Asatru Folk Assembly - 2⧸5⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 135 - Helgakviða Hjörvarðssonar

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00:03:00.000 good evening everybody welcome to another awesome episode of victory never sleeps uh to answer your

00:03:15.660 first question no i am not the altera gothy if he got less swole and slightly more handsome

00:03:21.240 i'm gothy train east i'm gonna be the guest host for tonight while he is dealing with

00:03:25.200 whatever sickness he has managed to catch uh see a few top of the show things the usual stuff

00:03:33.540 we are streaming on youtube odyssey twitch twitter or x whichever you prefer rumble vk

00:03:42.220 uh links are in the description and of course if you're already following us on those things

00:03:46.740 you'll see where we're streaming which you should be following us anyway the audio version will be

00:03:51.920 available on spotify uh friday around noon at the absolute latest possibly tomorrow afternoon

00:03:58.900 uh upcoming events uh the best event of the year of every year is my national event in a couple

00:04:07.360 weeks charming the plow at njordshoff we will gather and honor the icer the vonir and of course

00:04:13.220 uh holy fray that'll be february 21st through 23rd at uh njordshoff white springs florida you

00:04:20.780 can get your tickets at the runestone store uh if you want to attend and have some sort of question

00:04:28.120 about it reach out to myself uh or any of our leadership bolt builder or gothar and we'll get

00:04:34.540 you squared away uh march 21st through 23rd same dates different month so star at thor's hoff uh

00:04:42.960 which would be my personal favorite event if i were not the manager of njord's off uh it's gonna

00:04:49.440 be a great time uh folks from all over are going to be there join us as we honor the goddess of

00:04:54.980 the dawn as she heralds in spring um same stuff with that reach out to uh myself or witness fawn

00:05:04.560 or any of the thorishoff leadership and we'll get you squared away on tickets for that

00:05:08.560 uh last thing as far as top of the show we are making good progress i'm paying off

00:05:16.040 jordshoff thanks to y'all's generosity uh let's see we have 56 277 remaining this was our most

00:05:25.000 expensive hoff by far so that's why it's taken a little longer to pay off than the previous three

00:05:31.320 uh i believe the figure is if we each paid 77 right now it would be paid off something along

00:05:38.920 those lines and uh yeah that's about it exciting stuff we'll have that paid off soon and we can

00:05:48.700 start chasing down phrase off uh tonight witness fawn is going to lead us through the helga could

00:05:57.180 be the your barth sonar there's the link where you can follow us along yeah we'll be doing the

00:06:05.920 bellows translation my favorite usually usually yeah sometimes he's uh thorpe i like in the

00:06:15.280 i've been having my son write down um the halvamal and the thorpe translation ended up being

00:06:23.840 more you know like uh king james bible style written but it was more straightforward there

00:06:31.720 was less for him to try to work around right it kind of retains some of the uh the music of it

00:06:39.180 i guess without getting too in the weeds right right uh i guess before you get started witness

00:06:47.240 fawn um gw farnsworth bought us five coffees that's 25 as he usually does uh thank you so

00:06:54.980 much mr farnsworth your continued generosity is really appreciated and it you know the folksy

00:07:01.700 you uh we see you in the icrcu thank you what uh you want to go ahead and get us started witness

00:07:12.020 fun yeah yeah um well i didn't know too if you wanted to address any there was a question that

00:07:18.500 came in right before we started you know getting into the meat and potatoes of this was about um

00:07:25.140 day of remembrance for um our our hero um ivan kinrifa i don't know if you got that on your end

00:07:35.300 yeah the question okay uh folk builder sarah alt says good evening go the east and witness fawn

00:07:41.860 coming up on february 9th is the remembrance day for ivan kinrifa how will you both be honoring

00:07:46.660 him that day uh go ahead with the spawn uh so i think most everybody in the in the gothar

00:07:55.620 program and or go in in the position of gothar like i'm a i'm a systematic practitioner i do

00:08:03.860 things uh very similarly with only like slight variations um so you know if it's like kind of

00:08:11.860 if you go to one swan bloat you've been to them all um there's there's not a um a great amount

00:08:21.140 of variation and that's because i come from a form of learning in which um tradition is like

00:08:27.460 a drum beat um and every drum beat you know sends a wave out or builds up in power and um that

00:08:35.060 tradition kind of allows us to be on track so that way the little things that you do or really the

00:08:43.300 most important is the spiritual expression that you have um can be released because you're not

00:08:49.140 concerned with steps or you're not concerned with timing or when we're gonna exactly do

00:08:55.620 you you know what have you um so uh you know my general so right now i just recently i have a a

00:09:07.140 mantle but i put up a wall cabinet box uh like a huff or i mean uh um excuse me uh um

00:09:17.140 staller in icelandic or like an altar but it's in a in a cabinet um that's mounted on the wall

00:09:27.800 and um i've been using that a lot because it's just been easier to gain access and um yeah i

00:09:36.880 mean i i usually start all of my honorings by opening the cabinet and ringing the bell

00:09:44.580 and lighting a candle and saying the prayers to, you know, again, about lighting the need fire

00:09:51.440 and calling to Lord Heimdall to ask him to bear witness to our troth and, you know,

00:09:58.980 blowing a horn three times and calling specifically.

00:10:04.820 But when it comes to ancestors and heroes, well, generally with heroes, I call above.

00:10:13.480 I feel like the heroes are with the gods

00:10:17.560 I feel that they have ascended

00:10:21.080 Whether in their life or even after

00:10:24.220 They have been drawn up

00:10:26.800 And they reside with the gods

00:10:30.460 So, you know, I generally call out to them

00:10:33.620 And there's a part in there where I say to the land spirits

00:10:37.460 Like, you know, those

00:10:40.560 do you know that we are going to call the holy heroes of our folk those that wish us woe end

00:10:48.900 your way from here and those that wish us weal are welcome in our halls um and it is kind of

00:10:55.100 really important that we consider where we call out to and i think a lot of folks that come from

00:11:01.940 christianity they have a negative connotation when we think of our ancestors being below um

00:11:08.000 Because they're, you know, conflating, like, the concept of, like, hell and an underworld as being a bad thing.

00:11:17.740 And as opposed to a place that's kind of separated away from the order that the gods, you know, apply.

00:11:29.100 But I call up and, you know, oh, I'm getting some background.

00:11:38.000 But yeah, you know, I call up and fill a horn and lay the horn out into the bowl after I take a sup.

00:11:52.780 And then I take that horn and I, or I take that bowl and I give offering.

00:11:58.680 And then generally too, there's a meal or something of that sort.

00:12:03.300 So I find the best time to do this is right before dinner, and it's just kind of a prelude to eating.

00:12:16.740 But it's so important for our – yeah, somebody's getting background.

00:12:23.880 I don't know if it's Nick or – somebody's not muted.

00:12:30.780 You guys have these in red?

00:12:32.180 I think Nick, you might be getting, you might be picking up some of your stuff.

00:12:38.200 But yeah, I try to generally run my bloats, whether they are small or big, the same.

00:12:50.820 And, you know, adding on a meal or adding on a chance to sit down with the family and talk about Ivan or any of the heroes and their sacrifice, their willingness to be truffle to the gods, despite threat of imminent death.

00:13:13.420 Olaf Tryggverson, the serpent, the traitor, you know, once he had you in his confines, it was always, you know, choose the God of peace and love or die.

00:13:30.480 And these brave men stood up against that, knowing that there was thousands and thousands of years of tradition that they were not willing to just let go, not just to get by or to be released, but so that they would not be witnessed by their ancestors and they would not be witnessed by the gods as turning on them.

00:13:59.860 So, hugely important. I think that, you know, we honor many heroes for different reasons, because everyone has their own kind of specific way that they've been graced by the gods and, you know, bring forth the troth or the Ausatru loyalty to the Aesir.

00:14:27.460 um but it's unique when you like with ivan and with the route the strong and with oliver of

00:14:37.360 eggvir those guys specifically were under the imminent threat of death and knew that the gods

00:14:45.880 and the ancestors were watching them and praying that one day they would be vindicated and we are

00:14:53.500 that vindication. So I think that's, you know, really important. And that's generally the way

00:14:59.500 I do it. I'm going to answer the question, but I also wanted to cover something that came up in

00:15:07.860 the chat that is pretty pressing. For those who don't know, yesterday morning, Mr. Valgaard Murray

00:15:15.120 of the Ausatru Alliance, passed away and rejoined his ancestors.

00:15:21.360 So I did not ever get a chance to meet him, of course.

00:15:25.440 He was more of the old guard, I guess, so to speak.

00:15:28.660 But he was a great friend to many members in the AFA and a good friend of former All-Sagre

00:15:35.480 Goethe McNallens.

00:15:37.200 So hail Val Guard Murray.

00:15:39.280 um now to answer the question uh so february 9th is sunday it's a good day for a day of remembrance

00:15:52.120 um typically what i do is um i just will have a little family dinner and uh you know i'll tell

00:16:00.260 the story to my wife and uh my unborn son because that he's at the point in development where he can

00:16:06.020 hear me through there. So I speak and kind of hope he's sort of taken in the words. And

00:16:12.580 if he's not yet, he has no choice once he's out. So, you know, we'll have that dinner and I'll

00:16:20.620 speak about that. And I'll do similar to what Witten Spahn said. I will, you know,

00:16:27.280 give a small bloat prayer to Ivan Kinrifa. And my bloat setup is very similar, at least with

00:16:35.320 our Halig men because

00:16:37.760 Witten's Fawn was essentially 0.90

00:16:39.900 my unofficial Goethe

00:16:41.640 mentor when I was at Thoroshof so our styles

00:16:43.720 have some similarity to them

00:16:45.680 but yeah

00:16:47.700 mine's

00:16:48.240 my answer isn't as nice

00:16:51.860 as Witten's Fawn's but it's

00:16:53.560 it'll be similar in practice

00:16:55.780 for sure

00:16:56.400 I don't believe we have

00:16:59.860 any more questions yet so

00:17:01.300 I was going to say too for folks

00:17:03.820 that might not know in prayer um prayer is kind of a it's it's hard to pin down um for a lot of

00:17:12.380 new folks and now it's true but um generally one thing is is that i speak to the heroes um

00:17:21.420 as they are there not speaking um i don't like hold the horn and say well you know i've told

00:17:30.900 my family members about you kind of like almost like a wrestling interview you know or something

00:17:37.220 like that like i told my my friends about you and they think you're all no i i try to talk directly

00:17:44.260 um to ivan or to whoever i'm trying to reach out to and um and i speak about the emotional feelings

00:17:54.340 that i get from their deeds is a big one the way that we feel about things i think is important

00:18:03.460 that we uh speak about them so you know i i often say i am in awe of what you did and how you knew

00:18:14.180 that by making this choice you were doomed um and i pray that the gods have witnessed you i

00:18:25.220 prayed that your ancestors have witnessed you and by the very nature of us telling your story um

00:18:33.220 it had an impact and so i tried to almost have a out loud verbal conversation directly towards

00:18:43.620 ivan i think it's really important that one of the key perhaps maybe unspoken um elements of

00:18:51.620 ousatru is that we speak our prayers we bring them out into the open and we lay them out into

00:19:00.180 the the web of uh orlaw and um that i mean certainly you could be silent and think these

00:19:11.860 things but there is more of a cultural practice i think that we we speak them out loud and we speak

00:19:18.420 directly to them um we have that tendency i i think when we do bloats that people will

00:19:27.620 speak about the gods or they'll speak about these heroes and but they're they're talking only to

00:19:33.140 their gathered folk which is okay again um giving praise and worship to others is you know again

00:19:43.860 the highest form of praise um but at the same time i do believe that once the the mead is placed

00:19:52.100 into the bowl there is a direct um you know uh transmissible um

00:20:04.900 mode in which we can speak to them and that they hear us so just wanted to say that as a side note

00:20:14.580 yeah that is a cool point to bring up and it's something when uh i first got into the gothar

00:20:22.780 program and i was wanting to learn how to do bloat that i haven't thought of is that idea of speaking

00:20:27.100 to the gods rather than about the gods because you know you'll see well not in the afa you won't but

00:20:32.680 back in the day i guess you know 10 years ago you might if you were to see a bloat done by one of

00:20:37.200 these random you know non-affiliated kindreds or whatever the bloat to the all-father would be

00:20:43.380 odin is cool odin is great we like odin hail odin and that's it there weren't necessarily

00:20:50.200 and all those things are true the all fathers the all father of course but there weren't

00:20:56.480 gifts given to the icer and that's if you're not completing the gifting cycle it's not a bloat

00:21:02.480 um so yeah just bloat at home you speak to the uh the alice or alcenia that you're

00:21:11.660 giving blow to you speak to the uh hailing mother that you're honoring you speak to your ancestors

00:21:18.140 when you you know pray with them pray to them so yeah and it really helps because people's mental

00:21:25.180 state might be confuddled but the moment that they speak out it clarifies a lot kind of gets you

00:21:36.220 into realizing perhaps what you were thinking was a little you know uh maybe it was mixed up just

00:21:42.540 you were kind of uh you know in a in our uh like an unbuilt bridge it hasn't quite fully connected

00:21:50.460 to the other side and when you speak those those uh things out and you reach out then suddenly you

00:21:57.740 know you like you realize oh wow you know maybe what i'm asking is um you know the way to attain

00:22:05.980 it to take those steps forward to fixing my problems the way to give you know the blessings

00:22:11.820 of uh me i don't know enough about this person's history so i'm just simply saying hail ivan and

00:22:20.540 that might you know dig at you enough to really go and look and research a little bit you know

00:22:26.780 that that verbal sense is the the threshold between uh comfort and and actually doing

00:22:40.780 sorry i i have i have soapbox enough well we're in for a long night i'm sure either way um

00:22:49.740 Um, uh, but yeah, if you want to go ahead and start leading us through the, uh,

00:22:57.220 Helga Vida, that would be awesome.

00:22:59.360 Okay.

00:22:59.960 So one of the things that everyone here, if they're not familiar with, um, the, the,

00:23:05.540 the, the consecutive stories of Helgi, um, one of the interesting things about it is

00:23:13.500 that helgi is a hero that has multiple stories those stories are actually connected to sigurd

00:23:24.620 the dragon slayer um mainly because there's like light references in the poem like one or two lines

00:23:33.580 that makes connection between Helgi and Sigmund, who is Sigurd's father.

00:23:43.260 Sigmund is the one that pulls the sword out of the wood in the center of the hall that Lord Othyn buries in.

00:23:52.840 and again this is um clearly an arian um myth cycle the the removal of the of the weapon or

00:24:03.960 the sword um buried in the stone or the tree um and you know we find those that's where the

00:24:12.200 tripartite that i keep talking about comes from that's where um the loss of the arm

00:24:20.760 or the loss of the hand whether we're talking about king nuata of the irish or or lord tear

00:24:27.240 and um we see these arian like hallmarks of stories throughout all of our people um and

00:24:39.080 you know i think a lot of people fail to just simply observe um these notes and um another

00:24:47.960 thing is is at the time snorri stutlerson was really trying to make sure that the poems of his

00:25:01.200 people of the icelanders and ultimately all of the the nordic folk uh of pre-christianity um

00:25:09.840 he wanted the poems to be perceived as in equivalency with classical literature

00:25:18.000 um at that time greek um poems stories roman versions um were absolutely the pinnacle of

00:25:32.120 of education and societal view and so he wanted to show that uh even though it was different

00:25:43.960 they it was on par um and didn't want to be to have his people just simply perceived as

00:25:50.520 you know shoulder pelts and and black face paint um and i i mean i think he succeeded but i i do

00:25:58.920 believe that there was some padding on his part to make sure that things flowed together but again

00:26:08.120 this is a unique one because it's also held in um saxo grammaticus's um uh guest of the norm the the

00:26:20.280 tales of the of the starting and the kings of denmark so we have these separate stories loosely

00:26:29.240 connected to um sigmund and sigurd the dragon slayer and stories in even in the classical

00:26:39.560 literature um there's multiple versions of the herculean story um depending on where you were

00:26:48.120 and and how you know it came about different emphasis of you know who uh his mother was or

00:26:55.000 how she treated him and uh or or even his death um so we find the same thing going on here with

00:27:02.840 with helgi um perhaps too we could you know say that it's the same with sigurd with um if you're

00:27:09.880 from the on the nordic side you would know it simply as the volsunga saga but um if you're

00:27:17.720 going from the german side it's you know the ring der nibelum um i think i got that right um

00:27:25.480 so these stories brought into high legend and mythos are incorporated with history and the magic

00:27:38.360 and um elements it becomes like a braided rope it's not simply just one thing and um we see that

00:27:48.040 because there's mention of uh oddly and it is a pretty good guess that oddly is attila the uh the

00:28:00.280 invasion of the huns into the eastern germanic people was greatly uh affected them but in

00:28:10.920 particular that there were eastern germanics that were around when the huns um invaded

00:28:20.280 and then they eventually moved southward and were in around the aegean sea and uh even the black sea

00:28:29.720 with the in ukraine and in rome and then there was a breaking point in rome and then a large

00:28:37.720 amount of these gothic eastern tribes started to move back northward they settled in germany

00:28:46.760 they settled in england they settled in denmark and a great amount of them crossed over the baltic

00:28:52.680 and settled in sweden and norway and what they brought with them were these stories but by the

00:29:00.200 time they're you know spoken in iceland recorded down um they're compounded into um far less

00:29:12.280 historical far more uh spiritual and mythological so you know bearing that in mind we're going to

00:29:20.120 be covering now these these different stories of helgi tonight we're just recovering one um but the

00:29:27.640 the future um series will be going over these and so helgi is a kind of hero warrior um

00:29:39.400 uh repeat or he has a series if you will and a lot of people think that he was um introduced

00:29:52.720 after the migration of these eastern tribes that came back to their their land of ultima thule

00:29:59.620 and um mainly focusing around denmark because the fact that saxo um

00:30:09.400 made, you know, such a, the fact that he was in there as well, kind of lends towards that, that he was perhaps after migration period, and the Danes kind of spoke of these stories about Helgi, and then the bards or poets and scalds spread that throughout the rest of the Nordic lands, thus making him, like solidifying him in.

00:30:37.940 So you can see that the poetry about him is choppy. A lot of the poets were only expected to perhaps recite a couple of verses from a poem. It wasn't that they were going to do an all-nighter and go through the entirety of the thing.

00:30:55.500 So Snorri and Saimondr compiled these down and in. But the fact that what we have now went over to Iceland, I always wonder, you know, if there were stories, poems that didn't make the transfer over.

00:31:15.720 because the stories were present um you know they were people telling the stories but the moment

00:31:23.500 they got placed into poetic verse is when they kind of entered the time capsule um a lot of

00:31:30.940 information was lost in that process but the actual poems were completely saved because of

00:31:38.060 that process so these are where i think there's three of them that we'll be covering and we're

00:31:44.540 covering the first one um and this is um helgi hyurvatherson um and we'll start with verse one

00:32:00.940 um of hyurvath and sigirlin

00:32:05.340 And Chorvath was the name of a king who had four wives.

00:32:14.140 One was Alfhild, and their son's name was Haven.

00:32:21.300 The second was called Sairith, and their son was Humlung.

00:32:28.000 The third was Sineryoth, and their son was Hinling.

00:32:37.540 King Hyorvath had a great vow to have as wife whosoever woman he knew was the fairest.

00:32:49.020 So right out the gate, let's address the multitudes of wives.

00:32:58.000 um again our uh the the royalty often did this with um you know first wife and then every wife

00:33:10.540 thereafter could be kind of a of either um a sense of treaty um where they had to make peace

00:33:19.660 war offerings um in which you know someone was conquered and then they would offer up

00:33:25.600 to make and end um the war um and i think that a lot of folks get caught up in that because they

00:33:34.400 they have presentism um when they when they push this um i see that a lot of uh new age

00:33:43.040 kind of the the fuzzy bunnies if you will um the crystal um crews they um you know they twist and

00:33:54.900 bend around this because they don't like it when their ancestors you know don't follow their like

00:34:04.980 ultra modern marxist ideologies um but in reality that that was seen as a common thing it was not

00:34:15.780 common amongst the the warrior middle class because of numerous reasons one descendancy

00:34:23.460 issues who got the land who got the money um so it i think too that the the show of it being that

00:34:34.500 there's multiple wives is also kind of a this person has enough money to take care of all of

00:34:43.300 these children uh this person has enough money to um ensure that his wives are all taken care of

00:34:51.700 um so it really does bring into question about um the social morals or mores of um

00:35:05.300 weddings and there's a really interesting um book called women of the viking age that kind

00:35:12.100 of it's it's a little bit of a dry book but it does kind of go into reasoning and rationale

00:35:19.300 as to why um and and what function marriage had um in relation to the different classes

00:35:28.180 um very very interesting read um also i i just looking at the names here i find it

00:35:36.020 really interesting the the women's names elf hild or elf of battle um anybody that sees

00:35:44.180 the word alf in a name should know or just keep it in keep it in your mind um is uh a being that

00:35:55.460 synthesized with you know that uh that particular subject so gandalf is an elf that's completely

00:36:05.220 synthesized with a wand or magic um and again it could be poetic it doesn't have to mean literally

00:36:12.580 um but take that with the case with like swan hills i mean anybody who's ever poked a swan

00:36:19.760 knows they do choose violence but um you know at the same time there's also sigh

00:36:28.600 which means ocean rider or like a sailor or somebody who rides on the waves um i find that 0.97

00:36:39.200 really interesting the these the naming um of these women um you know and that could simply

00:36:48.400 just as be too that her um her father or her mother took very well to traveling and you know

00:36:58.500 going across the water and it's more or less kind of a feeling of of traversing so um

00:37:07.700 Um, so in this case here, it says King Hjordav had made a great vow to have as wife, whosoever woman he knew was the fairest.

00:37:22.440 So the fairest woman of the, of, of the land and Hjordav is, you know, coming for hand in marriage.

00:37:30.200 but we do see in most of the sagas a lot of these cases the man goes forth and the father

00:37:42.940 will generally say you know it is up to my daughter but I see it as a good match or I

00:37:51.780 do not see this as a good match so um you know i think there's a lot to be said but again if a king

00:38:01.300 comes uh a calling i think there's a lot more um play and power in there um

00:38:10.400 And at the same time, this could be all references to characters of Eastern Germania during the migration period, during the time of Rome, or some of these characters at least.

00:38:31.160 and um they could be pulled in and needed for certain things so the the poets of the time would

00:38:40.920 construct uh like reasonings why they were there um marriage and so forth sometimes they would also

00:38:49.000 make people brothers and sisters or you know fathers and son and mothers and son just to

00:38:56.040 patchwork everything um

00:39:00.920 so he learned of he learned that king svafnir had a daughter fairer than all the others

00:39:09.400 whose name was sigirlin ifmund was the name of one of his jarls he had a son called atli

00:39:20.280 possibly Attila

00:39:24.600 who went to woo Sigurlin on behalf of the king we see this again a lot of people with

00:39:34.300 presentism don't like to hear this but the idea was that you sent a representative to

00:39:42.260 um you know your prospective wife um asking and negotiating and speaking and it was seen as

00:39:52.880 illegal to kill him um if he made offense by asking so sometimes you know you go to ask and

00:40:03.080 they take offense because you're of some blood feud of the past and they kill you

00:40:09.180 um it was less so if you had a third party there yeah this is uh that scene in the lore as well

00:40:17.960 of course when uh holy fray sends his hero skirnir to go woo uh gareth for him in case anybody was

00:40:25.620 wondering if that's found in the lore right yeah and it um we see a lot of these cultural nuances

00:40:33.240 with um that perhaps modern audiences might not understand in this case you know oh why is he not

00:40:41.380 you know hitting her up on the cell phone um but that's kind of what presentism is it's like

00:40:50.640 kind of the the equivalency is uh you know why why is he you know not in her dms

00:40:58.640 um and it sounds absurd but it kind of is we a lot of folks don't understand the way that

00:41:06.260 things are structured another great point is um the specific focus on um mimir in relation to

00:41:19.120 lord odin uh being his uncle because uncles had a structural um point when the father dies the

00:41:30.200 uncle steps in from the mother's side to kind of be the father figure um so you know when bor

00:41:38.340 um you know like lifts the gods up uh from the deluge of um emir he passes and so mimir then

00:41:50.980 becomes the the the masculine figure in his life and if we don't know those things some people do

00:41:57.820 some people don't it it becomes odd why specifically his uncle or you know um why is he

00:42:05.900 sending a representative so gotta bear that in mind um so uh he had a son called atli who went

00:42:16.740 to woo sig sigirlin on behalf of the king uh he dwelt the winter long with king svafnir so this

00:42:25.640 means he goes forth and he asks to be hosted for the winter which was you know a huge thing

00:42:33.400 in the summertime not so much but to be housed over for the winter and to be kept safe

00:42:40.040 um there was a yarl called franmar sigirlin's foster father

00:42:49.720 his daughter was named aloth the yarl told him that the maiden's hand was denied

00:42:57.640 And then Atli went home. Atli, the Jarl's son, stood one day in a certain wood forest. A bird

00:43:07.900 sat in the branches over him, and it had heard that his men called Hjørvath's wives the fairest

00:43:15.720 woman. The bird twittered, and Atli hearkened to what it spoke. And it said, a couple things just

00:43:24.820 about that this is again one of those um aryan uh kind of call signs uh something that you will see

00:43:36.900 in multiple branches whether it's gaulish uh you know uh central germanic slavic and uh hellenic

00:43:47.220 um the stories of of the of the talking birds and even further if you go east with the um 0.54

00:43:53.780 with the uh um i just right out of my brain the louisans the louisans and the hittites

00:44:03.940 um the the persians or pre-persians and all the way to to um india um and the unique thing about

00:44:13.860 this with sigurd the dragon slayer is that the one way that he learns how to hear the voices of birds

00:44:22.820 is that he's drenched in dragon's blood and he or and he eats the heart of a dragon

00:44:29.700 um but in this case it doesn't seem to be implied um but is a you know in one story it's

00:44:40.420 through great a great event and in this case it's not and we find this in folk stories when

00:44:50.340 like the young maiden goes out into the woods and she speaks to um a raven or what have you like in

00:44:57.700 many german folklore stories um so when you see something like that that's like a call sign that

00:45:04.820 shows um it is probably heavily influenced by um like western aryan traditions um

00:45:15.940 Um, so the bird says, sawest thou Sigurlin, Svafnir's daughter, the fairest maid in her home and land found, though Hjørvath's wives by men are held, goodly to see in glasir's wood.

00:45:37.460 and Atli spoke in return

00:45:41.300 now with Atli, Ithman's son

00:45:46.180 wilt thou say more

00:45:48.740 thou bird so wise

00:45:50.880 the bird spoke

00:45:54.720 I may if the prince

00:45:57.580 an offering make

00:46:00.020 now the gift cycle

00:46:02.100 and I have what I will

00:46:05.280 from the house of the king

00:46:07.360 at least spoke choose not your vath nor sons of his nor the wives so fair of the famous chief

00:46:19.540 ask not the brides that the princes are fair let us deal in friendly wise so let's not

00:46:28.560 let's not talk about all of these you know machinations going on let's just

00:46:34.960 speak about other things let's speak as friends um i was looking i wanted to see um

00:46:47.240 in which the king that he's that he's he mentions um the or the and the famous chief

00:46:54.040 But I assume he's talking about Hjorvath. But one thing, too, is Glossier. Glossier is spoken of by Snorri, and it is mentioned as being like a heavenly forest, which I thought was pretty interesting.

00:47:16.800 Down in the bottom here, Snorri in the Skald Skarpermal quotes that Glacier stands with golden leaves before Odin's Hall in heaven.

00:47:31.680 So again, but I, you know, here it's not seen as that.

00:47:38.420 This is seen as in the middle world.

00:47:40.260 And I think that that causes a lot of confusion when we start talking about the geography of the cosmos and why some people have interpreted things to be drastically, you know, wrong and perhaps even think simply that like Ausgard is by itself in the upper realm.

00:47:59.140 But this certainly doesn't help.

00:48:02.620 Um, the bird spoke. A fain will I ask and alters many gold horned cattle. The prince shall give me if Sigurlin yet shall sleep in his arms or free of will. The hero shall follow. 0.99

00:48:24.800 this was before atlee went on his journey but when he came home the king asked of his tidings

00:48:34.260 so that's kind of an insert added in to kind for context is that speaking to the bird happened

00:48:42.940 before he went to go and speak to sigurlin and uh

00:48:48.440 You know, he's asking for a gift cycle, he's asking for an altar, he's asking for cattle to be, you know, driven there, maybe grown there, or slaughtered there for him.

00:49:09.560 When he returns, the king asks and at least says, trouble we had, but tidings none.

00:49:18.440 Our horses failed in the mountains high.

00:49:21.480 The waters of Saimor, we need, we needs must wade.

00:49:28.040 Svafnir's daughter with rings bedecked, she whom we sought was still denied us.

00:49:38.520 So it took so long because the weather was bad and we got stuck in the mountains.

00:49:44.080 And even after this long and arduous journey, we were denied her.

00:49:52.540 Um, and again, the gold bedecked, the rings bedecked, uh, rings upon our fingers or rings

00:50:02.560 upon our neck, um, certainly to, you know, our ancestors held a great sense of, of, um,

00:50:10.360 the value in presenting, um, with their, with their riches.

00:50:16.960 I think it's funny. I wonder how much like Protestantism and the bare boneness that our folk have kind of absorbed has turned back on the way our ancestors are perceived because our ancestors wore bright clothing and, you know, painted things brightly and wore, you know, their jewelry, their arm rings, their rings on their fingers and around their necks.

00:50:46.020 And, you know, again, it was seen as a very positive thing. And I think that a lot of like that, the Protestantism of like bare boneness or you can't show off wealth and you can't have things that are gold and shiny and just, you know, draw forth a lot of that awe.

00:51:09.700 Um, and just, again, wealth shows vitality and, um, you know, you clearly see here as

00:51:19.140 this is one of those, um, I don't know, like, uh, it's a mark of beauty.

00:51:27.400 We hear that about the white arm, um, or the white hands.

00:51:32.840 And we, we hear it about the fair hair and also being bedecked in gold.

00:51:39.700 So, um, and I know I'm, I'm kind of hitting these stanzas like one after one after another,

00:51:52.720 but if you see anything that question wise that sticks out in the chat, please let me

00:51:59.080 know.

00:51:59.280 Cause I can't see the chat.

00:52:01.540 Um, so feel free to, um, you know, flag on the play.

00:52:09.700 all right will do um so the king bade that they should go another time and he went with them

00:52:21.080 himself this time but when they came up on the mountains they saw svalvaland burning and mighty

00:52:29.040 dust clouds for many steeds the king rode from the mountains forward into the land and made a

00:52:36.760 night stay hard by a stream, so he sets camp. Atli kept watch and went over the stream. He found

00:52:46.340 there a house. So now we're starting to get back into the mythos of things. And remember, too,

00:52:53.700 that this might be certainly that the name Atli has connections to Attila. But one thought that

00:53:03.260 had was is that um the nordic folk would oftentimes pull names from uh incidences or stories um people

00:53:15.420 would hear the stories and oh i love that name i'm gonna name my kid atli um or finn or kiartan

00:53:23.100 and these are not nordic names so i didn't want to i don't want to be confused with saying that

00:53:29.020 this is atli but again we're seeing here an invasion um the burning of of the land somebody's 0.96

00:53:37.260 come in and and really mucked things up so you know again very reminiscent of the huns um

00:53:48.460 okay so they uh they set up camp by a stream atli kept watch and went over the stream

00:53:57.100 he found there a house a great bird sat on the housetop to guard it but he was asleep

00:54:05.500 atli hurled his spear at the bird and slew it and in the house he found sigirlin the king's daughter

00:54:14.140 and elof the jarl's daughter and he brought them thence with him jarl franmir had changed himself

00:54:24.540 into the likeness of an eagle and guarded them from enemy and host by magic not very well though um

00:54:35.020 uh hrothmar was the name of a king a wooer of sigirlin he slew the king in svava land

00:54:43.580 and had plundered and burned the land so um franmar comes in to svava land and starts 0.94

00:54:53.740 burning and pillaging and um aloft takes the daughter of the king and the daughter of one 0.85

00:55:03.420 of the jarls and runs to the borderlands and is hiding in a house and then he magically changes

00:55:10.860 his shape to the form of an eagle and sits on top of the house but atli um seeing the purpose of this

00:55:19.740 great eagle um slew it and most likely especially through our ancestors eyes i believe that they

00:55:31.420 did not see this as simply a like a a little eagle but like a great

00:55:38.460 eagle um clearly outside of of the realm of of normality

00:55:44.220 um so jarl franmar had uh changed himself into the likeness of an eagle and guarded them

00:55:56.260 from the enemy from a host by uh enemy host by magic hrothmar was the name oh excuse me uh

00:56:03.100 hrothmar was the one that has um come in and started burning everything um he tried to woo

00:56:10.700 Sigirlind, and most likely was denied. And then he was just like, well, then I'm going to 0.96

00:56:17.760 raise your kingdom. He slew the king of Svalvaland and had plundered and burned the land.

00:56:24.840 King Hjordvath took Sigirlind and Atli took Alof, or Alof.

00:56:31.240 So Hjordvath was trying to take Sigurlin as his wife, and Atli takes the Jarl's daughter from this place, and they leave.

00:56:50.200 Um, Hjordvath and Sigurlin had a son, mighty and noble in stature. He was a silent man, and no name stuck fast to him. He sat on a hill and saw nine Valkyries riding. One of them was the fairest of them all, and she spoke.

00:57:12.780 A couple of things about that is the idea of like a name attachment, you know, the reason why like Ragnar had leather britches as his last name or blue tooth or split beard, these name attachments.

00:57:33.080 But, you know, here they're kind of correlating his silence as kind of also his overall demeanor is that he is not a man who goes out, does, you know, crazy things kind of in the background.

00:57:52.660 um so no name stuck to him and the other thing that's worth noting here too is now in this story

00:58:01.380 we are starting to see how valkyrie and dc start to blur um in myal saga very similar he is sitting

00:58:14.420 out on the water and he sees his dsir show up um and there are there are the ones dressed in white

00:58:22.660 and the ones dressed in black so the usage of dsir and valkyrie um is oftentimes interchangeable

00:58:33.780 which causes you know a ton um of different things and then again they are seen as

00:58:40.900 as uh separate magical beings not always you know of the line so or the of the bloodline so um

00:58:52.660 the valkyria she speaks and she says uh late wilt thou helgi have hordes of rings

00:59:02.260 thou battle tree fierce though battle tree fierce or of shining fields the eagle screams soon

00:59:10.420 if never thou speakest thou hero hard thy heart may cry so you know she tells him that he will

00:59:20.500 never gain renowned he will never great gain bright deeds he will never establish himself

00:59:27.180 You know, even though he's a strong and stalwart warrior, he will not be remembered or known just no matter how great his heart cries out.

00:59:41.820 And Helgi speaks.

00:59:44.320 What gift shall I have with Helgi's name?

00:59:49.900 Glorious made for the giving is thine.

00:59:53.360 all thy words shall i think on well but i want them not if i win not thee

01:00:01.960 so now he's saying you know he wants he wants her um and the valkyrie speaks swords i know lying

01:00:14.640 In Sigar's home

01:00:16.280 Fifty there are

01:00:18.680 Save only four

01:00:20.220 One there is

01:00:21.960 That is best of all

01:00:23.640 The shield destroyer

01:00:26.340 With gold it shines

01:00:29.100 In the hilt

01:00:32.580 Is fame

01:00:33.900 In the haft

01:00:35.400 Is courage

01:00:36.780 In the point

01:00:38.420 Is fear

01:00:39.560 For its owner's foes

01:00:41.720 On the blade

01:00:43.580 there lies a blood-flecked snake and a serpent's tail round the flat is twisted

01:00:55.580 a limi was the name of a king whose daughter was svalva she was a valkyrie and rode air and sea

01:01:05.820 she gave helgi then this name and shielded him off thereafter in battle so now we kind of get the name

01:01:18.620 of um the valkyrie and there's some interesting points of this one i think that the general way

01:01:31.280 we spiritually see the valkyries as perhaps you know extensions of the will of lord ovin

01:01:36.320 um in this case you know she doesn't fit in the list of um mentioned valkyrie um so

01:01:48.880 you know whether she's a mystical being a spiritual being a dc or or that

01:01:55.600 the possibility of the souls of mortals to be raised and brought in um is you know it's

01:02:04.000 referenced elsewhere too that uh you know in order to become a valkyria you you have to be

01:02:10.560 uh you know a virgin um i can't remember exactly where that's mentioned but here we see

01:02:19.040 the title of valkyrie and that she could ride on the land and are in the air and in the sea

01:02:26.800 clearly denotes her as a spiritual being but um was she raised up um or is this again the usage

01:02:38.960 of the title valkyrie is kind of just being placed in like it would be placed in with

01:02:43.440 you know, with Disir or Anornir of the kind of like lowercase sense.

01:02:54.960 But Ailemi is also mentioned in the saga of the Volsungs.

01:03:01.580 So there's just these little ties to that story that show that these kind of stories were crossed over and tailored to connect with each other.

01:03:13.760 And Helgi speaks in 10

01:03:20.280 Hjorvath, king, unwholesome thy counsels

01:03:24.280 Though famed thou art in leading the folk 1.00

01:03:27.940 Letting fire the homes of heroes eat 0.99

01:03:32.820 Homes of heroes eat

01:03:36.220 Who evil deed had never done thee?

01:03:40.080 So at this point, Helgi is, you know, speaking out against King Hjormath, saying that, you know, he has failed in his duty, letting fire take the homes of his people. 0.92

01:04:00.820 So, um, yet Hrothmar, still the whore doth hold the wealth that once our kinsmen wielded, full seldom care the king disturbs, heir to dead men he deems himself. 0.89

01:04:23.800 That's pretty savage. 0.99

01:04:25.600 so you know it's uh you know hrothmar holds the wealth now and the wealth that your your people

01:04:34.640 had and you know but the king he doesn't care he has you know resided himself to uh uh be the heir

01:04:46.960 of dead you know inert ancestors and in turn also pass on his land to no one um curva answered that

01:04:59.920 he would give helgi a following if he feign would avenge his mother's father then helgi got the sword

01:05:10.000 that svalva spoke of so he went and atli with him and they slew hrothmar and they did many

01:05:19.520 great deeds so this is kind of like a compact speed up point um they they establish um

01:05:28.880 Hjordvath and Atli and then they establish Helgi and his meeting with Valkyrie about

01:05:41.160 the great sword and then they come together and the king tells him like no can you you know avenge

01:05:52.320 the people of Svalvaland and take Atli with you and then they go out and

01:05:58.240 kind of it's like the perfect spot for a montage at that point and lots of lots of blood lots of

01:06:07.280 fighting and lots of cool stuff and then it just kind of jumps forward and then it you know it goes

01:06:14.000 into certain deeds that are almost reminiscent of like hercules's deeds or maybe not so grand but

01:06:23.060 certainly amongst our ancestors they would have seen helgi is now he has this sword um from a

01:06:31.940 valkyrie and he's you know fighting armies he's fighting giants and all kinds of things um

01:06:41.940 so he also slew the giant hathi uh hatred um whom he found sitting on a certain mountain

01:06:53.060 Helgi and Atli lay with their ships at Hattafjord.

01:06:58.660 Atli kept watch during the first part of the night,

01:07:01.940 and Hrimgirth, Hati's daughter, spoke.

01:07:07.900 So now this is the daughter of the giant.

01:07:18.520 Who are the heroes in Hattafjord?

01:07:23.060 the ships are covered with shields bravely ye look and little ye fear the name the king i would know

01:07:34.820 otley speaks now here's another thing that you'll see in stories there will be this kind of

01:07:41.860 um tricking they will you'll have like your right hand man your thing your um you know man at arms

01:07:50.420 and he would step up and kind of pretend to be you know the the leader it's it's very much the

01:07:58.100 same as in sigurd's story um where sigurd stands in and then completes the tests and gains access

01:08:06.580 to the valkyrie so we see um all of these kind of common points um real quick i would be remiss

01:08:19.380 if i did not point out that uh the ulterior gothi would uh say that it says spake rather than spoke

01:08:27.860 or speaks i know he loves his uh ale spake a verse so right i know i'm i have a tendency my brain

01:08:36.660 will just switch it to um or kind of you know i know but i need to i need to maintain the integrity

01:08:46.100 of the writing and the translation um i just have a bad habit of kind of doing that anybody that has

01:08:54.500 kids uh that reads stories you have sometimes you have to do that in certain stories kind of tweak

01:09:02.900 them a little bit um especially when the you know there's older words that that and i'm not saying

01:09:08.740 that the audience is kids but i what i'm saying is the habit starts to build up and then i start

01:09:15.460 applying it to everything not good so yeah i will i will correct um let me see here um

01:09:26.900 so otley steps up and he says to the daughter of the giant he he's at least spake helgi

01:09:36.100 his name and never thou mayest harm to the hero bring with iron is fitted the prince's fleet

01:09:43.540 nor can witches work is work us ill so sorry one he's standing up and simply states helgi is the

01:09:52.260 king but you know that he's talking to a supernatural being because he says that our

01:10:01.140 ships are fitted with iron and witches troll which jotin you know which um the ill working

01:10:12.340 kind of dark and shadowed brood that descends from emir that you know wishes great harm upon 0.93

01:10:21.940 gods and men he says that iron is here and that you cannot fix your witchcraft against us

01:10:32.500 um and that doesn't i mean it's kind of going without saying with swords and

01:10:36.980 shields and what have you that iron axes you know but um you know the the idea that because the word

01:10:46.420 that's used is is yarn barki um and i've wondered if like that means in relation like specific iron

01:10:57.860 or iron shaped in a specific way i know that a lot of people talk about the modern day like the uh i

01:11:05.940 think it's called a troll cross um that looks very similar to like uh the odol or othal room and um

01:11:15.140 you know i wonder if our ancestors knew the specific um shape but you know the note that's

01:11:23.380 here is that the ships were fitted with iron shoes at the bow and the stern um but this is

01:11:30.180 not certain of the practice um if not you know that uh the idea again that the heads of the ships

01:11:40.340 would uh shake or scare land spirits and that iron being fitted to the front and the back would

01:11:47.860 certainly kind of emphasize the disruption of the land spirits that that our ancestors saw

01:11:56.580 that the land spirits weren't always just great and good and also you didn't always treat them

01:12:04.500 with deference you you treat you treated the land spirits of your place with deference but when you

01:12:11.140 went into a place of your enemy disrupting them scaring them or what have you was absolutely a

01:12:19.300 tactic those that wish us woe wind your way from here right right and it and i mean in a way um

01:12:30.180 it's like it's kind of like you don't want the land spirits to warn

01:12:36.260 the the folk that you're coming to fight or aid them in any way so you have to scare them away

01:12:42.260 and i you know al sarah really spoke or he speaks about that when he says too that a lot of times

01:12:48.100 our folk get caught up in the idea that uh they're gonna be you know cursed or elf shot um

01:12:56.340 because you know the the the scary stuff the ooga booga stuff but um our faith our will

01:13:05.700 and our drive does have effect is it good to disrespect land spirits for no reason i would

01:13:12.900 say no but the idea again is that you we have an effect on them just as much even though they're

01:13:20.500 you know they're working in the realm of the unseen so um

01:13:28.980 uh then then hrimger spake and hrimger means um ice or snow or kind of the built up

01:13:42.900 combination of the two, and gader is a wall, a fence, an enclosed place. Very, very fitting name.

01:13:55.760 She says, who now, thou mighty man, art thou? By what name art thou known to men?

01:14:05.340 He trusts thee well, the prince who wills, that thou stand at the stern of his ship.

01:14:12.900 at least spake and 15 atli am i and ill shalt thou find me great hate for witches i have

01:14:24.720 oft have i been in the dripping boughs and to dusk riders death have brought so

01:14:35.160 here you know that makes me think of the meme where we see like the our ancestors and their

01:14:44.320 nice clothing and their trimmed beard and nice hair and then they see like someone dressed like

01:14:50.220 a member of the band helium and they're like ah troll witch you know like ah um 0.61

01:14:56.720 you know he's clearly standing up to to this um creature and she's already trying to work her 0.96

01:15:08.440 perhaps discord sewing discord and um he says uh and ill shalt thou find me and remember too

01:15:17.500 the usage of the word ill and the way that it's kind of emphasized as being um you know you will

01:15:25.320 find nothing but aggression from me you'll find nothing but uh the return of malice and he says

01:15:31.960 um and often have i stood at the front of his ship um and to many dusk riders that's um

01:15:46.440 uh the usage of that being either perhaps doomed men men who are about to walk into the night

01:15:53.960 i.e death or that the raiding tactics of the you know the norseman at the time was um built around

01:16:05.080 you know kind of raiding at night um but i always found that kind of um a really cool name uh

01:16:15.720 poetically for um raiders and warriors but fell the reader um the dusk riders but he

01:16:24.520 you know fought them and and took them out as well um

01:16:33.480 so again and just to remind everyone you know the beginning is setting up about

01:16:38.280 your father and his wives and him trying to go and get another wife and then there's this

01:16:44.760 you know great war and at the same time helgi separate place is bestowed the location of a

01:16:54.680 great sword from a valkyrie and then he um goes to your vast kingdom and your vast says you know you

01:17:03.960 need to avenge me go out there and kind of be and be a an adjudicator of my will um out in the world

01:17:12.040 and here take my right hand man my man at arms atli who's been with me through all of this

01:17:17.000 and then helgi's like gotcha i'm gonna go get this sword and then we're gonna go and do this

01:17:25.560 and now they're you know fighting giants and and uh many many things and speaking to giant or uh

01:17:34.520 troll uh witches and again that's another thing i wanted to talk about is the giants

01:17:40.280 it's that misnomer obviously when we speak of yotans we speak that the word should be looked 0.77

01:17:46.760 at as more of ancient beings and the switching from yotan to troll um a lot of folks get

01:17:58.760 mixed up in their head but i think that one of the clearest ways to look at that is the intention

01:18:03.640 A troll is a Jotun, which is an ancient being, but a troll is bent towards destruction, towards destroying man or destroying the gods.

01:18:21.500 um they are a particularly nasty kind of breed but they change not based off of some sort of like 0.84

01:18:30.100 racial lineage but of the way their soul is the way their mind is and that's why

01:18:38.480 jotens that come to the gods and join the gods become elevated and they're not simply just

01:18:44.680 always and forever i think again because people um try to use that to push an agenda

01:18:51.340 of like, oh, they're a foreigner and the gods married a foreigner.

01:18:56.340 No, it's very much a transfer of mindset and of the soul might and where they're going.

01:19:04.780 If they join the gods in the form of order, then they would be seen as living amongst the gods, 0.68

01:19:12.820 descended perhaps from the Jotuns, sure, but now they were of the gods. 0.99

01:19:17.760 And then if you had the Jotuns as ancient beings who sometimes were neutral and sometimes were of, you know, ancient existence, but the moment they turned into something, you know, malicious and aggressive and actively reaching out to destroy mankind or to destroy that which the gods have built or worked with, 0.99

01:19:44.880 They become trolls and troll is, uh, I would say is kind of like our word in equivalency to like 1.00

01:19:53.520 demon, even though demons not used correctly, demon is a Greek word and it just means lesser

01:19:59.360 than a full blown God. So Hercules was technically a demon and, you know, Christians have just 0.98

01:20:07.340 absolutely twisted its meaning. But, you know, they didn't have a word to translate 0.99

01:20:15.080 from the Aramaic word Shadim, so they used that word. But trolls are like an equivalency to Shadim

01:20:26.840 in the judaic christian religion um so at least speaks and he says corpse hungry giantess

01:20:39.640 jotun uh how art thou called say which who thy father was i think the emphasis on was is pretty

01:20:51.000 brutal um nine miles deeper down mayest thou sink and a tree grow tall on thy bosom in essence i'm

01:21:02.600 going to put you in the grave um prim girth speaks spake in 17 prim girth am i my father

01:21:17.000 was hathi of giants the most in might many a woman he won from her home air helgi hewed him down

01:21:29.400 um we see that in post um also through days in iceland there are many stories of trolls or or

01:21:40.760 jotuns coming down from the mountains and kidnapping human you know women um but they've

01:21:47.320 been baptized or they have a cross on their heads so then you know they get they get um saved but

01:21:54.200 what that really shows is there is a deep um connection to the these these forces these dangerous

01:22:03.800 uh brood of emir um responsible for the disappearances of people um so you know he says here

01:22:16.040 you know many a women he won from from her home so that's directly speaking like he was just 0.54

01:22:22.520 you know the king of kidnapping humans and taking them away which would have an effect on the

01:22:28.840 audience um at least spake uh 18 which in front of the ship thou that wast and lay before the fjord

01:22:41.720 to ron would wouldst have given the rulers men if a spear had not stuck in thy flesh

01:22:50.200 So the translation of Raun, he speaks of Raun. Raun is not of the Aesir, but they have entered pact, that they are in a tentative submission to the Aesir.

01:23:14.080 um and she is seen as you know a yotan still but um here in the middle world and is a part of the 0.61

01:23:27.580 ever kind of consuming ocean and the ocean is the blood of emir it's the one place

01:23:34.900 where the ancient powers of the Jotuns are still very much alive, quite literally, 0.85

01:23:44.600 in, you know, the animals that were around and shaped by these Jotuns from, you know, before, even dinosaurs.

01:23:53.880 So, you know, he says that you were coming here and you were attempting to sink our ship and give us over to Raun. 0.67

01:24:06.060 Primgirth spake in 19

01:24:14.680 Dall art thou, Atli

01:24:18.060 Thou dreamest, methinks

01:24:20.660 The lids lie over thine eyes

01:24:24.060 By the leader's ship my mother lay 0.67

01:24:28.100 Hlothfjard's sons on the sea I slew 0.94

01:24:33.560 20 thou wouldn't nay atli but gelded thou art see prim girth hoists her tail

01:24:46.560 in the hinder end is thy heart methinks thou thy speech is a stallion's cry um

01:24:56.820 this is interesting as it starts to kind of move into is she in the shape of a woman is

01:25:07.740 in the shape of some animal um and is she ultimately casting a spell beguiling him

01:25:16.680 the idea that you know his eyes are covered and that he's you know dull and she's not

01:25:23.000 I mean, it is an insult, but more likely, too, that this is a proclamation that his brain is being hindered.

01:25:35.540 I just love the fact that the translation is duliver, like dull, and that she's basically casting ignorance upon him.

01:25:53.000 and so then if she does take the shape of an animal if she does uh perhaps maybe even see

01:26:05.820 he sees her as an animal and then he too sees himself as an animal so this is all

01:26:13.700 kind of part of the the glamour of it of the of the trickery of it is that perhaps he is not

01:26:20.820 but in his mind he is seeing this interaction and outly speaks a stallion i seem if thou seekest

01:26:32.180 to to try me and i leap to land from the sea i shall smite thee to bits if so i will and heavy 0.96

01:26:41.640 sinks krim girth's tail so you know i she's i will dull your mind i will blind your eyes 0.97

01:26:52.080 and to you you shall see a beautiful mare and then he says well if i'm a stallion i'm going to hop 0.99

01:26:59.160 over there and crush you i'm going to smite you with my sword krim girth speaks spake go ashore 0.75

01:27:09.420 then atli if sure of thy might let us come to varin's cove straight shall thy rounded ribs be 0.99

01:27:17.300 made if thou comest within my claws so she's going to um rip him open if you will um and atli speaks

01:27:31.180 I will not go till the warriors wake, again, their chief to guard. 0.98

01:27:39.060 I should wonder not, foul witch, if up from beneath our keel thou shouldst come. 1.00

01:27:48.200 Primgirth spake in 24, Awake now, Helgi, and Primgirth requite, 1.00

01:27:53.860 that Haiti to death thou didst hew. 0.83

01:27:59.680 If a single night she can sleep by the prince, 0.99

01:28:03.400 then required are all her ills.

01:28:08.720 So now it becomes, instead of fighting,

01:28:15.100 and perhaps this proposition would be played either way. 0.96

01:28:19.720 She just wanted to kill Attlee.

01:28:23.860 for him you know mouthing off at her so bravely so um but now she's kind of turning and helgi spake

01:28:33.320 tis loathen shall have thee thou art loathsome to men his home is in thawley he was of the wild

01:28:45.080 dweller's worst is the is the giant wise he is meat as a mate for thee i like the the usage of

01:28:58.760 you know he is of the of equal to you so um he is clearly speaking of another giant lovin um has

01:29:08.360 very similar the reason why like people say that uh ragnar loderbok needs not leather pants but

01:29:16.920 like shaggy sheep pants is because of loven or law of the um meaning shaggy so this giant is

01:29:28.440 the shaggy one and and he says no um go find yourself one of your own you know 0.96

01:29:35.240 beings um he's a better mate uh we we do not you're you're far too loath the loathsome to our 0.97

01:29:43.880 mortal eyes uh before we go further i thought we'd uh take a second answer some questions there

01:29:51.720 were a few that were um in the live chat before the stream actually started that i wanted to

01:29:58.280 cover because we don't get to them now i'm gonna forget and they're gonna get lost uh heathen man

01:30:03.240 asks uh just caught up completely on vns over the last couple days and a couple questions came

01:30:08.520 up i thought i'd ask i'm taking one at a time heathen man hope you don't mind uh number one

01:30:14.280 does the afa have any revenue stream outside of the hoff total or membership fees in the past

01:30:19.240 you've mentioned that before i knew hoff has established a certain amount of revenue must

01:30:22.680 be coming in to maintain it have you thought about investing a portion of income into something like

01:30:27.320 super stable dividend stocks or perhaps a crypto stable coin it pays a weekly percentage on your

01:30:33.080 hold etc so first uh just to be fully clear we need yet so the revenue stream coming in is a

01:30:42.920 is an important part of the hoff acquisition process of course another thing though that

01:30:50.200 people don't realize is we need a solid base of membership and leadership in the area so uh

01:30:56.520 For example, you know, Frazehoff is set to be in eastern Ohio, western Pennsylvania, and that's in a perfect spot because we have a great membership base there led by Witten Erickson and his wife, Githya Erickson, as well as folk builders John Rock, Joe Drotos, and Mike Malio.

01:31:14.180 um john rock and mike maleo specifically are in the gotha scully the gothar school and so you know

01:31:21.800 they'll be tentatively ordained at some point we'll be able to help the erickson's manage

01:31:27.320 that hoff in that district so while we do need revenue we uh also need membership and leadership

01:31:34.280 regularly attending things in that area so that we know the hoff will be you know used once it's

01:31:40.620 established uh that said yes we do have one other revenue stream outside of donations and

01:31:49.120 hoftoller uh is merchandise so for example we've been selling you know merchandise through teespring

01:31:56.200 uh the calendars that my wife made and of course this new t-shirt celebrating the 30th anniversary

01:32:03.120 of the austral folk assembly also made by my wife who was on via vns last week if you missed that

01:32:10.340 um you can get it at roomstone.org slash store we are getting them from a new source than uh

01:32:18.420 than teespring and so they're better better quality and they're much cheaper so that's win

01:32:26.000 win for us and for the buyer so check that out and you can support us that way and have a pretty

01:32:33.300 cool shirt let's see the second question we considered doing a show or a segment of a show

01:32:42.140 on some of the main points or counterpoints when debating our christian family and friends

01:32:46.360 it comes up often in shows but mostly in bits and pieces so a condensed version of some of the best

01:32:51.700 argumentation persuasion in one place might be helpful to some of us that's an interesting

01:32:56.820 question i had a conversation with a gentleman on x who follows us um about you know he'll kind

01:33:04.260 of ask me things about you know well my christian relatives say this what can i respond to with it

01:33:08.420 and a lot of the counterpoints towards christianity frankly is that it's not it's not us

01:33:15.760 it's not ours christianity is just a globalized version of judaism as uh witness fawn kind of

01:33:22.840 alluded to earlier. And there are other issues with it, of course. I think Witten Spahn and I

01:33:28.720 might be some of the most vocal dislikers of Christianity in leadership, actually. I know

01:33:36.720 I've seen him be pretty vocal about it on Twitter. And Judaism and Islam, I will say,

01:33:43.860 across the board. But uniquely, Christianity does affect our folk more than the other two, 0.95

01:33:52.200 as far as like conversion and you know things like that right um so i don't know if a whole

01:34:00.360 episode would be devoted to arguing with christianity because it so in also true outside

01:34:07.480 of the social and cultural stuff and the conversion christianity is irrelevant to us it's

01:34:13.960 just an expansion of the sect of a specific second judaism so that's for their peoples for them it

01:34:21.000 doesn't affect us spiritually or you know uh you got something wouldn't spawn yeah i was gonna say

01:34:30.840 though perhaps too because a great amount of this could be um brought up by interaction with the

01:34:40.840 chat so you know posing questions like you know my family um called me a devil worshiper um and

01:34:50.120 you know we could probably answer like right then and there as to like what you could possibly say

01:34:55.880 to that so it's not necessarily like um loaded um answers but you know more conceptualized

01:35:07.560 things that you could bring up or point out to your family when they do bring you um i know this

01:35:14.920 sounds super strange because you know my mom was so much into kind of help she was so pivotal into

01:35:22.920 helping me become house through but when i first started doing it physically um she

01:35:32.680 i don't know why but because she's like lackadaisical lutheran but um perhaps i think

01:35:39.480 to my brother who was newly converted into some non-denominational um you know christianity um

01:35:48.680 maybe he was kind of like influencing her or kind of scaring her but she went through a moment there

01:35:54.760 where she was like what are you doing are you worshiping the devil and um i needed to go through

01:36:02.040 and kind of explain to her that you know our ancestors had a legitimate faith and you have been

01:36:09.480 you know, kind of conditioned to think that anything outside of this, you know,

01:36:14.720 Judaic religion is evil. And, um, so I did face some backlash from her and from my brother,

01:36:22.900 um, who's no longer in that, you know, non-denominational, um, Christian,

01:36:31.800 you know mega church stuff um but he was pretty hardcore he was he was thumping it um and he came

01:36:42.380 at me a lot of the time so i you know and i think all of us kind of have so if we had like um

01:36:50.340 maybe even a couple people and then just have people ask questions about again defending your

01:36:56.540 faith, maintaining, uh, you know, loyalty to the gods, but also not necessarily rolling into your

01:37:06.180 family so that it, you know, it, it ends. I have many customers too, who are very devout Christians

01:37:13.460 and I have conversations with them. And I think almost all of them know. Um, and I still, you

01:37:23.940 know the ones that have stayed i'm almost positive none of them have left so um so there is also ways

01:37:30.760 that you can reach out and not necessarily go for aggressive defense but to kind of alleviate people

01:37:38.380 and um make them more understanding that would be a cool show i don't know what we would name it

01:37:46.920 yeah we'll have to get creative with that but yeah um you raised a good point there at the end

01:37:54.400 to a lot of uh especially here in the bible belt where i'm at um a lot of uh you know my

01:38:00.940 interactions with christians is largely assuring them that i'm not worshiping some evil entity

01:38:09.700 uh you know and that my values are not always the same but often very similar to theirs to

01:38:16.640 conservative you know normal traditional christians at least um so the third uh question

01:38:26.320 from heathen man uh i know the sigerheim location is in jackson tennessee jackson county uh but is

01:38:32.360 the exact location available or is it temporarily on the down low i only ask because i'm driving

01:38:37.080 east through tennessee soon and thought i might just drive past and see what it and the area

01:38:41.880 around it is like the nearest town the nearest decent-sized city etc uh so producer nick answered

01:38:48.740 a lot of that for you specifically in the chat but i'm going to repeat it just so other folks

01:38:52.540 can hear it um i don't know the exact number of the address i have it somewhere but it's

01:38:57.820 hunting creek road in whitleyville tennessee yeah i don't know get on that road drive until you see

01:39:03.060 the awesome statue of a founder and get you mcnalen um yeah anybody feel free to reach out

01:39:09.780 producer nick on the side or in the live chat now if you like and you can schedule a meetup

01:39:16.140 well and also too we uh you can google every hoth and you can find us on google you can

01:39:28.620 type us into the give me directions and we go um i think that was a huge thing for

01:39:37.580 sigerheim's not exactly on google but there are people out there who have posted the address

01:39:44.820 okay well and again the get in the like the proto state of it but yeah yeah the hops are

01:39:52.140 are accessible. Um, you know, I, I, I think that was super important because we were coming from

01:40:00.880 Alcitru that had no Hoffs that had none of these and the legitimacy of that, um, to be able to,

01:40:08.340 you know, look up a Wikipedia page and see that it's mentioned, Hey, this town is known for having,

01:40:13.920 uh, generally, you know, they say the ancient Viking religion of Alcitru. Um, and you know,

01:40:21.340 hey that's good that that's i'll take that um but yeah there there is far too much i that fear that

01:40:32.460 we're doing something wrong we're doing something evil and no we're not you know we're helping

01:40:39.420 people in the community we're we're giving out food uh and and at the same time all we ask is

01:40:45.820 for the privacy to honor our gods the gods of our people in peace and we do the same in return and i

01:40:55.900 i think a lot of people get this idea in their head we are boogeyman so hard that people start

01:41:04.220 to try to fill in that boogeyman um and and they become a caricature that was tailored by someone

01:41:13.900 else that you know hates us and you know the when they look at it oh they say the word arian

01:41:21.580 or they say white people and um you know you go on the internet you see far far worse and again

01:41:29.260 context is everything the way that we um you know with our sun wheels and the way that we talk

01:41:35.740 talk about the gods and us as people in relation to them. So, you know, I really think it's

01:41:43.680 important that we consider that what we are doing is noble, right, and true, not something that we

01:41:50.600 have to hide. If it's not known, it's not because it's hiding. It's generally, like in this case,

01:41:57.380 it's just location and logistics not any of that so yeah i that kind of like you mentioned we have

01:42:10.580 nothing to hide we're not doing anything wrong you know i i've been saying a lot recently wear

01:42:14.660 your hammer outside your shirt ironically kind of uh mine is inside my shirt because i choose

01:42:20.020 to wear this with my suit instead because it looks neat but you get the idea um one more

01:42:26.100 questions so far. And, uh, by the way, guys, just a reminder, this is a question driven program

01:42:31.240 for the most part. So feel free to ask us anything. Uh, I'm not going to say there are

01:42:37.600 no stupid questions, but there are a few stupid questions and we'll answer those too. Anyway. 1.00

01:42:43.100 Um, but yeah, so Jilly asks, my friend, Rachel Kinsler told me there was a VNS episode that

01:42:49.800 addressed this touchy issue. If it was a while ago, could Matt and the guest or guests talk

01:42:55.240 about what we should do about ancestors who have left this world with reputation of poor deeds

01:42:59.400 thanks uh yeah i have a little thing about that and then witness fawn will uh you know give us

01:43:06.840 his wisdom as well uh but just while it's on my brain um that's yeah so the best thing you can do

01:43:13.300 to put it simply i guess is to live a good life live a noble life and restore you know your your

01:43:20.060 your family's homing you, right? Restore that honor to your line. A lot of, you know, modern,

01:43:29.640 let's put it in modern lingo, I guess, people often talk about breaking generational curses

01:43:34.840 and just one way to break a generational curse is to be Alcetru and join the AFA.

01:43:43.460 And another example, I guess, is lots of us, myself included, are children of divorce,

01:43:48.500 right and so that's a big talking point with people my age and younger is breaking that

01:43:55.060 generational curse of you know giving our children broken homes and so that's one of my goals is to

01:44:01.620 you know not not be a terrible father and give my son a crappy home um witness fawn what do you got

01:44:10.700 on that well i you brought up two points that i wasn't even thinking of yeah if you're if the

01:44:16.820 if the reputation of your ancestors has affected like the way people look at you maybe you're

01:44:25.060 living in a small town and your uncle or great uncle or you know great aunt or whatever had done

01:44:32.580 something where it just kind of doomed or kind of just held over on your family yeah your deeds

01:44:39.720 are absolutely the key and the hallmark to getting out of that and again too you just

01:44:46.400 kind of stopping the cycles of problematic behavior, not being, you know, so amicable to

01:44:58.100 just end a marriage or certainly looking at your behavior with your children, making, you know,

01:45:04.440 sure that you just, that you don't cross over into those lines of abuse or neglect or what have you.

01:45:13.960 um because again your descendants are just as much a key balancing factor to your ancestors

01:45:23.640 but i um and i was also going to say what you said some people might scoff at the idea when

01:45:28.920 you said first off join the astra folk assembly but no we're dead serious the idea is that one um

01:45:38.040 Um, the gods are real. So by you taking steps forward to help them further in the world and

01:45:48.320 come to the folk is a legitimate act that you're doing. So that's one thing. But then on top of

01:45:56.860 that, you are healing that rift. Your ancestors pass away and they suddenly become connected with

01:46:08.500 the lines that came before them. And, you know, the communication between those lines

01:46:18.900 becomes direct. There's no barriers. There's no weird. There's no events. There's no,

01:46:27.460 you know, your perception of that time becomes interconnected with those before you. So I 100%

01:46:37.200 believe that our Christian ancestors return to the ancestors and realize that perhaps they were 0.79

01:46:47.620 um you know miscued maybe they were tricked into the whole you know if you do this you're

01:46:54.340 going to go to a bad place if you don't give unconditional love to the king of the israelites

01:46:58.520 so after they kind of pass through and they enter in with all of the loved ones

01:47:03.940 um they realize but when it comes down to

01:47:07.620 ancestors who have done egregious things again egregious things is a is a is a a matter that i

01:47:19.640 think most everyone can agree on if it's it's beyond you know if they have um murdered their

01:47:28.140 own kinfolk and been a kinslayer um if they have uh you know hurt a small child um there's

01:47:38.300 there are really really distinct things that make someone a needling but our ancestors

01:47:47.020 um have also experienced lives where perhaps they did make fully foolish decisions um

01:47:54.540 And they understand that. And I think also, too, that our ancestors understood that hard decisions and decisions that they probably were not proud with, but had to make them.

01:48:05.000 And also, too, just like the folly of, you know, following a foreign religion built around a mortal and the organization around it, I think also that they come to an understanding of the level that their deeds, the effect that they have had on others.

01:48:31.260 um and it is about you need to reach out to them in order for that line of communication to come 0.93

01:48:42.440 in um a perfect example of this is like this year for yule we have ancestors night on the 24th and

01:48:52.140 we speak about our ancestors and and my father passed away um two years ago and we did not have

01:48:58.520 a great relationship um but i told my kids about him i told my kids about um the good things that

01:49:06.680 i remember because i don't think he did anything that would warrant him as being a needling

01:49:11.800 but instead you know there were things that perhaps i had issues with and that really does

01:49:19.540 require sometimes the healing that we need to have might only happen after they pass but if you have

01:49:27.300 chance to heal it before they do you know definitely go out there and do that but you know

01:49:34.500 at the end of the day i believe that my father is with the line of my ancestors and he is learning

01:49:42.820 about the effects of the deeds that he did and how far they went and the only way that he can heal

01:49:49.460 and I can heal is if I open up that line of communication. It just really depends on

01:49:56.320 what exactly the details of that is. That I don't know, but on the general sense,

01:50:06.040 I think that healing for them is just as important as healing for us. And that can come from the

01:50:12.720 framing of this new relationship. They are now beyond the veil and see through the well that

01:50:19.820 they have and the entire processes and can bestow gifts upon us. And the only way they can do that

01:50:28.200 is again, if we establish the gift cycle with them. Yeah. You know, so if anyone, anyone who

01:50:37.140 is listening to this, if you have some sort of generational stank, I guess, consider this your

01:50:48.620 sign to start working on it. Fix yourself for your descendants and for your ancestors. There's

01:50:54.620 this thing people always say, and it's such a cliche, but people say it for a reason. You know,

01:51:00.300 they always say tomorrow is a new day. When this context, you're the new day. You are the dawn.

01:51:05.560 you're the next round it's you know the best time to do something is yesterday of course the second

01:51:12.260 best time is right now you can fix things now so it's something to think about there

01:51:19.680 yeah and it's so intrinsic that you open up that line of communication

01:51:27.360 through the gift cycle it is imperative because it is the linchpin to opening up

01:51:36.320 that communication that's why we emphasize the gift cycle so much

01:51:40.700 and why we have maintained our gift cycle with the holy ice here for so long

01:51:49.220 the short answer is uh go to runestone.org slash join and uh no in all seriousness though yeah

01:51:56.520 become Alcatru if you're not already. Ah, there's producer Nick with the link. And join us here.

01:52:03.980 Join us in what we're doing. We are reforging Alcatru. We're reforging that connection with

01:52:08.700 the Iseer and with those ancestors, with our Alcatru ancestors, and with our Christian ancestors 1.00

01:52:15.780 that sort of gave us that generational curse, so to speak. We're healing those bonds. We're

01:52:21.780 rebuilding things. We're making connections that were lost.

01:52:27.100 Yeah. And remember Christianity preaches, you shouldn't, you shouldn't be honoring, 1.00

01:52:33.740 you shouldn't be, you know, reaching back and longing for your ancestors, because unless 0.96

01:52:40.000 they've done a very specific set of rules, they're not in the good place. So a lot of

01:52:47.260 separation and division right it and you know we're all about looking back to the past but also

01:52:55.400 moving forward so if you need to uh i know it's a a common thing for people who watched vikings

01:53:03.160 back in 2010 or whenever there was like this ragnar love rock meme that says uh don't look

01:53:10.520 back you're not going that way well you can look back look back long enough take your ancestors

01:53:15.200 his hands and then look forward and move with them in tow re-establish that kin fence here in this

01:53:22.300 life and uh beyond the veil uh with that that's all our questions for now we want to get back to

01:53:31.660 the uh the awesome story yes so helgi tells tells rimger to kick rocks and that she should go

01:53:43.600 you know over yonder and find herself a giant that's more suitable and his name is shaggy or 0.84

01:53:52.120 you know um basically just a mess and uh because you are hideous to be beheld by human eyes 0.98

01:54:00.600 so really it's more or less an insult it's just um kind of tossing at her uh rimger spake 0.67

01:54:10.560 Twenty-six.

01:54:40.560 speaks spake hrymgerth mark if thy hurts i requite tell now the truth to the king

01:54:51.760 was there one who the ships of the warriors warded or did many together go so she alludes to the maiden

01:55:01.280 um that keeps her at bay and keeps the men protected and um he asks well you know if you

01:55:14.880 speak any truth at all um you know who is she what is her name where does you know and and um

01:55:23.840 or is this just another one of your games 1.00

01:55:26.000 Hrimgirth spake in 28, thrice nine there were, but one rode first, a helmed maid, white of hue,

01:55:41.040 their horses quivered, there came from their manes, dew in the dales so deep, hail on the woods so high,

01:55:52.920 Thence men their harvest have, but ill was the sight I saw.

01:56:01.240 Atli spake, look eastward, Hrimgirth, for Helgi has struck thee down with the runes of death.

01:56:10.440 Safe in harbor floats the prince's fleet, and safe are the monarch's men.

01:56:15.720 30 it is day rim girth for atli held thee till now thy life thou must lose as a harbor mark

01:56:29.480 men shall mock at thee wherein stone thou shalt ever stand so the whole point of this exchange

01:56:37.800 was simply just to delay.

01:56:41.460 Now, this is an interesting part here

01:56:43.580 because it seems to be that the general sense

01:56:48.980 of like a Jotun that comes into the middle world,

01:56:51.800 that travels from the east and comes into the mortal world

01:56:57.240 is turned to stone by the sunlight, 1.00

01:57:01.240 just like the Dvergar. 0.98

01:57:03.780 Is this across the board?

01:57:06.420 I don't think so.

01:57:07.800 and it may be that this transition of spiritual beings in our ancestors time were starting to be

01:57:21.000 uh you know morphed into um kind of you know fairies and tiny little beings and little gnomes

01:57:30.520 and and the the what exactly worked against them was shared across the board but clearly here we 0.74

01:57:41.560 see he says to this troll iron works against you and now the sun is here and you shall turn to stone

01:57:49.640 though it's not emphasized but i also wonder too if the the de-evolution of the jotun into a troll

01:57:56.840 or or a being of malice um somehow again makes them affected by things in the middle world like

01:58:04.520 light and iron and what have you um or it just could be on the author's part that they're just

01:58:12.040 kind of crossing you know all of the columns with these um kind of like silver bullets for vampires

01:58:21.400 uh you know it's like we know it's for werewolves but somewhere along the way it kind of

01:58:25.720 you know became that thing so it's like we see a lot of that transition uh with mythical beings

01:58:32.920 all the time um but that was the point um you know i'm the master at this if i had a chance

01:58:42.200 to explain i would talk him to death literally right into the sun um so it moves on um

01:58:54.920 So, King Helgi was a mighty warrior, and he came to King Eilemi. So now we immediately shift, and again, it's really important for people to remember how fragmentary these poems are.

01:59:12.400 And so it will be hard for people to follow. I think the more important thing to look at is, again, like the stuff we've been talking about, the iron, the sun, the description of the Valkyries, you know, the mentioning of whether it's holy tides or the gift cycle and, you know, giving up cattle and creating an altar.

01:59:40.760 or actually the word they used was horker, an outdoor stone table, versus a staller,

01:59:51.380 which is indoor or a harrow, as we often call it. Look at those details. I think it's really

02:00:00.140 important listening to those, hearing those, considering, and maybe even looking into things

02:00:06.280 when you have a chance or time to kind of like, you know, figure out why our ancestors saw things these ways.

02:00:16.600 And I think that we at the Astro Folk Assembly are here to kind of help clarify, you know,

02:00:23.180 the nuanced details of why a troll can be a Jotun because of that transition to malice 0.54

02:00:31.460 or you know the difference between like and how they're not like elves aren't the same it's they're

02:00:42.420 synthesized with the the other part of their name um so we have here the transition goes back over

02:00:54.420 now um helgi is you know a renowned king um then helgi and svalva exchanged vows

02:01:08.580 showing marriage and um the actual ceremonial exchanging of oaths um predating christianity so

02:01:20.900 um and they greatly loved each other svalva was at home with her father while helgi was in the field

02:01:32.600 svalva was still a valkyrie as before so a lot of theories have come about in these discussions as to

02:01:43.640 was she a Valkyrie who then is reborn as a woman or does she trans like transfigure herself from a

02:01:57.040 spiritual being into a mortal being um you know again it's up to debate for a good reason it's

02:02:06.700 worth you know looking into but i think too a lot of the times the stories especially these

02:02:14.320 composite stories are brought together and characters are placed into positions to create

02:02:23.520 framework and sometimes you know he needs to get a sword but he's not going to get a sword from just

02:02:29.680 anyone he needs to get a sword from a valve so they there is a there's a certain level of tailoring

02:02:35.580 i think um and is that blasphemous i don't if i'm proven wrong then i will absolutely see the error

02:02:46.060 of my ways but i'm just giving the possibility that storytelling and poetry um is we shouldn't

02:02:53.820 view it as uh again like the way that um mortal like religions that are built around mortal men

02:03:02.220 um take the the written word of these mortal men as you know um as if it was descended from their

02:03:12.220 their god um so uh

02:03:20.700 haven was at home with his father king jorva in norway

02:03:26.780 hay then was coming home alone from the forest one yule eve um and that there is an interesting

02:03:35.900 point um one the multitude of days for yule um but it could also again be referring to

02:03:43.660 the yule month in and of itself so it just could mean winter tidying or it could be specifically

02:03:50.780 during yule and he found a troll woman she rode on a wolf this is um

02:04:03.020 this is a trope this is a common story point that trolls and wolves are deeply connected and again

02:04:12.380 to um an agrarian culture that relies heavily on animal husbandry the wolf is that kind of

02:04:20.940 constant symbol of the outside chaos trying to get in and um or you know it could be the fox

02:04:30.700 or the coyote it's just that uniquely here so you know that's kind of done on purpose we see that

02:04:38.620 in howard barth when he speaks to lord thor and says you know that the the troll the wolf riding

02:04:45.420 troll witches um it's just again a commonality a title and a placement because of that consideration

02:04:53.980 that they're not mastering the bestial they are synthesizing with it they are becoming

02:05:02.220 um and utilizing the animalistic and the chaos and what that chaos represents to society

02:05:10.120 and they have embraced it um

02:05:15.420 and she had snakes in place of a bridle um this is another thing that's used um during

02:05:27.560 in in balder's drama during his funeral the uh the jotin um haurakin comes to the funeral

02:05:41.080 riding a wolf with snakes as a bridle and i think this was just again a very

02:05:47.060 cool and popular way during the time to denote this i think also too it's worth noting that

02:05:54.060 her um presence at the funeral is kind of showing that even the most dastardly and oftentimes

02:06:04.040 malicious beings some of them um were not so far as they would to hate lord balder um

02:06:13.820 and that's why he she came to the funeral um she asks hayden for his company nay said he

02:06:23.760 she said thou shalt pay for this at the king's toast so at at at sumble you shall pay for this

02:06:33.440 and that evening the great vows were taken the sacred boar was brought brought in and now that's

02:06:40.140 another reason why i believe this is specifically during yule and not during yule month is because

02:06:46.480 the sacred boar and the eating of the boar's head i think was not just something in england

02:06:53.140 but all throughout um and so they're holding sumble and they're eating the boar's head

02:07:01.200 um at this time that's you know pretty good evidence that this is going on during yule

02:07:10.120 and for us this would be 12th night of the eating of the boar's head or eating of the

02:07:15.160 sacred boar pig and holding sumble for the new year um so she says you shall pay for this and

02:07:24.620 that evening the great vows were taken sacred boar was brought in the men laid their hands there on

02:07:30.940 and took their vows at the king's toast um for anybody who you know follows like perhaps our

02:07:39.200 social media or what have you um you know eating the the pig's head or the and cooking a pig's head

02:07:47.020 on 12th night and placing your finger upon its forehead and making like resolutions is this is

02:07:54.820 the source where it comes from um the sacred boar was was brought in the men laid their hands there

02:08:02.420 on and took vows at the king's toast or sumble. Hayden vowed he would have Svalva, Ailemi's

02:08:11.520 daughter, the beloved of his brother Helgi. Then such great grief seized him that he went forth

02:08:20.440 on wild paths southward over the land, found Helgi his brother, and Helgi said. So in this,

02:08:30.640 you know this is he he takes this vow and this troll which says you will be doomed

02:08:38.800 from this time and so in essence it's almost like he speaks his dark desire he covets

02:08:49.040 you know his brother's wife and um and he goes mad and he like uh immediately like runs forth

02:09:00.640 and goes down wild paths so this is the audience would be like oh like what and

02:09:09.120 he proceeds to rush forward in in that uh inhuman way um and his brother greets him

02:09:20.000 31. Welcome, Haven! What hast thou to tell of new tidings that from Norway come? Wherefore didst leave thy land, O Prince, and fared alone to find us here?

02:09:35.680 haven spake a deed more evil i have done than brother mine thou ever canst mend for i have

02:09:45.960 chosen the child of the king thy bride for mine at the monarch's stumble or toast

02:09:53.940 helgi spake grieve not haven for true shall hold the words we both by the beer have sworn

02:10:03.340 To the isle a warrior wills that I go.

02:10:08.080 There shall I come the third night hence, and doubtful must be my coming back.

02:10:13.420 So may all be well, if fate so wills.

02:10:18.120 So this, you know, the dark desires he's speaking,

02:10:23.860 and he releases this, like, I'm going to be with my brother's wife.

02:10:27.620 and he immediately tears at himself and goes towards his brother and then his brother says

02:10:35.380 something more unexpected he says no you might be the fitting suitor for my bride because i have

02:10:43.380 been willed to go um to this island and uh i might i'm probably not coming back and so this kind of

02:10:53.940 of not diffuses the situation but instantly turns it on its ear

02:11:01.860 um and then heaven spoke in 34

02:11:08.740 thou saidest once helgi that haven was a friend full good and gifts did give him more

02:11:15.780 seemly it were thy sword to redden than friendship thus to thy foe to give

02:11:22.820 so a couple of parts in there um you know you said to me that i was a good friend and you gave

02:11:33.440 me gifts but it would be more honorable seemly is kind of in line with um honor and if someone's

02:11:43.460 acting unseemly they are acting unhonorably or inhonorably or dishonorably um it would seem more

02:11:51.600 seemly that you would run me through with your sword than speak of you know friendship and

02:12:00.440 acting in in this way i i you know i'm i'm a dastardly guy i'm i've just said in front of 0.77

02:12:06.540 everyone this terrible stuff and and you're saying it might not be so bad because i'm gonna die 0.66

02:12:16.380 um helgi spoke thus because he foresaw his death for his following spirits the philker

02:12:28.220 um the philker had met haven when he saw the woman riding on the wolf

02:12:36.540 Now, that's a very interesting point there is, one, it wasn't always seen simply that there was a single Filchia, but that there were multiple spirits that could also be connected to a person.

02:12:50.760 They're the spirit that takes oftentimes shape in our vision and in the middle world as an animal that represents the energy, the will, and the base nature of that person.

02:13:07.960 But also to the kinfilkia, the spirit of their people, whether it was a boar or, you know, a horse or a cat, there's lots of different examples of kinfilkia.

02:13:24.420 And so here, you know, stating again that he, you know, was, I saw multiple of the spirits that are of me, of the soul of my people, of the soul of myself, etc.

02:13:42.540 um alf was the name of a king the son of hrothmar who had marked out a battle place with helgi at

02:13:54.060 sigarsval after a stay of three nights so for those that might just to clarify this is the son

02:14:02.700 of Hrothmar, who Helgi and Atli took vengeance upon for burning Svauland. And now he wants

02:14:17.260 revenge. So he has, you know, proclaimed him to a duel. He has challenged him to Holmugunga

02:14:27.900 and to go into the aisle and and um and fight there um so he said yeah battle place with helgi

02:14:38.380 at sigarsville after a stay of three nights then helgi spake in 35 on a wolf there rode

02:14:46.860 when dusk it was a woman who fame would have him follow well she knew that now would fall

02:14:55.820 sigirlin's son at sigarsval so he's saying too that at this point um he received message um

02:15:07.580 from this troll witch that she had destined him to say that once he went on this errand

02:15:15.980 he was going to meet his death and we see this uh it's actually mentioned in the notes down on the 0.78

02:15:21.820 website that um another kind of um arian trademark if you will of the stories um the appearance of a

02:15:35.580 spirit before you go into battle is very much similar to say like morrigan showing up and

02:15:43.280 washing your clothes before you went to the battle of blood because you were going to die

02:15:50.580 So we kind of see some parallels there.

02:15:57.560 But then it jumps straight ahead into the situation.

02:16:06.040 That's another thing worth noting is that as people heard this,

02:16:08.740 these context verses were meant not to show about chronological,

02:16:14.820 uh i don't know like sense but to immediately spin up the audience into the next set

02:16:24.480 of verses um and the verses and the way that they were put together was very important so

02:16:32.040 you needed these little bridges to get you to the next set of verses that you had memorized

02:16:37.800 in order to tell this part of the story so they these might not have actually just been part of

02:16:43.800 original they're just yeah giving you context and timing but they're bridged and they're very very

02:16:50.920 fast so there was a great battle and there helgi got a mortal wound 36. cigar riding did helgi send

02:17:03.160 to seek out alemi alemi's only daughter bid her swiftly ready to be if her lover alive she would

02:17:11.880 find hither now has helgi sent me with these svalva thyself to speak the hero said he feign

02:17:23.880 would see thee air life the nobly born should leave so in those two verses helgi sends out

02:17:32.920 and then he says the message to Svalva so it's super fast um and I think it's just worth remembering

02:17:42.200 that the the people in the hall would be listening to the composing of the poems and the way that

02:17:50.840 they were put together just as much as they're listening to the content of the story so that's

02:17:57.240 why we do find a lot of this being you know very very choppy um but he says you know go get svalva

02:18:05.640 because if she wants to see me before i you know leave midgard uh she needs to get here now

02:18:14.680 and svalva speaks what chanced with helgi hjorvather son hard to me is harm now come

02:18:23.560 If the sea smote him or sword bit him, I shall bring to all ill, I shall bring to all his foes. So she swears revenge against if, you know, what took him. And this could be read as, please don't tell me it's the ocean. Please don't tell me that it was something like that.

02:18:50.240 Tell me if it was sword, if it was sword, then I can get revenge.

02:18:57.200 And Sigar speaks, spake in 39.

02:19:01.900 In the morn he fell at Frekestin, the king who was noblest beneath the sun.

02:19:11.420 Alf has the joy of victory all.

02:19:15.600 Though need thereof is never his.

02:19:20.240 so then uh helgi spake so in this sense he he he says to her that um

02:19:32.020 you know he fell at at this battle um and he is still so noble still so true so so um

02:19:41.940 you know forthright to to reach out to her that it's really it doesn't matter now

02:19:51.100 it's more important that you come um and she does and helgi spake in 40 hail to thee svalva thy

02:20:02.820 sorrow rule our meeting last in life this is hard the wounds of the hero bleed and close to my heart

02:20:13.280 the sword has come so he immediately says to her hello and the thy sorrow rule kind of is alluding

02:20:22.940 to the fact that she's showing up and she is you know completely uh cloaked in sorrow

02:20:31.580 and yet he is just saying no this is our last meeting and you know i've been struck in my heart

02:20:37.840 but i wanted to see you um you know again just like in the halvamal it says that a prince should

02:20:47.480 go forth um even to his end with with brightness clarity nobility and and laughter um and he says

02:20:58.440 to her helgi spake in 41 i bid thee svalva weep not bride if thou wilt hearken to these my words

02:21:07.880 the bed for heathen hath thou ready and yield thy love to the hero young so

02:21:17.480 He is saying, take Hathen to be your husband.

02:21:23.480 And again, we spoke about this in Eil's saga, is that marriage, especially inheritance, children, the way that they would be taken care of and brought under fostering of the stepfather.

02:21:38.040 This was all hugely important at the time.

02:21:41.220 and um you know for a woman to not you know move forward and remarry and what have you

02:21:52.440 had huge political implications um and in this case he's saying you know I love you but

02:22:00.340 I am not long for this world and uh you must still live in it so go now and take um

02:22:09.980 um haven because you know he has already proclaimed his love for you um

02:22:16.820 svalva spake in 42 a vow i had in my dear loved home when helgi sought with rings to have me

02:22:26.020 thy not of my will if the warrior died would i fold in my arms a man unfeigned so she

02:22:35.960 says you know that her love is for him and she would never take to the wiles of falling into

02:22:45.100 the arms of a of a man especially one who's young and inexperienced and um you know not of any

02:22:54.840 renowned.

02:22:59.540 Hethn spake.

02:23:03.260 Kiss me, Svalva. 0.99

02:23:05.620 I come not back. 0.95

02:23:07.860 Rogheim to see.

02:23:09.740 Or Rathosfjol

02:23:10.840 till vengeance I have 0.96

02:23:13.160 for the son of Hjordvoth,

02:23:15.740 the king who was

02:23:17.340 noblest beneath

02:23:19.540 the sun. So he swears

02:23:21.620 now that

02:23:23.080 he will gain revenge um that if she loves helgi then she will love him and he will prove his worth

02:23:33.520 he will gain his fame by getting her revenge for the slaying of her husband

02:23:39.460 of helgi and svalva it is said that they were born again

02:23:48.140 um and this is the one of the parts that i was really wanting to get to the um

02:23:55.180 the saying that the two loves were born again in life um and that again that transference of

02:24:04.140 of the of the soul um in particular to their love for each other um you know we certainly don't

02:24:12.260 believe in you know that you die and you're immediately reincarnated or what have you

02:24:17.920 We certainly don't mean that everything that you are in this life will transfer over and that that the dead are in surplus to the living.

02:24:29.240 There are more ancestors than there are the living. So we see the ancestors as there, but there is, again, a great poetic point of that they are so in love that they will now, they could not live with each other in this life because of the way fate had turned.

02:24:52.000 they will live with each other in another life and you know i've spoken about that that the souls of

02:24:59.280 men um and our ancestors who have an ability to affect the middle world the one thing that's

02:25:07.120 worth remembering is that in that lower place in that place away where time doesn't exist where

02:25:14.720 edges don't exist in the darkness of of niflheim in in helgar um and why the gods don't just go

02:25:23.280 down there every day i'm not saying they can't but by story they don't it's a great challenge

02:25:31.280 that therein lies a well and that well has a root and that root goes straight to heaven

02:25:37.120 And that is Vergelber, and that root is being gnawed upon by Nidogar, because for the ability of the gods to pull up, to ascend the folk in death, empowers them. 0.99

02:25:55.620 If they bring someone of great renown and fame and deed up into the realm of the gods, they are empowered against the Jotans. 0.97

02:26:08.020 And I think that this was intrinsic to the way our ancestors saw that cycling. 0.99

02:26:14.120 They saw Yggdrasil as a pulling up, the root draws up from the realms that it is in, and the tree itself is in heaven.

02:26:24.680 And Nidhogg knows this and needs to break the mooring of that root to kill the tap root, the original root that the tree first grew from and eventually grew up through all the levels up into the mountains of heaven.

02:26:44.520 And so, you know, our ancestors saw this connection and having the ability to send up Hamina, to send up, you know, exalted to the gods or those nominated as Desir or Alvar, Doc Alvar specifically, that they are drawn up by the root in the third realm and go back into the realm of heaven.

02:27:10.440 And the dew that drips from that tree is, you know, that culmination of drawing up and it empowers the gods.

02:27:19.380 And here, you know, it's saying kind of more like poetically forlurning is that they couldn't love each other in this life.

02:27:28.060 So they will love each other again in another life as they are.

02:27:32.320 They will both be drawn up and placed into Orlog or into weird in the in the well of earth.

02:27:39.080 And the gods will deem that they will have, you know, another chance.

02:27:44.860 You know, it's not so much a like a religious fact or a hard press, but more, again, of just that poetic sense of, you know, they will meet again, if not in this life, in the next is very much so.

02:28:02.700 But it does lend to an understanding about how that root that draws up and why Yggdrasil has to be in heaven, that its roots are not all in Helgard, is because of this circulatory system and the way that our ancestors saw the universe and the cosmology.

02:28:26.480 They didn't see these little separate orbs or realms, but that instead, you know, the place far below that tree's taproot goes, and it has grown through Nidavellr and the Svartalfs, and it has grown through Midgard, and it goes up Himenberger and up the heavenly mountains and resides amongst the gods in the heavenly realm.

02:28:53.900 um so um now we um we move back to the battle um so kind of jumps you know uh back there was

02:29:09.500 a great battle this battle that he uh fought at in the on the aisle and there Helgi got a mortal

02:29:16.140 cigar riding did helgi send to seek out alemi's only daughter

02:29:24.540 bid her swiftly and ready to be if her lover alive she would find oh did i go backwards

02:29:33.420 yes sir you actually have i did i jumped backwards you're done yeah sorry um

02:29:40.060 Um, yeah, the, uh, I, I, like, I knew this was the end, but I was like, is that an extension

02:29:46.680 of, is there a next page?

02:29:48.540 No, it jumped me right back to the, uh, where we had went, but this does bring up, you know,

02:29:54.120 just again, we've discussed this in another BS, BNS about, um, you know, reincarnation

02:30:02.320 in relation to the way that I think modern people view reincarnation and the way that

02:30:09.900 our lore clearly indicates different things that it's not again one for one it's not that you will

02:30:17.260 end up in some other land and under some other people but that it travels through the bloodline

02:30:23.980 and it's rare that the the ancestors are built up they are a host of beings that have their

02:30:35.420 their identity but when they travel and pass things up it's oftentimes in pieces

02:30:41.900 or it's the boon that you know is decreed by the gods and i think that it's not

02:30:48.780 something that's just kind of you know willy-nilly if you will and i um to my knowledge i don't i

02:30:57.340 don't know if there are any other i mean again this is uh not a broad spectrum of but i i don't

02:31:07.660 hear a lot of folks speak about it in the religious context like the austral folk assembly does

02:31:14.060 at these processes um of knowing that our ancestors are together but that there is these boons

02:31:22.380 passed on and the story cycle that we speak of of the root and of the tree in heaven and

02:31:30.220 the disbursement of the dew these are all mythological um mechanisms speaking about

02:31:39.020 you know this process

02:31:40.140 that's it all right thank you for that as always wouldn't spawn your uh

02:31:50.700 reading skills and insight are always appreciated um so we got three coffees that's 15 dollars from

02:31:59.700 california folk builder sierra sierra chapman um let's see she left two comments i'll just read

02:32:09.380 them both uh one was special shout out to your top district hail to go the mayo go the east

02:32:15.300 alexander and mccloskeys for all the hard work they've been putting in for charming the plow

02:32:19.300 thank you uh when you get there in a couple weeks we're going to put you to work too so

02:32:24.500 um the other one is thank you witness fawn for your seemingly never-ending fountain of knowledge

02:32:31.700 that makes these streams so informative yeah so in the tale of utgard loki when um also thor is

02:32:39.380 drinking from the horn and he can't finish it because he finds that uh the other end is tied

02:32:44.420 to uh the seas uh that amount that he could not drink uh is roughly equivalent to a third

02:32:51.940 of witness fawn's vast knowledge for reference i was like what i was waiting to see where that went

02:33:00.100 um we have a few questions all from sierra almost as if somebody prompted it uh in a in a fault

02:33:11.200 builder chat um the first is that one uh what inspired y'all to become gothar uh go ahead

02:33:21.820 with and spawn um that's an interesting question for me um and i i think it's actually very poetic

02:33:32.520 that me and you are on um tonight and then this question kind of comes up because you know i

02:33:40.040 distinctly remember you being you've been in uh the house of true folk assembly longer than i have

02:33:44.760 um i came to an event and met you and your kindred and your kinsmen and um was really like given hope

02:33:54.180 of this um you know i i don't know i didn't i never felt like you were super younger than me

02:34:00.820 but it was um it was more or less just being able to see you know new blood new faces because

02:34:08.960 I had been practicing Ausatru since the 90s, and coming into the Ausatru Folk Assembly was

02:34:16.380 something that developed later. I was really, really lost, and I was dealing with a lot of

02:34:25.020 things and i was absolutely kind of um let down by the where uh the faith of our gods was going

02:34:39.660 and i felt like it needed to be greater but i was very very um gun shy so when i

02:34:48.860 decided to step out and go and see i went um at the behest of a friend of mine actually he

02:34:55.740 he prodded me to come out and go to a an afa event and um i was so

02:35:03.820 um floored by what i heard i was so amazed at um everything i would just uh and and specifically

02:35:13.820 when else he spoke and there was this moment where i was like this is this is like the real

02:35:19.020 thing this is the real deal they know where what what greatness we could be and where we should go

02:35:25.980 and what the gods deserve and there was a whole framework of thinking about the gods in a different

02:35:31.740 way it wasn't some scholastic you know uh kind of memorization adventure it wasn't um you know

02:35:41.660 dress up and larping and um kind of just like i'm doing this because i'm bored and um you know

02:35:52.060 i don't want to go to church or something like i don't want you know they these anti-religious

02:35:57.340 types or whatever no it was that synthesis of understanding that this is a real religion

02:36:02.780 the gods are real and they deserve more so um i came in and i had just relegated myself to

02:36:11.340 to being a member of a kindred starting kindred and kind of just growing that way um and then uh

02:36:24.540 talking to as her go the and then kind of going into the gothar program um i didn't know

02:36:33.660 how it all worked. I think that learning from the Ausgir Gauthier as a mentor, but also because of

02:36:45.420 my experience, was able to kind of speak about some insight or, you know, I don't know. I just,

02:36:55.460 I think that was alluring. That was, I think, an advantage for me was to be able to speak

02:37:00.160 about these things. And, um, we just would have hour long conversations or hours long conversations,

02:37:07.340 excuse me, um, on the phone, going back and forth and talking about all these things. And

02:37:13.440 so when I was asked to join the Gothar program, it wasn't, uh, you know, it wasn't a debate. Um,

02:37:23.900 I was kind of poking around to see if it was even a possibility for me, but really, you know,

02:37:29.100 it's, it's more about if you get asked to, um, step up and then, you know, when we were looking,

02:37:38.160 I was assuming that Minnesota was going to get Thorshoff and, um, and I was looking around and

02:37:44.720 then I started praying to Lord Thor about helping them find that place. And suddenly

02:37:51.200 thor soft landed right in my lap and um it was as if thor himself had just said nope you're gonna

02:38:00.820 do it now um until they can figure out what they're doing you're gonna do it now and it was

02:38:05.960 so abrupt and it was so fast and it was again right after um just a huge um gifting to lord

02:38:14.620 thor that um i just felt like wow this is i have been you know i've been told i've been told that

02:38:25.580 you know this is your this is our church speaking as from the gods um this is our uh

02:38:34.460 way forward you will get on that boat and there was really no choice like you will you will be

02:38:41.180 on that ship with all of them it's there it's it's been there this for for far too long and you

02:38:48.780 waited far too long and um you need to get on otherwise it's gonna leave it's gonna leave and

02:38:55.340 you're gonna be left behind and then you will just be kind of into the shadows of of anonymity and

02:39:02.540 and ridiculousness and i do want to have you know fame i want to be remembered i want my my friends

02:39:12.780 and family and to look upon and think about me in a way um fame doesn't always have to be

02:39:20.780 you know uh gloriousness but it is a gloriousness in perhaps a different way and i just so that's

02:39:27.180 what i wanted to bring my sincerity to the faith i wanted to bring my knowledge and my incessant

02:39:34.620 monologues um you know to speak to people for hours on end um you're honest there sir what's that

02:39:44.540 at least you're honest there sir and so yeah um but that's what kind of kind of drove me so from

02:39:52.220 a spiritual sense, I feel like the Ausitru Folk Assembly was that long ship, and the gods pointed

02:39:58.860 me in that direction and said, you need to get on there because this is the correct way to go. 0.59

02:40:04.460 And if you don't, if you stand here and don't move, that ship's going to leave. And I just

02:40:13.800 couldn't anymore. I couldn't hold back. I had tried to step out of Ausitru as an organized

02:40:20.660 religion or group gatherings or what have you because I was just so kind of displeased with

02:40:27.800 the way things were going the way I felt the way you know even the way I was acting and the way

02:40:34.740 that it was the the permeation of not being religious but being you know a party and all

02:40:43.820 that stuff really started to affect me and one thing led from that led to me being brought right

02:40:53.500 before the ship that was about to set sail and um so yeah i couldn't i couldn't pass it up and

02:41:01.740 that's just been the case every single time um and then you know being brought into the

02:41:09.260 witten was by surprise though like that was a total um you know i think elsewhere he loves to

02:41:16.620 catch people when they're off but he felt that he had a value in my council and from my experience

02:41:24.220 so joining the australia folk assembly was a late stage and i had to learn so much before i even got

02:41:33.740 here so that i could be of value of for for the church of this time and um i regret like not being

02:41:42.780 in sooner but it happened exactly as the gods deemed it in the well so that's what kind of

02:41:52.540 drove me yeah um when weird goes ever as you shall right i uh i was very blessed to get here

02:42:00.700 early i've spent my whole adult life here and it's been just the biggest blessing um what motivated

02:42:06.860 me to become a gothy was uh in 2019 i went through some antipa drama i guess and um

02:42:21.180 it i guess they thought it would they hoped it would make me apologize or something i don't know

02:42:28.220 But it just it just made me commit to this more because I thought, wow, these are some pretty hilarious people that hate me.

02:42:36.240 I must be on the right team. And just, you know, the outpouring of support I got from, you know, everybody, including Witten Spahn and the Old Sierra Goat and everybody just really showed me.

02:42:46.900 Yeah, I'm in the right place. And that's only been proven, you know, a thousand fold since then.

02:42:52.460 And I specifically after that, that same year, I took my folk builder oath at Winter Nights 2019.

02:43:00.280 And right after that, Githya Katie Erickson was ordained.

02:43:03.540 And the Ulsteria Gothi was explaining the position of Gothi or Githya and its importance.

02:43:11.840 And for whatever reason, I can't recall the words he used, but just something about that moment was it.

02:43:20.640 much like when i came when i heard about alstra for the first time i always describe it being

02:43:25.500 like the flip of a switch kind of and i just knew i had my mind on it and i was going to make it

02:43:30.340 happen i was going to join the afa etc with this it was like that same switch was flipped again

02:43:36.060 you know but rather than from up to down or something up another notch and i was like okay

02:43:42.460 I have to be a Goathe. And that early on in my time in the AFA, I did not want to be a Goathe. 1.00

02:43:51.480 I didn't feel like that was my position to be in. Like, it didn't feel like it was for me because I'd been a deacon in the Mormon church. 1.00

02:44:00.120 And so being any part of like church leadership sort of left a bad taste in my mouth, I guess.

02:44:06.820 But, yeah, that moment and everything I'd been through that year just told me this is where I needed to be.

02:44:12.460 and again everything that's happened since then has just proven it to be true uh like with wit

02:44:17.740 and spawn you know the the uh nornir wove it this way and yeah everything's weird went ever as it

02:44:25.980 as it should right um next question uh

02:44:35.500 i'm gonna answer this one even though the guy was clearly trying to stir some stuff up

02:44:40.140 he said what are your thoughts on the kindreds that have left the afa and joined the rfu

02:44:49.740 that's a great question i'm going to answer it pretty honestly but as professionally as i can

02:44:55.340 of course uh my thoughts are that i'm disappointed i'm very disappointed and a little bit sickened

02:45:03.420 um it really speaks to the soul sickness that our folk have nowadays that

02:45:10.140 You know, some of these people took oaths with the Alstrue Folk Assembly, and they tied their loyalty in, you know, to us, to our Alstrue, the Witten, and the Gothar, etc., and the rest of the folk here.

02:45:23.000 And they heard lies, easily misproven lies at that.

02:45:28.140 and um many of them knew they realized but they have such a soul sickness in them that they 0.77

02:45:38.520 chose to be weak of body mind and spirit and they uh they forsook their troth with the uh

02:45:47.780 the icer and i i know you know rfu claims to be dedicated to the icer and i'm sure many of their

02:45:55.640 members are in a way, but they, there's kind of, there's this idea in the modern age, and I think

02:46:07.000 you'll all agree, even the guy that asked the question and likely hates me, there's this trend

02:46:13.760 of, we always need the next new thing, we got to move to the next thing, the next big thing,

02:46:18.820 what's new, when can I start over, let me start something new, and it's just throwing out the old,

02:46:24.420 throwing out the baby with the bath water and starting something new so you can be you can be

02:46:28.240 the king of the castle you can be the big guy in the backyard uh get the big piece of chicken

02:46:32.780 at the barbecue as the ulterior guilty says that's silly uh and i'll say this

02:46:40.920 if you broke an oath to the icier just so you could start your own thing and

02:46:48.120 and have a you know give yourself a cool fancy title you're not else you're not

02:46:54.420 you're something else. And I don't know what it is. That's for you to find out and decide for

02:46:58.540 yourself, but you're not else true. Uh, that said, there are plenty of people who likely joined

02:47:05.000 that group because they genuinely thought it was the right thing. And they believed the lies that

02:47:11.260 were told to them. And that's not necessarily their fault. I wish that those people would

02:47:16.280 have asked us, you know, the people that they had considered family just before that, what the truth

02:47:24.000 what the matter was. And, you know, for those people, there's still certainly a road back.

02:47:32.400 Like I said, part of that soul sickness, there's lies and mistruths and misinformation all over

02:47:37.920 the place. And we have the unfortunate task of having to wade through it, as it were, and

02:47:46.500 uh, and find that true North, uh, wouldn't spawn. Do you have thoughts on that?

02:47:52.680 Yeah, we, we have people come in and I don't think that people realize that we have people come in.

02:47:58.740 Uh, we have processes that we try to make the best and refine the best way in order to kind of do

02:48:05.120 these things. And then after they come in, we have to deal with them. Um, and not in, not deal with

02:48:13.060 but try to help them figure out these problems that they have or you know everyone's at least

02:48:18.660 coming generally in a deficit that soul sickness um but that soul sickness can a lot of folks will

02:48:25.220 hide it they're on the you know the the biggest viking and i'm the best and they're coming out

02:48:32.180 of the gate you know hot and heavy and they're you know they're doing all this stuff but deep

02:48:36.580 down inside they're still dealing with you know their relationship with divinity the relationship

02:48:41.860 with their ancestors, the relationship they have with the living or even their own past.

02:48:47.360 And they carry that with them. And then oftentimes it crops up again. It shows up after they've taken

02:48:55.120 oaths. And, you know, the front facing part is, oh, yeah, oaths mean the most. And I'm the

02:49:02.380 I'm the most oathiness Viking you could ever meet. And I'll, you know, I'll fight a dragon.

02:49:09.780 but then when it comes to like can you show up in a tie and they're like no can't do it you know

02:49:19.200 it's like that's that's the line do it yeah that's my line that's my break point and um i think it's

02:49:25.540 dumb that you're wearing a tie and um i'm gonna go over here despite the oath i took in front of

02:49:33.240 the gods, you know, it just, it just gets wild. And I know I'm making it super cartoony, but 0.99

02:49:40.220 yeah, I just, I think that one thing that it's worth noting is that if you,

02:49:47.440 if you did not take oath of leadership and you leave because you are misguided,

02:49:52.640 because there are lots of people out there that can misguide you and trick you and not have an

02:49:59.200 open door policy not have an ability to reach out to leadership and just talk to them um which again

02:50:06.960 stems to the biggest problem of this is there is i reached out to leadership and leadership's like

02:50:12.880 what's going on like no one reached out to anyone like i didn't you know um but again it they need

02:50:20.640 that as the narrative no i reached out to them and they said nothing it's like no you didn't

02:50:25.520 reach out to anybody man um but if you you know if you made a mistake the house of true folk

02:50:34.400 assembly has people come back we've had people come back multiple times um with an understanding

02:50:43.040 um that they admit they just admit that i was displaced i was misguided i i was in the wrong

02:50:52.000 frame of mind i was you know a lot of times it's just about owning up to the fact that hey you you

02:50:58.320 made the folly and if you acknowledge it then you won't make it again um and you you know you really

02:51:04.800 see it when you go when it goes into the oath leadership and you have somebody who was used to

02:51:12.560 the way it was before you know california was it there were no other hoffs sharing the limelight

02:51:19.440 and it was the coolest hangout spot for my specific friends and now they're talking about

02:51:25.280 all these people elsewhere um and so you know they they fracture off they leave they they they

02:51:32.960 lose their enthusiasm because they don't see our faith as something bigger it's just their little

02:51:38.880 hangout and um you know then they come back saying you know oh i i messed up and then their friends

02:51:46.400 make a group and they like run to um to join it um because they again they won the folly didn't

02:51:56.160 matter to them and again their mindset is not really taking this seriously um and that's you

02:52:03.600 know that's really really sad that one affected me specifically with govey in california who was once

02:52:10.160 a marine and you know to to me making an oath and placing your honor on the table especially to be

02:52:18.160 a godhar and to lead um your folk um and then for you to just switch you know nilly willy to not be

02:52:28.640 involved with the rest of the gothar and asking questions about what's going on no it was just

02:52:34.000 easier to kind of go there and join the the island of the misfits and you know the twisted spines and 0.75

02:52:41.840 angry and shake your you know your spear at leonitis for not letting you in when in reality

02:52:49.280 you kind of did it to yourself um so i mean it was it's it's really sad and i've seen it happen

02:52:57.760 And when I joined the Outstreet Focus Assembly, I was like, man, it's just going to be us against all that stuff out there, the chaos versus the order.

02:53:07.360 No, a lot of times it's more or less the folly and the soul sickness of our people within.

02:53:12.500 And so I beckon for people out there who are members or are thinking about members or even people who aren't even listening now, but perhaps many, many days from now.

02:53:24.520 if you come into this faith you must grow and you must learn and that is not an easy thing to do

02:53:34.420 and you're going to have ups and you're going to have downs you're also going to get confused or

02:53:40.900 you might get opinionated about certain things you might not agree with certain things I know

02:53:45.860 certainly I didn't agree with everything going on around me I had to learn I had to grow if I had

02:53:52.840 when we started adopting like the 12 holy tides if i had said no in my house of true we did eight

02:53:59.680 that would be ridiculous but instead now we're worshiping the gods more 0.94

02:54:04.600 that's that's good people get so entrenched in their ignorance it's ridiculous or you know oh 0.93

02:54:15.000 you guys don't follow this specific lunar calendar from the anglo-saxons and this year 0.83

02:54:21.760 you guys are just, you know, you're doing it wrong. No, that's not the point of faith and

02:54:29.540 troth to the gods. The faith and troth is one to heal your soul sickness, bring you up to the level

02:54:35.880 of nobility you deserve to be. And then you extend beyond and you have the vehicle, the ship I was

02:54:44.960 talking about for myself, the vehicle for your ability to make your life better, try to gain

02:54:51.140 success, gain stability, and then move forward with your church into the future, into the

02:54:59.140 unknown, talking to other people, you know, marrying and having children and raising them

02:55:04.720 to be also true. That's real faith. That's the real construct of a religion that will survive

02:55:13.220 generations. And people don't want us to do that. There's a lot of people who do not want us to do

02:55:18.800 that. And unfortunately, a lot of those people are us because they just can't

02:55:26.640 get over that. It would require too much of them or it just offends their ego

02:55:32.500 or something of that nature. So, you know, you're going to come into the faith. You're going to

02:55:39.280 learn. You're going to have rough spots. But the key point is if you face calamity in your life,

02:55:45.500 you don't run away from your faith you don't run away from your church you go in because those

02:55:50.220 people want to help you if you have a problem within the church you have all the access and

02:55:54.940 avenues to reach up into the upper levels and talk to them talk to them it could be here um

02:56:03.900 it could be you know again just a phone call or even a you know a meet at at uh uh an event

02:56:11.340 and you sit there face to face and look at this person and if you have a true grievance air it

02:56:18.440 out say it um i think so many people are so afraid of airing out these grievances and also the other

02:56:28.100 part is the gothar are not we don't claim to be i hear so much about like the christian you know 0.61

02:56:35.620 people that come from the christian church is like oh these holier than thou bible thumpers no we're

02:56:40.520 not holier than thou we are taking up the responsibility we have jobs we have families 0.88

02:56:47.600 we have kids we are regular people we're trying to figure it out too and we're utilizing that our

02:56:56.460 faith to help guide us and we want to show you how you can do the same so you know if you have

02:57:04.440 a problem with clergy and you don't air it, you don't speak of it, and you just let it fester,

02:57:13.000 you're just going to end up like, again, that's part of that soul sickness. They can't

02:57:17.720 get it out. They have to keep it in and then they have to fester and start rumors and very just,

02:57:24.500 you know, conniving, non-heroic, non-glorious behavior. And how can you sit there and say

02:57:34.020 you're willing to fight a dragon if you're not willing to you know speak up and air your

02:57:40.540 grievances to people that um are wanting to help and have volunteered to push all of this forward

02:57:49.420 i don't know so yeah if you if you if you can don't think that it's a dead end you can come

02:57:56.880 back it's just it's gonna require you to admit some things and talk to people you know talk to

02:58:03.940 talk to the gothar talk to the else here go the and just say yeah i was yeah i was led astray but

02:58:10.080 then talk openly i never thought it would be so hard to ask from people in a quote unquote viking

02:58:21.920 religion uh yeah um so while we're kind of on that and we'll move on to more positive questions

02:58:30.840 let me make something abundantly clear the also true folk assembly is the church of the icer 0.98

02:58:36.900 uh and take it from me i am a skeptic i'm an absolute part of my language asshole of a skeptic

02:58:45.740 in everything but my faith literally everything i will argue with you about anything y'all have

02:58:52.180 my email give me an opinion i'll argue with you on it right but this the afa the also true folk

02:58:59.920 assembly we're the only ones doing this right and i don't say that to put down anybody else i it's

02:59:06.960 i guess it's a bit of a boast about how we've been blessed by the icer um all father othen

02:59:13.440 he called to our founder stephen mcnallan back in 68 68 ish if i got that wrong i apologize

02:59:23.380 thereabouts. And from there, you know, fast forward to today, we have four Hoffs. We have

02:59:30.880 Sigerheim. We are very well on our way to having a fifth Hoff. When is the last time that this has 1.00

02:59:38.160 happened? Over a thousand years ago? Surely hasn't happened since. It's not happening since.

02:59:44.360 I, we're the only ones. Our, our folk need, need heroes, you know, and there's no one else but us

02:59:53.240 really at the end of the day. And when I first got into the AFA, I did the, um, you know, the

03:00:00.180 nice guy, let's all be friends thing. And I, at first I was very much of the opinion that, you

03:00:06.760 know, the Austro Folk Assembly and the Odenic Rite and the Austro Alliance and the Troth and

03:00:12.760 And all this should cooperate and come together under one big tent and just make it work. 0.99

03:00:18.320 And nothing against those groups except the gay ones. 0.89

03:00:21.840 But the AFA, we're the tent. 0.94

03:00:28.180 It's us.

03:00:29.720 Full stop.

03:00:33.960 Next question.

03:00:35.860 Or previous questions that I skipped over.

03:00:37.700 rather uh sierra asks when was your aha moment that the gods were real um i'll tell mine first

03:00:48.860 i'm sure spawns is like way cooler uh save the more articulate for last at least um mine was

03:00:58.240 ostara 2016 so star in the south we had one hop at that time and ostara uh always took place in

03:01:06.380 my home state of Georgia, maybe an hour and a half from where I live now. I was in a little

03:01:10.860 4-H camp in Hampton, Georgia. I was exactly one month from shipping off to Fort Benning for

03:01:18.860 one station unit training in, you know, boot camp and an infantry school.

03:01:25.500 uh and so it was a combination of two two rituals the first was Friday night um at the time I was

03:01:37.380 here at Gauthier McNallan did uh his his Votan bloat to Odin and I absolutely felt something

03:01:46.260 then but I had as I mentioned I'm a skeptic and everything else I had managed to convince myself

03:01:51.620 that it was just that frenzy of all of us yelling Botan, Mitt Oons, Germani, Germani, all of that,

03:01:57.760 that made me feel that something was there, right?

03:02:01.580 I know now that's not the case, of course.

03:02:03.900 It certainly does add a really neat layer to it, but that wasn't the truth of it.

03:02:08.820 And then the next day of the event, Saturday, Goethe at the time, Flavel, did his Ostara bloat,

03:02:14.980 and uh i felt a very similar i guess is the best word a very similar feeling uh to

03:02:28.660 um the ulceragothis

03:02:33.860 uh ulceragothi mcnallan's

03:02:37.300 odin bloat but this felt you know different it's hard to explain but this was

03:02:44.980 that presence of the divine was still there and it was like i felt the warmth of spring

03:02:52.440 if that makes sense and at that point i thought okay well twice in a row and this bloat doesn't

03:02:59.800 have yelling about you know botan mitten german and german and this was a much more um low-key

03:03:06.820 to use the kids verbiage bloat and i still felt that feeling of connection and so at that point

03:03:13.300 I was like, okay, well, I'm fully sold.

03:03:16.800 How do I make my entire life about this right now?

03:03:19.860 So that was my moment.

03:03:22.920 What about you, Witten Spahn?

03:03:30.420 You're muted.

03:03:35.920 Sorry, I was too, because I'm coming straight from work.

03:03:41.480 so i'm oftentimes like eating a little bit of dinner while we're doing this um

03:03:47.000 and i just don't want it to be noisy uh i just love how you said i want it to be everything

03:03:52.200 like in my life right now i um i already spoke about like how i was led in these directions um

03:04:05.560 praying to Thor and then Thorshoff showing up or going to the Auschwitz Folk Assembly

03:04:11.220 after a long hiatus of being involved in any sort of religious things outside of myself

03:04:18.400 and instantly getting that feeling that everything was changing.

03:04:24.880 But, you know, I've been Auschwitz since 1994.

03:04:28.980 And I think my aha moment happened in 1997.

03:04:33.380 seven and it was you know so there this isn't like an instantaneous thing it it was over time but

03:04:40.900 i was young and i was camping out um in a copse of like a large copse of woods actually

03:04:49.380 i had found a tree along this horse trail that was covered in the knots on the tree looked like eyes

03:04:56.340 so i called it like the tree of eyes and i i i made a campsite out there and um i stayed out

03:05:03.140 there for two and a half days um and with like very little food just some water and i you know

03:05:12.900 i stayed out there and i made it this conviction that i was gonna i don't know i actually don't

03:05:17.780 even know what i was thinking like that i was gonna go out there and i was gonna come back with

03:05:23.380 something and i was just so damn driven to do it that i went out there and did it even though i

03:05:30.660 was still i was under 18. um i was in high school and i i just kind of disappeared um i remember

03:05:38.820 kind of figuring out how to cover it with my my mother so that she wouldn't suspect um you know

03:05:46.660 but i wasn't like sneaking out to a party or hanging out with friends over the weekend i was

03:05:51.060 going to like sit in the woods and um you know commune um and i had a very strange

03:06:03.460 weird moment um one that was almost audible the other that was very visual um the most almost

03:06:14.980 audible was um that during this kind of long praying chanting by myself near the fire near

03:06:24.100 this tree of eyes how i could be better devoted to lord oh then how could i gain access into val

03:06:32.580 how could i be glorious and you know find my place in that heavenly realm with the other heroes

03:06:41.540 um not considering you know a future of a life with a with a wife and kids or whatever i was

03:06:48.260 young and i was just i wanted you know to be in glory and um and i kept praying to lord ovin

03:06:58.820 and all of a sudden i stopped and it's like i could hear it almost like you would hear the

03:07:07.780 ringing in your ear or uh kind of swooshing of blood rushing from your heart into your head

03:07:15.460 no one else can hear it but it's there and it's audible and i i hear you cannot love a forest for

03:07:25.060 one tree and it struck me like a smack like it wasn't what i was expecting or what i wanted

03:07:34.820 really it wasn't what i wanted and um i didn't know what to do with that what am i supposed to

03:07:41.060 do with that what does that mean and it so the rest of the time was in you know in contemplation

03:07:46.820 of this and um i suddenly realized that you know i cannot have a relationship with the ice here

03:07:54.340 if i'm solely worshiping lord odin and i'm so focused and concerned on the the you know the

03:08:02.900 mechanisms of becoming the einherjar and you know just in my mind comedically i think of some sort

03:08:10.900 of like black metal like i'm going to be in that no um it suddenly hit me with with reality and

03:08:18.500 the reality was is that there's so much more to this than your tiny little keyhole focus is and

03:08:27.860 you need to stop you need to stop and you need to start going bigger and that's when i understood and

03:08:36.180 and the other thing was the next night um nothing happened like audibly but in the late late night

03:08:44.900 um and tiny little fire and bear in mind i'm near a horse trail um but there somebody comes riding

03:08:52.900 on a horse very slowly like walking not riding but walking and i could clearly tell with the

03:09:00.260 backdrop of the through the trees there was a field so but it was probably two in the morning um

03:09:10.900 and uh there was a woman riding on the horse and she stopped and she looked over at me

03:09:18.740 and I just stood there and I didn't know if I was going to get in trouble. I didn't know if

03:09:25.540 or what have you, or if this was a property owner or anything. I didn't know what to make of this.

03:09:31.980 And just as slowly as she turned towards me, she turned forward and then slowly walked the horse

03:09:40.080 into the dark and i just stood there in silence for about 30 minutes not knowing

03:09:48.020 if i should leave because this person's going to call the cops on me or what but something

03:09:53.740 deep down inside knew that wasn't that wasn't um like just a person there was something truly there

03:10:04.720 And I realized that I had gone out, I had made these convictions, I was so determined, and that not only were the gods real, but that I was receiving information that was against my own kind of like ego, and what I wanted, I was receiving kind of outside information, saying, No, you're seeing this, and you need to see this.

03:10:29.860 And there's not only just one tree, but I am of, you know, I am, I am the deeds.

03:10:35.480 My deeds are to save the whole, not just to save myself.

03:10:39.520 My eye is given, you know, my synthesization to Yggdrasil is not for me alone, but for my whole, which is the rest of the gods.

03:10:52.140 It like gobsmacked me.

03:10:54.520 um and then the the visage of the woman was and i again i don't know what to make of that and i will

03:11:01.100 caveat that it was near a horse trail but it was very late in the night early morning and um i mean

03:11:10.240 i had been making some noise with drum and i had a fire going but there was nobody nearby uh that

03:11:20.140 the house that owned these woods were easily two to three miles away so um that was my moment

03:11:31.580 my real like well i'm i'm now into something that is real and then every time thereafter i've been

03:11:40.860 just the signs and painting the mural and you know something claw or not clawing but like

03:11:47.420 whisking at the door and then going out and seeing the storm kind of flow in and go into the off

03:11:54.060 and it's just there's so many little things that i could pick at but that one was the that's the one

03:12:01.500 that's the one

03:12:04.940 uh next

03:12:09.020 sierra asks where do you envision the house true folk assembly in 10 years

03:12:12.540 years and 20 years uh 10 more hoffs and 20 more hoffs um no but more hoffs and then twice as many

03:12:21.820 more hoffs realistically uh i think you know with the way things are going just in the socio-political

03:12:30.340 climate we find ourselves in here in the west more and more people are going to come home to

03:12:34.400 alsatru and real folkish alsatru when they find folkish alsatru they're going to find the afa and

03:12:40.240 And they're going to find that all the stuff I said five minutes ago about, you know, the AFA being the Church of the Aesir, they're going to find that and they're going to join us.

03:12:49.380 And just growth from there, I think, well, certainly we will have released more documents like the Trulamel, more, you know, we'll have our own written works published.

03:13:06.440 The Alstrue Academy will already be finished.

03:13:09.100 I'm sure we'll keep tweaking it as the years go by just to keep up with, you know, various things.

03:13:15.060 But that'll be done realistically.

03:13:18.100 That'll be done in a couple of years.

03:13:19.920 But I can't really give a different answer for 10 and 20.

03:13:25.460 So I'm just kind of throwing what I have at you.

03:13:28.360 But Finraith asked just to add on to that.

03:13:30.740 Where do you see the AFA by the end of the century?

03:13:32.720 so that kind of oh by the end of the century i'd like to see alsatru monasteries you know

03:13:41.840 or we have i always uh i always say i went through the gothar program at thor's off when i say that

03:13:48.080 to people i i think it conjures up this idea of me getting the honor of just sitting in

03:13:53.520 thor's bay speaking to him 24 7 and that would be awesome but realistically it was

03:13:59.040 my wife and I driving seven hours

03:14:01.900 northeast once a month

03:14:03.900 to go hang out with Svon

03:14:05.940 and

03:14:06.880 Daniel and everything.

03:14:10.940 You know, so

03:14:11.540 I think it'll be

03:14:13.520 everything will be a bit more streamlined

03:14:16.080 if that makes sense. Not like a gay 1.00

03:14:17.860 modern way, but in a 1.00

03:14:18.980 normal, realistic way

03:14:22.080 like the Gothar program

03:14:24.040 is already so much better than when

03:14:25.900 I went through it. I'm really jealous of the current

03:14:27.800 students and all the resources they have um it everything's always getting better for the afa just

03:14:37.160 step by step and the steps are getting bigger each time and uh i'm frankly i'm not creative

03:14:45.240 enough to come up with like a really profound answer on where we'll be other than closer to

03:14:50.680 the icer we'll have more more folk connected to the icer uh we'll have more hofs where more people

03:14:57.160 can connect to the ice here we'll have more gothar more folk builders more more countries that have

03:15:04.360 afa members uh in 20 years i'm hoping we'll have hops in more countries at least in sweden by that

03:15:11.720 point i would think hopefully my ancestral homeland of england as well um by the end of next century

03:15:20.640 Geez, I'm hoping we'll have a hop on Mars.

03:15:24.300 Maybe maybe a second tears off just because, you know, Mars and tear.

03:15:31.780 You know, what do you think?

03:15:33.560 Wouldn't spawn?

03:15:35.500 Sorry, that was awesome.

03:15:38.400 Ten years.

03:15:39.600 I would like to see a tripling in membership.

03:15:43.680 Again, I think the biggest thing that holds us back is people don't know about us and our folk that are in don't really want to.

03:15:49.700 tell other folks about it because they don't want to seem like they're proselytizing like

03:15:54.420 Christianity. But, um, so, you know, in 10 years, I would like to see us at least triple our

03:16:00.400 membership. Um, and, uh, you know, I would like to see the establishment of at least the 12

03:16:09.980 Hoffs, but, you know, I think just with the nature of money and logistics and what have you,

03:16:16.600 you know, seven of the 12, but that's in 10. In 20, I would love to see the 12 Hoffs to the

03:16:29.240 Aus of our faith established, and at least the two Hoffs to the Aus Senior, Frigg, and Freyja.

03:16:38.180 um and then after that you know there might be this just a bigger movement towards

03:16:45.600 having hoffs just of the aus of trafolk assembly not not dedicated to one particular

03:16:54.740 house or our senior but to all the gods and i think that kind of leads me up to the century

03:17:02.600 is, you know, I would like to see us have a Hoth in other countries, but at least one in every

03:17:10.380 state. You know, the closer we are to people, the better it is. But again, we need, it all hinges on

03:17:18.140 us telling more people and getting them to understand they have a soul sickness and they

03:17:23.580 need to come home and they need to heal it. And, you know, if we do that, then everything else I'm

03:17:30.720 talking about will fall into place. And it, you know, hinges on us not being afraid to talk about

03:17:37.140 our faith, not being afraid to lead by example. But at the turn of the, of a century, I would love

03:17:44.380 to see the Auschwitz Folk Assembly perhaps having its own college, maybe even having its own,

03:17:52.780 um, you know, ethical and, um, you know, uh, formulated maybe like in, in health insurance

03:18:04.760 for their folk. You know, we have all these people, we have all these Hoffs, we provide

03:18:10.500 services for our folk that are unique and that they can trust that we're being ethical versus

03:18:16.780 having to, you know, our people are just getting thrown to the wolves and things or a bank,

03:18:21.820 You know, having a like a bank and a lending service for our folk that doesn't extort them when they borrow money and really does seek to help them out or at least like maybe an online college.

03:18:41.800 or and we can focus on not just the lower education for our children but higher education

03:18:47.800 and then for the lower education you know perhaps there is um like physical schools but you know

03:18:55.720 with with um you know a select few people from the communities willing to work and you know maybe

03:19:04.600 receive pay for teaching the children so that way we can keep our our folk and our people and our

03:19:13.480 faith going thriving and surviving within itself i think other religions um do this and we could do

03:19:23.400 it too um a capital for sure but that the capital is um awe-inspiring um and

03:19:35.560 i guess uh i don't know that's not as cool as like hoffs on mars but that's about it

03:19:43.080 that's what i got right now um yeah while we're talking about where we'll see the afa in the next

03:19:51.160 10 to 20 years the start to getting all those things is for all of you listening to this to

03:19:57.640 come out to things go to your local hof or if your local hof isn't so local if you want to go to 0.62

03:20:03.780 something go to your local folk builders moot go to hell if you want go to the farthest possible

03:20:11.280 hof i've done that it's pretty fun a little costly but you can make it happen it so uh as 0.83

03:20:19.960 written spawn coined and it's now an afa wide thing words are wind deeds are iron uh something

03:20:26.340 we say in the afa a lot too is hail the doers you know hail those who do yeah you know right

03:20:32.700 it's called right action right not right speech although that is a part i guess but

03:20:38.620 we need to actually get out and do things for our folk and for the isere i can't imagine the

03:20:47.740 all father is impressed by the types that sit around pontificating on if freya frigga uh ostara

03:20:55.540 and sky they're all the same goddess they're not by the way uh well they're not as in the

03:21:00.600 ic are not impressed by that and those are not all the same goddess but yeah uh next question

03:21:09.320 finwraith good to see you finwraith he asks did you guys ever hear stories of the gods when you

03:21:18.160 were growing up i did not because uh my dad's side of the family is southern baptist and my

03:21:23.620 mom's side is mormon so just a resounding no unfortunately

03:21:28.660 um i i definitely um i definitely did i remember distinctly that we had an illustrated bible

03:21:45.460 and it was old testament new testament and my mother saw the part i think where like

03:21:51.700 some daughters were sleeping with their dad and once she was blown away that this was in like the

03:21:56.820 kids like or i guess pre-teen book or whatever but she was like oh yeah let's not yeah we're

03:22:05.300 not gonna that's that was oddly emphasized and then she you know encouraged me to um

03:22:13.860 look into other stories of other peoples but she always presented gave to me books and spoke of and

03:22:22.500 talked of the gods because they do that still in iceland today that's part of like growing up and

03:22:28.820 in the school you know system and it's it's just around um in the names of places so um

03:22:37.940 yeah i definitely grew up with uh the stories kind of being told to me and it it was again i

03:22:44.180 just considered them kind of whatever it's lame it's you know it just is what it is and then

03:22:50.580 something happened right around 12 13 with the runes the runes were the thing that ignited it all

03:22:58.580 um to make me realize wow this is like a whole religion and this is like a whole complex system

03:23:04.020 and um yeah it's just that that's what that's what took it off but yeah aesop's fables the greek

03:23:12.980 stories uh the celtic stories the slavic stories i heard them all and and read a lot of them

03:23:19.940 and i think that's what really helps me now finding those connection points um but the the

03:23:27.060 aidas and the local stuff about like trolls i still i should bring that book down i have a book

03:23:33.140 from iceland about trolls like kidnapping people um and and grilla and the and the yule lads and

03:23:41.620 stuff it's it was very much a part of my growing up yeah i guess i i didn't think of the uh

03:23:49.300 the greek pantheon when speaking of the gods but i guess if you count that yes i did hear about the

03:23:54.920 greek gods specifically a lot growing up i was very close to becoming a hellenist actually when

03:24:01.020 i was 16 or so and then i i decided to stick with my cool guy edgy atheism instead but i you know i

03:24:08.860 like like we said the nornier wove it that way i suppose i'm not greek i'm germanic mostly so that

03:24:16.100 is what it is uh yeah but being exposed to the arian gods uh of yeah that's you know i think

03:24:27.020 that counts it's yeah yeah you found your home where your blood resides but your exposure to

03:24:33.700 them is you know and heroism and the glory of them comes and it just had a different feel than

03:24:41.920 going to church and you know eating the body and drinking the blood and um all of that stuff

03:24:50.200 yeah right even yeah even like the video games i played growing up like a freaking skyrim you know

03:24:59.060 the the the nine divines and that are like clearly based on the icr to an extent so even that as 0.99

03:25:05.580 as a kid i was like man that sure would be cooler than you know stupid lame christianity 0.96

03:25:11.640 part of my language but that's probably how i said it in my head at the age of 12 or whenever 0.95

03:25:16.160 and i don't think it should be confused that this is some sort of reenactment of the things that we

03:25:22.060 think are cool it's just that these things existed before christianity and we felt a disconnect from

03:25:29.540 it that was clear and tangible and we could look around and see kind of the cut of the cloth of

03:25:36.460 these people around us and we didn't buy into the whole you know i'm gonna break your leg and give

03:25:42.080 you a crutch to sell you out of damnation and then when we found the tangible that was mimicked in

03:25:51.080 the fantasy we're like holy crap this is real this is like a real thing um i i yeah i just i i agree

03:25:58.960 with your sentiment i think that when people do read like even stuff that's not historical like

03:26:04.780 lord of the rings there's something deeply intrinsic in our blood that calls us to remember

03:26:10.000 a time that these fantasies are replicating they're replicating a feeling because it's in

03:26:20.340 the author's blood it's just in our people and uh a lot i've heard christians say oh you know

03:26:27.660 you're you're larping your religion from a video game or what have you and it's like no that's

03:26:34.300 not the case at all um you know they uh again you know you you there's video games or media

03:26:44.380 or comic books or whatever or stories that also utilize christian slack well really judaic

03:26:53.500 frameworks and um you know the the the kids reading that you know i don't know i mean

03:27:00.620 nobody would poo-poo at them if that led them towards a path towards you know connecting into 1.00

03:27:06.660 that faith um right you know suddenly they're just really down with judaic like

03:27:12.520 you know spirits and beings or whatever but the difference is is that the mediums that we

03:27:19.520 saw were clearly mimicking the faith of our ancestors before conversion this is what they

03:27:29.140 were before other people came in so i don't know that that kind of gets me a lot of times in

03:27:35.880 like online stuff so oh yeah uh next question uh finraith asks do you have any ideas on how

03:27:46.780 you think the afa could grow into a much larger religion i guess we kind of said it and i say it

03:27:52.340 a lot so much so that a lot of the other afa leaders are probably sick of hearing me say it

03:27:57.040 But, yeah, wear your hammer proudly as long as it's not like a work hazard or something, you know, be openly also true.

03:28:08.080 Treat it like it's normal because it is, you know, and this isn't I'm not meaning for this to turn into like the Abrahamic hate page or something. 0.79

03:28:17.820 But of its day, in its day, Abrahamism spreading past just Jewish people, that was the, like, leftism of its day. 0.67

03:28:29.460 It was spread by slaves and women and then later, you know, the oligarchs figured they could use it to link each other together for trade and whatnot. 0.53

03:28:40.860 that was the christianity specifically was the um you know was the what don't misgender me of

03:28:51.520 of 2000 it and you know it's just like many of our folk are being duped by

03:28:58.840 that goofiness now unfortunately many many more of our folk were duped by the the previous

03:29:05.980 silliness uh yeah tearing down statues and then decreeing that uh paganism is evil because uh

03:29:15.660 you don't agree that we're all equal under god like we're like yeah that has a similar mode

03:29:22.900 right or like you know a guy chops down a tree dedicated to thor and he's like aha the tree

03:29:31.440 fell down that means thor isn't real well churches get lit on fire is your god not real

03:29:36.400 right you know uh anyway uh all this to say yeah be proudly also true it is normal and uh

03:29:48.240 even if it weren't we were gonna make it normal it but it is it's our natural faith that's why

03:29:54.560 it feels so natural when you attend these things that's why it feels like you know everything's

03:29:59.600 coming together that kind of clicking that aha moment we've been discussing is it's it is just

03:30:06.960 real it it it's for us for our folk our ancestors for tens of thousands of years at least practiced

03:30:15.360 it in some form or fashion christianity has only plagued us for uh if we're talking northern europe

03:30:21.680 you know a thousand fifteen hundred maybe sixteen hundred years at at max

03:30:28.720 but and one thing that you're saying very very key what um go the east is saying is that you

03:30:37.040 should wear it proudly because you're not doing anything wrong what that also means is don't be

03:30:41.920 don't wear your hammer to be an edgelord don't wear your hammer to be outside of the norm no

03:30:52.000 wear your hammer because you have the moral obligation to show people that and and the moral

03:31:01.360 like uh correctness to say no our gods are real we have been separated from them

03:31:10.480 and we deserve to be back with them that's not edgelordiness like ah you know i'm doing this

03:31:19.600 because it's cool no you have the moral right to say that this hammer is a symbol of our correction

03:31:27.440 and are moving away from you know pseudo-judaism um and you know it would be just as easily said

03:31:35.840 if it was Islam. In a lot of circles nowadays, that's easily understood by people, but they 0.96

03:31:43.060 don't understand that Islam is just the new Middle Eastern invading religion in a lot of

03:31:49.280 our countries. Christianity was the first. And so now it's our moral correctness to bring 1.00

03:31:55.300 ourselves back. You're not only not doing anything wrong, you're doing right. You have the right to

03:32:02.040 that and that doesn't make you an edgelord that makes you a torch bearer so you know if they're

03:32:08.680 doing this to to be edgy and wear their black paint and shoulder pelts and have the mohawk ponytails

03:32:16.920 they might need to recalibrate where they're going with this and i think a lot of those people do end

03:32:24.360 up failing out um and not pressing this forward and the gods are watching us do this um you know

03:32:34.040 again we have the we have the the obligation and the correctness to say we need to bring

03:32:39.720 our people home it's been long enough another question from ruin arcadia i believe this person

03:32:50.920 was on the last episode i did as well i'm glad they've returned uh i joined recently i heard

03:32:56.360 about the afa a while ago and i've been watching vns for a while i took a break for a while because

03:33:01.400 i had talked to some swedish guy online who accused me of being an american culture vulture

03:33:06.840 i regret letting him influence my journey here do you guys come across many icer gatekeepers

03:33:12.840 yeah that's a really good question uh and there's a couple points to it so this thing about like oh

03:33:20.200 white americans are stealing scandinavian nordic culture well uh white americans are largely

03:33:28.760 anglo-saxon uh with some like viking admixture and some celtic admixture and then celts and 0.90

03:33:35.720 anglo-saxons aren't that different really at all it's mainly linguistic stuff um anglo-saxons just

03:33:44.280 for example where um they're classified now as southern scandinavians because they are

03:33:50.040 literally just scandinavians that left denmark and moved into northern germany instead um

03:33:57.800 and then of course germans are just scandinavians who moved into germany instead and it goes on and

03:34:03.960 on so just from a literal factual standpoint no you know scandinavian culture is your culture

03:34:11.240 It may be a different flavor of it if you're Celtic or if you're, you know, Slavic or whatever, but it's yours.

03:34:17.540 It's your birthright.

03:34:20.060 The other thing, let me look back at the questions.

03:34:22.220 I had another thing there.

03:34:23.240 Do you guys come across any Icy or Gatekeepers?

03:34:26.680 Not in any meaningful ways.

03:34:29.220 Occasionally we'll get a retweet on Twitter of one of Svan's kinsmen in Iceland maybe that is like,

03:34:37.740 these guys aren't even Nordic so they're not practicing real Alcatru and it's like well

03:34:42.220 you know first again most of us are actually Nordic just not from Scandinavia recently

03:34:50.500 and again Alcatru is for all white people the AFA is Pan-Aryan because we are all one people

03:34:58.040 you can prove it easily by just looking at us first of all uh connecting the languages uh there's

03:35:05.380 all kinds of fascinating research you can do that very quickly and very easily

03:35:10.740 uh shows that we're just one people it it really is that simple it's not a very grand answer but

03:35:17.780 no else true is for you if you say you recently joined so you're a white person it's yours it's

03:35:24.020 for you it's ours as when erickson famously said it is our birthright uh what do you think about

03:35:30.180 all that wouldn't spawn well and i you know i grew up here in the states i came here when i

03:35:35.700 was six but i still have family in scandinavia in iceland um and i do understand personally where

03:35:43.860 this kind of mindset is coming from and what you're dealing with um again you know if it's like

03:35:53.380 in their mind it's you know we don't worship the gods but if you aren't swedish you can't worship

03:36:00.740 the gods i'm not gonna do it i mean so really nobody's getting the gods aren't being honored

03:36:07.300 in any way shape or form but you can't do it because you ain't swedish norwegian scandinavian

03:36:13.300 etc whenever i see that online too i always go uh cool where do the days tuesday wednesday and

03:36:21.620 thursday come from because that immediately shows that one our faith was pan-european

03:36:28.180 it was all in the northern part and then in the southern part when we you know migrated conquered

03:36:35.140 fought and and etc um so they can't really say that you know you have to be scandinavian

03:36:41.540 to be also true that's ridiculous um and it shows in from the runes to the names of the

03:36:51.940 days to holy tides to specific places in england etc and then once it crosses the the ocean oh man 0.73

03:37:02.700 americans can't do any of that um and it's it's so strange to me because by their logic

03:37:11.120 anyone can move to their country and be that nationality because that's the only thing they

03:37:17.600 have left there if you can't be descended by uh ethnicity or blood from a people then what

03:37:25.620 what is the other thing is that you just have to be born there in order to be there

03:37:30.760 you know somebody could come from anywhere else in the world and get born in sweden and now they're

03:37:35.560 Swedish um so you know they don't it really is just trying to stop or being um corrosive against

03:37:47.680 the growth of it the other thing that's really strange is um the um idea that if so if also true

03:37:57.240 is not uniquely Scandinavian but that the Scandinavians were the last to to practice it

03:38:02.840 it was across europe um the the idea of americans who are of european descent honoring this faith

03:38:13.400 um you know are they worried about the nomenclature is it the fact that we use the icelandic or old

03:38:18.840 norse language and not modern english or some hybrid or what have you and the answer to that

03:38:27.720 is that the differences are so minuscule between Odin and Woden that the call was to simply

03:38:36.120 utilize the last literature written about the gods. We should use that and extend forward.

03:38:42.960 So we're not vulturing, you know, Old Norse or Nordic culture. And again,

03:38:48.900 is it culture if they're not doing it? They're ex-towningly not doing anything

03:38:57.100 and they're like but you can't take the stuff i'm not doing there's it's wild to me like you can't

03:39:07.180 you can't do all this stuff because you're not me are you guys doing it well no because that's just

03:39:16.380 silly you know we believe in science and uh you know it's it's just it blows my mind um that

03:39:25.820 people can can think and say and do that um i don't know i think that's that that is very haughty 0.95

03:39:34.120 and ridiculous outside of uh the nordic kind of um example too that's another thing is like i was

03:39:42.180 called out online you're not icelandic you're just pretending to be icelandic and then of course he

03:39:46.820 checked the database and realized yes i am icelandic but that isn't like i get a pass 0.99

03:39:54.640 it's it that was a dumb argument to begin with and they're you know the the idiot for pulling 0.99

03:40:01.820 it out and trying to go that route um but outside of that any other groups trying to 0.99

03:40:07.980 i mean yes i think mostly we have people who we spoke about earlier they they have problems here

03:40:14.540 or they want to tear it all down to year one i'm gonna do a better job i'm gonna be the king of

03:40:20.560 new house of true and they you know they leave the afa and then they make these kind of splinter

03:40:25.620 groups i've seen so many of them come and go it's it's almost it's almost comical now it's still sad

03:40:33.760 but it's a little comical now to see these people break off and say they're gonna do this and do

03:40:40.000 that and then they just disperse into nothing um when they could be sticking true and holding on

03:40:49.320 to the pathway and processing things forward and building their life and being a better person but

03:40:55.360 they just can't do that so those people will gatekeep as well they'll they'll talk a lot 0.57

03:41:01.720 of crap about alsatru or the astro focus assembly um and again when you start to see that venom 0.93

03:41:08.580 consider the mouth it's coming out of consider the fangs attached to it so yeah um yeah well said 0.99

03:41:17.960 um uh that's pretty much it you know this is our birthright don't let people tell you it's not 0.73

03:41:27.320 uh if you're an afa member it means you passed our very simple requirements of being white and 0.50

03:41:35.920 heterosexual so then congratulations you get to be ousted true it really is that simple sorry you 0.87

03:41:42.560 know um i get i i do kind of understand in a way where scandinavians are coming from like in sweden 1.00

03:41:51.480 you know there's all these cool barrows where you know these ancient warrior kings are buried they

03:41:57.080 have well what's left of uh upsala it you know it's very tempting to be in a land with all these

03:42:04.520 things and i'm i think i'm just rehashing something the ulcerogothi said but i'm gonna

03:42:08.200 keep talking anyway uh you know it's real easy to be in that land of all these mystical things

03:42:14.240 all these fairly recent parts of our house true history specifically and to feel okay i'm good i

03:42:20.520 don't need to build hoffs i don't need to reforge my faith it's it's all right here it's in the land

03:42:27.420 i don't need to worry about it well that's that's silly i see you deserve better than that our folk

03:42:32.560 deserve better than that. Your descendants deserve better than that. And your ancestors

03:42:37.440 deserve to see you accomplish more than that. Um, that's, that's it for questions. It looks like,

03:42:48.720 uh, you have any kind of closing remarks, uh, witness Vaughn?

03:42:53.300 Yeah, I, I think it's really important that we understand that the conditioning that we have

03:42:59.820 received growing up from these stories or from media is that we see the gods as kind of perhaps

03:43:07.900 cartoonish representations of a slice of a singular moment in Scandinavia during a very

03:43:14.940 bombastic and, you know, maelstromed time of politics and war. But we have a tendency to

03:43:25.000 forget that the gods have been with our people long before that. They have been with us since

03:43:29.680 we have left the very shores that Heimdall came to us. These stories have been told amongst us

03:43:37.580 from all the way back to Kvasir, who walked amongst us. This is bigger and, again, more

03:43:46.720 more gravity than i think a lot of people think you're not larping you are you're not an edgelord

03:43:55.120 you have the moral right and obligation to carry the hammer forward and to tell people that they

03:44:01.140 need to come home you know you're not doing it to be cool you're doing it to get to heal these

03:44:07.880 people and to make them come back and get the strength and the heroism that they deserve

03:44:12.240 It's been taken from the generation to generation after generation.

03:44:16.940 Just like when I talked about like the Protestantism's, you know, connection towards, you know, dropping wealth and not having.

03:44:25.480 I mean, there is so much of our life and our worldview that has inexorably changed.

03:44:32.240 And it is our duty to tell people that it is OK to return home, that the Ponzi scheme has been sold to them.

03:44:45.140 And now it's time to stop. And, you know, people laugh and say, you know, you don't have you know, your gods are like written in Marvel or you try to demean the gods and don't let them.

03:44:56.840 the gods are real the gods are strong the gods are far more powerful than the stories even that

03:45:03.480 we're talking about on these shows like hints to they're gods and they have they they work

03:45:10.280 they move things in our path they move things out of our path they watch us through the well of urd

03:45:18.440 this is something far greater than simply just running through those motions or pretending to

03:45:26.280 be of something and the moment you realize that all of the deceptive framework of uh pseudo that

03:45:34.920 pseudo reality that's been placed by by these organizations that want you you know these these

03:45:43.960 foreign alien thought pathways once those are removed and you realize they don't have that power

03:45:51.080 that's when you can open up and realize the gods are intrinsic in our life they have been

03:45:58.860 for generations and generations they didn't need us to proclaim from the mountaintops

03:46:05.420 their names they've all they never left but now i think it's incumbent upon us

03:46:12.080 to start realizing that they deserve better and um so yeah stop stop making it

03:46:20.720 less stop making it so either obscure atheism or you just can't quite conceive how the gods could

03:46:29.640 be real because you know how could the omnipresent nameless thing um that christianity has turned

03:46:37.940 divinity into, even though in their book it's very, very clear what Yahweh is. Now it's just

03:46:46.680 so obscure that it's leaving people confused. No, you have their names. We have our way to

03:46:53.260 identify them. We can historically look at that, but that's all well and good. At the end of the

03:46:58.140 day, they're there and they are interacting with our lives. They have power and they have presence

03:47:06.520 And they deserve that we have this gift cycle. And then they can, once you open up that avenue to speak to them, just like with our ancestors, that's the part that starts it.

03:47:19.560 You have to open up in order for this to start. If you never do that again, you're never going to see the true power that the gods have in the world.

03:47:36.520 and in our lives and you'll never understand you'll always be asking oh you know why is god

03:47:41.720 doing this to me etc etc when you suddenly come home and realize that you know the gods and us

03:47:49.240 and all the events in the world are woven in this intricate pattern going forward and you're not

03:47:55.960 alone and you have folk it unites the gods you and the ancestors all woven together

03:48:03.800 all right i'm sorry yeah not this good way to end it pretty hard um one last thing before we go i

03:48:15.200 just want to plug charming the plow one last time it is two weeks and a day now away um february

03:48:24.580 21st or the 23rd uh be meals and rituals uh the mcnallans will be there if you ever wanted to meet

03:48:33.360 uh our first ulcerer gothi and his lovely wife wife githya mcnallan they will be there

03:48:38.720 uh the flavels will be there i will be there the ericsons i think will be there the list goes on

03:48:46.020 it's going to be a great time please show up you'll have an awesome time it'll leave you feeling

03:48:53.080 spiritually charged until old star which is exactly a month later at thorataw

03:48:57.460 so you can get those tickets at runestone.org slash store if you are on mewe the links are

03:49:06.160 around if you can't find them on mewe you can email any of us find us wherever and we'll get

03:49:12.340 you the links uh with all that being said i have to be up in five hours i'm gonna get some sleep

03:49:18.820 hail the icer hail the folk hail the oustrew folk assembly and never forget victory never sleeps

03:49:26.820 Good night.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - February 06, 2025

2⧸5⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 135 - Helgakviða Hjörvarðssonar

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