Asatru Folk Assembly - 5⧸20⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 202 - Prose Edda： Gylfaginning, Part 9

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00:03:00.000 Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:13.060 I think, you know, I was reading over in the chat room, and I think the idea that we will complete the poem tonight is ambitious.

00:03:21.780 I don't think we will, but we will make more progress than we did two weeks ago.

00:03:27.880 I think that much is certain.

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00:06:05.360 and such there um also had a very successful uh summer mall this last weekend i hope everybody

00:06:15.440 else did as well wherever they found themselves it was nice to get to spend time with some of the

00:06:20.560 folks at york's off i will be out in california this next month in june for the annual midsummer

00:06:29.680 celebration there so celebrate uh mid summer at uh organs off on the 20th weekend of the 20th so

00:06:39.440 it'll be that uh 19 20 and wrapping up the 21st anybody who can do that odin's off is amazing it

00:06:46.800 is our first off it is powerful it is we have had it for 10 years we are will have had it

00:06:59.520 for 11 years this fall so there's a lot of spiritual might put into that place

00:07:06.620 and it's particularly special so i have the opportunity to make it to brownsville california

00:07:12.240 for that we would love to see you there and i'll be out there um

00:07:17.580 other top of the show happens i don't think we really have any this week

00:07:25.100 um thank you for everybody who is joining us in the chat just so everybody knows

00:07:31.620 this is largely question and answer driven that's why last week we uh only got through i think one

00:07:39.180 section of the poem because we had so many amazing questions so feel free to ask questions

00:07:46.140 to take the conversation where you'd like we will take you know some breaks periodically to answer

00:07:52.140 questions but we're going to start off and what i would like to commit to doing tonight

00:07:58.620 is making it through the battle hall section um so that's going to be kind of our

00:08:07.740 where we're getting started uh anybody who would like to follow along we are going through the

00:08:12.780 the poem the gilf beginning and you'll find that at thelispow.org

00:08:22.060 it is in the poetic etta you can read whatever translation you like that shouldn't matter but

00:08:28.860 if you want to read exactly word for word where svan and i are at that's where we are and they

00:08:35.180 put up a link for anybody that needs to follow. With that, Svan, would you like to take us into

00:08:43.820 the text? Absolutely. I also would like to just give a brief congratulations to Annika and Nick

00:08:55.660 gun uh their hospitality that i received is was uh comparative to no one they were amazing so

00:09:07.260 congratulations guys um swan for those who don't know what are you congratulating them for

00:09:14.540 other than being hospitable to you oh for their wedding i'm sorry i thought i said uh for their

00:09:19.980 wedding uh their uh newlyweds and um they flew me um across the country to come out and preside

00:09:29.180 over their wedding in washington state and there was a lot of folk there that were not ausitru

00:09:38.300 and i always find that these are uh auspicious and magical times to introduce a lot of folk

00:09:48.120 to our faith in a non-pressured context, whether that pressure is in their mind.

00:09:55.920 And they had, they witnessed the majesty of the gods synchronized with perfect timing. And I feel

00:10:06.100 that I really helped in creating that bridge, the pontifex, if you will, between the folk and

00:10:15.220 the gods, but really it was the grace of the gods that showed up. And it was far more than I think

00:10:25.780 that they were prepared for. And it led to some really good conversations with some of the folk.

00:10:33.460 I hope at least they've come to our website, runestone.org, to learn more and understand

00:10:42.740 and perhaps destroy some misconceptions but by the time I left I really did feel most everybody

00:10:50.720 there was in a completely different thought as to perhaps what their prejudgments might have had

00:10:58.560 and it was just a wonderful event beautiful the weather was again very sporadic but talking about

00:11:06.540 the weather as if it's just the weather is kind of funny considering what we went through where

00:11:11.960 um uh lord thor showed up and um there was a split in the sky of a cloudy hailing day where we

00:11:24.040 received sun um from sol and it was just for that time it was amazing i can't speak of it enough

00:11:36.080 But I wanted to congratulate them and thank everybody that came out to the wedding.

00:11:43.840 And, you know, if you're not familiar with Ausatru wedding ceremonies, I do believe they're just the perfect mixture of straightforward oath taking and cutting through all the din of, I think, a lot of the showmanship that may come from more modern weddings.

00:12:04.600 And yet, at the same time, it's not all about the rabbi. I've gone to Christian weddings where you hear more about Jesus than you do about what's going on.

00:12:21.180 And I'm just really proud of our faith. I'm very proud of the connectivity and what it does to people who have never witnessed it before. They were awoken to something in their blood that just they couldn't deny.

00:12:42.440 they were extremely happy and they felt like even though they were perhaps strangers

00:12:50.280 in the faith it was so familiar to them it was like a fingerprint that they

00:12:57.960 uh just decided to suddenly kind of like look at and focus on so thank you for sharing that

00:13:05.320 with all of us and thank you for going out there and uh performing your duty in that way it's

00:13:13.000 congratulations to the guns two lovely people i'm very excited for them and the family that

00:13:20.280 they are starting that's awesome them coming together as as man or wife that is something

00:13:25.640 that we're all very excited about anybody doesn't know they are both uh folk builders in the afa

00:13:31.160 and just two two lovely people there in that spokane washington area so um

00:13:40.600 Um, it's interesting when stuff like that happens and it happens not infrequently to

00:13:51.000 where the, the weather or the circumstance will synchronize with what we're doing and

00:13:59.420 comply at the right moments where it's needed to, or, uh, you know, be meaningfully impactful. 0.81

00:14:05.380 And it's, in my experience, weddings and funerals are very special in that Asavatnes are baby namings.

00:14:16.820 Sometimes people have family there that attend those that aren't Ausatru and aren't familiar with what we do. 0.99

00:14:22.880 But weddings and funerals really bring out a mix of people, many of whom may have zero exposure to Ausatru.

00:14:33.100 and you know any ideas they might have about what we do and i don't fault them they come by

00:14:39.500 it naturally i think everybody's curious i know i was very curious before i went to my first event

00:14:45.260 saw my first house of truth ceremony so it's really such a positive thing when family and

00:14:52.700 friends get to see this that we do feel the presence of the gods there hopefully and

00:15:03.100 You know, see that we're sincere people doing something that is meaningful to us and they can really feel it. I've, uh, haven't heard a lot of negative, like it seems resoundingly at all of the, all of the weddings, all of the funerals and the people that I know that have tended to be awesome.

00:15:23.540 they come away with a deep respect and like an appreciation for what they do or for what we do

00:15:33.080 and for what their friend or their loved one is doing. That's really cool. It's an important

00:15:38.700 opportunity and I'm glad this one was successful like the rest. So weddings are often done in

00:15:50.700 in great halls with feasting and celebration. Talking about feasting and celebration,

00:15:57.500 tell us about the Einherjahr in Vapahol. It's fun. Absolutely.

00:16:03.900 And I think there's some things that the audience should consider. One is the detail that is brought

00:16:13.020 about is done because of hall culture um it would be very similar to say ballroom culture

00:16:23.100 that we have today and i most people might not even be familiar with that unless

00:16:27.900 they're into ballroom dancing and or in the military there are many times where a

00:16:34.220 kind of ballroom culture is a set about where tables have meaning and there's

00:16:40.460 There's an itinerary of celebration of certain members being recognized and getting a chance to speak.

00:16:48.940 And then dancing and drinking and things.

00:16:53.000 There's many different little nuanced rules.

00:16:57.100 And that's where this is coming from.

00:16:59.600 It's so important that the details are really, really focused.

00:17:07.620 And so bear that in mind. That's why this is kind of coming in. It may seem kind of encapsulated in one spot, but the idea of the heavenly realm reflecting and or vice versa, it's this exchange between an understanding.

00:17:31.320 There is surely a spiritual and metaphysical explanation, but it also shows us how our ancestors valued these areas and these kind of interactions between, say, warriors in the Mead Hall.

00:17:47.660 And that praise reflects back on the folk as to what is extremely important.

00:17:55.560 I'm not saying that this isn't how it is, but I definitely believe that the sustenance and the exchange is one of a greater spiritual, but yet also simultaneously a reflection of our folk and where we are at living in Midgard.

00:18:18.080 And so you get a kind of peek into that. So 38, of the food of the Einherjar and Odin. So right away, it's interesting. The food of the Einherjar, for those who don't know, the Einherjar are selected souls brought up into the heavenly realm.

00:18:46.080 Access to heaven in our faith is not open to everyone.

00:18:50.880 If it's open to everyone, it's open to no one.

00:18:54.420 But the other point of it is, is that it is about access through proving to the divine of worthiness.

00:19:01.700 That could be in your life, that could be in your praise, and both.

00:19:08.180 but the bridge to heaven is a shimmering bridge whereas the bridge to the to the dead

00:19:16.800 is a wide bridge that's covered so it lasts and what that means is we all must face death

00:19:24.360 but not all of us gain elevation we should strive but

00:19:31.240 that shows a very kind of uh parallel that's i think interesting a side note for people

00:19:40.680 following along i'm here we use terms a lot that i think we just repeat without sometimes

00:19:49.160 understanding what their meaning is and i'll make sure everybody understands um

00:19:53.400 um the hair is the war band iron is a singular the hair yar is a warrior so like the individual

00:20:06.600 warrior um which is linguistically awkward and I think intentionally so for us to consider

00:20:19.600 and it you know it it it it is reminiscent not to be cheesy of the the army's recruiting slogan

00:20:27.920 the army of one thing yeah it is very it literally means army of one and it is a

00:20:35.200 collection of armies of one which you know they could have just said the harry are um

00:20:42.640 um or the herion or whatever to differentiate the numbers there they it is the individual warriors

00:20:54.240 and like it's an awkward phrase and it doesn't match linguistically and one of the

00:20:58.640 the implications of that i think is important

00:21:00.960 i i also eastern religions there is a concept of like merging with this

00:21:16.800 one this this like galactic soup of undifferentiation the goal and the the

00:21:26.240 idea of paradise to our ancestors and to us is individuation is being an individual maintaining

00:21:34.320 your will maintaining your consciousness maintaining your individualness as a solid

00:21:42.640 in the afterlife and that's i think that that that's important with the implication of the name

00:21:51.760 these are elevated individuals and it very much continues the cult of the hero into the heavenly

00:21:59.120 realm i think a lot of people don't realize that when they talk about collective soul uh

00:22:07.840 in relation is is that you are losing something or they're detaching from something i think that's

00:22:13.440 very Eastern, whereas we see the soul carrying the memories of this world beyond and being able

00:22:22.340 to enact their will even beyond representing or speaking of. All of these things are super

00:22:32.420 important. And if we are living our lives and life is a gift, the moment you cross over the

00:22:39.280 veil and you're just kind of merged in the soup, it lessens, I think. That concept lessens

00:22:48.960 the overarching point of being in Orlal and having actions and doing things. And so much so, 0.98

00:22:59.920 Lord Odin is also selecting those individuals and I love the fact that the usage of the word

00:23:10.040 harrying or uh has also been kind of placed in parallel with rising above like the um in the

00:23:18.520 Marine Corps they have a jet called a harrier and there's also I believe a harrier hawk and so this

00:23:23.980 idea of the rising

00:23:26.380 soul

00:23:29.920 ascension

00:23:31.600 kind of lies

00:23:33.160 poetically in there as well.

00:23:36.900 All right, let's go ahead

00:23:38.060 and finish out the paragraph and then we can

00:23:40.080 add any additional comments we might

00:23:42.100 have. All right.

00:23:44.980 So

00:23:45.580 Ganglary 1.00

00:23:48.100 who is King Galfi

00:23:49.340 is still

00:23:52.060 talking to

00:23:53.740 the three kings of the Aesir, who is really one, and this is Lord Odin, and that's why at the mural

00:24:06.080 at Odinsoth, there is a runic bit that says he is three but one, and one but three,

00:24:13.320 and he is engaging in questions, so that's who Gangleri is.

00:24:20.440 Then said Gangleri, thou saidest that all those men who have fallen in battle from the beginning of the world are now come to Odin in Valhall?

00:24:35.600 What has he to give them for food?

00:24:40.000 I should think that a very great host must be there.

00:24:44.640 Now, bear in mind, the word host is not referring to Lord Odin.

00:24:48.420 it's referring to the totality of the Einherjar. That word is very much like guest. The idea is

00:24:57.540 that linguistically, with weight, it means both the host and the guest, and that they are

00:25:04.980 sharing. But in this case, Lord Odin is the host of the host. They are the totality. And again,

00:25:15.640 he is functioning on logistics, because that was a very important part. If you were going to

00:25:23.200 house folk over the winter, it was very much a way to spread the word of your hospitality,

00:25:34.120 and it was no small matter. And it is done, we've obviously reading quite a few of the

00:25:42.480 stories in the sagas, and you see that they take a whole war band over for the winter,

00:25:51.460 and then those praises are sung. So that's why he would immediately go into this

00:25:58.300 about logistics. Then Haur, Hai, answered, that which thou sayest is true.

00:26:12.480 A very mighty multitude is there, but many more shall be, notwithstanding which it will seem all too small in the time when the wolf shall come.

00:26:26.680 Despite its great size, we would wish to have more when Ragnarok is what he's saying.

00:26:33.680 But never is it so vast a multitude in Bauhal

00:26:39.940 That the flesh of the boar shall fail 0.99

00:26:43.660 Which is called Sai Hrimnur

00:26:47.920 Now, when you look at the translations of this

00:26:51.980 You will see versions that

00:26:58.140 It doesn't make much sense

00:26:59.840 So I want to clarify

00:27:01.480 Hrimnur is to be covered, to be encrusted. It's like rime ice. It's just the ice that gathers on

00:27:15.360 things, but it can be almost anything. You could have a kind of a hrimnur of sugar on a caramelized

00:27:24.820 food, or someone could be, again, encrusted in blood. So the general use of hrymnur is to be

00:27:34.980 encrusted. It's generally referred to ice in its, like, stand-alone form. However, this is

00:27:44.260 which means sea encrusted which is a poetic lean towards salt salted pork so he is salt crusted

00:28:01.300 and he says no amount of carving off of this great battle swine um

00:28:07.780 cannot feed all of the Einherjar.

00:28:13.380 He is boiled every day and is whole by the evening.

00:28:18.440 But this question which thou ask now,

00:28:21.980 I think is likelier that few may be so wise

00:28:25.660 as to be able to report truthfully concerning it.

00:28:30.800 Because the access is limited.

00:28:33.160 So the idea is, very few will be able to report, one, because they have passed beyond the veil, but they also are limited to the access of the core and central heart of Lord Odin.

00:28:48.520 His name who roasts it is Andhrimnur. Now Andhrimnur is the cook of the Einherjar. And there are a lot of different suggestions as to what his name means, but soot from the fire.

00:29:14.160 So he is encrusted in soot. I guess it's kind of similar to, like, never trust a skinny chef, never trust a chef that's not covered in soot from cooking for everyone.

00:29:31.400 So, his name who roasts it is Andhrimnur, and the kettle is Eldhrimnur, so it is said. Now, eld is fire, flame, so it is a roasting pot that is blackened and constantly wreathed in flame.

00:29:54.300 And this also speaks to some of the dietary points is that, you know, in the Northlands ready with water, water was a valuable source or not a value.

00:30:05.780 I mean, it was a readily available source and it was a great way to extract maximum nutrients.

00:30:11.420 So a lot of the meat is boiled low and slow at an extraordinary amount of time so that it just melts off the bone.

00:30:24.300 And hrimnur has in eldhrimnur sai hrimnur sodden. Kind of they do that alliterative hit.

00:30:39.420 so sooty encrusted has flame encrusted inside it is salt encrusted or ocean encrusted best of

00:30:53.920 hams yet how few know with that food the champions are fed then said gangliri has

00:31:02.340 Oven the same fare as the champions? And Haur answered, that food which stands on his board

00:31:12.480 he gives to his two wolves, which he has called Geri and Frecki, but no food does he need.

00:31:22.500 Wine is both food and drink to him, so it says here, Geri and Frecki, the war mighty

00:31:30.200 gluteth, is that correct? The glorious god of hosts, but on wine alone the weapon glorious

00:31:40.780 Odin I liveth. So here we have the setting of the idea that the modernal, the

00:31:51.960 feasting function of eating is beyond. It is only the deep and enlightening wine.

00:32:01.400 The rest goes to the beast that is in control, that Lord Odin is in control of.

00:32:11.120 Um, but I, I do find that kind of interesting that the, the necessity to state it, it, it does, uh, it lays about something as the kids might say as aura maxing.

00:32:28.540 But the point of it is, is that it would, to the audience, be kind of awe-inspiring that the food that is dined upon is never taken to his higher self.

00:32:47.260 It's always the animalistic, but it is also the drive for his knowledge in an active sense versus drive for knowledge in the passive sense with Heunin and Munin.

00:33:02.720 And of course, they call him the God of hosts.

00:33:08.800 The ravens sit on his shoulder and say into his ear, all tidings which they see or hear.

00:33:17.260 They are called thus, Heuin and Meunin.

00:33:22.980 He sends them at daybreak to fly about all the world, and they come back at Undern meal, late night meal or dinner.

00:33:34.560 Thus, he is acquainted with many tidings.

00:33:38.500 Therefore, men call him the Raven God. 0.75

00:33:42.240 As is said, Heuin and Meunin hover each day. 0.70

00:33:46.660 the wide earth over. I fear for Huwin, lest he fare not back. Yet watch I more for Munin.

00:33:57.800 A couple of things. We've spoken about the cosmology of our ancestors that the belief of

00:34:06.460 in the center of Midgard, there is the heavenly mountains. And there, Lord Odin from Valhall,

00:34:15.480 from Heath's scalp is sending out, watching, observing, gaining knowledge of all the goings

00:34:25.220 on. So I really do encourage our folk to understand this is not some sort of cerebral

00:34:33.420 game. The gods are watching. The gods are invested. The gods care about what's going on

00:34:42.380 in the world, and in particular with their folk. So I would love just Ausatruir to

00:34:51.580 really take into consideration that Heimdallur, Lord Odin, the gods in total gathering to council

00:35:03.560 at the well, these are all points in which we should consider. And I think a lot of people do,

00:35:11.260 perhaps they're saying it as a kind of cultural tagline, but there is often a point where we say,

00:35:20.340 holy gods, witness us, witness our deeds, watch our deeds, or watch what we are doing. And this

00:35:27.280 is really important. I know that a lot of people who have studied maybe a little further in have

00:35:32.560 heard of the word psychopomp um that uh lord odin is a psychopomp but the point of that whether

00:35:41.120 we're talking about the classical sense uh where it was the it was defined with hermes um or mercury

00:35:50.920 in the roman uh faith um he is deeply connected to the consciousness of the individual so the breath

00:36:01.900 that was given remains and has that connectivity. And so there is that concern. I want to be

00:36:10.760 witnessed. I want to be elevated. It's the drive to do so. Where Lord Tyr, I think, is more concerned

00:36:20.140 with the totality of the living and where they go from after war, Lord Odin has even more so of that

00:36:30.060 is not only is he concerned with the wars and the victory but also with the individual souls

00:36:36.280 and out of them who will be brought up um so he said

00:36:42.960 point out a couple of things for anybody who might um might not know because there's times

00:36:51.900 for you just get lost trying to translate every name of everything but when getting this uh

00:36:59.080 important glimpse at odin some of these things the names of his wolves are greedy and ravenous

00:37:12.840 the fact that wolves are an interesting

00:37:17.800 an interesting animal in the poetry of the ancestors they are there is nobility to them

00:37:27.960 but there's also a dark side there's also the larger um there's certainly an element of devouring

00:37:38.840 and of like like um monstrous devouring you see wolves uh skull and haiti that try to devour the

00:37:49.800 sun and the moon you see uh fenrir and you see these like very voracious hard to control hard

00:37:59.640 to hold back threatening forces um the master of inspiration odin sits and he has two of these

00:38:08.520 wolves that are his pets that he feeds you know that he feeds food from the table that he's able

00:38:15.320 to to tame these ferocious and wild things and that's one of the interesting facts when you

00:38:22.920 start going into odin and things about him it is frenzy and like an uncontrolled fury seemingly

00:38:33.720 but it's in fact quite controlled the fact that he has the mastery um

00:38:40.040 um because Odin means like the furious one or whatever without context but I think more

00:38:48.800 more properly the master of fury the master of inspiration the master of the the road or the

00:38:56.060 older he is able to be overcome with the inspiration but maintain the control he's

00:39:06.200 maintain control and not be given to uh losing his ability to master things like these two wolves

00:39:19.240 and also i think the the point about the the ravens is very interesting and

00:39:25.800 i don't know the restating of him fearing to lose you know he fears losing both of them

00:39:33.480 but he fears losing uh more uh hugan means thought munan means memory so he sends these

00:39:46.280 he sends his thoughts and his memories and these agents of collecting those things and seeing the

00:39:53.160 world and experiencing midgard out and they come back and report back to him the idea that

00:39:58.520 and i think many of us can relate to this and things we've had in our lives or if we've seen

00:40:05.280 people go into a state of dementia the idea of losing your your faculties to think is terrifying

00:40:14.520 but the idea of losing your memory all the more so and all the more tragic and i think that's

00:40:19.480 just kind of a poignant thing the other thing i would like to point out to this is interesting

00:40:24.760 There is a tendency amongst people who come from a Christian background to inherently take things far too literally.

00:40:40.980 And I think this is an interesting occasion of that.

00:40:43.500 So it talks about how all of the men fallen in battle from the beginning of the world go to Valhalla.

00:40:54.480 well that's not the case in a literal sense and we know that even in amongst the corpus of the lore

00:41:00.480 it talks about how lady freya gets a portion of these battle dead in the same kind of scenario

00:41:08.160 and it talks about how they all fit in this hall a regular hall like that fitting them all in you

00:41:14.400 wouldn't even be able to tell from where you're sitting it was a hall it would be so vast it's

00:41:18.800 It's incalculable and like it wouldn't make any sense.

00:41:25.420 The idea that there is a special place in the halls of the gods and in the presence of the Allfather for noble warriors who have had the courage to test themselves in the field of battle is the point.

00:41:42.380 the idea that these individual warriors there's no point in talking about the iron here you are

00:41:48.140 if everybody who's ever died in battle gets to make it there no it talks about how these special

00:41:54.160 chosen ones get to be there so having a little bit of flexibility into where you're not missing

00:42:01.860 the point for the um for the poetic description i think is is worth noting and very relevant here

00:42:11.520 the idea that the gods can call up and welcome into their halls those who have impressed them

00:42:17.540 or those who, for whatever reasons they might have, they choose to want to bring closer to them.

00:42:24.420 And it goes into something Svon was talking about.

00:42:26.220 We always want the gods to be proud of us, and we want them to witness our deeds.

00:42:33.680 We want to, this is sewn in on a macro and a micro level, but it's so very at odds with the humble theme of Christianity that's been so pervasive.

00:42:49.180 It's very awkward for people. Even long-time mausages who are very humble, don't want a lot of attention sometimes because in our society it's unseemly to brag or to showboat.

00:43:05.100 there's a fine line between doing that in a boorish and churlish way and doing things

00:43:13.240 very much to earn fame in the eyes of your folk the eyes of your ancestors and very importantly

00:43:20.840 in this instance in the eyes of the gods we want to build our fame and our worth

00:43:26.620 letting other people know our worth that's the root of a lot of these concepts words really do

00:43:33.840 matter but that's what worship comes from is worth ship or the idea of assigning worth or

00:43:41.840 recognizing the worth of and an archaic sense of that you'd read in arthurian legend the knights

00:43:51.680 would travel to go to tournaments and do great deeds to win worship which is an odd thing and

00:43:58.880 it would sound like an odd thing in the christian period but that's still when our ancestors

00:44:02.960 understood the idea of worship meaning you are increasing your your worth these people hero worship

00:44:13.040 wasn't to our ancestors some kind of an improper idolatry it was a celebration

00:44:19.680 of worthy men and women who ought to be celebrated in such a way that the

00:44:26.240 magnitude might draw the attention of the gods and hopefully their approval

00:44:32.960 While I've got a break for a second, Caleb donated $250 towards the Baldershof steeple, saying thank you to the Baldershof full, who saved me this much on a rental car.

00:44:46.760 So, awesome. Thank you, Caleb. We appreciate you.

00:44:52.160 And Svon, let's find out about what the Einherjahr drink.

00:45:00.040 i uh i just wanted to tip my hat to virginia oliveria um that was that's a great comment um

00:45:09.680 so of the drink of the einherjar the importance of uh supping a drink in whole culture

00:45:22.320 is as important today as it was then so then said ganglary what have the champions to drink

00:45:32.540 that may suffice them as abundantly as the food available or is water drunk there then said how

00:45:42.040 Now thou askest strangely, as if all father would invite to him kings or arles or other men of might, and would give them water to drink?

00:45:57.260 So we can see the line of questioning here is, obviously he's supping on wine, what does everyone else drink?

00:46:04.880 and kind of a broach in impropriety

00:46:10.760 where he suggests that there would be water alone to be drunk.

00:46:18.480 I know by my faith.

00:46:23.160 Interesting, the usage of the word

00:46:25.560 in the sense that it's a proclamation of faith,

00:46:29.120 which would not seem outside at that time.

00:46:32.800 So, to say you have great faith by the gods, by your ancestors, is not out of place.

00:46:41.540 I know by my faith that many a man comes to Valhall who would think he had bought his drink of water dearly.

00:46:52.480 he paid the price and fought valiantly and would not abide by simply gaining just water

00:47:04.640 if there were not better cheer to be had there he who before had suffered wounds and was burning

00:47:14.760 pain unto death. I can tell thee a different tale of this. There is a she-goat, and her name

00:47:23.780 is Hidrun. Stands up in Valhau and bites the needles from the limbs of the tree, which is 1.00

00:47:36.000 very famous and is called Lairauder, and from her udders runs so copiously that she fills a tun, 0.90

00:47:47.880 a giant barrel, every day. That tun is so great that all the champions become quite drunk from it.

00:47:59.260 Then said Ganglary, that is a wondrous proper goat for them. It must be an exceeding good tree from which she eats.

00:48:11.240 So we have a couple things here. One, anybody who's familiar with an ash tree might say needles. And it's worth noting that the exact specification of the genus of Yggdrasil is different sometimes in different poems.

00:48:36.700 So I think what that really is, is that there were multiple takes of the coniferous to the ash, and it survives in the stories. Some of the folk would attest to a yew tree or perhaps a fir tree, and then, of course, the ash.

00:48:59.180 So you find that, and that's where kind of just that consideration of perhaps where, you know, things are coming from.

00:49:10.780 The other thing is the measurement of the TUN, which is not modern, but is at this time extremely rare.

00:49:18.900 So anybody who's a former Marine or a Marine currently would know, as the Marine Corps was founded in a tavern called Tun Tavern, which is a barrel size for tapping and drawing from.

00:49:38.120 and it is quite big um but what is going on here is there is a symbiosis or

00:49:48.760 there is a a draw there's a symbiosis is that he the rune the shining rune she is drawing from

00:49:57.960 from Yggdrasil, or, and this is another time that a lot of folks might not know, that there are

00:50:07.240 other names. Leirauder is a perfectly kind of acceptable title, but again, most people might

00:50:16.420 not know. Leirauder is Yggdrasil, and as she draws nourishment from the tree to feed the Einherjar,

00:50:28.040 the symbiotic part is that the Einherjar are there to protect the tree, the gods. It is there

00:50:36.940 in heaven with them. And so there's a kind of nourishment or maintaining stability and order

00:50:45.780 as chaos is that which will disrupt it. So it is symbiotic.

00:50:56.500 Then spoke Haur. Even more worthy of note is the heart.

00:51:02.220 eik three me now eik means oak um and i have been looking i was looking up earlier just the

00:51:11.860 translation of three me um i i uh i don't know i was here to go if you were kind of on that already

00:51:20.900 because i was looking for it it was a little perplexing but what we start to see is the

00:51:28.160 mentioning of the consumptive nature of Yggdrasil, like a battery, like a river, there are multiple

00:51:39.220 sources pulling out of it. Not all of it is seen as chaotic. Not all of it is seen as detrimental.

00:51:45.260 A lot of it is. But there is also this law of exchange between taking from Lairauder and giving something in return, whether it's the watering of the roots by the Nornir or whether it's the protection of it from chaos.

00:52:07.260 chaos it's it is the sacred center um so again it is right that's what i can find on the name

00:52:17.580 because i was looking at that i've been looking a lot is like the thorny oak okay uh yeah here

00:52:25.900 me i i i can see thorn but um it wasn't the usual spelling of it so that's why it was throwing me

00:52:35.660 off and again uh oaks don't like have oak thorny or oak spiked right okay well and that could refer

00:52:47.020 to the antlers that's another thing that a lot of scholars don't do is they don't look at um

00:52:53.740 the poetic value they look at direct translation and when you're looking at the poetic value and

00:53:00.460 seeing that you know the heart with the horns um standing amongst uh yggdrasil now does this mean

00:53:09.340 that yggdrasil or lyra there is solely an uh an oak oh now we're going to go from ash to you to

00:53:18.700 oak it's supposed to be mysterious and not fully it that gray zone is part of the magic um

00:53:28.940 um so it could also reference to the antler's size and color being like oak and then having

00:53:37.340 uh many points but uh i think people read into it kind of demanding some sense of just a linear

00:53:47.640 point but all of these trees are extremely important and have huge amounts of

00:53:55.840 value to our ancestors. And so Lairauder or Yggdrasil is all of these things as it is

00:54:08.100 needed to be understood. And then yet it is not a tree at all. But the circulatory system of

00:54:18.240 the universe and the central point of order amongst the gods of cosmic order and the roots

00:54:25.740 go far and wide. And, you know, there are some people that claim that all of the roots of Yggdrasil

00:54:34.080 are in the lower world. That would be very similar to saying that amongst the Greco-Romans,

00:54:41.280 that Mount Olympus starts in the underworld. But the foundation of something is very, very

00:54:50.500 important. And where it is, as well as its importance of how it reconnects to things,

00:54:59.660 the third root, it's not the tap root, it's the last of the roots, is lifted up into the,

00:55:07.880 exalted into the heavenly realm where there is a wellspring. And there the gods utilize that,

00:55:14.060 but the first one is in the lowest realm it's the tap root and it draws its way all the way up and

00:55:20.940 that's because our and i've spoken about this our ancestors um seeing the cosmos not as individual

00:55:28.460 bubbles hanging from leaves or or roots but that very much so what they were seeing around them

00:55:36.380 There was the mountains where the tree and the roots go through the mountains and through Midgar and into the unknown and those well springs are produced from that.

00:55:49.540 And that, I think, was much more understanding to their to their mind. It was the sacred center.

00:55:55.920 and that didn't necessarily have to be a shish kebab kind of concept or having something like

00:56:07.240 that it was beyond that and didn't necessarily need and then those roots were the circulatory

00:56:13.860 because remember folks all roots draw up and there are three roots one in the heavenly realm

00:56:20.600 one in the middle realm and one in the lower. So all of it returns back to the heavenly realm

00:56:29.040 in its own ways. And that's why Nidogar is trying to destroy that root. As everything sits down,

00:56:39.740 it is returned back up, and he wants to break that cycle. So Gangleri says, that is a wondrous

00:56:51.060 and properist goat for them. It must be an exceedingly good tree from which she eats.

00:56:57.980 Then spoke Haur, even more worthy of note, is the heart, Eikthriani, which stands in Valhall and 0.99

00:57:06.300 bites from the limbs of the tree, and from his horns distills such abundant exudation 0.98

00:57:14.400 that it comes down into Vergelmer, which is the wellspring in the lower world that I was just

00:57:24.100 kind of referring to. So the light and emanation goes all the way down, even to the darkest,

00:57:33.280 kind of farthest away from the gods where things are not fully defined and are misty and

00:57:46.080 waiting. And so that's the horns giving off this light. And from thence fall those rivers

00:58:00.180 called thus. Now, bear in mind, too, the rivers. There are rivers mentioned in Grimnismel,

00:58:08.720 and I've done some extensive work with the priesthood about how we know the 11 rivers

00:58:15.900 in the underworld, but then there are man rivers or Midgard rivers, and then there are rivers

00:58:22.020 in heaven on top of these rivers that we, well, some of them are referenced from Grimnismel.

00:58:30.180 But that is what brought me to kind of explaining, giving kind of a dissertation on why there are liminal rivers in heaven, in Midgard, and below, but the spiritual weight of the rivers is different than, say, the physical rivers in the Midworld, and that's noted in their names.

00:58:58.200 So flowing from his horns, the dew that's gathered as he is in the height of Lairauder, it says from thence fall those rivers called thus.

00:59:15.240 There is seethe, and I'm actually looking for the Nordic, yeah.

00:59:22.440 Seed, vid, wide, saikin, eikin, svol, gunthro, fjorm, fimbethol, gipol, kapol, kamol, geirvimol.

00:59:45.880 and that actually did that end it on this i see it broken here uh those fall about the abodes

00:59:56.820 of the gods the iser these also are recorded fin

01:00:03.280 And I have all of these translations, but I do want to press forward.

01:00:30.360 I highly recommend that folks go look if you have a Old Icelandic, Old Norse dictionary, or really online.

01:00:40.160 There's a lot of good stuff.

01:00:41.300 And try to find multiple sources, and you'll see how translations kind of work.

01:00:46.160 The worst thing I think that I've seen is somebody translating, it is a sacred river, and then leaves it at that.

01:00:53.640 Um, but the, uh, biggest thing too, is some of these rivers are mentioned in the Grimnismal, which is what led me to looking at these rivers being in heavenly abode and, um, they flow from and flow into our world.

01:01:14.320 So when Lord Thor steps over the rivers, he's not stepping over rivers in Midgar, he's stepping over rivers in the heavenly realm, and that's where the tree resides.

01:01:28.720 Some people have kind of interpreted that the moment he steps over rivers, that means that it has to be in the underworld, and I think that is very detrimental to the Aryan tri-world view of the upper, middle, and lower.

01:01:44.120 And some people have taken the liberty to cram their own understanding or lack of understanding to create these false sense, but placing the roots at the bottom has detrimental effects when you consider other things like the striker in every Aryan faith not going into the underworld, being uniquely connected to the middle and the upper.

01:02:11.720 And also that somehow the gods go down into the underworld, even though Lord Odin is mighty and powerful for doing so, and is so weakened by the death of Baldr that he asks for Meili, or a volunteer, and Meili steps forward to do so.

01:02:33.760 it would immediately make all of that, uh, tension irrelevant. And I don't think that's

01:02:41.480 the case at all. So, um, oh, excuse me, uh, Vey, Svin, and Fyovnuma, um, the, uh, peoples,

01:02:56.860 uh, trying to see, no, they don't have a very good, uh, translator here at the bottom.

01:03:03.100 um i and i just don't like jumping from page to page to page um but i also you know a lot of it

01:03:09.680 i don't have committed to memory it's i think it's everyone um that's a realization and an honest

01:03:17.360 truth at the same time i'm very very hesitant to say definitively because interpretations and

01:03:26.140 A lot of times they leave out poetic sense. So when I do want to translate, I want to make sure I'm translating correctly and don't just write it off as a sacred river.

01:03:38.160 of the size of Valhalla or Valhall then said Gangleri these are marvelous tidings which thou

01:03:49.100 now tell us a wondrous great house Valhall must be it must often be exceeding exceedingly crowded

01:03:58.800 before the doors. Then Hauer says, why dost thou not ask how many doors there are in the hall,

01:04:08.940 or how great? If thou hearest that told, then thou wilt say that it is a strange indeed if

01:04:16.540 whosoever will may not go in and out or in, but it may be said truly that it is no more crowded

01:04:27.240 to find a place therein than to enter into it. Here thou mayest read Grimnismal. And I like that

01:04:37.260 kind of introduction. You may read it here in the section in Grimnismal. And Grimnismal is Lord

01:04:45.340 Odin, who is held captive by a king, and he is slowly letting the king know how

01:04:54.720 bad of a situation he's in um and while doing so uh teaching in lore he says 500 doors and 40 more

01:05:08.220 so I deem stand in Valhall 800 champions go out each door when they fare to fight the wolf

01:05:19.080 some folks try to kind of take a I don't know a biblical sense where they can mathematically

01:05:28.200 figure out that there's a cap but I have always viewed this as 800 wide so the the width of the

01:05:39.540 door or that it could let pass 800 with that with ease I don't think it's good for us to

01:05:47.220 again, try to jam the gods into a box. But it's, again, the poetic meaning is the audience,

01:05:58.460 the warriors listening, it's just so beyond conceptualization that it's just 800 men

01:06:10.560 could pass through the door um so uh well i'd like to um i want to get to some questions here

01:06:22.740 but i do want to finish this next section before we get to that um also i'd like to make note uh

01:06:30.820 joshua in indiana donated 30 towards the cigarhane pavilion thank you joshua and isaac in

01:06:38.680 sorry, Missouri donated $50 towards the Baldur's Hoffs people saying,

01:06:50.940 had a great time during Summer Mall at Baldur's Hoff. Thanks to leadership and all the people

01:06:57.100 there. Hail the ISEER. Thank you for that, Isaac. We appreciate you guys. And got a few 0.65

01:07:06.160 A few questions stacking up that we can go ahead and get here in a few minutes.

01:07:10.840 But Svahn, if you would tell us about the amusements of the Einherjar.

01:07:17.660 Absolutely.

01:07:21.080 Of the amusements of the Einherjar.

01:07:25.660 Then said Gangleri, a very mighty multitude of men is in Bauhal,

01:07:30.840 so that, by my faith, Odin is a very great chieftain.

01:07:35.040 since he commands so large an army.

01:07:38.660 Now, what is the sport of the champions

01:07:41.240 when they are fighting or when they are not fighting?

01:07:45.680 Haor replied, every day, as soon as they are clothed,

01:07:49.520 they straight away put on their armor

01:07:51.880 and go out into the court and fight,

01:07:54.860 and they fell each other.

01:07:57.340 That is their sport.

01:07:59.080 And when the time draws near to Undern Miel,

01:08:02.360 they ride home to Valhall and sit down to drink, even as it is said here. All the Einherjar in 0.99

01:08:11.740 Odin's court deal out blows every day, and the slain they choose and ride from the strife

01:08:19.160 sit later in love and companionship together. But what thou hast said is true. Odin is of great

01:08:28.920 might. Many examples are found in the proof of this, as is here, said in the words of the Aesir

01:08:36.220 themselves. Ash, Yggdrasil's trunk, of trees it is foremost, and skidbladnir, the shining or

01:08:51.180 scintillating blade of ships, that is, of holy fray. Odin of the Aesir, of all steeds, Sleipnir.

01:09:04.420 Sleipnir is the slipping one. Bivrost of the bridges, the shimmering, fiery pathway.

01:09:14.140 and Bragi of all scalds,

01:09:20.620 Haurbrock of the hawks and of hounds, Garmer.

01:09:27.200 And this kind of also settles a little bit of a debate

01:09:29.640 in where I've seen people argue whether or not Garmer is seen as a hound or a wolf.

01:09:36.180 And I think it is important to understand the reasoning between a wolf and a hound. The hound of hell, or the hellhound, is kept in lock with service, duty, yet Lord Odin is able to bring to heel ones that are seen as being incapable of doing so.

01:10:03.660 So that elevates that even more.

01:10:10.320 And that ends that section.

01:10:12.180 Do you want me to press further, Elzer?

01:10:14.500 No, I think that's good.

01:10:15.780 And we can start answering some of the questions on the side.

01:10:21.480 I'm glad we're able to cover a little bit of content there, I guess.

01:10:28.540 Oh, I wanted to say too,

01:10:30.280 howbrock is how is high and brock is uh a hawk so it's the pinnacle um is uh breeches um pants so

01:10:45.640 uh sorry this one is interesting because the uh the legs of the hawk being long and high and grasping

01:10:54.840 um i think is the the note that they're saying they're all good breaches sorry oh no you're fine um

01:11:06.920 just kind of wanted to

01:11:10.840 note again for

01:11:14.440 as far as concepts the afterlife i talked before about how our

01:11:20.280 we want to go we want to continue our individual existence we want to continue life i think

01:11:30.700 we use the the term afterlife has been used so often that i don't think we think about it or

01:11:39.320 think about the implications of it people like oh dead people go somewhere when they're when they

01:11:45.040 die yeah but what do they do there and i think the idea that there are struggles to be done there are

01:11:52.640 things to accomplish and do after this life is a very important one and one that others don't

01:12:00.800 think about in the same way sometimes so we very much believe that there is life

01:12:06.400 beyond the veil and we don't know what all that looks like but here in the hall of odin

01:12:12.320 And these heroes that are chosen to ascend there, they go out and they train and they practice and they fight and they celebrate.

01:12:25.140 But the idea that there's still struggle and things to do and things to be done beyond the veil is one that I don't think people often conceive of.

01:12:37.180 So Caleb asks, can Ausatruar be Freemasons?

01:12:42.320 Spahn, what say you?

01:12:47.320 I know from the Freemason perspective. I am not a Freemason, so anybody that wants to try to spurg out about that.

01:12:56.320 However, I have met them and I am interested in the inner workings, apparently in modern messianic traditions, specifically in the Prince Hall variation versus the Scottish Rite, which I don't have any experience with interacting and talking,

01:13:16.920 is that as long as the member believes in a higher power

01:13:27.400 and understands that the referencing of many of the foundational members of the Masons,

01:13:31.600 even though I think they've greatly twisted over the centuries,

01:13:38.560 perhaps from outer infiltration, considering power levels and things,

01:13:44.920 is that they would refer to the divine in an architectural way.

01:13:52.260 And that makes perfect sense considering the framework of Masons.

01:13:56.880 But yet they, one of the things that they were accused of was their

01:14:02.400 loose interpretation of divinity.

01:14:09.260 Whereas many people were saying, no, if you're not saying Yahweh or Yehovah or even the German word God, you're going against things.

01:14:21.360 And they seem to refer in different ways. George Washington even called divinity the grand providence, the will of all things happening.

01:14:36.860 And I like to consider that is that the will of all things happening exudes from something, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a singular force via Yahweh, God of the Israelites.

01:14:52.640 So, from their side, you can be. However, I think that a lot of Ausatruer are a little hesitant in that sense, for whatever reasons, past, history. And there also seems to be a sense that there's a cap.

01:15:11.860 There are lower members who try to help out their community and do good things and make themselves moral men.

01:15:21.140 And for a lot of folks that perhaps are mistrusting of the Christian churches or what have you, they find some guidance there, but beyond and in the upper echelons.

01:15:33.580 You know, but my brother was completely funded towards his health with the Shriners burn unit up in Boston.

01:15:46.080 So I take that as, you know, there is actions and then there is accusations, and I think some of them are valid, but it is, I think it's enough that most of our folk don't always lean towards that.

01:16:03.640 But I think I have met some Ausatruir in our church who are members in good standing. 0.95

01:16:12.280 I can guarantee you what you have.

01:16:14.020 i do want to make one quick correction prince hall is specifically an african-american branch

01:16:20.740 of masonry that's not what you were trying to talk about so you have the af and a and am and the af

01:16:32.020 and a are two divergent branches of regular masonry and then above regular masonry which

01:16:39.700 you have the three degrees above that is your york's your york right your scottish right and

01:16:46.100 above scottish right you have your templars um i left freemasonry four or five years ago

01:16:54.380 something like that i was all the way up at a 32nd degree scottish right which is basically

01:17:00.780 just watch a couple videos online because it was covid it's dumb i never even met another

01:17:06.480 Scottish Rite person. I, too, got over a million dollars worth of medical bills paid at Shriners

01:17:14.860 as a child for birth defects. So I totally get that. But yeah, every state's going to have its

01:17:23.920 own bylaws. And depending on if it's an AF&M or an AF&AM, the bylaws are going to be an even more

01:17:30.640 difference but realistically according to their bylaws you were correct in that as long as you

01:17:36.620 just believe in a higher power that's one of that's the requirement but and it may be different

01:17:45.320 if you're in a big city where they do have multicultural religion stuff where i went and

01:17:53.580 the 150 maybe total members i ever met in five years in the small towns every single one of them

01:18:02.200 was christian and every single one of them expected even if they weren't allowed to require it that

01:18:09.820 every other mason they met was a christian right it's it's and every lesson you're learning

01:18:17.700 is coded in a story from solomon and the building of his temple and yeah they may be trying to teach

01:18:27.880 you some moralistic thing but they're doing it under the guise of christianity yeah submitting

01:18:36.180 yeah it's i don't personally and i'll see through our beginning all right so it's definitely hebe

01:18:44.180 coded it uh there is a communism and universalism anti-traditionalism that is a subversive

01:19:01.700 thing that's at the very core of it that i think ideologically i know that you know you don't have

01:19:10.220 to be a christian you can technically be alsatru and be allowed to be a mason but i don't i would

01:19:18.020 not advise alsatruar to do that i think that the shriner stuff with children's hospitals that's

01:19:24.660 amazing that's awesome but the the yeah the french revolution commie stuff i don't like and i don't

01:19:40.860 think is super healthy um but that said i'm sure the vast majority of masons in the united states

01:19:48.560 are there for you know family tradition things local community stuff that's really embedded

01:19:54.860 i don't think those people are actively trying to subvert hierarchical structures in the world

01:20:03.500 but yeah technically i suppose you could be but i don't find masonry in keeping without the true

01:20:09.260 values um jill asks an interesting question it's fun if someone only took one lesson

01:20:20.060 from the guild beginning into their moats bloats or sambal what would you hope it would be

01:20:30.300 i hope that it would be um the the understanding of the titles and the beginning steps of building

01:20:39.580 a relationship with the icier specifically the uh house and our senior that is such a foundational

01:20:48.540 point of the 12 goddesses and the 12 holy gods that men or folk or our people should pray to.

01:20:59.900 And so that is the core central point. Outside of all of it, you know, I could wax about the

01:21:08.820 nuances of theological concepts, but that all is secondary to action. And action starts with

01:21:18.380 the gateway of building a relationship with the holy gods and the holy goddesses

01:21:24.220 in the necessity of where we're going from here and why we're building 12 Hoffs and

01:21:33.260 um beyond and uh or yes excuse me um 14 Hoffs and beyond um those purposes so few people uh when I

01:21:48.380 um, ask the holy goddesses to bear witness to the wedding that happened over this weekend,

01:21:55.380 um, very few folk, Ausatruer, um, know and understand, and that's okay, it's not about,

01:22:06.140 uh, we can have a relationship with the Aesir in totality, but it is worth understanding and

01:22:12.940 gaining relationship intricately with the gods as well and that's why i think that part is the

01:22:19.540 most important is is clarifying that or um clarifying it in like we have it in the true

01:22:27.940 so so yeah it's hard because it's not a text like the album

01:22:41.980 all to where it's you know do this don't do that here's some advice what i would hope the lesson

01:22:50.700 they would take would that's kind of a convoluted answer but would be

01:23:02.220 grounding and context like

01:23:05.100 by reading and digesting the guilt beginning i think one is equipped to understand what they're

01:23:20.580 doing who the gods and the goddesses are what the basics of also true faith is

01:23:32.500 excuse me pleasure so that especially i don't know so that they are secure and oriented in it

01:23:44.400 if it's something that they you know are old hat at or so they are familiar and they feel

01:23:51.780 confident engaging in worship and engaging in house of truth if they're new to it or maybe

01:23:58.120 they haven't gone to a moat or a bloat or assembled before so they can feel confident

01:24:07.160 knowing what's what who's who and how are the very basic structure of of our faith

01:24:17.640 um austin asks i suppose says at first greetings gentlemen uh hope your evening thus far is going

01:24:26.360 well wondering if you have any thoughts on the olympians in greek lore they seem to be uh petty

01:24:33.320 and spiteful especially when you compare them to the isere why would these two branches of arian

01:24:39.240 pantheons differ in this regard thank you for all you do it's fun i know you have thought yeah um

01:24:48.920 Um, well, one, I think that it is worth noting that much of the stories of the holy gods

01:24:58.000 can indicate many things, keep many things. It's like a twined rope. Um, at the wedding this

01:25:05.880 weekend, we placed the hammer of Thor on the bride's lap, and we get this from when, uh, 0.74

01:25:14.580 Thor's hammer is stolen, but it doesn't make a lot of sense for the Jotnar to do this,

01:25:21.200 since it's always kind of placed that Lord Thor is the enemy of the Jotnar. But what it's really

01:25:28.020 doing is grounding the story in tradition amongst the folk. And so you find a lot of that, but it

01:25:36.480 even extends to attitude. It extends to the conceptualization of femininity, masculinity,

01:25:43.620 And I think that the Mediterranean, the tomato Europe, as I like to joke, their conceptualization of divinity and oftentimes reflecting their society, especially since they did build around metropolises, has a lot of that.

01:26:05.340 But also bear in mind, on top of this, most of the stories that we know survives from a time when the sophists were pushing for theatrical enactment.

01:26:17.840 It wasn't just a celebration of the gods. No, this was the sophists were paying for playwrights and poets to do things, but they had a specific purpose was that they were slowly starting to erode the religious structure in Greece.

01:26:36.180 And even in Rome, some of them were neutral. I would say that the Stoics were rather neutral, whereas there were others, Cynics and such, that took a great vehemence to the religious order.

01:27:02.540 And so they really promoted the survival of these stories to be placed. Now I'm not saying that's the entirety of it, but there is clearly the time when these stories are being presented and written down and played out, the religious structure of the state was not what people might think it is.

01:27:27.560 So there is that. However, too, it is that kind of interaction with the divine. And then when the folk interact with the divine, they find points and those points can either be total divine reflection or total human reflection.

01:27:52.700 And some of that is to carry on traditions. Some of that is to give perspective. The way that the dichotomy of the family that plays out in some of the Greco-Roman myths is very different from the Germanic myths.

01:28:07.560 And I had spoken about the difference between, say, like a hag, a hag in Mediterranean societies, you know, a woman who perhaps has no property, no descendants or all of her descendants died and she is past her childbearing age.

01:28:26.160 So, with the abundance of food and wine there, there was very little value and some of them were pushed to the edges of society. Whereas in Germanic culture, because there isn't just readily available people going out and living on their own very often, elderly women were seen as mothers, but just mothers of the children in a broad sense. 0.74

01:28:53.060 So you find they are incorporated in the societal levels a lot more. And the auguries and their wisdom and things are held in high regard. So you can see little things that are different.

01:29:08.940 Another great point is that Lord Heimdallr is the one who brings the runes to the folk. He elevates the folk, and he's not punished for it. He is exalted. He is the connection point between the upper realm and the middle realm, not only in Bivrost, but in deed.

01:29:33.140 And when he's invited into the home of great-grandmother and great-grandfather or grandfather and grandmother or father and mother, it's these generational points, he makes them better.

01:29:46.100 And that, I don't think, is somehow stepping on Lord Odin's toes.

01:29:51.040 He does not, in the stories, present as to be, nobody can touch them but me. This is a forest and the tree kind of strength. And that, I think, reflects from society.

01:30:08.180 Weather and war and all of these things create a different outlook.

01:30:14.380 Even Tacitus, when he went up into Germania, he noticed that there was a different mindset.

01:30:22.860 So naturally, the interactions that happen between the gods, and I'm not saying they don't happen.

01:30:30.280 What I'm saying is that the interaction between two divine beings, perhaps springing forth spiritual energy in the form of a new divine being, is always coded in an understanding of marriage or courtship or union.

01:30:52.860 And it's done in a way that our ancestors would understand. The idea that Holy Freyr had to send an emissary to woo his wife, it shows the difficult nature of the situation.

01:31:10.720 But it's not actual people. It is the ray of light beaming from Holy Freyr, because Skinner, that is his name, is sundering the cold and ungiving earth to make it giving.

01:31:30.000 And that's not a process that happens easily.

01:31:33.020 So these kind of things, I think, should be considered when you're looking at the overall.

01:31:40.780 And lastly, I would like to point out that some people who perhaps have Mediterranean roots, and they might say, oh, I can't be ousted through because I am of Mediterranean stock, European.

01:31:54.480 And I would point out that some of the things that you are perhaps feeling and seeing and noting is because you did grow up in the framework of a Germanic society. You speak a Germanic language that is highly hybridized, but it is not, not Germanic.

01:32:14.860 And so I think our culture also reflects that even unto today. So when I give that cautionary

01:32:22.620 sense that you should consider these things, it's not saying that either the present moment is wrong

01:32:29.700 and that we should return to something. We should incline ourselves to read and understand the

01:32:34.940 wisdom of our ancestors, but also realize that we face problems that they did not. And we have

01:32:40.520 solutions that they never thought of because they didn't face those problems um it's better to keep

01:32:46.920 kind of a uh flexible uh view of these things yeah i think there's a number of things at play um

01:32:59.880 we do kind of go from the back uh i guess from spawn's most recent comment and go back a little

01:33:10.600 bit if you this is kind of baked into the question but these different lenses to arian divinity

01:33:26.280 all reflect the true gods of our folk

01:33:32.700 they are best preserved in the norse context in a way that is dignified that's meaningful

01:33:44.740 and that has come to us from a time where

01:33:47.680 those bringing the stories to us did it with a reverence if not a reverence for the Aesir

01:33:59.440 themselves a reverence for their forefathers and the tradition of their forefathers

01:34:04.420 by the time we get the majority of the writings from Greece about the Olympians

01:34:12.880 they are character devices in other fictive works used to trivialize them or to make them

01:34:25.160 villainous in some way and that doesn't reflect the earlier and very sincere belief that some

01:34:32.540 had and yet the thing is the motivations of the writers are often very different

01:34:38.560 I think that for all of the amazing

01:34:44.780 literary things bequeathed to us

01:34:49.440 from classical Greece

01:34:50.780 you have snobby

01:34:55.180 artists that are self-absorbed

01:35:00.000 that I think often times are not

01:35:03.420 particularly devout Hellenists

01:35:06.640 in their faith and i think that they don't treat their gods with reverence often in the works that

01:35:14.680 come to us i don't think that the archaeology bears that out for the average greek at the time

01:35:21.440 period but the elite sit around looking at little boys and eating olives people who wrote the stuff

01:35:32.060 are a very small and very, you know,

01:35:38.480 if only the woke, purple-haired Starbucks crowd

01:35:42.520 wrote about things now,

01:35:44.960 it would give a very warped perception of it.

01:35:49.140 And I think the class of people that wrote

01:35:51.380 and recorded the lore in...

01:35:55.960 Just had a rainstorm hit here.

01:35:59.540 Anyway, in Iceland, when these stories come to us and are collected, there's much more of a respect for ancestors.

01:36:11.640 And that's one of the things that I really like and we're very blessed by in the preservation of our war.

01:36:19.840 So also from Austin, what is your favorite comfort food, Svang?

01:36:24.640 Ooh. I have three, but right now, as of late, it has been my top is saltine crackers with

01:36:42.140 tinned fish. And whatever variation of tinned fish that is, I greatly enjoy trying different

01:36:50.820 things or sometimes i'll some sort of starch because i'll do a slice of bread or um even uh

01:37:00.420 frozen or refrigerated rice that's been heated back up and i you know love doing like say

01:37:07.620 louisiana style sauce or mustard on top and i might add chopped up olives um

01:37:14.100 Um, uh, I did, uh, cranberry and sunflower seed on top of, it's just the sardines though

01:37:23.700 is like a very big thing for me outside of my other two being mashed potatoes or anything

01:37:30.800 potato and, um, uh, clam chowder is my other one.

01:37:39.200 So that's an interesting question.

01:37:41.580 and I'm revealing too much.

01:37:54.940 I overthink these kinds of questions.

01:37:57.200 I overthink them very bad.

01:38:02.260 Man.

01:38:06.760 It's my favorite comfort food I have.

01:38:11.580 whatever something involving mashed potatoes and gravy is always a big part of it i'd say chicken

01:38:28.020 fried steak and mashed potatoes and gravy probably get me there on a comfort food thing really good

01:38:33.680 meatloaf also with mashed potatoes and gravy it'll get me there i was literally going to say chicken

01:38:39.420 or chicken fried steak and gravy so i guess that's a way to do it i think realistically

01:38:46.060 if i'm trying to like eat my feelings i don't go to the savory i go to the sweet and i'll

01:38:53.180 kill a half gallon ice cream mint chocolate chip that's the way to go um if i'm feeling sick

01:39:00.300 it my cure is an extra large um chicken bacon ranch pizza from domino's whoa what you gotta

01:39:12.840 go hard blasting it with the carbs and the fats and it will it'll cure you um

01:39:19.980 trust me it's the thing i i uh speaking in that context like i love i'm not a big sweets guy but

01:39:29.300 do love ice cream with black coffee kind of eat the ice cream and sip the black coffee and it

01:39:35.060 mixes i think i got that for my father and for sickness yeah i'm a consomme or broth kind of

01:39:42.180 just so i appreciate the icelanders for their language not for their culinary choices i think

01:39:50.420 some kind of lunacy i also like you don't like the delicious sweet energy drinks you only like

01:39:58.020 the miami colo like you like diet i love that's doing it wrong um there has to be a light to dark

01:40:12.420 uh you know here's the thing and i'm going to speak first on it because i want to make sure

01:40:16.580 some stuff's not misunderstood um speck in your spawn can you speak on the concept of the iron

01:40:24.980 here you are being chosen and and the prefix vowel meaning chosen and not slain so it it does

01:40:35.060 absolutely mean slang valor means that specifically like battlefield dead it means slain in that a lot

01:40:46.820 vow which obviously they share a linguistic connection does one of the meanings of vow is

01:40:54.820 chosen but i want to make sure none of us are saying the astro focus assembly is not saying

01:41:01.940 that it does not mean slang it does it has it may have additional implications

01:41:09.220 it's fine if you would like to clarify yeah no i think so you know i could yammer on about

01:41:15.060 lore details but i think you cut right into the bone of it it's not that we're saying one can

01:41:21.460 is not and the other is and a lot of people kind of go that direction no it is plus we're also going

01:41:28.500 to see it in a chapter coming up here and i wanted to talk about that when we got there but the usage

01:41:35.620 and understanding of words um much like the younger futhark every rune in the scandinavian uh futharks

01:41:44.740 that were used had multiple meanings and this is a concept amongst the nordic culture

01:41:52.500 that is understood it's not understood by us a lot of the time um because we want those

01:41:58.980 classifications we want those words brought in but oftentimes words had multiple meanings

01:42:04.820 i knew about this uh i kind of stumbled on this concept is that i have uh an aunt and her name

01:42:12.580 is Vallabyark. And so it's not war slain birch tree. It's the chosen tree, the special tree,

01:42:24.120 the kind of, as she described it, the lone tree on a hill. It's elevated and it's by itself.

01:42:31.560 So therefore, it's special. It's noteworthy. And so there are other meanings that can be attached.

01:42:41.300 and when someone just gives singular translations sometimes, they may be just selling it a little

01:42:47.660 short. Obviously, we spoke about the psychopomp, and we talked about how Lord Tyr is the lord of

01:42:55.760 victory and of the temples, but in a Midgarther-ordered sense and driving towards order,

01:43:04.780 And I'm not saying that Lord Odin isn't, but there is a significance that's placed in Lord Odin religiously that is different than Mortir, and that is the ferrying of the soul.

01:43:20.520 And it's done through agency of the Valkyrie.

01:43:27.220 The Valkyrie are extensions of Lord Odin, and he initiates this transcendence.

01:43:35.120 But that's why our church believes in post-death, going into the land of the dead, passing through the veil, and then being elevated by deeds.

01:43:53.220 this has two functions. One is that it allows you to incorporate and to gain an understanding

01:44:01.720 from your ancestors, to connect with them one last time, and then your deeds, the words of your

01:44:07.320 deeds. And also, too, ultimately, it is already ordained. It is just the process is happening,

01:44:13.980 and then you are ascended up. And we see very little of this because I think by this time,

01:44:21.440 the conceptualization from Snorri and Saimondur and all the other sages that were working on this

01:44:28.520 was they were really hitting the difference between the current time, where, again, the

01:44:36.900 current time was you hold to the covenant and you keep your promise and your individual soul

01:44:45.080 is then saved and you don't get to go into Gehenna, the valley of fire in Israel.

01:44:52.820 I think they were fascinated by the great veracity of the soul being ascended through battle.

01:45:03.880 And there's, it's just slight nuances like that, that end up overshadowing the other meanings of

01:45:09.780 the name vowel chosen exceptional singled out which could still very much have connotation to

01:45:18.340 battle that doesn't lose that but it being there it's worth noting that it isn't always just

01:45:28.920 i stepped onto a battlefield uh i'm going to valhalla it's there's a point and to go even

01:45:37.260 further there is the act of choosing the verb point of vallur or val which lord odin is the

01:45:47.100 father so he is the choosing father this again is still the same point the valkyr the carriers of

01:45:57.720 the sling the carriers of the chosen there is a willful element that he is the psychopomp of the

01:46:04.960 soul, bringing ones that he has chosen into ascendancy. So nowhere along the chain doesn't

01:46:13.260 deviate either. It's just worth noting, I think that there was just a misinterpretation that it

01:46:19.480 was only those who died in battle. And I think it's worth getting away from that. But at the

01:46:27.840 same time, people who hear that are like, so you, you don't believe in that at all. And it has to

01:46:33.940 be so one-sided that they can't conceptualize this. No, we mean all of that. Plus, perhaps

01:46:42.880 more, an understanding that the gods have that we don't. Who knows?

01:46:54.380 All right. Are there interest payments on the Freishoff mortgage?

01:47:03.940 yes um yeah we took out a loan from a member of a very significant amount and we

01:47:17.460 um i'd have to check for the specifics but whatever the at the time the

01:47:24.660 i don't know standard or competitive interest rate was um we are way ahead on that so we're

01:47:34.500 avoiding quite a bit of interest by paying off as fast as we are but yes there are interest payments

01:47:40.260 being made um so the next one i read that olden should be approached sparingly is there any truth

01:47:52.100 to that spawn um absolutely that there is truth to that um i think there could be some logical

01:48:04.860 earthly explanations as about how divinity um interacted in the lives of our ancestors

01:48:11.960 throughout whether it's um you know the stone age the bronze age etc um there is always a sense of

01:48:22.360 approaching all of the gods uh however the friendliness the the communion between lord

01:48:32.220 thor and the folk is clearly much more jovial uh i think this has a couple of things to do with

01:48:38.600 death um and the mystery that is um again being able to choose the slain to um you are gaining

01:48:48.400 victory after victory after victory and then axe to the head um it's because lord odin has

01:48:58.660 decreed thus so you can't hold to some preconceived notion that you know like buddy christ you know

01:49:10.840 it's like buddy uh ovin and that somehow this may uh spare you from the machinations of the one who

01:49:20.360 sees everything from all angles um so i think it's speaking predominantly more about not falling into

01:49:30.120 the falsehood of thinking that there's some way you can alleviate yourself from the reality of

01:49:40.520 all of the weird or or law or fate being woven you can have a deep and uh all residing love or

01:49:51.240 respect for lord odin but never think that somehow this makes you uh beyond reproach in everything

01:50:03.460 that's going on. So the wariness is that element of, um, having great love for Lord Oven, but

01:50:12.000 knowing that your breath is not promised and that the guidance and the weaving of everything going

01:50:20.140 on can sever you from Midgard. And so it is better to focus on your deeds as proof of what you're

01:50:30.040 doing and, uh, or recovering from bad deeds, um, is noted. It's, it's important. It's not that you

01:50:41.280 spiral out on something or fail on something. And now you're doomed forever. What it is is that you

01:50:49.260 have to turn things around despite doom, which is what the holy gods are doing with Ragnarok

01:50:58.180 looming on the horizon, no matter what it is. So there is a sense of that. And I think that

01:51:07.440 there's perhaps more friendlier relationships that are spoken of that our ancestors had

01:51:14.120 with certain ous and certain ous in you. But like a king, there is never a sense at a point

01:51:24.420 where you get so loose that you can just rib jab and joke there's always a hanging

01:51:33.080 air of respect there's something that should stop you from treating lord odin as if he was

01:51:44.360 your buddy or something that you can't do that and the moment you do that it really

01:51:52.820 gives a telltale sign as to where you're at. And you can come back, you can recalibrate, but I'm a

01:51:59.900 big kind of promoter of hierarchy. And I know where I stand. I could elevate myself amongst my

01:52:12.560 folk, but I know where I stand. And I think that everywhere that there is points of respect and

01:52:21.760 and duty and honor and things that are gained,

01:52:24.900 it is very important that you give those honors.

01:52:30.780 And it's, I think people's ego stands in the way.

01:52:34.480 And I'm not saying deny your ego, 0.98

01:52:37.880 but what I am saying is it is very foolish to presume, 0.97

01:52:41.400 or actually I would say assume, 0.81

01:52:43.920 that you are somehow on level with Lord Odin

01:52:50.380 or that uh lord odin was once a human and so therefore you have some uh kind of in to become

01:52:59.860 some faustian ubermensch um instead you should realize that uh there is a level beyond you

01:53:09.920 and you should give that respect as you carry the breath the on within you um and you did not give

01:53:17.880 breath and on to the folk it's very very important respecting

01:53:27.320 yeah i

01:53:31.960 there are

01:53:36.280 i think there are misunderstandings that

01:53:38.600 got baked into modern aussitrue early on that are hard to move away from

01:53:49.800 and this one cuts kind of both ways so

01:54:00.280 there was initially this heavy focus on like being scared of like you don't mention him but in the

01:54:08.360 most like you know you wouldn't even want to mention by name you like use euphemisms and things

01:54:19.800 we're not gonna call him yahweh we call him elohim it's like that yeah you gotta like

01:54:27.960 there was this uh taboo amongst a lot of early al-satuar to not want to invoke him by using his

01:54:36.040 name to be like hyper cautious because he's super scary or whatever

01:54:43.240 or you have the flippant vapid universalists that

01:54:53.640 treat their whatever level of sincerity their belief might have as if the gods because their

01:55:01.000 buddy like the dude next door like they're passing the potato chips or whatever and

01:55:09.080 both of them i think are wrong um

01:55:15.960 never ever ever forget that our gods are gods you can have

01:55:23.560 love for them you can have familiarity with them in the sense that you have built a relationship

01:55:33.320 over time but there's never equality there's never casualness you are always interacting with or

01:55:48.120 seeking to interact with gods and that is very important that they're always approached with the

01:55:56.200 respect and the dignity due to gods in the best way that you understand that um

01:56:07.800 just because you talk at odin doesn't mean he is listening to you or cares he may he may not

01:56:18.120 i think that it is more foolish than it is scary or whatever else to be overly approaching in about

01:56:29.480 meaningless things and the other thing

01:56:33.400 it lessens the importance of when you do it if you're just so casual with it that

01:56:39.000 it's a constant barrage of stuff so i would never want any of our folk that seek sincere relationship

01:56:52.120 with the gods to feel held back from doing that or to feel that there is a barrier between them

01:57:00.520 attempting to reach out and honor their gods or to give prayer to their gods

01:57:07.180 but you never want to do that casually and without the dignity that's required of it

01:57:14.960 um also jeffrey in texas donated ten dollars towards the uh sigerheim pavilion and ten

01:57:24.900 dollars towards paying off raise funds so thank you for that jeffrey we appreciate it

01:57:29.180 All right, well, we have a little bit more, so let's do, let's talk about number 42.

01:57:52.560 the Aesir broke their oath to the fortification builder. Svan, would you like to take us through

01:58:01.340 that? Absolutely. One of the things is that, and I don't know where this comes from, but there are

01:58:08.800 folk in Ausatru who, again, approaching Lord Odin with weariness, and there is this sense,

01:58:16.280 um especially with uh the universalists or those who uh try to honor the kinslayer oh well um

01:58:27.160 lord odin broke his oaths as well so in this is a prime example in the the old norse it's

01:58:39.000 It's Aesir, Ruvur, Eida, Sina, Au, Björkermithunum.

01:58:47.900 The Björkermithunum is the stone mountain smith kind of lending more towards his yachting side that is hidden.

01:59:04.100 And the word rufu, rufu and rivia has many, many meanings to tear apart, to break down, or to poke a hole.

01:59:19.420 So I think that what this is really referring to is finding a loophole in our terms is kind of the equivalency.

01:59:31.820 Finding a weak spot that punches through, and it's clear that it's the trickery of the mason.

01:59:40.820 The mason does not present himself correctly, nor does he present his horse.

01:59:48.180 So the terms of the oath are laid out without full understanding.

01:59:56.520 Now, again, the stories and the reflection of these things versus the gods, I think, as metaphysical cosmic beings is where we find kind of the separation here.

02:00:16.420 There is an injecting force that is proclaiming to be able to guard the gods after their great war with the gods of the earth and of water and natural law.

02:00:32.860 And so there is a need, and that need brings forth this injecting power, and that injecting power has a price.

02:00:41.700 and there is much to be learned from this but the details between this pad out in concepts

02:00:50.200 that our ancestors would be very familiar with the idea of someone coming to work for you and

02:00:57.060 make an agreement and then they turn that agreement because of whatever reasons it's it's a

02:01:02.780 it's a very kind of visceral subject. And this is how it plays out. But to be fair,

02:01:14.060 I think that there are often too many folk who turn on the gods and say that the gods did this

02:01:21.500 and the gods did that without fully considering translation and perspective. It was seen to them

02:01:30.900 that there was something amiss that was not out in the open is that not trickery is that not

02:01:39.080 poking a hole in the oath or or utilizing some sort of uh cheat um and so you could look at this

02:01:47.900 but really what it tells me is that there's a person that's just desperately trying to turn

02:01:54.900 the aha um you know it's it's going against the establishment so i i see that all too often so the

02:02:09.620 poke a hole or find a loophole or broke their oath to the fortification builder

02:02:16.420 Then said Gangliri, Who owns that horse, Sleipnir? Or what is to be said of him?

02:02:27.280 Haur answered, Thou hast no knowledge of Sleipnir's points, and thou knowest not the circumstances of his begetting?

02:02:34.580 But it will seem to thee worth the telling.

02:02:37.640 It was early in the first days of the gods' dwelling here when the gods had established the Midgard and made Valhall.

02:02:49.240 There came at a time a certain right, a craftsman like, you know, Wainwright, Cartwright, a guild man.

02:03:04.300 So there came a certain rite, and he offered to build them a citadel in three seasons, so good that it should be staunch and proof against the hill giants and the rhyme giants.

02:03:22.980 We spoke about that too. The mountain, they use the word mountain. Here the translation is hill. And then grime or ice giants. Though they should come in over Midgard. That's another point. Here our ancestors, the gods are in the center upon the mountain.

02:03:42.140 When they come in to attack the heavenly realm, they're not climbing up the floating tree to get to the Christmas bulb on the tree that is the heavenly realm.

02:03:56.280 we see orientation here is they cross over the middle world to get to the center and upwards

02:04:04.760 so that they can try to tear down the elevated, the sanctified, the higher. So

02:04:13.460 they should come in over Midgard. But he demanded as wages that he should have 0.90

02:04:21.220 for his work, the possession of Freyja, and would fain have both the sun and the moon.

02:04:31.480 Again, this is very interesting, the usage of the sun and the moon and not Sol and Mauni,

02:04:38.560 because they are presiders over the primordial spark of Muspelheim, the shard of Nifelheim.

02:04:47.480 But again, knowing that these things were so important for the gods and for the folk to take them would be catastrophic.

02:05:00.520 Obviously, we know scientifically it would be catastrophic, but mythically, it would be to cast everything into darkness. 0.99

02:05:09.680 A Jotun is pretending to be a simple stonesmith, and his end result is to steal the beauty and the passion of the gods and to leave everything in darkness. 0.99

02:05:30.360 So, then the Isir held Parley and took counsel together, and a bargain was made with the right. 1.00

02:05:39.680 that he should have that which he demanded 0.92

02:05:43.520 if he should succeed in completing the citadel in one winter.

02:05:50.540 On the first day of summer,

02:05:52.640 if any part of the citadel were left unfinished,

02:05:55.800 he should lose his reward

02:05:57.540 and he was to receive help from no man in his work.

02:06:01.920 When they told him of these conditions,

02:06:04.300 he asked that they would give him leave

02:06:06.680 to get help from his stallion, which was called Svadilfari, and Loki advised it so that the

02:06:22.680 rites petition would be granted that he could bring his horse in. He set up to work the first

02:06:31.020 day of winter to make the citadel, and by night he hauled stones with the stallion's aid, and it

02:06:37.560 seemed very marvelous to the Iser what great rocks this horse could draw. For the horse did more

02:06:45.400 rough work by half than did by the right. But there were strong witnesses to their bargain,

02:06:52.840 and many oaths, since it seemed unsafe to the giant to be amongst the Iser without truce. 0.99

02:07:01.020 That's another point. It is referred in the story that he is in disguise, where here is presented by his true nature.

02:07:11.740 And that could create some confusion, but it is very much so that he is not simply a Jotun, but kind of guised in a softer sense.

02:07:25.260 And just as he would be weary amongst the gods, so too are the gods weary of him. So allowing him to do it at all, he's relenting some of his identities, hiding it, he's obscuring it.

02:07:42.240 So, obviously, he has a strong weariness since it seemed unsafe to the giant to be amongst the Isir without truce if Thor should come home. 0.66

02:07:57.440 And this is another part of the story that Lord Thor is not home at the time. That's why Lord Thor has haiti, like ein rieder, or hlo rieder, meaning rider, lone or singular rider, or loud rider. 0.85

02:08:16.720 But it is the idea of the going down to the earth, riding the edges of Midgard, keeping things in balance.

02:08:27.260 So he's not currently there.

02:08:31.120 But Thor had then gone away into the eastern region to fight trolls, demons.

02:08:37.080 He's out slaying demons.

02:08:38.640 and I could go on about the usage of the word demon

02:08:44.260 and how in a Christian context it's Shadim 0.97

02:08:47.780 that's what before the

02:08:51.180 it was Aramaic and Hebrew

02:08:55.340 and they used the word demon as a translation

02:08:59.560 now when the winter drew nigh unto its end

02:09:06.180 the building of the citadel was far advanced. It was so high and strong that it could not

02:09:12.860 be taken. When it lacked three days of summer, the work had almost reached the gate of the

02:09:20.000 stronghold, so fully around and now coming to the other side of the gate. Then the gods sat down in

02:09:26.740 their judgment seats and sought means of evasion and asked one another who had advised giving

02:09:34.480 Freya into Jotunheim, or so destroying the air and the heaven as to take thence the sun and the moon

02:09:44.400 and give them to him, to the giants. The gods agreed that he must have counseled this who is 0.79

02:09:53.240 want to give evil advice, and they looked to Loki Lauferson, and they declared him deserving of an

02:10:02.960 ill death if he could not hit upon a way of losing the right and his wages and they threatened loki

02:10:12.000 with violence so in the the difference between the stories here is one is there's a disguise

02:10:18.080 and then uh loki has to make a correction figure out a way and in this one it's very clear that

02:10:27.280 it's it's held upon him since he was the one that encouraged the the the movement to settle

02:10:34.880 bear in mind too this is very much a story sense and of of uh framework that's utilized

02:10:43.840 in nordic poetry quite often the best way to to think about this too is like the forging of

02:10:50.560 mjolnir mjolnir is forged in the nordic stories but is lacking a proper handle because of certain

02:10:59.440 reasons so it's perfect but holding a flaw that will have significance mjolnir was not uh perceived

02:11:10.000 to have a short handle in anglo-saxon uh also through faith generally you would see the medallions

02:11:18.320 of Mjolnir on a long handle. And there's no real reference, except in the Bronze Age, to being

02:11:25.520 axes. But there is a unique poetic detail from the Nordic folk that brings in the idea that

02:11:35.080 there is something that is perfect at what it does, but because it is not complete or completely

02:11:42.200 perfect, it is detrimental. We also see this in Gaulish or Celtic myths when it relating to

02:11:48.680 weapons or even Kings losing their arm and having to gain it back. So therefore they are not

02:11:56.400 perfect, but have to go through the trials of these things, or they have point in the story.

02:12:03.220 so um they said he deserves an ill death if he could not hit upon a way of losing the right

02:12:15.780 and his wages they threatened loki with violence but when he became frightened

02:12:21.500 then he swore oaths that he would contrive that the right should lose his wages cost him what it

02:12:30.200 might. That same evening, when the rite drove out after the stone with the stallion, Svadlfari,

02:12:39.700 a mare suddenly bound forth from a certain wood in heaven and whinnied to him.

02:12:50.680 The stallion, perceiving what manner of horse this was straight away, became frantic and snapped

02:12:58.100 the traces asunder and leaped over to the mare and she away to the wood and the right after

02:13:05.460 striving to seize the stallion these horses ran all night and the right stopped there that night

02:13:13.420 and afterward at day the work was not done as it had been before when the right saw that the work

02:13:20.780 could not be brought to an end he fell into a giant's fury now that the isir surely uh saw

02:13:29.900 surely that the hill giant had was come thither they did not regard their oaths reverently but

02:13:37.420 called upon thor who came as quickly and straight away the hammer mjolnir was raised aloft and he

02:13:45.900 paid the rights wages and not with the sun and the moon nay he even denied him dwelling in jotunheim

02:13:53.660 and struck but the first one first blow so that his skull was burst into small crumbs and sent

02:14:01.980 him down below underneath hell they're showing a cyclical soul cycle of the yachtins because again

02:14:14.700 we've spoken about how nothing truly is simply eradicated in, in the, as Baldr resides with the

02:14:25.120 folk and for his return. And I postulated the idea that Nidagar is the soul of Ymir. Nothing simply

02:14:35.620 vanishes um so he his his sent his soul below and deep into the primordial matter of nivel

02:14:48.220 nivel hell but loki had such dealings with svadolfari dealings that somewhat later he

02:14:56.300 gave birth to a fowl which was gray and had eight feet and this horse is best amongst the gods and

02:15:05.280 men so it is said in the volospal then all the power strode to the seats of judgment the most

02:15:12.620 holy gods council held together who had the heir all with evil envenomed or to the etan race

02:15:22.300 others made given other is freya's husband broken with the oaths then bond and swearing

02:15:33.140 pledges all sacred, which passed between them. Thor alone, smote there, swollen with anger.

02:15:40.480 He seldom sits still when such he hears of. Or one of the translations too, I always am reminded

02:15:49.320 of, seldom does he sit where oaths are broken. But it is the, I think the way that it is written

02:15:57.720 is to encourage the folk to stand up for the gods and say no he broke the oath by his deception

02:16:07.160 and you can find very quickly where the loyalty of one differs from the kind of uh backbiting or

02:16:17.640 turning on the gods and and uh you know not so truffle to the gods and saying that you know

02:16:25.200 loki's just a victim and and the gods are really just big you know meanies they're they're the 0.75

02:16:33.040 the football they're not the underdog and and i think that's very very ridiculous considering

02:16:39.360 the entire scope but they'll they'll sectionalize it for the sake of their they're um trying to

02:16:46.480 create reason to do that. And that's really sad. Another thing is that the benefit of

02:16:55.720 the creation of Sleipnir. Sleipnir is clearly not normal. The extra legs. But in this case,

02:17:09.160 It's not so egregious that that value cannot be utilized.

02:17:14.380 The slipping one given to Lord Odin with the ability to slip between the worlds

02:17:19.780 because that transference has power and weight.

02:17:24.680 But it would absolutely be understood that the fact that Loki went from what he is

02:17:33.140 to the other side transferring between means he's uh unstable he is un um you're unable to entirely

02:17:45.820 have faith and that there is a deviation away from order and he breaks into that chaos

02:17:57.080 to bring forth something that also helps lord odin kind of slip between the realms of order

02:18:05.340 a necessary evil but at the same time the audience would absolutely know at this point

02:18:15.140 that there's no chance of trusting the stability and of course this happens again with uh thok

02:18:22.740 when Loki turns into Thok

02:18:27.260 and does not shed a tear for him.

02:18:30.340 So again, another point in which he shifts over

02:18:33.660 from the masculine that he is to the feminine

02:18:36.260 and just reemphasizes that instability and cunningness

02:18:43.920 and the idea that you can't just bet on him being what he is.

02:18:52.740 Yeah, I think that there is a certain amount of nuance to it, and people cling to strange

02:19:11.340 things on it.

02:19:17.420 reiterated too many times to act like oaths weren't broken in the process of

02:19:22.400 this because I'd like to read it like the gods don't break oaths too but I

02:19:28.340 don't think that's the case but I do think there's stuff interplaying on both

02:19:32.840 sides and I think when we look at when we look at the lore there is a tendency

02:19:41.540 and so i kind of keep harkening back to these sacred cows that developed in you know the very

02:19:51.360 early days of the modern resurgence of austria to where everything is this black and white like

02:19:57.860 you never break oaths thing you shouldn't breaking oath is terrible but you weigh consequences

02:20:04.980 sometimes you have oaths that conflict sometimes you're like wow we made this agreement

02:20:11.520 but there was an x factor and this guy tricked us but we still got to find a way out of the

02:20:17.220 agreement what's interesting here there the framework of the oath

02:20:25.080 was binding regardless like you couldn't completely break the oath there wasn't the

02:20:33.420 option of like let's just not pay the guy that didn't count that wasn't a thing they had to

02:20:40.540 make it to where technically he didn't fulfill the technical contract to where there's there's

02:20:47.020 levels they couldn't have completely defaulted on the oath the idea of that was unthinkable

02:20:52.860 but to act in a forthright way they couldn't and result to trickery to get out of it because there

02:21:00.140 was trickery on the other side it's a really strange thing because again it clearly says you

02:21:05.500 know the sundering the breaking of oath a bunch of times in the text but it also the logic hole of

02:21:16.300 there was never like okay let's just not let's just have thor come and kill this guy

02:21:22.140 that's the easy thing you know they had to come up with a way to where technically he didn't get

02:21:27.740 it done in time because there was bestiality happening um you know technically this didn't work

02:21:39.020 and i think that those nuances matter having to find cunning solution out of stuff

02:21:45.500 that is the necessity and they're like okay well what we can't do and that's one of the things

02:21:51.340 that thor's so incensed about but what are you guys doing we can't you know it's not an option

02:21:59.820 to give this guy freya and the sun and like we can't do that so we have to do something else

02:22:08.700 um and i think this is one of the ones that takes a little bit of

02:22:12.860 i don't know a little bit of adult thinking more so than some of the other ones to to

02:22:22.060 rationalize one of the ones we're not as comfortable with for obvious reasons um

02:22:35.900 this also as swan was talking about there's like

02:22:38.540 there is a general association that you bear a similarity and an allegiance to your kin in your

02:22:50.780 parentage but it's interesting in the lore that loki and his children are not

02:22:58.980 everyone who's associated with loki is not necessarily malevolent or bad or you know the

02:23:09.240 enemy of the gods so it's it's also an interesting piece of our lore because there is the nuance

02:23:18.060 Sleipnir is Loki's son but he's also like the best of horses and Odin's loyal speed

02:23:30.020 and he's not a force of Loki's chaos like his brothers like his brothers are

02:23:39.300 and it's kind of an interesting example of that

02:23:42.900 um so a question that we have uh specking your swan and i'll share your gofie what do you believe

02:23:55.540 lord over them whispered in balder's ear as he lay down on his pyre

02:24:00.460 what say you spawn

02:24:06.900 i don't know um

02:24:14.500 i uh i would suspect that the possibility is

02:24:25.700 that he said, I will one day see you again.

02:24:33.500 And there's a reasoning for that, but this goes back into understanding roles.

02:24:42.360 The God of dynamicism, sitting in the throne of the dynamic in the tripartite,

02:24:49.800 being a tripartite in and of himself, and that I am a believer that Vodhin, as it is said, he was once called Vodhin, is now called Odhin,

02:25:02.400 Vili, Vey, are the same as Odin, Hjönur, and Lóður.

02:25:11.920 I do not, much like we know Yggdrasil as the forefront,

02:25:18.180 but that Lajarun is another name for Yggdrasil.

02:25:24.300 And it is worth noting then that if this is the case and that Lord Odin, a piece of himself, is lost during Ragnarok, but a piece of him remains, that is the will that triumphs through the battle,

02:25:47.880 But then becomes twice blind, losing the full other pieces, and he takes up the lots and reads the runes for the gods beyond Ragnarok.

02:26:08.320 and i think through this there is this sense of a great loss but then there is also that which

02:26:20.240 must be lost for balder to return is this i'm not saying this is legitimate in any way this is my

02:26:29.900 in belief and interpretation of that situation. Outside of that, it is obviously a poetic

02:26:40.120 kind of gotcha throughout all of the stories because it's the mystery that no one knows,

02:26:48.200 not any of the Jotnar, not any of the gods, but stepping back and observing, I tried to see

02:26:59.000 uh the panoramic and um that is my belief is that and it's ironic again since johnner becomes to be

02:27:08.280 blindy um i shall see you again but yet still he does not in a poetic sense of irony

02:27:20.920 And that's my take on that.

02:27:24.460 I guess we were talking about personal gnosis, but I mean, this is just that observation and that interconnectivity as to why the Valknaut is a symbol of Lord Odin.

02:27:40.020 And there are three conjoining pieces and that there is this essence.

02:27:46.500 And again, to consider when the holy gods, Lord Odin, if you take three as one as aspects or I guess projections of the centerpiece and look at the production of the divinity.

02:28:10.020 where um lord odin or just say like in the tripartite of himself odin and yard there is

02:28:21.220 the furious thor but the vey the temple the the holy place and freak balder and then the will and

02:28:33.380 And the correction of fate or divine setting, it kind of goes into that.

02:28:47.920 But I'm not saying that this is, I'm trying not to overstep myself because there is a sense that needs to be investigated in it.

02:29:09.420 And I am also when I say of my belief, I am very open to the understandings and the teachings numerous times where I have discussed things.

02:29:22.740 And when we came out on the other side, I had a new understanding.

02:29:27.840 But I will say I did pray to Lord Odin about this because it troubled me if I was kind of going astray or and the auguries that I did receive were telling me.

02:29:44.260 But at the same time, the edicts of the church and my personal kind of observations and beliefs are not one in the same.

02:29:56.780 but I am to align myself to the sacred center that is my church.

02:30:01.660 But as of right now, this is how I interpret much of this.

02:30:09.160 So, I think the thought process and the pondering the possibilities

02:30:22.840 or what it might have been or what it might have meant.

02:30:27.820 I think those are all valuable exercises.

02:30:30.940 I think there's a lot of elements of our lore.

02:30:33.380 I know I mention this a lot with the runes.

02:30:41.340 There is a difference between like a trivia question

02:30:45.680 where there's a right and a wrong answer

02:30:47.500 and some of these things that help us contemplate existence

02:30:51.980 in a layered and advanced way so short answer is like what did he say that's unknowable and i think

02:31:01.620 that's one of the elements in our lore because odin busts that out at some point because he's

02:31:07.920 the only one him involved and balder are the only ones that know um i think it's one of those things

02:31:16.460 that literally could be a kenning for something that is unknown um but that said the act of it

02:31:25.900 i think is special the transformative and transcendent act of sending a message

02:31:36.300 beyond the veil to return at a different time or to be united with at a different time

02:31:50.220 um also with with the armoring droutner um the

02:31:57.180 and i don't know i've been thinking while swan was answering his

02:32:04.620 of how to phrase it in a way that makes sense but there is a fundamental

02:32:13.820 transmission of things that occur during bloat and during funerary rites

02:32:23.820 that send messages and things beyond the veil in a really specific way one of the reasons that

02:32:36.000 cremation is a preferred method is that it transmits things instantly or relatively

02:32:48.120 instantly from the world living to the world beyond the veil the imagery of the fire and

02:33:00.420 you know making your offerings into the fire of doing the funeral pyre that being that life force

02:33:14.720 that intention all of that stuff is transmitted at that point is consumed by the flames goes up

02:33:24.240 in flame and smoke and vapor up to the heavens up beyond the veil um and that transmission point

02:33:34.080 i think is really thematic to a lot of the things that we do and a lot of the ways we make offerings

02:33:41.360 in a lot of the ways we do various things in our our loats to where we put things into the fire we

02:33:50.240 we burn things we burn the ship we burn uh the sun wheel we burn different things sending our

02:33:58.720 offering up um up to the land beyond the veil be it with the ancestors be it to the gods themselves

02:34:08.320 there's something in the the animal sacrifice of imbuing a living thing with those messages with

02:34:18.560 the the worship you have for those beyond the veil and then sending that with that life force

02:34:26.240 to the other side of that veil and there's something here profound about sending a message

02:34:32.640 from the land of the living into the land of the dead and you know

02:34:40.720 the eventual point of reunion where that you know follow-up conversation occurs

02:34:50.240 so i think there is a

02:34:54.720 again i don't know the right words encapsulated in a meaningful way but i do think there is a profound

02:35:00.720 sending something entrusting something into the keeping of the chthonic into the keeping of death 0.82

02:35:07.120 to be taken back and reclaimed on the other side of ragnarok on the other side of catastrophe 0.98

02:35:15.520 when that life comes back around that preservation of hope for the future of preserving ancestral

02:35:24.000 knowledge and things from the old order to make it through a time of destruction and transition

02:35:32.560 to be born anew. I see a layering that is meaningful to me thinking about

02:35:38.960 the process of our ancestors recording these things, preserving our lore for us

02:35:47.860 in a way that it transitions from the time of original Alcetru through the dark period of

02:35:57.580 Christianization where Alcetru didn't exist in any, you know, significant way to be there for

02:36:07.260 us waiting to hear these stories anew and refresh and restart it when the founding generation of

02:36:18.060 modern house of truth breathed new life into our trough to the icer and brought our people back

02:36:26.940 and i think that theme carried out the specific words i don't think that we can though i don't

02:36:32.860 Thanks for the world.

02:36:36.780 I wanted to say, there was a comment, you know, read the Halvamal, we are allowed to lie to enemies if we think there might be good gotten from them.

02:36:47.440 And I wanted to point out some things there.

02:36:50.940 In the Halvamal, there are three stanzas that really kind of encapsulate what was being said there.

02:36:59.600 But there is a key factor. It's not the label of enemy that allows to give falsehoods. It is in 42, to his friend a man should be and gifts with gift requite.

02:37:20.960 So those who are in sharing and having the gift cycle, laughter with laughter men should receive, but leasing with lying.

02:37:33.320 So it must be initiated.

02:37:36.800 There must be a falsehood predicating.

02:37:39.880 And I think that this plays out perfectly in this story.

02:37:42.840 There is a falsehood.

02:37:45.220 Another important one, again, these are the 42, 43, and 44.

02:37:50.960 43 is, to his friend a man should be, to him and to his friend, but of his foe no man shall be a friend to.

02:38:01.980 And that is really important about making the clarity that you're not a friend of your friend's enemy.

02:38:11.920 That relinquishes what it means to be a friend to you.

02:38:17.080 And so there is a clear standing of when someone initiates the fallacy of the oath by lying, you can meet that in kind, but it is not based solely on a definition.

02:38:34.280 um because anyone then could could define and it and it's it kind of is reminiscent of um some

02:38:44.560 uh like rabbinical texts that i've heard about where they you know it's okay to do that or even

02:38:50.420 in islamic texts where it's okay to do that um because they're not us um i think still the

02:38:56.900 nobility of going forward even with people who aren't us and being noble in character is very

02:39:04.960 important but the moment that there is a level of where they diminish their side there is no

02:39:12.340 requirement for the noble soul to just bear that no you then okay the game has now shifted

02:39:19.680 and I will meet in kind.

02:39:23.860 And I also, and I'm glad that you bring that up

02:39:27.900 because I do think it encapsulates

02:39:29.640 the explanation of this particular story

02:39:32.700 in a way that I didn't, that works well.

02:39:44.200 Trickery sucks and isn't noble and awesome. 0.90

02:39:48.340 And I think that's why they talk. There's like the big oath breaking of not doing the thing or like, ah, let's just screw it and cheat the guy. 0.99

02:40:01.480 But they still talk about it like oath breaking because they're having to resort to being shifty.

02:40:09.080 They do fulfill the things. They just have to resort to underhanded trickery.

02:40:13.680 and it is predicated by this guy disguising himself and disguising his identity as we know

02:40:20.300 in the other source material but that's a really important distinction that I think it's easy to

02:40:28.700 miss and I'm glad you pointed out I saw that comment too doesn't say you just get to lie to

02:40:34.100 enemies you can repay lies with lies but that's them initiating the ignoble behavior and you

02:40:44.900 responding in kind it's not well if it furthers whatever you know you can lie to people who aren't 0.93

02:40:54.180 islamic or you can lie to you know goyim because it doesn't count or whatever it's not the same 0.83

02:41:02.260 we do see it used and we recognize the stench of it when we see it that that's ignoble and we don't 1.00

02:41:10.820 like that so yes tactically if you're you know you don't have to fight the game with one hand

02:41:18.500 tied behind your back when someone else is you know using deception with you you can use it back

02:41:26.260 but that's they're the they're the bad guy for initiating don't be that guy

02:41:35.700 and i think that there's a natural

02:41:40.660 human draw to look for the opportunity to like justify bad behavior don't don't do that we have

02:41:50.340 so much more source material about being honorable and being straightforward and being truthful as a

02:41:57.140 hallmark of existence which is what makes it stand out the rare occasion where there's trickery

02:42:05.460 don't make the exception the rule because of that pull that same pull as that entropy

02:42:11.140 that pulls towards chaos don't look for the excuse to act badly

02:42:15.700 realize that that's a last resort thing that you do if other people are

02:42:22.180 are using that towards you um and another uh thing that was asked over on the side that i

02:42:30.420 figured i'd throw in there we still get questions about reincarnation this is another one that is a

02:42:37.060 a thing that happened in the early days of modern Ausitru that when people repeat it

02:42:47.720 enough, it becomes difficult to break people away from it.

02:42:56.200 So the idea of one-for-one reincarnation that, oh, what happens when you die?

02:43:00.820 Oh, will you come back through the line of your ancestors?

02:43:07.000 That's not how it works.

02:43:09.860 And to say that it can't possibly work that way ever is a step too far.

02:43:16.360 But to suggest that that is the common occurrence to those that pass is just not true.

02:43:26.320 and i think that really thinking about it we know that that's not true but it is something

02:43:33.120 that says we just kind of say it over and over again and i want to explain my reasoning on that

02:43:39.680 a little bit because i think it's important we don't see that we see that in the uh helgi uh

02:43:47.600 hunting spain uh cycle we see that exactly in that spot and that's where we see it we see it

02:43:56.000 with a very specific couple through a few generations but we don't see that as the standard

02:44:01.600 occurrence um we don't see people referencing their past lives we don't see people in the

02:44:10.640 history of our ancestors making common claim that you know i have legitimacy here because

02:44:18.560 in a former life i was this ancestor or that ancestor or this person of importance

02:44:24.800 it doesn't get spoken about now we don't see people acting as though that's the case either

02:44:32.320 and the logic of it breaks the cult of the ancestors so we give offerings

02:44:42.400 the gift cycle the willful participation of the gift cycle between all the parties involved in

02:44:49.120 this instance between us and the ancestors is an essential part of our faith

02:44:57.040 i can't make offerings to my grandfather

02:45:02.000 at my altar and him sharing that gift cycle if he's not beyond the veil but he's really the kid

02:45:10.240 down at walmart it doesn't work that way it just doesn't make sense and to contrast it

02:45:18.160 there are faiths that do believe that 100 and they act accordingly like um with the buddhists

02:45:26.880 like they have to go find the new reincarnation of the dalai lama they have to go like do the thing

02:45:34.640 that i say comically they would go try to find a kid at walmart that's really my reincarnated

02:45:40.560 grandfather and figure that out because those things really do matter when it's a sincere

02:45:45.360 belief we just don't see that we've never seen that but what we do see and what is interesting

02:45:53.040 and unique and i don't say unique maybe it's not i'm not sure where other people are at but

02:46:00.720 it is a special feature about true is that we have a multi-part soul

02:46:07.360 there are absolutely portions of your soul that you do and you can bequeath through your family

02:46:15.120 line um and beyond to a degree if you are naming someone and there's other ways but that is a

02:46:24.640 specific way to try to call for some of that dead person to be imbued in that child by naming them

02:46:35.040 after someone and that's not as if that per they become that other person but it is as if they get

02:46:44.160 an inheritance from that person they get some of that person's soul in the form of luck or in the

02:46:51.120 form of of memories or in the form of you know perhaps exhibiting a special skill that that

02:46:58.400 person had or developing good characteristics that were so prominent in that person

02:47:06.800 we know that we inherit many things from our ancestors certainly we look in the mirror and

02:47:12.160 we see our ancestors there we inherit a genetic inheritance but you also can get that inheritance

02:47:19.920 you know people say oh if there's not reincarnation then how come this kid you know there's these

02:47:24.240 stories of these kids that have memories they shouldn't have and you know know things they

02:47:29.520 shouldn't know or have a striking personality resemblance all those things can absolutely get

02:47:39.520 passed down without them taking away from that individuality and we talk

02:47:46.240 about that individuality that's so important is what we started with

02:47:51.100 talking about the Einherjar you don't do that one-for-one passing yourself into

02:48:00.940 your future great-grandchild into whatever if you did then our cult of the

02:48:06.880 ancestors and our ancestral worship would lose a lot of its meaning um that said again

02:48:17.120 the gods are the gods and they are mysterious and they are powerful in a way beyond our comprehension

02:48:25.680 if the gods choose that in a special circumstance this special person be reborn

02:48:31.520 at a special time of the God's choosing,

02:48:35.580 then sure, they can absolutely do that.

02:48:37.520 Who am I to say they could not?

02:48:40.420 But I think that the common sense and the understanding

02:48:43.560 just tells us that's not the standard operation of that.

02:48:52.720 And I think that a real thought-out version of it

02:48:57.360 kind of makes that make sense.

02:48:59.220 And I think we act instinctively in the way I'm describing, but we still get caught saying

02:49:05.440 that that's a thing because so-and-so said it was a thing and a guy in 1975 said it was

02:49:12.900 a thing.

02:49:13.420 So it's a thing.

02:49:14.920 And that's not to be disrespectful to the wisdom of those who came before us, but it

02:49:19.640 is to say that sometimes you get things from an earlier stage where people knew less than

02:49:25.320 they do now that are oft repeated so much that they become these sacred cows that we just say

02:49:32.040 over and over again we don't really think about them we just say them and i think it's important

02:49:39.320 and i think it's it's we got to be fair so it's not like i can look at people who are doing this

02:49:47.000 before me and like ah those fools i i know the right way to do it i would encourage everyone

02:49:53.320 to look back on stuff I say or positions that I hold and just go through the check of all right 0.88

02:50:02.060 does that hold up why did he think that then should we still think that now it's worth doing

02:50:10.000 that it doesn't mean you have to dismiss everything out of hand but you should re-evaluate

02:50:15.080 from time to time why we do a thing we do and it doesn't have to be big things as if they're

02:50:20.580 they're pass fail or right and wrong sometimes is this the best way to do something well

02:50:28.660 we've been doing it for a while and it's been okay cool why do we start doing it that way

02:50:35.540 are those conditions still there if we had it all do over again would we start doing it the same way

02:50:42.180 if not why not if we do something different how would it be different and how would it be similar

02:50:49.300 but rethinking those things if we're on the right track it should reaffirm and strengthen those

02:50:56.180 positions and if we're not it should help us to recalibrate so that we can be closer to

02:51:08.500 closer to right closer to the perfection that we would like to always get closer and closer and

02:51:14.580 closer towards uh siphon do you have anything to add on that i think that this will be our last

02:51:21.620 last kind of question deal for the night

02:51:30.580 siphon you are muted and you have been muted since you started

02:51:38.180 dang it i was gonna say if anybody has some sort of objection to this

02:51:43.940 then consider thus right out the gate we know that there is a part of our soul we call it the leak

02:51:51.300 that is lost that is not transferred so the totality of the soul complex is

02:52:02.900 lost and cannot be returned in the uh iteration so right away we're speaking about the uh

02:52:12.100 segmenting the traversing and so there can't be the totality of of one for one but we also see

02:52:21.940 other things is that there are elements that uh that are referenced in the sagas the dsir

02:52:30.260 are able to turn off or turn on the hamina suggesting that there is this connectivity

02:52:36.980 that perhaps when you know the humming is passed down to the children it's not necessarily an

02:52:43.540 encapsulated piece but a connective piece to the totality of the humming of the of the family

02:52:50.740 or the folk um or perhaps there are levels to which you can gain access to humming and also

02:52:57.220 have it turned off if the ancestors gave memories uh to gave the specifically the mini of the soul

02:53:10.900 to a child coming forth does that child is that child totally and wholly

02:53:19.620 the uh ancestor that the memories come from well we've already started with the fact that the body

02:53:28.300 is gone so no the answer is not just obviously no does it have advantage i do believe that there is

02:53:35.280 a reasoning why the ancestors do these things i think there's benefit too but we are looking at

02:53:43.180 things two dimensionally and i think that we should look at them in a varied form that the

02:53:49.700 memories give advantage that the ancestors are able to send and somehow whatever the process may

02:53:59.760 be there is this ascension whether the ascension is to remain in the heavenly realm by decree of

02:54:06.340 the gods. In that case, I believe their wholeness as a soul does go up there. And I also believe

02:54:14.220 that if that is the case, say the ascension, but they are then allocated to be a de-seer

02:54:21.800 and move kind of more into the in-between, like the leos al-har, and they are decreed to watch

02:54:29.720 over their entirety of their bloodline. This is, again, another special advantage to have.

02:54:36.340 To be denied that or to have no one of any merit to become a D-Seer or an Alvar is a sad thing.

02:54:43.980 So it is really about creating, I think, an elevation that presides around the living and corporeal soul.

02:54:56.360 And the soul is unique.

02:54:59.080 The memories can be added in.

02:55:01.080 the um the likeliness and i would say that would kind of go with the hammer the hammer kind of

02:55:08.140 shaping the body um because obviously it's not body is not one for one but it is a part of the

02:55:15.460 soul it is the vehicle but when the hammer comes from one point to another it can have the physical

02:55:23.200 effect the metagenetic effect but right out the gate it's never seen as a one for one it's never

02:55:30.820 seen as a, you die and come back as a, you know, some other people. So there is the track of blood

02:55:40.120 and interconnectivity. And that interconnectivity is also not always like people will say, Oh,

02:55:45.840 it's just like, if I have kids, I'll be able to send pieces of my soul down the line, or I'm

02:55:52.820 going to come back but if you don't have children and your siblings do and for whatever reason you

02:56:01.760 can send pieces if by whatever process that is because again I'm not claiming to know

02:56:08.820 if you get the chance to give benefit to your descendancy that can happen laterally and then

02:56:17.640 down. So bear that in mind as well. But you should take great care in who you couple with.

02:56:24.960 You should take great care because sometimes there is, I think, also negative aspects that

02:56:31.120 are kind of carried down the line. And perhaps that is to work it out or to somehow expunge it

02:56:40.520 from uh the the soul in uh beyond the veil and so i don't know because i don't have recollection

02:56:55.540 and i i i guess i'll figure it out when i walk hell's road if i am not blessed to be um taken

02:57:05.400 up. But either way, at the end of the day, knowing that the soul, I think that once Ragnarok happens

02:57:17.060 and the fact that Leif and Leif Throsser, life and the will to live, is descendancy in potential,

02:57:26.440 that we can then send through again the gifts and create the exchange.

02:57:34.600 So much like we make exchange with the divine and the, and we do this through material.

02:57:40.000 We do this through sacrificing things that are important to us so that we can build this

02:57:46.200 relationship with divinity.

02:57:48.300 And the gods have already given in the sense of their breath and of their desire to defend

02:57:54.720 that which they have shaped, they have sacrificed, we have sacrificed. So that would lend to believe

02:58:01.840 that once we pass through the veil, there is a willful indication that we can sacrifice and

02:58:09.180 build relationship by giving to the upper world, perhaps for the benefit of the middle world,

02:58:16.140 but it would require a price. And that price might be the memory. That price might be the luck. 0.67

02:58:24.720 of the individual beyond the veil to affect the descendancy in Midgard. And there goes the

02:58:34.380 exchange, because what makes the value of gifting is the sacrifice of exchange.

02:58:43.680 And I think that it's not really so much a problem on other people. I don't think it's a bad thing.

02:58:48.700 I just think that, like Azir Gauthier said, they're just looking at it very flatly.

02:58:53.720 And if we look at the cult of ancestor worship, and if we look at the processes right out the gate, losing the body, there's a lot going on right there that immediately says that we're not, it's not an absolute no.

02:59:13.960 The gods can do what they will, but it doesn't ever, outside of extraordinary circumstances, lend to the idea that somehow it's going to be different or there's a commonality there.

02:59:31.440 We can clearly see the moment that the body is taken out of the soul complex, there are fragmentations and that the soul is the core.

02:59:41.180 We teach a lot about how the thought and memory fall into the soul like a goblet.

02:59:53.200 There is the hamina, which is the stem, the philkia, which is its connection, kind of the motivation of the moving spirit, much very similar to the body in Midgard.

03:00:06.760 um but all of the other things kind of fall into it and that's carried on and if some of it is

03:00:13.800 poured out into vergalnor the well in the lower world and the root takes it up and the gods

03:00:22.180 allocate it back in the realm of order to do things in midgard that is a cycle there is a

03:00:29.200 reincarnating of things but it's not a totality or perhaps the perception of um you're not gonna

03:00:38.240 die and just simply wake up um as uh i don't know an indian and uh or or um you know

03:00:51.520 suddenly you're a swede and your ancestors are praying to you or you're sorry your uh descendants 0.96

03:00:58.400 are praying to you and you're not there you're um you know busy making meatballs in sweden um

03:01:05.200 that just doesn't add out and i think that's what else here is really pointing out is

03:01:12.080 stepping back taking the scope and realizing it just doesn't make a lot of sense but yet we see

03:01:18.800 other things that make perfect sense and that is the parceling and of course we can't say the

03:01:25.120 totality of what the gods can do and can't do so there is always the caveat of that layered on top

03:01:32.560 and that's kind of going to be the answer and i think that's why asher was talking about

03:01:37.280 we get this question a lot and it's never easy or one for one or yes you're going to be completely

03:01:44.800 and wholly born in the bloodlines of your descendancy and if you don't have children you're

03:01:48.400 doomed that might sound cool but it's really not and it's not how complex the ecosystem of the soul

03:02:01.200 that our ancestors passed the lore down that's not the way even the way they passed it down

03:02:07.520 is being explained all right guys well it's been a good show tonight we've covered a lot more ground

03:02:15.360 than we have at least last week and probably a couple of weeks before or i guess two weeks ago

03:02:21.600 so we're going through this in chunks but it's uh sparks meaningful conversation that i think

03:02:26.320 is really important um thank you guys for being here nothing lost over in the chat i'm glad that

03:02:32.640 you enjoyed my runestone article um thank you for saying so and uh yeah looking forward to uh

03:02:43.040 going into the rest or at least the next section of the gilfin getting with spawn here

03:02:50.480 um the start of uh start of june but next week we have law speaker alan turnage on to do another

03:02:59.600 episode of unfulting with allen so that'll be great if you can make it out to midsummer at

03:03:06.160 Odenshoff, you should do that. That would be awesome. Brownsville, California. I would love

03:03:13.600 to see you there. If I don't talk to you until then, I will see you guys next week.

03:03:19.680 Hale the Aesir, Hale the Folk, Hale the AFA, and remember, victory never sleeps.

03:03:49.680 We'll be right back.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - May 21, 2026

5⧸20⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 202 - Prose Edda： Gylfaginning, Part 9

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