00:03:00.000hello everyone and welcome to another exciting edition of victory never sleeps
00:03:22.400today we've got witness fawn joining us once again to share his knowledge about our gods
00:03:30.060and goddesses this time with a fuzzy camera yeah i'm having uh camera difficulties it's
00:03:36.200okay he's persevering that's that's one of our virtues um yeah it's good to talk to you guys
00:03:42.680trying to think of what's new since last week um for those of you who are anywhere near the
00:03:49.860Tennessee area. This weekend, there's going to be a small, I say small, it's going to be however
00:03:55.960many people show up, moot at Sigurheim. Our first settler now lives there, and we're going to have
00:04:04.260a moot, I believe a picnic and a camp out moot there. But, you know, folks listening to this
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00:04:34.700The contact you want to make, our folk builder for Tennessee is Russell Brown,
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00:04:59.520we'll have it up here there's lc fest celebrating the folk mother for the third year in a row
00:05:04.160in Wisconsin coming up at the end of next month. So that'll be great at the end of May,
00:05:11.100if you can make plans to be there. And if you can, the guy you want to reach out to is James
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00:05:46.860cause, we'd appreciate that. Yeah, and I think with that, ready to start off this evening.
00:05:59.020One thing we are going to try to do, and I apologize, I got this member feedback a little
00:06:03.620bit from last, excuse me, from our last episode with Svan. We're going to try to give a little
00:06:10.760more background today when we talk about the myths. I think some of us, certainly Svan and
00:06:16.200myself have been doing this for a really long time. And I think sometimes we forget that there's
00:06:21.880a lot of people that are very new to this and a lot of listeners and casual watchers of this who
00:06:26.600this may be their first exposure to our myths and they may be unfamiliar. So we'll try to break down
00:06:32.220a little bit more of the story in the background this episode. So Svan, if you could, assuming our
00:06:41.420people have never heard of her before. Can you tell us a little bit about Lady Freyja?
00:06:50.300Yes. I would say when we talk about the goddesses, there are two major goddesses that are
00:07:01.740um brought up obviously frig and then there is the enigmatic um freya her name means the lady
00:07:13.580uh it is a title just like frey means the lord um so it's the the titling itself is
00:07:24.620starts off with some of the mystery behind her um at the same time she is uh her her dominion her
00:07:33.260throne of of uh influence within our our world is is again hard to pin down um when we talk about
00:07:41.660frig we uh mother childbirth but when we talk about freya her her um powers are more around
00:07:54.220the ideas of possession desire um there's even magic and the the usage of magic or uh the
00:08:04.620mysteries of magic but most importantly i would say as the pinnacle she is the goddess of beauty
00:08:12.780and all that that entails and that entails a lot both good and bad um that i think
00:08:19.580uh gets confused a lot in this day and age so freya being of the vana the vanir being of um
00:08:31.420the gods of natural law one of i think her major powers is
00:08:38.060beauty desire and possession and how those all kind of correlate together
00:08:49.580All right. I suppose to add a little bit to that, Freyja and her brother Freyr are both from the, originally from the Vanek gods and are brought into the Aesir after the Aesir Vanir war.
00:09:15.800They are the son and daughter of Miur there, who we did an episode on earlier and who we just had last August dedicated a Hoth to.
00:09:37.860They're the Aesir, but the stories from the gods that come down to us from the gods and what we have witnessed or our ancestors witnessed was the great conflict between the gods.
00:09:53.360This is a huge part of our lore. And it's really coming to an understanding that the gods of natural law go head to head with the gods of cosmic order. And this is a very strong tenant in the development of the gods.
00:10:10.000And it shows that kind of evolution of the gods, if you will, that they were once separate, but united and that the gods live and move and react and do things. We don't see them as just things in a book or things on a page. They are developing and have developed and will continue to develop.
00:10:33.600And I think that that's one of the big things about the war. As we know with most Aryan religions, there's always usually a war in the beginning. Sometimes there's a war in the middle, and there's also a war at the end.0.99
00:10:47.600um this is uh something that unites i think all of the aryan branches there's a couple of other
00:10:52.820things obviously like an upper world middle world and lower world um and of course the striker
00:10:59.720fighting the serpent um these uh these elements show but it's unique to ours i think that um
00:11:09.680show an interesting factor the gods disagreeing meeting into conflict having an issue and then
00:11:16.600eventually creating a kind of congruence with each other. And after this, it is clearly seen
00:11:26.780that our ancestors, especially in the stories, in the prosatas, they talk about or drop hints
00:11:34.020about the Vanir gods being part of the Aesir. They're mentioned as Aesir or Aos. So after this
00:11:43.740conflict, even though it's not quite mentioned, um, there's a little bit of a, of a hostage
00:11:50.520program between the two in the stories in which they both give up two, uh, divine heads, um,
00:11:57.360from either side and they live amongst each other. Um, but after that, there is, uh, some
00:12:04.960grievances that happen and there's a, the story about, um, uh, the Vanir sending one of the gods
00:12:13.200from the Aesir back, sending his head back. So it's a truly interesting story. And then that is
00:12:20.360when Odin places that god's head on the well of time, the well of memory, excuse me. And
00:12:29.960so it's a very, very interesting story. But after that, it kind of glosses over and it moves on to
00:12:36.600other things uh and that's where we we later on see there's mentions of frey being the brightest
00:12:43.640or the best of the house or the icier uh and there's always mention of them there is an
00:12:51.080interesting thing though even after all of that freya is mentioned as the vana dis she's that's
00:12:57.000one of the references that they title her vana of course showing her origin and dis meaning a a
00:13:03.720twister of fate or one who brings about fate or luck or or a a the ability to uh
00:13:13.240change the hamina or luck of of a people or as in their case with the gods um and so she's referred
00:13:22.120to as with this might with this power and that again lends towards her her magic um but i think
00:13:29.080it's really important that if you're new to alsatru and you're not really familiar with the
00:13:33.640stories um one of the supplemental things of understanding is that freya is uh if you're
00:13:41.560let's say without the stories freya is certainly the internalized goddess she's her um her
00:13:49.800Her overall power, I think, is best seen and known in the internalized and structured feminine, whereas Frigg is the external and structured societal feminine.
00:14:07.200how she is seen as an equivalency to her husband how she is seen as a provider and a giver of
00:14:15.440wisdom and knowledge and blessings and power within the society of the gods freya is more
00:14:21.760internalized and i think that she represents kind of the structuring of the feminine
00:14:27.920before entering into like societal position and oaths like marriage and and wedding and and
00:14:36.700children? In Aryan religiosity, there's a common theme amongst the goddesses. There is a polarity
00:14:48.220between the cow goddess archetype and the mayor goddess archetype. The idea of women in the sense
00:14:59.660of the domestic role the societal role the the queen the lady of the hall the mother the wife0.57
00:15:07.800on the one side with with Frigg and then with Freya the uh the lover the the unmarried maiden
00:15:17.500the woman who's who's um wild the wild female magical nature is personified in that and both
00:15:27.760of those female types are represented by by our gods and i think that's a really important duality
00:15:38.720got some questions lining up but uh first i'd like to to thank roland blake once again
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00:17:00.480there um sarah asks can you tell us about folk thing it's fine can you tell us about folk wanger
00:17:12.480Yes, Folkvang is, I would say, more akin to or in equivalency to, if you were to think of it, it's like Gladsheim with Odin.
00:17:29.060So you have Odin and his domain in the heavens in Ithavol is Gladsheim, and inside Gladsheim is Valhall.
00:17:41.400And then with Freyja, it's seen as this realm is Folkvang, or the field of the folk, or the place, the folk in which the field gather.
00:17:53.980I mean, with the field in which the folk gather, and the hall is Sesrumnir. Sesrumnir is the hall of residing.
00:18:06.420So Folkvang is often, I think that's often confused. Folk think of it as a hall.
00:18:15.820um and it's interesting because this really it comes from uh in especially notoriety is is is
00:18:26.520the mentioning of uh freya being able to take on the her choice of the dead uh in particular from
00:18:36.560a story where odin is trying to stir up a war between two brothers in the in the story and
00:18:43.840And Freyja pulls something that I think the audience is getting the idea that this would not be a passable thing.
00:18:54.480So the intention of the story is to show that Odin is a lord of war.
00:19:00.620He is a, he, the crucible of the soul in war is very important to him.
00:19:07.080And it helps in his choosing of the Einherjar.
00:19:10.980so the the audience hears this proposal in which freya says i get to choose first from all of the
00:19:19.060dead that are um brought about in the crucible of war and instead of this being a clear no
00:19:28.020So he says, yes, because his drive for that war to, to find the Einherjar, I think is so hungry. It's again, it's, it takes place in his, in his hunger for those, those things that he says, yes, do it.
00:19:48.200and so from then on she is stated to be able to choose from the first uh whether that in the
00:19:56.480translations is saying every time or that she gets to choose it just simply as a move of like like
00:20:03.740pulling a card um in that in that regards i think is is an interesting kind of debate on that
00:20:09.680the biggest thing to understand though is i think that odin played the long game which is either way
00:20:16.160they get into into heaven they're they're pulled in to the heavenly abode and they will be
00:20:23.280uh utilized nonetheless against chaos at the end so he doesn't really lose either way
00:20:32.320and only stands to gain and that's uh one of the interesting stories about odin in in the um
00:20:39.360the uh in the in the stories it it's kind of a question of um a lot of times they they would
00:20:48.800really paint their view of the dominions of the gods through opinions like that driving desire
00:20:58.560for war in order to find souls so whether there was an actual war between two brothers
00:21:05.440it's unknown there's not really um any definitive uh cases where that this was
00:21:12.800you know like linked to a specific battle at a specific time but the stories of ovin connected
00:21:19.520to battles and and and uh who will win them and and what souls he can he can gain from them there
00:21:25.920are numerous stories like that and this one is just interesting because uh kind of in a um
00:21:32.640almost like a rivaled sense you see the enigmatic essence of freya but it's worth noting that freya
00:21:42.800was mentioned as one of the uh valkyria which is a valkyrie the valkyria are again anointers
00:21:52.400or choosers of of those that that the crucible um that they take partake in the crucible and that
00:21:59.920Odin points out so in essence this could be viewed as like she's already there and that
00:22:08.320she gets to choose and still assumed that he would say no and he said no do it make it happen
00:22:16.560so um I think that's a very interesting story just in that regards um
00:22:21.040So, yes, Folkvang is often, when they go, they go there, they go to that realm, just like
00:22:30.240the Einherjar go into Gladsheim and then they cross over the River Thund and enter into
00:22:39.960All right. So first, Ronald, I'm sorry. So for anybody listening, I had an embarrassing
00:22:48.100dyslexia moment where i decided to to call ronald roland and i'm a little bit embarrassed and i
00:22:55.220apologize especially somebody who's been so generous to us i'm sorry about that that's that's
00:23:00.420dumb on my part um timmy asks our next question freya is known as a female war goddess as head
00:23:09.460of the valkyries and overseas folkwanger on the other hand her brother frayer is not usually seen0.92
00:23:15.780in a martial context as keeper of the frith and peace only under threat of extreme violence
00:23:22.020and at Ragnarok he defeats the physical embodiment of chaos with a stag's horn
00:23:27.780can we not see him having high martial prowess as well
00:23:34.260yes I wouldn't say that like Freyr is a lord of pacifism by no means he's even referred to as
00:23:44.660as, uh, Bailey's killer or Bailey's, um, uh, you know, end, he ended Bailey. It's not really
00:23:54.480referenced as to who Bailey is, except perhaps in another story. And that's a, that's an interesting
00:23:59.220point with Freya as well. And a lot of the information we get about Freya. Um, but it said
00:24:05.200that he, he struck him with his bare hand and killed him. Um, and that's all that's mentioned
00:24:11.260of that story and it could it could quite possibly have been lost um or never able to be compiled um
00:24:18.940but yes freyr as a lord of peace most certainly and when you think about some of the things like
00:24:25.740his his um the the uh avatar of his of his mobility is uh gulen bursty gulen bursty is
00:24:36.140gold and bristled and so prosperity and and wealth and power whereas it's mentioned that
00:24:44.140you know in and uh in another story in hood um hindluljoth it's mentioned that freya rides
00:24:52.860hildaswin which is a another uh again the boar symbology there of their of their vehicles but
00:25:01.260this one is the battle swine so there's clearly some connections there um to her you know being
00:25:09.340close to agitation desire i think ultimately to her when i talk about uh wealth and and the
00:25:16.540possession of goods and wealth uh through war through conquest i think there is there is a lot
00:25:22.780of that connectivity of freya being the goddess of bounty oftentimes by what you gain through conquest
00:25:31.260um something else to remember is as well are the tales of our gods and goddesses come down to us
00:25:41.140from a very specific time period in history and during that time period there was a lot of warfare
00:25:49.600going on so i think it was taken for granted it was a given if you were an able-bodied man you
00:25:55.720were by you were a warrior when you needed to be a warrior. But I don't think that's the whole of
00:26:01.440our ancestors existence. And I think that what gets written about and celebrated so often is
00:26:08.280great feats of heroism, which are very often seen on the battlefield. But I don't think that that's
00:26:16.680the life that most of our ancestors desired all the time. That was simply what was required in
00:26:21.300that time. I think the idea of striving for bountiful fields and, you know, your sons living
00:26:28.620to adulthood and your people living with prosperity and greatness was also celebrated and also
00:26:35.380something that our people genuinely look forward to and enjoy it. Um, certainly, uh, Lord Freyre
00:26:43.060has, you know, martial prowess and we see that and we see him go to battle and participate in battle.
00:26:50.080But the emphasis on celebrating prosperity and celebrating, you know, the bounty of the land is certainly something that our ancestors deeply wanted, especially when we consider that these stories often emanate from a place that growing seasons were difficult to where wanting a bountiful and prosperous land was was not a given and was very hard to come by.
00:27:15.500So I think celebrating that is really important. It's really important not to look at our gods as one-dimensional because they're not.
00:27:24.160We have gods that we associate with royalty very often. We don't typically think of Freyr in that contest, but if we were Swedes, I think we certainly would because that was the, you know, the progenitor of their royal house.
00:27:37.060So these gods, they are complex because they are individuals and they have personalities, as all of us are complex.
00:27:49.600And it's important to consider that, that they're not a one dimensional.
00:27:53.260This is the God of X. This is the God of Y.
01:01:27.040Yeah, I think a lot of the, whether you stand outside, definitely showing a sense of devotional atonement and alignment is important.
01:01:42.840So whether you kneel and hold your hands up, whether you stand and you hold your hands up in an algae's position, I definitely think that showing that connection, showing that connection, showing a physical positioning.
01:02:12.840if you will um it's it's important and a lot of people get hung up on the idea of kneeling and or
01:02:19.800giving any positioning um without really understanding context um whether you kneel
01:02:27.240down to meditate uh you know in the morning or in the presence of of the breaking dawn
01:02:33.880um and then hold your hands up in giving thanks and then standing up and holding your hands up
01:02:39.240what we're talking about here is physically weaving your your deeds towards devotion and a
01:02:48.200lot of people again because we have some people that kind of come over from um universalistic
01:02:53.960religions like like christianity or you can see it with islam too and things like that they they
01:02:58.440view this uh this posturing as um supplication but it's um it's something that we should
01:03:07.400consider when we kneel down to meditate are we we're kneeling down to ourselves we're
01:03:12.280we're sitting down to ourselves um that that it seems kind of strange like if i'll only kneel if
01:03:19.960i meditate to myself but i won't uh you know contemplate and think about the gods while
01:03:24.760kneeling down um it becomes kind of ridiculous but the other way the way to look at it is
01:03:32.920when you think about it you're not in in supplication uh a lot of the movement of prayer
01:03:39.000whether kneeling on one knee or two knees or standing up and giving a salute these are all
01:03:45.640measures it's i always think of it kind of like when i was in the military because that's how i
01:03:49.720equate a lot of things you know when we were sitting around in a room and an officer came in
01:03:54.200it was announced that he was in the room and we would all immediately stand and stand at attention
01:04:00.600with our hands at our side, not in the front, you know, just immediately showing that sense
01:04:06.700of presence. We didn't kneel, but, you know, at the same time out in public, we would salute
01:04:12.760these officers. And these are important aspects of giving physical denotion of hierarchy.
01:04:24.040the only difference is is that I wasn't um devoted to my officers like I was to my gods
01:04:30.940so I would gladly give you know devotion to the gods um you know it you know looking at the
01:04:38.980equivalency of things I guess culturally or what have you so you know at for instance at Thorshof
01:04:44.740a lot of times when people come in they place their hands up into an algae's rune which is the
01:04:50.980rune that's three up on a stem they place their hands up or the mother rune in in the younger
01:04:57.700futark and they show that they are giving a devotional credence to hierarchy and giving
01:05:05.780devotion to and and and basically saying i accept any wisdom any strength any even your eyes to
01:05:14.660witness us and witness our deeds i accept this i desire it i want it to be so i would say my um
01:05:24.580take on that would be the with while saying the prayer you can hold your hands up in showing
01:05:32.500physical sense of um devotion and this again when you do something we know this like uh when you
01:05:39.620smile when you smile you feel happy it's it's a part of our body it's a part of the way we do
01:05:46.180things so if you stand you raise your arms you accept you bring these things in you start to
01:05:52.740change your mind and your soul by the physicality of it so i would say do that as well and and and
01:05:59.780uh you'll find your comfort zone and perhaps it will evolve over time and that's fine too
01:06:05.780but do something physical with it as well you know i got i got thoughts on this and this is
01:06:11.300you know certainly going beyond the initial question but spawn brings up okay first and
01:06:18.500foremost um the typical also true speaking to the gods pose is that algae's pose where you're
01:06:29.060looking up your arms are outstretched and you're reaching up towards the heavens with arms you know
01:06:34.420palms wide open the posture is one of receiving it's one of those things in0.63
01:06:43.860in bloat when someone comes around the circle the gothy comes around the circle to to a spurge
01:06:53.220it's one of the things and in our bloats sometimes you'll drink from the horn if it's a smaller
01:06:57.540number of people but if it's a large number of people someone will a spurge which means they'll
01:07:02.500take an evergreen sprig usually and dip it into the mead that's been blessed and to distribute
01:07:08.900the blessings of the gods they'll splash that meat upon the participants to do that whenever
01:07:15.380they come around instinctively i and you know most everybody else puts our arms out and our hands
01:07:23.140open to to receive it's a it's a natural opening yourself up rather than closing yourself off and
01:07:31.780And I think that's a large part of that pose.
01:07:34.680It's one of the things that most commonly you'll see
01:07:37.020and certainly, you know, was commonly done
01:07:39.280since the dawn of the new day of Ausatru in the 1960s.
01:07:47.020The idea of kneeling, there's a lot of people
01:33:02.240okay is hymenia the same as folk soul ah yes um yes it can apply to that i i think again when we
01:33:12.480talk about the group the the collective uh soul of but it's a component of it it's not the entirety
01:33:21.040of it the humming yah is a it is a a might that can be built up as for instance our cyclic uh
01:33:34.640devotions to the gods our devotionals over many many years have built humming yah that we gain
01:33:41.920insight or understanding or boon benefit as we continue to lead ourselves in for noble action
01:33:53.420towards the correct path that we believe the gods are watching us and then imbuing upon us
01:33:58.280humming and does this affect the folk soul i would say yes but is it the entirety of it no
01:34:05.560uh it is certainly one of the things that connects the individual sal of the soul and we'll we'll
01:34:13.860actually probably be talking we are going to have a uh victory never sleeps on the soul correct
01:34:18.220in the in the uh future yeah that's our next episode right right my next episode together
01:34:28.260right so the individual soul the soul um as a as a component with many pieces is seen as well as
01:34:39.900being a component of many pieces that would make the folk soul and what unites them and kind of
01:34:45.340holds them together one huge component of that is humming um and so the actions of your your kin
01:34:52.280the actions of, you know, if someone detracts from the hominia of your folk soul or the folk
01:35:01.260in the living sense, even the folk soul and the might that's present in the living now
01:35:07.260also has power and effect. So that's why we desire as, you know, we have individual prayer,
01:35:15.560we have individual devotion and individual action, and we should live our lives wanting
01:35:19.960the gods to witness our deeds we also want the gods to witness our deeds as a whole as a group
01:35:26.120as a tribe as a collective as a nation or as a people we want the gods to witness that and we
01:35:31.720don't want to detract from that so it's it's a desire not in the sense that we are broken from
01:35:39.160birth or that we are uh villainous or that we are tainted but that we have the capability of
01:35:46.440being noble or being ignoble and so we we want to be noble not simply just for our own soul
01:35:53.240but the overall soul of our people and and when we go against that we are we bring detriment
01:35:59.880on our folk and so we see a lot of our our our elevation forward and upward is not just
01:36:06.840individually based it's not based on some uh you know set of rules that you have with a specific
01:36:12.840god or goddess or the gods themselves no there there's there's multiple layers to this you are
01:36:20.840you want your ancestors to witness you and you not to bring foul uh name to them bring honor to them
01:36:27.960you want your folk to see you and have the frith and the honor and the might and the homing of
01:36:32.840your folk in the living middle to be elevated and you want the gods to witness both all right
01:36:42.440So Svan, how is Freya specifically related to Hymenia?
01:36:49.400Again, I made reference to the lore and about her anointment of power upon Svipde or Otar,
01:37:00.440but let's look outside of the lore in and of itself. The, I guess, personal faith that I have
01:37:09.160in contemplating these things is that freya is a ds a ds is a is a divine titling power um that
01:37:22.520bestows upon or has the ability to funnel or give luck give homing give might in that sense and so
01:37:32.040she i think as if we preside by guidance we seek to be witnessed then it can be bestowed upon us
01:37:44.040benefit boon might bounty these these elements that are within her throne are kind of again
01:37:52.920testaments to your humming of being elevated and changed likewise if you go and detract away
01:38:00.360and do ignoble things or things in in opposition to uh to yourself to your family to your folk to
01:38:07.320your people then you are then also detracted away so that's how i would directly correlate it and
01:38:15.000and again we have lots of evidence of this um and it's it's very tangible amongst the gods whether
01:38:22.680we were talking about thor or odin but also too with freya um otter you know having a a pile of
01:38:30.760stones dedicated to her where he he um goes there and and prays to her and gains hamina and benefit
01:38:39.880boom um from her but this again is is i think more about the nature of the gods themselves
01:38:46.120and their ability to affect your harmony um overall all right so first over in the side
01:38:54.600nick posted the recipe for the sauerkraut and bananas
01:38:59.960that is the og original recipe that i used like i don't know
01:39:09.400almost 20 years ago i think at this point that is the origination please feel free to get
01:39:15.880you know get funky with it and uh make it work but that's the one i started from it's delicious
01:39:23.960the nutmeg adds to it it's awesome you should try it also sterling are you going to join us
01:39:30.440at lc fest i see you're in wisconsin i would love to have you join us there be cool if you figured
01:39:36.680that out um is there a god most closely associated with hymenia
01:39:48.120i would say that our nornir are the most closely related godly beings um
01:39:58.600but no i don't think there's like the god of hymenia but i think that the nornir
01:40:04.440are the most closely related with to it um is hymenia the same as the folk soul no
01:40:12.440hymenia is specific to a group our race has a hymenia but the folk soul is
01:40:20.600much much more than that is the folks hymenia part of the folk soul certainly just as your
01:40:27.000hymenia is part of your soul but the folk soul is a much bigger collective of the experiences
01:40:35.800and emotions and history of our people that's inherent in our blood it's much more than
01:40:42.520just a hymenia it's a it's an ancestral memory it's a inherited genetic traits it's so much more
01:40:51.720than just hominia and uh lastly how how can we see freya in association with hominia
01:41:02.360i would say this and uh so one of the things my daughter got for her birthday was a little
01:41:08.360lawnmower thing that when she pushes it around it makes loud noises
01:41:14.040hey aubrey can i see that for a second yes thank you so as we pause from uh
01:41:21.080the bubble mower for a second um so and this please bear with me on this this is going to sound
01:41:32.840kind of odd um you have people that claim to see to see auras and so when they see you they don't
01:41:45.800just see you they see an aura that surrounds you well our gods can see hymenia when freya sees you
01:41:59.320she doesn't just see the man or woman standing before her she sees them coupled with the hymenia
01:42:08.120that surrounds and imbues them with with spiritual might we want our hymenia to shine bright
01:42:15.320before our gods we want them to we want our reputation to precede us we want the gods to
01:42:25.000be impressed by the hymenia that we carry with us when we approach them when we approach them
01:42:31.560in prayer when we approach them um at ritual when we approach them when we cross the veil
01:42:39.560we want our hymenia to shine brightly because they see in terms of hymenia we try to as people some
01:42:48.280of the gifted among us see that and feel a presence even those that aren't gifted among us
01:42:55.960you feel a presence when you're in proximity to a great person you feel some of that greatness
01:43:04.680that's amplified all of that all of that that you bring with you that hymenia that you have built
01:43:13.320in your spiritual might you radiate that those with second sight see that and our gods see that
01:43:22.280we want freya to see that and to appreciate that and as one who bestows and as one who chooses
01:43:29.880we want her to be impressed by our presence we want you know just because we want to impress
01:43:35.960the ladies we want to impress the lady and we want her to smile upon us and be impressed by
01:43:43.480the hymenia that we bring before her and i think that's the closest i've got to answering that
01:43:49.240question next one or log could be likened to germanic form of karma somewhat right yes um
01:44:05.480especially when you talk about a karmic debt that a person is born with due to caste or due to
01:44:12.840something like that swan do you have any more to offer on the relation between the concept of
01:44:18.760karma and orlog yeah i i would say that definitely when we talk about some of the um
01:44:28.200more easter easterly ideals of that that is definitely the first correlation that i i would
01:44:33.400i would kind of point out um the build up of or again you said debt debt is often seen or is is
01:44:44.200referred to as doom uh doom of course nowadays we take that to mean strictly the
01:44:49.320demise of something but doom is kind of uh in elder usage was kind of again that that price
01:44:57.240which is paid that the actions are cumulative actions that were taken come forth and we see
01:45:03.640this again and again in our stories especially when we talk about like grimness mall and um
01:45:09.960um the uh the inevitable folly of a king who has trapped uh one of the or actually
01:45:19.240when reality one of the gods has allowed him um to to trap him in order to further emphasize his
01:45:27.220folly and then slowly reveal the truth and then ultimately building up into a rapid descent into
01:45:34.620his demise. And so we see these kind of like hyper time related in a human sense. We see this again
01:45:46.560too when it comes to the Holy God Vaoli, as he is an actor of the immediacy or the switch or the
01:45:53.280threshold that opens up and that flows forward is the consequence of action.
01:46:01.460Um, yeah, it's, it's built up over time and Haminga is again, correlated with that and can be lost because of inaction or wrong action. And that's very important to understand those two, um, as both being the ability to affect those things.
01:46:23.660so when we think of karma i i know that a lot of people modern times think of it as like whether
01:46:32.220i don't know they think of it as as uh um you know they refer to like instant karma and things
01:46:39.100of that nature i i would i would say that yes it has a more longer standing and pervading
01:46:44.940arch of understanding in the in the way that all of our deeds and movement and the movement
01:46:49.820of the of the world the movement of the gods the ancestors and and the alvar and all of these things
01:46:55.660moving together um overarching have a connection that can create folly or glory um but usually
01:47:03.980it's it's meant by immediacy of corrective action by ourselves and so in that way i think it
01:47:11.340definitely has connections to to karma all right question for both of you this is from king of
01:47:18.140cheese i may have asked this in the past do you think there there's worth in learning about the
01:47:25.660vettas and seeing how eastern arian spirituality may work for us today
01:47:33.580yes i will say this as a thing as a principle knowing stuff is good and that may sound really
01:47:42.380simple but yeah learn things read things it's especially good when you read things about arian
01:47:51.980spirituality um because the vetas are old i think there is a tendency to look at them as like a
01:48:05.500linear they came first thing and i don't think it works that way they are also a shared remembrance
01:48:16.220of our ancestral faith and our ancestral gods also they are the unique relationship between
01:48:27.740those of our ancestors that conquered in asia and in the subcontinent of india
01:48:35.500And that differs slightly from our ancestors who moved into nations in Europe.
01:48:46.420One of the things that's very valuable, I would say, is that that faith has, in a form, been continuous since the time of the Venice.
01:49:00.980Now, it's taken a lot of reshaping and evolution in that time.
01:49:08.440A lot of that is through Dravidian influence and influence outside of our folk.
01:49:14.720But it is interesting that it's a current living faith that didn't have the, you know, 1,000 to 1,500 or more years gap between our ancestors and us.
01:49:28.100And so I think that is interesting to see some of their ways of worship, some of their ideas about worship and the language of prayer and mantra work and things that way.
01:49:43.000I think those are very interesting and useful.
01:49:45.760But what I don't think is that in any way it should supersede the lore that comes to us through our Germanic sources.
01:49:55.080I think that it's great to add to, to add dimension, to add ideas in how to approach our gods or to do forms of worship.
01:50:07.820Because, again, we have that huge gap, but it should never supersede our Germanic lore.
02:01:04.900Yeah, when we talk about the gods and correlations to magic, there's, you know,
02:01:11.860clarity for some and pondering about others when we think about the runes in connection
02:01:17.540to Odin, when we think about the runes in connection to Heimdall, when we think about
02:01:23.540whether leechcraft, I know that some folks on the reading from the comments, they're connected to
02:01:30.180like, they understand some of the like Eastern Germanic people like the Gutens and some of
02:01:36.740linguistics that affected much of the anglo-saxon german and nordic uh language so when we talk
02:01:43.460about these subjects through the language the the leak craft or the leech craft healing magic or
02:01:49.780healing craft um sometimes you know is connected to the our senior air um or when we talk about
02:01:58.180um insights through dream dreams and and psychic kind of vision sometimes we we speak of the the um
02:02:06.740The Alsenior, her name is Dhar, and so we correlate kind of specific interactions with certain gods and goddesses.
02:02:19.140The one that's heavily connected with Freyja is Seder, and Seder is really a form of communication through opening and through – it's somewhat devotional in the sense that there is accounts where Seder is brought about by song or by trance.
02:02:44.560really that i think the song translates to trance but the trance is about opening oneself
02:02:50.960to understanding about the things around us um and and to be community communicative with the
02:02:58.480the powers around us seeing those and oftentimes they're they're referred to in the stories by
02:03:03.760visions sometimes when people see um the like two uh vitki two wizards if you will or two magic
02:03:12.980people and they're they you know before there's some sort of grievance between them but the people
02:03:19.060see two great animals fighting each other realizing that they're something more than just
02:03:24.160regular animals perhaps they're two bulls and they're fighting each other this again is is that
02:03:29.780that magic that ability to be open to and see things oftentimes in symbolic sense and that's
02:03:36.960really what i think when we talk about freya we see things in the symbolic sense of messaging
02:03:44.740oftentimes through image and through the creation of image like art like like the creation of beauty
02:03:52.600we see that being open to the powers around us and then formulating that into physical and tangible
02:03:59.700things things of beauty something that surpasses even you know even our own correlative sense and
02:04:06.980people create on different levels they train for it they go to school for it they they learn from
02:04:13.620the masters before them and then they reach this moment of mastery within themselves and it
02:04:18.340correlates into them kind of giving a symbol of seeing that sight seeing that thing the things
02:04:26.100around them and and then exuding that into the world manifesting it um as far as you know divination
02:04:33.620goes the the reading of the powers around you i think are heavily correlated with with freya
02:04:41.780as opposed to say like i know many people are um you know they utilize uh runic studies and runes
02:04:48.980in and of themselves if you're new to australia is it's kind of like a subject within the faith
02:04:53.860not everybody is into runes most people have an understanding of them as a writing system
02:04:59.700or a way to correlate again correcting the mind opening the mind up uh uniting with your people
02:05:07.380when you speak of a rune in its symbol symbolic meaning um but i think she extends even beyond
02:05:14.820that and those things are kind of more associated with galder and with with oven or with heimdall
02:05:20.820but again the it's mentioned that olden and freya in the lore exchange these understandings and i
02:05:29.060think that again is about that relationship like what you're asking that connection um
02:05:36.420freya's power i think exudes more in our ability to be receptive of things through
02:05:44.740sight and emotional feeling of the way that we we interact with the world around us the energies
02:05:50.260around us and how we correlate that in symbols um and then ultimately how we manufacture and present
02:05:58.340those those findings in our creations um i think that ultimately formulating things of beauty
02:06:08.900is one of the the greatest ways in which we can kind of show the after effect of
02:06:14.260insight through connection with her so a couple of things about freya and her magic um
02:06:23.460Um, first, to break it down for some folks, gender is a real thing.
02:06:35.060Male and female, masculine and feminine are very real things.
02:06:40.220Not only are they real, but they're sacred and they're beautiful and special.
02:06:48.020Now, Freya's magic, and there's other ways to utilize this, but specifically in terms of, say, their practice, it gets into some male and female things that are very important.
02:07:04.520the in magical practice and i don't claim to be a mighty wizard i do you know there's things that
02:07:18.660i do and things that i've done um and i trust in the efficacy of those
02:07:25.140but masculinity wise in our faith the magic practice amongst men is inflicting will upon
02:07:38.300something is taking the chaotic realm of the magical and inflicting that on a situation
02:07:48.680and manifesting that in reality what female magic especially say their magic0.90
02:08:00.120often does is it serves as a receptacle the women receive and are taken over by
02:08:11.380the spirits in for example something that you all are familiar with like the idea of a seance
02:08:18.680A female magician, a saithkona, would be overcome by the spirit of one who's passed, and they would speak through her.
02:08:29.300They would become an oracle for the divine or an oracle for anyone or anything that might be beyond the veil.0.93
02:08:39.060The concept of that, of being taken over by someone else's will, is a very feminine thing.0.78
02:08:46.380And that's beautiful when it's done by a woman, but when it's done by a man, it has other connotations. Our ancestors viewed the idea of a man being overtaken by others' will and others' control to be gay. For lack of a better term, they called that ergi, for you to be the, you know, the catcher in the pitcher-catcher relationship between gay individuals.0.70
02:09:13.040um so much of our um our spirituality and certainly our magic practice but also our
02:09:23.000ritual practice and it's it's worthwhile that we bring it up this month so in April we celebrate
02:09:30.020hexanot which is the female magic which is women charming the world around us charming the ether
02:09:37.460with their female magic where in may we celebrate mayday it's literally dancing around a phallic0.94
02:09:44.980image of the pole a a image of the penis and charming that so that the the male magic can0.87
02:09:54.980be inflicted upon the world that we live in and it's important to realize that duality when we0.95
02:10:01.700deal with magical practice so much of it relates to our inherent strengths and weaknesses as both
02:10:09.620men and women and i hope that makes sense for folks uh specifically was asked towards divination
02:10:18.180and i think in that way certainly tacitus talks about our ancestors trusting
02:10:24.180our ladies to be more in tune with divinatory practice than our men men typically use divination
02:10:33.460through the runes ladies see that in other ways and receive that in other ways and i don't think
02:10:40.340that's a complete answer by any means but hopefully that's the start of an answer
02:10:45.220and one other thing too just as you had mentioned one i think it's important that
02:10:50.180the feminine side of magic one of the biggest things is about the structure of of protection
02:10:57.620or the structure of integrity i would say because the idea of going forth and being to to receive
02:11:06.020means that there has to be a formulative way it can't just be reception and so like when we talk
02:11:14.340about like in uh eric the red saga when he when the seeth kona shows up she's singing these songs
02:11:20.660there is traditional placement off the earth that the seeth kona is placed in so she's taking these
02:11:27.620the traditions that were passed down and showing them in a formulative way so that it is a controlled
02:11:36.020uh again not to be overwhelmed but to be focused and to be purposeful and that comes through
02:11:42.900establishing parameters those parameters must be set up before the reception can be
02:11:50.580be uh brought upon the sithkona so she takes the the time to formulate her worth in the situation
02:12:00.900she places herself on elevation above the ground she places the four posts she sings the correct
02:12:06.740songs and she places herself within a controlled trance because it's not just wanton it's it's
02:12:13.700formulated to protection because that protection allows to focus um that that which is being
02:12:21.620received so that it can manifest into useful uh information or divination or insight or looking
02:12:28.820forward it can't just be uh unfettered or unregulated it's it's she takes it upon herself
02:12:38.900to see kind of to set things up like again like you used the reference of the seance the idea of
02:12:44.420the table of of the um correlation of the environment it seems to be very very important
02:12:51.300even as those seances are kind of you know uh something in latter day like a kind of occultism
02:12:57.540that's grown in in europe the the formulation of those magics within us are come from our blood
02:13:02.580and we understand that even if the the theater has changed as far as like perhaps christianity
02:13:09.220or you know in society is prevalent we see these things again there is a sense of making oneself
02:13:16.740pure or purified there's a sense of placing oneself within the worth of the the environment
02:13:23.220and creating boundaries correct boundaries in order to receive the proper information it's not
02:13:28.580just laid out there because nothing formulative comes from that so i saw this in the chat and i
02:13:34.420thought it was really cool a gentleman named john horn says i think this is my favorite victory
02:13:40.580never sleeps so far i love seeing things like that thank you so much um we love doing these
02:13:50.260uh that we are learning as we go trying to perfect them hopefully you know we are asking
02:13:57.620i know that i am and i assume that we are asking the gods to help bless us and direct what we're
02:14:04.180doing here in a good way and it means a lot to get feedback like that so thank you very much
02:14:09.620john and i'm glad you're enjoying it um next question gentlemen any updates on our pioneers
02:14:19.140uh remember our our remind our folk about the midsummer event too great stream as usual thanks
02:14:26.100you are very welcome so a couple of things our first pioneer she is out there she's doing stuff
02:14:33.940there's a wait list on laying down some gravel for the foundation of the temporary residence
02:14:40.420that she's getting set up in the immediacy but meeting with folks for providing hookups for
02:14:47.380electricity and internet service getting a gravel path and a gravel pad built in right now as we
02:14:57.460speak one of the really cool things that we found out recently um on our land is a very old burial
02:15:09.940ground and i believe there's 11 people that are buried there and it's an old family burial ground
02:15:20.820also amongst those 11 people is a revolutionary war veteran so that's very exciting we're looking
02:15:27.140forward to cleaning that up taking care of that restoring what uh what graves that we can and
02:15:36.900building off of that but that's an exciting thing that we just found out for folks that may not know
02:15:43.060and i mentioned this at the top of the hour we're having a a gathering i say we unfortunately i'm
02:15:49.380not going to be able to make it i am having a dinner at my house for people out here in the
02:15:54.020northern nevada northern california area you guys are welcome to show up honestly anybody here in
02:16:00.180this podcast if you get in your car now you're welcome to show up if you're not a member please
02:16:05.780reach out to me privately so i can vet you but if anybody wants to come to my dinner it's going to
02:16:10.180be good i think we're going to have some seafood lasagna and some blueberry mojitos and maybe some
02:16:18.340some other stuff but uh yeah you guys are welcome to do that anyways though folks that are close to
02:16:23.940sigerheim close to central tennessee um they are having a get together there this saturday
02:16:31.860so we're doing stuff we're moving right along many of us are looking at plans and stuff to
02:16:37.700develop houses on the land and certain things so it's it's absolutely moving forward i'm very
02:16:43.540excited about it i want you guys also to remember the idea is not just the folks that can live on
02:16:48.980the property there's a good deal of folks that can but that's a that's a drop in the bucket
02:16:54.260the idea is to get people to live close by if you live 10 15 minutes a half an hour from the
02:17:00.020property you're as good as living on the property you have lots of mobility but you can experience
02:17:06.500the community that we're trying to build so please do keep that in mind
02:17:12.900uh question do you think the story of freya helping otar to know who his ancestors were
02:17:22.100in order to claim the odal slash ancestral farm is a myth form of possibly a claiming
02:17:31.700of our own ancestral tradition swan what are your thoughts on that yeah we kind of made mention of
02:17:37.540this earlier um again the individual uh gaining might and power through an understanding of
02:17:46.740origin um especially in the components of of our our stories of old is that um this is always kind
02:17:56.820of correlated the more you know of the the connective origins of your of your people
02:18:02.980uh this was a a huge boon upon the soul of of uh the hero and so yes again i think it's kind of
02:18:11.620correlated both a perennial truth if you will uh of the idea that uh gaining that understanding is
02:18:19.300again gaining our might and our and our our luck i did want to bring up a point though they're in
02:18:25.140the story there too there's another significant thing that happens in which freya uh travels
02:18:33.060on a a swine or a swing uh a boar and there is a prophetess or a volva and she she travels on a
02:18:44.820wolf and i wanted to bring up another point we were talking about the feminine in our culture
02:18:50.740there is a chthonic feminine force that is seen as part of the the chaotic elements if you will the
02:19:00.180that the the natural law and the cosmic order of the gods is and often clashes with this form of
02:19:09.940what would be almost like a kind of a venomous um or a um stagnant slash uh dissipative force
02:19:21.620that they saw in the the the feminine uh kind of a a creation of chaos that comes from what they
02:19:28.660often refer to as troll wives or uh troll witches that ride on wolves and that symbology again of
02:19:36.660their of their vehicle the consumptive nature of them riding upon the wolf um is always kind of
02:19:43.620correlative to that is that there's there's a mystery in in the the feminine nature within
02:19:49.780the middle world here in the physical and that we see the feminine power when it is
02:19:58.500focused and and set and placed within its its proper standings of protection and worth and
02:20:06.660able to bring about and correlate that information forward it is good but if it's not then it's left
02:20:13.380to chaotic pulling and and uh oftentimes you know emotional or mental or spiritual kind of uh um
02:20:25.540dissipation and and destabilization and we see this uh it's it lasts within um obviously when
02:20:34.100we talk about like the the hag or when we talk about the knocked mara or the nightmare or the uh
02:20:40.820the kind of the the uh the it takes the form of this kind of feminine dissipation and consumption0.69
02:20:49.060um a kind of a a mockery of natural law in which it it seeks to grasp and take and dissipate and
02:20:57.940and and really really does attack the emotional stance of people that interact with these powers
02:21:05.780and are in the stories our gods are often referred to as fighting them um standing against them uh
02:21:12.660even an accusation is thrown where it says oh you didn't fight them you actually lived amongst them
02:21:19.060and that of course is the understanding of the nature of the insult is that these forces are
02:21:23.940not seen as good forces they are seen as um malicious forces and these forces again are
02:21:30.340the things that are out on the edges that are kind of unseen and unknown and one of the big things
02:21:35.780that are prevalent about that is hexanoch is using the feminine of our folk the way that our the
02:21:44.100inner guard is set up brings bounty and it's being this this feminine power that brings bounty to
02:21:52.420society is being used to stave off the the the feminine powers of uh emotional like uh tearing
02:22:02.180and intangibleness and and and um the sense of like incongruity or fear or doubt and things of0.78
02:22:09.780those natures are being combated by the women of the folk who are using their their knowledge and0.60
02:22:16.500power by blessing the folk with smoke so that they can be warded away from these dissipative
02:22:24.660factors so i think there's a lot of confusion because people uh especially like modern
02:22:30.340i would say um people that try to correlate uh if you have a bad image of a female in in mythos
02:22:38.340then it applies to all female and that's so ridiculous and and it it's it's sad and i can
02:22:44.900see that in a lot of ways they're trying to it's almost like the the i guess some bastions of of0.93
02:22:51.700of uh you know middle eastern religion kind of the the throws or the the venoms against that
02:22:58.900um and but then it spreads and gets even stranger as it goes um and i think that that's important
02:23:05.940that we understand that our our ancestors saw the the feminine of the mother the feminine of
02:23:12.660the wife the feminine of the maiden um just like they saw the the feminine of the the leader i
02:23:18.580mean uh saw the masculine of the of the leader the the the formulative power of the warrior and the
02:23:24.180the um potential of the upright hero the young man about to step forward these things are
02:23:29.940correlated to both of those very special and divine genders within our culture and so
02:23:36.340So them fighting the wolf riding troll witches, as they're often referred to, is that, you know, again, representing those powers of kind of malice and determination to tear apart, especially from the mind and of the emotional soul, the way that we interact with things.
02:24:00.120um that's often how they they attack so standing up against that both the feminine and the masculine
02:24:07.000both do it within our inner guard to the chthonic kind of dissipative feminine in there just like
02:24:15.880they do against the the thirst or the troll or the the jotain that's trying to crush and and0.90
02:24:21.640fight against or bang against the walls our gods are also fighting them as well so just something
02:24:28.120you know i wanted to bring up in relation to um a question earlier right so the next question and
02:24:37.400it's very simply asked but it's one of the i would say it's one of the big existential
02:24:44.040questions of life how can you know that you've done well um so
02:24:54.440So there are a number of ways. First, I'm trying to think of where to go with this,
02:25:08.180because like I said, this is a big question. It seems very simple, but it's something that
02:25:14.020I think all of us, I think all of us ponder and all of us spend our lives
02:25:21.180contemplating going back to over and over again.
02:25:30.100Some of this goes back to what I said earlier about the idea of worth-ship, the word that our
02:25:36.980our modern worship comes from when you read back in medieval romances and medieval poetry
02:25:48.900knights would go and they would travel to win worship and we're used to hearing worship in in
02:25:55.620the relationship between man and the divine but our ancestors worship was something that they saw
02:26:04.180also between but amongst men whether you were celebrated whether a hero was honored
02:26:12.980and it goes back to the idea of honor so now that we've in this modern age we've built the
02:26:19.220idea of honor as if it is a personal code of right or wrong but to our ancestors it meant
02:26:25.700much more than that you would receive an honor from your community you would be honored by your
02:26:33.300folk. So, and again, this is complicated because the world that we live in is very degenerate in
02:26:41.780so many ways. One way that you can know if you've done well is do your folk celebrate you?
02:26:50.020Do your folk appreciate you? Now there's your folk in general. There's your Alcitru
02:26:58.260AFA brothers and sisters. There's your friends and your family. But those concentric circles,
02:27:05.040do they celebrate you? Do they appreciate and show that you have done them honor?
02:27:11.800That is a good way to know that you've done well.
02:27:16.240As you cultivate your relationship with our gods and our goddesses,
02:27:21.240when you cultivate your relationship with your ancestors through altar work and other things
02:27:28.440do you perceive that they are proud of you because it's a feeling and it's it's very hard
02:27:35.560to describe but you can feel internally a lot of the times if you've done well if you've made them
02:27:44.060proud the idea is to make your folk and your community proud to make your ancestors proud
02:27:52.060and to make your gods proud and ultimately one of the tests that is
02:28:02.300always meaningful to our ancestors and meaningful to us today is are you victorious
02:28:09.100have the gods and the ancestors blessed you with victory in what you're achieving
02:28:14.060It's one of those things. You could be throwing yourself up against much mightier forces than you can marshal, and you're not going to win all the time. But all things being equal, the ancestors, the Norns, the gods grant and bestow victory on people who are making them proud and doing the right things.
02:28:40.440Now, again, there's a lot to interplay with that.
02:28:43.640But if you're seeing consistent victories, that tells you a lot about how you're doing.
02:28:54.480But I think we all wonder, you know, are we doing the right things?
02:29:33.020Yeah, that is a simple question with a not simple answer. The wellness of your deeds, how are they measured?
02:29:46.080Are they measured, you know, when we talk about the gods and how they witness us, how we seek to be witnessed by them in our deeds to hold upon ourselves an essence of desire to achieve nobleness, nobleness in action, nobleness in deed, nobleness in speech.
02:30:07.180Um, these, these mantles that we place upon ourselves, the duties that we place upon
02:30:13.740ourselves, it's, uh, the, the continuation at, at a certain point, I think it becomes,
02:30:20.980um, as we place these mantles, we wonder if, if the attainment of worth from placing these mantles
02:30:30.760is expressed in notoriety or in uh desire to you know of your worth and when people see you they
02:30:38.200want to talk to you they want advice they they need help or things like that and you want to
02:30:43.320help them it it's that reservation of of never fully um you you see yourself as saying i i feel
02:30:54.280like i'm doing well but i must continue to do more or i must continue to place more or do the mantle
02:30:59.480more i'm not saying that you need to bury yourself but the idea is to focus and harness
02:31:04.200your desire towards doing wellness and then as you begin to see the wellness
02:31:12.920come back to you be gracious and and and be appreciative and be um you know uh feel blessed
02:31:23.080in those things that that you have but to continue don't stop so i i would say the the
02:31:29.800the beauty of wellness is is that you never quite actually get the completion of it but
02:31:36.840are honed in the continuation of it if that makes any sense so continue and then the wellness will
02:31:45.320be like awake so i'm noticing over in the chat another uh europa the last battle.net says
02:31:56.040best victory never sleep stream was with mr and mrs flavel hands down i'm glad you guys liked that
02:32:03.160one um i've gotten that feedback before it's funny because i just told my wife about that you know
02:32:11.880i bothered her about that last night i received an email saying that someone really liked that
02:32:16.040episode mandy is so humble she you know she's worried that she wouldn't add anything to the
02:32:23.320program or you know what's she gonna say or whatever she adds so much and i don't think
02:32:29.080she realizes that but i was so proud to have her and aubrey on here it was such a fun fun episode
02:32:37.560did do and i'm glad that you guys liked that one um it gave me an opportunity to show off my family
02:32:43.080and i'm proud of them and i love them so that's great my cousin's gonna she's gonna i got you
02:32:54.520uh so next question along and this is kind of related along with or related to a previous
02:33:02.280question that is, along with living by the nine noble virtues, what else can a young man who is
02:33:08.220new to the faith do to be a better spiritual provider to my daughter? So I would suggest a few
02:33:17.920things. I don't know whether you are or you aren't. Join the AFA. Be part of a spiritual community
02:33:29.580serving our gods and raise your daughter with that i don't know how old your daughter is
02:33:36.540by your question i'm assuming that she's young
02:33:39.740you are living in a time where we and i'm living in this time too i've got a three-year-old
02:33:48.000i waited until later in life to to have my daughter
02:33:51.540but we get to raise them with this we get to raise them in our faith we get to raise them
02:34:02.520in the AFA and they'll never know a world that doesn't have temples have Hoffs to our gods
02:34:09.720so join the AFA have your daughter make friends within the AFA I'd also say this
02:34:20.000This isn't available to everybody. We all have different things going on in our lives. I understand that. If at all possible, get your daughter involved in the Ausatru Academy homeschool program.
02:34:34.100that can save her from a lot of the really bad things that are going on in the public school
02:34:43.800system. It can also bond her together, learning about our faith early on in life with other
02:34:51.580children who are learning about our faith who are in the AFA. Those are things that you can do.
02:34:57.500I don't know if you're settled. If you're not settled, you may want to move to where one of
02:35:04.100our Hoffs is or move towards Sigurhan. We have the unique opportunity now to raise our children
02:35:58.460your daughter is going to look at you as the example of what men should or shouldn't be
02:36:09.560Every male relationship she has in her life is to one degree or another going to reflect on you and whether she wants a man that is similar to you and to the example you've shown, or she wants the exact opposite.
02:36:28.200So do what you can to be the man that you want your daughter to eventually marry.
02:36:33.800um these are all things you can do and it's not the beginning of it's not the end of them it's
02:36:40.020the beginning there's so much you can do but you live in a time that is so i say you you and i you
02:36:48.480know shoot your daughter may even be older than mine we live in a time where we are so blessed
02:36:55.140with ways that we have to raise our daughters in this faith and to build our family within
02:37:04.580Ausitre, within the AFA, around our temples. Do that. And don't just poke around at it.
02:37:15.360Throw yourself at it wholeheartedly. Do it with your whole self and your whole heart.
02:37:20.320And hopefully you're already a member. If you're not a member, I look forward to seeing your
02:37:24.680application, but be part of what we're doing because we're raising our kids together and
02:37:30.760it'd be great to raise our daughters together. What do you have to say on this, Swan?
02:37:39.460Kind of, you hit, especially the latter part of what you were saying was really what I was
02:37:44.700thinking about, is that the gods, the fruit of your devotion to be witnessed by the gods
02:37:53.280and your deeds will often bear the most in the way the eyes of your children witness you.
02:38:01.400And much of the benefit of your devotion is equal to the benefit that your children will
02:38:10.980witness through you. Like you said, bringing up the nine noble virtues, I think that that
02:38:16.040is a wonderful way we i'm a big believer in the usage of the code that is the nine noble virtues
02:38:25.220um and always have been um and it's but really those virtues are about the application of the
02:38:32.120deeds connected to those virtues and to be witnessed by the gods is the same as seeking
02:38:38.000to be witnessed by your children so that they too can formulate their lives in in correct action
02:38:44.480and you have to uh contend with uh the willfulness of your children and their desire to
02:38:54.160um test you and to test the world around them and there will be times when
02:39:02.320they go forth you want to be there to help them they know and if they look at you as a bastion of
02:39:08.800of correct deed and correct devotional belief and spiritual power that when they find those times
02:39:15.680when you they're they're fraught with with indecision when they're fraught with um fear
02:39:21.120or apprehension that they can come to you because they see you as that that foundation and even if
02:39:28.800you don't feel that way all the time and that's okay the idea is to continuously project it
02:39:37.040and to hold fast to it and live by it place those that mantle upon yourself and then fulfill that
02:39:43.440mantle um as you go as a parent but not just as a parent as a a cornerstone in their life and the
02:39:51.520way they perceive the world around them don't hide them don't shelter them but show them and then
02:39:57.520tell them what you see how you feel um you don't have to lambast them with uh your own fears and
02:40:05.760apprehensions instead what you should do is give them clarity and understanding and then allow
02:40:11.440them to come to decisions and then make it to the point where they want to come back and ask you
02:40:18.480what you think about those decisions and then you can guide them as they go forward and always i
02:40:24.880think too is the um if your child's young maybe hold this off but if they start to get older is
02:40:33.760to you know to remind them that it is so important in this day and age in our modern times that we
02:40:39.920don't have people to connect to from the generations past there's been like a great severing
02:40:45.520in modernity and we are not we reject that we want to go back to gaining the knowledge and it
02:40:52.080starts with you and it but by no means does it end with you she too will be a bastion of knowledge
02:40:58.160and understanding for her children so this obligation becomes something that you share
02:41:02.960and that you're you're giving her what you can while you can so that when you're not there she
02:41:08.800can do the same and that her children will do the same and that continuation goes on so give them
02:41:13.920perspective is i guess what i'm saying maybe when they're little they don't get that but when they
02:41:19.040grow older especially when they start wondering about these things around like 10 or 11 they're
02:41:24.480moving forward right before they the threshold of stepping into the world um and the world is chaotic
02:41:30.880and be order be um stability uh be wisdom and apply those those virtues in accordance
02:41:41.040so i think this follows well on the end of that our next question what does the afa think of
02:41:48.240things like shield maidens that these feminists and other people with political ideas argue were
02:41:53.760real do you think they were real or not so you run into a numbers game when there's
02:42:04.560we see this a lot now this may seem like a roundabout way to answer this
02:42:11.360in this country if you with 300 million people if you want to find a thing you can find most
02:42:20.000anything you want if you want to join a special club for
02:42:26.960transgender amputees who are fans of spongebob you can find a big club because honestly with0.97
02:42:37.920exponential numbers you're going to find numerous anomalies
02:42:41.520Were there shield maidens? Certainly. Was it a thing? No. Was it something that we find
02:42:52.320to be true historically? Of course not. Were there examples of some women that happened to go
02:43:04.120into battle and be successful at it? Of course. You know, if we are in completely desperate times,
02:43:11.520and women need to take up arms for their folk, that's great. And we celebrate them if they need
02:43:17.820to do that. But if we have allowed it to get to that point, we are in a desperate, desperate
02:43:26.400scenario. And we want something better than that for our women. What I think is so detrimental
02:43:35.520about that idea being pushed, it's dangerous in a lot of ways. First, the idea of women1.00
02:43:46.420competing with men martially is terrifying. When women get their head filled with1.00
02:43:57.780Xena, Warrior Princess, I'm dating myself, ideas about women being able to beat up men.0.79
02:44:06.880What happens in real life is women put themselves in very dangerous situations
02:44:12.740and then face very dire consequences when reality is not like the movies.
02:44:19.880And I don't ever want our women to see that or experience that.
02:44:23.200um and what else what i think is more insidious is the idea that our women need to find worth
02:44:35.680if a woman tries to pretend that she is a man0.99
02:44:41.880even the worst man in existence can snatch that from her they will always win because they are0.96
02:44:51.080biologically men. Same if a man tries to be the best woman ever, the worst woman ever will always0.97
02:45:00.000be more woman than that man will be. What a self-defeating way to gauge your worth.0.95
02:45:07.860I've seen a meme back in the Facebook days that I absolutely despise that says,
02:45:14.820why raise a lady when you can raise a warrior if you are raising a warrior instead of a lady
02:45:22.100you are doing it wrong we want our daughters to be ladies and this connects back beautifully
02:45:29.380with the theme of this show freya is the example of a lady and we want our young we want our girls
02:45:37.460to grow to be ladies we want them to be noble to be dignified to be beautiful and to be feminine
02:45:46.660if we try to make them into little men we are doing them a disservice we're doing them wrong
02:45:55.140if their self-worth is by how close they can parody a man
02:46:01.780they are losing all the inherent beauty that exists in them as women that our gods have
02:46:08.900bestowed upon them and i think that is a slap in the face to our gods and our ancestors0.99
02:46:15.540and a often insurmountable disservice to our daughters so the afa doesn't support
02:46:25.060things like shield maidens and honestly what i have seen is that the shield maiden idea
02:46:34.340is upheld by the most damaged and fragile women who have not had success in their life
02:46:41.300who have great self-esteem issues and honestly who are the least fit to be shield maidens0.98
02:46:48.340that I've seen. Most often the quote-unquote shield maidens are morbidly obese and mentally
02:46:58.260very, very broken people. We want our ladies to be healthy, healthy of body, healthy of mind,
02:47:06.320and healthy of spirit. And pretending to be a shield maiden is not the path to that.
02:47:12.060what are your thoughts swan yeah i think kind of king and what you said about the exception versus
02:47:19.320the rule i think that there are accounts of exceptions and those exceptions are noted because
02:47:25.060of how exceptional or extraordinary they are in comparison to the ordinary and i think that that
02:47:32.680gets hyper focus and then that that hyper focus towards the uh extraordinary becomes almost like
02:47:40.120a uh a point of the the complete push of everything it's all it's all in on on the
02:47:47.720exception um it's it's much to say like if there is uh you know the the the battles of two armies
02:47:56.860of ancient origin and and they're fighting and there's thousands of men dying and fighting on
02:48:01.700the field um but there's one exception uh of a woman who joins the varangian guard because she
02:48:07.660happened to you know strike uh the hit on one of them and they they brought her into her into their
02:48:14.580ranks um the the ordinary of all those men that have lost their lives in the battle are are lost
02:48:22.760uh in perception because we just assume in the in the entirety of it these battles these fighters
02:48:29.180these you know perhaps led by great warriors or kings um we kind of toss that aside for
02:48:37.560you know the unique exception and when we also talk about lore um you know it's funny people
02:48:44.040talk about european society and how they have this this all or nothing ideal so all of it is just one
02:48:52.920way except in these cases and then it's the opposite way but those ways are the good ways
02:48:58.840and everything else is bad but you know when we look at um the folklore behind uh the occasional
02:49:06.920situations like that like lagatha lagartha or um or joan of arc if you will if you want to
02:49:14.040you know we're just going through the there's two fold in that the ex the exception of that
02:49:22.440the exceptionalism of that moment is in a time when things are not like when the always usually
02:49:28.760seen in the most dire straits um and again when you find these exceptions happening like you said
02:49:34.440If they're taking up arms, it's because the chemistry of that situation is vastly outbalanced and it's gone into detriment or things of that.
02:49:44.100And oftentimes it's seen as a desire to return, to go back to the equilibrium, to cease to have that be the case.
02:49:53.560And oftentimes it's seen, I think, in folklore as the form of a maiden as that call sign for the men to inspire them to return back to that equilibrium, despite setbacks or loss or all those things.
02:50:10.020So I want to I want to make a point about that. We see in our lore, we see that when women are forced to take up arms, we have accounts in our lore of women ripping open their shirts and burying their breasts when they go to battle of, you know, look, I am a woman and I have to go out here and fight.
02:50:33.040it's uh um it's an aspect of shaming cowardly men that won't go fight they're like hey somebody's
02:50:43.600got to do it and if i've got to here i will go fight if our women are having to fight
02:50:51.760it's because we have failed and we don't ever want to fail our women or our folk
02:50:57.960um our next question can we say which county as in Sigerheim we can and I will Jackson County
02:51:09.520Tennessee move there let's make it happen uh Sierra asks why is it that many seem to call
02:51:18.840on Freya for motherly wisdom or guidance i.e helpful helping to conceive when Frigga and
02:51:27.060Nana would be more suited for those types of calls.
02:51:32.340So again, I talked earlier about this.
02:51:52.820And specifically, when we talk about help conceiving, Frig has a lot to do with being a mother.
02:52:08.540But lust and the sex act itself are much more typically the domain of Freya.
02:52:17.740The idea of wanting Freya to inspire a child to be born of that lust, of that passion and that love between a man and a woman, I don't think is inappropriate at all.
02:52:33.400Again, just because one god or goddess is good at one thing doesn't mean the other gods and goddesses are not good at that thing.
02:59:58.440That's kind of lost, I think, on people
03:00:03.040or vice versa if a woman says i can't honor the gods because you know i'm a woman and i will only
03:00:07.840honor the the uh or i will only honor the vanir and become like some you know like i remember a
03:00:14.880while back people say bana true and all that that is so childlike in that progression of
03:00:21.280understanding your place within the community of your your peers uh in your relationship with your
03:00:28.320children and in your relationship with the gods and you want to be able to be open and evolve and
03:00:34.720move it makes you well-rounded it makes you it helps nourish your soul from multiple different
03:00:40.960angles so finding finding the inspiration and wisdom from the gods um in multiple uh origin
03:00:50.160points of them where they where they exude their dominion into your life is all the more of a
03:00:55.920benefit if you feel apprehensive or you don't have a good relationship sometimes i think it's good to
03:01:02.080to step into those those bounds um gearing your mind towards things and then taking the devotional
03:01:10.080acts to uh create that energy that connection with them is part of the process um learning uh
03:01:20.480you know composing prayer composing song and and doing deed in devotion to the gods or to
03:01:28.320the goddesses or to all of them um and finding yourself richer uh because you don't limit your
03:01:36.480your the scope of which you um you know address the holy powers so i i i think it's perfectly fine
03:01:46.640yeah if you're you know you find that in your life or if you see other women doing that you
03:01:51.920said like a lot of women give you know to to freya it's because you do not perceive freya as
03:01:59.200the aspect that nourishes you as for motherhood but perhaps others do and there is lower
03:02:05.840substantiative points that can be brought up to that understanding but it's really about the
03:02:11.200relationship that you have with that our senior or with that house and if you don't have a
03:02:18.160relationship with them then build that try that and expand a little bit more in understanding
03:02:26.640so all right next question and i'm glad this came up because hopefully nick got the link
03:02:35.840that i just sent him because this is i absolutely a thousand times should have used this for the uh
03:02:44.000promo picture for today's um episode but this has always been beautiful to me and i hope he can pull
03:02:51.920it up so ali says i've read that freya's tears that fall on land turn into sunstone which is golden
03:02:59.840colored and tear shaped found near salt and those that fall in the sea turn to amber what do you
03:03:08.960know of this spawn well uh yes uh i i love this painting it too especially considering uh the
03:03:20.400placement uh this is absolutely a um a culmination of what we we talk about the gods manifesting
03:03:28.880themselves in our consciousness through our blood and and through our culture and through our people
03:03:34.880and the way that we perceive beauty and the power of these things and the lament of of loss or
03:03:40.600sadness uh from beauty if beauty was if if the goddess of beauty was sad what would she shed
03:03:49.660tears of and that would be certainly of gold um i i've always heard you know of gold in and of
03:03:57.340itself not necessarily sunstone but that's interesting in and of itself i've always again
03:04:03.180the origin of freya is that she comes from the earth she is of the the gods of natural law
03:04:10.780the origination point in the cosmology is of vanaheim the land of of the the elemental
03:04:19.180formulation of of the material whether it's life or the evolution of life or whether it's
03:04:26.780truly the formulation connected to the earth and the material again uh freya galvanizes that
03:04:35.020into the form of gold or into the form of the inspiration of beauty and the necklace of gold
03:04:41.180and of amber i know that uh i you know the the tears of gold that fall to the earth and the
03:04:49.500tears that fall into the sea and make amber is mentioned and i i think that one of the things
03:04:55.660that it really correlates to is the the baltic amber trade that was we're starting to find out
03:05:01.740is extremely established during like the roman periods the the people in the mediterranean knew
03:05:07.580that uh the influx of these precious stones coming from the baltic sea came from up in that area and
03:05:14.620i think this is definitely a a hint or a confirmation in the in the story about the
03:05:20.460connection to beauty the the the jewelry that you know was bringing people wealth there was trade
03:05:27.100routes there was a culture built around it there was pathways that people from uh you know rome and
03:05:34.860the alps and uh the central or southern europe they were coming up northward to trade and to
03:05:41.180gain these these precious items um when we talk about um the beauty of it and the lament of the
03:05:51.100goddess of beauty weeping gold in loss of of that where has that inspiration gone how is it influxed
03:05:59.340into the world this is definitely um an expression that i i've keyed in on with this but again the
03:06:08.220sunstone one is interesting i i'm i actually just wrote it down um i'm going to look up more into
03:06:13.980the specifics of the sunstone and i think it is interesting that both are in correlation one with
03:06:18.460the earth and two with the water and salt um which are you know key you know elements of the earth
03:06:26.300the the uh the vanic life system the the bounty of the earth and the preciousness of the things
03:06:32.380that we pull whether it's the iron or whether it's the the gold or the silver you know there's
03:06:37.740many things that are formulative but uh truly poetic and beautiful when we talk about um
03:06:46.300gold and amber yeah the artist that did this piece uh is gustav klemt
03:06:53.820folks that can't see this that are on uh listening on the podcast if you just google
03:07:02.880tears of gold painting you'll find images of this but it is it is beautiful and it really
03:07:11.600I find it really moving um also from Ali is the story of uh Brisingamon and the dwarves
03:07:23.480that she wed connected to the fact that everyone who comes into asgard demands her as a bride
03:07:30.440is this a reputation issue or due to her objective beauty what do you say sivan well i i definitely
03:07:39.480think that the the connection to the material the dwarves are the element of the material
03:07:47.880the energy and the actual tangibleness of the material and she connects with them i know a lot
03:07:56.920of people take things to mean uh flat senses of like uh oh carnal nature but we're talking about
03:08:04.600the gods and the way they interact when you know when heimdall is is brought into uh the home of
03:08:12.600grandmother and grandfather uh that's the divine being invited in there's an exchange of energy
03:08:20.120to a generation of people and so when people take it to mean just such a tangible
03:08:26.120correlative thing like oh you know she slept with these the four dwarves um
03:08:33.640i i think they're they're really missing the point is that the brisingaman is a
03:08:37.960a circular emanation it's a it's a power that binds it's a coring thing it would be much
03:08:44.640similar to the way the correlation between the belt the girdle of thor is in is again that that
03:08:52.160power being brought in um from the earthly element but the four dwarves that she pulls that from
03:09:00.060give her this symbol of her focused divine power which is the power of of desire the power of
03:09:10.700possession the and those can have dark connotations to it too but they can also have
03:09:15.020beautiful connotations the idea of the desire of someone to reach something to culminate something
03:09:22.200to create something to bring forth out of their hands or out of their heart something is just as
03:09:27.880beautiful as it is say someone who desires or covets something um that is as that's equal to
03:09:35.960but in its maliciousness kind of dangerous and and dark and i think that's why she has those two uh
03:09:43.480sides a kind of a shadowed side and a and a um a projected side of of power there's it's it's much
03:09:51.000like a hamer versus say like um you know the the dark side of the soul um that you know is reflected0.68
03:10:01.560in in her her throne in in the dominion of the middle world but yes connected to i think the0.94
03:10:07.720brisingaman and the story of the dwarves is about formulation of power from the earth the way to
03:10:14.600inflect dominion on the middle world often go through these avenues it's like attaining
03:10:22.120sections and pieces of the material to formulate and then transfer that uh in projection and power
03:10:31.960so trigger warning guys um i'm about to say something toxically masculine um
03:10:44.600Because the world around us has become so degenerate, as a counteraction, we become almost puritanical in our attitude towards sexuality, or at least in the attitude towards sexuality that we express openly.
03:11:05.860But I think we do, Lady Freya, a disservice if we don't acknowledge some of the primal in this.
03:11:14.600no i think it's absolutely about man's desire to possess and
03:11:23.120insert and inflict himself upon the ultimate object of of lust and of sexuality i think that
03:11:35.700those primal primal urges aren't you know they don't have to be bad and icky
03:11:44.040I think that the idea of wanting to possess and own the most beautiful woman imaginable sexually is, you know, a primal longing that I think all men feel.
03:12:03.840I think that if men didn't feel that, we probably wouldn't be here today and wouldn't have the reproductive drive that we have.
03:12:14.040the connection between feminine sexuality and beauty and gold is a very visceral one
03:12:28.140because you can see the idea of men lusting after gold. You see these pioneers in the American West
03:12:36.620sacrificing everything to go and dig in a in a mine that may never produce anything with the
03:12:45.860idea that they're lusting after gold and maybe maybe they can find this gold and this just
03:12:52.480ravenous lust for this gold and you see it with the conquistador going into the amazon looking
03:12:59.080for el dorado and every man feels that when they see a just overwhelmingly attractive woman and
03:13:13.160that in its proper place is beautiful and special that when it's
03:13:19.320metastasized when it's not in control of uh when men don't don't use their their wisdom to control
03:13:31.080it is uh is malignant but this is something that i alluded to earlier when i talked about
03:13:40.520odin being master over these wolves or freya being master over these these wild cats
03:13:49.320But the astral, the higher self, being able to master the primal urges and direct those in ways that are appropriate or in ways that are beneficial, that's the key to our faith.
03:14:03.040the primal urges and the primal bestial nature of man left unrestrained and ungoverned
03:14:13.380that's what we fight against that's the chaos that our gods of order battle but when order
03:14:22.780dominates chaos and directs chaos towards fruitful ends that's something worthy of of uh
03:14:31.360of thinking and of appreciating. But, you know, as we've seen with so many other
03:14:38.640quote unquote pagan movements, they immediately go to the sexual, they immediately go to the most0.95
03:14:45.460base, and then they give it excessive license and make their entire focus the orgy. And,0.98
03:14:54.020you know, we certainly don't want to be that. But we would do a disservice if we didn't
03:15:00.180acknowledge that so much of just the mesmerizing power that Lady Freya possesses is that power of
03:15:08.560lust after feminine beauty. And that's inspired our men since the beginning and inspires our men
03:15:16.920right down till today. And as long as we keep making, you know, white babies, it inspires our1.00
03:15:23.940folk in the future and i it would be wrong not to acknowledge that that is true0.99
03:26:28.020he's warrior. That's, that's a better option than, than Egbert. Um, oh, come on.
03:26:38.100You name your kid Egbert. I might beat them up. We'll see. Um,0.92
03:26:44.540so Ali brings up another good point that I think it's worth mentioning.
03:26:49.980And this is also part of a Goethe David James's talk that he gave that I mentioned earlier.
03:26:55.140I know we don't do God names for our kids as general etiquette, but what's the etiquette about naming children after modern house true heroes?
03:27:04.080So I should throw this out here. I know that there are people listening to this podcast right now that have named their children directly the names of our gods.
03:27:15.680I'm not trying to shame anybody. I'm not trying to criticize anybody. I'm not trying to hurt any feelings.
03:27:20.860ideally that's not what we do and it's not what our ancestors did they would conjugate the name
03:27:29.820of one of our gods with something else like uh thorbjorn the bear of thor or thorstein the the
03:27:41.040this the rock of four thorbert thorbert um and they used thor a lot but you can use any of our gods to
03:27:54.720conjugate with another word that means you know x of this god that still honors that god without
03:28:06.160substituting the god's name for our children's names but again i'm not i know that my intention
03:28:14.240is not to hurt any feelings with that what i do what i what i'm willing to hurt feelings on i want
03:28:18.960you guys to stop doing is please don't name your pets after our gods please that's what i was gonna
03:28:23.280say people do that it's really common i understand it's a thing sometimes it's probably not done with
03:28:31.120you know what most all the time it's not done with bad intentions
03:28:36.560but please don't do that let's let's stop naming our pets after our gods
03:28:44.320um but yeah the idea of naming our children after modern alsa true heroes i think is a beautiful
03:28:52.560thing to do um you know certainly naming them after our ancient heroes is great
03:29:00.880but i think you know naming a child after after lc christiansen or after alexander rudd mills or
03:29:12.800you know i'm i'm thinking of our modern heroes after guido von list
03:29:18.240if you wanted to name them after either hoskold or stubba after john gibbs bailey or john ewell
03:29:25.520i think john is a name that you'd want to avoid and try to find the germanic equivalent
03:29:30.880to John. But naming them after our modern heroes, I think is a beautiful thing to do.
03:29:37.240And I hope people do that. I hope people start doing that. I think that's a really cool thing
03:29:42.360to do. Do you have any thoughts on this, Fawn? Yeah, I think that's great. Some people I know,
03:29:49.260with Alexander, sometimes I know the Nordic equivalent that came about was Axel. That's
03:29:57.920actually a just a you know a lot of names morph over time um like uh rodolf in uh rodolf is is
03:30:09.220has turned into rudolph or rodolfo amongst even the the it's spread all the way through
03:30:15.560the latin speaking uh countries they they they have a lot of germanic names that you can see
03:30:22.040um in their in their language uh even down to like rolo and and things so there's there's lots
03:30:28.420of evolutions of those names that you could easily equate to if you didn't want to go with
03:30:34.420full spellings or um things of that nature you there's a lot of stuff you could do behind the
03:30:39.900name is a great great website but you know again you had mentioned too like philip philip is a
03:30:46.360Greek name, phileopos, that the friendly horse is what it means, is that the horse that is a joy
03:30:54.980to ride. It was seen as such a culturally good thing to have a horse and to be able to ride to
03:31:05.660the horizon on a horse, the freedom of it. And so there's a lot of correlation and names
03:31:12.060uh with your with the history of it and you know knowing it and teaching your kids you know i i
03:31:17.740grew up i'm named after my grandfather and you know swan is one apparently very hard for people
03:31:24.000to say they i i there's a lady that still calls me seven i don't know why
03:31:29.640she calls me seven every time i walk into the store um but uh you know or i you know the the
03:31:41.940the Filipino and Spanish, or Spanish direct, like, they can't say S and V, they have to say S and B.
03:31:52.240So I've, you know, I've been called Saban in some of my jobs and, and things of that nature. So,
03:31:58.140you know, when you have a name like that, that, you know, gets confused or again, Swan, Swanee,
03:32:05.640I've heard it all. And it, but all the while having pride in my, having my grandfather's name is
03:32:11.940has you know it's it's a character building i believe for every uh child growing up because
03:32:21.240children are you know children they're going to be that way but never relenting that's my that
03:32:27.020was my grandfather's name and i held on to that despite the jokes and all of that um but speaking
03:32:33.060of like you had said with like uh thor thor bjorn you know my middle name is odorf and it's other
03:32:39.640is frenzy or statusism, but it's also kind of Odin's Wolf or Odr is just ecstatic. But
03:32:48.760yeah, you can, so many names, so many cool things that you can do. But look at the Anglo-Saxon
03:32:56.900names. There's a lot of them that correlate as well. Yes, Fawn started mentioning Alexander.
03:33:02.780If I were a Spaniard, I would absolutely want to be named or name my male child Alejandro.
03:33:09.960Alejandro, I always thought it's a really cool Spanish version of a neat name.
03:33:18.340So because we're flapping our gums longer, we have one more question.
03:33:23.600Sierra asks, what's the saga behind Njorther and his wife met and how Frey and Freyer came to be?
03:33:31.880spawn direct people to lore lore uh primary evidence for these things well it's mentioned
03:33:40.040in the uh gilfagining and that correlates um to well let me actually let me make sure i don't
03:33:47.840mess this up but it is it's see that's the thing is they're referenced a lot of the lore that we
03:33:52.400get even from freya uh freya's lore comes from like uh hindle hindle load and that is actually
03:34:00.520mentioned, uh, it's, it's mentioned in the prosetas, but there's no entirety of it. It's
03:34:07.440actually in, uh, the flat, flatier bulk, I think is, um, I'd have to look it up to make sure I'm
03:34:14.720pronouncing it correctly, but it's, it's actually spoken there in its entirety. So there's references
03:34:21.020kind of all throughout, um, you know, when we talk about the exact ones, let's see, we're,
03:34:28.880we're looking at, um, uh, uh, uh, and Scottie in, um, you know, direct reference. Let me see here
03:34:44.560because the Guild for Beginning clearly mentions it.
03:35:40.540yeah like uh okay so i mean yes it's every grimness mall and the flighting of loki of
03:35:46.220course is mentioned there as well uh exact yeah the gulf beginning and in the skull drop us uh
03:35:54.460this uh skull scarper mall he's referenced as well in the in the wedding so those two
03:36:01.580uh in particular mention him with his uh marriage to scotty after the death of thiazzy um0.83
03:36:10.220um so i think the best reference to all of the things you just asked is the guilt the gilfaggeny
03:36:20.620yeah uh 23. the third among the iser is he that is called nyorder he dwells in heaven
03:36:32.140In the abode called Noaten, he rules the course of the wind and stills sea and fire.
03:36:42.240On him shall men call for voyages and for hunting.
03:36:46.360He is so prosperous and abounding in wealth that he may give them great plenty of lands or of gear.
03:36:53.880And him shall men invoke for such things.1.00
03:36:57.260Nyurther is not of the race of the Iser.0.92
03:36:59.660He was reared in the land of the Vanir, but the Vanir delivered him as a hostage to the gods and took for hostage in exchange to him that men called Honir.0.96
03:37:12.140He became an atonement between the gods and the Vanir.0.82
03:37:16.140And Jorther has to wife a woman called Skadi, daughter of the Jasti, the giant.0.84
03:37:23.020Skavi would feign dwell in the abode with her father, which her father had,
03:37:28.820which is on certain mountains in the place called Thrymheimr.