Asatru Folk Assembly - 4⧸15⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 197 - Prose Edda： Gylfaginning, Part 7

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00:03:00.000 hello everyone and welcome to this week's exciting edition of victory never sleeps

00:03:11.220 tonight we will be on part seven of going through the guilt beginning we're definitely

00:03:17.600 taking our time with this one but intentionally so it's a very important foundational piece of

00:03:24.380 lore and it lays out our ancestral faith in a very very straightforward way that's extremely

00:03:33.500 beneficial for us practicing house of truth last left off talking about the the house in europe

00:03:45.820 there are several with little snippets but they're definitely worth us making note of

00:03:54.380 and you know taking the time on so we'll be going through that today um as we continue

00:04:02.860 with maidens of fence hour i'm going to read the i'm going to read the little snippets because

00:04:12.140 they're just tiny a little sentence here a sentence there and go into uh also how they're 0.78

00:04:17.260 addressed in the house to flesh out who these who these goddesses that make up Frigg's court are

00:04:30.300 Spahn do you remember where we left off last week yes we we had covered um the goddess of love

00:04:41.020 Sovan, and we were just about to go into Loven. Okay. The goddess of reconciliations. And

00:04:53.900 I know that because of the controversy kind of surrounding the holy goddess of reconciliations.

00:05:02.860 sure yeah sure and uh so we will get into that here in a second anybody following along we are

00:05:11.180 going through the text at the list bow dot org and i will be reading pieces of the astro true

00:05:19.340 trulogmo both of which nick can post a link for anybody who's curious the trulogmo is

00:05:26.460 um something that we put out a few years ago as a concise statement of the fundamentals of

00:05:36.940 astro focus assembly belief and practice and it was created very intentionally to be um

00:05:45.260 accessible to both long you know long time austral practitioners but also to

00:05:52.380 you know the the folks that maybe heard about us for the first time and you know wonder hey what

00:05:57.780 do you guys believe this you know in that document is kind of a fundamentals of what we believe

00:06:03.760 and it's very much a these things are what we believe not a list of things we don't believe

00:06:10.220 or a limitations to our belief but these are the very fundamental things that are

00:06:16.900 are a core to our belief system so it's not meant to cover all the possible things that we might

00:06:22.660 believe but it's to cover like these are the fundamentals that you that you need to believe

00:06:31.700 uh top of the show stuff i'm excited to join our friends at phrasehof this weekend for a celebration

00:06:41.220 of Nornanot. I would encourage everyone out there at all of our Hoffs, Nornanot will be celebrated

00:06:49.380 on Saturday. So if you find yourself anywhere that's practical for you or you and your family

00:06:56.500 to attend, please come on out to one of our Hoffs and celebrate with us. This month I'm excited

00:07:03.620 because I will get to show Mandy and Aubrey, my wife and daughter, a phrase Hoff for the very

00:07:10.120 first time and we're very proud of it it's a it's an amazing place and i am looking forward to

00:07:15.480 them having that experience um other top of the show stuff uh first before i hit that

00:07:23.960 uh gw farnsworth as always you start us off with your generosity thank you donated 25 each

00:07:31.400 to the sigerheim uh fund and to the thor's hop heat giving situated so we appreciate that

00:07:38.440 tremendously jeff in texas donated twenty dollars towards the cigerham pavilion

00:07:46.120 that's fantastic we appreciate you and steven in japan donated ten dollars to phrasehoff and five

00:07:57.880 to something unspecified at my notes as i recall five dollars towards the thorshoff heat i think

00:08:05.240 So thank you very much for that, Stephen.

00:08:07.020 And Gilbert donated $150 towards the file.

00:08:11.260 Appreciate you guys so much.

00:08:14.520 Where are we at, Nick, in our pay down of our debt on phrase-off?

00:08:20.420 Keep you guys abreast, as I do every week on here.

00:08:24.200 We are 37.9% paid off.

00:08:28.300 Roughly $105 per member would get that paid off today.

00:08:32.900 we appreciate everyone's help on it and then new project that you guys may not have heard about

00:08:38.580 that i'm excited about doing um erecting this pavilion or one very very similar at uh sigger

00:08:47.300 uh we've got you know there's things in the works to erect tiershoff there but that's coming after

00:08:54.420 phrasehoff has paid off and we have um you know eventually in the long term we want to have a

00:09:01.060 great hall there that will be you know kind of the big gathering hall capital of the astro folk

00:09:07.220 assembly but again that's a long ways off in the meantime we would like to break ground and erect

00:09:13.620 a pavilion there so that we have space together we want to hold our our big event there and

00:09:19.700 monthly events there that's a nice place to sit under some shade out of the weather and enjoy

00:09:26.740 this safer property with one another and um yeah it's we got a very doable plan for something

00:09:33.620 really spectacular with a good price point and volunteers wanting to put in the work to erect

00:09:40.020 that and make it happen so i'm excited to see how we can come along on that kind of an update the

00:09:48.740 and the idea in the long term still remains to do the big national event at uh at siggerham at

00:09:54.740 at Sigurblood. But July is very hot and humid in Central Tennessee, or yeah, in Central Tennessee,

00:10:03.760 and we don't have AC set up, and it's a little bit rough for visitors. So this year, we're going

00:10:11.560 to try doing our big, you know, focal point event for the year being Feast of the Einherjahr. We'll

00:10:17.320 be doing Einherjahr bloat at Sigurblood in November, and that should be a beautiful time

00:10:23.900 for everyone together in central tennessee and it will be made all the better if we can get this

00:10:28.860 pavilion erected by humans we appreciate your generous donations and those who've stepped

00:10:34.780 forward and volunteered to help with that we're really excited to see that picking up momentum

00:10:42.540 yeah anybody who's not familiar my family and i moved down here to be close to cigerheim in

00:10:49.980 february and trying to for a number of years and since we've gotten down here we've really

00:10:54.860 tried to do what we can to help pick up the momentum of getting people to move to the area

00:11:00.140 to be active in the area and to really get um get that positive momentum in that community

00:11:11.020 working to our benefit here in tennessee so that's what we're that's what we're looking at

00:11:16.700 that's what we're doing and thank you guys who have helped to make that happen and one other

00:11:22.460 thing about the pavilion that i know you've noted before and i think we noted it in the write-up

00:11:26.700 it's important to remember yes the pavilion is great while we're sitting there in the middle of

00:11:30.700 the field and while we're while we're working on building the half and the hall but a pavilion is

00:11:36.700 also something people love eating being outside and gathering under pavilions all year long

00:11:42.780 it's a it's going to be something that's going to be useful long after we have a hop and hall too

00:11:48.820 well yeah that's very much one of the things it's part of the long-term vision of what we go there

00:11:55.200 and it's something we're going to want and it's something you know the size and scope of it is

00:12:00.720 it's pretty big but that's because it is part of that long-term vision it's something we're

00:12:06.180 always going to want there. And the one that we have our sights set on should accommodate us for

00:12:14.240 a number of years to come and be a really, really good thing for us. So we're pretty excited about

00:12:19.580 that. Like I say, we've got, I've been talking to a member who wants to do the earth work at the

00:12:25.720 early stages to get the pads set up. We have concrete guys that would like to get the concrete

00:12:34.540 foundation set up so we have we have people stepping forward wanting to

00:12:39.820 volunteer to make the project happen so very thankful to those folks that

00:12:51.180 sorry just looking at stuff over in chat room for a second making sure on where

00:12:56.100 we're at so you guys know and kind of something to say before we start into it

00:13:02.380 here this program is you know we have a theme that we go over and and talk about but we also

00:13:10.140 divide up the time um answering questions so it's very much question and answer based

00:13:16.060 program anybody who has questions please feel free to ask them at any time

00:13:21.260 and if you have a question that comes to you outside of the live broadcast please send those

00:13:26.940 to vns at runestone dot org and we'll get to them at our next our next opportunity

00:13:37.500 all right so we are in guild beginning uh section 35

00:13:48.060 if you guys see me playing with my eyes tonight my allergies are spring has sprung down here and

00:13:55.500 And it seems to be hitting me all in the eyes.

00:13:59.140 So bear with me if that's a thing.

00:14:04.260 The eighth is loving.

00:14:07.700 She is so gracious and kindly to those that call upon her

00:14:11.420 that she wins all fathers or Frigg's permission

00:14:15.240 for the coming together of mankind in marriage,

00:14:18.500 of women and of men that were forbidden before

00:14:22.180 seem flatly denied. For her name, such permission is called leave. And thus also she is much loved

00:14:32.600 of men. In the Shulagmo, Logan is the comforter. She is a special comfort to those struggling in

00:14:46.420 love. Logan is the patroness of those who struggle in love. Seems straightforward. One

00:15:01.020 of the... I was having a discussion with someone about this recently, of kind of the unique

00:15:09.020 position that these goddesses play.

00:15:14.720 We see Frigg having a court of goddesses that attend her and that deal with these really

00:15:21.600 specialized relationship matters, and I think that's really important.

00:15:32.980 you know i struggle with this list of the of the awesome year in the sense that

00:15:38.980 there are two kind of great goddesses of our folk that are of a magnitude that seems to be higher

00:15:46.420 than the other the maidens of fence island they very much seem to be a subordinate to frigg and

00:15:53.460 members of her court that you know assist her and assist those interacting with her in a

00:16:03.380 intercessory manner in a way they have very unique things and you don't see that

00:16:12.980 for example you don't see odin having a court of lesser gods that do do his bidding in the

00:16:21.700 same way this is a really special circumstance and they're all very concerned with um

00:16:32.180 i don't know the right word that encapsulates it perfectly with uh

00:16:38.820 it's not just matters of the heart but kind of

00:16:41.620 to say feminine things doesn't capture it succinctly but they're not like you pray to them

00:16:53.140 for victory in war or for bountiful crops or for like these more outwardly facing traditionally

00:17:01.380 masculine presenting needs though men pray to these goddesses therefore comforting kind of

00:17:11.140 needs and for a listening ear when there's struggles or there's difficulties or for

00:17:20.180 women of our folk when they have to struggle with concerns and with

00:17:27.460 with those kind of issues or air where you pray for for healing and for health these are very inward

00:17:34.580 feeling-focused concerns that most of these goddesses attend to, and I think that's

00:17:43.300 important, and I think it's an aspect of Ausatru that isn't spoken about as much in the lore,

00:17:51.280 certainly not the high lore. It's alluded to in sagas when you see the intimate portraits of

00:17:57.640 people's individual lives, but in the other grand poems, so much of it is focused on very

00:18:05.160 external conflict and external struggle. These focus a lot on, you know, interpersonal or

00:18:14.340 internal struggles with heartache, with loneliness, with concern for those who are, you know,

00:18:23.060 far away and in harm's way with those kind of things so these are very special and not a great

00:18:29.380 deal of material is out there about these goddesses you know you'll notice that it's a sentence here

00:18:36.740 a sentence there and in a very brief presentation but i don't mean that in any way to diminish their

00:18:43.380 their importance um so i'm switching back between screens or whatever else so if you

00:18:53.060 need to or want to chime in or whatever people feel free to just go ahead and speak up when that

00:18:58.880 occurs to you yeah i i was gonna well i definitely you know the true law maul

00:19:07.080 being here as a foundational uh the wedge that cuts through a lot of the misinformation

00:19:14.400 i think is really important that you you know you saying that outright is important

00:19:22.060 A lot of people might not know that there is a kind of, not, there's controversy around the holy goddess Lóvan. Lóvan, of course, meaning to take leave or give leave or, in essence, permissions.

00:19:41.040 um and i think that people reading the poems if they see sovan and lovan and they oh these words

00:19:54.040 are very very similar but in their meanings they're not um the uh biggest thing is is that

00:20:01.860 they are deeply connected to language they're deeply connected to uh as you were saying these

00:20:07.300 internal matters that bind society um and we've talked about the the gods being vertical and the

00:20:17.600 goddesses being the interweaving between the verticals uh kind of like a basket um

00:20:24.140 it's the mesh that holds things together and keeps things flowing and i i think it's very

00:20:34.420 interesting when we look at the goddess Rauvin, it is contextualized specifically for the Viking

00:20:45.320 age. And in that, there have been a lot of people who have taken a run with it in order to push

00:20:54.500 their own agendas. And I think that our church has done a very good job of reestablishing,

00:21:04.120 re-centering refocusing back to the truth the the core of um this this goddess and her worship

00:21:14.140 um and the controversy that i'm talking about is that um somewhere in the 90s uh the internet pagan

00:21:21.660 community tried to utilize the idea that um loven is the goddess that gives permission for

00:21:30.260 forbidden romance or forbidden love um even though it clearly states between men and women

00:21:37.760 um they try to make her into the the goddess that gives permission for um same-sex marriage

00:21:48.260 and you can tell it's right around the same time that this was a hotbed issue um in the 90s and

00:21:55.700 it's so funny to see some of the uh videos from then uh you know staunch folks like um hillary

00:22:04.500 clinton and and um obama speaking about how marriage is between a man and a woman and then

00:22:13.220 10 years later they have completely flipped um so the the the problem with that is the blatant

00:22:22.820 disregard for the lore and in essence utilizing um the gods we we've talked about how there's

00:22:34.520 nothing wrong with being political and concerning ourselves with governance and being religious

00:22:42.180 to the gods but it's another thing when you take your politics and

00:22:49.740 put the gods kind of or utilize or make them a tool to push your message um and that is

00:23:01.040 something that we often get uh accused of but nothing is further from the truth in reality

00:23:09.420 and we we've always said that governance and the way of the folk uh structuring themselves our

00:23:18.300 ancestors did not have to deal with things we do today and the gods just like in the viking age

00:23:25.420 were looking at the folk seeing how they were going to govern themselves and utilize the tools

00:23:31.340 and the gifts that they were given um they didn't decree that uh monarchy is going to be the way

00:23:39.580 or chieftain hood or tribal kingdoms etc it was part of the evolution of its time and now we are

00:23:49.740 in this different time so be very careful and i think that's the other thing is our church

00:23:56.140 Church, moving into the realm of bringing our faith to folk to bring them home, is that you will find a lot of people try to discredit us, but they're completely insincere and they're completely, they try to obfuscate what they're doing.

00:24:18.540 And the Austro-Folk Assembly doesn't do that. We're trying to be open, honest, and with sincerity, looking at things and following the trail of deduction, creating these questions that lead us towards the truth.

00:24:35.340 So ultimately, thriving towards the truth.

00:24:39.200 And Loven is giving leave, but in a Viking Age sense, she is the goddess that allows families who have forbidden the relationship between a man and a woman,

00:24:56.840 for whatever reason and there could be numerous reasons in the viking age um

00:25:02.580 to warming or or giving passage working things out in order for their love to be uh unified

00:25:14.580 But what the core of this really is, is consolement, consolidation, and finding mediation between opposing forces.

00:25:30.760 So when we looked at Lavin, we looked at her as the binding unit between things that are either pulling apart or who are already apart.

00:25:44.440 And the end goal is that with her aid, with her ability as the gods place themselves in the well of Erd to affect things, her dominion is a very, very subtle one.

00:25:58.300 But it's one about unification, whether it's returning to or just making it where it isn't.

00:26:07.360 So generally, you'll see prayers given to Loven based on keeping marriages together or returning marriages back to the marriage state if there's things that are starting to break apart.

00:26:25.060 and um also if there is a kind of sense where uh the families are not agreeing uh with the

00:26:37.220 the marriage and a lot of folks don't realize that how much marriage is not only a binding of

00:26:43.440 oaths between the man and the woman but also between two social circles to uh familial circles

00:26:51.580 there's so much going on in a wedding about the unification of two people it's almost like a

00:26:58.760 send-off in a way because after they leave that place they will never be as they were before they

00:27:05.020 came in they're not solitary they're now unified and there's a lot of conditions that are at play

00:27:12.340 and it's a it's a delicate balance and so maintaining those is where we find the true

00:27:19.740 dominion of of lovin um it's the maintenance of love the maintenance or the struggles of

00:27:29.060 relationships and i think the dreamers and the fantasizers will say oh if it's true love you

00:27:35.620 don't have to work at it no anything that you have that is truly worth takes work that's what

00:27:43.980 makes it sacred and there will be ups and downs and the weatherings of things and and uh lovin

00:27:52.220 is that consolidation or consultation of remedy the ninth is vower she hearkens to the oaths and

00:28:04.700 compacts made between men and women wherefore such covenants are called vows she also takes

00:28:12.220 vengeance on those who perjure themselves from the truant model uh valor's name means pledge

00:28:21.820 and she's invoked often in weddings valor witnesses valor remembers valor is the patroness of wedding

00:28:31.180 vows um also straightforward but i would say one of the you know one of these goddesses that i think

00:28:42.860 second after air is probably the one that people will hear most often because she is spoken about

00:28:48.940 a lot in you know at weddings and in reference to marital vows so um

00:28:58.460 yeah and you'll notice that some of these names

00:29:03.020 sometimes there's relations sometimes there's the spelling or the sound is almost in like a

00:29:12.620 couplet there's like a pairing of names which i don't think is important in and of itself but i

00:29:19.500 do think it is a very useful mnemonic device for you to remember them as a list or as a group if

00:29:28.840 struggling to remember all of them so it's kind of a cool way to help boost your memory on it

00:29:36.440 yeah speaking of spelling um one of the the the the goddesses from here on are

00:29:46.920 confusing to a lot of people mainly because of linguistics the things that are kind of forgotten

00:29:54.440 is that um the a with the dash over the top of it makes a owl sound so it's vower and hence it's

00:30:05.320 linking to um to the like the word vow vows um however right after is v o r but there's a double

00:30:17.960 dot so that's an aw sound like in caught and because people just see var and vor they often

00:30:26.840 get the two uh mixed up so it's really really important understanding even though the little

00:30:34.880 things the nuances of of the dash above the a in old norse is a ow sound vaur and once you

00:30:41.940 get that it makes total sense why she is um connected to the word vow but uh yeah i think

00:30:52.800 uh weddings are such a uh i think well all of the goddesses too are deeply connected

00:30:59.680 to societal thresholds whether it's uh pregnancy and birth baby namings um weddings

00:31:11.760 and and so many of the living things that society's cultures do and um she's so clearly

00:31:21.540 in the point of you have two social groups joining together in oath and she holds that

00:31:32.020 now what does that look like when she's punishing those who perjure their their words one of the

00:31:39.500 big things is is all of the gods being able to implement their dominion via the well of earth

00:31:47.260 the the threshold between the heavenly realm and the material realm um the the source of all fate

00:31:55.700 and the source of all time uh as deeds are done uh the divine are interlacing themselves within

00:32:06.700 the very creation of everything that we perceive as the world around us, that generally takes

00:32:15.980 form in, like many other oaths that are not marriage-related, is the loss of

00:32:25.440 the haminya, that when you go against your wedding vows, there is a particular

00:32:33.400 set of that oath. And when you go against it, it draws away from your hominia. It can also, 0.91

00:32:41.940 I think, manifest in different ways as well. But that's the most consistent point in our lore about

00:32:51.240 the kind of cost of going against your word is that your luck, your place in fate,

00:32:58.260 The things that work out do the opposite now. They're not working out in your favor. They're working against you. You have kind of created a little nick on the record, and that's where there's a constant skip of everything going on.

00:33:16.740 so not good to break your your oaths um in marriage and our our marriage we have the three

00:33:26.120 oaths the oath of the horn the oath of the the blade or um the blade in the keys and then the

00:33:34.900 oath of the rings and uh each of these three oaths are under her dominion so

00:33:40.820 the tenth is vore she is wise and of searching spirit so that none can conceal anything from

00:33:50.860 her there's a saying that a woman becomes aware of that of which she is informed from the true

00:33:59.040 of wrong vore is the careful one she sees what others overlook details matter and small things

00:34:09.480 can have great importance lord takes notice lord is the patroness of intuition and foresight

00:34:20.440 i really like the searching spirit um the wanting to know the seeking out

00:34:28.520 um oftentimes uh if there are practitioners who are also um versed in saith and the idea of

00:34:41.920 being able to gain the premonition through intuition so uh var is often depicted as

00:34:50.680 kind of wearing or uh donning the same accoutrements that a save corner would have

00:34:57.560 a veil, things that obscure a vision, because the idea is that's culturally symbolic, that her

00:35:07.300 vision is beyond her eyes. And I think that she manifests heavily in our society with both the

00:35:18.760 mystique of the feminine um and also our connectivity to each other a lot of times

00:35:26.780 it seems uh at we are receptive men are projecting or projective and uh in that reception women are

00:35:38.000 far more in tuned with the connectivity that they have with other people um a perfect example of

00:35:46.720 this is um some a story that my wife told me she was um in ukraine and uh she had a friend

00:35:56.480 close friend who uh suddenly she received uh insight via a dream um that he was in a very

00:36:05.820 dark place that he was taking leave where he was going to end up being troubled in a terrible

00:36:18.740 sense. So she immediately called him the next day and he was in a very dark place in his life and

00:36:27.400 was considering um suicide and she talked him out of it and uh i wonder too if the the time

00:36:36.360 difference made it you know far closer than say here where it's like i you know call you the next

00:36:43.380 day but um in doing so that intuitive sense came to her to call him and and reach out to him and

00:36:52.360 And now he's married and has children and is living a good life.

00:36:58.200 He was just at the brink where he was about to be swallowed by that darkness.

00:37:03.780 And that's actually the dream that she saw was that he was being swallowed by darkness.

00:37:12.220 So I definitely believe that Var was working at that time through my wife.

00:37:22.360 The eleventh is Seen. She keeps the door in the hall and locks it before those who should not go in.

00:37:39.360 She is also set at trials as a defense against such suits as she wishes to her few.

00:37:47.360 Vince is the expression that scene is set forward when a man denies.

00:37:54.580 From the true love poem, scene's name means refusal.

00:38:00.780 She exemplifies a woman's responsibility to set boundaries. 1.00

00:38:05.940 Scene is a source of inspiration and power when women seek to influence events around them and put order to chaos. 1.00

00:38:12.720 seen as the patroness of thresholds and of personal sovereignty.

00:38:18.680 Something that's of note with these goddesses in particular,

00:38:23.340 and I think it's true with the gods in general.

00:38:31.760 There are, I mean, there's also anything in between,

00:38:37.100 But there's in general a, with the gender duality of divinity, there's an exemplification of things that you want to look to, for example, in, you know, for men in the gods.

00:39:02.060 And there's things you want to look to, for example, in the goddesses for the ladies, but there's also things that you want to look for to aid you in things outside of your skill set or outside of your inclination when you go across genders.

00:39:17.860 You know, there's it speaks here of these goddesses as, in a way, being examples of things that women should look to become or enact or take note of to initiate in their life.

00:39:37.060 But also for men to, you know, call out to when they need comfort, when they have a lack of something, when they need help with something outside of their, you know.

00:39:51.800 Men don't reach out to try to be like the goddesses.

00:39:54.640 They reach out for their aid in something that's typically a feminine thing.

00:40:00.300 Females don't reach out to the gods so that they can be the gods or be more like the gods. 0.99

00:40:06.040 They reach out for strength and that masculine presence in things in their life they need assistance with. 1.00

00:40:13.480 So there's kind of a dual utility in the relationship with these goddesses, 0.94

00:40:20.560 whereas they set very good examples for how women are able to function in society well, 1.00

00:40:27.740 for things that women specialize in in the hall culture in courtly life in noble association with 0.93

00:40:36.620 people but also provide you know an intercessor and someone for men to reach out to need help

00:40:43.020 with these kind of things or we need perspective in these kind of ways so it's it's nice that way

00:40:49.420 it's kind of a unique um an interesting take that i think is exemplified very particularly

00:40:56.860 in these short blurbs about these goddesses well and a lot of um a lot of folks that

00:41:07.100 kind of give critique of our faith perhaps from a scholarly sense um try to lend that snorty is

00:41:17.580 overstepping his bounds and in creating comparisons perhaps with the roman allegoric

00:41:26.140 goddesses and i think that the reality is they don't see any connection between say the norse

00:41:33.980 and the mediterranean um hellenics um not seeing i mean clearly their language is interconnected

00:41:45.820 um but not seeing that these concepts that manifest in each of these different cultures

00:41:51.020 can be very very um similar and so instead they just kind of account it for oh it's being uh taken

00:41:59.980 by but we find ourselves looking at cross comparison to other aryan branches of the of the

00:42:08.940 faiths that come from there and we see this is uh a commonality in every branch and they immediately

00:42:19.820 try to say no it's just uh others are kind of mirroring or stealing from um instead of seeing

00:42:25.900 that these concepts by like by linguistics um are carried through all the branches and they are

00:42:35.180 neatly placed upon the um the the altar of of the divine goddesses gods so when we see

00:42:47.820 scene and her relationship as the goddess of thresholds and specifically the marking of the

00:42:57.540 idea of a lock um during the nordic uh time frame that that this was again from 8th century to like

00:43:08.840 14th century the locks and the idea of keeping things safe um particularly the home uh was

00:43:16.620 emphasized but what would that look like before or after in relation and what that really is is

00:43:24.940 permissions the permissions of the the spirit of the family the spirit of the clan the idea of the

00:43:35.260 border the place in which some may enter but not all may enter and the discretion to do so and that

00:43:43.900 also has a very judicial sense to it. So there's the mentioning of the defense of those who try

00:43:55.800 to rebuke accusation at court. I would say that there is a lot to learn when we look at

00:44:05.340 and comparison the parallels with roman um divinity uh and that scene is most closely i

00:44:15.340 think correlated to uh um eustinia i think is justice and we know her as lady justice with the

00:44:26.860 blindfold and the sword and the scales, but, or yeah, eustidia or justidia.

00:44:37.400 And there's a second point when we see in the Roman sense, as she is depicted, she's often

00:44:44.860 depicted with prudence. I don't remember the Roman word, or it's like, it's like prudence

00:44:54.740 or prudencia um and if you look at prudencia or prudentia you see also there there she's very

00:45:05.080 similar the goddess snotra and the acting correctly and seemliness and uh going forth and

00:45:16.480 and kind of good manner within society that we are not animalistic so i find that very very

00:45:23.740 interesting um there are these super clean correlations even though completely uh different

00:45:33.660 regions different time frames but it's the language that a lot is always associated with

00:45:41.260 the goddesses in the poems and it's the very same thing that links us to other branches so to

00:45:49.340 To discredit, the only time I ever see this is when there's people who think that Lord Odin is somehow different than the god Wodan of the English.

00:46:01.260 They have this disconnect that since the language has changed, therefore they are different and they can't continue on kind of following that logic that I spoke about that our church tries to do is following the logic that brings us to the truth.

00:46:22.480 And so oftentimes in studying the goddesses, I find myself looking at the personification goddesses, particularly of ideals, like we were talking about with Gevion and her relation to Columbia.

00:46:39.260 And then so, too, we see seen in relation to just justitia and snotra to prudentia.

00:46:49.880 And we find, again, a correlative sense that is just really things being important and in the dominion of the divine amongst Aryan families.

00:47:09.900 And I think that that's really, really important.

00:47:11.780 I think we can learn a lot from that as we have so many gaps because of Christianity or because of the politics of Christianity.

00:47:21.520 So we find ourselves looking kind of overlaying other blueprints on top of ours to help fill in the gaps and create a more Pan-Aryan view of the gods. 0.76

00:47:41.780 The twelfth is Hling. 0.72

00:47:45.040 She is established as keeper over those men whom Frigg desires to preserve from any danger.

00:47:52.760 Thence comes the saying that he who escapes leans from the true love alone.

00:48:01.400 Hling is the protector. 0.82

00:48:05.560 Hling is good for women to pray to.

00:48:08.080 when loved ones are far away and there is a need to safeguard them.

00:48:12.720 Colleen is the patroness of protection, especially protection of children.

00:48:21.280 Again, some of these are very straightforward. I don't want to give anybody, you know,

00:48:27.280 less attention than these do, but I think these are...

00:48:30.080 i don't think something needs to be complex for it to be powerful and very significant i think

00:48:41.040 all of us know the stress and the worry when a loved one is away in a situation that might be

00:48:49.700 dangerous or or when it might be a concerning spot and having a goddess particularly who listens to

00:48:57.820 those concerns and to address when you're worried about the well-being of someone you care about

00:49:04.140 who's you know in a dangerous situation or you know away from home and potentially in

00:49:13.500 outside of your your immediate protection i think is a need that

00:49:17.660 we all feel very viscerally so i think that's a something very easily relatable to most if not all

00:49:24.140 of us yeah the the the association again of the late native period the men folk going out going

00:49:37.740 abroad fighting and clearly the the the women of the house or of the tribe giving prayers to the

00:49:47.340 goddesses for specific things in this case yeah the the protection of those but i try to look

00:49:54.060 at the goddesses and and the mystery of them is how does that manifest say even before and again

00:50:04.340 this is one of the oldest things of fate the the battles uh between folk has been going on since

00:50:12.660 um we can you know remember it's not even it's even it's it's very much in our nature

00:50:21.480 But the idea that protection could be placed upon someone if their fate or if the dominion or the machinations of the gods could allow it, that's another big thing.

00:50:38.720 It's not so much about as the gods move forward and they have the ability to place themselves into the web or into the flow of fate and will.

00:50:56.560 So it's not so much that they will simply do the bidding of of that prayer, but that the reality is, is they step in if it doesn't override, I think, the total machinations of the gods.

00:51:13.820 And unfortunately, for a lot of folks, they don't get the idea that sometimes bad things happen for other things to happen or good things.

00:51:24.800 It's they kind of all base it on their own personal experience.

00:51:28.920 So reaching out to the gods and asking to intercede if available, if possible, I think is one of the big things that is a difference between, say, some older Ausatru, I have given gifts so I should get gifts back, that kind of exchange idea where they look at the gods as some sort of divine vending machine.

00:51:56.460 And then there's also that the gods don't care about us at all. And I think the truth of it is, is that it's all within the scope of our understanding. And unfortunately, our scope of understanding is very small comparative to the big overview picture.

00:52:13.900 So when we pray to Hlyn, I think it foremost comes from a yearning or a desire for the protection of our loved ones.

00:52:26.800 And I think that's really, really important.

00:52:29.400 I think the closest correlative, if we're looking, say, at the Roman or Etruscan, would be Minerva.

00:52:36.860 And it's, I find it interesting that her name has reference to going all the way back into Proto-Indo-European, the word for thought or thinking of someone, or in this case, especially in that, as I'm contexting it, thinking of someone.

00:52:57.020 um and the the correlation between the two oftentimes she's read um at minerva's ready

00:53:06.400 that thought is just again wisdom or calculation but i think it's deeply about our our mental

00:53:16.600 connection that which we are attempting to bring into realization and

00:53:24.640 expanding our understanding of, I think, the overarching big picture of how the gods are

00:53:31.960 interlaying into the material. I often, again, for my children and for those who are traveling

00:53:40.360 abroad, I often pray to Lene in hopes that she can intercede to keep them safe if all is aligned.

00:53:51.920 All right.

00:54:03.040 Snatra is 13th. She is prudent and of gentle bearing. From her name, a woman or a man who 0.99

00:54:10.720 is moderate, is called Snotter. From the Truland realm, Snotra's name means clever. Often women have

00:54:23.760 need of, sorry, often women have need of creative and artful solutions. Snotra is good to look to 1.00

00:54:34.640 for help in this area. Sinatra is the patroness of tact and social propriety.

00:54:46.960 Again a lot of the

00:54:51.600 a lot of the example we see here is put in a very

00:54:56.960 so much of our lore is put in the hall culture context we talk about our folk being aryan

00:55:11.120 and you know all of the just linguistics of that but specifically with the emphasis on nobility

00:55:18.640 in these are the things that are aspirational to our people in the hall culture in the courtly

00:55:28.140 culture that develops and dignified bearing not embarrassing yourself or the people around you

00:55:38.860 or the men that you're with when you are in a social situation these things are really important

00:55:45.160 for women a lot of these roles exhibited by these goddesses in particular are very important for

00:55:54.760 women when they interact in a noble society with noble men and noble women on how to 0.69

00:56:00.200 how to conduct yourself how to best utilize your femininity for the purposes of you know

00:56:11.400 functioning and accomplishing in that kind of a culture and in that kind of situation 0.91

00:56:16.120 the idea of having one of these goddesses to look to for keeping a noble bearing and being you know

00:56:24.920 thought out and reasonable in your actions and in your not overindulging you know foolishness

00:56:32.280 and being aware that people are looking at you you're setting an example is a very important

00:56:36.200 function in the noble society of our ancestors and in society of good people today.

00:56:46.360 Yeah, I made mention of Snotra and her connection to prudence or prudentia,

00:56:54.360 and I think that prudence is, I think most people will be familiar with the word, but it's deeply

00:57:04.120 connected to the Germanic word of seemliness, acting correctly. And that hall culture that you

00:57:12.660 spoke of about why it was so important in relation to understanding hierarchy, to understanding

00:57:21.140 interplay and relationships from royalty to lordship to freemen and to servants and those

00:57:34.100 who are a war captured or what have you these balances are important and i think it ultimately

00:57:42.320 leads to structure of society not being animalistic for us having these kind of

00:57:51.140 natural inclinations to to keep things in order and also peace keeping

00:57:57.600 um people together without ill will or or having them overstep their bounds or or where they go

00:58:06.540 into um say over drinking and speaking you know foul words and in a moment that they will regret

00:58:14.180 tomorrow um clearly showing that it has a heavy effect on the internal well-being of the person

00:58:20.920 So the idea is, you know, that Snotra is the governing dominion in keeping the peace and always warning that it's never good to step into the unseemly.

00:58:37.920 unseemly. And unfortunately today, I think a lot of folks kind of have this downward spiral sense

00:58:45.080 that once they step into that, they just let go and they can't come back from their missteps.

00:58:52.360 They can't come back from their mistakes. I see it a lot in our culture that there is that

00:58:57.740 one-way direction. There's no, once you mess up, you're, you know, you can't fix it. And I think

00:59:07.540 that that's something that needs to be um looked at more because that's kind of coming from more of a

00:59:14.420 fantastical roman roman or uh romanticization of of our ancestors in reality that seemliness is

00:59:22.500 one of those things to be worked on and that can build you back to re-correcting your actions and

00:59:30.420 And stopping the loss of haminya or luck from your soul and rebuilding your ability to come back into society and give and be a contributing member to the folk as you move forward.

00:59:47.660 And I think that Snotra is very much connected to all of that in our society.

00:59:55.520 yeah i think it's good enough time to uh just make note of women's ability in social settings

01:00:06.140 and it's exemplified in the hall culture of our ancestors but

01:00:09.880 it's very important um women just by their presence are able to affect the

01:00:18.200 the temperature the climate of a room especially when you have men with very

01:00:25.880 strong personalities if you have women who are there in attendance that they

01:00:32.320 can go such a long way with a gesture with how they carry themselves with a

01:00:36.540 soft word here and there to soothe things and to facilitate pleasant

01:00:44.520 relationships between the people together and they can do the exact opposite if they're drunk and

01:00:50.760 loud and cause problems they can you know with with a word or a look or you know the wrong

01:00:58.840 behavior they can easily start or perpetuate fights and feuds and spoil things even between

01:01:05.800 friends so it's very it is a power that can be used for for good or for ill and it's um i think

01:01:13.880 you know very relevant to talking about her there's uh a last one of the goddesses we're

01:01:19.240 going to talk about um and then we will get some of your questions i know we've got a number of

01:01:25.000 questions stacking up in the uh in the chat the 14th is now uh her frig sends into diverse lands

01:01:36.600 on her errands she has that horse which runs over the sky and sea and is called hoof tosser

01:01:43.880 Once, when she was writing, certain of the Vanir sought her course in the air. Then one spoke,

01:01:51.220 What flyeth there? What fareth there? Or glideth in the air? She made answer, I fly not, though I fare.

01:02:01.040 And in the air glide on Hooftosser, him that Hemskerpher got with Gardropha.

01:02:09.900 So, from Gnaw's name, that which soars high is said to Gnaifa, Sol and Bill are reckoned

01:02:22.740 among the Ousenier, but their nature has been told before.

01:02:27.960 So, from the Trulagma, Gnaw is the divine messenger of Mother Frigg.

01:02:34.720 now is the patroness

01:02:36.820 of communication

01:02:37.840 again that's kind of

01:02:45.600 there's these short glimpses

01:02:48.220 here we have

01:02:49.160 emphasis on 0.94

01:02:51.700 her horse being able 0.70

01:02:54.280 to glide through the sky

01:02:55.820 far above

01:02:57.520 sending

01:02:59.940 divine message

01:03:01.360 throughout the lands, throughout the places

01:03:03.880 throughout the worlds and this is what we've got for uh the the maidens of fin salad

01:03:14.040 i know we've taken a long time to go over them but i think they're really important for us to

01:03:20.920 contemplate and i also think that their deities very much in deserving of worship that have

01:03:28.840 received far too little of it over the years and so paying attention to them and trying to find

01:03:36.200 ways to incorporate them in your worship and in your practice is very very important and likely

01:03:42.200 to be very well received so to get some of our questions tonight uh from caleb hello i have a

01:03:49.320 couple of questions about death in the afterlife could you talk about house true funerals and how

01:03:55.880 it differs from semitic ones swan do you have thoughts on that yeah i think um

01:04:04.280 from i because i kind of i have an idea of where you're gonna come at this so i'm gonna bring up

01:04:10.680 just some parallel side points in um one of the things that i think a lot of people get confused

01:04:17.320 is they think our ancestors only did ship burial or ship burnings um and anybody that's interested

01:04:27.000 in this subject should read the road to hell h-e-l um as she the divine spirit that houses the dead

01:04:39.400 um it's the fact that our it's our ancestors way of interring the dead has been very different

01:04:48.440 throughout it's gone through stages uh some of its burial burial collectively burial singularly

01:04:56.120 burial of um in boat shaped or literal boats uh while also burnings uh the usage of

01:05:05.880 of stone cairns or barrow mounds.

01:05:09.940 It's a very, very fascinating thing, but overarching.

01:05:13.340 It's just an understanding that it's cultural adaptation

01:05:19.000 that has defined like governance,

01:05:22.920 like many other things our ancestors have adapted

01:05:28.140 based on conditions and things that they have.

01:05:33.020 So, you know, looking at modern Ausatru funerary practices is one more layer on a multi-layered

01:05:43.340 subject when it comes to death and the utilization of burial and cremation.

01:05:53.980 And we see this kind of going back and forth, but I think it's mainly based off of

01:05:58.380 whether our folk were moving migration ages and whether or not they were able to set places

01:06:06.460 and often led to them settling down while perhaps the younger half of the tribe would continue on

01:06:15.900 kind of being stewards of the dead or keeping the memory of of those who died there and that

01:06:22.140 creating kind of or instigating building towns um i think that uh kiev and ruk in ukraine is a

01:06:31.180 perfect example of that um but

01:06:37.260 funerary practices have changed but there is clearly kind of a cultural norm even in today um and it is

01:06:45.900 coinciding very closely to western civilization um as we know about things in death uh about

01:06:57.980 the the body uh being placed somewhere respecting cemeteries uh all of these virtues that are in

01:07:06.940 western civilization i think still stand in modern ausiture today but looking back it's where you get

01:07:14.180 people who are desperately oh no our ancestors did this so that's what we should be doing

01:07:20.900 and then they'll say oh no but our ancestors were doing this like burning or burying and that's what 0.85

01:07:27.060 we should be doing and if you're not doing that you're doing it wrong and that's asinine that's

01:07:32.260 not the way this is supposed to be working it doesn't follow the train of logic to truth

01:07:37.060 it it's just people trying to implement control and the reality is our ancestors did both

01:07:45.300 and often variations in between um and there was sacrifice of goods sacrifice of material

01:07:53.760 even sacrifice of life and again it's hard for people in the modern age to understand that but

01:08:00.840 the energy of the soul being moved from the material into the spiritual beyond the veil

01:08:10.140 had great portents. And so it was a common part of life at the time. So we see that by looking

01:08:20.620 at burials, we find out a lot. Unfortunately, cremations don't leave a lot of evidence to

01:08:26.980 look at. But knowing that death is celebrated, is sacred, is seen as something of a moving beyond

01:08:39.940 our material world is still the same, despite the different ways that we might do it.

01:08:48.200 um yeah there's um so there's a lot that goes into the question i suppose depending

01:09:00.680 where you want to take it and i think spawn touched on a lot of it um

01:09:08.120 so it specifically was asked how the funeral

01:09:10.680 differs from Semitic ones. And trouble is, honestly, I don't know if we're familiar with

01:09:19.500 what Semitic funerals look like. I've never been to a Jewish funeral. I have no idea how funerals

01:09:25.280 in the Levant are. I think what we see as Semitic funerals now in the sense of Christian funerals

01:09:33.200 are how white people do funerals. And I think that it ends up becoming synonymous, 0.72

01:09:39.860 how like modern western white people conduct funeral um i think in the funeral itself

01:09:49.380 the biggest difference and this is all right so on the point i was just making

01:09:54.500 it's important to always realize that also true is that the anti-christianity it's not a reaction

01:10:01.940 to christianity or a counterpoint where if christians do a thing we have to jump and do

01:10:08.180 opposite thing no also true is its own distinct religion that doesn't have relation to any other

01:10:16.180 it's its own thing and so the way that white people interact with

01:10:23.780 the passing of a loved one and do things looks similar in a lot of different context because

01:10:31.060 our core being kind of informs a lot of those practices so in a modern house of true

01:10:38.980 funeral a lot of things are going to be very similar

01:10:42.900 but you ask how they're going to be different so the things that are um

01:10:48.660 different one of the things in a christian funeral that is very off-putting to me and always has

01:10:56.820 since i was a small child the funeral is not about the loved one who passes very often it is about

01:11:05.380 jesus and there's an opportunity to have a sermon about jesus and about death and about

01:11:14.420 heaven and redemption or whatever but it's not about the person who passed away and that greatly

01:11:21.940 offends me um i am pleased that our gods are not so paid that they have to hog all of the attention

01:11:36.420 at all times about all of the things that they would be jealous or offended that we you know

01:11:43.060 stop to notice the passing of one of our loved ones um announced true funeral is very much about

01:11:50.020 the person's past it's about them and it's about their family it's about their legacy

01:11:56.180 and telling their story and um the largest portion of oustature funerals and they're

01:12:04.900 they're all very different so we don't have a great deal of um orthopraxy of how exactly

01:12:14.420 a funeral needs to be conducted the point is that you're acknowledging the passing of someone

01:12:22.580 from this life into the life beyond the veil you are acknowledging that that is a journey

01:12:28.660 you are sending them off in a way that you are making note of their departure here in midgard

01:12:35.620 and you are making announcement of their arrival beyond the veil and you are celebrating

01:12:46.980 their remembrance and initiating the

01:12:52.420 gifting tradition that we have with our ancestors who've passed beyond the veil

01:12:59.940 with this new person who has become one of the ancestors

01:13:05.620 So it can take the shape, largely it's informed by the loved ones and what they would like and what they think that the one who's passed would like.

01:13:15.880 And so that informs a lot of the particulars or the scale of grandiosity or how a lot of that works.

01:13:22.200 What is a standout, I would say, is giving time and place for people to come up and eulogize and tell stories and celebrate the person who's passed, instead of relying on the officiant to, or in this case, the go-fi to, you know, tell you about the Aesir and tell you about Balder and tell you about whatever.

01:13:47.400 it's the opportunity to have the people who knew the person who passed come up and celebrate their

01:13:54.200 life speak of their deeds and raise toasts in their honor um that's a big part of it traditionally

01:14:03.420 a big emphasis was put on the funeral of feast and on sharing a meal with the mourners who are

01:14:11.500 gathered to honor you know to have a fitting send-off to a person they want to honor and that's

01:14:19.980 that's a big part of it um as far as the uh you know what to do with the remains

01:14:30.460 that has been it's extremely important it's been something that was very important

01:14:36.300 since the very beginning of our existence, it's one of the first things that comes into play

01:14:43.420 when understanding people and culture and stuff is ceremonial burial. It is a fundamentally human

01:14:52.540 condition. And that's taken, you know, any number of different forms and it's gone back and forth

01:14:58.860 between burial between cremation and so forth in modern house true we prefer uh cremation as that

01:15:07.340 is very associated with the cult of the icer specifically of the all father it is

01:15:16.460 i think the most exemplary type of depositing of of uh of dealing with the dead person's remains

01:15:27.340 in our in our lore there's the thought that in burning them the their the pieces of their soul

01:15:37.660 make their journey quickly and go straight up as opposed to on a slow you know rotting decomposition

01:15:44.780 process um but that's not a have to you don't have to there's no uh you don't make it to the

01:15:52.220 afterlife unless you you know if you get mummified and you don't decompose then you never get to make

01:15:57.580 it beyond the veil it there's no there's no rules like that um one of the things that i think is a

01:16:07.020 misnomer is that that viking funeral thing is like setting a boat on fire out in the water

01:16:14.300 it's cool and it's pretty and i can't say that's never happened very often that would be done on

01:16:19.180 the shore and the mound would be raised over the burnt remains of the person in the ship

01:16:26.380 but i've been

01:16:29.900 i've been to ladby in denmark where you know it's actually a really really cool site but it's of a

01:16:36.940 ship burial where the ship was intact with you know sacrificed horses and such in the ship with

01:16:44.220 the bodies you know intact was buried in a mound um it was done really neat though because they did

01:16:51.180 the excavation but they kept all of the ship and the stuff intact and under glass and then they

01:17:00.060 rebuilt a mound over top of it so you can go into a burial mound and you can walk around but it has

01:17:07.180 a solemn atmosphere it's done very respectfully i think i think it's the best compromise i've seen

01:17:14.220 between messing with ancient people's graves which bothers me but i understand that's how

01:17:20.780 we get a lot of our archaeology but still treating it as a as a place of reverence as a grave keeping

01:17:28.300 them buried and interred in the place that they wanted to be buried and interred in the way that

01:17:33.580 they wanted to it's the best compromise i've seen that it was really very impressive um but yeah so

01:17:41.020 in a modern house true funeral i think it looks as as buried as other modern funerals in the

01:17:47.660 united states but the emphasis is always on the individual of the past and on their family and

01:17:53.020 on those who knew them celebrating them and not a sermon about house of true or about

01:17:57.980 someone other than the personal past um i did want to bring up one point that i just kind of

01:18:07.520 hit me while you were talking about the difference um and i think a lot of people should know this

01:18:13.100 i say it all the time christianity is a subsect of judaism and so the burying process is uniquely

01:18:25.240 tied to a concept that Christians don't really believe in anymore. The idea, and it comes from

01:18:35.000 Saul of Tarsus, who Christians know him as Paul. He kind of stating that he's taking the Judaic 0.65

01:18:46.400 belief and then extending it to non-Jews. He talks about how the dead will rise for judgment. 0.90

01:18:57.480 And this kind of shows that, especially in the Levant and amongst the Judeans, that their idea 0.70

01:19:04.620 is that once you die, you're placed in the ground and you are in stasis waiting for judgment. And

01:19:11.380 then this wasn't really applied to anyone outside of their tribe. And then Saul of Tarsus goes

01:19:19.320 further to say that even though there are non-Jews that don't know the covenant with Yahweh, 0.66

01:19:25.200 they too can gain access or citizenship at the throne of Yahweh. And he even speaks about

01:19:34.180 the benevolent Jew, and he means this in the sense that he's not saying that he's not a Jew,

01:19:42.100 is that the ancient practice from the Pharisees, there will be one admitted into, or a few admitted

01:19:50.120 into heaven. And then he even speaks about the pagans who will be admitted. But a lot of people

01:19:57.020 lose sight that the burial is so connected to Christianity predominantly through its origins,

01:20:05.600 which is that the dead stay there. And that when the rabbi Yeshua comes down from the sky with a

01:20:18.580 word, they will rise to stand for judgment. And a lot of people really gloss over this.

01:20:24.080 And I find it super, super interesting that, you know, you follow that trail back and it goes all the way back to ancient Judaic practices and why for us cremation and burial have totally different meanings and why over time European Christians just did away with a lot of the Judaic concepts of burial and the waitment for judgment and so on and so forth.

01:20:52.560 But it was very real for them in the early parts of Christianity because it was one step outside of the door of Judaism.

01:21:03.880 All right. Next question. 0.59

01:21:07.020 Forgive the many questions, but I have a new one that maybe hasn't been asked.

01:21:11.560 Family and ancestors are heavily emphasized.

01:21:14.940 But what about those who've had painful experiences with family in this life?

01:21:20.180 Would that cause stumbling blocks?

01:21:22.560 it's fine you want to take a swing at that first

01:21:27.920 um yeah i think one when we're talking about the gods looking into the well of earth

01:21:37.300 and they're looking into observing interacting implementing will and dominion in the in the

01:21:45.500 fate that plays out. This is a question of perception. The biggest problem, I think, is that

01:21:55.040 people don't consider the perception of the ancestors, that the ancestors are also too

01:22:01.800 perceiving that which is happening out in a fate they are no longer a part of, but in a different

01:22:09.580 part of all things playing out. They're not in the material. They're not in the fate and will

01:22:17.800 battle between chaos and law and all of these things, but they still have the perception

01:22:23.820 of their descendancy. And what often is, is that I believe that the perception of the ancestors is

01:22:31.900 very different than what we have here. Just as much as the gods clearly have a greater and more

01:22:38.000 expansive and fuller overhead view of and perception of. So the ancestors do I think see

01:22:49.100 the remnants of their action. The echoes of their deeds in this world are in essence laid out. We

01:23:01.500 want to be able to go to our ancestors and be honored by them for our deeds and i look at that

01:23:09.420 as again that's their perceptions of what is happening uh or what has happened and in doing so

01:23:17.580 we find that i think our our ancestors have a view that's unbound by just their own perception

01:23:27.900 in their living life and in that sense they end up facing the judgment of the ancestors

01:23:35.500 or at least i would say the correction of where coming back into um the throng of your folk and

01:23:45.820 reflecting on your deeds this applies to many different things and i think that the dead

01:23:51.820 often learn of their misconceptions in life and even do speak to us, even in contrary to what

01:24:02.240 they may have believed in life. I see this a lot with the interactions that some folks have had

01:24:12.340 with the ancestors where someone was devoutly Christian and then they give all signs and

01:24:18.820 blessings towards the folk that are not doing that because they now understand from their position

01:24:24.920 what's going on, even though staunchly in life, they may have felt differently.

01:24:29.900 So with that being said, we have to understand that the folk that do things here, their deeds

01:24:37.980 are done and they have been done. I'm not excusing any deeds, but what I am saying is that their

01:24:43.900 perception of their deeds and the effect that it had on everyone around them, I think is known.

01:24:51.200 And it requires on our part, perhaps, an understanding that we should give honor where

01:25:02.320 honor is due. But there's almost a sense of condemnation in the silence for perhaps an

01:25:12.780 ancestor that did great wrong specifically to you or to the family or created some sense of

01:25:19.620 dishonor, perhaps didn't cross over to the ancestors and is now in Naustrand. There is

01:25:26.340 more, I think, a level of silence that creates instead of maliciousness towards your ancestors,

01:25:33.500 but just knowing that their perceptions are and have changed from when they were in their living

01:25:39.440 life honor those who have done great deeds honor those who have done good deeds um and be very

01:25:47.060 very careful about people who want to paint your ancestors as being bad evil malicious or what have

01:25:54.840 you and again follow the line towards the truth by looking at the totality of the situation

01:26:01.120 and your perspective their perspective and the perspective of the gods take those into consideration

01:26:09.440 yeah so i mean you know the question talks about how ancestor veneration is such an important part

01:26:18.680 of what we do and it is but i think that when people especially when people have had bad

01:26:26.660 experiences with their ancestors they i should say with their immediate family they have a very

01:26:35.060 you know they have a knee jerk what if what if i don't like my ancestors

01:26:38.980 that's a big statement you have hundreds upon hundreds of ancestors

01:26:48.180 you may have known some who passed that were that did wrong by you and don't need to celebrate that

01:26:58.760 But, so, I mean, is that a stumbling block?

01:27:03.660 Sure, but you need to get over it and get past it.

01:27:06.620 And by saying that, I don't mean at all that you need to necessarily forgive or forget any of those actions.

01:27:12.860 But you don't know all of your ancestors.

01:27:18.000 You have countless generations of ancestors that go back.

01:27:23.260 And to honor them is a big part of what we do.

01:27:27.180 and a big part of what we all should do.

01:27:31.880 It is, you know, I think the challenge is to find ancestors of yours

01:27:36.840 that are worth celebrating and build relationship and celebrate those.

01:27:44.340 I can't imagine a situation where, you know, any of us,

01:27:48.680 all of our ancestors were bad or even all of the ones within recent generations.

01:27:53.140 it may take a minute to find out about ones that you don't know about or you know to do that and

01:28:01.120 that can be made harder through adoption or through situations where you may not have that

01:28:05.980 ready access to knowledge about your ancestors but because your mother or your father or your

01:28:13.040 grandparents are

01:28:15.280 it's fine whatever you're doing looks strange um sorry anyways so yeah so whatever's um yeah

01:28:26.940 don't let that hold you back if if one or both or you know both parents and all four of your

01:28:34.900 grandparents were bad people i'd be surprised if that hundred percent continues a generation

01:28:41.520 previous or generation previous to that there's just too many you have good ancestors out there

01:28:48.260 finding them is very important and it roots you to who you are and i think what swan says a lot

01:28:55.280 of truth in that on the other side our ancestors know more than they did on this side i have no

01:29:03.580 doubt that they are aware in a higher degree of the good that they've done in their time in midgard

01:29:12.380 and the harm that they've caused in their time in midgard and undoubtedly they are transformed

01:29:20.540 to a degree with that knowledge and you know i would hope transformed in a positive way

01:29:28.380 because of that knowledge but yeah don't let that hold you up so we've interspersed some of caleb's

01:29:35.660 funeral and death related questions we're kind of swapping those in and out so we're back to

01:29:39.660 caleb now for those so terrible that they go to uh nostrum how can their soul be broken down and

01:29:47.260 used positively the only thing that comes to mind is if they are serving as an example for what not

01:29:53.260 to do and the consequences of choosing that faith so for those that don't know the seldom you know

01:30:01.980 the seemingly seldom utilized third the bad option for the afterlife

01:30:10.060 is if you were is if the ancestors and the gods find your soul so detestable that it is of

01:30:17.580 negative value existence is worse by you existing than going to maustrum and being 0.92

01:30:25.900 you know ripped asunder by a nidhogger or dissolved by dripping venom from serpents 0.99

01:30:35.660 this is the idea of your soul being broken up into its component parts so that those parts go back 0.99

01:30:43.820 getting you know can be better used in a different way and the question you know how can a bad soul

01:30:50.940 be used positively because it's like recycling at that point that level of deconstruction

01:30:59.980 it's because energy doesn't end nothing just ceases to exist if something happens it becomes

01:31:07.340 smoke or exhaust or you know it transmutes into something else in this sense if you're broken down

01:31:14.820 into you know the atoms of the parts of the things they can be you know reutilized for other

01:31:22.320 material and melted down and that metal that was a car is now a you know now a digi more beef stew

01:31:30.700 can and uh you know whatever else and that's the level of breaking down and recycling i'm talking

01:31:37.500 about soul components because we know about energy it doesn't just disappear it has to

01:31:43.660 disperse in some in some other way but the the disillusion of of the soul disillusion of your

01:31:50.220 personness you know that's the thing where there's not an afterlife there's a destruction

01:31:57.260 yeah the the um idea of the ek in our soul complex or the ego or the da sign there's been many many

01:32:09.340 um different words for it in our culture but it's it's different from eastern concepts of

01:32:16.560 trying to deny the ego i think that and the eastern religions that are often touted by

01:32:22.380 people who want to create communalism in such a degree they kind of go from that spiritual road

01:32:28.780 but for us losing your your your essence the identity is

01:32:36.580 a terrible and it is a warning like you said it is a kind most definitely a warning against

01:32:44.900 if for you to be broken apart to no longer exist in the totality of who you are

01:32:51.920 both in your mind and your soul and your body, all of these things are, you know, not good.

01:33:02.140 And so being kind of dissipated into the substrata of creation is daunting.

01:33:10.260 Your deeds, yeah, the foulness of your deeds leading to that is definitely, I think, a message.

01:33:18.840 so frank has a question here um according to our lore what happens to miscarried babies in

01:33:27.640 the afterlife my wife recently had a miscarriage thank you um first frank um our deep condolences

01:33:36.200 to you and your wife and your family um going through that that's that's terrible and uh

01:33:42.840 very very sad sorry that that happened to you guys it is it is tempting to try

01:33:57.520 to come up with something that is gonna make you feel better or going to be

01:34:05.320 positively reassuring in some way I think that's really really tempting but

01:34:09.900 I don't ever want to do that falsely, and so I'm not going to do that in this case.

01:34:15.200 One of the things that is the law doesn't really address miscarriage in that way.

01:34:23.480 um one of the bits of our lore and pieces of our lore is that the child becomes a full

01:34:34.680 a full person after a certain amount of time alive in in midgard to make it to their you know

01:34:44.740 shortly after they're born in you know modern tradition nine days but often people elect to

01:34:51.560 it later than that for ceremonial purposes but there's a period after the child's born where

01:34:57.240 it gets imbued with its full um personhood i guess with all of the components of its soul

01:35:04.040 with its uh um inheritance from the ancestors and all of that's kind of solidified at the

01:35:16.200 the al-savatam, and the baby name.

01:35:21.020 Before a child's born and really becomes a full person,

01:35:25.580 I think that any of us that have seen an ultrasound

01:35:28.180 or done that know that that child is certainly something,

01:35:32.120 certainly something alive,

01:35:33.460 and there's elements of a person there, absolutely.

01:35:36.440 I think any of us have experienced that and know that.

01:35:40.780 But it's not a full or a whole, complete person

01:35:44.540 until the end of that process so i and our lore doesn't really address exactly what happens

01:35:52.540 um but i think like like uh likely the the elements that were coming to play to make

01:36:01.040 that baby into a full person can be you know reutilized in a situation that does come to

01:36:10.340 fruition and that does come to uh the fullness of term and the fullness of making it to the

01:36:16.900 completion of personhood um but yeah it's a that is a tragedy to everybody involved and i'm very

01:36:26.140 sad that you guys went through that swan do you have anything to add on that well when we talk

01:36:32.080 about the soul and we speak about the essence of Yggdrasil, the dew dripping into the well

01:36:42.500 of earth, a lot of that connectivity is a soul essence being placed in to the well of

01:36:51.780 fate and will and all the things that we spoke about and that the gods are at the top of

01:36:56.100 that that ordering point um and oftentimes with that there's also the essence of the ancestors

01:37:03.940 uh being passed up soul pieces um parts that are given to the new formed soul for benefit

01:37:15.080 um and that these culminations that come from the root and ultimately are uh coming out of

01:37:23.900 out of Yggdrasil and into the well dripping there um there is deed that must be performed in order

01:37:33.960 for the child to be fully interlaced into the will and the fate of the folk around and

01:37:44.440 And when that doesn't happen, it seems the general point is that the attributes given by the ancestors, there's that returning and that there is not the kind of full completion or starting of as I was here ago that was talking about.

01:38:06.680 But that like the part of this, all of these components of the soul are laid out and that since there is not the full completion, there is not some destination like in, say, with, you know, certain forms of Christianity, say that, you know, certain souls, that it was some sort of a punishment for you to have something like this happen.

01:38:34.080 Or that the souls, I know like during the Victorian age, a lot of the times they would talk about, and in Slavic areas, that children that had passed away in this way were somehow lost or kind of in purgatory or cursed or things like that.

01:38:53.680 Instead, ours is that it's a component collection, and if that component collection does not meet the zenith or apex or the threshold of full integration, then those components then break apart and the process can start over at a different time in a different sense.

01:39:20.160 So it's not like some long damnation. The process is interrupted. And I think that really that can be best understood by our ancestors and the way that they lived in a pastoral tribal sense.

01:39:39.000 anybody who owns animals knows that sometimes things don't work out there are there are

01:39:47.800 components being put together and it's it has to stand the test of time it has to pass through the

01:39:54.280 the full threshold in order to maintain and sometimes that doesn't happen one of the most

01:40:01.400 interesting things is that there is a remarkable lack of archaeological burials of children of of

01:40:09.720 little children or of um um babies or infants and things um now the variations of certain societal

01:40:22.200 norms of our ancestors has been sometimes very harsh in comparison to our views of today our

01:40:29.880 our ancestors have helped us build a very secure society. And that was not always the case. But

01:40:36.000 what we do end up finding is that a lot of people try to take that in the negative sense.

01:40:42.600 But the late Nordic period, there was a huge population boom. So that time, there was,

01:40:51.860 I think a lot of birth rates but the tradition of the nine days is clearly a vestige of child

01:41:00.660 mortality and that the necessity of creating the completion of the threshold and once that happened

01:41:09.700 that was that the child was fully integrated all the components were there or log was set everyone

01:41:17.060 was involved the ancestors the gods all of the folk in the living in the middle world everything

01:41:24.100 is culminated together at that point if it's not if it if the soul pieces do not complete that

01:41:33.300 fullness then they are again kind of in the ebb and flow of much energy in this and components in

01:41:43.300 our in our world and they they dissipate and i think that that's uh

01:41:51.380 kind of explained in much of the undertones of our of our belief about the passing of haminya

01:41:59.780 the passing of might from ancestors the uh allocation of bloodline and how the gods and

01:42:10.260 And the Norns interweave souls into fate.

01:42:14.680 All of this is a process.

01:42:17.340 Multiple strings coming in together to form the thread.

01:42:20.260 And if some of the thread doesn't fully make it there, then it is, again, brought back to the whole of where the thread comes from.

01:42:31.920 That's, I don't know, that's kind of an odd allegoric sense.

01:42:35.800 And I'm not saying this as I was here ago, they said, I'm not saying this in a sense to give you consolation.

01:42:44.540 I give you consolation as a man, as a member of your community and your folk and as a father.

01:42:51.280 And that's the true point of it.

01:42:54.620 I'm looking at it more as when we speak about life coming into the world through our faith,

01:43:02.560 we look at all of these points and that's where it's kind of pointing to the processes.

01:43:13.920 So also we've got a lot of death questions, a lot of death-related questions tonight,

01:43:20.440 but three of them from the same guys so i think that's i don't think something's in the air i

01:43:26.300 just think we've sometimes we hit on some themes um how for also from caleb how can

01:43:34.000 australia be sure that they will receive an australia funeral if their family is without

01:43:38.680 a christian so i think be sure is a difficult thing the best way to ensure it is a couple of

01:43:49.160 different things. So I'm going to plug do your own will.com. Do your own will.com. It's as simple

01:44:03.460 as it sounds. It's free. It is legally valid and binding in all 50 states and likely other places

01:44:13.480 as well, get a will done. So the optimal method here is get a will done. Make sure your loved

01:44:25.920 ones know what you want and send an original signed and if necessary notarized copy of

01:44:36.660 your will to our law speaker, Alan Tarnage. That way, if we get word of your passing,

01:44:46.340 we have an official document that says what you want so that we can advocate for you getting

01:44:55.080 what you want. First, a lot of people don't make a will. It's not pleasant. It's not something we

01:45:06.040 want to think about and you think you're going to live forever and it would be awesome if we

01:45:11.960 all did but that's not how it usually works um but in my time as also here you go through the

01:45:19.880 astro folk assembly we've seen members who are elderly and are dying of diseases and natural 1.00

01:45:30.840 causes that we know are coming that don't do their will and don't get what they want

01:45:38.320 done with their remains after they pass.

01:45:42.020 We get young people who have a tragic death by accident that didn't see it coming.

01:45:51.700 That don't do their will.

01:45:53.080 We've seen everyone in between.

01:45:56.920 doyourownwill.com is free and is easy and you can do it in 10 minutes and it's something that's so

01:46:03.080 much better than nothing. If you want to do a better one later or change it half a dozen times

01:46:08.560 as your life changes, do that, but do your own will today for free and send it to Alan.

01:46:15.220 So we've got something in our hand to help, to help advocate for you. Because the other thing is,

01:46:22.140 And you hate to think this about your loved ones and your family, but sometimes their religious beliefs make them think they are doing the right thing by violating your will and what you want done with your remains.

01:46:42.440 Sometimes it's not out of maliciousness or out of greed of somehow not distributing your assets the way that you want.

01:46:52.140 And sometimes it's them trying to do what they think is best for you.

01:47:00.200 We had a young man a number of years ago who passed without a will.

01:47:05.340 And he is now in a Jewish cemetery after having a Jewish service with a Jewish memorial

01:47:13.220 because his parents decided to convert to Judaism

01:47:16.780 and they did what they thought was spiritually appropriate

01:47:24.260 with his remains.

01:47:26.620 And there was nothing to say to the contrary.

01:47:29.760 And that's really unfortunate.

01:47:30.800 I'm very sad that that's what happened

01:47:33.480 with his final resting place.

01:47:36.380 So do you will.

01:47:39.860 It's really important.

01:47:40.660 the other thing is and this is just kind of a random thing the more people that know about it

01:47:45.560 the better if no one if you have you could have the best will ever and if you keep it in some

01:47:52.100 kind of safe place around your house and nobody knows it exists then you know it might as well

01:47:58.680 not exist people can never find it maybe they find it and you've they've already done all the

01:48:05.500 things and you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube um yeah get get a will make sure that

01:48:15.820 your loved ones and someone else has it it'd be really good if you made sure alan has it

01:48:22.060 again it's not trying to get anything out of you it's wanting to advocate for you if we can

01:48:28.840 if you're a member so we have a record of what you want and uh yeah it's super important and

01:48:36.520 it's said to have watched so many of our people pass without wills and sometimes it works out

01:48:42.360 great if their family is you know if they've had those conversations and their loved ones are all

01:48:47.160 in and also also true are and you know it can work out that way but it can really not especially when

01:48:53.800 there's religious division and just to remind and spell it out even clearer this has nothing to do

01:49:03.000 with the assets part of a will this is only about the funeral part of the will in the

01:49:08.120 and the afterlife part of the will and if it is of your wishes also just plug plug

01:49:15.960 all of the Hoffs and Sigurheim have free burial options for you, or free internment options of

01:49:25.960 ashes. Absolutely. We can inter the ashes of members at any of our Hoffs or at Sigurheim, 0.86

01:49:36.120 which will eventually be the home of Tears Hoff. And it does have something to do with the 0.90

01:49:43.080 distribution of your assets that's absolutely part of your will but the part that we want to

01:49:47.480 make sure yeah but i mean we're not asking for any of that well yeah and i think that people

01:49:52.920 you know why are they asking or whenever no you can do whatever you want with it it's not trying

01:49:57.320 to get a piece it's just saying it's really important to us that you get what you want in

01:50:04.760 your you know in the way that we remember you in the way that we mark your passing

01:50:10.360 And I think that's very important.

01:50:13.120 It's always been something really important to me.

01:50:15.080 And I think it's something that's always been very important to our ancestors.

01:50:19.660 And I've watched many people not get that.

01:50:22.300 And so it's one of the reasons that is very important to me.

01:50:24.740 And it's kind of a drum that I beat often on here.

01:50:26.960 And it is very seldom needed.

01:50:28.800 in case they're not and i might wager that they might not be gentlemen who are on this program

01:50:43.360 with me should also get their wills done and sent to alan so he has a copy that would be cool

01:50:48.720 um also everybody you can see you can tell by spawn space and uh everybody in the chat room

01:50:56.880 do it it's a good thing seriously it's free in it i've done it it's important um

01:51:07.760 oh this question is just for you spawn question for spawn are you familiar with theurgy

01:51:16.160 yes okay it was practiced by hellenists thoughts on it and is that a legitimate expression of

01:51:28.040 arian spirituality uh depends on uh i guess time and ultimately execution i mean the ergy is really

01:51:39.780 a classification by the Hellenics of a processes that can be observed in every group of Aryan

01:51:48.780 spirituality. Ritual, the commitment to ritual, the purposing of how you enter a space, how you

01:51:59.760 leave a space, how you move within the space. All of that is part of that. And it's very clearly

01:52:08.240 laid out throughout many traditions. But what it's ultimately doing is the synthesization

01:52:17.320 between the material perception, the middle world and the other side unifying or kind of

01:52:27.020 building that bridge between the two. And the only problem I have with that classification

01:52:34.780 is that later on in the medieval ages, the practice was still carried on,

01:52:44.440 but they had created this sense of the church and Yahweh or Jehovah or just God.

01:52:54.140 That's off limits, only interceding perhaps through the malak is the Hebrew word or the angelos.

01:53:04.780 but that you could do other things and talk to other beings who were lesser than. 0.80

01:53:13.120 So in a way, I think that's the time where Christianity was kind of making Yahweh or Jehovah

01:53:19.960 into more of the Neoplatonic, the one, or, you know, just like the monism of interactions.

01:53:31.500 they also you know that i think too is the same time where the the soul transcends the earth and

01:53:38.480 goes into the heavenly realm as opposed to just waiting in stasis until judgment day um from the

01:53:46.120 judaic sense that it would be descending down into the the earthly realm there was only a

01:53:52.780 biphetic relationship there wasn't an upper middle and a lower but that there's the upper realm the

01:54:00.480 middle realm. And if you're judged and seen as bad, you're thrown into the fiery incinerator

01:54:07.020 that's in heaven. Um, a lot of, you know, Aryan, um, concepts of the upper middle and lower world 1.00

01:54:15.140 are brought into Christianity. And when you find out, you kind of dissect those out, you see the 0.81

01:54:20.560 strangeness of, of that belief, the foreignness of it. But, um, the idea of being able to do

01:54:30.380 certain things to simply bring about divine beings or semi-divine beings for usage in a contractual

01:54:43.560 sense or in a sense where you have some sort of command. I think that's uniquely something that

01:54:49.860 was developed and hyper-focused in medieval the medieval ages from looking at the stuff that they

01:55:01.100 had all the all the knowledge that they had collected they're looking at some of the greek

01:55:04.920 fraternal orders they're looking at the egyptian priesthoods that had secret cabals that were built

01:55:12.740 around magic traditions and so you get that mixed with neoplatonism and the evolving christianity

01:55:23.860 at the time and you get this idea that okay you can't do that with god but you could do

01:55:30.500 with angels and you could do it or with malaks or whatever they choose to call them whether

01:55:36.100 you're using a hebrew word or a um or european word but you could do that with them you could 0.87

01:55:42.660 do that with nefarious and chaotic spirits and you know you have to follow kind of diagram

01:55:48.780 and uh intention i don't necessarily have a huge kind of inclination towards that and its value

01:55:58.600 But I do see the roots and why people focus on the medieval age time definition, but the reality is it's rooted in something that is Pan-Aryan and deeply connected.

01:56:13.880 And that is these ideas of being able to break through the mundane through proper practice, proper speech, and proper indication of action in order to blend between the divine and the material.

01:56:32.400 And this goes all the way back to our ancient Aryan ancestors as in source, you know, they, based off of what perhaps little we know about them, we would think that simply the divine is the sky and the sun and the moon and that.

01:56:52.560 But there's clearly the action of the gift cycle of giving and all of the kind of unwritten evidence of passing over thresholds, bridges that go over waterways, making sure to only move sun-wise within areas.

01:57:13.320 These kind of deeply ingrained traditions that we know create the sacred and helps us surpass the profane, that is absolutely, I think, across the board.

01:57:31.900 It's just not so formalized as the medieval sense of being able to draw some geometric or a seal, talismanic seal from supposedly from King Solomon, and that you're able to create thresholds and bring forth divine beings that are or semi-divine beings that are not God to do your bidding. 0.80

01:57:59.780 That, I think, is more or less a product of the fact that the divine became so untouchable and became kind of the first stepping stone that Christianity had done towards making their God very unattainable and unrelatable.

01:58:20.200 Kind of like George Washington even said, the clockmaker, the watchmaker, the divine providence, that interaction was separated so humanity, the folk, they looked for other ways to feel integrated with a system that previous to Christianity's injection, they were already kind of a part of.

01:58:48.620 it just wasn't so much uh written down laid out in a framework so um yes i think it existed long

01:58:58.960 before and so the medieval magic practices i kind of look at them less uh with as much lofty weight

01:59:09.920 of theurgy as say all the religious practices of europeans and or arians in every group um

01:59:18.100 they all start with theurgy, making that connection to the divine through word and

01:59:25.860 participation and kind of traditions. And they change a little bit, mainly based off of culture

01:59:33.560 and the way that the entirety of that group viewed the world around them. But outside of it,

01:59:39.500 they're all a lot of them are very very similar so next question and I

01:59:48.560 even when I don't have favorable answers I appreciate the questions I appreciate the

01:59:58.560 tone that they're asking I appreciate the things that people wonder sometimes my answer is not one

02:00:06.460 that is helpful but it will always be one that's honest are there any outstrew groups that are less

02:00:17.980 folkish but also traditionalists that the afa has amiable uh recommendations with

02:00:25.420 or might recommend to follow it where it was not eligible for afa membership

02:00:30.060 no um and the last part so here's the thing if it were just because somebody is

02:00:43.340 confused about their ideas and want something that is

02:00:48.540 not folkish because they are i don't know misguided no i wouldn't recommend that but

02:00:58.380 last part is the part that i take really seriously for a follower who is not eligible for afa

02:01:04.620 membership there are a lot of people who are mixed race um and these are the two two things so

02:01:13.420 if the person who is asking the question or who hears this is

02:01:20.540 not white and but wants to be also true

02:01:24.060 don't do that instead seek out your ancestral religion that is of your people don't buy into

02:01:36.700 the the false belief that it has to be christianity and islam your people your ancestors had gods

02:01:44.700 return to those gods and be proud of who you are 1.00

02:01:48.720 the uncomfortable x factor is there's a lot of mixed race people 0.95

02:01:53.960 and if you're mixed race and you don't fit in here and you don't fit in there 1.00

02:01:59.140 i truly don't have a good path for you or great advice for you other than to

02:02:04.740 you know live your life as best you can and find you know find truth and meaning where you can

02:02:11.220 and your situation is very unfortunate um but no we don't have any

02:02:17.880 you can't be less folkish but also be traditionalist in the practice of house true it doesn't

02:02:26.520 work that way they go hand in hand there's a lot of people and again this you know whoever

02:02:32.480 asked the initial question please don't think this is all aimed at you it's not it's to everybody

02:02:37.200 else listening to the answer i've run into a lot of people over my time in house to true that you

02:02:44.100 Now, they really like certain aspects of the AFA's house of true practice, but then other

02:02:52.960 things they're uncomfortable with.

02:02:55.360 Largely, they're uncomfortable with things that have a social stigma in the world that

02:03:01.320 we live in today, like our folkishness and our racially exclusive requirements or our

02:03:08.620 stance on homosexuality or things like that.

02:03:11.740 and they like a bunch of things but that's you know that's a bridge too far and so they want to

02:03:18.000 have like a like a light version of it you know some some kind of decaffeinated afa or something

02:03:26.700 and it doesn't those things go hand in hand they're all part and inseparable for a whole that

02:03:33.900 is you know practicing you know in in line with the divine order of the iser or not

02:03:42.220 and the pieces work together to form a cohesive whole and you can't just kind of take a chunk

02:03:47.580 out of that and still be traditional it doesn't work that way may i um yeah go ahead because what

02:03:54.940 you just said is yeah that that might be something that a lot of people don't understand traditionalism

02:04:00.060 is about creating the tight-knit integrated core and you can't dissect that that's what

02:04:06.140 alzheimer is talking about what he means you can't be one and the other it's kind of and i

02:04:12.300 think that the nature of the question is actually stating a condition so there's a point where a lot

02:04:18.140 of people perhaps are introduced to things and they find that they're broadly scoped and when

02:04:25.820 they get more into the focus of it where it truly comes from they find themselves being kind of

02:04:32.620 distanced so a perfect example is um native american or indigenous or indian spiritualism

02:04:42.060 you find very broad things but as you get closer to the core and you're looking say specifically at

02:04:50.780 the Lakota and suddenly you realize, Oh, I'm not Lakota. Um, you know, the, the idea of asking,

02:05:00.340 like, is there a belief system that's like what you guys are doing to preserve yourselves, 0.86

02:05:06.820 but less Lakota. And that when you phrase it this way, the reason why the question's coming

02:05:16.120 about it all is because again there is there there's a condition where you want to go closer

02:05:23.220 to the core but in order for that to be the core to be the tradition it must be far more integrated

02:05:32.280 and complete and you can't dissect that that creates a huge conundrum so then a lot of people

02:05:39.120 just get angry because i i see it all the time and they um because they have to stay in the

02:05:49.120 more ethereal outlier areas and they find themselves shoulder to shoulder with some

02:05:55.100 people who aren't even there for real religious reasons or they're just posturing or they're

02:06:01.640 you know, ethnically masticating themselves or what have you. And I don't think that it's

02:06:08.860 right if somebody has true cognition of their thoughts to get mad. It's just an understanding

02:06:17.940 of where one is at. So I was here with you saying at that point, you have to search for the correct

02:06:25.780 path it's not about what you don't want to be or what you cannot be it is about what you can be

02:06:32.800 and that's built on your sense of vision and where you must go but it's not placed either

02:06:38.920 on the shoulders of the peripheral people or the traditional core to tell you where to go

02:06:45.760 so the next one's kind of interesting i know the afa isn't against vaccines but i was thinking

02:07:00.560 that if our body is one part of our soul and vaccines may harm the body then couldn't we

02:07:05.740 have religious reasons for not getting them um and this is two-part questions the first part

02:07:12.180 no because that's not how it works and i get it i absolutely get it i i get it a million percent i

02:07:19.560 get but in order to have and to uphold and substantiate and fight in a court situation

02:07:26.220 to have religious exemption for stuff you need to have an actual supportable doctrine

02:07:32.100 against that thing and it's not situational um because you know vaccines possibly being

02:07:41.120 harmful to the body that's not good enough and it also doesn't hold up so you guys are against

02:07:47.160 things that harm the body no we're not sports uh military service uh putting yourself in harm's way

02:07:55.560 for heroic stuff any of the things that we have pose a potential harm to the body

02:08:00.140 um so we couldn't really stand up on that and the trouble with the vaccines is

02:08:06.480 and it's not

02:08:09.280 defining it as a religious doctrine

02:08:16.960 that you can get an exemption for

02:08:18.860 is a very very specific thing

02:08:20.720 and it's not a general thing

02:08:22.140 like as a general

02:08:23.600 we would like to be able to exempt you

02:08:26.880 from bad stuff

02:08:28.040 and only have you do good stuff

02:08:31.360 but that's way too broad

02:08:33.520 saying well we're against bad vaccines but we're okay with good vaccines is also too broad and

02:08:40.040 doesn't stand up so we have to either be you know have some kind of actual doctrine to where

02:08:47.320 we believe that they are bad for a religious purpose and we don't we don't think that taking

02:08:53.220 medicine is bad we don't think that um you know any of those things we don't have a doctrine to

02:09:01.360 where it's bad. We just, many of us know that certain vaccines are not good and make the

02:09:09.900 choice not to take them. And there's a lot of different ways here in the United States

02:09:13.920 that you can have personal objections to things that you can resist those things. And if that's

02:09:22.680 what your conscience tells you to do on those things, you should absolutely do that as long

02:09:26.640 they're you know legal or if they're you know what whatever you have to do if that's your concern for

02:09:33.120 yourself or your children's health you've got to be what you've got to make those decisions

02:09:38.000 um but no that's not a sufficient reason and the other thing is we want to be really careful

02:09:42.640 on issuing religious exemption on stuff because we want it to be rock solid we want an afa

02:09:49.840 religious exemption to mean something and if we use it incorrectly or in certain circumstances

02:09:57.760 frivolously we lose that standing to be able to issue those kind of things and we don't want to

02:10:03.920 do that so i mean i i get it i get it when it comes to i i get it i get it as a father when

02:10:12.720 it comes to childhood vaccination things i get it as a person who you know didn't get and doesn't

02:10:18.480 want the covid vaccine i i get it in all those ways so i'm on the team i'm just saying the afa

02:10:24.560 can't extend the relationship exemption in that way in the second part of this

02:10:29.360 also couldn't we rely on prayer and magic to protect us if we believe it

02:10:35.920 no because the world doesn't work that way and you say rely on

02:10:39.120 theoretically could you implement could you get by just invoking your magical efficacy

02:10:49.460 and or the prayers to the gods to sustain you medically sure you could you can't rely on that

02:10:58.560 first i mean you know your magical efficacy more than i do but if you're you know a powerful

02:11:06.480 enough rune magus that you can heal all of your your ills then that's more powerful than any other

02:11:14.480 magician that i've ever come in contact with or or no um the gods can certainly help you but to rely

02:11:23.680 on you know that they're going to cure all the ills of anyone who's faithful to them or anyone

02:11:29.280 asked their help that would be cool and i think we would all like that which we all know very well

02:11:35.440 it doesn't work out if it did all the outsider would have you know long healthy lives and that's

02:11:43.760 never been the case with our ancestors it's just not quite how that works it is good and beneficial

02:11:51.200 to invoke you know to ask the gods to help you and to ask that they look after you medically

02:11:59.920 on the topic of the show that we're on to ask that lady air extend her her grace to you to help you

02:12:08.420 that's fantastic but to rely on that and also not try to take care of yourself in any number

02:12:19.040 of medical ways be they western medicine or anything else it's kind of neglectful of your

02:12:25.660 options our people have always been innovative in using the science and technology available to them

02:12:31.660 to further their cause to further their health to further their success and you know the afa would

02:12:38.300 never say hey guys stop you know stop going to doctor stop getting medicine just just pray and

02:12:45.340 cast spells on it and i'm not being silly i'm someone who prays and who believes in casting

02:12:50.700 spells but i don't think that's a smart thing to rely on for your health um i think it's behooves

02:13:01.900 us to take advantage of all the all the things we have access to to with our discernment to pick

02:13:08.700 those things that are going to be you know most likely to give us the best outcome and

02:13:14.940 And I don't think you have to exclude the one to include the other.

02:13:22.560 One thing that is, does tend to be true is the gods helping those that help themselves of, you know,

02:13:30.260 people who are willing to put forth the effort and helping give you a nudge as opposed to do everything for you.

02:13:36.440 So, I mean, I think that, I don't know, it's tempting to give a different answer to that.

02:13:42.560 But just to be honest, no, I don't think that it's wise for us to just not do medicine and ask the gods to help if you believe in it.

02:13:52.400 And I say that.

02:13:54.840 There have been circumstances where I believe the gods absolutely help heal things, help cure things that are miraculous, that absolutely happens.

02:14:04.780 But it's rare that that happens.

02:14:07.060 It's not the norm that that happens.

02:14:09.060 And I think we all know that to be the case.

02:14:12.560 it's it's it's all it's adjacent to the topic but now i'm sitting here thinking about walking

02:14:18.400 down the street and getting mugged and whether i should cast the stupefy spell or just throw the

02:14:23.420 first punch you know that's and i think that's an important thing i don't think

02:14:29.640 what i think and i do and again the gods can help who they would like to but i do think

02:14:36.500 there is a tendency to be less helpful to foolish people that do foolish things. I think there's

02:14:44.660 something inherently irreverent to avoid common sense things to help yourself and to throw up

02:14:52.580 your hands and like, wow, the gods will protect me. I think that's rather presumptuous. And

02:14:59.700 I think that's more likely to cause a poor outcome than it is to cause a good outcome.

02:15:06.500 do you have any anything to add on that spawn yeah i think very much similar to the question

02:15:14.100 from before this is a a sovereignty uh issue where um and and i get it as well the idea that

02:15:24.140 your sovereignty and your ability to dictate things that go into your body or into your

02:15:29.320 children's body or things uh involved say with work i mean we're all post 2020 now and we saw

02:15:35.540 the uh just a glimpse of how bad it could be um so we have this sovereignty issue and someone is

02:15:44.780 is like i don't want to do this so i you know perhaps it's a good lean on western civilization

02:15:51.620 and how religious belief does hold a good sway in our society so that natural ideas to reach out

02:16:01.500 desperation and say that somehow this is going to be religiously exempt. But what I was here

02:16:06.360 ago that you're saying is that we forfeit our, um, our valid or our credential as, as a people

02:16:17.440 when we utilize it as a tool or suddenly our religion fits the ideal of, uh, defending

02:16:26.480 an issue on sovereignty in this one specific way. And the moment we do that, we lose a lot

02:16:33.500 of that credibility. It would be, again, the thing, the reason why vaccines are such a touchy

02:16:40.480 subject is because it's the transference in a medium that we are only just now really kind of

02:16:49.020 getting into, um, understanding how it can be weaponized or it can be made malicious

02:16:55.320 medicine, the idea of getting better. And I often think about this when it comes to

02:17:04.020 venom, uh, you get bitten by a snake and the idea of taking the anti-venom, which is based off the

02:17:12.620 venom all laid out there would tell you i'm not going to put the put bad stuff in me to fight the

02:17:20.200 bad stuff that's in me that that doesn't but we obviously we know now it's it's it's different

02:17:26.400 than that so when when medication is utilized for profit when medication is utilized to do harm

02:17:34.880 to cause things for reasons that have all been speculated by many people, whether it's population

02:17:44.480 or whether it's controlling demographics or whatever it might be. When it travels through

02:17:52.420 the pathway of medicine, it's particularly nefarious. But if we only use it for one situation

02:18:02.940 and not all that's an integrity violation and then if we use it for all then we end up

02:18:10.500 handicapping our or disabling our people and you can't do that it's not right to do that i don't

02:18:20.460 think it's right for uh the church of the ice here to do that i think that's why i'm i i you know and

02:18:27.760 And I never really conceptualized a lot of this until I came into the AstroTruc Folk Assembly.

02:18:33.620 So the conversations that me and Elsie Ergo they've had in relation to this subject have been very enlightening to me.

02:18:41.020 And I think that it is, again, about the integrity of our church and that understanding that medicine is good.

02:18:51.560 It is deed.

02:18:52.980 I don't think that the goddess heir just simply heals for the sake of healing, though she can.

02:19:01.100 I think a bigger point of the gods being the gods of order is governance and dominion.

02:19:06.740 We speak about it often, and that involves teaching people how to do things for themselves and how to proceed doing things for themselves in order to be better.

02:19:19.560 I think we should look at medicine morally. That's, I think, perhaps a difference than someone who's just simply looking for things for longevity. Oh, yeah, we're going to put our brains in computers and freeze our bodies in giant ice coffins.

02:19:35.880 i would have moral questions i would want to think about this and discuss them and not move

02:19:43.700 so blazantly forward into things that are on like near you know it was man-made horrors beyond our

02:19:50.320 comprehension um but at the same time if there is something that helps aids uh fixes things

02:20:00.580 I don't think there's any wrongdoing and we see it culturally. Our ancestors did it quite often

02:20:08.560 with antibiotics that were created from ammonias and herbs and all of those things.

02:20:17.440 We see the gods giving us inclination to learn and pursue and then seeing us do it on our own

02:20:26.980 and then rewarding us for that. So if we start to pick and choose and just simply drop or push

02:20:33.720 away or reject and we do it more or less in like a political sense, then we start losing some of

02:20:42.360 that integrity. It's a sovereignty issue and your sovereignty is important. It is sacred

02:20:50.140 and you must make those decisions to ensure that your sovereignty is being maintained.

02:20:56.980 I had many a friend who quit their jobs during all of the 2020 stuff.

02:21:05.100 And I've had some friends who stayed and got the vaccine in order to remain employed.

02:21:14.140 And I think that's a terrible situation to be in.

02:21:17.160 And I think it's unfair and I totally get it.

02:21:20.440 But it's not a spiritual point.

02:21:23.680 It's a sovereignty point.

02:21:25.480 and we have to follow the logic to the truth i know i've been just like the sixth time i've said

02:21:33.660 it so but i mean everything has spiritual implications yes you could get a religious

02:21:40.160 exemption for all of the different things every time i thought your tax dollars are misspent

02:21:46.040 on not something beneficial for you or whatever i write a religious exemption for you know you

02:21:54.920 having to pay taxes this month because your taxes go to things that and without being silly things

02:22:01.480 that are obviously for okay for example catholic church can't issue you a religious exemption because

02:22:08.840 for paying taxes because some of your taxes go to planned parenthood or subsidized abortions

02:22:15.320 like you can't pick and choose those things

02:22:18.520 like if you had something religiously and again i don't think this would fly but for that to be a

02:22:25.320 thing you would have to be against the concept of taxation not how those taxes are used if we were

02:22:32.200 against medical treatment because that violated one of our principles then okay you can do that

02:22:38.440 but you couldn't pick and choose and say well i'm okay with you know you yeah it's it's it's very

02:22:45.400 nuanced and i talked about that with law speaker alan turnage but when it was going on because i

02:22:51.480 wanted you know i want to be able to grant our people that especially when i think that

02:22:59.160 that particular situation was was wrong for those vaccines to be pushed on people

02:23:04.440 those particular vaccines to be pushed in the way that they were pushed

02:23:08.040 i want to facilitate the best things for our folk and but issuing a blanket anti-vaccine

02:23:16.980 from the afa isn't something we can do on those grounds next question is my question is how open

02:23:25.160 are you all people who are you all to people who are christian but still wish to find community

02:23:31.200 with white people and will abide by the ass true standards it is very hard to find pro-white

02:23:38.080 christian groups but i'm sick to death of being so isolated i feel very lost uh i also was raised 0.96

02:23:47.600 wicked and have the utmost respect for your beliefs so that's a i went i didn't know where

02:23:58.000 that was going okay so how we are very open to being your friend um we are not open for you being 0.83

02:24:08.240 a member of the house true folk assembly as long as the christian part is in play and it's kind of

02:24:16.640 similar to a question that i answered a few questions ago um those things all go together

02:24:24.320 the faith community

02:24:27.140 and the sense of family and unity

02:24:29.320 that we have

02:24:30.360 comes from our being united

02:24:33.140 in our worship 0.69

02:24:34.800 and trough to the Iser

02:24:36.320 you can't have that

02:24:38.940 without having that worship 1.00

02:24:40.620 and that trough to the Iser 0.99

02:24:42.320 they're inseparable

02:24:44.220 they're

02:24:46.220 inseparably linked to one another

02:24:49.160 and part of that harmonious

02:24:51.360 whole

02:24:51.740 i absolutely agree with you that there's not pro-white christian groups because christianity

02:25:00.140 is inherently not pro-white um a semitic religion with a semitic messiah about semitic people

02:25:12.700 and then expanded to being universally about all people can't be pro-white it just doesn't

02:25:21.020 work that way and people have tried over the years and i again i don't say that to be insulting i

02:25:26.220 say to give an honest answer to the question i think the problem i would urge you to reconsider

02:25:36.140 what it is about christianity that you're drawn towards that appeals to you like why you feel

02:25:43.500 that you're christian or what about the christianity is valuable to you and do some soul searching on

02:25:49.900 whether that's misplaced and would be better served with being loyal to your gods the gods

02:25:56.540 of your people and your ancestors that's a hard thing to do many of our members are former

02:26:05.820 christians i was though certainly a difficult thing for me to come to that realization

02:26:11.340 um but yeah i would i would urge that and i get that sense of loneliness and i get feeling like

02:26:20.700 you don't have a place within your faith community because they're not pro-white

02:26:25.720 i think that is also intrinsic in that faith community and so breaking those chains that

02:26:35.500 that keep you lashed to that faith

02:26:38.760 and coming on to Alcetra.

02:26:40.880 I very strongly urge you to do that.

02:26:48.680 The last question,

02:26:50.320 and then Svon, if you could read the next section,

02:26:55.060 because I'm done with my little sincere sentence there.

02:26:58.080 If we get back into our normal flow,

02:27:00.400 you can read the section about the Valkyries.

02:27:03.020 but first greetings all what exactly is the soul sickness i'm assuming it's more than just

02:27:11.020 doing things that we don't approve of but often that's how it sounds to me thank you for all

02:27:16.540 what you do so i think that's a really good question because it's a term that we use on

02:27:23.260 here a lot that i use on here a lot and i don't think it's been defined or if it's been defined

02:27:29.580 it hasn't been defined often and it's yes when you encounter it is when our people let us down

02:27:39.500 and do things that we don't approve of we you know say that that's soul sickness

02:27:49.180 and it's the soul sickness isn't that people act bad that is a symptom of the soul sickness

02:27:57.340 Um, often the soul sickness is what causes our people to act in ways that are below our

02:28:06.340 standards and disappointing to us.

02:28:08.460 So our concept of health owes a great deal to the idea of being whole or being unwhole.

02:28:19.860 So this has been talked about by other, um, it's a concept.

02:28:27.340 that i believe shares a lot with uh like native american spirituality and the movement in the

02:28:37.820 70s to kind of re regain that and re integrate with that the idea that you know if you take a

02:28:46.620 people and they're separate from their culture and their gods it creates a fundamental break

02:28:53.420 in that wholeness a core part of them is extracted and missing and the incongruence

02:29:03.260 with their life creates a disconnect and it creates a sickness and i think we've seen this 0.80

02:29:09.180 in a lot of different ways and it's been a slow march of it with white people and christianity

02:29:15.580 at first Christianity tried to alter our fundamental character as little as 0.79

02:29:23.860 possible it was very often erasing names of deities or names of things and

02:29:32.080 replacing it with names of Saints and names from the Bible but trying to keep 0.57

02:29:37.820 all of the Aryan culture intact but it's a it's a it's a toxin from the outside 1.00

02:29:47.480 that eats away our core values and is fundamentally added you know diametrically 1.00

02:29:53.120 opposed to our value system in a lot of ways over the centuries as more as the

02:30:00.560 Christianity became less and less white culture and more and more biblical Christianity it has 0.96

02:30:09.940 eroded the fundamental elements of our soul that made us strong and it separated us you know the 0.98

02:30:17.500 further you are separated to your source of strength your divinity your connection to your

02:30:24.120 gods over time that metastasizes and the sickness grows and it displays itself in the lack of virtue

02:30:35.720 that our people have in the lack of self-confidence in the myriad of psychological problems that our

02:30:44.380 young people face because they are separated from a pride in themselves and a connection with their

02:30:50.980 gods and so the hopelessness and the mental illness is a dream and when that rot because

02:31:01.780 we've been disconnected from the wellspring that keeps us healthy and renews us and rejuvenates us

02:31:08.820 with vigor and might and with inspiration from the ancestors of the gods when that's severed or when

02:31:15.540 that's forcibly been made to lay dormant we're cut off from the things that strengthen us and 1.00

02:31:24.180 our people have been psychologically abused by this foreign faith for a thousand to eighteen 0.90

02:31:34.580 hundred years depending on which white people we're talking about it uh it does damage and 0.97

02:31:41.380 that collective damage and that trauma generationally gets passed down to our children and

02:31:46.980 their children and it accelerates and the longer we're separate from our true selves from our

02:31:55.300 integrated soul from our uh whole from our wholeness the more that hole that's left behind

02:32:06.740 sorry i'm using whole uh in both senses but that that gap that's there in our soul

02:32:13.860 stopping us from being complete

02:32:18.580 that's magnified each generation that goes without that we're further and further from it

02:32:25.140 and that's kind of what we mean when we talk about soulness is a soul sickness

02:32:29.380 is the disconnect between our holistic existence as a complete person and this fragment of a person

02:32:40.740 that we are because we're separated from our relationship with our gods for so long

02:32:45.700 and that's that's what the soul sickness means as you know that's my clumsy attempt to define it as

02:32:52.340 mess. I think when we say the soul sickness, that is a poetic way of saying the medical term

02:33:04.560 prognosis. But let's look at the word prognosis. Prognosis means prognosis for knowing, knowing

02:33:14.040 where something is going. We look at things happening now. So it's partially like what you

02:33:22.020 said, some of it is that when we look at things that it's not about approval, it's the foreknowing

02:33:31.440 where this will lead. If your child does something or if your friend does something that you know is

02:33:38.660 going to lead them down a dark path, you are making a prognosis of the illness that will

02:33:43.960 continue by their actions. And then we have the prognosis of the past and we see the results

02:33:50.380 thereof and that too is another point that i was here with these bringing up about when we saw the 0.72

02:33:57.020 separation of our people from their faith and it started out small and the arian warrior became the

02:34:04.780 christian knight but instead of fighting for the holy land and blood of europe they go to jerusalem

02:34:11.180 or something like that and and so now we start to see this going further and further along

02:34:17.660 and so the entirety of everything that's kind of happening now is the result of prognosis

02:34:26.140 of events that happened in the past so how do you determine it you determine it by

02:34:32.060 by moral gravity by guidance by wisdom from uh the the priesthood the church um the leadership

02:34:40.620 the uh understanding of and the the uh relationship to return back to the gods

02:34:48.620 is built on looking out and saying well we see where this started look at where it has gotten us

02:34:55.900 oh and now there's these new things that are just as bad that will lead us down a similar or 0.83

02:35:03.020 parallel path like a perfect example of this is speaking about like oh when the germanic folk

02:35:10.060 got separated from their gods by a foreign religion has led us to say this present day

02:35:16.460 but then we can look at the prognosis of say materialism or um technology at such an advanced

02:35:25.400 rate right now without any moral or or having the religious um gravity to look at things and

02:35:33.780 consider them from a whole and traditional Germanic Aryan perspective or Pan-Aryan perspective,

02:35:41.480 even though it's technically different. It's not the Christianity subject, it's modernity.

02:35:47.460 But modernity, you can look at it and make a prognosis saying, well, if this follows its

02:35:55.240 pathway, the disease will have these effects, and we should try to stop that, stem that,

02:36:03.780 and or teach people how to avert away from that illness and that's what um i think the

02:36:11.140 kind of material to poetic definition of of the soul sicknesses all right well

02:36:24.180 all right it's fun could you read the section uh 36 on the valkyria

02:36:33.780 of the valkyrie or the valkyries there are also those whose office it is to serve in vowel hall

02:36:44.100 to bear drink and mind the table service and the ale flagons thus they are named in grimness

02:36:52.020 maul, hrist and mist, I would have bare the horn to me, skekjolv and skagolv, hildur and

02:37:05.700 thruður, hlokk and hevrjáttur, gjöll and geirha-hard, excuse me, randgríður and ráðgríður

02:37:20.980 and reynleif, these bear the einherjar ale. These are called valkyries, valkyrir, them

02:37:33.380 Odin sends to every battle.

02:37:35.640 They determine men's feyness and award victory. 1.00

02:37:39.900 Gudr and Rota and the youngest Norn, 0.99

02:37:43.480 she is called Skuld, 0.99

02:37:46.220 ride ever to take the slain and decide the fates.

02:37:50.360 Jard, the mother of Thor,

02:37:52.340 and Rindr, Vauly's mother,

02:37:54.880 are reckoned among the Ausenir.

02:37:57.220 so there is

02:38:02.440 an understanding i think that and i'm using this in parallel because i think a lot of people

02:38:10.440 kind of get this when it's placed this way imagine like the molochs in christianity

02:38:19.320 slash Judaism, the angels, as you know them in the Greek and Roman word, the messengers,

02:38:27.620 the servants of the divine, the beings that are carrying function, mostly through movement 0.99

02:38:40.580 and transference of energy between the material and the heavenly, bisecting all other cyclical

02:38:48.540 points, which is, again, another great example of the dominion of Lord Odin. But unlike the

02:38:56.260 mallocs in, say, Judaic Christianity, where they were created to give worship and to reverence 0.99

02:39:09.440 of of this one singular godhead they are in essence the the dominion manifest of the will 0.82

02:39:20.820 of a great and powerful divine with specific purpose and then they are culturally inundated

02:39:28.460 with points that are very very important for the time that the story is being told

02:39:35.520 the service of the ale horns we clearly see this connection between the hall culture and the

02:39:43.040 feminine and the gaining of the of the mead and the sacredness into the horn there is so much

02:39:50.400 going on there outside of literalism that i like to lay that out for folks but there's also again

02:39:58.560 their names and their connections to fate the connections to um the deciding of victory the

02:40:07.940 deciding of death who comes and who remains these moments the crucible of war and battle which of

02:40:15.800 course is one of the huge dominions of lord odin and the valkyrie vowel meaning chosen

02:40:21.680 Kirir meaning carrier, carrier of the chosen ones of his will, and they are his will manifest

02:40:28.960 in movement. You know, I don't think that I can say anything about the gods not being able to do

02:40:37.880 anything they want to do. But what I can see is an observation that to a certain point,

02:40:44.180 there is movement that the gods do within our world, within Orla, within the well of Orla,

02:40:50.420 that is often placed upon manifests of their will, creations of themselves into manifest

02:41:04.280 and willful movement. And I find that very, very interesting. And that's one of the

02:41:12.200 There are disconnects between, say, Judaic, Semitic demigods or what have you, and the way that we look at the divine shards of will and creation from a god being utilized to enter and return repeatedly in the well, if you will.

02:41:39.480 So their names are all, of course, associated deeply with battle, from spear shaker to strength.

02:41:48.780 And I think also, too, there's some interesting points like Hildur battle is her name.

02:41:55.740 Thrudur is also the name that is given for the child of Thor, the offspring of his.

02:42:04.900 Her name means strength.

02:42:06.460 and there's no clarification in the poetics as as this is placed matter of fact they take a cut

02:42:16.860 from the grimness mouth and place it in here again because they're wanting the lexicon of

02:42:24.200 poetry to be read into but this that poem section is lord odin specifically telling

02:42:30.580 King Gerod, that my Valkyrie bring me, they bear the horn to me. So he is saying I am the leader

02:42:42.740 of them. They are the servants that tend to my will. They are the ones that help me, aid me,

02:42:54.080 and manifest within all levels of the creations that we are in.

02:43:01.720 So he's really telling King Gerard that you just messed with Lord Odin.

02:43:06.500 But on top of that, we have to look at what does that mean

02:43:10.160 when we have the beings described presiding over the fates of men. 0.93

02:43:16.880 Again, all fate, all Nornir, all witchery.

02:43:23.620 and i mean witchery in the sense of like the traditional where the word comes from to twist 0.92

02:43:28.020 thread to twist fate is always feminine and so we clearly see that's the the valkyrie are that

02:43:38.580 that manifest of of his will into fate and they are in the feminine sense placed out and remember

02:43:48.500 a long time ago someone was just postulating and this isn't by any means some sort of a kind of

02:43:55.300 like hard canon but the idea that when lord othen placed his eye um the right eye being the masculine

02:44:04.580 versus perhaps the or the uh the feminine sorry the feminine or the masculine that the right eye

02:44:10.660 I was sacrificed in order to release the feminine into Orla, into the well, via the Valkyries.

02:44:21.400 I'm not saying that that's something I believe in, but it's something that I think definitely many strong heads in the priesthood have talked about, or at least inclined in discussions about. 0.94

02:44:36.860 And I find that very interesting. The reason why the Valkyrie are the feminine manifestation of the dominion and will of Lord Odin within the well of Erd is clearly our connection to fate and divinity of fate resting in the Nornir, in the skull,

02:45:01.880 the 0.98

02:45:02.740 the ones who

02:45:06.240 kind of implement

02:45:07.320 those designs of

02:45:09.940 cutting fate and

02:45:12.000 rendering them to move into

02:45:14.020 different areas immediately

02:45:15.960 something else that I think is

02:45:21.500 important

02:45:23.740 is the

02:45:25.320 there is a the position of honor that it is to be able to

02:45:39.400 serve ale serve me in the hall of the all father is special i think that um one thing that's really

02:45:50.440 important we talked about soul sickness about wholeness one thing that has been a part of the

02:45:57.960 soul sickness is the separation of our women from the dignity of womanhood

02:46:08.680 a problem with the modern world and a problem that has been 0.92

02:46:13.160 exacerbated by the like Plagan, LARPer, fake Ausiturer out there is this like shield maiden 1.00

02:46:30.200 women all being these like barbaric warrior whatever. One of the things that is lost is 0.67

02:46:40.200 the dignity and the femininity that comes with one's place in society in the hall in the noble 1.00

02:46:47.160 culture of our people the idea of these you know dignified uh demigoddesses

02:46:57.480 serving you know the champions that that feast in the hall of the all-fathers pouring you know

02:47:05.160 filling their horns providing that it's really important and it's it's a mark of distinction

02:47:11.960 and dignity for the lady of the hall or for her her female attendants to be able to do these things

02:47:19.960 the idea of of being the horn bearer and it's something we try to extend to our our ladies

02:47:26.520 during whenever we find an occasion to really in our practice at the hoffs very markedly so

02:47:32.520 ensemble but the idea of the women carrying the horn and presenting the horn that there is a

02:47:40.680 dignity and an honor in having that role of service that i think is lost in the i don't know

02:47:49.000 chest-thumping shield maiden crowd that wants to make things about something tremendous is lost 0.99

02:47:58.520 when women try to seek value in trying to see how masculine they can be if they feel the only way 1.00

02:48:06.780 that they have value is by trying to do masculine things they're always going to be coming from a 0.99

02:48:16.040 place of weakness and struggling to catch up you know the the weakest man is more masculine than 0.93

02:48:24.620 the strongest woman because at the end of the day he's a man that's just a losing proposition

02:48:31.820 but taking away the dignity of our women achieving greatness through femininity

02:48:39.100 that is a deep loss that our people have felt and it's nice that we live in a in a time where

02:48:45.260 the idea of traditional womanhood and traditional masculinity are becoming cool again in a section

02:48:54.860 in a segment of society that's nice to see that back happening i think the ultimate evolution of

02:49:01.260 that is you know the 2015 is like the 10 year 2015 to 2025 gender confusion crisis that the

02:49:12.940 west went through where all of a sudden we don't know the difference between men and women anymore

02:49:18.140 that's a strange twist of biology that just defines any it defies any logic or any understanding but

02:49:24.940 i think it comes from a continued erosion of trying to pretend that things that are clearly

02:49:32.380 polar different aspects of things are one and the same so a key point of traditional culture

02:49:40.300 something very relevant to our ancestors something extremely relevant to the mental health and the

02:49:45.260 well-being of our young men and women is understanding the dignity and masculine men

02:49:52.300 and feminine ladies and that's always been a core of um things we celebrate in the astropholk assembly

02:50:03.260 so this is a good place for us to stop tonight there's

02:50:08.780 again plenty more for us to cover but the things that are in this particular piece of our

02:50:15.340 lore are very important and we're going to take our time on them but also we had some

02:50:20.300 great questions tonight that i think were were really valuable to to go through and kind of

02:50:26.460 piece out so thank you to everybody who uh who was here to ask the questions

02:50:30.540 I think you're absolutely right. This is a great place to stop and to give context for ongoing into this is after the sections of the gods, the sections become interesting as they are kind of almost the Valkyrie, Frey and Gerder.

02:50:55.360 And then back to the Einherjar, these sections are kind of can be dissected in chunks of their own.

02:51:04.400 And there are concepts coming up that I think no longer have complete consistency as they were written to be kind of these chunks.

02:51:13.560 Whereas before, as we were going through, there was consistency between every prose before it.

02:51:21.140 So for folks getting for the next, you know, we're it'll be digestible pieces.

02:51:27.260 And then we move into another section of another spiritual point of of the strata of the religion.

02:51:35.280 But it's not that they're always interconnected.

02:51:37.940 So, but there's really great things coming about concepts about the middle world and natural law and how the material to the divine versus the material to the chthonic.

02:51:53.860 A lot, there's a lot of cool stuff coming up.

02:51:57.060 I'm kind of pitching for our next go.

02:52:00.800 No, that's great.

02:52:01.980 i am looking forward to our next show which will be the first wednesday of next month this month

02:52:10.780 we have um five wednesdays so joining us next week the law speaker makes his triumphant return

02:52:19.740 to the victory never sleeps program and he will have an ask alan anything episode so make sure

02:52:26.540 you have your questions for alan about alan's stuff or about any stuff for that matter let's

02:52:32.780 put them on the spot um so be here for that and then yeah so in the meantime go to your local hof

02:52:43.180 or the localist hof to you um and make that happen we'd love to celebrate norna not with you

02:52:51.180 at one of our Hoffs. It is worth the drive if you can make it. I will be traveling roughly eight

02:52:59.340 hours up to Frazehoff to go and celebrate there with our wonderful folk at Frazehoff.

02:53:08.860 Yeah, so I hope wherever you find yourself, even if you can't make it to one of our Hoffs, which

02:53:13.980 should, but if you can't, I understand that too. Hope you have a wonderful Norman Knot wherever

02:53:19.100 you're at and we'll talk to you guys again next wednesday if not before swan thank you for joining

02:53:26.380 us and sharing your expertise thank you for having me um until until next week he'll be icer he'll

02:53:36.540 be folk he'll be afa remember victory never sleeps and apologies y'all for the mystery

02:53:43.820 guest, thumbnail

02:53:46.240 to end the show. Didn't have

02:53:48.180 time for the lost speaker AMA, but

02:53:49.980 that thumbnail will be coming. Have a good one, y'all.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - April 16, 2026

4⧸15⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 197 - Prose Edda： Gylfaginning, Part 7

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