00:04:49.720I'm doing well. I'm doing well. I'm seeing a lot of the comments now. And hi, everybody. I see Ian's here. And thank you, Europa. Every now and then a barber does have to get his hair cut. Otherwise, he's just gonna, it's bad advertising.
00:05:08.060Yeah, who cuts the barber's hair? I can't reveal that. But it's certainly not me. I can't cut my own hair.
00:05:13.840you have a really interesting uh winter nights ritual with the hair cutting don't you
00:05:20.600yeah uh it kind of started organically uh winter nights was one of my first a of afa events and um
00:05:29.520uh i i had just started barbering and then eventually i brought my stuff up there one year
00:05:36.260and it was uh like early on in the uh event so before everyone really started showing up
00:05:42.860And just started cutting hair. And then this last winter night, I mean, I was up, I think I was standing up on that, the wraparound porch cutting hair for almost six hours. Just one haircut after another, after another razor blades, shaving and all that stuff. So it was fun.
00:06:01.720Getting everybody cleaned up before the big day.
00:06:03.760yeah i unfortunately i i didn't bring my gear um for uh ostara um but again crazy kind of event
00:06:12.840and being in in my home uh territory it's kind of hard to just focus on cutting hair got to do a lot
00:06:23.420of other stuff so yeah yeah but it's a nice tradition at winter nights at winter nights yes
00:06:29.140Absolutely. Always the first pictures we see of winter nights is of Svan cutting hair and everybody's sitting around getting all cleaned up.
00:06:36.640So I'm going to have to challenge our women folk because, you know, I haven't seen those women with curlers in their hair and nails and stuff together.
00:06:44.380So I'm going to have to give that out to a challenge to our AFA ladies.
00:06:49.160If the men can get all spiffed up the night before, we should be able to get our hair up in curlers and not be judged.
00:06:56.120much longer process for the ladies though the hair the longer the hair for sure absolutely
00:07:05.240so we do have uh ostara coming up this weekend right yes yes we do um we've got um ostara coming
00:07:14.700up at thor's hof um i'll be i'll be there we are um you know we make it a three-day event
00:07:22.740and uh most folks are you know staying uh in the area and um you know as we hold a big
00:07:31.920bloat to thor and then uh of course to ostara and her opening up the gates
00:07:39.720delinger's hall is opened up and then the warmth comes forth and and and our preparation from
00:07:45.600charming the plow is seen to fruition and that's the starting line it's time to get things going
00:07:50.580And from then until Freyfaxi, we've got our season and we just had Charming in the Plow.
00:07:56.420So we're ready to go chomping at the bit.
00:07:59.460And I mean, of course, to the kids, the kids are a big thing for Austria.
00:08:02.880You know, the egg races. Yeah, egg races are going to be fun.
00:08:09.260You know, decoration of the eggs and storytelling, things like that.
00:08:14.160So it's going to be a great time. Awesome.
00:08:16.660Awesome. Can you tell us a little bit about this holiday of Ostara? What can our, you know,
00:08:22.740if our folk can't make it down to Thor's Hof or to next weekend to, you know, the Hof near them,
00:08:29.140what can they do at home to help bring that season in and show their devotion to Ostara?
00:08:35.860Well, I mean, that's the beauty of Ostara's holiday is that she is, or has never really left.
00:08:44.700um you know the traditions of the eggs traditions of the rabbits and candy and things like that
00:08:51.240i i have heard uh you know from a secular standpoint a lot of folks you know talk about the
00:08:56.760the the uh like easter bunny coming and hiding things and i think that's that's perfectly fine
00:09:03.840uh you know we we do that with the you know uh western culture does that having the um the uh
00:09:11.960kids being treated by the you know elusive spirit of giving and things like that but
00:09:20.360as far as uh individual devotion i think it's worth noting that i you know i've always viewed
00:09:27.880ostara as one of the six heavenly wardens um if we talk about the uh wardens of heaven we're
00:09:33.960talking about of course the celestial machinations that the gods set into place so we're talking
00:09:39.560about Sunnah and Mauni and of course Dellinger and day and night and the rotation of the earth and
00:09:45.960and of course to the distance, the placement. And so Ostara's time is hearkened by the eastern star
00:09:55.800and the idea that the gate, that gate is being opened in Dellings Hall and the warmth of
00:10:03.160summer tide is beginning and so the process of all of the preparation of charming of the plow
00:10:11.160funnels into growth of this moment so i would say really you know ostra is the goddess of the dawn
00:10:19.640she's been with our people since since the dawn of our uh our our you know reckoning and
00:10:27.400And she has been with us in many other folk branches, whether it's the Hellenics or the Slavics or, you know, even all the way to the ancient Vedic peoples, you know.
00:10:43.460So the celebration of the dawn that day in specifics would be a great time to make honor if you, you know, perhaps if you don't have children, if you're young and you're single.
00:10:53.300um you know gathering before the dawn uh to harken the new time the tiding of the summer
00:11:02.460uh as it begins um because we have between now and midsummer is the you know is the starting point
00:11:09.720and then from june 21st to about fray faxie to winter finding that's when things are starting
00:11:16.660to wind down again so if we don't have a lot of time and so it's really about
00:11:21.880bringing to fruition our ideals bringing to fruition our goals so oftentimes i you know
00:11:30.320the traditions of painting an egg painting it with um specific symbols um sometimes even you
00:11:37.920know popping a hole at the bottom and blowing the yoke out and then keeping that egg as a keepsake
00:11:43.520some folks will sacrifice their egg and bury it in the ground as a symbol of wanting what they have
00:11:51.580you know focused on to come true other folks like to keep it and um you know they'll hang it up from
00:11:57.980from uh strings or sometimes they place them on you know little pins or like almost like
00:12:03.340skewered sticks um and you can you know put them in wax and have them kind of stacked up almost
00:12:09.340like an egg tree with each you know year adding on a new egg um some people do like ukrainian style
00:12:16.860uh pascal eggs where they will you know draw on the egg with beeswax and then dip in subsequent
00:12:24.540ink and those are very beautiful those can get extremely intricate i think that uh the slavic
00:12:29.340tradition um or i mean i would even argue you know with the ukrainians there they are a slavic
00:12:35.740germanic people um especially all the way back to the foundings of kiev by the goths um you know a
00:12:43.020a lot of their traditions are really, really beautiful, colorful. Um, I think that's a big
00:12:47.980thing too, color, uh, you know, bringing in color and, and life. I think people get a little bit
00:12:54.160too much into the, you know, black face paints and shoulder pelts and, um, you know, edgy edginess,
00:13:01.740uh, and they forget kind of the beauty and the joy and the happiness of, you know,
00:13:08.980So that this time, the dawn and what it what it truly is to our people and what she means in the process of this starting.
00:13:21.040So, you know, lots of lots of I would say different things because I've heard so many people do different stuff in different parts of the United States and in Europe and all over that they just it's hard for me to say one thing or another.
00:13:38.820there's just so much of the traditions, but you could hold a bloat or, um, you know, uh, in the,
00:13:45.200in the dawn, you could hold it that day again, creating those, the, the wish eggs. Um, you know,
00:13:52.980there's a lot of stuff. And of course, traditionally, uh, this time too, I know that a lot of folks
00:14:01.300like eat lamb uh and i think that has christian connotations as well but uh for us uh i think in
00:14:09.060our true the the big one of course is hassen pfeffer uh different rabbit dishes so if you
00:14:14.900can't do anything in the morning uh you know you gotta work early dawn um maybe hold a bloat that
00:14:20.740night and just give thanks for that day um and have a meal uh if you can get rabbit you know
00:14:27.620have locals farmer markets usually have them and they're in abundance of this around this time of
00:14:32.020the year and and um you know i i guess keeping ourselves aligned the reason why we're doing this
00:14:40.580is to keep our weird aligned with the gods so taking that moment that time of thanking whether
00:14:47.060it's even even at the end of the day it is is understanding and recognizing that things are
00:14:52.180shifting the tide is turned and we should give thanks to that um ostara is one of the goddesses
00:15:01.220that isn't you know uh very well known in the sense that there wasn't a lot written down
00:15:08.660um and there's a lot of speculation a lot of uh people try to christians try to connect her to um
00:15:14.820ishtar and and things of that nature um and i know that they kind of get that from the
00:15:20.420perhaps the roman empire soaking up a lot of that um you know they but we can see through
00:15:28.940linguistics that that is a very very thin connective tissue um i think most likely
00:15:37.720we can see through germanic traditions that these that she has been with us especially if you follow
00:15:43.640the etymology of her name uh since long before the roman empire so yeah i you know there's so much i
00:15:52.840would say as far as building traditions i mean for us national event you know we do a lot of stuff we
00:15:59.320hold bloat and we you know have lots of games and things but if you're on your own i would say even
00:16:06.360just a a simple hailing of the dawn and holding a bloat that night and if you really want to go
00:16:11.800that extra mile and you know get some special foods or things like that or egg decorations
00:16:18.280you know that that would be great but it's really about understanding that she is
00:16:24.680opening that door and that warmth is finally coming through dellings hall and
00:16:32.200the this is the time to to celebrate the focus that's coming you know that we got goals we need
00:16:38.920things to get done and we have very little time to do it in summer tiding is is when you live
00:16:44.040also true the summer is the time to do things and so you begin to realize how much though the
00:16:50.040winter time is about looking in and how the summer time is about looking forward and upwards about
00:16:55.560everything and austere is the start of that yeah so the uh ladies of the afa have actually all been
00:17:03.640getting together and doing a special craft specifically for the ostara season and doing
00:17:10.160it as a group to help with you know a specific task we won't reveal too much here because this
00:17:15.860is ladies work but right we're doing something special that is egg related and with the ostara
00:17:22.720season so yeah i love the magic that the ladies uh in the afa really do they whether it's like
00:17:30.380the patchwork and the quilting or the baby blankets or the, you know, the blessings of
00:17:35.580the horns, or there's such a nice magic to it, being able to see our ladies placing things
00:19:54.880There are all kinds of pictures of the Alshira Ghodi doing bloat out there, and there's just beautiful glow over the fire, and everybody's standing around by the fire itself.
00:20:08.260um thorshoff i've noticed when i've been at thorshoff they will do some things inside but
00:20:14.940they also take it outside so you know their maple of course is outside but they also charm their
00:20:20.580plow outside and i think at hex and at hex not you guys go outside as well don't you yeah we
00:20:27.340have the ladies um make the sacred fire and the and the children and the men folk will walk through
00:20:32.580the fire or the smoke. Yep. And I have not had the chance to be at Njordshof yet, but I do believe
00:20:40.760those are inside or outside spawn? They have, well, they have an inside one predominant, but
00:20:48.060they also, I know, outside as well. The outside at Njordshof is huge and very, very beautiful out
00:20:58.880there. So I know they're doing both. Yes. And Baldur's Hoff bloats are done inside. All of the
00:21:06.320bloats themselves are done inside. We do have more restrictions than the other Hoffs do on what we
00:21:13.140can do, how we can do it, and when we can do it, you know, to stay in accordance with our conditional
00:21:19.300use permit. So we have found ways to make sure that we are bringing elements of bloats that
00:21:26.580you may be used to seeing outside inside. So for example, we have our beautiful Folk Flame,
00:21:34.060which is smokeless and sootless and absolutely gorgeous. And that is used during bloat.
00:21:42.280We also do a lot of, we take all of our offerings outside. We have a really beautiful god pole that
00:21:48.680Go The Rob Scam came out last year and carved for us from one of the trees that we had to take top
00:21:54.460off. So all of our offerings do go outside. We also do when we give gifts for, I believe it was
00:22:03.660winter nights. We took our gifts outside and hung them on the tree that we take our sprigs from.
00:22:11.180So we do try to go outside and do as much as we can. And of course our maypole is outside and we
00:22:16.440charm the plow outside because our plow at Baldershof is huge. But most predominantly it is
00:22:24.320inside of Baldur's Hoff just because of the different restrictions that we have at that
00:22:27.920Hoff versus the other Hoffs. All right. Yeah, I think it's important that just a side note on
00:22:35.200this one is, you know, adhering to faith, whether you're in an apartment, or in a home, or if you're
00:22:44.720on a farmstead, or if you're in the city, you have to adapt. You know, our folk have been,
00:22:51.600you know migratory at times and could you know build burial sites and mounds and then other i
00:22:57.600mean um sorry they were migratory and and you know used pyre and and wood and and burned the dead and
00:23:04.400then other times they were not they were settled and they could build mounds um you know our folk
00:23:09.600adapted um even like in iceland you know wood was so scarce that they shifted from funerary pyres to
00:23:16.800to burying under stone because again it's about adaptation it's it's uh you know when when
00:23:23.360archaeologists and and scholars look at our faith archaeologically you know they see this kind of
00:23:31.200movement back and forth and i think that people have a tendency to forget that
00:23:35.840uh faith our faith in particular too is very organic to the folk where they're at what they're
00:23:41.760doing what's available to them um because we we bring our gods and our faith to the gods
00:23:49.840with us and so i think it's always been very adaptable so you know when uh people talk about
00:23:56.480the inside and outside like i remember actually just recently someone was saying you know i've
00:24:00.480only held ceremony outside you know why would you hold it indoors the gods are outside well
00:24:06.400the i don't think like you can lock the gods out of your home um the uh the biggest thing i i don't
00:24:15.200mean to to be snarky on that is what i'm just saying is is that you know we have harrows in
00:24:21.120our culture in the afa and in you know in relation to the temples and to the kindreds we have the
00:24:28.720harrow inside uh harrow is what most people would call an altar um and then we have a horg
00:24:37.920h-o-r-g and that that really is it hjorgar is uh is the old norse and it means like the stacking
00:24:44.800of stones or one giant stone outside usually sometimes within a grove area so or in a special
00:24:51.040place so those you know like you said uh odin's half has both but they have a because of the
00:24:57.840weather they have the allowance to go out and really practice at their horg and their horg has
00:25:03.600been long standing um at their temple whereas with baldursof everything has always been on harrow
00:25:10.720you know base and uh at thorsof we have the main harrow to thor but we also have a central harrow
00:25:17.120that we do everything around and oftentimes transfer the mead that we pour from the horn
00:25:22.960we we walk it up to the harrow that thor is uh at and we give it to him and then we
00:25:29.760take a small amount after uh asking for blessing and bring it back down
00:25:34.480so every you know it's i think um there's different adaptations that become the cultural norm in the
00:25:41.120area and i think a lot of people from an internet perspective are looking for like kind of a one
00:25:46.000way or one size fits all um answering we just we're too organic you know it's like uh sometimes
00:25:55.040with norshoff they i don't think they go outside too much uh you know perhaps in the summer at
00:26:00.160least maybe you know not at noon and not at sunset because noon is like deathly hot and
00:26:05.680at sunset you might get carried away by the mosquitoes so so that's one thing that's really
00:26:11.680interesting and special about all of the Hoffs is while there may be an AFA standard for what
00:26:19.700we're doing, they each have their own culture, their own traditions, and their own personality.
00:26:25.640I mean, the Hoffs are known for their personalities and the different things that they come up with.
00:26:29.800So I think that's really interesting. Yeah, that's the beauty of it. It's
00:26:33.520kind of like our own little, I mean, that's what it is. Our districts, our districts have their own
00:26:38.040um traditions and you know colors and banners and it's it's beautiful i think it makes for a
00:26:45.540very large colored palette of of uh festivity and celebration and devotion so yeah
00:26:51.640all right mandy asks spawn why have you concealed from us all that you are actually wrestling
00:27:02.480the big show and there's apparently photographic evidence of this oh there it is you guys are
00:27:11.000guys are ganging up on me look no i can't be the the big show i am i am uh i am you know
00:27:21.520for most people that don't know i'm uh by internet you know joking or whatever i am
00:27:29.680i'm five foot eight i'm not even six foot so i guess i'm a man litter as they like to say
00:27:34.980so i can't be for the big show unless i like wore him like a suit like he was like some sort of like
00:27:41.740power suit i was inside i don't think that would happen unless of course maybe like i'm related
00:27:47.580maybe i mean it can be wit and spawn the medium show right the medium show yes yeah exactly
00:27:56.140condensed package you know he can throw me at people like yeah he's no he's mighty yeah you
00:28:04.960know it's uh i i i knew i knew somehow this was gonna this is gonna get me mandy sent me a text
00:28:14.500and uh and now she got me so when the elshir go there re-watches this after he gets off of his
00:28:21.980plane. It's your choice to leave us unsupervised. Right, right, and he can easily just look over at
00:28:29.580me. All right, next question we've got. Kiev was founded by the Kievan Rus in 882. Are the Kievan
00:28:41.700Rus a gothic folk? No, no, the Kievan Rus are not a gothic folk or guttunish people. No, however,
00:28:49.980they they have found thousands of grave sites um maybe maybe near thousand hundred actually
00:29:00.780don't quote me on it somewhere within the hundreds to perhaps thousands of graves uh of
00:29:05.980the ostrogothic people uh around that area from about 300 to 500. so um which you know as far as
00:29:15.980like archaeologically like buildings and things like that uh most likely their their uh settlements
00:29:22.940have long since dissolved but they have found graves grave goods and other things of the
00:29:28.140gutinish people there uh in such a large amount that the the founding of kiev um as kiev is up to
00:29:41.100to the Kievan Rus, but the actual fact that there was an Ostrogothic or Guthanish settlement there
00:29:47.660has been pretty much confirmed. What it was called or what it was named doesn't seem to be,
00:29:54.880most of the information that we do have about it comes from a scholar named Jordanes,
00:30:02.460or Jordanes, and he doesn't mention if there's a name of it, but he does say that they settle
00:30:08.480in that area. And this is even before they split and turn into the, you know, the Ostrogothic and
00:30:14.840the TheraVingian or TheraVingian Goths. So that's what I'm referring to. I think just for ease of
00:30:22.940the subject, I just said, you know, yeah, they founded the site of Kiev. But yeah, Ian, you are
00:30:29.640correct. I probably shouldn't say that, but I don't know what else to call it because there
00:30:33.500isn't an actual official name so but yeah it's an interesting topic um to look up for sure migration
00:30:41.500period time awesome all right well we're about 30 minutes in i suppose this time get down to
00:30:49.340business we actually have an uler question the folk are going to keep us on tracks fun yep yep
00:30:57.100smacking us into the lane come on medium show back
00:31:03.500All right. Shea asks, have y'all seen the runestone inscription of Ullr on skis that has been correlated to the constellation more well known as Orion?
00:31:14.440in yes um so for the longest time uh there has been first there's the i don't know exactly where
00:31:26.920this came from but frigga's distaffer for orion um uh was kind of i guess accepted i i honestly
00:31:36.920don't know where it came from um but yes the the the connection to both the northern lights and to
00:31:43.960celestial formations that could possibly be related to or orion or to you know uh ullr is it
00:31:52.120as you know this the ski god or in the sky if you will um uh is an interesting one i don't know
00:32:04.360if it's a stretch or not i want i mean obviously we have uh you know uh
00:32:09.640Um, Arundel's toe is, is mentioned as well as Thiazi's eyes.
00:32:16.140There are clear, uh, navigational tools that are mentioned or, or I wouldn't say navigational
00:32:22.760tools, but celestial bodies mentioned throughout, uh, the Adas and throughout our lore.
00:32:29.780So I wouldn't discount it at all, especially considering, um, seafaring people, uh, even,
00:32:37.080even before the viking age like with with the um the guttons traveling down the uh the rivers
00:32:44.400to the black sea and then even crossing over into the aegean and and attacking greece the
00:32:51.820our folk were you know and these germanic folks in in in specifics were seafaring people long
00:32:59.040before the traditional viking age so the usage of stars um is huge it's it's it's i think it's
00:33:07.020massively important, but unfortunately is not well documented. All right. And another Ullr
00:33:16.780question from Sarah. In Grimnismal, when Odin is trapped between two fires, he offers the favors
00:33:24.280of Ullr and all the gods to whomever rescues him. What would Ullr's favors be?
00:34:00.280dichotomy there. And I think in our current state and calendar, we, too, express this relationship
00:34:10.040between Odin and Ullr. As far as one thing I think it's worth noting is in the poems themselves,
00:34:20.620when we talk about whether or not they were kind of expressed from the poet or the person that was
00:34:28.620compiling the poem at the time, coming from a story, may have interjected certain things,
00:34:36.200especially at that time, the Nordic understanding, that Nordic period's understanding of the
00:34:41.620significance of Ullr and of Odin and their dichotomy at that time. Would I say Saxo Grammaticus
00:34:50.020is correct in saying that Odin takes over the kingdom, you know, or I mean, Ullr takes over
00:34:57.840kingdom while odin is away uh and and snorty kind of even makes reference to this in the ingital
00:35:03.440where he says you know that you're there uh and and odin you know they switch um in in leadership
00:35:10.080and then oh then asks to be you know slain with a spear so that he can go to his god again these
00:35:16.560are clearly cultural references to an understanding of like what uh like the the cult of odin at the
00:35:26.080time the the the being uh lanced with the spear possibly even being uh evidence of of an interjection
00:35:33.760of the migrational germanics coming back into ultima thule from the central and southern europe
00:35:41.440uh and they may have brought traditions with them and i think that's kind of reflecting in those
00:35:45.280stories so there's this dichotomy between odin and ullr that seems to be established in the nordic
00:35:50.640period in which they clearly have huge amounts of influence and i think that this part of the poem
00:36:00.080is either lending itself to that or it's making note of the the shifting of power the the the
00:36:07.920duality between them two between the two gods um as it is kind of expressed that like in saxos
00:36:16.080that the power shift shifts to Ullr from Odin and then back. I think that these are all signs of
00:36:26.880a kind of religious culture of that time, just like the Vanik or the kind of more, I would say,
00:36:36.000like boar worship and uh wagon worshiping in in sweden switching over or being interjected to by
00:36:45.920a more odinic cult uh that seems to come from perhaps the you know migration period
00:36:52.880the fodrati were being let loose in rome and so they were probably coming up and there was these
00:36:59.040kind of traditions that ended up being melded together in these stories and so when the poems
00:37:05.040were compiled i've often taken that to show that cultural reference that that odin is is um you
00:37:13.360know beseeching the gifts of of ullr in the sense that the the the the might and the power of ullr
00:37:22.720and odin were seen at that time as very you know almost like equal um again it's the same reason
00:37:31.120is like to why they would they would have images of thor with say a crown on his head and stars is
00:37:37.680that the the uh the cultures and the and the power and the devotion towards the gods that were in
00:37:44.000that place and the the uh the place names to ullr um you know show kind of a heavy devotion
00:37:51.920so i think that this is more of a cultural in injection of that kind of
00:37:58.080relationship in the Nordic period between the presence of the two gods in that. However,
00:38:07.520the glory, the glorious one, you know, Snorty kind of in one breath regulates him to be just the,
00:38:14.240you know, he's the stepson of Thor, he's, you know, he's the ski god, he's the weapon god,
00:38:19.280he's the shield god, the god of, you know, one-on-one combat and of marksmanship with a bow,
00:38:24.880um you know and and it just kind of seems placed out very matter-of-factly and then at the same
00:38:33.980time he he gets his own uh realm ir dollar which means the you the you dales or the you tree y-e-w
00:38:42.220um and that that ups that significance but when you look at place names when you look at
00:38:48.980um the uh the influence like for instance with the um the fins the fins seem to be influenced by
00:38:58.120the nords uh also with you know they have a thunder god that shares a lot of the same
00:39:05.820uh you know imagery so you know are they connected well yes we can surmise that they
00:39:11.920are connected just like perun is connected as well but there seems to be this interlacing but
00:39:16.840there is also some interlacing with the Finns. And Ullr, they have a god named Tupio, I believe,
00:39:25.520is the hunter god, and shares a lot of the same equilibrium there. And that would make sense in
00:39:32.500the high, high north. This dichotomy between Odin and Ullr is an interesting one. Because again,
00:39:44.740And Snorty doesn't place it very much, like, say, in the Gilfaginning, as being a huge amount of gravity there.
00:39:51.900But yet, here, you know, in Grimnismal, he speaks about Ullr and the gods.
00:39:58.260And this happens, too, where the gods are, where a singular god is focused on in the poem, and then the rest of the gods are mentioned.
00:40:06.580Frey, it happens with Frey a lot, too.
00:40:08.780Again, showing a huge amount of power and worship, I would say, in that time.
00:40:13.760uh you know where they would say like frey is you know the best of the ouse um or of all the gods
00:40:20.800um or best or best ranked or best best known amongst the gods whereas so is balder but um
00:40:29.060in this case like for modern asatru and in particular when we're talking about like
00:40:35.860winter finding and the wild hunt that this dichotomy takes place when we talk about ullr
00:40:42.580taking precedence during the winter tidying culturally ular is the god of the hunt and from
00:40:51.060winter finding which is about the end you know it's at the end of september beginning of october
00:40:57.780depending on where it lands uh is kind of the starting of a lot of folks hunting season so the
00:41:05.220the idea of uller taking precedence while olvin goes on the wild hunt is reflected in our culture
00:41:13.940today in which you know the wild hunt is seen as a a natural force some people see it happening
00:41:20.420all year around but again this is mythic language of understanding this this cultural importance of
00:41:27.300the the two olvin goes on the wild hunt uller takes precedence because his time is to bless
00:41:34.980the folk for hunting and you know othen is seen as a force to be weary of during that time and
00:41:41.460ullr is the one that we pray to for a good hunt so there's this dichotomy switch between the two
00:41:48.260that happens that i think still exists today but was much more prevalent in the nordic period as
00:41:54.900far as those gifts i would say you know the strength of the of again being unfettered which
00:42:02.580again is oftentimes you know denoted to um oh then himself i don't know maybe it's a who you know who
00:42:12.500cuts the barber's hair kind of moment i'm sorry that just hit me because of what you had said
00:42:18.500earlier but but no i mean i think it is an injection of a huge amount of that the importance
00:42:25.540between those two in the nordic period so much so that saxo you know really really his stories
00:42:34.260even though they're heavily uh you know the gods are made human um that that's still worth of
00:42:41.700noting there just like the the the relationship between balder and hodd uh except of course they
00:42:47.140make it a love he makes it a love rivalry um and again you know these stories that he wrote down
00:42:53.940uh you know could be heavily influenced from local stories like in denmark not saying that
00:42:59.380he just completely made it up but most certainly had a you know an incentive to change things
00:43:05.060because he was uh not a fan of the elder faith um but i think it's a reflection of that as well
00:43:11.460very well box asks us what is a staller a staller yeah uh s-t-a-l-l-i-r is usually a staller
00:43:26.900a staller is a stall it's uh it's a it's an altar it's another name for an altar
00:43:31.780um i think or it's it's another name for a sectioned part of the house with a specific use
00:43:36.740that's another thing worth noting is i think that people jumped on it because it's an icelandic
00:43:42.240name word thing that but you know in a in a in an essence it's in the houses they had
00:43:49.880sectioned off areas for specific things and one that would be set off for devotionals but uh you
00:43:57.920know there's mentions of to the the pillars of the high seat you know are on the actual are are
00:44:03.240are actually dedicated to thor or to frey uh um you know so throughout the house there may have
00:44:09.480been other devotional like items but the staler is just another name for like an altar or a specific
00:44:17.400area perhaps it's not a flat table maybe it's just a a mantle or a shelf or something like that a
00:44:24.040staller could could very well be utilized as a word but i think culturally using the word harrow
00:44:34.280uh like a just a a hollowed table or a hollowed flat space in the house is is more is used more
00:44:42.040popularly but staller could easily be used as well staller is also somebody who um stalls while
00:44:51.560we're waiting for questions to come in from the chat well yeah i mean uh so uh also just you know
00:45:02.520uh to carry on more about ullr ullr's name ullr's name is a is again is very mysterious
00:45:11.480the relationship between ullr and odin is just one of the many mysteries that ullr has
00:45:16.040Ullr is, his name means, or, you know, is etymologically considered to be linked towards glory, because there are other Germanic languages that have words very, very similar, and it's been traced back to Wulther, or Wultheraz, which means glorious.
00:45:34.760Um, the oldest inscription we have is on a scabbard of, um, it says it's, it's Wulther, Wulthera's servant. And so there's two theories behind this. The scabbard is referring to the sword and that the owner of the sword's name was Wultheras, which doesn't demean it less.
00:45:54.460It could be a derivative of Ullr's name, as if when people would name themselves Thorstein or Thorbjörn or Freydis, they're kind of leaning on the name of the god in their own name, or their parents did, I should say.
00:46:17.600So if the owner of the scabbard's name was like Wulthris, it could, you know, denote that his name means like, you know, in the glory of or the glorious one, but kind of not saying that that's specifically Ullr or Ullr's name.
00:46:34.360so that's the one theory is that it's the owner the other theory is is that the sword was dedicated
00:46:41.100to ullr as a servant uh which would then also have a possibility because uh snorty mentions
00:46:51.460ullr as being uh one to call upon in single combat and single combat you know in their
00:46:58.280what they're referring to is is you know like dueling and and you know or or one-on-one
00:47:07.440fighting because not all fights were done you know in battles and in war and i think that you
00:47:13.480know the gods that are connected to the to mass battles like like olden and and teed and and such
00:47:20.240are are important but they're talking about skirmish they're talking about disputes they're
00:47:26.120talking about one-on-one fighting and uller is is mentioned as to to be well to be prayed to for
00:47:32.440those things a lot of modern um also true see uller as again like um survival hunting intermixed
00:47:42.620with self-defense so there's a lot of self-defense aspects that have come in during winter finding a
00:47:48.420lot of folks bring in their uh rifles and things or bows for hunting for the season and to be
00:47:55.400blessed uh as the bloat is held towards ullr or and ullr isn't always the the main focus of winter
00:48:01.560finding winter finding could be dedicated to you know to even could be dedicated to any of the gods
00:48:07.880really but ullr does have a huge precedence in certain areas especially when that hunting season
00:48:12.600is kind of right aligned with it and so rifles will be uh you know brought i think that a lot
00:48:20.280of folks don't take pictures of the rifles because it's not about uh you know like that that and the
00:48:27.080whole presence of the internet can just be taken in very wrong context so you know the blessings
00:48:33.720of the rifles the blessings of the bows are done and sometimes personal self-defense weapons are
00:48:39.000also blessed um for by by the gothar that are present there in reference to uller so i think
00:48:47.720that's worth noting that especially in a modern sense that uller is connected to both hunting and
00:48:54.120personal self-defense um and so the sword being named after him might be just as much equally a
00:49:01.960servant of the glorious one that answers a couple questions that we had you know if they were
00:49:08.600associated with hunting anything else and you and uh can he be associated with survival or field
00:49:15.160craft you kind of answered yes yes absolutely now so when we're talking personally for me
00:49:21.400yes very very much so i i um i often call ruler you know the shade between the trees or the shade
00:49:28.840between the bows uh he's the you know the ghost treader the the one the silent walker the one who
00:49:35.960you know whispers between the trees um again the enigmatic sense of him and his placement
00:49:44.200within hunting and self-defense survival um yes he would be the one to hold up you know honor to
00:49:51.560um 100 um i think it's also you know uller from a sense of what if you're not into survival what if
00:50:00.680you're not into hunting uller is also very much i think a a good source to to devote your piety
00:50:11.160towards if you're trying to focus on the attainment of something the attainment of a goal i'm not
00:50:17.480saying that by no but actually quite the opposite you will not receive like some sort of gift like
00:50:26.440a it's not when you when you give devotion to uler it's about focusing the mind and i think finding
00:50:34.680the pathway putting the effort in and there is a certain level of you have to bring the skill to
00:50:40.680of the table it's more or less about honing it's about twisting the bowstring it's about preparing
00:50:46.600you know the the ski it's about um or the snowshoe or you know it's it's a lot about what you bring
00:50:53.480to the table and i think uller is more about uh singular focus and determination towards a goal
00:51:02.520sorry if the uh the clock is too loud there it just marks off the hours for us fun oh yeah
00:51:11.680Allie asks, I am an inside person during the winter.
00:51:32.640And we always had them make snowballs and color them with food coloring and say their
00:51:39.020prayer to uler and put them in a dish and let them melt on the altar we used to do that as well
00:51:43.960any ideas fun yeah well i wanted to bring up what you just said uh i don't know if a lot of people
00:51:49.780are familiar with uler fest and what why uh that why you said snowflakes and snow so um uler fest
00:51:58.480takes place in colorado i believe it's colorado i'm almost certain it's colorado and it's a it's
00:52:04.620a uh it's a skiing festival and um i really i think that even though it's secular and you know
00:52:13.780people dress up they wear you know like goofy helmets or you know and things like that um
00:52:18.160it's worth noting that the gods do not just exist in the adas the god of the hunt the god of
00:52:27.760combat self-defense uh the the um he is a god that's been with us even before the nordic period
00:52:36.640obviously so and the manifestation of the gods um and our understanding of where they are we see the
00:52:44.240the the the vestiges of our gods in the stories as clear glimpses through the fog
00:52:53.120uh a place for our culture and our language and our folk to bridge with our ancestors an
00:52:59.440understanding of that divine being but that divine being has been before the nordic period
00:53:07.280and the name may be like wolf draws or you know it's it the etymology denotes that there is a past
00:53:14.320that the the name uller in the nordic sense has contexted from so uller has been with us before
00:53:22.640the nordic period and still continues to manifest within the folk even past or you know past the
00:53:29.520nordic period even into the christian age uh elsewhere ago these often said you know even
00:53:34.080without the aid as the gods would manifest themselves amongst the folk because the gods
00:53:37.760and the folk are connected so um you know when you and i i don't mean to run off into a tangent
00:53:46.160about that but the the fact that the manifestation of uller and the uh the festival and its its
00:53:53.920connection um to skiing and of course when you go and look it up on the website you know they say
00:54:00.800ular um you know a god of winter um and again even though it would be mistaken to uh say you know
00:54:10.160like he is like the god of winter he is a god he is the god of winter his time is of winter his time
00:54:20.000is at that time of the hunt so yeah ice snow skiing hunting all of those imagery and that's
00:54:27.200why i think uh and i'm speaking to the audience here about this one when you when you talk about
00:54:31.040the snowflakes when you talk about the the the snowball what you're referring to is his time
00:54:38.320owen is on the wild hunt and uller is in presidence of this moment and it's a time in
00:54:44.720which our ancestors would hunt for meat to supplement the the herd that was called and
00:54:49.760the the smoked meat from the cattle or the pork or the lamb they would go and supplement the last
00:54:56.720little bit of hunting before they had to settle in for the you know the long month two months
00:55:03.920three months of winter from you know almost from just after yule till about now or maybe even into
00:55:11.440april uh where they wouldn't be able to you know really get a lot of nutrients so honoring uller
00:55:18.560at that time is huge so yes winter time that's why snow skis um the snowshoe are all kind of
00:55:28.560correlated to uler so yeah uh you know for the children snow snowflakes um i would even say you
00:55:38.080know snowshoes uh as symbols of of um you know devotion um you know making like little craft uh
00:55:47.600snowshoes, um, and things like that can be done as kind of gifts and offerings of that time.
00:55:54.740But if you're indoors, um, you know, one thing that you could do is look around and see if there's
00:56:01.320any, uh, yew trees in your area. Some people, there is an American yew tree. There is an English
00:56:06.580yew tree. Um, you know, uh, the, I would not recommend like making any incense or anything
00:56:13.520out of the out of the the dried um leaves of the yew tree because it is a very kind of it's it's a
00:56:21.120toxic uh tree but creating a a wreath maybe burning it outside you know afterwards blessing
00:56:29.040blessing the wreath or blessing a sprig and dedicating it to to uller or are you know and
00:56:34.800giving gifts of whatever you have like it could be you know whatever you're willing to give uh
00:56:39.200some people give flowers because let's say you're you're indoors but you're in a fairly
00:56:45.440cosmic you know cosmopolitan place uh you know meat fruits anything you're willing to to buy
00:56:54.240make or or give the act of giving and sacrificing with a sprig of you uh out and then you know
00:57:02.080buried or burned uh after a bloat like that maybe making a protective um
00:57:10.720amulet or some you know asking uh ullr to protect the the land in the area around you or aid you
00:57:17.120show you the the best way to attain goals um all of those things in honor to ullr are are equally
00:57:23.760as viable as somebody maybe going out and living you know off the land or going hunting for you
00:57:30.560know days on end would have a great need to pray to him as well um but i think ullr can be prayed
00:57:37.280to by men and women both out in the field and in the home especially around winter time around
00:57:46.320winter finding and on up into you uh yule itself i actually have a the the uh odin's odin's day is
00:57:56.160uh day and a half or a day and a half before uller's it's the it's the next day so olden
00:58:02.880comes back from the wild hunts and uller's night is when he steps down and that's when i clean my
00:58:09.280hunting rifle and i clean my my weapons and i taught my son how to like hone uh a knife and
00:58:15.120you know this year coming up i'm gonna teach my daughter how to sharpen a knife and and clean and
00:58:20.320and be safe gun safety and things like that so um there are a lot of ways you can you can
00:58:26.960practice your devotion to uh cooler go get a personal uh you know conceal weapons permit
00:58:34.640go take a class and do it and set yourself with you know at present yourself to uler and say i'm
00:58:41.360going to go do this i'm going to go do this i'm going to go attain this goal i am going to get a
00:58:46.720license uh you know legally and learn how to defend myself and then go and do it and then when
00:58:55.120you're done boast to uller hold another blow to uller and say i did it this is what i did i thank
00:59:01.440you uh you know whether if you helped me or you didn't either way you were the focus point i
00:59:07.200needed this is what i did and i give thanks to you and something as simple as that could be a
00:59:12.880great and powerful devotional act to Hula. Awesome. We do have a few donations. The first
00:59:22.420couple that we had came from Ronald Blake. Thank you very much, sir. Donated to Go the Odin's
00:59:30.000fundraiser, if we can get a link for that put up. Also donated $100, $105 to Nurtoth. Thank you
00:59:41.160very much, sir. I appreciate that. That is from Ronald. Thank you very much. We also got a
00:59:49.020donation from Don Ricardo. $20. Thank you very much, sir. Very much appreciated. Very, very much.
00:59:57.220And we also got another donation, $10 Canadian from Lawrence. It says, good evening, Brandy and
01:00:05.340Svan. No question tonight. Just wanted to say great stream. Much love and appreciation to you
01:00:10.780and all the folk thank you very much thank you from our brethren of the great white north
01:00:17.420canadians they should every every episode yeah it's beautiful thank you it is very much
01:00:24.540appreciated thank you very much for the support all right so we've got another question here from
01:00:32.140josh hello go with our if it has not been if it has not been yet could i ask about any deeper
01:00:40.540connection ruler might have to winter sports as we often see him depicted on skier skate
01:00:46.460you would did go into that a little bit with the winter sports yeah a little bit uh you know and
01:00:51.020again the winter olympics are are highly influenced by the scandinavian countries when we talk about
01:00:56.300um you know the the uh cross-country skiing and uh skiing and shooting again that's that's pretty
01:01:05.740much you know the that is nordic culture in the hunting sense it has uller in manifestation all
01:01:15.180over the fact that you know you have kind of like i mean these rifles are insanely like high
01:01:21.580technology now but um you know the the um they're they're crossing huge tracks of land and taking
01:01:29.980shots at these ranges and then slinging right back up and crossing that that you know the
01:01:35.660treks of land again and anybody who's ever you know done huge cross-country movements and then
01:01:40.860had to like suddenly shoot and i know i have it's it's hard to to breath control there's a lot of
01:01:48.140discipline and focus involved with stamina and i think there there is no other sport that exemplifies
01:01:54.780uller than that and you know as far as overall winter you know winter sports were so important
01:02:04.060i think to the nordic teutonic folk when it came to ice skates and um to skiing and things like
01:02:12.140that i mean there's there's even a mention of uller crossing the ocean on a on a bone
01:02:18.700and that bone is kind of seen possibly to reference a skate uh because skates were back then made out
01:02:25.500of bone but um and that he was a powerful wizard but saxo had a tendency to to do that and that
01:02:32.140was part of that dichotomy is that saxogrammaticus made ullr a super powerful you know wizard and so
01:02:39.980was odin and they you know they had this polarity and again i think that is an injection of the time
01:02:48.780showing that that that significance between them um but you know uh winter you know sports or what
01:02:59.900have you yeah i mean hockey maybe i don't know i'm i'm a hockey fan we got a we got a team here
01:03:07.420it's one of my you know the admirals uh the norfolk admirals are are huge uh as far as you know
01:03:15.740lower leagued hockey they're not they're not major but um huge huge factor so perhaps even
01:03:24.620again highly combative sport lots of personal one-on-one fighting there um one of the last
01:03:31.660you know sports where that's you know not entirely frowned upon um that's what we paid a ticket for
01:03:40.220well and i mean these these these guys on the ice are larger than life i mean
01:03:45.660my first my first admirals game i ever went to just to see the entire bench of the admirals
01:03:52.940empty out on the jersey uh i think the jersey sharks they um i mean the entire bench the refs
01:04:00.380were they had to like randomly pick people to throw in the penalty box because everyone was
01:04:05.520at fault there was spots of blood on the ice within the first 15 minutes of the game it was
01:04:10.840amazing i suddenly realized like wow i mean these guys are uh just they're larger than life um being
01:04:19.540a young man and seeing that seeing these tough guys go at it like i was just like wow i would
01:04:25.460i want to be like these guys like graceful but like just off for the nail was that on skates i
01:04:33.780mean i can skate but i don't know if i can multitask like yeah keeping keeping upright
01:04:42.820while getting you know stick while skating not getting hit in the face with a puck and
01:04:48.340punching somebody in the face that is the opinion multitasking right that's glorious and i think too
01:04:54.580that you know uller's name means glory that i think if there's anything worth noting is persistence
01:05:00.900stamina focus determination all of these tenants that uller is clearly connected to lead towards
01:05:09.140glory uh leads lead towards being and living a glorious existence um i think you know it's it's
01:05:18.260worth noting that i think there is a connection a manifestation ular has just like as to the the
01:05:25.940ecstaticism of of odin in the fury of both poetry and war and i think a lot of people outside of
01:05:33.140our our folk don't get that the idea of a god of poetry and war and death and battle but for us it
01:05:43.060it's not so alien it's the same with uller uller is you know that that that cross between um just
01:05:51.700pure tenacity uh and and and you know determination to cross the mountain just because the mountain's
01:06:00.260there not not because you need to not because there's a specific reason it's because there
01:06:06.660you know it's it's that um it's that wolverine of the north attitude um again i i've always
01:06:14.660associated the wolverine animal to um uller i i know a lot of people were talking about like with
01:06:21.620north's um mural with skadi and the ibexes um it's not that i'm a skewing i would say conventional
01:06:31.700like people have uh connected skadi to wolves and i'm not askewing that but i um feel i think that
01:06:40.820or just try to see the the gods in a mythic way that because i think that's the way our ancestors
01:06:46.260kind of related to the gods um you know to see uh an animal like obviously we connect ravens and
01:06:53.700things to oven so i saw the ibex the alpen ibex the mountains the wind that the animal that resists
01:07:00.820against getting blown off the cliff you know it's just such a majestic animal and much to that uh
01:07:07.380same sense anybody who's familiar with like wolverines uh know that they kind of exemplify
01:07:13.940the characteristics of uller there um you know there's some great documentaries out there the
01:07:19.940ghost of the north uh the wolverine there is a couple of books about the wolverines in yellowstone
01:07:25.760and the are uh in the grand teton mountains in america the return of um if anybody's familiar
01:07:32.680with banff he's he was a wolverine that was studied for many many years and again that's
01:07:39.000i got that reference he climbed the mountain because it was there like that is the essence
01:07:47.080of uller as well sheer tenacity and the drive to survive no matter what and i think that's
01:07:55.480been with us longer than than just strictly the nordic period i mean if you think about like the
01:08:00.680otzi man in uh in the alps you know he's carrying a bow and he's trekking up these long you know
01:08:07.240he's been frozen over um that determination that drive of the of the the huntsman the man out uh
01:08:16.440the shadow out there you know trying to get food and survive or you know track the the unknown
01:08:23.800paths that's uller for sure awesome all right we do have a question from gene i have a question
01:08:35.160is the wild hunt also relevant to other people like the slavic or the celtic groups
01:08:41.320so most sir i don't know about the sloths but i do know about the the gulls i like to say the
01:08:46.280gulls instead of the celts because i celtic is i i love the word celtic i just like to bring it up
01:08:52.520as a point that the word is a greek word which means the people with pants and the kel toy but
01:09:00.840it's worth noting that pants were extremely hard to make back then so it was considered an
01:09:06.280achievement and the the mediterraneans that were running into the keltoi other people with pants
01:09:11.640they didn't have pants they they usually wore like long frock tunic like things um and of course the
01:09:18.760plaid or the the um the print of threading plaid was associated with them as well um but they speak
01:09:27.080gaelic so they are the gauls but it's been i i won't put it into the words of the celtic people
01:09:34.120because they have accepted this term uh to be awesome and so that they run with it but i like
01:09:39.240to bring it up too they are the goals as far as the goals go yes yes there is connections to the
01:09:45.400wild hunt um is it physically written down uh as to my knowledge no but there's references in
01:09:54.520relation to uh imagery of the of like god of the hunts and in particular there's uh references on
01:10:02.040the mainland and on the isles uh but mainly on them in the mainland in france or in the gaulish
01:10:08.040lands of uh cerninus or kerninus and he is seen with antlers now what you know i and obviously
01:10:17.240most people take as perhaps animalism or hunting or whatever but it is worth noting that on the
01:10:24.120isles um after christianity has firmly placed itself there is the story of hern the hunter
01:10:32.840in england that's a very interesting cool story and i think we can see that there's this
01:10:40.840convexing there uh and hern is seen with having antler horns as well um but yes the the hunt
01:10:48.920uh the wild hunt i think survives anywhere where there is the teutonic people and the gaulish
01:10:55.560people have kind of intermixed and the idea of the wild hunt has always uh you know whether it's
01:11:01.480seen as the wild hunt is somehow connected to the sealy court and and and the uh the you know
01:11:09.400the natural and somewhat chaotic beings in the gaulish faith uh whether they might be considered
01:11:15.640like fairy or fae or whatever the the title might be uh where the wild hunt is kind of connected to
01:11:21.660that time this this assurgence of of them coming out and on on the teutonic side the idea of the
01:11:28.360hunts huntsmen riding out during that time and that manifested in a tradition of hunting the
01:11:34.100boar around the yule tide so both have kind of carried it and i would say it's just it's too
01:11:42.480convoluted to figure out if it was from one to the other if they both had it and just they
01:11:48.720ended up marrying together as they existed together or you know if one influenced the
01:11:56.320other it's too hard to say but yes there's there's a lot of correlations with uh the huntsman and the
01:12:02.360wolf pack or the hunting of wolves with hounds uh sorry not the wolf pack but the the hunting of
01:12:07.700wolves, hound and dog-like references to Othyn and the cults of Othyn and to the hunter gods
01:12:20.240of the Celtic people in relation to the hounds that hunt. So there's a lot of correlation between
01:12:28.200those two. They're just not expressly written, I think, amongst the Gallic people. They're referenced,
01:12:33.240i don't know it's like orbitally around the act of hunting whether it's a hero or um you know a a
01:12:44.120a post-christian uh myth or legendary figure because like herm the hunter has like a he seems
01:12:52.600to have both gaulish and germanic traits that have survived past the conversion of christianity so
01:13:03.240Awesome. Corey's got a couple of questions for us here. Can you please give me the basics? Who is Uller? What is his backstory? What's he best known for? And what is your favorite Uller story? So we've answered a few of that already, Svon, but you want to give us just a little bit of backstory on that?
01:13:22.420yeah cooler is the glorious one his name means the glorious one or the one of glory he's prayed
01:13:28.900to for hunting self-determination survival and self-defense um he is listed by snorri as being
01:13:37.140the son of sif the the wife of thor the goddess that is she's often associated with families
01:13:46.420clans and uh you know farmsteads uh and also by proxy perhaps groves and wheat or groves and rye
01:13:55.940and um uh he is he mentions that he is the son of sif and is the stepson of thor which is an
01:14:06.740interesting thing again we we've had classes about the familial ties between the gods presented by
01:14:13.620snorty whether you know uh some of them seem to be yes very much built on previous factual
01:14:22.420understandings of the gods you know coming together and giving forth a new divine entity
01:14:29.860that has dominion in in the middle world um and then others seem to be again cultural context as
01:14:38.020well um and that like again that the next class will be bringing that up or the next um uh victory
01:14:47.300never sleeps we'll be bringing that up with for seti about how he was honored amongst the frisians
01:14:52.100but is clearly you know familially based amongst the nords by snorty and so you know what is that
01:14:59.380contextual by culture or is that legitimate um in in regards to divinity so he's mentioned as being
01:15:06.900the stepson of thor that is just an interesting thing in and of itself there um uh he is given
01:15:14.500his own realm called ear dollar y r and that y has a dash over it and that that's usually like
01:15:20.900the double e sound so it's ear which is the word for a u tree in old norse so the u dales
01:15:27.780er dollar and um that realm is again by its name a coniferous forest is the uh
01:15:39.380the i guess the overall picture being painted in that name um but given a realm nonetheless is huge
01:15:48.420and um or or not given a realm but connected to a realm or an understanding of a realm
01:15:56.340well and and i think again that's talking about dominion uh that our ancestors uh snorty was
01:16:02.340saying you know he has a realm called the udales but i think that has a deeper meaning that talking
01:16:06.500about the presidence of dominion and where they where the gods have power in the material world
01:16:13.140um and my favorite uller story and that's kind of funny because i don't particularly like
01:16:20.740sacro saxo grammaticus is uh i don't like anything that he's done and alice here please forgive me
01:16:28.580because he alice and i have talked much about this and about saxo's accounts and how it is useful
01:16:36.660and i think it is important especially in reference to balder because i think snorty
01:16:40.980makes balder very christ-like and that and and saxo does not and it's interesting because saxo
01:16:48.660was a devout christian and i think he took it as a point to make sure that no one kind of interceded
01:16:55.860on his religion whereas i think snorri on the other hand might not have been super devout as a
01:17:00.820christian but was utilizing that as a point to make sure that icelandic people kept these stories
01:17:07.700or perhaps by that point had a reference a correlation of understanding because they were
01:17:13.780you know thoroughly christian by that time um so i don't really like saxo's uh you know
01:17:23.460story of of uh uller which leaves us with really no story after that um however uh because of the
01:17:33.300association with hern the hunter i really like hern the hunter even though there's a lot of
01:17:39.220of christian stuff in that legend where hearn is a is a cursed hunter he's a cursed man uh he makes
01:17:45.320a deal with the devil on the crossroads and again this is a gaul that's very much a gaulish
01:17:50.000tradition of the idea of going to uh you know a sacred spot in between a liminal space and
01:17:55.820kind of making a deal with a spirit or uh you know an entity or something of ill rebuke to gain power
01:18:02.520or or to you know harry the forest uh you know in revenge against a king or a lord or somebody
01:18:11.080you know whether you know that kind of manifests into her and the hunter or into like robin the
01:18:15.560hood uh or what have you um yeah i i don't know there's again outside of that there isn't much
01:18:23.960of a story so um but again i i really have taken like i i committed to uh survival in the marine
01:18:33.880corps i was trained in uh jungle warfare training specifically and so i've been through some very
01:18:40.920very hard times where it was living like living in a well in an okinawan in a japanese island and in
01:18:49.800the dense like mountains of the philippines and just eating whatever we could catch so
01:18:56.920my devotion towards ular is based more on experience or or at least like especially fear
01:19:04.440fear of of going hungry and um uh or you know uh just making the wrong step or doing something so
01:19:14.920maintaining focus for days on end even though your dog tired and you have very little intake
01:19:19.960of food i have found um that that kind of tenacity that spirit and you know like what would
01:19:28.280again living for the glory of the gods you live morally to be accepted by your ancestors when you
01:19:34.200die but you live in the now to be noticed by the gods in glory and a lot of that involves
01:19:40.360you know what would they think of me if i just gave up now
01:19:44.920That's a lot of the devotion there. I think I get from Uller is I have a deep love and respect for him in my religious beliefs.
01:19:56.960And they don't come from that, from any of the stories, though, because, again, the one story that we have, I don't like.
01:20:06.160Fair enough. That's an honest answer. Honest. Honesty is a virtue, right?
01:20:14.920All right. The Wolf Throne asks, will there be Hoffs dedicated to our goddesses after the Hoffs with the 12 Aesir are finished?
01:20:22.920of course i know i uh i i would think yes but again logistics is a thing not i mean if the
01:20:34.360glory of the gods both the house and the our senior are given to us in our drive forward to
01:20:42.200attain the temples then yes but i'm not going to speak for the gods and it can only be based off
01:20:48.420whether or not we show glory to them and attain but as far as like from the church's perspective
01:20:54.500i don't see there's absolutely no reason why we wouldn't it's just about organizing and how we
01:21:00.580would go about doing that there's there's debate on that with inside the house about how we would
01:21:06.100do that if there's would there be a temple to frigga alone would it be a temple to every one
01:21:13.540of the aus senior would it be a temple to frigga and the maidens of fence all or would it be you
01:21:19.140know there's there's some logistics that need to be worked out but i from my end and i i'm not
01:21:24.420speaking for you witten brandy but from my end i would see no reason why we wouldn't be driving for
01:21:30.020that once we attained the 12 um house we would then move to the au senior um but that's yeah
01:21:40.340there's a lot in play to that question. I have a big hope for the future up in the Baldur's Hoff
01:21:47.040area. A hope, mind you, a hope is that we have a Baldur's Hoff. And people have to travel a long
01:21:55.720ways to get to Baldur's Hoff sometimes. It's not unusual for a membership to drive anywhere from
01:22:01.600one to nine hours to worship in the Temple of Baldur. And, you know, a lot of the folk around
01:22:08.800here have been talking about, wouldn't it be great if we had our own big house, right? So I would
01:22:15.160love to have a Baldur's Hoff and a Nana's house. I would love to see that at Baldur's Hoff.
01:22:22.840Now that's a long time down the road. I mean, we still got to get the floor finished and
01:22:27.620the steeple resealed and our awesome windows that we want to put in. This is a long ways
01:22:33.320down the road but wouldn't that be nice to see i just we just got uh confirmation there else here
01:22:39.240ago these alisari has entered the chat no we are yes we will we will have hoffs to to freak and to
01:22:48.680freya certainly yes so there is at least that uh 100 confirmation there uh that we are driving for
01:22:57.800for that first and foremost but after that and what that could be like again a home uh you know
01:23:04.720would that i guess what what do the christians call it when um there's a house near near or
01:23:09.480connected to the church a parsonage parsonage yeah yeah but like but like not i'm not saying
01:23:15.040that we would have a parsonage but a home or uh you know i'd even suggested possibly considering
01:23:20.420some groves or groves maybe uh to some of the al-senior who are more on the uh connected to
01:23:29.460uh nature you know maybe temples to frig and and freya and to the maidens of fensaler but perhaps
01:23:37.860groves to idon or to sif or you know to uh gather or grither or render or you know any of the other
01:23:48.340our senior that perhaps you know are connected more to the earth and to uh elemental primordial
01:23:58.180stewardship if you will right but you know how we get there's fun yes by paying off new york's
01:24:04.980half right exactly and it blows my mind because a lot of people think like uh yes and we are
01:24:14.900we are a mighty mighty force we are condensed but we are you know again it's it's the dedication of
01:24:22.740those folks including ourselves on hoftoller i'm on hoftoller you know it's like a lot of people
01:24:27.220don't realize that that even the clergy you know uh are putting in time money and paying hoftoller
01:24:34.500or you know paying percentage uh either yearly monthly or or what have you i'm annual um
01:24:40.500um are are paying in as well towards the glory of getting to phrase off getting to tears off
01:24:49.620and then moving you know forward and we've done so much and yet you know we're just we're like this
01:24:56.100powerhouse of of just condensed folk and we need to bring people home that's another big thing I'm
01:25:03.300I know a lot of folks talk about like proselytizing, if you will, about faith and religion and how that can leave a bad taste in people's mouth when it comes to certain things.
01:25:45.160I think that that's a crucial thing that we need to do.
01:25:47.480And we've had so much luck and success and blessings from the gods on all of our people that have come together.
01:25:55.560and i'm just and we're working class folks that are getting together and really trying hard
01:26:00.120to build forward and upwards and and and make a good name for ourselves despite all the vitriol
01:26:06.680you can see on the internet you know tangibly seeing the children playing you know with the
01:26:12.280eggs and seeing that the hoffs and seeing them getting fixed and changing before our eyes and
01:26:19.160it's beautiful but it we have to call people home we have to bring our folk back and we have to
01:26:26.200we're not going to get there unless we start you know living our lives and telling folks like
01:26:33.160i'm out of truth this is why i act this way this is why i talk this way this is why i i hold these
01:26:38.200virtues to guide me through my life and um if you're interested you should you know look here
01:26:45.240and then and come down and see us at the temple see us at the hof you know tell them what a hof
01:26:50.040is you know that we we say church but we also say hof and you know because it makes it easier for
01:26:56.680people to understand when they hear church tell them what a hof is you know tell them about how
01:27:01.080like it's existing in our language it's you know most people would especially up in like in the
01:27:07.560north too you say like hofmeister and suddenly like yeah i know what that means oh wait a minute
01:27:12.280yeah you guys go to a hoff wow that's amazing and you know they understand that it's
01:27:18.920we're not we haven't been separated we've just been
01:27:23.560obfuscated from it thank you so nick's got all of the websites down here on the bottom if you
01:27:32.360visit those websites you're going to notice that there's been a lot of updates and upgrades and
01:27:38.120all kinds of interesting things going on so visit all of those hoff websites especially on the
01:27:43.720calendar section or the event section find out what is going on near and around you in that area
01:27:50.840there's all there's something going on every single weekend in the afa every weekend so click
01:27:56.760on those websites find out what's going on around you i love see i love seeing those i love seeing
01:28:03.560the colors i love seeing the banners of of our and the and the uh the kinfilkia animals of our
01:28:10.200of our folk um up there i think a lot of people that might not know you know yeah we uh we celebrate
01:28:19.240house true as a living religion to today so like the the shields that we have here these the badge
01:28:24.760marks are uh you know they're steeped in tradition both in heraldry and even in american tradition
01:28:31.080that you know this symbol of the of the badge um and these animals represent so much and the colors
01:28:37.800represent so much of the folks connected to these temples this is our organic culture before your
01:28:43.320eyes we're not mimicking anything we're we are we are placing honor in in the tradition by the
01:28:51.080shapes of the badges but they're uniquely our own uh from slepnir at odenshof the very beginning to
01:28:58.840the bear and the wolf and the marlin and it's gonna and hopefully soon the stag
01:29:06.440that's awesome i love this it's on its way it's only it is it is 102 dollars per member away
01:29:13.800that is how quickly we can make that happen yeah it's so crazy too when you hear it in those small
01:29:19.560that small incremental number is it is it's it's that's attainable shows you how real it can be
01:29:28.200yes yes the elshir goli has a question uh-oh medium show can you please talk to talk about
01:29:38.200uhler's magic bone i did already kind of made reference to that about about the skate about
01:29:44.520the bone in which the spells were cast upon to go across the sea um yes uh again the the bone the
01:29:54.920the way uh the the bone itself is it's not quite referenced as a ski or a skate but i i have always
01:30:01.080taken it to be in reference to or poetically referenced to as you know a skate because they
01:30:07.480made their skates out of bones they did not make skis out of bones they made them out of uh out of
01:30:13.240well you would actually um and was it was a prized for its flexibility um as well as for bows but um
01:30:21.880Again, I think the cultural context to that is the ski, but Saxo again making Ullr some super wizard who, you know, kind of silver surfers across the ocean.
01:31:18.360fix or it didn't happen right all right we got a question from he asked what was religion like
01:31:33.120in the nordic bronze age so uh john this is a this is a great question i don't know if
01:31:41.120If it could be answered quickly, I mean, the Bronze Age, think about how much archaeological evidence of religious practice in Sweden, Denmark, which by Bronze Age, the Danes wouldn't even have established in Denmark.
01:32:00.940and that it was the peninsula itself was you know again by other people um you know but bronze age
01:32:11.180worship i think really really sticks out in the nordic period from a couple of different things
01:32:17.900one we talk about sweden sweden's a huge one because so much of it had survived the stone
01:32:23.180carvings, a lot of the iconography of the union between a man and a woman or a man-like figure
01:32:31.700and a woman-like figure, because they could be divine. I'm not saying one way or the other,
01:32:36.840but clearly, yes, the polaric sexes are important to our bronzes ancestors because of the endowment
01:32:43.020of both the male and female of their genders and their anatomy are clearly marked on these stones
01:32:51.340and how important it is when the power of the masculine and the feminine come together,
01:32:57.280what they can create, that imagery seems to be very heavy and prevalent.
01:33:04.520Also, too, boat and wagon iconography is heavily seen there from the burial shapes of the ships.
01:33:16.240So they're burying the dead, but they're burying them in mounds shaped like ships.
01:33:20.580also to again uh barrows themselves the a lot of people um seem to forget like they think of
01:33:28.340a viking funeral or you know the viking funeral the nordic age viking funeral of the burning in
01:33:35.320the pyre but it was the bronze age where we had a lot of the barrow uh like building and burials
01:33:44.560of kings sacral kings uh or even sacral lines uh buried in so there's a lot of evidence there um
01:33:53.760and you know again stone placement is a huge one uh so there's but there's speculation as
01:34:02.000to far as far as to what they might have done astronomical events stone placement water
01:34:08.640obviously we we can kind of surmise um you know bog and swamp um whether it was uh sacrifices of
01:34:17.440those who were caught in battle um i think that uh the the killing of of unwanted or criminals
01:34:26.660and things like that may have been left for other areas perhaps there was some designation as to
01:34:31.940uh you know one area being sacral and the other being kind of more or less places to play put
01:34:37.680things that no longer need to be seen by the folk um so you know you have these these uh
01:34:44.960senses of sacrifice the romans talked a lot about how the amber trade was already well
01:34:51.440established in the baltic area by their time so it you know it's assuming that going even further
01:34:57.600back that during the bronze age there was a lot of uh trade and and movement there about uh amber
01:35:03.920So Amber may have had some prevalence. Obviously, we do see it with connections to Freya by the Nordic period. Amber is deeply connected to her.
01:35:14.800um so you know as far as the faith and and the practice of of the gods in the bronze age it's
01:35:27.160it's a lot of evidence but most of it's archaeological it's not really written down
01:35:32.900but there's a ton of evidence and i would say definitely focusing on sweden and gotland and
01:35:39.000And even across the way in Zeeland, which is the island chains in between Denmark and Norway and Sweden, there's a lot of evidence in those areas of Bronze Age stone effigies and works that may be people showing people worshiping the gods in that time frame.
01:36:03.040And of course, too, there's also evidence about the bronze disc skirts that the priestesses, or at least perhaps maidens of some renown within culture, were wearing at the time, these kind of braided skirts.
01:36:18.020So they have, you know, clothing and archaeological references to those times, but apparently extremely active and far more than the Nordic period.
01:36:29.560i think i remember uh i was here ago he was talking about it when he went to sweden how much
01:36:34.600he was blown away by the uh the worship of the gods before even the viking era or what people
01:36:42.600would consider the viking area era or or you know from like five five hundred to ten you know
01:36:49.480ten hundred they just that's that's a highly focused area but there's so much more from before
01:36:55.560and it's right there i mean the the swedes and the nords can like go to these places
01:37:02.120um and just walk amongst those stones so
01:37:08.360i see monk over here he's semper fi monk um i i see that as well yep i was in 03 11. uh i was in
01:37:17.480uh 33 um but yeah no marine is ever medium by any means no there's only two types of marines there's
01:37:24.600rottweilers and and dobermans um that's i know he'll catch that reference or anybody that's
01:37:32.360been in the marine corps will catch those references but yeah um no i'm an old man now so
01:37:39.400uh i can i can joke it myself i think it's fun um you know i think if anybody can't take
01:37:47.800a joke about themselves i think that's a big thing too in the internet days a lot of people can't
01:37:52.360can't they take themselves way too seriously and they they they can't laugh at themselves and i
01:37:58.060think if it's one thing in the marine corps and i'm sure you can attest to this is uh you grow
01:38:03.120a thick skin because there is nothing more savage than a group of bored marines and and you just
01:38:09.600mess up in front of them and they're gonna eat you alive i mean you got you got to be able to
01:38:14.740take your lickings and not you know no breaking can't break them i get it swan you might be the
01:38:21.720medium show but at least you're not the chihuahua with the pink collar frothing at the mouth
01:38:26.140no no no by no means no no you might be a medium show but i'm an ankle biter so
01:38:32.760i didn't know you were referencing to yourself if i if i post in a chat of a chihuahua with a pink
01:38:42.480collar growling oh that's you coming that's me somebody's about to get it what am i gonna do
01:38:48.920i'm like five foot three and 100 pounds soaking wet i'm gonna yeah i had no idea i had no idea
01:38:56.580i had some like facial resemblance to the big show like maybe he's a long lost brother or
01:39:01.940something i don't know you should see if he wants to donate to what yeah well and that picture of
01:39:09.420him with the long hair he doesn't he like shaved his head and all that stuff but yeah i mean i
01:39:15.260wonder if he has a good barber's phone you should find oh yeah maybe i could yeah
01:56:34.360obsidian has a question for us are you aware the recently discovered
01:56:41.820brec brecty it yeah brec brecty it yeah or brecty it day yeah it was published yesterday today and
01:56:50.740as the oldest mention of odin so i've seen that shared around our groups in our group chats our
01:56:57.760spiritual excellence chats and things like that i have not read it yet swan have you looked at it
01:57:01.640yet uh no so uh this is actually i saw this in the in the side here um and like again honesty
01:57:09.160is a thing uh no i hadn't i saw a thumbnail i think earlier today but i was at work um and so
01:57:18.900i didn't get a chance to look at it um and i was kind of over here i actually have it in the search
01:57:23.460but i haven't clicked to go on it yet um and i would you know i'd very much like to know more
01:57:29.120Now, I know there's reference, of course, the Vatstana Brekte or Brektiet has the full Futhark on it and has an image of a man or a man like being on a horse with a raven over his shoulder or a bird.
01:57:57.580so we both have rating to do when we get off here yeah i know it's like
01:58:01.440we're talking to each other about this and we're on here after being at work and you guys get all
01:58:08.360the good dirt before we do i know i know and then i end up putting in my notes on my phone i'm like
01:58:13.580go look at this yes all right tony king of cheese hi tony he asked brandy's fun great to see you
01:58:23.840both on. How are we doing tonight? I'm doing awesome. I am talking to you all with one of
01:58:29.340my best friends, the medium show, even though I'm totally bummed out that I'm not going to see him
01:58:34.860and my other friends at Thor's hop this weekend. I wish them all the best and I'm with you guys
01:58:40.140in spirit. Spawn, how are you guys doing? Oh, I'm doing good. I'm actually, a lot of people don't
01:58:46.220this as well sometimes my my chat is not uh sometimes it freezes or you know doesn't pick up
01:58:54.220uh or it'll stop at a certain point and um but you know i'm seeing all these great questions tonight
01:58:59.580um you know and i yeah i'm doing great but again i'm writing down notes half the time
01:59:06.540half the time this these uh these episodes are me going down rabbit holes if you will yeah uh even
01:59:14.380even from here it's like it's not about so much as giving out knowledges is like i'm starting to
01:59:21.020receive that's why i'm here there you go yeah i was seeing over here like uh the greek idea of
01:59:29.580of the uh the cacodemon uh the negative divine force that you offer something to keep away
01:59:35.020disaster at bay in regarding jaskavi yes i was going to mention that actually too because there's
01:59:40.220also reference of uh like a year a year is uh in in our faith is the god of the or excuse me the
01:59:49.740jotain because he is aligned with the gods but not through marriage or through really through aid
01:59:56.860he is it's it's um he is a jotain uh but is primordial primordial ocean so very much like
02:00:05.500the titan oceanus um and he was honored or prayed to to avert disaster oftentimes i think between
02:00:15.740like what would probably be the voyages between the faro islands and iceland would be a great time
02:00:21.260to stave off the deep oceans vengeance if you will i also see that uh steen popped in in the
02:00:31.080chat and he says, Roger, ma'am. And then again, Roger. I love that man. Love that man.
02:00:42.940All right. Oh, it looks like, so when we had our entropy
02:00:46.200donation, it's not Michael, it's Matthew. Sorry about that.
02:00:52.680Thank you, Matthew, not Michael for that donation tonight. All right.
02:00:58.200let's see was it the wolf throne i know that was oh yeah wolf thrones next thoughts on europe our
02:01:08.400ancestral homeland becoming increasingly non-white was what does that mean for our future as
02:01:14.620europeans so what that means for our future as europeans is that we need to take the preservation
02:01:21.440of our music, our food, our culture, our people, and our religion into our own hands and make sure
02:01:28.720that we never let it be forgotten. Because it is up to you and it is up to me and it is up to the
02:01:34.340rest of our folk to make sure that what we hold sacred and what we hold true is never erased.
02:01:41.200So we need to call more of our folk home to the religion of our people. We need to remember to
02:01:46.880sing the old songs and make the old food. We need to remember to teach our children the dances in
02:01:53.140our lore and that they know the names of their ancestors and that they understand the importance
02:01:58.060of a traditional family so that our people and our traditions, the things that make us beautiful
02:02:03.440are never erased. So rather than see the doom and gloom in that, which there very well may be
02:02:12.740for a lot of people who are living that i understand that take that as a challenge to be
02:02:18.900stronger to do better and to teach the children so that we will not lose the things that make us
02:02:29.780beautiful special and that we won't be erased from history what do you think swan yeah i think that
02:02:36.740it starts with our faith and it starts this is a spiritual battle and a spiritual battle isn't um
02:02:44.820contextualized in like political jargon it's it is it is exactly what brandy just said it starts
02:02:53.300off with you you know realizing you are a people i think a lot of people in modern context in europe
02:03:01.540have been thoroughly modernized and secularized i think that we need you know coming back to our
02:03:07.380faith one is the is the return away to turn away from modernity and the return back to an
02:03:14.820understanding that we are a people we have cultures that our cultures are deeply connected i think
02:03:19.780that's another big um problem with uh excuse me with um uh european folk and and i would even say
02:03:28.260people within the anglo sphere whether we're talking about the canadians the americans the
02:03:32.740australians the africaner as they're not anglo sphere i know they're dutch but or dutch anglo
02:03:41.220but all of these folk you know it comes back down to starting at home starting in the soul
02:03:49.940starting in the self starting and building with community building back to the gods and then
02:03:55.940we understand the placement of what we are by our very existence allowed and should be allowed to
02:04:05.220do, which is to define our place and to reclaim and stop the global movements of peoples that are
02:04:14.340being brought in, clearly for political reasons. We know that people have the migrants and the
02:04:22.900usage of political migrants on countries in europe and uh via the eu and all of that stuff we can see
02:04:29.860that all happening and you can't you you know you might not be able to politically or even
02:04:39.380you know physically stop uh you know the machinations of a twisted government but what
02:04:44.900you can do is change yourself change your family teach your children build your community and
02:04:52.900That is the tiny force that moves forward, that grows bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.
02:05:01.920And, you know, again, conducting ourselves, because we're not going to do this, we're not alone, we're not simply by ourselves.
02:05:08.420There are lots of people that may not agree with us religiously, but they will find the grain of our wood will lend them to help or to join us to see that we're worth.
02:05:24.080Because, again, if you go out there and you're not a good person, you're not a noble person, and you're screaming at the top of your lungs about a very important subject, but you yourself are just not a great representative of anything spiritually, morally, intellectually, anything, you're not going to garner any sense of community or movement.
02:05:50.280A lot of people that are just edgy or they want to be the bad guys in some ridiculous narrative that's placed out in the world, those people, it's laughable and it's sad at the same time.
02:06:11.940Because, again, you're not going to win that way.
02:06:16.220You're already kind of relegating yourself to failure.
02:06:20.180Instead, you should look at the positive.
02:06:21.960And that positive only comes about not by just looking at it, but being it, making it continuously so in your actions.
02:06:32.020And a lot of that comes from this as a spiritual battle.
02:06:40.860If you are Gaulish, Teutonic, Slavic, Hellenic, our people have been all over Europe. Or if you're in the Anglo sphere, the Dutch Afrikaner sphere, the gods are with our people.
02:07:00.680And it starts firstly with us coming and seeing that we must align ourselves to order.
02:07:29.680you don't get the tree right away so the seed is this the seed is us now absolutely
02:07:38.960all right ally asks brandy can you please explain the full come hem chance it's one of
02:07:45.680my favorite things that we do so the uh full come hem chant was actually something that we
02:07:52.000adapted out of my personal practice and it was about a year ago that we really started focusing
02:08:01.200on bringing full comb and starting to get excited about the numbers that we were seeing
02:08:06.640um in applicants and and active members and so many things going on so
02:08:15.760we started like i said this is part of my personal practice that we did but we had it
02:08:20.400translated into swedish by one of our awesome folk builders in sweden eric and basically what
02:08:29.840it says in english is we call to our children we call to our men we call to our sisters folk
02:08:36.960come home folk come home and we had it translated into uh swedish and we've been using it at the
02:08:43.600half at wayfarers bloke and all of the women will gather around the folk flame and place their hands
02:08:51.520on each other on you know one hand on each shoulder of their sister and we start out very very slowly
02:08:58.480and we build so at first we start whispering to our children to the men folk to our sisters
02:09:05.600come home, come home. While we're doing that, the men are in a circle around us and they are
02:09:15.340concentrating on that journey and they call their rhido while we're doing that. And that is the safe
02:09:22.220journey to answer the call of the women who are calling out to their folk, asking them to come
02:09:27.580home. So we start out very, very quietly like a whisper. And by the time we're done, we are shaking
02:09:34.980the rafters of bouldershoff hoping as many people as possible will hear us and that's actually
02:09:41.140started to spread throughout the afa i know that they're doing it in a few other areas as well
02:09:47.460but it's really powerful and if you ever get the chance to stand with your sisters
02:09:53.460please don't be afraid of it it takes just a few minutes to practice you'll you'll get it by the
02:10:00.340time we start shaking the rafters you'll be so caught up in that energy with your sisters that
02:10:05.780you'll have it i promise so don't ever be intimidated by it
02:10:10.420it's something extraordinarily powerful that we do and it really connects the women together
02:10:18.100so that's where that came from and the women love to do it they just love it
02:10:22.580yeah i'm waiting for it to to hit down here again you know or or at least i think winter nights by
02:10:31.060this coming winter nights you know i think that when the ladies get together especially around
02:10:36.060the night of the dcr there's a lot of transference there and i'm hoping some of that comes down to
02:10:41.380yeah it's it's really strong i mean you can just feel the energy from you know woman to woman
02:10:49.520transferred out and it just radiates out but it starts out soft like a lullaby and by the time
02:10:55.120we're done there's a lot of us that can't speak afterwards so it's it's pretty powerful yeah and i
02:11:02.080i it's i it's interesting for me again because a lot of people think they don't understand that
02:11:06.880some of the um nuances of also true folk like culture and with the ladies you know how that
02:11:15.040these mysteries amongst like it's i want to see it come down to thor's off i'm not a lady like
02:11:20.720i'm not a woman that this is within your circles and it's it's spreading organically on its own
02:11:26.800i'm just anticipating for it to come down just wait until it makes it down there right exactly
02:11:32.560but i am anticipating it like much i want it to i want to see it because it's beautiful yes
02:11:37.840yeah tony has tony has another question for us here brandy and spawn prepare for at least one
02:11:46.480celtic question what are your thoughts on synchronizing as a true with the celtic form
02:11:51.760of arian faith such as for those of celtic descent you want to tackle this one because
02:11:59.480i know too i mean we both i know we both have a good amount of of uh dog in the fight if you will
02:12:05.580on this one but well first as far as synchronizing as true with the celtic faith or the celtic form
02:12:16.340of the arian faith they all share ago they explains this i think the best you have a set
02:12:22.900of chairs and a table right they might look a little bit different they might seem a little
02:12:29.400bit different but they're all made out of the same tree so as far as synchronizing a lot of
02:12:34.980people miss a really big point about the faith of about being pan-arian a lot of the things that
02:12:42.980you're focusing on as far as music clothing folklore and things of that nature those are
02:12:49.560local traditions right there's no reason why you can't use those local traditions and what you're
02:12:55.500doing and honor those ancestors it doesn't mean that you're being part of a different religion
02:13:01.300It just means that you have an additional tradition. Does that make sense? So a lot of the folklore and a lot of the dances and a lot of the songs, those are things that are traditional. But as far as synchronizing them, they're already synchronized as far as I'm concerned.
02:13:21.160You can see the similarities. You can see the influences between the stories and between the gods. That's pretty prevalent. A lot of people take the difference of tradition and mistake it for difference of religion.
02:13:36.600so i just wanted to add that that's usually where i go with that because
02:13:41.480traditions and religion can be separate you can already see the similarities you can already see
02:13:47.640the influence you can already see the natural synchronicity between the two but people focus
02:13:54.100more on the differences of tradition of the local area and don't realize that they're
02:13:59.940really doing the same thing just in a different traditional way
02:14:04.180i mean i think it's worth noting uh it would be lying to anybody if we said we weren't too tonic
02:14:16.280focused i mean uh first and foremost any person who who is of gallic descent i'm i have you know
02:14:24.100gallish blood as well as nordic blood and some anglo blood or or you know central germanic blood
02:14:30.740um the uh you know we we speak english we speak uh oftentimes we talk about the gods in an
02:14:39.020anglicized version uh we do use the nordic a lot because of course those are the last written
02:14:44.480sources of a time the last bastion of our faith um so teutonic focused it would be it'd be alive
02:14:54.080if it, you know, if we said it wasn't, but it clearly is. But, you know, everywhere that the
02:15:00.880Teutonic people have ever gone, they have gone with the Gallic people kind of in, there's been
02:15:05.920collision or even sometimes connectivity. But, you know, again, it's worth noting wherever the
02:15:13.620Gauls were amongst the Hellenics or the empirical, like Roman, they were pretty much completely
02:15:23.740absorbed amongst the teutons the a lot of the traditions of the gaulish people survived um
02:15:30.620the welsh language is is struggling it's but it you know it's hanging in there uh again same with uh
02:15:38.060you know scotch gaelic uh and you know this is important i think i think a lot of teutonic folk
02:15:43.420now realize that this is important that the welsh keep their language that the the scotch gaelic
02:15:48.700remains pharaohes you know these are dying languages that we want to keep around so i
02:15:55.260think that there is a do an equal amount of respect and understanding of course our founder
02:16:02.140you know is is heavily heavily irish gaelic descent um you can't deny that and i and i i
02:16:11.980don't think we should i think america is beautiful in that way that we had this unification of the
02:16:17.900of the nords the germans the anglos and the celto or gallic people kind of all together in the south
02:16:26.380in the north uh in waves in america and it's and it's made an interesting um stock of folk um but
02:16:35.980um you know when we talk about the gallic gods one of the things that's worth noting or not
02:16:41.500even the gallic gods just all the gods in general of europe the tripartites like i i just saw you
02:16:47.020know like here too two of two the the greek roman gods seem to have zero connection to our gods
02:16:54.300let's talk about that a little bit first and foremost if there's a tripartite the arians
02:17:00.380have touched it a lot of people try to do the i guess like the singular sky daddy earth mommy
02:17:06.460thing because the the reference of going back towards the indo-european like they're doing the
02:17:12.860going back going back uh that there you know but the reality of the observation is is that there's
02:17:19.740always a tripartite or a trinity so much so that it in that christianity came into europe without
02:17:26.060one and it wasn't long before it had a trinity because it was immersed amongst the arians for
02:17:32.460so long that its tradition changed um you know and again there was wars fought about christians
02:17:39.420kill each other wholesale in a war about whether there's a trinity or not um but the trinity isn't
02:17:45.820is is an arian folk point so you know whether you're talking about uh i i think especially
02:17:52.940from the teutonic and nordic branches we view the trinity as as thrones that the gods can
02:17:59.340kind of sit in whether thor is in the center and but olden and frey or if it's olden and you know
02:18:06.620tier and thor or whether you know we i think the the the northern folk of the teutonic especially
02:18:15.660by the later periods showed this kind of organic movement but i mean if you talk about
02:18:22.300the the gauls in in france like you had twisto and terra tatis and essus and that was their
02:18:31.100tripartite and esus in and of himself was a triplicate he was a tripartite a a god of
02:18:36.780dynamicism of death and magic and and and poetry so again these it's just that where they were
02:18:45.340placed within significance is really really i think the thing that people get really confused
02:18:50.460on they try to unilaterally cram the gods into different societies saying like oh well you know
02:18:57.500this god of this society is this is in the same throne as this god no those thrones could be also
02:19:05.100parts that move there's you know the stasis throne the dynamic throne and the catalyst throne
02:19:09.740and amongst different arian folks those thrones had different significances
02:19:14.940for the teutonic people the highest is the dynamic um but you know again whether it's stasis or
02:19:22.700catalyst or or or dynamic is it remains to be seen and we don't know too much but like again
02:19:27.900the tripartite amongst the gauls at least amongst the french the frankish area of where of the
02:19:35.420gaulish lands we had you know tuisto teratatus and asus uh amongst the etruscans they called their
02:19:44.300gods, the AISAR, A-I-S-A-R. That's quite interesting considering their position from
02:19:53.680the Nordic folk. And they had a tripartite. Now, it was interesting for them as the head
02:20:03.280of their stasis started with a T as well, like Teratatis. Let me see real quick. I might
02:20:10.000able to look it up but they had uh the um they had the uh also like i think it's unar is i the earth
02:20:21.120or the the mother and then which would uh of course the romans equated her to juno um and
02:20:28.240there was another uh that was also connected but they had it was interesting that they had a male
02:20:34.720and a female in the tripartite that was interesting amongst themselves um the hellenics
02:20:40.880they had it but of course because they're hellenics and they're in the math they numbered theirs you
02:20:47.440know it's like zeus or deus potter he has the singular scepter or the singular lightning bolt
02:20:53.600and then the second the stasis throne of death is haddis or plutonius and he has abidant and then
02:21:02.880the third is the lord of storms and waters neptune and he has a trident they named they've numbered
02:21:08.480their tripartite with one two and three i mean it's like you can't even make this up um and then
02:21:15.920the slavs too you know they had an interesting their tripartite is very interesting because
02:21:20.640their dichotomy is is heavily between perun and velez and svaurag or davis is is uh kind of above
02:21:30.640he's a stasis throne um and is seen as like kind of above the the the polarity between the two
02:21:39.200of perun and velas um and again when we talk about the familial connections between those gods
02:21:45.840uh amongst the slavs velas and perun are the sons of svarog or i i'm probably even saying that wrong
02:21:53.760so please excuse me if i'm if i'm butchering that but again um the familial ties are again
02:22:00.880are talking about the interconnectivity of the gods culturally mythically the way that they
02:22:08.080express themselves to our folk and teach our folk is unique amongst all of these different branches
02:22:14.720but there are deep connectivities even all the way back i mean there was somebody uh
02:22:19.040We weren't arguing. I was actually intently listening, but he had made a point that he thought that the original tripartite of the Vedic Hindu or Aryan Vedic faith was Indra, Varuna, and Agni.
02:22:37.540So, you know, lightning, water, and fire, I think, is what he was kind of pointing. And I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that's what he was saying, and I was listening intently to that.
02:22:47.220again the tripartite shows up again so there are some some very deep connections that we can see
02:22:55.380there's a lot of cultural context that does divide us doesn't necessarily make us um so far removed
02:23:03.060from each other that i don't think that we can't have a common respect for each other i know that
02:23:07.540if a slav um is honoring perun amongst my folk i would say that's that's thor or thunor or thoneras
02:23:18.180you know it's it whatever whatever we linguistically say we understand that that
02:23:24.740unilateral connection so there's a lot of deep connections but if anybody's interested in looking
02:23:30.100at all the branches and how the arian like connectivity is there it's the tripartite
02:23:35.940that you should be looking into and i i you know check out the etruscans that'll that's a good one
02:23:42.820to start on but it's not by any means the only one the elshiro gody left us a comment and it
02:23:49.380says people of the pants come home to the afa yes yes well he's been here this whole time yes
02:23:58.260we are unsupervised we're not yes people of the pants no uh again
02:24:06.900um yes no i i think it's it's splitting hairs and purity spiraling when we get too far into the
02:24:13.700ideas like well i'm i'm i'm irish and scottish and english and and i you know it's we're purity
02:24:22.020spiraling too far i think that to understand that the gods are above or not above as in a way of like
02:24:32.100casting off but they are the divines they the divines have been with all of the branches of
02:24:40.620the folk and are expressed in our souls in those different branches uniquely but their powers are
02:24:50.300still there and so if you think that because you've got too much irish blood you have to
02:24:56.060you have to uh you know give prayers to um you know
02:25:04.780the tuatha de danaan and you can't to the icer then you're you know
02:25:11.980you're taking this in a in a different way and and i don't think that's that's necessarily the
02:25:17.100best way to take it or if if you if it needs to be said you can go home you have traditions like
02:25:24.460winton brandy said you have traditions at your home when we come to a national event you just
02:25:28.220understand that we're using teutonic focus that's the language we're using the gods that we're
02:25:34.860talking about you could go home and you you can call thor perun all you want you just understand
02:25:42.540that when you come to an afa gathering you're using teutonic you're using the teutonic name
02:25:49.580of thor or thunor so you know don't split hairs come home just come home right no navel gazing
02:26:01.340wear whatever pants you want just right yeah don't don't stare at your toes and try to count them out
02:26:07.340walk forward. There we go. So you kind of went into this already, explaining a few things,
02:26:15.340but the Wolf Throne asks, this is going to be long, it's fun. I'd like to hear your thoughts
02:26:20.280on this. It's very clear that the Celtic and Slavic gods have a lot in common with our gods.
02:26:24.860Some of them may even be the same gods under different names, but the Greek Roman gods
02:26:29.260seem to have zero connection to our gods. Is Southern European divinity separate from Northern
02:26:34.280european divinity if they are related how so where's the common roots and i know you already
02:26:39.880yeah we just kind of yeah i mean i love tomato europe i'm from potato europe no no
02:26:50.440and i think that we need to join hands no um tomato sauce would be great on potatoes yeah it
02:26:57.320was it's just it exactly well and the ironic part of that is that tomatoes and potatoes
02:27:02.280aren't native i'm from turnip europe and they're from all of europe gotcha see um no uh yeah again
02:27:13.560i just kind of touched on that the tripartite is a huge thing to focus in on i think it's worth
02:27:18.440noting now i have pondered and i'm not saying this is the case i've wondered about the influence of
02:27:23.480the phoenicians amongst the hellenic people because there was a lot of that and we do know
02:27:29.240that there was transference between the the greco hellenic area and the phoenicians and the minoans
02:27:36.280and even all the way down into the egyptians we know that there was that bridge there and how much
02:27:42.120that influenced so would we consider the hellenics to be an arian branch that was influenced by
02:27:49.560outside people i'm the argument could be made uh just as much as say for instance like where the
02:27:55.960uh the arian people that became the iranians were clearly interacting with people of the southlands
02:28:03.240below them the the semitic or the people that spoke of the tongue of shem the shemetic uh folks
02:28:10.680whether they were uh or you know what eventually would be descended into like the arabs or the you
02:28:16.520know the hebrews or uh you know that i guess they would sometimes they're referred to as like
02:28:21.320indo-syrian or you know like they're they're they're not you know they're not iranian they're
02:28:29.240kind of just south of that uh south of where the hittites and the louians were
02:28:34.920and of course you know you look at the at like text from that area in the semitic faiths they
02:28:41.000even talk about their northern neighbors the what riding the chariots and so on and so forth
02:28:45.320and those people were you know probably an arian branch and again that that speaks of influence
02:28:50.200was there an arian branch that invaded india and clearly had influence from an outside
02:28:54.760peoples there yes absolutely um so the celts the slavs and the teutonic people are unique
02:29:04.600in their uh their correlation because they seem to uh more or less fracture into different branches
02:29:15.160but then in turn influenced themselves and fight themselves and kind of back and forth. And then
02:29:20.360there was the injection of, um, both the Romans and their, their religion pre-Christian. Um,
02:29:30.720and then eventually, you know, the, the Christian, uh, uh, you know, from Charlemagne and that,
02:29:37.740and all of that started to interject into europe and so the the uh the influences over
02:29:43.980aryan branches in europe seem to be more internalized and a lot more uh cross fighting
02:29:52.080amongst each other as opposed to simply kind of intermingling with with um other groups and when
02:29:58.760you start to look at those patterns and see them they become a clear again the tripartite was the
02:30:03.420the the real big one the the ordering of the sky if you will there always seems to be a progenitor
02:30:09.660that progenitor may have another progenitor and then that progenitor usually marries with a with
02:30:17.740the feminine whether it's the earth or or or the waters or something and then from there the sky
02:30:23.500is ordered into threes stasis dynamicism and catalyst and dynamicism has the ability to move
02:30:32.700all over and is oftentimes triplicated stasis is very singular and oftentimes vertical axis
02:30:40.060and catalyst is oftentimes lateral axis sometimes vertical as well but they never the catalyst
02:30:45.980never seems to descend into the underworld for us that would of course be thor like thor is the
02:30:50.620catalyst uh the striker the one that moves on the edges between the material and the primordial but
02:30:56.940can also ascend into the heavenly realms so there's a lot of connectivities if you read a lot of the
02:31:02.780stories of all the european folk you begin to see more likenesses than i mean yeah the differences
02:31:10.460are glaring and it's worth noting that it's the differences that count i'm not saying that we're
02:31:15.980all we need to blend it all together into one big mash i'm just saying it's it builds a healthy
02:31:20.700respect i can i have respect for the for the uh the the slavic folk uh the latvian or the baltic
02:31:27.500folk and their beliefs i have you know and the hellenics and things like that but we're teutonic
02:31:32.940and i think that especially people of the pants are you know with you guys we speak germanic
02:31:41.100anglish you know of some sort and i think splitting hairs is ridiculous and we should unite
02:31:48.140and i know that means burying a lot of the past um but i'm not saying that we should forget or
02:31:55.740try to destroy our individuality but it's time to yeah come home obsidian skull asks us fawn
02:32:07.420should focus heathens help and support more the sami community i i will put out there i think that
02:32:15.580that folkish people should support other people who want to preserve their own thing.
02:32:22.620You know, I'm in support of everybody's preserving their own culture and their own
02:32:29.140traditions and their own religion. I support anybody who wants to do that. Swan, what about
02:32:33.560you? Yeah, 100%. Whether they're folk, whether they're not folk, yeah, preserving your folk
02:32:41.820faith is priority number one. I think, yeah, again, people purity spiral. Do you support
02:32:48.360the Finns? I was making a joke a couple of episodes back where I was like, I'm just the
02:32:56.020damn Welsh, making this argument about the Welsh. No, yeah, I think we should. We should
02:33:03.940absolutely. I think that it's interesting that we see the global media trying to turn
02:33:10.220the semi into victims. You can see them kind of doing that. They do that. That's one of their
02:33:17.180tactics is to help disseminate a foundational sense is to hyper-focus victimization on one
02:33:26.400specific group in that. They don't care about the preservation of the semi. They want to weaponize
02:33:33.080their victimization that's what they're doing so you know oh they you know the the sami people
02:33:39.480don't call them laplanders and then the you know oh the the they've been oppressed by the swedes
02:33:45.720and the nords for generally like well perhaps yes that is the case are they now no they're
02:33:53.420should they be preserved yes should the teutonic people you know have the teutonic people completely
02:33:59.500eradicated them no they were not like the the romantic folk of like that went in and completely
02:34:06.780decimated the gauls um and so yeah i think that again we should can be concerned and have their
02:34:14.300their tribal way of life and i think that we can learn a lot from them i think we have learned a
02:34:18.940lot from them about how our religion has interplayed in their culture and their culture has again
02:34:24.620interplayed in ours even down to like america and santa claus you know and um some of the
02:34:32.080spiritual practices there uh yeah i think that's it's it's worth us supporting their folk faith
02:34:37.360oh right shiro asks any thoughts on the theory that homer's epics references the
02:34:46.240baltic countries as felice vinci claims in the baltic origins of homer's epic tales
02:34:52.400hmm uh i don't i don't have too much on this because
02:35:08.440the baltic countries i don't know i mean are you are you saying that the the theory is that
02:35:16.660the uh like the epic itself is based in the baltics if you could kind of clarify that a
02:35:25.780little bit but i'm not super familiar with this theory neither am i yeah can you can you elaborate
02:35:33.980just a little bit more on that yeah sure elaborate a little bit and we'll come back to that
02:35:39.620ali asks i've been rattling this around in my brain for a while now witness fawn can you speak
02:35:46.080a bit on the connection between the slumbering king stories arthur barbarossa and balder between
02:35:52.740life and death merlin seems quite a lot like odin is this possibly a christianization of a lost
02:35:59.360story or something else entirely well we talk about the gods manifesting in our in our a lot
02:36:07.380in our stories uh through various ways um that's why like i think people when they scoff about the
02:36:14.200connection of um uh like even to like tolkien you know i know tolkien everyone's very quick
02:36:23.840well he was a catholic you know especially catholics they he was a catholic they jump
02:36:28.520on that like whoa um yes yes yes but the manifestation of the gods continues to bubble
02:36:35.800up through the folk despite their catholicism worth noting um no uh again the influence of of
02:36:44.840these stories uh man if the gods and the powers of them and what they are it's i think it's more
02:36:50.760a question of whether or how we identify them and i don't think that we should ever be 100 sure of
02:36:56.600ourselves because the gods have a tendency to kick that hubris right in the crotch but it's worth
02:37:04.040noting perhaps uh through piety and devotion a semblance of understanding that the gods are
02:37:11.000manifesting themselves in in many different stories whether and we talk about the sacral king
02:37:16.200how the king is connected to the land to the slumbering or dead and the rising again of the
02:37:21.240sun and the light or the the crown or or the attainment of of the the grail or the goblet
02:37:29.320and what that that perennial truth means um and the gods are behind that like again you know
02:37:37.000the gods are you know are based on archetypes no the archetypes are based on the gods same way the
02:37:41.960archetypes of these stories are the gods bubbling up and manifesting in the material realm even if
02:37:50.280it doesn't mean that we're calling them odin you know he is manifesting in our stories again
02:37:59.880to show the connectivity and wisdom and what that what that means so and we're even in like that's
02:38:06.200again merlin seems a lot like odin yes especially if you take it that way then odin now is talking
02:38:14.280to you through merlin yes and that's okay again that's okay because that's how he works that
02:38:22.840that's a thing again about purity spiraling too far into you know a time a stasis of time
02:38:30.920a very specific era the gods are real they're not conceptualized things in a book written by
02:38:40.520an icelander or a dane in the 12th century that is a huge part of it and it does give us an anchor
02:38:48.680into cultural like manifestation of our bridging that gap that's been divided for so long
02:38:57.400and christians try to hit us on that hit us in that one all the time you guys don't have
02:39:02.600an established tradition or you know you guys don't have a mystical connection
02:39:05.560anyways that does help us in that bridge but they scoff at the notion that our gods are
02:39:17.440manifesting in music our gods are manifesting in certain ways and it's more so not necessarily
02:39:22.780that that like merlin or the story of merlin is ovin but that if you perceive the wisdom that's
02:39:30.220being spoken in that moment then that connectivity is made you have to be careful though there are
02:39:36.060lots of people that try to bastardize the stories but sometimes it's not like entirely there i mean
02:39:44.380sometimes when it comes from a point of devotion it's not a bastardization it's not a degeneration
02:39:49.900um you know it's somebody again we talked about that before in victory and everything's like the
02:39:54.840marvel comics and stuff like that that's not coming from a point of devotion there's there's
02:39:59.800other things there but if it is and you perceive it that way then suddenly that wisdom does kind
02:40:07.080of start to play true when you see oven in merlin whatever kind of story that he might you might be
02:40:13.960reading that in um or whether you see it in in uh gandalf or um whether you see it in like again in
02:40:22.600the finished stories maybe you're not even finished but all of a sudden you know you see it in in uh
02:40:27.560vanamonen in the uh in the cavella and you suddenly wow wait a minute that i see olden there
02:40:37.640then you know i would not say um you know out of respect i wouldn't say don't blanket everything
02:40:46.520into one god but i am saying that seeing the connectivity uh within peirun and thor or you
02:40:54.040know seeing um i think it's tupio the god of the hunt and ular and seeing those connectivities and
02:41:02.280that perhaps ular is speaking to the to the fins through tupio as he does through the glory
02:41:09.880that we call him the glorious one so uh you know that's that's an interesting thing to
02:41:15.960think about that connectivity it's kind of a balance between not purely purity spiraling
02:41:21.880but also respecting uh the individual sections of europe that's a tough one yes so shiro has
02:41:31.640reiterated a little bit here about his theory and it is that the theory is that odysus visits the
02:41:38.500baltics those are the places he visits on his 20-year voyage voyage so goes the claim
02:41:44.220so okay familiar with that yeah no i did hear a little bit about this because they're talking
02:41:50.240about how in in the voyage um because the mediterranean was so well known by by the
02:41:58.000travels especially northern africa and on the on the southern peninsulas of the mediterranean
02:42:03.280that the voyage itself seems extraordinarily long and filled with islands and places and destinations
02:42:11.280that the med like the mediterranean the people there would probably know them
02:42:16.880already so like how so yeah i do kind of i recall a little bit of this um
02:42:23.520and again too when the question comes up it's very brief so i'm like trying to read it but i i don't
02:42:28.320know uh yeah i mean i've heard people have even talked about possibly too that his voyage was on
02:42:33.360the western side of africa too that he left outside of the the um i guess past the peninsula
02:42:41.200of spain and and um morocco or northern africa and that it led him out there but as equally
02:42:48.640fascinating as it would be to go to the western africa western africa i mean again coming up
02:42:53.920through the isles and into the baltics uh perhaps even in like again the island chains between
02:42:59.920norway and sweden but i wonder again if that theory is standing um you know weather and
02:43:09.680things like that i don't know like the the north sea and its its prevalence towards such cold
02:43:16.320weather uh would it be remarked or noted by mediterranean sailors or was it changed to fit
02:43:23.920you know to give more of a connectivity to the audience they're speaking to they can't talk
02:43:28.560about like you know ice sheets and things like that to people in the mediterranean because
02:43:32.160you might not know what that is so yeah i know that's an interesting question i i heard more
02:43:38.960about western africa than i did about the baltic and i'm gonna write that down in my notes so
02:43:45.920that's task number three that you have yeah
02:43:52.080oh yes your goal he says great show guys plane has taken off i will see many of you
02:43:57.120fine folk at thor's huff journey sir i wish i was gonna see you guys again it is not too late to
02:44:05.600get registered for ostara i bet they would still let you in if you showed up on friday what do you
02:44:13.120think one yes yes it's not too late to get your ticket go register over at the ball just show up
02:44:22.480and and yeah just like at winter nights sometimes people they they don't know until the last minute
02:44:28.880and then they show up and everything gets sorted out right there so yeah i'm sure they would
02:44:33.280take cash at the door as long as you're a member and you're coming in good faith right spawn yep
02:44:37.440absolutely if you're if you're if you're or if you're vouched for definitely too um but yeah you
02:44:43.440if you come there and um you know you you uh you can pay at the door it's perfectly fine uh it's
02:44:52.400just that remember when we when we do stuff um notifying us in advance helps us prepare food
02:45:00.080and it helps us logistically that's a big thing and a lot of people i understand schedule wise
02:45:04.640they can't always do that but the sooner you do it the better it is for for all of us to facilitate
02:45:11.440uh you know maybe even help out with hotels it just logistically it helps us out if you
02:45:17.740hit us up much earlier spawn really needs to know how many eggs he has to buy in order to throw them
02:45:26.400at you and your children this weekend yes i'm already i'm already i'm already buying like
02:45:32.640it's not all sara unless a child is full of egg right covered in
02:45:38.200uh yeah i'm already i'm already projected to buy like three or four cases so yes yeah but yeah it
02:45:48.000helps us out logistically so much yes so if you're coming let's fawn know uh or any of the folk
02:45:54.460builders down there at thorsoff so we know whether or not we need an extra dozen eggs
02:45:58.460yes yeah all right bucket clinger here has a question for us fawn
02:46:06.280what types of achievement achievements would enable one to go to uller's home so one thing
02:46:14.000about going to the home of the gods is it takes a lot a lot it's got to be something that would be
02:46:22.900transcendental right it's fun it would need to be something worthy of the gods themselves you
02:46:29.040want to elaborate on that yeah i think that uh you just hit the nail on the head without it's
02:46:34.240It's got to be a lot because the way we see our deaths, our souls to be reconnected beyond the veil to our ancestors is a part of the cycle of it all.
02:46:45.220To be denied by our ancestors to pass through the realm of death and to join them, to be cast aside is detrimental and terrible.
02:46:59.060But that's the cycle, and that's why we try to live a life that both honors and elevates the renown of our folk, the renown of our families, the renown of our ancestors.
02:47:12.680the gods on the other hand are watching us now from uh from above and they're watching us through
02:47:21.560and as they look we're what what we are trying to be witnessed for is glory indeed and action
02:47:28.040um and that takes a lot noble forthrightness um and really to understanding that the gods are
02:47:36.700seeing us now as we do things now uh bad and good i i'll be the first to say it for myself
02:47:46.060you know i i think a lot of uh also true folk don't think about or conceptualize
02:47:51.820the gods as um you know interacting with the material from above or in in the in the cosmic
02:48:00.620or ordeal or order plane plane of order and of of axio and uh our our actions now are being noted
02:48:13.340but what more so is to be noted is action that leads to great renown and that renown is takes
02:48:20.940its place within its time and context to be someone who is you know leading someone who is
02:48:29.820teaching someone who is aiding people helping people healing people these actions that are
02:48:37.900that you can take as an individual are to be witnessed or what should you should want them
02:48:42.380to be witnessed by the gods that you're doing these things at the same time understanding too
02:48:47.980that the that the negative things the inglorious the ignoble things that you're doing are also
02:48:53.180being witnessed so remove those accentuate the glory and the and the nobility and strive to
02:49:04.380impress the gods and even if they don't take you surely your ancestors will so you you know you're
02:49:13.260you're aiming beyond the acceptance of your ancestors and if you achieve any semblance of
02:49:19.980notice from the gods in that regards there's no way you you'll be denied by your ancestors
02:49:26.300so that's the way we kind of see this is you know that that's the this is the purpose of it
02:49:31.740the gods are watching now um so yeah do do glorious things to be chosen uh now again
02:49:41.660we know that with with olvin uh it's very very specifically mentioned that he is connected to
02:49:47.660that movement that he has the ability to make that movement uh there are references again to thor
02:49:52.940and they're um even in uh ale saga when they're there there's a mention of um going to be amongst
02:50:01.340thor and the gods but it does it does take a lot we do know culturally and contextually back then
02:50:09.740it's been mentioned that our ancestors spoke again of coming back from the ancestors uh most people
02:50:17.420just title that reincarnation but it's not like a one for one thing or or like perhaps
02:50:22.460in an eastern sense of what most people would think of um and also that there is mention of
02:50:29.740being amongst the gods uh for various reasons some of even you know like uh to be amongst
02:50:36.220gavion or to be amongst the maidens of fensaler if you are uh you know uh a woman who's never
02:50:42.700uh had or you know bore a child and was is a virgin and and passes away that you have some
02:50:50.700special place amongst the maidens or something of that nature there's been lots of references
02:50:55.340and speculations and personal you know devotion towards certain ideas to be accepted into those
02:51:02.140halls though is to be taken into those into the gods those halls are the gods they're valhal
02:51:10.540is oven to be taken that soul might in for a reason same thing so to be amongst or within ullars
02:51:21.500um really i don't know but i mean i i wonder or speculate or dream maybe even perhaps there is a
02:51:32.460just somebody who doesn't like again that lives on that edge that
02:51:36.860tests themselves that exemplifies and is witnessed in the gloriousness of that and
02:51:43.020does it in praise of it's another thing is i'm doing this i'm doing this for uller why
02:51:50.700no other reason than to be witnessed it's not to garner any favors i because because the mountain
02:51:56.860is there and i want him to see it and that that can apply to any of the gods or the goddesses or
02:52:03.980or any of the aus and ausenior, I should say.
02:52:07.260I'm trying to get away from gods and goddesses.
02:52:09.040I think that has some crystal fluffy bunny kind of connotations to it.
02:52:14.500The aus and the ausenior seeking glory to be even amongst them
02:52:19.740or within them after death shouldn't be the main concern.
02:52:26.380The main concern is to exemplify and aim to be witnessed by the gods.
02:52:43.340And even then, too, your renown after your death, even if your soul does go through and into, beyond the veil to your folk soul,
02:52:54.540your renown can still carry weight and that could also lead to you coming back up because there is
02:53:01.320a well there is also a root and all roots pull up that's part of the cycle of it it's very important
02:53:08.980why those roots are placed in the upper why the tree is in the upper and that the roots are that
02:53:15.800reach one in the upper one in the middle and one in the lower it's very important why that's there
02:53:20.020It's a circulatory system. A lot of people are trying to kind of drive it into this concept that it's an axis, you know, or a pillar. But, you know, the idea of a central point is very Aryan, but the idea of having to have a physical connection where the roots are all down in the underworld, that's not the way this was going.
02:53:44.020I mean, again, if you look at a lot of Aryan traditions where there's the mountain, the mountain is in the physical realm, the gods are in the top, or the mountain is in heaven and the gods are on top, the mountain is symbolic of a central place, Yggdrasil is just as much the same thing.
02:53:58.780So there is a root in the lower world, and it will draw up, seek renown, seek renown amongst the gods, and bring honor to your ancestors.
02:54:08.760obsidian asks do you think that heathen communities should teach ancient languages
02:54:16.900as a first or second language like old norse similar to the pennsylvania dutch
02:54:22.760so that's going to depend that's going to depend on you and your family and what you want to teach
02:54:29.540them. So, for example, my family is very majority Germanic, but my children are half Slavic.
02:54:41.380So what do I teach them, Russian or German, or both, right? So it's really up to you,
02:54:47.660have that conversation with your family. I think it's very important to keep all of the languages
02:54:52.920is alive. Language is a very, very important part of identity and culture. So keep as many
02:55:00.680of them alive as you can. Should it be a requirement? I don't think it should be a requirement,
02:55:06.320but I do very much believe that there's a lot of things that create a culture. And one of the
02:55:13.520biggest things that form a culture and a people is language. So I don't necessarily say that it
02:55:21.720should be required, but I think it should be highly encouraged to keep as many of our languages alive
02:55:25.820as possible. What do you think, Spahn? Yeah, I agree. If you were to view the dead languages,
02:55:34.260like, because I think you mentioned about dead languages, whether it's like Guttis-Garazda
02:55:38.780or Anglo-Saxon or Middle or High German, Old Norse, Frisian, you know, pre-Dutch,
02:55:51.720uh or netherlands like language you know all of these things very important i would say it's worth
02:55:59.400noting those are our mother tongues our father tongue is now it's english now i'm a big fan of
02:56:07.140like the english movement where they try to kind of speak english without roman or latinish words
02:56:12.860but that's just a hobby it is now the our language now our language is a culmination of of latinish
02:56:21.500and and uh germanic and all of that stuff and you know damn normans um but yeah it's cow not beef um
02:56:33.180yeah it's um the uh sorry angela angela language supremacy all the way you know uh you can keep
02:56:45.020your um i'll take my fish any day no um no the biggest thing is it's like mother tongues are
02:56:53.180really i think nerd they nurture so if you if you taught your children a language and what i mean
02:57:00.140is a i guess secondary language is the secondary language is the mother language and the mother
02:57:06.060language is a nurturing language it's one because it teaches you certain things in a sense like the
02:57:12.300father language is the one you project out into the world it's the one that you might have to
02:57:16.460speak in order for business and contract and the physical now the mother language is just as
02:57:23.340important but it does it in a different way it nurtures the understanding of linguistics
02:57:29.660it nurtures the understanding of the father language if you learn anglo-saxon as your mother
02:57:35.500tongue, it then nourishes your understanding of modern English, if you're a modern English
02:57:42.940speaker. If you're a German and your father language right now is modern German, to learn
02:57:50.380like old German, middle German, or like guttiskarasdas language, which is, you know, the
02:57:58.460source of Eastern Germanic is the source of most all Western Germanic languages in a way,
02:58:05.500um so to learn like gothic or guttanish would help you understand your own father language
02:58:13.260father language is is then imbued with the power of the mother tongue so again the feminine
02:58:20.300imbues the masculine to work itself out into the world the mead cup is given to the warrior so
02:58:28.460that he may drink and then the sword may be projected out into the will and the manifestation
02:58:33.420this is a perennial truth amongst our folk it can be applied in the same way whether we're talking
02:58:38.700about languages or anything there's a lot of hidden meanings and everything i'm just saying here
02:58:44.540whether you how you apply it but when we're talking about language yeah i think it's important
02:58:49.020so if if your father language is speaking english but you want to teach your children slavic or
02:58:55.180german even though that is the father language of someone else somewhere in the world that becomes
02:59:01.740the mother tongue in the house, it can help accentuate the points and give the child huge
02:59:11.560amounts of benefit. Again, for me, when I came to America, I was just about to start school and
02:59:21.720my mother told my brothers, nobody speak Icelandic to him. He has to learn English now. I didn't speak
02:59:27.880any english whatsoever my father who is an anglo spoke icelandic perfectly so he didn't speak it
02:59:36.040either he's he just saw no need to teach me english while we were living in iceland
02:59:41.800but then unforeseen we had to come back or he had to come back and we had to come with him so
02:59:47.640i had to learn english crash course very very quickly that's why i don't have a huge southern
02:59:52.120accent even though i was raised in the south it's because i was taught from from teachers
02:59:57.080and my first teachers were from military like towns and schooling and those people were not
03:00:03.800from the south either they were from all over or they taught this kind of educational american
03:00:08.920english um so yeah learn it it helps because even though like i i'm i don't have conversational
03:00:19.640icelandic with anyone ever and i you know i really can't i can read it though and pronounce it and
03:00:26.200then i can also look it up and suddenly i start to see oh okay i see how they they they put these
03:00:32.440words together join them together it helps a lot old norse is a good one anglo-saxon is a great one
03:00:39.080to understand where our language comes from or latin even latin's a beautiful language i mean
03:00:45.480we can say all this stuff about the past and the germanics and the the romans the romans
03:00:51.160Yeah, I mean, if you think about it, like I think some men with no pants. Yes.
03:00:58.780All of Europe and they're no pants. They're well oiled knees like
03:01:06.380to put out there for all events of the AFA. Sorry not to go down a rabbit hole.
03:01:17.860however if you come to an afa event and you are a man i do prefer that you wear pants or
03:01:26.540kilts with something underneath pants are required for all events and yeah and that's another
03:01:32.580interesting thing about the people of pants because eventually the people that speak gaelic
03:01:37.320are often associated with not wearing pants they wear kilts so i always thought that was kind of
03:01:43.120like super funny how that flipped on it but again still uh sorry it just totally derailed this whole
03:01:55.500conversation yes lack of pants lack of pants no uh the uh again language is important i think
03:02:02.900language is good i think we should teach our children it whether latin is is is wonderful
03:02:09.660phenomenal. If you're talking about Ausatru, most people would say yes, Old Norse. I would say yes,
03:02:16.960Old Norse, but I would also say German because so much of the study of Teutonic faith has been
03:02:25.000written down by Germans. Yeah, German theologians, German religious philosophers who are trying to
03:02:33.640figure out their the ancestral faith of their people and had speculated so much about it wrote
03:02:40.840it initially in german so huge benefits yes all right looks like we've got one last question for
03:02:51.460the knights this is would as a true reincarnation be more akin to the folk idea of an old soul
03:02:58.660a fresh entirely new person with the deep knowledge or understanding of things before
03:03:04.360yeah um so when we talk about reincarnation there's a lot of this is a big subject and
03:03:14.360there's been a quite a few books written about it in outs of true circles uh even back in the
03:03:19.580from folks that were really prevalent in the 80s and 90s or have written about it um and and mainly
03:03:26.200uh written from the sources that the references that they are talking about especially like uh
03:03:34.280with one of the swan maidens and the return of a soul and again uh the naming tradition i know a
03:03:40.200lot of people mark that but i think it's worth noting that there's a couple of ways we could go
03:03:45.560about looking at this is one all souls are new and they are somehow watered with the knowledge or the
03:03:53.160the hummingya of the old souls so some people announced a true belief that when when you die
03:03:59.800you go beyond the veil and you connect if you're accepted by your ancestors because there's you
03:04:04.840could be not accepted and then you go to not a good place that's but you gotta really do some
03:04:11.880needling stuff to get there some really nethering stuff but um you know the uh
03:04:20.440if you get accepted the idea is that perhaps parts of you are then drawn up into the root
03:04:27.880into the tree within heaven and the new souls are the dripping or in the stories is the dew
03:04:33.720that drips from the and falls into the well there and that well of course is the access point of the
03:04:40.920heavenly and life and cosmos and ordered powers coming into the middle world um that
03:04:47.240dew that drops in the well those new souls could be imbued with power from the old souls that were
03:04:54.200drawn up in that root so there are some folks that see that and think that and believe that and that's
03:04:59.640i think valid in its point there seems to be maybe perhaps a condensing of it the understanding that
03:05:06.920sometimes children come back and they they know things that there's a line or a connection
03:05:14.120somehow between their where they were and now and even though that might seem very very far
03:05:20.580removed because anybody that knows about genetics knows it's not like father mother father mother
03:05:27.020all the way you know like it's it could be great uncles and you know marriages or somebody has a
03:05:34.080child and then dies and then they marry into another there's connectivities that are huge
03:05:39.040expansive across the line genetically for our folk so you could you you have these cases where these
03:05:45.840these people come back through the bloodlines and they remember a lot about something
03:05:53.200and i think it's worth noting that there have been several cases of this
03:05:58.160and from an outsider perspective i would say that perhaps there's if if there is only fragments that
03:06:04.400come up there must be some condensate condensing of this because there are cases in which these
03:06:11.600people have whole full memories trauma even mental trauma of an event that happened thousands and
03:06:20.480thousands of years ago uh some people i i don't know if you guys know what i'm referring to but
03:06:25.760there's a specific case one of the best cases that we have of a uh a woman in england who said that
03:06:32.800she was born in another land when she was a child. After she fell down the stairs, the doctor pronounced
03:06:40.460her dead. And then she wakes up and she remembers a garden in a place far away. And then this whole
03:06:48.360thing turns into a giant connection to her and Egypt. And we know that folk were in Egypt. We
03:06:55.400know this, especially through the priestly class and the ruling class. They had genetics and things
03:07:02.580that we know that now looking at the these the mummies and things we see this so there is a
03:07:09.140connectivity but apparently you know she or she is in england and she's having these visions of a
03:07:14.100garden someplace in a land far away and then as she grows older she has more and more of these
03:07:20.980visions she marries uh an egyptian man just to get into egypt and then she knows about like
03:07:30.020these ancient tunnels that nobody knew about they hadn't even found them and then they were kind of
03:07:34.980following her hunch and then they look and sure enough they're there that's an again we're drifting
03:07:40.660off into some that's a rabbit hole that's a rabbit hole that's a rabbit hole and that's a cool one
03:07:48.100to to look into but i what i'm trying to do is observe the overall mysteries of the gods in the
03:07:54.820universe in the cosmos and try to see and and observe how it works and it seems to me that
03:08:05.060it's not just like a sprinkling of the folk uh the humming but that there are holes
03:08:11.860there are whole essences that come back so there's some sort of mixture between new soul
03:08:16.900old soul or also old souls that come back but don't ever actually physically manifest but
03:08:22.660are somehow deemed to be alfar or dsir and they preside over the physical manifestation of the
03:08:28.580soul in the material in an individual like in the family and so there's uh even a there's a stopping
03:08:34.900point before the material in the in the dsir and alfar uh classification of of the spirits so
03:08:54.960You went into this a little bit, but if our knowledge and souls are dripped into the well, does that mean that Odin drinks from the knowledge of all folk?
03:09:06.000So the gods deem out the doom of men, and what this is is they're observing through Earth's well.
03:09:14.100Earth's well is the one above that observes below, which is here.
03:09:18.260But it's worth noting that Odin does not drink from that well.
03:09:22.600He drinks from Mimir's well, which is in the middle.
03:09:27.640And in essence, that's the place where the material goes.
03:09:33.620And then it descends down into the primordial, the place where there is no time,
03:09:38.440where all of the flow of primordial matter, proto-matter, flows down into Nivelheim, into the misty home, into the realm of stasis.
03:10:04.840And why it's important that the well is in the middle.
03:10:07.320that has reason that that it is there uh the reason our ancestors saw it this way is because
03:10:15.040the memory well is all movement when olden hung from the tree that's earth's well when he drank
03:10:23.660he drank from memories well mimir the godhead of time where all time and movement is flowing and
03:10:31.180condensing down into proto matter and falling down into the lower realm so he is at the nexus
03:10:37.560point of all movement in the material world all things that have happened flow there to know the
03:10:45.020future you must see the past that is where all things flow anything that moves every movement
03:10:52.300every every echo of movement every echo of light all things in the material flow to the well of
03:10:58.400memory and it causes confusion because earth's well earth as well as oftentimes they mimers will
03:11:05.440and earth's well and when we think about earth or we think about the past but what we're talking
03:11:10.560about there earth is is is the ancient the primordial the place in which things originate
03:11:17.920that is at the base of the tree that tree is the place that the cosmos originates from
03:11:25.120outside of nivelheim and muspelheim the tree itself then connects its roots down it grows and
03:11:33.760then connects the cosmos together it places one root in the ground of heaven one root in the
03:11:40.560material and one root in the land beyond nivelheim it roots itself there so the uh when the when the
03:11:49.440gods place themselves in heaven they ascend from nivelheim uh bor and uh best law they they ascend
03:12:00.960up to the tree from the root and there they take place they take presidence over the cosmos
03:12:08.080that's where the tree is the root is connected to nivelheim and then it's connected to the middle
03:12:12.800world and then it spreads out in the heavenly realm so it's very very important that we understand
03:12:19.280why they're placed the way they are so when odin drinks from the well of memory
03:12:23.680he is drinking from all that has happened because again to to project the future you know
03:12:32.000all of the past that's why like in our language we don't have a future tense like we have run and we
03:12:41.760have ran but we have will run for the future because again all things manifest from from
03:12:50.000action of the previous it's all emanating out from action from movement from time or more importantly
03:12:57.520i think the understanding is that odin learned from sound from frequency and he learned that
03:13:02.880once he died in heaven on the on the tree the nexus the heart of the circulatory system of the cosmos
03:13:11.760All right. So the actual last question for tonight. So I said that and then three questions later. So the last question we have tonight. Svan, I've been studying Norwegian. Bakmal, do you know any Norwegian? How similar is it to Icelandic?
03:13:28.000uh so uh norwegian was latin in it uh like if we were to say like uh you know like i guess like
03:13:40.300ala mother versus public things like that there you know ambulance is in norwegian um it's not
03:13:48.720in icelandic so like icelandic is very very germanically centered whereas norwegian has
03:13:55.120picked up a ton obviously mainly this is because of education and science and mathematics and
03:13:59.200things like that coming from germany germany's already got latin in it goes goes up and it
03:14:04.080goes up and so that's why it's it's transformed uh but norwegian is closer to icelandic than both
03:14:12.720i think swedish and most certainly danish danish to me
03:14:16.640i love please let me context this correctly i love the danes y'all are great people
03:14:26.340but your language though but your language
03:14:30.200is and and and and and a lot of people might be like you know screw you swan but
03:14:37.740but my my niece she moved to denmark she's a she's a citizen of denmark now and she lives
03:14:45.760in greenland now um mainly because the um it got bad in denmark let's just it got bad for a nurse
03:14:53.840in denmark female nurse so now she's in or she at least she might be back i don't know but she was
03:15:00.160for a time living in greenland anyways um the language everyone knows it i think even danes
03:15:07.440know it's very hard for them it's very hard to it's it's very very mush mushy all together um
03:15:15.760don't know why that is uh but you know and and swedish or uh uh you know video the the swedes
03:15:24.880um their language is very melodic and swing songy norwegian is is very blunt and straightforward i
03:15:33.440think it's still sing-songy but it's it definitely cuts around a lot of the corners of things um
03:15:39.920um and so it seems like i would consider icelandic to be like shakespearean like the equivalency of
03:15:49.040shakespearean english in relation to norwegian and faroese is like icelandic except grammatically
03:15:55.280it's different they they mix things up differently than the icelanders do for context so that adds
03:16:01.040more confusion but but norwegian uh i think yeah i mean uh again great i i would say it's a great
03:16:10.480language especially because you could still get closer to if you can speak norwegian then when
03:16:17.680you read the old norse it's not it's by no means like word for word but it certainly will get you
03:16:23.440better into the ballpark of understanding certain words and certain meanings of words because they
03:16:29.680still have remnants that exist in norwegian that don't even exist in english so yeah but no i'm
03:16:36.880not i i don't speak norwegian at all um i i would like to but i've been studying like dead languages
03:16:44.640more than anything like gothic and anglo-saxon are my favorite and i think the biggest hobby that i
03:16:50.240spend my time on is learning english trying to remove latin from from english to try to
03:16:56.560to, not because of, I hate Latin, I actually really enjoy it. It's just, I want to learn
03:17:03.160some of the words that were lost in English that are no longer around, so.
03:17:10.280All right. Well, I think that wraps it up for tonight's fun. It's been a good time talking
03:17:17.900to you, Medium Show. Yeah, by all means. I'm in those mountains just because they're there, sir.
03:17:25.900Just because they're there, I bring the medium power, the meh power.
03:17:46.960So I think, yeah, no, I enjoy this stuff.
03:17:51.860I hope that we hit some really interesting things because we did get to talk a lot of,
03:17:55.500uh you know about uller but there's a lot of stuff that people were hitting over here
03:17:59.580um and and remember too i think that it's worth noting um
03:18:07.980that the questions that are asked i know some people get scared about questions and things
03:18:13.980nobody's hiding we're not hiding anything so we will talk this is this is open um i think that
03:18:19.340I was here, go the, and I, and, and you all have the ability to answer questions. We're,
03:18:24.280we're professionals. We come at this from a professional mindset, but we have a very
03:18:29.720devotional heart. I think that anybody that has the patience or the humor, or at least
03:18:37.560to come and listen with an open mind could hear us as, as we are, these are, you know,
03:18:44.200this is us as as we are as people um this is what it likes when we're in the same building together
03:18:50.440right this is fun when we and connor in the same room so yeah clear that up this is what we act
03:18:58.740like right and there's no there's no uh there's again i even emphasize this without here there's
03:19:05.160no preparation for this stuff it's just us and it go but um yeah i mean i think that a lot of people
03:19:12.940ask um perhaps edgy questions or questions that are kind of like ooh i mean if you're if anybody's
03:19:21.520coming here with malice or or um miscontent um generally you know i i know nick removes people
03:19:29.220that might have malice in their intent a latin word actually no latinish again no if they're if
03:19:36.020they're coming i'll use germanic if they're coming with an evil mind evil is germanic um
03:19:42.360If they're coming with evil in their mind, yeah, Nick is really good about kind of just chucking them off.
03:19:48.320But, yeah, I mean, it's always been an open door policy.
03:19:51.600I think Al-Sheri Agoti has made it very, very clear that, you know, you have a question, you'll get it answered, whether you like the answer or not, especially with Al-Sheri Agoti.
03:20:09.500And so, you know, hey, at the same time, like, you know, you come in, you know, people like get scared about certain things or certain questions or it may seem suspicious in certain ways that they might have some evil intent or whatever.