00:05:39.060uh witness fawn you got any top of the show stuff oh i was gonna say um definitely you know charming
00:05:49.960of the plow for you guys in florida that's really really good we just had ours most people i don't
00:05:56.720think they know um every hof has their holy tide on the third weekend but every national event is
00:06:04.340on the fourth weekend of the, of the month. So, um, you know, for, for, um, March, you'll be
00:06:12.480seeing Ostera on the third weekend from all the other Hoffs and then the national event on the
00:06:17.260fourth. Um, but yeah, I mean, Florida, it's a great time to go down and break away from all
00:06:22.540the cold. I, I would love to be down there right now. I'm buried in almost, you know, six, seven
00:06:28.180inches of snow um which is super rare in this area um and you know just uh again everybody's
00:06:38.140there both like founder mcnowen and sheila are coming yeah that's uh mostly like that
00:06:44.860uh um yeah i mean good stuff i i think anybody who has the ability to go out to national events
00:06:53.960should make you know the strives to do it to get out there um whether you you know group up with
00:07:01.740people maybe you know if you're a member look up in chat and see who's getting airbnbs uh or local
00:07:09.180hotels or or whatever you can and and definitely try to make it out it's you know generally a
00:07:16.360a process of like the first night getting there on Friday is um relaxed and um you get to know
00:07:25.180people and then you get pretty much hit right out the gate with a very powerful bloat to one of the
00:07:31.900the outs of our religion and generally it's it's Lord Odin it can be Lord Thor especially at our
00:07:38.520our hoff and um and it's you know chest rattling um level of uh power going on there and then
00:07:50.120the next day is you know meeting folks doing stuff with the kids um hanging out
00:07:59.640having some discussions i know like the ladies will do like a discussion group sometimes
00:08:04.280and then um we go into like storytelling and uh you know auctions um i mean just it's great and
00:08:15.240then we you know we do a very powerful bloat and then finish off with a stumble and i think the
00:08:21.560stumble is um unique i know that you and i have been to so many symbols and each one of them kind
00:08:29.480of has that unique fingerprint of power to them as you get to hear other people's stories and
00:08:37.160hear about their ancestors and um and then you know yeah sunday is saying goodbye and going
00:08:44.680back into the world where um yeah not everyone is asa true and it's kind of a wake-up call um
00:08:53.160But yeah, I really urge folks to try to reach out and do that and meet with some of the top people in the Alistair Folk Assembly and ask questions and just get a feel for who we are.
00:09:12.160And the fact that we have them relatively close together with Charming of the Plow and the Ostara this year, if you're on the East Coast, definitely try to come out.
00:09:23.160yeah for sure um you know like you said a lot of the top people in the afa will be there
00:09:32.660okay wait first off since you did that i'm gonna you're uh i don't know i didn't mention it before
00:09:44.300but um you've been in the astro focus assembly longer than i have
00:09:48.140i i met you you were a member and i was like a brand new member um at the austra in georgia
00:09:57.880ticket uh yes yeah it was down in hampton yeah yeah and i think the only thing was just like
00:10:05.060you you were younger than you were so like i think that the the church was still trying to figure out
00:10:11.720you know where you were at and again youth are generally uh um i think a lot of people join
00:10:19.620and kind of flake out i think this is a problem that we constantly face because people don't take
00:10:25.500our faith seriously we do and then they see that this this religion that they just kind of want to
00:10:32.840express their edginess in is is serious so then they they run away or or they break off or they
00:10:41.560have some little grievance with someone and um yeah you know but having three youth that joined
00:10:50.920and um just you guys like you know being serious um you in particular you know and then
00:11:02.740cultivating it's like gave me hope being an older guy it was just like wow you know these
00:11:08.480there are some young guys who really are serious and they're they're pushing it and they understand
00:11:15.680the seriousness of of the plight of our people and our soul sickness and so i i think you sell
00:11:21.520yourself short when um you know you say that you're not a key person you i think you've been
00:11:28.140around long you've been around longer than me and um and you've definitely gripped in and shown
00:11:34.360numerous times that you are uh here for the the long haul this is your faith yeah y'all are uh
00:11:43.220stuck with me um yeah no i'm just making a joke uh my point was yeah there's gonna be a lot of
00:11:49.740great people at charm of the plow it's a big deal that the mcdallens will be there they have not
00:11:54.340been to njortzoff yet and this is the fourth year that we've had it so and it's the 30th
00:12:01.660anniversary of the afa and so they get to you know see where their legacy has come to so far
00:12:08.380um i'm super excited for them to see the mural too oh yeah they're gonna love it steve's gonna
00:12:14.540stand there staring at it for three hours gonna have to like make him move to do ritual i put a
00:12:19.820lot of easter eggs in there so oh yeah yeah yeah he's gonna be asking everybody questions about it
00:12:28.220Um, yeah, he's going to love that. But a couple more things before we start that I forgot to
00:12:34.960mention, like I said, still getting used to this hosting thing. Um, GW Farnsworth donated $25 to
00:12:41.940VNS. Uh, once again, thank you, Mr. Farnsworth. You do this every week and it's really, really
00:12:48.840appreciated and it certainly adds up and it goes a long way. And yeah, the generosity just means a
00:12:56.780lot and it does it helps um i can uh nick can you write down can our gw farnsworth if you have
00:13:06.920an address could you please write that down i'd like to send you something
00:13:10.760um if you could send it maybe to nick or you know back channels you don't have to
00:13:16.940do it on here okay excellent i'm gonna send i i gotta send something to you uh anyways yeah
00:13:26.460didn't mean to cut in there oh sorry uh yeah the other thing i was going to mention we are
00:13:33.560close relatively speaking to paying off the orders off it was our most expensive half by far there's
00:13:39.760the graphics that'll help me speak correctly uh we're about three quarters the way through
00:13:45.200let's see yeah only 55 000 remaining that's a lot i know in the grand
00:13:53.140And, you know, that five-figure number there seems like a lot.
00:13:58.140But as it says on the screen, we've paid off $189,000 already.
00:14:04.440And once we get this paid off, we can start the quest for Frazehoff, really, you know, tie that down, make sure our monthly income is correct.
00:14:15.080all of the uh awesome folk builders and clergy in that area can start preparing to uh
00:14:21.740you know be the stewards of their own hof and uh your son will finally have a temple again
00:14:29.060for the first time in at least a thousand years so let's see i'm gonna ask this question before
00:14:37.440we get started because it relates to charming of the plow yeah yeah uh use the restroom while you
00:14:43.800do so. Okay. Folk builder Sarah Alt says, good evening, Witten's Fawn and Goethe Trent. Lots
00:14:50.780of people traveled to our Hoffs last weekend and will be attending Yortsoff this weekend for
00:14:55.300Charming the Plow. It's so wonderful to see. If unfortunately folk are unable to attend,
00:15:00.320what are some ways they could celebrate Charming the Plow at their own homes, whether as a family
00:15:05.020or solitary um well it essentially you know it kind of goes back to looking at the holy tide
00:15:16.860in relation to the holy tides around it so before this was thora bloat and that was you know we've
00:15:24.200just made it through the darkest part of the winter it's time to you know celebrate that
00:15:28.600we survived essentially and that we've made it into a new year uh ostara which is next month
00:15:35.240ahead of this one is you know spring is here it's arrived it's things are warming up flora and fauna
00:15:44.180are coming back alive reawakening so charming of the plow is about essentially you know
00:15:52.760pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps and kind of getting ready to get back to work
00:15:57.040during the warm times of the year our ancestors would um kind of break the first ground start
00:16:03.460planting crops and of course it's 2025 and uh our folk do a lot of amazing things so thankfully we
00:16:09.700do not all have to be farmers very few of us in fact and that's that's awesome but we still like
00:16:16.500to celebrate and recognize how our ancestors used to live and we can still take the mindset and the
00:16:23.340cultural ideas of those times and apply them to the here and now uh as far as how i practice
00:16:29.780charming the plow i actually learned how to do it from wit and spawn so what i say what he says
00:16:34.680are going to be similar but i'll go ahead anyway um what we do is and i always celebrate at
00:16:42.800north top but i suppose if i were going to do it here at the house what i would do is give bloat
00:16:49.480to uh yngwie frey as he is uh the god of all green things uh god of the world or all the good
00:16:57.400and ask him to bless our tools because we do have a garden here at the house so you know
00:17:03.880bless our garden tools our garden uh and we would create the first furrow with one of those tools
00:17:11.320and, you know, pour some of the blessed mead in there
00:17:16.620and sort of probably do what you guys do at Thorsoth
00:17:25.600or something we want to have accomplished by or around Freyfaxi
00:17:30.200and kind of bury that in the soil there.
00:17:33.020Witten Swant, what would you guys do to celebrate Charm of the Plow at your home
00:17:37.500or what could members do to celebrate that camp you can do a hop this weekend?
00:17:43.380I mean, exactly kind of what you were saying.
00:17:46.800And there is that consistency that we are starting to build in Alcetree,
00:17:52.060where there would be some commonalities.
00:17:55.580And I think that one of the things that's unique to the Alcetree Folk Assembly
00:18:00.600is the understanding about Charming the Plow being the starting of an arc.
00:18:07.500um and and in particular with lord fray or i mean with holy the holy fray excuse me i gotta get out
00:18:14.560of saying the lord fray because that means the lord lord uh the holy fray um and you know i just
00:18:23.440wanted to expound on what you said there was just for people at home this is that moment um where
00:18:31.820lord uh where the lord is gathering the alvar and he is about to enter into the middle world
00:18:43.060he's about to descend down and what really you know is required is the opening of the gates
00:18:51.240Once Dellinger's Hall is barred shut, Ostara or Oster, you know, she will open up those gates and let that warmth in.
00:19:03.520And once she does, Frey and his retinue will come in and begin the processes of spring and all of that vegetative growth and all of that redundancy of, you know, our animals and what have you.
00:19:21.240And I think it's important for people to realize that this is the beginning.
00:19:27.760The midpoint for this arc would be midsummer.
00:20:07.360And we have the symbolic leaving of the horse that he leaves her, that we, you know, we eat.
00:20:14.860And this goes back to traditions of leaving the final sheaf of wheat in the field for John Barley corn, which is kind of, you know, post-Christian.
00:20:33.980This cycle is unique and we have cycles within the years.
00:20:40.180Obviously, there's the the major points in which we're looking at midsummer.
00:20:44.420We're looking at midwinter and we're looking at Ostara when she opens the gates and we're looking at winter nights when the gates close and the veil between the living and the dead grow so thin.
00:21:00.720But this kind of unique cycle is, you know, really, really important as far as it comes from our agrarian past.
00:21:11.240You said a lot of us aren't farmers anymore. And that's a good thing in the sense that, you know, our ancestors have struggled and, you know, claimed our ability to live different lives and not have to, you know, gruel away as serfs.
00:21:32.860But the agrarian nature of most of our holy tides is still super apparent.
00:21:39.620So if you were at home and you don't have a plow, I would say, yeah, digging a furrow with a small shovel.
00:21:49.880If you're in a place that's so cold that the ground is not relenting, utilizing a spike
00:21:59.320or something really heavy, or you could just adapt by placing something in a potted plant
00:22:07.560that will be removed or be brought outside when it's warmer, but when you focus on, there's
00:22:18.720like two things one if you're at home placing something in the furrow a a seed as we call it
00:22:25.440at thorshoff we write down something that we want to accomplish in the summertime um it's warmer
00:22:32.320we have you know it's the time we go out we get the horizon so if you have that seed you write it
00:22:42.160down and it can also be things that you want to let go of things you want to conquer uh it could
00:22:48.340be like, I want to stop doing this. You know, so sometimes they can be very personal, and very,
00:22:55.660very deep. Other times, it's just, you know, I want to expand my business, I want to buy a new
00:23:01.100property, I want to, you know, buy a car for my daughter, or whatever it might be. These little
00:23:08.500challenges, these little focused goals. And I always tell people, write them, fold the paper,
00:23:14.920right on top and bottom and then put one in the ground and take the other one with you um
00:23:23.260but if you are at a hoff I I plead I beckon with you please bring something from your
00:23:33.480work um not enough people do this um and you know Thorblot is about food and fun but it's also
00:23:43.660about having your hammer blessed and not enough folks um i think we're bringing their hammers
00:23:50.220um and then for charming of the plow you know bring something of your work um if you wear a
00:23:57.260hard hat at work if you um have a stylus for a laptop or something something small that you
00:24:05.900bring to work but it's always kind of tied with you in your orlaw in your weird bring it there
00:24:12.300and ask the gothar to bless it it's it's a unique thing that you don't get if you're doing stuff at
00:24:20.380home um but you know it's kind of the combination of the two but if you um you know if you are at
00:24:29.900home holding a bloat uh lighting your candles ringing your bells saying your prayers uh blowing
00:24:39.180the horn, calling to the gods, uh, calling to Lord Frey, calling to Gerðr, who is an
00:24:45.460oust veneer, um, calling to Yarth of the earth, the good, the good mother of the earth, as
00:24:54.640opposed to Gríðr, who is the dangerous mother of the earth, um, but calling out to Yarth
00:25:02.680and uh placing in mead or bread placing in loaves um making your own personal loaves
00:25:10.860and then pouring mead upon them and then covering them in the ground however you dig them in but
00:25:17.540you know you you do this exchange we always kind of you know call the call the gods announce
00:25:25.060to them what you're doing is in essence what we are we're not calling them as if they will
00:25:30.640they they don't have the ability to be around you know they they are gods they can be around
00:25:37.420but we're announcing what we're doing and um we're announcing that we're holding troth and
00:25:43.480we're holding tradition every year and uh we want to be noticed and then you know you do an exchange
00:25:51.620of mead um from your mouth and from your words into the horn and pour that into the lout bowl
00:25:59.540And then you take that hlout bowl and when you dig that furrow and you place that bun or bread in, you pour that mead from the hlout bowl into the furrow, into the bread.
00:26:14.160place your goal into the furrow and close it up and then give thanks for the gods that have
00:26:26.500come to listen to you, to hear your proclamations, and then you follow through. And that's the real
00:26:35.420kind of nitty gritty of charming of the plow. We have the plow as a symbol of the ingenuity
00:26:43.360and the drive of our people, but, uh, it can be done with a trowel. It could be done by hand
00:26:56.760Yeah. That does remind me if you're coming to New York's off this weekend, uh,
00:27:00.860and I may have forgotten to announce it, or it's been a while since I did, uh, yeah. Bring a,
00:27:07.240a tool of your trade or, um, you know, come prepared to have your hands or your head or
00:27:12.960your heart blessed or whatever like uh y'all's hair if you want his heart blessed um you know
00:27:18.980uh some people wanted their hands blessed because they work with their hands um things like that
00:27:25.000you know one guy brought in this huge weed eater one time that was logistically a little tough to
00:27:30.700make work but we did um you know uh the law speaker will be doing the bloat and the actual
00:27:38.560charm of the plow and the blessing of the tools uh this go i believe he's doing the blessing of
00:27:43.600the tools as well this year so that's gonna be a great time he's uh all of his rituals are very
00:27:49.040special he puts a lot into him we all do but uh a law speaker turnage ritual is just a very specific
00:27:55.280kind and i hope you all get to be there and see it uh with that we'll hold off on the questions
00:28:02.640for a bit we want to go ahead and start the uh hunting's motto yeah uh let me give a like kind
00:28:09.200of brief um squaring up for folks that may have missed last or um yeah so we're going to be doing
00:28:17.440it off of uh volospow.org and uh these are bellows translations again this is interesting because the
00:28:28.560reoccurring character of Helgi. In this case, Helgi is reborn. And so Helgi and Svalva of the
00:28:40.400older poem are reborn in to this poem. And it's specifically mentioned, but the big thing that I
00:28:49.040would say for folks who are listening to this is that we're going to, and we will pick it apart,
00:28:53.440is really good to look at, there are, you know, poetic kennings, and there are really good things
00:29:02.820that kind of give us a glimpse into the cosmology of our ancestors, into the traditions of our
00:29:11.480ancestors, etc. That's why these are, you know, the sagas and the heroes are really worth looking at
00:29:19.480because they give us more of how our folk did things um and describe in in fairly good detail
00:29:32.240excuse me and i um so i mean i definitely want to expound on some stuff um
00:29:40.740And I think that the other thing that's worth noting is the overarching concept of rebirth.
00:29:51.200You know, I think it's reincarnation is a very important subject in relation to Ausatru
00:29:58.860because a lot of folks that are in, say, Eastern religions might think of a one-for-one
00:30:06.300that, you know, you pass and then you return immediately. We do not believe that at all,
00:30:13.360that we are very much in the deficit of our ancestors, that they are there. And another
00:30:21.700thing is that there is not this sense that every time you're going to entirely be transferred over,
00:30:30.620our ancestors see the parts of the soul as like a currency or a sense of boon that they can give
00:30:41.060their bloodlines if they're allowed to give it at all. And so, you know, sending up these boons
00:30:48.400to be born in your children, if you have a child that has traits from a good ancestor
00:30:56.260and you start to see these things or perhaps traits from an ancestor you don't even know about
00:31:03.640um but this is a good sign that they're carrying things that will elevate them elevate your family
00:31:12.780elevate you um if you see that the child is you know uh again carrying traits that are not good
00:31:20.960um sometimes that is the the lot that the ancestors have kind of you know um perhaps
00:31:29.440sent your way even for you know deeds that might be unbecoming of the of the ancestors um
00:31:36.360you'll see sometimes that new souls that come about you know are generally
00:31:42.600those indicators aren't there and the the child is a blank slate and it's really important upon
00:31:52.080the parents to uh make sure that the weird the orlog that they they imprint upon the new child
00:31:59.840the new soul um will formulate them so much so um every single way of this is
00:32:07.560uh you know crazy or not crazy but very very uh there's steep steep angles on it you don't and
00:32:19.060we don't know uh once we pass through the mist of hell um the ancestors kind of they have
00:32:28.800uh an advantage we they watch us they see us especially through the drippings of
00:32:35.900of Mimir, but we don't have a look into them. So this is another big thing is these souls
00:32:47.520cultivation. So let's say great heroes like Helgi. Helgi is brought forth again. Nidhogg,
00:32:56.780the corpse ripper or the serpent of the lower realm, he's trying to rip that root because that
00:33:04.660root draws up from Fjörgelmer. Fjörgelmer is the well in the bottom and in the lowest world
00:33:17.460where the ancestors are. They're farthest away, they're most protected from
00:33:23.140um uh the the onslaught upon heaven so that route is so important for the drawing up of pieces of
00:33:36.700the soul um or you know the uh large part of the soul in order to be brought back into the well of
00:33:47.660earth and entered into orlog so this process is complicated and it is not clear cut it's not
00:33:57.520defined i'm sure i will understand it fully after i die um but not until then um you know or you
00:34:09.640know the we could be raised up to be alvar we could be raised up to be dsir we could be raised
00:34:15.340up to live amongst the holy gods in heaven um and have that ascension but we don't really kind of
00:34:23.020learn that until we go through the process of becoming unwhole by uh hella's design hella's
00:34:31.900move and then we take that road and we enter in with our ancestors and then we get to understand
00:34:38.940this kind of secondary process of our um or possibly repeated but i think that lord odin
00:34:47.180in these cycles um is cultivating these glorious souls the souls that truly aspire
00:34:57.340um the ones that you can see are above they're cut in a different way they gleam differently they
00:35:06.700are you know just um perhaps not affected by time and the other things that confine us um and that
00:35:18.940is the that's the souls that i think lord othen is is really pulling into the heavenly realm and
00:35:26.300these cycles are important to kind of cultivate that ever since the first breath of aunt it has
00:35:33.900been a process ease and while we all get there no i was joking with producer nick i was like i
00:35:41.180i had my chance and and i didn't get it um speaking about going to the war and i was very
00:35:47.820dead set on going to valhall so i was in everything and on everything i could you know get into and
00:35:57.580it didn't happen and instead i gained a family and gained children and i i trust in the wisdom
00:36:04.060of lord othen more than my own inclinations to kind of be a edgy little youngin but um
00:36:13.900you know again we just have to understand that the processes is
00:36:18.060um it's figured out it it has its purposes and hierarchy is a thing you know and understanding
00:36:30.020our place in the world can be sometimes hurtful towards our desires and our pride but you have
00:36:37.920to trust that the gods are doing as they do so that was a very long rant about that
00:36:46.060hmm so again that's an interesting point of this story is the helgi of the first poem that we
00:36:57.760talked about two weeks ago this is a different helgi and it is mentioned in the beginning
00:37:04.700and instead of svalva as his love he now meets sigrun and now there are connections to the
00:37:14.080Volsunga Saga or the Ring of Dernibelung. In essence, Helgi is connected in birth by Sigmund,
00:37:30.660Sigurd's father. So Sigurd the Dragon Slayer. Are these legitimate? We don't know. We don't
00:37:40.100know if this was a poem that was written in denmark after and then was kind of put together
00:37:48.660or if this poem like uh the volsung saga is much older from the migration period and
00:37:58.640it kind of evolved as it went um we just don't know and there's a lot of debate and there's
00:38:06.980Certainly a lot of layers from that time in Denmark and so on.
00:38:11.320But, you know, I find it super interesting because it talks about some nuances, even to the point where, say, Helgi is buried in a barrow as opposed to being burned.
00:38:25.580So there's very little interesting things in there to kind of see how our funerary practices change depending on, you know, where people were.
00:38:36.980and what what things were available to them so that's why i recommend you sticking around
00:38:44.500and listening to this because there's a lot of good stuff that kind of is very nuanced in there
00:38:54.340um all right i guess what are we gonna we're gonna start as we start
00:39:00.340Let's see. So, right out the gate, here begins the poem of Helgi Hunding's Bane and that of Hothbrod.
00:39:19.440One, in olden days, when eagles screamed and holy streams from heaven's crags fell, was Helgi then, the hero hearted, Borthill's son in Browland?
00:39:41.640So right out the gate for anybody that's, you know, listening in at the VNS cosmology and about the understanding that the way our ancestors saw cosmology was very, again, it's distinct.
00:40:02.400and I think that people kind of just lost way of it.
00:40:07.540The heavenly realm was seen as an upper world
00:40:12.340on top of mountains, on top of Heimenberg.
00:40:17.920And these mountains contained Ausgard.
00:40:22.980They also contained other things like rivers
00:40:31.760So for a lot of folks that try to see Yggdrasil as some sort of cosmic tree and at the end of every root is like a bubble, or if somebody sees it as a tree that's rooted in the ground or in the underground and has all the roots down there, but it spikes up through another ground.
00:40:54.900And then at the tippy top, that's where the gods live. I think they're deviating from the way our ancestors saw it. The heavenly mountains were surrounded by golden clouds. That's where the light elves resided.
00:41:10.060and um they could they were there that the the the bivrost could come down that was a way for
00:41:19.120you to come in otherwise you had to scale the mountains like thor um when it's mentioned that
00:41:26.160he has to you know go of the long way around um and you know there what ausgar there isn't the
00:41:35.840entirety of heaven. Earth's well is there, Yggdrasil is there, the rivers around it, and
00:41:43.180the gods that took that place, carved out an enclave for them to be protected, and then
00:41:53.340distributed the realms within the realm, if you will. And that's why the gods are spoken of as
00:42:01.160coming down and going into jotenheim in the middle the middle world and or coming over the the the
00:42:07.640world of men or going into vanaheim um so as we have evolved as a religion we understand now that
00:42:18.840the upper realm in that that's mythological language um the upper realm is still upper
00:42:25.400still center um and yggdrasil is there and its roots descend that connect into um the middle
00:42:35.080realm or the lower realm and the movement between those in the stories is really important um
00:42:43.640so i think this emphasizes it again in the olden days when the eagles screamed and the holy streams
00:42:50.440or rivers um in the astro folk assembly we teach the gothar about the 11 rivers of heaven there's
00:42:57.88011 rivers in hell or hell guard or nivelheim or nivel hell we have a lot of different names for
00:43:05.880it there are also 11 rivers in heaven that flow there sacred rivers um amongst the gods and all
00:43:15.400of their names are very you know built around luck or um judgment and uh war uh kind of more um
00:43:28.760not theoretical but their their names their meanings are kind of the opposite of nivel
00:43:37.000hell's rivers which are uh you know the the crying out in pain or um the wound the battle wound
00:43:48.360river uh the cruel river so you can see when you look at these names and of niflheim you can see
00:43:55.160the ones that clearly stand out in heaven and then the the rest of them are in the in the middle
00:44:01.800world, sometimes separating us from Vanaheim or from Jotun. Anyways, sorry, I get into a cosmology
00:44:09.920like rant because I think a lot of people have twisted and changed a lot of the way our ancestors
00:44:17.540saw this. So the poetic sense of this is that the eagles are screaming as, you know, out there
00:44:27.400On Heaven's Mountains, where Odin's crag, Hlidskalf, is, where he looks out upon the world, the eagles are screaming.
00:44:42.180And this is a hearkening to a hero being born, being brought back into the cycle in the middle.
00:45:21.360say princes that does include you know princes how you know we mean it now but it also just means
00:45:32.160you know sons of nobility or nobility themselves like um you know a brave warrior you know if he
00:45:39.920was of noble stock could be called a prince i forget which how them all stands it is maybe
00:45:45.28051 uh it's the one about uh a prince's son should be joyous and generous etc i'm not good at quoting
00:45:57.380the hobble mall but yeah um well because there's two of them there's one that's he should be uh
00:46:05.620joyful even upon his death yes you know smiling and then there's another one that says like trust
00:46:12.740not your your sons uh until they've you know erected a a monument to their name like you never
00:46:20.740know how they're going to turn out it's always get those two yeah confused sometimes yeah that
00:46:27.620that one is um it doesn't necessarily mean the heir of the heir to the throne of some kingdom it
00:46:35.860it means you know a good noble man's sons so just something yeah the name for it here is
00:46:46.580kind of not the same like you'll see it in anglo-saxon the word that they'll use for
00:46:51.860prince or warrior they kind of interchange them is atheling um and i think a lot of people don't
00:47:00.580know that. The translator just tries to use what perhaps would best fit or create alliterative
00:47:09.940points. But I was just going to say in here, I wanted to look up. And the other thing is I really
00:47:17.300like to look up stuff because I'm never at the position where I want to say that I'm 100% correct,
00:47:28.060especially in relation to old norse um because there are so many linguistical variants and so
00:47:35.980when you have someone just saying like hey this is what it means you know um i remember someone
00:47:42.460was translating the um the name of the it was vit near um the river that goes around valhall
00:47:56.780and there is um like and they translated that to mean heimdall which again it's a really crazy
00:48:08.600drunk jump because it you know means like wolf people and i i really that's the moment when i
00:48:19.060realized like it's super important that we focus on um making sure that we check and we double
00:48:26.040check before we say anything, because that was just like a wild thing to say. And I had always
00:48:32.580been taught that around the halls of Valhall, there were Ulfithnar or Berserker or, you know,
00:48:41.520the wild warriors, the children or the people of the wolf. And it says, you know, in there in
00:48:48.380gremnismal that they patrol around um the hall again to to portray that a very safe
00:48:56.460and security is high but for somebody to say oh no that means heimdallur was like
00:49:03.460what so i at that point it made me really begin to question people's translations and also my own
00:49:13.680But I do believe that the word in here, if anybody has the computer, um, is all the Lingi and I am, I am like trying to find it. That's the other part is I never know exactly what I'm going to have to look up for the night.
00:49:32.420so i have my notes but then something like this will creep up um
00:49:39.120i just wanted to check really quick and i really hate to leave you know dead
00:49:46.880air um or i don't know maybe nick could could look up uh all the lingy for me real quick
00:49:55.820or anyone in the audience too i've got a question uh we can answer real quick that's fairly short
00:50:03.400um and i'm gonna skip past some of the earlier ones because this one's easier to answer sorry
00:50:08.060guys uh drb 87 says hey just started learning about this stuff which translation do y'all
00:50:15.040recommend also what book should a newcomer read please and thanks as far as translations
00:50:21.080a lot of people really like the hollander i do too um the bellows is what we're using for this
00:50:28.400specific thing i enjoy bellows stuff uh thorpe is pretty okay on all the stuff
00:50:33.540uh jackson crawford i don't like him as a person because he thinks alsatru is silly but wants to be
00:50:43.240uh you know this authority on it so that's douchebaggery at its height in my opinion
00:50:51.080and i wouldn't recommend his translation not that i think there's anything academically wrong with it
00:50:55.480but he views the lore and all this work as kind of uh it's it's it's just a study for him it's
00:51:03.800just a research project so uh that being said we can fix him yeah i can fix him um
00:51:13.240Uh, as far as stuff, a newcomer should read, I've got two that I recommend that are like
00:53:32.520Have Hoffs and we're going to have many
00:53:34.600many many haunts yeah or even just the the physical um i think that tacitus was saying that
00:53:44.280you know we make our gods um in like human form and the germanics don't but clearly we do
00:53:52.760and even clearly by the uh the nordic viking age they were also doing that um
00:54:02.780so you know i think that was more of a jab towards rome um yeah he uh he had this
00:54:12.140a lot of it was too yeah he was complaining about rome and being like oh we need to get back to
00:54:16.700nature return to tradition like uh our german cousins up north you know yeah and especially
00:54:23.660when it came to marital stuff he said that you know the germanic people only feel the need to
00:54:30.060have one wife um and they looked down upon people who had um sexual inclinations that were outside
00:54:40.140of of normality they if they were sleeping with animals or sleeping with the same sex they were
00:54:47.340they were um punished severely um they also talked about divorce and stuff like that that's a great
00:54:53.340book yeah oh yeah like every six months i love it um yeah the altar ago they would want me to
00:55:00.420point out too that the way they punished things like gross sexual deviance or homosexuality was
00:55:06.460rather than making a show of punishing it they would hide it away they would stomp the person
00:55:12.620into a bog they would treat it the same way they treated cowardice it was on that same level for
00:55:16.900them it was shameful for the whole tribe it wasn't like if you committed a murder and refused to pay
00:55:22.960the man price it was gross and disgusting and they just wanted to make you go away
00:55:29.680uh but we got off on a tangent there oh no i was gonna add um yeah i was gonna say if i had
00:55:38.000number one number two number three of translations mine would i'm right there with you hollander
00:55:45.040and then to be honest i prefer thorpe over bellows but the house of true folk assembly
00:55:52.960encourages anybody who's reading the adas to get multiple versions you can find them online
00:56:00.960so you know before you invest in paying for a book um except for hollander get hollander no um
00:56:09.840um uh you can actually read the verses um across each other specifically with like major poems like
00:56:20.160the volas bow or the halva maul that you can kind of get an idea as to which um translations you
00:56:30.300prefer um you know thorpe straightforward bellows is very you know kind of old english uh king james
00:56:41.740not or not old english middle english king james biblical kind of speech and hollander is a little
00:56:48.060bit more modern but holds to all of the um the uh poetics if you will and i was gonna say uh as far
00:56:58.700as you know faith goes um i mean there is a lot of books out there that you may find but you have
00:57:09.180to be very very careful and you can if you find books that are stating that you know the gods have
00:57:18.220you know desperate political positions if they are uh i know that like one group was trying to
00:57:25.180say that one of the our senior is the goddess of homosexual marriage when you see those little
00:57:32.780things those should be warning bells kind of popping off um letting you know like oh i don't
00:57:40.060know but i was gonna say for me the book of troth by edward thorson is it was there it was one of
00:57:50.780the first kind of books bringing forward Ausitru. It explains a lot of the structure of the bloat.
00:57:59.680It explains a lot of the reasoning. You know, the older ones are kind of hard to find, but there was
00:58:06.560a reprint. It was the book that brought me into Ausitru when I was 13 years old. There was no
00:58:14.280internet. I came across it at an old bookstore and, um, it, it made me understand that this
00:58:22.580faith is, you know, more than, um, people just pretending or the fact that it's been
00:58:31.040so erased from our history. Um, so I, I really recommend that one too, because it goes over
00:58:37.980hallowing spaces and the purpose of transference between the horn to the bowl and giving gift out
00:58:47.380i think those are really like kind of key little mechanics that are worth knowing
00:58:53.540it looks like producer nick got us that word you were looking for
00:59:03.260I did. So you were right on your idea of it being related to atheling. That's exactly
00:59:14.040what it is. Yeah. So they have the Nordic version of atheling amongst the Anglo-Saxons.
00:59:23.280there's all the linger um is a person of gentle disposition um or you know of high disposition or
00:59:33.600someone who is um specifically it's somebody who possesses all those inspiration uh yeah um
00:59:43.760Um, yeah, I, I think that, um, a lot of folks too, I just noticed here in the, in the, uh,
00:59:54.480comments that, you know, Edred's bloat is a bit outdated. Yeah. I think that we have evolved
01:00:00.840from that. We have, that was, I think there were elements that perhaps were included. Um,
01:00:08.160um and i i think that most of the astra folk assemblies bloats don't follow that um one for
01:00:19.200one but it's worth as what it was doing at its time and uh kind of the basic blueprints um
01:00:31.740I think are very interesting and I think worth looking at, especially for me, I'm biased.
01:00:41.420I took the oath. He had a prayer kind of ceremony in there where the reverse of what Charlemagne was doing.
01:00:52.620And Charlemagne had a prayer saying, you know, you need to leave these gods. You need to, you know, leave the, you know, spirits of the Nordic or the Germanic folk and accept, you know, Christ and the angels.
01:01:11.760And Edra did a reverse one where he said, no, I relinquish Elohim or Yahweh.
01:11:23.540So he is given entitled to land and or, you know, kingdoms, if you will, or places, landmarks, the Sun Mountain.
01:11:37.480And so it's kind of explaining the vastness of his domain that he inherits by being born this warrior prince.
01:11:47.960mighty he grew in the midst of his friends the fairborn elm in fortune's glow so
01:11:58.780another good point to to kind of go out with here is that the ash and the elm tree in relation to
01:12:09.480humans. It's clearly utilized by both, but it was not gendered per se. It was not that all elms had
01:12:22.760to be a woman and all ashes had to be a man, especially in poetics. Ash could be utilized for
01:12:31.180you know everyone and in this case here he's he's referred to as an elm i think that
01:12:38.020some people get confused with that and i've also heard people try to twist and push that agenda
01:12:44.840um which i i just i don't think it's correct especially with poetics the idea of um the the
01:12:53.640usage of a tree has been um part of the poetics for a long while sometimes it wasn't even an ash
01:13:02.860or an elm you know sometimes it could be a yew tree and so this case here people will find this
01:13:11.340one little nugget and say oh that shows that you know this person was uh transgender or what have
01:13:19.360you. And I think that you should be very, very careful about people who link into one tiny thing
01:13:26.240to try to, you know, make, make the, the man bites dog story into the, you know, large of reality.
01:13:39.300So let's see to his comrades gold. He gladly gave the hero spared, not the blood flecked
01:13:48.180hoard the the riches gained by war short time for war the chieftain waited when 15 winters old he
01:14:00.080was hunding he slew the hardy white uh again that usage there the hardy white white being
01:14:09.560Not a color, but a spirit or the spirit of someone who long had ruled over the lands of men.
01:14:20.840So at 15 years old, which isn't so far out of the realm, if a lot of people understand, you know, that our ancestors' life expectancies were sometimes in the 50s.
01:14:34.740and um by the time you were 15 years old you might be getting a boat and expected to go
01:14:44.380or join a crew and go and fight overseas and you know marriage didn't follow that much
01:14:54.080you know after so the time scale might throw people off now but um
01:15:04.74011. Of Sigmund's son, then next they sought, hoard and rings, the sons of Hunding. They bade the prince requital pay for booty stolen and father slain.
01:15:20.940So now at 15 years old, Helgi slays Hunding and his sons come forth and say that you must pay the wereguild against slaying.
01:15:36.560And another reason why this lends towards the possibility that these poems are from the migration period is because of, you know, the slaying of kings or chieftains, especially during the Nordic period, was not generally met with asking for wereguild.
01:15:58.000um the the king didn't need to ask for wereguild instead there was generally a slew of men
01:16:06.640sons and retainers who would seek vengeance um and i think that this is one of those
01:16:14.860cases where it shows that there's this might be even further back in the migration periods
01:16:21.340and uh kind of the the relationships between the different tribes
01:16:26.460um the prince let not their prayers avail nor gold for the dead did the kinsmen get
01:16:38.720waiting he said was a mighty storm of lance's gray and odin's grimness
01:16:46.580so he says no there there is i will not give you any money i will not uh give you any
01:16:56.300recompense for the slaying of your father because there is a mighty storm there is a storm of battle
01:17:03.980coming and odin's odin will will be watching um as he knows what's coming
01:17:14.620uh and the warriors forth to battle went the field they chose
01:17:20.380The waterfall mountain, or the water mountain, the river mountain.
01:17:30.340um fro these peace midst foes they broke through the aisle went hungrily vidrir's hounds
01:17:42.100so at this point they uh war is unleashed between these groups and uh the peace um now you could
01:17:55.300You know, Froði has often been talked about as being a physical king of Sweden, and here this is supposed to take place in Denmark, but you could also kind of look at it as, again, this dreadful peace between the groups by the holy fray has been broken.
01:18:17.100And now war is, you know, released. Odin's hounds are battles as they go through and ravage the land.
01:18:34.180The king then sat when he had slain Eyolf and Alf, these are the sons of Hunding, Neath the Eagle Stone, Hjordvarth and Hovarth, Hunding's sons, the kin of the spear wielder, all had been killed.
01:19:00.400So now he's not stopping with hunting and he has, he's killing the, all the sons as well.
01:19:09.780And in a way, you know, they would be obliged or not even obliged.
01:19:14.820They would be 100% obligated to avenge their father.
01:19:20.040Um, and he fights through each of them, um, and, and gaining victory over them.
01:19:31.980Then glittered light from Loa Fjord and from the light, the flashes leaped high under helms on heaven's field.
01:19:44.700Their bairnies, their armor, their chainmail armor, with blood were red, and from their spears sparks flew forth.
01:19:56.700So now coming from Logofjord is the Valkyries.
01:20:03.940And Valkyries is an interesting subject when we talk about the older poems versus the late Nordic and even slightly post-Christian conversion.
01:20:14.700conversion, um, as, um, Valkyries were kind of seen as, um, whether you would say demigods
01:20:28.580or having the ability to live amongst the folk
01:20:33.900to be seen, to be captured or betrothed.
01:20:44.960Seeing the Valkyrie in the middle world in the hero sagas is not uncommon.
01:28:00.220There are hundreds, 12 of trusty men, but in Houghton lies the host of the king, greater by half. I have hope of the battle.
01:28:15.660So he says that they're now preparing for battle outside of, you know, Tron, Tron, Tron, Neyri, Tron, Neyri.
01:28:32.300And see this, these linguistics here, I'm, you know, trying to figure out exactly where they are.
01:28:37.780And I'm wondering if these are referencing to the Danish islands in between Zealand and Denmark.
01:28:45.660But here they have, you know, this gathering of folk and the idea that because he says there are hundreds, 12, you know, I don't know if this is 12, you know, 100 groups or if this is, you know, 112.
01:29:15.660But there's a large band as they prepare, and they feel like there's a chance.
01:31:30.280So where does that reference come from?
01:31:40.940So the waves are striking the keel full long as if cliffs were broken with the beating surf, and Helgi bade hire hoist the sails, nor did the ship's folk shun the waves.
01:31:54.720though dreadfully did Ayer's daughters seek the steeds of the sea to sink.
01:32:02.760So I really, uh, Nick, can you pull up at the, the nine daughters of Ayer?
01:32:10.760Is it, is Koga or is that just the way it's translated? That's throwing me off.
01:32:17.300For anybody that's, they're really laying in the poetics, the way that you would think, you know, these folk are Ausitru.
01:32:35.540And they're speaking about the primordial lord of the ocean.
01:32:39.760They're speaking about the Jotun that the gods have made, they've made an oath with, they've made a deal, they have taken the primordial ocean and brought it under the dominion, but not in the way that they have with others.
01:33:00.000They have not done it through marriage of the divine.
01:33:05.100They have not done it through offspring.
01:33:07.880And in this case, Ayer's waves, his daughters, are kind of grasping at the ship and ready to pull them down.
01:33:21.880and we see more of more references of understanding about the fear of ayer and raun um
01:33:30.880you know again for folks that might not have the computer in front of them
01:33:35.780i see a lot of folks say a gear but it's pronounced ayer and um ayer is
01:33:46.180It's kind of akin to perhaps with the Hellenistic, it would be like the difference between Neptune or Poseidon, Lord of Waters and Storms, and then like Oceanus.
01:34:45.860though dreadfully or sorry helgi bade hire hoist the sails nor did the ship's folks shun the waves
01:34:55.520Though dreadfully did Ayur's daughters seek the steeds of the sea to sink, steeds being the boats.
01:35:04.140But from above did Sigrun Brave aid the men, and all their faring mightily came.
01:35:13.160From the claws of Raun, the leader's sea beast, off Nipponund.
01:35:21.480Nippa meaning like kind of an arise, a lift or a hillock, a hilly place.
01:35:30.680So outside of there, Sigrun comes to aid.
01:35:35.860And this is where I wonder if they are speaking about her flying above the fight, which would, again, make the layering of moving away from a mortal woman to a Valkyrie, but blurring those lines.
01:36:22.180who is the monarch who guides the host
01:36:25.500and to the land the warrior, the warriors leads.
01:36:31.960Sinfjolti answered and up on an oar raised a shield all red with golden rim.
01:36:41.000A sea sentry was he skilled to speak and in words with princes well to strive.
01:36:49.280Say tonight, when you feed the swine and send your bitches to seek their swill, that out of the east have the Ilvings come, greedy for battle, to Nippa Lund.
01:37:07.240so now there's this exchange uh going across clearly insulting um that the the the ilvings
01:37:20.300or the wolflings have come and this is another reason why uh the danish the the building of the
01:37:28.400Danish uh peninsula the the Danes fought out the wolflings they they broke them and eventually
01:37:40.120you know pushed them out but in here they're speaking of these battles as being not necessarily
01:37:47.540um there's kind of again an honor amongst uh your your enemies if you will that the that they were
01:37:56.000not some easy pushover. They were clearly a hard-won fight between the Danes or the starting
01:38:04.600of what would eventually be the Danes and the Ilvings. And so this story, I think, you
01:38:11.640know, speaks of Helgi and them being of these, you know, great renowned tribes.
01:38:17.720um there will be hoth broad helgi find in the midst of the fleet and flight he scorns
01:38:27.480often has he the eagles gorged whilst thou at the cairn where slave girls kissing so
01:38:37.560So, he basically says that they're awaiting for Helgi will be Havgrawl, and he has gorged eagles with the corpses of the dead, and there will be many for them to fight.
01:38:54.640Um, so this reference here, um, about the, the, the Yotans or the slave girls at the grinding stone.
01:39:14.360um let me see i wonder if this is directly a reference to that story um
01:39:26.840he but he basically says you know that hothbrog has fed eagles while you know you were at
01:39:41.300the grinding stone um kissing slave girls and or it's kissing the help kissing the work um
01:39:50.260while he was you know you were just but a babe trying to uh figure out girls and he was fighting
01:39:56.820battles. And then Gothmund retorts, hero, the ancient sayings heed and bring not lies to the
01:40:10.960nobly born. Thou hast eaten the entrails of wolves and of thy brothers, the slayer been
01:40:18.840Oft wounds to suck thy cold mouth sought, and loathed in rocky dens did lurk.
01:40:27.860So here we see this exchange between, as we go back standing, it is Sinfjolti.
01:40:42.120Sinfjolti is now speaking forth to Govmund and he's speaking in kind of not representation, but he is able to answer back and he speaks back to Govmund saying, and then Govmund retorts.
01:41:01.860So these are kind of more or less poetic insults. And you'll always see one that is hugely thrown is that you are the slayer of your brothers.
01:41:16.600that is another reason why kin slaying and you know being labeled a needling um that is the
01:41:27.860highest one killing your own kin um because it was thrown around so much um with such disdain
01:41:36.700so he says you know you you were uh you were eating living like in the woods like a wolf
01:41:44.520and eating you were a cannibal and you know you slayed your brothers
01:41:51.340um and sin filthy speaks and i know i will say this is kind of a foreshadowing a little bit
01:41:59.880um but sinful speaks a witch in varen's isle thou waste a woman false and lies
01:42:08.040didst fashion, of the male-clad heroes thou wouldst have, nor no other thou settest, save
01:42:19.220sin-feelty only. So they're exchanging, you know, these barbs back and forth. And
01:42:32.180And there's a couple of like thoughts about this one where he's saying that you slept with a woman that had a child out of wedlock or, you know, with an unknown father.
01:42:46.080Some people have read it as that it was not a woman at all, but a woman dress or a man dressed as a woman.
01:42:57.280i don't fully know i think that most likely i'm just to be safe i think that they're referring to
01:43:05.120um a woman who has a child out of without a husband or without a father and um that was kind
01:43:14.080of you know the insult though or it also could mean to these saying like a a woman that was not
01:43:22.160yet a woman so these are clearly insults these are seen as negative things and uh are not being
01:43:30.480supported in that range so you know going with a uh a woman that you know the father
01:43:41.520you know left of or is of ill repute um going with obviously a man that dresses as a woman or
01:43:51.040a woman that is too young these are all considered kind of insults and so you know it's he's really
01:43:58.640jabbing um and also called her a witch culture you know like the interchanging with the idea
01:44:07.280that she's uh she's a temptress or a seeress of in the translation they use the word vulva but
01:44:14.720but, you know, kind of this evildoer, this worker of magics.
01:44:24.980In 38, a Valkyrie was thou, loathly witch, evil and base in all fathers' home.
01:44:35.700The warriors all must ever fight, women subtle for the sake of thee.
01:44:41.340nine did we in nine did we in uh saw guns of the wolf cubs have i their father was
01:44:57.600godman spoke though older thou art than i than all i know for thy gelded thee in in nipalund
02:01:16.040So those are also the wolfings or wolfings of East Anglia in England where my people come from.
02:01:23.640And I bring that up because a question we get a lot is someone will say, well, I'm English or I'm North German or I'm Dutch or I'm lowland Scottish.
02:01:36.560You know, I'm not Scandinavian, so I can't worship the Isir.
02:01:40.180So, first of all, the Isir are Aryan gods.
02:10:53.020So I'll tell a little story just to kill time and to give people a story about my personal life, I guess.
02:11:01.920The second to last time I was allowed to leave bloat at Thorshof before we got in Jordanshof.
02:11:10.200And keep in mind that at this time, the whole East Coast, the whole Southeast, including Georgia, of course, was part of Thorshoff District.
02:11:16.500And I went through the whole Gothar program while I was at Thorshoff.
02:11:23.080The second to last blow I was allowed to do there was for charming the plow.
02:11:26.340And we did. We charmed the plow and Swann, Witten Swann, dug the first furrow in the ground behind Thorshoff with the blessed plow.
02:11:36.620And we each had to put in a goal of ours, right?
02:11:39.700um and mine was for my wife to get pregnant for us to be able to have a child so uh you know
02:11:46.900that was three years ago now because that would have been 2022 and of course it you know we
02:11:53.460went through a couple losses in those two years uh up to that point but now she's
02:12:00.78032 weeks on friday everything's going well the doctors keep talking about you know how
02:12:06.680like ridiculously healthy the baby is and whatnot so it took a few years but that goal that
02:12:13.640i wanted achieved at that charm of the plow three years ago is finally you know coming to fruition
02:12:20.840those seeds of victory that i you know talk about were planted not to be gross i guess but
02:12:28.660no that's cool i did not i didn't i mean because we don't usually talk about what we right put in
02:12:34.120the furrow so that's cool yeah well yeah so um yeah it all came full circle and so now you know
02:12:41.140we're having her baby shower at the event during the men's and women's groups and so it feels very
02:12:47.760full circle and it's uh kind of rambling the long story short is i'm just very very blessed
02:16:33.480That series of books is really good on also getting a deeper understanding.
02:16:38.740And when you say pagan thought, I know what you're referring to is that kind of clearing of a lot of our less desirable things that we have gained from being inundated into a Semitic faith.
02:17:01.980um and also to on being a pagan by Alain Benoit yeah I'm almost positive that's the
02:17:15.800yes it's called on being a pagan by Alain a-l-a-i-n d-d-e
02:17:25.320benoist is how it's spelled but you know how french is um is another interesting
02:17:32.440book so the tears book series is really really good particularly volume one i think
02:17:39.480is fantastic it's a lesser known one i think it's one that people kind of forget about
02:17:45.820and it's the one where uh stephen flowers who is edward thorson brings up um the purpose of
02:17:53.920folkish faith um and i think a lot of people have a tendency to tuck that away um it's again very
02:18:48.820tickets on your phone while you're driving. That's dangerous. Instead, wait till you get
02:18:52.740to the Hoff and we'll square up with you there. Yeah, we made sure to purchase food
02:19:01.860for more than how many are currently attending. We always overestimate by a bit. Feel free
02:19:08.180to bring auction items. Feel free to bring money to buy auction items. Children are welcome,
02:19:16.820of course bring your family whatever is is uh gill is gonna be there right gilbert
02:19:25.700yeah the the the the wood craftsman the one that makes amazing plout bowls he carved up
02:19:34.900uh a godstead of oh yeah um that's my kinsman gilbert page yes yeah um yeah i believe he is
02:19:44.420sharing an airbnb with myself and gothy mayos i'll see him pretty soon yeah i was gonna say
02:19:51.780for people who uh as far as auctions go like if you're looking for a hlout bowl from uh an
02:20:00.100house who's you know well established in the community and just a great guy um definitely
02:20:09.620seek some of his stuff out it is amazing what he does his um his wood shaping he's
02:20:19.540it's it blows my mind he made the icelandic replica of um thor sitting with the the beard
02:20:29.140hammer um for me as well so yeah it was unbelievable stuff yeah he um he has this
02:20:39.500thing where he's like oh man i'm so tired from working on this one and only one thing and we're
02:20:44.740like okay that's awesome gilbert then he'll come to an event and have like three dozen things and
02:20:49.620we're like where did these come from um yeah he's a great guy um you get to meet him and talk to him
02:20:58.480if you uh show up to the event and that is always a good time uh we did have one more question come
02:21:05.680in from bobby millhauser how do you deal with it when it does get bad with your friends or family
02:21:12.000or how did you handle it personally um oh in relation to our faith yeah i think so yeah
02:21:18.440i i assume that's what you're talking about you can correct me if that's not it but i'm pretty
02:21:22.580sure that's what you're talking about. Uh, essentially I, I just kind of had to stand
02:21:29.600firm. Yeah. And, um, like witness Vaughn said too, and I should have thought to say this myself.
02:21:35.100Yeah. But, uh, some of my family members would, you know, if they heard that I was folkish and
02:21:40.240that's, you know, evil, meanie racism or whatever, they'd sit down with me and be like, well, how do
02:21:45.120you actually feel about all this? And I would tell them, you know, that I am proud to be white
02:21:50.080as they should be proud to be white and black people should be proud to be black
02:21:53.860asian people should be proud to be asian etc it's the natural setting for mankind we all have
02:22:00.220in group preference and anybody who's worked in schools or the corrections system or the military
02:22:09.980or anything will see that has seen that play out is essentially the point i made and i still to this
02:22:18.780day have black friends i was joking with one of them because he was asking about the docs
02:22:23.100uh a while back and he was like you know okay well if you're allowed to be proud to be white
02:22:28.220can i be proud to be black and i was like yeah it's encouraged and he was like all right cool
02:22:32.700you know but and you're i don't want my kids marrying your kids is that cool too and i was like
02:22:37.900yes and that's normally that's how it's always been you know it's not like an insult or whatever
02:22:46.700uh yeah and jackson red said i don't trust anyone that isn't proud of themselves and their people
02:22:52.200that's a good rule of thumb keep in mind too though with uh white people specifically
02:22:57.520we have that soul sickness that the ulterior gothe and uh our founder steven mcnell have
02:23:02.680spoken about it's not necessarily an untrustworthiness in them always it can be for
02:23:12.120sure but a lot of times it's just that sickness manifesting itself uh because i used to be like
02:23:17.840that you know i was raised by you know 90s democrats and so it you know it happens and
02:23:25.080you just have to break out of it and all of our folk are capable of breaking out of it it's just
02:23:29.120you have to want to kind of or be forced to uh what do you think about all that witness fun
02:23:34.040well and i i think it's interesting because we come from kind of the different sides you spoke
02:23:39.880about the folkishness that really, and again, you started out at young and folkish right out the
02:23:48.260gate. I really didn't. I came out from a religious angle that I, when I introduced it to my family,
02:23:59.680I immediately got hit from more of a religious angle. My brother had converted to a really
02:24:07.820thumping Christian church. And he tried to convince my mother that this was not good and
02:24:20.220you have to take him to church and so on and so forth. And then my grandmother passed away
02:24:27.600in Iceland. And so we flew up to Iceland and my brother and I were on the same plane and we were
02:24:36.700already very cool with each other as far as like just we didn't really it was uh cold if you will
02:24:45.260and um i got a chance to meet yormunger ingi who was the alzher jargovi of the ausa through failure
02:24:55.660then so i went there to meet him as a secondary thing and my brother at the same time
02:25:06.700did a secondary thing where he went or was trying to start some church in iceland and i think that
02:25:13.820was the tipping point we had went out the night before got a little um you know sauced before the
02:25:21.900the the funeral and he told me that he was doing that and i just suddenly felt this kind of like
02:25:28.000overwhelming sense like i'm i'm coming here trying to recultivate the faith of our people
02:25:33.420And you're coming here bringing this, you know, another wave of Christianity. The Icelanders have already been through Catholicism. They didn't like it. They are already been through Lutheranism. And now you're bringing, you know, whatever this, I don't even know if his was, but I was just knifing at him.
02:25:53.000you know it's your mega church um strip mall christianity and i was like that's not what we
02:26:01.000need and no matter how many iterations of the lie you try to sell and it was brutal in this
02:26:08.120uh little pub in in Reykjavik um and he was pretty upset at me it was an awkward flight home
02:26:17.000um sometimes those things need to happen but at the same time is it worth the loss of your
02:26:26.320family members i don't think it is um so i would say
02:26:31.600be ready to just simply defend your faith um and remember that most people if they're christians
02:26:42.100in your family that uh don't like your faith it's because of their faith their faith tells them if
02:26:50.020that they you know their god is of unconditional love but if they don't follow these conditions
02:26:55.540they're gonna burn um there's a caveat and there is the whole your leg is broken from birth with
02:27:02.980original sin but i've got the crutch so there's a lot of flaws on their faith that you can point out
02:27:11.780but don't go to the point where you are burning bridges i i think that you should take a calm
02:27:19.220and composed sense do the opposite of what i did i got all fiery hot um instead you know simply
02:27:29.460just point out this you know our faith has been around for thousands of years before christianity
02:27:36.420came to europe and christianity was only around for a few hundred years before it moved into europe
02:27:44.980it wasn't there in the middle east um you know that you have uh a perfect you know point and
02:27:55.060validity they might ask you like oh what's going to happen if i you know don't believe in your
02:28:01.620gods it's like well first off my gods have never stated that you're gonna get you know chewed up
02:28:08.580in a wood chipper if you don't worship them um and that we all return to our ancestors unless
02:28:15.140you do something that the gods and the ancestors warrant to make you a needling other than that
02:28:23.220um you know you can be confused all you want in your life about the gods about divinity
02:28:28.980but at the end you and i will have this discussion later and i will be telling you i told you so um
02:28:37.940so go with it with some poise if ever you need a uh talking points bullet points i would say
02:28:45.300reach out to your godhar and ask um them uh about talking points that you could bring up
02:28:55.460in order to defend your faith and um with the with the hopes of resolution not just nuking
02:29:05.780the whole thing um yeah because i would not recommend that
02:29:13.620uh strip mall christianity is great i will be uh taking that one i've been trying to
02:29:18.740come up with a term for that it's real big in the uh outer atlanta area here that i'm in you
02:29:25.220You know, there's in my specific small town, there's lots of normal kind of down to earth Christians who are we can call them focused to an extent.
02:29:34.540I guess, you know, they're good people. But yeah, you get closer to the cities and these like, you know, worshipping Jeebus at a at an old rundown Ford dealership, you know, kind of stuff going on.
02:29:46.460And I think I think Madison was calling it like car dealership Christianity or something.
02:29:52.960but strip mall is a bit more, uh, a bit more, um, compact. So I'm going to use that. Uh,
02:30:01.920Gauthier Mayo asks, gentlemen, can both of you speak about where you see the church another 30
02:30:07.120years? How many Hoffs by then? Uh, Gauthier Mayo is another one of the people you will be able to
02:30:12.000see if you attend Charming the Plow at Njortzhoff, which you should do. Uh, 30 years. I'm going to
02:30:19.560say 10 hops 10 more hops not 10 total so 14 total uh so at that point we will have gotten
02:30:27.120what the way the elsewhere currently has it laid out if we were to have 14 hops
02:30:32.680we would have 12 of the uh i see you're listed in the gilfaginning as well as uh all mother frig
02:30:39.980and uh holy freya um i don't know what's after that i would assume it would be
02:30:46.340various brides of the isere or possibly the maidens of fensaler i'm going off on a tangent
02:30:54.160um no i would i would argue too that if we could have the hof of the holy frig and have the maidens
02:31:03.880of fensaler have uh the hof dedicated to the holy freya and then you know maybe groves dedicated to
02:31:13.760the Alcineer with outdoor shrines or what have you.
02:31:36.660As far as in general, where the AFA will be in 30 years,
02:31:40.340i think we talked about this the last time spawn and i did an episode together but um it's always
02:31:45.900a fun topic uh i think we'll have a lot more members a lot more folk builders a lot more
02:31:52.680gothar um i would assume the witten will be expanded a little bit not much a little bit
02:31:59.800if at all um i like to think we would have like monasteries or academies i guess whichever sounds
02:32:08.460less corporate uh for our gothar students where they can sit and and study the program that's
02:32:17.120the almost the experience kind of that witten young gothi stam and i had at thorshoff
02:32:23.300because we were all ordained at the same time went through the program together under
02:32:26.940witten spawn here uh at thorshoff and we weren't we didn't live there you know and
02:32:32.280pray uh to alsa thor daily at his mural or anything cool like that but we were there every
02:32:39.260month for the pretty much um you know putting in work and bugging spawn for opportunities to do
02:32:45.720stuff so uh again i went on a tangent but no yeah that's um the hof on mars thing i don't know if
02:32:57.180that'll happen in 30 years, but surely in a hundred, right? Elon's working on stuff.
02:33:03.060Um, I think some of those 10 Hoffs would have accrued by then will be in other countries.
02:33:08.600One in Sweden would be great. Um, one in maybe,
02:33:17.180maybe in Germany and England by then as well would be cool. Uh, one in Ireland would be neat,
02:33:26.060but yeah that's roughly my vision of 30 years from now i suppose what do you think witness
02:33:33.000i'm i'm right there with you um i think that the hoffs uh dedicated to the house or
02:33:41.860and that would just be like putting it over the top with having um the hoffs towards holy frig
02:33:49.560and holy freya um and i think that would be great because a lot of folks don't realize
02:33:55.520you know it's it does we real we in the afa realize that it sucks that um you know you you
02:34:05.000come into the faith and it's like okay there's a hoff like right down the street from me right
02:34:09.520and oftentimes that's not the case i mean i live almost five hours away from thor's hoff and go
02:34:15.780there twice a month um and bring all of my kids and back and forth um you know you have to make
02:34:26.660these these are the times because there was a time when there were no hops um so i'm hoping one day
02:34:34.180at least with the 12 we can have epicenters and if we could get something like what you were saying
02:34:39.860Like, perhaps just a place at Sigurheim where every Gothar student could come there for, say, a week in the summer and conduct all of the things they need to conduct while being held, you know, by their hand, maybe under the tutelage of Al-Zaragothi or, you know what I mean?
02:34:59.580like that would be a very cool thing and it would be like you know uh not so much a monastic life
02:35:08.620for years but you know a summer or start off with just a couple of weeks getting people to
02:35:16.220kind of have a chance to break away and just live asatru um and help out around sigurheim and
02:35:25.020You know, do physical labor, do mental labor and spiritual labor.
02:35:32.860I think to the plans, and I spoke about this before, about getting a college set up would be super important.
02:35:47.140But I'm kind of right along with you on the Hoffs and membership.
02:35:52.140membership, getting people to start changing the way they see Ausitru. Ausitru is not
02:35:58.160a faith that you just get to kind of covet because it makes you feel cool,
02:36:07.300but that we have a real problem that our folk, the more that our folk are conditioned and bent
02:36:14.660And really, their minds have been messed with by the Semitic faith.
02:36:41.500And I think that you'll be more surprised to find a lot of people going, wow, I don't feel like this is what I had in my head, because it's in their blood and it will stir them up.
02:36:55.440Again, the biggest thing that we're fighting against is damnation.
02:37:01.060The idea that has been just burrowed in their head is that if they don't follow the rules, if they go away, if they step off the plantation, if they jump the fence, they're going to be burned, et cetera, et cetera.
02:39:07.780And I think that we should, I think it should be incumbent upon us to seek out and remove.
02:39:16.380And we should have it in the same gusto that the Christians came in and, you know, kind of assaulted on Europe and just systematically with ursery and battles and bribery and weddings, etc.
02:39:32.680Now, I'm not saying we go that far at all. But what I am saying is that we we should be willing to step up and press forward and say, no, in actuality, you're the one that's, you know, you've been taught that anything outside of this tiny little Middle Eastern Semitic bubble is, you know, demons and evil.
02:39:55.800And if you don't kowtow, you're going to get punished.
02:40:01.840And, you know, your soul and the expression of who you are is bent on this kind of proselytization or not, but prostration, this kind of bowing when reality, you know, we are a people of heroes.
02:40:18.380we are a people of glory and we should be pushing for that and not you know chains around our neck
02:40:27.980sorry i soapboxed on that one that's a worthy worthy one to soapbox on uh
02:40:36.060i was listening to one of his conversations with somebody else
02:40:41.340Yeah, I have a tendency to be pretty brutal. And again, it's not just Christianity. I would argue against Islam. Islam wants us to have our heads off.
02:40:56.280I would argue to certain sense of Judaism. I know that some of Judaism is folkish, but there are other points in which, you know, they're reformed and, you know, the kind of encouragement of other religions, the encouragement of Christianity in a way.
02:41:17.120it's uh it's is it has its all of its own problems so i would like to say that for the record because
02:41:25.680i know that a lot of like leftists will pick on christianity um but won't against anything else
02:41:33.440and it's because it's just that falseness they they they're actually anti-white and they view
02:41:39.680christianity as being white and that's why they're attacking that specifically so that's
02:41:45.520what i always say yeah these you know people on twitter or wherever they're like oh my god the
02:41:50.720west is taken over by anti-christian people and no they're just fine with the christians in africa
02:41:56.960or asia or the middle east well the africa native not so much the ones near their holy land but uh
02:42:04.960yeah no they're just anti-white um they're anti-western civilization in the truest sense
02:42:10.160which is white people, culture, white culture. Um, Bobby Milhauser kind of, um, rephrased his
02:42:17.960question and said, how do you deal with your friend or family's, um, rejection of, of you,
02:42:24.100I guess when, when it does get bad, how did you overcome it? That one, uh, and the answer will
02:42:29.880be largely the same, but, uh, for me, and I want to preface this by saying the whole forgiveness,
02:42:38.600turn the other cheek thing is not a moral requirement for us like it is in christianity
02:42:45.280but you do pick your own battles and of course there are going to be you know situations where
02:42:49.700you'll choose to forgive or not forgive someone and it's sometimes it's reasonable sometimes
02:42:54.440unreasonable right um but it is your choice so uh in 2019 when i got doxed for political stuff
02:43:03.280but then people also got mad at me for afa stuff uh i you know i didn't um necessarily cut off any
02:43:12.640of my family but because they're part of that kin fence they are my blood they're my family
02:43:18.580and i told them like hey i'm not going anywhere you are the ones who are choosing to leave me
02:43:24.480behind i'll be here i will not move you know um but i'll be here if you choose to return
02:43:33.060essentially um and i know you know from their point of view is probably the other way around
02:43:37.700but that's how you need to be is strong like an oak stand your ground um i would encourage you
02:43:46.900depending on how they those family or friends acted to be willing to consider forgiving them
02:43:53.140depending on what happened of course and that's up to you but yeah that's how i would
02:43:58.040handle that and how i've overcome it in the past
02:44:01.460um i would think it's also super important for you not you trent but like for the questioner um
02:44:13.100to remember that you are on the correct path i think that a lot of times because of the delusions
02:44:22.060of Abrahamic faiths that they are in mentally that you begin to like, am I, am I crazy? What's
02:44:31.560going on? No. Remember they're on the crazy path. You are on the path of sensibility where your
02:44:40.600blood is, where your people are. And even to the point where, you know, again, all of that stuff
02:44:46.300could not be washed away. So it had to be laminated over. But in Matthew 10, verse 34 to 36,
02:44:59.440there is a point where the rabbi Yeshua says, do not think that I have come to bring peace
02:45:08.240to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. And I know that like
02:45:13.800the the based internet deuce vault christians like to like tout that but they don't talk about
02:45:20.880the other half and i'm bringing it up because it pertains to to your question because it says you
02:45:26.620know i'm not here to bring peace but a sword for i have come to set a man against his father
02:45:32.880and a daughter against her mother and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law and one's
02:45:39.760foes will be members of one's own household so that is stating that their intentions
02:45:52.000are to cause this breakup this destabilization what it really reminds me of is like when um
02:46:01.780when the like left-wing people get all crazy during thanksgiving and they're like i'm gonna
02:46:08.860of preach the word at my Thanksgiving just to, you know, rouse up my, you know, family that isn't
02:46:18.140aware about marginalized people, et cetera. I'm not going to talk about marginalized people in
02:46:26.120other countries, like, you know, in China or in African countries. I'm going to talk about here
02:46:31.600because that's where it only matters um so you see this kind of like call to break apart
02:46:39.460uh to it is it is uh it is a yacht and mindset to dissolve and to soak up the bits and pieces
02:46:49.840so the person that takes it badly is the one at fault you are speaking of your faith right and
02:47:01.140And they, I assume, if they're taking it super badly, then their religious fervor comes from, say, perhaps that they are extremely religious in the belief.
02:47:15.620And they're worried for your soul, and they think you're going to be punished.
02:47:19.800And again, remember, you're dealing with the cult member.
02:47:24.180You're dealing with the one where in the very words of their book, they're saying, take your sword and go and carve up the legion sees that you have in your family.
02:49:11.340A lot of the guys in the military even noticed it, you know, like, yeah, oh, you're still doing all that Viking religion stuff, you know, I've maintained, I have, you know, I have a wonderful house with a wonderful family in it.
02:49:28.460So my house is filled with love and joy. All of these, you know, successful business, all of these things that I think that people that just hate on other religions are like, ah, you know, why isn't, why isn't Yahweh punishing him, et cetera, et cetera.
02:49:47.300And then I've even had somebody say, oh, the reason why you're not being punished is because Satan and his demons are helping you out.
02:49:56.300And I'm like, OK, it's one way or the other.
02:49:59.040But again, you're dealing with lunacy.
02:50:09.380You just need to know that if they decide to cut their ties with you, you should leave that open.
02:50:16.300You should say, hey, I can't make you agree. I can't fix, you know, I think that, you know, if you ever change your mind, you can always come back and we can start again.
02:50:33.040because the oath between you is in blood and again for us oaths are
02:50:39.580they're they're organic sometimes when it comes to the way that we deal with each other i don't
02:50:46.540think that even if they say something terrible i don't think that you should be like you know
02:50:52.240completely cut it off because if you do that you'll never allow people to evolve they could
02:50:56.800have a whole thing where they go to these churches they realize they're not getting anywhere it's
02:51:02.420strange and there's a lot of drama and, and what have you. And then they come back to you and
02:51:09.380they're like, you know what? I, I'm a little interested as to, you know, you've been
02:51:14.800out of truth for so long. What's it about? And the whole thing turns over.
02:51:24.460Yeah. I liked your bit there about, um, you know, we're actually the normal ones and the,
02:51:30.900The Christians don't view it that way, obviously, but we're the normal ones.
02:51:34.840Something to consider, too, and I'll kind of relate this to Gothi stuff, kind of, just so everybody has an idea of the mental picture of it.
02:51:44.580So when Gothi or Githia performs Bloat, the idea of it is we're supposed to be building a bridge, laying the foundation of a bridge to walk and connect with the Iser.
02:51:56.620and through the afa and modern alcatru and its reforging what founder mcnallan and that kind of
02:52:06.300older generation the more recent uh haylingman that have days of remembrance and stuff elsie
02:52:11.220christensen alexander red mills etc what they did was um they laid the bricks of uh the bridge
02:52:20.140for early Alistair true or the reforging of Alistair true and you know these Christians
02:52:26.620may have seen the bricks being laid for a bridge off in the distance and it didn't bother them but
02:52:30.580now they see their own people their own kin walking across it our generation right now we're
02:52:35.520walking on those bricks that were laid by Stephen McNallan or law speaker turnage
02:52:41.240uh etc hopefully he doesn't hear this and get mad that I called him old but
02:52:46.180um that older generation you know they did that for us now that we're walking across it it's being
02:52:52.540noticed and yeah just as Witten Spahn said keep in mind we're the normal ones right you look at
02:53:00.160pictures of our gatherings and stuff it's all normal people we have you know we have
02:53:07.480anywhere from kids to allen aged people we have uh men and women and only men and women no made
02:53:17.480up genders um we have skinny people we have less than skinny people or more than skinny i guess
02:53:24.340um you get the picture uh we're the normal ones it this is our faith it's our birthright
02:53:32.420as Witten Erikson has famously said so yeah it I wish there was some answer to your question that
02:53:41.360was kind of uh you know a cure-all or anything but there's really not you just have to stand
02:53:47.240your ground and remind yourself that you're on the right side of things and um just so you don't
02:53:52.540feel alone I suppose all of us every single one of us has been where you're at to some degree
02:54:00.060Many of us are still there. Many of us have gotten through it. Most of us have gotten through it or are through it or whatever. So, yeah, it's not a situation unique to you. You are not alone. And if this is ever bothering you, feel free to email the Gothar or hell, you can text me. My number is 678-901-2040.
02:54:25.420Uh, I think Antifa already put my phone number on the internet a few years back, so it won't
02:54:33.040Um, but yeah, reach out if you ever need to talk about this stuff one-on-one as well.
02:54:39.000Cause I know it can be, um, it can be heavy.
02:54:43.300So I, I wanted to say too, I've used this a couple of times.
02:54:47.660I just forgot the numbers of the verse, but in Matthew 10, verse 14, because, again, a lot of these megachurch, strip mall churches, they have pushed the proselytization.
02:55:04.480and I've always kind of hit him with Matthew 10 14 which is basically where the rabbi tells
02:55:13.740his disciples as they go into these villages if no one wants to hear your words if no one wants
02:55:20.040to welcome you know the the gospel and it's historically interesting because this is basically
02:55:26.360a a small cult within judaism and these guys believe that you know there's this living
02:55:34.880messiah or messiah and they they're trying to convert other um jews and he says though
02:55:44.080you know if you go in there and they don't take the word that i am spreading then have them dust
02:55:52.580off or dust off the dirt or dust of your of your feet and move on it's it's basically a
02:56:01.940i you know i don't want to hear it you know i know you feel super inclined to preach to me
02:56:12.640but at the end of the day i think it's just best that you wipe the dust off your sandals