Asatru Folk Assembly - 2⧸19⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 137 - Helgakviða Hundingsbana I

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00:03:00.000 hello and welcome to another fantastic episode of victory never sleeps uh once again i am guest

00:03:15.340 hosting for the altar gothi as he and his family are in florida uh spending time with some of their

00:03:21.500 family and uh yeah we're gonna run through the uh helga kavita hundings bana one it is 37 stanzas

00:03:31.020 i think something like that so shorter by a bit than last the last uh portion uh top of the show

00:03:40.940 stuff i'm still learning all this bear with me um you can listen to this live on youtube uh twitch

00:03:49.820 i think odyssey twitter x whichever you prefer rumble vk links from the description of the video

00:03:57.680 or easy to find if you just search for us on those platforms uh the biggest upcoming event starts

00:04:04.840 uh as early as tomorrow if you show up i suppose but uh friday uh white springs florida and yords

00:04:12.020 off we are celebrating charming of the plow uh my wife and i will be there the ulcerra goathy will

00:04:17.240 be there um erickson's the mcnallens law speaker some uh some of our odenshoff folk a bunch of

00:04:27.260 great people will be there it's not too late to get tickets we made sure to buy enough food to

00:04:32.440 prepare for uh more people than we were certain will show up so uh if you're if you need to

00:04:39.340 you know pay to register when you show up that works just fine just let us know

00:04:45.260 and uh yeah feel free to bring an auction item and things to donate whatever you'd like

00:04:51.340 and we will uh see you there hopefully and a month from this friday uh march 21st we have

00:04:58.940 ostara at thorshof which will be at witten spawns off he and witten young and uh the team there put

00:05:05.340 on a great event that's uh as as go the east of njordshof charming the plow is my favorite event

00:05:14.680 But as Trent, the member, O-Star at Thor's Hoff is my favorite event because that's kind of where I started out Hoff-wise.

00:05:23.460 And that used to be the kind of flagship event on the East Coast in general before we had Hoffs.

00:05:29.740 So that one's near and dear to my heart.

00:05:31.720 It's a great time.

00:05:32.580 We will probably be there, depending on what the baby doctor says here in a couple weeks.

00:05:38.020 Most likely we'll be there.

00:05:39.060 uh witness fawn you got any top of the show stuff oh i was gonna say um definitely you know charming

00:05:49.960 of the plow for you guys in florida that's really really good we just had ours most people i don't

00:05:56.720 think they know um every hof has their holy tide on the third weekend but every national event is

00:06:04.340 on the fourth weekend of the, of the month. So, um, you know, for, for, um, March, you'll be

00:06:12.480 seeing Ostera on the third weekend from all the other Hoffs and then the national event on the

00:06:17.260 fourth. Um, but yeah, I mean, Florida, it's a great time to go down and break away from all

00:06:22.540 the cold. I, I would love to be down there right now. I'm buried in almost, you know, six, seven

00:06:28.180 inches of snow um which is super rare in this area um and you know just uh again everybody's

00:06:38.140 there both like founder mcnowen and sheila are coming yeah that's uh mostly like that

00:06:44.860 uh um yeah i mean good stuff i i think anybody who has the ability to go out to national events

00:06:53.960 should make you know the strives to do it to get out there um whether you you know group up with

00:07:01.740 people maybe you know if you're a member look up in chat and see who's getting airbnbs uh or local

00:07:09.180 hotels or or whatever you can and and definitely try to make it out it's you know generally a

00:07:16.360 a process of like the first night getting there on Friday is um relaxed and um you get to know

00:07:25.180 people and then you get pretty much hit right out the gate with a very powerful bloat to one of the

00:07:31.900 the outs of our religion and generally it's it's Lord Odin it can be Lord Thor especially at our

00:07:38.520 our hoff and um and it's you know chest rattling um level of uh power going on there and then

00:07:50.120 the next day is you know meeting folks doing stuff with the kids um hanging out 1.00

00:07:59.640 having some discussions i know like the ladies will do like a discussion group sometimes

00:08:04.280 and then um we go into like storytelling and uh you know auctions um i mean just it's great and

00:08:15.240 then we you know we do a very powerful bloat and then finish off with a stumble and i think the

00:08:21.560 stumble is um unique i know that you and i have been to so many symbols and each one of them kind

00:08:29.480 of has that unique fingerprint of power to them as you get to hear other people's stories and

00:08:37.160 hear about their ancestors and um and then you know yeah sunday is saying goodbye and going

00:08:44.680 back into the world where um yeah not everyone is asa true and it's kind of a wake-up call um

00:08:53.160 But yeah, I really urge folks to try to reach out and do that and meet with some of the top people in the Alistair Folk Assembly and ask questions and just get a feel for who we are.

00:09:12.160 And the fact that we have them relatively close together with Charming of the Plow and the Ostara this year, if you're on the East Coast, definitely try to come out.

00:09:23.160 yeah for sure um you know like you said a lot of the top people in the afa will be there

00:09:29.880 i will also be there uh no but

00:09:32.660 okay wait first off since you did that i'm gonna you're uh i don't know i didn't mention it before

00:09:44.300 but um you've been in the astro focus assembly longer than i have

00:09:48.140 i i met you you were a member and i was like a brand new member um at the austra in georgia

00:09:57.880 ticket uh yes yeah it was down in hampton yeah yeah and i think the only thing was just like

00:10:05.060 you you were younger than you were so like i think that the the church was still trying to figure out

00:10:11.720 you know where you were at and again youth are generally uh um i think a lot of people join

00:10:19.620 and kind of flake out i think this is a problem that we constantly face because people don't take

00:10:25.500 our faith seriously we do and then they see that this this religion that they just kind of want to

00:10:32.840 express their edginess in is is serious so then they they run away or or they break off or they

00:10:41.560 have some little grievance with someone and um yeah you know but having three youth that joined

00:10:50.920 and um just you guys like you know being serious um you in particular you know and then

00:11:02.740 cultivating it's like gave me hope being an older guy it was just like wow you know these

00:11:08.480 there are some young guys who really are serious and they're they're pushing it and they understand

00:11:15.680 the seriousness of of the plight of our people and our soul sickness and so i i think you sell

00:11:21.520 yourself short when um you know you say that you're not a key person you i think you've been

00:11:28.140 around long you've been around longer than me and um and you've definitely gripped in and shown

00:11:34.360 numerous times that you are uh here for the the long haul this is your faith yeah y'all are uh

00:11:43.220 stuck with me um yeah no i'm just making a joke uh my point was yeah there's gonna be a lot of

00:11:49.740 great people at charm of the plow it's a big deal that the mcdallens will be there they have not

00:11:54.340 been to njortzoff yet and this is the fourth year that we've had it so and it's the 30th

00:12:01.660 anniversary of the afa and so they get to you know see where their legacy has come to so far

00:12:08.380 um i'm super excited for them to see the mural too oh yeah they're gonna love it steve's gonna

00:12:14.540 stand there staring at it for three hours gonna have to like make him move to do ritual i put a

00:12:19.820 lot of easter eggs in there so oh yeah yeah yeah he's gonna be asking everybody questions about it

00:12:28.220 Um, yeah, he's going to love that. But a couple more things before we start that I forgot to

00:12:34.960 mention, like I said, still getting used to this hosting thing. Um, GW Farnsworth donated $25 to

00:12:41.940 VNS. Uh, once again, thank you, Mr. Farnsworth. You do this every week and it's really, really

00:12:48.840 appreciated and it certainly adds up and it goes a long way. And yeah, the generosity just means a

00:12:56.780 lot and it does it helps um i can uh nick can you write down can our gw farnsworth if you have

00:13:06.920 an address could you please write that down i'd like to send you something

00:13:10.760 um if you could send it maybe to nick or you know back channels you don't have to

00:13:16.940 do it on here okay excellent i'm gonna send i i gotta send something to you uh anyways yeah

00:13:26.460 didn't mean to cut in there oh sorry uh yeah the other thing i was going to mention we are

00:13:33.560 close relatively speaking to paying off the orders off it was our most expensive half by far there's

00:13:39.760 the graphics that'll help me speak correctly uh we're about three quarters the way through

00:13:45.200 let's see yeah only 55 000 remaining that's a lot i know in the grand

00:13:53.140 And, you know, that five-figure number there seems like a lot.

00:13:58.140 But as it says on the screen, we've paid off $189,000 already.

00:14:04.440 And once we get this paid off, we can start the quest for Frazehoff, really, you know, tie that down, make sure our monthly income is correct.

00:14:15.080 all of the uh awesome folk builders and clergy in that area can start preparing to uh

00:14:21.740 you know be the stewards of their own hof and uh your son will finally have a temple again

00:14:29.060 for the first time in at least a thousand years so let's see i'm gonna ask this question before

00:14:37.440 we get started because it relates to charming of the plow yeah yeah uh use the restroom while you

00:14:43.800 do so. Okay. Folk builder Sarah Alt says, good evening, Witten's Fawn and Goethe Trent. Lots

00:14:50.780 of people traveled to our Hoffs last weekend and will be attending Yortsoff this weekend for

00:14:55.300 Charming the Plow. It's so wonderful to see. If unfortunately folk are unable to attend,

00:15:00.320 what are some ways they could celebrate Charming the Plow at their own homes, whether as a family

00:15:05.020 or solitary um well it essentially you know it kind of goes back to looking at the holy tide

00:15:16.860 in relation to the holy tides around it so before this was thora bloat and that was you know we've

00:15:24.200 just made it through the darkest part of the winter it's time to you know celebrate that

00:15:28.600 we survived essentially and that we've made it into a new year uh ostara which is next month

00:15:35.240 ahead of this one is you know spring is here it's arrived it's things are warming up flora and fauna

00:15:44.180 are coming back alive reawakening so charming of the plow is about essentially you know

00:15:52.760 pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps and kind of getting ready to get back to work

00:15:57.040 during the warm times of the year our ancestors would um kind of break the first ground start

00:16:03.460 planting crops and of course it's 2025 and uh our folk do a lot of amazing things so thankfully we

00:16:09.700 do not all have to be farmers very few of us in fact and that's that's awesome but we still like

00:16:16.500 to celebrate and recognize how our ancestors used to live and we can still take the mindset and the

00:16:23.340 cultural ideas of those times and apply them to the here and now uh as far as how i practice

00:16:29.780 charming the plow i actually learned how to do it from wit and spawn so what i say what he says

00:16:34.680 are going to be similar but i'll go ahead anyway um what we do is and i always celebrate at

00:16:42.800 north top but i suppose if i were going to do it here at the house what i would do is give bloat

00:16:49.480 to uh yngwie frey as he is uh the god of all green things uh god of the world or all the good

00:16:57.400 and ask him to bless our tools because we do have a garden here at the house so you know

00:17:03.880 bless our garden tools our garden uh and we would create the first furrow with one of those tools

00:17:11.320 and, you know, pour some of the blessed mead in there

00:17:16.620 and sort of probably do what you guys do at Thorsoth

00:17:24.320 and kind of write down a goal

00:17:25.600 or something we want to have accomplished by or around Freyfaxi

00:17:30.200 and kind of bury that in the soil there.

00:17:33.020 Witten Swant, what would you guys do to celebrate Charm of the Plow at your home

00:17:37.500 or what could members do to celebrate that camp you can do a hop this weekend?

00:17:43.380 I mean, exactly kind of what you were saying.

00:17:46.800 And there is that consistency that we are starting to build in Alcetree,

00:17:52.060 where there would be some commonalities.

00:17:55.580 And I think that one of the things that's unique to the Alcetree Folk Assembly

00:18:00.600 is the understanding about Charming the Plow being the starting of an arc.

00:18:07.500 um and and in particular with lord fray or i mean with holy the holy fray excuse me i gotta get out

00:18:14.560 of saying the lord fray because that means the lord lord uh the holy fray um and you know i just

00:18:23.440 wanted to expound on what you said there was just for people at home this is that moment um where

00:18:31.820 lord uh where the lord is gathering the alvar and he is about to enter into the middle world

00:18:43.060 he's about to descend down and what really you know is required is the opening of the gates

00:18:51.240 Once Dellinger's Hall is barred shut, Ostara or Oster, you know, she will open up those gates and let that warmth in.

00:19:03.520 And once she does, Frey and his retinue will come in and begin the processes of spring and all of that vegetative growth and all of that redundancy of, you know, our animals and what have you.

00:19:21.240 And I think it's important for people to realize that this is the beginning.

00:19:27.760 The midpoint for this arc would be midsummer.

00:19:31.460 I mean, excuse me, May Day.

00:19:33.620 May Day is the culmination of this.

00:19:36.780 The flowers are at full bloom.

00:19:38.860 The bees are jumping in and out between them.

00:19:43.780 So literally the birds and the bees kind of flitting and doing as they do.

00:19:50.300 And then the final arc is Frey Faxi at the harvest time.

00:19:56.040 And that's when the Holy Frey, you know, bids his love, Gerðr, who is here in the middle.

00:20:03.040 He bids her adieu and he returns.

00:20:07.360 And we have the symbolic leaving of the horse that he leaves her, that we, you know, we eat.

00:20:14.860 And this goes back to traditions of leaving the final sheaf of wheat in the field for John Barley corn, which is kind of, you know, post-Christian.

00:20:28.840 It is the holy fray. 0.94

00:20:31.700 So.

00:20:33.980 This cycle is unique and we have cycles within the years.

00:20:40.180 Obviously, there's the the major points in which we're looking at midsummer.

00:20:44.420 We're looking at midwinter and we're looking at Ostara when she opens the gates and we're looking at winter nights when the gates close and the veil between the living and the dead grow so thin.

00:21:00.720 But this kind of unique cycle is, you know, really, really important as far as it comes from our agrarian past.

00:21:11.240 You said a lot of us aren't farmers anymore. And that's a good thing in the sense that, you know, our ancestors have struggled and, you know, claimed our ability to live different lives and not have to, you know, gruel away as serfs.

00:21:32.860 But the agrarian nature of most of our holy tides is still super apparent.

00:21:39.620 So if you were at home and you don't have a plow, I would say, yeah, digging a furrow with a small shovel.

00:21:49.880 If you're in a place that's so cold that the ground is not relenting, utilizing a spike

00:21:59.320 or something really heavy, or you could just adapt by placing something in a potted plant

00:22:07.560 that will be removed or be brought outside when it's warmer, but when you focus on, there's

00:22:18.720 like two things one if you're at home placing something in the furrow a a seed as we call it

00:22:25.440 at thorshoff we write down something that we want to accomplish in the summertime um it's warmer

00:22:32.320 we have you know it's the time we go out we get the horizon so if you have that seed you write it

00:22:42.160 down and it can also be things that you want to let go of things you want to conquer uh it could

00:22:48.340 be like, I want to stop doing this. You know, so sometimes they can be very personal, and very,

00:22:55.660 very deep. Other times, it's just, you know, I want to expand my business, I want to buy a new

00:23:01.100 property, I want to, you know, buy a car for my daughter, or whatever it might be. These little

00:23:08.500 challenges, these little focused goals. And I always tell people, write them, fold the paper,

00:23:14.920 right on top and bottom and then put one in the ground and take the other one with you um

00:23:23.260 but if you are at a hoff I I plead I beckon with you please bring something from your

00:23:33.480 work um not enough people do this um and you know Thorblot is about food and fun but it's also

00:23:43.660 about having your hammer blessed and not enough folks um i think we're bringing their hammers

00:23:50.220 um and then for charming of the plow you know bring something of your work um if you wear a

00:23:57.260 hard hat at work if you um have a stylus for a laptop or something something small that you

00:24:05.900 bring to work but it's always kind of tied with you in your orlaw in your weird bring it there

00:24:12.300 and ask the gothar to bless it it's it's a unique thing that you don't get if you're doing stuff at

00:24:20.380 home um but you know it's kind of the combination of the two but if you um you know if you are at

00:24:29.900 home holding a bloat uh lighting your candles ringing your bells saying your prayers uh blowing

00:24:39.180 the horn, calling to the gods, uh, calling to Lord Frey, calling to Gerðr, who is an

00:24:45.460 oust veneer, um, calling to Yarth of the earth, the good, the good mother of the earth, as

00:24:54.640 opposed to Gríðr, who is the dangerous mother of the earth, um, but calling out to Yarth

00:25:02.680 and uh placing in mead or bread placing in loaves um making your own personal loaves 0.68

00:25:10.860 and then pouring mead upon them and then covering them in the ground however you dig them in but

00:25:17.540 you know you you do this exchange we always kind of you know call the call the gods announce

00:25:25.060 to them what you're doing is in essence what we are we're not calling them as if they will

00:25:30.640 they they don't have the ability to be around you know they they are gods they can be around

00:25:37.420 but we're announcing what we're doing and um we're announcing that we're holding troth and

00:25:43.480 we're holding tradition every year and uh we want to be noticed and then you know you do an exchange

00:25:51.620 of mead um from your mouth and from your words into the horn and pour that into the lout bowl

00:25:59.540 And then you take that hlout bowl and when you dig that furrow and you place that bun or bread in, you pour that mead from the hlout bowl into the furrow, into the bread.

00:26:14.160 place your goal into the furrow and close it up and then give thanks for the gods that have

00:26:26.500 come to listen to you, to hear your proclamations, and then you follow through. And that's the real

00:26:35.420 kind of nitty gritty of charming of the plow. We have the plow as a symbol of the ingenuity

00:26:43.360 and the drive of our people, but, uh, it can be done with a trowel. It could be done by hand

00:26:50.600 or, um, whatever else you might need.

00:26:56.760 Yeah. That does remind me if you're coming to New York's off this weekend, uh,

00:27:00.860 and I may have forgotten to announce it, or it's been a while since I did, uh, yeah. Bring a,

00:27:07.240 a tool of your trade or, um, you know, come prepared to have your hands or your head or

00:27:12.960 your heart blessed or whatever like uh y'all's hair if you want his heart blessed um you know

00:27:18.980 uh some people wanted their hands blessed because they work with their hands um things like that

00:27:25.000 you know one guy brought in this huge weed eater one time that was logistically a little tough to

00:27:30.700 make work but we did um you know uh the law speaker will be doing the bloat and the actual

00:27:38.560 charm of the plow and the blessing of the tools uh this go i believe he's doing the blessing of

00:27:43.600 the tools as well this year so that's gonna be a great time he's uh all of his rituals are very

00:27:49.040 special he puts a lot into him we all do but uh a law speaker turnage ritual is just a very specific

00:27:55.280 kind and i hope you all get to be there and see it uh with that we'll hold off on the questions

00:28:02.640 for a bit we want to go ahead and start the uh hunting's motto yeah uh let me give a like kind

00:28:09.200 of brief um squaring up for folks that may have missed last or um yeah so we're going to be doing

00:28:17.440 it off of uh volospow.org and uh these are bellows translations again this is interesting because the

00:28:28.560 reoccurring character of Helgi. In this case, Helgi is reborn. And so Helgi and Svalva of the

00:28:40.400 older poem are reborn in to this poem. And it's specifically mentioned, but the big thing that I

00:28:49.040 would say for folks who are listening to this is that we're going to, and we will pick it apart,

00:28:53.440 is really good to look at, there are, you know, poetic kennings, and there are really good things

00:29:02.820 that kind of give us a glimpse into the cosmology of our ancestors, into the traditions of our

00:29:11.480 ancestors, etc. That's why these are, you know, the sagas and the heroes are really worth looking at

00:29:19.480 because they give us more of how our folk did things um and describe in in fairly good detail

00:29:32.240 excuse me and i um so i mean i definitely want to expound on some stuff um

00:29:40.740 And I think that the other thing that's worth noting is the overarching concept of rebirth.

00:29:51.200 You know, I think it's reincarnation is a very important subject in relation to Ausatru

00:29:58.860 because a lot of folks that are in, say, Eastern religions might think of a one-for-one

00:30:06.300 that, you know, you pass and then you return immediately. We do not believe that at all,

00:30:13.360 that we are very much in the deficit of our ancestors, that they are there. And another

00:30:21.700 thing is that there is not this sense that every time you're going to entirely be transferred over,

00:30:30.620 our ancestors see the parts of the soul as like a currency or a sense of boon that they can give

00:30:41.060 their bloodlines if they're allowed to give it at all. And so, you know, sending up these boons 0.99

00:30:48.400 to be born in your children, if you have a child that has traits from a good ancestor 0.98

00:30:56.260 and you start to see these things or perhaps traits from an ancestor you don't even know about

00:31:03.640 um but this is a good sign that they're carrying things that will elevate them elevate your family

00:31:12.780 elevate you um if you see that the child is you know uh again carrying traits that are not good

00:31:20.960 um sometimes that is the the lot that the ancestors have kind of you know um perhaps

00:31:29.440 sent your way even for you know deeds that might be unbecoming of the of the ancestors um

00:31:36.360 you'll see sometimes that new souls that come about you know are generally

00:31:42.600 those indicators aren't there and the the child is a blank slate and it's really important upon

00:31:52.080 the parents to uh make sure that the weird the orlog that they they imprint upon the new child

00:31:59.840 the new soul um will formulate them so much so um every single way of this is

00:32:07.560 uh you know crazy or not crazy but very very uh there's steep steep angles on it you don't and

00:32:19.060 we don't know uh once we pass through the mist of hell um the ancestors kind of they have

00:32:28.800 uh an advantage we they watch us they see us especially through the drippings of 0.75

00:32:35.900 of Mimir, but we don't have a look into them. So this is another big thing is these souls 0.89

00:32:47.520 cultivation. So let's say great heroes like Helgi. Helgi is brought forth again. Nidhogg,

00:32:56.780 the corpse ripper or the serpent of the lower realm, he's trying to rip that root because that 0.92

00:33:04.660 root draws up from Fjörgelmer. Fjörgelmer is the well in the bottom and in the lowest world

00:33:17.460 where the ancestors are. They're farthest away, they're most protected from

00:33:23.140 um uh the the onslaught upon heaven so that route is so important for the drawing up of pieces of

00:33:36.700 the soul um or you know the uh large part of the soul in order to be brought back into the well of

00:33:47.660 earth and entered into orlog so this process is complicated and it is not clear cut it's not

00:33:57.520 defined i'm sure i will understand it fully after i die um but not until then um you know or you

00:34:09.640 know the we could be raised up to be alvar we could be raised up to be dsir we could be raised

00:34:15.340 up to live amongst the holy gods in heaven um and have that ascension but we don't really kind of

00:34:23.020 learn that until we go through the process of becoming unwhole by uh hella's design hella's

00:34:31.900 move and then we take that road and we enter in with our ancestors and then we get to understand

00:34:38.940 this kind of secondary process of our um or possibly repeated but i think that lord odin

00:34:47.180 in these cycles um is cultivating these glorious souls the souls that truly aspire

00:34:57.340 um the ones that you can see are above they're cut in a different way they gleam differently they

00:35:06.700 are you know just um perhaps not affected by time and the other things that confine us um and that

00:35:18.940 is the that's the souls that i think lord othen is is really pulling into the heavenly realm and

00:35:26.300 these cycles are important to kind of cultivate that ever since the first breath of aunt it has

00:35:33.900 been a process ease and while we all get there no i was joking with producer nick i was like i

00:35:41.180 i had my chance and and i didn't get it um speaking about going to the war and i was very

00:35:47.820 dead set on going to valhall so i was in everything and on everything i could you know get into and

00:35:57.580 it didn't happen and instead i gained a family and gained children and i i trust in the wisdom

00:36:04.060 of lord othen more than my own inclinations to kind of be a edgy little youngin but um

00:36:13.900 you know again we just have to understand that the processes is

00:36:18.060 um it's figured out it it has its purposes and hierarchy is a thing you know and understanding

00:36:30.020 our place in the world can be sometimes hurtful towards our desires and our pride but you have

00:36:37.920 to trust that the gods are doing as they do so that was a very long rant about that

00:36:46.060 hmm so again that's an interesting point of this story is the helgi of the first poem that we

00:36:57.760 talked about two weeks ago this is a different helgi and it is mentioned in the beginning

00:37:04.700 and instead of svalva as his love he now meets sigrun and now there are connections to the

00:37:14.080 Volsunga Saga or the Ring of Dernibelung. In essence, Helgi is connected in birth by Sigmund,

00:37:30.660 Sigurd's father. So Sigurd the Dragon Slayer. Are these legitimate? We don't know. We don't

00:37:40.100 know if this was a poem that was written in denmark after and then was kind of put together

00:37:48.660 or if this poem like uh the volsung saga is much older from the migration period and

00:37:58.640 it kind of evolved as it went um we just don't know and there's a lot of debate and there's

00:38:06.980 Certainly a lot of layers from that time in Denmark and so on.

00:38:11.320 But, you know, I find it super interesting because it talks about some nuances, even to the point where, say, Helgi is buried in a barrow as opposed to being burned.

00:38:25.580 So there's very little interesting things in there to kind of see how our funerary practices change depending on, you know, where people were.

00:38:36.980 and what what things were available to them so that's why i recommend you sticking around

00:38:44.500 and listening to this because there's a lot of good stuff that kind of is very nuanced in there

00:38:54.340 um all right i guess what are we gonna we're gonna start as we start

00:39:00.340 Let's see. So, right out the gate, here begins the poem of Helgi Hunding's Bane and that of Hothbrod.

00:39:19.440 One, in olden days, when eagles screamed and holy streams from heaven's crags fell, was Helgi then, the hero hearted, Borthill's son in Browland?

00:39:41.640 So right out the gate for anybody that's, you know, listening in at the VNS cosmology and about the understanding that the way our ancestors saw cosmology was very, again, it's distinct.

00:40:02.400 and I think that people kind of just lost way of it.

00:40:07.540 The heavenly realm was seen as an upper world

00:40:12.340 on top of mountains, on top of Heimenberg.

00:40:17.920 And these mountains contained Ausgard.

00:40:22.980 They also contained other things like rivers

00:40:25.900 and there is a tree in the center.

00:40:30.020 It's in the center of all things.

00:40:31.760 So for a lot of folks that try to see Yggdrasil as some sort of cosmic tree and at the end of every root is like a bubble, or if somebody sees it as a tree that's rooted in the ground or in the underground and has all the roots down there, but it spikes up through another ground.

00:40:54.900 And then at the tippy top, that's where the gods live. I think they're deviating from the way our ancestors saw it. The heavenly mountains were surrounded by golden clouds. That's where the light elves resided.

00:41:10.060 and um they could they were there that the the the bivrost could come down that was a way for

00:41:19.120 you to come in otherwise you had to scale the mountains like thor um when it's mentioned that

00:41:26.160 he has to you know go of the long way around um and you know there what ausgar there isn't the

00:41:35.840 entirety of heaven. Earth's well is there, Yggdrasil is there, the rivers around it, and

00:41:43.180 the gods that took that place, carved out an enclave for them to be protected, and then

00:41:53.340 distributed the realms within the realm, if you will. And that's why the gods are spoken of as

00:42:01.160 coming down and going into jotenheim in the middle the middle world and or coming over the the the

00:42:07.640 world of men or going into vanaheim um so as we have evolved as a religion we understand now that

00:42:18.840 the upper realm in that that's mythological language um the upper realm is still upper

00:42:25.400 still center um and yggdrasil is there and its roots descend that connect into um the middle

00:42:35.080 realm or the lower realm and the movement between those in the stories is really important um

00:42:43.640 so i think this emphasizes it again in the olden days when the eagles screamed and the holy streams

00:42:50.440 or rivers um in the astro folk assembly we teach the gothar about the 11 rivers of heaven there's

00:42:57.880 11 rivers in hell or hell guard or nivelheim or nivel hell we have a lot of different names for

00:43:05.880 it there are also 11 rivers in heaven that flow there sacred rivers um amongst the gods and all

00:43:15.400 of their names are very you know built around luck or um judgment and uh war uh kind of more um

00:43:28.760 not theoretical but their their names their meanings are kind of the opposite of nivel

00:43:37.000 hell's rivers which are uh you know the the crying out in pain or um the wound the battle wound

00:43:48.360 river uh the cruel river so you can see when you look at these names and of niflheim you can see

00:43:55.160 the ones that clearly stand out in heaven and then the the rest of them are in the in the middle

00:44:01.800 world, sometimes separating us from Vanaheim or from Jotun. Anyways, sorry, I get into a cosmology

00:44:09.920 like rant because I think a lot of people have twisted and changed a lot of the way our ancestors

00:44:17.540 saw this. So the poetic sense of this is that the eagles are screaming as, you know, out there

00:44:27.400 On Heaven's Mountains, where Odin's crag, Hlidskalf, is, where he looks out upon the world, the eagles are screaming.

00:44:42.180 And this is a hearkening to a hero being born, being brought back into the cycle in the middle.

00:44:51.360 And it says in two,

00:45:21.360 say princes that does include you know princes how you know we mean it now but it also just means

00:45:32.160 you know sons of nobility or nobility themselves like um you know a brave warrior you know if he

00:45:39.920 was of noble stock could be called a prince i forget which how them all stands it is maybe

00:45:45.280 51 uh it's the one about uh a prince's son should be joyous and generous etc i'm not good at quoting

00:45:57.380 the hobble mall but yeah um well because there's two of them there's one that's he should be uh

00:46:05.620 joyful even upon his death yes you know smiling and then there's another one that says like trust

00:46:12.740 not your your sons uh until they've you know erected a a monument to their name like you never

00:46:20.740 know how they're going to turn out it's always get those two yeah confused sometimes yeah that

00:46:27.620 that one is um it doesn't necessarily mean the heir of the heir to the throne of some kingdom it

00:46:35.860 it means you know a good noble man's sons so just something yeah the name for it here is

00:46:46.580 kind of not the same like you'll see it in anglo-saxon the word that they'll use for

00:46:51.860 prince or warrior they kind of interchange them is atheling um and i think a lot of people don't

00:47:00.580 know that. The translator just tries to use what perhaps would best fit or create alliterative

00:47:09.940 points. But I was just going to say in here, I wanted to look up. And the other thing is I really

00:47:17.300 like to look up stuff because I'm never at the position where I want to say that I'm 100% correct,

00:47:28.060 especially in relation to old norse um because there are so many linguistical variants and so

00:47:35.980 when you have someone just saying like hey this is what it means you know um i remember someone

00:47:42.460 was translating the um the name of the it was vit near um the river that goes around valhall

00:47:56.780 and there is um like and they translated that to mean heimdall which again it's a really crazy

00:48:08.600 drunk jump because it you know means like wolf people and i i really that's the moment when i

00:48:19.060 realized like it's super important that we focus on um making sure that we check and we double

00:48:26.040 check before we say anything, because that was just like a wild thing to say. And I had always

00:48:32.580 been taught that around the halls of Valhall, there were Ulfithnar or Berserker or, you know,

00:48:41.520 the wild warriors, the children or the people of the wolf. And it says, you know, in there in

00:48:48.380 gremnismal that they patrol around um the hall again to to portray that a very safe

00:48:56.460 and security is high but for somebody to say oh no that means heimdallur was like

00:49:03.460 what so i at that point it made me really begin to question people's translations and also my own

00:49:13.680 But I do believe that the word in here, if anybody has the computer, um, is all the Lingi and I am, I am like trying to find it. That's the other part is I never know exactly what I'm going to have to look up for the night.

00:49:32.420 so i have my notes but then something like this will creep up um

00:49:39.120 i just wanted to check really quick and i really hate to leave you know dead

00:49:46.880 air um or i don't know maybe nick could could look up uh all the lingy for me real quick

00:49:55.820 or anyone in the audience too i've got a question uh we can answer real quick that's fairly short

00:50:03.400 um and i'm gonna skip past some of the earlier ones because this one's easier to answer sorry

00:50:08.060 guys uh drb 87 says hey just started learning about this stuff which translation do y'all

00:50:15.040 recommend also what book should a newcomer read please and thanks as far as translations

00:50:21.080 a lot of people really like the hollander i do too um the bellows is what we're using for this

00:50:28.400 specific thing i enjoy bellows stuff uh thorpe is pretty okay on all the stuff

00:50:33.540 uh jackson crawford i don't like him as a person because he thinks alsatru is silly but wants to be 0.56

00:50:43.240 uh you know this authority on it so that's douchebaggery at its height in my opinion

00:50:51.080 and i wouldn't recommend his translation not that i think there's anything academically wrong with it

00:50:55.480 but he views the lore and all this work as kind of uh it's it's it's just a study for him it's

00:51:03.800 just a research project so uh that being said we can fix him yeah i can fix him um

00:51:13.240 Uh, as far as stuff, a newcomer should read, I've got two that I recommend that are like

00:51:23.000 bare bones, just starting out.

00:51:24.960 The first is called Alcetru, a native European spirituality by our founder, Stephen McNallan.

00:51:32.660 It's pretty easy to find.

00:51:34.220 It somehow has not been removed from Amazon or anything.

00:51:37.480 The second one, and this one's, um, it's a large tome and it's very dry.

00:51:43.240 but it is a great read and it's very very important is culture of the teutons by wilhelm

00:51:49.780 groenbeck volumes one and two uh and it comes in one book but it's just always titled volumes one

00:51:55.700 and two and uh i recommend buying the antelope hill publishing uh version because the alzharagothi

00:52:02.920 did the foreword for that and the other version you'll find in print online is done by a different

00:52:08.740 pagan group that doesn't like us for some reason uh oh there's a third book i'd recommend i just

00:52:16.560 remembered uh germania or germania if you want to anglicize it uh by tacitus that's um a really

00:52:23.940 really fun read and it's uh tacitus was a roman writer that was just writing down what he knew

00:52:32.380 of the uh germans or germanic people in the broad sense it probably included some celtic people in

00:52:37.680 there as well because the lines were so blurred but um if you are of northern or central european

00:52:45.360 or even some parts of eastern or western european ancestry anything but roman or greek basically

00:52:50.700 he was writing about your ancestors in there um lots of cool stuff he listed our strengths and

00:52:59.160 weaknesses as he saw them and there's you know bias of course he kind of had this uh noble savage

00:53:06.200 Outlook about us

00:53:08.320 But that's fine it's still a great

00:53:10.400 Read it's very telling you can kind of

00:53:12.420 See some earlier Alcatru

00:53:14.480 Things in there it's where a lot

00:53:16.500 Of people get the whole

00:53:17.560 Wrong headed attitude that

00:53:20.280 The gods should only be worshipped outdoors

00:53:22.520 But

00:53:23.600 That's where they get that from

00:53:26.500 And that is that may have been

00:53:28.520 True at the time but Alcatru is a living

00:53:30.560 Faith and it evolves and we

00:53:32.520 Have Hoffs and we're going to have many

00:53:34.600 many many haunts yeah or even just the the physical um i think that tacitus was saying that

00:53:44.280 you know we make our gods um in like human form and the germanics don't but clearly we do

00:53:52.760 and even clearly by the uh the nordic viking age they were also doing that um

00:54:02.780 so you know i think that was more of a jab towards rome um yeah he uh he had this

00:54:12.140 a lot of it was too yeah he was complaining about rome and being like oh we need to get back to

00:54:16.700 nature return to tradition like uh our german cousins up north you know yeah and especially

00:54:23.660 when it came to marital stuff he said that you know the germanic people only feel the need to

00:54:30.060 have one wife um and they looked down upon people who had um sexual inclinations that were outside

00:54:40.140 of of normality they if they were sleeping with animals or sleeping with the same sex they were

00:54:47.340 they were um punished severely um they also talked about divorce and stuff like that that's a great

00:54:53.340 book yeah oh yeah like every six months i love it um yeah the altar ago they would want me to

00:55:00.420 point out too that the way they punished things like gross sexual deviance or homosexuality was

00:55:06.460 rather than making a show of punishing it they would hide it away they would stomp the person

00:55:12.620 into a bog they would treat it the same way they treated cowardice it was on that same level for

00:55:16.900 them it was shameful for the whole tribe it wasn't like if you committed a murder and refused to pay 0.93

00:55:22.960 the man price it was gross and disgusting and they just wanted to make you go away

00:55:29.680 uh but we got off on a tangent there oh no i was gonna add um yeah i was gonna say if i had

00:55:38.000 number one number two number three of translations mine would i'm right there with you hollander

00:55:45.040 and then to be honest i prefer thorpe over bellows but the house of true folk assembly

00:55:52.960 encourages anybody who's reading the adas to get multiple versions you can find them online

00:56:00.960 so you know before you invest in paying for a book um except for hollander get hollander no um

00:56:09.840 um uh you can actually read the verses um across each other specifically with like major poems like

00:56:20.160 the volas bow or the halva maul that you can kind of get an idea as to which um translations you

00:56:30.300 prefer um you know thorpe straightforward bellows is very you know kind of old english uh king james

00:56:41.740 not or not old english middle english king james biblical kind of speech and hollander is a little

00:56:48.060 bit more modern but holds to all of the um the uh poetics if you will and i was gonna say uh as far

00:56:58.700 as you know faith goes um i mean there is a lot of books out there that you may find but you have

00:57:09.180 to be very very careful and you can if you find books that are stating that you know the gods have

00:57:18.220 you know desperate political positions if they are uh i know that like one group was trying to

00:57:25.180 say that one of the our senior is the goddess of homosexual marriage when you see those little

00:57:32.780 things those should be warning bells kind of popping off um letting you know like oh i don't

00:57:40.060 know but i was gonna say for me the book of troth by edward thorson is it was there it was one of

00:57:50.780 the first kind of books bringing forward Ausitru. It explains a lot of the structure of the bloat.

00:57:59.680 It explains a lot of the reasoning. You know, the older ones are kind of hard to find, but there was

00:58:06.560 a reprint. It was the book that brought me into Ausitru when I was 13 years old. There was no

00:58:14.280 internet. I came across it at an old bookstore and, um, it, it made me understand that this

00:58:22.580 faith is, you know, more than, um, people just pretending or the fact that it's been

00:58:31.040 so erased from our history. Um, so I, I really recommend that one too, because it goes over

00:58:37.980 hallowing spaces and the purpose of transference between the horn to the bowl and giving gift out

00:58:47.380 i think those are really like kind of key little mechanics that are worth knowing

00:58:53.540 it looks like producer nick got us that word you were looking for

00:59:03.260 I did. So you were right on your idea of it being related to atheling. That's exactly

00:59:14.040 what it is. Yeah. So they have the Nordic version of atheling amongst the Anglo-Saxons.

00:59:23.280 there's all the linger um is a person of gentle disposition um or you know of high disposition or

00:59:33.600 someone who is um specifically it's somebody who possesses all those inspiration uh yeah um

00:59:43.760 Um, yeah, I, I think that, um, a lot of folks too, I just noticed here in the, in the, uh,

00:59:54.480 comments that, you know, Edred's bloat is a bit outdated. Yeah. I think that we have evolved

01:00:00.840 from that. We have, that was, I think there were elements that perhaps were included. Um,

01:00:08.160 um and i i think that most of the astra folk assemblies bloats don't follow that um one for

01:00:19.200 one but it's worth as what it was doing at its time and uh kind of the basic blueprints um

01:00:31.740 I think are very interesting and I think worth looking at, especially for me, I'm biased.

01:00:41.420 I took the oath. He had a prayer kind of ceremony in there where the reverse of what Charlemagne was doing.

01:00:52.620 And Charlemagne had a prayer saying, you know, you need to leave these gods. You need to, you know, leave the, you know, spirits of the Nordic or the Germanic folk and accept, you know, Christ and the angels.

01:01:11.760 And Edra did a reverse one where he said, no, I relinquish Elohim or Yahweh. 0.54

01:01:21.000 I relinquish the rabbi, Yahshua.

01:01:24.300 And I claim now the gods of my folk. 0.79

01:01:28.900 And I did that when I was 14.

01:01:31.580 And it has changed me.

01:01:33.820 like i i have not uh since um you know i bringing about that in my faith is like

01:01:45.820 that was the turning point um as far as the hammer halloween goes there

01:01:53.980 there are numerous uh points about you know the directions the the four directions whether

01:02:00.460 we are talking about the dwarves or we're talking about the jarl who holds the horn up and says

01:02:07.480 you know i will expand mine my uh kingdom to the north to the east to the south and to the west

01:02:16.520 i know that a lot of folks try to skirt away from it because they feel like it's kind of mimicking

01:02:23.000 wicca and the watchtowers um but there is at least the validity that the idea of like

01:02:30.700 pressing your might into the the four corners um is a kind of poetic language um and the hallowing

01:02:41.600 itself though like blessing things and giving you know whether it's sprinkling which is kind of what

01:02:50.740 he focused on, but a spurgement and blessing things, um, with the hammer, with the swastika

01:02:59.600 or the fee fought, um, I think is pretty solid as far as, um, I think that's a development that

01:03:08.360 has relatively, um, you know, good, uh, placement when people talk about like over the horn, they,

01:03:19.740 you know they did the hammer of thor i don't think that they were doing an upside down t i think they

01:03:26.240 were doing the fifa and um and that fifa is that dynamic power of of lord thor but um we see that

01:03:35.460 where they are blessing and hallowing objects um and what have you but you know again i understand 0.90

01:03:45.380 too why wicca has a bad taste and everyone wants to to push away from it and i certainly think that

01:03:52.180 like even at uh the astro folk assembly we don't really do that but instead have the hallowing of

01:04:00.100 space by smoke some and when we're outside perhaps we do the the four directions or what have you

01:04:06.340 but um you know to say that it's just like a a wiccan thing i don't think i think that's misplaced

01:04:14.020 um and hallowing anything in the name of thor is if that seems also out it's i don't think that

01:04:25.540 that is uh correct with many of the references that we have towards blessing items blessing

01:04:32.920 objects or objects and people places with the hammer of thor um the question was always what

01:04:40.360 is the hammer of Thor. What does it look like? What does it mean? And I have always taken that

01:04:45.660 to really lend towards the fee font, but, um, yeah. So, um, okay, let's move more in. Um,

01:05:00.160 And so here we have, mightily wove they the web of fate.

01:05:09.980 Again, we see reference towards Orlog being a lattice.

01:05:15.320 While Brauland's towns were trembling all, and there the golden threads they wove.

01:05:21.280 And in the moon's hall fast they made them.

01:05:26.760 So another good point there is the golden threads.

01:05:30.160 um there isn't a lot of references made towards copper threads but there is a lot of references

01:05:37.200 made towards because i remember somebody along in early days of australia saying like you know

01:05:43.680 your fate is kind of golden web silver web copper web and that's the kind of lot of your life uh but

01:05:51.920 the idea that golden webs were wove for your your fate for your as a hero so

01:06:02.480 you know it's mentioned here that this is unique that this is going to be helgi um east and west

01:06:09.760 the ends they hid again you know showing direction um and also to east and west being specifically

01:06:21.440 connected to uh the birth and the death of a person um so there they weave these

01:06:33.440 these this golden thread and hide the ends in the east and the west and we again see this

01:06:39.920 directionalness portrayed in so many of the stories um the validity of

01:06:48.560 this usage of wording and the point of it is clear and this does it right here um

01:07:00.080 so they the east and west the ends they hid and in the middle a hero should have his land

01:07:07.440 and neary's kinswoman northward cast a chain and bade it firm ever to be

01:07:17.600 Once Sorrow had the Eveling's son, the Evelings, or the Ilflings, I mean, Ilfings, are most likely the Wolflings of Beowulf.

01:07:36.040 And we spoke about them a little bit on the last show.

01:07:39.440 Once sorrow had the Evelyn's son, and grief the bride, who the loved one had borne, and we lose here some of the translation.

01:07:55.300 Quoth raven to raven on treetop resting, seeking for food.

01:08:00.700 so now there is a birth and the the story is set and it it eventually draws us down

01:08:11.260 over the land over the house where um helgi is born and then back out into the land and

01:08:19.460 right upon two trees we see ravens and they speak there is something i know

01:08:28.980 in mail coat stands the son of sigmund a half day old now day is here his eyes flash sharp

01:08:44.400 as the heroes are he is friend of the wolves full glad are we so he speaks now and says

01:08:55.460 um that not even a half day old uh there is he has donned the the mail coat um really what this

01:09:07.280 is is that he's he has the mantle of warrior he has been uh the mantle of warrior is placed upon

01:09:13.380 him because he is the son of sigmund who is also the father of sigurd and he is only a half day

01:09:20.900 old and his eyes are sharp and he is going to grow up and be a mighty hero and he is the friend of

01:09:30.660 wolves he will feed them and he will also feed the ravens the warriors throng a ruler thought him

01:09:42.100 good times they said mankind should see the king himself from battle press came to give the prince

01:09:51.800 a leak full proud so this here comes from uh the tradition at birth um and i you know often did it

01:10:05.860 i did this with all my children was the the washing of the child with a leak um to you know

01:10:14.500 take out of the child and and brush that child clean by placing salt upon their head and washing

01:10:22.580 it off but that's true focus simply focuses a little bit more on the the norm near which we

01:10:29.540 saw in the first part here but um you know if anybody had ever seen those photographs of my

01:10:36.740 children's naming ceremonies there was a leak involved and that's where this kind of comes from

01:10:42.740 um as kind of in essence this is his time of being named and gaining his station in in the community

01:10:53.540 And Helgi, he named him.

01:11:23.540 So he is given entitled to land and or, you know, kingdoms, if you will, or places, landmarks, the Sun Mountain.

01:11:37.480 And so it's kind of explaining the vastness of his domain that he inherits by being born this warrior prince.

01:11:47.960 mighty he grew in the midst of his friends the fairborn elm in fortune's glow so

01:11:58.780 another good point to to kind of go out with here is that the ash and the elm tree in relation to

01:12:09.480 humans. It's clearly utilized by both, but it was not gendered per se. It was not that all elms had

01:12:22.760 to be a woman and all ashes had to be a man, especially in poetics. Ash could be utilized for

01:12:31.180 you know everyone and in this case here he's he's referred to as an elm i think that

01:12:38.020 some people get confused with that and i've also heard people try to twist and push that agenda

01:12:44.840 um which i i just i don't think it's correct especially with poetics the idea of um the the

01:12:53.640 usage of a tree has been um part of the poetics for a long while sometimes it wasn't even an ash

01:13:02.860 or an elm you know sometimes it could be a yew tree and so this case here people will find this

01:13:11.340 one little nugget and say oh that shows that you know this person was uh transgender or what have

01:13:19.360 you. And I think that you should be very, very careful about people who link into one tiny thing 1.00

01:13:26.240 to try to, you know, make, make the, the man bites dog story into the, you know, large of reality.

01:13:39.300 So let's see to his comrades gold. He gladly gave the hero spared, not the blood flecked

01:13:48.180 hoard the the riches gained by war short time for war the chieftain waited when 15 winters old he 0.83

01:14:00.080 was hunding he slew the hardy white uh again that usage there the hardy white white being

01:14:09.560 Not a color, but a spirit or the spirit of someone who long had ruled over the lands of men.

01:14:20.840 So at 15 years old, which isn't so far out of the realm, if a lot of people understand, you know, that our ancestors' life expectancies were sometimes in the 50s.

01:14:34.740 and um by the time you were 15 years old you might be getting a boat and expected to go

01:14:44.380 or join a crew and go and fight overseas and you know marriage didn't follow that much

01:14:54.080 you know after so the time scale might throw people off now but um

01:15:04.740 11. Of Sigmund's son, then next they sought, hoard and rings, the sons of Hunding. They bade the prince requital pay for booty stolen and father slain.

01:15:20.940 So now at 15 years old, Helgi slays Hunding and his sons come forth and say that you must pay the wereguild against slaying.

01:15:36.560 And another reason why this lends towards the possibility that these poems are from the migration period is because of, you know, the slaying of kings or chieftains, especially during the Nordic period, was not generally met with asking for wereguild.

01:15:58.000 um the the king didn't need to ask for wereguild instead there was generally a slew of men

01:16:06.640 sons and retainers who would seek vengeance um and i think that this is one of those

01:16:14.860 cases where it shows that there's this might be even further back in the migration periods

01:16:21.340 and uh kind of the the relationships between the different tribes

01:16:26.460 um the prince let not their prayers avail nor gold for the dead did the kinsmen get

01:16:38.720 waiting he said was a mighty storm of lance's gray and odin's grimness

01:16:46.580 so he says no there there is i will not give you any money i will not uh give you any

01:16:56.300 recompense for the slaying of your father because there is a mighty storm there is a storm of battle

01:17:03.980 coming and odin's odin will will be watching um as he knows what's coming

01:17:14.620 uh and the warriors forth to battle went the field they chose

01:17:20.380 The waterfall mountain, or the water mountain, the river mountain.

01:17:30.340 um fro these peace midst foes they broke through the aisle went hungrily vidrir's hounds

01:17:42.100 so at this point they uh war is unleashed between these groups and uh the peace um now you could

01:17:55.300 You know, Froði has often been talked about as being a physical king of Sweden, and here this is supposed to take place in Denmark, but you could also kind of look at it as, again, this dreadful peace between the groups by the holy fray has been broken.

01:18:17.100 And now war is, you know, released. Odin's hounds are battles as they go through and ravage the land.

01:18:34.180 The king then sat when he had slain Eyolf and Alf, these are the sons of Hunding, Neath the Eagle Stone, Hjordvarth and Hovarth, Hunding's sons, the kin of the spear wielder, all had been killed.

01:19:00.400 So now he's not stopping with hunting and he has, he's killing the, all the sons as well.

01:19:09.780 And in a way, you know, they would be obliged or not even obliged.

01:19:14.820 They would be 100% obligated to avenge their father.

01:19:20.040 Um, and he fights through each of them, um, and, and gaining victory over them.

01:19:31.980 Then glittered light from Loa Fjord and from the light, the flashes leaped high under helms on heaven's field.

01:19:44.700 Their bairnies, their armor, their chainmail armor, with blood were red, and from their spears sparks flew forth.

01:19:56.700 So now coming from Logofjord is the Valkyries.

01:20:03.940 And Valkyries is an interesting subject when we talk about the older poems versus the late Nordic and even slightly post-Christian conversion.

01:20:14.700 conversion, um, as, um, Valkyries were kind of seen as, um, whether you would say demigods

01:20:28.580 or having the ability to live amongst the folk

01:20:33.900 to be seen, to be captured or betrothed.

01:20:44.960 Seeing the Valkyrie in the middle world in the hero sagas is not uncommon.

01:20:53.080 And it is a huge drive for the hero.

01:20:57.600 the sacred feminine um the question again is is are these real people or are they divine

01:21:05.380 i have a tendency to believe that they are divine but the structure of the story needs to be

01:21:11.440 you know um still kept within the realm otherwise you know you you lose a lot of the conflict

01:21:21.300 But I love how it's said here that their chainmail is flecked with blood as they are the spirits of battle.

01:21:31.460 They are the extension of Lord Odin's will and manifest, his personal Nornir weaving Orlog at such a distinct moment in battles.

01:21:51.300 and then with 16 early then in wolf would ask the mighty king of the southern maid

01:22:01.060 if with the hero home would she come that night the weapons clashed so she or he asks her um

01:22:13.180 if she is betrothed to anyone

01:22:15.760 and would she, you know, come with him.

01:22:20.360 Down from her horse sprang Hogni's daughter.

01:22:27.180 The shields were still and spake to the hero.

01:22:33.040 Other tasks are ours, methinks,

01:22:36.100 than drinking beer with the breaker of rings.

01:22:40.400 so you might read this as a um an insult and it i've often wondered if it was but

01:22:51.600 sometimes when they had gold armbands they would break pieces off of it and give it to their their

01:23:00.900 followers um and this was kind of seen as a generous act someone who simply gives you gold

01:23:08.040 for giving them loyalty um you know a ring giver so a ring breaker um unless you know this is

01:23:18.200 referral to the killing of of hunding but at this point i think it's more a compliment um

01:23:27.240 because of the just the level of badassery that that helgi is doing at this point he is a hero

01:23:37.320 that you know wets his sword and then and continues to fight um but the the other interesting thing

01:23:46.760 here was i wanted to see um was about the referencing of hogni hogni being um

01:23:57.800 um a actual like person it's not a a special name for lord ovin um

01:24:08.680 and these connections between the the vol uh the volsung saga are starting to still kind of play

01:24:18.460 here helgi runs into um a valkyrie and sigurd runs into a valkyrie so this was a very very common thing

01:24:33.980 let me see yeah that would be yeah it's just there's uh in the notes down below um

01:24:41.260 um the Valkyries uh were essentially Norse as any part of the older mythos I doubt if a poet

01:24:52.360 much earlier than the author of first King Helgi uh Lay would have made his Sigrun daughter of

01:25:00.160 Hoglund so we see the element of the Valkyrie and this also again if these stories go further back

01:25:09.100 then the viking age where the valkyries added in were these women and then the title was added on

01:25:18.080 or was the valkyria a concept further in to central um europe and that it wasn't seen as

01:25:30.660 like a layering on. But, you know, she has her father, she is betrothed. And she says, no, I

01:25:38.300 can't, you know, spend time with you. I am betrothed to another. Helgi speaks in 21,

01:25:45.940 messenger sent the mighty one then by land and by sea, a host to seek store of wealth of the

01:25:53.920 waters gleam and men to summon and sons of men uh again to that little kenning of waters gleam gold

01:26:05.280 and amber um you know i think that gold has that kenning of waters gleam or gifting of the waters

01:26:16.880 because of amber and that perhaps you know there was the trade with the romans from the baltic

01:26:23.680 areas that was so important uh far in the past and that it became synonymous with wealth and with

01:26:32.960 with beauty and power and that is why amber and gold are both you know associated with the holy

01:26:41.040 freya um but in this case you know uh gold is i think the the primary reference

01:26:48.880 um and he bid them straight away in 22 seek the ships and off brandy read ready to be

01:27:00.580 there the chief waited till thither where come men by hundreds from heathen sea

01:27:09.880 which yeah hey haven say you in the old norse again sometimes the words that are translated

01:27:20.380 into english get a little wild um soon off of staff uh staff staff's nest stood the ships 0.87

01:27:30.220 fair they gilded, and gay with gold.

01:27:34.100 Then Helgi spake to Hjörleiv, asking, 0.95

01:27:39.180 Hast thou counted the gallant host?

01:27:42.420 The young king answered the other then,

01:27:46.920 Long were it to tell from Tronoyer,

01:27:51.980 the long-stemmed ships with warriors laden

01:27:55.720 that come from without into Orvasund.

01:28:00.220 There are hundreds, 12 of trusty men, but in Houghton lies the host of the king, greater by half. I have hope of the battle.

01:28:15.660 So he says that they're now preparing for battle outside of, you know, Tron, Tron, Tron, Neyri, Tron, Neyri.

01:28:32.300 And see this, these linguistics here, I'm, you know, trying to figure out exactly where they are.

01:28:37.780 And I'm wondering if these are referencing to the Danish islands in between Zealand and Denmark.

01:28:45.660 But here they have, you know, this gathering of folk and the idea that because he says there are hundreds, 12, you know, I don't know if this is 12, you know, 100 groups or if this is, you know, 112.

01:29:15.660 But there's a large band as they prepare, and they feel like there's a chance.

01:29:22.980 There's a good chance to win.

01:29:24.780 And Helgi speaks,

01:29:27.220 The ships tense soon the chieftain struck, and waked the throng of warriors all.

01:29:34.560 The heroes the red of dawn beheld, and all on the masts the gallant men made fast the sails in Varensfjord.

01:29:44.160 um and when you say ship tents remember too like a lot of times when they would go up on the beaches

01:29:51.760 they would drop their uh mast and turn it and bring out uh bring it out like a tent so a ship's

01:30:01.800 tent um is you know again a way that they would utilize the long ships for shelter and in this

01:30:09.600 case, you know, I guess that would also lend to the fact that the battle would be on land

01:30:15.940 as opposed to the sea. But they win and then they set off again. There was a beat of oars and a

01:30:26.780 clash of iron. Oh, actually no. So they land, set camp, rest, reset up, and then meet out in the

01:30:36.300 water. There is a beat of oars and a clash of iron and shields smote shield as the ship's folk

01:30:44.520 rode. Swiftly went the warrior's laden fleet of the ruler forth from the land. So did it sound

01:30:53.060 when together the sisters of Colga struck with the keels full long as if cliffs were broken

01:31:00.280 with the beating surf.

01:31:06.560 The sisters of Kolka

01:31:08.760 being analogous to waves.

01:31:13.120 And I'm very interested to look,

01:31:15.080 actually, I'm going to write that down.

01:31:17.220 I do not believe that

01:31:19.040 any of the daughters of Raun 0.75

01:31:22.260 are Kolka.

01:31:30.280 So where does that reference come from?

01:31:40.940 So the waves are striking the keel full long as if cliffs were broken with the beating surf, and Helgi bade hire hoist the sails, nor did the ship's folk shun the waves.

01:31:54.720 though dreadfully did Ayer's daughters seek the steeds of the sea to sink.

01:32:02.760 So I really, uh, Nick, can you pull up at the, the nine daughters of Ayer?

01:32:10.760 Is it, is Koga or is that just the way it's translated? That's throwing me off.

01:32:17.300 For anybody that's, they're really laying in the poetics, the way that you would think, you know, these folk are Ausitru.

01:32:35.540 And they're speaking about the primordial lord of the ocean. 0.91

01:32:39.760 They're speaking about the Jotun that the gods have made, they've made an oath with, they've made a deal, they have taken the primordial ocean and brought it under the dominion, but not in the way that they have with others.

01:33:00.000 They have not done it through marriage of the divine. 0.83

01:33:05.100 They have not done it through offspring.

01:33:07.880 And in this case, Ayer's waves, his daughters, are kind of grasping at the ship and ready to pull them down.

01:33:21.880 and we see more of more references of understanding about the fear of ayer and raun um

01:33:30.880 you know again for folks that might not have the computer in front of them

01:33:35.780 i see a lot of folks say a gear but it's pronounced ayer and um ayer is

01:33:46.180 It's kind of akin to perhaps with the Hellenistic, it would be like the difference between Neptune or Poseidon, Lord of Waters and Storms, and then like Oceanus.

01:34:03.480 Ayr is the lord that 0.96

01:34:07.320 Progenerates 1.00

01:34:08.640 The 0.97

01:34:10.340 Yotan 0.97

01:34:12.680 Kind of essence of the ocean

01:34:15.680 The ocean is still primordial

01:34:18.060 It still contains things

01:34:19.600 From far back

01:34:21.440 When Ymir was 0.99

01:34:23.100 Alive 0.99

01:34:24.780 And so

01:34:26.000 The gods

01:34:29.480 Bringing them under

01:34:31.720 Yoke and especially

01:34:33.260 in relation to the cauldron is very very important and um what we see here you know

01:34:40.540 these waves are just ripping and um

01:34:45.860 though dreadfully or sorry helgi bade hire hoist the sails nor did the ship's folks shun the waves

01:34:55.520 Though dreadfully did Ayur's daughters seek the steeds of the sea to sink, steeds being the boats.

01:35:04.140 But from above did Sigrun Brave aid the men, and all their faring mightily came.

01:35:13.160 From the claws of Raun, the leader's sea beast, off Nipponund.

01:35:21.480 Nippa meaning like kind of an arise, a lift or a hillock, a hilly place.

01:35:30.680 So outside of there, Sigrun comes to aid.

01:35:35.860 And this is where I wonder if they are speaking about her flying above the fight, which would, again, make the layering of moving away from a mortal woman to a Valkyrie, but blurring those lines.

01:35:57.040 and Helgi spake

01:36:02.700 at evening there

01:36:05.240 in Unnavalgr

01:36:07.020 floated the fleet bedecked 0.77

01:36:11.140 full fair

01:36:11.940 but they who saw from Svarin's

01:36:15.520 hill bitter at heart

01:36:17.100 the hoist beheld

01:36:18.380 then Gothmund asked

01:36:20.900 goodly of birth

01:36:22.180 who is the monarch who guides the host

01:36:25.500 and to the land the warrior, the warriors leads.

01:36:31.960 Sinfjolti answered and up on an oar raised a shield all red with golden rim.

01:36:41.000 A sea sentry was he skilled to speak and in words with princes well to strive. 1.00

01:36:49.280 Say tonight, when you feed the swine and send your bitches to seek their swill, that out of the east have the Ilvings come, greedy for battle, to Nippa Lund. 0.97

01:37:07.240 so now there's this exchange uh going across clearly insulting um that the the the ilvings 0.97

01:37:20.300 or the wolflings have come and this is another reason why uh the danish the the building of the

01:37:28.400 Danish uh peninsula the the Danes fought out the wolflings they they broke them and eventually

01:37:40.120 you know pushed them out but in here they're speaking of these battles as being not necessarily 0.62

01:37:47.540 um there's kind of again an honor amongst uh your your enemies if you will that the that they were

01:37:56.000 not some easy pushover. They were clearly a hard-won fight between the Danes or the starting

01:38:04.600 of what would eventually be the Danes and the Ilvings. And so this story, I think, you

01:38:11.640 know, speaks of Helgi and them being of these, you know, great renowned tribes.

01:38:17.720 um there will be hoth broad helgi find in the midst of the fleet and flight he scorns

01:38:27.480 often has he the eagles gorged whilst thou at the cairn where slave girls kissing so 0.64

01:38:37.560 So, he basically says that they're awaiting for Helgi will be Havgrawl, and he has gorged eagles with the corpses of the dead, and there will be many for them to fight.

01:38:54.640 Um, so this reference here, um, about the, the, the Yotans or the slave girls at the grinding stone.

01:39:14.360 um let me see i wonder if this is directly a reference to that story um

01:39:26.840 he but he basically says you know that hothbrog has fed eagles while you know you were at

01:39:41.300 the grinding stone um kissing slave girls and or it's kissing the help kissing the work um

01:39:50.260 while he was you know you were just but a babe trying to uh figure out girls and he was fighting 0.93

01:39:56.820 battles. And then Gothmund retorts, hero, the ancient sayings heed and bring not lies to the

01:40:10.960 nobly born. Thou hast eaten the entrails of wolves and of thy brothers, the slayer been

01:40:18.840 Oft wounds to suck thy cold mouth sought, and loathed in rocky dens did lurk. 0.70

01:40:27.860 So here we see this exchange between, as we go back standing, it is Sinfjolti.

01:40:42.120 Sinfjolti is now speaking forth to Govmund and he's speaking in kind of not representation, but he is able to answer back and he speaks back to Govmund saying, and then Govmund retorts.

01:41:01.860 So these are kind of more or less poetic insults. And you'll always see one that is hugely thrown is that you are the slayer of your brothers.

01:41:16.600 that is another reason why kin slaying and you know being labeled a needling um that is the

01:41:27.860 highest one killing your own kin um because it was thrown around so much um with such disdain

01:41:36.700 so he says you know you you were uh you were eating living like in the woods like a wolf

01:41:44.520 and eating you were a cannibal and you know you slayed your brothers

01:41:51.340 um and sin filthy speaks and i know i will say this is kind of a foreshadowing a little bit 0.99

01:41:59.880 um but sinful speaks a witch in varen's isle thou waste a woman false and lies

01:42:08.040 didst fashion, of the male-clad heroes thou wouldst have, nor no other thou settest, save 0.92

01:42:19.220 sin-feelty only. So they're exchanging, you know, these barbs back and forth. And

01:42:32.180 And there's a couple of like thoughts about this one where he's saying that you slept with a woman that had a child out of wedlock or, you know, with an unknown father.

01:42:46.080 Some people have read it as that it was not a woman at all, but a woman dress or a man dressed as a woman.

01:42:57.280 i don't fully know i think that most likely i'm just to be safe i think that they're referring to

01:43:05.120 um a woman who has a child out of without a husband or without a father and um that was kind

01:43:14.080 of you know the insult though or it also could mean to these saying like a a woman that was not

01:43:22.160 yet a woman so these are clearly insults these are seen as negative things and uh are not being

01:43:30.480 supported in that range so you know going with a uh a woman that you know the father

01:43:41.520 you know left of or is of ill repute um going with obviously a man that dresses as a woman or

01:43:51.040 a woman that is too young these are all considered kind of insults and so you know it's he's really

01:43:58.640 jabbing um and also called her a witch culture you know like the interchanging with the idea

01:44:07.280 that she's uh she's a temptress or a seeress of in the translation they use the word vulva but

01:44:14.720 but, you know, kind of this evildoer, this worker of magics.

01:44:24.980 In 38, a Valkyrie was thou, loathly witch, evil and base in all fathers' home.

01:44:35.700 The warriors all must ever fight, women subtle for the sake of thee. 0.87

01:44:41.340 nine did we in nine did we in uh saw guns of the wolf cubs have i their father was

01:44:57.600 godman spoke though older thou art than i than all i know for thy gelded thee in in nipalund

01:45:10.340 the giant women at Thor'sness once.

01:45:18.740 And Godwin speaks in return under the houses of

01:45:22.040 under the houses the stepson of Sigur lay.

01:45:25.980 Fane of the wolf's cry out in the woods.

01:45:29.340 Evil came then all to thy hands 0.79

01:45:32.300 when thy brother's breasts thou did redden. 0.99

01:45:36.320 So you slayed your brothers. 0.91

01:45:37.700 fame didst thou win for foulest of deeds sinful he speaks in brauval was thou granny's bride 0.74

01:45:48.560 golden bitted and ready to gallop i rode thee many a mile and down did sink thou giantest under the

01:45:59.940 saddle so i you know and also really has spoken about that too where the the mastery over the

01:46:07.920 of the animal and so the idea of of saying you know that i um mastered i tamed um the horse i

01:46:20.400 tamed um and you can't you know really fight against that and that's a i think a more

01:46:28.720 interesting way of putting it, considering Godmund is just throwing really, really venomous

01:46:38.480 attacks. And he continues on. He says, a brainless fellow does seem to be. So yeah,

01:46:48.160 a brainless fellow does seem to be when once for Golnir, goats didst milk. And another time 0.99

01:46:57.100 when as inth's daughter in rags thou wentest will longer wrangle so here and again this is an

01:47:08.680 interesting um that they're referencing stories and accounts and and poems uh and most likely

01:47:19.660 that inth's daughter is a uh a yotness and that he's basically saying that you're sleeping with

01:47:26.400 troll witches um you know wrangling them um living on the edges being a a person in between

01:47:39.200 the world of men and the world of the jotuns and and uh yeah so he's kind of throwing these 0.98

01:47:48.180 out there that you were destitute and you were sleeping with giantesses um

01:47:54.460 it's uh yeah good government's uh insults are pretty brutal uh sin filthy spoke sooner would 1.00

01:48:06.600 i at freckestein feed the ravens with the flesh of thine then send your bitches to seek their swill 1.00

01:48:14.460 or feed the swine may the fiends take you so he's like i cannot wait to kill you 1.00

01:48:24.740 at frekestine i will uh feed the ravens your flesh helgi speaks 1.00

01:48:33.280 uh better sin filthy thee twid besim battle to give and eagles to gladden than vain and empty 0.71

01:48:44.240 words to utter, though ring breakers oft in speech do wrangle. So here in this case, Sinfielty kind

01:48:52.780 of steps up as the word of his king of Helgi. And Helgi even states, you know, that when it comes

01:49:02.660 to poetic battling, it's not always the case of every lord or king. And he says, though, by the

01:49:12.620 end of the day, what do battles of words truly mean when we can simply just prove it and they

01:49:22.060 are vain and empty? Helgi speaks in 46, good I find not the sons of Gramnar, but for heroes

01:49:38.240 to seemly the truth to speak at moinesheimer proved the men that hearts for the wielding of

01:49:47.760 swords they had so um his his army is well tested his opponents are well tested and um it's already

01:50:00.960 been proven in the battles before mightily then they had made to run svipov and svegiv

01:50:10.000 to solheimer by dewy dales and chasms dark mist's horse shook where the men went by

01:50:21.440 the king they found at his courtyard gate and told him the foemen fierce

01:50:26.720 was come so and i think that's an interesting uh when we see mists horse um

01:50:38.800 i'm looking uh this might be the dog uh

01:50:48.960 um you know again this is again early morning is what he's making reference to and early morning

01:50:55.600 they are coming. The horse of mist, most likely Rimfaxi, who is the goddess Knight's horse.

01:51:11.920 Forth stood Hothbrod, helmed for battle, watched the riding of his warriors. 1.00

01:51:18.960 Why are the Niblungs white with fear? 0.78

01:51:26.800 Now, this is an interesting part because the Niblungs are in reference to the Nibelungs,

01:51:38.480 if anybody's familiar with the ring of the Nibelungs.

01:51:41.200 um and the origin of the nebel uh name might be again referencing to miss but um

01:51:52.880 you know he asks why are they you know why are they retreating or why are they why are they

01:52:01.620 shaking why are they not ready and godman spake swift keels lie hard by the land masterings

01:52:11.860 mast rings mast ring hearts and mighty yards wealth of shields and well-planned oars well-planed

01:52:21.700 oars the king's fair host the ilving's haughty 15 bands to land have fared but out in song are

01:52:33.780 seven thousand so goodman returns and is telling his king who's coming and what time they'll be

01:52:42.900 here they're going to be here by dawn they're going to be here when the um when the mist on

01:52:47.540 the ground is still here and he kind of asks like why are you returning why are you so shaken up by

01:52:58.100 this and he basically says that there's you know the the king of the ill things who is helgi uh

01:53:05.380 represented by simfield um they have 15 bands of men but in the water out in the in the fleet

01:53:13.780 there is 7000 men

01:53:17.220 and he says again at anchor lying off nipalund are fire beasts black all fitted with gold

01:53:28.480 there wait most of the foemen's men nor will helgi long the battle delay now that one is

01:53:38.560 interesting because the the usage of fire beasts dragons um connects to ships directly

01:53:48.400 um so you know at anchor lying off nipple and our ships they're pitch black they're painted black

01:53:58.000 and they're all fitted with gold um and there they wait and they won't wait long

01:54:03.760 so the battle is is coming um let me see here and now i'm having a brief issue with trying to go

01:54:19.040 forward all right so then hothbrod spike bid the horses run to ray and thing melnir and milnir

01:54:35.040 to murkwood now and sporveter to sparrans heath let no man seek henceforth to sit

01:54:45.140 who the flame of wounds knows well to wield so gather your men go everywhere pull everyone

01:54:52.680 bring them here let no man who's able to fight be spared from your summons and he says summon

01:55:00.320 hogney the son sons of ring atli we talked about that in the last episode about atli

01:55:07.900 either being a name that was brought about

01:55:13.820 because of the wars with Attila

01:55:16.740 and then there was also the thought that these stories are older

01:55:21.240 and that this is referring to Attila the Hun.

01:55:28.940 But he also said,

01:55:30.280 And Invi and Alf the Old,

01:55:34.220 glad they are of battle ever 0.99

01:55:36.380 against the Volsungs, let us go. Swift as a storm, there smote together the flashing blades at 0.99

01:55:45.980 Freckestein. Ever was Helgi Hunding's slayer, first in the throng where the warriors fought.

01:55:54.880 Fierce in battle, slow to fly or to retreat. Hard the heart of the hero was. From heaven there came

01:56:05.220 the maiden's hound so now the valkyries come down weapons clang and grew who watched over the king

01:56:13.140 and spoke sigrun fair the wound givers flew the the arrows were flying and the horse of the

01:56:21.700 giantess raven's food had so the reference there of the horse of the giantess is death is hell's

01:56:32.820 horse uh in reference to her she is of the jotuns and again we spoke about the jotuns

01:56:40.020 um coming into alignment with the holy gods through different means whether it's by oath or

01:56:46.420 by marriage or by um childbirth and the reference of the horse of hell kind of coming in and uh some

01:56:57.300 you know the the speculation of hell's horse with the three legs um but here it's just clearly that

01:57:05.300 you know death rolls in and ravens the you know begin their feast hail to thee hero full happy

01:57:17.460 with men offspring of envy shall ever live for thou the fearless foe has slain

01:57:27.300 who to many the dread of the death had brought.

01:57:31.600 Warrior well, for thyself has won.

01:57:34.880 Red rings bright and the noble bride.

01:57:38.620 Both now, warrior thine shall be.

01:57:42.200 Hogni's daughter and Hring's daughter.

01:57:46.140 Wealth and triumph, the battle wanes.

01:57:53.460 So this is the end of the poem,

01:57:55.920 but in essence Helgi uh Helgi loses the battle um

01:58:04.040 and that's what brings about the third story in which he is he's brought back again um

01:58:14.100 and the and Hogni's bride will be you know taken upon um Hothrod so it's it's

01:58:25.740 more or less a very short poem that has a ton of kennings and it alludes to a lot of different

01:58:33.380 things but then you know throws in a lot of geographical content that you know we have a

01:58:39.980 disadvantage of knowing exactly where they're at and a lot of folks debate as to exactly where

01:58:46.160 these places are. And it emphasizes kind of the battling between the clans of these areas

01:58:57.120 and how they fought each other by land and by sea. And it also has a lot of poetic flex

01:59:07.480 in the way that they're speaking of, you know, the flashing blades and the giantess's horse

01:59:15.400 or the dragons, the fire dragons being ships.

01:59:19.840 There was a lot of kenning work in this poem.

01:59:23.740 But then it, you know, then it ends.

01:59:33.860 And again, sorry, I was going to say 0.94

01:59:36.780 the descent of the children of Yngwie.

01:59:40.780 Yngwie is generally, is Lord Frey.

01:59:44.440 that are the holy fray that their descendants so this too meaning that they are um that the

01:59:52.100 swedes were brought into this as well um which i thought was you know very very interesting

02:00:01.900 actually i think one of the notes covers it um that ingvi one of the sons of half than the old

02:00:09.080 and traditional ancestor of the englings with whom the ilving ilvings seem to have been confused

02:00:17.560 so sometimes people would take the ilvings or the wolflings and confuse them with the englings

02:00:23.640 the confusion between the two uh and the volsungs was carried far enough so that sigurd himself is

02:00:31.240 once called a descendant of engvie even though that's relegated more towards the swedes so

02:00:43.880 and that's how i mean that's the end here um as we move towards

02:00:53.880 uh questions i guess do we have questions going on here and yeah we have a few

02:01:01.240 One cool thing I wanted to point out, so you mentioned that the Ilvings or Ulvings are probably the wolfings of, I forget, the wolfings.

02:01:12.900 Yeah, wolfing of Beowulf.

02:01:15.140 Right, yeah.

02:01:16.040 So those are also the wolfings or wolfings of East Anglia in England where my people come from.

02:01:23.640 And I bring that up because a question we get a lot is someone will say, well, I'm English or I'm North German or I'm Dutch or I'm lowland Scottish.

02:01:36.560 You know, I'm not Scandinavian, so I can't worship the Isir.

02:01:40.180 So, first of all, the Isir are Aryan gods. 0.99

02:01:43.440 We just use the Norse names for them.

02:01:46.260 Second, those groups I listed are all genetically Scandinavian.

02:01:50.940 the um so on a genetic level and this is something that was uncovered like six years ago like it's

02:01:57.940 fairly old news but when you um compare an anglo-saxon like fresh off the boat anglo-saxon

02:02:04.540 to a danish viking from a few hundred years later geneticists cannot tell a difference

02:02:09.840 they are the same thing they are cousins their language was roughly mutually intelligible it's

02:02:16.420 kind of like having to read uh bellows translation of any of our work about the language difference

02:02:23.220 um so yeah and then that wolfing connection shows that these were scandinavians that moved into

02:02:31.900 england and lowland scotland a little bit in highland scotland into the what's now holland

02:02:38.600 the netherlands into northern germany and further down south the angles and saxons specifically are

02:02:44.340 just Danes that picked a different tribal name and moved into a Uland or Saxony in Germany,

02:02:51.900 you know? So something to keep in mind there. Yeah. And again, too, ultimately, I think

02:02:58.200 that whether it's Gaulish or Germanic, when we look at the Aryan gods, we see them constructed

02:03:06.400 similarly. We see the tripartite, whether it's the Gauls and they have, you know, Teratatis

02:03:14.580 tyrannis and essus or we have you know lord odin thor and uh tier and then they have like in the

02:03:23.460 east with the slavs they have svawrog perun and velez cultures are different the languages are

02:03:32.260 slightly different or drastically different but the structure there you can see it's still the same

02:03:37.300 yeah for sure um so one question i've been eyeing is this is a guy i know uh his name is tyler he

02:03:47.960 says hey there i'm a non-member of the afa at the moment for personal reasons but i do love the afa

02:03:53.400 and what y'all are doing i wanted to send a question in for the show either tonight or

02:03:56.960 whenever y'all get around to it what's the best way to introduce family members or friends to

02:04:01.580 also true without overwhelming them particularly those who may have some bad preconceptions about

02:04:07.120 it thanks and keep doing what you're doing um the best way to introduce family and friends to it

02:04:17.240 without overwhelming them is just to live it make it such a non-negotiable part of your life that

02:04:24.500 they have no choice but to deal with it that's what i did and other than uh some issues with

02:04:33.740 antifa six years ago it went fine uh my family um they're all either liberal or they're conservative

02:04:41.400 and focused but like baptists you know and they're all fine with me at this point as long as they 0.98

02:04:47.080 don't see swan speaking icelandic at my wedding and then they're and get scared off they're good

02:04:51.900 otherwise um but uh yeah that's what i would recommend is you just have to live it and you need

02:05:01.020 to live it proudly um you know say these things with your chest you know uh live a noble life

02:05:10.660 uh which the guy that sent that question in i know he already is but i would encourage him to

02:05:16.400 join the afa and be open about it and just be patient with your family uh there will you know

02:05:23.620 you will need to be patient with them and uh they love you they'll they'll eventually

02:05:30.500 accept it or at least shut up about it what do you think witness one um i would say so like

02:05:38.260 you gotta hold firm like you said occasionally though you might meet someone in the throng of

02:05:45.860 your family that is at least willing to talk to you about it um and two things that i would say

02:05:52.660 you focus on is the pair the the similarities most of the people in your family um even though

02:06:01.540 they're christians they're european christians so you can find commonality there um when you talk

02:06:09.220 about austra and easter when you talk about yule and christmas they can see the commonalities with

02:06:17.540 the the yule tree and the yule log um and the you know the ostra eggs and and all of that you can

02:06:26.100 find the commonality again even to like the days of the week you know we bring that up quite often

02:06:32.020 teaching people that you know our faith was so permeated that even after the christianization

02:06:40.740 these elements remained. The other, I would say is, so finding that commonality when they see

02:06:49.320 weddings, I don't know if, you know, if you're getting married, but definitely get married in

02:06:53.380 your faith. When I, when I see people who are not Ausatru and in our families, they, it really

02:07:02.560 opens their eyes when they come to a wedding or when they come to like a baby naming. I had

02:07:07.800 mentioned that earlier. All of my children were named at home because we didn't have

02:07:15.380 Hoffs yet. And there was a lot of people there that were not just Ausitru. It wasn't Ausitru

02:07:23.960 exclusive. I invited a lot of people from my family life, my work life, because I'm not afraid.

02:07:31.160 Our faith is our faith. And when you try to hide it, sometimes it makes it seem like you're doing

02:07:37.560 something wrong so i had um i had folk over i had non-folk over you know i have non-folk friends that

02:07:45.240 and and co-workers so they came over and um we had a big meal and then um we fastened the name to

02:07:56.280 to my children whichever one because i did this three times and everyone after was like wow this

02:08:02.600 is you know i i feel like this is normal this is right or this is good or this is reminds me of

02:08:13.080 something they they some of them felt like it was drawing something out of them from the old

02:08:19.400 others were saying that you know they just they understood it and they didn't think that they

02:08:25.400 would um so it you know exposing your family members perhaps to certain things is not always

02:08:36.920 bad um perfect example i think that a lot of like the reconstructionist types might kind of

02:08:43.640 you know lift their nose at this um but we have a food prayer that we do

02:08:50.120 and we do this and we've we've had folks come over who are christian and they

02:08:58.200 respectfully go through the food prayer with us they you know and they listen to what we're saying

02:09:05.140 one of the biggest things that you can find is ally and like allied ship in your family through

02:09:11.900 commonality it's again the reason why we say church the word church and why it burns up a

02:09:19.240 lot of people is because they just got all this anger and aggression against it. But when I say

02:09:25.920 to my, you know, like a client, Hey, I got, I'm going to my church this weekend. They, they

02:09:31.940 understand. But if I'm like, if I go to the hall of, you know, the great, you know, thunder

02:09:39.400 crusher of the Yotans, I mean, they're going to be like, what? They don't, they don't get it. So 0.98

02:09:46.160 So definitely search for areas of commonality is what I'm getting at.

02:09:54.020 All right.

02:09:54.900 Next question is from Bolt Builder Sierra Chapman from Odinshoff,

02:09:59.400 who will be at Charming the Plow at Njordshoff this weekend.

02:10:03.260 So I get to see her in about 24 hours.

02:10:06.260 I'm very excited.

02:10:07.280 She's awesome.

02:10:08.060 We're excited to have her there.

02:10:10.160 She says, how excited are you for Charming Go the East?

02:10:13.100 Will you be joining us in our gator excursion?

02:10:16.160 When you answer that, I'm going to use the restroom real quick.

02:10:18.800 Cool.

02:10:20.420 As far as the gator excursion, maybe.

02:10:24.020 It'll depend on the money situation and time.

02:10:26.860 I just started a new training routine.

02:10:31.440 Kind of a modified version of what Mike Menser started.

02:10:34.680 If anybody is curious, nobody's curious.

02:10:37.500 I'm just talking.

02:10:39.360 But I need to make sure to get to the gym on Sunday.

02:10:43.880 So it'll depend on if I'm able to still get to the gym after the gator excursion thing. 0.93

02:10:50.320 Am I excited for Charming the Plow?

02:10:51.800 Yes.

02:10:53.020 So I'll tell a little story just to kill time and to give people a story about my personal life, I guess.

02:11:01.920 The second to last time I was allowed to leave bloat at Thorshof before we got in Jordanshof.

02:11:10.200 And keep in mind that at this time, the whole East Coast, the whole Southeast, including Georgia, of course, was part of Thorshoff District. 0.55

02:11:16.500 And I went through the whole Gothar program while I was at Thorshoff.

02:11:23.080 The second to last blow I was allowed to do there was for charming the plow.

02:11:26.340 And we did. We charmed the plow and Swann, Witten Swann, dug the first furrow in the ground behind Thorshoff with the blessed plow.

02:11:36.620 And we each had to put in a goal of ours, right?

02:11:39.700 um and mine was for my wife to get pregnant for us to be able to have a child so uh you know

02:11:46.900 that was three years ago now because that would have been 2022 and of course it you know we

02:11:53.460 went through a couple losses in those two years uh up to that point but now she's

02:12:00.780 32 weeks on friday everything's going well the doctors keep talking about you know how

02:12:06.680 like ridiculously healthy the baby is and whatnot so it took a few years but that goal that

02:12:13.640 i wanted achieved at that charm of the plow three years ago is finally you know coming to fruition

02:12:20.840 those seeds of victory that i you know talk about were planted not to be gross i guess but

02:12:28.660 no that's cool i did not i didn't i mean because we don't usually talk about what we right put in

02:12:34.120 the furrow so that's cool yeah well yeah so um yeah it all came full circle and so now you know

02:12:41.140 we're having her baby shower at the event during the men's and women's groups and so it feels very

02:12:47.760 full circle and it's uh kind of rambling the long story short is i'm just very very blessed

02:12:54.800 and I look forward to

02:12:57.260 just sharing this event

02:12:59.420 with you guys

02:13:00.060 and seeing

02:13:01.840 various friends of mine that I haven't

02:13:05.540 gotten to see in a while

02:13:06.440 like I haven't seen the Erickson since

02:13:08.880 Sigur Blow and that was just Githya Katie

02:13:11.500 because she was there to help me cover for the 0.97

02:13:13.220 All's Harrier Goethe, I haven't seen Witten Erickson

02:13:15.560 and I guess it's the last

02:13:17.560 Ostara, yeah I'm very

02:13:19.580 excited to answer the question

02:13:21.060 Nick

02:13:23.620 brought up something too um about that question kolga um and in it for the nine daughters of

02:13:33.640 ayer and again the the the beings of water generally have nine daughters new earth has

02:13:40.020 nine daughters ayer has nine daughters but um yeah i i did i always thought it was like

02:13:47.920 cloga with a the l in front of the o um and that i just very interesting that he you know but i'm

02:13:56.800 also kind of fun fact my mother is named after one of the daughters of um uh round her name is 0.99

02:14:05.120 bauda which means like a crushing wave and i mean she was she could yell the paint off a house but

02:14:11.840 um yeah so anyways i wanted to point that out that mistake there was clarified by nick

02:14:20.480 and now that's that's awesome uh my mother is not named after any of

02:14:27.040 those but uh she could also be uh crushing at times uh see next and last question so far

02:14:37.680 uh ryan orion voton since his question trent i found a trent east channel of a guy playing guitar

02:14:45.300 uh through glass looks like you how long ago was that i would love to say that's not me but yeah

02:14:51.740 that's that's me that was uh eight or nine years ago i don't think i was even an apprentice folk

02:15:00.520 builder yet uh I certainly had not started dating Madison yet because you know you meet a pretty

02:15:08.060 girl and everything else kind of goes out the window um including playing guitar and singing

02:15:13.740 thankfully because I was not good at the singing part yeah I uh used to write music and play a

02:15:20.860 little bit and uh around that time I had kind of gotten the hang of um playing and singing at the

02:15:26.320 same time my singing voice is garbage uh but i had these skills like the technicalities of it down

02:15:33.040 and i was pretty excited about it so uh yeah that was that is me from a bajillion years ago

02:15:42.240 to answer your question um i just saw something come in here on uh by jackson reds um he's saying

02:15:51.320 And, you know, reading Jung and Nietzsche goes a long way with a deeper understanding of pagan thought.

02:15:56.620 I would also add on there, too, I mean, all knowledge is good knowledge.

02:16:02.560 And different times in your life, you'll find the usages of those writings.

02:16:10.640 But two of them, Tyr, T-Y-R, named after the Lord Tyr, there is a series of books, volume one, volume two, volume three.

02:16:28.280 I believe it goes up to volume four now.

02:16:31.100 And I haven't quite got that one.

02:16:33.480 That series of books is really good on also getting a deeper understanding. 0.96

02:16:38.740 And when you say pagan thought, I know what you're referring to is that kind of clearing of a lot of our less desirable things that we have gained from being inundated into a Semitic faith.

02:17:01.980 um and also to on being a pagan by Alain Benoit yeah I'm almost positive that's the 0.92

02:17:15.800 yes it's called on being a pagan by Alain a-l-a-i-n d-d-e

02:17:25.320 benoist is how it's spelled but you know how french is um is another interesting

02:17:32.440 book so the tears book series is really really good particularly volume one i think

02:17:39.480 is fantastic it's a lesser known one i think it's one that people kind of forget about

02:17:45.820 and it's the one where uh stephen flowers who is edward thorson brings up um the purpose of

02:17:53.920 folkish faith um and i think a lot of people have a tendency to tuck that away um it's again very

02:18:03.000 we're uh worth looking into um yeah

02:18:09.120 okay we don't have any other questions at the moment so i'm going to take a second to

02:18:19.020 once again plug

02:18:20.900 the event this weekend, Charming the Plow

02:18:23.100 at Njortzoff.

02:18:25.060 Yep, there's

02:18:26.140 that link.

02:18:28.820 You can click it and you can

02:18:30.280 navigate the site until you find it.

02:18:33.000 If you're on MeWe,

02:18:34.520 it should be the featured or pinned

02:18:36.740 post in the Moots and Meetups group.

02:18:40.060 If you

02:18:40.960 are, for whatever reason,

02:18:43.320 listening to this as you're already

02:18:44.760 racing down to the Hoff, that's fine.

02:18:47.340 Do not attempt to order

02:18:48.820 tickets on your phone while you're driving. That's dangerous. Instead, wait till you get

02:18:52.740 to the Hoff and we'll square up with you there. Yeah, we made sure to purchase food

02:19:01.860 for more than how many are currently attending. We always overestimate by a bit. Feel free

02:19:08.180 to bring auction items. Feel free to bring money to buy auction items. Children are welcome,

02:19:16.820 of course bring your family whatever is is uh gill is gonna be there right gilbert

02:19:25.700 yeah the the the the wood craftsman the one that makes amazing plout bowls he carved up

02:19:34.900 uh a godstead of oh yeah um that's my kinsman gilbert page yes yeah um yeah i believe he is

02:19:44.420 sharing an airbnb with myself and gothy mayos i'll see him pretty soon yeah i was gonna say

02:19:51.780 for people who uh as far as auctions go like if you're looking for a hlout bowl from uh an

02:20:00.100 house who's you know well established in the community and just a great guy um definitely

02:20:09.620 seek some of his stuff out it is amazing what he does his um his wood shaping he's

02:20:19.540 it's it blows my mind he made the icelandic replica of um thor sitting with the the beard

02:20:29.140 hammer um for me as well so yeah it was unbelievable stuff yeah he um he has this

02:20:39.500 thing where he's like oh man i'm so tired from working on this one and only one thing and we're

02:20:44.740 like okay that's awesome gilbert then he'll come to an event and have like three dozen things and

02:20:49.620 we're like where did these come from um yeah he's a great guy um you get to meet him and talk to him

02:20:58.480 if you uh show up to the event and that is always a good time uh we did have one more question come

02:21:05.680 in from bobby millhauser how do you deal with it when it does get bad with your friends or family

02:21:12.000 or how did you handle it personally um oh in relation to our faith yeah i think so yeah

02:21:18.440 i i assume that's what you're talking about you can correct me if that's not it but i'm pretty

02:21:22.580 sure that's what you're talking about. Uh, essentially I, I just kind of had to stand

02:21:29.600 firm. Yeah. And, um, like witness Vaughn said too, and I should have thought to say this myself.

02:21:35.100 Yeah. But, uh, some of my family members would, you know, if they heard that I was folkish and

02:21:40.240 that's, you know, evil, meanie racism or whatever, they'd sit down with me and be like, well, how do

02:21:45.120 you actually feel about all this? And I would tell them, you know, that I am proud to be white

02:21:50.080 as they should be proud to be white and black people should be proud to be black

02:21:53.860 asian people should be proud to be asian etc it's the natural setting for mankind we all have

02:22:00.220 in group preference and anybody who's worked in schools or the corrections system or the military

02:22:09.980 or anything will see that has seen that play out is essentially the point i made and i still to this

02:22:18.780 day have black friends i was joking with one of them because he was asking about the docs

02:22:23.100 uh a while back and he was like you know okay well if you're allowed to be proud to be white

02:22:28.220 can i be proud to be black and i was like yeah it's encouraged and he was like all right cool

02:22:32.700 you know but and you're i don't want my kids marrying your kids is that cool too and i was like

02:22:37.900 yes and that's normally that's how it's always been you know it's not like an insult or whatever

02:22:46.700 uh yeah and jackson red said i don't trust anyone that isn't proud of themselves and their people

02:22:52.200 that's a good rule of thumb keep in mind too though with uh white people specifically

02:22:57.520 we have that soul sickness that the ulterior gothe and uh our founder steven mcnell have 0.79

02:23:02.680 spoken about it's not necessarily an untrustworthiness in them always it can be for

02:23:12.120 sure but a lot of times it's just that sickness manifesting itself uh because i used to be like

02:23:17.840 that you know i was raised by you know 90s democrats and so it you know it happens and

02:23:25.080 you just have to break out of it and all of our folk are capable of breaking out of it it's just

02:23:29.120 you have to want to kind of or be forced to uh what do you think about all that witness fun

02:23:34.040 well and i i think it's interesting because we come from kind of the different sides you spoke

02:23:39.880 about the folkishness that really, and again, you started out at young and folkish right out the

02:23:48.260 gate. I really didn't. I came out from a religious angle that I, when I introduced it to my family,

02:23:59.680 I immediately got hit from more of a religious angle. My brother had converted to a really

02:24:07.820 thumping Christian church. And he tried to convince my mother that this was not good and 1.00

02:24:20.220 you have to take him to church and so on and so forth. And then my grandmother passed away

02:24:27.600 in Iceland. And so we flew up to Iceland and my brother and I were on the same plane and we were

02:24:36.700 already very cool with each other as far as like just we didn't really it was uh cold if you will

02:24:45.260 and um i got a chance to meet yormunger ingi who was the alzher jargovi of the ausa through failure

02:24:55.660 then so i went there to meet him as a secondary thing and my brother at the same time

02:25:06.700 did a secondary thing where he went or was trying to start some church in iceland and i think that

02:25:13.820 was the tipping point we had went out the night before got a little um you know sauced before the

02:25:21.900 the the funeral and he told me that he was doing that and i just suddenly felt this kind of like

02:25:28.000 overwhelming sense like i'm i'm coming here trying to recultivate the faith of our people

02:25:33.420 And you're coming here bringing this, you know, another wave of Christianity. The Icelanders have already been through Catholicism. They didn't like it. They are already been through Lutheranism. And now you're bringing, you know, whatever this, I don't even know if his was, but I was just knifing at him.

02:25:53.000 you know it's your mega church um strip mall christianity and i was like that's not what we

02:26:01.000 need and no matter how many iterations of the lie you try to sell and it was brutal in this

02:26:08.120 uh little pub in in Reykjavik um and he was pretty upset at me it was an awkward flight home

02:26:17.000 um sometimes those things need to happen but at the same time is it worth the loss of your

02:26:26.320 family members i don't think it is um so i would say

02:26:31.600 be ready to just simply defend your faith um and remember that most people if they're christians

02:26:42.100 in your family that uh don't like your faith it's because of their faith their faith tells them if

02:26:50.020 that they you know their god is of unconditional love but if they don't follow these conditions

02:26:55.540 they're gonna burn um there's a caveat and there is the whole your leg is broken from birth with

02:27:02.980 original sin but i've got the crutch so there's a lot of flaws on their faith that you can point out

02:27:11.780 but don't go to the point where you are burning bridges i i think that you should take a calm

02:27:19.220 and composed sense do the opposite of what i did i got all fiery hot um instead you know simply

02:27:29.460 just point out this you know our faith has been around for thousands of years before christianity

02:27:36.420 came to europe and christianity was only around for a few hundred years before it moved into europe

02:27:44.980 it wasn't there in the middle east um you know that you have uh a perfect you know point and

02:27:55.060 validity they might ask you like oh what's going to happen if i you know don't believe in your

02:28:01.620 gods it's like well first off my gods have never stated that you're gonna get you know chewed up

02:28:08.580 in a wood chipper if you don't worship them um and that we all return to our ancestors unless

02:28:15.140 you do something that the gods and the ancestors warrant to make you a needling other than that

02:28:23.220 um you know you can be confused all you want in your life about the gods about divinity

02:28:28.980 but at the end you and i will have this discussion later and i will be telling you i told you so um

02:28:37.940 so go with it with some poise if ever you need a uh talking points bullet points i would say

02:28:45.300 reach out to your godhar and ask um them uh about talking points that you could bring up

02:28:55.460 in order to defend your faith and um with the with the hopes of resolution not just nuking

02:29:05.780 the whole thing um yeah because i would not recommend that

02:29:13.620 uh strip mall christianity is great i will be uh taking that one i've been trying to

02:29:18.740 come up with a term for that it's real big in the uh outer atlanta area here that i'm in you

02:29:25.220 You know, there's in my specific small town, there's lots of normal kind of down to earth Christians who are we can call them focused to an extent.

02:29:34.540 I guess, you know, they're good people. But yeah, you get closer to the cities and these like, you know, worshipping Jeebus at a at an old rundown Ford dealership, you know, kind of stuff going on.

02:29:46.460 And I think I think Madison was calling it like car dealership Christianity or something.

02:29:52.960 but strip mall is a bit more, uh, a bit more, um, compact. So I'm going to use that. Uh, 0.89

02:30:01.920 Gauthier Mayo asks, gentlemen, can both of you speak about where you see the church another 30

02:30:07.120 years? How many Hoffs by then? Uh, Gauthier Mayo is another one of the people you will be able to

02:30:12.000 see if you attend Charming the Plow at Njortzhoff, which you should do. Uh, 30 years. I'm going to

02:30:19.560 say 10 hops 10 more hops not 10 total so 14 total uh so at that point we will have gotten

02:30:27.120 what the way the elsewhere currently has it laid out if we were to have 14 hops

02:30:32.680 we would have 12 of the uh i see you're listed in the gilfaginning as well as uh all mother frig

02:30:39.980 and uh holy freya um i don't know what's after that i would assume it would be

02:30:46.340 various brides of the isere or possibly the maidens of fensaler i'm going off on a tangent

02:30:54.160 um no i would i would argue too that if we could have the hof of the holy frig and have the maidens

02:31:03.880 of fensaler have uh the hof dedicated to the holy freya and then you know maybe groves dedicated to

02:31:13.760 the Alcineer with outdoor shrines or what have you. 0.95

02:31:19.760 But I don't think you're wrong.

02:31:23.760 I don't think you're off the mark there.

02:31:27.440 I figured it'd be one of those options.

02:31:30.920 Surely we're going to continue to honor the Alcineer after we get through the 0.99

02:31:34.920 12 ISEER.

02:31:36.660 As far as in general, where the AFA will be in 30 years,

02:31:40.340 i think we talked about this the last time spawn and i did an episode together but um it's always

02:31:45.900 a fun topic uh i think we'll have a lot more members a lot more folk builders a lot more

02:31:52.680 gothar um i would assume the witten will be expanded a little bit not much a little bit

02:31:59.800 if at all um i like to think we would have like monasteries or academies i guess whichever sounds

02:32:08.460 less corporate uh for our gothar students where they can sit and and study the program that's

02:32:17.120 the almost the experience kind of that witten young gothi stam and i had at thorshoff

02:32:23.300 because we were all ordained at the same time went through the program together under

02:32:26.940 witten spawn here uh at thorshoff and we weren't we didn't live there you know and

02:32:32.280 pray uh to alsa thor daily at his mural or anything cool like that but we were there every

02:32:39.260 month for the pretty much um you know putting in work and bugging spawn for opportunities to do

02:32:45.720 stuff so uh again i went on a tangent but no yeah that's um the hof on mars thing i don't know if

02:32:57.180 that'll happen in 30 years, but surely in a hundred, right? Elon's working on stuff.

02:33:03.060 Um, I think some of those 10 Hoffs would have accrued by then will be in other countries.

02:33:08.600 One in Sweden would be great. Um, one in maybe,

02:33:17.180 maybe in Germany and England by then as well would be cool. Uh, one in Ireland would be neat,

02:33:26.060 but yeah that's roughly my vision of 30 years from now i suppose what do you think witness

02:33:33.000 i'm i'm right there with you um i think that the hoffs uh dedicated to the house or

02:33:41.860 and that would just be like putting it over the top with having um the hoffs towards holy frig

02:33:49.560 and holy freya um and i think that would be great because a lot of folks don't realize 0.80

02:33:55.520 you know it's it does we real we in the afa realize that it sucks that um you know you you

02:34:05.000 come into the faith and it's like okay there's a hoff like right down the street from me right

02:34:09.520 and oftentimes that's not the case i mean i live almost five hours away from thor's hoff and go

02:34:15.780 there twice a month um and bring all of my kids and back and forth um you know you have to make

02:34:26.660 these these are the times because there was a time when there were no hops um so i'm hoping one day

02:34:34.180 at least with the 12 we can have epicenters and if we could get something like what you were saying

02:34:39.860 Like, perhaps just a place at Sigurheim where every Gothar student could come there for, say, a week in the summer and conduct all of the things they need to conduct while being held, you know, by their hand, maybe under the tutelage of Al-Zaragothi or, you know what I mean?

02:34:59.580 like that would be a very cool thing and it would be like you know uh not so much a monastic life

02:35:08.620 for years but you know a summer or start off with just a couple of weeks getting people to

02:35:16.220 kind of have a chance to break away and just live asatru um and help out around sigurheim and

02:35:25.020 You know, do physical labor, do mental labor and spiritual labor.

02:35:32.860 I think to the plans, and I spoke about this before, about getting a college set up would be super important.

02:35:47.140 But I'm kind of right along with you on the Hoffs and membership.

02:35:52.140 membership, getting people to start changing the way they see Ausitru. Ausitru is not

02:35:58.160 a faith that you just get to kind of covet because it makes you feel cool,

02:36:07.300 but that we have a real problem that our folk, the more that our folk are conditioned and bent 0.99

02:36:14.660 And really, their minds have been messed with by the Semitic faith. 0.98

02:36:23.440 We need to bring people home. 1.00

02:36:25.400 That's huge.

02:36:26.780 And so, you know, reaching out across the table to people and saying,

02:36:30.540 hey, you know, you should come and join me for bloat.

02:36:34.260 You should come to our hof and at least see what we do

02:36:38.600 before you cast a judgment on us.

02:36:41.500 And I think that you'll be more surprised to find a lot of people going, wow, I don't feel like this is what I had in my head, because it's in their blood and it will stir them up.

02:36:55.440 Again, the biggest thing that we're fighting against is damnation.

02:37:01.060 The idea that has been just burrowed in their head is that if they don't follow the rules, if they go away, if they step off the plantation, if they jump the fence, they're going to be burned, et cetera, et cetera.

02:37:20.620 So we have to fight against that.

02:37:23.140 And that's one of the biggest things.

02:37:24.520 and i think that alone is worth trying to save people to kind of free them from the prison within

02:37:30.280 themselves um and the and the relationship of you know uh again if you don't honor me

02:37:40.280 completely that's what you get that's not that's not good so right that would be that

02:37:47.080 would lead us towards more folk is having aussitrew folk like again it's not proselytizing it's not

02:37:56.920 about spreading the faith it's about like saving your your folk kind of removing the veils off

02:38:03.480 their heads um in in essence when the christians came into europe they felt that they were saving

02:38:11.960 these you know european souls and um you know you might find a lot of these christian kind of his

02:38:20.200 historians saying like oh it was so terrible before and we were just so much better and it

02:38:26.860 was the love of jesus that we clearly know that's not the case um we clearly know that everything

02:38:32.520 that's kind of sold versus kind of the reality um so we should i think have the same vigor

02:38:43.560 of wanting to have that veil removed off of our people's heads and it you know they are okay with

02:38:53.080 with us being, you know, conservative or liberal Christian, et cetera, et cetera.

02:39:01.160 They are terrified of us waking up to our folk faith.

02:39:04.980 They are absolutely terrified.

02:39:07.780 And I think that we should, I think it should be incumbent upon us to seek out and remove. 1.00

02:39:16.380 And we should have it in the same gusto that the Christians came in and, you know, kind of assaulted on Europe and just systematically with ursery and battles and bribery and weddings, etc. 1.00

02:39:32.680 Now, I'm not saying we go that far at all. But what I am saying is that we we should be willing to step up and press forward and say, no, in actuality, you're the one that's, you know, you've been taught that anything outside of this tiny little Middle Eastern Semitic bubble is, you know, demons and evil. 0.99

02:39:55.800 And if you don't kowtow, you're going to get punished.

02:40:01.840 And, you know, your soul and the expression of who you are is bent on this kind of proselytization or not, but prostration, this kind of bowing when reality, you know, we are a people of heroes.

02:40:18.380 we are a people of glory and we should be pushing for that and not you know chains around our neck

02:40:27.980 sorry i soapboxed on that one that's a worthy worthy one to soapbox on uh

02:40:36.060 i was listening to one of his conversations with somebody else

02:40:41.340 Yeah, I have a tendency to be pretty brutal. And again, it's not just Christianity. I would argue against Islam. Islam wants us to have our heads off.

02:40:56.280 I would argue to certain sense of Judaism. I know that some of Judaism is folkish, but there are other points in which, you know, they're reformed and, you know, the kind of encouragement of other religions, the encouragement of Christianity in a way. 0.97

02:41:17.120 it's uh it's is it has its all of its own problems so i would like to say that for the record because

02:41:25.680 i know that a lot of like leftists will pick on christianity um but won't against anything else

02:41:33.440 and it's because it's just that falseness they they they're actually anti-white and they view

02:41:39.680 christianity as being white and that's why they're attacking that specifically so that's

02:41:45.520 what i always say yeah these you know people on twitter or wherever they're like oh my god the

02:41:50.720 west is taken over by anti-christian people and no they're just fine with the christians in africa

02:41:56.960 or asia or the middle east well the africa native not so much the ones near their holy land but uh

02:42:04.960 yeah no they're just anti-white um they're anti-western civilization in the truest sense 0.95

02:42:10.160 which is white people, culture, white culture. Um, Bobby Milhauser kind of, um, rephrased his 0.76

02:42:17.960 question and said, how do you deal with your friend or family's, um, rejection of, of you,

02:42:24.100 I guess when, when it does get bad, how did you overcome it? That one, uh, and the answer will

02:42:29.880 be largely the same, but, uh, for me, and I want to preface this by saying the whole forgiveness,

02:42:38.600 turn the other cheek thing is not a moral requirement for us like it is in christianity

02:42:45.280 but you do pick your own battles and of course there are going to be you know situations where

02:42:49.700 you'll choose to forgive or not forgive someone and it's sometimes it's reasonable sometimes

02:42:54.440 unreasonable right um but it is your choice so uh in 2019 when i got doxed for political stuff

02:43:03.280 but then people also got mad at me for afa stuff uh i you know i didn't um necessarily cut off any

02:43:12.640 of my family but because they're part of that kin fence they are my blood they're my family

02:43:18.580 and i told them like hey i'm not going anywhere you are the ones who are choosing to leave me

02:43:24.480 behind i'll be here i will not move you know um but i'll be here if you choose to return

02:43:33.060 essentially um and i know you know from their point of view is probably the other way around

02:43:37.700 but that's how you need to be is strong like an oak stand your ground um i would encourage you

02:43:46.900 depending on how they those family or friends acted to be willing to consider forgiving them

02:43:53.140 depending on what happened of course and that's up to you but yeah that's how i would

02:43:58.040 handle that and how i've overcome it in the past

02:44:01.460 um i would think it's also super important for you not you trent but like for the questioner um

02:44:13.100 to remember that you are on the correct path i think that a lot of times because of the delusions

02:44:22.060 of Abrahamic faiths that they are in mentally that you begin to like, am I, am I crazy? What's

02:44:31.560 going on? No. Remember they're on the crazy path. You are on the path of sensibility where your

02:44:40.600 blood is, where your people are. And even to the point where, you know, again, all of that stuff

02:44:46.300 could not be washed away. So it had to be laminated over. But in Matthew 10, verse 34 to 36,

02:44:59.440 there is a point where the rabbi Yeshua says, do not think that I have come to bring peace

02:45:08.240 to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. And I know that like

02:45:13.800 the the based internet deuce vault christians like to like tout that but they don't talk about

02:45:20.880 the other half and i'm bringing it up because it pertains to to your question because it says you

02:45:26.620 know i'm not here to bring peace but a sword for i have come to set a man against his father

02:45:32.880 and a daughter against her mother and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law and one's

02:45:39.760 foes will be members of one's own household so that is stating that their intentions

02:45:52.000 are to cause this breakup this destabilization what it really reminds me of is like when um

02:46:01.780 when the like left-wing people get all crazy during thanksgiving and they're like i'm gonna

02:46:08.860 of preach the word at my Thanksgiving just to, you know, rouse up my, you know, family that isn't

02:46:18.140 aware about marginalized people, et cetera. I'm not going to talk about marginalized people in

02:46:26.120 other countries, like, you know, in China or in African countries. I'm going to talk about here

02:46:31.600 because that's where it only matters um so you see this kind of like call to break apart

02:46:39.460 uh to it is it is uh it is a yacht and mindset to dissolve and to soak up the bits and pieces

02:46:49.840 so the person that takes it badly is the one at fault you are speaking of your faith right and

02:47:01.140 And they, I assume, if they're taking it super badly, then their religious fervor comes from, say, perhaps that they are extremely religious in the belief.

02:47:15.620 And they're worried for your soul, and they think you're going to be punished.

02:47:19.800 And again, remember, you're dealing with the cult member.

02:47:22.500 You're dealing with the one off.

02:47:24.180 You're dealing with the one where in the very words of their book, they're saying, take your sword and go and carve up the legion sees that you have in your family.

02:47:35.840 That's you're not the problem.

02:47:38.580 So once you get that in your head, like, OK, wait, no, I'm not the problem.

02:47:44.160 These these people are built in a like this, this cult crazy mindset.

02:47:49.840 that um the biggest thing I would say is uh you know there's nothing that

02:48:00.640 you like there's nothing that you can do to assuage them there's nothing that you can do

02:48:07.540 to make them think differently they in essence the code word on that one is they're so buried

02:48:12.880 deep in the cultishness that you can't unprogram them,

02:48:19.580 but you can say simply, you know, I am living my faith.

02:48:25.120 I will not hate you.

02:48:29.940 And I will continue to do it as I'm doing.

02:48:32.540 And if you ever change your mind,

02:48:34.680 if you ever kind of evolve from this,

02:48:39.740 whatever this is, I'm, I will be here.

02:48:42.680 And I have had so many friends who have from politics to religion, et cetera, they have all kind of chased like dogs chasing cars.

02:48:55.920 They're back and forth and up and down.

02:48:58.760 And a few of them, not all of them, I really wish it was more, but a few of them have noticed.

02:49:04.900 No, like Svan has maintained.

02:49:08.960 He's, you know, been of this faith.

02:49:11.340 A lot of the guys in the military even noticed it, you know, like, yeah, oh, you're still doing all that Viking religion stuff, you know, I've maintained, I have, you know, I have a wonderful house with a wonderful family in it.

02:49:28.460 So my house is filled with love and joy. All of these, you know, successful business, all of these things that I think that people that just hate on other religions are like, ah, you know, why isn't, why isn't Yahweh punishing him, et cetera, et cetera. 0.58

02:49:47.300 And then I've even had somebody say, oh, the reason why you're not being punished is because Satan and his demons are helping you out.

02:49:56.300 And I'm like, OK, it's one way or the other.

02:49:59.040 But again, you're dealing with lunacy.

02:50:01.760 You're dealing with aberrant thought.

02:50:05.720 So you can't make it make sense.

02:50:09.380 You just need to know that if they decide to cut their ties with you, you should leave that open.

02:50:16.300 You should say, hey, I can't make you agree. I can't fix, you know, I think that, you know, if you ever change your mind, you can always come back and we can start again.

02:50:33.040 because the oath between you is in blood and again for us oaths are

02:50:39.580 they're they're organic sometimes when it comes to the way that we deal with each other i don't

02:50:46.540 think that even if they say something terrible i don't think that you should be like you know

02:50:52.240 completely cut it off because if you do that you'll never allow people to evolve they could

02:50:56.800 have a whole thing where they go to these churches they realize they're not getting anywhere it's

02:51:02.420 strange and there's a lot of drama and, and what have you. And then they come back to you and

02:51:09.380 they're like, you know what? I, I'm a little interested as to, you know, you've been

02:51:14.800 out of truth for so long. What's it about? And the whole thing turns over.

02:51:24.460 Yeah. I liked your bit there about, um, you know, we're actually the normal ones and the,

02:51:30.900 The Christians don't view it that way, obviously, but we're the normal ones.

02:51:34.840 Something to consider, too, and I'll kind of relate this to Gothi stuff, kind of, just so everybody has an idea of the mental picture of it.

02:51:44.580 So when Gothi or Githia performs Bloat, the idea of it is we're supposed to be building a bridge, laying the foundation of a bridge to walk and connect with the Iser.

02:51:56.620 and through the afa and modern alcatru and its reforging what founder mcnallan and that kind of

02:52:06.300 older generation the more recent uh haylingman that have days of remembrance and stuff elsie

02:52:11.220 christensen alexander red mills etc what they did was um they laid the bricks of uh the bridge

02:52:20.140 for early Alistair true or the reforging of Alistair true and you know these Christians

02:52:26.620 may have seen the bricks being laid for a bridge off in the distance and it didn't bother them but

02:52:30.580 now they see their own people their own kin walking across it our generation right now we're

02:52:35.520 walking on those bricks that were laid by Stephen McNallan or law speaker turnage

02:52:41.240 uh etc hopefully he doesn't hear this and get mad that I called him old but

02:52:46.180 um that older generation you know they did that for us now that we're walking across it it's being

02:52:52.540 noticed and yeah just as Witten Spahn said keep in mind we're the normal ones right you look at

02:53:00.160 pictures of our gatherings and stuff it's all normal people we have you know we have

02:53:07.480 anywhere from kids to allen aged people we have uh men and women and only men and women no made

02:53:17.480 up genders um we have skinny people we have less than skinny people or more than skinny i guess

02:53:24.340 um you get the picture uh we're the normal ones it this is our faith it's our birthright

02:53:32.420 as Witten Erikson has famously said so yeah it I wish there was some answer to your question that

02:53:41.360 was kind of uh you know a cure-all or anything but there's really not you just have to stand

02:53:47.240 your ground and remind yourself that you're on the right side of things and um just so you don't

02:53:52.540 feel alone I suppose all of us every single one of us has been where you're at to some degree

02:54:00.060 Many of us are still there. Many of us have gotten through it. Most of us have gotten through it or are through it or whatever. So, yeah, it's not a situation unique to you. You are not alone. And if this is ever bothering you, feel free to email the Gothar or hell, you can text me. My number is 678-901-2040.

02:54:25.420 Uh, I think Antifa already put my phone number on the internet a few years back, so it won't

02:54:31.600 hurt to put it on YouTube.

02:54:33.040 Um, but yeah, reach out if you ever need to talk about this stuff one-on-one as well.

02:54:39.000 Cause I know it can be, um, it can be heavy.

02:54:43.300 So I, I wanted to say too, I've used this a couple of times.

02:54:47.660 I just forgot the numbers of the verse, but in Matthew 10, verse 14, because, again, a lot of these megachurch, strip mall churches, they have pushed the proselytization.

02:55:04.480 and I've always kind of hit him with Matthew 10 14 which is basically where the rabbi tells

02:55:13.740 his disciples as they go into these villages if no one wants to hear your words if no one wants

02:55:20.040 to welcome you know the the gospel and it's historically interesting because this is basically

02:55:26.360 a a small cult within judaism and these guys believe that you know there's this living

02:55:34.880 messiah or messiah and they they're trying to convert other um jews and he says though 0.64

02:55:44.080 you know if you go in there and they don't take the word that i am spreading then have them dust 0.68

02:55:52.580 off or dust off the dirt or dust of your of your feet and move on it's it's basically a

02:56:01.940 i you know i don't want to hear it you know i know you feel super inclined to preach to me

02:56:12.640 but at the end of the day i think it's just best that you wipe the dust off your sandals

02:56:17.280 um so yeah

02:56:21.480 uh bubblegum underscore man cool name uh do you agree with oswald spangler's take that

02:56:32.820 christianity set the cultural framework for marxism and progressivism yes uh it it uh so

02:56:40.520 that was the, you know, that was the transvestite ideology of its day when it hit Europe and 0.99

02:56:47.220 it hit, uh, you know, Rome and all that, that was, it spread through slaves, um, the Jewish 0.92

02:56:54.960 people, because Christianity is just Judaism to electric boogaloo. Um, it spread through 0.96

02:57:04.860 slaves jewish people and uh women right and then of course from there uh through greed 1.00

02:57:11.240 as we've spoken about on here before um

02:57:15.400 so yeah i i have not read much of spangler's work i if he was the one that wrote about

02:57:23.920 the sort of idea that every era is defined by one great man i read some stuff about that but i

02:57:32.280 haven't read his works directly but he's right in that assessment yeah yeah there is a book i

02:57:40.240 believe called the dark awakening that talks about um the uh dawning of christianity in the roman

02:57:49.420 empire um it's certainly you know and we get taught when we're kids oh you know like uh um

02:57:57.840 the what is it i can't i forgot it now the the lion's den you know they were throwing christians

02:58:05.880 in the in the stuff but they never talk about what the christians were doing and that book

02:58:12.040 explains a lot about how they were politically and religiously destroying the infrastructure

02:58:18.380 of rome and then when you meet guys online that are like oh well christianity united europe and

02:58:26.580 did this well most of the knights and even like during the viking age they converted to christianity

02:58:33.860 for money they converted to christianity for lands they had no idea about christianity they

02:58:39.460 were still fighting with european spirit um you know so that that organization that kind of

02:58:49.540 deuce vault mindset that a lot of those guys have is really sad because they're

02:58:55.940 in essence writing on the coat tails of european heroism and they were just organized with money

02:59:03.620 and pointed to go to the middle east and they did and it siphoned out so many you know men from europe

02:59:14.260 so um again the concept is no they're the weird they're the strange ones they're the ones off 0.91

02:59:24.180 They're the ones that you got to kind of contend with because they're in their own crazy little headspace.

02:59:33.780 And once you realize that, then it's best for you to be the adult.

02:59:37.660 It's best for you to kind of not burn the bridge, but realize you can't, you know, break them of their conditioning.

02:59:45.460 It's just not going to happen.

02:59:47.140 at least with them you don't have to worry about particularly violent reprisals like you do 0.91

02:59:53.480 with other abrahamic faiths like with with islam so yeah um anytime a christian uh or christian

03:00:03.520 christians online or wherever say that we're the strange ones just remind them that circumcision

03:00:09.140 exists there you go oh yeah uh yeah the the you know or if they talk about how um like when i've

03:00:20.660 brought up that that christianity has slowly degraded um european like identity european

03:00:29.380 culture and they'll say no no it it expounded it and then i'll say no circumcision perfect example

03:00:36.820 it didn't happen right away but it eventually happened and there were knights there were

03:00:43.140 like christian zealots that were looking for the foreskin of jesus if that doesn't like

03:00:50.900 send off alarm bells that this is not in your cultural wheelhouse i don't know what it is

03:00:58.180 the search for the holy preface is what it's called that's a wild rabbit hole to go down

03:01:03.940 yeah um yeah look into that i think y'all's here at gothea discussed circumcision here too

03:01:11.700 um and just because we're on it i guess and to fill time um so i have a son on the way we've

03:01:17.880 already decided we're not doing that i'm not gonna bring you know this kid into the world

03:01:24.340 who's supposed to be my favorite person everybody like all right buddy we're chopping a piece of

03:01:28.400 you off, you know, two days after he's born. Right. Remember to, uh, substitute for, for

03:01:34.060 child sacrifice, you know? Yeah. You know, I just, I won't, I won't, uh, I don't want

03:01:42.480 your son, but I'll just take a piece, you know? Yeah, no. Um, and for anybody wondering,

03:01:49.200 I've researched it cause I'm, uh, as I've mentioned before, I'm a skeptic in literally

03:01:53.660 everything but this, but the

03:01:55.800 Oustru and the AFA. 0.75

03:01:59.520 I looked into the whole circumcision thing.

03:02:01.760 It is not necessary.

03:02:03.500 It's just not.

03:02:05.540 Wouldn't recommend doing it. Your choice,

03:02:07.820 of course.

03:02:09.540 But yeah, I wouldn't recommend it.

03:02:13.780 Yeah, with that, we don't

03:02:16.280 have any more. I was going to say

03:02:17.580 thank you, Bobby Millhauser

03:02:19.600 for your kind words. Oh, yeah.

03:02:21.760 Yeah.

03:02:23.660 yeah i'm glad this um you know this has been able to uh touch people and kind of

03:02:32.220 get you know reach people that's excellent i'm glad people take something from it

03:02:39.180 um yeah uh and we're here every week not we specifically spawn is every other week

03:02:45.740 week um but yeah i mean oh vns is here yeah yes uh yeah with that guys i'm gonna try and get some

03:02:57.200 sleep so i can make the drive to njordzhoff tomorrow morning i hope to see as many of you

03:03:03.080 as possible there and if i don't see you there i hope to see you at ostara at thorsoff in exactly

03:03:08.620 one month all right so uh hail the ice here hail the folk hail the ass true folk assembly and

03:03:16.440 remember victory never sleeps night y'all good night everyone

03:03:38.620 We'll be right back.

03:04:08.620 We'll be right back.

03:04:38.620 Thank you.

03:05:08.620 Thank you.

03:05:38.620 Thank you.

03:06:08.620 We'll be right back.

Asatru Folk Assembly - February 20, 2025

2⧸19⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 137 - Helgakviða Hundingsbana I

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