Asatru Folk Assembly - March 16, 2023


3⧸15⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 36 - Raud the Strong


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00:03:30.000 hello everyone and welcome back to another exciting edition of victory never sleeps
00:03:39.240 um had to miss you guys last week because i was flying out to ostara at uh thor's hoff and that
00:03:47.380 was an amazing event um i know i always say that like broken record but those of you that come to
00:03:52.760 these events know that i'm not lying and uh you know those that think i am come check it out and
00:03:58.760 and prove me wrong they they are awesome it was a really great time it's a beautiful temple it's
00:04:04.200 it's a really special place and i always look forward to going out and seeing my
00:04:08.680 thorshoff family um our guest tonight happened to be be out of region uh joining joining me for that
00:04:17.320 event uh we are so we've got for the first time tonight uh my friend and folk builder mike joiner
00:04:26.920 um mike was the uh he won the folk building excellence award which is award we give out
00:04:33.540 every year for the best uh best folk builder of that year and he won that for last year and
00:04:39.320 yeah mike's fantastic guy and he is here to talk about rod the strong today this is going to be
00:04:47.880 our first in a series that we're doing about the heroes of alsatru for those of you that might not
00:04:55.240 know um we as the austro folk assembly celebrate days of remembrance for a number of our heroes
00:05:08.040 many of these folks are people that the days of remembrance was established for
00:05:13.320 back in i believe in the 1980s and it's been kind of on again off again uh observed for a time but
00:05:21.720 But it's been very important to me during my time as I was here to go to really emphasize that.
00:05:27.860 And in that time, we've added several several heroes, most of them modern, some of them from our past.
00:05:35.300 And I want to shed a spotlight on those. So these people are celebrated, not forgotten.
00:05:41.340 And so our audience can know a little bit about these folks and what made them so special.
00:05:46.760 and so that's why we've got uh got mike here joining us tonight i want to get into route here
00:05:53.580 in just this just a second but i kind of do this with everyone when it's their first time on the
00:05:57.560 program mike do you want to tell folks a little bit about yourself and how you found osa true
00:06:04.360 and specifically how you found the osa true folk assembly absolutely so um it was i had moved down
00:06:12.360 to Tallahassee, Florida in 2010. I had started with, oddly enough, the Freemasons before I moved
00:06:20.420 here from Mississippi. My grandfather was one and I decided, well, if he could do it, I could do it.
00:06:26.120 So I joined them, moved down to Tallahassee, Florida, and I was at a local lodge. Wasn't
00:06:32.260 happy, but I was in there and I was trying to make the best of it. And I was, I remember hearing
00:06:38.880 it was uh they had asked alan witten alan turnage to do the blessing that night and i remember
00:06:43.920 listening to it it was so different than everything else i'd ever listened to and it just
00:06:49.200 i don't want to say lit a fire but definitely started a spark so a year or two later i talked
00:06:55.200 to alan on and off we'd become friends you know how life will part you and then bring you back
00:06:59.600 together so um it was a we had a I was watching um a TV show and it just kind of hit me and I said
00:07:10.220 message I remember sitting there in my recliner watching TV on like a on a dreary Sunday afternoon
00:07:15.740 and I frantically pull up my phone and my wife's like what are you doing I was like I got a message
00:07:19.580 this guy hold on one second I think I still have his number and so I um message Alan I'm like hey
00:07:25.020 you probably don't remember me, but I'm, I can't get over your, the prayer you said at dinner,
00:07:31.640 you know, three years ago at this point, maybe four years ago at that point, I think it was
00:07:36.440 three or four ago. Um, can we have lunch? And of course, Alan being Alan, he goes, sure. So we met,
00:07:44.320 we had lunch. I came out with a list of at least two books to start on with a promise of more once
00:07:51.080 get through those and uh that's that is the beginning of my path for ositru coming to the afa
00:07:59.000 um this little rocky getting in and out i'll just kind of where i was at the time it was very long
00:08:05.880 distance to get to anybody and it's funny like you see i say that i thought that then you know
00:08:12.680 and that's that's the interesting part is oh man an hour away oh you know and then you step up to
00:08:19.000 a folk builder and it's like yeah well you know three hours you're that that's a normal saturday
00:08:23.480 morning drive you know four hours so oh look there's something going on eight hours away
00:08:28.200 yeah i'll sure i'll take off work so and it's it's funny how the hotter and hotter the furnace
00:08:36.360 burns inside of you the more and more you're willing to do and really push yourself and that's
00:08:40.920 when i find once i got full builders when i finally all right you know once we got the
00:08:44.520 hoff and that the spark and furnace just lit up so uh yeah now it's now it wouldn't be anything
00:08:51.400 to drive four hours for a bloat back then it just seemed like a lot money wise was a lot tighter
00:08:56.200 than two so but yes sir um in fact a funny point if you look at my uh reasons for joining
00:09:02.840 it actually says alan won't leave me alone
00:09:07.320 and i think my wife's reason for joining is mike and alan won't leave me alone so
00:09:14.520 Well, we are, we're glad you found your way here.
00:09:20.260 All right. So for folks listening that have never heard about Roud the Strong, can you, can you kind of, I don't know, give us, give us what we need to know and tell us a little bit about, about the life of Roud.
00:09:38.940 um absolutely so it's interesting there's there's not a ton about him but we do know a good bit
00:09:45.780 so um we know that he was uh i love the graphic um we know he was a bloat uh bloat priest and a
00:09:53.800 seafaring warrior was two of the big things he is one of the they they say he practiced witchcraft
00:10:02.080 which could be construed as either satyr or something very similar to so which is kind of
00:10:08.320 which some sources will say that he practiced Seder Seder.
00:10:12.340 Others will just say witchcraft.
00:10:15.860 He was, let's see here.
00:10:18.860 He lived in part of the Godfrey Islands, presently day known as Bodo, B-O-D-O.
00:10:27.440 He's known as actually having a strong connection with the Sami people,
00:10:30.420 was considered a very large landowner with many house servants,
00:10:34.940 and some of them actually uh and fins being part of the house servants um one of the most
00:10:40.460 interesting things at least what i found was he was renowned for having the largest ship
00:10:47.100 so the biggest ship the most decorative um and in fact some of the sources attribute
00:10:52.700 his ship to being the beginning of the being the one of the first if not the first dragon ships or
00:10:59.420 serpent ships. So, um, like anything in that day, somebody says, I want that as well. And you're
00:11:06.780 not one of us. So I'm going to get what your thing is. Um, we had Olaf enter the picture,
00:11:12.100 which was the king of Norway at the time. And that's his own interesting story of how he came
00:11:18.600 to that to that but so um basically when route and a guy named his friend of his story or hort
00:11:27.900 heard that olaf was coming they both got into their boats and uh thorier as well had a very
00:11:34.120 uh had a large ship apparently as well so they headed down um thorier ships headed due south
00:11:41.760 uh riled ships headed straight in um thorier ships were pretty much taken out pretty easily
00:11:47.920 or pretty not easily pretty early in the battle whereas riled strips held in um the saga say that
00:11:55.280 the ships were cleaned of or the was it the ships were cleared of men meaning that they were taken
00:12:03.320 out uh taken out defeated um in some form or facet so riled just riled retreated uh he turned
00:12:12.520 to sails and he actually used a technique that was very little well a little known about that
00:12:17.160 about how to basically tack against the wind, which was interesting at that time, they were
00:12:22.080 running rectangular square sails. So tacking was very difficult, if not almost, I won't say
00:12:29.180 impossible, but close to it. Not until you got to more of later with the triangle sails were you
00:12:35.060 able to really tack well. Anyway, Roud was able to, as the saga say, use his witchcraft that allowed
00:12:42.920 him to sail against the winds, um, and escape, uh, and escape. It's also worth noting there that
00:12:49.500 at this point, multiple sources and multiple people say that he was aided by the gods in his
00:12:55.960 escape. So as he was entering, um, the aisles, they, uh, it would, it's not a jump to say that
00:13:04.240 Nord interfered, uh, Nord interfered and helped him get home. So he retreated back to his house.
00:13:09.220 um and that leads us to the second battle and battle being kind of a question mark on this one
00:13:15.680 so he made it all the way back to his house um olaf had ran down his friend thorier and thorier
00:13:23.280 is not mentioned much really after that other than mentioning that he was fast-footed so he
00:13:27.640 was chased down and that was taking care and he was taken care of unfortunately um so under the
00:13:32.340 Cloak of Darkness, Olaf, the Norwegian king, basically took over Roud's manor, snuck in,
00:13:40.740 and captured him while he was sleeping and bound him there. So after a day or two of torturing,
00:13:48.320 all of which it was, and it's kind of interesting when you say the torturing of Roud,
00:13:53.880 because you had a situation of, you know, convert or die, convert or die. And this is kind of where
00:14:00.840 you did that the neat part of the story is he sat there and took a mocking tone against olaf and
00:14:07.980 olaf's um god at that point so he would never convert in fact instead of just saying no and
00:14:14.540 being tight-lipped he took a mocking tone and so wouldn't convert wouldn't convert um at that point
00:14:20.700 uh as soon as olaf finally olaf has had enough and this is where the story that the translations
00:14:26.500 start to veer is how Olaf died, or not Olaf, excuse me, how Roud died. So we know he was
00:14:33.560 captured, tortured, and bound. The question, the first source, the longer version of the death
00:14:40.560 says that a snake was put into a horn, and the horn was put over his mouth. And then the snake
00:14:47.700 refused to enter the mouth of Roud. So that's the first part. And that only occurs, I believe,
00:14:55.980 in one text i don't remember which one i read that one in i do apologize i didn't cite that one
00:15:00.700 um the next one however the next couple pick up from there and say that either the horn was heated
00:15:07.500 up or that the snake was put into a pipe and i'm pretty sure that that's just pipe and horn or at
00:15:13.260 that point would have been depends on how the translation came across and either way the snake
00:15:18.700 had to have been forced into route's mouth we do know that one for a fact um the stout route story
00:15:23.820 unfortunately ends with the snake eating through roud side and escaping thus um killing roud
00:15:32.260 and olaf sailed away on roud on the largest ship roud uh roud serpent attack so um after that
00:15:41.460 basically olaf gave roud's men the same option they had given to how he'd given to roud he
00:15:47.720 convert or die. They said, um, half said convert, half said died. Um, and they were taken care of
00:15:54.360 as such. So, um, yeah, Ralph is, uh, route is looking back on as being known for his honor
00:16:01.300 and his courage and that he never turned his back on the gods. Thank you for that, Mike. Um,
00:16:08.780 um I think it's extremely important uh when we look back at our heroes or when we look
00:16:19.760 back at history in general to remember that these these are people these are people in
00:16:28.580 you know in some ways very much like us and uh it's always been a tragedy to me that
00:16:38.240 when viewing history time dehumanizes so when we look at something very tragic that happened to
00:16:48.120 someone you know over a thousand years ago it's very easy not to feel the same emotion that you
00:16:54.920 would feel if you saw that happen to one of our faithful on the news today. This is a flesh and
00:17:02.140 blood man like you and I. Think of your father or your grandfather being, everybody's in a tizzy
00:17:11.440 about waterboarding, but this man was held down and had a snake forced into his mouth, down his
00:17:18.980 throat to chew its way out of his side. Um, and he was willing to do endure all of that
00:17:26.420 for his loyalty to the Isir because he was also true. Um, and I think it's so important that we
00:17:35.820 remember that and do it with a smile. I don't want to say a smile on his face, but do it
00:17:41.340 with the knowledge that he was right. And that that's to me, that's, that that's, you know,
00:17:47.320 sorry i didn't mean to interrupt you it was just a you're fine that idea that you can endure a lot
00:17:54.220 with the idea of maybe i'm wrong right so you're in class you say oh i think this i think that
00:18:00.440 but he did it with such magnitude to still sit there and be mocking that and that's
00:18:08.740 his confidence is really that in and of itself is inspiring his confidence and his belief in the
00:18:14.480 gods inspiring quite literally it's you know it's sad to note that some of his men chose conversion
00:18:20.660 but it's I think more important given the given the circumstance to note that many of his men
00:18:27.020 refused conversion and accepted death alongside him because of the example he set because their
00:18:33.560 own faith um and arguably the the text doesn't directly say the numbers but from the from the
00:18:42.900 ones that I, from everything that I've read pointed that more chose death.
00:18:49.560 The fact that any, after watching the horrific way in which he was killed,
00:18:56.340 chose to suffer a similar fate for their faith is, you know, is profound.
00:19:03.180 The fact it was more than one, even more so.
00:19:05.540 And for our guests that are listening to us on Spotify or listening to this just audio without the side chat, someone did point out, and correctly so, that Roud's Day of Remembrance is on January the 9th.
00:19:22.940 We got questions lined up.
00:19:24.920 I think a number of them are generic, and I think hopefully some of them are going to be about Roud.
00:19:30.700 And whatever they may be, we're happy to answer them.
00:19:33.600 guys please know you can ask questions on youtube you can ask questions on entropy
00:19:39.520 you can ask questions on vk and on twitter all the links that he just threw up but i think those are
00:19:49.620 the ones that we're taking live questions on and people are monitoring for if you guys want to do
00:19:56.040 any donations or any you know like tips or participate in super chat and get your questions
00:20:00.860 up to the top you can do that over on entropy and those are always much appreciated let's start off
00:20:07.820 with our first question what are some examples if any of positive or unbiased articles written about
00:20:15.820 the afa thanks um so i mean to answer the question comprehensively i should have tried to grab some
00:20:26.540 If I would have known, I would have grabbed some links to send to you guys.
00:20:32.080 I think it's wise that you put, if any, because I don't think that there are many articles that are.
00:20:41.860 Certainly, I can't think of any positive articles about us, unfortunately.
00:20:47.640 But there's very few that are unbiased.
00:20:50.660 And I think bias cuts both ways.
00:20:52.540 If you ask me to write about the AFA, it would, of course, be biased.
00:20:55.400 not that it's dishonest in any way, but I'm definitely on a side about it. And I think that
00:21:00.760 as we've seen in my time in the Ask True Folk Assembly, the climate is such that, and I've
00:21:11.040 heard this from a number of people who've done interviews with me, that their editor has sent
00:21:18.520 them out for a specific purpose to do a story about racism and so that kind of starts the
00:21:26.080 starts the process off of off of the bias i would say the the most fair article about us was from
00:21:34.800 say the yuba democrat is the name of the paper and you could look that up or we could try to
00:21:45.720 fact check that I think that's one I would look to that I think was done was done fairly um as far
00:21:52.520 as you know other media that that is positive or unbiased about us we have several in our YouTube
00:21:58.520 links if you go to the same channel um we have two really good uh good shows on um Expedition Truth
00:22:06.880 hosted by Reverend Jack Ashcraft and those were very well done interviews you know and he's not
00:22:14.520 you know, he's not from our circles. He's not Ausatru. He's, you know, an ordained clergyman
00:22:20.300 in a, in a, another faith, but he did a very good job. I felt that was really fair. Um,
00:22:27.240 several others that were, uh, that were, uh, audio or visually, um, sorry, audio or video
00:22:33.960 interviews. And you can find them on our YouTube channel. If you look through there,
00:22:37.600 can you think of any articles off the top of your head that were particularly fair or,
00:22:43.600 or at least, uh, or fair or positive about us, Mike?
00:22:49.520 I can't cite any sources, but I can tell you that some of the one that
00:22:56.260 the press that we get from every, from the stories that I've gotten.
00:23:01.820 And even to be honest, Matt, this is, this program has driven, I've taken, I can't tell
00:23:06.920 you how many calls, uh, this program, um, some of the negative press we have gotten
00:23:12.960 has actually been people like that can't be that bad look at the look at look at the way they're
00:23:18.560 look at them they're they can't be what people are saying um and so that's we've gotten a ton
00:23:23.680 of people that way uh this program and the melissa mills folklore study group uh that i believe it's
00:23:31.520 melissa and j they do uh they do uh people wanting to join that is actually a big driver as well so
00:23:38.480 as a as kind of a note on um on articles and this is this is anecdotal because obviously this is
00:23:46.960 just you know conversation between me and the reporter but it has been really telling a number
00:23:50.800 of uh reporters that i've talked to have you know kind of admitted that they were looking for a lot
00:23:56.720 more dirt than they were able to find and some have been frustrated that we aren't the the evil
00:24:02.880 monsters they were told we were and some have been you know respectful i don't i don't want to
00:24:11.760 say you know like on our side about it but some have been you know appreciative of what we've
00:24:17.200 done and said that you know they wish they could do this article on the you know community page
00:24:21.600 or religion page as opposed to the the racism page um so take that for what it's worth trent asks
00:24:30.400 mike which off is the best off answer carefully that's a good one um so i'll i'll give the
00:24:41.120 initial my official answer is your half is the best half whichever half you can attend
00:24:46.880 it's more important that you get to the half and celebrate with your folk uh
00:24:52.160 matt and the witness have said many and many of times also true is not a solitary religion
00:24:58.160 uh even if you can get does even if you don't have can't make it to a hof practice in the
00:25:03.920 backyard with folk um which is the best hof of course you know i am a little biased to my home
00:25:10.820 hof norther's hof um but i have enjoyed the company very much enjoyed the company of balder's
00:25:16.980 hof and thor's hof this past weekend um i love everybody at both of those hofs i had we had
00:25:22.920 absolutely amazing times we got to visit balder's hof and uh right before the winter storms hit
00:25:28.080 this year up in minnesota which was wonderful to visit their yule celebration in this past weekend
00:25:34.000 and a star was absolutely phenomenal um in fact i think my voice is still recovering from the power
00:25:40.000 of uh the bloats this weekend and so uh my personally my home half but i will say everyone
00:25:50.960 as i've said to the people when i do my initial call i've asked if they've ever set bloat
00:25:57.520 pardon me matt if you don't mind if i go off on a little tangent on this one no go for it
00:26:01.120 so i call it the goosebumps um and it's kind of a it's we all know what goosebumps are right
00:26:08.480 i don't know if they have a different name elsewhere in the country we just know that
00:26:10.800 i just know that's what they're called down here when your hair stand up and you get them on your
00:26:13.920 skin and um it's that feeling you get the excitement so i usually if somebody will ask
00:26:21.440 you know then they're oh they've said i've said you know i've asked if they've ever been to a
00:26:27.120 hoff usually the answer tonight yeah i've never had someone say yes i've been to the hoff now i'm
00:26:30.960 applying it's always been i haven't made it to a hoff yet and i said awesome little chit chat a
00:26:35.920 few minutes and i says well you know i'll always i like to ask well do you sit bloat have you set
00:26:40.400 sambal have you said any official service um usually the answer is no and i said okay have
00:26:47.760 Have you have you gotten the goosebumps while reading or listening, reading information or listening to Victory Never Sleeps?
00:26:54.600 And what I mean by that is not necessarily the goosebumps from, oh, I'm cold in here and I'm reading, but directed towards what you're actually doing.
00:27:08.520 So what I mean by that is the one of the I mean, I get them still when I go to the hall, still sometimes even just talking about going to the hall, thinking about a powerful service.
00:27:17.040 so of service this weekend the ostara bloat i mean i couldn't you know i felt like the goosebumps
00:27:22.640 never left my skin and i one of the things i said is i say to some of the people i'm interviewing
00:27:28.640 for the initial call is have you gotten the goosebumps just for someone saying grace
00:27:35.200 saying prayer over the food sorry i'm still southern so we say grace down here
00:27:39.600 and um usually the answer is no and i said then come to the hawk you know if
00:27:44.560 i can't guarantee you that it will happen but it's an extremely extremely powerful event and
00:27:51.800 that's kind of one of those i always remember the first time i got him was alan when alan was doing
00:27:56.260 the uh grace at the mason's hall and so i always i always like to use that as a measure for the
00:28:05.820 bright line of look for these as an emotional response to what's going on and that's one way
00:28:11.800 in my mind that i know i'm on the right path so okay sorry no that's fine that's fine so
00:28:22.040 our next uh question from the king of cheese matt mike good to see you both on how are we doing
00:28:29.480 tonight p.s you're rocking that beard mike so mike how are you doing i am peachy bud um great day
00:28:38.760 uh it's i wish uh baldur's hall folk would come take their cold weather away from florida we
00:28:43.720 were in the 60s and 40s today it was miserable other than that i'm doing great how about you
00:28:50.440 i'm doing fantastic i always say the same thing on here i'm sure it gets old
00:28:54.600 but i'm doing good as mike just talked about uh we had a great weekend at uh at ostara that was
00:29:00.760 awesome um i'm still still riding a high from that doing fantastic trying to think of
00:29:11.640 i don't know we got so many really cool things going on right now i'm just happy and this is
00:29:16.520 something i look forward to all week is getting to get on here and talk with y'all so i'm doing
00:29:20.680 really well uh christian says mike it was such a pleasure to get to work with you in the kitchen
00:29:28.200 during yule at baldersoff i look forward to feeding the folk again with you soon
00:29:33.320 if you could pick one meal and then it cuts out so hopefully nick's got the rest of whatever that
00:29:38.120 question was all right does not look like we do so uh if you could pick one meal to do something
00:29:52.440 of your choosing with please what would it be first i'll do my shameless plug for the project
00:29:59.000 the big project i'm working on um is cook uh is the cookbook the afa cookbook um it's gonna the
00:30:07.240 shameless plug was going to come at some point tonight so y'all are getting it now and possibly
00:30:10.200 getting it later um i am trying to put together a cookbook for us uh for the afa the catch of it
00:30:18.120 is that i want all the food oh what would be your last okay um pick one meal to be your last
00:30:24.680 what would it be okay that's that's an interesting one so the well i'll get to that one in a second
00:30:28.920 the cookbook is i want every recipe in the cookbook to been have to have been served
00:30:36.680 either at the hof at a moot or a folk feast so that way as we're putting this out we know that
00:30:44.760 every recipe has imbued the power of the folk into it you know it's not just you pulled out you know
00:30:52.200 something off the back of the macaroni and cheese box and you thought it looked cool it to have been
00:30:57.880 served to the folks to me that brings such power and such a you know a dedication and that's the
00:31:05.560 the word I'm looking for. There's so much more meaning to, and Stee and Christian I know knows
00:31:16.700 this one, Heather Young knows this one as well, to put so much of yourself into a meal to serve
00:31:22.620 to the full that it's not just, for you, it's not always just, you know, here's roast beef and
00:31:28.480 mashed potatoes. You know, here's, you know, a Julia, uh, a adapted Julia Child's recipe that
00:31:35.580 Stian, uh, made for Ed Baldershoff. You know, it's, it is a piece of yourself that you have put
00:31:42.900 copious amounts of thought, energy, and effort that you had to make it a point
00:31:48.680 to go to the grocery store and pick out those ingredients. You know, it's, it's not just a,
00:31:53.820 I'm going to feed the folk what can I have what do I have in the pantry so it's a conscious
00:31:58.740 decision to try to make the folk happy so that's that's that answer um so cook and the cookbook is
00:32:07.020 it's cookbook at runestone.org please submit recipes we do not have nearly enough to start
00:32:12.180 filling up pages um so what would be my last meal that is an extremely hard question um
00:32:21.660 honestly the first thing one of the things that i really really enjoy is uh is i don't i don't
00:32:33.000 want to call it at my last meal would be a charcuterie board because that's not it at all
00:32:36.320 it's various dried meats and stinky cheese i love me some blue cheese um pepper jack love cheese in
00:32:45.360 general more the more stronger the flavor the better and i love meat in every former facet
00:32:51.480 that it can come in so something with meat and cheese just not spaghetti all right there you have
00:32:58.520 it charcuterie to send mike off so the next question uh from sarah mike you are one of the
00:33:10.120 constantly happy people that i mostly mo one of the most constantly happy people
00:33:15.080 i've ever seen it's awesome and inspiring what is your secret
00:33:21.480 uh honestly this my secret was taught to me more why my dad didn't tell it to me directly he kind
00:33:31.700 of he did it while i was growing up very incrementally um honestly the secret is to
00:33:38.360 learn apathy and i know that's kind of contrary to being happy but what i really what that really
00:33:45.300 means is learning what to care about. When you can figure out what means the most in the world
00:33:51.980 to you, it is eat and only seek to control or influence that sphere. Then there's no reason
00:34:00.060 not to be, then there's no reason to have a frown about anything else. Now things will upset me and
00:34:05.640 I'm not going to lie. I get upset, but I tend to always get re-energized and going to the
00:34:13.280 Hoff re-energizes me. I'll be perfectly honest on that one. But I keep my smile by figuring out
00:34:19.760 what I don't need to care about and not putting so, not harping on the negative, but always looking
00:34:26.340 at the positive. Katie, my wife, will tell you that I'm probably one of the most positively
00:34:31.140 negative people possible. And she'll say that my ADD will kick into that one because
00:34:36.020 i will uh if i see the if i see a problem my first instinct is to figure out the solution and then
00:34:42.980 every reason while why that solution will and will not work so and then every of course you know
00:34:49.340 multiverse at that if you're into the marvel thing um all the other solutions so i you i yeah she gets
00:34:56.280 frustrated at that one but that's my trick learn what to care about and then let the work let the
00:35:02.140 let the mundane just go away. Good deal. Kind of take a break from questions for a second.
00:35:10.640 Nick, thank you once again. You're awesome. Nick found the article I was mentioning and he posted
00:35:16.300 a link in the chat if you guys are interested. One of the things I'll say about the gentleman
00:35:21.800 that did the article that was really impressive, I've talked to a lot of reporters at this stage
00:35:28.040 And. They are, you know, almost all. Very, very friendly and trying to be your best friend to get something out of you.
00:35:39.160 And then the tone that they have when they do their piece is often quite different.
00:35:45.160 And I know that going in the gentleman who did that article that Nick linked over there, though.
00:35:52.300 His attitude was the same when he was speaking to me beforehand and when he spoke to me in any kind of a follow-up situation.
00:36:00.820 It was also the same tone that came across in the article.
00:36:04.100 And what I'll say is his quotations that he used from me are not only accurate, but the tone and the context is accurate, too, which can make all the difference in the world.
00:36:15.060 So you asked about unbiased. I don't know about unbiased, but I think fairly presented. That article is the most fairly presented one we've had.
00:36:26.100 So, yeah. Next question from Kingdom of Vinland. Promethean hails. What do you think of the idea of using stained glass art like cathedrals in a temple to Balder?
00:36:38.520 I think it makes sense. I think it makes amazing sense. I love stained glass art. It is, it is
00:36:45.700 beautiful. And it is one of the things that comes very much from our folk soul. It's not something
00:36:51.200 that you see other places. And we've talked about that a lot internally. Stained glass on a massive
00:37:00.340 scale is hard to do. One of the other things we've looked at doing is painted glass. And you
00:37:07.860 painted glass even sometimes in stained glass work but uh painted glass also does beautiful
00:37:14.100 things with light i think to balder is certainly a you know one of the perfect places to put it but
00:37:20.900 i think in in any of our hops would be amazing to have stained or painted glass work um at balder's
00:37:27.460 off as it is we've got this is going to be hard to explain maybe nick can throw up a picture of
00:37:32.500 of the the steeple at Baldershof but it's got it's got segments up top there that we're actively
00:37:41.740 working on some some colored glass projects in and it's apropos that it's brought up at this time
00:37:49.600 because one of the things we're doing with that is celebrating heroes with those pieces of art
00:37:54.160 but as it is now in Baldershof and one of the things that's the most beautiful about it
00:37:59.440 and it's beautiful with the light coming in but it's really special if you see it after sunset
00:38:06.160 when you go to Baldershof it's got
00:38:09.180 I want to say it's got six stained glass windows three along each side
00:38:15.560 and they're beautiful they're not particularly religious in nature they're just
00:38:19.860 alternating colors but when it's the sun just goes down there and the light is coming from
00:38:28.560 the hall and are full gathered inside the doors open you see that warm light come out but what
00:38:33.300 you also see on the sides is the light lit from the inside of the hoff in these beautiful colors
00:38:39.500 and it's it's a really really pretty thing if you get a chance to see it
00:38:43.740 uh yeah so i'm i'm all for that mike you got any thought on stained glass
00:38:48.520 it is beautiful absolutely gorgeous and uh it's and matt i'll add on to it it's it's really pretty
00:38:56.640 outside baldershoff when it has a light blanket of snow so you have the beautiful white dark white
00:39:03.040 ground with these pungent blues and yellows or at least i can tell they're pungent blues and
00:39:08.160 yellows coming through um being able to see all that that is very beautiful at night
00:39:14.800 uh stained glass i know is soup to me it looks it's one of those like
00:39:20.080 it looks so hard to work with people say oh it's not that bad i say i i believe you
00:39:26.640 so next question is from the king of cheese what is saver and how if possible can it be used by
00:39:37.300 also true today so that's a that's a broad question that i think a comprehensive answer
00:39:47.660 to exactly what is say there and what counts is tricky um safe practice involves
00:40:01.100 very often involves trance work it involves letting
00:40:08.780 it involves interacting with spirits other than yourself in a way that
00:40:17.660 they can work through you or perhaps that you can work through them um and i'm being
00:40:30.060 i'm being non-specific on purpose because i don't want to narrow the definition
00:40:35.180 but those things are very often involved in it in our ancestral tradition it was most office
00:40:43.100 often practiced by women but um as as mike mentioned earlier there is uh you know talk
00:40:50.140 about rowd practicing that perhaps um it was something that the goddess freya taught the
00:40:56.620 all-father odin um but yeah it involves contacting entities outside yourself in in a spiritual or
00:41:09.100 magical way. And that's part of, part of that practice. Along with that are a number of
00:41:16.260 different things. Um, the idea of possession, the idea of projection of your spirit into other
00:41:24.620 things. There's a lot, and to talk comprehensively about it is difficult. First, if, of course,
00:41:40.880 it can be used. If it can be used then, it can be used now. I think one of the things
00:41:45.260 that greatly assist in it being useful is people that have a natural inclination towards
00:41:54.600 I think we've all known people that are, you know, a little bit more spooky than the rest of us and have a better time interacting with spirits than the rest of us, folks that, you know, pick up on subtle things the rest of us don't.
00:42:13.640 perhaps people that have, as some more ancestors would call it, second sight, those kind of things, people that shine, that kind of stuff.
00:42:23.240 That helps. What else I think helps is as we build a culture and a context for it,
00:42:32.020 it can strengthen techniques that came, that were much better developed in the time of our ancestors
00:42:41.540 and have laid fallow for a really long time now.
00:42:44.660 So I think as that progresses,
00:42:46.840 we'll see more efficacy in the use of that
00:42:50.880 in modern house of true.
00:42:52.400 I know that was a really, really vague answer,
00:42:54.820 but it was so I didn't leave anything out
00:42:58.320 or so I didn't paint myself into a corner on it.
00:43:01.360 I don't claim to be, you know, I do some things.
00:43:06.360 I claim to be a good gothy.
00:43:08.360 I don't claim to be a great Vicky, however.
00:43:11.540 So. There's that. Nathan, Mike, what are some of the current projects happening in York's off?
00:43:23.720 Oh, we're to start the list. So we've got a couple of them right now.
00:43:30.880 One, the. We one of the easier projects we hope to get knocked out, we have a workday coming up, securing the playground.
00:43:40.180 we have some fencing down we've got to put up that's an easy project um putting up the maypole
00:43:45.860 for mayday's celebration that's an easy project some of the longer term bigger projects that we
00:43:51.940 have we've got to get a gutter system um it's interfering with some of our septic and it's
00:43:57.860 just that's that in of itself is we have to get gutters that's a that's one of our big projects
00:44:03.620 um we've got to do some painting um we have some indoor painting and outdoor painting that needs
00:44:08.900 to be done um we've got to the big project the project that i am honestly wanting to see the
00:44:20.820 most done is moving the kitchen from the closet to a room in the back um so i'm one of the i'm
00:44:29.540 one of the big cooks i'm the cook however you want to dice that one up
00:44:32.740 But our kitchen is a closet at Nordhoff.
00:44:37.420 It is extremely tiny.
00:44:40.060 In fact, it's funny because Alan,
00:44:42.980 what now will ask, well, why don't you ask for help?
00:44:45.020 And I've looked at him and said,
00:44:47.040 because no one else can fit in the kitchen.
00:44:49.280 So it's a very tiny kitchen.
00:44:50.860 So one of our big projects right now
00:44:52.860 is we've got some space in the back.
00:44:55.540 Since it's Florida, plumbing's not,
00:44:58.120 and the way the building was done initially,
00:45:01.440 plumbing's not the end of the world to move um i've learned that because i think i've touched
00:45:07.400 every inch of plumbing in that building at this point and some on the outside dug it up
00:45:11.800 um so we're looking at we've got to move the kitchen we need more space for that
00:45:17.660 especially when we start looking at uh we're getting certified with usda for our food pantry
00:45:24.500 So we've got to have space for the freezers for that. It's just in general, we need a bigger kitchen. So that's our big one. I like to joke that I have a little small, you know, 20 foot RV. It has a bigger kitchen than Nortoff. So, but hey, I still like to think I try to make some magic happen out of that.
00:45:46.900 and you do you do an amazing job there i think that folks think you're exaggerating when you
00:45:52.780 talk about your rv kitchen being bigger than your soft kitchen i've been there and i don't think you
00:45:58.200 are um all right so gothy daniel young says mike rumor has it you are a mead maker can you tell
00:46:11.560 us about that process and do you make mead with devotion in mind uh so i'll yes i love to brew um
00:46:23.880 i am a very much a traditional brewer i i don't like to add flavorings i've only added
00:46:31.800 extra spice once and fruit once i um i have that my mead flavoring i like a traditional
00:46:41.160 thick mead um i and the reason is with with the second part of that to question more of devotion
00:46:47.800 in mind if you think about traditional mead making it would have been done in whatever vessel they
00:46:53.000 could find right so arguably clay pots is some form of vessel depending on where you know i think
00:47:00.920 in fact i think archaeological has clay pots that could be wrong spawn will probably correct me on
00:47:04.280 that one or or tell me i'm completely right with sources um but what a lot of what it would be is
00:47:10.600 a mixture of water and then wild yeast and so you were never going to really cultivation of yeast
00:47:20.760 has only really been a more modern thing to my understanding we've only really started true
00:47:25.800 cultivation of yeast 15 16 hundreds on and please do not quote me on that that's just off of my own
00:47:34.760 top of my head i i like to read stuff about yeast because if you talk to any brewer the comment the
00:47:40.440 the conversation will always go back to what yeast are you using um so I like to go what I
00:47:47.740 would think would be a tradition a authentic to our to you know pre 1000 common era mead which
00:48:00.020 would be a thick sweet mead because it'd be it one it'd be extremely hard to seal it up to get it
00:48:07.780 it'd be hard to seal it up to the extent to make it dry. And then again, it would be extremely
00:48:14.620 hard to cultivate enough yeast to make it dry. So that's one reason I really enjoy. I like a
00:48:23.020 sweet mead. So do I do it with devotion in mind? Yes and no. That is a practice that I've started
00:48:31.960 on some of my newer batches of um with more it will i'm not gonna you know i don't want to say
00:48:39.800 oh i made mead because i was one to make some you know honey wine no i made mean with the idea that
00:48:45.640 it could be used for devotion i've i've only more recently in the past year or two or a couple of
00:48:52.260 years made the mental adjustment to make the devotion while i brew mead if that makes sense
00:49:00.540 so it rather than it just making alcohol it's become a almost spiritual form of uh brewing it
00:49:10.040 in fact when i do my um racking which is moving the liquid from one vessel to another i actually
00:49:17.600 will sacrifice part of that and put on my altar overnight so good deal so next question is oh um
00:49:30.400 First, I don't recall if you did this or not, but earlier in the broadcast, did you give, you know, approximate years for when, when Roud lived?
00:49:42.300 so the we know he died around 1 000 as far as age and all i did not find any source anything
00:49:52.580 that would put a chronological time frame that i saw to say he was 27 38 it i never really found in
00:50:01.640 hold on give me one second
00:50:05.960 yes i have my sources with me because i am that big of a nerd um
00:50:13.480 i i don't i've everything i've i've looked at oh one more
00:50:21.480 even though i've read all of this today or more or last night i've none of it says how old he was
00:50:30.520 Okay. So the entirety of his life, unless he was very, very ancient, took place in the 10th century. Just not sure if we covered that, but so people are aware.
00:50:42.680 Next question is, all right. Mike, are you still a Mason? If so, what degree? And do you know the Hebrew origins and purpose of Freemasonry? Thank you.
00:50:56.980 so to answer in line uh no i have not been a freemason since probably 2011 i would say at
00:51:07.620 the absolute latest most likely probably 2010 um i had reached the degree of master mason
00:51:14.380 and i'm pretty sure at some point i have heard the word the hebrew origins of it and
00:51:21.460 i have found that to be a part of my life that let me phrase that hold on i don't necessarily
00:51:29.120 say that i think of it as a great you know if if an individual is looking for a men's club that's
00:51:35.240 not a bad way to go i will say that i understand that it has hebrew origins okay however i got out
00:51:44.600 of it, something completely different is I got out Ossetru, which I may be one of the only people
00:51:51.500 who've ever come out of the Freemasons and converted to Ossetru. And the Freemasons being
00:51:56.340 the link to me finding the person that got me into this. So a short answer is no, I'm not a long
00:52:04.940 of the rest of it is I'm sure I've learned about it at some point. However, there have been much
00:52:11.140 better memories that have come along the way to where I'd rather remember those than that.
00:52:17.080 If that makes sense. All right. It does. Next question.
00:52:26.420 Matt and Mike, great to see you from Australia. What are your thoughts on Loki,
00:52:32.760 future Loka Hoff, a video explaining AAFA's relationship with him? So I know that folks
00:52:40.700 over in the chat room jumped on you a little bit first thank you for joining us i'm glad you're
00:52:44.860 here uh it's great to have somebody listening from australia um people have made our position
00:52:54.540 and the afa has made their position very clear in the past on loki but i understand that you know
00:52:59.260 everybody is not a not an expert on the afa's positions and that's fine
00:53:03.820 uh no the afa stands firmly against loki in all ways that we can
00:53:09.100 um i also read some of your questions or some of your comments on the side
00:53:14.780 um trying to contextualize loki's existence but what's really important for us who practice
00:53:23.580 ousatru is what that word means and it's very often miss uh mistranslated as belief in the
00:53:35.180 the Aesir. And it doesn't mean that. It means troth with. It means to be true to the Aesir.
00:53:42.760 It means loyalty to the Aesir. And if we stand loyal with the Aesir, that means de facto we
00:53:50.960 stand against their enemies, which Loki certainly is. We couldn't in good conscience have a Hoff
00:54:01.080 to worship balder and also celebrate uh his slayer through treachery um so yeah the afa
00:54:10.440 stands firmly against loki um i certainly hope that there is never a loki hof and if there were
00:54:16.440 the afa would want no involvement with that whatsoever um there's no real need to make a
00:54:23.320 video explaining our relationship with loki because it's it's very simple and it's very
00:54:28.280 clear cut he stands on one side and we stand very firmly on the other um but i know that that's
00:54:34.680 question that probably a lot of folks have uh and i know it's a question a lot of new people have
00:54:39.320 so i appreciate you coming and i answer or and asking it this evening
00:54:44.600 uh daniel says have you learned different things from each of the hoffs and perhaps from their
00:54:51.000 cultural differences he didn't put a name on it so i'm going to steal an answer at the end of it
00:54:55.800 but uh mike go ahead and and go have you learned different things from each the hoffs that you
00:55:00.840 visited and uh have you noticed the cultural differences absolutely so i'll start i'll go
00:55:09.800 with baldur's hoff thors and then ours um the norther's uh so baldur's hoff it was uh we
00:55:16.200 we were we had me and my wife had the wonderful pleasure of sitting yule with them and they have a
00:55:23.080 and please excuse me i'm not saying if i say it about one half doesn't mean it's not true about
00:55:30.140 others it's just that was a you know something it's something noticed there if that makes
00:55:35.500 hopefully you'll allow me that um there's a balder's half has an overwhelming amount of piety
00:55:46.400 um and i mean that with absolute all respect that i can possibly give so what was really
00:55:52.880 interesting when i was at baldur's hawth is the amount of leadership that is there
00:55:58.160 um people devoted to it i mean that is um you know everybody there it's it's i felt like they
00:56:07.340 were like my like their lives were like mine was it's a you plan your month and your weeks
00:56:14.440 about getting to the hawk it's it's not about you know when can i go jet skiing again or when can i
00:56:20.560 you know go to the beach it's about when can i go to the hawk um and so i felt that very much
00:56:28.600 at baldur's hawk not that i'm saying that thor's hawk didn't that please don't think better that
00:56:33.280 our hawk doesn't um it's just that was a very overwhelming feeling um they introduced me uh
00:56:40.320 Witten Callahan introduced me to the concept of a folk flame, something that I absolutely love.
00:56:47.260 Walking in, passing your hand over it, you know, or having someone light it with the idea of here are the things to think about right now.
00:56:55.880 And that is just such an amazing idea is to have that folk flame.
00:56:59.240 And the idea that it brings other people into the service as well.
00:57:06.240 So that was Baldershof.
00:57:07.920 Thor's Hoff has an amazing amount of strength in it the people there are have this aura about them
00:57:17.880 that I mean you I mean it's and Matt I hope you agree like we'll walk away from a weekend
00:57:24.860 and our voice we can't speak for three days right we walk away from Thor's Hoff we can't speak for
00:57:30.140 a week so it's a situation of there's so much strength so much commitment and so much love
00:57:37.840 for that Hoth. And that's where there is, and we talked about it a little bit at Thor's Hoth
00:57:43.680 this weekend, but it was their strength in and of itself. So that the Youngs, the Easts,
00:57:53.600 which now that he's at our, now he's with us, but still they were there and that the amount
00:57:56.940 of work they did before we were able to get ours, before we were able to get North's Hoth.
00:58:00.120 um and i'm i'm the the heralds i'm leaving people out and i do apologize but it's
00:58:06.660 you get a sense of this very of strength and a strong community there
00:58:12.260 nord's hoff you get it you get it's it's kind of funny so my my vision's a little skewed because
00:58:19.920 i feel like when i'm at the hoff i'm always under a sink or cooking or something like that
00:58:24.920 you get an amazing sense of camaraderie and friendship at nords hall um i think you get
00:58:33.480 good food but you know i'm a little biased there the camaraderie and friendship the hospitality
00:58:40.100 that you get when you come all the way down south so uh you know welcoming it welcoming
00:58:46.220 you with sweet tea and showing you around um that that's the southern way to do it right
00:58:51.960 I like to say, and I've said it before and I say it again, you're not going to meet a stranger at Nordshoff.
00:59:00.860 We're all there. We're all family. And we do our absolute best to make everybody welcome.
00:59:05.900 So what have I learned from the Hoffs? That's how I feel. What have I actually learned?
00:59:14.480 Baldershoff taught me the importance of the folk and making sure the folk feel like they're a part of it.
00:59:21.960 we work in leadership so hard to be what we are and you know we sit around and do our absolute
00:59:28.160 best but at the end of the day we've also got to make sure that the folk feel like they're included
00:59:33.640 um that's what Baldershoff taught me with the folk flame and I remember Brandy and Jamie and
00:59:40.220 and everybody there saying and Nathan oh my gosh Nathan um doing uh doing his stuff talking about
00:59:46.760 you know this is what we you know the folk flame and this is what it means to us um if you ever get
00:59:52.280 a chance uh brandy's lecture on true north my gosh that thing still gives me the goosebumps as
00:59:57.680 i talked about earlier um thorshoff taught me to definitely have strength in the folk to believe
01:00:05.340 in the folk to know that we are here for everybody else we we feel that we know that but
01:00:12.580 you know it's kind of like that you taste something you you taste mead for the first
01:00:20.380 time you know it's good but you don't know why right so that was kind of the same thing you know
01:00:25.420 there's strength in the folk you know and not just strength in numbers strength as in in faith
01:00:32.680 strength as in we are on the right path uh you know i've looked at alan multiple times at the
01:00:38.540 end of a service and say brother we are really we are right on track man we are we are doing the
01:00:43.100 right thing um and then we come down to um north talk where we just try to exude that that folkness
01:00:53.340 the bringing everybody home the griff the frith trying to build that as much as possible um if
01:00:59.460 you don't mind me telling a side note on that uh matt so um is that okay yeah please do hey mike mike
01:01:07.040 Mike, on any of this, please feel free to tell us any story you like.
01:01:10.580 We love having you on here as a guest, and we're going to go ahead and listen.
01:01:14.060 So it was Yule 2022 at Nordshoff.
01:01:18.160 Service was amazing.
01:01:20.100 The whole day was just fantastic.
01:01:22.680 We were at that night.
01:01:24.820 And so we had a first time we had built out.
01:01:28.820 I'd gone over a couple of weekends before, and I'd built out the fire pit,
01:01:31.880 hoping that we were going to use the fire pit because it's Yule.
01:01:34.760 Why not use the fire pit, right?
01:01:36.700 it gets dark at like, you know, two in the afternoon. So Allen decided to have,
01:01:43.620 Witten Allen decided to have Sambul around the fire pit. So first, before I continue the story,
01:01:50.540 shout out to all the ladies who had to walk the horn around that fire pit,
01:01:54.640 because they did a lot of walking through some still kind of tall grass that we just didn't
01:01:59.220 get a chance to get down yet. But I remember we had a member and he had his girlfriend there.
01:02:04.680 I'm not going to give names, but she was there and she's, she set Sambal with us.
01:02:09.640 And at one point she basically, as most of us, Sambal will bring us to tears.
01:02:15.940 We, you know, I think that's a universal thing.
01:02:17.460 And I think Sambal, I don't, I'm not going to say Sambal should bring you to tears.
01:02:22.900 You should allow yourself to feel Sambal.
01:02:28.540 It is one of the most powerful things you can sit through.
01:02:31.580 um i i've said this many and many of times i'll say it many more if you sit samba with the same
01:02:38.700 man three times and don't hear his voice crack you know that that's very very rare um and i mean
01:02:45.700 crack as in just they're feeling it they feel the emotion in it so back to the story she uh
01:02:51.340 she stood up and gave a toast talked about you know she was she had known about this she was
01:02:59.220 she liked it was more of and i don't want to i'm not trying to give away anything but
01:03:05.000 the idea that she not necessarily was a hundred percent in the when she stepped on the property
01:03:12.040 that day you know she brand new couple i mean this was their this was his second event i think
01:03:18.080 her first she got up dear ensemble and basically poured her heart out and i vividly remember
01:03:28.040 because i was standing next to alan on his on his uh on his left i vividly remember me and alan
01:03:34.640 putting our arms around each other both of us with a tear in our eye and say this is why we do it
01:03:39.540 you know this is what makes all of the time energy money whatever this is what it is for
01:03:49.460 is when you get to see that that exchange you know it's of course we want our members when they
01:03:56.800 The first time they step foot, we want them all to be 100%.
01:04:00.040 But that's asking a lot, right?
01:04:02.600 We want them to be most of the way there.
01:04:04.560 But to see her come as a guest of a member and then it just become an amazing, wonderful thing.
01:04:13.180 That was one of my absolute, that memory I will cherish for many years to come.
01:04:17.480 And of course, that around a giant bonfire outside where Alan is having to tell us to quiet down so we didn't disturb the neighbors.
01:04:28.500 You know, it's a great day in the AFA when the witness having to tell you to quiet down so the neighbors don't call the cops.
01:04:36.040 So that's during Sambal. So that's I forgot. We must have had 50 people around that campfire for Sambal. That was great.
01:04:47.480 No, that's awesome. Thank you for sharing the story with us. I've said that on here before,
01:04:55.600 but that's one of the most special things is when you're there and you get to look in someone's eye
01:05:01.940 and see when it became real for them. And Sambul is a time that makes things very real. It's such
01:05:08.120 a powerful thing to bring people together. We had a particularly beautiful Sambul I felt at Ostara
01:05:14.640 this last weekend very much so um you know i know i was tearing up a couple of times
01:05:20.480 uh it was it was really powerful i thought can i uh let me let me one more i'm gonna one more
01:05:26.160 interjection go for it second so that would that my i don't want to say that was my favorite it
01:05:31.920 was one of the most touching one of my other favorite memories of sambal was actually um
01:05:38.160 unfortunately you i really wish you were feeling better and you didn't miss it it was uh sambal
01:05:43.200 uh charming of the plow 2023 at north hall i remember i was sitting to i believe alan was
01:05:51.120 conducting sambal then as well i was sitting to his right so i would have been last right
01:05:55.920 and i look up and a buddy of my uh drake one of the members uh out of atlanta area i could see
01:06:02.880 something in his eye had changed from that day you know we had talked about we had talked about
01:06:08.880 something with his then girlfriend we all joked wife because it was easier to remember wife um
01:06:15.120 and so i remember something in his eye was different i looked over him i said you want
01:06:19.200 to go last don't you and he goes yeah i do and i remember the horn being two people down three
01:06:26.000 people down and me and him getting up and switching because during that when it came the
01:06:30.880 horn finally came around to him he dropped to one knee and proposed so she accepted awesome
01:06:36.720 but it was a um it was just so that was a an amazing experience to be a part of
01:06:45.500 i mean it was our first national event at north off uh and to have something that epic
01:06:52.080 so and it looks like as of right now they are going to be the first wedding at the
01:06:56.740 in september that's awesome proposals proposals at sunbel are good stuff
01:07:02.900 um yeah I was going to say back to the original question just
01:07:08.780 it's really interesting and those of us that have been fortunate enough to be at the different
01:07:16.240 Hoffs they really all do have a different feel to them they develop their own culture they develop
01:07:22.800 their own strengths and their own weaknesses I think internally very often we look at what Hoffs
01:07:29.160 you know, can do better, what they need to tighten up on. That's part of leadership. But
01:07:36.220 all too often, we don't stop and think of just some of the really special things that these
01:07:41.620 Hoffs bring as far as their culture and things they've succeeded at. Odin's Hoff, you know,
01:07:49.980 it's had the longest time to develop and to, you know, establish some of the ways it does things.
01:07:56.660 but odenshoff really leads the pack when it comes to computer community involvement uh the odenshoff
01:08:03.460 food pantry every month there are hundreds over a hundred families that get fed every single month
01:08:12.500 there are our cars lined up to the point of where we've had to really engineer some stuff
01:08:18.100 and figure stuff out because it becomes a problem it blocks up roadways all of the people lined up
01:08:25.540 to get food and the town of brownsville is so very appreciative of that
01:08:30.260 and that's definitely an odenshoff thing that uh they've really pioneered there um thorshoff
01:08:41.460 so it's it's interesting because piety is shown in different ways the uh
01:08:48.580 congregational culture of thorshoff i think is the tightest
01:08:52.340 um their dress their behavior they're taking everything very very seriously
01:09:00.320 um it's it's such a good a good culture that i'm so proud of all in all their their congregation
01:09:10.760 there is you know exactly what we you know i think exactly may be too strong but of the
01:09:20.420 Hoffs, it's what we want on the poster. Those guys are doing that right. They're doing it
01:09:26.360 really well. And their Hoff culture there is probably the best. But Balders Hoff, you have
01:09:32.000 these people that are very devoted, like you said, and they get stuff done. Their organizational
01:09:38.000 structure in that whole district is leading the way for everyone else. And they have such a get
01:09:46.680 or done attitude, making things work there. It's really nice to see. And then watching what you
01:09:52.000 guys are developing down at Yortsov. It's really neat. Your hospitality culture there, I think,
01:09:59.260 is the best so far. Like you were talking about your little tiny, I mean,
01:10:06.440 small bathroom sized kitchen. Our bathrooms are bigger than our kitchen.
01:10:12.660 you know they really are yes your bathrooms aren't and they're not big bathrooms but they
01:10:19.220 are bigger than your kitchen so you guys are doing amazing things with that uh you specifically are
01:10:24.680 doing amazing things with that well that's uh one of the things that i found up so if i let me
01:10:30.120 interject real quick it was uh one of the things that i have started so i have a couple of one
01:10:37.700 thing that I like to do in a tradition that I do in the kitchen at the Hoff. The thing that I like
01:10:42.920 to do is I like to cook outside. The reason is, I mean, we're both men. We can agree. If you're at
01:10:51.340 a party and there's a guy next to a barbecue grill, where do you want to be? You go stand
01:10:55.720 next to the barbecue grill, right? There's a guy boiling something. You're going to go stand next
01:11:00.020 to the guy boiling something next to a propane tank. I have found that that is a really great
01:11:06.140 way for men to gather outside. Um, so that's one, I don't necessarily have the space to do it
01:11:13.600 indoors, but two, that brings a lot of good frith and grith to the half to building that
01:11:19.520 relationships, building it. And it was funny because food will be done cooking. I'll walk
01:11:24.740 out 20, 30, 45 minutes later to clean up. And the same guys looks like they haven't even moved
01:11:30.920 kind of like a King of the Hill where they're all standing in the alley. It's like that. They're
01:11:35.440 just sitting there chit chatting and talking like they had nothing had changed here i am 15 you know
01:11:40.760 15 things done checked off the list and they're sitting there having wonderful conversations and
01:11:46.260 that's to me that's very magical um one of the other things i like is um is we don't put food
01:11:53.400 waste uh we don't throw away food waste so i'm not talking about stuff off of plates i'm talking
01:11:59.060 about onion skins uh leftover bread stuff like that uh all of that goes as a sacrifice into the
01:12:06.340 pond so it gives back to the goes back to the animals and gives back to the earth but we still
01:12:11.380 got no gators right correct um there was talk that there might be gators i can tell you that
01:12:19.140 i have walked those out let's see i i can't even begin to tell you how many weekends in a row i've
01:12:26.020 I've been to the hof, sometimes twice in one week.
01:12:30.560 And so I've never heard.
01:12:34.860 With the very rare.
01:12:36.340 So a gator is mainly dangerous when it's mainly females.
01:12:41.200 They are very dangerous when they have their children or eggs.
01:12:45.460 OK, another thing about gators, males are dangerous if you approach them.
01:12:50.780 They're like snakes.
01:12:51.480 They're more afraid of you than you are of them.
01:12:53.160 so with that being said the amount of time i have spent around that around the hof and around
01:12:59.280 the two lakes i have seen nothing that indicated an alligator unfortunately i'm right there with
01:13:04.860 you um but yeah i want a gator in that front pond i i will do my best you gotta make it happen
01:13:13.620 yes all right so brandy asked mike what is your secret to the perfect cheeseburger soup
01:13:19.560 all right so a little backstory on this one um i was up at i was it was december at yule at
01:13:27.680 baldur's hall we had brandy was going to i don't remember what came first the need for a dish for
01:13:36.300 for kids or the need for a non-gluten dish i don't remember you know what came first the
01:13:43.060 flour or the need to not have flour um but so brandy came up with this soup that she had made
01:13:49.920 she said she had kind of made it once or twice and it was she taught me her version of cheeseburger
01:13:54.820 soup phenomenal soup i i absolutely actually i really enjoy making it i have made it multiple
01:14:00.980 times since then and i had actually a lot of fun making it um kids and i made it for
01:14:08.860 i don't remember which hoff event because i also made another soup that she had taught me
01:14:15.640 um neffle soup i think i made neffle and i think i came back in january and made neffle soup and
01:14:21.860 cheeseburger soup for um north hoff and it was funny the adults were like yeah the neffle soup
01:14:29.600 is really good but i want to get more is there any more of this cheeseburger soup so i thought
01:14:35.600 It's kind of funny, you know, the adults are going after the cheeseburger soup, and rightfully so, it's good.
01:14:40.460 The secret that I have found, I drain my grease once I've cooked the ground beef, and instead of using ketchup, I use barbecue sauce.
01:14:53.580 I cut my pickles a little bit bigger so that they don't just completely disintegrate.
01:14:59.960 And those are my, those are the only tweaks that I have really made to Brandy's recipe.
01:15:07.760 Whitten Callahan's recipe, sorry.
01:15:09.440 There you have it.
01:15:12.100 So next question, can I mail in donations to the Hoff instead of giving them to places like Goodwill?
01:15:18.820 Of course you can.
01:15:20.160 It's a good time to point this out.
01:15:22.240 um we are a completely legitimate 501c3 church so all donations made to us are tax deductible
01:15:32.320 um nick will throw some links up but there are a number of ways you can donate through
01:15:37.840 any of any and all of our websites you can donate through those sites to those particular
01:15:44.560 hoffs or to the afa general fund in general and we can distribute it how it needs to go
01:15:50.000 So there are, you know, the answer is yes on how to donate.
01:15:57.220 If you want to mail in donations, Nick will also throw up a link to our P.O. Box to where we can take donations.
01:16:05.680 Please don't mail them to the physical addresses listed on those Hoff sites because not all of those receive mail.
01:16:10.900 But if you put in the notation what it's for, we're happy to take your donations to P.O. Box.
01:16:20.020 And I'm putting this out here because folks may not see it.
01:16:22.980 P.O. Box 16027, Tallahassee, Florida, 32317.
01:16:32.240 Yeah, please feel free.
01:16:34.120 And we're very much appreciative that's something you would consider doing.
01:16:37.020 We do food pantries at each of our Hoffs every single month, and those are a big deal to the communities that we operate in.
01:16:46.140 We also have charitable outreach that typically goes in the form of food to our folk who are our ethnic folk who are being mistreated in South Africa.
01:16:58.560 So we have a number of different charity things that we do if you'd like to be involved in helping with that.
01:17:03.440 uh sarah says have you ever read henry wadsworth longfellow's poem tale of wayside in 1863
01:17:13.860 there is a section called the musician's tale the saga of king olaf that talks
01:17:20.460 of the pursuit of ralb the strong there you go he's on top of it he's got it in his hand
01:17:28.720 and there's a there's a graphic even that we've got up which is cool if you don't mind real quick
01:17:36.400 far north in the sultan fjords by rape and fire and sword lives a viking rod the strong
01:17:43.160 all the goatee islands belong to him and his heathen horde a warlock a wizard is he a lord
01:17:51.420 of the wind and sea. And whichever way he sails, he has ever favoring gales by his craft and
01:17:59.180 sorcery. With rights we both adore, he worships Odin and Thor. So it cannot be said that all the
01:18:10.200 gods are dead and that the warlocks are no more. Henry Wadworth Longfellow. I love those three
01:18:17.220 standards. Well done to you both. And I'll build on that one. Sarah's absolutely correct. If you
01:18:28.580 get a chance, that entire book, The Wayfarer's End, The Tales from the Wayside End, is actually
01:18:35.000 a really neat read. It is literally, it's a poetic version of a bunch of people sitting around
01:18:43.280 telling stories and so they have all our come from different walks of life a musician a poet
01:18:51.440 i forget what all of them are um i have the i think 1929 copy because i like old books
01:18:57.840 um old things are fun but yeah they all come from uh students um a spaniard a sicilian a musician
01:19:05.680 a theologian um worth the pickup you can get them pretty cheap on ebay so it's the wayside
01:19:10.640 in or you can download it for free online i'm sure fails from the way side in
01:19:20.480 all right um so we only have two questions left if you guys have anything else you want to ask
01:19:28.320 please go ahead and get those questions in if not when we're done with only we'll
01:19:32.640 wish you all a good night and see you again next week
01:19:35.440 good evening matt and mike can you tell us about the banner behind you
01:19:44.480 so i believe this is directed at you mike can you tell i think so uh so this banner that's um
01:19:52.240 so above it those are two needle points that my wife have done um that's our altar there so we
01:19:58.480 have a very odd shaped house um the banner behind me you can kind of see it that is part of melissa
01:20:04.960 Mills made that to hang on the sign, the street sign at Lord's Hoff before we got our permanent
01:20:14.380 sign done. And so once we got our permanent sign, that one and its mate came down. Charming to the
01:20:21.680 plow, we said that we were going to auction one and hold on to one. And I was not letting anyone
01:20:27.780 walk out of that room with it except for me. So that's what that is. That is our, you can see
01:20:33.740 it's got the marlin on it established 2022 it says north off across the top
01:20:42.460 all right so um
01:20:49.660 next question here from obsidian skull what do you think about uh christians talking about
01:20:56.860 uniting against a common enemy with folkish heathens do you think that is something viable
01:21:03.740 or would you go full on rather uh rather in uh ramey way not sure what the last part means um
01:21:17.180 context is everything i don't know what that means certainly the current struggle uh culturally is
01:21:25.420 not Christian versus Ausatru. The current struggle is traditionally minded people versus
01:21:33.500 progressivism and leftism that is moving the culture in a direction that's far from our values.
01:21:44.120 As far as that goes, certainly there's plenty of room for us to work together with Christians
01:21:49.540 in community ways, in social ways, in political ways. There's a lot of ways for Alcetruar and
01:21:57.780 Christian to find common ground on a lot of issues. But what is very important is that those
01:22:05.700 distinctions aren't trivial. What I've seen with a lot of the younger generation that's involved
01:22:12.460 in things also true sounds cool because it fits their political viewpoint and that's an okay way
01:22:21.020 to start but it's very important that you're also true for the right reasons that you're also true
01:22:27.980 because you want to be also true and be loyal to our gods and your faith should affect your
01:22:35.020 politics not the other way around so um working with christians for common common values and
01:22:42.620 common goals i think is a very very good thing but you need to be strong in your in your faith
01:22:49.020 as an outsider and that needs to come first i've got a couple more questions populated here
01:22:58.700 matt speaking of strength can you touch on the need for physical excellence
01:23:02.940 as opposed to giving into the soul sickness that manifests in a physical way absolutely so um
01:23:14.300 in in america specifically we have a a very big problem with obesity um
01:23:27.500 there's plenty of other physical ways that people aren't healthy and should fix that
01:23:31.980 but the biggest one i think that affects our people is
01:23:37.580 extreme levels of obesity and there's all kind of there's so many different ways
01:23:46.220 that you can take that and things that you can say about it um i believe very strongly that
01:23:52.700 your your physical condition in so many ways is a reflection of your spiritual condition
01:24:02.300 and physical fitness or physical fatness is a
01:24:09.820 it reflects on on some of your values for someone to be in shape in the world that we live in takes
01:24:16.520 discipline. It takes perseverance. It takes a lot of effort and it does speak a lot to character.
01:24:25.360 It takes a lot of work to get in good shape. It takes a lot of work to stay in good shape. It
01:24:30.100 takes a lot of work to overcome, especially if you start in a spot where you're very out of shape.
01:24:35.760 And it takes a lot to maintain that. And these things say a lot about who you are and how you
01:24:40.880 value yourself. The other thing that I don't want to shy away from is that looks matter.
01:24:46.520 We should look our very best. People ask all the time on here what we can do to, you know,
01:24:52.100 how do we convince people that Alistair is good? How do I convince my family? How do I bring people
01:24:56.740 home to Alistair? Your physical appearance is the first line of, I guess, first line of defense and
01:25:05.940 first line of offense in this war for hearts and minds. When people see you, you are a walking
01:25:13.780 poster for house of true and a walking poster for the astro focus center you should want to look
01:25:19.700 your best for us for the gods for your spouse for your family an example for your children
01:25:28.420 example for everyone so these are really important things and aside from just the visual and the way
01:25:34.900 it reflects on character it's also terrible health wise it is a huge cause of health problems
01:25:44.020 especially as our population ages it's bad on joints all the other normal things but it relates
01:25:50.100 to so many other conditions that are on the side of it so it's really important in the afa that we
01:25:55.140 We try to fix that. And when I say fix that, it's really hard when you're very far from a goal that
01:26:06.120 you may have, but it's not our all or nothing thing. Fixing that means let's try to get us
01:26:14.040 all a little better tomorrow than we are today and a little better a year from now than we are
01:26:19.400 right now. And over time, I've talked about this in terms of victory in any way, but it's a game
01:26:26.000 of inches and it's a game of small steps. And you lay little victory on top of little victory on top
01:26:30.440 of little victory. And that's what gets you to that big victory. So it's really important that
01:26:35.480 our people work on our physical appearance, work on our physical health, and that we are an example
01:26:42.320 to others to do so as well. I would love to see that be a defining thing in the Astro Folk
01:26:48.600 assembly in our church. But I know it's something that folks struggle with, and we're trying to do
01:26:55.080 everything we can to help that out and to get people more positive. One of the other things
01:27:00.260 that I'll say about it is it has a lot to do with your self-confidence or lack thereof.
01:27:06.440 When you look good, you feel good. When you look good, you hold yourself a certain way.
01:27:11.020 When you're proud of your appearance, you hold yourself and you carry yourself a certain way.
01:27:14.860 that collectively builds power. The more of us that have that self-confidence and have that
01:27:22.340 power, we share that power like we share things ensemble and we become better as a church and
01:27:28.400 better as a people. So it's very important to us. We're going to work on ways to try to help
01:27:33.420 our folk get better in that regard. Do you mind if I add in real quick?
01:27:39.380 Mike, I done told you. Please add in whatever you like.
01:27:42.020 one of the things i love to see is when my fellow folk builders are doing outdoor moots so it's not
01:27:49.780 a secret we do we try every folk builder and apprentice tries to do one moot a month right
01:27:55.340 we know that that's our normal thing and it's i tell you what some of my outdoor moots have been
01:28:01.820 so much more fun than just hey we're meeting at a bar so we uh we went i took a bunch of guys this
01:28:08.480 was this was before i want to say uh november october november we did a moot where a but i
01:28:18.460 figured out a bunch of us used to skateboard or longboard and at some point we all went out and
01:28:23.960 skateboarded and longboarded together down like a rails to trails kind of thing and we had the
01:28:29.160 best time we met at a brewery all skated a little bit when bat had some wonderful um had a beer or
01:28:35.220 two, talked a little bit, and then we left. We talked earlier about time driving. I drove three
01:28:41.040 hours to hang out with some of the best people in the area, some of the best people. And I would do
01:28:46.400 it again in an absolute heartbeat. I'd love to see some of the lifting moots that the Northwest does
01:28:52.540 and the Midwest does, or Middle East, however you want to divide it. Baldur's Hof area, some of the,
01:29:00.620 I want to say it's the was it Washington State that does a lot of lifting moots or gym moots.
01:29:06.500 I love that. I think that's awesome. I love the hiking moots that are coming out of the Baldershof district where people are going hiking.
01:29:14.040 They're doing stuff. That's the kind of we know it's it's we can all have a great time at a restaurant.
01:29:20.540 And yes, there is a time and a place to have a great meal.
01:29:23.260 I honestly, I'm one of the first people that will tell you, I think feasting is a very, very important part of our faith and religion.
01:29:32.500 And a very important part of who we are is to share a meal together.
01:29:37.280 But with that, we also, to give you credit, we also need to not always just belly up to the feast table, so to speak.
01:29:47.200 So, yeah, I know I try to do more and more outside.
01:29:51.140 As a rule, Americans and around the world, we all need to be outside more.
01:29:58.120 I'm a particular fan of the idea of grounding, walking around barefoot on the ground and on dirt and grass.
01:30:06.740 But with that, I'll end my little diatribe in saying, Alan, if you're listening, yes, I will be at the gym tomorrow.
01:30:15.920 Good deal. And yes, last speaker is listening. He's over in the side in the chat.
01:30:21.140 Um, Bodie asks, Mike, when will the first AFA disc golf tournament at Njortov be?
01:30:30.180 When we can find more than three of us that do it, buddy, I'll be more than happy.
01:30:34.240 In fact, I'll even put up a couple of discs for prizes.
01:30:37.380 We just got to find a couple more people in the district and we'll figure out a central place to hold a tournament.
01:30:44.800 So I don't know why he's asking. He knows I'm going to beat him, but, you know.
01:30:47.860 um okay can you speak on women blessing the mead at events attending our first event soon
01:30:58.720 and curious about the practice all right so this practice
01:31:02.560 not sure if brandy is still listening or not but we've got some some of our afa history on it
01:31:12.700 I believe Goethe David James, who's no longer with us, he passed in 2014, I believe.
01:31:22.500 I believe he was the guy that started that idea.
01:31:27.180 But I'm hoping somebody on the side checks me if I'm wrong.
01:31:30.460 But this is a time-honored AFA practice where our ladies go off with the mead that we're going to do for ritual.
01:31:37.860 and you know all the all the women from from birth to birth to death anywhere in there go out there
01:31:47.840 and um enchant the mead to prepare it for ritual and fill it with with magic and with might
01:31:57.180 honestly i wish i could tell you i don't wish i can work poor turn of phrase because i really
01:32:04.040 don't want to well no because i really don't want to know i know i know it's right it's special
01:32:09.080 because it's it's a secret it's something that just our women do and the more secretive it is
01:32:15.640 the that adds a certain magical potency to it um i am unable to tell you much about the actual
01:32:24.520 what goes into it except for they always yell healthy babies at the end so i assume that
01:32:30.840 factors in and, you know, birth rates in the AFA are doing pretty good. So something's working,
01:32:36.280 but it's, it's a really special thing. Our ancestors. Okay. So I mentioned this earlier
01:32:43.280 in the, in the program with safe practice, there's some people that have the gift of
01:32:51.500 second sight or have these magical gifts more than others. And our ancestors have always believed
01:32:59.780 That women have a special connection to the divine in a way that's different than men do, and in a way that's particularly useful when it comes to imbuing things with magical power.
01:33:14.200 So are women using their inherent connection to the divine as a group to charge that mead to where it's prepared for our ritual?
01:33:26.920 That's what that's about. It's a very special thing that we do. And excellent. I'm excited to hear that you're planning on attending your first event. That's fantastic. I wish you the very best with that. I hope that turns out great.
01:33:41.320 um being from florida what do you think about house bill 269 uh that will make criticism of
01:33:52.360 jews a felony both of you please um mike do you have thoughts on house bill uh florida house bill
01:34:00.560 269 i have not i'll be perfectly honest i have not read it um i or i will not pretend to know
01:34:08.180 much of it. My head here of lately has not been in politics, nor has my heart by any stretch of
01:34:16.480 the imagination. Without going on a tirade, I don't want to give an opinion without actually
01:34:28.820 knowing more about it, to be perfectly honest, because we look at some of the other stuff the
01:34:33.560 great state of Florida has done where the media will label it one thing, but it actually means
01:34:37.760 another so and i'm not please don't think i'm trying to call you out if that's not what i'm
01:34:41.760 saying is i don't know enough of the bill to speak on it so that's that's right unfortunately that's
01:34:48.080 where i stand so um here's the thing uh giving commentary from the quote unquote pulpit about a
01:35:01.920 specific piece of legislation gets us very close to a line that's not appropriate for our 501c3
01:35:12.160 designation and i wouldn't want to do that secondly like mike said i'm not um
01:35:20.960 i'm not i haven't read that bill in its entirety i'm not overly familiar and i
01:35:25.680 don't want to speak on something i don't know about other thing i do want to say though is
01:35:31.920 Freedom of speech is really essential to be able to have discussions that need to happen.
01:35:41.120 And that's not a, that doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on or what side of
01:35:48.260 social issues or religious issues or anything else you're on.
01:35:52.300 If we don't have the ability to candidly speak our mind on things, then we can't have meaningful
01:36:00.180 discussion and without meaningful discussion, we limit our options on ways to change things.
01:36:06.680 Not only do I think it is inherently very unfair to limit the ability to speak, I also think it
01:36:14.320 is very dangerous because it takes away a whole lot of things in our toolbox of resolving issues.
01:36:21.480 And it only leaves, you know, very few things. And many of those things are very unpleasant.
01:36:27.360 It's a much better world for all of us when we can candidly discuss issues we agree on or issues we disagree on.
01:36:35.780 That is a pressure valve and a safeguard for all of us to feel like our voice is heard and like we can affect the world around us through civilized, nice means.
01:36:49.360 um i also again not knowing the bill but just taking your characterization from it i think that
01:36:58.160 it's it's very tricky when the rules the laws of our nation or our state protect
01:37:10.640 one group of people at the expense of another group of people and
01:37:18.400 It's funny because certain groups of people
01:37:21.540 always want to be treated fairly and equally
01:37:26.080 until they have an opportunity to make rules.
01:37:30.880 And then when they do to use that as a cudgel
01:37:33.920 to do things to other folks that a generation previous,
01:37:39.040 they were complaining about folks doing to them.
01:37:41.720 So I hope that's not the case.
01:37:45.020 That's the best that I've got on that right now.
01:37:48.640 And I hope that was worthwhile.
01:37:52.500 I wasn't trying to duck your question,
01:37:54.200 but like I said, I don't know that much about it.
01:37:56.420 And this isn't the platform to give specifics
01:38:00.260 on specific resolutions or bills.
01:38:05.060 Next question, what for you gentlemen?
01:38:08.680 Oh, next question for you gentlemen.
01:38:10.540 With the impending economic collapse
01:38:13.320 all the banks failing what if anything can we do to batten down the hatches and keep our families
01:38:21.800 uh and folk safe and secure um i think that's a leap um i think there there may very well be some
01:38:32.280 kinds of economic collapse in the future but i don't think that there's an impending economic
01:38:37.800 collapse that's right around the corner i think that people have been saying that for
01:38:44.040 my entire life and for the life of people older than myself and we haven't really seen it happen
01:38:48.440 in that way um but i think there's a lot of stuff we can do to help in times of economic uncertainty
01:38:57.880 and as far as like specific plans on that i'm not the economics guy but what i will say
01:39:03.880 that is really important to us in the afa is that we work together as a community
01:39:13.000 when we have a really tight religious community that takes care of one another
01:39:17.640 it buttresses us across the economy as opposed to so like
01:39:24.360 to feel that the entire american economy is going to collapse is kind of a an extreme position
01:39:30.600 And when I say that doesn't mean it can't happen. But I don't think that that's likely to happen. What I think is much more likely to happen is certain sectors of the economy collapsing very hard or having very hard times.
01:39:44.660 But one of the things that's really special with our community is that we've got, we're big enough now to where we have people in, you know, I can't say all economic, you know, spheres, but pretty much.
01:40:01.920 We've got people all across that economic spectrum in labor, in production, in technology, in the military, in civil and government services, in investing, in everything, to where if one thing fails, we have a bunch of us that are not failing.
01:40:24.520 and one thing we've tried really hard to do with the afa and i think we've been doing this since
01:40:29.400 i want to say 2013 or so we've had the folk services program and that's where we run fundraisers
01:40:37.480 and we you know we pretty much always have one going about a member or family within the afa
01:40:44.120 that are struggling and that's pooling monies together to help those people out of whatever
01:40:49.000 their situation is um we've helped a lot of people that way and it's not i understand that you're
01:40:55.400 asking a macro question and i'm giving you a micro answer but it's the answer that is honest and real
01:41:02.680 that i have access to there's very little that i think we can do as individuals to
01:41:10.760 fix all of white people's society if major governments of the world's economics completely
01:41:17.800 collapse but what we can do is with the groups that we are involved in is to pool resources
01:41:26.520 share the things we have and uh and do things that way what else i think is really important
01:41:32.200 in order to facilitate what i just talked about is for our people to move closer together
01:41:38.200 um segerheim is a big step forward in that and like i said cool if you don't want to if
01:41:46.760 if there's not space or if you're unable or you don't want to live on the property itself,
01:41:51.260 getting things close by is also a huge step. But it's not just there. We can do that right now
01:41:57.320 around any of our Hoffs. I would love to see more of our people moving to towns and counties that
01:42:02.700 we have Hoffs in and forming communities of Ausitru are there. The closer we live together,
01:42:09.040 the more able we are to help each other in any kind of hard times. In a natural or man-made
01:42:16.240 disaster in any kind of an economic downturn when any of us just have a crisis we are there and we
01:42:23.920 have folks that can help so i think that's what i would suggest are some good steps do you have
01:42:28.720 anything to add on that mike not that you haven't already said um i know one of the things i like
01:42:39.600 to do if i hear of a job opening in an area that somebody or a direct either a direct member or
01:42:46.880 direct family member if i know like i know for my job every so often i have uh my my company is
01:42:54.000 pretty big pretty spread out if i know we have a job opening in an area where there's members
01:42:58.400 i will put it out to those members hey y'all know anybody that fits this description we're hiring um
01:43:03.440 Um, as far as what we can do to prepare, grow with each other, be, be there for each other.
01:43:18.720 Um, I agree that I don't think it's going to be a massive collapse. I think it's going to be,
01:43:22.680 and I work in, in more or less kind of my field is in an area where we saw a
01:43:29.920 collapse um however that didn't mean the field doesn't mean the field doesn't go away that
01:43:37.100 doesn't mean the people go doesn't go away what we can do to get stronger is honestly continuing
01:43:44.620 to build our network is is being there for each other growing in frith um just
01:43:51.940 honestly reaching out every so often and saying hey man you're all good you know that i like to
01:43:59.140 that to some of the guys on in our area just hey you good so just being there for each other
01:44:08.020 all right um so mike what are your favorite books five favorite books not lore related
01:44:17.940 and favorite food recipes give me five books and five food recipes go all right um i saw the
01:44:25.700 question coming so i quickly jotted down what i could think of i'm not in my office which means
01:44:30.180 i'm not necessary i'm not near my um uh near my bookcase um one of my favorites i cannot remember
01:44:39.620 it because i i actually lent my copy out i know alan calm down it's okay um i lit my copy out to
01:44:47.460 somebody i haven't gotten it back but it's uh how to listen to jazz um it's and remember it was done
01:44:54.180 by a columnist i want to say for a new york publication i don't remember which one um i'm
01:45:02.280 a huge music guy i i i love uh jazz is one of my absolute favorites um i'm learning to play i'm
01:45:08.880 working on the tenor saxophone personally but that book i would i remember going through it
01:45:14.460 and reading it and really enjoying it because i would read it at night and then the next morning
01:45:18.480 i'd go into work and immediately put on the suggested reading list so i'd go in there and
01:45:23.680 create a little rep, you know, we read, you know, or not reading, excuse me, listening list on
01:45:27.460 Amazon music and listen to the songs. Most likely what I would do is just grab whatever album those
01:45:32.760 songs were on and listen to them. Um, that was one of them. Um, I'm not all the way through it,
01:45:39.380 but I'm really enjoying the Mead Hall. I believe that's Pollock. Um, oh, let's see.
01:45:47.060 one that i've uh one of the book there's two books on this list that i will constantly give
01:45:54.340 as gives give as gifts um one of them and i give this one to adults as well it's give a mouse a
01:46:00.820 cookie depending on um what field they work in i think it's a it teaches you a lesson about
01:46:08.740 how much about reserving some of yourself and so it's it's uh i'm probably looking way too deep
01:46:16.960 into that children's book give a mouse a cookie but that's uh one of my books that i uh like to
01:46:22.300 give out and is one of my all-time favorites to recommend oh this is all of course non uh lore
01:46:27.480 based or uh uh necessarily i guess meat hall was kind of faith-based it's more about so meat hall
01:46:33.680 is about feasting um another one that i just finished i own a hard copy but can never get
01:46:39.960 through the hard copy so i did the audible on it was uh dwarves by marcus helts it was a believe
01:46:46.800 it was originally written in french and then uh translated he's got five volumes out i believe
01:46:52.620 on audible i probably will stop at the first one because i think one of the things as a listener
01:47:00.100 and as a consumer of media of any form or fashion with the more especially the conclusion with the
01:47:06.860 idea of stories is and i'm not saying stop in the middle but just because there is a sequel
01:47:15.280 doesn't mean you need to watch it if you enjoy the ending of the first one and you don't i don't
01:47:22.520 want to say not care but you don't want the the the mental narrative to end and that was this was
01:47:29.660 one of those books that i came to that clarity on was it wrapped up the ending in such a nice
01:47:34.540 wonderful package that i honestly while i would have loved more i didn't want it if that makes
01:47:40.240 sense kind of like uh one of my favorite tv shows is firefly uh josh whedon's um that's a
01:47:45.560 phenomenal tv show but they couldn't have made a second season after the you know if they had
01:47:52.340 done it right afterwards great after that they they're you know don't do it again uh dwarves
01:47:58.280 um by marcus helps was one of the ones it just i thoroughly enjoyed it and i unfortunately will
01:48:04.900 not go listen to those sequels because or if it is going to be a while because i like the way the
01:48:09.920 story ended and i want to keep the mental narrative where it's at rather than having a chance for that
01:48:16.300 mental narrative to go away i always liken the idea of we all you know most people can will say
01:48:23.200 that the princess bride movie was an amazing movie and something that every as a universal truth
01:48:28.800 everyone loves it right so uh if you've seen it most people absolutely love that movie well i
01:48:34.440 always ask the question would you read the book so and that's that same idea with that is would
01:48:41.360 you want your narrative your memories of that to be construed anyway i'm going off on a tangent on
01:48:48.060 Sorry, that just kind of, I never get to talk like, I don't know, that's kind of fun stuff to talk about.
01:48:54.220 And last but not least, my absolute favorite book in the world, I've read it through two or three times, listened to it on Audible multiple times.
01:49:02.280 I've given it out.
01:49:04.380 There was a time there where I could never keep a copy on my shelf because I kept buying it and giving it away.
01:49:10.080 It's Starship Troopers by Heinlein.
01:49:12.080 Heinlein is one of my favorite authors of our time.
01:49:15.100 Starship Troopers, phenomenal book.
01:49:18.060 I don't think the movie is anything like the book.
01:49:22.040 They're completely different entities.
01:49:23.320 They share a, I guess, macro theme and general idea, but that's about it.
01:49:31.380 Phenomenal book.
01:49:32.200 I wish it was required reading in schools.
01:49:36.040 Odd note on that one.
01:49:37.200 It was actually entered into a children's, if I remember reading about it,
01:49:43.100 it was entered into a children's science fiction competition.
01:49:46.440 he a hindland entered one in a year and they actually turned it away saying they would not
01:49:50.760 honor that as an entry because it's of the adult themes and his he actually issued a reply saying
01:49:56.760 that children are the only ones that can truly understand the themes in this book which i thought
01:50:01.720 was kind of really interesting when you think about the movie starship troopers and then like
01:50:06.200 wait they wrote a book so you read the book and you're like oh holy cow the book is so good um
01:50:11.480 anyway uh i can i heineland is my favorite author if that makes any difference or tells you where
01:50:16.520 my reading lies when i'm not studying although i haven't had much time to study non-lore stuff in
01:50:24.040 a long time or in a while i'm probably not seeing the end of that for a while so it's okay with that
01:50:28.920 um favorite recipes i uh i i don't particularly like recipes um i've been a chef for many of
01:50:38.040 of years. I was a chef for a very long time, actually ended up getting the title head chef
01:50:44.100 for a little while. I look at recipes as a suggestion, as a ingredients list and a theoretical
01:50:54.180 way to do it. I like to cook more of whoever I'm cooking for. My favorite things to cook,
01:51:01.200 I love cooking Cajun food. I'm originally from Gulfport, Mississippi. My dad is from New Orleans,
01:51:06.940 So a good portion of my family's from New Orleans. Worked in a New Orleans kitchen for a very long time.
01:51:13.200 I love cooking Cajun food. I'm pretty sure Matt has figured that one out coming to Northall twice now.
01:51:19.880 And my other passion lies, oddly enough, in bar food. I think bar food is underappreciated.
01:51:26.420 I think it can be there's so much that can be done. And I believe I love more or less barbecue in with bar food to a degree.
01:51:35.840 um but it heals the soul there's a you can't tell me that for most people
01:51:41.360 there's not that one hamburger or cheeseburger in their life that just hit
01:51:44.540 in the exact right moment to turn your mood around so our chicken wings or
01:51:50.120 something along those lines cheesy fries anyway but that's uh so as far as a top
01:51:55.820 five books there's that recipes I love doing gumbo I love cooking wings I love
01:52:02.840 barbecuing barbecuing is a general term so let me put that down a little bit i love doing pulled
01:52:08.840 pork um don't really have a recipe for any of that just kind of how i do one of my absolute
01:52:13.000 favorite things to make is meatloaf i do lump that in as bar food and my last one would have to be
01:52:23.640 on and i will lump it in as bar food as well as quesadillas i think quesadillas are a little
01:52:29.480 tapped resource here in america here as far as high cuisine bar food and i think it's a lot of fun
01:52:35.640 so there we go all right so gentlemen what is one daily habit that has brought you closer to the
01:52:44.420 gods mike what's the daily habit that's brought you closer to the gods i get up at 4 30 every
01:52:51.440 morning and medit and meditate that's my daily habit of met a study is followed by meditation
01:52:58.700 if i was having to get up at 4 30 in the morning for the gods i don't know if that
01:53:05.500 would bring me closer to them or further away from them um oh something that's daily habit
01:53:13.300 it's a it's an interesting thing to answer at this point in my life because
01:53:21.260 I have been very fortunate that I have structured my life around the AFA. So I'm doing stuff about
01:53:30.580 our faith pretty much from wake up till I go to bed.
01:53:39.560 All of that definitely brings me closer and keeps me close to our gods.
01:53:44.540 Um, but I think as far as a daily habit, a daily, and I'm not going to, I'm not going
01:53:59.540 to be dishonest with you guys and say, I get it every day, but very often habit that I
01:54:05.080 do is I try to check in at my altar and prayer. Yes, but very specifically, um,
01:54:19.720 affirmations or reaffirmations of things, checking in as close as I can, looking our
01:54:26.460 gods in the face and restating my resolve to do right by them, checking in on things that I've
01:54:36.000 promised them on, you know, where those projects are at, what I'm doing to complete them and how
01:54:42.640 I will get there. And just having that frequent conversation before the altar with the gods about,
01:54:51.700 you know where i'm at where i where i will be in regards to working for them and with them for the
01:55:02.140 for the austral folk assembly or for my family or for anything personal in that matter
01:55:07.300 um but that check-in with the gods is really important and i think that's
01:55:13.100 brought me much closer to the gods and helps me you know as of a couple days ago helps me
01:55:20.080 i'm gonna can i'm gonna jump in real quick and ask you do you have a ritual that when you visit
01:55:27.380 a hoth that you do and i don't mean ritual as in say bloat say sambal i mean ritual
01:55:32.540 something that you like to do every time you're at the hoth that almost becomes second nature
01:55:39.320 i
01:55:41.720 yeah i like to go in in front of the mural and
01:55:51.080 greet the god of the place and
01:55:58.640 say my piece or whatever i if i remember um i know where all the stuff is so i light incense
01:56:07.600 at Odin's Hof when I get there.
01:56:10.480 Sometimes I mean to bring incense or something
01:56:13.280 when I go to some of the other Hofs
01:56:14.720 and then I kick myself because I didn't.
01:56:17.220 But doing that kind of, you know, saying hi.
01:56:21.760 And then when I leave for the weekend
01:56:25.140 or for the day, if it's at Odin's Hof or whatever,
01:56:27.840 I like to, you know, go and say goodbye
01:56:31.800 and, I don't know, have a moment with the God
01:56:36.280 there in their, in their temple to say farewell until the next time. And I always do that. I mean,
01:56:42.780 barring, barring unforeseen circumstance, that's something I always do. Absolutely.
01:56:52.320 Allie says, in Living Ousitru, founder McNeillan suggests doing physical activity
01:56:56.960 and starting healthy habits to honor Roud because he is not Roud the sissy.
01:57:01.920 uh mike what would you add to that list
01:57:05.960 we get physical activity absolutely um and i like to put in there making
01:57:17.920 when at all possible because i know a lot of some we have a lot of us that a lot of our faith live
01:57:25.240 in the country but when at all possible put on an empty backpack and walk to the grocery store
01:57:30.500 You know, you got to shop anyway, make it a earn the calories.
01:57:34.800 So I like to say, um, with this, with healthy physical activity in my personal, in my, in
01:57:44.340 my personal belief with, with very few exceptions, that is only one half of the equation for
01:57:49.960 healthiness.
01:57:50.640 Physical activity is only as good as how healthy you eat.
01:57:54.800 You know, you can go and work out and lift weights, in my opinion. This is personally and how I've learned it. If you can lift what you work out for three hours, but if you go afterwards and pound seven beers and eat three cheeseburgers, well, that's not necessarily going to pay off in the long run.
01:58:14.020 So I think healthy eating habits. And with that, I honestly think wholesome eating habits. And what I mean by that is, I like the way Allen says it the best, what Allen says it the best. It is, when you go to the grocery store, you only visit the perimeter.
01:58:31.260 so what that means is you you only you only hit the fresh stuff you never hit the can
01:58:37.980 as much as absolutely possible only hit the fresh foods uh the the dairy the meats you know the
01:58:45.700 cheeses the vegetables rather than going and going through you know the aisles and aisles
01:58:51.960 of little debbies and doritos and canned suits so all right um ali says also says i'll tell you
01:59:07.640 go the founder mcnowlin also connects roud's death by snake to the story of thor and jormungandr
01:59:13.880 can you expand on that a little bit maybe just a tiny bit um i can't claim to know all of steve's
01:59:21.720 thoughts on that but the motif of hero versus serpent is as old as our people um it's seen
01:59:35.320 in so many branches of arian belief and it's very notable in thor's um long enmity with uh
01:59:46.520 with Jormungandr. The idea of the snake slithering in and destroying somebody who's that strong,
01:59:56.920 steadfast hero. Those connections are obvious when you point out the two stories. I don't know
02:00:07.520 if it's anything particularly greater than that. I certainly don't think that was necessarily in
02:00:13.600 mind of of olaf when he devised that particular torture but uh it is interesting and i think it
02:00:20.880 is fitting for someone who's known as the strong uh beings how thor was also known for his might
02:00:28.160 and his strength to be slain by by a serpent in that way um but it's certainly food for thought
02:00:36.640 and it's interesting and i think it's poetic in a way now with that being said it's also to throw
02:00:45.920 in there the the the flip side of it i don't say flip sides not the right not the right word but
02:00:50.800 the other part of the olaf side of the story is that it is believed it is written in the sagas
02:00:57.680 that he was visited by odin so and more or less turned his back on that so the fact that you have
02:01:05.360 this you know a guy that essentially is believed to have opened the first church in norway the
02:01:13.760 first christian church in norway being visited by the gods and then going off to do that it's also
02:01:21.920 just something interesting to point out there as well so yeah in in the story of these men's life
02:01:28.080 there's there's very often
02:01:34.480 metaphysical synchronicities and things that add a lot of layer to it just had a uh
02:01:41.360 five dollar donation in our super chat uh thank you michael we appreciate the five dollars very
02:01:47.200 much hail matt and mike hail the gods hail our volk hail just a small token of my appreciation
02:01:54.800 for the work y'all do well thank you and it's much much appreciated uh
02:02:02.000 katie asks if you do not mind sharing when was one time that you felt connected to the gods mike
02:02:09.440 all right so this one i think this was when the one of the strongest connections and the
02:02:17.120 and the first time i felt the presence of norther was katie and i were actually
02:02:24.240 out kayaking i don't remember what we were we did went out to do something else maybe scuba dive at
02:02:30.480 that point i remember this was a couple years ago um and we'd gone to there's a river near here
02:02:36.720 called the wasissa it's about 22 miles from my house about 20 miles about 20 minutes i think
02:02:41.760 it's 22 miles um anyway it's a spring head and you paddle down one mile and you get to
02:02:50.320 a second spring called Big Blue. I remember we were leaving. I think we were scuba diving or we
02:02:57.020 were something along those lines. I was swimming maybe. But as we were going out, we could kind of
02:03:02.700 see the storm clouds come in. And you get to know when it's going to be a thunderstorm or when it's
02:03:10.420 just rain. Didn't feel thunder and lightning coming, so we went ahead and went out anyway.
02:03:15.680 i remember uh i really think we were scuba diving we came up from just a general
02:03:21.560 fun dive just to have some fun we had extra air in the tanks left we had an extra tank
02:03:26.080 left over each from the weekend diving and we uh i remember very vividly we came it was raining
02:03:33.700 look i remember looking up and seeing the rain from underneath the water and how cool that was
02:03:38.660 i remember we got up to the we got to the surface we did every we did our dives we loaded our gear
02:03:45.460 back on our kayaks and for one of the only times out of the thousands of times i've been on that
02:03:52.000 river i remember exiting the uh big blue inlet and we were alone on that river um
02:03:58.660 i remember both of us were just brought to tears about how beautiful that river was
02:04:04.400 right after that rain like just that one exact moment the sun was just starting to come back out
02:04:12.740 uh the fog was sitting very heavily on certain parts of the river the wind was still
02:04:19.040 and the water was beautiful and i just remember feeling the presence of the gods at that moment
02:04:24.320 of just you know how the utter beauty of the surround of the surround so that was uh
02:04:31.160 that was that's the time that i remember the absolute most vivid
02:04:35.420 all right um so mary asks regarding physical appearance how about nose and lip rings
02:04:46.640 especially on women so mary um and anybody else
02:04:53.260 a lot of people have a lot of different uh different senses of style in the house true
02:05:01.920 folk assembly and i don't think that they're always going to be our favorites
02:05:07.180 um i will i will readily admit i am not a big nose lip ring fan um especially the like nose ring
02:05:18.860 that's in the in the center chunk of the nose that like bull nose ring thing i don't care for that
02:05:25.900 and uh the like lip piercing the upper lip piercing like birthmark piercing thing that women do
02:05:35.100 is particularly not my favorite i think that can make a 10 into a three instantly
02:05:41.020 that said the afa doesn't have any particular particular stance on that or prohibition on that
02:05:52.060 i would urge folks that when they do something to alter their appearance they consider why
02:05:58.760 what are you trying to accomplish what effect are you trying to have on the people that see you and
02:06:11.020 You know, when we affect our appearance in a way like that, it's very easy to pretend it's not for other people to see.
02:06:19.180 But it is. You want a reaction from people, either positive or negative.
02:06:23.300 And there's certain people maybe you're targeting with it or not.
02:06:26.420 What are you hoping to accomplish and are you accomplishing that?
02:06:31.940 But, yeah, just on a personal note, I'm not a huge fan of those fashion accoutrements.
02:06:37.940 uh what what about you mike what do you got to say on the subject i am right on track with you bud um
02:06:45.700 i'm i'll even take it a step further in saying that ear piercings can get overwhelming very
02:06:54.020 quickly um i find it interesting when you you see a lady who has had or male who has had let's say
02:07:01.940 five ten ear piercings and you can still see the holes but find the like ufc fighters with the
02:07:07.780 cauliflower ears to be disgusting it was like i just find that kind of interesting of you know
02:07:13.700 one does it out of work and one does it for fun it's just an odd dichotomy that i i've noticed
02:07:20.420 i personally am not the biggest fan of it um i always we have a friend of ours who wears a
02:07:27.860 i mean it's like right in the crease like right right where the the i guess i don't know nostril
02:07:32.580 flares up and it's this the tiniest little like speckle of diamond glass sergonium whatever it is
02:07:40.100 but i always keep telling her because i forget what it is i always say hey you got a piece of
02:07:44.100 glitter on your nose like without fail every time i see her i think she has glitter on her nose
02:07:50.260 see the little the little piercing in that spot is probably the least the least egregious to me
02:07:57.540 the other thing that i think is is odd is the uh you know when the ears are gauged up and then
02:08:03.460 there's the empty then there's the big empty gauge hole that i don't know i don't know how
02:08:08.340 that doesn't catch on stuff and anyways i'm sure that all of us have have our preferences
02:08:17.220 on those things and uh i there's stuff that's hard rights and wrongs and i think this is a
02:08:24.500 subject that really isn't a hard right or a wrong deal um but yeah it's putting it out there and i
02:08:30.820 think that you know some of those things i guess are generational too uh i i don't like those but
02:08:38.340 kids these days maybe that's maybe that's bodacious or what y'all are doing these days or whatever um
02:08:47.220 Yeah. So, I'll tell you, Goofy Flavell, any plans for the first annual AFA weightlifting competition?
02:08:56.160 Great stream as usual, gentlemen. Thanks. So, okay, real plans, no, but honestly, I'd be lying
02:09:02.920 if I didn't say that I have fantasized about that being a thing at Sigerheim one day.
02:09:08.060 I very much want us to build a gym and dojo there at some point. It's not going to be in the first
02:09:15.340 wave of things that we do there though uh obviously got a lot of more important things
02:09:20.540 take place first i would like to do that and if we did that we may very well have some some
02:09:26.300 competition going on at sigger bloat which is a july bloat that's going to be the annual event
02:09:33.580 at siggerheim or at tiershoff at siggerheim um
02:09:39.340 Um, hello, what is the significance of Galdaring as a group during bloat and other ritual activities?
02:09:50.460 So we Galdar, um, it depends, depends what the purpose is.
02:09:57.300 Fundamentally, Galdaring summons a rune or summons that energy into the place that you are.
02:10:06.240 it manifests that, that mystery, that force into, into something that you are doing.
02:10:16.420 As a group for other mental, you know, for other work, sometimes Galdor, like intentional Galdor
02:10:21.880 work is done where you're hoping to affect something in the modern world with your,
02:10:26.820 you know, Galdoring, often in ritual and in bloat, your Galdoring to summon up that force
02:10:34.740 to get people's mind focused on a certain thing to please a god with a certain energy
02:10:41.540 but your question on group galder in any of those activities and this is you know also expressed as
02:10:48.660 in the idea of a magical chain sometimes people will practice magical activity
02:10:55.940 physically connected to someone like joining interlocking hands or hands on each other's
02:11:01.300 shoulders that connection of will so many people with the same will focused on the same thing
02:11:11.060 at one time becomes worth more than the sum of of its parts it's more than each of those people
02:11:17.620 doing it individually it combines that power and one thing that's very special with galder
02:11:23.060 because of the nature of it being intonation is it harmonizes and when all of those voices
02:11:32.940 literally ebb and flow together in harmony of the same intonation it's not only is it beautiful but
02:11:40.520 it's very magically powerful and I think folks who've been involved in that can feel some of
02:11:45.780 that from time to time but yeah that's the i think that's the the direct answer on that
02:11:53.340 uh from josh mike i miss the south if i come to visit y'all can we make cheese biscuits
02:12:01.340 so first off josh buddy take out that word if and put when when you come to visit us um you need
02:12:11.060 you come down here, bud. Absolutely. If you tell me when you're going to be here, I'll put on a
02:12:17.220 class on how to actually make biscuits. Cheese biscuits are, I mean, they're very easy. There's
02:12:24.620 multiple ways to do cheese biscuits. You know what? Just we'll do a class. That's going to be
02:12:29.120 the easier way to do it. Biscuits are fun. There you go. Biscuit making class at New York's
02:12:36.560 off yes sir all right next question uh how's our baby count this year for all pregnant afa ladies
02:12:47.520 with morning sickness slash digestion issue uh use b1 vitamins food rich with b1 is better
02:12:55.440 it should help you uh speaking from experience so consider that ladies and uh wish i had a good
02:13:03.840 count on the babies this year we're doing really good we got tons of pregnant ladies we're i mean
02:13:08.800 we're rolling on it the person i would ask is my wife we've had three born so far says nick with
02:13:16.080 the like quick draw answers on here which is cool but we've got a bunch that are due so we're doing
02:13:21.760 really good on that my wife would tell me but she is currently bathing our child um so i she cannot
02:13:29.280 be reached for comment right now we've got a baby shower at rostar this weekend there you go um we're
02:13:38.080 just you know it was cool at uh ostar at thorshoff we had tons of little kids playing with it we had
02:13:47.440 a bunch of little kids playing with each other we had two little babies in arms we had one very
02:13:54.400 pregnant lady that's that's due very soon uh so we're doing great in that in that regard uh
02:14:03.600 looks like last question of the night mike what are you drinking
02:14:10.560 it is i'm a huge fan of uh doppels and dunkles i'm a dark beer guy um a dunkle lager um very well i
02:14:23.040 I have yet to meet a donkle I didn't like out of my tavern-style glass.
02:14:31.720 Beeswax coated on the inside to keep from leaking, so old-school style.
02:14:36.280 That's, yeah, it was either going to be this or Pabst Blue Ribbon for some
02:14:40.420 because I absolutely love Pabst Blue Ribbon.
02:14:42.820 I've been drinking Blue Moon because that's what was left here by a gentleman
02:14:46.960 and new member who attended our last moot here.
02:14:51.160 Mike, thank you so much.
02:14:52.500 It's been a pleasure having you on the program.
02:14:56.460 Hopefully everybody's learned a little bit about Rob the Strong and are prepared to celebrate him on the 9th of January next year.
02:15:06.920 Yeah, thank you very much for joining us.
02:15:08.900 It was good to have you.
02:15:10.280 Yes, sir.
02:15:12.220 All right, guys.
02:15:13.440 Well, I will see you all next week.
02:15:16.860 Same time, same place.
02:15:18.340 i will be talking to witness fawn and i believe we'll be talking about forsetti until then
02:15:26.180 hail the gods, hail the folk, hail the AFA. And remember, victory never sleeps.
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