00:04:45.320I think this is the Aryan soul complex in general with Old Norse terms.
00:04:50.380this is a complex subject it's something that I know many of us have you know studied or read
00:05:02.120about or aware of but just figuring out what goes where and what pieces do what is is always a little
00:05:08.200bit tricky so if I expect a lot of questions tonight and if you know things get turned around
00:05:16.400or there's some some overlap in some stuff please bear with us um
00:05:23.360so it is a it's a new month i might as well start with some with some news of the day um
00:05:32.880things are going really good it's kind of a progress report deal we've uh paid off
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00:05:58.880still owe about a hundred and ten thousand on it um that breaks down to almost you know almost
00:06:06.880a hundred bucks a member if every afa member gave a hundred bucks we'd be we'd be have that thing
00:06:12.080paid off tomorrow and could start looking for phrase off but that's the progress i know folks
00:06:17.120ask on it um phrasehoff we're looking at either you know very far west pennsylvania or more likely
00:06:27.600in the state of ohio and that's going to be our our next uh next venture once new york's
00:06:34.400Hoff's all the way paid off. Sigerheim is doing awesome. We just got a structure placed out there
00:06:43.100that our Pioneer member who's out there right now is going to live in temporarily while something,
00:06:50.000you know, a little bit bigger gets built. But we have a structure there now. We've paved in,
00:06:56.200I say paved in, we've graveled in a roadway to the structure and set a gravel pad on it.
00:07:03.600it now has a mailing address for mail to get delivered services are being set up there so
00:07:09.940we're moving right along with Sigurheim which you know is a project near and dear to my heart that
00:07:15.280I'm gonna it's very much my plan that I'm gonna move out there in relatively soon amount of time
00:07:22.020working on working on getting that figured out so that's going really well
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00:08:13.260we start hitting the other questions i think that's what we got other than reminding you guys
00:08:21.340that coming up the end of this month we're going to celebrate the third annual elsie fest
00:08:27.420celebrating the folk mother lc christensen that's going to be in wisconsin i'll be going out to that
00:08:33.900i'm looking forward to it it's always a really nice event they've got a wisconsin fish boil
00:08:39.980there that i always look forward to because it's delicious um yeah so i hope to see everybody there
00:08:45.500if you're a member you should be there if you're not a member you should still be there but you
00:08:50.540need to reach out to uh your local folk builder and they can get you all set up and vouched for
00:08:56.620and figured out but i'd love to see you guys there um i think that's going to roll us right in witness
00:09:04.460fawn can you so for everybody out there taking notes or whatever spawn could you list the pieces
00:09:15.900of the soul complex and start with one and tell us about it and i think we'll try to do these one at
00:09:24.220a time. Okay, yeah. I mean, do you want me to go through them all and then we'll start at the one
00:09:30.540or just Yeah, if you could create the list for folks, so people taking notes can write it down
00:09:35.180or so people can conceptualize it in their head. And then we'll then we'll start it. Start at the
00:09:41.740first one you list. Okay, well, I had a little bit of a I'm looking over the comments and they're
00:09:49.500killing me over here with this the uh ai generated smile i got all my fingers that's that's how you
00:09:55.500know it's not ai um but i i did create a uh just a little image i know this is pretty i wish we i
00:10:04.780could get nick to flash it up there but so oh here we go oh that's not working at all is it
00:10:15.660i have a blur on because uh the background all right we'll get to that filter on
00:10:22.780no no the the back filter actually uh my wife might actually have to leave in the middle of
00:10:28.460this so i that's why we put it up um that's you're gonna hurt somebody's eyes i know i know they're
00:10:35.580gonna be glasses on glasses off um it's strange because sometimes the frame is perfectly clear
00:10:42.940and others like half of it is blurred and the other is crystal clear i don't know
00:10:47.980don't know what's yeah and actually leading up to this uh when i was testing it perfectly clear
00:10:54.460high definition then we moved into like the back room and or the you know the back room of the uh
00:11:01.020for the show and it looked good and then it just turned back into this so uh kind of defeated on
00:11:07.260that one just need to get a new one um so one of the things that uh we'll get to the image later
00:11:16.140because it's it's actually important i think that we cover some of that but the first is uh there's
00:11:24.300nine parts of the soul and there is a there's a 10th element um and so that that that 10th element
00:11:33.580element is hinging upon some functions of the other parts of the soul and we'll get to the
00:11:40.32010th element uh as we go but the uh the leak the leak is similar to the german word uh like
00:11:49.200leech or leech the uh the it's the body the physical body um and it's spelled l-i-k
00:11:57.900the dash over the i which makes it a long e sound uh there's the ek ek is the
00:12:05.740ego the self and uh justification of existence um or determination of that justification of
00:12:16.320existence uh next is huer huer is h-u-g-r i know it looks like it's spelled hugger but it's
00:12:26.900hue would and that is your your mind your your thought your processes the things that you take
00:12:36.340in and the stimuli that drives you forward and it's much more than that and we'll go into each
00:12:42.580one but um after that is the mini mini is is memory m-i-n-n-i mini is the memory and so this
00:12:56.100is this is a bifurcation of the functionings of the mind um but they are kind of seen as together
00:13:03.460um next we have is the on the ond is very special it's the divine breath it's o-n-d
00:13:12.660uh there's two dots above the o and so it has the kind of the au sound like in the word caught so
00:13:19.700it's on um from the aunt we have the um hammer h-a-m-r hammer um hammer is the projected self or
00:13:37.540i would say even the the power of the self uh and this is a very that's a very broad definition we'll
00:13:43.140get into each of these but um the hammer is is the extension of the might of the soul
00:13:51.220and might is a very important word for that and then we have the saul s a l the a has a dash over
00:13:58.900it so that's an owl sound saul it's the soul um and the soul is uh the containment of of
00:14:06.180much of this complex. Then we have the ha-ming-ja. It's H-A-M-I-N-G-J-A. So ha-ming-ja. The J is a Y sound,
00:14:22.620So it's not ha-ming-ja. That sounds like an odd word. Ha-ming-ja. And then lastly, we have the fil-ja. The fil-ja is F-Y-L-G-J-A. Fil-ja.
00:14:42.620and uh it would be worth to note putting off to the side next to the hammer and the sound
00:14:50.260would be something called older so off to the side uh the o with the dash over it th or the f
00:15:01.240which looks like a d with a line through the top almost like a combination between a d and a t
00:15:06.160and are older. And we'll get to that in relation to the other components that really, really
00:15:13.920ignite that. So starting off, I mean, first and foremost, I was there for one sec. I acknowledge
00:15:24.200a couple of things over in the side. Ronald Blake got it right this time. Apologize for last week.
00:15:31.180that's on me uh just donated a hundred dollars to newerts off to make that happen uh this man is
00:15:38.300doing his part and a whole lot of other people's parts too thank you so much for your generosity
00:15:44.300you're on here every week donating and making stuff happen this is how we get stuff done
00:15:50.140and we appreciate it um and then another comment europa the last battle says
00:15:57.740nah i prefer old school alive spawn ai is bad news i'm saying i think you should give this
00:16:06.380show a shot robo's fun may be cooler than regular spawn you don't know
00:16:16.460your robo was having me laugh as we were coming into the intro
00:16:19.660so um uh wrought again forty dollars to new words off thank you very much we appreciate it
00:16:30.460and says that they are signing up for membership tomorrow that's awesome and i look forward to your
00:16:34.940application uh yeah no i just saw those things over on the side and i wanted to go ahead and hit
00:16:39.580those if you would let's start with piece one of the soul complex
00:16:45.660yeah the leak i mean i think that's or before we even step into that one of the things that's
00:16:54.460duly noted i think for people that are coming into ausitru is why is there multiple parts or
00:17:00.700or things of that nature and that might be a confusing concept in and of itself but
00:17:05.740these even though we're using the norse words i also made mention that of connections to them in
00:17:11.980uh like in german uh these components are listed as you said you know that these are
00:17:18.860spanning in the language and upon reviewing concepts of the teutonic arian soul
00:17:27.820we have seen these words um indicating components and things of the of the self and so this is a
00:17:36.060compiling of them and and and i there's no right like a lore where it says that this is a this is
00:17:45.660a condensation or a con yeah or i guess a a formulation of the list so pause for a sec
00:17:54.700because i'd like to say there is lore that says that that lord just happens to come from the 1980s
00:18:01.020um and that's that's something important none of us here are trying to suggest to you that any
00:18:09.900viking dude somewhere wrote this down as these are the exact pieces of of the soul this is
00:18:17.640compiled knowledge of our source lore and all of the lore going up to modern times
00:18:25.180about the components that make up the soul of our folk and what's really important
00:18:31.960people can squabble over minutia of what each piece might be called or whether there's some
00:18:40.100overlap between pieces and you think one part goes here you think one part goes there
00:18:44.500there's room for that but the importance here is what we are communicating tonight is truth
00:18:52.020and we're communicating it in the best way that has come to the greatest of our minds
00:18:57.600of how to compartmentalize those truths into these component parts all of these component
00:19:04.580parts do go into our soul that's truthful how that that's all shaped our names for identification
00:19:12.680of the soul part are our parts is much like the runes the carved sticks the like straight lines
00:19:21.720on rocks aren't the runes they're representations of the runes the rune is the mystery it embodies
00:19:29.800and you know just because somebody's drawing it with a certain set of straight lines
00:19:35.560right that line symbolizes this so the soul that we are putting out there symbolizes the truth of
00:19:42.120our soul as we grow in advance as our faith develops perhaps we can break it down even
00:19:49.000further into components of each of these parts this is true up to this point it may be refined
00:19:56.520and more true down the line but what we are delivering tonight is truth in the best way that
00:20:02.840we know it yeah the uh i mean that encapsulates the the motivation of why we are are mapping this
00:20:15.080out and it's also you know incumbent upon us as gothar to explain these things because they do
00:20:23.480have living and even you know post-mortem effects of of of this we see this as uh all encompassing
00:20:34.840part between the living and passing on but let's let's focus on the soul mapping um when we talk
00:20:42.440about the leak we're talking about the body and the body and in its importance um of of what it
00:20:48.920is to the soul it's the vehicle it is um the physical uh implementation of will through um
00:20:57.400you know usage of our hands and our mouths um i think it's it's also the focusing power of on
00:21:05.640um the the another component that we'll discuss later and again it will have to jump around a
00:21:11.560a little bit because they're all so intimately connected but the on um the divine breath that
00:21:17.680we receive from olden passed through all of us is one of the major components to it is our ability
00:21:27.680to manifest ourselves in an unknown so we know of the past and we know of our present but to
00:21:35.120manifest ourselves by saying we will run or we will go the first part of that is about speaking
00:21:42.560that power and and and along with actually physically moving a lot of these components
00:21:49.900are hinging on the body the body uh you know component is important i think even from cultural
00:21:58.800standpoints in the afa i mean we have you know a physical excellence uh group where we focus on
00:22:06.720you know honing the body strengthening the body or or you know bettering the health of the body
00:22:14.480um always striving to build better about ourselves no matter what point of time in our life no matter
00:22:21.280our age um and to achieve goals or make goals and then achieve them and so that honing that shaping
00:22:28.640of the body i think is extremely important so on a on a on the physical level this is where we
00:22:35.040we receive the you know the the blooming the shape our our our distinction what makes us folk
00:22:43.360what our identity um and our connective identity to each other starts in the leak
00:22:51.280and so it's extremely important um and we see this as the the the body is a unit of the soul
00:23:02.800that has worth value and should be shaped maintained and upkept and or accelerated into
00:23:12.640its the the form of its its uh its purpose if you are you find yourself in your line of work
00:23:20.240and um you are you know unfit you're unfit to carry people you're unfit to move things you're
00:23:27.760on then then then it greatly establishes what you're capable of doing in the world
00:23:33.520or what what your oorlog and your your weird what you're able to weave in the world is directly
00:23:39.920associated with your body so taking care of your body is important there's within reason of course
00:23:47.200Obviously, we know that some folks do take to abstaining from things or living in rigorous physical conditioning and all of this, which is good, but it's about where you are in the world, in your life.
00:24:06.860Again, fashioning yourself to be an implement of weird and your soul is important.
00:39:32.980And if you have a deficiency in the wholeness of your body or even to and we'll get to that about when we talk about thought and memory, the wholeness of the mind, the idea that one of the driving points of the ego is to not tolerate but to continue to impress upon oneself to improve at all times.
00:39:56.320because that's the that's i think the structuring power that will keep a lot of the onslaught
00:40:02.640against the ego um is is not focusing on the negative obviously that that destroys the ego
00:40:08.920it's when you are intolerant of the that which is acceptable and always thinking about the positive
00:40:17.500and always thinking about moving forward moving upward being better that helps you pull through
00:40:25.040the onslaught of a lot of you know the depressive factors and degenerative factors that are always
00:40:30.640kind of flowing at it um yeah so we've got the leak we've got the eck what is part three okay so
00:40:42.320the part three is part three and four are intimately connected but going with the
00:40:48.160the first is huir huir is thought uh it translates to to the thinking or the thought um uh this is i
00:40:57.280would say the forward-facing mind it is the the mind that receives stimuli it is the mind that
00:41:05.040interacts with um perception the way that we perceive things and this too can affect the ek
00:41:14.080um it's much akin to uh experiencing uh stimuli whether it's from from someone talking or or from
00:41:23.760someone uh writing something that really just strives and hits home um it's it's the i i think
00:41:32.240it's the first part of the receptive sense of other people's older and we'll get into that
00:41:37.760later um but it is it is most importantly the receptive seeing mind and how you calculate and
00:41:47.120how you you uh process that information and what use you have for it or what you can oftentimes
00:41:54.400you know try to discard and it's it's your intellect and your wisdom uh but it is the
00:42:01.920i would say the experience wisdom the ability to apply it to your thinking into your acting
00:42:08.320um and that oftentimes gets confused with the deeper wisdom of memory which is the next
00:42:13.360component but the uh the huir is uh yeah it could be based on your your intelligence it could be
00:42:22.000based on the processes in which you hone your mind to think to uh ponder and to receive information
00:42:28.640and also funnel that information and apply it elsewhere.
00:42:37.700So everything that Svon just said, but with the added effect of, you know, there are
00:42:43.520multiple, this is one of, and there's many components that have this.
00:42:49.820This is one of those that has sacred and mundane aspects. It's also your busy mind that thinks of,
00:42:57.840you know what groceries you need to get and stuff you got to do for work and deadlines and
00:43:04.320you know what's on tv and you know what are you what are you eating for dinner and calculating
00:43:10.000your macros and all the different things that your mind needs to multitask and do in our corporeal
00:43:18.000existence here in midgard it also has higher things like tactics or you know contemplating
00:43:26.880spirituality or doing things like we're doing right now um but these these are different you
00:43:32.960know these are all things that go on there and we'll talk more about that a little bit later
00:43:39.920but there's a lot of different processes going on there yeah and if we if we look at the body as
00:43:47.280the forefront and in the center is the ek and then to the to the side of the ek is is the thought and
00:43:54.480the memory and we can see kind of the encapsulation of the the the vehicle part of the soul working
00:44:02.720all in tandem and uh in order for you know as people taking if people are taking notes on this
00:44:08.720is that the those upper components of the list work very intimately together in the physical
00:44:17.760sense in the physical world the material the middle world um and those applications are
00:44:23.680important um when we you can't separate the huer from the mini the mini is the memory
00:44:35.040uh but this is where it suddenly becomes um selectively active at this point because uh
00:44:44.960you know unless you're resting your brain with good sleep and uh you know achieving mental states
00:44:50.640that are that are good um both your your thought and your memory are affected and your body and
00:44:57.920and then hence your ego in the center um your mini is the collective intellectual machinations that
00:45:07.120you have accumulated as you interact with the world and compartmentalizing them and placing
00:45:13.440them down and they are uh actively engaged and sometimes inactively engaged during you know
00:45:22.560certain activities or certain uh situations that you might find yourself in so the the mini has
00:45:31.600is kind of the gateway to the rest of the list as a lot of your other soul components can sometimes
00:45:41.040enter through into the physical by coming out of your memory then we talk about memory in a sense
00:45:50.800not so much just only in the way that we do remember things but it's also there's a soul
00:45:55.600memory there's a blood memory there's a memory of of your lineage there's a memory of many
00:46:02.000different factors and um the memory component has often been a very controversial or at least it was
00:46:10.560a long time ago one of the most controversial components of of uh our of our church of of the
00:46:19.360of focus also true when we talk about uh the metagenetics we're talking about the gateway
00:46:24.720between the cognitive mind and the like subconscious mind and how that applies in the body
00:46:32.560and how it affects things um our memory can be activated based on the the things we bring
00:46:39.920to the table but there are things on the other side of the table that are already set there for
00:46:44.160us and it is important that we acknowledge them uh introspectively try to engage them um and even
00:46:53.600even pull them out and uh ruminate on them and work on them um and see how they affect things so
00:47:04.000the mini is both conscious memory and subconscious memory even to the point of
00:47:11.920soul memory i always view it as kind of the the um if the body and the ego and and thought
00:47:20.640are the are the uh projected um space that we encapsulate as we move in and create weird it
00:47:31.360is mini that is like the doorway that leads into the further and more complex parts of the soul
00:47:38.400um it's it's a common thing as if if you learn how to play a musical instrument and you're trained
00:47:45.840intellectually to read music but when all of that is encapsulated together there's this transcendent
00:47:52.960moment where your memory uh starts to press forward into the physical and even to the point
00:48:01.520where you are becoming like a gateway of the other soul components through that medium of playing
00:48:09.440music or you know the recitation of poetry or or um even just the activation of of this could happen
00:48:16.720in a physical sense um when you're running or something for a very long period of time
00:48:22.320and you're thinking about all the things you learned and all the techniques and how you make
00:48:25.520your stride and and all the components that that make you successful and then suddenly there's this
00:48:31.600rush of something that comes from beyond from almost like behind you and comes
00:48:39.440saturates forward into the physical it it the gateway is your memory
00:48:44.240um yeah there's stuff i'd like to add on this i'm also you know keeping track of the side comments
00:48:55.280and i don't see this question in our queue of questions so i want to address it now not as
00:49:02.720answering the question per se because i'm still going to answer you guys who donated first but
00:49:07.600But just as a clip point of clarification, this is the structure of the soul proposed by Thomas Carlson.
00:49:16.600It's a very good one and historically accurate.
00:49:20.600Yes, but Thomas Carlson learned this from Dr. Flowers.
00:49:56.980and I'll I'll put this out there and I think I've said this a few times but it's been really
00:50:04.740instructive to me so my mom suffered uh she just passed away uh last month and she suffered from
00:50:14.320And vascular dementia. And it was really informative because I got to see pieces of the soul complex break away from one another. And that's one of the ravages of that disease. But it's also very, very instructive.
00:50:34.640And the memory, those memories that you possess, the memories that you inherit from your folk, those things you know from the past are such a huge part of who you are.
00:50:48.960And I watched, and her hewer maintained longer than her many, and watching her memory get stripped from her dissolved so much of that core of who she is, of who people, because if you think about it, the way we relate to one another is our history.
00:51:18.960the way Svahn and I relate is because he's a very dear friend of mine, and I've known him for many
00:51:26.360years. And so we have a relationship. We have a rapport. We understand how each other thinks.
00:51:33.380It's not just a guy I'm on here talking to for the first time today. It's built upon all that
00:51:39.120I know about Svahn from those interactions. Same with our regular listeners. You guys have heard me.
00:51:45.480you guys have heard Svan and so you guys are coming into this with a set of understanding
00:51:50.800that adds context to everything but it adds a deeper perspective on who the other guy on this
00:51:58.220you know the guy on the other side of the screen or on the other side of the earbuds or whatever
00:52:01.560you're consuming this on is that foundation those roots of who you are are extremely important
00:52:13.000and they're important as a people too when we know our historical roots or our ancestral roots
00:52:18.120when someone comes from a family with deep family traditions of family roots they're poised so much
00:52:23.960better for life than someone who's say someone who's adopted someone who doesn't know where
00:52:29.400their family's from they've got to rebuild a lot of that and they're not permanently without you
00:52:36.040know any value in it but they're at such a disadvantage not having that memory with them
00:52:41.640not being infused with that as they grew up knowing who they are and where they come from
00:52:47.800we've seen this culturally during conquests where groups of people strip
00:52:56.680the memory from a group of people that they conquer they oppress and then that person is
00:53:03.080rootless they're much easier to to dominate they're much easier to keep beat down and so it's
00:53:11.560very important that we guard against that and that we cherish who we are where we're from
00:53:17.320what our ancestors did those things that brought us to where that to where we are and learn those
00:53:22.200lessons all of that is seemingly common sense but it's nice here to know that it's such an intricate
00:53:29.800part of our soul complex so we've got leak eck huger and mini what is part number five
00:53:44.200part number five is the ond and this again is another one that's that is uh especially i think
00:53:49.720for people that are new or people that are trying to understand this is another hard one this is
00:53:55.960the divine breath this is we we call odin lord odin is the god of our consciousness and we say
00:54:07.080that and what we're talking about is the individual sure the collective yes the folk as an
00:54:12.840entirety yes um there is the the the the spark that starts this and much of all of the interactions
00:54:24.840of the components that we've discussed thus far are implementations of that spark. They are
00:54:34.360the connection point that Odin has to see us and witness us through our actions, through our deeds,
00:54:42.940through our speech. And it is, you know, it is a tethering point and is one of the most important
00:54:53.300parts of i think our um descendancy um from him is in this component the on the breath so when we
00:55:05.380talk about uh odin and villi and vei three the three the tripartite of odin himself the dynamicism
00:55:16.180of him in his shaping of humanity shaping of the man shaping of the of ask and embla um there is
00:55:25.300all of these components play out thus far and it starts on the bedrock of aunt that spark so that
00:55:33.460the shaping of the body the functioning of the mind the manifestation of the will all are powered by
00:55:40.740the aunt. In a lot of ways, I'm lost in thought on it because I'm trying to think of the best
00:56:00.700way to communicate something that's very profound, but I don't know the right words that's going
00:56:07.100make you know it's going to translate to you the feeling of it but
00:56:16.860that divine spark that breath of life and of inspiration is
00:56:26.700that important x factor that science can't obtain we understand biology we understand a lot of
00:56:34.140things but what makes something conscious or not what animates a living entity or not
00:56:45.180we don't know we can't i mean we know and we're talking about it now but we can't quantify we
00:56:52.220can't reproduce we can come up with all kind of chemical cocktails but what makes life ascension
00:57:01.420What makes life conscious, what makes us us is that divine spark, that breath of inspiration, that breath of life, that thing that makes us not animal, but Aryan man.
00:57:17.800That piece that makes us us and not others.
00:57:23.900Sorry, my daughter felt the need to come in here and howl.
00:58:09.220And it's that special anointing of us inheriting from our gods that little piece of divinity that lives within us.
00:58:22.480And it's so important to our soul complex.
00:58:24.820yeah the the um the shaping of of the of the wood and it's mentioned of being that the wood is is
00:58:34.820like driftwood it's it's rootless it's unfated and it is uh made of that which is of the material of
00:58:44.180around it but it is shaped and made different it is animated is given that life it is um again the
00:58:51.060breath the breath and the spark are are oftentimes you know so interchangeably used but yes that that
00:58:58.340that transference of animation to the components of things this this happens so much in our faith
00:59:05.540when we talk about the very same tripartite when we talk about oldenvillian vey and the slaughtering
00:59:12.420of emir and the reshaping from the ex from existing matter or existing metaphysical matter
00:59:21.140and energy being transferred changed and ordered and shaped the soul complex and what we're
00:59:27.860covering is that ordering that the the gods of order the god of order odin that is formulated
00:59:37.220in order to shape and and create the vessel and that's i think also hugely important when we talk
00:59:45.080about ascension and you know we most likely will cover this later in in uh i know i keep skirting
00:59:51.060it about um afterlife and things like that and i want to focus on soul but um the uh the when
01:00:00.020people use the word like psychopomp in relation to odin talking about that that connection point
01:00:07.300is the on the the the the part of odin's ability to um enact ascension to choose as he is called
01:00:17.780the choosing father father and he has the ability to choose that manifestation that connection to it
01:00:25.300and what we do and how it is it is all played out is deeply felt by him through on and so that
01:00:34.260is the activation of the soul uh the gods in relation to humanity are looking at us in our
01:00:42.420deeds looking for the might that grows within our soul that all of the components functioning the
01:00:49.220higher the higher uh rate of which we all of these components work together is what draws
01:00:58.420the gods to bring us up into heaven to help fight against those the the the antithesis forces and
01:01:07.700so a lot of the components of the soul and how they work um you know that is a huge part of our
01:01:14.340of our framing of of religiosity is is that the gods are watching our souls formulate and the
01:01:21.300might of our souls is what will be used to help defend and to maintain order and and and that
01:01:29.060first connection the the reason why it's even able to be seen is by the gift that owen placed within
01:01:36.820us that that is what the gods can see when they look upon us and it said meet out or measure out
01:01:45.620our doom is measure out our fate or our the culmination of our actions based on the honing
01:01:52.740of our souls and it starts with the anchoring point which is on that deed that he created with
01:02:00.180his weird is what makes that attachment tangible and and everlasting all right so we have leak
01:02:14.020eck huger mini owned what is part six now this is called the hammer now the hammer is
01:02:28.740one of those components that i think has been given uh kind of more of a rudimentary
01:02:36.180or just plain able to consume conceptualization and the first one that always pops into my mind
01:02:43.860is the presence of the self uh in the physical body but in a spiritual sense in in a metaphysical
01:02:51.620sense um in that regards it would be i i've i've uh heard some people liken it to that when you
01:02:59.620you have a limb removed and you still feel the limb um that that is where your your hammer or
01:03:09.300your shape is still existent even though the physical part of your body is gone and so in
01:03:17.860many ways people have argued that is it a projection of the way we see
01:03:21.540ourselves if we are whole and then suddenly we are unwhole um is it just perception or does it
01:03:29.780actually exist and that's the problem with that that um example is because the hammer is
01:03:36.500that's the base sense of it the other sense of it is is the way that we can uh if we get all
01:03:43.940of the components before it in alignment understood honed and practiced disciplined
01:03:51.060the hammer can cease to be just an an aura or an effect of the body or a perception of the body
01:03:58.500and can actually extend out into the unseen world around us um and in that regards i would say
01:04:06.820a a simple effect would be if somebody was to change the environment in a room
01:04:18.420uh the way that they their hammer their and i often use the word might in this
01:04:26.180example is that the soul might at its base level is the shape of the body but it extends out and
01:04:33.860it has an effect on things it can physically affect people it can it can mentally affect
01:04:40.660people it can um bolster up it can it can uh you know cause uh
01:04:50.500motion effect or stabilizing effect it can also draw in and so i think this one gets confused a
01:04:56.420lot with when when people say it's the aura and i i try to avoid that in only in the context that
01:05:03.860it's in relation to like a modern and uh kind of new age developmental talk or jargon um
01:05:13.780the the the aura of a person doesn't quite activate that either still kind of keeps it in a
01:05:21.940containment our view of hamlet is always that when you add the soul components up understanding the
01:05:31.540divine breath and spark and build that connection, replenish it, the hammer starts to grow. The
01:05:38.540hammer changes. It can be changed. It can take on an essence around the person that they have
01:05:48.380have an ability to project in the world around them.
01:06:01.140So there's a little bit of overlap between, in my mind, between this and between part
01:06:14.88010. But the hammer can be perceived. We can see the leak. We can, okay, I shouldn't say see.
01:06:31.840We can perceive the leak by our five senses. You can hear it. You can see it. You can poke it.
01:06:41.400you can smell it, you can lick it, you can, you know, it's a thing. But that sixth sense,
01:06:50.340those extra senses perceive the hammer. I feel bad that lefties have
01:07:00.780soiled a lot of things to where we're embarrassed to say it, because this really is where auras
01:07:07.680come into play when you have someone who sees with second sight who has that extra perception
01:07:15.600they can perceive this projection of self i think very often this is
01:07:23.760the visual element of those that encounter a visual element in ghost encounters
01:07:30.640um this is one of those things that people with with second sight see when they see a person
01:07:39.700they see this projection of that person this is something that the magus can send out to do his
01:07:50.160will um but this is that projection of self outside of the leak and there's overlap and
01:08:04.400i'll i'll get to that when we get to the the 10th kind of piece here
01:08:12.240but yeah this is this is that i think it's really interesting the points fawn raises about the
01:08:16.800you know the phantom limb um because i do think that's a really
01:08:24.000very few of us have that experience but that's a very real it's a tangible way of of expressing
01:08:30.400this um but yeah we also talked about if your leak is busted if you're blind sometimes blind
01:08:40.160people have trained their perception to where they perceive hammer they they can perceive that that
01:08:49.840non-corporeal projection of self and so whereas you have a physical projection of self which is
01:08:57.360your body which is your leak your ethereal projection of self is that hammer yeah and
01:09:07.040And when you when you said to oftentimes you talked about how the perceptive mind, the mind or the the the ability for a person to sense that, to see that it's it's amazing if someone is whole and can do that.
01:09:26.680But what we have noticed is that sometimes when people are at a detriment in their body or sometimes in their mind, they can perceive the hamer.
01:09:37.460So oftentimes I think the other components end up covering for that loss.
01:09:42.160And when they do so, they activate an extra sensitivity even to the hamer.
01:09:48.480um like you said when when someone is blind but yet can still feel a presence um innately within
01:09:56.600them or if if a uh a person is um requires so much of their thought in the way that they perceive
01:10:04.560things with their sight they can see it uh even if they were say deaf or um just unable to physically
01:10:13.080move but yet still feel that that that presence oftentimes this would be like the case as if
01:10:20.460someone was comatose or in a deep uh torpor slumber and uh but yet the presence of the
01:10:28.340person near them is still felt because the hammer and the other uh the hammer affects the unseen
01:10:35.700uh senses or or the other senses are activated so highly that they they can perceive this
01:10:42.420um you also mentioned about um if somebody was to utilize their their might in order to project it
01:10:50.400out um so the two combinations of what you had said about the reflection of the hammer in a in
01:10:56.100a space and the projection willfully are kind of one in the same two oftentimes we notice that the
01:11:03.640hammer is is witnessed by the living um in an area where someone may have long since passed
01:11:11.280That projection usually happens in, I would say, less than, in not good situations, oftentimes the hamer is activated or explodes out because of trauma or because of an event or even just, I would say, like psychological trauma on the mind, on the thought.
01:11:39.440um the hammer begins to react it can even even react against stimuli without you even being
01:11:47.140aware of it and it imprints itself on the physical world around it and that is oftentimes like if you
01:11:55.500uh you know seeing like uh in virginia the a lot of the battlefield ghosts going through um
01:12:02.620there's one in particular near a tree that has been witnessed by multiple people but it's
01:12:07.520continuing to do the same thing it's movement uh it looks like a young soldier crawling on the
01:12:14.960ground and then standing up next to a tree and then it dissipates and this seems to repeat over
01:12:21.440and over and over again and that is that imprint it's not that your hammer entirely stays here but
01:12:27.900that its projection is so grand the might is so strong that it influxes itself upon the physical
01:12:35.800world and we know that the physical world works in vibrations even in things that we cannot see
01:12:41.820and it can manifest itself even into the the realm of perceptive and light that our our eyes can see
01:12:49.960it all right so something on that and this is related this may seem out there but i i think
01:12:58.820that it's worth putting in there. There are moments that you are so overcome by the moment
01:13:11.060that all these things, for a brief instant, fire together and are amplified beyond what they would
01:13:21.100normally be. We see that with with ghosts, if someone experiences an extreme trauma or dies in
01:13:30.660a very traumatic way. At that moment, it's so powerful that their hammer transcends time and
01:13:40.540space for that. You see that with the leak when you have the, you know, the woman that all of
01:13:49.760sudden can deadlift a car because it's pinning her child she could never replicate that in the
01:13:56.300gym or in a competition or in anything else but it hit and all those pieces work together for that
01:14:06.160moment and transcended and and you see that with different parts of this complex and I think that
01:14:14.120spawns example of the battlefield ghosts are are one of those instances where it transcends the
01:14:22.840soul complex and is something truly magnificent so we've got the leak the f the huer the mini
01:14:36.520the owned and the hammer yeah the hammer as it extends out what is part seven
01:14:46.920and i promise you guys we will get to your questions i knew this was going to be a long
01:14:52.620one so please do bear with us so this the soul it is the word it's the soul uh now the soul is
01:15:02.300at again at the base level it could be seen as the encapsulation of that which resides behind
01:15:10.720the memory those the like the and and the hammer the the the the soul could be seen as like the
01:15:18.740core of that spiritual complex it could also be seen as the container of it uh or the internal
01:15:25.640container of those those uh components beyond the memory but it is also important to know that it
01:15:34.840contains its own threshold connection so much like where the memory is the threshold connection to
01:15:41.560the spiritual components the soul is also a threshold to the spiritual components that
01:15:48.920that are behind it and in that space there we call it oftentimes we call it the shade the the
01:15:55.640the shaded self or the um the the presence of the self in uh parts unexplored it's not dark
01:16:07.400it's shaded because it is unknown or unseen or unexplored these these parts of the soul that
01:16:15.880that derive from so many components of our existence, including, again, the things that we receive from the gods, the blessings from the gods, the blessings at birth, they pass through the soul and affect everything before it and everything that's within it that is not directly, you know, your intellect or your physical body.
01:16:45.200It affects those things, but all of that really does pass through the sal, and it is the deepest part of the temple, if you will.
01:16:56.080So the soul is, I believe it's the Gil Fagening that talks a little bit about the soul being immortal.
01:17:08.040in that barring special circumstance the soul that the soul which is our word soul
01:17:20.040passes through death into into the beyond with whatever pieces get integrated into it or
01:17:30.360whatever pieces are broken off from it, that is the inherent units that passes on into something
01:17:39.900other. That is the units that is not destructible based upon normal mortality. Now, we can talk
01:17:51.680about the disintegration of that at a later time. That's something to think about in the questions.
01:17:57.020I know that the soul naturally leads to a conversation about death and the afterlife.
01:18:04.600And Svan's already tried to like pull back from going into it too deeply because only because we're going to do a whole episode on that the next time we speak with Svan.
01:18:14.700So two weeks from today, it's not verboten to talk about today, but we are going to focus on it more intensely here in two weeks.
01:18:27.020so when we talk about well it depends do you want to uh talk about the other now considering that
01:18:37.060these two components are so key in its placement i want to talk about it i want to talk about it
01:18:43.020last okay so for everyone here just remember place this on the side that the 10th component
01:18:49.720is deeply connected to the hammer and the south and it's connected to all of those parts but yes
01:18:56.460and the cell is like the hub so yeah and pause as a disclaimer apparently my wife felt need to
01:19:04.160mention this no my daughter is not screaming uh due to any kind of torture or parental malfeasance
01:19:10.380she is excited about her bath time toys uh another once again thank you to our law speaker
01:19:17.320alan turnage uh for her third birthday he gave her some cool bath toys that she's really excited
01:19:24.640about really i was unaware that you guys could hear it quite that loud
01:19:30.800um yeah where this where the sound would be much like the hub of a wheel and each of the components
01:19:37.840an intrinsic spoke and the the leak would be the outer rim of the wheel the the uh the the tread
01:19:46.480of the wheel itself that um moves through the world when we talk about these next two components
01:19:55.440it would be best to look at them like the axle uh of of said hub um and that is the next one is
01:20:04.880hamming yah hamming has got a lot of confusion i've seen i've seen people try to kind of
01:20:10.640of uh mash it together with other components and not seeing it as its its own component but
01:20:19.580I think that's a mistake Haminha is very important and it's based upon it's it's much like a reservoir
01:20:26.820or again connected to the cell it is the reservoir of luck and that luck can is two-way that reservoir
01:20:34.780can gain from all the components before it all of the deeds that you do the words that you say
01:20:41.420and everything that you commit to can increase your humming a perfect example of this would be
01:20:49.200to say taking an official oath and then going against that oath um or acting in contrary to
01:20:57.280the because oaths can you know they they can change i think if both parties are clearly
01:21:03.480assessing that things need to be, you know, renegotiated or the standards need to be met
01:21:10.500because the outside world has, you know, affected some things. The oath that stands and the oath
01:21:19.020that you have, if you go against that oath, it can directly affect your haminya. So whereas
01:21:26.020haminya is seen as kind of like your might and is seen as a projective force, the haminya is a
01:21:33.080receptive force when we talk about the physical world your luck is flowing there but it doesn't
01:21:39.280just stop at you it's actually something that is passed down to your children so i want to make a
01:21:45.640note in in the midst of this because i think that we're geared towards seeing negatives a lot and
01:21:54.060that helps us to to be better but it's important to point out so your hymenia suffers if you break
01:22:00.380an oath or if you don't live up to an oath but your hymenia is heightened and is enhanced if you
01:22:09.440follow through on it because it means in a serious situation in a time of testing you stood by your
01:22:16.460word and so it makes you mightier this is a really important thing to note um especially in terms of
01:22:24.320you know, the second very important ritual we do in Asa Chu is Sambal. It's why we are so careful
01:22:32.080of who we allow to speak oaths over the horn and any words that are spoken over the horn.
01:22:38.340When you commit to that, when we're all in a ritual, our individual hymenas are made better
01:22:44.720by people fulfilling oaths there. We're made mightier by that. But if somebody just spouts
01:22:50.480off an oath and they don't follow through then we all take a hit in harmonia so i i just wanted
01:22:57.040to interject that i saw a side comment that somebody said luck slash honor and i hadn't
01:23:03.280heard it quite in that context but absolutely certainly honor in the way that we use it today
01:23:10.240your personal integrity of of you being a person of of integrity or not but also in the more
01:23:18.560archaic sense of the value your community places on you your hymenia is a collection of the value
01:23:27.600that's placed on you by your existence and by your character sorry i didn't want to interrupt
01:23:34.800but i thought it was very relevant at the time no absolutely and that's and that's the reason
01:23:39.520why i chose the oath as an example because a lot of people get into uh the idea perhaps it's a more
01:23:46.240modern ideas like um if i do good good will come to me it's it's more about doing right
01:23:55.520and that has that that honor aspect that integrity aspect it's about doing what's right
01:24:00.880and how humming is yes it's about the activation of the correct order of things and and moving
01:24:08.400within that if it's it is a very powerful component because it can affect your hammer
01:24:16.720it can affect your ego uh and and then by and large you know affecting all the other parts
01:24:22.800but um it's also something that we see as something that's shareable it's something
01:24:28.240that's also connective when we talk about frid a lot of people place that as an idea of just just
01:24:35.040peace or, yeah, I guess peace or some people have even gone into the ideas of thinking about
01:24:42.540it as pacifism or nonviolence. No, haminya is the connecting factor between the vertical of
01:24:51.560the kin fence, the things that unite us together as individuals is our haminya. That's what
01:24:58.560maintains that frith and you gain strength if you build that frith with someone you share
01:25:05.880collectively with their hominia uh and it can expound in many different levels it's it's we
01:25:11.940could think of it uh from the individual to the family we could think of it as the individual to
01:25:16.880the tribe or individual to the the folk at large or the individual to the the church the community
01:25:24.060however uh we see it also too in connection to the divine or the interaction to the divine
01:25:31.580our hummingya is a boon that can be given to us if we unite and then maintain our own integrity
01:25:41.420and build upon that and it's such a an important part that we even we we have a special point of
01:25:49.800designation in which the Haminga is attached. And that is another thing that I think the reason why
01:25:55.460when people downplay Haminga or place it into other components to kind of mash things together,
01:26:00.920they really lose a lot of important things, including the cultural aspect. When we fasten
01:26:06.280a name to a child, that is the bottom line of the writ seal that they are now collectively
01:26:17.300interacting, sharing with, gaining from, and contributing to our Hemenya. And that is why
01:26:25.720you can't, you should never downplay it. There are connecting and concentric circles
01:26:33.140of Hemenya as well. Groups have a group Hemenya. One of the things I send out when I welcome
01:26:40.400people into the Astro Folk Assembly is their connection to the Hemenya of the Astro Folk
01:26:45.860assembly and they're tying in it's one of the reasons that being involved in the afa and
01:26:54.340our priesthood in general have an elevated importance is it's a hymenia that's been
01:27:01.940built over the decades um and it's a hymenia that
01:27:09.220ties in with the with the rebirth of our faith it's a hymenia that is fundamentally
01:27:15.220connected to the relationship between uh al-sharyagothi steven our founder and the all-father
01:27:23.940that connection is passed down through our priesthood and by extension to to our afa family
01:27:30.740as a whole so that's important to think of it as well certainly hyminga is luck but one thing
01:27:37.700that's really important to realize about it is it's it's a commodity you can spend it you can
01:27:44.820you can gift it to someone when you bestow a name upon a child you're extending a piece of
01:27:51.540that person's hymenia upon that child when you name an object you're imbuing it with hymenia
01:27:59.460when you when you when anything has a name or an identity it becomes it branches off and develops
01:28:06.580it's hymenia you can seed that with some of your hymenia or a group's hymenia but luck is a is a
01:28:15.380quantity that's why i don't anymore wish someone good luck unless i genuinely wish to bestow on
01:28:23.540them a piece of my humming so a friend or someone i care about or someone who i very much support
01:28:29.700in their in their struggle i will send some of my luck out to them but you know somebody i don't
01:28:38.100like like good luck no i'm not going to waste my luck on somebody that i don't like or don't
01:28:45.540support or isn't in alignment with isn't somebody that i want to spend a very real resource on
01:28:52.180it's not that it can't be regenerated and it generates more one of the mysteries of fehu is
01:28:56.980that spending of your resources to to spiral to gain more to become richer by circulating
01:29:05.220but it is something that you you break a piece off when you wish somebody good luck you break
01:29:09.860a piece off when you name a child or when you name a weapon or you you christen a ship um
01:29:19.620but yeah that's that's part of the the hymenia yeah we tie it all up in part 10 but before we
01:29:26.260get there swan could you tell us about part nine yes um well i also wanted to say too when when
01:29:36.180we talk about the old stories in which um a king gives rings or because you had mentioned uh feo
01:29:46.100the first rune hey when you mentioned the the first rune and we talk about that that uh liminal
01:29:54.100power that power uh oftentimes has been played out in in our stories and in our in the events
01:30:01.380in which say for instance if a king gives out his a ring to his men uh he is in essence not
01:30:10.180just bestowing upon them a shiny gift he's giving them a piece of his haminya that ring is binding
01:30:17.700that that fane or that that man or that uh that knight or whatever um word that we want to use
01:30:25.940for it is uniting him to the hamina and the fact that the king is placing it out there giving a
01:30:34.580piece of himself of his might of his of his works his deeds and and giving it to a a representative
01:30:45.700of him his his hamina is being placed on the line there and so you gain from that and oftentimes too
01:30:54.020there's an exchange uh uh like for instance there's the mark of the when the warriors gave their
01:31:01.380combs uh to the king in respect uh back showing that they too have given an well first off it's
01:31:11.300worth noting that combs in the elder times were extremely valuable items extremely hard to make
01:31:17.060and there was a lot of care taken into them and this kind of harkens back again to the lick and
01:31:22.180the discipline of of one's ego and physical body the the cleanliness and the representation of
01:31:30.340that but it's also about the fact that this intimate object that's extremely valuable that
01:31:35.620is used repeatedly building this this weird this orlog over and over and over again is given as a
01:31:43.620representation back that the the unification of both sides have been made and have been met and
01:31:51.220so this sense of haminya is discussed or at least presented in many of the stories um even when it
01:32:01.940comes down to say a hero being guided to go to uh his his bride's uh father that goes to his bride
01:32:12.820the bride's father's mound the the the mound in which he is uh buried in and in that mound he
01:32:20.660receives a sword and that sword is in in essence again gaining a haminya as well as the physical
01:32:28.900representation of what that sword means to implement his will so that is a very big
01:32:36.020part and again it's a commodity um the last and final part the ninth part is the is one that uh
01:32:43.300has a lot of mystery around it and again hamina and and this component get sometimes get jammed
01:32:48.820together and i don't think that's correct and um so we should expound on a little bit more but this
01:32:53.380one is called the philkia and the philkia is the follower that which follows um it is
01:33:05.700deeply connected it's not separate from the soul um but it it is uh very similar to the english word
01:33:14.020fetch and which you know something goes and and follows something to retrieve it um
01:33:20.100And that is part of why its mystery is debated about. The Filchia in our stories has a general sense has always been perceived as either a proto-self, often symbolic in the form of an animal.
01:33:42.360And this is important that we cover this. I think that a lot of new age ideals about like totems is something that we need to address before we can move on.
01:33:55.140One of the big things I think that a lot of people don't understand about some Native American cultures that have this concept of a teacher and that this symbol changes as you grow older, for us, this symbol is like a birth symbol, but it is not actually the animal.
01:34:14.200It is not – it isn't that animal. It takes that symbol to speak to your base mind what a lot of your overall, I guess, passed on and attained nature is.
01:34:40.520it's the the what we would oftentimes call the ur self the proto self um and again this this
01:34:49.660is very hard to conceptualize when we talk about the other components of the soul but the way i
01:34:56.820could like when we talk about it in stories it would often be referred to as say for instance
01:35:01.040two mighty people are conflicting with each other in an area and the folk remark on how they see
01:35:10.320something happening uh for instance if they see two bulls fighting but these bulls are not known
01:35:16.920to anyone they they're they're not owned by anyone but they're witnessed as these these two
01:35:23.540bulls are interacting they're fighting and so suddenly it becomes kind of like a a reflection
01:35:29.920of these two people's proto-selves the soul and it acts not independently but is capable of acting
01:35:42.000outside of the self because the proto-self is uh moving in its base sense so if you are your will
01:35:52.280your deeds your weird your your your integrity all of that is battling another mighty force
01:35:58.840oftentimes in the stories it was represented they would see what like would be almost like
01:36:03.640the physical manifestation of spiritual animals that are the symbols of those two souls um
01:36:13.160this gets confused a lot with i think like totemic um concepts or animism which is not really a part
01:36:23.720of our faith as it's understood that the philkia is a follower it connects to our soul and it thus
01:36:31.880takes symbology of its proto-self and then adds even more confusion because the the ur self can
01:36:40.760be elevated when we talk about the tenth component once the elevation of the soul enters into the
01:36:48.60010th component the philkia changes and it is elevated since it follows you and takes in the
01:36:57.160symbology of another effect and that is usually seen as the higher self the um the uh what is
01:37:04.440the anima versus um or the the the polaric force of the soul in your base nature it is seen as the
01:37:13.320elevated sense reflective and so if you ascend and your components become the 10th component
01:37:30.520this one is complex and it can be confusing somebody over on the side said it could be
01:37:35.480either animal human or a shape and that's exactly what dr flowers says i don't understand the shape
01:37:44.280thing um it's a thing don't get me wrong it's not a thing that i would see because i don't
01:37:53.000perceive in terms of shape um the idea of an animal but the other thing that this is often
01:38:01.480viewed as or seen as by those with second sight, those in dreams, those with perception that way
01:38:10.960is by an opposite gendered companion. By men, it would be a female often described as the Valkyrie.
01:38:22.080It would be, you know, your female counterpart. We don't see this in lore just because
01:38:30.060how lore is usually written but you know i would assume that for women perhaps this is
01:38:36.460this is some kind of a male counterpart and in our understanding a lot of this is that
01:38:44.780feminine or masculine side of the self that is separate and not integrated
01:38:52.060and i think that's a way of explaining a lot of things the subconscious
01:38:55.980the elements of yourself that are not fully integrated into your personality
01:39:01.980they're connected to you and your soul but they exist outside they're that follower
01:39:07.640they're that piece of you that's there that's in the back of your mind that's in the periphery
01:39:14.400that's doing things external to you the closer you come to self-realization to ascension
01:39:23.140to those things, the closer that gets to you. But this element of the self that is not integrated
01:39:32.260into your personality, but is your primal self, is that primal layer, often the primal nature of
01:39:40.200that is, I think, what is manifested in an animal form. I think that the part of it that's different
01:39:51.440from who you are in a waking state that's different that's differentiated between your
01:39:56.340conscious who you are and who you truly are who you know that layer of subconscious is
01:40:03.140I realize that I'm moving my hand over across the screen that nobody can see I just realized that
01:40:09.560but yeah that that shadow self not in a sense of bad but in a sense of those things that aren't
01:40:19.020fully integrated and aren't fully acknowledged, but that are very central to the core of who you
01:40:24.820are, that exists almost externally at the edge of being almost other. And that is there to advocate
01:40:36.280for you, to protect you, to look out for you, to advocate in a way that you can't with your,
01:40:44.000you know your very civilized self that you're trying to present that that other self out there
01:40:52.560with your other interests involved is is fighting for you and looking on for you in a way
01:40:57.840and the the closer integration of that gets more into what we're about to talk about on
01:41:05.360part 10 here part 10 also means that when we're done talking about part 10 i will finally get to
01:41:11.460of these questions because we've got some really good questions lining up i know and you're making
01:41:15.860sure like move forward move forward move forward no i've got to it's a very long concept and i
01:41:21.780think this is you know we're an hour and a half in and we haven't gotten to the first question yet
01:41:26.180right that's a that's a first and i hope you guys are enjoying it this is a really i think
01:41:31.620it's really important show and i think this information if we can internalize it and build
01:41:38.340on it is very important but i do know it's a lot of listening to me and swan talk and not necessarily
01:41:44.100get to some of the questions you guys are asking so i am aware of that so swan could you bring this
01:41:50.500all together into part 10 or uh the 10th phase or whatever we want to call it because it's not
01:42:00.820really a separate part right it's it's it's dependent on the soul being uh formulated
01:42:11.140disciplined focused uh trained uh that we see this you know when we when we talk about the
01:42:18.020harmony as a commodity and even the fetch as a commodity too because you can share uh or the
01:42:23.620philkia you can share that with a group as a nation sometimes an animal symbol that represents
01:42:30.980that that's another part but when we talk about the other the other is activated in particular
01:42:39.060as we we teach it that it is it is the culmination of the hammer and the soul achieving all of the
01:42:49.540components above them and below them become in alignment and when they do they can project
01:42:56.740forward in an elevated state the person reaches what we would call the woad self which is an
01:43:04.580english word woad um but in old norse it's older o-r-r their ubermitch yes the ecstatic self uh this
01:43:16.900concept that we have can witness and have seen and are trying to attain oftentimes through our
01:43:24.180disciplinary acts um are the achievement of the older the the best way to translate it would be
01:43:32.420um a fervorous inspiration uh it sometimes is confused with uh almost like fury in and of
01:43:41.540itself and it can manifest that way um sometimes it would be kind of to conceptualize i know many
01:43:48.020people might be very familiar with berserker or or are the earth here the not that the wolf headed
01:43:54.500warriors the idea of this transcendence into something of an ecstatic state that is furious
01:44:02.820that is certainly a part of it a way to conceptualize it but there is more to it
01:44:11.140than just that or or perhaps you could look at it as like uh placing different bits on the overall
01:44:18.260power of the soul sometimes it can function out through music through poetry uh sometimes it can
01:44:24.980it can function out through um um necessity and all of a sudden all of the parts align themselves
01:44:32.820in a moment and there's this again transcendent state that's very similar to like what you had
01:44:39.780mentioned before about the the mother suddenly physically lifting the car but also too it would
01:44:46.820also be people seeing that and rushing to jump in because the the other self is is a like a
01:44:55.460commodity in the sense that when you project it out there it draws people to you and it it brings
01:45:02.740your soul and all of those components almost like a frequency uh it can affect the the the souls
01:45:10.340around you it's this attainment when you have a hero lead a charge um you're right absolutely
01:45:22.100when you talk about those moments i mentioned earlier about when you become more than you are
01:45:27.220when that woman you know with her child all of a sudden she has the strength to lift this car
01:45:33.380because it's not her lifting it it is her woe self it is her in the ultimate
01:45:41.460so this is gonna date me but i'm gonna i'm gonna do it anyway because it entertains me to do so
01:45:46.580so y'all remember altered beast and you get these little orbs and you start out as the
01:45:52.340good shape dude and then you become the swole dude and then you become like the bear the wolf
01:45:58.100or the dragon and you become this super version of yourself in the ascension of the self when
01:46:05.700we talk about the hero you overcome limitations by functioning optimally in this soul complex
01:46:16.180by uniting and integrating that other that subconscious that primal version of yourself
01:46:26.920with your your under control astral self when you integrate all of those pieces functioning as well
01:46:35.840oiled unified machine as one piece you become your woad self you are the better version of yourself
01:46:45.660you are are the you that you should be you are the over man um and that's what we strive to get
01:46:54.540close to if you're really lucky and you're really awesome maybe you can have flashes of that maybe
01:47:01.660you can get close to that shoot hopefully we can all get to that but very few have but that ability
01:47:10.700to become that moment where everything works and you are one unified force of will when
01:47:21.900when the one guy picks up a sword and charges
01:47:27.500yet all the army around him has to as if they're compelled to charge
01:47:33.660and sometimes that happens and mysteriously this happened with george washington it also
01:47:39.980happened with general nathan bedford forest he got so many horses shot out from under him and
01:47:46.300holes in his you know holes in his uniform holes and stuff he was fine george washington i forget
01:47:52.780which engagement he was at holes in all through his stuff but he wasn't hit by a shot and he had
01:48:02.540that moment of like swan spoke about the old headnar or the berserker the imperviousness
01:48:10.860to to pain and to to injury because they're in that perfect frenzy
01:48:18.700and that's so much of the mystery of the all-father odin he is the master of inspiration
01:48:25.900he's the master of the woad that's literally what his name is is he is the master of this
01:48:36.140that we're talking about so that unity of self in the hero and the perfect version of you for
01:48:44.380that moment that's you at your fullest potential that's you literally being all you can be
01:48:50.980And we see that in moments. We see flashes of it. Sometimes, you know, if you're lucky, you'll get one flash of that in your lifetime. But cherish that if you do.
01:49:08.280This is something I wanted to get back to. And I spoke about the hammer this way as well. Sometimes people see that version of you.
01:49:20.980um they see your woe self and the idea is you know
01:49:27.580you'll see a veteran or you'll see a an old king or an old you know hero they're old and
01:49:37.200they're broken down and their mind's not functioning the way it used to and they're
01:49:42.620hunched over and you know hoary with age but you can see that they've been there
01:49:51.000they've seen what you haven't seen they've lived that woe self and it transcends you see that
01:49:58.920presence when you are overcome by someone's presence and i think we've all experienced
01:50:07.320this to one degree or another but the force that walks in that room isn't that hunched over veteran
01:50:16.440it is his woe self it is him at his prime and it it overtakes all around him you see that I mean
01:50:27.580we get the tiniest glimpse of that with celebrity or star power or other things
01:50:32.820but when you have someone who has achieved that woe self even for a moment they carry that with
01:50:42.020them for a lifetime and those with second sight those who are perceptive but even the rest of us
01:50:49.300notice there's something different about that guy and uh and you can feel that kind of presence
01:51:00.020and it's powerful and it's so hard for us to put mundane words too because it's whenever you want
01:51:08.340to describe a transcendent experience it's very hard with language because it it literally
01:51:14.980transcends language but we all feel it when certain person enters the room and you stand up straight
01:51:23.300and you either you make sure you're not looking away or you're so intimidated you can't look that
01:51:30.900person in the eye that's that load self being that's the power of that manifesting in your
01:51:37.780presence and that's what we seek to do and that's one of the keys towards ascension and that's
01:51:45.060something that's fun and i will talk about it two weeks from now specifically i wanted to bring up
01:51:51.860because there is confusion between the hammer and the and the woad self and one thing i would say is
01:51:58.100if the hammer projects into a room and affects people mentally physically emotionally
01:52:06.100other does that plus even seems to build gravity around weird or time or space itself
01:52:17.940Like you said, when the imperviousness of the moment, moving through a moment in which you would think that they wouldn't be able to do, and all of a sudden it seems that fate itself is conjoined with the perfection of the soul at that moment.
01:52:37.280and it has a an ability to contort the uh weird around or the the orlog around by pulling people
01:52:48.320in by affecting the things around it and it literal literal gravitas literal gravitas yes
01:52:56.840um one thing that i think is the challenge in all of our lives
01:53:06.220is closing the distance between who we are today and our woed self.
01:53:15.760Achieving that potential of who we should and could be and who we are now and getting ever closer.
01:53:25.140And the object is obviously to become that woed self.
01:53:29.000but every inch we get closer to it is progress and is a source of pride
01:53:38.780that's the struggle that we all face and i think that
01:53:46.340in christian circles i don't know if it's still a thing but way back when it was what would jesus
01:53:54.420do is closing the distance between you and jesus in our faith it's much more the idea of what would
01:54:05.780your idealized self be if you could write the saga of your life who would you be no wait you can write
01:54:18.820the saga of your life so be that that you would make yourself be the person you would will yourself
01:54:27.700to become be that and it's a million times harder to do than it is for me to say
01:54:37.540but in a way that is the purpose of life and existence
01:54:42.180become that person and that's the challenge before all of us
01:54:48.820Yeah, that attainment is so interesting because of the dichotomy. We don't separate ourselves. We don't try to separate ourselves from, but we try to elevate all to project forward into and out around us.
01:58:56.760infuses the individual when the individual is in tune with their ancestors so here's the thing
01:59:05.240modern american white kid that grows up in the hood that his parents don't teach him the schools
01:59:17.280don't teach him he knows there's more but he doesn't know how to access that
01:59:23.220when that same person is raised in a family that teaches him tradition
01:59:31.180in a faith that connects him to our gods and to his ancestors
01:59:36.420he's able to integrate that folk soul into his life because he's immersed in it the folk soul
01:59:45.860is the collective experience the collective history and the collective memory of our folk
01:59:51.420by ritual and by cultural immersion that manifests itself
01:59:59.480and it empowers that individual to do great things
02:00:04.140and to draw upon that very, very deep and beautiful well.
02:00:10.480That's how it interacts with the individual.
02:00:12.640How the individual interacts with the folk soul
02:00:15.080is that they live the biggest best life they can
02:00:23.980and part of that part of that memory part of those achievements part of that increased
02:00:33.980hymenia adds to that well of our collective folk soul for the next generation and it's
02:00:43.000it's directly increased by what that individual puts in it that was a good question tyler and i
02:00:49.400think it's something that a lot of people think about and then i believe again it's been so long
02:00:55.480that it's like screwed up the dollar amount believe for ten dollars thank you travis another folk
02:01:00.920builder of the afa travis bodish in colorado boys in colorado are doing great things
02:01:07.720that was a fairly stagnant region for us for a long time and now it's it's doing wonderful things
02:01:14.760love seeing that travis you and nick are doing a great job so he says hail the folk
02:01:20.040hail the gods hail the afa hail victory absolutely hail hail all right now to our first other
02:01:30.120regular questions this one comes from bode my good friend bode i hope he's still with us over
02:01:38.280in the chat i know it's been a couple hours uh all right can you explain how i think bode asked
02:01:44.520this honestly before we even started talking if i remember the side chat correctly uh can you explain
02:01:51.320how the soul sickness our folks suffer from affects the different parts of the soul
02:01:58.200there he is. He's over on the side chat. Good to have you here, Bodhi. Svon, what do you think
02:02:03.840about how our soul sickness creeps into those different pieces of our soul complex?
02:02:11.540I think we've kind of touched on it. You just touched on it a little bit too, about
02:02:15.200people that feel disconnected from their culture, people that feel disconnected from their families,
02:02:19.860or people that feel disconnected from an overall longing or yearning towards a truth
02:02:30.440that they know is within them and that nothing that's being laid out before them presents the
02:02:36.780key to attaining the confirmation of the truth that they feel inside, that they're contemplating
02:02:46.180it and they know it's there and that's the mystery i think that the gods don't uh see us as uh
02:02:57.620something that they just they they they toss at something to us to attain in essence the process
02:03:04.420of the soul again what we've been talking about this attainment of the possibility of what you
02:03:09.300you can be is integral to um the wellness and the wholeness of the soul and so any of those
02:03:18.540components can be affected in what we refer to as the soul sickness um it is an it is an ailment it
02:03:26.780is when there is parts of us that are unwhole and that cause that dis-ease within us um it can take
02:03:35.200to the physical form um when we you know are taught to consume you know terrible foods or or
02:03:45.520uh or that we you know imbibe in things over much and we physically deter ourselves um you know it
02:03:55.040it is said that you know even cows know when to go home from feeding it's nothing worse than when a
02:04:00.640man doesn't know his own limits so we have uh sometimes there's this consumptive nature that
02:04:07.520i think affects the the physical body um and of the mind or the e or say let's say the ego the ego
02:04:16.160that sickness oftentimes takes place in when a man or a woman doesn't understand their worth
02:04:22.640and so or their worth has been attacked by malicious people oftentimes it could be family
02:04:28.960members it could be friends or so-called friends uh colleagues and competition and um or people
02:04:36.080that you know uh just fundamentally disagree with you and they try to attack your your ego and and
02:04:41.920um so there there is this sense of not understanding your worth when you lose sight of your
02:04:47.440worth then those attacks have that they have an effect and so about understanding your worth if
02:04:55.840there is a soul sickness of the mind most certainly i would say it's in in the form of confusion or
02:05:02.640in the form of conditioning where we see something that innately goes against the moral constructs
02:05:09.120of our of our society or of our culture of our family or even just internally within ourselves
02:05:14.800and and we're conditioned to to hide that or to accept it or then that that starts that
02:05:21.600part of that soul sickness um uh in in memory when we lose contact of what we're uh you know
02:05:30.380of the way things were um recorded or written down or or kept separate from that's the other
02:05:37.360another so each of the components can have um a part of that the soul you know when it when it
02:05:44.060is taught to um you know seek complete and utter um you know observance or or um i would say like
02:05:56.540uh you know the the slavery of the self to um without ever considering it's a you must just
02:06:03.340drive the car until into the horizon until it dies and that's all you should be concerned with
02:06:09.980them as long as you do that you will be rewarded that is again part of the sickness of the soul
02:06:16.140the soul is something that we must cultivate it's it's a it's a garden it's um it's uh
02:06:21.660you know we have to tend to the wheels we have to tend to all of the parts of the car and it's not
02:06:27.500about just driving it you know being slave to the motion of it or the purpose of of it so
02:06:33.740when we don't get a chance to to internalize correctly and then externalize and implement
02:06:40.060our soul in the world uh we we start to get that sickness and um uh again our hammer is oftentimes
02:06:47.820reflective of that it's it's like the soul ego um again and uh when we do deeds that continually
02:06:57.420bring us into states where we're compromised by um our integrity or things of that nature
02:07:05.260and life is complex and so there's always kind of um a sense of the way things are perceived
02:07:11.740and the way things that are done but ultimately one of the biggest soul sicknesses around
02:07:17.200that i've noticed is that people have this detriment of doom in which they feel like
02:07:22.040they have woven themselves so deeply that they cannot move them, that their will, their hamur
02:07:28.960and their literal body and their ego is incapable of moving them out or moving them away from that
02:07:36.480woven weird. That is a sickness too, because haminya, again, is a commodity that decreases
02:07:44.300and increases, which means if you feel or perceive that it is low or you know that it is low just
02:07:49.940because of everything that's kind of happening it can go up and so one of the the sicknesses
02:07:56.500of of humming is doubt um doubt in oneself doubt in one's abilities to to pull up and out of it um
02:08:06.500you know and uh your your the sickness of of the ur self the proto self is when we start to see
02:08:14.180people who are deeply confused one of the big things about the philkia and this this is a
02:08:19.140sickness again we can we can relate to a lot of different things but the philkia and the ur self
02:08:24.260are so component when we talk about numbers and in uh teutonic um uh perception of the universe
02:08:32.580when you talk about the self the one we are always just like everything else in the world
02:08:37.860made up of two there is the animus and the anima there is the male and the female there is the
02:08:42.580polaric forces of of you know up and down there is you know dyer and not there is you know sunnah
02:08:50.340and mauni all things have polaric balancing forces that keep the one centered so if the one is
02:08:59.220centered the two must be and there's confusion that people have in this and they lose sense of
02:09:05.300one side of their of their the polarities and it spirals out they become lost they don't know who
02:09:12.260they are what they are or why they are um and so they have lost the the components of their souls
02:09:19.380of of a you know a man seeing the polaric force of himself if that's lost if that's if that's um
02:09:29.380you know ruined or completely just disconnected from they end up going down this road of delusion
02:09:35.140and uh and and uh dysphoria comes over their head and so you can see it play placing out in other
02:09:43.220parts of their soul where that confusion that sickness is taken root even down to the basic
02:09:50.500concepts of of our existence as men and women in this world um we cease to function like the rest
02:09:58.980of divinity we there is no day and night anymore it's all dawn and dusk ishness and so it because
02:10:08.660it causes confusion we need those polaric forces we need the the the vanaheim of life and the
02:10:14.900jotunheim of of of uh resistance against life so that it can grow and form there's this takes place
02:10:22.740it's fire it's ice and once you lose one of those you can see the soul sicknesses is uh disillusioned
02:10:31.700so yeah all of those components various ways it enters in and then affects
02:10:37.460the individual soul in so many different ways all right so body it's not fair you typed a little
02:10:43.140tiny question and it it necessitates huge answers from both of us so i want to um run this down
02:10:51.860there'll be a there'll obviously be overlap with stuff that swan said um soul sickness affecting leak
02:11:05.700the body positive movement the acceptance of almost a race to mediocrity that we see now
02:11:13.220now the way that society tries to not encourage you to be the best that you can be physically
02:11:21.920but to try to tell us all it's okay to be suboptimal don't be you know don't be ableist
02:11:31.640don't be you know ugly is no all of the things that are natural to our soul push us to be
02:11:42.200strong and to be healthy to be beautiful and the things that glorify the ugly and the misshapen
02:11:53.720and the unhealthy literally are killing us and they're feeding us stuff that's not true
02:12:02.200and the fundamental reaction of our peers of the opposite sex of all the things that are real we
02:12:09.720face those consequences but society is telling us this constant message of you know no that's just
02:12:18.360ableism no that's just you know fat shaming good there should be some some of that fix yourself
02:12:25.000come on we should all be the best we should be doesn't mean i'm there yet but it means i'm trying
02:12:30.840and i hope everybody listening is trying as far as the eck and the ego our soul sickness
02:12:38.120this cuts at that profoundly. We're filled with self-doubt. We're filled with
02:12:46.700from our own soul sickness and from the society that we find ourselves in currently. We're filled
02:12:54.860with, you know, questioning our worth, questioning our value, holding our head down,
02:13:03.060with being ashamed or afraid to speak proudly about who we are, about what we believe, about
02:13:10.580where we come from. And that's, it's not just toxic, it's lethal. What we have seen with the
02:13:22.800increase in young white males, specifically suicides, it's literally lethal to us.
02:13:29.320In terms of Huger, we have got so many more trivial, worthless things to focus our mind on.
02:13:48.140And I don't mean entertainment. I mean, stresses of the world to worry about and to be obsessive about.
02:14:02.540Our soul sickness has allowed our economic structure to be one where both parties have to work and work very hard and work double shifts and focus on punching a clock or working an assembly line.
02:14:16.260all those things take away from our ability to focus the healer on those transcendent things
02:14:24.800on bettering the self on building for our folk all of the stresses in our monetary system the
02:14:31.680stresses in our you know can I say this is this woke enough am I going to be canceled what am I
02:14:37.420going to worry about here you know am I cool enough are these genes trendy enough or are they
02:14:45.140dad genes all those little things take away the potency of the humor on important things
02:14:57.300the many our soul sickness has taught us to be ashamed of who we are and where we came from
02:15:04.740because our ancestors just won too damn much so we should feel bad for winning all the time
02:15:11.460um every current trends would tell us that every one of our ancestors past our grandfather's
02:15:22.060generation was a horrible hateful bigot racist evil person every generation of our folk that
02:15:30.720have op that have occupied midgard since ask and embla are horrible bigots because they weren't
02:15:39.400woke enough until the last two generations maybe three if you're really young
02:15:46.600it's a lie it's not true but it's infected the soul of our folk in a profound way
02:15:54.280owned um our current soul sickness has separated us from our gods made our connection to divinity
02:16:06.200go through the the jewish god of the desert for generations and now there's no connection with
02:16:13.560divinity at all in the west the the biggest train of thought is atheism and a complete rejection
02:16:22.760of the divine and of the sacred and that's been poisonous to us of our hammer affecting our
02:16:32.440individual hammer maybe maybe not but it's taken away so many of our abilities to see hammer
02:16:41.080because culturally we'll we're taught that only the things you can see with your eye are things
02:16:47.080that count any other perception is worthless or is silly or is is nonsense and non-scientific
02:16:56.200so we only see the lens through the world through a scientific lens through a um
02:17:02.440a quantitative lens and it restricts our ability to perceive hammer
02:17:10.900um as far as the cell we're told through the atheist tenets of the world that our soul is
02:17:21.480finite it's not really a thing we just happen to be alive for reasons that we can't quantify but
02:17:29.920it takes away the sacrality of our our individual souls and it makes us disposable it makes us
02:17:39.120interchangeable and it diminishes consequence if i were to remove your soul from midgard or you
02:17:49.920were to remove mine or if we're so depressed by all the other things they put on if we were to
02:17:57.180remove our own souls from midgard and that's very dangerous and we see that as far as hymenia goes
02:18:08.220we're no longer taught to stand by our commitments or to stand by our word
02:18:15.660honors no longer a thing it's it's something silly or something archaic
02:18:21.740so our people don't safeguard hymenia they don't treasure it they don't store it up they don't use
02:18:28.060it sparingly they don't care about it because what does it matter if there's no gods and there's
02:18:35.980no afterlife and there's no divinity and there's no soul then we don't concentrate on building
02:18:43.580hymenia and when our hymenia is measured we're found wanting um to our philgia we're told to
02:18:55.340suppress that philgia we're told that the inclinations of man's and this has been told
02:19:03.020to our people for a thousand years the abrahamists have taught us that the inclination of man's heart
02:19:09.740is upon evil from the day of his birth, that we're to separate ourselves from our deeper
02:19:17.260selves, you keep that hidden as best as possible, because all of those er feelings, all of those
02:19:27.160subconscious things are literally the devil. We've been told that for a millennium.
02:19:35.560And now it's not so much that they're the devil, but that's just silly.
02:19:42.600That's just hocus pocus. Don't think about that. Don't acknowledge that.
02:19:48.300If you don't acknowledge it, then how could you ever hope to integrate it?
02:19:53.560If you don't acknowledge it, how could you ever hope to reach that woed self?
02:19:59.120That brings us to the last part, the woed self.
02:20:01.520The only self that our current soul sickness is taught to recognize is the leak, and we're supposed to degenerate that.
02:20:14.660All of those things that celebrate the woed self are degraded by the cult of ugly that society has celebrated.
02:20:29.340it beauty is an object of shame but ugly in the the gross and the obscene is celebrated
02:20:38.740and in that case when you encounter and you see and you perceive the woed body of someone
02:20:46.100out of hand you have to reject that because it's it's too toxic in its masculinity it's
02:20:53.940too overwhelming in its you know misogyny or in its you know any of these other nonsense woke
02:21:02.700garbage but we're almost the soul sickness that we suffer almost fortifies us against becoming
02:21:15.160our woed self or celebrating and not and acknowledging that woe self in others
02:21:21.740One of the things aside from this that I think is unique is the Hindu or the Dharmic saying namaste.
02:21:33.260The idea of the divine in me recognizes the divine in you.
02:21:41.080The concept of your higher self seeing that within someone else is deliberately blocked by the soul sickness that we face.
02:21:51.740And this is, you know, 20 minutes of me and Swan talking about negative stuff.
02:21:57.980It's precipitated by the question because there's a lot of positive things tonight and I don't want to get morose, but it was the question and we went there because we had to.
02:22:06.420And it was a very good question. Our next question. I want to learn more about the Astro Academy.
02:22:13.560I think that's a nice break and I'll tell you a little bit about where we're at.
02:22:17.480So we're almost done with the very first year of the Astro Academy.
02:22:21.740now our first year we just had a kindergarten curriculum those kids have done really well
02:22:28.780those parents have stuck with it and done very well they're very happy with the program that we
02:22:35.660presented and we've spent this time building on it um when i say we dean rob stamm and his
02:22:44.780volunteers he has under him have spent so much time making this amazing thing for our children
02:22:55.100the first year has gone wonderfully so far and during the last school year now we made
02:23:02.060a commitment that at the very least we're going to follow these kids up to graduating class of
02:23:07.260i think 2035 to be there for them at each additional grade so next year we'll have
02:23:13.580first grade next the year after that we'll have second we've surpassed that in this fall
02:23:21.260this very coming fall in 2023 we will enroll kindergarteners through third graders
02:23:29.340so that's huge the work they've put in this fall we're going to take like i said four grades of
02:23:35.820our children um a couple of things about it one of the big barriers we've seen towards homeschooling
02:23:43.580is uncertainty. Uncertainty, you know, will this be legitimate for the state that we live in? Will
02:23:50.400it be compliant? Will this, you know, is this going to count? Is this going to be good enough?
02:23:55.480Are we going to run into problems? One of the biggest things that we've talked about in our
02:24:01.340homeschool and that I've said from day one is no, our job is to hold the hands of these parents
02:24:06.500to make sure that our curriculum is meeting the requirements of every state these parents find
02:24:12.980themselves in. And that's why that's one of the benefits we give having such a spread out
02:24:18.320membership is we get to test this and learn from a variety of different states. We are very committed
02:24:26.760to being your partner in your child's education to help make sure that it meets the standard for
02:24:36.200the state that you live in, whatever that state might be, and a couple of provinces in Canada,
02:24:40.940it turns out so we'll meet all of those things and make sure that it works it's legit it's good
02:24:51.260and it'll uh benefit your children so like i said i'm looking forward to in you know over
02:24:57.340the summer we are enrolling kindergarteners through third graders and i'm looking forward
02:25:03.500and exciting to when aubrey's old enough to be in the afa academy so i'm very personally committed to
02:25:09.340it next question what exactly is valhalla hell in the various afterlives are they literal places
02:25:22.700or are they symbolic if symbolic what do they symbolize
02:25:29.580we're waiting on spawn for just a second something's going on with his video that's
02:25:33.580fine i'll go ahead and throw my two cents in first
02:25:39.020so literal and corporeal are two separate things yes they are all they are real places absolutely
02:25:49.740um there are symbolic elements and our understanding of the landscape of those
02:25:59.420places and the components of those places do bear into symbolism. The idea of Valhalla is
02:26:08.720one part of a bigger idea concept of us going, of us ascending, of us becoming more than we are
02:26:19.320and going to a place where we regularly commune with the gods. Doesn't mean that we
02:26:27.900um apotheos and become one of the you know big g gods of our folk but we become something much
02:26:36.660more than we are and we're selected to share the presence of our gods to live with them to dine
02:26:45.780with them to celebrate with them to enjoy in a in a more direct communion with them
02:27:28.460you can see that symbolized that way it's not a you know a realm of torture or miserable place
02:27:34.540we see when balder spends time in hell he's he's celebrated he's feasted and he's treated very well
02:27:41.980Um, but that realm with the ancestors in the mound is, is symbolized by our understanding of hell in its, in its broad sense.
02:27:55.080But like I said, they're literal places.
02:27:59.940They may not be corporeal in the sense of you can't climb up the rainbow and go visit your, your buddy in Valhalla.
02:28:08.460it doesn't work that way but you can ascend you know possibly after life if the gods find you
02:28:14.860worthy you can ascend and find your soul with your friends in the halls of our gods if you
02:28:22.620if you are so fortunate to to earn that spot what what do you say svan yeah i've i knew this was
02:28:32.620gonna happen especially in relation to next um with with with the next episode uh i would say
02:28:39.740i'm gonna i'm gonna answer it more broadly in order to build anticipation for uh the next
02:28:45.820episode that we will leave one more yes um we have a varied path remember if just looking tonight at
02:28:57.020the soul and it's complex there is variable pathways of as the soul uh breaks apart there
02:29:08.460is inclinations or directions in which we place ourselves within the multitude of of the cosmos
02:29:18.540and when we speak of the halls um understanding how we get to those halls why we get to those
02:29:28.460halls and what those halls are is very important upon uh our aspects of the of afterlife um
02:29:38.460you know the halls themselves are the gods themselves they are the containment in which we
02:29:45.820we are brought in our soul might is added in much like our soul might is added to say the folk soul
02:29:53.020or the halls of our ancestors um hell guard too is uh it's two functioning in the sense that one it
02:30:05.020it's clear that hell guard or hell heim or or just hell in general um and it's you know her synonymous
02:30:12.940with death and the act of dying and that which is of death kind of correlates very similar to what
02:30:19.820i would say modern concepts of uh like a uh i'm not gonna say she is the grim reaper it's the
02:30:30.220it's death it's the end of all things i oftentimes call it the hall of the calamities because as it
02:30:36.700is described as being the place in which the instigators of that which makes things end.
02:30:44.380The venom, the death, the shade, the timelessness, a lot of that. But we're going to go into a lot
02:30:51.580of that and how all of that works as far as the soul, the ancestral folk soul, the processes of
02:31:00.660death the ascension of the soul the placements of things that of titles that we see the soul
02:31:06.540attain in the cycle of all things including elevated uh to the gods or somewhere in between
02:31:14.540um and ancestral worship and how it plays in and why the gods um are a part of this process of
02:31:23.060ordering um literally from the top down um but yeah that's i just wanted to kind of
02:31:32.020sprinkle in a little bit of what we're going to be talking about next week
02:31:35.540i wish i could answer that more but and you will yeah you will we will definitely hit that a lot
02:31:44.180two weeks from now next question is a gothi like a priest or something no a gothi is not like a
02:31:51.460priest or so something a gothi is in fact a priest um the female variant is a githya
02:32:00.820collectively we are known as gothar um but yeah we're literally priests of the icr
02:32:10.420uh next question how important is using correct pronunciation when referring to the gods or other
02:32:17.700pagan terms um so there's a lot of ways you can take that how important is it that we are masters
02:32:30.740of old norse not important at all is it cool yeah i think it's neat is it an act of devotion
02:32:40.660and an act of respect to try to do it well absolutely um do you have to no of course not
02:32:49.620um if you're more comfortable anglicizing things or referring to things you know to the best of
02:32:55.140your ability absolutely the gods they hear your words but they see into your heart as well
02:33:02.900if you mean well i don't think that they're out there judging you on your ability to pronounce
02:33:09.380old norse i think we're really benefited here to have svan with us because he's a native icelander
02:33:16.980and it's said that modern icelandic and old norse are um mutually understandable they are different
02:33:25.780but it was you know i think someone said if a viking you know found themselves in 2023 reykjavik
02:33:32.740they would understand what people are saying and people would understand what they were saying
02:33:39.860so yeah i think it's a it's it's kind of a neat way to connect
02:33:43.940with our ancestors in our past i always think it's a respectful thing with names um
02:33:51.700so if you find names in a foreign language and they introduce themselves most of them we have
02:33:59.060ways to anglicize and some people do it but i always think it's more respectful to use
02:34:05.140the native pronunciation of their names you know i i work with guys like it's like when you interact
02:34:13.460with uh south americans or mexicans or things that way and you know their name's jose you could call
02:34:20.980him joe and i suppose it works and they may introduce themselves that way but i think it's
02:34:24.900respectful to refer to them as jose or alejandro you could call him alexander and you're not wrong
02:34:32.020there's no no crime against it but i think it's a nice gesture to use their native names and
02:34:38.420that's why it's important to me with the gods that in afa literature we try to do that because those
02:34:44.820are the the first version of those names that we have recorded in our sacred lore you know you
02:34:53.460don't need to refer to him as odin with the th sound and the two ends and i'm sure if you talk
02:35:00.420to odin odin gets what you're saying but i do think it's nice and it's an it's an extra layer
02:35:06.340of devotion that we like to lay on certainly don't have to but i think that's our motivation
02:35:11.780in trying to do it what are your thoughts on it swan yeah um i mean in relations to the gods no
02:35:21.140it's it's more about understanding how information about the gods perhaps in the english or the
02:35:27.620anglosphere uh came about knowing that when um you know they were translating and bringing about
02:35:36.020a lot of this they did it in german they did it in english they had to change certain things they
02:35:40.900did change certain certain things they took liberties where certain letters might not have
02:35:45.540existed in typing or text and so they took the liberties of changing things or adding things or
02:35:50.980removing things and understanding that uh you know the the icelandic or written as or old norse you
02:36:01.540know seeing like the goddess frig and understanding that they anglicized it to frigga they added an a
02:36:08.900or or or the our senior if we were to call them you know the goddesses our senior um which means
02:36:16.180goddess uh that was not that kind of stood in the way of a lot of the translations of things
02:36:23.860so instead of trying to fully explain it or create a lexicon a lot of the early uh writers just wrote
02:36:30.420down the equivalency um but uh you know even the awesome uh it was often written down simply as
02:36:38.020iduna um and there is that evolution coming from the norse into the anglosphere then there
02:36:48.980is the disconnection between the anglo language and modern english that's also caused a lot of
02:36:54.820confusion uh if we were you know to speak of of woden amongst the um anglo-saxons but not all of
02:37:02.900the um lore from the norse uh it's it's much more fragmented amongst from the germans and the uh
02:37:10.180and the english so going back to the norse is important in the sense that it is the most
02:37:18.100complete lexicon and then out of respect and also urging people to learn it because it helps you
02:37:26.500with uh determining translation if you just take translation on its face value you're denying
02:37:34.420yourself the ability to perceive nuances about the god that you could gain by simply just taking a
02:37:42.020little time to learn some rules and um you know even if it was just the base of opening up an old
02:37:50.580norse dictionary or um language like uh rules and knowing like what some of the the what odd
02:37:58.900letters that would be odd to us the rules that apply to them and what what the sound would be
02:38:04.100and it causes confusion especially like i noticed um amongst i never placed a heavy emphasis on it
02:38:10.820but even amongst like the our senior there are two hours in your uh v it's spelled v-o-r v-a-r
02:38:18.020and it would look like vor and var but the pronunciation is actually extremely different
02:38:23.940because the letters it's actually var and valor and so knowing those rules helps you to better
02:38:32.100pronounce because it also helps you to better understand the meaning in the name why odin um
02:38:41.300you know we talk about like somewhere along as linguistics changed these were added in
02:38:47.220where w's were uh the v sound kind of overtook the w sometimes it was completely dropped so you know
02:38:53.780like the the english and the germans say vote wooden and votan but the norse say oven um is
02:39:02.580because of that drop and it it does go forward i know some people like in sweden when they speak of
02:39:08.020thor or in iceland it's it's thor thor is called tor it's like a tor it's almost like a mash of
02:39:16.740the two so it's it's an interesting exercise but it's by no means something that i think you should
02:39:23.460have as a hurdle it's just something that you learn and help with your learning of the
02:39:28.900translations of the stories as you go along but not about relationship to the gods so
02:39:36.340pronunciation it's not important obviously we don't want to sound silly but what is very
02:39:44.100important is etymology, understanding the names, understanding the terms, not just what they mean
02:39:51.760in modern English, but what their root is, is very important. And I think that's, that's essential.
02:40:00.320And we strive really hard to do that. And that adds, that adds so much to our understanding
02:40:09.720of our lore is understanding the etymology of names specifically and and also understanding
02:40:17.820through translations even of the old norse sometimes they were dealing with as they were
02:40:22.360writing things down they knew how to say the word but didn't know the correct vowel to use
02:40:27.860so sometimes something might be written as like sulkin and then elsewhere might be written as
02:40:34.140Psykin, and that has a difference on its meaning. So understanding those things does help you.
02:40:42.760But as far as if you call Odin, Odin, it's okay. And seek to build the relationship first.
02:40:53.940The language comes later, and it's more about each other. It's about us. And of course,
02:40:58.820the church tries to hold to the most complete lexicon uh and and that that testament of speaking
02:41:06.820old norse or using the old norse names and working on the pronunciations um is again more or less
02:41:13.620beckoning you to just spurn you on to investigate and look further in to the understandings of the
02:41:20.340etymology and the and the sounds um our next question speaking of donations i was speaking
02:41:30.340of that like two and a half hours ago uh is it a thing that if you donate a certain amount towards
02:41:36.660a hof you get your name on a plaque there if so what was the donation amount absolutely it is a
02:41:42.660thing and the donation amount is 500 doesn't have to be all at once it can also be collectively
02:41:50.340but yeah we have a donation plat like a plaque for donors in each of our hops and that's the
02:41:58.420amount that gets your name up there and the follow-up question can supporters who don't
02:42:03.700qualify for membership get their names on place on the plaque absolutely uh we appreciate any
02:42:10.340donations for that we understand that you know maybe that'll come from people that are
02:42:14.900not of our folk or not of our faith and we really appreciate those donations and that support
02:42:20.340um yeah we appreciate anybody that wants to give towards what we're doing
02:42:27.780uh what happens at the lc christians and celebration well i am fortunate i have
02:42:34.340been to the first two and i'm going to go to the third one it's a national event basically like any
02:42:41.060other afa event you go and you spend part of the day friday sometimes the whole day friday the
02:42:48.580whole day saturday and then part of the day sunday with your folk um we camp at that site
02:42:55.540it has cabins and things um share meals there will be presentations there will be bloats there's
02:43:05.220probably a bloat that's going to honor elsie herself there's a bloat typically i'll lead an
02:43:11.860odin bloat um there'll be discussions about the folk mother and throughout the you know
02:43:20.900we'll set up an altar in the main area and um you know make offerings and do our our observances at
02:43:30.660the altar and say different things and learn different things about the life of the folk
02:43:35.380mother and celebrate her and keep her in our minds while we're there and it's a good chance
02:43:41.060for our folk in that area specifically with wikonson but we get a lot of people from
02:43:46.740surrounding states uh to go and spend time celebrating with our folk so it's themed about
02:43:54.580the folk mother but there's a lot of other things that go on and like i say it's about a
02:43:59.460you know two and a half three day event and should be a really nice time the first two have been
02:44:06.340fantastic i'm looking forward to this one uh it's hosted by uh two folk builders james and his wife
02:44:14.260sarah alt and they host an amazing event i'll tell you what they they do really well as far as any
02:44:23.620singular you know person or or group they host the best event as far as their logistics
02:44:31.460the food situation is on point they take really good care of you
02:44:36.740and they have a lot of personal devotion to the full mother so it's a special time and i'm looking
02:44:41.060forward to it christian folk belief says that a ghost is a trapped soul kind of part of the
02:44:50.900soul complex actually get trapped in midgard and can any part ever be destroyed it's fun
02:44:58.340what say you well uh we kind of talked about this and i know this is probably from a long time ago
02:45:05.540question asked uh when we talked about the hammer a lot of the interactions that we
02:45:11.380we think of with the geist or the ghost is oftentimes the hammer um the residual soul
02:45:21.300complex or the the imprint of that soul left on an area at a level that is not quite material it's
02:45:30.260in between the material and um and the visual spectrum or the audible spectrum sometimes um
02:45:41.300as far as getting trapped that's an interesting one and i i really
02:45:51.300I want to give a conclusive answer, but I don't think that's necessarily capable.
02:45:57.120When we talk about the souls of the lost, I can think of no other truly poetically sad moment to think of when there's the possibility that the soul is unable to pass on completely.
02:46:14.560um when we are talking about the soul and and that the um the uh i don't know if this is going
02:46:22.500to work but i'm going to attempt again no it's not going to work at all wait a little bit you
02:46:29.300see here when i when i'm oh there it is so the soul the soul is much like a cup and all of the
02:46:38.120components of the soul as we pass away fall into that cup uh or that containment and
02:46:46.180the possibility that that that the cell does not pass through i think it's extremely rare but
02:46:57.440uh the the to say conclusively that it doesn't happen i i i mean we're talking about
02:47:07.020the processes of death, and again, this is going into next episode, but
02:47:14.340the debate is, you know, I was actually just reading a story about a miner in West Virginia
02:47:24.060that sees a miner with an old uniform in the mine with him for a brief moment, and
02:47:34.760um it saddens me to think that perhaps that that uh the soul is lost if you will um i i would like
02:47:45.560to believe that that's the hammer still imprinting as i do believe that is the case but for it to be
02:47:51.720in its entirety lost or disconnected from the from the folk soul and unable to to pass the bridge
02:47:59.320and go through the veil um i mean perhaps only the gods know the full extent of that question
02:48:07.800i would i would i would hope not as far as destruction of the soul uh i do not believe
02:48:15.560that there are uh for instance obviously when we pass the leak is changed it it ceases to be
02:48:25.240itself but much of the soul like that does change or encapsulate fall into the soul uh and the
02:48:33.320hamingya is again dispersive it can spread it can contain it it moves about so the mobility of
02:48:40.440certain parts of the soul and of course the body itself transforming into a state that's no longer
02:48:46.440capable of holding the soul is all part of you know that the destruction of its purpose
02:48:55.480is now different so therefore it is kind of destroyed but the soul itself um the the ond and
02:49:03.720the uh the uh hammer in in a way even though that can still i believe that goes with the soul
02:49:14.120pieces of it may imprint in the area but it never truly just goes away but most certainly the the
02:49:20.280the saul and the on are eternal and pass so the premise of the question is that christian
02:49:34.680lore has taught us that ghosts are trapped souls i'm not sure that's the case i know that
02:49:41.640in the christian era that's talked about but i don't know if that's just limited to a christian
02:49:48.200conception of the soul with ghosts from a lot of different traditions there's an idea that
02:49:58.200there's a soul that that can't pass properly or that is trapped in some way
02:50:04.280way. I don't feel qualified to say that that can't happen.
02:50:17.120I think that that happens more when things are conflicted. I think the closer that our
02:50:25.820components are working in conjunction with one another, the less likely a soul is to linger in
02:50:34.520a trapped or a disturbed state. One of the things that I think is tragic about ghosts,
02:50:45.680and I thought this since I was a kid. I've thought this since before I was involved in
02:50:51.020house a true if a ghost is a person who's who's passed on and some part of that person
02:51:00.220why would they always be scary and mean and and bad and i think when we deal with spirits in the
02:51:08.220world one of the fundamentals is how you come at them and i know that there's people in
02:51:18.460in pagan circles and in our circle that are very big on protection they you know cast protection
02:51:29.020spells they ward an area for protection they're very worried about non-physical things
02:51:38.860affecting them harshly and i'm not saying that there's nothing to that
02:51:45.020but it's always been you know if i wouldn't approach another person in life
02:51:53.420that i'm necessarily terrified of them why would i do that to their soul or that same person
02:52:02.760after they've passed and i found a lot of peace in that when you approach
02:52:10.620the spirit world or ghosts or whatever you interact with as if they're a person that
02:52:18.360you are dealing with because fundamentally I believe that they are or certainly a portion of
02:52:23.740that. Why are you afraid? Why are you hostile or angry? Especially when you are dealing with
02:52:35.400the most component base parts of a person. You see this when you deal with animals.
02:52:44.000If your immediate response to their presence is terror or anger or defensiveness,
02:52:51.240that's the best way to get attacked because it's threatening unnecessarily.
02:52:59.220I have always, since I was a child, and I believe this very much today, approached
02:53:03.920ghosts and the idea of ghosts. Be friendly, reach out to them, say hi, let them know you're there,
02:53:13.440let them know you hear them, and see what they have to say. I don't think that a portion of a
02:53:23.260person's spirit that exists as a ghost is necessarily evil or hostile or ought be terrifying.
02:53:31.660um i know other people may disagree with me on that and you know just like approaching people
02:53:38.740in the mall you're gonna you're gonna choose how you do that now not and i don't think there's one
02:53:43.660right answer but i know when i go up with somebody even if i'm concerned about it my best bet is to
02:53:53.020be relaxed and to be to engage them with respect and with kindness until I have a good reason to
02:54:02.540do otherwise and that's what I say and then to the bigger part of that to the I guess not bigger
02:54:10.200but to the other part of the question can the soul be destroyed or can elements of it be destroyed
02:54:16.620destroyed in don't exist anymore no but dissolved into their component pieces are recycled into
02:54:30.120something different I do believe that in extreme cases right that's when we see the venomous steak
02:54:38.880snakes in Nostrand, the, what is it, the beach of corpses, when our lore talks about
02:54:53.460that extreme level of the afterlife where really disreputable bad people go,
02:55:02.760you see the motif of venom and one of the things about venom alchemically in in our tradition of
02:55:14.680the esoteric tradition of our folk is it's a it dissolves and so i do think that when
02:55:23.500really really terrible people are judged unwanted by the gods and by their ancestors
02:55:31.400that soul aside from the regular parts that pass away with death like the like the leak
02:55:40.760I think that soul the entirety of it gets dissolved and that energy that those pieces
02:55:50.720go back into the collective so they can be used again for better purpose
02:55:57.800if that makes sense. And I hope it does. And we'll go into that a little bit more detail in a couple
02:56:05.720of weeks. Next question. Gentlemen, great stream as usual. Deep topic. Can I get the sources of
02:56:17.320all this soul related info? Books, authors, please. Thank you. So I've been trying to figure this out
02:56:24.780and i could have sworn it's in rune lore but it might be in futhark right rune lore by edrid
02:56:35.100thorson and um i'll hear you go theme now or uh stephen goes into this in uh also true a native
02:56:46.380european spirituality he is very much you know he was part of that development with edrid back in
02:56:53.660the day he's very much from that school and he reiterates those different pieces but in in his
02:56:59.740own voice in his book as well and some of this is uh witness fawn and myself's um extrapolations
02:57:09.740and expanding upon those works but those two sources are the key sources so that's rune lore
02:57:18.060by edrid thorson and also true and native european spirituality by stephen mcnowen
02:57:27.340is there anything written about the soul in books from history from pagan times or after paganism
02:57:35.580from times that books like the eddas were written during so i want to answer your question but i
02:57:43.180also want to address the premise there are absolutely books written on this in pagan times
02:57:49.580by pagans those are the two books that i just mentioned rune lore and also true native european
02:57:55.340spirituality we are currently living in pagan times and these things are just as authentic
02:58:03.580from people that live now as they were from people who happen to live in the viking age
02:58:09.100or before we are just as entitled to practice and to develop also true as our most ancient ancestors
02:58:23.100so yeah there's that as far as information about our soul from
02:58:39.100not that I can think of. A lot of this is extrapolated from a lot of different sources,
02:58:47.880but one that's relevant, and this is a kind of a sidetrack, but I think that
02:58:55.680Witt and Svahn might know exactly what I'm talking about.
02:59:00.240Where was it when they sent somebody's hammer to scout Iceland?
02:59:09.660and there was the different land spirits personified by iceland that it encountered
02:59:18.220on the icelandic seal yeah all of trigger sons saga the yeah
02:59:26.940i can always count on swan not to let me down on the lore stuff that's awesome um yeah that one's
02:59:34.060really kind of interesting and it talks about some of this a little bit there's also is that
02:59:40.700the same saga they talk about the guy's hammer that went out as like a walrus
02:59:47.580and i want to say that's in eric's saga it might be when they're talking about in greenland
02:59:56.300with labor ericsson there's there's some of these things that honestly if you'll if you'll forgive
03:00:03.020me some of these things kind of become they blend together especially some of the saga work because
03:00:09.500these aren't like the focus of the sagas they're just little instances in them that are that are
03:00:15.660spoken about um but yeah that's best i've got on it swan are you aware of any um
03:00:25.180uh ancient materials that that add to add to this discussion um
03:00:33.020The best way you can really look at this is it's kind of, again, scattered throughout.
03:00:43.440So there's mentionings of certain things.
03:00:46.460And first and foremost, it's worth also noting that most of that which was written down was 150, 200, sometimes 300 years after the conversion of Iceland, which is used as a benchmark.
03:00:59.640it doesn't necessarily mean there's just a hard cut off and all of a sudden everyone's
03:01:03.880not of the native faith anymore it's but there's a definitely a stringing out from there but uh
03:01:12.840the stories were still passed on because they were very important so there's little mentions of um
03:01:19.640like in in the sagas of the icelanders uh you know when eil skala grimson mentions about the death of
03:01:27.640his son and he uh makes a remark about the the uh the she's not quite an austen year she's but she
03:01:40.440is noted for her position in the cosmos of what what she is responsible for which is death and
03:01:45.800he laments her for taking away his son um again there's mentions of uh barrow mounds and burials
03:01:56.040and burnings and pyres and and things like that so it's very scattered the best pathway i would say
03:02:04.440is to look at some books um that are of our century that compile most of these up so that
03:02:15.000they can be brought to review by you the reader um and there's really two books that come to mind
03:02:22.520um it's myths and symbols of pagan europe by davidson and then there is the road to hell
03:02:32.260um let me see and when you when you look it up you get um a couple of odd searches but the big
03:02:41.240one again by davidson uh the study and the conception of the dead in old norse literature
03:02:49.620those two i think are really good to get an idea of the teutonic aryan branches um
03:02:59.220iterations of death as uh we have evolved as a people because remember to death um
03:03:06.980as far as the way we deal with it as far as the way we handle certain things like our ancestor
03:03:12.980went through phases where they were able to bury the dead in mounds and then other times during
03:03:17.380migration periods they would burn the dead so there's evolutions of things that even now we're
03:03:23.220doing whereas we're moving from burials to cremations to uh you know um now i mean they're
03:03:29.940getting with the the trees the the tree um uh encapsulation of the of the dead um again those
03:03:39.620are all part of the i would say an organic evolution of our the necessities of the way we
03:03:46.180deal with death but when we talk about ascension and descension when we talk about how the gods
03:03:52.660view us see us mark us based on our deeds and how our ancestors also view us and mark us for entry
03:04:01.620into the folk soul beyond the veil that's all really poignant in those books about uh these
03:04:09.300fragments just being kind of placed into the story giving you a glimpse a window into the views
03:04:16.020of our ancestors in relation to death um and and and the working the inner workings of it
03:04:22.260i mean that's how we know that say for instance um you know snorri stutlason who wrote and compiled
03:04:31.060did add in a lot of his views about classical literature from greece and from rome but he also
03:04:38.020added in some of his inflections about christianity especially in regards to the underworld and
03:04:43.460especially with the usage of the of the name of hell herself of course that being utilized in the
03:04:50.900german uh or germanic translations of the bible it's like they use hadith or the latin and the
03:04:58.340and the uh greek um they took those names and that by the time he was writing that that had a lot of
03:05:04.580connotations to it um i i think that it's oftentimes blamed too much because again there is mention of
03:05:12.260venom and venom has a place within our cosmology as in purpose um so a lot of people try to say oh
03:05:20.180he was just christianizing it and they don't realize that there is heavy moral implications
03:05:25.620in what we do in our faith um that we have you know a checks and balances if you will
03:05:34.340based on our deeds and where we go but um that would be the best bet find those two books and
03:05:40.980look at the compilations of the views of death both in um everything down to um the old practices
03:05:49.540of sacrifice even of the of prisoners of uh war of animals of what a bloat is or what it was
03:06:00.980in elder times and how it evolved how they went from um sacred butchering to uh the gifting of
03:06:08.180weapons and the gifting of bread and the gifting of mead and all of that was were part of the bloat
03:06:14.900or the giving process to the gods a lot of that would will help you contextualize to
03:27:34.460But there's this moment when all of a sudden their eyes get big,
03:27:40.280get as big as saucers, and something happens.
03:27:45.800Oh, wow, we are in the presence of the gods.
03:27:49.780and it's so special when you see it happen it's not every day
03:27:56.580but you know maybe once every couple of years you see that in someone's eyes when you perform a
03:28:04.540And it's beautiful. And it is. It is profound confirmation that you're doing something right. It's not all you. It's them. It's the gods. But you're being that bridge at that moment. You're facilitating our gods and one of our people.
03:28:34.540coming together and it's a really special thing um i think that's the closest
03:28:43.340to answering your question and i'm not aware of this internet phenomenon i don't see this
03:28:47.820everywhere i don't know where you're at you kids today i realize that you know every couple of
03:28:54.060days i realize how old i am i don't feel like it man i tell you what i feel like i'm 20 years old
03:28:59.580me i referenced the sega game on a stand-up at an arcade and i played it in a friend's
03:29:08.620mom's house but i played it in aaron besh's house in fifth grade um
03:29:20.460but yeah that's the closest thing to your question that i'm aware of
03:29:25.580but it's i think a really important part about it is once you see that
03:29:37.100you can't you can't go back once you vit you venture outside of your mundane self
03:29:45.820and you see the other and you see the spiritual and you connect with the divine
03:29:51.340you can't unsee it you can try to you can fake it but once you know you can't unknow
03:30:01.360and jokingly like the stupid thing I said to Svon a few minutes ago but it's best to
03:30:05.980be middling wise about eating dog realistically though that's the thing about being middling wise
03:30:15.160once you know something beyond you don't have the luxury anymore of ignoring it
03:30:21.760and you also don't have the moral um excuse of you didn't know
03:30:28.760if you go through your life and you're just a lame and you go through and you don't know anything
03:30:36.340and you don't try hard and whatever at least you can kind of like oh well i didn't know there's
03:30:41.820anything more, once you transcend that existence and you touch the other, if you go back, that's on
03:30:55.440you. If you go back, you have the responsibility of knowing and choosing to stay the same and to
03:31:05.560not level up and if you do that you're responsible for that choice
03:31:13.240and i don't know if that's what was asked by the question
03:31:17.560but i think it's really important and to go on with the idea that it's a common internet
03:31:22.360phenomenon something kids say once you take the red pill and you see beyond the matrix
03:31:29.960you can't unsee that so it's an important choice if you choose to ignore it and keep doing what
03:31:38.840you're doing you can keep going but once you know better then you bear a heavy burden for that
03:31:48.380knowledge um what do you what do you got to say about that spot I'm not familiar with the trend
03:31:54.440um i do think that uh when someone's huir is opened it's about perception once they become
03:32:03.760aware of it and understand the perception of it and can they're they can wrap their head around
03:32:11.380it if you will uh and then the empathy that follows when you um like when you see your
03:32:17.140children developing into you know uh full uh little humans that you know that you you realize
03:32:27.700they are um they come into being before your eyes um yeah it is a it is a uh a sweet you know
03:32:37.380revelation that flows over you but i think yeah that's that's the hewers um control of perception
03:32:45.060and intellect and i think a lot of people are closed off and i i could say negative things
03:32:49.620but the biggest biggest thing i would say is a lot of times people are just not
03:32:53.140perceptive of things because they have to close things out in order to do certain things in their
03:32:58.100life but when they slow down or take a moment or catch a moment and it opens up that intellect for
03:33:04.820them to to fully grasp it yeah it's uh it's a tidal wave sometimes so over in the chat
03:33:14.100ali's throwing at me that uh that i am literally her parents age i could literally be her dad
03:33:22.020you know what that has struck me a few times with people i'm really fortunate in my life
03:33:30.740in so many ways one of those i was thinking about that mandy and myself we're both turning 42 this
03:33:38.740year i've got friends that i consider my friends that i hang out with friends that are in their
03:33:49.22070s that are my parents age um or my father's age rather um and friends that are in their 20s
03:33:59.380and it's time is a strange thing that way some of my very best friends are literally in their
03:34:07.86060s and 70s and some of my very best friends who i feel like i i'm a peer with are also in their
03:34:17.86020s and that big of a spread i think is a is a blessing you know the joke over inside on the
03:34:27.140side chat is that it's rubbing salt in it or whatnot you know what i gotta see this you know
03:34:33.140what it's really not if i had lived a different life maybe it would be i am so
03:34:43.460i am so blessed and so proud of the situation that i'm in that i'm in right now and
03:34:54.580and i say that i've got a mountain of regrets about my life don't get me wrong but
03:35:03.140Where I've come and so much of my adult life that's been involved in the Oss True Folk Assembly, the more I've been involved with this that we're all doing together, the more everything has just come into place.
03:35:21.080When I talk about my AFA family, I love you guys.
03:35:25.460And I mean that from the bottom of my heart about this being my family.
03:35:28.680When I see people that I genuinely like and care about that view me as a father figure or as their parents' generation, it doesn't rub salt into anything.
03:42:21.400You're literally putting your money where your mouth is.
03:42:25.220Taking a stand and publicly being a proud member of VAFA
03:42:30.340puts you in a spot where you could receive
03:42:34.300sanction or bad things, but also to where you are visibly representing us and making it easier for
03:42:45.460those behind you to stand up for us. I think that increases your hominia. Standing up and
03:42:53.620speaking truth and being who you are in a social context to where that's not accepted or that's
03:43:01.940not the norm. Again, you face ridicule possibly, but you're being righteous in doing that.
03:43:11.940Anything that's honestly, and I did this earlier, my little thing with my ring, I'm not,
03:43:17.420you know, knuckles or whatever. It's the ring rhido, which is the ring of our priesthood.
03:43:23.080It's about the right actions at the right time. So every time you know the right thing to do,
03:43:29.340and you're scared to do it because there's a consequence or you might you might make somebody
03:43:34.380mad or you might you know you might whatever doing those things that you know are right
03:43:41.900regardless of the concerns that you have in the aftermath those are the things that boost that
03:43:49.580hymenia score in my in my belief what do you say swan well by the nature of asking the question
03:43:59.340the uh this is a huddle moment this is a bring it in gentleman kind of moment but for yourself i i
03:44:05.740think if you're asking this question about how you can build up your humming the first thing to do is
03:44:10.700assess the situation look at the mantles in which you you're you're bearing uh if you're a brother
03:44:17.900if you're a father if you're um an employer or an employee um if you're dedicated to something
03:44:27.180assess the mantles that you wear and look at them and first off find the ones that you can
03:44:35.980commit to the ones that you or that you're dedicated and oath bound to and start by
03:44:42.860building and acting nobly and worthy of those mantles um take take the time to look at those
03:44:50.780mantles and find the ones that you can activate on immediately there's other ones that you might
03:44:55.740have that are kind of gray uh and if they're not really there it's even is the right action would
03:45:03.580be to um clarify either re-solidify those mantles or get rid of them and focus on the ones you do
03:45:11.260have because we get scattered a lot and i think the the economy of movement is what i'm talking
03:45:16.620about if you're trying to up your luck and your hamingya and your soul it takes a moment to assess
03:45:23.900what best actions would go towards that. And I think that's about the mantles and the titles
03:45:31.420and the responsibilities that you place on yourself and that you have on yourself and that
03:45:36.040you address them and meet them with your chin up, your chest is out and you hold truth and you speak
03:45:43.960the truth and you make your decisions and you be fair and honest and clear and clean and follow
03:45:49.420the virtues and you will start to build your luck but do it in that assessment
03:45:57.340so this flows right into our next question what do you think about the proposition that
03:46:04.460hymenia as good luck is a misinterpretation and that it applies more to the totality of the being
03:46:13.740and how does that uh affect the luck of the being what do you think on that's fun
03:46:23.100i again i think it's more the the the interpretation of good luck is as it's more about
03:46:33.580again the gravity or the the momentum of your actions and it can affect other things so that
03:46:43.360it is the momentum of actions of your ancestors it's the momentum of your community or the people
03:46:49.860to the to the right and to the left of you so that the the action of your being and and your
03:46:58.180achieving total self in your action is the component that makes it about
03:47:05.820luck if you will um yeah i think that that term is thrown around too loosely
03:47:14.520um as far as it being a misinterpretation i mean again i think it's lost in that
03:47:23.700like our modern concepts of luck as it is perhaps more about the ability of the total self to affect
03:47:31.260the world around us um for good or for ill because it doesn't necessarily pertain simply to luck or
03:47:39.480the positive it can affect the negative it can affect things around us so it's i i would call
03:47:44.600it almost like cumulative deed through correct action and that garners or bears the fruit of
03:47:52.820good or bad based on what you do with that um the
03:48:02.340humming in in and of itself as a something that's passed down from your ancestry i know some people
03:48:08.500might have a hang up with it when you talk about like i don't have good relationships with my
03:48:14.180family or perhaps somebody in your family from the past or somebody more directly that you're
03:48:20.580you're related to has done terrible things or things that are bad or just things that are not
03:48:27.100good within the family. Remember, your haminya is firstly based on your actions, your ability to
03:48:34.040pull out of the cumulative action of others that have been kind of foisted on you or, you know,
03:48:41.640or correcting those actions with drastic action, cutting through oftentimes settling issues,
03:48:50.580A lot of times things that are unsaid or lingering problems that are going on can oftentimes completely stop draining from your life by simply stepping across and immediately saying, you know, I know this is a problem.
03:49:08.400i know this has been a problem for whoever's involved and i want this to stop i need this
03:49:14.320to stop and uh what do you know i've taken these steps to make it and i don't want to continue on
03:49:19.460with this pathway anymore and it could be something as a open and shut kind of case
03:49:25.200when it comes to things like that um you know we also talk about hamingya in the sense of like
03:49:32.840even further down in the past uh the unseen ancestral luck um and i think one of the big
03:49:39.900things that boosts your hamina is i i'm i'm very big on um the idea that obligation obligation to
03:49:51.200your mantles and existence as folk is it places you within obligation to give honor and worth to
03:50:00.840gods because through them and your obligation to understanding them opens you further and
03:50:09.560it's in a funny way it's the only way i can describe it is is like the automobile perception
03:50:14.760when you when you buy an automobile that you really like and then all of a sudden you see
03:50:19.160it everywhere when you take that step towards building your humming and doing corrective action
03:50:25.400and building in that obligation to the gods to honor them as folk descended from them
03:50:33.240you begin to see just by taking the action of like like buying that car and then suddenly all
03:50:40.520of these avenues start opening up or your perception of of the existence of the gods
03:50:45.640and how they've interplayed in your life before and are doing so now uh it's that's that's massive
03:50:53.560and i think that that comes from cumulative deed and that's part of that gravity it goes all the
03:51:01.720way up and it it's it may you you may feel minuscule in your in your deeds but the tiniest of
03:51:09.640ripples start that way and build up and build up and then they refract back into your life
03:51:15.480and you just have to have the perception of knowing it so i think coming is you know as
03:51:21.960good luck is some rose colored glasses i've never heard it interpreted as good luck i think it's
03:51:29.480luck generally and you can have terrible hymenia if you are just a dirt bag that can't follow
03:51:37.080through on any of your oaths that does wrong by your family does wrong by your gods
03:51:44.360you can have a very negative hymenia you can have a hymenia debt um
03:51:51.960And that's important, too. Good luck doesn't just mean that you're good at the dice or whatever.
03:52:01.400It is a. So. It's been important to me and the name of this very show that we're participating in right now is Victory Never Sleeps.
03:52:19.400So victory is determined very often by Hymenia. Are you blessed with victory in the things that you do and the things that you set out to do? Hymenia is a part of the machine of victory or not.
03:52:36.280But if you have a very bad hymenia, then you are predestined to more often than not fail and do poorly.
03:52:52.860Your success is a deviation from that hymenia and not your standard course.
03:52:59.580i've talked about this a number of times tonight but the the rune for a priesthood right though
03:53:05.720is the right action at the right time by doing that and by building that up you are ramping up
03:53:12.540and increasing your hymenia your hymenia more often than not propels you towards victory or defeat
03:53:21.380Um, I think that Hymenia as luck, not good luck, but as luck generally is a, I think it is accurate. I think in common parlance, it doesn't equate to the gravity that it truly has.
03:53:42.380has. I talked on a previous show about this. Our fates, our norns, our, you know, that which has
03:53:58.660happened uh earth verdandi that that which is happening and scald that which should happen
03:54:10.420so you get projected in a direction for something that should happen and hymenya is a part of
03:54:18.900projecting you in whether you're likely to be victorious or that you're likely to fail at
03:54:24.820certain things. Other things factor in certainly, but this is your initial trajectory. And if you
03:54:33.540built a mighty Hymenia, that trajectory is geared much more towards success than if you had a poor
03:54:42.180I mean, if that makes sense. Is the AFA associated with Voton Network? Not really, but kinda. So
03:54:58.260certainly, Stephen McNallan is a member of the AFA. He is the founder of the AFA. He is a dear
03:55:09.220friend and mentor of mine, and all of ours. So certainly, you know, there is a relationship,
03:55:23.980I suppose, between Votan Network and the AstroFolk Assembly.
03:55:30.900I'm trying to think of the best way to put it, because obviously there is connectivity,
03:55:35.180And if Steve ever needs help or whatever, I've got Steve's back 110%.
03:55:42.380But I'm responsible for AFA stuff, and he's responsible for Votan Network stuff.
03:55:49.520So if Steve says something over there that's odd, please don't hold that against me and vice versa.
03:55:57.360But. Now, Stephen McNallan, the founder of modern Ausatru, the founder of the Astro Folk Assembly.
03:56:09.640We would do absolutely anything for that man.
03:56:17.660Yeah, there's no way for there not to be an association.
03:56:21.220But like I said, if Steve says something odd over there, please don't put that on me.
03:56:26.140and vice versa. But if Steve ever needs help with anything, we're there for him a thousand percent.
03:56:37.960Yeah. So I'm not really sure what his plan. Votan Network is very much a personal pursuit
03:56:45.040of Steve's. And so I'm not sure what all he has planned or wants to do with that.
03:56:51.200But in every endeavor in his life, we wish him the absolute best, and we want to be supportive of him.
03:57:03.060So Nick asks, we talked about, or on Berserker and Ulthednar a bit, in regards to the Wodsof and Oðr.
03:57:12.720Is this the same source of some of the monumental feats of our folk outside of battle?
03:58:04.920Certainly, we have members of our folk who are able to achieve that on the battlefield.
03:58:11.580But so many of us don't have that opportunity or aren't in that situation.
03:58:18.200And you do see that in the mother who's able to lift a car off of her child or somebody who's a, you know, regular folks that see a burning building and hear a baby crying, break in, save the child, get burns, but don't feel them until they're out and the kid's safe.
03:58:39.460And we see that a lot. That is the very essence of heroism, is when you transcend
03:58:47.960the bounds that we feel are normal to achieve greatness. And you see those in a variety of
03:58:59.000contexts. But I think that those that you mentioned, that's absolutely expression of
03:59:06.340those moments where you achieve the woe self. And like I said, the vast, vast, vast majority of us,
03:59:16.000maybe we touch that once in a lifetime. You know, the really great ones, maybe they touch it a few
03:59:24.660times, but being able to achieve that and live in that place, that's the goal. And that is the
03:59:33.560essence of ascension what do you say on that's fine i i mean i think you hit it well it's yeah
03:59:41.160it's it's about the ability um that fate places us in and it's kind of a the actions you take in
03:59:51.320your life that build your character you can't really plan for the moment when you ascend into
03:59:57.320that perfect moment you you have to have the culmination of things already preset
04:00:03.880by cultivating them in your soul then when those moments do if they do find you i think you're more
04:00:10.920pre-apt to again align and ascend into the moment and become something more but yeah it's about
04:00:19.160cultivating the little pieces for the possibilities of where your fate might lead you
04:00:27.320So Ali says, I've had the experience quite a few times when I look an elder in the face and my mind superimposes a much younger version of their face over what I'm actually seeing with eyes.
04:16:45.360yeah uh again that that does cause a lot of confusion when we talk about
04:16:50.560the folk solo the living folks so the folks all now and physical world the material um
04:16:56.400But yes, again, the collection of things are about the connectivity between them. Like I was speaking before about Frith. So as those things dissolve too, the Haminha of things can turn. Drastic action can bring it back. There is ups and downs that nations go through.
04:17:18.560But yes, they do kind of carry their own collective soul, if you will.
04:17:29.280um i mean you can see this in when we talk about tribes or we're talking about people the way they
04:17:38.320interact with each other the way they viewed other groups whether it was um you know the the uh
04:17:44.320barangians uh looking at the byzantines or if we look at the germanics looking at rome or or vice
04:17:52.080versa whatever it was is that the soul of the people was heavily hinged on the deeds of the
04:17:58.640people and so whether you talk about individual deeds and the accumulation of soul might the
04:18:05.520collective deeds of everyone enacting with their connectivity under one banner under one movement
04:18:12.160um it it does share that um when you are like individuals everybody is with their soul complex
04:18:24.940they're dealing with the actions and the intentions and the cumulative homing of
04:18:31.900others around them and so those interactions create like the the tides that go up and down
04:18:38.320Um, and so I certainly don't think that there is a sense of anything ever coming to a complete destruction, but very rarely do we ever get to bask in the eternal rise of self of a nation if we could see it.
04:19:00.920And that's, that's often, again, it's, it's brief if, if it's attained. And, you know, sometimes it reaches moments that are deeply poetic, but then fall, fall short.
04:19:17.300um you know if you think about like the the the moment of any nation tribe or group that reaches
04:19:26.480this this culminated moment and then now you look at it and see the youth in their face of those
04:19:33.200moments um the beauty of a nation is that it can it can happen again um they you know the I I like
04:19:41.240of like when the united states touched down on the moon that was a um that was an older moment
04:19:50.760i think for the west i think for the anglosphere i think for a lot of that
04:19:58.440that moment of of cumulative greatness affected a lot of people it's just sad that because we
04:20:06.440share it with so many others you need to maintain again once it goes down and dissipates you have to
04:20:12.520cultivate the individual parts of the soul and if you don't that gets lost people forget
04:20:18.920generations can forget so again maintaining the memory is important building towards it
04:20:29.640when you tell people you know to reach for and to do things of greatness they will do it but
04:20:36.200if you cultivate them into forgetting about it and only caring about mundane or material things
04:20:42.920they they they turn away they they they dissolve down that's why rejection of those those thoughts
04:20:49.560um and those those inclinations are important that's the maintenance of the individual pieces
04:20:54.360can we attain the other again certainly you know what what what could that be i mean uh i know i
04:21:01.880used the moon so i'm like immediately thinking like oh if we could gain mars or something of
04:21:08.600that nature or um again just finding breakthroughs in technology or knowledge or science um the west
04:21:17.400has come so far and numerous times have reached these pinnacles when the first time we took flight
04:21:23.880that's another older moment so i think they're waves but yes nations can can gain them you know
04:21:32.160every time i see the the first to flight license plates from north carolina um it it harkens me
04:21:38.880back to remember like my my mini thinks wow there was a moment where we we went from not being able
04:21:47.080to tread like eagles to treading like eagles and and we were the first to do it of substantial
04:21:56.920sense of like it is now tangible it's going to happen we're only going forward and quite
04:22:03.000literally upward from here so on the word church obsidian skull over in the chat is looking it up
04:22:14.760and talking about how it's it's a christian word or spread by christians or it references
04:22:22.920christianity all the time and it does in the etymology when you look at it
04:22:28.280but if you look at the word they talk about how it is if you trace it back a proto-indo-european word
04:22:36.440for it to be a proto-indo-european word that puts it
04:22:43.820thousands of years before the birth of christ um so that's a thing it's funny when you look
04:22:54.460at the etymology because it's been so associated with christianity over the time period but the
04:22:59.700word itself of a Lord's house or a place of assemblage predates Christ by quite a bit of time.
04:23:10.240So I think that's important to take into account as well. But again, we use it in the United States
04:23:15.540as a legal definition of what we are as an organization. It goes into our 501c3 status
04:23:23.620with the irs and with legitimacy in the united states but the idea of a governing body of a
04:23:30.800religious organization is in certainly in united states parlance the term church is the word to
04:23:39.340use but it is based on on a proto euro proto indo-european word so that's that that predates
04:23:50.420christ by quite some time it's kind of like using the word gods or goddesses as opposed to ours and
04:23:59.620our senior especially in relation to explaining things to people um i think it would they'd be
04:24:05.780like i'm sorry what or gesundheit you know if they so a lot of that translation too is important
04:24:14.420uh yeah god if you look it up references the christian god in its definition and in its
04:24:21.700etymology but it's not it goes back to our in the germanic sense it's literally the the
04:24:32.420the word goths as a people are the people of the gods um and it's far far before christianity
04:24:42.020So it's interesting how just Googling etymology is misleading sometimes.
04:24:49.260Our next question is specifically for you, Svon.
04:24:53.460Take into account that dead people go mostly to Helheimer, specifically Helgefell.
04:25:03.240Which part of the soul do you think is the one that goes to the mountain in the realm of the dead?
04:25:12.020so this is an interesting question and it would be better next but i will address it the hell
04:25:21.500mountain when the mountain opens up and he sees his ancestors this is i have always taken this
04:25:30.800this that is the folk soul that is the reconnection back to your ancestors passing through hell guard
04:25:38.400or hellheim everything associated with hell is about death the the process of it the the
04:25:48.400organization of it and the way that the soul moves whether you travel over the bridge and pass through
04:25:55.200the death the hall of calamity and the end of all things separating yourselves from time
04:26:02.480and then you enter into the halls of your ancestors what that looks like is i think
04:26:13.360it's been expounded on differently by different people but there is a difference between
04:26:18.560the passing through of death and the acceptance into the hall as to say
04:26:24.640not being accepted by your ancestors if you if you are
04:26:28.720for instance if you bring nothing of value and your ancestors decree that you are not allowed to
04:26:37.760cross that bridge there stands the warden of hellguard her name is moth good and she tells
04:26:44.560you you can't cross the bridge you must descend down into and across the river girl and the river
04:26:53.200slave or slither and there you are destined to naustrand so you do not get to see that mountain
04:27:00.480you do not get to see helia fell you do not get to see your ancestors and so ultimately the
04:27:05.680culmination is the residing of the dead in snorri's interpretation of the just kind of meandering
04:27:14.880shades i think is him trying to conceptualize how our ancestors saw only death in battle and
04:27:23.600everything else was kind of this shadow of of life but clearly we see in this inter this story when
04:27:33.200he sees helia felly he sees his ancestors and he's going to go into the mountain a lot of people have
04:27:38.160placed it specifically as a location and i think what what it is is it's a threshold that in the
04:27:43.760process of his death he is crossing that bridge of death that icy bridge that is wide and holds many
04:27:53.360and he crosses through the veil which is helgard and death itself and enters into the place where
04:27:59.040he is welcomed which is his ancestors and they're waiting for him because they have
04:28:03.280deemed him worthy to sit amongst them again so looking back over in the chat we still have a
04:28:12.160etymology discussion about the root word for church and the first time it is spoken as church
04:28:22.800sure that was in a christian context but it's important to me that it's in a greek language
04:28:33.760the etymology does mean a lot obsidian skull points out that
04:28:37.760it means something different in Proto-Indo-European. Well, it does slightly. It means the place of
04:28:46.540assembly, and it implies the assembly at the house of a Lord or, you know, a great person.
04:28:57.560But it's important to me that it's church and not...
04:29:01.420shoot i don't speak hebrew so i don't even know what to tell you would be the uh
04:29:10.140the jewish word for assembly of people but they could have chose that word it's
04:29:19.420neat to me that they chose a uh a european an arian word to describe an assemblage of people
04:29:27.420before their lord as church now again there's no word in ancient times for the overall governing
04:29:36.300body of our folk faith because it functioned very differently at that time it was an assumed
04:29:43.660thing and it didn't need to be differentiated from something that it wasn't um
04:29:49.260um yeah they they could have used a Hebrew word they used a Greek word that comes from
04:30:01.260Proto-Indo-European roots that I think comes down in the Germanic as I mentioned earlier
04:30:07.200as circle or in Greece as assemblage at a Lord's house. But, you know, yes, the first time the word
04:30:19.200church, C-H-U-R-C-H, was used was in a Christian context. Absolutely. But it was used by our people
04:30:27.140and not in a, you know, the church in Jerusalem was not referred to as church. It was still
04:30:35.140synagogue at that time in my understanding yeah synagogue is a greek word uh it was used by greek
04:30:41.140translators of the old testament as a loan translation for the of the late hebrew uh
04:30:49.140kenneth kenneth that meant assembly or assembly of people so synagogue was the greek word that they
04:30:56.740used in that relation but it was um yeah so that's a greek word as well yeah that's that's telling in
04:31:05.940and of itself i think yeah it comes from the the word synagogue which means to gather or bring up
04:31:12.740to bring together so i'm not sure what the the authentic uh hebrew or aramaic word for
04:31:23.700their place of worship would be, honestly. Gentlemen, what's the toll for suicide?
04:31:34.200Not heroic sacrifice. What's happening to the soul, in your opinion? How will kids slash family
04:31:42.640and connected communities, friends, afflicted by that act? Thank you. What are your thoughts on
04:31:51.900this one this is an interesting topic again i i think it's imperative that we understand that the
04:32:00.460gods are deeming us and watching us now while we live we want to be witnessed we want to achieve
04:32:09.020that self that that is noticed um they also see us through the collective as a group
04:32:16.380um it is our ancestors that greatly affect the the acceptance of of our souls within
04:32:25.820um their their grouping back into the folk soul i think it has a a higher um cumulative power
04:32:33.420than a lot of uh people that on the internet try to you know work out or they try to scholarly
04:32:41.500uh create this kind of um work in which like the gods will come down and judge you um which i think
04:32:48.460is very you know uh uh it's the arian branches have shown that that's not really often the case
04:32:57.340where they they kind of descend into the underworld to measure the single individual soul that they're
04:33:02.780the gods are concerned about the living deeds and our cumulative actions can they mark us can they
04:33:08.300deem us unworthy or i mean if we're truly detestable uh you know place upon us the mantle
04:33:14.460that that is so bad that the ancestors when we die are just like oh no i'm not we're not
04:33:21.740we bar your entrance we do not accept you and then you are told to go to the rivers to go to the
04:33:30.060beach the ancestors and their acceptance of that of those things though in regards to the personal
04:33:37.420issues of of suicide i think we know that there are people who are deeply troubled
04:33:42.860there are people that are mentally unwell that have you know committed suicide uh there are
04:33:48.860people that have done it under duress or under the influence of drugs uh things that they have either
04:33:56.780consumed knowing or unknowingly um those things i think the ancestors are really
04:34:03.420meriting based off of your deeds and that is extremely
04:34:11.100specific when we talk about certain things like that again um you know non-heroic suicide
04:34:18.060obviously in australia most people think of suicide when it's done in the sense that you
04:34:22.140know you're doomed and you're you continue on anyways is heroic but when we're talking about
04:34:30.140either accidental that i think the ancestors take into account as not necessarily being
04:34:37.500a travesty to act but other times you know it's it's again what befalls the soul what befalls
04:34:46.060the mind the what befalls um you know that this person as they go how much does it detract from
04:34:53.180their deeds um i think that the ancestors kind of determine that more than say the gods but i would
04:35:01.980also point out that there's nothing i think i think the gods do not look well upon people who
04:35:09.740who give up it's it's not that they look spurnfully or hatefully but that it is of little value to
04:35:19.660anyone um to be a dead like that it's of little value so being thought of like that by my gods
04:35:32.060has an effect on me a visceral effect i would not want but again that's me it's
04:35:41.100It's very tempting for Svon and I to claim to know more than we do or claim a position that's inappropriate.
04:35:57.500We are not in the position of determining what our gods and ancestors deem is good enough or not.
04:36:17.960We have clues to know what they would find honorable and dishonorable, absolutely.
04:36:24.020Absolutely. But we're not in a spot where we can say, hey, if you commit suicide, you're going to, you know, be on the strand and be dissolved and you're worthless and whatever. There's so much that goes into it. And that's one of the uncomfortable things about Asatru. So little of it is 100% black and 100% white. There's context is everything.
04:36:48.580I think more often than not, suicide is a weakness and it's a person who has been beaten down so much or allowed themselves to be beaten down, whatever the case may be, to where they're so desperate and so humiliated by life that they cash it in.
04:37:18.580Now, there's heroic sacrifice suicide, and as the person who asked the question, that's a completely different subject, and we've acknowledged that.
04:37:29.120But people who take their own life because they're mentally so beaten down, that's not the same as villainy.
04:37:43.180And it's argued, you know, when you take your own life and you leave your wife and your children to fend for themselves, that's very selfish.
04:37:58.820It's not quite the same as villainy in some other instances.
04:38:04.200I think that the gods and the ancestors know so much more than we do about the context and the intricacy of what was going on in a person's life that caused them to make the decision that they made.
04:38:24.120It would be cool if I could just say, like, hey, if you commit suicide, you're going to burn in hell, and so don't.
04:38:30.960But I can't because it's not honest and it's not truthful.
04:38:37.960What I can say is, and our Lord tells us, dead men can't do a lot of stuff.
04:38:48.920You have so much opportunity in your life, no matter where you find yourself, to make things better for yourself, for your hominia, for your family.
04:39:00.960for your folk. Every day of the rest of your life is an opportunity to do great things.
04:39:10.500Every day that you shave off of that opportunity is a tragedy. One of the biggest tragedies
04:39:19.500is wasted potential. And suicide is the ultimate wasted potential.
04:39:30.360But yeah, that's really unfortunate. I wouldn't want to go to my gods and ancestors in that
04:39:36.800condition or after having given up with the challenges that were before me. But I'm not
04:39:43.880in that position. I am incredibly sympathetic to someone who's so beaten down that feels they need
04:39:52.780to take their own life. I'm even more so empathetic to the family that's left without
04:40:00.380that piece of their kin fence, that father, that husband.
04:40:05.380i wish i could just go and say that you know suicide's a sin we don't do that now it's true
04:40:14.320and i can't um but i do say once you commit suicide you you close the book on any of the
04:40:24.980things you could do good in this life to build your hymenia and to make things better
04:40:30.440You sacrifice all those days that you could spend in the service of your family, in the service of your folk, in the service of your gods, and you cash those all in.
04:40:43.100it is much better to seek out your go-thart and to work through a problem that's temporary
04:40:55.380rather than to choose a very, very permanent solution to a temporary problem.
04:41:04.480Nick posted a link, but if anybody is at a point in their life where they're considering that,
04:41:10.660there's no timeline on it you can always off yourself tomorrow but i would ask that anybody's
04:41:21.160at that point where they want to do that please reach out and give the rest of us you know your
04:41:27.380friends your family or one of our go thara a chance to talk to you and maybe prevent something
04:41:36.500very tragic you're not really out anything if you're already at that point
04:41:44.500but you give us a shot not to wonder what could have been if only we'd gotten a chance to talk to
04:41:50.420you and i'd appreciate you doing us that favor if you could so if you're at that point please reach
04:41:58.660out to gothar at runestone.org please reach out to me matt flavel at runestone.org individually i
04:42:06.580would love to talk to you but any of our priests or priestesses would love to talk to you and get
04:42:12.740an opportunity to maybe help you choose something that's more productive for you and your family
04:42:19.140gentlemen uh no i already asked that um
04:42:33.220okay how do you like living in alaska oh that was from the alaska comment yeah way back when so i
05:09:33.360almost atheistic agnostic kind of referee uh reformation of hinduism
05:09:46.720um my issues with buddhism are are several i do think it springs from a very ancient aryan root
05:09:58.240but it has a focus on escapism and try and the world is bad the world is suffering
05:10:10.720maybe if you sit under a tree long enough you can escape the icky world
05:10:19.760and i'm fundamentally very opposed to that
05:10:22.320one of the thing about the Buddha is he was an Aryan prince he was nobility if the world is
05:10:33.360suffering and there's so many terrible things going on by his birth he was in a position to
05:10:41.600address those things to try to help the people that he felt were suffering to try to make right
05:10:50.240happen in the world that he was rejecting. And instead, he had a rather self-indulgent,
05:10:58.080let's sit under the tree and develop my diamond body so that I can't use my diamond body to make
05:11:05.600anything better, but so I get some kind of enlightenment. I don't like that.
05:11:11.940I would much rather that Prince Siddhartha would have spent his time being an Aryan prince
05:11:25.460and making the world better with the resources he had than sitting under a tree trying to escape it
05:11:32.280all. That seems like a very wasted potential to me. One of the big beliefs of Alistratru and of
05:11:38.640astro focus simply is the world is good and we should use our powers in this world to make it
05:11:44.480the very best that we can and i think that that was a lot of that squandered in buddhism uh hinduism
05:11:54.800is is different i i respect that it also you know as i said it certainly comes from that aryan root
05:12:03.200um i think it has been culturally intermixed beyond recognition with the javidian influences
05:12:12.560of that country and i think it's very difficult to recognize in its very original roots
05:12:21.280but i can respect some forms and branches of hinduism in a lot of their ways i appreciate
05:12:28.160that they held on to their gods through all of this time and resisted the conversion to either
05:12:34.720Christianity or Islam that was pressing upon them, and I respect that a lot. I certainly
05:12:43.160appreciate the branches of Hinduism that are devotional, that believe very much in the literal
05:12:52.580existence of their gods as personalities and as beings and that worship them in that way i think
05:12:59.700that's beautiful and amazing so i i hinduism there's so many varieties that i don't think
05:13:07.220you can speak on it in one monolithic way but the very devotional hinduism i believe in a great deal
05:13:16.500This goes, okay, so this is a point that I meant to mention way back at the beginning of this broadcast when we talked about the leak.
05:13:26.820So there are Hindu mystics that believe in starving themselves or, you know, doing damaging things to their bodies as an expression of their spirit and their soul.
05:13:41.700And I don't believe in that. I don't believe that we are made better by weakening or damaging our bodies. I think our bodies being in prime condition is the best way that we can actualize ourselves in this world.
05:13:57.120And so I don't think that those fake here, I'm not sure if that's the right term for the folks that do the body mortification and things, but I don't, I don't support that practice.
05:14:13.960What are your thoughts on Hinduism and Buddhism?
05:14:15.940fun uh not too far back i i had a very nominal um understanding of buddhism as you know there was
05:14:28.820tibetan buddhism there was um mahayana there was uh theravada and there was like zen buddhism and
05:14:36.900that's pretty much like i understood the the branches of where it evolved to and in relation
05:14:42.980to um uh and how they it kind of got absorbed into a lot of local folk faiths as a supplementary
05:14:52.260pathway or as it usurped entirely and took over as the pathway of of the religion of the of the
05:14:59.940people so i have some problems with that but that's on them as far as how they did that some
05:15:06.500some folks supplemented others let it you know completely change it brought a kind of culture
05:15:13.380and a language with it that wasn't necessarily native to the areas of certain places there's
05:15:18.660another thing too when we go about the concepts of suffering and i understand that um it to my
05:15:26.660my understanding it's ascension that's sought in nirvana um through self-attainment but
05:15:35.380i question just about the uh closing off of oneself i do get the wisdom behind
05:15:44.500uh being in the third position not being too tight tightly wound or too loose you know finding
05:15:51.060the tune um but overall i i don't agree with some of the fundamentals about the suffering and i did
05:15:59.220recently find a really fascinating thing uh i did not know but there was a whole thing on uh
05:16:06.660hercules and buddha like traveling around and uh that hercules as as an emblem especially
05:16:16.900considering the fact that hercules is the striker from the hellenic culture um but traveling around
05:16:26.180with with the buddha um with siddhartha was an interesting thing i i did not know about
05:16:33.380it was really expounded on by some some um more uh like hard-lined uh buddhists on twitter i thought
05:16:41.220it was an extremely interesting thing where they were um and some of these guys are you know they
05:16:49.460they opened my mind to some some interesting stuff so i'm not gonna um you know shoot that down uh
05:16:57.860hinduism obviously we know the origins i know that uh it's a it's a tough subject if you are um
05:17:05.940from india again the the uh aryans coming in and um as it's often called the invasion theory
05:17:15.140um is not met well especially with internet indians um this if you want to kick out kick
05:17:23.780a hornet's nest bring up the invasion theory yeah just i i i'm aware of that um however you
05:17:34.440have to understand from the perspective of that i am of a people of a branch of the arians you know
05:17:42.440they we are my ancestors moved from their origin home the home dale that they are from
05:17:50.680and they spread and we you know so the origins of hinduism with uh arian faith is in in my
05:17:59.240and evidence that i have seen is is um undeniable uh clearly connections when we talk about um
05:18:09.960the rigveda um or the uh bhagavida and the the issues of the tripartite the moment you see a
05:18:19.880tripartite or a trimurti a trimurti or uh tridevi even uh these are clearly arian traits everywhere
05:18:27.480the arians have ever gone there's always been a tripartite um but it became its own thing over
05:18:34.840time so i find more comfort in the um the uh religiosity of my people and so i don't really
05:18:45.240pretend to know or be in too much i understand that the language especially um uh indian like
05:18:55.000sanskrit and uh the hindu like the hindi language is derivative of of um uh proto-indo-european
05:19:03.960as well i totally understand that but at a certain point i just i appreciate it but it
05:19:10.120is a culture that is not really mine and so i i respect it um i have been to uh a few temples in
05:19:18.440my youth to see to understand it's helped me religiously understand the concepts of of godstead
05:19:25.960places uh where we invite the gods to uh place their presence in um it was a concept i didn't
05:19:34.120fully understand as a westerner uh that was kind of coming from an ultra christian
05:19:39.800kind of society and you know idolatry is bad and um i became aware of much of that and so i
05:19:46.520appreciate that um and uh again some of the um inner schools of thought of uh uh everything down
05:19:59.160to even the the mysticism of uh yoga like real yoga the the dangerous stuff that shouldn't be
05:20:05.800done just haphazardly i mean i'm aware of that as a magical and mystical form and i'm appreciative
05:20:12.360of that as a person who studies magical practices but it's just ultimately not of my people so i
05:20:22.920have a respect healthy respect and even growing more for buddhism in that in that respect there
05:20:29.400but uh again at the end of the day i'm i am teutonic i want to watch the buddy cop uh drama
05:20:38.600that is heracles teamed up with the buddha i think that would be fascinating yeah there's stone
05:20:48.280reliefs of sculptures of it and i don't know i mean in relation to possibly the the the deeds
05:20:57.880that he did it traveled eastward and i don't know that was just very interesting again i was reading
05:21:04.840it more for curiosity and and just enjoyment of the of stories because i love stories um
05:21:12.040even other people's stories um but at the end of the day i am teutonic and i'll stay in my my hall
05:21:20.040so the next question is is it possible to intentionally interact with the field yet
05:21:25.560perhaps that's too animist you know i think that it is i know a lot of people who do their
05:21:31.400altar work make offerings to their philgia or include their philgia in their prayers
05:21:38.200and offerings i know that i do that and have done that um yeah i think ritual is one of those ways
05:21:48.200to build that connection and to better bring the two closer so i absolutely think that it's it's
05:21:55.720possible to intentionally interact with your philgia what are your thoughts swan yeah i i think
05:22:01.480that there are people who can actually see other people's fill kids almost as uh in a sense of a
05:22:08.200of a psychic site in which they pick up on the symbology of the person's ur soul or proto soul
05:22:16.040um and you do with that what you will um in the sense that it's not necessary it's not like a
05:22:21.240zodiac or something there's no uh particular like immediate science to it symbols work with with the
05:22:28.520fact that they're interpreted differently by different people um so when you see the philkia
05:22:35.640of another person it's uh the symbology or significance may be completely on the person
05:22:43.000who sees it um other times too is through through um dreams i i have i have had some personal
05:22:51.400experiences with with um things i've also had a very very very personal religious experience with
05:23:00.200what i can only be described as a kin a philkia of the family and uh that was more visceral than
05:23:07.320any of the other experiences i've ever had um but yes i do believe you you can but remember it's
05:23:13.800about the symbology of the proto self don't get into the idea that it's an animistic uh sense of
05:23:22.200totemic worship in this uh sense that everything has that that spirit that that that symbol is
05:23:29.320reflection of you on purpose and its symbology has a lot of meaning um take with it what you
05:23:37.240will and again at the same time so many people are like i'm a wolf i'm a raven i'm a wolf raven
05:23:44.520i don't know it just it gets if nobody ever sees their ur self as something you when you see people
05:23:53.080project um their desired self that's i think them more on the hammer aspect maybe with a little bit
05:24:02.840too much of a positive outlook or but or a little bit shooting above the bar but a lot of times i
05:24:09.400think filkias in my experience with especially with other people are are symbolic in animals
05:24:16.120they never even would have considered but when i see them um i see that connection or i see that
05:24:25.000symbology um so obsidian skull says it was me who asked the other day but i'm not talking about the
05:24:39.080show i'm talking about big ape people in the woods of alaska there's a show people build their cabins
05:24:48.120so i have never heard about helpful bigfoot people helping people construct cabins
05:24:57.560but i will tell you one thing um my uncle worked as a fish and game biologist
05:25:04.280and he'd go out in the middle of the you know middle of nowhere where no white man's ever been
05:25:10.920or whatever and he would take you know samples do do studies in the river of how many fish are
05:25:17.560running through do those kind of things this guy he worked with seemingly completely sane normal
05:25:26.600you know no warning signs on this guy he went out in the bush in the middle of nowhere
05:25:31.640near uh ruby alaska and uh he got snowed in and he was in this cabin for a number of days
05:25:43.780and this not my uncle but his friend and so he was out there he's in this cabin and he swore
05:25:50.160when he came back that he was under siege by these like bigfoot midgets by like furry
05:25:59.720short squat bigfoot people that were chucking logs at the side of his cabin and at the roof
05:26:08.300of his cabin and terrorizing this guy and he came back he was sober he told this story to people
05:26:16.600and everything else remained normal like the guy didn't like lose his mind was crazy for the rest
05:26:23.340his life everything else was normal except for this story that he swore to so i'm not endorsing
05:26:30.300it i'm just saying that's the closest i've got to alaska bigfoot people was the woodsman of ruby
05:26:37.820i i would also recommend if anybody's interested in the um look up missing 411 the sierra camp
05:26:46.700in which uh there was three i believe there are three um uh like they were mountain mountaineering
05:26:55.420they weren't living in the mountains they were going there for hunting or something
05:26:59.340and they have audio recordings as they they were attacked by um these creatures throwing rocks at
05:27:07.500their camp and they were inside their cabin and there's audio of these rocks hitting the cabins
05:27:13.020and it sounds like i mean just straight a boulder hitting your log cabin um and there's a lot of
05:27:21.580vocalizations in that that it could be a fake i'm not claiming it to be real but it's certainly
05:27:27.820interesting and it's just audio so that's kind of it's uh it was recorded on i forgot the device it
05:27:34.620tells you in the thing it's very hard to fake because they you can't even like go over and
05:27:40.140re-record over it it's like one time and that's it but why they had that that's an interesting
05:27:47.580question so so that honestly i'm not saying i buy into it or whatever that stuff's fascinating to me
05:27:54.940however um so we're we're winding down to the last couple of questions they keep throwing
05:28:03.420them in on us and we'll keep going um gentlemen what's happening with the soul of our people
05:28:12.460white europeans who are not practicing our faith can they go to the hall of the ancestors
05:28:19.580or is this pat is or this path is close to them thanks absolutely i think those uh those folks go
05:28:28.860to the hall of our ancestors i don't think that the hebrew god gets to take our people by fiat
05:28:38.380i don't think it works that way um i believe in ethnic religion as a concept and that said
05:28:48.860ethnic gods have hegemony over their ethnic practitioners of their faith or their ethnic
05:28:55.500Catholic people, even if they have gone astray from that.
05:29:01.620So many, almost all of us, when we celebrate our ancestors, most all of the ancestors that any of us have known have been Christian.
05:29:12.240That any, you know, any of us can put names to or have pictures of are Christians.
05:29:17.800And we believe strongly we know with all our being that they interact with us from beyond the veil.
05:29:25.500That said, I have to believe that those folks do go to our ancestors.
05:29:31.000Their chance of ascension, I think, is different because they haven't conceived of the gods and the soul in the way that is necessary.
05:29:42.480So I think that they would need to be reeducated in that way.
05:29:47.620but absolutely our ancestors hear and interact with our prayers watch on from beyond you know my
05:29:58.260most powerful d seer is my grandmother very much a you know i say very much she was a christian
05:30:06.340she didn't really go to church in my lifetime um
05:30:10.420Um, but when I called out to my DC, or she, she, she came to me, um, I believe very strongly
05:30:20.260that she's with our ancestors, that she watches over me.
05:30:24.640None of that is in any kind of a Christian context.
05:30:28.700Uh, she would never have considered herself also true or any kind of, of paganism that
05:30:35.660would have been antithetical to, to her upbringing.
05:30:38.500but i know that she hears when i make offerings to her and that she's there watching over me
05:30:46.280and i think most of or a great many of us know that and are very aware of that truth
05:30:55.240how that fleshes out i don't think that you know yahweh and odin like get in a tug-of-war match
05:31:03.160or something when somebody passes i think there's truth and there's time you know and
05:31:19.160this is this is some matte upg but i like to think that when when we die
05:31:25.400there's some kind of a revelation of some truth that we don't get to see as clearly
05:31:33.160in this life. But I think that the proof is there in the afterlife. And we see that we see that countless times. Our ancestors come to greet us and usher us into the life beyond the veil. That is a very common thing.
05:31:58.160uh in near-death experiences certainly it's something we know to be true but it's not
05:32:05.360something that's supported by the uh the desert uh the desert religion's belief in how things work
05:32:13.040so i think truth truth transcends religious preference truth is true whether we we embrace
05:32:21.280it or we don't embrace it what are your thoughts fun i think it's imperative that we honor our
05:32:26.720our uh christian ancestors i think it's imperative and incumbent upon every outsider to honor them
05:32:34.320because now they know they're not going to gehenna they're not going to get poked in the
05:32:40.800butt by a spear carrying shadim um even though the names are they change the names to demons
05:32:50.520and hell and all that stuff at the end of the day when you go over what this is really about
05:32:56.460and you explain it to people you realize that they don't have any clue of how foreign and how alien
05:33:02.220all of that stuff is and i think that when our ancestors no matter who they are go back to the
05:33:08.460rest of the ancestors they realize and they're they are brought about to understand um you know
05:33:16.940i i made a i made a funny post a little while back just to be snarky because um i remember i
05:33:23.340remember these christians talking about how like they didn't like it when atheists like communists
05:33:28.460tell them how to be christian and and then they ask are you christian well they kind of did the
05:33:33.180same thing to to us or even to me was um you know why you know you don't you don't honor your
05:33:39.660ancestors or you don't honor your christian ancestors so i made a funny joke showing these
05:33:44.700people in the the 1950s in i think in england and they're having a mayday festival and they're all
05:33:50.620around the maypole or actually i think it was sweden sweden and uh it's it is very very very
05:33:57.820folkish native faith going on and i said uh you asked me if i don't if i honor my christian
05:34:05.820ancestors these are my christian ancestors and they're doing the maple and of course uh a lot
05:34:10.620of uh this made a lot of christians upset um and i say good that's that's fine um it's that wasn't
05:34:18.380who it was directed at it was directed at the people that realize that our ancestors even though
05:34:24.620they you know they went to church and and uh did all the things they felt necessary to do
05:34:30.860when they lived their lives and they were part of their culture and complete and they're part of
05:34:35.180their their souls were really really singing in joy and happiness it's always associated around
05:34:40.940their their folk beliefs it was just it was curved it was there was a there was a ceiling
05:34:49.260in which they they couldn't really cross over i don't fault them for it and um again i don't
05:34:55.580think they're damned or exalted in some other afterlife they're with my ancestors they understand
05:35:01.740now uh my are they they're with our ancestors they understand now and i will happily see them
05:37:47.440but yeah part of that soul complex gives you a heads up on certain things
05:37:57.760perception is a part of that and it's not the hammer but it's the thing that would allow you
05:38:07.680to see someone else's hammer your ability to pick up on something just doesn't smell right here
05:38:16.320Hey, I've got a creepy feeling about this. Your spidey sense is tingling, gut feelings. Absolutely. That is your connectivity to that folk soul through elements of your soul complex. I believe absolutely that is the case. What are your thoughts on this one?
05:38:37.940yeah the uh the hive mind thing i think i know what he's going with on that one in the sense
05:38:46.380that um perhaps if there's a like a blood memory or a genetic memory of something that that could
05:38:55.760give you that instinct i i perhaps i think more so that i think where alzheimer is going with it
05:39:02.840is is better is that it's um that you know the philkia is kind of your proto-self it is
05:39:10.520in an essence until it is elevated through the odor it is um it is a proto-er self and it involves
05:39:19.720a lot of deep instinctual uh issues it's even though it's last on the list doesn't mean it's
05:39:26.120the furthest away from ever anything it's all encapsulated and that the the philchia does have
05:39:31.800um you know that that third sense that primitive sense of understanding of danger
05:39:37.560um and it's strange because i watched a lot of videos of people um you know where they're
05:39:43.800completely unaware of things so a lot of people are deeply disconnected from or i even wonder if
05:39:51.400it could be bred out of people where they just they they stop having that feeling of
05:39:58.680of or if it is the hive mind folks will they're somehow disconnected from it
05:40:03.400in the sense because they i've seen people just completely oblivious uh on video just suffering
05:40:10.600from their utter lack of awareness or the utter lack of just understanding that they are clearly
05:40:16.520in trouble whether it's from an animal or whether it's from an assailant you know it's just terrible
05:40:23.960to watch but it seems to be and i don't i think i i've seen and met people who have it stronger than
05:40:30.760others um and i i don't i don't exactly know where that comes from i think it's more individual based
05:40:38.120because i've also met people who just their blinders are on they're out of it they don't
05:40:45.080even they're not even aware of anything that has that instinct coming out of them so i don't know
05:40:52.760i would say individual for now getting loopy over in the side chat uh suggesting that we need to
05:41:00.760evolve into some sort of dolphin hybrid to be able to sleep part of our brains while the rest of it
05:41:09.080goes on uh goes on doing this epic the chat is wild yeah it's wild somebody suggests hey
05:41:17.560i'm looking tired i need to go to sleep you are absolutely right i will take your advice
05:41:21.720here in just a sec got one last question we're going to go ahead and hit that
05:41:28.840this is not even lying i am tony king of cheese well hell here's a question for you too
05:41:37.400how's the night treating you both still kicking damn it and in the meantime another question has
05:41:44.840emerged but that's okay we'll keep going so tony i i told you earlier after you'd gone to bed now
05:41:54.360you've long since woken up because we've been doing this for almost six hours but um
05:41:59.320I'm doing great. I love this. This is awesome. It's been a really fun night.
05:42:06.360We've had great questions, talking to one of my best friends. I'm doing great.
05:42:11.340I'm still kicking, just barely. I'm looking forward to this being over so I can go to sleep.
05:42:18.060Still got a little bit of a macros to get in, but no, I'm having a great night.
05:42:24.320Svon, how are you doing? How's the night treating you? And are you still kicking?
05:42:27.940oh i'm still kicking um yeah i could do this all night uh i hate i hate to be that guy but i have
05:42:39.280that guy um i guess it's just years of standing watch looking at inanimate objects for hours on
05:42:46.380end to spread me this way now no spawn's looking spry he's uh i'm having the ball this is he's
05:42:54.560doing good. He's doing good. Um, last question that I see, but again, we'll see what happens.
05:43:00.700This is round three on last questions. Um, gentlemen, how can we help slash enhance the
05:43:07.840soul of the fellow men who are not practicing out so true and are not serious about their soul
05:43:15.700quality? Uh, you not quitting. You're not quitting. Are you victory never sleeps? Thanks. No, I'm
05:43:23.760not quitting i'll be here until the last question's done we even got another question after yours
05:43:28.320so that being said how can we help them um the first part those who are not practicing
05:43:37.520also true is one thing the second part those who are not serious about their soul quality is another
05:43:46.480if people don't care there's very little you can do except provide them opportunities
05:43:53.760But when they do care and they don't happen to be out of the tree yet, then there's a lot we can do.
05:44:01.760I think being an example, I think letting them know what we're doing, inviting them to streams like this, maybe not the last hour because we've been a little bit goofy.
05:44:14.600but in general inviting them to things giving them the opportunity to have a spiritual awakening
05:44:24.040i think that's some of the best things we can do to folks that aren't actively
05:44:28.440out to true currently um if they don't care sometimes that takes life knocking them on
05:44:35.240their butt and then they get that uh they develop that spiritual need but certainly things you can
05:44:43.800do to help the soul of fellow men not practicing aussitrew is give them that opportunity so many
05:44:50.840of our folk don't know that we're here it's one of the things with media um all of us in the afa
05:45:01.160as leaders are very uncomfortable with the media because they shine a light and they're very
05:45:05.880critical and they're sleazy but what we have seen is every time we do get interviewed by the media
05:45:15.480or there is a news story about us we gain members the people who hate what we're doing and who we
05:45:22.120are those people are all woke and they're going to hate us no matter what but what media does
05:45:30.920is it opens us up to an audience of people that didn't know we existed and didn't know we were a
05:45:35.800thing and those people do come and join us and are a big part of what we do so give those folk
05:45:45.080that you have influence with the opportunity to experience this that we're all sharing
05:45:51.400i think that's what you can do what are your thoughts fun
05:45:54.200yeah the best thing you can do is show them the positive um you can i mean the internet is full
05:46:04.440of all kinds of exposure to things um and you can find out stuff that you want to believe or
05:46:11.880you're willing to believe or maybe not or you just give it time it's only a matter of time before all
05:46:17.080these you know conspiracies come true at the end of the day that's separate from what you could
05:46:23.400viably show which is getting together having kindreds having family get togethers having uh
05:46:31.080or just if it's just a couple of you know people who are interested or getting them together and
05:46:37.800holding community stuff it doesn't have to be a bloke because a lot of times people are still
05:46:43.160very very res they they're distant from it they don't know that but if you can
05:46:47.800just offer them the decency of good friendship and good company and virtuous life and they see that
05:46:57.400and then you you're um i'm also true and this is what we do and it can grow organically you can't
05:47:05.720a lot i know a lot of people back in the day were very very um announced we were very very against
05:47:10.600proselytizing um and i don't think it's that we proselytize i think that we organically
05:47:16.920um show by our deeds by doing and if if we continue to do and it's only a matter of time
05:47:25.840before they ask uh what is this about why are you doing this what's you know and as soon as it's
05:47:31.900again it's like the car the moment they purchase the car and they start seeing the car everywhere
05:47:36.700the moment they start asking about the god and they start asking about their ancestors and how
05:47:41.000reach out uh or you know it's all so often in time i hear somebody say you know i really do love my
05:47:47.880great-great-grandfather i have a picture of him and i i um i kind of say hello to him like almost
05:47:53.160every morning before i go to work and i'm just like that's ancestor worship you're doing house
05:47:57.880which are already and a lot of people are like man i i do feel this i just don't understand the
05:48:03.160divine and i tell him you've got to like i was here he says you have to give them the opportunity
05:48:10.200you have the moment and the only way they're ever going to open themselves up to that opportunity
05:48:15.480is if there's value in what they see around it which is the goodness of the people the nobility
05:48:20.360of their actions and the cohesiveness of their community that can't be a bunch of like
05:48:28.360wackos talking about you know like you gotta put your aluminum foil on because
05:48:33.640you know the vaccine's gonna expose the that the kazarites are shooting satellite bullets from
05:48:40.040space it gets odd and instead it should be like have you ever been hunting before
05:48:48.040you ever been bowling before let's go do stuff let's go out there uh and kind of um
05:48:55.960be uh do the simple acts of revolution against the um the onslaught of everything that we're
05:49:02.680that's pumped into our heads uh you know build raised garden beds um do stuff with people
05:49:10.440go help the kids go teach the kids something um you get what i'm saying i'm kind of beating a
05:49:17.720dead horse on that one but yeah it's it's what's around so opportunity next question how long can
05:49:25.160Svahn lecture. Matt can go to bed. Let's find out. Allie, I'd reiterate the caution of the
05:49:33.840all-father. It's best to be middling-wise. I don't really want to plumb the depth of that well.
05:49:42.960Let's just leave that a mystery. Let's embrace the mystery.
05:49:47.000um gentlemen at what point the soul enters the body of the baby during birth in the mother's
05:49:55.960womb thanks this is it that's an interesting question so yes but that's the point of the
05:50:04.680soul complex pieces affix themselves to that new life
05:50:11.240over time. Um, and I think that you see that, um, certainly the leak is like you can, with, um,
05:50:30.000can tell that i'm tired with the ultrasounds you can watch the leak develop it's fascinating
05:50:42.900so mandy's already gone to bed maybe she won't hear this anyways we had kids late in life
05:50:49.340so one of the things was they categorized her pregnancy as a geriatric pregnancy
05:50:55.120she she's not a fan of that term i don't think most women are but insurance wise it meant that
05:51:03.720we got to see a lot of ultrasounds during aubrey's development and it was really cool you can watch
05:51:12.640her little body develop and you know there's a point that we joke that aubrey's this little
05:51:20.580manatee and she looked like this little manatee and then it's time she became more and more like
05:51:27.540a little baby human and as she was getting closer to the end of the gestation period
05:51:34.980no she's absolutely like you can see she's absolutely a little human
05:51:40.020um so the leak you can watch it developed uh
05:51:44.580But you see this, too. I mean, this is one of those things that was just miraculous and beautiful, watching my daughter get born and watching her grow.
05:51:57.240You can see as those awarenesses, those things, imbue themselves and affix themselves to her.
05:52:11.940You can watch as she starts being aware and aware of her surroundings.
06:04:17.980There's no point that you can go find the edge of the rainbow and climb up it and then, you know, go physically to a big hall that's got a golden roof and talk to an old man with one eye.
06:04:37.080What is a thousand million percent true is when you reach out to Odin and you approach him with gifts and with offerings and worship, that he hears you and he can reciprocate blessings to you.
06:04:53.600That is truer than anything else that exists.
06:04:59.140But the conceptualization of him in a human form teaches us truths about him and about how we perceive him.
06:05:12.060But it's not to say that you go and poke some old guy sitting on a throne.
06:05:18.440the reality of odin is transcendent and beyond what your mind can comprehend
06:05:26.780it's encapsulated into a form that you can conceptualize but it's so much more and so
06:05:33.480much beyond that we've never claimed you know the literal historical truth of each of the myths as
06:05:43.380they're portrayed in our Etta's, but the metaphysical truth of them, we believe in a thousand percent.
06:05:54.840Okay, gentlemen, how can we enhance the soul of a pregnant mother and developing baby?
06:06:03.600Praying, ritual, honorable deeds? What is the baby counter nowadays? Thanks. I don't know,
06:06:12.260but it's a lot. It's bigger than it's been ever before. It gets bigger every year. We have been
06:06:18.660blessed with so many amazing babies in the Oster Folk Assembly. It keeps growing.
06:06:25.460You answered your question with your pieces of your question. Praying, ritual, honorable deeds.
06:06:34.520Yes, absolutely. All of those things. We have blessings at AFA events of the ladies blessing wombs with children growing in them.
06:06:44.520them. Developing a strong and healthy spiritual family for that child to be born in? Absolutely.
06:06:55.380Reassuring that mother that there are people here who care for her and her child no matter what,
06:07:01.560and who will take care of that baby and take care of that mother if need be,
06:07:05.580if circumstances turn you know desperate absolutely our older women being able to
06:07:14.300pass on their knowledge of pregnancy and of childbirth and reassuring that woman a thousand
06:07:21.260percent those are all things that we can do and certainly beseeching the gods and the ancestors
06:07:27.580to look over her and to strengthen her absolutely good things to do what are your thoughts on it's
06:07:33.260fun uh i would say definitely as far as building the soul of the woman building the mic of the
06:07:44.060soul with the humming yeah i mean first and foremost the deeds of being a uh preparing for
06:07:51.980a parent again i was talking about mantles and then fulfilling those mantles or preparing to
06:07:57.660fill them you're gonna have the hardest time after when dealing raising children is difficult um it's
06:08:06.380not always a breeze um but preparing yourself for that mantle is good so being involved being
06:08:14.060involved uh you know with your wife in preparation for the baby the other thing is yes i would say
06:08:20.780too i mean i i'm one of those first ones that kind of says yes make prayers make offerings
06:08:27.500burn incense and give thanks to frig give thanks to all the maidens of fensaler and ask them to
06:08:35.180watch over your wife and child and um because i did that myself numerous times and um and i have
06:08:45.340in in one very literal sense received an answer but every time i've always been reassured
06:08:50.780the pathway was as it was supposed to be so yes seek might in the gods and in your ancestors ask
06:09:00.060them to help as well and again prepare for the mantle get involved don't be afraid don't shirk
06:09:06.860stuff off go to the classes learn the stuff get the pediatricians and get everything in line
06:09:14.060do what you need to do throw yourself into it that builds humming absolutely
06:09:21.500also is there some demonic or evil force that can take over dreams i don't know a lot about
06:09:27.900also true but have been having some crazy vivid and memorable nightmares lately um i'm sorry to hear
06:09:36.140that uh i don't know of any also true freddy krueger that that goes around and haunts your
06:09:45.980nightmares but i'm not not to make light of it there are sinister forces in the world
06:09:53.340very often your dreams are a conduit for all these parts of the soul that we've talked about
06:10:00.620to communicate with you, for the different pieces of yourself to speak through your eck, I guess.
06:10:17.620And that's important. Dreams are also a chance for the ancestors and the gods to speak and communicate with you.
06:10:30.620But sometimes you just have nightmares and those are unfortunate.
06:10:35.620I wouldn't write it off. I wouldn't suggest that there's no sinister forces that might be acting on you.
06:10:44.620But I think that's usually a very extreme example and not the norm.
06:10:51.620But I think you have so much resources within your soul and your soul complex, which we've been talking about tonight, that can contextualize and buttress you from the negative effects of nightmares.
06:11:10.640and that's what i would be looking at is the deeper meanings of the things that you're having
06:11:17.840nightmares about and the ways of integrating those pieces of your soul that can help buttress you
06:11:25.100against those those fears or that crisis what are your thoughts swan well i'm i'm gonna go just a
06:11:35.480little bit more into like their folklore side when we talk about the knocked mata or the
06:11:41.100yeah and and it's interesting now because we just went through hexanoct and in hexanoct you know we
06:11:48.720prepare with with with protecting the folk from uh you know those those dissipated forces them
06:11:56.660the mockery of the feminine the uh the hag of the knights or or the troll witches as they're
06:12:01.880referred to in some of the stories um oh then you know going amongst them and thor slaughtering them
06:12:09.020um or or if they're flying amongst the raptors the runes to say to bring them
06:12:14.180down and so they lose their way uh but ultimately culturally these this whatever this is one of the
06:12:23.780things i would highly recommend you do is um take salt and salt your house this is an old
06:12:30.620icelandic tradition my mother used to do it she spoke of the fact that um things of malicious
06:12:36.780intent like that cannot walk on pure earth so salt everywhere salt your house um leave it for
06:12:44.900a couple of days and then vacuum your entire house um if it persists um reach out reach out
06:12:56.460me on uh um runestone.org and um i will um i'll try to help you out
06:13:05.980but i that's the folklore side if you have something plaguing you internally that could
06:13:12.940also create an opening for well in essence the malevolence within your like psyche within your
06:13:21.180mind within your me know within your your mind is is being plagued sometimes that can happen too
06:13:27.980sometimes bad dreams are just bad dreams like as her ago they said um and so you need to
06:13:36.220uh look at what's possibly pressing you what's making you uh open to this kind of a attack if
06:13:44.140if you will. This has happened to somebody else in the church. And the concept that I brought
06:13:55.080through this member was that if it's malevolent outside external force, then we will go with the
06:14:01.340folklore path. But there's also possibly an origination from yourself or from the person
06:14:06.660that's suffering where there's some sort of trauma, unanswered trauma, unanswered something
06:14:12.480is going on and it needs to be answered because it's creating cracks in your your huet while
06:14:19.080you're sleeping and it's seeping out with all of your fears and other things so i'm not stating
06:14:25.620one way or the other let's go with both and just uh if you need to any further on that reach out
06:14:33.440to me and that's that's a thing uh we don't ever want to trivialize this stuff there are
06:14:40.200spiritual forces. Obviously, we believe that. If you have a serious spiritual concern about
06:14:46.940something like that, do please reach out to your go far. The next question is one that I know
06:14:55.120is prickly, but I think it's important that we answer it honestly. What's the stance on naming
06:15:03.800babies after the gods slash goddesses. Our daughter is Freya, named before I came to
06:15:10.440Alcatru, but I wondered if that's a no-no within the faith. So here's the thing.
06:15:23.880Everyone that has named their child after one of the gods
06:15:28.320is going to have an invested interest in this,
06:15:34.520and I don't intend to hurt anybody's feelings or be rude in any way.
06:15:51.720and they understand and see what's in your heart.
06:15:55.260So, no, if I would have everything all to do over again, you asked me before you had a child, should I name this child after one of our gods?
06:16:09.420The way that that would be appropriate would be conjugating a name somehow.
06:16:15.820Like for Thor, there's all these examples of Thorbjorn or Thorstein or, you know, Freitas, the priestess of Frey, the rock of Thor, the bear of Thor, all of these things.
06:16:41.480You can add a God's name into it if it has a qualifier to it.