00:03:00.000Hello, and welcome to this week's exciting edition of Victory Never Sleeps.
00:03:12.660My guest should be joining us momentarily.
00:03:16.700Um, so we had a lot of very, I don't know, occasions to celebrate in the month of March at Thorshof for their annual Ostara celebration.
00:03:38.840we performed the naming of a baby we awarded the folk builder excellence award for the year 2024
00:03:53.920to folk builder tyler buffet we oathed in folk builder nicholas gunn of eastern or uh yeah eastern
00:04:05.140Washington, and I had the pleasure, and this is the first time we've done this in a little
00:04:11.960while, of ordaining two new Gothar to be priest and priestess of our Aesir.
00:04:23.600Now, Githya Heather Young of South Carolina and Gothi Jonathan Rock of Indiana.
00:04:31.180Now, Gauthier Rock will be joining us this evening, hopefully giving you all a chance to talk to him,
00:04:39.020to get to know him a little bit, to get him to talk on some of the things he's got going on in the area
00:04:45.020and some things beneficial for our folk in general.
00:04:50.120So that's kind of the plan this evening.
00:04:51.820Um, I would also like to, I guess, start the show by showing appreciation once again for a $30 donation from, uh, G.W. Farnsworth donates weekly to the program, uh, for quite some time now.
00:05:15.740very generous donor we appreciate you so much thank you uh anybody that would like to donate
00:05:22.460runestone.org backslash donate um i guess just slash donate um
00:05:32.940i guess while we're on that theme the first thing i'd like to do is talk a little bit about our
00:05:38.620progress on paying off nords off i'm gonna ramp up the fundraising push for it because
00:05:47.420we are gaining momentum i am eager to get this all the way paid off so that we can look for
00:05:55.820phrasehoff and get that happening it is tantalizingly close now one month ago we owed
00:06:03.900$52,000 and change. Today, we owe $46,234. So I would love to see what progress can be made
00:06:15.800on that during the course of this program. It would be fantastic. But we're trying the best
00:06:22.300we can to keep that momentum going. This comes out now to $64 per AFA member would have the
00:06:30.980thing paid off immediately. But all that said, you guys have been extremely generous when it
00:06:37.780comes to this. For a church our size to pay off, it's been two and a half years, we've been able
00:06:52.040to pay off $198,766 of this debt so far in that time, that is an enormous amount that we've been
00:07:04.740able to generate due to your guys' generosity. It is much appreciated, and it is a testament to
00:08:11.360I believe, of the original stock of heroes that were honored with Days of Remembrance back, I believe, in the 1980s.
00:08:19.780We celebrate him for his loyalty and his steadfast insistence on living his life in Troth of the Aesir,
00:08:31.580and for his time keeping the domains under his control loyal to the Aesir.
00:08:36.660So we celebrate him, a warrior, a leader, and a proud Alcetur.
00:08:44.560but this is followed up this month tomorrow by a day of remembrance for John Ewell also known as
00:08:54.640Stova who was one of the one of the founders and driving forces of the Odinic right back when that
00:09:05.200when that organization was a vibrant force in bringing our folk back to trough with the Iser
00:09:13.740He lived a very interesting life that spanned very interesting times, and he put his energy towards restoring the bonds of our folk, of his countrymen, of Englishmen in general, or in specific, to Troth, to the Aesir, and specifically to the All-Father.
00:09:40.340So we celebrate him, we honor him, we appreciate the work that he put in.
00:09:46.620Those two things are certainly of note.
00:09:52.540We, over the last little bit, we've added significantly to the number of heroes that we are honoring with Days of Remembrance.
00:10:02.260And we have a few more for you that we will talk about in the coming months.
00:10:10.340The, I guess the, the special endeavor to find, find the names and the stories of heroes that have not gotten their proper due and raising them to proper celebration, worship, and honor after they've passed.
00:10:39.460is an important one to me personally and has been something that I think has been very beneficial
00:10:46.440to the Astro Folk Assembly and to us living up to the obligations of honor for those who paved the
00:10:55.240way for us to be where we're at. And something very near and dear to my heart. There's a number
00:11:00.780of other gentlemen. I say gentlemen, we do have some ladies, but of the upcoming crop, it's guys
00:11:08.540right now that we're talking about that we plan on honoring with their Days of Remembrance in the
00:11:12.960coming months. So I'm looking forward to talking about some of those with you as time moves forward.
00:11:20.800As you might can tell from my hemming and hawing, I'm trying to kill time waiting for
00:11:25.800Gauthier Jonathan to join us and be able to speak with y'all. But I will start chipping away at some
00:11:34.460of these questions, and he can join when he is, when he is able. First up, and I kind of already
00:11:46.320alluded to some of this, but Sarah asks, she says, good evening, Osheri Goethe, good evening, Sarah,
00:11:53.620and Goethe Rock. We have two Remembrance Days this week, Jarl Halkin, today, and Stubba tomorrow night.
00:12:02.060How will each of you be honoring these heroes?
00:12:06.340So I wish I had a big elaborate thing to discuss with you guys.
00:12:17.520First, going before the altar and pouring out a libation, lighting the incense,
00:12:28.080And both praying and making offering to celebrate them about them in front of the Iser is important, but also speaking and honoring to them is important.
00:12:50.160Speaking to them in appreciation and making offering is something that I plan to do.
00:12:56.060I would also like to, and it's challenging depending on the nature of the hero, explain, I don't know, tell the story of these guys in a way that is accessible and makes sense to my daughter.
00:13:10.660those of you may not know Aubrey is going to turn five next week so I'm very excited about that
00:13:18.480but it puts her in a spot where discussing some of the heroes can be a little bit abstract or
00:13:25.440more challenging so trying to talk about them a little bit and get them get their name familiar
00:13:32.240to her and have something that she can kind of touch stones to remember these people is something
00:14:04.460Remember, guys, that you are able to send questions
00:14:09.440at any literally anytime to uh vns at runestone.org and we'll get those we will compile them and we
00:14:18.640will answer them on the the next available opportunity so that's always a thing and
00:14:24.640we'll get it out there i know some people aren't able to ask questions live um
00:14:29.840Um, I will get to his question, but again, an attempt to kill time, just to let John
00:14:38.840get on, but I'll get to it in a second.
00:14:40.420The stuff that does need to get said, guys, if you are listening to this and you enjoy
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00:15:46.280like to do. And also another thing I'd like to say, and then we'll get off the plugs and I will
00:15:52.140get in the meat and taters here, whether, whether the Goethe shows or not, we will get his takes
00:15:58.120when he does arrive. But if you are listening to this show, if you are a heterosexual white person,
00:16:06.560And if you desire to forge or perhaps reforge a relationship between yourself and the Aesir, we would invite you to join us in the Ausitru Folk Assembly.
00:16:23.040This is a, say, really special time to the Ausitru.
00:16:29.420It's a very special time to be involved in the AFA.
00:16:31.740We've got a lot of projects, a lot of dreams, a lot of things that we are working to make happen.
00:16:40.440And we're seeing beautiful changes in our life, in our community, in our AFA family every day.
00:16:47.340We would love for you to be a part of that.
00:16:49.500So if you're on the fence, now's the time.
00:16:53.880Take that first step and join the Ask True Folk Assembly.
00:16:57.900With that, I will get to the question that I mentioned we got on the email.
00:17:03.120Tyler asks, Hey there, I imagine you talk to and counsel many people from different backgrounds who are interested in Ossetru.
00:17:13.180How do you counsel and help people who are former or questioning Christians that are interested in Ossetru, but still have lingering concerns from their old beliefs?
00:17:25.100For instance, how do you help them get past concerns about being wrong
00:17:31.240and facing eternal punishment from other guys?
00:18:11.540understanding relationships in general is you work from empathy by you know relating things
00:18:23.360internally to stuff that you've experienced and ways that you felt and i say that to say this
00:18:31.620I know what that's like. I didn't, um, I didn't abandon Christianity for Ausitru. I left Christianity because it was bad. And then I found Ausitru.
00:18:47.440so I get being scared of well what if I'm wrong
00:18:55.780I appreciate the benefit I had in coming to it
00:19:04.240not comparing and contrasting one to another and trying to
00:19:10.060see which one was true and which one wasn't true
00:19:14.320but only knowing one and having to decide even if this is true this is bad and not honorable
00:19:25.760if this is all there is then i actively choose to be on the other side of it and that was really
00:19:34.740scary uh because again at that point it wasn't like what if i'm wrong it's like i i am wrong
00:19:43.580or I am in opposition to the omnipotent God of the Christians.
00:19:51.500Wow, that's scary. What do I do? Where does that leave me?
00:19:55.980But it also, I did not want to live a life of hypocrisy.
00:20:04.660And some of that was a, you know, heroic, like, no, this is wrong and I take a stand against it.
00:20:11.180But another, which this may sound silly, was almost a respectful of Jehovah, of I'm not going to stand there and profess my loyalty and say that I believe things that I don't believe and try to somehow trick or con a God into believing my insincerity, you know, in the hopes that I can hedge my bets in the afterlife.
00:20:39.220life that's that's not a noble way to be in it's insulting it's not it's not right to do to myself
00:20:45.880it's not right to do to whatever deity I'm I'm being dishonest with or towards and so it was
00:20:54.820wrong and very very quickly after I left Christianity I discovered Alistair and I came
00:21:01.800but that was informative to me something that really has stood out to me was
00:21:12.600the stories of many of our heroes lots of our heroes especially our early heroes their
00:21:23.880the events in their life that earned them that ascension and that spot with remembrance days
00:21:31.240is how they reacted in the face of the onslaught of Christianity.
00:21:39.320And there was immense pressure on these people, often at the point of their very lives,
00:21:45.960to abandon the Iser and to become Christians.
00:21:52.600It is profoundly meaningful to me that their loyalty to the Iser was so strong
00:22:00.600that many of them willingly faced death or the high likelihood that ended in their death
00:22:08.100because of of that loyalty and because of their their honor when it comes to that and it
00:22:16.900it sets an example that i want to be able to look these men in the eye across the veil should i have
00:22:29.720the the honor and the opportunity and i can't look them in the eye if i wouldn't have that kind
00:22:38.920of loyalty and live nobly while in the presence of of great men who have paid that price so
00:22:49.960So, I think that helps out of, I don't know, just my dignity as a man of wanting to be worthy of being in the company of those people.
00:23:04.900I don't know, this is all dancing around the question.
00:23:08.100These are just things that occurred to me.
00:23:09.560Another thing on the subject, really specifically in the very first House of True observance I celebrated was the Day of Remembrance for King Ragbaugh of Frisier.
00:23:23.540He had gotten worn down by the arguments.
00:23:27.060It wasn't a theological thing for him at that point.
00:23:29.960The overwhelming pressure was too much, and he was preparing to be baptized, and with him baptized his country.
00:23:41.780And the last minute he asked, you know, okay, with all this stuff, but what about my ancestors?
00:23:49.900Where are they? What's going to happen to them?
00:23:52.880because even with the debates and the intellectualizing and the propaganda of the foe,
00:24:00.600he still, in his very bones, felt loyalty to his kin and where he came from.
00:24:07.640And the priest said, you know, oh, your ancestors, they were, you know, they were heathens0.98
00:24:12.560and they were devil worshipers and they're going to burn in hell for eternity.0.89
00:24:18.060And at that point, knowing that and being kind of intellectually convinced,0.99
00:24:21.960That might very well be the reality of it.
00:24:26.020He chose that he would rather spend eternity burning in hell with his noble ancestors than living in heaven with a parcel of beggars.
00:24:37.540And that meant a lot to me with how I came into the faith.
00:24:42.800And so that was the first observance that I celebrated.
00:24:46.760So this brings me to the real point of what you're asking.
00:24:51.960i don't try to beat them over the head with oh you're a coward if you don't do this i don't
00:25:04.760think that's particularly effective but i do try to appeal to them of the value in the eyes of the
00:25:12.760I seer, of them showing courage. Doing anything great in life takes a measure of courage.
00:25:21.160We are very quick to talk about courage in the abstract, but when it comes to applying it in
00:25:29.180our lives, it's much harder when you realize that courage doesn't exist without consequence.
00:25:37.360If you take the easy stand, that may be the right thing to do sometimes, seldom is, but it might be, but it's not a courageous thing.
00:25:49.680It's only courageous when it's not the easy thing, when there is the potential of consequence.
00:25:58.880So choosing is one of the inherent traits of noble people and of Aryan men and women.
00:26:07.360The ability to make a choice and be proud of the choice you made.
00:26:14.400If the only thing keeping you involved in Christianity or pulling you back perhaps towards Christianity is, wait, what if I'm wrong and will the Jewish God hurt me or punish me for betting wrong?
00:26:34.340that's not a noble way to live your life that's not a way to look your ancestors in the face
00:26:42.160to look yourself in the mirror or to look your children in the face
00:26:46.900if the values of christianity are abhorrent to you but the values of alsatru and of the iser
00:26:56.740appeal to you and speak to your soul to knowingly live ignobly just in case Jehovah is watching you
00:27:08.480I don't think a lot of people really think of it on that level I think
00:27:15.520they react because it's scary and I don't think that we do well to tell them it's not scary or
00:27:23.540it shouldn't be scary. That's the reality, and it is scary. Doing the right thing when it is scary,
00:27:33.800that's what earns the respect of the gods. It earns the respect of your ancestors. It
00:27:40.800earns the respect of those who know you. And I think every time
00:27:46.940any of us in our lives have approached a situation where we were scared
00:27:55.500but we went through with the thing we knew was right anyway in the face of fear
00:28:01.400on the other side of it we were proud on the other side of it we held our heads higher
00:28:09.620stuck our chests out more, and became better because of it, and I think that is the thing
00:28:18.200that I would urge them to do, and if they can't this time, then I'd urge them to come back and
00:28:26.560do that when they can. The combination of trying to urge them to be courageous, but also leaving
00:28:36.200the door open for them if they're not ready yet or if they can't yet those are the kind of
00:28:42.400direction those calls go and again the particulars the specifics the person i'm talking to
00:28:48.560all go into that but as a very very broad and general thing that's some of the way that i have
00:28:56.000counseled people who found themselves in that predicament some have shied away from it and
00:29:02.380returned to Christianity, and I've never heard from them again. Others were very thankful and
00:29:09.740stand today as my brothers and sisters in the Astro Folk Assembly. So, you know, it's not a
00:29:15.580foolproof answer, but it is one that has been very beneficial in a lot of circumstances.
00:29:25.480So I'm going to briefly see if I have any indication of what is going on with our guests,
00:29:31.380and if we need to recruit a stand-in guest.
00:30:02.260and it wasn't on victory never sleeps it was my monthly uh forget what they were called but
00:30:08.420monthly i would get on here and do a live where i would answer questions and i would talk to folks
00:30:14.020and i really loved doing that um but yeah so in doing that i had the luxury of being able to
00:30:23.620win my guests or okay so not doing that if you would have seen me do that
00:30:28.020you would have noticed all of the awkward pauses now i have the luxury of being able to
00:30:35.700do the little look on the side look in the chat room look for any communication from
00:30:41.300my amazing producer nick while my guest is talking now i've got to kind of awkwardly do
00:30:49.140some of those things while there's there's dead air or there's me babbling and losing my place
00:30:55.140as i check them but working on it um our next situation
00:31:05.540uh so try to find one that's not john specific cool so rachel asks could you please uh theory
00:31:13.220comes anyways it's very dark over there john so i'm gonna ask this question while he gets his
00:31:21.140lighting set up could you please illuminate some uh ironic so could you please illuminate some
00:31:27.140recent nomenclature changes what is the relationship of ostara to austra and hex not to norman not so
00:31:35.380absolutely um we are still not done with little changes here and there but what we have been
00:31:44.180doing over time this is a this is a meta thing over over the course of years we've talked about
00:31:58.740how also true is a living faith and we want to always be doing our very best to get it right
00:32:07.060we also know that no matter how hard we try to get it right we will never get it perfect
00:32:16.300but we want to always trend closer and closer and closer and closer to that perfection
00:32:23.200we always want to strive for that perfection i've often said on here that
00:32:30.460you know from beyond the veil when i look back and see you know
00:32:37.060I'll hear you go through number five or number six.
00:32:41.580I really hope that they are doing this so much better than I am, so much better than we are today.
00:32:50.920I hope they have advanced in ways that we haven't even thought of.
00:32:54.940I hope that through that amount of time of the gift cycle, they have come to know the Aesir better and build those relationships full of victory and revelations and dreams manifesting before them in ways we couldn't even conceive of.
00:33:19.020we put them on that course and propelled them towards that by doing the very best
00:33:26.260today that we can to get stuff right so when we look at the astrofolk assembly's holidays
00:34:41.220And if my answer seems meandering, please let me know if I can clarify.
00:34:49.280But I think that there's not a right way to do it without some of the side pieces.
00:34:53.080I've also mentioned how the more your life is cohesive and the more all of the pieces fit and synergize with one another, the better everything works.
00:35:11.300The more whole, the more hail, as our ancestors might have said, your life, your person, and your experience in the world is.
00:35:28.780So to do that, rather than have, when I say eclectic, I don't mean eclectic in a, you know, global diversity sense.
00:35:39.500But I mean eclectic in a trying to piece fragmentary things together over the course of centuries and over the course of thousands upon thousands of square miles.
00:35:53.080So we have a strange labyrinth to find our way towards the best way of doing things.
00:36:03.460So what I've sought to do is to try to bring those things back into a system that's unified with the vast majority of our corpus of lore.
00:36:19.420to bring things together in a way that's unified in conception.
00:36:27.820One of the things that happens when we use many different words from a variety of Arian languages
00:36:37.100is we have an awkward overlap of meaning.
00:36:40.780We'll have two words that mean the same thing and are based off the same root,
00:36:45.700but that we've kind of developed subtle differences in.
00:36:48.900and it causes some confusion. So the effort's been made to put our official, our ecclesiastical
00:36:59.820language into Old Norse or to just use the common English. And I say English, the common
00:37:08.820lingua franca of wherever you are. If you are a Spaniard consuming this, then the way to do it
00:37:16.400there would be Spanish or Old Norse. The way to do it here in the United States is English or
00:37:24.480referring to the terms, the names of the people from the lore, and the names of our holy observances
00:37:32.800in the Old Norse. So it brings us to a number of our holidays are already that or very close.
00:37:43.680um so some of them there's no change at all to the nomenclature of them
00:37:50.680but some of them there are so to take you through the course of the year uh Thorobloat
00:37:57.660is Thorobloat it's an Icelandic holiday it is the same as it would have been in the original
00:38:05.920Old Norse for the same reasons. No change to that one. Biggest one you might notice is in February,
00:38:15.520Charming of the Plough. So there's been a long-standing
00:38:21.600back and forth in Ausatru between referring to this celebration
00:38:27.520as disting, which is a modern Swedish word, or as Charming of the Plough.
00:38:35.920And for similar reasons, this was always one of the most important celebrations of the year for our ancestors.
00:40:17.200Desir are certainly our deified female ancestors, but as a term, they also mean the goddesses.
00:40:24.700So this is the assembly of the goddesses.
00:40:26.880The idea is our goddesses coming together and preparing us, preparing the implements of work for the year, preparing the land for that implementation of labor, preparing and caring for the men who go out into the fields.
00:40:47.940It's preparing for the feminine, preparing and celebrating, decorating and charming the masculine that we might go out and work our will in the world.
00:41:01.540And it's really kind of a beautiful thing that way. And I think this adds an element that's long been missing to the celebration.
00:41:08.520And it brings the naming back in line with this is quite literally what our ancestors in the period of our, the lore that's come to us, this is what they called this particular observance.
00:44:31.640um, the mother tongue of our lore. Uh, you'll notice that following in, uh, in, uh, April
00:44:42.080with Hexenot. So for the longest, and I should also note, there's many times over,
00:44:49.560yeah, sorry, it's easy to get distracted because there's a lot of pieces on it.
00:44:53.820So, with Hexenacht, for a long time, we celebrated this under the name of Volpurgisnacht, as many of you who've been around Oster for a long time might be aware.
00:45:09.380But that's always made me very uncomfortable, and it was important for me to change that.
00:45:14.880Volpurgisnacht, naming-wise, is the eve of the Christian feast day of St. Volperga, or Volpergus.
00:45:23.820And we don't want to name our stuff after they are saints.
00:45:30.220We don't want to name anything we do after someone else or some other group of people's conception of us.
00:45:40.500It's the reason that we refer to ourselves as Alcetru and not as pagan or as heathen.
00:45:46.860Those are names applied to us by our enemies to denigrate us.
00:45:50.500Ausatru is a name applied to us, by us, to positively express our loyalty to our gods.
00:46:00.540And in a similar way, the other little-known variant of the name in German was Hexennat, which means Witches' Night.
00:46:11.120So to make the things match up and synergize and to get our language in line with the lore, we move that to Nornanot, which literally means Witches' Night.
00:46:25.640So it's the exact same as Hexanot, or it's Witches' Night, if that's what you'd like to call it.
01:03:19.000so our people come most likely as near as we can tell from one beginning point uh a lot of the
01:03:30.620Modern science thinks that that's, you know, somewhere in Ukraine, the Euromot, you know, I have friends that will argue it's from somewhere in the, you know, in the polls.
01:03:42.360But, you know, as our people spread in a diaspora, they took our gods and our initial religion with them.
01:03:52.260And so you notice there are some obvious similarities between the evolution of our gods amongst our different groups of people.
01:04:04.980So that's why you'll notice there are similarities between the Hellenics and the Slavs and the Germanics.
01:04:11.300Um, and there is a, a theory that, you know, I, I believe, and, and I think it's logical
01:04:21.780that some of that is the original stories in the original pantheon of our gods, which is
01:04:29.140shaped a little, um, you know, as, as it traveled across all of, uh, Europe and, you know,
01:04:37.200obviously it's followed us now to the new world, but that some of it too is a result of that
01:04:45.100pantheon of our indigenous Aryan gods interacting with those different tribes of our people
01:04:53.640in different ways, as the question mentioned, because, you know, that's what those people
01:05:02.060needed at that time. And, and I've, you know, the Alshiriogothi has, has spoken about that before
01:05:07.620that, you know, it's the way that our gods who are eternal and ubiquitous to our people
01:05:16.700choose to interact with groups of our people deals to a certain extent with who those people are
01:05:24.540and what position they find themselves in so they may have interacted with the ancient greek
01:05:33.020in a different way that they would have interacted with the i don't the the common era germans so i
01:05:45.900I, as the Alshira Goethe said, the answer is yes, but that's sort of some of the theory behind
01:05:54.880why that happened. A little bit of it is us twisting the stories as time and distance grew
01:06:00.940between us, and then some of it is the actual interaction that those people who were faithful
01:06:06.280with our gods had with those gods, and, you know, that's why they may have championed one particular
01:06:13.020god over another in the hierarchy depending on the scenarios they found themselves in
01:06:19.100not only as that people and in that location but in that period of time
01:06:23.580certainly um what what gothi rock said but uh
01:06:35.460this is why it's very important to start on the right foot with how we approach religion and
01:06:51.840um any any authentic study of not only our faith but other faiths
01:06:59.220What I think is all too often done is we start with a linguistic, a scholarly approach to one group of people at a certain time.
01:07:18.620And we have a number of sociological and anthropological theories about Dumazilian functions and myth structure and all of these things.
01:07:39.740And we try to force divinity to fit whatever we learned in whatever branch of study or education that we're comfortable with and look at it through that lens.
01:07:55.800And I think that's dishonest, and we don't do that. We don't try to build a relationship with our friends and our family based on studies in biology or cultural anthropology or understanding of the concept of archetypes.
01:08:18.780No, you see them as individuals. You get to know them. You learn about them through interaction, through talking with them and trying to get them know them better. You don't force them to fit your preconceived slots that you've made for functionality or for cultural tradition.
01:08:41.840Our gods are real, they exist, they are living entities.
01:08:46.800If that is true, which it is, then we have to follow the logic for it.
01:08:52.700Certainly, if these are the gods that formed us and shaped us as people,
01:08:58.160then they have to be as old as our races, or certainly the major ones of them do,
01:09:04.800the ones that are implicated in the creation of us, they have to be as old as us.
01:09:11.180And surely, when we understand the migratory patterns of our folk over the history of the millennia since the Ice Age, we can see clearly in linguistics the march of one race of people through the world.
01:09:30.340and it's over time and space developing different cultural settings
01:09:56.240So, of course, the other pantheons of Aryan gods are a reflection of our gods through the eyes and the linguistics and the cultural context of that group of our cousins as time, space, and migration have separated things out.
01:10:23.720So it's funny because when we see the very clear one-for-ones between like, for example, you see, you know, Wotan, Woden, and Odin, and they're obviously the same.
01:10:46.320nobody really contests that but when you move it one step further it starts becoming
01:10:52.640a little bit more confusing there's a lot of overlap between closely related groups of people
01:10:59.280but the further you get it apart over time and linguistic variation it never works out as clean
01:11:06.400as we want to where this god equals that god equals this story is the same as this story
01:11:14.320But I say that the similarities are astounding.
01:11:37.080And it's one of the reasons we could drive ourselves insane trying to forcibly match all of the nuance, but that doesn't really move us forward or get us there.
01:11:54.600What does is choosing what to go with and going with that wholeheartedly, which is why we have embraced the Norse nomenclature for the understanding of Aryan religion.
01:12:09.240It is our best, our best preserved, most complete, most complete in a time of the most piety collection of lore and understanding of how we have related to our gods.
01:12:27.300And it is, in fact, that understanding, that verbiage through that lens that the All-Father reached out to our founder, Stephen Anthony McNallan, in 1968, to get all of this started that we do today.
01:12:48.860it is in fact in that concept and that understanding that the reawakening of our folk
01:12:57.860in the last century occurred and that is what's brought us to where we are that has been shown
01:13:06.660to have the divine approval of the iser time and time again and the better we align with that and
01:13:14.520And the more we build comprehensively upon that system, the greater blessings we have and continue to experience.
01:14:44.360I would say that, yes, it could mean those things, but that doesn't mean that it was meant to represent those things.
01:14:51.560It is easy when we look at any myth or anything in the lore that teaches a lesson, particularly something that teaches universal lessons, and then we take and we plug very specific players into it.
01:15:13.180so i you know it could mean that it it could mean i mean i i could come up with scenarios
01:15:20.300in which it represented anything that any singular individual found oppressive
01:15:28.140um i but you know and that's not to dismiss that manner of thought because one of the things that
01:15:35.820makes our mythos so timeless is the ability to take it and to take its lessons and to apply them
01:15:44.620in ways that are meaningful for you and for different periods of time that's why they
01:15:51.660survive and thrive when other things are forgotten
01:16:05.820it is very and a lot of the things that we talk about on the show are directionality
01:16:14.300no that's not what the lore is about but that's not what that piece of lore
01:16:17.580is about in the sense that that's not what the original intent was that's not
01:16:23.500what the understanding was at the time because our lore and our in our mythos is eternal um
01:16:30.140um to think that it references like roca true wasn't a thing until the 1990s to think that
01:16:40.700that was some kind of just for that they they prophesied this bit of lore it's just the wrong
01:16:46.820direction to go clearly that's not what the law is about but as uh go through rock said
01:16:53.720It is applicable to that. The point of our lore isn't to recognize an ancient story about an ancient happening. It's to learn a lesson by those stories. It is to be able to take the lore and apply it or see points of similarity or have things that we struggle with in our life harken back to lessons learned from that lore and through understandings of that lore.
01:17:21.560so it's not at all wrong to have that thought it's just in what direction it goes you're applying the
01:17:27.800lore to that scenario people didn't write the lore in response to that scenario the
01:17:35.880directionality matters but no finding parallels is that's doing it right just don't forget you
01:17:44.680know the order of operations the lore comes before the circumstance the circumstance doesn't create
01:17:50.200the lord um uh matt what did you think of the trt world's segment on the afa um first and i i mean
01:18:05.640this wholeheartedly it was beautiful um like it was well shot with the camera like the the
01:18:12.360cinematography of it was really well done and it was a very nice looking video
01:18:18.120So I think it would have been more effective to vilify us if the presenter would have gone maybe 75, maybe 60 to 75 percent as hard as he did.
01:18:37.980sounding super concerned about the evil racists
01:18:45.060was a little bit too much of a put on sinister tone
01:19:25.660Um, that said the random let's get a NAACP guy that we found in the area that doesn't know anything about us and just get him to interject about some experience he had as a, as a young, young man with the clan doesn't have anything to do with us.
01:19:48.580There was a lot of little random things.
01:19:50.960I don't think they had a lot of success finding counterpoints, so they had to reach on that a lot.
01:19:59.020But that said, it put us before audiences that didn't know we existed.
01:20:06.080It generated and continues to generate interest in who we are and what we're doing
01:20:13.260and prompts other people to learn a little bit more and get our faces and our our message out
01:20:19.740in the world so i'm glad i did it i would absolutely do it again um yeah so that's my
01:20:28.780thought on it i mean it was silly i enjoyed looking at it i think that um witness fond
01:20:33.660did an amazing job i thought he did awesome he represented us very very well and very proud of
01:20:38.860that beautiful shots of our people and of lord thor's hoff i thought all of that was really cool
01:20:48.140and i think it was a really pretty video um again it's unfortunate i had uh and i know that svan had
01:20:57.180a long interview with the guy i had i think mine was about two hours and 45 minutes so we talked
01:21:05.020about a lot of things that i wish would have been in there i wish would have been covered but i don't
01:21:08.780I don't think those things fit the narrative that they were trying hard to go after.
01:21:14.880But, no, I mean, I'm glad it occurred.
01:21:17.620Certainly, I would much prefer if they were glowing, you know, celebratory pieces about the AFA.
01:21:24.500But that's just not the world we live in right now.
01:22:53.720Your physical appearance speaks volumes about, so beside the point, your physical characteristics are literally pieces of your ancestors showing through in your features and in your genes.
01:23:09.360But the condition that you keep your body and your physical self in is a, it's of, it can't be overstated of how much spiritual importance is in that.
01:23:26.200It shows, it speaks volumes to your dedication, to your discipline, to your how much you, how serious you are about who you are and how you present yourself.
01:23:46.860It speaks to your health or your lack of health.
01:23:50.800being good looking and especially good looking in the ways you can control. And I did want to
01:23:58.080add this to it. Being in a healthy and appealing physical condition is hugely important.
01:24:05.900Also packaging it well, dressing nicely. You know, if you're a lady doing your makeup, doing your
01:24:12.440hair, looking pretty. If you're a man trying to look nice, taking care of, you know, if you choose
01:24:18.900to have facial hair keeping it maintained of trying to present yourself in the best way
01:24:26.660that is powerful it's powerful to your friends it's powerful to your enemies it's powerful to
01:24:33.300the world i am aided tremendously when the people who support me or who stand next to me or who
01:24:42.980are associated with me look good your so take this back to the uh to the video that was just
01:24:54.900talked about when we have our people showing up looking good standing tall and presenting their
01:25:01.380best self it does it makes an impact um sublingually on the audience when your opposition
01:25:15.780doesn't show up looking nice or doesn't look like they take care of themselves all of those things
01:25:23.220communicate volumes on a sublingual level. So much of our communication is done through
01:25:31.940nonverbal communication. I think somewhere north of 60%. We pick up so much on what we perceive
01:25:40.420in all our other senses. It doesn't matter what, I mean, that's silly. It obviously matters what0.88
01:25:49.480someone says. But beyond that, it matters tremendously that what they say match the
01:25:56.380person that's in front of you is who they are presenting verbally the same as who they
01:26:01.620are presenting physically. The impression you make by how well you take care of yourself
01:26:07.860and by especially in a spot where you are choosing how you show up and you are choosing
01:26:13.440how much effort you put on being healthy on being physically fit all of those things project your
01:26:23.680ability to be effective in the world around you with every single person that interacts with you
01:26:32.800every person that sees you from a distance and when they associate the person they're talking
01:26:38.640with with bigger things if they see you you look good you are presenting success you are presenting
01:26:48.240health you are presenting uh confidence and you are wearing a hammer they associate0.96
01:26:55.120the package you are presenting with our faith and that cuts both ways if you look like a slob0.99
01:27:03.120and you're engaged in churlish behavior, and you're fat and you look bad, that speaks about0.99
01:27:11.040who we are also. So it is tremendously important and can't be overstated. And all of us, and I'll0.63
01:27:17.660say this too, all of us, wherever you are right now, that's where you are and we all start
01:27:23.060someplace. Each and every one of us can present a better version of ourselves tomorrow. And all of
01:27:29.620us should be very committed and very willing to help all of our brothers and sisters to present
01:27:35.540that better version of themselves tomorrow if they want that help and that's something they
01:27:40.380desire to do and we try really hard to do that within the afa john what do you do you have
01:27:46.600thoughts about the effect of physical fitness spiritually and in the world around us
01:27:54.960not much that you haven't already said i mean i would echo that you know obviously everything
01:28:03.420you said is absolutely true i mean you know you yourself you are you're a flag you know and and
01:28:11.300you are representative of who the internal you really is not who you think you are but you
01:28:17.480actually are because everyone wants to be, you know, fit generally. Um, I think the only thing
01:28:29.160to really add that the Alshurir Gauthier did not go into great detail is that your self-esteem
01:28:38.440when you know that you are in good health or that you look good, particularly
01:28:44.940as compared to those around you can really make a difference. So, you know, aside from just who
01:28:53.100you actually are and what you are representing, you are going to do a better job if you are
01:29:02.320presenting yourself well or making an effort to do that. A little bit of it is going to be an ego
01:29:08.360boost. They've done studies where if you dress up, even if you're just speaking on the phone,
01:29:14.940you speak more professionally, you speak with more confidence. So, um, you know, it, it's a
01:29:22.640very real thing. You know, every day we go out into the world and you to a certain degree can
01:29:29.740choose what kind of day you're going to have or how your interaction is going to go with someone
01:29:34.100else. And, um, you know, if you've got your best foot forward, you feel a little bit better.
01:29:40.440I don't have to dress up in my office. And so sometimes I don't. But when I do, I do hit it harder. I feel better. I present better. I do things better. So I still, sometimes I dress up in the office just to do it. And that's an important aspect of all of this.
01:30:10.440So I know we're getting a little bit off of the physical fitness aspect of this, just broadening it to looking good and confidence, but that makes all the difference.
01:30:32.440um I've seen that countless times in my life in my own experience and I think we all know it to be
01:30:41.020true there is something inherent about your conviction and your believability
01:30:51.460when you talk about things but you aren't really about that life as the kids would say
01:31:02.440you pick up with that on body language on appearance and on conviction and it is plain
01:31:09.720for the world to see it's plain for animals to see it's funny that way
01:31:15.800other other creatures in this world pick up on stuff that's very subtle in ways that people don't
01:31:23.720children do um if you're dealing with people that don't speak english
01:31:28.440you can communicate a lot just by not even what you say but how you say it by how you gesture by
01:31:38.100the faces the faces that you make by whether you seem like you're confident or do you seem like
01:31:43.580you're a victim you seem like you're scared of something do you seem shifty you feeling good
01:31:49.660about the way you look makes you more confident you being more confident makes you more effective
01:42:48.940we are four hundred and sixty nine dollars from having that four hundred and sixty nine dollars
01:42:55.180and we will raise two hundred thousand dollars towards the new york's off which is a big number
01:43:01.500by itself more than we've ever paid for any huff um you guys are amazing thank you all so very very
01:43:11.100much uh you guys continue to be impressive uh next question what is the main or what main difference
01:43:22.860does the afa have from the also true alliance so this is a this is a historic question and i think
01:43:34.860that and i will absolutely get to in 2025 what the difference is um but i want to set the set the
01:43:45.020stage for it um in the 1970s and the 1980s the foundations of the astro folk assembly were
01:44:01.420another afa the house true free assembly also founded by um steve mcnallen and that was
01:44:15.340that organization was extremely influential in all of also true the way that it's practiced today
01:44:23.100and it laid the groundwork for a lot of the things that we do
01:44:26.460do but it had a lot of you know a lot of work to do a lot of ways that it wasn't perfect
01:44:33.300as anything's not and a lot of a lot of different personalities vying for things it was a much
01:44:43.260more um dare I say chaotic uh all kind of I don't know a lot of different personalities
01:44:57.420from a lot of different extreme places with varying different views on the world come
01:45:03.680together for a quasi-democratic quasi-mob rule battle royal of things that made getting
01:45:13.680things done very tricky and eventually the failings and internal struggles with that
01:45:24.480caused steve mcnallen to dissolve the austro free assembly in 1987. when he did that he passed on
01:45:34.080the materials of the austro free assembly to valgarve murray who recently passed away and
01:45:42.160they took over kind of in a way some of the mantle of that original organization as they moved forward
01:45:50.160and Steve had some other things to do in the world and some different ways on his own to
01:45:58.880grow to develop and to come back stronger and in a with a better idea of how to do this right
01:46:07.020which he eventually did in the founding of the Austro Folk Assembly at the top of the year in
01:46:13.1201995. But one of the reasons that led to the founding of the AFA was that the Auschew Alliance
01:46:20.920being a confederation of allied kindreds, they were much more of a democratic kind of an
01:46:36.080And eventually, their leader, Valgaard Murray, signed on to a, I don't know, a greater pagan heathen statement, acknowledging that Alcetru was open to anybody of any ethnicity that wanted to be part in it, and thus was, you know, universal in that sense.
01:47:05.880And that was a core belief of the Ausatru Free Assembly and all Ausatru in the United States before that is no, Ausatru is in fact the ethnic religion of Aryan peoples.
01:47:21.760That was a core of everything this has always been about, but due to increased social pressures and political sway of degenerate forces, the Astro Alliance, legend has it reluctantly signed off on this agreement.
01:47:43.760But that signature was one of the things that caused our founder to, no, I have to come back and I have to preserve Ausatru for its folkish, its ethnically exclusive purpose for our people.
01:48:00.420As Steve's always said, the existence of our people is not negotiable.
01:48:04.400And so he came back and founded the Ausatru Folk Assembly in a large portion as a response to that position.
01:48:13.760um so in the early days of the afa throughout the 90s and the very early 2000s because steve
01:48:27.020and valgaard were friends and there was a lot of past association there it's like the alliance had
01:48:34.220kindreds but the afa had individual members and there was kind of a you know hey we're similar
01:48:40.400but we're all on the same team because the alliance though they signed that thing that
01:48:46.000was just so people would get off their back and they were really folkish or so they would
01:48:50.640say so folkish house of true was represented by both organizations and and there was a
01:48:58.640a overlap in membership and a sense of brotherhood um that was part of things until you know well
01:49:09.040into the 2000s but as this century took shape the alliance much more was focused on
01:49:20.160they weren't really focused on growth they were focused very heavily on
01:49:28.320a reenactment culture and on kind of keeping their head down staying out of the fray and
01:49:39.040to a degree and i'm trying to figure out the the nice ways to say some things because things that
01:49:43.760sound pejorative aren't necessarily meant that way but kind of like an old guy's drinking club
01:49:50.800thing to do the backyard alsatru that they did in the 80s without really a lot of religiosity to it
01:50:00.880some of the inside jokes in the alsatru alliance tended to take more significance
01:50:08.000than the actual religious practice of alsatru they have this really cringy spam cult thing that
01:50:15.360they do and it's makes me uncomfortable um but yes things have gone on and on they've become
01:50:25.040less and less interested in growing or developing alsatru or really being involved in alsatru
01:50:31.920other than maintaining the same you know old and aging out kindreds and membership that they had
01:50:39.360back in the 80s um a day over the last
01:50:48.960it's funny you start getting a certain age and years start coming together but over recent years
01:50:54.320um as valgaard has passed or had passed the torch to one alzharia gothi that was
02:00:44.940it. It's obviously the superior teller. How much did the audience came up with a different
02:00:55.500one, you think, when I said that? There you have it. So, does the AFA believe that all
02:01:01.980Christian pantheons in Europe are the same gods? Are the Hellenic, Celtic, and Slavic pantheons
02:01:07.540the same as the gods the AFA worships with different cultures? So, we talked about this
02:01:13.800earlier in the show but it's something a lot of people think on
02:01:20.440the short answer is yes the long answer is you will be endlessly befuddled in exactly how that
02:01:29.880works out if you try to find the exact one for one correlation in all of the european pantheons
02:01:38.520it does not work itself out nearly that clean but yes the original root of all of those pantheons
02:01:46.200goes back to one source one root one pantheon of gods that the austral folk assembly worships under
02:01:52.680the names and expression of the old norse as the ice seer they reveal themselves over the march of
02:02:02.040time over the space of eons and the sweep of tens of thousands of miles in different ways
02:02:11.580with different namings with you know different traditions and different expressions as those
02:02:17.500people's culture and languages evolved in in different ways but yes those are the same gods
02:02:24.280that shaped us that are our gods we are their folk and that will be the case for the remainder
02:02:30.620of time and beyond. Matt, what would you say to critics who accuse the AFA of being a cult or
02:02:42.560just people who are curious about joining that may have concerns? Two things. People that say
02:02:52.160we're a cult, I mean, it depends because it's a longer conversation. I don't think that word
02:03:01.400means what they think it means. In antiquity, you would talk about a cult of this God or a cult of
02:03:09.200that God. A group, it's funny because it's like administration or regime. They mean the same
02:03:16.500thing but when it's the baddies it's a regime when it's the good guys that we like it's an
02:03:23.060administration it's a church or a religion when we like it it's a cult or a you know yeah it's a
02:03:30.980cult when we want to demonize it either all religions are cults or we're not a cult
02:03:40.100there is a modern sociological definition of cult that we kind of examined an episode I did
02:03:51.180I believe with Cliff we examined it kind of in on episode 114 we examined it and it's kind of fun
02:04:00.340because there's a lot of stuff that implies coercion and abuse and like a systematic mind
02:04:08.900control device and a lot of silly things we're certainly not a cult in what the average person
02:04:17.780on the street would think a cult is because we don't try to take over people's lives and separate
02:04:25.540them from their families or you know trick them or threaten them with abuse or try to psychologically
02:04:33.460manipulate them we do firmly believe in what we believe in we absolutely try to teach our people
02:04:42.500and urge them to act right and we have firm standards and we also encourage people not
02:04:50.980to associate with those who've been disloyal and who have decided to try to damage us or go against
02:04:59.460our gods or hurt us because anybody who takes things seriously wants loyalty but no we're
02:05:08.020not a cult in not in the sense that they probably think what i would say to folks that have concerns
02:05:13.220or questions it is unfortunate that we find ourselves in a sound bite world because most
02:05:23.460of the real questions of life about things that are important don't have sound bite answers
02:05:28.260I would encourage those people to ask any of us, to ask our go-thar, whatever the questions they might have, to listen to this program where we've probably addressed a lot of questions they might have, or to call me, email me, reach out to me personally and ask me, because I would love to talk to them.
02:05:47.860You can find out, and I would encourage any and everybody to find out what the core fundamentals of our belief are in the Ausatru Trulagmau, which is available on our library on our website.
02:06:06.960That is a concise expression of the very fundamentals of what we believe and what's foundational to our practice.
02:06:16.100so please check that out if you haven't and please feel free to share that if people wonder
02:06:21.320like hey what is this what do you guys believe this is the best way i've found to answer that
02:06:27.200question um but yeah the the solution to people who are curious is to have them ask and any of us
02:06:35.280would love to tell them the other thing is watch our videos where we show a special oh
02:06:44.060So, Nick, this is a good reminder, and I'm just going to take this opportunity.
02:06:47.760I haven't gotten to you, but we just got done with the first quarter.
02:06:50.900We need to get that first quarter slideshow up.
02:06:55.640It hasn't occurred to me to get on you about it until right now.
02:07:00.700But every quarter we do a slideshow about what the AFA has been up to in that quarter.
02:07:06.820And it's really nice because a lot of the time it's candid shots.
02:07:12.120It's shots of just us doing what we do, and you get to see who we are, where we're at.
02:07:19.540You see the people who we're associated with, and it demystifies what I think a lot of the critics would say we are or say we're about.
02:07:28.920I mentioned that how you present yourself says a lot.
02:07:31.920you're going to find happy smiling white families engaged in worship engaged in fellowship with one
02:07:40.420another and i think it's really disarming to anybody that might have fears about us and the
02:07:48.220media tries really hard to get people to be afraid um so i would encourage everybody to check those
02:07:54.140out and nick and i will get over in the next couple of days getting that quarter one slideshow
02:07:59.860out to all you guys. John, do you have any thoughts on what do you say if people say we're involved in
02:08:07.780a cult or that, you know, if people just have concerns about us? What are your thoughts and
02:08:12.880how would you address that? My thoughts mirror all of yours. Obviously, if you come out and
02:08:18.920dare meet any of us, you'll realize that we're perfectly safe to be around. I would say that
02:08:26.540practically speaking when most people think of a cult they are i think one of the definitive
02:08:33.560qualities of that is that people are not free to leave and so they're being they're being held and
02:08:40.360brainwashed and i think that is objectively and obviously not true we have we have people that
02:08:47.520leave the afa every day which is unfortunate like just about every day all the time uh we have
02:08:54.540people that come back all the time we have new people joining we have people that come check us
02:08:59.980out or join leave for two months and then come back two months later um you know there everybody
02:09:08.220goes home at the end of the night so it's not it's simply not in real life an environment that
02:09:14.820is conducive to what people perceive as cultish behavior it's the reality of it is showing up
02:09:25.000having a pitch in doing a religious ritual that that granted people outside of the religion may
02:09:33.080find slightly unusual although it's it's really not that unusual to a lot of even to a lot of
02:09:40.440outsiders. And, um, and then everybody goes home at the end of the night. And I mean,
02:09:45.440they might come back a month later. I mean, we only have official moods for the most part
02:09:51.040once every month. That's, that's no way to run a cult. So I, you know, logically, objectively,
02:09:57.160it's, it's simply not realistic to look at it through that. Yeah. If we're a cult, we're doing
02:10:04.420it wrong. So I'd say about a lot of things. We're a hate group. We're doing it wrong.
02:10:11.540There's way too much snuggles and crying and hugs and happiness. And, you know, for a
02:10:18.360cult, we're, we are woefully missing the mark. But we continue to have amazingly generous
02:10:27.240us people thank you guys so much uh chris lucat bought us five coffees folk arm and soul he says
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02:11:33.740John, how would you say your path to Gauthier changed your personal spiritual practice?
02:11:48.140You know, so if we're talking about the fullness of the path to Gauthier, so...
02:11:54.420My, my origin story in the faith is, is similar to a lot of people's, right? So
02:12:01.020sometime, you know, when I was in high school, I decided that religion was, you know, theoretically
02:12:09.700important. And so you shouldn't just follow whatever you were born into. So you ought to
02:12:14.600look into it and figure out which one is correct. And so I, you know, I did this big, deep dive
02:12:23.920into different denominations and then different religions uh never considering um any of the
02:12:32.080indigenous indigenous european religions it was just outside of my my realm of what i considered
02:12:40.000logically possible at the time and um like many of our people everything seemed so foreign to me
02:12:48.640and um you know i mean you know the hinduism was even more foreign than christianity which
02:12:56.380didn't appeal to me in the first place because something about it just never gripped me and um
02:13:03.040you know i i sat down i read the bible and i was like i don't i don't i it's not that i don't
02:13:12.680believe the stories even it's that i don't believe in the lesson in in a lot of these instances
02:13:18.580right so like many of our people then i i decided well i'm an atheist and and i think that hits a
02:13:26.180lot of our people because they equate their inability to find religion in a foreign religion
02:13:35.300with a lack of spirituality or an inability to find religion at all and um so i did that for a
02:13:44.660little while this is a long this is i'm some of this is from how i should have told the story
02:13:50.800earlier when i was talking about my original path to the goathy hood so that's why it's so long but
02:13:56.360so anyhow so i'm that guy and um you know so i started back this was now in the early 2000s
02:14:06.640might have been 2001 we had uh myself and a friend of mine um he was already training we went and we
02:14:16.420started uh training in mixed martial arts and you know in in 2001 ish in indiana indianapolis you
02:14:26.220know it was not prevalent right so indiana though does have the honor of having an early ufc fighter
02:14:34.400jason godsey who who lived here and um so we would go and we'd roll in jason's pole barn
02:14:42.000and he would you know he'd teach us jujitsu and and we'd do that and um he's a real cool guy
02:14:49.580and so he taught myself and some of my friends how to read runes and he would practice rune
02:14:57.900divination. And so we would sit and we would do that. And it started opening up this idea to me
02:15:05.300that, okay, so, you know, here are serious men who are grown, who are intelligent, who are engaging
02:15:14.000in this supernatural practice, you know, and, and so that was really interesting to me. So I didn't
02:15:23.600flip automatically um but you know i started into like like a lot of us do when we're wetting our
02:15:30.080feet you know the you start looking at the gods as archetypes you know they'll kind of archetypal
02:15:35.440look like okay our people need to be guided we need to act a certain way and these are the lessons
02:15:41.040and this is what our ancestors did and then after you do that for a little bit you start to realize
02:15:46.800is hey this is real uh rune divination's real these things have happened our gods are real
02:15:55.440and then you start practicing more seriously and then when that comes to actually answering the
02:16:00.560question is like so many of our people who are suffering and they don't actually realize they're
02:16:09.360doing it you know i mean we had access to the internet back then too i don't know where all
02:16:14.040these internet gurus think that they they have some hot take on the religion that the afa doesn't
02:16:19.180understand but um you know so you read all the lore you look at things online you start practicing
02:16:26.200by yourself you're doing your bloat by yourself everything by yourself i'd get together with a
02:16:32.420couple of my friends we might do a little thing but um we hadn't laid out you know we just laid
02:16:41.180out the hey we're going to give a gift we're going to do a thing and um there was no real
02:16:47.240understanding on my end of the concept of hymenia as a group a group hymenia um how that ties into
02:16:55.680and um and that really religiously um there is a dictate for practicing with others and and
02:17:08.780really for practicing with the largest group you can get which is why you know I've always been
02:17:15.620pretty critical as kindly as I could be for people that feel like they they don't want to come do it
02:17:21.500with the AFA you know I now I'm a company man right so I get that that sounds suspect but
02:17:26.540I didn't have to be you know there's a time I was perfectly happy doing things on my own with a
02:17:33.140friend or two. And, and when I came to realize the, the, you know, cause that's a good thing
02:17:40.140about a large group like the AFA, you know, the legitimate churches is there are people there who
02:17:45.200know more than you and you get to glean from them. And, um, you know, you, the gods are not
02:17:53.700interested in a contrarian. They're interested in a winner. They're interested in you participating
02:17:59.380on the winning team and adding to the largeness and the power of that hymenia that's what survives
02:18:07.480the storm not the individual it's kind of it's kind of like the fashies right you know you got
02:18:14.800the individual little stick you know that's your hymenia you and your three buddies it snaps right
02:18:20.960you got this big hymenia of all these different guys and it does not right it holds so that's
02:18:28.340something that's changed in my practice during the road to to you know gothic ordination is that
02:18:36.400there is now for starters the afa has broken down what a bloat needs to be in the simplest
02:18:47.400steps the simplest of steps like the things that are provably required from the bronze age
02:18:58.280like these steps, like you can do whatever you want, really, you know, there's room for a lot
02:19:02.680of flair, but you need to achieve these three things, let's say, it depends on how you break
02:19:08.760into steps, you know, whether you process as part of a step or not, what have you, but,
02:19:12.880but, you know, so I, now I have that model to play off of and an understanding that,
02:19:21.220you know i should when possible enact those steps with others and it's important that i do it with
02:19:31.100others even even though i can go do my own private practice the way i always used to
02:19:36.060that's great that's fine but it should be in addition to the communal practice and um
02:19:43.720And now, I mean, honestly, as because, you know, I led bloat, you know, all the time that I was an apprentice, you know, up until now, which is great because, you know, you can do that.
02:19:58.580There's nothing to stop you. But it hadn't occurred to me before that, you know, the idea of having an ordained clergy, which is paramount, it's great, but even the idea of acting as a lay clergyman is really important.
02:20:23.840You know, you are acting as a conduit between, you know, the Aesir and different people.
02:20:32.160And it's important, not just because, you know, you're important that you're doing it, but it's important for them.
02:20:38.640You are helping them, you know, engage in the gift cycle with our gods.
02:20:46.160And so it's, it's just, it adds more, more gravity to the situation. And it, you know, it really pushes the necessity for, for communal practice of the faith.
02:21:03.120I don't know how to read any other questions or anything. So.
02:32:12.280one the celtic material is not nearly as comprehensive or as complete that's come down
02:32:24.060to us um another one that i think probably plays into some of them the celtic material is simply
02:32:34.960not very well known to most of our folk as a whole whereas the basics of the Norse material
02:32:45.120is at least the points of familiarity are much more and then there is the
02:32:56.960The more overtly supernatural reasoning, because that is what the Aesir have put forth to us.
02:33:16.140That's what the mission that has been laid before us is.
02:33:20.080a lot of people wonder well what if we had like a celtic thing that was like
02:33:27.880that was a true but celtic or what would it be like if this and those are all fascinating
02:33:33.120questions and i like to wonder about what if too but it pales in comparison to what did happen
02:33:40.460What did happen over a couple of consecutive waves in the late 1800s, the early 1900s, and undeniably and overwhelmingly in the 1960s and 70s,
02:33:56.700Because the All-Father, under the Norse conception, with Norse terminology, with Norse inspiration, chose to ignite the soul of our folk, to reclaim our trough and our loyalty to the Aesir.
02:34:16.700that was done under these terms with these associations and in this way that is what
02:34:26.580awakened our folk soul that is what brought us back home to relation with our gods to trough to
02:34:34.600loyalty, it was as Allfather Odin that the Sigfather chose and spoke to our founder,
02:34:46.820Alasherjir Gauthier, Stephen McNallan, way back in 1968, to put all of this into motion.
02:34:56.120It is under that conception and that corpus of lore that all of the different currents
02:35:03.740that have coalesced to get us what we where we are today that is the shape it's taken that is what
02:35:10.780has brought us to the dance and that's what continues to facilitate our blessings through
02:35:18.620the gift cycle and our advancement in the development of aussitrew um we could have done
02:35:28.540it could have happened under a celtic lens it could have happened under a myriad
02:35:37.420other lenses and other shapes and varieties but it did happen under this one it did happen under
02:35:43.980this one and we are into this as also true for 56 years now and we are into this as the
02:35:51.100Ausatru Folk Assembly very specifically this year for 30 years now. So it could have happened
02:35:59.080many, many different ways, but it did happen this way. And this is what we continue to
02:36:05.360build upon to try and perfect to the best of our ability and what is moving us forward and
02:36:15.100bringing us closer to a more perfect understanding and relationship with the gods.
02:36:25.840What do you think Universalist Alcetruar would say about folkish Yoruba?
02:36:33.640Would they have as much of a problem with that?
02:36:37.100John, respond to that if you would.1.00
02:36:40.940They would not because they're cowards and charlatans.0.94
02:36:45.720They, you know, the thing about Universalist Alcetru are is that they aren't Alcetru and they don't really exist for the most part.0.90
02:36:56.920I have not noticed them being particularly religious or pious.
02:37:02.460They exist primarily to be anti-Christian and to feel special and to promote political ideality.
02:37:17.140They are terrified of the thought of applying an even-handed stroke to the Yoruba or the Shinto or the American Indian religions, all of which are, with the possible exception of Yoruba, are larger than Alcadru.
02:38:21.560a salem eight from uh rumble donated five dollars to us says hello cheers cheers to you a salem eight
02:38:33.120we appreciate you appreciate your donation we appreciate you listening to and watching the show
02:38:38.640and participating with it um thank you for being here uh secondly i reject your question because
02:38:47.280there's no such thing as your universalist house the truth the two are mutually uh contradictory0.99
02:38:53.760you can't do the you can't do those two things so the uh dishonest and mentally ill charlatans0.98
02:39:00.240that claim to be both universalist and alsatru are not loyal to the icier they are as john mentioned0.98
02:39:11.920raving communists and i don't just say that as a um like a political
02:39:20.240slap at them although i mean gladly i would say it as that but one of the things that was very
02:39:31.480apparent to me when i first came home to alsatru in let's say there's debate on this because it
02:39:44.320process very few things happen in the blink of an eye but in let's say 2001
02:39:51.920one of the things that i noticed because back then there was the there was a number of competing
02:39:58.000groups that were all you know had some degree of parody as legitimate options to try to see
02:40:07.920what this also true thing that i learned about is um at the time there was the australians there
02:40:14.320was the eodinic right there was the troth and uh there was the also true folk assembly
02:40:23.520one thing that i noticed the troughs website
02:40:28.640you had to get scroll way way down like three pages in to get to anything positive they were
02:40:40.240about when you looked at like about us it didn't say hi we're also true we love the
02:40:50.360we worship our gods. We are about whatever. We do not tolerate any homophobia. We will
02:41:00.120not accept any racism or any problematic language. We do not accept anybody who discriminates
02:41:08.620on the base. There's this whole list of all of the things they don't like and they don't
02:41:14.420accept and they won't tolerate. And it was defined by their intention.
02:41:20.360it was front-loaded defined by their politics and it's only gotten worse over the last 20 years
02:41:29.540but not only that but their politics expressed in a very negative way it's not
02:41:40.940about us didn't tell us about them it told them told me about all the people they weren't instead
02:41:47.480who they were. In contrast, at the time when I went to the AFA's website, and we've tried really
02:41:54.340hard to continue that to this day, it was all about what the AFA was about, the values the AFA
02:42:02.980shared, the beliefs that the AFA had. It wasn't all the things they don't like or all the people
02:42:08.740they don't agree with or don't approve of. It was defined positively. And yes, positively,
02:42:16.380I think in terms of values, but I mean positively in terms of language. It was a positive statement
02:42:21.580about the things that we support and who we are in contrast to negative statements about who we
02:42:28.980aren't. And I've seen that metastasize in the universalist camp. We've all seen that. I mean,
02:42:36.380if you're a regular viewer of the show, the spiral, it seems as though every year that has gone by
02:42:45.120in that camp whatever grouping or you know internet chat room they associate with
02:42:52.800it has been progressively pun intended i suppose um maybe not pun intended but pun accepted
02:43:01.340um less and less also true less and less about anything related to the gods and more and more
02:43:10.460about extreme left-wing degenerate politics um and it's really really disgusting but yeah no they0.99
02:43:23.560wouldn't care about focus yoruba they actively just hate heterosexual white people0.99
02:43:29.440their board of directors has become increasingly gay to where i believe it is0.99
02:43:35.720at last time i checked over 50 percent gay there's a black lesbian lokian that was there last time i0.89
02:43:43.960took any note of it on their board of directors a lot of the board of directors at that time
02:43:50.840also true was like the third thing down on the list they're also a wiccan high priestess they're
02:43:56.920also a you know level 18 necromancer they're all these different things and then they're
02:44:05.880at some point on there they claim some degree of loose affiliation with aussitru
02:44:12.840and yeah that's gross those people don't count and
02:44:19.240yeah but no they wouldn't apply that standard to any other group of people
02:44:26.920They literally just are self-loathing in their hate for white people and outwardly loathing in their hate for heterosexual people and traditionally minded people or people who practice good personal hygiene and have good mental health.
02:44:49.200Just a consideration is that what a perfect organization they really are.
02:44:55.700And it's, you know, it sounds humorous, but when you, we often blame their politics for why they are so degenerated and why they continue to degenerate, but they really actually are a perfect theological kind of, you know, macrocosm of what happens when you are Lokian.
02:45:21.160So, you know, we eschew, you know, these things, this Loki mentality. And I mean, really, if you are going to start a religious group that accepts Loki worship and champions it, you will become that which they are.
02:45:43.140They are a very reasonable byproduct of the Loki and troll wife just degenerate twist on everything that we, who are also true, are.
02:45:59.700A couple of notes to that that I think are true and are relevant here.
02:48:23.360And there's other people that do have some sort of sincere belief that get tricked into some kind of neutrality or ambivalence and engage in or at least allow and exist in the presence of Loki worship.
02:48:39.640And then you do see what John just mentioned about there is a spiritual decay that sets in when you knowingly open the door to and let chaos into your life or your practice or what you do.
02:48:59.720Over time, it allows for an acceleration of entropy into a complete chaotic state.
02:49:07.960And I've seen this a lot with people that may not even intentionally believe, but they want to show how edgy they are and use real dark imagery.
02:49:18.180And over time, their life starts to get into the gravitational pull of chaos.
02:49:26.380and very often they either have extensive trouble pulling out of that or they can't pull out of it
02:49:34.360together and it leads to a pretty severe mental illness and a breakdown of their family and their
02:49:41.060life and their health and a lot of things so you know beware of that don't get involved in that
02:54:29.100I think people want some kind of let's form some kind of unity rally or let's do this or let's know what helps is everybody on here donating money.
02:54:41.480We've got a variety of causes that we raise money for, be it for New York's Hoff, be it for any of our future Hoffs,
02:54:50.200be it for our folk that are struggling, that need help from folk services, or be it our targeted fundraising to help our folk who struggle with horrific and intentional ethnic cleansing in South Africa.
03:06:02.520and i don't know anyone who's ever done that and i don't know that there is a reason to do that
03:06:13.960um yeah so i mean sure of course somebody could but i have never heard of that being done
03:06:23.320and i don't see a compelling reason to do that over any other
03:06:28.280simpler ways to try to ward off bad stuff yeah i would suspect that it's not been done because
03:06:36.460when i consider it i guess the best way to look at that question is to think
03:06:40.380would i do it you know would you know and then our ancestors probably would have thought the same way
03:06:46.480the the binding of loki is a is a reactionary punishment i mean it's if you're wanting to
03:06:53.800ward and protect why don't we just go with the known wards and protect it's like you know you
03:07:02.840you do the the thor warding i mean he is the you know the aggressive proactive protection of
03:07:11.000something i feel like if you're trying to do a drama of bound loki you're almost inviting the
03:07:17.160bad thing to happen but just letting it know that you'll avenge it you know i mean if you're in a
03:07:22.600spot where you were administering justice and your method of doing so is tying somebody up
03:07:31.800and dripping acid on their face um i mean it makes sense as you taking that and trying to
03:07:40.040cross apply it but i've never heard of that being done and i think that's a really long drawn out
03:07:46.920way of doing stuff that may make much more sense when it's a god upon another god in a mythical
03:07:54.680plane and there's much easier and more efficient ways of administering justice in a society to
03:08:01.080where you have that that power to do that um is it acceptable and or encouraged for afa members
03:08:10.760to worship their ethnic gods in private while also worshiping the iser in group rituals say
03:08:18.280someone is eastern european can they worship the gods in their slavic form in private to better
03:08:23.960connect with their slavic ancestors sure um is i mean is it acceptable sure if that's how
03:08:39.240you worship in your home okay um isn't encouraged no it's not discouraged but it is encouraged to
03:08:52.040bring your home practice and your traditions in line with the afa traditions and to bring what
03:09:01.880you're doing into an ever closer harmony with what we're all doing um and that goes back to
03:09:10.120kind of a theme that we've talked about this evening the more all of the elements of your
03:09:18.600practice or all of the elements of your life harmonize and work with one another and sync up
03:09:27.320the healthier and more effective you are at life and at your connection and at all of the things
03:09:36.840you're trying to achieve because synergy is just that all of the pieces working together
03:09:44.760develop a combined momentum or potency that's greater than the sum of their parts
03:09:51.480The more you do and segment things in your life in ways that don't quite match up, the less effective harnessing that bonus synergy momentum I think that you are.
03:10:09.880Again, that's not wrong. It's not bad. It's not verboten. But the closer that your personal practice is with AFA practice, the better we all are able to align our spiritual potency and direct it towards a goal, if that's helpful.
03:10:31.480his question is the ubiquitous uh jadeite stone axe slash hammer at all related to the later
03:10:46.300indo-european axe slash hammer willing wielding thunder god always wondered that uh the indo
03:11:25.040They are considering it in the modern antiquity, I guess.
03:11:30.180But no, I do believe that we had the worship of a striker god in the Stone Age.
03:11:38.360And so it is reasonable that that we were fashioning hammers out of, you know, or striking implements out of what we saw as rare and precious stuff.
03:12:08.360sure what john said so i tend okay so i tend to think so too but without having
03:12:19.040some kind of more extensive deep dive into that i don't want to overspeak but
03:12:26.700Yes, the striker marriage between earth and heaven deity is one of the oldest attested expressions of deity amongst our folk.
03:12:48.660I would not be surprised if that connection is expressed in the ways that you mentioned.
03:12:53.920In fact, I would think that it is until I have reason to believe otherwise.
03:12:59.020And yeah, our folk, our faith, and our people extend back certainly into the Stone Age.
03:13:09.660They extend back into the Ice Age and beyond.
03:13:15.940And so those points of connectivity exist in the very, very distant past.
03:13:23.920And in fact, when you go to, I've been really blessed in my time in the AFA, I've been to Denmark, Norway, and Sweden and done rituals in each of those countries in stone circles and amongst sacred sites.
03:13:50.200and those stone circles and sacred sites aren't viking stuff they're neolithic things the dolmens
03:13:59.920and the that culture in europe is is neolithic it predates the viking age it predates the quote
03:14:08.860unquote, Celtic period, they are absolutely Ousitru sites, but they are much older than
03:14:16.120the expressions of culture that archaeologists have given those different names to.
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