Asatru Folk Assembly - 4⧸16⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 145 - Völsunga Saga, Part III

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00:03:00.000 hello and welcome guys caught me on my last bite of chips i apologize

00:03:21.120 really on time that better sir it's like the waiter when the waiter comes up and asks you

00:03:31.920 is your food good welcome back um we are we are making progress those of you who have been with

00:03:43.360 us on the first two episodes of the bulsunga saga we'll notice that we're not numerically chipping

00:03:52.800 away at a vast number of chapters but the story is extremely meaty and it's such a foundational

00:04:02.960 um story in our lore it's uh seminal to a number of other stories and bits of lore and to a number

00:04:16.080 of lays in the eddas um so there's a lot of points of connectivity there's a lot happening in a very

00:04:24.320 short amount of chapters we'll be starting with chapter 10 tonight for those of you who are

00:04:30.160 following along uh as always we are reading the translation at velospow.org and you're welcome

00:04:38.320 to follow along there but you're welcome to follow along with any uh any translation that

00:04:43.920 you have access to and there may be you know interesting points of variance there um

00:04:54.800 i would also like to bring your attention to a couple of things

00:05:00.720 first if you can make it we are celebrating the 30th anniversary of the astro folk assembly

00:05:06.880 at midsummer at odenshof midsummer at odenshof is typically our biggest event of the year

00:05:16.880 um it's going to be an amazing time it's at our first hop that we have had

00:05:22.560 almost 10 years we got odin's hof officially in october of

00:05:31.020 2015 we actually scouted the location of the hof in the building before we purchased it

00:05:40.920 directly on the heels of midsummer 2015 uh the mcnallans along with myself mandy uh gothi

00:05:49.960 thorgren and some other friends of ours had gone out and looked at the location so

00:05:58.280 it's an amazing place we would love to see you guys out here if you guys can do it

00:06:03.560 that's in brownsville california and it's on dates that are way too small for me to see to

00:06:09.720 tell you about but that nick has on the deal june 27th through the 29th june 27th through the 29th

00:06:16.760 heard it here folks if you can make it out to that please do we'd love to see you there it's

00:06:21.320 going to be amazing also other things of note the following month in the month of july we have the

00:06:28.520 third annual sigger bloat at siggerheim on july 25th through the 27th come on out and celebrate

00:06:36.360 with us that is in jackson county tennessee it is a very special property that we have really big 0.95

00:06:44.600 plans on in the coming years those of you who might not know this is going to become the capital

00:06:50.840 grounds of the austral folk assembly it's going to be the home of tiershof which will be our sixth

00:06:57.880 half it will also house the we'll figure out cool name for it but basically the great hall

00:07:08.600 that is the capital of the AFA, that we will host things from, do things from, and

00:07:16.280 direct things from in the future. We are, many of the members of leadership are moving to Jackson

00:07:24.220 County to be there and be part of this. Our producer, Nick, moved out there three years ago

00:07:31.760 now two and a half years ago now something like that in order to establish a beachhead for us

00:07:38.800 and we're very appreciative of that my family we are looking as soon as we can love to see

00:07:46.560 us out there by the end of the year but i make no promises but we are uh definitely engaged in

00:07:53.200 making that happen and i would love to show each and everyone here what a special place that we

00:07:58.080 found there and share fellowship with you guys. So that's Jackson County, Tennessee,

00:08:04.320 July 25th through the 27th. We would love to see you there.

00:08:09.920 Also top of the show things. Thank you to each and every one of you. Thank you to all of our

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00:10:17.640 um a lore study of the volsunga saga starting on chapter 10 but any and all questions are welcome

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00:11:13.740 that said

00:11:16.180 fun are you ready i'm so thankful that you got the whole intro coming down because

00:11:27.060 i don't i you caught me with a mouthful of a quest despite that the gives me a chance and

00:11:36.060 and uh yeah my family was kind of coming in behind me so i had to mute and make everything go

00:11:42.320 um quiet and apparently i'm still getting uh notifications and monk just texted me silly

00:11:49.660 and it's pinging off um uh no so um yeah i i am ready i didn't know if you wanted to field

00:12:00.300 the the two questions that came in before we start or do you want to wait let's just go let's just

00:12:06.400 get into the material this evening and we will get to those um in due course okay i'm just making

00:12:14.780 sure i'm turning everything off because apparently uh volume doesn't mean just volume anymore

00:12:23.340 um notification volumes etc

00:12:29.580 all right okay

00:12:36.780 let's see here now uh for everyone following along just a bit of a recap and i'm going to do it very

00:12:43.340 briefly is that um we have the rise of king volsung and his children and then his daughter

00:12:54.380 is married off um to a a friend and then lord odin places a sword into the tree in the center

00:13:04.460 of the hall and everyone tries to pull it out and uh lo and behold it is it is pulled out um

00:13:14.460 by the volsungs and then or excuse me uh is that sigmund's wedding who is the son of volsum 0.71

00:13:24.860 but they uh the sword is pulled out the balsongs have the sword and that's when um

00:13:36.140 there there's problems that start the the uh conniving the backstabbing um and it ends up

00:13:43.900 being that uh sigmund's sister um her husband kills her father and all of her brothers save

00:13:52.460 for one and in doing so she hides the sword they go on the lamb um and a son is born sin filthy

00:14:06.140 is born out of incest through sorcery and they end up running through the wilderness as werewolves

00:14:15.340 sigmund and and his son sin filthy who he doesn't know is his son they get captured they get buried

00:14:21.180 alive they escape um so there's a there is so much meat to this story um but ultimately it leads

00:14:33.340 around to sigmund um traveling with sinfield the s's right hand man not knowing it's his son and

00:14:42.960 they are now settling down from their wolf wolf gang wolf ganging uh anybody that doesn't know

00:14:54.160 that like wolf gang means to walk like a wolf um that's why we still call the bridge between a ship

00:15:00.720 and a port a gang plank um so they're they're walk they're wolf walking and then they decide

00:15:07.040 to get rid of them and burn them in the fire and become kings or chieftains if you will and that's 0.73

00:15:17.200 ultimately into getting revenge which cost the life of their sister but she was happy 0.98

00:15:25.680 that um she managed to redeem her family as far as um one of them still remained and her husband

00:15:34.080 didn't get to kill all of them and then not only that but she ended up having a child that was of

00:15:41.040 two volsums um in purity kids don't try this at home yes yeah absolutely and um to be honest

00:15:53.760 i think that this really does is reminiscent of arthurian legends um a good friend of mine was

00:16:04.080 talking to me earlier today and he was we were just back and forth about the story because he

00:16:09.880 had it been so long since he had read it and yes he was like oh yes so the sword in the tree versus

00:16:15.840 the sword in the stone whereas there's also uh morgan lefay who is the half sister of arthur

00:16:24.900 uses sorcery to

00:16:27.100 to hide herself 1.00

00:16:29.240 and then she has a 0.98

00:16:31.360 child

00:16:32.920 Mordred

00:16:33.700 who will eventually

00:16:37.020 defeat her or 0.82

00:16:38.480 and cut him 1.00

00:16:40.480 in battle 0.57

00:16:41.680 and so yeah

00:16:44.580 those links there kind of lend

00:16:47.000 to a theory that

00:16:48.880 we see that

00:16:49.720 shape changing

00:16:52.280 in order to

00:16:55.400 mate with and produce child we see that with uh pin dragon in the beginning of the story as well

00:17:00.680 so that's a recurring theme in the arthurian cycle yeah there's this this this um

00:17:10.120 kind of sense of absolute like it's evil it's considered very very taboo but if it's not done

00:17:21.320 in essence sin filthy in this story is so much volsung that he supersedes the family

00:17:31.480 he survives he becomes um the the linchpin to making sure at least from his mother's perspective

00:17:41.400 that the family goes on um whereas in the arthurian legend mordred is the only person

00:17:48.120 capable of damaging Arthur and that's because he is um already of his stock of his line and so you

00:17:59.320 see this uh dichotomy that I think is purposely brought into these stories to give the audience

00:18:07.360 a gasp effect when they're hearing these stories they're like whoa no that why but then it's like

00:18:13.840 the reasoning behind it is based upon lineage power and ultimately humming you from a people

00:18:21.560 and this is more or less like a hail mary or a uh you know just that long shot um down the down

00:18:31.160 the field um and it's not it was the importance of lineage as well it's something to note

00:18:38.040 And the royal houses of old Europe, quite a few of them trace their royal claim to the throne back to descent from Odin.

00:18:56.460 The Swedish royal house was traced back to Freyr.

00:19:01.440 um you have the Merovingians tracing theirs back to a sea monster you have these very powerful

00:19:12.040 mythological connections from the other world to these kings and these lines of kingship and

00:19:21.440 the power of that inheritance

00:19:23.840 is seen as a very

00:19:25.820 very real

00:19:27.840 force

00:19:29.840 of destiny

00:19:31.780 that's why

00:19:33.520 Sinfjolti

00:19:35.680 being doubly 1.00

00:19:37.020 of the Volsung stock

00:19:39.260 you know

00:19:41.260 makes the super Volsung

00:19:43.580 as it were

00:19:46.000 yeah and it

00:19:49.300 I think that it's a commonality in all peoples when they speak about their legends in relation to clans or groups or regions, and there are rising kings and their children.

00:20:08.840 And the connection to the divine, whether it's Lord Odin or whether it's the holy fray or and the possibilities of other gods, perhaps under different names.

00:20:22.040 And we don't quite know, you know, tracing the lineage back to Saxonaut or Ehrman or Ehrman, which generally people will say it's all that, you know, that that's Lord Odin.

00:20:36.500 We don't fully know, but that connection back is important, but I think also that the audience knew that the doubling up of that caused problems.

00:20:51.380 I believe that it was already taboo, and that was the gasp of it.

00:20:58.220 It was to get a reaction out of the audience.

00:21:02.220 The other thing is, I've been working on just trying to find connection points. I think that, so the Arthurian legends, if they are of Britannic origins of the Roman era, then they most certainly would have been influential or brought to via story into the Nordic or Germanic culture.

00:21:27.940 and i think that our ancestors the different branches of arians borrowed from each other

00:21:33.580 the other ways it could be the other way around we just don't know if there was an older form of

00:21:39.260 this story since it clearly has connections to the migration periods which is also roman um

00:21:45.920 that they they influenced each other in some way and that was the same thing i i had brought up

00:21:52.580 about the story of um harbar where lord thor and lord odin have a battle across a river and it is

00:22:01.700 very reminiscent to the slavic stories between perun the striker and velez the lord of magic

00:22:10.340 underworld so i i feel that a lot of people don't look at the stories as stories they look at them as

00:22:18.740 academic ventures in in writing but don't ever consider what the stories attend intending to do

00:22:28.100 how the audience um would react why things are being said the way they are and also how different

00:22:37.220 groups interacting with each other would have influenced each other with story dynamics that

00:22:44.340 they liked um so that's that's something interesting just to think about i'm sure

00:22:52.020 there's probably an academic who's may have written extensively on this but

00:22:58.820 so the other thing before we also get started there's one other thing we spoke um earlier about

00:23:04.660 helgi hundings bana and held the helgi the bane of hunting he is a son of sigmund so after sigmund

00:23:16.420 settles down he gets revenge his sister passes sinful filthy is his right-hand man he settles

00:23:23.300 down and he has many children and one of the children is helgi hundingsbane or just helgi

00:23:30.340 before he gets the revenge on hunding um his stories we have already covered two of those

00:23:38.840 large um bodies of work and there is a connection there and helgi becomes his own uh superhero

00:23:48.360 uh much like if we were to read stories about jason or um odysseus or hercules there is these

00:23:59.720 splitting of stories with connections but going down into their own rabbit holes so right before

00:24:08.440 we left in chapter 8 and chapter 9 there was this establishment of helgi being an offspring of

00:24:15.380 sigmund and leaning into the a good part of his story and then it in this chapter it cuts away

00:24:24.820 and we start to move back to the volsungs and what they're doing so the the eight and nine are kind

00:24:30.660 of intermission from the story after so much craziness happens um so uh chapter 10 the ending

00:24:45.460 of Sinfjalti, Sigmund's son. So the Volsungs fare back home and have gained great renown by these 0.89

00:24:57.540 deeds, but Sinfjalti betook himself to warfare anew, and therewith he had sight of an exceedingly 0.97

00:25:06.280 fair woman and yearned above all things for her but that same woman was wooed also of the brother

00:25:15.200 of borghild the king's wife so a couple of things one sin filthy is the distilled volsung war power

00:25:32.080 and it was stated earlier sin filthy is built for war he's he's uh his gift of being double

00:25:41.680 is that he is vicious he is um almost like a berserker and and he did run with his father

00:25:51.640 wolfgang um and it seems to have affected him and he carries that with him and after his father

00:26:00.960 marries again um that his queen has a brother named uh sorry i actually they don't state the

00:26:13.040 name yet um but borghild has a brother and he is wooing a woman that's sin filthy suddenly

00:26:22.980 he sees her and he is absolutely enamored with her. And he is not a man necessarily to trifle

00:26:31.940 with. He is a very, very scarred man from birth for obvious reasons. So he is wooed also by the

00:26:45.320 brother of Borghild, who is the king's wife. And this matter they fought out betwixt them,

00:26:51.000 And Sinfjolti slew that king. So he was also a king, her brother. And thereafter, he harried far and wide. So the usage of the word harried, it survives in our word, ein herjar, ones who, in essence, it means to attack or to raid.

00:27:16.580 but it also means to ascend poetic words in old morse have double meanings vowel can mean slaying

00:27:24.800 or uh you know to slay and then vowel can also mean chosen or to be chosen or to be the one

00:27:34.940 choosing um in this case harried survives in that sense of being one who is elevated one who's being

00:27:44.280 an anointed and also one who attacks or is of soldierliness in our language it mainly survives

00:27:54.000 in the sense of um flying and that's why like in the marine corps they have a jet called the harrier

00:28:01.340 and there's a harrier falcon or hawk i believe and um the the other usage of the word for fighting

00:28:09.520 and uh kind of like if wolves are biting at the hind legs of a large animal that it would be said

00:28:16.240 that they are harrying the animal um nipping and biting slowly uh to tear it down and um

00:28:24.380 that has kind of been lost so here he says you know that he's he after he slays Borghild's brother

00:28:31.980 um he goes and vikings the land um

00:28:38.200 so let's see thereafter he harried far and wide and had many a battle and even gained the day

00:28:47.160 he became hereby honored and renowned above all men but in autumn tide he came home with many

00:28:55.060 ships and abundant wealth so again built for war sinfalti's purpose is marred with this

00:29:10.420 overarching sense that this is all he knows this is all he's good at

00:29:14.980 he's phenomenal at it and he gains his his uh renown through that

00:29:21.220 then he told his tidings to the king his father sigmund and he again to the queen and she for her

00:29:33.100 part bid him get uh bid him get him gone from the realm and made it as if she would in no wise 0.96

00:29:42.740 see him because he slayed her brother who was going after the same woman so she's holding true

00:29:50.760 to her clan and to her people just like the volsungs did um and so she has no love for sin filthy 0.68

00:30:01.320 um 0.55

00:30:05.800 but sigmund said he would not drive him away he would not banish him from the kingdom despite his

00:30:11.960 wife's anger and offered her atonement of gold and of great wealth for her brother's life albeit he

00:30:18.680 said he had never erst given ware guild so a lot of folks announced a true no about ware guilds and

00:30:28.680 even though it was never proclaimed anywhere that if there was the loss of him there would be a a

00:30:37.080 paid uh re-debt or paying off of debt or paying off a debt because of the loss of him

00:30:44.600 it didn't matter. He said, I would gladly give your family golds to pay off that my son

00:30:55.080 killed your brother. So here's kind of a point of Alcitru and our concept of justice.

00:31:02.760 in many ways the idea of justice comes to rebalancing scales when a wrong is done

00:31:18.280 there is a a tangible value that is taken from a person or a group of people

00:31:25.640 and it survives today in this idea that one pays their debt to society

00:31:31.000 but not really you know the victims of crimes get very very little out of someone doing decades of

00:31:39.200 time in prison the idea of regaining lost honor is fundamental to our sense of justice but also

00:31:48.580 just value a man of your folk especially someone who is of great renown or of importance taking

00:31:59.600 that away from your family diminishes your family's influence it diminishes your family's

00:32:05.280 future diminishes your family's productivity if you own a farm and the guy that does all the farming

00:32:13.440 is killed the widow and children are stuck in a very bad way because they no longer have the

00:32:21.760 ability to care for themselves um you know if you're part of a and again businesses in the day

00:32:30.160 were family businesses if you your family were cobblers or blacksmiths or whatever else and you

00:32:36.960 take away one of the sons or one of the uncles or one of the people who is instrumental in doing

00:32:42.320 that there's a tremendous value loss if they're warriors and your living and your renown and the

00:32:48.480 prominence of your family is based on war deeds and someone slays the hero of your of your line

00:32:56.720 there's a value so the idea of assigning value to life and paying that as a way of restitution

00:33:05.520 is the idea of wear guilt if it's always an endless feuding vengeance cycle everybody dies

00:33:12.400 and ultimately it's very destructive socially so the option is presented to still rate get your

00:33:19.680 honor and get recompense by assigning a value to the person that was taken from you and you know

00:33:28.000 the person who's guilty of that repaying you know paying their debt of what they took from you with

00:33:34.960 with their slaying and that's what he mentions here um and it's a point of pride like now he's

00:33:41.600 He's killed a lot of men, and this is the first one that he's willing to, you know,

00:33:46.260 make some sort of compensation for to make it right, and the fact of him being willing

00:33:50.760 to do so is a, you know, a tremendous nod of the head and courtesy of him being willing

00:33:58.620 to do so.

00:33:59.620 And that also touches on something that's important in House of Truth.

00:34:04.480 He is not legally obliged to pay this Ware Guild in any way.

00:34:10.760 There is a nobility.

00:34:14.460 A lot of people, I'm trying to think how to approach this.

00:34:17.240 I apologize for the disjointed nature of it.

00:34:23.760 We don't ever want to mistakenly define Al-Satru as the opposite of Christianity or the opposite of something else.

00:34:34.420 And in the early days of the modern reforging of Al-Satru, there's this. 0.70

00:34:40.680 oh, Christians forgive, and I was sure I never forgive. That's ludicrous. There is a nobility 0.91

00:34:47.720 in being able to extend somebody a kindness, let something slide, pay a fine that maybe you don't

00:34:57.000 have to pay, but out of a generosity of spirit. The idea of generosity of spirit is within our

00:35:05.680 virtues certainly and is a noble thing to do and is honestly kind of a nobility flex that you're

00:35:12.600 so well off you are able to part with you know part with some of that wealth in order to square

00:35:22.720 a debt or make somebody feel whole or make someone who you acknowledge in some way feel compensated

00:35:30.180 or feel honored so both of those pieces of our also true concept of justice are reflected in

00:35:38.500 this story and i wanted to point that out well she listens to him and she says so seeing that

00:35:54.900 she might not get her own way in this i.e him being outlawed um she says to him uh thy will

00:36:04.900 in this matter oh my lord for it is seemly so to be uh seemly again is the germanic word for

00:36:14.660 honorable it's an honorable thing um for her to accept it and for her for him to

00:36:23.700 uh lend it out the seniorness is again that correct action and so she says she will take it

00:36:33.140 and she holds a funeral uh feast for her brother by the aid in the council of the king

00:36:41.220 and makes ready all things there over in the best of wise and bade thither many great men

00:36:47.620 at the feast lorghild the queen bear the drink of the folk so she's carrying the horn to

00:36:56.740 the the high table there is the high seat and she has a seat amongst them but for her to ladle 0.94

00:37:07.060 or to receive a horn from a like a maid maiden and then bring it forth for each of the people 0.97

00:37:17.460 in the high seat to to uh to drink and um at the feast the queen bears the drink to the folk 0.68

00:37:28.340 And she comes over against Sinfjolti with her horn and says, fall to now and drink, fair stepson.

00:37:37.540 And I thought it was interesting that the translation for stepson in Old Norse is stupsonr, stepsonr, stepson.

00:37:51.060 So I didn't realize the usage of that word would be the same.

00:37:58.340 then he took the horn to him and looked therein and said nay for the drink is charmed drink

00:38:06.500 then said sigmund give it unto me then therewith he took the horn and drank it off but the queen

00:38:14.500 said to sin fealty why must other men needs drink thine ale for thee and she came again the second

00:38:22.580 time with the horn and said come now drink and goaded him with many words and he took the horn

00:38:30.820 and said guile is in the drink and thereon sigmund cried out give it unto me so this is

00:38:38.500 the second horn and we know kind of again arian um mythic cycles and purposes it's the three number

00:38:50.500 is going to be a big one so um again the third time she came to him so his father sigmund takes

00:39:00.660 it drinks the second one and again the third time she came to him and bade him to drink off his drink

00:39:06.740 and if he had the heart of a volsung then he uh then he laid hand on the horn but said venom is

00:39:15.780 therein nay let the lip strain it out then oh son quoth sigmund in essence i've always

00:39:24.020 taken that to be a translation that like let let your mustache strain it out um

00:39:32.900 but he says yeah no you'll you'd be able to to stop it or you know ill will it um

00:39:42.180 against that it wouldn't be able to move against you and um and by then he was exceedingly drunk

00:39:51.400 from drinking the two horns before and thereof spoke he in that wise so he's speaking crazy

00:40:00.140 because he's too in but sin fealty drinks and straight away he fell down dead on the ground

00:40:08.020 Sigmund rose up and sorrowed nigh to death over him

00:40:13.000 Then he took the corpse in his arms and fared away to the wood

00:40:17.460 And went till he came to a certain Firth

00:40:21.420 Now for those, again, following in from stories before

00:40:25.300 Firths are fjords, the English equivalent

00:40:29.820 And then he saw a man in a little boat

00:40:33.880 And that man asked if he would, if he would be wafted by him over the firth. So he meets a ferryman. And, and clearly we, we see this again, another, there we're leading into the mythical and the divine.

00:40:55.460 so uh let's see sorry i always lose it when i do this and then he saw a man in a little boat and

00:41:06.260 that man asked if he would be wafted by him over the firth and he said yes there too but so little

00:41:12.400 was the boat that they might not all go at once so the corpse was first laid therein while sigmund

00:41:19.400 went by the first side but therewith the boat and the man vanished away before sigmund's eyes

00:41:28.680 so lord odin takes sin filthy and the connection between lord odin as a psychopomp in comparison

00:41:39.240 to other aryan branches of faith is well established and i think this is also something

00:41:46.040 that our ancestors more or less knew i'm not saying that every one of our ancestors had a

00:41:52.440 theological grounding in in these concepts but once it was spoken

00:42:00.360 they most likely knew or there was someone going that's lord olden that's taken him

00:42:06.040 um we see this again he's so intertwined throughout the story with the sword being

00:42:15.240 placed into the tree here and then again and i don't want to spoil it but he comes

00:42:20.600 again in an involvement with sigmund um so his presence is ever pervading paralleling

00:42:31.160 this journey and he consistently comes in and out and i think our ancestors knew that that was um

00:42:38.920 absolutely the the cameo of the gods coming in and out just flavored it into enough to where

00:42:47.800 they were just like oh oh this is gonna be good like this is gonna be epic um so thereafter

00:42:54.520 sigmund turned back to home turned back to home and drave away the queen so he

00:43:01.320 is now enraged he drives her out and little after she died so they don't story-wise really follow

00:43:11.940 into and he doesn't get revenge he just outlaws her but sigmund the king yet ruled his realm

00:43:18.560 and is deemed ever the greatest champion and the king of the old law that's a another great point

00:43:27.460 is uh al-serigo they and i were talking about kingship and where exactly the view of kingship

00:43:34.660 and crowns and and things of that nature um i think that there was influence coming up

00:43:43.620 uh especially when they they juxtapose their view of kingship uh to say uh the way that hellenics

00:43:52.660 did it with an emperor and this is noted um even when the king king odaker becomes king of italy

00:44:02.340 he purposely says he's not an emperor he is a king and he will rule from ravenna and he rules

00:44:10.340 based on germanic dictates versus hellenistic dictates and so i think that that part there is

00:44:19.220 referencing that that uh sigmund rules um in the more germanic sense and and what that would mean

00:44:28.340 really is kind of like what tacitus you know writes about is that the germanic folk would let

00:44:35.220 uh people of the court wear weapons um and uh speak freely um and that the the king is a warrior

00:44:46.980 he's brought up from warriorship whereas an emperor might be uh you know more of a logistic

00:44:53.860 minded person or someone who works their way to the top through cunning um and there's this

00:45:01.940 air of difference that i think is re-emphasized ever so often through the lore i'd like to

00:45:08.660 mention a couple of things before we move to chapter 11.

00:45:11.460 i think this is really important and again those of you just joining us we will absolutely get to

00:45:21.100 the story and it'll take as long as it takes but the idea behind it um on these episodes is for

00:45:27.160 spawn and i to illuminate points and illustrations that are fundamental to our to our religion here

00:45:35.040 And one of the things that is interesting, a lot of the time in the early days of the reforging of Ausatru, there is a disproportionate focus on democracy.

00:45:55.260 democracy there is an association with Icelandic democracy as if that were the

00:46:03.420 ultimate expression of also true governance that's not the case there's a lot of right

00:46:10.260 ways to do this there's a lot of ways to govern that are substantiated or are expressed by our

00:46:20.880 ancestors but one of them that is extremely valid and extremely ancient is the idea of kingship

00:46:28.320 and kingship amongst our folk

00:46:32.880 was not in any way a slap against having a level of grandeur that an emperor or an eastern king

00:46:43.440 would have but it's the added weight of responsibility you see that the king isn't

00:46:52.080 like cloistered and shut away and like being worshiped from some distance as he sits in a

00:47:04.800 palace and reaps benefit the king is made on the battlefield we see that time and again in the

00:47:12.240 story the king you know is made by their warrior prominence there was often a number of people of

00:47:21.240 appropriate blood lineage that could be considered for kingship and the one that became king and was

00:47:27.040 elevated was the one that demonstrated their ability to lead and it goes into

00:47:33.680 a number of factors but one of those factors and this goes into our noble virtue of victory

00:47:45.180 the possessing of victoriousness the luck that a king had to be successful

00:47:55.180 and to accomplish was part of what merited his reign his uh reiki he would have

00:48:04.400 the he would be victorious he would have he would carry with him victory so courage feet of arms

00:48:13.900 the boldness to lead in battle and you see this throughout the medieval period where

00:48:18.860 if there's a pitched battle that king's banner would be what would drive his knights forward

00:48:26.480 or make them fall back and if the banner went down and people like okay it's time to go home

00:48:32.100 king's dead battle's done um in an earlier time sometimes the king would be uh the champion and

00:48:41.960 him and a rival king might go out and settle the score themselves as we move into the more

00:48:48.280 historic period and the high medieval age we see the kings take the field very often and it's also

00:48:55.960 important to I know our folk it is it is very seductive to look at everything in the extremes

00:49:06.060 but there's a lot of variance certainly it wasn't expected that a 80 year old king was going to go

00:49:13.900 out on the field and have the same warrior prowess as you know a 30 year old king might have

00:49:22.220 but all of that was done within the reasonableness of respecting their prowess

00:49:28.780 i don't i'm sure that the ladies have a way of doing this that is different but i speak as a man

00:49:36.060 And every one of us as men, we go through an initial feeling out process when you meet

00:49:46.200 another man, where you think you and that man fit in a martial and primal level on who's

00:49:58.800 coming out on top.

00:50:00.000 If a fight happened, who's going to win?

00:50:02.080 who do we think is you know the more chad of the two whatever that is we all experience that as a

00:50:09.760 man and it sound it can sound silly but i think everyone who's a man on here knows that that's

00:50:15.680 a thing you do when you meet other men you test them out you look them in the eye you give each

00:50:20.080 other a handshake you sense who has the gravitas to lead and who has the gravitas to follow and

00:50:29.840 you kind of piece that together and there's rank and protocol and social situations where

00:50:36.240 that might be skewed but you guys kind of know amongst each other and people act accordingly

00:50:42.320 and again that is different you may have a young man that obviously could you know

00:50:48.800 beat the pants off an old man but they see within them a a presence when we talk about the uh

00:50:59.840 the other self, to a degree, when we talk about the hammer, we're talking about your projected

00:51:08.060 sense of self that goes beyond your physical limitations. And I think, you know, many of us

00:51:15.840 have seen that when you look at an aged veteran or an aged, you know, in our time, an aged athlete

00:51:23.900 sometimes somebody that you know you can tell that that guy is somebody and you see that and

00:51:32.380 that presents itself in a very powerful way when we talk about royalty especially in in sagas

00:51:41.500 that's why often there will be somebody of you know humble birth that seems like a nobody but

00:51:46.620 people will react and see that they have a regal bearing to them they have something and then you'll

00:51:51.100 find out that you know secretly they're a foundling and they they trace their line back to some kings

00:51:57.180 because their regality is is manifest in the way they carry themselves and in the projected image

00:52:07.100 that they have and so they've got to like back discover like hey who is this guy because we know

00:52:12.780 he's someone um and also i want to acknowledge you guys are generous and amazing we have raised

00:52:20.460 two hundred and seven dollars so far this evening towards paying off new york's off

00:52:26.540 thank you guys for that we have folk builder alexandra casto who bought us three coffees

00:52:32.220 that's a fifteen dollar donation thank you alexander we've got bill in tennessee that

00:52:37.980 donated sixty five dollars to the new york's off uh payoff appreciate it bill thank you

00:52:44.860 and excuse me we have sarah who donated 42 to the new york's half fund and we definitely

00:52:51.740 appreciate that thank you sarah you guys are awesome you guys continue to amaze and it's much

00:52:57.580 much appreciated yeah the um the one thing that i would like to add to that is that um

00:53:09.260 heimdall comes to the folk he comes to great-grandmother great-grandfather so the

00:53:20.520 the generation that is um in the story represented by great-grandmother great-grandfather

00:53:28.300 and he slowly builds and finally under father and mother their exalted son the one that is focused

00:53:35.920 on the one that has taught the runes is his name is king so king is one of the oldest forms and

00:53:43.040 titles really to mean leader um and that leadership is attained um in different ways of different

00:53:53.440 forms of governance but our ancestors going all the way back the primary form of governance was

00:53:59.600 conquest and the reason why iceland is a democratic sense is because they were one dealing with

00:54:09.440 harold the fair hair and he had a very bad uh overall view the way they were looking at him

00:54:17.920 and so i think they were coming over there with that rejection in mind the other was there was

00:54:23.040 no conquest of of iceland there was a divvying out of land and they were attempting to keep the peace

00:54:29.840 so that there would be no wars that there would be no conquest and that's ultimately what led to it

00:54:35.360 i think that the people of iceland that moved there initially were very familiar with the

00:54:40.800 concepts of kings and conquest but not only that they go back to norway or to england often to

00:54:49.440 serve kings because they understand kings are something special they don't have their own king

00:54:55.680 they exist kind of outside of that but they seek the ser being in service of a king because that

00:55:02.320 was you know you weren't a king yourself that was the ultimate for any warrior is to be in service

00:55:09.280 of a great king um the other thing is and we're extremely grateful because we encounter our folk

00:55:19.600 encounter literacy as the establishment of iceland happens it is a flourishing it is a golden age

00:55:31.760 amongst our folk of poetry of song of writing of storytelling so that's where we get so many of our

00:55:40.080 our things but we need to never lose sight and also true that also true has existed

00:55:46.320 since the dawn of our folk it's existed since the ice age it's existed since hyperborea and

00:55:54.640 And just because the last glimpses that we see before it was overtaken by Christianity were of an Icelandic flavor, it's not to mean that that's the be-all, end-all of our faith.

00:56:11.240 um there's a lot you could learn but i often wonder you know what would future anthropologists

00:56:20.040 think christianity is when they uncover all these you know gangster rappers with big

00:56:25.240 jesus pieces on their their album covers you know tupac's not saint thomas aquinas

00:56:31.960 but he's got a big you know bedazzled jesus swinging around his neck

00:56:37.160 so it's never we do ourselves a disservice if we only see this one sliver of time or people who

00:56:45.820 happen to also be also true but for example people think that i was true equals vikings

00:56:52.100 the vikings were also true and in that part of the world at that time period the prominence of

00:57:01.440 being an armed raider was at the forefront but generations earlier there are farmers who are

00:57:10.960 ousatru there are kings in cities that are ousatru there are you know blacksmiths that are

00:57:19.120 ousatru there are fishermen who are ousatru there were charioteers on the the caucuses who are

00:57:25.680 ousatru there's a much bigger tapestry of what makes our folk than this very late example that 0.69

00:57:33.840 we see in the viking age which again nuances everything vikings are awesome i don't think

00:57:40.240 anybody on here would contend that they are not they are awesome and they capture our spirit and

00:57:46.080 our imagination in a really special way we also need to keep in mind that there is more to it than

00:57:53.280 just that however

00:57:58.240 our end we've got one chapter in all right yeah well and uh this kind of brings us into

00:58:06.880 uh i think the area where most most people know about um the volsung sagas is around sigurd

00:58:17.360 uh the dragon slayer but that involves again in all of these stories there's a

00:58:24.900 kind of a the rise and the fall of the predecessor or the progenitor in order okay last last thing

00:58:33.140 and i'm going to go spawn into chapter 11 but that is important and i like that this is the

00:58:39.360 well sunga saga and not sigurd saga for that reason when we're reading uh eo saga i think

00:58:48.060 we're halfway into the second episode before his birth because again it's a dynastic saga that

00:58:55.880 often takes the name of one of the characters at least the character who got the name of the saga

00:59:02.020 was the progenitor of the line so it was all of his uh his descendancy that ended up being a lot

00:59:09.620 of the focus but yeah this is much greater than just a story of uh sigrid the dragon slayer this

00:59:16.500 is of his family of the tribe the bulsums who established this amazing dynasty of our of our

00:59:26.820 ancestors well and here we have it in chapter 11 it's of king sigmund's last battle and of how he

00:59:36.580 must yield up his sword again so the usage of that is interesting in the the taking up the sword for

00:59:48.500 the battle or giving over the sword um but that's in this part so there was a king called ailemi

01:00:03.300 and i was just reading uh watching a video recently about how ey may may have been a

01:00:09.060 you sound like early me but i'm just gonna go with island me um i let me mighty and have great fame

01:00:19.700 and his daughter was called cured us the fairest and wisest of womankind of womankind and sigmund

01:00:30.740 hears it whole told of her that she was to meet her wait was meet to be his wife

01:00:42.100 so again some of this uh typing is is throwing out they were she was to meet him to be his wife

01:00:50.260 i if none else were so he goes to the house of king illimi who would make a great feast for him

01:00:59.300 if so be he comes not thither in the guise of a foe so messages messages were sent from one

01:01:09.460 to the other that his present journey was a peaceful one and not of war so the feast was

01:01:16.380 held in the best of wise and with many a man thereat fares were in every place so

01:01:24.160 in essence as long as he comes under a banner of peace he may enter and meet the king and his

01:01:34.120 his daughter and so they send out messengers ahead of themselves and bear to everyone so that no one

01:01:42.820 goes running up to the king and saying oh there's like a whole army coming no we're here under peace

01:01:49.080 and it works they they they get together and they hold a great feast um and they have

01:01:57.380 much a fanfare going on with markets etc um and so many uh many men were there at

01:02:09.100 fairs were in every place oh and that's another thing i wanted to bring up because

01:02:13.120 um i think recently there was some ridiculous news uh interview where a woman was talking about

01:02:21.200 um mankind and person kind or whatever but especially here this is uh even as it's

01:02:28.960 translated it is being listed at many a man and in that case they're talking about people and

01:02:38.380 masculine the masculine in all germanic languages man and then mankind or man in a general sense

01:02:48.060 was seen as all people so the masculine had to share the identity with the folk or the nation

01:02:56.380 or the tribe at a whole and women were uniquely their own um they were like an anglo-saxon they

01:03:02.780 were called um so not even fully separated from it but uh in old norse they were called corner um

01:03:13.180 which connected to the eastern germanic gothic word uh quenu i believe it's q meaning woman

01:03:23.900 and it survives in our language with queen but the idea was that a woman was unique

01:03:31.420 uh and did not have to share her identity with the whole which i think is very telling considering how

01:03:38.620 um there is forces or or ideologies attacking women and have been attacking

01:03:46.460 women in or even trying to utilize women against themselves in a lot of ways

01:03:51.500 um but in this case here where it says there uh that many a man made fairs and were there at

01:03:58.860 there's they're talking about people um and they uh in every place they were established therefore

01:04:07.020 king sigmund and all things were else were done to aid and comfort his journey

01:04:13.660 so he came to the feast and both kings hold their state in one hall thither also was come king

01:04:23.260 lingi son of king hunding now remember helgi uh who is the son of sigmund who's this is who we're

01:04:34.860 talking about right now sigmund helgi ends up slaying king hunding and that's where he gains

01:04:41.820 his title hundings bana or hunding bane um but this is king hunding's son who is also a king as

01:04:49.500 well and kings were landholders they were uh they had gained through conquest they had uh

01:04:57.420 gained through providence and um had established themselves and had men um underneath them things

01:05:04.540 or you know uh athelings um so king lingi is the son of king hunding he's also there

01:05:14.140 and he also is wooing the daughter of king ailemi so now we have a very similar situation to what

01:05:23.020 happened with his son um sin filthy which we also never find out um what happens it's kind of a i i

01:05:33.660 wonder if in slaying the other suitor um he goes viking after that he goes so

01:05:43.980 what if there was some fallout there that she did not take to him because he slayed you know

01:05:51.180 an another a rival suitor and then he just basically said screw this and he leaves off

01:05:58.460 with his men and he just attacks towns or you know attacks other armies and other lands um

01:06:05.660 because he doesn't end up uh kind of getting with her and that just curtly falls off um

01:06:16.460 so now we have the son of um

01:06:22.700 king uh king or sorry the con the son of king hunding king lingi and sigmund are now trying to

01:06:31.500 woo ailemi's daughter whose name is hordas now the king deemed he knew that the twain had come

01:06:42.300 thither but for one errand so the king ailemi because again we're using the the king titles

01:06:51.420 um used a lot but king aimlimi is he knows that king sigmund and king lingi have come here for

01:06:59.020 one purpose, and that is to attain the hand of his daughter. And that thought with all that war

01:07:07.660 and trouble might be looked for from the hands of him who brought not his end about. So that war

01:07:15.680 would come from the one who did not win her hand. So he spake to his daughter and said,

01:07:22.480 thou art a wise woman and i have spoken it that thou alone shalt choose a husband for thyself

01:07:30.280 choose thereof between these two kings my reed shall be even as thine now we see this happen a

01:07:39.080 lot in the icelandic sagas where a uh a man will come to the house and he will seek um the hand of

01:07:48.700 the the father's daughter now a lot of people will try to you know shake their fists and

01:07:54.800 gnash their teeth teeth and say that they're chattel and property but remember with no legal

01:08:00.680 systems about a woman's defense was the male members of her family her father and her brothers

01:08:09.140 were the ones that would die or go and attempt to rectify any crimes brought against her so

01:08:17.640 their lives were literally on the line and at the same sense in a lot of the sagas you'll hear them

01:08:27.340 say uh i approve or i i don't approve but it ultimately falls upon my daughter's decision

01:08:36.360 and generally whenever they did not approve um they were very strong-willed about it or

01:08:42.540 that's when that character aspect would show up more is that the father is going to become a

01:08:49.920 a barrier but if they agree a lot of times they would simply fall to the decision of their

01:08:59.080 daughters and he was there as protection knowing that if she chooses one the other one might get

01:09:07.760 wild and he has to take care of that something to think about too is

01:09:22.000 we have a disproportionate emphasis in the world today on what our rights are

01:09:28.480 to our ancestors in the also true worldview one's rights are important but what was also

01:09:39.520 balanced to that is one's duty you often find daughters making matches that they don't want to

01:09:47.360 or that you know otherwise wouldn't be their preference because that's what's going to advance

01:09:56.960 their clan their family that's what's going to unite their father's kingdom and another powerful

01:10:05.200 kingdom that's what's going to you know and it it extends you know that's what's going to help

01:10:13.120 her father's farm interface with you know the guy her father farms hogs and the guy who makes

01:10:21.680 hog feed in the other farm this will make that mercantile alliance work well you know be it

01:10:29.040 bigger you know a guy who's got a decent war band is going to help her father have power and 0.93

01:10:35.120 protection and warriors at his side when he needs them um in the case of queens that's going to

01:10:42.000 unite the realm and bring peace that's going to bring a diplomatic alliance that will ensure the

01:10:48.240 the survival of her kingdom or family or dynasty it's not that they you know it it says often in

01:10:56.720 our sagas when you read that they choose to abide by the will of their father or they choose to

01:11:02.780 you know take the father's read in this or they choose to whatever very often it's expressed

01:11:08.420 it's never expressed and so the king gave him his her daughter his daughter that's very seldom do

01:11:15.000 see that it's very often so the king talked to his daughters like hey this is what i want you to do

01:11:21.160 or hey what do you want to do because we got to be ready for the consequences

01:11:27.320 um there is a duty amongst aryan noble people to embrace 0.93

01:11:34.440 your social obligations rather than just you know be silly or ruled by emotion on these things

01:11:45.660 well and her her decisions and the actions thereafter are also it's under it needs to

01:11:58.100 understood that this is not historical as it is a hybridization of historical with um legend

01:12:08.100 and mythos kind of all of these things intertwined and none of that makes for a good

01:12:16.420 story to be told if it's just they went here and established a kingdom

01:12:21.620 no there always has to be that what's going to happen next so she says to her father it is a

01:12:30.860 hard and troublesome matter yet I will choose him who is of the greater fame

01:12:36.660 so whoever has more renown and she's already made her opinion on this King Sigmund to wife

01:12:44.920 albeit he will he is well stricken in years so even though sigmund is now older um she will go

01:12:53.400 with him for he has greater fame greater power um so to him was she betrothed and king lingi

01:13:04.680 got him gone so as soon as she chooses him king lingi is like and he just packs up his stuff and

01:13:12.920 and he leaves.

01:13:14.500 Not a good sign.

01:13:17.900 Then was Sigmund wedded to Hjordes,

01:13:21.640 and now each day was the feast better and more glorious than the day before.

01:13:27.860 But thereafter, Sigmund went back home to Hunland,

01:13:32.160 and King Ailemi, his father-in-law, with him,

01:13:36.640 and King Sigmund betakes himself to the due of ruling his realm.

01:13:42.920 so at this point it's an it's worth noting like king ailemi is now this is his son-in-law but

01:13:51.480 king sigmund's older in age so they're they're a lot closer in age and he goes to like look

01:13:59.480 at king singman's realm he gets a chance to kind of see from within the court um

01:14:06.920 And Sigmund goes back to ruling. But King Lingi, who is the son of Hunding, and again, there's this establishment Hunding to Helgi and the son of Helgi to the father of Helgi.

01:14:26.220 So there's a crossover there, which again, I think our ancestors looked at poetic movement and reflection. They looked at the way things were placed. They looked at the commonalities between things, the polaric sense, starting all the way back with Nivelheim and Muspelheim.

01:14:50.000 There's always this sense of balance. There's a sense of spiritual movement and that those movements have power, which is why cosmology is so important and why I always harp on, you know, moving away from incorrect thoughts where these are notions and theories that people are placing out there.

01:15:12.140 Like, that Lord Odin is the only god that is of rightful to the sky, but, you know, Lord Frey was also held to kingship, and so was, you know, like, many other gods mentioned, and so it just kind of seemed strange.

01:15:31.620 or that uh yggdrasil is uh you know below the base is below the worlds and the roots are in the

01:15:39.180 underworld and that kind of stuff these are those throw off a balance of movement that takes place

01:15:45.180 throughout all of our stories you have to be careful um and you need to try to find the

01:15:52.320 patterns when you can find them and in this case helgi's or sigmund's son helgi kills

01:16:01.040 uh king lingi's father and now the son king lingi is going after king sigmund

01:16:09.760 and there's a kind of that dualistic pattern um

01:16:12.960 but king lingi and his brethren gather an army together to fall upon sigmund for as in all

01:16:24.640 matters they were want to have the worser lot so did this bite the sorest of all and they would

01:16:32.240 feign prevail over the might and the pride of the volsungs so they came to hunland and said sent

01:16:40.800 king sigmund word how they would not steal upon him and that they deemed he would scarce

01:16:48.240 slink away from them so sigmund said he would come and meet them in battle and drew his power

01:16:55.840 together but hiortis his new bride was born in the wood with a certain bond mate and mighty wealth

01:17:04.720 went with her and there she abode the while they fought a couple things about this this stanza here 0.80

01:17:13.760 they're basically saying if he's a volsung he's not gonna run but they have arrived at its land

01:17:21.120 to fight a war and this was on everyone's mind and the audience was already kind of seeing this coming

01:17:27.280 because there was two trying to get curtis's hand but the fact that he

01:17:35.360 sends hordis with a a servant woman into the woodlands with all the wealth is kind of a

01:17:43.040 foreshadowing to um the the the might and the power as he's older he's now taking

01:17:51.280 these precautions because he might not win um and he kind of he has that feeling that

01:17:58.000 this is a great cost or it could be a great cost now the vikings rushed from their ships

01:18:06.400 in numbers not to be born up against but sigmund the king and ailemi set up their banners and the

01:18:14.560 horns blew up to battle but king sigmund let blow the horn his father erst had and cheered on his

01:18:23.520 men to fight but his army was far the fewest so both sides gather and um they are leading as

01:18:36.080 these battles are fighting and i i love the you know the blowing horn is is sounded um

01:18:44.560 Now was the battle fierce and fell, and though Sigmund were old, yet mostly heartily he fought, and was ever the foremost of his men. No shield or birney, and remember birney is a chainmail shirt, might hold against him.

01:19:02.580 he cleaved through shields he cleaved through chain mail and he went ever through the ranks of

01:19:09.460 his foe men on that day and no man might see how things would fare between them many an arrow and

01:19:17.880 many a spear was aloft in the air that day and so his spy rights wrought for him um remember spy

01:19:28.920 is uh to be able to see or foretell the um uh actually let me let me double check before i

01:19:40.480 say that because spy spy craft is to be able to see into the future um

01:19:47.560 spy rights you know i've always taken it to be um uh counsel or divinatory counsel of your

01:20:01.340 court but i'm and i i don't know if um nick if you could look up a little bit on that just to

01:20:07.940 make sure i'm not miscalculating but um spy s-p-a-e what's the second part of the word you

01:20:14.940 looking at dash rights w-r-i-g-h-t-s and i'm wondering too it could be a misspelling of or

01:20:23.340 it could like be spy whites or you know uh spirits of foreseeing but they tell him he will get

01:20:33.180 uh they wrought for him that he got no wound

01:20:36.380 and the other part of this is the mentioning of the spy or spow um craft being wrought being shaped

01:20:50.200 so the other kind of level of this is that he's he has members of his court who are able to see

01:20:58.360 into the future and forge an outcome uh kind of like wrought iron uh they are forging that he

01:21:10.280 will have no wound so he says and so his spy rights wrought for him that he got no wound and

01:21:20.840 none can tell over the tale of the of those who fell before him and both his arms were red with

01:21:28.760 blood even to the shoulders so that i love that so much this this whole paragraph is profound um

01:21:41.960 um yeah my understanding of that is that his spell spell sorcerers were able to you know

01:21:57.740 magically shield him or enchant him to maximize you know a good destiny with that um you're

01:22:08.000 um right w-r-i-g-h-t that happens to be my mother's maiden name um is is just a word that

01:22:14.400 means maker of or builder of and if you look in the uh old norse on the side next it's actually

01:22:20.320 the word they use is uh uh spout this year oh yes and they translated it to spout rights

01:22:28.960 so maker of the future or yeah weaver of the future his prophecy crafters yeah his future

01:22:36.160 you know goddesses slash priestesses i think that you know that is part of the enchantment

01:22:45.140 of this time you know just as he was at one point in time donning the skin of a wolf and

01:22:51.040 traveling about as a as a oofsark he has his you know sorceresses magically protect him as he's

01:23:01.720 you know old in years i guess long in the tooth as a werewolf but he's out there you know

01:23:09.640 shoulder deep in the blood of his foes

01:23:14.600 yeah and i was looking over in the norse translation and i couldn't find

01:23:18.680 where they had utilized it but yes dc are any spirit that has the ability to uh

01:23:27.880 twist the fate. The DCR of mortal men can twist the fate of their descendants if they don't give

01:23:37.760 homage to the gods, if they don't give homage to their ancestors, if they do something to bring 0.99

01:23:43.100 dishonor to the family, they turn off that hominia, that direct link that they have to the ancestors

01:23:50.540 There's dwelling beyond the veil, but also, too, Holy Freyja is referred to as Vanadis. 0.97

01:23:59.800 She is a shaper of fate for the Vanir gods of the middle world.

01:24:07.040 We've talked a lot about in our lore, there are certain terms that have a very broad meaning, like alf. 0.98

01:24:14.040 Yeah, it means elves. It also means spirits. It also means a variety of things.

01:24:19.980 Jotunar are sometimes, you know, these chaotically evil malevolent forces. 0.77

01:24:26.460 Sometimes they're ancient sources of primal wisdom. 0.88

01:24:30.800 Sometimes they are largely unconscious and just natural things put in motion without a lot of will or forethought.

01:24:40.880 Other times they're beings of great cunning and magic.

01:24:47.260 Sometimes they are trolls.

01:24:49.040 You have a big variety there with the Deesir. It's the same word can be applied to goddesses, to priestesses, to the guardian female spirits.

01:25:03.960 i think the point of commonality as von mentioned is they are shapers of shapers of fate or certainly

01:25:10.520 shapers of the numinous and i think also the commonality is it's an explicitly female term

01:25:17.720 if you are a vidki you are doing something different it may have a similar effect it may

01:25:23.080 work in in similar channels with similar things but uh dc is specifically female and you'll notice

01:25:33.080 you'll see it used for both goddess and honored female ancestor and even at times

01:25:42.200 you know magically potent priestesses yeah it's funny well it's funny that there are

01:25:50.040 goddesses amongst the vanir it's a tribe of gods but amongst them freya is the vanadice

01:25:58.200 yeah and then more near are referred to as house or the twisters of fate even for the gods as they

01:26:09.480 are part of after slaying emir they start the process but they remain amongst the gods which

01:26:19.960 is a very interesting thing and they stay there at the base of ingress at the well of earth for

01:26:27.240 the gods to dictate into the rest of the world um kind of from above so that's super interesting

01:26:35.960 the uh also alf um even uh tolkien with in reference to the character gand alf being an elf

01:26:46.040 of the wand while also in um uh the saga in helding helgi hundingspan they're referred to as

01:26:54.520 ship elves so the connection of an elf an elf being um a being that is synthesized or completely

01:27:06.680 um integrated into the element before them leos elf that's a being that's synthesized with light

01:27:17.080 and the other interesting thing is dsir has more of a a very interesting willful aspect they're

01:27:26.360 twisting they're turning they're changing whereas alvar seemed bound by duty towards the thing and

01:27:33.960 it becomes poetic in the sense that you know if he's a sword alf he he is bound to the sword he's

01:27:42.600 a man of you know of living by the sword so it becomes very poetic but it is an interesting

01:27:49.560 um verb or like verb to adjective kind of usage in that i think that's very interesting i just

01:27:58.680 now kind of i'm hitting that and i found the translation it does say yeah it's about decent

01:28:03.720 it's just in the paragraph above and i was trying to find it in the other one but i mean he has his

01:28:11.240 the ladies of his court they're they're saved corners they're they're um and they

01:28:21.960 they rot that they will change it so that he gains no wounds so he goes through and he's

01:28:27.960 clefting shields he's he's piercing chainmail shirts and he's just covered in blood all the

01:28:35.480 way up to his shoulders as he's just wrecking everyone despite his elder age

01:28:44.200 but now when s oh excuse me that's another thing they're also setting something up 0.57

01:28:50.840 i'm not spoiling it but remember if he's got these um these spoudy sir who are

01:28:59.000 they're making sure he's protected and he goes forth then it would take an enormous

01:29:05.160 amount of will to supersede that uh if if if orlog is is flowing out and then these spoudies are

01:29:17.160 like use their power in order to twist the the fate around him it would take something more

01:29:25.160 or more uh more of dominion to supersede that uh it wouldn't be like another human

01:29:33.160 or another group of Spaudi said, it would have to be even more. 0.74

01:29:37.900 I know, I know.

01:29:38.780 Back to the next paragraph here.

01:29:40.200 Before we do, hello, Claudia.

01:29:43.580 Thank you for joining us this evening.

01:29:46.120 We appreciate having you.

01:29:48.820 Svahn, take us into the rest of this chapter.

01:29:51.620 Okay.

01:29:52.440 Sorry.

01:29:53.000 I know.

01:29:53.380 It's like tinging into it.

01:29:54.520 But now, when as, this is the next paragraph.

01:29:58.100 but now when as the battle had had doored like endured it had been going for a while

01:30:06.740 there came a man into the fight clad in a blue cloak he had a slouched hat on his head and one

01:30:17.300 eyed he was clear as day they don't even try to mince it and this would uh and bear a bill

01:30:27.460 in his hand and he came against sigmund the king so for those that might not know a bill a bill

01:30:35.540 hook uh a bill is another word for a kind of broad-headed spear um and later on there was

01:30:43.700 a weapon known as a bill hook which was a spear with a hook on one side to kind of help pull

01:30:50.260 uh that the translation of it just they chose bill so he he bore a spear in his hand and he

01:30:58.660 came against sigmund the king so what was that i said going near oh yes absolutely and that's

01:31:07.220 another thing the audience would know the moment that they said he was carrying a spear in his hand

01:31:13.380 which is the spear of choosing it never misses because he he it is an instrument of his divine 0.97

01:31:21.300 will um they would know uh-oh even though he had these women that that have powers to change his 0.61

01:31:32.820 fate there is now a new power a greater power that has entered the chat and will decimate

01:31:41.380 the the the lower stuff um and he came against sigmund the king and have up his bill against him

01:31:53.920 so he he uh engages with him with the spear and as sigmund smote fiercely with the sword it fell

01:32:03.020 upon the bill on the shaft and it burst asunder in the midst and thenceforth the slaughter and

01:32:11.780 the dismay turned to his side for the good hap of king sigmund had departed from him his luck

01:32:20.360 goes away and the the tide turns and his men fell fast about him not did the king spare himself but

01:32:31.160 the rather cheered on his men but even as as the uh the saw says as even as the it's written very

01:32:42.640 oddly saw says i'm assuming as as the saying says no might against many so was it now proven

01:32:52.660 And in that fight fell Sigmund the king and King Ailemi, his father-in-law, in the forefront of the battle.

01:33:02.480 And there with the more part of their folk.

01:33:06.580 So when they say that the bill was pressed against him, what they're saying is he's run through.

01:33:17.020 and as he's run through he takes his sword and he tries to cut the the shaft of the spear and it

01:33:24.860 breaks and as soon as that happens all of the men on his side it turns for the worse and they start

01:33:34.500 dying so their connection to victory has now been dictated by lord othen that it stops and

01:33:41.760 also interesting is king ailemi his father-in-law is there with him so he went to go and see how

01:33:49.440 sigmund ran his kingdom and and uh celebrate his daughter and and uh her new husband his his son

01:33:56.320 in law and then um he gets brought up in this war and he fights with his his uh folk he doesn't

01:34:07.120 you know this is your problem or or what have you but he falls as well

01:34:13.920 and this is the the the turning tide

01:34:20.720 chapter 12 of the shards of the sword gram and how heard this went to king off

01:34:28.880 now king lingi made for the king's abode he has slain sigmund he has slain sigmund's uh father-in-law

01:34:40.820 he has bested their army and now he's moving towards the castle and was he was minded to

01:34:48.600 take the king's daughter there but felled failed herein for there he found neither wife nor wealth

01:34:55.860 so he fared through all the realm and gave his men rule thereover and now deemed that he had 0.95

01:35:03.580 slain slain all the kin of the volsungs and that he need dread them no more from henceforth 0.96

01:35:12.100 so the the legend of the volsungs and their power if you leave them alive and you slay their kin 0.88

01:35:21.920 they will get you and he's like i don't have to worry about that now and uh he then divvies out

01:35:29.680 king sigmund's land to his men because there is no uh real wealth

01:35:36.000 uh left as hyordis leaves with all of that now hyordis went admits the slain that night of battle

01:35:47.740 and came whereas there laid king sigmund and asked if he might be healed but he answered thus

01:35:57.260 many a man lives after hope has gone has grown little but my good hat has departed from me

01:36:06.220 nor will i suffer myself to be healed nor wills nor does olden will that i should ever draw a

01:36:14.940 sword again since this my sword and his because it was originally given by him is now broken

01:36:24.000 lo now i have waged war while it was his will so i've i've been in servitude to him as as he has

01:36:36.260 decreed it and now he has decreed no longer so do not heal me because i can't imagine living a life

01:36:44.740 outside of the manifestation

01:36:47.000 of will of

01:36:48.800 our high god

01:36:50.480 Odin

01:36:51.220 not ill

01:36:56.740 would I deem matters

01:36:58.560 said she if thou

01:37:00.520 mightest be healed and avenge

01:37:02.560 my father so she says

01:37:04.440 I don't think it would be ill

01:37:06.760 if I healed you and you could 1.00

01:37:08.600 reclimate 0.92

01:37:10.360 against my father

01:37:12.320 vengeance

01:37:13.660 perhaps you would be blessed if you you know if i healed you perhaps you would be blessed in the

01:37:19.940 the duty of gaining vengeance for me but the king says that is fated for another man behold now

01:37:28.340 though art great with a man child so you are pregnant and this is a the a big reveal that

01:37:38.480 would be everyone he says you know behold you're you are bearing our child nourish him well and

01:37:46.540 with good heed and the child shall be the noblest and most famed of all of our kin and keep well

01:37:53.920 with all the shards of the sword so he hands over the three pieces of gram to his wife and says

01:38:03.980 Take this, take our child that's in your belly and bring him upright. 1.00

01:38:10.800 He will be the noblest of Volsungs. 1.00

01:38:17.800 Keep with all the shards of the sword. 1.00

01:38:20.060 Thereof shall a goodly sword be made, and it shall be called Gram.

01:38:26.440 And our son shall bear it and shall work many great works therewith,

01:38:32.100 Even such as eld shall never minish, even as those that have come before us have never seen, or the likes of which have never been seen, is basically what that means.

01:38:47.680 And for his name shall abide and flourish as long as the world shall endure, and let this be a now for thee.

01:38:58.820 But now I grow weary with my wounds, and I will go see our kin that have gone before us.

01:39:09.420 So Hjordas sat over him until he died at the day dawning.

01:39:16.400 And then she looked, and behold, there came many ships sailing to the land.

01:39:22.400 Then she spake to her handmaiden, let us now change raiment and be thou called by my name and say that thou art the king's daughter.

01:39:35.480 So she suddenly realizes her danger is not over. She's pregnant and she tells her handmaiden, we will change clothing and you will go by my name and I will go by your name and pretend to be your handmaiden in order to protect the child.

01:39:58.960 and thus they did but now the vikings behold the great slaughter of men there and see where two

01:40:07.500 women fare away thence into the wood and they deemed that some great tidings must have befallen

01:40:13.520 and they leaped ashore from out of their ships now the captain of these folk were known was

01:40:21.540 called Alf, son of Hjallprek, king of Denmark, who was sailing with his power along the land.

01:40:30.840 So they came into the field amongst the slain and saw how many men lay dead there. Then the king

01:40:36.940 bade go seek for the women and bring them thither. And they did so. And he asked them what women they 1.00

01:40:44.440 were. And little as the thing seems like to be, the bondmaiden answered for the twain and said

01:40:52.700 that telling of the fall of King Sigmund and King Eilidhi and many other great men and who they

01:41:01.960 were with all who had wrought the deed. So she tells who did it as well. And then the king asks

01:41:09.460 if they wanted where the wealth of the king was bestowed and then sends the bond maiden

01:41:17.380 it may well be deemed that we know full surely thereof and therewith she guides them to the place

01:41:25.940 where the treasure lay now this is interesting because they've just confirmed that these uh

01:41:32.340 new arrivals are not their enemies and immediately they are attempting to gain

01:41:43.860 with them because with that comes the possibility of vengeance against the um the aggressors and

01:41:52.260 get back um at killing uh for her you know the slaying of her father and her husband

01:41:58.500 um and therewith she guides them to the place where the treasure lay and there they found 0.76

01:42:04.680 exceedingly great wealth so that men deem that they have never seen so many things of price

01:42:11.800 heaped upon themselves in one place all this they bore to the ships of king alf and hordis

01:42:20.100 and the bondmaid went with them therewith these sail away to their realm and talk how that surely

01:42:27.440 on that field had fallen the most renowned of kings so the king sits by the tiller king alf

01:42:37.040 and he's sitting uh near the steer but the women abide in the in the foc'sle up at the front

01:42:45.960 but talk he had with the women and held their council of much account in such wise the king

01:42:54.460 came home to his realm with great wealth and he himself was a man of exceed a man exceedingly

01:43:01.500 goodly to look upon but when he had been but a little while at home the queen his mother

01:43:09.020 asked him why the fairest of the two women had fewer rings and less worthy attire so we're we're

01:43:18.460 getting some unsaid things is that the bond maiden clearly does not look of of regal stock

01:43:26.300 and a beauty and she's not wearing um it doesn't make sense the way that they're

01:43:33.020 they're set up like this and so when they refer to him as king alf but when he comes home no he's

01:43:41.420 still he's prince he's a prince of uh the king of denmark and his mother still rules there and

01:43:48.060 she's like why is the one that looks noble dressed as a as a handmaiden um and he answers i too have

01:44:02.140 i too have misdoubted that she is little like a bond woman and when we first met it's 1.00

01:44:09.500 in seemly wise she greeted noble men lo now we will make trial of the thing so she has the

01:44:18.420 understanding of noble speech and she conducts herself in a noble way and he's like we're gonna

01:44:23.240 we're gonna sort this out because i think something's going on so on a time as men sat

01:44:29.620 at at the drink the king sat down to talk with the women and said in what wise do ye note the

01:44:37.440 wearing of the hours when as night grows old if ye may not see the lights of heaven

01:44:45.460 then the bond woman this sign have i that when as in my youth i was want to drink much in the dawn

01:44:57.400 so now when i no longer use that manner i am yet want to wake up at the very same tide

01:45:05.260 And by that token, do I know thereof? So he's starting to question her. And one of the things he questions her about is that she wakes up exceedingly early, as if she has been very used to being tasked with chores.

01:45:27.840 and um she says no no no i uh when i was young i i would i would drink so far into the morning that

01:45:36.800 i was just used to to keep going for the day and now i don't drink but i wake up early and

01:45:46.000 do things because i've grown accustomed to the manner the king laughed and said ill manners

01:45:52.000 for a king's daughter and therewith he turned to hordis and asked her even the same question

01:45:57.760 but she answered my father erst gave me a little gold ring of such nature that it groweth cold on

01:46:05.840 my finger in the day dawning and that is the sign that i have to know thereof so she has a uh a a

01:46:18.640 golden ring and in essence prefers to wear it when it is warmed by the sun so it's further on

01:46:28.400 in the day and this would be an understanding that a lot of the folks that owned land owned

01:46:35.040 the halls did not have to get up before dawn when it was cold and start getting things going

01:46:41.600 They had other people to do that, and so she's kind of confirming.

01:47:11.600 will I deal with thee for thou shall be my wife and do jointer will I pay thee when as thou hast

01:47:19.660 born me a child so one thing is she's not showing yet she's it was magical in the sense that Sigmund 0.74

01:47:31.340 said you are bearing our child take this sword and go the other thing is is King Alf says or Prince

01:47:39.500 alf um you know why weren't you honest me honest with me from the beginning because she mentions

01:47:45.500 the golden ring and he's like why would a bondmaid have a ring of gold um so i've he sorts her out

01:47:52.380 and says you know i know this is you're tricking me and they did this because they didn't know who

01:47:57.100 was coming up upon them and they were attempting to keep the queen alive so this is all turned

01:48:06.940 and he says you know you should have just told me from the beginning and i would have treated you

01:48:12.540 like royalty that you are uh as we are both the children of kings um but i shall not pay

01:48:20.540 for your deception in any bad way i will meet it with matrimony be my wife and be the mother of my

01:48:30.860 children uh therewith she spoke and told the whole truth about herself so there was she held in great

01:48:41.020 honor and deemed worthiest of women so now i mean on top of that she from king al's perspective one

01:48:49.260 he doesn't know that she's pregnant but more so um she comes from a line of great warriors

01:48:57.500 he just saw them on the battlefield and she tells him the whole story about who her father is and

01:49:04.620 who who her husband was and then you know fighting against uh limi who tried to take her hand

01:49:12.860 and uh it just didn't go well um so we enter chapter 13 on the birthing and the waxing of

01:49:24.460 sigurd fafnir's bane a couple of things one the waxing of course is the growing up the growing

01:49:35.100 larger of the young sigurd and i really think it's cool that they use fafnir bane

01:49:41.740 in translation it's the the foreshadowing is is really good there um

01:49:48.140 So the tale tells that Hjordas brought forth a man-child, a baby, who was straightly born before King Hjallprek, and then was the king glad thereof.

01:50:07.960 When he saw the keen eyes in the head of him, he said that few men would be equal to him or like unto him in any wise.

01:50:17.440 So he was sprinkled with water and had the name Sigurd.

01:50:25.500 So again, showing the Asavatni and the sprinkling of water is absolutely taken by Christianity and, you know, maintained because of its understanding.

01:50:42.440 For those that aren't familiar, the Asavatmi is literally the sprinkling of water.

01:50:51.100 We do baby namings in Ausatru.

01:50:54.260 It's one of the, I don't know, most special and beautiful things we get to do as Gothar.

01:51:03.800 And it's one of the kind of sacred rites of passage in Ausatru.

01:51:08.600 When a child is customary for them to be nine years old and deemed viable, to be brought before the folk and acknowledged and have their name fastened to them by this ritual, sprinkling them with water and proclaiming it amongst the people.

01:51:32.120 presenting this as a member of our family and us to the child as their family.

01:51:41.020 And when we do this in the Astro Folk Assembly, we pour out an offering

01:51:48.160 and we beseech the Nornir to bless the child with runes of inspiration

01:51:55.060 to guide them and set them on the right course in life.

01:51:58.960 and it's a really special ceremony if any of you have witnessed it or if any of you haven't I would

01:52:05.260 find yourself fortunate if you were able to

01:52:09.200 but yeah just as a kind of side note I know we have a lot in the audience that might not

01:52:15.420 be house true or might be new to house a true or not have experienced that yet so that is a

01:52:21.660 a thing that we do that's sacred to us and and here too with its origins being um

01:52:31.180 so far back the uh the argument of of whether um like baptismal and and i i think it's worth

01:52:39.900 noting that early christians their baptismal sense was actually done when they were older

01:52:46.620 when they were at age of conversion it wasn't done at birth that is a tradition

01:52:53.420 from before christianity in europe the anointing or the the um sprinkling of water um 0.72

01:53:05.580 is something that they they couldn't get rid of just like the trinity they they couldn't get rid

01:53:11.980 of it they had to add it in so we have a question that came up and it's directly relevant to the

01:53:18.460 aside that uh i just made so i suppose we'll address it it's never too late to do a baby naming

01:53:24.060 ceremony uh to bring the child into the tribe yes it's kind of silly and doesn't make sense when

01:53:33.420 it's not a baby anymore i think being a stickler that you do it at nine days

01:53:39.500 i wouldn't want to do it before then and this is um

01:53:47.420 part of the deeper lore of it isn't just assigning the name to the child but as will

01:53:56.780 just so happens we will also see in this story there is a magic that comes with a name

01:54:04.460 name. Naming something fully integrates it and makes it a fixed point in cosmic existence.

01:54:17.660 When you name, I'm trying to think of the best way to explain it because there's a lot

01:54:24.560 of different angles. The naming of something fully makes it have its own identity. At the

01:54:33.860 point of the ritual naming of the child their soul is integrated with all of its components

01:54:40.420 and specifically with those parts that are inherited

01:54:46.580 through its family and through the hymenia of the group it's accepted into

01:54:54.500 there are other things that can be done later to welcome somebody into the group

01:55:00.660 it's kind of silly and defeats the point at some point when someone has a you know a three-year-old

01:55:11.460 they want to do asovatmi too i think there are other more suitable ceremonies or a way to cater

01:55:18.000 something similar that's not the same because i don't want to be dishonest there's a point where

01:55:23.500 before the baby naming the child is incomplete after they've existed in the world shown that

01:55:30.040 their life is going to be sustained for a time they're fully imbued with their full personhood

01:55:38.680 as it were and you know if you've you know if you're 20 you've made your own way in life in

01:55:47.860 certain ways you've established who you are for us to do a baby naming for you would be kind of

01:55:53.480 kind of absurd so i think there's other things that we could do but the idea of ritually accepting

01:55:59.820 one into a group uh initiation is a a reasonable thing to do there's just other avenues for it at

01:56:07.580 that point well uh you mentioned as a follow-up perhaps under a year i would say yeah at most i

01:56:15.180 think that's probably the the smart way to do it we have some people that put off the ceremony until

01:56:22.540 an event at the hof or a national event or whatever they go out to so that a gothi can

01:56:29.500 perform the service perhaps you know again in one of our sacred spaces and some of that makes sense

01:56:38.380 um but yeah i wouldn't i think there's other things to do later on i wouldn't want to do that

01:56:45.260 over that year mark certainly but i think that's you know win is exactly how far is too far i think

01:56:52.300 is a little bit of a a judgment call on the the go-fi or on the parents or both do you have

01:56:59.740 thoughts on that's fun i was just gonna say and you had kind of lent into there are other things

01:57:04.620 that can be done um if it's say after the age of one but before the age of uh 12 13

01:57:14.540 um where where man making and woman making becomes uh a point of issue when that's going to happen

01:57:22.140 um there could be we just don't forget that the holy gods are here they are involved and a lot of

01:57:32.860 our proclamation is again a a point of piety an obligation to culture and tribal connection to

01:57:45.820 the gods so if you miss that a lot of folks are coming into our faith from a chasm if you miss

01:57:53.420 that and you reach out to the gothar and ask them or even if you don't have any goes or near you

01:58:00.220 you know performing it on your own is as simple as stating to the gods and to your ancestors that

01:58:09.260 you are moving forward now with trough to the gods and introduce your son or daughter let's say you

01:58:17.100 have an eight-year-old child and you want to hold the bloat and give thanks to the gods and to the

01:58:23.260 ancestors and tell them this is my child and uh we are moving forward what what that is the gods

01:58:31.340 know they know already but now you are verbally making a point of going forward from here um and

01:58:40.140 that has a great amount and if you're say you're even after your man making um maybe a young

01:58:46.780 teenager um the ability of professing this was something that was really big back in the 90s

01:58:54.300 but the professing of faith the going for like confirmation going forward and saying i will

01:59:00.380 follow the gods of my people and i will not be twisted and misaligned by all this you know

01:59:06.540 outlandish stuff and we will move forward from here and even at that point you know asking the

01:59:13.660 gods to protect your child or children um and introducing them and then also telling your

01:59:23.660 ancestors again they know but it's the deed the deed is obligation it's part of the gift

01:59:31.180 cycle and if you cannot give outside of yourself that's a huge part uh that that kind of gives

01:59:39.980 obfuscation to the connection to your ancestors and to the gods there needs to be an opening

01:59:46.700 movement towards uh establishing those connections and creating that relationship

01:59:53.820 yeah some of this is worth mentioning too

02:00:00.700 it would be absurd for us to suggest that a person is not a real person if they did

02:00:06.860 not go through a naming ceremony there's you know a great deal of us certainly myself included that

02:00:15.340 did not go through that ceremony as i found alsatru and came home to alsatru 19 or 20. so

02:00:27.340 don't be dismayed you still have full personhood but in a way and in a way that i think many of

02:00:34.780 us experience we're having to forge our own path in the wilderness to come home to our faith whereas

02:00:44.540 our children's generation doesn't have to do that they are born into this i've mentioned

02:00:51.980 many times on this one of the most amazing and beautiful blessings in my life is to

02:00:59.340 to welcome these children into our house to true folk assembly at a half to one of our gods to see

02:01:12.620 my daughter you know go through her naming until i i was the one who officiated her naming 0.90

02:01:20.700 to have her grow up playing in the uh the courtyards of our hoffs on holy ground

02:01:29.340 dedicated to our gods our children will never know a world that doesn't have

02:01:37.140 hosts to our gods in it because of the work that we are putting in that we have

02:01:45.480 put in and that those that came before us have put in and it's a really special

02:01:50.580 time so it's it's nice to be able to put that forth to the next generation for

02:02:03.240 them to be the first generation in a very very long time that from their

02:02:09.420 birth and their naming they've been integrated into our faith and into our

02:02:15.000 the community of our folk that's something that so many of us you know have not had for

02:02:22.440 hundreds of years and it's sort of it's a real special time in that regard

02:02:28.560 and we we need to gird our children and tell them that even though they are of this faith

02:02:37.860 from the moment they took breath there will be people coming in and until

02:02:44.300 folk and ausitru are synonymous they will always need to be these beacons to help guide other

02:02:53.760 people home and that's going to be a you know a hard thing but it's one step easier after 0.98

02:03:02.040 us who have come from the this great rift um now that there are people who are of this faith

02:03:10.380 uh from from birth their life their their being their their being folk and ausitry being synonymous

02:03:20.460 this is the way of their people my children view that this is the this is our way the way of our

02:03:26.920 people and other people have other ways and there are folk out there who have forgotten our way or

02:03:33.800 are completely devoted to foreign ways and you need to you know be careful when you meet them

02:03:41.720 but also be a beacon letting others know this is what it means to be true to the house and

02:03:49.640 And to the Al-Signor, so.

02:03:56.960 All right, well, Svahn, are you ready for the next chapter?

02:04:01.540 Yes.

02:04:02.160 So, the birth and the waxing of Siggers, Fafnir's Bane.

02:04:09.560 And it's worth noting here, Hjordis goes, so she's in Denmark by according to the story.

02:04:15.520 And it is, her husband is a prince. Her father-in-law is King Hjallprek.

02:04:29.240 So he's kind of brought in here because this is his domain. He is the king of this land.

02:04:38.000 and uh when so and then was the king glad thereof when he saw the keen eyes in the head of him

02:04:44.800 and he said that few men would be equal to him uh or like unto him in any wise so he sprinkled

02:04:52.160 with water and had had to name sigurd of whom all men speak with one speech and say that none was

02:05:01.360 ever like his like for growth and goodliness he was brought up in the house of king halpreck

02:05:09.040 in great love and honor and so it is that when so all the noblest men and greatest kings are

02:05:16.480 named in the oldest tales sigurd is ever put before them all for might and prowess for high

02:05:24.000 mind and stout heart wherewith he was far more abundantly gifted than any man in the northern

02:05:31.120 parts of the wide world so this is again volsung the volsung line um is shining through

02:05:42.880 so sigurd waxed in king hjalprek's house he grew up and there was no child but loved him

02:05:54.000 Through him was Hjordis betrothed to King Alf, and a jointure meted to her.

02:06:03.460 So, in essence, he's raised there, she marries King Alf, and their joining is measured out in the sense that her father is passed away, her kingdom is taken over by another.

02:06:22.860 but that doesn't matter and they are joined uh now sigurd's foster father was height

02:06:30.760 rayon it's spelled like regan uh r-e-g-i-n but it's actually pronounced rayon and um

02:06:42.080 it's interesting foster father he's a fosterling to this um this man

02:06:51.200 not in a marriage sense he's just given over to this man to be taught in all manner of arts

02:07:01.280 because he is a wise man as we'll find out um so he's given over as a fosterling

02:07:07.340 to rayon the son of rithmar he taught him all manner of arts chess play the lore of ruse

02:07:18.860 and talking of many tongues,

02:07:22.100 even as want was with the king's son in those days.

02:07:27.800 But on a day when they were together,

02:07:30.340 Rian asked Sigurd

02:07:32.400 if he knew how much wealth his father had owned

02:07:36.420 and who had the ward thereof,

02:07:40.500 who had a title to it.

02:07:43.420 Sigurd answered and said

02:07:44.940 that the kings kept the ward thereof.

02:07:48.860 Said Rayan, Dost thou trust them all utterly?

02:07:54.680 Sigurd said, It is seemly that they keep it till I may do somewhat therewith.

02:08:02.200 For better they want how to guard it than I do.

02:08:06.420 So he's asking him about his inheritance.

02:08:09.640 He's asking about what he's entitled to and who's controlling of it.

02:08:13.240 he he says you know my my um my mother's husband and his father have it and they will you know

02:08:22.680 bestow it upon me when i am of age so he's very very upright very very straightforward and

02:08:30.600 the tone for ryan even though he is a wise man he's a cunning man and that's already being

02:08:37.000 established as he's trying to see where things are um

02:08:47.560 so another time rayon comes to talk to sigurd and he says a marvelous thing truly that thou must

02:08:55.160 needs a horse boy to the kings and go about the like a running knave so you know he's like

02:09:03.880 Like it's amazing that you don't have a horse by now

02:09:08.060 and you are running around like a servant or a knave.

02:09:14.300 Nay, said Sigurd, it is not so

02:09:16.400 for in all things I have my will

02:09:18.420 and what so thing I desire is granted to me with goodwill.

02:09:23.680 Well then, said Regan, ask for a horse.

02:09:27.940 I, poth Sigurd, and that I shall have

02:09:31.500 when so i have need thereof thereafter sigurd went to the king and the king said what wilt

02:09:39.340 thou have of us and then sigurd said i would even a horse of thee for my disport

02:09:47.180 then said the king choose for thyself a horse and what so thing else thou desirest among

02:09:54.220 my matters so what's happening here is rayon is starting to create a pattern of influence

02:10:03.580 and he starts right away with intention of being able to lead the willful sigurd in directions he

02:10:12.780 wants um he he brings it up and sigurd says no i don't need a horse i i can have whatever i want

02:10:19.500 whenever i want it's not a matter but then he's like so he goes and he asks for a horse

02:10:26.860 and of course he's right he's he's given it um

02:10:33.100 so the next day went sigurd to the wood and met on the way there an old man long bearded that he

02:10:41.900 knew not who asked him with her way sigurd said i am minded to choose me a horse come thou and

02:10:51.020 counsel me thereon so the old man asks him where are you off to and he says i'm going to get a horse

02:10:57.660 and you should come with me well then he said go we and drive them to the river which is called

02:11:05.420 they did so and drove the horses down into the deeps of the river and all swam swam back to land

02:11:15.140 but one horse and that horse sigurd chose for himself gray he was of hue and young in years

02:11:23.040 great of growth and fair to look on nor had any man yet crossed his back so they drove them to the

02:11:30.300 to the river and all of them crossed the river out of fear but one remained and it was kind of

02:11:37.060 like this process a divinatory process um and then spoke graybeard from sleipnir's kin

02:11:46.620 remember sleipnir is uh lord odin's horse and sleipnir means the slipping one the one that can

02:11:54.720 slip between the worlds. He says this horse is of his kin and must be nourished heedfully for it

02:12:04.420 will be the best of all horses and therewithal he disappeared. So Sigurd called the horse Grani

02:12:13.460 the best of all horses of the world nor was the man he met other than Odin himself.

02:12:20.900 Now yet again spake Rayan to Sigurd and said, you don't have enough wealth, and I grieve. It's sad to look on that thou must needs run here and there like the son of a charl, but I can tell thee where there is much wealth for winning and great name and honor to be one in getting it.

02:12:47.540 sigurd asked where this might be and who had watch or ward over it and rayon said

02:12:55.140 fafnir fafnir is the warden's name and but a little way hence he lies on the wastes of nita's

02:13:05.020 heath so he out in the moors out in the desolate lands but not terribly far away and then and when

02:13:13.180 thou comest there thou mayest well say that thou hast never seen more gold heaped together in one

02:13:22.860 place and that none might desire more treasure though he were the most ancient and famed of all

02:13:29.740 kings so even immortal kings of old would never have seen so much wealth but sigurd looks at him

02:13:37.740 says i am young yet know i the fashion of this worm and how that none durst go against him so

02:13:49.740 huge and evil as he is so right away the establishment is that singer knows that

02:13:55.500 fafnir the warden of the gold is a is a dragon a worm a lingworm any of that sense is again uh

02:14:05.980 a serpentining beast and in uh the nordic stories the dragons um don't seem to be capable of flight

02:14:16.380 they are often depicted as being long and serpentine with legs that either barely hold

02:14:23.180 them up off the ground or kind of just help them as they twist and and turn through the land um

02:14:29.900 um reagan says nay it is not so the fashion and the growth of him is even as other lingworms

02:14:39.500 and over great tale men make of it and even so with thy forefathers have deemed but thou thou

02:14:48.080 be of the kin of the volsums shalt scarce have the heart and the mind of those who are told of

02:14:55.100 as first in all deeds of fame so he's saying no he's not as big and as terrible as people stay 0.92

02:15:01.260 it's just that they are a weak of hearts but volsungs aren't weak of hearts you would know

02:15:06.300 you would stand and sigurd says i be like i have little of their of their hardihood and prowess

02:15:15.180 but thou hast not to do to lay a coward's name upon me when i am scarce out of my childish years

02:15:22.700 Why dost thou egg me on here, too, so busily?

02:15:28.360 So, again, he's searching, he's looking, he's realizing what Rayan is doing.

02:15:38.660 And Rayan says, therein lies a tale which I must needs tell thee.

02:15:44.680 Let me hear this the same, said Sigurd.

02:15:48.060 And we move into chapter 14, the tale of Reyn and his brothers, and the gold of Andvari, the dwarf.

02:16:07.640 The tale begins, said Reyn,

02:16:12.640 Hridmar was my father's name, a mighty man and very wealthy.

02:16:18.060 And his first son was named Fafnir.

02:16:21.980 He had a second son, Otter.

02:16:25.200 And I was the third and the least of them all for prowess and good conditions.

02:16:32.140 So in essence, he says the least of drive and will, which I think, again, it's a misnomer.

02:16:39.320 He's purposely trying to downplay himself.

02:16:43.680 And he upplays his father and his two brothers.

02:16:48.060 um but i was cunning to work in iron silver and gold whereof i could make matters that availed

02:16:57.780 somewhat other skill my brother otter followed and had another nature with all from he was a

02:17:06.420 great from for he was a great fisherman and above other men herein in that he had the likeness of

02:17:13.840 an otter by day and dwelt in the river and bear fish to the bank in his mouth this is again another

02:17:21.380 connection to the otter skin um the selkies of ireland um we can see a cross connection here

02:17:32.240 um he's saying you know i didn't have much in the way of of uh ambition but i was crafty with

02:17:41.740 with iron and with gold and with uh being a smith but my brother he was a fisherman but like unlike

02:17:49.020 anything you've ever heard he could take the shape of an otter by day and go in and catch the fish

02:17:55.200 himself and then at night he would turn back to his shape as a man uh yes so and his prey

02:18:06.120 that he fished from the uh with his mouth and brought back to the bank his prey would be ever

02:18:13.100 to bring to our father and that availed him much for the the most part he kept him in his otter

02:18:20.500 gear so in his otter skin and then he would come home and eat alone and slumbering for on the dry

02:18:28.860 land he might see not so he wasn't as comfortable uh he was growing used to his otter skin and and

02:18:37.740 so he when he comes out and of course he's been fishing all day so he's tired

02:18:42.060 but fafnir was by far the greatest and the grimmest and would have all things about called his

02:18:52.140 so he was greedy um now says rayon there was a dwarf called on the body who ever bowed in that

02:19:05.660 force which was called on body's force now the translation here um is uh so the translation they

02:19:14.780 use in english as force but they're trying to link it to false in the icelandic word for a waterfall

02:19:23.740 so he's at the pool underneath a waterfall um and he uh let's see his name is anvari

02:19:35.580 whoever abode in a in a the falls which was called on varis falls and in the likeness of a pike

02:19:44.780 and got meat for himself for many fish there were in the in the falls now otter my brother

02:19:51.820 was ever want to enter into the the falls and bring fish a land and lay them one by one on the

02:19:58.940 bank and so it befell that odin loki and hyonur as they went their ways came to andvari's for

02:20:09.180 falls and otter had taken a salmon ate it slumbering upon the river bank there loki took a

02:20:17.900 stone and cast it at otter so that he that he gate his death that it killed him so he smotes him with

02:20:28.220 a rock and thereby the gods were well content with their prey and fell on flaying the otter

02:20:37.740 because they didn't know it was a man it was just a giant otter and they flayed him and took his skin

02:20:46.380 and in the evening they came to hridmar's house so they just saw him as prey they skin him they

02:20:55.500 take the skin and then they continue on and they find the house and it turns out to be

02:21:01.420 threedmar's house and ray of ray of mars house is the father of otter and they showed him

02:21:08.860 what they had found they saw this giant otter and they killed him and therein he laid hands

02:21:14.620 upon them and doomed them to such ransom as they should fill the otter skin with gold and cover it

02:21:23.340 over with red gold so that so they sent loki to gather the gold together for them so there's not

02:21:31.100 a lot of specification here about how he does this he takes them into bonds um he captures them

02:21:38.380 the gods are moving around the world as if they're mortals and he takes them for killing his son

02:21:47.100 and says you know i will kill you all if you do not cover the uh the skin of the otter with gold 0.78

02:21:56.460 in compensation for the loss of my son but it doesn't quite specify that here um that that's 0.98

02:22:03.980 so clarified and again it is about compensation for the loss of kin um and this is another

02:22:12.220 internal element of bringing in other things that come from the divine and i think that's

02:22:18.780 one to be made here that i think's worth saying i apologize didn't mean to cut you off is that

02:22:27.660 our gods are bound to the way stuff works and there's we see that a number of times as

02:22:42.860 you know in the course of the lore there are cultural things that are

02:22:51.740 attested to um you know when the gods make deals when they make agreements and they enter into uh

02:23:01.820 for lack of a better better term a social contract there are obligations that need be fulfilled for

02:23:10.140 for right things to happen in the universe.

02:23:14.940 I think that's important.

02:23:16.380 I think we see that here.

02:23:17.560 And I think we also see the gods aren't just doing this.

02:23:22.860 Loki's doing this.

02:23:24.980 Loki's like, ah, let's chuck a rock at this otter.

02:23:29.760 Why?

02:23:30.640 Because why not?

02:23:32.460 And then ill fate befalls them.

02:23:36.180 And I think that's interesting in and of itself.

02:23:38.640 random side note you guys who are watching on the video might have seen me chuckle because we see

02:23:45.600 here uh otter is you know he goes about he takes upon his like otter otter skin and becomes a giant

02:23:56.960 otter as fawn said and it just as a random aside reminds me of one time my wife when we were in

02:24:03.040 florida she mentioned she came home and there was this possum in the yard and she likened him he was

02:24:10.000 so big it was a man in a possum suit and i just found that a little bit humorous um

02:24:19.520 we are getting into the meat of the story here in a really big way and we'll see we got about

02:24:26.880 40 more minutes worth of reading story and then we'll finish off of questions but i think we'll

02:24:33.440 get to a pretty good place tonight as far as that goes but i'm there we go there he is sorry yeah

02:24:42.240 i did run to the restroom real fast see how it is um demand use of catheters on victory never sleeps

02:24:52.960 and get the the old lore bucket um the uh yeah i think too as you were speaking about this about

02:25:02.320 their um manifesting into the laws of places i i really think i mean this for the audience too

02:25:15.360 was giving origin divine origin or perhaps divine tragedy loki's hand is involved in the origin of

02:25:25.280 something that will befall the volsungs and i think that was a that key component there um

02:25:34.080 they had to establish that and it and it's i want to throw out something else here and this might 0.96

02:25:39.920 be a bit of an overextension but i'ma own it and say it's good advice regardless don't do stupid

02:25:47.920 things like how do i want to say that um be intentional you know our law speaker is noted 0.89

02:26:03.600 for his persistent reminders to be intentional with our speech we should be very intentional

02:26:10.800 with our actions too and how we interact with the world around us

02:26:18.240 casual disregard for others or casual disregard for life i think we see time and again in our lord

02:26:24.880 Or, you know, some vagrant wanderer looking for a kindness might well turn out to be the Allfather in disguise.

02:26:37.720 You know, an otter that's just trying to go about his life doing otter stuff and, no, let's chuck a rock at his head.

02:26:48.420 Maybe we shouldn't do that because there's some consequences.

02:26:51.160 And I doubt that if you throw rocks at otters, that you're going to need to cover their pelt with gold. But realistically and very seriously, don't just be wantonly destructive and needlessly churlish.

02:27:13.060 there's no cause for it extending nobility to the other creatures that share midgarb with us and you

02:27:21.620 can apply that to a wide variety of earth fauna um treating other level living things with nobility

02:27:36.500 and kindness goes well for you if you choose to kill stuff because you need a hide or because

02:27:47.940 you need meat or because you have found the foe fine by all means that makes sense

02:27:56.340 but just haphazardly oh look here's an otter let's chuck rocks at it and i don't mean to

02:28:02.740 make light of it but we see people all the time that are wantonly destructive oh you know there's

02:28:07.780 a stray dog or a stray cat let's be cruel to it um oh there's somebody that seems you know 0.99

02:28:15.540 retarded or homeless or cripple or somehow we think we're better than let's treat it poorly 0.93

02:28:24.020 this there's subtle reminders throughout our lore no act nobly and be intentional and if somebody 0.97

02:28:31.860 is your enemy then choose to have an enmity with it but if something isn't these are all living

02:28:39.460 things and we want to live in harmony with the world around us i am not the

02:28:47.140 there are currents within modern house are true that are very big on this as a nature religion

02:28:55.300 that is not my emphasis nor what i want to focus on but there's something to be said

02:29:04.680 you don't just needlessly wreak havoc upon the world around you without any clear intention or

02:29:13.400 any purpose we should be purposeful in all of our actions my father taught me

02:29:21.280 so anybody just joining this please be aware that i am prone especially when you know we're

02:29:30.640 a bottle of wine and then two and a half hours into the broadcast to take these stream of

02:29:36.100 consciousness journeys but i do think it's valuable my father taught me growing up i had

02:29:42.700 casually made my father taught me a lot about being intentional with speech and with other 0.97

02:29:49.020 things so i made some casual he asked me why i was doing something it was some stupid

02:29:55.580 childish thing i'm like well why not and he's like no stop no you need a reason to deviate

02:30:04.060 from your course you know the right way to act and things to do and if you want to deviate from

02:30:11.660 the course that you've set intentionally you need a good cause to do that the question is never why

02:30:19.820 not the question is always why is there a compelling reason to deviate from your course

02:30:29.740 and that's just i think that's an important stopping point for all of us to just like let's

02:30:34.460 pause, consider, integrate, make a plan, and then execute a plan. Often when we are not

02:30:46.360 willful in our intentions, we let others, we let the world, we let strange currents

02:30:55.640 that we don't even understand dictate our behavior. The Aryan man, the noble man, assesses

02:31:03.960 his situation and chooses action. He doesn't just react or go with the flow of the tumultuous

02:31:12.380 currents he finds himself in. He chooses a course based on his will and the things that

02:31:19.280 are meaningful to him. And he pursues that course for good or for ill. It's because it's his choice,

02:31:26.380 not because he is a subject to, you know, the whims of chaotic or random forces.

02:31:36.340 That is really important, and I think it's something to always consider,

02:31:41.400 and even if it's just a split second.

02:31:45.900 There's also been a current within Ausatru to denounce dogma,

02:31:54.020 And I think it's the metastasization of dogma that is the problem.

02:32:04.280 Having rules and having dogma isn't the issue, but it's when you don't stop and reconsider it.

02:32:10.200 Let it never be said that in Ausitru, it's a blind faith.

02:32:15.760 We don't want our faith to ever be blind.

02:32:17.720 We want our, the value in our faith comes in its intentionality.

02:32:24.920 Aousa true loyalty or troth to the Aesir is a conscious choosing to be loyal.

02:32:34.320 It's not a, you know, we're cattle that wear a brand of the Aousa upon us.

02:32:41.140 No, we choose to identify ourselves with our loyalty.

02:32:47.720 Our honor is our loyalty to the Aesir, and that is a willful choice that we make that defines who we are. 0.95

02:32:58.840 There's no heroism if you're just chattel that kind of goes where the herd goes. 0.96

02:33:05.280 the heroism the nobility comes and you're choosing to stand with people with gods with causes with

02:33:16.120 things that you truly believe in and that are expressions of your will and that seems like a

02:33:23.760 long journey from and then or then loki chucked a rock at the otter but i think it's valid

02:33:31.460 nonetheless and i would urge folks to you know consider that as we go through life or as we

02:33:36.420 wander around and we see the world around us well i took this this moment to look something up

02:33:47.780 because um i think it's kind of interesting to bring up a point about translations and things

02:33:53.380 of that nature um so here we there's a little bit unsaid in essence uh loki is told to go

02:34:06.340 to find this treasure and where it's at which happens to be

02:34:12.740 on body's treasure at his falls um one of the interesting things about the the the

02:34:20.740 The translation of Anvati, you know, I was, yeah, looking it up here, I just wanted to see like a base, because I have my own belief in the translation of him.

02:34:38.220 Yeah, it says here in Wikipedia, on body means the careful one.

02:34:44.900 But, see, I always translated it very differently.

02:34:49.740 I've translated it, and is the opposite of something.

02:34:55.020 So, it's kind of against.

02:34:56.740 It's like, un, that we use the prefix un.

02:35:03.460 So, it's like unbecoming.

02:35:05.320 It's not becoming, it's the opposite of.

02:35:07.260 It's unbecoming.

02:35:08.220 So, and is used in the same way. And vadi is like connected to the same way as wares or possessions, items, the selling of wares and goods. So, and vadi would mean, it's kind of a play. It's like having nothing. I own nothing. I have nothing of wealth.

02:35:33.220 i and also too i would give nothing so the name itself is kind of funny

02:35:40.580 since he is a protector of gold and what is your name i am the one who has nothing

02:35:48.260 because he doesn't want anyone to know that he has it and so the careful one i wonder if they're

02:35:54.820 trying to place that in he's careful of his horde but the translation that i would go with

02:36:04.260 is the one who owns or has no wares because he's attempting to put people off track that he

02:36:13.520 actually has gold so loki gets tasked with going to him and that's not really fully mentioned but

02:36:21.240 before he does that, they're in the middle. So he runs to the ocean and he goes there and he gets

02:36:29.560 Raun, the wife of Eir, the Jotuns who are under the dominion of the gods loosely and live in the 0.99

02:36:39.900 deep sea. He goes and gets her net. So this is also setting a point that he is such a wary 1.00

02:36:48.960 prey that you have to use Raun's net to catch him. So he gets her net and went therewith to

02:36:59.460 Anvari's pool under the falls and cast the net before the pike. So he's in the shape of a pike 1.00

02:37:07.920 fish and he throws it over and the pike runs into the net and was taken up. So he would not be taken

02:37:15.740 by any other means than by the most magical net that which is brown's net um the the snagger of 0.89

02:37:24.860 souls and uh he brings him up and he says what fish of all these fishes swim strong in the flood 0.65

02:37:34.540 but hath learnt little wit to beware thine head must thou buy from a from abiding in hell

02:37:43.580 and find me the one water's flame so here he says and the usage of the word h-e-l-l um but he

02:37:58.200 basically says you you must convince me not to kill you and send you on hell's road or to sell

02:38:05.940 you to send you into death because again remember hell is not only the presider of all things that 0.75

02:38:14.660 break life down and the holder of souls of of um the folk um through their process

02:38:25.300 he says and find me and this is a a kenning the one w-a-n is how it's spelled one waters flames

02:38:35.220 he's saying of the vanir the flames of the the vanir upon the water and that's why we often call

02:38:44.260 heim dollar the flame upon the waves he's born of nine um nine waves he and there's many

02:38:52.420 references to him being connected to gold so this is a kenning for gold but we can see again

02:39:00.260 the flame of the water is the pulling up of gold from the river or from the land uh

02:39:10.500 from the place in between which is the the pools and he says um he answers and he says and body

02:39:19.700 the the one of with nowhere's folk call me call owian my father over many a force have i fared

02:39:29.540 or many excuse me over a many a falls have i fared for a norn of ill luck this life

02:39:36.420 on me lay the wet ways ever to wade so he says he's cursed uh to live in this shape or to

02:39:47.620 need to live in this shape in the waters he's been cursed by a witch norn uh the word norn

02:39:54.660 just means which it's very synonymous with dsir um why the the norns are called aussadies

02:40:05.460 so again another one of those titles but he says that you know i i am uh the one without wares and

02:40:13.220 oyen is my father um but i have been cursed and must travel the waterways in this shape

02:40:21.860 um and he's kind of also fretting his state being locked in the net so loki beheld the gold of on

02:40:33.140 body and when he had given up the gold he had but one ring left and that also loki took from him

02:40:42.260 then the dwarf went into a hollow of the rocks and cried out that the gold ring i and all the

02:40:49.700 gold with all should be the bane of every man who own it thereafter so he he curses it uh and the

02:41:02.020 under the the part of this story that i i'm always kind of i don't i don't know is was it cursed

02:41:09.700 before and him being caught is just another part of the curse for him to lose it or did he willfully

02:41:21.060 curse it thereafter um i don't know but he speaks out and says all of it is cursed and any man who

02:41:30.820 owns it will be cursed and now the gods rode with the treasure to pride mark and fulfilled

02:41:38.740 the otter filled the otter skin and set it at his feet that they must cover it utterly with gold but

02:41:45.060 when there was they were done hridmar came forth and beheld that one of the muzzle hairs a whisker

02:41:52.900 the spot on the on the muzzle was open there was it was not completely covered and he was going to

02:42:00.020 kill them and this is also kind of poetic in the senses they do bring a large amount of gold but 0.99

02:42:06.340 but you didn't cover that, so now I'm going to kill you. 1.00

02:42:09.580 So he gets his revenge, and he gets a large sum of gold. 0.98

02:42:15.320 But then Odin drew the ring on Varys' loom from his hand

02:42:22.180 and covered up therewith, then sang Loki,

02:42:26.900 Gold-a-now, gold-a-now, a great were-guild thou hast,

02:42:31.720 that my head in good hap I may hold.

02:42:34.680 but thou and thy son are not fated to thrive the bane shall it be for you both

02:42:41.780 thereafter says rayon fafnir slewed his father by murder nor got i aught of the treasure and so

02:42:53.540 evil he grew that he fell to the ground lying abroad and begrudged any share in the wealth

02:43:00.860 by any man and so became the worst of all beasts a worm and ever now lies brooding upon his treasure

02:43:09.900 but for me i went to the king and became a master smith and thus is the tale told of how

02:43:17.920 i lost the heritage of my father and the were guild for my brother so spake ray and but since

02:43:27.260 the time gold that time gold is called otter guild and for no other cause than this so he that's a

02:43:37.340 again he drops in a poetic kenning that any poets listening to this poem and story could utilize

02:43:45.260 otter guild as a word for gold but sigurd answered much hast thou lost and exceedingly

02:43:53.740 evil have thy kinsmen been but now make a sword by thy craft such a sword as that none can be made

02:44:02.140 like unto it so that i may do great deeds therewith and if my heart avail there too and thou

02:44:09.740 wouldst have me slay this mighty dragon and the word they use there they even though they've been

02:44:17.340 using the they interchangeably word it they use the word director for dragon um so he says okay

02:44:26.780 well perhaps fate has led us on this road as you are a smith so take this sword of three pieces

02:44:35.100 and make it better than it has ever been and i will be a mighty hero and i will slay this

02:44:43.260 brother of yours and rayon says trust me well herein and with that same sword thou shalt slay

02:44:54.620 so a random side note i see bucket clinger says otters are in a gang usually

02:45:02.860 so in my experience and i am not a otterologist by any means but i will say that ocean otters

02:45:12.620 i see together often but river otters which i think you know we're dealing with here i don't

02:45:21.180 see in a in a grouping as often and one kind of just interesting point from my childhood growing

02:45:28.220 up uh folks that might not know i was born and raised in alaska and my uncle was a fish and game

02:45:36.460 or yeah it was a fish and game biologist and his son my cousin david is like the greatest outdoorsman

02:45:47.340 i could possibly imagine he is a guide in alaska right now and he since we were kids

02:45:57.500 was amazing at hunting and trapping and fishing and in high school this is the i'll get to the

02:46:05.820 point of connectivity here in a second but he was able to trap things that you know old timers and

02:46:15.660 folks that have been out of doing it for quite a while didn't have luck at the hardest animals to

02:46:22.780 trap in alaska i was told are like the wolf is the hardest and number two is either the fox

02:46:33.580 or the uh the river otter river otters were one of the hardest things to to trap they're canny

02:46:41.500 their river otters are very smart and difficult and it was i was on his trap line when he got

02:46:51.080 his uh his first river otter with him and he it was really something on a point of accomplishment

02:46:58.400 that he was able to get this otter because they are so so crafty and so hard to come by

02:47:04.480 but yeah i've often seen them very solitary in my well and here eurasian otter lutra lutra

02:47:11.360 otherwise known as the european otter it says right off the bat that they are extremely

02:47:16.880 territorial and live alone they are strongly territorial living alone for most part

02:47:23.840 an individual is quoting an otterologist what's that was you following on i've mentioned earlier

02:47:32.720 that i am not an otterologist but you you appear to be quoting an otterologist so we will lean into

02:47:39.680 his wisdom no yeah immediately i just want to go look it up real fast if there was some difference

02:47:45.280 because there's there's an american badger and a european badger there's an american wolverine

02:47:50.880 and all right a north american wolverine and a northern eurasian because we're playing this game

02:48:02.160 it is really interesting because there's a number of differences between european animals and american

02:48:10.400 animals i have no idea as far as the otters go but something that was a point of interest when i was in

02:48:18.480 sweden is uh algar means elk like you and i would think of an elk but it also means what the

02:48:28.560 europeans would call a moose so me and this swede gotten this like wasn't really heated but we got

02:48:36.560 in like a decent argument about what a moose was and to them the words not different between an

02:48:46.240 elk and a moose even though those of us in uh north america see a very big difference between

02:48:54.480 an elk and a moose so it's just kind of a point of interest as it were

02:49:03.680 well i want so we are i think we've made good progress tonight again there's a lot to this

02:49:09.280 story it's really good it's really important and we'll take as long as we need to but i would like

02:49:14.640 us to read through this next uh what is it 15 um because it makes something that i really want to

02:49:23.120 build on and i think it's a really important part of the story so i'd like to have swan go through

02:49:30.800 chapter 15 and then we will come at your uh at your questions and do our best to answer those

02:49:38.000 so chapter 15 is called the welding together of the shards of the sword grom

02:49:45.840 so rayon makes a sword and gives it to sigurd's hands he took the sword and said behold thy

02:49:54.560 smithying rain and therewith he smote it into the anvil and the sword broke so he cast down

02:50:02.860 the sword and bade him forge it better then ray and forged another sword now this is the same

02:50:10.380 sword he's just welding it back together as as being said and brought it to sigurd who looked

02:50:17.180 thereon then said ray and we like thou art well content therewith hard master thou though thou

02:50:25.900 be in smithy so sigurd proved the sword again and broke it as the first so he this is the second 0.95

02:50:34.140 time he goes and he cuts it into an anvil and it snaps i thou art may happen a traitor and a liar

02:50:42.220 like to those of your former kin of thine so he's so plot point he's not he's not welding together

02:50:49.820 a sword at this point he's forging swords afresh right of of the old sword no

02:50:57.900 he's about to oh oh i thought he gave him already because he spoke of

02:51:03.900 of that's kind of the point is that these ones are of inferior quality

02:51:08.860 so he has to go to the broken one

02:51:13.260 okay all right so well and the other thing a note here is he's goading him he says are you 0.85

02:51:19.820 are you a liar? You said you were good at smithing, but are you cunning and tricky like 0.92

02:51:25.640 your kinfolk? So one of the amazing things about Sigurd is he is flipping the script on him. This 0.99

02:51:34.360 guy's conned him into like, oh, are you sure you can really have what you want? What if you ask for

02:51:39.940 a horse? Well, what about this thing? And he's playing him and now Sigurd's caught on. So he's

02:51:46.100 like what about you are you really a good smith you say you could but look this sword's flimsy

02:51:51.000 right what about this so it's it's kind of funny to watch the

02:51:56.080 the development and how quickly he learns

02:51:59.640 well he

02:52:04.140 he says to them or therewith he went to his mother and she welcomed him in seemly wise

02:52:13.780 and they talked and drank together and then sigur spoke have i heard a right that the king sigmund

02:52:19.820 gave thee a sword gram in two pieces true enough she said so yeah you are correct and i made

02:52:27.420 because of the previous part where he had it had alluded to him doing that and then you know the

02:52:35.160 i assumed the welding was more on his skill but no he gets the sword from his mother

02:52:42.820 so sigurd said deliver them into my hands for i would have them she said he looked like to win

02:52:51.680 great fame and gave him the sword therewith he went to rayon and bade him make a good sword

02:52:57.980 thereof of that blade as he best might rayon grew wroth thereat but went into the smithy with the

02:53:06.940 pieces of the sword thinking well meanwhile that sigur pushed his head far enough and now into the

02:53:13.460 matter of smithying so he takes this as an insult that his swords aren't good enough he has to take

02:53:19.960 a broken sword and make it just put it back together and he's wrathful at this um and that

02:53:30.660 it's another slight towards his abilities so he made a sword and as he bore it forth for the forge

02:53:37.540 it seemed to the smiths as though the fire burned along its edges thereof now he bade sigurd to take

02:53:45.660 the sword and he said he knew not how to make a sword if this one failed then sigurd smote into

02:53:53.220 the anvil and cleft it down to the stock thereof so he's he basically says if this doesn't work

02:54:02.980 i can't make anything better and he takes it and he cuts down into the anvil and it goes

02:54:09.420 all the way down into the stump when the metal uh is smote in twain cut in half and um

02:54:19.240 then he praised the sword very much and thereafter he went to the river with a lock of wool and

02:54:28.280 threw it up against the stream and it fell asunder when it met the sword then was sigurd glad and

02:54:35.740 went home so he took a uh a swath of wool and wet it uh this is i think very akin to

02:54:45.760 uh when we see in japanese um sword arts where they take like the bamboo and reed mats and wet

02:54:55.380 them to replicate but you know again hanging and having this kind of bendable thing having

02:55:03.940 the sword be able to cut not only through hard metal but through uh giving flesh as a replication

02:55:12.900 of flesh and he cut right through it and then he was happy reagan said rayon said now whereas i've

02:55:21.680 made the sword for thee be like thou wilt hold on to thy troth given will they'll go meet fathnir

02:55:30.480 so i've made you this sword and you promised you would uh go after my brother will you still

02:55:39.680 maintain to your trough, to your, to your oath. Surely will I hold thereto, said Sigur, yet first

02:55:48.380 must I avenge my father. Now Sigur, the older he grew, the more he grew in love of all men so that

02:55:57.060 every child loved him well. So he becomes a hero of Denmark. He becomes a hero of the, of the,

02:56:03.320 uh of his uh step or excuse me his father his grandfather step his his adopted grandfather

02:56:17.360 I guess would be the word for it and he becomes a renowned hero there before he even steps off

02:56:26.660 to face against fafnir so a couple of interesting points as we come to a closer

02:56:34.740 with our reading for this evening um

02:56:37.420 i always thought that the wool thing was he threw it into the river and let the current

02:56:46.420 carry it against the blade and just the current and the weight of the wool it cut

02:56:54.460 so he tested the sword's strength it could cleave an anvil right and still maintain its sharpness

02:57:03.820 to cut through you know wool with just the gravity of of the current to uh to force it onto the blade

02:57:13.960 um and I think that you know Sigurd's cunning here because this con man is trying to trick him

02:57:26.520 into doing his bidding and doing all of these things and whatever and Sigurd gets wise to it

02:57:33.400 and he's like no I'm gonna have I'm gonna trick this dude into making me a sword and working my

02:57:40.240 will and then i'll get around to you know fulfilling my part but i'm not going to be

02:57:46.080 conned if this guy's going to do stuff i'm going to trick him into you know either one of those

02:57:50.880 swords might have been good enough to kill fafner but was it what he needed and uh that's part of

02:57:58.000 that wisdom of konunga of you know that highest evolution of our folk and nobility learning the

02:58:09.120 runes learning the wisdom of the court learning the knightly skills and learning the cunning of

02:58:16.080 okay i see through this guy's thing i'm going to turn it to my will

02:58:23.200 and i think that's really important i'm curious that there is a extensive conversations at odin's

02:58:30.160 off over the otter question and varieties of otter i will point this out my wife is forever

02:58:38.400 traumatized by otters so when they come up on my reel i send them to her and chuckle

02:58:43.840 at her dismay i don't know about you know white people otters but charlie otters the the vietnamese 0.55

02:58:53.680 otters are nasty so charlie's got these otters that bite pigs on the face and hang off of their

02:59:03.520 face we went to the jacksonville zoo and there was these vietnamese uh warthogs and they were

02:59:11.520 also there with these southeast asian otters in the same they like shared an enclosure

02:59:17.680 and one of those otters bit this pig on the side of the face on like his eyelid and was just

02:59:23.600 dangling off the side of this pig's face as the pig was running through his enclosure just squealing

02:59:29.280 and it was traumatic and my wife is still traumatized by this uh this otter's

02:59:37.040 vicious report of this hog so there you have it don't don't trust charlie and his otters

02:59:47.840 well and i was thinking too the mentioning of the wool um i wonder if there was maybe kind of a

02:59:56.960 an understanding of taking a swath or a coiling of rule and being able to cut it was a sense of

03:00:03.280 sharpness especially with it being wet but he just lays it in the river and it's so sharp that when

03:00:09.600 it slides over it cuts it so i think you i mean you mentioned that and you mentioned the japanese

03:00:15.200 connection that's something that i've heard about um katanas is that is you know letting like a

03:00:23.280 piece of silk and they'll just sever it or you know i've heard about that in water i've heard

03:00:29.360 about that of letting one just fall on it um either way uh dram is both

03:00:40.240 uh godly in its strength and in its sharpness and um before we we move on past it we'll get

03:00:50.240 y'all's questions here in a minute there is something here that i have always at least internally

03:01:04.240 likened our faith to in a way

03:01:11.520 the the trough to the iser was broken by our ancestors so long ago

03:01:20.240 And that very precious and holy thing was broken, but through divine will and, you know, providence, the pieces were kept.

03:01:36.800 And in our day, or in our Father's day, those pieces were gathered up.

03:01:46.720 They were reforged for greater purpose.

03:01:52.400 The trough to our gods was forged anew in the time of our founder, Stephen McNallan.

03:01:58.820 And at, again, the intercession of the All-Father, that which was once broken was welded back together for might and for purpose, and we're part of that purpose today, and we are custodians of that blade.

03:02:20.220 And that's always been a deep inspiration to me and something that has always leapt out to me about this story and something I think is fundamental in our ordination as Gothar and in the AstroFolk Assembly's position in the world.

03:02:44.700 So with that, I've got a couple of questions from email.

03:02:50.220 The first one, hey there, question for you this week, does the AFA encourage its member

03:03:00.040 to engage in proselytizing, or do you typically wait for eligible people to find their way

03:03:06.540 to you, once they're already aware of the AFA?

03:03:10.500 If the AFA does encourage actively spreading the word, excuse me, any tips on how members

03:03:19.240 can do it most effectively. Thank you for the weekly show. First, you are very welcome. I'm

03:03:25.480 glad that you're listening, and I'm also glad that you're asking questions. Svon, do you have

03:03:30.220 any response for Tilever as Nick has brought it to us? I'm not sure if that's the original email

03:03:37.480 or just what, but yeah, do you have any thoughts on this question? Absolutely. I think

03:03:43.480 proselytizing and conversion the origin of that word ultimately comes even before christianity

03:03:55.160 in the hellenic area or um time frame in which a lot of different cults and churches of the

03:04:03.720 gods and different focuses were attempting to you know bring people into what they were doing

03:04:10.360 um i i think that it certainly has become a negative term especially amongst those of us

03:04:21.760 who are also through and come from christianity but as you said we don't need to define ourselves

03:04:27.060 by what we are not um it's just the same as the word like propaganda americans hear the word

03:04:33.260 propaganda they immediately and they throw that word around to weaponize but it comes from the

03:04:39.220 word propagation to propagate something and to grow it so really that attempt is it becomes soured

03:04:51.660 when you look at it from where it's coming from in the outlandish faith that is literally outland

03:04:59.260 of us um christianity or any of the the middle eastern religions is their attempt is to to do

03:05:07.180 this for various reasons and mostly it's really to ascertain power over they do it subtly or they

03:05:15.740 do it overtly you can choose whichever religion you figure uses the method but let's just look

03:05:22.180 at christianity in itself that it comes in with i need to save souls because my god is going to

03:05:29.780 punish people um that that don't accept him um and then it turns into you know come to the church

03:05:39.000 and uh we will you know make these edicts that really if you know if you look deep enough kind

03:05:47.560 of are against even the european that the uh the arian mindset but no don't look too deep so it's

03:05:56.640 it's about that kind of buffering in with fear. There's that caveat. We are not coming at anyone

03:06:02.160 and saying you need to be Ausatru or the gods are going to punish you. No, the gods have seen

03:06:09.500 us go through the ups and downs, the rise and falls, the battles between each other.

03:06:16.440 they decided when to return. But we can try to be a beacon by deed and by voice for the gods and

03:06:28.660 encourage our folk to come home because ultimately the idea is to synthesize folk with

03:06:35.960 Auseter. And we can argue about the details of Hellenic and Slavic and Celtic and Germanic

03:06:44.080 and what have you all all we you know all you want to the blue in the face but the reality is

03:06:51.100 is that those people no matter what branch they are the gods are the gods they have been the gods

03:06:57.600 they are culturally different in each of those branches but we um are the one prevailing in

03:07:07.580 especially in this land we we are a germanic country we speak a germanic language the others

03:07:14.540 had their cultures have different issues um so that aside honoring the gods of the aryan people

03:07:24.540 through the germanic lens i i encourage people to kind of understand the case of this um but

03:07:33.100 But we need to at least tell their folk that they have an option, that they have a world that they can live in where they are integrated with the spirituality and not severed from it.

03:07:46.460 they are connected to the divine and the the it's it needs to be a key balance

03:07:53.060 Christianity has become so obscure it's left away from its origins of of um the god of the

03:08:00.580 Israelites or the god of the Jews to uh even now the Christians are like well now we're the Jews

03:08:06.220 but at the end of the day it becomes an obscure kind of divinity that has no face 0.95

03:08:15.580 And if it goes to other countries, they do it anyways. 0.95

03:08:20.640 You go to Korea, you see Korean Jesus. 0.94

03:08:23.000 You go to Japan, you see Japanese Jesus. 1.00

03:08:26.600 Korean Jesus is the one that's super slow, right? 1.00

03:08:29.840 Yes. 1.00

03:08:31.000 I mean, good on them.

03:08:33.660 But again, that's another implication of the way that they are trying to connect both with what they want and how they see themselves.

03:08:42.440 and you cannot make religion it's like socialism it's like communism you can't make our connection

03:08:51.840 to the divine there's one gray me it's one gray me jesus can whoop up on al sharpton black jesus

03:09:01.340 yeah i mean and it's like la riots all over again okay so at random a gentleman who i first got

03:09:10.800 involved in outstreet with uh he'd moved up to wasilla alaska and he had kind of come up as a

03:09:20.800 as a skinhead in jacksonville florida and one of his good skinhead buddies for whatever reason

03:09:28.480 was an avid collector of black jesus like he needed all the velvet like paintings of black jesus

03:09:37.280 and the prize ones were the ones with the quote-unquote al sharpton hair like the flowy

03:09:44.320 like helmet you know yeah like they i you are a barber i don't know how you get um

03:09:53.200 oh chocolatey hair to they actually have age from its

03:09:59.920 willingness to put a chemical in it that removes genetic material

03:10:03.600 so that it lays that way so he had a had the like camp al sharpton treatment with it

03:10:10.980 um but that was the preferred version of black jesus that uh that he collected

03:10:19.640 um if you're going to go with a version of jesus uh korean like super swole jesus is a

03:10:30.980 an awesome depiction um where his abs have ads i've also seen the depiction on some t-shirts

03:10:42.020 at the gym of jesus being super swole because he's like carrying around the crucifixion cross

03:10:48.980 almost like conan if when he's pushing the the like mill wheel or whatever he gets like super

03:10:56.500 bodybuilding mr olympia level physique from pushing this wheel um apparently jesus from

03:11:03.700 carrying the weight of the cross and the associated sins of mankind has become swole

03:11:10.500 so um take that for what you will i think that's interesting artwork well yes the afa is a million

03:11:18.020 percent behind proselytizing being obnoxious no spreading the word and letting our folk know

03:11:28.500 not only that but that's always been part of our declaration of purpose of our of our mission

03:11:36.660 statement is to issue a call to bring the folk home that's literally the function of

03:11:44.340 the astro folk assembly since its inception is to guide the folk home and bring the folk home

03:11:52.260 we've got silly hang-ups with words we associate with religion that maybe as kids or in former

03:11:58.580 associations we didn't like it's time to be grown and get past those hang-ups on religion words

03:12:08.020 No, if you have something that you love, you want to tell other people about it and bring our folk home.

03:12:19.000 We don't ever want to be obnoxious, but I've mentioned this countless times on this program.

03:12:26.300 One of the biggest hurdles for our growth is that so many of our people just don't know this is an option.

03:12:34.420 I know that when I came home to Ausatru, I mean, I was, I'm sure there are people who are way smarter and way better read than I was, but I read deeply about religion.

03:12:53.100 I read deeply about history.

03:12:55.600 I had no idea that this existed in a serious way in modern times.

03:13:01.500 when I came home to Alistair True I thought I was the only oddball out here worshiping

03:13:08.780 Norse deities but I knew it was the right thing to do so I wanted to figure out how to do it

03:13:15.020 and I started you know doing the I say Google but at the time Yahoo or Alta Vista or whatever it was 0.99

03:13:23.540 and I found the Alistair True focus in me and it blew my mind I had no idea that there were

03:13:30.340 other serious people doing this so many of our people don't and i can't fault them for that i

03:13:36.500 was there it's very easy once you've been doing this for a decade or in spawn in my case for two

03:13:43.800 decades or more to think that these other people when they're taking those fledgling steps of

03:13:52.080 finding our faith or getting into it and being real viking larpy and like bruh you know

03:13:59.960 yo dog vikings and stuff it's really easy to look down on that or to

03:14:08.400 i don't know be disparaging but i think all of us were there at some point

03:14:13.700 wanting to foster a greater understanding and a growth of that is great but we all came from

03:14:22.600 somewhere and it's all been imperfect i mean i'm sitting you know swan and i are both sitting here

03:14:29.200 today trying to talk from a place of wisdom or a place of understanding i really hope that 20 years

03:14:36.560 from now he and i can talk to you with a greater understanding a more perfect relationship to our

03:14:46.000 gods and increased knowledge it doesn't mean what we're doing now isn't good but if we're doing it

03:14:52.800 right it'll be better in 20 years and all of us you know i never want that not to be the case

03:15:00.160 shoot if i'm lucky enough to be doing this with you 40 years from now i hope it's even better um

03:15:08.960 60 years from now i'm probably gonna have to do it earlier in the day because i'll probably be

03:15:13.360 going to sleep early uh but no we should always be advancing and spreading the word is important

03:15:21.600 that's the best thing and so you ask for advice that members could do to spread the word better

03:15:27.200 first and foremost wear your hammer wear it outside outside your shirt wear it everywhere

03:15:32.880 you go secondly and we all could do better at this i know i could when people ask you about it

03:15:42.880 as the meme says say the weird thing sorry alan that's the meme i didn't do it so

03:15:51.600 Be willing to have the conversation that seems uncomfortable or tedious.

03:15:59.660 It only needs, if you do it a hundred times, and 99 of those times somebody gives you a strange look and turns up their nose,

03:16:08.620 if just one time it works, that's a win.

03:16:15.080 Just one of those times, people are like, hey, nice Mjolnir.

03:16:21.600 hey, cool, thanks, anyway, but instead you stop and say, hey, thank you, I see you have one too,

03:16:30.240 you know, are you Ausitru, huh, what's that, oh, I'm part of the Ausitru Folk Assembly, and this

03:16:36.420 is my church, and there's a lot of us, and we get together, and we worship our gods, and this is my

03:16:41.520 religion, oh, wow, I never heard of that, cool, well, you know, if you're curious, at runestone.org,

03:16:49.300 you can learn you know kind of what we who we are and what we do and see if that's something

03:16:53.700 that's interesting to you would you like you know would you like to know more

03:16:59.780 that little conversation that can be the next hero of our folk that gets honored with a day

03:17:06.660 of remembrance that can be the next hero that leads us into the next age that does

03:17:12.900 great work for us and for our gods and you can be part of making that happen we should all get

03:17:20.320 better at doing that i know i could do it better i've seen our founder steve mcnellen do it

03:17:25.800 beautifully i've been i've traveled with him and been in the airport where somebody you know just

03:17:31.500 an offhanded comment and he stops and he has a conversation and i'm so envious of that so anything

03:17:39.640 you can do to live our faith and be an example and when somebody asks to with pride talk about

03:17:49.820 this talk about what you do um if you're listening to this show suggest somebody else might want to

03:17:58.280 listen to it too we say it and it sounds cheesy and it's the thing to do i guess if you're an

03:18:04.480 influencer or if you're whatever, but like, share and subscribe. Tell your friends and your family

03:18:11.800 and people that might just find this interesting because they may share it with somebody who wants

03:18:17.360 to actively pursue it. We had a gentleman, Father Jack Ashcraft, who's an Anglican priest who had

03:18:28.940 us on his program a couple of different times and was extremely respectful. People would listen to

03:18:34.360 that that were just interested in religion generally and found out about the astro focus

03:18:40.280 symbol you never know but going out there and being proud to tell folks who you are and where

03:18:45.480 you're from and what you do now you asked positively but i think it's worth saying just

03:18:51.560 for the audience we get stuck in our own heads with a preconception of negativity

03:18:59.800 because we live in a wolf age

03:19:02.520 and we're surrounded by a world

03:19:04.560 that would cast what we do in a negative light.

03:19:09.580 Don't succumb to that.

03:19:11.880 Be proud.

03:19:13.160 Be happy of what we're doing.

03:19:15.960 Be happy for who you are.

03:19:17.980 Be happy that you're out so true

03:19:19.620 and speak with that.

03:19:21.520 If people see the joy in your heart

03:19:25.220 and the pride that you have,

03:19:27.780 that's contagious.

03:19:29.320 and it cuts through preconceptions.

03:19:33.220 When people, you know,

03:19:35.100 if people were to get wind of us

03:19:37.380 and imagine us to be these, 0.56

03:19:39.500 you know, hateful, evil people,

03:19:42.560 something really special happens 0.70

03:19:45.280 when they meet you

03:19:46.280 and you're nice

03:19:47.420 and you guys get along well

03:19:49.000 and there's so much to bond over.

03:19:51.420 But wait,

03:19:52.920 these other people over here

03:19:54.560 said these guys were mean,

03:19:56.060 but they're not.

03:19:56.660 These guys are great.

03:19:58.220 These other people over here said these guys are evil devil worshipers, but no, they seem awesome.

03:20:03.920 These guys over here said they're hateful, but I talked to them and it's nothing but love for what they do.

03:20:09.660 That's real, and it forces our people to wake up.

03:20:14.180 Do that.

03:20:15.640 And the more of that that y'all do and that we do, the more of our brothers and sisters will be able to welcome home to trough with our gods.

03:20:24.520 and stronger we'll be going into the future.

03:20:29.760 So Taylor also asked by email,

03:20:32.020 again, if you want to ask a question at any point in time,

03:20:35.020 and I realize a lot of our listeners

03:20:36.440 might be listening to this as a podcast.

03:20:38.620 We come out on iHeartRadio, on Amazon Music,

03:20:43.240 on Apple Podcasts, and Spotify.

03:20:50.500 So if you listen to us there

03:20:51.700 and you're not catching it live, that's fine.

03:20:53.700 You can email a question to vns at runestone.org, and we will answer it the next time we're on.

03:21:00.760 Now, I may have a different guest that day.

03:21:02.680 It all kind of depends on the rotation, but our law speaker might have something cool to say.

03:21:07.860 Or Brandy and the ladies on our fifth of Brandy call, which is, that's coming up this month.

03:21:15.240 So every month that there is a fifth Wednesday, our Githyur will be on here doing a special episode for you guys.

03:21:25.780 I know it's nice to see a pretty face on here.

03:21:28.440 I think Swan and I are lovely, but some of you might be appealed to by a different audience.

03:21:35.400 Either way, it's neat to get them on and have them do their show.

03:21:40.900 And they do that every time there's a fifth Wednesday.

03:21:42.940 just so happens that is occurring this month. So yeah, but the next broadcast, somebody will

03:21:49.400 answer your question. So email those anytime you have them. This next one comes in from Taylor

03:21:54.520 via email. Hello, and thank you for taking my questions. You're very welcome. What is the

03:22:00.580 astral view of time? Is it linear, reaching an eventual final point for all of humanity,

03:22:06.940 and that's it, or is it cyclical, such as personal reincarnation or something like after Ragnarokker,

03:22:17.140 everything's starting again? And two, since the AFA is a forward-facing faith,

03:22:24.980 is it possible for new gods of the Aesir to be born or be discovered? If so, how and by whom?

03:22:34.360 uh thank you hail the icer hail the folk hail the afa uh

03:22:41.720 it's fun what are your thoughts on both of those things well one absolutely i believe in the

03:22:49.400 cyclical nature um we see it in our language the germanic language sets itself up to that which is

03:22:57.400 in the past that which comes from and descends from the well of urn that which is happening now

03:23:05.080 and then you cannot give a future tense without adding will i ran i'm running or i will you know

03:23:15.720 i run and then i will run but it ultimately means that that falls back to the source now

03:23:23.960 that could give a lineal patterning but it would be better to look at it

03:23:32.280 more as like cyclical return the deeds that are are committed bring out debt and that

03:23:39.960 debt is a return to the past it all becomes cyclical you have to move forward with will

03:23:47.640 but that becomes part of earth and then earth spurns that on so i think a lot of people do get

03:23:55.160 i could see how they could mistake it for that but elsewhere we also see everything being perennial

03:24:01.960 circular or i would even say spiraling there is this yeah okay i just i knew i was kind of

03:24:08.760 the spiraling time set in which the circle is moving at the same time it is going forward or

03:24:17.400 upward or directionally but that the perennial truth is consistently

03:24:25.160 worked over and over and over and over again in mythical time so

03:24:30.200 So this opens up a very different way that I think a lot of folks do not look at the

03:24:39.560 divine, do not look at the stories.

03:24:43.380 They do not see, they see them simply as perhaps academic research.

03:24:50.560 So then you can go and look up.

03:24:51.740 But the gods would be with us if all of that was burned, because it would happen again. The nature, our blood, our history, all of that. Their names may be different, but they would be amongst us. They would be with us.

03:25:11.080 and so it it's hard for people to understand it's like is balder gone uh is he uh beyond the veil

03:25:22.440 or has he risen and again it's it's in essence it's like it's yes yes it's yes and it's very

03:25:29.620 very hard to explain that because people need logos they need logic to explain and going from

03:25:38.560 point a to point b but mythic truth is perennial and it will preside over as things are turning

03:25:48.080 it's almost like having a light or a flame underneath the thing that is turning eventually

03:25:54.480 it will come back around and relight or reignite itself no matter what or which way things turn

03:26:02.800 all right so

03:26:06.880 a couple few things

03:26:11.440 it is amazing to me and still is so

03:26:19.940 the synchronicity of things that there seems to be a current and there starts being these points

03:26:29.180 of connectivity i had a call with a member yesterday who had some questions about this very

03:26:36.380 thing and okay so answer to answer your last question first because the first one is

03:26:47.820 requires a little bit more um is it possible for new gods to be born and or discovered

03:26:59.100 Yes.

03:27:02.860 By whom?

03:27:05.860 By those who sincerely open their selves and devote themselves to worship.

03:27:15.360 I realize that's way too simple of an answer.

03:27:18.280 That's more of a, you know, like we read in this work.

03:27:22.160 It gives you the title of the chapter as kind of a summation and then the meat of it.

03:27:27.500 So I'll say this. Far be it from me to limit the possibilities of the divine. That's not my job.

03:27:39.800 And if Odin can father a great many gods of our folk, it's not for me to suggest that he could not father more or others into the future.

03:27:59.600 And I think that's one thing when we talk about the, you know, like the big 12 I see here.

03:28:06.500 It's different when you talk about local spirits, local deities, like river goddesses, spirits of land and of place.

03:28:19.500 I think we see some of that.

03:28:21.100 as Svahn was saying, and I've said many times on here,

03:28:27.620 we are very blessed that we have a corpus of lore

03:28:30.980 to tell us names and stories of the gods

03:28:35.740 to help us have a head start in building a relationship with them.

03:28:41.400 But if our, you know, quintuple great-grandchildren

03:28:46.900 find themselves on the surface of Mars,

03:28:49.580 without that that we have our gods still exist they are the gods of the blood and bone

03:29:00.040 of our quintuple grandchildren and they would speak to them through their very folk soul

03:29:06.840 the stories that they develop the names that they call them by might be very different than

03:29:14.760 what we would recognize today at first glance, but those things exist and are eternal.

03:29:24.480 If there were new developments, new lore, new gods to be known, first, that would be

03:29:33.420 the providence of whoever those gods or the existing gods reveal themselves to.

03:29:39.720 they can use whatever criteria they would like to do that far be it for me to suggest what they can

03:29:49.460 and can't do i would think that the best probability for that would be someone who

03:29:57.020 is open in their heart and in their mind to receive that kind of information

03:30:02.700 and who devotes themselves to prayerful interaction, worship, and gift cycling with the Aesir.

03:30:13.260 I think a person whose heart and mind were inclined in that way would be the most receptive to those kind of things

03:30:23.120 and most likely to receive that. 0.96

03:30:26.360 But again, that's up to the Aesir.

03:30:29.920 uh as far as the the time question

03:30:36.880 so i was listening to spawn and i was going to be like well

03:30:41.640 it's a lot of a lot of that's okay but this thing until he mentioned the spiral

03:30:46.700 when we conceive of things two-dimensionally and we look at time cyclically as if it is a circle

03:30:57.700 i find that contrary to the airman spirit if we can't truly progress if everything is just doomed

03:31:07.080 to repeat itself there's no point in doing anything we might as well just give in to our

03:31:17.560 most bestial nature and you know just ride it out because golden age is coming again no matter what

03:31:25.000 we do so no that's not heroic our lore teaches us that if we push forward heroically there are

03:31:39.640 cyclical currents within time to where things ebb and they flow and there are currents that

03:31:47.800 we see again and again but we nudge that by moving it forward through our deeds and through

03:31:54.820 our will to spiral. We can either downwardly spiral towards entropy and chaos, or we can

03:32:02.880 upwardly spiral towards greatness and glory and greater achievements and greater destiny.

03:32:10.900 But we do see common things happen in cyclical ways again and again, and I don't want to

03:32:20.140 discount that um something i will say as far as you know the timeless nature of our gods now what

03:32:31.200 we've spoken on the show again many times i don't believe in one for one reincarnation as the

03:32:37.580 gentleman i think that that is a possible occurrence and i think that does occur in

03:32:43.680 very specific circumstances and with a very important intent to it.

03:32:49.300 But I think for most of us,

03:32:51.280 there are pieces of our soul that we can pass on as an inheritance to those

03:32:57.320 within our line.

03:32:58.740 But when it comes to the gods,

03:33:03.420 the reason that our Lord is displayed in the way that it is,

03:33:10.780 is because that's how our brains work.

03:33:13.680 more units our concept of time and the gods concept of time function very

03:33:22.080 differently it's a similar reason to why our gods look like Viking people doing

03:33:32.880 Viking stuff that was our lore encapsulated time where that's what made

03:33:39.680 sense to the audience and gave them greater understanding of the essence of

03:33:46.340 our gods I don't think that the best of us can comprehend in totality the

03:33:56.240 existence of the gods what we do best is relating to them genuinely through our

03:34:04.820 own experience and they grant us a certain amount of grace that we don't know what we don't know

03:34:14.820 so we're held accountable to the best of what we do know we try to extend to them the best and

03:34:22.740 the highest of what we know about what the greatest of people we could conceive is they

03:34:29.540 are more than that but they're at least that so that said

03:34:38.100 we relate to our gods at different stages different seasons of our life and different experiences

03:34:47.540 so to know balder as

03:34:50.180 as the child with a gleaming hope of the future for Odin and for Frigg

03:34:59.960 is one way of knowing him and perceiving him and understanding him.

03:35:05.100 To know him as the shining prince, the most beautiful and bravest of all the gods

03:35:11.120 is another way to know him and to appreciate him,

03:35:15.800 riding upon, you know, bloody hoof

03:35:18.660 to understand these things

03:35:20.220 lets us see him in one way.

03:35:24.960 To understand him as

03:35:27.440 the God that through cosmic betrayal

03:35:31.160 is laid low and lives in the realm

03:35:34.620 of the underworld and of the dead

03:35:36.880 is another way of understanding and relating

03:35:40.460 to Bright Balder.

03:35:42.200 and then to understand him as renewed and returning to Asgard there after Ragnarok

03:35:49.700 is still another way to relate to Baldr all of these at different points in our life and

03:35:57.240 different experiences he is each of those things and he is the totality of all those things

03:36:05.420 and at different phases in our experience different elements of that will ring true to us

03:36:15.580 if you look at you know it's hard to encapsulate eternal deity

03:36:21.980 within the confines of the hundred year lifespan that the luckiest among us might know

03:36:29.180 many of us are known really differently to different people in our lives due to our

03:36:41.180 different relationships and different time you know my mom knew me as her son as the baby boy

03:36:49.640 she watched grow up and she helped raise and taught things that's absolutely true and honest

03:36:56.720 my daughter knows me as her father who protects her and teaches her stuff and is strong and

03:37:04.040 chases the monsters out of her closet and whatever else that's true that's honest

03:37:10.720 my wife knows me as the you know

03:37:16.820 goofy dude sitting around in his pajama pants in his recliner doing whatever he's doing and 0.98

03:37:24.760 singing along to ridiculous things on the radio scream singing to the heart 0.98

03:37:32.600 that's honest too it's just a side of myself that i show my wife and people who are very 0.90

03:37:37.640 close to me and intimate to me some of you might know me as the presenter of the show or as the

03:37:43.160 else here you go through the astro focus on me that's also honest and true people who've stood

03:37:49.160 with me and fought samoans and random you know thuggery in the bar as a bouncer know me in a

03:37:57.160 really different way all of those are honest all of those are me different of those have a different

03:38:04.520 meaning and a different relevance to those i've had different relationships with if that's the

03:38:11.320 case for you know a regular a mortal man certainly it's more so the case for our eternal gods

03:38:21.480 and we're never going to have the perfect answer to it

03:38:25.400 but the more we grow in our understanding i think the more we we digest that reality

03:38:30.280 what else so the next one i recently became as from wise final solution i recently became aware

03:38:42.760 of painters from the 1800s and the early 1900s that depict the norse gods and figures in noble

03:38:50.280 lights uh arthur rackham uh carl emile doppler and robert e howard sword uh swords of the north

03:39:02.520 marchers of valhalla any recommendations of artworks like fantasy or paintings or sculptures

03:39:10.600 of the icer or general figures of the roar etc it's fun do you have thoughts on that yeah i um

03:39:20.280 you know coming i was inspired growing up i was uh i was brought into a lutheran home and when

03:39:30.840 we came here to america i went to a bunch of different religious groups one of the other

03:39:35.000 things that i was kind of i was searching but as a game just for fun growing up in the late 80s

03:39:44.360 it came to me a sword and sorcery robert e howard dungeons and dragons all of these things these

03:39:51.400 little nuggets coming in and just really igniting something in me that there was not that was not

03:39:59.800 happening elsewhere i felt like a foreigner in a foreign faith in the the houses of yahweh the

03:40:07.880 synagogue of yahweh and i was getting these inspirations for heroism and and all of that

03:40:17.000 from from fantasy art and so uh a lot of the first things that came to my head when i saw this

03:40:23.560 question was like um ed greenwood and a lot of the guys from fantasy art but um another thing that i

03:40:32.440 being one who gets the pleasure of drawing the gods as representations for our church

03:40:42.040 um i looked into massive amounts just in the same area that you're in one of uh so i wrote down some

03:40:50.040 some names i was writing them down while you were speaking because i just didn't want to mess them

03:40:54.540 up but anybody like laurence frolic laurence frolic was truly an interesting artist because

03:41:02.940 he did not draw the holy gods in clothing like they they usually wore a sash of of a swath of

03:41:14.620 clothing which harkens to classic hellenic or at least the perception of classic hellenic um

03:41:21.900 things but i think the reason why he did it is one to show the might and the strength of the body

03:41:29.640 that uh you see thor as this you know strong and very masculine powerful but he's not confined by

03:41:38.480 history he's not confined by technology or any sense of that in actuality he's just broken down

03:41:44.800 into a swath of clothing um but it also removes a lot and takes the gods into perhaps a different

03:41:54.540 way of thinking art really does that i've done this with uh how would i embody the the gods in

03:42:02.520 a symbol we've we already do this with lord thor with the thor's hammer what would we do for lord

03:42:08.340 then what would we do for lord fray and i've i've messed around with a lot of that so his take on

03:42:14.900 that i think is ultimately to make the gods more broad and when people kind of get snarky their

03:42:23.300 internet they're like oh you know germanic gods they're not the they're not roman gods they're not

03:42:29.140 uh greek gods but it's like no these are the gods of the of the folk the arian people

03:42:36.420 but moving them out of that and into more i guess broad cosmic and philosophical but also heroic

03:42:48.280 sense um is really interesting is an interesting take because i did not see that anywhere else

03:42:56.280 he's generally lumped in to the romantic era and the romantic era is still cool i don't actually

03:43:02.180 don't have a problem with the winged helmets and stuff i think those are that's all deeply symbolic

03:43:08.100 uh elevated mind or or you know again uh manifesting will into the world and they have

03:43:15.460 horns on their helmets and what have you um i think it's just fun to be able to say like

03:43:21.460 they didn't actually have horns and it's kind of the well actually so that they go contrary right

03:43:27.140 just to have power you know they didn't you know it's like no but let's look at it in a broad sense

03:43:32.660 spiritually there's a lot of symbolism there and it comes from a time where western society was

03:43:39.780 in its prime it was firing on all cylinders and the gods were inspiring people then so i was going

03:43:48.420 to just say lauren's frolic is one i would definitely recommend for folks um also mary

03:43:55.300 h foster and mabel h cummings they were sisters and uh they drew most people might be very familiar

03:44:03.460 with uh and they're more in the romantic period but um they they did the picture of lord odin

03:44:10.580 sitting at the throne he's got light coming from his head and he has uh freki you know at his feet

03:44:20.340 and um he is so wings on his helmet the whole nine and then the last one too is alexander zick

03:44:30.900 along with like i love arthur rackham but arthur rackham i think he does um it's very north in the

03:44:41.620 in the mindset the the the beings of his artwork are encapsulated by big things in a lot of ways

03:44:49.860 like when you go to iceland and you stand there you realize you're just a tiny thing on this very

03:44:55.060 big earth this big middle world and you feel suddenly like your your place within it it's the

03:45:02.660 opposite of solipsism you you you are no longer disconnected you're extremely embedded in

03:45:08.980 everything and i i find that super fascinating with his art but i love when there are images of

03:45:16.580 expanding to different things the the light the circling of the head and that's obviously led

03:45:23.300 into our or you know the artwork that i am doing i'm trying to set as a base and we're trying to

03:45:29.540 move forward in the in the church so a lot of those really really cool modern though

03:45:36.260 i don't have anybody right now that i could say that i would point out as um modern but that's

03:45:44.260 just because i flag on the place silence you

03:45:51.300 so for modern art about our gods

03:45:58.660 there is a man on this screen that is not me that i think i would direct everyone to um

03:46:07.220 Um, somebody mentioned in the chat, it'd be cool to see what, uh, chat GPT would do.

03:46:17.180 And it would be, it'd be fun to see whatever that is. 0.92

03:46:21.640 But what the well actuallys don't get, oh, you see, the gods didn't have wings upon their helmets because of it. 1.00

03:46:31.880 Well, actually, gods aren't wearing helmets. 0.99

03:46:35.580 gods don't look like vikings well actually the gods may have whatever form they choose

03:46:47.780 or may not have any form at all that we can comprehend well actually they're gods and not

03:46:55.860 big Vikings

03:46:57.680 so

03:47:00.100 well actually

03:47:01.280 through

03:47:03.220 the eye of faith

03:47:05.740 people who love

03:47:08.300 our folk and who love

03:47:10.440 our gods and who love

03:47:12.180 our traditions

03:47:13.080 are able to depict

03:47:16.120 our gods in the best way

03:47:18.180 I would say any art

03:47:21.680 that depicts our gods

03:47:23.740 that's done by 0.69

03:47:25.080 A gothy, or at least a sincere practitioner of our faith, trumps all art that's done through the eye of imagination or of fantasy or of historical accuracy or of, you know, anything you can put your finger in between your eyes and push up your glasses about. 0.95

03:47:48.820 um the only gothi that i know that produces art depicting our gods 0.99

03:48:00.660 is the gentleman who is joining me on this broadcast tonight

03:48:06.020 and his depictions of our gods are the gold standard and i would direct everyone to them

03:48:14.580 um when you look at very ancient pieces from actual practitioners of our faith be they crude

03:48:27.540 wood carvings or you know primitive metal work of our gods those also have great value because

03:48:37.560 Those people believed in the subject they were portraying.

03:48:42.980 I think second to art produced by actual practitioners of our faith is things from the Romantic period where it was done by people who love our folk and who at the very least see our gods as aspirations.

03:49:07.560 and as amazing and beautiful.

03:49:12.820 Anything today by people that are just making something

03:49:16.220 because it's cool or because they're edgy 0.92

03:49:20.660 or because whatever silly nonsense,

03:49:24.740 I think that may spark some interesting ideas, 0.87

03:49:30.760 but it misses the essence and the point.

03:49:34.580 when the artwork is in and of itself devotional there's something that transcends what your eye

03:49:47.300 is perceiving that speaks to your soul and i think that's lost if the art is produced by

03:49:56.260 people who don't have that spark who don't have that inclination and for whatever that's worth

03:50:07.060 i i think that's that's what i would say on that but random side plug because i saw while

03:50:16.020 this was going on frank frazetta is awesome i love his artwork uh i don't know that it's

03:50:25.460 any reflection of his religious inclination but his spirit of arian heroism and you know

03:50:37.460 the heroes and the heroines of his pictures the you know the beautiful

03:50:44.900 the beautiful woman with the the very overtly masculine man protecting them against the the 0.99

03:50:51.700 And swarthy hordes of not human creatures, I think, speaks to a fundamental thing in all of our minds and all of our souls. 0.99

03:51:07.620 And I think he does a just beautiful, beautiful job. 0.98

03:51:11.740 So I like a lot of his artwork.

03:51:15.580 Again, please don't.

03:51:17.180 there's no historical accuracy or not.

03:51:23.640 It depends on what the artist wants to do,

03:51:26.920 but he's depicting gods.

03:51:29.980 Our gods don't look like anything

03:51:32.320 that we can possibly think they look like,

03:51:35.980 yet they look like anything

03:51:37.660 they want to reveal themselves to us as.

03:51:43.160 Art is funny that way,

03:51:45.180 but art depicting divinity especially so are we encapsulating what's the true essence of that god

03:51:55.360 or goddess are we encapsulating how they make us feel are we encapsulating you know the way we

03:52:04.560 imagine them to be all of those if done sincerely is beautiful any of those if done casually and

03:52:12.680 without regard is hideous,

03:52:15.840 no matter how beautiful the product, it lacks soul.

03:52:23.580 I did want to say, there's a lot of folks out there

03:52:27.880 that perhaps don't like my art,

03:52:33.960 the art that's going up.

03:52:36.480 They are wrong.

03:52:39.100 Well, there's another point to that though,

03:52:41.320 it's like it's really it doesn't matter what's done they're not gonna like it again and these 0.72

03:52:45.840 are the same people that are politicizing the gods and and putting a hijab on seif and uh lord

03:52:53.080 odin's wearing a t-shirt that says uh like no fascists involved or whatever they're clearly

03:53:00.180 they don't care about the divinity of the gods they're painting them for their purpose in the

03:53:05.900 most unpious and just really messed up stuff but um for those that are you know looking at the art

03:53:16.360 as they're in the church and they're wondering like why what choices i mean obviously you know

03:53:23.360 the the sun and rod around the head um the gold for divinity the red for those who are were mortal

03:53:32.280 and have passed and then white for the al-shari or govies these things are giving um it gives

03:53:40.880 format it creates order and hierarchy and understanding um but there's another point

03:53:49.860 to it as well i always wanted our artwork at least at this stage of our being to appeal both

03:53:56.940 to our children and to our folk or be very catchy very bright and in a lot of ways our children are

03:54:05.900 our excuse me our folk are like children they're coming over this chasm they have a new faith that

03:54:12.620 they're they're being inspired by and reintroduced into um and a lot of this this kind of dark grim

03:54:21.900 stuff and dark grim fantasy very very fine but i wanted in the way i pictured it was

03:54:29.260 if we hold a book and we open up these there's bright colors and the adult is able to speak

03:54:36.700 about the gods and the children looking at it were are like just itching to go outside

03:54:43.180 and pretend they have a hammer and they're just crushing thirsts and it inspires them um

03:54:51.340 that color, that movement towards those things is about changing the way that a lot of folks

03:54:59.520 kind of fall or hold the gods in our culture in certain ways. That's the reason why color choices

03:55:08.780 is also there's uh like thor's off the red shirt the blue um cape or half cloak representing light

03:55:21.420 and the sky while his pants and leggings are earth toned and water toned so he's of the earth

03:55:29.160 and the water and of the sky and the fire it's all symbolic there

03:55:33.380 but yeah i i i appreciate the the uh confidence but i it's it's more or less just giving people

03:55:44.380 a chance to kind of understand why on if you sucked i would tell you um i know i definitely

03:55:51.560 saying i disabused my wife of that early on in our relationship don't ask me questions you don't 0.87

03:55:57.220 want an answer to and i'm not going to tell anybody something that's not true if i want to

03:56:02.260 be nice i'll just keep my mouth shut and drink my wine um any of you that have had the uh privilege 0.59

03:56:12.020 of being in the presence of one of the murals that go or that witten spawn specking go to respond as

03:56:18.980 painted for us at our hafs will notice the transcendent quality of the piece

03:56:29.940 i think that it looks good aesthetically certainly looks much better than anything i could paint

03:56:37.820 but there's

03:56:41.200 there is a devotional aspect to it that is done because it comes from a heart of piety

03:56:50.920 that can't be faked it can't be overcome through skill or through cunning or through

03:57:00.640 you know anything else you can't fake that

03:57:07.900 the divine occupy and see us through the eyes of that which swan has painted for us

03:57:21.640 and i don't think you can say that about these other pieces

03:57:26.780 and and there's a lot to that and there's a lot to be said about that

03:57:33.760 Again, art is a really individual thing and it's a hard thing to put your finger on what

03:57:47.380 you like and what you don't. 0.93

03:57:51.320 We talked about Frank Frazetta, his art is ridiculous. 0.86

03:57:57.340 Nobody is that muscled. 0.99

03:58:00.220 No chicks are that lean and has that big of breasts and are that. 1.00

03:58:05.780 People don't look like that, but that's not the point of the art. 0.99

03:58:10.520 It's to evoke a primal vision of masculinity and of femininity,

03:58:19.000 a primal vision of unbridled battle lust, perhaps unbridled lust lust.

03:58:30.220 To evoke, somebody did, I think it was a documentary on Frazetta called Painting with Fire, and it was to evoke these things.

03:58:43.240 The point wasn't to make any of these things realistic.

03:58:47.200 He did cover art for fantasy stories and things that he'd never read.

03:58:55.740 that wasn't the point it was to

03:58:58.580 tap into something very

03:59:00.540 primal within us

03:59:01.940 expressed in it and it was done

03:59:04.680 beautifully and amazing

03:59:06.320 art

03:59:10.160 isn't

03:59:11.820 it can be about a lot of different

03:59:14.540 things but so much of it is about

03:59:16.480 the intent of the

03:59:18.080 artist and what they're trying

03:59:20.300 to do

03:59:20.940 there is something

03:59:24.420 extremely different when the point of what you're doing is merely commercial versus the point of

03:59:31.520 what you're doing is done with your soul towards a purpose. And that purpose can be any number of

03:59:38.700 things that you're inspired to do. And I'm not faulting any of that. But there's something

03:59:45.440 really important when what you are doing is intended to glorify the subject of your art.

03:59:57.300 And I think that's what we're talking about here. And I realize that I'm

04:00:03.980 waxing over long on the subject, but I think it's really important. And I think the same goes with

04:00:10.320 the same goes with music and

04:00:14.560 so i'm i'm a bottle and a half into the three dollar and 49 cent wines so i'm gonna

04:00:24.360 fair enough but i like a value so but

04:00:31.920 i mean this i have this conversation this is a conversation that witt and young and i have a lot

04:00:38.000 about music about musical uh musical tastes

04:00:42.860 there are musical artists that on a scale are much much more talented

04:00:55.880 objectively than other artists but there's something in their

04:01:02.120 display of it that transcends and i'll put this out there and i don't again i'm going over long

04:01:15.640 on this but i think it's kind of an interesting subject like

04:01:19.640 janice joplin is a horrible singer by any objective measure she is terrible at singing

04:01:29.180 but 0.78

04:01:31.460 her emotion

04:01:34.300 in what she sings is so

04:01:36.180 very raw and very on

04:01:38.120 the surface

04:01:38.720 it transcends

04:01:41.420 objectivity

04:01:43.400 and it touches something

04:01:46.460 inexperienced that other

04:01:48.300 things don't touch

04:01:49.340 Johnny Cash didn't write

04:01:52.300 anything

04:01:52.940 he's not a songwriter he's singing somebody else's

04:01:56.480 songs

04:01:56.980 but he puts so much soul into it that it becomes transcendent um and it expresses it far more than

04:02:12.580 the the writer of the song uh you know trent reznor talked about hurt and how when he heard

04:02:21.500 johnny cash do a cover of it it's like somebody stole his girlfriend because that's his song at

04:02:27.260 that point johnny cash's version of that song is transcendent not because of the words but because

04:02:37.500 of the heart he put into it and you see that a lot in different artistic expressions and i think

04:02:46.620 that's probably the best way to encapsulate what i'm trying to say um so somebody talks about her

04:02:52.220 screaming voice no i don't i'm not a fan of janice joplin please don't get me confused

04:02:57.020 not a janice joplin fan in any way but um

04:03:07.740 if you listen to her version and faith hill's cover version of her song

04:03:13.340 the one is clearly superior to the other because of the emotion thrown into it i don't like it

04:03:21.260 but it's just honest um there's a number of other people like that don't get caught up on

04:03:28.760 the specifics i'm just saying there's a transcendent quality when you see that

04:03:34.340 you are devoted to the thing that you were projecting that's very different than if you're

04:03:41.500 just very skilled at making a very good composition.

04:03:48.100 And they're appreciated on really different levels.

04:03:51.160 When you talk about something that is religious,

04:03:54.200 it's really different than when you're talking about...

04:03:59.660 I'm not sure what the word is,

04:04:03.260 But I think art transcends good reproduction of things.

04:04:12.940 Like a camera is not an artist, but it takes a 100% accurate picture of the thing it's trying to take a picture of.

04:04:23.720 The element of art to it is an entirely different story.

04:04:28.420 It's like Van Gogh's Starry Night looks nothing like an actual Starry Night, but it's powerful, and it's beautiful, and it speaks to us all the time in a way that doesn't when you just go outside and you look up.

04:04:43.920 What he puts into it is very different and transcendent, and I think that's the best I got on it.

04:04:52.700 art's a hard thing to define i have i have gone over long on the subject

04:04:59.820 but that's okay because we only got one question after it

04:05:04.460 uh what do you do when you find it hard to do ritual does that ever happen to you it's not so

04:05:13.420 much laziness but rather a feeling of pointlessness deep how do you get out of this slump

04:05:22.300 swan do you have any thoughts on that well the word that stuck out to me on that one is

04:05:30.060 pointlessness um that is a pervading feeling i think that's something that comes about because

04:05:40.140 of an overwhelming sense of negative uh information thoughts uh all this stuff going on

04:05:49.820 can create this tidal wave of feeling that is it just feels pointless to do this or or that or

04:06:00.560 what have you the only thing i mean i guess my initial thought was to think of like well what

04:06:05.920 would encourage someone to break through pointlessness um you know the the idea of

04:06:15.120 reconnecting to the to the gods of your people i have also so like reconnecting with your gods

04:06:22.320 of your people uh perhaps you know improving and re-honing and opening your life but it sounds

04:06:28.720 like you're already there and um i often talk about to duty and obligation to your ancestors

04:06:36.180 and to the gods but beyond that and i've been thinking about that question as i saw it and

04:06:44.760 trying to go back and forth and i think ultimately

04:06:51.000 the best answer i could give is that

04:06:55.320 there is nothing that you cannot give unto the gods in faith to them you don't have to do

04:07:04.920 elaborate you don't have to do intrinsically crazy things it's you can give faith

04:07:13.080 uh to the gods and the biggest thing is in giving that faith ask asking them if you're worthy asking

04:07:24.040 them if you can receive uh guidance pathway uh anything to break you from the miasma because 0.98

04:07:34.840 it's the pointlessness is an affliction unto itself it is part of that spittle that fenris 0.79

04:07:43.780 drips into the black lake that flows here it's not just consumption and fanaticism it's also

04:07:50.500 lethargy and apathy and you need to get away from that just as much but there's nothing that you

04:07:57.060 as simple as you have it all you have to do is give unto your faith to the gods

04:08:02.500 and that's all that's everything thereafter is cultural traditional or built upon other factors

04:08:11.240 you need to take your moment and speak to the gods even if it's just a matter of putting a chair

04:08:19.880 in front of your your hero and looking at the godsteads and saying this out loud saying that

04:08:29.920 I find this pointlessness here. I need to get through it because as long as you can verbally

04:08:36.060 say that you have a desire to move past it, it is something you can overcome. Otherwise you get

04:08:43.780 it's, uh, what is it? It's like, uh, the horse in the mud in that terrible movie from the 80s.

04:08:53.980 um never ending stop it stop it we all wept yes it's terrible ajax was the horse i think our tax

04:09:02.940 our tax our tax yes our tax and atreyu was very sad terrible we all wept i wept wept yes that was

04:09:13.340 that i mean i i mean terrible in the sense of how traumatic it was um but it that movie really

04:09:18.620 tapped into a lot of uh uh points and one of the things about that is is that you um

04:09:29.180 one admitting that it's there admitting that there is this sense of pointlessness

04:09:34.300 and then speaking that out loud and then saying i need help i need guidance

04:09:42.060 i need a way to go through and overcome this pointlessness and by you doing that

04:09:48.540 alone out loud is the steps towards allowing the gods to help you and for you to help yourself

04:09:58.140 in these dark and and desperate mental times if you do nothing then it is the horse sinking in the mud

04:10:11.260 First, thank you for asking the question.

04:10:18.960 What a profound question I think it is for Lama Folk. 0.56

04:10:36.600 One thing, if I can reinforce, awaken, or inspire any of our folk to do this, I will 0.97

04:10:53.000 have lived a worthwhile life.

04:11:01.800 that our gods are real that they exist and that you can interact with them as

04:11:13.080 their son or as their daughter if anyone I have ever known at this moment called

04:11:28.240 my phone and said hey matt i just wanted to tell you that i love you and i appreciate you

04:11:40.160 and you were my friend

04:11:44.000 there is no part of me that would not be moved most of those calls would bring me to tears

04:11:52.320 When we think of pointlessness, the biggest coup for the forces of chaos is dwindling

04:12:10.520 our folk to where we focus with our heads held down, thinking that life is pointless.

04:12:19.740 it is not pointless if the only things right in this world are you and the I seer it's not

04:12:31.960 pointless the world is burning down around you and in the maelstrom you reach out to our gods

04:12:42.940 and say, hey, I am here, I remember, I know you, I love you, here I am.

04:12:53.220 There is nothing pointless about that.

04:12:56.980 And it is heroic in its expression.

04:13:01.740 When I read your question, it cuts through a lot

04:13:06.920 because it speaks to something that so many of our people are dealing with.

04:13:12.940 And one of the greatest blessings I feel like the Aesir have given me, there is nothing that's pointless.

04:13:23.420 I don't know you.

04:13:25.800 I don't know who's asking the question.

04:13:28.960 I think there are two things in my life that have really reinforced that in a profound way.

04:13:37.260 Coming home to our gods and the birth of my daughter.

04:13:40.860 There is nothing that's pointless.

04:13:46.280 If everything else is going down the tubes.

04:13:55.680 If I can look at my daughter and make her smile.

04:14:00.780 And let her know that daddy loves her and is there for her.

04:14:05.320 That's not pointless no matter what.

04:14:08.000 if I can reach out to our gods and say,

04:14:12.960 hey, I don't know what everybody else is doing,

04:14:16.260 but I'm here, I remember, and I'm loyal.

04:14:23.020 That is everything in that moment,

04:14:27.660 and it's not pointless.

04:14:30.100 Our gods know, our gods remember.

04:14:33.100 ritual is never pointless if you are doing it from a place of sincerity

04:14:42.400 now I can say you know you asked does that ever happen to you no it doesn't and I'm not gonna

04:14:52.220 you know be dishonest with you and say that it does

04:14:57.000 but I know that it does for a lot of people

04:15:01.640 i am greatly blessed in my life that it doesn't for me

04:15:08.660 there are times i do ritual for the like i say for the folk that's not true i'm always doing it

04:15:18.120 for the eyes here but also for the folk there are times that i do bloat for

04:15:24.140 you know a crowd of people that i feel

04:15:29.660 was amazing, was awesome, did great.

04:15:35.100 There's times that I'm like, man, I messed that up.

04:15:38.160 That was, God, I owe everybody better.

04:15:40.520 That wasn't good enough.

04:15:42.340 There are all of those things.

04:15:45.660 But pre-public bloat, post-public bloat,

04:15:53.020 I check in with the gods.

04:15:55.600 I check in with whoever I'm doing bloat to.

04:16:00.540 That's never pointless.

04:16:03.720 I open my heart and I hope and I pray that I'm doing well.

04:16:10.340 I hope and I pray that I did something that made them proud.

04:16:18.840 That pre and post bloat prayer is never pointless.

04:16:24.800 don't ever feel that way tonight right now no matter what you are doing if you hear my voice

04:16:35.620 turn me off don't listen to me in swan anymore whatever you're doing

04:16:40.840 reach out to the gods and just say hey i'm here i care i stand with you

04:16:50.760 you will never regret that ever it is never never pointless

04:16:59.540 but i that's one of those questions doesn't seem like a lot but that's deep and i think that

04:17:08.340 i think that speaks to a lot and i'm really glad that you asked the question

04:17:14.500 all right so Svan do you have anything else for folks tonight that's the last

04:17:25.620 official question that we have in our queue but do you have more that you would like to

04:17:31.120 share with our folk this evening while I have you uh I mean again please come back and and

04:17:38.400 hear more of this great story and all of the things that inspired so much of uh tolkien and

04:17:45.280 fantasy and all of these things that survive in our culture even in the most mundane sense it

04:17:51.840 all derives from these places and the other is kind of speaking about what you had said

04:17:59.280 but the gods are real and your relationship with your living uh friends wife children can

04:18:11.280 be varied it can go up it can go down but you cannot be severed away from the relationship

04:18:17.600 you have with your gods and your ancestors and you don't have to get caught up in the

04:18:23.600 pomp of trying to say that you are some you're you're over over compensating through ignorance

04:18:33.920 or fear or what have you and acting in such a way that you can't maintain or reveal true thoughts

04:18:42.160 and feelings the gods know they're there all the pomp if if you're acting out and putting face

04:18:49.520 paint on and doing all these things and the gods know there's that's that's you're just presenting

04:18:56.480 that they but they know all those layers it's better i think to look at the gods and your

04:19:04.080 ancestors as inseparable from you you can be tricked into different things but they can't

04:19:12.400 be disconnected from you and you should be able to show them all things at all times you should

04:19:19.680 be able to approach them with your fallacies with your problems with your fears and doubts

04:19:26.960 and it's never about that you don't pray to the gods for them to just swoop in and save you

04:19:33.040 that's not the point the point is one to say i it it doesn't matter who i'm married to it doesn't

04:19:40.480 matter what offspring i have at the end of the day uh the gods and my ancestors i cannot be

04:19:47.280 separated from them and i can always speak even about the innermost problems and fears that i have

04:19:53.920 i don't have to do it in pomp i don't have to do it in all of those things that stuff is good

04:19:58.800 in certain ways and we do that for cultural and and i'm not downing that but there are other times

04:20:05.040 to we're even sitting down and just talking out loud places your your soul into those layers

04:20:15.920 that allows you to find ways to move forward the moment you stop talking the moment you're silent

04:20:22.960 and the moment you cut loose and you sever yourself from the gods and your ancestors

04:20:28.240 that's when it's truly

04:20:30.240 I think destitution

04:20:32.160 and I just wouldn't ever

04:20:34.260 want that to ever happen

04:20:35.840 at that point I would say please reach out to

04:20:38.260 other people but

04:20:39.860 you know I think we're talking about the scope

04:20:42.220 of that question is more in a religious

04:20:44.360 sense than in a life

04:20:46.160 sense but

04:20:47.520 so I think swans on to something

04:20:50.200 really important there

04:20:51.280 there is

04:20:54.140 something very

04:20:55.660 cathartic to our soul

04:21:01.020 can't trick the gods gods know you they see through you you can't thump your chest and talk

04:21:13.420 about what a badass you are i mean unless you are but our gods know you they know who you are

04:21:24.880 they can see you coming a mile away.

04:21:31.120 So it's humbling,

04:21:34.040 but it's also liberating in the sense that you don't have to pretend you're anybody you're not.

04:21:43.320 You don't have to put on pretense.

04:21:48.620 You don't have to try to impress them.

04:21:51.060 I think you should try to impress them with the way you live your life, but in that moment, you can't fool them, you can't con them, you are who you are, and you're either genuinely laying part of your soul upon the altar and speaking to them, or you're not.

04:22:17.380 You're just going through the motions and, you know, trying to BS them.

04:22:23.700 And I say that, and I don't, it's another thing on this show that we talk about a lot that I think is very important.

04:22:35.960 Everything we do in our life, we want to elevate ourselves to be worthy of our gods.

04:22:43.400 we don't ever want to drag them down to our level

04:22:50.020 knowing because the thing is we always want to be closer to the gods well we can do that one of two

04:23:01.000 ways we can bring ourselves up closer to them or we can try to bring them down closer to us

04:23:10.300 We always want to do the former and never, ever the left.

04:23:15.580 But that said, our way of understanding them has to start with seeing them through the eyes that we have and through the experience that we have.

04:23:29.840 When I say that at any moment, if anyone who's in my phone calls me and has, doesn't matter anything else, literally, anyone who's ever been in my phone, if they called me right now and said,

04:23:52.020 Hey, Matt, I want you to know that you mean something to me, that I love you, that I care about you, that, you know, I stand with you, you're my guy.

04:24:05.420 That is always, always, always well received.

04:24:09.840 If someone calls and they have some kind of strange, nuanced, feeling out process nonsense, less so.

04:24:24.000 And I'll say this because it's disarming and I think that there is a truth in it.

04:24:30.860 Never mind that I'm almost through bottle two of my $3.49 Walmart wine.

04:24:37.380 And Vino Veritas was a reference to our folk because part of our drinking culture in the tribal era was so that when there was a lot of pretense between nobility, between warrior thanes, of trying to see who's the biggest badass,

04:25:01.660 a little bit of drink opens up you know the hey man i love you as silly as that's come to be

04:25:12.140 there's an honesty to it that our ancestors appreciated

04:25:16.180 when somebody is able to just open up and drop the pretense hey this is who i am this is where

04:25:24.360 matt i really appreciate you i love you i miss you i'm thankful for you whatever that is we all

04:25:35.640 know it when we hear it and it doesn't ever or at least i hope for you it never ever

04:25:45.480 doesn't make an impression on you or doesn't mean something so when people talk about things

04:25:51.800 being pointless or being uh seeming meaningless whenever anyone in your life that you care about

04:26:00.040 or that she that you don't care about literally if any person with sincerity in their voice

04:26:08.760 sincerity in their expression has something kind to say to me

04:26:15.720 that has a value it's never nothing and I think we all know that as people that's part of

04:26:24.840 the human condition and when I say this I don't mean to diminish anything but I talk a lot about

04:26:31.500 relating to our gods a scholar pontificating about Davis Potter and what that means linguistically

04:26:39.840 it that so i'm refraining from making vulgar gesturing but all of that is just kind of absurd

04:26:54.560 hey all father i'm here i appreciate you

04:27:01.280 i'm doing my best i want to do this right i want to make you proud of me hail odin

04:27:11.920 i have to believe that that is well received whereas the other i don't think that odin is

04:27:20.160 impressed by your meager academic flex i do think that he sees your heart and he cares about

04:27:31.600 sincere expression

04:27:35.680 somebody that sacrifices himself on the world tree for the runes and plucks out his eye for wisdom

04:27:43.440 i don't really think that your three books you read in college about

04:27:49.840 dumazil makes a hill of crap difference to him and i do think that matters

04:27:58.080 listen up george i don't disrespect the work that you've done it's not that not the point 0.62

04:28:14.640 the fact that i know your name to use it quasi disparagingly i think is a testament to your

04:28:22.000 We're enduring scholarship. 0.99

04:28:25.080 I'm anti-Dumazil.

04:28:27.020 I'm just saying. 0.99

04:28:28.660 That's certainly not the end of things.

04:28:32.020 While I'm waxing poetic on this, we have another question that came in.

04:28:38.380 The sun was worshipped in almost every ancient culture.

04:28:43.540 And in some religions was the primary deity.

04:28:47.460 Is the sun goddess considered a major deity in the AFA?

04:28:52.000 Swan, speak on that, if you would.

04:28:56.160 So the celestial gods of order and maintenance are the hymen verdur, the heavenly wardens.

04:29:09.700 And an understanding that I think a lot of folks don't consider is that one, our holy gods are powerful, but some are given duty and preside over things.

04:29:26.780 the muspel spark that soul suna is holding presiding keeping and it is again referred to

04:29:41.080 as making it that it is not able to burn the world on top of this there is emir's skull which

04:29:52.540 is called delinger's hall and delinger is the presider over this and there's kind of like the

04:30:00.680 inner and the outer major i i certainly think that any of the holy ice here could be honored by us

04:30:08.260 and every god and goddess has their moments of cultural shift when there's a desire and a wanting

04:30:17.000 to and then other times they kind of seamlessly meld in because culture is always changing um

04:30:24.380 but like forced focus of that is very very interesting i would say that the human brother

04:30:35.140 are seen as gods that have duty and that duty is to maintain the correct passageways they knew not

04:30:46.980 their their course in heaven and were given their course in heaven and so our our ancestors saw them

04:30:55.180 as maintaining track mauni maintains time he does this through the the calling of the seasons

04:31:04.140 the day counts the day the moon counts the seasons these are the ways that we know when to do

04:31:11.720 certain things planting and why we have austera during austera moon knowing that this is the time

04:31:20.040 where where summer is going to start um all of that is really important uh but i think on an

04:31:28.140 individual level from the church's perspective if you are giving worship to um the celestial

04:31:36.340 and heavenly bodies. It's generally done in times where that has significance. Ostara is honored a

04:31:45.540 lot during Ostara, but very rarely do I ever see a lot of folks just honoring her, um, outside of

04:31:54.740 that. Could you at any time of year? Absolutely. But that's the biggest thing is that they are

04:32:00.880 maintaining their

04:32:02.440 the order that is

04:32:05.060 shared by all

04:32:06.500 so and maybe

04:32:08.940 you should so guard against

04:32:11.000 Ooga Booga stuff

04:32:12.400 this is a very

04:32:16.820 important point

04:32:18.000 that I think a lot of people

04:32:20.620 miss when they view

04:32:22.280 from the outside

04:32:23.760 we do not practice

04:32:27.100 animism we do not

04:32:29.040 worship the sun

04:32:30.440 The sun is a star made up of cosmic gases that does stuff.

04:32:36.620 It's cool. I appreciate it.

04:32:39.640 It helps us, or I mean, it allows us to exist.

04:32:44.660 I do not worship the sun.

04:32:47.760 The sun is a collection of gases that does stuff.

04:32:52.040 I do worship forces that animate, that regulate, that create, and that officiate the sun.

04:33:03.560 And it might seem like a very subtle difference to those on the outside, but it's a massive difference.

04:33:12.120 Our ancestors aren't primitive ape beings that, son, that's, no, that's not how it works.

04:33:27.440 There are gods and spirits that interact with the natural world, that participate in the gift cycle with all of us, that their dominion is reflected in natural phenomenon.

04:33:47.280 but no the ooga booga let's worship the sun because it is a god let's worship

04:33:56.840 mercury because we see that really bright light it is a god no that's not how it works

04:34:04.960 and when we limit it to that level we do a disservice to our ancestors

04:34:12.480 We do a disservice to those who come before us.

04:34:15.800 And we don't acknowledge that people in the, you know, arch-ousadreau era, people who were alive at the recording of our lore, our physiology is the same.

04:34:34.500 Our brain size, our ability to make sense of the world is the same. 0.95

04:34:41.640 To think that our, you know, great, great, however many times grandparents are these idiot monkey creatures, you know, beating bones together, that's not how it works.

04:34:58.720 But they did realize that there are spirits that animate the world around us, that speak to us and tell us things and are the movers of some of these greater phenomenon, to recognize the difference between, I drive my car, I'm not my car. 0.96

04:35:24.580 That's a real fundamental difference that maybe howler monkeys don't understand, but our ancestors surely understood.

04:35:39.180 And we owe them that amount of respect instead of, I don't know, an anthropological arrogance.

04:35:48.200 our ancestors are better than that

04:35:54.560 and we're better than that 1.00

04:35:56.280 so the solar worship

04:35:58.360 I think a lot of the times when you see that

04:36:00.700 in other cultures

04:36:01.500 it's not just deification of the sun

04:36:04.400 it's respecting

04:36:06.620 of powers that they believe

04:36:08.720 animate or move the sun

04:36:10.720 or make the sun work

04:36:11.980 I think there are probably some versions

04:36:14.500 of earth fauna that

04:36:16.140 do in fact worship the sun

04:36:18.540 because they don't know better

04:36:19.720 that's not us, that's not our ancestors

04:36:22.160 I was going to say

04:36:24.500 one of the interesting things

04:36:26.620 is this primordial

04:36:28.020 placement of stewardship is very

04:36:30.480 interesting, our ancestors

04:36:32.660 saw that

04:36:34.100 the sun is a spark from

04:36:36.460 Muspelheim and

04:36:38.220 soul is given stewardship

04:36:40.580 over it to keep

04:36:42.620 it in order

04:36:44.560 that it was out of order and then was brought into order um and the earth emir's body that

04:36:52.540 the utilization of things and becoming stewards over it uh to to bring order to it but it gets

04:37:01.520 even stranger the the usage of the bellows the mythological language the two horses the bellows

04:37:08.940 the shield that she holds behind her to deflect the heat and just recently these uh there was a

04:37:17.260 scientific discovery of something they call the helios shield that stops these terrible rays

04:37:24.140 from coming in and burning the the earth and i see that and i'm like oh but how did they they

04:37:29.900 how did they know the gods the gods gave this to our ancestors it was spoken through but it's

04:37:35.740 spoken through in language that could be understood then and now in a very different context

04:37:42.460 why does the the earth have two horses day and not riding two horses the sun has two horses

04:37:51.980 but mauni only has one and out of all of those mauni is the only one that has not its own

04:37:59.820 centrifugal access that blows my mind a lot of that stuff but as far as worship goes i think

04:38:08.380 personal worship absolutely during midsummer you will see a lot of honoring towards uh

04:38:14.460 soul and towards balder um austro for the dawn during the dawn of summer but uh as majority

04:38:25.180 majorism i think that that's a big thing that we talk about is um we understand the hierarchy of

04:38:31.500 our gods we understand the tripartite and everything that works down from there but

04:38:35.980 there are cults of the gods that will come in and out and grow and recede based on the needs

04:38:42.860 of the folk and the gods are always there to provide that i'd also like to i see a white

04:38:50.140 horse also true mentioned uh rune dalvering and he was able to find his wallet uh after it fell

04:38:57.820 on a bus and that sounds silly i will mention um i have been greatly greatly blessed by the icer in

04:39:10.300 my life there have been times to where i was struggling when i first moved down to florida

04:39:18.060 i'd left everything i knew in alaska to go and be with who would become my future wife and

04:39:28.540 part of that was to further my ability to work for the austral folk assembly

04:39:35.580 that led me to where i am today but there was some pretty lean years there

04:39:41.740 and i did some on the way up to a well i guess

04:39:45.740 Because within the week preceding my trip up to Winter Nights in the Poconos from Florida, I was, it was getting pretty lean.

04:40:00.340 And I was really in need of some wealth.

04:40:06.240 And I did a, you know, a series of very intentional rune galder to increase my, my wealth and my ability to have enough money to experience some of the joys of life with, with Mandy and myself.

04:40:28.240 and I did

04:40:30.660 again it wasn't like an all the time

04:40:33.500 thing I think you know

04:40:35.040 the Lord advises us not to ask

04:40:37.220 over much and not to

04:40:38.800 do it all the time for everything

04:40:41.360 but at a particular

04:40:43.500 low there I was doing

04:40:45.400 a really intentional room

04:40:47.140 to

04:40:47.500 do well

04:40:51.860 wealth wise

04:40:52.760 I discovered

04:40:55.860 when we were driving up

04:40:57.520 95. First, it was

04:41:01.160 funny is not the right word, but

04:41:05.880 we were driving through Bethesda, Maryland and

04:41:09.840 none of us really took note because if you've ever driven on 95

04:41:13.240 it is a flat, straight stretch of roads

04:41:18.000 far enough south it is lined with palm trees

04:41:21.320 get a little bit further it's lined with pines

04:41:24.880 but you don't have any idea where you are you're just driving a straight

04:41:31.180 boring road those of us out west know about really dramatic roads 95 is not that so we're

04:41:40.580 driving that up to uh winter nights and we happen to be in bethesda maryland but we didn't 1.00

04:41:47.540 make note of that and then mandy was baffled that there's all these one-armed one-legged people like

04:41:54.440 what's going on here this is crazy uh we were right by the uh the army medical hospital there

04:42:03.000 prosthesis uh stuff but we pulled over to get some gas and i'm gonna do a store

04:42:10.920 and i found the wallet found a wallet with 400 in it

04:42:16.360 and no IDs, no credit cards, no any identifying features other than a leather wallet

04:42:26.240 that had $400 cash in it. I thought maybe I was on candid camera or some nonsense,

04:42:35.620 but no, I mean, okay, cool. I'll take it. And we're able to eat out a little bit and have a

04:42:44.640 nice trip up there, and it was really interesting because usually you don't run into something

04:42:50.600 that doesn't have any identifying feature other than, hey, here is a bundle of dollar

04:42:59.820 bills for you. So things work in really strange ways. Yeah, I don't preclude that at all.

04:43:11.120 it's an odd and seemingly minor thing i've seen rune galder and not just that way i've seen it

04:43:19.600 work in a lot of ways in this life that might seem subtle or might seem silly if you say it out loud

04:43:29.200 but absolutely i believe in it and it works and it's worked for me in my life a number of times

04:43:36.240 and uh you know i'm glad to hear that it works for you and i hope that it works for others that

04:43:41.120 are listening to the broadcast so we have answered the questions presented to us this evening

04:43:49.920 we have read up through chapter 15 of the little sunga saga

04:43:56.640 this is turning out to be a very long series with us fun and myself but it's a very good one

04:44:04.240 And thank you guys all for indulging us in it.

04:44:10.300 I appreciate everybody who has donated.

04:44:13.920 We've raised, you know, a couple of hundred dollars tonight for New York's off, which is a big deal.

04:44:21.200 But Spawn and I have also got to go through bits of lore that we've not seen, maybe, in quite some time.

04:44:32.260 and we've got to read those and experience those with each other

04:44:40.060 and with you guys and learn from them and grow from them.

04:44:47.240 Other thing that I meant to mention earlier for people about the sun and the moon

04:44:52.320 and many of the things that we do,

04:44:55.880 It's easy to see a vast body of lore and not know where to start.

04:45:04.760 One thing that I think is really beneficial in Ausitru, you can go a million different, okay, that's obviously overstating it.

04:45:16.700 you can go tens of different ways with this and be uh be well served going through any of our lore

04:45:26.860 is valuable and beautiful and beneficial i think very particularly though

04:45:36.060 if you have opportunity to go through uh the guild beginning

04:45:41.500 more than any other specific poem in our lore.

04:45:49.320 I think that reinforces and builds our faith in a very special way.

04:45:56.440 I would encourage everybody who can to go through that.

04:46:00.700 Something funny and interesting, I don't know,

04:46:06.800 point of interest that I do,

04:46:09.320 especially uh those okay so we have another question that popped up and i'll hit this but

04:46:15.320 one thing that i've some of you may know i have been trying very hard over the last however long

04:46:24.360 to

04:46:27.240 really dive into the linguistics of our lore to learning icelandic and old norse

04:46:36.520 to better further my endeavors that way to better understand subtleties in our war

04:46:45.880 some of it literally hurts my mouth and i have to put the thing down after a few minutes because

04:46:52.600 my tongue and my jaw is not used to making all of the icelandic noises

04:46:57.960 um and it is funny it absolutely is but one thing i've found myself doing lately is going through

04:47:09.780 the guild beginning and reading it out loud in old norse to myself and uh involuntarily

04:47:19.180 to my daughter as I kind of go through it.

04:47:24.980 And that's been really cool

04:47:26.840 because I'm picking up things that when I look over to the side

04:47:31.400 and it helps that I know the story. It helps that I know a lot of it already.

04:47:36.800 But it's been really special

04:47:39.640 to go through. So if you're out there

04:47:43.580 and you don't know where to start, you don't know what to do, there's all this lore,

04:47:47.580 it's all foreign to you or not accessible the gilfaginning i think is a very good place to

04:47:56.140 start i think it's a very good place to spend your time and i think it's a very valuable place to

04:48:05.580 frequently reinforce your faith through i have a question from finn wraith appreciate seeing

04:48:14.220 me here. I look forward to seeing you on the program. Have you ever felt something bad happen,

04:48:22.300 like a punishment from the gods? Svan, what are you doing?

04:48:30.140 Um, punishment.

04:48:40.540 Uh, yes, but not in perhaps a way that people would think.

04:48:45.660 Um, I believe that the gods bless us and punish us in very different ways.

04:48:51.560 And both of those ways have, uh, effects.

04:48:57.380 that it's not that the blessing is just something and then that's it generally it is uh something

04:49:04.520 that teaches us that or law uh i mean anything placed in the well by the gods is going to draw

04:49:14.500 things to it and so it can then turn things around and it goes broader from there sometimes it can

04:49:21.900 a pinprick but so if a if a bad thing happens um i first try to figure out or perceive if it's

04:49:31.900 actually a bad thing or am i just perceiving it to be bad so i try to look beyond that the other

04:49:38.620 thing is is i think that there have been bad things that have happened to me with the absolute

04:49:44.380 intention by the gods to teach me things to make me stronger to make me realize things um

04:49:53.420 so i believe that the gods work in that realm and that

04:49:58.940 there are a lot of factors going on when the gods place themselves into orlaw

04:50:06.220 have the gods separated themselves by kind of bringing themselves down into my life and doing

04:50:12.700 something directly i believe only once and i'm not even 100 sure of it but i like to believe

04:50:21.740 that they did something good for me in that sense that was way outside of the bounds of necessity

04:50:28.060 for any living breathing you know human they have seen so many of us come and go um but as far as

04:50:38.860 like good and bad i don't think that they are things that are always equated to say

04:50:46.380 punishment but sometimes most certainly to lay in front of to uh to

04:50:54.860 overcome or to learn parts about ourselves that we didn't know existed i remember praying this is

04:51:02.620 going to sound really strange but i was young so i was and i was back from uh the the marine corps

04:51:10.460 i was i was lonely and i i prayed to the gods to just find i wanted to find someone and be not

04:51:18.620 alone and i found her and she was an absolute train wreck and i learned a lot about my life

04:51:29.180 i learned a lot about who i was i literally prayed for it and then the next thing that

04:51:35.740 happened was i went through this horrendous time in my life with this you know evil evil snake

04:51:44.300 woman um but i look back on it retrospectively at the time i was having a miserable time and

04:51:50.860 i was like man i prayed for this and this is what i why are you doing this to me why did

04:51:55.420 some of god's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers

04:52:03.400 and i but you know retrospectively now i learned so much about myself

04:52:09.200 i matured in my emotions i matured in my mentality i don't think that i would be

04:52:16.300 would have been ready for the commitments and things i needed for my wife if i had not learned

04:52:23.820 all the stuff that i was put through on that and that's the way sometimes the gods work

04:52:32.700 but you know there's other things like loss of loved ones i think that's orlog is is going that

04:52:43.660 orlog moves and it has all of its actions and reactions and what we do when we encounter it

04:52:50.940 is very important if we willfully press against it or ride over it that is more i think our

04:52:59.100 spiritual pathway we're not so much as just saying well you know god's working mysterious ways and or

04:53:05.820 you know i've i just i forgive everything i'm just gonna let it go and let let jesus that stuff

04:53:13.420 doesn't really happen in our faith what it more is is that it's like i understand why i'm feeling

04:53:20.780 this way i'm very upset i'm angry what am i gonna do about it gods are watching me what the hell am

04:53:26.380 i gonna do and again the gods don't always place rainbows and butterflies in front of us

04:53:33.260 and with good reason but uh as far as like straight punishment doing something and getting

04:53:41.660 slapped for it uh nothing that i can call to mind and i'm really hesitant to say that because if this

04:53:49.900 has happened and maybe they're like well you didn't get the oh you didn't get the memo but but

04:53:57.820 i i mean everything that i've had happen um that was bad or was struggle was always willfully met

04:54:05.100 with how can i overcome it so yeah i mean that's my answer i don't know of anything specifically

04:54:12.460 where i feel like i just got raked over the coals for it so some of this

04:54:24.860 is how i choose to process things first academically and objectively certainly

04:54:33.420 i can't conceive of a way that the gods approve of everything i've ever done in my life

04:54:43.620 and i'm sure displeasure or disapproval has been expressed in some way

04:54:53.300 i very consciously make the effort and it's become

04:54:59.360 integral

04:55:03.160 in the way I see the world.

04:55:07.240 Every blessing that I have

04:55:09.360 in my life

04:55:10.120 is because the gods have

04:55:13.220 favored me and I am thankful

04:55:15.420 for it.

04:55:18.260 Every

04:55:19.020 calamity, every

04:55:21.500 every hardship

04:55:24.960 is my fault.

04:55:29.360 I am very willing to attribute all good things to the Aesir, and I am very willing to take responsibility for all negative things upon myself.

04:55:43.500 I don't honestly tell you, standing in front of you,

04:55:50.840 and very much under the influence of the fruit of the vine,

04:55:57.760 I'm going to be honest with you.

04:56:01.600 I think there's probably ways that the gods do show me disfavor

04:56:06.000 if I've done wrong or made missteps.

04:56:09.700 I also believe that there's many ways that they bless me.

04:56:13.500 but I'm never going to rail against them

04:56:19.060 or act as if they've done me wrong.

04:56:22.060 I am always going to praise them for ways that I'm blessed

04:56:26.460 and ways that I have beautiful things in my life.

04:56:36.300 You can get yourself in a really strange spiral

04:56:39.820 interpreting every misfortune that you experience as divine punishment.

04:56:51.240 But I think that everything, be it a blessing or a misstep, you can learn from.

04:57:02.100 I think that God's teach us lessons in many ways in our lives.

04:57:07.120 but every

04:57:10.040 misfortune in my life

04:57:13.400 is my fault

04:57:14.260 every blessing in my life

04:57:18.000 I'm not pretending that I don't have

04:57:21.460 something to do with it, certainly I do

04:57:23.380 but I'm happy to give thanks for every

04:57:27.360 blessing in my life to the Iseer

04:57:29.160 i've watched the new documentary also true in america faith or fascism do you have any thoughts

04:57:44.480 on the documentary and has it brought more positive or negative attention to the afa

04:57:49.560 since uh swan and i were both uh interviewed for said documentary swan what are your thoughts

04:57:58.020 um it was uh i mean

04:58:03.800 i think it was comical in a way that they set it up and i actually believe that the people that

04:58:13.340 came to interview us know that it's comical i think the way they came to our hof and they

04:58:22.000 talk to us and they got to see us they realized a lot of the perhaps the preconceived notions that

04:58:31.600 they had are different they did want to get footage of us doing our food drive but it never

04:58:37.520 worked out because we do it once a month and they could never get their guys down from dc to do it

04:58:43.840 at the right time that we wanted to then on short notice they wanted to do yule but i didn't want to

04:58:49.040 spring a tv crew on to our folk during an auspicious time of the year and i felt that

04:58:55.920 that was deeply irresponsible and on top of that they gave us a very short notice and again when

04:59:01.680 they got us they talked to us and i think they were expecting something else and they got something

04:59:09.920 very different and so that kind of extended their timetable out and they were slowly working on it

04:59:15.040 but then eventually they they put this together and it's like you know these people who are saying

04:59:24.160 same things but are they really evil we go to this guy who hates you know or he's gonna hate

04:59:31.520 them and talk about why they shouldn't uh move for the interests of their own people and he's for 0.60

04:59:38.080 the advancement of colored people and it just it was very comical in a lot of ways but i think

04:59:44.560 overall yeah that stuff gives us um great benefit but the the one the one that was done with uh 0.99

04:59:53.440 whit and brandy i think garnered more because of how spicy everything was i mean i don't know

05:00:01.040 we'll see where this one goes if the only place that picks it up is the turkish whatever

05:00:07.920 that'll be really interesting it was strange because the the news outlet that picked it up

05:00:13.740 was trt and i don't know what that stands for i'm not i'm not a turkish fellow it is probably not

05:00:23.300 testosterone replacement therapy although i would advocate that for any

05:00:28.960 to the program it's good stuff um cool uh i think it was absolutely much more of a benefit than any

05:00:42.000 kind of detriment i think that strategically if they would have dialed back the comical silliness

05:00:51.520 by at least a third i think it would have met their ends a little bit better

05:00:56.800 the like

05:00:58.240 evil 0.92

05:01:01.440 whatever was silly 0.96

05:01:03.820 deep in the heart of America 0.99

05:01:05.780 lurks hatred and fascism

05:01:08.120 that's absurd 0.88

05:01:10.140 guy that

05:01:12.460 did the interview he was awesome

05:01:14.380 he and I got along fine

05:01:16.320 after the interview we were talking about

05:01:18.280 like where to go for some good

05:01:19.860 Mexican food

05:01:21.620 and I will say that

05:01:23.900 Taqueria

05:01:26.400 los gallos you find yourself in the in the greater greater reno area taqueria los gallos is a

05:01:36.800 fantastic uh mexican establishment with some amazing uh jalisco cuisine

05:01:45.760 uh my favorite restaurant i've ever had i was suggesting it to those guys because it

05:01:50.400 was walking distance from the hotel that they did the interview at i'll say this

05:01:56.320 it felt cool it felt like a big deal but they had me come down to this like hotel room and do this

05:02:02.080 interview they flew a guy and his cameraman out to do this interview with me for about

05:02:09.040 two hours and 45 minutes as you will notice most of that did not make it into the trt piece

05:02:16.240 maybe it will make it into subsequent pieces i don't know guy was fine the guy even told me that

05:02:21.920 we weren't as extreme as most of the people he interviews he was great we had a really nice

05:02:28.960 conversation um that's the thing please none of you who are listening to this think that we're

05:02:39.040 dumb we realize most of the media that's going to reach out to us it's going to tell us everything

05:02:46.080 we want to hear, and they're going to do a hit piece because their editor 0.98

05:02:50.200 says, hey, we want a piece on racism

05:02:53.480 because racism sells and because we're race badders.

05:03:00.480 We know that.

05:03:02.280 But if we don't do it, chances are the story's still going to happen.

05:03:07.480 But in that scenario, it happens

05:03:09.840 and the people that wear cut-up cardboard boxes

05:03:14.080 on their head are going to be the voice of our faith no we're going to step up we're going to

05:03:20.000 be the voice of ausa truth we are responsible for the things that we say and i told the guy this on

05:03:28.160 the day of you know he said whatever and i said hey you know unless you guys use ai to make me

05:03:36.800 say things i didn't say i'm responsible for everything i said and i stand by it and i

05:03:44.160 appreciate the opportunity and i mean that we have gotten way more positive than anything negative

05:03:51.280 we've gotten from it as we always do to any piece the media has ever done on us

05:03:58.880 as i mentioned at the beginning of the show tonight one of the biggest things that is a

05:04:04.240 A hindrance to our folk coming home is simply not knowing that this is an option or that we exist.

05:04:12.960 I hope I came off well in the piece.

05:04:16.240 I know that Svan came off amazing.

05:04:19.620 He looked like a million bucks for us.

05:04:22.380 and I'm very proud

05:04:25.740 that both he

05:04:27.480 I and Thorshoff

05:04:29.620 were represented

05:04:32.120 and

05:04:33.620 we

05:04:35.820 have the benefit of living in an age

05:04:38.200 where the people that hate us

05:04:39.620 are going to hate us regardless

05:04:42.200 because they are

05:04:44.240 twisted in that way

05:04:46.420 but our folk are going to

05:04:50.000 see the things that we say

05:04:51.640 see the beauty in them, and join us.

05:04:55.520 Some have, more will,

05:04:59.160 and I look forward to the opportunity in the future.

05:05:02.840 The interview process was great.

05:05:05.660 The guy that interviewed us didn't use the spooky,

05:05:09.240 mysterious, evil lurks behind the doorway voice

05:05:13.200 when he talked to me.

05:05:15.720 I'll probably do another interview with him.

05:05:19.300 um he's a cool enough guy we'll see but it's a calculated thing that we do because

05:05:28.460 in life you lose every every one of the chances you don't take you lose

05:05:35.360 as long as we are not being altered in what we say and it's not being done dishonestly

05:05:45.680 whatever wrapping paper they want to put on it

05:05:49.400 is entirely up to them

05:05:50.920 but Svan and I are going to stand up

05:05:54.060 for the truth as we know it to be 0.93

05:05:57.240 for the will of the Iseer 0.97

05:05:59.640 as has been revealed to us

05:06:03.320 to the best of our ability

05:06:04.760 we will try the best that we can

05:06:08.260 to advocate for our folk

05:06:10.060 for our faith, for our gods

05:06:12.340 and to represent the rest of you

05:06:15.160 the very best of our ability if we fail in that we apologize sincerely if we succeed in that we are

05:06:24.920 proud to do so and we look forward to future opportunities but um yeah overall it was a

05:06:33.160 positive thing i felt like a big deal having a hotel room two hour 45 minute interview with

05:06:41.160 with guys flown out from Washington, D.C., moving up in the world.

05:06:46.640 So that's what I got to say on it.

05:06:49.760 Svon, do you have any experience on that you'd like to relate to folks

05:06:53.080 or anything you want to add?

05:06:54.240 I mean, I think one thing is what you said.

05:06:59.320 We are representing Ausitru.

05:07:02.840 We are Ausitru. 0.89

05:07:04.260 Also, there was no other Ausitru-like intake except for the Icelanders 0.97

05:07:10.240 Icelanders who, again, are privileged enough to live in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean 0.94

05:07:15.720 and are dangerously trying to skirt around geopolitics. And I had made mention of that 1.00

05:07:24.040 because they asked, they said, you know, what do you think about the leader of the Asatru

05:07:29.120 Fellowship up there saying that, you know, your religion doesn't have this. And first

05:07:35.460 stuff i was like well they don't experience it because they're in iceland and i'm from there and

05:07:40.920 i know that that but how long before uh there are people who are not icelanders coming up there

05:07:49.080 and say uh that they are asa true and uh and why do you keep drawing for white he should be

05:07:58.160 no color or he could be any color and that and then every icelander who suddenly goes wait a

05:08:04.460 minute they're gonna get laid they're labeled as a defector or a racist or what have you um the

05:08:10.580 concept never enters their mind because they're so far back on the time scale of things um so they

05:08:16.980 didn't they didn't add that and uh i mean i i think the other thing was yeah it was kind of

05:08:23.000 comical in the sense that they were coming around saying like well do you denounce this do you

05:08:28.740 denounce that and i remember they cut me off in one of my things i said that we don't denounce

05:08:34.740 politics because we're not a political organization so but one of the funny things they grabbed

05:08:42.240 they grabbed random black dude in wherever in north carolina and like hey have you heard about

05:08:50.360 the well i don't know about them well cool what do you have to say about racism one time when i was

05:08:56.860 young boy i was whistling at a white lady and my daddy's like hey you knocked that off

05:09:04.220 hell does that have to do with anything we're talking about and i don't aim that as the

05:09:10.380 spokesman for the naacp he was interviewed completely at random about something he

05:09:19.260 didn't have anything on the radar about their attempt to find a counterpoint

05:09:27.260 was so lacking and i think that's telling we have bad relationships with our neighbors

05:09:33.980 or we had wronged anyone in any way surely they would have found that person to

05:09:41.820 denounce us and say what horrible monsters were but he didn't they found

05:09:47.980 the association for the advancement of colored peoples to say i don't know about those guys 0.89

05:09:58.920 but the kkk is bad because when i was a kid in the 1970s my dad told me not to whistle at white 0.85

05:10:08.100 ladies it really doesn't have anything to do with the ask true folk assembly which he readily

05:10:16.700 admits he doesn't know anything about it there was one if that's the best they can do at finding

05:10:24.700 a counterpoint i think that in and of itself speaks really well for us the other thing i'd

05:10:33.420 like to say i think the leadership of the australia in uh uh eastland is

05:10:46.700 terrible. I think that the current leadership doesn't express piety towards the Aesir.

05:10:55.920 I think they have abdicated a great deal of spiritual gravitas due to their complacency

05:11:03.420 and frankly laziness. I think there's probably a large number of their membership

05:11:09.820 that might be sincerely interested in Ausatru and in being loyal to the ISEER.

05:11:18.140 I would love for those people to join the Ausatru Folk Assembly.

05:11:22.520 I'd love to have a conversation with those folks.

05:11:26.320 Shoot, first and most importantly, I'd love to talk to them about Ausatru 0.98

05:11:30.580 and bring them home to the ISEER. 0.98

05:11:32.600 Secondly, I'd love to practice my Eastland school with them

05:11:36.560 and learn how to do it better. 0.80

05:11:39.820 But at the end of the day, the practice of Ausatru isn't us just yelling white power really loud.

05:11:50.180 That's really not what we do. 0.65

05:11:53.120 And if you go to any of our events, you'd know that.

05:11:56.440 I think that many of the Icelanders who practice Ausatru would probably be really moved by what we do.

05:12:06.360 I'd love to have them visit us.

05:12:09.820 I'd love to visit them personally.

05:12:12.400 I think we'd probably get along really, really well and could learn a lot.

05:12:16.300 It's unfortunate that forces of chaos in the world seek to divide us or cause problems amongst us that probably wouldn't exist organically.

05:12:30.420 I think people misunderstand

05:12:34.000 because you have to be a heterosexual white person

05:12:39.420 to practice house of truth and the house of folk assembly

05:12:43.100 doesn't mean that's our focus

05:12:46.740 that's just the requirements to get in the door

05:12:50.360 that's not what this is about

05:12:55.000 it's about loyalty and trough to the Iseer

05:12:58.700 And I think that any well-meaning person looking into it would know that.

05:13:06.580 And I'm hopeful that our people in this day and age have the discernment to see through the, I don't know, ill-intentioned traps of the media to get us to have problems amongst one another.

05:13:20.880 i was gonna say they didn't have um any of the american uh like scrubby groups because i even

05:13:32.000 mentioned it during the interview i said you know which one the last one they had has gone under

05:13:36.960 since right they've imploded because of embezzlement from their members trying to get a

05:13:42.400 hoff i i even brought that up i was like the one in the daily mail i don't know the the lard neck

05:13:49.440 beard kindred um they have completely collapsed within themselves because they were taking money

05:13:58.800 for a half and then somebody asked for an audit and you know i guess with that level of autism

05:14:05.440 someone's gonna track the numbers right all right so let's let's address this for a second i think

05:14:10.800 they were trying to raise ten thousand dollars for refurbishing a guy's barn to make it into a hoth

05:14:23.600 and that wasn't handled well i think he spent it on i don't know coors light and fritos or something

05:14:35.200 wasn't that guy the guy with the rabbi for a wife or something

05:14:38.000 I don't know anything about them

05:14:40.300 I don't know I don't want to sparage that guy 0.69

05:14:42.560 he was a fat dude and he wore 0.99

05:14:44.760 some kind of silly 0.99

05:14:46.860 it's like he took 0.95

05:14:48.640 he did some kind of arts and crafts

05:14:50.920 with a beer box

05:14:52.700 to make it look like

05:14:54.060 the silly high long 0.95

05:14:56.800 headdress 0.96

05:14:58.720 thing

05:14:59.840 oh you weren't joking about the beer box thing

05:15:02.460 no I wasn't and that was his like

05:15:04.720 staging 0.97

05:15:05.680 that's ridiculous on the face of it 0.93

05:15:14.560 as folks would say in the south bless their hearts 1.00

05:15:20.500 as i tell my daughter they are they're they're silly geese 0.99

05:15:27.440 Um, yeah, that's, that's, that's funny and ridiculous and laughable on Facebook. 0.98

05:15:38.000 So I'll say this, um, again, you guys have kind of, about an hour ago, we passed the

05:15:44.880 threshold to where we got past what we're talking about tonight.

05:15:50.300 And, again, the Walmart had an amazing sale on the Oakleaf brand of the wines.

05:16:01.700 Again, Oakleaf is a fine brand of fermented grape, but we're at a point where we're just kind of going at length.

05:16:11.820 So, I'll say a couple of things.

05:16:15.040 something that's been interesting for the astro folk assembly is to figure out

05:16:20.600 what to measure ourself against or how to find points of comparison

05:16:28.840 it is challenging but it's a point of pride that we've uh outstripped our detractors

05:16:42.800 one thing that is will forever stand as a testament to our founder

05:16:49.660 um stephen mcnellen house true today is either

05:16:58.220 a some kind of negative reaction to what he built or is a uh homage and a continuation of what he

05:17:11.340 built but the all-father reaching out and choosing him in 1968 and as our enemies attest

05:17:24.620 working with him to create modern house a true

05:17:34.780 i don't know that there could be a more profound testament to a man's life than that

05:17:41.340 And we find ourselves in a time, I think, when Svon and I joined or came home to House of Truth. 0.57

05:17:51.620 There was the Astro Folk Assembly, there was the Astro Alliance, there was the Troth, there was the Odenic Rite.

05:17:59.660 All of those other groups have not advanced and fallen into insolvency.

05:18:08.760 To my understanding, the odinic right has not existed in about 20 years.

05:18:17.580 The only people I've known who are a part of that are people who found it in prison and kind of claim it on the outside.

05:18:26.460 And I mean this honestly, are like Kevin Costner to the United States Postal Service in the postman.

05:18:34.900 like they pretend it still exists

05:18:37.500 but it doesn't really

05:18:38.680 and they don't have any interaction

05:18:40.540 with Heimgast

05:18:42.840 who I'm under the impression is still

05:18:45.060 the head of their court of Gothar

05:18:47.260 though no one's

05:18:49.120 heard from him in

05:18:50.380 20 years

05:18:51.960 it doesn't

05:18:55.240 really exist

05:18:56.140 the Astru Alliance

05:18:58.280 has completely cucked and gone

05:19:00.640 Universalist several times over

05:19:02.780 they don't really believe

05:19:04.780 that but they also aren't willing to stand on any principle and their current uh leadership

05:19:12.220 is someone who is a member of the afa but decided they didn't really have the

05:19:18.700 the courage or conviction to stand by our principles so they don't really function

05:19:25.420 anymore the troth has long since stopped being about alsatru has become just a uh woke

05:19:35.580 outlet about wokeism to be woke because of their wokeness

05:19:42.140 i mean many years ago before it was even fashionable to be woke fashionable to be woke 0.66

05:19:47.740 Like, I think 50% or more of their high read, which is their board of directors, was homosexual. 0.98

05:19:57.180 One of them was a Negress who was a Lokian and a Wiccan high priestess. 0.97

05:20:06.240 And I think a distant, like, third was some kind of house of truth title she claimed for their slash themself. 1.00

05:20:14.400 Yeah, so we've outpaced that

05:20:21.100 And there's not a lot to compare ourselves to

05:20:25.920 We look at local churches

05:20:29.880 And there's not really something to compare ourselves to

05:20:34.740 Because they exist in a very small area 1.00

05:20:37.320 But to try to compare ourselves to the Catholics 0.99

05:20:40.680 Or the Mormons or the Jehovah's Witnesses

05:20:43.320 that are you know in their hundreds of millions or in their billions is also a little bit

05:20:49.320 pretentious on our end so to find an analog to base our progress on is currently a challenge

05:21:00.280 i think the closest one and the one that rightly the media picks up on

05:21:05.320 is the australia in iceland and they have a really unique situation because

05:21:11.560 the tax structure in scandinavia you have a church tax so percentage of your chat your tax dollars

05:21:20.020 goes towards a church of your choosing and if you don't want it to go to

05:21:28.760 lutheranism which is the kind of the default setting but you also don't want it to go to

05:21:37.520 another Christian sect or to Islam or to Judaism, oftentimes atheistic people put it towards

05:21:48.160 Ausatru because that's fun and it's kind of a snubbing your nose at the Abrahamic faiths.

05:21:57.000 And so we have a strange thing where a very large number of their people would identify

05:22:04.300 that way for tax purposes, but we don't see

05:22:08.260 those crowds numbered in

05:22:10.620 photos of ritual or assemblages of Alcetor

05:22:16.380 there. We don't see that at all.

05:22:21.280 They made big news when they announced

05:22:24.000 plans for Hoth

05:22:26.100 shoot, back 15 to 20 years ago or so

05:22:32.440 and it still doesn't exist.

05:22:36.960 We are currently, as we mentioned earlier in the program,

05:22:40.580 trying to pay off the last $43,000 on our fourth half.

05:22:47.680 We have very solid plans for our fifth and our sixth half.

05:22:55.740 So it's very hard to find a point of comparison.

05:23:00.660 And I think that our detractors, there's an idea in Western media that when you do a positive story about something, you need to also have the counterpoint by their detractors.

05:23:16.920 We don't really function in a system to where that's an easily attainable paradigm.

05:23:25.580 So I think it makes those that want to do a story have to go to great lengths to figure that out.

05:23:34.840 We did a story in the Babylon Bee, which is a Sacramento area newspaper.

05:23:43.000 The guys interviewed me in a park in my local area.

05:23:47.820 But they said, man, I really wish we could do this story on the religion page that we used to do.

05:23:54.540 But my editor wants a story on racism

05:23:58.180 So this is where we are

05:24:00.500 Unfortunately, that's where the current Western media is

05:24:06.080 Maybe it won't be in 20 years

05:24:08.800 If it is or if it isn't

05:24:11.520 I hope that more people find us and come home to House of Truth

05:24:14.800 And we'll keep going

05:24:16.600 But I think a really good thing to say at this time is

05:24:20.440 If you're listening to this

05:24:23.240 and you are a heterosexual white person

05:24:26.780 and you desire a relationship to the

05:24:30.880 I see her, please join

05:24:35.100 the Ask True Folk Assembly at runestone.org

05:24:38.380 slash join. Take your time.

05:24:43.400 Ask a folk builder. Ask me. Ask

05:24:46.300 Speck English Fawn. Ask our producer Nick

05:24:50.700 who is a folk builder ask any of us any questions you might have we'd love to answer those and help

05:24:57.900 you out if we can we are doing some amazing things together we would love to be able to

05:25:06.860 do them with you we are stronger if we're all doing them together so we'd invite you if you're

05:25:14.300 thinking about it get off the fence get on the team we don't demand that day one

05:25:21.580 you have a deep faith in all the iser that's developed over time and over relationship

05:25:29.660 we do ask that you be sincere in your desire to join us and we'll see what we can do we hope that

05:25:36.940 it's something that enriches your life and brings you closer to our gods but if you're hearing this

05:25:44.300 If you're watching it, if you're listening to it later as a podcast,

05:25:48.520 if you're a heterosexual white person, join the Astro Folk Assembly.

05:25:53.360 We're doing awesome stuff.

05:25:55.400 We'd love to have you with us.

05:25:58.400 With that said, we have a couple more questions coming up.

05:26:02.740 A question on piety.

05:26:04.440 Since we owe the gods everything, we have, as a white people,

05:26:10.980 Does it make sense to give to the gods without asking for something in return?

05:26:16.760 Svon, what are your thoughts?

05:26:18.380 Yes, absolutely.

05:26:20.400 Short answer.

05:26:22.700 Actually, and I'm not going to go really long into this.

05:26:25.220 I would actually recommend that folks give their gift by pouring into the bowl and then taking that bowl and gifting it out.

05:26:34.040 And that being that, I think that is a huge thing that a lot of folks in Ausitru don't do enough of. And just having those devotionals of gifting. But yes, no, absolutely okay.

05:26:51.000 the whole idea of the gift for a gift stuff is it there is a gift for a gift but there's also

05:26:57.300 we are giving for the gift we have been given and it's already on their end given to us so we are

05:27:07.060 simply giving back um but a gift for a gift for a gift right right that that that cycle but eric

05:27:16.540 you are correct there's nothing wrong with doing i would actually say that should be the mainstay

05:27:22.780 of our faith and in piety and what we're doing is to give to the gods and we're not asking for

05:27:29.420 anything we are simply doing this as a testament to our to our the gods of our people and to our

05:27:38.300 ancestors and that's about it other than that it's willingness to move forward with them

05:27:43.660 of course we should do that 0.96

05:27:49.820 people have a really silly idea 1.00

05:27:54.460 and dare I say it is a Hebrew conception 1.00

05:27:59.280 of some kind of contractual

05:28:02.480 ah the gift demands a gift

05:28:04.860 because somebody way back when translated that way

05:28:08.940 in our faith there are reciprocal relationships the idea of sharing a gift

05:28:19.400 from yourself to someone else but look at you and a gift in your life

05:28:23.600 if you gift your child a gift and they don't give you a gift back on father's day 1.00

05:28:34.200 do you beat them no that's stupid you appreciate the gifts given to you by your children 1.00

05:28:45.880 and you give them gifts on their birthday or on important occasions 1.00

05:28:51.800 to make it contractual as if the gods owe you because you gave them a

05:28:57.400 A $25 bottle of mead, whereas they breathed into you the breath of life and goodly hue. 1.00

05:29:10.280 It's idiotic. 1.00

05:29:13.060 And without my drunken ramblings, it's on the face of it idiotic. 1.00

05:29:21.720 The gods have given bountifully to us in our lives. 1.00

05:29:27.160 We know that. We feel that in our bones.

05:29:31.780 Our ability to sit here on a Wednesday night for five and a half hours to prattle on about this is a testament to the gifts of our gods.

05:29:44.860 our pouring out a bottle of meat

05:29:51.300 or lighting 50 cents worth of incense

05:29:54.600 doesn't in any way square us with that

05:30:00.000 and if we're trying to do that

05:30:04.040 we will always lose

05:30:06.040 it's the thought that counts in gifting

05:30:11.080 as we know culturally

05:30:13.860 it is always appropriate just to pour out a gift of thanksgiving to our gods for the blessings

05:30:24.200 they've given us. That is a good thing to do. If you are so Semitic in your conception of

05:30:36.620 money changing 0.98

05:30:38.980 that you need

05:30:41.720 to nickel and dime

05:30:42.980 you will forever

05:30:44.760 be in debt to the 1.00

05:30:46.840 Isir 1.00

05:30:47.360 there is no 1.00

05:30:50.940 way that you can possibly

05:30:52.800 repay them for the gifts

05:30:54.720 they've given to you

05:30:55.900 so that road

05:30:58.540 goes nowhere

05:30:59.480 it's always right

05:31:02.140 to give someone a gift and tell them

05:31:04.560 thank you

05:31:05.940 We know that in life.

05:31:08.120 We know that in our relationships. 0.99

05:31:11.480 Extend that to the Aesir.

05:31:13.880 Don't make them something alien or something other.

05:31:17.700 No, they are your gods.

05:31:20.800 They are your eldest and most revered of possible kin.

05:31:26.340 There's nothing foreign.

05:31:27.920 There's nothing alien there.

05:31:29.720 freely give thanks

05:31:33.400 and appreciation for the things

05:31:35.500 you have

05:31:36.140 hail the ice

05:31:38.020 hail

05:31:39.260 I

05:31:41.220 I think you

05:31:44.260 well one I've never had the

05:31:46.180 gift of being to run into anyone

05:31:49.540 who

05:31:50.500 thinks that way I have given

05:31:53.400 this so I demand that or I

05:31:55.380 should get this thankful I've never met

05:31:57.320 anybody that would probably be the first time I ever get into a

05:31:59.480 fight during a blow but i but also too just like what you said when about the ties and suits and

05:32:07.320 shirts why would you afford this respectability to a judge but not to your own gods and you you

05:32:15.240 the judge the courthouse that's out of fear it that that that hit me that was a long time ago

05:32:21.320 when you said that and uh i don't know if you were saying that to me or to just in general with other

05:32:26.120 people i can't remember the situation but that hit me like a jackhammer was like holy moly 0.99

05:32:32.440 it's true you know ladies if you're gonna do up your hair and put on your makeup and look all hot 1.00

05:32:40.040 to go out for a job interview if you wouldn't dress like that for your husband or for your 1.00

05:32:48.600 in-laws what's wrong with you why do you care more about you know the exchange of money than you do

05:32:58.280 about presenting your best self to the people you care about and that's true for gentlemen

05:33:05.400 it's true for everyone you owe your best to the people you care most about we are so quick in this

05:33:14.680 world to present our very best self for the people that give the least craps about us in life

05:33:27.880 but we're very slow to present that extra effort and our best self to those who deserve it who

05:33:38.880 care about us. You know, if you want to show up looking your best for a job interview, why on

05:33:51.900 earth wouldn't you want to look your best for your husband or your wife or to show up at your

05:33:58.440 children's event or at your friend's event to be there for them? And if you want to show up for

05:34:08.400 your husband or your grandparents or your kids pta meeting how much more should you want to present

05:34:19.520 your very best self to our gods to the literal gods of our race who breathe life and goodly hue

05:34:31.480 and inspiration into you and your ancestors.

05:34:38.440 Often it's because we just don't think that far.

05:34:42.000 And that's okay.

05:34:43.120 We all start somewhere.

05:34:45.920 But once you wake up, don't go back to sleep.

05:34:53.440 You owe your best to your sons, your daughters, your husbands,

05:34:59.740 your wives, your mothers, your fathers, your grandparents, your gods,

05:35:06.820 than to your paymasters down at the mill or wherever the hell you work.

05:35:13.100 Give your best to those who deserve it.

05:35:21.720 All right. 0.95

05:35:23.100 Last question we have, and we'll see if I wax ridiculous

05:35:27.780 this and carry this even further into the evening. Do you think politics can sometimes

05:35:34.260 help promote Ausatru? Like if Iceland starts getting enrichment, he didn't use quotation

05:35:44.100 marks, but I know he means it, it will probably lead to an increase in right-wing politics.

05:35:51.220 It's funny that, which could open, excuse me, to more too real, excuse me, more too real

05:36:02.600 out of truth.

05:36:04.420 Svon, what do you, what do you say to that?

05:36:08.080 Well, I think one thing is when I spoke earlier, I said, we're not in the job of condemning

05:36:16.520 or what have you because we're not a political organization that is secondary to that we do

05:36:23.320 believe that our people have a right to governance and the choice of governance for themselves and

05:36:29.320 the good things that have come out of the hard work of our ancestors etc but and that includes

05:36:35.700 politics and how we lead our lives but in this case one of the things i would say is is politics

05:36:43.820 kind of are downstream from spiritual uh outlook and i think that what you're saying is um as they

05:36:56.540 catch downstream well they begin to kind of search upstream and i do believe that's a possibility

05:37:01.980 absolutely i know people who have who've done it um and but and they're still stuck in the

05:37:07.820 political realm and it's a hard time sometimes to tell them no this is a spiritual battle and

05:37:12.780 so on and so forth um and you know the the idea that like a lot of folks nowadays are trying to

05:37:21.340 push christianity as this is european white religion um but it's just the veneer over like

05:37:29.180 a semitic religion um they they try to push that as again bending politics with it

05:37:37.740 but it just it shows they they'll very quickly say like this is this is white this is the white

05:37:45.220 religion of christian in europe but your women need to cover their hair when they go into church 0.95

05:37:49.880 because yahweh get mad um silly geese i say silly geese but i was gonna say as a father i use the 0.95

05:38:01.160 term silly goose unironically oftentimes because it really becomes childish also hey angela i see

05:38:12.600 you we appreciate you i'm glad you joined us this morning uh maybe 2 30 for you and perhaps first

05:38:19.880 fawn yes only 11 what is it ah 11 35 for me are you lucky not quite that late

05:38:28.760 no i was gonna say one other thing about that is the enrichment of of iceland um as these as

05:38:38.080 things become more prevalent as white people realize that they are hated really for unsubstantiated

05:38:47.620 reasons or reasons cooked from the past and if they don't fit they're going to make it up

05:38:52.500 we know all that we're being too awesome or yes or for whatever reasons as people do experience

05:39:00.580 these things as they see and look into the religion of christianity or islam and they see

05:39:07.140 this foreign alien thing they may start to look around and i hope that's the biggest point is we

05:39:15.860 are a presence that they can find when they realize when they have that severance when they

05:39:22.260 when it enters their mind like how can there be not one government for the entire world but one

05:39:27.620 religion for the entire world that doesn't seem right to me and the moment they have that break

05:39:32.900 in severance if we are we have our if we have our together pardon my language and we are

05:39:41.300 professional and forward thinking we will be there and that will guide them home that's what

05:39:48.260 we need we can't have this backyard stuff that's why this is so important finn race i was in your

05:39:57.700 environs exactly once you said you are in the netherlands currently i was in ansterdam

05:40:03.620 in a layover one time it was the most palatial like shopping mall airport i've ever been in

05:40:12.820 um i appreciate all our europeans that are joining us on this i'll say this as far as politics and

05:40:20.660 things go i am proud of my race i am proud of the amazing things that we have brought to the world

05:40:31.700 I don't want to take away anything from anybody else's race that you guys do.

05:40:39.900 And if you guys make delicious food, I will celebrate you for it.

05:40:44.640 I like peanut butter.

05:40:46.760 Good job, guys.

05:40:49.280 Whatever the case might be, I appreciate it.

05:40:53.840 Realistically, we're just keeping it real.

05:40:56.800 That's what we're doing.

05:40:58.180 Keeping it 100, as the kids say.

05:41:01.700 No, we're not out to be opposed to anybody else, but we are absolutely out to advocate for ourselves.

05:41:13.720 To the degree of which that might be political, so be it.

05:41:20.180 But it does flow downstream of our faith.

05:41:24.380 I will say this as far as politically as we relate to other races of people.

05:41:31.700 racially I don't think we have political problems with most groups of people I think

05:41:39.080 that our biggest quote unquote political enemies are white leftists that are woke

05:41:49.100 I've never had a problem as a person who's always been very open about my views my values and my

05:41:57.920 racial pride. I've never had a problem with any other race of

05:42:02.480 people. I have friends that will embrace me with a hearty hug

05:42:08.460 every time I see them of different races. That's not the

05:42:14.380 issue. It's this mentally ill, woke crap that we face that's 1.00

05:42:22.460 the problem. I hope every race of people embraces their gods and makes the very best of themselves 1.00

05:42:31.280 that they can do, and I mean that. Politically, I do think that quote-unquote enrichment, which

05:42:38.860 means the injection of chaos and crime into white areas, that absolutely awakens people to the need 0.98

05:42:49.080 for uniting and advocating for our own interests we see that time and again like people think the 0.99

05:42:57.880 afa grows in homogenous areas surely this area that's 97 percent white will be ripe for afa 0.56

05:43:07.640 membership i hope so i would love to accept those people back home to our out our ancestral faith 0.97

05:43:15.240 absolutely a million percent what we see more often than that is folks that are forcibly

05:43:28.040 abused by um intentionally abusive immigration intentionally abusive

05:43:38.200 integration of different groups of people we see those people watch what their fathers

05:43:47.400 and grandfathers have built be destroyed and we see a desperation there of those people joining us

05:43:55.760 because life quote unquote the ironic use of the term enrichment

05:44:02.760 has awoken people who normally wouldn't have had those thoughts

05:44:09.660 to be concerned about what their future is,

05:44:13.460 what they're leaving for our children.

05:44:15.920 I'll say this, my father, who is a very, you know,

05:44:20.460 quote-unquote kosher, conservative, you know,

05:44:25.500 very middle-of-the-road conservative, as you might say,

05:44:30.620 he acknowledged to me remorsefully 0.98

05:44:35.860 this is the first generation of Americans

05:44:38.720 that he thought perhaps we are leaving

05:44:41.180 a worse world for our children

05:44:45.440 than we had

05:44:46.940 people are waking up

05:44:50.120 and unfortunately 1.00

05:44:54.660 it's white people that are doing a lot of the damage 0.99

05:44:58.180 with the woke mind and value corruption that they're doing. 0.97

05:45:05.660 But I want to assure you, the Astro Folk Assembly

05:45:08.580 doesn't define ourselves by being anti-anybody.

05:45:14.200 Anti-Loki, I suppose.

05:45:17.040 Anti-chaos, I suppose.

05:45:20.880 But no, we're also true.

05:45:23.500 We're not, I don't know, Roka Eki.

05:45:28.180 we're also true

05:45:30.500 we support

05:45:31.760 yeah we support 1.00

05:45:33.780 the Iseer we're loyal to the Iseer

05:45:36.580 we're proud

05:45:38.440 white men

05:45:40.440 and women who support

05:45:42.580 the advances

05:45:44.700 of our race throughout

05:45:46.320 the ages and

05:45:48.380 who love our gods and who

05:45:50.400 want our children to look like us

05:45:52.420 and to look like our fathers before

05:45:54.480 us

05:45:54.980 i really hope every other group of people on the planet feels the same way about their folk

05:46:03.160 and their gods um don't don't believe to quote public enemy don't believe the hype

05:46:11.860 um so there you go big ups to to professor griff and chug me

05:46:20.080 every time we do that i picture like whose head is exploding during that

05:46:28.600 probably a variety of variety of heads are exploding but not mine uh it's fun that's the

05:46:39.040 last question we have this evening do you have anything to leave the folk with until we talk

05:46:45.620 again no i don't it's and it's late here it's almost three o'clock but i i appreciate i still

05:46:52.100 i mean i have fun um every time we do this it's amazing and again the questions people everything

05:46:58.980 it's great i love doing this and we got a lot of stuff to cover so we're gonna keep doing this

05:47:07.140 i i would keep you up further by giving you obnoxious phone calls

05:47:12.420 but i might i might refrain assuming you answer my call in the coming days that's on you my friend

05:47:19.940 so everybody else here this is really a cool opportunity for spawn and myself to talk to you

05:47:27.700 about a variety of things that speak to our soul i'm very thankful i hope that victory never sleeps

05:47:38.980 advances the cause of the iser i hope that it advances also true i am thankful that it gives

05:47:47.380 me and people who i dearly love the opportunity to speak to you guys about the things that matter

05:47:55.380 to us to share of ourselves of our family of our experience um i hope you guys at least enjoy it

05:48:08.980 perhaps at most benefit from it in some way if you're listening and you're on the fence

05:48:17.940 sack up join the afa we want you guys here with us ladies you know what i'm saying you might be

05:48:25.300 not you might not be so uh equipped physiologically but you know the point that i'm making get on the

05:48:32.660 team um really and truly though if you're listening to this thank you i encourage all

05:48:41.380 of your questions if you ever have them please email them to bns at runestone.org

05:48:48.820 appreciate you guys listening never you know if you would have asked me

05:48:53.700 10 years ago or when i was growing up if i would have thought i would have had

05:48:58.500 the ability to speak to this size of audience about things that matter to me

05:49:07.140 i wouldn't have thought i had this opportunity and i'm blessed because of it

05:49:13.460 it is my sincere hope as i'm sure it responds that we advocate a position the icer approve of

05:49:21.940 on a mundane level we appreciate the opportunity to tell you about things we care about

05:49:27.940 I hope it all elevates us in a way that makes us generate the attention and hopefully the pride of our gods and our ancestors.

05:49:42.920 We are doing fantastic things.

05:49:47.020 We're doing those things together.

05:49:50.480 Your generosity of wallet, but also just of spirit and of participation.

05:49:57.940 are building something that our children and our grandchildren will grow in,

05:50:05.220 will appreciate, and will celebrate in the future.

05:50:08.960 I appreciate you guys.

05:50:10.700 I look forward to talking to you all next week.

05:50:13.740 Svon, you are amazing.

05:50:15.660 You're one of my very best friends.

05:50:17.600 You add so much to this.

05:50:20.600 I don't think you know because you don't see the emails that I see

05:50:23.740 on how much all of these people appreciate you.

05:50:27.420 and what you bring to the broadcast.

05:50:29.620 So thank you very much, my dear friend, Svon.

05:50:34.000 It is an absolute pleasure,

05:50:35.560 and it is a chance for us to get a chance to talk

05:50:38.020 and see each other while talking to each other.

05:50:41.440 You're a difficult man to get a hold of.

05:50:43.520 Some of these people know, but some of them don't.

05:50:46.400 Either way, the juice is always worth the squeeze.

05:50:50.340 Producer Nick.

05:50:53.880 Nick Rice, ladies and gentlemen, folk builder Nick Rice,

05:50:57.420 in Tennessee is top three hardest working members

05:51:07.740 of the Astro Folk Assembly easily.

05:51:11.240 My own hubris makes me try to fight that for one of the top spots.

05:51:20.140 Objectively, I don't know if I can really stand before that.

05:51:23.520 Nick works for us

05:51:26.440 22-7

05:51:31.220 I mean he's got to sleep at some point

05:51:34.880 but he is

05:51:35.980 our producer puts in an amazing amount of work

05:51:42.060 for our folk and our gods

05:51:43.700 doesn't get near the recognition that he deserves

05:51:48.840 hopefully that changes over time

05:51:51.960 but nick we appreciate you audience you guys are amazing you guys contribute so much

05:51:59.400 um we are in episode 145 the fact that you guys listen to me rant about stuff every week is uh

05:52:12.920 amazing and very much appreciated so everybody keep up the good work we love you guys i look

05:52:19.800 forward to talking to you next week we have an episode of adulting with alan where our law

05:52:25.560 speaker will tell us about things that will make us better versions of ourselves until then

05:52:32.760 hail the icier hell the folk hail the afa remember victory never sleeps

05:52:52.040 yeah i know system soft waiting on that theme music

05:53:22.040 Transcription by CastingWords

05:53:52.040 We'll be right back.

05:54:22.040 We'll be right back.

05:54:52.040 Thank you.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - April 17, 2025

4⧸16⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 145 - Völsunga Saga, Part III

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