00:05:55.120The last episode with Witten Erickson was awesome, and the questions were great.
00:06:01.120And I was like typing fervently, but I couldn't explain.
00:06:04.820i only had you know only so many words can be put in there so i would love to get some of those
00:06:12.180questions too well absolutely and so anybody please ask your questions excuse me while reading
00:06:20.340the text we will you know definitely include your questions that are relevant to what we're reading
00:06:26.340but also if there's other stuff that comes up that is timely to throw in there and if not
00:06:31.940spawn will get to them after uh after we conclude with the text and i have to leave for the evening
00:06:38.100so do stay tuned for that we appreciate y'all joining us and um
00:06:48.500with that spawn do you think there's anything they need to know for background or do we just
00:06:56.020dive right in oh side thing okay while spawn's doing this uh just so happens this is one of
00:07:02.900two sagas that are on the same website we've been using so the loose bow dot org the same place
00:07:10.340we've been going through the rest of the edda in um it also if you go to the home section and uh
00:07:18.420nick's posting a link but if you go to the home section and go to sagas this will be there um so
00:07:25.220find that or any other translation you would like that might be fun also
00:07:30.180and while you look that up swan will tell you the stuff that you should be aware of before we begin
00:07:38.020so first and foremost this isn't a poem so it's not written in a in poetic uh format
00:07:47.220it is a story and it would be better akin to well at least get it in your mind
00:07:55.780that it is closer to the likes of like the iliad and the odyssey um there is just a vast amount of
00:08:07.060things going on and it it starts um even before volsung but leading up to volsung and his the
00:08:17.380creation of his his tribe his clan his um acclimation to um greatness and then no no no no
00:08:27.860uh i'm just enticing here um his acclamation to greatness and then his line which eventually leads
00:08:38.660to sigurd the dragon slayer and the cursed ring um there's also tons of lore in here everything
00:08:48.420from prayer to interactions with the gods to to werewolves there this this is packed with good
00:08:58.740stuff but the way that it is also kind of written is there's a semi-historical parallel to it in
00:09:07.060which say for instance like atli is most likely attila but if the story was formulated during the
00:09:14.500migration period it added layers almost like clay layers and so you you'll find kings and
00:09:25.380kingdoms that would not be near each other or would not be able to be ruled as if they were like
00:09:33.300right next to each other and that's because this story has morphed and organically so become
00:09:41.780a legend of huge proportions. And so by the time of our ancestors,
00:09:49.400most of the story would probably be told in segments. Most likely, any person
00:09:57.200cut from the Freeman or the Jarls would have only heard bits and pieces or
00:10:05.380um gotten a synopsis and then heard specifics um it was only till by the 13th century when it was
00:10:17.580completely compiled um and so that does add a little bit of confusion but not much it's it's
00:10:26.520pretty straightforward and again it's not poetic it's written in block format so it is think of it
00:10:33.320like uh as if i was going to start reading the odyssey this is in essence very similar this is
00:10:38.320like the nordic um odyssey and it is high adventure um and lots of little nuggets that i think are
00:10:49.360worth knowing but you gotta kind of get ready for the fact that it's just a large corpus of lore
00:10:55.300and um we're gonna cover it uh systematically but it you know if you're trying to keep heads
00:11:02.480and tails of it if you're trying to keep heads and tails over who's volsung's father who's his
00:11:09.680son um and all that you know you you might need to find a synopsis or something online
00:11:17.040to get you a better understanding because there's so much stuff that is very detailed
00:11:22.640and unique and then it shifts suddenly later on down the line but really really worth it
00:11:32.480the additions of the gods um there's interactions with lord ovin i mean this is god at all this is
00:11:44.320this is uh high entertainment while also really giving us a glimpse into um
00:11:52.760the world our ancestors saw the way they saw the gods the way they saw the cosmology
00:12:02.140At the same time, too, there's also that blending into from mythos to reality with actual kings, actual kingdoms.
00:12:14.520And it reads almost as if, you know, the European Nordic ancestry is, you can see how Tolkien pulled much of his inspiration from this story and many of the other Norse stories.
00:12:36.820because it just drips so much with high magic and high adventure lots of fighting um and everyone
00:12:47.940kind of involved love affairs and uh betrayals it's it's good
00:12:53.780all right that said i actually found a summary in english if folks were looking for that as well
00:13:10.980um that is if you look up saga of the volsums summary in english it'll take you to pittsburgh
00:13:22.180education sites and there's a really good um one by um d l ashley ashleyman
00:13:35.140it's a really good summary if people are looking for bullet points to kind of follow along
00:13:40.660all right swan uh whenever you were ready if you would like us to take us into the story
00:13:57.460all right so we start with chapter one this is long before even volsunger um and the
00:14:10.660the progenitor of the volsung line it starts just before him um in ancient days
00:14:18.660and uh starts with chapter one of sigi the son of odin
00:14:27.060now uh before we start it's worth noting to the um our ancestors especially great lines have often
00:14:34.820spoke of their connections to lord odin even the kings of england traced their genealogy
00:14:42.580back to lord odin um and there are names of the sons of odin that don't quite fit with
00:14:53.540lore and they most likely were great tribal chieftains great leaders um and i speak about
00:15:01.060this and if you look up we we talked about the list of the gods and how we kind of um the
00:15:08.100hierarchy and placing organization and and giving our folk a red line to understand the gods there
00:15:16.820are gods that are mentioned well correction they are referred to um but they most likely were
00:15:27.540brought up from the mortal realms as ascendant um perhaps they are born of lord odin um but they were
00:15:38.660probably mortal at one time and perfect example of this would be miley um there is a son of odin
00:15:45.700uh miley uh referred to and he um i believe is of an ascendancy stock um
00:15:54.900Um, but where it begins and where it ends, you know, there's, there's a great wonder in that if, if, um, if Lord Odin was and still is, um, siring, or was this, uh, much like, um, religions elsewhere in the world will try to link themselves to, um, certain family lines or certain prophets or, or what have you.
00:16:24.900We don't quite know, and I've never taken a hard stance on whether it's a no or a yes.
00:16:32.880The possibility and the magic of it, it's exciting.
00:16:38.980I don't think it's anything bad, but I don't quite know because the Lord does not really expound on it that much.
00:25:09.900thus it is well seen that ciggy has slain the thrall and murdered him
00:25:16.960so he is given forth to be a wolf in a in holy places he is to be a varga
00:25:25.400and to be a varger is a varger is a wolf but he's also someone who is uh excommunicated who is who
00:25:36.140is separated from community and that is in some ways a death sentence unto itself
00:25:43.580and the holy place is society is the uh kinfolk the kinship the the multi-generational families
00:25:54.260the the food that is produced nope you don't get any of that you're thrown over the hedgerow
00:26:01.140and you have to live out with the wolves um and anybody like familiar with the with the title
00:26:08.580vark varker is not a good thing it's not a good title it's um
00:26:13.340i mean unless you're an edgy black metal guy it's not meant to be placed upon you with
00:26:22.700you know any sense of of worth in that um so he is given forth to be a wolf in holy places
00:26:31.400and may no more abide in the land with his father therewith ovin bear him fellowship from the land
00:26:41.600so long away that right long it was and made no stay till he brought him to a certain warships
00:26:51.280to certain warships so sigi falls to lying out a a warring with strength that his father gave him
00:27:02.320or ever or ever they parted so now this is an interesting thing
00:27:07.600uh sigi is to be born of lord odin and this is possibly a connection to lord odin's um
00:27:20.160ancient cultic past of the young men getting tossed out of society and
00:27:29.420you know roaming and ravaging the countryside and this is one of those examples that i think
00:27:36.780a lot of people who've wrote have written on that subject have pointed to this um that he is
00:27:43.840cast out for this murder and then uh his his father who is lord othen uh you know sets him
00:27:53.360out to survive and to go warring and to gain strength now that he is unfettered by any odes
00:28:04.000um let's see here so delaying out a warring with strength that his father gave him
00:28:09.520So he gets kicked out and he takes to pillaging and building up a band of brigands.
00:28:35.060And then these band of brigands turn into a warring element, and that warring element wins over, gathers soldiers, starts to gather land, and as he grows older, he becomes more worldly-wise and less driven to simply just raiding and harrying the land.
00:28:56.980And that's kind of how he builds his kingdom.
00:29:02.220And when we see the sagas in the old Norse times, the chances of him doing this are actually really, really low.
00:29:12.140that's why i'm of the mind that these are are kind of times uh during the migration periods
00:29:19.640because there was so many kingdoms set in nordic times that it was very hard for
00:29:27.780one to simply be cast out and uh make yourself anew again um
00:29:41.900he laid out a warring uh ever and he was happy with the warring and ever prevailed till he
00:29:52.120brought it about that he by his wars land and lordship at last and thereupon he too
00:29:58.780To him, a noble wife, and became a great and mighty king, and ruled over the land of the Huns.
00:30:07.280Another big key indicator that this is migration era is because of the influx of the Huns.
00:30:16.580We know that the Gutens, who most people know as the Goths, the Gutens were flanked, speared right into, like almost T-boned by their lands, by the Huns.
00:30:32.380and the um they try to resist but devastating um and that is because eastern europe was just
00:30:41.600starting to transition in a forest so the huns still had a great amount of power with their
00:30:47.920horses so this time is hugely pivotal in a germanic people as the germanic people were
00:30:58.040living from poland all the way down to the sea of azov um and the gutens helped found uh
00:31:07.560along with other tribes like the heralds and the rugi and the skiri and these folk were then
00:31:16.840fully settled when the huns hit and almost split them um so if anybody ever talks about you know
00:31:25.480the misconception about the slavs is uh is that you know they the hunnic invasion perhaps is laid
00:31:33.080upon them as being some sort of indicator that you know they're they're uh not folk but i mean
00:31:40.680that's the same as the phoenicians with the greeks or the phoenicians would be with the italians and
00:31:47.080the Huns invade and split them into twain and a lot of this pushes them southward towards the
00:31:58.460Roman Empire um and that's kind of what this time is even though it's in essence written and or
00:32:06.260presented to a Nordic audience as have happening you know not so far back but these and it harkens
00:32:15.080back to a you know an old folk memory of again you're not you can't just wikipedia these things
00:32:22.200to learn about it but by the time the tales get to you there are these crazy horsemen that come
00:32:28.340out of the east that shake up the world and displace all of these you know famous tribes
00:32:36.540that you've heard about famous people that you've heard about and so when you think about a border
00:32:41.520area of your known world at the time of when this is talked about Hunland is you know that
00:32:49.720strange and mysterious land past the furthest east that we know about and I think in a lot
00:32:57.080of ways that harkens back to you know Thor's journeys in Jotunheim going off in the east
00:33:04.700to this mysterious eastern land beyond you know the furthest travels of your ancestors where
00:33:12.220crazy stuff happens um that's also something that it's not necessarily related but came to mind
00:33:21.720when uh alexander the great was leading armies in well into asia he gets to you know he starts
00:33:28.000encountering things that hearken to tales in you know greek lore's mysterious lands that hercules
00:33:36.160was in and like you know when you go that far east you're in the land of the unknown to where
00:33:42.640you're in you know these strange legendary mythical lands and i think that's part of the setting of
00:33:50.080this yeah and that the the mechanism of of mythic storytelling and mythic writings um
00:34:00.960yeah are built on that paralleling um historical events that
00:34:05.920are almost completely forgotten and then building them up with godly events and and other things
00:34:13.680um i would also say too at this point sigi who is a varger there is a motif that comes into the story
00:34:27.840not necessarily of a curse but more of a a turning you'll see later on that the fact that
00:34:38.000sigi is a varker gives proclivity to his descendants being literal werewolves so that's
00:34:49.680that's cool but so he takes over the land of the hunts so this would most likely obviously put
00:34:57.440themselves after the death of attila but you'll see that there is a character in the story named
00:35:04.400athlete who is most likely attila so the timeline of these are not uh you know logical and and
00:35:13.760point a to point b um and like also they said it's it's the the mythos memory the great memory
00:35:21.200kind of all packed together to create you know a great story um and when we read these we do
00:35:31.600have to understand that our ancestors were not simply just sitting around to receive lore they
00:35:38.960were sitting there to be entertained they were sitting there to get drawn in that's why the death
00:35:45.520of a slave right out the gate is perfect to just start these key events so he gets cut out and then
00:35:54.400he takes over the land of the huns which could be anywhere from poland to the u to ukraine and um
00:36:01.920he is a mighty king and he has a son by his wife and they translate the name to refit but
00:36:12.160i see here on the on the north side it's it's ray um i'm gonna i i don't have the
00:36:20.560definition for that right now i just noticed how distinctly different those uh two names were um
00:36:30.000so i'm going to try to refer to him as railier um instead of refit or refit um and he grew up
00:36:39.200in his father's house and soon became great of growth and shapely so he became large in height
00:36:49.600and bulky and i i also found it interesting they say he grew up in his father's house
00:36:55.360i think that there was occasions at this time especially during the migration period
00:37:00.720where um children would be fostered off so they wouldn't grow up in their father's house
00:37:07.920or that they would be fostered off even to the the mother's uncle um in order to be brought up
00:37:15.280or to make allegiances through families you you give the son over to the mother's side
00:37:23.760like a hostage program if you will and it it allows a leveling and we see this paralleled
00:37:30.560in the stories of our holy gods when we uh last week someone had brought up the line of the
00:37:36.800isir descends from jotuns and that's true um lord odin's uncle is a jotun and his name is mimir so
00:37:48.480the uncle on the mother's side has significance culturally but it says here in this case
00:37:55.920no he grew up big and strong and he grew up in his father's home
00:37:59.440chapter two of the birth of volsung the song of rarir who was the son of sigi so that's just a
00:38:12.360brief synopsis of what is to come who we're talking about now and obviously sigi was who
00:38:18.940we were talking about before now sigi grows old and had many to envy him so that at last those
00:38:28.180turned against him whom he trusted most i even the brothers of his wife for these fell on him
00:38:38.580at his unwariest when there was few with him to withstand and brought so many against him that
00:38:46.900they prevailed against him and there fell ciggy and all his folk with him so you know i know that
00:38:57.300the the writing of it is odd and i also think too there are some misspellings going on here they
00:39:03.860they change refit to rarier but in this case siggy and this is another thing that is being
00:39:14.580laid out to the audience the audience doesn't want siggy to just perhaps die in battle now
00:39:22.820the story also lays in the fear of you know being overtaken by kin and being betrayed and on the
00:39:32.180same same sense is that you know it's it's an ambush and there's so many people that you know
00:39:39.700if they probably had one less person you know Siggy would have come out on the other end
00:39:46.420victorious so these are again story points that would entice and um you know excite and entertain
00:39:58.020the audiences of our ancestors during the norse period so it says all of his folk with him but
00:40:07.620his son was not in this trouble and he brought together so mighty a strength of his friends and
00:40:15.220and the great men of the land, that he got to himself both the lands and the kingdoms of Siggy, his father.
00:40:21.340And so now, when he deems that the feet under him stand firm in his rule,
00:40:27.840then he calls to mind that which he had against his mother's brothers, who had slain his father.
00:40:35.860So the king gathers together a mighty army, and therewith falls on his kinsmen,
00:40:41.820Deeming that if he made their kinship of small account
00:40:45.960Yet nonetheless they had first wrought evil against him
00:41:02.200Though dreadful the deed seemed every wise
00:41:06.080So now he gets land, lordship, and fee
00:41:09.680And is, and is become, so again, these misspellings here, and has become a mightier man than his father before him.
00:41:21.320So, one thing is, kinslaying is still seen, and I think developed by the Nordic period, and kind of became far more finite.
00:41:36.220but during the time of the migration period the tribal influx and the violent tendencies back and
00:41:46.520forth um were so chaotic and in this case and even by the nordic period if there was a kinsman by law
00:41:57.400who slain one of your blood kin you going and getting revenge was not seen as you also being
00:42:06.400a kinslayer that that moment had already been done the kin slaying the the needling the uh the
00:42:15.600sin if you will of killing one of your own kin has already been done so people going in and giving
00:42:25.300retribution to that were absolved from being a needling because they were correcting the great
00:42:32.820imbalance that was created so when he goes after his uncles he is not a kinslayer they are the
00:42:39.940kinslayers he is correcting everything and when he does he gains their land or he gains uh tax
00:42:48.340from them and he gets his father's land and doubles you know or they don't say doubles but
00:42:56.180you know greatly increases his might past his father's so to get to a question while we're
00:43:02.980well a couple of things gw farnsworth a pillar of generosity and consistency
00:43:11.060donated 30 to us thank you so much um it means a lot it means a lot every time and it certainly
00:43:16.820means a lot collectively thank you very much for your generosity we also have a question um
00:43:24.180from angela asking if the term varger is where we get the concept of the lone wolf
00:43:31.620and i can't say it for sure is because i think everyone
00:43:36.820peoples who know wolves and are familiar with wolf behavior recognize this yes i think the concept is
00:43:48.820absolutely the same except for in this silly age that we live in where people are so very
00:43:55.220removed from nature there's this idea of some kind of rugged individualism of the lone wolf
00:44:01.860no the lone wolf means they're cut off from their support system they're outside of the kin fits
00:44:09.300real completely biologically they're outside of the support of the pack of their pack and
00:44:19.220usually they are that way because they are a liability um oftentimes the image of the varger
00:44:27.060is a wolf that's diseased that's that's you know ugly that's got something wrong with it that's
00:44:33.940mangy that's no you cut that off because it is a detriment to the pack and you see that with facts
00:44:42.340um it's a very very similar concept but i think anyone that is from a society that's closely
00:44:50.980familiar with wolves probably make similar connections so i think to trace it exactly
00:44:58.100might be a little bit overreaching um but no carry on okay yeah um
00:45:08.500so much wealth won in war gat or got i mean again i think that the way it's written is
00:45:17.860some of it's misspelled and then others is it's that it's usage of older words um like begat
00:45:24.260uh much wealth won in war got uh rarier to himself and wedded a wife with all
00:45:33.460such as he deemed meet for him and long they lived together
00:45:39.140but had no child to take the heritage after them and ill ill content they both were with that
00:45:50.180so here clearly again it's stating they've been living long together but have no children and that
00:45:59.100that doesn't make them happy and they want to pass on their line and keep the kingdom going
00:46:07.520under their blood. And so they prayed to the gods with heart and with soul that they might
00:46:16.700get them a child. And so it is said that Ovin hears their prayer and Freya no less hearkens
00:46:25.740wherewith they prayed unto her. So she never lacking for all good counsel calls to her
00:46:33.900casket-bearing May, the daughter of Hrymnir, the giant, and sets an apple in her hand and bids
00:46:45.940her to bring it to the king. She took the apple and did on her the gear of a crow. So she donned
00:46:56.800the skin of a crow and went flying till she came whereas the king sat on a mound and there she let
00:47:04.940the apple fall into the lap of the king but he took the apple and deemed he knew where to it would
00:47:12.780avail so he goes home from the mound to his own folk and came to the queen and some deal of that
00:47:20.920apple she ate so a lot going on right there they pray to lord odin they pray to the holy freya
00:47:31.880and so they don't flag on the play if you read the text and i went on to it they actually play
00:47:39.640prayed to uh to frig and the translator just decided to go completely rogue they even note
00:47:46.040at the bottom like he really really took a lot of liberties with that sentence for seemingly
00:47:52.280no reason and that's that that part there after where it it says that um never lacking in good
00:47:59.240counsel calls to her casket bearing may which that's that's the the austin your fulla who is
00:48:09.400the casket bearer of uh holy frigga so that was clearly just a like uh adding to the confusion
00:48:19.320of holy frigga and holy freya and how they get it uh often interchangeably used and that's um
00:48:28.840that's what i was kind of leading to is that you know they prayed to freya or did they
00:48:35.160because of this and and we see in mind that's a fault of romantic era early 1800s like 1800s early
00:48:45.1601900s people not having a very incomplete understanding of things and just rediscovering
00:48:53.960this sometimes for the first time i'd say so okay if you allow me on it i'll add a
00:49:02.200extra too that's just kind of a layer of of interesting it's funny when you look back
00:49:10.920even in the modern alsatru period to stuff with um with our founder and his generation of people
00:49:19.920in the 70s and the 80s they also did not have access to lots of stuff the amazing tools that
00:49:29.180we have being able to just google stuff and look at wikipedia on stuff and at a moment's notice
00:49:39.900have access to a great great deal of the entire collected knowledge of humanity at our fingertips
00:49:47.740on our phone it seems indispensable and like it's been here forever but it hasn't and so
00:49:55.740So people are trying to figure this stuff out. A lot of the time, the early translators, they're relying on, you know, Romantic era or Victorian era stuff that's well-intentioned, but that we've got a more complete picture of today to kind of piece some things together.
00:50:13.440So keep that in mind and grant them a little bit of grace when you notice errors. They didn't have the same materials to work with as we do today.
00:50:21.760And this is a very interesting, convexing point in which things, there is the possibility that they used the daughter of Haimir, or excuse me, Hremnir, for alliteration.
00:50:44.500But the Jotun who is given the apple by Frigg, and it takes play later on in the story, why a Jotun?
00:51:03.200But it's never really explained in great detail why a Jotun is, you know, amongst the gods or amongst the Asenir or amongst the maidens of Fensal.
00:51:17.940Um, but in, in assuming that, uh, the holy powers of heaven intermix with the, they interact, excuse me, and intermix with certain powers that come into their dominion or, you know, give them heed.
00:51:36.680And that's what led to the titling of Ausvenir. Now, I'm not stating that she is, but certainly for the story, they're utilizing that the gods give a gift to a Jotun, and she is anointed as a wish maiden.
00:51:54.240and she goes and takes the shape of of a crow or a raven and this shows again our ancestors did not
00:52:06.000think of yachtins as like always just big giant beings um or you know mountainous or or literally
00:52:14.080giants but that the yachtins were ancient beings that rivaled the gods in purpose most of the time
00:52:24.240but that some of them could join over help or be deemed and i try to i think the best way
00:52:32.080it was ever described to me was like the difference between yachtins and um
00:52:39.520uh the icier it's like the difference between um the british and the french
00:52:47.840and if you think about that in a deeper sense of where gall was and how much influence britain had
00:52:54.880with with gall it it gets very very kind of poignant but they are greatly different but yet
00:53:03.360still very similar so so just to throw in in case we have new folks that listen keep in mind there
00:53:11.440are different types of yotnar when you read things there are there is kind of a neutral
00:53:18.480yotnar that are these beings that are old and primordial and you know of a divergent tribe
00:53:27.040from the icier at some point but there's also the metastasized forces of chaos yotnar
00:53:36.400and so those two coexist there are certain terms that kind of apply to a category of things
00:53:43.400all of these things regardless of their alignment are yotnar the yotnar with a capital j are forces
00:53:53.600of chaos the little case yotnar are a variety of elder beings that do share a distant kinship a
00:54:01.820cousinship, if you will, with the Iser and interact with them and at times intermarry with them.
00:54:07.840The distinction, the more you read becomes self-evident, but when you just start out can be
00:54:12.820can be rather confusing. Really confusing. Yeah. And knowing that the gods source themselves from
00:54:21.980the primordial jotens, there are the Muspel, the children of Muspel, the sons of Muspel,
00:54:31.820and of the fire and then there are the hrim thurser or the hrim jotnar of nivelheim and then
00:54:39.260there is emir separate so right there we have and and this three worlds three different levels or
00:54:48.780expansions of ancient primordial beings and when emir is producing all of these um the race of
00:54:57.100yachtins are coming out of him they come out of his upper body they come out of his lower body
00:55:02.380but it is when the the the tripartite within the tripartite the most dynamic lord he who is the
00:55:10.380winds of heaven coming down olden villain they slay emir and the torrent of blood takes them out
00:55:18.940except for one jotin and his wife and the wife is not mentioned in the in the poem but bergelmer
00:55:25.900mentioned and then it is said that after the deluge they are pushed to the east and from him
00:55:33.420come the race of the of the jotuns of the middle of the middle world and some of them remember
00:55:39.980the slaying of their progenitor and hold on to that that anger and and malice towards the gods
00:55:47.340and others do not but simply place their their power in the middle world and sometimes they come
00:55:55.020under dominion of the gods or they make pacts with the gods or the gods seek them out to make
00:56:01.860sure that they don't go over um and before we get back in just because somebody's asking and it's a
00:56:09.120frivolous little question we can ask uh answer quick rage of red what's everyone drinking tonight
00:56:14.180you just double-fisted what do you got you got two things with you oh i just realized i had a
00:56:20.160little bit um which two vessels are you quaffing spawn i'm i'm drinking some liquid death what
00:56:26.900flavor is that uh severed lime if we can use the term flavor for such a thing i know it's like tv
00:56:34.800static but um this man is drinking a california traditional red blend um 12 by volume it is
00:56:48.840delicious and fruity. I believe it is quite young. That's why I'm getting the fruity flavors coming
00:56:54.620through, but I'm pleased. Coopton on wine like Lord Owen. So back to the action. All right. So let's
00:57:07.600see um yes so rymnir's daughter and rymnir means covered in frost or ice um sets an apple in her
00:57:22.440hand and bids her to go to the king she takes the apple it takes the shape of a crow or a raven
00:57:27.960and flies over and she drops it on the king who is sitting on a mound also really important note
00:57:36.820there he's sitting on a mound whether he was this is utsetti uh sitting out whether he was praying
00:57:46.420on the mound or not is not necessarily specified but he is on that mound when he receives the apple
00:57:53.060and mounds barrel mounds burial mounds were always seen as auspicious places so he's sitting
00:58:00.900on this burial mound when this raven drops an apple and he goes and takes it to his wife to
00:58:07.220which she eats so as the tale tells the queen soon knew that she big with child but a long time war
00:58:18.020or ever she might give birth to the child so it befell that the king must needs to go to wars
00:58:24.980go to the wars after the custom of kings that he may keep his own land in peace
00:58:33.240and in this journey it came to pass that rarir fell sick and got his death
00:58:39.980being minded to go home to odin a thing much desired of many folks of that day so
00:58:50.000she's full with child but holding it and it's you know late and he has to go to a war
00:59:00.560and as he's traveling he falls sick um
00:59:04.360and he desires to go to lord ovin that's another thing is the the strictures of being uh perhaps
00:59:16.180pierced by a weapon uh we see that in the engling saga um when lord odin who is not
00:59:24.820a a mortal you hemorrhized man but more likely either a king who followed lord odin or
00:59:31.380the cult of odin in sweden at the time but he says you know i want to be speared and taken you know
00:59:38.820so i can see my god a lot of people get confused by that but the purpose of that is again you
00:59:45.860hemorization but here is kind of that that influence again and i think it might be noted
00:59:51.140too because the nordic period was filled with um an influx of migration period folk who brought
01:00:01.140lord odin and i believe too lord tier with them um in their prayer it was it was a high focus
01:00:10.580but when they come to the nordic lands there's a heavy focus on um holy fray holy freya and
01:00:18.420uh and and the the vanir in general almost like a a renaissance of vanic worship that by the time
01:00:28.820the migration era tribes start having to return um to scandinavia or as procopius called it
01:00:36.980altima thule um as they were returning there um they brought with them their cults of lord
01:00:43.940odin and tear um and kind of they collided so that's why i want to acknowledge
01:00:58.180that i realized we were covering very little amounts of material with a lot of asides
01:01:03.700but it's kind of the point of the show and what we're doing we don't really have a finite time
01:01:10.900you know depending upon the decree of the nornir uh we don't really have a finite time on this
01:01:17.780and we'll do as many we'll do as many episodes we need to to cover it a big part of it for anybody
01:01:24.100who's just kind of getting the feel of what the show is about though is to find the threads in
01:01:29.220this that illuminate also true in its practice and to share those with you so that's why we go
01:01:35.300off on some of these things uh what i wanted to note to do while we're on here too is also talk
01:01:40.500about a little as a side note what spawn just mentioned is really interesting and the guested
01:01:48.820then or not the guest of the norm the uh anyways don't know it in gothic the uh deeds of the goths
01:01:54.980by uh jordan's he writes about how scandinavia is like sweden in specifically is the cradle of
01:02:05.300nations and how the goths come down out of scandinavia go through and populate you know
01:02:13.460the visigoths into spain um the ostrogoths all throughout the balkans and into greece
01:02:22.740uh down into italy all over the place and then there's this coming back again that spawns talking
01:02:28.820about this kind of surge and then retraction a little bit and it makes for a really interesting
01:02:34.820time and the question that we got asked in the side and i think this is a thing well we got asked
01:02:40.820a question but i don't know where it went because i haven't seen it pop up yet was this apple one
01:02:44.980of uh iduna's apples and um there's no way of knowing that um i don't know if she's got an
01:02:54.660assortment of apples that do the womb of nations there we go well done um i don't know
01:03:05.220again there's no telling but what is telling is this healing motif of using apples as a
01:03:14.980as a healing or as a medical boon, as something that's going to, you know, aid fertility or as
01:03:24.700something that's going to keep one young and refreshed and revitalized. And it was really
01:03:32.560neat. And I think, you know, I wanted to share an experience that I had that isn't really related
01:03:38.080at all necessarily but i think is special nonetheless and important um i was very allergic
01:03:46.160to apples for a long time and a variety of other things um that are kind of genetically related to
01:03:54.000apples but it bothered me because a lot of my very favorite fruits and i was really allergic to them
01:03:58.720so apples would mess with me make my throat start closing up and get real itchy and it was it was
01:04:04.320really problematic so i had to stop with apples and they were a problem and i went on an afa trip
01:06:36.760One thing I wanted to say, too, about the question. So the the importance of the golden apples of holy even, I have always taken that in a theological sense to represent truly divine light or the divine source and the youth of the eternity of the universe.
01:07:02.500um she is divine light and i've always taken lord brai or bragi to be divine sound formulated sound
01:07:13.860formulated light two of the most purest um forms of energy but that's if we're talking about the
01:07:20.180gods in like a cosmic way um but to my knowledge i do not believe there's any reference of
01:07:29.940the icier giving out of the golden apple to mortals which i you know and again this is just
01:07:40.180to my knowledge um and it's i don't have infinite knowledge so i may be wrong but i'm almost positive
01:07:46.580there's no example of it because i remember finding it um interesting in the starkness to
01:07:54.500you know uh divine food uh being given to mortals or um uh heroes gaining ambrosia or soma um but
01:08:08.980it's also worth noting the germanic soul takes to the apple so virulently that they change the bible
01:08:20.020the bible does not mention an apple the bible mentions a fruit and the fruit since the story
01:08:26.740comes from the epic of gilgamesh um and that reference there lends more towards pomegranate
01:08:34.100as the actual fruit but it became the apple when it entered europe christianity a lot of things
01:08:42.900changed about christianity when it entered europe through its various stages and various people from
01:08:48.260the greeks to the romans and then to the germanics um they and side note the gauls through the british
01:08:56.500isles there was a lot of stuff that changed and one of them that stuck just like with austera
01:09:01.460austera the eggs and rabbits another one is that the apple the apple in the garden of eden it was
01:09:09.380never an apple and it became an apple because that's what the germanic folk would understand
01:09:18.260um all right so she drops it off she eats the apple and um
01:09:30.900she becomes full of child and then she is very late in pregnancy and her husband
01:09:45.920cannot wait he has to go and fight this battle he gets sick and he um
01:09:55.280wishes to go to lord odin or he uh being minded to go to lord odin uh in essence
01:10:03.360just the the referencing of it is that he is going to return to lord odin and this again
01:10:10.960throws a lot of the um death by battle um kind of trope where you know you have to die in battle
01:10:20.640it doesn't matter how you die but you die in battle and um you get your ticket in as opposed
01:10:28.080to lord odin choosing you and since he is of the line is what they're saying he's his father is the
01:10:35.280son of lord lord odin so he is going to return to his grandfather um because lord would naturally
01:10:44.880choose his the you know the the kin of his hero or his uh his sires if you will and so
01:10:55.520we always talk about in death going to your ancestors right
01:10:59.600Right. But it does also, it's one of those key points that I think a lot of people think,
01:11:09.580I have to die in battle. I could be sitting in a foxhole and catch a stray round from one of my
01:11:19.560fellow soldiers. It doesn't matter. I'm going to Val Hall. And they forget that Val doesn't just
01:11:28.460means slain it means chosen or choosing the valkyria are carriers of the chosen lord odin
01:11:37.260his hall his the essence of his being his internal place in which he brings the souls
01:11:45.580to him and within him is the hall of the chosen so so before you go on uh jared in virginia
01:11:56.140donated sixty dollars thank you jared we appreciate that he donated that specifically to
01:12:03.020bus payoff in york's off so much appreciated and yeah making really good progress on that by the
01:12:09.100way come down to uh north carolina for austra and then definitely reach out to me and let's
01:12:17.980get some stuff we need to do some stuff in virginia svawn is is your fellow old dominion
01:12:24.380you should go and absolutely this weekend um jared seriously think about it if you can
01:12:32.700spawn's about to make the drive if you can be there all weekend great if you just get there
01:12:37.100for saturday it's still going to be an amazing thing uh oh apparently he's got a ticket already
01:12:42.540well i look forward to seeing you then on uh see you this weekend yeah and let's let's plan for
01:12:48.220some stuff in virginia there's lots of folks up here um some of them are going to make it down
01:12:53.580some of them can't so we're trying to figure out the best way to make sure that
01:12:58.700you know community is is there as well in virginia
01:21:01.160She of whom the tale told that she brought the apple to Rerir.
01:21:06.600So now it's stated that the Jotin Leov was the one that became the wish maiden for the holy goddess of our holy gods.
01:21:19.960And now she is a generation, or later, she is coming to that which is born fruit of that apple.
01:21:29.000um so uh yes uh that she of whom the tale told brought the apple to raria who is volsung's
01:21:41.600father so volsung weds her with all and long they abode together with good hap and great love
01:21:53.100And I think it's also really important to point out, as you guys can see, there's people trying to state that the gods are intermarrying with a different race.
01:22:09.060Again, that word race used by certain translators has caused a lot of grievances and much to the delight of, you know, more universal globalist people who are trying to use Ausatru for their political ends.
01:29:03.040And that's where Volsung and his children, his ten children, and his wife.
01:29:08.880And for those of you that might know the Volsunga Saga, or at least a key part of it, that oak tree is kind of probably pinging off some alarms for folks.
01:29:24.000But if you don't know it, hang in there. We will get there.
01:29:48.380Of the sword that Sigmund, Volsung's son, drew from Barnstock.
01:29:58.420There was a king called Sigir who ruled over Gothland.
01:30:03.860And this kind of checks out again because the Gutens and the Huns lived very close to each other in Eastern Europe and had many wars.
01:30:21.320Some of them were subjugated by the Huns. Others, you know, kept resistance against them until eventually they fell and had to recede back into the Asiatic steppes.
01:30:35.540But, again, another reference that this is far older than the Nordic period.
01:30:42.080So Sigir, who ruled over Gothland, a mighty king of many folk, he went to meet Volsor, the king, and he prayed him for Signy, his daughter, the first daughter, and twin of Sigmund.
01:30:59.820And the king took his talk well, and his sons withal, but she was loathe thereto.
01:31:09.660Yet she bade her father rule in this, as in all other things.
01:31:18.100Generally, the father will determine whether he likes or dislikes the suitor.
01:31:25.040And you'll also hear the opinion of the daughter.
01:31:30.700it always kind of follows in especially in the icelandic sagas it's it's generally you know she
01:31:37.020is happy with this arrangement or she finds him fit and um but in this case she doesn't but she
01:31:45.260says i will let you rule on this and that also kind of lends to the idea there might be political
01:31:53.340implications with this situation so she doesn't really want to do it there certainly are them
01:32:00.060both being kings right right and she doesn't state that it's for some reason that he's ugly or weak
01:32:07.820or or what have you but perhaps that she just didn't want to be married at that time so
01:32:15.260So I kind of get the feeling that there's like a more of a time basis on this.
01:32:25.260So that's the other thing to point out here that I think is an important takeaway.
01:32:31.600um to our ancestors there was a a bigger loyalty and it's interesting because we're talking here
01:32:48.640about a two kings and a and a princess or a yeah for lack of yeah well okay we're talking about I
01:32:57.460guess yeah two kings and a princess so the loyalty to nation is inherent in their position
01:33:08.420but the loyalty to family into nation you see in this to where it's not just about what makes you
01:33:14.900happy it's not about running off with some dude because he's dreamy or whatever it's about making
01:33:22.500a marriage alliance that will be beneficial to the glory of your family and looking out for the
01:33:31.540well-being of your brothers of your father of your line of people that was something that people took
01:33:39.300really seriously to where they would make very important life decisions based on what's going to
01:33:43.700be good for their family overall not just what's going to make them happy and that's a very different
01:33:51.860thing than we're faced with today but i think that you know we live in a different time in a
01:33:57.380different place with different things but the concept of being willing to sacrifice of yourself
01:34:04.260and consider the good of those you are blood kin to and also those you are allied with those who
01:34:11.620are part of your your tribe your nation your clan your church taking the idea of looking out for
01:34:21.060the good of the community that you're a part of be it large or small and factoring that into
01:34:27.700personal decisions the fact that she you know allowed him to make this decision for her
01:34:35.940says that there was the option of like her being heavily resistant and her refusing and there to be
01:34:42.740a thing if it was just a foregone conclusion that she was chattel and she's just going to do what
01:34:47.940But the king says, regardless, you know, her thoughts on the matter are useless.
01:34:53.300They're included here because she is choosing to submit to the king's judgment on this, her father's judgment on this.
01:35:02.060And it's important for us to to keep in mind, it's not always about you or about what you like the most.
01:35:11.460Sometimes decisions in your life ought to take into account what's good for your family, what's good for your folk, what's good for, you know, in groups that you are an essential part of, and what's good for the relationship between your family and another family.
01:35:32.940So it's just an extra dimension of thinking that I don't, that doesn't often come to mind in today's world.
01:35:41.460we got to at least get done with chapter three before i have to bounce out all right so um
01:35:52.420and this is the best one of the best parts here um
01:35:58.020let me see so in all things are concerned her so the king took such a a read r-e-d-e which is
01:36:09.580very similar to a reader or council or proclamation um he took to such read that he gave her to him
01:36:18.740in hand in marriage and she was betrothed to king sigir and for the fulfilling of the feast and the
01:36:26.720wedding was king sigir to come to the house of king volson the king got ready the feast according
01:36:35.740to his best might. And when all things were ready, came to the king's guests and King Sigur with all
01:36:43.420at the day appointed. And many a man of great account had Sigur with him. So he gets the feast
01:36:51.980ready. And then he officially, you know, brings in Sigur with all of his great men. Now the tale
01:37:02.060tells that great fires were made and long the hall and the great tree aforementioned stood
01:37:11.180mid most thereof like a great mast in the center of the the hall with all the folk say that
01:37:20.180when as men sat by the fire in the evening a certain man came into the hall unknown of aspect
01:37:30.160to any of the men and such like a ray he had that over him was a spotted cloak
01:37:37.900he had bare feet and linen breeches knit tight even unto the bone and he had a sword in his hand
01:37:49.920as he went up to Branstock, and a slouched hat upon his head.
01:37:58.480It was huge and seeming ancient, and he was one-eyed.
01:38:04.860So he drew the sword and smote it into the tree trunk
01:38:10.360so that it sank down to the hilt and all held back from greeting the man.
01:58:08.040but he says in you know three months time let's you you know come with us and uh i will make up
01:58:20.880for any shortcomings that were done during the feast and, uh, bring your son and bring as many
01:58:28.800of your men as you want. And we will reconcile this, which is clearly something's going on.
01:58:37.460All right, guys. So, so I appreciate that's fine. You knocked that out in seven minutes,
01:58:45.060which is awesome. You got to be done before the eight o'clock hour. I appreciate you.
01:58:49.800Richard Stoddard, who asked the question about the gods having concern about the affairs of men or not, says over in the chat, you know, sorry, you guess you have a lot to learn and maybe some stuff to unlearn.
01:59:01.620Same for every single one of us, myself included.
02:07:50.600What are traits that are more bold and heroic?
02:07:54.560So when you see people talk about boldness and heroism and masculinity, you will find that people will try to perhaps confuse or link our way of thinking with some of these Internet personalities.
02:08:15.100I think that whenever I hear anyone outside of the inner guard speaking about perhaps the plights of modern society, they speak about the plights of modern day, you know, feminism eroding a lot of traditionalist ideas.
02:08:39.780That is interesting. And I like to hear their opinions on things. However, certain emulations about them, certain things that they're interested in or doing, I can't, you know, get into them.
02:09:00.620there's always that kind of caveat moment and i wonder too if they're enemies people that they
02:09:06.220have enemies on the internet and they want to show people so they show them like one strange time one
02:09:12.940strange thing and it it immediately you know turns people off from them um the one that comes to mind
02:09:21.100right now that i could think of is like gavin mcginnis um however i try to even look past that
02:09:28.940for a while just to make sure you know because you never know where the claims are or how
02:09:37.340you know official they are with the internet but i've always taken them so lightly
02:09:45.980i'm interested in certain subjects i'm interested in certain ideas but then when i see other things
02:09:52.380it's it you know it's disgusting but some of the disgust for me doesn't stop me from continuing to
02:10:00.860look for the wisdom in certain things um you know when it comes to uh you know uh that the attendance
02:10:12.940towards money flying around so on and so forth i'm just like uh why or you know or what have you
02:10:21.980but then other times i see you know like when uh andrew tate went i believe it was to poland
02:10:28.460and he was you know speaking with like i think a loud speaker saying to the polish sir or to
02:10:35.180someone i can't quite remember maybe it was the germans or romanians he was saying you know you
02:10:40.380as you know christian men should be standing up for your nation i mean i don't think he's wrong
02:10:47.820so i have a tendency to be very neutral when it comes to these personalities and i certainly don't
02:10:54.780have or give off any um fandom for anyone in particular but i also don't give off like
02:11:03.340a virulent amount of hatred i know we've spoken about even like vark on the internet and again
02:11:12.140And I can glean wisdom here and there, but, you know, sometimes you have to cut through a lot of the garbage.
02:11:24.180And if you can't do that, yeah, it just immediately turns it away.
02:11:31.140or some folks only see the wisdom and don't see any of the problems and and you know deviant or
02:11:41.380miscreant behavior so i don't know i think that and i know that sounds like a very political
02:11:48.660answer i'm i'm this but not that you know it's just but it's true i i um have heard
02:11:57.220but don't fully openly follow or attempt to overly subscribe to some of these internet
02:12:05.700personalities in the in the manosphere i think it is very interesting that their politics sometimes
02:12:13.460correlate i know that one of um he's uh i guess he's a follower of tate um you know he
02:12:22.580He he turns around and he's speaking as if he I don't know if he is actually, but speaking as if he is a Muslim and, you know, some of the points of consideration there and whether that's done for shock or whether that's done out of true belief, I don't know.
02:12:42.800But I do see that people's political and religious like tracks that they go on, depending on where they're at.
02:12:52.280I've often wondered, too, I mean, even with self-reflection, the Auschwitz Folk Assembly is a religion.
02:13:01.560We are faith. We are attempting to teach people and have them come back home to their native faith.
02:13:09.360um would the cult of personality versus the entirety of the church and trying to make sure
02:13:25.900I'm not saying that it's happening I'm not saying that there's anyone
02:13:29.640fanboying it's it's that the focus should be on the greater the church it can be us but it can
02:13:41.680be it can be anyone in the future depending on the way that the nornir lay out the threads
02:13:47.800and um i you know i could be gone tomorrow so the emphasis is towards the gods towards the ancestors
02:13:56.820towards the church. And I think that's more important. And when I see a lot of these guys
02:14:03.360in their self-aggrandizement, I wonder, you know, is that the proper path? Are they as pious as they
02:14:13.240say? Again, at the same time, you know, I don't necessarily
02:14:18.580uh covet jealousy towards someone who is successful but at the same time certain
02:14:28.900marks of success do not impress me you know if somebody's saying i can fly in a mini jet and do
02:14:35.220this and and i can buy you know this in this country that doesn't necessarily you know bring
02:14:44.580me to a sense of awe so sorry for that super political answer though i mean i think you
02:14:59.380all right um this is funny noting that um you didn't watch or listen to the video last night
02:15:07.780but uh oh but we got a question about the video uh says he saw the news video and uh has the afa
02:15:15.460ever thought of doing their own series of videos on the community building like food pantries or
02:15:20.340showing afa showcasing afa gatherings like taking our own media forward presence um yes absolutely
02:15:31.860i mean here is the medium that we have youtube is is good the only problem is is that youtube
02:15:38.260doesn't reach out as much as say a news station and no news station is going to run pro-positive
02:15:44.260stuff about us simply because of all the you know uh internet and non-government organizational um
02:15:53.700mythos if you will about us um we have been doing it slowly with our websites showing what we're
02:16:06.240doing on our websites and um that's the first start of controlling the narrative but the big
02:16:14.280thing is is that to be honest the reason why we haven't like you know ramrodded it down
02:16:21.840from every social media site because we're not doing it for clout.
02:16:26.800That's one of the most honest reasons.
02:16:32.320You know, feeding people in our local area, you know, generally when you see like a sports star
02:16:39.640and they're like, oh, I helped this person. And thankfully I was here and everything.
02:16:43.240And it's like a big photo op. That really isn't there yet.
02:16:48.660i think the other is logistics and technology uh wanting to have good um camera usage now we have
02:16:59.780our hofsa different areas so camera usage in california to florida to north carolina etc
02:17:07.460there would be some choppiness there but it it has been talked about um i think like you
02:17:15.140like you said the logistics we're during the food pantries and the community building and the
02:17:21.700gatherings we're busy running that doing things yes who who who records it who who videos it who
02:17:31.220takes pictures yeah and um sometimes to take a picture right yeah i mean and and nick's right we
02:17:41.620um sometimes at the food pantry just with scheduling the way it works out it's just me
02:17:45.860and my children and we drive four and a half hours to drop off food we'll fix some things
02:17:54.580that we can and then four and a half hours back so i mean we do massive amount of traveling twice
02:18:02.420a month sometimes um and it's just us there's not a lot of folks that are able to kind of
02:18:10.020focus in i would love for us to get to the point and i i fully intend i think that there will be a
02:18:17.980point where um we would have media and an ability to put our narrative our our story forward and
02:18:31.020you know uh i know people shy away from the word propaganda but it means to propagate and when you
02:18:37.720have these negative things propagating all the time our best uh defense is to offensively propagate
02:18:48.040the correct things that are going on the truth and you know when people are ignorant about a lot
02:18:52.840of things but i and uh for anybody who's watched the the news chain or the news um that came out
02:19:01.720on trt on youtube um you know the the biggest problem with the situation that that was
02:19:11.400the reporters were extremely kind they were extremely respectful and deferential in
02:19:19.480all ways i i didn't get um a nice guy up front and then a bad actor like once the camera started
02:19:27.320rolling but they do chop things up and they do you know split things around and they don't allow for
02:19:34.760full explanations and you know me long-winded you know but they were just like i need i needed that
02:19:41.560little thing and they cut it off um and uh so you have to bear that in mind when you watch these
02:19:50.040things and at the same time don't get filled with dread um when these come out we get an overwhelming
02:20:00.680wave of emails and a lot of them are supportive and a lot of them are supportive from non-folk
02:20:07.400uh well like i remember with uh murdoch it was a lot of non-folk women um
02:20:13.000um I I'm pretty sure they were black women but they were like very supportive in that what we
02:20:22.540were doing for our own people it could be perhaps because they feel that um you know there's a huge
02:20:29.920amount of push for interracial coupling and that their uh men folk are you know being encouraged
02:20:36.760go for our women folk and so perhaps there's a link there where they feel you know that this
02:20:43.480is a good thing that we're shoring up um and i think the biggest concern for everyone is our
02:20:51.880intentions and you know after a few months they they find we want privacy we want to be able to
02:20:59.320honor our gods and our ancestors and we will help the community because helping
02:21:07.320is noble and we are as the outsider focus assembly one of the key tenants of our faith
02:21:14.200is to move towards nobility there's no reason to be ignoble to someone simply because they are who
02:21:22.920they are but it's it we we need rationale if we are to have any stand against someone if they are
02:21:36.200detrimental and want to hurt us hurt our children yes that's rational but we have no irrational fear
02:21:43.240towards people so helping people as it is and again we find i find in north carolina the uh the
02:21:52.280the help is you know fairly even um between the peoples that live there and um
02:22:02.360you know i think another thing too is um they wonder perhaps like if we're you know
02:22:10.280feeding one group of people better and then just given kind of scraps off on the others no
02:22:15.480we try to maintain a fairness we try to be noble in our deeds even when no one's looking or if
02:22:22.760they're postulating things without any evidence it doesn't really matter at the end of the day
02:22:26.760we're just acting on our own with nobility first because that never comes into question that never
02:22:35.400that will never stand if it's an accusation there's no need for it so um yeah i hope that answers
02:22:45.480a little bit of that i had you know the the interview itself i i could talk at length about
02:22:51.480that too it was very interesting next question is i think a bit easier for you uh what type of beard
02:22:59.080oil do you use ah you're gonna do a barber question i have a barber for anybody that's
02:23:06.280watching that doesn't know i'm a master barber um technically by license um and uh
02:23:16.840so i was just talking about this today i have what i consider a short beard i believe that
02:23:24.760any beard that extends to your collarbone is a mid beard and any beard that goes past your
02:23:30.200collarbone is long beard and beard oils are not needed for a shorter beard because the hair is
02:23:40.040pulling oil out of the skin so the better thing to do is to switch over to a balm because you can
02:23:48.440control it's it's a lot lighter and then the other is uh to buy a beard conditioner to use in your
02:23:57.400shower so you know you you shampoo your head you you shampoo your beard and then you rinse that
02:24:03.080out and you put a a beard conditioner in it and let it sit for 60 seconds and you walk out of
02:24:10.600there it's like silk and you know if you later on in the day you want to add a little beard balm to
02:24:17.320just make sure it's soft you know but the the big thing about short beards too is they retain their
02:24:24.520shape so the way that they're cut and shaped they don't really drift so if you have a medium beard
02:24:31.640you have a long beard that shape is going to sometimes it splits in the middle it frays
02:24:38.200um so that's when you should start considering beard oils um and just be careful about putting
02:24:46.280like the beard oil in your mustache um if you are getting dry in here that oil isn't really
02:24:52.600going to help it's going to wick out to the ends of the hair you need to get something that when
02:24:57.000you're in the shower you're rubbing it down to your skin like a conditioner that will help with
02:25:02.040any dry spots um yeah that's my take on that i have a i recommend there is a brand called cremo
02:25:12.840now i don't recommend everything from them but they make a phenomenal beard conditioner um but
02:25:19.240you need to find the one that has the almost like a shampoo bottle top um and i've only been able to
02:25:25.000find those on amazon that that opens up a whole bunch of stuff i you know all of a sudden people
02:25:33.480start talking about like what razors should i get or uh that would be funny yeah he also mentioned
02:25:40.520uh wanting to be noble enough to earn a haircut from you and i mentioned it's a winter night's
02:25:46.840tradition to so get to uh new hampshire in uh in uh october and he said unfortunately he'll be
02:25:54.200uh in scandinavia in october well i am also um cutting hair at austra so i will be doing
02:26:05.160haircuts there i'm bringing my stuff enough people kind of asked me like hey did you bring your stuff
02:26:09.960and i was like oh i don't i can't you know it's too busy but now um witten young and uh his wife
02:26:19.240and everyone at the hof we're they're they are so well uh put together now that i feel like i can
02:26:28.680take some time to maybe we have you on the on the on the schedule for a blunt so you'll have
02:26:35.880all the free time yeah well and i'm doing storytelling too i'm going to be doing
02:26:42.760storytelling for the children and i will be doing storytelling for children and adults that one will
02:26:48.120be a little bit more um graphic and uh more uh warrior um ethos versus the children's one which
02:26:57.880is usually toned toned down and and um just made less aggressive
02:27:07.880all right have you read william morris's poetic version of the story of the both songs in the fall
02:27:13.240of nibelungs if so how accurate was it to the original uh legends okay the name is not
02:27:23.320hitting me so i don't know if i've read it i've read a lot of different excerpts but william morris um
02:27:38.360that that got me i don't i don't recall the name um and now i'm i'm writing things down
02:27:48.680have i read this yeah have you read it i don't believe i have
02:27:57.960william morris's translation of the volsunga saga now you know when you get into certain folks like
02:28:08.360the children of odin or uh there's certain books that are kind of outer removed um and i wonder
02:28:17.320about them and their uh licensing that they take in telling the stories uh what was his last name
02:28:27.320again william morris morris yeah and he said his version of the versunga saga and the story of the
02:28:37.080nibelons right yeah the the nibelungs the ones of the mist nibel is mist or shadow the the shadowy
02:28:52.600misty ones um and that though that those interconnected to the stories of uh the cursed
02:28:59.720ring um and of course the great opera is amazing um but no i've never read that that version i'm
02:29:10.520sorry i really wish i could answer that all right more barber advice um fondy recommend hair tonics
02:29:22.120no i do not recommend hair tonics um they are again kind of like an addition on to
02:29:32.440hair and if your hair is short if you're a man and you have a proper haircut it'll probably be
02:29:38.040short and sometimes hair tonics can either have alcohol and dry you out or they have oils and
02:29:44.120they add oil onto natural hair that's you know that might get oily anyways so i'm not a huge fan
02:29:53.320of tonics um i just recommend that men stop using two and ones three and ones you should
02:30:01.640uh i have a very militaristic regiment and the idea is you know to wash the head wet wash the
02:30:08.920head wash the beard and then with a washcloth do your entire upper body rinse everything off
02:30:16.280add another soaping so i do two soaps and a conditioner and i learned this in barber school
02:30:22.280because that's what we do when we uh wash at uh wash stations um the second and everyone says
02:30:29.720you know that's going to dry me out it's going to rob my hair of you know valuable uh nutrients
02:30:36.360know that that first wash only gets surface debris the second wash actually gets into the
02:30:44.360inner pieces of the follicles of hair and then you do a conditioner to replenish your hair
02:30:51.960of those lost things you let it sit for 60 seconds so i do upper body and wash the hair
02:30:58.040lower body wash the hair and then i take time to uh wash my feet while the conditioner sits in
02:31:08.360and that's what i really recommend to guys to help them out
02:31:14.200all right um sierra chapman folks that are cal what are your opinions on the recent documentary
02:31:22.680well we kind of already talked about that um also are you going to watch the new matt walsh
02:31:29.320documentaries i don't i don't even know what she's talking about i don't pay attention to the matt
02:31:35.320walsh documentaries um the last one i i watched or i watched uh what is a woman um and you know
02:31:44.360i thought it was pretty funny i i'm just i think right of center um stuff is very rare so watching
02:31:54.680that is was more entertaining i do think matt walsh is an interesting character he was um
02:32:05.160i remember he was sitting on a panel and there was like the catholic uh
02:32:09.800knowles i forgot his first name and ben shapiro and he was saying like i don't believe that we
02:32:17.640should uh you know conduct our patriotism in direct reference to our support to an ally and um
02:32:28.360that kind of shook everybody up on the panel which it shouldn't it's such a you know um uh
02:32:36.120innocuous point that you know our our your nation shouldn't as patriots you know you shouldn't be so
02:32:46.440dependent on you know also touting um cross relations with like I don't know France or
02:32:54.600England or what have you so it was pretty funny to see that and that made me wonder about Matt
02:32:59.400wall she's kind of a an interesting character so his um stuff i do watch every now and then yeah
02:33:07.160uh what is a woman and am i racist and i watched both of them um but yeah you know uh at the same
02:33:18.240time it is you wonder about the daily wire and uh prager you of course and um epoch times and
02:33:28.740I take them with a grain of salt. I find myself to be more in the middle on the left, right paradigm. I find myself to be more in a third position on a lot of that stuff. So I take some consideration on the left. I do take some consideration and critique on the right. And yeah, but I've seen both of them. I thought they were interesting.
02:33:56.940Oh, and your question about the article, or not the article, the news that came out by TRT.
02:34:07.100Like I said, the people that came there were very respectful, but I knew that this was going to be a hit piece.
02:34:16.080And the dramatic music, you know, the implications that we weren't religious.
02:34:23.480And I think that we blew that out of the park when they were there.
02:34:26.940they saw us hold bloats um and they were super respectful about it but uh you know when my
02:34:35.160children were there doing bloats which is our religious services um in the doc or in the article
02:34:43.200or documentary or whatever it would be classified as they were like and they indoctrinate their
02:34:49.680children and it was like this comical music and i was like yeah it's like yes it's our religion like
02:35:03.760i don't so comical to some sense i also feel that the head of the media of for them wanted a hit
02:35:14.160piece and i really feel that they had to work for it i think they came there and found out a lot
02:35:21.520about us i remember the reporter even said hey can um after all of this is done can i come back and
02:35:30.960maybe because i'm a photojournalist can i come back and take some pictures and i was like well
02:35:36.880it really depends on how bad this thing is and he was like fair enough fair enough and he even asked
02:35:43.760that to elsewhere so um i don't know if he's gonna come back and say hey you know that wasn't me
02:35:51.760that was the upper echelons i'm just a reporter etc i don't know how we'll play that but
02:36:00.320that's what he was from my side of the camera with him and um and he had a producer with him
02:36:09.040a woman who was very nice she was she blessed our our hoff she was um pregnant she was due
02:36:17.600in a couple of months and you know that's always a good blessing to have a woman uh with full child
02:36:25.440healthy and folk woman in our hoff um but she was kind of the hardball uh she would walk up behind
02:36:34.320him and kind of feed him these you know more aggressive questions about you know do you
02:36:40.800denounce uh anybody who practices fascism coming into your into your church and it's like does the
02:36:48.960does the catholic church do like a political roster on everybody that you know comes in or
02:36:56.640you know is this about making people realize that this is not a political battle this is a spiritual
02:37:04.160battle and it requires us to fix ourselves to fix our family to fix our deeds and to start acting in
02:37:14.640a way where i think a lot of people who are say politically trying to rabble rouse it's easier to
02:37:24.320you know make people angry on the internet and and then you know nobody knows who you are
02:37:30.080personally and that's it but there's a different sense when you suddenly change and you're like no
02:37:37.200i have to change myself uh you know my my my family my work i'm a representative of my faith
02:37:44.960and you start going from negative you know pot clanging to positive building and reinforcement
02:37:55.360and that's hard work and i think a lot of people don't want to do it or they just can't or they
02:38:00.560realize and a lot of those people do leave angry um you know i've heard it you you guys aren't
02:38:09.440working for the the the principles that you know i thought you were working for when you came in
02:38:15.760they they miss it they miss the point and they really sometimes just want to
02:38:21.360beat the pot make everybody angry on the internet and just live in that obscurity and going from
02:38:30.040that to having your real name being up front and out there um and you know your your existence
02:38:39.540is a form of activism where you are doing things and not being worried about oh my work this or
02:38:53.480that and i know i'm i'm self-employed but um you know understanding this is our faith we have
02:39:01.260religious freedoms and you know just because a non-government organization and a bunch of lawyers
02:39:07.660a cabal of lawyers um says that we are something doesn't mean that it's true and we have so much
02:39:16.360deed proving against a lot of the sniping that goes on
02:39:22.240all righty this next one i'm going to apologize to the fellow who asked it because
02:39:31.380i'd skipped over it thinking it was directed towards the chat apparently i've been informed
02:39:36.740he wants me to ask it yeah yeah i i did want to say too though there was a lot of good theological
02:39:47.060questions last week and i would love to answer some of that stuff like about the oust veneer
02:39:53.380and all that but here we go we're going we're going to travel this is a little it's not it's
02:39:58.180not about it's not about the interview or the interview anyway uh does anyone else feel a
02:40:02.660little a bit stronger and luckier when they wear their hammer not necessarily physically
02:40:08.980it's almost like a state of mind that's how i started the habit just wanted the strength to
02:40:13.300face the day yeah uh i saw this come in really early on i hope they're still with us whoever
02:40:22.900asked the question yeah yeah yeah okay so um absolutely um
02:40:30.020i i think that it starts with the testament of truth the testament towards returning to
02:40:41.300the gods of your ancestors is the most far back primal source imagine us as being kind of the
02:40:50.240ends of the roots of a tree and this is all the way back there and once you become aware
02:40:55.980you suddenly see yourself as not being so disconnected and then you see you know history
02:41:03.660your ancestors and then you see the people that revived Ausatru in the 70s and 80s and a lot of
02:41:11.820the stuff that they were going through and then it comes to you and you suddenly realize you're
02:41:16.920part of a bigger picture and you're not so alone you're not you're not bearing some great
02:41:25.260responsibility per se of the past but you have a responsibility of the future but it's not i don't
02:41:32.940feel the anxiety of that i feel like almost as if i was to shape clay and and the excitement of where
02:41:41.580this can go and what this can do um i did not see myself in 2016 being on youtube and talking to
02:41:51.180people all over the u.s or even all over the world um and getting a chance to speak about
02:41:59.100my beliefs in ousatru um and i think we need that we need a chance for us to
02:42:09.100unify and get on the same page we've been so disconnected you know there's people
02:42:16.220um that like you know on telegram but they're only doing one way they're just spouting out stuff
02:42:23.380and it's up to the readers to take it like it uh or not like it or what have you but here's
02:42:31.320interaction there's an ability for other people who might catch this later to listen and hear
02:42:38.240um opinions and takes on faith um that we just don't hear people talking about
02:42:48.800it is it in a book or is it you know perhaps like a single guy speaking about tenants on
02:42:55.560on the on the internet and i think that would encourage people to come down here
02:43:00.780and speak more about it but yes i feel empowered by that i always have since 1994
02:44:59.980is that is that it on the question that's the question oh okay yeah on that subject spawn who
02:45:05.260are the gods of time and germanic pathology in cosmology germanic cosmology okay so one thing
02:45:10.940that's super important to remember is that there are elements of of existence there are primordial
02:45:21.740powers and the isir are stewards they hold dominion over the influx of those things but
02:45:32.940also too there are yachtins who have influence on these primordial powers the best way to think of
02:45:41.340it is we don't have like a goddess of the sun in more respects we have the goddess that presides
02:45:50.780over the must spell spark it's it's uniquely different than what i see um perhaps maybe in
02:46:01.180modern representations but yes let's look at the norns first the norns are in heaven and they are
02:46:10.060at the well of earth at the base of the tree the tree itself is the uh circulatory heart
02:46:19.500of the entire cosmos and you know no none know how deep or how far those roots go um
02:46:29.420and the first root the or excuse me i should say the the the third root it is the third root
02:46:36.140um it is the last root the one that lays itself into the well of earth and earth is the origin
02:46:46.380of time all things that happen flow from this source so all events all indications of
02:46:58.620action everything flowing and every day the holy gods come there and they meet out
02:47:06.060the judgment of men is how the doom of men is written and i have always taken that that the
02:47:12.780the holy gods are influencing time from the origin. Is it done? I'm not proposing that the
02:47:25.380gods have done everything they need to do in some great past time. But what I am saying is that as
02:47:34.140time flows and as the nornir um place into the water the skein they are in the upper world and
02:47:44.620that water flows down through the mountains in in and down into the middle world and that is
02:47:52.300allegoric for time is ordered by the gods of order and there they touch the skein of water
02:48:01.340those ripples that they make their dominion um i was telling my son today he's 13 years old we're
02:48:10.060starting to get into deeper religious concepts and you know when he was younger we'd tell the
02:48:16.540stories about lord thor the red warrior with the hammer and the chariot but and i remember him even
02:48:24.380looking in storms to see if he could find him um and then you know as he got older it's like
02:48:30.860there's storms all over the world but the dominion that lord thor places in the through the skein
02:48:38.940of water that is the primordial source of time every ripple every fingertip touch is again
02:48:47.980placing dominion and oftentimes that's because there's ripples coming in from elsewhere the
02:48:54.780The Jotuns and their activities in the middle have to be headed off or there is a sense where the gods have to cap off the most primordial place in the middle world, which is the ocean.
02:49:10.580So they bring Eir and Raun under their dominion, but not always.
02:49:19.640Some of them, you know, move their way around.
02:49:23.440so we see that a lot in our holy gods when we see render the her name means the rind or the
02:49:32.160like a crust of ice or snow we see grither grither means like grinding and conflict
02:49:42.400or we see it with skadi the scathing one um i believe that these are primordial elements in
02:49:50.240our middle world uh that are in they're in dominion of these beings so glaciers scathing
02:50:01.760the mountainside avalanche or just the the overall presence of mountain and that scabi has dominion
02:50:13.120in these areas and she comes under allegiance of the gods so there are elemental points where the
02:50:22.400uh the gods you know unite and this started with the vanir i've always taken the vanir to be the
02:50:29.600gods of water and of the earth and the isir are the gods of the sky and of light and of fire and
02:50:38.000when they have their battle they finally come together cosmic order natural law but it doesn't
02:50:46.160stop there the yachtins some of them do join and then others don't so to speak a little bit more
02:50:53.680um because one of the questions is can we get a lowdown on the house veneer
02:51:01.280yeah um well and i'll get back to why and some of that stuff in a minute um
02:51:09.720so to answer further there are the norms but there is also mimir this brings us to the second well
02:51:19.480and i've heard people try to proclaim that mimir is the godhead of time but what they're forgetting
02:51:27.280is Mimir's well is the receptacle of time. So all things in origin, there is a starting point.
02:51:36.320If Earth's well is the starting point, way up high. Remember I spoke about our ancestors,
02:51:44.520you know, the center of the world somewhere there was these mountains and this is where the gods
02:51:49.140live and there's the tree. They weren't separated little bubble worlds. Of course, we do that now.
02:51:57.280But that flow of water and roots goes down, and all things that happen from the starting point end at the ending point, which is the well of memory.
02:52:12.560Mimir's well, and it is memory because you cannot have a memory without experience.
02:52:20.380Earth's well is the origin. Mimir's well is the receptacle of receiving origin.
02:52:25.760so you know the folks that are like oh no mimir is the godhead of time and he is you know by
02:52:33.680extension lord ovin i think they're misled and they need to understand why the upper middle
02:52:42.540and lower world cosmology and the movement between things is so important so earth's well
02:52:50.880is that origin. Mimir's well is the receptacle of experience, all things that happen, all things
02:52:57.960that flow. And on top of that, Jotunheim, just like Vonaheim, has a secular relationship with
02:53:08.520the middle world. They are flowing in something and pulling out something. They're in the middle
02:53:16.600world, and that's another reason why they're called the waning, the vanir, that waning, that
02:53:22.460rise and fall. So they are placing in life, and they are receiving death, or in essence, the life
02:53:31.260essence that goes back. Life is constantly being pushed in and constantly dying, and it's this
02:53:37.440natural law. But Jotunheim is different. Jotunheim, and the reason why Mimir's Well is in Jotunheim,
02:53:44.580not Votnheim is because of the purpose that Jotunheim is doing. Jotunheim places in resistance,
02:53:53.880deterioration. It's constantly trying to break things down. And as it does dissolve, it also
02:54:02.440retracts the proto matter, the breakdown of it all. So here we have Jotunheim
02:54:14.320and its purpose is dissolvement life is here dissolvement is constantly working against it
02:54:24.140so life is going to evolve but life dies and comes back and there's this interplay between
02:54:31.540the gods of life the vanir and the jotun the beings that are trying to tear it or break it
02:54:40.900or just by their very existence there are like a resistance to everything like a like a stiff wind
02:54:49.140or you know the the water breaking down stone or the erosion of something they're constantly there
02:54:57.320and pulling back into Jotunheim in a way I I often feel like it's an attempt to
02:55:05.380retract that which was taken from them by the gods. And that's kind of how the cycle begins.
02:55:13.480But since everything's being drawn back in, Mimir's well is there and time itself is being
02:55:20.560drawn back in there. And then we see with Thor, when he goes to Jotunheim, he goes against
02:55:30.100Utgard-Loki, sometimes referred to as his mother, his grandmother, or his nanny, but she is clearly
02:55:42.140time. She stands against Thor, and Thor only bends one knee to her, and everyone laughs,
02:55:52.560of course, because he's lost a fight to a grand-grand or a nana, and then later on it is
02:55:58.400revealed she is the embodiment of that and i think she's the embodiment of that dissolvement
02:56:08.340of time which is right with the uh entirety of the autumn she dissolves things over time
02:56:17.820she breaks them down and she is the core principality of that that is sent into the
02:56:24.380middle world, and Lord Thor stood up against her without any golden apples, without any
02:56:32.880understanding of the situation, and only bent a knee. So when you talk about time, there is,
02:56:42.340now when we start to get a little bit more esoteric, I would say Heimdallur is a lord of
02:56:49.820time um in the iron mark calendar we refer to saturday as heimdall's day and the reason for
02:57:00.200this is is because it's noted heimdall sees the grass grow he hears the sheep uh wool growing
02:57:09.440he is one foot in the middle world and one foot in the heavenly realm he is a focus of the light
02:57:19.040that is the divine. And that I don't think is accidental, that it comes out prismatically.
02:57:29.760He is an orderer of the divine. And then he goes down into the middle world and goes with the
02:57:37.500first generation, great grandmother, and asks if he can be invited into their home. And so this
02:57:45.660generation brings in the divine and in doing so they're transformed for forever they they grow
02:57:52.200and he does this multiple times and so in the story you see a generational
02:57:58.500sense of of uh it's they're not actually people this is symbolic of a generation an evolution of
02:58:08.200the folk. So he is oftentimes, I think, at least for me, but looked over as in his prominence in
02:58:19.300time, his ability to give. He is often seen in stasis. He sits in Himenberg. He has, you know,
02:58:29.500his duty and waits with Gjellarhorn, or perhaps Gjellarhorn is waiting for him in Mimir as well.
02:58:36.820That's an interesting thing in the Grimnest Mal, but I won't go into that right now.
03:03:43.460And then they are very particular in implementing their presence within the fates of men.
03:03:53.300And then we have Abid, the nanny or grandmother in Jotunheim.
03:04:01.300And we have Mimir, the lord who is placed over the well, the receptacle of action.
03:04:09.000And Lord Odin's eye is there to witness.
03:04:11.640and in a way I think it's poetic for he is he has synthesized with Yggdrasil
03:04:20.420but he also has an eye in the well of memory just in case and you notice this poetically
03:04:29.380with Lord Odin all the time he has the ravens out to gather information he's you know always
03:04:37.780around and about looking for things searching for things but just in case he misses something
03:04:44.300it all flows back to the secret well mimir's well and he'll catch it there
03:04:51.640all righty so this one's going to be fun um and you've already kind of touched on a little bit of
03:05:03.260the origin of yotans but this one specifically is seeing as the yotnar are the alsatru equivalent to
03:05:13.580the titans or the asuras do you believe yotnar are actually demons as in a hindu faith they
03:05:22.160literally believe the asuras are demons well i think that you see that influence
03:05:28.920far more wherever aryan folk have kind of intermixed with other folk you know the greeks
03:05:36.380or the hellenics with the phoenicians you see this with the iranians and their mixture with
03:05:43.360the leftovers of the sumerians and you see this too with the aryans or oraya who come into india
03:05:53.860and mixed with the Dravidians, there is this polarizing effect of, of one group to another.
03:06:03.980And I think that's because the social situation reflects that there are two groups. And a lot of
03:06:12.460the times they were resisting this intermixture, you know, and the Araya who come into India say,
03:06:18.660you're not allowed to eat the cattle and then over time it comes to a point where it's
03:06:25.720no one eats the cattle um but when you look at the celtic and germanic the famorians
03:06:36.480and the yachtnar what you find is that it's it's far more gray and what i mean by that is you'll
03:06:46.040find there's uh written about the famorians are written about the yotnar they're
03:06:52.200massive strong uh some of them are bright and beautiful um they're not just simply
03:07:00.920you know fanged horned animalistic creatures of of uh you know degeneracy and primalness
03:07:10.920do they exist yes i would say that the thirst but the thirst word even by the time in the 14th century
03:07:19.160is used kind of in not improperly but i think without consideration because the meaning had
03:07:30.280been lost so you'll see thurser used in relation and we can see that with the runes the runes
03:07:38.920mentioned the thurser as being more a kind of evil so i think that the the thurser rune
03:07:47.720or the thurser uh word was eventually transferred over to troll so if there was an equivalency
03:07:57.080of a demon or um a jinn or and i know i'm using um technically demon isn't the right word uh
03:08:06.520christianity is semitic so it would be should dim um and or yes i believe it's should dim
03:08:16.440i i forgot the aramaic word for it um but they ended up using greek angelos and demon um
03:08:25.160the equivalency of something like that i would argue is thirst or troll and uh for those that
03:08:31.720are you know listening it's t-h-u-r-s not thirst but thirst um and i would even safer bet would be
03:08:41.720that it evolved into the word troll now trolls have kind of been dominionized over time and
03:08:47.640turned into cute little naked things with poofy hair and and what have you um but
03:08:54.760But a true troll, a true thirst is something of just desperate isolation, a piece of that from the world of the Jotnar that sneaks its way in and nests itself in a place of great trauma or great isolation.
03:09:20.280usually seems to be those two and then attacks defends and just holds that area
03:09:30.520um and does great malice to anyone that happens to come upon them or is you know again trapped
03:09:40.380sometimes in those places and um they're foul beings they're foul creatures and um i think
03:09:48.720that they they do take different shapes and they come there's different things you know uh again
03:09:55.680you in in um the sagas you know we hear about the troll wives though the wolf riding or troll
03:10:04.000witches um again troll is a perfect example of this the wolf represents mobility they have an
03:10:10.560ability to leave jotunheim and come in here at great speed and they're usually here like a wolf
03:10:17.280amongst an uh a uh society built around animal husbandry they're here for no good and they're
03:10:25.280here for a voracious appetite to tear and to burn and to break or to plague on children or to plague
03:10:33.200on sleeping people and all of those things and uh i know that some people might not
03:10:43.360conceptualize this but it is the gods in particular it is thor and his dominion that
03:10:49.120keeps them at bay from being able to roll in here in waves and droves do they sneak past yes
03:10:58.000and do they exist yes but uh thor keeps them at bay in great amount and there are ways you can
03:11:08.480deal with them um whether it's word locking them or you know whether it's extraditing them out um
03:11:17.840and things like that i you know that's a very interesting subject but yeah i would say the
03:11:22.320equivalency would be thirst or i really want our people to bring back the usage of the word troll
03:11:29.840in its proper sense because by christianity's time it was turn it was starting to turn
03:11:38.320but there is a reason why they speak about the troll witches wolf riding troll witches
03:11:44.400terrible beings with the with the possibility now there's also an understanding that even
03:11:50.560some of these beings have been brought under the dominion of the gods at balder's funeral a wolf
03:11:58.560riding jotnar named hyrokin comes to the funeral of balder now she is later killed um but that's
03:12:10.160for other grievances but you see was is that story based perhaps is it a story plot um but
03:12:18.720it was not seen as so distinct that the gods would not have uh her in their presence so you
03:12:27.920see that in other kind of uh religious dichotomies but for our ancestors her showing up there yes is
03:12:36.800crazy but not to the point where you know she's the uh fouling um the the state of heaven if you will
03:12:48.320that is the extent of our questions so far tonight okay yeah and i wanted to kick back
03:12:59.240to i didn't get a chance to answer about there's one thing i wanted to there was a question about
03:13:05.060the oust veneer so if you read any ausa true books from uh 1980s on you will see every chapter
03:13:15.240there's a classification generally it'll say the gods the goddesses and that's it
03:13:23.720but i think that's under detailed sometimes you'll see something like the gods or the i
03:13:29.400the house the our senior and then you'll see the troll brides or which again not i'm not good with
03:13:38.120that or the jotun brides and i think those people are trying to emphasize that there's like different
03:13:47.480race um thing going on here but but what i always viewed it as and why i wanted to create a list
03:13:58.040for our folk to be able to use as a red line it's a baseline to to know the list is to know
03:14:07.960a great amount of war um and also the list you know you get the list and you go to um uh
03:14:17.000you can go to wikipedia and look them up and get a brief synopsis of their understanding most
03:14:23.320ausatric folk don't know that grither gave thor the iron rod to help him defend himself
03:14:31.880um against the jotens and um that she is kind of the ant like there's yard who is of the good earth
03:14:40.600and then there's grither who is kind of of the cracked earth the earthquake the geyser the the
03:14:47.080the venomous pools of water um so almost like the sister of yard helps yard's son and gives
03:14:58.040him this iron rod to fight off the yotnar long before he gets me older and um so i realized that
03:15:07.880there was a need so i i started to pen out an understanding based off of the gil beginning
03:15:16.120that we have 12 owls and we have 14 also in here that he specifically listed and then we moved to
03:15:25.080the oust veneer but i didn't want to call them troll brides or jotain brides they are clearly
03:15:31.240beloved gerth is beloved of frey so i believe that they are of that dominion so they they bring
03:15:42.600themselves into the dominion of the gods and they become part of the gods and that's why i did that
03:15:49.880was to um portray a lot of that understanding and give people a road map because they don't know um
03:15:59.960you know yes the number of our gods can be variable based on every aussie that you talk to
03:16:06.040but i would say red line 42 a lot of people might not ever have been able to uh answer that but um
03:16:17.160again that was the point of it was to give people
03:16:20.680a you are here on the map and work their way out about that
03:16:27.400because it's just not been it's been a millstrom of confusion or or generally people that write
03:16:32.600the books are like you know there are many gods but these are the gods that you should focus on
03:16:37.240or sometimes it's like don't focus on any of the gods just focus on lord othen
03:16:41.720and it i don't i don't think that was the right pathway so creating the list of
03:16:49.880house our senior aust veneer and then the heavenly wardens was me trying to formulate
03:16:57.240hierarchy through observation looking at the lore not trying to cram the gods into um
03:17:06.360you know pigeonholes if you will um but observing and simply seeing how these things are
03:17:14.120and then classifying accordingly because hierarchy is important it is a part of our gods our gods are
03:17:21.720the lords of order um ultimately and so a lot of folks have often asked you know what is the
03:17:30.360hierarchy of our divinity what is the understanding of how things are structured and no one could
03:17:37.080ever give them an answer it was always just a broad and ethereal answer and more or less just
03:17:46.280focus on you know lord ovin and lord thor and i did it also to reinvigorate the women of our folk
03:17:56.040to build a better relationship with the maidens of fensaller and to start they already have a
03:18:02.840good relationship with uh lady air the goddess of healing um we have you know prayer groups and all
03:18:11.960those but for our women folk to call upon snotra in relation to um like frith within a high stress
03:18:27.880social event in which everyone minds their p's and q's um that's where her dominion is at
03:18:35.960and so i think or or you know to teach and to guide uh folks to become better at those things
03:18:43.840so i really wanted the ladies of our folk to start building a better connection with the
03:18:52.420maidens of fence all right i feel really nerdy that when you when you listed and you said
03:18:59.740there's 42 on your list my first thought was uh the engine to life universe and everything
03:19:08.140oh um what is that called it's a it's a book right galaxy by douglas yeah i mean i know but
03:19:18.220that's the one thing that we have definitely determined over the last like couple of episodes
03:19:23.100of vns is the oust veneer are this it is the the the the overlap um whether we're talking about
03:19:33.180someone who honors nahelania we don't know if nahelania was seen as an oust by our ancestors
03:19:41.100or an elevated mortal and to do no offense to her the oust veneer the list is there that's
03:19:50.060that's that's huge um so we are not trying to put the gods in boxes and we are also always trying
03:19:59.900to consider with utmost respect the way we go forward and we chose the gil beginning um because
03:20:07.820it was so clear and it was from a time uh when our faith was i wouldn't say being practiced
03:20:16.860because by that time snowy wasn't practicing it but it was so close the jump from one peninsula
03:20:24.140to the other and it i do believe that the holy gods were involved in that being a seed that
03:20:31.820would eventually germinate uh numerous times actually over generations many iterations but
03:20:39.180for us it finally blossomed so all righty not sure this is a question but it's a good enough
03:20:48.300statement and it and it's something you can comment on for sure about the veneer and the
03:20:54.620waning i've heard that a late danish manuscript equated nyother with saturn based on them being
03:21:03.180gods of harvest your there doesn't seem nearly as dark a character though as far as cosmological
03:21:10.700roles go emeater seems to fill saturn slash cronus's role more yeah i i agree um and i think
03:21:20.620they're stretching at it to a too much to a detriment that's another thing when we get into
03:21:28.620people trying to pigeonhole the gods in other aryan branches um and they disregard the truth
03:21:40.300the truth is each of these aryan branches are very different branches of culture and
03:21:47.820And the gods are the gods and the hierarchy of the gods that mankind places, the folk place on them is not always the same amongst every culture.
03:22:04.580And that's why I brought up the tripartite and I started formulating the theory of the tripartite is we always see a deus father and we see a deus mother.
03:22:15.240and then they pass away in some way shape or form they leave or they die um and then there
03:22:21.960is a tripartite established there are three major gods and uh you know amongst the hindus
03:22:30.080it was indra and um i believe vishnu i always get the or varuna i always get the v ones mixed up
03:22:39.460and Agni from the Bhagavad Gita you know um the Greeks numbered there's Zeus has one scepter
03:22:47.780and Poseidon has a trident and everyone forgets that Hades has a bidet one two and three
03:22:56.500and we see it with the Gauls with Teratatis, Tyrannus, and Essus the tripartite is there
03:23:06.060And even in adjacent, Aryan adjacent cultures like the Etruscans, they have a tripartite.
03:23:14.460I think they were influenced greatly by the Aryans that moved down the Italian peninsula, but they also were not Aryan as well.
03:23:25.360They were half, the mystery of where they come from.
03:23:28.760And so their tripartite is the only one that has two goddesses and a god.
03:23:34.520And when you look at these tripartites, the one thing that I was trying to figure out was, if you look at them, there's kind of these roles played. There's dynamicism, there's catalystism, and there's stasis.
03:23:52.020And you look at each of the Aryan cultures, and they place the, or I would say they set the seat for the gods to sit in accordance with the way that they need them.
03:24:04.740The gods are not limited at all, I think, in any way, shape, or form with one form or stasis or set place.
03:24:36.180And Svaurog is the judge and the creator.
03:24:40.980He has fire, and he sits in his throne, and he looks down, and he judges men.
03:24:47.000And then there is Perun the striker, catalyst, pretty straightforward all the way across.
03:24:53.720And then there is Velez, the dynamic one. He comes from the underworld, he comes up, he can go into the heavenly realms, he uses magic, he obfuscates his face with a mask, he can change into animals, he's very wizardly, if you will.
03:25:10.760So we have these three thrones that the Slavic people organically, like, not construct, but through the relationship form.
03:25:24.780Whereas for us, the Germanics, it's very clear. We have the dynamic lord, Lord Odin, who is a tripartite unto himself.
03:25:35.700He is three. He's mentioned as being three in the beginning. He is Olden, Vili, and Vae. And we don't really get a lot of what happens to Vili and Vae after that, other than he is this dynamic being.
03:25:52.220And the number three is a symbol of dynamicism, like in the Valknot or the Triskelion.
03:26:00.400And then we have the Catalyst Lord, of course, Thor.
03:26:04.380And then we have the Stasis Lord, Tyr.
03:26:07.700I mean, he is mentioned as being the North Star, the unending and unwavering point.
03:26:15.220and once the hand is removed the sword hand the adjudication of divine power becomes only holding
03:26:24.900position that's i think a very interesting point so you know we see that in the days of our week
03:26:32.960tuesday wednesday thursday um and you go through every aryan branch there is a tripartite there is
03:26:40.520always heavenly father and a mother and then the tripartite stabilizes everything after their their
03:26:50.860loss so all righty i apologize if you hear anything in the background there is uh there's
03:27:00.060wind going that's gonna that's shaking the uh shaking the rv but uh we just got in homo is in
03:27:07.020the chat donated $10 to the Njortov fund. So thank you so much, sir. I appreciate that.
03:27:55.240Didn't you say it was related to, like, passing gas?
03:27:57.340well pooper yes and then nickel is goblin oh far goblins far goblins you know
03:28:07.540awesome um how would you describe alsatru to someone who has never heard of it before
03:28:15.820I would say the native Germanic faith of Europe that is pre-Christian and goes all the way back to a time when all groups were one.
03:28:39.920So, you know, polytheistic native faith of Europe of the Germanic peoples that reflects all the way back to before time and history and before even, you know, Mesopotamia and all of those things.
03:29:01.500Our faith has been formulated, and it is a faith built on heroism, built on nobility, built on the desire to have bright fame and to live a good life and a noble life that inspires future generations and makes our ancestors proud.
03:29:30.000And I mean, at that point, I would kind of stop.
03:29:32.620I would say, you know, we could go into there is layers in which we place, you know, levels of human or godly soul mastery over animal or animism.
03:29:48.600And we have ancestor worship and we are polytheistic and so on and so forth.
03:29:53.200But I would just go with that is that we are a faith that extends before time recorded with our people that eventually culminated in the Germanic culture and I think was the least molested.
03:30:12.080It's the most unobscured of all of the branches through migration that has culminated in the Germanic people and eventually, and lastly, the Nordic people before Christianity worked its way in through Europe.
03:30:33.040i think that's uh a very well put swan answer in about maybe 90 seconds
03:30:43.620oh i see rage red's gonna go i know it's getting late i think do you think we should call it from
03:30:50.420here i don't want to we've got one more question if nobody else asks anything we can answer uh
03:31:16.820depending on what time you're looking at him at.
03:31:22.180I think that he was deeply saddened and tormented by the way he saw modern society turning away from precepts that the folks should be considering about things in their lives.
03:31:43.020You know, Heidegger, Nietzsche, and Jung, and a lot of the philosophers that were exploring identity of what it means to be or to exist, and the German philosophers in particular are a special branch of that.
03:32:10.000but i think that a lot of people try to use his stuff um to kind of give themselves leeway in
03:32:18.840like almost like nothing matters they go into like absurdism and i don't think nietzsche was
03:32:25.440an absurdist i think he was quite the opposite and it was a lot of his work was proclamation to
03:32:32.040like almost as if to grab society's neck and rub it in the mess on the carpet that it's left
03:32:42.040and to me that requires moral it requires moral um you know fabric so to me i think he's greatly
03:32:53.200misunderstood i think a lot of people take him as um a license to either cut loose or let go or
03:33:01.280just trounce over other people and i really don't think that's what his main message was
03:33:12.400all righty sir well i think this is about as last of an opportunity as we have to tell everybody
03:33:18.720where are we going to be at this weekend okay so remember guys we're going to uh down in linden
03:33:26.080north carolina um we're at thor's hoff you can google it it's on google maps uh you just type
03:33:34.640in thor's off you don't have to put the thorn you can just put th it'll get you there um come on
03:33:40.240down we have friday saturday and sunday um if you're only able to make it on saturday please
03:33:46.880do you don't have to register or anything you show up there everybody will be there
03:33:51.200they'll be able to take care of you and where where we're going there's going to be an awesome
03:33:55.440auction there's gonna be lots of fun kids eggs egg hunts um storytelling classes
03:34:04.480and just having the chance to meet everyone in person yeah we've got blots and rituals every
03:34:12.640single day on friday i will be doing the welcoming of the gods and then we will have the else harrier
03:34:19.760gothi in the evening doing uh thoroughbroad and then on saturday of course i believe it's gonna
03:34:26.320be witten erickson's gonna be doing all star abroad we'll have some bull the auction as you
03:34:31.840mentioned yeah talks on ostara and all kinds of other fun stuff i wanted to answer this the white
03:34:39.760horse i also wrote in a question about adumla uh being considered a goddess since she gave sustenance
03:34:48.080to bore first off that re-emphasizes the tripartite in the beginning there was muspelheim
03:34:58.160and niflheim and when they extracted there were three things in gunungagap there was the tree
03:35:07.760there was Ymir, and there was Adumla. Now, Adumla also gave Ymir substance, or well, he drank from
03:35:19.280the melt leaking from her. So perhaps it's not she voluntarily did it. But she is the life force
03:35:29.740essence her name means without horns so she is incapable of goring or you know stabbing with
03:35:39.180her horns which is again in an agrarian society very symbolic to she is completely peaceful and
03:36:15.320is where it gets a little hairy in that sense a goddess in our in our language would be like
03:36:21.720equivalent to say ah senior because we are talking about the house is she a divine being
03:36:29.480yes is she a being of life and creation absolutely and when she shaped buri um and gave him the
03:36:40.920notion to go and leave the gap and go live in Nivelheim with some of the most ancient jotuns
03:36:47.960there. She did that with a sense of care to get him away from Ymir. But it wasn't for long. He
03:36:59.320lives amongst them and he has a son. And his son's name is Bor, the one who lifts up. And Bor
03:37:08.580returns to the gap. He sees that tree and his wife, Bessla, is pregnant. And in our faith,
03:37:16.180Bor and Bessla are Diospater and Diosmater. They're the origin heavenly father and mother.
03:37:27.280And they return to the tree. But what's there at the tree is the slumbering
03:37:33.460emir with any possibility of waking up at that point so over time it becomes apparent they're
03:37:44.160going to have to slay emir and it is the three young children born of bestla the oldenvillian
03:37:53.660babe these three you know again as gods would be if you were talking about age this is in the
03:38:01.060beginning they're young and brash and they go down and they slay emir after all of this talk
03:38:10.080about the dangers of him and the deluge happens and um it threatens to swallow everything we don't
03:38:22.060know what happens to the umla but we presume in the deluge she is lost and perhaps she her body
03:38:30.800to the west lays the landscape of what is von vonaheim but her soul never truly leaves and is
03:38:40.360i believe in exemplification as ratatosk so her energetic heart her giving heart her moving heart
03:38:52.240becomes ratatosk bor lifts heaven up he lifts his wife up bestla her name means to beset
03:39:02.880so of heaven bor and bestla make him in bjork the mountains of heaven where their children can reside
03:39:13.200and preside over the middle world so bor lifts up bestla besets and their souls rise up to the
03:39:22.080the top of Yggdrasil as an eagle and a hawk. And in the slaying of Ymir from his blood, the deluge
03:39:31.420of water, but a dark and secret thing crept out of that wound and it goes all the way down
03:39:39.960to Niflheim and takes the shape of Nidogar. And that's why Nidogar is trying to bite the root
03:39:48.520that holds Yggdrasil to stop the cycle of souls and to untether the very cosmos circulatory system.
03:39:59.700It is tethered by the first root in Nibelheim. And so he is desperately trying to rip it. Is he
03:40:07.000Ymir? No. The transference between the soul and the identity, I don't know if it's the same as
03:40:16.260humanity but i certainly believe that there is one that beget from the event another
03:40:26.020i hope that answers that that was a long answer though
03:40:30.740no it's one of my favorite stories um and your take on it uh i'd love your take on it especially
03:40:37.860anytime ronald toss is gonna get mentioned because i don't know i have a
03:40:40.820i i have an affinity yeah and that that drive um now bear in mind folks the if you're gonna go look
03:40:51.240in the lore you're not gonna see this this is actually from my personal religious observation
03:40:56.980and belief and insight to um that nothing just simply is created out of nothing and nothing
03:41:06.460simply dies and disappears but that that tripartite is formulated in the gap and all things come from
03:41:15.820that and so the only thing that survives from the original tripartite is yggdrasil which is why lord
03:41:24.140odin synthesizes himself to it because yggdrasil and and and the ones that have grown before it
03:41:34.620in same ilk he wants to know how deep their roots go so he does that but
03:41:46.460as a spirit is a giving spirit and when it's released from creation it then becomes
03:41:53.340communication when emir is released from his slumber he becomes an active destructing um
03:42:01.980violent uh serpent that's trying to destroy and when boor and bestla are released from their
03:42:10.140duty they go up and preside as watchful guardians over the heavenly realm which when their children
03:42:18.220reside ryan does not want us to go to bed he continues on uh nidhogger could be from the
03:42:28.060multi-headed son of emitter's lower parts giants turn to dragons like fafnir writes
03:42:35.660i heard besla means bark of a tree from a great tree is that not so
03:42:42.700so fafnir as a mortal is generally the way i've always seen him written as he is the son um i
03:42:53.980I forgot his name, but his brothers are Rayin, who is a human as well, that learns from dwarven smiths.
03:43:02.540Vavnir is a magician like his father, and so is Otar.
03:43:06.980Otar, of course, turns into an otter and gets slain by Loki.
03:43:12.160But as far as them being Jotans, the other thing is I am a believer that the lore in which it states,
03:43:18.480When the deluge happens, the only thing that saves the gods is the rising up, that separation of heaven from the middle world, and everything else gets, you know, gone.
03:43:34.440And it says, Bergelmer, the son of Algelmer, Algelmer is just another name for Emir, he escapes with his wife and the kin of Jotun's spring from him.
03:43:47.780So there's no mention of, in essence, the chaotic, large, gigantic beasts that come out of Ymir. When the three brothers come down and slay him, they are wiped away. A cataclysmic event.
03:44:05.060and that is when bergelmer leaves jotunheim is you know the relegation of that place
03:44:14.420and all of the kin of jotunheim come from him um whereas you know when you see uh
03:44:25.140uh need all good I believe is more of not necessary the lower part but the soul of and as he is slain
03:44:36.180it moves to an to the other realm just like with Adumla when she is lost her heart is the
03:44:46.680communication between the top and the bottom um I mean I I understand what you're saying too and
03:44:51.780um a lot of people do believe that bestla means bark um and it could be the translation is actually
03:44:59.880um arguable there's a lot of people that have been arguing about it um I've just taken the
03:45:07.680the translation as the one who besets to beset the table to lay things about and bore is to lift or
03:45:17.640bear up the weight so in my observations of both lore and belief i see these moving parts that
03:45:29.840aren't really mentioned in the lore and i think they're not mentioned in the lore because of
03:45:34.000um unique factors like meter and um formulation same reason why uh lord thor is not mentioned
03:45:44.160during the first wars of between the house and the van um there's just not any mention of him
03:45:53.020and then at the same time later on there is only light mentions but there is mentions about him
03:45:58.700having an iron rod readable and so yeah i know i've heard people say bark um and i think
03:46:09.380connections to like beach trees but i have always taken the translation as to beset as far more
03:46:18.660uh kind of again in line with if boar means to lift up or to bear then to beset kind of fills
03:46:27.220the same you know pairing motif so the killed giant son could have died and went to the lower
03:46:37.140realm like balder right well yeah so uh absolutely but i think also emir could have done the same
03:46:46.260um that the formulation of these these these beasts and we could speculate you know as these
03:46:54.500uh great children of emir are but they're they it's described they are washed away they die
03:47:01.460And Bergelmer teaches his malice towards the gods for slaying their progenitor.
03:47:11.060And that kind of is laid very clearly out.
03:47:16.660So, I mean, I don't necessarily see why it would be an unnamed son versus Ymir himself transferring.