Asatru Folk Assembly - 4⧸1⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 195 - Prose Edda： Gylfaginning, Part 6

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00:03:00.000 Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:20.100 As you might have noticed, we are still doing the guilt forgetting.

00:03:24.020 I anticipated us rocking through last week, but we have important material yet to cover.

00:03:32.680 Again, it's not a long piece, but it's a really important piece.

00:03:37.960 And one of the things we get to talk about tonight is the goddesses.

00:03:41.980 and um most people are familiar with freya and with frigg but the the other uh lesser known of

00:03:53.500 our goddesses are important to pay some attention to and i think very often they get lumped into

00:03:59.820 oh the 12 you know handmaidens of frid and that's not wrong but when you lump

00:04:07.580 So when you lump something like that, and I'm already starting with my rabbit trails, but I think they're important. When you lump people, persons together in that way, it's hard to flesh out an individual understanding or an individual relationship with each of these goddesses, especially when the material is rather slim.

00:04:34.160 one and you know i think it's kind of the same way we you know we run into with a number of

00:04:39.280 our heroes almost as if you say them in the same breath and so i like to when i can separate things

00:04:46.800 out and i like to make sure tonight we're gonna have enough time to mention them each individually

00:04:54.080 and talk about them each a little bit individually and it's interesting this is kind of a

00:04:59.360 something that spawn and i discussed when i was going over um you know how we were going to write

00:05:07.100 this part up in the truly model um yeah just having some of those discussions about the

00:05:16.160 associations with each of these with each of these goddesses and you know a little bit more detail

00:05:22.340 about what their name means and you know what some of the significance that they can have for

00:05:29.860 our modern worship so it's going to be a good show tonight um again we're not going to rush it on on

00:05:36.660 this one so stay tuned for that um i think at the top of the show stuff for everybody um

00:05:53.300 You guys are awesome.

00:05:54.840 You guys' generosity continues to impress, as it always does.

00:05:59.040 Making progress on some things.

00:06:00.820 Wanted to give you the weekly, and specifically, I guess, today,

00:06:04.460 the monthly update on where we're at with paying off phrase-off.

00:06:09.620 So we are at, we owe $78,078.

00:06:17.680 You guys are awesome.

00:06:19.800 We appreciate it.

00:06:20.740 if you guys are interested in um in helping with that we always appreciate it and you can do that

00:06:30.420 at donate our runestone.org donate and that'll get you where you can donate to any of our causes

00:06:41.540 that we're raising money for you guys have been you know and continue to be amazing with that

00:06:46.980 so we appreciate it we also today donated our quarterly contribution towards helping

00:06:55.700 our folk that are in south africa and that's particularly important to us it is

00:07:04.420 members of our folk that are

00:07:08.340 have been mistreated for quite some time it is typically not popular to

00:07:15.220 acknowledge their mistreatment and acknowledge that it is specifically ethnically targeted

00:07:20.100 against our folk um so it's always good to help those folks out uh i don't claim that

00:07:25.780 we have the perfect fix for things but we did start um i don't know if it's 2017 i don't know

00:07:33.940 at some point we decided you know we'll do something and we'll try to help out so collectively

00:07:38.820 the afa raises money every quarter we'll pay that money out towards a charity that is helping our

00:07:46.500 folk over there very often with food insecurity so we're able to do that again today thank you

00:07:51.780 for everybody who donated to it and i was running a number was a little bit stuttery there over our

00:07:57.460 phrase off thing because nick didn't update on it and i wanted to run the math if every member

00:08:02.500 member of the AFA, we're going to donate $106 right now. We'll instantly be paid off of

00:08:09.100 Fraze Hoff. A couple other while we're on fundraising stuff. Mandy and I have been here

00:08:19.200 in Tennessee in lovely Jackson County for almost two months now, and I'm getting settled,

00:08:29.640 getting kind of stuff going on beautifying and taking care of the Sitterhand property

00:08:36.400 and preparing the planning and groundwork and just kind of getting things in order for Tiershoff.

00:08:45.760 To move on Tiershoff, Tiershoff is going to be the first purpose-built hoff of the Oustre Folk Assembly.

00:08:53.600 It's an entirely different animal than getting an existent religious building and repurposing it. 0.86

00:09:00.400 This is going to be from the ground up a temple to Lord Teer.

00:09:06.580 It gives us opportunities to put in a lot of labor and a lot of the construction of it ourself,

00:09:12.680 which is a really special thing to do and an opportunity for AFA friends and members to be able to contribute and help out,

00:09:20.820 which is always a nice thing.

00:09:23.060 And it gives us, I don't know, another way to imbue that with our devotion.

00:09:30.900 But building a new structure from the ground is much more expensive than finding a good deal on a building that there's very little market for somewhere else.

00:09:42.200 So I think that the costs in that are probably a little bit more than we used to on some other stuff.

00:09:47.480 Got different plans. We'll see how it comes.

00:09:49.680 one of the options is us taking out a loan for the entirety and paying it off over time,

00:09:56.960 kind of like we do with all of the other Hoffs. If that happens, we're waiting until we have paid off

00:10:02.880 Freyshoff before we can do that. So that's just something to keep in mind on, you know,

00:10:08.640 what's at the end of that road on paying off Freyshoff. Another idea, if we can, and we'll see

00:10:16.160 depending on what we got to work with is being able to do it piece by piece by piece if we can

00:10:22.400 do it that way we can raise money for individual steps of the project and we could do that

00:10:26.960 concurrently if that becomes available so just keeping you guys abreast of the situation there

00:10:33.360 um before we get well okay so you guys are able to follow along tonight we will be reading out

00:10:41.600 of the guild beginning um nick do you know what chapter we're on off top of your head

00:10:48.160 35 i believe 35 so we'll be starting number 35 i say chapter section 35 it's not really

00:10:57.440 a stanza in this work um but yeah we'll be starting that we are reading off of the translation that's

00:11:05.840 at thelospow.org you're welcome to follow along in whatever translation you have um so feel free

00:11:13.120 to go there and gw farnsworth as always you're starting us off with the generosity we appreciate

00:11:19.120 it so much 25 towards the thorshoff heat 25 towards paying off the sigerhang property thank

00:11:27.520 you for that we appreciate it uh also steven in japan another very frequent donor to us we

00:11:35.840 appreciate you so much steven five dollars towards the thor's hof heat ten dollars towards paying

00:11:41.120 off phrase hof much appreciated and gilbert um again we got very consistent donors that

00:11:48.160 do so much for us gilbert donated 150 towards that thor's hof

00:11:52.480 me um yeah that's amazing thank you thank all you guys we appreciate you so much um

00:12:03.280 i think that's what we've got for the top of the program today um

00:12:13.680 yeah i don't think there's any prep work folks need to get right into the text tonight i think

00:12:18.960 it's kind of uh self-explanatory it's fun if you could kind of pause at the end of each of these

00:12:27.840 goddesses because again it's not like a section break so you know if you can do that so we can

00:12:34.800 digest or address any any questions or points on that and uh yeah with that thank you all for

00:12:41.680 joining us tonight and spawn take us into the text if you will yes sir oh and i did want to say uh

00:12:48.800 pronunciation of the goddesses their names for those that we a lot of people struggle

00:12:58.880 so we're going to be covering that too and i'm just reminding everyone if you got a chance

00:13:03.720 please write down the holy goddesses names and if you need to uh how they're pronounced

00:13:09.740 so that way we can start correcting culture back towards the uh the old norse pronunciations and

00:13:17.040 things like that so so um a note on that we are we're doing our best um you may run into different

00:13:31.080 things so nobody knows exactly how old norse used to sound there's a lot of theories um back tracing

00:13:41.160 like the evolution of of language and there are experts with different theories and ideas about

00:13:48.000 how it might have sounded linguistically it is mutually intelligible with modern Icelandic

00:13:54.080 so you may run into words and pronunciations that uh Dr. Jackson Crawford might pronounce

00:14:02.320 differently because he's one that has some different linguistic theories

00:14:05.700 he is lettered in that i'm not going to take away from his expertise but those are theoretical

00:14:11.600 so when in doubt we kind of err on the side of modern icelandic pronunciation of old norse

00:14:21.660 um don't claim perfection but we are doing our best with it um feather in our cap and a little

00:14:28.040 bit of nod to legitimacy is uh my co-host is a a a son of of iceland and he has he has feasted

00:14:36.700 upon the rotten shark so he is he is imbued through decayed shark with linguistic knowledge 0.68

00:14:44.620 of his ancestors when i move to tennessee i'm gonna bring some how carl and we're gonna eat

00:14:51.580 it together. Probably the same exact piece that you grew up with. Cut from the same shark. Once

00:14:59.780 it's rotten, you know, I don't. They just take a little nibble over Thorabla and there you go.

00:15:06.400 Next year. So I don't know if anybody has tried that, but used to always when I got involved in

00:15:12.800 Austria, that was kind of the fun thing is people would get some of this rotten shark from Iceland

00:15:17.840 and then they you know everybody'd have like a little tiny taste of it at thor gloat and run

00:15:23.440 around finding it disgusting and trying to wash it down with some brenovan um

00:15:27.600 yeah so i've had it it's gross but you kind of want it to be i think you'd be disappointed if

00:15:34.540 you had it like it wasn't so um one thing to uh the old norse and why we are we are utilizing

00:15:45.200 and making an effort to reach into correct, correct pronunciation. Um, if you look at all,

00:15:53.580 I've been practicing house true since, uh, 1994, I've been devoted to the gods. I, I took, um, my,

00:16:01.000 my oath of professing or professing, um, to the gods. And, uh, I didn't always use old Norse as

00:16:12.920 primary ecclesiastical language um i kind of did as everyone does um in america and um

00:16:23.400 so i think a lot of people might get it into their heads that i'm the reason there's the push for

00:16:28.920 this but the reality is is no matter what branch you you may see uh anglo-saxons the that are

00:16:37.560 trying to do their own thing or um normani or uh gothic or uh even modern german like the uh

00:16:48.200 the uh airman gestational shaft uh folks and no matter what any one of those tendrils that you go

00:16:55.240 down they are pulling from old norse and if you go and look you you can't take five steps without

00:17:05.320 old norse because it is our most concrete and substantial body of lore that survived the

00:17:13.080 christian overtake of europe and its slow progression um so alziragoti has decreed

00:17:21.640 in this sense and i think this is a very wise thing for our children and for our future we

00:17:27.640 should not look at it in separate groups but instead in the in the timeline of itself this

00:17:35.400 is the last step off this is where the main body of lore is and so now as our children look back

00:17:42.360 they're not going to get confused and say well oh well daddy taught me that his name is voton

00:17:48.520 uh but here it's it's old or odin or or what have you so there is a great need for consistency and

00:17:56.360 clarity and i think so yeah just a note on that and this is not spawn nerding out about his

00:18:04.040 memories of the rotten shark this is it's something that i think is really important and it's

00:18:09.960 something that um i think that maybe you appreciate the importance over the years that you've been

00:18:17.800 doing it but it's again all the source material go you know 90 plus percent of the source material

00:18:25.320 goes back to the old norse and in reading it sometimes it makes a substantial difference

00:18:33.640 and it's funny as you know complete amateurs as we are at it the more that we pick up in our

00:18:40.760 efforts the more when we're reading the lore we notice things that are important and make a

00:18:45.560 difference um and you know different translators at different time had access to less things than

00:18:54.680 we do now but i forget where it was but we've run into translations where you know straight up

00:19:01.960 say frig when the text says freya right um now i think that even somebody who doesn't speak

00:19:07.720 old norse if you look at the text you would see the difference in the original language

00:19:12.840 but you do pick up um you do pick up differences the other thing is consistency

00:19:18.680 um one of the things going on in australia for a very long time is you have this uneasy combination

00:19:27.320 of modern english old english icelandic german uh swedish continental german um

00:19:41.160 mismatch of a lot of different things you get that with uh customs you get it with the deities

00:19:47.400 and you get it with a lot of different things and it produces confusion when you have

00:19:51.640 overlap so linguistically you know modern English is always fine nobody's out to give

00:20:00.600 you know go with what you're comfortable with that's fine even you know German or whatever

00:20:06.440 you do that's fine but as the AFA when we're presenting and trying to teach and present this

00:20:13.320 to our folk into the world we want to do it in a way that's consistent and in a way that is is

00:20:19.560 unified and i found um though we're tying together a far-flung people with far-flung traditions

00:20:28.520 being able to do it in a way where the pieces fit and match up syncretically it increases the momentum

00:20:37.320 and the potency of what we do the things align we take the chaos that we find and we shape order

00:20:43.240 out of it and we bring that order back into it um the other thing and nick pointed this out

00:20:48.840 you know we could have done this site if the same would be true if we did this all in german

00:20:54.360 we did it all in anglo-saxon if we did it all in um you know norwegian book model or we did whatever

00:21:02.200 but picking one and going with it is important and Old Norse is where our lore comes from

00:21:08.740 and importantly the Norse context is that's the context that the Allfather brought this

00:21:19.600 to our founder that is the context the cultural expression the linguistics that's what was

00:21:30.100 presented to our founder steve mcnallan way back in you know way back in the 1960s so

00:21:38.020 that's what's brought us to the dance and those are some of the reasons that we're sticking with

00:21:42.100 it but it's fun without further ado if you would start uh section oh all right further ado jared

00:21:51.300 and virginia donated a hundred dollars towards thoris hofke thank you jared we appreciate it

00:21:55.540 And with that, would you bring us into, what, section 35?

00:22:01.020 All right.

00:22:07.500 Okay.

00:22:09.800 Of the goddesses. 0.98

00:22:14.340 Then said Ganglering, which are the aus senior? 1.00

00:22:20.560 Howard said, Frigg is the foremost.

00:22:25.540 She has that estate, which is called Fensallr, or the glimmering moors, the glimmering wetlands.

00:22:38.160 And it is most glorious.

00:22:40.620 The second is Sauga. 1.00

00:22:44.700 She dwells at Sokva Bekkur, and that is a great abode.

00:22:51.400 so right out the gate um obviously there are the two predominant goddesses in our faith

00:23:00.140 and we kind of view them in that sense uh so frig is established did you want me to stop

00:23:09.140 at every goddess in the text or at the end of the section

00:23:13.000 that's the thing about this the way it lays it out but i would like us to say

00:23:19.580 a little piece about it let me pull up the trulimo on it yeah while you do that um

00:23:33.260 you know to context for people there is something you're going to notice about the

00:23:38.820 and why the construction in other attempts to formulate our religion uh there have been

00:23:49.240 groups and there are still groups attempting to do it um and what they're doing again is trying

00:23:55.720 to present a way to bring some of the uh not so much the chaos but just the it's not laid out and

00:24:03.960 they want to lay it out for you and what they end up doing is they don't differentiate key concepts

00:24:11.480 sometimes. And in this, we clearly are using the Gilbeginning as our base of lore for our

00:24:20.300 theological framework. So in this list, you'll notice the wife of Thor is not there, Sif,

00:24:29.280 and or skadi or uh uh yard you know again the mentioning of and the idea of who's a yotan

00:24:42.140 who is an our senior and and then there is these these others as they and again it it purposely

00:24:50.880 alienates where i think it's beneficial for people to try to paint this idea that the others

00:24:57.240 are somehow a completely different race.

00:25:02.200 They're trying to create this false paradigm

00:25:06.700 that the gods are mixing with peoples

00:25:12.040 from outside of themselves, 1.00

00:25:14.140 when in reality, the Jotuns are, I guess,

00:25:19.980 or again, even Lord Odin and his descendancy. 1.00

00:25:25.820 And then they don't differentiate Daltons of Nivelheim or Muspelheim or Midgard because they want to create this kind of false framework.

00:25:36.920 And so sometimes they call them yachting brides. And I think that ultimately, as they are joining the gods, they are shifting from a mode in the universe as beings of non-biological willful intent of great power.

00:25:59.340 They are moving from one team to another.

00:26:04.280 That doesn't mean that the other team is completely an alien.

00:26:08.260 They are of the same source, the ancient beings, and that's what Jotans really are.

00:26:14.160 They join the gods, and instead of calling them troll brides or Jotan brides or some sort of other, the word Austvenir is used.

00:26:26.540 So that's a thing. A Norwegian marrying a Dane is a different order of thing than a Norwegian marrying a Tutsi or some other order of being. 0.92

00:26:50.720 so in the uh just kind of pieces here and we'll and we'll do this um so from the from the true

00:27:02.280 woodmill frig's name means beloved mother frig is the wife of odin and the queen of the isere

00:27:09.380 frig's divine femininity is exemplified within social order as the noble lady of the hall

00:27:17.020 as a dutiful wife and as a loving mother. 0.92

00:27:20.880 Wives, mothers, and ladies of station

00:27:23.140 look to Frigg's example.

00:27:26.220 Men often look to Frigg for comfort and warmth.

00:27:34.240 I am frustrated with this.

00:27:37.120 I don't know if anybody has ever written stuff.

00:27:39.480 Every single time I read the document,

00:27:42.820 I catch a typo that needs fixing.

00:27:44.980 Oh, no.

00:27:47.020 well there's another point that is not so differentiated in the gil beginning here we

00:27:57.440 will notice that there is um kind of a mashing together so what we try to do is imagine much

00:28:09.260 like the turtle brooches that um nordic women wore in the past that uh the two brooches that support

00:28:20.380 and hold everything together are frig and freya or through yeah if you're a crawford person

00:28:29.500 you had mentioned like the theories of of things and one of the his is that ey is like a sound but

00:28:35.980 but it's not really nobody knows um but the the idea that the two turtle brooches the two main

00:28:45.260 uh divine feminine is frig and and freya and this is juxtaposed or or i don't know not even

00:28:56.980 juxtaposed just in comparison to the masculine where we have the tripartite or or the three

00:29:04.240 um the uh and we see it in the in the names of the days of our weeks tuesday wednesday thursday

00:29:11.060 um you know and the and the nordic people will say oh you guys are larping as vikings but you're

00:29:18.620 not discounting the fact that it's clear that it was a pan-germanic religion um but nobody else

00:29:25.940 have steak on it anymore um yeah so you it's uh the masculine is built in a tripartite in leadership

00:29:35.160 or or um focus and just like that there is a duality focus in the feminine um and these are

00:29:43.660 unique to each other in the masculine and feminine and i think it's important to look at it notice it

00:29:49.040 So that's why the emphasis on the two major goddesses and then the maidens of Fensaler and then the Ausvenir, the most beloved or because Vinir means like friend.

00:30:05.260 So Anastvinir is like a, is just the, a beloved friend or a beloved companion. And it gives them honor without calling them, you know, oh, these are the, the mail order brides.

00:30:20.260 I mean, that's kind of the value that they kind of put when they say like the Yotin brides. 1.00

00:30:28.380 And they also, again, want to keep that separation, just like they want to separate the Vanir. 0.99

00:30:34.980 It's all an attempt to dissect the gods, which in reality, I don't think they even truly believe in. 0.98

00:30:44.320 that it's because they're again these are proto-indo-european Aryan gods who came in and 0.89

00:30:50.720 took us so we're we're gonna dissect things and make it you know more kosher and so you end up 0.97

00:30:56.880 oh well I was gonna say that and Sarah brings it up um Githya alt brings it up in the uh

00:31:03.820 in the chat but I think this is important one of the things to note with the polarity between

00:31:09.700 Frigg and Freya is the difference in Aryan religion between cow and horse goddesses and

00:31:22.380 there are different sides to femininity that are exemplified with different emphasis and

00:31:33.280 different ways and i think that's kind of a unique station that um women find in life

00:31:42.320 and in you know in the social order and frig is very much the the exemplar of the the cow goddess 0.99

00:31:53.040 stat status of the femininity within social structure with dignity with um the propriety 1.00

00:32:02.560 of wife mother in the station of having that very domestic um socially binding role that's

00:32:14.240 very important and you know she displays that she displays it in you know it's it's regal um

00:32:21.680 regal proportions um and we'll talk a little bit more about freya when we get to her but

00:32:28.480 But remember, when we do get to her, she exemplifies more of the horse guides.

00:32:33.620 So you also mentioned in the section that you read, because again, they're all going to come quickly, you mentioned Sauga.

00:32:43.760 So from the true and wrong, Sauga's name means the seeress.

00:32:49.420 She drinks daily with Lord Odin.

00:32:52.360 There they share stories of heroes and drink in gladness.

00:32:56.900 Saga is the keeper of lore and history, she is the teller of tales, the recaller of deeds.

00:33:02.900 Saga takes notice, she remembers.

00:33:05.900 Saga is the patroness of history and genealogy.

00:33:08.900 So, one of the things that was really important in just going through and nerding out our language,

00:33:23.380 because we play fast and loose with the little apostrophes over letters and stuff

00:33:29.700 we get different meanings and this is one of the cases that's really important everybody

00:33:33.700 reads her name as saga which you know is a um i guess biographical telling um

00:33:44.980 but her name actually means serious like prophetess seeing into the future

00:33:50.980 so much of her modern worship and lore is based under the you know her role as historian and i

00:33:58.820 don't think that's illegitimate and clearly when you find that close of a linguistic connection

00:34:02.900 there's often overlap in the deep etymology of it but her role as foretelling and seeing the

00:34:13.940 the connectivity of the skein of of erther as it plays out i think is very relevant and very

00:34:24.420 important when we when we think about it and also a lot of looking at the very word cirrus

00:34:32.980 the seer is a is a seer they uh the in the past sense or or the um account sense of history and

00:34:46.000 the the telling of the stories or the knowing of all of that is by witnessing and then the

00:34:54.720 mystical and beautiful and divine part that goes beyond even our comprehension is the ability to

00:35:01.960 witness that which is coming out of or what could come out of the actions in the present so i think

00:35:11.740 you know a lot of people get twisted up in the in the conceptualization oh no she's the goddess of

00:35:18.500 genealogy or she's the goddess of stories or or what have you uh and these guys are saying she's

00:35:25.140 Asiris, well, much like battle is to all the gods, there are many goddesses who are spoken of as

00:35:34.400 having the sight to see forward. And I think it all really does come down to seeing and witnessing

00:35:43.000 both the past, the present, and the future, and why Lord Othyn seeks to sit with her and drink.

00:35:52.660 now there's another thing that also comes up and there's a this i wanted to do this because in the

00:35:57.520 true law mall and why the guild beginning is so important to the the framework of our faith um

00:36:04.300 she is not mentioned in the grimness mall and at with the list of the goddesses and this has led

00:36:12.240 some room for people to go oh well then maybe she's actually just another side of freak and um

00:36:21.940 I don't think that's a good enough reason, 0.58

00:36:23.680 but that's really the only reason why they do it.

00:36:29.560 I don't know if the intention is to, you know,

00:36:34.680 why is Lord Odin sitting with Saoga to pick her brain

00:36:41.000 and speak with lore with her and not his wife?

00:36:45.240 And they're trying to create some sort of paradigm,

00:36:47.660 And forgetting that, I mean, again, our connectivities, the way that we show the gods interconnecting is a way that we can relate to.

00:36:59.820 So the other point of this being is that they use just a little bit of a fragment or something missing to fill in their own spots.

00:37:12.180 You've got to be careful with people doing that.

00:37:14.200 That's disingenuous.

00:37:16.660 I've noticed it both in the scholarly sense and also in the scholars who are

00:37:22.500 trying to formulate some of their own religious ideas. They do the same thing with these

00:37:28.820 translations and then they bank on people not reading or looking at these translations and

00:37:38.100 they can push these ideas. That's why the Astro Folk Assembly has always said we don't have a

00:37:44.020 preferenced translation. You should read them all. And the reason the difference between

00:37:51.640 scholars and us is that we are interpreting from a religious standpoint with sincerity

00:38:01.060 in belief in the gods. So our attempts at understanding the literature, which is flawed,

00:38:08.740 It does have missing parts. There are things that sometimes I think might have been dropped

00:38:14.940 simply because they threw off the poetic meter. We are attempting to look at all of these things

00:38:23.360 to create clarity and give respect. And I think a lot of scholars don't do that. They formulate

00:38:31.840 ideas. They cram the gods into little boxes and squares without any considerations or giving

00:38:38.660 really any reasoning. And you'll find this when you look up Sauga, where it is this kind of

00:38:48.080 concept that she might be another part of Frigg. And as Al-Zirgeli said, one of the great powers

00:38:55.720 of the, in the cow goddess sense, is the importance of the power that the feminine gains

00:39:06.980 when they give oaths. So children don't give oaths in society. They are underneath their 0.98

00:39:16.740 parents' charge. Men must give oaths to sacrifice their life in defense of the whole. And women who

00:39:25.520 show up and marry, this is the first transaction of oathing and that kind of, I will join into 0.99

00:39:36.000 this i will commit to this and that brings them into societal station and that's why they uh were

00:39:45.120 so uh strong in in uh norse and germanic society so that's one of the things that you'll see is

00:39:55.040 the the frig substantiation is about power level based on oaths oafing in oafing up into the strata

00:40:09.320 of um society and making new society literally through the birthing is a huge point um

00:40:21.560 oh go ahead okay whereas and this is no less than uh holy freya in her

00:40:32.520 kind of sense is incomplete where the the the gods have like olden and and uh frig

00:40:44.840 Thor Sif, but there's Freyja and Odr has fallen off. And what this kind of makes is a,

00:40:55.160 like a magnet or something looking for a polarity. There is a pull just as much as there is a push

00:41:02.760 with Freyja, and she is no longer bound by these oaths that a woman would have

00:41:12.520 in society but she then becomes one that's pulling other things and oftentimes in the

00:41:20.440 stories it manifests as other yachtins constantly trying to link that point so let's let's save that

00:41:29.560 until we get all right yeah all right we're jumping the gun a little bit and i'm gonna

00:41:34.040 i'm we're gonna flip the script a little bit here and i'm gonna do the reading for the next

00:41:37.720 little bit because it's just like a sentence here and a sentence there and a sentence here

00:41:41.000 and it doesn't really make sense. So I'm going to read the sentence in the little blurb in the

00:41:48.040 Gilfoginning and we can say a bit about each of each of these ladies as we get there.

00:41:55.080 Third is Eir. She is the best physician. From the Trulugmal, Eir's name means mercy.

00:42:02.840 She helps and heals. We pray to her for healing of the mind, body, and soul.

00:42:09.960 air is the patroness of doctors and medicine so in modern times i think one of the

00:42:18.440 one of these maidens of fensiler that are is and has really caught on in the in the popular

00:42:26.120 consciousness of our folk is air in this time we have so many people that deal with different health

00:42:32.120 struggles there has been a consistent um effort to worship air to make offerings

00:42:42.120 to hail her during symbol and to build relationship that way she is

00:42:52.200 yeah i was gonna say i think she is probably the best known of the you know as we would call the

00:42:58.840 maintenance of fence hour but i think especially in this time where

00:43:06.200 so many of the struggles that our people face are you know there was a time where a lot of

00:43:11.320 the struggles were battlefield related or were famine and crop related right now a lot of

00:43:17.960 struggles because if we live long enough they all start to catch up with us as various health

00:43:22.280 struggles um but something to be said for that it's you know certainly traditional like i broke

00:43:30.360 my arm stuff but also help with healing of um of mental anguish and things of ill health

00:43:42.840 psychologically um and at different times we have people dealing with that at different levels too

00:43:48.840 and also

00:43:55.800 one thing that we bring up on the show a lot that is a common theme is the soul sickness of our

00:44:01.080 people and it displays in a lot of different ways but i think she interfaces with the

00:44:08.360 healing of that in a way too when we talk about mind and spirit in there so it's fun anything to

00:44:15.960 add one here uh i yeah i mean i it's sad in the sense that i think as our uh people are sickened

00:44:25.880 by those who are consolidating all the food production in in uh to small choke points um

00:44:36.120 and that sickness is flowing into our people um one of the big things that i think air is

00:44:45.960 she is doing and is a active and willful part of the return to cleaner eating, the return to 0.53

00:44:55.180 that diet is medicine. And one of the things that I think that people should look at if they're

00:45:04.360 interested in building these connections is looking at medicine and how medicine is described

00:45:11.660 and utilized by our ancestors, the idea of the leech craft.

00:45:19.500 The leech craft, and obviously the worm is named after actually the medicinal sense

00:45:28.180 and what it was used in.

00:45:29.700 It was used in medicine craft.

00:45:33.520 The worm is, it's not the craft of the worm, it's the craft of medicine.

00:45:39.820 And the worm was utilized, so they called it a leech. But they also called the leek and the garlic or garlic. And I think that is a huge thing when we start looking at their health benefits and diet and the absorption of nutrition is a huge part of the overview of her of her dominion.

00:46:06.540 It's not simply like a, like a pharmaceutical thing or something like that. Um, so, you know,

00:46:13.900 and I always like to pretend that when the folk come home and we have, um, the, the gods of our

00:46:22.160 people and the nation as a people together as one, uh, there would be statues to her, um, uh,

00:46:32.680 all over at every hospital but um i think it's important there's a reason why one of the rivers

00:46:40.040 in heaven is called the garlic river and um flowing through either wall it's mentioned in

00:46:47.720 the grimness mouth and this river and the point of it being is its connection to healing um

00:46:56.520 but that's i mean you covered everything well so something i didn't cover that

00:47:02.680 Githyalt is asking, what is the connection between Eir and Lithuabird, the healing mountain?

00:47:14.680 And it's mentioned in Fieldsvensmall about her residing there and it being a place where offerings are brought and people are healed.

00:47:29.280 Well, one of the things is we see this elsewhere. There is a deep, there are two things that in our body of lore we don't really cover, mainly because the construction of our lore was built around keeping poetic integrity.

00:47:50.460 but we get these little glimpses of other things and then they're never addressed for instance the

00:47:56.780 island off the coast of holland or uh um maybe it's holland belgium i think it's holland um

00:48:06.700 that is completely dedicated to force so uh i believe that these power spots so that our

00:48:17.980 ancestors and what i'm implying is is that these little glimpses that we get through this is that

00:48:24.540 there are physical places holy sites uh throughout the world where the gods are

00:48:32.060 deeply connected there whether it's a a thinning of the um space between the divine and the material

00:48:41.340 or if it's that they are able to manifest there

00:48:46.580 or have chosen to manifest there

00:48:49.280 or whatever it may be,

00:48:50.480 I believe this is, again, another mentioning

00:48:53.540 of the holy site.

00:48:56.860 And that by no means does it mean it's the only one.

00:49:01.800 It's just that, especially at the time

00:49:04.380 that the poem was being constructed,

00:49:07.160 it clearly is.

00:49:08.420 And so they make mention.

00:49:10.060 um so i would like to um get into the next one here but before we do scott in ohio donated ten

00:49:19.180 dollars each to phrase off to the south africa fund and to the prison minister thank you for

00:49:25.500 that we appreciate it scott and isaac in missouri donated 25 to the general fund thank you isaac

00:49:33.580 we appreciate it. Next up, the fourth is Gevion. She is a virgin and they that die maidens attend

00:49:46.000 her. From the Truenal, Gevion is the giver. That's what her name means. She watches over young girls 0.99

00:49:54.720 and maidens of our folk. Gevion is a comfort to those who feel alone. Gevion is the patroness

00:50:02.640 of virgins and of land taking um yeah anybody who is unfamiliar about the land taking situation um

00:50:15.360 there's a story that uh she and her giant children i know that contradicts the fact that she was

00:50:24.480 mentioned being a virgin but i want to mention something on that too um take the form of oxen

00:50:32.160 and with a big plow they break off a chunk of europe that forms zealand so

00:50:39.360 often she is one of the one of the deities that's mentioned or or worshiped during when

00:50:46.160 we charm the plow at uh at these so something to when the depiction gets contradictory or odd

00:51:02.160 don't remember that a lot of us come from a very very literalist background these things are not

00:51:13.740 meant to be that literally they're meant to be expressions of cosmic truth in language and

00:51:20.980 circumstance that folk understand. So, um, when we talk about sexuality amongst the gods,

00:51:33.500 it evokes a lot of things in us as humans. It evokes, uh, you know, passion and connection

00:51:43.180 and lust and love perhaps and a certain closeness and a primal exchange a lot of different things

00:51:53.980 that we all have that help us understand the concept better but i think when we picture

00:51:59.580 larger than life vikings engaged in lovemaking i think that's not the literal how the things work

00:52:08.580 I think we're talking about the coupling of divine forces in a way that probably is beyond our reckoning or our ability to depict.

00:52:21.760 So I think that when we get really, really specific on the point of it, that misses the point.

00:52:28.240 I don't think that gods necessarily need to, you know, they can create out of nothingness.

00:52:35.660 they can couple they can do a lot of things but um so her two or her uh four sons that do this 0.86

00:52:44.300 plowing it don't trouble yourself over much with yeah but i thought it says that she's a virgin

00:52:50.300 there that kind of misses some of the point of well being a source of comfort to those that find

00:52:59.020 themselves lonely that don't have that connection that have never known that connection or that you

00:53:04.060 know live their life in that solitude that don't experience that sometimes

00:53:08.920 they're they're members of the folk that

00:53:14.100 for a variety of means sometimes medical sometimes other stuff

00:53:20.080 live their life isolated and that you know very fundamental human connection of sexuality is not

00:53:27.020 mayor for them that's a relating thing her uh being a comfort to those those folk i think is

00:53:36.860 very relevant in this day and age uh into our ancestors as well swan um a couple of other

00:53:46.060 things that people kind of get lost in one is that um it comes from the uh heimskringla

00:53:54.460 and that is a compilation and specifically the ing linga saga the the story of the swedish kings

00:54:07.400 and where they come from all of the gods are deeply euhemorized they are made very human not

00:54:16.260 so bad as say like saxo grammaticus who was openly antagonistic towards the uh religion of his of his

00:54:24.400 forefathers. But there are things in that story that are placed about. And it goes much to say

00:54:35.860 that the understanding of things may have been miscued. And on top of this, there is

00:54:45.420 a scholar by the name of John Lindau who suggests, because we also forget that

00:54:52.780 Snorri Sturluson compiling, reviewing, clarifying and keeping things together, but there were multiple

00:55:04.220 writers doing the work and that leaves room for error. And Lindau believes that the

00:55:15.260 possibility is that that section of the story was written um and somehow kind of missed review

00:55:24.220 and was from there on in i don't know if i believe that but i definitely think the

00:55:30.380 euhemorization creates a point where they place the gods in overly um realistic situations like

00:55:45.660 the connections to troy or what have you but this is again in the in a in a saga about sweden

00:55:52.460 that it's mentioned that her her children um bring the the are or the oxen that she brings

00:56:03.340 are her children and that association is made here not but that she does bring the oxen and

00:56:11.260 that they are jotuns shaped um they uh i think it's it's it's kind of strange in that sense that

00:56:20.380 a lot of people kind of immediately start to try to carve things up they do it with the um lokasana

00:56:26.540 where uh loki says that it doesn't take much for her but like a necklace for her to throw her arms

00:56:33.420 around someone um but and they immediately apply that to the idea that that's somehow strictly

00:56:39.980 sexual but he is very much attacking just her integrity um and that he has no problem making

00:56:48.940 it very sexual with the other goddesses so i think that's telling as well but um one thing that i

00:56:55.820 would also point out and this is kind of leaning back to what we were talking about before the the

00:57:00.780 horse or the mare and the the the um cow um and we clearly see even this point playing out through

00:57:13.260 all the goddesses each one of the goddesses to some degree is uh kind of of one ideal

00:57:23.580 or another i'm not trying to say definitively but you can kind of see it and i think in this case it

00:57:29.020 is very much um uh understood there was a land taking in one of the icelandic sagas where a

00:57:38.140 woman her husband had died on the way over to iceland and she had made it and so she took land

00:57:46.860 by running a cow over the on the borders of the land to uh signify her taking of it and we can

00:57:57.260 clearly see that connection of the oxen or the or the cattle to claiming pastorial land and um

00:58:06.060 I think that's very, very important. Her name means the giving, the giving one. And with her connection to land and giving, I've often talked about how I believe that the gods first, that gods are with us, whether we read the sagas and the Aedas, they manifest yet still in our blood.

00:58:34.000 And I definitely think that the spirit of manifest destiny is the best example of the gods manifesting in our blood, despite simply the Nordic lens. 0.50

00:58:47.860 It's the post-pagan heart of our people after Christianity. The promise of the giving land, the maiden, the virgin maiden, so unclaimed, is also kind of, again, metaphorical to the land.

00:59:11.000 And it's all of the possibilities that the land can give forth as you claim it.

00:59:19.780 So kind of that attraction of the West, the song of the beautiful maiden drawing you further in.

00:59:27.720 And again, the maiden represents all the potential of that land and what that land can give.

00:59:33.660 The fruits bearing forth.

00:59:34.860 so um you literally described that and it makes me think of columbia precisely yes i was going

00:59:43.800 with columbia yeah columbia as well now of course columbia does have immediate attachment attachments

00:59:51.180 to another aryan religious structure the hellenics but you know those connections are are you'll we

01:00:01.100 will find them often throughout the goddesses though they're not greatly expanded upon like

01:00:07.940 the the there's a goddess coming up named clean and there is uh slight nods or connections or

01:00:15.640 points that we can make uh looking or overlaying them to say uh the etruscan goddess minerva um

01:00:23.740 And so as we go through the lists of the goddesses, think about the idea of the solid, the cow, the connection to expansion and order, and then there is the mare goddess, the ones who are free and wild.

01:00:44.000 But the idea again is about movement. It is about the movement that makes things happen and the movement to instigate things from far away. It's society versus kind of stepping over thresholds, liminal spaces, going through other places.

01:01:05.280 The mare and the horse is always associated with movement, whether it's the horses of the sun and of the day and the night and so on and so forth.

01:01:16.780 And then there is the cattle, which is their movement is always grounded in the earth, in creation, in formulation. 0.97

01:01:28.780 And even, of course, later in the story of the creation of Zeeland, that Gevion takes Zeeland with the four Jotin cattle.

01:01:43.820 I'm actually of the mindset, too, that whether they were euhemorizing or not, this is one of those things that is like another mix-up, just like we find with Lord Vauli, where many people try to say that Loki has two sons, Vauli and Nyarvi, and that that's a misnomer. 0.79

01:02:08.060 It is Vauli, the god, who turns into a wolf to slay his son.

01:02:14.000 And the same goes in this sense where we have the four Jotins who come to help her and the additions of the son's part.

01:02:27.640 But as Al-Syregoli said, if we get too attached in these things, then we have to take these euhemerizations of the gods literally.

01:02:36.980 And that's not on multiple levels the way you should correlate with the divine.

01:02:46.500 And those euhemorizations are kind of picked and choosed.

01:02:50.580 In the same saga, it is said that the king of Sweden is Njordr, Lord of Waters, and then Lord Odin becomes the king.

01:03:03.360 And then he must be wounded so that he can go to his god. And then after that, the king Frodi comes in. And if you take that literally, that's very confusing for people.

01:03:17.880 But if you look at it as what I really truly believe it is, these are the cults of worship of these gods in power in Sweden that develop the royal families of Sweden.

01:03:30.900 It makes a lot more sense. And they're specifically talking about an Odinic point of that cult of worship about being pierced and not dying of old age as part of the Odinic cult of worship.

01:03:46.600 And then the cult of Frey comes into power afterwards.

01:03:51.320 So this would also give lend to a lot of the theories about the Germanic migrational tribes coming back into Scandinavia at the time and bringing worship and the cult worship of Odin with them and emphasize it when it had lost favor in the north for other cults of worship to other gods.

01:04:11.880 All right. Well, let's take some questions. One from Caleb. What are bird signs?

01:04:23.520 So, in this context, one of the, I don't want to put it,

01:04:39.580 But there are moments if you are so attuned or if the moment is significant enough that become transcendent and you notice that special things happen at special times.

01:05:03.680 And it's not limited to bloat, but often when we're talking about these sort of things, bloats involved certainly doesn't have to be.

01:05:15.520 In that context, bird signs is birds doing significant or meaningful things when fortuitous circumstances occur, often during bloat.

01:05:33.660 It's something that I first really noticed observing some of Steve McNallan's bloats.

01:05:43.160 He would very often get callback responses with ravens when we do bloat at places.

01:05:57.060 um and again without context to an audience to those that haven't been in bloat or haven't

01:06:04.340 experienced it it's kind of different and the different signs and special stuff show up a

01:06:10.400 little bit differently when you're doing bloat in a in a hoth versus when you're doing it

01:06:14.500 in nature in an open space but birds tend to be really interested and that tends to happen

01:06:23.540 in special ways and all this is going to sound very very odd but you know there'll be birds

01:06:29.280 around throughout the day but when you go and you do bloat and there's a silence and then there's a

01:06:34.880 impactful meaning to a thing that is done in the bloat and you'll have you know a raven will croak

01:06:43.660 or you'll have songbirds that'll all of a sudden sing at the point they'll be quiet for the rest

01:06:51.200 it or maybe they won't be around for a time and then they'll come and they'll uh perch in the

01:06:58.960 tree that's by your your uh your vey or your ritual circle and stay there for a certain moment

01:07:04.960 and then maybe they'll take flight at a certain moment there's not a real exact science to it i

01:07:10.300 know it sounds kind of nebulous but it's something that happens often um often throughout the years

01:07:17.680 as you know i've done a number of bloats seeing that i one of the things that's just

01:07:25.840 was really interesting to me in my property in palmer alaska when i was up there doing bloat

01:07:32.240 we had kind of our ritual tree was right on the outside of a ritual circle and that's where we'd

01:07:37.120 leave offerings and pour out the meat after we were done with with uh doing bloat and whatever

01:07:43.120 else and it was this old cottonwood tree we're pretty far from you know from the river we're

01:07:49.600 away from things very very seldom see eagles there but there was a bald eagle that came

01:07:57.520 showed up at the start of bloat in that tree sat there through the entirety of bloat with us you

01:08:06.000 know yelling and being loud and doing you know an enthusiastic bloat and as soon as bloat was

01:08:12.720 concluded it went about its way and it was very you know very odd i've never seen an eagle do that

01:08:19.920 in a spot that i was before or since um so i thought that was meaningful i know a lot of people

01:08:27.520 see that and have those associations with ravens um

01:08:33.520 you'll see them fly over at a particular moment where they'll do a call and response when there's

01:08:39.680 stuff going on i know that we experienced that at odin's off on floats that i've done there

01:08:47.600 again every time that happens is it the gods is it the land spirits now sometimes it's just birds

01:08:54.160 being interested but sometimes it is and over time you get a better sense of when it's significant

01:09:04.000 when it's not and what it might be um it's fine do you have any anything to add on that

01:09:09.920 yeah that last part that you you hit on is i think super super important um the idea

01:09:18.160 is that very often when we try to understand something we dissect it away from its relationships

01:09:26.000 to focus in on it and what a lot of people will say like they'll look at bird signs bird omenology

01:09:34.400 or um it's called ornithomancy um from the greek um the kind of communication through

01:09:43.120 bird flight um but in rome it was uh the augers priests that um would by way of auspex

01:09:55.120 determine things. Auspex means to watch the birds. But what, when we look into our lore too,

01:10:04.580 it's every time it's at the starting of the trip, we saw the ravens fly. This is a good sign.

01:10:12.720 And it's always correlated in the relationship to what's happening at the moment.

01:10:19.320 so that is i think one thing that people need to remember it is not that every time

01:10:28.340 but that when you are creating or law in the world in the well and there is a correlation

01:10:37.060 to the singularity of a moment where the the or log of the bird is uh moving at your at that same

01:10:47.640 time and there's deep correlative significance whether it's symbolic or cultural or what have

01:10:55.400 you these two moments would seem like coming out of the randomness that makes augury or clairvoyance

01:11:05.380 or divinatory practices is always kind of based off of the randomness of it is that those two

01:11:11.420 things colliding at that right moment often lend towards thinking uh and knowing that there's there's

01:11:22.140 this correlation between the two we do it like with alvar everyone always trying oh the alvar

01:11:28.300 what are the alvar but they never look at the fact that alvar is a meaning that the whatever

01:11:34.140 the word in front of it and and how there's a synthesization of of the being to the item so

01:11:42.620 it becomes a lot less confusing when you look at it that way so i think a lot of people dissect

01:11:49.820 things and it causes um uh confusion when but when we look at bird signs it's always in correlation

01:12:02.540 to great monumental or just very important moments so going forward and looking at the

01:12:11.780 signs of birds i think you should always consider your whereabouts and you should consider what's

01:12:18.740 going on um as opposed to just simply there's a there's a really delicate interplay with this

01:12:30.220 And having done ritual to our gods for 25 years now, it's interesting, you know, to kind of compare where I was when I started, where I am now, how these things affect.

01:12:49.780 in your own digestion of these things it's like you want to embrace the frosted and the wheat

01:13:04.060 side at the same time it's cool and there's a value to you getting carried away and excited

01:13:13.400 about the possibility of it being something special and i wouldn't ever want to kill that

01:13:19.100 I wouldn't ever want to like stomp that out being open to that and especially new people

01:13:24.600 being excited, thinking it's something that's beautiful.

01:13:29.660 And I don't, the enthusiasm is special there and I don't want to kill that, but also there's

01:13:34.740 a value in being skeptical and thinking about it critically and holding out discernment

01:13:43.060 on when it's meaningful versus when it's not versus when maybe it is i'll think more on that

01:13:51.460 and i say that you never want to rain on somebody's parade if they're excited about

01:13:56.740 something that way of course not but for your own understanding of it you do want to keep yourself

01:14:03.780 you do want to keep yourself honest and if everything's special then nothing is special

01:14:09.700 and that's that's something that's important to remember if every time you see a bird it's

01:14:16.520 magical then the time that it really is is going to fade into the background so having the

01:14:23.220 discernment and being able to entertain a certain amount of skepticism but also that

01:14:30.080 that childlike youthful enthusiasm is really important and as you do it over time you'll be

01:14:38.720 able to kind of feel when it is or when it isn't and it's not just bird sign you'll see it um i've

01:14:45.680 had that during ritual with with dogs with wolves one time we did a um did an odin bloat at a wolf

01:14:55.200 sanctuary and it was really cool when they would howl back during during bloat it was really

01:15:03.520 interesting um i've also done them on the mountainside in alaska and heard the wolves howl

01:15:10.720 back um but i've had like deer show up at really auspicious moments um so there's a lot of different

01:15:23.840 a lot of different ways to interact with nature that way

01:15:26.480 i think it's interesting too inauguration has connections to the augury of birds

01:15:34.960 and that clearly as being a a big event so the the idea that uh what is happening in

01:15:46.160 orlaw at the time of the person or people's indirect correlation to the birds and even to

01:15:53.600 the point where that event is now kind of formulated from the practice i thought that's

01:16:01.840 very interesting i did not know that i just read it so i was like wow um

01:16:11.200 so from scott fundraising is extremely important to the afa has the afa ever tried a casino night

01:16:19.040 at any of its churches so at the hoffs um there's different rules in different states certainly in

01:16:30.380 different uh even even county i believe as far as charitable gaming and some places are very strict

01:16:37.460 some places are very wide open on what you can do that way one of the problems that we face

01:16:43.720 is proximity so if we had a lot of members very close to a half doing something like a casino

01:16:55.840 night or any of the charitable gaming things makes a lot more sense i'm not opposed to it

01:17:02.740 i've actually had people in the past looking into it it's something that i'm i'm not at all opposed

01:17:07.520 to doing one thing that i've you know over time and certainly when i became austere gofi we were

01:17:15.840 looking into all these different ideas for fundraising and you know there's tons of

01:17:21.120 different oh we could sell chocolate bars and a percentage goes to the afa or you could you know

01:17:28.640 do this thing and sell t-shirts or you could do you know come up with this auction thing you could

01:17:34.080 host a you know hosted dinner that's a fundraiser all of those things tend to have more overhead

01:17:42.080 than you actually bring in it's like the things of that that i've seen that i've been involved in

01:17:49.040 again if you are professional and you're at a professional level and you know how to really

01:17:54.000 leverage those there's potential there so i don't want to just shut anything out

01:17:58.400 without thinking about it but i've seen those lose money more than i've seen them make money

01:18:04.080 Um, what is unfortunate, but is the truth of it, the best fundraising is our Hofftoller

01:18:16.140 and getting every member of the AFA as best we can to contribute as a percentage of their

01:18:22.100 income.

01:18:23.180 That has been a radical, um, force multiplier in our ability to accomplish things economically.

01:18:31.600 and then the other one is just asking people for money it's hard though because our people don't

01:18:40.020 like that it is inherently uncomfortable to say hey guys can you please give us some money

01:18:47.360 but realistically when you do that a hundred percent of that goes towards the cause that

01:18:53.900 you're asking for instead of overhead and the supply for whatever the little gimmicky thing is

01:19:02.000 and the renting of space if you have to or the you know any of those hoops when you get people

01:19:09.660 that are just willing to give because you ask and say hey can you please give and they do

01:19:13.220 that's where we make that's what's been successful for us and when we get people that are willing to

01:19:21.300 set up recurring percentage-based payments like our Hoftholler, that has massively increased our

01:19:27.860 ability. Anybody listening to this who is a member of the Astru Folk Assembly, if you would like to

01:19:33.220 contribute in that way, please talk to your local folk builder. We would love to have you

01:19:40.020 do your donations by Hoftholler. It is a huge, huge step forward in our ability to accomplish

01:19:47.620 stuff so if that's something that you're willing to consider hoftoller is a minimum one percent

01:19:55.300 or more of your of your income towards the austral folk assembly and uh the folks that have

01:20:03.220 chosen to do that have really really helped out and um yeah so we appreciate if something

01:20:08.660 you're interested your folk builder can tell you more about it and on behalf of githya alts i do

01:20:14.100 have to say we do take half dollar via llama at stigerheim so that's another thing people get

01:20:23.060 stuck on what that equals and like there's ways to set it up through your employer to be a

01:20:28.980 deduction so a lot of american um and i said because i don't know if this is at all the case

01:20:34.740 internationally but there's a substantial church culture in the united states so a lot of businesses

01:20:41.780 are set up for you to do percentage-based giving out of your paycheck to go directly to your church

01:20:48.820 so it works best for taxes and for everything else for you um that's a really good and convenient way

01:20:56.580 and even as um the united states has become more and more secular it's been kept in there to where

01:21:01.460 a percentage can go to you know whatever charity of your choosing so that charitable giving through

01:21:07.540 your accounting department is awesome and super convenient but that's not all if you do

01:21:15.300 you know you're an independent contractor or whatever your situation is you can pay off total

01:21:21.220 by cash by check by recurring credit card donation by handing your full builder you know

01:21:30.180 Again, like Sarah was saying, a llama or eggs or part of your harvest.

01:21:39.420 There's a lot of ways to figure it out to make it work.

01:21:42.880 But that has been a huge thing.

01:21:44.580 Very thankful for those that have chosen to give that way.

01:21:47.660 And see, also to the question, I'm self-conscious.

01:21:50.660 I don't want to do that all the time.

01:21:53.600 It's not what I'm trying to do.

01:21:55.420 But it is how we're able to accomplish the things we're able to accomplish.

01:21:58.200 So thank you guys so much.

01:21:59.400 you guys are very generous. And Scott, thank you for the question. From Caleb, can our prayers

01:22:05.920 stir our gods to action? How is it similar or different from Christian prayers to Yahweh

01:22:13.500 slash Jehovah? Spawn, how would you, how would you respond to that? Well, I, I think

01:22:22.080 i don't want to claim that that which uh perhaps the nature of the prayer

01:22:32.720 uh is is the part where i'm getting kind of reservation on i'm i'm not here saying that 0.99

01:22:41.060 the gods are gonna go beat up the bully down the street because you're getting your butt kicked 0.91

01:22:45.640 um because you really really really want them to um so prayer in the relation of a spiritual 0.98

01:22:58.640 exchange a gift cycle i think creates harmony between the divine and the material and the folk

01:23:10.860 And in doing so, that harmony beckons blessings from the gods, kind of as if the gods are ever giving of blessings, but that when you become aligned with it, that the frequency of the blessing or of the divine, of the gods, then you too are linked and then you gain and harmonize with.

01:23:38.560 When people are out of the gift cycle, they catch that harmony of the blessings of the divine. They still catch it now and then. It's an emanation, if you will, but it's easily as cyclable into as it is out of.

01:23:57.980 So the purpose of the gift cycle, which is so important in our faith, is, again, that deep and correlative connection to the divine, that creating that line between the two, of the self and of the divine.

01:24:16.700 I do believe that we in the material then do gain benefit or blessing of the divine in doing so.

01:24:26.580 And one of the ways that you can align yourself is through prayer. But I do not believe it's through prayer alone, unless obviously we're talking about the gift cycle. Some people do consider and I myself do consider the the gift cycle, the bloat that we perform to align ourselves is a form of prayer.

01:24:54.220 so that's why i was kind of a little hesitant in the sense of like uh you know getting at your

01:24:59.260 bedside and and saying like please lord thor can you beat up the guy who stole my lunch money um

01:25:06.860 i don't think it works like that and and the only reason why i'm addressing it is because

01:25:11.740 over the years christianity uh has muddled a lot of of ideas for itself and it therefore

01:25:22.060 passes over so the biggest thing for anyone in ausitru is to understand that the gift cycle is

01:25:30.860 extremely important and once the grip the gift cycle is established and there is this

01:25:36.940 entunement between the ever flowing and willful divine that can do and administer its gifts

01:25:45.740 however they see fit when you become receptive to that then you gain those blessings and you

01:25:52.780 begin to start seeing them around you so it's not based on need it's not based on desire

01:26:01.420 it's based on you committing to deeds to make yourself receptive to the divine

01:26:06.860 i hope that makes sense um i hope that also kind of clears the difference between our

01:26:14.700 understanding of prayer in Ausatru versus perhaps the praying in a Abrahamic sense.

01:26:24.380 Ours is about that alignment, about receiving that emanation of blessing that flows from them

01:26:31.460 at all times and can be wielded and manifested as they see fit, whether you pray to them or not.

01:26:38.440 But that, again, it's like catching the sunlight between the leaves of the trees. Whereas when you start to commit to deed and you enter the gift cycle, you build relationship, you meditate, you communicate, and those I think are peripheral to the core that is the gift cycle.

01:27:05.660 The placing of your will and doing the very deed of it in alignment with the gods and in alignment with the church as a whole.

01:27:17.600 So you're doing it with all of these other Asatruir all over at the same time.

01:27:23.820 There begins to have this fulfillment of kind of intuning yourself to the ever-present emanation of the blessings of the holy Aesir.

01:27:38.440 And I don't know.

01:27:40.560 I could kind of talk in circles on that and go and go and go and go.

01:27:44.960 But I hope that clarifies.

01:27:46.520 And that's my position on that.

01:27:50.660 Yeah, I'm going to go a little bit different way.

01:27:53.660 So I think people try really hard to make a distinction or differentiation that's not necessary.

01:28:12.080 Because Christians do something that doesn't make it bad or wrong.

01:28:16.520 um yes you need to engage in a gift cycle with our gods yes you need to give them worship and

01:28:24.720 you need to give them offerings and you need to give them devotion but i don't see anything wrong

01:28:33.640 with praying in the traditional exactly what you're picturing in your head

01:28:39.280 praying in the by your bedside at night, praying in any of that. I don't see anything wrong with

01:28:47.500 that. What I do think the distinction comes in that's important is Christianity is about your

01:28:56.380 weakness in the face of things. And the only thing that is good is their God. And the only thing that 0.97

01:29:02.700 is effective is their God or invoking him or invoking his son's power in doing something.

01:29:11.460 I think that's very different in our faith.

01:29:14.800 I think the emphasis on you doing your part to make stuff happen is really important.

01:29:22.600 But I don't think it is inappropriate or ineffective to ask the gods, specifically to ask your ancestors, but to ask the gods to help and intercede on your behalf in situations.

01:29:39.500 especially if you need an extra you know an extra bump on something

01:29:45.700 to get you over the finish line or if you're out there doing the work and you need some extra luck

01:29:52.640 for it or if it's beyond your control and beyond your ability to do something i don't think that's

01:29:59.320 inappropriate at all when you ask can that move the gods to action certainly i don't limit what

01:30:06.760 our gods do if our gods know you and listen to you and care what you have to say

01:30:14.300 they may very well decide to do you a favor and do you a kindness they're not obliged to

01:30:22.100 you can't demand of i mean i suppose you can do what you want but you cannot like they will not

01:30:29.140 you cannot force them to meet your demands or to do the things that you can't like contractually

01:30:35.060 bind them to do the things that you you know did the right song dance you prayed in the right way

01:30:40.020 so they have to do your bidding it doesn't work that way god's in your person but yes if they're

01:30:46.580 so inclined um they can absolutely be moved to help you in some way i think they are more inclined

01:30:54.500 to help you if you are you know out there fighting and putting in your part and doing your part on it

01:30:59.700 But I think that the big, and again, I think there's something fundamental to our people, and I don't think it's just a Jesus thing, to reach out to the divine when you are overwhelmed with things beyond your power.

01:31:22.540 I think that is a human thing. I think it's what our people have done forever. I think that we've seen it in a Christian context because that's been the dominant religion of the media we've consumed and of kind of how we process imagery of the past.

01:31:41.620 But I have no reason to believe that our ancestors, in all different forms of Arian faith, didn't ask the gods to help them, didn't come before their altar and, you know, ask for strength or for healing or for, you know, luck in business or whatever.

01:32:00.400 I think that's fine, but there is a helplessness in Christianity and a groveliness that I don't 0.91

01:32:13.280 think is necessary or I don't think is a hallmark of absolute religiosity, but what I do think 0.99

01:32:20.380 really important about prayer is that it's genuine i think that a false

01:32:29.820 a false groveling is gross and dishonest but i think that a false bravado is also gross and

01:32:36.940 dishonest i think approaching our gods with respect and with piety and with a genuine

01:32:45.740 expression of yourself is the most effective route towards successful prayer with them in my

01:32:53.180 experience again it's really important to always have the gods can do what they want right they're

01:33:00.940 gods they can listen to your prayer they cannot they can help you they cannot they can do what

01:33:09.900 the gods want to do they are gods we never want to be impious by limiting that or by coming up

01:33:16.220 with equations that we can somehow manipulate them to do it doesn't work that way they're gods

01:33:25.500 well i wanted to say like and you had mentioned uh uh stepping in on your behalf and and speaking

01:33:32.780 about those the prayers to the ancestors prayers to the lanvetir um i and i i i wanted to set that

01:33:44.700 understanding about alignment and not necessarily making individual prayer the way you see it as

01:33:51.180 being bad or or less than it's it i think it for me is the gift cycle as the core of the rope and

01:34:00.700 then there are the outside of that rope is filled with many important and intertwined things like

01:34:08.220 producing art for the gods is would be one of those things praying to the gods and having a

01:34:16.380 verbal relationship or a mental relationship with the gods um in and utilizing your consciousness

01:34:24.620 to make those connections. And also turning inward and looking to the divine to help

01:34:33.700 guide yourself inwardly as well. I think all of these are very, very important. I was just

01:34:41.640 the point of the core, that gift cycle, that connecting of timing with everything. And

01:34:49.440 prayer is utilized so much in the bloat in uh whether it's at home or whether it's at the

01:34:56.920 hof um but certainly not disconnected i just think it's yeah that's that core um

01:35:05.080 and i the major reason why i'm bringing it up is because we talk so often about

01:35:10.440 the gift cycle that our church has had with the gods clearly bringing blessings

01:35:17.880 uh it's and i'm not claiming it's just the observation of and i think that that's so

01:35:28.780 important that people new to alsatru and even some older folks because i've met people in

01:35:34.980 alsatru who are like i've given horns to the gods they should give me this they make some

01:35:40.000 contractual thing and that is ridiculous but um yeah that all that interconnectivity i think is is

01:35:53.840 worth and i often do say prayers to the gods at night at bedside or in bed um

01:36:02.320 But I do feel that, again, it's the communication is a relationship, but the gifting cycle is the, you are now rubber meets the road.

01:36:16.420 You are invested.

01:36:18.740 Well, another point that I'd like to make about prayer is it doesn't.

01:36:24.040 and etymologically it it might have to run down the rabbit hole on it but i don't think it always

01:36:34.580 needs to um i don't think it always needs to be um asking for something i think there is

01:36:48.120 merit to communicating things, you know, asking, making your intentions known, making your

01:37:02.060 devotion known, um, reaffirming, reaffirming a commitment, um, yeah, um, like, I'm, cause

01:37:18.640 I'm trying to think, like, asking forgiveness if you've done, if you've not lived up to

01:37:24.880 an obligation um expressing appreciation of just giving thanks for something i think is completely

01:37:33.340 appropriate as well um so that's you know that's just a little add to it something we should have

01:37:42.940 gotten to when we were doing discussions about uh gevin that i didn't notice the question at the

01:37:49.820 time. Wasn't virgin another way of saying maiden? So in other words, like an unmarried

01:37:57.360 woman. Yes, and if you look at the original text that gets translated, it goes to that

01:38:04.860 same maiden root.

01:38:12.540 So it uses the root of maiden itself and not

01:38:34.200 the root of virgin but yes it since it's earliest that you can trace in proto-germanic

01:38:42.440 it simultaneously meant like girl unmarried woman and virgin those are kind of inseparable

01:38:53.480 concepts and i know that you know in reality everyone did not lose their virginity at you

01:39:01.000 know in the marriage bed i don't i i know that that's not how everything worked but those concepts

01:39:06.840 were all kind of indistinct indistinguishably rolled into the concept of maiden archaically

01:39:14.760 you know your virginity would be referred to as your maidenhood um so yeah that linguistically

01:39:23.240 it doesn't necessarily mean that. Those concepts are all rolled into that same word.

01:39:38.040 So let's go back into the text here and

01:39:43.960 And, sorry, I've got to find my place again.

01:39:49.420 I apologize.

01:39:50.600 The fifth is Fula. 1.00

01:39:53.160 She also is a maid and goes with loose tresses and a golden band about her head. 0.97

01:40:00.200 She bears the ashen coffer of Frigg and has charge over her foot gear and knows her secret counsel. 0.62

01:40:08.280 From the Truller model, Fulla's name means bountiful.

01:40:16.700 She listens to those of our folk who need to share their thoughts.

01:40:21.880 Fulla is the patroness of the well-managed home.

01:40:29.720 I think that these Maidens of Fensiler,

01:40:33.840 they bring out different, very accessible,

01:40:41.680 very, I don't know, easy to wrap your head around 0.99

01:40:46.020 aspects of femininity and women's roles in things.

01:40:52.560 And it's brought out in a beautiful way

01:40:54.040 as kind of Frigg's court of these ladies and women.

01:40:59.720 waiting um the idea of having a trusted you know trusted friend that will hear your counsel that

01:41:09.120 will you know that will give you counsel that will hear hear your secrets that you can confide

01:41:14.240 in somebody that you can give that confiding to and the responsibility of maintaining a household

01:41:21.200 of all the different you know home things that used to be very prominently taught

01:41:28.160 to girls and young women to being able to take care of a home take care of a household and

01:41:34.340 manage those kind of things it's interesting that those two concepts are married together

01:41:40.560 in this in this goddess um but yeah uh swan do you have any thoughts on on fuller i remember

01:41:49.260 reading on some

01:41:50.960 other

01:41:51.980 like

01:41:55.380 I'll say

01:41:57.160 because we are Alcestru they are

01:41:59.440 I don't

01:42:01.680 know the Norse paganism

01:42:03.440 they were trying she's the goddess 0.93

01:42:05.320 of shoes because 1.00

01:42:07.440 of the specific mention of her 0.54

01:42:09.420 foot gear they're

01:42:11.580 completely missing the

01:42:13.360 point that this is actually

01:42:15.300 more a delegation

01:42:16.560 to the royalty of

01:42:18.920 frig and that she is entrusted they don't look at the concept of what that could mean in old

01:42:28.520 norse life but a very powerful woman in station having trust in the key things that were considered

01:42:38.700 very important uh at the time and having her be the entrustment of that is was completely lost

01:42:48.320 on them and they kind of went on this whole uh thing about shoes or so i don't it was very strange

01:42:54.760 to me um and not looking at it in what i think is so important is that not only just the gear

01:43:05.300 or the the accoutrements or whatever that is um there is also the the the secrets so that which

01:43:14.840 is tangible and that which is intangible, she holds well and organizes. And I think in modern

01:43:24.560 practices outside of the shoe people, a lot of folks take that into manifestation with the house

01:43:35.600 in, in essence, the, the, the moving in of things, the moving out of things, the, the, the woman of

01:43:44.160 the house, knowing what's coming in, where it goes and where all things are and when it's leaving

01:43:50.280 or how it's leaving or when it needs to go. And so that, uh, heavy usage, um, of minutia in the

01:44:01.020 house. That's, I think, what is a deep connection to her dominion in our religious and spiritual

01:44:09.080 life. I've even seen people go so far as to give prayers to her when they're doing things like

01:44:15.720 making sauerkraut, because the idea of the cabbage coming in from the outside and being prepared and

01:44:26.540 preserved and utilized to give strength to the family uh it's it that's a cycle it's a logistical

01:44:33.700 cycle of something coming into the house and so the processes of making bounty from the fields

01:44:43.820 more and giving more and organizing and keeping it in a place um and that it's not simply just

01:44:53.880 one thing it's just that that processes whatever it may be is that dominion of her home and of the

01:45:03.740 organization and of the allocation of things that um the idea of of of not being mired in 0.58

01:45:14.400 sloven mess because of course that's always a manifestation of of a deep part of the of the

01:45:23.020 mind and the soul being hurt uh is you can often see that sometimes in people's houses

01:45:29.620 um so there's this correlation of the physicality of the world being organized and brought into

01:45:37.280 correct um flow and i think that's a huge thing and i think that's something that we also need

01:45:44.420 to consider with all the goddesses is that their dominion and how they interplay i've said it

01:45:49.380 before, the gods are vertical and the goddesses are horizontal or intertwining horizontally

01:45:55.240 like a weft and weave, is that the goddesses' dominions interplay in our lives in what would

01:46:05.580 often be very subtle ways. I think they were far more prominent to our ancestors because survival 0.99

01:46:11.880 was quite literally on the line um but understanding the dominion of the goddesses

01:46:19.100 and how they pervade in our lives in very soft subtle and important ways

01:46:28.500 is a key to building relationship with them specifically the maidens of fensauer but

01:46:35.240 um yeah

01:46:41.880 All right, Freyja is most gently born together with Frigg. 0.50

01:46:53.840 She is wedded to a man named Odr, her, Odr, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm looking at the back and

01:47:02.720 forth on the translations on the name.

01:47:05.140 Sometimes they use the Old Norse, sometimes they don't.

01:47:07.380 Freyja is most gently born together with Frigg.

01:47:10.660 wedded to a man named Odr. Their daughter is Knoss. She is so fair that those things which are fair

01:47:20.500 and precious are called Knossir. Odr went away on long journeys and Freyja weeps for him and her

01:47:32.660 tears are red gold freya has many names and this is the cause thereof that she gave herself sundry

01:47:42.500 names when she went out among unknown peoples seeking over her she's called mardo and horn

01:47:51.460 From Geffen Seer, Freyja had the necklace of Brasingamen.

01:47:59.940 She is also called Lady of the Vanir.

01:48:04.440 From the Trulagmal. 0.66

01:48:11.740 Freyja's name means Lady.

01:48:13.720 Freyja displays her divine femininity in a wild and passionate way.

01:48:17.880 as a goddess of sensuality, desire, fertility, and magic.

01:48:22.820 Women often look to Lady Freya to unlock and enhance their spiritual might.

01:48:28.400 Men often look to Freya for help in romance.

01:48:38.860 Oh, and just a little blurb here because we happen to have it in the Trilogmo about her

01:48:45.940 and it mentions it earlier,

01:48:47.740 I think we read it last week and week prior.

01:48:50.680 Her hall, Sais-Romneur, is great and fair.

01:48:54.760 When she goes forth, she drives her cats

01:48:57.060 and sits in a chariot.

01:48:58.860 She's most comfortable to man's prayers, 0.98

01:49:02.820 and from her name comes the name of honor, fruit, 1.00

01:49:07.620 by which noble women are called.

01:49:09.700 Songs of love are well-pleasing to her.

01:49:12.080 It is good to call on her for furtherance in love.

01:49:15.940 I think that Freya is very well attested. I think that it is people are quick to point out

01:49:29.560 the sexuality and the kind of carnal nature of her character which is valid and is a thing

01:49:41.300 but it doesn't stand alone and it's not crass um her name literally meaning lady her being gently

01:49:52.180 born she exemplifies nobility and nobility of bearing so i think that she's often um

01:50:01.380 misrepresented misrepresented in a derogatory way in a i don't know in a in an obscene way

01:50:09.780 that is is not fitting of her station so i don't i know that it's society goes through phases 0.53

01:50:17.140 and i think that we are currently in a phase where as a push back against the degeneracy around us

01:50:24.340 our people in our circles tend to either be prudish or virtue signal prudishness

01:50:33.140 i think we need to be careful to have balance and how we do things and not to

01:50:39.780 unfairly demonized sexuality there's appropriate displays of sexuality and

01:50:45.660 there's ways that it's that's very valuable and meaningful I don't think

01:50:52.100 that we have to either be prudish or you know it immediately bust out into some

01:50:57.700 kind of backic orgy I think there's there's certainly nuance to that but I

01:51:04.440 think we all need to appreciate and be able to find the dignity in it that's fun oh uh before 0.52

01:51:13.000 i go there jeffrey in texas donated 50 towards the cigarhine mower thank you jeffrey we appreciate

01:51:18.920 it it's fun yeah i kind of i had made mention of the separation of the wholeness of two polarity

01:51:27.080 polarities with uh holy freya and the mentioning of other and other um a lot of people again

01:51:35.960 want to linguistically connect other to lord odin um the the word itself is more akin to

01:51:47.880 passion and it can often be utilized in linguistically to the soul the mind the desire

01:51:58.840 and the passion of things um so whereas we when and we'll we'll talk about a a goddess of love

01:52:10.920 love in the sense that we would often see holy freya addressed as um i think that changing and

01:52:21.160 looking at the ideas of the the manifestation of the power of passion the power of attraction

01:52:31.560 and desire i think is um more ethereal than the actual mechanics of um love and uh societal uh

01:52:46.120 interaction um where uh like even down to the point of of dating and things like that that's

01:52:53.800 That's mechanics towards building in a relationship towards love, but instead looking at Holy Freyja as the emanation of passion and love and the things that drive us towards, I would even include art or like classical art and architecture and the idea of surrounding beauty around us.

01:53:23.800 That emanation, that desire that we have as folk, that is, that's her dominion flowing out. And oftentimes it's interpreted as that is the Brzingam is that focal point of emanation of passion emanating from her and driving the souls of the folk to search for beauty, to search for that which elevates them.

01:53:53.600 and drives them on and that beauty is the opposite of death and that her light her life the warmth

01:54:05.900 her fire all of these uh things are against the drudgery and the fallacies of the material

01:54:14.060 it goes beyond that um and in doing so in that big sense she is very very complicated as a goddess

01:54:23.340 Just as Frigg is complicated with the ideas of oathing society, interconnectivity with the moving forward of society and royalty, the gently born, the usage of the word tinnust is royalty.

01:54:48.620 That's what the gently born translation kind of means. So like Frigg, Holy Freyja is aristocratic, is royally born.

01:55:03.600 And we know this because of the way it's placed in the sagas, but I think also it is an elevation of dominion that's far more reaching and less nuanced, like I was speaking before.

01:55:24.060 So that's why we went understanding that elevation between, and we can see it clearly around us in the observation of the worship of the goddesses, that there is a heavy emphasis on the worship of Holy Frege and Holy Freya in different ways as their dominion pervades.

01:55:45.060 And then the maidens of Fensalar, I think, are so nuanced that people are building their relationships with them now, but the cults of them are very niche amongst folk.

01:55:57.240 So when we talk about, and I had mentioned that the ancient way that our ancestors looked at the gods as living on top of heaven's mountains in the valley of work,

01:56:14.240 that when he leaves and he goes to the nations of men and then she searches after him crying

01:56:24.480 tears of gold and the gold that or the tears that fall in the land become gold and the tears that

01:56:31.220 fall in the ocean become amber you know there is this deep poetic point of the goddess of passion

01:56:39.820 the goddess of possession, the goddess of beauty, going out and searching for that other

01:56:49.000 polaric half. And nothing comes out of creation if you don't have the desire to attain, to create,

01:57:00.760 to build or move forward, or that longing. It's a longing. And that, I think, is where a lot of

01:57:08.300 the power of Holy Freya resides is that longing of something to create, to formulate, to build

01:57:19.760 or make beautiful. And over and over and over again, she is clearly the most prized of the

01:57:31.320 goddesses that the Jotun who, despite their grumblings of the fact that the Isir had slain 0.92

01:57:39.700 the great progenitor of the middle Midgard Jotuns, Ymir, they still covet and they want 0.98

01:57:49.180 her. There's that yearning. And it's, again, it's about a receptive end constantly drawing

01:57:59.540 to itself. And I think that that has a great play in any artist who is trying to reach the pinnacle

01:58:10.780 of what they're attempting to create, or any person that looks upon a statue and is

01:58:18.420 moved to weeping. The beauty that lies in these techniques of traditional work is a total

01:58:27.240 manifestation of the entirety of our folk in western civilization and she manifests that way

01:58:34.200 and and um you know that that kind of thought came to me when i saw the the famous uh painting um

01:58:45.800 the artist's name is going to elude me right now um he the of her weeping the tears of gold

01:58:55.240 um uh i'm gonna have to get back on the name of that artist a modern or not modern but

01:59:05.760 in our modern times um that essence is very mysterious and her traveling moving all

01:59:17.220 connecting to the idea that we were talking about before with the horse versus the the the sacred

01:59:24.700 cattle. The movement part is, I think, a huge thing there. And the difference between like

01:59:35.320 solidification in society and the etherealness of beauty and passion being able to be not quite

01:59:46.260 defined by plot of land or by boundary of nation it just it's um definitely horse versus cattle

02:00:01.860 all right um real quick the artist is ann marie zilberman often false attributed to gustav klimt

02:00:09.860 Yes.

02:00:14.280 Yeah.

02:00:17.000 All right.

02:00:17.660 So, the seventh is Siovin.

02:00:27.680 She is most diligent in turning the thoughts of men to love, both men and women.

02:00:33.960 And from her name, love longing is called Siofni.

02:00:39.900 And from the true love mouth,

02:00:43.940 Siovin is a goddess of love.

02:00:46.800 All our folk may look to Siovin

02:00:48.780 when we yearn for love and companionship.

02:00:52.940 It is wise to seek her blessing when looking for a spouse.

02:00:56.400 Siovin is the patroness of lovers.

02:01:03.600 One thing that I think is worth mentioning

02:01:08.320 at any of these junctures

02:01:11.020 but here specifically

02:01:12.300 it

02:01:13.500 talks about both

02:01:16.900 of women and of men

02:01:18.160 it turns the thoughts of men to love

02:01:21.240 both the thoughts of women and of men

02:01:23.020 it's I think

02:01:25.100 that sometimes

02:01:27.100 like sometimes we categorize

02:01:34.860 the gods and the goddesses

02:01:36.540 too sharply like oh these are just for for women to pray to like oh or you know

02:01:45.180 warriors only pray to odin and farmers pray to thor and you know women pray to the and i don't

02:01:52.980 think it's that way at all i think all of our goddesses are for and all of our gods for that

02:01:57.320 matter for all of our folk and it talks specifically about a number of our goddesses here being

02:02:03.200 And particularly, you know, giving an ear to mortals that have these very, very real and very relatable struggles internally, you know, struggles with love and relationship, with loneliness, with various circumstances in life.

02:02:25.700 you see like the halomo talks very specifically about you know a young warrior traveling

02:02:36.380 far from home to different halls and in different circumstance here you see something very relatable

02:02:43.360 to people who are going through struggles internally with their emotions with their

02:02:51.820 social relationship to others you see that in the maidens of fensiler and their description

02:02:58.220 in a lot of ways and i think this one is a you know an example of that and makes the point um

02:03:05.020 that it's not just for for women it's for men to to pray to her swan do you have stuff to add on

02:03:12.220 shelvin yeah i think you keying in on that i mean it's there very it is that that's so important that

02:03:20.540 interconnectivity between men and women um it's almost unspecific in the sense that it's utilizing

02:03:27.340 at first man in the public sense like all men or uh like a la mother um where it's open

02:03:35.420 to mankind or or the folk um and then it specifically hones in on between men and women

02:03:44.220 so the and i had just spoken about how oftentimes holy and i'm not saying you can't pray to holy

02:03:52.540 freya for love but that oftentimes i feel she is misplaced or or misplaced in the mind of many

02:04:01.660 people as specifically being some sort of kind of aphrodite um direct uh parallel but um

02:04:14.220 we have the j is like a y sound the o with two dots is at all and then the f in the middle of

02:04:21.820 the word is a v sound so and um as the what i was speaking of about the the minutia of love

02:04:31.340 in our societies um but also too i think uh because of the usage of it in the broad sense of the folk

02:04:40.300 so um you know most diligent in turning the thoughts of of men to love both of women and of

02:04:50.380 men so there's that double the it's a like saying um or you know the interpretation of it could be

02:04:59.660 that she is most diligent in turning the folks thoughts to love both of men and women and that's

02:05:09.100 something that i was kind of uh thinking about was that there is familial love there is um

02:05:19.340 friendship between that is a is a form of love and i think that forces outside of the core of uh

02:05:29.820 aryan social structures that have created the west try to attack a lot of these ideas about love and

02:05:37.340 try to immediately sexualize them. But instead, it is good to pray to Siovan in all cases of

02:05:46.660 returning to or having that feeling of love. Now, again, more so when we talk about the love between

02:05:57.740 a man and a woman, but it also, that's the core, but there is the love between brothers and the

02:06:04.920 love between say fraternity or and love between parents and children and and family in general

02:06:14.060 that is far more focused it's not so much about the longing and the passion and the creation of

02:06:24.180 of beauty and so it's more about the interconnectiveness of society that holds it together

02:06:31.540 and that it isn't strictly in a sexual way.

02:06:39.240 And I'm not trying to be prudish and I'm not trying to...

02:06:42.340 I'm trying to...

02:06:43.200 Yeah, you are.

02:06:44.180 No, I'm trying to include versus exclude.

02:06:47.980 Instead of saying it isn't this or that,

02:06:51.960 is that I think it is this plus the love elsewhere.

02:06:58.600 and i i mean and it's worth noting again especially when we get into some of these things

02:07:04.440 there is a tendency to right go prudish because in

02:07:15.000 the faith tradition that has been predominant over the last few centuries

02:07:19.880 we have not been raised with the appropriate way to talk about sex and sexuality in the same breath

02:07:36.640 as we speak about pipe and it's challenging and we wouldn't want to be disrespectful or be

02:07:44.680 inappropriate. So we err on the side of caution sometimes. And I think that's done out of the

02:07:49.840 best of intentions. And I think that as we culturally return to our native faith, that

02:07:57.480 that balance will be more, will come more naturally. But again, I think as a good rule

02:08:06.400 of thumb on all of this we get it but it's religion and we worship our gods as pious people

02:08:19.600 we want to err on the side of being too polite rather than being too crass and i think that we

02:08:28.440 would apply that in life to anybody that we respect if you're talking to a parent or your

02:08:34.800 friends parents or your in-laws or your grandparents or your boss or you know the governor or whoever

02:08:43.360 you're talking to if it's somebody who you're seeking their approval and you want to be very

02:08:50.000 respectful of you always want to err on the side of of not offending rather than accidentally

02:08:57.680 offended by being too uh too body in the things that you say yeah and i i think that a lot of

02:09:05.680 times when we do talk about it and it's like oh he's saying this because he's trying to be prudish

02:09:11.520 and trying to deny the reality i'm more of the mindset that the core of of that of love but that

02:09:19.760 That there is the in addition to the love and of other things and that has been kind of doled out of our society by, I think, forces that don't want to, they want to sexualize everything.

02:09:38.060 It is the love between a man and a woman, but there is also addition.

02:09:43.800 So I'm trying not to exclude per se.

02:09:46.480 It's that feeling of that love, of her source coming out that I think pervades, and it is always going back to that interconnectedness of societal dominion.

02:10:05.680 their their dominion in our world is keeping and connecting uh it's about relationships and

02:10:13.120 those connectivity points um whether it manifests in something as simple as an organized house

02:10:19.440 or as something as great as the passion that that drives an artist to seek their magnum opus

02:10:28.560 so getting on a couple of questions and there's a conversation going on over in the chat

02:10:33.200 so I don't want to go over everybody's thing

02:10:47.000 but basically there's a current

02:10:49.120 to like

02:10:52.440 make general offerings

02:10:55.280 to the gods as opposed

02:10:57.080 to making specific offerings

02:10:58.960 I think that's wrong headed

02:11:00.620 and in the sense of

02:11:03.280 i don't think it has to be one or the other i think that it's always appropriate when in doubt

02:11:08.080 to you know make an offering to the icr generally or to hail the icr generally that's always fine

02:11:15.520 so don't get me wrong that's not inappropriate but i do think there is

02:11:22.480 all right any of the action that we do

02:11:25.920 outside of the material realm and again when i start talking like this i don't have the exact

02:11:34.620 words but when we're interacting with the gods or the ancestors or when we're doing something

02:11:44.000 ritually or spiritually or magically intention is everything that is our currency that we have

02:11:51.520 in that plane of interaction money doesn't spend there they're not really drinking the mead it

02:12:01.140 doesn't work that way what we have is our intention and in that sense it really is the

02:12:09.400 thought that counts is the intentionality that's directed there that counts so if you don't know

02:12:17.400 any better or you don't want to get it wrong, praying generally I think is okay. But I think

02:12:23.080 it is particularly meaningful to build relationship very specifically with individual gods for

02:12:31.820 individual things that you want. You know, during Sumble when people hail the AFA, awesome. When

02:12:41.180 people, hail the AFA leadership. Wonderful. I am proud of all of those things. If they look across

02:12:47.680 and say, hey, Matt, you do great things. Hail Matt Flavelle. It means something different and it is

02:12:55.820 specifically meaningful. So I think that's important. If you're making offerings to the

02:13:04.180 gods, I think that's nice and it's probably smiled upon, but very particularly to one of our gods

02:13:10.820 in a specific way and with a specific sharing of gifts between you, that builds a much more

02:13:19.260 intimate relationship and contact. And I think that's really important. So I think that is a,

02:13:26.060 you know, a better, a better tact most often. And again, there's plenty of occasions to where

02:13:34.920 I'll make an offering to the ICR generally, or I don't think that that's, you know, ever a bad

02:13:40.480 thing but i do think there's particular value to um building relationship with someone particularly

02:13:49.040 and i think we again it we overthink and we look at you know maybe what the ancestors said about

02:13:56.000 something or what we read in a book or saw in a movie no we know about relationships from the

02:14:02.560 the moment that we're born into the world we overcomplicate it when we try to make something

02:14:10.400 that's very simple and very plain abstract it doesn't need to be abstract you can add things

02:14:16.960 to it but we know how relationships are with people we know that if someone addresses you

02:14:22.800 directly with a personal message it means more than when somebody addresses you or your family

02:14:30.240 or a group of people you are in a group with,

02:14:34.960 generally, it's less emotionally meaningful to you as a person.

02:14:40.520 And I think we should extend that understanding to the gods.

02:14:44.500 The gods are so much more than that.

02:14:47.440 But we are born and built with certain ability

02:14:54.640 to build relationship and to relate to other living things.

02:14:58.880 You shouldn't forsake that for an abstraction.

02:15:04.560 We do have some questions coming about from Caleb.

02:15:09.760 What runes are put into the horn for Sumbler?

02:15:13.300 Is it appropriate to use those runes outside of High Sumbler?

02:15:17.620 What about other rune combinations?

02:15:20.000 um so because i know who's asking the question and i'm the one who conducts the

02:15:29.840 that part of the high assemble i'm assuming that you're asking the rooms that i put in because

02:15:34.160 others may do something different um i do my bit over the horn the way that i came up and observed

02:15:44.740 our founder, Steve McNallan, do. The runes are ansus, laugus, and urus. The formula of

02:15:58.860 that is the alu formula. It's also, I've tried this before and don't think you can see it.

02:16:08.020 Anyways, around the Gothar Ring, there is very tiny, a never-ending cycle of Ansuz, Laguz, Uruz, Laguz, Ansuz, Laguz, Uruz, Laguz, Ansuz.

02:16:25.200 The idea is the gods represented by answers, the exchange of worship of energy symbolized by the liquid of need of pouring out, which is the most the original form of worship by our people.

02:16:49.860 it's the root of like uh the goths it's the root of the word below

02:16:55.040 um so the gods the liquid of transmission and then the primal the the fleshy the the us

02:17:06.280 so from you know the that connection between gods this exchange this liquid and us and then

02:17:16.980 us the liquid to the gods um so that's done over the horn and then i you know say alu three times

02:17:28.900 over it uh yes that's appropriate for a lot of things outside i mentioned that's kind of the

02:17:38.700 the runic way of symbolizing that gift cycle in action through the work that our gothar perform

02:17:48.020 i think that that's you know useful in a lot of context that's that and as i mentioned the

02:17:55.780 inverse um alu or i guess ula are runic formulas that are attested in um ancient carving

02:18:05.860 there are a lot of different runic formulas you can do where you can combine a runic formula

02:18:12.380 into bind runes um but that's what i do over the sumble horn spawn do you have anything to add to

02:18:19.340 that uh no i i mean i think you covered the totality of that um and why i think the

02:18:29.680 significance of why you say it at sumbo is the key point that people should focus on is yes the

02:18:37.960 that that breath the manifestation of these very powerful uh sounds the words of these runes going

02:18:46.980 into the horn um is that the the words going into the the liquid into the mead that brings about

02:18:58.300 that primal strength, that invigoration at the starting of Sambul. And in a way, I think it's

02:19:07.800 subtle that people, when they leave Sambul, oftentimes it's late at night and there's a lot

02:19:13.360 of people, but they feel an invigoration in a way that's, they feel a deeper connection to people.

02:19:21.560 they feel a heightened sense of faith um there's a lot going on and all of that is again

02:19:30.080 stirring the waters it's the the the words go out and the mead goes in and all of that is stirring

02:19:40.440 and activating a lot of that uh of the soul you know changing things making things grow

02:19:50.320 So I think that that's another reason outside of everything you covered about just the fact that it is at symbol in that utilization.

02:20:01.100 All right.

02:20:03.060 Also from Caleb, do you think the Bifrost more closely resembles the rainbow or the Aurora Borealis?

02:20:14.500 It's fine.

02:20:16.860 I think it's the rainbow.

02:20:18.180 um i think it's clear and it's concise i think there's also a point because remember we talk

02:20:26.900 about or i've been talking about relationships the bridge to heaven is the shimmering path

02:20:33.420 it is made of light and of fire and is not easily attainable whereas the bridge to hell guard is

02:20:41.160 wide and strong and covered cover a covered bridge which symbolically is is speaking of a bridge that

02:20:50.200 is not weathered but protected so it is ever accessible and you notice these two relationships

02:20:59.000 um almost immediately now why the rainbow over the aurora borealis

02:21:04.920 a couple of reasons and one of them and i talked about it already with like the owl in the sagas

02:21:12.260 the owl is only mentioned once by the beak of an owl and it's in a flippant kind of list of things

02:21:21.040 that doesn't mean that our ancestors didn't know what an owl was but interestingly enough

02:21:27.520 the Aurora Borealis is not mentioned anywhere. And there is a lot of theories to that. One of

02:21:37.700 them majorly being that the poles might not have been aligned at the same position that they are

02:21:46.440 today. And we do know about polar shifts and all of these things. So a lot of folks kind of attested

02:21:52.820 to the idea that they didn't write it down because they weren't really getting any of it

02:21:57.720 at the time. And I don't know about that. I don't know enough about the polar shifts

02:22:05.640 in chronological history and how much validity that theory has. But I've also heard a lot of

02:22:15.720 other things. It's the shining glimmer of the roofs of heaven or the armor of the Einherjar.

02:22:22.820 um there that actually comes from a a book calls it's called bull finch's mythology it's the only

02:22:33.100 place it's ever mentioned and there's no attestment to it anywhere in the adas i that doesn't

02:22:39.840 necessarily mean that it's bad or or incorrect in the sense that you know if it had come about from

02:22:48.860 a place of faith in these things um the beauty and the poeticism of it

02:22:56.300 i think are interesting but we have to be honest it is mentioned there and nowhere before then

02:23:03.000 um but it is carried throughout the internet the other is that it's associated with ullur and uh

02:23:10.940 But Ullr, with his name having a theorized etymology of the shining, it's not really theorized. It does mean like glorious and that kind of goes in with brightness.

02:23:26.420 And there's always a connection of light and brightness to the gods.

02:23:31.640 And I'm not denying that, but there was some connection predominantly because the light and the shiningness that shows up in winter.

02:23:42.660 But there's no lore connection.

02:23:46.740 And so with all of that, I, you know, the ultimate point of it is I, you can't, I think in this day and age, not look at the heavens, but I've always associated it with Leo Saufheim, with the light.

02:24:08.760 and the reason that when the gods as we were speaking about ausgard and how there is a heaven

02:24:15.320 above a heaven and then there is a heaven beyond that heaven and that that these places will come

02:24:22.340 into being when um ragnarok comes uh that the souls of the einherjar and those in heaven will

02:24:31.460 reside there but right now none reside there but the light elves and what we're seeing is kind of

02:24:39.860 this kind of furthering or escalation of the heavens um and we already know that that

02:24:47.620 association is that the light elves reside there despite no one else does uh the gods are living

02:24:52.740 in ausgard but at the edge of heaven or at the uppermost of heaven as it's kind of often

02:24:57.860 translated so i've always associated with the uh with the leo south but there is no

02:25:06.100 lore stating either way but i do think the definitive point of the bridge of fire the

02:25:13.780 prismatic ray of light descending from the upper realm and the fact that it is thin and it is not

02:25:23.940 able to carry holy Thor. All of these attestments are building on the idea that heaven is not a

02:25:31.160 place attainable by the masses. It is exclusory in that sense, and that the bridge to the dead

02:25:42.220 is ever open. And so attaining that upward ascension is one that requires work, passage,

02:25:56.700 and a kind of honing of the soul or admittance by the gods. I think that's really, really

02:26:05.020 important. And that's what substantiates the evidence that Bivrost or the glimmering path

02:26:12.000 is you know more a rainbow than the northern lights

02:26:21.200 um so because it is the theme of the show you know what do we associate uh

02:26:31.040 bifrost with be it the rainbow or the aurora well it says really clearly in the text so i don't

02:26:38.720 think we gotta gotta play with it over much which is which is handy um it's described and is told to

02:26:48.720 us uh they must have seen it it may be that you call it rainbow when talking about the frost um

02:26:57.840 and that in the in the actual test or a text is uh reagan boga so it it clearly says that it was

02:27:08.320 seen and understood as as the rainbow and that makes sense as it clearly you know goes up into

02:27:14.640 the heavens and especially when you often don't see it in its full you know hoop you see one of the

02:27:23.440 arcs um so yeah and that's there and it's in this poem it's in the guild forgetting which i think is

02:27:34.080 all of these all of these questions can be answered in guilt getting maybe not

02:27:38.560 quite a bit of them can i think that's why this is such a um a seminal text for what we're doing

02:27:44.960 what are the worst sins that someone can commit in ausitry what would have been done to the

02:27:57.860 perpetrators at the height of ausitry and what would be done in modern times it's fun

02:28:04.100 what would you say to that oh I would definitely say that um and this seems to be pervading over

02:28:12.080 all Arian or Proto-Indo-European. Faith is kinslaying. This kind of manifests in different

02:28:27.900 ways. We see it sometimes with the fact that during the migration era, when whole groups

02:28:35.880 of people were moving um the that the elderly um sometimes were um given a kind of swift the swift

02:28:48.280 death so that the whole group could keep moving because they wouldn't be able to move with them

02:28:54.760 and they didn't want to leave them behind um it was never done by someone in the family it was

02:29:00.760 always done by someone outside of the biological bloodline and so i think that's one point that

02:29:08.120 shows a heavy emphasis of um not slaying uh kin we also mention it with uh loki as haiti

02:29:18.040 as the kin slayer uh being the blood brother to lord odin thinking that he could push the

02:29:27.240 kinslaying upon another but by extension and very poetically it is that haldur and loki are in

02:29:37.720 essence both brothers and um that is the true poetic tragedy of of the stories is the kinslaying

02:29:47.080 of a of a brother or of of someone of blood um whether it's blood brotherhood or biological and

02:29:56.120 And that seems to be not deeply differentiated in Nordic society, which is another reason why I think kinslaying is such and was such an important point was that blood brotherhood was so highly respected that, in essence, it was comparative to biology.

02:30:17.760 that once you became a blood brother, if you slayed a kinsman that you're not technically

02:30:25.380 biologically related to, it was held in the same gravity. And that's huge.

02:30:34.240 There are others, but I think that is the big one. So the slaying of a child,

02:30:41.440 the slaying of um a father or a mother um and i know people will some well what do you what if

02:30:49.300 that person attacks you um yeah then you're defending yourself and trying to stop them from

02:30:55.920 doing the the very thing that's really bad um but you know i i think people just try to

02:31:02.760 go through intellectual circles to either try to yeah our our faith isn't about that

02:31:09.780 That's a very Hebrew way to look at things.

02:31:15.560 Our faith is much more about nobility of making decisions and choosing paths when things are murky.

02:31:26.740 The nobility, the Aryan-ness of our fold, is our ability to make informed decisions based on imperfect circumstance.

02:31:35.540 circumstance um you know there's a lot of what about kinslang what if your brother is trying to

02:31:44.340 kill your dad you know what if whatever you've got to do what you've got to do there's not a

02:31:48.760 perfect answer but the principle is what matters or you know your brother's a horrible serial 1.00

02:31:56.280 killer and he's out you know doing stuff in the community and you can be the one to take care of

02:32:00.280 or you can let somebody else or what about this that's not the point the point is your

02:32:08.840 supreme loyalty to your family and your kin and the responsibility that that entails

02:32:17.720 and that that is is such a huge important part of our our faith and our honor um

02:32:24.920 you know, again, to harken back to the text that we are studying, it talks about

02:32:32.160 Naustrum and those that find themselves there. And so it talks about, you know,

02:32:41.200 oath breakers, talks about specifically, which I thought was a cool term. I'm trying to find it in

02:32:51.660 the, in the, in the text here. Now my, my searching is, is failing me. So I'll find it in a second,

02:33:10.280 but specifically wolfish murderers. And I think that the wolfish murderers is actually 0.90

02:33:21.600 from the Volusval. It's something like, anyways, regardless. But the idea of like, tricking 1.00

02:33:35.040 people and laying in wait and like, you know, slaying them, you know, sneaking out of the 0.71

02:33:39.820 bushes and slaying them as opposed to it. And that was a really important distinction

02:33:44.040 our ancestors between like face to face uh killing of your foe and like treachery so um

02:33:53.880 oath breakers like treacherous murderers that lie in wait and people that

02:33:59.240 you know sneak around and steal other men's wives um so treachery disloyalty to kin disloyalty to 0.79

02:34:10.520 your tribe your king the gods um those are some of the worst things

02:34:19.480 disloyalty to a solemn vow that you've made is one of the worst things

02:34:26.200 uh other things that are particularly bad again is is um those who who flee in the face of the 0.94

02:34:36.120 enemy and shirk their duty and you know deviance like homosexuality and i think that would extend 0.77

02:34:45.720 other unnatural levels of perversion like you know uh pedophilia and things but you know you hear 0.96

02:34:56.040 in germania about you know they'd hang thieves and murderers and such as an example like hey 0.98

02:35:06.840 don't do this or we're gonna hang you for criminals but they would bog stomp the cowards that fled in 1.00

02:35:13.080 the face the enemy or the homosexuals because they were gross and just the thought of that was 1.00

02:35:20.040 not something that they wanted to be reminded of by that continued existence among them so 0.99

02:35:28.360 depends on you know in the in like the the prime era of also true how would those things be handled

02:35:36.840 um depends on at what time what place i mentioned kind of the bog stomping in a continental way was

02:35:43.880 a thing um you know taking vengeance communally by you know killing the offender is a thing

02:35:57.560 being able to kill the offender openly and it'd be okay because those kind of actions have those

02:36:02.920 kind of consequences of the thing the other thing which was similar was outlawry and the idea that

02:36:09.880 you're completely cut off from the protections of society because that meant that likely very

02:36:16.360 bad things would happen to you and you don't have the protection it would be lawful for people within

02:36:21.000 the society to do whatever they want to you because you don't have anybody to call upon to help you

02:36:29.080 the further question what would be done in modern times

02:36:32.600 relatively little comparatively um

02:36:41.000 we and this is this is relevant and important and something that the leadership of the afa talks

02:36:51.260 It's not a lie.

02:36:54.820 Our people, truth is one of our virtues.

02:37:01.020 Our people's soul sickness is very deep.

02:37:04.260 The precise group of people that talks the most boldly about courage and about honor and about oaths, our people break oaths all the time.

02:37:16.560 Our people hold oaths in very low regard, unfortunately.

02:37:19.780 we work towards a day where that's not the case it is where we find ourselves though unfortunate

02:37:26.200 we see that in the world all around us oaths of office are just kind of casually it's just

02:37:31.980 something you say it's not really something anybody means oaths of service very seldom do

02:37:38.140 people mean all of the wording of them marriage oaths you know we can look at the divorce rates

02:37:45.380 and things and that's very obvious in the world around us and we see that announcer true to

02:37:50.420 everybody very quick to make oaths but very seldom do we see people hold to the oaths that they make

02:37:57.300 unfortunately and again we're trying to fix that i mean it is what what it is we didn't break it

02:38:03.460 we are trying to fix it um and trying to make it better in the situation you know cowardice

02:38:10.100 a lot of our people are very very cowardly unfortunately we're trying to rebuild

02:38:18.740 courage within them and we build that strength so it's not such thing but the things that were held

02:38:26.180 common to our ancestors are very uncommon in today's world we're trying to heal that 0.87

02:38:32.820 as far as the the deviants that are dangerous and their deviancy then those people would certainly 0.92

02:38:39.300 be cut off and ostracized um one of the other things is society was able to act back then

02:38:48.980 in a unified way all too often now even amongst aussituer we don't so if

02:38:59.060 if people are are cut off

02:39:02.980 then all their austere friends a handful will cut them all the way off but the rest of them will

02:39:08.180 still hang out with them and still treat them like they're you know it's all good so there's

02:39:12.260 not a lot of lesson learned and oftentimes people don't feel the isolation of you know like an

02:39:18.980 outlaw read where anyone who is in good standing and also true would cut them off and they would

02:39:24.740 be forced to you know make some kind of reconciliation and get back right to be back

02:39:30.020 accepted in the world today are people don't um when somebody is grievously erred in their you know

02:39:40.660 severed from their association with the austral folk assembly or with other house to true art

02:39:46.180 people don't act that way they oh but he's a good guy he's my buddy and so there's not

02:39:53.700 the social mechanisms that made those kind of principles reinforced in the time of our ancestors

02:40:00.420 in the same way it just kind of is what it is unfortunately we're working to get back it's a

02:40:06.980 overnight thing i don't think it's one generational thing but we are trying to rebuild the courage

02:40:12.740 honor and dignity amongst our folk and heal that full that soul sickness has afflicted so many of

02:40:18.020 our people um i recently found out that there is no pagan representation in the u.s congress

02:40:27.620 would you consider sending a representative to washington someday it's fine what say you

02:40:34.740 i mean on behalf of the church i think that would be your decision all right well so of course we

02:40:38.900 would but i so the question is strange would we encourage a member of the afa to run for congress

02:40:46.900 Yeah, absolutely. Would like the AFA send one to Congress doesn't really work like that to where, you know, churches have their representation. Would we send a member of the AFA to serve on some kind of presidential council on religion or something?

02:41:06.080 absolutely that'd be great um as far as you know you don't run for congress as a representative of

02:41:13.280 the afa you'd run for you know representing whatever your district is and whatever state

02:41:17.520 that you're in um but yeah to get also true and specifically afa members involved politically

02:41:25.280 absolutely we certainly encourage any of our people to be as politically involved as they'd

02:41:30.080 like to be and to take an active part in politics and life and life in the public sphere and not

02:41:40.720 you know not shying away from it or hiding their their faith the more people live their faith

02:41:47.520 openly the more it paves the way for others to do so so you know we'd love that that would be

02:41:53.040 fantastic i think it also opens up a great point that you've made or maybe you can elaborate here

02:41:59.360 but you've made it to me about um the apps there isn't a disconnect that our people um

02:42:08.240 and the governance of the way that we live our lives is interconnected that we shouldn't try to

02:42:15.120 scurry away from the word politics and that you know we have every right to discuss

02:42:23.600 us the ways of governance and what ways we want to go i think uh i was even talking about this

02:42:31.900 earlier there was somebody saying oh it's not in the adas uh or this kind of i guess like political

02:42:38.900 theory or whatever it is and it's like yes but by your rationale that means we should all just

02:42:43.400 be monarchists because it's in the adas is the oh it's you know the king and uh kingdoms that's

02:42:51.220 the only way it's ever mentioned. There are many things that our ancestors did not face that we

02:42:57.180 are facing. And as you had said before, it is about that correct action. And one of those ways

02:43:05.180 is very much in the dominion of Forseti is our correct action to create good governance for our

02:43:14.880 folk going forward so i don't know if you wanted to expound on that especially because i remember

02:43:21.840 you talking about not don't shy away there's like this fear that people have of the politic so

02:43:31.200 people people do and a point raised in the chat is to lobbyist clergy you run close to challenging

02:43:37.760 your 501c3 standing so here's the thing even if you were to do that you create a separate umbrella

02:43:44.160 category under the 501 c3 i believe and you have to be very careful with the separation of funds

02:43:50.000 but i don't think that's that wasn't my implication because like i said you don't run to represent a

02:43:56.800 church you run to represent a district i would like for afa members to run as representatives

02:44:02.720 of their district who happen you know if they happen to be gothar that's fine i didn't say

02:44:09.840 that the afa or i didn't mean to apply that the afa would um you know act as a a platforming

02:44:18.160 service or a fundraising thing for that but to be involved in a you know interfaith

02:44:26.080 presidential commission or something that doesn't involve campaigning it's a finance issue that just

02:44:32.160 involves representing your church and that's a very clearly understood uh position that a lot

02:44:37.280 of different pastors and priests of other faiths are involved in but it'd be a strange thing i

02:44:43.920 think that our membership should get as involved in politics if they'd like though but i i think

02:44:48.560 that's a good opportunity to clarify so thank you for bringing that up also

02:44:54.320 how's true is world embracing and not world rejecting um

02:44:57.920 it's you shouldn't separate your faith from the way you interface with all of the things you do

02:45:08.360 in your life with your political affiliations and political positions with your interactions

02:45:16.400 with your co-workers with your stances on you know how you treat anything and everything you

02:45:25.320 do in your life all of that should be informed by your faith so that's you know that's important

02:45:32.880 to keep in mind and realize that there's not that separation you know the bible talks about how

02:45:38.820 you know a renunciation of that and how um you know you should know you live in the world you

02:45:47.760 should be no part of it and it's like separation between worldliness and godliness whatever that's

02:45:53.740 not present in our faith that is an abrahamic thing very specifically a a christian nuance

02:46:02.220 that is seldom adhered to but it's not something that's relevant in our faith um

02:46:12.300 it's fun what does rotten shark taste like

02:46:14.780 again i cannot escape um uh so it's chewy and i think the reason why it really hits first is

02:46:27.900 because of the smell the smell is very similar to like a pneumonia or strangely enough i was boiling

02:46:37.980 parsnips and one and there was a smell that came from them it was very similar uh this kind there

02:46:45.740 is this kind of a stinging smell to it or just a pungency and then you know despite it being chewy

02:46:53.580 the closest thing i could think of is it's it's like a cheese it's like a chewier um blue cheese

02:47:02.620 that's more dense and i know that some people because blue cheese dressing they think this

02:47:07.980 is very soft but no like in a dense form like if you were to take a cut of it um and it it doesn't

02:47:15.500 break apart it it uh it has kind of a chewiness but it's the the ammonia smell or the pungency

02:47:27.340 smell and most people kind of just only associate like ammonia in that realm and that's why i brought

02:47:34.540 up the part about the parsnips is because i've had a similar like i that smells like how carl but um

02:47:42.940 i would say it like a chewy cheese not quite on the level of say like an octopus or a squid

02:47:49.020 not that chewy um one down from that and then one above cheese that's the way the best way i

02:47:59.540 can describe it and then it does have like a an aftertaste of of that smell it's like the smell

02:48:07.400 hits you you eat it and then it lingers a bit and that's why they they uh drink the brinevin

02:48:13.640 the the burnt wine which is it's a misnomer it's kind of like the same as brandy wine brandy

02:48:20.820 or brand a fire brand in the in the uh utilizing it to to kind of boil the wine down and remove

02:48:29.680 the water so it can be shipped um it means like burnt wine but it's really it's uh it's a spirit

02:48:38.580 that is drunk and that tastes like pumpernickel so when you eat the fish and then drink the

02:48:46.400 brinevin it removes the more pungent aftertaste that settles in with a pumpernickel flavor

02:48:54.220 and so and both of them are kind of nutty and i don't know some people like it it's an acquired

02:49:00.060 taste um i'm kind of indifferent on it i don't seek it out but nor will i turn it away

02:49:06.760 Spawn is an expert, but I would not see the similarity between blue cheese, because blue

02:49:16.240 cheese is delicious, and rotten shark is gross, and yeah, it tastes super ammonia-y.

02:49:27.260 But you can get through it.

02:49:28.700 I have eaten it.

02:49:29.700 I would eat a piece again if I was dare to or my manhood was challenged.

02:49:39.360 It's not good.

02:49:41.040 I'll tell you that.

02:49:41.840 It's not good.

02:49:43.020 Yeah, it's a survival food.

02:49:46.820 That's really what it is because of refrigeration issues and things like that.

02:49:52.520 before i ate a big you know big steak of rotten shark i'd be getting pretty close to death's door

02:49:59.000 before that sounded like you literally salt your cod you live in a cold environment put your food

02:50:06.120 in the ground don't let it rot first oh so rocks okay so speaking of combining those things eskimos

02:50:16.200 like to take salmon bury it in the ground and let it rot and then they'll eat it and it's like a 0.93

02:50:23.920 spreadable cheese-like substance after it rots for a while right well and rot is kind of a

02:50:33.100 misnomer as the rotting part is they're pressing the meat um and it's strange how they they may not

02:50:44.660 have known the reason, like other than the, a side effect of it is that if you didn't eat it

02:50:49.880 pressed, it caused problems. And I think that's because there is a certain amount of mercury in

02:50:56.760 the flesh of a shark, um, that in higher concentrations, but they knew that if you

02:51:02.820 pressed it, that went away. So there's this pressing. And then once it's pulled up and out,

02:51:08.820 it's smoked so i mean i wouldn't necessarily say it's it's just like rotting it's not laying out

02:51:15.380 or being that that rotting part is about the pressing process but taste it it doesn't taste

02:51:22.660 like fresh shark no but that that could get you all kinds of poisons i guess it's a curing process

02:51:31.620 it's gross um so swan what's your take on this because it can mean different things

02:51:38.660 i've often heard the term of venic consciousness or similar terminology

02:51:44.660 does such a thing actually exist or is it spiritual egotism

02:51:53.300 well one thing i've definitely i think you and i have discussed at

02:51:59.300 uh length about how lord odin and uh one aspect of his dominion is the literal folk consciousness

02:52:08.740 the the god of consciousness um especially in his interconnection with the soul through

02:52:15.300 the sacred breath of ond the animation and also our ability to formulate word and place ourselves

02:52:24.180 in context um in the future which uh animals do not seem to be able to do

02:52:30.660 they base everything off of what they have kind of inherited or learned from their predecessors um

02:52:42.980 so odinic consciousness i think predominantly what it means when you're when someone's saying

02:52:48.340 it today, is they're kind of referring to perhaps even the same as if they were to say

02:52:53.200 Faustian consciousness or the idea of becoming a honed mind or leveling up into a mind of

02:53:04.720 greater consciousness or understanding. And the pathways to do that are never really specified

02:53:10.040 by anyone. I mean, I think other certain people have perhaps different ways that they might say

02:53:16.840 it's something about abstaining and focus and meditation and working out, and they make it

02:53:25.680 very material-based, and then perhaps others think that it might be solely in the realm of, say,

02:53:33.060 I don't know, psychedelics or something. But I think what they're trying to correlate is that

02:53:41.020 the higher consciousness is an attempt to be like Lord Odin. And I think that, I mean, one,

02:53:53.040 that's complimentary praise towards the lord of the consciousness of the folk. He is obviously

02:54:01.040 just very, the one of the Aesir who synthesized with Yggdrasil and traveled the circulatory

02:54:08.740 system of creation to the very source of things um there's a lot of magnificence there and i think

02:54:16.100 that does imply that but i think what it's ultimately kind of referring to is this a

02:54:22.100 attempt to achieve this super self um and we kind of talk about that with our attainment of what we

02:54:32.020 would call the the other self and we talked about other just a little well a passioned self um the

02:54:40.900 the the awareness of committing uh where the soul and the mind and the body are completely unified

02:54:49.860 in action um into kind of a a primogen uh primogen of the self the the highest that one can achieve

02:54:59.140 even in that moment.

02:55:00.960 And that even the idea is that in that moment you get there

02:55:03.980 and then you could falter later or pass over it

02:55:07.560 and then descend from it.

02:55:08.900 So it's kind of like the zenith of action, body and mind

02:55:14.660 all in one to perhaps even create great swaths of change

02:55:20.780 in fate or or law attaining that moment.

02:55:25.780 that moment um i think the odinic consciousness kind of omits the physical and the spiritual

02:55:36.900 and so it's often used by people who look at the gods concept cons or conceptually or archetypally

02:55:44.900 and you got to be careful with that part i don't think the gods are archetypes and um but if they

02:55:51.620 do mean it in a pious sense that they they wish to attain and keep challenging themselves and

02:55:59.380 moving forward and seeking uh letting no shadow go unexplored and let no horizon go untouched and

02:56:06.100 let no sky um you know there there is a certain manifestation of of energy in that thought that

02:56:13.860 i think is very very noble and good and is is much of what drives our people and that drive

02:56:23.140 is that lord odin is that consciousness so the odinic consciousness of our people is with us

02:56:28.740 he gave that to us that is and it and it shows up in the things that we do like attaining

02:56:36.900 attaining the moon or going west and and beyond or or building societies that fire that passion

02:56:47.380 to do those things and break those boundaries is the gift that lord odin gave us or the other and

02:56:55.380 last and final thing is if he you know the the giving that is in us is there if it is there

02:57:03.620 then perhaps the odinic consciousness is when we reach the connective point we work our way

02:57:11.860 to the perfect self and that

02:57:15.780 synthesizes with the odinic consciousness that he has given to us in on but

02:57:23.540 it's kind of a hard concept and i think you're referring predominantly to the modern so i don't

02:57:30.020 that's i think when people say that there's a bunch of different meanings and the details really

02:57:36.420 really matter um one sense is the people trying to emulate odin and if you self-actualize enough

02:57:52.100 you reach some kind of otan level of stuff and i don't think that's real i think that is

02:58:00.420 egotism and presumptuous i don't think it works that way he's the god of consciousness he's the

02:58:08.340 king of the gods i don't think you become that um if it's to tap into some kind of

02:58:19.140 of over consciousness that you can merge with thing that's more often expressed as the folk

02:58:28.020 soul and even in that sense i don't think it's like a nirvana melding of things i think it's a

02:58:36.820 inherited consciousness that we pull from in terms of ancestral memory and things

02:58:43.940 um but the other thing is the the woed self or the other self which is the

02:58:53.700 attaining the most actualized like perfect version of the self that you can be and again

02:59:05.600 i don't think that happens but i think it's like the what is the parabola what's the um

02:59:10.940 thing where you trend ever ever closer to the line and you don't quite touch it but you get

02:59:16.780 ever closer and closer and closer the quest to merge the person that you are with like the

02:59:23.180 idealized perfect version of yourself like your higher self the you know the best form of you

02:59:33.740 that quest i think is really important and uh we talk about that as a concept a lot

02:59:40.940 But as a standalone Odinic consciousness thing,

02:59:46.540 like I don't think you merge with Odin.

02:59:49.500 That's not what we do.

02:59:50.800 Maintaining individual consciousness is very fundamental to us

02:59:55.200 and how we practice.

02:59:57.260 I'd like to acknowledge Frank in North Carolina

03:00:01.040 who donated $10 each towards Thorshoff, Freyshoff,

03:00:05.540 and towards fixing the heat at Thorshoff.

03:00:08.560 Thank you for that, Frank.

03:00:09.620 We appreciate you.

03:00:10.940 Next up, it's confusing to me how one can be pious and one can brag as well. A pious braggart? Svon, break that down, if you would.

03:00:28.000 Well, I think that there's a misunderstanding in the perception of this. Obviously, bragging today, when we say bragging, there's a clear connection that we make to the idea of puffing oneself up and all of this.

03:00:53.340 um but the the idea of bragging in the context that we're talking about is more like praise

03:01:01.420 now you can be pious and there's clearly a connection to piety and praise when you are

03:01:09.000 praising uh one of the divine or someone else and and that has become socially acceptable

03:01:20.240 And there's that clear connectivity, but there is a downturning away from praising one's self that is kind of turned the nose is turned up at and that's mainly because of the Abrahamic faith Christianity that has been brought into Europe.

03:01:42.620 there is this um over like sense that this is about pride and pride is a sin and that's where

03:01:53.020 that's where the true fissure is you cut it all down and it goes back to um

03:02:01.660 pride and and and it's it's interesting because it's not always consistent um there will be uh

03:02:10.220 speeches leaders of war bands fighting for the glory of christendom or or keeping europe

03:02:18.620 christian and they say i have defeated my enemy here and i've defeated my enemy here i will defeat

03:02:24.060 the enemy now and so he's singing praise of himself in his convictions and it's not considered bragging

03:02:33.100 but it is and especially in the context of the way that we're applying it

03:02:40.200 so when you brag when you sing the praises of oneself um you're not doing it so much of the

03:02:50.220 puff point um it is more about the uh exclamation of deeds and again whether it's done

03:03:02.680 for the God, whether it's done for your people or whether it's done for your family or even

03:03:08.920 for the betterment of yourself that doesn't degrade it and make it like you're speaking

03:03:17.600 flippant about something. So that's the reason why it isn't the same as the modern usage of the

03:03:26.920 word bragging. And I would equate it to praise. It's praise of the divine. It's praise of the

03:03:34.480 lineage. It's praise of your people. It's praise of your deeds and praise of your deeds and how it

03:03:41.940 affects all of that. And the things that you are doing to bring people home to the gods or to

03:03:52.640 defend your nation or to ensure the safety of your family and the sacrifices that you made

03:03:59.200 to get there and you are speaking them out loud and ultimately it's not taboo in our in our society

03:04:08.940 because the abrahamic concept of pride being a sin is where that makes it taboo

03:04:19.700 yeah it context is the key um

03:04:25.860 so i'm trying to think of where to start on it so yeah bragging means what you think it means

03:04:36.620 but the context matters

03:04:39.300 if we're all sitting around not talking about how awesome we are

03:04:48.220 and you're just over there like yeah i'm this guy i'm the smartest guy that i've ever met i did this 0.98

03:04:55.880 thing i'm great then yeah you end up looking like a jerk but if we're all going around the table 0.97

03:05:02.220 telling about our deeds and our accomplishments 0.98

03:05:04.720 if you didn't you'd be odd um in our tradition in our society and again i say that

03:05:18.160 the society we hearken back to we're all a product of the world that we're raised in

03:05:22.560 and all of us know that you don't talk about how great you are all the time it's socially

03:05:27.840 unacceptable because that's not the norm where you're at um and again it goes to all the things

03:05:35.600 as far as talking about with christian or standing in pride but i want to say bragging

03:05:39.360 is not just about your family or your tribe or gods it's about you but it's expected

03:05:46.720 In a properly ordered area in society, reputation is everything.

03:05:56.480 So you need to legitimize your worth.

03:06:02.660 Like when you do a resume, it's not bragging.

03:06:06.680 You're letting people who you know are going to be evaluating your suitability to a position

03:06:11.500 know about your accomplishments your experience the things you bring to the table your strengths

03:06:18.140 that's not thought to be bragging it's just what the expectation is because the context

03:06:26.320 so yeah you'd have a round of drinking where you said hey you know i accomplished this thing this

03:06:32.340 is a victory i won i did this i did that you're giving a testimonial of your worth

03:06:40.520 to these people that you're introducing yourself to.

03:06:45.880 A line that we use a lot in Ossetree

03:06:48.040 that I don't think we always think about the implications of

03:06:50.420 is we are our deeds.

03:06:52.300 If you are your deeds,

03:06:54.900 then, you know, it's not useful for me to say,

03:06:58.600 hi, my name is Matt.

03:06:59.700 It's useful for me to say, hi, I am the champion of this.

03:07:03.440 I am the slayer of this guy.

03:07:05.740 I am the hero of this battle.

03:07:08.460 I am the, you know, builder of this and the, you know, talking about your deeds.

03:07:17.760 We literally, that's, we are our deeds.

03:07:20.420 That's what recommends us, what gives us worth.

03:07:23.140 The idea of establishing worth is extremely fundamental.

03:07:26.980 And it's fundamental to piety.

03:07:28.760 It ties it into piety.

03:07:30.740 Worship means and comes from the root of worth-ship,

03:07:35.360 or assigning worthiness to something.

03:07:39.280 We worship the gods by recognizing that they are worthy.

03:07:44.220 We extol their worthiness or their worth.

03:07:48.700 It's the same thing you would want to do with heroes and with your friends

03:07:53.740 and with your associates is establish and then testify to their worth in front of people.

03:08:01.040 it's part of our marriage tradition too with the uh um uh maid of honor and the and the uh

03:08:10.240 the best man in also true weddings we often have those people proclaim the worth of the

03:08:17.200 person to be married to demonstrate to those assembled into the family of of you know the

03:08:23.200 other person that hey this guy or this gal is worthy of your son and your daughter this person's

03:08:28.720 somebody of worth um you know i also i often during bloat mention that we give worship through

03:08:39.440 the energy we put in the horn through the offering but we also worship by deed worship

03:08:46.960 by our accomplishments by being you know worthy our gods are magnified when they are worshiped

03:08:53.120 by great people. So we honor them by being people worthy of being proud of. So the establishment

03:09:01.680 and the legitimizing of our worth in front of our peers, in front of our gods, in front of people

03:09:07.700 that we care about is really important. The modern context has a baked in rudeness that wasn't there,

03:09:16.940 but the idea of talking about how great you are absolutely but that's okay if we're in a room of

03:09:24.900 people that that's what the expectation is is hey this is what i bring to the table and you're

03:09:29.780 expected to then tell me what you bring to the table it doesn't have the same ugliness to it

03:09:36.300 um but i mean we all know that we all have that baked in but we have a a toxic like

03:09:45.600 fake humility thing that we do a lot of the time and when we can it could come from

03:09:54.480 i don't know our history of blessed are the meek blessed are the losers and this yeah no that's

03:10:00.020 exactly the assignment of piety to mean or piousness to mean like i don't know ashamedly

03:10:06.580 humble or useless literally uh that man is saved by faith alone that none might boast 0.98

03:10:18.420 it literally is like no you suck jesus is the only way to salvation 1.00

03:10:27.300 because you have nothing to brag about because you're worthless and that's kind of what that 0.98

03:10:34.340 faith teaches but so we do that and sometimes people take us literally and fundamentally it's

03:10:40.260 dishonest um i remember remember we took my friend out to a bar um he was not great with the ladies

03:10:49.480 and uh you know he was telling them how lame he was and women that were interested were very

03:10:59.620 quickly not interested because he was trying to be overly humble and he's like well they're like

03:11:05.300 hey you want to dance and he's like well i'm not a very good dancer and you know i usually don't

03:11:10.140 you know i'm not very good with women they're like okay thank you and what about the business

03:11:15.380 um we get stuck in these false humilities that i think with truth being one of our virtues we 0.99

03:11:25.680 you try to be aware of and try to avoid a little bit our founding fathers generation were geniuses

03:11:32.320 and they were tremendously virtuous men in a lot of ways but it's always kind of gross when you

03:11:37.680 read their letters and like you know george washington will be writing to some you know

03:11:43.680 pretty lowly person and he will sign off as your humble servant whatever you're not nobody's

03:11:50.240 servant what are you talking about you have these people that will be high levels of aristocracy

03:11:56.000 like racing to be as servile and as meek in their signing off letters as they can because

03:12:03.840 it just became fashionable to be like overly humble and it's kind of gross and it's certainly 0.98

03:12:09.280 not not an honest use of language so there's a difference between being a jerk there's certainly 0.98

03:12:15.600 a difference between being dishonest and overblowing your claims of accomplishment 0.97

03:12:22.560 and honestly giving people a you know presenting a resume when you go somewhere hey this is who i

03:12:30.160 am this is what i've done this is where i've been so you know who you're dealing with it's a very

03:12:35.200 honest and open-handed way of dealing with each other it just is predicated upon the expectation

03:12:41.520 that the people you're talking to are going to do the same if you're the only one in the room 0.99

03:12:45.920 doing it then you look like a jerk um all right last question of the night and we clearly have 0.98

03:12:56.480 a lot more goddesses we will go through and we'll continue to do that but last question of the night 0.99

03:13:03.280 are there any members of the afa who practice yoga is yoga practice whether for exercise or

03:13:09.840 spiritual reasons allowed in the afa and is yoga compatible with asa true as a religion swan

03:13:19.600 um there's multiple parts of that i mean i'm sure there's people in the um afa who practice yoga

03:13:27.920 and okay okay okay it's fine are there any members who practice yoga uh

03:13:33.200 Yes. I don't know, but I'm sure there probably is.

03:13:39.860 Yes, there are many people who practice yoga in the Astroful Assembly.

03:13:44.720 Not so many that I would say it is the norm, but yes, there are AFA members that practice yoga.

03:13:51.640 Svahn, is yoga practice, whether for exercise or spiritual reasons, allowed in the AFA?

03:13:58.000 I don't think it's prohibited at all.

03:14:00.600 It is absolutely not prohibited.

03:14:02.560 Yeah.

03:14:03.200 Svon, is yoga compatible with Asatru as a religion?

03:14:11.920 Compatibility. I don't see it as incompatible. I think it is much the same as if a member was to

03:14:24.880 do a Japanese martial art. The benefits that they gain can help them, but that there is no direct

03:14:32.880 sort of disjointedness between the two um because of whatever kind of nature it is

03:14:43.420 now when you start to get into yoga as a hindu practice that's where it gets very interesting

03:14:50.200 because a lot of yoga practice in the west is disconnected from or marginally

03:14:58.820 uh in the zone the gray zone if you will uh of of the religious connectivity to hinduism

03:15:08.340 um but if you know if you're going to do hot yoga at a place to uh better your health and

03:15:19.100 and get and still your mind um i don't think that that's bad at all and it's very um

03:15:27.160 parallelly moving with the spiritual faith of of your folk um just like meditation or

03:15:36.600 martial arts or pursuing things um that train and hone you to be a better person

03:15:42.940 um but if you do it and do it kind of in in the sense of like hindu spiritualism and

03:15:52.800 um i don't know exactly how deep that goes in because i'm not hindu um i would then begin to

03:16:04.320 say okay this is perhaps uh creating this differential because a lot of people like to

03:16:15.280 I mean, the origins of Hinduism come from the Araya, but what is Hinduism today is very much affected by not the Araya.

03:16:25.260 And so that's where it kind of gets a little dicey.

03:16:29.400 But as far as, you know, going to a local school and practicing and trying to attempt to become more flexible and to become more focused and still in your mind and reducing stress and all of that,

03:16:43.360 I kind of compare that to other forms of personal training, and I don't think that that conflicts at all.

03:16:57.720 Yeah, again, yoga means so many different things to so many different people,

03:17:03.620 and it's kind of implied in the question that people use it for exercise, people use it for meditation.

03:17:09.400 there's all kinds of different styles of yoga

03:17:14.600 I think Hinduism 0.86

03:17:18.080 isn't one for one 0.98

03:17:22.400 compatible with Asatru

03:17:23.880 I think the points of similarity

03:17:29.720 or recognizing stuff

03:17:33.620 and incorporating a principle

03:17:36.300 or a little piece of something that has a relevance isn't, you know, forbidden or whatever.

03:17:42.720 But I think that you want to practice house and true.

03:17:46.020 But I think that, you know, mantra work is very beneficial and can be easily adapted to Rungalder.

03:17:55.400 there's a lot of people that do various yoga

03:18:01.880 poses and other forms of meditation to further their ostrich practice which i think

03:18:08.920 probably does have very similar roots in deep deep antiquity um i was trying to google

03:18:17.080 waltz farm is talking there's these horns that have very the body positions yeah they have almost

03:18:26.440 yoga body positioning on it um you have like the lotus kind of position that uh karenunas is in

03:18:35.480 in the gunstroke cauldron um there's poses that you see in a lot of um

03:18:44.600 carving an art of our ancestors that

03:18:49.820 would imply some kind of forms or physical physically connected

03:18:59.620 like spiritually connected physical form practice some of those seated or more traditional what you

03:19:07.620 think of as yoga that exists we should think of the name of those horns anyways um

03:19:14.080 so yeah i think that there's a compatibility and overlap i know a lot of in the romantic period in

03:19:22.080 the early runic awakening in germany there was a lot of talk about room yoga um that's a practice

03:19:28.480 that some people still do of getting in different um poses for you to practice um

03:19:36.960 yeah mantra that was also something mentioned in the chat was mantra as well as mala

03:19:44.080 using mala beads yeah yeah runic yeah and meditation certainly is compatible and very

03:19:53.040 beneficial and i would encourage some of that um there's so there i think there's a lot of overlap

03:20:03.040 i think trying to pretend you're hindu is not helpful i think you know keeping it also true

03:20:10.880 and keeping house true the focus but using techniques like the physical forms to do that

03:20:17.040 i think is really beneficial i think using sound in the way that mantra works is very effective

03:20:25.120 i think working on meditation to clear your mind and focus your intentionality focus your

03:20:33.920 contemplation of the gods i think all of those are very useful and worthwhile things for us to

03:20:41.360 incorporate an aussiturist especially in an individual aussitry practice i think that's

03:20:47.600 really beneficial and i know a lot of a lot of our folk do that in different ways um i mean i do

03:20:55.680 in different ways i suppose meditatively with galdron work with some other things our law

03:21:02.080 speaker uh has a has a very you know significant yoga practice and meditative practice that way

03:21:09.600 again yoga means different things sometimes it means the physical poses sometimes it's just

03:21:13.600 about breath and meditation work all of that i think is very relevant and probably

03:21:21.120 versions of that are things very similar were probably practiced by our ancestors

03:21:25.680 so we continue with our going through the guild beginning there are many guesses still to cover

03:21:34.700 you know lately i've been trying to keep these at you know three hours or so we're starting a

03:21:40.860 little bit later for me where i'm at now so i'm kind of unifying that a little bit it's not a

03:21:45.920 hard rule it's just kind of where i'm cutting it off because i don't want to cut any of it short 0.97

03:21:49.920 i want to cover it all and especially give attention to these goddesses um that don't

03:21:55.600 get a lot of attention otherwise i think it's really important and i'm glad you guys are

03:22:00.800 with us on this uh on this journey through the gilf again um next week got a treat for you guys

03:22:10.160 we will have folk builder chris savage on again to do one of his amazing history presentations

03:22:16.560 this time about uh king radbod and the uh the struggle for for freesia so that should be

03:22:26.480 exciting he always does an amazing job with that and here in in two weeks swan will return and we

03:22:35.120 will talk about more of our our ausenior so thank you guys for joining us tonight swan thank you for

03:22:41.360 being on the show as always thank you for having me thank you to all the people that donated

03:22:46.720 tonight we appreciate you guys it's always you know cool to see a bump at the different things

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03:22:57.760 don't ever take it for granted guys are awesome look forward to talking to you again next week

03:23:06.080 Until then, hail the Aesir, hail the folk, hail the AFA, and remember, victory never sleeps.

03:23:13.200 Bye again.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - April 02, 2026

4⧸1⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 195 - Prose Edda： Gylfaginning, Part 6

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