Asatru Folk Assembly - May 04, 2023


5⧸3⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 43 - The Soul


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00:03:59.980 And welcome back for another exciting edition of Victory Never Sleeps.
00:04:05.100 As those of you watching this may have noticed, and for those listening on the podcast later
00:04:11.220 down the line, it's sad to announce, but a member of the Ask True Folk Assembly passed
00:04:19.260 away recently.
00:04:20.260 A member named Daniel Franklin in Minnesota, passed away far too young at 39 years old.
00:04:27.460 And so we honor her, and Mark is passing on this show today.
00:04:33.740 With that, today we are going to talk about the Norse conception of the soul, the soul complex.
00:04:43.640 And it transcends the Norse.
00:04:45.320 I think this is the Aryan soul complex in general with Old Norse terms.
00:04:50.380 this is a complex subject it's something that I know many of us have you know studied or read
00:05:02.120 about or aware of but just figuring out what goes where and what pieces do what is is always a little
00:05:08.200 bit tricky so if I expect a lot of questions tonight and if you know things get turned around
00:05:16.400 or there's some some overlap in some stuff please bear with us um
00:05:23.360 so it is a it's a new month i might as well start with some with some news of the day um
00:05:32.880 things are going really good it's kind of a progress report deal we've uh paid off
00:05:40.160 we had two loans initially for new york's off and we purchased that in august we're already
00:05:48.080 almost halfway through paying that thing all the way off which is fantastic it's thanks
00:05:52.800 to you guys and your generosity we really really appreciate that um that said we're
00:05:58.880 still owe about a hundred and ten thousand on it um that breaks down to almost you know almost
00:06:06.880 a hundred bucks a member if every afa member gave a hundred bucks we'd be we'd be have that thing
00:06:12.080 paid off tomorrow and could start looking for phrase off but that's the progress i know folks
00:06:17.120 ask on it um phrasehoff we're looking at either you know very far west pennsylvania or more likely
00:06:27.600 in the state of ohio and that's going to be our our next uh next venture once new york's
00:06:34.400 Hoff's all the way paid off. Sigerheim is doing awesome. We just got a structure placed out there
00:06:43.100 that our Pioneer member who's out there right now is going to live in temporarily while something,
00:06:50.000 you know, a little bit bigger gets built. But we have a structure there now. We've paved in,
00:06:56.200 I say paved in, we've graveled in a roadway to the structure and set a gravel pad on it.
00:07:03.600 it now has a mailing address for mail to get delivered services are being set up there so
00:07:09.940 we're moving right along with Sigurheim which you know is a project near and dear to my heart that
00:07:15.280 I'm gonna it's very much my plan that I'm gonna move out there in relatively soon amount of time
00:07:22.020 working on working on getting that figured out so that's going really well
00:07:26.400 if you're joining us tonight or you have people that want to join us we're being simulcast
00:07:33.440 on Twitter, on VK, on Odyssey, on YouTube, certainly, and here on Entropy. Also, if you
00:07:45.440 guys want to give donations and tips and stuff, we appreciate that a lot. We make sure that goes
00:07:51.800 towards paying off things like that Hoff, things like Sigurheim. It helps tremendously. We
00:07:58.360 appreciate everybody who's gone over to Entropy to donate. You can donate on Entropy. You can
00:08:02.540 also especially on tonight we're going to have a lot of questions go over there and participate
00:08:06.940 in the super chat if you throw a question up with your donation um we will get to that first before
00:08:13.260 we start hitting the other questions i think that's what we got other than reminding you guys
00:08:21.340 that coming up the end of this month we're going to celebrate the third annual elsie fest
00:08:27.420 celebrating the folk mother lc christensen that's going to be in wisconsin i'll be going out to that
00:08:33.900 i'm looking forward to it it's always a really nice event they've got a wisconsin fish boil
00:08:39.980 there that i always look forward to because it's delicious um yeah so i hope to see everybody there
00:08:45.500 if you're a member you should be there if you're not a member you should still be there but you
00:08:50.540 need to reach out to uh your local folk builder and they can get you all set up and vouched for
00:08:56.620 and figured out but i'd love to see you guys there um i think that's going to roll us right in witness
00:09:04.460 fawn can you so for everybody out there taking notes or whatever spawn could you list the pieces
00:09:15.900 of the soul complex and start with one and tell us about it and i think we'll try to do these one at
00:09:24.220 a time. Okay, yeah. I mean, do you want me to go through them all and then we'll start at the one
00:09:30.540 or just Yeah, if you could create the list for folks, so people taking notes can write it down
00:09:35.180 or so people can conceptualize it in their head. And then we'll then we'll start it. Start at the
00:09:41.740 first one you list. Okay, well, I had a little bit of a I'm looking over the comments and they're
00:09:49.500 killing me over here with this the uh ai generated smile i got all my fingers that's that's how you
00:09:55.500 know it's not ai um but i i did create a uh just a little image i know this is pretty i wish we i
00:10:04.780 could get nick to flash it up there but so oh here we go oh that's not working at all is it
00:10:15.660 i have a blur on because uh the background all right we'll get to that filter on
00:10:22.780 no no the the back filter actually uh my wife might actually have to leave in the middle of
00:10:28.460 this so i that's why we put it up um that's you're gonna hurt somebody's eyes i know i know they're
00:10:35.580 gonna be glasses on glasses off um it's strange because sometimes the frame is perfectly clear
00:10:42.940 and others like half of it is blurred and the other is crystal clear i don't know
00:10:47.980 don't know what's yeah and actually leading up to this uh when i was testing it perfectly clear
00:10:54.460 high definition then we moved into like the back room and or the you know the back room of the uh
00:11:01.020 for the show and it looked good and then it just turned back into this so uh kind of defeated on
00:11:07.260 that one just need to get a new one um so one of the things that uh we'll get to the image later
00:11:16.140 because it's it's actually important i think that we cover some of that but the first is uh there's
00:11:24.300 nine parts of the soul and there is a there's a 10th element um and so that that that 10th element
00:11:33.580 element is hinging upon some functions of the other parts of the soul and we'll get to the
00:11:40.320 10th element uh as we go but the uh the leak the leak is similar to the german word uh like
00:11:49.200 leech or leech the uh the it's the body the physical body um and it's spelled l-i-k
00:11:57.900 the dash over the i which makes it a long e sound uh there's the ek ek is the
00:12:05.740 ego the self and uh justification of existence um or determination of that justification of
00:12:16.320 existence uh next is huer huer is h-u-g-r i know it looks like it's spelled hugger but it's
00:12:26.900 hue would and that is your your mind your your thought your processes the things that you take
00:12:36.340 in and the stimuli that drives you forward and it's much more than that and we'll go into each
00:12:42.580 one but um after that is the mini mini is is memory m-i-n-n-i mini is the memory and so this
00:12:56.100 is this is a bifurcation of the functionings of the mind um but they are kind of seen as together
00:13:03.460 um next we have is the on the ond is very special it's the divine breath it's o-n-d
00:13:12.660 uh there's two dots above the o and so it has the kind of the au sound like in the word caught so
00:13:19.700 it's on um from the aunt we have the um hammer h-a-m-r hammer um hammer is the projected self or
00:13:37.540 i would say even the the power of the self uh and this is a very that's a very broad definition we'll
00:13:43.140 get into each of these but um the hammer is is the extension of the might of the soul
00:13:51.220 and might is a very important word for that and then we have the saul s a l the a has a dash over
00:13:58.900 it so that's an owl sound saul it's the soul um and the soul is uh the containment of of
00:14:06.180 much of this complex. Then we have the ha-ming-ja. It's H-A-M-I-N-G-J-A. So ha-ming-ja. The J is a Y sound,
00:14:22.620 So it's not ha-ming-ja. That sounds like an odd word. Ha-ming-ja. And then lastly, we have the fil-ja. The fil-ja is F-Y-L-G-J-A. Fil-ja.
00:14:42.620 and uh it would be worth to note putting off to the side next to the hammer and the sound
00:14:50.260 would be something called older so off to the side uh the o with the dash over it th or the f
00:15:01.240 which looks like a d with a line through the top almost like a combination between a d and a t
00:15:06.160 and are older. And we'll get to that in relation to the other components that really, really
00:15:13.920 ignite that. So starting off, I mean, first and foremost, I was there for one sec. I acknowledge
00:15:24.200 a couple of things over in the side. Ronald Blake got it right this time. Apologize for last week.
00:15:31.180 that's on me uh just donated a hundred dollars to newerts off to make that happen uh this man is
00:15:38.300 doing his part and a whole lot of other people's parts too thank you so much for your generosity
00:15:44.300 you're on here every week donating and making stuff happen this is how we get stuff done
00:15:50.140 and we appreciate it um and then another comment europa the last battle says
00:15:57.740 nah i prefer old school alive spawn ai is bad news i'm saying i think you should give this
00:16:06.380 show a shot robo's fun may be cooler than regular spawn you don't know
00:16:16.460 your robo was having me laugh as we were coming into the intro
00:16:19.660 so um uh wrought again forty dollars to new words off thank you very much we appreciate it
00:16:30.460 and says that they are signing up for membership tomorrow that's awesome and i look forward to your
00:16:34.940 application uh yeah no i just saw those things over on the side and i wanted to go ahead and hit
00:16:39.580 those if you would let's start with piece one of the soul complex
00:16:45.660 yeah the leak i mean i think that's or before we even step into that one of the things that's
00:16:54.460 duly noted i think for people that are coming into ausitru is why is there multiple parts or
00:17:00.700 or things of that nature and that might be a confusing concept in and of itself but
00:17:05.740 these even though we're using the norse words i also made mention that of connections to them in
00:17:11.980 uh like in german uh these components are listed as you said you know that these are
00:17:18.860 spanning in the language and upon reviewing concepts of the teutonic arian soul
00:17:27.820 we have seen these words um indicating components and things of the of the self and so this is a
00:17:36.060 compiling of them and and and i there's no right like a lore where it says that this is a this is
00:17:45.660 a condensation or a con yeah or i guess a a formulation of the list so pause for a sec
00:17:54.700 because i'd like to say there is lore that says that that lord just happens to come from the 1980s
00:18:01.020 um and that's that's something important none of us here are trying to suggest to you that any
00:18:09.900 viking dude somewhere wrote this down as these are the exact pieces of of the soul this is
00:18:17.640 compiled knowledge of our source lore and all of the lore going up to modern times
00:18:25.180 about the components that make up the soul of our folk and what's really important
00:18:31.960 people can squabble over minutia of what each piece might be called or whether there's some
00:18:40.100 overlap between pieces and you think one part goes here you think one part goes there
00:18:44.500 there's room for that but the importance here is what we are communicating tonight is truth
00:18:52.020 and we're communicating it in the best way that has come to the greatest of our minds
00:18:57.600 of how to compartmentalize those truths into these component parts all of these component
00:19:04.580 parts do go into our soul that's truthful how that that's all shaped our names for identification
00:19:12.680 of the soul part are our parts is much like the runes the carved sticks the like straight lines
00:19:21.720 on rocks aren't the runes they're representations of the runes the rune is the mystery it embodies
00:19:29.800 and you know just because somebody's drawing it with a certain set of straight lines
00:19:35.560 right that line symbolizes this so the soul that we are putting out there symbolizes the truth of
00:19:42.120 our soul as we grow in advance as our faith develops perhaps we can break it down even
00:19:49.000 further into components of each of these parts this is true up to this point it may be refined
00:19:56.520 and more true down the line but what we are delivering tonight is truth in the best way that
00:20:02.840 we know it yeah the uh i mean that encapsulates the the motivation of why we are are mapping this
00:20:15.080 out and it's also you know incumbent upon us as gothar to explain these things because they do
00:20:23.480 have living and even you know post-mortem effects of of of this we see this as uh all encompassing
00:20:34.840 part between the living and passing on but let's let's focus on the soul mapping um when we talk
00:20:42.440 about the leak we're talking about the body and the body and in its importance um of of what it
00:20:48.920 is to the soul it's the vehicle it is um the physical uh implementation of will through um
00:20:57.400 you know usage of our hands and our mouths um i think it's it's also the focusing power of on
00:21:05.640 um the the another component that we'll discuss later and again it will have to jump around a
00:21:11.560 a little bit because they're all so intimately connected but the on um the divine breath that
00:21:17.680 we receive from olden passed through all of us is one of the major components to it is our ability
00:21:27.680 to manifest ourselves in an unknown so we know of the past and we know of our present but to
00:21:35.120 manifest ourselves by saying we will run or we will go the first part of that is about speaking
00:21:42.560 that power and and and along with actually physically moving a lot of these components
00:21:49.900 are hinging on the body the body uh you know component is important i think even from cultural
00:21:58.800 standpoints in the afa i mean we have you know a physical excellence uh group where we focus on
00:22:06.720 you know honing the body strengthening the body or or you know bettering the health of the body
00:22:14.480 um always striving to build better about ourselves no matter what point of time in our life no matter
00:22:21.280 our age um and to achieve goals or make goals and then achieve them and so that honing that shaping
00:22:28.640 of the body i think is extremely important so on a on a on the physical level this is where we
00:22:35.040 we receive the you know the the blooming the shape our our our distinction what makes us folk
00:22:43.360 what our identity um and our connective identity to each other starts in the leak
00:22:51.280 and so it's extremely important um and we see this as the the the body is a unit of the soul
00:23:02.800 that has worth value and should be shaped maintained and upkept and or accelerated into
00:23:12.640 its the the form of its its uh its purpose if you are you find yourself in your line of work
00:23:20.240 and um you are you know unfit you're unfit to carry people you're unfit to move things you're
00:23:27.760 on then then then it greatly establishes what you're capable of doing in the world
00:23:33.520 or what what your oorlog and your your weird what you're able to weave in the world is directly
00:23:39.920 associated with your body so taking care of your body is important there's within reason of course
00:23:47.200 Obviously, we know that some folks do take to abstaining from things or living in rigorous physical conditioning and all of this, which is good, but it's about where you are in the world, in your life.
00:24:06.860 Again, fashioning yourself to be an implement of weird and your soul is important.
00:24:14.140 So the leak.
00:24:15.380 All right.
00:24:15.920 before we go to part two i want to speak about the leak and i also want to tell folks we have um
00:24:21.920 so anybody on entropy please come back on entropy i know it shut down it's back up now it's doing
00:24:26.720 awesome uh as far as i can tell anyways um we've got uh anyway please bear with me on any entropy
00:24:35.360 technical difficulties uh it's a really great service it's been problematic for us a little
00:24:40.320 bit lately but we got two folks that donated over there you know it's maybe a little bit of hassle
00:24:45.840 but the afa just made 30 bucks so we appreciate it uh guys who are doing the super chat over on
00:24:51.120 entropy uh bear with us you will be the first people whose questions we answer but we do want
00:24:56.880 to get through all of the different pieces before we go into the questions so it may be a little
00:25:02.080 bit before we get to you but you may not be right now but you will be first i promise you um
00:25:10.320 One thing that I think is important, and I think this is a, so many of the concepts in our faith
00:25:24.940 are represented on many, many levels. There's a microcosm macrocosm relationship between a lot
00:25:35.640 the things that we talk about the soul community is like that all of the parts of your soul rely
00:25:45.000 upon each other how each of them is developed or not developed affects all of the others
00:25:55.400 it is the job of your leak to be as beautiful as possible
00:26:02.520 because its beauty is reflected on every other piece of that soul complex.
00:26:09.440 It is the first thing people see. It's the first thing that most people see when they see you.
00:26:15.180 And it's your, it's literally your first impression. Look good. Look your best.
00:26:22.900 The other thing is to be physically capable. We exist in this life in a physical corporeal world
00:26:30.440 where the only way you can do stuff is with your body does that sound ableist life is ableist
00:26:37.600 unfortunately it just is um so you're doing the best with what you have and making the most out
00:26:47.420 of it is essential to getting the best out of the rest of your soul complex being physically capable
00:26:53.720 being in good shape, minding your health and your longevity, and also looking good.
00:27:00.860 Those are all really important things. And, you know, this is a conversation that I had with
00:27:08.220 our founder, I'll tell you, Stephen, some years ago, I think even before I was,
00:27:18.080 I'll hear you go through. And we both very much believed that your physical condition is a
00:27:25.620 reflection of your soul condition. How healthy the rest of your soul is, is reflected in your
00:27:32.660 physical condition. And there's a lot of pieces that go into that. And I'm happy to answer
00:27:36.980 questions on that later. But I think it's important as we go into this, to, to have that part
00:27:42.620 in mind please proceed to part two yeah i well and i i'm kind of biased on that opinion as well
00:27:52.520 i think that um i know being a a barber is uh especially in the essence of discipline to style
00:28:00.360 or discipline to aesthetics and the idea of maintaining yourself maintaining your appearance
00:28:07.680 maintaining your professionalism maintaining your nobility and your corrective actions uh reflect
00:28:15.040 in the way that you do present yourself in the world the way it's so important that we dress well
00:28:24.560 we carry ourselves well we stand upright we stand clear-eyed uh chest out and and hips forward these
00:28:32.480 things are all important and i i definitely think i'm i'm biased in that because my business is
00:28:39.120 the maintenance of that discipline to style um okay so the the next component and i mean and
00:28:49.040 again elite can be extremely complex depending on where we take that but the the next one is i i
00:28:57.440 find is also a very big complex part um that is hard to quantify for a lot of people but the ek
00:29:04.880 the ek is in essence the ego and definition of the ego it has i mean there's entire schools of
00:29:14.240 thought that are built around what is the ego you know whether it's you know the um
00:29:20.800 an archetype of the soul or it's the das ein or whatever it might be so if i can if i can
00:29:27.360 interject something because i think it's it's timely on this um what you just said about how
00:29:34.080 you carry yourself i think it directly relates between the ego's interaction with the lick
00:29:43.600 your pride in self and your awareness of how others view you walking with your head up your
00:29:48.800 chin out your chest out walking tall and proud and standing up straight is a part of that ego
00:29:56.720 embodying that deck yeah absolutely and i think the health of the ego um yeah uh reflects through
00:30:06.880 the through the leak and and a lot of times i know when we talk about internet uh jargon or
00:30:14.800 are just talking in discussions and we talk about like people you know throw out the word alpha
00:30:19.680 quite a lot um or you know and beta and sigma and and what have you but really what they're talking
00:30:25.600 about is the i think the pathway to the ego presenting itself in the world and first and
00:30:37.840 foremost often through the body i mean yes our our speech and our minds have a great effect but
00:30:43.920 it is incumbent on the body to also embody that um when we talk about the ego
00:30:51.040 obviously the uh the connotations in modern time have take negative turns because we we have
00:30:58.240 words like egotistical that that immediately kind of barrage the mind um and so in this day
00:31:05.360 in age i think it's important that we clarify the ego and it's
00:31:14.720 it's positioning to make you better is your ability to see yourself to act to physically move
00:31:22.720 to grow and to to shape yourself that those two reflect on each other there it's important that
00:31:28.160 you have a healthy ego ego is really all the activity that you take to give your presence
00:31:36.880 and to give your existence justification to live and to move and to interact with your community
00:31:44.080 with your family uh much of it is built upon your deeds um so as as you create deeds with
00:31:51.520 the body your ego then is much like a receptacle of the the merit that you gain from your deeds and
00:32:03.200 so if you act nobly if you move nobly if you act professionally if you move forward in your life
00:32:09.440 with all these components physically your ego starts to be honed as well much like working it
00:32:16.960 out like an exercise um and then eventually the this this uh melding of the of the two elevate
00:32:24.800 themselves and that's a big part throughout the entire entirety of the soul because when we get
00:32:29.360 to other components just like every part of the soul just like the body can be honed trained and
00:32:38.720 elevated in its performance so that's also something worth worth noting uh the ego is
00:32:45.200 is is a huge I mean when you go down the psychological route it is a huge topic about
00:32:52.760 what exactly you know is is the justification for our existence and and so on and so forth
00:32:59.260 and I'm I'm not really going to try to tackle all of that but what it what it ultimately is I think
00:33:05.800 is projective and and receptive you are receptive by your deeds and by the things that you you know
00:33:13.240 you receive as you as you grow and your ego is affected by that it's also affected by the things
00:33:19.960 say negative things or or hardships and things that are perceived negatively and they help
00:33:26.760 formulate your ego um and so your existence and premise of justification doesn't necessarily mean
00:33:38.120 that if you gain hardships you know it's a it's really it's the it's the tipping point because a
00:33:43.960 lot of people you see when they have a a broken ego um that it it affects them physically the
00:33:51.720 shoulders are hunched their head is down body language is extremely telling of everything
00:33:57.160 that's going on um and it it doesn't have to be permanent obviously we go through those phases
00:34:05.000 of our lives where a lot of the stimuli that we gain uh affect our physical perceptions of
00:34:12.280 ourselves and um yeah yeah all right if you have anything to add on to that yeah absolutely and
00:34:19.720 first i see over in the side and i'm not answering questions right now but i do want to comment on
00:34:24.120 things that go on in the chat if i think they're they're relevant yeah some people are born with
00:34:30.600 um infirmities some people experience things in their life that either make them cripple in some
00:34:38.320 way or perhaps disfigure them there are challenges to all of these things my point about the lick
00:34:45.840 is it's your job to make that the best it can be if there's some things that can't be overcome
00:34:52.080 fine the rest of your team of your soul complex will do their best to to hold that up and
00:34:58.840 compensate it. That's how a team works. But your lick owes it to the rest of the soul complex to
00:35:05.700 be at the best that it can be. Not the best that exists, but the best that it can be.
00:35:13.000 Also, I see a comment, and I don't want to, you know, I meant this earlier, but we have been
00:35:17.860 remiss. We owe our conception of the soul complex, our understanding of it, and the foundations of
00:35:27.700 this topic to uh dr stephen flowers um edrid thorson his pen name uh he is is the man who
00:35:38.580 um sorted this out initially who put these ideas to paper we've expounded on them and i think we
00:35:46.420 differ in in some you know small ways but this is all based on the work of of dr dr flowers
00:35:53.780 when i spoke earlier about how it is part of our lore those works by dr flowers when he was
00:35:59.940 a big part of pioneering modern alsatru are part of that lore um futhark rune lore some of those
00:36:08.900 very seminal books that he put out are part of our modern lore and uh yeah i don't in any way
00:36:16.260 want to claim that this is all our own doing we've we've tried to develop and expand upon it the best
00:36:21.300 we can but we owe this to to dr flowers and we appreciate the pioneering work that he did
00:36:28.020 as far as the ego that's it's a lot of things but one of the key concepts to me when thinking of it
00:36:39.540 in terms of the soul complex is your self-confidence or lack thereof
00:36:45.540 um if you have the best leak in the world but your shoulders are slumped and your head's down
00:36:52.660 and you're mopey and you can't look anybody in the eye the power of that's diminished
00:36:59.380 if you're not the most impressive but you're out there you're standing up you're looking
00:37:03.460 everybody in the eye your chest's out you have pride in how you carry yourself and how you walk
00:37:09.140 in your body language that enhances that leak to a level it wouldn't be at normally
00:37:14.660 um and the pride in self and we've seen that we can see this in different parts of the soul
00:37:22.360 but very specifically the pride in self is something that our enemies writ large the enemy
00:37:29.520 folk but writ small the enemies of you personally the bully in high school the you know your rival
00:37:36.400 in whatever you do that's petty tearing down your self-confidence tearing down that ego
00:37:42.540 though, is there one of their most effective ways to strike at you and to emasculate you
00:37:50.920 if you're a man, if you're a woman, just I don't know what the female equivalent of that
00:37:55.300 is, but to to disempower you.
00:37:58.580 And that's something we need to be very conscious of.
00:38:01.060 And I think it's very relevant to the world that we're around today when we see the pushing
00:38:07.080 of degenerate and alternative lifestyle choices that we don't approve of, or the demanding of
00:38:16.060 every couple on every commercial needs to be interracial or needs to be homosexual,
00:38:21.700 that's targeted to hurt us in the ego. So it's important that we spend extra time fortifying
00:38:29.700 our sense of self-confidence. And that's a very important element in our ego.
00:38:34.960 yeah and i think it's important to know too that uh the part of the ego is about not not settling
00:38:46.320 it's about always yearning to formulate stronger and better self uh and so you are not ultimately
00:38:56.880 the biggest uh critic of of oneself oftentimes is ourselves but the idea is that you're
00:39:04.960 You're not accepting or just tolerating the miasma of where you're at.
00:39:13.140 It draws you into a lull.
00:39:16.560 Instead, you're always looking forward, always trying to tweak or maintain or clean or hone.
00:39:24.940 There's so much to go on there.
00:39:27.020 You can't tolerate just accepting where you're at.
00:39:31.420 It's about improvement.
00:39:32.980 And if you have a deficiency in the wholeness of your body or even to and we'll get to that about when we talk about thought and memory, the wholeness of the mind, the idea that one of the driving points of the ego is to not tolerate but to continue to impress upon oneself to improve at all times.
00:39:56.320 because that's the that's i think the structuring power that will keep a lot of the onslaught
00:40:02.640 against the ego um is is not focusing on the negative obviously that that destroys the ego
00:40:08.920 it's when you are intolerant of the that which is acceptable and always thinking about the positive
00:40:17.500 and always thinking about moving forward moving upward being better that helps you pull through
00:40:25.040 the onslaught of a lot of you know the depressive factors and degenerative factors that are always
00:40:30.640 kind of flowing at it um yeah so we've got the leak we've got the eck what is part three okay so
00:40:42.320 the part three is part three and four are intimately connected but going with the
00:40:48.160 the first is huir huir is thought uh it translates to to the thinking or the thought um uh this is i
00:40:57.280 would say the forward-facing mind it is the the mind that receives stimuli it is the mind that
00:41:05.040 interacts with um perception the way that we perceive things and this too can affect the ek
00:41:14.080 um it's much akin to uh experiencing uh stimuli whether it's from from someone talking or or from
00:41:23.760 someone uh writing something that really just strives and hits home um it's it's the i i think
00:41:32.240 it's the first part of the receptive sense of other people's older and we'll get into that
00:41:37.760 later um but it is it is most importantly the receptive seeing mind and how you calculate and
00:41:47.120 how you you uh process that information and what use you have for it or what you can oftentimes
00:41:54.400 you know try to discard and it's it's your intellect and your wisdom uh but it is the
00:42:01.920 i would say the experience wisdom the ability to apply it to your thinking into your acting
00:42:08.320 um and that oftentimes gets confused with the deeper wisdom of memory which is the next
00:42:13.360 component but the uh the huir is uh yeah it could be based on your your intelligence it could be
00:42:22.000 based on the processes in which you hone your mind to think to uh ponder and to receive information
00:42:28.640 and also funnel that information and apply it elsewhere.
00:42:37.700 So everything that Svon just said, but with the added effect of, you know, there are
00:42:43.520 multiple, this is one of, and there's many components that have this.
00:42:49.820 This is one of those that has sacred and mundane aspects. It's also your busy mind that thinks of,
00:42:57.840 you know what groceries you need to get and stuff you got to do for work and deadlines and
00:43:04.320 you know what's on tv and you know what are you what are you eating for dinner and calculating
00:43:10.000 your macros and all the different things that your mind needs to multitask and do in our corporeal
00:43:18.000 existence here in midgard it also has higher things like tactics or you know contemplating
00:43:26.880 spirituality or doing things like we're doing right now um but these these are different you
00:43:32.960 know these are all things that go on there and we'll talk more about that a little bit later
00:43:39.920 but there's a lot of different processes going on there yeah and if we if we look at the body as
00:43:47.280 the forefront and in the center is the ek and then to the to the side of the ek is is the thought and
00:43:54.480 the memory and we can see kind of the encapsulation of the the the vehicle part of the soul working
00:44:02.720 all in tandem and uh in order for you know as people taking if people are taking notes on this
00:44:08.720 is that the those upper components of the list work very intimately together in the physical
00:44:17.760 sense in the physical world the material the middle world um and those applications are
00:44:23.680 important um when we you can't separate the huer from the mini the mini is the memory
00:44:35.040 uh but this is where it suddenly becomes um selectively active at this point because uh
00:44:44.960 you know unless you're resting your brain with good sleep and uh you know achieving mental states
00:44:50.640 that are that are good um both your your thought and your memory are affected and your body and
00:44:57.920 and then hence your ego in the center um your mini is the collective intellectual machinations that
00:45:07.120 you have accumulated as you interact with the world and compartmentalizing them and placing
00:45:13.440 them down and they are uh actively engaged and sometimes inactively engaged during you know
00:45:22.560 certain activities or certain uh situations that you might find yourself in so the the mini has
00:45:31.600 is kind of the gateway to the rest of the list as a lot of your other soul components can sometimes
00:45:41.040 enter through into the physical by coming out of your memory then we talk about memory in a sense
00:45:50.800 not so much just only in the way that we do remember things but it's also there's a soul
00:45:55.600 memory there's a blood memory there's a memory of of your lineage there's a memory of many
00:46:02.000 different factors and um the memory component has often been a very controversial or at least it was
00:46:10.560 a long time ago one of the most controversial components of of uh our of our church of of the
00:46:19.360 of focus also true when we talk about uh the metagenetics we're talking about the gateway
00:46:24.720 between the cognitive mind and the like subconscious mind and how that applies in the body
00:46:32.560 and how it affects things um our memory can be activated based on the the things we bring
00:46:39.920 to the table but there are things on the other side of the table that are already set there for
00:46:44.160 us and it is important that we acknowledge them uh introspectively try to engage them um and even
00:46:53.600 even pull them out and uh ruminate on them and work on them um and see how they affect things so
00:47:04.000 the mini is both conscious memory and subconscious memory even to the point of
00:47:11.920 soul memory i always view it as kind of the the um if the body and the ego and and thought
00:47:20.640 are the are the uh projected um space that we encapsulate as we move in and create weird it
00:47:31.360 is mini that is like the doorway that leads into the further and more complex parts of the soul
00:47:38.400 um it's it's a common thing as if if you learn how to play a musical instrument and you're trained
00:47:45.840 intellectually to read music but when all of that is encapsulated together there's this transcendent
00:47:52.960 moment where your memory uh starts to press forward into the physical and even to the point
00:48:01.520 where you are becoming like a gateway of the other soul components through that medium of playing
00:48:09.440 music or you know the recitation of poetry or or um even just the activation of of this could happen
00:48:16.720 in a physical sense um when you're running or something for a very long period of time
00:48:22.320 and you're thinking about all the things you learned and all the techniques and how you make
00:48:25.520 your stride and and all the components that that make you successful and then suddenly there's this
00:48:31.600 rush of something that comes from beyond from almost like behind you and comes
00:48:39.440 saturates forward into the physical it it the gateway is your memory
00:48:44.240 um yeah there's stuff i'd like to add on this i'm also you know keeping track of the side comments
00:48:55.280 and i don't see this question in our queue of questions so i want to address it now not as
00:49:02.720 answering the question per se because i'm still going to answer you guys who donated first but
00:49:07.600 But just as a clip point of clarification, this is the structure of the soul proposed by Thomas Carlson.
00:49:16.600 It's a very good one and historically accurate.
00:49:20.600 Yes, but Thomas Carlson learned this from Dr. Flowers.
00:49:26.600 So this comes from the same source.
00:49:29.600 I have not read Thomas Carlson's furtherance of it, so I'm not sure what points he makes
00:49:36.960 afterwards, but he credits Dr. Flowers as being his his inspiration in these things
00:49:44.780 and a guy that he corresponded with very early on and taught him much of this.
00:49:49.680 So we're hearkening back to the same same source on this.
00:49:53.200 um but yeah memory is
00:49:56.980 and I'll I'll put this out there and I think I've said this a few times but it's been really
00:50:04.740 instructive to me so my mom suffered uh she just passed away uh last month and she suffered from
00:50:14.320 And vascular dementia. And it was really informative because I got to see pieces of the soul complex break away from one another. And that's one of the ravages of that disease. But it's also very, very instructive.
00:50:34.640 And the memory, those memories that you possess, the memories that you inherit from your folk, those things you know from the past are such a huge part of who you are.
00:50:48.960 And I watched, and her hewer maintained longer than her many, and watching her memory get stripped from her dissolved so much of that core of who she is, of who people, because if you think about it, the way we relate to one another is our history.
00:51:18.960 the way Svahn and I relate is because he's a very dear friend of mine, and I've known him for many
00:51:26.360 years. And so we have a relationship. We have a rapport. We understand how each other thinks.
00:51:33.380 It's not just a guy I'm on here talking to for the first time today. It's built upon all that
00:51:39.120 I know about Svahn from those interactions. Same with our regular listeners. You guys have heard me.
00:51:45.480 you guys have heard Svan and so you guys are coming into this with a set of understanding
00:51:50.800 that adds context to everything but it adds a deeper perspective on who the other guy on this
00:51:58.220 you know the guy on the other side of the screen or on the other side of the earbuds or whatever
00:52:01.560 you're consuming this on is that foundation those roots of who you are are extremely important
00:52:13.000 and they're important as a people too when we know our historical roots or our ancestral roots
00:52:18.120 when someone comes from a family with deep family traditions of family roots they're poised so much
00:52:23.960 better for life than someone who's say someone who's adopted someone who doesn't know where
00:52:29.400 their family's from they've got to rebuild a lot of that and they're not permanently without you
00:52:36.040 know any value in it but they're at such a disadvantage not having that memory with them
00:52:41.640 not being infused with that as they grew up knowing who they are and where they come from
00:52:47.800 we've seen this culturally during conquests where groups of people strip
00:52:56.680 the memory from a group of people that they conquer they oppress and then that person is
00:53:03.080 rootless they're much easier to to dominate they're much easier to keep beat down and so it's
00:53:11.560 very important that we guard against that and that we cherish who we are where we're from
00:53:17.320 what our ancestors did those things that brought us to where that to where we are and learn those
00:53:22.200 lessons all of that is seemingly common sense but it's nice here to know that it's such an intricate
00:53:29.800 part of our soul complex so we've got leak eck huger and mini what is part number five
00:53:44.200 part number five is the ond and this again is another one that's that is uh especially i think
00:53:49.720 for people that are new or people that are trying to understand this is another hard one this is
00:53:55.960 the divine breath this is we we call odin lord odin is the god of our consciousness and we say
00:54:07.080 that and what we're talking about is the individual sure the collective yes the folk as an
00:54:12.840 entirety yes um there is the the the the spark that starts this and much of all of the interactions
00:54:24.840 of the components that we've discussed thus far are implementations of that spark. They are
00:54:34.360 the connection point that Odin has to see us and witness us through our actions, through our deeds,
00:54:42.940 through our speech. And it is, you know, it is a tethering point and is one of the most important
00:54:53.300 parts of i think our um descendancy um from him is in this component the on the breath so when we
00:55:05.380 talk about uh odin and villi and vei three the three the tripartite of odin himself the dynamicism
00:55:16.180 of him in his shaping of humanity shaping of the man shaping of the of ask and embla um there is
00:55:25.300 all of these components play out thus far and it starts on the bedrock of aunt that spark so that
00:55:33.460 the shaping of the body the functioning of the mind the manifestation of the will all are powered by
00:55:40.740 the aunt. In a lot of ways, I'm lost in thought on it because I'm trying to think of the best
00:56:00.700 way to communicate something that's very profound, but I don't know the right words that's going
00:56:07.100 make you know it's going to translate to you the feeling of it but
00:56:16.860 that divine spark that breath of life and of inspiration is
00:56:26.700 that important x factor that science can't obtain we understand biology we understand a lot of
00:56:34.140 things but what makes something conscious or not what animates a living entity or not
00:56:45.180 we don't know we can't i mean we know and we're talking about it now but we can't quantify we
00:56:52.220 can't reproduce we can come up with all kind of chemical cocktails but what makes life ascension
00:57:01.420 What makes life conscious, what makes us us is that divine spark, that breath of inspiration, that breath of life, that thing that makes us not animal, but Aryan man.
00:57:17.800 That piece that makes us us and not others.
00:57:23.900 Sorry, my daughter felt the need to come in here and howl.
00:57:27.940 It's what they do.
00:57:29.080 But that piece is is the on and it's it's hard to grasp.
00:57:33.800 It's hard to put your finger on.
00:57:36.520 But it's the thing that makes us us.
00:57:41.640 And it's so essential to our creation story that the gods found stuff.
00:57:50.500 In the lore, it's described as driftwood.
00:57:53.080 But they breathed that breath of divinity into us.
00:57:59.080 And it animates us and makes us who we are.
00:58:03.080 It makes our Aryan soul.
00:58:05.060 It animates our Aryan soul.
00:58:07.380 It's the gift of the All-Father.
00:58:09.220 And it's that special anointing of us inheriting from our gods that little piece of divinity that lives within us.
00:58:22.480 And it's so important to our soul complex.
00:58:24.820 yeah the the um the shaping of of the of the wood and it's mentioned of being that the wood is is
00:58:34.820 like driftwood it's it's rootless it's unfated and it is uh made of that which is of the material of
00:58:44.180 around it but it is shaped and made different it is animated is given that life it is um again the
00:58:51.060 breath the breath and the spark are are oftentimes you know so interchangeably used but yes that that
00:58:58.340 that transference of animation to the components of things this this happens so much in our faith
00:59:05.540 when we talk about the very same tripartite when we talk about oldenvillian vey and the slaughtering
00:59:12.420 of emir and the reshaping from the ex from existing matter or existing metaphysical matter
00:59:21.140 and energy being transferred changed and ordered and shaped the soul complex and what we're
00:59:27.860 covering is that ordering that the the gods of order the god of order odin that is formulated
00:59:37.220 in order to shape and and create the vessel and that's i think also hugely important when we talk
00:59:45.080 about ascension and you know we most likely will cover this later in in uh i know i keep skirting
00:59:51.060 it about um afterlife and things like that and i want to focus on soul but um the uh the when
01:00:00.020 people use the word like psychopomp in relation to odin talking about that that connection point
01:00:07.300 is the on the the the the part of odin's ability to um enact ascension to choose as he is called
01:00:17.780 the choosing father father and he has the ability to choose that manifestation that connection to it
01:00:25.300 and what we do and how it is it is all played out is deeply felt by him through on and so that
01:00:34.260 is the activation of the soul uh the gods in relation to humanity are looking at us in our
01:00:42.420 deeds looking for the might that grows within our soul that all of the components functioning the
01:00:49.220 higher the higher uh rate of which we all of these components work together is what draws
01:00:58.420 the gods to bring us up into heaven to help fight against those the the the antithesis forces and
01:01:07.700 so a lot of the components of the soul and how they work um you know that is a huge part of our
01:01:14.340 of our framing of of religiosity is is that the gods are watching our souls formulate and the
01:01:21.300 might of our souls is what will be used to help defend and to maintain order and and and that
01:01:29.060 first connection the the reason why it's even able to be seen is by the gift that owen placed within
01:01:36.820 us that that is what the gods can see when they look upon us and it said meet out or measure out
01:01:45.620 our doom is measure out our fate or our the culmination of our actions based on the honing
01:01:52.740 of our souls and it starts with the anchoring point which is on that deed that he created with
01:02:00.180 his weird is what makes that attachment tangible and and everlasting all right so we have leak
01:02:14.020 eck huger mini owned what is part six now this is called the hammer now the hammer is
01:02:28.740 one of those components that i think has been given uh kind of more of a rudimentary
01:02:36.180 or just plain able to consume conceptualization and the first one that always pops into my mind
01:02:43.860 is the presence of the self uh in the physical body but in a spiritual sense in in a metaphysical
01:02:51.620 sense um in that regards it would be i i've i've uh heard some people liken it to that when you
01:02:59.620 you have a limb removed and you still feel the limb um that that is where your your hammer or
01:03:09.300 your shape is still existent even though the physical part of your body is gone and so in
01:03:17.860 many ways people have argued that is it a projection of the way we see
01:03:21.540 ourselves if we are whole and then suddenly we are unwhole um is it just perception or does it
01:03:29.780 actually exist and that's the problem with that that um example is because the hammer is
01:03:36.500 that's the base sense of it the other sense of it is is the way that we can uh if we get all
01:03:43.940 of the components before it in alignment understood honed and practiced disciplined
01:03:51.060 the hammer can cease to be just an an aura or an effect of the body or a perception of the body
01:03:58.500 and can actually extend out into the unseen world around us um and in that regards i would say
01:04:06.820 a a simple effect would be if somebody was to change the environment in a room
01:04:18.420 uh the way that they their hammer their and i often use the word might in this
01:04:26.180 example is that the soul might at its base level is the shape of the body but it extends out and
01:04:33.860 it has an effect on things it can physically affect people it can it can mentally affect
01:04:40.660 people it can um bolster up it can it can uh you know cause uh
01:04:50.500 motion effect or stabilizing effect it can also draw in and so i think this one gets confused a
01:04:56.420 lot with when when people say it's the aura and i i try to avoid that in only in the context that
01:05:03.860 it's in relation to like a modern and uh kind of new age developmental talk or jargon um
01:05:13.780 the the the aura of a person doesn't quite activate that either still kind of keeps it in a
01:05:21.940 containment our view of hamlet is always that when you add the soul components up understanding the
01:05:31.540 divine breath and spark and build that connection, replenish it, the hammer starts to grow. The
01:05:38.540 hammer changes. It can be changed. It can take on an essence around the person that they have
01:05:48.380 have an ability to project in the world around them.
01:06:01.140 So there's a little bit of overlap between, in my mind, between this and between part
01:06:14.880 10. But the hammer can be perceived. We can see the leak. We can, okay, I shouldn't say see.
01:06:31.840 We can perceive the leak by our five senses. You can hear it. You can see it. You can poke it.
01:06:41.400 you can smell it, you can lick it, you can, you know, it's a thing. But that sixth sense,
01:06:50.340 those extra senses perceive the hammer. I feel bad that lefties have
01:07:00.780 soiled a lot of things to where we're embarrassed to say it, because this really is where auras
01:07:07.680 come into play when you have someone who sees with second sight who has that extra perception
01:07:15.600 they can perceive this projection of self i think very often this is
01:07:23.760 the visual element of those that encounter a visual element in ghost encounters
01:07:30.640 um this is one of those things that people with with second sight see when they see a person
01:07:39.700 they see this projection of that person this is something that the magus can send out to do his
01:07:50.160 will um but this is that projection of self outside of the leak and there's overlap and
01:08:04.400 i'll i'll get to that when we get to the the 10th kind of piece here
01:08:12.240 but yeah this is this is that i think it's really interesting the points fawn raises about the
01:08:16.800 you know the phantom limb um because i do think that's a really
01:08:24.000 very few of us have that experience but that's a very real it's a tangible way of of expressing
01:08:30.400 this um but yeah we also talked about if your leak is busted if you're blind sometimes blind
01:08:40.160 people have trained their perception to where they perceive hammer they they can perceive that that
01:08:49.840 non-corporeal projection of self and so whereas you have a physical projection of self which is
01:08:57.360 your body which is your leak your ethereal projection of self is that hammer yeah and
01:09:07.040 And when you when you said to oftentimes you talked about how the perceptive mind, the mind or the the the ability for a person to sense that, to see that it's it's amazing if someone is whole and can do that.
01:09:26.680 But what we have noticed is that sometimes when people are at a detriment in their body or sometimes in their mind, they can perceive the hamer.
01:09:37.460 So oftentimes I think the other components end up covering for that loss.
01:09:42.160 And when they do so, they activate an extra sensitivity even to the hamer.
01:09:48.480 um like you said when when someone is blind but yet can still feel a presence um innately within
01:09:56.600 them or if if a uh a person is um requires so much of their thought in the way that they perceive
01:10:04.560 things with their sight they can see it uh even if they were say deaf or um just unable to physically
01:10:13.080 move but yet still feel that that that presence oftentimes this would be like the case as if
01:10:20.460 someone was comatose or in a deep uh torpor slumber and uh but yet the presence of the
01:10:28.340 person near them is still felt because the hammer and the other uh the hammer affects the unseen
01:10:35.700 uh senses or or the other senses are activated so highly that they they can perceive this
01:10:42.420 um you also mentioned about um if somebody was to utilize their their might in order to project it
01:10:50.400 out um so the two combinations of what you had said about the reflection of the hammer in a in
01:10:56.100 a space and the projection willfully are kind of one in the same two oftentimes we notice that the
01:11:03.640 hammer is is witnessed by the living um in an area where someone may have long since passed
01:11:11.280 That projection usually happens in, I would say, less than, in not good situations, oftentimes the hamer is activated or explodes out because of trauma or because of an event or even just, I would say, like psychological trauma on the mind, on the thought.
01:11:39.440 um the hammer begins to react it can even even react against stimuli without you even being
01:11:47.140 aware of it and it imprints itself on the physical world around it and that is oftentimes like if you
01:11:55.500 uh you know seeing like uh in virginia the a lot of the battlefield ghosts going through um
01:12:02.620 there's one in particular near a tree that has been witnessed by multiple people but it's
01:12:07.520 continuing to do the same thing it's movement uh it looks like a young soldier crawling on the
01:12:14.960 ground and then standing up next to a tree and then it dissipates and this seems to repeat over
01:12:21.440 and over and over again and that is that imprint it's not that your hammer entirely stays here but
01:12:27.900 that its projection is so grand the might is so strong that it influxes itself upon the physical
01:12:35.800 world and we know that the physical world works in vibrations even in things that we cannot see
01:12:41.820 and it can manifest itself even into the the realm of perceptive and light that our our eyes can see
01:12:49.960 it all right so something on that and this is related this may seem out there but i i think
01:12:58.820 that it's worth putting in there. There are moments that you are so overcome by the moment
01:13:11.060 that all these things, for a brief instant, fire together and are amplified beyond what they would
01:13:21.100 normally be. We see that with with ghosts, if someone experiences an extreme trauma or dies in
01:13:30.660 a very traumatic way. At that moment, it's so powerful that their hammer transcends time and
01:13:40.540 space for that. You see that with the leak when you have the, you know, the woman that all of
01:13:49.760 sudden can deadlift a car because it's pinning her child she could never replicate that in the
01:13:56.300 gym or in a competition or in anything else but it hit and all those pieces work together for that
01:14:06.160 moment and transcended and and you see that with different parts of this complex and I think that
01:14:14.120 spawns example of the battlefield ghosts are are one of those instances where it transcends the
01:14:22.840 soul complex and is something truly magnificent so we've got the leak the f the huer the mini
01:14:36.520 the owned and the hammer yeah the hammer as it extends out what is part seven
01:14:46.920 and i promise you guys we will get to your questions i knew this was going to be a long
01:14:52.620 one so please do bear with us so this the soul it is the word it's the soul uh now the soul is
01:15:02.300 at again at the base level it could be seen as the encapsulation of that which resides behind
01:15:10.720 the memory those the like the and and the hammer the the the the soul could be seen as like the
01:15:18.740 core of that spiritual complex it could also be seen as the container of it uh or the internal
01:15:25.640 container of those those uh components beyond the memory but it is also important to know that it
01:15:34.840 contains its own threshold connection so much like where the memory is the threshold connection to
01:15:41.560 the spiritual components the soul is also a threshold to the spiritual components that
01:15:48.920 that are behind it and in that space there we call it oftentimes we call it the shade the the
01:15:55.640 the shaded self or the um the the presence of the self in uh parts unexplored it's not dark
01:16:07.400 it's shaded because it is unknown or unseen or unexplored these these parts of the soul that
01:16:15.880 that derive from so many components of our existence, including, again, the things that we receive from the gods, the blessings from the gods, the blessings at birth, they pass through the soul and affect everything before it and everything that's within it that is not directly, you know, your intellect or your physical body.
01:16:45.200 It affects those things, but all of that really does pass through the sal, and it is the deepest part of the temple, if you will.
01:16:56.080 So the soul is, I believe it's the Gil Fagening that talks a little bit about the soul being immortal.
01:17:08.040 in that barring special circumstance the soul that the soul which is our word soul
01:17:20.040 passes through death into into the beyond with whatever pieces get integrated into it or
01:17:30.360 whatever pieces are broken off from it, that is the inherent units that passes on into something
01:17:39.900 other. That is the units that is not destructible based upon normal mortality. Now, we can talk
01:17:51.680 about the disintegration of that at a later time. That's something to think about in the questions.
01:17:57.020 I know that the soul naturally leads to a conversation about death and the afterlife.
01:18:04.600 And Svan's already tried to like pull back from going into it too deeply because only because we're going to do a whole episode on that the next time we speak with Svan.
01:18:14.700 So two weeks from today, it's not verboten to talk about today, but we are going to focus on it more intensely here in two weeks.
01:18:24.980 So what's part eight?
01:18:27.020 so when we talk about well it depends do you want to uh talk about the other now considering that
01:18:37.060 these two components are so key in its placement i want to talk about it i want to talk about it
01:18:43.020 last okay so for everyone here just remember place this on the side that the 10th component
01:18:49.720 is deeply connected to the hammer and the south and it's connected to all of those parts but yes
01:18:56.460 and the cell is like the hub so yeah and pause as a disclaimer apparently my wife felt need to
01:19:04.160 mention this no my daughter is not screaming uh due to any kind of torture or parental malfeasance
01:19:10.380 she is excited about her bath time toys uh another once again thank you to our law speaker
01:19:17.320 alan turnage uh for her third birthday he gave her some cool bath toys that she's really excited
01:19:24.640 about really i was unaware that you guys could hear it quite that loud
01:19:30.800 um yeah where this where the sound would be much like the hub of a wheel and each of the components
01:19:37.840 an intrinsic spoke and the the leak would be the outer rim of the wheel the the uh the the tread
01:19:46.480 of the wheel itself that um moves through the world when we talk about these next two components
01:19:55.440 it would be best to look at them like the axle uh of of said hub um and that is the next one is
01:20:04.880 hamming yah hamming has got a lot of confusion i've seen i've seen people try to kind of
01:20:10.640 of uh mash it together with other components and not seeing it as its its own component but
01:20:19.580 I think that's a mistake Haminha is very important and it's based upon it's it's much like a reservoir
01:20:26.820 or again connected to the cell it is the reservoir of luck and that luck can is two-way that reservoir
01:20:34.780 can gain from all the components before it all of the deeds that you do the words that you say
01:20:41.420 and everything that you commit to can increase your humming a perfect example of this would be
01:20:49.200 to say taking an official oath and then going against that oath um or acting in contrary to
01:20:57.280 the because oaths can you know they they can change i think if both parties are clearly
01:21:03.480 assessing that things need to be, you know, renegotiated or the standards need to be met
01:21:10.500 because the outside world has, you know, affected some things. The oath that stands and the oath
01:21:19.020 that you have, if you go against that oath, it can directly affect your haminya. So whereas
01:21:26.020 haminya is seen as kind of like your might and is seen as a projective force, the haminya is a
01:21:33.080 receptive force when we talk about the physical world your luck is flowing there but it doesn't
01:21:39.280 just stop at you it's actually something that is passed down to your children so i want to make a
01:21:45.640 note in in the midst of this because i think that we're geared towards seeing negatives a lot and
01:21:54.060 that helps us to to be better but it's important to point out so your hymenia suffers if you break
01:22:00.380 an oath or if you don't live up to an oath but your hymenia is heightened and is enhanced if you
01:22:09.440 follow through on it because it means in a serious situation in a time of testing you stood by your
01:22:16.460 word and so it makes you mightier this is a really important thing to note um especially in terms of
01:22:24.320 you know, the second very important ritual we do in Asa Chu is Sambal. It's why we are so careful
01:22:32.080 of who we allow to speak oaths over the horn and any words that are spoken over the horn.
01:22:38.340 When you commit to that, when we're all in a ritual, our individual hymenas are made better
01:22:44.720 by people fulfilling oaths there. We're made mightier by that. But if somebody just spouts
01:22:50.480 off an oath and they don't follow through then we all take a hit in harmonia so i i just wanted
01:22:57.040 to interject that i saw a side comment that somebody said luck slash honor and i hadn't
01:23:03.280 heard it quite in that context but absolutely certainly honor in the way that we use it today
01:23:10.240 your personal integrity of of you being a person of of integrity or not but also in the more
01:23:18.560 archaic sense of the value your community places on you your hymenia is a collection of the value
01:23:27.600 that's placed on you by your existence and by your character sorry i didn't want to interrupt
01:23:34.800 but i thought it was very relevant at the time no absolutely and that's and that's the reason
01:23:39.520 why i chose the oath as an example because a lot of people get into uh the idea perhaps it's a more
01:23:46.240 modern ideas like um if i do good good will come to me it's it's more about doing right
01:23:55.520 and that has that that honor aspect that integrity aspect it's about doing what's right
01:24:00.880 and how humming is yes it's about the activation of the correct order of things and and moving
01:24:08.400 within that if it's it is a very powerful component because it can affect your hammer
01:24:16.720 it can affect your ego uh and and then by and large you know affecting all the other parts
01:24:22.800 but um it's also something that we see as something that's shareable it's something
01:24:28.240 that's also connective when we talk about frid a lot of people place that as an idea of just just
01:24:35.040 peace or, yeah, I guess peace or some people have even gone into the ideas of thinking about
01:24:42.540 it as pacifism or nonviolence. No, haminya is the connecting factor between the vertical of
01:24:51.560 the kin fence, the things that unite us together as individuals is our haminya. That's what
01:24:58.560 maintains that frith and you gain strength if you build that frith with someone you share
01:25:05.880 collectively with their hominia uh and it can expound in many different levels it's it's we
01:25:11.940 could think of it uh from the individual to the family we could think of it as the individual to
01:25:16.880 the tribe or individual to the the folk at large or the individual to the the church the community
01:25:24.060 however uh we see it also too in connection to the divine or the interaction to the divine
01:25:31.580 our hummingya is a boon that can be given to us if we unite and then maintain our own integrity
01:25:41.420 and build upon that and it's such a an important part that we even we we have a special point of
01:25:49.800 designation in which the Haminga is attached. And that is another thing that I think the reason why
01:25:55.460 when people downplay Haminga or place it into other components to kind of mash things together,
01:26:00.920 they really lose a lot of important things, including the cultural aspect. When we fasten
01:26:06.280 a name to a child, that is the bottom line of the writ seal that they are now collectively
01:26:17.300 interacting, sharing with, gaining from, and contributing to our Hemenya. And that is why
01:26:25.720 you can't, you should never downplay it. There are connecting and concentric circles
01:26:33.140 of Hemenya as well. Groups have a group Hemenya. One of the things I send out when I welcome
01:26:40.400 people into the Astro Folk Assembly is their connection to the Hemenya of the Astro Folk
01:26:45.860 assembly and they're tying in it's one of the reasons that being involved in the afa and
01:26:54.340 our priesthood in general have an elevated importance is it's a hymenia that's been
01:27:01.940 built over the decades um and it's a hymenia that
01:27:09.220 ties in with the with the rebirth of our faith it's a hymenia that is fundamentally
01:27:15.220 connected to the relationship between uh al-sharyagothi steven our founder and the all-father
01:27:23.940 that connection is passed down through our priesthood and by extension to to our afa family
01:27:30.740 as a whole so that's important to think of it as well certainly hyminga is luck but one thing
01:27:37.700 that's really important to realize about it is it's it's a commodity you can spend it you can
01:27:44.820 you can gift it to someone when you bestow a name upon a child you're extending a piece of
01:27:51.540 that person's hymenia upon that child when you name an object you're imbuing it with hymenia
01:27:59.460 when you when you when anything has a name or an identity it becomes it branches off and develops
01:28:06.580 it's hymenia you can seed that with some of your hymenia or a group's hymenia but luck is a is a
01:28:15.380 quantity that's why i don't anymore wish someone good luck unless i genuinely wish to bestow on
01:28:23.540 them a piece of my humming so a friend or someone i care about or someone who i very much support
01:28:29.700 in their in their struggle i will send some of my luck out to them but you know somebody i don't
01:28:38.100 like like good luck no i'm not going to waste my luck on somebody that i don't like or don't
01:28:45.540 support or isn't in alignment with isn't somebody that i want to spend a very real resource on
01:28:52.180 it's not that it can't be regenerated and it generates more one of the mysteries of fehu is
01:28:56.980 that spending of your resources to to spiral to gain more to become richer by circulating
01:29:05.220 but it is something that you you break a piece off when you wish somebody good luck you break
01:29:09.860 a piece off when you name a child or when you name a weapon or you you christen a ship um
01:29:19.620 but yeah that's that's part of the the hymenia yeah we tie it all up in part 10 but before we
01:29:26.260 get there swan could you tell us about part nine yes um well i also wanted to say too when when
01:29:36.180 we talk about the old stories in which um a king gives rings or because you had mentioned uh feo
01:29:46.100 the first rune hey when you mentioned the the first rune and we talk about that that uh liminal
01:29:54.100 power that power uh oftentimes has been played out in in our stories and in our in the events
01:30:01.380 in which say for instance if a king gives out his a ring to his men uh he is in essence not
01:30:10.180 just bestowing upon them a shiny gift he's giving them a piece of his haminya that ring is binding
01:30:17.700 that that fane or that that man or that uh that knight or whatever um word that we want to use
01:30:25.940 for it is uniting him to the hamina and the fact that the king is placing it out there giving a
01:30:34.580 piece of himself of his might of his of his works his deeds and and giving it to a a representative
01:30:45.700 of him his his hamina is being placed on the line there and so you gain from that and oftentimes too
01:30:54.020 there's an exchange uh uh like for instance there's the mark of the when the warriors gave their
01:31:01.380 combs uh to the king in respect uh back showing that they too have given an well first off it's
01:31:11.300 worth noting that combs in the elder times were extremely valuable items extremely hard to make
01:31:17.060 and there was a lot of care taken into them and this kind of harkens back again to the lick and
01:31:22.180 the discipline of of one's ego and physical body the the cleanliness and the representation of
01:31:30.340 that but it's also about the fact that this intimate object that's extremely valuable that
01:31:35.620 is used repeatedly building this this weird this orlog over and over and over again is given as a
01:31:43.620 representation back that the the unification of both sides have been made and have been met and
01:31:51.220 so this sense of haminya is discussed or at least presented in many of the stories um even when it
01:32:01.940 comes down to say a hero being guided to go to uh his his bride's uh father that goes to his bride
01:32:12.820 the bride's father's mound the the the mound in which he is uh buried in and in that mound he
01:32:20.660 receives a sword and that sword is in in essence again gaining a haminya as well as the physical
01:32:28.900 representation of what that sword means to implement his will so that is a very big
01:32:36.020 part and again it's a commodity um the last and final part the ninth part is the is one that uh
01:32:43.300 has a lot of mystery around it and again hamina and and this component get sometimes get jammed
01:32:48.820 together and i don't think that's correct and um so we should expound on a little bit more but this
01:32:53.380 one is called the philkia and the philkia is the follower that which follows um it is
01:33:05.700 deeply connected it's not separate from the soul um but it it is uh very similar to the english word
01:33:14.020 fetch and which you know something goes and and follows something to retrieve it um
01:33:20.100 And that is part of why its mystery is debated about. The Filchia in our stories has a general sense has always been perceived as either a proto-self, often symbolic in the form of an animal.
01:33:42.360 And this is important that we cover this. I think that a lot of new age ideals about like totems is something that we need to address before we can move on.
01:33:55.140 One of the big things I think that a lot of people don't understand about some Native American cultures that have this concept of a teacher and that this symbol changes as you grow older, for us, this symbol is like a birth symbol, but it is not actually the animal.
01:34:14.200 It is not – it isn't that animal. It takes that symbol to speak to your base mind what a lot of your overall, I guess, passed on and attained nature is.
01:34:40.520 it's the the what we would oftentimes call the ur self the proto self um and again this this
01:34:49.660 is very hard to conceptualize when we talk about the other components of the soul but the way i
01:34:56.820 could like when we talk about it in stories it would often be referred to as say for instance
01:35:01.040 two mighty people are conflicting with each other in an area and the folk remark on how they see
01:35:10.320 something happening uh for instance if they see two bulls fighting but these bulls are not known
01:35:16.920 to anyone they they're they're not owned by anyone but they're witnessed as these these two
01:35:23.540 bulls are interacting they're fighting and so suddenly it becomes kind of like a a reflection
01:35:29.920 of these two people's proto-selves the soul and it acts not independently but is capable of acting
01:35:42.000 outside of the self because the proto-self is uh moving in its base sense so if you are your will
01:35:52.280 your deeds your weird your your your integrity all of that is battling another mighty force
01:35:58.840 oftentimes in the stories it was represented they would see what like would be almost like
01:36:03.640 the physical manifestation of spiritual animals that are the symbols of those two souls um
01:36:13.160 this gets confused a lot with i think like totemic um concepts or animism which is not really a part
01:36:23.720 of our faith as it's understood that the philkia is a follower it connects to our soul and it thus
01:36:31.880 takes symbology of its proto-self and then adds even more confusion because the the ur self can
01:36:40.760 be elevated when we talk about the tenth component once the elevation of the soul enters into the
01:36:48.600 10th component the philkia changes and it is elevated since it follows you and takes in the
01:36:57.160 symbology of another effect and that is usually seen as the higher self the um the uh what is
01:37:04.440 the anima versus um or the the the polaric force of the soul in your base nature it is seen as the
01:37:13.320 elevated sense reflective and so if you ascend and your components become the 10th component
01:37:22.360 your philkia does also change
01:37:27.080 so
01:37:30.520 this one is complex and it can be confusing somebody over on the side said it could be
01:37:35.480 either animal human or a shape and that's exactly what dr flowers says i don't understand the shape
01:37:44.280 thing um it's a thing don't get me wrong it's not a thing that i would see because i don't
01:37:53.000 perceive in terms of shape um the idea of an animal but the other thing that this is often
01:38:01.480 viewed as or seen as by those with second sight, those in dreams, those with perception that way
01:38:10.960 is by an opposite gendered companion. By men, it would be a female often described as the Valkyrie.
01:38:22.080 It would be, you know, your female counterpart. We don't see this in lore just because
01:38:30.060 how lore is usually written but you know i would assume that for women perhaps this is
01:38:36.460 this is some kind of a male counterpart and in our understanding a lot of this is that
01:38:44.780 feminine or masculine side of the self that is separate and not integrated
01:38:52.060 and i think that's a way of explaining a lot of things the subconscious
01:38:55.980 the elements of yourself that are not fully integrated into your personality
01:39:01.980 they're connected to you and your soul but they exist outside they're that follower
01:39:07.640 they're that piece of you that's there that's in the back of your mind that's in the periphery
01:39:14.400 that's doing things external to you the closer you come to self-realization to ascension
01:39:23.140 to those things, the closer that gets to you. But this element of the self that is not integrated
01:39:32.260 into your personality, but is your primal self, is that primal layer, often the primal nature of
01:39:40.200 that is, I think, what is manifested in an animal form. I think that the part of it that's different
01:39:51.440 from who you are in a waking state that's different that's differentiated between your
01:39:56.340 conscious who you are and who you truly are who you know that layer of subconscious is
01:40:03.140 I realize that I'm moving my hand over across the screen that nobody can see I just realized that
01:40:09.560 but yeah that that shadow self not in a sense of bad but in a sense of those things that aren't
01:40:19.020 fully integrated and aren't fully acknowledged, but that are very central to the core of who you
01:40:24.820 are, that exists almost externally at the edge of being almost other. And that is there to advocate
01:40:36.280 for you, to protect you, to look out for you, to advocate in a way that you can't with your,
01:40:44.000 you know your very civilized self that you're trying to present that that other self out there
01:40:52.560 with your other interests involved is is fighting for you and looking on for you in a way
01:40:57.840 and the the closer integration of that gets more into what we're about to talk about on
01:41:05.360 part 10 here part 10 also means that when we're done talking about part 10 i will finally get to
01:41:11.460 of these questions because we've got some really good questions lining up i know and you're making
01:41:15.860 sure like move forward move forward move forward no i've got to it's a very long concept and i
01:41:21.780 think this is you know we're an hour and a half in and we haven't gotten to the first question yet
01:41:26.180 right that's a that's a first and i hope you guys are enjoying it this is a really i think
01:41:31.620 it's really important show and i think this information if we can internalize it and build
01:41:38.340 on it is very important but i do know it's a lot of listening to me and swan talk and not necessarily
01:41:44.100 get to some of the questions you guys are asking so i am aware of that so swan could you bring this
01:41:50.500 all together into part 10 or uh the 10th phase or whatever we want to call it because it's not
01:42:00.820 really a separate part right it's it's it's dependent on the soul being uh formulated
01:42:11.140 disciplined focused uh trained uh that we see this you know when we when we talk about the
01:42:18.020 harmony as a commodity and even the fetch as a commodity too because you can share uh or the
01:42:23.620 philkia you can share that with a group as a nation sometimes an animal symbol that represents
01:42:30.980 that that's another part but when we talk about the other the other is activated in particular
01:42:39.060 as we we teach it that it is it is the culmination of the hammer and the soul achieving all of the
01:42:49.540 components above them and below them become in alignment and when they do they can project
01:42:56.740 forward in an elevated state the person reaches what we would call the woad self which is an
01:43:04.580 english word woad um but in old norse it's older o-r-r their ubermitch yes the ecstatic self uh this
01:43:16.900 concept that we have can witness and have seen and are trying to attain oftentimes through our
01:43:24.180 disciplinary acts um are the achievement of the older the the best way to translate it would be
01:43:32.420 um a fervorous inspiration uh it sometimes is confused with uh almost like fury in and of
01:43:41.540 itself and it can manifest that way um sometimes it would be kind of to conceptualize i know many
01:43:48.020 people might be very familiar with berserker or or are the earth here the not that the wolf headed
01:43:54.500 warriors the idea of this transcendence into something of an ecstatic state that is furious
01:44:02.820 that is certainly a part of it a way to conceptualize it but there is more to it
01:44:11.140 than just that or or perhaps you could look at it as like uh placing different bits on the overall
01:44:18.260 power of the soul sometimes it can function out through music through poetry uh sometimes it can
01:44:24.980 it can function out through um um necessity and all of a sudden all of the parts align themselves
01:44:32.820 in a moment and there's this again transcendent state that's very similar to like what you had
01:44:39.780 mentioned before about the the mother suddenly physically lifting the car but also too it would
01:44:46.820 also be people seeing that and rushing to jump in because the the other self is is a like a
01:44:55.460 commodity in the sense that when you project it out there it draws people to you and it it brings
01:45:02.740 your soul and all of those components almost like a frequency uh it can affect the the the souls
01:45:10.340 around you it's this attainment when you have a hero lead a charge um you're right absolutely
01:45:22.100 when you talk about those moments i mentioned earlier about when you become more than you are
01:45:27.220 when that woman you know with her child all of a sudden she has the strength to lift this car
01:45:33.380 because it's not her lifting it it is her woe self it is her in the ultimate
01:45:41.460 so this is gonna date me but i'm gonna i'm gonna do it anyway because it entertains me to do so
01:45:46.580 so y'all remember altered beast and you get these little orbs and you start out as the
01:45:52.340 good shape dude and then you become the swole dude and then you become like the bear the wolf
01:45:58.100 or the dragon and you become this super version of yourself in the ascension of the self when
01:46:05.700 we talk about the hero you overcome limitations by functioning optimally in this soul complex
01:46:16.180 by uniting and integrating that other that subconscious that primal version of yourself
01:46:26.920 with your your under control astral self when you integrate all of those pieces functioning as well
01:46:35.840 oiled unified machine as one piece you become your woad self you are the better version of yourself
01:46:45.660 you are are the you that you should be you are the over man um and that's what we strive to get
01:46:54.540 close to if you're really lucky and you're really awesome maybe you can have flashes of that maybe
01:47:01.660 you can get close to that shoot hopefully we can all get to that but very few have but that ability
01:47:10.700 to become that moment where everything works and you are one unified force of will when
01:47:21.900 when the one guy picks up a sword and charges
01:47:27.500 yet all the army around him has to as if they're compelled to charge
01:47:33.660 and sometimes that happens and mysteriously this happened with george washington it also
01:47:39.980 happened with general nathan bedford forest he got so many horses shot out from under him and
01:47:46.300 holes in his you know holes in his uniform holes and stuff he was fine george washington i forget
01:47:52.780 which engagement he was at holes in all through his stuff but he wasn't hit by a shot and he had
01:48:02.540 that moment of like swan spoke about the old headnar or the berserker the imperviousness
01:48:10.860 to to pain and to to injury because they're in that perfect frenzy
01:48:18.700 and that's so much of the mystery of the all-father odin he is the master of inspiration
01:48:25.900 he's the master of the woad that's literally what his name is is he is the master of this
01:48:36.140 that we're talking about so that unity of self in the hero and the perfect version of you for
01:48:44.380 that moment that's you at your fullest potential that's you literally being all you can be
01:48:50.980 And we see that in moments. We see flashes of it. Sometimes, you know, if you're lucky, you'll get one flash of that in your lifetime. But cherish that if you do.
01:49:08.280 This is something I wanted to get back to. And I spoke about the hammer this way as well. Sometimes people see that version of you.
01:49:20.980 um they see your woe self and the idea is you know
01:49:27.580 you'll see a veteran or you'll see a an old king or an old you know hero they're old and
01:49:37.200 they're broken down and their mind's not functioning the way it used to and they're
01:49:42.620 hunched over and you know hoary with age but you can see that they've been there
01:49:51.000 they've seen what you haven't seen they've lived that woe self and it transcends you see that
01:49:58.920 presence when you are overcome by someone's presence and i think we've all experienced
01:50:07.320 this to one degree or another but the force that walks in that room isn't that hunched over veteran
01:50:16.440 it is his woe self it is him at his prime and it it overtakes all around him you see that I mean
01:50:27.580 we get the tiniest glimpse of that with celebrity or star power or other things
01:50:32.820 but when you have someone who has achieved that woe self even for a moment they carry that with
01:50:42.020 them for a lifetime and those with second sight those who are perceptive but even the rest of us
01:50:49.300 notice there's something different about that guy and uh and you can feel that kind of presence
01:51:00.020 and it's powerful and it's so hard for us to put mundane words too because it's whenever you want
01:51:08.340 to describe a transcendent experience it's very hard with language because it it literally
01:51:14.980 transcends language but we all feel it when certain person enters the room and you stand up straight
01:51:23.300 and you either you make sure you're not looking away or you're so intimidated you can't look that
01:51:30.900 person in the eye that's that load self being that's the power of that manifesting in your
01:51:37.780 presence and that's what we seek to do and that's one of the keys towards ascension and that's
01:51:45.060 something that's fun and i will talk about it two weeks from now specifically i wanted to bring up
01:51:51.860 because there is confusion between the hammer and the and the woad self and one thing i would say is
01:51:58.100 if the hammer projects into a room and affects people mentally physically emotionally
01:52:06.100 other does that plus even seems to build gravity around weird or time or space itself
01:52:17.940 Like you said, when the imperviousness of the moment, moving through a moment in which you would think that they wouldn't be able to do, and all of a sudden it seems that fate itself is conjoined with the perfection of the soul at that moment.
01:52:37.280 and it has a an ability to contort the uh weird around or the the orlog around by pulling people
01:52:48.320 in by affecting the things around it and it literal literal gravitas literal gravitas yes
01:52:56.840 um one thing that i think is the challenge in all of our lives
01:53:06.220 is closing the distance between who we are today and our woed self.
01:53:15.760 Achieving that potential of who we should and could be and who we are now and getting ever closer.
01:53:25.140 And the object is obviously to become that woed self.
01:53:29.000 but every inch we get closer to it is progress and is a source of pride
01:53:37.340 um
01:53:38.780 that's the struggle that we all face and i think that
01:53:46.340 in christian circles i don't know if it's still a thing but way back when it was what would jesus
01:53:54.420 do is closing the distance between you and jesus in our faith it's much more the idea of what would
01:54:05.780 your idealized self be if you could write the saga of your life who would you be no wait you can write
01:54:18.820 the saga of your life so be that that you would make yourself be the person you would will yourself
01:54:27.700 to become be that and it's a million times harder to do than it is for me to say
01:54:37.540 but in a way that is the purpose of life and existence
01:54:42.180 become that person and that's the challenge before all of us
01:54:48.820 Yeah, that attainment is so interesting because of the dichotomy. We don't separate ourselves. We don't try to separate ourselves from, but we try to elevate all to project forward into and out around us.
01:55:08.040 we're not closing ourselves off
01:55:10.320 we are
01:55:10.820 building
01:55:12.620 I think closing ourselves off
01:55:14.760 could be a way to help
01:55:16.420 maybe discipline parts of the soul
01:55:18.120 but the ultimate point
01:55:19.440 is to reach the potential
01:55:20.700 that the gods know
01:55:21.540 that we can attain
01:55:22.760 because that's when
01:55:24.000 they will witness us
01:55:25.000 and at two hours in
01:55:30.100 we will begin to take questions
01:55:32.640 oh boy
01:55:33.560 no this is a really good one tonight
01:55:37.360 i'm really glad we're doing this so as promised two hours ago tyler uh tyler sacred folk builder
01:55:46.000 in new hampshire anybody in new hampshire this is the guy you should talk to doing big things
01:55:53.520 uh donated it's been so long i don't think it's even showing upright but on uh
01:56:00.240 on entropy. I think he donated $20. How does the individual soul and the folk soul benefit
01:56:08.980 and interact with each other? And I think that's a really good question.
01:56:15.860 Svon, what are your thoughts?
01:56:19.240 Sometimes when we talk about the folk soul, there's two parts to that that we,
01:56:23.940 and since it's not specified, I'll cover both. There is the folk soul that oftentimes may be
01:56:29.800 referred to as, say, the collective conscious or the collective unconscious or the living energy
01:56:36.780 between the living people. And so that sometimes is seen as the emanation of the folk soul in the
01:56:45.340 living. And again, the individual soul and our honing of that obviously is to gain a boon
01:56:53.020 towards the living folk soul that is present, that connection between us. I refer to it,
01:56:59.400 you know like i was saying frith frith is uh again is another word that i i think gets downplayed a
01:57:05.960 lot but that frith is about loyalty frith is about integrity frith is about your deeds it's about
01:57:12.360 your oaths it's about your everything is culminated in there and that is the con like the uh the
01:57:20.440 building blocks of the living material folk soul there is also the folk soul of of those who have
01:57:28.920 have gone before us and when we sometimes in in our faith i hear people talk about the folk soul
01:57:34.440 in a sense of a destination in which we will arrive when our soul is uh passes on and again
01:57:41.720 that's next next uh episode but the um that folk soul also benefits again because there is uh
01:57:52.120 cyclical parts in which the folk soul interacts with the cosmos and so a soul that returns
01:58:00.600 to the folk soul with much gravity around it much might much luck and is is distributing it through
01:58:09.960 to the children and and to the people that are left behind and then in turn bringing it into
01:58:16.120 with the ancestors that also it's it's all about boon the boon of this uh of this individual soul
01:58:25.000 elevates the collective uh whether it's the living or the ancestral which are not really divided but
01:58:32.840 i you know to see it in certain ways as um the the material versus the the um metaphysical soul
01:58:41.480 of the folk but always it's about boon bringing that to the table
01:58:50.680 so
01:58:53.480 the folk soul
01:58:56.760 infuses the individual when the individual is in tune with their ancestors so here's the thing
01:59:05.240 modern american white kid that grows up in the hood that his parents don't teach him the schools
01:59:17.280 don't teach him he knows there's more but he doesn't know how to access that
01:59:23.220 when that same person is raised in a family that teaches him tradition
01:59:31.180 in a faith that connects him to our gods and to his ancestors
01:59:36.420 he's able to integrate that folk soul into his life because he's immersed in it the folk soul
01:59:45.860 is the collective experience the collective history and the collective memory of our folk
01:59:51.420 by ritual and by cultural immersion that manifests itself
01:59:59.480 and it empowers that individual to do great things
02:00:04.140 and to draw upon that very, very deep and beautiful well.
02:00:10.480 That's how it interacts with the individual.
02:00:12.640 How the individual interacts with the folk soul
02:00:15.080 is that they live the biggest best life they can
02:00:23.980 and part of that part of that memory part of those achievements part of that increased
02:00:33.980 hymenia adds to that well of our collective folk soul for the next generation and it's
02:00:43.000 it's directly increased by what that individual puts in it that was a good question tyler and i
02:00:49.400 think it's something that a lot of people think about and then i believe again it's been so long
02:00:55.480 that it's like screwed up the dollar amount believe for ten dollars thank you travis another folk
02:01:00.920 builder of the afa travis bodish in colorado boys in colorado are doing great things
02:01:07.720 that was a fairly stagnant region for us for a long time and now it's it's doing wonderful things
02:01:14.760 love seeing that travis you and nick are doing a great job so he says hail the folk
02:01:20.040 hail the gods hail the afa hail victory absolutely hail hail all right now to our first other
02:01:30.120 regular questions this one comes from bode my good friend bode i hope he's still with us over
02:01:38.280 in the chat i know it's been a couple hours uh all right can you explain how i think bode asked
02:01:44.520 this honestly before we even started talking if i remember the side chat correctly uh can you explain
02:01:51.320 how the soul sickness our folks suffer from affects the different parts of the soul
02:01:58.200 there he is. He's over on the side chat. Good to have you here, Bodhi. Svon, what do you think
02:02:03.840 about how our soul sickness creeps into those different pieces of our soul complex?
02:02:11.540 I think we've kind of touched on it. You just touched on it a little bit too, about
02:02:15.200 people that feel disconnected from their culture, people that feel disconnected from their families,
02:02:19.860 or people that feel disconnected from an overall longing or yearning towards a truth
02:02:30.440 that they know is within them and that nothing that's being laid out before them presents the
02:02:36.780 key to attaining the confirmation of the truth that they feel inside, that they're contemplating
02:02:46.180 it and they know it's there and that's the mystery i think that the gods don't uh see us as uh
02:02:57.620 something that they just they they they toss at something to us to attain in essence the process
02:03:04.420 of the soul again what we've been talking about this attainment of the possibility of what you
02:03:09.300 you can be is integral to um the wellness and the wholeness of the soul and so any of those
02:03:18.540 components can be affected in what we refer to as the soul sickness um it is an it is an ailment it
02:03:26.780 is when there is parts of us that are unwhole and that cause that dis-ease within us um it can take
02:03:35.200 to the physical form um when we you know are taught to consume you know terrible foods or or
02:03:45.520 uh or that we you know imbibe in things over much and we physically deter ourselves um you know it
02:03:55.040 it is said that you know even cows know when to go home from feeding it's nothing worse than when a
02:04:00.640 man doesn't know his own limits so we have uh sometimes there's this consumptive nature that
02:04:07.520 i think affects the the physical body um and of the mind or the e or say let's say the ego the ego
02:04:16.160 that sickness oftentimes takes place in when a man or a woman doesn't understand their worth
02:04:22.640 and so or their worth has been attacked by malicious people oftentimes it could be family
02:04:28.960 members it could be friends or so-called friends uh colleagues and competition and um or people
02:04:36.080 that you know uh just fundamentally disagree with you and they try to attack your your ego and and
02:04:41.920 um so there there is this sense of not understanding your worth when you lose sight of your
02:04:47.440 worth then those attacks have that they have an effect and so about understanding your worth if
02:04:55.840 there is a soul sickness of the mind most certainly i would say it's in in the form of confusion or
02:05:02.640 in the form of conditioning where we see something that innately goes against the moral constructs
02:05:09.120 of our of our society or of our culture of our family or even just internally within ourselves
02:05:14.800 and and we're conditioned to to hide that or to accept it or then that that starts that
02:05:21.600 part of that soul sickness um uh in in memory when we lose contact of what we're uh you know
02:05:30.380 of the way things were um recorded or written down or or kept separate from that's the other
02:05:37.360 another so each of the components can have um a part of that the soul you know when it when it
02:05:44.060 is taught to um you know seek complete and utter um you know observance or or um i would say like
02:05:56.540 uh you know the the slavery of the self to um without ever considering it's a you must just
02:06:03.340 drive the car until into the horizon until it dies and that's all you should be concerned with
02:06:09.980 them as long as you do that you will be rewarded that is again part of the sickness of the soul
02:06:16.140 the soul is something that we must cultivate it's it's a it's a garden it's um it's uh
02:06:21.660 you know we have to tend to the wheels we have to tend to all of the parts of the car and it's not
02:06:27.500 about just driving it you know being slave to the motion of it or the purpose of of it so
02:06:33.740 when we don't get a chance to to internalize correctly and then externalize and implement
02:06:40.060 our soul in the world uh we we start to get that sickness and um uh again our hammer is oftentimes
02:06:47.820 reflective of that it's it's like the soul ego um again and uh when we do deeds that continually
02:06:57.420 bring us into states where we're compromised by um our integrity or things of that nature
02:07:05.260 and life is complex and so there's always kind of um a sense of the way things are perceived
02:07:11.740 and the way things that are done but ultimately one of the biggest soul sicknesses around
02:07:17.200 that i've noticed is that people have this detriment of doom in which they feel like
02:07:22.040 they have woven themselves so deeply that they cannot move them, that their will, their hamur
02:07:28.960 and their literal body and their ego is incapable of moving them out or moving them away from that
02:07:36.480 woven weird. That is a sickness too, because haminya, again, is a commodity that decreases
02:07:44.300 and increases, which means if you feel or perceive that it is low or you know that it is low just
02:07:49.940 because of everything that's kind of happening it can go up and so one of the the sicknesses
02:07:56.500 of of humming is doubt um doubt in oneself doubt in one's abilities to to pull up and out of it um
02:08:06.500 you know and uh your your the sickness of of the ur self the proto self is when we start to see
02:08:14.180 people who are deeply confused one of the big things about the philkia and this this is a
02:08:19.140 sickness again we can we can relate to a lot of different things but the philkia and the ur self
02:08:24.260 are so component when we talk about numbers and in uh teutonic um uh perception of the universe
02:08:32.580 when you talk about the self the one we are always just like everything else in the world
02:08:37.860 made up of two there is the animus and the anima there is the male and the female there is the
02:08:42.580 polaric forces of of you know up and down there is you know dyer and not there is you know sunnah
02:08:50.340 and mauni all things have polaric balancing forces that keep the one centered so if the one is
02:08:59.220 centered the two must be and there's confusion that people have in this and they lose sense of
02:09:05.300 one side of their of their the polarities and it spirals out they become lost they don't know who
02:09:12.260 they are what they are or why they are um and so they have lost the the components of their souls
02:09:19.380 of of a you know a man seeing the polaric force of himself if that's lost if that's if that's um
02:09:29.380 you know ruined or completely just disconnected from they end up going down this road of delusion
02:09:35.140 and uh and and uh dysphoria comes over their head and so you can see it play placing out in other
02:09:43.220 parts of their soul where that confusion that sickness is taken root even down to the basic
02:09:50.500 concepts of of our existence as men and women in this world um we cease to function like the rest
02:09:58.980 of divinity we there is no day and night anymore it's all dawn and dusk ishness and so it because
02:10:08.660 it causes confusion we need those polaric forces we need the the the vanaheim of life and the
02:10:14.900 jotunheim of of of uh resistance against life so that it can grow and form there's this takes place
02:10:22.740 it's fire it's ice and once you lose one of those you can see the soul sicknesses is uh disillusioned
02:10:31.700 so yeah all of those components various ways it enters in and then affects
02:10:37.460 the individual soul in so many different ways all right so body it's not fair you typed a little
02:10:43.140 tiny question and it it necessitates huge answers from both of us so i want to um run this down
02:10:51.860 there'll be a there'll obviously be overlap with stuff that swan said um soul sickness affecting leak
02:11:05.700 the body positive movement the acceptance of almost a race to mediocrity that we see now
02:11:13.220 now the way that society tries to not encourage you to be the best that you can be physically
02:11:21.920 but to try to tell us all it's okay to be suboptimal don't be you know don't be ableist
02:11:31.640 don't be you know ugly is no all of the things that are natural to our soul push us to be
02:11:42.200 strong and to be healthy to be beautiful and the things that glorify the ugly and the misshapen
02:11:53.720 and the unhealthy literally are killing us and they're feeding us stuff that's not true
02:12:02.200 and the fundamental reaction of our peers of the opposite sex of all the things that are real we
02:12:09.720 face those consequences but society is telling us this constant message of you know no that's just
02:12:18.360 ableism no that's just you know fat shaming good there should be some some of that fix yourself
02:12:25.000 come on we should all be the best we should be doesn't mean i'm there yet but it means i'm trying
02:12:30.840 and i hope everybody listening is trying as far as the eck and the ego our soul sickness
02:12:38.120 this cuts at that profoundly. We're filled with self-doubt. We're filled with
02:12:46.700 from our own soul sickness and from the society that we find ourselves in currently. We're filled
02:12:54.860 with, you know, questioning our worth, questioning our value, holding our head down,
02:13:03.060 with being ashamed or afraid to speak proudly about who we are, about what we believe, about
02:13:10.580 where we come from. And that's, it's not just toxic, it's lethal. What we have seen with the
02:13:22.800 increase in young white males, specifically suicides, it's literally lethal to us.
02:13:29.320 In terms of Huger, we have got so many more trivial, worthless things to focus our mind on.
02:13:48.140 And I don't mean entertainment. I mean, stresses of the world to worry about and to be obsessive about.
02:14:02.540 Our soul sickness has allowed our economic structure to be one where both parties have to work and work very hard and work double shifts and focus on punching a clock or working an assembly line.
02:14:16.260 all those things take away from our ability to focus the healer on those transcendent things
02:14:24.800 on bettering the self on building for our folk all of the stresses in our monetary system the
02:14:31.680 stresses in our you know can I say this is this woke enough am I going to be canceled what am I
02:14:37.420 going to worry about here you know am I cool enough are these genes trendy enough or are they
02:14:45.140 dad genes all those little things take away the potency of the humor on important things
02:14:57.300 the many our soul sickness has taught us to be ashamed of who we are and where we came from
02:15:04.740 because our ancestors just won too damn much so we should feel bad for winning all the time
02:15:11.460 um every current trends would tell us that every one of our ancestors past our grandfather's
02:15:22.060 generation was a horrible hateful bigot racist evil person every generation of our folk that
02:15:30.720 have op that have occupied midgard since ask and embla are horrible bigots because they weren't
02:15:39.400 woke enough until the last two generations maybe three if you're really young
02:15:46.600 it's a lie it's not true but it's infected the soul of our folk in a profound way
02:15:54.280 owned um our current soul sickness has separated us from our gods made our connection to divinity
02:16:06.200 go through the the jewish god of the desert for generations and now there's no connection with
02:16:13.560 divinity at all in the west the the biggest train of thought is atheism and a complete rejection
02:16:22.760 of the divine and of the sacred and that's been poisonous to us of our hammer affecting our
02:16:32.440 individual hammer maybe maybe not but it's taken away so many of our abilities to see hammer
02:16:41.080 because culturally we'll we're taught that only the things you can see with your eye are things
02:16:47.080 that count any other perception is worthless or is silly or is is nonsense and non-scientific
02:16:56.200 so we only see the lens through the world through a scientific lens through a um
02:17:02.440 a quantitative lens and it restricts our ability to perceive hammer
02:17:10.900 um as far as the cell we're told through the atheist tenets of the world that our soul is
02:17:21.480 finite it's not really a thing we just happen to be alive for reasons that we can't quantify but
02:17:29.920 it takes away the sacrality of our our individual souls and it makes us disposable it makes us
02:17:39.120 interchangeable and it diminishes consequence if i were to remove your soul from midgard or you
02:17:49.920 were to remove mine or if we're so depressed by all the other things they put on if we were to
02:17:57.180 remove our own souls from midgard and that's very dangerous and we see that as far as hymenia goes
02:18:08.220 we're no longer taught to stand by our commitments or to stand by our word
02:18:15.660 honors no longer a thing it's it's something silly or something archaic
02:18:21.740 so our people don't safeguard hymenia they don't treasure it they don't store it up they don't use
02:18:28.060 it sparingly they don't care about it because what does it matter if there's no gods and there's
02:18:35.980 no afterlife and there's no divinity and there's no soul then we don't concentrate on building
02:18:43.580 hymenia and when our hymenia is measured we're found wanting um to our philgia we're told to
02:18:55.340 suppress that philgia we're told that the inclinations of man's and this has been told
02:19:03.020 to our people for a thousand years the abrahamists have taught us that the inclination of man's heart
02:19:09.740 is upon evil from the day of his birth, that we're to separate ourselves from our deeper
02:19:17.260 selves, you keep that hidden as best as possible, because all of those er feelings, all of those
02:19:27.160 subconscious things are literally the devil. We've been told that for a millennium.
02:19:35.560 And now it's not so much that they're the devil, but that's just silly.
02:19:42.600 That's just hocus pocus. Don't think about that. Don't acknowledge that.
02:19:48.300 If you don't acknowledge it, then how could you ever hope to integrate it?
02:19:53.560 If you don't acknowledge it, how could you ever hope to reach that woed self?
02:19:59.120 That brings us to the last part, the woed self.
02:20:01.520 The only self that our current soul sickness is taught to recognize is the leak, and we're supposed to degenerate that.
02:20:14.660 All of those things that celebrate the woed self are degraded by the cult of ugly that society has celebrated.
02:20:29.340 it beauty is an object of shame but ugly in the the gross and the obscene is celebrated
02:20:38.740 and in that case when you encounter and you see and you perceive the woed body of someone
02:20:46.100 out of hand you have to reject that because it's it's too toxic in its masculinity it's
02:20:53.940 too overwhelming in its you know misogyny or in its you know any of these other nonsense woke
02:21:02.700 garbage but we're almost the soul sickness that we suffer almost fortifies us against becoming
02:21:15.160 our woed self or celebrating and not and acknowledging that woe self in others
02:21:21.740 One of the things aside from this that I think is unique is the Hindu or the Dharmic saying namaste.
02:21:33.260 The idea of the divine in me recognizes the divine in you.
02:21:41.080 The concept of your higher self seeing that within someone else is deliberately blocked by the soul sickness that we face.
02:21:51.740 And this is, you know, 20 minutes of me and Swan talking about negative stuff.
02:21:57.980 It's precipitated by the question because there's a lot of positive things tonight and I don't want to get morose, but it was the question and we went there because we had to.
02:22:06.420 And it was a very good question. Our next question. I want to learn more about the Astro Academy.
02:22:13.560 I think that's a nice break and I'll tell you a little bit about where we're at.
02:22:17.480 So we're almost done with the very first year of the Astro Academy.
02:22:21.740 now our first year we just had a kindergarten curriculum those kids have done really well
02:22:28.780 those parents have stuck with it and done very well they're very happy with the program that we
02:22:35.660 presented and we've spent this time building on it um when i say we dean rob stamm and his
02:22:44.780 volunteers he has under him have spent so much time making this amazing thing for our children
02:22:55.100 the first year has gone wonderfully so far and during the last school year now we made
02:23:02.060 a commitment that at the very least we're going to follow these kids up to graduating class of
02:23:07.260 i think 2035 to be there for them at each additional grade so next year we'll have
02:23:13.580 first grade next the year after that we'll have second we've surpassed that in this fall
02:23:21.260 this very coming fall in 2023 we will enroll kindergarteners through third graders
02:23:29.340 so that's huge the work they've put in this fall we're going to take like i said four grades of
02:23:35.820 our children um a couple of things about it one of the big barriers we've seen towards homeschooling
02:23:43.580 is uncertainty. Uncertainty, you know, will this be legitimate for the state that we live in? Will
02:23:50.400 it be compliant? Will this, you know, is this going to count? Is this going to be good enough?
02:23:55.480 Are we going to run into problems? One of the biggest things that we've talked about in our
02:24:01.340 homeschool and that I've said from day one is no, our job is to hold the hands of these parents
02:24:06.500 to make sure that our curriculum is meeting the requirements of every state these parents find
02:24:12.980 themselves in. And that's why that's one of the benefits we give having such a spread out
02:24:18.320 membership is we get to test this and learn from a variety of different states. We are very committed
02:24:26.760 to being your partner in your child's education to help make sure that it meets the standard for
02:24:36.200 the state that you live in, whatever that state might be, and a couple of provinces in Canada,
02:24:40.940 it turns out so we'll meet all of those things and make sure that it works it's legit it's good
02:24:51.260 and it'll uh benefit your children so like i said i'm looking forward to in you know over
02:24:57.340 the summer we are enrolling kindergarteners through third graders and i'm looking forward
02:25:03.500 and exciting to when aubrey's old enough to be in the afa academy so i'm very personally committed to
02:25:09.340 it next question what exactly is valhalla hell in the various afterlives are they literal places
02:25:22.700 or are they symbolic if symbolic what do they symbolize
02:25:29.580 we're waiting on spawn for just a second something's going on with his video that's
02:25:33.580 fine i'll go ahead and throw my two cents in first
02:25:39.020 so literal and corporeal are two separate things yes they are all they are real places absolutely
02:25:49.740 um there are symbolic elements and our understanding of the landscape of those
02:25:59.420 places and the components of those places do bear into symbolism. The idea of Valhalla is
02:26:08.720 one part of a bigger idea concept of us going, of us ascending, of us becoming more than we are
02:26:19.320 and going to a place where we regularly commune with the gods. Doesn't mean that we
02:26:27.900 um apotheos and become one of the you know big g gods of our folk but we become something much
02:26:36.660 more than we are and we're selected to share the presence of our gods to live with them to dine
02:26:45.780 with them to celebrate with them to enjoy in a in a more direct communion with them
02:26:51.540 um hellheim that idea of the shade
02:27:00.660 stasis to a degree afterlife world where we're with our ancestors but where activity is slowed
02:27:11.980 way down to where the frequency is much lower but spending that time in stasis in that uh in the womb
02:27:23.020 that is the tomb with our ancestors
02:27:28.460 you can see that symbolized that way it's not a you know a realm of torture or miserable place
02:27:34.540 we see when balder spends time in hell he's he's celebrated he's feasted and he's treated very well
02:27:41.980 Um, but that realm with the ancestors in the mound is, is symbolized by our understanding of hell in its, in its broad sense.
02:27:55.080 But like I said, they're literal places.
02:27:59.940 They may not be corporeal in the sense of you can't climb up the rainbow and go visit your, your buddy in Valhalla.
02:28:08.460 it doesn't work that way but you can ascend you know possibly after life if the gods find you
02:28:14.860 worthy you can ascend and find your soul with your friends in the halls of our gods if you
02:28:22.620 if you are so fortunate to to earn that spot what what do you say svan yeah i've i knew this was
02:28:32.620 gonna happen especially in relation to next um with with with the next episode uh i would say
02:28:39.740 i'm gonna i'm gonna answer it more broadly in order to build anticipation for uh the next
02:28:45.820 episode that we will leave one more yes um we have a varied path remember if just looking tonight at
02:28:57.020 the soul and it's complex there is variable pathways of as the soul uh breaks apart there
02:29:08.460 is inclinations or directions in which we place ourselves within the multitude of of the cosmos
02:29:18.540 and when we speak of the halls um understanding how we get to those halls why we get to those
02:29:28.460 halls and what those halls are is very important upon uh our aspects of the of afterlife um
02:29:38.460 you know the halls themselves are the gods themselves they are the containment in which we
02:29:45.820 we are brought in our soul might is added in much like our soul might is added to say the folk soul
02:29:53.020 or the halls of our ancestors um hell guard too is uh it's two functioning in the sense that one it
02:30:05.020 it's clear that hell guard or hell heim or or just hell in general um and it's you know her synonymous
02:30:12.940 with death and the act of dying and that which is of death kind of correlates very similar to what
02:30:19.820 i would say modern concepts of uh like a uh i'm not gonna say she is the grim reaper it's the
02:30:30.220 it's death it's the end of all things i oftentimes call it the hall of the calamities because as it
02:30:36.700 is described as being the place in which the instigators of that which makes things end.
02:30:44.380 The venom, the death, the shade, the timelessness, a lot of that. But we're going to go into a lot
02:30:51.580 of that and how all of that works as far as the soul, the ancestral folk soul, the processes of
02:31:00.660 death the ascension of the soul the placements of things that of titles that we see the soul
02:31:06.540 attain in the cycle of all things including elevated uh to the gods or somewhere in between
02:31:14.540 um and ancestral worship and how it plays in and why the gods um are a part of this process of
02:31:23.060 ordering um literally from the top down um but yeah that's i just wanted to kind of
02:31:32.020 sprinkle in a little bit of what we're going to be talking about next week
02:31:35.540 i wish i could answer that more but and you will yeah you will we will definitely hit that a lot
02:31:44.180 two weeks from now next question is a gothi like a priest or something no a gothi is not like a
02:31:51.460 priest or so something a gothi is in fact a priest um the female variant is a githya
02:32:00.820 collectively we are known as gothar um but yeah we're literally priests of the icr
02:32:10.420 uh next question how important is using correct pronunciation when referring to the gods or other
02:32:17.700 pagan terms um so there's a lot of ways you can take that how important is it that we are masters
02:32:30.740 of old norse not important at all is it cool yeah i think it's neat is it an act of devotion
02:32:40.660 and an act of respect to try to do it well absolutely um do you have to no of course not
02:32:49.620 um if you're more comfortable anglicizing things or referring to things you know to the best of
02:32:55.140 your ability absolutely the gods they hear your words but they see into your heart as well
02:33:02.900 if you mean well i don't think that they're out there judging you on your ability to pronounce
02:33:09.380 old norse i think we're really benefited here to have svan with us because he's a native icelander
02:33:16.980 and it's said that modern icelandic and old norse are um mutually understandable they are different
02:33:25.780 but it was you know i think someone said if a viking you know found themselves in 2023 reykjavik
02:33:32.740 they would understand what people are saying and people would understand what they were saying
02:33:39.860 so yeah i think it's a it's it's kind of a neat way to connect
02:33:43.940 with our ancestors in our past i always think it's a respectful thing with names um
02:33:51.700 so if you find names in a foreign language and they introduce themselves most of them we have
02:33:59.060 ways to anglicize and some people do it but i always think it's more respectful to use
02:34:05.140 the native pronunciation of their names you know i i work with guys like it's like when you interact
02:34:13.460 with uh south americans or mexicans or things that way and you know their name's jose you could call
02:34:20.980 him joe and i suppose it works and they may introduce themselves that way but i think it's
02:34:24.900 respectful to refer to them as jose or alejandro you could call him alexander and you're not wrong
02:34:32.020 there's no no crime against it but i think it's a nice gesture to use their native names and
02:34:38.420 that's why it's important to me with the gods that in afa literature we try to do that because those
02:34:44.820 are the the first version of those names that we have recorded in our sacred lore you know you
02:34:53.460 don't need to refer to him as odin with the th sound and the two ends and i'm sure if you talk
02:35:00.420 to odin odin gets what you're saying but i do think it's nice and it's an it's an extra layer
02:35:06.340 of devotion that we like to lay on certainly don't have to but i think that's our motivation
02:35:11.780 in trying to do it what are your thoughts on it swan yeah um i mean in relations to the gods no
02:35:21.140 it's it's more about understanding how information about the gods perhaps in the english or the
02:35:27.620 anglosphere uh came about knowing that when um you know they were translating and bringing about
02:35:36.020 a lot of this they did it in german they did it in english they had to change certain things they
02:35:40.900 did change certain certain things they took liberties where certain letters might not have
02:35:45.540 existed in typing or text and so they took the liberties of changing things or adding things or
02:35:50.980 removing things and understanding that uh you know the the icelandic or written as or old norse you
02:36:01.540 know seeing like the goddess frig and understanding that they anglicized it to frigga they added an a
02:36:08.900 or or or the our senior if we were to call them you know the goddesses our senior um which means
02:36:16.180 goddess uh that was not that kind of stood in the way of a lot of the translations of things
02:36:23.860 so instead of trying to fully explain it or create a lexicon a lot of the early uh writers just wrote
02:36:30.420 down the equivalency um but uh you know even the awesome uh it was often written down simply as
02:36:38.020 iduna um and there is that evolution coming from the norse into the anglosphere then there
02:36:48.980 is the disconnection between the anglo language and modern english that's also caused a lot of
02:36:54.820 confusion uh if we were you know to speak of of woden amongst the um anglo-saxons but not all of
02:37:02.900 the um lore from the norse uh it's it's much more fragmented amongst from the germans and the uh
02:37:10.180 and the english so going back to the norse is important in the sense that it is the most
02:37:18.100 complete lexicon and then out of respect and also urging people to learn it because it helps you
02:37:26.500 with uh determining translation if you just take translation on its face value you're denying
02:37:34.420 yourself the ability to perceive nuances about the god that you could gain by simply just taking a
02:37:42.020 little time to learn some rules and um you know even if it was just the base of opening up an old
02:37:50.580 norse dictionary or um language like uh rules and knowing like what some of the the what odd
02:37:58.900 letters that would be odd to us the rules that apply to them and what what the sound would be
02:38:04.100 and it causes confusion especially like i noticed um amongst i never placed a heavy emphasis on it
02:38:10.820 but even amongst like the our senior there are two hours in your uh v it's spelled v-o-r v-a-r
02:38:18.020 and it would look like vor and var but the pronunciation is actually extremely different
02:38:23.940 because the letters it's actually var and valor and so knowing those rules helps you to better
02:38:32.100 pronounce because it also helps you to better understand the meaning in the name why odin um
02:38:41.300 you know we talk about like somewhere along as linguistics changed these were added in
02:38:47.220 where w's were uh the v sound kind of overtook the w sometimes it was completely dropped so you know
02:38:53.780 like the the english and the germans say vote wooden and votan but the norse say oven um is
02:39:02.580 because of that drop and it it does go forward i know some people like in sweden when they speak of
02:39:08.020 thor or in iceland it's it's thor thor is called tor it's like a tor it's almost like a mash of
02:39:16.740 the two so it's it's an interesting exercise but it's by no means something that i think you should
02:39:23.460 have as a hurdle it's just something that you learn and help with your learning of the
02:39:28.900 translations of the stories as you go along but not about relationship to the gods so
02:39:36.340 pronunciation it's not important obviously we don't want to sound silly but what is very
02:39:44.100 important is etymology, understanding the names, understanding the terms, not just what they mean
02:39:51.760 in modern English, but what their root is, is very important. And I think that's, that's essential.
02:40:00.320 And we strive really hard to do that. And that adds, that adds so much to our understanding
02:40:09.720 of our lore is understanding the etymology of names specifically and and also understanding
02:40:17.820 through translations even of the old norse sometimes they were dealing with as they were
02:40:22.360 writing things down they knew how to say the word but didn't know the correct vowel to use
02:40:27.860 so sometimes something might be written as like sulkin and then elsewhere might be written as
02:40:34.140 Psykin, and that has a difference on its meaning. So understanding those things does help you.
02:40:42.760 But as far as if you call Odin, Odin, it's okay. And seek to build the relationship first.
02:40:53.940 The language comes later, and it's more about each other. It's about us. And of course,
02:40:58.820 the church tries to hold to the most complete lexicon uh and and that that testament of speaking
02:41:06.820 old norse or using the old norse names and working on the pronunciations um is again more or less
02:41:13.620 beckoning you to just spurn you on to investigate and look further in to the understandings of the
02:41:20.340 etymology and the and the sounds um our next question speaking of donations i was speaking
02:41:30.340 of that like two and a half hours ago uh is it a thing that if you donate a certain amount towards
02:41:36.660 a hof you get your name on a plaque there if so what was the donation amount absolutely it is a
02:41:42.660 thing and the donation amount is 500 doesn't have to be all at once it can also be collectively
02:41:50.340 but yeah we have a donation plat like a plaque for donors in each of our hops and that's the
02:41:58.420 amount that gets your name up there and the follow-up question can supporters who don't
02:42:03.700 qualify for membership get their names on place on the plaque absolutely uh we appreciate any
02:42:10.340 donations for that we understand that you know maybe that'll come from people that are
02:42:14.900 not of our folk or not of our faith and we really appreciate those donations and that support
02:42:20.340 um yeah we appreciate anybody that wants to give towards what we're doing
02:42:27.780 uh what happens at the lc christians and celebration well i am fortunate i have
02:42:34.340 been to the first two and i'm going to go to the third one it's a national event basically like any
02:42:41.060 other afa event you go and you spend part of the day friday sometimes the whole day friday the
02:42:48.580 whole day saturday and then part of the day sunday with your folk um we camp at that site
02:42:55.540 it has cabins and things um share meals there will be presentations there will be bloats there's
02:43:05.220 probably a bloat that's going to honor elsie herself there's a bloat typically i'll lead an
02:43:11.860 odin bloat um there'll be discussions about the folk mother and throughout the you know
02:43:20.900 we'll set up an altar in the main area and um you know make offerings and do our our observances at
02:43:30.660 the altar and say different things and learn different things about the life of the folk
02:43:35.380 mother and celebrate her and keep her in our minds while we're there and it's a good chance
02:43:41.060 for our folk in that area specifically with wikonson but we get a lot of people from
02:43:46.740 surrounding states uh to go and spend time celebrating with our folk so it's themed about
02:43:54.580 the folk mother but there's a lot of other things that go on and like i say it's about a
02:43:59.460 you know two and a half three day event and should be a really nice time the first two have been
02:44:06.340 fantastic i'm looking forward to this one uh it's hosted by uh two folk builders james and his wife
02:44:14.260 sarah alt and they host an amazing event i'll tell you what they they do really well as far as any
02:44:23.620 singular you know person or or group they host the best event as far as their logistics
02:44:31.460 the food situation is on point they take really good care of you
02:44:36.740 and they have a lot of personal devotion to the full mother so it's a special time and i'm looking
02:44:41.060 forward to it christian folk belief says that a ghost is a trapped soul kind of part of the
02:44:50.900 soul complex actually get trapped in midgard and can any part ever be destroyed it's fun
02:44:58.340 what say you well uh we kind of talked about this and i know this is probably from a long time ago
02:45:05.540 question asked uh when we talked about the hammer a lot of the interactions that we
02:45:11.380 we think of with the geist or the ghost is oftentimes the hammer um the residual soul
02:45:21.300 complex or the the imprint of that soul left on an area at a level that is not quite material it's
02:45:30.260 in between the material and um and the visual spectrum or the audible spectrum sometimes um
02:45:41.300 as far as getting trapped that's an interesting one and i i really
02:45:51.300 I want to give a conclusive answer, but I don't think that's necessarily capable.
02:45:57.120 When we talk about the souls of the lost, I can think of no other truly poetically sad moment to think of when there's the possibility that the soul is unable to pass on completely.
02:46:14.560 um when we are talking about the soul and and that the um the uh i don't know if this is going
02:46:22.500 to work but i'm going to attempt again no it's not going to work at all wait a little bit you
02:46:29.300 see here when i when i'm oh there it is so the soul the soul is much like a cup and all of the
02:46:38.120 components of the soul as we pass away fall into that cup uh or that containment and
02:46:46.180 the possibility that that that the cell does not pass through i think it's extremely rare but
02:46:57.440 uh the the to say conclusively that it doesn't happen i i i mean we're talking about
02:47:07.020 the processes of death, and again, this is going into next episode, but
02:47:14.340 the debate is, you know, I was actually just reading a story about a miner in West Virginia
02:47:24.060 that sees a miner with an old uniform in the mine with him for a brief moment, and
02:47:34.760 um it saddens me to think that perhaps that that uh the soul is lost if you will um i i would like
02:47:45.560 to believe that that's the hammer still imprinting as i do believe that is the case but for it to be
02:47:51.720 in its entirety lost or disconnected from the from the folk soul and unable to to pass the bridge
02:47:59.320 and go through the veil um i mean perhaps only the gods know the full extent of that question
02:48:07.800 i would i would i would hope not as far as destruction of the soul uh i do not believe
02:48:15.560 that there are uh for instance obviously when we pass the leak is changed it it ceases to be
02:48:25.240 itself but much of the soul like that does change or encapsulate fall into the soul uh and the
02:48:33.320 hamingya is again dispersive it can spread it can contain it it moves about so the mobility of
02:48:40.440 certain parts of the soul and of course the body itself transforming into a state that's no longer
02:48:46.440 capable of holding the soul is all part of you know that the destruction of its purpose
02:48:55.480 is now different so therefore it is kind of destroyed but the soul itself um the the ond and
02:49:03.720 the uh the uh hammer in in a way even though that can still i believe that goes with the soul
02:49:14.120 pieces of it may imprint in the area but it never truly just goes away but most certainly the the
02:49:20.280 the saul and the on are eternal and pass so the premise of the question is that christian
02:49:34.680 lore has taught us that ghosts are trapped souls i'm not sure that's the case i know that
02:49:41.640 in the christian era that's talked about but i don't know if that's just limited to a christian
02:49:48.200 conception of the soul with ghosts from a lot of different traditions there's an idea that
02:49:58.200 there's a soul that that can't pass properly or that is trapped in some way
02:50:04.280 way. I don't feel qualified to say that that can't happen.
02:50:17.120 I think that that happens more when things are conflicted. I think the closer that our
02:50:25.820 components are working in conjunction with one another, the less likely a soul is to linger in
02:50:34.520 a trapped or a disturbed state. One of the things that I think is tragic about ghosts,
02:50:45.680 and I thought this since I was a kid. I've thought this since before I was involved in
02:50:51.020 house a true if a ghost is a person who's who's passed on and some part of that person
02:51:00.220 why would they always be scary and mean and and bad and i think when we deal with spirits in the
02:51:08.220 world one of the fundamentals is how you come at them and i know that there's people in
02:51:18.460 in pagan circles and in our circle that are very big on protection they you know cast protection
02:51:29.020 spells they ward an area for protection they're very worried about non-physical things
02:51:38.860 affecting them harshly and i'm not saying that there's nothing to that
02:51:45.020 but it's always been you know if i wouldn't approach another person in life
02:51:53.420 that i'm necessarily terrified of them why would i do that to their soul or that same person
02:52:02.760 after they've passed and i found a lot of peace in that when you approach
02:52:10.620 the spirit world or ghosts or whatever you interact with as if they're a person that
02:52:18.360 you are dealing with because fundamentally I believe that they are or certainly a portion of
02:52:23.740 that. Why are you afraid? Why are you hostile or angry? Especially when you are dealing with
02:52:35.400 the most component base parts of a person. You see this when you deal with animals.
02:52:44.000 If your immediate response to their presence is terror or anger or defensiveness,
02:52:51.240 that's the best way to get attacked because it's threatening unnecessarily.
02:52:59.220 I have always, since I was a child, and I believe this very much today, approached
02:53:03.920 ghosts and the idea of ghosts. Be friendly, reach out to them, say hi, let them know you're there,
02:53:13.440 let them know you hear them, and see what they have to say. I don't think that a portion of a
02:53:23.260 person's spirit that exists as a ghost is necessarily evil or hostile or ought be terrifying.
02:53:31.660 um i know other people may disagree with me on that and you know just like approaching people
02:53:38.740 in the mall you're gonna you're gonna choose how you do that now not and i don't think there's one
02:53:43.660 right answer but i know when i go up with somebody even if i'm concerned about it my best bet is to
02:53:53.020 be relaxed and to be to engage them with respect and with kindness until I have a good reason to
02:54:02.540 do otherwise and that's what I say and then to the bigger part of that to the I guess not bigger
02:54:10.200 but to the other part of the question can the soul be destroyed or can elements of it be destroyed
02:54:16.620 destroyed in don't exist anymore no but dissolved into their component pieces are recycled into
02:54:30.120 something different I do believe that in extreme cases right that's when we see the venomous steak
02:54:38.880 snakes in Nostrand, the, what is it, the beach of corpses, when our lore talks about
02:54:53.460 that extreme level of the afterlife where really disreputable bad people go,
02:55:02.760 you see the motif of venom and one of the things about venom alchemically in in our tradition of
02:55:14.680 the esoteric tradition of our folk is it's a it dissolves and so i do think that when
02:55:23.500 really really terrible people are judged unwanted by the gods and by their ancestors
02:55:31.400 that soul aside from the regular parts that pass away with death like the like the leak
02:55:40.760 I think that soul the entirety of it gets dissolved and that energy that those pieces
02:55:50.720 go back into the collective so they can be used again for better purpose
02:55:57.800 if that makes sense. And I hope it does. And we'll go into that a little bit more detail in a couple
02:56:05.720 of weeks. Next question. Gentlemen, great stream as usual. Deep topic. Can I get the sources of
02:56:17.320 all this soul related info? Books, authors, please. Thank you. So I've been trying to figure this out
02:56:24.780 and i could have sworn it's in rune lore but it might be in futhark right rune lore by edrid
02:56:35.100 thorson and um i'll hear you go theme now or uh stephen goes into this in uh also true a native
02:56:46.380 european spirituality he is very much you know he was part of that development with edrid back in
02:56:53.660 the day he's very much from that school and he reiterates those different pieces but in in his
02:56:59.740 own voice in his book as well and some of this is uh witness fawn and myself's um extrapolations
02:57:09.740 and expanding upon those works but those two sources are the key sources so that's rune lore
02:57:18.060 by edrid thorson and also true and native european spirituality by stephen mcnowen
02:57:27.340 is there anything written about the soul in books from history from pagan times or after paganism
02:57:35.580 from times that books like the eddas were written during so i want to answer your question but i
02:57:43.180 also want to address the premise there are absolutely books written on this in pagan times
02:57:49.580 by pagans those are the two books that i just mentioned rune lore and also true native european
02:57:55.340 spirituality we are currently living in pagan times and these things are just as authentic
02:58:03.580 from people that live now as they were from people who happen to live in the viking age
02:58:09.100 or before we are just as entitled to practice and to develop also true as our most ancient ancestors
02:58:23.100 so yeah there's that as far as information about our soul from
02:58:31.260 arc arc even times
02:58:39.100 not that I can think of. A lot of this is extrapolated from a lot of different sources,
02:58:47.880 but one that's relevant, and this is a kind of a sidetrack, but I think that
02:58:55.680 Witt and Svahn might know exactly what I'm talking about.
02:59:00.240 Where was it when they sent somebody's hammer to scout Iceland?
02:59:09.660 and there was the different land spirits personified by iceland that it encountered
02:59:18.220 on the icelandic seal yeah all of trigger sons saga the yeah
02:59:26.940 i can always count on swan not to let me down on the lore stuff that's awesome um yeah that one's
02:59:34.060 really kind of interesting and it talks about some of this a little bit there's also is that
02:59:40.700 the same saga they talk about the guy's hammer that went out as like a walrus
02:59:47.580 and i want to say that's in eric's saga it might be when they're talking about in greenland
02:59:56.300 with labor ericsson there's there's some of these things that honestly if you'll if you'll forgive
03:00:03.020 me some of these things kind of become they blend together especially some of the saga work because
03:00:09.500 these aren't like the focus of the sagas they're just little instances in them that are that are
03:00:15.660 spoken about um but yeah that's best i've got on it swan are you aware of any um
03:00:25.180 uh ancient materials that that add to add to this discussion um
03:00:33.020 The best way you can really look at this is it's kind of, again, scattered throughout.
03:00:43.440 So there's mentionings of certain things.
03:00:46.460 And first and foremost, it's worth also noting that most of that which was written down was 150, 200, sometimes 300 years after the conversion of Iceland, which is used as a benchmark.
03:00:59.640 it doesn't necessarily mean there's just a hard cut off and all of a sudden everyone's
03:01:03.880 not of the native faith anymore it's but there's a definitely a stringing out from there but uh
03:01:12.840 the stories were still passed on because they were very important so there's little mentions of um
03:01:19.640 like in in the sagas of the icelanders uh you know when eil skala grimson mentions about the death of
03:01:27.640 his son and he uh makes a remark about the the uh the she's not quite an austen year she's but she
03:01:40.440 is noted for her position in the cosmos of what what she is responsible for which is death and
03:01:45.800 he laments her for taking away his son um again there's mentions of uh barrow mounds and burials
03:01:56.040 and burnings and pyres and and things like that so it's very scattered the best pathway i would say
03:02:04.440 is to look at some books um that are of our century that compile most of these up so that
03:02:15.000 they can be brought to review by you the reader um and there's really two books that come to mind
03:02:22.520 um it's myths and symbols of pagan europe by davidson and then there is the road to hell
03:02:32.260 um let me see and when you when you look it up you get um a couple of odd searches but the big
03:02:41.240 one again by davidson uh the study and the conception of the dead in old norse literature
03:02:49.620 those two i think are really good to get an idea of the teutonic aryan branches um
03:02:59.220 iterations of death as uh we have evolved as a people because remember to death um
03:03:06.980 as far as the way we deal with it as far as the way we handle certain things like our ancestor
03:03:12.980 went through phases where they were able to bury the dead in mounds and then other times during
03:03:17.380 migration periods they would burn the dead so there's evolutions of things that even now we're
03:03:23.220 doing whereas we're moving from burials to cremations to uh you know um now i mean they're
03:03:29.940 getting with the the trees the the tree um uh encapsulation of the of the dead um again those
03:03:39.620 are all part of the i would say an organic evolution of our the necessities of the way we
03:03:46.180 deal with death but when we talk about ascension and descension when we talk about how the gods
03:03:52.660 view us see us mark us based on our deeds and how our ancestors also view us and mark us for entry
03:04:01.620 into the folk soul beyond the veil that's all really poignant in those books about uh these
03:04:09.300 fragments just being kind of placed into the story giving you a glimpse a window into the views
03:04:16.020 of our ancestors in relation to death um and and and the working the inner workings of it
03:04:22.260 i mean that's how we know that say for instance um you know snorri stutlason who wrote and compiled
03:04:31.060 did add in a lot of his views about classical literature from greece and from rome but he also
03:04:38.020 added in some of his inflections about christianity especially in regards to the underworld and
03:04:43.460 especially with the usage of the of the name of hell herself of course that being utilized in the
03:04:50.900 german uh or germanic translations of the bible it's like they use hadith or the latin and the
03:04:58.340 and the uh greek um they took those names and that by the time he was writing that that had a lot of
03:05:04.580 connotations to it um i i think that it's oftentimes blamed too much because again there is mention of
03:05:12.260 venom and venom has a place within our cosmology as in purpose um so a lot of people try to say oh
03:05:20.180 he was just christianizing it and they don't realize that there is heavy moral implications
03:05:25.620 in what we do in our faith um that we have you know a checks and balances if you will
03:05:34.340 based on our deeds and where we go but um that would be the best bet find those two books and
03:05:40.980 look at the compilations of the views of death both in um everything down to um the old practices
03:05:49.540 of sacrifice even of the of prisoners of uh war of animals of what a bloat is or what it was
03:06:00.980 in elder times and how it evolved how they went from um sacred butchering to uh the gifting of
03:06:08.180 weapons and the gifting of bread and the gifting of mead and all of that was were part of the bloat
03:06:14.900 or the giving process to the gods a lot of that would will help you contextualize to
03:06:21.940 the concepts of death in our religion
03:06:27.780 europa the last battle hail swan's clock stop it he's very self-conscious about the noise of
03:06:35.060 his clock he was asking about that before we went on the air not a big deal your clock's awesome
03:06:42.020 don't don't listen to the haters
03:06:46.340 also bodie over in the chat talking about how the hammer was a whale that went out
03:06:51.620 scouting to iceland um i am very fortunate because i am able to surround myself with
03:06:58.180 some of the very best people uh witness fawn is a good friend of mine bode is a is a great friend
03:07:05.380 of mine as well two of my closest friends and you guys got my back on the lore i appreciate that
03:07:11.940 when you mentioned that too about the spirits of the land i wanted to bring up a point just one
03:07:16.500 thing when or when he goes around iceland and he sees uh you know a jotun or a spirit of the
03:07:23.460 mountain and he sees a dragon and he sees an eagle and he sees a yotin that's taken the shape
03:07:30.900 of an oxen um it's worth noting when you brought up about ghosts if you're if we were specifically
03:07:39.300 talking about ghosts there are um in our lore the and again the basis of this is different amongst
03:07:47.380 a lot of people in the faith when we talk about like malicious spirits like like what would be
03:07:52.260 like a poltergeist in german uh or or a troll or a troll witch or wife um those things this
03:08:01.140 kind of some of the spookier stuff um that when we get into that is not a ghost you know that's
03:08:09.380 why i think approaching our the ancestors or if there is someone who's trapped yes stepping forward
03:08:15.620 with with good intentions is is key um that's uh that's important and and differentiating between
03:08:25.300 um most oftentimes i think people and their souls when they are in their hammer form or or if they're
03:08:33.620 a ghost of haunting oftentimes it is about wanting to be heard recognized or guided
03:08:40.820 guided uh in in the direction they need to go
03:08:45.620 All right. What relationship, if any, do the ash and elm trees have to own? Svan.
03:08:55.080 Well, the ash and elm. Ask and embla. And again, the etymology of emblas is argued, but generally it is the elm.
03:09:08.880 um and i i i believe it is such um they are the receptacles of on the first now it's important
03:09:19.360 to note that when we talked i talked about how in order for something to be complete
03:09:24.640 it must be balanced in its polarities in all of our lore is always shown so humanity that when
03:09:34.880 when when the gods come down and shape ask and umla the masculine feminine is present there
03:09:43.120 for a reason to create the perfect balance it is not out of balance and they are the receivers of
03:09:49.680 ond and so they are the first of the folk that receive the gifts of the gods that ultimately
03:09:56.480 connect olvin and all of the gods by weird to us or to to them um and so that part descends and
03:10:07.840 continues on it's it was the act that connected us um forever but there are other acts that have
03:10:17.120 also woven our weird when uh in other stories of our gods um and the way they connect to the
03:10:23.760 shaping of us as a people so uh europa i appreciate your honesty keeping it real
03:10:33.200 clock and blurry 360p camera are full-time members of vns yes that's fine go old school
03:10:42.160 keep it real and gritty i know like a grainy like 70s movies
03:10:48.400 all right next question well i spoke i don't have a lot to add to that other than what i said earlier
03:11:02.880 there's a profound act in taking an existing thing and imbuing it with a divine spark
03:11:15.040 and
03:11:19.360 Some of our people in the past, especially in prison,
03:11:23.420 have waxed grandiose and act as though the gods are within them.
03:11:30.980 They're apotheosing to godhood and whatever else.
03:11:36.140 I don't believe in the big truth of that,
03:11:39.800 but I believe in the little truth of that.
03:11:42.780 Just as I said,
03:11:44.020 hymenia earlier and luck is something that you can spend something that you can give
03:11:51.300 a finite quantity that can circulate
03:11:57.700 odin has hymenia and luck he has a well of divinity that he can spend
03:12:05.540 And he spent a little piece of that in each of us that animates us into beings that share in essence with the gods.
03:12:20.940 First, that is the initiation of the gift cycle that we engage in through our worship.
03:12:27.440 he imbued in us at that moment a sacred gift that initiated that cycle
03:12:38.540 but also it's finite it's not just some random thing he did he chose to break off a piece of
03:12:46.780 divinity from his well of it and give that to us and that means a lot
03:12:55.120 um i was here you go with you stephen our founder has always said that we share an essence with the
03:13:05.980 gods whereas they may be a rushing waterfall of that essence maybe we're the the drip from a
03:13:15.560 leaky faucet of it it's the same essence just magnified exponentially in scale
03:13:24.060 and that's very special and it's beautiful
03:13:28.060 and i don't know if that really touches the question but i do think it's worth saying
03:13:34.060 um then nick asks a cheeky question would my soul be different in seoul as in the capital of korea
03:13:47.580 if you found yourself in seoul no it would not were you a korean man your soul would be
03:13:57.800 extremely different i would imagine um you would have to consult the sacred korean elders on that
03:14:05.360 i am not familiar with their soul complex as it were i've been there quite a few times though
03:14:12.940 it's a beautiful city there you go swan knows what's up and he knows what dog tastes like
03:14:19.880 that was a different country but yes they're okay it's true nonetheless i'm saying we express
03:14:28.540 truths here sometimes transcendent truths tiny little place called east timor
03:14:35.720 you know there's a tiny little place called asawan in anchorage alaska where i think i've
03:14:41.580 consume some dog too they raided the freezers and there was there was a lot of uh domestic pet
03:14:47.900 animals in those freezers and it got shut down but i digress um our next question do we think
03:14:56.460 that each individual builds up it's funny because i'm on a time delay so i watch fawn visibly crack
03:15:03.900 up like seconds later do we think that each individual builds up their own soul it creates
03:15:11.580 an exponential, I'm sorry, do we think that as each individual builds up their own soul,
03:15:19.280 it creates an exponential ripple into the folk soul? That would explain the recent resurgence
03:15:26.900 of focus on traditional living amongst our folk. Yes, I absolutely think that that is true.
03:15:36.340 And I'll ask Svon here for his take in a second, but I want to mention this.
03:15:41.580 there are currents within that folk soul that display themselves in very literally weird ways
03:15:53.360 on a really small scale I'm ridiculous and I look at our uh our membership database
03:16:02.760 way more often than I should during the course of a day to see if we get new members in
03:16:07.800 and it ebbs and it flows we'll go days without a new applicant and then all of a sudden like five
03:16:17.660 will come in and i look as part of my responsibility is running the afa i try to look at
03:16:25.360 what caused that what did we do that worked what didn't how are we reaching people
03:16:31.980 what's you know i look at those things and there's no commonality that i can see
03:16:38.700 they're different people of different ages from different parts of the world
03:16:43.660 completely different genders sometimes just completely unconnected but they come in and waves
03:16:49.900 the folk soul works like that we saw within like a year period in 1968
03:16:58.140 also true reawaken here and in canada and in iceland before the internet before any of these
03:17:11.180 people were talking we see these waves to where our folks will re-emerge is very strong through
03:17:18.460 these folk heroes that we have and different places in the world completely unconnected with
03:17:27.180 one another other than through that folk soul so there's really special currents that run through
03:17:34.300 that what are your thoughts swan i mean it's it's funny when we talk about the spirit of an age
03:17:44.400 versus the folk soul and how they are how could they be different and how could they be the same
03:17:49.580 um some people arguing that it is the same uh or it's the spiritual version and then there is the
03:17:55.260 the the philosophical or intellectual version but yes absolutely believe sterling that that is the
03:18:02.300 case um because again the the gravity the older self has the mass gravity but each of those
03:18:13.180 points can have pinnacle gravity in and of themselves if someone in their in a moment
03:18:18.220 their life masters their their uh their leak and they um expound upon it um you know testing
03:18:25.420 themselves to the ultimate limit building their body up and it inspires others to do the same
03:18:32.540 that has gravity that can pull in a direction um so every aspect of the soul and the deeds that we
03:18:39.340 do can have an effect especially in the living folk soul now um and yeah those ripples um
03:18:49.020 like for instance the traditional living i think that's an intellectual or a a huer
03:18:55.180 um aspect of gravity that's pulling from people's souls because they're starting to really think
03:19:00.300 about how they live how they consume food how they can can build for themselves while simultaneously
03:19:08.940 uh going against some of the problems that they see in society and then others start to
03:19:15.180 intellectually ponder if they can do it and then then that manifests into action so yeah absolutely
03:19:24.380 next question hammer is like the astral body yes
03:19:31.180 i don't know what more to add to that other than yes what do you say swan
03:19:35.740 yes uh when we talk about the projection uh it's it's as far as shape goes though it's referred
03:19:43.840 oftentimes as being able to be malleable based on the the the will or the desire of of of that
03:19:51.520 but sometimes i think it also again happens accidentally um i have again i've mentioned
03:19:57.880 it before i was going to hold until next episode but i i will say there is a there is a case of
03:20:03.620 that with my family having an encounter with someone who saw the room when one of my family
03:20:14.880 members was near death, and he was in Iceland, and he described the room to my mother in
03:20:22.180 great detail, and then said that my sibling would be okay, and would pull through, and
03:20:31.920 she had no idea if this person was just making things up or what have you but he certainly
03:20:37.820 was sure of himself 100 and and that that was told to me when i was very very young
03:20:47.340 so um personal experience from that yes
03:20:51.620 so it's part of the side chat and i don't know if nick's going to throw it up over here because
03:21:04.200 may not be worth it but it's part of an ongoing conversation
03:21:07.960 it's fun how was dog and does dog taste like chicken see i i haven't been scrolling on on the
03:21:18.240 the chat because part of the thing i was trying to fix the camera was distance and focus and all
03:21:24.100 so i'm like yeah i got your six we're good yeah so but now we're catching some of these uh i didn't
03:21:31.700 know i was eating that and the culinary practices of those people are quite barbaric they um
03:21:39.820 they full body on the fire burn off the hair and then clean the carcass and pretty much just eat
03:21:49.020 like that it was uh that sounds awesome i've had hog that way i've never had
03:21:56.380 dog or cat that way that i know do not recommend
03:22:01.100 all right so does it taste like chicken no so here's the thing i don't know what games they're
03:22:07.340 playing at the chinese restaurants i i think that i've probably consumed a lot of cat and dog that
03:22:12.540 i don't know about but it all tasted like the thing it was supposed to taste like i really like
03:22:18.780 chinese food but i say that with big asterisks i don't like chinese food i like america i like
03:22:24.940 candied meat that's american chinese food one time i made the mistake i was in san francisco
03:22:32.700 mandy and i lived when we first moved from florida out west because we only had one half
03:22:38.780 at the time so we're trying to get as close as we could to odin's off we ended up in santa
03:22:43.340 rosa california and we went in to pick someone up from the airport or do something at the airport
03:22:50.060 in san francisco and we were in an authentic chinese restaurant with we were the only english
03:22:57.580 speech speakers everyone else in there was chinese and we ate some authentic chinese food
03:23:03.260 not a big fan but when you get the like super candied meats chinese food that you get at the
03:23:09.340 takey audi down the down the way big fan of that um but no any of that's tasted like it's supposed
03:23:17.340 to be i think that you know i don't know dog and cat whether it ends up being white meat or not
03:23:23.100 I think that's what makes the difference on whether it tastes like chicken.
03:23:27.760 I had sturgeon in Hong Kong, and the Chinese food there was very, very different, even by itself being in Hong Kong.
03:23:36.400 But I did not know that it was dog.
03:23:40.640 I was aware of the cooking process after I had already eaten said piece that was like on a stick.
03:23:47.660 Don't look in the kitchen.
03:23:49.340 If you like it, you just keep on about your merry way.
03:23:53.100 Uh, it's, it's best for man to be middling wise, says exactly, exactly.
03:23:59.520 I've been an adventurous eater all over the world.
03:24:01.440 I mean, I've eaten sea cucumbers off the coast of Korea that are still almost, they're,
03:24:06.200 they're still alive when they cut them open and then they chop them up and you, and you
03:24:10.700 just, you eat them.
03:24:12.300 And so, I mean, I'm, well, it's, it's in its death throes while you're eating.
03:24:19.760 That's malicious.
03:24:21.520 I don't know.
03:24:21.900 There's something to that.
03:24:23.100 um I'm not squeamish about eating stuff but so random side note nothing to do with the
03:24:30.840 soul complex or anything important that we're talking about but ptarmigan so
03:24:37.920 hunting small game and birds and things ptarmigan up in Alaska is state bird it's very much like a
03:24:46.560 grouse or a spruce hen but I really like it what's different is it's red meat like the breast meat
03:24:54.000 and stuff is is red it's much more like eating a rabbit than it is eating a grouse so I recommend
03:25:01.920 ptarmigan they're awesome they're also really stupid so I'm not the amazing shot so where other
03:25:08.820 shooting with a 22 or 410 i hunt small game with 12 gauge and i remember i got four ptarmigan with
03:25:17.780 one shot one time because you go up north past the arctic circle and there'll be a field of them and
03:25:24.820 they're not used to people or whatever else and they're not very smart animals so you can just go
03:25:30.900 to town and the bag limit's pretty hefty and we fried up a bunch of ptarmigan breasts and they
03:25:36.660 were delicious i'll tell you what okay i miss i miss that no you say that you'd think with a 12
03:25:44.660 gauge that you're prying out a lot of pellets and stuff you're not you aim a little bit high
03:25:50.020 you can clip you know four of them in the head it's all good really good no but the red meat
03:25:56.740 they're delicious um so uh next question it's a common phenomenon on the internet
03:26:07.780 that people share the moment they became conscious man i saw this question hours ago when it came
03:26:15.540 through all right so that people point out the moment they became conscious and realized that
03:26:20.980 they were a whole human being and so were others what is your take on that now i don't i think this
03:26:31.460 is similar to the npc phenomenon and like when you have that spark of there's something more
03:26:39.620 than the matrix that modern world all puts us in i hope that's what you're talking about um
03:26:50.980 I may just be booming on that and not really know.
03:26:55.000 But if that's what you guys are saying, yes.
03:27:00.320 And when it, this is something I've talked about on the show a lot.
03:27:04.120 The coolest thing being a Goathe is when Alistair True becomes real to someone.
03:27:17.220 And you have people, it can be years.
03:27:20.980 that they join the AFA, they call themselves Asatru,
03:27:24.240 they want to believe in the gods.
03:27:26.940 They're extending themselves in good faith to the gods.
03:27:31.520 They think they believe in the gods.
03:27:34.460 But there's this moment when all of a sudden their eyes get big,
03:27:40.280 get as big as saucers, and something happens.
03:27:45.800 Oh, wow, we are in the presence of the gods.
03:27:49.780 and it's so special when you see it happen it's not every day
03:27:56.580 but you know maybe once every couple of years you see that in someone's eyes when you perform a
03:28:04.540 And it's beautiful. And it is. It is profound confirmation that you're doing something right. It's not all you. It's them. It's the gods. But you're being that bridge at that moment. You're facilitating our gods and one of our people.
03:28:34.540 coming together and it's a really special thing um i think that's the closest
03:28:43.340 to answering your question and i'm not aware of this internet phenomenon i don't see this
03:28:47.820 everywhere i don't know where you're at you kids today i realize that you know every couple of
03:28:54.060 days i realize how old i am i don't feel like it man i tell you what i feel like i'm 20 years old
03:28:59.580 me i referenced the sega game on a stand-up at an arcade and i played it in a friend's
03:29:08.620 mom's house but i played it in aaron besh's house in fifth grade um
03:29:20.460 but yeah that's the closest thing to your question that i'm aware of
03:29:25.580 but it's i think a really important part about it is once you see that
03:29:37.100 you can't you can't go back once you vit you venture outside of your mundane self
03:29:45.820 and you see the other and you see the spiritual and you connect with the divine
03:29:51.340 you can't unsee it you can try to you can fake it but once you know you can't unknow
03:30:01.360 and jokingly like the stupid thing I said to Svon a few minutes ago but it's best to
03:30:05.980 be middling wise about eating dog realistically though that's the thing about being middling wise
03:30:15.160 once you know something beyond you don't have the luxury anymore of ignoring it
03:30:21.760 and you also don't have the moral um excuse of you didn't know
03:30:28.760 if you go through your life and you're just a lame and you go through and you don't know anything
03:30:36.340 and you don't try hard and whatever at least you can kind of like oh well i didn't know there's
03:30:41.820 anything more, once you transcend that existence and you touch the other, if you go back, that's on
03:30:55.440 you. If you go back, you have the responsibility of knowing and choosing to stay the same and to
03:31:05.560 not level up and if you do that you're responsible for that choice
03:31:13.240 and i don't know if that's what was asked by the question
03:31:17.560 but i think it's really important and to go on with the idea that it's a common internet
03:31:22.360 phenomenon something kids say once you take the red pill and you see beyond the matrix
03:31:29.960 you can't unsee that so it's an important choice if you choose to ignore it and keep doing what
03:31:38.840 you're doing you can keep going but once you know better then you bear a heavy burden for that
03:31:48.380 knowledge um what do you what do you got to say about that spot I'm not familiar with the trend
03:31:54.440 um i do think that uh when someone's huir is opened it's about perception once they become
03:32:03.760 aware of it and understand the perception of it and can they're they can wrap their head around
03:32:11.380 it if you will uh and then the empathy that follows when you um like when you see your
03:32:17.140 children developing into you know uh full uh little humans that you know that you you realize
03:32:27.700 they are um they come into being before your eyes um yeah it is a it is a uh a sweet you know
03:32:37.380 revelation that flows over you but i think yeah that's that's the hewers um control of perception
03:32:45.060 and intellect and i think a lot of people are closed off and i i could say negative things
03:32:49.620 but the biggest biggest thing i would say is a lot of times people are just not
03:32:53.140 perceptive of things because they have to close things out in order to do certain things in their
03:32:58.100 life but when they slow down or take a moment or catch a moment and it opens up that intellect for
03:33:04.820 them to to fully grasp it yeah it's uh it's a tidal wave sometimes so over in the chat
03:33:14.100 ali's throwing at me that uh that i am literally her parents age i could literally be her dad
03:33:22.020 you know what that has struck me a few times with people i'm really fortunate in my life
03:33:30.740 in so many ways one of those i was thinking about that mandy and myself we're both turning 42 this
03:33:38.740 year i've got friends that i consider my friends that i hang out with friends that are in their
03:33:49.220 70s that are my parents age um or my father's age rather um and friends that are in their 20s
03:33:59.380 and it's time is a strange thing that way some of my very best friends are literally in their
03:34:07.860 60s and 70s and some of my very best friends who i feel like i i'm a peer with are also in their
03:34:17.860 20s and that big of a spread i think is a is a blessing you know the joke over inside on the
03:34:27.140 side chat is that it's rubbing salt in it or whatnot you know what i gotta see this you know
03:34:33.140 what it's really not if i had lived a different life maybe it would be i am so
03:34:43.460 i am so blessed and so proud of the situation that i'm in that i'm in right now and
03:34:54.580 and i say that i've got a mountain of regrets about my life don't get me wrong but
03:35:03.140 Where I've come and so much of my adult life that's been involved in the Oss True Folk Assembly, the more I've been involved with this that we're all doing together, the more everything has just come into place.
03:35:21.080 When I talk about my AFA family, I love you guys.
03:35:25.460 And I mean that from the bottom of my heart about this being my family.
03:35:28.680 When I see people that I genuinely like and care about that view me as a father figure or as their parents' generation, it doesn't rub salt into anything.
03:35:44.760 I think it's beautiful.
03:35:46.240 And I'm really proud of that.
03:35:49.780 And, yeah, it's really special.
03:35:53.880 So I don't worry about that.
03:35:55.260 see another comment my beard is actually turning gray so you can see that i'm clean shaven now and
03:36:03.260 i was not a couple of months ago i grow my winter beard from soil from equinox to equinox so when we
03:36:12.220 hit you know whatever it is this year i think 21st of uh september i'm gonna start growing my beard
03:36:19.660 and i'm gonna grow it and you know i keep it trimmed so it doesn't get crazy but i'm gonna
03:36:23.980 grow it and have my beard until uh until you know 20th of march or whatnot every year i look forward
03:36:31.180 to it because i get to see the progression of gray my hair isn't going gray yet but right like
03:36:37.260 right here at the top of my sideburns it starts getting a little bit of gray
03:36:41.500 and every year i look forward to kind of seeing how the gray has progressed in my beard so
03:36:45.820 So hashtag aging stuff.
03:36:52.280 King of Cheese, who left us a little while ago, went to bed because he got tired of listening to us.
03:36:58.760 I remember when he asked this question a couple of hours ago, at least.
03:37:03.760 Matt Svahn, good to see you both tonight.
03:37:06.380 Aside from squealing children, and she's been in bed for almost two hours now.
03:37:10.940 How are you all doing tonight?
03:37:13.140 Tony, if you listen to this later, or if you don't, same answer most weeks.
03:37:19.280 I am doing fantastic.
03:37:21.480 I'm excited about this subject tonight.
03:37:23.660 I think we're covering a really important thing.
03:37:26.920 I think that Svon is able to clarify this so much to a lot of people that are very curious.
03:37:33.380 We've had great questions and great interaction on the side.
03:37:37.440 I'm living the dream, Tony.
03:37:38.900 I am a happy guy. And I know I say it every week. You don't have to believe me if you don't want,
03:37:45.180 but it's the truth. I'm doing fantastic. I hope you're doing well as well. Whenever you listen
03:37:52.380 to this, I hope you do. I always hope you're doing good, Tony. And I really, this is what
03:37:56.740 I really hope, Tony, if you're listening to this, I know you're close enough. I want to see you up
03:38:01.780 at LC Fest. You can make it to LC Fest. People can drive you. It can happen. Tony, I challenge
03:38:10.660 you. Be at LC Fest. I want to meet you. I want to give you a hug, and I want to actually meet
03:38:17.340 you in person. Let's make that happen. How are you doing tonight, Svon? I'm doing great. I had
03:38:24.960 great day um and i'm i'm happy i always get kind of invigorated right around and uh you know uh
03:38:32.240 mary moon is coming up tomorrow it'll be full on and we're entering into the the may month and
03:38:39.680 getting ready to do the maypole and all of that stuff is just it's that time of year where it's
03:38:46.480 exciting everything's popping off uh planting in the gardens and doing work and meeting people
03:38:55.360 that are traveling and getting ready for summertime he's not here i woke up to a yard full of snow
03:39:02.880 i tell you what winter winter has northern nevada in its grips this year keeps hanging on we were
03:39:10.400 in the 80s last week and then boom last two days i woke up to my yard covered in snow melts quick
03:39:17.680 but it's it's a thing hey um on the note of that tony asks that question every single week we've
03:39:27.040 got some of you guys that are here literally every week with us thank you so much i love this i didn't
03:39:36.960 know how it all was going to turn out i just knew that i really like talking about house to true and
03:39:41.920 i like talking to my fa family and the rest of you guys um i really appreciate all of you that
03:39:49.360 come here with your questions every week you keep the chat room alive and going um
03:39:57.680 really appreciate you guys i want you to know that your continued support of this it means a lot
03:40:04.000 thank you um so here's a good question what are some simple things to build your hominia credit
03:40:14.880 score you know i appreciate the humor and the question but it's a good one um
03:40:24.720 everything see that's the thing you focus we have a tendency to focus on regret
03:40:31.760 or focus on things we wish to undo unfortunately you can't that's in there and it exists
03:40:41.680 your only hope is to outweigh it with worthy action with honor and with deed
03:40:51.120 that up that hymenia more than you've heard it with you know doing stupid things
03:40:55.760 anything honestly just live and write upset but I'd say acts of courage up it more than other
03:41:10.220 things courage when there's risk courage when there's consequence upset a lot
03:41:18.500 um doing things that there's doing things that there's actual risk or actual consequence to
03:41:28.660 and i don't mean being reckless that's not what i'm saying at all but conquering your fear
03:41:36.340 to do things that you know are right those are the things that i think boost your hymenia
03:41:42.800 the most, perhaps, in a personal way. Now, there's a lot of things you can do to advance
03:41:50.140 spiritually, and I think that bloat and ritual and the gift cycle is part of that. But to boost
03:41:55.780 your own Hymenia credit score, which is what you asked, I think that doing the right thing
03:42:06.080 when there's consequence or there's risk.
03:42:10.580 This sounds self-serving, but I mean it.
03:42:14.660 Donations, donating to any of the causes
03:42:18.300 that we're raising money for.
03:42:19.900 There's a literal cost.
03:42:21.400 You're literally putting your money where your mouth is.
03:42:25.220 Taking a stand and publicly being a proud member of VAFA
03:42:30.340 puts you in a spot where you could receive
03:42:34.300 sanction or bad things, but also to where you are visibly representing us and making it easier for
03:42:45.460 those behind you to stand up for us. I think that increases your hominia. Standing up and
03:42:53.620 speaking truth and being who you are in a social context to where that's not accepted or that's
03:43:01.940 not the norm. Again, you face ridicule possibly, but you're being righteous in doing that.
03:43:11.940 Anything that's honestly, and I did this earlier, my little thing with my ring, I'm not,
03:43:17.420 you know, knuckles or whatever. It's the ring rhido, which is the ring of our priesthood.
03:43:23.080 It's about the right actions at the right time. So every time you know the right thing to do,
03:43:29.340 and you're scared to do it because there's a consequence or you might you might make somebody
03:43:34.380 mad or you might you know you might whatever doing those things that you know are right
03:43:41.900 regardless of the concerns that you have in the aftermath those are the things that boost that
03:43:49.580 hymenia score in my in my belief what do you say swan well by the nature of asking the question
03:43:59.340 the uh this is a huddle moment this is a bring it in gentleman kind of moment but for yourself i i
03:44:05.740 think if you're asking this question about how you can build up your humming the first thing to do is
03:44:10.700 assess the situation look at the mantles in which you you're you're bearing uh if you're a brother
03:44:17.900 if you're a father if you're um an employer or an employee um if you're dedicated to something
03:44:27.180 assess the mantles that you wear and look at them and first off find the ones that you can
03:44:35.980 commit to the ones that you or that you're dedicated and oath bound to and start by
03:44:42.860 building and acting nobly and worthy of those mantles um take take the time to look at those
03:44:50.780 mantles and find the ones that you can activate on immediately there's other ones that you might
03:44:55.740 have that are kind of gray uh and if they're not really there it's even is the right action would
03:45:03.580 be to um clarify either re-solidify those mantles or get rid of them and focus on the ones you do
03:45:11.260 have because we get scattered a lot and i think the the economy of movement is what i'm talking
03:45:16.620 about if you're trying to up your luck and your hamingya and your soul it takes a moment to assess
03:45:23.900 what best actions would go towards that. And I think that's about the mantles and the titles
03:45:31.420 and the responsibilities that you place on yourself and that you have on yourself and that
03:45:36.040 you address them and meet them with your chin up, your chest is out and you hold truth and you speak
03:45:43.960 the truth and you make your decisions and you be fair and honest and clear and clean and follow
03:45:49.420 the virtues and you will start to build your luck but do it in that assessment
03:45:57.340 so this flows right into our next question what do you think about the proposition that
03:46:04.460 hymenia as good luck is a misinterpretation and that it applies more to the totality of the being
03:46:13.740 and how does that uh affect the luck of the being what do you think on that's fun
03:46:23.100 i again i think it's more the the the interpretation of good luck is as it's more about
03:46:33.580 again the gravity or the the momentum of your actions and it can affect other things so that
03:46:43.360 it is the momentum of actions of your ancestors it's the momentum of your community or the people
03:46:49.860 to the to the right and to the left of you so that the the action of your being and and your
03:46:58.180 achieving total self in your action is the component that makes it about
03:47:05.820 luck if you will um yeah i think that that term is thrown around too loosely
03:47:14.520 um as far as it being a misinterpretation i mean again i think it's lost in that
03:47:23.700 like our modern concepts of luck as it is perhaps more about the ability of the total self to affect
03:47:31.260 the world around us um for good or for ill because it doesn't necessarily pertain simply to luck or
03:47:39.480 the positive it can affect the negative it can affect things around us so it's i i would call
03:47:44.600 it almost like cumulative deed through correct action and that garners or bears the fruit of
03:47:52.820 good or bad based on what you do with that um the
03:48:02.340 humming in in and of itself as a something that's passed down from your ancestry i know some people
03:48:08.500 might have a hang up with it when you talk about like i don't have good relationships with my
03:48:14.180 family or perhaps somebody in your family from the past or somebody more directly that you're
03:48:20.580 you're related to has done terrible things or things that are bad or just things that are not
03:48:27.100 good within the family. Remember, your haminya is firstly based on your actions, your ability to
03:48:34.040 pull out of the cumulative action of others that have been kind of foisted on you or, you know,
03:48:41.640 or correcting those actions with drastic action, cutting through oftentimes settling issues,
03:48:50.580 A lot of times things that are unsaid or lingering problems that are going on can oftentimes completely stop draining from your life by simply stepping across and immediately saying, you know, I know this is a problem.
03:49:08.400 i know this has been a problem for whoever's involved and i want this to stop i need this
03:49:14.320 to stop and uh what do you know i've taken these steps to make it and i don't want to continue on
03:49:19.460 with this pathway anymore and it could be something as a open and shut kind of case
03:49:25.200 when it comes to things like that um you know we also talk about hamingya in the sense of like
03:49:32.840 even further down in the past uh the unseen ancestral luck um and i think one of the big
03:49:39.900 things that boosts your hamina is i i'm i'm very big on um the idea that obligation obligation to
03:49:51.200 your mantles and existence as folk is it places you within obligation to give honor and worth to
03:50:00.840 gods because through them and your obligation to understanding them opens you further and
03:50:09.560 it's in a funny way it's the only way i can describe it is is like the automobile perception
03:50:14.760 when you when you buy an automobile that you really like and then all of a sudden you see
03:50:19.160 it everywhere when you take that step towards building your humming and doing corrective action
03:50:25.400 and building in that obligation to the gods to honor them as folk descended from them
03:50:33.240 you begin to see just by taking the action of like like buying that car and then suddenly all
03:50:40.520 of these avenues start opening up or your perception of of the existence of the gods
03:50:45.640 and how they've interplayed in your life before and are doing so now uh it's that's that's massive
03:50:53.560 and i think that that comes from cumulative deed and that's part of that gravity it goes all the
03:51:01.720 way up and it it's it may you you may feel minuscule in your in your deeds but the tiniest of
03:51:09.640 ripples start that way and build up and build up and then they refract back into your life
03:51:15.480 and you just have to have the perception of knowing it so i think coming is you know as
03:51:21.960 good luck is some rose colored glasses i've never heard it interpreted as good luck i think it's
03:51:29.480 luck generally and you can have terrible hymenia if you are just a dirt bag that can't follow
03:51:37.080 through on any of your oaths that does wrong by your family does wrong by your gods
03:51:44.360 you can have a very negative hymenia you can have a hymenia debt um
03:51:51.960 And that's important, too. Good luck doesn't just mean that you're good at the dice or whatever.
03:52:01.400 It is a. So. It's been important to me and the name of this very show that we're participating in right now is Victory Never Sleeps.
03:52:19.400 So victory is determined very often by Hymenia. Are you blessed with victory in the things that you do and the things that you set out to do? Hymenia is a part of the machine of victory or not.
03:52:36.280 But if you have a very bad hymenia, then you are predestined to more often than not fail and do poorly.
03:52:52.860 Your success is a deviation from that hymenia and not your standard course.
03:52:59.580 i've talked about this a number of times tonight but the the rune for a priesthood right though
03:53:05.720 is the right action at the right time by doing that and by building that up you are ramping up
03:53:12.540 and increasing your hymenia your hymenia more often than not propels you towards victory or defeat
03:53:21.380 Um, I think that Hymenia as luck, not good luck, but as luck generally is a, I think it is accurate. I think in common parlance, it doesn't equate to the gravity that it truly has.
03:53:42.380 has. I talked on a previous show about this. Our fates, our norns, our, you know, that which has
03:53:58.660 happened uh earth verdandi that that which is happening and scald that which should happen
03:54:10.420 so you get projected in a direction for something that should happen and hymenya is a part of
03:54:18.900 projecting you in whether you're likely to be victorious or that you're likely to fail at
03:54:24.820 certain things. Other things factor in certainly, but this is your initial trajectory. And if you
03:54:33.540 built a mighty Hymenia, that trajectory is geared much more towards success than if you had a poor
03:54:42.180 I mean, if that makes sense. Is the AFA associated with Voton Network? Not really, but kinda. So
03:54:58.260 certainly, Stephen McNallan is a member of the AFA. He is the founder of the AFA. He is a dear
03:55:09.220 friend and mentor of mine, and all of ours. So certainly, you know, there is a relationship,
03:55:23.980 I suppose, between Votan Network and the AstroFolk Assembly.
03:55:30.900 I'm trying to think of the best way to put it, because obviously there is connectivity,
03:55:35.180 And if Steve ever needs help or whatever, I've got Steve's back 110%.
03:55:42.380 But I'm responsible for AFA stuff, and he's responsible for Votan Network stuff.
03:55:49.520 So if Steve says something over there that's odd, please don't hold that against me and vice versa.
03:55:57.360 But. Now, Stephen McNallan, the founder of modern Ausatru, the founder of the Astro Folk Assembly.
03:56:09.640 We would do absolutely anything for that man.
03:56:17.660 Yeah, there's no way for there not to be an association.
03:56:21.220 But like I said, if Steve says something odd over there, please don't put that on me.
03:56:26.140 and vice versa. But if Steve ever needs help with anything, we're there for him a thousand percent.
03:56:37.960 Yeah. So I'm not really sure what his plan. Votan Network is very much a personal pursuit
03:56:45.040 of Steve's. And so I'm not sure what all he has planned or wants to do with that.
03:56:51.200 But in every endeavor in his life, we wish him the absolute best, and we want to be supportive of him.
03:57:03.060 So Nick asks, we talked about, or on Berserker and Ulthednar a bit, in regards to the Wodsof and Oðr.
03:57:12.720 Is this the same source of some of the monumental feats of our folk outside of battle?
03:57:20.460 in extraordinary circumstances.
03:57:24.800 The main on that comes to mind
03:57:27.560 would be a mother lifting a car off the child.
03:57:30.900 Ha!
03:57:31.620 Shows how old this is
03:57:32.840 because we mentioned that so many times earlier.
03:57:35.560 But I bet you this question was asked before we did.
03:57:39.660 Yes, all of those things, yes.
03:57:43.680 I think we covered it,
03:57:45.380 but I want to again because it's so very important.
03:57:48.200 And in our lore, you see it in a battlefield context so often because that was the penultimate expression of that in our ancestors' time.
03:58:01.020 And I think it's different today.
03:58:04.920 Certainly, we have members of our folk who are able to achieve that on the battlefield.
03:58:11.580 But so many of us don't have that opportunity or aren't in that situation.
03:58:18.200 And you do see that in the mother who's able to lift a car off of her child or somebody who's a, you know, regular folks that see a burning building and hear a baby crying, break in, save the child, get burns, but don't feel them until they're out and the kid's safe.
03:58:39.460 And we see that a lot. That is the very essence of heroism, is when you transcend
03:58:47.960 the bounds that we feel are normal to achieve greatness. And you see those in a variety of
03:58:59.000 contexts. But I think that those that you mentioned, that's absolutely expression of
03:59:06.340 those moments where you achieve the woe self. And like I said, the vast, vast, vast majority of us,
03:59:16.000 maybe we touch that once in a lifetime. You know, the really great ones, maybe they touch it a few
03:59:24.660 times, but being able to achieve that and live in that place, that's the goal. And that is the
03:59:33.560 essence of ascension what do you say on that's fine i i mean i think you hit it well it's yeah
03:59:41.160 it's it's about the ability um that fate places us in and it's kind of a the actions you take in
03:59:51.320 your life that build your character you can't really plan for the moment when you ascend into
03:59:57.320 that perfect moment you you have to have the culmination of things already preset
04:00:03.880 by cultivating them in your soul then when those moments do if they do find you i think you're more
04:00:10.920 pre-apt to again align and ascend into the moment and become something more but yeah it's about
04:00:19.160 cultivating the little pieces for the possibilities of where your fate might lead you
04:00:27.320 So Ali says, I've had the experience quite a few times when I look an elder in the face and my mind superimposes a much younger version of their face over what I'm actually seeing with eyes.
04:00:46.380 Is that their odor or am I nuts?
04:00:50.940 You may or may not be nuts.
04:00:52.540 I think you need to consult a professional to to get that diagnosis.
04:00:58.540 But no, that's absolutely over. And it's absolutely what I'm talking about.
04:01:04.540 When you're in the presence of greatness, the greatness transcends the physical.
04:01:15.540 And I don't know how to explain this to someone who hasn't experienced it.
04:01:22.540 um the way we most often see it today is with veterans but you see it in other people who've
04:01:31.540 just done amazing things in their life
04:01:35.140 and that person that they are their woed self will shine through their current physical condition
04:01:46.640 them and uh that's how i like to think our gods see us um or you know gifted spiritual people
04:01:59.600 see us because they don't see our current you know problems they see that ultimate example
04:02:11.300 the self we can be and it shines when you have achieved it it's one of those things once you've
04:02:19.700 hit that once it doesn't go away it stays with you and there's a shine to that that people see
04:02:34.340 that regular folks see shoot that animals and children see that people with second
04:02:40.980 sight see the gods see when you've touched that
04:02:48.820 other that heroism when you've been that woed self even for a moment
04:02:54.740 that stays on you for the rest of your life
04:03:01.540 and we see that and we recognize that i think it's beautiful that you're able to see that
04:03:10.040 in these elderly people that you've dealt with because it's
04:03:16.980 it's beautiful and i think there's there's levels to it you don't have to be the
04:03:23.540 the biggest hero of ever you don't have to be a medal of honor winner to have a piece of that
04:03:30.580 because people that know for it to appear to a stranger it needs to be amplified like that
04:03:39.060 but to it to appear to someone who knows someone intimately it doesn't um and i saw this and i one
04:03:48.260 of the things that i'm really sad about and i think is always going to be kind of a sad thing
04:03:56.180 mandy my wife didn't get to meet my mom when my mom was her full self
04:04:05.780 she got to meet my mom when she was on the tail end of her dementia when she's an old
04:04:13.300 shriveled husk of woman that was confused and angry and
04:04:20.740 not in her right mind. And so I can only imagine that my mom saw this, or that Mandy saw my mom
04:04:29.820 as this, you know, decrepit, angry, confused creature down the hall from her for a little
04:04:40.680 amount of time but it was different because when i saw my mom i didn't see that you know i didn't see
04:04:50.920 and it was very conscious like i was aware of the difference in my mind when i saw her
04:04:57.800 because she's this you know shriveled up old very confused and sometimes non-verbal
04:05:06.040 thing but in there is my mom in there is the woman that raised me that i've known for you know 40
04:05:19.200 years that has loved me and taken care of me and given everything she can for me
04:05:26.080 and it's strange because i know nobody else sees that
04:05:30.820 but when i was in the room with my mom i wasn't in there with this old husk of whatever was left
04:05:39.040 i was in there with my mom that i've known my whole life that knows me and that's the thing
04:05:46.360 even when she couldn't verbalize my name or explain to somebody who i was in relation to her
04:05:53.340 that relationship was still there
04:05:56.900 because namaste because the divine in me could see the divine in her
04:06:08.740 because the person i am at my core could see my mom
04:06:15.340 and that that's special and that's all the more amplified when somebody
04:06:26.640 is ascended somebody's a hero somebody's touched that greatness more it's often somebody you're
04:06:35.440 familiar with before you see that but if you know somebody really well and they go through
04:06:41.680 hardship, or they get sick, they grow old, they grow infirmed.
04:06:49.480 The woad self projects beyond that. And we see that sometimes with retired athletes or people
04:06:56.660 who have just done big things in their life. Even when they are well past their prime,
04:07:05.220 we still see that shine from them and that's what's so important about victories
04:07:13.280 participation trophies are bs you can take those away from somebody very easily because they're
04:07:23.580 not based on something real when you have actual accomplishment those things exist those things
04:07:32.140 are in memory those things exist in the collective many of all of us you can't take those away
04:07:41.980 they're good they count and they count into the future and this is kind of this is a broad
04:07:48.780 deviation from the question that was asked but i've seen that i used to work with children
04:07:54.460 and they would do all these build the kids up through participation trophies everybody's a
04:08:03.300 winner nonsense but in in order for me to work with the kids they were considered
04:08:10.640 severely emotionally disturbed so they were often in really bad situations at home
04:08:17.800 and somebody who wants to be abusive, you can take that nonsense out and slap those kids down
04:08:24.800 to nothing immediately. What you can't do is, hey, I won the spelling bee, you know,
04:08:33.940 January 22nd, 19 or 2008, I won the spelling bee. Anything else your parents wants to say,
04:08:43.240 or your guardian wants to say or people who want to diminish you want to say yeah but on that day
04:08:50.120 i could spell better than any other kid in my class it's a fact you can't take that away
04:08:57.640 you know you can be a haggard old man that can't walk and can't talk right and shaky
04:09:04.600 but if you can say hey in 1975 i was heavyweight champion of the world
04:09:09.320 world no one can take that from you that's true that exists accomplishment exists and this this
04:09:18.980 is all mundane versions of that woad self that we're describing but when you touch greatness
04:09:27.980 it transcends and that shine of the greatness is still on you throughout the march of time
04:09:36.860 if that makes sense what do you what do you think of that's fine
04:09:41.200 i'm uh in relation to the question yeah that i you are seeing that touch of of that but yes
04:09:51.700 you're you're correct as well when you're the connection to greatness the tangibleness of
04:09:57.180 achievement um it oftentimes can define whole peoples and i think nowadays because material
04:10:06.640 materialism and modernism, they try to equate achievements to just dust in the wind or what
04:10:16.620 have you. That's such a distancing thing. It's important for us to remember those deeds and
04:10:25.680 those things. Now, we can't remember them for people that we don't know or we're not connected
04:10:29.080 to oftentimes, but noticing it for people that are close to us, that if you're close to that
04:10:35.040 person or let's say for instance you just see somebody you don't even know but you can kind
04:10:40.040 of see when they were young perhaps you are reflexively seeing a moment of that testament
04:10:45.660 to their getting to what they could be or what they were that the culmination of of that is
04:10:53.000 yeah it's like a lingering um it's in the air around them that's yeah that's the other for sure
04:11:05.240 you know another thought i have on that is my grandma so i only knew my grandma as this old
04:11:14.440 woman something about that generation or maybe my grandparents when they hit 50 they just
04:11:21.400 put the curlers in and wait to be old that was a thing um but my dad
04:11:28.280 my dad always talks about my grandma he always remarks like man she was such a beautiful woman
04:11:35.480 what what a beauty what a beauty she was
04:11:38.360 he knew her for the same time I knew her and she was this old lady I never would have described
04:11:48.140 her that way because I was a kid and I saw this old woman but even into her 70s my dad
04:11:56.960 saw that woman in her 30s that he first met that was striking and how beautiful she was
04:12:04.720 and so when my dad's in his 70s i mean my grandma if she was alive now i'd be
04:12:12.560 shoot almost 100 years old he still sees wow she was such a beautiful woman because she carried
04:12:20.160 herself with that grace throughout her life and i think that's part of it so in the next question
04:12:29.440 words are strong hoff rather than church or correct equivalent well so that's the thing
04:12:38.800 hoff absolutely for our places of worship those are hoffs for the international organization that
04:12:46.720 is the house true folk assembly church is the only word that fits that
04:12:52.960 hoff doesn't fit that because it is so connected to the physical like a physical building or a
04:12:58.720 physical location whereas church the church implies a much bigger structure that transcends
04:13:10.240 physicality of buildings we don't have an equivalent
04:13:16.720 so we use that church structure but church isn't a christian word it's one of our words it's not
04:13:23.120 it's not a hebrew word it is either a greek word or a germanic word if it is a greek word
04:13:31.440 it means the lord's house or a lord's house fray frayer literally translates into lord
04:13:39.840 referring to our gods as lords is certainly within our tradition the lord's house being church
04:13:48.080 in greek makes sense but also in german kirka the circle we've always worshiped in a circular
04:13:57.620 formation the greater circle of all of our religious community that connectivity of that
04:14:03.860 circle is what we are um there's just not another word besides church that certainly in the united
04:14:14.340 states conveys what we are as an organization and so that's the only reason that we use it
04:14:21.220 and i hope that makes sense to you do you we have any afa members in australia or new zealand
04:14:29.220 first yes we do i'm going to consult the map here because i have it pulled up
04:14:36.900 right now we've got three australians and two new zealanders that is very low for us though
04:14:47.620 historically we've always had members in both australia and new zealand
04:14:51.860 the covid lockdowns really hurt our membership internationally because a lot of countries
04:15:00.020 it was much more draconian than it was here in the united states
04:15:04.520 but yeah we've always had a presence in australia and new zealand and i'm working really hard to
04:15:11.480 make that more resurgent there's an australian gentleman i'm talking to right now to try to
04:15:18.000 find ways to revitalize our community in Australia. So we're working on that. The
04:15:25.920 trouble with most of our international AFA community is getting people to do things in
04:15:33.440 real life. And I've said this before on the program, but the biggest distance is the distance
04:15:41.480 between your couch and the front door. Once you get up and you leave the house to go do
04:15:48.540 Alcitru, everything else is small by comparison. Breaking that surface tension, that inertia
04:15:58.300 of you being stuck static in thinking and not doing, breaking that and getting you out
04:16:06.500 of your comfort zone to go meet another Alcetruar and to together do Alcetru in the real world.
04:16:13.940 That's the most difficult challenge. And once we get people to do that in these places,
04:16:21.080 then all of a sudden this becomes real and the snowball starts rolling down the hill.
04:16:28.100 But that's a challenge internationally.
04:16:30.240 um does a civilization or state have a soul complex that is distinct from the folk soul
04:16:40.560 swan what do you say about that
04:16:45.360 yeah uh again that that does cause a lot of confusion when we talk about
04:16:50.560 the folk solo the living folks so the folks all now and physical world the material um
04:16:56.400 But yes, again, the collection of things are about the connectivity between them. Like I was speaking before about Frith. So as those things dissolve too, the Haminha of things can turn. Drastic action can bring it back. There is ups and downs that nations go through.
04:17:18.560 But yes, they do kind of carry their own collective soul, if you will.
04:17:29.280 um i mean you can see this in when we talk about tribes or we're talking about people the way they
04:17:38.320 interact with each other the way they viewed other groups whether it was um you know the the uh
04:17:44.320 barangians uh looking at the byzantines or if we look at the germanics looking at rome or or vice
04:17:52.080 versa whatever it was is that the soul of the people was heavily hinged on the deeds of the
04:17:58.640 people and so whether you talk about individual deeds and the accumulation of soul might the
04:18:05.520 collective deeds of everyone enacting with their connectivity under one banner under one movement
04:18:12.160 um it it does share that um when you are like individuals everybody is with their soul complex
04:18:24.940 they're dealing with the actions and the intentions and the cumulative homing of
04:18:31.900 others around them and so those interactions create like the the tides that go up and down
04:18:38.320 Um, and so I certainly don't think that there is a sense of anything ever coming to a complete destruction, but very rarely do we ever get to bask in the eternal rise of self of a nation if we could see it.
04:19:00.920 And that's, that's often, again, it's, it's brief if, if it's attained. And, you know, sometimes it reaches moments that are deeply poetic, but then fall, fall short.
04:19:17.300 um you know if you think about like the the the moment of any nation tribe or group that reaches
04:19:26.480 this this culminated moment and then now you look at it and see the youth in their face of those
04:19:33.200 moments um the beauty of a nation is that it can it can happen again um they you know the I I like
04:19:41.240 of like when the united states touched down on the moon that was a um that was an older moment
04:19:50.760 i think for the west i think for the anglosphere i think for a lot of that
04:19:58.440 that moment of of cumulative greatness affected a lot of people it's just sad that because we
04:20:06.440 share it with so many others you need to maintain again once it goes down and dissipates you have to
04:20:12.520 cultivate the individual parts of the soul and if you don't that gets lost people forget
04:20:18.920 generations can forget so again maintaining the memory is important building towards it
04:20:29.640 when you tell people you know to reach for and to do things of greatness they will do it but
04:20:36.200 if you cultivate them into forgetting about it and only caring about mundane or material things
04:20:42.920 they they they turn away they they they dissolve down that's why rejection of those those thoughts
04:20:49.560 um and those those inclinations are important that's the maintenance of the individual pieces
04:20:54.360 can we attain the other again certainly you know what what what could that be i mean uh i know i
04:21:01.880 used the moon so i'm like immediately thinking like oh if we could gain mars or something of
04:21:08.600 that nature or um again just finding breakthroughs in technology or knowledge or science um the west
04:21:17.400 has come so far and numerous times have reached these pinnacles when the first time we took flight
04:21:23.880 that's another older moment so i think they're waves but yes nations can can gain them you know
04:21:32.160 every time i see the the first to flight license plates from north carolina um it it harkens me
04:21:38.880 back to remember like my my mini thinks wow there was a moment where we we went from not being able
04:21:47.080 to tread like eagles to treading like eagles and and we were the first to do it of substantial
04:21:56.920 sense of like it is now tangible it's going to happen we're only going forward and quite
04:22:03.000 literally upward from here so on the word church obsidian skull over in the chat is looking it up
04:22:14.760 and talking about how it's it's a christian word or spread by christians or it references
04:22:22.920 christianity all the time and it does in the etymology when you look at it
04:22:28.280 but if you look at the word they talk about how it is if you trace it back a proto-indo-european word
04:22:36.440 for it to be a proto-indo-european word that puts it
04:22:43.820 thousands of years before the birth of christ um so that's a thing it's funny when you look
04:22:54.460 at the etymology because it's been so associated with christianity over the time period but the
04:22:59.700 word itself of a Lord's house or a place of assemblage predates Christ by quite a bit of time.
04:23:10.240 So I think that's important to take into account as well. But again, we use it in the United States
04:23:15.540 as a legal definition of what we are as an organization. It goes into our 501c3 status
04:23:23.620 with the irs and with legitimacy in the united states but the idea of a governing body of a
04:23:30.800 religious organization is in certainly in united states parlance the term church is the word to
04:23:39.340 use but it is based on on a proto euro proto indo-european word so that's that that predates
04:23:50.420 christ by quite some time it's kind of like using the word gods or goddesses as opposed to ours and
04:23:59.620 our senior especially in relation to explaining things to people um i think it would they'd be
04:24:05.780 like i'm sorry what or gesundheit you know if they so a lot of that translation too is important
04:24:14.420 uh yeah god if you look it up references the christian god in its definition and in its
04:24:21.700 etymology but it's not it goes back to our in the germanic sense it's literally the the
04:24:32.420 the word goths as a people are the people of the gods um and it's far far before christianity
04:24:42.020 So it's interesting how just Googling etymology is misleading sometimes.
04:24:49.260 Our next question is specifically for you, Svon.
04:24:53.460 Take into account that dead people go mostly to Helheimer, specifically Helgefell.
04:25:03.240 Which part of the soul do you think is the one that goes to the mountain in the realm of the dead?
04:25:12.020 so this is an interesting question and it would be better next but i will address it the hell
04:25:21.500 mountain when the mountain opens up and he sees his ancestors this is i have always taken this
04:25:30.800 this that is the folk soul that is the reconnection back to your ancestors passing through hell guard
04:25:38.400 or hellheim everything associated with hell is about death the the process of it the the
04:25:48.400 organization of it and the way that the soul moves whether you travel over the bridge and pass through
04:25:55.200 the death the hall of calamity and the end of all things separating yourselves from time
04:26:02.480 and then you enter into the halls of your ancestors what that looks like is i think
04:26:13.360 it's been expounded on differently by different people but there is a difference between
04:26:18.560 the passing through of death and the acceptance into the hall as to say
04:26:24.640 not being accepted by your ancestors if you if you are
04:26:28.720 for instance if you bring nothing of value and your ancestors decree that you are not allowed to
04:26:37.760 cross that bridge there stands the warden of hellguard her name is moth good and she tells
04:26:44.560 you you can't cross the bridge you must descend down into and across the river girl and the river
04:26:53.200 slave or slither and there you are destined to naustrand so you do not get to see that mountain
04:27:00.480 you do not get to see helia fell you do not get to see your ancestors and so ultimately the
04:27:05.680 culmination is the residing of the dead in snorri's interpretation of the just kind of meandering
04:27:14.880 shades i think is him trying to conceptualize how our ancestors saw only death in battle and
04:27:23.600 everything else was kind of this shadow of of life but clearly we see in this inter this story when
04:27:33.200 he sees helia felly he sees his ancestors and he's going to go into the mountain a lot of people have
04:27:38.160 placed it specifically as a location and i think what what it is is it's a threshold that in the
04:27:43.760 process of his death he is crossing that bridge of death that icy bridge that is wide and holds many
04:27:53.360 and he crosses through the veil which is helgard and death itself and enters into the place where
04:27:59.040 he is welcomed which is his ancestors and they're waiting for him because they have
04:28:03.280 deemed him worthy to sit amongst them again so looking back over in the chat we still have a
04:28:12.160 etymology discussion about the root word for church and the first time it is spoken as church
04:28:22.800 sure that was in a christian context but it's important to me that it's in a greek language
04:28:33.760 the etymology does mean a lot obsidian skull points out that
04:28:37.760 it means something different in Proto-Indo-European. Well, it does slightly. It means the place of
04:28:46.540 assembly, and it implies the assembly at the house of a Lord or, you know, a great person.
04:28:57.560 But it's important to me that it's church and not...
04:29:01.420 shoot i don't speak hebrew so i don't even know what to tell you would be the uh
04:29:10.140 the jewish word for assembly of people but they could have chose that word it's
04:29:19.420 neat to me that they chose a uh a european an arian word to describe an assemblage of people
04:29:27.420 before their lord as church now again there's no word in ancient times for the overall governing
04:29:36.300 body of our folk faith because it functioned very differently at that time it was an assumed
04:29:43.660 thing and it didn't need to be differentiated from something that it wasn't um
04:29:49.260 um yeah they they could have used a Hebrew word they used a Greek word that comes from
04:30:01.260 Proto-Indo-European roots that I think comes down in the Germanic as I mentioned earlier
04:30:07.200 as circle or in Greece as assemblage at a Lord's house. But, you know, yes, the first time the word
04:30:19.200 church, C-H-U-R-C-H, was used was in a Christian context. Absolutely. But it was used by our people
04:30:27.140 and not in a, you know, the church in Jerusalem was not referred to as church. It was still
04:30:35.140 synagogue at that time in my understanding yeah synagogue is a greek word uh it was used by greek
04:30:41.140 translators of the old testament as a loan translation for the of the late hebrew uh
04:30:49.140 kenneth kenneth that meant assembly or assembly of people so synagogue was the greek word that they
04:30:56.740 used in that relation but it was um yeah so that's a greek word as well yeah that's that's telling in
04:31:05.940 and of itself i think yeah it comes from the the word synagogue which means to gather or bring up
04:31:12.740 to bring together so i'm not sure what the the authentic uh hebrew or aramaic word for
04:31:23.700 their place of worship would be, honestly. Gentlemen, what's the toll for suicide?
04:31:34.200 Not heroic sacrifice. What's happening to the soul, in your opinion? How will kids slash family
04:31:42.640 and connected communities, friends, afflicted by that act? Thank you. What are your thoughts on
04:31:51.900 this one this is an interesting topic again i i think it's imperative that we understand that the
04:32:00.460 gods are deeming us and watching us now while we live we want to be witnessed we want to achieve
04:32:09.020 that self that that is noticed um they also see us through the collective as a group
04:32:16.380 um it is our ancestors that greatly affect the the acceptance of of our souls within
04:32:25.820 um their their grouping back into the folk soul i think it has a a higher um cumulative power
04:32:33.420 than a lot of uh people that on the internet try to you know work out or they try to scholarly
04:32:41.500 uh create this kind of um work in which like the gods will come down and judge you um which i think
04:32:48.460 is very you know uh uh it's the arian branches have shown that that's not really often the case
04:32:57.340 where they they kind of descend into the underworld to measure the single individual soul that they're
04:33:02.780 the gods are concerned about the living deeds and our cumulative actions can they mark us can they
04:33:08.300 deem us unworthy or i mean if we're truly detestable uh you know place upon us the mantle
04:33:14.460 that that is so bad that the ancestors when we die are just like oh no i'm not we're not
04:33:21.740 we bar your entrance we do not accept you and then you are told to go to the rivers to go to the
04:33:30.060 beach the ancestors and their acceptance of that of those things though in regards to the personal
04:33:37.420 issues of of suicide i think we know that there are people who are deeply troubled
04:33:42.860 there are people that are mentally unwell that have you know committed suicide uh there are
04:33:48.860 people that have done it under duress or under the influence of drugs uh things that they have either
04:33:56.780 consumed knowing or unknowingly um those things i think the ancestors are really
04:34:03.420 meriting based off of your deeds and that is extremely
04:34:11.100 specific when we talk about certain things like that again um you know non-heroic suicide
04:34:18.060 obviously in australia most people think of suicide when it's done in the sense that you
04:34:22.140 know you're doomed and you're you continue on anyways is heroic but when we're talking about
04:34:30.140 either accidental that i think the ancestors take into account as not necessarily being
04:34:37.500 a travesty to act but other times you know it's it's again what befalls the soul what befalls
04:34:46.060 the mind the what befalls um you know that this person as they go how much does it detract from
04:34:53.180 their deeds um i think that the ancestors kind of determine that more than say the gods but i would
04:35:01.980 also point out that there's nothing i think i think the gods do not look well upon people who
04:35:09.740 who give up it's it's not that they look spurnfully or hatefully but that it is of little value to
04:35:19.660 anyone um to be a dead like that it's of little value so being thought of like that by my gods
04:35:32.060 has an effect on me a visceral effect i would not want but again that's me it's
04:35:41.100 It's very tempting for Svon and I to claim to know more than we do or claim a position that's inappropriate.
04:35:57.500 We are not in the position of determining what our gods and ancestors deem is good enough or not.
04:36:17.960 We have clues to know what they would find honorable and dishonorable, absolutely.
04:36:24.020 Absolutely. But we're not in a spot where we can say, hey, if you commit suicide, you're going to, you know, be on the strand and be dissolved and you're worthless and whatever. There's so much that goes into it. And that's one of the uncomfortable things about Asatru. So little of it is 100% black and 100% white. There's context is everything.
04:36:48.580 I think more often than not, suicide is a weakness and it's a person who has been beaten down so much or allowed themselves to be beaten down, whatever the case may be, to where they're so desperate and so humiliated by life that they cash it in.
04:37:18.580 Now, there's heroic sacrifice suicide, and as the person who asked the question, that's a completely different subject, and we've acknowledged that.
04:37:29.120 But people who take their own life because they're mentally so beaten down, that's not the same as villainy.
04:37:43.180 And it's argued, you know, when you take your own life and you leave your wife and your children to fend for themselves, that's very selfish.
04:37:55.180 And it may be.
04:37:58.820 It's not quite the same as villainy in some other instances.
04:38:04.200 I think that the gods and the ancestors know so much more than we do about the context and the intricacy of what was going on in a person's life that caused them to make the decision that they made.
04:38:24.120 It would be cool if I could just say, like, hey, if you commit suicide, you're going to burn in hell, and so don't.
04:38:30.960 But I can't because it's not honest and it's not truthful.
04:38:37.960 What I can say is, and our Lord tells us, dead men can't do a lot of stuff.
04:38:48.920 You have so much opportunity in your life, no matter where you find yourself, to make things better for yourself, for your hominia, for your family.
04:39:00.960 for your folk. Every day of the rest of your life is an opportunity to do great things.
04:39:10.500 Every day that you shave off of that opportunity is a tragedy. One of the biggest tragedies
04:39:19.500 is wasted potential. And suicide is the ultimate wasted potential.
04:39:30.360 But yeah, that's really unfortunate. I wouldn't want to go to my gods and ancestors in that
04:39:36.800 condition or after having given up with the challenges that were before me. But I'm not
04:39:43.880 in that position. I am incredibly sympathetic to someone who's so beaten down that feels they need
04:39:52.780 to take their own life. I'm even more so empathetic to the family that's left without
04:40:00.380 that piece of their kin fence, that father, that husband.
04:40:05.380 i wish i could just go and say that you know suicide's a sin we don't do that now it's true
04:40:14.320 and i can't um but i do say once you commit suicide you you close the book on any of the
04:40:24.980 things you could do good in this life to build your hymenia and to make things better
04:40:30.440 You sacrifice all those days that you could spend in the service of your family, in the service of your folk, in the service of your gods, and you cash those all in.
04:40:43.100 it is much better to seek out your go-thart and to work through a problem that's temporary
04:40:55.380 rather than to choose a very, very permanent solution to a temporary problem.
04:41:04.480 Nick posted a link, but if anybody is at a point in their life where they're considering that,
04:41:10.660 there's no timeline on it you can always off yourself tomorrow but i would ask that anybody's
04:41:21.160 at that point where they want to do that please reach out and give the rest of us you know your
04:41:27.380 friends your family or one of our go thara a chance to talk to you and maybe prevent something
04:41:36.500 very tragic you're not really out anything if you're already at that point
04:41:44.500 but you give us a shot not to wonder what could have been if only we'd gotten a chance to talk to
04:41:50.420 you and i'd appreciate you doing us that favor if you could so if you're at that point please reach
04:41:58.660 out to gothar at runestone.org please reach out to me matt flavel at runestone.org individually i
04:42:06.580 would love to talk to you but any of our priests or priestesses would love to talk to you and get
04:42:12.740 an opportunity to maybe help you choose something that's more productive for you and your family
04:42:19.140 gentlemen uh no i already asked that um
04:42:33.220 okay how do you like living in alaska oh that was from the alaska comment yeah way back when so i
04:42:41.220 I, you know, there's ups and downs.
04:42:46.320 I really liked, I got opportunities that I think people today don't often get.
04:42:54.440 And I think that our children's generation gets even less.
04:42:58.200 I was able, you know, I lived in Anchorage.
04:43:01.040 I lived in the city, but I was able to experience the wilderness in a way that people don't other places.
04:43:08.320 i tried to go on hikes and do things down here in different parts of the lower 48 and there's people
04:43:16.600 everywhere you go on a hike you're going to run into to people if you're on a hike in alaska
04:43:23.120 that's not necessarily the case yeah i'm loose i got to be literally in the middle of nowhere
04:43:30.880 often different circumstances. You know, I talked about hunting ptarmigan north of the Arctic
04:43:39.800 Circle. And again, I was doing that on the backs of my cousin and my uncle and people who are far
04:43:46.340 better outdoorsmen than I was. But I got to experience that. I've got a moose antler rack
04:43:54.720 that I have hanging in my house when I went moose hunting.
04:43:59.620 And, you know, I'm not the greatest hunter in the world.
04:44:03.500 I've told this story before, but I believe that Ullr gifted me that moose.
04:44:08.240 But I got to experience that.
04:44:09.940 Most people don't.
04:44:12.600 I got to fish, you know, fly fish for best salmon in the world on the Kenai River
04:44:17.920 or dip net for subsistence salmon in Copper River
04:44:22.840 and get, you know, 30, 30 apiece when we're out there in hip waders in the middle of the river.
04:44:30.360 I got to experience a lot of really cool things.
04:44:34.920 I got to sit out in the middle of, you know, Frozen Lake and look up and watch the Northern Lights dance.
04:44:43.080 And you can see for eternity in the middle of nowhere up at Harding Lake around Fairbanks, Alaska.
04:44:50.260 I got really cool opportunities, but Alaska is so far away from everything else.
04:44:57.600 You're so isolated and you don't get to be a part of so much of the rest that's going on with the world.
04:45:05.640 Certainly in the AFA, I'm glad I don't live there anymore because now I get to attend so many more things.
04:45:12.240 I can, you know, from Anchorage, if I wanted to drive eight hours, I could maybe get out of Alaska.
04:45:19.420 I could be just, you know, just the Canadian side of that border, maybe eight hours from where I am now in Reno.
04:45:29.500 I could be, you know, I could be on the coast in San Francisco.
04:45:33.520 I could be shoot eight hours. I could be down in Los Angeles on the beach eight hours.
04:45:38.780 I could be up in in in Portland or I could be all the way over in, you know, in Utah or maybe even Colorado.
04:45:46.560 almost you know i could be so many different places um so it's much less isolated but
04:45:55.260 the hunting the fishing getting out in the wilderness the experiencing you know i can
04:46:02.120 say that i was running my cousin my cousin's trap line with him when it was negative 60
04:46:06.800 a lot of people can't say that i got some really really cool experiences i'm very thankful for
04:46:14.500 I wouldn't move back there. I'm glad that I don't currently live there, but it was really special and I appreciate the experience.
04:46:28.880 Mr. Flavel, what sources do you recommend for justifying the wear of a beard in a military context?
04:46:39.100 I don't. And I know that's probably not the answer that you wanted to give for me.
04:46:44.500 We've had this. We've had this question or this request a lot over the years.
04:46:54.460 There's absolutely no edict of Alcetru that you have to have a beard.
04:47:03.500 And I won't extend the religious authority of Alcetru to make it that you do have to have a beard.
04:47:14.500 I would rather extend that as a church for things we actually believe in that are essential.
04:47:25.420 You're having a beard or not having a beard is absolutely a personal preference.
04:47:30.520 You'll see me in the winter. I grow my beard right now, clean shaven.
04:47:35.260 But having a beard isn't a necessity or a tenant of Alcetru.
04:47:40.280 It's a personal grooming choice.
04:47:42.120 And when you enter into an organization that has a grooming standard like the military, you should follow that grooming standard.
04:47:53.760 It doesn't affect your ability to practice house a true in any way, and I'm not going to extend it for your personal fashion choices.
04:48:04.600 And I don't aim that just at you. This has been asked by a lot of people over time.
04:48:09.100 I would argue even that the military should do that for every religion. And if you have
04:48:17.840 a religious need to have a beard or super long hair, then you're not in the military.
04:48:25.620 It's just, you're not going to join. Yeah. The standard of, we don't need additional things in
04:48:32.660 house a true to make you stand out or to make you different or to make you a pain in the butt of
04:48:39.380 everybody else who's trying to do things a certain way um you can certainly be clean shaven
04:48:46.820 and practice house true absolutely believe that i don't even get me started on the whole
04:48:53.060 barbering of the of the teutonic arian since the bronze age we'll be here all night
04:49:00.340 that's a thing our ancestors have gone through so many different styles of of grooming practice
04:49:08.340 over the years and uh that's not essential to your faith practice uh technology advancement
04:49:17.140 the idea the reason why the west the shaved face was a flex because your society had the ability
04:49:23.800 to create razors you weren't like some backwoods country that couldn't you know have razors and
04:49:31.400 have you know clean shaven faces or what have you don't got to be like the ooga booga folks
04:49:37.220 with the sharpened rocks or whatever else we've got we got razor blades right and that was um you
04:49:42.880 know west series we got mock three well and po that's post you know of course uh around the
04:49:48.820 victorian age before that beards were all the fashion and every mustaches and beards were huge
04:49:54.320 during the civil war and in europe and all we go through these ups and downs and ups and downs and
04:50:00.820 it it you know you see these other countries like norway you can have a beard and they talk about
04:50:06.120 the you know the sealant of the gas mask you don't really need you know it doesn't block because of
04:50:12.540 way they're built but i think as a principle or at least um uh yeah as a principle of the
04:50:21.660 of the organization of the military um i find it interesting that i don't think they should
04:50:28.860 compromise at all i think the military should make the rules and everyone else should should
04:50:33.100 follow it because it's the military absolutely i see over there in the side uh ally proudly does
04:50:41.740 not wear a beard i think that's a good choice that's good with that um
04:50:52.460 last question of the night unless a new one pops up if a parent earns bad hymenia
04:50:59.660 by betraying their child does the child get the hymenia of the parents
04:51:06.620 kin treason as well as suffering the betrayal
04:51:13.580 yes i don't want that to be the answer but unfortunately that was the biggest
04:51:25.020 the biggest horror for our ancestors there was two there was strife amongst kin
04:51:35.900 because when you act against kin, you can't avenge it,
04:51:42.300 because any vengeance that you take will further damage your kin.
04:51:49.000 So you're stuck just absorbing the hit, and that's awful.
04:51:55.600 Yeah, if you have such crappy parents that they betray you and treat you badly,
04:52:00.960 you get their mistreatment but you also suffer the hymenia that you inherit from them is crap as well
04:52:09.720 and that's awful um the other the other big horror to our ancestors was outlawry or being separated
04:52:23.000 from the bonds of community. Facing the world on your own with no support of community
04:52:31.240 and literally being rootless was also one of those things that was
04:52:38.460 horrendous to our ancestors. So yeah, if you are the parent or if you are the child of parents
04:52:49.300 that are absolute dirtbags.
04:52:53.760 You do, you get hit twice, and that's terrible.
04:52:58.660 But you are afforded an opportunity.
04:53:03.080 By starting that much in the hole,
04:53:07.800 you succeeding in spite of that is an act of heroism.
04:53:13.340 You being able to succeed,
04:53:15.720 Even when the hand that you are dealt is so poor, that builds amazing hymenia for your children and for you personally.
04:53:29.100 Your ability to overcome such a deficit speaks to your character and the character you pass on.
04:53:38.300 Maybe your kids name your grandkids after you.
04:53:42.680 Maybe your grandkids name your great grandkids after you.
04:53:46.700 And they can be empowered by your ability to overcome those odds.
04:53:54.560 But, yeah, I think I'd do you a disservice if I answered that any other way.
04:54:00.740 It's fine.
04:54:01.120 What are your thoughts?
04:54:04.020 It's kind of like what we had talked about in one of our conversations.
04:54:09.140 the many but one of them uh where we were talking about how you know as as folk we should desire to
04:54:16.700 put our children in the best situation because we want them to have the best opportunities
04:54:22.580 we want their humming nice and high and giving them that checklist of everything that we can do
04:54:29.660 as a parent to do that that is not the case for everyone i absolutely know that i think we all
04:54:35.340 know that and we we i i would say even the the boxes unchecked by my own parents have still
04:54:45.520 led me down the road i i am at today um actually more for good based off of the negative that i've
04:54:53.580 received that that homina that i was kind of given um from my parents led me down a road that
04:55:00.620 me that has made me a better parent towards my children has made me closer towards um
04:55:08.060 you know uh i i'm i'm just rapid rabidly defensive about making sure that you know
04:55:16.940 the connections in my family are close and genuine and good because they were not
04:55:23.220 you know from my family so the biggest thing is is that as a parent you should try to get those
04:55:30.360 and if you are the child um it's hard to quantify if let's say your parents did something really bad
04:55:38.680 or one of them did something bad and they're no longer in the picture and the other one even
04:55:43.000 separates or moves and takes you with them far away even though you as a child can't quantify
04:55:49.800 what that movement has done in your life it has changed things just and you can't quite quantify
04:55:56.440 it so i would say don't get caught up on the on the notion that you're cursed that's not that's
04:56:04.360 kind of ridiculous the idea is is that we have boxes checked and some of them aren't and even
04:56:11.960 though the ones that aren't checked that doesn't relegate you to a life of doom it's just that
04:56:19.720 you have to admit that you have deficits that you're going to have to cross you've got gaps
04:56:24.440 you've got to jump and they're going to make you better if you do it if you jump those gaps and
04:56:29.720 then you hold on if you're aware of those things because if you're unaware that's that's worse
04:56:34.440 you're not you might repeat it or not understand where everything is but if you're aware of it
04:56:40.200 then you have the ability to jump the gaps learn from it and make sure your children
04:56:44.280 aren't placed in that same situation that's important i a lot of the negative from my family
04:56:51.080 i have taken great strides to make sure it's does not happen to my children so we have uh three more
04:56:59.480 questions in the line now that have materialized you said it these people don't want us to sleep
04:57:05.880 that's okay victory never sleeps victory never sleeps that's why i'm here question question
04:57:13.320 for spawn are you gonna get that curled mustache i do that for my kids you i yeah i i can i can
04:57:25.960 curl these um i'm a barber i say no no i can't i can't bring myself to go out into public like that
04:57:34.120 because i feel like it's very cartoonish um and so uh my kids love it though i i do have mustache
04:57:42.120 wax i i'm a barber i have it at my shop i make it available for people um and i do have some clients
04:57:49.400 who do wax their mustaches but i i do it i do it for fun and and you know my my kids oh he's got a
04:57:58.360 the french mustache or he looks like like he's gonna tie so so the official grooming product
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04:58:39.240 your hair perfectly they're water soluble you can adjust your hair if needed if you sweat profusely
04:58:47.800 there is a sport version just for you um there's also a special like shiny version honestly i don't
04:58:55.320 think they do anything different they just smell different and are different colors that's okay
04:59:00.440 they're affordable gorilla snot go out and get yours today no please don't no don't don't listen
04:59:11.080 to the man trying to keep you down with their expensive hair products no gorilla snot mucho gusto
04:59:21.640 yeah isn't half of the bottle written in spanish it is it is but uh no we we give credit where
04:59:31.320 credit's due on this program that stuff turns turns your it to be honest too it's like it must
04:59:37.480 be like a like a hispanic thing because even like suavecito it smells good man that stuff is like
04:59:46.120 it's it's a helmet it's hard as a rock i will headbutt you with my gorilla snot hair
04:59:55.320 then you'll know what's up you'll see the superiority so nick rice threw 15 bucks at us
05:00:02.200 our wonderful producer we appreciate you nick he is advocating for barbering in the bronze age episode
05:00:10.280 oh barbering in the tectonic culture we could bronze age is just a tiny section we got to cover
05:00:19.720 it all barbering in old mexico some sometimes like when they the when i remember back in the
05:00:28.400 90s people were talking about how in order to announce the true you know your longer hair and
05:00:33.000 i mean this actually kind of formulated i think from uh the early trough where they were talking
05:00:37.600 about like long hair was a a form of expression of the devotion of asa true and yes at a time
05:00:45.360 there was some cultural significance to long hair uh but more so in women than men for utilitarian
05:00:52.640 purposes women with long hair that was a status symbol and the way they wore it whether it was
05:00:59.520 tied up or covered was showing whether they were a maiden or married you know there but for men
05:01:06.960 folk at the time the idea of like oh you got to grow your hair out long no grow it out if you
05:01:11.200 want but that's not house of truth standards so what i'm looking at over in the chat people know
05:01:17.920 what's up with the gorilla snot that's that's where the secure hold is if i put that in my
05:01:23.920 mustache stab people like a deer no i absolutely do that with my beard and my mustache it keeps
05:01:30.560 all the little curly q things from yes that's the way to go that's the way to do it
05:01:36.960 Um, okay. So it may sound like I'm joking, not joking. Gorilla snot. I really am a big fan.
05:01:46.500 Um, all right. So we have an official second for a grooming in the bronze age episode.
05:01:55.900 Can we crowd fund for a barber demonstration? Oh man. Get me some bronze razors.
05:02:03.000 no you can't i went to the uh they've got all these little um
05:02:10.440 like beard hair mustache hair clipper things when we went to the um
05:02:21.400 i'll say 2018 when afa leadership went over for a uh event in sweden we went to
05:02:29.800 the museum in stockholm and they had these you know all kind of little little hair clipper
05:02:36.760 thing it's like little proto scissors things you would use to clip shells there they had
05:02:44.840 all of this equipment to scoop out like earwax they were so into the grooming grooming is very
05:02:51.400 important to our ancestors um but yeah that was really kind of neat i had actually made mention
05:02:58.120 of that i think uh but earlier before when you had to hop off for a brief moment and then come back
05:03:03.880 um about a ring giving and hamingya and i also mentioned about how the the fanes in return gave
05:03:11.400 their combs to the king as a symbol of their uh hamingya in return but how the comb was such a
05:03:19.560 important part of it was so expensive and it took massive care it was not that was not giving over
05:03:27.320 something trivial that was huge as a side note ali says that she used to use gorilla snot
05:03:34.840 during high school to create a foot high mohawk
05:03:41.640 so ridiculous as that is it is a testament to the holdability that is inherent in the gorilla snot
05:03:52.040 oh we got a question about the film yeah we get we got a lot of questions one question that we
05:04:00.360 have that's ridiculous matt have you already seen the sasquatch people so i was talking somebody
05:04:07.720 talked about this the last episode one of the previous ones and i thought it was silly i did
05:04:13.800 not know the sasquatch people was an actual program i just googled it apparently it's a thing on amazon
05:04:20.360 I will see if I have access to it to see what you guys are talking about.
05:04:25.000 But I have not already seen the Sasquatch people.
05:04:33.060 Gentlemen, favorite caliber and rifle slash pistol combo, please.
05:04:41.100 Old folks keep telling me about the sole evaporating ability of the .45 ACP.
05:04:49.300 so it's a soul related question after all thank you for your stream it's fine what are your
05:04:56.760 thoughts 45 acp is too small you got to go 45 cult all the way no uh
05:05:04.340 i just i actually that is i'm not joking i um i don't own anything that shoots a 45 acp i do have
05:05:13.340 two that shoot 45 colt um but i didn't get them because of their soul rendering boomer might it
05:05:21.500 was they were they're definitely novelty guns um um i think my favorite is the
05:05:31.820 rifle is definitely any of the fal or set meets at 308 20 round mags those are my favorites um you
05:05:40.540 can there that's a that's a awesome battle rifle um i know the m16 inside and out because of the
05:05:47.260 marine corps but uh i'm not a big fan of direct impingement because of personal experience um
05:05:54.300 but pistol wise i think one of the best companies that's super underrated is tank folio it's spelled
05:06:02.140 tang foglio but tank folio uh pistols are super underrated and they are a phenomenal company um
05:06:12.300 they're uh they have a budget line that's really well priced um they do function it's a little bit
05:06:19.900 boomerish in the sense that it actually has a safety on the side um not a trigger safety but um
05:06:26.860 phenomenal weapons they're very light they're again budget-minded you could spend the same
05:06:31.420 amount and get like a crappy high point or you could get a tank folio if you're looking for a
05:06:37.900 budget gun they have expensive ones as well but they make a budget line and um their weapons are
05:06:44.060 are just phenomenal right out of the box shoot great love them um and i just really they don't
05:06:50.860 get a lot of love you can get them on uh european american arms actually eaa that's a that's a great
05:06:58.300 um uh distributor of uh hard to kind of find uh european guns like tank folio
05:07:09.580 but yeah 308 on the rifle biggins i am i am not that guy i'm not the super gun guy
05:07:18.140 um best rifle i've got is a husk varna
05:07:28.300 a husk varna 30-06 that i've used for hunting that's the best i've got rifle wise
05:07:36.640 um from the 70s with my grandpa's rifle and then handgun wise i got a glock 17
05:07:45.280 i don't i'm not that guy i'm not an expert i also the first uh pistol i ever owned i
05:07:52.460 I got from a guy I used to bounce with, and it's like a, shoot, it's a Blackhawk .357.
05:08:02.520 So I'm not a super-duper gun guy, but I'm aware of my Second Amendment rights,
05:08:10.760 and I try to practice when I can.
05:08:14.580 I'm glad Svon had a good answer for you.
05:08:18.920 He has experience in these things.
05:08:21.420 hey glocks are great i'm not one of those guys that hates on glocks and love i love the 45s i
05:08:27.320 love glocks if it if it goes pew and it's in my hands i'm i'm happy it's better to have one than
05:08:34.020 not one that's the thing all right so all right we've got we've generated more questions
05:08:44.820 trying to make us go that extra hour they're doing it on purpose
05:08:51.500 that's okay i love doing this i'm not joking so thought i mean i'm joking as well as loving
05:09:00.740 doing this so uh thoughts on hinduism and buddhism from squiggles i don't read squiggles
05:09:12.400 so i'm not sure how to pronounce your name i'm just i assume it is some kind of a
05:09:17.840 sanskrit text or something i could be wrong um
05:09:26.320 so buddhism is to my understanding a
05:09:33.360 almost atheistic agnostic kind of referee uh reformation of hinduism
05:09:46.720 um my issues with buddhism are are several i do think it springs from a very ancient aryan root
05:09:58.240 but it has a focus on escapism and try and the world is bad the world is suffering
05:10:10.720 maybe if you sit under a tree long enough you can escape the icky world
05:10:19.760 and i'm fundamentally very opposed to that
05:10:22.320 one of the thing about the Buddha is he was an Aryan prince he was nobility if the world is
05:10:33.360 suffering and there's so many terrible things going on by his birth he was in a position to
05:10:41.600 address those things to try to help the people that he felt were suffering to try to make right
05:10:50.240 happen in the world that he was rejecting. And instead, he had a rather self-indulgent,
05:10:58.080 let's sit under the tree and develop my diamond body so that I can't use my diamond body to make
05:11:05.600 anything better, but so I get some kind of enlightenment. I don't like that.
05:11:11.940 I would much rather that Prince Siddhartha would have spent his time being an Aryan prince
05:11:25.460 and making the world better with the resources he had than sitting under a tree trying to escape it
05:11:32.280 all. That seems like a very wasted potential to me. One of the big beliefs of Alistratru and of
05:11:38.640 astro focus simply is the world is good and we should use our powers in this world to make it
05:11:44.480 the very best that we can and i think that that was a lot of that squandered in buddhism uh hinduism
05:11:54.800 is is different i i respect that it also you know as i said it certainly comes from that aryan root
05:12:03.200 um i think it has been culturally intermixed beyond recognition with the javidian influences
05:12:12.560 of that country and i think it's very difficult to recognize in its very original roots
05:12:21.280 but i can respect some forms and branches of hinduism in a lot of their ways i appreciate
05:12:28.160 that they held on to their gods through all of this time and resisted the conversion to either
05:12:34.720 Christianity or Islam that was pressing upon them, and I respect that a lot. I certainly
05:12:43.160 appreciate the branches of Hinduism that are devotional, that believe very much in the literal
05:12:52.580 existence of their gods as personalities and as beings and that worship them in that way i think
05:12:59.700 that's beautiful and amazing so i i hinduism there's so many varieties that i don't think
05:13:07.220 you can speak on it in one monolithic way but the very devotional hinduism i believe in a great deal
05:13:16.500 This goes, okay, so this is a point that I meant to mention way back at the beginning of this broadcast when we talked about the leak.
05:13:26.820 So there are Hindu mystics that believe in starving themselves or, you know, doing damaging things to their bodies as an expression of their spirit and their soul.
05:13:41.700 And I don't believe in that. I don't believe that we are made better by weakening or damaging our bodies. I think our bodies being in prime condition is the best way that we can actualize ourselves in this world.
05:13:57.120 And so I don't think that those fake here, I'm not sure if that's the right term for the folks that do the body mortification and things, but I don't, I don't support that practice.
05:14:13.960 What are your thoughts on Hinduism and Buddhism?
05:14:15.940 fun uh not too far back i i had a very nominal um understanding of buddhism as you know there was
05:14:28.820 tibetan buddhism there was um mahayana there was uh theravada and there was like zen buddhism and
05:14:36.900 that's pretty much like i understood the the branches of where it evolved to and in relation
05:14:42.980 to um uh and how they it kind of got absorbed into a lot of local folk faiths as a supplementary
05:14:52.260 pathway or as it usurped entirely and took over as the pathway of of the religion of the of the
05:14:59.940 people so i have some problems with that but that's on them as far as how they did that some
05:15:06.500 some folks supplemented others let it you know completely change it brought a kind of culture
05:15:13.380 and a language with it that wasn't necessarily native to the areas of certain places there's
05:15:18.660 another thing too when we go about the concepts of suffering and i understand that um it to my
05:15:26.660 my understanding it's ascension that's sought in nirvana um through self-attainment but
05:15:35.380 i question just about the uh closing off of oneself i do get the wisdom behind
05:15:44.500 uh being in the third position not being too tight tightly wound or too loose you know finding
05:15:51.060 the tune um but overall i i don't agree with some of the fundamentals about the suffering and i did
05:15:59.220 recently find a really fascinating thing uh i did not know but there was a whole thing on uh
05:16:06.660 hercules and buddha like traveling around and uh that hercules as as an emblem especially
05:16:16.900 considering the fact that hercules is the striker from the hellenic culture um but traveling around
05:16:26.180 with with the buddha um with siddhartha was an interesting thing i i did not know about
05:16:33.380 it was really expounded on by some some um more uh like hard-lined uh buddhists on twitter i thought
05:16:41.220 it was an extremely interesting thing where they were um and some of these guys are you know they
05:16:49.460 they opened my mind to some some interesting stuff so i'm not gonna um you know shoot that down uh
05:16:57.860 hinduism obviously we know the origins i know that uh it's a it's a tough subject if you are um
05:17:05.940 from india again the the uh aryans coming in and um as it's often called the invasion theory
05:17:15.140 um is not met well especially with internet indians um this if you want to kick out kick
05:17:23.780 a hornet's nest bring up the invasion theory yeah just i i i'm aware of that um however you
05:17:34.440 have to understand from the perspective of that i am of a people of a branch of the arians you know
05:17:42.440 they we are my ancestors moved from their origin home the home dale that they are from
05:17:50.680 and they spread and we you know so the origins of hinduism with uh arian faith is in in my
05:17:59.240 and evidence that i have seen is is um undeniable uh clearly connections when we talk about um
05:18:09.960 the rigveda um or the uh bhagavida and the the issues of the tripartite the moment you see a
05:18:19.880 tripartite or a trimurti a trimurti or uh tridevi even uh these are clearly arian traits everywhere
05:18:27.480 the arians have ever gone there's always been a tripartite um but it became its own thing over
05:18:34.840 time so i find more comfort in the um the uh religiosity of my people and so i don't really
05:18:45.240 pretend to know or be in too much i understand that the language especially um uh indian like
05:18:55.000 sanskrit and uh the hindu like the hindi language is derivative of of um uh proto-indo-european
05:19:03.960 as well i totally understand that but at a certain point i just i appreciate it but it
05:19:10.120 is a culture that is not really mine and so i i respect it um i have been to uh a few temples in
05:19:18.440 my youth to see to understand it's helped me religiously understand the concepts of of godstead
05:19:25.960 places uh where we invite the gods to uh place their presence in um it was a concept i didn't
05:19:34.120 fully understand as a westerner uh that was kind of coming from an ultra christian
05:19:39.800 kind of society and you know idolatry is bad and um i became aware of much of that and so i
05:19:46.520 appreciate that um and uh again some of the um inner schools of thought of uh uh everything down
05:19:59.160 to even the the mysticism of uh yoga like real yoga the the dangerous stuff that shouldn't be
05:20:05.800 done just haphazardly i mean i'm aware of that as a magical and mystical form and i'm appreciative
05:20:12.360 of that as a person who studies magical practices but it's just ultimately not of my people so i
05:20:22.920 have a respect healthy respect and even growing more for buddhism in that in that respect there
05:20:29.400 but uh again at the end of the day i'm i am teutonic i want to watch the buddy cop uh drama
05:20:38.600 that is heracles teamed up with the buddha i think that would be fascinating yeah there's stone
05:20:48.280 reliefs of sculptures of it and i don't know i mean in relation to possibly the the the deeds
05:20:57.880 that he did it traveled eastward and i don't know that was just very interesting again i was reading
05:21:04.840 it more for curiosity and and just enjoyment of the of stories because i love stories um
05:21:12.040 even other people's stories um but at the end of the day i am teutonic and i'll stay in my my hall
05:21:20.040 so the next question is is it possible to intentionally interact with the field yet
05:21:25.560 perhaps that's too animist you know i think that it is i know a lot of people who do their
05:21:31.400 altar work make offerings to their philgia or include their philgia in their prayers
05:21:38.200 and offerings i know that i do that and have done that um yeah i think ritual is one of those ways
05:21:48.200 to build that connection and to better bring the two closer so i absolutely think that it's it's
05:21:55.720 possible to intentionally interact with your philgia what are your thoughts swan yeah i i think
05:22:01.480 that there are people who can actually see other people's fill kids almost as uh in a sense of a
05:22:08.200 of a psychic site in which they pick up on the symbology of the person's ur soul or proto soul
05:22:16.040 um and you do with that what you will um in the sense that it's not necessary it's not like a
05:22:21.240 zodiac or something there's no uh particular like immediate science to it symbols work with with the
05:22:28.520 fact that they're interpreted differently by different people um so when you see the philkia
05:22:35.640 of another person it's uh the symbology or significance may be completely on the person
05:22:43.000 who sees it um other times too is through through um dreams i i have i have had some personal
05:22:51.400 experiences with with um things i've also had a very very very personal religious experience with
05:23:00.200 what i can only be described as a kin a philkia of the family and uh that was more visceral than
05:23:07.320 any of the other experiences i've ever had um but yes i do believe you you can but remember it's
05:23:13.800 about the symbology of the proto self don't get into the idea that it's an animistic uh sense of
05:23:22.200 totemic worship in this uh sense that everything has that that spirit that that that symbol is
05:23:29.320 reflection of you on purpose and its symbology has a lot of meaning um take with it what you
05:23:37.240 will and again at the same time so many people are like i'm a wolf i'm a raven i'm a wolf raven
05:23:44.520 i don't know it just it gets if nobody ever sees their ur self as something you when you see people
05:23:53.080 project um their desired self that's i think them more on the hammer aspect maybe with a little bit
05:24:02.840 too much of a positive outlook or but or a little bit shooting above the bar but a lot of times i
05:24:09.400 think filkias in my experience with especially with other people are are symbolic in animals
05:24:16.120 they never even would have considered but when i see them um i see that connection or i see that
05:24:25.000 symbology um so obsidian skull says it was me who asked the other day but i'm not talking about the
05:24:39.080 show i'm talking about big ape people in the woods of alaska there's a show people build their cabins
05:24:48.120 so i have never heard about helpful bigfoot people helping people construct cabins
05:24:57.560 but i will tell you one thing um my uncle worked as a fish and game biologist
05:25:04.280 and he'd go out in the middle of the you know middle of nowhere where no white man's ever been
05:25:10.920 or whatever and he would take you know samples do do studies in the river of how many fish are
05:25:17.560 running through do those kind of things this guy he worked with seemingly completely sane normal
05:25:26.600 you know no warning signs on this guy he went out in the bush in the middle of nowhere
05:25:31.640 near uh ruby alaska and uh he got snowed in and he was in this cabin for a number of days
05:25:43.780 and this not my uncle but his friend and so he was out there he's in this cabin and he swore
05:25:50.160 when he came back that he was under siege by these like bigfoot midgets by like furry
05:25:59.720 short squat bigfoot people that were chucking logs at the side of his cabin and at the roof
05:26:08.300 of his cabin and terrorizing this guy and he came back he was sober he told this story to people
05:26:16.600 and everything else remained normal like the guy didn't like lose his mind was crazy for the rest
05:26:23.340 his life everything else was normal except for this story that he swore to so i'm not endorsing
05:26:30.300 it i'm just saying that's the closest i've got to alaska bigfoot people was the woodsman of ruby
05:26:37.820 i i would also recommend if anybody's interested in the um look up missing 411 the sierra camp
05:26:46.700 in which uh there was three i believe there are three um uh like they were mountain mountaineering
05:26:55.420 they weren't living in the mountains they were going there for hunting or something
05:26:59.340 and they have audio recordings as they they were attacked by um these creatures throwing rocks at
05:27:07.500 their camp and they were inside their cabin and there's audio of these rocks hitting the cabins
05:27:13.020 and it sounds like i mean just straight a boulder hitting your log cabin um and there's a lot of
05:27:21.580 vocalizations in that that it could be a fake i'm not claiming it to be real but it's certainly
05:27:27.820 interesting and it's just audio so that's kind of it's uh it was recorded on i forgot the device it
05:27:34.620 tells you in the thing it's very hard to fake because they you can't even like go over and
05:27:40.140 re-record over it it's like one time and that's it but why they had that that's an interesting
05:27:47.580 question so so that honestly i'm not saying i buy into it or whatever that stuff's fascinating to me
05:27:54.940 however um so we're we're winding down to the last couple of questions they keep throwing
05:28:03.420 them in on us and we'll keep going um gentlemen what's happening with the soul of our people
05:28:12.460 white europeans who are not practicing our faith can they go to the hall of the ancestors
05:28:19.580 or is this pat is or this path is close to them thanks absolutely i think those uh those folks go
05:28:28.860 to the hall of our ancestors i don't think that the hebrew god gets to take our people by fiat
05:28:38.380 i don't think it works that way um i believe in ethnic religion as a concept and that said
05:28:48.860 ethnic gods have hegemony over their ethnic practitioners of their faith or their ethnic
05:28:55.500 Catholic people, even if they have gone astray from that.
05:29:01.620 So many, almost all of us, when we celebrate our ancestors, most all of the ancestors that any of us have known have been Christian.
05:29:12.240 That any, you know, any of us can put names to or have pictures of are Christians.
05:29:17.800 And we believe strongly we know with all our being that they interact with us from beyond the veil.
05:29:25.500 That said, I have to believe that those folks do go to our ancestors.
05:29:31.000 Their chance of ascension, I think, is different because they haven't conceived of the gods and the soul in the way that is necessary.
05:29:42.480 So I think that they would need to be reeducated in that way.
05:29:47.620 but absolutely our ancestors hear and interact with our prayers watch on from beyond you know my
05:29:58.260 most powerful d seer is my grandmother very much a you know i say very much she was a christian
05:30:06.340 she didn't really go to church in my lifetime um
05:30:10.420 Um, but when I called out to my DC, or she, she, she came to me, um, I believe very strongly
05:30:20.260 that she's with our ancestors, that she watches over me.
05:30:24.640 None of that is in any kind of a Christian context.
05:30:28.700 Uh, she would never have considered herself also true or any kind of, of paganism that
05:30:35.660 would have been antithetical to, to her upbringing.
05:30:38.500 but i know that she hears when i make offerings to her and that she's there watching over me
05:30:46.280 and i think most of or a great many of us know that and are very aware of that truth
05:30:55.240 how that fleshes out i don't think that you know yahweh and odin like get in a tug-of-war match
05:31:03.160 or something when somebody passes i think there's truth and there's time you know and
05:31:12.040 i think that when
05:31:19.160 this is this is some matte upg but i like to think that when when we die
05:31:25.400 there's some kind of a revelation of some truth that we don't get to see as clearly
05:31:33.160 in this life. But I think that the proof is there in the afterlife. And we see that we see that countless times. Our ancestors come to greet us and usher us into the life beyond the veil. That is a very common thing.
05:31:58.160 uh in near-death experiences certainly it's something we know to be true but it's not
05:32:05.360 something that's supported by the uh the desert uh the desert religion's belief in how things work
05:32:13.040 so i think truth truth transcends religious preference truth is true whether we we embrace
05:32:21.280 it or we don't embrace it what are your thoughts fun i think it's imperative that we honor our
05:32:26.720 our uh christian ancestors i think it's imperative and incumbent upon every outsider to honor them
05:32:34.320 because now they know they're not going to gehenna they're not going to get poked in the
05:32:40.800 butt by a spear carrying shadim um even though the names are they change the names to demons
05:32:50.520 and hell and all that stuff at the end of the day when you go over what this is really about
05:32:56.460 and you explain it to people you realize that they don't have any clue of how foreign and how alien
05:33:02.220 all of that stuff is and i think that when our ancestors no matter who they are go back to the
05:33:08.460 rest of the ancestors they realize and they're they are brought about to understand um you know
05:33:16.940 i i made a i made a funny post a little while back just to be snarky because um i remember i
05:33:23.340 remember these christians talking about how like they didn't like it when atheists like communists
05:33:28.460 tell them how to be christian and and then they ask are you christian well they kind of did the
05:33:33.180 same thing to to us or even to me was um you know why you know you don't you don't honor your
05:33:39.660 ancestors or you don't honor your christian ancestors so i made a funny joke showing these
05:33:44.700 people in the the 1950s in i think in england and they're having a mayday festival and they're all
05:33:50.620 around the maypole or actually i think it was sweden sweden and uh it's it is very very very
05:33:57.820 folkish native faith going on and i said uh you asked me if i don't if i honor my christian
05:34:05.820 ancestors these are my christian ancestors and they're doing the maple and of course uh a lot
05:34:10.620 of uh this made a lot of christians upset um and i say good that's that's fine um it's that wasn't
05:34:18.380 who it was directed at it was directed at the people that realize that our ancestors even though
05:34:24.620 they you know they went to church and and uh did all the things they felt necessary to do
05:34:30.860 when they lived their lives and they were part of their culture and complete and they're part of
05:34:35.180 their their souls were really really singing in joy and happiness it's always associated around
05:34:40.940 their their folk beliefs it was just it was curved it was there was a there was a ceiling
05:34:49.260 in which they they couldn't really cross over i don't fault them for it and um again i don't
05:34:55.580 think they're damned or exalted in some other afterlife they're with my ancestors they understand
05:35:01.740 now uh my are they they're with our ancestors they understand now and i will happily see them
05:35:08.780 when I cross over.
05:35:18.400 So the next question from...
05:35:23.520 That was the last question.
05:35:26.100 It's not the last question anymore.
05:35:28.120 Fun fact, founder McNallan started the Viking Brotherhood
05:35:31.700 through an ad in the 1970 Fate magazine.
05:35:36.680 All's hair you're goothy.
05:35:37.980 You know if the ad still exists in any form.
05:35:41.660 I'd love even a photocopy.
05:35:44.440 I am unaware of if it exists in any form.
05:35:48.000 I would like to find that and see.
05:35:50.560 I think that's really interesting.
05:35:52.060 So much of that early stuff is very unattainable to us.
05:35:56.640 So I will ask Brandy tomorrow if we can try to run that down and see if we can obtain a photocopy of that.
05:36:05.800 I think that'd be really cool just to have.
05:36:11.780 I see Ryan's like, please stop asking them questions.
05:36:19.000 All right.
05:36:19.920 So what we got right now looks like our last question, but we'll see.
05:36:24.420 We'll see.
05:36:26.320 Gentlemen, can the gut feeling be associated with the folk soul slash hive mind?
05:36:34.240 or it's something different p.s stream is reaching legendary levels uh thank you for your hard work
05:36:44.160 and we got another question um so first
05:36:50.720 thank you i'm glad that you you know appreciate this i'm glad that you guys like this
05:36:56.400 it is late i'm not gonna lie i'm tired but i love this this is literally what
05:37:05.280 this is what i've chosen to do with my life i look forward to this every week
05:37:12.800 i really really love this and uh i'm glad that you guys
05:37:19.920 want to sit here and listen to us for five and a half it's amazing
05:37:23.760 um no thank you guys this is awesome
05:37:32.400 so gut feeling yes two away folks so i don't know um
05:37:43.680 philgia perhaps many perhaps
05:37:47.440 but yeah part of that soul complex gives you a heads up on certain things
05:37:57.760 perception is a part of that and it's not the hammer but it's the thing that would allow you
05:38:07.680 to see someone else's hammer your ability to pick up on something just doesn't smell right here
05:38:16.320 Hey, I've got a creepy feeling about this. Your spidey sense is tingling, gut feelings. Absolutely. That is your connectivity to that folk soul through elements of your soul complex. I believe absolutely that is the case. What are your thoughts on this one?
05:38:37.940 yeah the uh the hive mind thing i think i know what he's going with on that one in the sense
05:38:46.380 that um perhaps if there's a like a blood memory or a genetic memory of something that that could
05:38:55.760 give you that instinct i i perhaps i think more so that i think where alzheimer is going with it
05:39:02.840 is is better is that it's um that you know the philkia is kind of your proto-self it is
05:39:10.520 in an essence until it is elevated through the odor it is um it is a proto-er self and it involves
05:39:19.720 a lot of deep instinctual uh issues it's even though it's last on the list doesn't mean it's
05:39:26.120 the furthest away from ever anything it's all encapsulated and that the the philchia does have
05:39:31.800 um you know that that third sense that primitive sense of understanding of danger
05:39:37.560 um and it's strange because i watched a lot of videos of people um you know where they're
05:39:43.800 completely unaware of things so a lot of people are deeply disconnected from or i even wonder if
05:39:51.400 it could be bred out of people where they just they they stop having that feeling of
05:39:58.680 of or if it is the hive mind folks will they're somehow disconnected from it
05:40:03.400 in the sense because they i've seen people just completely oblivious uh on video just suffering
05:40:10.600 from their utter lack of awareness or the utter lack of just understanding that they are clearly
05:40:16.520 in trouble whether it's from an animal or whether it's from an assailant you know it's just terrible
05:40:23.960 to watch but it seems to be and i don't i think i i've seen and met people who have it stronger than
05:40:30.760 others um and i i don't i don't exactly know where that comes from i think it's more individual based
05:40:38.120 because i've also met people who just their blinders are on they're out of it they don't
05:40:45.080 even they're not even aware of anything that has that instinct coming out of them so i don't know
05:40:52.760 i would say individual for now getting loopy over in the side chat uh suggesting that we need to
05:41:00.760 evolve into some sort of dolphin hybrid to be able to sleep part of our brains while the rest of it
05:41:09.080 goes on uh goes on doing this epic the chat is wild yeah it's wild somebody suggests hey
05:41:17.560 i'm looking tired i need to go to sleep you are absolutely right i will take your advice
05:41:21.720 here in just a sec got one last question we're going to go ahead and hit that
05:41:28.840 this is not even lying i am tony king of cheese well hell here's a question for you too
05:41:37.400 how's the night treating you both still kicking damn it and in the meantime another question has
05:41:44.840 emerged but that's okay we'll keep going so tony i i told you earlier after you'd gone to bed now
05:41:54.360 you've long since woken up because we've been doing this for almost six hours but um
05:41:59.320 I'm doing great. I love this. This is awesome. It's been a really fun night.
05:42:06.360 We've had great questions, talking to one of my best friends. I'm doing great.
05:42:11.340 I'm still kicking, just barely. I'm looking forward to this being over so I can go to sleep.
05:42:18.060 Still got a little bit of a macros to get in, but no, I'm having a great night.
05:42:24.320 Svon, how are you doing? How's the night treating you? And are you still kicking?
05:42:27.940 oh i'm still kicking um yeah i could do this all night uh i hate i hate to be that guy but i have
05:42:39.280 that guy um i guess it's just years of standing watch looking at inanimate objects for hours on
05:42:46.380 end to spread me this way now no spawn's looking spry he's uh i'm having the ball this is he's
05:42:54.560 doing good. He's doing good. Um, last question that I see, but again, we'll see what happens.
05:43:00.700 This is round three on last questions. Um, gentlemen, how can we help slash enhance the
05:43:07.840 soul of the fellow men who are not practicing out so true and are not serious about their soul
05:43:15.700 quality? Uh, you not quitting. You're not quitting. Are you victory never sleeps? Thanks. No, I'm
05:43:23.760 not quitting i'll be here until the last question's done we even got another question after yours
05:43:28.320 so that being said how can we help them um the first part those who are not practicing
05:43:37.520 also true is one thing the second part those who are not serious about their soul quality is another
05:43:46.480 if people don't care there's very little you can do except provide them opportunities
05:43:53.760 But when they do care and they don't happen to be out of the tree yet, then there's a lot we can do.
05:44:01.760 I think being an example, I think letting them know what we're doing, inviting them to streams like this, maybe not the last hour because we've been a little bit goofy.
05:44:14.600 but in general inviting them to things giving them the opportunity to have a spiritual awakening
05:44:24.040 i think that's some of the best things we can do to folks that aren't actively
05:44:28.440 out to true currently um if they don't care sometimes that takes life knocking them on
05:44:35.240 their butt and then they get that uh they develop that spiritual need but certainly things you can
05:44:43.800 do to help the soul of fellow men not practicing aussitrew is give them that opportunity so many
05:44:50.840 of our folk don't know that we're here it's one of the things with media um all of us in the afa
05:45:01.160 as leaders are very uncomfortable with the media because they shine a light and they're very
05:45:05.880 critical and they're sleazy but what we have seen is every time we do get interviewed by the media
05:45:15.480 or there is a news story about us we gain members the people who hate what we're doing and who we
05:45:22.120 are those people are all woke and they're going to hate us no matter what but what media does
05:45:30.920 is it opens us up to an audience of people that didn't know we existed and didn't know we were a
05:45:35.800 thing and those people do come and join us and are a big part of what we do so give those folk
05:45:45.080 that you have influence with the opportunity to experience this that we're all sharing
05:45:51.400 i think that's what you can do what are your thoughts fun
05:45:54.200 yeah the best thing you can do is show them the positive um you can i mean the internet is full
05:46:04.440 of all kinds of exposure to things um and you can find out stuff that you want to believe or
05:46:11.880 you're willing to believe or maybe not or you just give it time it's only a matter of time before all
05:46:17.080 these you know conspiracies come true at the end of the day that's separate from what you could
05:46:23.400 viably show which is getting together having kindreds having family get togethers having uh
05:46:31.080 or just if it's just a couple of you know people who are interested or getting them together and
05:46:37.800 holding community stuff it doesn't have to be a bloke because a lot of times people are still
05:46:43.160 very very res they they're distant from it they don't know that but if you can
05:46:47.800 just offer them the decency of good friendship and good company and virtuous life and they see that
05:46:57.400 and then you you're um i'm also true and this is what we do and it can grow organically you can't
05:47:05.720 a lot i know a lot of people back in the day were very very um announced we were very very against
05:47:10.600 proselytizing um and i don't think it's that we proselytize i think that we organically
05:47:16.920 um show by our deeds by doing and if if we continue to do and it's only a matter of time
05:47:25.840 before they ask uh what is this about why are you doing this what's you know and as soon as it's
05:47:31.900 again it's like the car the moment they purchase the car and they start seeing the car everywhere
05:47:36.700 the moment they start asking about the god and they start asking about their ancestors and how
05:47:41.000 reach out uh or you know it's all so often in time i hear somebody say you know i really do love my
05:47:47.880 great-great-grandfather i have a picture of him and i i um i kind of say hello to him like almost
05:47:53.160 every morning before i go to work and i'm just like that's ancestor worship you're doing house
05:47:57.880 which are already and a lot of people are like man i i do feel this i just don't understand the
05:48:03.160 divine and i tell him you've got to like i was here he says you have to give them the opportunity
05:48:10.200 you have the moment and the only way they're ever going to open themselves up to that opportunity
05:48:15.480 is if there's value in what they see around it which is the goodness of the people the nobility
05:48:20.360 of their actions and the cohesiveness of their community that can't be a bunch of like
05:48:28.360 wackos talking about you know like you gotta put your aluminum foil on because
05:48:33.640 you know the vaccine's gonna expose the that the kazarites are shooting satellite bullets from
05:48:40.040 space it gets odd and instead it should be like have you ever been hunting before
05:48:48.040 you ever been bowling before let's go do stuff let's go out there uh and kind of um
05:48:55.960 be uh do the simple acts of revolution against the um the onslaught of everything that we're
05:49:02.680 that's pumped into our heads uh you know build raised garden beds um do stuff with people
05:49:10.440 go help the kids go teach the kids something um you get what i'm saying i'm kind of beating a
05:49:17.720 dead horse on that one but yeah it's it's what's around so opportunity next question how long can
05:49:25.160 Svahn lecture. Matt can go to bed. Let's find out. Allie, I'd reiterate the caution of the
05:49:33.840 all-father. It's best to be middling-wise. I don't really want to plumb the depth of that well.
05:49:42.960 Let's just leave that a mystery. Let's embrace the mystery.
05:49:47.000 um gentlemen at what point the soul enters the body of the baby during birth in the mother's
05:49:55.960 womb thanks this is it that's an interesting question so yes but that's the point of the
05:50:04.680 soul complex pieces affix themselves to that new life
05:50:11.240 over time. Um, and I think that you see that, um, certainly the leak is like you can, with, um,
05:50:30.000 can tell that i'm tired with the ultrasounds you can watch the leak develop it's fascinating
05:50:42.900 so mandy's already gone to bed maybe she won't hear this anyways we had kids late in life
05:50:49.340 so one of the things was they categorized her pregnancy as a geriatric pregnancy
05:50:55.120 she she's not a fan of that term i don't think most women are but insurance wise it meant that
05:51:03.720 we got to see a lot of ultrasounds during aubrey's development and it was really cool you can watch
05:51:12.640 her little body develop and you know there's a point that we joke that aubrey's this little
05:51:20.580 manatee and she looked like this little manatee and then it's time she became more and more like
05:51:27.540 a little baby human and as she was getting closer to the end of the gestation period
05:51:34.980 no she's absolutely like you can see she's absolutely a little human
05:51:40.020 um so the leak you can watch it developed uh
05:51:44.580 But you see this, too. I mean, this is one of those things that was just miraculous and beautiful, watching my daughter get born and watching her grow.
05:51:57.240 You can see as those awarenesses, those things, imbue themselves and affix themselves to her.
05:52:11.940 You can watch as she starts being aware and aware of her surroundings.
05:52:17.940 And her huger expands.
05:52:20.980 At first, the awareness is very, very small.
05:52:23.580 and as she hears more and sees more it expands um and we're going to talk about this in later
05:52:32.720 episodes as well but when she's you know by our custom nine days old we did a baby naming
05:52:43.440 and at that point i named her after my grandfather and so that part of her soul complex that
05:52:53.300 Hymenia got the boost of not only us accepting her as a family and those we had gathered around
05:53:02.060 us accepting her as part of our community, but me naming her after my grandfather, who was so
05:53:08.420 very important to me, we affixed a powerful Hymenia to her that will go with her and set her
05:53:19.620 off with a good start in life. It has set her off with a good start in life. And you can watch as
05:53:29.940 the memory takes hold and as she remembers things, as she associates things, as things
05:53:37.920 stand out as special to her that she attaches sentimentality to, as her mind starts to
05:53:47.160 contemplate more and more things so gradual process it's not an immediate process you know
05:53:53.780 the question is when does the soul fix itself it's a very long process so much of we had this
05:54:01.440 baby app of when the baby sleeps and when they're going to have a fussy day and when they're not
05:54:08.440 and it was amazing how accurate it was that's because our little brain grows and at certain
05:54:16.840 points that healer expands and her mind comprehends other things like wow if i close my eyes
05:54:25.960 where does daddy go if i close my eyes where does mommy go are they still there
05:54:31.240 what does that do and and you know the little waking up at night nightmares the more i read
05:54:36.920 and study is thought to be you know these existential awarenesses of wow if i have these
05:54:46.040 things i could lose them i could not have them what what do i do with that uh oh you know wow
05:54:56.200 my actions can affect other people and make them sad i can not only can i feel pain but if i bite
05:55:04.200 you know if i bite daddy it's gonna hurt and then he then he's hurt and he's mad at me what is that
05:55:10.840 like you watch that soul develop. And that's what I think is such an inherent truth
05:55:18.520 in the soul complex that we're presenting is it's layered over time. And each of these
05:55:24.600 parts of the soul grow and expand and mature. So I would say, you know, there's a piece of
05:55:32.360 the soul that starts at conception. I think that pieces of that soul grow and develop during
05:55:39.880 gestation i think in an official way the soul counts as you are a person at officially at that
05:55:49.560 baby naming but you watch in those first you know year or two that soul take its form and take its
05:55:58.920 shape so i don't think there's you know it's not like there's absolutely nothing and then boom
05:56:05.720 there's a fully developed soul in the blink of an eye i don't think it works like that
05:56:10.680 and i think that's one of the beautiful things about our lore and our truth what are your
05:56:16.760 thoughts swan uh you covered a lot of it i the only thing i wanted to say was i remember
05:56:24.040 in um the early 90s a lot of asatruer who or i wouldn't even call them asatruer
05:56:31.320 comparatively now but a lot of these people were speaking of the ancient uh or not ancient but
05:56:37.640 elder practice of the nords there are accounts of times when they had to um place their children out
05:56:45.720 in the cold and they were talking about this like this was like a just a normal thing and they were
05:56:51.560 doing it to justify their concepts of modern abortion um and i thought it was such a disgusting
05:57:01.240 thing to hear them talk about because in every one of those testaments there's always the there
05:57:08.120 there was wailing crying they they were they were not happy that they had to do this these decisions
05:57:13.160 were made because they couldn't feed anyone else they didn't have any food they were they were on
05:57:19.240 the verge of death themselves there this was a terrible time to be and i to hear these kind of
05:57:25.640 like smarmy armchair like coffee house liberals talking about that they just did this because it
05:57:33.240 was just okay to do it was kind of like really really infuriating to me it was one of the first
05:57:39.320 like red pills of things um so i and obviously that was not the good of the for the folk at the
05:57:47.720 time uh it still isn't and i think that it's really important that we understand that the the
05:57:53.640 soul complex is you know i have very little concern about what other people do to their
05:57:59.800 offspring but i am concerned with what my people do with their offspring and um i think that it's
05:58:06.680 understood that once you go down this path you're you're the first part of the soul complex is the
05:58:13.000 leak and just like elsewhere he says it develops on from there it's it's important um i know i
05:58:21.400 understand health reasons now again those are situations the decisions that are made for certain
05:58:28.920 health reasons um of the child in particular um i understand that um and that is not as long as
05:58:38.200 everybody's understanding that that's not the good of the situation having a child that's born brain
05:58:43.640 dead is not the good of the situation um the idea is to go for the whole and um the wholeness of it
05:58:52.840 so i understand medical things and i'm not going to split hairs and go down that road
05:58:57.160 but what i'm ultimately talking about is the the best of all the situation the idea is first
05:59:04.200 and foremost when you see the child and you see the leak formed that is the start of it and when
05:59:10.360 you give the the baby you fasten the name you complete the process by giving the baby humming
05:59:20.440 and then you just get to see that soul develop over and over and over again until it's our time
05:59:27.480 to go and and they have their chance to see their offspring do you say
05:59:36.040 so it is
05:59:41.800 shocking and appalling that this needs to be said
05:59:50.360 unfortunately the world that we live in
05:59:53.240 then it doesn't go without saying somehow.
05:59:59.360 Killing babies is bad.
06:00:03.780 And it would be funny to say if it wasn't sickening that people don't get that.
06:00:14.880 I'm not out to curse anyone who's made that decision.
06:00:19.520 there are circumstances that there are many bad outcomes, and maybe the best outcome is that child doesn't get born.
06:00:33.500 But those are few and far between, and there's no instance to where killing a baby isn't terrible.
06:00:43.780 um yeah our ancestors when it meant that other children would die of starvation
06:00:52.700 because they didn't possibly have enough for one more mouth to feed
06:00:57.860 that's a terrible thing it wasn't so you can go clubbing it was so the children that you do have
06:01:07.540 could live um there's horrible things where your child could be born horribly deformed or
06:01:16.100 many other things and i don't it's not my intention to prime my way into that
06:01:26.420 but as a fundamental truth killing babies is bad
06:01:31.460 mobs of people in New York a couple of years ago are celebrating infanticide in the streets
06:01:41.640 with t-shirts about how many babies they've aborted.
06:01:46.660 And I don't say this to bring the mood down or to be morbid, but we are in a world today
06:01:56.040 where I need to specify that killing babies is bad.
06:02:02.740 The first question we had on this show so many hours ago
06:02:07.540 was how does our soul sickness affect the soul?
06:02:14.700 The fact that it doesn't go without saying that killing babies is bad
06:02:20.060 is a shocking testament to how sick the soul of our folk have gotten
06:02:27.020 for what that's worth.
06:02:32.940 All right. Matt, you might have answered this at some point already, but what does the AFAS take
06:02:41.960 on how literal the Eddas are? Do you view Viking text as history or allegory?
06:02:51.020 depends on the viking text some of it is clearly history in terms of a lot of sagas
06:02:57.900 but the eddas are very different they were never the lore of indigenous religions
06:03:07.340 is never meant to be literal like chronological historical truth that's not how myth works
06:03:17.580 works that's unfortunate because it's how the Abrahamic faiths it's how their sacred texts
06:03:25.740 are intended to work but that isn't how other cultures mythic texts have ever been intended
06:03:33.660 to work they are absolutely true but they are not meant as literal truths they're meant
06:03:43.500 to put a picture and a concept to greater truths in a way that our ancestors could digest
06:03:54.340 those truths.
06:03:57.920 So they're absolutely true, but they're not sequentially historical events in that way.
06:04:09.880 And to be honest, ancestors didn't think of them that way, and neither do we.
06:04:15.940 We're not silly.
06:04:17.980 There's no point that you can go find the edge of the rainbow and climb up it and then, you know, go physically to a big hall that's got a golden roof and talk to an old man with one eye.
06:04:33.240 That's not how our myths are meant.
06:04:37.080 What is a thousand million percent true is when you reach out to Odin and you approach him with gifts and with offerings and worship, that he hears you and he can reciprocate blessings to you.
06:04:53.600 That is truer than anything else that exists.
06:04:59.140 But the conceptualization of him in a human form teaches us truths about him and about how we perceive him.
06:05:12.060 But it's not to say that you go and poke some old guy sitting on a throne.
06:05:18.440 the reality of odin is transcendent and beyond what your mind can comprehend
06:05:26.780 it's encapsulated into a form that you can conceptualize but it's so much more and so
06:05:33.480 much beyond that we've never claimed you know the literal historical truth of each of the myths as
06:05:43.380 they're portrayed in our Etta's, but the metaphysical truth of them, we believe in a thousand percent.
06:05:54.840 Okay, gentlemen, how can we enhance the soul of a pregnant mother and developing baby?
06:06:03.600 Praying, ritual, honorable deeds? What is the baby counter nowadays? Thanks. I don't know,
06:06:12.260 but it's a lot. It's bigger than it's been ever before. It gets bigger every year. We have been
06:06:18.660 blessed with so many amazing babies in the Oster Folk Assembly. It keeps growing.
06:06:25.460 You answered your question with your pieces of your question. Praying, ritual, honorable deeds.
06:06:34.520 Yes, absolutely. All of those things. We have blessings at AFA events of the ladies blessing wombs with children growing in them.
06:06:44.520 them. Developing a strong and healthy spiritual family for that child to be born in? Absolutely.
06:06:55.380 Reassuring that mother that there are people here who care for her and her child no matter what,
06:07:01.560 and who will take care of that baby and take care of that mother if need be,
06:07:05.580 if circumstances turn you know desperate absolutely our older women being able to
06:07:14.300 pass on their knowledge of pregnancy and of childbirth and reassuring that woman a thousand
06:07:21.260 percent those are all things that we can do and certainly beseeching the gods and the ancestors
06:07:27.580 to look over her and to strengthen her absolutely good things to do what are your thoughts on it's
06:07:33.260 fun uh i would say definitely as far as building the soul of the woman building the mic of the
06:07:44.060 soul with the humming yeah i mean first and foremost the deeds of being a uh preparing for
06:07:51.980 a parent again i was talking about mantles and then fulfilling those mantles or preparing to
06:07:57.660 fill them you're gonna have the hardest time after when dealing raising children is difficult um it's
06:08:06.380 not always a breeze um but preparing yourself for that mantle is good so being involved being
06:08:14.060 involved uh you know with your wife in preparation for the baby the other thing is yes i would say
06:08:20.780 too i mean i i'm one of those first ones that kind of says yes make prayers make offerings
06:08:27.500 burn incense and give thanks to frig give thanks to all the maidens of fensaler and ask them to
06:08:35.180 watch over your wife and child and um because i did that myself numerous times and um and i have
06:08:45.340 in in one very literal sense received an answer but every time i've always been reassured
06:08:50.780 the pathway was as it was supposed to be so yes seek might in the gods and in your ancestors ask
06:09:00.060 them to help as well and again prepare for the mantle get involved don't be afraid don't shirk
06:09:06.860 stuff off go to the classes learn the stuff get the pediatricians and get everything in line
06:09:14.060 do what you need to do throw yourself into it that builds humming absolutely
06:09:21.500 also is there some demonic or evil force that can take over dreams i don't know a lot about
06:09:27.900 also true but have been having some crazy vivid and memorable nightmares lately um i'm sorry to hear
06:09:36.140 that uh i don't know of any also true freddy krueger that that goes around and haunts your
06:09:45.980 nightmares but i'm not not to make light of it there are sinister forces in the world
06:09:53.340 very often your dreams are a conduit for all these parts of the soul that we've talked about
06:10:00.620 to communicate with you, for the different pieces of yourself to speak through your eck, I guess.
06:10:17.620 And that's important. Dreams are also a chance for the ancestors and the gods to speak and communicate with you.
06:10:30.620 But sometimes you just have nightmares and those are unfortunate.
06:10:35.620 I wouldn't write it off. I wouldn't suggest that there's no sinister forces that might be acting on you.
06:10:44.620 But I think that's usually a very extreme example and not the norm.
06:10:51.620 But I think you have so much resources within your soul and your soul complex, which we've been talking about tonight, that can contextualize and buttress you from the negative effects of nightmares.
06:11:10.640 and that's what i would be looking at is the deeper meanings of the things that you're having
06:11:17.840 nightmares about and the ways of integrating those pieces of your soul that can help buttress you
06:11:25.100 against those those fears or that crisis what are your thoughts swan well i'm i'm gonna go just a
06:11:35.480 little bit more into like their folklore side when we talk about the knocked mata or the
06:11:41.100 yeah and and it's interesting now because we just went through hexanoct and in hexanoct you know we
06:11:48.720 prepare with with with protecting the folk from uh you know those those dissipated forces them
06:11:56.660 the mockery of the feminine the uh the hag of the knights or or the troll witches as they're
06:12:01.880 referred to in some of the stories um oh then you know going amongst them and thor slaughtering them
06:12:09.020 um or or if they're flying amongst the raptors the runes to say to bring them
06:12:14.180 down and so they lose their way uh but ultimately culturally these this whatever this is one of the
06:12:23.780 things i would highly recommend you do is um take salt and salt your house this is an old
06:12:30.620 icelandic tradition my mother used to do it she spoke of the fact that um things of malicious
06:12:36.780 intent like that cannot walk on pure earth so salt everywhere salt your house um leave it for
06:12:44.900 a couple of days and then vacuum your entire house um if it persists um reach out reach out
06:12:56.460 me on uh um runestone.org and um i will um i'll try to help you out
06:13:05.980 but i that's the folklore side if you have something plaguing you internally that could
06:13:12.940 also create an opening for well in essence the malevolence within your like psyche within your
06:13:21.180 mind within your me know within your your mind is is being plagued sometimes that can happen too
06:13:27.980 sometimes bad dreams are just bad dreams like as her ago they said um and so you need to
06:13:36.220 uh look at what's possibly pressing you what's making you uh open to this kind of a attack if
06:13:44.140 if you will. This has happened to somebody else in the church. And the concept that I brought
06:13:55.080 through this member was that if it's malevolent outside external force, then we will go with the
06:14:01.340 folklore path. But there's also possibly an origination from yourself or from the person
06:14:06.660 that's suffering where there's some sort of trauma, unanswered trauma, unanswered something
06:14:12.480 is going on and it needs to be answered because it's creating cracks in your your huet while
06:14:19.080 you're sleeping and it's seeping out with all of your fears and other things so i'm not stating
06:14:25.620 one way or the other let's go with both and just uh if you need to any further on that reach out
06:14:33.440 to me and that's that's a thing uh we don't ever want to trivialize this stuff there are
06:14:40.200 spiritual forces. Obviously, we believe that. If you have a serious spiritual concern about
06:14:46.940 something like that, do please reach out to your go far. The next question is one that I know
06:14:55.120 is prickly, but I think it's important that we answer it honestly. What's the stance on naming
06:15:03.800 babies after the gods slash goddesses. Our daughter is Freya, named before I came to
06:15:10.440 Alcatru, but I wondered if that's a no-no within the faith. So here's the thing.
06:15:23.880 Everyone that has named their child after one of the gods
06:15:28.320 is going to have an invested interest in this,
06:15:34.520 and I don't intend to hurt anybody's feelings or be rude in any way.
06:15:45.140 And the gods know this too.
06:15:47.260 Here's the thing.
06:15:49.040 The gods understand intention,
06:15:51.720 and they understand and see what's in your heart.
06:15:55.260 So, no, if I would have everything all to do over again, you asked me before you had a child, should I name this child after one of our gods?
06:16:07.460 No, not directly.
06:16:09.420 The way that that would be appropriate would be conjugating a name somehow.
06:16:15.820 Like for Thor, there's all these examples of Thorbjorn or Thorstein or, you know, Freitas, the priestess of Frey, the rock of Thor, the bear of Thor, all of these things.
06:16:41.480 You can add a God's name into it if it has a qualifier to it.
06:16:51.480 Directly naming after the gods?
06:16:53.640 No, that's not something that is optimally appropriate.
06:16:58.200 It's not something your ancestors would have done.
06:17:03.700 We have generations of people now that have chosen to do that,
06:17:08.600 and i don't think it's some kind of of horrible slight against all that's good and holy i just
06:17:17.560 i think that the more we can do to stop doing that the better and i think that in future generations
06:17:26.440 naming them
06:17:29.640 with the god's name conjugated with something is the right way to do things
06:17:38.600 what i think there's less emotional attachment to and is worth saying
06:17:43.320 please stop naming your dogs after the gods i think that's
06:17:50.600 very inappropriate and i think again it may have been meant out of the best things the gods no
06:17:56.680 intentions but please stop naming your pets after the gods as far as your children go i think it
06:18:04.600 would be really good if from here forward we make sure to name our children if we want to honor a
06:18:11.080 god or a goddess in that child's naming to do it with a conjugation instead of just by itself
06:18:19.640 so a little background on that that the first first afa event that i went to was mid-summer of
06:18:28.200 2010 and a very old um long time gothe of the afa uh david james gave a talk on that very subject
06:18:42.680 and taught me about this this is you know one of the last talks he was able to give he is the first
06:18:50.440 of our gothar that actually you know passed away in office as a gothe of the afa
06:18:55.720 and he talked about that at midsummer and i thought it was very important i think it's very
06:19:01.780 important now um so yeah and i and again i don't mean any disrespect with that i'm sure your
06:19:09.520 intentions were the best possible and i don't think you know i don't think there's some horrible
06:19:15.420 you know consequence to that uh but that's the best way i have to answer your questions
06:19:21.600 svan what do you say well the only like you know when you speak of um say like odin or thor
06:19:30.160 you know they're that that's hard that's a hard connection i mean that's whereas you know with
06:19:37.520 with frey and freya we you know we do know that that means the lord and the lady um but it's still
06:19:46.240 not culturally kind of accepted in the sense that what was seen as more culturally accepted was to
06:19:55.040 add in conjugation with something um but yes again just as as her as her your god he said
06:20:03.440 your intentions good and there's no like real
06:20:07.520 heavy uh condemnation in the sense it's like oh you're in trouble now or something like nothing
06:20:17.840 of that nature at all it's just that uh culturally it's it's more it seemed more acceptable to our
06:20:23.600 ancestors and that's kind of carried on today to not name your children and it's it's really hard
06:20:29.920 line when you think of like you know uh the gods in and of themselves like thor if you name your
06:20:38.320 son thor that's there's no that's direct right there but thorstein thor bjorn uh scythor like
06:20:46.720 my my cousin's name um that was you know they even did stuff in the front not always connected in the
06:20:54.000 back um uh yeah just from there on out go and say okay well we'll we'll go from here and the other
06:21:03.200 thing too to remember is uh hopefully it will always be in uh the the people that know your
06:21:09.440 your daughter it will maybe and live in them to uh hear about the gods think about the gods
06:21:17.280 maybe it'll lead them down those paths so you know
06:21:20.160 but yeah stop naming the dogs and cats and turtles
06:21:26.400 all right guys well so that was in fact the last question this has been an epic broadcast i knew
06:21:39.580 long didn't didn't know it'd be six hours and 18 minutes but i regret none of it it's been great to
06:21:48.980 spend the evening with you guys it's fun thank you so much you're a trooper i appreciate you
06:21:53.360 being here for all of this um no you guys are awesome uh love y'all we'll see you guys next
06:22:02.380 week till then hail the gods hail the folk hail the afa i might sleep but remember
06:22:10.680 the victory never never sleeps and we proved it
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