Asatru Folk Assembly - 4⧸24⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 94 - Grímnismál, Part 1

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00:03:00.000 good evening everyone um as you can see

00:03:26.480 Al-Ziragothi is running a little bit behind, but that's all right. We're going to, you know, be able to cover the distance until he arrives.

00:03:39.100 So welcome to another Victory Never Sleeps. This time we're going over Grimnismoul.

00:03:45.500 um again it's the second of the encyclopediaic style poems um except this one is a little bit

00:03:55.600 more interesting it has a different take on it than the other two um but still you know uh i

00:04:03.620 think it's probably the best of the three in my opinion um that of course being fa through this

00:04:11.920 the one that we just covered and alvis mal which is one that we're going to cover later um so you

00:04:19.440 know remember if you're on here and you're watching this on youtube entropy vk um or any of the other

00:04:28.480 multiple sites that we are on make sure you hit that like button so that that way it can you know

00:04:35.040 know be shown in more people's um yeah twitch odyssey oh there's so many of them um twitter

00:04:43.720 so make sure that you uh you get it out there you spread it and um make sure that you're subscribed

00:04:49.200 and and um you know tuning in these the the undertaking that we're doing right now is really

00:04:59.080 important because a lot of this lends to so much lore that you would take in body of

00:05:05.200 Ausatru itself when it comes to cosmology, things like that.

00:05:09.660 There's things that are, you know, I think as of late have been come up to debate.

00:05:14.560 And I think that the lore really does clarify a lot of the debate that it seems to be some

00:05:22.780 folks have.

00:05:23.280 It does create its own debates, but it also seems to clear some of it as well.

00:05:27.340 So, interesting grimness, Mal.

00:05:35.900 Oh, I was here, Goli.

00:05:38.220 I don't have an introduction like you do.

00:05:43.020 All right, guys.

00:05:44.160 Sorry I was a couple minutes late today getting on here.

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00:05:57.180 yeah today we are starting our study of the grimness mouth um

00:06:07.980 not sure what stuff that maybe uh spawn's already talked to y'all about

00:06:13.740 or stuff to mention since last time next big event we have coming up is going to be midsummer

00:06:22.140 at odenshoff that is our longest standing national event i think the concept of national event in and

00:06:31.500 of itself is a little bit outdated there was a time where there was you know just a couple and

00:06:38.060 we didn't have hoffs so that's kind of what we did was these you know national events versus local

00:06:44.780 things so big now that uh each hoff has their own like signature hoff event each year and that's

00:06:53.260 what this is for odin's off um midsummer the afa has been doing a you know big national event level

00:07:04.860 midsummer since i believe 2009

00:07:14.220 sounds right 2009 i think prior to that they were doing some winter nights

00:07:18.700 in the mother lode and those have always been out in northern california so they were doing

00:07:23.820 that there the first afa event i ever went to was midsummer 2010 and that was in uh

00:07:31.980 Alta, California at Camp Norga, a Sons of Norway camp.

00:07:39.240 So we're carrying on that tradition.

00:07:41.500 It's typically the biggest event of the year.

00:07:45.760 It's the event we've had the biggest attendance at,

00:07:48.420 but we got real close with a Winter Nights in Ohio two years ago.

00:07:55.440 So anyways, come on out to Odenshof in beautiful Brownsville, California,

00:08:00.420 June 22nd through 24th. We've got a lot of AFA leadership coming out. It's going to be a really

00:08:08.220 big event. It's going to be special. Folks at Odenshoff have put so much into it this year.

00:08:15.400 We have had a fantastic team of guys putting work in, beautifying things,

00:08:21.600 just making it special. So if you've seen it before in previous years, you're in for a treat

00:08:28.200 this time it's just uh it's been taken to a whole different level with uh

00:08:35.720 just beautification and making it nicer and we would love to show it off to everybody so if

00:08:41.160 you're interested in that please reach out to your local folk builder they can get you dialed in um

00:08:49.160 i'm sure producer nick can throw up a link for registration any of those things we're excited

00:08:55.560 to see you out there and it's coming up you know i think sooner than some of us anticipate

00:09:03.640 other than that if you guys are interested in donating

00:09:08.840 instructions for that are in the description of the video as always you can donate on the

00:09:15.320 website if you'd like it's how we're able to get stuff done and make things happen

00:09:22.200 so we really appreciate y'all's generosity and uh once again we start this show with

00:09:31.480 the amazing generosity of ronald blake thank you so much 25 for vns 30 for the academy and

00:09:41.640 an extra five five dollars for the general fund that's awesome it means a lot we appreciate it

00:09:48.920 thank you so much for your generosity and your consistent generosity that's that's fantastic

00:09:58.680 ah nick if you haven't yet if you could give people the link for what we're going to use tonight

00:10:07.880 anybody following at home we're going to be using the

00:10:11.240 translation but you are welcome to use whatever you like and kind of compare and see

00:10:19.400 what's similar see what's different and uh especially with some of swan's analysis on

00:10:25.560 the original text maybe get an understanding of why those things might read a little bit different

00:10:32.440 oh i kind of wanted to piggyback a little bit on what you were talking about with midsummer

00:10:36.920 i wanted folks to reach out to the folk builders and try to get uh family friends anybody

00:10:41.960 out there that you want to May Day at your local Hoffs and any kindred folk perhaps that are

00:10:50.200 holding these events. But the Hoffs guaranteed May Day. We are, if anybody's out there following

00:10:56.600 their iron marks, we just passed through Merry Moon. And that means May Day is on the way. And

00:11:04.700 mayday is one of those holy tides that really um seems true uh about community the ability for

00:11:13.440 uh large amounts of folks to gather around the uh maypole and um share that frith and that might

00:11:20.040 um so definitely make sure you guys are looking uh keeping an eye out for when those events are

00:11:26.620 going on because these are the ones that's the one not to miss we just went through summer moon

00:11:31.220 and that of course brings hexanocht um the knight of the witches and uh now we're moving to mayday

00:11:38.420 um this is definitely i say i one of the local community flex of of you know getting together

00:11:46.580 with multiple multiple people a lot of times uh people on their on their own can't quite

00:11:52.740 do a mayday in the traditional sense of the maypole so definitely look to reach out and try to

00:11:58.420 get get together make it there this is this is one of the the big ones for the summer tiding

00:12:05.220 and it's fun so anybody out there that just wants to sit around and make a mean face and

00:12:09.780 be grumpy and i don't dance get out there do the maypole dance have fun with the kids weaving in

00:12:16.020 and out of it it's it's some of the most just fun moments that uh that i've had

00:12:22.740 at hoss and celebrating our holy tides it's just it's just neat it's fun you're doing

00:12:29.940 yourself a disservice if you stand over in the corner all grumpy with your arms folded um

00:12:37.220 we got some great pictures of two it's a fun time it's fun time so participate participate

00:12:44.340 enthusiastically um it's kind of it's a neat thing every year uh and i encourage all that

00:12:51.140 to get in on that um also we're kind of figuring it out as far as uh

00:13:03.540 scheduling some of these programs fun and i never know exactly how

00:13:10.740 where these journeys are gonna take us so you know thought it'd be you know one and done or

00:13:16.500 real quick with have them all it was seven episodes they're like ah man it's gonna be a

00:13:21.780 long one again for you know that's through this now and that was just one and done so

00:13:29.140 yeah we'll go wherever it takes us um but it does affect our our scheduling out a little ways so i

00:13:35.060 apologize for that if you guys are marking your calendars for the shows you want to hit or you

00:13:39.940 know guess that you you don't need that that you want to miss or whatever you guys are doing based

00:13:44.980 on shows i used to really be big on plotting them out a month ahead of time and it makes

00:13:50.340 it a little bit difficult when we're not sure how long these are going to go

00:13:54.260 now it's kind of shooting from the hip you know that's how we do um

00:14:09.460 uh i will not get into it now because we're going to start the thing but in one of my

00:14:13.780 just ludicrous bouncing happenings there was a an ebony gentleman in some kind of

00:14:22.100 sports ball jersey from across the street a completely urban gentleman all of a sudden

00:14:27.860 pulled out of 357 started trying to slap the hammer and shoot from the hip at a rival

00:14:34.420 across the road who happened to have a a bowie knife so it was whoa it was a markedly non-urban

00:14:46.420 encounter for some particularly urban gentlemen so only in alaska it's an interesting place a fun

00:14:55.000 place though it's the it's the it's the last or the place for the guy who got shot but he got

00:15:03.940 shot three times two center mass we pulled him in the bar and we're waiting it out and i thought it

00:15:09.780 was the last time i was going to see that guy he was out of the hospital the next day well

00:15:14.900 first off the fact that he survived and the other guy got while he was fanning the hammer

00:15:21.300 he got two in center masses from the hip across the road

00:15:25.620 two holy moly two center mass and like one in the arm and dude is out the next day

00:15:34.880 so anyways i digress that has nothing to do with the grimness mile

00:15:40.780 um but with uh that bit of i don't know trivia and then levity icebreaker

00:15:49.640 will you uh prep folks for things we need to know about the text um perhaps about what uh

00:16:01.640 grimness maul means just anything folks need to know before we dive in yeah absolutely i was going

00:16:08.200 i was i was getting into that uh because i just kind of jumped right in but again no levity kind

00:16:13.640 of a stick in the mud so you bringing that in kind of breaks the ice gets everybody kind of relaxed

00:16:19.640 um seeing like jerome lays the jerome ranger like you know well done

00:16:27.960 coming you don't bring the levity no i'm just a follow-up act um no so one of the big things to

00:16:36.440 consider about grimness mal um first off the the name itself is referring to the title one of the

00:16:44.520 many titles of Lord Bothan. Grimnir, the masked one, the dark one, or the one that is

00:16:55.080 hidden or obfuscated. It can mean hooded, it can be masked, it could be just of a dire disposition

00:17:05.320 in the face, and so it kind of like a death face. And Maul, of course, means the speech or the

00:17:11.880 saying of and um i was kind of going in this is the second of the encyclopedia style ones

00:17:18.840 this is my favorite one but there's some interesting things to mark and bellows brings

00:17:23.480 it up he says that um even though this was probably written down 12th maybe even 13th

00:17:31.000 century because there are old norse words that are not in older texts so there had been some

00:17:37.160 evolutions of words and writing that was going on because again utilizing um kind of latin alphabet

00:17:45.720 old norse and getting the proper ways to write things down and just you know uh deciding on them

00:17:53.320 was one of the big developments that was going on through those 200 years and so it seems to

00:17:58.760 be that grunismal is definitely a later addition and um it's worth noting that even at this time

00:18:06.360 or perhaps at least 50 to 100 years before it was written down the audience did still know a great

00:18:15.000 vast amount of knowledge that was being laid down because this time it's not given out so cleanly

00:18:21.400 like in fast rudeness mal or in alvis mal and um i would honestly say that this is probably a later

00:18:29.080 than both of those but um and i i think that's very interesting that means that even after the

00:18:36.520 conversion of iceland in the year 1000 um the audience still knew and they did not have to be

00:18:42.760 prepped or they didn't have to be there was no real heavy context it was an understanding and

00:18:49.320 they in in honesty that the poem jams a lot of lore together without any sense of separation

00:18:58.040 or organization because i think that our ancestors knew that already um and so that's where a lot of

00:19:06.040 confusion comes in it is uh hyper condensed it's it's um you know it's it's a whirlwind it goes

00:19:13.960 one right after the other but uh tonight or maybe uh hopefully if we get it done in one shot uh

00:19:21.400 we'll we'll discuss it tonight about organizing some of that stuff and this i i would say the

00:19:27.000 major function of the grimness mall that you'll most likely find is two things one this is lord

00:19:32.920 volvin telling gerald his his the the the failure that he he banked on um uh basically him telling

00:19:45.000 him over and over and over again there's only certain amount of lore that everyone knows and i

00:19:50.920 know and then he goes into more and more detail and there's only certain amount of lore that

00:19:55.560 that people know and i know this and i know this and so suddenly it's basically the entire poem

00:20:02.440 is an evolution of lord votin revealing who he truly is um the other thing that's really

00:20:10.360 important to know is that it gives a great cosmological map of where the gods live and

00:20:17.480 the uh even down to the rivers and again a lot of people um to my knowledge a lot of

00:20:23.000 of modern day Ausatruer who have written books and things like that haven't really kind of

00:20:28.360 delved into any of this. They're kind of at a loss. And I'm hoping tonight I can set or get a

00:20:36.420 chance to shine some light and give some clarity on where, you know, I stand and I believe that

00:20:45.040 where our ancestors stood based off of observation and giving some clarity and understanding is how

00:20:50.620 the cosmos and the cosmology was laid out and why a lot of the folks nowadays are kind of going in

00:20:56.680 the wrong direction about the way that they're doing stuff. So, and that I think the listeners

00:21:03.740 tonight should take heed and bear in mind that the cosmological view in which we construct with

00:21:13.480 the Ancestry Folk Assembly, with our spiritual outlook and framework, is that we're following

00:21:18.520 the lore with key component parts that are very very very crucial and i think a lot of people

00:21:24.280 gloss over them in translation they know that a lot of people aren't going to to look into the

00:21:29.480 translations and so they can kind of fill the gaps where they want and uh i think that's a little

00:21:35.480 you know dishonest but we're gonna we're gonna battle that um one of the other things about this

00:21:41.720 story is um it has a correct introduction and a outro so this is unique it it this really lends

00:21:53.720 i think to other story forms and there's a reason for it um and i think that the adas do this quite

00:21:59.960 often and nobody ever talks about it so a perfect example would be um uh in this case there is

00:22:07.800 mention of the the the goths um and uh in the story and i just wanted to bring kind of this to

00:22:15.240 light so in the beginning there is this again a conversation between lord voden and lady frigga

00:22:23.960 and this is very reminiscent of a mainland story between lord or it's it's lord olden and lord and

00:22:32.840 Lady Frigga, but it's under the Lombardi name, Lord Godong and Lady Friggo. And it has a very similar

00:22:44.680 intro. So you can kind of see where these established storytelling frameworks were done

00:22:51.880 perhaps in Central and or Western Europe or even Eastern Europe. And they eventually survived and

00:22:58.360 rolled back into the prose eddas by the 12th century we see this with howard barther and like

00:23:03.960 the slavic stories and in this case this story in particular we see it with uh kind of the framework

00:23:11.560 of the central and migrational period stories where it has a very long kind of telling of a

00:23:19.160 relationship between lord odin and uh lady frega and their their machinations on earth uh between

00:23:28.200 you know two children and this again seems kind of odd out of place from a lot of the old norse

00:23:35.480 um stories and how they go but it's not out of place in central europe migrational era

00:23:41.880 storytelling so that you can kind of see there's remnants we know this already with um like the

00:23:49.160 volsunga saga and siegfried the dragon slayer and and connections with atli and attila and um

00:23:56.600 other things like that so we kind of get a glimpse but i think it's present elsewhere in the other

00:24:01.960 adas and the other uh poetic adas um that uh uh happen quite often and i i'm starting to kind of

00:24:10.840 see them as we kind of balance them out and look at uh kind of parallel with other traditions some

00:24:17.400 of them not even teutonic arian but slavic arian so that was another note i wanted to bring up it's

00:24:23.720 just a very interesting story and you'll notice it right out of the gate when we go into

00:24:28.680 um how the the stanzas are not written in poetics at all but tell a story and then we move into the

00:24:35.000 prose so um i want to acknowledge monk and his 50 donation for vns thank you monk we appreciate

00:24:45.240 that a lot it means a lot thank you see that's another reason why it's really good because i

00:24:52.440 can't follow a lot of these the folks that are giving so generously i can't quite see them until

00:24:58.840 way later and you're like right on top of them so you can acknowledge them i can't see that so i

00:25:04.360 didn't even uh get a chance like i didn't even see ronald blake's um uh generous donations come in

00:25:11.720 until you mentioned them so i'm glad you're here kind of keeping that up otherwise i would just

00:25:19.960 kind of prattle on um okay so moving into the first part you'll notice there are two very large

00:25:32.040 paragraphs and this is setting the stage and again i make the i make the point that

00:25:37.560 this is copying a very similar style from the lombardy's and the migration period stories in

00:25:43.800 which they speak of the gods as catalysts for events to happen and they set the stage almost

00:25:53.240 like a play um uh you know and and very unique in this way and i i don't think all of them do this

00:26:02.040 and this one in particular has all of that kind of um just the sinew of it is very very similar

00:26:09.080 so uh you know first we speak of um the sons of hrothum now it's really i looked up everywhere

00:26:21.900 i could to see if there was perhaps of a connection between a historical king uh and

00:26:30.240 and King Rotham and I have not found anything. So it's a general, um, consensus among scholars

00:26:40.200 and people that, you know, have studied the lore in, in it is that he is a mythical King

00:26:46.480 that is, uh, there to set the story. I also think that perhaps he may be, uh, a variation or, uh,

00:26:58.300 an evolution of an ancient king that we, you know, the name may have changed so drastically that we

00:27:06.840 can't quite pinpoint. I've been looking still just to, just again, like with Atlee and the

00:27:15.160 most likeliness that, that Atlee in Sigurd's story is Attila. I've often looked to see if

00:27:22.880 there was any um laterals and i can't quite find it so i'm you know it's just one of those mysteries

00:27:29.000 but just to let people know the you know king rothung is a mythical king as

00:27:34.920 stating in the story and uh we'll begin with of the sons of king rothung um and i don't know

00:27:46.460 this is pretty big i don't know if um nick can really even place the entirety of this

00:27:51.060 And for those who are listening and not able to see the website, you know, just bear with me and I'll read it at least one section in its entirety.

00:28:01.580 King Hrothung had two sons. One was called Agnar and the other was Geroth. Agnar was ten winters

00:28:13.680 old and Geroth ate. Once they both rode in a boat with their fishing gear to catch little fish

00:28:20.700 and the wind drove them out into the sea. In the darkness of the night they were wrecked on the

00:28:27.680 shore and going up they found a poor peasant with whom they stayed through the winter the housewife

00:28:34.880 took agnor and the peasant cared for gerald and taught him wisdom in the spring the peasant gave

00:28:44.540 him a boat and when the couple led them to the shore the peasant grabbed or spoke secretly to

00:28:51.080 Geroth. They had a fair wind and came to their father's landing place. Geroth was forward in the

00:29:01.080 boat. He leaped up on land, but pushed out the boat and said to Agnar, go thou now where evil

00:29:09.400 may have thee. The boat drifted out to sea. Geroth, however, went up to the house and was well

00:29:15.760 received, but his father was dead. Then Geroth was made king and became a renowned man.

00:29:24.320 A couple of things in there that's worth kind of clarifying. The peasant takes Geroth secretly to

00:29:34.180 the side and says to him, when you get close to shore, jump out, push the boat, and you will become

00:29:43.540 king and leave him, leave your brother adrift, Agnar, the, the older brother who is, of course,

00:29:52.100 due to take on the throne. Um, a couple of things about this is, um, and you know, I can, I can

00:29:59.800 always imagine some, perhaps like, uh, you know, if there was a religious debate and somebody,

00:30:06.300 you know, had a fair amount of knowledge and was like, you know, how can you worship or follow

00:30:11.400 a god who you know does these treacherous things and i think it's worth noting that

00:30:16.520 um lord vodhan in all of our stories is never always it never is just seen as a

00:30:23.240 um you know kind of a benevolent uh you know being but it's worth mentioning that in this poem

00:30:34.240 in specifics with the story like the story amongst the lombards lord odin is a catalyst

00:30:41.120 for the events to happen and ultimately it is a lesson for lord volvin as much as it is for

00:30:49.360 gerald and i think that that's kind of the overall message that that's to be learned from this

00:30:56.800 because this ends up in the story lord olvin ends up realizing that you know he may have made a

00:31:04.720 mistake um so if if it's not understood as of yet though it's worth mentioning the peasant

00:31:14.160 is lord odin and the um the housemaid the uh uh sorry i'm trying to look for the house wife

00:31:25.680 uh is lady frigga and they come to earth and take these these two boys in um and teach them

00:31:33.600 separately and then lord odin gives gero the you know cunning and wherewithal to attain the throne

00:31:42.240 right before they arrive and uh so that that's also another caveat that's not quite explained

00:31:49.520 in the first um paragraph so whilst fawn sips his beverage um another thing of note and i wasn't

00:32:02.640 sure i just got the message or i would have announced it a little bit earlier um we have some

00:32:10.400 finally in the afa store we have some merch we're working on different solutions to get you know

00:32:17.040 this isn't necessarily how it's going to function or going to look going forward some of these

00:32:22.480 things might be limited time only products so get them while the getting is good uh but we do have

00:32:29.760 a bunch of new merch dropped in the online store at runestone.org so go check that out if you want

00:32:37.520 to get cool products i think the first things that are dropping are specifically victory never sleeps

00:32:43.280 stuff so if you're interested in some victory never sleeps product go there get you some

00:32:52.720 we'll get we'll get some funds out of it that we can hopefully do things to help our folk to

00:33:00.400 glorify the gods and to move out the truth forward um thank you guys and uh swan if you'd like to

00:33:07.600 continue with our story yeah i was just looking at something quite interesting with um the

00:33:14.800 translation here uh in reference to um the usage because we if if you've been following along with

00:33:22.800 vns any of the people watching you know we were talking about ill and ill and the word evil and

00:33:30.080 the word um of different deeds and you know he says go thou now where evil may have thee and um

00:33:36.000 um, that's not quite the word that's used. Um, and so again, I, you know, there are many

00:33:43.120 different words, you know, for evil or, uh, treachery or, or what have you. Um, and I was

00:33:51.560 just looking that up real, real quick. Um, and I, I just wanted to see if I could land it real

00:34:00.560 quick before, um, no, I'm going to have to look a little deeper. Okay. So, um, I will put a note

00:34:11.140 in that though. So, um, then it switches over. So the, the next paragraph is now Lord Ovin,

00:34:22.000 Lady Frick are in the heavenly abode. The, the, the place residing of the gods, the land in which

00:34:29.920 the gods live. Certainly not just a castle in the sky, if you will, as a lot of folks think

00:34:37.500 Ausgarder is, but instead it is their land, their kingdom, and now they have moved into observing

00:34:46.960 and kind of gloating, if you will, about the outcomes of things as they go. And this, of

00:34:59.740 course, creates another situation in which Lady Frigg will take her own path in order

00:35:09.640 to set things aright, if you will. And again, this is very reminiscent of the Lombardic

00:35:16.880 story in which Lady Frigg also does the same thing, interceding in order to set things

00:35:25.580 kind of a right because of lord odin's ambitious nature and his nature for war conquest or um

00:35:37.100 again just or cunning and the desire to gain power um and this is about temperament in that

00:35:44.460 not saying that that's bad but that it does have to have its temper kind of um brought to uh into

00:35:51.340 it as well so second paragraph odin and frig sat in hlidskjalf and looked over all the worlds

00:36:03.260 odin said seest thou agnar thy fosterling how he begets children with a giantess in a cave

00:36:12.460 now it's worth noticing here at this point basically

00:36:16.060 you could take this in two ways one it is clearly the way it is stated um in a mythos sense he is

00:36:27.000 now completely lost from the inner guard of the world um if it was to be said in a more uh you

00:36:39.260 know literal sense is that now he is an outlaw he is someone who is scraping by living in the caves

00:36:46.020 you know uh basically suckling upon the teats of chaos because he no longer has any foundational

00:36:53.140 support within the inner guard and it's just a treacherous thing to be that um you know that

00:37:00.040 scraping mangy wolf that that has no roof over his head who has no uh you know uh woman to hold

00:37:08.120 hands with and and meat to eat and and children to look upon you you're just a he's just a wretch

00:37:13.960 at this point he's a he's that that uh that wolf that's lurking in the woods that you can see his

00:37:21.240 hip bones and his his ribs uh if you will and so um that's kind of what that that insult really

00:37:29.880 uh is laying is that he begets children with with giantess in with a giantess in a cave

00:37:35.160 and and um the giantess too is is worth noticing that the jotun moniker is at this point very very

00:37:43.480 broad and it it is clearly leveling towards like a thurser a kind of a chaotic descendant of emir

00:37:52.920 and bergelmer which we did go over in uh um last vienna so he's pointing it out and he's he's

00:38:02.040 really sticking the the finger in the wound if you will um and he says you know you see this

00:38:11.560 he's living with a giantess and he gets children with her in a cave but get off my fosterling

00:38:18.280 he's a king and he rules over his land and frick says lady frigg says he is so miserly

00:38:27.640 that he tortures his guests if they think that too many of them come in so he's greedy and he's

00:38:35.800 um you know not not a giving king he does not give rings he does not give um you know accolades

00:38:43.120 he is a you know torturous and misly man so what what good is there to claim victory

00:38:50.400 if what you've produced is lackluster um so uh odin replied that this was the greatest of lies

00:39:00.840 and that they made a wager about this matter so in essence the the wager is is that lord odin will

00:39:09.760 go as a guest to Gerov's hall, proving Lady Frigg wrong, that Gerov is not what they say

00:39:20.640 he is, but Lady Frigg is going to make sure that this accusation definitely sticks, with

00:39:31.960 just a little bit of a nudge, but not much.

00:39:36.140 It is then that Frigg sends one of the Ausenjur,

00:39:42.320 her emissary, personal emissary,

00:39:47.000 one of the maidens of Fensalr,

00:39:49.440 the goddess of the fruitful home,

00:39:51.380 and her name is Fulla, one of the Ausenjur,

00:39:56.520 and she sends Fulla to Geralt.

00:39:59.720 um and again if you're looking at this from a story of plot hooks and conveniences and

00:40:05.160 setting things up it is still worth noting without any real context our ancestors understood exactly

00:40:13.800 who fulla one of the asenior and the right hand maiden or the maid of honor of frig is involved

00:40:24.040 And she goes to Geroth, and she bades the king to beware, lest a magician who has come thither to his land should bewitch you, and told this sign concerning him.

00:40:40.240 She says that no dog was so fierce that it would leap at him.

00:40:46.940 Now it was a great slander that King Geroth was not hospitable,

00:40:51.800 but nevertheless he had them take the man whom the dogs would not attack.

00:40:57.120 He wore a dark blue mantle and called himself Grimnur,

00:41:02.140 but said no more about himself, though he was questioned.

00:41:06.100 The king had him tortured to make him speak,

00:41:10.240 and set him between two fires, and he sat there eight nights. King Geroth had a son, a son 10

00:41:19.300 winters old, and his name was Agnar. So here, Lord Geroth, and again, this is a reiteration of the

00:41:28.480 lesson of this situation, is that Geroth's brother, who was 10 years old when they separated,

00:41:37.460 named Agnar, is out in the wilds, never to be seen again, and is a wretch. And that very same

00:41:45.580 aged, but the son of Gerod, but named the same, will be the savior, if you will, or at least

00:41:54.780 the giver of goodness to Lord Odin. And this, again, sets the moral point and really drives it

00:42:03.580 home. King Geroth has a son 10 winters old called Agnar after his father's brother. Agnar went to

00:42:14.760 Grimnir and gave him a full horn to drink from and said that the king did ill in letting him be

00:42:21.020 tormented without cause. Grimnir drank from the horn deeply and the fire had come so near that

00:42:28.080 the mantle burned on Grimnir's back, and thus he spoke. So this is the intro, and it's kind of

00:42:35.060 jammed together, but in essence, when Lady Frigga levels the treachery on the, what is the correct

00:42:49.480 word, I guess the, the prodigy, uh, or the, the, the, the fashioned king that Lord Olden has taken

00:42:57.360 under his mantle, um, as being a miserly and wicked man, Lord Olden says, no, I'll prove you

00:43:03.520 wrong. And in a round, in the roundabout, Lady Frigason's fuller and says that there is a very

00:43:11.540 powerful magician that's coming to your court and no hound will bark at him. No hound will leap at

00:43:18.720 him they know with great fear and this of course is because lord odin is lord odin he's he's not

00:43:25.280 just a man he's not just a wizard or a or a wise man or a war locker um and it's important she's

00:43:33.200 not wrong no she's not wrong at all she's not lying she's just using his power to prove the

00:43:40.240 So another thing to kind of, it goes without saying, but we would be remiss not to highlight

00:43:52.840 it and I don't know, extol it. Hospitality. So sometimes ancestral

00:44:10.180 hospitality if it's some peasant's hovel doesn't translate well because in the day and age in this

00:44:18.900 urban place that we live it would often be very odd and probably ill-advisable for you to let

00:44:26.340 some vagrant just into your house with you and your family in your private home but a king's

00:44:32.340 hall is different yes it's a private residence but it's an administrative headquarters it's a

00:44:39.380 very much a public building a king has warriors and retainers it's not like you're letting some

00:44:46.020 homeless dude you know sleep on the couch while your kids are in the next room it's a much more

00:44:52.980 of a public situation so hospitality is not just kind of nice it's absolutely expected from a king

00:45:03.620 or a lord or any it's expected of anyone but the expectation is much higher when you're a public

00:45:10.420 person who is well off um and the other thing is the the glory of wealth yes great kings need to be

00:45:26.660 have nice stuff and live lavishly but they also need to give and be generous and be pillars of

00:45:36.220 like you know what we would describe today as a patron of the arts shoot what you might describe

00:45:41.100 then as a patron of the arch or a patron of voyages a patron of sending out missions and

00:45:49.580 the commissioning stories and poems to be told and entertaining and giving gifts to travelers

00:45:57.140 and to warriors and to people that are exceptional and entertaining the folk

00:46:03.000 there wasn't the idea of having uncle scrooge's money bin where you go like swim in your in your

00:46:10.080 gold pieces in fact that's something that's very much talked against it's not you shouldn't save

00:46:17.580 that you need to just throw money willy-nilly but it was very much that you need to use your

00:46:21.420 resources in circulation for the good of of the folk of the kingdom of whatever your situation

00:46:28.300 is but the idea of entertaining and taking care of travelers and guests was um

00:46:38.620 an extremely important virtue to our ancestors and i know that's obvious in this but i don't

00:46:43.740 think it can be you know stated over much well and you know there there's a a word of alarm and it's

00:46:54.140 kind of funny i was just thinking this so you're you're rolling in from the gym and i'm rolling in

00:46:58.700 from work and i'm just imagine us like sliding in because that's kind of how it works like right

00:47:03.820 before we go we do this and so there's some stuff in here like i didn't uh you know i was looking

00:47:09.500 at things earlier than the week but i didn't prep for this and i just looked it up while you were

00:47:13.500 speaking the word that alarm word that really kind of um i think is the caveat to perhaps

00:47:23.820 it's obvious that king gerald's nature is already set but the the the word that's

00:47:29.500 worth mentioning here is that when um when fuller goes to him um she says in the old norse hon

00:47:36.380 bad canon varust out ii fairy gave the uh jonam fjolk kuning good or kung nee yeah

00:47:51.740 i'm not 100 on how that's exactly pronounced but fjolk fjolk kun nig or near

00:47:59.980 mother and i looked it up because i didn't i was like oh man i'm i'm not familiar because

00:48:07.540 the usage of the word wizard or warlock i've seen a lot of different translations

00:48:12.500 for what exactly the word is that she uses to describe lord olden and um so looking this up

00:48:19.760 The Fjolkunningr is a person skilled in magic, a Fjolkinningr is a black art, witchcraft, wizardry, or sorcery, and Fjolkinnisfolk are wizardly folk.

00:48:40.960 so it even mentions the idea that there's a plethora or perhaps a um a grouping of them

00:48:48.160 um at least not not in this story but that the word itself and its usage is um and so like that

00:48:55.140 was one thing like i didn't prep for that at all but i just saw it and i was like oh that's the

00:48:58.920 word um so you know he's he's a practicer of the of the black arts he's a practicer of sorcery and

00:49:06.360 witchcraft yeah um and this sends geroth into alarm even though again it's he's already pretty

00:49:13.200 much set that he's not a great guy but this definitely sends it over the top

00:49:18.260 um another thing while i got a second um brandy celebrated uh madison and nick for their

00:49:29.140 contributions to getting the store up and running and rightly so um madison and nick are awesome

00:49:38.340 we love you guys you guys do great stuff but she is a little bit remiss not to take a hearty chunk

00:49:44.820 of the credit for herself on that brandy has been the three of them have been blowing up my phone

00:49:52.100 all day long to where it's ridiculous and obnoxious because they are at they are working

00:49:58.740 so hard not only they throw what we have on offer at the store together you know efficiently and

00:50:06.180 well but they did it very quickly to make sure that it was going to be ready for us this evening

00:50:10.820 um they kind of got the word late like hey we need a new store solution let's make some stuff

00:50:17.220 happen and brandy jumped on it and within like what two days made a whole lot of stuff happen

00:50:24.740 so appreciate that brandy's awesome thank you brandy

00:50:36.020 with that can you take us into the more familiar looking stanzas right

00:50:41.140 right yes so here we are it's kind of a random sorry a note on a note on lore

00:50:49.300 again i think it's worth saying neither swan nor i

00:51:02.760 nor the all father himself are telling you that this lore is verbatim the literal truth from the

00:51:14.720 mouth of the all father that this exactly happened in this way that's not the point of lore

00:51:20.640 sewn throughout this story are powerful truths overall themes in the story teach us truth

00:51:30.500 it's really easy to see some of these things and

00:51:35.260 you know point out you know sinister behavior from the gods or this and that

00:51:42.760 and get you know pearl clutching about it some of that is cultural context and another part of that

00:51:51.760 is that's not the point it's a device in the story to convey truth to you and to initiate

00:52:00.960 a sequence of events that illustrate important things for our folk to know to better understand

00:52:07.760 our gods and to better understand fundamentals we need to learn as you know as spiritual children

00:52:16.800 going into spiritual adulthood um so i i know that it's easy to look at that way and you know

00:52:24.400 there's the naysayers that are just silly with trying to point out you know a bunch of literal

00:52:29.360 things there's other well-intentioned people that are schooled in other religious traditions

00:52:34.640 that do teach that their lore is extremely liberal and then there's you know just reading

00:52:40.320 the stories to kids it's very easy for them to be like man why is he being a jerk that wasn't very

00:52:45.280 nice that's not the point so i think that i just think that's worth saying on the top here we have

00:52:54.320 a lot of people that have been out of truth for a long time that are on the show but we have a

00:52:58.880 whole lot of audience that maybe this is their first exposure to it so i think reiterating that

00:53:04.800 sometimes is really important so i just thought i'd throw that out there as we get into the

00:53:09.360 meat and taters of things here yeah i mean a hundred percent you know that i think it's worth

00:53:17.040 noting we i often speak of the fact that also true do not um make mortal prophets into gods

00:53:26.160 that's one key um interesting point of our faith um much like messiah worship in the middle east

00:53:33.440 but it is

00:53:35.920 I always hold it into the understanding that

00:53:38.380 without all of this

00:53:40.300 with the life of Snorri Stutlason

00:53:42.140 and

00:53:43.540 the tumultuousness

00:53:45.980 of his life and his death

00:53:48.020 I definitely believe

00:53:50.420 100% that Lord Odin

00:53:52.180 had machinations

00:53:54.440 in making sure that all

00:53:56.480 of these stories made it

00:53:58.140 like a seed

00:54:00.260 for the future

00:54:01.800 but it's not the literal words of Lord Odin it's not the literal word it's not a prophet

00:54:09.360 Snorty is not some you know you know messianic figure but in essence I think he was a part of

00:54:21.140 Lord Odin's machinations and that's what truly makes the the poetic Edas and the prose Edas

00:54:27.160 divine is that i i think that they had they've survived the onslaught and in essence the soul

00:54:34.600 sickness that begot our our folk and has has survived um so many centuries in order for

00:54:44.760 him to be able to return back into the souls i don't think they've ever left i i think it was

00:54:50.840 more about returning back um in a particular way in a particular in a particular uh fashion that

00:54:59.800 holds that spirit and that that uh power that we need most of all as of now so a lot of these

00:55:07.080 kind of ideas of conquest and um again masculinity and competition and and um you know uh fighting as

00:55:15.480 as uh warlords are um are it's not necessarily a bad thing in the age of you know um uh

00:55:24.760 sanctified martyrs and and cheek turners and um you know con consistent uh you know

00:55:33.560 lashings on the back those those folks are being you know again they this is what we've gotten

00:55:39.480 and it's time to kind of so i really enjoy the the spirit that returns with some of these and

00:55:45.480 i don't always look back but yes as kids this might be like wow why is lord of them being such

00:55:50.120 a jerk but it's again time and age and and sometimes you know necessity based on what

00:55:56.200 we need for the story yeah a lot of things are are truth and i think that

00:56:03.320 okay so a couple of things here and this is gonna go off on on a rabbit trail that i i think is

00:56:09.320 important and it's something we get asked about from time to time but

00:56:15.880 the all-father works through

00:56:23.560 works through people often and that's kind of a recurring theme in our laws he'll inspire

00:56:32.360 a king or a hero or a person of great importance and he'll work through them sometimes that is

00:56:42.360 more clear and and you know straightforward sometimes that's through arranging events

00:56:48.520 in a certain way sometimes that's by showing up kind of at random and dropping you know

00:56:56.440 dropping a hint or planting a seed that's part of how he affects his will in the cosmos

00:57:05.640 and directs the evolution and growth of our folk um something you know we talk about the afa being

00:57:13.400 pan arian and a lot of people wonder you know then why don't we you know do this or why don't we

00:57:21.640 use the anglo-saxon corpus of things or why don't we use the why aren't we gaelic or why don't we

00:57:30.440 use you know slavic things or why you know a couple of things in a lot of really practical

00:57:37.640 ways because we got to use something so let's pick if we use everything then we're spread out

00:57:44.680 um and you don't have cohesion there's a lot of practical concerns but what it fundamentally boils

00:57:50.760 down to is this is the lore that the all father through his wisdom through his foresight and

00:57:59.460 machinations has arranged to arrive to us in the most complete most useful best version

00:58:08.480 and with that in mind and with that being so it was under these conditions through these names

00:58:20.260 with these stories through the Norse ordering of how we relate to the divine

00:58:28.060 that the All-Father begin working with another such individual as he's always done. He worked

00:58:38.040 through great men to inspire them to great things and to further the current of our folk.

00:58:45.120 And he did that with our founder, Steve McNallan, way back when, starting in 1968.

00:58:51.540 He picked him.

00:58:53.420 He whispered in his ear.

00:58:55.340 He wrote across his heart.

00:58:57.220 He inspired him to formulate this that's brought us all here today.

00:59:03.560 And he did that not as any other of our brothers and sisters and cousins' conception of the king of their gods.

00:59:14.300 He did it as Odin, the Allfather of the Aesir, as the Norse called them.

00:59:23.320 The Furious One.

00:59:25.000 That's the context.

00:59:26.900 That's how that started.

00:59:28.400 That is the relationship that brought us to where we are was something very similar.

00:59:34.120 was the All-Father choosing to pick a mortal

00:59:37.420 to speak to them, to empower them

00:59:40.220 and to work with and through them towards an end.

00:59:45.740 And that's very, you know, in a lot of ways

00:59:50.480 that's what's happened with a number of great men

00:59:52.720 in our history.

00:59:55.340 And it's with respect to that

00:59:57.480 and trying to align ourselves with Othyn's will

01:00:02.800 to the best of our understanding that we choose to to emphasize the norse conception of our of

01:00:09.600 our isir and that's that's kind of what brought us to where we're at so in case anyone was curious

01:00:17.600 on that not sure if anybody in chat room is but i know some of the audience that listen certainly is

01:00:23.920 and and that was a subject brought up during ostara with um a young man who who predominantly

01:00:29.920 followed a Gaelic path of faith, but showed up to a Teutonic Aryan, also through Hoth to give

01:00:41.020 thanks to the gods, and, you know, had brought up that question as to why and how and the pathway

01:00:50.320 that you just explained. So I think it's worth it. It's a strange conundrum, and especially to

01:00:55.440 our fault one of the challenges of being a very intelligent highly evolved people being a noble

01:01:05.840 people is that we have a lot of choice we aren't blessed by the amount of ignorance or whatever

01:01:18.560 that just oh well whatever no we have an inquisitive mind that wants to know why wants to

01:01:24.560 learn things there's a lot of right ways to do things but if we're all pursuing all these different

01:01:31.880 right ways to do things and we don't coalesce behind one right way to do things nothing gets

01:01:37.980 accomplished you know we can say cool well how about you take us all to your your gaelic temple

01:01:45.180 and we can go there and you know worship tyrannus instead of thor's off oh that's right there's not

01:01:53.260 on and that's not that's not a dig it's an illustration that we have a path that has brought

01:02:01.100 us success we have had a path that we've followed faithfully and that our gods the iser have blessed

01:02:09.980 and allowed encouraged and inspired to get to where we are today and where we will be in the

01:02:18.060 future we've done that by doing things a certain way so yeah we could have should have would have

01:02:23.660 might have done things a million different ways but this is what we did these are the terms that

01:02:30.700 the relationship with all father odin and our founder stephen mcnallen this is what brought

01:02:37.260 that together what led that for the last 52 years or so i got a math so what 50

01:02:50.300 six yeah yeah i got a math so 68 until today anyways um whatever that is that's

01:02:59.740 this is what's this is what works this is what we're doing this is why we've got where we are

01:03:08.460 but the question is for everybody that wants to well actually we could well actually you

01:03:13.540 could do a million different things but this is the way that we've done it and this is the way

01:03:19.400 that the gods have blessed and so this is why we're doing it the way that we are 56 thank you

01:03:24.840 nick that's what i thought doing it in my head but it's not what my welcome letter says so i

01:03:29.060 clearly need to need to work on the math in it yeah uh when i tell this story i often speak of

01:03:43.220 as lord olden's being uh kind of enfeebled and rickety in the beginning if you will

01:03:51.980 because the the tension of the of the story the sorry excuse me excuse me the intention of the

01:03:57.860 story is that there is a tension build as the realization for lord odin that his his uh you

01:04:08.080 know project is as bad as everyone says and then the vindication against that slowly starts to

01:04:16.080 build and lord odin then does become the furious one by the end so in the beginning there there is

01:04:24.260 that you can see it even in the way the wording is done and uh it kind of goes you know from this

01:04:30.120 being tortured to now lord gerald is in very deep trouble because he suddenly realized who he's been

01:04:40.940 torturing for eight nights and this is the ninth night and this is when the the this is when the

01:04:46.860 bell tolls if you will for uh king gerald so for those that don't know this story that's what's

01:04:52.540 happening and so that's why i'm kind of you know starting out with just kind of you know very very

01:04:58.140 feeble and then it builds into you're doomed so um you know verse number one uh and again i love

01:05:09.820 the poetic style here because it does have such a kind of uh theatrical painting to it it's it's

01:05:19.580 the verbiage matches uh with a with a with emotion a lot uh more congruently than in some others

01:05:27.100 um so uh you know the the feebled wizard is is burned and singed between these two great fires

01:05:35.100 and and he says uh hot art thou fire too fierce by far get ye now gone ye flames the mantle is burnt

01:05:45.900 though i bear it aloft and the fire scorches the fur so he he in essence is is telling the

01:05:55.260 the fire to go at bay and you know in a i've always wanted to see this in a play like sense

01:06:02.700 where um you know he he's utilizing these powers just in front of uh agnar right now

01:06:09.100 uh and and agnar's kind of you know as a young boy 10 years old suddenly realizes wow this

01:06:14.940 this wizard is you know really powerful because he starts to kind of move the fire at bay to give

01:06:21.420 him a chance to speak um and he speaks about his his cloak his mantle uh his dark blue cloak and

01:06:30.860 the fur inside the fur lining is being is being singed not fur on the shoulder pelts by the way

01:06:37.500 it's fur in the side like a like a true gentleman um the uh you know it doesn't say this in the text

01:06:46.940 but one thing that i always envisioned the disguise is burning off the god is not burning

01:06:59.260 so he's amidst the flames and his you know mortal disguise of whatever is on fire and

01:07:06.780 he's sitting there you know unburnt and his true self is coming through as the disguise burns away

01:07:15.340 um something to note before we go on i'd be remiss if i don't do it and i'd also forget

01:07:20.060 gothi rob stamm 50 donations to bns thank you rob we appreciate it thanks rob dang

01:07:28.860 um that's amazing everybody tonight um

01:07:33.980 Um, in verse number two, um, you can see if you're, if you're reading in the old Norse,

01:07:42.160 uh, you know, he, he says, uh, you know, out the night there sat, eight nights sat I

01:07:50.780 milly between Elda fire here, you know? And so if you're interested in learning old Norse,

01:07:59.020 there there is um you know there is a commonality that you can see in it that you can apply you know

01:08:06.120 and and translating and that was just one simple little thing to show like bellow says you know

01:08:12.360 twixt the fire now eight nights i have sat it's not far off it's not very different um

01:08:19.540 but you know it's very easy to get lost in the spelling of old norse versus the sound

01:08:26.040 you know all right i'm gonna put this out here so this is a

01:08:33.880 i suppose it's a challenge but it's also an invitation um

01:08:40.600 old norse is tricky

01:08:44.120 the trickiness of it is easy to be daunting and to

01:08:51.080 get one to throw up one's hands or be like i got better things to do i'll get to it later

01:08:59.320 that's literally something i've done for the better part of two decades

01:09:04.600 i am remedying that and it's slowly but surely because i think it is really important but it's

01:09:09.320 because it's so tricky and there's not a lot of folks to speak it to or with

01:09:17.560 it becomes challenging what i'm currently doing um is i'm trying to take a

01:09:29.160 okay so the approach that i am taking

01:09:33.400 and this is probably any of our linguists out there may cringe

01:09:36.920 when i get this wrong but i think for the um for most of us

01:09:41.960 is to Elizabethan period English what Icelandic is to Old Norse. So they are mutually intelligible.

01:10:06.140 I'm not wrong if, if I doth say unto thee whatever,

01:10:11.760 it just sounds odd and you guys may chuckle,

01:10:14.340 but everybody knows what I'm saying.

01:10:16.720 It's very similar in that way.

01:10:18.900 So that is to say this,

01:10:21.040 I'm a Memrise trying to learn Icelandic simultaneous

01:10:26.140 with their user-made course,

01:10:28.580 which we can help you get if you want to,

01:10:31.280 to learn Old Norse.

01:10:32.660 So I am doing whatever their little thing is

01:10:35.880 get a ding on the calendar that you've accomplished your goal for the day i'm doing that every day

01:10:41.080 on icelandic and on old norse i would encourage all you guys to do the same if you are reach out

01:10:47.320 it'd be cool for us to link those things together back and forth and learn from each other um but

01:10:56.360 yeah uh memorized does not in any way sponsor this program they could if they'd like to but

01:11:03.960 they do not it's just really cool and it's the best i've found so far with what i'm doing and

01:11:09.480 it's all from this guy to the it's strange because we're looking at each other backwards so to the

01:11:18.600 left if i if i am me on the screen to the left of me me looking at the screen to the right of me

01:11:27.000 uh swan turned me on to it we've all seen that's fun adds so much with his

01:11:37.960 with his insights into into the language he comes stock with some of that being a son of iceland

01:11:46.120 um but yeah it adds a lot to it and i'm trying to work on getting better and i would encourage

01:11:52.760 everybody else to try to try to work on that as well and if you'd like we can work on it together

01:11:58.520 and i would like to bring up a point i really like supporting memorize and they they have i

01:12:04.040 believe they have icelandic in their core courses they have old norse in their community courses

01:12:10.040 and you have to sometimes differentiate those if you're going via pc um if you want it on your

01:12:17.560 phone you have to go to your pc go to community courses and complete one full exercise and then

01:12:25.320 that will be in your um queue for you to be able to pull up and continue on the lessons a lot of

01:12:32.680 people had problems with that trying to figure out like hey i i clicked on it but it's not in my queue

01:12:37.640 no you have to complete one lesson of it and old norse is in now in the community courses and

01:12:43.880 modern languages like icelandic are in the regular courses um but it's worth noting for

01:12:50.280 those that might be like oh duolingo duolingo has klingon has valerian from game of thrones

01:12:59.000 and i think that's it but they don't have icelandic that's racist that that burns me

01:13:06.840 so bad like what there there are more people that speak icelandic than than uh yeah klingon or

01:13:17.160 varana i don't know if they have like cindarin or quenwa uh the the tolkien el uh elven languages i

01:13:24.520 don't think those are on there but still they they got those two and they don't have icelandic and it

01:13:28.760 just irks me tragic yes so support memorize because not only do they have really great

01:13:37.640 languages that are slowly dying and or or just becoming thinned out um like ukrainian or icelandic

01:13:45.640 um but they also have really you know really great old languages my son was learning um

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01:13:57.000 memorize.com it's uh m-e-m rise.com um i really wish they didn't sponsor us that would be cool

01:14:08.040 it really would be cool let's get back to grimnir betwixt the flames yes so betwixt the flame uh the

01:14:17.960 fires now eight nights i have sat and no man brought meat to me save agnar alone and alone

01:14:24.040 shall rule gerod's son over the goths and there's some uh pro prose issues with this it seems to

01:14:34.520 have been chopped down but the the meaning is still the same over the land of the goths uh

01:14:39.560 in in the old norse you know and um this could mean two things and a lot of people have speculations

01:14:48.280 on it one is that it's in reference to the island east of uh svidjod which means people of the svear

01:15:00.200 or sweden east of svidjod there is an island called gottland or gottland is uh gottlandi

01:15:09.160 and so it may be there but as i've kind of leveled already i and i feel that this is very reminiscent

01:15:15.720 of the the migrational period tribal um you know uh kind of stories that this mirrors those stories

01:15:27.200 that they spoke then that i've been really looking for like like uh you know gerald and and king uh

01:15:34.960 hrunding um or excuse me uh hralfing um amongst the goths as like lateral possibilities there

01:15:44.620 And the Gothic lands at the time, they were a conglomerate tribe in the east that went down the Volga River and kind of came in through Pomerania or Prussia or Poland, what is now Poland, and moved their way all the way to the Black Sea on the western shores where they helped found what would eventually become the city of Kiev.

01:16:14.620 And there were conglomeration tribe. There was like the Goths as themselves, the Gutens. There was the Burgundians. There was the Skiri. There was the Rugi. And I'm using the Latin terms. Most likely it was the Skar or the striking ones, the Ruge, the red ones, the Burgundians, of course, the Burgundy ones, the Heralds.

01:16:41.600 there were many different tribes that were involved in the eastern lands and i don't know

01:16:46.640 if this is a clue or not i've been looking at it just to try to see if i could find anything but

01:16:51.140 that is so specific that it's worth looking so he says you know basically because what you've done

01:16:59.520 you are going to be the leader of a of a very large amount of people and he he's saying it

01:17:07.020 not like he's giving those people up to Gerov, but that he is intuitively speaking of his future.

01:17:14.840 He knows exactly where Gerov is going, or not Gerov, excuse me, Agnar, Gerov's son, is going to go.

01:17:22.360 He is going to be a bright fane, and Lord Odin is going to see to it that he will

01:17:27.980 hold a crown and hold a ring over a very large group of people.

01:17:34.600 so not just a crown the crown of the dude that did not give odin the proper hospitality exactly

01:17:42.960 yes so it's it's definitely being leveled here now that that uh lord odin um sees what's going

01:17:52.900 on and has allowed the eight knights to pass and again uh the number nine is a very strong poetic

01:17:59.520 um verse tool um and is a very you know powerful number in our faith um along with some other

01:18:07.720 numbers but um that's why especially with lord oh then nine is the the number of dynamicism

01:18:13.940 it is the eternal number that that rolls upon itself it is always moving so um the ninth night

01:18:22.620 Lord Odin has had enough.

01:18:27.060 And he says, hail to thee, Agnar, for hailed thou art by the voice of Viratir for a single

01:18:37.480 drink, thou shall never receive a greater gift as a reward.

01:18:42.040 So in essence, he says, I swear by Lord Odin, which tongue in cheek is because he is him,

01:18:49.040 uh for one single horn you shall receive a great gift and again this is lending to the

01:18:57.700 kind of in the halvamal where it says you know a half a loaf of bread a half of horn of mead

01:19:03.620 very little is needed or uh to be given in order to gain a friend this is an essence a reiteration

01:19:11.020 of that stanza um you know for a single horn you have given your fate to great and glory

01:19:17.380 simply because you gave when no one else would um so uh he moves to to uh four and he says um

01:19:31.000 the land is holy that lies hard by the gods and the elves together now this is where he starts to

01:19:38.660 reveal and this is also where the poem begins to become encyclopedic and what he's speaking of

01:19:46.160 is the heavenly lands. He's speaking of the lands in which the Alvar and the gods live. And bear in

01:19:54.420 mind, it is the lands. It's not an ausgarther castle per se. It is a kingdom wrapped in

01:20:04.480 mountains and given to the land around it. It is that central place. It is that upper place.

01:20:11.820 It is the place above the light, above the clouds, above the light elves. And in that place, he begins to paint the picture of that place because so few mortal men know that place so well.

01:20:26.380 And his reiterations of all of this is emphasizing to Agnard and soon to King Gerov of who exactly they've been torturing, while at the same time, the poet is learning the geography and cosmology of the world.

01:20:45.500 And that's why I think it is so important to emphasize the upper, middle, and lower worlds, and why Yggdrasil is in the upper world, and it's all kind of laid out here.

01:20:59.220 So he says,

01:21:00.440 The land is holy that lies hard or stable between the gods and elves together, and Thor shall ever in Thruthheim dwell till the gods to destruction go.

01:21:15.500 So he is stating the hall or the home within the kingdom of Ausgardur, where Lord Thor and his domain.

01:21:28.080 And I think that it's worth noting that a lot of people kind of have a tendency to see the gods as, you know, Viking warlords, especially in the modern age with the history channel.

01:21:40.740 But I honestly believe that our ancestors greatly saw the gods as kings and queens of a great, vast kingdom, a kingdom that was that is perfect.

01:21:53.080 And in its usage of words, they describe it as a perfect place.

01:21:57.200 It's the best of it. It's the it's a vast land encapsulated by strong walls so that you never have to worry about the, you know, the outside kind of interloping in.

01:22:09.020 and inside that place there are vast kingdoms of the gods and they i i've always kind of painted

01:22:15.660 the stories of the gods to be more i i don't want to say arthurian or medieval or because those words

01:22:23.500 carry things but in essence that's what i'm kind of going for is is i always have in the stories

01:22:28.700 when i tell them to the kids is the the gods are kings and queens in their kingdoms and um

01:22:36.620 and it is bright and beautiful it's not you know some kind of swarthy mud pit with like thatched

01:22:43.340 roof and and uh and you know like skulls and bones hanging and clinking from from rafters no they're

01:22:50.700 they're their roofs are thatched with swords and shields and gold and uh you know there's bright

01:22:57.740 light and and rainbow and and just flames of glory everywhere so i digress but um for those following

01:23:08.780 at home what does thruthheimer mean thruthheim means strength home the home of strength or might

01:23:19.900 um no names are just super important and i want to make sure that folks understand what some of

01:23:26.380 these words translate to because it adds a lot of depth i think sometimes it adds like

01:23:31.020 important spiritual truth but i think oftentimes it just adds a lot to the story

01:23:36.540 and and the and the the usage of the word truth is always kind of associated with lord thor

01:23:44.700 even to the point where um you know there his son uh his sons magni and modi

01:23:51.980 and his daughter in the story is through the she is the one of strength um i can even i i'm sorry

01:24:00.560 i just pictured like people arguing well through time is named after his daughter so it must be

01:24:05.880 her place like uh no um through time is his home it's the home of strength um and he dwells there

01:24:16.040 That is his kingdom until the Jotun's of the East and the Jotun's of Muspel ride upon heaven.

01:24:30.060 Yes, Chris, exactly. Strength home.

01:24:33.180 Strength home.

01:24:37.180 So next we have in five and some of the just getting I'm going to overly pronounce a lot of these like truth.

01:24:46.600 heim or thruth heimi is what it said uh in um in the old norse uh this one kind of throws people

01:24:54.760 off too this is e dollar it's a double e sound the y with a dash over it is e e dollar means the u

01:25:05.080 dales or uh the the the tree that is um in old norse and in or in um it's old norse's eo in the

01:25:17.320 rune um and in uh modern english it's the eu tree which is y-e-w um and that does kind of cause a

01:25:27.960 a lot of issues there but e dollar the dale of the yew trees they call the place where ul now he

01:25:38.200 translates as ul but it's it's spelled ullur in old norse um the lord ullur uh a hall for himself

01:25:47.460 has set so now we're just getting again the the the layout the kingdom the the place in

01:25:55.720 And in this sense, Idalar is kind of a place amongst the yew trees, a place amongst the evergreens.

01:26:02.720 And I think it's very fitting since Lord Ullr is the lord of the hunt and is the lord of the wild woods and the dark woods.

01:26:11.620 And so Idalar would have a very kind of connotation to be a wet, evergreen, dark, loamy place, you know, filled with mist, but beautiful at the same time.

01:26:25.720 And then he moves immediately in the second half of this verse. And Alvheim, the gods to Freyr, once gave as a tooth gift in ancient times. A couple of things about that. So in this one, it says in Old Norse, Alvheim, Frey, Gauvur, I Audaga, Tivur, Atanfi.

01:26:52.120 so like lord fray is given alfheim for his tooth price and and if anybody's familiar with the runes

01:27:03.840 the rune fee in all in the old norse and the younger futark is fehu so it is the the the tooth

01:27:10.880 bounty um and generally it is seen as when the baby cuts his first tooth um though some would

01:27:21.160 argue too that it is again when the baby loses its first tooth and some have held this as this is the

01:27:27.040 origin of the lore of the of the tooth fairy and the idea that it's an elf an alvar uh in that

01:27:35.100 connection of of um you know the the tooth but this is more likely it's it's an established

01:27:42.120 cultural tradition and it's mirroring humanity and saying like you know um when you know a child

01:27:50.780 loses his first tooth we give it a gift lord frey was given alfheim by the gods as his first gift

01:27:57.420 so it's just like a um a a showing of the greatness and the and the the um kind of

01:28:05.980 bombastity of of of it all where it's very very just like um powerful and strong and and amazing

01:28:13.740 um so we just covered three of the realms the gods we have thruthheim e dollar and alfheim and

01:28:26.540 it is known that thruthheim and e dollar are inside the realm of ausgarder but alfheim is seen

01:28:35.020 as a place between the heavenly realm and the earthly realm and i think that is very important

01:28:41.340 in considering Fray's, Lord Fray, or excuse me, that's redundant, but Holy Fray's power in his

01:28:51.300 blessing of the earth and the swelling of the land and the giving of nature and the, you know,

01:28:59.800 the fertileness of the herds and all of those things, Lord Fray, that's his dominion. And so

01:29:06.020 would be fitting then that he stay in that that spot or you know reside there uh with his ever

01:29:12.900 presence to be close to that middle world um so i i find that interesting but it is uh generally

01:29:20.100 alfheim is not seen as a place within ausgartha um let me see here so i gotta back up and okay

01:29:31.620 Okay. So, um, in, uh, six, a third home is there with silver thatched by the hands of the gracious

01:29:45.980 gods, is it in days of old set by a God for himself? Um, this is of course is referencing

01:29:56.820 to lord odin um vallas has bellows translates it to the shelf which that is correct it is the shelf

01:30:06.860 of the slain um but valla has more of a meaning towards the chosen because again it is a verb

01:30:17.060 and it is also an adjective um and i we've spoken about this before on vns where like the name

01:30:23.820 meaning the chosen birch tree on the hill or the sacred tree that one that is kind of singular

01:30:31.660 and lord woven is the chooser uh he is the father so i often say yes i mean this is the shelf of

01:30:39.500 the slain or the the uh shelf of the chosen um and it was set there and it is in essence it is

01:30:47.740 kind of seen as the place in which val hall resides and there is more to val hall that will

01:30:53.820 be spoken of and the sacred rivers that are in heaven and the sacred rivers in the middle world

01:31:00.060 and the sacred rivers in the lower um next he speaks of sock vabek in number seven sock vabek

01:31:11.980 is the fourth, where cool waves flow, and amid their murmur it stands, and there daily do Odin

01:31:20.700 and Saga drink in gladness from cups of gold. A couple of things about Sokvabek, you'll find

01:31:30.780 some translations that kind of lend towards the sunken benches, which would have a kind of poetic

01:31:40.620 meaning of the idea that the benches are full and so they they're bowing in the middle um

01:31:48.460 and that could have uh you know placement but i also want to bring up that the word becker

01:31:55.020 b-e-k-k-r uh has a word for like a brook or a river and it's worth you know it's directly

01:32:02.940 mentioned afterwards that that cool waves flow there and again the the nature of the maidens

01:32:10.140 of fen solar and and lady frigga always correlate to the earth and to the water um and and the the

01:32:18.620 great placement of of that um those elements again lending to how our gods are kind of seen as

01:32:26.700 originating from light wind and fire or from earth water and and mountain or stone um

01:32:37.900 very very oversimplified way of looking at it but a way to get your bearings if you're if you're new

01:32:43.420 to things um so and again very interesting to mention here lord odin drinks from golden goblets

01:32:52.940 with the ausenior by the name of saga and she is the the historical keeper of all the deeds and

01:33:04.180 and those in our faith when we talk about the the gods meeting out the doom of men and marking men

01:33:12.040 for for glory they don't do this in an afterlife life sense because we don't speak about the gods

01:33:17.840 is like hey when i die i want you to notice me we don't say that at all we say now in the living

01:33:24.240 time we want to be witnessed by the gods the gods mark us for glory or doom in the living time not

01:33:31.120 in this kind of afterlife feather heart scaling um concept that that's floating around out there i

01:33:39.600 think that's and i believe that saga is the keeper of the doomed and and the blessed or the

01:33:47.440 the kind of those that are bound for glory those that are to be remembered those that hold that

01:33:53.040 history um and and here lord ovin speaks with her about the future kind of developments of

01:34:02.800 the mortal souls as they move through the world and and advance forward through so there's

01:34:09.840 there's a little bit more to that that you know i'm just kind of discovering more on recently

01:34:17.440 is her name saga

01:34:21.040 because in the text her name is sauga and it's funny because in english it just comes over as

01:34:30.740 saga but those are both distinct words in the old norse which i think is really interesting

01:34:39.120 And it causes a lot of confusion.

01:34:42.800 Yeah.

01:34:45.780 Absolutely it does.

01:34:47.980 And I don't think there's reason not to conceive of her as, you know, in the sense that Saga would imply of stories and tales of past deeds.

01:35:03.120 But Sal is seeing, to see.

01:35:07.260 To see.

01:35:08.180 um is you know the lady who sees well and that would imply a a particular theme that always

01:35:18.180 follows through in our like the teutonic framework of arian concept that the past

01:35:26.740 projects the future so she can see based off of the past much like how lord exactly

01:35:33.860 i think i think it retains all of the original thought that i think modern people have constructed

01:35:42.180 around her but also with the added vision towards the future like she sees the projection of these

01:35:50.900 things and it's always been kind of a i don't know beautiful image to me that they you know take a

01:35:58.420 break and go sit down by this brook and drink from cups of gold and and she you know tells

01:36:05.780 them stories and they talk of things i think it's a nice thing uh chris over in the side yes

01:36:12.100 that's how you would phonetic i'm sorry for those of you listening as a podcast later some of the

01:36:16.900 stuff i do is probably obnoxious it's because i'm looking at the side chat um chris says

01:36:23.300 sauga question mark with a s-a-u-g-a phonetically yes um in the spelling it's s-a with a little

01:36:32.020 apostrophe over the top of it ga and nick just bust that out yeah oh yeah that's how

01:36:38.580 that's how you would pronounce it certainly chris also too it's worth noting that the word

01:36:43.940 sow also means to sow as in again looking forward and knowing what is that which has been planted

01:36:53.460 in the past and what you you will grow in the future so there's that that uh so in that sense

01:37:00.420 imply sowing of seeds or sowing um oh the sowing of seeds sowing of seeds so yeah i think that's

01:37:12.180 really interesting um because it's relevant uh chris asked do you feel that saga uh follows us

01:37:18.820 today absolutely um absolutely i can only hope that her and the all-father have had conversations

01:37:31.940 about things that that perhaps we've been involved in that would be a great honor if that's the case

01:37:39.540 i also you know the culturalness of us using horns is so beautiful and pronounced but

01:37:48.740 i'm only stating this because there are people out there that were like goblets or even again

01:37:54.980 the meat bowls that were drunk out of by the anglo-saxons and there were more vessels than

01:38:00.100 just horns the horn is sacred as a cultural image but it becomes almost comedic i think if our folk

01:38:08.260 or people that don't know just think oh you know what you can't have you can't have this you can't

01:38:13.780 have that it's got to be a horn it's you know where's your face paint like yeah or even the

01:38:19.780 boogas that horns too much why aren't you like drinking out of your cup hands right or the skull

01:38:25.460 of your enemy or something why aren't you lapping it up out of a puddle yeah i mean i i love the i

01:38:34.340 I love the, yeah, like you said, they're sitting and drinking these goblets, cups of gold, and going over the past and the future, and the sowing and power of the souls as they grow in might, and what that power means in order to attain them, in order to fight off the chaos in the end.

01:38:56.300 It's beautiful.

01:38:57.220 um so we we uh

01:39:02.980 shift again because it's and a lot of people need to realize this there's almost no rhyme

01:39:09.500 or reason at this point it's just again stating for the poet to learn and get an idea but there

01:39:16.300 is a semi sense of uh order and then you'll notice that sometimes things are banded together

01:39:26.740 And I mentioned it in the beginning that it's speculative that our ancestors understood this, so it didn't need to be reiterated, which is amazing to me in the sense that our faith, Ausatru, was intrinsically known to enough people that when it was spoken, whether in story form or poetic form, it was known.

01:39:50.340 And that shows that there is clearly a deep level of understanding from the folk, even as the scald is, you know, speaking of the lore.

01:40:04.500 And I think that's just, again, it's organized yet unorganized in the sense that I think moving to Iceland probably caused a great amount of that disorganization.

01:40:14.620 But by the time that these stories were being written down into prose, it had re, I love to use the word, re-galvanized itself from the culture of Norway by that time.

01:40:32.380 So we move into number eight, verse number eight.

01:40:38.040 The fifth is Gladsheim, the gold bright there, stands Valhall, stretching wide, and there does Odin. Each day choose the men who have fallen in fight.

01:40:54.300 and so we begin to see that there is a layering sense of the overall um place that is glad time

01:41:05.400 glass time is the oak is the place of joy the place of gladness and inside the place of gladness

01:41:13.440 There is Vallaskyolf, Klidskyolf, Valhall, and it kind of, again, lends to the grandioseness of Lord Odin as having these, you know, multiple places within his, you know, I would say the central place, where the keep, where the castle, where the central place is, is Gladsheim.

01:41:43.440 within glasheim there is these multiple places um and again worth noting it is the place of joy

01:41:50.880 it is gold bright it is shining um not you know a dour place i think um that often gets

01:42:00.400 like you said to alzheimer it often gets placed upon uh lord oden which is why at at um

01:42:08.000 odin's hof you know i wanted to show that on one side but on the other side the gold the

01:42:15.200 the brightness the fire the the light and have that that showing because all too often he's

01:42:22.960 placed simply in our minds as a a dread and that's the thing in uh modern house of truth

01:42:31.280 just because of some of the

01:42:35.440 some of the cultural occurrence at the time

01:42:40.140 you know you get the black metal

01:42:44.540 shoulder pelt ash on the face everything's dark and gruesome and um to to forgive the pun uh gothic

01:43:01.280 It doesn't, I don't think a lot of people stop to consider that.

01:43:06.900 And it's an interesting juxtaposition, even in this poem, the grimness model.

01:43:13.840 It mentions the grimness of the countenance.

01:43:18.840 And there's some linguistics to that.

01:43:20.700 But fundamentally, that is what has come to us as meaning grim today.

01:43:25.220 And it's, Allfather Odin is a, you know, and I say this and I don't mean it in irreverence or ignorance to any of our other gods.

01:43:46.080 But we know so much of Odin for him to be so very multifaceted and a god of dualities.

01:43:56.820 I think that Edred Thorson put it that Odin is the lord of light and the driton of darkness.

01:44:05.320 He occupies both of those spaces, and he certainly has a grim and a fierce, furious element to him.

01:44:19.580 But fury is an interesting way that it translates as well.

01:44:24.980 Ecstasy is experienced in a lot of different ways.

01:44:27.920 it is equally ecstatic for one to be overcome by battle lust and rage as it is for one to be

01:44:40.040 overcome by sexual lust or one to be overcome by joy and like just emotion of tearing up at

01:44:51.460 something beautiful ecstasy and fury doesn't fury is a odd linguistic trick it does mean that but

01:45:03.600 it's got different trappings that have come down to us in modern English that aren't necessarily

01:45:10.380 indicative of the original meaning um being overcome with a wave of divine overpowering

01:45:20.500 drive for something or uh intense experience intense uh feeling of something there's so

01:45:32.220 many ways that one can experience that that are all legitimate there's so many ways that

01:45:37.560 odin inspires that that are very different but it's it's just interesting to read in in the poem

01:45:46.440 where he is, you know, most personified by his heiti grimnir that it talks of his home being in the, you know, the home of gladness.

01:46:00.880 it's also the correlation between the rune wunyo and a statusism in uh runic

01:46:11.020 um magic if you will runic the runic studies uh wunyo has that deep connection to again

01:46:19.720 attaining that a statusism like you said it's not always through you know war or murder and and and

01:46:25.480 of lusting, but more of two and a statusism through joy and complete, you know, euphoria

01:46:32.080 to the, that's, that can also have a dangerous side of losing control, but it is through

01:46:38.440 the avenue of joy and happiness and untempered sense, I guess.

01:46:44.220 And there's this, um, I think that's important to talk on too.

01:46:48.100 there's a there is a fine line that is walked between

01:47:03.940 i don't even know this

01:47:08.260 i apologize sometimes when we're talking about deeply spiritual things they don't have a perfect

01:47:18.580 linguistic way of expression that fully encapsulates all of it um

01:47:28.660 there is a

01:47:32.900 uh

01:47:35.700 leo side of ecstasy and a merc side of of ecstasy um there is a

01:47:46.180 a being overcome by emotion but still being

01:47:54.100 like being overcome in your countenance like displaying it but not having it lead to foolish

01:48:03.640 action where there is a a darker side where it in spot like the berserker gang where it inspires you

01:48:14.980 to indiscriminately kill the thing closest to you because you're just in a blind rage and next thing

01:48:20.180 you know your friends and family are dead just like your enemies um and working that line is

01:48:27.540 always fundamental one of the the profound truths of all father odin to me has always been that he

01:48:35.300 is the master of ecstasy and not mastered by ecstasy one of the keys i feel in being an arian

01:48:47.060 being a noble person is our ability to ride the wave of ecstasy towards our will and not be

01:48:58.740 overcome by it to where we are you know suffering addiction or other things being able to steer

01:49:10.900 such a powerful force and master it i think in a lot of ways is spoken to through the imagery of

01:49:18.660 of odin with with his two wolves with freki and gary these completely savage devouring primal

01:49:26.820 forces you know sitting at bay as his pets under his control the fact that you know the vicious

01:49:35.620 guard dogs they don't bark though um but i think those elements are really powerful

01:49:45.220 tools to understand the all-father a little bit better and i think that they're brought out here

01:49:51.140 and worth mentioning and i realize that we're extending this probably into another episode

01:49:59.140 but one of the cool so you'll notice about this poem which is really cool it's got like a

01:50:07.540 compelling story to it the story is a parable that teaches a lesson but within the story

01:50:16.820 odin stops to like lay out cosmology and so i think it's it's a cool poem on a lot of levels

01:50:27.860 even if you know we've got a lot of different people listening to this to this broadcast and

01:50:33.620 some some this is a religion to them some they're just very curious some may just be interested in

01:50:40.100 our lore so even if you're not also true this is a cool poem in a lot of neat ways

01:50:46.820 you are also true it's a very important formative poem on several different levels and i just think

01:50:55.700 it's done in a really special way so this is kind of a treat to go over this with you guys

01:51:03.780 but i have uh yapped enough spawn if you would like to continue our journey i was i was talking

01:51:10.180 to nick before we launched and i was like i don't know if this is going to be a one or a two shot

01:51:15.220 but i mean even if it is a two shot because there is some really good stuff especially

01:51:19.780 when we start getting into the cosmology of the rivers and something that i have not

01:51:25.220 seen anyone cover except for the austral folk assembly so when spawn says the astro folks

01:51:31.620 assembly he means spawn no i am not because it's some kind of pet idiosyncrasy i just i just think

01:51:40.820 that you have done more work with that than anybody else that i've known you've taken the

01:51:45.940 time to really look into that and that's cool and i think we benefit from that thank you but

01:51:53.620 also too you know it's it it is the hope to build bright fame for our our church in the future

01:52:00.740 that our folk can gain from this knowledge and go with with um uh you know confidence

01:52:08.900 in the knowledge of of the lore and to look at it and and and also not to state it as this is

01:52:15.060 the only way but this is the beginning way of which we can begin to understand lore as we go

01:52:20.180 and evolve so it's not just uh you know this is the way it is and this is the way it's set

01:52:25.780 it is no this is the inspirational starting point um there have been many before me but this is

01:52:32.420 where you know what wanted to my own little add into the fire if you will well look what you did

01:52:39.380 spawn so we were going to get back to the text now now i feel the need to whack philosophic here

01:52:47.060 um yes you know that's that's a thing and forgive me anybody that is listening to this

01:52:53.620 just because they like that it's cool norse mythology stuff because it is it is that um

01:53:00.340 But it's also so much more. And as priests of this, Svon and I need to take it to a different level and speak a little bit more about that.

01:53:16.200 um there is a tendency to and i don't know how just how recent this is i know it was a big theme

01:53:27.720 in like the hippie era probably the beatnik era before that and it persists to

01:53:38.000 like revel in ignorance like to celebrate how much we don't know like well we may never know

01:53:47.600 but it's the quest that's it's trying to figure it out that's all worthwhile and that's silly

01:53:55.600 if you're a grown man and you've spent your life doing something and you don't know some stuff

01:54:01.920 you're doing it wrong or you have some kind of disability um

01:54:12.000 but again our people this is the uncomfortable struggle that we do need to

01:54:19.120 realize if you spend your entire life searching and learning and seeking wisdom

01:54:25.520 you will never ever ever ever know 100 of everything

01:54:32.140 and that's that's cool i don't think that's daunting the fact that there's so much to learn

01:54:42.240 is a great thing

01:54:44.680 but if you throw your hands up at 65 or 70 and you have no principles and you don't know you

01:54:54.060 haven't learned anything in your seven decades you've abdicated your responsibility as a man

01:55:01.220 um you should know stuff so that's the thing what's fun and i are presenting to you is not

01:55:10.460 the ending of all possible knowledge of house of truth but it is the best that we've developed so

01:55:18.420 far it is truth and it is good but i have no illusion that whoever sits in my seat you know

01:55:26.900 two or three or four or fifty alzharagothis from me is going to have evolved this faith further

01:55:34.580 have learned more have learned deeper have learned better and you know looking on from

01:55:41.060 beyond the veil i'm going to be highly disappointed if they have it so

01:55:47.940 yeah that's a this is not a stagnant faith there's always better that we can do more

01:55:53.620 we can know and better that we can learn so we're always seeking to

01:55:59.620 i don't know our status statisticians or mathematicians out there are going to

01:56:04.900 understand this better but there's like a a curve that you never quite get to the i realize my hand

01:56:12.020 is off the screen so you don't know what i'm doing over here anyways there's a graph to where you get

01:56:17.220 closer and closer and closer and closer and closer to the to the line but you never quite touch it

01:56:24.100 and you know that's what a lot of this is you notice even in our lore the father of our gods

01:56:29.380 the god of wisdom himself seeks wisdom he consistently seeks to learn to know and to grow

01:56:37.860 and i think that's an example of all of us

01:56:44.420 i'm done we can go on no no this is awesome i love it because it doesn't it's not just a grind grind

01:56:51.620 grind of uh prose and again this one does kind of evoke a lot uh just in the prose themselves

01:57:00.260 there's little things even in this next one or sorry next two there's a little bit more i think

01:57:05.540 there might be a kind of chance for you to speak again because i'm seeing it coming and i'm like i

01:57:10.980 wonder if he's going to say anything about this which is good because it does give uh our religion

01:57:17.380 is a living religion that does pull from long-standing things and uh it's very subtle

01:57:24.580 and it may not even be ever talked about except for one time in someone's life but this is kind

01:57:30.420 of where it's it's also mentioned um sorry i was speaking of stanza 10 but we go into stanza nine

01:57:38.180 um easy is it to know for him who to othen comes and beholds the hall its rafters are spears

01:57:50.100 its shields with shields it is roofed on its benches are breastplates strewn

01:57:59.100 um i love that part too the idea of just the you know the the the laying of the of the it's in the

01:58:07.800 word bernem where we get the word bernie from is is that kind of chain mail shirt slash uh plated

01:58:16.400 pieces um and they're just laying about like ornaments because it is lord odin's um you know

01:58:25.680 hall of the chosen the the um you know the the place of kings and of poets and of warriors

01:58:33.000 all coming together, you know, in a noble celebration, it's great, but it's pretty

01:58:43.440 straightforward, and most, we're speaking there, of course, of Valhalla, and Valhalla will be,

01:58:49.820 in the English, of course, is Valhalla, I don't know why they added the A, but

01:58:55.680 they're referencing Valhalla, the Hall of the Chosen, or the Hall of the Slain,

01:59:03.000 Um, again, I prefer to use the term chosen because it, if the, the vowel father is the choosing father in a, in a verb sense.

01:59:14.500 Um, so, uh, easy, uh, number in, in 10, easy is it to know for him who to Othyn comes and beholds the hall.

01:59:26.140 And here we see nine and 10 have a beginning stanza that repeats itself. And these were often done for the poet to kind of start to shift into other areas. It was kind of like a road mark in the poem.

01:59:40.560 um and there hangs a wolf by the western door and over it an eagle hovers um and this is the

01:59:50.580 part I was getting at the the western door the door of the west and the the association of death

01:59:57.480 in the west um is something that presides in our faith to this day uh in in the Ausitry Folk

02:00:07.140 assembly. And it kind of comes from this. And there's a natural inclination as to why the wolf

02:00:13.000 and the eagle would be hovering over the Western door. And the reason why the usage of the eagle

02:00:20.640 versus the raven is because in this context, the wolf, which is mentioned as a vargar,

02:00:30.100 as kind of like an imminence of death um and the eagle again the predator the one that that

02:00:36.900 that swoops down and is it is a clutching death um is over the western door and this

02:00:43.300 most likely is speaking of an ornamentation uh you know i i like to think of it fantastically

02:00:50.180 as a you know that there is the kind of the literal sense that in the in the dark and western

02:00:56.980 side of of val hall through the that that door they're a wolf and an eagle you know mill about

02:01:02.980 because that's the door of death um uh that connection to the to you know perhaps that's

02:01:10.820 that's the door that the the dead come through um but i i like the fact that it's specifically

02:01:17.460 mentioned of of the vest and door the western door and uh how east has correlation to life

02:01:25.220 life and west has correlation to death with a natural sense of that and that actually kind of

02:01:31.160 goes into one of the questions that wolf throne asked um which we'll get to later about um the

02:01:36.920 word europa um but it does have something to do with east and west um and it's again speculative

02:01:44.300 we could argue about it but um anyways we're gonna go into more more of this we'll get to

02:01:49.940 wolf throne if you're willing to stick around um ah so so we've already established that

02:02:02.100 lord odin is speaking about the halls of the gods but they're not quite within

02:02:08.260 ausgarther themselves but in the surrounding areas or even in this case outside of ausgard

02:02:16.340 now why are outside of heaven him and you again why is this done is this is reminding the poet

02:02:24.260 where the divine elements in the stories the divine gods but they're you know in the story

02:02:32.260 since they're the elements where they come from and this of course alluding back to other poems um so

02:02:39.460 So, in particular, we have a reference to the story of the coming of Scavi amongst the gods. And here we have Threemheim, or Threem, excuse me, Threemheim.

02:03:02.460 um the sixth is threemheim where nazi dwelt the giant of marvelous might now scavi abides

02:03:16.620 the god's fair bride speaking of lord and yours in the home that her father had

02:03:25.640 so threemheim means the home of cacophonous noise and or or the uh of of a clamoring or a crushing

02:03:42.240 And I have always taken this akin to, for me, Skadi is the Austvenir. She's not an Austsenior. She's an Austvenir, and her domain, her dominion is still connected through the Jotnar of the middle world, but she is aligned with the gods.

02:04:09.200 is that it's the clamoring place in the mountains where the glaciers are crushing and cracking their

02:04:17.100 way down. I do believe that the story between Lady Skadi and Lord Nyorth in particular about

02:04:26.640 their marriage is also the showing the divine aspect of a magnificent physical phenomena

02:04:36.340 of the glacier movements to create rivers and i think that they even though we're speaking of it

02:04:43.860 in a in a physical sense this is the spiritual kind of greater sense of it and what she aligns

02:04:49.600 herself with is the in her dominion is that power over um the kind of the raw forces the places of

02:04:57.180 origin that slowly have to be broken off and shaped as they move so that they can enter into

02:05:03.940 the world of men and be uh beneficial as opposed to primordial and um you know dangerous and of

02:05:14.100 of the jotnar and she is kind of that steward of those that wind power that that uh glacier power

02:05:22.420 that avalanche um kind of sense um especially for those who are like perhaps in switzerland i would

02:05:30.020 definitely say uh having shrines to skadi to ward off the uh the the treacheries of avalanches would

02:05:37.700 be well suited um but it speaks again of the poem and the story of thiazi who is skadi's father

02:05:48.260 who is killed by the gods and then the gods in the story do not want to have war with his daughter

02:05:55.780 even though his daughter has shown up dressed for battle and it then begins a whole nother story of

02:06:04.180 poetic awesomeness um that uh you know we'll definitely be covering that later

02:06:12.020 uh but that again is for the poet to remember um and so again the god's fair bride uh

02:06:20.340 And it's here, skir brudr godha. That godha is Lord Njord. And then we move to 12, which I find very interesting, too, that it's the 12th verse.

02:06:37.040 um so there is a seventh it is braida bleak balder has there for himself a dwelling set

02:06:50.480 in the land i know that lies so fair and from evil fate is free um braida bleak means the

02:07:01.280 broad and glimmering it is the some some have translated it to mean the shimmering and fast or

02:07:10.220 quickly shimmering uh or it is the broad and shimmering place it is seen as wide and and bright

02:07:18.780 and there his dwelling place is and it is free of evil um as the bold one resides there which again

02:07:29.100 also places this story in a chronological sense that lord odin is speaking of his son

02:07:37.260 previous to the treacheries of the kinslayer uh loki who kills his blood brother's son

02:07:47.260 who is in essence that makes him his his uh his uncle um and to do so makes him a kinslayer

02:07:55.160 So this is kind of speaking of that.

02:08:01.580 Breidablick, the broad and shining place.

02:08:08.260 Next, we go into 13.

02:08:10.180 And with 13, again, we see the word hymen, which means heaven, because heaven is a Germanic word.

02:08:17.180 It's not a Semitic word.

02:08:18.800 It's not in the original Aramaic Bible or even in the Greek or Latin Bible.

02:08:23.800 I believe they use innumina, I think, as their word.

02:08:35.200 Himenbjörg is the eighth.

02:08:39.200 And Heimdall there over men hold sway, it's said.

02:08:42.940 And that's very important.

02:08:44.440 Over men hold sway.

02:08:46.680 In his well-built house does the water of heaven, the good mead, gladly drink.

02:08:52.840 So this places Heimdallr in between Ausgarder, the land of heaven, and the edge of what looks down upon man.

02:09:10.900 um that is why oftentimes um we light a a light right before uh and this this was a tradition

02:09:19.740 that was started by um uh witten young was um to light a light to show lord heimdall because again

02:09:28.420 it is said he can see into the the physical into the middle realm as easily as he can see into the

02:09:34.680 heavenly realm and he projects that light of heavenliness of the gods in a prismatic way that

02:09:40.880 it is his um that he is the bridge um and so we light a fire um so that he may see that we are

02:09:49.040 holding true to our truth and to our faith to the gods um and it is here that he sits and and has

02:09:57.860 connection over the world of men um and him and bjork is an interesting one it's the heavenly

02:10:03.140 mountains. And I think, again, this is an emphasizing of the idea that there is this

02:10:07.920 edge of heaven, this place where the central place that is above, and that is by the way of

02:10:16.900 mountainousness. It is the center place driven up by mountains. And, you know,

02:10:24.100 Leo Salfheim is that kind of shining abode around the mountains that separate the top and above that

02:10:33.040 place is the residing lands the kingdoms of the of the gods and there that's where the tree is

02:10:40.800 that's where the well is and here on the edge of that place there is the hall that is him and björg

02:10:47.920 and i bring that up again because we've already spoken about the fact that some of the halls that

02:10:52.780 are mentioned are not in ausgarther proper they are connected to adjacent to or some even far

02:11:02.640 away. So I think it's a very big misconception for people to think that all of heaven is simply

02:11:08.160 Ausgard or the castle of the gods and they're at the edge. I think it's very Marvel-esque and

02:11:14.020 that's why I'm trying to steer people away from that and think of things perhaps more than what

02:11:20.880 I think our ancestors were thinking. It wasn't just some floating city. It's a layered place

02:11:30.680 that has um depth and meaning and um you know there's a reason why like it influenced tolkien

02:11:39.320 when he had the white tree um in the center of the you know of the city it's the it's very much

02:11:47.160 the kind of the same poeticness that i think um speaks through in other mediums um but at the

02:11:54.840 the same time other mediums get it completely wrong so i want to try to lay that out in

02:12:01.080 consideration if there's other halls that are not in ausgarther proper but are on the edge

02:12:07.160 adjacent to or even elsewhere um it is worth noting but it is also worth noting that there

02:12:13.400 are 12 of these mentioned because again the attainment towards 12 the attainment towards

02:12:18.920 order is um important so uh him and bjork is covered 14 the ninth is folkvang where freya

02:12:32.680 decrees who shall have seats in the hall the half of the dead each day does she choose and half does

02:12:41.000 odin have so a couple of things that's worth noting is is that the story about lady the holy freya

02:12:52.200 placing that upon lord odin was a deterrent the idea was you want to start a war between two

02:13:00.680 brothers okay i'll do it if i get to choose when i want half the dead and the idea is that there's

02:13:09.960 no way he's gonna allow this but the desire for that war again in the story the caveat of that

02:13:16.920 story is is that what makes it so cool is that yes even despite the fact that he would absolutely not

02:13:25.240 do this and she was banking that he wouldn't so that she didn't have to start the war he did and

02:13:31.960 so this part of our lore i think creates a misconception that lady freya automatically

02:13:41.800 chooses in front but instead it's that she has the dominion to choose in front

02:13:51.080 this it's a subtle difference it's not that she just does get the first half oh we've hit the 50

02:13:57.720 mark okay now it's your turn it's not like that it's that she now has the dominion and the power

02:14:02.840 to step in front of someone the lord of the drayton of war um and that's the whole caveat

02:14:12.760 of the story that i think a lot of people lose and forget about and um so they think it very

02:14:19.000 literally again that lady freya just gets the 50 and then after that it's it's lord othen no it's

02:14:26.360 that her ability to step in front of to choose her own that she wish and here it's stated you

02:14:33.720 know half of the dead each day does she choose and half does oh then half so that's kind of the again

02:14:40.840 everybody that is in folk long is the chosen that she has decreed for herself um and again

02:14:49.480 alludes to another story just as much as uh threemheim with skavi and all of that is

02:14:57.240 is the reasoning why the poet needs to learn all this um and folk vanger means field of the folk

02:15:06.280 uh or in essence the court of the folk a lot of people think like a field like just a square

02:15:13.560 no field as in like the courtyard or the court of a castle or a building um it is the uh

02:15:23.640 the great court uh of of um holy freya um in 15 we move to glit near the shining place um

02:15:37.640 So, a tenth is glitnir, its pillars are gold, and its roof with silver is set. The most of his days does Forseti dwell, and sets all strife at an end.

02:15:53.080 Of course, speaking about the holy house, Forseti, he is the stiller of strife, the lord of law, and the nobility of the folk to be able to govern themselves outside of barbarism.

02:16:12.860 um again the argument is i mean obviously the stories and by the nordic standing point

02:16:18.860 uh lord for seti is the son of uh balder and nana and i find it truly interesting if you look

02:16:27.040 at balder and nana as the the soul and the bright soul of the folk and the devotion and the piety

02:16:35.160 of the folk creates order and that exemplifies through for seti um some folks have argued that

02:16:42.260 this is a synchronization of the, uh, Frigian, um, Lord Forseti was seen as the kind of patron

02:16:53.380 Lord of the Frigians or the, the Netherlands, uh, the, the Dutch. Um, but the, the, the

02:17:00.860 synchronization is so, uh, it's seamless in the sense that I don't, I don't ever see it as being

02:17:07.040 super jarring that that um and and yet the you know the connection between those two lands is

02:17:13.520 is great but um i i don't know if that's i mean i think it's an easy explanation that people are

02:17:21.040 are searching for they're trying to they look at something and then they're like well okay

02:17:26.240 is freya in the norse or is not or they're just trying to kind of jam things together but um

02:17:34.000 And I think it should be more focused on that Lord Forseti is, again, the creator of governance and our ability to guide ourselves with nobility.

02:17:51.920 And his name means?

02:17:54.240 uh the one who four sets or the one who who sets before uh the folk the law the one who lays things

02:18:02.760 down the one who um again it's i mean it's pretty simple four is ahead of or before and safety is

02:18:12.400 to lay but it's speaking of the law to to set the law down um is and to preside over um the one who

02:18:21.980 presides over, in this case, mainly speaking of the legality, is Lord Forseti, the one who presides

02:18:32.460 or sets the law.

02:18:48.540 Let's see.

02:18:50.620 Yeah, and it's very

02:18:52.780 scant when you look at Bellow's notes

02:18:54.640 about Lord Forseti.

02:18:57.180 But thankfully,

02:18:58.960 again, you know, scholars don't

02:19:00.860 get a great amount of religious insight or idea ideas when they place out they're just looking at

02:19:07.840 the the minutiae um and i think like whether it's linguistic or purpose of story but you know i think

02:19:16.020 as um for many people soon you know laying out we have a great amount of of of religious

02:19:26.120 um substance towards lord for seti just like many of all the gods that i think you know we're going

02:19:34.020 to be opening temples to and and um i hope people are ready and willing to learn more about that as

02:19:42.240 we go um and in absence to what a lot of people don't especially um you know like on the internet

02:19:51.100 those, those pesky folks on the internet who kind of fall short of the religiosity that is deserving towards the gods.

02:20:02.100 They're one third of the way towards Forseti's Hall.

02:20:06.100 Yes.

02:20:10.100 Um, so now we, we speak of the 11th.

02:20:20.780 Um, so verse 16, the 11th is no what room there has New York for himself, a dwelling, a dwelling set.

02:20:35.280 The sinless ruler of men there sits in his temple, timbered high.

02:20:43.420 So it is a Noah, the translation of that is we most people go towards tune as being town and Noah being a name for a boat.

02:21:01.940 And again, there is no connection between the Tanakh and the story of the Abrahamic Noah.

02:21:15.820 There is just like Idun is not correlated to Eden.

02:21:22.000 And it most likely means the ship town, a liminal place.

02:21:27.500 And it is often, you know, not seen as in Ausgarther, but in Vanaheim.

02:21:38.000 But, you know, a lot of people back and forth on that one.

02:21:41.860 But I like the fact that he's referred to, again, as the sinless or the he lacks evil.

02:21:49.320 He lacks ill. He is of the goodest of the gods in the sense that you find no sense of malice.

02:22:00.240 And his hand is ever-giving. His smile is ever-bright.

02:22:05.760 And I wrote a lot of that at the mural in Njortzhoff, kind of alluding specifically to this stanza

02:22:13.420 and what it kind of also poetically made me feel about Gordon York.

02:22:19.080 I, you know, it's I've talked about this to some of the, I guess, my fellow old timers about just perception of things.

02:22:40.160 we one thing that was very um very moving and very apparent to me the first time

02:22:54.140 first time we took Aubrey to Odin's off

02:22:59.600 and uh I watched my daughter playing in the uh

02:23:06.980 get in the backyard area

02:23:10.420 I watched her playing at Odin's Hoth

02:23:12.300 and it occurred to me

02:23:14.100 and I've said this on the show many times

02:23:15.940 but we probably have first time listeners

02:23:17.680 my daughter

02:23:20.540 will never know a world

02:23:22.200 that does not have Hoth's

02:23:24.020 to the Aesir in it

02:23:26.000 and that's something

02:23:28.300 no one has

02:23:29.580 been able to say

02:23:32.120 for

02:23:32.800 it's hard to say what may have been squirreled away somewhere but for

02:23:41.240 a thousand years that's profound and it's really profound for those of us who started this journey

02:23:51.180 before there was uh was Hoffs to our gods there is something

02:23:58.540 so being on this journey and seeing and being part of

02:24:06.780 dedicating a half to lord ovin to uh

02:24:13.660 also thor to balder to uh to your there

02:24:20.140 there's something special when we read these passages about

02:24:30.460 their homes or places that were sacred to them when

02:24:42.140 when we can feel that in some small way we participate in that story like we

02:24:49.560 We have been able to gift them some dwelling here on Midgard that will bring them glory and make them happy.

02:25:01.540 But it's a really special feeling going back through the Lord now that we've established Hoffs for some of these gods.

02:25:10.960 and uh i don't know just reading it with that advancement in light it's it's really kind of

02:25:21.460 special and i think that one of the one of the cool things is it may not seem that special

02:25:30.460 because it seems to some people who just joined like ah these have been here the whole time of

02:25:34.660 course we have offs why wouldn't we have offs and that's awesome and i think that's a testament to

02:25:40.700 some of the work that we've put in and a lot of the work that those before us that

02:25:47.020 did this for so long without seeing that culmination of their vision

02:25:53.620 it means a lot to those folks and i think that it's you know something that the old timers can

02:26:03.840 kind of sit back and remember and celebrate and it's neat that people now that doesn't occur to

02:26:11.040 him i had a guy reach out to me the other day you know i i get this regularly we get inquiries from

02:26:18.400 people like hey i live in good night baby i'm doing my show do you want to say hi to his name

02:26:30.320 that's uncle swan you want to say hi to him come say hi to him you got to get in the camera

02:26:40.400 hey what are you doing

02:26:47.440 oh you got it what's your what's your doll baby's name

02:26:54.720 she's not creative when it comes to naming her stuff

02:26:59.440 what i didn't hear it though oh she said the doll's name's aubrey because i think she lacks

02:27:08.060 that then she gets her yeah she gets an argument that she's mommy and has to fight with mandy

02:27:14.660 about that when she's playing pretend with her doll ordering getting things into titles in order

02:27:22.100 It's a bad time I'll see you in the morning, okay?

02:27:26.260 I love you.

02:27:28.100 Good night.

02:27:32.920 Sorry about that, guys.

02:27:33.940 I was just saying it's one of those things that it's cool that she will never really realize in the same way that perhaps Spawn and I realize the difference between having temples to our gods and not having temples to our gods.

02:27:50.380 so it's really special i think the point i was on before i had a really cool distraction is uh

02:27:59.180 i get folks reaching out all the time that are in you know the most random corners of america saying

02:28:06.780 man is there a hof close to me as if it's just the most common thing that we've got hundreds of

02:28:11.900 hoffs everywhere and uh that's a really special vision of what's to come and we're working very

02:28:23.260 hard to where that will be a reality one day we are we're a little ways away from that day but it's

02:28:31.100 special that people just think that's that's how life ought to be like of course they have

02:28:36.380 offs everywhere so i don't know for whatever that's worth but it's interesting reading some

02:28:42.620 of these passages about the homes of our gods when we've been involved in you know giving

02:28:50.620 some earthly reflection of that to them and it's kind of a special thing

02:28:57.580 it also opens up a great chance for us to um kind of explain a little bit in in the writing

02:29:04.060 here in the old norse it says the word is hargi um and that is actually one type of devotional space

02:29:13.660 um and it might sound strange when i say this but uh in so in the house of true folk assembly we

02:29:20.460 have the hof which is the building proper the temple to the gods or specific god and then we

02:29:26.380 have in that sanctum space is the vey uh which kind of is synonymous to sanctum um and then there is

02:29:34.620 the horg and the horg is like an outside uh sacred place and it the timber's high one of the things

02:29:43.020 that's worth noting is that with the with the horgs there is usually a stone a standing stone and

02:29:49.260 There is also oftentimes statuary by the way of god poles, as they're often referred to as steadings of the gods that are in the form of pillars, again, with the symbology of the axis mundi and that the gods are of the order of the universe.

02:30:12.280 So you'll often hear those words interchanged. The vey is that place you go into where there is the harrow of the gods, the table in which we conduct a lot of our gift giving or holds a lot of our things.

02:30:27.680 And then outside is a horg. And then the vey itself is the sanctum within the hoth.

02:30:42.280 um a lot of good questions coming in but i know we gotta we gotta press on i don't know if you

02:30:48.940 want to find a stopping point like we were doing with the halva mall yeah we're looking i'm i'm

02:30:56.240 letting it go for about a half an hour i was looking at uh nine o'clock here on the west

02:31:01.420 coast when i was going to kind of stop the text and clean up any questions that we have okay yeah

02:31:07.820 just want to let people you know i know there's great questions coming in and letting them have

02:31:12.220 an an idea of when when they're gonna we're gonna start hitting them all right questions we'll see

02:31:19.260 how great they are when we get to i'm i have some that are that are definitely um no i'm just being

02:31:26.780 i'm just being a jerk there's some cool questions and there's certainly some questions that involve

02:31:30.540 some linguistics okay so the next we have is uh verse 17 and it speaks again of the land in which

02:31:41.900 dwells one of the most i think enigmatic um ouse of our faith as he is the um you know the the

02:31:53.900 alignment of correct universal action or the action in which the natural law of the universe

02:32:01.500 and the cosmic order and he is ultimately the karma and the vengeance that returns

02:32:07.580 um filled with growing trees and high standing grass it is vivi vidar's land and this is a play

02:32:17.560 on if you see the word v it means wide but it means particularly far away from

02:32:25.560 in its wideness it is not connected um that there is an it's an expanse um and i think that's

02:32:35.680 ultimately the connection here is and the way our ancestors you know seeing this is that

02:32:40.220 there is this land it may not be in ausgarth it may not be in him you know in him and yeah

02:32:46.840 It is somewhere, a place far away from things, and there he waits, and waits to enact his karmic goal against chaos, and that is Vidar.

02:33:04.280 uh but there did the son from his steed leap down when his father he feign would avenge now

02:33:15.040 poetically we've already talked about the idea this is again teaching the poet but from a from

02:33:21.260 a story sense it's lending that lord lord olvin knows not only of his doom but also of his avenger

02:33:30.880 and that is kind of cool too i thought you know i sitting back and thinking of this but again the

02:33:37.880 stanzas are very choppy and i think that they were placed in um with very little regard but

02:33:45.520 more of a sense of again anchoring points for the poet um here's a little bit of lore um

02:33:54.660 that I really, really like. Um, and, and, and it's, it confuses people because it's not a place

02:34:05.240 in verse 18, we immediately start getting some lore dropped, but it's like, wait a minute.

02:34:11.900 Is this a land? Is this a place? Uh, but it is not, it is, it is a place, but it is,

02:34:18.200 There are people in this place that make this place very, very unique. And this is, again, Lord Odin showing, you know, where he's from, and that very few people know it.

02:34:32.700 Uh, so, in eldhrimnur, andhrimnur cooks. So, first off, the word eld means fire, andhrimnur is kind of, again, that sooty edge on the edge of a pot.

02:34:52.420 um and it is the cauldron um that feeds a specific people and it is it is guarded by um

02:35:06.660 and he is sooty faced and i love i love and i'm actually working on a project because i

02:35:17.560 attained an item from a certain cook in the AFA. As weird would have it, it ended up in my hands.

02:35:27.960 And so I'm working on some stuff to give it back to him, but it will be

02:35:32.780 decorated with runes and story of, or allusion, alluding to Andrimner, the cook.

02:35:42.840 um and if anybody's wondering this is the cook in valhall so this is what we're referring to

02:35:50.560 um at this point is um in the next two stanzas um the the cauldron that resides there

02:35:58.820 the cook that stands over it then there is sai rimner um and this is a really interesting one

02:36:08.200 sea uh i guess crust but whenever we see the word like all the room is sooty because it's the the

02:36:20.760 collecting of fire and so that makes it soot um and you know andre is again alluding to the fact

02:36:29.080 that the cook is standing over the the cauldron but then the usage of this one side um is the

02:36:36.040 the ocean collection, or the froth, if you will.

02:36:43.900 Seething flesh, the best of food, but few men know

02:36:47.380 on what fare the warriors feast.

02:36:50.880 And again, in the Old Norse, if you're following it,

02:36:53.840 it is said,

02:36:55.320 Einherjar. And Seirimnur is the boar that feasts or gives flesh to the Einherjar. So

02:37:09.940 the feasting on pork from the sacred boar. I don't know much. I've always kind of alluded

02:37:19.280 to the idea that perhaps it was an everlasting gift like a golden goose from the vanir because

02:37:25.280 of their connection to um especially animals that do represent the fruitfulness of the earth

02:37:31.440 being you know uh swine uh but it's not ever established but i kind of like to

02:37:38.080 sometimes i embellish with the kids there but um it is this the ever givingness of um sustenance

02:37:45.520 within the halls that very few people know that special place of the chosen where the iron feast

02:37:56.480 there in 19 also frecky and gary does the harrier hair father as it's written here father feed

02:38:09.600 the war-famed fighter of old but on wine alone does the weapon decked god othen forever live

02:38:18.320 so this is um some poetics and and i think timeliness to society at first off we the wolves

02:38:27.360 that sit at the feet of lord othen and he feeds them the food but does not need to eat himself

02:38:37.680 but sips on wine and uh and waits and uh and and they they literally that it says in if you're

02:38:48.160 reading this in 19 on the on the third line it says vopin go for uh gover the the god of the

02:38:57.760 weapon god the weapon bedecked god is pretty straightforward translation and i think that's

02:39:04.800 that's really cool valpen um super cool uh as one of the haities of lord oden um and also heria

02:39:16.480 father um the the father of the elevated ones the ones who have risen above um so

02:39:28.720 again this is just me making mention of valhall specifically because again

02:39:34.800 Grimnir is slowly revealing who he is to Geralt um 20 over Midgarth hewn and moonen both each day

02:39:53.220 set forth to fly for human I fear lest he comes not home but more for moonen my care is more

02:40:04.800 This is one that we hear a lot that's kind of quoted in reference to thought and to memory.

02:40:13.680 Munen or munen and huen.

02:40:17.460 I hear a lot of people say hugen.

02:40:20.340 Remember, and if anybody's been following in VNS, the J in the middle is oftentimes a really soft G-Y.

02:40:28.820 so it's hue in og moonen fluya uh fierian fierian day day um every day um

02:40:41.220 yeah so it's it's um over the great expanse or over the great ground over the great earth

02:40:50.000 Jormungrund, not Jormungandr, Jormungrund. Again, the J is like a double E sound.

02:41:03.120 Enormous, humongous ground. Do they ever fly over every day? And he fears thought will not return,

02:41:11.600 but more so memory i've mentioned that before but i think that's that's interesting in

02:41:28.560 interesting in lots of ways um

02:41:34.880 the imagery of odin having

02:41:42.080 and people okay so a couple of things first i excuse myself to go kind of tuck my daughter in

02:41:47.600 there we've got the same kind of folks that are super excited about shoulder pelts and ash on their

02:42:03.600 face and all black like death metal versions of the gods are super excited about wolves

02:42:13.840 all the time there's cool things about wolves and i'm not like disparaging the species

02:42:20.880 but in our lore very often they are used as

02:42:26.160 sources of destruction for the gods trying to devour the sun and the moon the all-father

02:42:36.400 himself they are ravenous devouring the fact that um freki and gary uh like ravenous and greedy

02:42:49.720 I think, or their translations of their names, are at bay at Odin's feet.

02:42:57.420 And then he has both thought and memory that he sends out over the world.

02:43:07.760 It's interesting on a number of levels, the fact that he releases both thought and memory to go do things and then to return back to him.

02:43:20.680 what is his mind doing when thought and memory are gone from it a lot of people

02:43:28.200 feel first that is absolutely a form of whatever kind of meditation

02:43:33.240 that it takes but a lot of people have likened it to meditation that they're more familiar with

02:43:41.000 but it says something to us his fear you know that they don't return to him you know every time we

02:43:49.720 have some kind of separation and i think we all understand that as people existentially whenever

02:43:55.160 we send something out there is an instinctive fear of what happens if we don't get it back

02:44:01.480 every time you lend a piece of yourself every time you loan money every time you do anything

02:44:06.280 to where you give something of yourself in the hopes it'll be returned there's a sense that

02:44:12.520 you're not whole unless it is and a longing for that to come back but then the uh the fear that

02:44:21.640 you know you know man i really need both of these things but i'm more scared that i will lose

02:44:27.640 memory and i think that's so true on so many levels it's something we can all understand

02:44:35.480 the idea of of being disassociated from our history from where we come from from

02:44:42.840 the past that brings us to where we are and just in a very human sense the idea of

02:44:51.160 man it sucks to lose your memory and watching my mother go through dementia at different stages

02:44:59.000 and watch my grandmother go through dementia as well it really you know as the kids say it

02:45:05.720 it hits different once you've seen that happen with someone because memory is such a fundamental

02:45:13.640 piece of of what makes you who you are so i just have always thought that imagery is very very

02:45:20.440 profound and there's a lot of feeling in in that and it demonstrates a way of a way to look at the

02:45:30.280 all father in in a lot of really tangible ways that i think is easy makes it easier for us to connect to

02:45:41.960 um i wanted to bring up to nick hit it out the park i don't know if he

02:45:53.000 um sourced it on the chat in on youtube but nick definitely hit it um

02:46:03.800 the pork is sea crusted which is the poetic word of saying salted

02:46:10.440 so his name means salted pork it's and it i i really i think he hit the nail on the head there

02:46:21.140 nick that was fantastic

02:46:22.900 i don't know if the uh oh well and they and again bellows says uh the blackened but

02:46:33.640 But, you know, Psy is C and Hrimner is the, you know, the collecting of whatever is before it.

02:46:44.880 So, you know, I think that's awesome.

02:46:49.940 I'm going to definitely look into that and see where maybe they got the idea of the word black or where Bellows says it's the blackened, like as in blackened by the fire.

02:47:01.020 Because I don't think that that fits at all.

02:47:03.140 and bellows doesn't always you know get it perfect but i think yours nick is definitely

02:47:12.500 more in the power of the poetics in the way that it would be you know um placed out so oh go ahead

02:47:24.340 disregard let's go let's go hit these next ones um let's finish with 25 tonight let's have 25 be

02:47:40.260 our last one okay well and this is the first mention of a a river in heaven a river in the

02:47:50.020 heavenly realm um again if you're talking to some of the people that try to place everything into

02:47:56.340 the underworld the river parts really throw people off and it's actually the reason i'm bringing this

02:48:02.340 up is it is because of the rivers that i think a lot of people get confused and have created this

02:48:07.940 misaligned visage of um the cosmology and so that's why i always kind of i'm harping on these

02:48:14.980 rivers a lot. Um, and, and, and here's one of the, this is the first one. Um, and it all,

02:48:21.200 it's only briefly mentioned and it's not even in to 25, but we'll go into, um, the rivers later,

02:48:29.180 but, um, 21 loud roars thund and thiod vitnir's fish joyously fair in the flood.

02:48:41.180 hard does it seem to host of the slain to wade the torrent wild i love that verse and i i i

02:48:51.660 was kind of surprised at um some of the some people's uh translations of um it was all

02:49:03.580 over the place some people have like allocated it to heim dollar um some people allocated it to

02:49:10.600 um souls in the river i i um but i i have a i believe a more concise and um and uh

02:49:23.320 straightforward answer uh even bellows refers to the word fjodvnir as a mighty wolf um and i

02:49:30.920 don't think that's the case um in the river the river thund and you'll find out where this river

02:49:39.320 is one it's it's in heaven and again lord odin is telling gerard because he knows this river

02:49:48.520 the river that so few people know the strong the swollen river the the the just forceful river is

02:49:57.880 inhabited by fjodwitner's fish well the word fjodw means people or tribe or nation

02:50:07.160 and wittner is wolf and i have always taken this to simply translate to the the berserker the

02:50:16.360 the ulf heath nor the the vapid ecstatic warrior of of rage and um this kind of lens uh if you

02:50:26.440 in the story with battle bjarki and hrolf kraki there is a story there where battle bjarki actually

02:50:34.040 uh is in a hall and he's drinking with these berserkers um and uh there's a dragon um about

02:50:44.440 and uh they get uproariously drunk and they decide they're gonna slay the dragon and they

02:50:51.000 go forth with reckless abandon to attack the beast and um again story story point is

02:50:58.600 that's not the way to defeat the dragon so uh but they they end up they die in glorious battle

02:51:05.620 against this dragon and um you know again I've always taken that there is that aspect

02:51:11.600 of the ecstatic warrior the one completely lost over um the one that's completely completely given

02:51:19.040 over um especially in relation to like um Evola's metaphysics of war we've we've talked a little bit

02:51:25.160 about that. And so the patrolling grounds around Valhall, there is a river that is patrolled by

02:51:37.900 the nation of the wolf. And they are like many fish. They stand in this strong river

02:51:46.680 protecting Valhall and kind of roaming about. And I think that's a very cool poetic way of

02:51:55.060 of saying that in their many, um, uh, you know, that, that even though it seems hard to

02:52:04.280 wade in that river, the, the host or the, the berserker, the, the, the, the ecstatic warriors,

02:52:12.320 they, they gladly do it, um, patrolling around and holding the security of, of Valhall.

02:52:18.260 um and then again another um pointing out about Valhall 22 there Valgrind Valgrind means the

02:52:33.120 chosen gate or the gate upon which the chosen pass through the sacred gate and behind are the

02:52:39.680 holy doors old is the gate but few there are who can tell how it tight how tightly it is locked

02:52:46.240 and that of course is alluding to the idea that the the chosen are scarce and lord odin is the

02:52:54.060 only one that knows the the true encapsulation and power of that that gate valgrind um

02:53:03.120 23 500 doors and 40 there are i wean in valhall's walls

02:53:13.720 so again 540 doors i see in this hall and now we he reveals he is speaking about thou hall but he

02:53:23.320 starts off by saying the river one of the great rivers that flows through heaven flows around

02:53:29.800 valhall and in it are the berserkers the the urfhidnar the ecstatic warriors and then there

02:53:36.600 is the gate the great portcullis and there is you know it's only few know how uh how to get through

02:53:44.440 it and um and then finally he reveals that it is the great and mighty hall val hall um 800 fighters

02:53:53.720 through one door fair when to war with the wolf they go so i know some people have um done the math

02:54:03.880 um just say and kind of go in a sense of like does that mean that there's a set amount of people

02:54:10.640 that can are allowed into val hall i again i think that's when you start getting into more of

02:54:17.440 the the messiah worship way of thinking i think that the grandioseness of this is the point that

02:54:27.020 800 men could travel through the gate alone and that the vast magnitude of the the host of the

02:54:35.080 is what's really trying to be portrayed here um you know not the not the um you know grinding on

02:54:46.920 the numbers um if you will you know it's kind of i i don't know i can't remember which christian

02:54:52.200 denomination says there's like a set number.

02:54:55.060 Yeah, Nick crunched the numbers.

02:54:56.720 No, if you're Jehovah's

02:54:58.320 Witness, there's only 144,000

02:55:00.640 that make it into heaven.

02:55:02.460 But

02:55:02.940 we got 432,000

02:55:07.220 that get to

02:55:08.580 make it on our side.

02:55:12.540 Yeah, and I think that

02:55:14.200 when people get like, what are the numbers?

02:55:16.180 That means Odin is saying

02:55:18.320 absolutely that this is the only

02:55:20.220 amount of people and it's like,

02:55:22.200 you'll never know because the only one that's going to know that is lord over

02:55:28.200 it's supposed to be just the fact that 800 extension what's that you don't think he can

02:55:37.240 like build an extension there's no it's a shortage of labor right in our regard

02:55:43.940 well and again too when uh getting in with some of the discussions that we had

02:55:49.040 with the goth are about the halls being um in the internal of the gods that the the halls are there

02:55:59.520 that your soul or the soul that goes into thou hall is in essence entering lord othen it's the

02:56:09.620 hall and lord othen are one and that this is the the again the attainment of the might in order to

02:56:17.100 fight against chaos and that's by you know again entering into lord odin into his hall

02:56:24.300 uh with great might and glory and that's you know part of the the purpose of it but that's

02:56:32.300 just an interesting thing too is to think about the halls being also kind of extensions of the

02:56:37.540 gods themselves or that is them and that the symbology of them is more important while the

02:56:44.400 bright and blinking

02:56:46.800 place, especially when you think about

02:56:48.940 Gone in the Blink of an Eye, or

02:56:50.960 Vivi being so wide and

02:56:52.940 far away from everything

02:56:54.300 is

02:56:55.860 interesting.

02:57:00.200 Something I think is worth

02:57:02.120 reiterating here or restating.

02:57:10.780 All of this lore,

02:57:12.460 There are ways that it is transmitted to folk, sometimes through visions, sometimes through inspiration, sometimes through dreams, sometimes through lots of different ways.

02:57:32.380 But our lore is an attempt for us to better understand our gods.

02:57:37.740 our lore is subject to the gods our gods are not subject to our lore and i think that

02:57:47.720 unconsciously sometimes or better way to put it we need to always be vigilant

02:57:55.240 to adjust our thinking to where we don't fall in that trap

02:58:00.620 up to this point most of the things that we find written as explanations for or examinations of our

02:58:12.080 lore are scholars of religious anthropology and are not the pious writings of religious

02:58:22.200 house to true so we and it's very easy all of us are affected by this that's the lens that they

02:58:30.520 examined our lore through it's a challenge to then reinterpret that examination through

02:58:39.400 the lens of piety our gods are gods odin can welcome exactly how many people he does

02:58:47.240 he wants to welcome into his hall and he can exclude exactly the people he wants to exclude

02:58:55.240 for whatever criteria that he wants he is open um when we get caught up in our heads trying to force

02:59:10.760 we do the best to make stick figures that represent the gods

02:59:17.240 it's silly to try to force the gods to be limited to be stick figures.

02:59:26.180 And I think that another way to put it is we want to reach up to better understand our gods

02:59:34.960 as opposed to pull our gods down to us to better understand them.

02:59:40.700 The idea is we want to get closer to the gods, but we do that by ascending,

02:59:46.340 not by trying to bring them down or lower them and that's another really fundamental concept to

02:59:57.060 the upward orientation of ossature we've seen movements in the last 10 years of people who

03:00:05.140 who kind of celebrate their conception

03:00:10.860 of the vandal sack in Rome

03:00:14.460 as if we need to burn everything down.

03:00:18.680 And their focus is on destruction of things

03:00:22.380 to even the playing field,

03:00:23.860 as opposed to acceleration

03:00:28.060 and their own greatness evening the playing field.

03:00:31.260 Any conception of how to even a playing field

03:00:36.500 or make your relative value to others more

03:00:40.920 can go one of two ways.

03:00:42.780 You can make yourself amazing

03:00:45.460 or you can hurt everybody else to make them less.

03:00:51.600 And our focus is to excel and make ourselves great

03:00:56.660 as opposed to tear everybody else down

03:01:00.700 to our level of inadequacy no we want to do more we want to be more we want to ascend

03:01:07.020 so we want to move ourselves closer to our gods what we never want to do is diminish their glory

03:01:15.420 to help us understand them better by making them less or portraying them as less or trivializing

03:01:24.060 so it's important when we look at our lord to have that in mind

03:01:30.140 i think it's very well spoken especially just reminding folks that the lore does not define

03:01:42.960 the gods um so uh let's see here there there's another and i find this this one kind of funny

03:01:56.660 it's basically like um it would be like someone saying like my house has the view of the grand

03:02:07.760 canyon from it or my house has the view of the eiffel tower or or something because the the

03:02:16.000 context even though a lot of scholars believe that this was interjected in i find it kind of

03:02:21.000 funny and cool that basically uh what he's saying is is that from my from my home i can see another

03:02:30.280 home that very few people know of and and it's in heaven so um the in 24 um it says 500 rooms

03:02:44.120 and 40 there are i wean in bill skirner now bill skirner is an interesting one um and it is

03:02:54.920 of all the homes whose roofs i i beheld my sons the greatest me seemed so that's the that's the

03:03:03.800 whole verse 500 rooms and 40 there are i wean or i have seen in built skillner built of all the homes

03:03:11.960 whose roofs i beheld my son's is the greatest i have seen or me i reckoned so again this is a huge

03:03:21.560 layout and it's a little the reason why i think people think it's inter

03:03:26.600 pollated is because it kind of lets the cat out of the bag a little too soon um but this is is

03:03:33.960 like you know and and from my house and from my from my hall the hall of the chosen i see another

03:03:40.760 hall uh it is the hall of uh of another hall of thor it is in through time the hall itself is

03:03:50.040 called bill skinner and that it's the um the shining um uh crap that's i had it just a second

03:04:02.360 ago um the uh skierner of course being like ray or shine i believe it's the lightning shine um

03:04:13.320 that now i'm i'm i'm at a loss um you know like the crack of lightning the crack yeah the flash

03:04:21.480 of lightning flash of lightning yeah and i it's um i and i want to kind of context it right but yeah

03:04:29.560 that is thor's home within through time through time is his kingdom bill skinner is this hall

03:04:37.160 and lord odin is saying from my back door i can see a hall my son's hall uh bill skinner it was

03:04:46.840 built and i can see it and so that's just again is is that gero this should by now know

03:04:55.320 who this is and again too it also kind of gives context perhaps in the idea that there are the

03:05:03.720 halls near each other uh again laying out cosmology for our ancestors to understand

03:05:11.640 and have a better relation and orientation um the lore you know is is a reflection of the gods

03:05:21.000 um so this kind of gives them and why cosmology is so important to look at things a certain way

03:05:28.660 to see the upper world as center and up to understand the nethering place the place that's

03:05:35.120 far away is away from time why the east is so important why the west is so important and so on

03:05:40.540 and so forth orientation is really important to uh link us um to our ancestors um but then he goes

03:05:48.720 back and this is another reason why it's considered an interpolation because then it goes back to

03:05:54.000 valhall but i don't think it's too far out because he's basically saying like from my window i can

03:05:59.760 see this and um and uh 25. the hedron is the goat who stands by her father's hall and the branches

03:06:15.600 of larith she bites the pitcher she fills with the fair clean clear mead never fails the foaming drink

03:06:28.240 okay this one i have some insight on and i for people to consider one shining rune heath rune

03:06:37.280 The usage of that name, particularly as a font of mead, is the shining mystery, the gift that is mead, being that mysterious communal liquid that kind of initiates into the mystery is, you know, throughout lore and deeply connected to our culture.

03:07:04.380 So the idea of the Shining Rune being the Shining Mystery, it is a, I think, a very fitting name for what Mead is, potentially.

03:07:17.760 Kind of more of the poetic and romantic version of what Mead could be if you don't fall into folly.

03:07:25.620 Another interesting thing about this here is the usage of the word Lerov.

03:07:31.140 Leroth is Yggdrasil. This is another name for Yggdrasil. Of course, Yggdrasil is the name of

03:07:44.440 the great ash tree in the center of the heavens, and that is why it's spoken of as here the branches

03:07:51.580 extend over Ausgard. It's so big that the branches extend over Ausgard, and Hedrun is standing on top

03:08:00.940 of the hall of valhall nibbling on the branches of the tree um it's not the top of the tree and

03:08:09.900 then like the roots are way down in the underworld and no the tree is in heaven it's in the center of

03:08:15.480 the cosmological circulatory system if you will and valhall is so tall that the mead goat can

03:08:26.880 nibble at the leaves of Yggdrasil from the top of the of the hall and that's the point is to make

03:08:34.400 it like whoa another thing that's worth noting too is why it might be on the top of the the hall

03:08:40.020 is generally there were smoke um grooves in which there is smoke and fire would be able to be

03:08:47.700 released from the halls and that was a place of dripping of rain and so in essence it's like

03:08:54.340 instead of it raining uh water in through the the smoke stack of of the hall nope it comes from

03:09:05.380 uh heathro and the magical goat that is just it's not water it's mead literally dripping from the

03:09:12.980 ceiling um and the pictures you know she fills uh with fair clean mead and never fails the foaming

03:09:20.980 drink so i mean again that the the magic of that is is very very important and and the way it's

03:09:28.020 placed and understanding like yggdrasil's rooting itself in heaven and expands over oscar than it

03:09:35.060 like oscar there like lives in the shade of the tree and so tall is valhall that heather and

03:09:41.780 can nibble it leaves all right well with that we're gonna put a pin in our study of the text

03:09:49.780 for tonight we'll move on to the questions that we've got from y'all and we will do another

03:09:57.140 another episode of this next week think that should finish us off but we'll see where the

03:10:04.660 journey takes us um in the meantime the wolf throne asks do you guys have anything special

03:10:11.060 playing for the 100th episode of victory never sleeps got some ideas but uh stay tuned i believe

03:10:18.420 That's going to be on, what, June?

03:10:28.200 I don't know.

03:10:31.540 I got a math.

03:10:32.560 So, like June 5th, I think.

03:10:42.660 Anyways, stay tuned, and it's hard to believe we're almost 100 episodes in.

03:10:47.200 this is 94 tonight um john h says i've identified some practitioners of the north pantheon in my

03:10:58.640 neighborhood and i have lightly told them about our north carolina hof am i allowed to bring them

03:11:05.760 to see if they like it um general answer is sure of course you can um of course you can in general

03:11:16.560 What you ought to do, though, is reach out to Witten Daniel Young, dyoung at runestone.org, and, you know, let him know what we like to do if we know we have guests showing up, and this doesn't, you know, have to be intrusive at all.

03:11:36.000 If we know their names, we like to run them through a sex offender check just to make sure they're safe for families and whatnot.

03:11:43.340 um if we know they're coming that's that's great you can certainly bring them i think that

03:11:54.060 some fundamentals um if they are interested in being members or if you are interested in them

03:12:01.420 becoming members is that they meet the basic criteria of that being that they're heterosexual

03:12:08.780 white folks if that is the case then uh then yeah bring them by that's awesome we would love to have

03:12:15.900 more people visit our hofs they are certainly open to have people come visit and check them out uh we

03:12:22.060 don't always have people there so if you want to do it it's good to get with the folk builder in

03:12:27.180 the area so that somebody can let you guys in and show you stuff or better yet so that you can arrange

03:12:33.500 to do that at one of our holy tides

03:12:35.740 where we have people there.

03:12:39.600 Wolfthrone says,

03:12:40.780 Svon, you mentioned Europe being a Semitic word.

03:12:45.120 I'd never heard of this before,

03:12:46.980 so I tried looking into it

03:12:48.200 and found that it's just one of several hypotheses

03:12:51.780 by scholars and that your original word is unclear.

03:12:56.620 I always thought it was a Greek word.

03:12:58.520 Can you touch more on this?

03:13:00.500 yeah um so i'm of the mindset that the inclination that languages oftentimes don't just

03:13:13.900 completely rename but kind of change or shift names especially ones that come outside of their

03:13:21.320 their sphere. And, um, yeah, so the, the, the theory is, is that Europa comes from an Akkadian

03:13:30.480 word, uh, Erebu, which means to set in the West or to set westerly. And it is a, um, it is a,

03:13:39.800 a theory because again, the, um, the Europe, Europa from the Greek sense, um, meaning, uh,

03:13:49.600 um wide-eyed uh urius uh broad-faced or wide-eyed would have a sense with maybe perhaps a descriptor

03:13:58.960 of her um but again at the end of the day i mean she is a phoenician queen from the levant um and

03:14:09.280 the usage of her name um especially i know the strangest place it got leveled at me was amongst

03:14:18.800 some Christian identity, um, folks trying to say that, um, that the Phoenicians were not Semitic

03:14:27.400 people, but actually Arians. And, um, that I don't, I don't believe, and I don't agree with.

03:14:35.980 And, um, and I, I think again, their desperation to connect those two in order to ultimately make,

03:14:43.160 uh Yahshua um of the um family of Benjamin not make him not a Semite but an Arian and again

03:14:52.920 that the hoops are long and varied and crazy and wide um but I I definitely think that there was a

03:14:59.920 great amount of influence from the Phoenicians to the Greeks um and I was just discussing this

03:15:08.760 recently because um like one of the strangest things i i you know found about was like the

03:15:15.160 etruscans not being entire entirely of um arian stock and um that their language doesn't originate

03:15:25.000 in an arian sense but yet they did structure the religion like they're the surrounding arian folk

03:15:33.000 and they did start to formulate their imagery and religion religiosity i think they they blended and

03:15:39.800 i think the greeks and the phoenicians eventually blended heavily there and um you know that at that

03:15:46.280 time especially with them moving you know westward so i never really liked the term

03:15:54.440 just as an uh the possibility of it being an akkadian name and again it's it is debated

03:16:00.600 you're a 100 i i'm more or less swinging an opinion on the end of that that i believe that

03:16:07.480 it is of its a semitic origin and i always found that to be um something that i mean it is the name

03:16:15.080 of the place that everyone knows now but uh you know to to call it a the our whole it is our holy

03:16:21.880 land that we we attained and and grew into and we are of and i you know uh i don't know i i

03:16:29.880 romantically or i know that's funny to say roman but i or i i romanticize the idea of of what it

03:16:36.200 would be called in our own tongue whether it was you know the place of all men like um you know

03:16:43.320 allaman land or or what have you um or you know the the the fatherland the folk land whatever it

03:16:50.440 may be but i just always kind of not sat quite right with europa uh in particular too because of

03:16:59.080 that intermixing that the greeks started heavily doing with the um the what were they the canaanites

03:17:07.320 the phoenicians were technically uh canaanites in the bible um and they were of the akkadian branches

03:17:15.640 of the semitic people so that's kind of the reason behind it but you are correct i can't

03:17:22.120 honest it's kind of like celts and the the people of pants it is heavily implied and

03:17:28.840 i think it has origin and logic towards it but i i can't say 100 percent

03:17:39.080 all right so another spawn question do you know which river would be the one of the dead

03:17:45.640 I distinctly remember, this is from Chris Lukat, I distinctly remember a frozen river in my near-death dream.

03:17:58.800 Ooh.

03:18:01.080 Yes, so me and Chris got a chance to talk, so for those that are listening, he had a very near-death experience,

03:18:08.980 And I think that he was, I don't know if it's a blessing, but given glimpse of a point of turnaround, if you will.

03:18:20.460 So the river of the dead, the closest that we have, and they are mentioned in the Grimnest Mallet when we talk about them.

03:18:28.720 There is technically two rivers, though I think the distinction between the two is irrelevant.

03:18:39.380 so there are rivers in the the nethering world the the nether hell um and they are stemming from

03:18:48.500 the yelmer the the well and they are called the alvegar now this is just a long roundabout way

03:18:54.340 of saying that there's many rivers that flow out of this well and two of them specifically

03:18:58.740 are mentioned when crossing the bridge that crosses over these rivers into the world where

03:19:06.260 beyond the veil beyond the the veil of of helheim's gates where the the folk souls

03:19:13.700 were is residing and where the the soul of our of our people go um the first one and remember too

03:19:21.380 the bridge is the most important you want the bridge the bridge is what leads you to your

03:19:26.420 ancestors um you have not been rebuked by them you have not been marked by the gods to be you know uh

03:19:33.300 um rebuked or or you know sent um away um it's the rivers the rivers are

03:19:43.380 what you get if you have been rebuked so i personally would take this as a sign of

03:19:52.040 turn your life around turn your ways around join your folk return to the the faith of your ancestors

03:20:00.400 know the gods make amends with your ancestors and live an honorable and glorious life

03:20:06.500 um because that looming those looming rivers that river of the dead that you're speaking of

03:20:12.700 and it's two and i'm we'll go into it more with uh later on in grimness but the the river

03:20:18.700 the river is translated by a lot of different people in a lot of different ways and i

03:20:24.420 My personal understanding of it is it survives in the word yelp when you hear someone yelp out.

03:20:32.960 And Gjol is the river of mournful cries.

03:20:37.320 And there is also the river Sleave, which is the icy river where the ice is so thick that it's like shards and swords.

03:20:46.920 And that the soul of the folk that pass through Gjöl and Sleed are no longer aware of themselves when they reach the other side.

03:20:57.820 And they become a specific type of flotsamed soul, completely left out of their ancestors.

03:21:07.560 And they enter into that beach, the nether beach, Naustrand, the beach of the dead.

03:21:12.340 And there they are, Vargr, ever destined and doomed to consume themselves over and over again until Ragnarok, when the kinslayer takes his boat and levels his ride upwards towards heaven.

03:21:34.940 and that is uh that is that just a terrible place to be but just seeing the rivers themselves i'm

03:21:42.640 not saying that you particularly are doomed or anything of that nature at all what i'm just

03:21:47.180 saying is that the rivers symbolically are 100 like turning you want the bridge you don't want

03:21:54.440 the rivers to see the rivers is a reminder we must strive to live correctly in accordance

03:22:03.900 I'm not also saying that, you know, like your Christian ancestors have gone to death's beach.

03:22:09.740 Not at all.

03:22:10.500 I think that's not the case.

03:22:11.840 I think that once we do pass on those of us who do know the truth, pass on to our ancestors and see them and are guided to them.

03:22:21.960 And those, whether they're Christian or not, gain the same thing.

03:22:25.860 It's that you have to be particularly a needling, a terrible creature that is marked by the gods or marked by your ancestors as being unfit to continue in the cosmological connections of being able to attain that root that is Yggdrasil.

03:22:47.920 And that's where the ancestors, again, had their ability to connect to the gods.

03:22:53.400 That's their connection in the cosmos, is that the folk soul, where we go, where our souls go, as individuals, are connected to the other realms via Yggdrasil.

03:23:08.660 I'm not saying it's like a jump in the pool and go up the slide.

03:23:13.580 What I am saying is that it's symbolic of the connection over it

03:23:21.060 And actually that wanted me to bring up one other point

03:23:23.820 The name Leherder that was mentioned about Yggdrasil

03:23:28.620 A lot of times you'll get translations about the word harm

03:23:32.640 But the word Leher or Leher is like a leg

03:23:38.080 And I believe that Leherder means the rooted one

03:23:43.060 um some people you know say it's the giver of protection some say it's the it's the the

03:23:49.420 betraying one in reference to lord odin's sacrifice but the leg of um someone is called

03:23:56.920 a layer and so i often refer to that that the roots are like legs they they it's connected

03:24:03.820 so it's the wide rooted one or the long legged one if you will um that reaches into all the

03:24:12.660 realms has its connections even though it is in heaven and those roots disappear and you know

03:24:20.740 where they end up few know um but yes that's that's the the the rivers of the dead

03:24:28.360 the mournful the river of mournful cries and the cruel river are what they are called

03:24:37.240 um

03:24:40.420 the

03:24:42.880 elevalgar are

03:24:51.060 also the icy

03:24:53.060 waves yes that are

03:24:54.880 frozen rivers or

03:24:56.880 ice rivers

03:24:57.780 in the mythology too

03:25:00.900 I don't think that goes exactly with what

03:25:03.020 you're asking certainly what Svon's talking

03:25:04.980 about is much closer to the question

03:25:07.780 but it's also to point out that there's other like ice rivers that aren't so much that in

03:25:14.260 fact one of those is one of the rivers that thor crosses to ascend into uh ausgar there

03:25:23.460 yeah the uh one of the 11 rivers of heaven uh actually it's two rivers it's cormth and ormth

03:25:30.340 um and that's again when we go into the rivers of heaven and middle the midgard and the under

03:25:35.380 but the alvegar the reason why those two specifically is because it's mentioned

03:25:40.900 that the bridge in helgard crosses over these rivers um the the the the bridge itself that

03:25:52.660 brings you to your ancestors that threshold where mordguth the um joteness of that is the defender

03:26:00.740 of the bridge she's the one that says you must take the path below and walk down to the banks

03:26:07.060 of those river and and cross through them without a bridge or you gain the bridge if you gain your

03:26:14.020 ancestors so that's why those two specifically yeah no absolutely and it's so a big part of that

03:26:28.180 idea for folks that do end up on the strand is disillusion of the soul and it talks about

03:26:35.220 how bat river in particular goes to like the valleys of venom venom is is uh

03:26:48.260 it's the word i'm looking for a uh dissolving agent no there yeah there's a better word but yeah

03:26:56.420 it's the idea of that disillusion but that's one of those interesting things

03:27:04.580 visions of that are kind of a cool heads up you know doing that doesn't indicate that's where

03:27:13.380 that's one of the big uh concepts in our faith that i think is important to uh make note of um

03:27:21.220 there is a misinterpretation that everything is faded as in it's a hundred percent predestined

03:27:31.660 to occur and that's not the case when things have a a fate to them that means they have a trajectory

03:27:40.060 but when you know and you see the trajectory you have the ability to alter that it's important I

03:27:48.640 I think in the way that the norn of the future, for lack of a better sense, isn't like must, but is scold, is etymologically the root of should, is what should happen.

03:28:11.480 so it's it's a projection much more than it's a set in stone has to go that way you have the

03:28:18.440 ability to alter the fate that you see coming if you if you know it if you see it in time

03:28:28.520 and so that's that's a good indication you know i would interpret that as a good indication to

03:28:37.160 you know rectify things that need be rectified and get you know adjust your your path accordingly um

03:28:48.040 well i wanted to break up one thing um they will actually come at you and say

03:28:55.480 well the bridge is called you know gyaller brew which means the the noisy bridge or the

03:29:01.960 bridge over the noisy river and gill of course being the the river of cries or the river of

03:29:07.160 crying out um you know is that so the bridge goes over gill so there's only one river and it's gill

03:29:14.760 and that is correct but it's also mentioned that slither a river full of knives is also crossed

03:29:26.360 by those who you know break the oaths and um you know commit terrible acts so

03:29:34.680 i think poetically there has been two usages of it and so i often say that there are two rivers

03:29:40.680 and again oftentimes the pairing of rivers is done and i i kind of take slither and goal goal

03:29:49.000 Gjöl in comparison to Kormt and Ormp, which are twin rivers sourced from the same place

03:29:55.240 in heaven. And I, you know, so it's not outside of the understanding of it. But yeah, if you're

03:30:03.300 looking for a specific river of the dead singularly, I would say Gjöl, but Slydr is also

03:30:09.700 there and the bridge crosses over it. It's just that Gjöl is the first river.

03:30:15.440 well and when the well actuallys push up their glasses and like wow you see

03:30:24.640 the rivers are symbolic and tell us something you're not like trying to walk over a rickety

03:30:30.800 bridge over actual water to like right chill on a beach of corp with like dead bodies on it

03:30:39.520 this is imagery that teaches us truths the end of the day one river two rivers it's not the point

03:30:49.680 um don't you know don't miss the forest for the trees yeah the the bifurcation of the path of the

03:30:59.340 soul um the soul that is uh that the ancestors rebuke or the the soul that the gods condemn

03:31:09.540 finds the bifurcation to go into the nether path and that is the path through the rivers

03:31:16.020 without a bridge it's the so the bridge is that symbol of of having a clean and clear connection

03:31:23.860 versus having to fare because now you're no longer you're outlandish you're uh you're

03:31:30.180 you're out guard you're no longer given the the afforded comforts of of being within

03:31:39.540 if you got to try to ford the rivers you you know how that goes if you played oregon trail

03:31:48.500 all right so from finn wraith in some languages the word heaven and sky

03:31:53.300 are the same word is that with icelandic and old norse too

03:32:00.820 um no but yes no in the sense that the word sky is also a word in old norse

03:32:08.580 literally meaning the sky uh hymen is more of the heavenly expanse so again it does refer to the

03:32:15.620 upper world um uh so it is the upper world versus simply the sky um and again those those two words

03:32:32.260 exist i think they're they're coexisting but hymenya has far more of a meaning than just

03:32:37.620 beyond that which the the eagle soars this is beyond where the eagle soars it's the it's the

03:32:43.940 the expanse above um the starry expanse the place above and again it's never really quite specified

03:32:51.940 it is seen that the that the the house live in the central and the upper they don't live just

03:32:58.980 in the sky they live in the the expanse the place above correct me if i'm wrong but it's

03:33:06.740 similar to how it's come to us in english like where the planes are that's like blue with clouds

03:33:17.300 is the sky if you gaze up into the heavens

03:33:24.900 that's the sky too but it's also like space and looking up at the milky way and like looking up

03:33:32.660 into infinity yeah it's and it it has that um because they use the words like of of height

03:33:41.780 not meaning title but meaning of great elevation um sky and heavenly expanse

03:33:49.220 so it does kind of it does mean sky but it means more it means um a greater sense

03:33:56.340 um also from finn wraith where do you think the afa will be in another few decades um so

03:34:11.220 interesting question because i want to be maximally positive and hopeful so i don't want to like set

03:34:19.460 limitations on it but i also you know when people ask me questions

03:34:25.700 here on victory never sleeps i want to give a a real honest answer um

03:34:34.660 so i hope for much much more than this but conservatively uh in the next few decades so

03:34:44.340 you know let's let's call it few let's call it two so the next well few let's call it like three

03:34:49.700 next 30 years i would really like to see the afa um finish our first 12 puffs out i think i'd like

03:35:01.620 to see that in the next 30 years and i think that's very doable in 30 years i feel that we'll

03:35:09.940 have a thriving community at sigerheimer i think that we will have tiershoff there absolutely i

03:35:19.460 think we'll also have the great hall there which will be an awesome place to spend my days doing

03:35:27.140 afa work and i think we'll also be well on our way within 30 years of having spots and situations

03:35:35.540 there both for visitors and for um the elderly the infirmed folks that that need a place to be

03:35:43.940 with loving folks to take care of them i think we'll have that situation set up there a little

03:35:48.580 bit better with the next 30 years certainly um i'd within 30 years i'd like to get past that first

03:36:00.500 12 i think within 30 years we can probably also have a hoff to uh frigg and freya and i think

03:36:10.020 we'll be at the point of figuring out what we're doing next as far as naming and dedicating hoffs

03:36:16.740 i'd like to see those be spread out to where they're closer to a whole you know it goes

03:36:24.180 without saying but to a lot more of our folks um by then i hope one of those hoffs is outside

03:36:31.620 of the united states but we'll see it all depends on how that works i think by the next 30 years

03:36:41.620 again with the way stuff's going it's hard to tell but i would really like to see our membership

03:36:48.260 in the 10 000 plus range and i think that's extremely ambitious um but getting there to

03:37:02.560 getting in that like five digit range i don't think is outside the realm of possibility because

03:37:09.380 i think when you hit a certain level the growth becomes a little bit more exponential so i'd like

03:37:14.880 to see that i've said this a lot but i think that one of the big things that um restricts our growth

03:37:22.720 at present is so many people who would be here and should be here simply don't know that we exist

03:37:31.200 and it's hard with current woke uh throttling back our ability to use social media and

03:37:39.280 conventional outlets it's harder for us to get our message to more people so i really hope everybody

03:37:46.640 is sharing this with folks and helping bump up the algorithm for it so more people can see it

03:37:52.880 but i think we have a ton of people that would love to come home that simply don't

03:37:56.640 know we exist and that it's an option so that's something i really see in the next 30 years

03:38:02.880 30 years from today, the AFA will be almost 60 years old.

03:38:11.280 We are in our 30th year right now, so we'll be in our 60th year then.

03:38:22.660 I think that by then, in our growth, we'll have a lot of redundancy in some areas that

03:38:29.880 we don't currently have a lot of redundancy and we'll have a big enough spread of really devoted

03:38:35.560 volunteers to where we'll have more stuff to do one of the things i was talking about with the

03:38:42.520 whitten on our last um whitten meeting and i've talked about this with a lot of folks

03:38:47.720 i am going to be perpetually dissatisfied with the amount of amazing volunteers we have

03:38:54.040 just because of how i'm built um no matter how many amazing people that we have or how much

03:39:01.880 resources we have the mission of the afa will always be greater than our resources and

03:39:14.600 it's because ambition is important because we are trying to be worthy of our gods and

03:39:20.280 our gods are great and amazing and some of our goals are impossible to reach so it's one of

03:39:26.920 those things is you aim for the stars whether you can get there or not because you're going

03:39:33.080 to end up closer so we always have a much grander vision of what we want to see than what we're

03:39:40.200 capable of doing at present and i think that's a good thing and it's something we'll always have

03:39:46.600 If we had, you know, pick a number of funds or members or any level of bigness as far as either greatness or grandiosity or anything else, we will always want more because our gods always deserve better.

03:40:07.760 Our descendants always deserve better. No matter how great we become, we should be more.

03:40:17.160 and that's part of victory never sleeps you don't ever rest on what you've accomplished

03:40:22.680 you're always looking for more wins winning is about continuing and trying and always moving

03:40:28.680 forward and that applies just as much if you're you know flat on your face or if you feel like

03:40:35.400 you're on top of the world there's always more to do um also from finn wraith were there dogs

03:40:49.720 in the lore since they are kind of man-trained wolf garm is the only one i am familiar with

03:40:57.640 off the top of my head are you familiar with more than that

03:41:01.320 No, just off the top of my head, the hound, Garamber, as being the threshold denizen of Nipah's cave, the rising place in which the souls recede outside of the realm of time.

03:41:18.300 They go through this threshold and then enter into a place that is, again, away from the pinnacle of the gods above.

03:41:28.020 um but i think that that question came about during the time of um gary and frecky and the

03:41:37.520 idea of them being actual wolves or being wolf trained to dogs um i mean i think the application

03:41:43.700 of the idea is still kind of the same the fact that we took the wild and domesticated it and

03:41:50.380 made it useful is, again, a tenant towards the mastery of the folk over wild. But as far as it

03:41:59.700 being stated as a hundur or a dog or a hound, Garmer is the only one that immediately comes to mind.

03:42:09.180 all right and then to uh what about midgard as a name for europe is it ever specified whether

03:42:25.920 midgard is the entire world or just the land of aryans um go ahead and take a swing at this first

03:42:36.120 oh i mean i think that this doesn't go outside of any conceptualizations even the chinese did it

03:42:42.740 where they were the you know the central kingdom they were the place in the center of things um i

03:42:48.860 think all folk um as far as arian folk goes uh could possibly argue as to where the boundaries

03:42:58.160 of that might be but um no i mean midgard i've always again taken as the place of the material

03:43:05.980 the place of the middle, the place in which the descendancy of cosmic order meets natural law,

03:43:15.400 and it takes place here. Of course, with the influxing of resistance and primordial powers

03:43:23.600 from the east, from Jotunheim, the Midgard is the place where it takes. I don't know,

03:43:30.780 the you know i i don't know i've i've thought about it a lot i don't know exactly where to go

03:43:40.080 with it in the idea of understanding because i have made mention you know it's like i i've i've

03:43:45.560 told um people that i've debated with you know like the holy land that you're striving for is

03:43:52.680 the levant it's in the middle east how can you not see that your religion is built around you

03:43:59.360 know, Messiah worship. It is Semitic. Its language is Semitic. Its books are Semitic. And yet still

03:44:05.780 they try to change it, that it's European and Aryan. And it just blows my mind. But the idea,

03:44:13.680 the real reason of wanting to step away and name the land or name the grounds upon which we

03:44:21.900 exist as being a name more congruent with our language is a is a a novel idea at really at

03:44:29.740 the best it is europe because that is what everyone knows of it as is now but you know

03:44:36.780 just kind of playing with it is more or less what i um what i was going with i don't think it's

03:44:43.820 really of any use to to grind over it no i think one of the fundamentals is just the concept

03:44:50.860 of our lore um as i said earlier like our lore is a way to better understand the gods and our

03:45:01.980 relationship to them it's not an accurate treatise on geography like there's not

03:45:11.020 mythologically Midgard is bordered by Jormungandr encircling the world to our ancestors Midgard is

03:45:24.520 wherever our folk are it is the here and the now space that we exist in in the physical world

03:45:33.400 and that expands and contracts depending on where the folk are it's just as much Europe as it is

03:45:40.700 the united states as it was you know aria varta or you know hyperborea or wherever our folk were

03:45:50.780 as it will be the entire world if we you know it was all under our sway it's the land of our folk

03:45:57.340 where we're at it is more about our existence in the physical world than it is about the borders

03:46:04.540 of a specific geographical location again our mythos transcends the physical to be something

03:46:14.460 something more than that and the more we try to put you know our logical boundaries on the more

03:46:23.180 we start getting into as someone literally asked me one time like thor's macros like that's not

03:46:31.420 the point like how does he get to be that swole what does he gotta eat it it's that misses the

03:46:38.940 point and this person was super serious like he was trying to figure that out he's like well thor

03:46:45.180 ate this many oxen at this giant's feast so like what does that mean that's good oh my goodness

03:46:50.780 that's like 10 000 grams of protein what the that's not how it works and the more we try to

03:47:00.060 put that into our understanding of it the less we we get there

03:47:13.420 the next question with our religious calendar being in a clock shape

03:47:19.420 would it be at all inaccurate to say that our years are the god's days

03:47:24.060 days why would you say that oh wait the gods did say God's days yeah

03:47:36.900 oh what again to try to specify time as if the the measure of of time of one of our

03:47:45.000 equals one day of the gods or whatever that might be i don't know why we would do that other than

03:47:56.360 if that's a poetic expression that the god's sense of time is more vast than ours

03:48:05.240 or something but i don't know why one would be compelled to try to measure it in that way

03:48:15.880 the one thing i would i always try to expound upon is that the ever turning the the the the

03:48:25.560 millstrom the mundal fari of it all is that the gods exude above it and that it descends down

03:48:33.480 that the cyclical nature of the middle world descends from the zenith of the gods from the

03:48:41.000 central point from yggdrasil from that center point it all mills down so again the gods are

03:48:50.920 above time that time and its effects that weird and or law or just or law if you want to go

03:48:58.280 in the totality of it or law that descends from that place as a zenith point spirals and mills

03:49:04.840 down into the middle and there it is connected to the influential factors so therefore the

03:49:10.600 gods are above and it's interesting when we talk about the places in between like eos alheimer

03:49:17.480 or how heimdall is kind of again in between um those thresholds are interesting and the thresholds

03:49:24.280 between the heavenly outside of time and when they pass through liminal space and go down into the

03:49:31.400 primordial um and into jodenheim so i i would say it's it would be even more congruent to look at it

03:49:42.120 as that from that pinnacle point they are around it and above it or outside of it and that moving

03:49:50.600 into it then you can paradigm the idea of what a day is to a god or what have you um but outside

03:49:58.760 of that i think they're you know they're above it they're above it i don't think that's the

03:50:03.240 right context for the question and i think that you know even i'm familiar with you know jewish

03:50:12.600 lore that talks about that kind of a conception but even in that sense it's more to say that

03:50:19.240 their god you know is timeless or exists in like incalculable amounts of time

03:50:27.240 it's much like you know how many doors are in you know how many rooms are in thor's hall it's not an

03:50:34.680 exact you know building plan it's there's lots and lots of rooms there um so you know certainly our

03:50:43.480 gods are are ancient and their scope of time is much bigger than ours but but but rejecting that

03:50:54.200 paradigm like swan says our gods are above and outside of time they exist as i've like as i've

03:51:00.760 called it in mythic time they exist in their own thing where our conceptions of past present and

03:51:07.640 future don't have the same bearing or meaning to them our gods are certainly aware of time as it

03:51:15.240 exists to us as part of their divine wisdom they understand that and where we are in time

03:51:21.800 but their position is is outside of that and conceived in a very different way

03:51:31.720 he expounded on it a little bit here and i think he is going in a different direction than perhaps

03:51:38.040 the way we took it i see more i see more coming through now yeah so what he added was i was

03:51:44.520 meaning more in just how the year works i'm seeing winter is night uh because i've heard you will be

03:51:51.240 said as midnight and our star celebration is a dawn and summer being daytime am i off the mark

03:51:58.840 i don't think so so this brings it back in and i apologize for any misunderstanding of the

03:52:04.120 the previous you know question asked i appreciate you clarifying um

03:52:08.600 i think that's a poetic way of putting it as far as like you know one of the god's days i don't

03:52:18.200 know that it works that exactly or that cleanly but yes very much there is a

03:52:25.640 connection between those things um very much spring is the dawning of the new year very much

03:52:34.360 yeah yes with all of the things that you're saying there is that correlation the year

03:52:41.000 is the day writ large i guess as it were and and i think that's a kind of a neat uh

03:52:49.400 neat way you put it or conceived of it there i i've heard of each of those pieces separately i

03:52:55.800 have not thought of it together until you just kind of brought it up that way but i think it

03:53:00.360 yeah i think i think that you're spot on with that yeah we had made mention of um if if mundul

03:53:09.000 fari is the source of the sun and the moon the the twisting of of orlog that becomes time and

03:53:16.280 progression and movement all things move in accordance and yes the year is like a reflection

03:53:22.120 of that as well i mean that's why our ancestors originally thought of winter nights as being the

03:53:27.640 new year because they back then counted the day at sunset so winter nights or uh was held in

03:53:37.080 fall for lack of a better word um and uh they considered that sunset and since everybody was

03:53:44.040 up and witnessed the sunset that was the beginning of the next day but that that correlation of

03:53:50.120 timekeeping has changed we now know through being able to measure and we consider midnight to be

03:53:56.280 the new turning of the of the next day so in in a way it fits that yule has shifted to

03:54:03.080 kind of be the new year celebration uh much to the chagrin i think of of um the internet

03:54:10.120 warriors of the world sometimes um but yeah it's acknowledging that yes the reason why

03:54:16.440 is because they correlated the year just like the day the the macro and the micro

03:54:22.680 are in congruence because again once it spins out from earth's well and down into the material into

03:54:29.800 the middle world it all becomes part of that rotational mimicry the internet warlords kind

03:54:37.720 of exist outside in a mythic time too because if you don't have a job and you're in your mom's

03:54:44.120 basement if you don't open the blinds you're going there it doesn't matter

03:54:49.000 on that note thank you guys for being here tonight with your questions

03:54:59.320 swan thank you for all of the wisdom that you that you add into here every time you have you on

03:55:05.800 thank you for having me on again well i look forward to doing it again next week

03:55:11.640 um i think next week probably will be the conclusion but we'll see yeah i think we'll make

03:55:16.680 it this has been great i love going through this lore with you and with our folk who are joining us

03:55:23.080 in the chat um i think this is really good and i'm glad we're doing it go by everybody listen to

03:55:30.280 this go by check out the store we've got merch i don't know we're working on it we're experimenting

03:55:38.360 with a bunch of different things so this as it is now i don't know how much longer we got it

03:55:42.680 so get stuff while the getting's good but we will endeavor to keep the store stock with cool things

03:55:49.160 and get better about that in the future had a little hiccup the last year as far as our store

03:55:54.580 goes we're working on it um until next time when we see you hail the icer hail the folk

03:56:02.580 hail the afa remember victory never sleeps bye everybody

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Asatru Folk Assembly - April 25, 2024

4⧸24⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 94 - Grímnismál, Part 1

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