Asatru Folk Assembly - 12⧸25⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 129 - Egill's Saga, Part 4

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00:03:00.720 Hello, everyone, and welcome to another exciting edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:07.420 As you may can tell by my seasonal attire, we are coming to you on the sixth day of Yule.

00:03:17.700 And it's an honor to be sharing part of this very holy period of time with you guys.

00:03:23.880 I know many of you, you know, could be and hopefully are spending time with your families.

00:03:28.860 I hope everyone has had an awesome Yule.

00:03:32.280 This last weekend, we had Yule at all four of the AFA's Hoffs.

00:03:38.160 And it sounds like I wish I could simultaneously be at all of them, but I cannot.

00:03:46.840 Yule at Odenshoff is amazing.

00:03:49.180 It was, I mean, I say this every time.

00:03:52.600 yule is just a really special time of year and it's a very special time at odin's off and at

00:03:59.000 the other offs i assume um really really nice odin's off this year i think sheila said the

00:04:07.960 total count at the high watermark was 92 people that's that's a lot tons of kids kids from all

00:04:17.080 ages babes in arms up to teenagers everything in between and you know they were all doing

00:04:24.600 so well together making instant friends and enjoying the day um really nice time got to see

00:04:31.560 some people for the very first time some people that you know for whatever other reasons this

00:04:37.400 the first time they've been in a little bit and it was a joy to get to spend that time with all of

00:04:42.360 them um heard reports from the others other hoffs that it was a wonderful time as well i know at

00:04:50.200 thor's hoff was a particularly special yule this year was very nice had a lot of really good things

00:04:56.200 happen um at thor's hoff this year we had a number of new york's hoff members that were traveling

00:05:05.000 and they were able to celebrate yule at thor's hoff which is cool one of the i think one of

00:05:11.320 the things about the astro folk assembly that people don't often enough realize or utilize

00:05:20.200 is that our membership is spread over you know it's spread pretty good and pretty thickly over

00:05:26.040 the united states and uh you know not to mention we have members in 13 additional countries um

00:05:34.920 but that means that you know if you're traveling you find yourself somewhere for

00:05:39.400 one of our holy tides by all means if you're anywhere near one of our hoffs go

00:05:44.600 do that celebrate there it's you know just because it's not in your district doesn't

00:05:49.480 mean it's not your hoff also um we have moots and gatherings of our folk around the country

00:05:57.880 it blows me away there's a calendar at runestone.org if you click the calendar link you can see kind

00:06:04.600 of the master calendar of all the events happening in the astro folk assembly and it's i don't know

00:06:13.240 this far into it and as close as i am to everything i still

00:06:17.400 enjoy going on there and just seeing the amount of activity that we have different places

00:06:22.120 and uh yeah there's a lot of things we've got people near you wherever you're at so

00:06:29.240 give that a thought if you find yourself traveling if you uh or if you ever just want to

00:06:38.440 you know we got members all around around the country it's neat to have the tight knit element

00:06:45.160 of the austral folk assembly family at your disposal to be there for you and you know i don't

00:06:51.720 want to uh linger on that over long to say that you know if you are if you are having difficulties

00:07:01.000 and if you're in trouble you have a lot of people there to help you and to get you through and to

00:07:06.440 be there for you uh which is self-evident but what i really wanted to focus on is you got a lot of

00:07:11.640 people to celebrate with you got a lot of people to fellowship with you've got a lot of people to

00:07:16.520 build lasting friendships with doing afa planning for things and for hoffs and just watching our

00:07:25.240 membership over the years it occurs to me just how mobile we are as a people you know for not

00:07:34.120 too many generations prior to ours a lot of people were in one area their entire life maybe

00:07:39.880 they made one big move and completely uprooted their family for the next several generations

00:07:45.880 we're in a time where people move all the time and if you got a good thing going where you're

00:07:50.920 at with the afa but you want to move talk to your folk builder chances are you can have a good thing

00:07:55.800 where you're at wherever you move to we've got a lot of great great afa activity so i really want

00:08:00.680 to encourage everybody to get involved with that we're smack dab in the middle of our 12 days of

00:08:08.440 mule as i mentioned earlier this is this is day six so you know some people are winding down we've

00:08:15.800 still got you know still got six more days to to celebrate and to fellowship and to worship in a

00:08:23.000 really special time of year a time of year that has always been so very meaningful to our folk

00:08:30.120 and i mean you can see that in our full traditions up to today and you know as far back as you can

00:08:37.240 go. So yeah, be part of it, you know, take the time, take the time to celebrate and really

00:08:43.540 take it all in. Cause you know, the, the more you, you focus on spending this time

00:08:50.920 in joy, in worship, in contemplation, in study, in really embracing the bright spots

00:09:01.460 in your life um i've at least i've found it's it's a real special thing and it it's a very

00:09:08.500 meaningful thing how's your yule going swan well just besides the pestilence um i had to leave

00:09:18.020 thor's off early i didn't want to get a bunch of people sick um and had a kind of a rough ride home

00:09:24.660 and then i spent about two days recuperating um and then had to work because work doesn't stop

00:09:32.980 but um no it it it leveled out and especially by ancestors night everything kind of all the chaos

00:09:41.780 kind of subsided and we had a wonderful ancestors night we have our 103 year old great grandma here

00:09:49.780 we had you know my mother-in-law and a lot of folks that had a lot of stories about the ancestors

00:09:55.780 and um you know we the kids were happy the yule elf made a successful um delivery and uh yeah

00:10:04.340 i mean outside of that you know we're um i had mounties day you know i didn't get a chance to

00:10:10.500 do too much so i got to kind of catch up on that with calendar stuff and um today's tears day but

00:10:17.140 again i was working i had to work um a couple of folks people that i guess just don't have family

00:10:24.180 or well actually he had family in town so i yeah i don't know um just went in worked and then hung

00:10:31.860 out so everything's been really really good i can't wait for uh odin's night odin's nights the

00:10:37.940 night that i cast runes i usually don't do it very often once a year so i'm i'm waiting to see that

00:10:47.140 i know that last year the runes had spoken of us um gaining a new venture and a new property and

00:10:53.620 that ended up becoming a reality so i wonder what the runes will say for this next coming year

00:11:04.180 yeah i know a lot of people during this time is you know if they're going if they're going

00:11:11.060 to at all this is the time that folks often do a do a room full and it's a special time for that

00:11:22.580 yeah just excited to be enjoying the evening with you guys during this really wonderful time of the

00:11:29.220 year gw farnsworth as normal bought us our five coffees we appreciate that right at the top of

00:11:37.300 the show but he was feeling particularly generous today and also gave us a hundred dollar donation

00:11:44.020 to folk services and a hundred dollar donation towards the payoff of njortsoff okay so it's kind

00:11:52.820 of a year's end update on where we're at with that nick do you have those numbers handy yes you do

00:12:02.500 So we have $69,975 left that we owe. That means we are 73.1% paid off of that half,

00:12:27.680 which is amazing um that is a tremendous amount of progress in a relatively short amount of time

00:12:34.560 you guys have been super generous we really appreciate it and i want to just keep everybody

00:12:41.760 up to date on how that is how that is going okay and this is not including the hundred dollars that

00:12:50.400 gw farnsworth just contributed to us thank you so much for that um yes that's where that's at

00:12:59.280 appreciate that we have it to where if every member of the astro folk assembly were to donate

00:13:06.880 88 today that hoff would be paid off instantly and uh every month we get a little bit closer

00:13:16.480 and we appreciate y'all's generosity with that um swan updated you a little bit on his uh

00:13:25.440 disease progression i ended up reading you know the last section of um last week's saga material

00:13:37.760 and it was it was getting exciting we are three quarters of the way through and

00:13:46.480 I hope you guys will bear with us tonight.

00:13:49.460 But it is our, we will finish Ayo Saga tonight.

00:13:55.960 We will have done it in four parts.

00:14:00.280 We've covered a lot of ground, but it's been a lot of fun.

00:14:03.860 We've got a lot of, I don't know, a lot of enjoyment,

00:14:08.380 a lot of refreshing our knowledge on that spectacular piece of work.

00:14:15.560 And I'd have to say that's, of the Icelandic sagas, that is the saga that's the one most

00:14:23.480 people, that's the one people tend to enjoy the most, tend to talk about the most.

00:14:28.100 I know some others have a couple other sagas that, you know, I hear pop up in list of favorites.

00:14:33.740 But this one is pretty solid.

00:14:35.600 And if you are unfamiliar with sagas and you haven't read them before, this is a really

00:14:41.900 good intro to that world.

00:14:43.600 um and if you're an old hat at it hopefully you're enjoying the uh the refresher course

00:14:50.260 also before we start tonight if you could take a look or i guess if you want to the map the html

00:14:58.020 map for the sagas that's really cool yeah you have to play with the google translate at the

00:15:04.140 top to translate the page in english unless you can read icelandic in which case bravo

00:15:09.900 um but translation is pretty good you can follow along well it hyperlinks though to all of the

00:15:17.300 locations every time they mention a place name this gets you to that spot and it really helps

00:15:24.500 if you want to dial in on the geography in which this story is is told which it on the the events

00:15:31.940 unfold and it also familiarizes you with things if you just you know you aren't necessarily that

00:15:37.700 sharp on old scandinavian geography this it's very insightful and i thought it was really cool

00:15:45.220 keep in mind it has um for all of the icelandic sagas they are plotted on this

00:15:51.300 so it's useful for a lot of other sagas besides just this one um

00:15:58.100 also go ahead the website that uh i'm reading from if anybody wants to follow that

00:16:06.180 voluspa.org forward slash al saga

00:16:09.900 that one's cool because it's got the side by side um with the original old norse text

00:16:18.200 so it's neat to kind of see how certain things are translated and spawn you know delves into

00:16:26.160 that a little bit if something strikes him interesting um yeah we got a lot of ground

00:16:33.080 to cover tonight um we're going to be starting on chapter 70 okay and reading right on through

00:16:41.100 till the end so yeah i i was wondering where you where you got to and it just sucks to hear like

00:16:47.840 i missed the need stong i missed um the the poem of like keeping his head

00:16:58.080 i missed like it was like just in that last little bit i missed some of my favorite stuff

00:17:04.240 so yeah and i just

00:17:05.840 so whoever did the translating work on that poem that he composed in honor of uh king eric bloodaxe

00:17:22.160 it was masterfully done like that has always stood out as a master work of

00:17:30.160 that art of the skull of his day um

00:17:35.840 We know the original was amazing, but the translation, the couplets, they all rhymed, they were delivered, like, they were written powerfully.

00:17:47.900 It was really a joy to go back over that in such a beautifully translated rendition of it.

00:17:59.260 It's really good stuff. If you missed it last week, you should definitely check it out.

00:18:05.840 I don't have the chapter in my brain right now to tell you where to look it up.

00:18:12.800 If you need to go back.

00:18:14.280 Chapter 60.

00:18:16.320 Chapter 60.

00:18:17.620 The Head Ransom is the name of the poem.

00:18:20.500 So if you were not here last week, didn't get a chance to check that out.

00:18:26.180 You absolutely should.

00:18:27.480 It is, you know, the most powerful standalone testament of Aeol's scholarship.

00:18:37.760 And I really wanted to, like, recite it and to read it.

00:18:41.320 And I missed it.

00:18:45.180 All right.

00:18:46.520 Well, so Svan, if and whenever you are ready, feel free to take us into the material.

00:18:54.940 you guys can always feel free to ask any questions that you like if they're related to topics we're

00:19:03.060 on or the material at hand we'll get to them um you know at chapter breaks if they are

00:19:10.780 about literally anything else you want to ask about um we may take them if we have an intermission

00:19:18.740 but we'll certainly answer them by the close of the program so please ask any and everything that

00:19:26.500 you know that strikes you that you'd like to know more on or you'd like us to

00:19:31.620 give your thoughts on um also vns at runestone.org that is at any time you can send questions you can

00:19:44.340 send suggestions for topics or things that you would like us to cover or maybe things we've

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00:20:35.860 white persons that want to reconnect with the gods of their folk they should do that in the

00:20:42.340 astro folk assembly um this is something that is best done together with a community with

00:20:53.700 you know in the context of frith and hymenia and tradition and we would love to have as many

00:21:00.660 of our folk as we can come home so you got a couple days left if for some reason you don't

00:21:08.740 in the next week make 2025 your year we want to bring as many of our folk home as we can

00:21:14.260 we got important things to do and we want to do it together

00:21:17.300 So with that, Svahn, please take us into chapter 70.

00:21:24.340 All right, chapter 70.

00:21:27.100 Eil decides on a journey to Vermiland.

00:21:31.180 King Harold the Fairhair had subdued Vermiland eastward as far as Lake Vener.

00:21:39.740 vermiland had first been cleared and tilled by olaf tree cutter father of halfdan white bone

00:21:48.940 who first of his family was the was king in norway and from him on the father's side was king was

00:21:56.540 king harold descended and all of his forefathers had ruled over vermiland and taken tribute there

00:22:04.380 from and set men in charge over the land but when harold was grown had grown old

00:22:12.380 then was an earl named arnvind i mean yeah arnvinder arnvind uh governor of vermiland

00:22:24.380 it happened there as elsewhere that the tribute was worse paid now than when harold was in the

00:22:31.900 vigor of life so also was it when harold's son strove for the rule of norway the outlying

00:22:40.380 tributary lands were little looked after but when hackon sat in peace then inquired he after all

00:22:49.820 the empire that his father harold had had king hackon had sent eastwards to vermiland a company

00:22:57.020 of twelve men these had received tribute from the earl but as they were going back to eitherwood

00:23:05.580 robbers set upon them and slew all of them the same hat befell yet another group of messengers

00:23:14.700 sent by king hackon east to vermiland the men were slain and no money was received

00:23:22.380 Then was it said by some that Earl Arnvind belike set men of his own to slay the king's men and regain the tribute that was paid out, whereupon King Hakon sent yet another, a third company.

00:23:40.740 he was then at the time in throndheim and the messengers were to go to vic and seek thorstein

00:23:49.480 thora's son with these words that he should go eastward to vermiland and gather in tribute for

00:23:57.700 the king or else he must leave the land so he's facing outlawry at this point if i could check

00:24:05.040 real quick. Sfahn, are you reading chapter 70? Yes. Chapter 70. Yeah. Aeol decides on a journey

00:24:17.680 to Vermiland. Is it mixed up on your end with the translation? Yeah. I know towards the end,

00:24:27.060 though, it numbers some things differently. Looks like what you are reading on my end is chapter 71.

00:24:33.360 one oh well so the bigger okay so i should go back one

00:24:40.360 um yeah i'm not sure what the discrepancy is though that's what i'm trying to

00:24:47.280 i don't know if there's a numbering difference or just what

00:24:51.420 i don't know uh did you get to the part where chapter 69 where um arnbjorn and ale's viking

00:24:59.460 expedition well so my thing doesn't necessarily title it um oh yeah and i i know this happens a

00:25:13.260 lot too with the halvamal and with the volus file that they uh the numbers are different

00:25:18.060 more so with the halvamal you know so chapter 69 in what i was reading is very tiny

00:25:27.460 is that what it looks like on your end too oh i mean chapter 69 paragraph and then into this

00:25:39.060 so huh where i ended last time because i'm the uh so we're running into a thing here i apologize guys

00:25:47.780 um to where there's a discrepancy in the map version that i was plugging a second ago

00:25:55.060 and the easier-to-read version where I'm at.

00:26:01.040 So 69 and mine ended...

00:26:04.880 Actually, all right, chapter 70 began.

00:26:08.060 You'll heard tidings from the east over the seas

00:26:10.260 that are bled, axe, and fallen in the west while freebooting.

00:26:17.160 Hmm.

00:26:19.540 That might... 1.00

00:26:21.000 See, I think that might actually be in the middle of mine, dealing with the Phrygians. 1.00

00:26:30.280 We'll get this sorted out in a sec, guys. 1.00

00:26:32.280 I'm sorry.

00:26:33.160 I'm going to check.

00:26:37.000 Here, chapter 68, Aeol, after Yuletide, was taken with much sadness, and he spake not a word.

00:26:44.760 Okay, on nine, that is how, okay, on the map version, that is, I'm going up here, that's how, it's how 69, him being, him being sick after Yule.

00:27:09.720 Yeah, I can relate now.

00:27:11.740 yes chapter 69 yeah that's 68 for me so i'm one i guess it's number one behind

00:27:19.480 um okay so i'm trying to figure out where exactly i left off last time on this because

00:27:29.320 i'm going between my two versions i have up um i just don't want to make sure nobody's missing the

00:27:35.860 uh, missing the story if they're going, you know, following you through this the first

00:27:41.800 time, and I'm trying to find exactly where we're at.

00:27:44.440 Okay, so I, all right. His Yuletide sickness is the start of chapter 71 in the thing I was just

00:28:10.500 reading. So where are you, where are you in relation to his Yuletide, him being sick at

00:28:15.320 Yuletide? Chapter 68. That's 68 on your end? Yeah. Eyal after Yuletide was taken with much

00:28:23.680 sadness. All right. So what's, so I guess you're looking at chapter 60. How does your chapter 67

00:28:30.620 start. Let me bump

00:28:32.840 back there.

00:28:36.720 Ale heard tidings from the east

00:28:38.760 over the seas.

00:28:39.420 All right, so we're locking in now.

00:28:43.480 Okay.

00:28:44.920 Sorry, guys.

00:28:46.720 Yeah, that took a minute. And again, the translations

00:28:48.760 between different ones

00:28:50.120 always kind of throw the

00:28:52.720 numbers off.

00:28:56.740 Let's see.

00:28:58.800 Chapter 67.

00:29:00.620 Eil's last journey abroad. Eil had heard tidings from the east over the seas that Eric the Bloodaxe had fallen in the west while freebooting, but his wife, Gunnhilde, and her sons and Eric's had gone to Denmark.

00:29:21.900 and all those that had followed Eric to England had left that country. This too he had heard

00:29:30.060 that Arnbjorn was now come to Norway. He had taken again the grants and possessions that he had

00:29:37.380 before and had gotten great favor with the king. Then Ale thought it desirable again to go to

00:29:43.820 Norway. Besides this came the tidings that King Athelstan was dead. His brother Edmund now ruled

00:29:51.160 all of england so at this point i think it's just worth to reminding folks like the rivalry that

00:29:58.640 between eric and ale um kind of ends with his death so now he's

00:30:07.380 unafraid and he's going to kind of go back into his old stomping grounds if you will

00:30:14.220 um so ale made ready his ship he got himself a crew

00:30:21.420 onund sioni was among them son of auny of anna brecca uh onund was tall and the strongest of

00:30:32.940 those men who were there in the countryside nay some doubted whether he was uh if he was were not

00:30:39.420 shape strong. So they wondered if he was a shapeshifter or a wolfling man or a bear man

00:30:53.860 or some person of berserk strength. Aonund had often been on voyages from land to land.

00:31:02.740 He was somewhat older than Eil. There had long been friendship between the two.

00:31:08.720 And when Eil was ready, he put out to sea, and their voyage sped well.

00:31:13.380 They came to mid-Norway, and when they sighted land, they steered for the Firths.

00:31:18.560 For anybody just joining us, the Firths are fjords, by this translation.

00:31:24.620 They soon got tidings from land, and it was told to them that Arnbjorn was at home on his land.

00:31:33.720 Eil put his ship into the haven nearest to Arnbjorn's hall, and then he went to seek Arnbjorn.

00:31:41.180 And a most joyful meeting was theirs.

00:31:43.920 Arnbjorn offered quarters for Eil and such for his men, as many of the men as he'd like to bring up there.

00:31:52.080 Then Eil accepted, had his ship set up on rollers and brought up on land, but his crew found them quarters.

00:31:59.360 So Eil and Eleven with him went to Arnbjorn, while the rest stayed and tented with the ship.

00:32:06.680 Eil had caused to be made a long ship sail, elaborately worked.

00:32:12.220 This he gave to Arnbjorn, and yet other gifts of great value.

00:32:17.260 Eil was there for the winter and treated with much honor.

00:32:21.500 in the winter ale sent went southwards to solon to collect his land rents staying there sometime

00:32:33.220 and then after that came north again to the fjords arnbjorn held a great yule feast

00:32:40.880 to which he bade his friends and neighboring landowners to join him there was much company

00:32:47.620 and good cheer. Arnbjorn gave Eil as a Yule gift a trailing robe made of silk. It was richly

00:32:56.640 embroidered with gold and studded with golden buttons in the front all down the hem. Arnbjorn

00:33:04.000 had had the robe made to fit Eil's large stature. Arnbjorn gave this to Eil at Yule,

00:33:12.940 A complete suit newly made, it was of the English clothes with many, many bright colors.

00:33:21.020 Friendly gifts to many, many kinds gave Arnbjorn at Yule to those who were his guests.

00:33:27.580 For Arnbjorn was beyond all men, an open-handed and noble host.

00:33:34.640 Then Eo composed this poem.

00:33:37.780 Warrior gave to poet

00:33:41.880 Silken robe gold glistening

00:33:45.260 Never shall I find me

00:33:47.960 Friend of better faith

00:33:49.860 Arnbjorn untiring

00:33:52.680 Earneth well his honors

00:33:55.100 For his like the ages

00:33:58.100 Long may look in vain

00:34:00.280 I just I love the

00:34:04.860 the fact that the relation to the Yule tide. And I know a lot of folks speak about like,

00:34:11.940 oh, you need to celebrate Yule according to Yule Manal, according to the Anglo-Saxons. But

00:34:18.520 it's worth remembering by this time, the Anglo-Saxons were converted, were fully using

00:34:24.080 the Christian calendar. So, you know, a lot of folks kind of, I think, are misplaced in that,

00:34:31.700 in understanding. And I think that by this time, the Nordic folk were using a solar lunar calendar

00:34:39.020 and were marking the days and counting them. So, you know, the more likelihood is that

00:34:45.620 they were directly on the solstice timeframe and following that with not so much the moon

00:34:54.020 as being the guide. So I always, I find that just around this time of year, a lot of

00:35:01.600 well actually is online or you know saying oh it's not until january or what have you anyways

00:35:09.120 well i had a discussion with somebody over on twitter um a few days ago and

00:35:19.840 again i've i've said on this program a number of times the big question isn't isn't what or even

00:35:28.720 when but but why so it's interesting to see the point and to honor the purpose

00:35:40.880 especially when there's ambiguity about you know the exact how everything was done or exactly when

00:35:47.920 everything was done in all likelihood our ancestors in different places over different centuries

00:35:54.240 probably did things you know had various various reasons for convenience to do things at different

00:36:04.340 times some of the things though that are fixed and that are you know pretty much always fixed

00:36:14.420 things are solstices and equinoxes they happen um the moon is a fixed thing that happens

00:36:22.640 And I think that it's worth noting, our ancestors always celebrated equinoxes and solstices.

00:36:33.560 And when I say always, I mean back into the Neolithic period, at least.

00:36:40.200 That's always been a standout thing that was important.

00:36:44.240 It's how many of the ancient monuments, any of the stone monuments that we know of, say any, many of the stone monuments.

00:36:52.640 in europe that we know of are oriented specifically to celebrate that occurrence

00:36:59.840 the idea of in the midst of the winter during the darkest period celebrating the return of

00:37:09.200 the light after that period celebrating through that darkness honoring that turning of the year

00:37:17.280 in in like that's not somebody's opinion or a calendar they made or whatever it's an astrological

00:37:24.080 thing there's a point where it stops being increasingly dark and it becomes increasingly

00:37:30.640 light that occurs at a fixed at a fixed moment um the fact that that lands you know within our

00:37:40.000 current 12 days of yuletide that we celebrate is i think that's important because that's obviously

00:37:47.200 something that's always been important the turning of the year was also important and however you

00:37:52.720 reckon or you reckon that in whatever time you are in maybe that means different things different

00:37:58.560 places in different times but in the world of 2024 about to be 2025 it's january 1st it's always

00:38:09.940 january for 20 or january 1st we know it's january 1st it's january 1st that's when 2025 be

00:38:17.200 begins if you want to suggest something other than that you're just confusing people and it's odd

00:38:23.660 and it's strange and it doesn't make a lot of sense this celebration being the very ending

00:38:31.840 of the month of december and encompassing the uh the solstice like it does is very functional with

00:38:41.480 The two things that were very important we know to our ancestors during this time is recognizing that solstice and celebrating the ending of one cycle, one yearly cycle, and the beginning of the next one.

00:38:58.540 And this does that really well with Mother's Night being on the 20th and then 12th night being on New Year's Eve.

00:39:05.960 we that perfectly puts us into the new year it is also very nice that it aligns with so many other

00:39:17.000 end of the year celebrations because it allows us to be part of that in our community in a special

00:39:26.680 way to where we're not oddballs and that sounds like an odd thing but especially because this is 0.70

00:39:35.020 ours to begin with, and it's been co-opted by so many centuries by the Christians.

00:39:44.440 There's this strange melding and meshing and interplay of traditions. It's very nice within

00:39:51.820 families and within the world around us to be able to full-throatedly embrace Yule, embrace all the

00:39:59.840 fun things about yule that all of our folk enjoy and to know that that's ours and that comes from

00:40:06.720 our traditions and to own that and celebrate that during this time is uh socially it works really

00:40:14.640 well and fits in very well in what we're doing so nobody's trying to pull a fast one nobody's trying

00:40:21.200 to suggest that you know this is exactly how it was practiced in ancient times or exactly how

00:40:28.320 you know the vikings did it that's never been our intent that's never been something that we claimed

00:40:33.680 and that's that's not what we're doing but we are absolutely trying to honor honor the spirit

00:40:40.080 of that occasion honor the purpose for which it was celebrated to the best of our ability

00:40:46.160 and to take this time to

00:40:47.600 build warmth within our kinship and within our friends our family and spend this time giving

00:40:58.640 worship to our gods and strengthening strengthening that relationship as well so just as a side note

00:41:07.760 yeah i think it was it's beautiful when i came to the outside to focus i believe

00:41:12.880 your emphasis on not being alien um really did entice me like that was a great move and wisdom

00:41:21.520 because you know you have these people that are like i'm going to use the pre-christian

00:41:25.520 anglo-saxon lunar calendar and yule is only three days and it's at the full moon and it's in january

00:41:32.480 okay that means okay but when we do yule like as we do it now with the 20th and the 21st

00:41:41.920 and it's cycling of the 12 days which has its own evolution um you know we find ourselves

00:41:47.440 synthesizing with our family with our neighbors and so we don't seem so alien and i get to explain

00:41:54.880 to my clients and all of them love those the traditions and they don't feel put off they

00:42:02.080 don't feel like we're trying to uh you know get a scare factor or make some sort of edge lording

00:42:08.080 trophy um and it you know just so good with uh ancestors night and then the next day is tears

00:42:16.800 day and we we go and spend like christmas day with our family members who normally celebrate

00:42:24.320 on the 25th so it all works out super well and then lighting the boom fire at the end

00:42:30.160 And on Twelfth Night as a New Year's celebration is really, really good.

00:42:38.400 So, yeah.

00:42:41.440 And we segued there.

00:42:43.860 All right.

00:42:44.980 It happens.

00:42:46.440 We're doing this episode during Yule.

00:42:48.360 I think it's timely and appropriate.

00:42:51.020 And it does answer questions that I think folks have.

00:42:54.960 yeah it comes up every time this year where people will talk about like the lunar calendar

00:43:02.160 and they very rarely ever bring up like the runic calendar which was solar lunar solar first they

00:43:08.800 they counted sundowns and they knew that the year was like a 364 day year with a day zero a kind of

00:43:19.260 a turning day um that would allow for everything to kind of catch up and it was probably spread

00:43:27.900 up through from the greeks but it's a perennial calendar um that uh is consistent throughout its

00:43:36.140 its time reckoning but our ancestors used many different versions of time reckoning and i think

00:43:42.780 that the solstices and the equinoxes like you said those are now with science we can pinpoint them

00:43:51.660 you know to the second and i think that that's really good and we should use that and

00:43:58.220 we don't shift stuff around and then giving us a margin for error with the 12 days is nice not

00:44:06.540 Not that we need a 12-day margin error, but occasionally we need two.

00:44:11.820 Depending on where you find yourself, as far as the time zones go,

00:44:16.840 that moment of solstice can find itself on either side.

00:44:21.760 I believe this year, because it was so very early in the morning,

00:44:25.120 the actual moment of solstice, that which was the longest night

00:44:30.260 kind of depends on where you were at.

00:44:34.100 so um so yeah but that's why we do what we do um

00:44:41.700 there's a lot of people out there that don't a lot of people don't get it and i think that

00:44:50.180 that's fair don't mind us guys we go on these little little detours every now and again

00:44:57.220 And we still get through them too.

00:45:05.460 When you first start out, especially as Alistair True in this day and age is making its way in the world

00:45:15.220 and establishing itself in the greater public consciousness,

00:45:21.660 when, and I think we all do this a little bit, you know,

00:45:25.860 you watch a new show or you hear a new song you haven't heard before and you want to show it

00:45:30.940 share it to all your friends and it's brand new doesn't matter that it came out like five years

00:45:36.640 ago it's new to you you found it this afternoon so it's new to everybody else too and we all do

00:45:43.360 that that's awesome being enthused about what you're doing is really cool um and i don't don't

00:45:49.240 ever let old crusty folks like spawn and myself you know spoil that excitement for you and that's

00:45:55.340 last thing we'd ever want to do we get crusty when there's things that we run into time and time

00:46:02.380 again and they get tedious but for you this may be the very first time and we were there too we

00:46:09.020 respect that one of the things when people first find this and it's not in the public consciousness

00:46:17.020 rather than ask questions for those who've been doing it for a while they jump in and they

00:46:21.740 you know they all sudden know the exact right way to do it want to tell everybody how to do it

00:46:28.460 want to they don't necessarily get all of the reasons how things came to be the way they are

00:46:35.400 and why those decisions are made and why folks do things the way they do so i think people start out

00:46:41.500 as if they're the first person to think of this and as if they're trying to reinvent the wheel

00:46:48.160 we've run into that within also true internally a lot of times one of the things that's plagued

00:46:54.080 us for you know literally generations every new person with a new idea wants to burn it all down

00:47:00.560 and reinvent the wheel and do you know do their own way and and then take us back to year one um it is

00:47:10.160 important to realize there's probably a lot of right ways to do things

00:47:19.600 there's definitely a lot of wrong ways to do things but there's probably quite a few

00:47:25.280 ways things could have gone ways things would have gone or might have gone

00:47:30.600 but there's also a way things have gone for a long time in a really beautiful tradition that's

00:47:36.060 been built around those things and it's funny to sacrifice that for theories about how ancient

00:47:45.480 people might have done stuff or not in one particular place in one particular instance

00:47:53.900 instead of you know the way that we've been doing it for the last

00:48:00.760 about to be 59 years um in the afa we're coming up on worth noting here too while we're

00:48:12.760 talking about you know extraneous things this yuletide marks the uh 30th anniversary of the

00:48:22.240 astrofolk assembly at the conclusion of this yule and the dawning of the new year

00:48:27.760 that will be third the first 30 years of the astro folk assembly will be in the history books

00:48:33.680 and we will be embarking on on that next 30 years the next of of many many many cycles of 30 years

00:48:44.320 but having you know three solid decades into this is the astro folk assembly is a

00:48:50.960 is an amazing accomplishment and something that i've really been

00:48:56.800 really been thinking a lot and appreciating a lot during this Yuletide. That's been something

00:49:03.180 that's been, you know, heavily on my mind. So that's something to note as well.

00:49:11.200 I did want to address one thing that Finn Raith had mentioned about Christianity and Saturnalia.

00:49:18.220 I think that the connection to Saturnalia and Christmas, I think that Christians were actually more influenced by Saturnalia, but that Yule traditions were very strongly established in potato Europe for levity.

00:49:37.300 in tomato europe saturnalia had died away and christianity had kind of um synthesized it but

00:49:45.160 in the north the yuletide um was already very well established and what ended up happening is

00:49:54.060 it was like saturnalia and christianity kind of inserted themselves into the yuletide tradition

00:50:01.180 And the farther north you go, the less, you know, tomato Europe it really, really is. And you can see this with like St. Niklaus of the Dutch, where he looks like a bishop and in certain parts of Germany.

00:50:21.120 But then, you know, you go up north and it's the Tomta and the Yule Bach and things of that nature.

00:50:27.920 And I think that a lot of Christians try to say, oh, you know, this is just really like a reenactment of Saturnalia.

00:50:33.880 Now, there could be further back that Yule was influenced by the Mediterraneans, just like May Day.

00:50:41.140 May Day was a flower festival that we know originated in the Mediterranean, but somehow had kind of spread through possibly trade and just kind of admiration for the idea of it, where it kind of spread northward. 0.79

00:50:57.600 But it wasn't a one for one. It was more or less like we like what they're doing, but we're going to do our own way of it. 0.90

00:51:06.320 But, you know, the connections of Saturnalia and like Isis to Ostera, I think those don't have a lot of ground. 0.96

00:51:15.360 And I think that the reason why the Christians are doing that is because they were bringing they were coming from the Holy Roman Empire.

00:51:24.100 So they brought a lot of those kind of understandings. 0.81

00:51:27.160 Well, it happened here, so they apply it to the North. 1.00

00:51:31.940 I think the Christians just like to be grumpy on it. 1.00

00:51:35.040 I think if they were facing, so, and when we say the Christians, 1.00

00:51:42.320 Christian people in the blogosphere, social media circles that some of us find ourselves in, 0.96

00:51:49.800 that's where they like to be fussy because their opposition 0.98

00:51:55.720 religiously speaking comes from us their issue that they fight most you know that has meat to

00:52:06.900 it that's you know something that is threatening is the rise of ausiture if we were not and a

00:52:16.820 return to the ancestral gods were championed and spearheaded by a hellenic variant or a latin

00:52:25.780 variant then they would be telling those people that no it's not saturnalia it's yule like those

00:52:32.580 vikings were doing it's just a form of contrarianism something to think that's also really interesting

00:52:40.740 at some point

00:52:46.740 christianity and their savior and their root people and the

00:52:54.740 historical event that they are commemorating

00:52:59.620 occurred in foreign lands by foreign people that originated in the desert

00:53:04.900 whereas any of the above festivals that we talked about that all the fun stuff is added because of

00:53:14.820 come from the same people in the same place back in the most ancient of antiquity

00:53:21.540 the fact that there would be nuanced difference and similarity in solstice festivals by tomato

00:53:30.820 europe and potato europe because they all go back to and i have no idea what you eat on like the

00:53:39.540 caucus steps so i couldn't go there with another uh another food item but uh but yeah they they

00:53:47.940 go back to assume to the same route and i understand the irony of using um american

00:53:53.460 because the potato and tomato come from the americans but uh probably horse stew

00:54:02.340 there you go horse and cattle so but yeah that is an important thing

00:54:09.140 to think about when you get too wrapped up in it 0.79

00:54:15.620 white people's ancestral faith goes back to one source

00:54:19.620 yes it is best to practice this consistently and cohesively within

00:54:30.580 culture within holistic cultural context but don't get too wrap wrapped up in

00:54:39.380 comparing and contrasting and trying to make needless divisions in

00:54:46.180 ancient white people celebrations of things there's celebrations that come about due to an event or

00:54:55.520 that are locked in history but celebrations that are specifically about the turning of the seasons

00:55:01.340 that are about the equinoxes and the solstices those predate that those go back to when our

00:55:09.300 gods created our folk and that is by any measure of logic a common root and a common time our gods

00:55:23.620 looked different than than they do in the viking tales of things but we don't neglect the truth

00:55:32.260 of that our gods are ancient they're as old as our folk and that predates the migrations of peoples

00:55:39.300 in particular regional expression another thing to think about if you want to talk about

00:55:45.140 standard saturnalia stuff i get what they're saying in concept and as far as a date and yes

00:55:53.440 that's the most like quickest available as far as the spread of the the plague that is christianity

00:56:00.060 into our folk but when you look at anything around this time of year christmas is all about

00:56:06.760 evergreens and wreaths and snow and people wearing fur-lined caps in the snow and pulling sleds by

00:56:15.800 their you know their reindeer and the imagery is clearly all northern european imagery um

00:56:24.360 yeah i remember to get outside the manger it's european imagery all that is i remember when i

00:56:31.160 was a little kid i saw the nativity scene and there was like a camel and i was like what

00:56:36.760 It threw me off when I was very little and came to the U.S.

00:56:41.000 and they would have these big nativity scenes out in front of these churches.

00:56:44.480 And I'm like, what's the camel doing? 1.00

00:56:47.500 And then there's like turban guys. 1.00

00:56:50.160 It was wild. 1.00

00:56:51.660 So I think that was the start of like something tickling, you know,

00:56:55.640 like letting me know like, you're kind of in the wrong. 0.99

00:56:58.980 You're in the synagogue of Yahweh over there and you need to get out. 1.00

00:57:06.760 so whatever was it worked right right so let's get back into the life and time of ale scally 0.98

00:57:15.800 okay so um ale is at aaron bjorn's hall during yuletide and um suddenly he comes over kind of a

00:57:28.360 bout of depression or or uh quietness and since this is you know again spanning over the winter

00:57:35.480 really but specifically around the yuletide suggesting that it's it's more than perhaps

00:57:41.240 just one or two days um so he's very very happy at one point and then he shifts immediately um

00:57:49.800 in 68 r and bjorn pays liot's holdings over to ale so ale after yuletide was taken with much

00:58:00.120 sadness that he spoke not a word and when arnbjorn perceived that he perceived this

00:58:08.040 he began to talk to ale and asked him what what the sadness was coming from i wish said he

00:58:15.880 you would let me know whether you are sick or anything ails you that i may find a remedy for

00:58:23.320 you and ale said no i have no sickness of the body but i have much anxiety about this

00:58:32.040 how shall i get that property which i won when i slew leot the pale northward in myra i'm told

00:58:42.360 that the king's stewards have taken up all that property and claimed ownership therefore for the

00:58:47.720 crown now i would feign have your help to recover this arnbjorn said i do not think your claim to

00:58:56.840 ownership of that property is against the law of the land yet he thinks that the property has now

00:59:03.640 come into strong keeping so you're you're certainly due right to it but the crown's got it now

00:59:10.440 so that's where the problem is um yet me thinks that the property is now coming to strong keeping

00:59:19.240 the king's treasury hath a wide entrance but a narrow exit i love that part right there um

00:59:27.400 we have urged many arduous claims of money against powerful persons but we were in more confidence

00:59:33.720 with the king than now for the friendship between me and king hakon is shallow yet must i act after

00:59:43.000 the old saw he must tend the oak who is to dwell beneath it i really like that that um

00:59:53.880 analogy and he and he's in essence he's saying like i don't want to test hack on um because we

01:00:03.160 have such a thin friendship we i had a a large one with with harold so and and anyone who lives

01:00:10.320 under an oak must take care of the tree lest get crushed by a branch um and so ale retorts he says

01:00:19.940 yet my mind is that if we have law to show, we should try. Maybe the king will grant us right

01:00:29.800 in this, for I am told that the king is just and keeps well to the laws which he has made here in

01:00:38.340 the land. I'm rather minded to go seek the king and try the matter with him. So at the time when,

01:00:46.300 know that the taking of land or the the uh combat against liot and the receiving of of his properties

01:00:54.220 or his you know at least his liquid wealth whether it's silver or cattle or what have you

01:01:02.220 um ale feels entitled to it and it's not against the law at this time so he's going to try to ply

01:01:08.220 on hakon's sense of maintaining law and utilizing that um and again this is another thing is ale

01:01:18.940 is not the type of person who will idly let things go by um yes this was a chance where

01:01:26.300 he could have lost his life he won um and according to the law but he's now pressing

01:01:31.100 it further he wants to build wealth for his family for his kin um and he is always going to pursue

01:01:40.540 that he's never going to be like well you know maybe i'll just leave it no he's going to get that

01:01:46.700 money um so arnbjorn said that he did not desire this i think ale that these things will be a hard

01:01:57.820 to reconcile your eagerness and your daring and the king's temper and power for i deem him to be

01:02:04.940 no friend of yours for sure and for good reason as he thinks i would rather that we let this matter

01:02:11.980 just drop did not and do not take it up but if you wish it ale i will rather myself go to the king

01:02:21.660 and moot with him and raised the question.

01:02:26.480 Eil said that he thanked him heartily and would choose it to be so.

01:02:32.300 Hakon was in Rogaland, but at times in Hordaland.

01:02:37.900 There was no difficulty in finding him, though,

01:02:40.600 and not long after this talk, Arnbjorn made ready for his journey.

01:02:45.960 It was then publicly known that he purposed to seek the king.

01:02:50.880 he manned with his house carls 20-ord galley ship that he had ale was to stay at his home

01:02:59.120 arnbjorn would not have him go arnbjorn started when ready and his journey went well he found the

01:03:06.480 king king hakon and he was well received and when he had been there for a little while he declared

01:03:13.760 his errand before the king and said that eil skallagrimson was had come there in the land

01:03:21.440 and thought that he had right and claimed to all the property that once belonged to lot the pale

01:03:28.880 we are told o king that ale pleads but law in this but your stewards have taken up the property

01:03:36.080 and claimed ownership for you.

01:03:38.980 I would pray you, my lord, that Eil may get what the law herein declares.

01:03:46.920 The king was slow to speak, but at length he did answer.

01:03:53.140 I know not, Arnbjorn, why thou comest with such pleading for Eil.

01:03:59.840 He came once before me, and I told him that I would not have him sojourn here in the land.

01:04:06.080 for reasons which ye already know. Now Eil must not set up such a claim before me as he did before

01:04:15.380 with my brother Eric. And to thee, Arnbjorn, I have this to say, that thou mayest be here in the land

01:04:24.340 only so long as thou preferest not foreigners before me and my word. For I know that thy heart

01:04:33.140 is with herald son of eric thy foster son and this is thy best choice to go to those brothers

01:04:41.580 and be with them for i strongly suspect that men like thee will be ill of trust

01:04:47.580 if i and eric's sons ever have to try conclusions so he's basically saying that

01:04:56.120 and I think this is built up before him just even talking about ale is that uh Arnbjorn is

01:05:04.380 has many loyalties outside of the fiefdom of the king and that means that when you have these oaths

01:05:13.320 when you have these loyalties outside it's going to make the king not really trust in in length

01:05:23.320 how long he can kind of rely on him and um so he you know and he even says you have these out 0.72

01:05:29.720 these foreigners ail is an icelander um and so he's kind of poking and gently

01:05:37.160 insulting arnbjorn just to let him know like where he stands and when the king had spoken so

01:05:46.120 arnbjorn saw that it would not not do well to plead this cause any further so he prepared to

01:05:53.480 return home the king was rather sullen and gloomy towards arnbjorn after he he knew his errand but

01:06:00.360 arnbjorn was not in the mood to humble himself before the king about this matter so they parted

01:06:06.920 arnbjorn went home and told ail of the issue of his errand i will not said he again plead such a

01:06:14.680 cause before the king at this report ale frowned much he thought he had lost much wealth and

01:06:24.040 wrongfully so a few days after early one morning when arnbjorn was in his chamber and few men were

01:06:31.720 present he had ale called thither to him and when he came then arnbjorn had a chest opened

01:06:41.640 it weighed with 40 marks of silver adding these words ale this money i pay to you

01:06:49.480 for those lands which belong to lot the pale i deem it just that you should just

01:06:55.880 have this reward from me and my kinsman fridger for saving his life from lot for i know

01:07:05.800 that you did this for the love of me and and your kinsmen and i therefore am bound not to

01:07:13.000 let you be cheated of what is lawfully right in this manner ale took the money and thanked

01:07:21.560 arnbjorn heartedly then ale again was quite cheerful so at this point too you see arnbjorn

01:07:30.600 paying ale it's it's it is about the money but he doesn't want to lose spot with the king but he

01:07:39.180 doesn't want to betray a friend so he just asks his friend let me pay it because we were still

01:07:46.680 intimately connected in the situation so forget the king um he's not going to do it and i don't

01:07:52.880 think we should poke that bear but i think you know we could view it as i owe you for helping

01:08:00.000 so he uh offers the money and ale takes it

01:08:05.640 so after this they go a viking they go out on expedition chapter 69 on my version

01:08:17.680 Arnbjorn and Eil go on Viking expedition. Arnbjorn stayed at home on his estate that winter but in

01:08:27.040 the next spring he let it be known that he meant to go out a Viking. Arnbjorn had good choice of

01:08:33.600 ships. He made ready in the spring three warships all of them large and he had 300 men. His house

01:08:41.860 carls he had on his own ship which was exceedingly equipped he had also with him many landowners sons

01:08:50.900 so now he's pulling the next generation of landowners are sending their young sons to go

01:08:56.580 with him and to learn and to be you know to have their experience on the on the waves and out in

01:09:02.500 the world um so ale settled to go with him he steered a ship and with him met many of his

01:09:14.100 comrades whom he brought from iceland but the merchant ship which he brought from iceland

01:09:21.460 he caused to be moved eastward to vic getting some men there to dispose of the cargo

01:09:26.980 So I'm going to go, but a couple of you got to take it there and kind of sell it all, sell all the cargo out and get it.

01:09:35.240 Just try to get some return for it.

01:09:37.860 But Arnbjorn and Eil with the warships held a southward course along the coast, then took their force still southwards to Soxland.

01:09:50.060 There they harried in the summer and got much wealth.

01:09:52.840 as autumn came on they came back northward harrying along the coast and lay off the coast

01:10:00.740 of Friesland which is the Netherlands the Dutch coasts one night when the weather was calm they

01:10:10.360 went up a large river mount where was a bad harborage and the ebb of the tide was great

01:10:17.140 There up on the land were wide flats with woods hard by. The fields were soaked because there had been much rain. They resolved to go up there and left behind a third of their force to guard the ships.

01:10:30.500 they followed up the river keeping between it and the woods and soon they came upon a hamlet

01:10:36.780 where dwelt several peasants the people ran out of the hamlet and into the fields such as could do so

01:10:44.820 when they perceived the threat of an enemy but the free brooders did pursue them then they came to a

01:10:52.000 second village and a third all of the people fled the land was level flat fields everywhere

01:10:58.420 intersected by dikes full of water so then again this is really truly showing that uh even the

01:11:05.460 tradition of holland and their um irrigation walls um was even fully set during this time um

01:11:19.940 by these the the corn lands and also another thing you remember corn is not referring to the america

01:11:27.380 grass, corn. Corn is wheat, barley, corn, any sort of grain. So when you see that in the old

01:11:36.500 saga, it's not actually like corn as we think of it here in America. By these corn lands or meadows

01:11:44.160 were enclosed. In some places, large stakes were set and over the dike where men should go,

01:11:51.100 were bridges and planks laid so that they could go over these large berms. The country folk fled

01:11:58.080 to the forest, but when the Freebooters had gone far into the settled parts, the Frigians had 0.98

01:12:03.120 finally gathered them in the woods, and when they had assembled 300 men, they went against the

01:12:08.580 Vikings and resolved to give them battle. There was then hard fighting, but the end was that the

01:12:15.920 Frisians would flee and the free booters pursued the fugitives. The peasants that escaped were 0.88

01:12:22.960 scattered far and wide and so were the pursuers and thus it happened that on either side few kept

01:12:28.860 together. So here we see just kind of the general way of things. A village would see a group of

01:12:37.940 uh vikings coming and they would gather everybody and immediately run and um a lot of the vikings 1.00

01:12:45.880 would pursue possibly for uh to gain slaves or um information uh or what have you so you see this

01:12:56.040 but then they gather in the woods and then they do a you know a return attack and um it did not

01:13:03.120 go well for them so uh ale was hotly pursuing a few with him after a numerous company had fled

01:13:14.200 the phrygians came to a dyke over which they went and then drew away the bridge so they went over 0.55

01:13:20.760 the berm and then they drew away the waves to like actually get across it without great effort 0.98

01:13:26.600 then came up ale and his men on the other side of the bank ale at once went at the dyke and 0.92

01:13:32.900 leapt it but it was no leap for other men and no one tried it but when the phrygians saw that one

01:13:40.260 man was following they turned back and attacked him so he he leaps up on the berm by himself

01:13:47.300 with a great feat of strength and the other guys can't quite do it so when he's just hot on the tail

01:13:55.380 they realize oh there's only one guy now all right and then turn around like okay we're gonna

01:14:00.260 we're gonna we're gonna change this oh they don't know what they're getting into um so

01:14:09.620 uh let's see uh but when the phrygians saw that there was one man following they turned back to

01:14:15.340 attack him but he defended himself well and he used the dike to cover his back so that they could

01:14:22.840 not attack him from all sides. Eleven men set upon him, but the end of their encounter was that

01:14:30.980 he slew them all. After that, Eol pushed out the bridge over the dike and crossed it back again. 0.88

01:14:38.860 He then saw that all of his men had turned back to the ships. He was then near the wood,

01:14:45.560 and he now went along the wood towards the ships so that he had a choice of the wood if he needed

01:14:52.740 for shelter the other vikings had brought down to the shore much booty and cattle and when they came

01:15:01.220 to the ships some slaughtered the cattle some carried out the plunder to the ships some stood 1.00

01:15:07.380 higher up and formed a shield a shield burr or shield wall for the phrygians were now coming

01:15:16.340 down in great forces and were shooting at them with arrows being also in a battle array and when

01:15:23.380 ale came down he saw how matter stood he ran at full speed right right at the throng his halberd

01:15:32.340 he held before him grasped in both hands and slung his shield around his back

01:15:39.220 he thrust forward his halberd and all before him started aside and so get he a passage right

01:15:47.700 through their ranks thus he dashed down to his fellow men who looked on him as he recovered from

01:15:54.740 as uh as he recovered from the dead so one thing that's worth noting is the halberd

01:16:01.060 most people think the halberd is a dane axe which can be used for thrusting or slashing

01:16:09.680 though there may have been other weapons like um like a cleaver or a bardiche kind of weapon

01:16:18.640 kind of a a long bladed axe head either way you know the fact that he's using this thing he has

01:16:29.160 a shield but he slings on his back and he goes full to town um and just cleaves through them

01:16:36.200 and they all thought he was dead he went over the berm and that was it but no he slew 11 men 0.53

01:16:43.320 and then came back and hit them from behind and like cut a swath through them so that he could

01:16:49.620 run back down to his to his men at the at the uh shoreline um and they were all like oh i thought

01:16:56.580 you were dead then they went on the shipboard and loosed from land they sailed then to denmark

01:17:04.260 and when they came to lima firth or lima fjord and lay at house arnbjorn held a meeting of his

01:17:12.020 men and laid before them his plans now will i said he go seek eric's son with such force as will

01:17:20.500 follow me i have now learned that the brothers are in denmark here and maintain a large following

01:17:27.380 and spend the summers also viking going a viking but for the winters they abide in denmark here

01:17:36.180 just north of us i am i now give leave to all to go to norway who would rather not do this

01:17:42.180 uh rather than follow me for you ale me thinks best counsel is that as soon as we part you

01:17:51.960 return to norway and then on with all speed back to iceland the men separated to several ships

01:17:59.740 and those who wish to go back to norway joined ale but by far the larger part of the force

01:18:06.360 remained with arnbjorn arnbjorn and eagle parted with great love and friendship

01:18:12.380 armbjorn went to seek eric's sons and joined the company of harold gray fell his foster son

01:18:19.660 and was with him henceforth so long as they both lived ale went northward to vic and also to oslo

01:18:28.380 oslo first there was his merchant ship which he had left which he had caused to be moved

01:18:35.900 thither in the spring and there was also his cargo and his men um

01:18:45.100 which had gone with the ship thorstein thora's son came to seek ale and asked him and such men

01:18:53.260 as he would bring to stay with him that winter ale accepted the offer and had his ship set up

01:18:59.740 with the cargo safely bestowed of his followers some got quarters there and some went to several

01:19:06.060 homes of people that they knew of in the north ale in company of 10 or 12 went to thorstein's

01:19:13.580 and remained there for the winter as greatly honored guests so it's it it is one heck of a

01:19:23.820 successful summer for ale not only does he get the money that he believes he's rightly deserves

01:19:30.040 but he gets he gets it from a friend who cares about him and then they go and just get so much

01:19:37.020 loot um going through you know like normandy and and the netherlands and in denmark so now he's in

01:19:46.460 Norway, and he's prepping to go to Iceland, but things change a bit. Chapter 70, Eil decides on

01:20:00.260 a journey to Vermaland. So King Harald Fairhair had subdued Vermaland in the east as far as Lake

01:20:10.280 So this brings us back to what I was reading earlier. Vermiland had been cleared and tilled by an apt-fitting named Olaf Tree Cutter, so he must have earned it by felling the land there.

01:20:24.120 father of Halfdane or Halfdan, Whitebone, who first of his family was the king in Norway.

01:20:33.460 And from him on his father's side, that is how King Harald descended. And all of his forefathers

01:20:40.120 had ruled over Vermiland and taken tribute therefrom and set men in charge over the land.

01:20:45.420 But when Harald had grown old, there was an earl there by the name of Arnvid, governor of Vermiland.

01:20:52.440 and it happened there as elsewhere that the tribute became worse paid now that Harold was

01:20:59.760 in the vigor of his life. So as he kind of moved his monarchy away, the tribute there was

01:21:08.620 less than, and this gives to suspicion to what happens. So now Hakon, who sat in peace,

01:21:19.180 then inquired that he, after all the empire that his father Harold had, King Hakon sent eastward

01:21:25.660 to Vermaland, a company of 12 men. They were to receive tribute from the earl there, and they were

01:21:32.880 to go, but as they were going back through Ithewood, brigands or robbers set upon them, and they ended

01:21:40.680 up slewing them all, and none of the tribute was received. The same hap befell yet another group

01:21:47.660 that king hakon sent eastward the men were slain and no money was brought back then was it said

01:21:55.260 by slum that perhaps earl arnviv be like to set his own men posing as brigands to kill the king's

01:22:05.100 men and take the tribute back so as to say i've sent it but you know these guys took it from you

01:22:14.060 when in reality he's pocketing it again whereupon king hakon sent yet a third company

01:22:23.020 he was then in throndheim the messengers were to go to vic and seek thorstein thora

01:22:30.220 thora's son with these words that he should go eastward to vermiland and gather in tribute for

01:22:36.940 the king or else he must leave the land so this is an ultimatum now kind of thrown on thorstein

01:22:44.060 um for the king had heard that arnbjorn thorstein's mother's brother was gone southward

01:22:55.060 into denmark and was with eric sons so he now knows arnbjorn's in the south hanging out with

01:23:01.520 eric's sons in denmark as was stated before so this falls on him now and he needs to go there

01:23:08.860 and gain tribute um king hackon mistrusted the loyalty of all his company expecting as he did

01:23:18.380 hostilities from eric's sons if they had but strength to raise a rebellion against him

01:23:25.100 and to arnbjorn's kinsmen and friends he showed a great dislike

01:23:30.060 putting some to death and driving some into outlawry or laying on them other hard conditions

01:23:41.100 and so it was that before thorstein the king put this choice

01:23:48.060 the man who bore the message was a man by the name of core he was a man of all lands

01:23:56.620 he had been long in denmark and in sweden and knew all about the ways of the men there so

01:24:03.020 cole might actually be a legitimate outlander like

01:24:09.900 from central europe eastern europe or even further still but had traveled the lands and spoken the

01:24:17.820 language. In Norway, too, he had traveled widely. And when he brought this proposal to Thorstein,

01:24:27.160 Thor's son, then Thorstein told Eil upon what errand these men came and asked how he should

01:24:33.840 answer them. So he seeks counsel from Eil. He said that it seemed it a hard thing for him to

01:24:39.400 lose his possessions and be driven out of the land. Eil said, it is to me quite clear what

01:24:47.060 this message means the king will have you out of the land like others of arnbjorn's kin

01:24:53.220 or i call sending a man of your nobleness on such errand ascending of certain death

01:25:01.160 my advice is that you call the king's messengers to conference with you

01:25:06.340 and i will be present at your talk and we will see what comes of it so now ale is kind of getting

01:25:13.600 involved in this uh thorstein did as he bade and he held conference with those messengers

01:25:21.280 they came in and told all the truth of their errand and of the king's message that thorstein

01:25:26.240 must go on this mission or else he will be outlawed ale said i see clearly about your errand

01:25:34.480 that if thorstein refuses to go then you will have to go and gather in tribute the messenger

01:25:41.520 said that he guessed rightly said ale thorstein shall not go on this journey for he is in no wise

01:25:50.960 bound thereto a man of his renown to go to such menial mission thorstein will do what where through

01:26:00.240 he is bound to wit attend the king within the land or without if the king demands it also if

01:26:08.720 If ye want to have some men from hence for this journey, this will be granted to you and all such furtherance of your journey as ye may name to Thorstein.

01:26:21.780 Then the messengers talked amongst themselves and agreed that they would accept these terms if Eil would go with them on the journey.

01:26:29.560 the king they said bears him great ill will and he will he will think our journey a right good one

01:26:37.720 if we bring it about that ale be slain he can then drive thorstein out of the land if he pleases

01:26:46.080 and so they told thorstein that they would be content if ale went with them and uh went and

01:26:52.900 stayed at at uh and thorstein stayed at home so that part there even though it's written kind of

01:26:58.440 strangely is basically the messengers conspire and they're like oh we can do this we'll we'll say

01:27:04.200 hey we'll go east and collect this tribute so thorstein doesn't have to but ale comes with us

01:27:10.980 we ambush him while we're out and then the king can get rid of thorstein because he doesn't have

01:27:16.020 you know a powerful um uh warrior who can drum up an army um so they're kind of

01:27:25.400 doing some machinations on their own for the benefit of hack on um and uh it's just so written

01:27:35.800 matter of factly but ale doesn't know this so ale says so shall it be i will release thorstein from

01:27:45.000 this journey but how many men think ye that you need to take hence well they looked about themselves

01:27:51.320 so we are eight they said we could feign to have four men go from hence then there there would be

01:27:58.040 12. ale said it should be so and aunund sioni remember the very large icelander who you know

01:28:08.200 people are questioning whether he's got troll blood in him or he's a a berserker and some of

01:28:14.200 ale's company that had gone out to sea to look after their ship and another cargo which they

01:28:20.200 had been given into safekeeping in the autumn they had not yet returned so ale thought it was

01:28:26.600 this was a great pity but the king's men were impatient to be gone and would not wait so he was

01:28:32.440 like i need to get some of my toughest guys to go perhaps he's even kind of snipping the possibility

01:28:39.720 of something and he doesn't have onund um so he now he's at a deficit um

01:28:52.280 so chapter 71 ale met our mode the farmer our mode is an interesting name uh year uh strength year

01:29:06.360 might um is it i guess yeah like seasonal or or really to our could mean like summer so his name

01:29:17.480 is in essence um summer might or summer uh vitality good and fruitful growing um ale with three

01:29:30.280 comrades made him ready for the journey they had horses and sleds and and so had the king's men

01:29:37.880 there was then deep snow and all the roads were effaced they betook them to their journey

01:29:45.080 when they were ready and sledged sledged sled up the land and when they came eastward near

01:29:53.080 either it happened one night that so much fresh snow fell upon them that they couldn't see their

01:29:59.240 way on the morrow they traveled slowly because there were snow drifts directly one left on the

01:30:05.880 track and as the day wore on they stopped to bait their horses and were near a wooded ridge

01:30:13.720 then spoke the king's men with ale here now the roads divide forward below the ridge dwells a

01:30:21.560 landowner named arnold our friend we with our party will go there and lodge there from the storm

01:30:29.240 but you shall go yonder up the ridge and when you come over it you will soon have before you

01:30:34.920 a very large house where you will have sure lodging there is a wealthy man that dwells there

01:30:41.000 and his name is our mouth beard by uh by name uh but tomorrow early we will again join company and

01:30:54.680 go on the next day to eitherwood there dwells a worthy land owner named thorvan so we're gonna go

01:31:02.760 and stay with you know a guy that we know you're gonna go up and over the drift with your guys and

01:31:10.360 stay with um armo upon this they agreed and separated ale and his men going up the ridge

01:31:21.000 but of the king's men this is to be told that no sooner were was ale out of sight of each other

01:31:27.720 they then took their snowshoes which they had brought with them put them on and then retraced

01:31:33.560 their way as fast as they could night and day they traveled and turned towards upland

01:31:40.040 thence north by dovra fell nor stayed they till they came before the king hack on and told him

01:31:47.400 of their journey and how it had sped so now they they cut off they've only got you know perhaps

01:31:54.520 two days to do this they break off to go talk to king hakon about how they have ale and just a few

01:32:01.560 of his men um kind of isolated ale and his comrades crossed the ridge that evening to be brief so

01:32:11.640 soon as they left the main road and got up on the ridge they found very deep snow steep rocks

01:32:17.960 and tangled copse woods now and again in the snow the horses so plunged and lay that they had

01:32:24.840 to be pulled up and out of the snow banks and over rocks and crags it was a very hard struggle

01:32:32.040 much ado had they with their horses but the walking for the men was of the heaviest and

01:32:37.720 sorely wearied them, where they then came off the ridge and saw before them the large house

01:32:44.520 for which they had made eagerly. And when they came to the enclosure, they saw men standing

01:32:51.520 about outside. Aramoth and some of his household, they exchanged words and asked each other of the

01:32:57.200 tidings. And when Aramoth knew that they were messengers of the king, he offered them lodging.

01:33:02.440 and this they accepted.

01:33:05.380 Outermouth's housecarls took their horses and harness,

01:33:09.180 but the master bade ale to go into the hall

01:33:11.960 and they did so.

01:33:13.380 So I think this is another good important thing to remember

01:33:16.220 is a lot of people have this idea

01:33:18.560 that our ancestors just accepted anyone off the road

01:33:23.300 and perhaps these conditions are,

01:33:26.840 they have certain prerequisites.

01:33:29.720 If it was somebody perhaps didn't know,

01:33:31.980 but that person said, oh, you know, I come from these people and this stock, and then they would

01:33:37.440 bring them in. But, you know, this clearly, Aeol is saying, oh, we're doing a mission for the king.

01:33:44.400 Brings them right in. So there are kind of just an onset. It's not like someone just shows up and

01:33:50.100 you let them in, even in the dead of winter. But again, traveling in this time was usually done

01:33:57.800 with a purpose. So most everybody that ever showed up on your door had a reason.

01:34:05.100 And Armoth made Eil sit in the high seat on the lower bench. So the guest bench across from him,

01:34:13.700 there was the high seat and he made Eil sit there and his comrades outside of him. They spoke much

01:34:21.580 of what toilsome way they had that evening, but the house curls thought it a great marvel that

01:34:26.660 had won through it at all it was they said no road from for any man even when it's free of snow

01:34:34.580 it was intraversible or untraversable excuse me and um they were amazed by this and then said armo

01:34:43.860 thinking not this where the best hospitality that a table should be set for you and supper

01:34:49.620 given to you now and then you should sleep this will be the best rest for you

01:34:56.660 We should like this right and well, said Eil.

01:34:59.540 So he's receiving a great hospitality from Armodh, who's a gracious host.

01:35:07.980 So Armodh had a table set for them whereon they placed large bowls of curd.

01:35:13.280 Then they said Armodh that he was sorry he had no beer to give them.

01:35:19.080 Eil and his men were very thirsty from the weariness,

01:35:21.980 and they took up the bowls and drank the curds eagerly,

01:35:24.540 ale drinking far the most no other food was brought so

01:35:30.020 this kind of reminds me of of of the halamal um to where they're you know with half a loaf of

01:35:39.120 bread and half a horn of mead you can win a friend um you know the the eagerness of this 0.58

01:35:46.760 moment and the other thing that's worth noting is beer was safe to drink uh i'm not saying that

01:35:53.540 didn't keep safe water but water could still go bad even after keep so casking beer and casking

01:36:01.620 cider um was a great way to ensure that everyone you know had safe drinking

01:36:09.540 fluids and uh bear in mind too that most of the beer at the time uh was about a at a percentage

01:36:16.580 of about 2.5 percent alcohol a budweiser now is what 4.5 so they didn't have really really heavy

01:36:25.460 alcohol and so massive consumption could be done and these were considered more like session beers

01:36:31.940 that people just drank and even the children drank um and to this ale recites a verse

01:36:42.340 to thee with this message my mother doth send me to bear word that ale be weary and wait

01:36:52.020 so temper thy stomach thus saith our lady with fair far more worthy soon feed we our guests

01:37:02.120 oh sorry excuse me this was not ale this was the young girl at the hall

01:37:09.420 who comes out and recites this verse um the mistress called to her side i i just kind of

01:37:20.320 like jumped sorry the household was numerous the mistress sat on a cross bench beside her and the

01:37:27.460 other women the master's daughter 10 or 11 years old was running about the hall floor

01:37:32.940 the mistress called her to her side and spoke in her ear and then the girl went out to where

01:37:39.020 ale sat and recited this verse to thee with this message my mother doth send me to bear word that

01:37:46.900 ale be weary and wait so temper thy stomach thus saith our lady with fair far more worthy soon

01:37:55.840 feed. We are guests. So now we have the lady of the hall sending message through her daughter

01:38:03.400 in verse to Ale, which would clearly kind of cut through the din. But Armouth struck the girl and 0.94

01:38:15.740 bade her hold her tongue. You are always, he said, saying what least suits. The girl went away,

01:38:21.960 but ale threw down the curd bowl which was now nearly empty the bowls were then removed from

01:38:27.560 them now the household took their seats and tables were set all around the hall and food was served

01:38:34.280 there was dishes of meat that were brought and then set before ale and the rest after his ale was

01:38:40.280 born him beer of the strongest and soon they began to drink bumpers uh each man was to drink off the

01:38:49.080 horn and a special care was taken that ale and his companions should drink hard so the food is coming

01:38:58.920 but you should temper your stomach was kind of the message given to him uh but ale drinks without

01:39:07.400 shirking a drop and for a long while but when his companions had become helpless in their drink

01:39:14.760 then he drank for them what they could not so matters went on until the tables were removed

01:39:23.000 and by then all in the room were very well drunk but before each cup that he drank armoth said i

01:39:31.560 drink to you ale and the house carls drank to ale's companions with the same preface

01:39:37.480 a man was appointed to bear every cup to ale's party and he urged them to drink it off quickly

01:39:45.080 ale told his companions drink no more but he himself drank for them what they could not avoid

01:39:54.280 and what that means i think too is now ale knows that kind of something is brewing um and to not

01:40:04.400 be considered ill guests of you know cracking open this this beer and having it out so ale's

01:40:12.240 gonna make it and ale soon found that it would not do for him to go on so so now he's he's starting

01:40:18.960 to get to his limit wherefore he stood and went across the floor to where armode sat

01:40:24.400 took him with his hands by the shoulders and forced him back against one of the inner posts

01:40:29.600 of the hall and spit in his face wherefore he stood up walked across the uh uh sorry uh yes

01:40:38.640 wherefore he stood up walked across the floor to armoth put both hands on his shoulders and pressed

01:40:43.520 him up against the pilder and then heaved up a great vomit of massive proportions that gushed

01:40:50.000 all over armoth's face and into his eyes nostrils and mouth it's so detailed

01:40:59.360 and i know you bring this up sometimes uh when we're talking

01:41:03.040 how's your go that you like this is a visceral uh imagery and it's because yeah there's there's

01:41:10.160 something a brewing and and ale knows and he receives it from the maiden of the house um

01:41:17.120 I don't know if Armagh knew or knows of the entirety of the situation with the king's men and what have you, but as kind of a, I know what's going on, I now know that something's afoot.

01:41:35.400 he drinks drinks heavy heavy heavy and then returns it back so i know i spoke about how

01:41:43.740 you know the small amount can gain friendship it's that when the heavy gifting then comes out

01:41:50.280 it seems rather uh odd you know after saying i don't have any beer this is all i've got

01:41:58.980 and then the girl comes out and kind of like says no we got a lot of food and we got a lot of things

01:42:03.460 but you should still temper your stomach and then uh armo that are um yeah armo is like

01:42:10.420 okay no drink drink drink drink so uh ale gives it back

01:42:17.460 um it flooded down his chest so that he was almost suffocated and when he recovered his

01:42:26.360 breath he spewed up and all of his servants there began to swear at ale what he'd just done they

01:42:33.500 said made him the lowest of the low and if he wanted to vomit he should have gone outside

01:42:39.520 not made a fool of himself inside the drinking hall i shouldn't be blamed by anyone for this 0.96

01:42:47.600 said ale i'm only doing the same as this farmer he's spewing with all his might 0.69

01:42:53.720 just like me then ale went back to his seat sat down and asked for another drink and after he

01:43:02.800 recited this verse at the top of his voice with my spew i swear thanks for your sociability

01:43:09.340 we have witnesses that i could walk the floor many a guest's gifts is even more gushing now

01:43:18.080 the ale has all ended up all over armo now when a poet recites a verse that's been

01:43:30.560 uh you know worked in a particular style um this was kind of like uh this could be memorized this

01:43:40.160 could be spread. So Armoth jumps up to his feet and ran out, but Ale asked for something more to

01:43:47.900 drink. Then the housewife told the man who had been serving all evening to carry on as long as

01:43:55.540 they wanted to drink and make sure that they had enough. The man took a great ox horn and filled it

01:44:02.020 and gave it to ale who swilled it down in one draught and said let's swallow each swig this

01:44:09.700 sailor keeps serving the bard is kept busy with barely a break not a lick shall i leave

01:44:17.220 of this malted liquor though the fellow keep filling fresh horns till daybreak

01:44:23.860 and ale kept drinking for some time tossing down each horn he was given but there was little fun

01:44:29.940 to be had in this room as not many were still drinking then ale and his men stood up and took

01:44:35.700 their weapons from the wall where they had them hung and they they went to the granary in which

01:44:40.900 the horses were and laid themselves down in the straw and slept through the night so this is

01:44:47.300 really about um and i because bear in mind too i'm like i haven't read this in a long long time so

01:44:56.260 so in this case there is no conspiracy on our army others our mother's part but that instead he was

01:45:05.260 miserly at first and then ails like okay well if you're gonna hold out I'm gonna you know that he

01:45:13.060 finds out they they are holding out then he's gonna tap him and kind of punish him for his

01:45:19.420 miserliness. Um, while at the same time, just like, again, this really shows Ailes kind of

01:45:26.540 furiousness, his ability to just ramp up into, you know, you wrong him and he will

01:45:35.020 take it straight away to, you know, 10. Um, even if, you know, you think you're hitting him with

01:45:44.080 a three he's gonna he's gonna ramp it up and ramp it up fast um and this is kind of just again

01:45:50.960 shows his kind of erratic and and very furious nature um

01:46:00.720 so in 72 ale came to thorvind the bond

01:46:06.080 uh ale rose up in the morning as soon as it was day he and his he and his men made themselves ready

01:46:14.080 And Reddy went as once the house to seek Armoth.

01:46:18.440 And when they came to the apartments where slept Armoth and his wife and daughter,

01:46:22.360 then Eil burst open the door and approached his bed.

01:46:25.920 He then drew his sword.

01:46:27.840 But with the other hand, he grasped the beard of Armoth and forced him forward to the edge of the bed.

01:46:34.240 But Armoth's wife and daughter leapt up and prayed Eil not slay Armoth.

01:46:39.020 Eil said he would spare him for their sakes.

01:46:42.180 for he said this is but meat yet has he deserved to die he then spoke a verse the gold bangled 0.70

01:46:54.140 blabbermouth gets this plea benefit he may stir up strife but he doesn't scare me you perhaps

01:47:01.600 hope the poet would praise your you more highly well it's time to trudge off and take to our

01:47:08.420 travels so again his withholding of food and his withholding of of the beer that he actually had

01:47:17.460 was what really kind of set this in motion um at this ale then took his sword and

01:47:26.180 cut off his beard close to his chin and gouged him in the eye with a finger

01:47:32.580 so that it hung out over his cheek oh and then he went out to his companions

01:47:40.420 so this is a particularly descriptive set of chapters here uh gothi bode is trying to find

01:47:47.140 where we're at so and we were all doing good until at least i took over last week but somewhere in

01:47:57.940 there something got i don't know mismatched as far as how these things are being labeled by

01:48:07.620 translators um so we're breaking at chapters so i don't know the chapter breaks are right

01:48:16.340 now or they're matching up between spawn and myself uh the translation i'm looking at on the map

01:48:23.540 says this we're middle of 73 swan what is your 72 swans on 72 but he and i are synced up

01:48:35.300 so they're bouts

01:48:39.220 but it was one of the most memorable moments of uh of this saga was the

01:48:49.620 the great vomit episode

01:48:52.580 And I, you know, I think that people might look at this and they don't understand that Eyal is, you know, in many ways, he's kind of an embodiment of fury.

01:49:08.680 um and he's known as such he's seen as such and he can very swiftly perceive a wrong against him

01:49:19.620 and meet out you know terrible you know sense of it so armoth was withholding beer and meat

01:49:29.580 and simply giving them you know curd and whey um to drink and when it was revealed to him that

01:49:39.600 that wasn't the case um he took that slight really really hard so then armo brings out the beer so

01:49:49.180 now it's like even worse because now it's like okay i do have all this stuff here it is and it

01:49:54.100 just gets worse and worse and worse and so hospitality folks yeah just just be hospitable

01:50:02.260 from the front don't don't withhold and be miserly and i think that's really what sets ale off is his

01:50:09.380 miserliness and the thought that he could kind of like pull one over on him yeah if you got a bunch

01:50:14.720 of like high quality beer sitting somewhere and good food don't don't get the folks started on

01:50:22.160 bud light and hot dogs um or else really gross things might happen yeah and and his actions i

01:50:32.000 think even too from from the audience reading this which of course it was written far later

01:50:38.240 but was probably spoken of relatively after it was again more of a testament that ale is just

01:50:45.360 you you shouldn't test him that's like i think this would be seen shockingly so

01:50:52.480 even amongst our ancestors that he just like flies off the handle is a hero he is a

01:51:03.680 amazing warrior he is a brilliant scald he is

01:51:14.640 There are lots of really positive things about his character, but he's not an easy man to get along with.

01:51:24.700 Like we see him in a number of cases treat people very fairly and very, you know, extend kindnesses where they're warranted.

01:51:35.480 but he's not one to unnecessarily stick to social convention and niceties

01:51:44.660 um if there's anything that he feels like he's owed he's gonna cleave someone in twain for it

01:51:52.720 if it's not forthcoming and he's not one to suffer you know dishonesty towards him

01:52:00.760 um and this is kind of an interesting thing about his character because I think we get 0.95

01:52:09.280 and there's stuff he does that's kind of a jerk especially when he's younger that 0.87

01:52:14.320 you know there's not a lot of excuse for um but 0.99

01:52:23.560 there is a common parlance now of oh he's a good guy you know

01:52:30.760 You know, this guy's, you know, he's not much of this, or he's not much of that, or he's, you know, whatever, but he's a good guy.

01:52:38.800 We throw around the term good far too loosely.

01:52:44.360 This was a much more honest time.

01:52:49.240 And it's been said a lot recently, but I think it needs to be said as many times as people need to hear it. 0.82

01:53:00.760 being nice and being courteous and and saying nice things and you know not being a jerk to

01:53:14.180 be around those are really good things those are those are nice things we like those things

01:53:19.440 but why are why are those things occurring i mentioned earlier how ale he's a hard man to

01:53:27.000 along with but he can be fair he's extremely loyal he's capable of kindness but when you get

01:53:35.640 kindness from a man like gago it it's meaningful because he doesn't he doesn't need to be kind to

01:53:44.200 you he can destroy you with taking a swing of something he can hold you down and fill your

01:53:51.960 orifices with puke he can do a lot of things to you i'm not any more graphic than the material 0.98

01:53:58.760 we're going over right he

01:54:07.560 there's a value you place on people and in this day and age i think we all know people like this

01:54:12.600 um yeah some people i went to school with uh you know guys kind of

01:54:23.080 he's nice it's always nice he's self-deprecating he laughs himself

01:54:29.560 he okay to be around you don't gotta worry about him

01:54:35.480 that doesn't make someone a valuable a worthy or a good man

01:54:42.600 And I think that we need to not mistake neutral or non-offending with being good.

01:54:53.020 A.L. is super offensive.

01:54:56.140 But I think most people would choose, you know, he's not the last guy getting picked for, you know, for dodgeball.

01:55:03.860 There's a reason for that.

01:55:05.440 He has lots of prowess.

01:55:07.240 He has a firm sense of justice.

01:55:09.160 um and this goes to a bigger concept that i think it's worth kind of highlighting here and it may

01:55:15.000 seem like an awkward place to put this but just because somebody's grumpy and difficult to be

01:55:20.700 around it depends on what the value is if your value is you were on some kind of a diplomatic

01:55:25.620 errand to a king's court then maybe this isn't the guy you want with you um if you're going into the

01:55:33.260 back to battle he absolutely is there's a situational value there's kind of an overall

01:55:42.280 judging of someone's character and there is worth that's that extends far outside of

01:55:53.260 you know uh i could bring him along and he's not going to make my friends upset

01:55:58.060 there is people who are of firm conviction people who know that you are going to get

01:56:04.820 100 honesty from them if you ask them a question there's people who may not even like you but you

01:56:13.620 respect them and if they give you their word you know they will follow through on their word

01:56:18.940 there's a lot of things in life to value a man on and his

01:56:23.700 you know smiling at the right social occasion and whatever is is a very small part of that

01:56:33.960 equation and i bring it up to to talk about a couple of different things

01:56:38.040 worth and the assigning of worth or as the ancestors would call it worship

01:56:46.680 matters i think that people

01:56:50.640 only see the word worship in terms of like prostrated obeisance to a deity

01:57:02.640 and that is a form of worship certainly but the word phonetically and you see it used in a more

01:57:10.140 archaic time outside of that so okay in for instance in high medieval literature

01:57:18.380 that's firmly into the christian period yes our people would worship yahweh or they would worship

01:57:26.460 christ or mary or the saints but you also hear about knights going to tournaments to win worship

01:57:33.740 worship is the praise of

01:57:37.320 of excellent fame and it means applying worth to or recognizing and acknowledging the worth

01:57:46.820 of so you would you know seek ale would seek to win worship by his poetry

01:57:53.360 or he would seek to win worship by his feats of arms that's all a valid use of the word

01:58:02.100 So people get queasy when some people who have negative attachments to previous religious experience aren't necessarily comfortable with the word worship.

01:58:15.140 Worship doesn't mean to make yourself less, but it means to acknowledge and to bestow worth upon something that you place great value in.

01:58:29.680 Certainly we put maximum value in the Iser, and they're absolutely worthy of our worship.

01:58:38.960 So are our heroes.

01:58:41.440 So are great leaders.

01:58:43.560 So are people of great merit.

01:58:45.900 The idea of worship conjuring you making yourself worthless in front of, that's an Eastern concept.

01:58:56.820 That's not a concept native to our folk and our faith.

01:59:02.540 So, you know, bowing before and acknowledging something's greatness isn't a slap at yourself.

01:59:11.640 It is a recognizing a value position.

01:59:16.360 and those value positions are fundamental to any layer of our ancestors

01:59:24.060 social standing hierarchy things of that nature and you see it look really different in different

01:59:31.920 times but to show worship to a god doesn't make you less it elevates you in doing something noble

01:59:39.880 and being someone of discernment that can rightly know where to place worth in knowing your place

01:59:48.200 is recognizing your worth relative to those around you and it's also interesting as

01:59:56.120 you know seemingly arrogant sometimes as ale seems

02:00:02.020 he knows his place in the right spots like

02:00:08.020 he will do violence on his dad's servants so as not to do violence on his dad because he

02:00:17.800 recognizes that's his father and he needs to behave a certain way he needs to behave a certain

02:00:24.500 way in in dealing with his brother he needs to behave a certain way when he's in the court of a

02:00:30.200 king that he is completely and totally at that king's mercy he knows how to act right when it's

02:00:37.320 necessary but he's honest in that he doesn't give false bravado to stuff and this is something else

02:00:46.620 i've i've mentioned before too it's a theme that comes up here and uh this

02:00:54.380 i think it's worth stating here i hope it makes sense in the context we're going i'm

02:01:02.220 going a little bit free form tonight but

02:01:04.240 and also true and i've mentioned this a bajillion times but because we're on um

02:01:13.940 victory never sleeps and some people tune in sporadically and maybe some people's first time

02:01:18.800 it's wrongheaded and a number of us went through this when we first became also true and largely

02:01:28.420 modern also true in the early stages had to go through a period of this but also true is not a

02:01:34.320 lack of christianity it's not a the flip side of christianity it's completely and totally

02:01:41.520 unconnected and it's its own thing and stands on its own merits that said there's a current

02:01:48.800 and also true to try to juxtapose what we do to what other faiths speak

02:01:57.440 so if christians forgive all of the time because you're just supposed to forgive

02:02:01.920 anyone who ever does anything wrong to you ever then an outsider we can never ever forgive we

02:02:08.800 need to hold on to every tiny grudge and that's that's false a false dichotomy

02:02:17.680 in also true you can absolutely choose to forgive things you can choose to give people a pass

02:02:27.520 but you're not obliged to there's nothing sinful or wrong for you demanding what is owed you

02:02:36.880 and ale is not one to grant people a whole lot of slack that's his right as an aryan man

02:02:47.040 in an ounce of true society to fight for every last inch of what's his

02:02:53.540 your ability your empowerment as a man to

02:02:59.000 enforce things even up to things that might seem petty if they're owed to you or to choose

02:03:10.820 with your own choosing to grant someone a kindness or grant someone a favor

02:03:16.640 that speaks to your inherent nobility and character as one who gets to choose and I think

02:03:25.460 that in and of itself is a really important lesson for our time in both directions if you're just a 0.99

02:03:32.660 jerk all the time and you begrudge everyone everything even kids even people you know i've 0.99

02:03:39.940 seen that i've seen people who are in their 50s get to drinking with some kid that's 20 and he 0.99

02:03:45.140 says something stupid and the guy wants to hold him to it for eternity you can if you want to 0.88

02:03:52.260 there's grown man versus grown man you absolutely can but there's also a merit in 0.99

02:04:00.840 giving someone a pass letting something slide using something as a learning opportunity

02:04:06.880 your ability to make those choices is an inherent part of your nobility your nobility as an Aryan 0.71

02:04:13.960 man or woman and that inner nobility is fundamental to the practice of Al-Satru and

02:04:20.200 understanding the fundamentals of house of truth the way i see it

02:04:32.040 oh um while we have it here ethan joined us uh returning member so glad that he came back home

02:04:39.560 let's let's i i'll welcome you back as many times as i need to but i hope i don't ever have to again

02:04:52.840 um we're glad that you are with us we're glad you're home and i'm glad you're joining us tonight

02:04:57.880 um and freya fox on the side mentioned that she had her son's baby naming ceremony at

02:05:05.080 Baldrhoff Baldrhoff this past Saturday I am glad that you made it out there I'm glad that you

02:05:12.680 had that uh that ritual performed in Baldrhoff before our folk uh Witten Fassett mentioned that

02:05:19.960 to me when we were talking about it over this weekend and congratulations to you and your family

02:05:24.760 and specifically to your son

02:05:26.600 it's always special to to tie that last uh thread of the assavatni at a hof which you know for

02:05:39.640 folks that have been out for a very long time that's that was not a thing to be able to go

02:05:45.640 to a hof and have an assavatni like uh ceremony done so that's amazing and it's just it's great

02:05:53.080 to just see it in the uh comments when i saw it i was like wow this is we have come a long way

02:06:01.560 yes we have all right guys not to further distract let's uh let's take us back to ale

02:06:10.840 yeah keep keep on going so uh there's another interesting thing here uh about um an aspect

02:06:19.000 and i don't know if some folks know about it but it's like a little tidbit of information that kind

02:06:23.560 of gleans itself here so this was done in the morning early early morning which again beast

02:06:31.000 mode in the sense that he's you know cracking horns down um and then immediately at daybreak

02:06:39.720 wakes up goes in and says you know you're not gonna do this and then pulls kind of a and i've

02:06:46.840 never seen the show but i've seen enough um like short clips on youtube where this is a very game

02:06:54.520 of thrones kind of moment um so you know just brutal and then he turns and he leaves um

02:07:06.520 so uh then he went out to his companions

02:07:11.640 they went on their way and came a day meal time to the house of thorfinn so that part there day meal

02:07:20.500 um the uh dagverda mauli is like they're they generally ate twice a day they would

02:07:31.340 not usually eat right away in the morning that was not a common practice but that by noon to like

02:07:36.960 one there was a day meal and then they would go back to work or do whatever and then they would

02:07:43.260 have a night meal so um that's just a little interesting bit of information about how we

02:07:49.380 we kind of know that our ancestors held a two meal day and that that the uh the breaking of

02:07:56.960 a fast went their fasting went even further than i think you know is generally done um

02:08:03.380 just on a on a regular so this is basically letting the audience know by like midday they

02:08:08.500 come to thorfinn he dwelt in eitherwood of him they craved a day meal and they fed their horses

02:08:16.040 thorfinn granted this and ale and his men went into the hall ale asked if thorfinn had seen

02:08:21.700 anything the rest of his party we appointed he said to meet here and thorfinn said here past

02:08:29.900 six men together a little before a day and they were all very well armed then said the house carl

02:08:37.900 i was driving a sleigh into the night to fetch wood and i came upon six men upon the road

02:08:44.460 they were house carls of armouth but that was long before day now i am not sure whether this

02:08:52.140 will be the same as the six men whom you spoke of thorvan said that the six men whom he had met

02:08:59.740 and passed after the house carl came back with the load of wood while they sat at at meal it

02:09:07.660 says here too in the translation i got sat at meat because remember too the the usage of the word

02:09:13.580 meat um didn't mean flesh of an animal it meant like the entirety of a dinner um in older usage

02:09:21.900 um ale saw that a woman lay sick on the uh let's see this is an interesting word at the dais

02:09:33.340 at the end of the hall so the the upper part where the bedding kind of would be placed um

02:09:39.740 she was at the end of the hall and he asked who that woman was and why she was in such a sad case

02:09:46.620 thorfinn said that her name was helga and it was his daughter she had long been ill her complaint

02:09:53.820 was a pining sickness so she got no sleep at night and was as one possessed

02:10:01.740 has anything ale asked been tried against this ailment and he spoke runes have been cut or graven

02:10:11.980 as thorfinn said a landowner's son hard by did this and she has since since been much worse than

02:10:22.260 before can you do anything about such ailments ale ale said maybe no harm will be done by me

02:10:30.340 taking it into my hands so at this ale had finished his meal and he went there to where

02:10:36.400 woman had laid and he spoke with her then he bade that uh bade them lift her from her place

02:10:43.840 and laid clean linens down on under her and they did so next he searched the bed

02:10:51.280 in which she had lain and the reason why he's doing this is because runic magic talismanic

02:10:58.320 runic magic works in proximity oftentimes the best and so there he found what he was looking for

02:11:05.920 a piece of whalebone whereupon runes had been carved ale then began to read them

02:11:13.440 he's cut the runes off and scraped them into the fire and he burned the whole piece of the whale

02:11:20.480 bone and then had the bedclothes that she had used hung out to air then ale said runes none

02:11:29.440 should grave ever who knows not to read them of dark spell full many the meaning may miss 0.77

02:11:39.120 ten spell words writ wrongly on the whale bone were graven whence the leak tending maiden long

02:11:47.360 sorrow and pain so he's basically stating that there is a definitive sense of runic right and

02:11:55.120 wrong it's not a relative thing and that there's this formulaic sense that is laid out with purpose

02:12:04.240 and when it's not done on that purpose and it's done it's brought to almost its full fruition

02:12:09.760 but is wrong it can bring more harm than good and he carves the runes off into the fire

02:12:17.200 and he also mentions here too whence the leak tending maiden that's another thing worth

02:12:22.880 remembering the leak uh any sort this is even amongst the eastern germanics any sort of

02:12:30.000 hospital or i should say healing um craft um was always associated towards the leak the actual

02:12:41.200 onion um but in reality with that what we're talking about is the um medicine crafts and the

02:12:49.120 leek was a part of it soups and and broths and and uh herbs of of of good ailment garlic

02:12:56.560 and regular leak and why leeches are called leeches because again leak craft and this all

02:13:03.200 boils down to the body the the body is the leak so um you know there these kind of hints clue us

02:13:12.720 towards our like ancient um you know medicinal practices um your thing about me because it's

02:13:24.000 interesting the journey it goes through looking back at the root of meat

02:13:33.680 it's funny because before our current use of like animal flesh meaning meat

02:13:39.520 it had you know rightly just meant food but before that it goes back to a proto-indo-european

02:13:50.520 arian word that meant to ooze or drip with grease and fat

02:13:56.240 it's neither here nor there i just ran down the etymology because i was curious

02:14:03.480 well i mean that would naturally lend it towards the actual flesh of the animal but

02:14:08.000 yeah people that speak german or know that like in german that the word fleisch and flesh is

02:14:13.980 mainstay and like meat kind of meant the whole of the meal uh perhaps i think i think

02:14:22.560 with the dietary anthropology of our people it's interesting in a time where most or a larger part

02:14:31.760 of the diet was the flesh of animals then we went to a spot where there was quite a bit of

02:14:39.360 grain and other things in the diet and then it getting sorted out later when we again

02:14:46.460 meat was much more common for all classes of society the closer to modern times we get and

02:14:54.260 it goes back to a meaning of you know implying flesh is just kind of an interesting etymological

02:15:00.140 journey on the word yeah he uh i think this is also really interesting because he just casually

02:15:09.720 does this and even in the um the verse that he speaks when he says uh scallop mother runa rister

02:15:18.560 name rauda velkun the runa rister i know that anybody who's interested in runes knows

02:15:26.380 particularly those two words together the the wrister the carving or the writing of as it

02:15:33.440 the word writing is kind of that shares the same origin um you know he just simply states that if

02:15:43.320 you if you think you know the runes and you you know how to sacrifice them you know how to to call

02:15:48.900 forth them you know how to shape them and to play you know press them and and play them in an area

02:15:55.640 and you do it wrong you're going to cause issues so then just happenstance he carves them off

02:16:02.580 and then sings a verse and then he says it says here that ale carved the runes and laid them

02:16:10.640 under the bolster of the of the bed where the woman lay and it seemed as if she had suddenly

02:16:15.780 woken from a sleep and now felt well but was still weak but her father and mother were overjoyed and

02:16:22.520 thorfinn offered to ale all the furtherances that he might think needful so we go from this brutal

02:16:30.760 like retribution of you you you know shorting me to going to the next house and he's just eating

02:16:38.680 and he's like what's wrong with her and then it's like oh i know what the problem is it's bad runes

02:16:43.720 and he cars the runes and and then he heals her and and thorfinn's like oh this is amazing like

02:16:50.040 you're the best so night and day and i think that encapsulates ale's overall sense that he is one

02:17:00.120 minute beneficial and the next minute furious and i think that lends to the greater understanding of

02:17:06.280 lord olden lord olden is the the giver and the taker and both being aggressive giving aggressively

02:17:15.640 and taking aggressively so in chapter 73 for me ale comes to alvar the bond and and this too the

02:17:38.360 bonding bond could i i can't remember because again i haven't read this i don't know if he was

02:17:44.280 a freed slave or if he was bound by some sort of oath or a person who keeps his oaths but the word

02:17:51.980 bond meaning united or connected um in his name and also to here we see the use of the the word

02:18:00.720 alver to mean a name um and oftentimes it was not that our ancestors named their children

02:18:08.540 after the gods they would always add something like uh like fray dis or thor steam or thor

02:18:18.140 ulf or what have you but alvar seems to be one that could stand alone and again alf doesn't

02:18:25.160 it means a being that is synthesized with whatever is in front of it a leo self is a being

02:18:32.340 that is synthesized with light dock elf synthesized with the mortal coil

02:18:38.260 smart elf synthesized with the properties of the earth and the material um this it always kind of

02:18:45.740 just stands to mean a being um or a uh you know again a powerful presence um

02:18:55.300 so in chapter 73 ale said to his comrades that he would go on his way and abide no longer

02:19:03.540 thorvan had a son named helgi a valiant man father and son offered ale their company

02:19:11.140 throughout the woods so throughout their lands they're gonna they're going to go with them

02:19:16.340 guide them uh and they said that they knew for a fact that armo beard had put six men in the wood

02:19:22.980 to lie and wait for him so armoth is not taking that slight at all and so he sets six men to trail

02:19:30.900 after um ale knowing that he's going to stop somewhere and when he comes out

02:19:37.220 they're going to ambush him and get revenge upon ale um so and it was likely that there would be

02:19:46.900 more ambushed in the wood in case the first should fail so there might be more than just the six

02:19:52.980 There were, with Thorfinn, four that offered to go, and then Eil sang a stave.

02:19:59.860 So it's worth noting, too, like, they know that there's going to be some trouble,

02:20:04.520 and Thorfinn and his son and four other men are like, you know, I'll go.

02:20:12.120 Bearing in mind, this could be their end.

02:20:15.060 You know, it might fare well for Thorfinn or for Eil, but it might not fare well for them.

02:20:19.740 but they're still going to go because this is a matter of honor amongst the the owner of the hall

02:20:26.780 and um again they just don't shirk away from the possibilities um

02:20:35.260 and ale says if four with me follow thou findest not six men with us bloody sword blows to barter

02:20:43.660 and fight and if we ate go undaunted in courage on 12 black browed ale the battle will bear

02:20:54.380 so again he's and he's referring to himself as the dark brow or the the like sverder the the

02:21:05.100 the gloomy dark browed um self and he's referring to himself and he says that um

02:21:13.020 that he will be able to take many on his own um thorfinn's men decided to go into the wood with

02:21:21.180 ale and thus they were eight in all and when they came where the ambush was set they saw the men

02:21:27.260 there but these house carls of armod who were in ambush on seeing the travelers were eight in number

02:21:35.820 thought that they were overmatched and hid themselves away in the wood and when ale's

02:21:40.380 party came to where the liars in wait had been they saw that all was not peaceful and now ale

02:21:47.180 said that thorfinn and his men should go back but they offered to go further however ale would not

02:21:52.700 have it and bade them go home so they did so and turned back but ale and his men went forward

02:22:00.220 being now just four and as the day wore on they perceived that there were six men in the wood

02:22:06.140 and they were pretty sure that they were also the house carls of armo up let the liars and

02:22:12.620 wait and made at them so ale knows with the amount of men that he has right now of eight

02:22:19.820 they're not going to fight so instead of like pursuing with the with the amount he's like no

02:22:26.700 you guys go home these guys aren't going to do anything and what he's really thinking is i'm

02:22:31.900 going to cut down my numbers so that they're they're tempted to finish their job so he he

02:22:39.420 knows it's coming and he wants it to to to just get done with so he cuts his numbers down

02:22:47.740 um and the ambushers uh they that were laying in wade made made at them in a charge and the

02:22:54.620 encounter ended in ale slaying two and the rest losing their morale and running back into the

02:23:01.020 woods then ale's company went on their way and nothing more happened till they got out of the

02:23:06.380 wood and found lodging near the wood with an with another land owner named alf alvar who was called

02:23:14.860 alf the wealthy he was an older man wealthy and money of strange temper so that he could keep but

02:23:22.060 few in his household a good reception ale found there and with him alf was talkative i think it's

02:23:28.220 kind of funny too like they these two guys kind of click they they understand each other in a way

02:23:34.220 um ale asked him many questions and alf told him what he asked they spoke much about the earl and

02:23:40.460 the king of norway and the messengers who had been before and gone eastward to gather tribute

02:23:46.780 alf in his talk was no friend to the earl so that makes him a friend of ale um

02:23:59.020 So chapter 74, Eil claims the tribute.

02:24:03.760 Eil made himself ready early the next morning to continue his journey, as did his comrades.

02:24:08.920 But at parting, Eil gave Alf a fur cloak as a gift.

02:24:13.280 Alf took the gift with thanks, saying, A good mantle have I here.

02:24:17.020 And he bade Eil to visit him again if he ever comes back this way.

02:24:21.340 And they parted as friends.

02:24:22.760 and ale going on his way came on the evening of a day to earl arnvid's court where he found a good

02:24:31.360 reception and he and his comrades were placed next to the sitter in the seat opposite the the

02:24:37.480 the uh earl um and i think this refers not that he's sitting in the high seat across

02:24:45.380 that is now sitting on the same side the bench of the high seat of the earl when ale had been

02:24:54.820 there for a night he declared his errand with the earl and the message of the king from from norway

02:25:00.500 and said that he wished to have all the tribute from vermiland that had been been owing since

02:25:06.740 arnvid had been set over the land so now it's just a brief reminder the earl here

02:25:14.580 has been accused he's the earl of vermiland and he has been accused of when hackron sends guys

02:25:22.100 to claim this tribute he then has an ambush set for them and then they get killed and he takes

02:25:29.300 the money back so that's kind of just looming as far as what's the reader is is is knowing um

02:25:39.620 but ale that's not even like i really don't think he's concerned but he also kind of boasts further

02:25:48.260 and says like no you you guys owe tribute for like numerous attempts uh the earl said that he

02:25:55.860 had paid out of hand all the tributes and delivered it into the hands of the king's messengers

02:26:02.100 but i know not he said what they have since done with it whether they brought it to the king or

02:26:08.740 ran away with it out of the land so he's not even saying like ambush he's like maybe they just took

02:26:13.620 it or they took it back to the king i don't i don't know um i just did my part um what they

02:26:21.940 have since done with it or yeah or whether they ran off with it out of the land however as he

02:26:27.620 bears sure tokens that the king has sent you i will pay you all the tribute to which he has a

02:26:33.140 right and deliver it into your hands but i will not be answerable afterwards for how you fare with

02:26:39.620 it ale and his men remained there for a while but before ale went away the earl paid them the tribute

02:26:46.220 Part was in silver and part was in furs.

02:26:50.700 And when Aeol's party were ready, they started for the return.

02:26:55.780 At their parting, Aeol said to the earl,

02:26:59.000 Now we will bear to the king this tribute which we have received.

02:27:03.500 But know, earl, that this is much less money than the king deems to be due his right.

02:27:10.260 And to that, without counting that, as he thinks,

02:27:13.520 thou oughtest to pay atonement for the messengers whom common rumor says thou didst cost them to

02:27:21.100 be slain the earl said that that was not true and with that they parted so ale does know about it

02:27:30.320 and says you know you you should pay back the king all that you know because the rumor is

02:27:36.960 you just took it back now when ale was gone the earl called to him his two brothers each of whom

02:27:46.700 was named ulver or wolf and he spoke thus that big fellow ale who was here for a while

02:27:56.080 will i expect do us an ill turn when he comes to the king he made by this mark how he will bear

02:28:05.480 our matter before the king that he threw in our face such a charge taking of life of the king's 0.63

02:28:12.600 messengers now must ye two go after the party and slay them all and i let none bear this slander

02:28:21.320 before the king so now he's doing what he's been accused of and is it reasoning to perpetuate 0.90

02:28:30.600 something that he's already done or is this just the first time he's doing it now um because he's

02:28:37.960 been slandered um i don't i don't see the logic in it because either way it's going to hurt his 0.89

02:28:45.160 standing with the king um so he says uh now must you two go after the party and slay them all and

02:28:54.360 let none bear this slander before the king he thinks that the wisest plan were to lie in wait 0.77

02:29:00.360 in either wood take with you so many men as to make sure that not one of them escape while you

02:29:07.320 get no less of men from them then did the brothers make ready for their journey and they took 30 men

02:29:15.160 and they went into the wood on which they knew every path then they watched ailes group coming

02:29:23.320 there there were two roads through the wood one led over a certain ridge and was a steep cliff

02:29:31.400 drop off and only a path for one this was the shorter road the other led around the edge of

02:29:39.640 the ridge over wide bogs across which hewn wood was laid there too making a causeway but for one

02:29:47.880 to pass and they lay in wait 15 in either place so they knew the party was going to take two

02:29:54.200 directions and they needed to funnel them down on one of them because it was wider the other one

02:29:59.960 it's just naturally tight so they're going to use these two spots as their ambush points

02:30:07.160 um and they split their forces 15 and 15. chapter 75 there where 15 men attack ail

02:30:17.880 So Eil went till he came to Alf's and was there for the night in good quarters.

02:30:23.640 So this is kind of going back while this is a preset of the ambush that we just learned about.

02:30:31.520 So the next morning he rose before day and made ready for his journey.

02:30:34.700 And while he sat over their morning meal, Alf and the master came in and said,

02:30:40.080 You are making for a start betimes, Eil, but my counsel would be that you hurry, not your journey,

02:30:46.400 but rather look before you where i think there be liars in wait for you in the woods i have no men

02:30:55.520 to give you as an escort who would be of any strength to you but this i offer that ye tarry

02:31:01.760 here with me till i can report to you that the wood is safe ale said that is mere nonsense

02:31:11.120 i will go on my way as before i meant to so he and his men made ready to go

02:31:18.560 while alf tried to stop them and bade them that they stay and not go if they saw that the way was

02:31:26.000 trodden none he said have passed the wood from the east since you ale went eastward except these

02:31:33.360 who i suspect have gone wishing to encounter you how many will they be thank you said ale

02:31:42.240 if it is as you say we have not lost the game though there be some odds against us

02:31:49.840 alf said i with my house carls have gone to the wood and we came on men's footprints the

02:31:57.120 trail led into the wood and there must have been many in all but if you do not believe this

02:32:02.800 that i say and go and see for yourself the trail and want to turn back please do if it seems as i

02:32:10.720 tell you so ale went his way and when they came where the road entered the wood they saw that

02:32:18.080 there were tracks of both men and horses ale's comrades then advised that they should turn back

02:32:25.680 and ale said no we'll press on methinks tis no wonder that men have gone through either wood

02:32:32.800 for it is a public road so they went on and the footmarks continued being of numerous company

02:32:41.200 and when they came to where the roads forked then the trail also forked and was equally strong

02:32:47.520 either way then said ale now think i that maybe elf has told the truth

02:32:56.720 we will now make us ready as expecting an encounter so the reason why he's saying that is

02:33:01.760 because this large troop splits and goes down two different pathways instead of carrying on

02:33:10.260 in one pathway this kind of lends him the clue that okay they're not they're waiting on the road

02:33:18.760 um they're waiting for our just our decision

02:33:22.900 uh so then ale and his men doffed their cloaks and all their loose clothing and laid these on

02:33:33.780 the sledge they take them all off they take off anything that might be in the way of the fight

02:33:40.900 ale had brought in his in his sleigh a very long cord of bast for it was the want of those who had

02:33:50.340 taken long slaying journeys to have them uh some spare cord in case the harness needed mending

02:33:59.460 ale took a large flat stone and laid it before his breast and stomach and then he went there

02:34:05.380 on with the cord and wound it around him so he digs out this large flat piece of probably slate

02:34:13.700 and put it over his chest and he starts suiting up he's got a he's putting on his

02:34:20.420 he's putting on a a plate he's making a plate carrier um he bent there on the cord and wound

02:34:28.740 it around him and so encased him right up to his shoulders after that they continued on so he's

02:34:34.740 suspecting and he's going to be in the forefront and again a sword can't if the the stone is thick

02:34:41.780 enough sorting gonna uh push through it in either wood is of the kind or excuse me either wood is of

02:34:51.540 the kind there is a reaching to the cultivated land on either side of this dense forest but in

02:34:58.660 the middle is a wide space of shrubbery and thin copse trees with some parts being quite bare of

02:35:06.180 wood ale and his company turned by the shorter way which lay over the ridge they all had their

02:35:13.380 shields and helms and weapons both to cut and to thrust ready to go ale walked first and when they

02:35:21.540 came to the ridge there was wood at the foot of it but above on the rock it was bare but when they

02:35:28.020 came up to the rock then seven men leapt out of the wood and up to the cliff after them and shot

02:35:35.060 at them with, with arrows, excuse me. Then came other men against them from above on the crag's

02:35:43.800 brow. And they started throwing stones at them. And this was by far the greatest danger. Then

02:35:51.540 said Ale, now must you step back and close up to the cliff and cover yourselves as best as you can.

02:35:58.460 So back, put your back up against the wall of the cliff so that they can't get a straight shot on

02:36:03.720 you um as best you may i will try to win the summit they did so and then ale got past the rock

02:36:12.360 out on the top there were in front eight men who all at once set upon ale on other exchange of

02:36:22.040 blows not is there to tell the end was ale slew them all so not in too much great detail but

02:36:30.360 basically he says get your backs against the wall i'm gonna push you know point and go up on the

02:36:37.240 summit and get rid of the rock tossers and when he goes up there he he cleans house

02:36:44.120 and uh and just waxes all these dudes um

02:36:50.120 so then ale uh oh sorry let's say i'm sorry i gotta i've gone off on that tangent there um

02:36:55.560 um yeah ale slew them all and then he set forward to the verge of the summit and started hurling

02:37:03.000 stones that none could withstand and there after three of the the vermians fell but four got them

02:37:10.500 into the wood sore wounded and bruised so he goes forward gets the guys up on the

02:37:16.380 cliff summit and then starts using their tactic against them as they are trying to attack his men

02:37:22.500 below. Then Ael and his men took to their horses and went on their way till they came over the

02:37:29.100 ridge. But the Vimerians, uh, which again, this is the land that they're, that they, they come from 0.95

02:37:36.720 the, um, the, uh, tribute land, uh, who had escaped, brought news of this to their fellows

02:37:45.060 who were on the other side in the other trail of the bog. They then advanced by lower road.

02:37:51.680 and so to beset way in front of ale so the remainders of those that were in that secondary

02:37:58.240 ambush of 15 men the whoever survived they run and they go and grab the other 15 men and instead of

02:38:06.240 like just trogging across and following and they're like no we know the land so we're going to cut in

02:38:11.520 front of them um so they uh they were then advanced by the lower road and so beset their

02:38:22.000 way in front of ale ulf said to his comrades we must now go cunningly to work with them

02:38:28.240 and so manage that none of them get away this said he is the nature of the ground the road skirts the

02:38:35.200 ridge close to the front of which runs the bog while a rocky brow is above and the passage lies

02:38:41.360 beneath these and is no broader than a footpath now some of us shall go forward round the brow

02:38:47.440 to withstand them if they advance but some shall hide here in the wood and leap out behind them

02:38:53.760 and will will flank them um out at their back when they have got on before us and take we such heed

02:39:02.640 that none escape they did as ulf bade and ulf went forward around the brow and then ten men

02:39:11.120 with him and remember too olf is one of the brothers i i cannot remember if the

02:39:17.440 other brother was slain in the first ambush but they make no mention of it um

02:39:25.360 so alien his men went on their way knowing not of this plan till they came into the narrow path

02:39:33.040 then out leapt men from behind them and drove at them with weapons they faced about to defend

02:39:39.680 themselves now also dashed at them those who were in the front of the rocky brow and when ale saw

02:39:45.920 that saw that he turned to meet them quick were the blows exchanged between them and ale smote

02:39:53.680 down some of them in the narrow pass so what's most likely too is that they're actually not

02:39:57.920 even riding their horses they're walking with their horses and when he sees this he turns around

02:40:02.560 and he just goes for the the against the rear assault um ale dashed after them and there fell

02:40:11.840 ulf and in the end ale slew there single-handedly 11 men then he went where his comrades were

02:40:21.120 keeping the pass before the other eight men and they were wounded on both sides but when ale came

02:40:28.160 in then at once upon them they fled back when they saw ale coming five escaped all of them wounded

02:40:37.280 but three fell there and ale had many wounds but none of them were serious

02:40:44.160 so this is just epic fighting uh back and forth and i really wish there was more details as to

02:40:52.880 how they actually went about fighting but at the end you know they ale is a just a terrible force

02:41:00.800 to be reckoned with and again he's coming at him with this big stone strapped to his chest um

02:41:09.280 and then they gathered up and continued their journey he bound his comrades wounds

02:41:15.280 none of the none of which were truly mortal and they sat in the sleigh they drove the rest of the

02:41:21.360 day so that the slaves being drugged by the horses they put the wounded in there and and carried on

02:41:31.520 but the vermians who escaped took their horses and dragged themselves from the wood eastward

02:41:38.000 to an inhabited inhabited parts there they got their wounds bound procuring companions that

02:41:44.320 they made their way to the earl and told him of the terrible misadventure that they had

02:41:50.240 they told how both oh so yeah here is confirmed that both of the brothers fell um they tell of how

02:41:58.640 both ulfs had fallen 25 men were dead and but only five escaped with their lives and they all

02:42:06.640 were wounded and bruised the earl then asked what they what were their tidings of ale and his

02:42:12.720 comrades and i think in this sense he's asking like are they hurt are they at least mortally injured

02:42:17.600 Are they going to even make it? And they answered, we know not for sure how much they have that are

02:42:24.660 wounded, but full boldly did they set on us when we were eight and they four. And then we fled.

02:42:32.140 Five reached the wood, but three perished. Yet for all we could see, Ael and his men were as fresh 0.99

02:42:38.220 as ever. The earl said that their journey had been a bad one as it could be. I could have been

02:42:45.560 content we should have great loss of life and yet but slain these northmen but now when they come

02:42:54.360 west from the wood and tell the tidings to norway then may we expect from him the very hardest of

02:43:02.200 terms so uh and i don't have the map and access but are these um men living in what is now sweden

02:43:10.760 yes they're like

02:43:13.580 I wish I had my 0.98

02:43:17.520 Scandinavian

02:43:19.920 geography a little bit better

02:43:21.200 there's that big lake

02:43:23.300 thingy

02:43:25.860 in Sweden

02:43:27.540 in southern

02:43:29.880 Sweden kind of parallel to

02:43:31.960 Oslo Fjord

02:43:33.020 that big lake thingy

02:43:35.020 yes that's a technical

02:43:37.980 term that's a

02:43:39.440 so anyways this is the biggest lake there in sweden they're slightly north of that this is

02:43:47.000 just over the mountains there's that mountain ridge that cuts through and kind of divides

02:43:52.120 norway and sweden this is just on the swedish side

02:43:54.780 yeah and this situation is bad because even if he didn't orchestrate the uh ambushes before

02:44:06.880 on the, um, the, uh, tribute messengers, you know, he says, I've been slighted. So

02:44:15.320 kill these guys. So now, even if he hadn't done it before, he did it this time, which 1.00

02:44:21.200 pretty much dooms him to the other times, no matter what. And he's like, he knows if

02:44:27.740 ale gets out of the wood and gets into norway is not going to be good

02:44:32.620 so chapter 76 ale hands over the tribute and sails to iceland

02:44:44.540 ale traveled on till came westward out of the wood they made for thorfinns that evening where

02:44:53.020 they were well received their wounds were bound up and they stayed there for several nights

02:44:58.140 helga the master's daughter was now on her feet and whole from her ailment for this she and all

02:45:05.400 the family thanked ale greatly he he and his rest he and his rested there themselves and their

02:45:14.540 beasts the man who had great uh carved the runes they use the word graved um again for like i guess

02:45:24.940 cutting on stone for graves uh but who carved the ruins for helga dwelt not far off

02:45:31.100 it now came out that he had asked for her to be his wife but thorfinn would not would not give her

02:45:38.780 to this arrangement and then this landowner's son would feign beguile her but she would not consent

02:45:47.340 so he thought to carve love runes but he did not understand them aright and graved that where from

02:45:57.180 she took her sickness so it wasn't even the fact that he was trying to heal her i mean he was but

02:46:04.700 he's also trying to make her fall in love and it just made her ill and when ale was ready to depart

02:46:11.980 thorfinn and his son escorted them on the road they being thus 10 or 12 and company and they

02:46:18.060 went with them all day as a guard against armoth and his house calls but when the tidings were

02:46:23.820 heard how ale's band had fought against overwhelming odds in the wood and conquered

02:46:29.180 them then armoth thought it hopeless to raise shield against ale wherefore he with all his ally

02:46:35.980 with all his men sat at home ale and thorfinn exchanged gifts at their parting and pledged

02:46:41.340 themselves to friendship then ale with his men went their way and no tidings are told of their journey

02:46:48.140 before they came to thorstein's so that that that part there too about adding in with the runic

02:46:55.180 that the young man was trying to seduce her with with uh uh

02:47:02.620 love runes um and that was also kind of again the the botch that caused much of the sickness

02:47:08.700 i think that's just interesting that they added that in but ale doesn't do anything about that

02:47:14.380 and it was just kind of placed in there as a matter of fact that you know while you were gone 0.91

02:47:19.580 we you know inquired further and you know he was being a little twat and trying to 0.95

02:47:27.020 you know win my daughter over through magic um 0.71

02:47:33.980 their their wounds were healed so again they're they're really at every stop they're they're

02:47:39.740 tending to their wounds so they did get hit pretty heavy um ale stayed there till spring

02:47:45.740 But Thorstein sent messengers to King Hakon to bring him the tribute for which Eil had won in Vermaland, who, when they came before the king, told him of the tidings of what had been and what had been done in Eil's journey and brought him the tribute.

02:48:02.960 The king was now sure that what he had before suspected was true, namely that Arnvid, the earl, had caused the slaying of two companies of messengers that he had sent eastward before.

02:48:16.680 The king said that Thorstein should have leave to dwell in the land and should be reconciled to him.

02:48:23.420 then the messengers returned home and on coming to Thorstein told him the king was well pleased

02:48:29.720 with this Vermaland journey and that Thorstein was now to have reconciliation and friendship

02:48:35.960 with the king so that ultimatum that was laid at Thorstein's feet that he should go there

02:48:41.240 and get the tribute um even though he sent ale um it confirmed much so now the king was not looking

02:48:50.540 at him as, you know, an enemy that might need to be outlawed. King Hakon in the summer went eastwards

02:48:58.240 to Vik, whence he journeyed still eastward to Vermaland with a large force. Earl Arnviv fled,

02:49:08.160 but the king took large fines from those landowners whom he thought guilty against him,

02:49:13.340 according to the reports of those who went after the tribute he set over the land another earl

02:49:19.980 taking hostages of him and of the landowners and that that hostaging he took key family members

02:49:27.820 and brought them back so that they wouldn't be so disposed to uprise or do anything because now

02:49:35.180 you got loved ones kind of in the in the hall of the king um

02:49:42.200 so in this expedition hakon went far and wide about western gotland and subdued it as is told

02:49:53.220 in his own saga and is found in the poems composed about him so this spurns on his he raises this big

02:50:01.200 army to kind of you know crush uh arvid and and the uh and and vermiland and then he's like whoa

02:50:10.240 you've got this big army now so then they go even further and go towards gotland which is on i guess

02:50:16.240 the east coast of sweden if i remember correctly and um and uh subdues it and brings it under his

02:50:24.320 his rule for tribute then was it that with two ships he disabled 12 ships of the danes

02:50:32.480 and gave to trigva son of his brother olaf the name of king and the rule over vic eastwards

02:50:43.280 ale in in the summer made ready his merchant ship and got there to a crew but the long ship

02:50:51.840 that he had brought from denmark in the autumn he gave to thorstein as a gift in parting thorstein

02:50:57.520 gave ale many good gifts and they pledged them to close to a close friendship ale sent messengers to

02:51:05.760 fjord his wife's kinsman in our land and gave him charge to arrange that those lands that ale owned

02:51:13.840 in son and in hordaland in norway uh bidding him sell them if there were a buyer and when ale was

02:51:22.080 ready for his voyage they sailed out along the bay and then northwards along the norwegian coast

02:51:27.760 and afterwards out into the main they had fairly good breeze and came from the main into borga fair

02:51:35.840 in iceland and ale steered his ship up the fjord to a haven close to his house he had his his cargo

02:51:45.680 conveyed and carried home and his ship was set up on props and ale went home to his house

02:51:51.760 fain where folk to see him where he stayed that winter

02:51:55.440 so that was a successful like two-year uh voyage of you know money and loot and just renown and

02:52:10.360 fighting kind of wild like just two two two summers really not even two years just two summers

02:52:17.720 um chapter 77 of kettil gufa's thralls

02:52:25.880 by the time that ale had come out to iceland from his journey the whole district was now settled

02:52:34.340 all the original land takers were dead but their sons or the son's sons were now living there and

02:52:41.700 dwelt in the district kettil gufa came to iceland when the country was almost fully settled and

02:52:49.120 spent his first winter at gufa scholar in ross it's spelled oddly let me see uh rose valnessy

02:53:04.360 the settle or the uh area of the roses

02:53:09.740 that's it's it's oddly spelled too i'm on both sides i'm gonna have to look that up um

02:53:20.540 kettle had come from iceland and brought a good number of irish slaves with him

02:53:26.460 all the land in uh rose valness had been claimed by then so kettle crossed over from there

02:53:35.740 to the nesses and spent the next winter in governess though he found no place to live

02:53:42.380 there either and after that he traveled up to uh and spent the third winter there at a place

02:53:50.300 since known as guva scholar the river that runs into the sea where he kept his ship over the

02:53:56.940 winter is called guv river or the giving river because his his name means kettle the giver um

02:54:06.460 at that time fjord lambason was living in lambasted he was married with a fully grown son

02:54:15.020 named lambi a tall lad strong for his years in the summer when people went to the thing

02:54:22.700 lambi decided to ride to the thing as well the all thinker um the the great moot um that happens

02:54:31.580 um in iceland and by this time kettle guv had gone west to braida fjord in search of a place

02:54:41.020 to live then his slaves all ran away and one night they came to fjord's house in lambastead

02:54:48.300 they set fire to it and burned fjord to death with all in his household then they broke open

02:54:55.660 his storehouse carried out his goods and valuables and drove outside in horses loaded them with packs

02:55:02.380 and went over to elf alftonness so again the irish slaves that were probably taken from battle

02:55:10.060 um or what have you they're not content with being thralls so they they break away from uh kettle

02:55:20.300 go across and hit another farm and get supplies but in doing so they kill a lot of people

02:55:27.820 um that morning about sunrise lamby came back home he had seen the fire during the night

02:55:34.460 he had several men with him and rode off at once in search of these slaves

02:55:39.340 while people from other farms came to join him so now immediately they're going to start looking for

02:55:44.780 these guys when the slaves saw that they were being followed they dropped all the loot that

02:55:49.580 they had and tried to get away some ran west to miriar others down to the sea till they came to

02:55:56.140 a fjord then lamby and his men came up and killed the one named cori there and the place has since

02:56:04.780 been known as koraness ever since but the but the slaves named scori uh thormov and svart dived

02:56:15.660 into the sea and started swimming away from the shore which is crazy to me because i know like

02:56:21.420 like it's probably summertime but swimming in the water in Iceland is

02:56:26.600 not conducive to living a good life a very long life uh Lombi and his men began searching among

02:56:37.920 the boats and then rode after the slaves at Skora's Isle they came upon Skori and killed

02:56:44.720 him thereafter so now they're basically just stating why these places are named for what they

02:56:51.000 are. Then rode out to Thormavskeri, where they killed Thormav, after whom the skeri takes its 0.86

02:56:57.600 name, and so caught up with the other slaves at the places named after them as well. After that,

02:57:05.520 Lambi farmed in Lambastead. He was a good farmer, physically very powerful, but no troublemaker.

02:57:12.380 And Kedil Guva traveled west across Bradafjord and made his home in Thorskafjord. Guva Dale

02:57:20.780 and Guverfjord are named after him he married Iri the daughter of Yermond Hellskin and their son

02:57:31.240 Vali not to be confused with Vali but uh also too just what a um a name Hellskin

02:57:40.900 um most likely to probably given to him because he might have had um eczema and you know looked

02:57:49.240 like a corpse hell skin or any anything involving the invoking of the name of the of her hell uh

02:57:59.480 is always in kind of reference to death and and the morbidity of it and again name price

02:58:05.160 or names are often given sometimes um with due and then other times because of features if you will

02:58:15.960 uh there was a man named grim son of sverting he dwelled at moss fell below the heath rich was he

02:58:26.320 and of good family and his sister was ranve whom thorov the priest of olvos had to had to wife

02:58:36.660 their son was skapti the lawman grim was also afterwards a lawman he asked to wife thortis

02:58:45.000 daughter of Thorof Eil's brother and stepdaughter to Eil. Eil loved Thordis no wit less than his

02:58:53.100 own children. She was a very beautiful woman, and since Eil knew that Grim was a wealthy man,

02:59:00.400 the match he deemed was good, and so it was settled, and Thordis married Grim. Then Eil

02:59:07.440 paid over to her her father's heritage, and she went home with Grim, and the pair dwelt long in

02:59:14.580 Mosfell. So again, it's just stating where people are, why things are named, and kind of following

02:59:23.820 the lineage. And again, he loved his brother's daughter like it was his own daughter. And so

02:59:30.880 when she got married, the dowry and everything that went with her was of substance that, you

02:59:37.240 know, her father had earned. So he's in the same sense as he's constantly harping on what he

02:59:43.320 deserves he meets out what others deserve and doesn't try to hoard it um chapter 78 ale speaks

03:00:00.280 the sonatoric and iron iron bjorn bjorn there was a man named olaf son of housecold dale cole's son

03:00:15.000 and mel corka's daughter of mir carton king of the irish now just briefly just to let you

03:00:24.680 guys know so carton saga and the fact that olaf get buys a slave in the baltic sea and she's

03:00:36.280 considered a mute she doesn't speak the language it doesn't speak at all and um he sleeps with her

03:00:42.600 and when she arrives back to iceland with him she's pregnant olaf's wife was not happy about 0.89

03:00:48.280 this so she says you know get rid of them and he says okay well i'm i'm gonna put them way off in

03:00:55.000 the in the heath edge and uh he comes up to them one day and finds out that she does speak a

03:01:00.920 language the language he doesn't understand but what it turns out to be is gaelic and um her name

03:01:09.480 is melcorka and um they name their son kjartan after her father mir kjartan who is a chieftain

03:01:21.400 in ireland and there's a whole story with him getting an armband and going to ireland and

03:01:27.880 chasing out the um the the the northmen i don't remember if they were norwegians or

03:01:35.640 danes that's set up in dublin so that's a whole nother kind of cool story uh to look into um

03:01:45.560 so olaf uh father of carton and husband to mel corka olaf dwelt in yardaholt in lox riverdale

03:01:56.520 uh and again lox is uh salmon or fish um in the river um so it's the the fish river

03:02:03.400 valley westward of broad firth in the dales olav was very wealthy the handsomest man in iceland of

03:02:11.620 his time and of noble character he asked to wife thorgerd ale's daughter thorgerd was calmly

03:02:20.820 tall above women want wise proud spirited but in daily life gentle ale was well acquainted with

03:02:30.720 Olaf and knew that the match was a worthy one. Therefore, or wherefore, Thorgerd was given to

03:02:38.540 Olaf. She went home with him in Hjardrsholt. Their children were Kjartan, Thornbjörg, Haldor,

03:02:47.980 Steindor, Thörev, Thjörbjörg, Bergthora, who married Thorol Odesson, the priest, or the govi.

03:02:58.040 uh thorbjörg married with out uh ausger naterson and later vermund thorgrimson

03:03:07.640 ferrith married guzmans solmond solmonderson and their sons were hall and killer bardi or yeah

03:03:18.520 uh viga viga bardi um so this just kind of gives a brief kind of tangent into the the

03:03:28.040 the great households kind of intermingling with each other um and again it's worth noting too

03:03:34.280 they said Kjartan and then there was the those those children so Kjartan is listed even though

03:03:42.460 he's the son of um uh Malkorka but that's because of his renown and again this part is just giving

03:03:52.440 to the audience like all of these big families in their own sagas kind of all you know marrying

03:03:57.940 into each other so ozer ivan their son brother of thoroth in in olvas had to uh had to wife

03:04:11.860 ale's daughter bera baldvar ale's son was just now growing up he was a youth of great promise

03:04:21.140 handsome tall strong as had been ale or thorolf at that age ale loved him dearly and both var

03:04:29.620 was very fond of his father and one summer it happened that there was a ship in the white river

03:04:35.540 and a great fair was held there ale had there bought much wood which he was having conveyed

03:04:42.900 a home by the water for his house carls went taking with them an eight oared boat that belonged

03:04:49.940 to ale it chanced one time that bodvar begged to go with them and they allowed him to do so

03:04:57.220 so he went into the field with the house carls they were six in all on the eight board boat

03:05:03.540 and when they had to go out again high water was late in the day and as they they must needs

03:05:09.700 wait for the turn of the tide they did not start till late in the evening then came on a violent

03:05:16.100 southwest gale against which ran the stream of ebb this made a rough sea in the fjord and as

03:05:24.980 can often happen the end was that the boat sank underneath them and they were all lost

03:05:33.060 the next days the bodies were cast up on the shore and bodvard's body came on the shore in

03:05:38.980 aynars aynarsness but some came in on the south shore of the firth whether also the boat was

03:05:47.620 driven being found far in the near uh so tragedy hits the one the first time he lets his son go

03:05:59.220 out to this festival on their way back the sea takes takes him ale heard of these tidings the

03:06:10.100 same day and at once he rode to seek the bodies there he found his son bodvar he took him up

03:06:18.340 set him upon his knees and rode on the horse uh to digreness to skallagrim's mound

03:06:28.340 then he had the mound opened up and inside he laid bodvar's body down there by skallagrim

03:06:36.100 after which the mound was then closed again this task was not finished till about nightfall

03:06:43.860 Eil then rode home to Bork, and when he came home, he went at once to the locked bed closet in which he was off to sleep.

03:06:54.420 He lay down, shut himself in, and none dared to beg him of speech.

03:07:04.160 It is said that when they laid Bodvar in the earth, Eil was thus dressed.

03:07:10.240 his hose or his his uh woolen leggings were tight fitting he wore a red

03:07:17.680 curdle of fustian closely knitted or closely fitted and laced at the sides but they say

03:07:24.320 that his muscles so swelled with the exertion that the curdle was rent off of him as were his pants

03:07:31.760 so basically he worked so hard and so tires tirelessly to put his son in the mound he tore

03:07:39.040 his good clothes because he just left immediately um and on the next day ale still did not open his

03:07:47.440 bed closet so it's also worth noting at the time in the halls they would build these wooden

03:07:54.560 enclosures with actual sliding doors so when you went to sleep you would shut the doors behind you

03:08:02.080 um and the bed was kind of in there so almost like a like a bunk bed with with an

03:08:08.560 enclosure around it and nobody's sleeping on top um he did not eat any he uh he had no meat or drink

03:08:18.400 there he lay for for that day and the following night no man dared to speak with him but on the

03:08:25.280 third morning as soon as it was light ausgerder had a man set on horseback who wrote as hard as

03:08:32.240 he could westward to yard of the hold and told thorger of all these things it was it was about

03:08:40.240 nuns when he got there no uh so nuns um it's worth noting too that that term nuns um is a marking of

03:08:52.000 hourage that started coming in because of day tidings from uh time reckoning um that was coming

03:09:03.040 up from central europe and like prayers at nons is a is a term that's used and it's it's believed

03:09:12.960 that nons means about two or three in the afternoon um but it's not quite fully you know

03:09:20.960 understood because it it's used so raring rare rarely but it seems to have some influence from uh

03:09:30.400 gathering for mass or gathering like at church in the central europe and it just became like

03:09:36.320 a time setting that even up in the north they were utilizing um he said that he he said also

03:09:45.520 that ausgerder had sent her word to come without delay southward to bjord thorger there at once

03:09:52.000 bade them saddle her horse and the two men that attended her they rode that evening and through

03:09:57.120 the night till they came to board thorger there went at once into the hall ausger greeted her

03:10:03.440 and asked whether they had eaten any supper thorger said aloud no supper have i no supper have

03:10:11.840 i had and none will i have till i sup with freya i can do no better than does my father so now

03:10:21.040 thorgrather is saying no i'm not going to eat anything my father is in distress she's

03:10:25.520 clearly in distress but she makes a great point she speaks about her belief that she will one day

03:10:35.520 up in sessramnir with um the holy freya um and that that that this again lends to another tenant

03:10:47.040 of the asitra folk assembly about ascension and uh so you know if people come at you saying

03:10:54.160 oh ascension that sounds like christian stuff no it's it's clearly here she's she's speaking of that

03:11:00.240 um she says I will not overlive my father and my brother she then went to the bed closet and called

03:11:11.040 father open the door I will that we both travel the same road ale undid the lock thought together

03:11:18.240 stepped up into the bed closet and locked the door again and lay down on the on another bed

03:11:23.760 that was there so basically she just she comes home she's so grief stricken she says i'm you know

03:11:31.860 if my father's gonna starve himself to death i'm gonna starve myself to death too in in grief uh

03:11:39.540 at the at the loss of my my little brother and she crawls into the the the bed closet which

03:11:45.620 sometimes had multiple beds within it and um she just goes in there and basically sits um

03:11:53.400 in there with her father and they're both kind of just sullen and they're they're mourning

03:11:59.920 um then ale says to her you do well daughter and that you will follow your father

03:12:10.560 great love have you always shown me what hope there uh what is there that i shall wish to live

03:12:21.420 with this grief after this they were silent for a long while and then ale spoke

03:12:27.040 what is now daughter you are chewing something are you not

03:12:32.520 i am chewing sam fear she said because i think i will do me harm otherwise i think i may live too

03:12:40.920 long is sam fear bad for a man said ale very bad she said would you like to eat some

03:12:50.380 why should i not he said a little while after she called and bade them give her drink and water was

03:12:58.340 brought to her then said ale this comes of eating samfer one ever thirsts more would you like a

03:13:07.140 drink father she said and he he took and swallowed the liquid in deep draught then said thorger

03:13:13.740 now we are deceived this is milk we're at ale bit a sherd off the horn all of his teeth gripped

03:13:23.660 and cast the horn down so this part here is that they're so brought with grief that

03:13:33.580 they're imbibing in a poison but the other people in the house don't want them to die so

03:13:40.060 So they give them a horn of milk, again, to assuage whatever poison they're chewing on.

03:13:54.700 Then spoke Thorgerðr, what counsel shall we take now, now that this purpose of ours is defeated?

03:14:02.820 Now I would feign, Father, that we should lengthen our lives so that you may compose a funeral poem for Bodvar.

03:14:10.060 i will grave it or carve it on a wooden roller after that we can die if we like hardly i think

03:14:19.100 can thorstein your son compose a poem for bodvar but it would it were unseemly that he should not

03:14:27.500 have the funeral rights though i do not think that we too shall sit at the drink at the drinking when

03:14:33.580 the funeral feast is held ale said that this was not to be expected that he would now compose

03:14:40.620 though he were to attempt it he said however i'll i'll try this ale had another son named gunner

03:14:50.700 who had died a short time before so then ale began his poem and this is the beginning

03:14:59.340 the loss of sons

03:15:00.940 much doth it task me my tongue to move through my throat to utter the breath of song posy

03:15:14.140 prize of olden promise now i may not i drop drawn not lightly from deep thoughts dwelling

03:15:23.420 forth it flows but hardly for within my breast heavy sobbing strifes hindered stream of song

03:15:35.420 blessed boon to mortals brought from odin's kin goodly treasure stolen from giant land of yore

03:15:44.940 he who is so blameless bore him in life overborn by billows with boat was whelmed

03:15:57.040 sea waves flood that willum whelms from the giant's wound smite upon the grave's gate

03:16:06.580 from my sire and son.

03:16:10.180 So he uses a couple of kennings there.

03:16:13.140 One of the big ones is

03:16:14.160 sea waves flood

03:16:15.920 that Willem welled from the giant's womb. 1.00

03:16:19.460 The ocean is the blood of Ymir. 0.93

03:16:23.940 And of course, too, in the stanza before,

03:16:25.780 he speaks of the winning

03:16:27.000 of the mead of poetry by Lord Ovid.

03:16:32.840 So in stanza four, he says,

03:16:35.480 dwindling now my kindred draw near to their end even as the forest saplings felled or tempest

03:16:42.600 strown not gay or gladsome goes he who beareth body of kinsmen on the funeral byre

03:16:50.240 a father fallen first i may tell of much loved mother must mourn the loss 0.97

03:16:59.020 Sad store hath memory

03:17:01.860 For minstrel skill

03:17:03.760 A word to bloom leafy with words of song

03:17:07.660 Most woeful the breach

03:17:10.480 Or the wave in break

03:17:12.680 On the fence hold of my father's kin

03:17:17.240 Unfilled as I wot

03:17:20.600 And open doth stand the gape of sun rent

03:17:25.180 By that greedy surge

03:17:27.360 Mi Raun 0.93

03:17:33.520 the sea queen

03:17:34.980 this is again mentioning

03:17:37.460 two of they're not

03:17:39.320 of the Isir but are 1.00

03:17:41.400 of the Yotans that make 0.98

03:17:43.380 allegiance with the

03:17:44.680 the holy gods is

03:17:47.440 Raun the ever

03:17:49.340 waiting

03:17:49.940 mistress of the deep

03:17:52.660 and he says

03:17:55.300 uh me round the sea queen roughly hath shaken i stand of beloved ones stripped all bare cut

03:18:04.660 half the billow the court of my kin strand of mine own twisting so stout and strong

03:18:13.700 sure if sword would venge such cruel wrong evil times would wait

03:18:19.780 ayur ocean god that wind giant's brother were i strong to slay against him and his sea brood

03:18:30.420 battling would i go

03:18:34.580 so he's saying you know if if if i could if i was strong enough to plunge my sword into the heart 0.98

03:18:42.260 of ayur i would and slay all the brood of his of his ocean depths for taking my son 0.99

03:18:49.780 but I in no wise boast as I wean strength that may strive with the stout ship's bane 1.00

03:18:59.760 for to eyes of all easy now tis seen how the old man's lot helpless is and lone

03:19:09.260 so now we fall on the great tragedy of his age

03:19:13.040 me hath the main of much bereaved dire is the tale the deaths of kin since he the shelter and

03:19:23.580 the shields of my house hide him from life to heaven's glad realm again another reference to

03:19:31.420 ascendancy full surely I know in my son was waxing the stuff and the strength of a stout limbed white

03:19:40.720 Had he reached but ripeness to raise his shield, and Odin laid hand upon him on his liegemen true? 0.77

03:19:53.320 Willing he followed his father's word, though all opposing should thwart my reed.

03:19:59.200 He in mine household my honor upheld, and my power and my rule the prop and the stay.

03:20:04.980 So his son always honored his father, even when others stood against him.

03:20:10.720 Off to my mind, my loss does come, how I, brotherless bide, bereaved and alone, thereon I bethink me, when thickens the fight, thereon with much searching my soul doth muse.

03:20:30.520 so he's he's he's off he's speaking to of the the ur the urge the urging of his fight is because

03:20:40.700 he felt alone at the loss of his brother and now he's lost his son but it was it was the fact that

03:20:48.460 he could live on with his sons and now that's been taken of him so even even battle lust is

03:20:56.600 you know no longer of of a same luster because there's no one to live on to carry uh his his

03:21:06.020 homestead um 14 who staunch stands by me in stress of fight shoulder to shoulder side by side

03:21:15.200 such want doth weaken in war dread war's dread hour weak winged i fly whom friends all fail

03:21:24.240 Son's place to his sire

03:21:28.100 Say the proverb true 1.00

03:21:30.440 Another son born alone can fill

03:21:33.800 Of kinsmen none

03:21:35.900 Though never so kind

03:21:37.780 To brother can stand

03:21:39.780 In brother's stead

03:21:41.180 Over all our ice fields

03:21:43.920 Our northern snows

03:21:46.060 Few now I find

03:21:47.700 Faithful and true 1.00

03:21:48.840 Dark deeds men love

03:21:51.700 Doom death to their kin

03:21:53.740 a brother's body barter for gold so he's basically speaking of how he's lost kind of one

03:22:02.220 true reliable sense as he's lived his life and had friends come and go and treachery is built

03:22:10.660 between them and he could always kind of rely on the faith of his son and now that's gone

03:22:16.000 Unpleasing to me our people's mood

03:22:20.780 Each seeking his own in selfish peace

03:22:24.300 To the happier bee's home

03:22:26.500 Hath passed my son

03:22:29.740 My good wife's child to his glorious king

03:22:33.680 O then, mighty monarch

03:22:37.600 Of minstrel mead, the Lord

03:22:39.760 On me a heavy hand

03:22:42.360 harmful doth lay gloomy and unrest ever i grieve and sinks my drooping brow seat of sight and

03:22:52.720 thought so he he does call out and say that my son now carries on to his kin and and that odin has

03:23:00.400 given him this this boon of dread and and gloom so in a way too it kind of starts the whole

03:23:11.220 lamenting of a warrior who isn't chosen if the vow father doesn't choose you and the life you

03:23:18.500 live and the things you have to experience like the loss of a son um so many times he's threw

03:23:24.020 himself into the fray came out alive only to be born a gift of witnessing the death of his son

03:23:31.060 18 he says fierce fire of sickness first from my home swept off a son with a savage blow

03:23:44.980 one who has heedful harmless i walk in deeds unblemished in words unblamed

03:23:51.620 his son was still young and and held no grievances in the world still

03:23:58.740 Still in twenties is still do I mind me when the friend of men high uplifted to the home of gods, that sapling stout of his father's stem of my true wife's born, a branch so fair.

03:24:12.920 Once bear I goodwill to the great spear lord, him trusty and true, I trowd for friend,

03:24:22.020 heir the giver of conquest, and the car-born God broke faith and friendship, false in my need. 0.92

03:24:31.640 That right there is the framing. He says, I bear goodwill to Lord Odin, and I was a trusted and

03:24:39.140 full truly to him in faith and he gave me conquest and carbon god a god of much bounty um

03:24:51.940 and and loot that's why uh farma is odin's one of odin's haiti a giver of goods

03:24:58.820 but he has broken faith and friendship with me um at the loss of his son so this is very very heavy

03:25:07.780 what he's saying now victim and worship to villers brother the god once honored i give no more

03:25:19.080 yet the friend of mimir on me hath bestowed some boot for bail if all boons i tell so

03:25:28.980 he is lamenting and has a pain he's having a loss of faith because he just doesn't understand how

03:25:39.900 he could have all these conquests and victories and never come out unscathed but

03:25:44.260 the true mortal wound he lays upon the gods and again this is coming from him in his

03:25:50.920 most bereaved moments um and he says despite all the boons i've won

03:25:58.700 he gives me this baleful strike this boot for bail uh 23

03:26:07.960 i he the wolf tamer the war god skillful gave posy faultless to fill my soul

03:26:16.720 gave wit to know well each wily trickster and force him to face me as a foeman in a fight

03:26:23.120 Hard am I beset

03:26:25.480 Whom Hela, the sister of Odin's fell captive

03:26:29.540 On digrenous weights 0.51

03:26:33.400 Yet shall I gladly

03:26:35.620 With right good welcome, dauntless and bearing

03:26:38.920 Her death blow bide

03:26:41.560 So he says here too

03:26:43.740 Odin's fell captive, of course, is the bound Loki

03:26:50.400 Loki is bound

03:26:52.060 um and uh he uh he referred in this translation too he refers to her as the sister

03:27:01.740 of odin's fell captive which i find very interesting i'm gonna have to look into that

03:27:07.980 more it might be a translational thing but he says in essence i wait for her death i

03:27:15.020 wait for her calling i want her to take me and take me now

03:27:22.060 he just he's basically he's residing himself

03:27:26.860 to no longer push forward and he's just going to wait out for death

03:27:35.420 ale began to cheer up as the composing of the poem went on and again the way that reads in

03:27:42.460 translation is like oh he just yeah that's all good now no in essence what it is is that he's

03:27:48.780 he's alleviating a lot of his depression as he speaks this poem and when the poem was complete

03:27:55.740 he brought it before us go to that and throw together and his family he rose from his bed

03:28:00.700 and he took his place in the high seat this poem he called the loss of sons and now ale

03:28:07.180 had the funeral feast for his son held there after ancient custom but when thought together

03:28:13.180 went home ale enriched her with good gifts so he feels that this composing of a poem

03:28:22.780 is worthy of his memory and again we're reading it today so he was correct um

03:28:31.420 but he gives his daughter a heaping gifts because he knows now it's you know he's done

03:28:38.940 so long time did ale dwell at bjork and became an old man but it is not told that he lit that he had

03:28:49.500 lawsuits with any there in the land nor is there word of single combats or war and slaughter

03:28:57.020 of his after he settled down in iceland they say that ale never went abroad out of iceland

03:29:03.420 again after the events and for this the main cause was that ale might not be in norway by reason

03:29:10.780 for the charges which as has been told before the kings there deemed they had against him

03:29:17.740 he kept house in munificent style for there was no lack of money and his disposition led him to

03:29:25.420 munificence king hakon athelstan's foster son long ruled in norway but in the latter part of

03:29:33.100 his life eric's sons came to norway and strove with him for the kingdom and they had battles

03:29:39.420 together whereupon hakon gained victory every time the last battle was fought in hordaland

03:29:47.820 on store island at fitjar there king hakon won the victory but also got his death wound

03:29:54.700 After that, Erik's sons took the kingdom in Norway.

03:30:00.040 Lord Arnbjorn was with Harold, Erik's son, and was made his counselor and had him great honors.

03:30:08.420 He was the commander of his forces and the defender of his land.

03:30:11.920 A great warrior was Arnbjorn and victorious.

03:30:15.500 He was the governor of the Firthfolk.

03:30:18.220 Eil Skalagrim's son heard these tidings of the change of the kings in Norway,

03:30:22.440 and therewith now Arnbjorn had returned to his rightful estates in Norway

03:30:27.940 and was there in great honor, and Eil composed another poem for his friend,

03:30:33.820 Arnbjorn, whereof this is the beginning.

03:30:37.720 Arnbjorn's epic, or a part thereof.

03:30:43.240 For generous prince, swift praise I find, but stint my words to stingy churl.

03:30:50.220 Openly sing I of the king's true deeds

03:30:53.780 But silence keep on slander's lies

03:30:56.840 For fabling braggarts 1.00

03:30:59.440 Full am I of scorn 1.00

03:31:01.960 But willing speak I of worthy friends

03:31:05.860 So despite all the contrarians

03:31:09.380 Despite all the people that hate me

03:31:11.380 I am still a great poet

03:31:14.360 And I will speak poetry of good friends

03:31:17.720 So again, this is the referencing to the descendancy from the Holy Frey, the Yingling's children, and their race being of divine blood.

03:31:45.880 with hood of daring over the dark locks drawn a lord right noble i rode to seek there sat in

03:31:54.280 might the monarch strong with helm of terror high throned and dread a king unbending with

03:32:01.560 bloody blade within york city wielding his power that moon-like brightness might none behold nor

03:32:11.180 brook undaunted great eric's brow as fiery serpent his flashing eyes shot starry radiance stern and

03:32:20.380 keen yet i to this ruler of fish full seas my bolster mate's ransom made bold to bear

03:32:30.380 of odin's goblet overfloweth dew each listening ear mouth eagerly drank again the ear ear mouth

03:32:40.300 of course is referencing just the pouring of the mead within um every person that would listen

03:32:49.260 not beauteous and seeming my bardic fee to ranks of heroes in royal hall when i my hood knoll

03:32:56.940 wolf gray of hue for mead of odin from monarch got thankful i took it and there with all the

03:33:04.700 pit holes black of my beetling brows yay and that mouth that for me bear the poem of praise to

03:33:13.580 princely knees tooth fence took eye and tongue likewise so speaking from the mouth tooth fence

03:33:23.660 and tongue likewise ears sounding chambers and sheltering eaves and better deemed eye

03:33:30.380 then brightest gold the gift then given by glorious king my poems were were bereaved out like

03:33:38.540 a king giving gifts or even better so there a staunch stay stood by my side one man worthy many

03:33:48.380 meaner whites mine own true friend who trusty i found high courage ever in council holds

03:33:57.500 arnbjorn alone us saved foremost of champions from fury of king friend of the monarch he framed no

03:34:07.020 lies within the that palace of warlike prince so he's arnbjorn is free of all of the

03:34:17.420 hearsay that was thrust upon him by eric or uh by um harold excuse me and hakon

03:34:24.300 um and it's again his friend ended up working with eric eric's sons to take back so he does

03:34:34.060 give great praise to eric in this poem as well um and in 12 he says of the stay of our house

03:34:42.460 still spake he the truth while much he honored my hero deeds of the son of kveldolf himself

03:34:50.220 whom fair-haired king slew for slander but honored slain wrong were it if he who wrought me good

03:35:00.420 gold splendor lavish such gifts had cast to the wasteful track of the wild sea mew to the surge

03:35:09.140 rod ridden by sea king steeds so now he speaks of um herald fairhair when he gave him the axe to

03:35:17.900 to his father or what sorry he didn't receive the axe but the axe was given to thoral or thoralf

03:35:25.180 who then gave it to his father who is also ale's father and ale's father threw it into the ocean

03:35:33.020 and he's basically saying hackon was not worth the the the gold splendor that he was giving

03:35:39.660 and then he reiterates even more he was false to my friend where i fairly called an untrue steward

03:35:46.060 of odin's cup of praise unworthy pledge breaker vile if i for such good gave not again

03:35:55.680 so he's this is again everyone here hearing this is now receiving this

03:36:04.740 just huge slight against harold and his son hakon

03:36:11.040 now better see the bard to climb with feet poetic the frowning steep and set forth open

03:36:20.300 in sight of all the laud and the honor of highborn chief now shall my voice plain

03:36:28.040 shape into song virtues full and many a valiant friend ready on tongue twofold they lie

03:36:35.440 So he was a generous host at all times and always gave warm hearth to all that sought his all.

03:37:02.820 Folk bear witness with wandering praise

03:37:07.260 How all guests good gifts he gives

03:37:10.440 For Bjorn of the Hearthstone

03:37:13.200 Is blessed with store

03:37:15.240 Freely and fully by Freyr and Myrdor

03:37:18.800 So again, the lords of plenty

03:37:23.620 Have blessed him

03:37:25.540 And he always made sure to give in return

03:37:28.540 To him, high scion of Roald's tree, fullness of riches flowing hath come, and friends ride thither in thronging crowd by all wide ways neath windy heaven.

03:37:43.580 above his ears around his brow a coronal fair as a king he wore beloved by the gods beloved by men

03:37:55.260 the warrior's friend the weakling's aid so he was of noble

03:38:02.400 uh sense he was loved by all in a giver of gifts he wore a brow upon his brow a crown he was

03:38:13.260 beloved by the gods he was beloved by men he was a friend to warriors and helped those in need

03:38:18.960 he was the weak the weakling's aid um that mark he hitteth that most men miss

03:38:27.960 now money they gather this many lack for few be the bounteous and far between nor easily

03:38:37.520 shafted are all men spears out of the mansion of our bjorn when guested and rested in generous and

03:38:45.600 wise none with hard jest none with rude jeer and none with his axe hand ungifted high

03:38:55.360 anybody that came to him never left angry never left slighted and always left

03:39:02.160 not with needing his weapon hand but holding gifts he was a hater of money so he's free giving

03:39:11.680 is he of the firsts a foe to the gold drops of drop near born rings he scatters riches he squanders

03:39:21.600 of avarice thievish an enemy still so he was an enemy against avarice and greed and miserliness

03:39:31.360 long course of life his lot hath been by battles broken bereft of peace

03:39:38.160 sadly i'll have served him if the seed he has given should be wasted not winnowed and blow

03:39:46.800 in the wind early waked i word i gathered toiled each morning with speech molding tongue a proud

03:39:56.160 pile-built eye of praise long-lasting to stand unbroken in brai's town

03:40:05.680 so he lays a huge accolade towards arnbjorn

03:40:14.160 um so to have your name be held in high and renowned by ediel skull of crimson is

03:40:19.760 and again all of the people watching this or the people that will watch this in the future

03:40:26.300 are going to bear witness to these words

03:40:29.480 and that's how the poem ends and then it continues on and it says there was a man named Einar

03:40:36.540 who was the son of Helgi the son of Otter the son of Bjorn Easterling who took the land in

03:40:43.200 Broadford. Einar was the brother of Ostiv the seer. So just to bear that, and it says

03:40:56.900 in spauka, he's a spycraft or spay truth-telling. He speaks the truth or he's one of perhaps,

03:41:08.700 you know, like psychic inclination. Einar, at an early age, was tall and strong and most doughty.

03:41:18.360 He began to compose poetry when quite young and was eager for learning. So one summer, at the

03:41:23.720 thing, Einar went to the booth of Eil Skalagrimson, and they began to talk, and soon their talk took

03:41:30.180 this turn that they spoke of poetry, and in converse, both them found great pleasure. After

03:41:37.060 this Einar often went to talk with Eil and a great friendship was struck between the two of them

03:41:42.540 I think here at this point it's kind of like Eil is obviously known as a great poet and the loss

03:41:49.820 of his son this is kind of like he's finds a young man who's a love for poetry and it's kind of I

03:41:57.260 think filling a little bit of a void um Einar had not long returned to Iceland from foreign travel

03:42:06.100 that Eil asked Einar much of tidings from the east and about his friends with all about whose

03:42:13.240 those he deemed his enemies he asked also much about the men of rank and Einar in turn asked

03:42:19.460 Eil about the events that happened in his travels and about his exploits this talk pleased Eil and

03:42:26.640 was kept up briskly and Einar asked Eil on what occasions his prowess had been most heartily tried

03:42:33.940 and he begged him to say and ale spoke a verse to him one with eight i battled eleven faced i twice

03:42:43.400 made for wolf a meal left leaving corpses myself the bane of all shields shook by sword strokes

03:42:52.480 smitten fast and furious angry fire forth flashing flew my ashen spear

03:42:59.100 so now we have the old veteran

03:43:04.360 laying accolades of his past battles um to this young son-like um young man and

03:43:16.500 he in turn is telling um ale about all the kind of going ons in norway

03:43:23.300 um ale and einar pledged them to be french uh to friendship upon parting einar was long abroad

03:43:32.420 from iceland when men of with men of rank einar was open-handed and often short of money but

03:43:38.900 noble-hearted and manly he was in the bodyguard of earl halk halkan sigerson at the time there

03:43:46.580 us in Norway much war the battles between Earl Halkon and Eric's sons and now and now one now

03:43:54.520 the other was driven from the land King Harold Eric's son fell south in Denmark in house in

03:44:02.700 Lima for and this all is kind of very confusing because they reutilized names so swiftly that

03:44:10.820 you know again one king by one name and a new king rising up of the same name um

03:44:17.140 they fell south in denmark at house in limaferth this was by treachery he was then fighting with

03:44:26.840 harold newt uh newt's son who uh was called gold herald and earl halkon was halkon was there

03:44:36.860 There fell also with King Harold, Lord Arnbjorn, of whom much has already been told.

03:44:45.080 And when Eil heard of his friend's fall, then he sang this.

03:44:51.960 Mead givers, glorious men, gold spending warrior whites are spent and gone.

03:44:59.260 Where seek such lavish donors now

03:45:02.900 Ere while beyond the sea

03:45:05.040 Earth's inlet studded belt

03:45:07.620 Such on my high hawk's perch

03:45:10.700 Hail down the silver shower

03:45:12.960 So this too is

03:45:16.460 He's speaking of like

03:45:17.700 Where will now the young warriors go

03:45:19.520 To meet such gracious

03:45:21.180 And noble souls as Arnbjorn

03:45:25.140 and that he has gone, again, beyond the sea.

03:45:34.620 Einar, Helgi's son, the poet was nicknamed Skalaglam.

03:45:41.140 He composed a poet about Earl Hakan, which is called Deirth of Gold.

03:45:48.640 And for a long time, the Earl would not hear the poem because he was wroth with Einar.

03:45:54.520 And then Einar sang this poem.

03:46:25.480 to svigvold ship well org shield fenced my sword i lend wielder of wound snake

03:46:32.840 he will not my succor scorn i to his seaborne bark my buckler now will bear

03:46:43.560 so this is now speaking about how einar who learns kind of trains his poeticness with ale

03:46:50.280 speaks this poem um to halkan and says that he gives and pledges his sword and his shield to

03:46:58.000 to lay on the side of of of his boat um and to this the earl did not wish einar to go away

03:47:06.080 and he granted a hearing to the poem and thereafter gave einar a shield which was costly work

03:47:13.800 and it was inscribed with old tales and between and and between the writings were overlaid

03:47:20.080 spangles of gold with precious stones set therein einar went to iceland and lodged with his brother

03:47:26.620 osvid but in autumn he rode east and came to bjord and was guest there ale was just then

03:47:34.360 not at home having gone to the northern part of the district but was expected home einar waited

03:47:40.880 for him three nights longer than three nights it was not the custom to stay on a friendly visit

03:47:47.840 so again that's another thing to terry not too long in in the haba mall um terry not too long

03:47:53.600 at a person's house so it would be unseemly for him to say much longer

03:47:59.760 and as einer was making himself ready to go but when ready he went to ale's place in the hall

03:48:06.800 and there he hung the precious shield and told the housecarls that he left it there as a gift for ale

03:48:13.200 and then he left but on the same day ale did return and when he came into his place he saw

03:48:19.600 the shield and asked who was this that gave him such a costly work it was told to him that it was

03:48:25.520 einar skalaglam had come there and had left the shield as a gift for him then ale the wretched

03:48:34.320 man to give it he means that i should bide awake and compose poetry about his shield now bring me

03:48:41.600 my horse i must ride after him and slay him he was told that einar had ridden away early in the

03:48:48.560 morning he will they said by this become westward to the dales soon after ale composed a poem

03:48:57.280 whereof this is the beginning of shield the ship's bright guard to show the praise tis time

03:49:07.200 home to my hand is given the treasure sender's gift sure hath skalaglam to skillful guidance

03:49:14.320 lent speak ye who list my lay the reigns of minstrel lore so it's again worth noting the

03:49:22.720 in the paragraph before when he says um surely he's given me this gift to force me to compose 0.56

03:49:30.080 a poem and i should you know i should go out and kill him for making me do this um as a joke

03:49:39.200 um and ale and einar remained friends so long as they both lived but about the shield's fortune at

03:49:47.200 last this was told that ale took it with him to the wedding when he went north to broadmoor

03:49:53.760 with thor kettle gunwald's son and red bjorn's son treffel treville and helgi there the shield

03:50:01.600 was was exploit by falling in into a tub of sour way after this ale and his outer ornaments taken

03:50:11.200 off there were 12 ounces of gold in the spangles so what it's i think what it sounds like is it

03:50:20.800 when they hang the shields up above the the the tables while they were eating it fell and hit

03:50:27.280 the when they were eating their way and it broke and but it's still worth noting that they got

03:50:35.680 12 ounces of gold um out of just the fittings and little pieces

03:50:44.880 um

03:50:48.240 so we've got some folks that joined us in the chat in the last little bit here

03:50:55.760 i just want to say hi to the folks that made it over here to join i think we have a whole lot of

03:51:00.880 people listening and viewing we don't have a lot of action in the chat room but i think

03:51:07.920 it's not really a i don't know it's kind of story time was fun i don't think that's

03:51:13.680 necessarily such a bad thing this is a really cool story but i wanted to acknowledge the folks that

03:51:20.400 folks that have come in and join us um

03:51:27.760 yeah this

03:51:30.880 We get some of the longer poems in this section and just previously that we see in the saga.

03:51:45.460 And it's interesting because he has time to think and make long poems.

03:51:57.480 It's not like he's quickly coming up with something clever, and sometimes he is, but through loss and through sad reminiscence, he's able to put together these very long laments, I guess you would call them, specifically the one about his son,

03:52:22.200 and also the one in praise of Arnbjorn and his deeds.

03:52:29.480 But it's interesting to watch the transition that we've seen

03:52:31.820 over the last few chapters of Eil into an old man back at home,

03:52:40.500 not roving and adventuring, but going into a different stage of his life

03:52:45.520 where people are coming to him, where he's a man of note

03:52:48.320 that people are coming to consult as opposed to him out, you know, traveling the wide world.

03:53:00.360 So I appreciate it. You have been reading like a powerhouse tonight.

03:53:04.000 I'm trying to make up for last week.

03:53:06.920 It was good. It was good for me to get a chance last week to flex it a little bit.

03:53:10.940 Reading in front of people is certainly different if you're not used to it.

03:53:15.160 yeah all my public speaking classes are coming out now many many years later

03:53:21.760 no that's awesome it's awesome that you've taken those um

03:53:25.960 it's something i think people in this day and age don't get to do as much

03:53:30.500 when i was looking at that last verse um uh of of in which

03:53:45.160 There is, I don't know, the mentioning there of Hela as the sister of Loki, and I'm looking at the translation there, because that's just really interesting to me.

03:54:00.340 But as I'm looking at it more, I'm, you know, I'm not, it's not making a lot of sense.

03:54:15.160 just by the way it's written and sometimes i wonder if yeah loki's sister daughter doesn't

03:54:22.220 actually that sounds like something loki would do anyway yeah well because and and the the the

03:54:31.980 direct translation in which he speaks of that um it does mention hell but he says it's not in the

03:54:41.460 sense that uh of um hogan's captive but he says no to hell like to her deeds her will i wait

03:54:51.660 not i don't know i'm gonna have to look more into that that's just super interesting to me um

03:54:59.900 looking at those last three uh stanzas

03:55:06.100 because they kind of go one for one i see there when they're referring to um friend of mimir and

03:55:16.440 then um you know i as i'm going down and then i don't see any mention of in the old norse as her

03:55:27.060 being mentioned as a sister but he says no instead i i bid and wait for hell's bidding

03:55:34.400 because at the end he says here uh sculpt though uh glather mev godin vilja

03:55:40.480 or ory ory girl heliar be the hell hell's bidding um and i wait for it so i don't know that's very

03:55:53.440 interesting and again for folks that like don't know we don't we don't prep for these shows and

03:55:58.880 it's been a very long time since i've read ale saga so i'm reading it right now with you guys

03:56:06.480 as well it's so yeah

03:56:16.800 um and that puts us where exactly are we on now um i believe we're starting 79 in the version

03:56:27.120 you're looking at and i also note i just looked up because you mentioned the 12 ounces of gold they

03:56:33.520 got in modern money that 12 ounces of gold will be 32 000 as of today now obviously it's probably

03:56:42.320 worth a totally different amount back then but that's a lot of money still yeah yeah and especially

03:56:47.920 considering that most of the monetary wealth was done in silver silver was a far more prominent

03:56:55.040 coinage um gold was you know very highly valued um and was oftentimes not even minted into coin

03:57:06.560 but simply weighed uh which is again why they reference the weight and uh you know a lot of

03:57:14.560 our ancestors would carry around scales and break apart jewelry or some jewelry was even

03:57:19.760 meant to be broken apart in order to add to the weights of things so and we see here now

03:57:28.160 a kind of shift this is clearly after the death of of ale's son bodvar that he it it shifts the tone

03:57:39.520 shifts there's two great poems that are kind of released out there one of deep sorrow and then

03:57:46.160 the other of great praise to arden bjorn and even a little bit to eric there um but

03:57:53.840 yeah the tone of it completely begins to shift as we this is definitely like the descending

03:58:00.640 part of the saga

03:58:02.560 um chapter 79 of thorstein ailsson so this is ale skallagrimson's son and his children

03:58:16.720 thorstein ailsson when he grew up was a most handsome man white-haired bright-faced tall he

03:58:27.360 was and strong yet not so much as his father thorstein was wise gentle quiet of temper and

03:58:35.440 calm above other men ale loved him little nor was thorstein affectionate towards his father

03:58:42.560 but ausgerder and thorstein loved each other dearly ale was now beginning to age much so this

03:58:50.560 is not so much his beloved son um for you know reasons really not fully specified um

03:59:02.720 but his him and his mother were very very close

03:59:08.080 one summer thorstein rode to the all think but ale sat at home before thorstein left home he

03:59:16.640 and ausger that managed to take from ale ale's chest without his knowledge the silken robe that

03:59:23.520 was given to him by his friend arnbjorn that silk robe with the gold buttons and thorstein took it to

03:59:30.160 the thing but when he wore it at the thing it trailed behind him and because became soiled

03:59:36.400 at the hem as they were going to the hills or of laws so first off going to the all thing and

03:59:45.600 wearing brightly colored clothing clothing of great you know skill and ornament um and not

03:59:54.640 wearing shoulder pelts not wearing you know charcoal face paint um and uh you know

04:00:05.920 looking like a clown you know that's not the way our ancestors rolled it was it was about

04:00:11.360 dressing seemly and being um presentable and um you know showing that you had the ability

04:00:22.880 even so much so that i and i think in this case too which is going to cause some issues but

04:00:28.280 thorstein's like no i'm my dad's not going to wear it i'm going up to the l thing i'm going

04:00:33.440 to take that thing because he you know he knew about it and i'm going to wear it and show up

04:00:38.520 you know dressed to the nines um but he gets it dirty because they're going up the hills

04:00:46.680 to climb up to where they'll recite the laws and when he came home i was scared of there put the

04:00:51.960 robe back in the chest where it was before long after when ale opened his chest he found that the

04:00:57.720 robe was spoiled and questioned aska that about how it had come about she told him the truth and ale

04:01:04.920 spoke thus him from him who from me inherits i hold no worthy heir a son deceives me living

04:01:16.360 deceit i call this deed well might he wave horse rider wait but a while till me sea skimming

04:01:25.640 shipman cover with shroud of piled stones so he says that i'm near death and my son

04:01:34.520 doesn't have either the the gall to just ask me to use it and he's already taking the stuff that

04:01:42.680 he will inherit before i'm dead and so again we see a commonality here that i think is very relatable

04:01:50.040 families and and such fighting over you know inheritance and so on and so forth um and he

04:01:59.180 took this as that slight i think he took this as like this is going to be inherited by him

04:02:03.680 and he can't even wait for me to be covered in stones and dead he's got to take my stuff um

04:02:11.020 so thorstein married yov reader daughter of gunnar uh son of leaf her mother was helga daughter of

04:02:28.180 all of felon sister of thor geller your your reader had before been the wife of thorod the

04:02:37.700 son of tongue on so they do this in sagas to kind of give people place maps of where they come from

04:02:49.220 and um you know obviously your yov yov reader um uh had been married once before but that marriage

04:03:02.420 i think was by death that you know with um thorod that he had died and so she marries uh thorstein

04:03:11.540 who is the son of ale and soon after this marriage ausgerder dies the mother of thorstein and bodvar

04:03:20.580 ale's wife after her death ale gave up his housekeeping to thorstein and went south to

04:03:28.260 moss fell to grim his son-in-law for he loved thortis his stepdaughter most of all who was

04:03:36.580 that's where she was living one summer a ship came out and put into loam bay and steered by a man named

04:03:47.060 thor mod he was norwegian a house carl of thorstein thorison he was to take with him a shield

04:03:56.260 which Thorstein had sent to Eil Skalagrimson.

04:04:00.680 It was a valuable treasure.

04:04:03.080 Thormav brought Eil the shield and he received it with thanks.

04:04:08.480 In the following winter, he composed a poem about the gift of the shield

04:04:14.720 and it is called Buckler Poem.

04:04:17.700 And this is its beginning.

04:04:21.040 List to the stream of ley from long-haired Odin flowing.

04:04:26.260 Fain of a king and bid thy folk do silence keep for thee, sea raven's ruler, reigned from the eagle's beak, full oft shall shower of song in Hortha's shore he heard.

04:04:41.860 so and i find this interesting because they only quote the beginning but again um

04:04:51.100 thorstein thor's son back in norway was with him when he was going to um

04:05:00.040 and we spoken of earlier i think when he went to varmalan so a good friend finally kind of

04:05:07.660 sending something kind of speaking of his wealth and not forgetting ale thorstein ale son uh dwelt

04:05:17.600 at uh björg he had two illegitimate sons rivla and raffen and after his marriage he and uh your

04:05:29.460 your brother had 10 children so most likely what the illegitimate meaning too is that

04:05:36.400 he had children before wedlock so they were not legitimate by law through marriage um

04:05:45.980 uh and again too i i wonder about some of that stuff like how that comes about

04:05:52.060 um you know does their mother get taken away or she leaves or you know her family takes her away

04:05:58.700 and then the kids are there and he ends up raising them but after he he marries uh yavri there they

04:06:04.920 end up having 10 children um helga the fair was their daughter she about whom quarreled scald

04:06:15.080 and gunlow worm tongue um grim was their eldest son their second was scully the third was thorgir

04:06:24.920 the fourth was col swain the fifth was your labor the sixth hall the seventh ale

04:06:33.800 the the eight thore and the other daughters were thora who was named to thormund klepjarn's son

04:06:43.080 from thorstein's children sprang a large progeny and many great men

04:06:47.640 and they became known as miramen all those that sprang from skallagrim

04:06:53.240 chapter 80

04:07:00.600 steinar grazed his cattle on thorstein's land

04:07:05.680 anuncioni dwelt in anbraca remember anund was that

04:07:11.640 big icelander who who went about viking with ale while ale dwelt at uh uh björg

04:07:22.240 Aunund married Thorgerðr's daughter of Thorbjörn the Stout, of Snæfelsrand. The children of Aunund and his wife were a son, one named Steinar, the daughter Dalla. And when Aunund grew old and his sight was dim, then he gave up the housekeeping to his son Steinar.

04:07:44.880 father and son had much wealth and steinar was above other men tall and strong ill-favored

04:07:52.560 he was though with a stoop long in the legs short in his body he was very a quarrelsome man

04:08:00.340 feminine overbearing obstinate a headstrong fellow and when thorstein ale's son came to dwell at

04:08:09.320 there was at once a coolness between him and Steinar. South of Hofsbrück lies a moor called

04:08:18.240 Stockmoor. In winter, this is underwater, but in spring, when the ice breaks, such good grazing

04:08:25.700 there is for cattle there that it was deemed equal to stacked hay. Hofsbrück, by old custom,

04:08:33.940 marked the boundary but in spring steinar's cattle encroached much on the stack more when driven out

04:08:41.540 uh to havesbrook and thorstein's housecarls complained of it so now thorstein ale's son

04:08:50.260 is getting complaints from his men that steinar um another who his father was a friend of ale's

04:08:59.140 is driving their cattle too close onto their land um

04:09:07.540 but in the second spring steinar continued to take that pasturage wherefore thorstein spoke

04:09:13.300 with him about it but quietly asking him to control the grazing of his cattle has been the

04:09:19.460 old usage steinar said that the cattle should go where they would he spoke on the whole matter with

04:09:25.780 obstinacy and he and thorstein had words about it thorstein then had the cattle turned back

04:09:32.820 to the moor beyond hafsbrook this when steinar knew he charged grani his thrall to sit by the

04:09:40.900 cattle on stack moor and he sat there every day this was in the latter part of the summer

04:09:47.460 all the pastures south of hospital had been grazed by them so a lot of the pasturage of the cattle

04:09:54.900 would not be watched they would just meander and go but he was saying you need to have a man

04:10:01.380 keep your cattle away from that that's on my land and when he chased the cattle away he didn't

04:10:09.700 steal them or kill them or do anything he just chased them back into steinar's land steiner had

04:10:15.140 one of his thralls stay there um kind of as a sense to keep them wherever they wanted to go 0.63

04:10:23.540 and to report or kind of also could be bait in a lot of ways uh for a thrall to be there

04:10:30.340 because killing a thrall of another person over disputes like this

04:10:35.380 was common and often led to a lot of litigations and even feuds

04:10:42.420 um now as it happened one day thorstein had mounted a knoll to look around so he goes up on

04:10:49.780 a hill and there he sees steinar's cattle are moving out went on to the moor it was late in

04:10:56.340 the day he saw that the cattle had now come far out on the fenny hollow thorstein ran out on the

04:11:03.540 moor and when granny the thrall saw that he drove the cattle away a pace till they came to the

04:11:10.740 milking shed thorstein followed and he and granny met at the gate thorstein was so angry at this

04:11:20.740 grazing in his land that he slew him and it was and it has been called grani's gate

04:11:29.700 since and it is in the wall of that enclosure thorstein pulled down the wall over grani and 0.51

04:11:36.580 covered his body and then he went home back to dark but the women who came to milking in the

04:11:42.900 shed there found grani's body where he lay after that they carried him home to the house

04:11:48.980 and told steinar what they had found steinar buried him up on the hillside and soon got to

04:11:55.620 got another thrall to go with the cattle whose name is not told thorstein made it made as though

04:12:03.700 he knew nothing about what had happened in the pasture for the remaining of the summer

04:12:09.940 so now the tensions are starting to build um and again just as i spoke many a story starts with

04:12:17.940 a thrall being told to do something he's doing it and the other landowners like

04:12:25.540 black so um it now happened that steinar in the early part of the winter went out

04:12:33.700 to sneifelstrand and stayed there a while there he saw a thrall named thrond who was tall and strong

04:12:41.940 above other men steinar wished to buy him bid a large but his owner valued him as three marks of

04:12:50.420 silver which was twice the price of a common thrall and at this sum the bargain was made

04:12:57.220 steinar took thrond home with him and when they came to the home he then spoke then spoke steinar

04:13:03.540 to thrond now stan matters so that i will have you have work for you but as all the work is already

04:13:10.580 arranged i will put you on a task of but little trouble you shall sit by my cattle

04:13:17.940 i make a great point of their being well kept at the pasture i would have you go by no man's rule

04:13:25.380 but my own take them wherever the pasture on the moor is best i am no judge of a man's look

04:13:31.620 if you have not uh have not courage and strength enough to hold your own against any house carl

04:13:37.780 of thorstein's so don't listen to anyone but me go up there and so now there's again trouble is a

04:13:46.260 brewing steinar delivered into thron's hand a very large axe whose blade was an l long now that i

04:13:55.860 don't know the measurements of an l i don't know if if you could look that up um nick about

04:14:07.780 an l in length but it was i'm you know again a an axe or a long beard axe for me uh ell 0.89

04:14:19.860 1.25 yards oh damn 40 45 inches yep wow 0.97

04:14:27.140 um 0.98

04:14:32.580 okay it wasn't strange english units kind of like uh you know they do stone and all that yeah

04:14:40.420 so i mean and that's that 45 inch long i mean that's a that is a long freaking axe

04:14:47.940 like a max blade so i'm assuming too it's probably a long bearded axe um

04:14:58.020 steiner delivered into bronze hands a large axe whose blade was one l long and as keen as a razor

04:15:05.780 this i think of you thrond said steiner that you would not regard the priesthood of thorstein

04:15:13.700 if you two were to face to face what he's saying here priesthood is again the usage of the word

04:15:21.540 word go thee as a land owner and a law speaker and a priest kind of get interchangeable and you

04:15:30.600 can kind of see this in the um translation here he's saying not specifically his priesthood but

04:15:38.640 his land ownership as a lord do not regard his lordship if you come face to face is basically

04:15:46.080 he's saying and throne answers no duty do i as i deem oh to thorstein and he thinks i understand

04:15:54.160 what work you would have laid before me you think you risk little where i am and i believe i shall

04:16:00.240 come well out of it if i and thorstein try our strength together so basically what he's saying is

04:16:07.280 i think that you're bidding that you might give me my freedom if thorstein shows up and tries to

04:16:13.600 move the cattle you want me to fight him and i think i'll win and that would be beneficial for

04:16:21.920 me right you know and so that's kind of the arrangement that they're kind of laying out here

04:16:28.480 um after this thrand took charge of the cattle he understood air he had been long there whether

04:16:35.520 steiner had his cattle taken and he sat by them on stack more when thorstein was aware of this he

04:16:42.160 sent a housecarl to seek thrond bidding him tell thrond that the boundary between his land

04:16:48.160 and steinar when the housecarl came to thrand he told him his errand and bade him to take his cattle

04:16:56.400 out of their land saying that the land on which they were belonged to thorsten ailsson

04:17:01.920 thrand said i care not a jot who owns the land i'll take the cattle where i think the pasture is

04:17:09.120 best then they parted and the house carl went home and told him of the thrall's answer thorstein

04:17:17.680 let the matter rest and thrand took to sitting by the cattle night and day so he doesn't act right

04:17:25.840 away chapter 81 the slaying of thrand and the preparation of the lawsuit

04:17:35.040 so one morning thorstein raises rose up with the sun and went up on the hill he saw there

04:17:43.440 steinar's cattle then went thorstein out onto the moor till he came to the cattle there stands a

04:17:51.120 wood clad rock of huffs brook upon this thrond was laying asleep um when they say a wood clad rock

04:18:00.880 they're most likely probably talking about like a standing stone or a kind of like either a small

04:18:10.580 shelter or a place in which kind of like designates markings of where the land is and he's

04:18:18.400 asleep there and he's taken off his shoes Thorstein mounted the rock he had in his hand a very small

04:18:26.380 axe and no other weapon and with the shaft of the axe he poked thrand and and bade him to wake up

04:18:34.380 up he jumped swiftly and suddenly and grabbed his axe in both hands and raised it aloft and asked

04:18:40.300 thorstein what he wanted he replied i wish to tell you that this land is mine and yours is the

04:18:46.860 pasture on the other side of the brook it is no wonder if you do not yet know the landmarks here

04:18:54.860 he's basically giving him kind of a kindness you're a new slave to uh steinar and you might

04:19:01.660 not know where the landmarks are you're over there um and thus fran said it makes no odds to

04:19:09.740 me who owns the land i shall let the cattle be where they please tis likely said thorstein

04:19:17.340 that i shall wish myself and not steinar's thrall to rule my land so you want to you know

04:19:24.860 take the cattle where you see where you wish. And I wish that the thralls of my neighbor don't 1.00

04:19:30.420 dictate what I do on my land. So now we're starting to get into kind of some Yellowstone,

04:19:35.460 which again, I haven't seen that, that, uh, that the seasons or the episodes, but I know enough

04:19:43.580 just by kind of peeking in on YouTube, there's a lot of this kind of the very same ilk of, uh,

04:19:52.060 you know land ownership i read an interesting article about why yellowstone was so popular

04:19:58.060 it's because it went back to the sagas of the icelanders and the land wars in england

04:20:04.220 and like how thanes protected their land and stuff so we're kind of getting that here

04:20:10.220 um

04:20:13.020 yeah so he says i don't want you know thralls of my neighbor to rule my own land 0.98

04:20:20.400 you are a far more foolish man Thorstein than I judged you to be if you will take night quarters 0.98

04:20:27.280 under my axe and for this risk your honors he thinks from what I see I have twice your strength 1.00

04:20:34.660 nor lack I courage and better weaponed I am also than you Thorstein Thorstein replied

04:20:41.700 that risk I shall run if you do not as I say about the pasture I hope that our good fortune

04:20:49.540 may differ much as does the justice of our cause thran said now shall you see thorstein whether i

04:20:58.500 at all fear your threats and with that fran sat down and tied his shoe but thorstein raised his

04:21:07.220 axe quickly and smote on thrans neck so that his hell his head fell forward onto his own breast

04:21:16.100 then Thorstein heaped stones over him covered his body which done he went back home so yeah 0.84

04:21:27.140 brave but not smart you don't you know tie your shoes for a fight 0.74

04:21:34.940 if you're talking smack you don't take a minute to pump up your kicks

04:21:38.900 go right into it and like let me take off my shirt thing right but that's the that's the

04:21:50.180 best time if you want to finish it quick yeah all right let's fight dude starts taking off 0.68

04:21:57.020 his shirt that's oh yeah that's when you just you know and drive him into the ground

04:22:04.040 that was one of the things that is this varies by jurisdiction but that is

04:22:11.640 in many places a completely appropriate time to hit them because that in and of itself

04:22:18.200 is a clear telegraphing of you know that's as if they start to swing on you

04:22:23.000 that's a clear enough like okay they tried they started it now i'm defending myself

04:22:29.320 well and that's another thing that you said too just uh by the defending of yourself this

04:22:37.200 story obviously thrond isn't gonna tell his version of the story this saga is built around

04:22:45.620 the after effect of what kind of happened so i mean i'm not saying that that didn't happen this

04:22:54.260 way but yeah it's so human like where you see these guys like let me get off my you know let

04:23:00.260 me get my jacket off or something like that and that if you're taking time to do that that's when

04:23:04.800 you're gonna get that's the biggest strange aside but don't 1.00

04:23:12.620 you do stupid things when you 0.99

04:23:18.240 telegraph your intention to use deadly force on someone and then you decide to do something else 1.00

04:23:26.340 other than do that they can't afford to sit around and you know wait i was kidding was he 0.97

04:23:33.820 serious what's he that's i've seen a lot of people make those kind of dumb mistakes of

04:23:41.280 threatening to do something and then hesitating and then reaping the consequences

04:23:47.820 well and i like too that they because he said he had a smaller axe

04:23:53.860 so it didn't cleave his head off but just cut it to where it was dangling onto his chest

04:24:01.440 so on that day steinar's cattle were late coming home

04:24:10.840 and when there seemed no hope of them coming home steinar took his horse and saddled it fully armed

04:24:17.260 himself because he knew this was uh he set thrand out there as bait he then rode to to borg and when

04:24:26.620 he came there he found men to speak to and asked where thorstein was it was told to him that he

04:24:33.340 was sitting within. Then Steinar asked that he should come out. He had, he said, an errand with

04:24:41.280 him, which when Thorstein heard, he took his weapons and went out the door. Then he asked

04:24:52.140 steinar what his errand was have you slain thrond my my thrall asked steinar truly i have said

04:25:03.100 thorstein you need not put that upon any other man then i see said steinar that you mean to guard

04:25:12.040 your land with a strong hand since you have slain two of my thralls yet methinks that this is no

04:25:18.880 great exploit now will i offer you in this a far better choice if you wish to guard your land by

04:25:26.080 force i shall not trust other men with driving of my cattle but be you sure of this the cattle

04:25:33.200 shall be on my land both night and day so it is said thorstein that i slew the last summer

04:25:42.240 your thrall as well whom you set to feed cattle on my land but afterwards let you have the feed

04:25:50.640 as you would up to the winter now i've slain another thrall of yours for the same fault as

04:25:57.840 the former again you shall have to feed from now through the summer as you will but next summer 0.98

04:26:05.280 if you feed on my land and set men to drive your cattle in then i will go on slaying for you

04:26:12.800 every man that tends them though it be though even if it is be yourself i will act this every summer

04:26:22.240 while you hold to the manner of grazing on my land then steinar rode away and went home to brecca

04:26:30.480 And a little while after Steinar rode up to Stavarholt, where Einar dwelt, he was a priest, Steinar asked his help and offered him money. Einar said, you will gain little by my help unless more men of honor back you in this cause.

04:26:48.980 After that, Steinar rode up to Reykjardel to see Tung Ad and asked him for his help and offered him money.

04:26:58.680 Ad took the money and promised him help.

04:27:01.180 He was to strengthen Steinar to take the law of Thorstein.

04:27:05.880 Then Steinar rode home.

04:27:07.400 So, again, I think this is another usage of priest and go the, or like land owner.

04:27:13.860 except that he may know the law by speaking that's another elevation of the word godi

04:27:22.620 there's the godi landowner there's the godi law speaker and then there's the godi

04:27:28.740 priest the one who who uh conducts rites and these are kind of all interchangeable um and

04:27:37.320 it's not well known whether or not these people fulfill all of these roles and that's the only

04:27:43.160 reason why i'm bringing it up is because you know i don't want people to read it and think that like

04:27:48.600 every godi was a a a minister of truth to the gods sometimes it was used to mean a landowner

04:27:59.620 i mean that's how the the name became more and more mundane as um uh years went on in iceland

04:28:08.740 to where it just meant a landowner so you're starting to see that transition and he's going

04:28:15.940 to know too that folks may not be familiar with is at this time and with their breaking away from

04:28:23.700 a more hierarchied society in norway it was the responsibility for the landowner to provide

04:28:31.780 the hof and if you're providing the hof and you're privately funding the hof

04:28:37.380 then you were expected to act as the gothi so your

04:28:42.980 district or region or whatever you were the gothi of and it became at this time like

04:28:52.500 not just a landowner but like the chief of a district you had to be the priest but you also

04:29:02.020 had you know you were they're kind of i guess oligarchy of nobility as it were there was the

04:29:12.820 district gothar as i understand it yeah and the law speakers and i think he went to a law speaker

04:29:20.580 specifically knowing that he this was going to end up going to the to the all thing

04:29:25.060 and tongue odd of course too is you know older and and pretty well renowned and is up near uh

04:29:37.280 in the spring odd and einar went with steinar and journey of some on the journey of summons

04:29:50.980 taking a large company, Steinar summoned Thorstein for thrall slaying and claimed lesser

04:29:58.820 outlawry as the penalty of each slaying, for this was the law. When thralls of anyone were slaying

04:30:07.840 and the fine for the thrall was not brought to the owner before the third sunrise, but two charges

04:30:15.300 of lesser outlawry were equivalent to one full outlawry thorstein thought no counter summons

04:30:22.500 on any charge brought no counter summons on any charge so basically if you kill the thrall and

04:30:30.340 again thralls were not i mean they're they're slaves but they were given weapons they were

04:30:35.700 given responsibilities the biggest thing was is that if you slayed one or got into a fight with

04:30:40.260 one it wasn't the same as killing a landowner or a landowner's family member and um if you didn't 0.53

04:30:47.780 pay the ware guild for that thrall's death after three nights then it was official that you were

04:30:54.900 now kind of breaking the law and um the uh for two of them half outlawry half outlawry equals

04:31:05.700 you got to leave Iceland

04:31:08.280 which would certainly benefit 1.00

04:31:12.760 and the idea is if you kill these 0.99

04:31:14.840 thralls unjustly 0.99

04:31:16.480 right

04:31:17.400 that's like you know if you are a free man

04:31:20.280 and you

04:31:20.700 stuff happens to go down

04:31:24.220 and thrall happens to die

04:31:25.800 then you pay the price to the

04:31:28.180 you know to the owner of the thrall

04:31:30.580 within those

04:31:32.260 three days and

04:31:33.260 you know it's it's smoothed over and if you don't this is the price you pay

04:31:39.460 it's not applicable if you you know it's a justified slaying of the thrall

04:31:45.740 yeah and again in this case too he was kind of tasked with killing thorsten um and of course

04:31:54.940 i think to his freedom was the ultimate carrot on that situation um

04:32:01.460 so as soon as soon after he sent men southward to ness who came to grim at moss fell and there

04:32:12.260 told their tidings ale did not show much interest about it so remember in moss fell ale moved down

04:32:19.540 there he left his main residence after his wife dies and he goes down to live at the house of his

04:32:27.700 uh niece or his brother's daughter who is um not even there she's not even actually blood

04:32:41.380 she's like the foster daughter but they they had got along well and ails down there in his old age

04:32:50.420 but he catches wind of all of this and he's he doesn't show much interest

04:32:55.300 he quietly learned by the questions that were being passed between thorstein and steinar

04:33:01.380 as also about those who had strengthened steinar's cause so now he learns about steinar going and

04:33:09.300 bidding um einar and odd to stand with him so now a case is starting to build um then the messengers

04:33:20.020 went home and thorstein appeared well pleased with his with their journey thorstein ale's son

04:33:25.700 took a numerous company to the spring tide the all thing he came there one night before other men

04:33:33.300 and they roofed their booths so they built these like you know tents like camping tents um and got

04:33:41.540 the roofs up and he and the thing men who had booths there and when they had made all their

04:33:48.420 arrangements thorstein bade his thingmen to set to work so the thingmen are his the men that will

04:33:56.420 stand with him at trial at the market and work for him so they're kind of like his thanes if you will

04:34:05.460 um and they built their large booth walls then he had roofed in a far larger booth than the other

04:34:13.540 that were there and in this booth were no men steinar rode to the thing also with a numerous

04:34:19.780 company as did tongue odd and einar of staverhold they roofed their booths the thing was a very full

04:34:28.500 one men pleaded their causes thorstein offered no atonement for himself but to those who advised

04:34:36.340 atonement made answer that he meant to abide by judgment he said that he thought the cause in

04:34:42.580 in which Steinar came about slaying of his, in which Steinar came and about the slaying of his

04:34:50.860 thralls was of little worth. Steinar's thralls, he argued, had done enough to deserve death.

04:34:57.760 Steinar was high and mighty about his cause. And he had, as he thought, good charges in the law

04:35:04.280 and helpers strong enough to win. So he was not impetuous in his cause. So basically he's just

04:35:11.900 stating yeah i killed them but they were on my land he was driving their cattle onto my land

04:35:18.380 and uh he kept doing it um that day men went to the thing uh brink they went up to the council

04:35:29.420 area and spoke their pleadings but in the evening the judges were to go out and try suits thorstein

04:35:36.140 was there with his train or his group of men his thingmen and he had their chief authority as to

04:35:44.620 the rules of the thing for so it had been a while ale held priesthood and headship both parties

04:35:52.620 were fully armed so now we've got two really big kind of powerful groups because they're

04:35:58.860 you know building uh the oath you know uh like representation around each other

04:36:09.760 and now it is it was seen from the thing that a troop of men was riding down along cleave river

04:36:18.220 with gleaming shields and when they rode into the thing they rode foremost a man in a blue mantle

04:36:25.100 He had on his head a gilded helm, and by his side a gold-decked shield, in his hand a barbed spear, whose socket was overlaid with gold, and a sword at his girdle.

04:36:42.820 thither had come ails ailskullagrimsons with 80 men all well weaponed as if arrayed for battle

04:36:54.420 a choice company it was so

04:36:59.140 he shows up with a sword a shield a spear all of like just beautiful craftsmanship like he's

04:37:07.540 he's going to war um ale had brought with him the best land owners

04:37:14.100 sons from southern nessus so down in the southern part south southwestern part of iceland

04:37:20.260 um those whom he thought were most warlike and with his troop ale rode to the booth in which

04:37:26.340 thorstein had roofed a booth hithro that was empty they dismounted and when thorstein perceived his

04:37:34.020 father coming he with all his troop went to meet him and bade him welcome ale and his force had

04:37:40.420 their traveling gear carried into the booth and their horses turned out to pasture with this done

04:37:46.500 ale and thorstein with their whole troop went up to the thing brink uh thing brink and sat them down

04:37:54.020 where they want to sit so ale's showing up for his son now he's not

04:38:00.500 didn't have much love for him but i mean this is ale skull of grimson he's even though he's old he's

04:38:11.460 still you know ready and willing to like let's you know let's settle this in any way we need to um

04:38:24.980 so then ale stood up and spoke with a loud voice

04:38:28.180 is onund sioni here on the thingbrink and onund replied that he was there now remember onund and

04:38:38.500 uh ale go way back and uh onund was a little bit older than ale so they're both on an age

04:38:46.540 and he says i i'm glad you've come here ale this will set right all the dispute here between these

04:38:53.960 men it is by your counsel said ale that your son steinar brings charges against my son thorstein

04:39:03.000 and has gathered much people to his end to make thorstein an outcast to basically kick him out

04:39:10.340 of the country of this i am not the cause said on on and he said i'm not the one pushing my son

04:39:19.080 to go against your son.

04:39:22.860 That they are quarreling,

04:39:25.160 I have spent many a word

04:39:27.460 and begged Steinar

04:39:28.640 to be reconciled with Thorstein.

04:39:32.140 For in any case,

04:39:33.420 I would have spared your son Thorstein disgrace.

04:39:36.760 And good cause for this

04:39:38.140 is the loving friendship of old

04:39:40.040 that has been between you and I,

04:39:42.220 Ael, since we grew up here

04:39:44.900 as next-door neighbors.

04:39:46.680 it will soon be clear said ale whether you speak the truth or vain words

04:39:53.160 though i think this latter can hardly be so he he's saying you know we're going to find out the

04:39:58.960 truth i don't think you're we're going to find out if you're lying but i want to believe that you

04:40:04.160 aren't um i remember the day when either of us had deemed it incredible that one should be accusing

04:40:13.840 the other or that we should not control our sons from going on with such a folly as i hear this

04:40:21.200 is like to prove to me this seems right counsel while we both live and are so nearly concerned

04:40:27.920 with their quarrel that we take this cause into our own hands and quash it let not tongue our tongue

04:40:35.680 odd and einar match our sons together to fighting like horses let them henceforth find some other

04:40:43.680 way than this of making money so he's basically saying that even though steinar went to beckon

04:40:50.640 these guys they have a lot to gain if there's you know a dispute between these two kind of younger

04:40:57.600 um landowners so then stood up onund and spoke rightly you say ale and it ill beseems us to be

04:41:07.040 at a thing where our sons are quarreling never shall the shame be ours that we lack the manhood

04:41:14.080 to reconcile them now steinar i will that you give this cause into my hands and let me deal with it

04:41:21.600 as i please i am not sure said steinar that i will so abandon my cause in essence he knows that his

04:41:32.960 father will not give him what he ultimately wants which is thorstein being kicked out

04:41:40.320 out of iceland in shame um for i have already sought me the help of great men

04:41:48.960 i will now only bring my cause to such an issue as shall content odd and einar then odd and and

04:41:57.040 steinar talked together and odd said this i will give you steinar the help that i promised towards

04:42:03.520 getting law or for such issue of the cause as you may consent to accept you will be mainly answerable

04:42:11.440 for how your cause goes if ale is to be the judge therein so it's kind of worth noting the politics

04:42:20.480 that goes on here is that when he brings in odd and einar as kind of bought um representatives

04:42:30.320 or or help um this kind of blows the whole thing up into a huge kind of our side their side the

04:42:42.720 south versus the north kind of is is brimming right here and uh onund and ale don't want

04:42:52.800 uh their sons to have this and then have odd and einar kind of come out on top um being kind of in

04:43:01.200 this now um whereupon onan said i need not leave this matter to the tongue of odd of him i had

04:43:12.000 neither good or bad but ale has done me much good i trust him far more than others and i shall have

04:43:19.360 my way in this it will be for your advantage not to have all of us on your hands i have hithro ruled

04:43:27.520 for us both and will do so still steinar said you are right eager about this cause father

04:43:34.320 But I think we shall off rue this. So he's trying to get Eil to be the judge and settle this. And of course, Eil is Thorstein's father.

04:43:52.160 So Steinar's guys are saying, don't do this.

04:43:56.740 He's going to rule in favor of his son.

04:43:59.560 And Onund is saying, no, he's going to rule in favor of everyone.

04:44:03.440 So we should let this happen.

04:44:11.640 After this, Steinar made over the cause to Onund to prosecute or compromise according to the law.

04:44:19.960 And no sooner had Anund the management of this cause than he went back to seek father and son, Thorstein and Eil.

04:44:28.320 Then said Anund, now I will, Eil, that you alone shape and shear in this matter as you will.

04:44:35.940 For I trust you best to deal with this, my cause, as with all others.

04:44:41.300 So, again, he's showing a great amount of trust.

04:44:45.260 And I think he already knows that Eil and Thorstein are not super close, but he's trying to view a way in which he thinks Eil will err on the side of law and correctness, and ultimately this will stop what could possibly be a feud, a huge feud between multiple houses.

04:45:07.240 um then thorstein and aunund took hands and named them witnesses declaring with all that

04:45:19.000 eoskala grimson should a long judge this cause uh so when they say to when they took hands they

04:45:25.720 they either slapped hands to make a deal which is like um kind of like how we give each other five

04:45:32.980 to take hands was a way of marking an agreement so they would slap hands and then they were named

04:45:40.460 as witnesses and they were given that ale was allowed to be the judge of this situation

04:45:45.560 um as he would without appeal and then and there at the thing and so ended this suit now men went

04:45:56.660 home to their booths thorstein had three oxen led to ale's booth and slaughtered for the thing

04:46:02.680 banquet so they're they're holding bloat and they uh they kill three oxen and then tongue odd and

04:46:11.400 steinar came home to their booth odd said now have you steinar and your father ruled the issue of

04:46:18.840 your suit i now declare myself free of debt to you steinar in regard of that help which i promised

04:46:26.040 you for it was agreed between us that i should help you and carrying through your suit or to such

04:46:33.480 issue as should content you free am i i say whatever may be the terms adjudged uh you by ale

04:46:41.720 steinar that odd had helped him well and manfully and their friendship should be closer than before

04:46:48.680 i pronounce you he said free of debt to me in regard where to you are bound so they

04:46:55.880 the oath uh einar comes um or excuse me tongue odd comes to steinar and says look

04:47:04.200 i promise to back you ale now has judgment um i you know i am free of my like obligation to you

04:47:16.600 and steinar says yeah you are free your oath is now complete uh you know we're going to go this

04:47:23.160 route and you're no longer you know held accountable to be here for me in the evening

04:47:29.400 the judges went out but nothing happened that needs to be told again the saga is kind of

04:47:37.320 read this way sometimes where it's just um

04:47:39.880 you know that nothing of of great note happened and so chapter 82 ails making of the settlement

04:47:51.400 so now we have a he's a rune master he's a warrior he's a land owner and now he's

04:48:00.600 a govi and a law speaker so he's really just hitting all of the the high marks as far as

04:48:09.400 um especially in the social strata of the day the next day a skala grimson went to the thing brink

04:48:17.400 and with him thorstein and all their party

04:48:22.280 thither came also on and steiner tongue odd and einar and his company and when the law pleadings

04:48:30.040 were finished then stood up ale and spoke thus are steiner and almond father and son present so

04:48:38.040 that they can hear my words on an answered yes that they were then will i said ale deliver my

04:48:45.160 judgment between steinar and thorstein i began the cause with this grim my father came to this island

04:48:54.440 and took to him here all the land and mirror and the district round about and chose him a homestead

04:49:00.680 at door and assigned a parcel of land there too but gave to his friends choice of land outside the

04:49:07.400 same in which they have since settled to ani he gave the homestead anabreka where onund and steinar

04:49:16.840 were hither though dwelt we all know this steinar what are the landmarks between bork and anabreka

04:49:26.120 that the chief one is hasbro now therefore not from ignorance steinar did you act in grazing

04:49:34.280 over the brook onto Thorstein's land. Steinar and you, Anand, might know that Ani received the land

04:49:43.540 of my father Grimm, but you encroached on his land thinking that he would be so degenerate

04:49:50.240 as to tamely submit to your robbery. But Thorstein slew two thralls of yours.

04:49:57.180 now it is evident to all these to uh to all that these died for their ill deeds and are therefore 0.87

04:50:05.780 unatonable nay even had they been freemen yet had they been unatonable so even if they were

04:50:15.440 freemen what they did was they clearly crossed the marker and broke a law no fine could have

04:50:22.060 been claimed for them either but as for you steinar seeing that you devised to rob my son

04:50:28.040 thorstein of his property which he took with my authority and i took by inheritance from my father

04:50:35.840 you shall therefore lose your land at anabreca and have no payment for the same and further

04:50:43.400 you shall have neither homestead nor lodgment in the district in the south of the long river

04:50:49.340 And you must quit Annabreca before flitting days are passed, else may you immediately after flitting days be slain without punishment by any who wish to help Thorstein, if you refuse to go away or break any of these terms that I have pronounced for you.

04:51:09.860 But when Eil sat down, then Thorstein named witnesses to his decision.

04:51:18.540 Then spoke Aonan's Sioni.

04:51:22.540 It will be said, Eil, that this judgment which you have given and pronounced is very crooked.

04:51:28.500 so now Aounen laid in Aeol's hands kind of more of a meted out judgment and Aeol was like no

04:51:40.500 he broke the law he went into that land we know the brook is the is the thing he kept going he

04:51:46.900 did it twice he's a crook and Aounen is now kind of regretting I think his decision and he says

04:51:55.840 you know your your decision is crooked and what i what i have to say hithro i have done all i could 0.87

04:52:02.000 to prevent strife but henceforth i should not spare to do what i can to harm thorstein this

04:52:08.480 i forebode said a eagle that longer our coral lasts the worse will be the fortune on you and

04:52:15.780 your son i thought you must must have known almond that i have held my own before men

04:52:22.560 quite as great as are you and and your son but for odd and for einar who have so eagerly thrust

04:52:30.620 themselves into this cause they have reaped their their from due honor so he says you know i i will

04:52:40.060 protect my kin uh even from as great of men as you but he's basically standing by your son sent

04:52:48.740 people onto my son's land twice and the second time um was even more so of a of a of an edging

04:52:58.920 towards strife and conflict so now he's going to you know kick him off that land and he's doing it

04:53:08.040 through the fact that his father was the one that kind of parceled out all those lands

04:53:12.720 um chapter 83 steinar lays in wait for thorstein

04:53:20.660 so thorgyr blond was there at the thing a uh thorgyr is ale's sister's son

04:53:32.500 he had given thorstein much help in his suit he begged father and son to give him some land

04:53:39.420 out there on the moors.

04:53:41.600 Hithro, he had dwelt south of the White River, 0.64

04:53:44.800 below Blund's water. 1.00

04:53:46.420 Eil received the request well

04:53:47.840 and persuaded Thorstein to let him come thither. 0.99

04:53:50.600 So they settled Thorgir at Annabreker.

04:53:55.320 So now basically Eil is going to give his sister's son

04:53:59.440 the land that Steinar owned.

04:54:04.900 But Steinar moved house beyond Long River.

04:54:08.280 so it's decreed the law is there steinar picks up his house and all of his folk and they move

04:54:16.920 um beyond the long river and settle in lyra brook but ale rode home southward to ness

04:54:25.160 father and son parted on friendly terms

04:54:30.280 there was a man with thorstein named iri he was fleet of foot keen of sight above others he was

04:54:37.400 a foreigner a freedman of thorstein's but still had the care of his flocks and especially to gather

04:54:46.200 the weathers up to the fell in the spring and in autumn down to the fold so iri um being a foreigner

04:54:54.040 he could be irish scottish english um french you know there's not a lot to go on with his name

04:55:04.920 uh being as it was but he was a thrall who was freed by thorstein and has made his life there

04:55:12.440 and now works as one of thorstein's men as a freed man

04:55:19.080 um now after flitting days thorstein bade gather the the the weathers that had been

04:55:25.800 left behind in the spring meaning to have them driven to the fell so now he's going to go out

04:55:30.920 and get all of the loose herds and bring them back um but thorstein and his house corals rode up to

04:55:40.120 the fell being eight men in all thorstein was having a fence made across griser's tongue

04:55:47.400 between long water and the cleave river at which many of his men were employed in the spring so

04:55:52.840 the big construction job building this fence and after inspecting his house carl's work there

04:55:59.000 he rode homewards now as he came over against the thing field eddie came running up to meet him

04:56:06.120 and said that he wished to speak to thorstein alone thorstein bade his companions to ride on

04:56:11.320 while they spoke and eddie said he had gone up to einkunner uh that day and looked to the sheep

04:56:19.320 but what i saw in the wood above the winter road the gleam of 12 spears and shields

04:56:26.120 then thorstein said in a loud voice so that his companions could hear

04:56:32.040 why can he be in such a hurry to see me that i may not ride on my own home on my uh my way home

04:56:39.480 however alwald will think it strange that i refuse him the visit if he is sick

04:56:47.240 it he ran up to the fell as fast as he could thorstein said to his companions i think we must

04:56:53.160 lengthen our way for we must first ride south to alvested alvalds send me word and i am to get i'm

04:57:01.800 going to go to him and we so now he's starting to direct he's reacting to this um and he's kind of

04:57:08.680 keeping things under wraps because he doesn't quite know exactly who this is though he has a

04:57:14.440 pretty good mind of it alvald sent me word and i'm going to go to him and he will think it no more

04:57:21.560 than a fair return for the ox that he gave me last summer that i should go and see him if he deems the

04:57:28.120 matter important whereupon thorstein with his company rode south by the moor above stangerholt

04:57:34.920 and so on south to guva river and down along the river by riding path and when they came down below

04:57:41.480 the lake they saw south of the river uh of the river man excuse me uh south of the river um

04:57:52.520 cattlemen or cattle and the men with them he was the house carl of alwald's thorstein asked whether

04:58:01.720 all was well there and he said that that all was well and that alvold was in the

04:58:07.560 cops cutting wood for fire he said then tell him said thorstein if he has an urgent errand with me

04:58:16.360 to come to borg for i now ride home and so he did it was afterwards learned that steinar with 11 more

04:58:24.600 had lain an ambush in einkonnen the same day thorstein made as though he had heard not of it

04:58:31.320 and things remained quiet so he basically tells his men no we're going to go south i need to go

04:58:37.160 talk to this guy and so they deviate away from and where the ambush is but he's playing like

04:58:48.600 he doesn't know anything like it was just happenstance that he went in another direction

04:58:54.520 and their ambush wasn't met um and this gives him again the ability to get home without a fight

04:59:01.560 that he's not prepared for and now he knows something's afoot

04:59:09.160 chapter 84 thorstein makes steinar go away i just the translations are so funny um

04:59:18.360 there was a man named Thorgir, a kinsman and a friend of Thorstein. He dwelt in swanness.

04:59:27.520 Thorgir was wont to have a harvest feast every autumn. So it sounds like Thorgir is 0.99

04:59:34.720 pious to the gods and is ought to having a harvest feast. We call it winter finding,

04:59:45.020 Or it could be more like Freyfaxi, depending on if it's late summer or early winter.

04:59:50.700 Or sometimes it's referred to as Hausting.

04:59:54.700 But he wants, you know, he's apt to have this feast in the autumn.

04:59:59.480 So he went to Thorstein Eilson and asked him to his house.

05:00:05.500 Thorstein promised to come and Thorgir went home.

05:00:08.200 But on the appointed day, Thorstein made him ready to go.

05:00:11.820 uh it wanted them four weeks of uh wanted then four weeks of winter with thorstein

05:00:19.620 went an easterling his guest and two house carls okay so this is interesting too the easterling

05:00:28.740 um

05:00:29.940 you know the idea of of an easterling what that could mean i don't know if this means someone

05:00:39.320 of the east in iceland or someone in the east perhaps in scandinavia like a fin um or you know

05:00:49.000 i i don't think this means someone of like the orient or anything of that nature um but it's

05:00:57.320 just interesting this uh the terminology that is uh you know mentioned here that an a foreigner

05:01:05.400 an eastling a guest in his house and two house carls there was a son of thorstein named grim

05:01:13.960 who was then only 10 years old he too went with thorstein thus they were five in all and they

05:01:20.280 rode out to foss to the falls there they crossed the long river and then out as the road lay to

05:01:27.880 auri the river on the outer bank of that river steinar was at work and on his father and their

05:01:35.960 house carls when they perceived thorstein they ran for their weapons and they pursued the party

05:01:43.080 on seeing steinar's pursuit they rode outside longhold there was a hillock high and bare of wood

05:01:50.760 thorstein's party dismounted there and climbed to the hillock thorstein bade that the boy grim

05:01:57.000 go into the wood and not be present for the fight he says just ride on into the into the um

05:02:04.200 copse of trees you need to get out of here there's going to be blood and i don't want

05:02:08.600 you here you're just a kid um as soon as steinar and his company came to the hillock

05:02:15.640 they set upon thorstein's party and there was a fight there where in steinar's band

05:02:22.760 six grown men in all and a seventh was steinar's son he who was 10 years old now

05:02:32.600 yeah that's i mean interesting that that the 10-year-old that gets to leave and then steinar

05:02:38.840 has his 10-year-old son with him but it does it is also worth mentioning too that like adulthood

05:02:45.240 was kind of seen around 15 like a man young man would go a viking in between 15 to 18 years old

05:02:54.200 so this is that that gray zone at 10. um this uh let's see this encounter was seen by those

05:03:03.720 who were on the meadows from other farms and they ran to part them so they they started to ride up

05:03:09.560 there to try to separate them but by the time they were parted both thorstein's house carls

05:03:15.160 had lost their lives one house carl of steinar's had fallen and seven several were already wounded

05:03:23.560 after they were separated thorstein sought for grim and they found him he was in the woods but

05:03:29.480 and and sorely wounded while steinar's son lay there by him dead and when thorstein leapt on his

05:03:38.120 horse then steinar called after him you run now thorstein the white and thorstein answered you

05:03:44.840 shall run further ere a week be out then thorstein with his company rode out over the moor taking

05:03:52.600 with them the boy grim and when they came to the holt that is there the boy died so he was

05:04:00.200 he was wounded not by environment but i guess somebody oh or actually sorry i believe the

05:04:07.240 young boy went after the other young boy and grim slayed steinar's son sorry i'm reading this kind of

05:04:15.080 oddly here um but he suffered a grim wound as well

05:04:24.440 so he he passed away um and when they came to the hole the boy died they buried him there in the

05:04:31.720 holt and now it is called grimm's holt and the place where they fought is called battle hill

05:04:40.840 um thorstein rode then to swan nest that evening as he had intended and sat there at the feast

05:04:48.280 three nights after which he made him ready to go home men offered to go with him but he would not

05:04:55.400 so he and his easterling friend rode together that same day oh let me see here

05:05:05.080 um

05:05:08.760 i wanted to see too because of the easterling here that it says they call him a heim heim further

05:05:17.880 um

05:05:24.520 um the uh the easterling as a as a translation i don't know if you have the same in yours

05:05:31.880 uh um that same day steinar expecting that thorstein would be riding home

05:05:41.320 rode out along the shore and when he came to the dunes below lambasted

05:05:46.520 he lay in wait there and he had the sword named screamer

05:05:51.080 an excellent weapon he stood there on the sand hill with the drawn sword eyes turned one way

05:06:04.520 for he saw thorstein riding on the sand uh lambi who dwelt at lambastead saw that steinar was go

05:06:11.780 was was doing he left his house and went down the back and when he came to steinar he gripped him

05:06:18.620 from behind between the shoulders so he you know hems him up Steinar tried to shake him off but

05:06:26.940 Lambie held fast and so they went from the sand hill onto the level and just then Thorstein and

05:06:33.480 his friends rode by on the path Steinar had ridden thither on his stallion which was now galloping

05:06:41.020 inwards along the seashore Thorstein and his friends saw this and wondered for they had

05:06:46.300 they had perceived nothing of Steinar's coming. Then Steinar turned to regain the bank for he

05:06:52.980 saw not that Thorstein had ridden by and as they came to the edge of the bank Lambie suddenly

05:06:58.520 threw Steinar from the sand hill down the dune to the flat of the sand and then ran home. As soon

05:07:06.900 as he could get to his feet Steinar ran after Lambie but when Lambie reached his house door

05:07:12.720 he dashed in and slammed the door shut and locked it Steinar aiming to blow after him to the door

05:07:20.480 so that the sword struck the wood of the door there they were parted the the door

05:07:26.720 broke open and then Steinar pulled his weapon and went home

05:07:31.340 when Thorstein came home he sent the next day a housecarl out to Lirebrook

05:07:39.620 to bid Steinar move his house beyond Borgeron else would he take advantage of this against Steinar

05:07:48.120 when he had more power on his side and you and you you will then said he have no choice but my

05:07:56.080 to leave of migration it's translated so Steinar prepared to go out to Snuff of Elstrand and there

05:08:03.700 he set up his household at a place called Elida and thus ended the dealings between him and

05:08:09.700 Thorstein Aileson so it's kind of anticlimactic but what ultimately is going on is he's basically

05:08:16.620 saying I'm going to take you back and prove that you laid in wait to ambush me and do an unlawful

05:08:24.720 killing and if you don't leave and go further out I'm I'm going to take you and and own you in court

05:08:33.180 um because lambi was clearly there as a witness so at this point steinar packs up all of his stuff 0.80

05:08:42.240 again and goes out to the uh the there's a beach there and um he um up in the north and he stays

05:08:53.780 there and that's where this kind of ends so thorstein eilson gives thorger blund the land

05:09:02.900 that steinar owned that was that he was encroaching from um and that kind of 0.83

05:09:12.980 bit him in the in the butt as well because thorger also turned out to be a bad neighbor 0.81

05:09:19.460 to Thorstein in every way he could. 0.98

05:09:24.140 On one occasion, when Eil and Thorstein met,

05:09:27.820 they talked much about how Thorgir Blund, their kinsmen,

05:09:31.460 and they both agreed about it, and Eil spoke a verse and said,

05:09:36.000 Steinar, my word, erewhile, stripped of his fruitful acres,

05:09:40.540 so did I hope to help the heir of Ger and Ketel.

05:09:45.540 False though he promised fair,

05:09:47.260 my sister's son hath failed me blund now whereat i wonder withholds him not from ill

05:09:55.160 so he speaks a verse denouncing his sister's son saying you know we're kinsmen and i gave

05:10:05.600 him that land he came across it in in good tidings of a of a court courtly situation and he's

05:10:12.780 you know he's he's shat the bed about it and he's he's done very bad towards my son and so speaking

05:10:21.320 that verse and then having it memorized to be spoken of is is um pretty bad and it leads to

05:10:28.640 him eventually like he leaves not because of the verse but just because of the bad um dealings

05:10:34.900 between each other. So Thorgir Blund leaves Annabreca and went south to Flokadale. For

05:10:43.940 Thorstein saw he could not get on with him and yet wished to be forbearing. So Thorstein was a man

05:10:50.920 with no trickery and just never aggressive on others, but he held his own if others attacked

05:10:56.940 him. But it proved disastrous to most to match their force against him. So basically what that's

05:11:04.140 saying is Thorgir knew he wasn't going to fight one of his own kinsmen and Thorstein was not going

05:11:10.380 to idly just set things down and now that Aeol was kind of invoking all of this he he needed to leave

05:11:21.360 and so you know I I assume Thorstein gains the land of Annabreka that was once owned by Steinar

05:11:30.300 um odd was then head man in borger fair south of white river he was temple priest so now we know

05:11:44.520 odd is a govi who also yeah he's of the hof he he runs a hof um and ruled over that temple to

05:11:53.360 which all paid tribute within Skard's heath. 0.89

05:11:57.120 So Skard's heath pays half toller to that half.

05:12:00.800 And that's in odds, you know, control.

05:12:07.960 And it kind of just ends there.

05:12:12.200 And then chapter 85, we move now to the death of Eil Skalagrimson.

05:12:17.640 elskala grimson now grew old and in his old age he became heavy in movement and dull both in hearing

05:12:27.000 and in sight he became stiff in his legs ale was at mosfell with grim and thornis

05:12:36.760 it happened one day that ale went out along the house wall and he stumbled and fell some women

05:12:42.840 saw this and laughed saying oh you're quite gone now ale if you fall when alone so yeah

05:12:52.520 you got you got to be careful if you fall you're so old now if you fall down you're gonna die

05:12:57.960 then said master grim women jeered at us less when we were younger and ale then saying

05:13:05.240 sang, old haltered horse I waver, bald head I weakly fall, hollow my failing leg bones,

05:13:14.420 the fount of hearing dry. Ale became quite blind, and it was so that one day when the weather was

05:13:24.700 cold, Ale went to the fire to warm himself, whereupon the cook said that it was a great

05:13:31.820 wonder how such a mighty man as ale had been that he should lie in their way so that they could not

05:13:39.100 do their work cooking around the fire ale said be you civil though i bask by the fire and let us bear

05:13:49.340 and forbear about place he's basically saying remember i'm you know i'm the reason this you

05:13:59.420 know you you're here i'm the reason why you're living in this place and not dying in the cold

05:14:05.980 and she says stand you up and go to your seat let us do our work ale stood up and went to his place

05:14:13.500 and he sang blind near the blaze i wander beg of the fire made pardon crave for a seat

05:14:24.220 such sorrow for sightless eyes i bear yet england's mighty monarch me william greatly honored and

05:14:34.900 princes once with pleasure the poet's accent heard so now he's blind and in the way of the

05:14:44.420 cooking maids when once he stood in the courts of kings and spoke verse to the ears of great

05:14:51.920 warriors and men of old again once when ale went to the fire to warm himself a man asked whether

05:15:02.320 his feet were cold and warned him not to put them too near to the fire that shall be so said ale

05:15:09.520 but tis not easy steering my feet now that i cannot see a very dismal thing is blindness

05:15:16.160 then ale sang lonely i lie and think it long carl warren with eld from king's courts exiled

05:15:30.320 feet twain have i frosty and cold bedfellows needing blaze of fire

05:15:37.040 so now i sit alone and my body is now old and i you know once exiled from great king's courts

05:15:50.300 um now find the strange bedfellows of frozen feet that need to be warmed by a fire

05:15:59.340 In the later days of Hakon the Great, Eil Skalagrim's son was in his ninth decade of years, and save for his blindness, was a hale and hearty man.

05:16:16.040 One summer, when Med made ready to go to the thing, Eil asked Grim that he might ride with him to the thing.

05:16:22.760 grim was slow to grant this and when grim and thortis talked together grim told her

05:16:28.840 what ale had asked i would like you said he to find out what purpose lies under his request

05:16:38.680 thortis then went to talk to ale her uncle it was ale's chief pleasure to talk to her

05:16:46.180 and when she met him she asked is it true uncle that you want to ride to the elf

05:16:51.740 I want you to tell me, what plans do you have in this?

05:16:58.680 I will tell you, he said, what I have thought of, I mean to take with me to the thing.

05:17:06.040 Two chests that King Athelstan gave me, each of which is full of English silver.

05:17:13.920 I mean to have these chests carried to the hill of laws, just when it is most crowded.

05:17:21.560 then i mean to so broadcast the silver and i shall be surprised if all share it fairly

05:17:28.760 between them kicks i fancy there will be and blows nay it may end in a general fight of all

05:17:39.240 the assembled thing so he wants to go there and fling this silver out there and just watch

05:17:47.400 all of these the law abiders fight each other for greed is ultimately what he's planning on doing

05:17:59.080 thortis though says oh this is a famous plan indeed he thinks it will be remembered for a

05:18:06.680 long time in iceland after this thortis went back to grim and told of ale's plan

05:18:12.520 that shall never be he said that he'd carry this out such a monstrous folly so grim doesn't think

05:18:20.440 this is a good idea at all and thortis may have just been told him telling him it was a great

05:18:25.000 idea just to kind of keep him at ease but grim's like no this is bad this is very bad

05:18:32.440 um and when ale came to speak with grim on their going to the thing grim talked him out of it all

05:18:39.640 and ale sat at home during the thing but he didn't like it and he wore a frowning look

05:18:45.860 so he's very displeased with this situation um but grim you know said no don't don't do this

05:18:53.820 don't one don't throw all this silver out and two you know don't bring that kind of chaos into the

05:19:02.380 thing um at mosfell were the summer sheds of milch kind and during the thing time thortis

05:19:12.460 was at the sheds it chanced one evening when the household at mosfell were preparing to go to bed

05:19:18.780 that ale called to him two thralls of grims he bade them to bring him a horse

05:19:25.420 i will go to the warm bath and you shall go with me so he's saying he wants to go to the um

05:19:30.780 um hot springs um and when ale was ready he went out and he had him with him his chests of silver

05:19:42.360 he mounted a horse and then went down through the home paddock and under the slope as the men

05:19:48.360 saw afterwards but in the morning when men rose they saw ale wandering about in the holt east of

05:19:54.360 farm and leading the horse behind him they went to him and brought him home but neither of the

05:20:02.280 thralls nor the chests ever came back again many are the guesses as to where ale's money went

05:20:09.720 east of the farm and moss fell is a is a gill coming down from the fell and it is noteworthy

05:20:15.800 that in rapid thaws there was a great rush of water there but after the water had fallen there

05:20:21.560 had been found a gill in english coins some guess that ale must have hidden his money there

05:20:29.400 below the farm enclosure in mosfell there are bogs wide and deep many feel sure tis that ale

05:20:36.440 hid his money there and south of the river are the hot springs and hard are they large earth holes

05:20:42.920 and some men guess that ale must have hidden his money there because out that way the cairn fires

05:20:48.840 were often seen to hover ale said that he had slain grim stalls thralls also that he had hidden

05:20:56.200 the chests but where he had hidden them he told no man in the autumn following a ale fell sick

05:21:04.920 and of the sickest of the sickness whereof he died and when he was dead then grim had ale

05:21:12.040 dressed in goodly raiment carried down to child a mess there a sepulcher mound was made

05:21:19.160 and in it a year was laid with his weapons and his raiment just kind of a funny side note

05:21:26.680 because of my job and again the strangeness of how orlog works i was working at a barber shop

05:21:35.400 at the beach um in the city that i live in in virginia and a man came in and he had runic

05:21:44.120 tattoos and i inquired you know uh why he took to this liking of these of these runes and i can

05:21:55.320 just it what happened stance because he came in to get a haircut he said i'm a treasure hunter

05:22:01.960 and i've been to iceland numerous times and i've been looking for ale's treasure he had a he used

05:22:09.580 a metal detector and that he had been there so many times that like he kind of became enamored

05:22:15.840 with the culture and had the the runic tattoos kind of as a emblem of his multiple treks up there

05:22:23.580 and and uh he was actually preparing to leave again um to go up there and look for the silver

05:22:30.540 and um i told him you know i was from iceland and um i'm also through and we had like a

05:22:37.940 a really good long conversation he actually kept up with me for a long while and then i kind of

05:22:43.360 lost contact with him um over a telegram but um yeah i just thought that was super strange

05:22:51.720 or weird in the proper sense that that man would end up in my barber chair so

05:22:59.680 um so chapter 86 of ale's bones grim of mosfell was baptized when christianity was established

05:23:15.160 by law in iceland he had a church built there his common report that thortis and ale moved to the

05:23:22.580 church and this proof there is thereof that later on when the church was built at mosfell

05:23:28.720 that church which Grimm had built at Bush Bridge was taken down. The church yard was dug over and

05:23:37.040 under the altar place they had found human bones. They were much larger than the bones of other men

05:23:43.960 and from the tales of old people it is thought pretty sure that these were Egil's bones.

05:23:53.040 Skopty the priest, Thorin's son, a wise man, was there at the time.

05:23:59.740 He took the skull of Eil and set it on the churchyard fence.

05:24:04.400 The skull was wondrously large, but still, more out of the common was its heaviness.

05:24:11.180 It was all wave-marked on the surface like a shell.

05:24:15.860 Skopty then wished to try the thickness of this skull,

05:24:19.240 and he took a hand axe and brandished it aloft in one hand brought it down with great force to break

05:24:25.480 the skull but where the blow fell the bone whitened but neither dented nor cracked once it

05:24:31.640 might be gathered the skull could not easily be harmed by the blows of weak men while skin and

05:24:37.880 flesh were upon it the bones of ale were laid in the outer part of the churchyard and moss fell

05:24:43.240 um and that kind of goes i know a lot of folks that might have heard that especially

05:24:50.600 in the aussitry community where they they talk about that there may have been a bone disease

05:24:56.220 that uh ale suffered from that caused the calcium build up and so his skull may have been

05:25:05.720 tightening around his brain which may have given cause for such as his um

05:25:12.680 erratic or kind of oftentimes high and low behavior but again he still lived um for nine

05:25:19.960 you know or up into his 90s um

05:25:25.560 so thorstein oh sorry of the clan of the mirror men thorstein eilson received baptism when

05:25:33.960 christianity came to iceland and he had a church build at borg he was true to the faith and a good

05:25:40.440 man and he lived to be old and died in his bed he was buried at borg by the church which had been

05:25:46.280 built so you kind of see a super swift cut off from the age of heroism to the lauding of the age

05:25:55.400 of martyrs and i think it's more importantly known that like the audience this this part here

05:26:03.480 is trying to say like all this wildness and all this craziness you know was brought under reign

05:26:09.400 by uh you know christianity and and and humbled these men which is not the truth because they

05:26:15.960 still fought in great amount after christianity but um you can kind of see this being laid out

05:26:22.920 in the story for that purpose um from thorstein have come numerous descendants many great men

05:26:31.080 many poets they are of the stock of the mirror men as are all those who sprang from skallagrim

05:26:39.720 it long held good for that kin and that men were tall and great warriors some too were prophetic

05:26:46.680 in sight they were two distinct types for in that stock have been born that the handsomest of men

05:26:54.440 of men in iceland such were thorstein aelson carton olofsson sister's son of thorstein and hall

05:27:04.040 gudmansson and helga the fair thorstein's daughter about whom gunlog worm tongue

05:27:10.760 and scald raven quarreled but the more part of the mirror men were a very ill favored of the brothers

05:27:19.560 sons of Thorstein, Thorgir was the strongest, Skulli the tallest. He dwelt at Norg after the 0.95

05:27:26.300 days of Thorstein, his father. Skulli was a long time in freebooting, so still going a Viking 0.98

05:27:33.260 after Christianization. He was the foc'sle man for Earl Eric on the Iron Ram when King Olaf 0.98

05:27:42.700 Triverson fell. And that's another story. Scully was in seven battles and was deemed a great

05:27:51.440 warrior and very brave. He afterward came out of Iceland and settled in a house in Bjorg and dwelt

05:27:58.340 there till old age. Many have him, his descendants. And so ends this story. So the Mirar men are kind

05:28:07.060 of split up into the the calmly and the the ones who have uh sight craft and wordcraft and then 0.96

05:28:14.600 there are the large troublesome warriors uh that are also born of that line and this is uh this is

05:28:25.240 how it ends. We did it, folks. Matt, you're muted. Oh, Matt, you're muted.

05:28:40.440 Yes, it appears I am. I was going to say thank you, Svon. That was a lot of reading tonight.

05:28:47.780 Yeah, thank you, everybody who has been with us through this process and listening. I know it's

05:28:52.940 a big question and answer series episodes a lot of it's story time but it's a really cool story

05:28:59.580 and i'm glad we were able to cover this i mean those of you who've been here at speaks for itself

05:29:09.180 and those of you who haven't you've got

05:29:12.300 like four four five and a half hour episodes to to listen to to get up to speed or at any time you

05:29:25.260 want read for yourself a lot of places you can find it but svan mentioned on the very first episode

05:29:32.700 this big thick the sagas of the icelanders right and it's

05:29:37.020 it's awesome it's a really good purchase it's all this stuff in one place but it's only 20 bucks on

05:29:46.300 amazon i just looked it up today it's on sale yeah that's what many of us first encountered

05:29:52.860 this on it stands the test of time i encourage you to go out and get that if you don't have it

05:29:58.940 it should be on everybody's bookshelf and you can bludgeon intruders if you need to because it is

05:30:04.300 lady um i've got a couple of questions from folks i want to say happy yule to everybody over on the

05:30:14.620 side we've had people kind of popping in and out i knew tonight was going to be a little bit iffy

05:30:20.060 on if people are going to be here but he's doing a lot of stuff with family as they should be during

05:30:24.220 this amazing yule time uh season that is upon us um yeah we got six days left so

05:30:34.300 make them fun and have a good time. I mentioned we are coming to, at the end of the year, this will be

05:30:42.380 the 30th anniversary of the House True Folk Assembly. We have been doing this as the House

05:30:49.700 True Folk Assembly for 30 years come the end of this Yuletide. So yeah, it's a big accomplishment.

05:30:58.660 we're very excited about it and speaking of coming to the end of the year we still have

05:31:04.180 some calendars left if anybody is interested in getting their afa calendar uh 2025 calendars

05:31:12.020 they're pretty they got pictures of a bunch of stuff we've been up to um go the trend east's

05:31:18.820 wife uh madison did a lot of work on putting them together they're nice if you would like

05:31:25.060 yours you can get it today at the gift shop at runestone.org

05:31:32.820 but yeah thank you for that i know some of these questions came a little bit earlier but the

05:31:38.660 the two two real questions that we have uh both came from oh and i did see you over there under

05:31:46.740 a different name uh wolf throne it's good to see you back on here and and uh even if you're in a

05:31:52.980 In a disguise, we always love having you, and you've been a big contributor to the directions that we've gone and the different questions we've answered this year.

05:32:05.080 So I hope you're having an amazing Yule where you find yourself.

05:32:09.980 First one is from Morris. Both of them are from Morris Taylor.

05:32:13.880 First one, does the AFA ever plan to sell a DVD

05:32:16.860 for all their magazine back issues

05:32:21.160 or release them as one giant torrent file?

05:32:25.080 They can make a DVD of the magazine, of the Rune Stones,

05:32:29.660 is what he meant.

05:32:30.660 I can only read what's presented to me.

05:32:33.040 Oh, I'm just saying, that is what he meant.

05:32:34.880 I'm not a wide reader.

05:32:36.560 I am.

05:32:38.120 No, that does make more sense.

05:32:39.820 um he says that downloading them one by one takes forever

05:32:44.820 you need faster internet my friend um no so the first so we've talked about that a lot

05:32:53.520 uh not the first option really what we had talked about was more

05:32:58.860 getting an anthology getting like all of them in maybe one big book and selling that way um

05:33:09.820 So that's a little bit further out there. We still have some that we are missing. I don't have the list on hand, but there are certain issues we are still trying to get our hands on. We've made a lot of progress this year, as a matter of fact, and anybody doesn't know what we're talking about.

05:33:25.300 Yastru Folk Assembly, one of the, I guess, foundational things of its kind and a organ

05:33:37.980 that was used to get our message out for a very long time was the Runestone magazine.

05:33:43.680 And it was, I mean, it started out with folded up paper with kind of hand-drawn sketches

05:33:52.560 is looking pretty janky back in 1972 with i think 16 subscribers or something and you know it had

05:34:04.000 numerous stops and starts i think the last paper copies were coming out the fair like i want to say

05:34:15.760 99 2000 right at the turn of the century um things have kind of evolved a lot of that is

05:34:27.840 you know in our current newsletter which you know in honor of this publication and tradition

05:34:34.160 we also refer to as the runestone but these old runestone magazines we're trying to collect all

05:34:40.720 of them a lot of work has gone in behind the scenes a lot of credit due to uh witten brandy

05:34:49.040 facet and apprentice folk builder chris savage of michigan they put a lot of work in on

05:35:00.640 doing what we can to preserve our history to store document

05:35:07.520 arrange and organize our history with what we have to identify what we don't have that we're

05:35:14.440 still trying to get and then we've done a lot of work this last year going back and trying to

05:35:18.960 you know recover what things that we can so we have a more comprehensive

05:35:24.200 documentation of our history and where we come from and the various things that have

05:35:31.680 brought us to where we are today and i mentioned earlier this is going you know

05:35:37.520 We're finishing up the 30th year of the Ausatru Folk Assembly, but our Ausatru legacy in modern times is about to turn 59 years old, and it goes all the way back to 1968 when – no, math doesn't work on that.

05:35:59.200 don't quote me um no it goes all the way back to late 60s when steve uh had his

05:36:09.600 moment to where the all father odin awakened his soul and called him to this and

05:36:21.360 you know very humble beginnings through all kind of twists and turns with

05:36:29.600 sketchy crazy people with absolutely amazing people and inspirational people with everything

05:36:37.680 in between all different flavors of our folk to get us to where we are today and to build

05:36:44.560 the foundations that we are so very fortunate to be able to to build upon today and continue

05:36:52.480 to move forward and so we're really trying to catalog all that stuff so finding all those back

05:36:57.920 issues gathering everything that's possible to get a hold of that we have for them and then

05:37:03.760 releasing that in some ways absolutely something that we'd like to figure out

05:37:07.760 you know the best way of doing when we get there and we're getting closer there's

05:37:10.960 there's a few issues that we know we're missing that we're trying to get um

05:37:15.440 um the other question um also from morris taylor is

05:37:28.520 i i had a couple of parts here i'm trying to get to all of it

05:37:36.200 um okay so if the gods cheat a giant by sabotaging their work

05:37:44.660 doesn't that send a bad message shouldn't the gods be honest in their deals and he's referring

05:37:51.840 to the episode uh with the the construction of the walls of asgard um

05:37:57.460 got some thoughts on it's fine do you have anything off the top of your head on this that

05:38:07.620 you'd like to speak on yeah uh one remember how and if anybody's listened to the cosmology vns

05:38:17.800 we were talking about how um certain people nowadays are trying to twist and turn the

05:38:25.820 cosmology around based off of these kind of obscure and kind of wrong translations um

05:38:33.620 But the way that our ancestors saw the cosmology is that the gods were in the center place, and they were in the heavenly mountains, so a place above.

05:38:47.480 And in the heavenly mountains, there is Ausgarther, the enclave or the compound of the gods.

05:38:58.120 And there's also the tree, because the tree is in the center of everything.

05:39:03.620 and a lot of people try to say oh no no it's like oscar there is heaven and the edge of the walls

05:39:09.380 bridge right to the edge of heaven and it's on top of the tree and all the roots are down below

05:39:14.420 etc that's completely not correct um and so in this situation when you read that story one of

05:39:24.500 of the first key points is that the the stonemason is mentioned as a man in disguise he's actually a

05:39:35.780 so the way our ancestors especially the way they view that that cosmology is from the middle earth

05:39:43.300 up into the the heavenly mountains this

05:39:46.900 this stonemason goes and he presents himself firstly falsely as a Jotun and he doesn't have

05:39:59.080 his horse in its full capacity it's not even really an issue so he goes and says I'll make

05:40:08.500 this wall for you so already right there the entirety of the thing is built around false

05:40:14.860 pretense. So he's going into this, presenting himself one way, but really being another

05:40:22.040 with the intent of harming, hurting the gods and removing from them the sun and the moon and Freyja.

05:40:32.520 So, and again, that also lends to cosmology because the way that our ancestors saw that

05:40:38.000 that central place, that upper place, that heavenly realm as being on the top of the mountains

05:40:43.500 is that the sun and the moon moved in in their realm as well and in Jotunheim and in Vanaheim

05:40:52.220 so that the middle world was beneath these mountains but shared the same sun and moon

05:40:58.660 and that's why they have multiple names for the sun and the moon um but yeah so my ultimate point

05:41:06.760 that despite that my gripes about other people trying to twist and heretically change cosmology

05:41:13.720 because of translations which i that always i harp on that sorry but he comes into it with

05:41:22.600 false priestesses proclaiming to be from midgard and being a man and again for the sake of the

05:41:30.040 story it's again it's it's worth noting that this these stories as they're being told with the gods

05:41:37.560 moving about um from the upper to the middle it was seen as something far more easier and we see

05:41:46.680 thor come down and go into jotunheim or we see them the gods come down and and and so on and so

05:41:53.400 forth and generally you know most of us know it's like the way that you gain ascendancy is through

05:41:58.360 bifrost bridge um but for the sake of the story here it's this he's a man who comes up as a

05:42:06.600 stonemason but no he's not a man he's a jotain he's far stronger bigger than he appears and

05:42:13.240 his horse is a jotain or a jotain horse we could go into the like the meta of this story

05:42:21.560 at the possibilities of the reframing of um i would even say like like plates and the movements

05:42:31.320 of continents if we want to go deep into that but that's not the point i think that

05:42:39.640 ultimately he starts off with a falseness and then on top of that loki is the one who makes the kind

05:42:48.600 of contrived deal um and so like the the onus of that beguilement really falls upon uh loki

05:43:02.120 and it takes convincing he has to convince the gods that this is the way they need to go

05:43:07.640 he has to convince lord odin he has to convince as they gather to counsel and he says this is the way

05:43:13.480 we should do it and at least get half the wall built because there's no way he's going to be

05:43:18.120 able to finish it he's just a man and then when it starts it turns out he's not and that their

05:43:24.840 their suspicions were correct there's something more about this guy than what what is seen so

05:43:32.760 i think that this is a far more a i don't think it's gray per se it's it's more speaking about

05:43:39.480 the idea is like do you hold true to your word to folly even though on the onset the person that

05:43:49.640 you're going into dealings with is clearly or suspectedly trying to twist and turn and and win

05:43:59.800 the uh the agreement ahead of you so i always looked at it as he comes in there with false

05:44:06.760 pretense and then the gods give themselves a safety net they don't think that a human could

05:44:12.520 finish the job in that time and that's when they realize he's not a human so the the falseness is

05:44:19.000 revealed and now they don't know what to do this is going to happen and then loki does as he do

05:44:28.360 and break all kinds of normalcy um and tricks out um the the deceiver so that's where i think it's

05:44:40.200 it's it fits more of the appraisement of fighting against cunning

05:44:49.560 uh deception coming into your into your uh inner guard and um at the same time the gods always

05:45:00.200 kind of are more or less like we don't want to do this deal we don't think this is good there's no

05:45:06.360 way he could finish it and loki's like no we should do it but we'll just make these times shorter

05:45:11.800 and then you know there's the suspicion of this man being more than what he is and then sure

05:45:17.240 enough he is so i don't think that the story reads out as a black and white i think it shows that

05:45:27.080 sometimes when you are met with deception you must return deception

05:45:35.800 yeah that's very much what i take from it also um

05:45:40.840 um because there's a couple of really important pieces in there um

05:45:52.360 yeah loki advising them to make these bad deals

05:46:00.040 with with this stranger and then the incident it describes at the end

05:46:09.240 um and i was trying to look at the

05:46:12.960 the translation text and i'm having trouble finding a good side by side of this with the

05:46:22.660 old norse right next to the uh the person's translation so i want to see what some of

05:46:30.400 these things say because yes it is in almost all the translations it's referred to as them

05:46:35.600 breaking their oath with this guy but it's described in an interesting way they make a

05:46:42.800 big point at the end of when he discovers that he can't fulfill the deal because there there's kind

05:46:50.000 of two there's them the trickery in arranging it so he can't build this wall and then there's the

05:46:58.800 big reveal at the end and so the first is trickery with the deal he's got this like magic stallion

05:47:10.000 that you know they thought it was a regular stallion he's like haha look at my magic horse

05:47:14.800 that's gonna get this thing done super fast and they're like haha look at our magic horse that's

05:47:20.240 gonna seduce your magic horse um there's i mean there's trickery there and repaying trickery for

05:47:29.440 trickery at that point but there's also at the end and i i really want to consult the original

05:47:37.280 uh text on this i want to know what he presents himself as in the in the old norse and what it's

05:47:45.680 revealed that he is because they talk about a reveal and it only really makes sense in the

05:47:52.880 context of like it being a surprise reveal it's not just like he throws a fit at the end and they

05:48:02.480 kill him they make a point and again i'd like to consult the old norse to where he unfurls you

05:48:10.480 know he throws this fit because he goes into this anger and it's called like uh forget what the word 0.88

05:48:16.160 is but jotun is in it it's called this like basically this jotun rage that he goes into

05:48:23.200 and then they're like ah look see he is a giant and then they unleash you know devastation upon

05:48:30.640 this giant in the translations i do see it referred to as like and they they're breaking

05:48:38.480 their oath with him he was very quick or he was very sure to make oaths with them to be in their

05:48:44.080 presence because he had feared you know that they would do him badly especially if thor was there

05:48:49.840 because thor is noted as the the enemy of the giants so so notoriously um

05:48:59.600 there is that element there but i think there's a lot going on and the other thing is

05:49:08.480 the nature of the question is odd to me at this point in my spiritual development and it wouldn't

05:49:19.460 have been early on there's

05:49:23.240 so in the Abrahamic faiths it is

05:49:33.920 expressly in the text and the tradition of certainly the main schools of those things

05:49:44.240 that their holy texts are meant to be directly literal

05:49:52.520 and the absolute divinely inspired word of their God

05:49:56.860 with no room for error or room for conceptualizing it

05:50:03.280 any other way than specifically literally.

05:50:06.400 And it says that within the body of their texts,

05:50:09.060 and that's always been a big thing about their teaching.

05:50:11.240 And if that's what your norm is, it doesn't allow for some nuance on some things.

05:50:21.360 Fundamentally, this lore is the collected tales of our folk refined to that point, you know, that latest stage for them to be delivered to us in the manner that we have.

05:50:34.280 There's countless amounts of fragments and things that we wish we had, but we don't anymore.

05:50:41.240 but what we have is the development of a lore and written tradition of stories

05:50:48.840 in their final form that they got to

05:50:52.160 there's and they're super valuable they're very important and i

05:50:59.160 our people aren't comfortable with gray so it's like either they're a hundred percent word for 0.74

05:51:05.660 word the divine word of the gods or oh that's just some crap the story wrote that's no good

05:51:14.300 and it's not it's not either of those two answers um but it also

05:51:26.860 isn't like if you walk up the rainbow you're going to be able to knock on this stone bridge that this

05:51:33.020 that this giant and his you know virile stallion built

05:51:40.860 these teach the greater truths of our gods through stories and imagery that our folk

05:51:48.620 understand and that our folk at the time understood um i don't have the expectation that from

05:51:57.340 um these stories in the way that they're presented in the midst of poetic treatises

05:52:04.420 and you know knowing that they're the evolution of these stories that they are

05:52:11.440 like I don't have the expectation that it's played out to where the gods are displayed as

05:52:20.920 perfect or infallible or is not making mistakes or errors or doing anything wrong ever that's not

05:52:31.180 that's not how we relate to our divinity in that way and that's also not how the stories

05:52:39.040 are really meant to be we get really hung up on like specific

05:52:44.740 moral interplays in the stories when they're teaching a a meta thing or a meta

05:52:52.600 explanation of something and i don't think

05:52:56.260 the question itself read like

05:53:02.080 well doesn't this set a bad example or whatever as if we were writing a story about our gods

05:53:09.560 as if we like made it up or like oh okay well we'll we'll make it different that's not what

05:53:16.120 we have we have a inheritance of these stories as they've come to us and while yes i think that

05:53:24.580 the idea of outsmarting trickery is it recurs in our lore a lot you see thor do that when um alvis

05:53:34.000 is trying to to win his daughter you know like no no it's good but let's just talk for a little bit

05:53:39.840 hey how about you answer these questions and makes him answer the questions until the sun

05:53:45.760 comes up and he turns to stone um the idea of outsmarting treacherous things being able to

05:53:55.760 outsmart your enemy and being able to repay deception with deception is portrayed a lot

05:54:02.640 there's a lot of nuance but these things are laid out in a

05:54:13.440 i'm sure there are more specific words from the study of mythology that make what i'm attempting

05:54:21.280 to say way less garbled but the idea isn't that this is exactly this happened and then you know

05:54:28.160 a literal horse mated with another literal horse to make another literal horse that had

05:54:35.040 you know eight fleshy legs this teaches us greater truths and greater myths and here we have

05:54:43.100 the forces of arian consciousness the forces of cosmic order having to get in this 0.97

05:54:48.560 like battle of wits with ancient forces of chaos of entropy and of destruction 0.96

05:54:56.800 and them out-swarting them through cunning.

05:55:02.000 The rest of it and the pretty picture part of it is,

05:55:06.920 it's not that it's unimportant, but it misses the point.

05:55:10.720 And secondly, these are the gods of our folk.

05:55:12.600 They're not the gods of our folk or the gods that we're involved with

05:55:19.380 because we have these conditions or we're like,

05:55:24.260 ah, I think everything they do is perfect.

05:55:25.700 ah i think odin did something i don't approve of it's not really up to me to approve or

05:55:30.420 disapprove of stuff that odin does he is the god of my folk he's the the king of our gods

05:55:38.740 and it's not presented as a religious smorgasbord these are our gods

05:55:44.260 it is for us to build a relationship with them to serve them to understand them and to

05:55:49.380 to be loyal to them or to be disloyal to our gods,

05:55:53.920 our blood, our folk.

05:55:56.300 Those are kind of the choices.

05:55:57.680 And it's wanting to better understand them is one thing,

05:56:01.540 passing, you know, moral judgment on story points

05:56:09.360 in the Eddas isn't, it misses the bigger picture

05:56:14.300 And it's not. Yeah, it sends whatever message it sends.

05:56:25.460 Looking at it, I'd be really curious, though, to know exactly how it's put, because it does speak to what the audience that wrote it, how they relate to these concepts.

05:56:38.480 And like I fully admit, there is this by the time of this writing, this idea of the gods being treacherous or the gods, you know, not fulfilling their end of bargains on things.

05:56:53.980 And I think that expresses a feeling among the folk at this very late period, and this is getting written down post the conversion, and you see some of that.

05:57:09.300 And so there's an idea of there being an uncertainty in dealing with the gods, and I think that goes into some of these things.

05:57:19.040 And I think some of that has to do with the feeling that fate is fickle, that, you know, bad things happen to good people, those kind of human things that we wrestle with.

05:57:35.620 like we read in the poem tonight where you know ale is lamenting like you know he did good by

05:57:42.180 odin he's been loyal to odin his whole life and then odin repaid him so poorly by taking his son

05:57:47.780 from him and leaving him this shriveled up old man with no son to carry on even though he has a son

05:57:58.420 but that's a very real emotion and that goes into the the writing down of the story

05:58:04.660 but fundamentally these are our gods and the gods of of our folk these are the gods of arian

05:58:11.080 consciousness and this describes their interaction as those forces of consciousness with

05:58:20.440 primal forces of destruction and chaos and we come to know them better by the stories but

05:58:27.680 we never think that there's absolute perfection in them and there's going to be things that

05:58:33.660 that sound odd to us but what i do think is important is

05:58:37.220 if it were and this and so i've been thinking on this a little bit and i know that my

05:58:42.520 it's late and my stuff's meandering right now apologize i was going through it and um

05:58:49.260 if oaths if the oath didn't matter and the agreement didn't matter

05:58:55.540 then they could have just got the wall and not paid the guy like that's the fact that they had

05:59:03.080 to go through a process of like quickly we need to figure out a way out of this deal they were

05:59:08.300 they were super clever and they played this trickery so what trickery do we have in our

05:59:14.760 arsenal so we can buy the rules of this oath keeping they also could have uh-oh this guy's

05:59:22.380 getting close we don't like him we're scared of him let's go put a whooping on this guy and they

05:59:27.960 didn't they didn't until the end when he revealed himself so i think that speaks to the terms of

05:59:35.720 these agreements also but again i think there's a lot of different layers to where

05:59:41.880 reading it now it doesn't seem like that big of a you know it's not a big you know as the

05:59:47.400 christians would say stumbling block to me um but i got the old north check your time

05:59:54.040 so i got the horse by itself i'm curious if this has them side by side because yeah it's

06:00:03.960 okay mine doesn't and i don't know if i need to reload it well they're side by side but they're

06:00:09.400 not exactly lined up correctly okay all right you're looking at and counting okay so

06:00:17.080 yeah so it's it's just not aligned it's a line really funky on my phone i don't even know how

06:00:22.680 that's the thing oh all right so i do need to go root through that if nothing else now to satisfy

06:00:27.720 my own curiosity on it um yeah it's chapter 42 in the guild beginning yeah yeah i had it pulled up

06:00:36.760 but it's like the old norse is in like little tiny text on it i think it's a phone thing i don't know

06:00:42.440 if it comes up that way on my desktop well what paragraph it is i'll copy you the old norse

06:00:49.160 oh no i'm like i'm on my phone i can play with it's a bunch of different little pieces in the

06:00:53.160 story that i want to just kind of see what words they use for certain things like

06:01:00.440 the guy that shows up do is he the giant that shows up or is he the guy that shows up no he's

06:01:07.560 he's referred to as a smith um and then uh a wall builder in modern icelandic it means

06:01:21.000 city builder but uh or an architect um but it translates to like wall uh or castle or fortress

06:01:32.200 builder and then later on it becomes revealed like oh no this guy is going to destroy the heavens

06:01:42.520 by removing the sun and the moon and he's going to take freya and and go into jotenheim and it's

06:01:51.240 only mentioned way later so i i think that's where the plot talk about a certain right um

06:01:58.040 in this translation yeah other things like craftsmen or whatever i'm trying to see if

06:02:04.520 there's an original word that gives anything else because without that he's just some guy that shows

06:02:09.480 up he's not you know looking like the enemy the entire point of the wall is to keep the giants

06:02:15.960 that they're having this this war with away from them and to not be able to penetrate

06:02:22.760 and he reveals that he is in fact the enemy again it makes that but there is some language in here

06:02:30.920 that i want to find some nuance on um yeah but i think anyway i think that's a good question

06:02:38.680 there's a number of those things that come up at different times and this is one that often comes

06:02:44.600 up so it's you know like even the title i'm trying to look at the title of the chapter

06:02:51.240 because it appears like it is titled in the old norse um

06:03:00.920 i want to i want to play with that translation a little bit too

06:03:03.640 yeah yeah and i think the the rover is like refute it's it has the same kind of yeah so i don't know

06:03:21.400 how much of the shading is due to the translation too yeah refuse or refute the um the the transaction

06:03:33.880 that's a big refute the transaction is a big difference between broke their oath

06:03:38.120 well it really it really is but you'll find that uh the oath breaking language in all the different

06:03:43.720 um translations of it or in several of the different ones at least so i wanna

06:03:49.400 well and again you would make sense when we're when we're digging into it and that's an important

06:03:56.200 that's an important point like even if that's how it comes off that's unfortunate and i think

06:04:01.760 it plays into some other themes but this is it's very interesting and i'm curious about it

06:04:10.600 well and utilizing when we look at the larger cosmic order coming into alignment with natural

06:04:18.040 law this being the war between the ouse and the von and then in this case we see cosmic order

06:04:25.400 utilizing the vitality or bringing basically chaos or that that power of chaos and harnessing it

06:04:36.440 guiding it to work for them instead of against them they like they end up bringing um order out

06:04:47.060 chaos and it's all done through this story in which there is this trickery this kind of

06:04:54.420 backhandedness and then then he has to you know he has to run because thor is coming

06:05:07.220 yeah so i want to look into this a little bit more on it um but that's we got a couple of uh

06:05:13.700 wolf throne questions as we often do matt and svan do you believe the soul the soul is eternal

06:05:25.860 svan do you have thoughts on it yes i do believe that the soul is eternal it it goes on i think that

06:05:34.260 can the soul be destroyed is another point um where we speak of of those that are have to cross

06:05:44.580 kill and slither and meet in naustron and that their soul is transformed or destroyed

06:05:52.260 in another way but beyond that yes the the the leak dies and the ek 0.97

06:05:59.220 recedes with thought and memory and falls into the soul, the soul. And that is what carries on

06:06:11.660 and goes to the ancestors beyond the veil. And in doing that, I really, I don't see anything,

06:06:21.060 Even the souls of Ymir and the souls of Bor and Besla and the soul of Adumla continue on in different form and different function, but do not simply cease to exist.

06:06:37.640 Bor and Besla become the eagle and the hawk, and Ymir's soul slithers down to become Nidogar, and Adumla's heart is ratatosk.

06:06:48.340 there's a constant showing of the idea in our stories that the the everlasting

06:06:56.020 changes position possibly function and or shape but doesn't just stop or disappear

06:07:04.660 even with lord balder so what i think is an exception and yeah i think that is absolutely

06:07:11.780 true and i think it's true in the sense that like energy doesn't like things don't

06:07:19.780 disappear out of existence they break down at worst so things

06:07:28.260 yes i think the soul can be eternal i think that we see the existence of the soul after death

06:07:38.580 displayed many times but i also think if a soul is completely

06:07:47.620 completely rotten and of no value and deemed completely unworthy then you see the the uh

06:07:57.620 imagery of it going to the strand and the idea of you know the venom dripping upon it and

06:08:03.940 dissolving it and i think that dissolving doesn't poof it out of existence it separates it into

06:08:13.940 component atoms and parts and stuff that gets recycled or put to different purpose but the

06:08:22.500 entity the the eunice the like um the cohesive identity of the soul of

06:08:36.900 those completely without merit people that can happen i think that's very rare and i think

06:08:44.020 that's the idea of you know that devouring by the by the dragon by the the dripping of the venom

06:08:52.020 is that the dissolving of the self into nothingness and i think that the self ceases to

06:09:00.660 become the self i think the parts and the the energy and the stuff gets dissipated into other

06:09:06.340 things for other purpose at that point but yeah i think for you know 99 of the time i think that

06:09:13.460 the soul is is eternal in yeah in our cosmology in an hour of theology i don't presume to speak

06:09:27.620 for the souls of other things other creatures other other folks that inhabit the world with

06:09:37.220 us that's that's up to them and their and their uh the gods of their folk but as far as our folk

06:09:44.520 and our gods that's that's a truth that we that we've come in um i'm trying to think anything

06:09:55.540 else tonight it's been late i want to look into this is why this is why studying language is

06:10:03.360 super important. Going back over and looking at the original text often gives us a lot of

06:10:08.700 interesting insight that helps us get different nuance to our stories that help us

06:10:19.480 internalize them and understand them better. But like I say, I appreciate everybody who has been

06:10:24.400 here and who's gone through this saga with us. It is really, really special to be able to

06:10:30.540 to go through this again with uh my good friend and colleague witness fawn over here and with all

06:10:40.380 of you in the audience and share something that that we both really care about with you guys

06:10:46.500 and yeah go through that process been good for us i hope it's been good for you i'm looking

06:10:52.740 forward to seeing you guys um yeah it'll be on uh new year's day when we've got our next episode so

06:11:06.340 and we're doing uh grow grow a song good

06:11:11.540 i think that's the next one coming up that sounds right we're continuing the pro the poetic ghetto

06:11:18.420 yep sounds right that's what we're doing we will see you guys uh the first of the year um

06:11:27.300 it has been amazing to enjoy 2024 with you guys um

06:11:35.220 we saw our 100th episode and we've really seen this program take off make it to a lot of different

06:11:42.420 places uh it seems every time i go to a national event or when someone new shows up at the hof

06:11:51.700 they've they've heard the show they've learned from the show and it's benefited them

06:11:57.860 a lot of that is due to the questions that you guys ask and the participation that's such a

06:12:02.420 huge part of the show so thank you all so much and i wish you all the very best for the next

06:12:09.460 six days of yule make that effort spend the time with your family and those that you care about

06:12:16.340 and i will see you at the first day of next year until then hail the isir

06:12:25.860 Hail the folk, hail the AFA, and remember, victory never sleeps.

06:12:55.860 We'll be right back.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - December 26, 2024

12⧸25⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 129 - Egill's Saga, Part 4

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