In this episode of Victory Never Sleeps, the YFAW Folk Assembly is back with an update on the OSARA Celebration, and a video of the event! Don't miss it. Also, we are looking for any and all of you who would like to contribute to the Food Pantry, which feeds 136 families in the month of March.
00:03:00.000Hello everybody, welcome to another exciting edition of Victory Never Sleeps.
00:03:30.000Thank you very much to Witt and Brandy and our guests from last week.
00:03:41.440Svon and myself were en route to Thorshoff for our annual OSARA celebration.
00:03:52.720Got a little bit more on that here in just a second.
00:03:55.680And as far as updates and such, one of the things that, you know, I was kind of tabulating just before the broadcast tonight was our number of families fed through our food pantry.
00:04:14.040Those of you that might not know, each of our Hoffs, and we have four Hoffs now, each
00:04:19.540of our Hoffs once a month does a food pantry to help be good neighbors to our local communities
00:04:28.120where our Hoffs reside and help people out that may be a little bit extra in need sometimes.
00:04:36.360So we run the food pantry once a month at each of those locations.
00:04:41.860yeah, so we do that. Anyways, I'm sorry, Mandy was in here adjusting something on my desk and
00:04:47.680I was trying to figure out what she was doing. I apologize for the stutter stop there. Anyway,
00:04:52.780we, all together in the month of March, the Yastru Folk Assembly's food pantries fed 136 families
00:05:02.020in the communities around our Hoffs. So that's amazing. Thank you so much to all of our awesome
00:05:08.100volunteers that put the effort in to make those happen and to make that a reality it's really a
00:05:16.380nice uh nice situation hold on mandy that's not plugged in copy that all right so nick mandy says
00:05:29.380i got an echo if you could fix that on your end i'd appreciate it um that said
00:31:56.780We're having some trouble there a second ago.
00:31:58.600So I, a couple of things and it kind of got, I don't know, we moved past the initial thing I was making, but there's a couple of points I want to make.
00:32:09.260But before I do, Chris Lukat donated $20.
00:32:41.200So one of the things on this rune, one of the truths that it represents, oftentimes people conceive of certain of our runes as good or bad.
00:32:59.440And I don't think it doesn't work that way.
00:33:06.560they represent, I don't know, I guess, fundamental pieces of existence. And
00:33:16.700like, just like storms, they're neither good nor bad, they just are. And one can harness benefits
00:33:26.660from them or one can take you know take damage from them and i think that one of the
00:33:37.140one of the things with some of these runes is not just the straightforward uh understanding of them
00:33:45.780but if you master them then you have the ability to
00:33:49.300to bend them to the good, to find the opportunity that they present.
00:33:59.740Hagalaz, as a rune, certainly in the way that it gets, so okay, we've all seen ideographically
00:34:08.780the H or the double-barred H with the slanted crossbar, and I think that's the one we see
00:34:16.300the elder futhark most often but in the other systems including the arman and it's much more
00:34:23.100of a snowflake looking pattern the idea of it it's often the seed rune it contains um
00:34:30.780because all of our runes are connect are like a collection of straight lines that intersect and
00:34:36.700do different things off of one another it's seen as something that you can make lots of different
00:34:43.260runes out of it in and of itself is a is a bind rune in a lot of ways um it represents a lot of
00:34:53.420potential when there is the storm and tumult it opens up lots and lots of opportunity
00:35:03.420and this is one of the things that i look at when i ask the nornier to bless a new baby
00:35:10.540and this was uh relevant to baby naming i performed at ostara this was one of the runes
00:35:16.980that was drawn yeah yeah so when this happens you know i'm asking for a gift i don't think that
00:35:24.200they're going to just you know throw curses into the gift that i'm asking for that's not good
00:35:29.580spirited and and i i think better of our nor near than that so the challenge is to see how runes
00:35:38.360that sometimes look negative apply in different situations with with hopeful
00:35:47.980meanings or positive meanings and there's a lot of that so figuring out
00:35:52.740the runic lens and it's all situational it really depends on when you draw that
00:35:58.040if you're using runes divinationally or to shed light on things so another
00:36:08.240note on runes and the people jumping on, aha, it says songs that can't be runes.
00:36:19.340There is a lot of people out there, and this is a trend that I think we would all be wise
00:36:25.560to shy away from. Some of us in a broad sense are in more need of this advice than others.
00:36:38.240people I'm trying to think of the best way to express it because there's a lot of different
00:36:47.560ways and it's hard without citing lots of examples and taking as far afield but there's a tendency to
00:36:54.760celebrate something that you find that is unique and different so if everybody you know has one
00:37:05.120take on it you need your hot take on something that's different that shakes up everybody's
00:37:09.500understanding and that's really appealing when there's no consequence to what you do
00:37:19.000you know everybody does that like ah history's been you know done over and over and over again
00:37:24.900we all know history we all know these you know great old white men of history so i'm gonna have
00:37:29.900hot take my new commie take on history is i'm going to find you know i'm going to find these
00:37:35.580little points of incongruence and come up with a ridiculous theory because i have a shred of
00:37:42.620implication i'm going to override you know tones and tones of stuff to the contrary and i think
00:37:53.020sometimes people do that in their attempts to rediscover how our ancestors conceived
00:38:01.760of our faith in their time. Svonne and I have talked on here fundamentally, the speaking
00:38:09.920into existence of something is perhaps the fundamental magical act. Runes are much more
00:38:19.800than straight line drawings that are carved on stuff. That is an expression of a rune
00:38:27.180in the physical. There's also intonation and galder of runes that is fundamental to it,
00:38:33.740and we see that. This is, in fact, a great example of it. It's funny the lengths that
00:38:44.560people will go to. So I caution people to avoid the tendency to find different and innovative
00:38:57.500ways to be contrary instead of showing deference to folks that have spent a lot of time really
00:39:08.800started studying the deep things on this instead of finding surface, you know, surface things to
00:39:14.860say, aha, I found it. And it's really easy to do that. I don't know if that makes a lot of sense,
00:39:20.720but sometimes in the reasoning of this, it's like there's a anti-Ockham's razor proposition.
00:39:27.280Sometimes when there's something that is conventionally believed, makes all the sense
00:39:31.840in the world we reject it for the strange extreme doesn't really fit ludicrous theory because it's
00:39:42.320more fun to choose a different path than to digest age-old wisdom and i think that we do good to
00:39:50.080be cautious against that um swan with that will you move us into verse 153
00:40:01.840For an eighth I know what to all is useful to learn when hatred grows among the sons of men that I can quickly assuage.
00:40:23.240Now that's interesting because, so I just read a Bellows translation, and here's a different translation, and it is also a Bellows.
00:40:31.840Though, um, an eighth I know, that is all to the greatest good to learn.
00:40:37.180When hatred grows among heroes, sons, I soon can set it aright.
00:40:59.440But again, the sons of men versus the heroes, or among heroes, sons, I think that's very interesting. Sometimes it's translated as warriors, sons.
00:41:15.020um this rune is uh correlated to nalthies now these is the room of constraint um sometimes
00:41:24.220it's called the room of toil but oftentimes too it is the ruin of binding the room of subduance
00:41:31.500and um we kind of see this in a positive sense since you you spoke of this um this is a perfect
00:41:39.820example, oftentimes Mouthy is seen as a negative. Again, it's just a perception of. But in this
00:41:48.440case, we're talking about the subduing of emotions, the flaring of horalsome nature in the halls of
00:41:57.380warriors. And I think that's the significance of this is because the reason why hero's sons or
00:42:05.880warriors sons is because this is culturally connected with the idea that bad things that
00:42:13.480happen in the halls can spill out into the land. If people have a grievance over certain things,
00:42:19.580and they are in high station, this could cause skirmishes, wars, bloodshed. And that's why I
00:42:28.200think there's an emphasis there on heroes, sons, or the sons of warriors. And, you know, it's,
00:42:37.960again, of the greatest good, seeing that the folk must err towards, you know, maintaining
00:42:47.360peace in order to prosper is a high value. I was just, again, looking at some of the
00:42:57.020cross translation. Some of these are truly interesting, but, um, you know, this utilizing
00:43:04.860this rune, um, some people, you know, believe that the, the ability to encapsulate a runic
00:43:12.740power, um, can be done through simply song. There isn't, you know, not a symbol or a need
00:43:21.740to carve or to do these kind of elaborate um steps that there can be kind of again pulling
00:43:29.580or a manifestation of i i have seen and witnessed some strange things perhaps even weird things um
00:43:38.040from my runicure in which he kind of expounded on this and um you know
00:43:45.040did some things where i the closest thing that i could see to like leo
00:43:51.420um and which it ended up causing someone to like leave the building um and whatever reasons it may
00:43:59.400be it could have been a phone call that they had to leave or um i don't know there's time for them
00:44:05.840to go or they had an appointment at some point i've tried to logically gather as to what exactly
00:44:11.660happened but um my teacher was saying that there are ways that you can kind of again manifest the
00:44:21.420power of the runes through a long study and training and um to kind of become part of the
00:44:29.780weft and the weave of the world around you and if you are in tuned enough you can slightly affect
00:44:38.680things around you um and there was an odd uh person in this order that was kind of i don't
00:44:47.040know just acting strange and like following or we kind of got a very very strange feeling from this
00:44:52.380person and he was basically like i'm i'm gonna tell them to leave and he spoke something under
00:45:00.520his breath and he made the a symbol of the one of the runes and i couldn't quite see it
00:45:07.600And surely enough, about 10 seconds later, this person kind of stops what they're doing and immediately goes towards the front door.
00:45:36.600So in lending to this, the understanding, I think, that he was trying to express to me is that the Leo is, again, your ability to harmonize with the runes, to link yourself through meditative practice, through Galdar practice, and through becoming very, very interconnected with your understanding of the runes, that you have somewhat of an ability to affect.
00:46:06.600things around you. They're almost like a, um, a radius of effect in which you won't pull too
00:46:14.680much in other strands of fate. And that's when, you know, you know, large, the, the farther reach
00:46:23.080you have, the, the more catastrophic the movements can be, but in your, around you can begin to
00:46:30.520change. I wish I could expound on that more, but that was about the only thing, but to be able to
00:46:38.100say that I've witnessed it is true. I've witnessed it. I don't know what to make of it still, but it0.69
00:46:42.880was quite powerful. Bought us three coffees. You kids know what that means. I don't know. All I
00:46:58.440know, as it's like a $25 for VNS and 25 for the Njortsov fund. And it's much appreciated.
00:47:09.040Ronald is a consistent giver and has really done a lot of good with his donations. And we appreciate
00:47:19.680it a lot. Thank you. So there's a lot of ways, and this kind of stems off of the commentary for
00:47:26.720last uh the last spell but so you can carve runes you can galder runes
00:47:39.680other people do runic yoga where they embody the shapes of runes in order to manifest things
00:47:49.760another thing that you can do and one of the things that i love so much about
00:47:54.240our our faith and our worldview there's always many many layers one of the most basic but most
00:48:05.620effective is internalizing truths of the rooms and implementing those in a practical sense in
00:48:16.120life with things i find it very apropos that this now these is the need room it
00:48:33.640is often seen as negative because it's like desperate need or or a dire need for something
00:48:41.160oftentimes folks have theorized that the symbology of it represents the need fire which is
00:48:48.440the fire made by by friction um but i can think of nothing that bonds contentious warriors
00:48:58.520together who want to fight amongst themselves than by them rallying to a common foe
00:49:06.280um and that's the thing that has always stood out to me most in this stanza and its association with
00:49:14.640now these is by giving them a common theme thing to fight against it bonds men it bonds warriors
00:49:22.960and always has and we see that today from the playground all the way into adulthood
00:49:29.180and and war and many things shared need and shared strife brings people that you know
00:49:38.300would normally bicker amongst themselves together and unifies and i think that's a
00:49:42.640really important truth of this uh this stanza um let's let's move on to the next one
00:49:51.020so one five four a ninth i know if need there comes to shelter my ship on the flood
00:50:06.960the wind i calm upon the waves and the sea i put to sleep
00:50:19.580when we talk about the sheltering my ship on the flood um it in essence is preparation the removal
00:50:29.660of the main mast and brought down so that it doesn't catch wind or break the mast a lot of
00:50:37.120times they would pull down the main sail um and create a shelter from the sail in order to keep
00:50:46.080the decks um especially if they had to hunker down and ride through a terrible storm
00:50:51.440and so this is what is is being spoken of um you can see in other translations where the word flood
00:51:01.120is is replaced with waters um but the sheltering part is i think the the part that throws some
00:51:09.600people off um you know that the need of a shelter is what how it's it's spoken of um
00:51:20.320and also to the birka uh it's one of the nordic words that we kind of get when we
00:51:26.800speak of the word barge um is again a reference to the ship um
00:51:32.240um on on the on the floor the float is the way or the flood but it's really again like a um what
00:51:42.720would be a kenning for the ocean the sea so if you know if you need to set your shelter in the sea
00:51:48.560if you need to uh hunker down um i know a runic or i know a power i know a song that i can speak
00:51:58.000it out and that it will calm the waves and again this is kind of i had made mention of um like
00:52:06.480the runes are kind of like i i view them as a religion within a religion i think there's a
00:52:11.440again a hot take if you will that some people are trying to take in which they think
00:52:17.040because magic is not our the understanding of magic is not truly
00:52:22.080or fully clear when it comes to our ancestors usage of magic it's very scant and a lot of
00:52:30.820people in the early times of runic magic were kind of pulling from other traditions or
00:52:37.980understandings or trying to at least slightly fill in the gaps and um there's like a hot take
00:52:44.180now where it's like no no no everything you know to do with the runes is not really at all
00:52:50.120what it is because it's been influenced by so-and-so or or this uh way of thinking or
00:52:57.760and generally you'll hear the onus thrown upon like left hand path um hermetic magic
00:53:04.040and i think that a lot of that has its influence for sure but not enough to reach out to the point
00:53:13.040where it's um like something you can level an accusation on is it's when they when we speak
00:53:20.080about the the usage of um the runes for divinatory practice for carving or for bringing into
00:53:28.000manifestation within ourselves or externally you can in essence look at almost any aryan branch of
00:53:35.280either religion or magic that has an equivalency and so the uh that accusation i think has very
00:53:45.680little bearing you know again i um some people speak of um uh the idea you know blessing or
00:53:54.720hallowing or doing anything in directions um and they're saying oh you know the medics do this but
00:54:00.640But it's like the Hermetics didn't make that up.
00:54:03.540And that's also seen in lore elsewhere where, you know, Viking-esque Viking guy in the Adas holds his horn up in directions.
00:54:16.660Or we speak of the dwarves that hold the sky and they are east, you know, south, west and north.
00:54:23.900um you know there's an attempt to kind of block people or again dissolve things and i think it's
00:54:33.700ultimately to then re-set things in a new way in order to say you know yeah we came up with this
00:54:42.100so you got to be weary of a lot of that um but i think that one thing that's truly interesting
00:54:48.280about this religion within our religion about runes runic runic ideals runic philosophy runic
00:54:55.100magic um is the the concept of being able to change the world around you within the scope
00:55:05.040of your will i think this is a very powerful tenant of our faith we can see this when people
00:55:13.340talk about the king is the land they'll accept that completely the king is the land in essence
00:55:19.400his might is woven into the people and the land nobody would bat an eye but the idea again of
00:55:26.620someone being able to manifest their will their woad self if you will to a such a level that they
00:55:34.020can affect the world around them at least in a small amount again because i'm i'm a believer
00:55:39.780that you know the more you pull of the structures and struts you'll have effects elsewhere that you
00:55:44.420might not even realize um and in this case you know i think that we're we are what we are talking
00:55:53.620about is that the usage of the building blocks and the manifestations of of the universe to slightly
00:56:02.980favor things around us um and some people could say no i don't you know i don't believe that or
00:56:11.220i i think that these are symbolic songs or or what have you um or you know again i've the one
00:56:18.180argument that i heard is no these are just actually the calendar runes for the runic calendar
00:56:23.860and i'm not trying to downplay it's just that you'll find people kind of either find arguments
00:56:31.300to logically extend these away flag on the play spawn is being too nice um i've got a i've got a
00:56:38.580bad cop flex um here we go no there's a lot of people that have a lot of ideas that are just wrong
00:56:46.100um yeah these are absolutely magical spells like i said stuff's multi-layered
00:56:53.060but there are truths expressed in many ways our folk in all branches as swan said of our faith
00:57:03.400have this interplay of magic in numerous forms and it's very much a sin it's an important part
00:57:16.280of our religious practice the runes are absolutely religious and they're a gift to us
00:57:20.400It's a teaching to us by our gods. It's part of, and we'll get to this when we go through the Rikstula, but it's part of the ennoblement and the raising up of our folk.
00:57:36.840And you see the progression through time of, you know, the very simple and the lower on the scale of development folks don't need or aren't ready to utilize the runes.
00:57:52.300But as our folk became more noble and advanced in their station, they were taught by Heimdallar the mysteries of these runes and the proper use of them and how to do them.
00:58:07.840It was one of the noble arts, along with, I think, horseback riding and warfare and numerous things that he taught to Jarl and Kahn, I believe.
00:58:22.300it's it's absolutely essential and it's fine you are you exalted priest of the ice here
00:58:30.940you get to speak with authority you do not have to give way to any of the well actually let me
00:58:36.540let me push my glasses up crowd please do not feel like you need to well one of the mysteries
00:58:42.700i think in relation to this is diffusement if you place out before people multiple theories ideas
00:58:49.980you create a strata that they have to work through and that again if it becomes something
00:58:57.640i oftentimes if you find someone who's looking into into the runic studies and they settle on
00:59:03.060an idea immediately and then that's it that's not the person that's going to get far the person
00:59:08.700that's going to get far is the one that is consuming the ideas and going through that and
00:59:13.560then through the threshold so i think sometimes like when a missile gets flack when you have a
00:59:19.200missile going at something and then all of a sudden the flak comes out. The idea is to see
00:59:24.440through the flak or to at least absorb it and then continue through. So I think a lot of times
00:59:30.120what I am trying to do is lay down multiple pathways to kind of veer off those who might
00:59:39.460want to just settle on the logic. Those people don't need to know the mysteries if they're just
00:59:44.720willing to settle on it and it is out there and those that press and go deeper again flag on the
00:59:52.040play their logic is not sound you don't have to be some kind of wizard and put on your you know
00:59:58.760funny hat or your harry potter outfit in order to grasp the logic that these things exist in
01:00:08.900other places we have a tendency to to do that with stuff the whole you know the nazis did it
01:00:15.760the nazis did it on any possible thing nazis fed their babies breast milk so we can't do that
01:00:22.880so does any other mammal in the history of the world they don't separate some of these things
01:00:29.360um yes hermetics do certain things some things are commonalities that different branches of
01:00:40.760humanity all do when they're doing things that have a certain amount of crossover
01:00:46.620certain things are fundamentally Aryan but to deal with the directionality
01:00:51.400sometimes different groups of people some we like and some we don't like
01:00:57.740do the same sorts of things for the exact same sorts of purpose.
01:01:02.960And logic factors those things in as opposed to jumps on one data point
01:01:10.560and uses it, as I said earlier, to play gotcha with.
01:01:16.620While we're here and while I've got, while I stole the floor from you,
01:01:21.560um we got a couple of people who have been generous that i'd like to acknowledge
01:01:28.220uh first uh alcy miller bought us three coffees nick says that that equals
01:01:39.300five dollars per coffee and he says hail um thank you very much we really appreciate it thank you
01:01:47.420also monk blew the victory horn which i'm told is a 50 donation that's awesome thank you monk
01:01:57.060we really do appreciate it uh yeah that means a lot thank you
01:02:02.220so one of the things about this again there's a lot of deeper ways to take it but i think that
01:02:11.380we need to not neglect the simple for the complex all of them are relevant on the most basic level
01:02:20.380the rune associated with this is isa the ice room now it's a rune about actual ice but it's also a
01:02:32.840rune about uh stasis and stillness and i think it's again extremely relevant to uh to this
01:02:42.660particular stanza and you know there there's all kind of ways you can take it or or whatever and
01:02:53.080And a lot of them are right, but many of them are wrong.
01:02:57.100But the sea going to sleep or going in a place of stillness and stasis is, I mean, when water does that, it's called ice.
01:03:18.240I mean, I suppose there's a lot of other things about calmness.
01:03:23.080But the most fundamental, you know, it literally stops the water from doing water stuff.
01:32:16.760and respect our ability and our capabilities and our accomplishments.
01:32:21.060So in that sense, it's not. And also, it's funny in Christianity, it's literally built around a undead version of Jesus where people go and put their fingers in his ribs where he got stabbed with the spear and play with the holes in his wrists or his hands, depending on what version you read, where he was crucified.
01:32:48.200So playing around and reanimating dead bodies is well in keeping with archaic Christian tradition.
01:33:03.180And then I guess the follow-up question also from Finn is, do you think necromancy is something that we can actually do?
01:33:10.760in a sense of reanimating corpses you know i i hold my mind open that if you are a potent enough
01:33:19.960magician there are any number of amazing and miraculous feats you might achieve um i would
01:33:27.760put you know i think the odds of me witnessing that are extremely low
01:33:35.540but uh i hesitate to say that any of these things are completely impossible some of that's you know
01:33:45.840i feel that keeping your mind and your heart of and the possibilities is very important um
01:33:52.600in the sense of communing with the dead and getting wisdom from them i think
01:33:57.540it is it happens all of the time and is fundamental to our existence i certainly think that
01:34:05.380that in a sense of of receiving messages in your dreams or through shamanic experience or through
01:34:12.980near-death experience or through death death experiences there's people who you know due
01:34:18.180to medical situations or whatever are clinically dead for a time and then return um but yeah swan
01:34:26.820what are your thoughts on that well a couple things one the association of the rune and
01:34:33.300consideration to this translation is the room tier um in uh yeah and the arman and it is tier
01:34:42.500and one of the ways and things that i have always um
01:34:47.940taken this as that the room tier allows you through and into the essence of or identify
01:34:56.340the nature of something despite its what it may appear as so you see to the true nature and that's
01:35:04.340why i kind of lent on the idea of seeing the hammer of a person whether alive or dead seeing
01:35:12.020which they came up about um cutting through and reading them in that sense um because again
01:35:21.380it is not often seen as something in a correlation to necromancy and i think a lot of that is what
01:35:26.580we focus on but i think what is really being talked about here is the ability to see into
01:35:34.500the nature of someone or something to its truest nature that it speaks again that it tells you as
01:35:42.580it is um again uh i'm trying i was trying to think of just piggybacking on what you said
01:35:51.300well what's the quote um anybody who who uh discounts anything outside of their own experience
01:35:58.980is a sure mark of a fool those are wise words um you know i i don't discount the ability and i
01:36:09.300think that the viewing or understanding of these things is a little different than perhaps semitic0.97
01:36:15.460religions and their um concepts um when we're talking about uh you know even though the concept
01:36:28.020of it in the medieval ages and what have you necromancy the idea of of you know conjuring
01:36:36.420ghosts or conjuring spirits and speaking to them and gaining i i think this has a different sense
01:36:42.500we're talking about the physical body and so that lends me even more to the idea of being able to see
01:36:52.820through and into the history story and weird of all that is so that they tell you again i i was
01:37:01.460just looking up very quickly um the translation for a hanged man
01:37:16.020so the word the oppi oppi valva virgilna now vir has to do with wire or rope so i'm trying i was
01:37:28.900quickly trying to look into the word gill or sorry it's gill now virgil now so you know it's it's
01:37:35.940um in 157 in the old norse it says that can act at torta i know a 12th
01:37:46.500if i see in a tree opi valve virgil now and that's where i was looking for the translation as to
01:37:56.580what that might be um because again the translations get very very interesting and i i
01:38:04.100i was zeroing in i found of course via to be wire or rope and i was just about to hone in on guild
01:38:11.540gill now in order to find that um but the the the next uh svao a christ christ is to carve or to cut
01:38:20.420But, you know, if I see up in the tree and I'm, like I said, zeroing in on Virgil now,0.59
01:38:32.680but the idea of like a hanging, because right off the top of my head, I can't think of what
01:38:40.900gill now uh is um you know that if i if i write the runes um and and color them or give them
01:38:50.780a splashing of color at south ganga go me and i kind of covered that he will walk uh again or
01:38:58.420speak with me um so the key in that i think is the very gill now to give us a bit of an
01:39:07.220understanding um towards it and that's what i was looking at but i have always taken this
01:39:15.380to talk about the true nature i find the tear rune is the rune that cuts through all obfuscation
01:39:25.300or mystery or perhaps again even the situation of death or life or silence or blindness
01:39:36.660tia is the rune that allows you to see through all conditions towards the true nature of thing
01:39:42.740or the way something has happened oftentimes i think that's why people overly emphasize the
01:39:50.100usage of the tia rune in relation to like judgments or legalities but i don't think that's
01:39:58.660it's just that the need and wanting for clarity is there but outside of that there's more to it
01:40:04.500the ability to cut through um the layers or even death all right let's uh move to 158.
01:40:17.220okay um let me see here just getting to one spot okay a 13th i know if a thing
01:40:29.460full young with water i sprinkle well he shall not fall now he fares mid the host nor sink beneath
01:40:40.860the swords this is clearly a blessing for vitality and victory in battle um i think it's also a
01:40:51.480really great indication of our understanding of us spurgements i think oftentimes people will try
01:40:58.320to level the idea that we are copying christianity i think most people know that christianity copies
01:41:07.120a lot and so that it's reversed but if we're talking about a glimpse into the insular sense
01:41:16.160of it the sprinkling of water the sprinkling of an aspergement as a blessing is not christianity
01:41:27.680alone that our ancestors have a long standing tradition of sprinkling water over babies
01:41:35.040and sprinkling water over warriors um so in this sense uh the thane the warrior uh even though he
01:41:47.520is young and he says full young he's speaking of an inexperienced warrior a 13th i know that if if
01:41:55.120a inexperienced water or inexperienced uh warrior goes i will spring water and he shall not fall
01:42:01.600even though he fares mid the host again the host um the usage of the word is folk
01:42:09.120but i think this is a kenning for battle the throng of armies um uh
01:42:16.800Uh, and in the, in the, um, in the translation, you know, um, he says that, you know, Han
01:42:26.860I folk call me is that he, even though he goes amongst the people, the reference that
01:42:34.180follows it about battle and sinking beneath, um, you know, the, the, the swords going of
01:42:43.140battle is i think again so the thane going into the army or going into the the host as he says
01:42:51.760in the battle and and taking covered by the ways of battle is again a lending towards
01:43:00.060blessing by aspergment and this rune of course is the uh lagus or um
01:43:08.640or excuse me not lagus berkano berkano uh in the younger futhark it's bjarkan um and in
01:43:19.520the armanin is barn i believe i think it's just bar bar sorry i would say i think a bern as a baby
01:43:29.040i know uh but it's bar and again that this lends to this rune is often associated with protection
01:43:36.480This rune is often associated with encapsulation with, again, just the blessing of being absolved of, you know, aggression, violence, or things towards you.
01:43:56.880It seems to have the ability to assuage that almost to the point where you're not, you're not seen or you can't be targeted or you kind of, you miss or you become invisible.
01:44:11.020That power there ends up protecting you.
01:48:28.680so this in relation to the rune uh is um man or no is it love love love love okay um
01:48:45.240um yes and logos in um in or uh logger lore in the um younger futhark uh lore in
01:49:00.280in relation when we speak of this like it says here that that uh the lady the cell the telling
01:49:07.480if i must tell the the litany and the power of the speak of the gods and the elves i can and few know
01:49:15.640how to um the wisdom i think this is absolutely kind of delving into the power of uh logger in
01:49:26.760relation to the wells the the delving deep into the lore of something or knowing the history and
01:49:36.200And the reason why the mead of poetry is mead, the reason why Mimir's well is a wellspring, Earth's well is a wellspring, Verjelmer is a wellspring, is because of the depth and the scope in which the liquid is kind of symbolic to.
01:49:56.200and so in this case we're speaking of the ability or knowing or being able to recall or being able
01:50:03.520to look into and see deeply into the entirety and the lore of the gods the entirety and the
01:50:10.660lore of the alva the alva or elva or alfar or the elves um it's that tapping into the ancient
01:50:21.960and the far back and you can see this because a lot of people kind of correlate lagus in a modern
01:50:27.420sense towards the unconscious or the subconscious um the perhaps even to the folk conscious or the
01:50:37.080uh union you know um kind of shared consciousness um and i think that still stands it's the idea
01:50:46.340of being able to kind of delve back deep into that water um or go deeper into the dark waters of
01:50:53.760of um kind of again an ancestral memory an ancestral blood um the wellspring of knowledge
01:51:02.720that is is always kind of seen in relation to water and so knowing deep knowing far on
01:51:10.620the uh you know the scope and understanding or seeing deep into the horn or seeing deep into the
01:51:18.180into the waters of the well um all correlate to being able to go back and go deep into and
01:51:26.080understand the missing or the the great lore of the gods and of the elves and few people have
01:51:34.780that skill. And again, I would say that this rune is the key component to going back on those
01:51:42.220pathways. This is definitely a meditative rune. And a lot of people don't always associate it
01:51:48.840strictly with that. They have a hard time. Sometimes they'll denot it as travel, travel by
01:51:55.400water some means but i think ultimately this is the the blood the water of the self and
01:52:04.520that this rune is the rune that calls one to look back into the depths of their understanding of the
01:52:11.560gods their understanding of the elves the understanding of just our lore as it does come
01:52:16.920from and worth considering too kvasir is made of the liquid of the gods he's made from the the
01:52:26.040spittle creates kvasir and crosser is the first storyteller who holds all that lore again another
01:52:33.800liquid kind of um reference because the usage of fluid in relation to us transferring knowledge
01:52:41.560whether it's the skein of water the skein of the well skein of the wave or the the loading of the
01:52:47.240goblet or loading of the horn or loading of the bowl is always done through liquid
01:52:54.280yeah absolutely everything's fun just said i agree 110 percent i think kind of an interesting
01:53:00.600anecdote and it was advice given to someone there was a phase um back in the early days of
01:53:08.280also true where um we had a lot of people being pretendians a lot of people um and this may not
01:53:20.040make sense to our international audience but here in the united states we had a lot of people that
01:53:25.320rejected christianity and wanted to find something i don't know something more authentic
01:53:31.400the only context they initially felt to do that was to try to
01:53:41.080either full-on pretend they were native american by some you know imagined cherokee princess ancestor
01:53:51.160or try to be somehow co-opted into that by attending native american ceremonies and
01:54:01.400quite a bit of authentic native american ceremonies are folkish they are just for
01:54:08.600folks of their tribe or certainly of their their nation people and you know the advice given to
01:54:15.720this guy when he wanted you know he wanted to go for the the showy tourist part but then he wanted
01:54:20.760to say for the serious religious part and you know the one of the one of the the native american
01:54:29.400gentleman leading things you know he told him no you must drink from your own will and uh
01:54:37.240i think that was sound advice and it was interesting that it came with that same imagery
02:09:56.580the axis as it were up and down isn't necessarily good or bad as long as it's right ordered but um
02:10:11.600and this may be i don't know i hope this makes sense the way that i'm putting it
02:10:18.680the idea of this iconographically is with the idea of death and reaching down
02:10:28.320whereas the other one is the life rune and leech and reaching upwards towards the divine
02:10:35.220or towards the astral towards the higher self the higher consciousness
02:10:43.140this rune i i don't think this rune is primarily about love i think this room is primarily about
02:10:51.140sex that being said the idea of delving down into the chthonic or the more uh
02:11:01.460primal centers makes sense. The idea of reaching down into the roots, if you follow chakras and
02:11:16.060things that way, the lower cauldrons is where that sexual reproductive energy comes from and
02:11:25.580is is housed and i also think you know when you look at just and this may be a coincidence but i
02:11:33.020it comes to mind is that death um was archaically often kind of a kinning for
02:11:42.460um orgasmic release and i think that's
02:11:48.860i think that's relevant to to this rune as it relates to this passage certainly
02:11:55.580I was just double-checking some things. One interesting thing I just realized was the
02:12:11.820elk sedge or the algae in the Anglo-Saxon and Elder Futhark is, of course, with the
02:12:18.840z ending which was very prominent in um you know the early foundations of germanic and that this
02:12:25.720one even though it's ir the r was the emphasis so this is an ending rune so like uh you know um
02:12:33.320if it was like heimir this rune would be used to emphasize the r and not the
02:12:38.920um in old norse or in um but i was just i was attempting to find that correlation
02:12:49.540um but it eludes me perhaps for good reason i did um
02:12:56.720this uh another interesting point of this verse
02:13:01.500feet army is white armed it's linked it's white an arm it's clear as day feet army white armed
02:13:14.740woman i think it's we've talked about that before about the beauty standards that were placed upon
02:13:20.520um uh you know men and women in our elder times and what you know was seen as attractive and one
02:13:28.600of this was the white woman the gleaming it's even mentioned in Frey's story to Gerda that her0.81
02:13:36.000her arms shine bright and this is again the sulliness of a you know
02:13:42.780the the darkness of a of a a person who's out in the sun all the time versus someone who has this
02:13:54.120fair and soft and creamy and was seen as um you know just a an absolute beauty trait that our
02:14:02.240ancestors um throw out quite often so um i find that very very interesting and and pretty pretty
02:14:13.180cool um again i would like to go more into thinking about this as far as the focus of um
02:14:22.520an attainment of or converting someone's focus making yourself the target if you will and thus
02:14:30.000changing all our thoughts to you um in 162
02:14:35.220we have a mentioning back to lord fafmir so this is where it kind of it's funny because it's not
02:14:44.840the end and it's not like a capstone on the other side or um but it kind of slaps you back into
02:14:51.780the overall mode of what's going on uh 162 is a 17th i know
02:14:59.880so that seldom shall go a maiden young for me long these songs thou shalt load fafnir
02:15:10.160seek in vain to sing yet good it were if thou might mightest get them well if thou wouldst learn
02:15:19.640them help if thou hast them so this is kind of an interesting one because
02:15:30.520it's not quite stating the power it's stating the desire or understanding of the power
02:15:40.320it's just it's stating the the usage of the power but it's not quite stating the power and i've
02:15:47.700always found that to be frustrating um you know a seventeenth i know that um
02:15:54.820seldom shall go a maiden young for me long these songs thou shalt load fafner and then it speaks
02:16:02.020again so it's it and the translations in old norse don't quite help um
02:16:12.180Um, and I've always taken this, this is in relation to, um, the, uh, eh rune.
02:16:23.060So the eh rune, uh, the placement of this, the eh rune in Armanen is the same as the
02:16:31.240Our rune in the younger Futhark, the kind of a reverse or mirrored Nauthys, though there are also the one-legged symbol that's used in the Armanin.
02:16:50.380um but looking at this rune this is because it kind of conflicts with others when we start to
02:16:58.880look at say the younger futhark um and we look at the the um the rune hour again it has reference to
02:17:08.000um the year and planting um if you look at the runic calendar uh runes the 17th rune is
02:17:19.540the lagos and our and it is called orla or our law the the water of the year or water of the dawn
02:17:28.180whichever way you might look at it but it's interesting that both the runic calendar and the um
02:17:36.100arman and and the younger futhark have correlations in these um these runes even though we're now
02:17:42.980past the 16 mark on the younger futhark um it doesn't speak of the the power itself other than
02:17:53.700um you know of a young maiden and i was looking at um
02:18:01.620you know the some of the notes that people had placed on this uh long these songs thou
02:18:07.460Thou shalt Lodfofner seek in vain to sing, yet good it were if thou mightiest get them.
02:18:15.300Oh, people are speaking of that the lines are lost.
02:18:37.460she hardly will leave me for another man's love
02:18:56.100in this lore lord fafner be unversed forever or yi thy will wear it and with wisdom
02:19:07.260thine tis helpful if heated tis needful if known and this is um let me see real quick this
02:19:14.700translation is hollander so hollander places in the lines but bellows and thorpe have the lines
02:19:24.380removed and i just wanted to see briefly the um the cliff notes on one of these that i was looking at
02:19:34.460um some editors have combined these two lines with stanza 163 others have assumed that the gap
02:19:42.220follows the half line making it so that from me the end of the stanza
02:19:51.260and again interpolation this stanza is almost certainly an interpolation and seems to have
02:19:56.460been introduced after the list of charms and that low of load fafner's mall were combined
02:20:04.460To make the single poem, and that, in essence, was added to encapsulate all of them, for there is no other apparent excuse for the reference to Lodfafnir at this point during the poem.
02:20:20.240So, I find that, let me see, really interesting.
02:20:33.920So, if we're looking at this, I think the biggest point to understand is if they're talking about interpolation,
02:20:44.300I mean, it was written, but it seems to have been, again, brought in to encapsulate and connect the poems.
02:20:52.620And I wonder if the usage of the part where it says,
02:21:00.540Long these songs thou shalt lodfafner seek in vain to sing, yet good it were.
02:21:07.360I wonder if the usage of the word lioda, the song, is the reason why it was brought down here.
02:21:15.080But then if we add the missing marks of what they are.
02:21:26.820Let me see, I'm trying to scan everything that I'm going through here.
02:21:33.860Then we speak of, let me, I'm trying to find the source of the 17th.
02:21:37.680know if a slender maid's love i have and hold to her thus i sing to her and that she hardly
02:21:42.800will leave me for another man's love this again correlates to the rune in the armanin
02:57:29.540And when one would use an inflectionally weak form,
02:57:34.420again these are words that are beyond my beyond my current understanding but i'm working on them
02:57:39.860and that's what it says to any of you who are are skilled in linguistics well and that's one of the
02:57:47.940things that really um it's just right outside of my grasp i i understand nominative genitive
02:57:54.660dative um and accusative or you know possession possession basically because you are in iceland
02:58:02.340But then when we get into like, you know, the feminine and like feminine usage in relation to why it's being used that way is always something I, you know, end up kind of getting lost on.
02:58:19.600And I'm still working through that, too.
02:58:21.660So anybody that's, you know, thinking that I'm some sort of linguistic wizard is not correct.
02:58:29.840well sort of but you are you you your native tongue is eastland school so uh
02:58:39.200that that puts you that puts you ahead of a great many of us who who you know english just doesn't
02:58:46.260have those pieces to it um but yeah that's linguistics are fascinating and it's something
02:58:53.300that that i'm absolutely working on so i think we're all at different points in our in our study
02:59:00.260on some of these things um so thank you guys i didn't realize at the start was going to be a
02:59:06.900seven-part episode glad that it was i'm glad we took our time on it i am very satisfied with it
02:59:12.660but i do know it was long and uh and i appreciate it um got a few questions i'm going to go back
02:59:21.300over now that we've you know come to the end of our uh our how them all study um
02:59:45.940i'll make sure i don't miss one here i'm sorry i'm reading back over a whole string of text that
02:59:51.140nick and i had here we go michael from jordshoff likes to put his questions up front so he can
02:59:57.220hear them the following day which is kind of cool and he knows they're going to be at the tail end
03:00:02.100um he asks could you both give us your opinions on meditation and how to best use it for one's own
03:00:10.820benefit swan would you like to would you like to talk on this yeah i i mean i think meditation as a
03:00:25.480word is just interesting because of its placement within our our usage of the word today but i
03:00:33.880absolutely believe that it was part of our and our ancestors um whether you know we think of it as
03:00:43.560we could use the word contemplation um sometimes it's kind of angled towards like sitting
03:00:51.800out a lot of people will argue that perhaps that isn't correct because that's about
03:00:57.560why you're sitting out and where you're sitting out but
03:01:03.880I, and I, I've thought about like translations, like the idea of maybe saying like, um, like out of the mind, but I don't know if that would be incorrect, but it's, it's stepping out of one's mind is interesting to me.
03:01:24.940And that's the way I've always kind of looked at it is your mind is racing.
03:01:28.820You step out of your mind to kind of tend it like a garden.
03:01:33.880third of yourself um or or at least calm it down and place yourself in such a point of focus
03:01:42.100um but again that's you know the purposing purposing of meditation some people think of
03:01:49.680it as like recalling memories some people think about it as again tending your mind focusing on
03:01:55.540the moment some people think about it as integrating or synthesizing with particular
03:02:00.700information a room or a verse or something calm their mind of everything and then they totally
03:02:07.920absorb into one ideal does all of this have purpose and connection in our faith 100 i 100
03:02:17.320believe it it's just that the context of which it can be applied or said is up to debate but
03:02:24.800the usage of the word meditation um even in modern sense still holds it has application
03:02:32.080and we do it whether it's you know steadying ourselves whether it's again separating from
03:02:39.560from the mundane um having that moment of silence before going through that threshold
03:02:45.720there's a lot of times in which the calming the stilling and the placement of the mind
03:02:51.000So like, again, I don't want to say or decree it, but being out of the mind doesn't necessarily have the same meaning as being out of your mind, like you've lost control.
03:03:03.320It's again, more like stepping out of your mind and tending to it in a sense of solemn silence and meaningfulness of the moment, whether it's again, focusing on breath.
03:03:21.000And I mean, you, people, like we talked about this earlier, you know, people could say one thing or another, oh, you know, you're pulling from these traditions and that traditions, but we know that on this sacred, we know that it was given to us by Lord Ovin, and on being that, that breath, the usage of, say, breath technique or breath practices, perhaps have been cultivated in other traditions, whether it is Vedic or, or what have you.
03:03:50.000but creating our own and conceptualizing the idea of what meditation breathing and being
03:04:00.040intending to one's mind stepping out of one's mind intending it could look like for our ancestors
03:04:05.880i mean not our ancestors our descendants um what kind of traditions does ausatru have on its
03:04:14.140table in front of it that will eventually become these kind of long-standing traditions
03:04:22.060that perhaps have already been established by some older forms, but also too influenced by
03:04:28.960other things. We can look at those things and take inspiration from them and compare them and
03:04:35.120kind of use them to shape perhaps the water in the clay, if you will. But our job now is to
03:04:42.880build those traditions of what that might mean and i don't think we should shy away from them um
03:04:48.780it's just what what it could look like or whether it would involve mantra or rim or song um and
03:04:59.040there was discussion about this weekend uh is there an ability for uh mantra and meditation
03:05:04.880to take form in an austral sense that doesn't mimic one for one the traditions of like the
03:05:12.600vedic or perhaps persian arians um but instead is its own life and its own tradition built up
03:05:23.000and you get a lot of people that are like well our ancestors didn't do that it's like no no we're
03:05:27.220talking about we've got a lot of stuff but we're going to focus it down into a way and then it's
03:05:33.400going to grow from us to where our descendants will have it and it will be then it's you know
03:05:40.220full intended purpose or akin to the traditions that perhaps are unbroken um in other branches
03:05:46.940yeah it has absolute value um and i'm sorry that that was the nature of the question right was
03:05:54.080is there value yeah basically what you can use it for and how it works and
03:06:00.340a little bit that way. And so I would say that your last statement about the people who want
03:06:10.020to be critical and endlessly, there's a thing where you're like, well, this isn't the authentic
03:06:19.260way that our ancestors used to practice, so we can't use it. Well, cool. Do you know the
03:06:25.240authentic way that our ancestors used to do their meditation techniques oh well no you don't well
03:06:33.020cool so what should we do just stand around and not do anything and whether people want to admit
03:06:39.620it that is the conclusion they don't decide to not do anything they don't decide anything at all
03:06:46.800they just get mired in inaction um that's a time that they could use meditation
03:06:54.300Instead of sitting around thinking about all of the nonsense gnawing at their brain about scholastics and all this stuff, just sitting down and doing and letting go and engaging in the process is valuable.
03:07:17.060um one thing that i think is interesting from our lore and i've seen many people liken this
03:07:28.320to meditation in its expression is lord odin sitting on athlete's golf and letting
03:07:37.840human and munan fly free and he lets them fly through the worlds and they come back and report
03:07:45.420to him at night literally thought and memory he does an in essence a form of freeing his mind
03:07:54.460and then recollecting it and reintegrating at a period and i think there's definitely something
03:08:01.880to that um i and i this is kind of if i understand correctly this is an evolution
03:08:10.040of a conversation that I saw in our men's group earlier as well about the benefits of
03:08:18.880esoteric stuff versus direct acting in the world. And I think very much, and we can talk about that
03:08:28.600endlessly. That is hours and hours and hours of a subject to parse out all of the details on,
03:08:34.580But fundamentally, meditation, magic, those kind of esoterics are icing and action in the world.
03:08:54.560Icing enhances a cake, but it doesn't make the cake.
03:08:59.580You can have cake and no icing and it's still really good.
03:09:01.860if you have icing and no cake that's gross um and that's one of the things
03:09:09.040trouble is and you'll even read this in esoteric texts
03:09:16.720when you retreat from the world into your own little internal esoteric thing it's very very
03:09:26.060easy for you to get lost and untethered from reality there's not a lot objectively to judge
03:09:34.200your yourself by and the line between authentic esoteric experience in the land of make-believe
03:09:44.480can be paper thin and very often people wind up on the other side of it
03:09:49.580um that's where you see the phenomenon of the basement wizards
03:09:56.860meditation should enhance your ability to live life and do deeds and accomplish things
03:10:03.980there's a lot of ways to do it i have trouble blocking out all of the nagging
03:10:10.220thoughts and things that would come into my head during a meditation so i use galder as mantra
03:10:18.220when i do it to get to that space where where meditation is very worthwhile
03:10:27.660in certain ways um i would be lying if i say i do that stuff all the time i try to
03:10:37.020fully engage myself in in action and in doing because that soothes things that are nagging
03:10:46.780and i think that accomplishes quite a bit but there's a place as as a a seasoning or as
03:10:53.820something that adds to a well-lived life full of deeds but the one can't take the place for the
03:11:01.580other uh in terms of meditation and esoterics can't take the place of of action and of doing
03:11:07.900and of accomplishing um and and we all know that to be true you know if you stand on one
03:11:16.140end of the football field and start casting spells at me and i stand on the other end of
03:11:20.860the football field and start charging at you um i will i will deliver a beat down way faster than
03:11:29.340you will cast magic missile at me um and and i say that anyone who listens to this program knows
03:11:39.020that i talk about magic on here often and it's not that i don't think that it has value but
03:11:44.300all of the value is coupled with action to enhance action um there's a whole lot of
03:11:52.220basement wizards that claim a lot of efficacy that live in mom's basement that are you know
03:12:00.54050 year old virgins and they have nothing to show for themselves but in their own mind they are you
03:12:07.980know gandalf or something and and that's that's unfortunate and it's a tragic waste of of potential
03:12:17.500and i think that's one of the most tragic things of all is wasted potential um
03:12:25.260also from michael from jordshoff we have a question is the bell at thorsoff functional
03:12:33.420and if so is it used to call the folk to worship absolutely is functional and i usually use it i
03:12:39.740did not use it this last weekend and i thought about it a little bit after the fact i'm not
03:12:44.860sure if folks there use it frequently it's fun do you guys use that bell often yes we ring it
03:12:52.140nine times um generally during the procession uh we did use it this this weekend but you might not
03:12:59.500have heard it but when the um the the right before the wedding when there was that five minutes to
03:13:05.660kind of press and all that stuff and then i i actually used the bell to kind of call the folks
03:13:11.980back in um um in relation to um uh bronze age worship uh especially with the waning gods or the
03:13:29.020vanir gods um uh and then to post christianity a lot of the the idea of they would always say like
03:13:39.420church bells in iceland you know ups the land spirits but i think there was already a long
03:13:47.260connection of the idea that the bells activate or kind of draw attention to the land spirits
03:13:53.180or the alvar or the hoodl folk as they later became known um and again you know uh adam of
03:14:00.460bremen noted that the priests of frey had bells on their belts and he is the lord of the alvar or
03:14:08.860the elves um so there's a lot of kind of connections and i've always began most of my
03:14:15.100bloats with a ringing of the bells and a speaking or singing a prayer and a galder with a spell at
03:14:21.980the end to the land spirits letting them know that they're welcome if they're if they're well
03:14:27.160if they are willful or joyful but if they're woeful then they have to go away um and uh
03:14:35.240it's done in a polite sense but a strong sense that yes we make this place um our own and um
03:14:43.560and uh you know it it would do you well to know that we are calling the gods and uh if you have
03:14:51.380ill intent, you should leave because it will not be good for you. So that, um, that ringing of the
03:14:58.920bells is, uh, is important. And I, I've always kind of had it in my, uh, devotion to the gods.
03:15:07.460Um, and I think it does go back to, you know, the usage of bronze and, um, the uses of brass
03:15:13.900and, um, the sacredness of sound. And so we use it and it's kind of a combination of things.
03:15:20.520again it's a larger version of the small bell being rung it's also a point to call the folk as
03:15:26.960they process from one building to the other and in essence they're leaving from the the mundane
03:15:32.940threshold and entering the sacred threshold and that's symbolic entirely i mean because we do have
03:15:39.960after ceremonies and after bloat you know the the vey is open for people to sit and talk and
03:15:45.880children to run around and play and all of that but it becomes a different thing when the bell is
03:15:51.340rung and the procession starts and the prayer to the lambertier or the prayer to the um you know
03:15:58.060the smart alvar and doc alvar is spoken that that's when it becomes serious well and it's also
03:16:09.960really cool to ring a you know 150 year old church bell yeah um it's neat it's this old antique bell
03:16:18.920in this functional bell tower and those are you know more and more rare to have it's kind of a
03:16:25.800special thing about the antiquity of the building so that's that's really kind of a cool extra that
03:16:31.320came with it um just to kind of clear something up because i think it's important that i see over in
03:16:37.480the chat room i know the comment was in jest but um a spell is basically a prayer so good luck
03:16:45.320finding a god that will cast fireball for you so i want to make a slight difference in that um
03:16:55.080and to continue to uh nerd out on some stuff
03:16:58.920if you look at spells just like in nerdy stuff there's wizard spells and there's
03:17:09.880cleric spells and they work different so there is invoking magical things by asking of the gods and
03:17:20.520and beseeching them to help you with things that's one that's one thing that is valuable
03:17:29.320and that very much is prayer but there's also the wizard or the vitki um harnessing his own will
03:17:40.760through his understanding of of the other of the metaphysic to implement his will into the world
03:17:49.720one can do one of those or the other but
03:17:57.080but it's uh yeah it's a functionality so i wanted to to mention that a little bit you know all of
03:18:04.600these these spells that are taught in in the poem are for you to make use of as opposed to to ask
03:18:11.720the all-father to do these things for you it's absolutely appropriate to pray
03:18:19.040and invoke the gods to ask their help with things it's also valuable to try to
03:18:26.220harness your own spiritual efficacy to affect things both are both are good
03:18:33.440things and valid things to do. So the next thing we got is, what does the AFA think about pagan
03:18:46.360gods of the Greeks, such as Zeus, Heracles, or Poseidon? The AFA believes that the different
03:18:58.940gods in different Arian pantheons are all reflections of the same Arian divinity. I say
03:19:09.900all. There's obviously things that developed over time or perhaps were borrowed from neighboring
03:19:17.400things, but at its basic level in the major gods are different reflections of the Aesir as the
03:19:28.140Aesir were known to our most ancient ancestors. And as our folk moved through time and through
03:19:37.000location, they developed very distinct relationships and understandings of the Aesir in a way that
03:19:45.920may seem unfamiliar to those of us whose ancestors developed those relationships in different ways.
03:19:56.960um it's important to realize that linguistically
03:20:03.640there's a bit of logic to it we're unaware of any point in time where
03:20:13.800you know the the gods you know the the isir march down the rainbow bridge and
03:20:22.740I said, you know, hi guys, my name is Oden. My name is, you know, Heimdall. My name is, these are names that our folk attributed to or placed upon their gods because that is the best way they came to know them or came to describe them or that's what those gods meant to them.
03:20:49.840And it's important to look at it in that context. It's also really interesting that linguistically the names for different gods and different Aryan pantheons are often very similar, if not, you know, derivative from the same roots, which is really interesting.
03:21:07.460now fleshing out completely where one you know trying to go one for one of the icer as we know
03:21:18.360them with the gods of different branches of aryan spirituality there are some that are very obvious
03:21:26.420the other there's a lot of it's very difficult to parse out what goes where and it's not an exact
03:21:31.180science that way. But those other faiths and traditions have not have not survived, are not
03:21:41.320thriving, are not viable and functioning right now, certainly not in the United States and most
03:21:48.840of the West. What is functioning and what we do know is beneficial and is a boon to us is
03:21:59.940worshiping and interacting with the icr under under the norse conception the norse stories
03:22:07.060the norse linguistics that is how they have manifested to us and the uh religion of our
03:22:16.900of our folk has has been reforged that's how that has worked so it's under those terms that we move
03:22:24.260forward and that's successful that has been given the approval of the icr with you know their blessings
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