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00:07:17.580other top of the show happens i don't think we really have any this week
00:07:25.100um thank you for everybody who is joining us in the chat just so everybody knows
00:07:31.620this is largely question and answer driven that's why last week we uh only got through i think one
00:07:39.180section of the poem because we had so many amazing questions so feel free to ask questions
00:07:46.140to take the conversation where you'd like we will take you know some breaks periodically to answer
00:07:52.140questions but we're going to start off and what i would like to commit to doing tonight
00:07:58.620is making it through the battle hall section um so that's going to be kind of our
00:08:07.740where we're getting started uh anybody who would like to follow along we are going through the
00:08:12.780the poem the gilf beginning and you'll find that at thelispow.org
00:08:22.060it is in the poetic etta you can read whatever translation you like that shouldn't matter but
00:08:28.860if you want to read exactly word for word where svan and i are at that's where we are and they
00:08:35.180put up a link for anybody that needs to follow. With that, Svan, would you like to take us into
00:08:43.820the text? Absolutely. I also would like to just give a brief congratulations to Annika and Nick
00:08:55.660gun uh their hospitality that i received is was uh comparative to no one they were amazing so
00:09:07.260congratulations guys um swan for those who don't know what are you congratulating them for
00:09:14.540other than being hospitable to you oh for their wedding i'm sorry i thought i said uh for their
00:09:19.980wedding uh their uh newlyweds and um they flew me um across the country to come out and preside
00:09:29.180over their wedding in washington state and there was a lot of folk there that were not ausitru
00:09:38.300and i always find that these are uh auspicious and magical times to introduce a lot of folk
00:09:48.120to our faith in a non-pressured context, whether that pressure is in their mind.
00:09:55.920And they had, they witnessed the majesty of the gods synchronized with perfect timing. And I feel
00:10:06.100that I really helped in creating that bridge, the pontifex, if you will, between the folk and
00:10:15.220the gods, but really it was the grace of the gods that showed up. And it was far more than I think
00:10:25.780that they were prepared for. And it led to some really good conversations with some of the folk.
00:10:33.460I hope at least they've come to our website, runestone.org, to learn more and understand
00:10:42.740and perhaps destroy some misconceptions but by the time I left I really did feel most everybody
00:10:50.720there was in a completely different thought as to perhaps what their prejudgments might have had
00:10:58.560and it was just a wonderful event beautiful the weather was again very sporadic but talking about
00:11:06.540the weather as if it's just the weather is kind of funny considering what we went through where
00:11:11.960um uh lord thor showed up and um there was a split in the sky of a cloudy hailing day where we
00:11:24.040received sun um from sol and it was just for that time it was amazing i can't speak of it enough
00:11:36.080But I wanted to congratulate them and thank everybody that came out to the wedding.
00:11:43.840And, you know, if you're not familiar with Ausatru wedding ceremonies, I do believe they're just the perfect mixture of straightforward oath taking and cutting through all the din of, I think, a lot of the showmanship that may come from more modern weddings.
00:12:04.600And yet, at the same time, it's not all about the rabbi. I've gone to Christian weddings where you hear more about Jesus than you do about what's going on.
00:12:21.180And I'm just really proud of our faith. I'm very proud of the connectivity and what it does to people who have never witnessed it before. They were awoken to something in their blood that just they couldn't deny.
00:12:42.440they were extremely happy and they felt like even though they were perhaps strangers
00:12:50.280in the faith it was so familiar to them it was like a fingerprint that they
00:12:57.960uh just decided to suddenly kind of like look at and focus on so thank you for sharing that
00:13:05.320with all of us and thank you for going out there and uh performing your duty in that way it's
00:13:13.000congratulations to the guns two lovely people i'm very excited for them and the family that
00:13:20.280they are starting that's awesome them coming together as as man or wife that is something
00:13:25.640that we're all very excited about anybody doesn't know they are both uh folk builders in the afa
00:13:31.160and just two two lovely people there in that spokane washington area so um
00:13:40.600Um, it's interesting when stuff like that happens and it happens not infrequently to
00:13:51.000where the, the weather or the circumstance will synchronize with what we're doing and
00:13:59.420comply at the right moments where it's needed to, or, uh, you know, be meaningfully impactful.0.81
00:14:05.380And it's, in my experience, weddings and funerals are very special in that Asavatnes are baby namings.
00:14:16.820Sometimes people have family there that attend those that aren't Ausatru and aren't familiar with what we do.0.99
00:14:22.880But weddings and funerals really bring out a mix of people, many of whom may have zero exposure to Ausatru.
00:14:33.100and you know any ideas they might have about what we do and i don't fault them they come by
00:14:39.500it naturally i think everybody's curious i know i was very curious before i went to my first event
00:14:45.260saw my first house of truth ceremony so it's really such a positive thing when family and
00:14:52.700friends get to see this that we do feel the presence of the gods there hopefully and
00:15:03.100You know, see that we're sincere people doing something that is meaningful to us and they can really feel it. I've, uh, haven't heard a lot of negative, like it seems resoundingly at all of the, all of the weddings, all of the funerals and the people that I know that have tended to be awesome.
00:15:23.540they come away with a deep respect and like an appreciation for what they do or for what we do
00:15:33.080and for what their friend or their loved one is doing. That's really cool. It's an important
00:15:38.700opportunity and I'm glad this one was successful like the rest. So weddings are often done in
00:15:50.700in great halls with feasting and celebration. Talking about feasting and celebration,
00:15:57.500tell us about the Einherjahr in Vapahol. It's fun. Absolutely.
00:16:03.900And I think there's some things that the audience should consider. One is the detail that is brought
00:16:13.020about is done because of hall culture um it would be very similar to say ballroom culture
00:16:23.100that we have today and i most people might not even be familiar with that unless
00:16:27.900they're into ballroom dancing and or in the military there are many times where a
00:16:34.220kind of ballroom culture is a set about where tables have meaning and there's
00:16:40.460There's an itinerary of celebration of certain members being recognized and getting a chance to speak.
00:16:48.940And then dancing and drinking and things.
00:16:53.000There's many different little nuanced rules.
00:16:59.600It's so important that the details are really, really focused.
00:17:07.620And so bear that in mind. That's why this is kind of coming in. It may seem kind of encapsulated in one spot, but the idea of the heavenly realm reflecting and or vice versa, it's this exchange between an understanding.
00:17:31.320There is surely a spiritual and metaphysical explanation, but it also shows us how our ancestors valued these areas and these kind of interactions between, say, warriors in the Mead Hall.
00:17:47.660And that praise reflects back on the folk as to what is extremely important.
00:17:55.560I'm not saying that this isn't how it is, but I definitely believe that the sustenance and the exchange is one of a greater spiritual, but yet also simultaneously a reflection of our folk and where we are at living in Midgard.
00:18:18.080And so you get a kind of peek into that. So 38, of the food of the Einherjar and Odin. So right away, it's interesting. The food of the Einherjar, for those who don't know, the Einherjar are selected souls brought up into the heavenly realm.
00:18:46.080Access to heaven in our faith is not open to everyone.
00:18:50.880If it's open to everyone, it's open to no one.
00:18:54.420But the other point of it is, is that it is about access through proving to the divine of worthiness.
00:19:01.700That could be in your life, that could be in your praise, and both.
00:19:08.180but the bridge to heaven is a shimmering bridge whereas the bridge to the to the dead
00:19:16.800is a wide bridge that's covered so it lasts and what that means is we all must face death
00:19:24.360but not all of us gain elevation we should strive but
00:19:31.240that shows a very kind of uh parallel that's i think interesting a side note for people
00:19:40.680following along i'm here we use terms a lot that i think we just repeat without sometimes
00:19:49.160understanding what their meaning is and i'll make sure everybody understands um
00:19:53.400um the hair is the war band iron is a singular the hair yar is a warrior so like the individual
00:20:06.600warrior um which is linguistically awkward and I think intentionally so for us to consider
00:20:19.600and it you know it it it it is reminiscent not to be cheesy of the the army's recruiting slogan
00:20:27.920the army of one thing yeah it is very it literally means army of one and it is a
00:20:35.200collection of armies of one which you know they could have just said the harry are um
00:20:42.640um or the herion or whatever to differentiate the numbers there they it is the individual warriors
00:20:54.240and like it's an awkward phrase and it doesn't match linguistically and one of the
00:20:58.640the implications of that i think is important
00:21:00.960i i also eastern religions there is a concept of like merging with this
00:21:16.800one this this like galactic soup of undifferentiation the goal and the the
00:21:26.240idea of paradise to our ancestors and to us is individuation is being an individual maintaining
00:21:34.320your will maintaining your consciousness maintaining your individualness as a solid
00:21:42.640in the afterlife and that's i think that that that's important with the implication of the name
00:21:51.760these are elevated individuals and it very much continues the cult of the hero into the heavenly
00:21:59.120realm i think a lot of people don't realize that when they talk about collective soul uh
00:22:07.840in relation is is that you are losing something or they're detaching from something i think that's
00:22:13.440very Eastern, whereas we see the soul carrying the memories of this world beyond and being able
00:22:22.340to enact their will even beyond representing or speaking of. All of these things are super
00:22:32.420important. And if we are living our lives and life is a gift, the moment you cross over the
00:22:39.280veil and you're just kind of merged in the soup, it lessens, I think. That concept lessens
00:22:48.960the overarching point of being in Orlal and having actions and doing things. And so much so,0.98
00:22:59.920Lord Odin is also selecting those individuals and I love the fact that the usage of the word
00:23:10.040harrying or uh has also been kind of placed in parallel with rising above like the um in the
00:23:18.520Marine Corps they have a jet called a harrier and there's also I believe a harrier hawk and so this
00:23:53.740the three kings of the Aesir, who is really one, and this is Lord Odin, and that's why at the mural
00:24:06.080at Odinsoth, there is a runic bit that says he is three but one, and one but three,
00:24:13.320and he is engaging in questions, so that's who Gangleri is.
00:24:20.440Then said Gangleri, thou saidest that all those men who have fallen in battle from the beginning of the world are now come to Odin in Valhall?
00:24:40.000I should think that a very great host must be there.
00:24:44.640Now, bear in mind, the word host is not referring to Lord Odin.
00:24:48.420it's referring to the totality of the Einherjar. That word is very much like guest. The idea is
00:24:57.540that linguistically, with weight, it means both the host and the guest, and that they are
00:25:04.980sharing. But in this case, Lord Odin is the host of the host. They are the totality. And again,
00:25:15.640he is functioning on logistics, because that was a very important part. If you were going to
00:25:23.200house folk over the winter, it was very much a way to spread the word of your hospitality,
00:25:34.120and it was no small matter. And it is done, we've obviously reading quite a few of the
00:25:42.480stories in the sagas, and you see that they take a whole war band over for the winter,
00:25:51.460and then those praises are sung. So that's why he would immediately go into this
00:25:58.300about logistics. Then Haur, Hai, answered, that which thou sayest is true.
00:26:12.480A very mighty multitude is there, but many more shall be, notwithstanding which it will seem all too small in the time when the wolf shall come.
00:26:26.680Despite its great size, we would wish to have more when Ragnarok is what he's saying.
00:26:33.680But never is it so vast a multitude in Bauhal
00:26:39.940That the flesh of the boar shall fail0.99
00:28:33.160So the idea is, very few will be able to report, one, because they have passed beyond the veil, but they also are limited to the access of the core and central heart of Lord Odin.
00:28:48.520His name who roasts it is Andhrimnur. Now Andhrimnur is the cook of the Einherjar. And there are a lot of different suggestions as to what his name means, but soot from the fire.
00:29:14.160So he is encrusted in soot. I guess it's kind of similar to, like, never trust a skinny chef, never trust a chef that's not covered in soot from cooking for everyone.
00:29:31.400So, his name who roasts it is Andhrimnur, and the kettle is Eldhrimnur, so it is said. Now, eld is fire, flame, so it is a roasting pot that is blackened and constantly wreathed in flame.
00:29:54.300And this also speaks to some of the dietary points is that, you know, in the Northlands ready with water, water was a valuable source or not a value.
00:30:05.780I mean, it was a readily available source and it was a great way to extract maximum nutrients.
00:30:11.420So a lot of the meat is boiled low and slow at an extraordinary amount of time so that it just melts off the bone.
00:30:24.300And hrimnur has in eldhrimnur sai hrimnur sodden. Kind of they do that alliterative hit.
00:30:39.420so sooty encrusted has flame encrusted inside it is salt encrusted or ocean encrusted best of
00:30:53.920hams yet how few know with that food the champions are fed then said gangliri has
00:31:02.340Oven the same fare as the champions? And Haur answered, that food which stands on his board
00:31:12.480he gives to his two wolves, which he has called Geri and Frecki, but no food does he need.
00:31:22.500Wine is both food and drink to him, so it says here, Geri and Frecki, the war mighty
00:31:30.200gluteth, is that correct? The glorious god of hosts, but on wine alone the weapon glorious
00:31:40.780Odin I liveth. So here we have the setting of the idea that the modernal, the
00:31:51.960feasting function of eating is beyond. It is only the deep and enlightening wine.
00:32:01.400The rest goes to the beast that is in control, that Lord Odin is in control of.
00:32:11.120Um, but I, I do find that kind of interesting that the, the necessity to state it, it, it does, uh, it lays about something as the kids might say as aura maxing.
00:32:28.540But the point of it is, is that it would, to the audience, be kind of awe-inspiring that the food that is dined upon is never taken to his higher self.
00:32:47.260It's always the animalistic, but it is also the drive for his knowledge in an active sense versus drive for knowledge in the passive sense with Heunin and Munin.
00:33:02.720And of course, they call him the God of hosts.
00:33:08.800The ravens sit on his shoulder and say into his ear, all tidings which they see or hear.
00:33:17.260They are called thus, Heuin and Meunin.
00:33:22.980He sends them at daybreak to fly about all the world, and they come back at Undern meal, late night meal or dinner.
00:33:34.560Thus, he is acquainted with many tidings.
00:33:38.500Therefore, men call him the Raven God.0.75
00:33:42.240As is said, Heuin and Meunin hover each day.0.70
00:33:46.660the wide earth over. I fear for Huwin, lest he fare not back. Yet watch I more for Munin.
00:33:57.800A couple of things. We've spoken about the cosmology of our ancestors that the belief of
00:34:06.460in the center of Midgard, there is the heavenly mountains. And there, Lord Odin from Valhall,
00:34:15.480from Heath's scalp is sending out, watching, observing, gaining knowledge of all the goings
00:34:25.220on. So I really do encourage our folk to understand this is not some sort of cerebral
00:34:33.420game. The gods are watching. The gods are invested. The gods care about what's going on
00:34:42.380in the world, and in particular with their folk. So I would love just Ausatruir to
00:34:51.580really take into consideration that Heimdallur, Lord Odin, the gods in total gathering to council
00:35:03.560at the well, these are all points in which we should consider. And I think a lot of people do,
00:35:11.260perhaps they're saying it as a kind of cultural tagline, but there is often a point where we say,
00:35:20.340holy gods, witness us, witness our deeds, watch our deeds, or watch what we are doing. And this
00:35:27.280is really important. I know that a lot of people who have studied maybe a little further in have
00:35:32.560heard of the word psychopomp um that uh lord odin is a psychopomp but the point of that whether
00:35:41.120we're talking about the classical sense uh where it was the it was defined with hermes um or mercury
00:35:50.920in the roman uh faith um he is deeply connected to the consciousness of the individual so the breath
00:36:01.900that was given remains and has that connectivity. And so there is that concern. I want to be
00:36:10.760witnessed. I want to be elevated. It's the drive to do so. Where Lord Tyr, I think, is more concerned
00:36:20.140with the totality of the living and where they go from after war, Lord Odin has even more so of that
00:36:30.060is not only is he concerned with the wars and the victory but also with the individual souls
00:36:36.280and out of them who will be brought up um so he said
00:36:42.960point out a couple of things for anybody who might um might not know because there's times
00:36:51.900for you just get lost trying to translate every name of everything but when getting this uh
00:36:59.080important glimpse at odin some of these things the names of his wolves are greedy and ravenous
00:37:12.840the fact that wolves are an interesting
00:37:17.800an interesting animal in the poetry of the ancestors they are there is nobility to them
00:37:27.960but there's also a dark side there's also the larger um there's certainly an element of devouring
00:37:38.840and of like like um monstrous devouring you see wolves uh skull and haiti that try to devour the
00:37:49.800sun and the moon you see uh fenrir and you see these like very voracious hard to control hard
00:37:59.640to hold back threatening forces um the master of inspiration odin sits and he has two of these
00:38:08.520wolves that are his pets that he feeds you know that he feeds food from the table that he's able
00:38:15.320to to tame these ferocious and wild things and that's one of the interesting facts when you
00:38:22.920start going into odin and things about him it is frenzy and like an uncontrolled fury seemingly
00:38:33.720but it's in fact quite controlled the fact that he has the mastery um
00:38:40.040um because Odin means like the furious one or whatever without context but I think more
00:38:48.800more properly the master of fury the master of inspiration the master of the the road or the
00:38:56.060older he is able to be overcome with the inspiration but maintain the control he's
00:39:06.200maintain control and not be given to uh losing his ability to master things like these two wolves
00:39:19.240and also i think the the point about the the ravens is very interesting and
00:39:25.800i don't know the restating of him fearing to lose you know he fears losing both of them
00:39:33.480but he fears losing uh more uh hugan means thought munan means memory so he sends these
00:39:46.280he sends his thoughts and his memories and these agents of collecting those things and seeing the
00:39:53.160world and experiencing midgard out and they come back and report back to him the idea that
00:39:58.520and i think many of us can relate to this and things we've had in our lives or if we've seen
00:40:05.280people go into a state of dementia the idea of losing your your faculties to think is terrifying
00:40:14.520but the idea of losing your memory all the more so and all the more tragic and i think that's
00:40:19.480just kind of a poignant thing the other thing i would like to point out to this is interesting
00:40:24.760There is a tendency amongst people who come from a Christian background to inherently take things far too literally.
00:40:40.980And I think this is an interesting occasion of that.
00:40:43.500So it talks about how all of the men fallen in battle from the beginning of the world go to Valhalla.
00:40:54.480well that's not the case in a literal sense and we know that even in amongst the corpus of the lore
00:41:00.480it talks about how lady freya gets a portion of these battle dead in the same kind of scenario
00:41:08.160and it talks about how they all fit in this hall a regular hall like that fitting them all in you
00:41:14.400wouldn't even be able to tell from where you're sitting it was a hall it would be so vast it's
00:41:18.800It's incalculable and like it wouldn't make any sense.
00:41:25.420The idea that there is a special place in the halls of the gods and in the presence of the Allfather for noble warriors who have had the courage to test themselves in the field of battle is the point.
00:41:42.380the idea that these individual warriors there's no point in talking about the iron here you are
00:41:48.140if everybody who's ever died in battle gets to make it there no it talks about how these special
00:41:54.160chosen ones get to be there so having a little bit of flexibility into where you're not missing
00:42:01.860the point for the um for the poetic description i think is is worth noting and very relevant here
00:42:11.520the idea that the gods can call up and welcome into their halls those who have impressed them
00:42:17.540or those who, for whatever reasons they might have, they choose to want to bring closer to them.
00:42:24.420And it goes into something Svon was talking about.
00:42:26.220We always want the gods to be proud of us, and we want them to witness our deeds.
00:42:33.680We want to, this is sewn in on a macro and a micro level, but it's so very at odds with the humble theme of Christianity that's been so pervasive.
00:42:49.180It's very awkward for people. Even long-time mausages who are very humble, don't want a lot of attention sometimes because in our society it's unseemly to brag or to showboat.
00:43:05.100there's a fine line between doing that in a boorish and churlish way and doing things
00:43:13.240very much to earn fame in the eyes of your folk the eyes of your ancestors and very importantly
00:43:20.840in this instance in the eyes of the gods we want to build our fame and our worth
00:43:26.620letting other people know our worth that's the root of a lot of these concepts words really do
00:43:33.840matter but that's what worship comes from is worth ship or the idea of assigning worth or
00:43:41.840recognizing the worth of and an archaic sense of that you'd read in arthurian legend the knights
00:43:51.680would travel to go to tournaments and do great deeds to win worship which is an odd thing and
00:43:58.880it would sound like an odd thing in the christian period but that's still when our ancestors
00:44:02.960understood the idea of worship meaning you are increasing your your worth these people hero worship
00:44:13.040wasn't to our ancestors some kind of an improper idolatry it was a celebration
00:44:19.680of worthy men and women who ought to be celebrated in such a way that the
00:44:26.240magnitude might draw the attention of the gods and hopefully their approval
00:44:32.960While I've got a break for a second, Caleb donated $250 towards the Baldershof steeple, saying thank you to the Baldershof full, who saved me this much on a rental car.
00:44:46.760So, awesome. Thank you, Caleb. We appreciate you.
00:44:52.160And Svon, let's find out about what the Einherjahr drink.
00:45:00.040i uh i just wanted to tip my hat to virginia oliveria um that was that's a great comment um
00:45:09.680so of the drink of the einherjar the importance of uh supping a drink in whole culture
00:45:22.320is as important today as it was then so then said ganglary what have the champions to drink
00:45:32.540that may suffice them as abundantly as the food available or is water drunk there then said how
00:45:42.040Now thou askest strangely, as if all father would invite to him kings or arles or other men of might, and would give them water to drink?
00:45:57.260So we can see the line of questioning here is, obviously he's supping on wine, what does everyone else drink?
00:46:25.560in the sense that it's a proclamation of faith,
00:46:29.120which would not seem outside at that time.
00:46:32.800So, to say you have great faith by the gods, by your ancestors, is not out of place.
00:46:41.540I know by my faith that many a man comes to Valhall who would think he had bought his drink of water dearly.
00:46:52.480he paid the price and fought valiantly and would not abide by simply gaining just water
00:47:04.640if there were not better cheer to be had there he who before had suffered wounds and was burning
00:47:14.760pain unto death. I can tell thee a different tale of this. There is a she-goat, and her name
00:47:23.780is Hidrun. Stands up in Valhau and bites the needles from the limbs of the tree, which is1.00
00:47:36.000very famous and is called Lairauder, and from her udders runs so copiously that she fills a tun,0.90
00:47:47.880a giant barrel, every day. That tun is so great that all the champions become quite drunk from it.
00:47:59.260Then said Ganglary, that is a wondrous proper goat for them. It must be an exceeding good tree from which she eats.
00:48:11.240So we have a couple things here. One, anybody who's familiar with an ash tree might say needles. And it's worth noting that the exact specification of the genus of Yggdrasil is different sometimes in different poems.
00:48:36.700So I think what that really is, is that there were multiple takes of the coniferous to the ash, and it survives in the stories. Some of the folk would attest to a yew tree or perhaps a fir tree, and then, of course, the ash.
00:48:59.180So you find that, and that's where kind of just that consideration of perhaps where, you know, things are coming from.
00:49:10.780The other thing is the measurement of the TUN, which is not modern, but is at this time extremely rare.
00:49:18.900So anybody who's a former Marine or a Marine currently would know, as the Marine Corps was founded in a tavern called Tun Tavern, which is a barrel size for tapping and drawing from.
00:49:38.120and it is quite big um but what is going on here is there is a symbiosis or
00:49:48.760there is a a draw there's a symbiosis is that he the rune the shining rune she is drawing from
00:49:57.960from Yggdrasil, or, and this is another time that a lot of folks might not know, that there are
00:50:07.240other names. Leirauder is a perfectly kind of acceptable title, but again, most people might
00:50:16.420not know. Leirauder is Yggdrasil, and as she draws nourishment from the tree to feed the Einherjar,
00:50:28.040the symbiotic part is that the Einherjar are there to protect the tree, the gods. It is there
00:50:36.940in heaven with them. And so there's a kind of nourishment or maintaining stability and order
00:50:45.780as chaos is that which will disrupt it. So it is symbiotic.
00:50:56.500Then spoke Haur. Even more worthy of note is the heart.
00:51:02.220eik three me now eik means oak um and i have been looking i was looking up earlier just the
00:51:11.860translation of three me um i i uh i don't know i was here to go if you were kind of on that already
00:51:20.900because i was looking for it it was a little perplexing but what we start to see is the
00:51:28.160mentioning of the consumptive nature of Yggdrasil, like a battery, like a river, there are multiple
00:51:39.220sources pulling out of it. Not all of it is seen as chaotic. Not all of it is seen as detrimental.
00:51:45.260A lot of it is. But there is also this law of exchange between taking from Lairauder and giving something in return, whether it's the watering of the roots by the Nornir or whether it's the protection of it from chaos.
00:52:07.260chaos it's it is the sacred center um so again it is right that's what i can find on the name
00:52:17.580because i was looking at that i've been looking a lot is like the thorny oak okay uh yeah here
00:52:25.900me i i i can see thorn but um it wasn't the usual spelling of it so that's why it was throwing me
00:52:35.660off and again uh oaks don't like have oak thorny or oak spiked right okay well and that could refer
00:52:47.020to the antlers that's another thing that a lot of scholars don't do is they don't look at um
00:52:53.740the poetic value they look at direct translation and when you're looking at the poetic value and
00:53:00.460seeing that you know the heart with the horns um standing amongst uh yggdrasil now does this mean
00:53:09.340that yggdrasil or lyra there is solely an uh an oak oh now we're going to go from ash to you to
00:53:18.700oak it's supposed to be mysterious and not fully it that gray zone is part of the magic um
00:53:28.940um so it could also reference to the antler's size and color being like oak and then having
00:53:37.340uh many points but uh i think people read into it kind of demanding some sense of just a linear
00:53:47.640point but all of these trees are extremely important and have huge amounts of
00:53:55.840value to our ancestors. And so Lairauder or Yggdrasil is all of these things as it is
00:54:08.100needed to be understood. And then yet it is not a tree at all. But the circulatory system of
00:54:18.240the universe and the central point of order amongst the gods of cosmic order and the roots
00:54:25.740go far and wide. And, you know, there are some people that claim that all of the roots of Yggdrasil
00:54:34.080are in the lower world. That would be very similar to saying that amongst the Greco-Romans,
00:54:41.280that Mount Olympus starts in the underworld. But the foundation of something is very, very
00:54:50.500important. And where it is, as well as its importance of how it reconnects to things,
00:54:59.660the third root, it's not the tap root, it's the last of the roots, is lifted up into the,
00:55:07.880exalted into the heavenly realm where there is a wellspring. And there the gods utilize that,
00:55:14.060but the first one is in the lowest realm it's the tap root and it draws its way all the way up and
00:55:20.940that's because our and i've spoken about this our ancestors um seeing the cosmos not as individual
00:55:28.460bubbles hanging from leaves or or roots but that very much so what they were seeing around them
00:55:36.380There was the mountains where the tree and the roots go through the mountains and through Midgar and into the unknown and those well springs are produced from that.
00:55:49.540And that, I think, was much more understanding to their to their mind. It was the sacred center.
00:55:55.920and that didn't necessarily have to be a shish kebab kind of concept or having something like
00:56:07.240that it was beyond that and didn't necessarily need and then those roots were the circulatory
00:56:13.860because remember folks all roots draw up and there are three roots one in the heavenly realm
00:56:20.600one in the middle realm and one in the lower. So all of it returns back to the heavenly realm
00:56:29.040in its own ways. And that's why Nidogar is trying to destroy that root. As everything sits down,
00:56:39.740it is returned back up, and he wants to break that cycle. So Gangleri says, that is a wondrous
00:56:51.060and properist goat for them. It must be an exceedingly good tree from which she eats.
00:56:57.980Then spoke Haur, even more worthy of note, is the heart, Eikthriani, which stands in Valhall and0.99
00:57:06.300bites from the limbs of the tree, and from his horns distills such abundant exudation0.98
00:57:14.400that it comes down into Vergelmer, which is the wellspring in the lower world that I was just
00:57:24.100kind of referring to. So the light and emanation goes all the way down, even to the darkest,
00:57:33.280kind of farthest away from the gods where things are not fully defined and are misty and
00:57:46.080waiting. And so that's the horns giving off this light. And from thence fall those rivers
00:58:00.180called thus. Now, bear in mind, too, the rivers. There are rivers mentioned in Grimnismel,
00:58:08.720and I've done some extensive work with the priesthood about how we know the 11 rivers
00:58:15.900in the underworld, but then there are man rivers or Midgard rivers, and then there are rivers
00:58:22.020in heaven on top of these rivers that we, well, some of them are referenced from Grimnismel.
00:58:30.180But that is what brought me to kind of explaining, giving kind of a dissertation on why there are liminal rivers in heaven, in Midgard, and below, but the spiritual weight of the rivers is different than, say, the physical rivers in the Midworld, and that's noted in their names.
00:58:58.200So flowing from his horns, the dew that's gathered as he is in the height of Lairauder, it says from thence fall those rivers called thus.
00:59:15.240There is seethe, and I'm actually looking for the Nordic, yeah.
01:00:41.300And try to find multiple sources, and you'll see how translations kind of work.
01:00:46.160The worst thing I think that I've seen is somebody translating, it is a sacred river, and then leaves it at that.
01:00:53.640Um, but the, uh, biggest thing too, is some of these rivers are mentioned in the Grimnismal, which is what led me to looking at these rivers being in heavenly abode and, um, they flow from and flow into our world.
01:01:14.320So when Lord Thor steps over the rivers, he's not stepping over rivers in Midgar, he's stepping over rivers in the heavenly realm, and that's where the tree resides.
01:01:28.720Some people have kind of interpreted that the moment he steps over rivers, that means that it has to be in the underworld, and I think that is very detrimental to the Aryan tri-world view of the upper, middle, and lower.
01:01:44.120And some people have taken the liberty to cram their own understanding or lack of understanding to create these false sense, but placing the roots at the bottom has detrimental effects when you consider other things like the striker in every Aryan faith not going into the underworld, being uniquely connected to the middle and the upper.
01:02:11.720And also that somehow the gods go down into the underworld, even though Lord Odin is mighty and powerful for doing so, and is so weakened by the death of Baldr that he asks for Meili, or a volunteer, and Meili steps forward to do so.
01:02:33.760it would immediately make all of that, uh, tension irrelevant. And I don't think that's
01:02:41.480the case at all. So, um, oh, excuse me, uh, Vey, Svin, and Fyovnuma, um, the, uh, peoples,
01:02:56.860uh, trying to see, no, they don't have a very good, uh, translator here at the bottom.
01:03:03.100um i and i just don't like jumping from page to page to page um but i also you know a lot of it
01:03:09.680i don't have committed to memory it's i think it's everyone um that's a realization and an honest
01:03:17.360truth at the same time i'm very very hesitant to say definitively because interpretations and
01:03:26.140A lot of times they leave out poetic sense. So when I do want to translate, I want to make sure I'm translating correctly and don't just write it off as a sacred river.
01:03:38.160of the size of Valhalla or Valhall then said Gangleri these are marvelous tidings which thou
01:03:49.100now tell us a wondrous great house Valhall must be it must often be exceeding exceedingly crowded
01:03:58.800before the doors. Then Hauer says, why dost thou not ask how many doors there are in the hall,
01:04:08.940or how great? If thou hearest that told, then thou wilt say that it is a strange indeed if
01:04:16.540whosoever will may not go in and out or in, but it may be said truly that it is no more crowded
01:04:27.240to find a place therein than to enter into it. Here thou mayest read Grimnismal. And I like that
01:04:37.260kind of introduction. You may read it here in the section in Grimnismal. And Grimnismal is Lord
01:04:45.340Odin, who is held captive by a king, and he is slowly letting the king know how
01:04:54.720bad of a situation he's in um and while doing so uh teaching in lore he says 500 doors and 40 more
01:05:08.220so I deem stand in Valhall 800 champions go out each door when they fare to fight the wolf
01:05:19.080some folks try to kind of take a I don't know a biblical sense where they can mathematically
01:05:28.200figure out that there's a cap but I have always viewed this as 800 wide so the the width of the
01:05:39.540door or that it could let pass 800 with that with ease I don't think it's good for us to
01:05:47.220again, try to jam the gods into a box. But it's, again, the poetic meaning is the audience,
01:05:58.460the warriors listening, it's just so beyond conceptualization that it's just 800 men
01:06:10.560could pass through the door um so uh well i'd like to um i want to get to some questions here
01:06:22.740but i do want to finish this next section before we get to that um also i'd like to make note uh
01:06:30.820joshua in indiana donated 30 towards the cigarhane pavilion thank you joshua and isaac in
01:06:38.680sorry, Missouri donated $50 towards the Baldur's Hoffs people saying,
01:06:50.940had a great time during Summer Mall at Baldur's Hoff. Thanks to leadership and all the people
01:06:57.100there. Hail the ISEER. Thank you for that, Isaac. We appreciate you guys. And got a few0.65
01:07:06.160A few questions stacking up that we can go ahead and get here in a few minutes.
01:07:10.840But Svahn, if you would tell us about the amusements of the Einherjar.
01:09:20.620Haurbrock of the hawks and of hounds, Garmer.
01:09:27.200And this kind of also settles a little bit of a debate
01:09:29.640in where I've seen people argue whether or not Garmer is seen as a hound or a wolf.
01:09:36.180And I think it is important to understand the reasoning between a wolf and a hound. The hound of hell, or the hellhound, is kept in lock with service, duty, yet Lord Odin is able to bring to heel ones that are seen as being incapable of doing so.
01:11:14.440as far as concepts the afterlife i talked before about how our
01:11:20.280we want to go we want to continue our individual existence we want to continue life i think
01:11:30.700we use the the term afterlife has been used so often that i don't think we think about it or
01:11:39.320think about the implications of it people like oh dead people go somewhere when they're when they
01:11:45.040die yeah but what do they do there and i think the idea that there are struggles to be done there are
01:11:52.640things to accomplish and do after this life is a very important one and one that others don't
01:12:00.800think about in the same way sometimes so we very much believe that there is life
01:12:06.400beyond the veil and we don't know what all that looks like but here in the hall of odin
01:12:12.320And these heroes that are chosen to ascend there, they go out and they train and they practice and they fight and they celebrate.
01:12:25.140But the idea that there's still struggle and things to do and things to be done beyond the veil is one that I don't think people often conceive of.
01:12:37.180So Caleb asks, can Ausatruar be Freemasons?
01:12:47.320I know from the Freemason perspective. I am not a Freemason, so anybody that wants to try to spurg out about that.
01:12:56.320However, I have met them and I am interested in the inner workings, apparently in modern messianic traditions, specifically in the Prince Hall variation versus the Scottish Rite, which I don't have any experience with interacting and talking,
01:13:16.920is that as long as the member believes in a higher power
01:13:27.400and understands that the referencing of many of the foundational members of the Masons,
01:13:31.600even though I think they've greatly twisted over the centuries,
01:13:38.560perhaps from outer infiltration, considering power levels and things,
01:13:44.920is that they would refer to the divine in an architectural way.
01:13:52.260And that makes perfect sense considering the framework of Masons.
01:13:56.880But yet they, one of the things that they were accused of was their
01:14:09.260Whereas many people were saying, no, if you're not saying Yahweh or Yehovah or even the German word God, you're going against things.
01:14:21.360And they seem to refer in different ways. George Washington even called divinity the grand providence, the will of all things happening.
01:14:36.860And I like to consider that is that the will of all things happening exudes from something, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a singular force via Yahweh, God of the Israelites.
01:14:52.640So, from their side, you can be. However, I think that a lot of Ausatruer are a little hesitant in that sense, for whatever reasons, past, history. And there also seems to be a sense that there's a cap.
01:15:11.860There are lower members who try to help out their community and do good things and make themselves moral men.
01:15:21.140And for a lot of folks that perhaps are mistrusting of the Christian churches or what have you, they find some guidance there, but beyond and in the upper echelons.
01:15:33.580You know, but my brother was completely funded towards his health with the Shriners burn unit up in Boston.
01:15:46.080So I take that as, you know, there is actions and then there is accusations, and I think some of them are valid, but it is, I think it's enough that most of our folk don't always lean towards that.
01:16:03.640But I think I have met some Ausatruir in our church who are members in good standing.0.95
01:23:05.100by reading and digesting the guilt beginning i think one is equipped to understand what they're
01:23:20.580doing who the gods and the goddesses are what the basics of also true faith is
01:23:32.500excuse me pleasure so that especially i don't know so that they are secure and oriented in it
01:23:44.400if it's something that they you know are old hat at or so they are familiar and they feel
01:23:51.780confident engaging in worship and engaging in house of truth if they're new to it or maybe
01:23:58.120they haven't gone to a moat or a bloat or assembled before so they can feel confident
01:24:07.160knowing what's what who's who and how are the very basic structure of of our faith
01:24:17.640um austin asks i suppose says at first greetings gentlemen uh hope your evening thus far is going
01:24:26.360well wondering if you have any thoughts on the olympians in greek lore they seem to be uh petty
01:24:33.320and spiteful especially when you compare them to the isere why would these two branches of arian
01:24:39.240pantheons differ in this regard thank you for all you do it's fun i know you have thought yeah um
01:24:48.920Um, well, one, I think that it is worth noting that much of the stories of the holy gods
01:24:58.000can indicate many things, keep many things. It's like a twined rope. Um, at the wedding this
01:25:05.880weekend, we placed the hammer of Thor on the bride's lap, and we get this from when, uh,0.74
01:25:14.580Thor's hammer is stolen, but it doesn't make a lot of sense for the Jotnar to do this,
01:25:21.200since it's always kind of placed that Lord Thor is the enemy of the Jotnar. But what it's really
01:25:28.020doing is grounding the story in tradition amongst the folk. And so you find a lot of that, but it
01:25:36.480even extends to attitude. It extends to the conceptualization of femininity, masculinity,
01:25:43.620And I think that the Mediterranean, the tomato Europe, as I like to joke, their conceptualization of divinity and oftentimes reflecting their society, especially since they did build around metropolises, has a lot of that.
01:26:05.340But also bear in mind, on top of this, most of the stories that we know survives from a time when the sophists were pushing for theatrical enactment.
01:26:17.840It wasn't just a celebration of the gods. No, this was the sophists were paying for playwrights and poets to do things, but they had a specific purpose was that they were slowly starting to erode the religious structure in Greece.
01:26:36.180And even in Rome, some of them were neutral. I would say that the Stoics were rather neutral, whereas there were others, Cynics and such, that took a great vehemence to the religious order.
01:27:02.540And so they really promoted the survival of these stories to be placed. Now I'm not saying that's the entirety of it, but there is clearly the time when these stories are being presented and written down and played out, the religious structure of the state was not what people might think it is.
01:27:27.560So there is that. However, too, it is that kind of interaction with the divine. And then when the folk interact with the divine, they find points and those points can either be total divine reflection or total human reflection.
01:27:52.700And some of that is to carry on traditions. Some of that is to give perspective. The way that the dichotomy of the family that plays out in some of the Greco-Roman myths is very different from the Germanic myths.
01:28:07.560And I had spoken about the difference between, say, like a hag, a hag in Mediterranean societies, you know, a woman who perhaps has no property, no descendants or all of her descendants died and she is past her childbearing age.
01:28:26.160So, with the abundance of food and wine there, there was very little value and some of them were pushed to the edges of society. Whereas in Germanic culture, because there isn't just readily available people going out and living on their own very often, elderly women were seen as mothers, but just mothers of the children in a broad sense.0.74
01:28:53.060So you find they are incorporated in the societal levels a lot more. And the auguries and their wisdom and things are held in high regard. So you can see little things that are different.
01:29:08.940Another great point is that Lord Heimdallr is the one who brings the runes to the folk. He elevates the folk, and he's not punished for it. He is exalted. He is the connection point between the upper realm and the middle realm, not only in Bivrost, but in deed.
01:29:33.140And when he's invited into the home of great-grandmother and great-grandfather or grandfather and grandmother or father and mother, it's these generational points, he makes them better.
01:29:46.100And that, I don't think, is somehow stepping on Lord Odin's toes.
01:29:51.040He does not, in the stories, present as to be, nobody can touch them but me. This is a forest and the tree kind of strength. And that, I think, reflects from society.
01:30:08.180Weather and war and all of these things create a different outlook.
01:30:14.380Even Tacitus, when he went up into Germania, he noticed that there was a different mindset.
01:30:22.860So naturally, the interactions that happen between the gods, and I'm not saying they don't happen.
01:30:30.280What I'm saying is that the interaction between two divine beings, perhaps springing forth spiritual energy in the form of a new divine being, is always coded in an understanding of marriage or courtship or union.
01:30:52.860And it's done in a way that our ancestors would understand. The idea that Holy Freyr had to send an emissary to woo his wife, it shows the difficult nature of the situation.
01:31:10.720But it's not actual people. It is the ray of light beaming from Holy Freyr, because Skinner, that is his name, is sundering the cold and ungiving earth to make it giving.
01:31:30.000And that's not a process that happens easily.
01:31:33.020So these kind of things, I think, should be considered when you're looking at the overall.
01:31:40.780And lastly, I would like to point out that some people who perhaps have Mediterranean roots, and they might say, oh, I can't be ousted through because I am of Mediterranean stock, European.
01:31:54.480And I would point out that some of the things that you are perhaps feeling and seeing and noting is because you did grow up in the framework of a Germanic society. You speak a Germanic language that is highly hybridized, but it is not, not Germanic.
01:32:14.860And so I think our culture also reflects that even unto today. So when I give that cautionary
01:32:22.620sense that you should consider these things, it's not saying that either the present moment is wrong
01:32:29.700and that we should return to something. We should incline ourselves to read and understand the
01:32:34.940wisdom of our ancestors, but also realize that we face problems that they did not. And we have
01:32:40.520solutions that they never thought of because they didn't face those problems um it's better to keep
01:32:46.920kind of a uh flexible uh view of these things yeah i think there's a number of things at play um
01:32:59.880we do kind of go from the back uh i guess from spawn's most recent comment and go back a little
01:33:10.600bit if you this is kind of baked into the question but these different lenses to arian divinity
01:38:11.580whatever something involving mashed potatoes and gravy is always a big part of it i'd say chicken
01:38:28.020fried steak and mashed potatoes and gravy probably get me there on a comfort food thing really good
01:38:33.680meatloaf also with mashed potatoes and gravy it'll get me there i was literally going to say chicken
01:38:39.420or chicken fried steak and gravy so i guess that's a way to do it i think realistically
01:38:46.060if i'm trying to like eat my feelings i don't go to the savory i go to the sweet and i'll
01:38:53.180kill a half gallon ice cream mint chocolate chip that's the way to go um if i'm feeling sick
01:39:00.300it my cure is an extra large um chicken bacon ranch pizza from domino's whoa what you gotta
01:39:12.840go hard blasting it with the carbs and the fats and it will it'll cure you um
01:39:19.980trust me it's the thing i i uh speaking in that context like i love i'm not a big sweets guy but
01:39:29.300do love ice cream with black coffee kind of eat the ice cream and sip the black coffee and it
01:39:35.060mixes i think i got that for my father and for sickness yeah i'm a consomme or broth kind of
01:39:42.180just so i appreciate the icelanders for their language not for their culinary choices i think
01:39:50.420some kind of lunacy i also like you don't like the delicious sweet energy drinks you only like
01:39:58.020the miami colo like you like diet i love that's doing it wrong um there has to be a light to dark
01:40:12.420uh you know here's the thing and i'm going to speak first on it because i want to make sure
01:40:16.580some stuff's not misunderstood um speck in your spawn can you speak on the concept of the iron
01:40:24.980here you are being chosen and and the prefix vowel meaning chosen and not slain so it it does
01:40:35.060absolutely mean slang valor means that specifically like battlefield dead it means slain in that a lot
01:40:46.820vow which obviously they share a linguistic connection does one of the meanings of vow is
01:40:54.820chosen but i want to make sure none of us are saying the astro focus assembly is not saying
01:41:01.940that it does not mean slang it does it has it may have additional implications
01:41:09.220it's fine if you would like to clarify yeah no i think so you know i could yammer on about
01:41:15.060lore details but i think you cut right into the bone of it it's not that we're saying one can
01:41:21.460is not and the other is and a lot of people kind of go that direction no it is plus we're also going
01:41:28.500to see it in a chapter coming up here and i wanted to talk about that when we got there but the usage
01:41:35.620and understanding of words um much like the younger futhark every rune in the scandinavian uh futharks
01:41:44.740that were used had multiple meanings and this is a concept amongst the nordic culture
01:41:52.500that is understood it's not understood by us a lot of the time um because we want those
01:41:58.980classifications we want those words brought in but oftentimes words had multiple meanings
01:42:04.820i knew about this uh i kind of stumbled on this concept is that i have uh an aunt and her name
01:42:12.580is Vallabyark. And so it's not war slain birch tree. It's the chosen tree, the special tree,
01:42:24.120the kind of, as she described it, the lone tree on a hill. It's elevated and it's by itself.
01:42:31.560So therefore, it's special. It's noteworthy. And so there are other meanings that can be attached.
01:42:41.300and when someone just gives singular translations sometimes, they may be just selling it a little
01:42:47.660short. Obviously, we spoke about the psychopomp, and we talked about how Lord Tyr is the lord of
01:42:55.760victory and of the temples, but in a Midgarther-ordered sense and driving towards order,
01:43:04.780And I'm not saying that Lord Odin isn't, but there is a significance that's placed in Lord Odin religiously that is different than Mortir, and that is the ferrying of the soul.
01:43:20.520And it's done through agency of the Valkyrie.
01:43:27.220The Valkyrie are extensions of Lord Odin, and he initiates this transcendence.
01:43:35.120But that's why our church believes in post-death, going into the land of the dead, passing through the veil, and then being elevated by deeds.
01:43:53.220this has two functions. One is that it allows you to incorporate and to gain an understanding
01:44:01.720from your ancestors, to connect with them one last time, and then your deeds, the words of your
01:44:07.320deeds. And also, too, ultimately, it is already ordained. It is just the process is happening,
01:44:13.980and then you are ascended up. And we see very little of this because I think by this time,
01:44:21.440the conceptualization from Snorri and Saimondur and all the other sages that were working on this
01:44:28.520was they were really hitting the difference between the current time, where, again, the
01:44:36.900current time was you hold to the covenant and you keep your promise and your individual soul
01:44:45.080is then saved and you don't get to go into Gehenna, the valley of fire in Israel.
01:44:52.820I think they were fascinated by the great veracity of the soul being ascended through battle.
01:45:03.880And there's, it's just slight nuances like that, that end up overshadowing the other meanings of
01:45:09.780the name vowel chosen exceptional singled out which could still very much have connotation to
01:45:18.340battle that doesn't lose that but it being there it's worth noting that it isn't always just
01:45:28.920i stepped onto a battlefield uh i'm going to valhalla it's there's a point and to go even
01:45:37.260further there is the act of choosing the verb point of vallur or val which lord odin is the
01:45:47.100father so he is the choosing father this again is still the same point the valkyr the carriers of
01:45:57.720the sling the carriers of the chosen there is a willful element that he is the psychopomp of the
01:46:04.960soul, bringing ones that he has chosen into ascendancy. So nowhere along the chain doesn't
01:46:13.260deviate either. It's just worth noting, I think that there was just a misinterpretation that it
01:46:19.480was only those who died in battle. And I think it's worth getting away from that. But at the
01:46:27.840same time, people who hear that are like, so you, you don't believe in that at all. And it has to
01:46:33.940be so one-sided that they can't conceptualize this. No, we mean all of that. Plus, perhaps
01:46:42.880more, an understanding that the gods have that we don't. Who knows?
01:46:54.380All right. Are there interest payments on the Freishoff mortgage?
01:47:03.940yes um yeah we took out a loan from a member of a very significant amount and we
01:47:17.460um i'd have to check for the specifics but whatever the at the time the
01:47:24.660i don't know standard or competitive interest rate was um we are way ahead on that so we're
01:47:34.500avoiding quite a bit of interest by paying off as fast as we are but yes there are interest payments
01:47:40.260being made um so the next one i read that olden should be approached sparingly is there any truth
01:47:52.100to that spawn um absolutely that there is truth to that um i think there could be some logical
01:48:04.860earthly explanations as about how divinity um interacted in the lives of our ancestors
01:48:11.960throughout whether it's um you know the stone age the bronze age etc um there is always a sense of
01:48:22.360approaching all of the gods uh however the friendliness the the communion between lord
01:48:32.220thor and the folk is clearly much more jovial uh i think this has a couple of things to do with
01:48:38.600death um and the mystery that is um again being able to choose the slain to um you are gaining
01:48:48.400victory after victory after victory and then axe to the head um it's because lord odin has
01:48:58.660decreed thus so you can't hold to some preconceived notion that you know like buddy christ you know
01:49:10.840it's like buddy uh ovin and that somehow this may uh spare you from the machinations of the one who
01:49:20.360sees everything from all angles um so i think it's speaking predominantly more about not falling into
01:49:30.120the falsehood of thinking that there's some way you can alleviate yourself from the reality of
01:49:40.520all of the weird or or law or fate being woven you can have a deep and uh all residing love or
01:49:51.240respect for lord odin but never think that somehow this makes you uh beyond reproach in everything
01:50:03.460that's going on. So the wariness is that element of, um, having great love for Lord Oven, but
01:50:12.000knowing that your breath is not promised and that the guidance and the weaving of everything going
01:50:20.140on can sever you from Midgard. And so it is better to focus on your deeds as proof of what you're
01:50:30.040doing and, uh, or recovering from bad deeds, um, is noted. It's, it's important. It's not that you
01:50:41.280spiral out on something or fail on something. And now you're doomed forever. What it is is that you
01:50:49.260have to turn things around despite doom, which is what the holy gods are doing with Ragnarok
01:50:58.180looming on the horizon, no matter what it is. So there is a sense of that. And I think that
01:51:07.440there's perhaps more friendlier relationships that are spoken of that our ancestors had
01:51:14.120with certain ous and certain ous in you. But like a king, there is never a sense at a point
01:51:24.420where you get so loose that you can just rib jab and joke there's always a hanging
01:51:33.080air of respect there's something that should stop you from treating lord odin as if he was
01:51:44.360your buddy or something that you can't do that and the moment you do that it really
01:51:52.820gives a telltale sign as to where you're at. And you can come back, you can recalibrate, but I'm a
01:51:59.900big kind of promoter of hierarchy. And I know where I stand. I could elevate myself amongst my
01:52:12.560folk, but I know where I stand. And I think that everywhere that there is points of respect and
01:52:21.760and duty and honor and things that are gained,
01:52:24.900it is very important that you give those honors.
01:52:30.780And it's, I think people's ego stands in the way.
01:55:15.960never ever ever forget that our gods are gods you can have
01:55:23.560love for them you can have familiarity with them in the sense that you have built a relationship
01:55:33.320over time but there's never equality there's never casualness you are always interacting with or
01:55:48.120seeking to interact with gods and that is very important that they're always approached with the
01:55:56.200respect and the dignity due to gods in the best way that you understand that um
01:56:07.800just because you talk at odin doesn't mean he is listening to you or cares he may he may not
01:56:18.120i think that it is more foolish than it is scary or whatever else to be overly approaching in about
01:56:29.480meaningless things and the other thing
01:56:33.400it lessens the importance of when you do it if you're just so casual with it that
01:56:39.000it's a constant barrage of stuff so i would never want any of our folk that seek sincere relationship
01:56:52.120with the gods to feel held back from doing that or to feel that there is a barrier between them
01:57:00.520attempting to reach out and honor their gods or to give prayer to their gods
01:57:07.180but you never want to do that casually and without the dignity that's required of it
01:57:14.960um also jeffrey in texas donated ten dollars towards the uh sigerheim pavilion and ten
01:57:24.900dollars towards paying off raise funds so thank you for that jeffrey we appreciate it
01:57:29.180All right, well, we have a little bit more, so let's do, let's talk about number 42.
01:57:52.560the Aesir broke their oath to the fortification builder. Svan, would you like to take us through
01:58:01.340that? Absolutely. One of the things is that, and I don't know where this comes from, but there are
01:58:08.800folk in Ausatru who, again, approaching Lord Odin with weariness, and there is this sense,
01:58:16.280um especially with uh the universalists or those who uh try to honor the kinslayer oh well um
01:58:27.160lord odin broke his oaths as well so in this is a prime example in the the old norse it's
01:58:39.000It's Aesir, Ruvur, Eida, Sina, Au, Björkermithunum.
01:58:47.900The Björkermithunum is the stone mountain smith kind of lending more towards his yachting side that is hidden.
01:59:04.100And the word rufu, rufu and rivia has many, many meanings to tear apart, to break down, or to poke a hole.
01:59:19.420So I think that what this is really referring to is finding a loophole in our terms is kind of the equivalency.
01:59:31.820Finding a weak spot that punches through, and it's clear that it's the trickery of the mason.
01:59:40.820The mason does not present himself correctly, nor does he present his horse.
01:59:48.180So the terms of the oath are laid out without full understanding.
01:59:56.520Now, again, the stories and the reflection of these things versus the gods, I think, as metaphysical cosmic beings is where we find kind of the separation here.
02:00:16.420There is an injecting force that is proclaiming to be able to guard the gods after their great war with the gods of the earth and of water and natural law.
02:00:32.860And so there is a need, and that need brings forth this injecting power, and that injecting power has a price.
02:00:41.700and there is much to be learned from this but the details between this pad out in concepts
02:00:50.200that our ancestors would be very familiar with the idea of someone coming to work for you and
02:00:57.060make an agreement and then they turn that agreement because of whatever reasons it's it's a
02:01:02.780it's a very kind of visceral subject. And this is how it plays out. But to be fair,
02:01:14.060I think that there are often too many folk who turn on the gods and say that the gods did this
02:01:21.500and the gods did that without fully considering translation and perspective. It was seen to them
02:01:30.900that there was something amiss that was not out in the open is that not trickery is that not
02:01:39.080poking a hole in the oath or or utilizing some sort of uh cheat um and so you could look at this
02:01:47.900but really what it tells me is that there's a person that's just desperately trying to turn
02:01:54.900the aha um you know it's it's going against the establishment so i i see that all too often so the
02:02:09.620poke a hole or find a loophole or broke their oath to the fortification builder
02:02:16.420Then said Gangliri, Who owns that horse, Sleipnir? Or what is to be said of him?
02:02:27.280Haur answered, Thou hast no knowledge of Sleipnir's points, and thou knowest not the circumstances of his begetting?
02:02:34.580But it will seem to thee worth the telling.
02:02:37.640It was early in the first days of the gods' dwelling here when the gods had established the Midgard and made Valhall.
02:02:49.240There came at a time a certain right, a craftsman like, you know, Wainwright, Cartwright, a guild man.
02:03:04.300So there came a certain rite, and he offered to build them a citadel in three seasons, so good that it should be staunch and proof against the hill giants and the rhyme giants.
02:03:22.980We spoke about that too. The mountain, they use the word mountain. Here the translation is hill. And then grime or ice giants. Though they should come in over Midgard. That's another point. Here our ancestors, the gods are in the center upon the mountain.
02:03:42.140When they come in to attack the heavenly realm, they're not climbing up the floating tree to get to the Christmas bulb on the tree that is the heavenly realm.
02:03:56.280we see orientation here is they cross over the middle world to get to the center and upwards
02:04:04.760so that they can try to tear down the elevated, the sanctified, the higher. So
02:04:13.460they should come in over Midgard. But he demanded as wages that he should have0.90
02:04:21.220for his work, the possession of Freyja, and would fain have both the sun and the moon.
02:04:31.480Again, this is very interesting, the usage of the sun and the moon and not Sol and Mauni,
02:04:38.560because they are presiders over the primordial spark of Muspelheim, the shard of Nifelheim.
02:04:47.480But again, knowing that these things were so important for the gods and for the folk to take them would be catastrophic.
02:05:00.520Obviously, we know scientifically it would be catastrophic, but mythically, it would be to cast everything into darkness.0.99
02:05:09.680A Jotun is pretending to be a simple stonesmith, and his end result is to steal the beauty and the passion of the gods and to leave everything in darkness.0.99
02:05:30.360So, then the Isir held Parley and took counsel together, and a bargain was made with the right.1.00
02:05:39.680that he should have that which he demanded0.92
02:05:43.520if he should succeed in completing the citadel in one winter.
02:05:57.540and he was to receive help from no man in his work.
02:06:01.920When they told him of these conditions,
02:06:04.300he asked that they would give him leave
02:06:06.680to get help from his stallion, which was called Svadilfari, and Loki advised it so that the
02:06:22.680rites petition would be granted that he could bring his horse in. He set up to work the first
02:06:31.020day of winter to make the citadel, and by night he hauled stones with the stallion's aid, and it
02:06:37.560seemed very marvelous to the Iser what great rocks this horse could draw. For the horse did more
02:06:45.400rough work by half than did by the right. But there were strong witnesses to their bargain,
02:06:52.840and many oaths, since it seemed unsafe to the giant to be amongst the Iser without truce.0.99
02:07:01.020That's another point. It is referred in the story that he is in disguise, where here is presented by his true nature.
02:07:11.740And that could create some confusion, but it is very much so that he is not simply a Jotun, but kind of guised in a softer sense.
02:07:25.260And just as he would be weary amongst the gods, so too are the gods weary of him. So allowing him to do it at all, he's relenting some of his identities, hiding it, he's obscuring it.
02:07:42.240So, obviously, he has a strong weariness since it seemed unsafe to the giant to be amongst the Isir without truce if Thor should come home.0.66
02:07:57.440And this is another part of the story that Lord Thor is not home at the time. That's why Lord Thor has haiti, like ein rieder, or hlo rieder, meaning rider, lone or singular rider, or loud rider.0.85
02:08:16.720But it is the idea of the going down to the earth, riding the edges of Midgard, keeping things in balance.
02:24:14.500i uh i would suspect that the possibility is
02:24:25.700that he said, I will one day see you again.
02:24:33.500And there's a reasoning for that, but this goes back into understanding roles.
02:24:42.360The God of dynamicism, sitting in the throne of the dynamic in the tripartite,
02:24:49.800being a tripartite in and of himself, and that I am a believer that Vodhin, as it is said, he was once called Vodhin, is now called Odhin,
02:25:02.400Vili, Vey, are the same as Odin, Hjönur, and Lóður.
02:25:11.920I do not, much like we know Yggdrasil as the forefront,
02:25:18.180but that Lajarun is another name for Yggdrasil.
02:25:24.300And it is worth noting then that if this is the case and that Lord Odin, a piece of himself, is lost during Ragnarok, but a piece of him remains, that is the will that triumphs through the battle,
02:25:47.880But then becomes twice blind, losing the full other pieces, and he takes up the lots and reads the runes for the gods beyond Ragnarok.
02:26:08.320and i think through this there is this sense of a great loss but then there is also that which
02:26:20.240must be lost for balder to return is this i'm not saying this is legitimate in any way this is my
02:26:29.900in belief and interpretation of that situation. Outside of that, it is obviously a poetic
02:26:40.120kind of gotcha throughout all of the stories because it's the mystery that no one knows,
02:26:48.200not any of the Jotnar, not any of the gods, but stepping back and observing, I tried to see
02:26:59.000uh the panoramic and um that is my belief is that and it's ironic again since johnner becomes to be
02:27:08.280blindy um i shall see you again but yet still he does not in a poetic sense of irony
02:27:24.460I guess we were talking about personal gnosis, but I mean, this is just that observation and that interconnectivity as to why the Valknaut is a symbol of Lord Odin.
02:27:40.020And there are three conjoining pieces and that there is this essence.
02:27:46.500And again, to consider when the holy gods, Lord Odin, if you take three as one as aspects or I guess projections of the centerpiece and look at the production of the divinity.
02:28:10.020where um lord odin or just say like in the tripartite of himself odin and yard there is
02:28:21.220the furious thor but the vey the temple the the holy place and freak balder and then the will and
02:28:33.380And the correction of fate or divine setting, it kind of goes into that.
02:28:47.920But I'm not saying that this is, I'm trying not to overstep myself because there is a sense that needs to be investigated in it.
02:29:09.420And I am also when I say of my belief, I am very open to the understandings and the teachings numerous times where I have discussed things.
02:29:22.740And when we came out on the other side, I had a new understanding.
02:29:27.840But I will say I did pray to Lord Odin about this because it troubled me if I was kind of going astray or and the auguries that I did receive were telling me.
02:29:44.260But at the same time, the edicts of the church and my personal kind of observations and beliefs are not one in the same.
02:29:56.780but I am to align myself to the sacred center that is my church.
02:30:01.660But as of right now, this is how I interpret much of this.
02:30:09.160So, I think the thought process and the pondering the possibilities
02:30:22.840or what it might have been or what it might have meant.
02:30:27.820I think those are all valuable exercises.
02:30:30.940I think there's a lot of elements of our lore.
02:30:33.380I know I mention this a lot with the runes.
02:30:41.340There is a difference between like a trivia question
02:30:45.680where there's a right and a wrong answer
02:30:47.500and some of these things that help us contemplate existence
02:30:51.980in a layered and advanced way so short answer is like what did he say that's unknowable and i think
02:31:01.620that's one of the elements in our lore because odin busts that out at some point because he's
02:31:07.920the only one him involved and balder are the only ones that know um i think it's one of those things
02:31:16.460that literally could be a kenning for something that is unknown um but that said the act of it
02:31:25.900i think is special the transformative and transcendent act of sending a message
02:31:36.300beyond the veil to return at a different time or to be united with at a different time
02:31:50.220um also with with the armoring droutner um the
02:31:57.180and i don't know i've been thinking while swan was answering his
02:32:04.620of how to phrase it in a way that makes sense but there is a fundamental
02:32:13.820transmission of things that occur during bloat and during funerary rites
02:32:23.820that send messages and things beyond the veil in a really specific way one of the reasons that
02:32:36.000cremation is a preferred method is that it transmits things instantly or relatively
02:32:48.120instantly from the world living to the world beyond the veil the imagery of the fire and
02:33:00.420you know making your offerings into the fire of doing the funeral pyre that being that life force
02:33:14.720that intention all of that stuff is transmitted at that point is consumed by the flames goes up
02:33:24.240in flame and smoke and vapor up to the heavens up beyond the veil um and that transmission point
02:33:34.080i think is really thematic to a lot of the things that we do and a lot of the ways we make offerings
02:33:41.360in a lot of the ways we do various things in our our loats to where we put things into the fire we
02:33:50.240we burn things we burn the ship we burn uh the sun wheel we burn different things sending our
02:33:58.720offering up um up to the land beyond the veil be it with the ancestors be it to the gods themselves
02:34:08.320there's something in the the animal sacrifice of imbuing a living thing with those messages with
02:34:18.560the the worship you have for those beyond the veil and then sending that with that life force
02:34:26.240to the other side of that veil and there's something here profound about sending a message
02:34:32.640from the land of the living into the land of the dead and you know
02:34:40.720the eventual point of reunion where that you know follow-up conversation occurs
02:36:36.780I wanted to say, there was a comment, you know, read the Halvamal, we are allowed to lie to enemies if we think there might be good gotten from them.
02:36:47.440And I wanted to point out some things there.
02:36:50.940In the Halvamal, there are three stanzas that really kind of encapsulate what was being said there.
02:36:59.600But there is a key factor. It's not the label of enemy that allows to give falsehoods. It is in 42, to his friend a man should be and gifts with gift requite.
02:37:20.960So those who are in sharing and having the gift cycle, laughter with laughter men should receive, but leasing with lying.
02:37:45.220Another important one, again, these are the 42, 43, and 44.
02:37:50.96043 is, to his friend a man should be, to him and to his friend, but of his foe no man shall be a friend to.
02:38:01.980And that is really important about making the clarity that you're not a friend of your friend's enemy.
02:38:11.920That relinquishes what it means to be a friend to you.
02:38:17.080And so there is a clear standing of when someone initiates the fallacy of the oath by lying, you can meet that in kind, but it is not based solely on a definition.
02:38:34.280um because anyone then could could define and it and it's it kind of is reminiscent of um some
02:38:44.560uh like rabbinical texts that i've heard about where they you know it's okay to do that or even
02:38:50.420in islamic texts where it's okay to do that um because they're not us um i think still the
02:38:56.900nobility of going forward even with people who aren't us and being noble in character is very
02:39:04.960important but the moment that there is a level of where they diminish their side there is no
02:39:12.340requirement for the noble soul to just bear that no you then okay the game has now shifted
02:39:29.640the explanation of this particular story
02:39:32.700in a way that I didn't, that works well.
02:39:44.200Trickery sucks and isn't noble and awesome.0.90
02:39:48.340And I think that's why they talk. There's like the big oath breaking of not doing the thing or like, ah, let's just screw it and cheat the guy.0.99
02:40:01.480But they still talk about it like oath breaking because they're having to resort to being shifty.
02:40:09.080They do fulfill the things. They just have to resort to underhanded trickery.
02:40:13.680and it is predicated by this guy disguising himself and disguising his identity as we know
02:40:20.300in the other source material but that's a really important distinction that I think it's easy to
02:40:28.700miss and I'm glad you pointed out I saw that comment too doesn't say you just get to lie to
02:40:34.100enemies you can repay lies with lies but that's them initiating the ignoble behavior and you
02:40:44.900responding in kind it's not well if it furthers whatever you know you can lie to people who aren't0.93
02:40:54.180islamic or you can lie to you know goyim because it doesn't count or whatever it's not the same0.83
02:41:02.260we do see it used and we recognize the stench of it when we see it that that's ignoble and we don't1.00
02:41:10.820like that so yes tactically if you're you know you don't have to fight the game with one hand
02:41:18.500tied behind your back when someone else is you know using deception with you you can use it back
02:41:26.260but that's they're the they're the bad guy for initiating don't be that guy
02:57:48.300And the gods have already given in the sense of their breath and of their desire to defend
02:57:54.720that which they have shaped, they have sacrificed, we have sacrificed. So that would lend to believe
02:58:01.840that once we pass through the veil, there is a willful indication that we can sacrifice and
02:58:09.180build relationship by giving to the upper world, perhaps for the benefit of the middle world,
02:58:16.140but it would require a price. And that price might be the memory. That price might be the luck.0.67
02:58:24.720of the individual beyond the veil to affect the descendancy in Midgard. And there goes the
02:58:34.380exchange, because what makes the value of gifting is the sacrifice of exchange.
02:58:43.680And I think that it's not really so much a problem on other people. I don't think it's a bad thing.
02:58:48.700I just think that, like Azir Gauthier said, they're just looking at it very flatly.
02:58:53.720And if we look at the cult of ancestor worship, and if we look at the processes right out the gate, losing the body, there's a lot going on right there that immediately says that we're not, it's not an absolute no.
02:59:13.960The gods can do what they will, but it doesn't ever, outside of extraordinary circumstances, lend to the idea that somehow it's going to be different or there's a commonality there.
02:59:31.440We can clearly see the moment that the body is taken out of the soul complex, there are fragmentations and that the soul is the core.
02:59:41.180We teach a lot about how the thought and memory fall into the soul like a goblet.
02:59:53.200There is the hamina, which is the stem, the philkia, which is its connection, kind of the motivation of the moving spirit, much very similar to the body in Midgard.
03:00:06.760um but all of the other things kind of fall into it and that's carried on and if some of it is
03:00:13.800poured out into vergalnor the well in the lower world and the root takes it up and the gods
03:00:22.180allocate it back in the realm of order to do things in midgard that is a cycle there is a
03:00:29.200reincarnating of things but it's not a totality or perhaps the perception of um you're not gonna
03:00:38.240die and just simply wake up um as uh i don't know an indian and uh or or um you know
03:00:51.520suddenly you're a swede and your ancestors are praying to you or you're sorry your uh descendants0.96
03:00:58.400are praying to you and you're not there you're um you know busy making meatballs in sweden um
03:01:05.200that just doesn't add out and i think that's what else here is really pointing out is
03:01:12.080stepping back taking the scope and realizing it just doesn't make a lot of sense but yet we see
03:01:18.800other things that make perfect sense and that is the parceling and of course we can't say the
03:01:25.120totality of what the gods can do and can't do so there is always the caveat of that layered on top
03:01:32.560and that's kind of going to be the answer and i think that's why asher was talking about
03:01:37.280we get this question a lot and it's never easy or one for one or yes you're going to be completely
03:01:44.800and wholly born in the bloodlines of your descendancy and if you don't have children you're
03:01:48.400doomed that might sound cool but it's really not and it's not how complex the ecosystem of the soul
03:02:01.200that our ancestors passed the lore down that's not the way even the way they passed it down
03:02:07.520is being explained all right guys well it's been a good show tonight we've covered a lot more ground
03:02:15.360than we have at least last week and probably a couple of weeks before or i guess two weeks ago
03:02:21.600so we're going through this in chunks but it's uh sparks meaningful conversation that i think
03:02:26.320is really important um thank you guys for being here nothing lost over in the chat i'm glad that
03:02:32.640you enjoyed my runestone article um thank you for saying so and uh yeah looking forward to uh
03:02:43.040going into the rest or at least the next section of the gilfin getting with spawn here
03:02:50.480um the start of uh start of june but next week we have law speaker alan turnage on to do another
03:02:59.600episode of unfulting with allen so that'll be great if you can make it out to midsummer at
03:03:06.160Odenshoff, you should do that. That would be awesome. Brownsville, California. I would love
03:03:13.600to see you there. If I don't talk to you until then, I will see you guys next week.
03:03:19.680Hale the Aesir, Hale the Folk, Hale the AFA, and remember, victory never sleeps.