Asatru Folk Assembly - 4⧸9⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 144 - Goði Rock

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00:03:00.000 Hello, and welcome to this week's exciting edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:12.660 My guest should be joining us momentarily.

00:03:16.700 Um, so we had a lot of very, I don't know, occasions to celebrate in the month of March at Thorshof for their annual Ostara celebration.

00:03:38.840 we performed the naming of a baby we awarded the folk builder excellence award for the year 2024

00:03:53.920 to folk builder tyler buffet we oathed in folk builder nicholas gunn of eastern or uh yeah eastern

00:04:05.140 Washington, and I had the pleasure, and this is the first time we've done this in a little

00:04:11.960 while, of ordaining two new Gothar to be priest and priestess of our Aesir.

00:04:23.600 Now, Githya Heather Young of South Carolina and Gothi Jonathan Rock of Indiana.

00:04:31.180 Now, Gauthier Rock will be joining us this evening, hopefully giving you all a chance to talk to him,

00:04:39.020 to get to know him a little bit, to get him to talk on some of the things he's got going on in the area

00:04:45.020 and some things beneficial for our folk in general.

00:04:50.120 So that's kind of the plan this evening.

00:04:51.820 Um, I would also like to, I guess, start the show by showing appreciation once again for a $30 donation from, uh, G.W. Farnsworth donates weekly to the program, uh, for quite some time now.

00:05:15.740 very generous donor we appreciate you so much thank you uh anybody that would like to donate

00:05:22.460 runestone.org backslash donate um i guess just slash donate um

00:05:32.940 i guess while we're on that theme the first thing i'd like to do is talk a little bit about our

00:05:38.620 progress on paying off nords off i'm gonna ramp up the fundraising push for it because

00:05:47.420 we are gaining momentum i am eager to get this all the way paid off so that we can look for

00:05:55.820 phrasehoff and get that happening it is tantalizingly close now one month ago we owed

00:06:03.900 $52,000 and change. Today, we owe $46,234. So I would love to see what progress can be made

00:06:15.800 on that during the course of this program. It would be fantastic. But we're trying the best

00:06:22.300 we can to keep that momentum going. This comes out now to $64 per AFA member would have the

00:06:30.980 thing paid off immediately. But all that said, you guys have been extremely generous when it

00:06:37.780 comes to this. For a church our size to pay off, it's been two and a half years, we've been able

00:06:52.040 to pay off $198,766 of this debt so far in that time, that is an enormous amount that we've been

00:07:04.740 able to generate due to your guys' generosity. It is much appreciated, and it is a testament to

00:07:12.460 our devotion towards Lord Nyorthar

00:07:15.900 and running the last leg of that mile

00:07:21.400 to fully get his hof in place

00:07:25.120 and then to be able to move on to his son's hof.

00:07:29.320 So thank you guys so much for your generosity.

00:07:32.180 We appreciate you.

00:07:34.520 Yeah, so that's how we're doing on that project.

00:07:39.060 Other top of the show,

00:07:41.360 things that I would like to discuss.

00:07:45.780 So, first, I would like to

00:07:49.460 raise a glass in remembrance and in honoring

00:07:53.380 Hauken Jarl, or Jarl Hauken,

00:07:58.080 the hero of our folk that we are

00:08:01.320 celebrating on today, his day of remembrance.

00:08:05.720 He is a hero of

00:08:11.360 I believe, of the original stock of heroes that were honored with Days of Remembrance back, I believe, in the 1980s.

00:08:19.780 We celebrate him for his loyalty and his steadfast insistence on living his life in Troth of the Aesir,

00:08:31.580 and for his time keeping the domains under his control loyal to the Aesir.

00:08:36.660 So we celebrate him, a warrior, a leader, and a proud Alcetur.

00:08:44.560 but this is followed up this month tomorrow by a day of remembrance for John Ewell also known as

00:08:54.640 Stova who was one of the one of the founders and driving forces of the Odinic right back when that

00:09:05.200 when that organization was a vibrant force in bringing our folk back to trough with the Iser

00:09:13.740 He lived a very interesting life that spanned very interesting times, and he put his energy towards restoring the bonds of our folk, of his countrymen, of Englishmen in general, or in specific, to Troth, to the Aesir, and specifically to the All-Father.

00:09:40.340 So we celebrate him, we honor him, we appreciate the work that he put in.

00:09:46.620 Those two things are certainly of note.

00:09:52.540 We, over the last little bit, we've added significantly to the number of heroes that we are honoring with Days of Remembrance.

00:10:02.260 And we have a few more for you that we will talk about in the coming months.

00:10:06.580 So I look forward to that.

00:10:10.340 The, I guess the, the special endeavor to find, find the names and the stories of heroes that have not gotten their proper due and raising them to proper celebration, worship, and honor after they've passed.

00:10:39.460 is an important one to me personally and has been something that I think has been very beneficial

00:10:46.440 to the Astro Folk Assembly and to us living up to the obligations of honor for those who paved the

00:10:55.240 way for us to be where we're at. And something very near and dear to my heart. There's a number

00:11:00.780 of other gentlemen. I say gentlemen, we do have some ladies, but of the upcoming crop, it's guys

00:11:08.540 right now that we're talking about that we plan on honoring with their Days of Remembrance in the

00:11:12.960 coming months. So I'm looking forward to talking about some of those with you as time moves forward.

00:11:20.800 As you might can tell from my hemming and hawing, I'm trying to kill time waiting for

00:11:25.800 Gauthier Jonathan to join us and be able to speak with y'all. But I will start chipping away at some

00:11:34.460 of these questions, and he can join when he is, when he is able. First up, and I kind of already

00:11:46.320 alluded to some of this, but Sarah asks, she says, good evening, Osheri Goethe, good evening, Sarah,

00:11:53.620 and Goethe Rock. We have two Remembrance Days this week, Jarl Halkin, today, and Stubba tomorrow night.

00:12:02.060 How will each of you be honoring these heroes?

00:12:06.340 So I wish I had a big elaborate thing to discuss with you guys.

00:12:17.520 First, going before the altar and pouring out a libation, lighting the incense,

00:12:28.080 And both praying and making offering to celebrate them about them in front of the Iser is important, but also speaking and honoring to them is important.

00:12:50.160 Speaking to them in appreciation and making offering is something that I plan to do.

00:12:56.060 I would also like to, and it's challenging depending on the nature of the hero, explain, I don't know, tell the story of these guys in a way that is accessible and makes sense to my daughter.

00:13:10.660 those of you may not know Aubrey is going to turn five next week so I'm very excited about that

00:13:18.480 but it puts her in a spot where discussing some of the heroes can be a little bit abstract or

00:13:25.440 more challenging so trying to talk about them a little bit and get them get their name familiar

00:13:32.240 to her and have something that she can kind of touch stones to remember these people is something

00:13:39.880 that I'm endeavoring to do.

00:13:41.700 So that's what I'm doing.

00:13:45.700 Yeah, I'm not sure what John's doing.

00:13:47.560 Perhaps he will have something to offer when he joins us.

00:13:53.660 Oh, so our next question comes from an email

00:13:59.520 that was sent to vns at runesone.org.

00:14:04.460 Remember, guys, that you are able to send questions

00:14:09.440 at any literally anytime to uh vns at runestone.org and we'll get those we will compile them and we

00:14:18.640 will answer them on the the next available opportunity so that's always a thing and

00:14:24.640 we'll get it out there i know some people aren't able to ask questions live um

00:14:29.840 Um, I will get to his question, but again, an attempt to kill time, just to let John

00:14:38.840 get on, but I'll get to it in a second.

00:14:40.420 The stuff that does need to get said, guys, if you are listening to this and you enjoy

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00:15:46.280 like to do. And also another thing I'd like to say, and then we'll get off the plugs and I will

00:15:52.140 get in the meat and taters here, whether, whether the Goethe shows or not, we will get his takes

00:15:58.120 when he does arrive. But if you are listening to this show, if you are a heterosexual white person,

00:16:06.560 And if you desire to forge or perhaps reforge a relationship between yourself and the Aesir, we would invite you to join us in the Ausitru Folk Assembly.

00:16:23.040 This is a, say, really special time to the Ausitru.

00:16:29.420 It's a very special time to be involved in the AFA.

00:16:31.740 We've got a lot of projects, a lot of dreams, a lot of things that we are working to make happen.

00:16:40.440 And we're seeing beautiful changes in our life, in our community, in our AFA family every day.

00:16:47.340 We would love for you to be a part of that.

00:16:49.500 So if you're on the fence, now's the time.

00:16:53.880 Take that first step and join the Ask True Folk Assembly.

00:16:57.900 With that, I will get to the question that I mentioned we got on the email.

00:17:03.120 Tyler asks, Hey there, I imagine you talk to and counsel many people from different backgrounds who are interested in Ossetru.

00:17:13.180 How do you counsel and help people who are former or questioning Christians that are interested in Ossetru, but still have lingering concerns from their old beliefs?

00:17:25.100 For instance, how do you help them get past concerns about being wrong

00:17:31.240 and facing eternal punishment from other guys?

00:17:35.120 Thanks.

00:17:40.480 So, counseling is an interesting thing.

00:17:48.680 when you counsel somebody you want to make sure it's about them and not about you

00:17:56.840 but it might seem counterintuitive one of your best tools in

00:18:02.400 understanding how to counsel or to

00:18:11.540 understanding relationships in general is you work from empathy by you know relating things

00:18:23.360 internally to stuff that you've experienced and ways that you felt and i say that to say this

00:18:31.620 I know what that's like. I didn't, um, I didn't abandon Christianity for Ausitru. I left Christianity because it was bad. And then I found Ausitru.

00:18:47.440 so I get being scared of well what if I'm wrong

00:18:55.780 I appreciate the benefit I had in coming to it

00:19:04.240 not comparing and contrasting one to another and trying to

00:19:10.060 see which one was true and which one wasn't true

00:19:14.320 but only knowing one and having to decide even if this is true this is bad and not honorable

00:19:25.760 if this is all there is then i actively choose to be on the other side of it and that was really

00:19:34.740 scary uh because again at that point it wasn't like what if i'm wrong it's like i i am wrong

00:19:43.580 or I am in opposition to the omnipotent God of the Christians.

00:19:51.500 Wow, that's scary. What do I do? Where does that leave me?

00:19:55.980 But it also, I did not want to live a life of hypocrisy.

00:20:04.660 And some of that was a, you know, heroic, like, no, this is wrong and I take a stand against it.

00:20:11.180 But another, which this may sound silly, was almost a respectful of Jehovah, of I'm not going to stand there and profess my loyalty and say that I believe things that I don't believe and try to somehow trick or con a God into believing my insincerity, you know, in the hopes that I can hedge my bets in the afterlife.

00:20:39.220 life that's that's not a noble way to be in it's insulting it's not it's not right to do to myself

00:20:45.880 it's not right to do to whatever deity I'm I'm being dishonest with or towards and so it was

00:20:54.820 wrong and very very quickly after I left Christianity I discovered Alistair and I came

00:21:01.800 but that was informative to me something that really has stood out to me was

00:21:12.600 the stories of many of our heroes lots of our heroes especially our early heroes their

00:21:23.880 the events in their life that earned them that ascension and that spot with remembrance days

00:21:31.240 is how they reacted in the face of the onslaught of Christianity.

00:21:39.320 And there was immense pressure on these people, often at the point of their very lives,

00:21:45.960 to abandon the Iser and to become Christians.

00:21:52.600 It is profoundly meaningful to me that their loyalty to the Iser was so strong

00:22:00.600 that many of them willingly faced death or the high likelihood that ended in their death

00:22:08.100 because of of that loyalty and because of their their honor when it comes to that and it

00:22:16.900 it sets an example that i want to be able to look these men in the eye across the veil should i have

00:22:29.720 the the honor and the opportunity and i can't look them in the eye if i wouldn't have that kind

00:22:38.920 of loyalty and live nobly while in the presence of of great men who have paid that price so

00:22:49.960 So, I think that helps out of, I don't know, just my dignity as a man of wanting to be worthy of being in the company of those people.

00:23:04.900 I don't know, this is all dancing around the question.

00:23:08.100 These are just things that occurred to me.

00:23:09.560 Another thing on the subject, really specifically in the very first House of True observance I celebrated was the Day of Remembrance for King Ragbaugh of Frisier.

00:23:23.540 He had gotten worn down by the arguments.

00:23:27.060 It wasn't a theological thing for him at that point.

00:23:29.960 The overwhelming pressure was too much, and he was preparing to be baptized, and with him baptized his country.

00:23:41.780 And the last minute he asked, you know, okay, with all this stuff, but what about my ancestors?

00:23:49.900 Where are they? What's going to happen to them?

00:23:52.880 because even with the debates and the intellectualizing and the propaganda of the foe,

00:24:00.600 he still, in his very bones, felt loyalty to his kin and where he came from.

00:24:07.640 And the priest said, you know, oh, your ancestors, they were, you know, they were heathens 0.98

00:24:12.560 and they were devil worshipers and they're going to burn in hell for eternity. 0.89

00:24:18.060 And at that point, knowing that and being kind of intellectually convinced, 0.99

00:24:21.960 That might very well be the reality of it.

00:24:26.020 He chose that he would rather spend eternity burning in hell with his noble ancestors than living in heaven with a parcel of beggars.

00:24:37.540 And that meant a lot to me with how I came into the faith.

00:24:42.800 And so that was the first observance that I celebrated.

00:24:46.760 So this brings me to the real point of what you're asking.

00:24:51.960 i don't try to beat them over the head with oh you're a coward if you don't do this i don't

00:25:04.760 think that's particularly effective but i do try to appeal to them of the value in the eyes of the

00:25:12.760 I seer, of them showing courage. Doing anything great in life takes a measure of courage.

00:25:21.160 We are very quick to talk about courage in the abstract, but when it comes to applying it in

00:25:29.180 our lives, it's much harder when you realize that courage doesn't exist without consequence.

00:25:37.360 If you take the easy stand, that may be the right thing to do sometimes, seldom is, but it might be, but it's not a courageous thing.

00:25:49.680 It's only courageous when it's not the easy thing, when there is the potential of consequence.

00:25:58.880 So choosing is one of the inherent traits of noble people and of Aryan men and women.

00:26:07.360 The ability to make a choice and be proud of the choice you made.

00:26:14.400 If the only thing keeping you involved in Christianity or pulling you back perhaps towards Christianity is, wait, what if I'm wrong and will the Jewish God hurt me or punish me for betting wrong?

00:26:34.340 that's not a noble way to live your life that's not a way to look your ancestors in the face

00:26:42.160 to look yourself in the mirror or to look your children in the face

00:26:46.900 if the values of christianity are abhorrent to you but the values of alsatru and of the iser

00:26:56.740 appeal to you and speak to your soul to knowingly live ignobly just in case Jehovah is watching you

00:27:08.480 I don't think a lot of people really think of it on that level I think

00:27:15.520 they react because it's scary and I don't think that we do well to tell them it's not scary or

00:27:23.540 it shouldn't be scary. That's the reality, and it is scary. Doing the right thing when it is scary,

00:27:33.800 that's what earns the respect of the gods. It earns the respect of your ancestors. It

00:27:40.800 earns the respect of those who know you. And I think every time

00:27:46.940 any of us in our lives have approached a situation where we were scared

00:27:55.500 but we went through with the thing we knew was right anyway in the face of fear

00:28:01.400 on the other side of it we were proud on the other side of it we held our heads higher

00:28:09.620 stuck our chests out more, and became better because of it, and I think that is the thing

00:28:18.200 that I would urge them to do, and if they can't this time, then I'd urge them to come back and

00:28:26.560 do that when they can. The combination of trying to urge them to be courageous, but also leaving

00:28:36.200 the door open for them if they're not ready yet or if they can't yet those are the kind of

00:28:42.400 direction those calls go and again the particulars the specifics the person i'm talking to

00:28:48.560 all go into that but as a very very broad and general thing that's some of the way that i have

00:28:56.000 counseled people who found themselves in that predicament some have shied away from it and

00:29:02.380 returned to Christianity, and I've never heard from them again. Others were very thankful and

00:29:09.740 stand today as my brothers and sisters in the Astro Folk Assembly. So, you know, it's not a

00:29:15.580 foolproof answer, but it is one that has been very beneficial in a lot of circumstances.

00:29:25.480 So I'm going to briefly see if I have any indication of what is going on with our guests,

00:29:31.380 and if we need to recruit a stand-in guest.

00:29:36.060 He's still trying.

00:29:38.460 He needs to try something different because it's not working.

00:29:41.720 I'm talking to him on the back end.

00:29:46.440 All right.

00:29:47.300 So they're currently trying to figure something out.

00:29:50.360 In the meantime,

00:29:51.340 and this is where you will see the value of having a guest.

00:29:55.480 So initially when I did these shows,

00:29:57.600 I was doing them just me.

00:30:02.260 and it wasn't on victory never sleeps it was my monthly uh forget what they were called but

00:30:08.420 monthly i would get on here and do a live where i would answer questions and i would talk to folks

00:30:14.020 and i really loved doing that um but yeah so in doing that i had the luxury of being able to

00:30:23.620 win my guests or okay so not doing that if you would have seen me do that

00:30:28.020 you would have noticed all of the awkward pauses now i have the luxury of being able to

00:30:35.700 do the little look on the side look in the chat room look for any communication from

00:30:41.300 my amazing producer nick while my guest is talking now i've got to kind of awkwardly do

00:30:49.140 some of those things while there's there's dead air or there's me babbling and losing my place

00:30:55.140 as i check them but working on it um our next situation

00:31:05.540 uh so try to find one that's not john specific cool so rachel asks could you please uh theory

00:31:13.220 comes anyways it's very dark over there john so i'm gonna ask this question while he gets his

00:31:21.140 lighting set up could you please illuminate some uh ironic so could you please illuminate some

00:31:27.140 recent nomenclature changes what is the relationship of ostara to austra and hex not to norman not so

00:31:35.380 absolutely um we are still not done with little changes here and there but what we have been

00:31:44.180 doing over time this is a this is a meta thing over over the course of years we've talked about

00:31:58.740 how also true is a living faith and we want to always be doing our very best to get it right

00:32:07.060 we also know that no matter how hard we try to get it right we will never get it perfect

00:32:16.300 but we want to always trend closer and closer and closer and closer to that perfection

00:32:23.200 we always want to strive for that perfection i've often said on here that

00:32:30.460 you know from beyond the veil when i look back and see you know

00:32:37.060 I'll hear you go through number five or number six.

00:32:41.580 I really hope that they are doing this so much better than I am, so much better than we are today.

00:32:50.920 I hope they have advanced in ways that we haven't even thought of.

00:32:54.940 I hope that through that amount of time of the gift cycle, they have come to know the Aesir better and build those relationships full of victory and revelations and dreams manifesting before them in ways we couldn't even conceive of.

00:33:19.020 we put them on that course and propelled them towards that by doing the very best

00:33:26.260 today that we can to get stuff right so when we look at the astrofolk assembly's holidays

00:33:36.620 we had a collection of

00:33:39.340 swedish norwegian german anglo-saxon modern english

00:33:48.100 and Icelandic names what we've talked about in the uh or what I I wrote about in the

00:33:56.800 is we very intentionally are choosing to utilize Old Norse nomenclature when

00:34:08.840 when getting

00:34:13.080 when doing naming conventions when talking about the elements of our lore the elements of our

00:34:26.280 metaphysics and the particular workings of the house of true folk assembly as a church

00:34:35.740 And we do this for a couple of reasons.

00:34:39.200 So this is kind of a meta thing.

00:34:41.220 And if my answer seems meandering, please let me know if I can clarify.

00:34:49.280 But I think that there's not a right way to do it without some of the side pieces.

00:34:53.080 I've also mentioned how the more your life is cohesive and the more all of the pieces fit and synergize with one another, the better everything works.

00:35:11.300 The more whole, the more hail, as our ancestors might have said, your life, your person, and your experience in the world is.

00:35:23.080 I think that's true with many things.

00:35:28.780 So to do that, rather than have, when I say eclectic, I don't mean eclectic in a, you know, global diversity sense.

00:35:39.500 But I mean eclectic in a trying to piece fragmentary things together over the course of centuries and over the course of thousands upon thousands of square miles.

00:35:53.080 So we have a strange labyrinth to find our way towards the best way of doing things.

00:36:03.460 So what I've sought to do is to try to bring those things back into a system that's unified with the vast majority of our corpus of lore.

00:36:19.420 to bring things together in a way that's unified in conception.

00:36:27.820 One of the things that happens when we use many different words from a variety of Arian languages

00:36:37.100 is we have an awkward overlap of meaning.

00:36:40.780 We'll have two words that mean the same thing and are based off the same root,

00:36:45.700 but that we've kind of developed subtle differences in.

00:36:48.900 and it causes some confusion. So the effort's been made to put our official, our ecclesiastical

00:36:59.820 language into Old Norse or to just use the common English. And I say English, the common

00:37:08.820 lingua franca of wherever you are. If you are a Spaniard consuming this, then the way to do it

00:37:16.400 there would be Spanish or Old Norse. The way to do it here in the United States is English or

00:37:24.480 referring to the terms, the names of the people from the lore, and the names of our holy observances

00:37:32.800 in the Old Norse. So it brings us to a number of our holidays are already that or very close.

00:37:43.680 um so some of them there's no change at all to the nomenclature of them

00:37:50.680 but some of them there are so to take you through the course of the year uh Thorobloat

00:37:57.660 is Thorobloat it's an Icelandic holiday it is the same as it would have been in the original

00:38:05.920 Old Norse for the same reasons. No change to that one. Biggest one you might notice is in February,

00:38:15.520 Charming of the Plough. So there's been a long-standing

00:38:21.600 back and forth in Ausatru between referring to this celebration

00:38:27.520 as disting, which is a modern Swedish word, or as Charming of the Plough.

00:38:35.920 And for similar reasons, this was always one of the most important celebrations of the year for our ancestors.

00:38:46.680 in Sweden

00:38:50.280 this was a time

00:38:52.380 where Ausitur from

00:38:54.220 all around would go to

00:38:56.180 Uppsala and

00:38:57.620 make this one of their most

00:39:00.360 important festivals where they all

00:39:02.160 came together and honored

00:39:04.280 the changing

00:39:06.200 of the season, of the

00:39:07.920 waking up of the land, and

00:39:10.260 of the enchantment

00:39:12.020 of the goddesses

00:39:14.420 of the Ausitur

00:39:16.000 um this was celebrated in denmark by the charming of the plow by charming implements of farming

00:39:26.220 and of breaking open the earth and making way for fertility of the tradition of

00:39:33.600 digging the first furrow ceremonially there's no conflict here and it's celebrated the same way but

00:39:45.340 we want to the naming that we're going to use going forward is this decent thing and decent

00:39:53.580 thing is the word that distant comes from it will notice the similarity and it means the

00:40:00.140 thing or the assembly of the dc or it's important to realize like so many of the terms when we refer

00:40:08.300 to our, uh, the spiritual, the metaphysical nature of what we do.

00:40:15.360 There's some overlap.

00:40:17.200 Desir are certainly our deified female ancestors, but as a term, they also mean the goddesses.

00:40:24.700 So this is the assembly of the goddesses.

00:40:26.880 The idea is our goddesses coming together and preparing us, preparing the implements of work for the year, preparing the land for that implementation of labor, preparing and caring for the men who go out into the fields.

00:40:47.940 It's preparing for the feminine, preparing and celebrating, decorating and charming the masculine that we might go out and work our will in the world.

00:41:01.540 And it's really kind of a beautiful thing that way. And I think this adds an element that's long been missing to the celebration.

00:41:08.520 And it brings the naming back in line with this is quite literally what our ancestors in the period of our, the lore that's come to us, this is what they called this particular observance.

00:41:25.060 So that's why we're doing that.

00:41:29.100 That is followed in, and this is directly one of the questions, in March by Austra.

00:41:36.120 so up until and including last month and these names you know you will notice them as the years

00:41:43.200 progress nobody's doing it wrong if you call them you know the things we called them last year the

00:41:49.080 things you traditionally call them this isn't because we've been doing things wrong this is

00:41:53.680 because we're trying to increasingly do things a little bit more right and one of the things is

00:41:59.800 Ostara is a German word to celebrate our spring dawn goddess.

00:42:06.600 The Old English celebrated her under the name of Eostra.

00:42:13.340 Continentally, or as it's come down over the years, literally the word Easter.

00:42:20.260 Phonetically, you'll notice that some will bring up,

00:42:24.920 oh, you're doing it wrong because we don't see her name attested in the Old Norse sources.

00:42:31.120 And that's correct. We don't. But we also do know that she exists. We do know that she's an

00:42:37.080 extremely important goddess amongst our folk. And we also know that we have actively engaged

00:42:43.160 in the gift cycle with her. And she has faithfully done her part in that gift cycle over the years.

00:42:49.620 so it's inconceivable for us to to cut her out or to not celebrate this one of the most important

00:42:57.720 uh holidays of our ancestral faith the fact so much that when christianity overtook europe

00:43:05.020 they couldn't even affect the name of this holiday and it comes down to us you know

00:43:11.080 basically unaltered in in the easter that uh the christians celebrate without fully understanding

00:43:18.200 where it comes from in each of those cases it is the local languages word for east but not just east

00:43:30.360 and i'm sure there is a technical language term for this but it's the combination of east and

00:43:40.440 pretty girl name so um i'm trying to think of an example and it would be something silly and

00:43:47.400 stupid but we if we were to take the modern name for something in english and you add a

00:43:59.160 female suffix to it and so that's basically what is being done in this case 0.96

00:44:06.200 you will notice it sounds almost identical there's a reason for that that's why this sounds the way

00:44:10.760 it does in our languages it is the old norse word for east and if east was said in the feminine

00:44:20.760 the name austra so that's why that's occurring there is no difference it is the same goddess

00:44:27.560 it is just using the uh the um

00:44:31.640 um, the mother tongue of our lore. Uh, you'll notice that following in, uh, in, uh, April

00:44:42.080 with Hexenot. So for the longest, and I should also note, there's many times over,

00:44:49.560 yeah, sorry, it's easy to get distracted because there's a lot of pieces on it.

00:44:53.820 So, with Hexenacht, for a long time, we celebrated this under the name of Volpurgisnacht, as many of you who've been around Oster for a long time might be aware.

00:45:09.380 But that's always made me very uncomfortable, and it was important for me to change that.

00:45:14.880 Volpurgisnacht, naming-wise, is the eve of the Christian feast day of St. Volperga, or Volpergus.

00:45:23.820 And we don't want to name our stuff after they are saints.

00:45:30.220 We don't want to name anything we do after someone else or some other group of people's conception of us.

00:45:40.500 It's the reason that we refer to ourselves as Alcetru and not as pagan or as heathen.

00:45:46.860 Those are names applied to us by our enemies to denigrate us.

00:45:50.500 Ausatru is a name applied to us, by us, to positively express our loyalty to our gods.

00:46:00.540 And in a similar way, the other little-known variant of the name in German was Hexennat, which means Witches' Night.

00:46:11.120 So to make the things match up and synergize and to get our language in line with the lore, we move that to Nornanot, which literally means Witches' Night.

00:46:25.640 So it's the exact same as Hexanot, or it's Witches' Night, if that's what you'd like to call it.

00:46:33.240 Following that in May is May Day.

00:46:37.360 Why do we call it May Day?

00:46:38.980 I don't know.

00:46:41.520 uh it happens to be in may it's the start of may but it's funny because all of the reasons

00:46:48.320 spiritually that we celebrate it and even the exact time of year it celebrated in

00:46:54.720 our ancestors in the time of our lore they celebrated it too people act like it's a

00:47:01.360 very modern invention it's not but the name of mayday is but uh summer mall is what our

00:47:09.440 ancestors called it and it was again for the same reasons the celebrating of the virility

00:47:15.840 of the beginning of spring we celebrate it the same way with um same way you are accustomed to

00:47:22.760 with the dancing around the maypole it is all the things that you were used to calling mayday and if

00:47:27.400 you want to still call it mayday go ahead but we're officially calling it summer mall like our

00:47:33.240 ancestors did honoring that tradition that like all of the things that we do should be eternal

00:47:40.440 and i think that aligning our naming scheme with that norse nomenclature does that it brings these

00:47:51.400 things all together and it aligns them in a way that makes them eternal and not situational on a

00:47:58.120 time or a place but in line with the eternal nature of our lore it's followed by midsummer

00:48:05.720 which is midsummer which is the same thing you can say it with whatever whether you want the

00:48:12.840 ed the rune in it or not means the same thing is what our ancestors called it for all of the same

00:48:19.740 reasons. That one's not a big difference. Sigurbloat is Sigurbloat, because again, that's

00:48:28.760 where the name comes from. That's what our ancestors did. Freyfaxi is Freyfaxi. Happens

00:48:35.660 to be an Old Norse name from an Old Norse saga, and so there's no change there.

00:48:41.680 uh uh host bloat is the harvest bloat and winter finding again it sounds a little bit awkward till

00:48:51.300 you're used to saying it but it's what our ancestors called this exact ceremony that

00:48:58.860 comes from the time of our lore that is well attested that was extremely important

00:49:03.860 and we're not changing anything we're doing about it other than referring to it as our ancestors did

00:49:11.680 as a houseblood, which means, you know, harvestblood.

00:49:21.160 Winter nights, you can keep calling it winter nights, or what our ancestors used to call it

00:49:27.440 is veterniter, which means winter nights. Again, this was a well-attested thing that was done in

00:49:35.420 our ancestors' day. It is an ancient custom, an ancient tradition, and it was celebrated the same

00:49:41.240 way for the longest time we would hear that no no no uh desir bloat was done in the spring

00:49:50.840 and in some instances it was but recently finding reading our lore no they also did a uh in different

00:49:58.600 places did a desir bloat during this this winter nights period and celebration just as we've always

00:50:06.680 done in the afa and has become midsummers typically have been our big event but early on in the astro

00:50:16.040 folk assembly before we focused on midsummer winter nights or veteran nighter was the event

00:50:24.040 and that connection with our d sear was some of the if not the most powerful bloats

00:50:32.680 or a blowtar that i've ever been a part of so

00:50:38.440 there's that it again goes without saying it's literally winter nights in old norse

00:50:43.400 there's i'm here you blowed just feast to the iron her yard just what you would call it in old

00:50:49.320 norse i don't think it's should be confusing for folks i think it captures all of what we do i think

00:50:54.840 it makes infinite sense and if you just want to keep saying feast the owner you are you're welcome

00:50:59.640 to. We're just going to refer to it as Einherjablot and carry on in that vein. And then Yule

00:51:06.420 is Yule. Yes, we'd like to use the Old Norse spelling of it because it's cool and it keeps

00:51:13.040 everything lined up and in harmony. Again, it's worth making the point that our gods are gods of

00:51:18.660 order. The more we can straighten things up and make them orderly, they synergize better, they

00:51:24.860 fit better and I think there's a value in doing that and keeping things orderly but yeah it's

00:51:32.200 you'll exact same way that you would normally celebrate it so I don't think it's a big change

00:51:36.600 there but I do understand we become really used to how we do stuff and tradition's important

00:51:42.160 I am not trying to erode or take away tradition in any way but I am trying to solidify going

00:51:48.640 forward doing things in the best way we can as we learn new stuff sometimes the question gets asked

00:51:57.280 well how come that's not what they did in i don't pick a point in the 1980s or the 90s

00:52:05.760 and one of the reasons because we know more now than we did then we have access to a lot more

00:52:11.920 primary sources we have access to translated materials that weren't available to everybody

00:52:18.960 back then the reasons things were named the way they were named in the 1970s and 80s is because

00:52:24.800 they did the best they could to name them the best way that they knew how in an age where they were

00:52:31.520 they were game to get pretty viking larpy they were game to go really hard on the old norse if

00:52:37.060 they knew it but our people didn't know as much then the more we've learned and grown the more

00:52:46.300 we've drawn closer to a better understanding of how to do this right the more that we are

00:52:54.460 you know tweaking things here and there to facilitate that and I truly hope we never stop

00:53:00.880 doing that. But that is the answer to the question. And during that time, not only has

00:53:07.760 John joined us, but he's got his lighting set up. He was on some kind of a journey. Now he has

00:53:12.760 found himself back home. Welcome, John. Should I say welcome, Goofy Rock.

00:53:22.240 Thank you, sir. It's lovely to be here with everyone. I apologize for being late getting

00:53:28.780 in we had uh technical issues that journey was part of me freaking out because i couldn't get

00:53:34.620 any signal and i just jet i i mean i'm in i'm in slippers and and a and a good top i just

00:53:42.380 jetted down to the city because i was like no i'm gonna i'm gonna pick up bars somewhere

00:53:47.500 and then uh brought them home with me i guess um that's the way to do it so

00:53:54.060 So I mentioned to folks a little bit about the, all of the celebratory occurrences of

00:54:05.360 Ostara at Thorshof this year, or should I say Austra at Thorshof this year, and one

00:54:13.600 of those being your ordination.

00:54:16.120 We are tremendously honored to have you amongst the Gothar, and I was very honored to ordain

00:54:23.620 you there. For folks that don't know, I know you've been on the program before kind of

00:54:29.000 peripherally. Tell people a little bit about who you are, what you do, what your background

00:54:35.960 is.

00:54:37.980 All right. Yeah, it was a great honor to be ordained at Ostra. And I love Thor's Hof.

00:54:47.880 I love specifically the Hoff there.

00:54:52.280 So myself, my name is John Rock.

00:54:55.760 I live in Indiana.

00:54:56.860 I am from Indianapolis.

00:55:02.100 Let's see here.

00:55:03.560 I have been a member of the AFA not real long, since July of 21.

00:55:12.000 And I hopped in almost immediately as an apprentice.

00:55:16.380 and uh and i have been trying to get things rolling in indiana and the surrounding areas

00:55:24.260 since then so um i work in auditing you know i i have a background in finance and accounting

00:55:34.520 and um and before that i used to work for a living until they they shut the factories down

00:55:41.940 and sent john to college because he was tired of looking for blue collar jobs so

00:55:50.740 that that is my story in brief um

00:55:57.940 as pertains to the afa you know all right well

00:56:05.940 so getting with some of the questions how do you plan to honor

00:56:11.940 Both today's hero, Hauken Jarl, and tomorrow's hero, Thelbo.

00:56:18.460 So we are having a Norninat, the artist previously known as Hexanath, moot on Saturday.

00:56:29.820 And we have recently begun our event structure with an ancestor's bloat before we do anything else.

00:56:47.280 And so as part of that ancestral bloat, we will pay homage to whoever the hero of the month is.

00:56:58.360 this month having two

00:57:00.380 we'll mention them both

00:57:03.000 but

00:57:08.680 yeah so that's nice

00:57:11.340 so we're going to do that

00:57:12.920 you know we

00:57:13.520 honor them

00:57:15.840 we talk a little bit about their life

00:57:17.980 we

00:57:18.500 I'll mention them when I do

00:57:22.220 the ancestral bloat

00:57:24.340 when we get upstairs in our

00:57:26.340 building and

00:57:27.240 And, you know, we will probably set a plate aside for each one of them.

00:57:34.000 That's something that we have often done in the past.

00:57:38.480 All right.

00:57:39.840 Well, Sierra would like to know, we'll go with you, Rock,

00:57:42.900 what is your favorite type of corn?

00:57:45.260 And secondly, what is your favorite corn with a K song?

00:57:53.680 So it's a myth.

00:57:55.220 that you know that's a meme that got played out we're not really corn crazed maniacs here in

00:58:02.060 indiana we i rarely you know we we don't we don't rely on corn to survive here um and i never

00:58:11.560 listened to the band corn either i i did you know you i got a shirt at the state fair that was given

00:58:17.260 to a friend of mine that just had a picture of indiana on it wait is that how it was yeah with

00:58:24.000 and it said corn you know and they stole the logo it's one of those cheap

00:58:28.480 you know flea market style shirts but we're not really the corn crazed savages that the

00:58:35.840 the memes would have everyone believe we're we're very standard people out here

00:58:42.880 there you have it

00:58:54.000 Clearly, clearly, that was very well played.

00:58:58.640 Thank you.

00:58:59.520 Thank you.

00:59:00.680 Those of you who are listening on the podcast missed the joke, but that's okay.

00:59:05.300 He decided to quaff from a can of canned corn, much to the amusement of my wife, who I can

00:59:12.220 hear downstairs.

00:59:14.240 Yeah, that's whole kernel sweet.

00:59:16.660 That's good corn.

00:59:17.540 You know, here in Indiana, we do a lot of feed corn, but, you know, sweet corn comes

00:59:22.940 out in uh in corn veritas so threw me for a loop that was very well done that's clever thank you

00:59:36.300 i'd like to give a special shout out to folk builders sarah who does so much for our church

00:59:42.780 every single day thank you for everything that you've done and continue to do this comes from uh

00:59:48.620 gothy mayo but it is well deserved uh sarah you're awesome and uh

00:59:55.900 bode appreciates you and so do the rest of us i appreciate you too sarah i'm a big fan of sarah

01:00:02.380 there you go we're we're sarah fans here this evening um oh so in the time frame here

01:00:10.220 cory in minnesota donated sixty dollars to the new york's off fund thank you cory much appreciated

01:00:17.900 um that gets us closer everything gets us closer and we appreciate all of you

01:00:23.100 who are donating this evening and who have donated and continue you guys

01:00:32.540 i don't think that i can impress upon y'all just how astounding it is to watch

01:00:39.580 the generosity and selflessness of a great number of our folk and our membership

01:00:49.180 when it comes to anything they're donating to be it financially or through their labor

01:00:57.500 or through just giving of themselves i have been very blessed in my life to be surrounded by some

01:01:05.460 truly, truly amazing people. And you guys and your generosity is such a massive part of why

01:01:12.960 we are able to accomplish as much as we are able to in the short amount of time and with our

01:01:20.420 current numbers. And I think as a, I guess, backhanded compliment or testimony to that,

01:01:27.440 looking at our membership and the time frame we accomplish in, our enemies

01:01:36.020 fully believe that we must be funded by Mexican drug cartels. We must be funded by the FBI as a

01:01:47.000 honeypot operation. There must be some nefarious way that we are funded because it is literally

01:01:55.060 inconceivable to them that we are able to be successful in the way that we've been.

01:02:01.980 You all, your generosity, your loyalty, and your devotion is a massive factor in that. I don't ever

01:02:09.980 want to discount the blessings of our Iseer that have helped us get here, but you guys giving of

01:02:15.560 yourself is a huge part of it, and it's much appreciated. Sarah, who just got high praise,

01:02:23.460 It is well-deserved because she donated $25 to the Njordshoff Fund,

01:02:28.260 and she donated that before she got the praise, just so everybody knows.

01:02:32.520 Appreciate that, Sarah. Thank you very much.

01:02:42.320 So our Indiana folk builder wants to know,

01:02:46.820 are our gods the same gods as our prehistoric ancestors from the steppe? If yes, did the

01:02:55.100 prehistoric Proto-Indo-European gods interact with the tribes in different ways, leading to

01:03:05.240 unique pantheons yes and yes john elaborate

01:03:13.220 so yes um very specifically

01:03:19.000 so our people come most likely as near as we can tell from one beginning point uh a lot of the

01:03:30.620 Modern science thinks that that's, you know, somewhere in Ukraine, the Euromot, you know, I have friends that will argue it's from somewhere in the, you know, in the polls.

01:03:42.360 But, you know, as our people spread in a diaspora, they took our gods and our initial religion with them.

01:03:52.260 And so you notice there are some obvious similarities between the evolution of our gods amongst our different groups of people.

01:04:04.980 So that's why you'll notice there are similarities between the Hellenics and the Slavs and the Germanics.

01:04:11.300 Um, and there is a, a theory that, you know, I, I believe, and, and I think it's logical

01:04:21.780 that some of that is the original stories in the original pantheon of our gods, which is

01:04:29.140 shaped a little, um, you know, as, as it traveled across all of, uh, Europe and, you know,

01:04:37.200 obviously it's followed us now to the new world, but that some of it too is a result of that

01:04:45.100 pantheon of our indigenous Aryan gods interacting with those different tribes of our people

01:04:53.640 in different ways, as the question mentioned, because, you know, that's what those people

01:05:02.060 needed at that time. And, and I've, you know, the Alshiriogothi has, has spoken about that before

01:05:07.620 that, you know, it's the way that our gods who are eternal and ubiquitous to our people

01:05:16.700 choose to interact with groups of our people deals to a certain extent with who those people are

01:05:24.540 and what position they find themselves in so they may have interacted with the ancient greek

01:05:33.020 in a different way that they would have interacted with the i don't the the common era germans so i

01:05:45.900 I, as the Alshira Goethe said, the answer is yes, but that's sort of some of the theory behind

01:05:54.880 why that happened. A little bit of it is us twisting the stories as time and distance grew

01:06:00.940 between us, and then some of it is the actual interaction that those people who were faithful

01:06:06.280 with our gods had with those gods, and, you know, that's why they may have championed one particular

01:06:13.020 god over another in the hierarchy depending on the scenarios they found themselves in

01:06:19.100 not only as that people and in that location but in that period of time

01:06:23.580 certainly um what what gothi rock said but uh

01:06:35.460 this is why it's very important to start on the right foot with how we approach religion and

01:06:51.840 um any any authentic study of not only our faith but other faiths

01:06:59.220 What I think is all too often done is we start with a linguistic, a scholarly approach to one group of people at a certain time.

01:07:18.620 And we have a number of sociological and anthropological theories about Dumazilian functions and myth structure and all of these things.

01:07:39.740 And we try to force divinity to fit whatever we learned in whatever branch of study or education that we're comfortable with and look at it through that lens.

01:07:55.800 And I think that's dishonest, and we don't do that. We don't try to build a relationship with our friends and our family based on studies in biology or cultural anthropology or understanding of the concept of archetypes.

01:08:18.780 No, you see them as individuals. You get to know them. You learn about them through interaction, through talking with them and trying to get them know them better. You don't force them to fit your preconceived slots that you've made for functionality or for cultural tradition.

01:08:41.840 Our gods are real, they exist, they are living entities.

01:08:46.800 If that is true, which it is, then we have to follow the logic for it.

01:08:52.700 Certainly, if these are the gods that formed us and shaped us as people,

01:08:58.160 then they have to be as old as our races, or certainly the major ones of them do,

01:09:04.800 the ones that are implicated in the creation of us, they have to be as old as us.

01:09:11.180 And surely, when we understand the migratory patterns of our folk over the history of the millennia since the Ice Age, we can see clearly in linguistics the march of one race of people through the world.

01:09:30.340 and it's over time and space developing different cultural settings

01:09:37.200 and linguistics as time goes on,

01:09:39.700 we can trace all of those things back to a root.

01:09:43.500 Certainly just as the genetics of those people share a common origin,

01:09:49.620 the metagenetics in connection with the divinity of our people

01:09:54.880 share that as well.

01:09:56.240 So, of course, the other pantheons of Aryan gods are a reflection of our gods through the eyes and the linguistics and the cultural context of that group of our cousins as time, space, and migration have separated things out.

01:10:23.720 So it's funny because when we see the very clear one-for-ones between like, for example, you see, you know, Wotan, Woden, and Odin, and they're obviously the same.

01:10:46.320 nobody really contests that but when you move it one step further it starts becoming

01:10:52.640 a little bit more confusing there's a lot of overlap between closely related groups of people

01:10:59.280 but the further you get it apart over time and linguistic variation it never works out as clean

01:11:06.400 as we want to where this god equals that god equals this story is the same as this story

01:11:14.320 But I say that the similarities are astounding.

01:11:18.580 The obvious correlations are myriad.

01:11:22.820 Finding everything exactly one for one, it doesn't work that way.

01:11:27.300 That's not that clean.

01:11:29.400 I know that everyone out there might wish that it were.

01:11:32.940 Shoot, I wish it was.

01:11:34.000 It would be easier. 0.85

01:11:35.560 But it doesn't work that way.

01:11:37.080 And it's one of the reasons we could drive ourselves insane trying to forcibly match all of the nuance, but that doesn't really move us forward or get us there.

01:11:54.600 What does is choosing what to go with and going with that wholeheartedly, which is why we have embraced the Norse nomenclature for the understanding of Aryan religion.

01:12:09.240 It is our best, our best preserved, most complete, most complete in a time of the most piety collection of lore and understanding of how we have related to our gods.

01:12:27.300 And it is, in fact, that understanding, that verbiage through that lens that the All-Father reached out to our founder, Stephen Anthony McNallan, in 1968, to get all of this started that we do today.

01:12:48.860 it is in fact in that concept and that understanding that the reawakening of our folk

01:12:57.860 in the last century occurred and that is what's brought us to where we are that has been shown

01:13:06.660 to have the divine approval of the iser time and time again and the better we align with that and

01:13:14.520 And the more we build comprehensively upon that system, the greater blessings we have and continue to experience.

01:13:24.460 But yes, absolutely.

01:13:26.560 If there's, you know, when our people go from one valley to the next, you don't spring up a whole new pantheon of gods.

01:13:34.520 That's just not logically how that works.

01:13:36.900 Certainly, these are the gods that have been with our folk since the dawn of our folk, since ancient Hyperborea, and before.

01:13:47.560 And these will continue to be the gods of our folk for eternity.

01:13:56.820 Whitehorse Ausatru.

01:13:58.740 I actually don't mean to interrupt, but I didn't know we were playing a drinking game tonight.

01:14:02.260 But if you scroll down, apparently we're about to start one.

01:14:06.900 Ooh, I don't know the rules.

01:14:10.020 Scroll to the bottom.

01:14:12.840 I'm on it.

01:14:15.280 So, that said, White Horse, Ausatru.

01:14:19.880 I've been trying to understand the myth where Odin and the giant race, and a giant race on their horses.

01:14:27.700 Then Thor destroys the giant and gets trapped underneath the leg of the Jotun.

01:14:32.140 Could the horse mean Ausatru versus Christianity or versus Rokatru?

01:14:39.880 John, what are your thoughts?

01:14:44.360 I would say that, yes, it could mean those things, but that doesn't mean that it was meant to represent those things.

01:14:51.560 It is easy when we look at any myth or anything in the lore that teaches a lesson, particularly something that teaches universal lessons, and then we take and we plug very specific players into it.

01:15:13.180 so i you know it could mean that it it could mean i mean i i could come up with scenarios

01:15:20.300 in which it represented anything that any singular individual found oppressive

01:15:28.140 um i but you know and that's not to dismiss that manner of thought because one of the things that

01:15:35.820 makes our mythos so timeless is the ability to take it and to take its lessons and to apply them

01:15:44.620 in ways that are meaningful for you and for different periods of time that's why they

01:15:51.660 survive and thrive when other things are forgotten

01:15:59.420 well put that is that is the caution

01:16:05.820 it is very and a lot of the things that we talk about on the show are directionality

01:16:14.300 no that's not what the lore is about but that's not what that piece of lore

01:16:17.580 is about in the sense that that's not what the original intent was that's not

01:16:23.500 what the understanding was at the time because our lore and our in our mythos is eternal um

01:16:30.140 um to think that it references like roca true wasn't a thing until the 1990s to think that

01:16:40.700 that was some kind of just for that they they prophesied this bit of lore it's just the wrong

01:16:46.820 direction to go clearly that's not what the law is about but as uh go through rock said

01:16:53.720 It is applicable to that. The point of our lore isn't to recognize an ancient story about an ancient happening. It's to learn a lesson by those stories. It is to be able to take the lore and apply it or see points of similarity or have things that we struggle with in our life harken back to lessons learned from that lore and through understandings of that lore.

01:17:21.560 so it's not at all wrong to have that thought it's just in what direction it goes you're applying the

01:17:27.800 lore to that scenario people didn't write the lore in response to that scenario the

01:17:35.880 directionality matters but no finding parallels is that's doing it right just don't forget you

01:17:44.680 know the order of operations the lore comes before the circumstance the circumstance doesn't create

01:17:50.200 the lord um uh matt what did you think of the trt world's segment on the afa um first and i i mean

01:18:05.640 this wholeheartedly it was beautiful um like it was well shot with the camera like the the

01:18:12.360 cinematography of it was really well done and it was a very nice looking video

01:18:18.120 So I think it would have been more effective to vilify us if the presenter would have gone maybe 75, maybe 60 to 75 percent as hard as he did.

01:18:37.980 sounding super concerned about the evil racists

01:18:45.060 was a little bit too much of a put on sinister tone

01:18:49.620 the let's play villain music

01:18:53.200 when the AFA said stuff

01:18:55.480 they swung so hard that it made it a little bit funny

01:19:00.180 I think it didn't have the effect that they wanted

01:19:04.200 I think it made any threat seem comical and not threatening.

01:19:10.960 And I think it made a lot of people very aware that they were just trying to do a hit piece, which is fine.

01:19:19.060 We don't know that going in most of the time.

01:19:22.680 We highly suspect that every time.

01:19:25.660 Um, that said the random let's get a NAACP guy that we found in the area that doesn't know anything about us and just get him to interject about some experience he had as a, as a young, young man with the clan doesn't have anything to do with us.

01:19:48.580 There was a lot of little random things.

01:19:50.960 I don't think they had a lot of success finding counterpoints, so they had to reach on that a lot.

01:19:59.020 But that said, it put us before audiences that didn't know we existed.

01:20:06.080 It generated and continues to generate interest in who we are and what we're doing

01:20:13.260 and prompts other people to learn a little bit more and get our faces and our our message out

01:20:19.740 in the world so i'm glad i did it i would absolutely do it again um yeah so that's my

01:20:28.780 thought on it i mean it was silly i enjoyed looking at it i think that um witness fond

01:20:33.660 did an amazing job i thought he did awesome he represented us very very well and very proud of

01:20:38.860 that beautiful shots of our people and of lord thor's hoff i thought all of that was really cool

01:20:48.140 and i think it was a really pretty video um again it's unfortunate i had uh and i know that svan had

01:20:57.180 a long interview with the guy i had i think mine was about two hours and 45 minutes so we talked

01:21:05.020 about a lot of things that i wish would have been in there i wish would have been covered but i don't

01:21:08.780 I don't think those things fit the narrative that they were trying hard to go after.

01:21:14.880 But, no, I mean, I'm glad it occurred.

01:21:17.620 Certainly, I would much prefer if they were glowing, you know, celebratory pieces about the AFA.

01:21:24.500 But that's just not the world we live in right now.

01:21:30.940 I was here to go with you.

01:21:32.160 What is your favorite day at the gym?

01:21:34.080 Uh, how important is our physical health in relation to our spirituality?

01:21:42.100 It depends on how my routine is set up.

01:21:48.040 Um,

01:21:50.400 nah, back day.

01:21:56.060 Back day, especially if back day is paired with back and biceps, that's my favorite day at the gym.

01:22:02.860 uh especially if that includes deadlifts that day deadlifts have always been my best lift

01:22:10.580 so yeah back and biceps is my favorite day at the gym how important is it extremely important

01:22:18.580 um you guys will recall our soul complex is multifaceted we are not some kind of holy soul

01:22:28.840 inside of, you know, a decrepit or gross body and a gross existence.

01:22:37.580 No, life is beautiful.

01:22:39.660 Our body, both in the sense of our physical body, our leak,

01:22:45.360 but also in our hammer or the way that we project ourself,

01:22:50.960 is extremely important to our soul.

01:22:53.720 Your physical appearance speaks volumes about, so beside the point, your physical characteristics are literally pieces of your ancestors showing through in your features and in your genes.

01:23:09.360 But the condition that you keep your body and your physical self in is a, it's of, it can't be overstated of how much spiritual importance is in that.

01:23:26.200 It shows, it speaks volumes to your dedication, to your discipline, to your how much you, how serious you are about who you are and how you present yourself.

01:23:46.860 It speaks to your health or your lack of health.

01:23:50.800 being good looking and especially good looking in the ways you can control. And I did want to

01:23:58.080 add this to it. Being in a healthy and appealing physical condition is hugely important.

01:24:05.900 Also packaging it well, dressing nicely. You know, if you're a lady doing your makeup, doing your

01:24:12.440 hair, looking pretty. If you're a man trying to look nice, taking care of, you know, if you choose

01:24:18.900 to have facial hair keeping it maintained of trying to present yourself in the best way

01:24:26.660 that is powerful it's powerful to your friends it's powerful to your enemies it's powerful to

01:24:33.300 the world i am aided tremendously when the people who support me or who stand next to me or who

01:24:42.980 are associated with me look good your so take this back to the uh to the video that was just

01:24:54.900 talked about when we have our people showing up looking good standing tall and presenting their

01:25:01.380 best self it does it makes an impact um sublingually on the audience when your opposition

01:25:15.780 doesn't show up looking nice or doesn't look like they take care of themselves all of those things

01:25:23.220 communicate volumes on a sublingual level. So much of our communication is done through

01:25:31.940 nonverbal communication. I think somewhere north of 60%. We pick up so much on what we perceive

01:25:40.420 in all our other senses. It doesn't matter what, I mean, that's silly. It obviously matters what 0.88

01:25:49.480 someone says. But beyond that, it matters tremendously that what they say match the

01:25:56.380 person that's in front of you is who they are presenting verbally the same as who they

01:26:01.620 are presenting physically. The impression you make by how well you take care of yourself

01:26:07.860 and by especially in a spot where you are choosing how you show up and you are choosing

01:26:13.440 how much effort you put on being healthy on being physically fit all of those things project your

01:26:23.680 ability to be effective in the world around you with every single person that interacts with you

01:26:32.800 every person that sees you from a distance and when they associate the person they're talking

01:26:38.640 with with bigger things if they see you you look good you are presenting success you are presenting

01:26:48.240 health you are presenting uh confidence and you are wearing a hammer they associate 0.96

01:26:55.120 the package you are presenting with our faith and that cuts both ways if you look like a slob 0.99

01:27:03.120 and you're engaged in churlish behavior, and you're fat and you look bad, that speaks about 0.99

01:27:11.040 who we are also. So it is tremendously important and can't be overstated. And all of us, and I'll 0.63

01:27:17.660 say this too, all of us, wherever you are right now, that's where you are and we all start

01:27:23.060 someplace. Each and every one of us can present a better version of ourselves tomorrow. And all of

01:27:29.620 us should be very committed and very willing to help all of our brothers and sisters to present

01:27:35.540 that better version of themselves tomorrow if they want that help and that's something they

01:27:40.380 desire to do and we try really hard to do that within the afa john what do you do you have

01:27:46.600 thoughts about the effect of physical fitness spiritually and in the world around us

01:27:54.960 not much that you haven't already said i mean i would echo that you know obviously everything

01:28:03.420 you said is absolutely true i mean you know you yourself you are you're a flag you know and and

01:28:11.300 you are representative of who the internal you really is not who you think you are but you

01:28:17.480 actually are because everyone wants to be, you know, fit generally. Um, I think the only thing

01:28:29.160 to really add that the Alshurir Gauthier did not go into great detail is that your self-esteem

01:28:38.440 when you know that you are in good health or that you look good, particularly

01:28:44.940 as compared to those around you can really make a difference. So, you know, aside from just who

01:28:53.100 you actually are and what you are representing, you are going to do a better job if you are

01:29:02.320 presenting yourself well or making an effort to do that. A little bit of it is going to be an ego

01:29:08.360 boost. They've done studies where if you dress up, even if you're just speaking on the phone,

01:29:14.940 you speak more professionally, you speak with more confidence. So, um, you know, it, it's a

01:29:22.640 very real thing. You know, every day we go out into the world and you to a certain degree can

01:29:29.740 choose what kind of day you're going to have or how your interaction is going to go with someone

01:29:34.100 else. And, um, you know, if you've got your best foot forward, you feel a little bit better.

01:29:40.440 I don't have to dress up in my office. And so sometimes I don't. But when I do, I do hit it harder. I feel better. I present better. I do things better. So I still, sometimes I dress up in the office just to do it. And that's an important aspect of all of this.

01:30:07.460 You are muted, sir.

01:30:10.440 So I know we're getting a little bit off of the physical fitness aspect of this, just broadening it to looking good and confidence, but that makes all the difference.

01:30:32.440 um I've seen that countless times in my life in my own experience and I think we all know it to be

01:30:41.020 true there is something inherent about your conviction and your believability

01:30:51.460 when you talk about things but you aren't really about that life as the kids would say

01:31:02.440 you pick up with that on body language on appearance and on conviction and it is plain

01:31:09.720 for the world to see it's plain for animals to see it's funny that way

01:31:15.800 other other creatures in this world pick up on stuff that's very subtle in ways that people don't

01:31:23.720 children do um if you're dealing with people that don't speak english

01:31:28.440 you can communicate a lot just by not even what you say but how you say it by how you gesture by

01:31:38.100 the faces the faces that you make by whether you seem like you're confident or do you seem like

01:31:43.580 you're a victim you seem like you're scared of something do you seem shifty you feeling good

01:31:49.660 about the way you look makes you more confident you being more confident makes you more effective

01:31:57.180 in every aspect of your life.

01:32:01.020 So take care of yourself in all ways,

01:32:05.960 but very seriously,

01:32:07.400 take care of yourself physically.

01:32:09.740 It's really important

01:32:11.260 and it's very easy to overlook.

01:32:17.580 Always watch.

01:32:20.240 We're currently getting unkind emails

01:32:23.400 that make me chuckle 0.97

01:32:24.520 because they're kind of silly. 0.97

01:32:27.180 All right. So from Witten Daniel Young, John, what drove you towards the clergy? Who were the Gothar that inspired you to do so? 0.97

01:32:42.100 uh whit and daniel young

01:32:48.760 so um

01:32:52.480 what inspired me toward the clergy that that's a what a great question okay so

01:33:01.540 one obviously you know the the way the hierarchy of the afa is built uh you know a to become a

01:33:11.880 Goathe is a step along that hierarchy. So, you know, you hop into it, you're on the bottom level

01:33:18.780 and you're trying to do well and you want to keep doing well and you like getting promoted

01:33:23.560 and to become a Goathe or a Giphea is the highest rank that reasonably anyone could expect if they

01:33:32.620 keep doing the right things. That being said, that's, that's of course not, that's not a calling.

01:33:39.080 That's just part of it. So as regards a calling, you know, I'm trying to think about the way I

01:33:50.840 want to say this because I don't know that I did want to pursue that path necessarily. I,

01:34:00.960 so here's the thing. And I think a lot of people that have actually tried and done this sort of

01:34:07.120 thing feel this it is a very weighty thing and i mean honestly even when i was an apprentice folk

01:34:15.220 builder or a folk builder there there's a lot of weight there because i would have i'd have men that

01:34:23.400 were superior to me in a lot of ways and they're looking to me for some sort of guidance either to

01:34:33.960 guide them in something in their life or just to guide the event and what we're doing and to be a

01:34:37.800 representative of that. And, um, and it's very weighty. Um, you know, I I'm, I'm looking at

01:34:46.020 people that are, some of them are stronger than me. Some of them are smarter than me. Some of

01:34:50.620 them are more successful than me. And, um, you know, the ones that aren't, it's, it's not as

01:34:56.960 difficult because you want to help them, but you know that you can help them. But the idea of

01:35:01.580 actually wearing the mantle of, you know, I'm a priest of the Aesir, you know, that's,

01:35:07.320 uh, it's very heavy. And, um, you know, I,

01:35:15.980 I deserve it because the AFA says I deserve it. Like I, I, I believe that in the church. I'm a

01:35:23.600 humble guy, but I don't believe in false humility. I mean, if we say it, it's true,

01:35:28.080 but there are many instances where i know i'm lacking right like we we all when we think of

01:35:35.060 what should a priest of the isir be i'm sure we all see all of the myriad of ways in which we

01:35:42.100 lack that i i see that so um but somebody has to do that work and so it's kind of just a matter of

01:35:51.000 being willing to grit and do that work so i mean you know you you think about doing it you know the

01:36:00.160 whole time you're building up to it but when you actually get there yeah it's just so much easier

01:36:07.240 from the from the sidelines so i mean that's a non-answer this is a bad answer i wasn't expecting

01:36:13.180 this this question i don't know but i mean it's i do want to help i mean you have to at your core

01:36:20.640 you have to want to help our people and at some point when you're trying to help our people if

01:36:28.700 you're halfway competent person you have to say all right i'm going to tighten my belt grip my

01:36:36.100 teeth and and do this thing and lead our people to the extent that i can even though leading is

01:36:42.820 an uncomfortable thing everyone wants to be the the cool sigma advisor that just whispers into

01:36:49.180 some other guy's ear and gets treated with all the respect without taking any of the risk and uh

01:36:55.660 you know at you know i as a i mean what how many of the gothar are there i think there's like 17

01:37:02.460 of us right there's there are a lot of opportunities for us to shoulder a lot of burden

01:37:12.380 and and maybe misstep and so it's and not just misstep you know as a representative

01:37:17.900 of of our gods in the afa but i mean i haven't been a gothi very long and actually some of this

01:37:24.700 came from before i was was a gothi but you know people would come to me with problems that are

01:37:30.380 serious and they're looking to you for some guidance because they assume you have it and it's

01:37:37.740 uh i'm you know it's heavy heavy is the best thing it's it's it's an honor it's a great honor

01:37:46.540 uh it's really it's it's the greatest honor i've been given in my life thus far but it's i mean

01:37:54.720 it's a terrible responsibility it's you know it's um it's but that's why i do know but i want

01:38:04.260 our audience to understand the gravity of that that our go-thar feel i'm glad that you feel

01:38:13.360 that it is extremely heavy, if it is ever light, then hang it up, give your ring back.

01:38:20.780 You don't deserve it. Those of us who are doing it right, we are always going to measure ourselves

01:38:29.220 as less than we could be because we all know that it is our obligation to always be more,

01:38:36.520 to always do more because our gods always deserve the best and that means

01:38:45.240 every and it doesn't mean like obsess and have a problem but it does mean a daily

01:38:53.460 sense of tremendous responsibility and we are very very proud and you absolutely deserve it

01:39:05.420 and you are you know we're all extremely proud of you uh we love having you on the team

01:39:12.700 and as a colleague but it's a really important thing and it's not something silly it's not

01:39:18.620 something casual it's a legitimate ordination that was handed to

01:39:27.580 the chosen herald of the allfather in 1968 and that he has with care passed down that's made

01:39:41.920 its way to us and it's our job to be the best possible stewards of that ordination that we can

01:39:49.180 be. I don't think there's a way to really understand it in full until you find yourself

01:39:58.200 in that spot, but the kind of theme is immensely important. I'd also like to acknowledge some

01:40:06.140 other things that are really appreciated. You guys are amazing. James in Indiana donated $200

01:40:13.800 dollars to help us pay off New York's off. Tell John Rock

01:40:17.600 to take another sip of that corn juice.

01:40:26.460 Cheers, James.

01:40:32.320 Well done.

01:40:37.000 But wait, there's more.

01:40:38.620 uh finn wraith bought us coffee uh this is my birthday donation since it was my birthday last

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01:41:29.120 you this weekend. Wayne Sheehan bought us five coffees. Another great workout while watching

01:41:38.500 a great show. And look who's on. John Rock. Good to see you, bud. You got fans, John. You got fans.

01:41:49.760 And Jarrett Abbott bought us six coffees. Thank you, Jarrett. Thank you, Wayne. Thank you,

01:41:55.860 everyone who's been so overwhelmingly generous. Thank you guys. So far tonight, we have dropped

01:42:02.920 that number that we owe on the Hoff down to got it pulled up. Hold on. My phone went to sleep.

01:42:09.120 Ta-da. All right. $45,469. It's about $800-ish we've generated in the last hour and a half

01:42:21.840 because you guys are amazing.

01:42:24.660 Thank you all so very, very much.

01:42:26.640 It is very much appreciated.

01:42:28.820 So how far is that from getting it under

01:42:31.160 or getting it more than $200,000 raised?

01:42:36.760 Oh, shoot.

01:42:37.520 That's a number I didn't keep track of.

01:42:39.000 You've got that number.

01:42:39.720 Over $200,000, Mark.

01:42:40.940 What are we at?

01:42:42.400 What's up?

01:42:43.360 Well, how far are we away from having $45,000 left?

01:42:48.160 Oh, okay.

01:42:48.940 we are four hundred and sixty nine dollars from having that four hundred and sixty nine dollars

01:42:55.180 and we will raise two hundred thousand dollars towards the new york's off which is a big number

01:43:01.500 by itself more than we've ever paid for any huff um you guys are amazing thank you all so very very

01:43:11.100 much uh you guys continue to be impressive uh next question what is the main or what main difference

01:43:22.860 does the afa have from the also true alliance so this is a this is a historic question and i think

01:43:34.860 that and i will absolutely get to in 2025 what the difference is um but i want to set the set the

01:43:45.020 stage for it um in the 1970s and the 1980s the foundations of the astro folk assembly were

01:44:01.420 another afa the house true free assembly also founded by um steve mcnallen and that was

01:44:15.340 that organization was extremely influential in all of also true the way that it's practiced today

01:44:23.100 and it laid the groundwork for a lot of the things that we do

01:44:26.460 do but it had a lot of you know a lot of work to do a lot of ways that it wasn't perfect

01:44:33.300 as anything's not and a lot of a lot of different personalities vying for things it was a much

01:44:43.260 more um dare I say chaotic uh all kind of I don't know a lot of different personalities

01:44:57.420 from a lot of different extreme places with varying different views on the world come

01:45:03.680 together for a quasi-democratic quasi-mob rule battle royal of things that made getting

01:45:13.680 things done very tricky and eventually the failings and internal struggles with that

01:45:24.480 caused steve mcnallen to dissolve the austro free assembly in 1987. when he did that he passed on

01:45:34.080 the materials of the austro free assembly to valgarve murray who recently passed away and

01:45:42.160 they took over kind of in a way some of the mantle of that original organization as they moved forward

01:45:50.160 and Steve had some other things to do in the world and some different ways on his own to

01:45:58.880 grow to develop and to come back stronger and in a with a better idea of how to do this right

01:46:07.020 which he eventually did in the founding of the Austro Folk Assembly at the top of the year in

01:46:13.120 1995. But one of the reasons that led to the founding of the AFA was that the Auschew Alliance

01:46:20.920 being a confederation of allied kindreds, they were much more of a democratic kind of an

01:46:36.080 And eventually, their leader, Valgaard Murray, signed on to a, I don't know, a greater pagan heathen statement, acknowledging that Alcetru was open to anybody of any ethnicity that wanted to be part in it, and thus was, you know, universal in that sense.

01:47:05.880 And that was a core belief of the Ausatru Free Assembly and all Ausatru in the United States before that is no, Ausatru is in fact the ethnic religion of Aryan peoples.

01:47:21.760 That was a core of everything this has always been about, but due to increased social pressures and political sway of degenerate forces, the Astro Alliance, legend has it reluctantly signed off on this agreement.

01:47:43.760 But that signature was one of the things that caused our founder to, no, I have to come back and I have to preserve Ausatru for its folkish, its ethnically exclusive purpose for our people.

01:48:00.420 As Steve's always said, the existence of our people is not negotiable.

01:48:04.400 And so he came back and founded the Ausatru Folk Assembly in a large portion as a response to that position.

01:48:13.760 um so in the early days of the afa throughout the 90s and the very early 2000s because steve

01:48:27.020 and valgaard were friends and there was a lot of past association there it's like the alliance had

01:48:34.220 kindreds but the afa had individual members and there was kind of a you know hey we're similar

01:48:40.400 but we're all on the same team because the alliance though they signed that thing that

01:48:46.000 was just so people would get off their back and they were really folkish or so they would

01:48:50.640 say so folkish house of true was represented by both organizations and and there was a

01:48:58.640 a overlap in membership and a sense of brotherhood um that was part of things until you know well

01:49:09.040 into the 2000s but as this century took shape the alliance much more was focused on

01:49:20.160 they weren't really focused on growth they were focused very heavily on

01:49:28.320 a reenactment culture and on kind of keeping their head down staying out of the fray and

01:49:39.040 to a degree and i'm trying to figure out the the nice ways to say some things because things that

01:49:43.760 sound pejorative aren't necessarily meant that way but kind of like an old guy's drinking club

01:49:50.800 thing to do the backyard alsatru that they did in the 80s without really a lot of religiosity to it

01:50:00.880 some of the inside jokes in the alsatru alliance tended to take more significance

01:50:08.000 than the actual religious practice of alsatru they have this really cringy spam cult thing that

01:50:15.360 they do and it's makes me uncomfortable um but yes things have gone on and on they've become

01:50:25.040 less and less interested in growing or developing alsatru or really being involved in alsatru

01:50:31.920 other than maintaining the same you know old and aging out kindreds and membership that they had

01:50:39.360 back in the 80s um a day over the last

01:50:48.960 it's funny you start getting a certain age and years start coming together but over recent years

01:50:54.320 um as valgaard has passed or had passed the torch to one alzharia gothi that was

01:51:06.240 of some degree asian uh

01:51:11.760 or origin i don't know how asian the guy was but significantly enough so to where it was

01:51:18.560 kind of scandalous and over their recent guy who doesn't exhibit a great deal of character

01:51:28.320 is a former afa member that would promise us loyalty and to do a lot of things but didn't

01:51:34.080 ever live up to his word um and when the political climate as we've all seen

01:51:41.920 shifted to where it wasn't popular to be racially aware or to support your own people,

01:51:49.400 they put out a very elaborate statement about how the Ausitru Alliance completely disavows

01:51:55.160 fulkishness, disavows any ethnic exclusivity in the practice of Ausitru, basically disavows

01:52:03.420 many of the fundamentals the Alliance was founded on, and its predecessor, the Ausitru Free

01:52:10.980 assembly was founded on and all of these things that kind of cemented a permanent we don't want

01:52:20.340 anything to do with that organization what they do is not also true what they do is a gross

01:52:27.220 impiety and a gross offense against our gods against our founders against our ancestors

01:52:34.580 against all the things that we hold dear what's worse is privately their leadership admits they

01:52:41.960 don't really agree on those things they just were trying to make it easier on their members

01:52:47.640 so they don't even have the honor of sincere conviction

01:52:52.140 they're just cowardly so i don't have anything positive to say about

01:52:59.220 the organization that calls itself the Ask True Alliance.

01:53:04.060 I don't think that there is a substantial

01:53:07.360 amount of things going on there.

01:53:11.280 And they've really disgraced their members,

01:53:15.340 their gods, and where they've come from. So there's no tie whatsoever between

01:53:19.020 us and them at this stage.

01:53:22.720 John, do you have any experience with the Ask True Alliance?

01:53:24.920 no sir i'm a heterosexual white male well said um

01:53:36.680 all right what else we got

01:53:41.400 john is there anyone in your immediate area that you see potential in for folk builders slash gothar

01:53:49.400 who asked that uh jumbles jumbles okay i don't i don't i'm not aware of who carries the street

01:54:05.820 name jumbles that's that is a hard name i don't want to cross them so so jumbles would be one

01:54:13.080 probably but um yeah no there's so i don't know if it's just who's your boring supremacy or what

01:54:24.440 but we have a lot of high quality people that wander in that i would love to take credit for

01:54:32.320 but they're not really my doing so i mean i could

01:54:37.380 i'm sure that of the people that i deal with on a regular basis i could find four worthy folk builders

01:54:49.860 and probably each one of them i would think would be suitable for you know gothic ordination at some

01:55:01.860 point now that's but i see it playing across your face what's i know i think that lucotte

01:55:10.660 is suggesting that jumbles might be a juggalo that's what i took by his comment not sure if

01:55:16.980 that was the intention juggalos aren't also true that's uh that's in the lore that's i have my

01:55:24.340 hands tied on that i can't i can't so if you were listening to this and you find yourself wearing a

01:55:31.540 clown face paint um i don't know your spiritual inclination and we'd have to have conversations

01:55:38.580 to see if you in fact cannot practice house true i don't know if the uh gospel according to the 0.95

01:55:44.020 hatchet man is in conflict with our faith or not the the great malenko is not in our pantheon he's

01:55:54.020 i uh i think that there would be some re-education needing to go on with violent jay and shaggy too

01:55:59.300 dope um reasonably i'm sorry just just to actually answer the question i mean yeah there's sure

01:56:09.060 there's probably four guys that i have on hand that would make good folk builders and you know

01:56:16.020 i wouldn't think someone would make a good folk builder if someday they wouldn't probably make a

01:56:21.700 good go fee um so yeah we've got some great guys here we've got great people everywhere you indiana

01:56:30.260 i joke that you know we're you know who's your boring supremacy the greater who's your right

01:56:35.940 but um you know we have great people everywhere that would be perfectly suitable for folk building

01:56:42.020 it's a matter of someone wanting to step up and do it so this you know this is a good segue into

01:56:47.780 saying that anyone who does have an interest i mean please step up that's so i will say this um

01:56:58.580 first yes absolutely one okay i will be serious and then i will be be less so um

01:57:09.220 a lot of people may not understand there is not a

01:57:12.340 limit on you know like how many folk builders we have or how many gothar we can have or

01:57:20.500 you know oh well there's already a folk builder in my state so it's not necessary no we can use

01:57:27.360 folk builders and we can use gothar everywhere we have people who step up or feel a calling

01:57:34.700 or are motivated to serve our gods our folk and our house true folk assembly in that way and we

01:57:41.420 love to have that happen um so if that's something that you want to do wherever you find yourself

01:57:50.300 there's a lot of work to go around we are doing

01:57:58.060 just like uh john spoke earlier about how the ordination is extremely heavy and we all you know 0.97

01:58:06.780 we don't obsess like we're proud of ourselves not like we feel unworthy because we we suck we

01:58:13.420 are never worthy because you can't possibly be worthy of our gods because our gods are that

01:58:18.460 glorious we always owe them more and better we can't rest on our laurels because victory never

01:58:26.300 sleeps that's part of the reason for the slogan is no you've got to always be out there trying

01:58:33.660 to earn victory and be worthy that said the mission of the afa will all our ambition will always

01:58:41.660 outstrip our resources and if our resources doubled tomorrow the goals and the plans and

01:58:50.060 the things we would try to accomplish would triple our gods are worthy of that our ancestors are

01:58:56.540 worthy of that and our folk are worthy of that and we will always try to push forward which means

01:59:01.660 we will always need lots of help from our folk and people who want to step up so if you'd like

01:59:06.620 to folk build talk to your local folk builder about it or you can talk to nathan erlinson

01:59:12.940 gothe nathan erlinson who is our folk builder coordinator who gets that all square away

01:59:18.220 but yeah please do consider that absolutely um final closing note on the juggalos though

01:59:24.700 So some of y'all may know, last year I got my black belt in Danzenryu Jiu-Jitsu.

01:59:34.980 And one time I was training with a man who I think was a juggalo in a former life.

01:59:43.100 I don't know his current affiliations, but he wasn't decked out in his makeup, but he had the tattoo and the necklace.

01:59:49.220 us um life came at him real quick and uh he did not seal the valves and he had an accident and

02:00:03.880 had to leave the mat and uh witten daniel young refers to that when joking with me as my special

02:00:10.560 dookie move so there you have that and now we'll move on to more elevated topics but it's not often

02:00:17.660 a juggalo opportunity presents

02:00:19.760 itself and

02:00:20.800 stories must be told sometimes.

02:00:25.320 That said,

02:00:28.240 Goethe Rock,

02:00:32.020 what's your favorite color?

02:00:34.840 I'm sorry, my favorite

02:00:36.020 what? Your favorite color.

02:00:38.560 My favorite color is green.

02:00:42.800 Smart red.

02:00:44.580 Yeah.

02:00:44.940 it. It's obviously the superior teller. How much did the audience came up with a different

02:00:55.500 one, you think, when I said that? There you have it. So, does the AFA believe that all

02:01:01.980 Christian pantheons in Europe are the same gods? Are the Hellenic, Celtic, and Slavic pantheons

02:01:07.540 the same as the gods the AFA worships with different cultures? So, we talked about this

02:01:13.800 earlier in the show but it's something a lot of people think on

02:01:20.440 the short answer is yes the long answer is you will be endlessly befuddled in exactly how that

02:01:29.880 works out if you try to find the exact one for one correlation in all of the european pantheons

02:01:38.520 it does not work itself out nearly that clean but yes the original root of all of those pantheons

02:01:46.200 goes back to one source one root one pantheon of gods that the austral folk assembly worships under

02:01:52.680 the names and expression of the old norse as the ice seer they reveal themselves over the march of

02:02:02.040 time over the space of eons and the sweep of tens of thousands of miles in different ways

02:02:11.580 with different namings with you know different traditions and different expressions as those

02:02:17.500 people's culture and languages evolved in in different ways but yes those are the same gods

02:02:24.280 that shaped us that are our gods we are their folk and that will be the case for the remainder

02:02:30.620 of time and beyond. Matt, what would you say to critics who accuse the AFA of being a cult or

02:02:42.560 just people who are curious about joining that may have concerns? Two things. People that say

02:02:52.160 we're a cult, I mean, it depends because it's a longer conversation. I don't think that word

02:03:01.400 means what they think it means. In antiquity, you would talk about a cult of this God or a cult of

02:03:09.200 that God. A group, it's funny because it's like administration or regime. They mean the same

02:03:16.500 thing but when it's the baddies it's a regime when it's the good guys that we like it's an

02:03:23.060 administration it's a church or a religion when we like it it's a cult or a you know yeah it's a

02:03:30.980 cult when we want to demonize it either all religions are cults or we're not a cult

02:03:40.100 there is a modern sociological definition of cult that we kind of examined an episode I did

02:03:51.180 I believe with Cliff we examined it kind of in on episode 114 we examined it and it's kind of fun

02:04:00.340 because there's a lot of stuff that implies coercion and abuse and like a systematic mind

02:04:08.900 control device and a lot of silly things we're certainly not a cult in what the average person

02:04:17.780 on the street would think a cult is because we don't try to take over people's lives and separate

02:04:25.540 them from their families or you know trick them or threaten them with abuse or try to psychologically

02:04:33.460 manipulate them we do firmly believe in what we believe in we absolutely try to teach our people

02:04:42.500 and urge them to act right and we have firm standards and we also encourage people not

02:04:50.980 to associate with those who've been disloyal and who have decided to try to damage us or go against

02:04:59.460 our gods or hurt us because anybody who takes things seriously wants loyalty but no we're

02:05:08.020 not a cult in not in the sense that they probably think what i would say to folks that have concerns

02:05:13.220 or questions it is unfortunate that we find ourselves in a sound bite world because most

02:05:23.460 of the real questions of life about things that are important don't have sound bite answers

02:05:28.260 I would encourage those people to ask any of us, to ask our go-thar, whatever the questions they might have, to listen to this program where we've probably addressed a lot of questions they might have, or to call me, email me, reach out to me personally and ask me, because I would love to talk to them.

02:05:47.860 You can find out, and I would encourage any and everybody to find out what the core fundamentals of our belief are in the Ausatru Trulagmau, which is available on our library on our website.

02:06:06.960 That is a concise expression of the very fundamentals of what we believe and what's foundational to our practice.

02:06:16.100 so please check that out if you haven't and please feel free to share that if people wonder

02:06:21.320 like hey what is this what do you guys believe this is the best way i've found to answer that

02:06:27.200 question um but yeah the the solution to people who are curious is to have them ask and any of us

02:06:35.280 would love to tell them the other thing is watch our videos where we show a special oh

02:06:44.060 So, Nick, this is a good reminder, and I'm just going to take this opportunity.

02:06:47.760 I haven't gotten to you, but we just got done with the first quarter.

02:06:50.900 We need to get that first quarter slideshow up.

02:06:55.640 It hasn't occurred to me to get on you about it until right now.

02:07:00.700 But every quarter we do a slideshow about what the AFA has been up to in that quarter.

02:07:06.820 And it's really nice because a lot of the time it's candid shots.

02:07:12.120 It's shots of just us doing what we do, and you get to see who we are, where we're at.

02:07:19.540 You see the people who we're associated with, and it demystifies what I think a lot of the critics would say we are or say we're about.

02:07:28.920 I mentioned that how you present yourself says a lot.

02:07:31.920 you're going to find happy smiling white families engaged in worship engaged in fellowship with one

02:07:40.420 another and i think it's really disarming to anybody that might have fears about us and the

02:07:48.220 media tries really hard to get people to be afraid um so i would encourage everybody to check those

02:07:54.140 out and nick and i will get over in the next couple of days getting that quarter one slideshow

02:07:59.860 out to all you guys. John, do you have any thoughts on what do you say if people say we're involved in

02:08:07.780 a cult or that, you know, if people just have concerns about us? What are your thoughts and

02:08:12.880 how would you address that? My thoughts mirror all of yours. Obviously, if you come out and

02:08:18.920 dare meet any of us, you'll realize that we're perfectly safe to be around. I would say that

02:08:26.540 practically speaking when most people think of a cult they are i think one of the definitive

02:08:33.560 qualities of that is that people are not free to leave and so they're being they're being held and

02:08:40.360 brainwashed and i think that is objectively and obviously not true we have we have people that

02:08:47.520 leave the afa every day which is unfortunate like just about every day all the time uh we have

02:08:54.540 people that come back all the time we have new people joining we have people that come check us

02:08:59.980 out or join leave for two months and then come back two months later um you know there everybody

02:09:08.220 goes home at the end of the night so it's not it's simply not in real life an environment that

02:09:14.820 is conducive to what people perceive as cultish behavior it's the reality of it is showing up

02:09:25.000 having a pitch in doing a religious ritual that that granted people outside of the religion may

02:09:33.080 find slightly unusual although it's it's really not that unusual to a lot of even to a lot of

02:09:40.440 outsiders. And, um, and then everybody goes home at the end of the night. And I mean,

02:09:45.440 they might come back a month later. I mean, we only have official moods for the most part

02:09:51.040 once every month. That's, that's no way to run a cult. So I, you know, logically, objectively,

02:09:57.160 it's, it's simply not realistic to look at it through that. Yeah. If we're a cult, we're doing

02:10:04.420 it wrong. So I'd say about a lot of things. We're a hate group. We're doing it wrong.

02:10:11.540 There's way too much snuggles and crying and hugs and happiness. And, you know, for a

02:10:18.360 cult, we're, we are woefully missing the mark. But we continue to have amazingly generous

02:10:27.240 us people thank you guys so much uh chris lucat bought us five coffees folk arm and soul he says

02:10:38.040 which is y'all's kindred um thank you for that we appreciate it thank you chris

02:10:45.020 and uh sarah donated 50 towards nortov fund thank you so much sarah um we're doing awesome we're

02:10:54.420 $199 away from cresting that

02:10:57.720 $200,000 mark. You guys are

02:11:01.820 spectacular. I continue to

02:11:05.380 continue to be amazed.

02:11:14.240 No, you guys are awesome. Thank you very much for the generosity.

02:11:17.560 Let me see where we was on the question.

02:11:24.420 All right.

02:11:33.740 John, how would you say your path to Gauthier changed your personal spiritual practice?

02:11:48.140 You know, so if we're talking about the fullness of the path to Gauthier, so...

02:11:54.420 My, my origin story in the faith is, is similar to a lot of people's, right? So

02:12:01.020 sometime, you know, when I was in high school, I decided that religion was, you know, theoretically

02:12:09.700 important. And so you shouldn't just follow whatever you were born into. So you ought to

02:12:14.600 look into it and figure out which one is correct. And so I, you know, I did this big, deep dive

02:12:23.920 into different denominations and then different religions uh never considering um any of the

02:12:32.080 indigenous indigenous european religions it was just outside of my my realm of what i considered

02:12:40.000 logically possible at the time and um like many of our people everything seemed so foreign to me

02:12:48.640 and um you know i mean you know the hinduism was even more foreign than christianity which

02:12:56.380 didn't appeal to me in the first place because something about it just never gripped me and um

02:13:03.040 you know i i sat down i read the bible and i was like i don't i don't i it's not that i don't

02:13:12.680 believe the stories even it's that i don't believe in the lesson in in a lot of these instances

02:13:18.580 right so like many of our people then i i decided well i'm an atheist and and i think that hits a

02:13:26.180 lot of our people because they equate their inability to find religion in a foreign religion

02:13:35.300 with a lack of spirituality or an inability to find religion at all and um so i did that for a

02:13:44.660 little while this is a long this is i'm some of this is from how i should have told the story

02:13:50.800 earlier when i was talking about my original path to the goathy hood so that's why it's so long but

02:13:56.360 so anyhow so i'm that guy and um you know so i started back this was now in the early 2000s

02:14:06.640 might have been 2001 we had uh myself and a friend of mine um he was already training we went and we

02:14:16.420 started uh training in mixed martial arts and you know in in 2001 ish in indiana indianapolis you

02:14:26.220 know it was not prevalent right so indiana though does have the honor of having an early ufc fighter

02:14:34.400 jason godsey who who lived here and um so we would go and we'd roll in jason's pole barn

02:14:42.000 and he would you know he'd teach us jujitsu and and we'd do that and um he's a real cool guy

02:14:49.580 and so he taught myself and some of my friends how to read runes and he would practice rune

02:14:57.900 divination. And so we would sit and we would do that. And it started opening up this idea to me

02:15:05.300 that, okay, so, you know, here are serious men who are grown, who are intelligent, who are engaging

02:15:14.000 in this supernatural practice, you know, and, and so that was really interesting to me. So I didn't

02:15:23.600 flip automatically um but you know i started into like like a lot of us do when we're wetting our

02:15:30.080 feet you know the you start looking at the gods as archetypes you know they'll kind of archetypal

02:15:35.440 look like okay our people need to be guided we need to act a certain way and these are the lessons

02:15:41.040 and this is what our ancestors did and then after you do that for a little bit you start to realize

02:15:46.800 is hey this is real uh rune divination's real these things have happened our gods are real

02:15:55.440 and then you start practicing more seriously and then when that comes to actually answering the

02:16:00.560 question is like so many of our people who are suffering and they don't actually realize they're

02:16:09.360 doing it you know i mean we had access to the internet back then too i don't know where all

02:16:14.040 these internet gurus think that they they have some hot take on the religion that the afa doesn't

02:16:19.180 understand but um you know so you read all the lore you look at things online you start practicing

02:16:26.200 by yourself you're doing your bloat by yourself everything by yourself i'd get together with a

02:16:32.420 couple of my friends we might do a little thing but um we hadn't laid out you know we just laid

02:16:41.180 out the hey we're going to give a gift we're going to do a thing and um there was no real

02:16:47.240 understanding on my end of the concept of hymenia as a group a group hymenia um how that ties into

02:16:55.680 and um and that really religiously um there is a dictate for practicing with others and and

02:17:08.780 really for practicing with the largest group you can get which is why you know I've always been

02:17:15.620 pretty critical as kindly as I could be for people that feel like they they don't want to come do it

02:17:21.500 with the AFA you know I now I'm a company man right so I get that that sounds suspect but

02:17:26.540 I didn't have to be you know there's a time I was perfectly happy doing things on my own with a

02:17:33.140 friend or two. And, and when I came to realize the, the, you know, cause that's a good thing

02:17:40.140 about a large group like the AFA, you know, the legitimate churches is there are people there who

02:17:45.200 know more than you and you get to glean from them. And, um, you know, you, the gods are not

02:17:53.700 interested in a contrarian. They're interested in a winner. They're interested in you participating

02:17:59.380 on the winning team and adding to the largeness and the power of that hymenia that's what survives

02:18:07.480 the storm not the individual it's kind of it's kind of like the fashies right you know you got

02:18:14.800 the individual little stick you know that's your hymenia you and your three buddies it snaps right

02:18:20.960 you got this big hymenia of all these different guys and it does not right it holds so that's

02:18:28.340 something that's changed in my practice during the road to to you know gothic ordination is that

02:18:36.400 there is now for starters the afa has broken down what a bloat needs to be in the simplest

02:18:47.400 steps the simplest of steps like the things that are provably required from the bronze age

02:18:58.280 like these steps, like you can do whatever you want, really, you know, there's room for a lot

02:19:02.680 of flair, but you need to achieve these three things, let's say, it depends on how you break

02:19:08.760 into steps, you know, whether you process as part of a step or not, what have you, but,

02:19:12.880 but, you know, so I, now I have that model to play off of and an understanding that,

02:19:21.220 you know i should when possible enact those steps with others and it's important that i do it with

02:19:31.100 others even even though i can go do my own private practice the way i always used to

02:19:36.060 that's great that's fine but it should be in addition to the communal practice and um

02:19:43.720 And now, I mean, honestly, as because, you know, I led bloat, you know, all the time that I was an apprentice, you know, up until now, which is great because, you know, you can do that.

02:19:58.580 There's nothing to stop you. But it hadn't occurred to me before that, you know, the idea of having an ordained clergy, which is paramount, it's great, but even the idea of acting as a lay clergyman is really important.

02:20:23.840 You know, you are acting as a conduit between, you know, the Aesir and different people.

02:20:32.160 And it's important, not just because, you know, you're important that you're doing it, but it's important for them.

02:20:38.640 You are helping them, you know, engage in the gift cycle with our gods.

02:20:46.160 And so it's, it's just, it adds more, more gravity to the situation. And it, you know, it really pushes the necessity for, for communal practice of the faith.

02:21:03.120 I don't know how to read any other questions or anything. So.

02:21:11.380 Didn't know he was gone.

02:21:12.980 well yeah i get pretty verbose nick so i don't blame it was it was an ideal time for him to slip

02:21:20.360 away i get that absolutely absolutely and that's what he does he'll uh sneak off into the sunset

02:21:27.500 or into the shadows while he leaves you guys to hold it down he is not the first person to get

02:21:34.480 bored and wander away as i was speaking that that's a thing that i do i i don't know i think

02:21:40.080 you can hold the rooms captive pretty well yeah well that's with a firearm sure no one's no one's

02:21:47.380 leaving the room now i shouldn't even joke about that we have all these cultist questions coming

02:21:51.740 up and i'd say you did pretty well holding this captive with what was it an axe uh a couple weeks

02:21:59.240 ago so that was a nice yeah we had a nice axe at auction that i i believe uh oh hello sir

02:22:06.980 Hello. I heard something about auctions. You are an amazing auctioneer. Those of you might

02:22:13.880 not know, this man presided over our record-breaking Thorshoff auction at Austra. Well done. We

02:22:25.360 appreciate you. Speaking of stuff we appreciate, Bill in Tennessee donated $200 towards paying

02:22:35.640 off njortzoff bill was also generous in our auction in the last two hours and 20 minutes

02:22:46.680 we have raised over a thousand dollars for the payoff of uh njortzoff thank you all so so very

02:22:56.840 much um i am grateful and i am astounded you guys are amazing thank you bill

02:23:14.760 go through rock i've heard that you bought a city block in indiana and i've also heard

02:23:21.240 that you may or may not run a home for wayward men any truth to this or is it fake news

02:23:29.460 the place that i bought in the city is shaped like a block so there is some truth there i will

02:23:39.340 i will give the story so um it has been joked that you know i i run a a home for wayward boys

02:23:51.820 um it's been called the halfway house which i i find also amusing um the reality of the situation is

02:24:00.540 so long story long right i'm just going to keep what we're here for that's kind of a theme in

02:24:10.860 this show that's the theme so uh once upon a time you know i was married and uh i then found myself

02:24:20.220 in the middle east on a deployment in the middle east and i was there for like seven months

02:24:24.540 and as part of the the standard like the real deployment experience you you get a phone call

02:24:32.300 one day it's like hey don't come home you know never come home and so i um i was like you know

02:24:38.860 okay sure and um so i needed to find a place to live right that's that's just the story and i was

02:24:45.240 kind of in a little bit of a rush for it so um i found a dilapidated old farmhouse out in the

02:24:54.600 middle of i thought nowhere at the time it's actually built up around me quite a bit now it's

02:25:00.120 not a bad location but um so i got this great big house right on on like 10 acres out here in indiana

02:25:08.440 and um you know and um it needed people to live in right so so i have two kids and they were both

02:25:19.440 living with me but they you know they didn't take up that much space so i just kept running across

02:25:25.000 people like our people that you know a lot of our people need a place to stay to get on their feet

02:25:30.420 you know start trying to find a job and just just kind of get going so you know i had room

02:25:36.880 you know there was just no reason not to invite them in and uh and it really took off and it i

02:25:42.920 mean it got to the point where we were just as large as this place is we were just falling all

02:25:48.320 over each other which um is a segue into the next thing that happened so you know i kind of got the

02:25:57.940 idea hey maybe this is sustainable maybe it isn't but maybe we could find something better

02:26:02.920 so i located a small city it's technically a city but it's very small in rural indiana

02:26:11.200 and it's um it's a reasonable location it's kind of equidistant between indianapolis

02:26:17.400 and then cincinnati and dayton so three major metropolitan areas and um i found a business

02:26:26.180 or not a business a building there and it's one of those ubiquitous buildings that it's in all

02:26:32.640 small town downtowns in america you know it's stores on the bottom storefronts on the bottom

02:26:37.800 apartments up top and i said hey if we bought this i can move some of these goobers out of my house

02:26:44.300 and then like we could put them here and and we could kind of start trying to build community it's

02:26:50.600 sort of the the kind of thing we're trying to do at sigerheim but you know rather than kind of

02:26:56.140 building from the ground up in this scenario we're just trying to move into a small a small town

02:27:01.960 and um so we do have a building it's in um you know it's it's it's kind of done up so that you

02:27:12.760 know i got four guys that are living there that are also true guys our guys which is great because

02:27:17.500 then you have this this small nebula of people there to build from and then we use the other

02:27:25.540 half of the building for uh for bloat and um and you know bloat holiday whatever you know for

02:27:32.800 whatever reason we get together and uh it's been pretty good to us so far we've uh you know we've

02:27:39.660 we've pulled in some local people from the area some great people mr burns who just donated

02:27:45.780 earlier you know he's uh he's from the area you know he's he's a good guy we got a lot of good

02:27:51.520 guys and um it's really been very good to us so far and we are still in the stage where

02:28:00.960 it needs a lot of repair blah blah blah so we are just anticipating frankly it

02:28:08.260 is going to continue getting better and better uh in fact it's it's a sizable place

02:28:14.740 and i don't think we're going to be there much longer i think i'm going to need to

02:28:19.600 purchase a larger building. So we're really excited. That sounds like a good problem to have.

02:28:25.820 Yeah. So first, that's awesome. Lots of people talk about doing things, buying real things in

02:28:39.520 the world and using that to provide opportunities and places to live for our our folk and our people

02:28:52.800 who can make use of those is that's a beautiful thing and it's a testament to the kind of person

02:29:00.420 you are and it's something that hopefully inspires others to do similar things um it's hard to keep

02:29:08.980 up with all the generosity because you guys are amazing. Our producer

02:29:13.180 Nick donated $200 to help us pay off New York's

02:29:17.060 off. And John in Indiana also

02:29:21.160 donated $200 to help us pay off New York's off.

02:29:24.760 You guys are awesome. Thank you. Appreciate it.

02:29:29.860 Appreciate it, both of you guys.

02:29:34.820 That's a lot tonight.

02:29:37.140 We have raised somewhere in the $1,300 range in two and a half hours to help pay off the Hoff.

02:29:52.580 Yeah, thank you, guys.

02:29:54.780 I just continue to be amazed.

02:29:57.060 You guys are awesome.

02:29:58.680 We are making tremendous progress on that.

02:30:01.300 uh dude who asked earlier oh no that was in a uh a previous chat before the show we had somebody

02:30:08.420 asking realistically how soon before we can get phrase off what i'm told what i told he asked

02:30:17.540 what he asked originally actually was what are the odds of us getting phrase off by the end of the

02:30:23.940 year and i told him it's not impossible the odds are slim what i am very confident of is that we

02:30:33.620 can pay off njordshoff by the end of the year but once we pay off njordshoff then we get into the

02:30:42.260 finding the right spot doing the inspections and the offers and the whole buying that spot

02:30:48.500 process with phrasehoff so it's ambitious to think of that by the end of the year

02:30:56.900 however if we get folks donating like y'all have been tonight as soon as we clear the njordshoff

02:31:05.300 debt we will definitely be immediately trying to find the right location for phrasehoff

02:31:10.900 It is absolutely possible to get it this year if people continue to help us accelerate the momentum of paying off New York's Off.

02:31:22.580 So we'll see where that sorts itself out, but we have made amazing progress on that so far tonight.

02:31:29.920 You guys are beautiful, and I appreciate it so much.

02:31:36.000 Let's see, we've got some more questions on here.

02:31:40.900 Let me find where we are at, because they're getting lost in all the awesome donation notifications for me.

02:31:51.120 So, here you go.

02:31:53.060 In my research, a majority of Western and Northern Europeans followed the Celtic gods rather than the Germanic ones.

02:32:01.020 Why is the focus on the Germanic ones?

02:32:04.460 So, we talked about this a little bit earlier, too.

02:32:07.540 um there are a variety of reasons

02:32:12.280 one the celtic material is not nearly as comprehensive or as complete that's come down

02:32:24.060 to us um another one that i think probably plays into some of them the celtic material is simply

02:32:34.960 not very well known to most of our folk as a whole whereas the basics of the Norse material

02:32:45.120 is at least the points of familiarity are much more and then there is the

02:32:56.960 The more overtly supernatural reasoning, because that is what the Aesir have put forth to us.

02:33:16.140 That's what the mission that has been laid before us is.

02:33:20.080 a lot of people wonder well what if we had like a celtic thing that was like

02:33:27.880 that was a true but celtic or what would it be like if this and those are all fascinating

02:33:33.120 questions and i like to wonder about what if too but it pales in comparison to what did happen

02:33:40.460 What did happen over a couple of consecutive waves in the late 1800s, the early 1900s, and undeniably and overwhelmingly in the 1960s and 70s,

02:33:56.700 Because the All-Father, under the Norse conception, with Norse terminology, with Norse inspiration, chose to ignite the soul of our folk, to reclaim our trough and our loyalty to the Aesir.

02:34:16.700 that was done under these terms with these associations and in this way that is what

02:34:26.580 awakened our folk soul that is what brought us back home to relation with our gods to trough to

02:34:34.600 loyalty, it was as Allfather Odin that the Sigfather chose and spoke to our founder,

02:34:46.820 Alasherjir Gauthier, Stephen McNallan, way back in 1968, to put all of this into motion.

02:34:56.120 It is under that conception and that corpus of lore that all of the different currents

02:35:03.740 that have coalesced to get us what we where we are today that is the shape it's taken that is what

02:35:10.780 has brought us to the dance and that's what continues to facilitate our blessings through

02:35:18.620 the gift cycle and our advancement in the development of aussitrew um we could have done

02:35:28.540 it could have happened under a celtic lens it could have happened under a myriad

02:35:37.420 other lenses and other shapes and varieties but it did happen under this one it did happen under

02:35:43.980 this one and we are into this as also true for 56 years now and we are into this as the

02:35:51.100 Ausatru Folk Assembly very specifically this year for 30 years now. So it could have happened

02:35:59.080 many, many different ways, but it did happen this way. And this is what we continue to

02:36:05.360 build upon to try and perfect to the best of our ability and what is moving us forward and

02:36:15.100 bringing us closer to a more perfect understanding and relationship with the gods.

02:36:21.100 So that's where we're at.

02:36:25.840 What do you think Universalist Alcetruar would say about folkish Yoruba?

02:36:33.640 Would they have as much of a problem with that?

02:36:37.100 John, respond to that if you would. 1.00

02:36:40.940 They would not because they're cowards and charlatans. 0.94

02:36:45.720 They, you know, the thing about Universalist Alcetru are is that they aren't Alcetru and they don't really exist for the most part. 0.90

02:36:56.920 I have not noticed them being particularly religious or pious.

02:37:02.460 They exist primarily to be anti-Christian and to feel special and to promote political ideality.

02:37:17.140 They are terrified of the thought of applying an even-handed stroke to the Yoruba or the Shinto or the American Indian religions, all of which are, with the possible exception of Yoruba, are larger than Alcadru.

02:37:37.220 and

02:37:38.780 and yeah

02:37:41.120 not only would they

02:37:43.240 get terrified

02:37:45.400 to confront any of those

02:37:47.480 groups

02:37:48.040 well I don't

02:37:53.080 know I should

02:37:54.700 I want to be

02:37:56.840 I want to denigrate them while still

02:37:59.240 using 0.57

02:38:00.140 high language

02:38:02.060 so I don't know they are

02:38:04.560 they're screaming communists for the most time they're they rarely have a coherent argument so

02:38:15.640 first before we do that

02:38:21.560 a salem eight from uh rumble donated five dollars to us says hello cheers cheers to you a salem eight

02:38:33.120 we appreciate you appreciate your donation we appreciate you listening to and watching the show

02:38:38.640 and participating with it um thank you for being here uh secondly i reject your question because

02:38:47.280 there's no such thing as your universalist house the truth the two are mutually uh contradictory 0.99

02:38:53.760 you can't do the you can't do those two things so the uh dishonest and mentally ill charlatans 0.98

02:39:00.240 that claim to be both universalist and alsatru are not loyal to the icier they are as john mentioned 0.98

02:39:11.920 raving communists and i don't just say that as a um like a political

02:39:20.240 slap at them although i mean gladly i would say it as that but one of the things that was very

02:39:31.480 apparent to me when i first came home to alsatru in let's say there's debate on this because it

02:39:44.320 process very few things happen in the blink of an eye but in let's say 2001

02:39:51.920 one of the things that i noticed because back then there was the there was a number of competing

02:39:58.000 groups that were all you know had some degree of parody as legitimate options to try to see

02:40:07.920 what this also true thing that i learned about is um at the time there was the australians there

02:40:14.320 was the eodinic right there was the troth and uh there was the also true folk assembly

02:40:23.520 one thing that i noticed the troughs website

02:40:28.640 you had to get scroll way way down like three pages in to get to anything positive they were

02:40:40.240 about when you looked at like about us it didn't say hi we're also true we love the

02:40:50.360 we worship our gods. We are about whatever. We do not tolerate any homophobia. We will

02:41:00.120 not accept any racism or any problematic language. We do not accept anybody who discriminates

02:41:08.620 on the base. There's this whole list of all of the things they don't like and they don't

02:41:14.420 accept and they won't tolerate. And it was defined by their intention.

02:41:20.360 it was front-loaded defined by their politics and it's only gotten worse over the last 20 years

02:41:29.540 but not only that but their politics expressed in a very negative way it's not

02:41:40.940 about us didn't tell us about them it told them told me about all the people they weren't instead

02:41:47.480 who they were. In contrast, at the time when I went to the AFA's website, and we've tried really

02:41:54.340 hard to continue that to this day, it was all about what the AFA was about, the values the AFA

02:42:02.980 shared, the beliefs that the AFA had. It wasn't all the things they don't like or all the people

02:42:08.740 they don't agree with or don't approve of. It was defined positively. And yes, positively,

02:42:16.380 I think in terms of values, but I mean positively in terms of language. It was a positive statement

02:42:21.580 about the things that we support and who we are in contrast to negative statements about who we

02:42:28.980 aren't. And I've seen that metastasize in the universalist camp. We've all seen that. I mean,

02:42:36.380 if you're a regular viewer of the show, the spiral, it seems as though every year that has gone by

02:42:45.120 in that camp whatever grouping or you know internet chat room they associate with

02:42:52.800 it has been progressively pun intended i suppose um maybe not pun intended but pun accepted

02:43:01.340 um less and less also true less and less about anything related to the gods and more and more

02:43:10.460 about extreme left-wing degenerate politics um and it's really really disgusting but yeah no they 0.99

02:43:23.560 wouldn't care about focus yoruba they actively just hate heterosexual white people 0.99

02:43:29.440 their board of directors has become increasingly gay to where i believe it is 0.99

02:43:35.720 at last time i checked over 50 percent gay there's a black lesbian lokian that was there last time i 0.89

02:43:43.960 took any note of it on their board of directors a lot of the board of directors at that time

02:43:50.840 also true was like the third thing down on the list they're also a wiccan high priestess they're

02:43:56.920 also a you know level 18 necromancer they're all these different things and then they're

02:44:05.880 at some point on there they claim some degree of loose affiliation with aussitru

02:44:12.840 and yeah that's gross those people don't count and

02:44:19.240 yeah but no they wouldn't apply that standard to any other group of people

02:44:26.920 They literally just are self-loathing in their hate for white people and outwardly loathing in their hate for heterosexual people and traditionally minded people or people who practice good personal hygiene and have good mental health.

02:44:46.300 Can I add one thing to that?

02:44:48.480 You may.

02:44:49.200 Just a consideration is that what a perfect organization they really are.

02:44:55.700 And it's, you know, it sounds humorous, but when you, we often blame their politics for why they are so degenerated and why they continue to degenerate, but they really actually are a perfect theological kind of, you know, macrocosm of what happens when you are Lokian.

02:45:21.160 So, you know, we eschew, you know, these things, this Loki mentality. And I mean, really, if you are going to start a religious group that accepts Loki worship and champions it, you will become that which they are.

02:45:43.140 They are a very reasonable byproduct of the Loki and troll wife just degenerate twist on everything that we, who are also true, are.

02:45:59.700 A couple of notes to that that I think are true and are relevant here.

02:46:05.460 You have two things.

02:46:07.480 You have the people that are actively super into that and the instigators of it, and that's one phenomenon.

02:46:18.640 But then you have well-meaning people that suffer from the soul sickness to where they are toxically need to be nice to people,

02:46:29.660 even if those people are really bad and need to be accepting, and they're trying so hard to politically fit in.

02:46:37.480 that they gradually allow themselves to degenerate and be bothered

02:46:43.320 the first group that you find with you know somebody mentioned earlier the term

02:46:49.960 rock a true which isn't really a thing it's like

02:46:57.160 christian raised goth satanists i understand there is a intellectual philosophical

02:47:07.080 church of satan thing that is about not really a deification of actual bible devil but like a

02:47:15.240 taking a philosophical position in contrast to that and whatever else

02:47:19.960 that's not what i'm talking about the kids that pretend they worship the devil

02:47:26.520 they have a christian social construct and they've entirely defined themselves

02:47:31.880 in opposition to whoever the antagonist or the protagonist.

02:47:40.320 They've decided they are the antagonist to Christianity.

02:47:43.920 They want to be everything that Christianity is not,

02:47:48.320 just as a form of rebellion because often they are deeply broken in that way. 0.93

02:47:54.460 They just want to be, you know, the pain in the butt opposition kid who's expressing their angst.

02:48:03.200 When you see that in Austatru, it becomes Loki worshippers or Rokatru or whatever that is.

02:48:10.060 Again, most of those people don't really believe those things.

02:48:13.880 They just want to be edgy and spooky and, you know, mommy doesn't understand me.

02:48:20.260 And okay, that's what they're doing.

02:48:23.360 And there's other people that do have some sort of sincere belief that get tricked into some kind of neutrality or ambivalence and engage in or at least allow and exist in the presence of Loki worship.

02:48:39.640 And then you do see what John just mentioned about there is a spiritual decay that sets in when you knowingly open the door to and let chaos into your life or your practice or what you do.

02:48:56.920 Over time, it rots it.

02:48:59.720 Over time, it allows for an acceleration of entropy into a complete chaotic state.

02:49:07.960 And I've seen this a lot with people that may not even intentionally believe, but they want to show how edgy they are and use real dark imagery.

02:49:18.180 And over time, their life starts to get into the gravitational pull of chaos.

02:49:26.380 and very often they either have extensive trouble pulling out of that or they can't pull out of it

02:49:34.360 together and it leads to a pretty severe mental illness and a breakdown of their family and their

02:49:41.060 life and their health and a lot of things so you know beware of that don't get involved in that

02:49:47.040 That's bad.

02:49:50.580 Where are we at?

02:49:58.460 Gauthier Rock recently reached the grandpa level of coolness in life.

02:50:04.500 What has that been like for you? 0.94

02:50:08.840 That is going to make it difficult for me to hit on women with this video.

02:50:13.020 So I, uh, but yeah, no, so, um, no, I'm, I'm a grandfather now.

02:50:21.580 My daughter has, uh, she has a three month old baby.

02:50:26.160 Obviously I think the baby's great because I am a grandfather and that's a thing that

02:50:30.580 we do.

02:50:31.120 That's, that's a cliche that I lean into and she is, she's pregnant again.

02:50:37.740 And, um, hopefully that pulls through as well.

02:50:42.040 So I guess to add a little meat to the story, this is a fun, religious, religious tale.

02:50:50.760 So my daughter, she is a type one diabetic and type one diabetics.

02:50:56.300 When they get pregnant, they have a they have a lot of problems and there's a high rate of miscarriage.

02:51:03.340 and she unfortunately her and uh her husband they you know they had that problem several times

02:51:12.120 and then they came at to ostara last year not this most recent one but the one previous

02:51:19.540 and they got married in the hoff and some of the ladies um i assume led by wit and brandy i i wasn't

02:51:29.400 i wasn't there because i wasn't i wasn't allowed to be there with the ladies but

02:51:33.240 they performed a fertility ritual over my daughter and uh and i bought her a little 0.92

02:51:39.480 you know fertility charm at an auction and um you know right after that happened and and we asked

02:51:47.880 you know for for the blessing uh she got pregnant and it took and now we have a granddaughter and

02:51:55.400 another grandchild on the way and it's um you know it i guess to some outsider it seems

02:52:05.200 coincidental but i mean literally a lot of problems carrying a child and then as soon as

02:52:12.760 this happened and she'll tell you my daughter you know completely on board with this take of things

02:52:19.000 it just

02:52:20.320 you know

02:52:22.980 the weird happens when you let it

02:52:25.420 when you acknowledge it

02:52:26.400 so that's great

02:52:28.480 the grandbaby is great

02:52:30.360 daughter's great 0.86

02:52:33.280 husband's great

02:52:34.600 everybody's doing really well

02:52:36.040 the end

02:52:39.720 you know

02:52:41.260 I'm very glad to hear it

02:52:44.240 um

02:52:44.680 i tried enjoying spending a few minutes with your grandchild grandchild got fussy with me

02:52:54.040 for a second we had to hand my head to back uh it happens i will i will work on mending that um

02:53:02.440 no but that's yeah that's awesome thank you for sharing that with folks um and it's beautiful to

02:53:09.680 see your daughter and your grandchildren and your just to see families in the afa flourish

02:53:18.560 is a really beautiful thing and we're extremely blessed with that

02:53:24.640 so we have an interesting question here thoughts on other european pagans

02:53:28.880 that want to work with and support somehow such as slavic or celtic backgrounds

02:53:35.040 um so there's a couple of things please anybody listening to this don't take offense if you are

02:53:49.040 in some other expression of aryan religiosity and you are there in a traditional and

02:54:00.080 sincere way

02:54:03.020 that's awesome

02:54:03.820 we appreciate

02:54:06.340 if that's if those people

02:54:08.820 who do want to help or be involved

02:54:10.600 what is

02:54:13.060 excuse me

02:54:14.980 all right

02:54:19.420 so

02:54:19.960 I was going to say

02:54:21.600 these suggestions

02:54:25.200 are not as cool as

02:54:26.780 I think people would want

02:54:29.100 I think people want some kind of let's form some kind of unity rally or let's do this or let's know what helps is everybody on here donating money.

02:54:39.320 Donating money always helps.

02:54:41.480 We've got a variety of causes that we raise money for, be it for New York's Hoff, be it for any of our future Hoffs,

02:54:50.200 be it for our folk that are struggling, that need help from folk services, or be it our targeted fundraising to help our folk who struggle with horrific and intentional ethnic cleansing in South Africa.

02:55:09.660 money helps

02:55:14.400 but what else helps

02:55:15.800 and what I think the ultimate answer is

02:55:17.800 join the AFA

02:55:19.460 and become

02:55:22.180 Alcetru in the way that you express

02:55:24.120 your faith

02:55:24.880 I know that that requires

02:55:27.680 a paradigm shift in certain ways

02:55:30.220 but I think it is

02:55:32.100 authentic, I think it does

02:55:33.960 still honor

02:55:34.900 our Aryan gods

02:55:37.600 and I think it does it in the best way

02:55:39.580 in the most authentic

02:55:41.780 way, and that's how you

02:55:43.800 help. Anybody who wants to support

02:55:45.920 and help, that's how you help as you get on the team.

02:55:48.800 We would love to have

02:55:49.840 you get on the team, and there's probably

02:55:51.740 really cool stuff we could learn from

02:55:53.640 what you do and how you do it.

02:55:57.520 Do you have any thoughts on that, John?

02:56:03.360 Not

02:56:03.760 really any new thoughts.

02:56:05.540 I mean, what's in a name?

02:56:08.200 You know, just

02:56:09.580 come be also true uh you know it's it's the it's the modern iteration

02:56:18.680 of the aryan religion i mean that's yes you're trying to revive one branch of it because it's

02:56:26.840 where you presently live i get it it's admirable your bloodlines are a lot older than that place

02:56:34.140 that you're living all of ours our this is the one that you know kind of what we talked about

02:56:40.280 earlier you know our pantheon our gods speaking to our people via different manners this is what

02:56:49.780 they are currently doing yeah get on the team um one of the things that is just true

02:56:59.480 we accomplish and we are much stronger together we are much stronger working together and as part of

02:57:10.040 a unified church we are much weaker and more insignificant the more we fracture into little

02:57:19.940 idiosyncratic groupings so get on the team doors open we would love to have you guys

02:57:29.480 Vril Mage donated $20 to us on rumble. Thanks for all the discussions. Hope New York's Hoff

02:57:37.640 gets paid off by early autumn. At the latest, Bull Run is here. So, awesome. Thank you so much.

02:57:50.000 We appreciate it. I certainly hope it gets paid off by early autumn. I think that is extremely

02:57:57.920 possible. I want

02:58:00.180 to see how probable I can make it

02:58:02.280 and I want to see if we can get us there.

02:58:04.820 And we will definitely try

02:58:06.280 and your donation helps.

02:58:08.600 So thank you.

02:58:13.780 Sorry, guys.

02:58:14.620 I still do have to navigate a little

02:58:16.380 bit here to get us where we're going.

02:58:18.340 I will say we've had our first

02:58:20.300 two donations tonight from Rumble.

02:58:22.260 So now I have to figure out how we get the money

02:58:24.180 off there. So that's going to be fun.

02:58:25.660 on the back end of rumble i see it in the uh transaction so so i'm glad we've got a good

02:58:33.520 rumble audience following us tonight that's awesome shout out to my people on rumble we

02:58:38.880 appreciate you guys and uh it's always good for nick to learn new skills we appreciate that

02:58:45.620 and you failed to see it uh

02:58:53.220 fine word of that sorry guys um so idk asks any chance of expanding into southern maryland

02:59:01.700 um we've got we've got tons of members well tons we've got quite a few members in maryland we've

02:59:07.060 got members all throughout maryland um yeah if you are not one of those members in maryland you

02:59:14.260 should join get on the team i was talking to it's funny how some of these things kind of come full

02:59:21.380 circle we talked about um go through rocks ordination at thorshof also ordained was

02:59:28.500 githya heather young and heather and i were speaking today about trying to get more activity

02:59:34.500 in that area what what we really need is to get somebody to step up and want to folk build in the

02:59:42.580 area in a relatively small geographic area in you know eastern pennsylvania new jersey

02:59:52.980 delaware maryland and in northern virginia they're got tons of people

02:59:59.860 don't have a folk builder helping us get it squared away but we do have some people um

03:00:04.820 trying to get our members there together more often and more effectively and we've got quite

03:00:10.740 a few members in maryland we just need somebody there uh hosting and getting stuff together

03:00:16.420 and as i mentioned uh githya young is setting up some things remotely to make sure some of those

03:00:22.340 uh moots happen there to get our members together even if and until we get a full builder in the

03:00:28.500 area so we absolutely got folks in southern maryland we'd always love to have more if you

03:00:33.700 find yourself in that area and you are a heterosexual white person wanting to reconnect

03:00:38.660 with the Aesir, please join us. In the Aoschu practice, how do you consider the Jotun slash

03:00:48.520 Etun, i.e. Loki, Ayer, Skavi, and Ymir? Devil's in the details, pun intended.

03:00:58.080 the word yotnar or eten it really is used for a variety of things in the lore

03:01:09.440 some of which are overtly malevolent some of which aren't and just represent

03:01:16.120 you know ancient beings of power that are not necessarily or perhaps situationally

03:01:24.800 aligned with the Aesir. Yes, in general, the Jotunar are in opposition to the Aesir.

03:01:35.960 We certainly oppose Loki. The other's a little bit different. Ayer is a little bit obscure.

03:01:46.520 There are some interactions with the Aesir that are beneficial. There is hostility. We don't

03:01:53.800 worship i year uh but i don't think we find ourselves in some kind of an opposition all the time

03:02:00.920 uh skavi

03:02:05.240 though jotun born marries into the icer with her union with norther

03:02:13.480 we don't have any any issue or problem with skavi she comes into alliance and becomes part of the

03:02:21.320 the Aesir. And Ymir is that element of primal chaos that is broken down to shape the world

03:02:33.600 of order and the world of beauty, certainly not on the team. Most of the Yotnar that you

03:02:42.220 encounter in the lore are uh you know the in opposition to the icer and thus we stand against

03:02:51.260 them because of our loyalty to the icer but they're special occasions and it's a term that

03:02:56.780 gets overused so it's not you know it requires a little bit of discernment of reading the lore and

03:03:05.340 you can see who is in opposition and who has allied themselves and become in harmony with

03:03:13.200 the Iser. I know that's not a pretty answer, but it is the honest answer, and it is what's

03:03:18.700 self-evident when you read the lore and its totality. Question, the myth of Loki being

03:03:26.660 bound with entrails uh and snake sounds like the a binding ritual could effigies have been treated

03:03:38.580 as him in a ritual so as to protect the tribe against knifings and winter john take that one

03:03:46.740 could the answer is yes i mean i who knows what has happened in dark forests over the thousands

03:03:57.160 of years i i am not aware of any evidence of such a thing such a specific thing happening

03:04:07.860 for such a specific purpose again it's it's one of those things when we're you know we're taking

03:04:15.060 the myth and we are extrapolating from it to think of how how we could use it i'm you know

03:04:22.580 it could did did someone in swabia at one point decide to try that out yeah probably i mean maybe

03:04:35.460 i i i don't know exactly where to go with that question i mean

03:04:39.620 no you're keeping it real that's that's the i i you're you're doing the right thing on answering

03:04:47.300 it yeah of course and i think that so we're getting it from um

03:04:58.580 so i'll be on the poster of the question finding

03:05:02.660 finding all these points of connectivity is really good and there is value to that and

03:05:11.700 it's awesome and i appreciate the questions that you ask quite a bit i'm glad you asked

03:05:15.700 them i hope you keep asking and ask more um certainly that could happen like john said

03:05:23.940 we have no reason to believe that it does happen did happen um

03:05:32.660 And this isn't pointed.

03:05:37.240 Nah, it just is what it is.

03:05:38.500 Anyways, sure.

03:05:41.680 And we know that sometimes there is ritual drama or whatnot.

03:05:48.100 There's a lot of ways that you could ritualize something to be reminiscent of that in a way to stave off bad things.

03:05:57.560 But there's no reason to believe it is that.

03:06:01.040 It was ever used that way.

03:06:02.520 and i don't know anyone who's ever done that and i don't know that there is a reason to do that

03:06:13.960 um yeah so i mean sure of course somebody could but i have never heard of that being done

03:06:23.320 and i don't see a compelling reason to do that over any other

03:06:28.280 simpler ways to try to ward off bad stuff yeah i would suspect that it's not been done because

03:06:36.460 when i consider it i guess the best way to look at that question is to think

03:06:40.380 would i do it you know would you know and then our ancestors probably would have thought the same way

03:06:46.480 the the binding of loki is a is a reactionary punishment i mean it's if you're wanting to

03:06:53.800 ward and protect why don't we just go with the known wards and protect it's like you know you

03:07:02.840 you do the the thor warding i mean he is the you know the aggressive proactive protection of

03:07:11.000 something i feel like if you're trying to do a drama of bound loki you're almost inviting the

03:07:17.160 bad thing to happen but just letting it know that you'll avenge it you know i mean if you're in a

03:07:22.600 spot where you were administering justice and your method of doing so is tying somebody up

03:07:31.800 and dripping acid on their face um i mean it makes sense as you taking that and trying to

03:07:40.040 cross apply it but i've never heard of that being done and i think that's a really long drawn out

03:07:46.920 way of doing stuff that may make much more sense when it's a god upon another god in a mythical

03:07:54.680 plane and there's much easier and more efficient ways of administering justice in a society to

03:08:01.080 where you have that that power to do that um is it acceptable and or encouraged for afa members

03:08:10.760 to worship their ethnic gods in private while also worshiping the iser in group rituals say

03:08:18.280 someone is eastern european can they worship the gods in their slavic form in private to better

03:08:23.960 connect with their slavic ancestors sure um is i mean is it acceptable sure if that's how

03:08:39.240 you worship in your home okay um isn't encouraged no it's not discouraged but it is encouraged to

03:08:52.040 bring your home practice and your traditions in line with the afa traditions and to bring what

03:09:01.880 you're doing into an ever closer harmony with what we're all doing um and that goes back to

03:09:10.120 kind of a theme that we've talked about this evening the more all of the elements of your

03:09:18.600 practice or all of the elements of your life harmonize and work with one another and sync up

03:09:27.320 the healthier and more effective you are at life and at your connection and at all of the things

03:09:36.840 you're trying to achieve because synergy is just that all of the pieces working together

03:09:44.760 develop a combined momentum or potency that's greater than the sum of their parts

03:09:51.480 The more you do and segment things in your life in ways that don't quite match up, the less effective harnessing that bonus synergy momentum I think that you are.

03:10:09.880 Again, that's not wrong. It's not bad. It's not verboten. But the closer that your personal practice is with AFA practice, the better we all are able to align our spiritual potency and direct it towards a goal, if that's helpful.

03:10:31.480 his question is the ubiquitous uh jadeite stone axe slash hammer at all related to the later

03:10:46.300 indo-european axe slash hammer willing wielding thunder god always wondered that uh the indo

03:10:55.120 Europeans did not

03:10:57.000 come from the Stone Age

03:10:58.400 or did come from the same Stone

03:11:01.220 Age groups.

03:11:04.660 John,

03:11:05.360 what are your thoughts on that?

03:11:10.400 I

03:11:11.000 don't pretend to know

03:11:13.340 but I would think

03:11:15.300 so. I mean

03:11:15.820 our religion is

03:11:19.060 that old.

03:11:21.060 I think a lot of people, you know, when they

03:11:23.080 consider our religion

03:11:25.040 They are considering it in the modern antiquity, I guess.

03:11:30.180 But no, I do believe that we had the worship of a striker god in the Stone Age.

03:11:38.360 And so it is reasonable that that we were fashioning hammers out of, you know, or striking implements out of what we saw as rare and precious stuff.

03:11:57.660 I can't say definitively.

03:12:01.620 There you have it, folks.

03:12:08.360 sure what john said so i tend okay so i tend to think so too but without having

03:12:19.040 some kind of more extensive deep dive into that i don't want to overspeak but

03:12:26.700 Yes, the striker marriage between earth and heaven deity is one of the oldest attested expressions of deity amongst our folk.

03:12:48.660 I would not be surprised if that connection is expressed in the ways that you mentioned.

03:12:53.920 In fact, I would think that it is until I have reason to believe otherwise.

03:12:59.020 And yeah, our folk, our faith, and our people extend back certainly into the Stone Age.

03:13:09.660 They extend back into the Ice Age and beyond.

03:13:15.940 And so those points of connectivity exist in the very, very distant past.

03:13:23.920 And in fact, when you go to, I've been really blessed in my time in the AFA, I've been to Denmark, Norway, and Sweden and done rituals in each of those countries in stone circles and amongst sacred sites.

03:13:50.200 and those stone circles and sacred sites aren't viking stuff they're neolithic things the dolmens

03:13:59.920 and the that culture in europe is is neolithic it predates the viking age it predates the quote

03:14:08.860 unquote, Celtic period, they are absolutely Ousitru sites, but they are much older than

03:14:16.120 the expressions of culture that archaeologists have given those different names to.

03:14:30.560 All right, so Tyler in Virginia donated $10 towards paying off Njortzhoff.

03:14:37.140 thank you so much Tyler it's much appreciated everyone has been shockingly generous this

03:14:45.880 evening I figured you guys would be able to help out because you guys are amazing like that but I

03:14:52.880 am blown away about the amount of you guys answering the call and in such a really big way

03:14:58.960 this is huge we'll run percentages and see how much percent we've paid off here shortly

03:15:06.360 but we've made, you know, like I said,

03:15:11.000 we've made well over $1,300-ish progress

03:15:16.100 in just a few short hours because you guys are amazing.

03:15:19.740 I am very deeply thankful for it.

03:15:23.840 John, it has been an honor to have you on the program tonight.

03:15:27.720 You are, we're very proud of you.

03:15:31.660 We're very proud to have you amongst our priesthood.

03:15:39.740 Yeah, thank you for all that you do.

03:15:42.500 Thank you for being a guest this evening.

03:15:44.840 And we are excited to see all of the amazing things that we will do together in the future.

03:15:50.380 So thank you for joining us.

03:15:53.840 Thank you, sir.

03:15:54.700 It's a great honor to be here.

03:15:55.760 uh yeah this just in we have raised 1445 dollars in the last three hours and 13 minutes because

03:16:08.460 you guys are fantastic i love you guys and i'm very very appreciative uh next week witness fawn

03:16:16.800 and i will go into part three of the volsunga saga i hope y'all are enjoying it we are there

03:16:24.640 is a lot of material to cover but it is it's really important it's something we really enjoy

03:16:31.440 and it's something that i hope is very beneficial to everybody listening we look forward to seeing

03:16:36.880 you guys all then till then hail the icier hail the folk hail the astru folk assembly

03:16:45.520 Hail Hauken Yarrow, Hail Stoba, and remember, victory never sleeps.

03:17:15.520 We'll be right back.

03:17:45.520 Thank you.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - April 10, 2025

4⧸9⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 144 - Goði Rock

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