Asatru Folk Assembly - 4⧸17⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 93 - Sigrheim

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00:03:00.000 Hello, and welcome to another edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:14.240 Tonight, we got a special episode for you for only the second time.

00:03:23.760 The producer of this fine program is getting in front of the camera.

00:03:29.960 And yeah, we're welcoming not just the producer of Victory Never Sleeps, but folk builder Nick Rice wears a lot of hats actually within the AFA.

00:03:41.040 He is a man of many talents who we rely on pretty heavily for a lot of different things.

00:03:49.040 made a little hand gesture to imply just a few talents or just a small amount of talents but

00:03:59.220 they happen to be the talents that are very often needed so there's a couple of

00:04:04.980 a variety of things to talk about tonight want to talk a little bit about Sigurheim and how

00:04:14.660 things are going there um for those of you that may not know nick is the caretaker of siggerheim

00:04:25.460 and he has picked up his life and moved to the closest good size uh good sized town to siggerheim

00:04:35.780 and eventually he'll be living on the property um but yeah he's been a big part of taking care of it

00:04:42.580 in the past year and a quarter or so that we've had it and that's been much appreciated so he's

00:04:51.460 got a good uh good feel of the community and of the area and um you know certainly the property

00:04:58.100 itself i'm trying to think if there's any housekeeping things today to go over before we

00:05:05.060 start in earnest a couple of other things tonight to talk about um nick is

00:05:15.460 kind of our immediate quick response tech guy on i don't know in this day and age it seems silly to

00:05:24.340 talk about that because it's such a broad category and you know nick gets hit with

00:05:30.420 every possible thing that interfaces with a computer in any way um but yeah he's been

00:05:37.620 great with that and uh not to mention he folk builds and he hosts stuff he gathers folks there

00:05:44.020 in tennessee for um moots at the at sigerheim itself but also in the surrounding area and

00:05:55.940 yeah so we'll talk a little bit about that something else i don't want to talk about

00:05:59.620 because i don't think that we have in a while and i wanted to bring it up and it's not nick specific

00:06:07.300 but i wanted to before we get fully engrossed in things talk a little bit about our

00:06:18.340 our south africa charitable donations deal that we do so for those of you that don't know

00:06:25.620 a couple of things for those of you that completely and totally just

00:06:31.380 you know aren't aware of it or aren't aware of things that have gone on there

00:06:35.060 there have been a

00:06:39.880 very large number of white farmers in south africa that have been the victim of

00:06:50.860 displacement from their family ancestral farmlands, from their property, have been the

00:06:59.540 result or have been the victims of thefts, of assaults, of rapes, of murders. And a lot of that

00:07:07.320 has resulted in folks being displaced. There's an alarming number of white South Africans that 0.99

00:07:12.300 find themselves in squatter camps, in very desperate situations there.

00:07:20.740 And because of how the current regime there is structured and in response to the shakeup

00:07:35.960 of you know what was called apartheid there's been a backlash against white south africans to where

00:07:43.160 it's very difficult for them to get employment because of employment quotas that are put in place

00:07:49.240 it's been very difficult for them to receive charitable funds because again so many of those are

00:07:55.720 selectively race-based and they're not they don't have access to a lot of them

00:07:59.640 um and to get like governmental assistance and that was i don't know getting old so the years

00:08:09.160 kind of run together i'm trying to think of how long we've been doing it but a number of years

00:08:13.020 ago that was certainly a topic that got talked about a lot more than it has lately say a couple

00:08:18.640 years ago i don't know six or seven years ago um and you'll hear about it every now and again

00:08:24.920 but a lot of our folk were distressed and disheartened about things that we saw with

00:08:33.200 our people over there and situations they found themselves in. And, you know, everybody wonders

00:08:40.100 what we can do about it. And a lot of the talking heads have these huge, huge and not easily

00:08:49.360 accessible plans on what needs to happen like mass relocations and mass immigrations of people to

00:08:55.440 different countries and a lot of things that are bigger and geopolitical and stuff we just don't

00:09:00.960 have access to but the distance between being distressed about it not knowing what to do

00:09:09.680 and these grandiose solutions that we don't have any access to make it happen

00:09:15.120 really led to a lot of people not doing anything and we decided as the afa that one thing we were

00:09:23.580 unwilling to do was nothing so we got to do something so we tried to find um local groups

00:09:31.000 to work with that were specifically taking care of white south africans that found themselves

00:09:40.000 victimized by the current over there and stuff that's going on and so

00:09:47.840 not exclusively but i'd say about 99 of the stuff we've done has been

00:09:54.320 involved in working with the south african family relief project and they run i believe a camp if

00:10:05.200 not work with multiple camps to provide to get folks back on their feet with jobs job training

00:10:16.160 help finding jobs also with you know raising some of their own food getting back into some

00:10:21.840 of the farming that ancestrally they were doing there was a source of pride for them and uh you

00:10:28.160 know aside from just helping take care of their basic needs one of the big first things that we

00:10:33.680 did they had a particular need for baby form and so we ended up gathering up a bunch of donations

00:10:41.680 for that we as it is now we gather up funds each quarter and every quarter will make a payout to

00:10:51.200 those folks to their uh the best way that it's worked with exchange rates and money transfer

00:10:59.360 and how everything goes is they've got a account at a gross grocery facility where they can get

00:11:07.120 bulk food for folks so that's where the money has been going lately we just did another one of those

00:11:14.400 a few weeks ago so i figured it was a topic to kind of mention again and bring up in case people

00:11:21.200 don't know it's a it's a thing or are unfamiliar with it so that's something

00:11:25.440 that we're up to and we're happy to answer any questions folks might have on it but i did want

00:11:33.380 to put it out there um as always we start off our show with a generous donation from

00:11:42.880 ronald blake a hundred dollars to help out the stone family

00:11:47.180 thank you very much for that and for all of your generosity we appreciate it um it's it's really

00:11:58.120 it's really something special thank you anybody who wants to donate we've got the variety of ways

00:12:05.980 to do that in the uh description of tonight's chat and there's a little qr thingy that uh nick

00:12:14.820 just popped on the the deal there there's other ways to make obnoxious bells and whistles and

00:12:20.580 things so you're you're welcome to play with those we appreciate it you can also donate um

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00:13:44.980 but yeah help us with those algorithms uh like i said before i think i may have said it last week

00:13:57.860 i don't know how to put it the biggest the biggest challenge that is

00:14:04.100 I guess the biggest threshold for more growth is that so many people who would be excited to be

00:14:14.160 part of what we're doing don't know that we exist and in the current climate with us being who we

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00:14:44.340 doing um and ronald comes in again with another hundred dollars for the south africa fund thank

00:14:55.140 you very much um can't say how much i genuinely appreciate all you've done thank you

00:15:03.140 ah that said nick what do you got going on these days well i got 15 minutes of you talking before

00:15:12.660 i even get to say my first word yeah so i think that might be a record but what do i have going

00:15:20.900 on these days well you mentioned a lot of it um a lot of work at sigerheim a lot of moots a lot of

00:15:29.940 tech stuff i i don't think i i don't think i'd be joking if i said i've put in twice as many

00:15:36.660 hours for the afa as i do for my day job um so i i really enjoy that it's a lot let's see this past

00:15:47.460 weekend well uh i had a moot out just north of nashville drove about two hours out there

00:15:56.500 and we had a member out there who doesn't get out of nashville much with his job he can't leave

00:16:01.860 frequently he's on call a lot so we did something close to him and went to a little german bakery

00:16:07.460 up there that i'd been to before and then we went and took a tour of a local civil war fort

00:16:13.620 uh got to see the forts cannons plus a lot of artifacts and such so that was really cool and

00:16:21.300 then sat and then that was saturday and then sunday me and a local member uh who does a lot

00:16:27.140 of work out there at sigerheim with me we went out there and i was doing mowing while he was weedy and

00:16:33.700 and such um i didn't make this mistake last year thank but uh for some reason this past

00:16:41.060 week i decided to wear shorts while mowing and i'm white white like white white and um

00:16:48.660 well i i think you could have rubbed me in some garlic butter and i i'd have been in a happy place

00:16:54.180 afterwards red as lobster but otherwise it never ends there's always moots i decided at the start

00:17:02.020 of this year uh last year i held a basically a moot every month at sigerheim did bloat for the

00:17:07.700 for whatever the holiday of the month is and then occasionally held something else

00:17:12.340 this year i i said it in stone that i was gonna on the ninth of every month no matter what day it

00:17:17.300 it was of the week. We were going to do the remembrance dinner for whatever our hero is

00:17:22.980 for that month. Sometimes it falls during the week. It actually often has so far, but

00:17:29.020 everybody's got to eat supper. It's not too hard to go out to a restaurant. We've been

00:17:33.960 doing that a lot, plus all of the same monthly gatherings at Sigerheim. Since I'm here and

00:17:44.000 i got this i'm just going to do some advertising if you're in the area on the 9th of may we have

00:17:49.200 elsie christensen dinner and then on the 9th of june we'll be having a remembrance dinner

00:17:54.160 for king of thanaric if you remember um the last time i was on here was specifically our episode

00:18:00.080 on king of thanaric where i got to talk about him and then our our holidays that we have scheduled

00:18:06.800 so far this uh on the books hex knocks coming up in a week and a half here at sigerheim and then

00:18:14.400 we have midsummer or then we have mayday and then midsummer and the summer's here so we're working

00:18:21.280 a lot uh the first weekend of every month is going to be officially the work days but the thing is

00:18:29.520 there's a secret to that i'm out there literally every single weekend so if you can't make it out

00:18:34.720 the first weekend of the month come on out and uh we'll we'll do something there's we'll probably

00:18:41.280 talk about it throughout the evening but there's plenty of stuff to do plenty of stuff on the

00:18:46.960 current list and then once that's done the list will never end you know because eventually we'll

00:18:54.080 be all living out there and having to keep track of that there's definitely lots to do out there

00:19:01.520 and lots of help that is needed and appreciated um the summer it's surprising the difference

00:19:11.840 between the summer and the winter out there as far as growth of underbrush and

00:19:21.040 growth in general of green stuff is shocking it absolutely is a jungle come the middle of summer

00:19:28.400 yeah and last year we slacked on the early on the late spring and early summer mo and we didn't do

00:19:36.980 the first mo well technically we didn't do the first mo until august but in july we had it bush

00:19:43.620 hog and that was the first time anything was cut once from the time we bought the property but now

00:19:49.620 that it was it was taken care of the end of last year and i'm out there at the beginning of this

00:19:53.920 year it's kind of amazing me because i was up in illinois and i'm on i'm only four hours north of

00:19:59.700 here and i normally didn't start mowing until second weekend of may i probably could have been

00:20:09.560 out there a week or two ago and started mowing but uh this past weekend it wasn't anything hard

00:20:16.620 uh the mowers taking care of it just fine but it's amazing that the grass is growing the grass

00:20:22.800 growing good um there's all kinds of i guess you could say flowering or budding weeds dandelions

00:20:33.680 and other things lots of clover in that field it's amazing that the transformation from just

00:20:41.920 random field grass four foot tall field grass to you know actual lawn in just a season

00:20:55.120 yeah we've got um i don't know if you got anything handy or if we've got anything to show folks but

00:21:03.760 no people are familiar i know there's probably some cool pictures of stuff out there just

00:21:10.320 thinking i know a lot of the time we assume folks here are very familiar when they might not be

00:21:19.040 for anybody who doesn't know sigerheim is it's about 70 acres okay sigerheim is there's a couple

00:21:28.240 of things the property itself that we were referring to is about 70 acres it's in jackson

00:21:34.560 county tennessee anybody doesn't know that's like central tennessee very far northern tennessee

00:21:42.720 pretty close to the uh border with kentucky it's about a little over an hour like an hour and a half

00:21:50.480 ish from nashville um beautiful place uh absolutely amazing spot

00:22:00.400 eventually we'll have a number of AFA families living on the property proper and eventually

00:22:09.580 we're going to have a Hoff to tear there on top of the Ridge among other other things we're also

00:22:16.540 going to have a big a big hall for feasting and celebrating and being kind of the administrative

00:22:25.540 headquarters the Austria folk assembly um but Sigurheim is bigger than that there's no way to

00:22:32.500 get all that we want on you know one little piece of property there so the the idea is for that to

00:22:40.120 be the center of for lack of a better term an AFA village getting our people closer together the

00:22:48.460 idea is to get as many AFA members as would like to to move to Jackson County Tennessee to live as

00:22:56.080 close to the property as you can one of the things about moving to that county

00:23:01.720 you know those of us out West I live in Reno Nevada right now I live in a county called Washoe

00:23:08.800 County and it's relatively narrow but it's half of the length of Nevada it goes from you know just

00:23:17.920 of me like the top of carson city all the way up to the border with uh with oregon there it's

00:23:26.800 it's really kind of ridiculously shaped out west we've got some really massive counties

00:23:33.200 tennessee they got little tiny counties if you're in jackson county tennessee there's

00:23:37.520 no place in that county that's more than 30 minutes away from uh from sagerheim and there's

00:23:43.280 some really cool spots on the other side of county lines as far as jobs and other things go it's a

00:23:49.760 pretty small county i forget because i know i've run the numbers before on what the current

00:23:54.160 population of the county is but it's very small and that's leads to some cool opportunities

00:24:00.640 it's a small enough county that we can be a really significant part of that community if

00:24:05.200 we're there and getting folks picking up and heading out there is is the goal

00:24:12.960 we've got some initial pioneers that have moved to the area to be close

00:24:19.200 and we appreciate those guys a lot it takes a lot longer for some of us to

00:24:25.760 divest from where we are and pick up and get out there

00:24:31.360 but those are plans that are solidly in motion

00:24:35.200 But, yeah, that's Sigurheim, and we've had it since December of 2022.

00:24:44.880 Somewhere in December, we closed on it.

00:24:48.780 Nick, how long have you been out there?

00:24:52.220 Officially, almost a year.

00:24:55.320 I started, I paid my deposit on the place I'm living at on May 9th, so almost a year.

00:25:02.380 yeah and uh yeah it's really cool i need to find more reason to go out there this year it bothers

00:25:12.240 me it's been too long i haven't been out there since we hosted winter nights out there in october

00:25:18.140 so yes it's been too long i need to get back out there next thing that i know that's going on is 0.95

00:25:23.940 we're hosting a national event there we're doing sigger bloat there which will be the 0.91

00:25:28.120 you know from here into perpetuity um national event there and that goes on in july 0.95

00:25:35.500 july is not necessarily seasonally the best time it's beautiful it's awesome but it's very hot it's

00:25:44.580 very humid um it'll get a lot easier and a lot nicer once we got uh the hall out there that's

00:25:53.200 all air conditioned and nice and that'll that'll change the game on it um but yeah we're very

00:25:59.840 excited anybody that also does not know sigur sigurheim means the home of victory

00:26:07.680 and sigur bloat is victory bloat and that's when we celebrate it it's

00:26:13.120 a celebration of how far we've come so far in the reforging of modern alsatru and uh

00:26:23.200 I guess it's a place to gather around with that, to build on that, for that to have a central access for the rest of the things to rotate around, but for that to be the home of the AFA.

00:26:43.800 And we've got other projects and things over the years we want to do that.

00:26:46.640 I'm looking at some questions we've got Nick in your the way you see it Wolf Throne asks how has Sigurheim grown since its inception and what are some future plans for Sigurheim what does that look like from where you're sitting Nick

00:27:07.320 all right well i mean i was i wasn't like there but i i i we heard as folk builders you you made

00:27:15.160 that announcement of the plan to get sigur hain so in my mind it's grown from that and realistically

00:27:22.280 it's grown from before that like many of us i had desires for an aussitree community even long

00:27:28.440 before um i joined the afa so to me it's grown from just an idea a dream to something that is

00:27:39.800 closer and closer to becoming a reality and then going through the process of us you know hearing

00:27:45.800 about the witten talking about it and witten young being out there in tennessee looking for the

00:27:54.120 property to buying the property to us taking the first steps on the property in january of last

00:28:00.280 year to me moving out here um just kind of exploring the land organizing book the bush

00:28:08.920 hogging and getting the other supplies needed for the first cigar blots which is like the first

00:28:14.920 really the first thing we did on the land after that you know that initial exploration but

00:28:24.120 now we're actually we've had a few events there bigger events now we've had lots of

00:28:29.240 smaller events with me being out there with just two or three locals um in in january we

00:28:35.800 were lucky enough that we had um a amazing couple from florida drive up so that was really the

00:28:42.920 first time we had somebody actually come out to see it and you know that wasn't during one of the big

00:28:51.560 um national events and now we're having we we're getting more actually we're getting more and more

00:29:00.040 buildings on it they're all sheds of course just small little buildings but you know with stuff

00:29:06.440 with with stuff going on we get stuff like items and we have to put it places so

00:29:13.400 we do have the one member who's been living on the property for about a year now and she's got

00:29:18.520 her little shed that she lives out of she's built herself a second shed as like a little workshop

00:29:24.840 and then um actually back in december i bought a little eight by six shed um that me and another

00:29:32.600 member put up and that's where we've moved all of the stuff the afa is kind of just acquired

00:29:39.720 into um so we're getting more and more buildings on it and that's the process so far it has been

00:29:48.360 slow but in the grand scheme of things but it's been you know boots on the ground doing stuff

00:29:56.600 um keeping it alive more or less and just kind of waiting i do have the slightest bit of intuition

00:30:04.120 that you know once you guys get out here there might be a little bit more momentum

00:30:11.800 yeah that's one of the things on this

00:30:14.280 it is not a quick process it is painfully slow um and it's painful it's painfully slow because so

00:30:24.840 many of us have you know are so excited about it and have so many dreams for it um i'm gonna move

00:30:31.500 out there with my family um the youngs are gonna move out there with their family we have several

00:30:36.720 other AFA families that are going to move out there, getting families of people in their 40s

00:30:48.720 to, you know, plan whatever their career situation is with finding work in their field,

00:31:00.560 finding jobs, transferring things. If I was, you know, if I was single, I'd be out there

00:31:09.660 right now making it happen. It takes a little bit longer. There you go. It takes a little bit longer

00:31:16.280 when you've got a family, but it's really important. And that's, you know, something

00:31:20.980 that we want to be at the core of what we're building out there. So we're doing a lot of

00:31:25.820 planning behind the scenes. As far as building and creating and doing things that way, we've

00:31:33.200 got a number of kind of subtle things to work on. We've got a road driveway path thing that

00:31:44.120 we need to be passable by vehicles from the street to the top of the ridge where we want

00:31:49.580 put the off it is rough now to where if you've got you know something that's meant for off-roading

00:31:59.020 that's four-wheel drive if you're artful and how you do it you can get up there if the season's

00:32:04.700 right um but we need to get that a little bit tightened up there's a lot of stuff we need to 0.98

00:32:10.940 do as far as growth on it um as nick mentioned the lady that's living out there right now has

00:32:18.780 you know done some some stuff um as far as those shed structures nick's working on shed structure

00:32:32.940 yeah people that are out there we've done some of that we've got the uh statues of

00:32:39.100 steve and of sheila out there and erected and those are

00:32:42.780 you know one of the things as far as growth or development out there that's happened in a

00:32:49.740 in a big way that's afa wide um been cleaning it up and reclaiming that field from just overgrown

00:32:59.500 grass and deer habitat deer and tick habitat into you know big lawn area that's eventually

00:33:09.740 where the housing is going to go and where the great hall is going to go um we've also been one

00:33:17.100 of the things i want to do more is work on the uh existing graveyard that's there and do some

00:33:24.780 reparations to old graves that were not cared for and to beautify the space and keep that nice that's

00:33:32.060 something i really want to put in work on um last year about

00:33:38.700 yeah just about this time last year my mother passed away and um at uh cigar bloat last year

00:33:48.860 when i went out there we we interred her ashes and so she is interred out there

00:33:54.460 and we've got her stone out there in that graveyard that's most of what we've done we've

00:34:00.940 worked a little bit on clearing and cutting more on that path roadway thing that goes up there um

00:34:08.300 again we've had folks come out and plan and scheme and plot on where we want to put what and just

00:34:14.620 what we want to do we've talked to some utilities folks about what's feasible with things that are

00:34:19.740 there but a lot of the big you know stuff you'd see your stuff you'd notice is it's hard to come

00:34:26.300 by uh it takes a little bit longer than i think we'd all like um one of the big things is you know

00:34:33.580 we had strike when the iron was hot as far as getting the place but it's a very significant

00:34:38.220 investment that we're still working to pay off and paying off the mortgage on the place is a

00:34:46.060 a big priority before we do some of the bigger projects on that it's our current uh nick threw

00:34:52.300 up the current um donation thermometer and uh as of about a week ago we're looking at um

00:35:04.540 we've we've paid forty four thousand seven hundred and ninety or and thirty nine dollars and five

00:35:10.140 cents which means we still owe two hundred and five thousand two hundred and sixty dollars

00:35:16.780 and 95 cents it's a lot but running this is a side project when what we've been pushing is

00:35:23.740 the payoff of of mjordshoff so that we can get phrasehoff and this being on the side

00:35:29.420 we've been able to do a lot in a relatively short amount of time and again that's due to

00:35:33.820 y'all's generosity we appreciate that so wolf throne uh asks a follow-up would you consider

00:35:44.620 creating more Sigurheim like villages around the country in the future if Sigurheim is successful

00:35:55.180 um first yeah absolutely the the AFA

00:36:02.300 strategy is all of the above and not just one approach there's we're gonna have people that

00:36:09.980 want to move from all around to come and live at Sigerheim. That's fantastic. We're going to have

00:36:15.660 people that want to stay where they are and maybe build something similar there. Also fantastic.

00:36:22.440 What that looks like right now, if you don't want to move to Tennessee, move close to one of our

00:36:28.640 Hoffs. I would love to see the same concept of AFA members living within 30 minutes of one another.

00:36:37.800 I would like to see that happen around each of our Hoffs, and that would do wonders to advance just our community, our ability to regularly worship our gods together, all of the things that we want out of life.

00:36:56.720 Anybody, if you can get yourself within half an hour of Brownsville, California, by all means do it.

00:37:07.800 You can get yourself within half an hour of Linden, North Carolina.

00:37:14.960 Do that.

00:37:16.400 If you can get yourself within half an hour drive of Murdoch, Minnesota, go for it.

00:37:22.420 Get there.

00:37:23.220 If you can get within half an hour drive of White Springs, Florida, get there.

00:37:28.360 Those are places I would all love to see something similar to Sigerheim pop up right now around our existing offs.

00:37:34.760 That's a short answer on that one. This next one is something that you are

00:37:41.960 ideally positioned to enlighten folks on. Corey asks, can you talk about the county

00:37:50.240 Sigurheim is located in? Populations slash job opportunities, et cetera. Nick, you've been living

00:37:58.120 there for almost a year now. What can you tell folks about the area?

00:38:03.120 all right well i'm gonna start with cory hello thank you so much for all the work you do at

00:38:07.840 balder's off with the food pantry and i'm super excited i just i just saw that uh it's 10 days

00:38:13.860 from your due date so that is amazing and i'm looking forward to that seeing you guys up at

00:38:20.320 freight faxie but okay so jackson county tennessee um realistically it's a lot like

00:38:30.040 where i grew up in southern illinois a lot a lot of like teeny tiny little towns about a thousand

00:38:36.040 people um you can look at google or wikipedia and um it'll tell you certain populations

00:38:44.000 they lie um or they don't lie and maybe they exaggerate the way the county i don't know if

00:38:52.320 it's the county or if it's tennessee or what it is the way they do populations is there's not

00:38:58.860 really anything that's not a town it doesn't matter how far you are outside of the town

00:39:05.260 you're part of the town so like it says whitleyville which is the town sigerheim is

00:39:12.580 tactically in is a thousand people that's utter and complete bull whitley itself is a post office

00:39:20.880 a butcher shop a christian church and like five houses that's it that's whitleyville and a broken

00:39:28.300 down old dilapidated ex-volunteer firehouse that you know windows are broken out of and all that

00:39:36.620 jazz everything else is just fields and farmhouses that are you know acres and acres and acres and

00:39:45.500 half a mile quarter mile a mile apart so obviously you're driving a little bit but it's it's awesome

00:39:53.900 and i love it though the heart of jackson county is gainsborough which i live just a couple minutes

00:40:00.620 outside of and it is about thousand twelve hundred maybe fifteen hundred people it's got

00:40:06.060 dairy queen it's got a mexican restaurant a pizza joint it's got a diner you know a bunch

00:40:11.980 of mom and pop shops it's got you know the the schools k through 12 a couple gas stations

00:40:21.020 one red light so it's this pretty standard small town and there's like

00:40:27.160 a couple of those surrounding the county and in a lot of towns of five or ten people

00:40:34.300 or not five or ten people but five or ten houses that just call towns i don't know or villages or

00:40:42.380 whatever they call them communities a lot of dollar generals um as far as jobs go in the

00:40:48.060 county it is it's it's a rural it's uh kind of a pretty poor uh county there's not a whole lot as

00:40:56.520 far as great opportunities i'd imagine but what what it does have is proximity i know you you

00:41:04.240 alluded to it um especially if you're on the south side of the county whitleyville is kind

00:41:09.660 of on the north side but as you said you're still only 20 30 minutes from sagerheim and whitleyville

00:41:14.420 you're on the south side of the county you're 20 minutes from cookville 25 minutes from cookville

00:41:20.080 even if you're up at sigerheim you're only 45 minutes from cookville and cookville's 30 000

00:41:24.920 people it has anything and everything and all the jobs and um all all the employment you could ever

00:41:33.020 want and there's a few other towns like livingston and lebanon's not too terribly far

00:41:42.140 Mount Juliet

00:41:43.480 and you're only an hour and a half from Nashville

00:41:46.460 some people

00:41:48.560 commute that far on a regular anyway

00:41:50.300 and they're used to that kind of thing

00:41:51.540 you're not that far from Nashville

00:41:52.660 so pretty much anything and everything you can want

00:41:56.520 just a little bit of a drive

00:41:57.800 but if you're from a rural area

00:41:59.640 that's nothing you're not already used to

00:42:02.720 anyway

00:42:03.020 and I really enjoy it

00:42:05.560 I would rather

00:42:06.200 be able to go somewhere

00:42:09.900 but not have to be there

00:42:12.140 yeah what Nick said there's a couple of other things so if you want to drive about a half an

00:42:22.940 hour to the northwest there's another town that's a good size town Lafayette and it's just over the

00:42:30.140 county line that's also a good place to work again if you can live in Jackson County keep your money

00:42:39.260 and your voting power and all of that in that county but work just on the other side of it

00:42:45.900 there's a lot of opportunities yeah um you know when we're talking we're talking like city center

00:42:52.860 to city center but it it spreads out quite a bit further nashville's got a much bigger spread than

00:42:58.840 that so an hour and a half gets you to downtown nashville you can probably get to a lot more

00:43:06.380 or on the periphery of Nashville opportunities,

00:43:11.680 closer than an hour and a half.

00:43:14.640 But yeah, there's a lot of stuff that way.

00:43:17.620 The county specifically is wired

00:43:20.300 with really good fiber optic internet

00:43:23.760 because a lot of people have moved to the county

00:43:27.980 to do work from home, tech-based stuff.

00:43:33.880 And that's what I would encourage a lot of folks to do

00:43:36.380 especially I'm going to encourage folks to do that once we get on the property itself.

00:43:40.680 But in the area, I think that gives you a lot of best of both worlds. I know some people,

00:43:45.400 if you are really invested in a particular career, then your dreams for that are going to

00:43:54.220 be a lot more specific. But for folks that are just making a paycheck, there's a lot of different

00:43:59.880 options there to think about um also the closest actual town that's a you know respectable town

00:44:10.840 that we would acknowledge as a town is gainesboro which is the county seat it's not a big town but

00:44:16.720 it's a nice little town it's got a dairy queen amongst some other things there is a battle

00:44:22.700 between two different pizzerias on what is the preferred pizzeria in the region it's not a battle

00:44:29.060 there's a clear winner there's an ongoing discussion on uh on that there does seem to be

00:44:36.420 one that is reigning supreme um if you're looking for dogs and you don't want to purchase one

00:44:47.220 there's a lot of options for that in the county yeah unfortunately there is no animal control or

00:44:54.740 uh like pound or animal shelter or anything like that in the county

00:45:00.580 um there is like in jackson county animal friends of animals or whatever thing that's trying to

00:45:07.320 start one but it's just you know a person trying to start one and the main county next to us

00:45:13.660 cookville or putnam county in cookville they don't allow out of county drop-offs so there's

00:45:20.700 lot of stray dogs it's really a very it's unfortunate it is unfortunate but that means

00:45:27.580 there's a lot of dogs looking for good homes if you can uh de-parasite them um

00:45:35.900 i joke but only sort of uh at our first event there was a dog wandered out of the woods that

00:45:40.780 you know sweet dog needed some tlc and that turned out to be kind of a nice success story that way

00:45:48.060 um but yeah so that's some stuff we've got some more questions like that coming up um

00:45:55.900 in and around the county they also have a lot of festivals like music festivals there's a place

00:45:59.900 called boiling springs i believe that's red boiling springs springs what's like 20 minutes

00:46:07.180 away or so yep that you know is kind of a boom town with you know it's it's nothing but then

00:46:14.060 when a concert comes through it kind of you know swells and that happens several times per year so

00:46:19.580 it's it's a cool spot it's really neat if you haven't been there i would encourage you to go

00:46:24.140 there and check it out check it out when nick's there check it out when we have a national event

00:46:29.420 there check it out when you want to and i can be there probably it's not going anywhere so uh

00:46:37.980 yeah and it's uh you know if you are an afa member it is your home too and we would love

00:46:43.020 to have you go out there and check it out if you're not an afa member why not you should consider

00:46:48.380 becoming one you should consider being part of what we're doing and uh get yourself down to uh

00:46:54.620 jackson county tennessee and let's make some stuff happen um so jilly asks ah okay is there 0.99

00:47:04.540 an austro sect in south africa where the women wear black head coverings i think you're referring

00:47:10.700 to the picture i posted recently in uh conjunction with the donation we made

00:47:17.340 no as a matter of fact the folks at that camp are not aussituer they're just displaced white folks

00:47:24.860 i think that the head covering wasn't so much that they're women but that they had long hair

00:47:29.340 and they were preparing food i saw another one that uh that organization posted this last week

00:47:35.740 of them and i think they're all wearing you know yellow ones i don't think there's any significance

00:47:41.100 to the head covering again other than they're involved in food preparation and it's you know

00:47:46.700 i think that's probably a compliance with whatever their food serving standards are there

00:47:52.460 but i think that's what that's about and like i say they to my knowledge no one in that camp

00:48:00.380 practices also true or doesn't what i think is significant is when we pool our resources

00:48:07.340 and they all come in from the afa they know that also true folks are supporting them

00:48:13.900 and hopefully that plan where when folks aren't in desperation and their lives even out a little bit

00:48:22.140 i'd love to see them be part of what we're doing and come home now

00:48:27.260 um

00:48:31.020 so somebody in the chat notes that there are a lot of false actors currently on telegram right now

00:48:37.500 unfortunately slandering you they do that and something that telegram is a really toxic place

00:48:46.060 it's a place that a lot of young uh a lot of young guys specifically like to go and have

00:48:50.940 conversations i'm sure some of it is probably good um but it's where a lot of really negative people

00:49:00.380 gather and pool up.

00:49:03.720 I appreciate that you recognize that they are false actors and that it is slander.

00:49:10.520 But if that ever happens and there's any questions, please feel free to ask them and

00:49:16.420 get answers to them.

00:49:18.840 It's unfortunate, but our people, and I'd kind of like to speak to this because it's

00:49:24.460 unfortunate phenomenon within our fold, especially within some circles that a lot of us find

00:49:31.460 ourselves in. We have a lot of people that have, and this is what I liken it to, and I don't do

00:49:42.560 this to insult anyone, so please don't feel that way. This is just kind of a life experience that

00:49:50.060 that I've had. And I think a lot of our young men have seen this. I think our women have seen,

00:49:55.320 say our young men, I think a lot of our men in general have seen this. I think our women have

00:49:59.240 seen it, but maybe they see it in a different lens or in a different way than from my perspective.

00:50:05.300 But, you know, we've all known women that find themselves in abusive relationships.

00:50:12.900 and 1.00

00:50:15.660 they say they want out

00:50:19.260 and they don't want to be in that spot

00:50:20.780 and sometimes you try really hard

00:50:23.080 to help them get out of that spot

00:50:24.920 that awakens the

00:50:26.300 instinct from some of the

00:50:29.140 best instincts in our men

00:50:31.020 to want to save them and protect them

00:50:32.960 and help them and get them in a better spot

00:50:34.940 but something internally

00:50:37.260 is broken to where their comfort

00:50:39.220 zone is in a spot where they're

00:50:41.020 being treated poorly

00:50:42.900 And until whatever is broken within them gets fixed, or until they want to fix it and are committed to fixing it, they always gravitate to that negative thing.

00:50:58.960 And I think we've got a lot of our folks that are so used to, used to losing at life in the struggle for our people in a lot of things that they talk about what they want, but when the reality sets in that it's there, it's very uncomfortable because it is far from where they've, it's outside of their norm.

00:51:26.540 and i think we see this a lot with folks that have had you know rough experience

00:51:33.580 rough experiences in life and success sometimes is out of their norm and so they create

00:51:42.700 it's like they're always looking for a reason or a justification to break apart

00:51:50.140 or to tear down or to 0.99

00:51:54.620 spiral into failure so they can say aha i told you so it was all crap you know it's all worthless 0.99

00:52:02.700 it's hard to get our people out of that i think that's part of the soul sickness 0.96

00:52:06.300 that our folk find themselves in and i really want to want to help people with that but a lot of people

00:52:12.140 a lot of people who don't want to get out of their comfort zone to be successful and build

00:52:21.640 the lives they talk about wanting unfortunately that's the biggest force i've seen that have

00:52:27.860 been detrimental to our ability to grow and succeed i know we get to where we want to think

00:52:35.500 it's other groups of people or it's the man or it's you know a variety of different folks keeping

00:52:42.700 us down it's not it's I mean maybe in a macro sense some of that happens I'm not ignorant to

00:52:48.340 that but the biggest detractors from us being successful are our own folk who are socially

00:52:56.740 very broken and don't know how to rise to the challenge of

00:53:03.060 functioning in a healthy society and making stuff work.

00:53:07.460 And unfortunately, that involves creating, it involves being

00:53:12.760 dishonest because I think the honesty of it is very

00:53:16.120 unflattering. So sometimes they make stuff up or behave very

00:53:21.180 dishonestly. But that's what I think that's about.

00:53:26.740 nick which colleges are in cookville the only one i know of is texas tech golden eagles um

00:53:38.100 there's no texas there's no texas tech tennessee tech golden eagles um i mean i guess red raiders

00:53:47.280 but that's a little ways away that wouldn't count so tennessee tech golden eagles is pretty big

00:53:51.800 Pretty good-sized college for, you know, a medium-sized town college.

00:53:58.240 Other ones that are close, Middle Tennessee.

00:54:01.440 I don't remember what their mascot is.

00:54:02.900 I just know it's like a Pegasus-looking thing.

00:54:06.080 It's like 50 minutes away.

00:54:08.960 And just to cover the next question, any art schools or agricultural schools,

00:54:15.000 luckily, Miss Rachel posted in the chat,

00:54:17.680 there's apparently a York Agricultural School.

00:54:19.940 about an hour away and i'll also say in relation to texas or shoot tennessee tech

00:54:28.400 um um it has a pretty darn large agricultural uh aspect to it itself i'm gonna hush up because

00:54:37.640 we got the birthday girl in in the in the picture right now no she's trying to be sneaky i think

00:54:42.340 she thinks she's sly and nobody can hear her oh no we heard the birthday girl no my my beautiful

00:54:48.460 baby daughter's gonna be four years old tomorrow hey arbor you want to say hi to people can you get

00:54:54.380 up here can you say hi you wave

00:55:05.660 oh that's mr nick

00:55:09.740 hey you got all these people that are watching

00:55:13.020 oh that is your great-grandpa

00:55:20.140 yes your great-grandfather did have a mouth and nose and ears and eyes we've got i'm lucky enough

00:55:35.200 my uh my grandfather and i don't remember the story of how this came about but he had

00:55:41.600 occasion to know an artist that needed practice or was doing something making bronze busts

00:55:49.640 I guess it's not really a bust it's just basically his head and neck but it's really cool and my

00:55:57.020 daughter was just noticing that he in fact had facial features eyes and mouth and nose all those

00:56:06.500 things yes sir i was on a google search because she asked there is all the tennessee tech stuff

00:56:18.260 obviously there is genesis career college there is tennessee bible college there is fortis institute

00:56:28.180 um which i'm no idea what that is um but what there was it looked like there was an engineering

00:56:36.220 school for chemical and civil engineering and i don't know if that's a part of the tennessee tech

00:56:43.300 campus or not um there are you know there's a lot of different educational opportunities i know it's

00:56:51.400 a college town or that's a big part of why it's as big as it is but i'm not sure what all's offered

00:56:57.280 there what some of the specialties are and i know they have a large agricultural section to it

00:57:03.040 because just coming in the main road i take to get in gainsborough grade we pass quite a few

00:57:11.120 what would you what what you would just think is farmhouses or farmland and it they have signs to

00:57:17.920 say uh tennessee tech so-and-so college of blah blah blah or so-and-so department of blah

00:57:26.880 in relation to like agricultural things so um they definitely have lots of

00:57:32.880 that that aspect to it and it makes sense it's a rural college

00:57:40.720 just looking at the chat room here uh rachel asks is there a date for cigarette yet

00:57:47.520 negative it's in july matter of fact law speaker was

00:57:51.600 asking me about that just the other night uh i will get on figuring that out um

00:57:58.880 probably so uh yeah we'll work on getting a solid date for that here in the next few days i'll try

00:58:06.720 to get get people on that i'd like it i'd like people to know as far out as they can so folks

00:58:12.640 can arrange to travel because we'd love to see you guys out there um

00:58:18.560 yeah i think i think you and the kids would really really like it there it's neat uh jill so

00:58:25.920 it's a really cool spot i'm glad you're asking so many questions i'm

00:58:29.360 glad so many people are asking questions getting getting excited for people to actually move out

00:58:33.760 there and be my future neighbors um next question we've got up can you talk to us about mcnalen

00:58:44.080 statues what motivated you to get them can you tell us about the process

00:58:52.320 it was a process that's for sure you know yes and no so yeah i'll talk about that um

00:59:03.760 I mean, all of this is what motivated me to get them in a, what Steve and his wife Sheila have done by creating the AFA.

00:59:26.380 What Steve has done by his relationship with the All-Father Odin and his reforging of Al-Satru and the work that he and Sheila did to create the Al-Satru Folk Assembly and to tend it for so many years. 0.56

00:59:43.980 in a way it quite literally has changed the world it certainly changed the world and changed my life 0.74

00:59:59.900 I wouldn't be here doing what I'm doing none of us would be if not for the work that they put in

01:00:05.720 and that's certainly motivated it's something that I've wanted us to have for forever

01:00:13.460 um the means for it seemed out of reach for for a long time but we have been extremely blessed by

01:00:25.620 just blessings from our from the icr um and generosity from our members from you guys

01:00:34.420 who maybe aren't members but still like to donate to help us do things

01:00:39.140 it's been very much appreciated and i started to look around to see what was what was realistic to

01:00:45.140 get done um so they're both uh life-size bronze statues and looking to get that done looked

01:00:58.100 certainly to get it done domestically looked next to impossible to do at a price point that

01:01:06.100 that uh that we were anywhere near being able to achieve but um there was a company out of

01:01:13.300 China that was doing uh bronze life-size bronze statues of of people and it looked and seemed far

01:01:23.620 too good to be true but I'm like all right let's give it a try let's see let's see what we can do

01:01:28.360 here let's check it out um they were fantastic to work with um you know they gave me a ridiculous

01:01:40.060 quote on both of them that was very very doable very reasonable not just for the metal involved

01:01:47.200 but for the shipping them over and, you know,

01:01:53.540 having an artist custom from a fairly limited amount of photographs do this

01:02:02.520 sculpture and do the, do the work. I'm very, very impressed.

01:02:07.540 They did a really great job.

01:02:12.460 Again,

01:02:13.140 until they were physically here

01:02:15.260 and I saw pictures of somebody I knew touching them.

01:02:18.980 It's all too good to be true.

01:02:21.800 And I reserve a little bit of doubt.

01:02:23.880 I don't want to praise that ice till it's crossed, 0.68

01:02:25.900 especially that ice from a Chinese internet company.

01:02:30.700 But I got to say their customer service

01:02:34.900 was awesome the entire time.

01:02:36.760 there was this super glamorized studio picture of this Chinese lady who was talking to me that had

01:02:46.980 some name like Elizabeth or Karen or some not her real name and so I'm pretty sure that that's not

01:02:55.640 what the person looked like I was speaking to and not what they were named but whoever was

01:02:59.740 was very nice very communicative the whole way through if I had questions wanted to work with

01:03:05.720 every step of the way on pictures of things and running things by me and doing any kind of

01:03:11.480 redo if there's something i wasn't satisfied with um only problem was and this is something i've

01:03:19.640 noticed dealing with asian business people here and abroad they want so much to 0.77

01:03:31.080 please the consumer and tell you what you want to hear that they're a little bit over overly 0.99

01:03:35.240 optimistic as far as uh timelines so they kept telling me you know how soon it would be done

01:03:42.360 and then that date kept getting pushed back and pushed back and pushed back and pushed back

01:03:48.200 all in all they got it done and them shipped over here on site and erected faster than i thought

01:03:53.640 possible but because they kept telling me earlier deadlines that made that a little bit challenging

01:04:00.680 And they would have just told me, hey, take a year. Oh, but wait, guess what? We can get it done in nine months. I would have been stoked. That would have been awesome. Instead, they're like, I would get it done in like two months, maybe three, maybe five. And they push it out.

01:04:16.940 Either way, their lovely process went pretty smooth.

01:04:23.980 They took photographs and dimensions that I told them and were able to really do an amazing job with it.

01:04:34.500 Like I said, they gave me picture updates every step of the way.

01:04:38.340 It was really interesting.

01:04:39.200 I was unaware of tariffs and taxes and stuff when you have something shipped by boat.

01:04:46.940 It was really interesting because you've got to get like a customs agent to, you've got to pay some middleman to take care of customs paperwork.

01:04:58.280 And we learned a lot from that process.

01:05:01.260 And Witten Dan Young helped me with that.

01:05:04.000 I was traveling when some of the nuts and bolts things on the delivery of that had to happen.

01:05:09.500 So he helped me arrange a lot of that.

01:05:11.780 A number of guys stepped up to help out with that.

01:05:14.120 But Witten's Vaughn went out in the middle of Yule, took time away from his family to get those set up so we could kind of present those as a Yule gift to the McNallans.

01:05:24.980 it was very important to me that that was one of the first things that got done to where we

01:05:32.740 literally build this we build the home of victory we build our center around them around honoring

01:05:41.660 them around that around that nod of respect to the people that got us here and you know made

01:05:52.060 that a focus of what we built around and built from so that being kind of a cornerstone of

01:05:57.540 Sigurheim was really important yeah it was an interesting process uh the weekend spawn came

01:06:05.300 down to work it rained the entire time so we were out there it's just sprinkled like it was a mist

01:06:11.980 but it was an all-day mist so we were wet the entire day it wasn't super cold but i mean it

01:06:17.380 like 35 40 degrees so it was a little chilly when you're wet and it's interesting now because it's

01:06:23.220 like in the middle of the field relatively speaking if you count both fields right next to the road

01:06:30.900 like five feet from the ditch so every single person that drives by if they've never been

01:06:36.020 down that road before they stop and to be fair you'd stop too if you were driving down this

01:06:42.900 random country road and these life-size bronze statues were next to the road but we've had no

01:06:51.220 no issues no you know malcontents or anything like that it's just been people curious of why

01:06:57.860 there's random statues in the middle of the field but it's been fun conversation piece for sure

01:07:06.100 yeah so uh earlier somebody asked you know how has the development of sigerheim gone

01:07:11.140 One, something that can't be overstated is groundwork for interaction with the community

01:07:19.560 has happened.

01:07:21.920 Are people who have been out there either staying or camping or working or folks at

01:07:27.880 events or the folks who erected the statues have had opportunities to have conversations

01:07:33.180 with the neighbors, to build relationships with local folks, to get a feel for the community

01:07:42.340 that we're getting involved in, but also for them to get a feel from us and the difference

01:07:49.260 or similarity between what the media might want to say about us versus who we actually

01:07:56.880 are and what we actually believe.

01:07:58.320 And that's been really productive from what I've heard from folks.

01:08:04.140 we've had some really good people there make some really good connections

01:08:07.660 and really good impressions and that's vital for you know the work we have to do there in the years

01:08:13.500 to come an interesting process when beginning last summer splc wrote the article about sigerheim

01:08:22.380 dock's location uh best part was they mentioned the white truck driving back and forth all the

01:08:28.140 darn time and that's fine but so it went all over the county facebook groups there's a couple of

01:08:35.340 them we watched and it's funny because you know you'd see 200 comments on a post talking about us 0.97

01:08:44.700 and a very negative post talking about us but when you actually look at the 250 comments it's like

01:08:51.180 five people saying negative stuff and the other 100 people saying we don't know these people they

01:08:58.300 just moved here give them give them time to you know be people they don't believe the media type

01:09:05.420 stuff so by far and away that's the biggest thing is people luckily people don't believe a lot of

01:09:13.740 the trash media and people want to actually make an opinion about something based on

01:09:23.260 their interaction seeing it firsthand actually being there and i remember right after siger

01:09:31.260 blot last year i came back and i was chatting with my landlord and i was mentioning that we

01:09:37.580 just had this big thing up at our at the property because i mentioned we had we'd had a property up

01:09:42.060 at whitleyville that's where i went a lot and he's like oh yeah i had a buddy who was out hunting out

01:09:47.180 out over that direction and he mentioned a whole lot of cars in the field and you know from that

01:09:52.540 that was like a month after the splc article so i'm like yeah my landlord he he he does

01:09:59.580 it doesn't matter people people worry and people worry unnecessarily

01:10:05.180 yeah and you know i i can't blame people for

01:10:15.100 being concerned when they read articles by media that maybe they've grown up trusting

01:10:23.100 throughout their lives what is useful is in almost every one of these circumstances people are

01:10:30.460 challenged to i guess realize the amount that the media just lies to folks

01:10:46.380 the media is not an honest broker and has not been for quite some time unfortunately often we've been

01:10:55.020 victim of some of that but it if it is useful if these people check it out and find out that

01:11:06.120 they've not been given honest information it helps them every step of the way to

01:11:13.920 unraveling things that they've been told that are untrue um and eventually hopefully to come

01:11:22.460 home to house are true or come home to just a better way of living outside of um outside of the

01:11:32.620 woke degenerate state that our society finds itself in in the wolf age and that's that's a

01:11:40.980 nice thing so this one's kind of for both of us let's go first on this nick which countries have

01:11:47.200 you visited and which countries are on your bucket list to one day visit and why western or non-western

01:11:55.840 well um i did a little trap in college i did a little travel and i had the opportunity to

01:12:01.280 do a study abroad and i lived for three months in italy so adesso parlo italiano perché studiato

01:12:08.800 italiano per tre mes in italia ma after that um or during that time i ended up getting

01:12:17.920 my birthday was while i was over there so i took a little trip by myself spent four days three days

01:12:23.600 something like that in berlin in germany and then came back to italy and then technically

01:12:30.800 i landed in france for like a layover but i don't count that because i didn't leave the airport so

01:12:36.640 i don't count it and that's it other than the states um realistically where do i want to travel

01:12:44.240 the rest of europe i mean i don't really have much of a desire to go outside that

01:12:51.680 just because that's a lot and that's more than i'm ever going to get to do with my life so

01:12:57.200 i i'll keep it to you know the first couple on the list um i had other intentions of going

01:13:04.720 other places i got at one point in my life i got certified to teach english as a second language

01:13:10.400 and i applied to some jobs in honduras and korea china i got offered a job in china declined it

01:13:18.000 didn't pay enough but never ended up using that certification but so italy and germany

01:13:26.080 um yeah i've been really fortunate in my life traveling uh both domestically and abroad um

01:13:40.240 before i do that though uh ronald you're awesome ronald also donated um what three coffees to us

01:13:50.200 um thank you i am saying that a lot and i don't think i can i don't think i can really say that

01:13:59.620 enough thank you very much for your generosity um yeah i've been um been real fortunate i was

01:14:07.440 born and raised in alaska and as such your road tripping opportunities are really limited so if

01:14:16.020 want to travel almost all of it involves getting on a plane you know most even small travel is

01:14:22.100 flying from anchorage to seattle and then from there anywhere else you want to go

01:14:29.140 but no i get to travel a lot as a kid domestically i've been to canada that doesn't really count but

01:14:36.180 i say that that's no insult to to canadians it's just saying it's really close and it's between

01:14:42.100 alaska and the rest of the united states so i've done that trip a number of times been to mexico i've

01:14:47.620 been um first trip to europe i just turned between 20 and 21 i can't remember exactly what month i

01:15:02.020 went over um but i went over to england for a short amount of time by myself kind of exploring

01:15:10.280 I've been to Ireland a few years after that, which was awesome.

01:15:17.980 I went to New Zealand, which is really cool.

01:15:21.620 Very different.

01:15:22.800 That was a really neat adventure.

01:15:25.260 And with the AFA, I took one trip in, I believe, 2014 with our founder, Steve McNallan, with

01:15:33.580 Sheila McNallan and a couple of other folks who were involved at the time.

01:15:38.700 and we met up with members in denmark so i went over to denmark on that trip we drove down into

01:15:48.060 northern germany for a while which was cool so i got to go to germany and denmark

01:15:53.980 actually got to be the driver in uh in some of that trip which was cool it was neat i got to

01:16:02.700 drive on the autobahn over there i had this citroen van it could only go like 135 so that

01:16:13.820 was fast as i was able to go that's pedal to the metal um but it's still a lot of fun i don't it

01:16:20.940 seems like they try to mess with you over there because you think you can just go for great

01:16:25.500 distances at that speed but it's like they create these choke points that slows everybody way way

01:16:30.060 way down and then you can open back up again but that was kind of cool it's more than kind of it

01:16:34.700 was a really really cool trip and then um i want to say somewhere like 2018 i took another trip over

01:16:45.180 there with some members of afa leadership and we went to meet with our members primarily in sweden

01:16:53.820 but we flew into oslo norway we had some members there uh those folks showed us you know around

01:17:01.100 oslo fjord and a little bit there as we drove down into one member hans was awesome we thought

01:17:09.420 we were just getting picked up the airport and taken down to our hosts who were in uh in sweden

01:17:14.780 there um but hans you know took us on a little bit of a detour to just show us some cool norwegian

01:17:21.900 things on the way which is really neat it's stuff that i wouldn't have gotten to see otherwise so

01:17:29.180 yeah we got to see norway and then parts of sweden we were in the southwest of sweden and then we got

01:17:36.060 to travel across the southern portion of sweden over to stockholm and then spend some time in

01:17:41.900 stockholm go up to uh upsala and that was that was really nice so been fortunate that way as far as

01:17:50.060 bucket list places you know all the all the rest of europe absolutely um i think with things the

01:17:58.220 way they are though i would really like to see some more things in i guess central and eastern

01:18:04.700 europe i'd love to go to prague i've heard nothing but great things about how beautiful prague is

01:18:12.700 but yeah things over there europe uh things in the mediterranean specifically the european

01:18:17.260 part of the mediterranean but you know other stuff would be cool too i love to explore and

01:18:23.660 go on adventures so you know somebody's gonna fly me somewhere i'm not turning it down

01:18:29.100 but i think if i had my uh it was up to me most of my travel would be in uh in europe and

01:18:38.780 yeah but i i hope to get out there and do some more traveling i'm always

01:18:43.980 eager for us to build bigger groups of afa members places so that i can go visit our membership in

01:18:51.340 spots i think the next one on that list may be going to australia at some point to visit

01:18:56.860 our australian members that would be a nice thing to do um daniel asks i'll tell you go

01:19:06.380 can you share with us any advice on getting teens slash pre-teens involved and excited for outs of

01:19:14.700 so i think that has been that's not just an answer true question i think that's a religion question

01:19:22.220 generally that's something that all churches find themselves struggling to do is you know

01:19:31.100 people in that age group are pulled between a number of things they're not really settled

01:19:38.380 they want adventure and to explore and to figure things out and also that's you know the time

01:19:44.380 they're most influenced by you know what's cool with the society and the the friends they occupy

01:19:53.420 themselves with i think the one of the tricks is building friendships and relationships between

01:19:59.820 children who are involved in also true so that they don't find themselves

01:20:05.420 just having friends that have uh vastly different values than them but friends that have some

01:20:13.500 commonality and find stuff within the afa within ausitruda kind of have as a touchstone while they

01:20:21.580 go out and explore other stuff but those friendships amongst young people i think

01:20:26.140 that's a huge part of it i think giving um giving young people responsibilities and things to do

01:20:35.980 within the afa is important you know getting them to help with bloat to help with events to help with

01:20:42.940 hosting things to help be part of what's going on um one of the things that we have that's very

01:20:52.220 different than religions that other folks may find themselves in a point that our founder

01:21:00.140 steve mcnallen always liked to make asa true is a life embracing uh religion whereas some others

01:21:10.700 specifically abrahamic faiths but also some eastern faiths are life denying um

01:21:17.260 Um, if one of your core values is asceticism and, you know, abstinence from too much fun

01:21:29.500 and too much enjoyment and too much adventure and too much life and that life is all bad

01:21:36.620 and everything you want to do as a young man or a young woman is sinful and bad, it forces

01:21:41.780 a separation that we don't have um we obviously don't you know just saw my daughter on here a

01:21:48.740 little while ago i i don't think any father father does but i certainly don't want aubrey

01:21:54.740 when she's a teenager just go buck wild uh doing crazy things but getting the most out of life

01:22:02.980 isn't against our faith it's a part of our faith and i think that positions us a little bit better

01:22:10.900 but like i said building building relationships with other also true kids is going to be a key

01:22:18.180 factor in that um and i think getting the children before they become teens and preteens and post

01:22:33.380 teens and you know young 20-somethings to have an actual relationship with the isir to

01:22:41.620 have a spiritual life to where they talk to the gods to where they go before they're altered or

01:22:46.580 where they participate in our faith in a sincere way that's independent of their parents to where

01:22:54.820 they're not just an appendage of you know yeah they go to the hof because you told them get in

01:23:01.460 the car and they have to do what you say that's really important so the more we can make also true

01:23:08.820 real to our kids before they get to that point i think the better chance it has to stick and also

01:23:16.340 on the on the off chance that you know people go astray and they get distracted and especially at

01:23:21.780 that age but if that foundation is laid they have a better likelihood of coming back to it and

01:23:28.340 recognizing that as as home base to come back to uh nick do you have any thoughts on that

01:23:35.940 um i mean i think one of the major points that you made is finding ways to get them involved and

01:23:42.100 getting them and giving them like responsibilities and i i kind of see that especially um here in

01:23:49.220 tennessee we have one really awesome teenager who's really active and really involved in a

01:23:56.260 a lot of things especially specifically her paintings and all of that and she's done artwork

01:24:03.380 for a t-shirt that design that we did and everything and constantly doing donating and

01:24:14.260 such to our auctions and all of that and she's a very big part of the kindred out there that they

01:24:21.300 have in eastern tennessee with her family and some of the other families out there and i think she's

01:24:27.620 like the forefront of my mind because i i i i see her the most but we have others also that i'm i've

01:24:35.860 known that just so she's awesome i know the young lady that nick is talking about i don't know how

01:24:42.500 much of her you know name and personal business folks want us to get out there so i'll refrain

01:24:49.460 from doing that only for that reason because i want to just sing her praises i can't say enough

01:24:54.260 good about her um an amazing amazing artist like her stuff is beautiful i have two of her paintings

01:25:04.660 so i can i her stuff is amazing and it's amazing it's even better every time i see it um but

01:25:12.660 something and just that is kind of a test case her being involved helps build relationships with

01:25:20.100 other you know girls and young ladies in her age group to have somebody to be friends with

01:25:27.860 that's a positive influence on them to keep them anchored in what we're doing and i've seen that

01:25:33.460 with her specifically but that goes on wherever we have you know teenagers that are taking this

01:25:41.940 seriously and actively involved that that spreads in a way that comes off more authentic

01:25:50.820 than something that their parents are trying to you know get them to do it's something that they

01:25:56.020 see people in their peer group role modeling and that's really important um

01:26:03.540 um okay and then the next question from uh Finn Wraith would you consider or would you create

01:26:12.660 such villages in places like Europe too and other parts of the world like Australia or Canada and

01:26:18.900 other places absolutely I mean I think that's definitely part of our bigger vision of where

01:26:26.580 want the AFA to go. Different countries and places are different in their structuring,

01:26:39.840 in their rules on how those kind of things would take shape and go about. I think wherever we have

01:26:46.960 members we want them to cluster and build around a common place of worship and in effect be a afa 0.63

01:26:56.880 village even if that's you know a village within a village i've said this and i know this is

01:27:01.600 nobody's dream but sometimes it's people's reality and it just is what it is it's not wrong

01:27:07.440 it'd be cool if a bunch of urban afa members wanted to all get apartments in the same apartment

01:27:12.480 complex you know there's there's a lot of ways to do this right and some are closer to what you

01:27:19.680 have in your head than others any move you make to be closer to another afa member and you guys

01:27:26.560 bonding together over our faith that's that's a positive thing regardless of the shake shape that

01:27:33.440 it ends up taking and there's a lot of ways to do that right um as far as stuff for us to really get

01:27:39.200 behind we need those we need that seed we need that core to establish these things and build them

01:27:47.040 around and so that we would need to see much more activity from our international members

01:27:55.520 and we're always trying to build that and looking for ways to get that going

01:28:01.280 all of the restrictions related to covet 19 made that you know we had some really good momentum on

01:28:07.200 that in sweden before that um still working to pick that momentum back up uh the lack of traveling and

01:28:16.000 all of the hunkering down inside made made things a little bit more difficult during that time but

01:28:23.040 it is something we want to see absolutely i think an important thing to note and you you alluded to

01:28:28.960 it is the coming together in whatever way shape or form that that takes place also true in and of

01:28:36.160 itself is a community and a folk-based religion. It is inherently better when it's with other

01:28:50.120 people. Two people makes it better than one. A village makes it better than two people,

01:28:56.520 and so on and so forth it that is such a core part of the culture and the you know beliefs the

01:29:09.720 structure is through that um you know a lot of our i don't know the words that we would use are

01:29:17.480 strictly based on that like coming and luck and all of these words that you know we we say

01:29:26.600 and they're based on really the the group and the the outlook of the group so i think

01:29:35.040 in whatever way shape or form it does if it's in a city if it's in a you know isolated village if

01:29:42.660 it's in a village within a village if it's just in somebody's backyard but everybody lives within

01:29:47.320 20 30 minutes of each other and they can show up every weekend that's amazing yeah it all counts

01:29:54.440 i you know i've said it said it a million times i'll say it a million more um don't let perfect

01:30:01.400 be the enemy of good uh anything that you're doing that's getting more of our people closer

01:30:08.120 together building that community is all it's all a good thing our next question uh

01:30:17.320 But being a townie at heart, is Cookville decently walkable?

01:30:22.820 What say you, Nick?

01:30:24.820 Well, as Chris would know with us meeting, I don't walk much.

01:30:30.120 So for me, no.

01:30:32.440 And just by the way, when I go to Cookville,

01:30:37.300 generally I want to go to one place and then another place

01:30:40.600 and then another place.

01:30:41.580 And they're all five or ten minutes apart even by car

01:30:44.800 or four or five minutes apart by car.

01:30:46.520 they're a mile or two apart sure if you live in an area if you pick where you live you might have

01:30:54.840 20 or 30 different businesses that you could frequent all within a mile one of you know in

01:30:59.080 one way or another but then there's going to be hundreds of other businesses that you can't

01:31:03.880 frequent because they're not really within walkable distance or short walkable distance it's a normal

01:31:10.360 suburban town it's not meant to be yeah it doesn't have a dense city center it's not set up

01:31:22.200 like some of the east coast towns that are very old that were built around

01:31:26.340 like a trendy city center to where you walk and do all your stuff it's it's much more spread out

01:31:34.700 like a town out west um a little bit that way what is very walkable is gainsborough though

01:31:41.580 that's the little town that's close to uh to sigerheim it's that's absolutely you know it's

01:31:48.220 got that old um that old town center air part of it that's extremely extremely walkable

01:31:57.180 so that's kind of cool if that's what you want um

01:32:00.860 I forget the name of it, but we already scouted, excuse me, scouted out there's a pretty cool gym

01:32:09.140 in Cookville that I'm looking forward to going to. Cody adds that there's some surprisingly

01:32:18.540 affordable properties up for sale in Jackson County. I think you will find that that is in

01:32:24.540 fact case. Courtney points out Red Bull Springs has a few

01:32:35.940 hotels and they are nice. There you go. Wow.

01:32:54.540 Okay, so question. As a former member of the AFA twice, due to society and things taught to me,

01:33:08.280 I clung on to but have broken the mold and still find the AFA to be true, would me and my family

01:33:15.900 be welcome back? So first, the default answer to that is absolutely.

01:33:24.540 We want all of our people to come home. 0.99

01:33:28.760 People make choices that we wish they didn't make a lot of the time.

01:33:32.740 We always hate to see members leave for whatever reason it is.

01:33:37.100 And we always are very, very happy and very excited to see former members want to come back.

01:33:44.680 We would love to have you and your family come back.

01:33:47.260 Now, the asterisk is I don't know any detail on maybe why you left.

01:33:52.240 if there's more to the story that i don't know um like that's a thing so just kind of

01:34:03.040 so everybody knows and i think this is a good time for just put it out there

01:34:09.040 there with anything like this that you put your heart into and especially that starting out

01:34:17.280 as grassroots as the afa is you know still in that process it's a lot of drama and get a lot

01:34:26.540 of people and a lot of feelings and a lot of stuff there's a lot of people that have left on

01:34:32.900 there's a lot of people that have disappeared over the years that just broke contact there's a lot

01:34:39.400 people that left for you know that left amicably and and respectfully there's a lot of people that

01:34:47.560 have left you know making a big scene on their way out the door i can i can say there's a

01:34:56.600 very small handful of people that we wouldn't let come back and the reasons why we wouldn't let

01:35:03.880 people come back are very very few um

01:35:14.280 yeah i'm there any of the reasons that would prevent you from joining in the first place

01:35:21.160 you have to be a heterosexual white person um you have to

01:35:27.480 to practice also true or want to practice also true and you know the other things are really

01:35:38.760 few and far between we do try to check and make sure that you know any criminal record is not

01:35:47.720 shocking to the conscious conscience and not something that we would

01:35:52.040 would consider you to be safe around our families um you know anybody that finds themselves

01:36:01.280 as a sex offender wouldn't be welcome back

01:36:07.760 other than that there's there's not a lot the other thing is it is a couple of people and

01:36:13.520 again this isn't everybody who's broken bad with us it's just a couple of people that have

01:36:18.320 done things deliberately to hurt us in a shady way or have threatened to hurt us in a

01:36:27.840 you know existential fashion we got to protect ourselves against existential threats to our

01:36:33.040 existence but outside of those safety concerns either from the for the existence of the afa or

01:36:39.920 you know worried about sexual predation against kids other than that we would love to have all

01:36:45.760 of our members that were once members of the afa all come home we want all of our folk to come home

01:36:52.080 again there's you know there's a couple of things that prevent that but not many

01:36:58.000 people make mistakes and a lot of us especially you know i will say this some of our very best

01:37:03.840 members have had crises of faith have left thought the grass was greener somewhere else

01:37:10.960 done some soul searching figured out that it wasn't and have come home and turned out to be

01:37:16.820 some of the best people we have so you know i know the answer to your question yes please

01:37:22.080 reapply we would love to have you guys come home but to everybody else out there considering it

01:37:28.260 um stuff happens we've got to be bigger than that it's not about personal grudges

01:37:34.340 and it's not about butthurt.

01:37:38.580 We are priests of our gods

01:37:42.080 and we want to welcome our folk back home

01:37:46.060 to the church of the Iser.

01:37:48.820 And that truly is our mission

01:37:50.380 and that's what we're all about doing.

01:38:04.340 Sorry, just looking at the chat, catching up on some stuff.

01:38:07.920 Appreciate you guys with the happy birthday wishes for my daughter.

01:38:14.220 I don't understand this question.

01:38:16.020 Nick may understand it better.

01:38:18.080 Happy birthday.

01:38:19.080 Also, does this channel have a membership?

01:38:21.760 It has subscribers.

01:38:24.180 It doesn't have any kind of a paid membership.

01:38:26.540 It's not monetized in any way.

01:38:29.540 Is that what he's asking, do you think, Nick?

01:38:32.060 Yeah, that would be what he's asking.

01:38:34.340 YouTube setup has subscribers, and if you are monetized, you can have membership and offer them extra perks.

01:38:40.240 Yeah, as you said, YouTube's not monetized.

01:38:42.840 Theoretically, there's nothing stopping us from monetizing other than the unknown and the assumption that is based in what we've seen due to other people in that once you monetize, then they start actually putting their nose into people's business more.

01:39:02.580 when you monetize you open the door to the censorship on it there's a lot of reasons

01:39:09.460 that we would be scared of that just because the world we live in but i will say this youtube's

01:39:14.900 never given us a hard time on anything we've done we've never had any problem that way um

01:39:20.820 but it's not even that we do it's it's not even about us i've watched this when okay pause and

01:39:27.380 and be completely honest

01:39:28.560 it is because I think that we would

01:39:31.500 get scrutiny and there's topics

01:39:33.380 that we talk about that are not politically

01:39:35.440 correct to talk about

01:39:36.700 but beyond that

01:39:38.620 I've seen a lot of

01:39:41.460 other people who do have monetized channels

01:39:43.540 they get their stuff

01:39:45.340 their videos

01:39:47.360 taken down and pulled and they get

01:39:49.460 strikes for

01:39:50.420 really surprising things

01:39:53.500 like you can't

01:39:57.380 talk about like if you're doing if you're talking about crimes you have to say

01:40:05.060 SA because you aren't supposed to talk about sexual assaults you can't say murdered or

01:40:13.760 killed you have to say like unalived there's all these silly hoops that people completely

01:40:20.480 in the mainstream woke whatever people find themselves getting tripped up on because

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01:42:37.340 Ah, next question. Were those statues expensive? Yes, absolutely. But they were,

01:42:55.340 I'd say much less than a quarter as expensive as they would be if they were done

01:43:00.860 in the United States

01:43:03.260 by a United States company

01:43:04.480 yeah they were expensive

01:43:07.260 but they weren't

01:43:08.200 they were within our

01:43:10.940 range

01:43:11.900 I don't know why I'm being all cryptic

01:43:17.300 all in with the shipping and everything

01:43:19.520 for two statues

01:43:21.260 life size bronze

01:43:25.300 I think each of them weighed

01:43:27.080 around 400 pounds

01:43:29.520 all in i think it was just under 10 000 and for for that i think it's a very good price

01:43:37.200 it's certainly much much cheaper than we could have gotten domestically um

01:43:41.660 the follow-up is also do you have have we considered having statues of the gods or

01:43:48.360 historical figures of course we have absolutely love statues i would love to do that

01:43:53.860 um talking about it i think for the god statues if we get those done we may want to have that done

01:44:02.080 like 1.5 or double life size something like that where it's bigger than like a human life size

01:44:11.600 but that's absolutely something we've talked about and maybe in the future we can consider doing

01:44:16.500 it's a very big investment and not something that we've you know are able to do a lot of right now

01:44:22.500 but it was really important that we got that done for Steve and Sheila.

01:44:28.820 And we'd like to certainly do more statues in the future.

01:44:41.260 ETA on the merch shop, shirts, et cetera.

01:44:45.180 So I have been shaking that tree and hounding people this week quite a bit.

01:44:52.500 So I should have something very definitive to tell you by the end of the month, or there's different options that we need to do because it needs to happen and get out there. And if we're not able to do it the way we're currently trying, we'll try to figure something out.

01:45:07.360 But I think that we should have an answer by the end of the month on getting that up and running because it's something we've been steadily talking about and we do have plans. I'm sorry it's taken so long to get that back up and going.

01:45:22.500 so I'm going to switch up these two questions and I'm going to get this one first so we can

01:45:39.960 hear some Nick stuff because this is definitely a you question much more than it's a me question

01:45:45.720 can you both speak a bit to what is being done to safeguard the software slash data of the AFA

01:45:51.820 from potential hackers realistically i i'm not i'm not either the person to ask um i can think

01:46:02.060 of a few things but truly i don't know enough about that kind of thing to even know if i should

01:46:07.420 talk about that kind of thing um next time with erickson cliffs on he'd be the person to ask

01:46:13.980 unfortunately you can always email him see erickson at runestone.org and ask but i do not know

01:46:21.820 sufficient answers or what I could or should talk about so yeah short answer is um Nick's a lot of

01:46:32.860 our tech front-end guy and Cliff Erickson Witten Clifford Erickson is our back-end guy that deals

01:46:41.560 that a lot um so stuff certainly is being done um we have no reason to believe that there's ever been

01:46:53.480 a breach of any of our data that way but it is something that cliff tries to back up and take

01:46:59.960 care of as best he can from that tech end without making it you know within reason um

01:47:13.720 yeah because you say from from potential hackers most of the stuff that i'd have to

01:47:19.800 offer on it is more

01:47:21.240 more in the physical space like we our database is private we don't

01:47:34.760 share that with people outside of leadership uh if members want to be involved with other members

01:47:43.000 and network that way that's an optional thing that they're able to do and it also there's boxes on

01:47:49.080 the application that you checked that if you want to have that kind of data shared with other people

01:47:54.120 so you guys can get together if one party does and the other party doesn't then like for example if

01:48:00.360 you had clicked yes for networking but the guy that you want to network with hasn't then i would

01:48:05.880 give him your contact information if he wanted to contact you for you guys to get together and

01:48:11.080 that's how that would work um but yeah it's stuff that we protect and stuff legally talking with our

01:48:17.800 lawyer law speaker alan turnage who's also on the witten um that's not information we give out to

01:48:24.920 any people any agency any anything outside of afa leadership that needs that data to do our jobs

01:48:34.680 and we wouldn't do so unless somehow legally compelled to and in that scenario that'd be

01:48:41.240 a very serious conversation we'd be having with our lawyer we try to safeguard it as best we can

01:48:47.320 again with being reasonable um but on the specific technical safeguards it's not something that we

01:48:55.000 don't care about but it's just something a little bit outside of nick and my expertise it is

01:48:58.680 something that cliff is very aware of and has been since since the start and has been working pretty

01:49:07.400 steady on securing that and protecting that as best we can so he may have a better answer and so

01:49:13.480 that i'll have a better answer next time i've asked the question i will ask cliff to give

01:49:18.360 me kind of a rundown so that i understand that process a little bit better and share with you

01:49:22.600 guys um now back to a matt question can you travel to canada easily from alaska i don't know post

01:49:33.160 covid19 and in the crazy way the world has spiraled lately but i said i say that to say this um

01:49:47.720 i'm resisting the urge to yell down the hall uh to to ask mandy when we moved my mom's stuff out

01:49:54.440 here so for a time um my mother before she passed lived with my wife and i um and in order to do

01:50:02.520 that we had i flew up loaded her things onto a u-haul and drove her down that was a very easy

01:50:10.520 process the process had been very easy my entire life um time consuming the drive from anchorage

01:50:19.000 to you know the closest you know place you'd get in washington state is

01:50:31.240 she said mid-2018

01:50:35.320 apparently she's on it so i i was gonna guess 2018 but cool so that that was right in 2018

01:50:41.800 you can do it pretty reasonable it's a three day 16 hour a day driving all day kind of proposition

01:50:51.160 but the actual crossings were both very very easy for us with me as the driver

01:50:58.760 but again that was six years ago so i don't know what that looks like the world's gotten crazier

01:51:05.960 and coven 19 stuff made that process more complicated during that time but yeah growing up

01:51:13.160 and uh up to 2018 it was very easy

01:51:23.240 we got next

01:51:35.960 um okay i just read the splc hit piece that you referenced is sigerheim currently or going to be

01:51:47.480 registered as part of the 501c3 and the property tax free or what is the status idea on that um

01:51:55.480 yes it is and will be it's owned by the austro folk assembly and we are we are a church it is

01:52:01.800 church property um when we figure out ownership of space with people living on it that might look

01:52:14.200 different on how that's broken up when there's you know people's residences on the property so

01:52:24.200 excuse me i gotta sneeze

01:52:25.240 it apologies so yeah so we're looking into that we've been talking to

01:52:31.400 our lawyer on that getting figured out the best way to do that

01:52:37.480 but yeah the property that is

01:52:41.400 for housing for our priests and that is being used for religious purposes there is absolutely

01:52:48.600 a part of our 501c3 is and is protected from property taxes on that and yeah like I said

01:52:58.840 once there's other physical property there we'll have to see exactly how that shapes out we certainly

01:53:05.280 don't want to do anything legally questionable that's never something we're interested in so

01:53:10.680 we're trying to find the best legal ways to to structure that right now but the property itself

01:53:17.900 self absolutely is uh thoughts on Ravensfolk um I don't know all of the people that have joined

01:53:33.200 that or are part of that or go to their events I can say their foundation and the leaders that

01:53:40.640 founded it are very bad people who are dishonest and dishonorable and I think they're absolutely

01:53:48.860 terrible um it was done in a very shady and underhanded way by people who violated their

01:53:56.780 oaths and have grossly misrepresented the Astru Folk Assembly myself and many people that I care

01:54:05.240 in things that they know to be dishonest.

01:54:08.860 I really don't have anything nice to say

01:54:10.880 about the Ravensville people.

01:54:13.800 What about you, Nick?

01:54:17.060 The people who founded it or started it,

01:54:19.860 the people that are in charge,

01:54:21.840 hurt me and hurt a lot of people that I care about

01:54:25.640 with a lot of lies,

01:54:28.080 with a lot of stretches of truth,

01:54:31.600 and a lot of, I don't know,

01:54:35.240 Just horrible, horrible stuff.

01:54:38.900 Other people that I've seen go that way since then, I just don't know why.

01:54:50.120 And it confuses me so much.

01:54:53.720 The, I don't know, the underhanded, shady stuff that's going on from the top.

01:55:02.200 hurt a lot of people and doesn't do any good?

01:55:11.420 You know, I'll say this.

01:55:15.440 There's an honest way to disagree.

01:55:17.480 There's an honest way to leave something and go do something different

01:55:22.020 if it's more to your liking.

01:55:25.220 But to do it through dishonesty,

01:55:28.740 The dishonesty and oath-breaking and being just bad people is not an auspicious way to

01:55:39.780 found anything that you're trying to do.

01:55:43.140 But again, since their very dramatic exit from the AFA, not really sure what all they're

01:55:54.920 up to.

01:55:55.340 I hear whispers here and there about stuff, and I don't know a ton about it.

01:56:03.320 I do know that it took a certain element within the AFA that was very toxic and removed that element, and I'm thankful for that.

01:56:15.740 I don't like the way it happened, but the group dynamic is a lot healthier and a lot better without some of those elements.

01:56:25.340 so there's that and i think that's probably a good thing uh i gotta do you think it is possible

01:56:33.100 things will get so bad that it will no longer be legal to have a whites only organization

01:56:39.420 and what will the afa do if that happens um so

01:56:45.260 So I don't know. I think anything's possible. And I think that the government can decide

01:57:01.640 to do not legal things. I don't think that it will be illegal for a church to base its

01:57:10.500 membership on whatever sincerely held beliefs the church has within the united states that's

01:57:18.660 fundamental it's one of the fundamental constitutional guaranteed rights that we have as americans

01:57:26.260 but you know to answer your question will no longer be legal no the constitution says it's

01:57:33.220 always legal um whether the government will always abide by those rules or not i don't think anybody

01:57:42.740 can definitively say um what will the afa do if that happens that's a bridge that we'll have to

01:57:54.100 cross when we come to it um we try to game out a lot of what ifs because i think it's always a

01:58:01.940 good idea for us to be prepared for things um so shut shutting down or stopping doing what we're

01:58:13.300 doing or not be the afa is not the answer exactly how to navigate those waters is something that

01:58:21.540 we'll have to deal with as they occur if they occur but hopefully that doesn't happen we see

01:58:26.820 no indication of that happening in that way like i said we are very much within our constitutional

01:58:34.580 protections to practice our faith in the way that we truly believe it ought to be practiced in and

01:58:41.300 that's what we're doing and the the follow-up comment that i see just after yours by finn

01:58:51.540 wraith is is a point well taken well i don't think they can stop us fully because they can't

01:58:57.380 stop people from having meetings at their own house or any place they own and that's the thing

01:59:04.500 there's a lot of layers there but those of us who are dedicated to the iser will continue to worship

01:59:12.420 the ic if we have to do that in our homes if we have to do that in a different legal configuration

01:59:20.580 if we have to you know change the nature of how the group is registered there's a lot of different

01:59:27.780 things depending on how it goes down but we're going to continue to associate with who we feel

01:59:35.620 is appropriate to associate with for our religious practices and we're going to continue to honor the

01:59:43.460 icr no matter where we find ourselves or what situation we find ourselves in

01:59:52.420 um okay next here's great answer uh in reference to coming back um have you considered having a

01:59:59.380 position below a folk builder as a point of contact for a state uh asking from colorado

02:00:06.900 um yes but we haven't really put a name to that we all so hear me everybody on here we absolutely

02:00:20.040 want that we talk about that at least a couple of times per week or at least I'm involved in

02:00:26.640 conversations about that several times per week we'd love to have people that may not want to do

02:00:32.460 of the work that's involved in folk building but to help us facilitate people getting together in

02:00:39.500 their area we talked about me and myself and then go the trend east we're talking about that last

02:00:48.780 night i think earlier in the day i was talking to whitten daniel young and his wife heather about

02:00:56.380 that like it's almost a daily conversation that we're trying to find spots where we don't have

02:01:00.860 folk builders but where we do have members that would like to you know if we help them set up a

02:01:06.460 moot and drive people to it and they're you know like encourage locals to go to it and you know

02:01:13.660 maybe you'd be the one to show up and host it it's absolutely something that we want um you know

02:01:20.460 nick do you experience any of that in your folk building efforts um realistically i find

02:01:29.580 And most of the states that have active membership have folk builders.

02:01:40.060 And even the attempts that we, when we do try to do stuff outside of those, like if people travel, we have lots of folk builders that will travel a state or two over.

02:01:52.640 Nothing happens, nothing comes of it.

02:01:54.660 now if we've missed somebody i'm thrilled for it um i did i had you know we have all kinds of people

02:02:04.640 we have i don't know three or four non folk builders that help us in various aspects

02:02:12.320 security or like running background checks or doing some tech stuff or doing art or doing all

02:02:23.320 of the staking things Mandy does. 0.95

02:02:25.740 She's not tactically leadership, but she might as well be.

02:02:29.340 She's the, you know, one person we look up to

02:02:31.700 if we're not looking up to you.

02:02:33.660 So there's all kinds of things people can do

02:02:38.540 without being called a bulk builder.

02:02:40.400 And I think if we could find a nifty title for it

02:02:43.660 that's cooler than staff, I'm okay with that too.

02:02:48.280 Well, so that, and that opens stuff up.

02:02:50.520 there's lots of things that the afa needs help with and you don't need to be a folk builder to

02:02:55.180 do those things if you're interested reach out to your local folk builder or reach out to me

02:02:59.820 personally and we can try to get you squared away with you know something to do because we there's

02:03:06.440 a lot of ways that you can help us and that you can help the icer without being a folk builder

02:03:11.440 and that's cool and we would welcome it biggest thing i think in spots you mentioned colorado

02:03:18.420 So we'd love to have a guy in Colorado, love to have a full folk builder, but if not, just somebody that wants to help get people together, we would love that.

02:03:28.680 Love to have that in like Oregon, Hawaii, Australia, Southern California.

02:03:48.820 massachusetts

02:03:53.460 i throw virginia in there virginia and we're working on that um

02:04:04.820 michigan there's a couple of places that we really need somebody

02:04:10.660 and those are the ones that come to you know the top of my mind but no we'd love to have

02:04:15.220 help like that anywhere you find yourself if it's something you want to do please reach out we can

02:04:19.460 try to make it happen um the wolf throne asks matt what is your favorite interview that you've done

02:04:29.700 personally i love the t-jump interview and i think every outsider should watch it

02:04:35.620 well thank you i'm glad that you enjoyed that um

02:04:38.740 it's been a while since i've been interviewed by folks um my favorite uh was i did a couple

02:04:52.980 of them but my favorite was the uh the one with reverend jack ashcraft on uh what's the name of

02:05:01.540 that show he had expedition truth i think um it was really really nice because he was just a great

02:05:11.860 you know seemed like a really good guy he's a good guy every time he dealt with us

02:05:17.700 respectful guy and again he didn't want to talk about racism or whatever woke

02:05:24.180 agenda things to talk about he wanted to talk about our faith he wanted to talk about

02:05:28.260 also true and the also true focus and i love doing that um so there's been a number of interviews

02:05:35.140 that have been good that one i really really enjoyed the most that was my favorite um the

02:05:40.820 teach-up interview has gotten steadily a lot of people watching it i think it's gotten a few eyes

02:05:45.940 on it that's been nice and i was happy to have the conversation um so yeah i would absolutely

02:05:57.380 second you're you know encouraging folks to to listen to it um yeah that's

02:06:10.020 nick do you can you think of an interview that i've done that you think was the best or most

02:06:15.700 useful is this where i say i've never watched any of your interviews ouch um

02:06:24.180 How do you even know what Austro is?

02:06:29.980 I don't need to listen to you talk to somebody else.

02:06:33.880 I can just go talk to you.

02:06:35.580 You can, absolutely.

02:06:37.140 I'm just trying to think back on ones.

02:06:39.500 I think, you know, probably the most.

02:06:41.720 I'd say the one I see the most pop up.

02:06:44.500 Like sometimes it'll pop up in my feed.

02:06:47.040 Or I just saw it got posted recently by, I guess,

02:06:50.340 go the ashby to one of our other social medias or maybe somebody was just commenting on it recently

02:06:56.260 was the interview i don't know which one this is the interview with the atheist dude

02:07:00.260 i don't know what yeah that's the t-jump one okay that's that's the t-jump one yeah it had

02:07:06.100 it actually had some comments recently um on odyssey vk rumble one of those sites

02:07:12.100 um people basically just saying it was a great interview um glad folks liked it i i did see i

02:07:19.620 I saw parts of your actual last interview that I believe was your last

02:07:23.860 interview, the desert heathen one.

02:07:25.860 That was an interesting one just because of, you know, I don't,

02:07:30.400 I didn't keep up with him after the fact.

02:07:32.500 I know like the opinions that he thought he had beforehand versus the

02:07:36.780 opinions he at least said he had during the interview.

02:07:41.560 And I watched part of it.

02:07:44.520 You kind of, I don't know.

02:07:45.960 You made him, he at least acted like you made him shift his view on us by a little bit.

02:07:52.680 I don't know how well it stuck, but that was an interesting one just because, you know,

02:08:00.620 you did an interview with somebody that had like 500 or like very few followers and it

02:08:07.180 was an interesting interview.

02:08:09.060 Yeah, I've been really fortunate.

02:08:12.300 i've done a lot of different interviews with a lot of different kind of folks from different

02:08:17.020 backgrounds and different one that was really cool that never never aired or if it did i could never

02:08:25.180 figure out where it was was with this young couple in moscow that wanted to do an interview with me

02:08:31.580 and i was up you know super late one night because the the uh um time difference but

02:08:42.220 that was just really nice to talk to them about you know alsatru and what it was like there versus

02:08:49.100 what it's like here and some different things so that's that's really that was kind of an

02:08:55.660 interesting one i don't think it was you know necessarily interesting for the listener but it

02:08:59.340 was really interesting for me and for those those folks i hope it was interesting for them um

02:09:07.900 one of the you know some of the most impactful interviews i've done have been

02:09:15.100 not what i've said but what i haven't said that they think that i'm gonna

02:09:23.340 like they think i'm gonna say something ridiculous or that

02:09:29.340 we're going to come off in a certain way and we haven't like they're looking for strange

02:09:36.080 gotcha material that they didn't get i think that's you know the best is is on that guardian

02:09:42.520 piece they interviewed me for forever and i was on there for seconds so i think they didn't get

02:09:48.260 what they were looking for and the lack of interview there i think is probably one of

02:09:52.020 more helpful ones to us uh next question is um has any afa building ever been vandalized um

02:10:07.780 so that's an odd question because i don't think in the way that

02:10:15.060 you might think or worry that it has been by um

02:10:22.020 yeah by uh so okay the one time someone broke into thorshoff they broke a window and went

02:10:40.140 in and stole a horn that we had and we have theories about who that might have been um

02:10:54.220 we've got security systems up in all of the hoffs now to help us better understand that

02:11:00.540 but that was a one-off incident and then we also had

02:11:04.460 um a string of a couple instances at odenshof when it first opened and they weren't vandalism

02:11:14.060 as much as they were people break we had a couple of break-ins through broke a broken window

02:11:23.900 and that so i can't say who did that but i can say this

02:11:29.740 um they stole a pork loin and they stole some smoked oysters so it wasn't really vandalism

02:11:38.380 they stole like i said some cans of smoked oysters and a pork and a pork loin

02:11:45.340 those break-in alerts we got from odenshoff um that community is a economically impoverished

02:11:55.660 community there and there's a lot of methamphetamine use there there was a meth like a squatter meth

02:12:04.140 camp a few lots away from us that was consistently problematic we had a really big rain at one point

02:12:14.540 and it kind of washed the squatter meth camp away and since that happened

02:12:21.500 and coinciding with when that happened any of those problems stopped happening 0.99

02:12:27.740 so that's the worst we've had so we've been very fortunate

02:12:30.800 so I will make one comment in that I am ever since winter nights I'm missing a 10 by 10 pop-up tent

02:12:45.400 I can do nothing but blame it on

02:12:47.940 the, you know, the

02:12:49.900 landmites. They took it off somewhere.

02:12:52.260 I have no reason to suspect it was any

02:12:53.860 vandalism, but it's missing.

02:12:55.700 I don't know where I put it.

02:12:58.500 The tent that we put over the

02:12:59.940 kitchen.

02:13:02.880 Nobody

02:13:03.080 took it. I don't know where it's at.

02:13:05.700 I don't know.

02:13:06.320 Fair enough.

02:13:08.380 I don't know where...

02:13:12.080 Oh, okay. Now I see it.

02:13:15.400 So S is in North Texas. He says, Shea McCurdy left the AFA for Ravensfolk. It's actually not true.

02:13:26.160 Shea was removed from the AFA a number of months before Ravensfolk started.

02:13:32.920 um but he covered an area kind of in north texas texas is interesting because it is a big

02:13:47.680 it's a big area so some folk builders may not be in texas but may be closer to you than folk

02:13:57.160 builders who are in Texas um Nick answered that Patrick Wynn is our uh Texas folk builder right

02:14:07.720 now at present and he is in like yeah I think he'd be closer to the the Shea area that that

02:14:22.900 covered by him. He's in the Dallas Fort Worth area. That's the closest you've got in North

02:14:30.140 Texas. I was going to say, if you're in like the Amarillo area, you're kind of out there in the

02:14:36.000 middle of nowhere. I still think Patrick is your closest that you've got. So yeah, Patrick Wynn

02:14:42.660 us who I'd reach out to. Um, yeah. And that's, um, P W Y N N E at runestone.org for anybody,

02:14:56.460 any Texans that may be listening to this on a podcast version.

02:15:12.660 Sorry, guys.

02:15:16.200 Just looking at the chat, trying to keep up with what we got and where we're at.

02:15:31.920 All right.

02:15:32.600 Um, yeah, Chris says he's been receiving messages from Joe Drodos.

02:15:57.400 Is he still one of our folk builders?

02:15:59.340 I was given the impression that he wasn't.

02:16:01.660 You were mistaken.

02:16:02.600 he is absolutely still one of our folk builders he is out of uh

02:16:10.760 eastern ohio

02:16:14.600 i don't know if you call it northeastern ohio says i would just say northern i think it's

02:16:19.880 kind of north central whatever that big town is up there yeah anyways yeah joe's still folk building

02:16:27.080 um and doing good for us uh i don't know if somebody was maybe confused or confusion was oh

02:16:33.720 it's absolutely up north anyways yes looking at a map i'm sorry my ohio geography is not what it

02:16:40.920 uh perhaps could be but yeah he's in northeastern ohio uh yeah joe's a good guy and he's still very

02:16:46.600 Thank you very much, Folkwoods.

02:16:59.500 Nick, do you have any thoughts you'd like to leave folks with this evening?

02:17:04.280 Well, we got two more questions if you don't want to skip them.

02:17:07.620 Nuh-uh.

02:17:08.820 Yeah, we do.

02:17:10.000 Not on my end.

02:17:11.200 Not where my producer had sent them to me.

02:17:13.500 Well, I haven't sent you any of the questions tonight.

02:17:16.420 No, you have not.

02:17:17.820 Go to comments and click start.

02:17:21.180 What?

02:17:22.020 That's not where we put them.

02:17:23.140 We put them in private chat.

02:17:24.300 That's where I put them all night.

02:17:25.200 You hush your mouth.

02:17:26.640 Maybe that's why I haven't seen them show up.

02:17:29.060 All right.

02:17:29.320 You've been doing good.

02:17:30.100 This bickering does not occur when Nick is behind the camera,

02:17:33.600 only when he's in front of the camera.

02:17:37.140 Oh, I run my mouth the entire time I'm behind the camera, too.

02:17:40.440 Oh, I bet.

02:17:41.580 These people just aren't treated to it.

02:17:43.780 Hold on one sec. 0.99

02:17:45.160 Hey, baby.

02:17:45.900 you go to bed come up i love you sweetheart sleep good

02:17:55.020 all right

02:18:00.700 looks like we do have two questions matt and nick are you familiar with the concept of non-duality

02:18:08.380 and do you have any thoughts on it nick are you familiar with that concept and do you have thoughts

02:18:14.700 i am as of the asking of this question um i googled it uh it's apparently based on some

02:18:23.320 sanskrit word that means not to and it's basically just that everything is connected

02:18:28.860 and the cosmos and the individual are one and

02:18:33.520 I tend to

02:18:37.980 focus

02:18:39.740 on Asatru

02:18:41.680 and not on the rest

02:18:44.200 of

02:18:44.480 philosophy and

02:18:47.820 spirituality.

02:18:50.720 But as

02:18:52.080 a general thing,

02:18:53.920 the interconnectedness

02:18:56.060 of everything,

02:18:58.000 I don't disagree from

02:18:59.680 a grand

02:19:02.020 overarching view um things are connected things cycle cause and effect karmic relation or you

02:19:14.660 know what you put into it comes out weird things happen yeah i uh

02:19:24.900 So, the reason I threw it to Nick first is so I could Google it.

02:19:40.680 Even Google makes it very nebulous and nonspecific and talks about how there's lots of different ways.

02:19:47.440 So, there may be a really particular version of it that you're referring to.

02:19:52.460 After looking at what the thing says, I am familiar with that concept of, you know, all things being part of God or whatever.

02:20:10.100 There is always a lot of connectedness to things.

02:20:14.460 things uh also true is a holistic faith to where all parts of our life and our relationships

02:20:23.340 should synergize and be connected to one another in that way but

02:20:33.180 to the point of non-individuality which i don't know if you're suggesting or not

02:20:40.780 i don't think that's legitimate i think that's ridiculous i think there's a lot of ways to

02:20:51.100 obfuscate moral responsibility by claiming connectedness with things we very much

02:20:59.500 are opposed to concepts of equality and we're very much opposed to

02:21:11.820 the idea of universal sameness and i think that my understanding of non-duality is making everything

02:21:22.620 a gray-brown mass of non-distinction.

02:21:33.920 We celebrate difference.

02:21:36.160 We celebrate distinction.

02:21:37.740 We celebrate individuality.

02:21:40.440 And our individuality is what gives us value

02:21:43.320 and allows us to grant value to others.

02:21:46.960 it's what makes

02:21:49.380 if I'm God

02:21:51.380 and Nick's God

02:21:52.740 and God's God

02:21:54.260 and the table's God

02:21:55.780 then nothing really makes a lot of sense

02:21:59.340 if we have 1.00

02:22:01.100 God's, the Iseer 0.63

02:22:02.640 Nick is Nick, I'm me

02:22:04.800 and the table's the table

02:22:06.020 then Nick and I can engage

02:22:09.000 in gift cycles

02:22:10.800 with the Iseer

02:22:12.360 and one

02:22:14.320 sentient being

02:22:16.760 is able to interact with another sentience

02:22:20.460 in a meaningful relationship.

02:22:23.760 If we're all just the same,

02:22:26.720 it kind of takes away the point of a lot of living. 0.99

02:22:31.540 So much of what separates Ausitru from Eastern faiths,

02:22:37.920 even Eastern faiths that distantly trace their roots

02:22:41.360 back to a similar source, 1.00

02:22:43.340 We don't want to become one with all of the things.

02:22:47.880 We want to maintain our identity and maintain our individual self while participating as a willful participant in life, in the cosmos, in those things.

02:23:01.700 when everything is just the same and there's no distinction

02:23:09.060 it takes away all of the individual agency when carried to its extreme an individual

02:23:17.160 agency is what makes us noble it's what makes us Aryan people so that's that's my uh takeaway on

02:23:28.720 that. So, just received The Steady Have-Em-All by Carrie Overton. How does the AFA rate this

02:23:45.020 for studying the words of Overton? I don't know. I have not read that. I had no idea

02:23:50.820 that Carrie Overton put out that book. Nick, are you aware of it and do you have thoughts

02:23:56.760 on it i i have heard of her and maybe it but i have not read it either um

02:24:06.920 unfortunately there are way too many books in the day there are way too many books out there

02:24:10.680 for for any of us to read them all and we have a i don't know if you want to study the

02:24:18.600 hobble ball there's a seven episode dns thing all about studying the hobble ball breaking it

02:24:24.200 down stands in my stanza that's where i i focus yeah i don't think i can really speak intelligently

02:24:33.240 on it i've i've met carrie overton she used to be involved with us many years ago um

02:24:40.760 i have no idea how good or not good that material might be i have i also have not

02:24:47.080 heard anybody like i haven't heard any feedback or any word on the street about it either

02:24:51.880 And the next question, is there any Ausitru philosophy?

02:25:02.880 This is something that has always been a personal, I think pet peeve cheapens it more than it is.

02:25:16.520 What does that mean?

02:25:19.640 And that's, you know, that's a real question.

02:25:21.380 And what is, everything has a philosophy to it in its most basic sense.

02:25:35.560 Every person who contemplates life on a deeper level is a philosopher.

02:25:41.660 But there's obviously people we refer to as philosophers and others we don't.

02:25:46.960 So I don't really know what counts.

02:25:50.340 There's absolutely an outstreet worldview.

02:25:53.640 There's absolutely an approach to understanding our existence, our relationships to one another, and our relationships to the gods.

02:26:02.540 i don't know exactly what we're looking for with the question and the best way to

02:26:14.060 to answer it

02:26:18.100 i think that also true philosophy or the afa philosophy specifically

02:26:26.000 has been expressed i've tried to express it as best i can over the past 93 episodes and

02:26:34.040 will continue to do so but i'm not other than that i'm not sure what we're looking for with

02:26:42.680 the question i don't mean to dodge it but i don't there's absolutely a way of viewing the world and

02:26:48.360 and we've, you know, gone over that and will continue to.

02:27:00.120 Next question I see is what advice would you give

02:27:02.380 to someone who lives in a racially diverse place

02:27:05.060 like Baltimore where non-whites are the majority,

02:27:08.060 crime is rampant and moving isn't a viable option?

02:27:14.840 Nick, what do you say to that?

02:27:16.160 i mean i to be fair i i stop it at why is moving not a viable option um if it's not a viable option

02:27:27.520 take steps to make it a viable option if you want to leave if you don't want to leave then

02:27:34.400 embrace living where you're living um i just don't i don't i don't see much of an issue um 0.64

02:27:44.120 sure if you live in some ghetto violent part of town then um moved to another part of town 0.67

02:27:52.680 you said you couldn't leave baltimore but that's to me everything's by choice it's by choice i

02:27:58.080 don't understand the concept of it's not a viable option simply because i made the choice that

02:28:07.120 doesn't make any sense because it was the best thing for me and there's always a reason if you

02:28:15.280 want to leave if you don't then find friends find community build community ask questions talk to

02:28:24.600 talk to the people in your community that you know you can relate to and get along with

02:28:30.280 on some level and be a beacon of light so that the good people that are still there

02:28:41.720 can interact with you so

02:28:51.960 nick of course he lives in the ghetto he says he lives in baltimore i don't think there's

02:28:55.640 non-ghetto baltimore at least that's not the the impression i have been given um so

02:29:07.560 okay i will i will two things yes i will join the nick bandwagon and scold you you can absolutely

02:29:13.800 move money may be hard pick up everything you own throw it on your back and start

02:29:20.760 hitchhike until you get to jackson county tennessee um but assuming that's not something

02:29:27.640 that's within your realm of what you want to do i think that um getting together with other people

02:29:36.040 like yourself and this is going to seem self-serving but it is what it is get together with them join

02:29:45.560 the afa be part of what we're doing interact with us from distance host afa gatherings to get more

02:29:53.320 people who share commonality with you and with us and build what you want within the sphere that you

02:30:01.080 have access to i mentioned earlier you know we talk about these afa communities and getting

02:30:06.600 swaths of land in you know idyllic places it's also the right way to do it to get with you and

02:30:14.120 a couple other friends and get a joint you know get apartments in the same apartment complex 0.82

02:30:21.480 um shoot if money's that tough go in together with other afa members that find themselves in

02:30:28.040 the spot that you're in in baltimore and get some place that's a little bit nicer and share with them

02:30:35.560 you know throw in and you know go three people renting a place and get someplace a little bit

02:30:41.240 bit nicer if you want to or you need to change your circumstance one thing that i found is

02:30:46.640 there is a there's obvious benefits to living in places with more people like yourself certainly

02:30:57.300 with less crime um that don't have the same demographic concerns that you're experiencing

02:31:06.220 but those people don't have the same experience you have and often are not inclined to be

02:31:17.100 ideologically where you're at other people who have your same life experience are very primed

02:31:24.700 to be ideologically similar to you they know about where they live and the crime and the

02:31:32.040 problems and the things that they don't like versus the things that they do i think it's a

02:31:37.320 very fertile place for you to find people similar to yourself bring them home and build the world

02:31:43.640 you want within the shell of what you have get together with those people host stuff at your

02:31:49.320 house go to a park go in the woods do stuff in your you know apartment complex find places that

02:31:57.240 are not particularly criminal and spend time there hang out with each other walk each other's

02:32:03.640 wives and girlfriends and daughters to and from places if you're worried about the criminality

02:32:08.280 there is security and warmth and community in numbers and in gathering together with others who

02:32:17.080 share the values in life that you share do that where you're at and if it involves bringing folks

02:32:24.920 home to the afa we would love to help you in that process shoot if you you know just want ideas or

02:32:31.160 whatever we're happy to try to help you work your way through that process if that's where you find

02:32:35.160 yourself and where you are planning on building your immediate future at um absolutely as mike

02:32:45.480 said at the bottom when you look around for a hero one isn't readily available you have to become the

02:32:50.840 the hero. Absolutely go do that. Um, but it all starts with somebody wanting to bring

02:32:58.620 people together. And if you're the one there and you notice it's the thing you want to

02:33:01.720 do, let's make it happen. Um, that's where we're at. Nick, do you have any, any thoughts

02:33:15.680 you want to leave people with? Well, I guess you don't want to answer to the other question.

02:33:19.760 okay because i don't use the star thing we use private chat get on board all right no i do

02:33:26.960 actually want to answer this question i saw it when it came up and i think it's a it's a really

02:33:31.440 good question um could you touch on the afa being pan-arian why we worship the gods as they were

02:33:39.360 known in scandinavia i know it can be confusing for those new to the afa good question

02:33:46.400 them. So, Aryan people have a common root and common gods to us. Those gods have been

02:34:15.220 with us since our creation those gods have existed with us throughout our existence

02:34:23.460 and are there now participating in the gift cycle with us assuming that you are part of that gift

02:34:31.220 cycle. Any logical tracing of our gods, either through myth or through linguistics or through

02:34:50.660 whatever pathway you want, clearly when language changes, a random new set of gods that are very

02:35:00.720 similar to the old gods but all have different names doesn't pop into existence it's not how

02:35:06.160 things work so our gods go back and our reflections or um points of view of our common ancient gods

02:35:24.000 that have always been with our people we could be lost forever in an endless what if

02:35:36.000 if we decide well should we use the german names or the anglo-saxon names

02:35:42.800 or should we do slavic things or or greco-roman or etruscan things or or or or or or or

02:35:54.000 So we want to be unified in what we do, worshiping our gods, the Aesir, under the names and the stories and the context given us by the Norse sources, unifies our burbage.

02:36:14.980 It unifies how we relate to the gods.

02:36:17.720 It unites us as a folk to where when we stand together and worship our gods, we all have a similar perspective on who these gods are and on how we relate to them.

02:36:32.820 The Norse sources, I would say, are the least contaminated that have made their way to us.

02:36:41.600 They're the most complete of the, certainly the Germanic expression of our faith, and we want to be consistent in doing that.

02:36:55.020 And a point that I think is not without merit, it's through this Norse nomenclature and context that the gods initiated the rebirth of our faith.

02:37:12.560 It is as Odin, the all-father of the Norse pantheon, that Stephen McNallan was awakened, that his soul was brought to reforge Ausitru back in 1968.

02:37:34.680 It was under that context that this is here today, and we honor that by using the Norse names for the gods, using the Norse corpus of lore as our primary focus and our primary source.

02:37:54.360 Again, it's really important that we do things in a structured, unified way to where when people come in, they know who we are and what we do.

02:38:04.680 They don't have to wonder, how come this guy is saying Thor, but this other guy is saying Thunor, and this guy over here is talking about Perun.

02:38:14.620 It's very confusing.

02:38:16.800 We don't want confusion.

02:38:17.980 We want clarity of will, clarity of intention, clarity of purpose, and clarity in our worship together.

02:38:26.000 And doing that through the Norse context and nomenclature, we're able to do that the most effectively.

02:38:33.940 And that's why we do that.

02:38:37.760 Do you have any thoughts to add on that, Nick?

02:38:41.940 Realistically, you hit a lot of the main points that I was thinking in the survival of the lore,

02:38:50.300 the fact that it was through Odin, working through Elder MacNallan.

02:38:58.400 But I think an important thing here is the 10th noble virtue victory and our Aryan concept of doing an action and getting stuff done and making accomplishments. 0.72

02:39:16.800 No other aspect of, or no other, you know, resurgence of an Aryan faith has actually accomplished anything that competes with the amount that the Asatru flavor has.

02:39:43.800 um and even out even outside the afa there's you know the number of organizations the number of 0.68

02:39:51.440 people that claim to be also true even even it's you know they're backwards is all get out about

02:40:01.180 it they at least think they're also true so it's it's something trying they have a long way from

02:40:07.660 coming home, some of them, but they're trying in their own way, maybe. So it accomplishes

02:40:15.620 something and it is accomplishing things. So, I mean, I think that is an important thing

02:40:20.540 to consider. And as you said, as part of, I said it earlier tonight, Asitru is about

02:40:31.040 community um our ancestors our faith our culture is about the community together and the cohesion

02:40:40.020 and the interconnectedness of that and the dependability that we have on each other

02:40:46.100 and if we're all on the same page then it just functions that much better

02:40:54.120 absolutely

02:40:57.620 yeah it's really important to be united in what we do it's not an individual thing it's a community

02:41:07.760 thing um and we're definitely stronger when we do this together and the

02:41:14.600 impact towards victory the recognition of our gods and building something for our future is

02:41:24.800 done best when we do it together. All right. Well, that's what we got for you tonight. It's been nice

02:41:31.640 to get to not just talk in your presence, but actually talk with you and talk to you on here

02:41:38.980 tonight, Nick. It's been great having you. I appreciate all you do to make these things

02:41:42.860 happen. Nick is the only person that has been actively engaged in all 93 of our episodes so far.

02:41:51.040 yeah without him this doesn't happen or looks really really different or certainly happens

02:42:00.920 less good so we appreciate all you do Nick and I appreciate you guys being here in the chat and

02:42:07.900 coming with your questions it's great to talk to you guys each and every week

02:42:12.640 Next week, Witten Svahn will return, and he and I will discuss the grimness mold.

02:42:19.920 And until then, hail the Aesir, hail the folk, hail the AFA, and remember, victory never sleeps. 0.65

02:42:41.720 Thank you.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - April 18, 2024

4⧸17⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 93 - Sigrheim

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