00:19:49.300I think that it's a commonality in all peoples when they speak about their legends in relation to clans or groups or regions, and there are rising kings and their children.
00:20:08.840And the connection to the divine, whether it's Lord Odin or whether it's the holy fray or and the possibilities of other gods, perhaps under different names.
00:20:22.040And we don't quite know, you know, tracing the lineage back to Saxonaut or Ehrman or Ehrman, which generally people will say it's all that, you know, that that's Lord Odin.
00:20:36.500We don't fully know, but that connection back is important, but I think also that the audience knew that the doubling up of that caused problems.
00:20:51.380I believe that it was already taboo, and that was the gasp of it.
00:20:58.220It was to get a reaction out of the audience.
00:21:02.220The other thing is, I've been working on just trying to find connection points. I think that, so the Arthurian legends, if they are of Britannic origins of the Roman era, then they most certainly would have been influential or brought to via story into the Nordic or Germanic culture.
00:21:27.940and i think that our ancestors the different branches of arians borrowed from each other
00:21:33.580the other ways it could be the other way around we just don't know if there was an older form of
00:21:39.260this story since it clearly has connections to the migration periods which is also roman um
00:21:45.920that they they influenced each other in some way and that was the same thing i i had brought up
00:21:52.580about the story of um harbar where lord thor and lord odin have a battle across a river and it is
00:22:01.700very reminiscent to the slavic stories between perun the striker and velez the lord of magic
00:22:10.340underworld so i i feel that a lot of people don't look at the stories as stories they look at them as
00:22:18.740academic ventures in in writing but don't ever consider what the stories attend intending to do
00:22:28.100how the audience um would react why things are being said the way they are and also how different
00:22:37.220groups interacting with each other would have influenced each other with story dynamics that
00:22:44.340they liked um so that's that's something interesting just to think about i'm sure
00:22:52.020there's probably an academic who's may have written extensively on this but
00:22:58.820so the other thing before we also get started there's one other thing we spoke um earlier about
00:23:04.660helgi hundings bana and held the helgi the bane of hunting he is a son of sigmund so after sigmund
00:23:16.420settles down he gets revenge his sister passes sinful filthy is his right-hand man he settles
00:23:23.300down and he has many children and one of the children is helgi hundingsbane or just helgi
00:23:30.340before he gets the revenge on hunding um his stories we have already covered two of those
00:23:38.840large um bodies of work and there is a connection there and helgi becomes his own uh superhero
00:23:48.360uh much like if we were to read stories about jason or um odysseus or hercules there is these
00:23:59.720splitting of stories with connections but going down into their own rabbit holes so right before
00:24:08.440we left in chapter 8 and chapter 9 there was this establishment of helgi being an offspring of
00:24:15.380sigmund and leaning into the a good part of his story and then it in this chapter it cuts away
00:24:24.820and we start to move back to the volsungs and what they're doing so the the eight and nine are kind
00:24:30.660of intermission from the story after so much craziness happens um so uh chapter 10 the ending
00:24:45.460of Sinfjalti, Sigmund's son. So the Volsungs fare back home and have gained great renown by these0.89
00:24:57.540deeds, but Sinfjalti betook himself to warfare anew, and therewith he had sight of an exceedingly0.97
00:25:06.280fair woman and yearned above all things for her but that same woman was wooed also of the brother
00:25:15.200of borghild the king's wife so a couple of things one sin filthy is the distilled volsung war power
00:25:32.080and it was stated earlier sin filthy is built for war he's he's uh his gift of being double
00:25:41.680is that he is vicious he is um almost like a berserker and and he did run with his father
00:25:51.640wolfgang um and it seems to have affected him and he carries that with him and after his father
00:26:00.960marries again um that his queen has a brother named uh sorry i actually they don't state the
00:26:13.040name yet um but borghild has a brother and he is wooing a woman that's sin filthy suddenly
00:26:22.980he sees her and he is absolutely enamored with her. And he is not a man necessarily to trifle
00:26:31.940with. He is a very, very scarred man from birth for obvious reasons. So he is wooed also by the
00:26:45.320brother of Borghild, who is the king's wife. And this matter they fought out betwixt them,
00:26:51.000And Sinfjolti slew that king. So he was also a king, her brother. And thereafter, he harried far and wide. So the usage of the word harried, it survives in our word, ein herjar, ones who, in essence, it means to attack or to raid.
00:27:16.580but it also means to ascend poetic words in old morse have double meanings vowel can mean slaying
00:27:24.800or uh you know to slay and then vowel can also mean chosen or to be chosen or to be the one
00:27:34.940choosing um in this case harried survives in that sense of being one who is elevated one who's being
00:27:44.280an anointed and also one who attacks or is of soldierliness in our language it mainly survives
00:27:54.000in the sense of um flying and that's why like in the marine corps they have a jet called the harrier
00:28:01.340and there's a harrier falcon or hawk i believe and um the the other usage of the word for fighting
00:28:09.520and uh kind of like if wolves are biting at the hind legs of a large animal that it would be said
00:28:16.240that they are harrying the animal um nipping and biting slowly uh to tear it down and um
00:28:24.380that has kind of been lost so here he says you know that he's he after he slays Borghild's brother
00:34:14.460A lot of people, I'm trying to think how to approach this.
00:34:17.240I apologize for the disjointed nature of it.
00:34:23.760We don't ever want to mistakenly define Al-Satru as the opposite of Christianity or the opposite of something else.
00:34:34.420And in the early days of the modern reforging of Al-Satru, there's this.0.70
00:34:40.680oh, Christians forgive, and I was sure I never forgive. That's ludicrous. There is a nobility0.91
00:34:47.720in being able to extend somebody a kindness, let something slide, pay a fine that maybe you don't
00:34:57.000have to pay, but out of a generosity of spirit. The idea of generosity of spirit is within our
00:35:05.680virtues certainly and is a noble thing to do and is honestly kind of a nobility flex that you're
00:35:12.600so well off you are able to part with you know part with some of that wealth in order to square
00:35:22.720a debt or make somebody feel whole or make someone who you acknowledge in some way feel compensated
00:35:30.180or feel honored so both of those pieces of our also true concept of justice are reflected in
00:35:38.500this story and i wanted to point that out well she listens to him and she says so seeing that
00:35:54.900she might not get her own way in this i.e him being outlawed um she says to him uh thy will
00:36:04.900in this matter oh my lord for it is seemly so to be uh seemly again is the germanic word for
00:36:14.660honorable it's an honorable thing um for her to accept it and for her for him to
00:36:23.700uh lend it out the seniorness is again that correct action and so she says she will take it
00:36:33.140and she holds a funeral uh feast for her brother by the aid in the council of the king
00:36:41.220and makes ready all things there over in the best of wise and bade thither many great men
00:36:47.620at the feast lorghild the queen bear the drink of the folk so she's carrying the horn to
00:36:56.740the the high table there is the high seat and she has a seat amongst them but for her to ladle0.94
00:37:07.060or to receive a horn from a like a maid maiden and then bring it forth for each of the people0.97
00:37:17.460in the high seat to to uh to drink and um at the feast the queen bears the drink to the folk0.68
00:37:28.340And she comes over against Sinfjolti with her horn and says, fall to now and drink, fair stepson.
00:37:37.540And I thought it was interesting that the translation for stepson in Old Norse is stupsonr, stepsonr, stepson.
00:37:51.060So I didn't realize the usage of that word would be the same.
00:37:58.340then he took the horn to him and looked therein and said nay for the drink is charmed drink
00:38:06.500then said sigmund give it unto me then therewith he took the horn and drank it off but the queen
00:38:14.500said to sin fealty why must other men needs drink thine ale for thee and she came again the second
00:38:22.580time with the horn and said come now drink and goaded him with many words and he took the horn
00:38:30.820and said guile is in the drink and thereon sigmund cried out give it unto me so this is
00:38:38.500the second horn and we know kind of again arian um mythic cycles and purposes it's the three number
00:38:50.500is going to be a big one so um again the third time she came to him so his father sigmund takes
00:39:00.660it drinks the second one and again the third time she came to him and bade him to drink off his drink
00:39:06.740and if he had the heart of a volsung then he uh then he laid hand on the horn but said venom is
00:39:15.780therein nay let the lip strain it out then oh son quoth sigmund in essence i've always
00:39:24.020taken that to be a translation that like let let your mustache strain it out um
00:39:32.900but he says yeah no you'll you'd be able to to stop it or you know ill will it um
00:39:42.180against that it wouldn't be able to move against you and um and by then he was exceedingly drunk
00:39:51.400from drinking the two horns before and thereof spoke he in that wise so he's speaking crazy
00:40:00.140because he's too in but sin fealty drinks and straight away he fell down dead on the ground
00:40:08.020Sigmund rose up and sorrowed nigh to death over him
00:40:13.000Then he took the corpse in his arms and fared away to the wood
00:40:17.460And went till he came to a certain Firth
00:40:21.420Now for those, again, following in from stories before
00:40:25.300Firths are fjords, the English equivalent
00:40:29.820And then he saw a man in a little boat
00:40:33.880And that man asked if he would, if he would be wafted by him over the firth. So he meets a ferryman. And, and clearly we, we see this again, another, there we're leading into the mythical and the divine.
00:40:55.460so uh let's see sorry i always lose it when i do this and then he saw a man in a little boat and
00:41:06.260that man asked if he would be wafted by him over the firth and he said yes there too but so little
00:41:12.400was the boat that they might not all go at once so the corpse was first laid therein while sigmund
00:41:19.400went by the first side but therewith the boat and the man vanished away before sigmund's eyes
00:41:28.680so lord odin takes sin filthy and the connection between lord odin as a psychopomp in comparison
00:41:39.240to other aryan branches of faith is well established and i think this is also something
00:41:46.040that our ancestors more or less knew i'm not saying that every one of our ancestors had a
00:41:52.440theological grounding in in these concepts but once it was spoken
00:42:00.360they most likely knew or there was someone going that's lord olden that's taken him
00:42:06.040um we see this again he's so intertwined throughout the story with the sword being
00:42:15.240placed into the tree here and then again and i don't want to spoil it but he comes
00:42:20.600again in an involvement with sigmund um so his presence is ever pervading paralleling
00:42:31.160this journey and he consistently comes in and out and i think our ancestors knew that that was um
00:42:38.920absolutely the the cameo of the gods coming in and out just flavored it into enough to where
00:42:47.800they were just like oh oh this is gonna be good like this is gonna be epic um so thereafter
00:42:54.520sigmund turned back to home turned back to home and drave away the queen so he
00:43:01.320is now enraged he drives her out and little after she died so they don't story-wise really follow
00:43:11.940into and he doesn't get revenge he just outlaws her but sigmund the king yet ruled his realm
00:43:18.560and is deemed ever the greatest champion and the king of the old law that's a another great point
00:43:27.460is uh al-serigo they and i were talking about kingship and where exactly the view of kingship
00:43:34.660and crowns and and things of that nature um i think that there was influence coming up
00:43:43.620uh especially when they they juxtapose their view of kingship uh to say uh the way that hellenics
00:43:52.660did it with an emperor and this is noted um even when the king king odaker becomes king of italy
00:44:02.340he purposely says he's not an emperor he is a king and he will rule from ravenna and he rules
00:44:10.340based on germanic dictates versus hellenistic dictates and so i think that that part there is
00:44:19.220referencing that that uh sigmund rules um in the more germanic sense and and what that would mean
00:44:28.340really is kind of like what tacitus you know writes about is that the germanic folk would let
00:44:35.220uh people of the court wear weapons um and uh speak freely um and that the the king is a warrior
00:44:46.980he's brought up from warriorship whereas an emperor might be uh you know more of a logistic
00:44:53.860minded person or someone who works their way to the top through cunning um and there's this
00:45:01.940air of difference that i think is re-emphasized ever so often through the lore i'd like to
00:45:08.660mention a couple of things before we move to chapter 11.
00:45:11.460i think this is really important and again those of you just joining us we will absolutely get to
00:45:21.100the story and it'll take as long as it takes but the idea behind it um on these episodes is for
00:45:27.160spawn and i to illuminate points and illustrations that are fundamental to our to our religion here
00:45:35.040And one of the things that is interesting, a lot of the time in the early days of the reforging of Ausatru, there is a disproportionate focus on democracy.
00:45:55.260democracy there is an association with Icelandic democracy as if that were the
00:46:03.420ultimate expression of also true governance that's not the case there's a lot of right
00:46:10.260ways to do this there's a lot of ways to govern that are substantiated or are expressed by our
00:46:20.880ancestors but one of them that is extremely valid and extremely ancient is the idea of kingship
00:50:00.000If a fight happened, who's going to win?
00:50:02.080who do we think is you know the more chad of the two whatever that is we all experience that as a
00:50:09.760man and it sound it can sound silly but i think everyone who's a man on here knows that that's
00:50:15.680a thing you do when you meet other men you test them out you look them in the eye you give each
00:50:20.080other a handshake you sense who has the gravitas to lead and who has the gravitas to follow and
00:50:29.840you kind of piece that together and there's rank and protocol and social situations where
00:50:36.240that might be skewed but you guys kind of know amongst each other and people act accordingly
00:50:42.320and again that is different you may have a young man that obviously could you know
00:50:48.800beat the pants off an old man but they see within them a a presence when we talk about the uh
00:50:59.840the other self, to a degree, when we talk about the hammer, we're talking about your projected
00:51:08.060sense of self that goes beyond your physical limitations. And I think, you know, many of us
00:51:15.840have seen that when you look at an aged veteran or an aged, you know, in our time, an aged athlete
00:51:23.900sometimes somebody that you know you can tell that that guy is somebody and you see that and
00:51:32.380that presents itself in a very powerful way when we talk about royalty especially in in sagas
00:51:41.500that's why often there will be somebody of you know humble birth that seems like a nobody but
00:51:46.620people will react and see that they have a regal bearing to them they have something and then you'll
00:51:51.100find out that you know secretly they're a foundling and they they trace their line back to some kings
00:51:57.180because their regality is is manifest in the way they carry themselves and in the projected image
00:52:07.100that they have and so they've got to like back discover like hey who is this guy because we know
00:52:12.780he's someone um and also i want to acknowledge you guys are generous and amazing we have raised
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00:52:26.540thank you guys for that we have folk builder alexandra casto who bought us three coffees
00:52:32.220that's a fifteen dollar donation thank you alexander we've got bill in tennessee that
00:52:37.980donated sixty five dollars to the new york's off uh payoff appreciate it bill thank you
00:52:44.860and excuse me we have sarah who donated 42 to the new york's half fund and we definitely
00:52:51.740appreciate that thank you sarah you guys are awesome you guys continue to amaze and it's much
00:52:57.580much appreciated yeah the um the one thing that i would like to add to that is that um
00:53:09.260heimdall comes to the folk he comes to great-grandmother great-grandfather so the
00:53:20.520the generation that is um in the story represented by great-grandmother great-grandfather
00:53:28.300and he slowly builds and finally under father and mother their exalted son the one that is focused
00:53:35.920on the one that has taught the runes is his name is king so king is one of the oldest forms and
00:53:43.040titles really to mean leader um and that leadership is attained um in different ways of different
00:53:53.440forms of governance but our ancestors going all the way back the primary form of governance was
00:53:59.600conquest and the reason why iceland is a democratic sense is because they were one dealing with
00:54:09.440harold the fair hair and he had a very bad uh overall view the way they were looking at him
00:54:17.920and so i think they were coming over there with that rejection in mind the other was there was
00:54:23.040no conquest of of iceland there was a divvying out of land and they were attempting to keep the peace
00:54:29.840so that there would be no wars that there would be no conquest and that's ultimately what led to it
00:54:35.360i think that the people of iceland that moved there initially were very familiar with the
00:54:40.800concepts of kings and conquest but not only that they go back to norway or to england often to
00:54:49.440serve kings because they understand kings are something special they don't have their own king
00:54:55.680they exist kind of outside of that but they seek the ser being in service of a king because that
00:55:02.320was you know you weren't a king yourself that was the ultimate for any warrior is to be in service
00:55:09.280of a great king um the other thing is and we're extremely grateful because we encounter our folk
00:55:19.600encounter literacy as the establishment of iceland happens it is a flourishing it is a golden age
00:55:31.760amongst our folk of poetry of song of writing of storytelling so that's where we get so many of our
00:55:40.080our things but we need to never lose sight and also true that also true has existed
00:55:46.320since the dawn of our folk it's existed since the ice age it's existed since hyperborea and
00:55:54.640And just because the last glimpses that we see before it was overtaken by Christianity were of an Icelandic flavor, it's not to mean that that's the be-all, end-all of our faith.
00:56:11.240um there's a lot you could learn but i often wonder you know what would future anthropologists
00:56:20.040think christianity is when they uncover all these you know gangster rappers with big
00:56:25.240jesus pieces on their their album covers you know tupac's not saint thomas aquinas
00:56:31.960but he's got a big you know bedazzled jesus swinging around his neck
00:56:37.160so it's never we do ourselves a disservice if we only see this one sliver of time or people who
00:56:45.820happen to also be also true but for example people think that i was true equals vikings
00:56:52.100the vikings were also true and in that part of the world at that time period the prominence of
00:57:01.440being an armed raider was at the forefront but generations earlier there are farmers who are
00:57:10.960ousatru there are kings in cities that are ousatru there are you know blacksmiths that are
00:57:19.120ousatru there are fishermen who are ousatru there were charioteers on the the caucuses who are
00:57:25.680ousatru there's a much bigger tapestry of what makes our folk than this very late example that0.69
00:57:33.840we see in the viking age which again nuances everything vikings are awesome i don't think
00:57:40.240anybody on here would contend that they are not they are awesome and they capture our spirit and
00:57:46.080our imagination in a really special way we also need to keep in mind that there is more to it than
01:13:21.640and now each day was the feast better and more glorious than the day before.
01:13:27.860But thereafter, Sigmund went back home to Hunland,
01:13:32.160and King Ailemi, his father-in-law, with him,
01:13:36.640and King Sigmund betakes himself to the due of ruling his realm.
01:13:42.920so at this point it's an it's worth noting like king ailemi is now this is his son-in-law but
01:13:51.480king sigmund's older in age so they're they're a lot closer in age and he goes to like look
01:13:59.480at king singman's realm he gets a chance to kind of see from within the court um
01:14:06.920And Sigmund goes back to ruling. But King Lingi, who is the son of Hunding, and again, there's this establishment Hunding to Helgi and the son of Helgi to the father of Helgi.
01:14:26.220So there's a crossover there, which again, I think our ancestors looked at poetic movement and reflection. They looked at the way things were placed. They looked at the commonalities between things, the polaric sense, starting all the way back with Nivelheim and Muspelheim.
01:14:50.000There's always this sense of balance. There's a sense of spiritual movement and that those movements have power, which is why cosmology is so important and why I always harp on, you know, moving away from incorrect thoughts where these are notions and theories that people are placing out there.
01:15:12.140Like, that Lord Odin is the only god that is of rightful to the sky, but, you know, Lord Frey was also held to kingship, and so was, you know, like, many other gods mentioned, and so it just kind of seemed strange.
01:15:31.620or that uh yggdrasil is uh you know below the base is below the worlds and the roots are in the
01:15:39.180underworld and that kind of stuff these are those throw off a balance of movement that takes place
01:15:45.180throughout all of our stories you have to be careful um and you need to try to find the
01:15:52.320patterns when you can find them and in this case helgi's or sigmund's son helgi kills
01:16:01.040uh king lingi's father and now the son king lingi is going after king sigmund
01:16:09.760and there's a kind of that dualistic pattern um
01:16:12.960but king lingi and his brethren gather an army together to fall upon sigmund for as in all
01:16:24.640matters they were want to have the worser lot so did this bite the sorest of all and they would
01:16:32.240feign prevail over the might and the pride of the volsungs so they came to hunland and said sent
01:16:40.800king sigmund word how they would not steal upon him and that they deemed he would scarce
01:16:48.240slink away from them so sigmund said he would come and meet them in battle and drew his power
01:16:55.840together but hiortis his new bride was born in the wood with a certain bond mate and mighty wealth
01:17:04.720went with her and there she abode the while they fought a couple things about this this stanza here0.80
01:17:13.760they're basically saying if he's a volsung he's not gonna run but they have arrived at its land
01:17:21.120to fight a war and this was on everyone's mind and the audience was already kind of seeing this coming
01:17:27.280because there was two trying to get curtis's hand but the fact that he
01:17:35.360sends hordis with a a servant woman into the woodlands with all the wealth is kind of a
01:17:43.040foreshadowing to um the the the might and the power as he's older he's now taking
01:17:51.280these precautions because he might not win um and he kind of he has that feeling that
01:17:58.000this is a great cost or it could be a great cost now the vikings rushed from their ships
01:18:06.400in numbers not to be born up against but sigmund the king and ailemi set up their banners and the
01:18:14.560horns blew up to battle but king sigmund let blow the horn his father erst had and cheered on his
01:18:23.520men to fight but his army was far the fewest so both sides gather and um they are leading as
01:18:36.080these battles are fighting and i i love the you know the blowing horn is is sounded um
01:18:44.560Now was the battle fierce and fell, and though Sigmund were old, yet mostly heartily he fought, and was ever the foremost of his men. No shield or birney, and remember birney is a chainmail shirt, might hold against him.
01:19:02.580he cleaved through shields he cleaved through chain mail and he went ever through the ranks of
01:19:09.460his foe men on that day and no man might see how things would fare between them many an arrow and
01:19:17.880many a spear was aloft in the air that day and so his spy rights wrought for him um remember spy
01:19:28.920is uh to be able to see or foretell the um uh actually let me let me double check before i
01:19:40.480say that because spy spy craft is to be able to see into the future um
01:19:47.560spy rights you know i've always taken it to be um uh counsel or divinatory counsel of your
01:20:01.340court but i'm and i i don't know if um nick if you could look up a little bit on that just to
01:20:07.940make sure i'm not miscalculating but um spy s-p-a-e what's the second part of the word you
01:20:14.940looking at dash rights w-r-i-g-h-t-s and i'm wondering too it could be a misspelling of or
01:20:23.340it could like be spy whites or you know uh spirits of foreseeing but they tell him he will get
01:20:33.180uh they wrought for him that he got no wound
01:20:36.380and the other part of this is the mentioning of the spy or spow um craft being wrought being shaped
01:20:50.200so the other kind of level of this is that he's he has members of his court who are able to see
01:20:58.360into the future and forge an outcome uh kind of like wrought iron uh they are forging that he
01:21:10.280will have no wound so he says and so his spy rights wrought for him that he got no wound and
01:21:20.840none can tell over the tale of the of those who fell before him and both his arms were red with
01:21:28.760blood even to the shoulders so that i love that so much this this whole paragraph is profound um
01:21:41.960um yeah my understanding of that is that his spell spell sorcerers were able to you know
01:21:57.740magically shield him or enchant him to maximize you know a good destiny with that um you're
01:22:08.000um right w-r-i-g-h-t that happens to be my mother's maiden name um is is just a word that
01:22:14.400means maker of or builder of and if you look in the uh old norse on the side next it's actually
01:22:20.320the word they use is uh uh spout this year oh yes and they translated it to spout rights
01:22:28.960so maker of the future or yeah weaver of the future his prophecy crafters yeah his future
01:22:36.160you know goddesses slash priestesses i think that you know that is part of the enchantment
01:22:45.140of this time you know just as he was at one point in time donning the skin of a wolf and
01:22:51.040traveling about as a as a oofsark he has his you know sorceresses magically protect him as he's
01:23:01.720you know old in years i guess long in the tooth as a werewolf but he's out there you know
01:23:09.640shoulder deep in the blood of his foes
01:23:14.600yeah and i was looking over in the norse translation and i couldn't find
01:23:18.680where they had utilized it but yes dc are any spirit that has the ability to uh
01:23:27.880twist the fate. The DCR of mortal men can twist the fate of their descendants if they don't give
01:23:37.760homage to the gods, if they don't give homage to their ancestors, if they do something to bring0.99
01:23:43.100dishonor to the family, they turn off that hominia, that direct link that they have to the ancestors
01:23:50.540There's dwelling beyond the veil, but also, too, Holy Freyja is referred to as Vanadis.0.97
01:23:59.800She is a shaper of fate for the Vanir gods of the middle world.
01:24:07.040We've talked a lot about in our lore, there are certain terms that have a very broad meaning, like alf.0.98
01:24:14.040Yeah, it means elves. It also means spirits. It also means a variety of things.
01:24:19.980Jotunar are sometimes, you know, these chaotically evil malevolent forces.0.77
01:24:26.460Sometimes they're ancient sources of primal wisdom.0.88
01:24:30.800Sometimes they are largely unconscious and just natural things put in motion without a lot of will or forethought.
01:24:40.880Other times they're beings of great cunning and magic.
01:24:49.040You have a big variety there with the Deesir. It's the same word can be applied to goddesses, to priestesses, to the guardian female spirits.
01:25:03.960i think the point of commonality as von mentioned is they are shapers of shapers of fate or certainly
01:25:10.520shapers of the numinous and i think also the commonality is it's an explicitly female term
01:25:17.720if you are a vidki you are doing something different it may have a similar effect it may
01:25:23.080work in in similar channels with similar things but uh dc is specifically female and you'll notice
01:25:33.080you'll see it used for both goddess and honored female ancestor and even at times
01:25:42.200you know magically potent priestesses yeah it's funny well it's funny that there are
01:25:50.040goddesses amongst the vanir it's a tribe of gods but amongst them freya is the vanadice
01:25:58.200yeah and then more near are referred to as house or the twisters of fate even for the gods as they
01:26:09.480are part of after slaying emir they start the process but they remain amongst the gods which
01:26:19.960is a very interesting thing and they stay there at the base of ingress at the well of earth for
01:26:27.240the gods to dictate into the rest of the world um kind of from above so that's super interesting
01:26:35.960the uh also alf um even uh tolkien with in reference to the character gand alf being an elf
01:26:46.040of the wand while also in um uh the saga in helding helgi hundingspan they're referred to as
01:26:54.520ship elves so the connection of an elf an elf being um a being that is synthesized or completely
01:27:06.680um integrated into the element before them leos elf that's a being that's synthesized with light
01:27:17.080and the other interesting thing is dsir has more of a a very interesting willful aspect they're
01:27:26.360twisting they're turning they're changing whereas alvar seemed bound by duty towards the thing and
01:27:33.960it becomes poetic in the sense that you know if he's a sword alf he he is bound to the sword he's
01:27:42.600a man of you know of living by the sword so it becomes very poetic but it is an interesting
01:27:49.560um verb or like verb to adjective kind of usage in that i think that's very interesting i just
01:27:58.680now kind of i'm hitting that and i found the translation it does say yeah it's about decent
01:28:03.720it's just in the paragraph above and i was trying to find it in the other one but i mean he has his
01:28:11.240the ladies of his court they're they're saved corners they're they're um and they
01:28:21.960they rot that they will change it so that he gains no wounds so he goes through and he's
01:28:27.960clefting shields he's he's piercing chainmail shirts and he's just covered in blood all the
01:28:35.480way up to his shoulders as he's just wrecking everyone despite his elder age
01:28:44.200but now when s oh excuse me that's another thing they're also setting something up0.57
01:28:50.840i'm not spoiling it but remember if he's got these um these spoudy sir who are
01:28:59.000they're making sure he's protected and he goes forth then it would take an enormous
01:29:05.160amount of will to supersede that uh if if if orlog is is flowing out and then these spoudies are
01:29:17.160like use their power in order to twist the the fate around him it would take something more
01:29:25.160or more uh more of dominion to supersede that uh it wouldn't be like another human
01:29:33.160or another group of Spaudi said, it would have to be even more.0.74
01:37:13.660perhaps you would be blessed if you you know if i healed you perhaps you would be blessed in the
01:37:19.940the duty of gaining vengeance for me but the king says that is fated for another man behold now
01:37:28.340though art great with a man child so you are pregnant and this is a the a big reveal that
01:37:38.480would be everyone he says you know behold you're you are bearing our child nourish him well and
01:37:46.540with good heed and the child shall be the noblest and most famed of all of our kin and keep well
01:37:53.920with all the shards of the sword so he hands over the three pieces of gram to his wife and says
01:38:03.980Take this, take our child that's in your belly and bring him upright.1.00
01:38:10.800He will be the noblest of Volsungs.1.00
01:38:17.800Keep with all the shards of the sword.1.00
01:38:20.060Thereof shall a goodly sword be made, and it shall be called Gram.
01:38:26.440And our son shall bear it and shall work many great works therewith,
01:38:32.100Even such as eld shall never minish, even as those that have come before us have never seen, or the likes of which have never been seen, is basically what that means.
01:38:47.680And for his name shall abide and flourish as long as the world shall endure, and let this be a now for thee.
01:38:58.820But now I grow weary with my wounds, and I will go see our kin that have gone before us.
01:39:09.420So Hjordas sat over him until he died at the day dawning.
01:39:16.400And then she looked, and behold, there came many ships sailing to the land.
01:39:22.400Then she spake to her handmaiden, let us now change raiment and be thou called by my name and say that thou art the king's daughter.
01:39:35.480So she suddenly realizes her danger is not over. She's pregnant and she tells her handmaiden, we will change clothing and you will go by my name and I will go by your name and pretend to be your handmaiden in order to protect the child.
01:39:58.960and thus they did but now the vikings behold the great slaughter of men there and see where two
01:40:07.500women fare away thence into the wood and they deemed that some great tidings must have befallen
01:40:13.520and they leaped ashore from out of their ships now the captain of these folk were known was
01:40:21.540called Alf, son of Hjallprek, king of Denmark, who was sailing with his power along the land.
01:40:30.840So they came into the field amongst the slain and saw how many men lay dead there. Then the king
01:40:36.940bade go seek for the women and bring them thither. And they did so. And he asked them what women they1.00
01:40:44.440were. And little as the thing seems like to be, the bondmaiden answered for the twain and said
01:40:52.700that telling of the fall of King Sigmund and King Eilidhi and many other great men and who they
01:41:01.960were with all who had wrought the deed. So she tells who did it as well. And then the king asks
01:41:09.460if they wanted where the wealth of the king was bestowed and then sends the bond maiden
01:41:17.380it may well be deemed that we know full surely thereof and therewith she guides them to the place
01:41:25.940where the treasure lay now this is interesting because they've just confirmed that these uh
01:41:32.340new arrivals are not their enemies and immediately they are attempting to gain
01:41:43.860with them because with that comes the possibility of vengeance against the um the aggressors and
01:41:52.260get back um at killing uh for her you know the slaying of her father and her husband
01:41:58.500um and therewith she guides them to the place where the treasure lay and there they found0.76
01:42:04.680exceedingly great wealth so that men deem that they have never seen so many things of price
01:42:11.800heaped upon themselves in one place all this they bore to the ships of king alf and hordis
01:42:20.100and the bondmaid went with them therewith these sail away to their realm and talk how that surely
01:42:27.440on that field had fallen the most renowned of kings so the king sits by the tiller king alf
01:42:37.040and he's sitting uh near the steer but the women abide in the in the foc'sle up at the front
01:42:45.960but talk he had with the women and held their council of much account in such wise the king
01:42:54.460came home to his realm with great wealth and he himself was a man of exceed a man exceedingly
01:43:01.500goodly to look upon but when he had been but a little while at home the queen his mother
01:43:09.020asked him why the fairest of the two women had fewer rings and less worthy attire so we're we're
01:43:18.460getting some unsaid things is that the bond maiden clearly does not look of of regal stock
01:43:26.300and a beauty and she's not wearing um it doesn't make sense the way that they're
01:43:33.020they're set up like this and so when they refer to him as king alf but when he comes home no he's
01:43:41.420still he's prince he's a prince of uh the king of denmark and his mother still rules there and
01:43:48.060she's like why is the one that looks noble dressed as a as a handmaiden um and he answers i too have
01:44:02.140i too have misdoubted that she is little like a bond woman and when we first met it's1.00
01:44:09.500in seemly wise she greeted noble men lo now we will make trial of the thing so she has the
01:44:18.420understanding of noble speech and she conducts herself in a noble way and he's like we're gonna
01:44:23.240we're gonna sort this out because i think something's going on so on a time as men sat
01:44:29.620at at the drink the king sat down to talk with the women and said in what wise do ye note the
01:44:37.440wearing of the hours when as night grows old if ye may not see the lights of heaven
01:44:45.460then the bond woman this sign have i that when as in my youth i was want to drink much in the dawn
01:44:57.400so now when i no longer use that manner i am yet want to wake up at the very same tide
01:45:05.260And by that token, do I know thereof? So he's starting to question her. And one of the things he questions her about is that she wakes up exceedingly early, as if she has been very used to being tasked with chores.
01:45:27.840and um she says no no no i uh when i was young i i would i would drink so far into the morning that
01:45:36.800i was just used to to keep going for the day and now i don't drink but i wake up early and
01:45:46.000do things because i've grown accustomed to the manner the king laughed and said ill manners
01:45:52.000for a king's daughter and therewith he turned to hordis and asked her even the same question
01:45:57.760but she answered my father erst gave me a little gold ring of such nature that it groweth cold on
01:46:05.840my finger in the day dawning and that is the sign that i have to know thereof so she has a uh a a
01:46:18.640golden ring and in essence prefers to wear it when it is warmed by the sun so it's further on
01:46:28.400in the day and this would be an understanding that a lot of the folks that owned land owned
01:46:35.040the halls did not have to get up before dawn when it was cold and start getting things going
01:46:41.600They had other people to do that, and so she's kind of confirming.
01:47:11.600will I deal with thee for thou shall be my wife and do jointer will I pay thee when as thou hast
01:47:19.660born me a child so one thing is she's not showing yet she's it was magical in the sense that Sigmund0.74
01:47:31.340said you are bearing our child take this sword and go the other thing is is King Alf says or Prince
01:47:39.500alf um you know why weren't you honest me honest with me from the beginning because she mentions
01:47:45.500the golden ring and he's like why would a bondmaid have a ring of gold um so i've he sorts her out
01:47:52.380and says you know i know this is you're tricking me and they did this because they didn't know who
01:47:57.100was coming up upon them and they were attempting to keep the queen alive so this is all turned
01:48:06.940and he says you know you should have just told me from the beginning and i would have treated you
01:48:12.540like royalty that you are uh as we are both the children of kings um but i shall not pay
01:48:20.540for your deception in any bad way i will meet it with matrimony be my wife and be the mother of my
01:48:30.860children uh therewith she spoke and told the whole truth about herself so there was she held in great
01:48:41.020honor and deemed worthiest of women so now i mean on top of that she from king al's perspective one
01:48:49.260he doesn't know that she's pregnant but more so um she comes from a line of great warriors
01:48:57.500he just saw them on the battlefield and she tells him the whole story about who her father is and
01:49:04.620who who her husband was and then you know fighting against uh limi who tried to take her hand
01:49:12.860and uh it just didn't go well um so we enter chapter 13 on the birthing and the waxing of
01:49:24.460sigurd fafnir's bane a couple of things one the waxing of course is the growing up the growing
01:49:35.100larger of the young sigurd and i really think it's cool that they use fafnir bane
01:49:41.740in translation it's the the foreshadowing is is really good there um
01:49:48.140So the tale tells that Hjordas brought forth a man-child, a baby, who was straightly born before King Hjallprek, and then was the king glad thereof.
01:50:07.960When he saw the keen eyes in the head of him, he said that few men would be equal to him or like unto him in any wise.
01:50:17.440So he was sprinkled with water and had the name Sigurd.
01:50:25.500So again, showing the Asavatni and the sprinkling of water is absolutely taken by Christianity and, you know, maintained because of its understanding.
01:50:42.440For those that aren't familiar, the Asavatmi is literally the sprinkling of water.
01:50:54.260It's one of the, I don't know, most special and beautiful things we get to do as Gothar.
01:51:03.800And it's one of the kind of sacred rites of passage in Ausatru.
01:51:08.600When a child is customary for them to be nine years old and deemed viable, to be brought before the folk and acknowledged and have their name fastened to them by this ritual, sprinkling them with water and proclaiming it amongst the people.
01:51:32.120presenting this as a member of our family and us to the child as their family.
01:51:41.020And when we do this in the Astro Folk Assembly, we pour out an offering
01:51:48.160and we beseech the Nornir to bless the child with runes of inspiration
01:51:55.060to guide them and set them on the right course in life.
01:51:58.960and it's a really special ceremony if any of you have witnessed it or if any of you haven't I would
01:52:05.260find yourself fortunate if you were able to
01:52:09.200but yeah just as a kind of side note I know we have a lot in the audience that might not
01:52:15.420be house true or might be new to house a true or not have experienced that yet so that is a
01:52:21.660a thing that we do that's sacred to us and and here too with its origins being um
01:52:31.180so far back the uh the argument of of whether um like baptismal and and i i think it's worth
01:52:39.900noting that early christians their baptismal sense was actually done when they were older
01:52:46.620when they were at age of conversion it wasn't done at birth that is a tradition
01:52:53.420from before christianity in europe the anointing or the the um sprinkling of water um0.72
01:53:05.580is something that they they couldn't get rid of just like the trinity they they couldn't get rid
01:53:11.980of it they had to add it in so we have a question that came up and it's directly relevant to the
01:53:18.460aside that uh i just made so i suppose we'll address it it's never too late to do a baby naming
01:53:24.060ceremony uh to bring the child into the tribe yes it's kind of silly and doesn't make sense when
01:53:33.420it's not a baby anymore i think being a stickler that you do it at nine days
01:53:39.500i wouldn't want to do it before then and this is um
01:53:47.420part of the deeper lore of it isn't just assigning the name to the child but as will
01:53:56.780just so happens we will also see in this story there is a magic that comes with a name
01:54:04.460name. Naming something fully integrates it and makes it a fixed point in cosmic existence.
01:54:17.660When you name, I'm trying to think of the best way to explain it because there's a lot
01:54:24.560of different angles. The naming of something fully makes it have its own identity. At the
01:54:33.860point of the ritual naming of the child their soul is integrated with all of its components
01:54:40.420and specifically with those parts that are inherited
01:54:46.580through its family and through the hymenia of the group it's accepted into
01:54:54.500there are other things that can be done later to welcome somebody into the group
01:55:00.660it's kind of silly and defeats the point at some point when someone has a you know a three-year-old
01:55:11.460they want to do asovatmi too i think there are other more suitable ceremonies or a way to cater
01:55:18.000something similar that's not the same because i don't want to be dishonest there's a point where
01:55:23.500before the baby naming the child is incomplete after they've existed in the world shown that
01:55:30.040their life is going to be sustained for a time they're fully imbued with their full personhood
01:55:38.680as it were and you know if you've you know if you're 20 you've made your own way in life in
01:55:47.860certain ways you've established who you are for us to do a baby naming for you would be kind of
01:55:53.480kind of absurd so i think there's other things that we could do but the idea of ritually accepting
01:55:59.820one into a group uh initiation is a a reasonable thing to do there's just other avenues for it at
01:56:07.580that point well uh you mentioned as a follow-up perhaps under a year i would say yeah at most i
01:56:15.180think that's probably the the smart way to do it we have some people that put off the ceremony until
01:56:22.540an event at the hof or a national event or whatever they go out to so that a gothi can
01:56:29.500perform the service perhaps you know again in one of our sacred spaces and some of that makes sense
01:56:38.380um but yeah i wouldn't i think there's other things to do later on i wouldn't want to do that
01:56:45.260over that year mark certainly but i think that's you know win is exactly how far is too far i think
01:56:52.300is a little bit of a a judgment call on the the go-fi or on the parents or both do you have
01:56:59.740thoughts on that's fun i was just gonna say and you had kind of lent into there are other things
01:57:04.620that can be done um if it's say after the age of one but before the age of uh 12 13
01:57:14.540um where where man making and woman making becomes uh a point of issue when that's going to happen
01:57:22.140um there could be we just don't forget that the holy gods are here they are involved and a lot of
01:57:32.860our proclamation is again a a point of piety an obligation to culture and tribal connection to
01:57:45.820the gods so if you miss that a lot of folks are coming into our faith from a chasm if you miss
01:57:53.420that and you reach out to the gothar and ask them or even if you don't have any goes or near you
01:58:00.220you know performing it on your own is as simple as stating to the gods and to your ancestors that
01:58:09.260you are moving forward now with trough to the gods and introduce your son or daughter let's say you
01:58:17.100have an eight-year-old child and you want to hold the bloat and give thanks to the gods and to the
01:58:23.260ancestors and tell them this is my child and uh we are moving forward what what that is the gods
01:58:31.340know they know already but now you are verbally making a point of going forward from here um and
01:58:40.140that has a great amount and if you're say you're even after your man making um maybe a young
01:58:46.780teenager um the ability of professing this was something that was really big back in the 90s
01:58:54.300but the professing of faith the going for like confirmation going forward and saying i will
01:59:00.380follow the gods of my people and i will not be twisted and misaligned by all this you know
01:59:06.540outlandish stuff and we will move forward from here and even at that point you know asking the
01:59:13.660gods to protect your child or children um and introducing them and then also telling your
01:59:23.660ancestors again they know but it's the deed the deed is obligation it's part of the gift
01:59:31.180cycle and if you cannot give outside of yourself that's a huge part uh that that kind of gives
01:59:39.980obfuscation to the connection to your ancestors and to the gods there needs to be an opening
01:59:46.700movement towards uh establishing those connections and creating that relationship
01:59:53.820yeah some of this is worth mentioning too
02:00:00.700it would be absurd for us to suggest that a person is not a real person if they did
02:00:06.860not go through a naming ceremony there's you know a great deal of us certainly myself included that
02:00:15.340did not go through that ceremony as i found alsatru and came home to alsatru 19 or 20. so
02:00:27.340don't be dismayed you still have full personhood but in a way and in a way that i think many of
02:00:34.780us experience we're having to forge our own path in the wilderness to come home to our faith whereas
02:00:44.540our children's generation doesn't have to do that they are born into this i've mentioned
02:00:51.980many times on this one of the most amazing and beautiful blessings in my life is to
02:00:59.340to welcome these children into our house to true folk assembly at a half to one of our gods to see
02:01:12.620my daughter you know go through her naming until i i was the one who officiated her naming0.90
02:01:20.700to have her grow up playing in the uh the courtyards of our hoffs on holy ground
02:01:29.340dedicated to our gods our children will never know a world that doesn't have
02:01:37.140hosts to our gods in it because of the work that we are putting in that we have
02:01:45.480put in and that those that came before us have put in and it's a really special
02:01:50.580time so it's it's nice to be able to put that forth to the next generation for
02:02:03.240them to be the first generation in a very very long time that from their
02:02:09.420birth and their naming they've been integrated into our faith and into our
02:02:15.000the community of our folk that's something that so many of us you know have not had for
02:02:22.440hundreds of years and it's sort of it's a real special time in that regard
02:02:28.560and we we need to gird our children and tell them that even though they are of this faith
02:02:37.860from the moment they took breath there will be people coming in and until
02:02:44.300folk and ausitru are synonymous they will always need to be these beacons to help guide other
02:02:53.760people home and that's going to be a you know a hard thing but it's one step easier after0.98
02:03:02.040us who have come from the this great rift um now that there are people who are of this faith
02:03:10.380uh from from birth their life their their being their their being folk and ausitry being synonymous
02:03:20.460this is the way of their people my children view that this is the this is our way the way of our
02:03:26.920people and other people have other ways and there are folk out there who have forgotten our way or
02:03:33.800are completely devoted to foreign ways and you need to you know be careful when you meet them
02:03:41.720but also be a beacon letting others know this is what it means to be true to the house and
02:04:02.160So, the birth and the waxing of Siggers, Fafnir's Bane.
02:04:09.560And it's worth noting here, Hjordis goes, so she's in Denmark by according to the story.
02:04:15.520And it is, her husband is a prince. Her father-in-law is King Hjallprek.
02:04:29.240So he's kind of brought in here because this is his domain. He is the king of this land.
02:04:38.000and uh when so and then was the king glad thereof when he saw the keen eyes in the head of him
02:04:44.800and he said that few men would be equal to him uh or like unto him in any wise so he sprinkled
02:04:52.160with water and had had to name sigurd of whom all men speak with one speech and say that none was
02:05:01.360ever like his like for growth and goodliness he was brought up in the house of king halpreck
02:05:09.040in great love and honor and so it is that when so all the noblest men and greatest kings are
02:05:16.480named in the oldest tales sigurd is ever put before them all for might and prowess for high
02:05:24.000mind and stout heart wherewith he was far more abundantly gifted than any man in the northern
02:05:31.120parts of the wide world so this is again volsung the volsung line um is shining through
02:05:42.880so sigurd waxed in king hjalprek's house he grew up and there was no child but loved him
02:05:54.000Through him was Hjordis betrothed to King Alf, and a jointure meted to her.
02:06:03.460So, in essence, he's raised there, she marries King Alf, and their joining is measured out in the sense that her father is passed away, her kingdom is taken over by another.
02:06:22.860but that doesn't matter and they are joined uh now sigurd's foster father was height
02:06:30.760rayon it's spelled like regan uh r-e-g-i-n but it's actually pronounced rayon and um
02:06:42.080it's interesting foster father he's a fosterling to this um this man
02:06:51.200not in a marriage sense he's just given over to this man to be taught in all manner of arts
02:07:01.280because he is a wise man as we'll find out um so he's given over as a fosterling
02:07:07.340to rayon the son of rithmar he taught him all manner of arts chess play the lore of ruse
02:09:31.500when so i have need thereof thereafter sigurd went to the king and the king said what wilt
02:09:39.340thou have of us and then sigurd said i would even a horse of thee for my disport
02:09:47.180then said the king choose for thyself a horse and what so thing else thou desirest among
02:09:54.220my matters so what's happening here is rayon is starting to create a pattern of influence
02:10:03.580and he starts right away with intention of being able to lead the willful sigurd in directions he
02:10:12.780wants um he he brings it up and sigurd says no i don't need a horse i i can have whatever i want
02:10:19.500whenever i want it's not a matter but then he's like so he goes and he asks for a horse
02:10:26.860and of course he's right he's he's given it um
02:10:33.100so the next day went sigurd to the wood and met on the way there an old man long bearded that he
02:10:41.900knew not who asked him with her way sigurd said i am minded to choose me a horse come thou and
02:10:51.020counsel me thereon so the old man asks him where are you off to and he says i'm going to get a horse
02:10:57.660and you should come with me well then he said go we and drive them to the river which is called
02:11:05.420they did so and drove the horses down into the deeps of the river and all swam swam back to land
02:11:15.140but one horse and that horse sigurd chose for himself gray he was of hue and young in years
02:11:23.040great of growth and fair to look on nor had any man yet crossed his back so they drove them to the
02:11:30.300to the river and all of them crossed the river out of fear but one remained and it was kind of
02:11:37.060like this process a divinatory process um and then spoke graybeard from sleipnir's kin
02:11:46.620remember sleipnir is uh lord odin's horse and sleipnir means the slipping one the one that can
02:11:54.720slip between the worlds. He says this horse is of his kin and must be nourished heedfully for it
02:12:04.420will be the best of all horses and therewithal he disappeared. So Sigurd called the horse Grani
02:12:13.460the best of all horses of the world nor was the man he met other than Odin himself.
02:12:20.900Now yet again spake Rayan to Sigurd and said, you don't have enough wealth, and I grieve. It's sad to look on that thou must needs run here and there like the son of a charl, but I can tell thee where there is much wealth for winning and great name and honor to be one in getting it.
02:12:47.540sigurd asked where this might be and who had watch or ward over it and rayon said
02:12:55.140fafnir fafnir is the warden's name and but a little way hence he lies on the wastes of nita's
02:13:05.020heath so he out in the moors out in the desolate lands but not terribly far away and then and when
02:13:13.180thou comest there thou mayest well say that thou hast never seen more gold heaped together in one
02:13:22.860place and that none might desire more treasure though he were the most ancient and famed of all
02:13:29.740kings so even immortal kings of old would never have seen so much wealth but sigurd looks at him
02:13:37.740says i am young yet know i the fashion of this worm and how that none durst go against him so
02:13:49.740huge and evil as he is so right away the establishment is that singer knows that
02:13:55.500fafnir the warden of the gold is a is a dragon a worm a lingworm any of that sense is again uh
02:14:05.980a serpentining beast and in uh the nordic stories the dragons um don't seem to be capable of flight
02:14:16.380they are often depicted as being long and serpentine with legs that either barely hold
02:14:23.180them up off the ground or kind of just help them as they twist and and turn through the land um
02:14:29.900um reagan says nay it is not so the fashion and the growth of him is even as other lingworms
02:14:39.500and over great tale men make of it and even so with thy forefathers have deemed but thou thou
02:14:48.080be of the kin of the volsums shalt scarce have the heart and the mind of those who are told of
02:14:55.100as first in all deeds of fame so he's saying no he's not as big and as terrible as people stay0.92
02:15:01.260it's just that they are a weak of hearts but volsungs aren't weak of hearts you would know
02:15:06.300you would stand and sigurd says i be like i have little of their of their hardihood and prowess
02:15:15.180but thou hast not to do to lay a coward's name upon me when i am scarce out of my childish years
02:15:22.700Why dost thou egg me on here, too, so busily?
02:15:28.360So, again, he's searching, he's looking, he's realizing what Rayan is doing.
02:15:38.660And Rayan says, therein lies a tale which I must needs tell thee.
02:15:44.680Let me hear this the same, said Sigurd.
02:15:48.060And we move into chapter 14, the tale of Reyn and his brothers, and the gold of Andvari, the dwarf.
02:23:36.180And I think that's interesting in and of itself.
02:23:38.640random side note you guys who are watching on the video might have seen me chuckle because we see
02:23:45.600here uh otter is you know he goes about he takes upon his like otter otter skin and becomes a giant
02:23:56.960otter as fawn said and it just as a random aside reminds me of one time my wife when we were in
02:24:03.040florida she mentioned she came home and there was this possum in the yard and she likened him he was
02:24:10.000so big it was a man in a possum suit and i just found that a little bit humorous um
02:24:19.520we are getting into the meat of the story here in a really big way and we'll see we got about
02:24:26.88040 more minutes worth of reading story and then we'll finish off of questions but i think we'll
02:24:33.440get to a pretty good place tonight as far as that goes but i'm there we go there he is sorry yeah
02:24:42.240i did run to the restroom real fast see how it is um demand use of catheters on victory never sleeps
02:24:52.960and get the the old lore bucket um the uh yeah i think too as you were speaking about this about
02:25:02.320their um manifesting into the laws of places i i really think i mean this for the audience too
02:25:15.360was giving origin divine origin or perhaps divine tragedy loki's hand is involved in the origin of
02:25:25.280something that will befall the volsungs and i think that was a that key component there um
02:25:34.080they had to establish that and it and it's i want to throw out something else here and this might0.96
02:25:39.920be a bit of an overextension but i'ma own it and say it's good advice regardless don't do stupid
02:25:47.920things like how do i want to say that um be intentional you know our law speaker is noted0.89
02:26:03.600for his persistent reminders to be intentional with our speech we should be very intentional
02:26:10.800with our actions too and how we interact with the world around us
02:26:18.240casual disregard for others or casual disregard for life i think we see time and again in our lord
02:26:24.880Or, you know, some vagrant wanderer looking for a kindness might well turn out to be the Allfather in disguise.
02:26:37.720You know, an otter that's just trying to go about his life doing otter stuff and, no, let's chuck a rock at his head.
02:26:48.420Maybe we shouldn't do that because there's some consequences.
02:26:51.160And I doubt that if you throw rocks at otters, that you're going to need to cover their pelt with gold. But realistically and very seriously, don't just be wantonly destructive and needlessly churlish.
02:27:13.060there's no cause for it extending nobility to the other creatures that share midgarb with us and you
02:27:21.620can apply that to a wide variety of earth fauna um treating other level living things with nobility
02:27:36.500and kindness goes well for you if you choose to kill stuff because you need a hide or because
02:27:47.940you need meat or because you have found the foe fine by all means that makes sense
02:27:56.340but just haphazardly oh look here's an otter let's chuck rocks at it and i don't mean to
02:28:02.740make light of it but we see people all the time that are wantonly destructive oh you know there's
02:28:07.780a stray dog or a stray cat let's be cruel to it um oh there's somebody that seems you know0.99
02:28:15.540retarded or homeless or cripple or somehow we think we're better than let's treat it poorly0.93
02:28:24.020this there's subtle reminders throughout our lore no act nobly and be intentional and if somebody0.97
02:28:31.860is your enemy then choose to have an enmity with it but if something isn't these are all living
02:28:39.460things and we want to live in harmony with the world around us i am not the
02:28:47.140there are currents within modern house are true that are very big on this as a nature religion
02:28:55.300that is not my emphasis nor what i want to focus on but there's something to be said
02:29:04.680you don't just needlessly wreak havoc upon the world around you without any clear intention or
02:29:13.400any purpose we should be purposeful in all of our actions my father taught me
02:29:21.280so anybody just joining this please be aware that i am prone especially when you know we're
02:29:30.640a bottle of wine and then two and a half hours into the broadcast to take these stream of
02:29:36.100consciousness journeys but i do think it's valuable my father taught me growing up i had
02:29:42.700casually made my father taught me a lot about being intentional with speech and with other0.97
02:29:49.020things so i made some casual he asked me why i was doing something it was some stupid
02:29:55.580childish thing i'm like well why not and he's like no stop no you need a reason to deviate
02:30:04.060from your course you know the right way to act and things to do and if you want to deviate from
02:30:11.660the course that you've set intentionally you need a good cause to do that the question is never why
02:30:19.820not the question is always why is there a compelling reason to deviate from your course
02:30:29.740and that's just i think that's an important stopping point for all of us to just like let's
02:30:34.460pause, consider, integrate, make a plan, and then execute a plan. Often when we are not
02:30:46.360willful in our intentions, we let others, we let the world, we let strange currents
02:30:55.640that we don't even understand dictate our behavior. The Aryan man, the noble man, assesses
02:31:03.960his situation and chooses action. He doesn't just react or go with the flow of the tumultuous
02:31:12.380currents he finds himself in. He chooses a course based on his will and the things that
02:31:19.280are meaningful to him. And he pursues that course for good or for ill. It's because it's his choice,
02:31:26.380not because he is a subject to, you know, the whims of chaotic or random forces.
02:31:36.340That is really important, and I think it's something to always consider,
02:31:45.900There's also been a current within Ausatru to denounce dogma,
02:31:54.020And I think it's the metastasization of dogma that is the problem.
02:32:04.280Having rules and having dogma isn't the issue, but it's when you don't stop and reconsider it.
02:32:10.200Let it never be said that in Ausitru, it's a blind faith.
02:32:15.760We don't want our faith to ever be blind.
02:32:17.720We want our, the value in our faith comes in its intentionality.
02:32:24.920Aousa true loyalty or troth to the Aesir is a conscious choosing to be loyal.
02:32:34.320It's not a, you know, we're cattle that wear a brand of the Aousa upon us.
02:32:41.140No, we choose to identify ourselves with our loyalty.
02:32:47.720Our honor is our loyalty to the Aesir, and that is a willful choice that we make that defines who we are.0.95
02:32:58.840There's no heroism if you're just chattel that kind of goes where the herd goes.0.96
02:33:05.280the heroism the nobility comes and you're choosing to stand with people with gods with causes with
02:33:16.120things that you truly believe in and that are expressions of your will and that seems like a
02:33:23.760long journey from and then or then loki chucked a rock at the otter but i think it's valid
02:33:31.460nonetheless and i would urge folks to you know consider that as we go through life or as we
02:33:36.420wander around and we see the world around us well i took this this moment to look something up
02:33:47.780because um i think it's kind of interesting to bring up a point about translations and things
02:33:53.380of that nature um so here we there's a little bit unsaid in essence uh loki is told to go
02:34:06.340to find this treasure and where it's at which happens to be
02:34:12.740on body's treasure at his falls um one of the interesting things about the the the
02:34:20.740The translation of Anvati, you know, I was, yeah, looking it up here, I just wanted to see like a base, because I have my own belief in the translation of him.
02:34:38.220Yeah, it says here in Wikipedia, on body means the careful one.
02:34:44.900But, see, I always translated it very differently.
02:34:49.740I've translated it, and is the opposite of something.
02:35:08.220So, and is used in the same way. And vadi is like connected to the same way as wares or possessions, items, the selling of wares and goods. So, and vadi would mean, it's kind of a play. It's like having nothing. I own nothing. I have nothing of wealth.
02:35:33.220i and also too i would give nothing so the name itself is kind of funny
02:35:40.580since he is a protector of gold and what is your name i am the one who has nothing
02:35:48.260because he doesn't want anyone to know that he has it and so the careful one i wonder if they're
02:35:54.820trying to place that in he's careful of his horde but the translation that i would go with
02:36:04.260is the one who owns or has no wares because he's attempting to put people off track that he
02:36:13.520actually has gold so loki gets tasked with going to him and that's not really fully mentioned but
02:36:21.240before he does that, they're in the middle. So he runs to the ocean and he goes there and he gets
02:36:29.560Raun, the wife of Eir, the Jotuns who are under the dominion of the gods loosely and live in the0.99
02:36:39.900deep sea. He goes and gets her net. So this is also setting a point that he is such a wary1.00
02:36:48.960prey that you have to use Raun's net to catch him. So he gets her net and went therewith to
02:36:59.460Anvari's pool under the falls and cast the net before the pike. So he's in the shape of a pike1.00
02:37:07.920fish and he throws it over and the pike runs into the net and was taken up. So he would not be taken
02:37:15.740by any other means than by the most magical net that which is brown's net um the the snagger of0.89
02:37:24.860souls and uh he brings him up and he says what fish of all these fishes swim strong in the flood0.65
02:37:34.540but hath learnt little wit to beware thine head must thou buy from a from abiding in hell
02:37:43.580and find me the one water's flame so here he says and the usage of the word h-e-l-l um but he
02:37:58.200basically says you you must convince me not to kill you and send you on hell's road or to sell
02:38:05.940you to send you into death because again remember hell is not only the presider of all things that0.75
02:38:14.660break life down and the holder of souls of of um the folk um through their process
02:38:25.300he says and find me and this is a a kenning the one w-a-n is how it's spelled one waters flames
02:38:35.220he's saying of the vanir the flames of the the vanir upon the water and that's why we often call
02:38:44.260heim dollar the flame upon the waves he's born of nine um nine waves he and there's many
02:38:52.420references to him being connected to gold so this is a kenning for gold but we can see again
02:39:00.260the flame of the water is the pulling up of gold from the river or from the land uh
02:39:10.500from the place in between which is the the pools and he says um he answers and he says and body
02:39:19.700the the one of with nowhere's folk call me call owian my father over many a force have i fared
02:39:29.540or many excuse me over a many a falls have i fared for a norn of ill luck this life
02:39:36.420on me lay the wet ways ever to wade so he says he's cursed uh to live in this shape or to
02:39:47.620need to live in this shape in the waters he's been cursed by a witch norn uh the word norn
02:39:54.660just means which it's very synonymous with dsir um why the the norns are called aussadies
02:40:05.460so again another one of those titles but he says that you know i i am uh the one without wares and
02:40:13.220oyen is my father um but i have been cursed and must travel the waterways in this shape
02:40:21.860um and he's kind of also fretting his state being locked in the net so loki beheld the gold of on
02:40:33.140body and when he had given up the gold he had but one ring left and that also loki took from him
02:40:42.260then the dwarf went into a hollow of the rocks and cried out that the gold ring i and all the
02:40:49.700gold with all should be the bane of every man who own it thereafter so he he curses it uh and the
02:41:02.020under the the part of this story that i i'm always kind of i don't i don't know is was it cursed
02:41:09.700before and him being caught is just another part of the curse for him to lose it or did he willfully
02:41:21.060curse it thereafter um i don't know but he speaks out and says all of it is cursed and any man who
02:41:30.820owns it will be cursed and now the gods rode with the treasure to pride mark and fulfilled
02:41:38.740the otter filled the otter skin and set it at his feet that they must cover it utterly with gold but
02:41:45.060when there was they were done hridmar came forth and beheld that one of the muzzle hairs a whisker
02:41:52.900the spot on the on the muzzle was open there was it was not completely covered and he was going to
02:42:00.020kill them and this is also kind of poetic in the senses they do bring a large amount of gold but0.99
02:42:06.340but you didn't cover that, so now I'm going to kill you.1.00
02:42:09.580So he gets his revenge, and he gets a large sum of gold.0.98
02:42:15.320But then Odin drew the ring on Varys' loom from his hand
02:42:22.180and covered up therewith, then sang Loki,
02:42:26.900Gold-a-now, gold-a-now, a great were-guild thou hast,
03:01:11.520the the trough to the iser was broken by our ancestors so long ago
03:01:20.240And that very precious and holy thing was broken, but through divine will and, you know, providence, the pieces were kept.
03:01:36.800And in our day, or in our Father's day, those pieces were gathered up.
03:01:46.720They were reforged for greater purpose.
03:01:52.400The trough to our gods was forged anew in the time of our founder, Stephen McNallan.
03:01:58.820And at, again, the intercession of the All-Father, that which was once broken was welded back together for might and for purpose, and we're part of that purpose today, and we are custodians of that blade.
03:02:20.220And that's always been a deep inspiration to me and something that has always leapt out to me about this story and something I think is fundamental in our ordination as Gothar and in the AstroFolk Assembly's position in the world.
03:02:44.700So with that, I've got a couple of questions from email.
03:02:50.220The first one, hey there, question for you this week, does the AFA encourage its member
03:03:00.040to engage in proselytizing, or do you typically wait for eligible people to find their way
03:03:06.540to you, once they're already aware of the AFA?
03:03:10.500If the AFA does encourage actively spreading the word, excuse me, any tips on how members
03:03:19.240can do it most effectively. Thank you for the weekly show. First, you are very welcome. I'm
03:03:25.480glad that you're listening, and I'm also glad that you're asking questions. Svon, do you have
03:03:30.220any response for Tilever as Nick has brought it to us? I'm not sure if that's the original email
03:03:37.480or just what, but yeah, do you have any thoughts on this question? Absolutely. I think
03:03:43.480proselytizing and conversion the origin of that word ultimately comes even before christianity
03:03:55.160in the hellenic area or um time frame in which a lot of different cults and churches of the
03:04:03.720gods and different focuses were attempting to you know bring people into what they were doing
03:04:10.360um i i think that it certainly has become a negative term especially amongst those of us
03:04:21.760who are also through and come from christianity but as you said we don't need to define ourselves
03:04:27.060by what we are not um it's just the same as the word like propaganda americans hear the word
03:04:33.260propaganda they immediately and they throw that word around to weaponize but it comes from the
03:04:39.220word propagation to propagate something and to grow it so really that attempt is it becomes soured
03:04:51.660when you look at it from where it's coming from in the outlandish faith that is literally outland
03:04:59.260of us um christianity or any of the the middle eastern religions is their attempt is to to do
03:05:07.180this for various reasons and mostly it's really to ascertain power over they do it subtly or they
03:05:15.740do it overtly you can choose whichever religion you figure uses the method but let's just look
03:05:22.180at christianity in itself that it comes in with i need to save souls because my god is going to
03:05:29.780punish people um that that don't accept him um and then it turns into you know come to the church
03:05:39.000and uh we will you know make these edicts that really if you know if you look deep enough kind
03:05:47.560of are against even the european that the uh the arian mindset but no don't look too deep so it's
03:05:56.640it's about that kind of buffering in with fear. There's that caveat. We are not coming at anyone
03:06:02.160and saying you need to be Ausatru or the gods are going to punish you. No, the gods have seen
03:06:09.500us go through the ups and downs, the rise and falls, the battles between each other.
03:06:16.440they decided when to return. But we can try to be a beacon by deed and by voice for the gods and
03:06:28.660encourage our folk to come home because ultimately the idea is to synthesize folk with
03:06:35.960Auseter. And we can argue about the details of Hellenic and Slavic and Celtic and Germanic
03:06:44.080and what have you all all we you know all you want to the blue in the face but the reality is
03:06:51.100is that those people no matter what branch they are the gods are the gods they have been the gods
03:06:57.600they are culturally different in each of those branches but we um are the one prevailing in
03:07:07.580especially in this land we we are a germanic country we speak a germanic language the others
03:07:14.540had their cultures have different issues um so that aside honoring the gods of the aryan people
03:07:24.540through the germanic lens i i encourage people to kind of understand the case of this um but
03:07:33.100But we need to at least tell their folk that they have an option, that they have a world that they can live in where they are integrated with the spirituality and not severed from it.
03:07:46.460they are connected to the divine and the the it's it needs to be a key balance
03:07:53.060Christianity has become so obscure it's left away from its origins of of um the god of the
03:08:00.580Israelites or the god of the Jews to uh even now the Christians are like well now we're the Jews
03:08:06.220but at the end of the day it becomes an obscure kind of divinity that has no face0.95
03:08:15.580And if it goes to other countries, they do it anyways.0.95
03:08:20.640You go to Korea, you see Korean Jesus.0.94
03:08:23.000You go to Japan, you see Japanese Jesus.1.00
03:08:26.600Korean Jesus is the one that's super slow, right?1.00
03:08:33.660But again, that's another implication of the way that they are trying to connect both with what they want and how they see themselves.
03:08:42.440and you cannot make religion it's like socialism it's like communism you can't make our connection
03:08:51.840to the divine there's one gray me it's one gray me jesus can whoop up on al sharpton black jesus
03:09:01.340yeah i mean and it's like la riots all over again okay so at random a gentleman who i first got
03:09:10.800involved in outstreet with uh he'd moved up to wasilla alaska and he had kind of come up as a
03:09:20.800as a skinhead in jacksonville florida and one of his good skinhead buddies for whatever reason
03:09:28.480was an avid collector of black jesus like he needed all the velvet like paintings of black jesus
03:09:37.280and the prize ones were the ones with the quote-unquote al sharpton hair like the flowy
03:09:44.320like helmet you know yeah like they i you are a barber i don't know how you get um
03:09:53.200oh chocolatey hair to they actually have age from its
03:09:59.920willingness to put a chemical in it that removes genetic material
03:10:03.600so that it lays that way so he had a had the like camp al sharpton treatment with it
03:10:10.980um but that was the preferred version of black jesus that uh that he collected
03:10:19.640um if you're going to go with a version of jesus uh korean like super swole jesus is a
03:10:30.980an awesome depiction um where his abs have ads i've also seen the depiction on some t-shirts
03:10:42.020at the gym of jesus being super swole because he's like carrying around the crucifixion cross
03:10:48.980almost like conan if when he's pushing the the like mill wheel or whatever he gets like super
03:10:56.500bodybuilding mr olympia level physique from pushing this wheel um apparently jesus from
03:11:03.700carrying the weight of the cross and the associated sins of mankind has become swole
03:11:10.500so um take that for what you will i think that's interesting artwork well yes the afa is a million
03:11:18.020percent behind proselytizing being obnoxious no spreading the word and letting our folk know
03:11:28.500not only that but that's always been part of our declaration of purpose of our of our mission
03:11:36.660statement is to issue a call to bring the folk home that's literally the function of
03:11:44.340the astro folk assembly since its inception is to guide the folk home and bring the folk home
03:11:52.260we've got silly hang-ups with words we associate with religion that maybe as kids or in former
03:11:58.580associations we didn't like it's time to be grown and get past those hang-ups on religion words
03:12:08.020No, if you have something that you love, you want to tell other people about it and bring our folk home.
03:12:19.000We don't ever want to be obnoxious, but I've mentioned this countless times on this program.
03:12:26.300One of the biggest hurdles for our growth is that so many of our people just don't know this is an option.
03:12:34.420I know that when I came home to Ausatru, I mean, I was, I'm sure there are people who are way smarter and way better read than I was, but I read deeply about religion.
03:20:15.640And the more of that that y'all do and that we do, the more of our brothers and sisters will be able to welcome home to trough with our gods.
03:20:24.520and stronger we'll be going into the future.
03:24:51.740But the gods would be with us if all of that was burned, because it would happen again. The nature, our blood, our history, all of that. Their names may be different, but they would be amongst us. They would be with us.
03:25:11.080and so it it's hard for people to understand it's like is balder gone uh is he uh beyond the veil
03:25:22.440or has he risen and again it's it's in essence it's like it's yes yes it's yes and it's very
03:25:29.620very hard to explain that because people need logos they need logic to explain and going from
03:25:38.560point a to point b but mythic truth is perennial and it will preside over as things are turning
03:25:48.080it's almost like having a light or a flame underneath the thing that is turning eventually
03:25:54.480it will come back around and relight or reignite itself no matter what or which way things turn
03:47:25.080A gothy, or at least a sincere practitioner of our faith, trumps all art that's done through the eye of imagination or of fantasy or of historical accuracy or of, you know, anything you can put your finger in between your eyes and push up your glasses about.0.95
03:47:48.820um the only gothi that i know that produces art depicting our gods0.99
03:48:00.660is the gentleman who is joining me on this broadcast tonight
03:48:06.020and his depictions of our gods are the gold standard and i would direct everyone to them
03:48:14.580um when you look at very ancient pieces from actual practitioners of our faith be they crude
03:48:27.540wood carvings or you know primitive metal work of our gods those also have great value because
03:48:37.560Those people believed in the subject they were portraying.
03:48:42.980I think second to art produced by actual practitioners of our faith is things from the Romantic period where it was done by people who love our folk and who at the very least see our gods as aspirations.
04:04:03.260But I think art transcends good reproduction of things.
04:04:12.940Like a camera is not an artist, but it takes a 100% accurate picture of the thing it's trying to take a picture of.
04:04:23.720The element of art to it is an entirely different story.
04:04:28.420It's like Van Gogh's Starry Night looks nothing like an actual Starry Night, but it's powerful, and it's beautiful, and it speaks to us all the time in a way that doesn't when you just go outside and you look up.
04:04:43.920What he puts into it is very different and transcendent, and I think that's the best I got on it.
04:04:52.700art's a hard thing to define i have i have gone over long on the subject
04:04:59.820but that's okay because we only got one question after it
04:05:04.460uh what do you do when you find it hard to do ritual does that ever happen to you it's not so
04:05:13.420much laziness but rather a feeling of pointlessness deep how do you get out of this slump
04:05:22.300swan do you have any thoughts on that well the word that stuck out to me on that one is
04:05:30.060pointlessness um that is a pervading feeling i think that's something that comes about because
04:05:40.140of an overwhelming sense of negative uh information thoughts uh all this stuff going on
04:05:49.820can create this tidal wave of feeling that is it just feels pointless to do this or or that or
04:06:00.560what have you the only thing i mean i guess my initial thought was to think of like well what
04:06:05.920would encourage someone to break through pointlessness um you know the the idea of
04:06:15.120reconnecting to the to the gods of your people i have also so like reconnecting with your gods
04:06:22.320of your people uh perhaps you know improving and re-honing and opening your life but it sounds
04:06:28.720like you're already there and um i often talk about to duty and obligation to your ancestors
04:06:36.180and to the gods but beyond that and i've been thinking about that question as i saw it and
04:06:44.760trying to go back and forth and i think ultimately
04:21:48.620You don't have to try to impress them.
04:21:51.060I think you should try to impress them with the way you live your life, but in that moment, you can't fool them, you can't con them, you are who you are, and you're either genuinely laying part of your soul upon the altar and speaking to them, or you're not.
04:22:17.380You're just going through the motions and, you know, trying to BS them.
04:22:23.700And I say that, and I don't, it's another thing on this show that we talk about a lot that I think is very important.
04:22:35.960Everything we do in our life, we want to elevate ourselves to be worthy of our gods.
04:22:43.400we don't ever want to drag them down to our level
04:22:50.020knowing because the thing is we always want to be closer to the gods well we can do that one of two
04:23:01.000ways we can bring ourselves up closer to them or we can try to bring them down closer to us
04:23:10.300We always want to do the former and never, ever the left.
04:23:15.580But that said, our way of understanding them has to start with seeing them through the eyes that we have and through the experience that we have.
04:23:29.840When I say that at any moment, if anyone who's in my phone calls me and has, doesn't matter anything else, literally, anyone who's ever been in my phone, if they called me right now and said,
04:23:52.020Hey, Matt, I want you to know that you mean something to me, that I love you, that I care about you, that, you know, I stand with you, you're my guy.
04:24:05.420That is always, always, always well received.
04:24:09.840If someone calls and they have some kind of strange, nuanced, feeling out process nonsense, less so.
04:24:24.000And I'll say this because it's disarming and I think that there is a truth in it.
04:24:30.860Never mind that I'm almost through bottle two of my $3.49 Walmart wine.
04:24:37.380And Vino Veritas was a reference to our folk because part of our drinking culture in the tribal era was so that when there was a lot of pretense between nobility, between warrior thanes, of trying to see who's the biggest badass,
04:25:01.660a little bit of drink opens up you know the hey man i love you as silly as that's come to be
04:25:12.140there's an honesty to it that our ancestors appreciated
04:25:16.180when somebody is able to just open up and drop the pretense hey this is who i am this is where
04:25:24.360matt i really appreciate you i love you i miss you i'm thankful for you whatever that is we all
04:25:35.640know it when we hear it and it doesn't ever or at least i hope for you it never ever
04:25:45.480doesn't make an impression on you or doesn't mean something so when people talk about things
04:25:51.800being pointless or being uh seeming meaningless whenever anyone in your life that you care about
04:26:00.040or that she that you don't care about literally if any person with sincerity in their voice
04:26:08.760sincerity in their expression has something kind to say to me
04:26:15.720that has a value it's never nothing and I think we all know that as people that's part of
04:26:24.840the human condition and when I say this I don't mean to diminish anything but I talk a lot about
04:26:31.500relating to our gods a scholar pontificating about Davis Potter and what that means linguistically
04:26:39.840it that so i'm refraining from making vulgar gesturing but all of that is just kind of absurd
04:26:54.560hey all father i'm here i appreciate you
04:27:01.280i'm doing my best i want to do this right i want to make you proud of me hail odin
04:27:11.920i have to believe that that is well received whereas the other i don't think that odin is
04:27:20.160impressed by your meager academic flex i do think that he sees your heart and he cares about
04:28:56.160So the celestial gods of order and maintenance are the hymen verdur, the heavenly wardens.
04:29:09.700And an understanding that I think a lot of folks don't consider is that one, our holy gods are powerful, but some are given duty and preside over things.
04:29:26.780the muspel spark that soul suna is holding presiding keeping and it is again referred to
04:29:41.080as making it that it is not able to burn the world on top of this there is emir's skull which
04:29:52.540is called delinger's hall and delinger is the presider over this and there's kind of like the
04:30:00.680inner and the outer major i i certainly think that any of the holy ice here could be honored by us
04:30:08.260and every god and goddess has their moments of cultural shift when there's a desire and a wanting
04:30:17.000to and then other times they kind of seamlessly meld in because culture is always changing um
04:30:24.380but like forced focus of that is very very interesting i would say that the human brother
04:30:35.140are seen as gods that have duty and that duty is to maintain the correct passageways they knew not
04:30:46.980their their course in heaven and were given their course in heaven and so our our ancestors saw them
04:30:55.180as maintaining track mauni maintains time he does this through the the calling of the seasons
04:31:04.140the day counts the day the moon counts the seasons these are the ways that we know when to do
04:31:11.720certain things planting and why we have austera during austera moon knowing that this is the time
04:31:20.040where where summer is going to start um all of that is really important uh but i think on an
04:31:28.140individual level from the church's perspective if you are giving worship to um the celestial
04:31:36.340and heavenly bodies. It's generally done in times where that has significance. Ostara is honored a
04:31:45.540lot during Ostara, but very rarely do I ever see a lot of folks just honoring her, um, outside of
04:31:54.740that. Could you at any time of year? Absolutely. But that's the biggest thing is that they are
04:32:47.760The sun is a collection of gases that does stuff.
04:32:52.040I do worship forces that animate, that regulate, that create, and that officiate the sun.
04:33:03.560And it might seem like a very subtle difference to those on the outside, but it's a massive difference.
04:33:12.120Our ancestors aren't primitive ape beings that, son, that's, no, that's not how it works.
04:33:27.440There are gods and spirits that interact with the natural world, that participate in the gift cycle with all of us, that their dominion is reflected in natural phenomenon.
04:33:47.280but no the ooga booga let's worship the sun because it is a god let's worship
04:33:56.840mercury because we see that really bright light it is a god no that's not how it works
04:34:04.960and when we limit it to that level we do a disservice to our ancestors
04:34:12.480We do a disservice to those who come before us.
04:34:15.800And we don't acknowledge that people in the, you know, arch-ousadreau era, people who were alive at the recording of our lore, our physiology is the same.
04:34:34.500Our brain size, our ability to make sense of the world is the same.0.95
04:34:41.640To think that our, you know, great, great, however many times grandparents are these idiot monkey creatures, you know, beating bones together, that's not how it works.
04:34:58.720But they did realize that there are spirits that animate the world around us, that speak to us and tell us things and are the movers of some of these greater phenomenon, to recognize the difference between, I drive my car, I'm not my car.0.96
04:35:24.580That's a real fundamental difference that maybe howler monkeys don't understand, but our ancestors surely understood.
04:35:39.180And we owe them that amount of respect instead of, I don't know, an anthropological arrogance.
04:36:44.560that it was out of order and then was brought into order um and the earth emir's body that
04:36:52.540the utilization of things and becoming stewards over it uh to to bring order to it but it gets
04:37:01.520even stranger the the usage of the bellows the mythological language the two horses the bellows
04:37:08.940the shield that she holds behind her to deflect the heat and just recently these uh there was a
04:37:17.260scientific discovery of something they call the helios shield that stops these terrible rays
04:37:24.140from coming in and burning the the earth and i see that and i'm like oh but how did they they
04:37:29.900how did they know the gods the gods gave this to our ancestors it was spoken through but it's
04:37:35.740spoken through in language that could be understood then and now in a very different context
04:37:42.460why does the the earth have two horses day and not riding two horses the sun has two horses
04:37:51.980but mauni only has one and out of all of those mauni is the only one that has not its own
04:37:59.820centrifugal access that blows my mind a lot of that stuff but as far as worship goes i think
04:38:08.380personal worship absolutely during midsummer you will see a lot of honoring towards uh
04:38:14.460soul and towards balder um austro for the dawn during the dawn of summer but uh as majority
04:38:25.180majorism i think that that's a big thing that we talk about is um we understand the hierarchy of
04:38:31.500our gods we understand the tripartite and everything that works down from there but
04:38:35.980there are cults of the gods that will come in and out and grow and recede based on the needs
04:38:42.860of the folk and the gods are always there to provide that i'd also like to i see a white
04:38:50.140horse also true mentioned uh rune dalvering and he was able to find his wallet uh after it fell
04:38:57.820on a bus and that sounds silly i will mention um i have been greatly greatly blessed by the icer in
04:39:10.300my life there have been times to where i was struggling when i first moved down to florida
04:39:18.060i'd left everything i knew in alaska to go and be with who would become my future wife and
04:39:28.540part of that was to further my ability to work for the austral folk assembly
04:39:35.580that led me to where i am today but there was some pretty lean years there
04:39:41.740and i did some on the way up to a well i guess
04:39:45.740Because within the week preceding my trip up to Winter Nights in the Poconos from Florida, I was, it was getting pretty lean.
04:40:00.340And I was really in need of some wealth.
04:40:06.240And I did a, you know, a series of very intentional rune galder to increase my, my wealth and my ability to have enough money to experience some of the joys of life with, with Mandy and myself.
04:55:29.360I am very willing to attribute all good things to the Aesir, and I am very willing to take responsibility for all negative things upon myself.
04:55:43.500I don't honestly tell you, standing in front of you,
04:55:50.840and very much under the influence of the fruit of the vine,
05:12:12.400I think we'd probably get along really, really well and could learn a lot.
05:12:16.300It's unfortunate that forces of chaos in the world seek to divide us or cause problems amongst us that probably wouldn't exist organically.
05:12:55.000it's about loyalty and trough to the Iseer
05:12:58.700And I think that any well-meaning person looking into it would know that.
05:13:06.580And I'm hopeful that our people in this day and age have the discernment to see through the, I don't know, ill-intentioned traps of the media to get us to have problems amongst one another.
05:13:20.880i was gonna say they didn't have um any of the american uh like scrubby groups because i even
05:13:32.000mentioned it during the interview i said you know which one the last one they had has gone under
05:13:36.960since right they've imploded because of embezzlement from their members trying to get a
05:13:42.400hoff i i even brought that up i was like the one in the daily mail i don't know the the lard neck
05:13:49.440beard kindred um they have completely collapsed within themselves because they were taking money
05:13:58.800for a half and then somebody asked for an audit and you know i guess with that level of autism
05:14:05.440someone's gonna track the numbers right all right so let's let's address this for a second i think
05:14:10.800they were trying to raise ten thousand dollars for refurbishing a guy's barn to make it into a hoth
05:14:23.600and that wasn't handled well i think he spent it on i don't know coors light and fritos or something
05:14:35.200wasn't that guy the guy with the rabbi for a wife or something
05:22:36.960We are currently, as we mentioned earlier in the program,
05:22:40.580trying to pay off the last $43,000 on our fourth half.
05:22:47.680We have very solid plans for our fifth and our sixth half.
05:22:55.740So it's very hard to find a point of comparison.
05:23:00.660And I think that our detractors, there's an idea in Western media that when you do a positive story about something, you need to also have the counterpoint by their detractors.
05:23:16.920We don't really function in a system to where that's an easily attainable paradigm.
05:23:25.580So I think it makes those that want to do a story have to go to great lengths to figure that out.
05:23:34.840We did a story in the Babylon Bee, which is a Sacramento area newspaper.
05:23:43.000The guys interviewed me in a park in my local area.
05:23:47.820But they said, man, I really wish we could do this story on the religion page that we used to do.
05:26:22.700Actually, and I'm not going to go really long into this.
05:26:25.220I would actually recommend that folks give their gift by pouring into the bowl and then taking that bowl and gifting it out.
05:26:34.040And that being that, I think that is a huge thing that a lot of folks in Ausitru don't do enough of. And just having those devotionals of gifting. But yes, no, absolutely okay.
05:26:51.000the whole idea of the gift for a gift stuff is it there is a gift for a gift but there's also
05:26:57.300we are giving for the gift we have been given and it's already on their end given to us so we are
05:27:07.060simply giving back um but a gift for a gift for a gift right right that that that cycle but eric
05:27:16.540you are correct there's nothing wrong with doing i would actually say that should be the mainstay
05:27:22.780of our faith and in piety and what we're doing is to give to the gods and we're not asking for
05:27:29.420anything we are simply doing this as a testament to our to our the gods of our people and to our
05:27:38.300ancestors and that's about it other than that it's willingness to move forward with them