy is showing some heart I like this guy I'm going to get on his team maybe you have one of
02:35:02.380isir who's like hey i think this guy is my guy and the other one's like all right i think this
02:35:09.180other guy's my guy let's see there's any number of interplays but we see that kind of a dichotomy
02:35:18.620between odin and and frig in with the tale of the uh longobardi we also see that in homer's iliad
02:35:29.580you see the gods sometimes they're on different sides of it but when you set up the hazel rods
02:35:38.120and there's there is something special and transcendent that happens when you ritually
02:35:44.320make your action take place in a ritual context we can do mundane things all day long but when
02:35:52.260you invoke the other, be that the gods, the ancestors, the spirits of the place that you're
02:36:00.300in, to bear witness and participate, when you separate space out, then it becomes something
02:36:09.480elevated, not necessarily in the word, the usage that we normally mean, but it becomes something
02:36:19.120literally other it becomes outside of the mundane and that's what happens when you set up the hazel
02:36:25.820rods and that's also a thing like if you want a home gang with somebody or whatever it's a common
02:36:31.820kind of expression like cool we can set up the hazel rods and see you know see what's up
02:36:36.640i've heard a lot of people say that i don't think they necessarily know what they're invoking when
02:36:43.520they do that but that's the implication is cool we will test this on the field of battle and you
02:36:51.020know put your blood where your mouth is and it's so not to i don't mean to cheapen it or be silly
02:37:01.620but i think it was a really powerful and cool thing and i don't know if everybody watched
02:37:08.000uh troy with brad pitt back i don't know what 20 years ago now
02:37:13.180but one of the battles they called out champions they had achilles go out against
02:37:19.640i forget what nation he was championing with but he was played by this guy nathan jones who's just
02:37:25.480a beast and they're like cool instead of all of these men having to die let's settle this by two
02:37:33.880of our champions going one-on-one man against man and settle the conflict and achilles did his like
02:37:44.120super move jump in the air thingy but before that was one and this is forgive me this is what i do
02:37:52.600anybody watches this show knows that my mind tends to go where where it goes but one of the coolest
02:38:01.720things and coolest scenes from that movie that i think rings very true to also true is when the
02:38:07.320the messenger comes to get achilles to be the champion of the army comes in and he's like
02:38:13.320hey you know the king wants you to go be the champion and fight you know the champion of the
02:38:18.040the other force and he's like man he's really big i don't know i i'd never want to go fight that guy
02:38:25.960and achilles like and that's why no one will remember your name
02:38:31.720You know, you got to step up to be remembered and to earn fame for yourself, much like we talked about when A.L. was at the at the feast and drinking.
02:38:42.660So I don't know how we got there from here, but that's that's what happens on Victory Never Sleeps.
02:38:51.660well it's really it's kind of funny about this whole situation because it never really fully
02:38:59.020comes to fruition um as far as well i won't ruin it but it kind of is a thing
02:39:08.540not what everyone or like what it's intended to be well let's see
02:39:14.620yeah so north of the heath stood a town there in the town king olaf courted himself
02:39:23.920there he had the greatest part of his force because there was a wide district around which
02:39:29.420seemed to him convenient for bringing such provisions as his army needed but he sent
02:39:34.700men of his own up to the heath where the battlefield was appointed these were to take
02:39:41.440camping ground and make all ready before the army came. But when the men came to the place
02:39:49.160where the field was in hazel, there were all the hazel poles set up to mark the ground where the
02:39:57.060battle should be. So it was already set up. The place ought to be chosen level and whereon a large
02:40:05.720host might be set in array. And such was this, for in this place where the battle was to be,
02:40:13.980the heath was level, with a river flowing on one side, on the other a large wood, but where the
02:40:21.780distance between the wood and the river was least, though this was a good long stretch. There King
02:40:28.560Athelstan's men had pitched, and their tents were quite filled with the space between
02:40:35.700the root wood and the river so now this is the part where i was kind of like trying to understand
02:40:41.620i think because it's it reads that up here um
02:40:49.140that let me see uh that athelstan would feign and hazel him a field and offer battle on vin heath
02:40:57.300meanwhile he would have them forbear to harry his land but of the twain of the two of them
02:41:04.020uh one of them should rule england whoever was to conquer in battle so in this case too
02:41:12.820they're in hazeling the entirety of the um battlefield not just a one-on-one um in this
02:41:23.740case they've decided to make sacred the entirety of the war or at least perhaps to limit the number
02:41:30.820um but when they get there they are looking at the battlefield and it's already been set up um
02:41:39.860so let's see uh they had so pitched that in every third tent there was no man at all and in one
02:41:51.480of every three but few yet when king olaf's men came to them they had then numbers swarming
02:41:59.140before all the tents so Athelstan's men are meager and spread out and Olaf's men are just there's so
02:42:06.940many of them so full that their people had not nearly enough room to sleep in the tents but the
02:42:12.980front line of the tent stood so high that it could not be seen over whether they stood many or a few
02:42:20.080in depth Olaf's men imagined a vast host must be there or excuse me yeah that was the um
02:42:29.020uh the other way around so Athelstan his men look like there's a lot of them there and they
02:42:37.260place the tents strategically so that it just looks like Athelstan's army is ready to go
02:42:44.680but bear in mind that's not the case Athelstan is in the south drawing in his army um so when
02:42:53.440Olaf's men look over and see this they're like wow there's a lot of these guys and it's
02:42:58.900already set up the battles already they've already come here and plotted the place they're ahead of
02:43:05.020the game and that's sending messages so um Olaf's men imagined a vast host must be there King Olaf's
02:43:19.900men then pitched north of the hazel poles towards which side the ground sloped a little from day
02:43:27.340day Athelstan's men said that the king would come or was to come to the town that lay to the south
02:43:34.500of the heath. Meanwhile forces started to flock to them both day and night. When the appointed time
02:43:42.460came or the appointed time had expired then Athelstan's men sent envoys to king Olaf with
02:43:50.160these words. King Athelstan is ready for battle. He had a mighty host but he sends to the king
02:43:56.040Olaf these words he would ask that you should not cause such bloodshed as now looks likely and he
02:44:06.680begs Olaf rather go home back to Scotland and Athelstan will give him a friendly gift of one
02:44:15.660shilling of silver for every plow which is a person every free man in his army through all
02:44:25.780his realm and he wishes that they would they would become friends so he's basically saying
02:44:32.100like oh he's gathered this huge army he is ready to fight but you know you could you could go back
02:44:38.340and be and and they could make an amicable peace when the messengers uh came to king olaf he was
02:44:48.160just beginning to make ready his army purposing for the attack but on the messengers declaring
02:44:55.620their errand he forbode the advance of the day then he had his captain sit in council wherein
02:45:01.780opinions were divided some strongly desired that these terms be taken they said that this journey
02:45:08.420had already won them great honor if they should go home after receiving so much money from
02:45:13.940athelstan but some were against it and they said that athelstan would offer even more money
02:45:20.420if there was a second round of negotiation.
02:45:26.060And this was the course of counsel that prevailed.
02:59:33.760And I think that any man that reads this is just kind of awestruck that with axe and halberd and spear and sword,
03:00:00.140These guys are out there hacking and slashing in a state of exhaustion, surrounded by people trying to cut them down and just painting the canvas of the English countryside with the blood of their foes.
03:25:27.000Eil went to lodge at Bjorg, and with him, Thovid Strong and many others of their company, and there were with the Skalagrim for winter.
03:25:38.580Eil had advanced store of wealth, but it was not told that Eil shared that silver which King Athelstan had given him, either with Skalagrim or the others.
03:25:49.020That winter, Thorvid married Sion, Scalagrim's daughter, and in the following spring, Scalagrim gave them a homestead in Long River Foss and the land inwards from Lyra Brook between Long River and Swan River, even up to the fell.
03:26:11.120Daughter of Thorvid and Sion was Thordas' wife to Ungir in Holm, the son of Berse Godless.
03:26:21.280Their son was Bjorn, Haetadale's champion.
03:26:24.860So that kind of just gives, you know, a little bit of a kind of a geographical talking about everyone.
03:26:37.880I'm kind of, I was here because I'm kind of losing my voice.
03:30:25.200And when he ceased speaking, then Bergonand took the whole and spoke thus.
03:30:33.820Gunhilde, my wife, is the daughter of Bjorn and Alof, the wife whom Bjorn lawfully married.
03:30:43.000Gunhilde is rightful heiress of Bjorn.
03:30:46.140I, for this reason, took possession of all the property left by Bjorn, because I knew that the other daughter of Bjorn had no right to inherit.
03:30:56.200Her mother was a captive of war, afterwards taken as concubine, without her kinsman's consent, and carried from land to land.
03:31:06.220But thou, Eil, thinkest to go on here as everywhere else, with thy fierceness and wrongful dealing.
03:31:14.160This will not avail thee now, for King Erik and Queen Gunhilda have promised me that I shall have right in every cause within the bounds of their dominion.
03:31:26.280I will produce true evidence before the king and the judges that Thora Lacehand, Ausgurther's mother, was taken captive from the house of Thorir, her brother, and a second time from Brynjolf's house at Auerland.
03:31:45.460Then she went away out of the land with freebooters, and was outlawed from Norway.
03:31:52.680And in this outlawry, Bjorn and she had borne to them this girl, Ausgurther.
03:32:01.360A great wonder now is this in Eil, that he thinks to make void all the words of King Eric.
03:32:09.500First, Eol, thou art here in the land after Eol made thee an outlaw.
03:32:16.280Secondly, which is worse, though thou hast a bondswoman to thy wife, thou claimest for her right of heritage.
03:32:27.520I demand this to the judges, that they adjudge the inheritance of Gunhilda,
03:32:32.720but a Judge Ausgurður to be the bondswoman of the king
03:32:41.220because she was begotten when her father and mother were outlawed by the king.
03:32:47.120Right Roth was Aranbjörn when he heard Thora Lacehand call a bondwoman
03:32:53.560and he stood up and he would no longer hold his peace.
03:32:57.940He looked around on either side and took the word.
03:33:00.880Evidence we will bring, Sir King, in this matter, and oaths we will add that this was in the reconciliation of my father and Bjorn Yeoman expressly provided that Ausgurther, daughter of Bjorn and Thoreau, was to have right of inheriting after Bjorn her father.
03:33:23.700As also this, which thyself, O king, dost know, that thou restoredst Bjorn to his rights in Norway.
03:33:34.180And so everything was settled, which had before stood in the way of their reconciliation.
03:33:39.460To these words, the king found no ready answer.
03:35:34.180But men there were all weaponless, then spake Eil, can Bergenon hear my words?
03:35:45.540I hear, said Onond, then do I challenge thee to combat, and be our fight here at the thing.
03:35:54.480Let him of us, twain, have this property, both lands and chattels, who wins the victory.
03:36:01.980But be thou every man's dastard if thou darest not, whereupon King Eric made answer.
03:36:11.420If thou, Ael, art strongly set on fighting, then will we grant thee this forthwith.
03:36:19.560Ael replied, I will not fight with king's power and overwhelming force, but before equal numbers I will not flee.
03:36:28.280If this be given, nor will I make any distinction of persons, titled or untitled, then spake Aaron Bjorn.
03:36:39.900We go away, Ael. We shall not hear effect today anything that will be to our gain.
03:36:47.900And with this, Aaron Bjorn and all his people turned to depart.
03:36:51.360But Ael turned to him and cried aloud, This do I protest before thee, Aaron Bjorn, and thee, Thorn, and all men that now can hear my words, barons and lawmen, and all people, that I ban all those lands that belong to Bjorn, Brian Julfson, from building and tillage, and from all gain therefrom to be gotten.
03:37:20.000I ban them to thee, Bergenon, and to all others, natives and foreigners, high and low, and anyone who shall herein offend, I denounce as a lawbreaker, a peacebreaker, and a curse.
03:37:35.240After which, Hale went away with Aaron Bjorn.
03:37:39.980They then went to their ships, and there was a rise in the ground of some extent to pass over.
03:37:45.840So the ships were not visible from the thing field.
03:37:50.000Eyal was very wroth, and when they came to the ships, Aaron Bjorn spoke before his people and said,
03:37:58.060All men know what has been the issue of the thing here, that we have not got law, but the king is much in wrath,
03:38:06.660so that I expect our men will get a hard measure from him if he can bring it about.
03:38:11.820I will now that every man embark on his ship and go home. Let none wait for the other.
03:38:19.740Then Aaron Bjorn went on board his own ship, and to Ael he said,
03:38:24.800Now go you with your comrades on board the cutter that lies here outside the longship,
03:41:34.840That, O king, thou mayest at once see, here on board, on none but those who thou knowest, and Aeol will not be found down under the benches, though thou shouldest seek him there.
03:41:50.020The king asked Aaron what he knew latest of Aeol.
03:41:54.260He said that Aeol was on a cutter with thirty men, and they took their way out to Stone Sound.
03:42:01.140Then the king told his men to row by the inner sound and shape their course so as to meet Eil.
03:42:10.640There was a man named Kettle, Kettle Hod.
03:42:14.880He was of King Eric's guard, an uplander by family.
03:42:20.900He was pilot on the king's ship and steered the same.
03:42:25.540Kettle was a tall man, and handsome he was, near of kin to the king.
03:42:33.780And t'was generally said that he and the king were like an appearance.
03:42:39.080Now Eo, before going to the thing, had had his ship launched and the cargo put on board.
03:42:45.460And after parting with Aaron Bjorn, he and his went their way to Stone Sound,
03:42:50.760till they came to a ship, which lay there afloat in the haven with tent overspread.
03:42:57.480Then they went up aboard the ship, but the cutter rode beside the rudder of the ship
03:43:03.800between the land and the ship, and the oars lay there in the loops.
03:43:10.820Next morning, when day had hardly dawned, the watch were aware that some ships were rowing for them.
03:43:17.940But when Aeol saw that it was the enemy, he stood up and bade that they should leap into the cutter.
03:43:24.260He armed himself at once, as did they all.
03:43:28.480Aeol took up the chest of silver which King Athelstan gave them and bore them with him.
03:43:34.480They leapt armed into the cutter and rode forward between the land and the long ship that was advancing nearest to the land.
03:43:42.520But as it happened suddenly, and there was little light, the two ships ran past each other, and when the stern castles were opposite, then Aeol hurled a spear and smote in the middle the man who was steering Ketelhod to wit.
03:43:59.740And once he got his bane, then King Erech called out and bade his men row after Aeol and his party.
03:44:07.800But as their vessels ran past Aeol's merchant ship, the king's men leapt aboard of that.
03:44:14.120And those of Aeol's men, who had been left behind and not leapt into the cutter, were all slain who could be caught.
03:44:20.880But some escaped to land. Ten men of Aeol's followers were lost there.
03:44:26.240Some ships rowed after Aeol, but soon plundered the merchant ship.
03:44:34.700All the booty on board was taken, and the ship burnt.
03:44:38.860But those who rowed after Aeol pulled hard, two at each oar.
03:44:44.400They could even so take the rowing by turns, for they had no lack of men on board.
03:44:50.380while Aeol's crew was short, they being now but 18 on the cutter, so the distance between them
03:44:57.420lessened, but inside of the island was a shallow sound between it and other islands. It was now
03:45:04.740low water. Aeol and his rowers ran their cutter into the shallow sound. The longships could not
03:45:11.900float there, thus pursuers and pursued were parted. The king then turned back southward,
03:45:17.700But Aeol went north to seek Aranbjorn, then Aeol spake a verse.
03:45:26.620Wakener of weapon den, the warlike prince hath wrought,
03:45:31.660Where I escaped scot-free, scathe on our gallant ten.
03:45:37.800Yet sped by hand a spear, like springing salmon swift,
03:46:08.800Ausgurther, Eil's wife, had remained at Ehrenbjorn's while they went to the thing.
03:46:16.800Ehrenbjorn gave Eil a good seaworthy ship and had it laden with such things as Eil wished.
03:46:23.800This ship Eil got ready for sea, and again he had a crew of about thirty men.
03:46:30.800Then he and Ehrenbjorn parted in friendship.
03:46:33.800And Eos sang, requite him, righteous gods, for robbery of my wealth, hunt him away, be wroth, high Oden, heavenly powers, foe of his folk, base king, may Freyr and Yorther make flee, hate him, land guardians, hate who holy ground hath scorned.
03:47:03.800Apparently Svan is ill, yet lo, I shall continue.
03:47:21.740We have a goal this evening that we shall get to.
03:47:32.100You guys can bear with me in my reading. I will do my best here. If Spawn rejoins us, excellent. If not, we will catch up with him next week.
03:47:45.740Chapter 59, King Eric slays his brothers.
03:47:50.920Harold Fairhair set his sons to rule in Norway when he began to grow old.
03:47:55.840eric he made king above all his other sons it was when harold had been king for 70 years
03:48:03.960that he gave over the kingdom into the hands of his son eric at that time gunhilda bear a son
03:48:10.480whom harold the king sprinkled with water giving him his own name and he added this that he should
03:48:17.740be king after his father if he lived long enough king harold then settled down in retirement
03:48:23.760being mostly in Rogaland, or Horgaland.
03:48:28.600But three years later, King Harald died in Rogaland,
03:48:32.940and a mound was raised to his memory by Haugesound.
04:14:03.600The reason for this is that he made it law in the land that every man should owe his patrimony, where King Harald had enslaved all, rich and poor alike.
04:14:15.860Errik saw no other choice but to flee the land, and so he went abroad with Gunhilda, his wife, and their children.
04:14:23.600Lord Erendjorn was King Errik's foster brother, the foster father of his son.
04:14:28.700Dear to the king was he above all his barons, and the king had set him as ruler over the Firth folk.
04:14:39.140Aranbjorn was with the king when he left the land.
04:14:42.900They first went westward over the main to the Orkneys.
04:14:48.000There Eric gave his daughter Regnwilder in marriage to Earl Arnfinn.
04:14:53.480After that, he went south with his horse along the coast of Scotland,
04:14:57.620and he harried there, then still south to England and harried there.
04:15:03.580And when King Athelstan heard of this, he gathered a force and went against Eric.
04:15:08.760But when they met, terms were proposed, and the terms were that King Athelstan gave to Eric the government of Northumberland.
04:15:16.720And he was to be, for King Athelstan, defender of the land against the Scots and the Irish.
04:15:22.080Athelstan had made Scotland tributary under him after the death of King Olaf
04:15:28.020but that people were constantly disloyal to him
04:15:32.360the story goes that Gonhilda had a spell worked
04:15:35.860this spell being that Eil Skaladrimson should find no rest in Iceland
04:21:30.600Aaron Bjorn went before the king and saluted him.
04:21:33.860The king received him and asked what he would have.
04:21:39.840Aaron Bjorn said, I lead hither one who has come a long way to seek thee in thy place and to be reconciled with thee.
04:21:48.740Great is this honor to thee, my Lord, when thine enemies travel of their own free will from other lands and deem they cannot endure thy wrath, though thou be nowhere near.
04:22:25.400Then the king looked round and saw over men's heads
04:22:30.360where Ael stood, the king knew him at once, and darting a keen glance at him said,
04:22:37.520How wert thou so bold, Ael, that thou darest come before me? Thy last parting from me was such that
04:22:46.260of life thou couldst have from me no hope. Then went Ael up to table, and clasped the foot of the king,
04:22:57.540He then sang, with crosswinds far cruising, I came on my wave horse, Eric England's warder, eager soon to see, now wielder of wound flash, white dauntless and daring, the strong strand of herald, stout lineage I meet.
04:32:03.180He has not sought to run away in the night, nor would we fain know, my lord, what his lot is to be.
04:32:12.420I hope thou wilt let him get good from my words, for I think in a matter of great moment to me that Eo gained terms from me.
04:32:22.720I have so acted, as was right, that neither in word nor deed have I spared aught whereby thy honor should be made greater than before.
04:32:33.180I have also abandoned all my possessions, kinsmen and friends, that I had in Norway, and followed thee when all other barons deserted thee, and herein do I what is me, for thou hast often done great good to me.
04:33:19.400If thou, O king, and thou, Gunhilda, if ye too have resolved that Eol shall here get no terms, then is this the manly course, to give him respite and leave to go for a week, that he may look out for himself of his own free will with any way he can hitherto seek you, and therefore hoped for peace.
04:33:47.140Thereafter this done, let your dealings together end as they may.
04:33:54.180Gunhilda said, well, can I see by this, Aaron Bjorn, that thou art more faithful to Ael than to King Eric.
04:34:02.140If Ael is to ride hence for a week, then will he in this time become to King Athelstan.
04:34:08.980But King Eric cannot now hide this from himself, that every king is now stronger than he is.
04:34:17.820Whereas a little while ago, it had been deemed incredible that King Eric would not have the will and energy to avenge his wrongs on such a one as Aeol.
04:34:28.660Said Aaron Bjorn, no one will call Eric a great man for slaying a yeoman's son, a foreigner, who has freely come into his power.
04:34:37.940but if the king wishes to achieve greatness hereby then will i help him in this so that
04:34:46.140these tidings shall be thought more worthy of record for i and ale will now back each other
04:34:53.780so that we may both be met at once thou wilt then oh king dearly by the life of ale when we be all
04:35:03.220lay dead on the field i and my followers far other treatment should i have expected of thee
04:35:12.040than that thou wouldest prefer seeing me lay dead on the earth to granting me the boon i crave for
04:35:18.640one man's life then answered the king a wondrous eager champion art thou erin bjorn in this thy
04:35:27.980helping of Ael. Loth were I to do thee scathe, if it come to this, if thou wilt rather give away
04:35:37.600thine own life than that he be slain. But sufficient are the charges against Ael,
04:35:45.340whatever I cause to be done with it. When the king had said this, then Ael advanced before him
04:35:51.500and began the poem, and recited it in a loud voice, and at once won silence.
04:36:03.320Westward I sailed the wave, within me Oven gave, the sea of song I bear, so tis my want to fare.
04:48:27.840when Eil had come to England, these tidings were heard from Norway.
04:48:31.940That Eric always was dead, but the king's stewards had taken his inheritance and claimed it for the king.
04:48:38.800These tidings, when Aaron Bjorn and Thorstein heard, they resolved that Thorstein should go east and see after the inheritance.
04:48:48.680So when spring came on, and men made ready their ships, who meant to travel from land to land,
04:48:55.380and Thorstein went south to London, and there found King Athelstan.
04:48:59.020He produced tokens and a message from Aaron Bjorn to the king, also to Eil, that he might be his advocate with the king, so that King Athelstan might send a message for himself to King HÃ¥kon, his foster son, advising that Thorstein should get his inheritance and possessions in Norway.
04:49:19.040King Athelstan was easily persuaded of this, because Aaron Bjorn was known to him for good.
04:49:25.900Then came Ael also to speak with King Athelstan and told him his intention.
04:49:33.060I wish this summer, he said, to go eastward to Norway and see after the property of which King Eric and Bergenon robbed me.
04:49:42.240Atli the short, Bergenon's brother, is now in possession.
04:49:46.980I know that if a message of yours be added, I shall get law in this matter.
04:49:52.440the king said that ale should rule his own goings but best me thinks were it he said
04:50:03.840for thee to be with me and be made defender of my land and command my army i will promote thee to
04:50:10.700great honor ale answered this offer i deem most desirable to take i will say yea to it and not
04:50:18.760nay, yet have I first to go to Iceland and see after my wife and the property that I
04:57:30.660They then went their way back, and when they came south over the Dover of Fel, then said Eil that he would go down to Romsdale, and after that south by way of the sounds.
04:57:44.360I will, said he, finish my business in Solgen and Hordaland, for I would fain in the summer take my ship out to Iceland.
04:57:54.360Thorstein bade him settle his journey as he would, so Thorstein and Eil separated.
04:57:59.000Thorstein went south by the Dales all the way till he came to his estates.
04:58:07.840There he produced the tokens of the king and his message before the stewards
04:58:11.660that they should give up all the property which they had taken, and Thorstein claimed.
04:58:17.160No one spoke against it, and he took all his property.
05:03:44.000They now start and soon came to the island.
05:03:47.420There was a fair plain near the sea, which was to be the place of combat. The ground was marked out by stones lying round in a ring. Soon came thither Lyot and his party, then made him ready for combat.
05:04:04.300He had shield and sword. Lyot was a man of vast size and strong.
05:04:11.300And as he came forward on the field to the ground of combat, a fit of berserk fury seized him.
05:04:18.300He began to bellow hideously and bit his shield.
05:04:22.300Fridgir was not a tall man. He was slenderly built, comely in face, not strong.
05:04:29.300strong. He had not been used to combats, but when Eil saw Lyot, then he sang a stave.
05:04:39.600It fits not, young Fregir, to fight with this warrior, Grimnar of Shilbrim. By his gods who
05:04:48.260doth curse, I better may meet him, may rescue the maiden, full fearsome he spareth, yet
05:04:56.240fey are his eyes. Leot saw where Eil stood and heard his words. He said, come thou hither, big man,
05:05:05.540to the home and fight with me if thou hast a wish that way. That is a far more even match than I
05:05:14.140thought I should fight with red gear. For I shall deem me no whit the greater man, though I lay him
05:05:21.600low on earth. Then sang Ao, Liot asketh but little. Loth were I to balk him. Pale white
05:05:32.840my hand plaint shall play on his mail. Come busk we for combat, nor quarter expect thou.
05:05:42.220strifester in myri stern shield cutting all hours after this ale made him ready for combat with the
05:05:52.500ale had the shield that he was wont to have was girded with the sword which he called adder
05:06:01.540but in his hand he had dragvandil he went in over the boundary that marked the battleground
05:11:40.260Aeol went on southwards to Hordaland, taking for this journey a rowing vessel, and thereon 30 men.
05:11:47.960They came on a day to Asgur on Finhring Island.
05:11:53.520Aeol went up to the house with 20 men, while 10 guarded the ship.
05:11:58.560Atle the short was there with some men.
05:12:01.500Aeol bade him to be called out and told that Aeol Scalagrimson had an errand with him.
05:12:08.500Atlee took his weapons, as did all the fighting men that were there, and they went out.
05:12:14.580Aeol spoke, I am told, Atlee, that you hold in keeping that property which of right belongs to me and my wife, Ausgurther.
05:12:22.580you will be like have heard it talked of air now how i claimed the inheritance of bjorn yeoman
05:12:32.000which bergen on your brother kept from me i am now come to look after that property
05:12:38.740lands and chattels and beg you to give it up and pay it into my hands so thatly long have we heard
05:12:47.740Ael, that you are a most unjust man, but now I shall come to prove it. If you mean to claim
05:12:54.800at my hands this property, which King Eric adjudged to bargain on my brother, King Eric
05:13:02.100had then power to bid and ban in this land. I was thinking now, Ael, that you would come here for
05:13:08.660this end, to offer me a fine for my brothers, whose lives you took, and that you would pay
05:13:15.280atonement for the privilege committed by you here at Asker. I would make answer to this proposal
05:13:22.520if you should plead this errand, but here, to this other, I can make none.
05:13:33.560I shall then, said Eam, offer you, as I offered Onund, that Gullithing Law decided our cause.
05:13:43.020Your brothers, I declare, to have fallen without claim for fine and through their own wrong deeds, because they had first plundered me of law and land right and taken my property by force of arms.
05:13:57.620I have the kings leave herein to try the law with you in this cause.
05:14:02.420I summon you to the Gullah thing, there to have lawful decision on the matter.
05:14:07.180To the Gullah thing, said Adley, I will come, and we can there speak of this matter.
05:14:16.640Hereupon, Eo with his comrades went away.
05:14:20.300He went north to Soren, then into Arland to Thord, his wife's kinsman.
05:14:27.720And there he stayed till the Gullah thing.
05:14:30.600And when men came to the thing, then came Eo thither.
05:14:33.800uh atley the short was there was also there they began to declare their cause and pleaded it for
05:14:41.840those who were to judge ale made his demand of money due but atley offered against it as a lawful
05:14:49.500uh defense the oath of 12 men that he atley had in keeping no money that belonged to ale
05:14:56.780And when Atlee went before the court with his twelve who would swear, then went to Ael to meet him and said that he would not accept Atlee for his own property.
05:15:08.540I will offer you other law that we do battle here at the thing, that he shall have the property who wins the victory.
05:15:17.620This was also law, that Aal proposed, in ancient custom, that any man had a right to challenge another to wager a battle, whether he were defendant in the cause or prosecutor.
05:15:33.080at least said that he would not refuse this to do battle with ale for he said you propose what i
05:15:42.280ought to have proposed seeing that i have enough loss to avenge on you you have done to death my
05:15:48.620two brothers and far shall i be from upholding the right if i yield to you mine own possessions
05:15:55.840unlawfully rather than to fight with you when you offer me this choice
05:16:03.080So then Atli and Aeol joined hands, pledged them to do battle, the victor to own the lands for which they had been disputing.
05:16:13.500After this, they arrayed them for combat. Aeol came forward with helm on head and shield before him, halberd in hand.
05:16:22.720But his sword, Dragvandil, he suspended from his right arm.
05:16:27.580It was the custom with those who fought in single combat so to arrange that the sword should need no drawing during the fight, but be attached to the arm to be at ready at once when the combatant willed.
05:16:45.420Atlee had the same arming as Aeo. He was experienced in single combat, was a strong man, and of good courage.
05:16:54.900To the field was led forth a bull, large and old, sacrificial beast, such was termed, to be slain by him who won the victory.
05:17:05.560Sometimes there was one such ox, sometimes each combatant had his own led forth.
05:17:14.760When they were ready for combat, they ran at each other, and first they threw their halberds,
05:17:21.720neither of which stood fast in the foeman's shield, but both struck in the ground.
05:17:27.280Then took they both to their swords and went at it with a will, blow upon blow.
05:24:39.040We have very complete history in a lot of different places that take us pretty comprehensively through the time period and the stuff that that theory talks about.
05:24:58.860I remain open-minded if there's something I need to look into or think about.
05:25:03.420I'm fascinated to learn different things.
05:25:06.020But all of the things that I've seen and have been presented to me, I find, you know, I find without merit so far, but maybe there's something I don't know on it.
05:25:19.020sorry guys still reading through the questions
05:25:55.880Yes answers all of those questions, though I know it doesn't explain it much.
05:26:00.140What we've talked about on the show a number of times is the idea of mythic time.
05:26:06.660Our gods don't die in the sense that you're talking about.
05:26:13.800They are indestructible in that sense.
05:26:17.600Because Ragnarok is in the future, it is now, and it is past. It is all that simultaneously. Mythic time functions very different than linear time, and there's a lot of layers.
05:26:36.000I realize that that sounds like a very complicated answer, but it's the truth and it's the best way that I know to present that truth.
05:26:49.720Yeah, our myths, all of the stories when you read them are present and in the moment when you read them, they're in the future, they're in the past, they're all of those things simultaneously.
05:27:07.560In order for us to better relate to our mythos, to our gods, we see them at all different seasons of their lives and in all of those different situations.
05:27:27.840their truths in those moments reveal themselves to us
05:27:34.320in all the different seasons and situations of our lives
05:27:37.720and the myths are an ever-repeating cycle of
05:27:50.480And that's the, I know that's not the easiest to follow, but that is the truth of it and the way to embody it.
05:28:07.120But what's important for your day-to-day, our day-to-day, and our going forth, our gods exist, they hear us, they interact with us through the gift cycle.
05:28:19.020That is true. Whatever our conception of how we want to make a timeline or how we want to conceive of the time cycle, that happens.
05:28:31.380Life beyond the veil and outside of Midgar, there functions differently.
05:28:38.160But that understanding of death doesn't preclude one from interacting.
05:28:45.480we know that we interact with our loved ones who have passed and that the veil allows that gift
05:28:51.860cycle and interaction to go on. So same is true of our gods. They exist, they interact, they hear us,
05:28:59.440they share with us, and they participate in that gift cycle. And that's the fundamental truth of
05:29:04.440our practice. Everything else builds on that, but that bedrock is absolutely true.
05:29:15.480Also from Morris Taylor, how do you change your mindset from just seeing our people being attacked from every angle to being optimistic and building things for the future, regardless of what other people say?
05:29:33.820It's difficult in this world because we are bombarded with negative stuff all the time.
05:29:48.900You focus on the things in your life that you have control of.
05:29:54.600You get lost if all of your focus is towards these big macro geopolitical things that involve billions of people that you feel powerless to affect.
05:30:07.840I mean, be aware of the world around you.
05:30:10.400If you have a way to affect the big picture, then cool.
05:30:13.200but you have infinite ways to affect the small picture you have plenty of ways before you
05:30:23.340to make life for yourself and your family better
05:30:27.540you have literally infinite opportunity in front of you to build for yourself and your family
05:30:37.420If you're always focused on what you don't have and opportunities that you don't have, you are blinded to all of the opportunities that you do have, and there's tons.
05:30:53.320Very specifically, I channel all of that frustration and angst and concern into the OUSA True Folk Assembly.
05:31:03.940You have the ability, as a member of the House True Folk Assembly, to drastically affect the lives of hundreds, likely thousands, possibly tens of thousands of people.
05:31:20.500That's so much more than most people have access to.
05:31:26.180In the AFA, we've done amazing things in just the past few years.
05:31:31.540In the last decade, we've established the first four real Hoffs to our gods in a thousand years.
05:31:44.260For a thousand years, Othin and Thor and Balder and Yordher did not have Hoffs.
05:36:22.440Don't just be lonely and take whatever comes your way.
05:36:27.200Have standards and shoot for people that you think are maybe out of your league.
05:36:33.500And if you really do that, you can probably, you know, be successful beyond what maybe you're entitled to if you have the courage to go out there and try to make it happen.
05:37:49.200but you should assume that if people have been doing something for a long time
05:37:54.060and have had success at it maybe they know a little something about what they're doing
05:37:58.700when they make choices that maybe you don't think you would have made maybe they have
05:38:04.300reasons and see things from a perspective that you don't see when we're in our early 20s
05:38:10.940this is speaking for myself but also so many people that i know you think you know everything
05:38:16.940man if i was only there i would do this or i would do that i'd do different or i'd do whatever
05:38:23.340You don't know that until you're there and you're exposed to the same vantage point that some of the people you think you do differently than are.
05:38:33.000All this may sound cryptic, but I do think it's really good advice.
05:38:38.060And rather than enthusiastically jumping behind one thing after another, after another, after another, if you don't have immediate success, invest in your long-term success.
05:38:53.860And when you find something that is good, take the time to let it work itself out and to build yourself within that context.
05:39:04.020Rather than being flaky and trying a million different things and failing at all of them, find the things that actually are valuable to you and invest the time to let them work out.
05:39:18.180Probably a million other things if you ask me at a different time, but those are the things that I can think of right now.
05:39:23.860um last one um what does Odin think of homosexuals
05:39:37.900I think it would be impious of me to well Odin thinks this I think that's the wrong thing for
05:39:47.200to do. Everything in our lore and in our being tells me homosexuality, especially male homosexuality,
05:40:03.040is a mental disorder that is in a lot of ways disgusting to our traditional value system.
05:40:13.880It inverts the values of masculinity and femininity in a toxic and malignant way that's indicative
05:40:22.520of a dangerous and concerning mental illness.
05:40:27.060And I think, you know, our ancestors certainly did not approve of it.
05:40:32.680And it was dealt with more or less harshly in a lot of different contexts.
05:40:37.700One of the things that we know to be true in our current life experience and in the world around us, male homosexuality is a mental illness that replicates through vampirism, for lack of a better term.
05:40:58.280And there's kind of the phrase out there, hurt people hurt people.
05:41:08.520There is a common thread amongst every homosexual that I've known well enough to where they were willing to admit this and many, many things that I've read anecdotally.
05:41:21.020And many people who I've spoken to have been the victim of abuse.
05:41:28.280That is propagated by the exploitation and abuse of children, and it becomes a generational process that preys on the innocence of children to propagate itself.
05:41:41.060it's a very dangerous thing and a thing that we do not allow in the austral folk assembly and we
05:41:52.120guard heavily against because it is a a threat to the well-being of our children and to