Asatru Folk Assembly - 3⧸4⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 191 - Prose Edda： Gylfaginning, Part 4

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00:03:00.000 Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

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00:03:19.280 Tonight, we are once again going back to our study of the Gilfoginning, and pretty excited

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00:06:00.140 Svon is – there he is.

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00:06:04.400 So, Svon – oh, and I should say this.

00:06:07.140 We are going through the VelocePow.org version.

00:06:13.000 You're welcome to follow along in whatever version you like,

00:06:15.440 but that's the one we're going to be reading from if you want to get to that.

00:06:18.100 And Svahn, where did we leave off last time you were with us?

00:06:22.400 So we are currently going down the list of the AUS, and we had established to everyone that the list is also the same list as the temples, as they are being attained.

00:06:38.200 And so for anyone that's wondering, oh, well, what temples are next?

00:06:42.940 It's the list in the gilvaginning.

00:06:45.100 um there is a little side loop we will step into with holy frey freya um or fruia depending on

00:06:54.520 certain people's opinions um but yes we're going uh down the list and then we will cover the two

00:07:02.680 um major polaric our senior or goddesses our senior and um that will be

00:07:14.020 uh you know deep lore or at least i think for a lot of folks and expounding on the true log mal

00:07:23.180 and how people can uh see and orientate themselves to the gods to the goddesses i think it's really

00:07:34.880 really important but bear in mind you can go to uh runestone.org and there is the true log mal

00:07:42.420 which is a very condensed version to make sure that you get everything in order, but it only scratches the surface.

00:07:53.140 And I hope tonight that I can give an idea of how the Gothar and the theological placement and where we discuss the God and try to build our relationship on behalf of the folk can go very, very deep.

00:08:14.080 um and i i just had some kind of interesting talking points that i wanted to bring up and

00:08:20.880 and that have been kind of circulating amongst the gofar so

00:08:25.380 uh we oh to answer the question though we um i was going to start up on of nether and skadi

00:08:40.700 um so section 23 um and i believe this is uh the reason too is i wanted to do a little rehash

00:08:57.020 we covered this last episode but i wanted to just come back a little bit so that way we could kind

00:09:05.100 of expound on more things. So I don't know if you, did you want me to jump right in?

00:09:15.840 Yeah, if you would, let's go ahead and get started.

00:09:19.320 And Darren, in the chat, the questions that are asked and the questions that are brought

00:09:26.480 in through email we will stop periodically to answer them and uh so you know be patient uh

00:09:37.200 stick around and you know talk to everybody in the chat about the the the questions or any other

00:09:44.960 things that aren't kind of being covered but also just bear in mind this is the core of our faith

00:09:52.720 And the relationships with the gods, I think, is one of the biggest hurdles that a lot of our members have, especially if they're coming from a strictly monotheistic worldview.

00:10:09.000 And so I think this would be very helpful for a lot of people to start building relationships with the gods, with the Aesir.

00:10:16.580 So, again, King Gilvi is in disguise as Gangliri, and he is the wide but weary traveler who comes in to trick the gods into giving up all their information without knowing his stature.

00:10:42.640 And they are speaking about the Aesir, which is the plural for Aus and Ausenir, god and goddess.

00:10:54.020 And the Aesir, he's going through the list and he's hinting towards poems.

00:11:00.560 So there will be little interjections where we will hear poems mentioned to reemphasize the poem.

00:11:09.060 So 23, he speaks of Njordr and Skadi, and I just had the blessing of being down at Njordr's

00:11:22.740 off. So the third among the Aesir is he that is called Njardar. He dwells in heaven in the abode 0.55

00:11:36.160 called Novatun. He rules the course of the wind and stills the sea and fire. That's an interesting

00:11:44.700 that those two dichotomy as well. On him shall men call for voyages and for hunting. He is so

00:11:54.320 prosperous and abounding in wealth that he may give them plenty of lands or of gear, and him

00:12:01.720 shall men invoke for such things. Nyodr is not of the race of the Aesir. He was reared in the land 0.56

00:12:11.400 of the vanir and the vanir delivered him as a hostage to the gods and took for hostage in

00:12:18.840 exchange him with that that men i think that's a typo called uh he became uh an atonement between

00:12:33.480 the gods and the Vanir, Njordr has two wives, and again, the way it's written, he doesn't have to,

00:12:41.780 he has a wife, called Skadi, the daughter of Fyazi the giant. Skadi would fain dwell in the 0.86

00:12:52.740 abode, which her father had had, which is on certain mountains in a place called Thrymheimr,

00:13:00.240 but Njörðr would be near the sea.

00:13:05.820 They made a compact on these terms.

00:13:09.780 They should be nine nights in three Heimer

00:13:12.980 but the second nine nights in Nohatun.

00:13:17.540 But when Njörðr came down from the mountains back to Nohatun,

00:13:23.640 he sang this song.

00:13:27.080 Loathe were they the hills to me.

00:13:29.480 I was not long in them. Nights, only nine. To me, the wailing of the wolves seemed ill after the songs of swans.

00:13:40.960 Then Skadi sang in retort, sleep could I never on the seabeds. For the wailing of the waterfowl, he wakens me.

00:13:50.540 Who comes from the deep, the sea knew every morn. 0.92

00:13:53.680 Then Skadi went up to the mountains and dwelt in Threemheimr, and she goes for more part on snowshoes and with a bow and arrow, and she shoots the beasts, and she is called the snowshoe goddess, or the lady of the snowshoes. 0.79

00:14:11.140 And so it is said, Threemheimers, it is called, where Thiazi dwelt, he the hideous giant, but now Skavi abides, pure bride of the gods in her father's ancient freehold.

00:14:28.220 And I was listening to the VNS last week, and there was a great point about divinity making connections and divinity having offspring, and the way that we associate divinity to have offspring is based on what we understand, which is ourselves.

00:14:54.480 But I think it is interesting to consider. And this would be very much like the theorization of say, if you're reading a book by Davidson, and there's theorizations in these books by scholars, but consider that the theorizations that come from us are coming from people that believe

00:15:22.660 and have a relationship with the gods

00:15:25.480 that's very different than a scholar. 0.55

00:15:28.340 The dominion change of Theazi to Skadi

00:15:32.480 and the idea of the mountains,

00:15:36.280 what the mountains represented to our ancestors,

00:15:39.140 the difference between skis and snowshoes,

00:15:42.380 I think is an interesting point as well.

00:15:45.760 You know, our ancestors generally used snowshoes

00:15:48.720 on long treks, flat spaces.

00:15:51.840 They did hunt, but the snowshoe was for these kind of high climbs.

00:15:59.980 And so the idea that a spirit, a Jotun, which again, anybody that hears that word should think ancient being, is taken out by the gods. 0.91

00:16:16.000 Again, this is them adjudicating their order on the world. 0.93

00:16:21.380 And they don't replace. She attempts to gain revenge, but is then brought into the fold with the gods through nonviolent means.

00:16:37.740 So there is this kinship that's built immediately, and she now has dominion over that place.

00:16:50.500 And so the idea, like oftentimes, what I'll do is say at Njordtsov, if you look behind Skadi, you'll see a glacier.

00:17:03.940 And I believe in my interpretations of this that Skadi is of the mountain, but that her relationship with Lord Njordtsov is beyond simply a marriage.

00:17:15.200 But that this is a water cycle truth that the gods have given to us, and maybe perhaps our ancestors didn't fully understand it in, say, a scientific sense, but could clearly understand it by observation that rivers beget to the ocean, through the glacier, and so we have the mountain coming down to the water.

00:17:40.480 And then there is the return. The water evaporates and goes back up. So that's an interesting point, too. But also the danger and what the mountains represented, avalanches, snow drifts.

00:18:00.260 And so it is good for our folk to, in certain situations, reach out to even the Austvenir, but it also says she is a cold of, she's cold of heart. 0.91

00:18:15.480 So, you know, the benevolence is but so far.

00:18:21.000 But I think it's very interesting that it's, again, built on relationship.

00:18:26.520 And so the snowshoe represents the incline. It represents the mountainous terrain. And so it kind of shows dominion again, where Skadi's dominion is, as opposed to Ullr's dominion.

00:18:45.020 And Lord Ullr is called the ski god, but he is also called the god of self-defense, the god of dueling, and the god of the hunt.

00:18:55.820 And a lot of people try to connect the two, I think, improperly, because they're not considering even down to the skis and the snowshoes, how different that would mean.

00:19:11.660 if you were saying you were going to go up into the mountains and take your skis, people would

00:19:15.920 look at you like, you know, you have something strange growing out of your forehead. And so

00:19:23.000 I think that these little nuances are very important for the Gothar to discuss and to

00:19:30.540 teach the folk to give these considerations. Of course, for those who might not know,

00:19:39.880 skavi means to scathe or to strike. And that is another reason why I lend to the glacial. 0.98

00:19:50.840 And I have a tendency to formulate the divine into four aspects. There's story, there is

00:19:58.680 environmental or material um there is inner spiritual and then outer cosmic or

00:20:09.480 physics based maybe even um where it gets very very abstract um and it is

00:20:17.880 really dependent on kind of our knowledge of things um so as we go bear that in mind

00:20:25.480 because i'll be covering those four over and over and over again um so 24 now we bring ourselves to

00:20:37.140 uh the offspring of lord nyarder and before we start it's worth noting there there is a twin

00:20:47.040 mechanism distinct in our faith and i would argue many aryan branches where there is a twinning of

00:20:59.660 the water and the land um and we see it continue on in the vanic or what we i've titled like the

00:21:10.220 the natural law gods versus the cosmic order gods um the natural law gods are built of the earth

00:21:20.860 they are in the middle world they are the first gods that human the folk have um interacted with

00:21:30.540 uh with great um amount and we see this twinning um another thing that's

00:21:40.060 really interesting for for people that are into this and i won't dally too long because i know

00:21:44.940 some people who aren't into it are just like okay son but um the got the gutanish or gothic

00:21:53.660 god of the rivers is mentioned his name is don was or don boss d-o-n-w-a-s and that is the masculine

00:22:04.620 of the danu and for the longest time as we look at like say irish stories and meta narratives

00:22:13.500 we have only seen and and prospected the feminine of the danu and here we have

00:22:21.580 the masculine as well so i believe that is substantial to a twinning that a lot of people

00:22:28.060 don't consider. But the twinning continues. Njordr has, he begets twins. And again, they are deeply

00:22:45.160 connected to natural law.

00:22:50.140 Nyörðr in Novatun begot afterward two children.

00:22:56.800 The son was called Freyr, and the daughter Freyja.

00:23:03.920 And linguistically, some people have proposed that the E-Y is a Ø sound, like früja, but

00:23:14.180 we're just going to go with Frey and Freyav. They were fair of face and mighty. Freyr is the most

00:23:23.300 renowned of the Aesir because they're connected now. There's no separation. He rules over the

00:23:30.960 rain and the shining of the sun and therewithal the fruit of the earth. It is good to call upon

00:23:37.080 him for fruitful seasons and peace. He governs also the prosperity of men. And this is why in

00:23:45.080 Iceland, there is a quote in the sagas where they are hailed together, Mjörðr, his father, and Frér,

00:23:57.120 which shows theological consistency, where they are honored and prayed to for

00:24:05.120 good fields, lots of animals, and good prosperity.

00:24:16.000 But on the other side, we see Freyja is the most renowned of the goddesses she has in heaven,

00:24:25.840 the dwelling called Volkvanger, or the field of the folk. And wheresoever she rides to strife,

00:24:34.620 She has one half of the kill, and Odin the other half, as it is said here in the poems.

00:24:43.200 Volkvanger, it is called where Freyja rules.

00:24:47.160 Degrees of seats in the halls.

00:24:50.920 Half the kill she keepeth each day, and half Odin has.

00:24:57.220 Her hall is called Sesrumnir, seating room.

00:25:02.260 And it is great and fair. And when she goes forth, she drives her cats and sits in a chariot. She is most comfortable to men's prayers. And from her comes the name of honor through, by which noble women are called. Songs of love are well-pleasing to her. It is good to call on her for furtherance in love.

00:25:28.720 um one of the big things is that this is duly noted as a side note she is kind of downplayed

00:25:38.700 later on in the list of the out senior because i think she has the the focus is here um but it was

00:25:48.120 to emphasize the twinning of the two and where we have uh holy frere is of prosperity especially of

00:26:00.600 the earth of the harvest of the animals we move into freya as partially i would say a harvesting

00:26:10.320 of the earth through precious metals. But I think the biggest point is beauty. And I think that

00:26:18.480 beauty, and to simply say a goddess of beauty, is underwhelming because so many philosophers 1.00

00:26:28.080 of the Western world, of many Aryan branches of existence, have always postulated the ideas

00:26:36.940 of beauty in regards to purpose and why beauty is important, why there is a necessity to show beauty

00:26:48.180 in the things that we do, to have standards. And it boils down ultimately to beauty being

00:26:59.180 in juxtaposition to death that the creation of beauty very much like the creation of children

00:27:08.840 or the creation of art is so important you know if you have a laborer who has his body and things

00:27:18.140 that's a laborer if you have a person who uses his body and his mind that's a tradesman

00:27:22.860 If you have a person who uses his body, his mind, and his heart, you have an artisan. And so clearly art and beauty are interconnected into creating a threshold level of like your society.

00:27:42.020 And letting that go, letting that be reduced down or minimalized or turned into some sort of kind of brutal artwork or brutal architecture is one of the biggest flaws that I think we've done in the West. 0.82

00:27:59.140 And when we look at Holy Freya, the affront to her as being the source or the inspiration of beauty, we also see this with the brzingaman, the necklace that she bears, the emanating force.

00:28:22.440 A lot of people on the internet will kind of say, oh, no, this is a representation of the driving force of that natural law to reproduce.

00:28:34.740 And I think they're partially correct, but they, in modern times, have reduced reproduction down to emotionless, something that is simply done.

00:28:52.440 done for pleasure, done for committal, or done because of circumstance. And I think our ancestors

00:28:59.980 did not view it that way. I think that they combined the idea that having physical relationship

00:29:10.900 was not simply just that a transactional idea. It was emotional. It was mental. And in that,

00:29:21.680 it had a sense of beauty that inspired poetry, that inspired men to fight and defend for their

00:29:30.620 families. Did everyone do this? Obviously not. You could slice out someone and say, oh,

00:29:36.300 It doesn't seem like your theory holds up here. I'm talking about the greater strata of a society and what ultimately many societies in the West attempted to achieve, whether it was the nobility and grandeur of Napoleon or whether it was the stability of a nation in the

00:30:06.300 coupling like in spain uh just before world war ii so we see that this relationship

00:30:14.460 um and its importance coming about and one of the things it requires is stability

00:30:21.180 stability comes from having the food you need having uh the prosperity and out of that comes

00:30:30.860 the ability to facilitate beauty so the things that i'd like to

00:30:41.180 it's all and i was talking with spawn uh before the program a little bit about you know where to

00:30:47.580 intersperse some things because there's things kind of in common to the icer generally and then

00:30:55.740 there is you know again several of them get mentioned in different places so there's a little

00:31:01.420 bit of i don't know stuff to think about on it so what i think is a thread in here that is

00:31:11.980 i think something i really like about the gilford getting and something i think is

00:31:15.660 very important for us to think about we

00:31:19.420 it's the best way to encapsulate this so

00:31:24.700 the tv has told us that vikings are about barbarism and shoulder pelts and ashes on the face

00:31:37.440 and you know uh just raw animalness in the best i mean they're they feed in other things there but

00:31:50.600 something that that's not new something that from classical times they're written as the other

00:31:56.500 so one thing that a thread that people thread that authors when you deal with scholars be they

00:32:04.700 modern or ancient like to pull on for threads all the way back to you know tacitus or herodotus or

00:32:12.220 anyone coming from the quote unquote civilized world world interacting with these barbarians 0.89

00:32:18.700 they point out the exotic or the different and when they're in a like particularly puritanical

00:32:27.180 spot. They will pull out the sexual freeness of some of these groups of people. They don't always

00:32:35.060 add the context in there. Something that I think is really a challenge for us as a people, we like

00:32:42.300 to get very passionately behind an all or nothing mentality on things. Our gods and our folk

00:32:52.300 embrace life it's one of the standout things about also true and about non-abrahamic faiths

00:33:01.060 to a large degree is a celebration of the existence the natural world

00:33:08.420 life and human existence isn't sinful or gross or dirty so you do see a more realistic approach

00:33:20.400 to sexuality you see things where it's not like an icky thing that you have to do in order to make

00:33:26.000 children so you might you shouldn't have fun in doing so because that'll anger some very uh

00:33:34.320 i don't know very prudish deity but that's not the same as like cool let's just you know go out and

00:33:43.520 you know engage in carnal interaction with anything that moves at the drop of a hat

00:33:49.360 with whatever there's a lot more of a nuanced and real deal here but when we deal specifically

00:33:56.480 i would say with the other with freya and with freya these are gods that

00:34:06.640 embrace life and the living world around them the forces of procreation of lust of fecundity

00:34:15.760 all of these things have a place and i know in modern house true we get real prudish in a lot

00:34:21.360 of places and we do that because we live in a world that is extremely deviant so we we fill

00:34:28.640 in the gap with you know going really hard swinging the opposite direction one of the keys to nobility

00:34:35.680 though is taking the agency as an aryan man or woman to decide on behavior for yourself and choose

00:34:46.320 the things that you think are appropriate it's much harder than just reading down a list of

00:34:51.200 thou shalt and thou shalt not the strive to be noble is really important it's also really useful

00:34:58.880 to me and for us all to learn from the the naming here there is inherent order and structure

00:35:07.600 throughout this piece all together it presents the gods as a unified body you'll see that

00:35:14.320 these different gods were broken up into different tribes that was settled in combat and through

00:35:22.020 treaty to bond them together as one tribe. You see the Allfather leading a unified court of gods

00:35:31.380 in a unified family of divinity producing order. You don't see, you know, that's why it's kind of

00:35:38.940 silly when you see the crowd that wants to do their own thing that used to be that don't hear

00:35:45.380 it used very often anymore but there's like a vanatru instead of alsatru you know this is 0.89

00:35:51.820 unified and you can have unity and still be polytheist some of the time nope we need to

00:35:58.660 have more unity so let's try to simplify deity down to where it's just one god or just a god

00:36:06.640 and a goddess or whatever that is no this presents that you can have many gods and still be in a

00:36:15.860 unified faith and i think that's an important element i also think we talk about nobility

00:36:21.020 we're talking about deities of um of the the carnal in a lot of ways of the physical world

00:36:32.500 of reproduction of lust of mating of procreating but this is a god whose name means lord and who

00:36:43.460 uh a goddess whose name means means lady this implies nobility and imbues

00:36:51.860 fundamentals of their character that they're dignified and that's you know always been an

00:36:57.620 important ambition of our folk has been to be dignified to have um good reputation to be thought

00:37:05.540 well of to hold yourself to a higher standard and be known for that um that's been a characteristic

00:37:14.420 of our folks since the beginning and i think elements of that show up in this list and will

00:37:20.340 show up more as we continue but i wanted to throw that out there while we were on it

00:37:24.020 yeah and uh southern heathen in the um chat said uh you know he spoke about the altar god um for

00:37:36.320 uh holy frere the god of the world god of worldly things and so the idea of not denouncing it's so

00:37:46.240 eastern to say oh no we can't uh think about prosperity we can't think about um uh procreation

00:37:56.380 and and sex but at the same time it's tempered with you know we know that when someone acts

00:38:05.680 unseemly it is talked about it was talked about by our ancestors sometimes it was excused simply

00:38:12.600 because the people acting crazy were a political force or they were somehow, you know, a danger in

00:38:21.440 that sense that you sometimes couldn't just freely talk about it. But on the general, you know,

00:38:26.580 it was noted. Tacitus noticed it, that there was a sense of nobility and the idea that between

00:38:36.220 um in this in society that oh men only have one wife as opposed to say like roman society

00:38:46.200 and um that's noticeable and he's seeing it without all the nuance so i think that the

00:38:54.820 when we talk about the vanir we talk about natural law as gods of natural law they are

00:39:03.000 dominion over and within all of the things that are involved with living a life, living a good

00:39:13.400 life. So I think that's another thing to point out here too. Um, this is an opportunity and kind

00:39:25.080 of unique in the field. Anyone who's done this for an amount of time, you know, we've all,

00:39:31.800 we've all read or familiar with a lot of the primary source material because

00:39:36.400 we're very fortunate that we have as much as we do but if you do this for a few decades you kind

00:39:42.960 of get to where you're familiar with those things most often you have outsiders writing about

00:39:52.260 something exotic you have greek authors writing about you know you're coining the term barbarian

00:40:00.320 and writing about these people beyond their borders who you know drank full wine instead of like wine

00:40:06.240 spritzers and uh you find roman authors again writing about these noble savages that have

00:40:15.520 maintained a lot of their virtue that decadent urban rome had lost and that's kind of

00:40:21.440 a theme and a purpose of Tacitus' writing. And you see that with

00:40:28.640 like Christian missionaries writing from a missionary perspective. You see that with

00:40:36.180 Adam of Bremen. You see it with a number of other ecclesiastical authors.

00:40:42.620 And in modern times, you see, you know, Romantic era historians writing about these,

00:40:48.760 you know strange and distant you know fancy people that were so different from them

00:40:55.320 in this case we have the author being someone who genuinely is proud of his ancestors

00:41:01.960 who's writing not that many generations removed from their actual practice and who's you know

00:41:09.720 not writing about them as something foreign or something different but writing about you know

00:41:14.280 his great-great-grandparents. And that's a different situation. He's writing about something

00:41:24.960 there's still traces of in his society to where he's well-preserved the literary tradition in a

00:41:31.260 way because he is so deeply connected and rooted in it. We don't get that glimpse from other

00:41:38.620 authors that often point out the thing that's strange or the things that's that's different

00:41:44.680 this is talking about something that is familiar and something that is you know a source of pride

00:41:51.980 not just an oddity or worse yet something to be you know condemned or scoffed at so it's it's

00:41:59.800 really unique in its presentation that way and I think it it's such a refreshing and beautiful

00:42:06.280 perspective to come from that we don't get in a lot of the other materials.

00:42:12.520 I just wanted to say, too, just reminding everyone, if you're on, you know, if you're on YouTube,

00:42:19.260 if you're on Rumble, you know, hit that like and definitely share the link with other folks so they

00:42:29.120 can come back and watch it um especially as we're we're talking about divinity at at the core of our

00:42:38.500 faith so um okay so in section 25 we move to um tier in the old or icelandic it's tier uh that y

00:42:54.320 with the dash over it's a double e sound um but i hope to discuss some um kind of

00:43:05.040 myths and uh or misconceptions i should say um once we cover so then before we do

00:43:18.480 something that in the chat room that i think is interesting

00:43:20.720 um i think it's accurate to say that the vanir in a way represent

00:43:27.900 or rule over the forces of nature but a lot of what has been said

00:43:32.520 i think comes from not knowing how chaotic nature is and how many ways it can kill you

00:43:40.400 if you don't force it into submission and i think that that is a good

00:43:43.880 that's something i want to talk about while we're here there is a long-standing

00:43:50.720 Misconception about Alcetru and nature.

00:43:56.980 Nature is clearly differentiated in our lore between good nature that's beneficial to mankind,

00:44:09.140 and almost always that's the nature that has been cultivated, that's been tended, that's been cared for in some way.

00:44:17.580 animals that have been domesticated or brought under under the willed sovereignty of our folk

00:44:26.500 it also talks about and this is where the yotnar are you know the

00:44:33.120 would be confusing if i said the gods of but the spiritual forces that have power over

00:44:43.320 chaotic nature and destructive nature the forest fire or the the deep foreboding ocean or the you

00:44:54.660 know the bitter the bitter cold of unknown unknown and distant dark forests um you see this a lot

00:45:07.480 from the very beginning we've seen it in this poem so far the gods of order and of willpower

00:45:15.240 take chaotic existence in the form of emir slay that chaos and break it into pieces

00:45:25.000 and from those pieces shape ordered useful things through their willpower like literally through

00:45:33.880 villi shapes is part of the shaping of these things through willpower through

00:45:43.880 ecstatic spiritual inspiration and through a pious sacrality this is formed into the

00:45:52.120 world around us into the world of beauty and of order and things that are beneficial for us

00:45:57.800 so it's really useful to see those differences you know the van here very much are about

00:46:05.320 natural things that are good for our folk that are good for us that are in line with moving 1.00

00:46:11.880 us forward and that are useful whereas the yotnar are this un unconquered un untouched nature and 1.00

00:46:19.960 a lot of people come into this and some of their first experiences with feeling a divine connection 1.00

00:46:29.020 come through the awe of nature so you know people will find spiritual connection when they go out in

00:46:37.300 the woods or they go hiking or you know I'm not denying that it's majestic to look at beautiful

00:46:44.960 untamed nature. But as someone that grew up in Alaska in a number of interesting situations,

00:46:54.000 that nature can be deadly very, very quick and foreboding very quick.

00:46:59.940 So there's a magnificence at looking at the creation of the gods in a place that is

00:47:05.480 untouched and that is just epic and scale, realizing the beauty of it and your proportion

00:47:14.760 to it is spiritually enlightening, and I'm not suggesting it's not. And being in that kind of

00:47:19.940 an environment with the noise of the world closed out to you can facilitate a better connection with

00:47:26.100 our gods, with your ancestors, with yourself. But it's important to realize that our gods are all

00:47:33.240 about shaping nature to what's beneficial to us. And that's a big part of their shape and order

00:47:41.300 from chaos. We see that in like the title Etheville, the field of work, the gods come to

00:47:52.220 heaven and they find the place upon which they will formulate and build the prosperity for them

00:48:00.440 to move forward. And I think that our ancestors looked at it not as, I need to make boats so I'm

00:48:08.100 going to cut down trees and that that's bad. No, the trees will grow back and that we are

00:48:18.080 coalescing with order, bringing ourselves closer with the gods in the sense that we are bringing

00:48:26.460 order. I mean, I think there is that moral compunction that all of us have where it goes,

00:48:30.940 say too far but in the just general sense i think all too often um people have gone into this whole

00:48:40.040 nature worship and they don't realize that our ancestors very much controlled nature as best as

00:48:46.180 they could so and that was considered divine a divine while we're on it it's it's really worth

00:48:53.660 pointing out and again we'll take as long to go over this poem as we need to because we kind of

00:48:58.580 on these things it's one of the big parts if you're new to the show why we do this is as we're

00:49:03.540 examining pieces of the lore we expound upon topics that come up that you know strike the

00:49:09.220 interest of either us or of the audience and we kind of you know try to thoroughly go over

00:49:16.180 a lot of those points but one of the things i was going to say um as i mentioned earlier

00:49:25.140 in you know just a few minutes ago we notice when something has gotten malignant and gone too far

00:49:33.860 and so it's very tempting to swing the pendulum back the other direction

00:49:37.700 equally as as a skew from balance and good order

00:49:43.700 we should absolutely use natural resources for our betterment and for our needs but part of

00:49:50.580 part of making use of nature is being good stewards of it is taking good care of the

00:50:00.900 things that are beautiful around us and not you know it's funny because you get hippies that'll

00:50:06.900 think if you know swan mentioned the boat you cut down trees to make some because you need a boat

00:50:12.420 or you need a house there's some people that would make it sound like people who do that

00:50:18.580 are at war with the trees because they're inherently anti-tree that's not the case

00:50:24.580 it's making use of the things around you it's making use of um in a lot of ways the gifts of

00:50:32.500 our gods and doing doing it responsibly just like anything else there's a lot of things that

00:50:41.300 the difference is how it's done there's things that can be done responsibly and there's things

00:50:45.060 that are done completely disrespectfully of the world around us this is a world that we share

00:50:50.980 with each other and we share with a variety of spirits that also occupy the world around us that

00:50:55.940 we wouldn't want to offend by destroying or you know making a mess in the world that's around us

00:51:04.500 wantonly we need to preserve you know preserve beauty and a lot of that has to do with

00:51:10.500 how we are custodians of the natural world uh one of the arguments that i made in college uh much to

00:51:20.020 the chagrin of my professor was that um uh that these kind of notions these perhaps we could call

00:51:27.300 them left-wing or whatever they are the idea um is deeply rooted with the universalism and the

00:51:36.020 generality of monotheism, Christianity, or, you know, as I've said, it's a subsect of Judaism.

00:51:45.940 And I bring that point up because you'll always hear like, preserve the forest, preserve the 0.79

00:51:52.100 forest. And then we found out that if you do that, and then a lightning strike ignites the forest,

00:51:58.820 it's really bad but the natives that were living there would purposely burn the forest down and 0.87

00:52:06.660 uh to create the cycle of growth and it's because they didn't see um this kind of timeline of 0.96

00:52:16.340 left to right and um kind of creating that morality that's so stark in reality they saw

00:52:24.980 nature and the way that it worked. And so they would burn. And I mean, even our ancestors did

00:52:33.300 this, but eventually, you know, they tamed the land to such a degree that they were completely

00:52:40.960 kind of harmonious with it in the time that they were living in. So you see like these people

00:52:49.580 kind of saying, oh, you know, don't disturb the forest, don't hurt the forest. And these people

00:52:54.900 are a product of that thinking and the natives of those lands were like no we got to burn the land

00:53:00.500 and um yeah sure animals the fire might be bad but it's going to improve and reduce fire danger

00:53:10.500 in the future and so you you find these kind of two conflicts um subliminally subliminally playing

00:53:19.620 out i think it's worth pointing out and it's easy to see these things in political terms because in

00:53:26.420 our lifetime they're um topics that are talked about politically often but a lot of this is part

00:53:35.060 of the soul sickness of our people to where our folk feel separate from nature as if there's nature

00:53:45.540 over here and we shouldn't disturb it and we should leave it alone as if we have no right to

00:53:50.480 be a part of it. That's not the case. We are part of the world around us. We are part of the world

00:53:56.280 that our gods forged and we should fully embrace life and our existence and participation in the

00:54:05.600 world instead of like, it's this special thing that we should all butt out of and not be a part

00:54:11.620 of, um, that's a symptom of that soul sickness in a really, I don't know, in a way that I think

00:54:19.200 appears counterintuitively. I think a lot of the people, you know, I've noticed this growing up in

00:54:25.240 Alaska, you know, the best conservationists I've known are hunters and fishers and people who are,

00:54:31.380 who actively are in nature. Yeah. They kill animals and they eat them and they're part of

00:54:38.340 nature but you have people in other parts of the country that are very very urban scolding them

00:54:45.300 because you know as if nature is these urban people's private theme park that like you can't

00:54:52.500 touch it's this special thing because they are so far removed from it and they have no connection to

00:54:58.100 it they think they're trying to care for it and preserve it they don't realize how far removed

00:55:06.660 they are from the situation and you know that's kind of a unique alaskan experience because it is

00:55:11.780 so remote and you can go in alaska so many places that in the rest of the united states you know you

00:55:18.340 go out hiking it's hard not to see a bunch of people around you it's very easy in alaska to be

00:55:23.220 on a trail all day where nobody you'll see another soul or you can very easily get to

00:55:28.580 areas to where you know no white man's ever gone um so really getting that that sense of

00:55:40.980 the reality of nature is just something that everybody doesn't have so you get a bunch of

00:55:45.220 people who have an idea in their head of nature and they go out and try to engage in it and they

00:55:52.980 realize it's very different than maybe what i don't know in san francisco they had in their

00:55:58.420 head that nature is supposed to be like so that's something we see time and again and i think it gets

00:56:04.980 uh i don't know gets brought out a little bit but spawn let's try to um get back well let's okay but

00:56:12.420 let's read the uh part about tier and then and then we'll look at where we're at with a question

00:56:19.380 Okay. All right. So, 25, of Tyr.

00:56:24.600 Then, said Gangleri, great in power do these Aesir seem to me, nor is it a marvel that much authority attends you who are said to possess understanding of the gods, and know which one man should call on for what boon soever. 0.94

00:56:47.280 Or are the gods yet more?

00:56:52.520 Haur, Hai, said, yet remains that one of the Aesir, who is called Tir,

00:57:01.480 he is most daring, best in stoutness of heart,

00:57:06.420 and he has much authority over the victory of battle.

00:57:11.960 It is good for men of valor to invoke him.

00:57:17.280 It is a proverb that he who is tir-valiant, who surpasses other men and does not waver, if he is wise, so that it is also said that he is tir-prudent.

00:57:35.280 This is one token of his daring. When the Aesir enticed Fenris' wolf to take upon him the fetter, Klepnir, the wolf did not believe the gods and that they would loose him until they laid Tyr's hand in his mouth as a pledge.

00:58:01.280 ledge, which means the moment that it's known that he's trapped. So he was calling on their fear 0.57

00:58:12.600 and Tir looked beyond that fear to the benefit of the gods. And I love talking about the gods

00:58:25.320 and death and the gods and fear and why that makes us unique um to say uh the god of everything

00:58:33.840 that's in anything and everything and everywhere and has no fear or understanding of that um

00:58:42.160 it's it's a uniqueness there the the fact that we see lord tir and see that sacrifice and the uh

00:58:52.240 judaics the uh they had to humanize their god uh into a literal human in order to express any of

00:59:00.880 these ideas that i think they were looking around at their neighbors and realizing oh man these

00:59:06.400 there's so much more connection and that led to humanizing their god but um it says

00:59:15.920 But when the Iser would not loose him, then he bit off the hand at the place that is now called the wolf's joint, the wrist.

00:59:26.000 And Tir is one-handed and is not called a reconciler of men. 0.96

00:59:33.100 He is not called upon for peace.

00:59:36.120 He is a lord of war.

00:59:40.580 But there's so much to talk about here.

00:59:43.780 I think first is the elephant in the room. A lot of people reading books and reading on the internet might say, oh, well, you know, what's the nature of Tyr? Is Tyr some older god that was usurped by Lord Odin? I think that's ridiculous.

01:00:03.020 I believe as the church, we completely denounce this idea. 0.58

01:00:10.100 The usage of the word tir, going all the way back to deus, and the nomenclature being attested to variant levels of divine beings, sometimes at the very top, other times intermediately.

01:00:31.240 And some people are trying to scholarly write out Lord Tyr. And I think that that's false. But if we look back to Tacitus and when he mentions that the Germanics honor Mars, Mercury and Hercules, again, a tripartite, which they would have been familiar with.

01:00:57.880 But clearly a connection to Mars, Ares, the Lord of War.

01:01:06.700 And so we see the Tyr as a Lord that adjudicates victory.

01:01:16.380 So observation, judgment.

01:01:18.960 And a lot of people have tried to say, oh, there's no celestial accounts of Lord Tyr. And they're wrong. In the Anglo-Saxon runic poem, Lord Tyr is referred to as the North Star.

01:01:38.820 And again, the singularity, the idea of losing the hand and the North Star being that central point, I think is very poetically and spiritually purposeful.

01:01:56.920 And so we have what I would call the stasis throne of the tripartite. We have the dynamic and the catalystic and now we have the stasis throne and we see it in the days of our weeks.

01:02:13.180 We see it with Tuesday, Tyr's day, Ogden's day, and Thor's day.

01:02:21.220 So, and the center being the highest point, certainly of the age when this was kind of designed.

01:02:31.980 So Lord Tyr is not a reconciler of men.

01:02:36.240 I don't think that our ancestors prayed to him to absolve legalities.

01:02:42.520 I think that is more in Forseti's realm, but that this is about after victory, how do you implement justice?

01:02:55.300 And that's a whole.

01:02:58.060 See, I think that's something that was very interesting when I got involved in House True.

01:03:04.240 it was you know tear equals justice equals i'm going to court so tear please help me get out of

01:03:13.040 my speeding ticket that's that this is the point on the reckon reconciliation of men it's not this

01:03:21.860 isn't about there's there's two ways we can resolve conflict us getting together and having

01:03:33.600 adjudicated and talking it out and leaving his friends and shaking hands with some kind of an

01:03:38.480 agreement that sort of a reconciliation in a mediation is one thing but tears form of that

01:03:48.960 is you know you you resolve the conflict through overwhelming dominating your your foe and you win

01:04:00.240 if you have to go to that point it's of the rawness of justice through

01:04:09.440 decisive decisive action um and i think that's a really really important distinction especially

01:04:18.080 as we compare tier with uh let's say forsetti um his and you see that a lot when when the

01:04:27.680 romans would associate him with with mars mars thing is the mar mars of the of the assembly

01:04:36.480 um so i think that matters a lot looking over on the side chat

01:04:40.880 uh yeah some great that's awesome daniel that you got to spend 20 years in iceland

01:04:46.080 um i am struggling to learn icelandic and i feel like if i could spend 20 weeks in iceland i could

01:04:54.080 get i could get so much closer than i am now but uh i don't know if you know if you're a long-term

01:04:58.800 listener but my co-host is a a son of iceland um he is he has consumed the rotten shark um 0.66

01:05:08.720 and feel and will all kind of rotten fatty delicate delicacies of the sea and the beach 0.69

01:05:16.080 good night baby um oh so celine donated i meant to miss this a minute ago and i didn't i'm sorry

01:05:27.920 33 dollars to victory never sleeps thank you celine we appreciate that um we've got a good

01:05:36.160 chat room tonight got a couple of things stacking up as far as questions i want to go ahead and

01:05:41.040 get into a few of those um hail all question i've owned and operated a successful small business

01:05:49.380 in my hometown for nearly 20 years i'm now seriously considering a move to an entirely

01:05:55.060 different region of the u.s where i plan to reopen the business but under a different name

01:06:00.420 i know your stance on using the gods names directly for people and pets but what about

01:06:06.880 in-business titles.

01:06:09.280 Off the top of my head,

01:06:11.100 for example, Thor's Trucking,

01:06:13.200 Ride the Lightning, or

01:06:15.180 Odin's

01:06:16.860 Ice Cream, Taste

01:06:18.460 of Divinity.

01:06:24.460 Only if it's Mint Chocolate Chip.

01:06:29.300 Sorry those are cheesy,

01:06:30.980 but you get the idea. As always,

01:06:32.640 excited for another great show.

01:06:34.120 the gods like and share everyone um just want to put a plug out there first if you are moving uh

01:06:43.480 from where you are and moving your business you should move your business to jackson county

01:06:47.240 tennessee we'd love to have you here we're building something great trying to get all

01:06:51.640 you guys who want to and who are able to come join me so that we can really be a presence here

01:06:58.200 but wherever you go um swan do you have some thoughts on that i looked at it earlier and

01:07:02.520 I've got a couple, but I want to hear your thoughts on this.

01:07:06.460 Well, I think, firstly, it depends on context.

01:07:12.300 I think that if you remain seemly and upfront and upright about it, I think it's perfectly fine.

01:07:20.720 In actuality, it creates interest and an ignition in our folk's soul about learning and reconnecting to the gods in a positive way.

01:07:35.840 We've seen it in negative ways.

01:07:37.300 We see it with kind of the movies. And sometimes I see silly things like there's one in particular with Holy Freya, where it's I think it's like a bumper sticker or something where it says, if you can't lay them, slay them. 0.96

01:07:58.200 And I just thought that was like kind of really missing the point and reducing her dominion into kind of a comic-y sense.

01:08:08.500 Or maybe I'm just too stuffy, but I think the idea would be to incorporate the gods in a sense that it's beneficial, like the examples that you gave.

01:08:26.860 um you know naming and things like that it seems to be that our ancestors did not allocate names

01:08:35.060 singularly that uh thor lord thor was his own and they wouldn't name their child

01:08:43.720 like as the singularity but thor stein thor bjorn was perfectly acceptable and in this case i kind

01:08:53.320 of think it follows the same rules. You're seeing like Odin's mead, I think is a brand of mead.

01:09:02.080 And I don't think that that's bad. As long as it initiates good conversation and progresses forward

01:09:10.920 the ignition of our gods in their people, I think it would be fine. But if it goes into something

01:09:21.820 kind of you know just unseemly i i wouldn't suggest it is basically what i'm saying um

01:09:35.100 i did uh i think we're gonna hop back oh there we go so

01:09:51.820 kind of like with the naming there is with the naming of a person

01:09:57.500 you have options with a business name if you name your business odin no it's a bad idea don't do that

01:10:06.700 um if your naming of a business is in dedication or in respect to the all father in some way

01:10:15.820 or is again i think with anything you do the the level of reverence is really important um

01:10:26.460 i mean it depends also on what the nature of the business is you know you don't want to have

01:10:32.940 you know bragi strip club or something that would be inappropriate but if you had

01:10:38.140 uh a musical company or like you sold instruments you did something that way i don't necessarily

01:10:45.020 think that would be inappropriate so figuring out that kind of detail that stuff matters

01:10:51.340 and i think that makes all the difference on that that would be my my advice on that

01:11:01.500 i'm noticing too there's some great questions particularly pertaining to um lord odin and

01:11:08.700 tier so they're just a little bit further down the queue um so i would definitely say you know

01:11:17.020 hang on for that but that these questions and you know i was thinking about it am i stuffy for

01:11:27.580 not wanting you know again as i was here ago they said like bragi's strip club or whatever

01:11:34.860 No, the biggest thing is, is that our point of view for the church is that the gods are to elevate us, make us better.

01:11:44.620 So if you see someone that's like, oh, you know what?

01:11:47.300 You're being too stuffy.

01:11:48.560 There's nothing wrong with having Bragi's strip.

01:11:54.760 The reality is, is that they're degrading the elevation.

01:11:58.900 We all know internally that's not good.

01:12:02.200 It's a bad place.

01:12:03.380 there's often bad people in there and or just it's not good elevating and bringing forth again

01:12:13.060 beauty sexualization and community coming together not in that way um is clearly better so i think

01:12:24.080 that that's always what the gods should be associated with and anybody who suggests

01:12:29.280 otherwise doesn't view the gods as ascending forces pulling us into better they view them as

01:12:40.800 caricatures that they can just buddy around with and that's ridiculous but yeah 0.61

01:12:50.400 out. Anyways, no, just look it over at the chat. All right.

01:13:09.400 I think we were on the pregame story or question. Yeah. Over in the VNS pregame chat.

01:13:20.380 We talked about motherhood medals. Is that something the AFA has ever considered doing

01:13:25.660 as an encouragement for babies and family building? Yeah, that's something we've thought

01:13:31.920 about in the past. It's gone over a couple of different times. It's not something that we've

01:13:40.420 ruled out. It's certainly not something that we're against. It hasn't really moved forward a lot. I'd

01:13:45.540 certainly be willing to um to consider that and consider how that looks moving forward but i think

01:13:52.300 it's really cool idea i'm not opposed we certainly want to build um to build healthy and you know

01:14:00.700 healthy and vibrant afa families and we would love you know even more beautiful white babies

01:14:07.500 we always love those in the afa um i think the blankets too are kind of a

01:14:13.500 so yeah for folks that don't know every uh every baby that's born into the afa we send

01:14:20.620 we send them a blanket my wife's actually in charge of the like sending out blankets 1.00

01:14:27.180 we've got a number of different afa ladies that um either quilt or 1.00

01:14:35.100 weave or sew or there's i don't know all the nuance but craft blankets in different ways 0.93

01:14:41.500 end and we'd like to send those to uh new afa babies and their families so they know just that

01:14:49.020 that we're there that we want to be with those babies from day one and uh you know we we love

01:14:55.020 and support our afa families so that's the thing we've got two because my son was not we weren't

01:15:01.740 in the shelter of the church uh when he was born but my um uh second and third we were so kind of a

01:15:11.500 a medal a trophy or just something we have honorifically and we keep

01:15:21.500 all right um another question we've got

01:15:27.420 good evening all i wonder how many other people feel this way but as time passes i am feeling

01:15:32.780 more disconnected from our nation the recent news cycle isn't helping and that feeling is accelerating

01:15:39.340 it's becoming increasingly difficult to be proud to be an american that said i'm glad to be a part

01:15:44.860 of the church or of a church that is made of tight-knit people who have each other's back

01:15:51.500 people like us cannot rely on old institutions as they become increasingly corrupt and use as tools

01:15:58.140 to our disadvantage just wondering if you have any thoughts on this matter uh perhaps you perhaps

01:16:04.620 Oh, I'm sorry. Appreciate all you do. Thank you. I can read, I promise.

01:16:12.860 I do want to let Svon hit that first, but I have a lot of thoughts on that. Go ahead, Svon.

01:16:17.600 All right. Well, Austin, I hope you're still with us in the chat, but I think that

01:16:25.520 But it really does boil down to what if that's purposeful? What if the intention is to dissolve it? So you look at, okay, well, if I just reignite this, what am I supporting in this and that, and I don't like it?

01:16:45.660 No, really, it all, again, returns to the original flame, the idea of knowing where

01:16:58.320 the nation comes from. And so I think that one of the biggest things is being proud of your nation

01:17:07.220 comes really not so much from all the minutia of modern government and all of the just ups and

01:17:17.500 downs and very sludgy things, but to look into the past and see the dedication of George Washington

01:17:25.540 to a nation and the idea of what he wanted as a nation or, you know, Hamilton and looking at

01:17:36.220 these foundational principles that actually were honored and just really, really structured,

01:17:45.700 even into recent times. The American First Council that had Ford and Lindbergh in it,

01:17:57.360 uh there was just recently even though i think now with news cycles and information people feel

01:18:06.480 like uh something three months ago might as well been three years ago but looking back on that

01:18:15.400 creates stabilization in our minds and in our hearts gives us stability and also gives us a

01:18:22.580 strong anvil to beat the craziness against and say, look, the reason why I don't like this and

01:18:31.180 what's going on right now is because our nation has always exuded these principles, these ideas, 0.54

01:18:38.780 and it gives a great chance for you to pull people out of the red and blue polarics and go back to

01:18:48.200 the foundational principles of the nation that were, again, considering things in a totally

01:18:58.900 different way, especially about the legitimacy of merit and the legitimacy of what people could

01:19:08.760 do and attain in the world. There are faults. I agree with a lot of the founding, but some of it

01:19:17.920 again, hindsight gives you that wisdom. But I think it's really important to look

01:19:25.220 back and foundationally and build up from there. And when you kind of start to see it

01:19:34.300 getting strained and cut out, it's really, really close to our time. I would even argue into the

01:19:42.260 60s. So not far and not so disconnected. And that gives you a compass to tell other people,

01:19:53.700 hey, yeah, I don't like what's going on or what this is doing, because look at what our founding

01:20:00.380 or even just principled people throughout our nation have said this. And overwhelmingly,

01:20:10.100 Americans agreed so yeah the the real problem is is that in that short span of you know the

01:20:20.560 information three weeks to three years kind of thing um there is a utilization to disconnect

01:20:26.660 people from the spirit um of our nation and I think that that we should resist against that I

01:20:35.280 think it's worthy to resist against it and understand that as of just recently there is

01:20:43.960 this overwhelming uh kind of separation between uh government you know these these organizations

01:20:52.860 are doing terrible things to the the very people of the nation and other people in other nations

01:21:01.400 And, you know, we see with all of these things going on how deeply they're corrupted or influenced by foreign governments, by agents who are blackmailing members of our government, all of these things, terrible stuff.

01:21:18.500 And the reason why it's terrible is because we can look back and see what is good. So that stuff is the stuff that should invigorate you and have that connectivity and take it more than just the surface level, perhaps patriotism or, you know, civil or civic, excuse me, civic, you know, nationalism, if you will.

01:21:48.500 Because all countries can falter. And if you believe in the core, then you know even more so what you dislike. And that helps you with your, you're not disconnected.

01:22:01.540 no i know i was muted i was talking to my wife about

01:22:12.020 gummies with shaquille o'neal's face on them um i don't know why these exist but they do

01:22:20.700 and it meets my macros i've not fulfilled my carbohydrates for today they exist so people

01:22:26.700 like you will buy them sir i my lovely wife bought them for me don't judge me so all right so

01:22:44.700 um a nation and you used the word nation we're talking about nation not country

01:22:51.180 the idea of nation is people from a common common origin that share a common birth

01:23:03.900 and i think that when you're in a country that is made up of homogeneous

01:23:11.820 the more homogeneous your country is ethnically religiously and and culturally

01:23:19.100 the more you have commonality with your neighbor the less you have in common with the people

01:23:26.200 around you and the more that you what binds you is largely geography the harder it is to feel

01:23:34.520 patriotic we struggle with that a lot the more we don't feel like we have connectivity and

01:23:43.540 commonality with our neighbors on any of the things that matter that are important

01:23:48.140 And that's really unfortunate.

01:23:50.720 I think your question, I appreciate you asking it.

01:23:54.480 And I think it's something that a lot of us struggle with and feel a lot of the time.

01:23:59.600 I think there is also an inborn thing within us as noble people to embrace patriotism.

01:24:07.600 I think patriotism is wonderful and born from the most noble and the greatest intentions.

01:24:14.700 And I would never want to speak against it.

01:24:17.420 It's like you, you have the courage to ask the question. A lot of us don't, don't want to bring it up because we don't want to alienate people that we have deep respect for. People don't want to part with an intense American patriotism because they know people who've served. They may have family that have served. They may have served themselves.

01:24:42.200 um we have this you know these traditions this root this legacy of people that

01:24:48.440 we deeply respect and admire that are our national heroes um

01:24:53.440 my my people in this country go back since before the revolution

01:24:59.880 um that i can name i think there's several that do but very specifically i can trace

01:25:09.000 my people back to you know colonial uh virginia and

01:25:17.480 and the colonial carolinas and it's you don't want to part with all those good things that are

01:25:24.920 and have traditionally been such a special part of your family now i say that not to you directly

01:25:30.200 but to anybody listening because we have people that you know maybe they're first generation

01:25:34.120 americans maybe they're you know ancestral americans it's it's hard for everybody and

01:25:41.400 it just kind of is what it is but

01:25:46.840 and this is obvious but it's worth making note of

01:25:56.040 you are where you are and i think a lot of people in their head think that it's so much better

01:26:01.480 someplace else i think for our people right now it it's not better a lot of other places that we

01:26:08.840 might think in our head it is and even if we think it's better someplace else and it is better there

01:26:14.440 it's very hard to uproot and immigrate to those places but those are all things you know to think

01:26:21.080 about if that's something that you you genuinely feel moved to do but in the meantime you find

01:26:26.200 yourself where you are and the news and current events and politics and whatever else can and

01:26:34.520 does bring us all down in a lot of different ways and i say all of us on this broadcast but

01:26:40.760 folks on the other team too when it goes a different direction um we have become really

01:26:46.600 really polarized but we're intermixed in our communities intermixed in our country in a way

01:26:52.520 data where there is not a commonality and a connectivity between those teams.

01:26:57.400 And there's a whole bunch of people that don't find a spot on either of the teams that don't

01:27:01.900 know what to do.

01:27:03.780 So all of that is sad and depressing and we all get it.

01:27:08.120 And I just want you to know that it's not just you, a great, great many people in this

01:27:13.340 nation feel that way and struggle with that.

01:27:15.980 Um, but as you mentioned that you're so happy to be a part of the Outstreet Focus, so here

01:27:23.420 are my thoughts on it.

01:27:25.680 This is the solution.

01:27:29.760 Wishing for the good old days that aren't there doesn't make them appear.

01:27:35.300 Wishing for a time or a country or a period in history gone by doesn't make it appear.

01:27:42.600 getting together with other people who are like-minded and share your values and throwing

01:27:47.560 in your lot with them and building community with them, that does get you closer to where you want to

01:27:52.680 go. And being a part of the AFA is a big part of that. I think that the AFA and AFA membership is a

01:28:00.440 buttress against all of the things that we worry about in the world. Facing hardship, we are always

01:28:09.800 stronger and better when we're united and we're together when we live closer to one another

01:28:16.040 and when we can take solace strength and refuge amongst our kinfolk uh not just ethnically but

01:28:25.400 also spiritually and you can do that in the astro folk assembly in a way that you can't other places

01:28:30.760 being an afa member we are trying to build community surrounding all of our hofs and i'm

01:28:36.440 I'm trying as I've plugged several, or already in this broadcast, and I'll continue to do so,

01:28:41.780 move to Tennessee.

01:28:43.160 If you get close, literally trying to build that with my neighbors and people close to me

01:28:49.340 to where we can have that community in a very real weekly, a couple times a weekly, if you want, way.

01:28:58.820 That, it may seem simple, but I do think that is the solution.

01:29:03.560 In hard times, we are better situated to navigate any kind of calamity, any kind of difficulty, be it a bigger thing, an environmental thing, a geopolitical thing, just personal stuff in your life.

01:29:17.080 We're always better poised if we're together and if we're united.

01:29:19.560 and if things go amazingly and things go great in the country and you feel these feelings you

01:29:26.640 know shift over time we have a new american golden age we're best poised to celebrate that

01:29:32.900 together and unified and to be a big part of that together so in all cases putting your energy into

01:29:42.400 a group of people that is in a scope that you can contribute have people who know your name

01:29:52.420 who you know their name who can shake your hand be your friend and help you build your family

01:29:58.900 and your life together and who you can help build families and lives together that's what we're

01:30:04.180 doing and that's what we get to do together and it's something that so many people out there don't

01:30:08.180 have um and i hope they find us and can come home here assuming that they're you know heterosexual

01:30:14.900 white folks but that's what we're doing and i think we're making really good progress with that

01:30:20.820 but it's a really good question i'm glad you brought it up because something on a lot of

01:30:23.620 people's minds oh a chat room aside and i'm a little bit behind on the chat uh icelandic daniel

01:30:35.300 Thank you for your donations and your contributing to stuff.

01:30:41.840 Really good idea people talking about.

01:30:43.960 If you did want to help some of us learn Icelandic, we would appreciate it a lot.

01:30:48.080 Having somebody who speaks it fluently would be a big help.

01:30:51.660 And I know that many of us are very eager to learn.

01:30:54.320 I know Svon and myself are, you know, at the top of that list.

01:31:00.020 Svon's already got a head start being born there and, you know, learning his ABCs there.

01:31:05.300 um i am i'm slogging through it so yeah we'd love help if it's something you are interested in doing

01:31:12.660 and though nick's a little bit blunt in his recruitment approach seriously you should

01:31:19.940 absolutely join we'd love to have you part of part of the team and have you get on board and join

01:31:24.900 when you find yourself ready but that is not a flex it is an invitation however

01:31:29.460 um next up how do odin and tear differ in their relationship to battle and war in our personal

01:31:44.080 battles uh when should we call upon which you said before that the gods can be called upon for

01:31:52.720 any purpose but doesn't it seem to explicitly state here that god should be called upon in

01:31:58.500 specific circumstances related to that circumstance? Cool. I'll treat the second

01:32:07.680 one as a completely different question. Go ahead with that, Svan, if you would.

01:32:11.480 Yeah. One of the things, the first part, how do Odin and Tyr differ in their relationship

01:32:18.660 to battle and war? My interpretation of their interconnectedness to this

01:32:24.400 very primal part of our people and nation is the same as kind of how scholars have

01:32:37.000 referenced Lord Odin as the psychopomp or the carrier or is involved in the processes of the

01:32:46.220 soul, that's very, very clear. Whereas Lord Tyr is not. And I would say that that kind of gives us

01:32:56.100 the notion about there is the souls that die in battle and the concern of being chosen,

01:33:04.960 because vowel is often translated as slain, but it also means chosen. So the chosen souls

01:33:14.160 getting a chance to breach and join with the gods in the upper realm. As we've spoken about before,

01:33:22.940 heaven is not open to every ignoble soul. And we've seen and met enough to know, like,

01:33:32.640 that's probably a good thing. And that aspiring to be noble enough to be chosen. Whereas

01:33:41.580 As when I mentioned earlier with Lord Tyr about nation, about adjudication of lands, about borders, about resources, and these things,

01:33:56.480 I've always taken Lord Tyr to be more of the living of the battle, what to do after victory.

01:34:07.680 And we've talked about this because, you know, a lot of people will get in their heads, oh, I, you know, you die in battle, you go to Valhalla. And it's very, very kind of rudimentary.

01:34:23.300 And I think what really is going on is there's an intricacy level of the battle and looking at the individual soul and their actions and that if they're in a situation and they rise above.

01:34:39.780 I mean, we can see this even today in modern battles, you know, this bravery and doing what must be done and hopefully being chosen and approving to Lord Othen that you kind of descend away from all things.

01:34:57.320 and the only thing is the moment and that moment may end in your demise but you rose to that moment

01:35:04.760 even despite fear and it kind of ascended that um

01:35:13.240 however battles are battles upon battles upon battles

01:35:17.880 It is the war's totality that I think Lord Tyr is kind of, that dominion is laying upon him.

01:35:32.560 And that's because Lord Odin is concerned with the souls and the way that the might of the souls.

01:35:40.120 Whereas Lord Tyr, again, giving victory, but in kind of a broader and living sense.

01:35:46.740 um judgment rulership um are uh in in relation to say like perhaps like government i think lord

01:35:57.880 tear has a great amount can you pray to lord othen for that absolutely but we see in the story

01:36:05.840 when gangleri is asking like who should men pray to um one we should look at the nature of that

01:36:12.800 relationship. What are they attempting to say in this dialogue? One is that the way that

01:36:21.600 religiosity definitely worked was relationship. I think that it's telling a little bit that

01:36:29.980 there's Christian kind of overtones, perhaps even in the thinking of Snorri Stuttleson,

01:36:38.240 where either he's trying to demean the understanding

01:36:42.940 that our ancestors only looked at the relationship

01:36:46.500 with the gods contractual,

01:36:48.440 or I would argue that many or much of the way

01:36:53.040 in which monotheism works is contractual

01:36:56.920 because if you don't follow the rules,

01:37:00.020 you get the bad things.

01:37:01.640 Um, but the overarching relationship points or what, what we, as the Aussie True Folk Assembly talk about is, yes, the gods are great divine beings.

01:37:18.440 And if they overlap in some sense of dominion, it's because they're wielding primordial forces that they have manifested and shaped to aid in creating order and for humanity, for the fold.

01:37:37.880 So we have to not, you know, this God is the God of this.

01:37:44.680 And I think a lot of people, there's like two sides of that.

01:37:48.440 You got the abstract folks who are just like, ah, you know, all the gods are really just the male and all the goddesses are the female.

01:37:59.080 And you kind of see that in the New Age movements.

01:38:01.580 On the other side, inversely, you have scholars who are desperately trying to say, no, no, no, no, no, Lord Odin is this title, this god, and none of the other gods can touch what he's doing.

01:38:21.860 And in reality, he's really just those gods, they're just getting lumped into him.

01:38:29.180 And so they have no respect for the divine. And they mold and push their concepts of the gods into little boxes. And so you kind of see this polaric view. And we're a third position.

01:38:44.840 And the third position is that the gods are willful, non-biological cosmic powers that are connected to not only nature, but time and all manner of forces that we don't fully understand.

01:39:02.980 And that when they are interacting with the world, they are utilizing primordial elements.

01:39:14.680 So if there is a fair storm and you prayed to Lord Thor to perhaps your crops or to get through a bad storm while you're driving and it miraculously disappears, that doesn't mean that somehow it infringed on Lord Njord and someone praying to him in relation to the ocean or sailing.

01:39:41.060 No, the gods have dominion over these primordial elements. And in a lot of ways, so do the Yotnar. We use the word divine because of the specialness between us and the gods.

01:39:55.360 But the Yotnar are ancient beings, ancient powerful beings, and they are part of that triangle that clearly were not willing to play ball, if you will, whereas gods of cosmic order and gods of natural law, even though they had conflict, eventually they align and they bring themselves to, okay, order is good. 1.00

01:40:20.900 cycles can still be going without um with order but uh you know the yotnar were like 0.94

01:40:29.180 you know no i'm sorry but the real thing is is that when we um we see this kind of

01:40:37.680 uh relationship i think that it's good to look at uh warfare and uh especially because it's so

01:40:47.240 pronounced um at the time from tacitus to to the to the adas uh lord tyr is is about bravery

01:40:56.800 about the stalwart heart about the rising up to defend and to fight and lord odin is still

01:41:05.820 called the victory father but one of the big things is about the ascension of the soul and

01:41:11.260 the metaphysics of war um not just the the material so who do you go to if you have a bad

01:41:21.180 breakup are you asking me no i'm asking rhetorically but i think that if i asked you

01:41:32.380 and i asked me and i asked um i forget whoever but whoever asked and i asked the question

01:41:38.940 we'd likely have different things

01:41:41.300 and for different reasons. 0.98

01:41:42.920 The goddess calls them.

01:41:44.820 But that's the thing, that matters.

01:41:49.200 It's not a one-size-fits-all on our gods

01:41:52.260 and it depends the reasons you go to different people.

01:41:55.660 Do you want to talk to your mom about it

01:41:57.680 because she's going to give you a hug

01:41:59.420 and she's going to maybe make you your favorite food

01:42:02.400 and dust you off and make you feel better 1.00

01:42:05.660 after you got knocked down?

01:42:07.600 Do you want to talk to one of your friends?

01:42:09.760 Because they'll take you out to the bar and help you forget about it and, you know, lean in to like, that's her problem. 1.00

01:42:18.560 Screw her. 1.00

01:42:19.200 Let's, you know, whatever. 1.00

01:42:20.660 Nah, let's get your mind off it and do this fun thing. 1.00

01:42:25.720 You want to talk to one of your good friends that's a woman that, you know, just gives you some perspective. 0.99

01:42:30.620 Like, where did it go wrong? 0.79

01:42:31.840 What, you know, should I learn from this?

01:42:33.980 What's going on?

01:42:35.440 It all depends, and those are all valid reasons.

01:42:40.940 The gods, in a lot of ways, are like that.

01:42:43.440 You're going to find some people you would not go to in that situation. 1.00

01:42:47.660 Man, I don't want to talk to my brother because I know what he's going to say, and he's a jerk, and he sucks at these things. 0.99

01:42:53.560 I'm not going to talk to my friend because he's 60 years old. 1.00

01:42:56.960 He's been a bachelor his whole life, and he's never had anything good interacting with women.

01:43:02.460 He doesn't know what he's doing.

01:43:03.140 or i'm not going to talk to my dad because he'll tell you i told you so and i told you

01:43:08.740 there's plenty of reasons not to go to different persons and i don't ever want to bring the gods

01:43:16.500 down to our level but we need to start at our level on our logic of how we understand the

01:43:23.860 gods are at the very least they are sentient willful individual beings that exist and that

01:43:32.260 that have agency. More than that, they are at least the very best of people. They are much

01:43:40.220 more than that, but as a starting point, they are that. There are gods that have

01:43:48.080 similarities or seemingly overlapping areas of expertise. There are gods that you might

01:44:01.280 have developed a more personal connection with than you have to others on their end like you

01:44:08.500 feel there is a connection there there may be gods that you feel more comfortable approaching

01:44:14.580 all of those things factor in so yeah and i'm glad you did pick up on that yes in this

01:44:22.220 in this piece it does give you like pro tip this is a good god to talk to about this thing 1.00

01:44:28.140 Ah, you know, Freya really likes love songs.

01:44:32.900 Ah, well, if you, you know, I wouldn't ask Tear, Tear's not a reconciler of men.

01:44:40.780 These are points of collected knowledge of our folk in interacting with these deities over, you know, over centuries, over time, over experience.

01:44:52.580 so it's not wrong to each reach out to any of them unless we have something that's specifically

01:45:00.100 offensive it is specifically not something to talk to them about it's more that this is typical

01:45:08.100 for this situation or the collective folk memory tells us that this god is good to approach about

01:45:16.380 this issue. They have specialties, but that doesn't mean they have no efficacy in those

01:45:22.780 things. You're like, help, Matt, I cut off my arm. I can do stuff for you. I'm not a surgeon. I'm not

01:45:28.560 a doctor. I can tie my belt around it. And, you know, for an emergency, I can burn it on the stove

01:45:34.780 and say that I'm cauterizing it. I can do stuff to greater or lesser degree. These are gods.

01:45:41.720 So they're, you know, the things that they are deficient at are things they are infinitely better at than us people are.

01:45:53.800 But that's that part of the question.

01:45:56.340 Part of the question about the relationship between Lord Odin and Lord Tyr in terms of battle.

01:46:02.920 it's something that's been talked about uh a lot over

01:46:11.100 over the years and i've heard a lot of different you know ideas on it as like

01:46:18.740 you know odin being god of the individual warrior of the war band and tear being the

01:46:25.740 out of like the army or the like bigger bigger picture conflict um

01:46:35.980 i've heard a variety of different things and i've also known um different combat veterans

01:46:42.540 that say diametrically different things about you know who which of the two called upon in

01:46:50.460 different scenarios and why and so i think there's there's a lot of a lot of wiggle room on that

01:46:58.460 um there's a book by steven paulington called the english warrior and it talks about different

01:47:06.460 different animal cults and their possible you know bigger religious associations for ancient uh

01:47:14.940 uh, specifically ancient English warriors, but also just in the Germanic world in general,

01:47:21.840 um, you get a little bit of that in

01:47:25.540 the one-eyed God, I believe as well. Um, so I think it,

01:47:34.500 I think it depends. Um, yeah, I think it really depends on the circumstance. I think that

01:47:44.700 the greater turning of purposes and of the big picture I think tier is good that way

01:47:56.940 I think the individual like I said earlier I think the individual lawyer that were the war band

01:48:04.780 is something that traditionally is more

01:48:10.780 immediately relevant to the all-father um i think the fact that he selects and then

01:48:21.160 entertains or sees to the entertainment of the individual lawyer the einherja is

01:48:28.360 significant but i don't think that precludes the others in either of those situations and i also

01:48:38.080 think some things are about motivation there's fighting for greater cause and for you know big

01:48:44.880 big cause big picture things and sometimes there's fighting because you know these guys

01:48:51.160 are in the other team and we got to go do what we got to do i think those are a little bit different

01:48:56.140 as well um but again i don't want to get out of my lane i've never um i've never been in life or

01:49:04.780 death combat on that in that kind of a situation i've certainly never been in the military so i

01:49:10.460 think different people different things i know again like i say i know veterans that have said

01:49:16.620 um you know each of them but for different reasons so i don't think there's a perfect

01:49:22.460 answer to that but like i'd say if i've got something to say i think big picture cause

01:49:29.020 um the justice of like nations and things tier i think individual battle prowess group stuff

01:49:39.020 small group stuff odin but again i don't think there's i think there are a lot of right answers

01:49:45.340 to that what else we got uh is there any legitimacy to the notion uh tear

01:49:59.900 was a god related to the thing yeah absolutely yes that's why that's why the romans called him

01:50:07.500 mars thingus um his invocation at the all thing i think is a is a relevant thing him being

01:50:22.540 you know presiding in that and being called upon for

01:50:29.740 that kind of a big picture gathering of the tribe or of the nation i think is

01:50:35.980 i think lends some understanding of the role that our ancestors saw on him i do absolutely think

01:50:42.540 that he had a very significant role that is not reflected um large scale enough in the in the

01:50:51.180 norse material that's made that it's made it to us i think that at earlier stages of our folk his

01:50:57.260 his prominence was understood to a much greater degree um do you have anything to add on that

01:51:03.260 one yeah actually um one thing that i always kind of pose when this subject comes up is

01:51:11.420 what about the thing outside of east or iceland and a lot of folks don't conceptualize that the

01:51:18.940 thing or the teen uh is across the board for most germanic folk and the norse and what it is in

01:51:29.340 relation in iceland there's no kings it's a it's a council so the thing has um a variation to it

01:51:38.060 but before iceland the thing was still very important and it was about the taxes to the king

01:51:49.100 there was landowners and chieftains and they would go there and this wasn't so much like a festival

01:51:57.820 where you could sell your goods or uh something to figure out oh you know this guy is encroaching 0.98

01:52:05.340 on my land that is actually kind of offshoots of what a thing is and the icelanders brought it with

01:52:15.420 them and it just morphed because their governmental view of things was different than what they had

01:52:24.060 come from but uh they're the folk thing or folk ting the store ting in norway there's the log ting

01:52:32.140 and uh the land sting even in greenland um and what this really was was justice by adjudication

01:52:42.060 justice by governance it was not so much cases or uh you know getting a chance to kind of

01:52:52.380 hang out with people those are side effects to getting together the whole point of it was the

01:52:57.660 king or the lord or a group of uh land owners and and folk that had memorized the law were getting

01:53:09.420 together and setting governance and putting things aright because they knew they had to repeatedly

01:53:19.900 do this or things would slip into anarchy. So calling upon Lord Tyr in that sense,

01:53:31.700 that's kind of what I was hinting to with not so much the God of justice and

01:53:38.780 get me out of a parking ticket was funny. No, this is more about the justice of governance

01:53:48.040 And an understanding that stability and that right action keeps people in good foundational sense, which is the proto like wording for nation.

01:54:05.860 Um, and so I absolutely think that, uh, Lord Tyr is the, the God of, um, the thing or the, the council or the great assembly. Also, he's referred to as, uh, the Lord of the, or the protectors or Lord of the temples.

01:54:26.020 And I think, again, this goes back to not only is it Lord Tyr, but also Lord Thor. He's referred to as Ve-ur, the strength of the temple.

01:54:41.860 I feel like this presents support in the tripartite as you notice it specifically with Lord Tyr and Lord Thor that there is this sanctifying of and protection of and power of the temple, the divine connection that comes with them.

01:55:09.040 That pinnacles up to Lord Odin, the master of mysteries, like spirit and ecstasy and the things beyond the physical.

01:55:25.880 But Al-Syrgo, they brought up that great point.

01:55:28.720 There is a podium, I guess is the right word, that was found in England, utilized by the Roman soldiers that were there, and it specifically mentions Tir as the Mars thingus, whereas we also see it in connection to the rune poems in Iceland.

01:55:56.060 and so I think it's just that people have a misconception about what a thing is and they

01:56:02.760 don't ever think of it outside of an Icelandic frame very very important all the way back I

01:56:10.560 think even Tacitus when he speaks about how they're able to carry weapons in front of the king

01:56:16.900 I think he was witnessing or at least accounting a thing

01:56:23.320 so a lot of that has to do with uh power i think the power of kings i think that our ancestors

01:56:34.400 uh denoted themselves back to the gods in many different lands uh sweden of course lord frere

01:56:43.280 the anglo-saxons lord odin and i think too it could be easily said and with lord thor and lord

01:56:52.820 tier uh i don't think that any if i was to promote this idea that it would somehow make an affront

01:57:00.980 to lord oh then because obviously we see it with lord fray and no one bats an eye um but these

01:57:07.540 connections to governance and uh kingdom and ensuring that everything is running uh properly

01:57:17.780 because the moment something kind of falls off or shifts it starts a domino effect and eventually

01:57:24.740 you have to write it and you can write it or it could spill out and fester depending on i guess

01:57:31.620 the nature of your people but yeah there you have it um

01:57:41.060 is there afa supporters in the state of maine folk builders too there's not a folk builder

01:57:53.120 in maine at present but we have had folk builders in maine in the past we do in fact have members

01:58:01.120 in maine now maine is a pretty big state for east coast um east coast geography

01:58:11.560 Nearest folk builder we have is Ron Boardman in New Hampshire.

01:58:19.080 And he does do, every couple months, he does do a moot in Maine.

01:58:25.520 Yeah, he goes up in the Maine.

01:58:27.200 That's true.

01:58:28.500 And Jordan Wardrobe has talked about coming down from.

01:58:33.620 Okay, so I lied to you.

01:58:35.480 I'm sorry.

01:58:36.580 That is not the closest.

01:58:38.640 You mentioned Jordan.

01:58:39.920 he is a folk builder i was looking the wrong direction he's a folks builder in new brunswick

01:58:44.000 canada and he is like almost on the border with maine on that side of the state and then i lied

01:58:50.880 to you again uh because i was going to mention all of the new hampshire ones we have three folk

01:58:56.080 builders in new hampshire we have tyler saugert we have ron boardman as i mentioned and we have

01:59:06.080 angela robichard and she is technically closer but just by a little bit

01:59:13.280 but yeah we've got folk builders on either side of you and we do have members in maine

01:59:18.480 in case that is useful to you um actually i just remembered angela will be moving to

01:59:26.720 uh maine pretty soon she actually bought a house there you go so we're we're fixing to have a

01:59:33.200 folk builder in a relatively short order so i'm glad that you asked and nick thank you for the intel

01:59:40.960 um yes fawn let's go ahead and go into uh of bragi and iduna all right of bragi and idun

01:59:57.600 one is called bragi he is renowned for wisdom and most all for fluency of speech and the skill

02:00:06.960 with words he knows most of all scholarship and after him scholarship is called braga

02:00:17.040 and from his name that one is called a braga man or braga woman who possesses eloquence

02:00:24.960 surpassing others, of women or of men. His wife is Idun. She guards in her chest of ash,

02:00:38.160 the sacred wood, those apples which the gods must taste whensoever they grow old. And then

02:00:46.000 they all become young, and so it shall be even unto the doom of the gods.

02:00:52.480 Then said Gangliri, a very great thing, methinks, the gods entrust to the watchfulness and the good faith of Idun.

02:01:02.840 Then said Haur, laughing loudly,

02:01:06.700 T'was being desperate once, I may be able to tell thee of it, but now thou shalt first hear more of the names of the Aesir.

02:01:17.040 So he's referring, obviously, to the abduction of Idun.

02:01:22.480 um and i just wanted to kind of we were talking about the four points of divinity and one of the

02:01:28.960 big ones that i kind of focus in on and we you know the discussion i'm working actually on a

02:01:35.680 presentation of um is that we see uh sound and light repetitively connected to the gods and

02:01:46.400 i've been uh the merging of uh bragi and idun i believe has great significance even in the very

02:01:56.800 fabric of our reality when we're speaking about sound and light uh sound waves light waves and um

02:02:05.520 what constitutes that and i think that um the gods are of that i think that bragi and idun

02:02:14.800 are formulized sound and light and um i don't think it's a coincidence that divinity ex is uh

02:02:26.320 a showing of light we see it with lord baldur we see it with delinger um we see light is and gold

02:02:36.480 always kind of constituted with exuding power so if you see references to gold or to light

02:02:44.880 there is this sense of exuding power it often depends on where it is um heimdall that has

02:02:52.400 golden teeth there's an exuding power of authority or speech there um we see uh holy freya has

02:03:01.680 golden hair or sif has golden hair and again this is very much like a same as putting wings on the

02:03:09.200 helmet an elevated mind um an emanating power of of of the mind or the will and we see this with

02:03:19.360 um holy even a common thing that you will see in all aryan branches is that the gods 0.90

02:03:25.680 are sustained by this glint or glimmer, this ultra rare or extremely finite and fragile thread 0.93

02:03:40.280 that holds them to maintaining their course. Of course, in our stories, it translates to

02:03:47.480 when they grow old, they eat the apples and they are immortal. And if they didn't have the apples,

02:03:53.220 They would just simply die. But on a cosmic level, we're looking at it as, you know, these great beings are still required to formulate and cultivate the essence that keeps them going.

02:04:15.260 And I think that that's very important because like I was talking about before with nature and things, the multiplicity or speaking to your friends or certain different people after an event, nature works in multiplicity and nature is a reflection of the divine.

02:04:34.460 The divine works in multiplicity. And more so than that is that the fact that divinity also is not just completely disconnected from the cycles of the universe, you know, to have gods that do not fear means that you have gods that cannot be brave.

02:04:59.340 because again bravery and fear are intimately connected and and life and death life and death

02:05:08.740 for a god is i think very different than for us but the element of truth is still there and so

02:05:16.360 we find ourselves that uh christianity has made omnipotence so prevalent that it becomes

02:05:26.080 abstraction. And by the time that their religion reached the Greeks, the Greek philosophers

02:05:33.420 opened up the door for total abstraction. And, you know, faceless, nameless, sure, God, but

02:05:44.380 it was very important for them to humanize, because I think it was spinning so far out of

02:05:52.680 control with this disconnected sense and still ultimately leads to that with many philosophies

02:05:59.540 of materialism kind of rejecting the omnipotence of one nameless, faceless, all present thing

02:06:07.980 when they try to look at, well, you know, why is the evil here? And, you know, in the book of

02:06:15.480 Job, he's arm in arm with evil.

02:06:19.460 Sure, you know, they're sitting at the bar saying,

02:06:21.840 go have Adam, two sides to the same coin.

02:06:25.740 These concepts are very different

02:06:27.640 than the way that we believe in divinity.

02:06:30.640 The folk, you know, believing in divinity

02:06:33.620 and knowing that the nature of all things

02:06:37.860 outside of simply the primordial substrate is precious.

02:06:43.540 It has a need to rise above, even against fear of its own obliteration, and also to love and to procreate, even though, again, it's all very different than the way we would conventionally think of this.

02:07:06.120 But all of these things need to happen. Otherwise, you have this nameless, faceless entity. And I think that that ends up leading people into obliteration.

02:07:22.960 they just can't conceptualize they can't relate and they don't understand uh well the the arian

02:07:31.120 gods in any branch that you look at whether it's the ambrosia or the soma um or the apples

02:07:39.200 and and apples are so significant that they changed that in the bible because the bible mentions fruit

02:07:47.280 not apples apples were so intrinsic to the europeans especially the northern europeans

02:07:52.320 that the apple became the symbol from even for the Old Testament or the Torah.

02:07:58.920 And that significance of its holiness, its fruition is so powerful.

02:08:07.740 So it would not be lost in the context here that the apple represents,

02:08:13.580 especially it's a fruit that is born right before winter.

02:08:18.220 So the ultimate giving is things are about to get bad, things are about to get hard, and here we go. We're going to give you this bounty right before the desolation.

02:08:31.080 And so this benevolent tree and fruit is, I don't think, chosen by accident. But I think that it's analogous to light and ultimately to pure purity.

02:08:45.460 What makes divinity divine as opposed to, say, like the Jotunar, who I think are kind of benders of time?

02:08:55.600 And we see this with Thor in Jotunheim, whereas the gods are not benders of time, but they are imbuing themselves with a purity that keeps them.

02:09:09.800 And I think that is very similar to us as humans trying to always go forward and upward, even though we may fall away, our generations that follow us benefit in that kind of immortality.

02:09:27.580 So I think that's very unique. And then when we go into the concept of that purity being light and Bragi being sound, and if you go down the rabbit hole of sound waves and photons and stuff, that's what I mean by that fourth pillar of cosmic exploration of relationship with the gods.

02:09:52.640 You can have the story relationship. You can have the environmental. You can have the intrinsic or how you are socially. And then there's cosmic is the big one. And I'm sure there's more. I just do that for my own sanity.

02:10:10.960 But these are kind of some of the things that I think our church uniquely is doing, that when you look around, no one else is doing this.

02:10:20.460 No one else is talking about this, or they're just not in the same mind frame.

02:10:24.680 And our church is honestly coming forward and then turning around and telling the folk, this is what we have been thinking about and working with.

02:10:34.120 And these are our relationships, which makes us wholly unique from anyone else and why I think it's so important for folk to listen to these podcasts.

02:10:47.240 I know they can be long, but there's grains of truth and thought that you can follow.

02:10:56.320 And we're doing it honestly, earnestly, and with absolute genuineness.

02:11:01.820 And anyone that tells you otherwise is, well, they're not actually being genuine at all.

02:11:08.340 But, you know, these concepts we should think about when we think about our gods.

02:11:17.320 Let me get a question here before we get into the next section.

02:11:24.000 So this question kind of comes up to an earlier.

02:11:28.580 This is related to some earlier discussion.

02:11:30.920 Is it appropriate to address the gods

02:11:33.420 With Latin names

02:11:35.060 Not all the time of course

02:11:37.160 But on occasion I do like to address

02:11:39.420 Odin as Mercurius

02:11:41.320 Germanicus

02:11:42.200 Or address

02:11:45.420 Tyr as Mars Tyr

02:11:47.480 No but I don't think it's the worst thing

02:11:57.500 In the universe

02:11:58.240 So, you'll notice in the Tacitus section that Svan talked about earlier, he didn't try to combine them.

02:12:19.840 He saw, oh, this must be Mercury, this must be Mars, this must be Hercules.

02:12:31.900 Okay, so they called him Mars of the thing.

02:12:36.320 They didn't try to combine the two.

02:12:39.160 Oh, this, okay, this is a reflection of our God Mars.

02:12:44.780 So I would call him Mars as related to the Mars activity, kind of like, you know, Oku-Thor or Ving-Thor or something that adds up what Thor is doing or an element of something that he has title over.

02:13:06.300 And you mentioned earlier that, you know, or over in the chat that it gets confusing.

02:13:11.020 Well, it does and needlessly so.

02:13:13.520 one of the things if you read kind of the the opening paragraph of the true love novel

02:13:18.560 it talks about why we do things in a german in a norse nomenclature

02:13:27.040 it's to make it all fit and make sense you know i saw kind of a back and forth in the chat

02:13:32.720 It is hard. So Thor is Thunor, is Donar. Absolutely. That's very obvious. Thor is Perun. Also true, but the differences start to show a little bit and the overlap shows a little bit.

02:13:57.560 When you start like, is Thor Hercules? Is Thor Zeus? Is Thor what?

02:14:03.760 When you go down in the Mediterranean, the things get less clean.

02:14:09.380 So this is a question a lot of people ask.

02:14:13.040 Our gods are the gods that shaped our race of people since the birth of our race of people.

02:14:21.900 Since at least the last ice age and probably much before.

02:14:27.560 these gods are our gods the gods were with us we were with them we had one

02:14:36.800 understanding of who they are and who we were over time our people traveled

02:14:44.880 widely over Asia and Europe and the area in between. As they did over time, we didn't have

02:14:59.840 the internet to keep in touch, so we were separated by great distance. We were separated

02:15:05.500 by great amounts of time. One group would settle in a valley somewhere and not interact with

02:15:12.120 You know, they're distant cousins for hundreds of years sometimes.

02:15:21.180 As language and culture changed, and importantly, as the relationship between different groups of our folk and the gods changed,

02:15:33.260 over time the names took on a local form the stories and the lore begin to take

02:15:43.020 their own shape and evolve with the relationship between those people and the gods

02:15:51.180 it's interesting to note that the iranians and the irish both their nations mean land of the

02:15:57.900 Arians on the farthest fringes of people that have no point of contact they both held to these

02:16:06.220 ancient customs in different ways so those variants get really different depending on

02:16:16.380 where you're at at some point but the gods don't change they didn't go to a different place and

02:16:21.900 all of a sudden you know every time they decide okay guys our language is getting funky it's

02:16:26.860 different than what our grandpas we're not going to speak you know west germanic anymore now we're

02:16:35.820 speaking norse okay cool the gods split into two different groups of gods that's not how it works

02:16:43.420 logic doesn't bear that out these are the same gods but if you try to account for all of the

02:16:50.940 nuance and all of the differences and unravel all of the mysteries of you know what these gods look

02:16:58.700 like in vedic india versus what they look like in celtic ireland and drive yourself insane

02:17:07.740 taking you know scattered bits from all of those and trying to force them together

02:17:13.260 keeps us stuck spinning our wheels so we pick the thing that is the best preserved

02:17:23.340 that is the most complete and that resonates with our folk but more importantly

02:17:30.040 the understanding of divinity that was presented to our founder steve mcnalen when

02:17:39.500 he personally had a relationship established between himself and the all-father the all-father

02:17:47.580 that set in motion what we do today and how we do it and in order to make those pieces work

02:17:57.880 together and fit most ordered and most perfectly we unify our practice under

02:18:05.760 Under the Norse conception of deity, under the Norse corpus of lore, and under the Norse naming structure.

02:18:15.420 So while I'm fairly confident that Mars equals Tyr, we're practicing Alcetru, we just call him Tyr.

02:18:31.240 Again, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world.

02:18:33.380 if you're wrong

02:18:40.400 it's a confusing faux pas

02:18:42.360 if you're right

02:18:45.200 and you call him Bruce Wayne Batman

02:18:48.820 I don't think that hurts his feelings

02:18:51.940 but it's awkward

02:18:53.060 and it makes the most sense

02:18:55.640 to unify what we do

02:18:57.180 under the Norse tongue

02:18:58.840 and the Norse expression

02:18:59.900 of these gods

02:19:02.040 that's where the pieces fit best together when we find other pieces that don't fit as perfectly we

02:19:08.760 move them into that orbit as opposed to um get lost and tangled up in the diversity of it we

02:19:18.360 move that into the order of the ic in the norse nomenclature there uh there's even mention in

02:19:27.480 In the Gilvikining, where it says that Lord Oðinn, when they're describing Lord Oðinn,

02:19:34.840 it says in days of old, he was called Volðinn or Volðinn and now is called Oðinn.

02:19:42.060 And there's kind of this drive to, again, speak in the present sense of the gods.

02:19:50.520 And I think that that's really a huge motivator or a good kind of difference between you are trying to organize without confusion because I know a lot of people get confused and there's all this kind of separation.

02:20:11.260 there's all these variations and people kind of trying to do their own things and and i can't

02:20:17.340 connect with the gods unless i can call him godin because i've got three percent burgundy and

02:20:23.580 in my dna that stuff keeps us yeah like you said spinning our wheels people got to get over it a

02:20:30.620 lot of people well i can't do it unless i do it this way well then you need to fix that you know

02:20:38.860 our people are very resistant to that but we need to come to the gods on their terms not

02:20:45.660 force them to accept our terms that's not what worship is about could have gone a bunch of

02:20:52.300 different ways um this could have been done as you know whatever is celtic as druidry it could

02:21:03.660 have happened as you know um hellenism or it could have happened a bunch of different ways

02:21:10.780 it did happen as ousatru it is happening as ousatru so that's what we're doing and why we're

02:21:19.420 bringing it all together and a question just on side it mentions you know points of again

02:21:24.460 when you get into the mediterranean the the it gets mixed it gets reshuffled in a different way

02:21:33.660 But he mentions that Apollo has wolves and ravens that are sacred to him.

02:21:39.680 The question that a lot of the art around the gods reflects the people and the environment they're in.

02:21:50.000 If our people forgot and we had lost our sacred lore and we found, you know, what would the Afrikaners, what animal is sacred to Odin in South Africa, what would that look like?

02:22:11.580 and it's rhetorical i can't tell you but it would be really interesting if

02:22:17.800 it was the you know the zebra and the hyena

02:22:21.280 um or whatever but when we go different places a lot of those associations have been on where

02:22:30.740 our people land where our people colonize where our people conquer where our people are at but

02:22:36.780 our folk have spread around the globe to all the corners of the earth and our gods are just as

02:22:44.060 relevant there as they are in you know ancient norway or the caspian stuff um it's fun let's

02:22:55.820 talk about Heimdottler.

02:23:00.100 Okay. Of Heimdottler.

02:23:04.140 Heimdottler is the name of

02:23:07.320 one. He is called the White God. He is 1.00

02:23:11.580 great and holy. Nine maidens, all sisters, bore 0.80

02:23:15.600 him for a son. He is called

02:23:19.000 Hallenskidi and Gulintani. His teeth

02:23:23.660 We're all gold. And his horse is called Gold Topper or Golden Top. He dwells in the place called Himenbjörg or Heavenly Mountains. But in this case, I think specifically it's the castle on top of the mountain.

02:23:41.880 um hard by bivrost he is the warder of the gods and sits there by heaven's end to guard the bridge

02:23:53.000 from the hill giants he needs less sleep than a bird he sees equally well at night as in day

02:24:01.280 a hundred leagues from him and hears now grass grow on the earth or wool upon the sheep

02:24:08.140 and everything that has a louder sound.

02:24:12.220 He has the trumpet, which is called Gjallarhorn.

02:24:16.800 And its blast is heard throughout all the worlds.

02:24:21.640 Heimdall's sword is called Heed.

02:24:25.020 It is said further.

02:24:29.120 Himenbjörg is called where Heimdall,

02:24:32.260 they say I, has his housing.

02:24:35.000 There, the god's sentinel drinks in his snug hall gladly good mead, and furthermore, he himself says in Heimdallrgaldr, I am of nine, mothers the offspring, of sisters nine, I am the son.

02:24:56.760 so a couple things uh one it really that when we talk about cosmology and the way that people

02:25:07.200 kind of portray cosmology versus how ancestral the idea of the heavenly world being on top of

02:25:17.260 mountains and that at the edge of the mountains there is this snug keep uh a bjarke is kind of

02:25:26.100 like a keep, almost a castle. And there he keeps vigilance. It's the watchtower on the top of the

02:25:33.920 of the hill. I think it's extremely beautiful and poetic. You know, our ancestors believing

02:25:43.040 that the gods were center and above in this mountainous place where Ithaval is and Yggdrasil

02:25:50.580 is and um and that the way to attain access to this place is not easy it's not given to everyone

02:25:57.700 it's limited it's the the shimmering bridge uh that doesn't just stay open for everyone um

02:26:07.220 but on top of this it also shows a couple of other things we were talking about gold before

02:26:13.380 an emanation when we uh obviously gullin top the gold top horse that the vehicle every time

02:26:21.140 you see a horse that's the vehicle which means um that the god has maneuverability within the world

02:26:30.580 the ability to travel and again it's kind of symbolic in uh the idea so lord heimdall is i

02:26:39.300 I don't think, simply designated to one place.

02:26:44.480 And so he couldn't have come down

02:26:47.040 and met great-grandfather and great-grandmother.

02:26:49.940 And that's really Lord Odin.

02:26:52.140 I've seen people try to make that stretch.

02:26:55.220 I think that whenever we do see horses,

02:26:59.260 those are vehicles.

02:27:02.160 But the other thing is the gold teeth, 0.70

02:27:07.620 the emanation of power from the mouth um i think is another interesting point also the white god

02:27:17.220 or the white house and he specifically comes down and shapes the folk uh through generational as

02:27:26.700 they if they accept him which they do then he generationally improves them um so he takes on

02:27:35.600 kind of promethean um sense where uh the runes are taught to the folk through heimdall and there is

02:27:47.520 also another interesting aspect is the the being born of the waves um so oftentimes in uh

02:27:57.920 amongst some of the Gothar, we talk about the light, the gold, the emanation of Lord Heimdallar,

02:28:05.600 the flame upon the waves is the point that's kind of brought out. And we see this actually

02:28:14.060 in other Aryan branches, the idea of a flame born or brought about upon waves. But what it does

02:28:20.840 do is it shows two things one that heimdoller's origin being that of the middle world and also

02:28:30.580 from the outer to the inner coming from the outer edges of the nine waves of the of the watery realm

02:28:40.120 and coming to the center and upward and being the focal point of entry into the heavenly realm

02:28:48.700 um i think is it's beautiful and poetic in the way that uh the stories show movement without

02:28:56.980 outright saying it but um as he does he is able to um hear and see which connects him in a kind of

02:29:09.460 one foot in the divine and one foot in uh the material and so one of the things uh like in the

02:29:18.900 iron mark calendar saturday is uh referenced as heimdall's day a kind of a returning uh back to

02:29:28.800 the cycle a grounding and a maintenance of that um i think it's kind of closely related to uh

02:29:38.480 saturn and the idea of chronos and and time but you know we see uh heimdoller as

02:29:49.200 when we do bloat and we light the flame the the the first of the gods to witness

02:29:55.600 anything we do is the watchman and the the gifts that he gave us you know giving us

02:30:03.920 fire and giving us the knowledge to better ourselves um in every generation so we often say

02:30:13.120 you know to him the first gift and uh it's um smoke or or incense or fire um and that it's a

02:30:22.000 testament so there's a very real sense of understanding that um heim dollar is deeply

02:30:29.920 connected to our

02:30:31.880 timescale as much as he is

02:30:33.840 to the heavenly scale

02:30:34.960 all right

02:30:40.500 yeah let's

02:30:51.300 let's keep

02:30:55.820 moving a little bit

02:30:57.840 um sorry i'm just thinking of stuff coming up what i okay something that's because we talked about

02:31:07.440 uh overlap between uh roman deities the picture for this shows uh for this broadcast which i

02:31:16.800 always thought was interesting is uh hemdogler with uh mercury accoutrement um in that uh

02:31:27.760 Icelandic manuscript that I like. So I think that, you know, even where it appears kind of clean,

02:31:36.640 and there's an academic tradition of associating Odin and Mercury, the folks who illustrated this,

02:31:44.800 you know, variable manuscript took it a different direction, which is interesting.

02:31:51.680 I think it goes into some chat on the side. Nick, do you have the original picture you can throw up?

02:31:57.760 um i think on a good side it shows the interconnected interconnectivity of the

02:32:10.700 arian gods um despite different cultures i think there he is good wings on his shoes

02:32:19.520 wings on his hat, the caedosis staff in his hand, but he's blowing the gyalur horn.

02:32:31.600 I've always found that interesting. I find the illustrations in this manuscript just fascinating

02:32:37.920 in general. So there's that. Well, and I think too, it is the benchmark of Hellenic

02:32:47.680 um divinity uh in relation to the the western world you can see it hearkening back you see

02:32:55.600 that the gods are given like weapons of the age like a falchion but they're also given

02:33:01.360 accoutrements that are clearly hellenic in nature and what you said earlier the gods and our our

02:33:10.480 folk were one and have since varied themselves the folk have but the gods still remain and so

02:33:20.560 when we see these kind of crossovers it's to me i take it in a positive sense that it it shows um

02:33:27.360 that interconnectivity between our people when you see uh images like of perun or in the road

02:33:34.880 in Ukraine, and you see Petrun and Lord Thor, like, couldn't quite tell the difference.

02:33:45.520 I find that kind of endearing.

02:33:49.880 All right. Let's keep going.

02:33:53.480 All right. So, obviously, in our list, there shall not be a temple, and here is the reason

02:34:03.800 why. One of the Aesir who is named Hader, he is blind, he is of sufficient strength, but the gods

02:34:12.640 would desire that no occasion should rise of the naming of this god, for the work of his hands

02:34:21.560 shall long be held in memory amongst the gods and men. Clearly we're speaking about the death

02:34:30.580 of balder and even though the onus of aggression should be laid upon the the kinslayer it is 0.96

02:34:41.300 still done by uh hother's hands and what we end up seeing is an elimination of the 0.88

02:34:52.740 brother killing brother at foreigner's hand or discretion, I should say. And that the brother 0.96

02:35:03.040 ends up being kind of taken down, even though it was, oh, you know, the circumstance, it's like,

02:35:15.500 no, the deed. And that's an interesting kind of philosophical point is circumstance to deed.

02:35:22.740 And I think it's more a sharper learning curve in the realm of the divine.

02:35:33.040 I think that folk work in varied ways, but with the gods, this balance, this shift that was made created and caused great effects.

02:35:47.880 Just like the slaying of Ymir, creation and the binding of the Nornir to all things. 0.70

02:35:58.740 And in this case, too, the slaying, the interaction with the kinslayer, the foreign element of the gods coming in and trying to twist the situation. 0.91

02:36:13.400 But still the deed that was done and the creation of one of our holy gods in the list, the god of correcting the scales, Lord Vowley.

02:36:27.680 But obviously, Hodor is not mentioned.

02:36:33.660 He's not given credence.

02:36:37.320 and it's i've seen some modern people on the internet try to say like oh you know the gods

02:36:43.720 are just so mean and uh you know he just couldn't help it he was uh blind and they they go into this

02:36:53.260 kind of feminization of justice and in the divine sense and even in our ancient society sense it's

02:37:01.660 like the deed is still done and doesn't absolve someone from the punishment in equilibrium 0.75

02:37:10.440 simply because you know i guess it's because he's disabled and that's an ableist you know 0.66

02:37:19.020 that kind of stuff i think is very very bluntly in their faces sometimes i wonder how they work 0.81

02:37:28.820 their way around with their crazy kind of modern political notions when so clearly

02:37:36.020 deed despite disability does not equate to like being let off um true equality if you will

02:37:47.700 um and it's very brief and we move to uh section 29 and again i think it's interesting of course

02:38:00.280 of hodder hodder is mentioned and then the the following ouse are mentioned and i think with

02:38:07.640 good reason in correlation so 29 of vidar is the name of one the silent god he has a thick shoe

02:38:20.360 he is nearly as strong as thor in him the gods have great trust in all struggles

02:38:27.320 so a lot of people kind of wonder about or think about or even scoff at the notion of like the big

02:38:33.320 shoe but i think it's worth noting that when he rips fenris wolf asunder he is becoming

02:38:41.400 an axis mundi he's becoming stasis he's becoming um the uh the pillar uh that

02:38:50.360 breaks chaos from consumption and the big shoe i think is more indicative of a meta symbolic

02:39:00.360 foundation the strong foundation um and he becomes this pillar amidst the fall um and from that

02:39:12.460 moment on there's a turn and suddenly order is uh able to to uh turn the corner it's not just

02:39:25.660 chaos reigning and and that is all in vidar um the silent uh generally that's the view uh is that

02:39:35.260 he says little and waits for his moment so we see with vidar and valley and even with the mention

02:39:43.820 of father we have deed and then we have correction we have correction in the long run and correction

02:39:51.900 immediately and i don't think that these are things that we should overlook

02:39:57.180 vidar i often us in my interpretations and relationship with him view vidar as the lord of

02:40:06.940 long devotion long dedication um attaining understanding through um test or trial over time

02:40:18.220 and the the idea that um you know again most people just view like oh that's after ragnarok

02:40:28.540 or what have you i think that there is that quiet contemplation that sturdiness that discipline

02:40:35.420 um that is worth dedicating that relationship to lord vidar the silence the sitting still

02:40:43.820 the thinking about and observing feeling everything about your life observing everything

02:40:51.420 about your life and and trying to implement right action over long periods of time i think the

02:40:58.380 mystery of vidar is even more expansive despite the small amount that we get here

02:41:07.180 yeah i think that's something

02:41:08.380 One thing that has already become apparent with the five Hoffs that we have now is as we have Hoffs dedicated to these gods,

02:41:27.340 we are able to really develop a deeper understanding and deeper relationship between us and them.

02:41:41.620 And I think Hoffs to lesser-known gods, for gods that there's less war about,

02:41:49.600 opens a special pathway for us to build those relationships.

02:41:55.440 I'm really looking forward to looking forward to all the Hoffs, but I'm looking forward to

02:42:03.120 Vidar's Hoff and Vowley's Hoff and just what establishing Hoff to these particular gods will

02:42:12.160 yield as far as a greater closeness and a greater understanding of them and hopefully blessings

02:42:21.200 and through that that's a really cool thing um that we've seen with lord balder at baldershoff

02:42:31.460 and yeah i'm really looking forward to that i think it's a tremendous opportunity

02:42:37.540 and something that goes a long way to reconnect our folk with their gods

02:42:44.900 so I'm looking forward to that and that's definitely one of these there's there's a few

02:42:52.020 of these gods that we have a very brief snippet we've got a little bit here we've got a little

02:42:57.840 bit and a couple other sources but we don't get the the depth that I wish we had and hopefully

02:43:04.700 we can can rebuild some of that over time relationship I would love to see like a sanctum

02:43:11.080 of silence where, you know, self-contemplation and quietness would be like part of the totality

02:43:18.560 of the Hoff, where that strength, that inner strength coming from self-contemplation.

02:43:30.260 In section 30, we move now to Vaule. So Vidar is corrective action at the right time. Like

02:43:40.340 in Daoism. I think it's called Wu Wei. It's the inaction to the right action at the right time.

02:43:47.280 But then there is Vaoli, who is immediate action. Things are thrown out of the balance and must be

02:43:55.660 corrected. And it is in 30. One is called Auli or Vaoli, son of Odin and Rindr, one of the

02:44:07.520 Oustvenir. He is daring in fights and most fortunate a marksman. And that's kind of all

02:44:15.080 we get. But let's kind of break some of that down. First off, the biggest confusion that I think a

02:44:27.700 lot of people have is the misinterpretation that the Kinslayer has a son named Vaoli.

02:44:37.520 I think that by one simple mistake, they've shifted it off.

02:44:43.320 But that no, in actuality, it is Vowli who turns himself into a wolf and slays the Kinslayer's son because Lord Odin and the Kinslayer, Loki, they are fathers.

02:45:02.420 and one loses the son so the other has to lose his son and i think that you know this is not

02:45:11.840 in painstaking detail but the broad stroke of it is still blood red that the visceral nature of

02:45:18.920 the situation um a lot of people are are like oh well maybe you know there's just double word usage

02:45:25.340 No, you can kind of see where grammatically it gets flipped. And if Vowli is able as a marksman and he brings immediate divine retribution, not only against Hother, but against the kinslayer's own son to bring things into balance in the form of a wolf.

02:45:52.100 you see again this beast bestial nature um but it's honed and it becomes kind of a

02:46:01.180 a concept that i would say is like where you are a wolf head for war but not for peace not for

02:46:09.240 your family you're not a wolf head you know in your garage when your son's trying to learn how

02:46:15.000 to tie his shoes. No, you're a wolf head in its proper time. And so I've often associated Lord 0.99

02:46:22.280 with the wolf head, with the warrior. And I think it is about timing. And a lot of people get that

02:46:33.780 confused or they have this over glorification of the usage of violence and the rectification

02:46:42.480 of in of injustices against say your people um and they get that all wrong and voli really does

02:46:49.340 teach that it is the immediacy but proper alignment of time laid forth and it it's surgical

02:47:00.060 or it's overwhelming and so i think the idea of the difference between the wolf and the bow

02:47:06.860 So for folks like, you know, when we open a Hof to Lord Wawli, these are things that I'm thinking about that I really want to try to incorporate because I feel like there are mysteries there.

02:47:22.860 But the other thing, the Austveneer, Rinder. Rinder means the rind. And this is most likely referring to crust of ice, the rind of ice, since it's used in that context elsewhere.

02:47:40.580 Um, so we see this, um, earth born of the earth and born of the willful nature. So the willful nature combines with the totality of a fleeting element of the earth, the snow, the ice.

02:48:01.780 So it again refers to timing. It refers to like just the right placement of time. And I also find it kind of interesting. I'm not saying that these two have connection. But again, in a world of infinite or law, you know, coincidences, I wonder, are not really always a thing.

02:48:26.140 And so in this case, vengeance or, you know, the revengeance against Hawthorne comes from the goddess of ice or the house veneer of ice and snow.

02:48:41.800 So in essence, yeah, the saying revenge is, you know, best served cold.

02:48:49.120 I find the imagery of Valley is just so visceral and just cool.

02:49:00.060 But he's born and matures to manhood and does the deed before he combs his hair or washes the afterbirth off of him, dripping with gore.

02:49:21.260 he is grown goes out exacts vengeance

02:49:29.580 literally ties loki to the stone with loki's son's own entrails um

02:49:40.220 it's just so visceral and that's an awful picture those pictures are hideous um

02:49:49.340 I think one thing that people should key in on too is because of the immediacy of his action, there's no harboring for hatred, anger.

02:50:03.380 No, he's so immediate that he is absolutely clean in his action. He's not there to contemplate or get angry at Hadar or anything. No, it's so developed in that fast sense that he's just pure in his action. Instant dharma.

02:50:24.220 yeah i there there's such little about um about valley but i think what there is is extremely

02:50:40.220 powerful um swan let's let's do the next two tonight and call it call it a night after the

02:50:53.940 been about Forseti. And this would complete the list of the ouse and the temples. 31 of Ullr.

02:51:08.240 One is called Ullr, son of Sif, stepson of Thor. He is so excellent a bowman and so swift on

02:51:19.760 snowshoes, that none may contend with him. He is also fair of aspect and has accomplishments

02:51:26.100 of a warrior. It is well to call on him in single combats.

02:51:34.140 We've talked about this at Thorshof a lot in relation to Sif and the Siba, or the family, 0.94

02:51:43.300 um the idea of the farm the household but not only that just the uh community the idea of

02:51:53.880 both farming and hunting correlating and into uh the way that they feed and substantiate the home

02:52:04.520 or the group of homes the village the the um the basic connectivity points that we have as

02:52:11.720 as folk especially in elder times um i think you know and that's kind of why leading to those

02:52:19.980 processes one of like hunting farming um and then even with through the being prayed to for good

02:52:28.280 brew because the the farming goes into preservation and and even brewing of alcohol and things of like

02:52:37.260 that is that we clearly see this nexus of good rain and blessed bounty from Lord Thor bringing

02:52:50.680 about an interconnected sense of harvest from the fields, harvest from the forests, and utilizing

02:53:02.140 and prolonging that harvest to benefit the strength of the family so i think that um a lot of people

02:53:10.820 kind of uh toss and turn on this but again when we talk about this is so specific about

02:53:18.980 the son of sif stepson of thor that it throws a lot of people off the the familiar uh nature of

02:53:28.900 the of the gods um i i think that uh perhaps it is more uh symbolic but it is again still

02:53:40.760 interesting and of course we see it being very materially based in these this part of the poem

02:53:47.360 um where they're speaking about gods as if they are just great warriors and um i think that has

02:53:56.680 unfortunately it was showing that decline and separation even at that time but amongst a lot

02:54:05.640 of the folk lord uller is of course prayed to for the hunt um but also for self-protection and

02:54:13.800 ultimately self-reliance so you kind of see these rings of influence where uh folk build their

02:54:20.840 relationships to the gods and it as it spreads out clearly there's interlapping and overlapping

02:54:28.100 of things and and that's okay but we see it's um oftentimes during um house bloat or uh the fall

02:54:36.960 sacrifices or the fall rituals and uh winter finding sometimes uh there is the celebration

02:54:45.160 of the hunter and moving forward into the winter with a focused sense and it's it kind of mirrors

02:54:53.960 uh dis uh disting where um we see you know the focusing forward in the summer tide

02:55:02.260 ullr is the lord of that attainment that focus um i i even talk a lot about how

02:55:10.500 you know being of the gods of natural law one of the interesting things is he is the lord of death

02:55:19.200 but not by natural causes is the balance and the equilibrium in nature that we see when oh you see

02:55:26.120 the cute bunny and then the hawk comes it's not personal the hawk needs to eat so there's these

02:55:33.680 um you know levels of death that we can observe in nature and we see this in the i call him the

02:55:44.560 the shadow between the boughs like the boughs of trees um and he is that that mystery of

02:55:52.480 attainment and being predator and prey and uh you know as it says to call upon him

02:55:59.120 in single combat i've always associated with uh self-defense and um

02:56:07.680 arming one's self against uh to not be prey if you will

02:56:12.800 did i lose you um negative oh okay um so next we move into uh chapter 32

02:56:33.680 The last of the ouse, the 12 ouse, the reason the sun and rod behind the heads of the gods have 12 spokes is in reference to the 12 ouse and their support and dominion over all order.

02:56:54.700 And so number 12 is Forseti.

02:57:01.140 Forseti is the name of the son of Baldur and Nanna, daughter of Nep.

02:57:08.220 He has that hall in heaven, which is called Glitnir, or the shining.

02:57:14.480 All that come to him with such quarrels as arise out of lawsuits.

02:57:21.500 All these return thence reconciled. That is the best seat of judgment amongst gods and men. And thus it is said here, a hall is called Glitnir, with gold it is pillared, and with silver thatched the same, where Forseti bides a full day through and puts to sleep all suits, or cases, if you will.

02:57:51.500 Now, Lord Forseti is, I think, one of, just as much as I allocate Lord Bragi to mathematics, when you think about music and you think about poetry and you think about meter and then you think about numbers and so on, these kind of spheres of influence.

02:58:13.060 One of the other ones that kind of, you know, try to pronounce to people is Lord Forseti is the God of governance and what separates us from the rest of the world.

02:58:31.000 how and why our people have been at the forefront of societies and governments.

02:58:39.580 It's not just pray to Lord Forseti in case or in cases or legalities, which totally can do.

02:58:53.220 But it goes beyond just that.

02:58:55.660 it's the um indications of where uh things end that positive governance negative governance um

02:59:09.740 how we choose to lead ourselves the way that we want to be governed um all of these indications

02:59:16.380 and what drives us is his domain. I love the pictures that are kind of done of Lord Forseti

02:59:27.360 where he is carrying like writs of law. Now, there's another interesting point.

02:59:36.680 Out of the Nordic model, there is also a deep connection, which I think gives credence to the

02:59:45.760 fact that the Norse model is just the best surviving, but is clearly throughout continental

02:59:52.900 Europe, is that there is an island off the coast of Holland that is directly dedicated to Forseti

03:00:03.600 as they took great prominence in worshiping him there, especially in relation to how they would

03:00:13.260 govern the land. They would go there to this neutral place and have to dish out what they 0.60

03:00:20.780 needed to do for the betterment of their countrymen. And there is a whole story

03:00:27.480 outside of the Nordic stories of the 12 councilmen, 12, again, council members of the tribes

03:00:35.980 of the Frisians in Holland, you know, going out. And there is a 13th man who is at the rudder who

03:00:45.160 shows up magically and his rudder is an ax and he comes ashore and he throws the ax and where the

03:00:53.640 ax hits, there is a spring. And there at that spring, he guides the 12 to correct law. And so

03:01:01.760 the double-headed axe and the water or fountain spring are deeply connected. And I think the

03:01:10.600 double-headed axe is also very poignant. Obviously, we know historically not a huge

03:01:16.920 actual viable weapon utilized in war, but certainly seen in ceremonial context. And I think

03:01:25.560 it's the the blade that cuts either way is a just blade a blade that does not favor one side or the

03:01:34.560 other so you know the that it's kind of the same as as as we use the the monitor the money scales

03:01:43.420 um in modern day uh legal systems but i find that imagery very very interesting and for for folks

03:01:51.960 you know who might be interested definitely look it up on on wikipedia and there are other parts

03:01:57.580 that will take you to about the island um i even have a client who's from holland and uh he was

03:02:05.440 like oh yeah i remember all of this he's he's not how it's true but he he he all of a sudden was

03:02:11.680 like yes i i remember this is your religion and i i remember you know being taught this when i was a

03:02:18.280 did and it's like again that interconnectivity between the germanic folk and even beyond but

03:02:27.480 this is one case that's crystal clear all right well so we have one more thing i want to

03:02:36.360 address tonight it's a conversation point over in the chat room um

03:02:42.920 um from marvin there are three options this is talking about trying to make sense of the

03:02:56.440 different the norse versus the hellenic pantheon of gods

03:03:04.360 there are three options either one of the pantheons is a misunderstanding of the gods

03:03:09.320 or both pantheons are true

03:03:12.500 and one set of gods is subservient to the other,

03:03:17.900 in the latter case, we must assume

03:03:20.360 that either there is a hierarchy of gods

03:03:22.760 or the gods have jurisdiction over different peoples

03:03:25.860 in different regions Midgard.

03:03:28.760 Otherwise, it doesn't have any sense.

03:03:32.340 So those are two options.

03:03:39.320 And I think you were right in that there are three options.

03:03:44.400 Maybe option three is our understanding of divinity is imperfect because we are people trying to understand the you.

03:03:58.660 Oftentimes, very subtle messaging of the divine in our lives to the best of our abilities.

03:04:05.060 And we're trying to equate grand cosmic forces and grand cosmic truths to things that make sense to us, that we have points of commonality to imagine and to wrap our heads around.

03:04:21.100 I think that both of the hierarchies or both of the pantheons of gods that you were talking about are true in the sense that they're the best attempt by the elders of those groups of people to codify their understanding of the divine in the best way that they know.

03:04:45.520 Where you find points of overlap and points of commonality, I think that's a very strong indicator of truth to it.

03:04:55.680 And I also think that, you know, neither one of those things is perfect.

03:05:01.100 Our understanding of the gods through the Norse corpus of lore that's made it to us is imperfect and incomplete.

03:05:10.460 Hopefully we grow wiser.

03:05:12.460 We learn more.

03:05:13.280 We know more.

03:05:14.080 more is revealed to us over the course of the ages. When we find ourselves on the other side

03:05:20.000 of the veil, I think that the reality of our gods is far beyond, you know, our flailing attempts to

03:05:28.200 understand them, and is much more profound. And I don't think that any of them are, you know,

03:05:34.620 any of these understandings of pantheons is the exclusive end of the truth of the matter. But it

03:05:41.660 is a starting point, and it puts our faith in a framework that we build upon and that we launch

03:05:50.180 from on our further continued understanding of the gods. But you raise another good point when

03:05:56.940 you talk about, or maybe, you know, the different gods for different people and different stuff. 1.00

03:06:04.200 When you venture outside of Arian people, I think that may well be the case. We don't try to 1.00

03:06:10.900 suggest that our gods are the gods of the Nubians or the Chinese or whatever that might be.

03:06:18.200 Their race and their gods are their own thing to figure out. But amongst Aryan peoples, 0.88

03:06:24.440 these are all culturally and geographically and temporally specific attempts at, to the best of

03:06:35.240 our understanding, placing in a cohesive and comprehensible framework the knowledge of our folk

03:06:44.100 about the nature of the specific gods of our people. And I think that there are positives to

03:06:53.660 each of those things, but I think that they're all built in a way that is cohesive amongst itself.

03:07:01.480 That's why we try to stick to the Norse names and the Norse stories as our default and bring other things in when it's necessary or when it's useful.

03:07:14.220 But when you're aimless and you're just you will literally drive yourself crazy trying to make it all fit perfectly.

03:07:21.660 It will never fit perfectly because no one who's recorded any of it has a perfect understanding.

03:07:28.780 but we are all endeavoring to have a more perfect understanding and hopefully you know each year

03:07:37.200 each decade each century that we are doing this we have a more perfect more complete understanding

03:07:43.780 and that's our hope and that's something that we you know already see in play and something

03:07:49.880 we're very confident of um getting ever closer to that understanding as as time unfolds before

03:07:58.680 us swan do you think to add to that yeah i you know when we talk about the interconnectivity

03:08:06.200 between cultures and we see like i talk about it all the time with the tripartites um and the idea

03:08:14.520 the the trip the trinities within all aryan branches and even uh branches that are influenced

03:08:21.160 or intermixed with with um arians uh adopt or like christianity adopted it completely once it came

03:08:30.440 into europe um all of these things are cultural interpretations for the norse model we have to

03:08:41.400 contend with it not being written down too far after but a lot of people forget the hellenics

03:08:48.200 the re one of the big hurdles they have to cross is that there was a whole class of people who

03:08:54.360 absolutely despised the priest class and they went to great lengths to um

03:09:04.040 besmirch the divinity um at the time they're called the philosophes the philosophers many of

03:09:11.560 them in work with um creating these kind of dramas to uh place the gods in in in some sort of lesser

03:09:20.440 effect and so a lot of people think that's all that hellenic religiosity is and don't consider

03:09:29.000 you know the the hundreds to thousands of years of building up to that but um all of these cultural

03:09:37.320 expressions can exist in each of these groups but what we're starting to see is one by one

03:09:46.120 the reality of it is is that as we were one in the ancient past with our gods we have split up

03:09:54.760 we have faced the the trials of fate and what has come about is we are now at one really with

03:10:05.800 the gods again. And that is in the Germanic model. I try to say that there's much respect

03:10:14.380 and I have deep reservations of simply stating that people can't connect with the gods in

03:10:21.580 their own cultural ways. But the reality is, is that we are now uniting as one and we're uniting

03:10:29.040 as one um at a very crucial time and there's just a lot of people that cannot get over these

03:10:36.320 mental hurdles or obstacles of thinking of the gods as the gods and that every expression they

03:10:45.200 see in every distinct group of people is unique to those people and very important but overarching

03:10:53.600 is that it's this the the they're the same gods that's why we often say we we are pan-arian um

03:11:03.200 so you know i think people that split hairs too much end up dividing uh or you know purity

03:11:12.000 spiraling to fragmentation there's there's lots of right ways to do it but this is the way that

03:11:21.760 has worked and that is successful and that is showing the blessings of the gods moving forward

03:11:29.200 this unites us we've traveled around the world so far that we've met ourselves

03:11:35.520 and now we're re-coalescing as a folk and it's important now more than ever to recognize our

03:11:42.400 commonality as a folk and to stand united there is a tendency amongst our people to fragment

03:11:50.320 and balkanize into irrelevancy we represent very you know a very small percentage of white people 0.66

03:12:02.000 are worshiping white people gods we should all get on the team and do it the way that is successful 0.67

03:12:10.480 which is what we're doing we would invite the rest of our folk who are heterosexual white persons 0.53

03:12:16.560 to come home to the austral folk assembly to get on the team let's move forward there's tons of

03:12:23.120 ways that could have been picked this is the way that was picked and it's the path that was shown

03:12:28.640 divine favor and it is the path that we are moving forward on and enjoying beautiful and wonderful

03:12:35.920 things um so there's an endless debate about what coulda shoulda woulda but this is what is

03:12:45.280 and it is cohesive to all do it in a unified fashion instead of dispersing all of our

03:12:54.480 momentum all of our energy into a million different little puddles

03:13:02.240 you know i think that our founder said only when we realize that we are a river

03:13:06.800 will we stop drowning in puddles we have to move together with the full force of our folk

03:13:13.520 in order to restore our faith to where it ought to be

03:13:17.800 and to unite our folk for something better.

03:13:21.380 I think a really easy way to look at things

03:13:23.940 with the differences in Mediterranean versus Germanic or whatever,

03:13:30.940 the folk started and then came into Europe

03:13:34.620 and then they kind of branched off. 0.58

03:13:38.360 It's the same way that the Europeans came into America

03:13:42.040 and then they branched off and all of a sudden one group is saying you all and pop for soda

03:13:52.120 whereas another group is saying y'all and coke and then those folks out west are starting to say

03:13:58.160 gnarly dude and then all of a sudden jackson county tennessee starts winning and that's where

03:14:07.020 the good stuff is so that's also true and you should come to jackson county and you should do

03:14:13.480 also true with the afa and such that was strange and meandering but the conclusion is solid i will

03:14:22.780 back that you guys should all move to jackson county this is where else trues happen and it

03:14:27.520 should happen here um and no yahweh is not served well here's the thing so the last question and i

03:14:33.980 know if it's just for fun and i don't mean it overly serious we get this a lot uh thank you

03:14:39.180 in response can we all agree that yahweh is certain um the thing that i think is important

03:14:44.940 and we've been over this ad nauseum but our folk there's a continued tendency that we see of well

03:14:56.060 aren't you know dark elves really black folks and aren't you know this thing really

03:15:02.780 yeah no here's the thing and this is liberating in this world that is so um

03:15:16.220 i want to say diverse but it's like the opposite of diverse where we have this forced trying to

03:15:22.300 to mesh all these things together. No, our, our lore and our conception of ourself is completely

03:15:31.260 and totally segregated. Yahweh doesn't have anything to do with our lore and our lore has

03:15:38.860 nothing to do with Yahweh. They're completely and totally separate. And there's beauty in that 0.98

03:15:45.440 on, on our side, certainly. And I would imagine on the other team's side, there's beauty for them.

03:15:52.300 Same with other races of people. They're not part of our lore. They're not referenced in, you know, the cosmology of our faith, because our faith is about us as a people, not about other things that are not us. 1.00

03:16:08.700 and there's a dignity in that for everyone involved.

03:16:14.260 No, we don't need to find cognates in other people's religion

03:16:19.160 and try to make them fit into our faith.

03:16:22.620 Our divinity doesn't have to relate to the divinity of the Jews

03:16:27.540 or of other groups of people.

03:16:31.960 And that's an important thing to overcome,

03:16:34.800 and there are a lot of people

03:16:36.240 that still have not come to that.

03:16:45.180 Revelation?

03:16:47.780 Yeah, but it doesn't fit perfectly.

03:16:49.700 They haven't.

03:16:51.560 Realization?

03:16:53.420 Realization.

03:16:54.080 There you go.

03:16:54.920 Appreciate you, Nick.

03:16:56.500 So they haven't come to that realization

03:16:58.380 where they get that they're completely

03:17:00.600 and totally separate.

03:17:01.580 we spend too much time and this is a product of our circumstance no one's at fault for it

03:17:09.560 we're constantly pitted against other groups of people other faiths other races other

03:17:17.100 worldviews that drastically conflict with ours and so we see everything and comparing and

03:17:24.400 contrasting and in relation to the other. This is a very refreshing way to come home and not think

03:17:34.660 about the other. Just think about us. Just define us by who we are and not by who we're struggling

03:17:44.480 against or competing with. Just take strength in who we are and the world that's related to us

03:17:51.280 without the extra, I'll always remember that first time I went to Camp Norga for my first

03:18:01.040 AFA Midsummer, we were at breakfast, we were talking about something and, you know, some

03:18:09.160 other, some multicultural topic came up and I instinctively looked for, you know, I think

03:18:16.960 at the time was looking for, you know, the go-to Mexican fellow to ask a question, and it dawned on

03:18:24.040 me like, no, I'm in this room and this camp with only my folk. Not only are they only my folk,

03:18:33.760 but they're my folk who are practicing my faith. Being able to realize that you can be in this

03:18:41.980 bubble of your people and your religion all together without um quote unquote enrichment

03:18:51.900 by diversity is a beautiful thing to be enriched by the homogeneity of our people together and

03:19:00.620 i think that's really important it's a special gift when you can find that freedom in

03:19:05.420 that's what we have for this evening we're taking forever on getting through something that's not

03:19:12.940 that long but it's because we really like it and i think it's really foundational to what we do

03:19:17.580 and we're kind of savoring it and answering questions we had a great chat room tonight

03:19:22.440 we had great questions appreciate you guys all for being here it's fun as always thank you for

03:19:27.980 joining us and reading us the story and presenting this for us. Nick, thank you for all that you do.

03:19:39.000 Swan, I will talk to you in two weeks, and we will continue where we left off. Next week,

03:19:48.200 we have a special treat. Folk builder Chris Savage is going to be on to talk about Prince

03:19:53.640 Herman, his life, his times, and his significance.

03:19:58.160 Chris's shows are always amazing history lessons that he is able to present to us,

03:20:04.640 so I'm very excited for that personally, and I'm sure you guys will enjoy it too.

03:20:10.020 Until then, I'll see you all later.

03:20:12.520 Hail the Iseer, hail the folk, hail the AFA.

03:20:15.620 Remember, victory never sleeps.

03:20:18.860 Bye.

03:20:23.640 We'll be right back.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - March 05, 2026

3⧸4⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 191 - Prose Edda： Gylfaginning, Part 4

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