00:03:00.000Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's exciting edition of Victory Never Sleeps.
00:03:11.720As you may notice, we are joined once again by our law speaker, Alan Turnage, who has been
00:03:20.700away on various adventures for the past couple of months.
00:03:23.460So it's good to have him back in the in the co-host seat tonight to talk to us about adulting and to answer any and all of your questions about any topic you might bring to him.
00:03:38.280So now is your time. Come up with questions. He will attempt to answer them.
00:03:44.360I will also, when appropriate, throw in my two cents on some of these questions.
00:03:51.600And, yeah, we'll have a fun night this evening.
00:14:21.080So, it's not that I've dedicated my life to this topic, but I have spent an untoward amount of time thinking through the minutia of this particular topic.
00:14:38.640It has brushed up against me in, that's the wrong phrasing, but I have run into it in several health-related videos and books that I have been keeping up with.
00:14:49.920And so a couple of bits of advice on that topic, and then we will turn to more seemly questions from the audience unless we want to dig into the minutia of this topic.
00:15:03.540So one thing is that the modern toilet, the modern flush toilet, for all of its magnificence, puts our body in the wrong posture for complete evacuation.
00:20:04.360your generosity personally is astounding much appreciated thank you um
00:20:11.960and leroy donated ten dollars excuse me ten dollars each towards paying off phrase off
00:20:18.760and towards the cigarette pavilion so thank you for that leroy we appreciate you um law speaker
00:20:27.000what else do you got in the in the chamber for us so a couple things um one since you mentioned
00:20:32.760gilbert um i want to thank him publicly for uh the air conditioner that he contributed to
00:20:40.520um i don't know how many people know or how many fewer of them even care but we had a bat
00:20:47.720we had an infestation of bats habitating in one of the wall air conditioners there at njordzov
00:20:54.840it was causing an unpleasant aroma because the bats were pooping in the air conditioner
00:21:07.140not following my advice and squatting over the toilet so we had to buy a new air conditioner
00:21:15.300And I will say that one of the other members and apprentice folk builder, Michael Van Dyke, and our Hoff steward, John, and I spent three hours arguing and engineering and figuring out a solution to put that air conditioning unit into the slot where the old air conditioner came out.
00:21:41.980it works great it's a vast improvement they washed the wall outside so it looks like a wall
00:21:48.820now and not like an outdoor restroom for vets but Gilbert thank you thank you thank you for
00:21:56.720facilitating that and making that happen because oh and I'll say this too like this is part of the
00:22:06.040magic stuff of what we all do and it's the and this was kind of weird yes that word the um
00:22:16.460because the bats have been in there for several months um consistently and we can hear them
00:22:23.120squeaking around and doing stuff in there um but uh when we went to put in the air conditioner we
00:22:31.280were debating whether to just shove the bats out of there or you know make a bat valve and let them
00:22:37.040get out and go away but when we started messing around with it the bats had gone so the bats left
00:22:43.700the air conditioner that they were living in after having been in there for several months
00:22:49.340and what that suggests to me um is that like they they they heard us coming from months away
00:22:58.800and they vacated the property because that was the right thing to do so that we didn't hurt them
00:23:06.340they didn't hurt us it uh you know it's pretty weird that that stuff happens um but that's what
00:23:14.260happened um uh hand on my hammer and interestingly enough bat feces or guano is may is a primary
00:23:32.580thing ingredient in tnt well there was about enough around there for a big m80 maybe um but
00:23:42.340But by the time you dilute it with Clorox and ammonia, it was pretty thin, but I guess we could have saved it and decocted it.
00:23:52.940But we didn't because we're good citizens.
00:23:56.660But I just thought it was noteworthy that the bats knew we were coming and did our job for us by, you know, by not making them disturb themselves.
00:24:09.480Excuse me. I'm sorry about this cough.
00:24:12.340And, two, I bought two bat boxes and put up on the property.
00:24:19.440So, if the bats choose to return home, there's now a safe habitat for you that is not inside our air conditioner.
00:24:46.880yeah as a as a note and as a thing the flavels will be down to
00:24:55.480yorkshoff to celebrate uh mayday summer mall here in
00:25:01.200next month on third weekend whenever that falls and we'll be down there looking forward to seeing
00:25:08.700anybody down there so if i've got folks who can make it to new york's off in white springs florida
00:25:14.460we'd love to see you then um and we look forward if you'll remind me because i'm i'll text you
00:25:24.620about that when we get okay get done with the show i don't like fiddling with my phone while
00:25:28.860we're on the air no worries um cool so what else do you have for us tonight alan well
00:25:38.460So a couple of things, you know, in brief review, first of all, you know, I think one of the very
00:25:44.780first topics that I talked about, which still gets me a lot of emails from the folk is talking about
00:25:51.260debt, which to me, like really simply, you should not use credit for anything except the house.
00:26:00.780I know that people buy cars on credit. That's typically unhealthy. But if you have to have, you know, if you have to have car payments, at the very least, you should be very careful about the deal that you make.
00:26:17.980I mean, the Kelly Blue Book is online, so you can always tell exactly what a vehicle is worth, so you should never pay more than what a car is worth.
00:26:27.760One of my other mottos that I like to promote to my clientele, and I practice bankruptcy law for anybody who doesn't know that,
00:26:39.880but one of the things that I promote to my clientele is that maintenance is cheaper than payments.
00:26:46.100Even if you have to put in a $2,000 transmission into a vehicle to get it back on the road, I mean, that's three or four or five months of payments that you would make on a new vehicle.
00:27:03.840The warranty is never worth the price of having to pay a new vehicle that takes you months and months and months of payments before you own any of it.
00:27:11.700I also, and again, this is just a matter of adulting, is that you maintain your vehicles, keep your air pressure right, change the oil.
00:27:24.980I know modern oil supposedly runs 10,000 miles, but I always change mine at 5,000 because the mechanics I've talked to say the filters get clogged, even if the oil is still good.
00:27:40.720And I have a truck out there with 160,000 miles on it that, and the oil, you know, the oil that's been in there for 5,000 miles looks brand new.
00:27:53.800And so my goal is to get another 150,000 miles out of that truck.
00:28:00.880And again, if you, you know, if you, if you maintain your vehicles, they will live a lot longer and be worth it.
00:28:10.000You know, a vehicle is an investment in getting you where you need to go, so you need to make the most of that investment.
00:28:17.360There's no reason not to keep a vehicle until the engine blows and leaves you dead somewhere.
00:28:25.260Um, also the, you know, the other part that, that tries to be my overarching theme and the way that I approach these things. Um, and the reason that, um, vehicle maintenance and poop gets mentioned in the same episode is that, um, part of the, part of my, part of my goal with this, uh, series is to,
00:28:53.660for all of us to have a more integrated, holistic view of the way that we live our lives.
00:29:02.140We have to be integrated into the world and in the world of commerce, which is generally unhealthy and soulless.
00:29:13.600So, you know, as we try to activate our higher selves and attain the highest degree of ourselves that we can,
00:29:21.740Again, a lot of that, part of that goal should be to buy less and make more, grow food, have bees, can stuff, you know, bake, cook.
00:29:36.860You know, a meal that you make at home costs a tenth as much and is ten times as good for you.
00:29:42.640So those are the sorts of things that, again, you know, it seems like a random choice of topics.
00:29:47.720sometimes it is but the the goal of it is to be to you know because whole holistic and holy all
00:29:56.500have the same root word so the more integrated that you are um the less cognitive dissonance
00:30:05.040that you have in your brain and you know the less echo there is in there and you can be
00:30:09.160one whole person um there's a lot of strange stuff that comes out of that you know that i
00:30:16.620have as tonight's opening topic portrays. There's a lot of strange stuff that
00:30:22.040revolves around that. I'm glad to share any of that that anybody has any questions about.
00:30:27.840So just as another random topic along that same sort of line, like in the morning and in the
00:30:35.020evening, you shouldn't turn on your big overhead light. I know that seems strange, right? Like
00:30:39.920what difference does it make? It's because for tens of thousands of years, millions of years,
00:30:44.920you know the light when it first comes up it's red and it's off on the horizon so like the sun
00:30:51.900doesn't appear at noon as a big white thing so you sleep better and you're more
00:30:58.980your circadian rhythm is better if you have you know side lights lamps and sort of that sort of
00:31:07.480thing and as orange and orientation like these led bulbs are great they save energy and save heat
00:31:14.880But you need to get the red ones, you know, so that they're more an orange type color.
00:31:21.580And then, you know, when you go to bed at night, you leave your phone in the other room.
00:31:26.620There's nothing that's going to happen overnight that you have to attend to unless you're a surgeon that's got a, you know,
00:31:33.800that may have to be called into emergency heart surgery or something.
00:38:30.240Do you have more up front for us? Because we also do have questions tonight and a variety of asking Alan's stuff.
00:38:40.180I can point out where a lot of that blame comes in while you line up the first question you want to ask.
00:38:47.720You know, we go back to the Cartesian duality, you know, where Rene, as I've learned, is the pronunciation Rene Descartes.
00:39:00.800said you know that there's material and spiritual and there's not any overlap and that's certainly
00:39:06.160the belief of many of the major major mainstream religions that only the nothing out there is
00:39:13.360sacred but we also tour um this life is sacred um the lives that we take in order to feed ourselves
00:39:24.800those lives are sacred and that's and you treat that with respect
00:39:30.080and yes we kill to eat but we do it in a we try to do it in a respectful way
00:39:38.080you know the our factory farm system is a profanation of of everything that is right
00:39:44.640and holy about the way we feed ourselves and that should be upended as well um but
00:39:49.760until we do away with the moneyed interest in agribusiness that's not going to happen either
00:39:58.800also the frankfurt school if you're not familiar with that
00:40:03.520check it out it's pretty scary we're living in the cali yuga baby all right so
00:40:10.320this isn't an alan specific one this is one we've gotten emailed to us and uh anybody if you have
00:40:20.480questions at any time either during the program or literally anytime vns at runestone.org and we
00:40:29.040will answer your questions at the next opportunity nolan asks dear vns my multi-part question is
00:40:40.000which runic alphabet does the afa work with chiefly the elder or younger food thought why
00:40:46.800is there a master document you refer to for runic meanings for those of us that want to
00:40:51.840make a study of it thank you um almost i don't know i feel the i feel the need to say almost but
00:41:02.960But exclusively, the AFA uses the Elder Futhark.
00:41:07.360But, I mean, that's not to say there's something wrong or inappropriate about the Younger.
00:41:15.340Certainly for writing, if you're trying to, you know,
00:41:20.400writing most of the runic inscriptions that we have are in the Younger Futhark.
00:41:26.660Phonetically, if you're trying to reproduce English,
00:41:29.420the anglo-saxon food fork is a better option for you because it's catered more towards the
00:41:36.960development of english language but most of the time in the afa we're not writing things and
00:41:43.060some people may own a piece of art or on a flag or something but we use them for galder work
00:41:51.120or other more esoteric more magical purposes and for that we've got a long-standing tradition
00:41:59.020with um with the elder truth arc and it's i don't think it's inappropriate to use different
00:42:08.300rune arrangements for that but we have a built-in tradition
00:42:13.380of using the elder truth arc and you know it's not a
00:42:19.100it's a tradition that we've been doing since the 1980s
00:42:26.520so you know in the grand scheme of things it's not some some ancient tradition on it it's i
00:42:33.500would imagine that for various magical purposes our ancestors used a variety of different systems
00:42:39.120but the elder the elder runes have a more attested magical use and less of a phonetic use i'd say
00:42:51.220um a lot of people have asked about that kind of mat of master text that details you know
00:42:59.980the afa approved interpretation of each of these runic symbols and i think that developing
00:43:06.640something like that would be really cool it's something that's kind of on the wish list of
00:43:11.320something that one day we'd like to have we rely um i would say that we lean heavy heaviest upon
00:43:22.920the runic tradition and understanding of dr stephen flowers um he has done really groundbreaking work
00:43:34.120on runology and you know both the academic study of the runes but also of practical application
00:43:42.360and magical usage of the runes he's been working very consistently on that since at least the early
00:43:50.3601980s and his works you know again i i don't claim that it's perfection or the be-all and
00:43:59.320end all but it's certainly the place where i think all of us start and i'd be willing to say that i
00:44:05.800think most all of us in the world start with because as i said i think his stuff is he really
00:44:12.360did break new ground in you know the 20th century as far as as rune work goes uh before his work in
00:44:22.120the rooms most esoteric rune things were related to the armin and futhark and were done in you know
00:44:29.000the romantic period and afterwards in germany so the working with the elder futhark is really
00:44:35.400something that he popularized and added so much meat to the bone of so i would recommend that i'd
00:44:42.200say that um futhark by his pen name is edrid thorson um if you google it or whatever either
00:44:52.520of those will bring it up but futhark is his original work on it and he expounds on it
00:44:59.880in a number of subsequent works but i'd say futhark and room lower
00:45:04.040would give you the most of that and as just kind of a fun aside
00:45:10.760alu is a book that he wrote more on like expanding the magical uses and discussing
00:45:24.560esoteric uses of runes i want to say that's one of his newer things but by newer i mean like 15
00:45:30.260years old but it was it was something that i really liked um that kind of stood out and it's
00:45:35.600a book i hear talked about a lot and then as kind of another honorable mention for somebody who is
00:45:41.280completely brand new to rooms and has no uh no previous understanding of them or for um you know
00:45:48.640young adults or or older children i would recommend um the room workshop by leon wilde and that's a
00:45:56.960really a really good and i think very accessible work about rooms um alan do you have anything
00:46:05.760you'd like to add on it excuse me yeah um a couple things um one certainly i i you know i
00:46:14.480like most of us work almost exclusively in the elder food's art um one of the and i don't think
00:46:22.960it was any of flowers work although he may have talked about it um but many of the brachiates that
00:46:31.600are found and other things have the entire food are carved on them um as a as a work and what
00:46:41.600What the archaeologists and sociologists who have studied it think is that that representation of the runes was very much like, for our folk, it was very much like what the Oriental cultures use with the yin and yang symbol.
00:47:07.140So that speaking of those runes and the writing of those runes was a way of saying, you know, this is the world.
00:47:19.380And so one of the things that we started doing at Njordshav and that I've been doing for a while is Galdring the Futhark, the Futhark, just like that.
00:49:27.900Anybody who will criticize us for dressing up for Hoff has got, they need to find a life.
00:49:35.700The, you know, because we're not dressing like Protestants.
00:49:39.480we're dressing like, we're dressing like adults in the modern era. Um, you know, there was a time
00:49:48.06020 years ago or so when, when it was not unusual to, you know, for people to come in, uh, you know,
00:50:00.300come to bloat and wear a tunic or, you know, a lap belt or, or any of that sort of stuff.
00:50:06.820That time is gone. You know, I don't think there is, I mean, if you're an archaeologist and you know different, you can correct me, but I don't think there's any evidence that, like the Vikings, when they would, they didn't dress in a loincloth and carry a club to go worship Oven.
00:50:25.260They dressed like Vikings because they were Vikings.
00:50:33.780And Europeans, don't want to short you guys, and Canadians, our 51st state.
00:50:41.280So, you know, and we dress respectfully.
00:50:46.300When we go to ceremony, we're going to meet and commune with our gods.
00:50:51.840And, you know, and we should show them that proper degree of respect.
00:50:56.940Like if you went to go have lunch with the governor or even the mayor, I mean, you wouldn't go in, hopefully, you wouldn't go in flip-flops and, you know, in a crop top, right?
00:51:11.640So you want to go and treat yourself with respect, treat our gods with respect.
00:51:16.940And it has nothing to do with being too churchy.
00:51:29.140You don't, you know, you're, you're, you treat like you, you dress like you have some respect for yourself.
00:51:37.380At the same time, if all you can afford, you know, if you, if you, you can, if you've just got a polo shirt and some nice jeans, that's good enough.
00:51:45.640but we prefer leadership especially don't have to wear red or white but the um because that you
00:51:57.120know is another thing but the but we um but dress like you have some respect for yourself and respect
00:52:04.060for the people that you're going to see and again that you know all this devolve you know this this
00:52:08.480again speaks the deterioration of our culture people you know you go out to eat at a nice
00:52:14.320restaurant you don't wear a death leopard t-shirt and shorts and flip-flops when you're going out
00:52:21.520to dinner at any place besides waffle house right act like you have some respect act like you're an
00:52:27.840adult 100 um and yeah the questions assumptions are correct the people who complain about that
00:52:40.080would literally complain about anything we did um as far as traditional outs of true garb
00:52:51.920from when like we're dealing with thousands of years from the
00:53:00.400the ice age to 1000 and across what location where styles, hairstyles, clothing styles
00:53:13.160changed tremendously during that time period.
00:53:16.040We're also not trying to, ah, but you know, Steve kind of restarted the rebirth of Ausitru
00:53:22.880really took shape in the early seventies, but we don't show up in bell bottoms and you
00:53:27.580know there's no none of that makes sense and i think that if our detractors really cared to
00:53:35.320think about it it doesn't it's not a protestant wearing um a shirt and a tie ladies wearing
00:53:42.540dresses yes it's what protestants do it's also what catholics do it's what anyone who's going
00:53:49.920to court or going to a formal occasion or going to a wedding or going to anything they take
00:53:58.000seriously do it's what you do when you're going for a job interview it's what you're doing when
00:54:03.920you're trying to take care about your appearance in the modern world in the modern west um
00:54:12.000and our our fashion of what we wear to bloat isn't stuck in time now i can see a case being
00:54:18.160made for a special garment for um for clergy but what we've seen when people attempt that is
00:54:27.440just viking clothes there's not an idea of like what uh and the australia has tried to come up
00:54:34.960with something that they think is you know would be a suitable clerical garment for it but most
00:54:42.000people viking dress up isn't the same as trying to dress like a gothi so there's nothing inherently
00:54:51.680holy or sacred or also true by doing you know wearing reenactment garb um that said
00:54:59.560the the principle much like alan says you're trying to present yourself in a dignified way
00:55:07.300the best that you have available to show honor and respect to the gods and to present yourself
00:55:14.900to an audience that you should supremely care about if you care what your parents think when
00:55:21.600you show up to their wedding anniversary or you care what your friend thinks when you show up to
00:55:25.720his wedding if you care what the judge thinks or the jury when you show up to court if you care
00:55:31.580what a potential employer thinks, how much more should you care what your gods think?
00:55:38.380And, you know, yes, it's what Christians do because they're there to worship a god that
00:55:43.360they believe in and to present their best selves. It's the exact same reason that we
00:55:47.480should dress our best. I say that. The AFA encourages that. We don't get rid of people
00:55:57.120or scold them or treat them badly if they show up how they show up.
00:56:02.920I think the only times that that's been a thing
00:56:05.360is if somebody shows up wearing something that is overtly offensive.
00:56:10.600Somebody shows up with clothes with profanity on it
00:56:14.060or gratuitous vulgar sexuality on it or whatnot,
00:56:19.980something completely inappropriate for the situation.
00:56:23.660But other than that, no, we have something that we aspire to, but people figure out the best that they have.
00:56:32.560But, yeah, we should always want to present ourselves the best we can when we approach our gods and our ancestors.
00:56:40.160And I think that's obvious on the face of it.
00:56:43.480And some of the criticism I don't think is disingenuine or at the very least is not well thought out.
00:56:50.740And you can see where that's coming from.
00:56:52.800And, you know, they couldn't they couldn't present themselves respectively on a dare.
00:57:00.380I'll say, too, that like here at Northoff, we have a rack of collared shirts for men.
01:05:16.840I think the purchase agreements that we enter into for our HOFs, the negotiations that we do, I run point on a lot of that sort of thing.
01:05:29.480I maintain the compliance with state registries so that, you know, every place where we have a HOF, we also have to have a corporation so that we can do business.
01:05:43.020You know, even a church is doing business in the broadest sense of the word as a 501c3 church.
01:05:51.320So I maintain compliance with all of that.
01:05:54.560Also, then within the AFA, first of all, I offer advice to members on legal matters.
01:06:06.820I can I can think of half a dozen instances where people come to me about like child support and child custody matters that's outside my area of practice.
01:06:18.260And also it varies greatly state by state, but I help people negotiate the maze of legal remedies that are out there and the legal resources that are available.
01:06:37.240You know, even if it's helping people find the right attorney or, you know, depending on the way, depending on your circumstances, there might be free legal help that's available to you in your state to deal with those sorts of things.
01:06:49.380Internally in the AFA, I counsel, I was Harry Goethe. He sometimes listens to me about things. And we, as we guide the, our ship into victory, we, you know, we try to do things.
01:07:12.420And I try to know and understand the traditions and the way that the folk would have dealt with things.
01:07:27.460so that we when we take oaths when we make oaths and when we deal with people who want to be
01:07:37.020released from their oaths and that sort of thing that we do that in the in a way that is most
01:07:41.600pleasing to the gods so that they can so that those folk can so we can maintain the integrity
01:07:50.900of the oar log of the organization and our own weird and owned to maintain that entire and intact.
01:08:04.660And I try to do that within the context of modern ausitry.
01:08:13.140Yeah, a lot of people, I don't know that they fully realize that.
01:08:18.040think that you know they they hear the title and um don't i don't think a lot of people contemplate
01:08:27.640all that goes into doing this at the level that we've been fortunate enough to to find ourselves
01:08:34.520at um it is such a tremendous boon to the afa that we have a you know a practicing for
01:08:45.640you know decades attorney uh in our leadership giving us advice um running things by um
01:08:56.280and being able to consult with things we live in a world where our society is very litigious
01:09:02.040there's all kind of bureaucracies and procedures to navigate especially when you are at a stage
01:09:10.120where you have we have actual properties we have hoffs and where you're dealing with um
01:09:17.640and i've mentioned this on here too uh our gothar deal with so much more membership counseling than
01:09:27.640i think anyone would really know and and why would they it's stuff that's kept confidential and
01:09:33.800and discuss behind the scenes but our group is large enough in the afa our membership is large
01:09:44.360enough that we have people with such a wide variety of situations that they face that they
01:09:51.320need counsel on it is so valuable to have an attorney that can help you know help them guide
01:09:59.000or help guide them through the process help them you know make good decisions for the situation
01:10:05.720they find themselves in or for planning for the future um it's also tremendously valuable to have
01:10:12.280someone that you know that i can consult about these kind of things that has experience in a lot
01:10:19.960of real world doing stuff that many of us it's a side of things that many of us never encounter
01:10:28.280or if we encounter it's you know in a very particular and very limited way
01:10:33.560it's it's very much a wealth of experience and expertise that he's kind enough to uh
01:10:38.920extend to us and it's very much appreciated but it's been a huge deal having alan
01:10:46.280serving our leadership and advise me and the rest of us on all the things we've done to
01:10:55.080step our game up and to raise also true to the level that it ought to be or towards the level
01:11:01.160that it ought to be we still have much work to do and we're always working on it but it's been
01:11:06.600a real game changer to have to have alan's expertise in in in our functioning in our
01:11:13.880leadership and advising me well and i i appreciate you saying that i it's a great honor um and uh
01:11:22.360And, you know, the rest of my life is just a support system for my ossative habit.
01:11:35.480So here's two questions for each of us.
01:11:45.220what is the most regrettable event you have experienced or witnessed
01:11:51.880within the greater Ausatru quote-unquote movement, either near or far past?
01:12:00.160Alan, what would you say is the most regrettable event that you've experienced
01:12:04.380or witnessed within an Ausatru context?
01:12:07.020um i'm sorry um as a single event i think the really the the most regrettable
01:12:16.640thing is you know we had a guy at um who was homeless um who had applied for membership at
01:12:29.480the AFA, and then he came down and was camping out across the street from Njordtsov. Now,
01:12:39.620for those who don't know, there is a state park that is directly across the street from Njordtsov,
01:12:45.500so it wasn't like he was camping out in somebody's yard. He was camping out at a state park,
01:12:50.100albeit not in a sanctioned camping place. But then, um, at some point he, uh, you know, he
01:13:01.340came over and tried to force himself into the hop. Like he was, you know, he was going to come
01:13:08.000in there and, you know, I don't know what his plan was, but, um, you know, it was regrettable,
01:13:14.420but he tried to force his way in the door. Um, there were six of six or eight of us men
01:13:19.520in the door prevented his entrance um i tried to counsel him to you know to say you know odin
01:13:26.360doesn't approve or you know however i was phrasing it um you know odin wants you to get your mind
01:13:32.160right but instead he uh you know chose to rush the door several of us uh prevented that um the
01:13:41.980cops came and arrested him um and took him off now that's regrettable in the sense that we
01:13:48.140He even though and that was the culmination of several weeks of that guy interacting with us.
01:13:54.640And it made me sad that we couldn't reach him and turn that little switch in his brain, because, you know, if he has that much energy and gumption, you know, he could have been a real asset for us.
01:14:11.540But instead, he, you know, he turned into an arrest and, you know, the cops trespassed him and ran him out of town that, you know, as a single incident, I think that was the thing that comes most immediately to mind.
01:14:26.020And more broadly speaking, the thing that I regret, like, as a broader incident, and it may be some of the people that we hint at about some of our critics who, without speaking their name, because I can't do it without a string of vulgarity.
01:14:52.200But, you know, the people who have split with us over non-issues, over minor minutia, those who refuse to join because we don't do stuff in some ancient, archaic way that's directly out of the, you know, out of the lore.
01:15:13.980I think, you know, those sorts of ticky tack, purity spirals that cause people to split with us.
01:15:28.740And, you know, that they, that, like, in the broadest sense, that causes me more consternation than this guy who is obviously mentally unstable.
01:15:43.400well, these are people who are rational and, you know, have their reason.
01:15:46.660And I, you know, I mean, I understand, like, if we don't, you know,
01:15:56.380none of us are doing this exactly like we want to.
01:16:01.120I mean, you know, if I was in charge, things would be slightly different.
01:16:04.800If somebody else was in charge, it would be a slight other difference.
01:16:07.780But what we do and under Matt's able and well-considered leadership, we are adopting a practice that is that harkens back to true worship of the Aesir.
01:16:20.820We are doing it. The AFA is right in the things that we do.
01:16:25.840And we are doing it in the most the most pious and reverential way that can be conceived in the modern world.
01:16:37.780And so those who split with us over minor quibbles over doctrine, you know, that's the big regret, you know, is, you know, those guys who split off and think they know something we don't because they don't.
01:21:09.440suicide is still the leading cause of death in the astro folk assembly
01:21:13.680And there have been a significant number of men, most of them young, but not all, who have been in the Astru Folk Assembly or in close association with us who've taken their own life because the weight of the negativity that they see around them has made them so hopeless that they couldn't overcome it.
01:21:45.380And I think, you know, regrettable is an interesting word because there's stuff that's, you know, a calamity.
01:21:52.820There's all kind of things, but regretting implies, man, I wish there was something I could have done different.
01:21:58.540and on those situations we always try to find any way that we could have done something better
01:22:06.840or that we can support people better or that we could catch those things before people get to that
01:22:12.480point and i think we'll always be trying to find a more perfect way to get there because that is
01:22:18.840it's truly sad when some young people especially and this is a huge problem with young white men
01:22:25.720when they're so beat down that they make very permanent um solutions to problems that are
01:22:33.700inherently temporary and uh yeah so if anybody is at that stage listening to this program or
01:22:41.820you find yourself there any of our go-thar would love to talk to you if that's where you're at
01:22:48.360and you've already kind of made the decision you don't really have anything to lose give it a shot
01:22:53.200reach out to somebody maybe something good can happen but we'd invite any of those people to
01:22:58.240reach out to our ghost or myself included we'd love to talk about it see if we can make
01:23:06.320you know that's we are you know um so he has a second second piece i'm gonna skip a thing here
01:23:16.480because i want to get um ron's questions what oath have you taken that you are most proud of
01:23:23.200The Goathe Oath, you know, to serve the Austin Folk Assembly, I'm certainly most proud of that.
01:23:38.400But it's, I say that, and say again, so now I'm thinking of other stuff that, you know, so like I have, and in my position of goatee, I have performed several weddings and renewals of vows.
01:23:58.420um most of them have held but a couple of them have not so you know that that too is one of
01:24:06.060those regrets i can think of a couple of members who have wandered from those vows and you know
01:24:12.460that's unfortunate but that's um you know i'm certainly proud of this ring that i wear as a
01:24:18.940Goethe of the Austro Folk Assembly, it's a great honor, and I don't have my wallet on
01:24:30.860me, but I have a card that identifies me as a member of the clergy, and every time I pull
01:24:39.860that out, I'm like, it reminds me of what a great honor it is to serve the folk.
01:24:48.940Yeah, if I would have anticipated the question, and I may ask Nick to do this anyway if he knows where it is.
01:25:00.600There's a picture of when I took my folk builder oath back in mid-summer 2010.
01:25:12.060and i mean the the uh ordination oath is certainly
01:25:19.180like superior to that but for purposes of this i'm going to say the the folk builder oath because it
01:25:25.740was like the step towards that it was the i it's what started that oath relationship
01:25:34.460in a very formal way with our gods in a particular way with the astro folk assembly
01:25:41.100and as a source of pride in it and this is also a this is a double-edged sword it cuts both ways
01:25:49.800but I look back it was a um this may have been the first time that folk builders were taking
01:25:58.540oaths to the AFA I was pretty new at that point um certainly new to participating on on the national
01:26:05.740level with the afa um but it was a mass folk builder of thing where we all came up and took
01:26:12.780our oaths and you know you look at the line of people it's probably 10 or more people there
01:26:19.100maybe even more than that um and if you could find that picture it'd be cool if not it's no big deal
01:26:27.580i'm looking it's got a load cool i appreciate you nick
01:26:31.500of the people in the picture that took that oath that day
01:26:36.920there's there's two of us that have held to it and one was um my good friend uh go through
01:26:44.860passed um almost two years ago now um but yeah i was honored to be at that at that event at my
01:26:58.540first big afa event in front of our i'll say here you go see steve mcnallan in front of people that
01:27:07.180had tremendous amount of respect for and to stand with the other folk builders and to take an oath
01:27:12.460that i took very seriously and to get to take that oath with somebody that i respect that
01:27:18.460held that oath for the entirety of of the rest of his life i'm very proud of that one and it
01:27:25.340yeah i look back with a lot of pride on that one and i i remember that one very viscerally
01:29:43.520Um, you know, there's, you know, that is absolutely a very solid and very worthwhile and noble approach to doing that.
01:29:54.860Um, so one of the other things that I do is we bless our meals. Um, you know, uh, meal blessing is not a Protestant activity. That's something that has always been done.
01:30:11.760um to to bring a a meal and to recognize the sanctity of that um the you know the animal
01:30:24.520that gave its life um the act of preparing food which is an act of love and wholeness
01:30:30.680um and even the act of eating you know in its own way is you know you're you're if it's done
01:30:37.140In a conscious way, a blessed meal is just a way of recognizing that, you know, the sanctity of that act.
01:30:50.660And now I'm going to swing my camera around.
01:30:53.140Let me see if I can do this in the right way.
01:31:02.880So I have pictures of my parents and grandparents on the altar.
01:31:07.140Um, I light a candle. Okay. I'm going to share, I'm going to do something I'll usually do. Okay. I'm going to share my morning ritual. One of the, so like after I meditate and I do the five Tibetans, which is another thing and kundalini waking practice, blah, blah, blah. So I light a candle, right? And I put it in the little candle holder. And I say this, grandfather's inspiring me at the strength of the warrior.
01:31:37.140that I may face my trials with courage and live a life of virtue and honor.
01:31:42.820Grandmothers, with your grace, guide and protect me.
01:31:46.700Seek out for me that which is good and seemly,
01:31:50.360and shield from me that which would do me harm.
01:31:57.540And that reminds me every day that I am only the,
01:32:02.840I'm today's incarnation of the folk soul.
01:32:05.720my grandparents blazed a path so i could be here and i blaze a path for my grandchildren
01:32:11.780and i take my place in the shield wall gladly
01:32:15.860so and thank you for sharing that with us i think that it's
01:32:26.020useful a lot of people have ideas of what it's supposed to be like but without a real tangible
01:32:34.980hey this is what a real person does they don't get the full picture they can't really put
01:32:41.700themselves in the spot without seeing it sometimes so it was a good question the way it was asked but
01:32:47.540it was kind of a two two-part thing that certainly build on each other but i don't think are inherently
01:33:48.280It has to be meaningful to the sender and to the receiver.
01:33:56.140And the more you are able to put your whole self into it and apply your spiritual might, as you put it, the more effective I think these things are.
01:34:10.820So, magic is such a difficult thing to talk about because it's hard to put words that make sense to the subtlety that so much of magic is.
01:34:33.460it's not a wizard with like a staff casting a fireball at someone or whatever that would be
01:34:40.200awesome if you can do that let me know i would love to see that but more often than not it is
01:34:46.100being able to harness your spiritual might and use it to affect the world around you in some way
01:34:56.260and that is facilitated best by you being able to fully connect to what you're doing
01:35:08.340so some people and i've seen this in ritual and i've seen this in their home practice i've seen
01:35:16.680this in in you know maybe big afa bloats some people like to write stuff down and have like
01:35:26.280a script that they practice and recite read some people the act of creating that and the act of
01:35:34.840repeating it and memorizing it or however they make that happen for them the act of doing that
01:35:45.320gives them confidence and helps them to connect with what they're doing to me it's the opposite
01:35:51.400the more i have to remember or the more it's scripted the more i'm focusing on not messing
01:35:56.440up the script and the less i can be in the experience so it looks really different to
01:36:02.600different people and that's okay um as far as building better relationships with gods and
01:36:08.840ancestors i think something that alan mentioned is really important have pictures of your ancestors
01:36:21.160to the degree that's available to you have you know artifacts of theirs if you have them and
01:36:28.680And that extra element of tangibility helps.
01:40:22.000I think it builds your own spiritual might,
01:40:26.900but I also think our ancestors generally and our gods specifically
01:40:33.320have an appreciation for those of us who are able to transcend our limitations
01:40:41.580and become more than we are i think that is a special beautiful thing that shines like a
01:40:47.400beacon through all the worlds that people that spiritual persons take note of overcoming things
01:40:56.240that you are reluctant to do because of fear or because of discomfort or poor habit
01:41:04.860those things are significant the more you show that you have mastery of self the better you're
01:41:11.860able to build spiritual might and i think that's you know i think that's important for what it's
01:41:18.140worth i agree wholeheartedly and i'm while you're talking about putting those thoughts into action
01:41:24.960it also reminded me of one of the other ways that i honor my ancestors um is uh my parents
01:41:33.300And my mother's parents are buried in this small cemetery at the small church out in rural Alabama.
01:41:40.920And I send them a check every year, not because I support their mission, but because that's my way of honoring my ancestors who are buried there.
01:41:52.420And my father's mother's buried in this small Methodist church in North Carolina.
01:44:05.600how did the shinto do it no it's all done by the parishioners giving usually a percentage of what
01:44:14.880they what they produce or what they earn to the supporting of the temples the gods and the
01:44:22.480priesthood of what they believe in that's how it works and there's truth is one of our virtues
01:44:29.600And I think it's really important that our people grow up and understand that that's how things work. And this aversion to money or this discomfort with that is a hurdle that we really have to get over.
01:44:45.900And so many of our people have. It's why we're able to have, you know, five Hoffs and be working on acquiring our sixth. It's why we're able to perform Alcetru at the level that we're able to. It's such a huge factor in that. And it's, you know, this pettiness when it comes to money is something that's got to get overcome.
01:45:11.380unfortunately you know as we've seen for the generosity just on display in this show so many
01:45:15.940of our people have have moved past that and have given very generously to the astra folk assembly
01:45:23.220and it's moved us forward in a lot of ways and it's very much appreciated um
01:45:30.740okay appreciate this question for both of you dashing gentlemen
01:45:35.700Alan, what do you feel was your most formative moments in your AUSA troop path?
01:45:45.580Alan, do you have any thoughts on what were the most formative moments in your AUSA troop development?
01:46:06.520dang it see I was coughing I didn't want to cough into my throat
01:46:15.960alright so two things come immediately to mind
01:46:19.180And one was a bloat that was done before I even found the AFA.
01:46:25.560It was at the Mead Hall moot, lo these many years ago.
01:46:32.780If, because we all remember Pip and well, all those old timers remember Pip.
01:46:40.960But he gave a bloat to Tear that manifested the gods to me in a very real way.
01:46:48.840Stuff I don't usually share except in person, but I will say that that was a very moving experience for me very directly.
01:46:56.400And another very similar and more powerful moment was when I had the privilege of sharing close ceremony with our founder, Steve McNeill.
01:47:13.480He did a bloat with a small few of us up at his house where he dedicated the first AFA flag, and I found that to be powerful and moving and, like, removed any doubt.
01:47:30.180Not that I had any, but, you know, that just bolstered the certainty that I was in the right place.
01:55:49.120like evolved in slightly different sometimes in slightly different sometimes in very
01:55:54.880significant ways over the course of our folk moving developing language developing
01:56:04.160finding themselves in different uh climate in different challenges in different conflicts and
01:56:12.160developments as thousands of years of migration happen they're still the same gods and we're
01:56:19.120still the same people on a genetic level and them on a identity level but as our people move and
01:56:27.280develop different relationships things are going to stand out different if you're in a culture
01:56:31.360where you're always warring your gods are going to their standout characteristics are going to have
01:56:37.680a lot more to do with warfare if your people are more seafaring people that will become much more
01:56:43.280significant and any number of permutations in between there we've unified the way that we
01:56:50.160conceptualize and address our gods in the norse way so that we're all doing it together and so
01:56:57.040that we're unifying what we do it's part of that whole holistic approach that we talked about
01:57:01.920earlier where the pieces fit um but yeah fundamentally all white people are welcome
01:57:07.360and come home to the Ostry Folk Assembly, these are your gods, and you should worship them.
01:57:13.100We do prefer that publicly within the Ostry Folk Assembly, we express that through the Norse understanding of our gods.
01:57:24.360But, I mean, Alan, do you have addition to that?
01:57:30.300No, I think that sums it up quite nicely.
01:57:34.460I, you know, I like to think of it as different, like you said, different nomenclature, different iterations, but all the same underlying practice.
01:57:49.200The Indo-European peoples evolved and migrated and changed names for things, but they did not change the underlying structure.
01:58:02.120The striker guide, the, you know, the god of oaths, you know, it's all one thing.
01:58:12.740You know, the goddess of female agency, we invented that.
01:58:19.720So, you know, that's, we are the, you know, the, those are all, but I, I think it's absolutely right to unify it under a, you know, under a single set of nomenclature and, you know, and that way we're all doing the same thing and we know who we're talking about when we talk about the gods.
01:58:39.440So, the very last question, it's right about the same stuff.
01:58:50.120yeah let's do that question thoughts on uh adjoining with sami slavic
01:59:01.000lithanian rush and finnick traditions within aussitrew as they are drawing on that same uh
01:59:09.720northern route so i don't think that they are it's not about being far north it's about white
01:59:17.320people and not white people and i think that some of the groups mentioned in that
01:59:22.920bundle there are not that certainly the sami there's elements of finnick things that are
01:59:32.360ours and there's elements that are influenced by um i don't know if it's the in vogue term over
01:59:41.000there but inuit peoples eskimo peoples sammy peoples um those kind of not us asiatics that
01:59:49.240are in the uh the arctic um yeah the key thing comes down to us as a race of people and those
02:00:01.080practices that are authentic to our our aryan or indo-european or white people roots uh and again
02:00:11.640i think some of that's not now you see some overlap but one thing that i'd like to address
02:00:16.360on it that i think is important um there's a kind of an ongoing debate about shamanism
02:05:21.840You know, because that is an adult way of doing things.
02:05:26.680You know, you're you don't show up late and you don't question the boss.
02:05:33.740The boss isn't always right, but he is always the boss.
02:05:39.400For a while until you have some big idea of what you're doing.
02:05:43.140So treat people with respect, respect yourself, respect your place in the hierarchy.
02:05:49.640And, you know, and throw your full weight at the job, however tedious and menial it is, because, you know, that's how you, that's how you move up that, you know, you, you dress for the job you want, you know, so dress a little nicer, work a little harder, and you will earn a place, you'll earn your next place up in the ladder.
02:06:19.640All right, another Alan question. Law speaker, it is a duty for us, Alistair Truar, to reproduce, but is it a duty for us to set up dynasty trusts or perpetual trusts? Is there a difference between them?
02:06:38.060I'm glad somebody has enough money to have to ask that question.
02:13:07.740But to do that, you need to come together and move to Jackson County.
02:13:13.060Absolutely. Or participate in the MeWe folk trade thing. I know that there are, you know,
02:13:24.420The MeWe, you know, folk sale thing, you know, what's it called?
02:13:32.600The marketplace, MeWe Marketplace, where some of the AFAers have stuff for sale.
02:13:38.820And I'm sure, like, if you've got a crocheted hat, I could send them some of my honey, maybe, you know, and do a barter in that way.
02:13:46.460I think the bigger way, the easier way to avoid getting trapped into usury is to want less stuff, right?
02:14:04.860Like you don't need a new car. You don't need new furniture. I buy the, I mean, I buy most, most of the shirts that I wear, I bought used. It's funny. I bought a lot of it on Etsy and eBay and just have less stuff overall than one.
02:14:28.120um and number two first of all we all need to eat less but you know like the even more important
02:14:37.720thing there like if you're gonna if you have to eat breakfast and lunch every day and dinner
02:14:42.140um cook it yourself you know that if you want to find a way to save money you know if you're
02:14:49.120eating an eight dollar mcdonald's hamburger every day first of all you're destroying your
02:14:54.780intestines. And secondly, you're destroying your pocketbook. Make yourself a sandwich or cook some
02:15:00.440eggs and that will save you thousands and thousands of dollars over the course of a year
02:15:06.080and keep you out of debt. What are your thoughts on universal index life insurance or using your
02:15:17.040401k as a personal bank that way i am my own bank instead of giving my money to big banks
02:15:29.520that's the sort of stuff that that is certainly a valid way to approach it um
02:15:35.520i have worked with clients who were like their primary business model was they had
02:15:42.000a retirement account that they um funded their business through that you know they bought so
02:15:48.720they bought and sold houses and rehabilitated them by using their uh ira and that protected
02:15:59.200the income in a certain way all that stuff has really complicated tax implications um that i'm
02:16:06.400I'm just not, I mean, except on a case-by-case basis, it's hard to say, you know, that it's better to do it one way and not another, you know, so talk to your tax people.
02:16:19.500I hate to say that because I don't like taxes.
02:16:21.880I don't like tax accounts for the most part, but, you know, that's certainly the sort of complicated thing that I couldn't give you an answer to off the cuff.
02:16:32.800Although one thing I will say is that if you have debt, first of all, I don't think you'd borrow from your 401k.
02:16:44.860Generally, the people that I run into as clients, bankruptcy clients who have done that end up, you know, the goal, they end up in a bad posture because then you have to pay back your IRA plus you're taxed on it when you draw the money out.
02:17:00.520So the best thing to do is not get in debt in the first place.
02:17:09.500One, and if you're in the spot where you're, you know, where you're thinking about borrowing money from your IRA or 401k, think about filing bankruptcy instead.
02:17:20.880That's not something that I would ever counsel lightly.
02:17:24.000But if you've got a lot of debt, more than $20,000 is the threshold I've been using now.
02:17:33.340But if you have $20,000 in unsteered debt, it's maybe time to think about filing bankruptcy.
02:17:38.740Do not put a second mortgage on your house to pay off credit card debt.
02:17:41.980That, too, is a terrible idea for the most part.
02:17:48.340But spend less, want less, pay your house off.
02:17:52.720And like for me personally, I never, I didn't save money until I paid off my debt.
02:18:05.220Like if you are putting money into an IRA that's drawing 4% interest, but you have a credit card debt that you're paying 29% interest on.
02:18:14.580I mean, you could bump your, you can increase the money, a couple of orders of magnitude by paying off that credit card debt first and then start a savings account.
02:18:27.400I mean, that's the strongest thing you can do, especially in Florida.
02:18:31.980You know, own your house, own your car, pay off your debt.
02:18:35.200And then, because you never know what's going to happen in the market.
02:18:37.500Most IRAs, 401ks, are market indexed, and depending on who you listen to and which stock market prognosticator is running the show at any given moment, that money may or may not be there.
02:18:59.880You know, invest in things and put away money that you can afford to lose.
02:19:05.520that's that's a lot of that's just personal stuff you know that's my own personal experience
02:19:10.840buy rental properties you know once you get your debt paid off
02:19:16.340all right next up how would it be a duty to reproduce i've never read a command to be
02:19:24.740fruitful and multiply in the habitable so i've got a number of different ways to go about
02:19:31.780answering this, but Alan, what, how would you address that question?
02:19:56.140every other race knows that the point of life is to make more life. Um, like I, I look at the
02:20:07.040hickory nut tree outside my yard and it puts out a thousand hickory nuts every year. And what's it
02:20:12.920trying to do? It's trying to reproduce itself. Um, you know, every species everywhere knows that
02:20:22.060The, you know, it's the primary commands are eat, survive, reproduce.
02:20:30.160And, you know, the point of the folk soul is to make more, you know, our ancestor didn't carve their way into the wilderness so that we could decide that we would rather have an extra two weeks of vacation every year instead of having to raise children.
02:20:52.060yeah it's so and I appreciate the question and I think that it's always a
02:20:58.320valid thing to reexamine fundamentals and reinforce like why and I so I don't
02:21:07.120think that's a bad question but some of the answer is that it's self-evident it
02:21:12.820is a biological imperative of all life to reproduce and to create the next
02:21:19.000generation to pass their genetic inheritance down to future generations.
02:21:28.680In Ausitrus specifically, so much of our faith is based on the veneration of our ancestors,
02:21:37.080the remembrance, the celebration, the worship to a degree, and the, you know, honoring of those
02:21:46.520who came before us and passing down a strong family line to those who come and follow us
02:21:56.680it didn't need to be reinforced as a thou shalt because it's just it's just
02:22:03.160true and all biology knows that it's true um but it's funny that you mentioned because the
02:22:10.040have walls not silent on it it may be it's common sense but have them all 72 says it's best to have
02:22:17.800a son though he be born late and before him the father be dead because seldom are stones on the
02:22:24.520side of the road raised saved by kinsmen for kinsmen building up your kin fence your family
02:22:31.560and your descendancy to have something to pass on your legacy and to have people to remember you and
02:22:38.440celebrate you is fundamental to our ancestors worldview it's fundamental to any healthy worldview
02:22:47.320that views so this goes to another thing um also true is a life embracing religion
02:22:54.600some religions think that life in this world is suffering and horrible and illusion and bad and
02:23:01.800we should try to escape it and those kind of religions that reject the world and think that
02:23:07.880life is terrible are positioned very differently we embrace life and think that life is wonderful
02:23:16.200and think that the world and nature and the natural law is a wonderful and a good thing
02:23:23.320natural law says that as biological beings we have an imperative to
02:23:29.240to our ability to produce offspring and to
02:23:37.480hopefully produce a better next generation of people that build from the efforts that we've
02:23:44.120done and if we've been good stewards of those which of that which has been passed to us by our
02:23:50.120parents to continue that acceleration and upward trajectory trajectory of our line um
02:23:56.680So it's definitely worth asking questions, but that's a truth of existence that I think we all know.
02:24:07.820And it would have been assumed without having to, I mean, like I said, it's absolutely valid to ask the question.
02:24:18.420but the reason that the west has been asking itself that question the last 100 years is
02:24:25.860because of the frankfurt school and its efforts to unwind western civilization
02:24:34.580yeah and and there is a lot of confusion out there in the world
02:24:37.780and there's also so i have no idea the motivations of who asked the question and i'm
02:24:44.660not to be critical of that at all but we have a lot of people that may have neglected that
02:24:52.580in their life and then find resentment and try to you know come up with mental gymnastics to
02:25:00.740where it's not important just because it's not something that's a reality for someone
02:25:07.780due to their age or a medical condition or whatever else that's unfortunate
02:25:13.620but it doesn't make it not a true thing it does make their individual circumstance
02:25:18.340unfortunate and we do have sympathy for that um next is an amendment you thanked
02:25:26.260gilbert about the ac and he wants to point out that he christy and jordan went in
02:25:32.820thirdsies on it so it was not all him sorry yes thank you thank you christy and thank you jordan
02:38:12.460practice and more meaningfully spiritual, spiritually meaningful to buy from Grimfrost
02:38:22.400or from friends of ours. You know, you want something made in America, buy a
02:38:29.020by a folkish ostrich, or if you can get that, even if it costs a little more,
02:38:35.740I think it's just going to be more significant to do it that way, to buy it from, buy it from friends.
02:38:45.340Yeah, it depends on where you can get it or whatever.
02:38:47.900I know Alan said buy American, but I think one thing that's really cool is you can get some really neat stuff done out of Eastern Europe that I've seen.
02:38:56.540Right. Yeah, that's, yeah, I bought some really cool stuff from, you know, from Ukraine.
02:39:01.560some very focused uh stuff comes out of that part of uh the country too absolutely i think
02:39:07.720it's it's best if you can get it from you know someone who practices our faith um but yeah i
02:39:14.760wouldn't i wouldn't over stress that hammers are you know the meaning is there that you intend for
02:39:20.440it i wouldn't wouldn't worry myself over it too much this one um uh had custom made at some point
02:39:28.760but it's the same design as the first one i had the first hammer i got was um this same i think
02:39:36.760this off of a old swedish hammer and it i got one um from the museum store it used to be a store
02:39:46.600they had in the mall back when the mall was a thing and it was the first one i found it was a uh
02:39:52.520uh brass um version of this hammer and I still have it I actually um gave it to my daughter
02:40:02.000for her baby naming um for Asavatny and it yeah it's neat that one I sure was probably made in
02:40:11.780China or some other place um but yeah people get them from all over there's a lot of really cool
02:40:18.260that sell you know just about any variety you can think of producer Nick
02:40:26.060has a really cool hammer that's you know very different it's not a historical
02:40:30.320design hammer that's really cool there's a lot of neat stuff people do so I'm
02:40:38.240assuming you're talking about the one with the big green stone yes yeah that
02:41:06.260Alan, what are your current feelings on the Trump administration?
02:41:09.560what policies do you think need to be implemented to benefit white people?
02:41:20.840Well, to use a phrase that was coined by one of the websites that I follow pretty closely,
02:41:31.640CounterCurrents, I'm currently suffering from Trump Disappointment Syndrome.
02:41:36.160I would like to see mass deportations stepped up that would, you know, that would certainly benefit Native Americans.
02:41:55.160Americans, we white Native Americans, you know, that would be a starting point.
02:42:05.480That being said, I think it's important to recognize that despite his recent error in starting an unprovoked war, which I think is a horrible idea in every connotation of that, and that's a personal opinion, not the opinion of the AFA.
02:42:25.160But, you know, when you look at the impact that his judges are having in the way that jurisprudence is being decided, that will have an impact for years and years and years.
02:42:51.520It's just the Supreme Court, especially if the Supreme Court decides the right way on the birthright citizenship case that was recently argued.
02:43:03.900I mean, we could that would be a tremendous pivot that was brought about by Trump's election.
02:43:12.400And those are the sorts of things that you can't discount that that his election.
02:43:21.520For all the disappointment that some of his decisions have brought, have been pivotal and may be pivotal in, you know, in our lifetimes and shape the long term health or dearth of this country.
02:43:38.400And another thing to note, along that same line, if you're not aware, Trump's Department of Justice recently indicted the Southern Poverty Leadership Council.
02:43:52.340And if you don't think that's big news, it is.
02:43:57.960The SPLC has been the enemy of conservative peoples everywhere for a long, long time, and they are now under indictment for fraud and money laundering and all sorts of federal crimes.
02:44:20.000And that would have never happened under any kind of, you know, certainly, you know, certainly not even under a, you know, a rhino Department of Justice.
02:44:32.920That's a that is a big, big deal. And so, you know, that would have only happened because Trump has unleashed the hounds on on some of our enemies.
02:44:43.620And, you know, for that, that's big news and important stuff that, despite the recent misadventure, will lead this country back in the right direction.
02:45:00.080Yeah, I think, and again, this is, you know, Alan and my personal thoughts on it.
02:45:08.120want we don't want to duck the question but um and you did say current but i think it's worth
02:45:18.600just saying i think there were a lot of steps in the right direction in a lot of ways there
02:45:22.680are certainly a lot of promises in the right direction and i'm currently extremely disappointed
02:45:30.920that those promises have not been fulfilled in a lot of ways what i will say is there's a number
02:45:37.560of people um that were unjustly imprisoned that he is uh freed and pardoned which is
02:45:45.880a good thing and a good step i think that
02:45:52.760um acknowledgement and this has been going on for a while but acknowledgement of
02:45:58.520our brethren that are suffering in south africa and wanting to help facilitate them have a better
02:46:05.960life is a very positive thing for our people i think um doing the deportations and fixing
02:46:17.800the immigration problem that has changed the complexion of our country to an unrecognizable
02:46:23.480way fixing that which was kind of started and then stopped would help us a lot
02:46:29.720um biggest thing that is just it is disappointing to see him continually surround himself with the
02:46:39.400wrong people and get guided in bad directions a lot and the big elephant in the room is the israel
02:46:47.400thing to have a foreign country that is a jewish ethno state calling the shots of our foreign
02:46:54.520policy and getting us involved in wars is a terrible thing and anything that he could do
02:47:02.680or policy he could put in effect to where we are independent of having to have israel dictate
02:47:10.920any of our policy would be a positive step for our folk and i think for the world and everybody
02:47:20.200involved it would be very nice if we function as an autonomous country without that lobby dictating
02:47:27.240what we do absolutely and you know for for all the missteps that he's taken you know you're not
02:47:34.680going to go from a half black muslim to kaiser wilhelm in one step i mean the ship of state
02:47:43.080turns but slowly and you know so we you know you got to take what friendship you can get
02:47:50.200and that's the thing Kamala wouldn't have been any better and it's at the end of the day I know
02:48:02.040that's not a strong endorsement but it is worth thinking you know I want the most good things for
02:48:09.320our folk that can be and I also don't you know it's important to not let perfect be the enemy
02:48:18.600of good in terms of our expectations to make the most of opportunities that present themselves no
02:48:24.760matter who's in office and to position ourselves best to write out when people in office are not
02:48:31.800the ones we want or are the ones that make a bad choices for us whatever we can do
02:48:38.600while we're able to put ourselves in a good position to write out the things we don't like
02:48:45.080is also a you know something to always keep in mind instead of obsessing over you know neither
02:48:51.240of these people are our guy or said they're our guy but some of the candidates trump being one of
02:48:57.640them has said some things that would be really positive and beneficial for uh white people in
02:49:03.000america if they were you know if the promises were lived up to and hopefully and we don't endorse
02:49:09.400or advocate any particular political party or candidate no this is and this is an important
02:49:16.280note like we don't need to be aloof from anything political but we do have to you know as the austro
02:49:21.160folk assembly we're not trying to you know as alan said we're not trying to endorse a candidate or
02:49:28.200endorse a piece of legislation but it is appropriate to advocate for things that are good for our
02:49:36.040our folk and good for our people and you know those are some policies and some things that
02:49:41.480i think would be very good for our people yeah um next uh matt and alan for those of us leading
02:49:54.760sumble in our homes how much weight should we place on things like dress and atmosphere
02:50:00.760versus intention and frith of the gathering what are your thoughts there al versus uh um
02:50:08.040versus what now was the last of the question the frith of the gathering yeah should you know dress
02:50:14.760an atmosphere versus people they're being comfortable and facilitating them having a
02:50:19.560fruitful interaction um i think i think when you lead symbol below um at your home it's going to
02:50:32.840be somewhat less formal um i i absolutely agree that um that uh that you don't want to
02:50:41.640you know put people off by being too formal um at the same time i think it is absolutely
02:50:47.800appropriate that as the person leading ceremony, that you should be dressed in a way that's
02:50:56.560at least, and I hate to use this term because it, you know, because it sounds cheesy in
02:51:01.620this context, but you want to be like at least business casual, right?
02:51:06.500You want to be collared shirts, nice pants that would be appropriate in a, you know,
02:51:14.200in a, in a business setting in the exact same way, um,
02:51:19.520that you would not go to a job interview. Um, you wouldn't, you know,
02:51:24.240with a, although obviously that's outside the home, you know, and, but,
02:51:29.700you know, you don't certainly in your own home,
02:51:31.600you don't turn people away because they're not, you know,
02:51:35.300because they're wearing a journey t-shirt or something like that.
02:51:40.480But I think as our practice evolves and as your personal practice becomes more formal, you know, you want your ritual to be set apart from, you know, from the rest of the mundane.
02:52:08.400So, and if that means you dress a little nicer than you usually do, then that's absolutely appropriate. But at the same time, you know, other people do themselves. And if they're, and if they show up, I mean, you don't, you don't want to, you know, you just don't say anything.
02:52:29.860But hopefully after some several ceremonies, they will start to get the idea and treat it with a little more respect and with a little more dignity and will come dressed more appropriately.
02:52:45.720You know, I think that it's interesting because the two two major rituals of our practice are bloat and stumble and bloat is very much about approaching the gods.
02:52:59.860That's something that you're approaching that audience necessitates a certain level of decorum and presentation that I think sumble doesn't necessarily depends.
02:53:15.980one of the things we talk about it you know at the hoff when we do assemble it's a high
02:53:20.860assemble and it's a elevated occurrence but there's a lot of occasions that you can do some
02:53:28.220that you know dressing casually isn't inappropriate some a lot of the time is
02:53:35.660about building connections with the people that you're with there so i think you know i would
02:53:40.540never want it to be done see um in a silly way or in a way that wasn't serious but you know there
02:53:50.460have been people who are staying up all night to see the you know the the rising sun on a solstice
02:53:57.500or to see you know like uh yeah there have been people in situations where they're in their
02:54:02.940pajamas doing assemble because everybody spent the night on the floor doing whatever i don't
02:54:08.540think that's entirely inappropriate there's times where you'll do a stumble when you're out camping
02:54:13.020or you know on a hunting trip or where you find yourself and i think that that uh the
02:54:19.980the details on that matter i think it's always something that should be done seriously and
02:54:24.060sincerely but on a stumble in your home those things are much more about the the atmosphere
02:54:30.940of the event and i do think the um the intention and the frith is more important i'd say than
02:54:38.860in the dress and in the fanciing up the atmosphere because again it's building
02:54:44.060bonds between the people that are there more so than it being focused on approaching the gods
02:54:51.980um but again i i think that the intentions matter in both and i think that that's not
02:54:59.740something i'd spend a lot of time stressing i would much more want it to be an atmosphere where
02:55:04.540people feel comfortable opening and sharing deeply and treating it seriously um my two cents
02:55:14.860uh next alan have you ever went through the nine doors of midgard the way dr flower is prescribed
02:55:21.340i have not um i've read part of the book i think it's a valid exercise i just never connected
02:55:32.460enough with the room guild um to go through it i know you can self-initiate through the work of
02:55:39.100that book um i have other work that i do that's kind of similar i probably should get my volume
02:55:47.620out and go through that process as well i mean i've got several other
02:55:58.740elevation techniques that i use and you know i think they enhance each other