Asatru Folk Assembly - 3⧸6⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 87 - Hávamál, Part 5

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00:04:00.000 i believe we are on

00:04:04.980 i gotta figure out a way to watch this it doesn't have the uh little delay i'm sorry guys the

00:04:13.020 control room i look at this in is it's got a built-in delay for the streaming that's on me i

00:04:20.600 know i start a little awkwardly each of these but welcome back to another exciting edition

00:04:27.640 Victory Never Sleeps. We're on part five of our study of the Havel Mall.

00:04:35.180 We are getting into the portion that is called the Lodfafnus Mall, I think.

00:04:47.720 But yeah, we're making good progress. We covered a lot of ground last week.

00:04:51.700 I hope you guys are enjoying this. Please feel free to give feedback.

00:04:55.580 back. But I think these are really valuable episodes and I appreciate you guys being here

00:05:01.440 for them. It is our first episode of March. A couple of things. First, if you guys would

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00:05:39.660 we'll stop as soon as is reasonably convenient

00:05:43.120 and address your question and we welcome all of those.

00:05:48.480 any questions you guys may ask if they are directly related to the stanzas that we're in

00:05:54.960 we'll talk about them if they're not we'll absolutely answer them but we're going to

00:05:58.720 wait till the end of the program to get some of those um other things to know

00:06:07.680 guys got just a couple of weeks left if you want to make it to osara at thorshof

00:06:13.120 both spawn and myself will be there along with i believe every member of the afa witten will

00:06:18.320 be in attendance it's going to be a really awesome event thor's hoff always has a very

00:06:23.440 special place in my heart that was the first half we got under my administration and it's

00:06:30.960 put put a lot into that so it's a beautiful place i would love for you all to get a chance to see it

00:06:36.960 um please reach out to your local folk builder get squared away also and a good reminder over

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00:07:38.260 another just kind of because you guys are keeping track and i give you guys updates because it's

00:07:43.540 important on um okay maybe those of you that are just joining us we have some folks in the audience

00:07:51.140 that don't know so we got our first off in 2015 and that was odin's off and we're very committed

00:07:59.940 to establishing hoffs um one after another and we have quite a few we're committed to

00:08:07.300 so in relatively short order since 2015 we've gotten thorshoff first odenshoff is in brownsville

00:08:14.820 california we got thorshoff in linden north carolina that's where ostara is being held this

00:08:22.420 year and every year we've got baldershoff in murdoch minnesota and we have mjordshoff

00:08:32.500 which i visited last month for charming of the plow in white springs florida as you can see

00:08:40.020 especially folks in places like texas or maine you're pretty far away from where our hoffs are

00:08:46.660 at currently but the more we make these things happen the closer the closer these hoffs are

00:08:52.180 going to get to your area uh that being said i want to report kind of progress the next hoff

00:08:58.180 that we are trying to establish is going to be phrase hoff and we're looking at uh eastern

00:09:08.020 excuse me eastern ohio or western pennsylvania

00:09:11.060 in order to do that our first step is to pay off the mortgage that we currently have

00:09:18.900 on new york's off and you guys have been awesome and amazing and generous and we've made really

00:09:25.060 good progress on that uh nick has put up the thermometer on there if you take a look at that

00:09:33.200 you can see that we are well over half i think we're somewhere like 67 ish percent paid off at

00:09:42.320 this point which has come uh relatively quickly and that's thanks to that's thanks to y'all and

00:09:50.000 your generosity so thank you very much for that we currently currently owe 92 935.77 that's a lot

00:10:03.200 but not considering we've only had this off for about a year and a half so we've made tremendous

00:10:10.160 progress on paying that off we're moving forward nicely and again thank you to everybody who's

00:10:15.200 donated to help make that happen if you are interested in in furthering this and helping

00:10:21.760 those donations continue to grow nick will post a link and we appreciate that

00:10:26.880 that's what i've got for you at the top of the month on this and i appreciate you guys being

00:10:36.720 here appreciate all your questions if you're following along tonight nick can also post the

00:10:42.880 link to the exact web page that's fawn and i are looking at and reading from

00:10:48.080 but anybody curious we're reading the bellows translation of the have them all

00:10:56.880 feel free to read along in any translation that you might have handy or that might be your

00:11:06.060 favorite. I think there's a benefit to us kind of seeing what's in each of those. So, you know,

00:11:12.880 we're, we're not sticklers on one guy's translation. Um, I'm giving you guys just a

00:11:19.240 second to get to that and uh we will go ahead and get started i believe we are on

00:11:30.360 stanza 111

00:11:35.160 i wanted to address uh be more he he just uh he made it specific yeah i'm i'm down in southeastern

00:11:45.460 virginia norfolk uh chesapeake virginia beach area um and yeah we're actually first off i would

00:11:54.620 recommend that you come down to uh austra in north carolina but also i'm going to be holding

00:12:00.920 some moots down here so if you want to get in contact with me you could contact me through my

00:12:05.900 email which is s harrell at runestone.org you could also reach out to me on twitter um as go

00:12:14.200 Ysvan if you need to get in contact with me. And we can see about, you know, if you're down here

00:12:21.680 in this area and you want to get together or possibly join in something, be more, you're

00:12:27.580 more than welcome. Just reach out to me. We'll figure it out. Another thing to mention, just

00:12:31.920 putting it out there. I'm not sure where in Maryland you find yourself, but if you are,

00:12:40.400 i mean if you are or you aren't i was gonna say in the western half of the state at the very very

00:12:47.260 tip of west virginia where it's almost in maryland we have a folk builder named pat cook and he would

00:12:54.660 be happy to help you get involved with some people locally there as well so um you've got a lot of

00:13:00.400 cool options and uh i hope that you take us up on at least one but i hope you take us up on all of

00:13:08.120 i think they're great folks that we'd love to see get in touch with yeah uh we were talking about

00:13:14.840 this just um a little while ago and i think they're that the audience is worth noting that

00:13:21.080 there's a lot of stuff going on in areas not for everyone because there are certain places where

00:13:27.640 we're but usually if you look around you'll find a lot and there is tons of stuff to do

00:13:32.840 you just got to show up you got to reach out you got to find out where what's going on when's go

00:13:37.640 you know when our holy tides are or what everyone's trying to do for holy tides sometimes there's moots

00:13:43.400 sometimes there's bloats but there is a way for you to easily reach out and contact people and

00:13:48.920 another thing that i just became aware of um actually my my wife was noting that on the

00:13:56.520 runestone that uh came out today as monthly runestones there is a button at the bottom of

00:14:03.400 the email that says view the entire message and definitely wanted to make sure that everyone

00:14:10.040 recognized that as an extension of because there's so much great information there's so many

00:14:15.640 articles and um you know write-ups and you know events that are going on uh letting people know

00:14:23.160 what's happening just all over the united states and in other countries so you know if you're are

00:14:29.080 if you're a member and you're getting the rune stone make sure you do that if you're not a member

00:14:33.080 become a member and that way you can get so this is for for be more heathen um and anybody else

00:14:40.120 who's interested i think this is best time as any to put this up um nick put up a graphic a few

00:14:46.600 minutes ago and i'm sure he'll put it back up for me of our huff districts and that's that map he

00:14:52.680 put up with all the different uh with the four different colors across the united states and i

00:14:58.040 know it's not internationally inclusive so i'll break that down for you guys if you're curious

00:15:03.800 but what's cool is each of those districts has its own website on those websites you get a

00:15:13.480 calendar up front and a special calendar page that shows you all of the events going on

00:15:19.960 um and chances are there's something close to you or at least something you can make close

00:15:24.040 to you if you're dedicated we got a lot of stuff going on all across the country but more than that

00:15:30.120 every month we have something that goes on in sweden and we have something that goes on in

00:15:34.360 poland as well um and we're working on some things in australia also so we got a lot of options a lot

00:15:43.000 of cool stuff if you go there and you check out the calendars you can see where things are going

00:15:48.680 on and find local contacts if you are curious about this if you take each of these and you kind

00:15:54.760 of draw a line straight north it will show you how we have canada in three different sections

00:16:02.920 everything in south america or africa are also and the caribbean for that matter are in

00:16:11.160 in York's Hoff District all of Europe and suppose Europe and the northern half of Asia

00:16:21.960 are all in force Hoff District um and Australia and New Zealand are in Odenshoff District

00:16:32.700 just to let y'all know and kind of cool news we got um a Russian member just signed up today that

00:16:40.320 an excellent conversation with over on uh whatsapp so that was kind of a cool thing that happened today

00:16:49.120 so i suppose sharing for the moment has uh has ceased and we can get cracking on

00:16:55.760 stanza 111 if you will oh i just said i got one little guy that wants to say hello

00:17:03.440 uh-oh say hello no over here hello now you gotta go to bed very important

00:17:13.680 sorry he's sneaking around and and uh he he's he's insistent he wants to say hello to everyone

00:17:22.560 we'll always break for him

00:17:23.680 okay let's see now where are we now uh so this is a good point to understand that at uh

00:17:35.520 we're getting over to the stanzas that run towards the end and i wanted to make a great point about

00:17:43.680 this is that we know that the entirety of the halva mall is sectioned it's sectioned and it

00:17:53.440 it was most likely pieced together when it was being compiled in the 12th century. So it's worth

00:18:02.700 noting that the Halvamal is pieced together for the reason of its wisdom and also its connections

00:18:11.320 to Odin. In each of these, there is a clear connection to Lord Odin, whether it's through

00:18:17.300 the runic through um direct words from him in relation to uh in the in the beginning of the

00:18:25.720 and here and this is like again in counseling um the poet um that is about to start speaking his

00:18:33.500 stanzas but we know these are pieces that's one of the big things about why we encourage everyone

00:18:40.260 to look at different translations we don't this is not seen as the writ of a bible in some sorts

00:18:49.380 it's more of an understanding that these poems were in circulation before they were compiled

00:18:56.260 and before they were even poetic they were stories and they were told in story format and then

00:19:02.420 eventually you know transmogrified into uh correct nordic stanzas and then they were eventually

00:19:11.620 compiled so they are older than the compilations and it's you know again we're we're not claiming

00:19:19.700 that lord odin came down and said the entirety of this poem to snorri stutlason um in relation to

00:19:27.940 the compilation. And I think that it's very important to understand that. But if you look

00:19:33.400 at each of them and the reasons why they're compiled together into the Halvamal is because

00:19:38.260 each section uniquely either is speaking from Lord Odin perspective, like his perspective of

00:19:46.360 first person, or they're connected to the runes, or it's about advising the young poet or the young

00:19:54.240 storyteller or the young musician or, or, or what have you. Um, and the reason for this is in the

00:20:01.180 first, uh, uh, one 11, it says here that, you know, now I will speak from the thullur stoli in old

00:20:10.640 Norse. And this is of course the stool of the singer, um, or the poet. So a thullur is, I mean,

00:20:21.080 normally I think people are familiar with the word scald or a bard, but a thuler is a singer

00:20:27.720 or a speaker of poetics and, or a storyteller. And so, you know, in this first part, that's kind

00:20:35.980 of what's being said. And then every part thereafter, it says, I read the load Fafner.

00:20:42.620 Now, one of the things I wanted to premise before we started was the word read. It means I counsel

00:20:48.760 you a council and it's survives in our language mainly in names um like alfred alfred meaning

00:20:57.880 counseled by the elves or eldred like my son that was just on here his name is eldred and it means

00:21:04.900 counseled by the elders so whenever you read this or hear this on the podcast tonight and it's i read

00:21:11.160 it's r-e-d-e and it means i counsel so that was another thing i wanted to kind of bring up before

00:21:18.420 we started rolling in.

00:21:23.380 So yeah, let's

00:21:24.520 go with 111. I'm sure it's already

00:21:26.460 up there.

00:21:28.240 It is time to chant

00:21:30.200 from the chanter's 0.98

00:21:32.140 stool. Again, very interesting, the

00:21:34.360 usage of chanter to thuller.

00:21:37.180 By the wells

00:21:38.560 of Ur, thy was.

00:21:41.780 Now, this

00:21:42.520 is interesting, too, because in

00:21:44.460 the Old Norse, it's just simply

00:21:46.020 the well of earth.

00:21:50.060 I saw and was silent.

00:21:52.940 I saw and thought

00:21:54.440 and heard the speech

00:21:56.440 of Hor. H-O-R 0.91

00:21:58.560 and of course this is

00:22:00.300 Bellows translations for

00:22:01.740 Haur. Haur is the high 1.00

00:22:04.420 one. Lord Oden.

00:22:06.800 Of runes I heard

00:22:08.220 words. Nor

00:22:10.400 were councils wanting

00:22:11.980 at the hall of Hor

00:22:14.460 in the hall of Hor, such was the speech I heard. So now, this is kind of a transition point,

00:22:25.060 and most likely, if this poem was being read by itself, then this is Lord Fafner speaking,

00:22:35.820 and he's saying what he heard, and then he is, in essence, repeating what Lord Vóðinn told him.

00:22:44.460 And so that's why it switches. So this first stanza is really from Lord Faftner's personal

00:22:50.540 voice. And then it flips to what he heard by, you know, being counseled. And there is repetition

00:22:58.020 in this one that's built up for poetics. Again, to keep the measure and to keep the tempo,

00:23:06.180 oftentimes a lot of old poems would have these kind of first two sentences repeat over and over

00:23:13.440 and over again because they were almost spoken at such a speed that it was kind of like a chorus

00:23:19.620 in a song. So he speaks now that, you know, he, he was at earth's well, which is in heaven.

00:23:34.220 And he sat there and was counseled. And then he went to, you know, to the hall of Lord Odin

00:23:43.260 And found that no counsel was, you know, nobody there was not receiving the answers they needed, the answers they wanted, the answers that they were looking for.

00:23:55.140 And so he's stating that, you know, in the heavenly place, which brings a lot of questions, is he an exalted soul? Is he, you know, has gained the blessing of Lord Wolven to see into or be brought up, maybe even temporarily?

00:24:18.000 There's no real background on this, but I do find it quite interesting as to how the perspective of our ancestors as an audience would take this story as being, perhaps again, giving a glimpse.

00:24:38.140 And that happened a lot. A lot of times, you know, having a kind of brief moment of being able to glimpse into the other realms, the other worlds, and to be given that gift and then to come back and kind of exert that.

00:24:50.820 And I think that, you know, King Galfi is one, Lodfofner is another, and Kvasir is the other as being kind of perhaps the tripartite of, and I don't mean to use that in a trite sense, but it always seems to kind of lead to three where there is a mortal who, or a divine, semi-divine storyteller who receives wisdom and then exudes it out.

00:25:20.820 so well we move into to 112 since 111 I apologize miss McHugh there I was reading something else

00:25:33.820 so anybody watching this video when I'm looking down and in my lap it's because it the way I'm

00:25:43.720 set up looking on my computer for some of these things is odd so I'm looking up little side notes

00:25:48.280 inside rabbit holes and stuff on my phone to try to add to the conversation it's worth noting when

00:25:55.000 people hear the term uh thuler it is the same term etymologically that we use for the position during

00:26:05.560 sumble where there is a bailiff or an enforcer that judges words spoken over the horn and

00:26:15.960 rectifies those situations or ejects people if necessary that position

00:26:23.480 is etymologically based the same so there's multiple senses of what all that means as far as

00:26:31.720 poet um reciter of the past and kind of judge of stuff that people say as it relates to

00:26:41.160 history and lore and things we know from the from the past so if you guys hear that term

00:26:49.580 and it sounds familiar that's why

00:26:51.220 and it's worth also noting too like it could be used poetically um one of the sacred rivers there

00:27:03.220 are 11 sacred rivers in the underworld and one of them is called fimbelthul and it means the

00:27:08.980 terrible singer or the terrible roarer or um monstrous um singer so if you ever yeah you uh

00:27:19.540 noting that that word has such a kind of broad usage but a lot of our words do like alvar and

00:27:25.780 things like that so um okay and that's a that's a court position too and it at different times

00:27:34.580 in different places and honestly in different kings or chieftains courts that position that

00:27:42.100 person might have had a variety of different uh obligations depending on time and place

00:27:51.700 yeah i really like it because it's not so specific as a scald um it has a lot of a broader sense the

00:27:58.900 from the mundane to kind of the guardianship of Frith inside a hall.

00:28:07.380 You know, the one way to keep people kind of in check

00:28:11.120 without it being directly from the lord or the king or the jarl 0.58

00:28:15.100 was through the thular.

00:28:22.060 So here in 112, we start to see the first of the repetitive,

00:28:26.080 excuse me, the repetitive lines. And I will, I think for sake of speed and such, we will

00:28:34.460 cover this once and then kind of skip it every stanza. It, it says, I read the low.

00:28:44.700 I like the driving pace of it. I would like us to read that every single thing.

00:28:49.440 Okay. Yes, sir. I will do that. Thank you.

00:28:52.840 Um, yeah, I mean, and we are kind of coming towards, I mean, like we said, we're the, we're in like the home stretch, but I understand.

00:29:01.440 So, uh, I read thee, I counsel thee, Lord Fafnir, and hear thou my read.

00:29:09.960 So I counsel you, you should hear my counsel.

00:29:13.600 profit thou has if thou hearest great thy gain if thou learnest rise not at night save if news

00:29:26.500 thou seekest or feign to the outhouse wouldest fare bellows makes the most poetic kind of version

00:29:36.440 of the translation of this and it it really more or less means that you shouldn't lose sleep at

00:29:46.060 night you shouldn't uh you know rouse up and be stressing about anything or doing what what what

00:29:56.480 you know extra things um unless of course you're going to the restroom so it was it's more or less

00:30:04.740 the very poetic way of saying that um you should get your sleep which i this is one stanza i don't

00:30:16.500 often i wish i did heed more but it's basically saying that you should get rest and not be

00:30:25.860 stressed overnight um and save yourself for the day and this follows on um counsel that we've

00:30:34.820 heard already in the halva model about you know to the effect of it profits you nothing to stay

00:30:42.180 up all night worrying because in the morning you have the same amount of problems everything that

00:30:46.980 was messed up when you went to bed is messed up in the morning but now it's messed up and you're

00:30:51.780 tire so um it's just some wisdom of you know if there's not anything you can do about it

00:30:58.260 rest easy use that time to uh rest up and face the problems anew and i think that's

00:31:04.580 much much easier said than it is uh practiced but it's certainly very sound wisdom

00:31:11.620 well and it also immediately goes into some um it goes from practical to perhaps

00:31:25.940 uh it depends on on what the

00:31:34.340 i guess the the the context of the work but let's let's go into uh you know 113.

00:31:41.620 i read thee lord fafnir and hear thou my read prophet thou hast if thou hearest

00:31:50.660 great thy gain if thou learnest so that's the the titling of um the the repeating of the prose

00:31:59.860 so you know counsel i will give you and if you hear it you will grow in wealth or you will grow

00:32:07.140 in uh greatness if you learn what i'm what i'm speaking and then the last two lines are

00:32:14.260 beware of sleep on a witch's bosom nor let her limbs ensnare thee now this is uh again quite

00:32:24.660 interesting um in relation to i think the the main mode of this is to be aware of of uh manipulative

00:32:36.820 women and do not fall into the trap of of um you know getting caught up and this is again 0.99

00:32:44.340 kind of like leaning back to you know being being weary of getting caught up in people's uh

00:32:52.980 letting their hearts, a wise man can oftentimes have his heart completely manipulated. Whereas

00:33:00.780 a fool is left unaffected. And I think this is again, kind of brought into that. And all 1.00

00:33:07.040 of Lodfalfner's section is really short and like curt it because those last two lines are really

00:33:17.300 all that there is of the, um, of the, uh, advice. So one of the things I did want to look up though

00:33:26.580 was, um, the, the usage of a word because a witch's bosom is not necessarily, I think the

00:33:38.220 thing that that's being said so i was wondering again bellows's usage of um certain words i find

00:33:51.820 interesting oh and i broke my dictionary so i'll have to i'll have to look for something

00:34:00.700 think i would try to look for other translations as well and yeah i think the general idea is

00:34:10.460 very similar to what was said last week

00:34:15.420 beware of the seductress you can't necessarily rest easy because you're um

00:34:22.460 laying with a woman uh be careful because often they got shady intent that's a thing and i think

00:34:33.440 it's sound advice and i think that women know that and exploit that and it's a thing we know

00:34:42.640 very well that sex or certainly affection and attention from women is very disarming to men. 0.91

00:34:53.860 It's one of the most potent ways to cause a man to make mistakes or to let his guard down or to 0.97

00:35:01.440 not live with the wisdom and caution that he normally would. And I think we all know the

00:35:10.380 truth in that so i think this is a further admonition against yes if you're on instagram

00:35:16.880 only fan thoughts

00:35:20.300 it's a thing it's a thing and you know as this attests to it's always been a thing

00:35:27.860 i uh i was off like we you know i don't know if the audience knows but like i'll just say for

00:35:34.940 myself. I got kicked off of Facebook, um, and, uh, January 6th, interestingly enough. And, um,

00:35:42.960 but I, I was allowed back onto Instagram, which was a different thing with my,

00:35:48.060 with my business. And I come back after two years and that's like everything I sees

00:35:56.300 is these kind of women trying to get money out of men by doing things and linking in the bios and 0.98

00:36:04.580 all that and i was just it was so disheartening to see like after being gone for so long and i

00:36:09.840 guess it's kind of like when the the frog jumps into the boiling water versus it slowly being

00:36:14.860 turned up i don't know if people noticed it but i noticed it viciously and was like what is this

00:36:20.300 all about when did instagram become like a a corral for only fans it's terrible oh so now more

00:36:28.880 than ever, the

00:36:30.540 counsel to Lodfofner is needed

00:36:32.900 for young men, because we live

00:36:34.940 in a wild time.

00:36:38.340 Yeah, if

00:36:39.140 someone 1.00

00:36:41.180 who looks like they are an OnlyFans

00:36:42.840 model randomly sends you friend requests,

00:36:45.420 they

00:36:47.140 probably don't really want to be your friend.

00:36:49.840 Yeah, remember what

00:36:51.100 Lord Oathen said.

00:36:52.860 Be gone.

00:36:55.220 No, it's something worth noting, too.

00:36:57.020 And this is like, say, for instance, a perfect example of this is if you are a woman or a young lady that was learning the halvamal and learning these things, one of the things that I think it's worth noting is that whole culture, especially in relation to the poetics of storytelling, was heavily geared towards the warrior men, the warrior class.

00:37:27.020 I know that History Channel wants to convince people that there was just equal men and women

00:37:34.700 fighting. That was not the case. And it was very geared towards the speech and the talking of,

00:37:40.700 and the referencing to, and the advisement of young warriors and the wisdom that older

00:37:47.120 warriors had learned. So it's worth perspective understanding that that's why this is the way it

00:37:54.980 There's an important thing, and I've mentioned this last time, and I'll mention it again.

00:38:04.320 Like so much of our lore, there's layers to it.

00:38:08.160 Certainly take it at face value if you were the intended audience.

00:38:13.080 But the same applies to everyone else to be aware of.

00:38:18.180 Maybe it's not you in that position. 1.00

00:38:21.080 if you're one of our ladies i would prefer you not be the one that uses 1.00

00:38:28.040 your sexuality to take advantage of men but be aware it's a thing you have friends that may 1.00

00:38:35.160 engage in that behavior you have male friends that might find themselves caught up in it and you can

00:38:41.000 add some clarity to what they're saying you may have sons you may have fathers that find

00:38:47.560 themselves in these spots it's still useful for you to know perhaps you're a man and one of your

00:38:54.520 rivals finds himself in that spot that gives you an opportunity to exploit if you need to

00:39:00.520 perhaps one of your allies finds themselves in that spot it's worth you heating this wisdom so

00:39:06.680 you can pull them out of it and slap some sense into them and get them acting right

00:39:10.440 um it's valuable from multiple perspectives not just from the for the intended audience

00:39:17.800 but as human dynamics and social dynamics we would all do better to be aware of

00:39:24.460 well and i just looked up something and i wanted to make sure because uh there is a word that's

00:39:31.900 used first off the the word witch isn't used the word corner means woman but the word before it is

00:39:38.300 fjolk kunigri, and fjol was the part that I was looking for, because it could mean desirous,

00:39:47.960 it could mean wanting or needing, and generally they translate this as to be skilled in magic,

00:39:56.840 but I find it interesting that the first part of it is fjol, meaning desirous, so kind of in the

00:40:04.220 skills of desire would be a more direct translation. And that's why I find it interesting

00:40:10.620 utilizing the word witch, uh, in relation to the idea of perhaps a manipulative woman that uses 0.95

00:40:19.380 desire against you. Um, that could have big context difference between, but, um, they, so

00:40:28.180 again when you see that word they generally say it means the skills of magic but i see it

00:40:35.300 with that word fuel meaning desirous or or wanting is is kind of interesting and i think that that

00:40:42.180 might be that there might have even been a societal um kind of context to it the idea of of a uh

00:40:49.860 you know not necessarily meaning just to just good in magic um but good in the arts of wanting

00:40:59.700 if you kind of catch that meaning that's why some of the translations and some of the words are

00:41:04.980 are odd because even in the old norse when you look it up you'll see that word being entirely

00:41:11.460 summed up as good and magic but if you start picking pieces apart you can kind of get more

00:41:19.060 meanings as to what they might have been contexting so just wanted to point that out as well

00:41:27.540 the art of subject the magic of seduction if you will well and that's one of the things to keep

00:41:33.540 note um from a modern perspective and in the society that which we live that's largely secularized 0.89

00:41:41.220 when you think of a witch you think of some green-skinned hag with a pointy hat flying

00:41:50.740 around on a broomstick and i don't think that was the image to our ancestors i think the arts

00:41:58.180 of manipulation and the arts of uh you know what a lot of people would call low magic are

00:42:05.300 taught amongst women and have always been and there's a fine line there's not like

00:42:16.740 we have categorized everything in society today as being either it's magic

00:42:24.580 or it's science and it makes sense that's not how it was there's no difference to our ancestors

00:42:32.660 between a magic potion and a herbal remedy they're literally the same thing um just because you have a

00:42:43.860 understanding of how things work doesn't remove it from being a form of magic or a form of

00:42:51.700 um subtle manipulation and i think it's worth it's worth consider considering that

00:43:02.660 all right so we are um this is actually a continuation of 113 114 kind of expounds on it

00:43:15.980 and this does not have the repetitive um intro line so 113 and 114 are kind of together

00:43:23.900 such is her might that thou hast no mind for the council or meeting of men

00:43:31.900 meet thou hatest joy that jow joy thou hast not and sadly to slumber thou fairest okay so

00:43:43.700 in its entirety here um what we can kind of see is you know beware of you know lying in the bosom

00:43:53.040 of a manipulative woman who is skilled in the art of or in the magic of manipulation 0.91

00:44:00.220 and don't let her catch you because if you do you will not you know be able to spend time with your 0.51

00:44:10.960 your friends for counsel or meeting of men you will not have you'll have no sense no mind

00:44:20.780 and she's so mighty and you're miserable yes and and meet thou hatest i love i love that one but

00:44:30.120 remember to mouth or sorry not not means not meat specifically as it does to also a meal

00:44:39.320 the word meat uh even in old nor i mean in uh anglo-saxon meant any meal was was a meat and um

00:44:49.300 it was not specific to like the flesh of an animal and, and vegetables. It was just the

00:44:56.420 entirety of the meal. So, you know, I, I think that's another mistran, or not mistranslation,

00:45:02.620 but just kind of, again, an emphasis that's gone in a different direction.

00:45:05.660 Well, I think it's a nugget of this that, you know, sadly, most of us men on here 0.95

00:45:12.860 have some familiarity with oftentimes women hold out the promise 0.99

00:45:21.800 of sexuality or of desire for that matter just to string men along and in the end 0.89

00:45:30.760 they don't achieve their objective sexually the men that is but they also are miserable and don't

00:45:38.100 achieve any of the things out of the relationship they buy into and think they will because they're

00:45:44.260 so blinded by um by their lust and their urges and i think this is you know worthwhile advice

00:45:52.340 to to keep aware of on that sometimes you you know you go all in on the seductive um very sexually

00:46:02.580 forward woman and you find out that it's all just a tool to manipulate you and and what you think is

00:46:10.900 going to be you know this wonderful experience really is not and you turned out set it you end

00:46:16.500 up sacrificing a great deal to not receive you know any kind of reward for your sacrifice

00:46:21.620 and i think too it also kind of lends to the idea of really when you go and look for love you should

00:46:33.000 look for the deeply invest your mind in the content of her honor her mentality her um again

00:46:44.880 what she what she is trying to do and what she brings don't get caught up in simply just looks

00:46:52.600 you have to consider a whole and the other thing is is that again it kind of in essence is saying

00:46:59.780 that the content of your character and her character need to match you know if uh you need

00:47:08.000 to have more than just simply the looks that you're looking for you need to consider the whole

00:47:12.800 it and that's a big investment don't just caught up get caught up in the beauty or the manipulations

00:47:18.960 of a woman and immediately you know you're not to belabor it any more than is necessary but again

00:47:26.880 these are for discerning people to apply as they see fit as an aryan man or woman you have

00:47:35.760 agency to make choices in your life if you want to pursue that or go down that route

00:47:42.800 know what you're getting into know the potential pitfalls and keep your head on a swivel when you

00:47:50.500 engage somebody on that level so you so you have full possession of your faculties and you know

00:47:57.760 what the dangers are and it helps you navigate you know any of these things it talks about

00:48:03.400 consequence you can pay these prices if you want to you know pursue these things or to go contrary

00:48:10.160 to the advice but it lets you know what you're getting into and it helps prepare you if that's

00:48:15.980 the route that you choose to take so again these uh these are going to be short and and curt as

00:48:31.180 far as uh the way things go with uh the fact that they're usually only two lines unless there's an

00:48:37.220 extended piece um 115 i read thee lord fafnir and hear thou my read prophet thou hast if thou

00:48:48.860 hearest great thy gain if thou learnest seek never to win the wife of another or long for a secret

00:48:58.220 love. That's pretty straightforward. Do not, do not go and seek the, uh, you know, the wife of

00:49:12.840 another man. Don't basically, this is just warning about, you know, your commitments in marriage and

00:49:17.520 adultery. Don't do it. That's, that's it. And again, the long for a secret love, um,

00:49:25.580 you know these uh the idea of of kind of a a love or a relationship that has to be

00:49:34.940 hidden or um and again there is addressments towards certain things that might come up as

00:49:41.960 far as hiddenness of a relationship that you know again feuds and things like that of the age

00:49:49.380 at that time could cause huge problems but this is more along the lines of clearly a

00:49:56.340 a morally wrong relationship um those yes well and it's it's a clear truth and it

00:50:07.680 i say this every every wednesday that we go through it and i will continue to do so

00:50:15.300 So one of the tremendous values of this piece of our lore is it is so completely relevant to our lives and our social interactions, just as much today as it was then.

00:50:30.760 I think all of us either have been in this situation or know people who have to where they're in some kind of inappropriate relationship, but no, she's going to leave her husband and then we're going to run off together and everything's going to be beautiful and whatever.

00:50:51.720 And I think we know plenty of women that are the other woman, too.

00:50:56.020 No, he's going to leave his wife and he's just got to wait until this one thing's done or there's this other thing.

00:51:02.060 And then we can live our happily ever after dream that we're going to have.

00:51:08.380 And far, far more often than not, it doesn't work out that way.

00:51:15.180 And it leads to misery for everybody involved.

00:51:18.840 but you know sometimes if shame compels people to keep something a secret there's there's good

00:51:25.540 reason for that yeah and this this um the concept i think that a lot of uh modern day people think

00:51:34.700 about that we don't have moral structures in our faith are wrong it's just they don't see it

00:51:40.960 because it's layered but there are clearly moral uh caveats to our faith and one thing that's worth

00:51:48.280 noting for everyone listening is that there are you don't want to be a needling you don't want to

00:51:53.260 be marked as somebody who's um you know uh just of no worth or or of of moral crime but it's worth

00:52:04.620 noting that it's there's levels there is first the folk you by law or by you know if you break

00:52:13.680 enough. If you, um, steal or kill your kin, um, you know, go with another man's wife, so on and

00:52:21.260 so forth. All of these things in amongst the folk can be determined as like prosecution of it based

00:52:29.460 in the world of the folk. Then there is the gods. You don't want to be marked by them. And I think

00:52:36.680 that those may have far bigger or broader uh frameworks as to what perhaps if the gods were

00:52:45.500 to doom you um as they you know uh gather to counsel in heaven at the well at the tree they

00:52:54.200 meet out the doom of men i think this is ultimately talking about being marked but i think their mark

00:53:00.760 is far broader it's not necessarily like in the realm of law and then of course you don't

00:53:06.580 want to be marked as a needling by your ancestors so you have more or less three courts of moral

00:53:14.180 judgment that we function in and the first and foremost that's the most intricate and the most

00:53:19.740 lively is of course here in Midgard amongst the folk your community matters your community

00:53:25.880 you know nowadays I think a lot of people can say like oh I don't I don't care what people think or

00:53:30.800 I don't care. And they can just kind of move on or self-sufficiently kind of, you know, feed into

00:53:37.100 themselves or whatever, or go try to find another community. Some people just change communities

00:53:42.060 like they're, you know, changing their shirt. But that buildup of things that happens, I think

00:53:50.200 ultimately bleeds into the other two. In the heavenly court, I think that God's noticed

00:53:56.980 consistency of action. And that's when I think the cumulative sense of being called a needling

00:54:02.860 by the gods or being noticed by them as to be a, you know, not.

00:54:08.600 And we do this too. And I think that the judgment of our gods is certainly much greater and

00:54:16.660 beyond our complete understanding. But at the very basic level of understanding, certainly they

00:54:25.700 at least see it the way at least understand the way that we would see it in a society

00:54:33.020 and they see it with their much much grander perspective but at the same point in time

00:54:40.840 reputation is everything and there's one level of people finding your actions morally correct

00:54:50.240 or morally incorrect and there is another just guttural disdain you have for someone who

00:55:01.200 is without dignity um if you go all in on that and then chick doesn't leave her husband 0.81

00:55:09.200 and you're stuck you know dating some dude's wife you're looked at as a cuckold and you're 1.00

00:55:16.480 looked at as a fool and not only that but yeah you're also a dirtbag who's trying to steal dudes 1.00

00:55:22.880 wives so you're all of those things that are negative and it affects your worth and the 1.00

00:55:29.040 dignity with which other men see you the dignity to which women see you the dignity to which you

00:55:35.840 know when you let your reputation erode

00:55:40.720 is spawn made better when confronting his enemies with me by his side as an ally or not 1.00

00:55:49.840 you know or do his enemies laugh at him because he's got that lame cuck you know fool dude next 0.98

00:55:56.960 to him that chases skirts and gets taken advantage of reputation is everything we can see it from our 0.98

00:56:06.280 limited perspective and make such a big judgment on it, we forget that our gods and our ancestors

00:56:14.340 are watching. What does your great-grandfather think about you, you know, running around with

00:56:20.600 this other dude's wife? What does he think about that? What does he think about it morally? What

00:56:27.140 does he think about it just like you being such a complete buffoon that you think, you know, 0.99

00:56:32.440 this is going to work out well for you is he proud of his great-grandson 0.98

00:56:39.720 beyond that are our gods proud of you you know those are those are worthwhile considerations

00:56:48.600 and it's not this is a subtle difference and i hope that i'm communicating it in a way that makes

00:56:56.280 sense there's a difference between breaking rules and a rule being bad because god said thou shalt

00:57:07.400 not and thou shalt and a deterioration of a relationship due to your behavior and your

00:57:15.320 judgment to where people are ashamed of you and disgusted by you or in the inverse to where

00:57:21.000 where they're proud of you and they are celebrating or excited and like cheer you on to victory.

00:57:28.320 It's not about law and breaking rules.

00:57:35.600 It's very much about being noble or not and being a person of worth or a person of negative worth.

00:57:44.460 it's a subtle difference in the judgment from divinity to man, but it's a very, very important

00:57:54.720 one. Yeah. I think that our folk, when they, they go about the doing their, their, uh, duty,

00:58:11.900 doing their, uh, you know, piety and giving forth in, uh, holy tides and what have you. But

00:58:18.480 I think it's, that is a huge, uh, that's upholding culture, upholding tradition,

00:58:26.760 upholding community and all of that. But in between those times, the idea is, is that yes,

00:58:33.200 you should be concerned about what your community thinks about you. You should be concerned about

00:58:38.020 what your ancestors think about you and you should be concerned about the gods and what they think

00:58:43.320 about you. Or, you know, again, you need to, I find that a lot of times perhaps in, when people

00:58:51.980 critique us as, um, uh, faith that they, they don't think that we have the capability or that

00:59:00.600 perhaps they have run into a great amount of people. I have run into people in our faith

00:59:04.840 that I don't think, think about that in that way. They, they, you know, they do things and then

00:59:11.500 they go off and kind of do other things. And it makes no sense. It's like, why would you,

00:59:16.220 you know, go forth and speak about bravery and then run? Or why would you go forth and speak

00:59:20.600 about honor and then, you know, lie and steal and cheat, you know, your folk and things like that? 0.94

00:59:27.080 It's, it's because they're not concerned with understanding that. And I think that that's 0.99

00:59:33.480 something that we deeply need to understand is that that you know i'm not saying that the gods

00:59:38.420 are only concerned about you and your individual soul like a in a christian sense but the idea is

00:59:45.700 that yes your your reputation your accumulative actions are noted the gods do meet out the doom

00:59:53.040 of men and that's a concern you should want them to be proud of you you should try to act in the

00:59:59.940 accordance with nobility if you do that then the rest falls into place so you know be can be

01:00:07.780 concerned consider these things and have it build into your faith again we're not talking about fire

01:00:15.620 and brimstone but we're talking about the value of your worth if the gods see you as worthless that

01:00:22.740 is the worst thing if your ancestors see you as worthless oh and if your folks see you as worthless

01:00:29.300 I mean, this is all three.

01:00:35.160 Take these into consideration.

01:00:37.320 Live right.

01:00:39.740 Honor the gods and ancestors and be good to your community.

01:00:44.020 And it's worth noting, and I realize that we're laboring this stanza quite a bit.

01:00:52.740 This goes well beyond that, but I think it's an important point to be made for people to think on.

01:00:57.040 that is a very very big difference and you know we try as best we can to present also true as a

01:01:08.000 standalone faith which it is but because so much of the audience has a christian

01:01:15.400 lens that they've grown up viewing religion through it's worth making the contrast sometimes

01:01:25.660 In the chat, you know, I see the sin all week and then repent on Sunday is not our way.

01:01:32.840 And, you know, it's a little bit cynical of how Christianity is.

01:01:36.980 That's if you find the loophole in the system, but taken on its most generous.

01:01:46.620 That's the point is in that belief system. 1.00

01:01:50.000 And mankind is so worthless and so servile to their own desires that it's you making the point of acknowledging wrongdoing and then asking your divine creator to let you slide because you're so worthless and you suck so bad. 0.98

01:02:16.020 and that's what a lot of that is based on you're saved by grace not by works because you've already 0.99

01:02:26.340 in that belief system been judged worthless that's why the wages of sin is death and all

01:02:34.040 mankind have sinned that's how that's understood ours is very different you are a noble son or

01:02:40.660 daughter of the iser much is expected of you your judge your forgiveness or not isn't whether we're 1.00

01:02:50.260 not like it's okay he doesn't know any better he's dumb and worthless and incapable of things 1.00

01:02:55.780 you're capable of all things it's whether they can balance the dumb things you do or the ignoble 0.99

01:03:04.420 things you do with the noble things that you do you're not perfect no one is perfect and our gods

01:03:10.260 don't expect perfection but they do expect you to live up to your potential to a significant degree

01:03:18.420 and the more that you are capable of doing that the greater glory you earn from our gods and from

01:03:24.580 your ancestors it's a huge huge difference in the way that we look at the world and i i don't think

01:03:31.860 it can be said enough i seriously hope they clip that for a short because that was like right

01:03:40.260 On this, just right on target.

01:03:49.220 And again, I know we're rolling on that, but that was, that was worth it right there.

01:03:57.040 So moving into 116.

01:04:06.120 I counsel thee, I read thee, Lowell Faftner.

01:04:10.260 and hear thou my counsel hear thou my read prophet thou hast if thou hearest great thy

01:04:17.540 gain if thou learnest if over mountains or gulfs thou feign or would would fare or travel

01:04:25.780 wouldst go look well to thy food for the way

01:04:29.220 that is

01:04:32.760 super

01:04:36.180 simple

01:04:37.940 the idea again

01:04:39.740 if you are to travel

01:04:41.180 your provisions

01:04:44.020 that which you need

01:04:45.840 should be

01:04:47.000 understood

01:04:49.180 planned out

01:04:50.640 and placed

01:04:53.880 in

01:04:54.360 correct order

01:04:56.640 your itinerary of survival

01:04:58.780 should be clear and clean whenever you step out that door, especially for long, long traveling.

01:05:06.300 So I, I, I remember there was kind of a, I, was there like some sort of a

01:05:11.180 trend going on about, I think they were called like airport dads.

01:05:19.460 Um, I don't know if that's, if that was the correct thing, but the idea of the,

01:05:23.820 the person that was, you know, making sure that everything was set up and everything was

01:05:29.200 going in accordance and everything was kind of figured out. That's what this stanza is saying

01:05:34.780 is, you know, if you go out and take on any venture, the idea is that you should plan out

01:05:42.000 that which sustains you. You can't account for everything, but you can't account for the fact

01:05:46.980 that you will need nourishment, sustenance, shelter, basic little things in order to continue

01:05:52.940 want so focus on what you can control before you head out that way you're given the better tools

01:06:01.420 to account for things you cannot control as emperor napoleon said but he said it in french

01:06:09.820 an army marches on its stomach that's a thing logistics

01:06:14.300 that is the difference between success and failure is supply line and having resources

01:06:22.940 so depending on the audience he might have said it in italian oh

01:06:31.120 um 117 i read thee lord fafner and hear thou my read prophet thou hast if thou hearest great

01:06:45.700 thy gain if thou learnest. An evil man thou must not let bring ought of ill to thee, for an evil

01:06:54.540 man will never make reward for a worthy thought. Consider the people you associate with and

01:07:11.100 consider their motivations consider their drives and seek not those that show intent and action

01:07:23.740 of an evil nature now the word used in um in old norse's consider their drives which is again

01:07:33.020 woefulness balefulness um and and evil um this this uh poisonous sense so

01:07:45.660 really this is talking about like again who you make your friends with if you see

01:07:51.820 these people and they're you know doing evil things if they're doing bad things um

01:07:59.980 you know, don't seek them. Don't take counsel with them. I think that this one thing I will

01:08:07.720 definitely say about modern times is a lot of people when they are with a group of people or

01:08:15.940 certain people and that person expects something out of you perhaps to be better or to be more

01:08:23.760 noble or to act in an accordance or with discipline and so on and so forth. A lot of

01:08:29.580 people find reasons to spurn those people that want you to be better that expect more out of you

01:08:36.860 you need to look more at the actions of the person not necessarily what they're just asking of you

01:08:43.380 because i think that gets a lot of people into an emotional sense like oh this person's just always

01:08:47.540 hounding me or so on and so forth um no they if they want you to be better you can't don't i see

01:08:53.980 a lot of people kind of turn people that want you to be better in because they obligate you to these

01:09:00.400 things that you, you know, you, you look at them or concoct an idea to make them the bad guy. And

01:09:08.400 I think I've seen that enough that I, I feel the need to, to bring it up instead of looking at the

01:09:15.220 deeds of the person, looking at what they've done to build their life, look at how they treat other

01:09:20.480 people look how they treat their their wives or their husbands or their children look how they

01:09:24.880 move about in the world if you see that no matter if they want you to be better or if they don't

01:09:30.300 and don't pressure you you're looking at the root of that person and what they are if you see them

01:09:35.760 you know like strangely something's going on they keep moving from job to job and you don't know why

01:09:43.880 And, you know, there's just odd things about their living situations and their habits are kind of not good.

01:09:53.260 And then, you know, that's just on the surface.

01:09:55.120 And then as you get to know them, like, there's a lot of questionable things going on.

01:09:58.340 That's probably a good time to, you know, bank away from that person.

01:10:05.580 Yeah, could you go right into reading the next stanza?

01:10:08.840 And then I'll comment.

01:10:10.820 But I think they're paired together well.

01:10:13.880 Excellent. Yep.

01:10:16.440 Um, so 118, uh, I saw a man who was wounded sore by an evil woman's word, a lying tongue, his death blow launched and no word of truth there was.

01:10:36.660 and it's worth noting that this one does not have the intro of you know council to load fafner um

01:10:49.920 but yes i think this both kind of is about considering who you you know uh

01:10:57.600 who you pair with who you hold company with in this case you know uh

01:11:05.280 a woman kind of uh lying and manipulating not just the person or the subject of the warning but

01:11:16.720 everyone around them everyone takes i think any of us can can identify a story in which

01:11:24.560 and i think men and women both can unanimously say together that they have seen situations where

01:11:30.640 there was a woman that kind of turned people towards or against, and you didn't get the

01:11:38.080 whole story. And again, our society really does lean on wanting to help the woman immediately.

01:11:44.400 And many years later, you find out it wasn't the way it was originally laid out. 0.52

01:11:53.360 So first, we, certainly the men amongst us, but I think all of us know that that's true.

01:12:00.640 But secondly, both of these instances are by evil people. Don't be a fool. Don't trust that evil people will play by the same rules that you play by. 0.99

01:12:22.540 a lot of people go blindly in this world assuming naively that you know people won't lie or they

01:12:33.960 won't cheat or you know if you just follow the rules everything will be okay because you know

01:12:40.180 of this just and this is it's hurtful because some very genuine good people are a victim of

01:12:49.680 their own goodness because they can't conceive of an existence outside of those basic moral codes

01:12:57.660 but this is in many ways this entire poem is to disabuse you of that kind of ignorance when you

01:13:10.700 interact with a group do not trust especially people that you've identified as evil people

01:13:19.820 that they're going to treat you fairly and honestly the world is not fair and

01:13:27.100 don't don't put your where it's at all possible and at all avoidable do not put your faith

01:13:39.520 your reputation or your destiny in the hands of evil people because they will not treat you fairly

01:13:51.260 trust that people are honest when they show you their true selves when they have identified that

01:13:59.500 they are bad people trust them to behave badly and so many people get slapped around by life

01:14:07.180 because they blindly trust in systems that have shown dishonesty towards them.

01:14:18.380 They assume that, well, it's all okay because the police are the good guys.

01:14:23.360 They're going to treat me fairly.

01:14:24.960 Or because, oh, the media, well, if they did a story,

01:14:28.340 then they're going to tell the truth about me.

01:14:30.140 Or whatever the case is, fairness and common decency are not nearly as common as many of us have grown up believing.

01:14:44.620 Be aware and know that going in.

01:14:48.660 yeah the the words used here and again i'm just re-emphasizing in old norse the word ill or

01:15:03.800 illin or illur or uh illum again the context of the grammatic but the overall essence of ill

01:15:12.120 is not illness by sickness but wickedness and evil and um but i think it's kind of worth noting

01:15:19.620 that even though our language has a different meaning to the word ill it does kind of have a

01:15:25.180 context to the idea that these people are sick there's um something wrong with them and i think

01:15:33.180 that's kind of interesting that evil evil can be very much like a sickness and it can spread

01:15:39.700 And again, considering who you're with, you end up, you know, allowing for things or doing things or getting convinced that certain things that they do are okay.

01:15:52.560 That's, again, it can spread.

01:15:54.180 So, let's see, we're on 119.

01:16:05.000 I read thee, Lord Fafnir, and hear thou my read.

01:16:09.700 profit thou hast if thou hearest great thy gain if thou learnest if a friend thou hast

01:16:17.940 whom thou fully will trust then fair to find him oft for brambles grow and waving grass

01:16:26.580 on the rarely trodden road

01:16:28.020 and again this kind of alludes to the earlier um section uh of the the uh proper guest work

01:16:41.300 is that you should you know again seek out a friend even though they're far away

01:16:47.100 um because of you know it's it's always worth the faring forth this is the same thing

01:16:55.260 If you have a friend, seek them out. Otherwise, blockages between you will grow. The brambles grow and the waving grass. So the pathway between you and your friend that you do not travel often allows for things to creep in.

01:17:18.320 And I think that's another thing that we really should consider when it's unfortunate.

01:17:24.660 I think everyone has a certain sense of amount.

01:17:28.060 You might meet someone and because you don't see them, they forget about you or they just don't like you anymore.

01:17:36.260 It's like that quickly.

01:17:38.280 And that's, you know, something to be said.

01:17:41.280 But if you have a true friend and sometimes you don't see them for a long time and then when you see them, it's great, it's amazing, but it's still you should take the consideration of not relying on the benefit of that.

01:17:55.800 You should, you know, try to seek out their counsel, learn about their life and more so than just social media, you know, learning about and being with that person or speaking to that person or, you know, again, exchanging conversation and opinions.

01:18:14.240 Sometimes even with opinions that you have a difference, that's a huge sign that you can discuss and talk and build a friendship off of that's outside of just the surface of social media or the echo chambering of ideas.

01:18:29.880 You're really building a kinship with someone with a sense of mutualism and benefit for each other that I think is worth considering.

01:18:43.340 So if you find that. Another thing to consider in, you know, it's sad that we have to look at things this way, but there is a wisdom to it.

01:18:54.700 We've all known people that are very easily influenced by the last person they spoke to.

01:19:03.000 You know, if you're around and you're ever present, they have one view of you.

01:19:06.960 But if you're distant and you have somebody whispering in their ear negative things about you.

01:19:13.340 you would be surprised how much of an impact that has whereas if you stay in the picture and you

01:19:20.620 stay relevant and ever present in their life it's much harder for gossip and things to take root

01:19:34.300 but yeah keep once you have a friendship nurture it build it don't take it for granted and don't let

01:19:39.580 it uh don't let it go fallow um good friends are hard to come by as you know that's also a big

01:19:48.620 theme of the piece that we're that we're reading as we'll see in our next stanza

01:19:58.860 so in 120 i read the load fafner and hear thou my read prophet thou hast if thou hearest

01:20:07.580 great thy gain if thou learnest a good man find to hold him in friendship and give heed to his

01:20:15.060 healing charms so the word uh that's used in healing charms is excuse me leak not gold

01:20:25.200 and leak means body or it could also mean healing um it's where we get the word for

01:20:32.460 leek, the garlic, or garlic, spear leek, and also leeches, because again, it's medicine craft.

01:20:40.360 But I think in this case, it's worth contexting the idea of the beneficial things that are done

01:20:52.280 to help. So take into consideration the deeds that this friend does to benefit the friendship

01:21:02.440 or to benefit you. Um, I, it makes me think of like, when you have a friend who genuinely is

01:21:10.000 happy for you when you win or when you gain something that, that friend, that's a healing

01:21:16.420 charm, in my opinion, is that there's a context to the character of your friend who takes great

01:21:24.600 joy in, you know, your success as well. And he wants you to succeed more. He's not jealous of

01:21:31.880 you. He's not trying to steal your success. He simply is happy for you. That is a healing

01:21:39.100 sense. I know the word

01:21:41.180 kind of

01:21:42.960 lends towards the idea of

01:21:45.200 healing spells,

01:21:47.740 but I think that

01:21:49.340 again, the context of this

01:21:50.640 may mean the words and the deeds

01:21:53.280 done to keep health in the

01:21:55.400 relationship and to keep health

01:21:57.400 in the friendship. And

01:21:59.160 if you find someone like that,

01:22:01.480 don't ever discount that.

01:22:03.580 If you

01:22:04.460 find this person and they

01:22:07.420 are genuinely

01:22:08.900 your friend and are are trying to help or give advice or uh celebrate with you or do show up

01:22:17.160 you know they show up when no one else shows up or they get something they carry the ball across

01:22:22.340 the line when you really need them to don't discount that stuff um it's you know and the

01:22:29.180 stanza is basically saying that is that you know if you have a friend don't discount the little

01:22:33.260 things that they do to help you so long as it's done again not in a manipulative way or

01:22:38.820 something like that a genuinely good person never take for granted some of the little things that

01:22:44.500 they they do and show that they are a true friend yeah that's the theme over these next couple of

01:22:56.880 stanzas that's valuable is the true value there is in a real friend and here they're not merely

01:23:07.060 speaking of an acquaintance but someone you can genuinely share your true self with and

01:23:14.740 have a strong friendship man is the joy of man and this is very apparent here especially when

01:23:24.580 the poem spends so much time talking about all of the uh

01:23:30.420 ill-intended things out there meant to do you harm and to cause bad things to happen to you

01:23:37.060 it's very important to take note of the positive things.

01:23:42.180 There's a lot of admonitions of things not to do.

01:23:46.000 It's really, it stands out when there's something,

01:23:50.760 absolutely, you should do this.

01:23:53.940 Absolutely, you need to make friends.

01:23:57.160 Absolutely, you need to value your friends.

01:23:59.680 You should treat your friends a certain way.

01:24:04.520 Especially because it's sparing.

01:24:07.060 in the album all we should pay special attention to it

01:24:17.540 and there's some a little bit of an interesting uh translational thing um

01:24:23.460 as we move to to 121 that i wanted to it's not you know massively uh crazy or anything but it's

01:24:32.260 is worth noting again how translations work and how you you need to consider the differentiation

01:24:41.060 between old norse and who is translating it because people will translate with different

01:24:46.420 intents and i think there is a case for that here um so 121

01:24:54.500 I read thee, counsel thee, Lodfafnir, and hear thou my counsel, my read.

01:25:05.480 Profit thou hast, if thou hearest, great thy gain, if thou learnest, be never the first to break with thy friend, the bond that holds you both.

01:25:16.800 Care eats the heart, if thou canst not speak to another all thy thought.

01:25:24.500 And I mean, I think that's pretty straightforward is one act in accordance of nobility and virtue and goodness and moralness.

01:25:34.140 Don't be the first to break the bonds of friendship.

01:25:36.760 Don't be the one that, you know, does the wrong that creates the fissure.

01:25:43.400 So it's a, it's an ongoing sense of maintaining.

01:25:46.840 Don't be that guy.

01:25:48.800 You're not wanting the other person to be that person, but you, you can control you.

01:25:53.380 don't be that person um and then on the second part care eats the heart if thou can't speak to

01:26:00.620 another all thy thought this is true and i but there's one interesting part the word sorg in

01:26:09.240 old norse sorg is not care it's sorrow so the translation in the old norse sorrow eats the heart

01:26:22.180 if you cannot say all of your thought, all of that which comes to your mind.

01:26:30.700 And again, in the Old Norse, at the end there, there's the word hug, which is thought, again,

01:26:36.880 a component of the soul, huger. So I'm just, you know, pointing that out for people to see

01:26:42.260 its usage, even outside of just talking about the soul, is that it's talking about thought.

01:26:49.460 so sorrow even though he uses the word care and i always i that just didn't make sense to me

01:26:58.760 um and i don't know why he chose that word care eats the heart i never understood it

01:27:05.840 but sork means sorrow or sadness or despair so despair eats the heart if you can't speak

01:27:12.920 to your friend and say your full thoughts you can't tell them how you truly feel and i think

01:27:19.520 that's something worth or not even feel think would be a better word because if you can tell

01:27:26.920 you can tell your friend how you feel all the time we give each other opinions and sometimes

01:27:30.000 our opinions are rise and fall like the waves it's about your thoughts it's about your your

01:27:36.840 considerations, deep considerations towards your friends should be honest. I can joke all day

01:27:46.480 about a team or a person and we can just rib and jab and sling little barbs at them about

01:27:59.180 whatever they're doing or whatever. Those are emotional comments and those can go up and down

01:28:03.300 And they are definitely contextual. You've got like locker room talk, if you will, or if you have certain spheres, like I know I can talk to, you know, people from the Marine Corps differently than I can talk to people at my work. It's very different.

01:28:18.140 But this is really talking about thoughts and contemplations and considerations that are deeply considered.

01:28:26.700 Those things that have merit and are not rising or falling based on the situation.

01:28:30.900 You should be able to tell your friend openly and honestly.

01:28:34.560 And if you can't, you lock that up and it eats at you and or vice versa.

01:28:39.220 You end up watching them walk off the cliff.

01:28:42.880 And if you had only just spoken up, perhaps they would consider.

01:28:46.240 again it also means about the way it's received your friends you should seek out friendships

01:28:53.500 with people who can also receive your thoughts whether they're criticisms or whether they're

01:29:00.040 perspectives or whatever they might be as long as they're well thought out you should have people

01:29:05.140 that receive them and internalize them uh that give that's the reciprocation of that value of

01:29:12.960 the friendship it's your ability to speak honestly and then having the ability to to take

01:29:18.160 that and not oh i'm gonna take all my toys and go home you know emotional and and vice versa again

01:29:25.040 and what's laid out before you should be again implied at you so if they say something honestly

01:29:31.920 and truly thought out you know you should take it into consideration and not you know whine like a

01:29:39.200 you know a little tit with a skin knee and go home

01:29:45.600 yeah it's svan and i have talked on this broadcast uh many times before about the

01:29:58.800 vocalization of thought or intent

01:30:04.560 there is

01:30:08.640 it doesn't exist out in the world as long as it's in your head.

01:30:15.660 But there's great power to it when you speak it into existence.

01:30:20.760 We've talked about that being, you know, one of the very roots of magic is speaking intent into existence.

01:30:30.820 When you have things that you think or that you feel powerfully, but you can't tell anyone,

01:30:38.640 they metastasize and they burn you from the inside out if you don't have someone

01:30:50.680 that you can share your thoughts with, that you can speak your mind to,

01:30:57.040 that you can share your feelings with, that you can speak openly the things that are in your head

01:31:03.280 and let them out if you don't it burns you up and it's soul killing over time um

01:31:15.920 loneliness is a is a profound thing and it is a killer literally

01:31:23.680 if you don't have someone you can connect to on that level you you know i mentioned this

01:31:27.840 last broadcast you'd be surrounded by people but still feel completely and totally alone if you

01:31:34.160 can't open your heart and your mind to people without without fear and as the poem mentioned

01:31:45.280 so many times people are people are looking to hurt you all the time so we get very cautious

01:31:54.880 things that we say, very guarded in the things that we say. You need good friends that you can

01:32:02.140 share the things that are most important in life with. And it is a profound human need

01:32:12.420 that I don't think we appreciate as much as we should.

01:32:17.980 you know there's there's a couple of applications here that I think are important I've known a lot

01:32:27.100 of people who go through really difficult things and who have a lot of mental health struggles

01:32:35.980 but are fearful and can't speak to people who are ostensibly there to help them because they're

01:32:45.840 afraid of a consequence. They don't have that feeling that they can truly open themselves

01:32:52.460 and share. Because once you put it in the world, you make it real.

01:32:57.800 You know, you go, every time you go to the doctor, I don't know if they do that where you're at,

01:33:01.900 but they certainly do here in Nevada. There's like this list of things they need to ask you.

01:33:06.320 And they're like, do you have suicidal thoughts? Do you have this? I wonder how many people

01:33:11.920 actually answer that honestly. If you were having suicidal thoughts, what is the consequence

01:33:17.560 of, and I know people that have had this thought, but what if I tell them?

01:33:23.780 What are they going to do with the information? Once I've said it out loud, now I'm this crazy

01:33:28.400 person that, you know, all of this stuff. That's a very real thing. There's a lot of,

01:33:34.040 there's a lot of those things in life. I think about it on a much more mundane level,

01:33:40.680 but something that hits me really personally is my mom.

01:33:47.720 Her whole life, she was very, very good at making acquaintances.

01:33:54.200 She had lots and lots of acquaintances that she called friends,

01:34:01.300 but the depth of their friendship was always so very superficial

01:34:06.260 because there was that fear of openness.

01:34:09.220 and that fear of really, you know, what's going on.

01:34:12.880 So they bonded around work or around, you know, other things they had in common.

01:34:21.500 But I watched the pain in dealing with that

01:34:25.220 when she didn't have people that she could actually open up to.

01:34:33.220 And it's a real thing.

01:34:36.680 And it's just I've seen this set of verses and one a little bit later really hits close to home because I've seen so many people struggle with this exact thing, the lack of the ability to completely be open and share oneself with someone.

01:34:57.380 If you keep all that inside all the time, it burns you up.

01:35:00.900 And I've seen that unfortunately happen to a number of people.

01:35:03.560 and i've seen people who have foregone help that would have been very very beneficial

01:35:09.720 because they weren't in a spot and did not have a relationship to where they could

01:35:13.720 truly open up with what was going on so we all need that and this speaks about

01:35:20.200 the tremendous value a close friend who you can truly share of yourself with adds to your life

01:35:25.160 There's a little bit of a cultural context, um, that I think this next one will also hit.

01:35:40.580 Um, and I, I, but just an interesting point, um, one 23,

01:35:49.520 for never thou mayest we're on 122 oh sorry i jumped ahead i was looking up stuff

01:36:00.720 sometimes when when you're uh when you're talking to i like try to

01:36:05.520 really quickly grab something to consider in translation and then i end up trying to go back

01:36:13.260 and getting lost so thanks for getting me on the course here so uh i read thee lord fafner and

01:36:21.440 hear thou my read prophet thou hast if thou hearest great thy gain if thou learnest exchange 1.00

01:36:28.300 of words with a witless ape thou must never make that is straightforward don't argue with stupid 1.00

01:36:37.200 people. Don't invest the time. Don't take the considerations of them to be important. 1.00

01:36:49.920 Just, it is not worth it or what have you to have that investment. And that is just about

01:36:57.840 as straightforward as we could get. The word appa is the word ape. And the word appa,

01:37:04.160 again in context um doesn't i mean it eventually evolved into the usage of

01:37:12.880 like a primate or uh an actual you know species but the word appa in 0.97

01:37:20.060 in context of the time is again a dullard um you know someone who is uh witless someone who is 0.91

01:37:31.980 you know, again, ignoble, that would be probably the best word, is an appa or, you know, is a 0.94

01:37:40.340 is a rudimentary conceptual or a rudimentary person or a person who has concepts that are

01:37:49.080 rudimentary and fall short of nobility. So don't don't don't exchange words with with these people

01:37:57.800 who are, you know, clearly not even trying to be better.

01:38:03.200 They just seem to be more.

01:38:04.780 We are particularly at risk of this now, much more so than when this was written, in the

01:38:13.220 age of social media.

01:38:15.740 We need to always remember that equality is a lie.

01:38:21.140 No one is equal.

01:38:22.280 make value judgments and assessments of the people that you listen to or don't

01:38:28.540 and keep that in mind we conversation has been so woefully democratized that on the internet

01:38:39.260 any random junior high kid in mom's basement can argue with the world's foremost expert on any

01:38:48.500 subject and the mob gets to literally in an ape-like fashion hooting and hollering about

01:38:57.180 you know who dissed who and it stopped it stops becoming a dignified conversation with

01:39:04.800 people that have status to be having the discussion and it just becomes who can score

01:39:12.680 talking points, or who makes the best sound bite, or who's the most persistent and obnoxious

01:39:19.040 and has the most time to spend on the internet crafting clever or not so clever barbs.

01:39:26.680 If you're looking for universal approval of anything, one of the other things is there's

01:39:31.720 so many conversations that we have online are very often subject to so many onlookers

01:39:41.200 if you're swayed by the random churls out there complaining someone will always we live in a big

01:39:55.680 enough world with six billion people someone will always complain about everything you do

01:40:01.880 there is nothing you can possibly do or say that will be pleasing to every single person 1.00

01:40:08.800 out there who hears it and you won't get somebody with something stupid to say. And it's very easy 0.99

01:40:15.500 to allow yourself to be mentally pinned down by that or oppressed by it. Make value judgments on

01:40:22.680 who you listen to and who you don't, and don't argue with apes. And I think that can be taken 1.00

01:40:29.620 it many ways. Take it how you see fit. Heed the read. Heed the read. I like that.

01:40:45.120 So now we're moving into the one that I was kind of looking at.

01:40:48.240 But, um, uh, one 23 for never thou mayest from an evil man, a good recruit requital get, but a good man off the greatest love through words of praise will win thee.

01:41:06.380 now uh the the first part's pretty straightforward if you know in the company of evil men you will

01:41:14.160 never get any good um speech uh or or in essence i would even argue they would say not good things

01:41:27.480 or they would stay in silence and i'll get to that in a second but a good man if you

01:41:34.400 you will win praise and you will win, um, high speech from a good man that you have

01:41:43.620 catered a friendship with. And I was looking at the word, uh, lekenfassen, the, the, uh,

01:41:52.240 uh, the, the word itself, meaning like longing or, um, a kind of sense of, of loyalty is really

01:42:01.480 what i'm kind of reading it as loyalty through praise and that's why that second one through

01:42:08.960 words of praise will win me is uh is kind of an interesting way that he wrote it but in essence

01:42:15.200 you'll never get good speech or an evil man will never speak goodly of you around others

01:42:23.820 a good man will always stand up for you if you again meet goodness with goodness

01:42:31.500 but the idea is that you can't bank on the value of people um

01:42:36.840 you know in the long run if you don't look at their moral makeup if they're a moralist person

01:42:44.380 you will often find them well uh if if someone's speaking ill of you they'll agree

01:42:51.300 i mean at the at the least they'll say nothing but sometimes they'll agree or they'll hop on

01:42:57.020 the bandwagon it's that whole thing of like the moment you leave your friends are just kind of

01:43:01.180 or you know the people you're you're hanging out with or the people that you're acquainted with

01:43:06.880 immediately start talking about you those people are not people that you should build friendships

01:43:11.860 with those people you can't rely on you can't get good speech from them they won't stand up for you

01:43:16.840 in times of need at the same time if you take care to garner the friendship of a good person

01:43:25.480 they will always speak up for you they will always consider their loyalty to you

01:43:30.840 in placement of whatever's being thrown down in front of them

01:43:40.040 and swan can you read the uh following verse because i'd like to talk after that and my

01:43:46.120 My daughter came up here.

01:43:47.040 He's got something to tell me.

01:43:50.000 So with one 24 mingled is love when a man can speak to another,

01:43:58.620 all his thoughts, not is so bad as false to be.

01:44:03.800 No friend speaks only fair.

01:44:07.160 So there's a couple of things about this.

01:44:08.940 And I, I, I think back to certain people that I've talked to have spoken about,

01:44:14.780 um there was a um a film critic who who spoke about the difference between the time machine

01:44:24.380 uh from the 1960s and the time machine that i think was made in the late 90s early 2000s

01:44:30.260 and he was kind of just ripping apart the differences between our society and the way

01:44:35.420 that we view things and how much there was more of a noble sense in the older uh version of the

01:44:42.620 movie, The Time Machine. And one thing that really stuck out to him, and he brought it to my attention,

01:44:48.380 the audience's attention, was the friend that waited for his friend to return to the time that

01:44:57.400 he left. And how this was seen in those days as a simple virtue of friendship, that a man

01:45:06.580 would stand guard, would hold troth to a friend with a sense of wanting their friend to be well,

01:45:18.440 hoping to see them again, and that was normal. Somewhere along the way, this has turned into

01:45:26.000 some sort of sexual orientation, as they like to often say, and that makes it different,

01:45:34.980 And they have done this with everything. And so a simple sense of our, whether it's the relationship between Horatio and Hamlet, you know, they try to make that into some sort of immoral, perverted kind of thing, instead of it simply being that they are truly close friends.

01:46:03.700 and again we you know we hear people say that you know when they talk about love and how the greeks

01:46:09.320 had all these different types of love the love of a friend is is clearly there but now apparently

01:46:15.800 they're changing it to like all forms of love or some sort of like orientation and i i it's kind of

01:46:23.380 on it's disgusting and and just very very trite that people can do this on such a grand scale

01:46:32.140 to kind of pervert these things so now if you have a close friend um you know it's now oh it's

01:46:40.320 an orientation that's the way you really are and it's like no it's having that bonds of brotherhood

01:46:45.920 uh can be very very powerful it is not the same as having the bond of your wife or a girlfriend

01:46:53.080 or something of that nature but it can be equally powerful in the sense of what it requires you

01:46:59.960 to do in your life. Um, I've met lots of my friends and friends in the past who have gone

01:47:07.700 to great lengths to help a fellow friend, even if, well, his loved one has to kind of take a hit for

01:47:15.620 it. She might have to be gone, you know, away for there are like a long spans of separation,

01:47:21.240 but he's got to go and help his friend. And he's relying on the love of his wife or his girlfriend

01:47:25.880 to understand and to that you know to survive this drought and he goes through this long

01:47:32.120 you know time to help his friend and then when his friend is good he goes back to his wife and

01:47:39.400 then tries to you know build that gulf again there is an equal sense of power and in the different

01:47:47.220 forms of love and i hate the fact that everything is now just being turned into the immoral

01:47:53.960 yeah love does not equal sodomy don't let them weaponize words that's why swan and i you'll find

01:48:05.400 most of the time when we try to really narrow in on a word don't ever look up definitions

01:48:10.920 because definitions have been co-opted by communists and uh ill-meaning people look for

01:48:19.540 etymology etymology teaches you the root of words how they evolved where they came from

01:48:26.820 and it's much more informative to their deeper meaning than

01:48:33.940 the politically motivated definitions you run into sometime love and i think that

01:48:41.540 sometimes there are just evil currents in the world and it's not always a planned attack

01:48:50.660 but there's something fundamentally sinister about

01:48:59.620 manipulating the word love to

01:49:01.780 get it used less and i think subtly get it practiced less um love between brothers love

01:49:15.000 between men that have deep emotion and deep bond and caring with one another is fundamental

01:49:23.540 to any functional male society love between father and son love you see it in the family

01:49:35.140 and then it extends to people that are so close to you you see them in a way as family and you

01:49:40.020 have love for them it's you see how quickly the left likes to malign people as being hateful

01:49:51.780 or say that a grouping of individuals is a hate group but they try to take away your ability to be

01:50:01.140 a group that's bonded around love the afa fundamentally is built on love love

01:50:07.780 for our gods love for our folk and love for one another um svan is one of my dearest friends

01:50:17.060 i love you swan and i say that proudly and i mean it um that's important and we take something away

01:50:26.180 from men if you're somehow disallowed from bonding on that kind of level

01:50:36.180 and i think it's important that we stay on guard for that

01:50:38.820 yeah i mean how how can we not have uh we we as friends have seen so much and been through so much

01:50:50.720 and the idea is like again if you needed help um and there there's there's service to the folk i

01:50:57.640 would definitely fly out if somebody was like i need help but there's also people in our church

01:51:03.160 too that are like we have seen so much we've been through so much they called you know it's like

01:51:09.640 plane uh train car however it's gonna happen traveling miles doing these things and that

01:51:17.000 that that phelos as the greeks called it the the love between friends has i think yeah it's been

01:51:25.000 co-opted switched out and i think it's one it it reduces the value of the usage of phelos in

01:51:31.880 society amongst you know normal people and it also attempts to make all love their orientations

01:51:40.600 which in essence tries to normalize it and then so now everything becomes that and that is like

01:51:48.180 you said truly sinister of ill people and i like how you use the word ill because we're kind of

01:51:53.100 again hitting that again but it's you know these the the biggest i think form of of this what we're

01:52:02.620 what they're speaking of what's being spoken of in the verses about the idea that a true friend

01:52:10.380 will be able to speak to you in truth doesn't always have to tell you what you you want to hear

01:52:18.700 but we'll tell you what you need to hear and that is a friend that you should cultivate

01:52:23.920 like troth with because if you end up getting these people who are often silent in your

01:52:31.160 suffering or they tell you only you know what you want to hear and only speak to you when you're

01:52:36.500 you know on the winning side of whatever you're trying to do how far how long i mean and i think

01:52:43.700 for young men and when i was younger i didn't know this i i would love to have you know i you know

01:52:52.860 reading this of course i had it written down and i really wish i had read into this more often

01:52:58.580 sporadically throughout my life especially my younger years but now as an older man i realize

01:53:03.800 this so much more and i think it's important that uh you know we introduce young men and

01:53:11.940 young women to the how them all to understand these uh you know nuggets of wisdom that will

01:53:18.660 help them for a long time so you know find a friend a good friend and make sure that you

01:53:25.540 realize that you know they they will speak their thoughts they should be able to be to be truthful

01:53:31.720 with you and not false and sometimes being truthful doesn't mean that they're going to be

01:53:36.560 friendly or in this usage fair their uh their words may have well truth kind of lined in it

01:53:46.640 and you got to be ready for that and that's the kind of friend you should so i got i got

01:53:53.440 it was important for me to comment on the weaponizing of words and concepts

01:53:58.400 and yeah to stave off that current but to the meaning of this stands up also it talks about

01:54:08.300 a friend a real friend isn't someone who just tells you what you want to hear

01:54:18.680 as a matter of fact

01:54:20.240 yeah it says not is so bad as being false if you are in a position that you are someone's friend

01:54:37.160 and they trust you to be their sounding board for their thoughts and feelings you have an 0.69

01:54:44.460 obligation to give them honest feedback doesn't mean be hurtful and be a jerk but i would much 0.93

01:54:54.220 rather my friend tell me something that i need to hear rather than me go out and be embarrassed

01:55:02.940 on we owe each other as men but women owe each other this as well and women often struggle

01:55:09.900 specifically with this dynamic of interpersonal relationship more than men do.

01:55:17.100 I mentioned my mom earlier on her difficulty cultivating friends that she could truly open

01:55:24.920 up to. One of the reasons for that that I saw a lot growing up and as an adult with her and her

01:55:32.220 her quote-unquote friends her acquaintances there was an inability to hear or speak honestly if there 0.89

01:55:41.380 was a concern or someone had negative feedback in her group of female school teachers from the 0.95

01:55:50.180 Anchorage School District if one of them said the slightest thing that wasn't lockstep of hey

01:55:57.440 everything you do is great you're the greatest person ever that's the greatest thing I ever

01:56:00.920 heard oh wow that's the most delicious thing i've ever eaten

01:56:06.600 the slightest word to the contrary would end these relationships because they were all so very very

01:56:13.720 brittle we need to extend the courtesy to our friends to be able to take honest feedback and

01:56:23.000 not let that be the breaking of our friendship part of being open enough to share the deeper

01:56:30.360 thoughts that you have with your friend is your ability to hear their deep thoughts and feedback

01:56:39.720 on what you've said and not cause that to be a breakage of your friendship when it talked earlier

01:56:46.920 in a couple verses previous about don't be the one to break the bonds of friendship first yes

01:56:53.880 don't cut off your friends don't be the first person to cut off the friendship but also

01:57:00.360 Don't be so brittle that you're quick to take offense and quick to discard your friendship.

01:57:07.280 Be able to hear things that you may not want to hear without holding that against your friend.

01:57:14.960 It's so I do this thing during Sambul and it's it's weird how these things run kind of full circle sometimes in these in these conversations that we do. 0.97

01:57:26.540 When we talk about the position of the thuler in assemble, I make the point when I designate someone as having that position that, hey, if this person stops you on one of your toasts because it's out of line, it's not because they're being a jerk.

01:57:44.560 it's literally because that's what i assigned them that they have to do so it's not them doing it

01:57:51.440 it's me doing it through them because that's a task i gave them to give them an out because

01:57:56.000 people are so very quick to take offense if someone speaks truth to them and tells them

01:58:02.000 if and when they get out of line so that is an obligation with that relationship is for you to

01:58:09.760 have friends you are truly able to share yourself with and share your innermost thoughts you have

01:58:16.240 to be able to take well-meaning and respectful criticism and feedback that you may not want

01:58:24.080 that's how that relationship is healthy and that's what keeps friendship healthy

01:58:29.680 between men and very especially between women

01:58:39.760 oh and a side note we got a um

01:58:47.040 hold on i'm trying to find the comment over on the side

01:59:01.440 uh from russ h excellent stream gentlemen deep and powerful stuff just wanted to say how much

01:59:07.200 i appreciate your knowledge and genuineness um hey russ thank you for that thank you for saying so

01:59:14.080 um it's fun and i love doing this it's something that we look forward to all week and i'm glad this

01:59:22.160 is meaningful to you i'm glad this is helpful i hope folks enjoy it i hope it's entertaining but

01:59:28.480 i also hope that it's meaningful and folks are getting value out of it um and it's really important

01:59:35.360 to me at least to be as genuine as possible

01:59:39.680 because that's when stuff gets real and i think that's something that's lacking in the world

01:59:48.160 today and uh yeah i always try to give you give you my most genuine self on here and

01:59:54.720 and i hope that translates well thank you for your feedback we appreciate it

01:59:58.080 the beauty of this medium as opposed to like writing or a essay or even a scripted kind of

02:00:10.160 talking to a camera is this is me and you and the audience kind of just whatever is happening

02:00:16.700 happens whatever said is said and and there is no other path to go but to be openly honest about

02:00:23.440 whatever we're, you know, discussing.

02:00:27.180 So I think that's a great value

02:00:29.080 that you can't get out of other mediums.

02:00:31.080 You know, that's the thing,

02:00:32.280 and I belabor this on here over much sometimes,

02:00:38.380 but I think it's really important.

02:00:42.140 The point of reading these texts,

02:00:45.340 the value in them,

02:00:47.860 we are practicing a religion

02:00:53.740 we're not studying an obscure point of medieval early medieval history

02:01:01.420 and the difference means everything um those points are really interesting and for the history

02:01:08.780 nerd in most all of us that's cool but no these are deep truths these are deep pieces of wisdom

02:01:18.460 from the all father that it's really important to internalize and i'll say this

02:01:25.240 i am so thankful that we are doing this because i mean i've probably read the have them all

02:01:32.980 i mean double digits of times certainly every single time and specifically this one when we're

02:01:41.440 going through it together, things, truths make themselves apparent in very different ways every

02:01:49.820 time I read it. And I would encourage everybody to, you know, every few years, pick it up and go

02:01:55.360 back through it because in things, you will hear different truth in it at different seasons in your

02:02:02.520 life. And I'm really happy that we're, we're doing this together. Yeah, this, this has probably been

02:02:10.640 the most uh again piece by piece introspective and kind of more about looking back like every

02:02:16.720 time we do this because i we don't do a lot of prep for every episode but what ends up happening

02:02:23.060 is i end up going back and looking at things and going oh wow okay so yeah that and i i didn't

02:02:29.880 think of it that way before but based on like what matt was saying and kind of this translation

02:02:35.300 And I can kind of see it being in this context now, or at least in my life too, especially, like you said, kind of frames itself. Wisdom frames itself in accordance to the timing. Truth isn't a lion. It's a pizza and it's really depends on when it's delivered.

02:02:53.060 um this uh so this next one here is is interesting and i was i was just looking

02:03:07.700 at some things here um i believe we're on um 125 yes and we have um

02:03:17.940 um i read the load fafner and hear thou my read prophet thou has if thou hearest great thy gain

02:03:30.240 if thou learnest with a worse man speak not three words in dispute

02:03:35.740 ill fares the better off when the worst man wields a sword

02:03:42.240 so um again i was i was looking at um this and in relation again it really is do not speak

02:03:57.040 do not share words or hold into in dispute uh you know with a

02:04:03.300 uh and the word the worst is not actually like i would say the correct but like a a lesser man

02:04:14.360 uh with one again denoting that we are to hold up we are to hold ourselves up to a higher degree

02:04:23.600 um and and have that moral try to have that moral framework or work towards having that

02:04:29.960 moral framework are always kind of forward and upwards and you shouldn't dispute yourself with

02:04:35.360 someone who is of a lesser sense um i know that's kind of hard to discern sometimes but really you

02:04:42.680 know speak not and go into arguments or um even again escalations into violence um with someone

02:04:52.780 who is, you know, a lesser person. You know, the fate or the outcome often goes towards the lesser

02:05:09.080 man in relation to his purpose. And I think that's what this is ultimately saying at the end

02:05:15.220 ill fares the better off when the worst man wields the sword is that you'll let's say in

02:05:23.060 relation to a specific like say ourselves to the lesser man don't get into this altercation with

02:05:30.900 them but that person is living a life where eventually the altercation is going to get them

02:05:38.340 And so ill fate often lends itself towards the one who is always in the mind of, again, disputes, aggravation, you know, committing to these arguments and ultimately, you know, the confrontations.

02:05:56.640 it is important for you to choose when these times are unavoidable but if they are avoidable

02:06:04.740 let them go leave them out move away from them again don't let the lesser man control

02:06:11.080 the way you think and act you have total control over yourself let that be your your foundation

02:06:18.200 and you will find that the ill of fate will often lean on that other person eventually.

02:06:26.240 It's going to catch up with them.

02:06:29.360 And, you know, you don't know in what way or what have you, but that's not the point.

02:06:34.060 The point is, is again, if it's unavoidable, absolutely defend yourself.

02:06:39.180 And, you know, that confrontation is, will play out as it plays out in the skeins of fate.

02:06:44.840 But if you can, let it go, leave it alone, move away from it and, you know, continue to live that forward and upward of yourself.

02:06:57.140 You know, there's certain points where you have to be able to control that.

02:07:00.260 And other times, I know you can't, but in certain occasions, but for the most part, you'll find that living the noble life will benefit you while that person is clearly going to run themselves into some direction.

02:07:18.480 And I think that that's another concept of weird that people, like we often joke about is like weird is that the, you know, when you ride a horse, you have a higher percentage of falling off or you have a higher chance of falling off.

02:07:33.660 When you're in a boat, you have a chance to drown.

02:07:37.900 When you find yourself living a life that is ignoble, it's not the gods that will curse you.

02:07:45.700 it's you that will curse you as you weave yourself into those directions. And that's why we talk

02:07:52.420 about the, the, um, cumulativeness of success is the ideas that if you are on the right path

02:07:58.640 and you weave yourself in a direction, then what ends up happening is your victories become

02:08:05.260 compounded. And then I think it, it goes beyond just that. I think it's, there's a force of,

02:08:12.340 of, you know, folk ancestry and gods leaning you in that direction. Whereas if you become

02:08:20.080 worth less or have a negative value, you end up finding yourself into these dark

02:08:26.100 corners and terrible situations that you might not have a chance to get out of. Hopefully you

02:08:32.620 will, but sometimes you don't. You hear about that all the time. So let that person drive

02:08:39.420 themselves into those dark corners of, of life and just leave it, leave it be unless it's unavoidable.

02:08:52.300 One of the

02:08:53.740 first, everything that's Fawn said, but in a completely, you know, literal or, or very close

02:09:08.020 to literal thing when it comes to and unfortunately i think that we all know many instances of this

02:09:19.140 happening throughout history perhaps in our own lives with people that we know

02:09:28.020 deadly weapons are a great equalizer and just like in a in a boxing match everyone has a puncher's

02:09:41.280 chance you run into somebody who's got a gun or you know a thousand years ago you run into someone

02:09:50.740 who has a sword and maybe you don't you say the wrong thing at the wrong time you get in the wrong 0.99

02:09:58.820 stupid inconsequential argument over nothing and your life can end in an instant from somebody 0.99

02:10:09.500 who's way less of a you know way less of a warrior than you way less worthy of it way less whatever 1.00

02:10:16.640 they don't need to be they just need to get lucky one time

02:10:22.860 and that's uh that's a tragedy that i think many of us have seen

02:10:29.360 like i said either with people that we know people in our own lives whatever or

02:10:36.980 um certainly there's there's plenty of historical examples

02:10:42.160 of some of the greatest warriors that are just amazing in stature and prowess all it takes is

02:10:50.760 them saying the wrong thing at the wrong time it takes you being at a traffic stop and jaw jacking 0.98

02:10:55.440 with the guy next to you who's being a jerk and cut you off and you know he may have something in 0.98

02:11:01.680 his lap that you don't know and it can all be over that quickly um and it's a shame it's a 0.99

02:11:07.880 they have bought you know they have bought your entire rest of your life at a very very cheap cost

02:11:16.120 and that's that's unfortunate so i mean be be aware of that and don't get into fights that

02:11:26.040 you don't need to get into because every time you do you roll the dice and wins a fortune

02:11:34.200 And maybe one time you won't come out on top, even if the other person is much less of a, you know, much less of a threat than you are.

02:11:43.920 They just need to be lucky once.

02:11:49.940 Something I want to address that's going on in the chat, just because it's there.

02:11:54.560 A question was asked about Dr. Jackson Crawford and what our thoughts are on him.

02:11:59.800 And it was clarified, you know, Nick mentioned that we're not buddies.

02:12:04.200 but the question was more about his translations I will say this I have no reason to speak ill of

02:12:12.840 Dr Crawford's scholarship but what I will say that's worth factoring in I think and it's kind

02:12:25.920 i said a few minutes ago but it plays a part in that if you are having a

02:12:36.800 inevitably you make choices when you're doing translations words don't translate perfectly

02:12:44.240 there's infinite numbers of inflections and implications and you know linguistic

02:12:53.120 turn of a phrase that can really alter some very important parts in a translation even if done

02:13:02.880 completely honestly when you have a scholar trying to translate word for word with no

02:13:12.800 particular intention in mind, they will break a certain way based on trends in academics,

02:13:23.800 based on trends in linguistics, based on the art of translating or the art of writing.

02:13:34.540 If you have a religious practitioner of a faith translate a work,

02:13:40.360 they are 1.00

02:13:43.860 much

02:13:48.340 they have an intent in the translation that's very different

02:13:54.060 so when there is choices to be made

02:13:58.100 their faith will inform

02:14:03.580 like when it's 50-50 it could go either way on something

02:14:07.820 they're going to err on the side of of treating religious texts as religious texts where

02:14:16.540 linguistic scholars are going to err on the side of whatever their school of

02:14:24.860 linguistics happens to be and i think that over the entire course of a work

02:14:29.820 it can possibly make a difference so for example

02:14:37.260 And this is a thing, you're going to run into this with different translations. I'm unaware of any text of our lore that has been translated into modern English by a practicing ausitual.

02:14:53.100 it so it it could be kind of you know apples and oranges at that point um

02:15:02.700 but what i would typically favor is one that was you know if an actual practitioner of our faith

02:15:11.660 translated our religious texts i think that would work in a much in a much better way

02:15:20.060 because these are religious texts just like i think that if you have a a christian translating

02:15:28.780 the gospels they're going to do that in a way that's different than an atheist or someone who

02:15:37.420 is opposed to that way of thinking who's translating the same gospels so i think it

02:15:44.060 i think it factors in but again i don't think there's any

02:15:47.580 ausitur that are giving you a translation so i can't say that as i said at the top of the program

02:15:52.860 i encourage you to read whichever version that you can the version i'm aware of by dr crawford

02:16:01.340 is like the cowboy have them all and it's puts a lot of effort into putting these things into these

02:16:06.860 folksy like almost cheesy americano ways of doing it and i think it misses some of the subtle nuance

02:16:17.660 that a more straightforward translation would give um and the other thing and i always wonder

02:16:24.700 how much this affects unless a scholar is outspokenly conservative i wonder if the

02:16:33.260 liberal tendencies in academics messes with translations that's why i really when i'm able to i

02:16:41.660 like a pre-second world war translation of stuff because you don't have the same

02:16:50.940 currents in academia that that push you to or away from certain ideas or certain concepts

02:16:58.380 people were able to be proud of different things in a full-throated way without having to

02:17:04.460 not offend but i think you have different biases that every time you have somebody do the

02:17:10.220 translation and you know the further advanced in time we have access to different sources that we

02:17:18.060 didn't have when other people were doing translation so there's value in all of it

02:17:22.300 Svahn, what are your, what are your, what do you have to offer on Dr. Crawford's translation of

02:17:29.680 things? I greatly enjoy some of his videos and some of the things that he's spoken about

02:17:44.040 as far as, you know, breaking down Old Norse. His Old Norse lessons are really, really good.

02:17:52.300 They've helped me out a lot. I mean, I think that in this day and age, it's easier, especially for someone who is an academic, to kind of fall in line with the overarching hive mind that, you know, quickly, again, their community, a power of a community is built on its moral framework.

02:18:19.340 And if you're outside of that moral framework, you can be shunned.

02:18:22.520 That doesn't necessarily mean that their moral framework is correct.

02:18:26.360 It's just the way that they think they're correct.

02:18:28.340 And I don't mean to be like in relativism of that, but he, as an academic, it doesn't serve him to say, you know, anything outside of the party line, if you will.

02:18:45.120 But that being said, he doesn't believe in the gods.

02:18:49.060 he's spoken about that as well. And he does this strictly from a scholastic point. And, um, you

02:18:54.920 know, so if, when he delivers his information, he generally removes his opinion and that makes the

02:19:02.780 information still exactly what it is. And is that information good? Yes, I believe it is. So, you

02:19:09.200 know, it is, it's kind of paired with or, and to what level. And, um, it is interesting. I mean,

02:19:15.880 he's proposed some points that i had never heard before especially in uh like pronunciations

02:19:22.580 diphthongs and the usage of different uh words especially in the difference between old norse

02:19:32.640 and icelandic um and i mean he's made accessible so i mean there is that um so i just i don't pay

02:19:40.060 any key to anything outside of that he i mean he could call me you know evil and wouldn't like me

02:19:49.180 or what have you and to my face and that's still i have the ability to look at the value of something 0.99

02:19:56.620 that someone's doing and not just simply hate it because they're you know an idiot um they 1.00

02:20:03.660 he can have an opinion that makes him an idiot but does he produce the works that 1.00

02:20:10.060 Whereas left-minded people are more emotional, like this person thinks this or does that, or I've been told they think this and do that. 0.99

02:20:24.600 So I'm simply going to hate everything that they do. And I don't think that's necessarily the case from our perspective.

02:20:40.060 so that's kind of my take on that i also wanted to bring up another point so 125 and this is the

02:20:46.960 part that and and as we're reading bellows um i'm not trying to like cop out and say like

02:20:52.880 you know now that i'm noticing all these things you know bellow no no all of the translations

02:20:57.920 are very very good i like them for different reasons bellows isn't my forefront um translation

02:21:05.880 But one thing, like I'm noticing little things, for instance, the usage of the word sword.

02:21:12.480 There is no usage of the word sword in the translation of Old Norse.

02:21:16.960 But in essence, where I took the translation to mean that it's better for you to avoid because fate will take the ill man into dark places.

02:21:31.300 It's not worth you getting involved in that.

02:21:34.260 some of the other translations kind of lend on that, but a much more clear way. So I wanted to

02:21:39.440 bring it up was, was that, you know, a bad man that attacks people is oftentimes far less

02:21:49.700 concerned or has far less things to lose. That's the lifestyle they live. And if you are a good

02:21:56.380 man, you should just simply avoid getting into that because you have far more to lose than they

02:22:03.500 do. And that's the general translation that other people are kind of keying in on. I took it more as

02:22:08.960 it's better to avoid because ill fate will eventually lead them down the road and there's

02:22:15.100 no reason for it to lead you down the road. So, you know, leave it as it is, unless it's

02:22:21.180 unavoidable. That's the kind of the way I took it. But I was just looking at some cross translations

02:22:25.960 and the usage of the word sword, and it just was very odd that he used that.

02:22:41.220 So let's see.

02:22:42.300 Oh, I'm just now noticing too.

02:22:46.220 Whenever I get the Disney version, I always notice far too late.

02:22:51.260 um so let's see we're moving into um 125 so 125 i read the load fafner and hear thou my read

02:23:07.760 prophet thus thou hast if thou hearest great thy oh sorry not 125 126 excuse me

02:23:14.980 Uh, right. Yes, yes, yes. I did it again. Uh, damnable numbers, uh, Marines in there and,

02:23:26.440 and the math rise. It's like, can we color code these? No. Um, one 26. I read the load 0.89

02:23:40.020 Fafnir, and hear thou my read. Prophet thou hast if thou hearest, great thy gain if thy learnest.

02:23:45.940 A shoemaker be, or a maker of shafts, for only thy single self. If the shoe is ill-made,

02:23:53.580 or the shaft proof false, then evil of thee men think. Okay, a couple of things.

02:24:01.560 this stanza is not talking about the literalism of shoes and shaft of course meaning arrow

02:24:10.620 arrow shaft or spear shaft a weapon but the ultimate point of this stanza actually lies

02:24:18.860 in the end if they prove false then evil of the men will think so the idea is that you should not

02:24:28.900 um construct situations in which

02:24:35.760 the the foundation especially when you're involving other people

02:24:42.880 the foundation of the things you are constructing should not be shaky because if it falls through

02:24:49.100 the more people involved in the fall the more woe and the more uh possibilities of of ill thought

02:24:57.880 are directed towards you. And it's worth noting here, they don't say ill in the usage of the word

02:25:03.720 evil. It's baleful is what's being said. So the baleful will be the thoughts that men think of

02:25:12.960 you. And that's, again, is if you provide or if you construct a plan or a situation to move forward

02:25:21.280 in life and it involves multiple people um it's better to do it first by yourself even or even at

02:25:31.120 least to gain the foothold of success you do it by yourself before you bring others in because

02:25:38.640 anytime that you interact or create this structure with more people and it and it's shaky and it

02:25:45.040 falls through you haven't you haven't tested it you can weave whoa so this is a really kind of clear

02:25:53.120 point it's it's um it's kind of like um i was trying to think of like there was a colloquial

02:25:59.680 thought uh in really like if there's if there's more than three people involved in a secret than

02:26:05.360 everyone knows well if there's something to be tested that you haven't tested yourself and you

02:26:10.960 bring others on the fall will be blamed on you is basically what this uh is saying so

02:26:20.320 test the walk in the shoes shoot the arrows before you bring everyone else to rely

02:26:30.000 on the shoes and arrows that you make that's the best way to kind of context that one

02:26:36.240 let's be hesitant to be a braggart on things too it's something to to think about goodwill

02:26:48.600 will take you a certain amount but if you tout that you have a particular skill or a particular

02:26:54.140 knowledge on something you better be able to back it up because if you don't there's consequence to

02:27:00.600 that. It's kind of a side note question for Svan. Does Jackson

02:27:09.280 Crawford have a translation of the have them all outside of his

02:27:12.840 cowboy have them all that you're aware of? Okay. Yes, it is. I

02:27:17.720 believe it's he has a book. Yes, that's it. I have it. That's

02:27:25.240 not the cowboy one, right? No. Okay. Okay, cool. I was gonna say that I get what he's

02:27:40.300 doing with the cowboy have them all. It just makes me uncomfortable. And I think you lose

02:27:45.360 a lot of the beauty and sacredness of the text when you put it in like the hokey gunslinger

02:27:55.000 like vernacular i i took that differently i i understand what you're saying and i i i just kind

02:28:04.540 of took it in the context of like he was what is the uh what is the you know the samurai of the

02:28:11.360 west is the is the the the cowboy is the gunslinger or what is the viking of the of of america is the

02:28:18.160 you know the the indomitable spirit of the frontiersman or or what have you i think he

02:28:22.780 was trying to create at least peripherally that connection. And out of that, I just,

02:28:30.220 the, the, the entertainment of it and the, I mean, I, the context of that is, like I said,

02:28:50.300 entertaining to me. And I, I, I rather enjoyed it in the sense of what it was. I understand how

02:28:56.660 it does pull away from a lot of that, those meetings, but also to me coming ever since I

02:29:02.780 was young and coming into America, um, you know, like I never realized it until I was older,

02:29:09.540 but there is a sense of an, of an American-ness that I always had, you know, like watching the

02:29:17.680 westerns watching you know um the duke and watching uh clint eastwood and you know watching

02:29:26.240 the like i just having that fascination with like the american like with the buoy knife and uh

02:29:33.200 having you know the single action you know cult army revolver um which i own and i i what was my

02:29:42.980 drive to get these things was because

02:29:45.020 of that love of that ruggedness and

02:29:46.900 American-ness. Don't get me

02:29:49.100 wrong. Cowboys are 0.97

02:29:51.020 awesome. I'm not

02:29:52.720 faulting Cowboys and it's not an indictment

02:29:55.260 on the American West.

02:29:57.140 It's just

02:29:58.140 when you have to change

02:30:01.680 the words

02:30:03.620 to make them

02:30:04.940 old-timey and cowboy-y,

02:30:08.440 you lose some

02:30:09.600 really subtle points that are valuable.

02:30:11.360 like there's basic points that you absolutely hit when you put it in cowboy talk

02:30:17.880 but it's you know it's like the hood have them all like peep game love flafner uh pimpinane

02:30:27.380 it's i guess gets the basic point of some of the stanzas but the fundamentals are there's there's

02:30:38.580 lot of nuance that i think is i don't know i'm not a huge fan of that but that's why i wanted to see

02:30:43.860 if there was another version besides just that yeah that opens up a lot of doors i i don't want

02:30:50.580 to be impious i'm just saying i'm not that's yeah yeah that's i don't i don't necessarily like

02:30:58.660 putting it i think that alters the the wording quite a bit in a significant way um

02:31:08.580 but yeah what do we got for uh 127. i'm gotten i've got a goal tonight in mind so i'm gonna see

02:31:16.820 if we get there or not all right and i i'm gonna have to uh step away for one second after this um

02:31:26.180 so i read the load fafner and hear thou my read prophet thou hast if thou hearest

02:31:32.260 great thy gain if thou learnest if evil thou knowest as evil proclaim it and make no friendship

02:31:39.900 with foes so i mean this is pretty straightforward the the um the usage of of the word bail over

02:31:53.280 ill is an interesting again point that's um kind of contexted in the old norse um

02:32:01.060 so it, you know, it's the usage of, of the word evil versus bail and evil versus iller

02:32:09.880 is again, a heavy work towards perhaps deed and, or moral fabric. And that I think is an

02:32:19.380 interesting point. The balefulness is when, when you see someone that works against you is what,

02:32:26.260 So that means that you have a stance and if they're working against you, then you stand up to it. It doesn't mean that they are ill or of ill repute or ill moral sense or, you know, usage of the word ill as evil.

02:32:44.840 in essence what they're talking about again is is machinations that you're going in one direction

02:32:51.920 you have an intent you have a you have an agenda and someone's working against it and that applies

02:32:58.860 to a lot of things and a lot of different people and i think that's very important

02:33:03.480 that we focus in on that because a lot of people don't um and uh they get they get they get preachy

02:33:11.100 real quick on this one. Um, this, the beauty of this, uh, stands is that it holds true to those

02:33:18.740 who speak it. Um, and again, you should not make friendship with your, with your enemies. You

02:33:25.840 should not make friendships with your, uh, friends enemies, um, because they work balefully against

02:33:33.900 you in the long run. And that is something of deep importance. If you have true frith with your

02:33:39.360 folk, if you have true frith with your kinsmen, then you do not make friendship with their foes

02:33:48.200 and you do not sit idly by while they work against you or they work against your people

02:33:54.100 or they work against your fellow kinsmen. You do not sit in silence. You stand up and speak

02:34:00.560 out against it. That's the difference though, is the communal aspect of understanding that.

02:34:06.640 um and that's the whole point oh i just want to say with friendship so again if you are a friend

02:34:15.360 to everyone you're a friend to no one if you have if you're if your ethnic faith the faith of your

02:34:21.480 people is a faith for everyone it's all universal now then it's not a faith for anyone it's not

02:34:27.640 something of that and i think that's the key point in lending to this is friendship the kinship that

02:34:33.380 you have with someone and the machinations of people working against your your quantifiable

02:34:40.540 thing that the the unity between you is quantifiable then you should stand up against

02:34:47.380 the people that work against your quantifiable group whether it's a friend a kinsman uh again

02:34:53.600 your family your church your folk whatever it might be these are quantifiable things

02:34:58.700 And I think that this has been taken for the preachy sense for people who don't have, I mean, their friendship is what, perhaps personal, but outside of that, I mean, they're standing for the universalism of everything, the relativism of everything.

02:35:21.660 The borderless and boundaryless, the inner guard is no longer an inner guard. It's just a great plane of nothing. And that's what they're standing up against is people who say, no, my inner guard matters. My friendships with certain people matter. My kinship with certain people matter.

02:35:42.960 they don't realize it but they're the outside coming in and attacking the inner guards of other

02:35:51.880 people without them even understanding that they're trying to tear down walls so in essence

02:35:59.200 they're the outside invader they're the outlander they're the and and it's funny when outlanders

02:36:04.280 get preachy to me is what i'm ultimately getting at is it's like um this is you know the earth and

02:36:11.620 everything in it is for everyone. So if you build your walls, you're an evil person and I'm going to

02:36:16.040 try to tear them down. That's the most righteous way of saying you're the, the roving horde.

02:36:24.520 So that was my, my piece on that. So I'm all right. As a,

02:36:32.960 as a historical note,

02:36:38.980 and I think it's worth making the historical note here.

02:36:46.580 Sorry, I was trying to find the exact deal.

02:36:52.900 Anyways, so the first,

02:37:00.340 I think that our enemies get the point of verse 127 perfectly.

02:37:17.660 I just think they, we've come to a point where traditionalism and degeneracy have moved so far apart that up is down, down is up, left is right, good is bad.

02:37:41.400 everything is almost taken as an opposite so it's it's funny um one of the

02:37:49.720 one of the big things that occurred when all right to go back to

02:37:59.840 2016 was the year that i became the alzheimer go through the astrofocus

02:38:05.820 So for those of you that were, you know, aware of things or remember then, folks in the world had gotten pretty good at being very PC with all the things that were said.

02:38:29.600 It was a time in Ausatru where there was an overlap between traditional, actual Ausatru and folks that were the forces of chaos and the forces of all kind of social, sexual, political, and other degeneracy.

02:38:54.880 And there was a tremendous blurring of lines and confusion on things.

02:39:01.660 And it was very important to me as one of the first things I did as Ausheri Goffi to make a very clear statement of what the AFA is about and what we're not.

02:39:17.720 and so that was entirely my point was to make a very clear separation between

02:39:24.080 good things and bad things and so I said something to the best of my recollection

02:39:35.340 in the AFA we value our masculine men our feminine ladies and our beautiful white babies

02:39:45.420 and the left lost their mind um the uh severely mentally ill on the other team decided to launch 0.63

02:39:58.500 declaration 127 which was their big like let's denounce the afa because they're 0.61

02:40:05.640 they're uh this is what they said declaration 127 is an anti-racist statement slash proclamation

02:40:14.240 made to denounce the OUTSA True Folk Assembly

02:40:17.140 was created in 2016 as a response to a statement

02:40:20.580 published by the AFA formally confirming

02:40:23.020 a long and well-documented history of discrimination

02:40:26.260 on the basis of ethnicity, sexuality, and gender identity.

02:40:31.600 The AFA declared that non-white and LGBT individuals

02:40:36.460 were not welcome in their tradition. 1.00

02:40:39.880 Damn straight. 0.98

02:40:42.980 Pun intended. 0.98

02:40:44.240 So I just thought it was a funny historical note because, you know, most of those people, I don't know, moved on to various other things with their mental illness.

02:40:57.180 But it's just kind of interesting because that was this was the verse that they they chose to be the the rallying cry for their for their nonsense. 0.95

02:41:08.480 So this, I don't know, this day in history brought to you by mentally ill, gender ambiguous, purple haired lefties. 0.91

02:41:21.900 yeah and these translations hold different um you know values some some of the translations 0.92

02:41:33.360 speak of the idea of like don't join in the tidings of ill and only you know do that which

02:41:40.380 is good and that's again applicable to anyone's stance on it if we're talking about particular

02:41:48.560 issues but overall it just means you know don't you know um um celebrate you know evilness now

02:41:58.280 of course they're going to call us evil and whatever that is you know but the idea is that

02:42:03.080 it applies just broadly to to most everything i think the other thing that that i i like i enjoy

02:42:12.000 um hollander's translation uh because it does have that kind of spirit um

02:42:21.100 you know is is uh here thou load fafner and heed it well learn it to lend the strength to follow it

02:42:28.820 till further the if wrong was done the if wrong was done thee then then thy wrong be known and

02:42:36.840 fall on thy foes straight away. And it's, it's basically saying if you've been wronged or one

02:42:43.340 of your kinsmen has been wronged, fall upon the enemy and in essence, don't make friendships with

02:42:49.360 them. And this is a, uh, I suppose a compliment both with their declaration one 27, but very

02:43:01.720 specifically the point of the original statement i made and what i'm happy happened

02:43:09.800 um that moment everybody picked aside didn't have fence centers didn't have

02:43:21.720 the lukewarm in the middle that didn't want to pick a side and didn't want to

02:43:26.920 be forthright about what they believed. No, we made a clear distinction and

02:43:37.480 certain kinds of individuals stood over there on the left-hand side and

02:43:44.120 other amazing individuals who are pillars of righteousness decided to stand on the right-hand

02:43:51.660 side and uh that was a tremendous leap forward because honestly joking aside and condescension

02:43:59.820 aside i can respect people that have strong beliefs and choose a side much more than i

02:44:06.460 can respect people that you know stand around in the middle trying to not offend anybody and

02:44:12.540 and go along and get along those people are of no value you can you can be wrong and

02:44:23.580 there be some begrudging respect and you nobly do it it's it's another interesting point and again

02:44:29.100 it's a little bit of a step away from what we're talking about but i think it's important

02:44:35.580 just to kind of point out it's interesting and what i've mentioned and sometimes we can see this

02:44:40.940 from our enemies their insults read as compliments and their compliments read as insults very very

02:44:53.900 often and i've seen this a couple of times i was listening to um a podcast about disparaging our 0.66

02:45:05.500 founder steven mcnalen and these these group of you know obese mentally ill um

02:45:17.100 wiccans basically were talking about what a prude steve was because he didn't want to join in on 0.99

02:45:25.980 their fatty orgy that they were engaged in like that that is complimentary that is that is a 0.93

02:45:33.500 statement of value in steve's corner that he did not choose to engage in that particular activity 0.93

02:45:41.980 yet they see that as an indictment of his prudish heteronormative

02:45:49.180 not liking gross things whatever but we're now at a time that

02:45:55.980 degeneracy and chaos are so far separate and so polar against order and tradition

02:46:08.540 that it helps a lot of people see the world in a much more clear way and that's brought a lot

02:46:15.340 of people to the afa and who otherwise wouldn't have been comfortable with it because the lines

02:46:21.820 are now much clearer than they have been in the past. And that just as a historical side note on

02:46:30.300 Stanza 127. I knew we'd get there eventually. And I don't think that a lot of people have ever heard

02:46:39.500 us openly talk about it. And I mean, again, because it's not really worth paying attention.

02:46:44.780 I've always took it as that's the righteous horde trying to say, that's why we're going to tear down

02:46:50.300 your walls because walls are evil so i just think it's kind of funny how we never really had

02:47:00.860 a point of just outright talking about it it's hard to it's hard to go past that

02:47:06.380 standard and not reminisce reminiscing because i mean and a lot of people might not know this

02:47:14.140 There was a time when, you know, like the Troth as an organization was, you know, attempting to live by the ideals of democracy.

02:47:23.920 And that meant letting everyone have their say.

02:47:26.940 And it was like a gray zone.

02:47:28.780 And there was so much fomented venom in between the little factions because that's how democracy works.

02:47:35.100 And in essence, I think you did them a favor.

02:47:38.160 You basically kind of, I guess, unified them under one thing.

02:47:43.560 But then again, over time, as we've seen, it just kind of fizzled out into internet bloats and Zoom calls.

02:47:53.400 All right. 1.00

02:47:53.760 I'm just going to take liberties to be mean-spirited about the troth for a second. 1.00

02:47:58.000 Here we go. 0.80

02:47:59.620 Well, no, I will say this.

02:48:02.640 we had a person who attended their virtual troth move which is their big event

02:48:14.500 but because they spent a number of years inside not participating in the world around them for

02:48:25.040 covid fears um they had uh an online troth move and this this person that we knew took screenshots

02:48:37.200 of the video call that was there with all the different squares of the of the people who were

02:48:43.040 participating and i again i'm trying to elevate i'm obviously pointing out something that is funny

02:48:56.800 and is gross and is detrimental to them but i'm not trying to be a jerk i'm trying to point out

02:49:03.520 a really true commonality 0.97

02:49:05.200 you could see the mental illness radiating from every single person that was on the screen.

02:49:19.920 And it displays the dichotomy between beauty and hideousness, between order and chaos,

02:49:38.120 between health and sickness, between right and wrong in the most clear and stark terms I've ever

02:49:50.880 observed in my life. Though those people are absolutely my foes, I genuinely feel sorry for

02:50:01.440 them on a mental health level. And I think it is tremendously sad that so many of our people have

02:50:10.960 decayed in such an unhealthy way.

02:50:25.040 Again, like we spoke of, you know, sometimes people just weave themselves into those

02:50:29.520 dark corners there's not much that we can do but focus on the folks that you know are welcome

02:50:37.440 through our walls and through our gates and we attempt to make them better and help them as we

02:50:43.860 attempt to make ourselves better and help ourselves so we all succeed um you just can't

02:50:49.860 fix a lot of that stuff. And I mean, again, it's sad. And some people, I think in those

02:51:02.380 associations and such, we're okay people, but the ideology pinnacled them in a direction that

02:51:13.940 basically wouldn't allow them to kind of be gray anymore and they needed to like you said pick that

02:51:21.480 side and that really did um force a lot of that i remember a long time ago um early ausitru in the

02:51:31.400 90s one of the big thing that was kind of going and it was kind of like the proto folkish to

02:51:37.020 universalist arguments was the profession of faith which i was 100 behind actually i became

02:51:45.660 also true through a professing of my faith to the gods and i forsake all other gods that were not of

02:51:53.020 my people um and there was other people who were in the realm of relativism they were in the realm

02:52:00.500 of i don't know what you know they i basically just like just regurgitated or chewed out wicca

02:52:08.520 kind of views where it's like all the gods are just hypostasis for the masculine and feminine

02:52:14.740 or or what have you and a lot of people i actually heard someone argue like i have a i have a statue

02:52:23.360 of some middle eastern goddess on my altar you know i can't uh i don't i don't i can't remember

02:52:31.060 what was said it's like you know i don't want to limit myself or something like that and it just

02:52:36.660 sounded so swarthy and like shady so okay so we're we're venturing far afield from our discussion

02:52:47.400 tonight but there's a couple of points that are really good to make and i think this is an okay

02:52:52.800 time to put this out there and um russ i'm glad that you appreciate the angry lefty voice i was

02:53:00.800 making it's hard to read that in a non-biased voice because it's just so ridiculous but

02:53:11.280 in my position as a gothi one of the most common experiences that i'm called upon to do is counseling

02:53:22.800 and I've had the honor of counseling a lot of people.

02:53:29.740 The most useful tool that I've had in counseling people, I would say,

02:53:35.740 is getting them to express their thoughts and feelings out loud

02:53:44.460 and hearing themselves say the things that they say.

02:53:48.540 this has nothing to do with the text it's just a side note that came to mind once fond mentioned

02:53:56.780 that but i think it's a really beneficial thing if folks would hear me on it and i guess it does

02:54:08.160 relate because we talked about having a friend that you can share your true self with and getting

02:54:14.000 honest feedback some of the time we allow ourselves to entertain absolutely absurd

02:54:23.200 mental gymnastics on things to fit in with the group that we're in or because it's politically

02:54:29.760 correct or because to go along or get along or because we just are in our own head fomenting on

02:54:37.840 our feelings when you say when you vocalize your true feelings out loud to another person

02:54:50.080 and see the expression they make when they hear something that is completely nonsensical

02:55:00.240 it is very therapeutic in your ability to sort through your own thoughts and feelings on a subject

02:55:07.840 So I just say that to keep that in mind.

02:55:12.580 But with that, if you would, and I've taken plenty of liberties, so if you have anything you want to add or you want to say, feel free.

02:55:20.740 But if not, let's move to 128.

02:55:24.420 And it's no secret, my goal is to try to get through 137 tonight.

02:55:30.140 So let's see if we can do that.

02:55:33.220 All right.

02:55:34.380 I was sorry.

02:55:35.220 Because when you're expounding on some things, I'm also trying to attempt to look at things as well

02:55:41.860 and try to get some points across that I find interesting.

02:55:45.760 But I have to verify before.

02:55:48.020 Can't just say without the possibility that there might be something that I'm missing.

02:55:52.540 So I'm over here clicking and flipping through things.

02:55:55.820 So please be patient with me on that one.

02:55:59.020 But okay, so we are on 128.

02:56:05.220 I read thee, Lord Fafnir, and hear thou my read, profit thou hast if thou hearest, great thy gain if thou learnest. In evil, never, joy shalt thou know, but glad the good shall make thee.

02:56:21.360 Now we go back to the usage of the word illur or illu. So there's that difference between bail and ill and ill is evil.

02:56:34.120 um so this is this is a great one and i like this one because oftentimes i'll find myself

02:56:44.340 in theosophical debates with um catholics with orthodox uh christians and a lot of times again

02:56:54.960 they're they're they don't know anything about the religion so the only thing they have

02:56:59.760 is the construction and that's, they're at a deficit there. Cause you know, I, most, a lot

02:57:05.560 of people that have come into Ausitru, very few have been raised Ausitru. That's the, the, the,

02:57:10.580 the chasm. Um, you know, my, my children are, are raised Ausitru. This is our, our faith is

02:57:17.480 going from that zero to one kind of, uh, sense or one to two, I should say, cause I went from

02:57:24.940 zero to one. Um, so one of the things that they often try to get is they kind of lump us in with

02:57:32.480 all pagans. And I use that in the modern sense of the word, uh, or, you know, polytheistic

02:57:41.280 neo-paganism and they, you know, they're, Oh, you're just an atheist that doesn't want to be

02:57:47.600 held accountable for their actions. You're, you know, you don't have any moral structures or 0.88

02:57:52.800 what have you it's very clear and has been set in our faith for a long time and again it's the it's 0.81

02:57:59.920 the the idea i think that they have is that there was no moralism until the sky rabbi showed up

02:58:08.160 which is clearly not the case if anybody's ever even taken a glimpse at history that is absolutely

02:58:15.600 not the case but they want to make it the flip coin situation where it's like oh these these

02:58:22.080 gnashing teeth shoulder pelted barbarians and then sky rabbi shows up and europe is

02:58:29.280 rainbows and um that to me is hilarious but here's a perfect point in proof um 0.51

02:58:39.840 clearly here lord of othen is teaching lord fafner that if you see evil if you know evil

02:58:46.800 do not seek shelter in it because you will find no joy you will find nothing but

02:58:53.540 hardship and if you find good shelter in it and enjoy it

02:59:00.000 because it is good and not often are there always things in the world that are good

02:59:07.880 so take no refuge in in in evil take no refuge in um the works of evil people take no joy

02:59:16.420 don't smirk or smile um find find goodness in the things and and i take this as more as like again

02:59:25.620 it could be you have these people that only want death destruction and hatred and then

02:59:34.400 you have people who want love and community and happiness and stability and order go with those

02:59:42.380 people don't go with that and it's very incumbent on them to portray us as the evil hate-filled i

02:59:51.420 mean even leftist or uh monotheistic universalist christians whatever they may be they want to

02:59:59.340 paint us as one thing and no we are we should strive to be the white pill all the time and

03:00:07.900 don't let them they desperately need us so don't fall into that we're not we're not the the group

03:00:14.380 of you know uh vitriol anger hatred we are the ones that want order peace and community we want

03:00:23.200 our walls to be secure and we want our people inside our walls to be happy healthy and growing

03:00:28.540 that's what they hate that's what they want to destroy again it's very preachy of them to be the

03:00:36.220 you know uh uh i guess i don't know what a good word but i guess the spreading horde

03:00:46.480 um and you know they're gonna throw themselves at the walls that people create but you know

03:00:52.360 these people are creating walls in what intent and our intent is again peace and prosperity

03:01:00.080 health growth order structure and we want to defend those walls in order to maintain that

03:01:07.460 trajectory and they cannot stand it and again same with the christians too they kind of project

03:01:13.480 that we are a religion that doesn't have this that we are just part of the roving horde

03:01:18.340 um and we're just attempting to destroy no we have walls they have walls at least we have that

03:01:24.180 uncommonality but you know um they're just going to see us as as the roving horde especially as

03:01:29.960 their walls falter as their um churches turn into hoffs as their people leave um and again i could

03:01:38.240 argue about that with the the idea of how they have made the divine obscure they have made the

03:01:44.520 divine unrelatable on through language ethnos imagery all of that stuff they have made the

03:01:53.100 divine completely unrelatable. And when it is time to look at the divine, you're going to look

03:01:57.280 at it in the lens of a foreign land and a foreign people and all of the things involved in it are

03:02:03.300 specifically in this tiny little area in the Middle East. But outside of that, it goes into

03:02:10.560 Greek philosophy, which is really good at certain points, but then it goes into absolute obscurity

03:02:15.960 and their people are leaving in droves because they have lost connection. They know that their

03:02:21.580 faith isn't of their people and there's no way that they can make it that way so they go the

03:02:25.800 other direction and it is diffused into irrelevance of any sort of structure in the in the long run

03:02:34.560 and even that the structure that they've long had is slowly eroding away and we can see it

03:02:40.160 everywhere and that's because again they they just they built on disconnected sense that it's not an

03:02:48.460 ethnic faith of the people it is a foreign faith from somewhere else and that foundation alone has

03:02:53.740 led it's it's still going on and it's very very strong but at the end of the day they can't 0.80

03:03:00.260 separate themselves from this situation so you know i've had i've had discussions about um

03:03:05.640 with christians that speak about they just cannot conceptualize the idea that the religion is a

03:03:12.020 subsect of judaism but yet they believe in everything that that that comes from they

03:03:17.060 believe in the ark of the covenant they believe in a messiah as the name intends in the language

03:03:21.620 that it comes from they can't connect to it and so then they just end up well god's mysterious and

03:03:27.240 uh works in his mysterious and it just becomes relativism so these are the kind of the two

03:03:31.920 polarities they're working through and um as we grow and as we strengthen and as we uh you know

03:03:40.940 reclaim and make a stand, build, build the wall and hold down the flag and make statements that

03:03:48.700 say, no, you're not welcome in this, in these halls or in these walls, if you're, you know,

03:03:54.280 promoting this or promoting that, they're losing that rapidly. And we are holding the course. And

03:04:02.120 I think it's just the biggest thing that we have to work with is people reconditioning themselves 0.93

03:04:06.880 away from semitic religion and semitic thought and universalist thought back into ethnos and

03:04:13.980 folkish religious thought and that's the biggest hurdle that we have to cross um and also just

03:04:19.960 getting people to again sometimes they reject the seriousness of religion because oh those

03:04:27.360 christians were serious you know no we have to like we have to work through some of that stuff

03:04:32.000 but at the end of the day you can see one is rapidly decreasing and and we are stabilizing

03:04:38.800 more and more every day and i think that's uh important sorry i soapbox there

03:04:47.200 so um we got a question on the side and we're saving some of the questions till the very end

03:04:52.080 but europa asked will you put the membership count back on the website well i wasn't like

03:04:57.840 there was some discussion but i wasn't sure anybody took that down but for transparency

03:05:03.680 member number is currently at 788 as of this moment and we'll make sure those are are definitely

03:05:12.160 back up on the sites and easy for folks to monitor if they'd like to but i just wanted

03:05:18.000 to put that out there because we did have a question about it um yeah this uh

03:05:27.840 No, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

03:05:29.680 I was a brief comment just saying that it's strange that that was brought up because we were talking about that when you made the statements back in 2016 and it did create those signs.

03:05:38.980 There was a like, again, the fence sitting kind of dropped out.

03:05:43.220 What we ended up getting was a lot more people who were more serious, more focused and forward.

03:05:50.160 And that's interesting how the numbers kind of play with the results.

03:05:54.320 So one thing that is interesting, and you and I were talking about this last night, but it's kind of a – I sent a message to our folk builders about it this morning, and I think this is a good enough place to talk about it.

03:06:08.920 We'll get back on topic, I promise, but it's worth doing.

03:06:15.020 So membership numbers, we are dealing with folks that, and this is better now than it's ever been, but we're dealing with folks in a large part that are marginal in society and that find themselves on the fringes due to their upbringing, their circumstance.

03:06:45.020 Europa, you're welcome. I'm always happy to answer everything as honest and open as I can.

03:06:51.200 So we deal with people that are in a lot of different circumstances, and we're always going

03:06:55.740 to get hobbyists that think stuff's cool, and they fall in and out of it. They quit for various

03:07:02.580 reasons. They come back. They are at different seasons in their life, and they grow. But I liken

03:07:09.300 this to body uh to body composition last night when swan and i were talking um

03:07:17.460 there is a core member of the house true folk assembly that's the musculature

03:07:25.780 that is better than it's ever been and that continues to grow and it grows much slower than

03:07:31.380 i would like for it to but it grows and it grows very often around our hoffs um so there's like

03:07:40.900 the afa's muscle mass but then there's also it's surrounded by a certain amount of

03:07:48.660 for lack of a better term fatty tissue that are members that come in and come out and when it's

03:07:56.500 popular and it's cool they join when their life changes they quit when there's fear-mongering

03:08:04.020 they quit but then they come back and we've got people that go in and out and i don't want to

03:08:08.900 overextend the analogy but the trouble is we don't there's not a real clear way to determine the

03:08:16.420 statistic on what that number of muscle mass members is versus what the number of adipose

03:08:26.760 membership is. So we get pretty radical fluctuations in membership from time to time that I know that

03:08:34.860 guys see and it's it's always kind of hard to calculate but our uh our other metrics are

03:08:45.580 up and stay in the course and doing well so it's just kind of an interesting

03:08:52.540 an interesting thing for perspective one because i know that we get asked you know wow you had all

03:08:57.740 these members uh you know a few months back what happened it's a variety of things and those numbers

03:09:03.180 do ebb and flow but the trend the trend is still you know very much upward i just you know we all

03:09:10.860 long for that moment that everything catches fire and all of a sudden we got 10 000 members or

03:09:16.060 whatever and hopefully we hit that you know i genuinely pray that that happens but until then

03:09:23.340 we make these little you know baby steps on that consistent membership and then we kind of

03:09:29.100 bulk and cut and bulk and cut and bulk and cut on on the rest of that to figure it out but

03:09:36.340 as a little bit of perspective on member number um the stanza that spawn read though is

03:09:44.200 it's straightforward but it's really important uh one of the tropes when i first became involved

03:09:53.160 in alsatru was this idea that there's no such thing as good and evil in alsatru like no that's

03:10:00.520 for christians there's no good and evil there's you know all this gray there's absolutely some

03:10:07.480 gray in the middle but there's definitely very obvious black and very obvious white

03:10:16.120 this just goes to show there was always a sense of right and wrong of good and evil 0.55

03:10:23.160 of noble and ignoble. And any suggestion to the contrary is a modern escapism. Kind of like Svahn

03:10:32.400 was pointing out, a lot of people, and I mean, I guess this goes to the

03:10:39.020 more flaky membership we talked about. There's a certain number of people that see any form of

03:10:51.060 paganism as basically kind of a fun atheism that is a license for not having to conform

03:11:02.100 to standards of right and wrong.

03:11:04.300 And it's not that at all.

03:11:05.820 And sometimes when people find out that that's the case, they move on to something that is

03:11:14.100 that or that does justify that worldview for them.

03:11:18.160 And I think that it's really important to make that distinction.

03:11:22.480 There's absolutely right, there's absolutely wrong, and there's judgment both by us here in Midgard, by your ancestors and by the gods.

03:11:33.160 And Swan pointed that out earlier as well.

03:11:48.160 So we are at 129, and this was one of the ones I was kind of looking into because I wanted to make a point about the term Gjaltiglikur in the Old Norse, and why you might see a strange translation in there.

03:12:08.700 But let's go into it

03:12:11.480 So I read thee, Lord Fafner

03:12:13.900 And hear thou my read

03:12:15.820 Prophet thou hast if thou hearest

03:12:17.740 Great thy gain if thou learnest

03:12:20.360 Look not up when the battle is on 0.64

03:12:23.600 Like madmen the sons of men become

03:12:26.900 Lest men bewitch thy wits 0.57

03:12:29.560 So this is an interesting one

03:12:36.180 First off, I would think

03:12:37.520 i i want to premise it into the idea of battle in relation to the time so warring and fighting

03:12:45.900 um the um context of of warfare back then in relation to weaponry swords and spears and

03:12:57.820 arrows and things of that nature so right out the gate this is talking about

03:13:04.080 don't expose yourself or look up don't hold your head up in times of conflict focus instead

03:13:13.380 um on what's directly in front of you but and that's kind of i'm not trying to create a cryptic

03:13:21.460 meaning to it it's just that this translation is is odd but the value of this may be obviously

03:13:26.880 this is one of those that the value of it to our ancestors was higher than perhaps it is now so we

03:13:33.800 have to fall back on an understanding that has application um to our time perhaps um

03:13:42.720 and this is interesting because sometimes you'll see in the translations they'll they'll say like

03:13:48.760 that you will turn into a pig let me see actually one of the other translations here um let me see

03:13:59.220 it's just, it was very odd. And I was like looking at the, the, you know, 0.77

03:14:03.540 the reasonings behind it. Um, let's give an example here. Uh, well,

03:14:09.080 first off, like, so, uh, yes, chisel, uh, chisel, uh,

03:14:15.040 I give you read load Fafner, heat it well and use it.

03:14:17.960 And you will use it if you learn it and then you will get,

03:14:21.740 get you good. If you understand it, do not look up in battle.

03:14:24.980 the sons of men become like hogs when warriors enchant you and i was wondering about that i think

03:14:34.740 that is uh there there's context to it he he went straight for the direct translation of it um but

03:14:44.740 you can see when you look up the words um if you're looking up in uh in particular guilty

03:14:54.980 uh again it makes reference to hogs but then it shows the context in poetic sense

03:15:00.100 the idea of like lambs to the slaughter if you will is more of the context of that comment or

03:15:08.940 blindfully just walking forward to their death the idea of pigs and hogs um you know moving

03:15:20.080 forward to to to the slaughter is the same as you know sheep being led to the slaughter so

03:15:27.040 in a way it is it is kind of correct with um the uh translation that you know don't look up in

03:15:35.120 battle because you'll be led to the slaughter you know uh especially if and then this is where

03:15:42.240 another one gets very interesting the usage of the word warriors the usage of the word men

03:15:47.040 and hollander uses the word warlock which i thought was an interesting touch um

03:15:57.120 i really think that this is in reference to the idea that

03:16:00.880 the power that is possessed in the confusion of battle um

03:16:08.720 is allowed to intrinsically come into you if you lose focus and that i can definitely speak on

03:16:16.720 The idea of your ability to maintain focus in highly stressful situations that involve multiple components, lots of noise and clear confusion.

03:16:30.960 You have to maintain your focus or you can lose.

03:16:35.960 And I think that this power that is being talked about when they talk about warriors enchanting you or warlocks enchanting you,

03:16:42.060 This is even spoken of in lore elsewhere about the Valkyrie or the Valkyries, that if you look up and see them, that you will get lost in the ecstaticism of the moment, that you will lose your wits and you become like in a battle fog or a battle fetter, kind of locking down or in essence, again, literally shutting down.

03:17:07.420 And I think that this is what our ancestors are kind of being contexted with in this stanza is stay focused on what is directly in front of you.

03:17:20.860 Do not lose focus in the moments of battle.

03:17:23.320 In those key moments, the only thing you have is that if you look away, if you allow a single moment of anything to kind of drive in in these moments, you will fall short.

03:17:36.280 You will be fettered, you will be lost, you will be paralyzed, whatever you want to view it.

03:17:44.900 So in a context that would better fit in our day and age is that I think if you find yourself in a situation and, you know, you need to realize when you are in a situation that your life is on the line,

03:18:07.080 You need to completely focus forward on that and do not stop until the situation has changed.

03:18:15.360 And I think a lot of people, perhaps people that are into self-defense, perhaps people that are into personal protection and concealed weapons carrying and things like that, a lot of people do talk about this in reference to a modern age.

03:18:31.000 but not everyone understands this, but it's the, it's the, um, uh, cumulative action through

03:18:39.240 the incident. So everything has to go through from beginning to end from the moment that there's

03:18:46.340 the threat is perceived. There is the drawing of the weapon. There is the removal of the threat.

03:18:51.660 And then there's follow-up actions in order to ensure that everything is, but the moment this

03:18:57.600 happens, the moment that, you know, the, the, the line is cut or there's the step across and we

03:19:05.200 don't, we, we live our lives not knowing that, but the moment it crosses over, if you have the

03:19:10.460 ability to defend yourself, especially with a firearm or, or with a weapon, the point is to

03:19:14.920 complete the focus all the way through into follow-up actions that allow to ensure the safety

03:19:21.840 of yourself and other people around you. And that means going from point A to point B without

03:19:26.360 looking or thinking or contemplating anything else. You just have to have the

03:19:33.080 prudence to understand when these things happen. And you have to have the clear headedness. You

03:19:42.980 need to have a morally correct understanding of what it means to defend yourself and carry those

03:19:50.960 with you along with your weapon. And then when that time comes and oftentimes it's not when you

03:19:56.940 want it or when you're, you're not, you're not asking for it. And it's certainly, you're, you

03:20:00.800 know, you're only prepared with what you can control. You should cross through that threshold

03:20:05.580 with complete focus. Don't think of anything else until everything is eliminated of threat.

03:20:11.620 And then you can begin to, you know, figure out yourself, the other people around you,

03:20:19.340 and then start working towards fixing the situation and getting proper authorities,

03:20:27.020 making sure that everyone is aware who you are and what you had to do. There's a lot of stuff

03:20:33.580 in that. If anybody's ever really interested in self-defense in this subject in particular,

03:20:40.420 I would highly recommend going and looking at a channel called Active Self-Defense. It is a very

03:20:46.940 good um channel that speaks about this topic in in specifics about the idea of getting lost or

03:20:56.140 getting confused in the moment of trying to defend yourself and things like that so i'm just going

03:21:02.220 with the literal on this one um in relation to modern context and i think that you know having

03:21:09.180 the right to defend yourself is is a right um that has long been with us um since before the

03:21:15.900 constitution um i think our our founding fathers were influenced by anglo-saxon law and that

03:21:23.180 concept of being able to defend yourself was of high value so i mean this applies in battle

03:21:29.820 as its context is here but i think it it does still apply today um in the rare occasions that

03:21:37.420 you might have to defend yourself against someone who is trying to hurt you or your loved ones

03:21:42.140 All right. So I was overly ambitious. I wanted to go to 137. We're going to go to 130 and stop there. Just because I found in these last couple, there's a lot of asides that need to be made.

03:21:58.000 So on this one, there's obviously the very straightforward meaning of it, but I think it's worth reiterating and talking about a little bit.

03:22:12.140 keeping focus and keeping your eyes on the prize it's very easy to get cocky or to think

03:22:21.920 that you've won when it's not really over yet and I think that um there's examples of that again

03:22:34.640 it's much more viscerally relevant to people that regularly would find themselves in life

03:22:43.280 or death struggles but you know i've seen this a number of times and a couple of things first

03:22:51.760 it's one of the reasons that i really am glad that i do a martial art

03:22:56.480 because my mind will be so busy with all the different

03:23:03.960 stresses and concerns and things and plans going on.

03:23:09.640 It is very, very therapeutic and meditative

03:23:14.260 to engage in jujitsu

03:23:20.120 in a way to where I have to be completely focused

03:23:25.020 on exactly what I'm doing, doing a physical task, doing it well, being focused on what

03:23:32.740 my partner is doing. Because if I don't, instinctively, if I don't, I will get hurt

03:23:40.720 or I will hurt someone else. So it's really important to be completely focused while I'm

03:23:46.640 there. And it gives me a period of time where I have that. And that's really beneficial to me

03:23:55.000 mentally because it forces me to be in the moment and focus and not let my mind wander

03:24:01.020 in fighting stuff bouncing that's something that's was really interesting there are so many times

03:24:11.220 there are a number of times i'd say that i have been spared from defeat or from getting knocked

03:24:21.240 out or from bad stuff happening because my opponent often of a chocolatey hue

03:24:32.680 would instead of follow through with a punch they were busy trying to run away before the punch

03:24:38.920 landed so they didn't stick the follow-through i can think of one time i was bouncing at a juicy j

03:24:45.560 concert and i was running security and uh juicy jay and his his ilk oh you can imagine the audience

03:24:55.720 for this this is an anchorage he and his ilk decided it would be awesome when people started

03:25:02.840 a ruckus in the audience to egg them on and encourage them to fight security so i went on

03:25:09.560 stage and i'm like hey turn your music off they're like no no whatever security and i'm like okay

03:25:16.600 i'm going to break your equipment or you're going to turn it off but the music's going to stop

03:25:22.200 so you have between when i where i am and when i get there to turn it off and they did and i got

03:25:28.920 down in the audience and was trying to deal with this with my guys well i was locked up with this

03:25:34.680 Samoan dude we were you know physically engaged where I didn't have my hands free and 0.94

03:25:44.120 this this gentleman decided to get in a punch while my hands were engaged wrestling with this 1.00

03:25:52.120 big Samoan so he comes up and he punches me right in the jaw and man he had me dead to rights he had 1.00

03:25:57.880 me right in the jaw i would have gone down absolutely except for he was busy springing 0.91

03:26:05.240 off of his back foot trying to run off after he stuck me so i was all right i was just a little

03:26:12.200 bit dazed but man if he would have just followed through i would have been down and i would have

03:26:17.240 gotten stomped really bad that absolutely happened and another time that i think is

03:26:23.080 informative to anybody watching this or listening to this

03:26:30.120 an african gentleman bit a chunk out of my bouncing partner's face one time

03:26:39.960 so for whatever reason there is some kind of an exchange in anchorage between

03:26:44.680 i think nursing students or like home health care people between

03:26:53.080 um somewhere in Eastern Africa and Anchorage and I don't know what the deal was but there was some

03:27:02.920 kind of a back and forth trade there anyways there was an African guy and he needed to be 0.61

03:27:08.680 escorted out of the bar and the guy I was working with was much more physically intimidating than

03:27:16.120 this guy and he he had him out and he had him kind of leaned over something and he was you know

03:27:21.880 yelling at him and telling him about himself and you know up really close to the guy's face

03:27:26.140 well my partner got cocky and he wasn't looking he wasn't paying attention so he looked up at 0.53

03:27:32.240 something else and the African guy bit a quarter-sized chunk out of his cheek and then ate it

03:27:41.080 so it is a very visceral reminder to me to always keep your eyes on who you're dealing with because 1.00

03:27:53.080 it's not done till it's done and you never know when somebody's going to try to eat your face

03:27:58.840 Secondly

03:28:01.640 In order to

03:28:04.260 Repair his face

03:28:06.040 They had to take

03:28:07.880 A skin graft 0.98

03:28:09.040 From his buttocks 0.99

03:28:11.160 And then put it on his face 0.99

03:28:15.040 And you guys can guess

03:28:17.160 What we called him

03:28:19.140 And continue to call him

03:28:20.320 Until the end of time

03:28:21.360 And that's what I have

03:28:25.640 On Stanza 29

03:28:27.060 Stay focused or a cannibal is going to eat your face

03:28:33.520 It's a thing, it happened, I was there

03:28:36.000 Not awesome for him

03:28:39.200 Crazy story 0.92

03:28:43.400 Holy crap 0.97

03:28:44.820 I don't know why that just made me laugh so bad

03:28:48.760 Alright, so to cap it off for tonight

03:28:53.940 will you read for them stanza 130 yes so i read the load fafner and hear thou my read profit thou

03:29:04.700 hast if thou hearest great thy gain if thou learnest if thou fain would winst wouldst win

03:29:11.720 a woman's love and gladness get from her fair by thy promise and well fulfilled none loathes what

03:29:19.320 good he gets. So it's interesting when we, Bellows' translations get, not odd, interesting

03:29:34.200 as they go. The major reason I was thinking about the interestingness of this, of this

03:29:43.700 is the Gaman Runam.

03:29:47.880 So Gaman means happiness or joy.

03:29:51.600 And Runam, of course, is runes.

03:29:53.980 So joy runes is what's mentioned in the Old Norse

03:30:01.320 and like giving of the woman runes of joy.

03:30:06.740 And I just, that's, he doesn't mention that.

03:30:11.260 And I think he, he's, I mean, he mentions gladness, but he doesn't really mention the fact of, of the usage of, of joy runes.

03:30:25.900 I, I think it's interesting, but I think what ultimately in the, if you're looking at other translations, if you're looking at the old Norse, it is about, again, pledging your troth.

03:30:36.760 um if if you want love you must pledge troth um and that nothing

03:30:47.460 uh if it is built correctly if it's you give loyalty you give um again troth to her if you

03:30:58.440 give her if you speak and i i think the gammon runer is uh is about the courtship of so if you

03:31:05.740 are attempting to court a woman um and again i think the usage of the word joy runes is is kind

03:31:12.860 of synonymous with perhaps like love songs or uh love poetry um that you should in essence make an

03:31:24.020 effort pledge your truth to her and then you will um get good in return is ultimately how this kind

03:31:35.180 of, um, gets because at the end here, none loathes what good he gets. That's basically

03:31:43.000 saying no one can hold ill or that's actually a bad word considering the context of the

03:31:48.500 whole night. Uh, none has, um, any sense of, um, negative thoughts about the good that

03:31:59.220 you will receive. So you can't, you can't look badly on the good things that you get. If you put

03:32:05.860 in the, the, the work, the, the truth, the loyalty and the dedication to showing the woman

03:32:15.540 that you're trying to be with, uh, if you show her these things and that really kind of then

03:32:23.200 pre-constitutes the idea that you're not, you're not, I guess in this culture, in this day and age,

03:32:28.820 A lot of people talk about the energy in the, I guess, the courtship to get to whatever kind of, again, sexual conquests.

03:32:43.520 But this, I think, has more of an idea towards the union is about placing in this work in order to, again, achieve marriage because ultimately our ancestors were attempting that.

03:32:57.920 Now, that's not necessarily the case in our society today. And I'm not going to stand here and say that, you know, our our religion dictates that you should get married straight away.

03:33:15.100 I think that it is a component in our culture for sure.

03:33:18.800 And it's a component that I think for a lot of folks, we talk about, you know, making sure that if you're attempting to be with someone, you're honest and loyal to them.

03:33:29.980 You're not sleeping around and so on and so forth.

03:33:32.940 And you're working towards the ultimate idea of eventually settling down with this person.

03:33:37.820 And if that doesn't work out and you go with someone else, then that's what happens.

03:33:41.800 so i think that the brevity and truthfulness of that situation is is more important than saying

03:33:48.380 like oh see here the gods say you you should get married i think what they're saying is is that the

03:33:54.120 effort and the truth that you put in is worth the the outcome if you do it if you don't then what

03:34:01.800 you get is you know hookup culture whatever they want to call it that just the vapid you know in

03:34:12.040 and out and none of that makes and no one i have ever heard about met or have known has ever found

03:34:19.460 joy in living that kind of life they've they've gained no joy from it and at the end of the day

03:34:25.140 they're worse for so the idea again is that you should think of every relationship as a young man

03:34:33.340 you should think of every relationship as the possibility of building a family and that means

03:34:39.060 you should put the effort the truth the loyalty and the the work in and if it doesn't work out

03:34:45.080 that's that's part of the of life but at least you did it you didn't go through and just turn

03:34:50.880 into a disposable um rolodex if you will

03:35:01.280 see what i see as a a takeaway from from this stanza is

03:35:10.320 and i think in a way this you know in a roundabout way this relates to taking oaths ensemble 0.88

03:35:16.880 one way to be successful and get goodness from a woman is to

03:35:28.740 make commitments to do things and then be a man of your word and complete those things

03:35:37.880 show that you have the stability to make promises and fulfill the promises.

03:35:48.760 I think we are in a world where things are very disposable and very quick.

03:35:57.540 One of the lessons of the Habelmah that we've read up to this point is about praising ice once it's crossed.

03:36:06.340 It's about building a track record of success that you can place actual confidence in instead of promises and words and manipulations.

03:36:19.820 Build a track record of making promises and following through on those promises and being a source of stability.

03:36:28.980 I think that that may not get you laid that will bring the attention of a woman of value who wants a serious man in her life by showing that you are trustworthy and capable of accomplishing the things that you say that you're going to do.

03:36:50.900 that stability and that follow through transcends circumstance or economics or

03:36:59.920 different scenarios it's a statement of character that you're capable and compelled

03:37:06.740 to follow through on the things you promised to complete with that I appreciate you guys tonight

03:37:13.580 we do have some questions that I want to get answered this evening and I appreciate you guys

03:37:19.460 bearing with us um first and perhaps out of order um i see somebody in the chat max settings um

03:37:35.060 just i feel bad that you're you're feeling hopeless about our situation and black build

03:37:41.700 on some stuff i gotta ask if you're a member or not if you're not i'd invite you to look into it

03:37:49.140 you think about it um you mentioned that you you're thinking about moving to western pennsylvania or

03:37:54.660 western virginia i think both of those are really good options for you westford western pennsylvania

03:38:01.700 would put you very close to where we plan to establish phrase off but yeah there's a lot of

03:38:09.300 things in the big world that surround us that are not where we want them and i think that we all feel

03:38:16.020 that we all have dealt with that and deal with it continuously but we're building some really

03:38:24.660 amazing things together in the house true folk assembly and it is

03:38:32.740 i for one am extremely glad i found the afa and i'm a part of it because it gives me something

03:38:39.140 that is hopeful it gives me a refuge for all the things that are blackpilling out in the in the

03:38:46.100 world i have a community that i can affect of people that share values with me and we can lean

03:38:55.180 on each other and build together you also mentioned that you know it sounds like you're moving

03:39:01.180 someplace if you were to want to join the afa we're trying to consolidate our members in certain

03:39:07.440 areas and a big thing that we're doing is trying to get folks to move to sigerheim

03:39:12.480 uh if you don't know sigerheim is about 70 years that we're going to have folks living on

03:39:19.280 uh we already do have have one person living on and that we're trying to get folks closer

03:39:24.400 to as a matter of fact that's where i'm moving uh here hopefully in the next year or two um

03:39:31.840 um but yeah we're building community and that's the idea is to get people there in Jackson County

03:39:38.680 Tennessee if folks are wanting to do that but if not get wherever there's other AFA members but

03:39:44.320 we're doing some really special things and uh you know if you're interested I'd invite you to

03:39:50.260 check that out and consider being a part of it um I don't want any of our people to feel

03:39:55.300 alone, to feel isolated, and to feel black-pilled about life. We've got some beautiful things that

03:40:02.520 we're doing, and we're doing them together. Looking through on our questions a little bit

03:40:12.540 here. The first one is a question for you, Svon. I want to know if there's a link, if you have any

03:40:21.260 kind of a link to the review slash commentary about the time machine movie you mentioned earlier

03:40:26.740 uh she said uh alce miller says i saw the one by black pilled comparing both versions but not sure

03:40:38.560 if you're referring referencing that one so if you i am you are okay cool yes exactly the one

03:40:45.380 got it you hit the nail on the head uh all right so and i'm sorting through because a couple of

03:40:53.940 these questions we've already hit um all right

03:41:07.780 oh okay here's a question um and i do not have anything to offer on this and i did try to look it

03:41:14.020 up uh while swan was was talking about something just to see and i can't find anything on it

03:41:21.620 so swan maybe have something to offer on this uh heathen man asks i was catching up on a show i'd

03:41:27.220 missed a couple of months back and swan was telling the story of how reykjavik's location

03:41:33.140 was chosen by thor the faroese are close by and their capital is thor's haven literally thor's

03:41:43.380 haven i wonder if there is a similar story to it as well i cannot find one but spawn do you

03:41:51.300 know of any story about the founding of the town of thor's haven and you know any special occurrences

03:42:00.420 with that i do not um actually i don't know a lot about the faroese people i'm familiar with

03:42:12.500 the couple of musical bands that have come out of there and I really enjoyed

03:42:16.300 their music.

03:42:17.700 I would like to look into that and then answer that next episode.

03:42:23.820 See if whatever I can find,

03:42:25.660 like the first thing I'll say is what I found,

03:42:29.280 but I don't know anything.

03:42:32.640 I mean,

03:42:33.260 I imagine of course too,

03:42:34.620 there may have been a founding farmstead or even I would,

03:42:40.180 it'd be amazing it like find out there was a hoff there um but the faroese and the icelanders all

03:42:47.620 were attempting to move away from herald fair hair uh mainly because of tax disputes and um

03:42:57.780 interestingly enough the faroese didn't go the route of you know name the country like oh it's

03:43:04.580 dreadful and ice uh they in essence um kind of hit not hid in their obscurity but just kind of

03:43:13.180 uh let it lie and then they're also being kind of like a joint or a stopping point between there

03:43:19.680 and scotland was was kind of like beneficial just as a place of port um but no i don't i don't know

03:43:30.500 uh anything behind that i want to know so i'm gonna write that down and then i'm gonna

03:43:36.340 find out there we go side note uh over in the chat um

03:43:43.540 mephilis 78 um don't move to nebraska that's horrible that's the middle of nowhere

03:43:51.460 but do what do what you're gonna do i'm looking at the map though

03:43:56.020 uh maybe before when you were considering it or talking to folks that was the case and it all

03:44:02.260 depends on where in the state if you are in the western half of Nebraska Colorado may in fact be

03:44:09.940 your closest other members but um in the eastern half uh we've got a folk builder we've got two

03:44:17.620 folk builders uh a husband and wife in the Omaha area we've got a decent number of members there

03:44:24.220 olaha and uh we've got folks a little ways away surrounding that area so there is you know in the

03:44:32.460 eastern half of that state there is some good things happening and afa members and in the

03:44:39.020 western half you know it'd be great if we could build some membership over there there's just

03:44:43.340 quite frankly not a not a huge amount of population there to work from but i just wanted to kind of

03:44:50.860 update that if that affects your your thinking or the involvement that you may want to have

03:44:56.220 because we do have some stuff going on just in the eastern half of that state um next we've got

03:45:09.420 um albert goldsteinberg uh

03:45:15.020 uh what say you to the half-whites who cling on to catholicism um 0.81

03:45:25.340 swan do you have any thoughts on that

03:45:28.860 um are we are we talking about uh hispanic people i'm assuming you're talking

03:45:35.340 about or that various you know there's been a tremendous rise in mixed race persons in recent

03:45:46.220 decades um maybe that's what he's talking about i'm assuming well i mean i've always found

03:45:54.140 catholicism to have that heavy bent especially when we talk about the mediterranean uh branch

03:46:02.300 we're talking about the italians and the the spaniards and the portuguese i mean they they

03:46:06.620 clearly have that sense of um you know their their their language and their culture are very strong

03:46:16.540 so strong i would i would dare to say that any uh gaelic influence in the mainland where they

03:46:23.180 were was completely absorbed or obliterated so like they do have a strong language and culture

03:46:29.420 but they don't do not focus on um ethnicity i mean the conquistadors that entered into

03:46:38.880 um the aztecs were led there by a mestiza that a child of someone had been with someone else and

03:46:48.200 this child ended up having the linguistics of both and led them to them because of how terrible 0.97

03:46:53.920 they were to some of the surrounding and local tribes so they've always kind of been that way

03:46:59.600 and i think that kind of ultimately extends with the the concept of uh nation versus empire and um

03:47:07.200 and and rome kind of started hitting that towards the latter time periods um so catholicism by that

03:47:16.240 extension is an empire in its own right or thinking and uh that i think one of the big

03:47:23.040 things about them is that that is not a factor that that plagues them they do not concern

03:47:28.720 themselves with um ethnicity being one of the major pillars of identity of people but universal

03:47:36.480 religions do this same with islam so if you look at the malaysians with islam and if you look at 0.87

03:47:41.520 south america with the catholics their culture their language that's what transfers race does

03:47:48.080 not. Ethnicity does not. And it has a bulldozing effect in a large sense of what they're doing.

03:47:55.960 And again, universalism attempts to be universal, but it always generally sticks with an ideology. 0.98

03:48:03.720 And I think a lot of like folkish minded Catholics, few and far between, are looking at

03:48:10.960 Catholicism as a culture of Europe. But then again, if you dig just a little bit under the

03:48:16.560 surface, then, you know, you get into, uh, Semitic mythology, uh, and, and, and ideology or, or

03:48:23.360 religion. And so ultimately it's a Middle Eastern religion with a European veneer over top of it.

03:48:31.580 And that ultimately leads to it being false and, and, and hollow in the long run. Um, but that 0.98

03:48:40.540 allows it to come into places integrate and you know create a uh you know a sense with them that

03:48:50.060 is not based off of ethnicity it just isn't and it never has been um universal religions don't

03:48:56.140 have a tendency to do that and i've often wondered what would it be like if a folkish religion was to

03:49:01.500 spread into areas where there were non-folk people and the idea of like their religion being their

03:49:08.380 own versus not, you know, allowance. And you could even look into the invasion of the Aryans in 0.74

03:49:14.800 India and how that turned out for them or what, you know, the precepts of like, you're not allowed

03:49:20.460 to touch our cows. And that turned into nobody eats cows over generations and generations. So

03:49:27.000 integrity of, uh, religion on an ethnic base is very different and it involves some context or

03:49:37.920 hurdles. Empires grow well when they have kind of, um, they don't purity spiral. So that's one

03:49:45.880 benefit that empires have. Um, whereas, you know, uh, ethno nation or ethno theological or folk

03:49:54.980 nations have a tendency to have that hurdle where it's like, no, there is clearly us. And then,

03:50:00.280 um, you know, so I think that's the, it's just the by-product of that. That's what you're going

03:50:07.200 to get if you look in south america if you look in other places where catholicism reigns or where 0.98

03:50:12.660 the colonies of the islamics um reigns in southeast asia that's what you find they don't uh care

03:50:21.360 except interestingly enough i guess because one this side is a colonies of spain with south

03:50:26.900 american versus the islamics of um southeast asia they didn't really intermix with the asians there

03:50:33.300 They kept a huge, strong separation between the Arabic people and the Southeast Asian Malaysian island chain people.

03:50:46.400 They did not intermix as much.

03:50:48.640 So, again, you know, the Mediterranean Catholic emboldened passions often apparently was leveled towards people who weren't of their own ethnicity.

03:51:04.020 That is what it is. It's one of my critiques. 0.89

03:51:06.560 but i don't yeah i don't one of the questions and it's expected of religious leaders to have

03:51:17.840 the perfect answer to all of the questions um unfortunately that's not that's not real um

03:51:27.520 um people who are of a 50 mixed ethnicity I don't know what to tell those people they 1.00

03:51:38.860 are in a rough spot I don't have the answers for them I have the macro answer but it's not

03:51:48.400 what folks want to hear the macro answer is I wish their parents would have listened to me and that

03:51:58.320 those folks would not find themselves in that same conundrum i don't know what to tell them

03:52:04.000 i can't honestly say that they should pursue folk faiths that aren't that they're only half welcome

03:52:12.960 in and half not if at that but again i don't set the rules for attendance with other people's

03:52:20.320 folk religions if they're 50 if they're you know half not white then they cannot be members of the

03:52:29.920 afa and nobody considers them white maybe if they're half black and half white the black

03:52:39.520 community would consider them black or the hispanic computer community would consider them hispanic

03:52:46.640 or the Asians would consider them Asian. 0.89

03:52:49.700 And that's up to them.

03:52:50.720 I think folk religions are the best bet for people of that folk.

03:52:58.820 But when people occupy an in-between spot, it's very unfortunate.

03:53:06.160 And it puts people in a spot that it's not that I absolutely have compassion for.

03:53:13.080 Just don't know what to tell them the answer is.

03:53:16.640 I would encourage other people not to produce children in that way so that they are faced with not truly belonging in either of the two worlds they find themselves in.

03:53:33.660 And I don't fault them if people who find themselves in that spot pursue a universalist religion like Catholicism. 0.81

03:53:42.260 And Christianity is built on the backs of downtrodden underclasses of people for this kind of reason.

03:53:54.980 It catches a lot of the people that fall through the cracks because of a variety of unfortunate circumstances.

03:54:05.100 And I'm not criticizing those people for making that choice.

03:54:08.820 it would be wrong of me to deny them entry into our faith but then criticize them for going to

03:54:17.100 a different faith so I'm not going to do that I just think that that whole situation is very sad

03:54:23.680 and I wish that weren't the case and that their parents did not make that choice to put them in

03:54:30.780 that spot I think that's one of the really important things to consider when choosing

03:54:35.940 someone to create babies with is the future that you're you're giving those children

03:54:42.900 so this one is this one is touchy and I've been thinking on it looking at it since it came out

03:54:53.040 I'll let you answer first if you'd like and I think honestly you've earned the right to answer

03:54:58.540 this verse uh matt and svan are you proud to be american are you patriotic what say you swan

03:55:10.380 that's an interesting one uh

03:55:16.940 i mean i would be amiss to say that i am not um i am in context though

03:55:26.460 um and i feel like i have earned the ability to place context on the subject um

03:55:34.680 and i i don't want to sound cliche and say you know i love my country but i hate my government

03:55:42.020 um i think it's more along the lines that um that which we believed in when we were children

03:55:54.280 When I was young, when I came to this country, when I got rid of my dual citizenship to become an American only, because I don't like to have one foot in one side and one foot in the other.

03:56:08.360 I like to be all in. I believed in much of the patriotism of our country, and I believed in the ultimate goodness of our country.

03:56:25.320 And I was willing to join the Marine Corps and defend the Constitution.

03:56:30.160 The Constitution to me is still a document that I really look into a lot. It fascinates me.

03:56:36.440 I think that the outcome of what was done by the Founding Fathers was short, nothing short of amazing in a lot of ways, just in the governance sense.

03:56:49.760 Do I agree with everything? No, not at all.

03:56:52.380 But is it still amazing at the level of what they did at the time with history and context, all that?

03:56:59.260 Yeah, it blows my mind.

03:57:00.520 Um, I, um, you know, and I think about the, what, what ifs of things, but ultimately

03:57:09.360 I love the nation of America and it's, it's tangible things. The fact that I can be an

03:57:25.780 also true man in this country without, you know, um, ultimately like sanctioned, um,

03:57:38.780 you know, uh, I keep saying, you know, uh, sanctioned, uh, discrimination against my faith.

03:57:46.260 Uh, I'm allowed to carry a weapon to defend myself from, you know, threats and I can protect my

03:57:52.160 family. These things are tangible deeds that are culminated out of our country that I think is

03:57:59.640 beautiful and very powerful and greater than many other places, especially kind of within the

03:58:06.700 context of things, but where it's, you know, on the other side, when people talk about the nation

03:58:14.760 as an idea and the idea can change and the constitution is elastic and so on and so forth,

03:58:21.080 That kind of stuff, I think, I'm not proud of. I'm not on board with a lot of that. I don't hold true to that a lot. I think that we should go back to a traditional sense of the Constitution, not conserving, I believe, in the traditionalism of it.

03:58:47.080 but if i was thinking about the question when because i did see it before and i was like

03:58:52.220 um if if someone had a gun to my head and said i are you an american i would say yes

03:58:57.900 unflinchingly so so i don't know what that makes me i mean i would never deny it and i would

03:59:05.700 hold true to my my loyalty and my troth to where i am to the soil i'm on and i would never ever

03:59:11.100 change that so is that being patriotic i don't know i don't again i don't always believe in

03:59:19.820 things that the government tells us we should be patriotic about so um i guess it depends on

03:59:26.140 the context of the word um you know our our our helping in foreign wars i was deeply affected

03:59:34.940 personally by the invasion of russia to the ukraine in relation to my family and uh you know

03:59:43.300 people in my family that actually know and have been there in ukraine and things of that nature

03:59:49.120 and i'm not trying to get into the debate of russia versus ukraine or whatever it's just that

03:59:54.180 this uh war did have its effect but i still stood by the idea that we don't need to get involved in

03:59:59.680 this and i certainly don't think we need to get involved with these altercations in the middle

04:00:03.580 east and so on and so forth and i see all of this propaganda i see all of this like attempts by

04:00:08.540 people to pull america into these proxy wars and so on and so forth and i i'm i'm over it but i

04:00:17.940 think that do we have the ability to truly stop it as a no i don't i think that uh it's almost

04:00:26.780 completely out of our hands so we can only focus on what we do have and hold on to the fact that

04:00:33.100 this country still gives us the the modicum of of freedom to do the things that we can do and have

04:00:41.180 and live our lives in in that kind of you know peace it's it's not overflown into outright you

04:00:48.280 know they're just uh what is it i remember uh laughing what is re-education camps and state

04:00:56.480 funded homosexuality for your children uh what's his name um sam hyde was joking about that he was

04:01:01.780 like, ah, they're, you know, this, this level of just absolute insanity being state enforced 0.69

04:01:08.400 and so on and so forth. Um, it's like, yeah, that's, that's funny. I'm glad it's not there

04:01:15.580 yet. Like, so I'm very, very happy to have the things that are afforded me, uh, by right.

04:01:23.300 And I'm glad that in, in, in this country, you can, in essence, choose to live the way you want

04:01:28.760 to live um to a degree uh and i am a person who wants to help out my community i am a person who

04:01:37.000 wants to ensure the safety of my neighbors um so to that degree even even people i don't know

04:01:43.300 it's ultimately i think it's more noble to consider these things um in a perfect world we

04:01:49.160 could always premise the idea of what uh our a perfect environment and country would be

04:01:54.920 or nation or what have you. But at the end of the day, you still have to act nobly still have

04:01:59.500 to help people. I think it's important that you don't compromise your character at the fact that

04:02:06.980 you're stuck in a situation that's got a lot of terrible people involved or just people you don't

04:02:14.140 know and innocent people or what have you. I think that's deeply ignoble. So from a loyalty

04:02:18.760 standpoint and from a nobility standpoint, I am very proud of certain things about this country.

04:02:27.940 From an ethics standpoint, a political standpoint, and a theosophical standpoint, I've got

04:02:34.400 contentions that I can't say I'm proud of the way some of the choices that our nation is making and

04:02:43.620 has made um in the past so this is a very very difficult question and people get very

04:02:55.740 passionate about the answer to it in a lot of different ways and i think rightly so um

04:03:02.380 i owe it to you guys to be honest that's kind of a pillar of this program

04:03:11.100 and i truly don't know how to answer the question because it seems to mean different things

04:03:21.640 You know, if

04:03:24.900 You lived

04:03:28.120 And this may seem like a strange way to go

04:03:31.960 But it's just something that comes to mind

04:03:33.700 If you were a person born in the middle of the 1700s

04:03:41.920 And you lived to the middle of the 1800s 0.81

04:03:44.760 And you were a Frenchman

04:03:45.780 can you have been a royalist

04:03:54.460 and then still call yourself a patriotic frenchman through the terror through the republic

04:04:05.940 through the empire

04:04:08.760 back through being a royalist back through the republic

04:04:15.200 at what point are you a patriotic Frenchman and not and how much is the fact that you are a Frenchman

04:04:26.840 born in France whose ancestors are buried in France makes you patriotic Frenchman I don't

04:04:35.840 I wonder what that looks like and I think it's an interesting question because you know

04:04:41.060 um folks at that time some of the most ardent revolutionary Republican egalitarian Frenchmen

04:04:50.120 were also the Imperial guard of Emperor Napoleon when he introduced the Empire of France and

04:04:58.880 reintroduced um nobility and hereditary monarchy so I don't know what that looks like um and and

04:05:07.280 a that may seem like a ridiculous historical side but it's a question that does come to mind

04:05:13.600 what does being an american mean man i was raised very patriotic my family's always

04:05:19.600 been extremely patriotic on both sides um you know as a kid i can just remember getting all

04:05:29.680 so proud and so inspired by the flag and by um what's his face is proud to be an american song

04:05:41.440 during the the iraq war that was super exciting and i was i was really gung-ho

04:05:48.800 and uh i've got a proud history of service on both both sides of my family

04:05:54.400 but man i'm

04:05:59.840 there was once a meaning to what being an american meant i'm proud of that i am patriotic

04:06:11.280 to that that used to mean masculine

04:06:17.120 swagger and will to conquer things and to make stuff happen and to go out and punch somebody 0.53

04:06:28.640 in the mouth if they said the wrong thing. And it was a robust masculinity, an assertion of will,

04:06:37.080 a celebration of protecting the underdog from bullies and of, you know, supporting the idea

04:06:50.200 of people having freedom. And I'm, I'm all for those things. I don't think that 2024 America

04:07:01.380 means that. I've literally had a number of my presidents recently tell me that that's not what

04:07:09.040 America means anymore. So I don't know whether the question is patriotism to

04:07:15.400 what represents current American-ness, I guess, to whatever you can make that

04:07:24.680 versus the classical.

04:07:26.860 And this is the thing.

04:07:29.040 Yes, I am a patriotic 1980s American.

04:07:33.300 Absolutely.

04:07:35.520 But I don't know if that exists now.

04:07:41.080 Increasingly, with every growing year,

04:07:44.720 America is a place that I happen to find myself,

04:07:48.580 but there's very little commonality.

04:07:50.360 There's not commonality with my neighbors.

04:07:52.300 There's not commonality with the ruling elite in our country.

04:07:57.460 There's not commonality of any kind of value that bonds us together.

04:08:01.600 As a matter of fact, in a lot of places, the flag of America itself is so offensive that you're not supposed to display it.

04:08:12.100 I don't know what to say to that because then that literally posts current America against symbols of American patriotism.

04:08:21.100 so it's such a strange question because i don't know what it means um you know do i

04:08:30.540 am i gung-ho on on the revolution and democracy you know free masonic democracy versus

04:08:39.740 you know hereditary but foppish and grotesquely deformed monarchy i don't know it's strange

04:08:48.780 and it's hard to say because i'm not a person of that time um when i see all of the things that i

04:08:55.500 dislike about our country currently is there any other country that's of our folk in the west that's

04:09:03.020 better i don't think so that's the thing um i think that the things that would lead me

04:09:12.940 away from patriotism and pride in my country are suffered much more so in other western countries

04:09:22.860 than here i think honestly in the west our freedoms that we still do have even though

04:09:30.940 they are infringed upon more and more every year are a boom that so many other people don't have

04:09:39.500 And I appreciate that immensely.

04:09:46.820 So it's just such a hard question that I don't know how to answer.

04:09:50.920 I'm not going to disavow it.

04:09:52.360 It's where I live.

04:09:53.600 And you got to rep the home team at some point.

04:09:57.040 I get that.

04:09:58.700 And I don't want to disrespect the service of my ancestors or of people who are close to me.

04:10:07.300 but it's a very very strange question and it's not a question that i truly know how to give an

04:10:15.460 honest answer to i've tried to nuance it out as best i can if i found myself in a foreign country

04:10:23.460 and they're complaining about americans i'm absolutely going to stick up for america because

04:10:28.500 that's that's the hand i was dealt where i'm at but it would have been a much easier full-throated

04:10:36.980 thing to do 30 years ago than it is currently um but i think that's a greater issue with the west

04:10:47.300 than just the united states so let's say it's a it's a depressing and not a question i really

04:10:55.300 know how to give a great answer to i don't like the current it's going but i try to be as active

04:11:00.660 as i can um in advocating for positions that i do think that i am proud of and trying to you know

04:11:14.820 sometimes it doesn't count but i go out and vote every time to try to

04:11:19.300 help make things better where they're at i will tell you what i'm much more devoted to

04:11:26.740 is the Asa True Folk Assembly and the world that we are building.

04:11:34.120 I feel much more kinship and connectedness to any member of the AFA in any country

04:11:41.800 than I do to a guy down the street because he is also technically an American.

04:11:47.720 I'll say that.

04:11:49.060 um the afa and in my my race and my religion have a much higher degree of my loyalty than

04:12:02.460 my country does um and that's just honest um but at the same point in time it's just such

04:12:10.640 a hard thing because so much of growing up was identified with being so proud to be an american

04:12:17.240 um so it's really it's really a hard time um it's one of those things you know my dad

04:12:24.020 has always been super patriotic and still is but you know he acknowledged that man this is the

04:12:31.720 first generation coming up that he's not confident he's that it's going to leave something better for

04:12:37.260 their children so no i and and the stuff on the side never stopped like yeah absolutely we're

04:12:43.540 to keep doing the best we can um and i hope great things happen for it but i uh yeah it's it it's

04:12:54.660 hard because my my level of excitement for americanness is certainly not what it once was

04:13:01.940 um and that tends to ebb and flow depending on each election it's really it's really a

04:13:10.580 strange time that we live in but uh that's that's my honest answer to where i'm at and i it's

04:13:18.100 probably not gonna please everybody that listens but it's it's the truth um it's kind of the best

04:13:25.700 i got another question that i have go ahead i was gonna say one thing just to add levity to the

04:13:33.940 situation is i do enjoy um and i you know the american flag um i i'm more particular to the um

04:13:42.980 betsy ross flag but i do enjoy the fact that there is still a people on social media seem to litmus

04:13:50.500 test the idea that when they see a lot of american flags they they don't like it they hate it or you

04:13:57.540 you know, they show their politics. So I enjoy, uh, you know, having, um, the American flag

04:14:04.300 still has that power to kind of make the, the jackals that live within the confines and kind

04:14:12.540 of suckle on the, on the benefits of the country, uh, also kind of, you know, they, they, it makes

04:14:19.620 some, nah, you know, I enjoy, I enjoy the fact that they, they, in their propaganda and they're

04:14:27.380 somehow in their strange little worldview that if they see American flags, they think they're in

04:14:32.560 danger. Yeah. I don't know why that tells me to no end. When, when lefties are scared of it,

04:14:42.680 it makes me more excited about it um i'll tell you that um

04:14:50.840 but yeah the whole the whole state of the west and the nation states of the west are

04:14:56.840 there was a time where being an american meant something very very specific it absolutely meant

04:15:06.280 europe of european ancestry it meant a specific strain of european ancestry that were the adventurers

04:15:17.080 and the um the folks who set out to have manifest destiny and do those kind of things that americanism

04:15:30.760 i absolutely love and i hope that we reclaim that at some point um it is not what's in vogue

04:15:38.680 in america at present however uh but that being said uh i got a question matt how has

04:15:45.720 your fighting improved since starting martial arts i don't know um

04:15:51.720 Um, it's a strange question because I haven't found myself getting in a fight in a very long

04:16:01.280 time.

04:16:01.820 I no longer am a bouncer, but one of the things that I'll say during my time bouncing, the

04:16:08.620 better I got at it, the less I actually had to use any physical skill.

04:16:15.420 And I think that's a really important piece. When you have developed a certain level of competency at something, your self-confidence projects that.

04:16:38.980 And when you have a projection of self-confidence, and I think in a lot of ways this is a reflection on the woad self, sometimes people can see when you are green and you are somebody who they would do all right trifling with, and they see you differently when you have experience and ability behind you.

04:17:06.720 you have a presence that you wouldn't have otherwise and fortunately i

04:17:14.620 for whatever reason have not found myself in a spot where i'm i'm getting in a lot of fights

04:17:23.760 but you know i'm a 42 year old man i don't think there's a lot of occasion for me to be in fights

04:17:28.740 i want to be ready for them if they come my way i'm not going to duck them but i also

04:17:34.500 So I'm at a point in my life, experience-wise, physicality-wise, and just, I don't know,

04:17:45.560 self-image-wise, to where a lot of fights just don't come my way.

04:17:50.340 And I think that would be less so if I stopped training, if I didn't do martial arts, if

04:17:59.220 i didn't work out if i wasn't prepared i imagine i would find a lot more reasons to be in fights

04:18:07.380 uh for for what that's worth um

04:18:12.980 all right so the next question we got here uh i have an important question is from avocado toast

04:18:22.020 my mom's family is norse from uh valdress norway

04:18:29.220 my dad's family is from spain and italy so i'm european i'm white i am of norwegian descent but

04:18:36.340 is my ancestry acceptable um acceptable to who you're absolutely welcome to join the afa if

04:18:44.500 that's indeed your ancestry what we have seen in the past is sometimes people

04:18:50.180 say that their ancestry is from spain or portugal is also in a culprit and that turns out to really

04:19:00.560 not be the case but if honestly your family is from norwegians and spaniards and italians you

04:19:06.860 are very welcome to be part of the australia focus assembly we're pan-european and we're

04:19:11.540 pan-arian and i think that's that's fantastic and you should join up

04:19:17.300 that being said that's the last question we have for tonight run a little bit longer than has the

04:19:25.400 previous couple of weeks I appreciate you guys bearing with some of the long-winded asides that

04:19:30.980 we went on this evening but I think it's been a really good show and as always I appreciate you

04:19:36.860 guys participation thank you very much for that it's fun thank you for coming on and showing

04:19:43.280 i don't know your your mastery of of our lore and uh and your wisdom and sharing that with all of us

04:19:53.360 it's always great to have you on we appreciate that thank you sir for having me all right

04:19:59.200 everybody have a great night and we will talk to you again in one week's time we will continue

04:20:06.560 in our study of the have them all it is

04:20:11.040 a really amazing piece of wisdom that we're blessed with from our gods and uh

04:20:18.480 i'm getting a lot out of the study i hope you guys are as well

04:20:22.000 and we'll take all the time we need to get through it in in a worthy way because it's um

04:20:27.760 it's fantastic and we would all do well to heed the read

04:20:34.240 all right guys everybody have a great night until next time hail the gods hail the folk

04:20:44.460 hail the afa and remember that victory never sleeps bye everybody

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Asatru Folk Assembly - March 07, 2024

3⧸6⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 87 - Hávamál, Part 5

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