Asatru Folk Assembly - 3⧸13⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 88 - Hávamál, Part 6

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00:03:30.000 hi everyone good evening um we are continuing on with the sixth episode of the halva maul

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00:04:45.980 and uh it's nearing time folks this is uh we're we're down to the wire ostras here i'm sure some

00:04:56.540 of you may have noticed depending on where you live the rabbits are out the uh dandelions are

00:05:02.320 sprouting the bumblebees are moving um morning doves are showing up uh and and the the dawn is

00:05:10.140 all the more beautiful, and so Ostara is here. She is flinging open the gates of Dellinger's

00:05:17.080 Hall, and soon the warmth of heaven will wash over and begin the season of the summer tidying.

00:05:26.480 If you're talking about the two tidying old style of which there was summer and winter,

00:05:31.760 and this is it this is the the the rise towards mid-summer um so i'm pretty excited and you know

00:05:41.220 we're holding the national event at thorsoff which is my hof my my uh home base if you will

00:05:48.900 and um i'm very very excited it's a national event uh the entire witten's gonna be there

00:05:54.820 uh lots of folks lots of kids remember this is also about you know um getting the kids

00:06:02.980 out there and having fun eggs um and relay races and decorations and all of all of that

00:06:11.660 three-day event um starting on the 22nd and going to the 24th um so we'll have kind of like you know

00:06:21.320 people coming in on Friday at night. Sometimes they come in and we'll be holding our first

00:06:27.680 opening ceremonies and bloats and then lots of just being able to socialize with your folk.

00:06:40.060 And then Saturday is the big day. So if you can't make it for Friday or Sunday,

00:06:44.540 if you can though, try to make it down for the Saturday. And that's where the bulk of most of

00:06:49.660 our event will be taking place. We'll, of course, be holding an Osterobloat. We'll most likely be

00:06:56.520 holding an Osterobloat at dawn and during the day. And just going to be a great time. Lots of

00:07:04.060 people, lots of, you know, classes, knowledge, phenomenal auction, oftentimes with really,

00:07:15.980 really interesting items that, uh, are hard to find or made by artisans in the area or folks

00:07:23.220 that are, uh, at least, you know, not in the area, but highly skilled and willing to, to dedicate

00:07:29.020 hours and hours of time, making sure that they have, you know, quality products from, uh, wooden

00:07:36.920 statues to, um, uh, books and things. I've seen all kinds of very rare things at, at our auctions

00:07:44.240 that are pretty fun um also there will be storytelling uh i'll be storytelling with the

00:07:49.680 kids and um i think it's gonna be it's gonna be good and then you know sunday we wrap it up

00:07:56.720 kind of get a chance to say bye to everybody and then um you know return back to the grind if you

00:08:02.560 will um how's your god hello got everything unless you can think of something else

00:08:15.220 No, I'm just trying to get my computer all set up here.

00:08:19.660 I'm not in the studio, so I didn't realize I was live quite yet, but that's all good.

00:08:27.740 I was just going to answer some questions until we got set up.

00:08:32.660 I was going to say, Nick, have you given them links for what we're doing as far as where they can follow along?

00:08:44.240 If so, I was going to say, let's go ahead and do that. We're going into part six today of our have them all study. Apologize for being a couple of minutes late here, trying to get everything squared away.

00:09:01.900 yeah it's been real good we have what I think seven more stanzas that I wanted to do last time

00:09:15.160 and we just just did not quite make it that far all right I am in the in the studio now so I feel

00:09:30.300 little bit more with it. First thing I see is Ronald donating to the VNS and to the Baldershof Fund.

00:09:43.180 Thank you so much for your continued generosity. It really is very much appreciated. Thank you.

00:09:53.340 Cool. So as I'm sure Svon was saying, we're all very excited about Ostara coming up

00:09:58.700 little bit over a week from today. Matter of fact, this time next week, I will be

00:10:06.280 flying out. I should be, I don't know, shoot, I should be, I should be about halfway there

00:10:15.560 on my journey. So we're going to have Witten Brandy Callahan hosting the show. She's going

00:10:21.400 to do a special Ostara episode, hyping the event that's coming up. And I'm not sure who

00:10:28.480 she is going to have to join her she may have somebody special she may have a couple few

00:10:33.680 somebody special so it'll be a nice episode next week yeah don't forget to like share subscribe

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00:11:07.800 um so yeah with that we're

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00:11:22.280 131 to start this week.

00:11:25.220 Is that correct? Yes, sir. It is.

00:11:27.720 All right. Well,

00:11:29.060 if you could go ahead

00:11:33.040 and start us out with 131,

00:11:35.180 we'll get right into it.

00:11:37.020 So remembering two from last

00:11:39.020 episode, these are the

00:11:40.880 the

00:11:42.880 councils

00:11:44.880 the wisdom given unto the Thuler, the singer, the bard, the skald, Lodfafnir, and we're going to read those.

00:12:03.580 Remember, these are going to have those intros mostly throughout all of them.

00:12:08.660 And then we'll eventually shift to the last and, you know, kind of final part of the Halvamal.

00:12:14.880 Um, so 131, getting right into it. Uh, I read the, remember read is R E D E, which really means

00:12:24.860 council. And, uh, it survives in the words like Alfred or Eldred, uh, the last part there,

00:12:33.420 meaning, uh, you know, of course, council by the elders or council by the elves. Um,

00:12:42.040 So just to clarify, especially for anybody that's doing audio.

00:12:47.540 So I read thee, Lord Fafnir, and hear thou my read, prophet thou hast, if thou hearest, great thy gain, if thou learnest.

00:12:58.240 I bid thee be weary, but be not fearful.

00:13:02.820 Beware most with the ale of another's wife

00:13:07.640 And third, beware lest a thief outwit thee

00:13:12.380 Again, a reiteration here on

00:13:20.300 The immoral

00:13:23.260 Decisions, I think, of

00:13:29.100 philandering with another man's wife. And again, to context, we brought this up before. And if you

00:13:40.100 haven't seen the other episodes is again, most of these are dedicated to the young warriors.

00:13:46.400 So it is absolutely, this poem is coming from the elder warrior to the younger warrior, or in

00:13:56.200 essence the great lord the the oldest and wisest warrior odin to any young man of course in this

00:14:04.740 case lodfafnir but not throughout the entire uh halvamal so you're going to see a lot of the

00:14:09.920 um advice being contexted in that that form um you know and then of course too there is the

00:14:21.560 you know, unless a thief outwit me. I think this one is really about passive vigilance and

00:14:28.600 manifested vigilance. So you have the idea that you have to keep your wits about you within your

00:14:37.460 society, your culture, within the moral frameworks, but then you also need to keep yourself aware and

00:14:44.500 focused on the dangers that, you know, from someone outside your kin fence, I'm not saying

00:14:51.600 that it can't also be a threat of thievery, but certainly I think this is the context that

00:15:00.560 within your culture, within your community, you should always be aware of the norms. You should

00:15:05.020 be aware of the morals and the mores. And then the other is that you shouldn't just be so naive

00:15:10.280 that you let yourself be taken advantage of by those outside?

00:15:20.680 So since we're reiterating a couple of things, and I think this is worthwhile to do.

00:15:27.940 Yes, this is advice to warriors, but it's also, it's certainly geared at young men.

00:15:34.920 And it's also very specifically geared at people who are traveling far from home, right?

00:15:41.060 You know, unfamiliar environment.

00:15:43.940 And more than that, we're in an unfamiliar social environment.

00:15:48.380 All of this is social.

00:15:50.420 So keep in mind, we can all learn valuable lessons from this at any stage in our life

00:15:58.500 or whether we're the intended audience or not.

00:16:01.440 It's important that we look at this from all angles.

00:16:04.920 And that's why, one of the reasons I'm so thankful we're going over this show, you know, Svon and I have each, you know, been through this, I don't know, 20, 30 more times.

00:16:18.140 I think your habamal is probably the fabric of our lore that's rubbed the most bare with use.

00:16:28.520 But reading it and rethinking on it at different stages, different seasons in your life,

00:16:35.720 gives you a little bit different insight.

00:16:39.020 All of these are, if you are the person being spoken to, you know,

00:16:45.080 these are things to keep your wits about you.

00:16:47.420 these are things to be careful of if you're on the other team these are really good ways that you can

00:16:55.900 you know lead uh lead people astray if they're foolish or if they're susceptible and they don't

00:17:01.740 heed this wisdom if they don't heed the read you can you know these are good tools to manipulate

00:17:08.060 people if that's what you want to do these are things to watch out for socially if you see

00:17:13.260 happening to other people. These are things to advise your son, your little brother, your kinsmen

00:17:20.480 against falling prey to. These are things from a lot of different angles. Understanding these

00:17:28.680 social dynamics is incredibly useful, even if you're not the young warrior out on the road for

00:17:36.380 the first time. This is kind of an interesting verse because it goes hand in hand with something

00:17:41.180 um my dad was advising me when i was young man i think i was 20 and i was going over on a trip

00:17:48.120 to europe it was kind of my go on a trip by myself and see the world uh adventure that i went on and

00:17:55.180 and watch out because i guess in his day this is you know what was a common scheme with people

00:18:02.040 who are traveling is to uh like

00:18:06.440 say well you go to a bar over there and some girl wants to show you a bunch of attention and 0.86

00:18:14.860 she asks you to buy her a drink and next thing you know you're buying something that is 0.64

00:18:18.480 shockingly overpriced you've just unknowingly made some kind of deal with a prostitute and her pimp

00:18:26.240 that you can't afford and you didn't necessarily buy into,

00:18:30.780 but then they'll shake you down for payment or whatever.

00:18:33.680 And there's a number of scams that have always happened

00:18:37.040 when someone is far from home and they're new to the world,

00:18:42.880 they're new to drinking.

00:18:45.640 Speaking about young men, you know, this happens.

00:18:48.120 Guys get out all of a sudden.

00:18:49.720 They're 21 and they go to the bar and they find themselves by themselves.

00:18:53.620 Ladies, you guys do this too.

00:18:55.140 go out with another group of girls, next thing you know, they found some guys, they're off doing

00:18:59.260 their thing and you're there by yourself, not experienced with drinking, not experienced with

00:19:03.980 the social dynamic. It's very easy to get yourself in trouble. So this is something to seriously

00:19:09.440 think on. You know, the chick that's coming up and giving you a bunch of attention, is it because

00:19:14.660 she likes you? Is it because there's an ulterior motive? Is it because she's married and she's 1.00

00:19:20.140 trying to get her husband across the bar to get mad at you and come throw you a beating because 1.00

00:19:24.680 that's enticing to her. She needs, you know, to, uh, get him angry because that's how she does 1.00

00:19:32.300 things. I don't know. I've certainly seen that happen to folks. So there's a lot of things to

00:19:36.960 be aware of. And as, uh, we've heard earlier in the poem, you know, drinking and pretty girls,

00:19:44.700 they'll, they'll get you in trouble. Um, and they will often facilitate somebody who wants to take 0.95

00:19:52.040 your money, finding a way to do it. So, I mean, I think any, any man here has been there and at

00:19:59.320 least seen this happen, if not fallen victim to some of it. I definitely think too, one of the

00:20:07.360 interesting things about the Halvamal is there are so many verses warning about the dangers of

00:20:14.800 over drinking um i think that a lot of people think of our faith as being like oh it's a viking

00:20:23.300 religion with lots of drinking that's really rudimentary but you know overall um if they're

00:20:32.460 familiar with the halvamal there's lots of uh direction towards be wary of of over drinking

00:20:38.940 too much ale, do not, you know, and especially if you add these two together, don't drink

00:20:45.420 around, you know, other, other folks, you know, wives or anything really what it, what

00:20:55.000 I think it's the best thing to say is, is you shouldn't be in compromise, in a compromisable

00:21:02.240 position by drinking in a situation that can be misconstrued and so you should you know kind of

00:21:10.160 uh hold back from those those things because you never know um somebody could accuse you of

00:21:17.360 something or something of that nature and if you've been compromised by drinking then it

00:21:21.760 it it can get it can uh deteriorate your credibility so i think that this one too kind of

00:21:29.520 if you read them together is another good something else also you know if you're out

00:21:37.200 if you're out on the town or you're out in a strange place having a good time

00:21:41.600 and you're drinking and something happens the first question a police officer is going to ask

00:21:48.800 if it gets to that point is how much have you had to drink tonight any answer other than zero

00:21:55.600 is going to significantly hurt your credibility

00:22:02.240 if someone's looking to jam you up so yeah no i mean this is this is common sense but i think

00:22:09.520 it's something that we all would advise our sons or our daughters to do it's something that we all

00:22:16.400 were aware of or wished that we were aware of before we uh started going out in the world on

00:22:22.560 our own and again i just i love i love to have them all because it is so very very applicable

00:22:32.800 what do we got for 132. okay so i read thee load fafnir and hear thou my read prophet thou hast

00:22:45.040 if thou hearest great thy gain if thou learnest scorn or mocking never shalt thou make of a guest

00:22:52.480 or a journey goer so i'm one that's quite interesting the idea that uh there's a couple

00:22:59.280 of the translations the the journey goer versus perhaps the traveler or the wayfarer might be

00:23:04.960 but it's just interesting um usage there but again this really starts to context the idea of

00:23:14.920 when you're dealing with the gray zone of people that know other people if you um have a guest

00:23:23.220 or you have a traveler that's somehow known to you or in your proximity maybe you don't know

00:23:30.420 them personally, or clearly, if you don't know them personally, don't mock, joke, or even really

00:23:37.100 press too hard because you don't know the context of their humor. And even if you do, again, you

00:23:47.160 don't know the full scope of the person. You should reserve scorn for your enemies and you should

00:23:56.340 reserve criticism for your friends and silence for someone you don't know and who doesn't fit

00:24:01.140 into either of those two categories all right guys i got i got a story um uh oh if you don't

00:24:06.820 if you don't like my bouncing stories feel free to fast forward or go take a potty break or whatever

00:24:14.340 you got to do um but this this is the thing especially when you're in a strange territory 0.85

00:24:21.140 It's very expensive people, and it's always fun to make fun of somebody who looks ridiculous

00:24:33.920 until it isn't.

00:24:37.260 So we had this guy that used to come in pretty regular at the place I was working at, and

00:24:44.340 And he was the stereotypical white dude that was trying to pretend he wasn't.

00:24:53.600 So he would come in with this really thick put on hood accent.

00:25:00.600 And he's like wearing the oversized pretend fur coat with the flat brim hat kind of to

00:25:08.020 the side and even had a tag on it.

00:25:11.940 he's just ridiculous trying to schmooze with with security and whatever else pretending that he's 0.98

00:25:17.980 somebody and i mean he must have weighed 150 pounds soaking wet like just curly haired nerdy 0.98

00:25:30.080 looking white kid doing his thing and he'd come in and he was the butt of a lot of jokes and he's

00:25:36.500 easy to get laughs at, but I was always, you know, I always treated him well. I was always

00:25:41.540 nice to him when he came in and when he wanted to like, what it is, and like slap my hand

00:25:47.960 and do a little side hug and whatever. Give the guy a hug. I'd, you know, welcome him

00:25:52.300 and be nice to him. So anyway, as time goes by, this guy comes in, he's continually just

00:25:59.040 ridiculous, but he's, he's keeping a gangster all the time. He's always violating all of 0.90

00:26:05.080 a dress code to specifically keep a certain element out and he is yeah so it's it's whatever

00:26:14.460 but i continue to be nice to him later midweek i'm picking my friend up he's in a bad way

00:26:23.580 and he is at a uh gentleman's club across town that's not the good gentleman's club but the

00:26:32.900 place where the ladies that would perform at such location go to finish their career perhaps or uh

00:26:43.060 to get easy access to chemicals that they may or may not have an addiction to

00:26:50.820 so it's a it's a pretty rough place but i go in there to pick my friend up he's having a hard

00:26:55.540 time whatever I walk in there this little white dude is sitting at the end of this long table in 0.98

00:27:04.140 there with these thugged out gangster looking legit gonna kill you um gentlemen of color in 0.99

00:27:12.000 this place and he is holding court he is like slapping them in the back of the head and telling 0.99

00:27:17.320 them about themselves he is running the show and he's also not careful about what he's wearing so

00:27:24.840 he's strapped up and these guys are like legit crime stuff's going on and i walk in there i'm

00:27:32.120 like what did i walk into but because i was always nice to him he gets them all up makes them all say

00:27:39.080 hello to me daps me up and goes and like insists that the bartender give me whatever i want and

00:27:45.160 like falls all over me takes super good care of cleaning my friend up and getting them all taken

00:27:50.840 care of. I have no idea what went down there after we left, but we found ourselves in an

00:27:58.020 odd situation that worked out really well because I had shown this guy respect when

00:28:03.940 he was easily asking to get mocked and it paid off pretty well. So it relates to the

00:28:17.120 stands i promise i'm still surprised that he's he was legit like no and so he like took out his

00:28:24.140 wallet and he did the thing where he opened it up and it like slinky rolled out his his little

00:28:30.620 picture album of all his different um ebony baby mamas and his african kids and like

00:28:39.040 no he's he's he was living the gimmick

00:28:43.320 i guess he was in fact about that life

00:28:49.400 just go show you never know yeah and again too it never gives you any worth

00:28:59.320 uh to create that any and you know it's one thing when you unintentionally give offense and that

00:29:07.660 could perhaps be in joking around people might not understand your humor but you know to to give

00:29:12.760 scorn to unnecessarily does nothing of value you know it's always best to just kind of

00:29:18.800 slowly read the person and even then you know it's better to get to know them before you

00:29:24.320 you joke and and and have fun i i i really do um you know love this stanza because i kind of

00:29:34.020 naturally abide by this. I don't, I'm not a very, um, sociable person when it comes to

00:29:40.260 say random group parties or meetings. And it's not because I'm, I'm, you know, against or

00:29:49.640 are unable to socialize. It's just that I prefer to kind of go slow. Cause you just never know.

00:29:56.780 You never know.

00:29:57.720 i'm just looking at the chat for anybody i'm sorry i got here late so i'm a little bit behind

00:30:10.900 the eight ball on a couple of things um so folks know ask whatever you guys would like especially

00:30:16.900 new people we will answer any and all of your questions we try to go through and ask you know

00:30:23.180 and answer stuff as it relates to what we're reading during the meet of it and then when we're

00:30:28.720 done we get kind of all the questions that are a little bit more random or directed but we're happy

00:30:34.420 to answer anything you guys ask it's all about y'all's participation it kind of fuels a lot of

00:30:39.480 the discussion and uh yeah so thank you for being here thank you for listening and thank you for

00:30:44.780 participating um i notice we've got we've got some interesting guests in the chat room and i might as

00:30:53.100 well uh mention while we're doing it um connor in the twin cities hey thank you very much for

00:31:02.900 stopping by and giving us a listen appreciate having you here um i see brandy is already

00:31:10.920 talking to you in the chat room a little bit, but I know you say you, you kind of tend to lean

00:31:17.220 universalist. I think that's, you know, saying that up front and being here and listening with

00:31:27.980 us tonight is, you know, we appreciate that a lot. Hope that you get something out of it. Enjoy what

00:31:35.540 you hear. You also complimented us on the food pantry. Thank you for that. It's something that

00:31:41.340 we really care about. And yeah, if you have questions or anything, Brandy is the lady to

00:31:47.720 answer them. She runs things at Baldershof, which is just a couple of hours from you in Murdoch.

00:31:55.600 And yeah, welcome and thank you for joining us tonight. Also, we've got,

00:32:00.600 um his name is kind of a strange name we got a gentleman in tennessee very close to sigerheim so

00:32:11.800 actionable intelligence um yeah you're super close you should get with nick and maybe go

00:32:17.720 by and check it out if you're at all interested um that's up uh just outside of gainsborough

00:32:24.680 in uh jackson county tennessee there so glad you're joining us on the show tonight um yeah

00:32:31.320 and thanks for everybody who's here uh with that i'm cool with going on to 133 if you are

00:32:38.280 yeah absolutely so uh 133 again lends back to one of my favorite um uh

00:32:49.640 you know, stanzas from earlier, but it kind of has the same flow to it.

00:32:56.960 Oft scarcely he knows who sits in the house. What kind is the man who comes?

00:33:04.440 None is so good. None so good is found that faults he has not, nor so wicked that not he is worth.

00:33:13.700 So that first part of the stanza is kind of, again, lending to the latter because there's discrepancies on where this, the division is.

00:33:24.960 So it's worth remembering 132, you know, if you read that last part, scorn or mocking, never shalt thou make of a guest or a journey goer, oft scarcely he knows.

00:33:35.600 So like immediately jumping into 133, you'll see there's a, there's that bridge there and there's a dispute mainly because, um, in one manuscript, there was an addition and they oftentimes there's a removal of those, um, two lines because there's a debate as to when they were to placed in.

00:33:55.280 Um, I did want to bring it up though. So it's, you know, um, it kind of throws things off since they removed it, but, um, the, the, uh, oft scarcely he knows who sits in the house. What kind is the man who comes? None so good is found that faults. He has not nor so wicked that not. He is worth evil and good. Do men's sons ever mingled bear in their breasts.

00:34:22.780 So that part there is oftentimes removed, but I think, again, it's worth noting that people often wear their morality out, or you can see it in their actions, but nobody is perhaps so crass or perhaps maybe even you just don't quite get along with them.

00:34:50.300 they still have good value uh and there are there are people who have very good demeanor

00:34:57.160 um but you know you might have things that you might not like about them so really this uh 133

00:35:06.260 kind of being an extension of 132 is also then stating that you should be um you should allow

00:35:13.620 wisdom to kind of arc over time in your way of perceiving a person because even though you might

00:35:23.140 not like them at first they end up showing great value or you know stalwartness or a drive or

00:35:30.820 dedication that you maybe didn't quite see and that's happened numerous times within the church

00:35:36.500 that you know you meet somebody and and you know just personally i'm thinking oh you know

00:35:42.740 are they here is this really a face for them do they really believe in the gods is this just

00:35:47.700 something they're trying to do on the weekends or is this a hobby for them and then they show

00:35:52.740 up and then they end up you know really diving in or you know trying to get all the lore you know

00:36:01.460 sitting and taking notes at all the classes and really just showing up to help and i would not

00:36:06.820 have guessed it and so i've definitely had to eat crow quite a couple times because again judging

00:36:13.220 people is human nature and i think it's good and it is survival but knowing when you're wrong

00:36:21.780 is also i think a you know a noble act that um kind of leaves us to you know learn a little bit

00:36:30.820 as we go because some people just prove forth over time they don't up front and sometimes the people

00:36:38.260 that are up front fall out you know the facade is it so you know give give time let time determine

00:36:46.260 that for you um before you you really cast uh worth or ill towards the person um yeah it

00:36:58.020 It, following on what Svon said, it's one of the big lessons.

00:37:04.520 Now, one of the uncomfortable truths, I guess the uncomfortable truth is there is a lot of gray in the world.

00:37:18.760 And it's not, it's very, very seldom a proposition of all this or all that.

00:37:25.160 well never judge a book by its cover no you absolutely need to judge books by their cover

00:37:33.140 but judgment doesn't stop there that's a place to start you don't make a firm judgment that's

00:37:41.020 unmovable by the cover by that same token you know you don't entrench your position until you need to

00:37:50.740 keep your hands free keep your ability keep your head on a swivel so much of this is about first

00:37:59.640 impressions and how to deal with first impressions but it's also about trusting and praising things

00:38:05.680 and making a final verdict on things once they're proven so you know as Svan said it's give people

00:38:13.800 a chance to show their true colors before you take an action based on your assumption and you

00:38:20.280 wisdom will grow and you can make better decisions as time goes on with people

00:38:25.200 which dealing with again you don't know what they know you don't know where they

00:38:29.740 come from you don't know what they've got on them you don't know who their

00:38:37.260 friends are and who they know yeah they could be dopey and whatever else but

00:38:45.760 maybe their brother is somebody you really wish that you were on the right

00:38:49.460 side of and i don't just mean from like danger getting you know getting whooped i mean maybe

00:38:57.460 that's a friendship that would have been very advantageous to you that you just passed up

00:39:02.900 you know our lore speaks about odin himself appearing as a beggar and you know testing

00:39:11.140 people hospitality and it would do you poorly if you you know made the wrong assumption about a

00:39:19.940 visit from the all-father so those are those are important things to kind of keep in mind a little

00:39:26.820 bit um and also as fawn said and we've seen this within ausiture so many times oh i can't say

00:39:37.700 enough so some of the biggest baddest scariest looking tattooed necked like looks like they've

00:39:49.680 seen some stuff guys when stuff gets thick or when the pressure's on i've seen those people 0.87

00:39:56.520 break i've seen those people run and hide i've seen some of those people be the most cowardly

00:40:01.540 people i've ever seen in my life i've also seen guys of 130 pounds look like a nerd don't look

00:40:08.580 like they've ever seen stuff they look soft and you know soft as soft can be and i've seen them

00:40:14.980 hard as steel when put to the test so you never know and there's a lot of people that'll surprise

00:40:23.780 you and surprises aren't all bad sometimes they're very pleasant so uh keep your head on a swivel

00:40:30.900 keep your mind open and you know trust but verify sometimes

00:40:43.620 what does 134 tell us uh this is the uh this is the eldred the council of the elders uh stanza

00:40:54.180 I read thee, Lord Fafner, and hear thou my read.

00:40:58.880 Prophet thou hast, if thou hearest, great thy gain, if thou learnest.

00:41:03.640 Scorn not ever the gray-haired singer. 1.00

00:41:07.280 Oft do the old speak good. 1.00

00:41:09.780 Oft from shriveled skin comes skillful counsels. 1.00

00:41:15.340 Though it hang with hides, and flap with the pelts,

00:41:18.700 and is blown with the bellies.

00:41:24.180 I mean, obviously it's pretty, there's some colorful, uh, kind of, you know, uh, painting of this. And I think that it's worth noting that what they, the, the references of the hanging with the hides and flapping with the pelts is, is really in essence, a, um, the old, like it would be equivalent to saying the old buildings, the, you know, whether the chipped paint and the rusted roof, the, uh, you know, the, the flapping.

00:41:54.180 pelts and the hanging hides about the house of the old coot, if you will, may be discerning

00:42:03.000 or may throw you off, but oftentimes you'll find great glimmers of wisdom in places that

00:42:09.960 don't hold or may not seem so majestic.

00:42:15.460 And that's, you know, I think that's really overall is saying, don't discount any place of the possibility.

00:42:26.980 And this is clearly from Lord Holden, because that's what he does.

00:42:30.940 He goes out, seeks the wisdom, no shadow unexplored, you know, no hall that doesn't have or bear value.

00:42:42.140 So, you know, despite it might being an enemy, or despite it might being someone who's old, do not discount where you the possibility of wisdom that you can gain. And oftentimes, the older and the more worn, the better the wisdom.

00:42:59.700 I'm not saying that's entirely the case all the time.

00:43:02.480 I've met some old folks who are, you know, uh, damaged and, and, and broken folks.

00:43:10.860 But I've also, I've met some old folks who just at a certain point in their life, they,

00:43:15.260 they stopped caring about certain things, but they had experienced just vast amount

00:43:21.640 of adventure and wisdom.

00:43:24.160 And so you would, you know, see this person, you just count them as like, oh, wow, they're

00:43:27.880 just, they don't even care.

00:43:30.260 and uh ends up you know you gain sagely wisdom yeah that's i mean

00:43:40.660 we all know that it's true to that you should respect your elders and you should listen to them

00:43:46.100 and all of that is very true on the face of it but it's easy to realize that and brush it off

00:43:52.980 no if you get an old timer and he wants to sit there and talk

00:44:00.820 let him talk absorb the wisdom when you can it's really easy because some of these old guys want

00:44:08.620 to get verbose and they tell you this sometimes they tell you the same story over and over again 0.84

00:44:14.020 but you'll notice as they tell you the same story over and over again they add new little pieces

00:44:20.440 here and there and that said wrapped in some you know folksy uh this old-timers you know

00:44:28.360 rattling on with his stories is a lifetime worth of experience of what they've done what they've

00:44:35.400 seen what they've experienced what they haven't done seen or experienced that haunts them with

00:44:41.480 regret um that is i don't think that we all appreciate it when we're very young but

00:44:52.520 in my life the conversations that i've been able to have with um

00:44:59.560 with men and sometimes women older than you know significantly older than myself have been some of

00:45:05.080 the best spent time.

00:45:11.060 And those old timers, once you find them,

00:45:15.300 sometimes there's a clock on that and you don't have forever to absorb that

00:45:20.300 wisdom. I am very, very thankful for, you know,

00:45:23.020 I'm just thinking in my head and I can think of off the top of my head,

00:45:26.280 double digits of old timers that I have benefited greatly from,

00:45:32.060 And, you know, take them the time to sit and listen to their stories and engage them in conversation because it's invaluable in itself that once it's gone and won't come again, at least not the same way.

00:45:50.720 All right. And that was 34. What do we got for 135?

00:45:54.480 I was going to say I'm a very fortunate benefit from that.

00:46:01.560 My wife's grandmother is 103, and she's fully coherent, moves around on her own, helps me prepare food for her.

00:46:17.780 And some of the stories every time we sit down are just awesome.

00:46:24.480 They're just getting a peek into a time, you know, that long ago, 1920s, 1930s, amazing, amazing stuff.

00:46:38.560 So soak it up while you can.

00:46:43.940 Let's see here.

00:46:44.840 So now in 135, I read the Lothfafzner, and hear thou my read.

00:46:51.260 profit thou hast if thou hearest great thy gain if thou learnest curse not thy guest nor show him

00:46:57.740 thy gate deal well with a man in want so obviously this here is one of the reasons

00:47:06.880 this is the stanza that really brings out the nobility of giving the idea that um and it does

00:47:14.780 have some variations time has changed much but in the in the olden times on a general sense

00:47:23.280 if you were traveling and you needed a place um to find respite from the weather you could

00:47:31.260 if you found a homestead go there announce yourself and ask if you could be you know you

00:47:37.720 seek refuge there for a little bit of time before you moved on and that was that had a great amount

00:47:43.480 of um cultural context to it and it had benefits and it had drawbacks in the in relation to a lot

00:47:54.960 of things um generally it was on the word of the person announcing themselves and on the

00:48:01.780 hospitality of the person giving the guest um shelter obviously now you know i would not

00:48:09.100 recommend that you just allow somebody passing by into your house if they ask. Um, but it's,

00:48:18.500 it's about giving, giving unto those who are in need. Um, and that is really what the hospitality

00:48:28.620 towards the guest, uh, in this relation, you know, showing him the gate, um, and why it's

00:48:36.400 directly related to deal well with a man and want is that those coalesce together.

00:48:43.760 If you find yourself where you're able to give and you have a person who's asking for

00:48:48.720 help, um, honestly needing it, uh, hopefully honestly needing it, um, you know, give unto

00:48:56.900 them if you can, uh, and again, it's best to control the situations too.

00:49:01.400 You know, I'm not saying in the sometimes in the sense where you see a person who's asking for things and they're clearly doing it to substantiate a desire or something that's really not good for them, alcohol, drugs, whatever.

00:49:13.760 and you know giving them money might not um you know do well but if you can give them food or

00:49:23.400 something of that nature i i had an interesting story that happened here in which i um i ran into

00:49:32.100 a homeless man who was outside of a corner store and he's just seemed kind of downtrodden and

00:49:40.160 didn't even ask for anything. I just stopped and said, Hey, do you, are you okay? And he said,

00:49:47.340 you know, I, I'm hungry. And so I went in and I bought him some food and then I asked him where

00:49:54.680 he was going. And he said that he was, you know, going one exit down the highway, but for him,

00:49:59.920 he's walking. So it's a long way. And I, you know, gauging this, this man, um, and you know,

00:50:06.420 just where he was and where i was at and with you know i i was able to defend myself um i offered him

00:50:14.420 a ride and i took him down and uh one of the strangest things that happened was as he was

00:50:19.780 driving with he told me that he was the wolf of london bridge which is a road um that his exit

00:50:28.340 was on. And, uh, you know, this is in the seven cities in, in, uh, Norfolk, Virginia beach.

00:50:35.540 And, uh, yeah, he says, I don't, do you know who I am? I'm, I'm the wolf of London bridge.

00:50:43.300 And I said, no, I never heard of you. Why did they call you the wolf? And he said, well,

00:50:47.500 I used to have really long hair, but a barber, um, I gave, I, you know, gave me a haircut to,

00:50:53.680 you know as charity um and that kind of you know um hit home i am a barber and um and i actually

00:51:03.240 knew the barber once he mentioned who he was um and i was like wow that's really great and then he

00:51:07.760 he said some other things but then he kind of i i dropped him off at the spot and i was like are

00:51:13.300 you good to go and he's like i can't see anything i'm blind in one eye and he looked over at me and

00:51:19.340 goes in this eye I'm blind I can't see so everything's really dark and I was like I will

00:51:27.480 I took him across the street I drove did a couple U-turns took him to a lit um like brightly lit

00:51:33.880 shopping center and was like I hope this helps you so you can you can eat and and so on and um

00:51:39.600 you know I had to I had to go home but I just thought it was a very um

00:51:44.420 odd interaction, but you never know. So you be, be good when you're able to be good,

00:51:54.360 be giving when you're able to be giving. And sometimes, you know, don't get caught up in

00:51:59.040 the reservations of it. Just make sure you're safe and then act nobly. I, that was truly an

00:52:06.520 interesting, um, interaction. I, I, it was very ominous. And I will say one other thing too,

00:52:14.120 as I, as I was leaving, I, I didn't want to, I took a photo of him. It was at a distance and I

00:52:21.220 didn't use a, uh, a flash. I didn't want it to seem rude. I didn't want to seem rude. But when

00:52:26.920 I took the picture, um, I guess the lights of the well-lit strip mall or, or shopping center,

00:52:33.140 really distorted his image and made him look like random halos or balls of light all around him.

00:52:44.060 And I couldn't make him out. And I didn't check my phone. I just took the picture and kind of left.

00:52:49.280 And I was just going to relate it to my wife about this odd interaction I had.

00:52:53.500 And I was going to show her the picture. And when I finally looked at the picture,

00:52:56.580 he couldn't make him out at all. It was just orbs of light, if you will.

00:53:03.140 So, there's my story for the night again.

00:53:06.700 Yeah, I remember when you told me that story.

00:53:09.680 That's a really, really interesting happening.

00:53:18.160 That's one of the things, and Svon's preamble to it.

00:53:22.900 Living a different day and age.

00:53:27.120 Random folks showing up at your house, unless you live in the middle of nowhere,

00:53:30.700 and there's some kind of a story involved safety first it's really important but there's a lot of

00:53:37.600 ways you can not let random hobos just come into your house with your family and still extend

00:53:44.660 kindnesses to folks who have a need and make sure people are taken care of it's one of those things

00:53:50.320 I remember you know it's we don't often see hitchhikers anymore that's not really a thing

00:53:59.300 have really cracked down on it we don't see that as much as we used to certainly um some of us

00:54:04.180 growing up but in alaska especially up in fairbanks alaska where i spent a lot of the winters

00:54:11.220 it'll be negative 60 negative 65 out and if you see somebody walking with their thumb out

00:54:18.580 if somebody doesn't pick them up especially on a you know kind of vacant road somewhere

00:54:24.180 where it can very easily be life or death. So in a cold and inhospitable environment, sometimes

00:54:32.620 a little bit of hospitality can make a very significant impact on how somebody does.

00:54:40.960 It's one of those things, it's kind of this stanza, but the principle that surrounds it

00:54:51.660 is kind of a big part of the inspiration of our food pantries is to you know extend kindness

00:54:58.860 to people in our community that might be in need and that's that's made a big impact it you know a

00:55:07.260 very relatively small kindness on your part can have a very big impact on on a person or a family

00:55:17.980 who really needs that at that time in their life um odenshoff's interesting it's in uh

00:55:25.500 brownsville california it's in a really economically depressed town

00:55:32.380 what's commonly referred to as a meth town um there's a lot of a lot of people on some really

00:55:39.180 hard times here and we've had some very interesting folks come there who very much look like and i

00:55:48.780 believe them when they say they haven't eaten in a few days and for us to be able to hand them

00:55:55.260 hand them something to eat give them you know some kind of a you know hey we care about you

00:56:01.020 we're sorry you're having a hard time here's some food we wish you the best you know a kind word

00:56:06.140 and a little bit of something to eat goes a long way towards maybe somebody who's at the very

00:56:13.100 bottom seeing a way out of it and it's it's been nice to it's been nice to be a part of

00:56:18.540 that sometimes i'm really glad we're able to do that for some folks

00:56:21.420 almost there all right what can you tell us about 136 so this is an interesting one depending on

00:56:39.400 the translation and how it's translated but let's go first with um bellows and 136

00:56:47.620 strong is the beam that raised must be to give an entrance to all give it a ring or grim will be

00:56:58.300 the wish it would work on thee so this is a really i don't i don't particularly like this

00:57:08.700 translation of this stanza um because it seems like it's disjointed uh especially when you look

00:57:15.620 at the Old Norse and you see like the beam is not a beam, it's the tree or perhaps the branch.

00:57:24.260 And is it, you know, referring to the upper beam of the door or is it referring to the latch?

00:57:29.680 And, you know, again, most likely the latch because of the word oploki, the idea of like

00:57:35.220 keeping unlocked the door or have a strong latching mechanism. But when you read it one

00:57:47.700 way, it sounds like strong must the being be to have an open door all the time, kind of again

00:57:54.040 alluding to the necessity of being able to take care of others requires that you be strong or

00:58:01.820 taking care of yourself which has value and merit but i think it gets lost at the latter half which

00:58:08.140 is if you have a strong barring arm on your door um and you know you give entrance to all

00:58:17.500 you should be giving to all these to the people you let into your house because if you don't

00:58:23.260 you may need to latch it is what i think is ultimately being said here is that

00:58:28.620 it's not about opening your doors to all for what have you it's that if you let people into your

00:58:39.720 house giving giving them a ring that is uh or rings you should give is what it's how it's kind

00:58:46.200 of said in old norse it's talking about gifts or or um be kind and give food give give drink and

00:58:55.040 and a place to stay or sleep and be goodly to,

00:58:58.920 to the persons that come into your hall, because if you don't,

00:59:02.820 you never know what kind of fomenting enemy you may find later.

00:59:06.940 And that may require you to have a very strong lock on.

00:59:12.200 And so that's one of the things that I find about this translation,

00:59:16.500 a little vexing, because when I first read it a long, long time ago,

00:59:20.640 I thought it meant the upper beam of a door.

00:59:23.160 But over time and looking at the way it was kind of context, I don't believe that's the case, is that if you treat your guests terrible, make sure you have a strong lock arm on your door because you might need it.

00:59:39.160 and yeah it's

00:59:45.080 it's tricky um

00:59:50.680 the commentary that others tend to have on it is it's like hey be careful and don't

01:00:02.840 give over much or you're going to find yourself in want and people are always going to be coming

01:00:07.080 back and you're gonna have problems that way and i i don't see that verbatim from the text

01:00:14.360 and i don't infer that from any attempt at the old norse i mean yeah be careful don't give to the

01:00:22.600 point that you and your family are in need of course and if you are known for your generosity

01:00:30.600 a lot of people are gonna you know come come looking for it all the time and there's there's

01:00:35.560 wisdom in that but i i think that spawns is a a point i guess better better taken when

01:00:46.920 when things get rough and i and we have a lot of

01:00:52.360 i don't know the last 20 years we seem to have this

01:00:55.720 societal collapse ideation just in the zeitgeist about you know a zombie apocalypse or you know

01:01:07.240 whatever the case might be if all sort of law all of a sudden law and order break down

01:01:15.960 people are going to remember folks that were nice when they didn't have to be

01:01:20.760 and they're going to remember folks that had a lot of stuff and wouldn't help out

01:01:25.720 and i think the uh the wrath of the mob would be quite different on people who are

01:01:33.480 have a history of taking care of their community versus people who don't um

01:01:40.440 so i think there's something to that but i think there's there's

01:01:43.320 you know a couple of different ways you can take this passage um

01:01:49.400 just thinking on the side and in the the hospitality bit talking about our our food

01:01:54.360 pantries something of note for folks because because we have been running food pantries and

01:02:03.960 because the communities know that that was something to do um recently had some hurricane

01:02:11.320 issues in florida that put a whole bunch of people in a bad way and the community reached out to us

01:02:19.160 to see if we could do an extra day or you know do a little bit more on our food pantry to help out

01:02:24.920 because there was a particular disaster and our folks our volunteers down there stepped up came

01:02:29.880 out for an additional day um our folks that donate food for that were you know loaded loaded us up

01:02:37.880 and we were able to really take care of the community and that's kind of how it arose

01:02:42.840 in brownsville for those that don't know the story at odin's off our very first doing the

01:02:48.600 food pantry there was uh the local food bank reached out they in brownsville had a little

01:02:55.480 they had like a little gas station store but that was kind of the grocery store in town there wasn't

01:03:00.120 a lot of resources um it's i don't know 30 40 it's 45 minutes or so to a good grocery store if you

01:03:07.800 live in brownsville and that's that's a long way and the folks there were there was a fire the

01:03:14.120 grocery store burned down and all these people that were you know marginal at best as far as

01:03:19.880 their ability to get by day to day had no groceries and so they reached the food bank reached out for

01:03:26.680 churches in brownsville to help out and each of the christian churches there and there's several

01:03:34.040 you know they weren't interested they didn't want to do it um so finally the the food bank reached

01:03:39.480 out to us and you know it read a little about us and you know asked hey would you guys be willing

01:03:45.800 to do this we jumped on it and we've been doing it ever since um the partnership with the food

01:03:52.920 bank only lasted for a few years but we've carried it on independently since then and

01:03:59.800 it's nice to have the ability to step up for our community when

01:04:03.720 you know when natural disaster or any kind of disaster strikes to be there

01:04:09.480 yeah that's what i got let's move on to uh 137 and then we'll take a little bit of a pause after

01:04:19.480 this next one and i'll get to the questions we've got built up so far because it's a natural stopping

01:04:25.320 point before we get to a a different and sometimes a lot of people's favorite portion of the have

01:04:31.480 them all certainly its own really interesting standalone section um so yeah we're gonna take

01:04:38.280 questions after this next stanza and then we will then we will start out on uh an interesting

01:04:47.320 an interesting journey i'd hoped to get to the end of 137 last week but it was not to be

01:04:53.320 all right it's fine let's let's close out the advice to love fafner so this is quite a cryptic

01:05:01.800 So, 137.

01:05:31.800 cures rupture the moon cures rage grass cures the scab and runes the sword cut the field absorbs

01:05:45.560 the flood this is truly a cryptic one and uh i still am looking into it like uh a perfect example

01:06:00.200 is again the the usage of the word is yorth which is the earth and yard is also in in a lower case

01:06:08.920 is of course um like ground or dirt or or soil uppercase of course is yard the mother of uh thor

01:06:22.120 the the the uh australia of the of the gods um so in this case in context though it's speaking of

01:06:33.160 soil dirt or earth and uh it is truly interesting because like just in that alone i don't quite know

01:06:42.680 what they mean are they are they speaking of the physical consumption uh perhaps

01:06:49.320 laying upon the earth um the context of this part here is um baffling to me um

01:07:02.360 another thing that's worth noting is the word of fire cures ills so that is not the word ills like

01:07:10.520 as we when we were talking last episode about ill and balefulness and the idea of evil versus

01:07:17.640 wrongdoing uh none of that is is truly mentioned but that it it speaks of sickness the fire cures

01:07:26.280 sickness and i i think this really is in reference to the the the breaking of uh viral infection

01:07:34.840 through through fire heat um and you know kind of dispelling that from the body um

01:07:43.160 um so in the the oak cures tightness it says ek vid abendi so abendi the oak cures

01:08:00.200 by so abendi is like binding binding of of of the the muscles is kind of what it's basically

01:08:09.160 alluding to is that it is the binding of the, of the, of the flesh or the limbs. Um, but I've

01:08:16.480 wondered if it meant that it was, uh, again, the freeing of, um, the limbs in relation to seizures.

01:08:24.020 Um, and perhaps then, you know, there's no emphasis as to what part of the oak, whether

01:08:29.180 it's the seed, the leaf, the root, the bark. Um, and I feel like a lot of this is again,

01:08:35.880 contextual to the time it's also worth noting though like oak um is not highly present in

01:08:44.040 in iceland and i don't think it was especially in you know back in the 12th century um so this is

01:08:51.560 clearly lending back to um the mainland in relation to uh some of these uh advisors

01:09:01.960 advisements so i i really do find this another uh the rye curing the rupture um i think this

01:09:11.560 is in reference to rye paste in order to stop blistering uh in the particular sense of like a

01:09:18.520 boil or a blister using rye paste to absorb the the boil is um or the the popped blister is what

01:09:29.080 is you know again being referenced here but then it gets cryptic with the the moon curing um rage

01:09:38.600 the the the uh especially with the word the um the shifting of the moon um

01:09:49.640 is cryptic and then it goes back to grass cures the scab again um

01:09:53.640 Um, the, the herb is what they're herb referring to in the idea of chewing the herb to create a

01:10:04.220 polstice. Um, and then it goes cryptic, cryptic again, and the runes, the sword cut, it does not

01:10:11.020 specify, you know, uh, which runes. And again, the sword cut, isn't the word it's balefulness

01:10:19.120 that is being spoke, or, you know, is the word that's used.

01:10:23.760 The idea is it's not necessarily against specifically a sword.

01:10:35.680 So I find this one, and then finally,

01:10:37.700 The Field Absorbs the Flood is absolutely one that, again,

01:10:44.960 speaks out with context unknown if you will so this one i i i you know really do try to look at

01:10:57.100 um you know and there is some notes uh you know clearly at the uh at the bottom that bellows kind

01:11:04.800 of uh relates to um about certain manuscripts and perhaps the you know the reference um

01:11:14.960 of household remedies is kind of how people just lay this one down.

01:11:21.560 But I've been trying to look at what it may be,

01:11:24.080 but we may never know in relation to the context of certain things.

01:11:34.240 I hate to be that.

01:11:35.720 You know, yeah.

01:11:39.200 So Swan, I will say this.

01:11:41.640 you you have an answer for every single one of these wines in every single thing that we've read

01:11:50.260 I don't really expect that all of them are going to be crystal clear to you this one honestly and

01:11:57.960 that's what the the subtext suggests at the bottom is you know it may just be a list of of folk

01:12:06.740 remedies that are are trusted and you know this is the folk remedies that that work that you should

01:12:14.180 pay attention to and uh we've lost a lot of the folk healing um that used to be very very common

01:12:25.880 especially rurally and even you know even until very recently there's a lot of i don't know your

01:12:34.580 grandma'd have some some old kooky sound and remedy that you know seemed to work back in her

01:12:39.940 day because some you know her parents told her about it or whatever and uh some of that stuff's

01:12:46.820 hokey and some of that stuff's potent and i think that our ancestors when they had to rely on it a

01:12:51.300 little bit more there's a lot more wisdom and contained in it and the particulars of it

01:12:57.540 been we give credit to but that that wraps up the uh lord fafner advice see kind of where we're at

01:13:10.100 with folks i did see somebody reference the idea that oak was utilized against constipation and

01:13:19.060 that not not tightness of the limb but tightness of the gut um and i was looking to see where

01:13:26.180 exactly that uh that laid in but again this is one of those cryptic ones where yeah so a couple

01:13:35.780 of a couple of things to touch on we had a question earlier on by avocado toast

01:13:42.820 he says i actually don't drink and a lot of my fellow gen zers are not drinking as much

01:13:48.660 as previous generations is it okay to offer things like cranberry juice instead of mead

01:13:55.300 for an offering um a couple of pieces on it first

01:14:05.540 sure um context is really important and your intention is important if that's what you've got

01:14:13.780 because you and your family are not drinkers and that's not what what you do then i don't think

01:14:20.900 that's frowned upon or bad or anything else the end of the day it is

01:14:29.140 the fluid that we use for offering is about a medium to carry intent

01:14:37.380 the idea of something nice is

01:14:42.820 because there is an intent there and a value to offer something nice

01:14:47.540 if you just go and get some tap water that's not the same it's not a lot of effort it's not a lot

01:14:53.460 of care put into it if you offer something that's nice that you have assigned a value to

01:15:01.540 then i think that's the that's the bigger point of it um and i don't think that's inappropriate

01:15:08.500 certainly um at events i try to

01:15:16.580 And I'm terrible about remembering to do this, but I've tried really hard to make it my habit when I'm doing ritual to have a horn of me, but also have a horn of sparkling cider for folks that aren't drinkers.

01:15:31.540 we have a lot of people that for whatever reason are dedicated to their sobriety

01:15:40.020 a lot of people have had a history of drinking that didn't didn't agree with them and didn't

01:15:47.000 cause good results for them or their family and so they've gone cold turkey on the alcohol and

01:15:52.700 that's you know them recognizing that and taking that step is really important we certainly want

01:15:58.900 support those people make sure they feel part of what we're doing a part of ritual so that's a

01:16:04.620 really nice thing to do if we can and we do that that often so don't feel like you have to be a

01:16:10.040 drinker to be involved in alistar true you really don't there's a day and age when um modern alistar

01:16:18.180 was you know early i'd say 80s 90s early 2000s where there was a lot of drinking going on and

01:16:30.420 i think a lot of people again kind of went overboard with making it a drinking party and

01:16:37.300 that's that's not the case there's a time and a place and you know i certainly like to drink at

01:16:43.220 events and after events to have merriment with my friends and and my fellow afa family members

01:16:52.900 having a beer right now but it's not a it's not a necessity to our practice it does

01:17:00.100 it does have a special purpose ensemble and one of the ideas is that the alcohol makes you a little

01:17:09.300 bit more prone to express your feelings to a group of people that you may not be super familiar with

01:17:15.060 and to be comfortable sharing it facilitates that a little bit more but again it's not

01:17:22.980 it's not necessary and you don't need to feel like you have to be a drinker to be involved

01:17:27.460 that's it's a very small piece of of what we're doing and what it's about

01:17:32.900 So yeah, keep that in mind. The big thing though, and I'd urge anybody on here who is sober and

01:17:41.220 that's part of their lifestyle, please be reflective that because maybe you had a problem

01:17:48.280 in your life with drinking, that doesn't mean that everybody else does. So it's really important

01:17:55.360 that we tolerate each other and it's easy sometimes for people who

01:18:02.720 have had problems they've overcome in their life and have made decisions that were best for them

01:18:08.740 and their family to decide everyone needs to make those same decisions and it doesn't quite work

01:18:14.980 that way so you know having a little bit a little bit of live and let live on on folks getting folks

01:18:22.420 getting by. What else we got here before we move forward? Avocado Toast, his rebuttal to that or

01:18:38.360 response, I guess. I'm not against drinking at all. I just don't like the taste and I'm a lightweight.

01:18:43.620 so i can hook you up on the taste i am known for my ridiculous fruity cocktails you know you put a

01:18:55.360 put an umbrella and some fruit in it that's my jam um but no i'm always trying to make something

01:19:00.660 delicious when i have folks over i can help you on the taste the lightweight thing i don't know

01:19:07.800 because my stuff tastes good but it also packs quite a punch um

01:19:17.800 a couple of things i don't i don't see it on here but i want to address it anyway um i think

01:19:29.080 somebody over on the side asked what our thoughts were on

01:19:33.240 on the nine doors of midgard and whether we you know advise folks do that whether they

01:19:43.400 should go through all nine of the doors as far as the curriculum in it it's fun have you ever

01:19:52.200 um i thought that he said because he's going to listen to the whole episode tomorrow

01:19:57.640 i'm just trying to break it up

01:20:03.240 fine then so i will keep that a secret till the end of the show uh as our our producer bid that

01:20:10.220 we do so we'll think on that we'll give you an answer by the end of the show the proverbial 1.00

01:20:17.140 carrot all right uh avocado toast said she's five foot five and 115 pound female that's why 1.00

01:20:26.860 lightweight 1.00

01:20:28.140 one of the times i was bouncing at that particular uh bar that i was bouncing at

01:20:49.740 we had this 400-pound Samoan gentleman, and he had a 115-ish pound white girlfriend.

01:21:00.000 And they were trying to go drink for drink together, and it didn't work out super well.

01:21:08.800 So I feel a little bit bad about this, but it's a funny story. No one was hurt in the making of

01:21:15.660 this story, I assure you, I checked and made sure afterwards.

01:21:18.900 So guy gets belligerent, he's whatever, 1.00

01:21:22.680 and I'm having to drag 400 pounds of angry Samoan dude 1.00

01:21:26.240 out of the bar. 1.00

01:21:27.120 So I have geared my nervous system

01:21:31.340 and my muscular system to do that.

01:21:34.800 And I end up dragging this guy

01:21:37.240 and I throw him out in the parking lot or whatever.

01:21:39.780 Well, then he squares up looking back at me. 1.00

01:21:41.760 And as people from the islands tend to do sometimes,

01:21:46.600 he would get in a rage to where he was making guttural war cry noises at me

01:21:51.540 and he was all clenched up.

01:21:53.460 So then his little girlfriend comes out.

01:21:56.200 She's trying so hard that she keeps grabbing my hands and like apologizing.

01:22:01.380 Oh, it didn't mean anything.

01:22:02.620 Would you try to have a nice night?

01:22:04.080 It's our anniversary.

01:22:04.900 Whatever she was trying to do.

01:22:06.180 But she kept grabbing my hands.

01:22:07.800 And I kept like, honey, I need my hands.

01:22:09.420 I need my hands.

01:22:10.260 I need my hands up.

01:22:11.120 i need my hands and so he comes charging at us and everything in my body is geared towards dealing 1.00

01:22:17.200 with a 400 pound samoa man so i go to gently move this this little woman out of the way 0.93

01:22:25.680 and she flies across the parking lot and it's icy so then when she lands she continues about

01:22:33.360 another 10 yards because i was geared up for for the boyfriend and i felt really bad my uh manager

01:22:40.000 was in my earpiece and like it was shocking on camera i reviewed it on camera and it looked

01:22:44.880 absurd but it worked the guy stopped and he was so shocked by seeing her flying through the air

01:22:51.920 that he's he stopped his advance we all paused for a second went over and you know checked and

01:22:58.640 she's just flying and everybody was good we all had a good laugh about it but yeah yeah stuff's

01:23:04.960 stuff's different when you're 115 pound uh lady and you're trying to drink with guys that are

01:23:14.880 multiple bills so it's a thing um that said let's move into the next portion

01:23:25.120 which is exciting the story didn't super relate but it came to mind and i felt like i had to say

01:23:29.840 something um there's a lot to talk about when we get into this section and i want to mention

01:23:44.320 that some some of what we will talk about is because we have a sincere belief that

01:23:51.520 maestro guido von list was blessed with inspiration from the all-father on runic

01:24:00.320 meanings very specifically with his armen and rune system as it relates to the stanzas that

01:24:07.360 we're going to be getting to here very shortly so when we bring that up if you're not familiar with

01:24:13.120 it that's the connection um and i think we might as well should tell that that story a bit right

01:24:18.960 now or mention it um you know we'll get to that here in just a second because i think it will

01:24:34.400 i'm going out of order more than i'd like to so spawn if you could read 138 for folks absolutely

01:24:41.840 and and these the the two stanzas are often compiled together if you see them written i've

01:24:50.300 seen them written in uh you know poems or on i've even seen them on like bookmarks these two are

01:24:55.960 often placed together and this is where yes it absolutely switches right after the the very large

01:25:01.820 cryptic um you know again about oak curing um constipation and such uh it shifts and this is

01:25:11.960 again we talked about these three poems kind of being placed together and this is absolutely the

01:25:18.040 you know the third um section um i wean that i hung on the windy tree hung there for nights

01:25:29.460 full nine

01:25:30.640 with the spear I was wounded

01:25:33.080 and offered I was

01:25:35.460 to Odin

01:25:36.180 myself to myself

01:25:38.660 on the tree that none

01:25:41.180 may ever know

01:25:42.140 what root beneath it runs

01:25:44.820 this

01:25:51.020 this is the beginning

01:25:53.420 I don't know if we should

01:25:54.540 did you want to couple it with the

01:25:56.200 let's go ahead and we'll do 139

01:25:59.440 this one because that kind of cuts the action in the middle yeah it's uh yeah with 139 kind of

01:26:07.840 as into the extension none none gave made me happy with loaf or horn and there below i looked

01:26:20.160 i took up the runes shrieking i took them and forthwith fell back i fell

01:26:29.440 So this is the initiation of Lord Odin to Yggdrasil in order to find and retrieve the building blocks of cosmic order.

01:26:49.500 As we've spoken about before, that the holy gods, the Aesir, they are the lords of cosmic order, just like the Vanir are of natural law, and the building blocks of cosmic order are kind of substantiated through with what would in essence be kind of an extension of weird or perhaps an extension of all things that flow together.

01:27:18.760 or the resonance of weird is it's kind of the way I've always looked at it is that um the resonance

01:27:25.300 of all activity creating its sound formulates in pattern and those patterns are the runes

01:27:33.880 um and it is important also to consider that Yggdrasil is in heaven and Lord Vodin

01:27:43.540 um sacrifices himself upon the tree he looks down upon the roots that nobody that that no one knows

01:27:54.260 where the roots run um again the mystery of that is that the roots run deep and far and into other

01:28:00.280 realms um that that it descends from there it's interconnected with with uh places that so few

01:28:08.100 know and um again the the poem itself is or the uh the stands itself is very very kind of finite

01:28:18.100 because if you consider a lot of what was kind of added in culturally by us as a people um

01:28:26.700 you know and is it the the context of the hanging the context of of the sacrifice or the gifting of

01:28:35.340 to Oven. Um, and the context of it being a kind of, and you'll hear this very often amongst people

01:28:42.920 who, um, discuss Lord of Oven's, uh, kind of Faustian principles. Um, we'll find that as

01:28:53.520 there as well. And, uh, whether you're talking about like, you know, Dr. Stephen Flowers,

01:28:58.140 He definitely keys in on this stanza about how Lord Odin places himself into the condition that allows him to see beyond.

01:29:11.480 And I think for myself, the way I've always seen this spiritually is that one of the powers of the Furious One, Lord Odin, is that he has the ability to integrate with one of the original tripartites of Gunungagap, the spreading roots.

01:29:31.580 He joins it. He sees all the way back. He sees the resonance and the patterns of all interactions as they form, and they are the runes.

01:29:45.500 i um i don't know i think this is it is very interesting i i i i'm caught up a little bit with

01:29:55.340 just the um perhaps the influence of certain things like i wonder obviously the younger

01:30:03.700 futhark uh that is generally known is to be of 16 runes and um you know most people here

01:30:12.140 you know we'll see that the the number goes beyond 16 um and of course uh older iterations

01:30:18.840 go up to 24 i've i've looked into a lot of trying to understand the reasonings behind those those

01:30:25.620 numbers again maestro guido van lists um uh reaching of being given meanings of these or

01:30:36.100 giving the symbols of these runes in relation to the meanings i find interesting i i wonder too

01:30:40.820 about um the runic calendar but there's an interesting thing about that is that

01:30:48.260 the runic calendar has a number of 19 runes in its futhark not 18. so again i think the

01:30:55.140 incompletion or at least the mystery the frayed edges of that which is not finite

01:31:01.300 is part of the dynamicism of trying to understand and learn and i think this

01:31:06.180 absolutely starts it gives it great context brings the mood down immediately into like focus

01:31:17.780 so spawn did you did you read 139 as well uh yes uh so i think i was just lost in my head

01:31:27.700 on it um because this is a a deep topic to kind of just jump right into so one of the things

01:31:36.740 that i'll say um is important to keep in mind

01:31:43.620 the runes are

01:31:53.220 the mystery being explained they are the fundamental building block they are the secret that's being

01:31:59.620 spoken that the room road itself means mystery and that's what we're discussing we when we

01:32:14.080 think of rooms we think of the sigil that personifies that mystery but and if spawn and

01:32:25.300 do it too we all do it but keep in mind when you're speaking about rooms there's two senses

01:32:32.100 of the word there's the picture of the room there's the straight lines stuck together

01:32:39.780 and then there is the meaning that that picture represents it's really easy to get caught up

01:32:45.380 in the picture

01:32:46.180 but that's not always how sigil magic works um and there may be a better or different time and

01:32:56.340 a place for some of this discussion i know we haven't already but the importance in

01:33:02.740 sigils is the meaning that you have applied to them and that you've invested in them they have

01:33:11.300 cultural meaning they resonate with you on a deep level because the image itself evokes a powerful

01:33:18.660 association and that's one of the big keys of working with and understanding the runes so don't

01:33:27.060 get hung up if you were not familiar with the armin and futhark or if you you know whatever

01:33:34.260 the case may be we've done a series on the runes there's a lot of right ways to do things but the

01:33:43.620 point is that lord othen took himself to the brink of

01:33:59.140 that separation of reality he took himself to the extreme where he transcended his condition

01:34:10.480 to reach down into the unfathomable and to pull out the mysteries of the universe

01:34:17.080 and we run into sound again when we talk about magic incantation important

01:34:24.100 it's always been a really important part of the stanza to me

01:34:28.760 it's like take him take him up and then fall back exhausted no roaring he took them i think

01:34:38.500 bellows says shrieking he took these rooms they are overwhelming in power and he spent himself

01:34:47.780 to the absolute limit that he was able to go in order to acquire this understanding of these

01:34:55.740 mysteries so you know going to that transcendent metaphysical condition is something that you know

01:35:08.860 we've seen in many different branches of our faith and other faiths have similar things

01:35:15.340 that one way to do that is by shamanic ordeal by taking oneself to the brink of death or of madness

01:35:29.800 due to fasting or ordeal in the heat or exhaustion there's many ways that different

01:35:41.900 So, Vitke can do that to reach out into the void or into what's other or into the gap.

01:35:54.560 In this instance, we see Odin pinning himself to a tree, impaling himself as a sacrifice to himself.

01:36:03.860 And it's a very graphic depiction of this.

01:36:08.540 And it's very visceral, the idea of him doing that and then taking them up, screaming as he took them up.

01:36:16.820 And one of the key things to remember about Odin is his name means the master of ecstasy or fury or madness in that kind of an esoteric sense of the word madness to where it's this ecstatic, furious, frenzied state that he accesses this through.

01:36:46.820 so um you know it's as powerful and visceral as part of the ordeal as as it gets and then from

01:36:55.340 this springs forth these these songs that uh are going to be taught to us here

01:37:04.200 oh and what i was going to say so this is the time to do it before we get in the next section

01:37:11.640 in order

01:37:14.920 those of you who are unfamiliar guido von list lived around the turn of um the 20th century from

01:37:22.520 the 19th through the 20th and in 1902 he had a uh a cataract surgery that left him blind for 11

01:37:32.120 months and in that time he thought deeply on our ancestral faith and this was pioneering

01:37:39.800 when no one else was doing this this was a new current that was happening

01:37:44.520 and you know there was a calling and an awakening in the folk soul to

01:37:53.400 reintroduce house the true into the world he was one of the very first people to do that and to

01:37:58.520 take those steps and in doing so he was given the inspiration during those 11 months of blindness

01:38:07.400 to make these connections and to make what has become known as the Armin and Runes.

01:38:15.580 And that's why we'll mention those when they come up in the relevant songs here.

01:38:23.360 We got cartoon Svan, so I'm assuming there's a technical issue or perhaps Svan stepped away

01:38:30.440 for a second, but we can all gaze at his cartoony goodness there.

01:38:37.400 i'm back i'm back sorry i had to step away for just a moment

01:38:40.500 no the cartoon's cool we enjoy uh getting a moment to take that all the disney version

01:38:46.320 so that said will you

01:38:53.320 read uh 140 for them please

01:38:58.660 yes 140 and so there is there is a little uh again from a poetic

01:39:07.280 or from a storytelling standpoint, what's going on right now is that when Lord Odin says that he's

01:39:15.080 done this great and grievous, uh, you know, sacrifice of himself to himself, uh, you know,

01:39:21.500 hanging and, and integrating with the circulatory system of the cosmos, Yggdrasil, um, he, he then

01:39:28.680 contexts, the reasoning, um, based on, and this is very, very like, uh, congruent with the style

01:39:39.340 of the time is it's like, I did this mighty thing. And this is why I did this mighty thing,

01:39:44.400 because I have done many mighty things before this. So if you want, that's one of the best

01:39:49.140 ways to look at these next couple of stanzas. So in 140, he says, nine mighty songs I got from

01:40:00.220 the son of Bullthorn, Besla's father, and a drink I got of goodly mead poured out of

01:40:08.100 this here is some people can't context these two together and i don't necessarily think that's the

01:40:23.060 case because there isn't really a mention of the nine great songs that he receives from

01:40:31.140 his uncle, who is

01:40:33.500 Mimir.

01:40:35.540 Mimir is the son of

01:40:37.120 Bolthorn. Mimir 0.89

01:40:39.120 is the brother of Besla. 1.00

01:40:41.620 Therefore, Lord Odin's

01:40:43.340 uncle.

01:40:46.700 Again,

01:40:47.200 the context of understanding is that one, 0.99

01:40:49.320 these are Jotuns.

01:40:51.140 These are Jotuns not from

01:40:53.120 Ymir, though. 0.83

01:40:54.980 These are called the 1.00

01:40:56.540 Hrimthurser. They're the Jotuns of 1.00

01:40:59.240 Nivelheim. These are 1.00

01:41:01.100 proto emir they're they're even they're before and in this sense when um

01:41:13.740 bore comes amongst the rim thirster after being descended from bury um

01:41:24.060 the unification of best law and it's interesting that their names the the one

01:41:28.300 bore the one who lifts up and best love the one who besets the one who lays out before or sets

01:41:37.260 things on like like besetting the table um these organizational factors are very again primordial in

01:41:46.860 relation but they're the starting of the cosmic order that facilitates from from the gods and

01:41:54.540 um in this case you know like there's no mentioning of these nine great songs

01:41:58.940 in the story of the attainment of the mead of poetry so i think that this is more again

01:42:07.020 hearkening to either perhaps a story unknown but this also would then reference more so towards

01:42:17.340 i especially think in relation to bestla that this is like the starting point he was given the

01:42:25.260 wisdom by his uncle and then he attained the mead of poetry and then you know and and then that

01:42:32.020 started the process of what he needed in order to bring us to the sacrifice of himself to gain

01:42:38.560 the runes so he's kind of lending back the idea that the um the start of the of the seeking of

01:42:46.800 these ancient mysteries and secrets and knowledge starts first with the nine songs and then moves

01:42:52.800 to the attainment of the meat of poetry and then moves you know on to the sacrifice uh upon the

01:42:59.500 tree it's kind of more or less a poetic flex in the idea and it does lend us to again leaving

01:43:07.800 the question do the nine mighty songs mean something were they there was there a story

01:43:13.520 in relation to them um you know they're spoken of terrible songs or powerful songs or

01:43:21.100 awesome yet fearful songs he learns from mimir and then again of course it could relate to the

01:43:29.060 idea that it was after when he places mimir on the on the the receiving end of time time flows

01:43:37.920 from earth's well and it you know uh descends into mims well or memory well and um you know

01:43:46.020 he places him as a headstone there um so it's just interesting in this regards i know some people had

01:43:54.020 some confusion too about who is you know the son of bullthorn or what it's that's easy to clear up

01:43:59.740 that's mimir um and it uh there is not much given on baleful thorn um other than it is bestless

01:44:10.320 father and he's an ancient jotun of the grim thurser of nephil uh of nephilheim and not uh

01:44:16.980 like the descendants of emir so bear that in mind as well uh that's the the list of the that joining

01:44:23.940 of power that the gods have is that the gods are created by the life-giving force of adhumla

01:44:30.660 but they also have within them and aligned to them and these jotuns have the ability to align

01:44:37.320 to order um his mother best law and also his uncle mimir so but he's stating that the reason

01:44:48.960 why he did the sacrifice is because he has been inspired or enticed to these great feats of

01:44:57.560 initiatory wisdom that now has proceeded itself to grow more and more and more incensed if you will

01:45:08.060 oh yeah because again it's emphasized in 141 on the next page

01:45:18.960 Um, so I don't, I'll certainly, I don't know. I don't think like there, I don't think there's much to interject there. Please feel free to go ahead and go into 41 if you would.

01:45:38.740 yes um again this extends to from 140 and explains exactly what i was saying is that like this is

01:45:47.960 this is the start this is the initiation this is the ecstaticism even within

01:45:54.980 it is the essence of the lord of ecstaticism the furious one um and he says then i then began i

01:46:05.440 to thrive and wisdom to get I grew and well I was each word led me on to another word each deed

01:46:14.560 led me on to another deed so here is the the rolling title power of Lord Odin and again it's

01:46:27.240 it's context within a time frame I I think again with referencing his mother this would then I

01:46:34.140 think kind of suggest that the songs, the nine mighty songs that his uncle gives him are given

01:46:40.300 to him when he is young. And this would have cultural context. A lot of times back in more

01:46:46.420 of the migrational or nomadic times of the Aryan people, if the father died, the raising of the

01:46:54.620 son was placed upon the brother of the mother. This had more of a legality sense. It was a way

01:47:03.500 to ensure that both sides could have an, an equal, um, kind of power, uh, in the future of

01:47:11.080 the menfolk of the tribe. So that's clearly a reflection there. Um, again, all familial ties

01:47:17.360 are again, reflections to our ancestral, um, organizational sense of tribalness. And so it

01:47:24.940 kind of contexts along with where the gods come from or, or go to, or, or join with, but I, you

01:47:35.220 know, I did want to bring it that that would make a great amount of sense that he would learn from

01:47:41.220 his uncle. Um, because this would be understood by our ancestors that, um, the, the, the mother's

01:47:47.920 family and the father's family, um, had great influence, but if the father was to pass away,

01:47:53.340 Like in battle, then the uncle was expected to be the male role model and pass on those

01:48:01.120 wisdoms.

01:48:01.520 But he's always kind of, again, led to emphasize that.

01:48:06.080 And it also keeps uniformity in the allegiances between the families so that the son doesn't

01:48:11.820 favor one family or the other.

01:48:16.320 You know, he's kind of given context that his father's family is close, patrilineally,

01:48:21.080 societally but my mother's uncle and or is a male figure and kind of lends to understanding her side

01:48:29.000 of the family so um i guess did you want to move because like 142 and

01:48:51.060 and uh 143 are also kind of 140 to 143 are all kind of interconnected yeah if you could go ahead

01:48:58.440 and just read through the totality of that um yeah the all the way up to 44 stop at 44 before

01:49:07.940 you read it if you would okay yeah so um you know runes thou uh runes shalt thou find and

01:49:19.500 fateful signs, that the king of singers colored, that's a very interesting kenning there, and the

01:49:27.580 mighty gods have made, full strong the signs, full mighty the signs, that the ruler of the gods doth

01:49:35.780 write. Odin for the gods,

01:49:40.620 Dauin for the elves, Dvalin 0.73

01:49:43.880 for the dwarves, Al-Svidh for the

01:49:47.800 giants and all mankind, and some

01:49:51.600 myself I wrote.

01:49:56.940 So this is a

01:49:58.600 that last line is

01:50:05.180 is interesting to me, but let's digest some of this. Um, the, uh, the usage of the word,

01:50:13.900 the mighty, uh, the, or the, the, the king of singers, um, again, referencing, uh,

01:50:20.540 True Lord Oven as the Fimble Fuller, the, like the, the louder, uh, awesome singer of songs. Um,

01:50:30.720 this this is where we kind of see an uh perhaps the poet and kind of uh moving away from

01:50:44.760 the the context as from lord odin himself is where you kind of see that that separation there

01:50:53.660 It's another interesting thing to note is Alsvid, Alswift for the Giants.

01:51:00.760 The only time we see this name again for one of the names of the horses of Suna are sold.

01:51:10.580 And, you know, is there a correlation between them?

01:51:14.680 I don't think so.

01:51:15.640 I think it's just.

01:51:16.340 oh you better go tell him to bring that down here so um a couple of things first

01:51:34.580 connor over on the side in the chat room um says for someone who grew up hating bible study in

01:51:41.480 church you two gentlemen do an excellent job of making this interesting and relevant hey

01:51:47.240 thank you very much we really appreciate the feedback um that's our hope is that this is

01:51:53.800 relevant to folks and it works and as luck would have it i have an inner deloper also

01:52:00.040 I love you. I'll see you tomorrow. Sleep good.

01:52:19.560 Wash her face. Somebody's been eating some chocolate, it appears, and so

01:52:26.280 So her face will be duly washed before she is put to bed.

01:52:32.100 No, so what I was saying was a couple of things.

01:52:34.380 First, thank you for the compliment.

01:52:35.860 I hope it's interesting and engaging for folks because that's important to us.

01:52:45.240 This material isn't a scholastic exercise to better understand old Norse culture.

01:52:53.540 that that's cool and this does some of that but no this is a religious text this is

01:53:01.940 wisdom passed to us from the all-father and we want to

01:53:10.340 we want to make good use of that we want to really digest it and get to the meat of it and it's

01:53:19.340 the entire have them all specifically is so very, very applicable to our life.

01:53:28.260 And what we're getting to here is applicable a lot to our faith more so than some of the other pieces.

01:53:35.060 So that said, something I want to note is there's no suggestion that this is all of the mysteries of the universe.

01:53:46.780 these are the mysteries these are the songs that lord odin learned

01:53:55.720 that he wants to share with mankind but when it talks here about a bigger

01:54:03.100 it implies that there's so much more to know he talks about the nine songs that he learned from

01:54:09.140 his uncle he talks about the magical need of inspiration that he won through his mead quest

01:54:16.800 he talks about you know these magical signs that were written by the mighty gods and some for the

01:54:25.920 dwarves some for the elves some for the giants some for mankind and some he put together himself

01:54:34.480 through his wisdom so there's more to know this is just a taste but this is specifically

01:54:44.000 our folks inheritance from the all-father that he's instructing us in here the uh

01:54:51.760 the the master of the runes the uh the lord of victory and the uh the king of of singers

01:55:02.800 So this is something we need to pay heed to and realize kind of the gravity of.

01:55:12.580 And we've still got a little bit to go before we get to the body of the rune songs.

01:55:19.520 But I think it's really interesting and very informative to practice and how to approach the runes, how to approach the ritual gift cycle with our gods, and how to approach any kind of a magical endeavor.

01:55:45.740 So, Svahn, can you take us through 144, please?

01:55:51.640 Yes, I did want to make the bringers of the runes in relation to Odin for the gods, Dayin for the elves, Dvalin for the dwarves,

01:56:07.120 also for the for the giants and all mankind one thing that's worth noting is i think these this

01:56:13.560 part of the poem is alluding to the the conduits of spreading the knowledge um but it's also worth

01:56:20.440 knowing that dayan and dvalin an alfar and a dvergar are also two of the four stags that

01:56:32.340 are mentioned as being within the branches of Yggdrasil nibbling on the leaves so you know

01:56:40.200 there is no context to that I've you know been kind of just trying to really quickly look and

01:56:45.440 see it because I don't want to speak without absolutely you know like feeling confident um

01:56:51.780 in like perhaps there's maybe something I missed there doesn't seem to be any relation in story to

01:56:59.040 how, or if they are exactly

01:57:01.760 the same, though

01:57:03.280 I do think it seems kind of

01:57:05.600 auspicious that two

01:57:07.600 of them are mentioned here, and then are also

01:57:09.580 mentioned in the Grimnismau

01:57:11.200 as being two of the hearts, and perhaps

01:57:13.660 they're dear, and

01:57:15.580 perhaps there is a story lost

01:57:17.520 in there about the

01:57:18.460 price of that

01:57:21.600 gift, if you will.

01:57:25.760 But no mention of

01:57:27.220 Though, again, the text I was wrong is all wise, not all swift.

01:57:37.240 So I wanted to kind of double back on that.

01:57:41.140 This part here is an interesting one.

01:57:45.520 And I think anybody who's interested in the carving of runes,

01:57:49.600 the reading of runes, and the usage of runes,

01:57:53.200 this has held a special

01:57:55.140 place for me in my

01:57:57.560 runic studies from my teacher

01:57:59.720 so

01:58:00.480 the

01:58:02.660 the

01:58:04.800 Old Norse

01:58:07.440 you might

01:58:08.280 I've heard it in songs, a lot of songs

01:58:11.660 actually, I think

01:58:12.420 a couple of like

01:58:14.780 Nordic bands

01:58:17.700 cover it

01:58:18.540 when they speak of it because of the way it has

01:58:21.660 that sing-y kind of repetition. But 144. Knowest how one shall write. Knowest how one shall read.

01:58:33.380 Again, R-E-D-E, counsel. Knowest how one shall tint or color. Knowest how one makes trial.

01:58:44.500 knowest how one shall ask

01:58:47.540 knowest how one shall

01:58:49.700 offer

01:58:50.280 knowest how one shall send

01:58:53.400 knowest how one shall

01:58:55.860 sacrifice

01:58:57.340 so

01:59:00.820 in this

01:59:03.720 it can kind of be seen as

01:59:05.740 you know

01:59:07.200 does one know how to write them

01:59:09.800 does one know how to counsel them

01:59:11.860 does one know how to color them

01:59:13.680 Um, does one know how to ask of them or, or make of use or, uh, yes, I'll just say that.

01:59:25.980 And then, uh, or then of asking of them or offering of them, sending them or sacrificing

01:59:32.600 them, this kind of, uh, contexting and Bellows's translations are a little bit different than

01:59:38.420 what I'm used to but um are the kind of back and forth between what I was always kind of taught of

01:59:47.400 as the receptive and projective powers of the runes in which the the forward thinking the

01:59:56.120 or forward moving forward acting the idea of the carving the blooding the projecting and then

02:00:02.700 there's also the counseling, the reading, um, and, and the, um, uh, you know, asking of them to guide

02:00:10.960 oneself. So there's clearly some divin, divinatory trialing placed in this. And again, I, I, these

02:00:17.880 are direct connections to the runes being utilized in magical ways that I have heard some people,

02:00:23.900 even in our own community and, uh, or in the, the interwebs at large is that there is no proof that

02:00:31.840 the runes were used in this sense or that sense. And I, I mean, the entire context of this section

02:00:38.200 of the Halvamal kind of, again, spits in the eye of a lot of that. Uh, and I think a lot of that 0.99

02:00:44.720 comes from people just consistently trying to dissipate things, to break things down or somehow

02:00:51.060 get an aha on it and, um, have that cynicism or, or the delusionment again, works, works of the,

02:00:59.640 of the Thurser. Um, and this clearly shows that that is not the case. And, uh, again, when they,

02:01:07.660 why, why would they, like, if you're not familiar with the runes, you know, um, why would they say

02:01:13.480 all of these things again, or why is it being said by Lourdes in the, in the poem? And it's,

02:01:17.800 it's talking about the processes and this might be a hidden sense of passing down knowledge,

02:01:23.800 but again in the form of asking do you you know do you know how you how to write them how to

02:01:30.180 counsel them how to color them because runes um are often colored that we have uh evidence of

02:01:37.220 um there being uh reddish coloring from uh a a dye called red ochre it's like a powder

02:01:46.140 um and it's it survives in some of the engravings of runes so generally in a

02:01:51.920 I think a more stylized sense it was seen as, uh, being colored.

02:01:57.220 You might not see this in like the graffiti of, of Rome or, uh,

02:02:00.980 like Northern Scotland or, or what have you. Um, but certainly on,

02:02:05.740 you know, rune stones, you'll see that they were colored. Um,

02:02:10.640 so I really do feel like there is a great

02:02:15.400 sense as I, I was taught by, by my teacher,

02:02:20.720 that this is the processes being passed down as a form of knowledge so Svan alluded to this a little

02:02:30.900 bit um you may come across a lot of the well actually crowd you know as they push the glasses

02:02:42.080 up the nose and make little trite, often just regurgitated trite remarks about some of these

02:02:53.260 things. And I think that it's worth mentioning again that if your point is scholastic trivia

02:03:07.700 about early scandinavian peoples um sure it's cool to find a little factoid and be like aha

02:03:18.820 but i know something you don't know but one of the things is when you do that you run the risk

02:03:24.900 of taking things out of their context in their totality um we read our lore as religious knowledge

02:03:36.900 passed down to us from our ancestors and ultimately from our gods so we look at it with an entirely

02:03:44.500 different eye we hear it with different ears and to do that to any fair-minded person

02:03:53.540 it's clear that runes were used as magical incantations it's clear that they were also

02:04:02.580 So carved, blooded, or colored in some other way, written that they were symbols, it's

02:04:13.280 clear they were used to ask questions and to get answers, it's clear they were used

02:04:20.460 for divinatory practice, it's clear they were used for all of these things, they were also

02:04:27.960 used as healing charms and the list doesn't stop there all of these things are referenced in our

02:04:36.520 lore and we can find them when someone tells you something that's a unique factoid you have to take

02:04:45.960 it and measure it against the context um and i think that all too often the the well actually

02:04:56.280 crowd doesn't doesn't do that much less do they practice any sort of religious or esoteric usage

02:05:05.560 of our rooms both swan and myself do and so i think our insight into this is informed in a

02:05:15.800 certainly in a different way than some of those other folks um it's very interesting there

02:05:23.400 this piece in specific because it talks about the steps necessary to do this right and

02:05:33.920 it's hard because we don't have the perfect answer come down to us on all this nobody

02:05:44.500 gave us an instruction manual of how to do room work so something that's interesting

02:05:50.520 is in modern times folks have had to re-experiment you know some folks have had to

02:06:03.180 know how one makes trial of figuring these things out in order to construct our current

02:06:13.420 runic practice there's plenty of room to make it more perfect but i know that many of us myself

02:06:21.180 included have had very important results from showing due respect to the runes and

02:06:31.580 piously and judiciously making use of them in certain occasions so i offer that as well it's

02:06:38.460 fine you were about to say um one of the things to look at here in the translations is when you're

02:06:46.700 uh like the the rista then there is raw then there is fawa and uh freista bivia blota senda

02:07:03.660 and so these are the key words and one of the things i wanted to bring up was that

02:07:08.620 based on translations and translations are always very funny because they can do different things

02:07:15.580 like again tinting or painting or coloring but rista is to carve or to write rada is of course

02:07:23.660 to counsel or to take heed from counsel fawa is to paint or to color and um the phrase was the

02:07:33.900 one i was looking at which kind of i thought odd make trial is what bellows says but the better

02:07:41.900 or i wouldn't say better let me just say kind of more or less the translation that i would look at

02:07:48.220 is the the usage of of uh tempting or coaxing so i wonder if coax would be a better word do you

02:07:56.940 know how to coax them or tempt them or attract them if you will attract their power um i just

02:08:05.500 i find the the the translation of phrase that to be interesting because it is like temptation

02:08:10.700 or to coax or to coerce um and then the other the last one um uh noticed how one shall sacrifice

02:08:20.740 uh soa in relation to blotter a lot of us associate the word blotter with sacrifice

02:08:28.800 soa kind of means to destroy now it could have a context of destroying in a sacral sense

02:08:35.400 But it would be better to say that it is, you know, left to destruction, if you will.

02:08:49.360 And speaking of that, I have been visited by a resistor of sleep, if you will, my son.

02:08:59.280 Say hi.

02:09:00.640 Hi.

02:09:01.380 Wave.

02:09:03.680 Up here.

02:09:05.400 All right. You got to go upstairs and go to bed. Keep sneaking up. Go.

02:09:12.260 I know. I'll deal with that later.

02:09:19.400 So, again, I think it's very interesting that when we talk about these processes,

02:09:27.360 so what could coax mean as preference over to trial or what have you?

02:09:33.360 And then destruction. And I, you know, again, the removal of the runes, which is alluded to in A.L. Scala Grimason's saga in relation, there was a testament in there where he does healing runes on a whalebone after he looks at the runes that were written on them by another person.

02:09:53.900 and he realizes that they were written wrongly and that so that there is a definitive context

02:10:00.200 that there is a definitive sense in which the runes are utilized um that there isn't a kind

02:10:06.420 of relativism to the runes when he reads them when he reads the bone he says these are written

02:10:11.860 wrongly and these are the cause of your further illness it's not the illness itself anymore it's

02:10:18.040 just the prolonging because of this so he he destroys those runes by carving them off into

02:10:24.540 the fire and then he carves new runes and bloods them sings their songs and then places the whale

02:10:33.560 bone under her bed to which she then is healed or cured and um i think that's again uh lending

02:10:43.040 towards the idea that the runic there is a a runic kind of a substantiation of right and wrong

02:10:51.360 um in relation to and i think this this uh really kind of lends to it as well as is knowing how to

02:10:58.960 do these proper steps in order to create the power of the runes versus not knowing how to do them and

02:11:05.400 not having the full knowledge um perhaps causing more harm or at least not getting the results or

02:11:11.820 the desired sense of wisdom or things that you're trying to attain from them.

02:11:16.440 And I think that's why these questions are being posed is that, you know,

02:11:20.800 do you want the runes to, you know, to bid their power?

02:11:27.040 Then do you know how to write them? Do you know how to, you know,

02:11:29.460 to counsel them and so on and so forth.

02:11:31.780 So this is kind of setting context that the runes aren't relative.

02:11:36.280 the mystery of them

02:11:39.820 in and of themselves, though, leads us

02:11:41.700 to down that path in a lot

02:11:43.940 of different ways, as we were talking about before

02:11:45.700 with the 18 runes and 19

02:11:47.940 runes and

02:11:48.900 the elder Futharks and the younger

02:11:51.600 Futharks, etc.

02:11:53.600 Okay, we will

02:11:54.720 we will get

02:11:57.940 to more of

02:11:59.980 this here in a minute. I make no

02:12:01.680 promise that we are

02:12:03.860 going to get all the way through them,

02:12:05.520 but we will get into them here in just a minute i want to also mention though that um we talk

02:12:12.600 about the different runic systems some of these have developed at a later period because of

02:12:20.000 necessity of linguistics and writing they've developed they've evolved the system that we

02:12:26.760 are most familiar with is what's called the elder futhark and svan and i've done shows on that but

02:12:34.580 happy to you know answer any questions that that might come about um that's the one we're most

02:12:40.980 familiar with and that is the one that i think lends itself the best to galder work when it comes to

02:12:52.900 chanting or intoning certainly in the way that i do that

02:12:56.980 each of these armin and runes has a cognate rune in the elder futhark system so as much as i

02:13:07.100 see and respect the wisdom of the armin and runes when i want to sing these songs or these spells

02:13:14.940 in a sung way i sing them in their the way they come to us in the elder futhark because they

02:13:25.300 work better in intoning vibration and all of this is a lot you don't need to know all of this to

02:13:33.260 to read this piece of our lore but it's it's stuff that i think is valuable to add

02:13:38.440 so much when it talks about songs or singing the rooms to me has to do with galder work

02:13:45.200 and it has to do with vibration and what it has to do is really has a lot to do with holding those

02:13:51.700 vowel sounds and i think that works best in the elder food art or certainly that works best for

02:13:59.780 me and that in the elder truth arc the younger it's hard for me to see that development as much

02:14:07.780 more than a linguistic development with different sounds that were developed in as the language

02:14:13.220 evolved. Similarly with most of the Anglo-Saxon Futhark, except for the mysterious Northumbrian

02:14:27.400 Grail Roam, so we can talk about them at a later time. But for esoteric value, I think the Elder

02:14:34.080 Futhark and the Arminen are the system that are the most directly linked to magical practice.

02:14:40.620 although the medieval spells that you might see written in runes

02:14:45.280 were most assuredly written in younger folk.

02:14:51.700 But I hope that enlightens more than it confuses.

02:14:58.140 That being said, would you take us through 145, please?

02:15:04.340 Yes.

02:15:05.120 So this is, again, an interesting one.

02:15:08.440 Better no prayer than too big an offering

02:15:12.200 By thy getting measure thy gift

02:15:14.540 Better is none than too big a sacrifice

02:15:17.580 So Thund of old wrote 0.94

02:15:20.840 Ere man's race began

02:15:23.000 Where he rose on high

02:15:25.240 When home he came

02:15:27.040 The reference here of

02:15:36.360 um, again, giving properly as opposed to giving over much better, no prayer than too big an

02:15:45.860 offering, uh, by thy getting measure thy gift. So does this, there's been a lot of turmoil around

02:15:58.960 this stanza in relation to is this implying again towards the runes or was this an addition added

02:16:09.260 in is this a oftentimes what you'll hear is interpolation is kind of the the scholastic

02:16:15.580 word that's thrown around is you know is this in reference to and i this again

02:16:23.900 i i i would say like let's look at it in context to the runes better no prayer than too big big

02:16:35.420 an offering by getting the measure of that gift so basically i've always taken this as the it is

02:16:42.900 it is better to give nothing or to interact or to sacrifice to or or create in uh usage of

02:16:51.320 um it is better not to do that at all than to do it over much because again learning the the gift

02:16:59.340 of wisdom the gift of understanding things brings you know great sorrow so the um

02:17:07.980 the idea again is like you know don't give if you don't understand what you are getting into

02:17:16.840 Because if you give nothing, if you do no offering, then you will not get the receiving end of those things, which is often, again, in large amounts, over-knowledge and over-understanding.

02:17:31.900 Now, I'm just contextualizing this with the runes in relation to the other stanzas, but some people have argued that this doesn't, and it was kind of interpolated in.

02:17:41.080 uh the other mystery of this is is thund of old so um thunder of course means strength

02:17:50.300 and the who thund is is an interesting most people would immediately go towards

02:17:57.620 um lord odin but there's just some interesting usage of the words uh fioda or the people of

02:18:07.240 yore um or the the fioda is like theod the nation of yore the origin nation and uh some people have

02:18:16.920 again um alluded to the idea that this might be another name for heimdall air man's race began

02:18:25.000 but that adds again more to that and we've mentioned and talked about that before with the

02:18:31.240 the Heimdall and Odin argument or notion.

02:18:38.680 A lot of people take Thund to be Lord Odin, though.

02:18:44.200 But again, it's just interesting to look into

02:18:46.820 and come to some conclusions on your own.

02:18:49.960 But as far as its placement, it doesn't sit completely.

02:19:01.240 and um let me see here you um i might i have to be excused for just one moment

02:19:16.120 to deal with my son no no problem good luck with that tell him i said good night

02:19:20.920 I think a lot of this, both the previous stanzas and this current one we're on, are perhaps imperfect ways of communicating to us to take

02:19:50.920 To take the runes seriously.

02:19:57.920 That's a big thing.

02:20:01.740 And I think that one thing folks who are new run the risk of doing,

02:20:07.440 and I advise against all the time on here,

02:20:10.320 but it's worth considering here, especially with all the warnings.

02:20:14.500 I always advise against making perfect the enemy of good.

02:20:20.920 It's very easy to not know for sure and not want to mess up so you don't take those steps.

02:20:39.900 And I think we've all, if you're pious and you're doing this with a reverence, it's very easy to do that and be intimidated on it.

02:20:48.340 and i think that um i don't think it should prevent you from doing things i don't think you

02:20:59.780 need to do this perfectly to make use but i think you need to be cautious in general i think when

02:21:08.260 you are dealing with forces beyond your beyond your power and your dominion and you are trying

02:21:16.580 to call them into play for whatever purposes. There is a pious and respectful way to do it

02:21:24.820 that carries a lot of the right things. It doesn't have to be perfect, but it does have to be well

02:21:33.920 intended. It does have to be informed by authentic wisdom and authentic intention and not frivolity

02:21:42.300 and selliness and so much of the efficacy comes from if you're well grounded in it and you have

02:21:50.380 a background in it um so i would say start slow in making use of the runes and understand them

02:21:59.500 use them sparingly and make the things that you use them for important show a certain amount of

02:22:06.940 respect towards that um and i think that's a lot of the advice in these two stanzas in particular

02:22:14.700 is like take it serious um spawn already talked about the the episode in a yield saga about you

02:22:25.100 know somebody who didn't know what they're doing causing more harm than than healing with their

02:22:31.980 attempt at healing rooms so don't get cocky and always stay stay pious and stay cautious and very

02:22:45.420 intentional in your room work is is the advice that i would give and i think that these stanzas

02:22:52.780 are trying to make sink in.

02:22:58.380 Svan has returned.

02:22:59.720 It appears he won his battle.

02:23:03.340 He is in return victorious.

02:23:06.400 Yeah, I saw a question just as I sat down

02:23:09.100 that Mike said, you know,

02:23:12.140 if Lord Othen perished in his quest

02:23:14.180 for the knowledge of the runes,

02:23:18.260 would he have not given too much?

02:23:19.420 Well, it's worth, again, like noting that the wording is that the gift will compare to the giving, if you will.

02:23:29.840 And I think that's the paradox of a divine being, non-biological, divine, powerful, god, aus, interconnecting with that and sacrificing everything in order to see the strata of all is the equivalency.

02:23:54.240 And it's never stated that in seizing the runes and he uses the runes to return unto himself or that he returns unto himself because he is a god.

02:24:07.500 It is, I think, just worth noting that the gift is equal to the giving.

02:24:17.520 And in essence, he sacrifices himself to gain the runes, the gift themselves.

02:24:23.120 And then he doesn't perish. So the equilibrium there is still there is that in order to glimpse the very fabric of the vibrational patterns and of all of all the in between the roots of the tree, he had to cease to be as he is perhaps far greater than than we can conceive and then return again with that knowledge.

02:24:51.240 I would say, I don't think he over gave per se. And it doesn't necessarily say that it's,

02:24:56.620 it's, it's kind of like saying it's better to ask for too little than too much because rewards are

02:25:02.580 always comparable, um, to the gift. So it is, it is, is better not to make too much sacrifice

02:25:10.860 than to over sacrifice. Um, because again, the, the, the compliance of the reward is,

02:25:19.400 is often, you know, what you're receiving, um, maybe, maybe much or over much, uh, depending

02:25:31.180 on, and again, I think this alludes to the idea of being over wise or over, over understanding

02:25:37.620 of things brings sorrow, sadness, wisdom brings, um, an understanding that holds a lot of weight

02:25:44.560 to it all right with that we will start to learn odin's room songs

02:25:55.280 it's fine can you take us through 146 please

02:26:03.760 yes so 146 better uh let me oh wait a minute i'm minor minor off

02:26:12.080 huh um i was looking at bellows translation on another page and um the numbers are off that's

02:26:24.400 interesting um so 146 the songs i know and the word liov meaning songs this is referenced earlier

02:26:37.760 with like Fimbalioth as the terrible singer. 0.98

02:26:43.160 So Lioth are kind of, again,

02:26:44.680 there's been speculation on the usage of the word Lioth versus Rune

02:26:50.180 or what that might mean.

02:26:54.680 So the songs I know that king's wives know not,

02:26:59.820 nor men that are sons of men.

02:27:02.880 The first is called help,

02:27:04.600 and help it can bring thee

02:27:07.000 in sorrow and

02:27:09.100 pain and sickness.

02:27:15.140 Of course, this is in reference

02:27:18.880 to the first rune.

02:27:20.960 Presumably, I mean, again, we're

02:27:22.800 following based off of the tract of

02:27:24.680 both the younger

02:27:26.800 Futhark, whether we're talking

02:27:28.760 about the younger Futhark in and of itself,

02:27:30.500 if we're talking about the runic

02:27:32.720 calendar with its 19 runes. If I'm talking about the Armanin, the first rune is Fae. Fae is

02:27:42.600 equivalent to Faehu, Faeo in the Anglo-Saxon. It is the rune of bounty, the rune of plenty,

02:27:51.900 the rune of of warmth and growth so feo or fey being this i think is quite fitting um

02:28:05.420 i think it's interesting that you know the songs i know that king's wives know not

02:28:10.680 nor men that are the sons of men i always found that um

02:28:15.960 interesting and uh again the word king is not mentioned it's theodhan's

02:28:23.640 quona so it's the the the women of the people or the daughters of and i think that's in the

02:28:32.080 old norse would have a better under better context it would be you know that i know the

02:28:38.060 songs that the daughters of the of the folk or the daughters of the people or the daughters of

02:28:44.140 of generations do not know nor do the the generations of men um no and the first is called help

02:28:54.700 help

02:28:57.900 quite directly um the word

02:29:03.820 um yeah i

02:29:07.180 trying to the the translation is odd and i think bellows translates it in a way that

02:29:14.140 that's a little bit different than other translations i've seen but

02:29:22.060 that's just for the little lead-in portion the

02:29:26.180 the help having to do with the mystery of fehu or fa

02:29:32.960 is interesting it's all of those things it's energy and abundance and

02:29:42.280 mobile or circulating

02:29:47.040 wealth in terms of however you want to take that

02:29:52.700 in a literal wealth sense, but certainly also in a

02:29:56.800 circulation of power, circulation of

02:29:59.080 vital energy, but a circulation

02:30:04.380 and I think that's extremely important.

02:30:12.280 Yeah. And I don't know how, uh, you know, certainly let's jump in if there's stuff to offer, but if there's not, let's just kind of go through some of these. If you go ahead with, uh, 147.

02:30:28.160 Yeah, this is an interesting one, mainly because Bellows kind of, you know, remarks about the manuscript in relation to 147 and the usage of it being missing.

02:30:58.160 and incomplete in the passage uh and you know again referring to this part as leo the tall

02:31:06.140 or the song um this the rune song uh section of the album all um but hollander offers an

02:31:16.620 interesting translation and i wanted to kind of compare that because there's two lines missing

02:31:21.660 here uh 147 a second i know that men shall need who leech craft long to use and there's two blanks

02:31:31.740 but here is an interesting uh hollander um on the bark scratch them of bowl in the woods

02:31:42.220 upon the bows that bend towards the east

02:31:45.420 um bows of course meaning like uh or bows excuse me um like uh the branches um and i find that

02:31:55.600 really really interesting because that that isn't really uh in any of the other translations and now

02:32:02.280 i i want to know where hollander you know got that um but the biggest thing to understand is

02:32:11.780 the the word leeches leechcraft leak leechcraft is um and again it's utilized in old norse it's

02:32:19.900 utilized in anglo-saxon um is absolutely 100 medicinal uses um the word in old norse is is a

02:32:31.300 like not like not is like again the the medicinal arts and the reason why this goes all the way

02:32:40.500 back if anybody's familiar with languages the in in gutanish or gothic there is also

02:32:47.700 the use of the word leech or leak and that those two words in specifics have context to medicine

02:32:57.300 the leak the garlic the onion and the usage of it most likely in the form of of of soup or or a broth

02:33:08.500 baths um clearly have the healing context of these herbs are in relation to healing in and

02:33:17.420 of itself and of course to the body being called the the lich or the leak um all of these having

02:33:25.300 kind of context to each other so if anybody's confused about why the why are they talking about

02:33:30.480 the like blood sucking worms that was used in medicinal practices but that was they were named

02:33:36.840 And because of their use far later on, the word leech itself meant medicinal or the usage of medicine and the art of it.

02:33:49.100 So this, of course, being the rune Uruz, if we're talking for one for one, and again, the rune of vitality and strength, this seems to fit quite straightforward.

02:34:07.240 it really does and um so i'll interject little pieces here when i

02:34:17.800 i have

02:34:20.760 when people have asked me to do healing um healing rites on them or healing rituals

02:34:28.760 this has always been my go-to room sometimes i will incorporate others

02:34:33.560 into a runic sequence but ur or urus this rune of primal strength of primal vitality and health

02:34:48.820 of the aurochs um it's powerful it's

02:34:57.860 kind of universally accepted as as being a healing rune and

02:35:08.020 i have found it to be effective in the times that i've made use of it in ritual it has worked well

02:35:15.300 for me in that sense um yeah and i think it's extremely powerful um like we've mentioned before

02:35:24.740 it's the the rune of the aurochs it was really cool when i visited the national museum in

02:35:32.420 copenhagen denmark um it's awesome because they don't like lock everything up and make it

02:35:38.420 inaccessible to people so i stumbled upon kind of at random there in their uh prehistoric section

02:35:50.900 this skeleton of a young aurochs that was i guess fat drowned in a bog and it uh was preserved

02:35:58.980 and it was you know a down time at the museum and nobody else was around and i was able to

02:36:04.500 To grab, you know, not, but to touch this aurochs skull and to galder urus into looking into the eye sockets of this aurochs skull.

02:36:25.000 And it was really, I don't know, revitalizing.

02:36:28.920 It was a really neat experience.

02:36:30.440 But yeah, Uru's the rune for healers.

02:37:00.440 let's see a third i know if great is my need of fetters to hold my foes

02:37:13.000 blunt do i make my enemy's blade nor bites his sword or staff

02:37:18.920 this is truly an interesting one i i find the usage of these words to be a little bit odd

02:37:35.900 um one thing that's worth noting is that the the word blade or sword is not used in the old norse

02:37:43.900 The word valpen, which means weapon, and velar is kind of an interesting one in and of itself, item, artifact, or, I don't know, again, direct usage towards a staff is kind of interesting.

02:38:01.900 But the meaning of it is still the same, is that it blunts and it bars the usage of the weapons of your foes.

02:38:14.200 This is a, again, the third song in great need.

02:38:21.280 If I need to fetter, fetter meaning to lock or to tighten or to bind.

02:38:28.680 I bind my foes, I blunt their blades, and I make their weapons useless.

02:38:35.680 And this, of course, lends towards the rune, Thurizaz, the thorn rune.

02:38:42.640 and um and the the thirst rune or the the the troll rune sometimes it is referred to um

02:38:54.320 this this rune has generally an offensive sense so one of the interesting things about it is the

02:39:00.560 blunting and the the binding um but it's worth noting that the thorn that's used uh to put uh

02:39:12.640 brunhildr to sleep and or the thorn that kind of pins something down so a thorn isn't always seen

02:39:22.960 strictly as an offensive thing but as a thing that kind of in makes innate or i'm inert or

02:39:29.440 make something suddenly you know inactive is clearly in the lore as well so it doesn't always

02:39:38.560 have to be i've seen people like argue or not argue but just kind of context this that it's

02:39:44.160 odd that it's used in a sense of defense or a sense of binding but if you look at it as a sense

02:39:49.980 of being able to pin your foe or lock them into inertion and also make that which they're holding

02:39:57.180 inert it does have context especially with thorn symbology elsewhere in our lore

02:40:05.740 um did you want to move to the next uh yeah sorry guys i'm trying to hunt down a

02:40:24.780 a picture while we're going through this so if i'm looking odd into the camera that's why i'm

02:40:32.140 trying to search and see where I've hidden it. Um, yeah, let's go ahead and, and move on to the

02:40:38.800 next one. I'd like to get done with at least the first six tonight. Um, and kind of see where we're

02:40:46.840 at. So 149 lends to the fourth song, a fourth. I know if men shall fasten bonds on my bended legs.

02:40:59.980 so great is the charm that forth I may go

02:41:03.520 the fetters spring from my feet

02:41:05.860 broken the bonds from my hands

02:41:08.800 this speaks of the song

02:41:12.840 and the fourth rune

02:41:16.760 is correlated to it

02:41:18.780 is Ansus

02:41:20.040 this is again interesting because

02:41:24.700 context of Ansus in

02:41:28.140 other futharks and other meanings um has very little connection to the freeing of fetters or

02:41:37.380 bonds um some people simply take this as another form of in which it can exude um or that one of

02:41:48.760 the biggest things that is mentioned about um lord odin in context to fetters is he is the binder

02:41:55.020 and the freer of fetters and so there is a connection between ansus and odin and odin

02:42:04.200 and binding and freeing so perhaps there is a context here um that's linked um this

02:42:13.120 rune is is being spoken of as in its uses or excuse me this song is being spoken as in its

02:42:21.140 usage, it has the ability to free or unbind the fetters of the legs and the arms. And that

02:42:35.160 correspondent rune is onsous um 150 so a thing on uh onsous for a second and it's very very

02:42:52.300 interesting and i think the i think um some of the meanings of it are really deep with the idea

02:43:04.620 that the rune for Odin specifically but for the gods generally is one of freeing from fetters,

02:43:21.440 breaking you out of limitations and things that bind you the key to that being our gods and

02:43:34.780 another thing when you look at rooms that derive off of us and stem off of this it also has

02:43:41.200 the connection to the mouth or to the estuary,

02:43:48.440 the speaking, the projection of voice

02:43:52.360 breaking you free from things.

02:43:56.020 And I think there's something to be said about that

02:43:59.740 when voice so specifically

02:44:08.940 basically has to do with being one of the root pieces of magic, speaking something into existence,

02:44:24.800 incantation, the idea of taking thought and things from your head and manifesting it into the world

02:44:34.960 is very freeing it liberates it liberates things that are often trapped inside and you are able to

02:44:46.480 free them into the world by speaking them into existence so i think that there is a relevancy

02:44:55.340 to to speaking and to to the magical power of voice but i think most profoundly obviously is

02:45:03.880 connection to the all father but that's it we can go on to number 50 or 150 now if you'd like

02:45:16.760 i was reading some of the um comments and uh

02:45:22.280 just kind of going trying to go back because again i'm on separate screens so i have to go back and

02:45:26.600 kind of like scroll back to look at some of the questions and then kind of pull pull back out again

02:45:32.040 uh let's see 151 a sixth i know if harm one seeks with a sapling's roots to send me

02:45:44.660 the hero himself who wreaks his hate shall taste the ill ere i

02:45:51.080 oh did i i thought it was at 151 i'm sorry i did it again

02:45:59.720 ah excuse me yeah i should have known sorry right uh right uh rauv the the rune rauv in the younger

02:46:10.680 futhark um raido is 150 the correspondence a fifth i know if i see from afar an arrow fly

02:46:21.700 against the folk it flies not so swift that i stop it not if ever my eyes behold it

02:46:32.820 and this again is the song speaking out about the ability to stop

02:46:43.540 an arrow from flying against um

02:46:48.020 And it is very interesting because it uses the word folk as opposed to perhaps, you know, I was thinking like a throng or an army or a host or a harrying group.

02:47:01.300 But it specifically says, you know, that if it flies against the folk, that I can stop it if I only lay my eyes upon it.

02:47:13.660 And that doesn't necessarily lend very well in, um, uh, Bellows's translation.

02:47:23.160 Um, yeah, sometimes, uh, people, let me see, I'm, I'm actually looking at one other thing is, um, the usage of the word arrow and spear.

02:47:39.660 uh yeah because neither spear or arrow is used uh sculpted is the word so very very interesting

02:47:57.720 i i would you know looking at that but um you know the the the usage of the idea is that the

02:48:04.880 fifth i know that you know if someone wounds uh or throws a spear into the throng never so fast

02:48:14.860 it flies but it's flight i can stay once my eye lights upon it um the idea of being able to glimpse

02:48:25.020 at the, whether it's a spear or an arrow, the offense towards the, the, um, the folk

02:48:33.880 or, um, Hollander's translation used the word throng, which is why, you know, instantly

02:48:38.880 started pinging off, you know, what exactly is, um, the usage.

02:48:45.080 And again, um, uh, okay, so there it goes.

02:48:51.600 So it can't be an arrow or – it can be an arrow or a spear because the usage of the word is shaft, the hafting of a shaft towards the folk, whether it would be a spear or an arrow.

02:49:06.140 I don't know why I needed to know that immediately, but I just got it.

02:49:12.200 Buddy.

02:49:13.540 Yeah, I just need – because the word doesn't make sense.

02:49:16.540 It isn't the word arrow, and it isn't the word spear.

02:49:20.640 so why choose the word arrow or spear well the word is that the shaft or the haft of a weapon

02:49:28.440 um thrown into the host or the folk it cannot fly so fast as that i can i can stop it if i catch

02:49:37.400 sight of it and just kind of it's to right movement sorry i was going to uh say the

02:49:45.900 correlation with Raido with movement and the idea of obstructing or the rune Raido is about movement

02:49:59.220 and about the proper movement of things in the universe. And to be able to either obstruct or

02:50:08.820 guide the movement of things i think is the connection that is uh related to this rune

02:50:15.540 and this poem absolutely um rhido being the right action at the right time i've talked a lot about

02:50:25.780 one of the key elements in i don't know the art of living but very specifically in terms of

02:50:38.820 esoteric work and you know rivo is the room of our priesthood the idea of being in sync with

02:50:50.000 the flow of the universe with being um positioned correctly within weird gives you a

02:50:59.300 it allows you to see synchronicities and things coming towards you it allows you to have a sense

02:51:07.900 of what goes on around you and i think that is a lot of the key to anticipating

02:51:18.320 um the assaults of your enemy

02:51:23.820 seeing them and reacting to them before before they make impact because the more you

02:51:34.220 in tune your life with the right flow of things and the flow of weird the more you are able to

02:51:44.140 see or feel things coming and brace yourself or step aside or do whatever might be necessary

02:51:54.740 to avoid those things so the idea of being part of that flow of

02:52:00.180 synchronicity of seeing what's coming and perceiving things before they hit

02:52:07.280 is very important to that. And I think that's a part of that mystery.

02:52:11.060 i'm still on the what i we're moving to 151 and i'm this is the one i jumped to and again

02:52:31.960 the usage of a word is is driving me insane

02:52:34.940 That's okay

02:52:38.340 This is the last one we're going to cover tonight

02:52:40.740 Okay, so

02:52:42.300 This last one, again

02:52:45.860 Has another runic mystery

02:52:48.000 That a lot of people

02:52:48.940 Contend in different camps

02:52:52.280 When it comes to this

02:52:53.240 I think this is one of the first

02:52:54.760 Really, truly controversial runes

02:52:57.400 If you will

02:52:58.060 But let's go

02:53:01.400 Correspondence is

02:53:03.180 the is khan khan in the younger futhark and that's the reason why i'm using those runic names as

02:53:10.960 opposed to kenna's um because again contexting this to the old norse um a sixth i know if harm

02:53:19.600 one seeks with a sapling's roots to send me the hero himself who wreaks his hate shall taste the

02:53:28.420 ill not i or air i is what he says but not i now this has a little bit of context to understand

02:53:37.860 with the saplings roots to send me this is most likely referring to the usage of roots and branches

02:53:47.620 in relation to uh beneficial spells uh again runic usage uh and it's so funny because i'm

02:53:59.260 thinking like some of the audience might not understand like how the runes kind of correspond

02:54:03.260 i think we have brought much of the divinity usage of the runes but i think there is a like

02:54:12.620 like imply applying it to our to our piety and to our worship but the usage of runes on a secondary

02:54:20.300 sense was that it was clearly connected to the works of magics and uh kind of has almost its own

02:54:29.280 mysteries within the religion itself um or some would argue maybe it's not within the religion

02:54:35.460 but kind of a subtext um but the with a saplings roots to send me this is more or less speaking of

02:54:46.500 casting of of a curse or or uh something of ill the usage of roots as opposed to the

02:54:54.180 the light touched boughs the dark under roots the things that that bind the things that

02:54:59.780 it hold so carving these runes upon the root or carving the curses upon the root and sending it

02:55:08.020 the the person who knows this song will not be harmed but will return the hard

02:55:18.900 is what this uh stanza is basically saying

02:55:21.940 so this again corresponds to the rune korn or kenna's and if you look at kenna's a lot of folks

02:55:31.900 today and most most people i think uh relate this rune to the torch in the anglo-saxon but

02:55:40.380 in the younger futhark and in the gothic language this rune is called in the gothic language it's

02:55:49.940 is called Kusma. Kusma means a bump, a boil, or a brand, a sore. And again, this alludes the same

02:56:00.240 in the Younger Futhark, in which it is mentioned as the house of rotting flesh and the baleful

02:56:09.400 sickness beneath the roof um so this this does have uh this rune has a lot of connotations towards

02:56:20.280 curse sickness and again though the usage of the blister or the boil as being a product of that

02:56:28.440 that maleficent energy is often correlated.

02:56:34.320 The idea of being bit or shot or wounded by this magic

02:56:41.240 and then it manifesting a physical bump

02:56:45.020 is clearly established in relation to the lore of this.

02:56:50.740 It's funny because most people think of kenos,

02:56:53.040 they think of the torch, they think of creation,

02:56:55.120 and that mainly comes from the Anglo-Saxon.

02:56:58.440 you know, theater of this rune. The others, it talks predominantly about

02:57:06.340 the baleful flesh and the wound. I think it's also worth noting, though, that the torch and

02:57:12.560 the brand or boil, again, are associations with heat and with energy and with transformation and

02:57:19.920 change. But in this case, it's specifically honing in on if somebody curses at you, you

02:57:26.060 turn it against them

02:57:28.300 and they get the curse they try to send

02:57:30.380 on you.

02:57:36.220 Alright, now I think

02:57:37.480 we've digested quite

02:57:40.260 a bit. I think tonight

02:57:42.300 we've made a good chunk

02:57:47.860 of the way through. This is one third

02:57:50.200 of the way through the

02:57:51.700 Rune Songs

02:57:53.100 and from

02:57:55.820 here I'd like to go ahead and get to the get to the extra questions that we have and see you see

02:58:04.940 where that takes us so let's see what we haven't answered yet here one second all right so way back

02:58:20.060 when we've got got a question from avocado toast if you guys tried partnering with the Midwest

02:58:30.260 food bank the NGO I work with gets most of our supplies from them they help smaller NGOs provide

02:58:37.700 food to local charities and stuff like that I Midwest is a broad thing I would ask like where

02:58:48.200 is that located it's certainly something we can look into if it uh helps the areas we need one of

02:58:53.800 the things one of the realities of of doing this from our hoffs and our hoffs are are what allow

02:59:03.320 us to do it it's a physical location to make these things happen but it means that the food charities

02:59:10.520 need to service that area and be a source in that area so if it's widespread and there's an outlet

02:59:20.120 near murdoch minnesota i think that's the only of our hoffs that would kind of fit that category

02:59:28.600 but if it's near one of our hoffs we'd absolutely love to look into something like that if you know

02:59:32.760 more please let me know um so we also have a question from finn wraith and this is back when

02:59:44.760 we were talking about offerings i was following one somebody had asked a question about what if

02:59:50.600 you didn't want to offer alcohol maybe you wanted to offer juice and he says what about offering

02:59:55.720 something that has a fam a family history like what if i offered the juice my grandmother used

03:00:01.880 to make i think that is i think that is the best um if you and it's meaningful as an offering to

03:00:11.080 the gods it's perhaps even more so offering to one of your ancestors if you have something that

03:00:19.160 you know one of your ancestors cared for or that was special to you and your family or special to

03:00:25.560 an experience you had with them that's the that's the best choice of the liquid to make offerings

03:00:32.760 with if you're offering to the gods and your family you know has long been involved in you

03:00:40.440 guys got some special family drink you guys do i think that's also a really really good choice

03:00:48.200 the gods don't need to get buzzed off of you know whatever beverage we're providing them that's not

03:00:54.280 the point the point is that we're offering them something that's thoughtful and that's special

03:00:59.720 and that brings honor to them giving them something that has a deep meaning to you

03:01:05.400 i think fundamentally is a better tool to imbue with your spiritual might in that offering that's

03:01:16.200 that's what we want from the i say we that's what the gods get from the offering is that spiritual

03:01:21.640 might be put into it the thought the love the intention the worship the energy from yourself

03:01:29.560 that you can generate and send and that's done in a really special way if it's it's something

03:01:37.480 that's special to whoever you're offering it to or something that is very special to you and where

03:01:43.000 you come from so i think that's the ultimate i think that's the best choice

03:01:47.720 um so this one i'll let you go ahead and take a take a swing at here swan um

03:01:59.160 it's a question to both of us from uh lydia can you both talk about weird and its original meaning

03:02:10.440 so could you give people kind of the primer into that if they haven't heard it

03:02:16.280 before and then you know kind of narrow into weird question

03:02:21.480 yeah weird and the word orlaw in old norse are in essence the same word uh one is anglo-saxon

03:02:34.200 in origin the other is old norse in origin and it they they both lend towards the idea of

03:02:41.960 The starting of things in the past, all actions, all deeds, and their interactions with each other has created, in essence, a ripple effect of actions, reactions, and a sense of destiny is filled out in this way from the origin.

03:03:04.460 um but it has expounded over the years and in modern sense that these two words kind of are

03:03:11.920 used interchangeably in our culture but they're also can can be seen as separate or perhaps

03:03:18.220 different words that fit for better dissection of such a broad thing so weird would be kind of seen

03:03:27.340 as the actions and the effects of things that we do in our life, the manifestation of our will

03:03:37.980 in the forward movement of us as individuals, everyone having this. Orlog is inherited

03:03:46.960 effect that's kind of brought about to you from multiple sources, and it's not just inherited

03:03:56.460 like say in the earthly sense of um you know the uh your your fathers though it can it does have

03:04:03.580 that context but it also has context towards the might and towards the luck and the uh the boon

03:04:12.760 given to your bloodline by your ancestors by the gods um or the bane and the bail that may have

03:04:22.160 befallen on um people before you perhaps if they were marked by the gods befitting of doom

03:04:30.980 that this kind of creates this uh gulf that you have to kind of cross um it's an essence of the

03:04:39.240 inheritance of many many factors the culmination of weird leading up to you and then weird itself

03:04:47.260 is kind of like your part in the or log to come for those that are descended from you if you will

03:04:55.420 is the best way to kind of look at it but i can understand the confusion because they are used

03:05:01.040 interchangeably and there is a lot of you know again why don't we just use or law why don't we

03:05:06.860 just use weird is again because we use english words and we use old norse words and and they now

03:05:12.000 have kind of been contextualized to better fit certain things but it is fate mixed with your will

03:05:21.360 and then also the ultimate results of that and it originates from the nornir the the nornir

03:05:32.460 at the well earth's well is that origination point of it is the or law the the the origination

03:05:41.340 point of flowing and it flows out and through and weird is i would say like the individual

03:05:47.820 and it and their actions that create the or law for the future

03:05:58.460 yeah i'm trying to think of what all

03:06:03.820 what all would be added um

03:06:05.420 Um, yeah, it means fate.

03:06:09.420 It means, um, the woven tapestry of cause and effect.

03:06:22.420 That's a heavy, a heavy part of it.

03:06:25.580 Also, destiny and peace is set into place by the gods, by your ancestors, and by, you know, willful actions that you've taken.

03:06:39.500 um but it very it very much has to do with

03:06:45.260 the web of fate as it affects

03:06:55.920 the cause

03:07:00.560 so and i'm trying to think of the way to to do this um when i do a runic pull for a naming ceremony

03:07:14.720 i pull a rune representing

03:07:20.640 that which predates the child they draw a room representing

03:07:26.240 the present circumstance in that child's life and not just the present present but that child's

03:07:37.460 present as that child progresses through the early stages excuse me of their life and then

03:07:44.680 I draw one from another school and the idea is it's what should happen not what will happen

03:07:54.580 not what must happen but a directionality based on these other elements of weird interacting

03:08:03.380 and interweaving with one another and i know that's an imprecise way to describe it but

03:08:12.900 past action destiny in the course that you're set on which we've come to

03:08:18.260 term your initial hand you're dealt as orlogged and then the development of that through your

03:08:29.460 life the tapestry that you weave through your actions through your intentions and your alignments

03:08:35.940 as weird fundamentally the same word but we tend to refer to the one that way and the other the

03:08:42.420 next way so the first two runes of that pull the past and your present weave together a pattern

03:08:52.660 that goes into your future you can drastically alter that pattern if something ugly is developing

03:08:59.300 and you see it coming and you know the mystery of rhido and you want to stave off

03:09:04.980 that future and and have something better absolutely uh but fundamentally it's the way

03:09:16.180 events are woven to to bring you towards towards a destination and i think that's the closest we're

03:09:25.620 going to get we use it a lot to describe when we see moments of synchronicity it's like seeing the

03:09:32.420 the fibers in the web of weird.

03:09:37.200 And it's very much visually likened

03:09:40.180 to a tapestry being woven.

03:09:43.820 So when we see glimpses of that pattern,

03:09:48.180 when we see glimpses of, yeah, of patterning,

03:09:54.200 we refer to that as weird.

03:09:56.560 You know, it's one of those,

03:09:57.600 it's become kind of a joke,

03:10:01.320 also something serious amongst us is the law speaker always you know scolds folks if they use

03:10:07.480 weird casually but so we make it a distinction between because something is strange or odd or

03:10:16.920 whatnot we don't want to describe that as weird that sense of strangeness originally to our

03:10:21.960 ancestors meant something greater metaphysically it meant

03:10:26.840 a moment of synchronicity or a moment of something special taking place and

03:10:34.600 and drawing things together in a way seeing a glimpse of the pattern in the tapestry

03:10:39.840 wow that was very weird swan's encounter with you know the one-eyed homeless guy the the wolf of

03:10:48.720 um whatever that was that was weird it was weird in whatever sense of the word you want

03:10:56.660 use but very specifically was an appropriate use because that seemed to mean more than just the

03:11:03.620 casual sum of its parts that's i think the best that i've got to describe that

03:11:12.340 i just wanted to point out too um sometimes when you write the word weird um it comes out

03:11:18.980 if you're doing autocorrect or whatever it's it is the typical spelling but the spelling that's

03:11:24.260 most common in usage in our culture is w y r d um and the spelling of the old norse word is this is

03:11:35.220 our law the g is not fully um it's not it's not a hard g it's again referencing to the so it kind

03:11:48.020 of means the the primal it's referred to as the primal layers but it's the ancient law it's the

03:11:57.060 that which is started so again or our law has i think connections all the way back

03:12:03.540 to the source of the nornir and weird is that which we make and i made reference to the runes

03:12:10.420 if the the web or the bindings and the vibrations of all actions and all movement in the universe

03:12:18.020 are coalescing to create convergence with each other,

03:12:25.200 like a web, each being a strand connecting joints as we move.

03:12:30.860 The spaces in between that hold that structure

03:12:34.060 are the patterns that are created by those frequencies,

03:12:39.360 those vibrations, those movements.

03:12:41.280 that is the structure that i i believe the runes are in my closest summation of what that might be

03:12:52.140 but yeah again the spelling gets a lot of confusion just with the word weird but also

03:13:00.040 our law our law is is is one that you hear people generally say or log um and i just wanted to

03:13:07.680 cover that as well all right um next up we've got okay um this from Bruce you

03:13:26.780 spoke on Stephen Flowers slash Edward Orson what are your thoughts on his

03:13:31.780 books um swan if you'd like to go first um i mean i don't make any

03:13:45.460 i don't make any comments that deviate away from the value of his books i am a

03:13:53.540 I, I've been a practitioner of runic studies for a long time. Um, it was what got me into the faith.

03:14:03.740 It brought me to the faith. Um, and it was predominantly through, uh, Dr. Stephen Flowers

03:14:11.540 books under the pen name, Edward Thorson. Um, there are some, I can clearly see

03:14:18.900 perhaps he's placing them out there

03:14:21.960 i don't know to maybe to gain money you know the small little pamphlet books and things like that

03:14:29.540 but then there are other books that are of his arm immense value immense value um and one of my

03:14:37.660 favorites i think to give you a broad scope of runes just in general is actually rune lore

03:14:42.120 that book gives you a you are here on the map in relation to the runes it explains so much it's it

03:14:51.140 if you read this book and you know it gives you the understanding of what the calver stone is

03:14:58.680 versus the vat stenebrek day it gives you the idea of how the goths use their runes and how

03:15:04.120 the old norse use their runes the anglo-saxons and it's very very broad though it's not super

03:15:09.500 detailed and it doesn't go into the mysteries it just gives you everything you need to know

03:15:14.460 uh this like runes this is what you need to know between as far back as we know to right now and

03:15:21.900 that's a that's a great book but there's a lot of other books that futhark is a great one um

03:15:28.860 uh is it nine doors of midgard and at the well of weird um

03:15:32.780 um, are phenomenal books. So depending on what you're trying to do, what one book might be

03:15:41.080 dedicated toward divination. The other is dedicated towards, um, you know, carving and

03:15:47.060 projecting willful manifestation of, of the runes into your life. He covers a lot of that. Some

03:15:54.280 books he's put all of those together. So I'm a huge fan of them. I'm a huge fan of him and Nigel

03:15:59.360 penic those two are my my go-tos when it comes to runic studies yeah i think that um i think that

03:16:10.560 edrid is the foremost expert on runes i think he's the foremost rune master

03:16:21.040 certainly in modern times and you know i'm throwing it out there besides odin himself

03:16:29.360 i don't know that anyone else can claim to know more of the runes or more about the runes or be

03:16:37.600 a greater rune master than edward he has literally devoted his entire you know his life and his study

03:16:48.320 to exploration of the runes both scholastically and operatively since the 1970s

03:16:59.360 um and as far as i know continues to do so to this day

03:17:06.480 and i say that and that may seem like a ridiculous claim but

03:17:13.120 in one moment in time he is able to study and learn about and internalize and experiment with and

03:17:25.600 digest runic lore from across centuries across continents across languages in a way that

03:17:40.800 the runemasters of our ancient ancestors didn't have access to the internet has been a huge

03:17:48.440 advancement but just the collected scholastic works in the libraries that he's been a part of

03:17:55.720 he is a phd in germanic studies and like germanic languages and was an acting professor for a long

03:18:06.200 time in those fields um his work on rooms is basically the fundamental works that we have in

03:18:15.580 this day and age. The Secret of the Runes by Maestro Guido von Liszt, you know, what,

03:18:26.980 60, almost 70 years prior is, you know, was the definitive guide up to that point. Edred's

03:18:37.640 Uh, Uthark, Brunelor, Alu is another very good one, those are so, and the Nine Doors

03:18:54.520 of Midgard, those are so very, very good, and they're the best work that we have on

03:18:59.880 the subject um yeah i in others so here's the thing he has completely tried to incorporate

03:19:18.920 germanic and ancient nordic things into his

03:19:24.120 mind that he's written on a lot of different subjects that deviate from just the rooms

03:19:32.640 his room work is indispensable but he's written a lot of other good things um mysteries of the

03:19:40.400 goths is a really good one it's kind of an unsung one it's a little book but it was

03:19:45.380 really neat and i really liked it when i read it um yeah a lot of his stuff is really good

03:19:52.900 spawn mentioned he makes a lot of things lately that he would term books that are you know very

03:20:00.980 small little pamphlets so buyer beware look at the page count so you know what you're getting

03:20:06.340 they're not bad they're just they're just small um but yeah his his stuff is invaluable it's where

03:20:13.460 it's the source of most of our fundamental understanding to get involved in the rooms and

03:20:21.140 to understand them in an initial way so he is his contribution to runes and runic studies can't be

03:20:29.780 overstated and i'll say that um the next one's kind of an interesting one and i'm wondering if you have

03:20:42.500 might have more to add on this finwraith asks does the easter bunny have a pagan origin

03:20:49.220 and is it in any way

03:20:51.600 related to Ausitry?

03:20:53.200 What say you, Svon?

03:20:55.220 Yes.

03:20:57.400 And yes.

03:21:00.860 First and foremost,

03:21:01.980 I think that

03:21:03.220 it's a cultural

03:21:06.780 symbol that has lasted

03:21:11.040 through any context

03:21:13.460 of Christianity

03:21:17.100 that has been placed on it.

03:21:18.860 It's like Christianity clearly veneers itself over certain holy tides.

03:21:24.720 And the rabbit is, again, the symbol of the springtime, the time in which they start reproducing.

03:21:33.940 There is, you know, Hassan Pfeffer being kind of traditionally eaten in spring.

03:21:40.480 And it's, if you really, the one time in which you see them the most is at the dawn.

03:21:47.200 excuse me when the turning of the dark towards the light you see that the rabbits out there

03:21:53.180 i think it's it's again it's the um the word or the month for in the anglo-saxon was three milk

03:22:00.640 month and that doesn't you can't contextualize that in symbology and so you find other symbology

03:22:08.680 that's clearly pre-christian european and that is the rabbits and the eggs and then the you know

03:22:16.780 The rabbit kind of as a symbol of luck and as a symbol of bounty and the egg, too, as a symbol of bounty, as a symbol of protection, clearly did not come from a vacuum and did not come from Christianity, but came from the predecessing faith that they veneered over.

03:22:34.200 But it's not necessarily written. There's no sourcing that the Anglo-Saxons or the Nordic folk or the Central Europeans celebrated this time by dawning with rabbits.

03:22:50.500 but it's the same with like boughs of holly and the yule tree and the yule log these things aren't

03:22:59.560 really mentioned it is they're kind of unspokenly known and that's one of the coolest things about

03:23:06.840 them is because they could not be eradicated they could not be written out it's simply continued on

03:23:13.160 And that's the biggest course of it. So is the rabbit connected to Ausatru? Well, in the Ausatru Folk Assembly, we give honor to Ostara as a divine being.

03:23:31.540 And like Odin perhaps having symbology of the raven or the wolf or the horse, the rabbit is just as much a symbolic meaning to Ostara.

03:23:46.180 There is a subtle difference, of course, because of the primal nature of those animals in relation to Lord Odin and what that might mean, but the rabbit being a symbol of spring in relation to Ostra and her opening the gates to let the warmth forward is clearly there.

03:24:05.060 Same with the eggs because if you own chickens, which I do, yeah, they're laying because the daylight is getting longer and longer or the dawn is coming sooner and sooner.

03:24:17.740 So the egg is another great example of symbology connected to Ostara and her cosmological, you know, machinations.

03:24:30.880 We could pray to Ostara every day before the sun comes up, but this is the time that's really focused on what's happening, is the turning from winter tide to summer tide. 0.69

03:24:44.880 Yeah, ancestral memory.

03:24:46.620 Hunter Thayer really kind of keyed in on it.

03:24:49.500 Yeah, this is kind of cultural memory and ancestral memory, and they're so strong, they can't be stopped.

03:24:57.420 They can't be eradicated.

03:24:58.360 So they were just kind of melded in that the church saw it as being benign enough that they left it to be.

03:25:07.800 So it's a bit of a.

03:25:15.320 The answer is not pleasing.

03:25:18.500 So.

03:25:20.380 Is the Easter Bunny pagan in origin?

03:25:24.240 Absolutely.

03:25:24.660 you will not find the Easter Bunny

03:25:28.700 mentioned in the Gospels

03:25:30.420 it is not mentioned in the accounts of the

03:25:32.880 crucifixion the Easter Bunny didn't

03:25:34.760 like roll back the stone or find

03:25:36.900 so first

03:25:40.520 yes it is clearly pagan

03:25:42.460 because it is not

03:25:43.820 Jewish in origin

03:25:48.460 or like Greek Christian in origin 0.77

03:25:50.900 it's very obviously pagan

03:25:52.840 exactly where that's the question um yes uh svan you know covered it very thoroughly but we

03:26:01.920 we were give worship to the goddess uh ostara who is the the dawn goddess who is the the spring

03:26:10.380 goddess and in that way the fertility the waking up of new life goddess and

03:26:17.980 you see the european imagery of easter all having to do with that you see very little jesus you see

03:26:29.560 very lot very much a bunny with some colorful eggs and you see lambs jesus is is the lamb of god

03:26:38.340 perhaps but the lamb is also a potent symbol of new life the the rebirth of herds

03:26:49.940 so those symbols of of fecundity and rebirth we all know about the fecundity of rabbits

03:27:00.500 and their reputation for that and anybody who's in an area with a lot of rabbits you see them go

03:27:07.420 through cycles where they're just abundant a rabbit that lays eggs is you know the ultimate

03:27:17.200 mashup of of these symbols of of new life in the springtime um and yeah none of that

03:27:25.880 is remotely middle eastern or hebrew in origin at all um but then okay cool so where where did

03:27:36.640 come from and that's the part that's not pleasing there's no great like aha you see the easter bunny

03:27:46.080 is a holdover from you know this ancient bavarian festival of we don't have that in specifics of

03:27:53.920 exactly where the easter bunny comes from there's been a lot of speculation i know that uh jacob

03:28:00.960 grim had some ideas on it but there's never been a really conclusive origin story for the easter bunny

03:28:09.520 other than very early on in any kind of study about it it got kind of

03:28:18.000 pushed together with the goddess ostara as kind of her familiar her token animal that's seen with her

03:28:25.760 you know the raven is to oven as the bunny is to um ostara and that's

03:28:35.940 that's the closest that we've got but certainly any those symbols those european symbols of

03:28:44.380 fertility that's all also true whether you can find it in you know the eddas or not isn't the

03:28:52.360 point it's part of the folk religion of our ancestors certainly and it was such an important

03:28:58.120 part that it's the it's the holy tide that they were able to alter the least when they were

03:29:08.280 forcing conversion on our ancestors it remains with the anglicized version of the goddess that

03:29:15.340 was worshiped like that's the easiest thing to do is to change the name of something keep doing all

03:29:25.420 the same stuff we're just going to call it you know happy jesus time they couldn't even do that

03:29:31.960 with this holiday because it was so very ingrained i think that's a testament to the antiquity of the

03:29:37.860 worship and to the power that it had for our for our fold but you know a lot of that is is

03:29:46.360 reasoned speculation from the material that we have but there's no

03:29:50.680 i'm the city of you know brexit's garden there was this bunny one time in 765 and that's where

03:30:01.900 it comes from, but it is clearly a European, of European pagan origins. Our next question.

03:30:17.740 Okay. Viking Sharia has a question. Since this stands up, 148, and we should have gotten it 0.52

03:30:27.080 back then. I'm sorry, Viking Sharia. I did not see it at the time. I apologize. The fetters 1.00

03:30:33.660 and blunted blade rune song has a martial connection. I have a question. When looking

03:30:39.660 for martial arts training in rural areas, you find a lot of Christ is first karate type stuff.

03:30:46.320 Are there any states where you have groups of AFA members that practice and teach martial arts?

03:30:53.040 Thanks. What do you know of? So yes, there are places that AFA members have come together,

03:31:09.220 sometimes come together, do come together to do a little dabbling in martial arts here and there.

03:31:15.500 And it's something that I am absolutely going to do, assuming that I get my black belt in time. And I'm going to do this at Sigerheim when I move there with my family.

03:31:28.100 is those of us there who want to participate,

03:31:31.740 I'd like to instruct in Danzen Roo Jiu-Jitsu.

03:31:38.400 I'm getting close.

03:31:39.620 I got my brown belt.

03:31:40.660 I'm on it.

03:31:41.280 They keep kind of telling me any day now.

03:31:43.280 There's a variety of suggestions

03:31:47.080 of why we're taking our time with it.

03:31:49.980 But yeah, if I can accomplish that,

03:31:51.720 and I'm confident I will,

03:31:53.520 I'm certainly going to give it my all,

03:31:55.400 then I would like to instruct there.

03:31:58.100 Um, we have a, uh, also a dance and room martial arts, uh, ju jujitsu black belt in folk builder, Bobby Shotwell, who teaches, you know, a little something once a month at Thorshoff.

03:32:16.000 And that's been going for a few months now, and that's been kind of a cool thing people have participated in.

03:32:21.240 so there's a couple a couple little groups of people but i don't think we've got

03:32:27.000 a steady formal group of it going on as much as we would like to but i do see that changing in

03:32:33.320 the relatively near future do you know of anything i don't know on that's fun no you covered that i

03:32:41.000 mean uh the the jujitsu at thor's hof is i mean that's where i'm at so that is there i i you know

03:32:50.360 I think in the past, too, we've had people kind of do things perhaps at tournaments

03:32:58.980 and training at a school, and then they kind of reference it back, showing interest.

03:33:05.740 But as far as organizing, that seems to be it right now.

03:33:13.500 All right.

03:33:14.300 next and uh just to mention a great many of us um practice martial arts and study martial arts

03:33:22.340 independently um we're we're in a time where the af is overcoming the problem of distance we're to

03:33:32.260 a point of membership density now where we're able to have groups of people doing stuff together on

03:33:39.000 regular basis for these kind of things where in the past we're so spread out that that was

03:33:45.080 less available we see that with kids actually doing field trips now in the austral academy

03:33:51.160 our homeschool program we also see it with some of our our people kind of getting together and

03:34:00.280 going to the gym together training martial arts together getting those things figured out but

03:34:05.320 but that's still in the very early stages.

03:34:07.320 But a lot of us have been involved in martial arts

03:34:11.600 and continue to be.

03:34:13.980 We got a question from Nick.

03:34:16.280 Since we sort of assigned a rune

03:34:18.240 in Elder Futhark order to the Hoffs,

03:34:21.340 do you feel any part of those runes

03:34:23.220 have employed themselves at the specific Hoffs?

03:34:26.840 And if so, how might you see Rhydo applying to Freyshoff

03:34:31.840 and Kynas to Tiershoff?

03:34:35.320 No, not really. I don't know that I've seen those in overt ways. Part of it is the runic structure, the runes for mankind, the Elder Futhark, are the forces that have shaped our existence.

03:34:59.420 so it's thought that chanting a complete cycle of them or employing the totality of the futhark

03:35:06.940 is like restructuring or

03:35:12.700 building the world it's kind of a full

03:35:20.140 as opposed to a very specific room for very specific purpose

03:35:23.820 It's part of rebuilding the cosmos in the right way, rebuilding our cosmos in the right way, or aligning our cosmos with the right order of things.

03:35:37.080 assigning each of those runes to our hofs until we complete the futhark

03:35:43.880 is part of that process of rebuilding we're rebuilding the golden age within the the husk

03:35:51.660 of the wolf age that we live in we're rebuilding alsatru we're we're taking our part in that cycle

03:36:00.040 and that rebuilding that's much more what assigning those runes is about it's setting

03:36:06.360 up the uh setting up the chess board again and putting the pieces back on the table as it were

03:36:12.680 um specifically though i'll say with uh with keen eyes and uh tiershoff the idea of that torch of

03:36:22.520 inspiration lighting the way for what's possible and what our folk can do that's very much what

03:36:28.600 the intention is at siggerheim where tiershoff is going to be located it's very much something

03:36:35.480 were fully invested in and it was fortuitous and it was the last rune drawn in the uh

03:36:46.840 the rune draw that i did for the naming of the afa sword which is to be housed at tiershoff

03:36:51.880 in which we did um on the ground that will build tiershoff upon and that was i thought that was

03:36:59.400 auspicious spawn are you have you taken note of any runic connections with the hoffs that uh you

03:37:09.480 know have the rune order so far i mean i think that much of the follow of the other hoffs does

03:37:21.000 come from uh odin's hoff and and a lot of the ground that it broke um to kind of lend things

03:37:28.920 And, you know, Thorshoff being the, you know, needing the most kind of strength in a time of deficit and in some of the auspicious sense.

03:37:45.360 and then Baldershoff, you know, meeting great resistance

03:37:49.780 or having to fight and to make itself known and stand.

03:37:55.920 I mean, I think there's a loose kind of poetic sense to each room,

03:38:00.160 but that's just me finding, I think, finding patterns as we go.

03:38:06.940 As far as for Frazhoff, the correlation of,

03:38:14.140 I think the biggest thing for Freyshoff and Rav, the rune itself, is that connections to cycles.

03:38:23.680 There is a, you know, horses and cycles are definitely connected to Lord Frey,

03:38:28.560 especially in relation to the time of Charming of the Plow on to Freyfaxi.

03:38:34.240 That cycle right there, that arc is really, really important.

03:38:38.620 And as far as, again, Kenaz with Tirsoff, I think the light, the beacon, is being lit.

03:38:48.140 It is also kind of the central point of all the gods.

03:38:51.880 And as far as the list goes, so that temple being the beacon, the light, the standard that is, that will be Sigurheim, I think is important as well.

03:39:10.880 But that's just, again, like I said, me reading into patterns.

03:39:14.200 And so we haven't mentioned it on this show.

03:39:18.120 We talked about runes tonight.

03:39:19.420 I think it's worth reiterating.

03:39:21.880 And one of the special things about runes is they serve as a lens to see weird through.

03:39:34.140 because our tendency to pick out patterns if we go into a hoff scenario with a rune in mind

03:39:48.820 it helps us frame things in those terms and it helps us to think runically and to align our

03:39:56.540 thoughts with the structure of the universe in a special way so that's not illegitimate

03:40:03.900 it is a completely legitimate use of runes

03:40:09.420 it's just not you know everything's a sign from the gods it's you attuning yourself

03:40:17.180 to weird to where you're seeing it you're seeing life and the world that you live in

03:40:21.980 through a runic lens and that's completely appropriate thing to do and it's really kind

03:40:27.660 of a special thing to do um avocado toast says oh and also uh she thanked us for our answer about

03:40:37.580 rune or about a weird rather um i'm glad i hope it made sense uh it's it's kind of a confusing

03:40:46.060 thing to fully you know to fully grasp for all of us so i hope that was useful uh she says how

03:40:53.100 have you built the courage to be so open and public about your faith the world is so hostile

03:40:58.780 and woke now and it feels scary to publicly go against the grain i have so much respect for you

03:41:04.540 guys first thank you very much for that appreciate it um first i'm not gonna lie it it can be scary

03:41:15.100 um one of the really important values in also true is having the courage to do the

03:41:25.580 right thing and to overcome your fears and it doesn't just mean to go out and seek out problems

03:41:33.660 but to do the right thing and to live authentically i don't

03:41:44.460 and this may seem like a like a poor example

03:41:49.660 but it's like people who are in a relationship they can't talk about

03:41:56.380 or that's inappropriate or that's secret for whatever other reason you've got something that

03:42:02.380 you're so passionate about and so excited about but you can't share it with the world you can't

03:42:07.260 speak on it you can't you feel guilty and dirty for some reason about it that's not how we're meant

03:42:15.180 to live you're meant to embrace stuff and say it proudly if it's something you're proud of

03:42:22.620 something that's important to you and fundamental to who you are

03:42:28.220 your life is missing out if you can't fully embrace that and be part of it you know if

03:42:34.700 you don't believe we don't also true is not trying to be anybody's side chick that's not

03:42:45.320 that's not what we're doing this is what we believe this is part of our life and we should

03:42:52.020 feel completely free to embrace that and weave our life around it and i know the world doesn't

03:42:58.600 always work that way but here in the united states at least we can and we have that right

03:43:06.040 and it doesn't mean that we don't and you can't face social consequences or other consequences

03:43:11.640 where you can and many people have but it's still the right thing to do and i found um i mentioned

03:43:20.840 this earlier when we're talking about weird and when we're talking about rhido and getting in the

03:43:27.080 right flow of things i have tried every way i can to make this who i am and part of what all of the

03:43:40.520 aspects of my life i don't have you know these friends over here but they don't know about what

03:43:47.320 i do and i've got family but i don't tell my family because you know it's odd and it'll have

03:43:53.000 a strange conversation i don't want to have and you know i just do this on the side but my wife

03:43:59.320 does her own thing as a christian and then i've got no i don't have any of that i met my wife

03:44:05.560 through the afa we built a family in ausitru around our gods and our faith my very best friends

03:44:15.320 are people like swan here that i share this with um i've tried to weave

03:44:24.200 ausitru into all aspects of my life and everything is so much better when you do that

03:44:31.400 because all the pieces can match up and you don't have to live inauthentically everything

03:44:38.920 synergizes and works together and to whatever degree you're able to do that i would encourage

03:44:45.240 everybody to do that to the best of your ability the close are to doing that and to living

03:44:53.080 a holistic existence that's authentic and that's true to yourself and your gods

03:45:00.120 the better everything will be and i strongly strongly believe that

03:45:04.280 Svon, do you have anything to offer on how you got to be so courageous to be so open about this?

03:45:15.760 I have to say that I've not had a negative experience in most relations.

03:45:21.280 I know that I live in the South and I live in the Bible Belt, if you will.

03:45:27.580 But the general sense that I've often run into is that people are very intrigued. They are also intrinsically connected to it, or they feel that it's not so strange or off-putting.

03:45:46.140 A lot of the folk that I run into and I talk to them about this or they ask me about the hammer, I reach really good conversation levels with them that never really kind of broach.

03:46:03.220 I just recently had a client who is a devoutly practicing German Catholic and came into the Catholic faith through his longstanding relation with his family.

03:46:21.240 and he's second generation American um he uh but when he he didn't know about my faith and

03:46:30.380 um he asked at my shop I have an a small um shrine or steading to uh Lord Olin uh there at

03:46:41.580 the shop and he asked me about it and I told him and at first I was wondering where this was gonna

03:46:46.660 to go, especially right like five minutes into the conversation, he's like, well, you

03:46:51.380 know, I'm, I'm really staunch Catholic.

03:46:52.980 And I was like, okay, well, is this, this might, I might never see this guy again.

03:46:59.560 And then it turned out to be really, really good.

03:47:02.680 It turned out to be, um, uh, an eyeopening experience for him and kind of a removal of

03:47:10.400 a lot of reservations sometimes that I have when talking with my clients about things.

03:47:15.200 I don't want to keep them in the dark and I don't want to be dishonest with them. And if I'm, if I'm willing to place a shrine to one of the gods in my shop, you know, that's clearly going to cause conversation.

03:47:29.920 And I think that I would rather give faith and piety and honor and worthfulness to my gods than not for the sake of sparing someone's feelings or someone's mental inclinations.

03:47:49.940 I'd rather build that relationship between the gods and me openly than not.

03:47:56.740 But again, some people have different situations.

03:47:59.540 I don't know where you're living or what you're perhaps dealing with in regards to that.

03:48:07.520 But I definitely think that taking that step forward and being open or sometimes you can even do it with a certain sense of modesty that can easily come along with it as well.

03:48:21.560 If you're just because you don something doesn't necessarily mean you have to scream it in people's faces.

03:48:26.320 I think that a lot of people get edgy and want to, you know, look at me and so on and so forth.

03:48:32.960 If you feel the sense of being modest about it and your faith, simply wearing something small and but out in the open and really make it about your connection to the gods, not necessarily your need to explain to anyone about anything.

03:48:52.620 So if it's a testament or a movement towards marking your faith and being closer to the gods, that's the perfect reason to do it.

03:49:02.060 But again, you don't have to wear, you know, some Timu hammers, Eddie Bauer shirt with, you know, swirling sun and rods and I'm just joking now.

03:49:19.160 i'm just making sure that people are still paying like still paying this stuff always looks cool

03:49:24.360 when it shows up as an ad i'm a little bit scared to uh yeah the end result that um

03:49:32.440 a little bit scared to test the prices are kind of too good to be true so

03:49:37.800 i would say just keep context of why you're you want to show your faith um if you're showing your

03:49:45.240 faith to get reactions that's not the right way but if you want to build a little bit uh and i

03:49:52.200 would invite no pressure but i'd invite um you avocado toast and anybody else who is listening

03:50:00.440 to this and feels disconnected and alone if you're not a member of the afa why not

03:50:11.480 and if the answer is you're still looking into it or you've got questions or you're not sure yet

03:50:17.360 that's okay please feel free to come by and ask us questions or you know you can email or any of us

03:50:25.520 would be really happy to answer any of them and if it's not that it's something else um it'd be

03:50:32.240 cool to get it resolved and get you part of the team we're doing amazing things we're doing it

03:50:37.040 together and the first step is to you know to join and get with some folks in

03:50:42.420 your area we've got people all across the country you might be curious you

03:50:47.480 mentioned that your people are in the DC area so Nick can probably throw the link

03:50:55.400 up here to the website for the the Hoff closest to you that's your Hoff

03:51:01.240 district that's going to be Thorshoff and it's www.thorshoff.com that's that's going to talk

03:51:15.080 about folks in your area we've got a folk builder relatively close to you we got kind of folk

03:51:21.400 builders on either side we've got spawn down in Virginia so you know all things considered not

03:51:27.480 terribly far from you. But yeah, I highly invite you to check us out and see if it's something

03:51:34.000 that you might want to get involved in. And if you do, love to see you join. And that goes for

03:51:38.840 anybody out there that's listening to this. We invite you to be a part of this. You don't have

03:51:43.420 to be alone. We're doing great things together. And when we're united in this, we accomplish some

03:51:50.940 truly amazing things so i just wanted to put that out there um next up we've got a uh

03:52:02.460 this one's for you spawn there's a this is this about your your ravenous need for rotten fish

03:52:13.020 there's a stereotype that nordics particularly icelanders have a special liking for preserved

03:52:19.260 fish do you fit that stereotype i got one foot in the um preserved fish uh camp and the other in the

03:52:29.420 deep fried southern fish camp um i i'm not a i'm not again you said he didn't say shark he said fish

03:52:39.660 no i um i definitely have a hankering for um sweetened pickled herring it is delicious if

03:52:50.140 you've never had it and you like fish it is amazing sweet onions uh and and wine sauce

03:52:57.260 um on pumpernickel bread it that's the deal that is thoroughly icelandic uh you know and have a

03:53:05.500 a shot of a Lisi with it, you know, some, some cod liver oil, which we, I still take in the

03:53:12.820 morning. Um, that's a big thing for us as well as taking cod liver oil. Um, but at the other side,

03:53:19.080 you know, I'm, I'm absolutely like, I love fried catfish and, uh, you know, croaker and spot here

03:53:26.320 in the Chesapeake Bay and all of that. Um, but don't usually eat those fermented or anything

03:53:32.320 like that so yes i guess the stereotype sticks but the the the how carl is i'm not no i'll pass

03:53:42.080 so yeah the rotten sharks gross the sweet pick when you you have me it's sweet i got a sweet

03:53:49.600 tooth the sweet pickled herring with a wine sauce on pumpernickel if it's re i have a hard time

03:53:55.120 finding really funky pumpernickel and so i like a pumpernickel i can really taste the pumpernickel

03:54:01.200 but that sounds amazing

03:54:03.520 I'm all for some of that

03:54:05.140 but

03:54:05.820 it's hard when you juxtapose

03:54:09.800 it to the

03:54:10.920 best of all fish which is

03:54:13.780 fried catfish

03:54:14.760 I can eat my weight

03:54:17.780 in fried catfish and your weight

03:54:19.900 too

03:54:20.300 yeah

03:54:23.300 fried catfish

03:54:25.960 might be my favorite thing

03:54:27.860 if not it's top

03:54:29.900 five easy no like the etymology of it

03:54:40.540 I don't care. It's delicious, but I appreciate your side note on that. That makes it even more

03:55:00.880 fun. That's great. I got to look that up. Leave it to the Germans to throw in that.

03:55:09.600 imagine that's something to do with the with the yeast fermenting process making it but 0.88

03:55:17.780 yeah yeah i don't know maybe it gives you gas i've not experienced that but it's always

03:55:23.540 a very common breakfast in iceland is like is like thin sliced very very hard it's not it's

03:55:32.420 like breaks apart. It's not very malleable, uh, with butter. And then, um, uh, the pickled

03:55:40.120 herring on top is, um, really, really good. And I can't go on enough about the usage of

03:55:47.140 drinking or like they make pills, but in Iceland, we like drink them in little teeny cups or

03:55:53.640 and spoonfuls of cod liver oil.

03:56:00.080 Very, very good for you.

03:56:01.280 So I want to mention this too, and I don't want to push.

03:56:05.500 Avocado toast.

03:56:06.520 Awesome.

03:56:06.980 I'm glad you're going to talk to somebody next week.

03:56:09.580 Folks would love to talk to you.

03:56:11.740 Please stick to that.

03:56:12.740 I would be remiss if I didn't mention.

03:56:16.140 Next week, we are having our big celebration of the year at Thorshof,

03:56:21.640 which is your closest hoff.

03:56:23.640 It's down in North Carolina.

03:56:25.080 It's a little bit of a haul for you, but it's amazing.

03:56:29.660 It is your best opportunity to get the full AFA experience.

03:56:35.820 If you have an interest, you're welcome to come check it out.

03:56:39.780 If that's something you'd like to do, you don't have to be a member.

03:56:42.240 You just need to talk to one of the folk builders and they can get you squared away.

03:56:46.940 I'm just throwing it out there as an invitation. 0.87

03:56:49.880 You can take it at whatever pace you'd like.

03:56:51.920 but i felt like i needed to say it because it's kind of a once in a year thing for that and so

03:56:56.960 you know there's um a ritual there's a gathering at the hof once a month at least but this is the

03:57:06.320 this is the big national one there at that particular location just needed i just needed

03:57:11.360 to say that because you got a week's time if it is something that you want to check out

03:57:15.440 but like i said take it at your own pace is absolutely fine um so

03:57:24.560 i'm going to encapsulate all three of these last questions and these will be our last questions

03:57:30.320 we're going to sign off i am extremely hungry and i've got some costco stuffed peppers that i'm

03:57:37.200 going to eat an entire tray of as soon as we're done with this broadcast um i'm i'm running down

03:57:44.160 of the hoff tomorrow so it's gonna be okay well then we'll we'll get these three and and call it

03:57:50.240 quits so multi-pronged question um your thoughts on the nine doors of midgard read and complete all

03:58:04.160 nine steps or not followed by a question in edward thorson's nine doors of midgard or isn't edward

03:58:12.400 Thorson's Nine Doors of Midgard a valuable tool. Are there things you would add or subtract from

03:58:17.660 it? Copy that Tom Bass has is from 2019. So he's sure that he's not sure if there's a more current

03:58:28.300 edition. And then we have a question from Chris Lukat about, I don't know how to do a rune poll

03:58:37.600 and i feel i should any suggestions on where i should start they kind of all flow together

03:58:47.280 as to the last question first rune pull wise um

03:58:56.080 you should read futhark first that's a good place to start and i believe he talks about

03:59:05.680 three room pulls in there a three-room pull is what i would start with if i were you

03:59:12.400 but if you've not read futhark first i would advise you to do that because i think it's very

03:59:18.400 valuable to that if you can futhark and ruin more but i would approach it really cost really like

03:59:27.440 thoughtfully and i would suggest a three-room pull on to the nine doors of midgard question

03:59:35.680 um i really like it i think it is

03:59:45.760 it takes time and it takes effort and it can take more time and more effort than folks are

03:59:55.080 willing to put in i'll say that you are going to get out of it what you put in so if you take

04:00:02.560 shortcuts because it's just too long and tedious for you your experience will reflect that but

04:00:11.840 it's a very very long course i don't know many people that have done all nine doors

04:00:21.760 the first two doors are really good and i would suggest that you do those

04:00:27.120 if you want to go past that absolutely by all means

04:00:36.400 i'm sure if we sat down and analyzed it there's things that we could

04:00:44.400 add or subtract but in general i think it's really good it's just very long very time consuming it

04:00:52.720 involves a lot of dedication to it so if you're gonna do it i would say do it right and at a slow

04:01:00.720 pace rather than taking shortcuts because things will reflect that if there's one piece of it that

04:01:08.800 i have got the most out of it's the section in the beginning about making a list of your good

04:01:17.760 qualities and your negative qualities of your virtues and your vices and being brutally honest

04:01:26.540 with yourself you don't have to share it with anyone else but that has been powerfully

04:01:33.580 transformative to me to make that list both of them and be very honest with it to work on those

04:01:41.940 things and to come back maybe yearly and re-examine that list and see improvements

04:01:49.780 or any kind of setbacks i've had towards it and work on that and that's been really beneficial

04:01:57.140 it's fine do you have any advice on the rune pool and general thoughts on

04:02:04.260 how good nine doors is or isn't and would you recommend people do all of it

04:02:08.820 uh like you answer the the last question first i would say my go-to recommendation i i'd love

04:02:20.680 futhark um but i mean if we're talking about strictly divination at the well of weird by

04:02:28.000 edward thorson would be one of my first and the other would be the complete illustrated guide

04:02:34.300 to the runes by nigel pennick those two books are if you're if you don't know anything about the

04:02:41.960 runes they'll get you started the illustrated guide to the runes by nigel pennick will get

04:02:49.120 you started plus give you all of the information and it's unbiased he even covers the runic revival

04:02:57.520 in the medieval times and he even talks about it during world war ii and he does it in a way

04:03:04.180 that i don't think really um is like again biased or he's attempting to you know stave off the

04:03:10.980 the uh the powers that be um that would want you know him to not print things unbiasedly he just

04:03:19.460 kind of rolls right in with that and so you get um kind of a really good scope of the runes just

04:03:28.180 to general plus it's got great photographs of um archaeological digs and uh sketches of runic stones

04:03:36.020 that are no longer around and it's all formatted in a very easy digestible way so if depending on

04:03:42.420 your level if you're if you're a little bit more experienced i would say well weird if you have no

04:03:47.940 experience at all go with the complete illustrated guide it's a great foot in the door um

04:03:54.260 Um, The Nine Doors of Midgard, I have not completed the, um, thresholds, if you will.

04:04:04.700 Um, I think it's a phenomenal book and I have done just as, um, I was here ago.

04:04:13.280 They had said, you know, the first two major steps forward into that.

04:04:18.140 um i think it's a great book and i intend to go through with it if you will um but again when you

04:04:28.040 get into a lot of the controversy behind him uh there is a book called the history of the

04:04:36.980 rune guild that i think is worth noting and it gives um a fairly good perspective of

04:04:43.380 um his life through some of the more controversial states um and uh that would be an interesting

04:04:51.020 book for anybody that was uh you know kind of again you hear some people really naysay

04:04:56.600 on him um in relation to other things and i think again we kind of get that ourselves here

04:05:03.700 um with people not fully understanding who we are what we're about and then painting us in a

04:05:10.200 different light or a different you know intention i think he's gotten a lot of that too so um

04:05:16.280 yeah history of the rune guild is really interesting and it's not really a history

04:05:23.760 of the rune guild at all it's basically a autobiography of edrid which is fine that's

04:05:31.740 kind of most of what i wanted to get out of it but it's a neat little it's a neat book

04:05:36.580 it tells a really interesting story of this guy's journey in the you know very odd circles that he

04:05:45.440 has ran in and it gives you some perspective and no going into it um my endorsement of him

04:05:54.060 is on his scholarship and his knowledge about the rooms i don't

04:06:00.620 recommend him in terms of religion or piety or lifestyle choices but i do as far as

04:06:13.580 his runic knowledge the knowledge the the expertise he brings to the table

04:06:19.980 and expertise is what i look at for you know technicians in a lot of these

04:06:26.300 fields is are they competent to instruct me in the thing that they're talking about

04:06:33.100 and that's that's how i would take that in his stuff but the history of the rune guild

04:06:39.340 is fascinating it's really interesting read and it's got a lot of you know very interesting

04:06:48.060 stories about his the very interesting life that he's led um thank you guys so much for

04:06:55.180 continuing to join us on this i know that you know we're six episodes in on uh going through

04:07:01.340 the have them all and we still have more to go but um i really get a lot out of this hope you

04:07:07.580 guys do too i'm enjoying it keep in mind we will not be here next week um because i will be halfway

04:07:17.260 to north carolina hopefully by the end of the broadcast i'll be in north carolina um

04:07:23.660 But yeah, heading out for Ostara at Thorshof.

04:07:27.620 If you can make it, you should.

04:07:30.060 I'd love to see you there.

04:07:32.580 It's going to be a fantastic event.

04:07:34.960 If not, and you're listening to Victory Never Sleeps this time next week,

04:07:39.520 you're in for a treat. 1.00

04:07:41.120 Witten Brandi Callahan is going to be running the show on that. 0.68

04:07:44.380 And she has got, I believe, special guests.

04:07:52.780 Who else is coming with her?

04:07:54.500 She's going to be there.

04:07:55.900 Goethe Rob Stamm will be on.

04:07:58.160 I believe Witten Daniel Young will be on.

04:08:02.940 And his wife, folk builder Heather Young will be on.

04:08:08.040 And Goethe Trent East will also be on.

04:08:11.100 So they're going to figure out how to shuffle around the cameras.

04:08:14.620 Because I think we only got spots for four at a time.

04:08:17.840 So I don't know whether it's going to be a tag situation or just how it's going to work.

04:08:22.780 But I look forward to talking to you guys in two weeks if I don't see you at Ostara.

04:08:28.380 Till then, hail the gods, hail the folk, hail the AFA, and remember that victory never slips.

04:08:36.940 Bye.

04:08:37.500 Bye.

04:08:52.780 We'll be right back.

04:09:22.780 We'll be right back.

04:09:52.780 Thank you.

04:10:22.780 Thank you.

04:10:52.780 We'll be right back.

04:11:22.780 Thank you.

Asatru Folk Assembly - March 14, 2024

3⧸13⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 88 - Hávamál, Part 6

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