Asatru Folk Assembly - 5⧸7⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 148 - Völsunga Saga, Part IV

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00:03:00.000 hello and sorry i was entranced by the screen there for a second uh hello welcome to another

00:03:22.380 exciting edition of victory never sleeps uh it feels strange because i was not on last week

00:03:30.300 those of you unfamiliar on the months that have a fifth wednesday to them we have a special treat

00:03:38.760 uh brandy comes on with some of our uh to talk about a variety of either ladies issues or things

00:03:49.460 from a lady's perspective within AUSA True. And that's really cool. I got to listen to most of

00:03:55.200 it last week. And I think they did a great job. I appreciate you guys being a good audience for her.

00:04:02.380 Yeah, so another note up front that I'm just going to put out there.

00:04:07.640 We have been sick. I am feeling a lot better. But my throat's a little bit rough. So if I am

00:04:14.940 I'm coughing and stuff. I apologize ahead of time. I'll try to exhibit A. I will try to, I don't know, keep that to a minimum. But it do. We are on, I believe it's been a while since we did this. So we are on chapter 16. Is that what you have, Swan?

00:04:44.940 Swan's muted.

00:04:48.840 Sorry, I had some background noise.

00:04:50.960 I was trying to not get you on the intro.

00:04:53.960 Yes, I believe that we are on Chapter 16.

00:05:02.260 All right, guys, so while I'm taking care of business in front of the show,

00:05:07.380 so everybody knows we are on Chapter 16 of the Vulsonga Saga.

00:05:14.940 uh the link that we're reading for or the i'm sorry page we're excuse me reading off of

00:05:22.180 is velospow.org and under sagas you're welcome to follow along there you're welcome to follow

00:05:30.440 along in whatever translation you want and uh encourage you to do so um this is as always a

00:05:39.260 question-driven program so please ask any and all questions you want

00:05:46.940 if they come up as relevant to what we're talking about at the time we will answer them as we get

00:05:52.460 them if they're a little bit further afield we may hold till the end of the material we're covering

00:05:59.980 tonight but we will answer any and all questions that come our way and you know we might just

00:06:06.540 take a few at random times for palette cleanser or a variety of other reasons

00:06:13.660 i should mention um some big progress i have been beating the drum on our payoff njortzhoff

00:06:21.180 fundraiser quite a bit uh i am sure that is i don't know obnoxious or whatever it might be

00:06:28.860 but it has been effective and it has been working really well so i appreciate every one of you guys

00:06:36.220 that has been generous thus far and every one of you that plan to be so in the future

00:06:45.340 trying to think of yeah i'm not sure if brandy didn't update on it last time since last time

00:06:50.380 we spoke i mean we're almost 5 000 to the good since then so that's quite a bit of progress

00:07:00.140 those of you that aren't watching the graphic we are now it's a little bit small looks like

00:07:05.820 84.1% paid off, which is amazing. We have $39,025 remaining. That breaks down to about $52 for every

00:07:21.900 AFA member would pay this off immediately. So I appreciate everybody's help. If you would like to,

00:07:29.040 please do we would love to have your help on that um nick can throw the link up or it has already

00:07:36.540 thrown the link up because he's on top of things but at runestone.org slash donate and you can

00:07:44.560 donate there if you'd like also something to think about we're a legitimate 501c3 church so

00:07:52.460 your donations are tax deductible if that's something that you need documentation on please

00:07:57.460 contact us and we can get you what you need for that. Other things, we're going to focus

00:08:10.720 on celebrating our 30th anniversary in a big way at Odenshof this midsummer. That's

00:08:20.400 at in brownsville california at odenshoff uh midsummer there will very likely be the biggest

00:08:30.240 event of the year we would love to see everybody out there um if you can make it this is a fantastic

00:08:37.840 one to go to i hope you make all of them but if you can just make one this is a really good one

00:08:43.380 to aim for. Odin's Hof is the first Hof that we acquired, and it is a very special place.

00:08:52.080 We've put almost 10 years of spiritual might through consistent practice, through interring

00:09:00.480 our dead loved ones there, through just imbuing that place, and folks who see it really comment

00:09:08.560 on how powerful it feels so uh yeah we'd love to have you guys out we'd love to show it off to y'all

00:09:14.980 um if you're a member contact your local folk builder get y'all set up if you're not a member

00:09:21.840 we would love to see you out there we'd love to meet you um so yeah see if you can make that 1.00

00:09:28.480 happen also the following month in july we are celebrating the third annual sigger bloat at 0.99

00:09:36.280 Sigurheim that is in Jackson County, Tennessee. It is a very special place. It's hard to describe 1.00

00:09:46.740 until you're there and you're in the midst of it, but it's beautiful. It's special.

00:09:54.000 Many of us, myself included, are planning to move to that county to establish that as the AFA

00:10:01.280 capital on these grounds that we're hosting the event on we will uh construct the first purpose

00:10:09.280 built astrohoff for the astro folk assembly tiershoff we've got exciting plans for that

00:10:16.000 eventually we'll also have the afa great hall which will serve as the administrative capital

00:10:21.280 of the astro folk assembly and yeah we'd love to see you guys out there again we're proud of

00:10:27.280 it we love it and we'd love to share that with you guys also wherever you are watching this

00:10:33.600 or listening to this like share subscribe if you know if you know anybody that would be entertained

00:10:42.960 be educated or enjoy this show and get something out of it please send them our way

00:10:48.320 And if you are a heterosexual white person and you want to reconnect with your gods, we would highly encourage you to join the AstroFolk Assembly.

00:11:02.120 Again, at runestone.org slash join.

00:11:05.020 You can join us there.

00:11:06.980 We are doing spectacular things.

00:11:10.180 We're doing amazing things that many of us have only dreamt about.

00:11:14.840 and we would love to have you on the team doing those things with us a lot of a lot of lives

00:11:22.280 have been changed in a very positive way and continue to be so we invite you to check it out

00:11:27.800 and get on the team um i think that's what we got at the top of the program

00:11:35.080 Let me, so Svon, what do folks need to know before we get into the meat of tonight's program?

00:11:48.680 You are still muted. While you are muted, as is so often the case, G.W. Farnsworth donated $30

00:12:09.780 to the V&S fund and $100 towards paying off New York's off. Thank you so much.

00:12:18.680 Just about every show you are on here, not only are you on here donating, but you are setting the tone donating first.

00:12:26.840 Thank you. We appreciate you very much.

00:12:30.540 With that, Svon, the floor is yours.

00:12:34.360 I was going to say, it's so important being at a Hoff and knowing that the lights are on, knowing that we're able to buy things for groundskeeping, to fix things and to do things.

00:12:53.280 It's so important. I think folks that are away from the Hoffs and there, I would love for all of us to be in one place or around a Hoff altogether. But every little bit, even if it's just a dollar helps bring, you know, our gods to our people. 0.97

00:13:14.480 and it keeps these Hoffs running, and it helps so much.

00:13:20.040 It's such a direct way of ensuring that the faith of our people continues to grow and spread towards the people,

00:13:29.340 and the Hoffs are those beacons.

00:13:31.800 So all of these donations, GW Farnsworth is, I mean, just very, very important.

00:13:39.860 um so tonight we're we're going back into we're delving into the vol sunga saga and again a lot

00:13:52.160 of folks that might not be familiar with the sagas there is a lot of back uh information

00:14:00.680 when we start looking at say vol sunga saga sure that's the saga of sigrid the dragon slayer

00:14:07.900 Eoskala Grimson saga, that's about Eoskala Grimson. But there's so much more leading up to,

00:14:17.580 there is so much wealth of the past that brings us into what most people consider the present

00:14:24.780 time. And this is our Excalibur. This is our, you know, tale of mysticism and great

00:14:38.060 warring and treasure and the gods and menfolk are entwined. This is our epic. And, you know,

00:14:50.720 the more we read it, the more it is so prevalent. And we've gotten to the point now where Sigurd,

00:14:59.060 who is the son of Sigmund, his father, Sigmund, got revenge for the near decimation of his clan.

00:15:09.860 And he is called by Lord Odin in a battlefield where he tries to fight an elderly man with a

00:15:19.280 one eye and uh he is pierced through he still tries to defend himself and he he brings this

00:15:28.300 great you know spatha one-handed sword down on the shaft to try to break it and it shatters

00:15:36.860 into three pieces and he is laying on the battlefield and he tells his wife you're going

00:15:45.320 to go from here and you are full of child and when you deliver that child remember take these

00:15:51.080 these two pieces of the sword and have them melded back together so that my son that is in

00:16:00.460 your belly can do great things and and then he he goes and is goes to ausgarder and is called up

00:16:10.540 um and then sure enough his his wife does remarry another king and not only that he has a blacksmith

00:16:20.260 who is more he is extraordinary uh he was trained by the dwarves on how to smith and lay magic into

00:16:30.700 the blades and into the metal but not only that he is also the brother of a shapeshifter who took

00:16:37.060 the form of a dragon. And that dragon has a horde of gold that was won by the gods and the

00:16:48.520 kinslayer. Obviously, this is lending to the idea that he has not kinslayed yet, but is

00:16:58.360 is amongst them, and he gains this gold. But there's a problem. There's a cursed ring.

00:17:09.080 The treasure itself is cursed, but I think the focus on the ring was highly emphasized. But

00:17:16.480 this cursed treasure is now in the hands of Fafnir, and Fafnir is this dragon, and the blacksmith is 0.97

00:17:27.740 trying to um persuade this young sigurd to take the sword and kill his brother and 0.52

00:17:39.820 that requires him to meld the sword together to weld it and every time sigurd would cut an anvil 0.58

00:17:46.860 and every time it broke and then of course on the third time he split the anvil asunder and

00:17:53.740 And because he hit it in Twain, now it's ready to fight a dragon.

00:18:01.060 So that's kind of where we last left off was the welding in chapter 15.

00:18:11.100 The welding of Gram in the sword Gram.

00:18:15.640 um and now we are we are moving into chapter 16 the prophecy of grifford now grifford is an

00:18:28.700 interesting because right out the gate there's a translational um issue and i you know i went

00:18:35.260 to go look it up and um this is the interesting thing about translations and when you interact

00:18:45.260 with folks who are say doing this scholastically or religiously one of the things that we try to

00:18:51.900 do in the Auschwitz folk assembly is look at all the translations and try to find what would be

00:19:01.260 most relevant in the poem um so here it's it's listed as grifford but in the ada and again i

00:19:11.660 I wonder about that.

00:19:14.160 Like, why was there such a shift?

00:19:19.160 Gripper has a couple of different meanings.

00:19:25.520 And normally you would think of the word like to grip or to grasp.

00:19:29.100 But I was looking here and I was, it's listed as a costly thing,

00:19:38.000 a valuable treasure or property or a money's worth.

00:19:43.700 So a lot of times this would be kind of seen as, again,

00:19:49.480 a boastful move that the person named gripper.

00:19:56.540 So a note on that, it comes from like things within your grip,

00:20:02.580 things within your grasp.

00:20:03.880 um looking up the etymology in the old norse it has a couple of meanings certainly what

00:20:11.800 uh svan had alluded to there but like your holdings i guess is a way to merge the two words

00:20:21.500 so you know if you have stock in something if you have investment if you have

00:20:27.620 your wealth stored we often refer to that in a modern sense as your holdings

00:20:34.400 or if you are keeping money back from a tax that is your withholding this has to do with

00:20:44.480 the stuff that's within your grasp the things that's within your your clutches

00:20:51.660 yeah and it it also lends to the word vulture which that animal wasn't um fully explored by

00:21:01.900 the inhabitants of the north but was seen in the south and that would make another kind of again

00:21:08.300 the the idea of the of the grasping and pulling um but it says that's a rare usage of the word

00:21:17.200 And I looked up griever and I couldn't find any conjugate or perhaps like maybe they mean this.

00:21:29.260 So that translation is very odd.

00:21:32.920 And we have to bear in mind as we go through, there are people that will claim this means this.

00:21:40.360 And without any explanation.

00:21:43.640 And I want people to know that the Astrofocus Emily is attempting to translate with all the factors in mind, if you will.

00:21:54.960 Perhaps not substantiating some sort of narrative religiously, but that's why we encourage everyone to look at all the translations.

00:22:07.680 A point also while we're on it to be made, and for those of you just joining us.

00:22:14.520 because of the nature of this show we go through the material in a very leisurely pace because

00:22:21.320 all the little crosstalk inside things is kind of the point if you're just coming in and think it's

00:22:28.440 just a straight study of the text then i could see that being that being annoying but it is

00:22:34.600 kind of the way the the show is structured that we go through these things to highlight

00:22:40.280 um things that are relevant to our our house of true practice and uh to to spend a little bit of

00:22:48.120 time discussing those things and one thing i was going to say on here something just kind

00:22:53.320 of interesting to keep in mind at present we don't have a translation of our sacred lore

00:23:03.080 that's done by you know that's done by gothar are we're relying on scholars translating it and

00:23:15.640 oftentimes so if you get a very modern translation

00:23:24.280 you are benefited by the advancement of comparative and adjacent scholarship over the years

00:23:33.080 but you oftentimes have to deal with political agendas that really color works

00:23:39.440 so oftentimes we opt for an older uh translation because the language is cool

00:23:46.640 there's people we're still able to be proud of who they are and where they're from without required

00:23:53.600 you know political homages to causes that are in vogue

00:23:59.900 um so sometimes those are the most engaging translations but it's worth mentioning that

00:24:08.840 you know folks translating this the beginning of the 20th century don't have access to all of the

00:24:15.080 things that we have access to today so some of the choices they make on how to render things

00:24:20.460 are first not done in treating this as religious text but as treating it as you know literature

00:24:29.540 and also it's you know with whatever school of linguistic study they had access to

00:24:38.280 in a time where you couldn't just google something you couldn't at your fingertips

00:24:45.120 you know you couldn't use ai you couldn't have the collected knowledge of mankind able to help you

00:24:51.400 you went to your local university or your local professors that maybe you had a relationship with

00:24:58.020 and, you know, ask their advice on it.

00:25:00.580 So that's just worth saying from the get-go here. 0.99

00:25:08.660 So I will continue using the word grifir,

00:25:14.640 simply because that's what's stated in the text.

00:25:19.340 But also worth noting the sword.

00:25:28.020 Gram. Gram means wrath. Gram means anger. To receive, Gram is like to receive the wrath of the gods or of a people or a kingdom or what have you.

00:25:44.420 So Gram means, again, anger and wrath. And that's the name of the sword that is being reforged.

00:25:51.300 So chapter 16 is called the prophecy of Gryphir

00:25:58.860 There was a man, Haith

00:26:01.880 And remember, Haith doesn't mean the height

00:26:05.140 It means the station in society or the title

00:26:08.900 So Haithir is a description of a person or what they do

00:26:16.400 a lord, a president, or what have you, but it also can mean kind of secondary names,

00:26:26.260 names that title you in a descriptive way.

00:26:31.140 So whenever you see the word height, that in essence means name.

00:26:37.120 There was a man, height, Griffier, who was Sigurd's mother's brother.

00:26:43.560 Another big important thing of this is there is a proto-Indo-European, a Aryan framework that comes from the mother's brother being a factor in a male child's life.

00:27:07.620 And we see this with Lord Odin and with Mimir, and that is very reflective of that.

00:27:15.760 And it slowly went away, or I think transmorphed into godparents and godfathers, but that immediately the audience would know he is someone of significance.

00:27:31.600 And since Sigurd has only his adopted father as a guiding light, and he may be busy running a kingdom, it would then involve the woman's brother as a male figure.

00:27:49.940 So there was a man

00:27:53.520 Hight Grifir

00:27:54.720 Who was Sigurd's mother's brother

00:27:57.900 And a little after the forging of the sword

00:28:02.060 Sigurd went to Grifir 0.99

00:28:04.020 Now remember too 1.00

00:28:05.380 Grifir would then also be a Volsum 1.00

00:28:08.720 Or excuse me 0.96

00:28:12.260 I'm sorry 1.00

00:28:12.780 His father is the Volsum 0.98

00:28:14.580 His mother has married in 1.00

00:28:16.540 Excuse me

00:28:17.820 To clarify

00:28:18.660 and he went to him because he was a man who knew things to come so he was a diviner he

00:28:28.220 understood in here they use the word orlog mana he's a man understanding of fate

00:28:37.280 He knew things to come and was fated to men of him.

00:28:46.840 Sigurd asked diligently how his life should go, but Griffir was long, or he spake, yet at the last by reason of Sigurd's exceeding great prayers, he told him all his life and fate thereof.

00:29:06.040 So he was a man of long speech. I can relate. And then at the same time, it took him a while to tell Sigurd.

00:29:17.120 But the reason why he did was because Sigurd was incessantly asking.

00:29:23.040 But yet at last, by reason of Sigurd's exceedingly great prayers, he told him all his life and fate thereof, even as afterward came to pass.

00:29:37.180 So when Griffith had told him all, even as he would, he went back home, and a little after, he and Reyn met.

00:29:47.980 Now, this is a really kind of forgotten about part of the story, is that he is told of the events to come.

00:29:57.140 And as we read them, you'll see, but just bear in mind, everything that is happening, he was told was going to happen.

00:30:07.560 And I find that interesting, to say the least.

00:30:12.500 And his moving forward is, again, his great will could perhaps change things, or he was resolute simply from the beginning.

00:30:26.100 So after that, he and the blacksmith, Rayen, here it's spelled Regan, or Reagan, but it's pronounced Rayen.

00:30:37.200 they meet together

00:30:40.200 then said

00:30:41.820 Reyn 0.67

00:30:42.580 go thou and slay Fafnir 0.99

00:30:46.240 his brother 0.98

00:30:47.380 even as thou hast given thy word

00:30:50.620 Sigurd said

00:30:54.200 that work shall be wrought

00:30:56.760 but another is first

00:30:58.960 excuse me I have a

00:31:00.340 first to be done

00:31:02.560 the avenging of Sigmund the king

00:31:05.160 and the other of my kinsmen who fell in their last fight so hearkening back to when his father

00:31:14.560 gave his mother the sword he wants revenge for that first and and rayon is just itching don't

00:31:23.340 worry about that who after uh fafner slay the dragon he knows he can't he really thinks that

00:31:32.120 Sigurd can, to what ends, we'll find out. So in chapter 17 of Sigurd's avenging of

00:31:46.620 Sigurd, his father. So now Sigurd went to the kings and spoke thus. Here have I abode a space

00:31:57.280 with you, and I owe you many thanks and reward for the great love and many gifts and all you honor. 0.99

00:32:04.840 But now will I away from this land and go meet the sons of Hunding, and do them to wit that the

00:32:12.100 Volsungs are not all dead, and your might would I have to strengthen me therein. So the king said

00:32:22.080 that they would give him all things so over that he desired, and therewith was a great army that

00:32:31.360 got ready, and all things wrought in the most heedful wise, it moved at great pace, ships and

00:32:40.220 all the war gear, so that his journey might be of the stateliest. But Sigurd himself steered the

00:32:48.600 dragon keel ships which was the greatest and noblest richly wrought with their sails and

00:32:55.720 glorious to look upon so that

00:33:12.680 either spawns frozen or i am i believe that would be spawn sir

00:33:17.640 All right. I'm trying to give him a second to get back, but if not, we can go to a question on the side if need be.

00:33:33.720 all right so while we're waiting for swan uh i've got information here and nick maybe you could

00:33:42.800 answer this because you understand how this process worked better than i do uh from pam

00:33:51.060 which hoff won the walkathon all righty well let me look at these stats here

00:33:57.740 folklore sierra chapman sent me some stats about 8 535 844 steps were recorded by participants

00:34:10.940 last month that equates to 4 267.9 miles which means we walked enough miles collectively to

00:34:23.160 complete our own blood fair to each off from Odin's off to Baldur's off the

00:34:28.740 doors off all the way to Njord's off the most steps by any person was Scott from

00:34:36.300 Baldur's off at four hundred and forty three thousand three hundred and thirty

00:34:40.080 followed by got the Erlinson with forty two thousand or four hundred and twenty

00:34:44.760 3,737. And Victoria from Odenshoff with 384,447. A lot of numbers here. I'll tell you in fourth

00:34:56.480 place is Thorshoff with about 1.3 million steps. Baldershoff is in third with 1.6 million.

00:35:07.760 Njordshof is in second with $1.8 million.

00:35:12.500 And that leaves Odenshof in first with 3.7 million steps.

00:35:24.280 So that means in total for this fundraiser, we raised right at exactly $1,000 to go to Odenshof as part of this walk-a-thon.

00:35:36.840 and that's a lot of steps, y'all.

00:35:46.220 So, yes, Pam, that is Odin's off.

00:35:50.700 They definitely buy.

00:35:54.560 They had 1.9 million more steps than the second place,

00:35:58.700 and the second place had 1.8 million.

00:36:00.540 So they won.

00:36:02.800 So that is a lot of steps.

00:36:06.840 For anyone that may, I don't know, may not know or a little bit of perspective on that, I'm just throwing this out there.

00:36:15.060 So if you follow the Ask True Folk Assembly on any of our social media, we post a lot of candid pictures from our events.

00:36:27.080 We post, you know, every time there's a moot or every time there's a gathering of AFA members to do things.

00:36:32.680 certainly time every time that happens and folks remember to get a picture

00:36:37.060 so we post that we share that because we're proud of those and we want to show you guys that there's

00:36:43.160 stuff going on in your area and that we're proud of the stuff that our folk are doing but um as

00:36:50.260 the internet does there's frequently people that will look at a picture and point out why these

00:36:55.200 people look this way how come this person's overweight how come this guy looks like this

00:37:00.660 this dude has a funny haircut. There's that. We all know that's something that social media lends

00:37:07.740 itself to in a lot of ways. And some of that's just part and parcel. But the other thing that I

00:37:13.040 want folks to understand is there is a big difference between trying to build an elite cadre

00:37:23.400 of your boys at your house for something. If you're building a small group of 10 guys to do

00:37:31.740 an activity, then yeah, you can be very selective and very elite. But this goes to a later question

00:37:39.180 that I'll kind of follow this up with if Svan isn't back. That's not the AFA's goal. The AFA's

00:37:47.260 goal is to bring all of our folk home and so we have people at all different stages of

00:37:54.620 uh well first and foremost all different stages of physical fitness certainly but all different

00:38:03.460 stages in their life we get the idea is wherever people find themselves to bring them home to

00:38:08.980 loyalty and worship of our gods and unity with our folk and from there to help each other be

00:38:16.820 the very best we can be. And we're going to have a whole lot of people starting at a whole lot of

00:38:21.140 different spots. What's important to us isn't where the folks start. It's the progress that

00:38:28.600 we're able to help them make. It's where they, you know, it's how they progress and helping them to

00:38:34.920 finish strong and to, through the course of their life, to better themselves and their family and

00:38:41.160 be more successful. So there's a, there's very much, you know, don't fear. There's very much

00:38:47.800 an emphasis in the AstroFolk Assembly on trying to help our members to get in better shape,

00:38:54.300 to get in better financial shape, to grow wiser and stronger and faster and better and happier

00:39:05.620 in all aspects of their life. And we're really committed to helping each other do that. So this

00:39:10.340 this walk-a-thon or this, yeah, this walk-a-thon deal was, was a part of that kind of encouraging

00:39:16.700 a little healthy competition to get our folks out and moving and in a little bit better condition.

00:39:23.260 And I'm really happy so many people wanted to take part in that and, you know, make progress

00:39:29.840 and take the steps necessary to move forward in their life. So good on you guys, everyone

00:39:35.760 who participated in that. A question I wanted to get to, and I'll see where it is in our

00:39:43.320 little lineup here. Apple of Omen asked, what is the end goal of the AFA? And I don't,

00:39:55.520 I'm going to get to what I believe the point of the question was. There's not an end goal of the

00:40:03.140 afa ideally um our mission continues you know for eternity but the i guess the

00:40:15.620 the ultimate goal or the you know victory plateau of that where that's where we want to be

00:40:22.420 is to bring and in the most fundamental way again we can all right so i overthink questions so

00:40:29.780 So somebody will ask a simple question, and I might, you know, add more to it than was originally wanted. 0.59

00:40:36.340 End goal and the way it was asked, I would say, is to bring all of our folk back to where Ausatru is the default religion for white people worldwide. 0.75

00:40:50.420 To where in the time of our ancestors, there wasn't question as to what religion someone was. 0.56

00:40:57.600 was you were the religion of your people and that was a worldwide thing for most of human existence

00:41:08.400 the end goal of us also true would be to bring that to where if you were a white man or woman

00:41:14.240 that is your faith by default um so we have a long way to go to get there and that's a

00:41:22.160 that's a pretty pretty big goal in its eventuality i would say that once we reach there and every

00:41:28.560 step along the way the other goal following with it is to get those of us who are also true

00:41:36.320 to be increasingly closer to perfection in our wisdom in our fitness in our success in our

00:41:48.240 you know in our prosperity in all ways of our life

00:41:52.640 including and with a heavy emphasis on joy on helping our people live happy lives that they're

00:41:59.200 fulfilled by that they have joy in and a big part of that joy is the community that the afa

00:42:07.840 is you know building and fostering and growing that community is vital and we live in a time

00:42:15.600 where i think people are and i think it's probably true around the world but certainly

00:42:22.800 you know in the west people are more isolated and more alone than they've ever been even though they

00:42:29.200 may be in you know urban settings to where they're surrounded by hundreds of thousands of people

00:42:38.320 there's not the same connection people aren't bound by the same things you don't have the

00:42:43.120 same commonality with your neighbors and your community that was once such an integral part of

00:42:51.040 any of our nations so to increase that sense of community and belonging and being with family

00:42:59.120 that's why when when i welcome new people into the austral folk assembly so welcome to our afa family

00:43:04.320 because that's what we want that's the idea that's what we're building that's what we have

00:43:09.760 we use the expression a lot like welcome home and that's what everybody that's what we want

00:43:18.460 everyone to feel when they come to Ausitru in general and the AFA in specific and fortunately

00:43:25.600 many people that's exactly their response that was certainly the case with me when I joined was

00:43:30.500 I felt never had I felt something was so natural and so right and so just like just like coming

00:43:38.180 home so that's what we really strive for and almost right on cue there uh svan has returned

00:43:44.980 to us so hopefully everything's good on his end and he can get back to where he cut out at svan

00:43:52.340 everything good yeah i was having um issues with the internet and my wife actually called a

00:43:58.900 technician and he comes in checks everything of course everything's working good but it's been

00:44:06.660 going on for about a week now and we were trying to avoid exactly what just happened

00:44:13.220 um my apologies to everyone and um it's just a matter of more or less crossing fingers because

00:44:21.140 it has it just crawls down to a uh you know a crawl and then uh sometimes becomes very

00:44:31.220 intermittent and then it is back on again so we'll get right back in sorry guys we'll get right back

00:44:41.080 into it i wanted to make note uh sierra mentioned in the chat that someone during the course of the

00:44:47.460 walk-a-thon we were just talking about lost 15 pounds that is tremendous so whoever that is

00:44:54.900 well done and congratulations and sierra thank you for putting that together we appreciate you 0.95

00:45:01.200 So that said, Svan, take us back into the life and times of the Volsons.

00:45:07.880 All right. So Sigurd gets and amasses his army and he asks of the kings in his area to financially back him so that he can garner a large army and a fleet of ships.

00:45:22.820 And they do so very willingly. And as he's sailing, they run into a storm.

00:45:31.200 So they sail and have wind at will, but when a few days were overpassed, there arose a great storm on the sea, and the waves were to behold, even as the foam of men's blood.

00:45:48.020 So there are red waves, red foaming waves.

00:45:52.880 But Sigurd bade take in no sail, whosoever they might be riven, but rather to lay on higher than here thereof.

00:46:04.140 So don't drop sails. Keep going.

00:46:08.280 But as they sailed past the rocks of a nest, a certain man hailed the ships and asked who was captain over the navy.

00:46:18.020 When was it told to them that the chief and the Lord was Sigurd, the son of Sigmund, or excuse me, not take no sale as in to drop no sale, but to drop sale and seek refuge.

00:46:32.540 And that's when there is somebody that they meet that asks them, who are you? What army is this?

00:46:38.800 Then was it told to him that the chief and the Lord was Sigurd, son of Sigmund, the most famed of all young men, who now are.

00:46:51.000 Then said the man, not but one thing, Sertus, do all day of him that none among the sons of kings may be likened unto him.

00:47:03.880 Now fain, where I, that ye, would shorten sail on some of the ships and take me abroad

00:47:13.500 Then they asked him of his name

00:47:17.460 And he said his name was Hniker

00:47:21.760 I hight, when I gladdened Huen and went to battle

00:47:29.960 bright sun of the Volsungs, now may ye call the carl on the clifftop, fang or fjolnir, fang would I with you. 0.90

00:47:46.140 So here we have this moment where they're pulling in for refuge and the man's calling out from the

00:47:55.360 cliff and he says that uh he has gladdened human who is one of the ravens of lord odin and that

00:48:10.080 um he may now be known as feng or fjolnir and so we can kind of see where this is

00:48:19.360 going who this who this is they made for land therewith and took that man abroad aboard

00:48:28.240 then koth sigurd as the song says so now we're looking at the difference between the story and

00:48:36.380 the song. There is poetic meter in the song or the versed meter. And they're quoting this. And a lot

00:48:52.920 of these stories will hold these because that's the origin. The story has died. The poem has been

00:49:01.040 made and so then afterwards the story is reignited from the poem um and

00:49:13.520 uh then quote sigurd as the song says tell me this oh nicker

00:49:20.560 since full well thou knowest fate of god's good and ill of mankind

00:49:26.480 what best our hap forsake when amid the battle about us sweeps the sword's edge.

00:49:38.080 And Kothnikar, he said,

00:49:41.780 Good are many tokens, if thereof men wotted when the swords are sweeping.

00:49:49.420 Fair fellow deem I, the dark-winged raven in war to weapon wielder.

00:49:56.480 The second good thing, when abroad thou goest, for the long road well arrayed, good if thou seest two men standing, fane of fane, within the forecourt.

00:50:12.620 So if you see two warriors in the front of high fane.

00:50:19.900 a third good thing is a wolf howling abroad under ash bows good hap shalt thou have

00:50:31.440 dealing with the helms with helm staves if thou seest these fair before thee no man in fight

00:50:40.960 his face shall turn against the moon's sister low late shining for he winneth battle

00:50:51.300 who best beholdeth through the midmost sword play and the sloping ranks best shapeth

00:50:59.600 so what omens are going to lead to an understanding of victory hearing wolves howl

00:51:07.740 Seeing ravens follow, or well-famed men in the front of the ranks.

00:51:19.000 And then through the midmost of swordplay and the sloping ranks that shapeth them.

00:51:23.800 So the idea of the formations of both sides, much like a chevron as a good form for battle.

00:51:40.480 If you see these things, these are all good signs of victory.

00:51:47.040 So some of these are mystical and extraordinary, and others are more or less like lending to what one should do in order to gain victory.

00:52:04.440 Great is the trouble of the foot, ill-tripping, when arrayed for the fight thou farest for on both sides about.

00:52:12.640 Are the desir by thee? Again, the maidens of fate, our ancestral, or possibly referring to the nornir, or all of them, you know,

00:52:30.440 So he kind of lists a myriad of things, the usage of different formations, making sure

00:52:57.680 you're on level ground making sure that the ds here are you know not ill-fated against you

00:53:04.400 make sure that every warrior is cleaned and combed um we can see a lot of this paralleling perhaps

00:53:12.660 in the japanese um samurai book the hage kure he even says it is very important for every warrior

00:53:22.340 to take care of their countenance, even at the eve of battle. And I find that poetic.

00:53:33.200 You can see warrior cultures really do recognize this and eating well of meat, though, again,

00:53:42.520 we've spoken about how meat as a word was meant meal. It didn't specifically mean meat. So that's

00:53:51.360 not something that you would want to go in and say, yeah, this is a religious confirmation that

00:53:58.560 we should all be carnivore or take on the carnivore diet. That's not exactly the case.

00:54:04.900 Meat meaning meal. No doubt having a large amount of meat and cream.

00:54:11.060 Also, not just eat something, but eat good. Like you'll notice they are preparing

00:54:19.160 they're preparing for one of two outcomes they're preparing for victory or they're preparing for

00:54:26.460 death and they're celebrating they're going to battle well-fed on a good celebratory meal a lot

00:54:33.900 of folks didn't have meat all of the time sometimes you had bread and some kind of

00:54:39.740 porridge or whatever you had you're like no have yourself a good meal splurge go out get yourself

00:54:45.200 steak or whatever get your hair combed right wear your best war gear go out there you know shining

00:54:53.900 and your best self because this is your moment this is your time to shine you're you know you

00:55:02.340 are going out to become a hero you will either be celebrated in the halls with your with your

00:55:07.560 brothers in life or with your brothers in death but now's the time well and there's another

00:55:13.820 interesting thing about all of this so the well actually let me just read to that part and then

00:55:20.140 i'll i will state it because it's only a couple of sentences it says that after he speaks of this

00:55:29.420 then the storm abated and on they fared till they came a land in the realm of hunting sun

00:55:36.220 And then Fjolnir, who is Hnikar, vanishes away. So the connection that Fjolnir and Hnikar is Lord Odin, and he's doing kind of a preparation check, a kind of shoring up, seeing where this young man is in his headspace.

00:55:59.760 Um, ultimately though, it's worth noting the storm that was raised to slow them down, causing them to seek refuge was probably raised by Lord Odin in disguise.

00:56:16.760 I think a lot of people get into a thought process that, especially if they're coming from Christianity, and Christianity says, oh, you know, these people had a God of this, a God of rain, a God of rocks, a God of, they try to oversimplify.

00:56:38.440 No, our holy divine beings are divine beings, and there are primordial forces at play here in the middle in the in the material. And the gods have the ability to affect them, perhaps some better than others. But the idea that there is Lord Odin creating a storm for the sake of this moment.

00:57:08.440 would not be there would be nobody in the audience going i thought that thor was the god of storms

00:57:15.480 um no that'd be like you know you see spawn out mowing his lawn like wait you're only allowed to

00:57:22.440 talk about lore on vns how are you talking about you know um real people do lots of things

00:57:30.600 real entities real beings can do a great many things there may be things that they are most

00:57:39.480 noted for or that they are particularly powerful at or they choose to display their power through

00:57:48.340 there may be symbols that are associated with them but our gods are it's going to say three

00:57:58.000 dimensional but our gods are four dimensional our gods are well-rounded and multi-dimensional

00:58:05.320 they're not two-dimensional things they're not Thor equals strong Odin equals wise

00:58:15.680 Tyr equals justice like no those associations are fine and if if you're brand new and that helps you

00:58:25.120 start down paths to understand them. That's, that's wonderful. If you're a young child and

00:58:32.320 that's how you get your first, you know, something to hold on to about who these gods are. Amazing.

00:58:40.200 Great. But that's, that's where we start to understand the Aesir. It's not where the end

00:58:46.860 of that understanding is. Yeah. I remember with, when, uh, Thorshoff opened up and

00:58:54.100 we were utilizing the orange the burnt orange or autumnal orange as a color and no red goats

00:59:03.420 right there needs to be bears and they're freaking out

00:59:09.000 these connections are cultural um some of them are uniquely cross cultures the i think the the

00:59:22.580 you know the araya that went into um what is now india and the fact that uh their lord of thunder

00:59:31.460 who is indra is red in skin and our uh lord thor has a red beard i think there is some

00:59:42.820 uh relevance and consideration towards um those cultural kind of connected connections and they're

00:59:50.180 good sometimes to re-establish or to reiterate but so i'd like to say this too um

00:59:59.620 nobody until modern times with extreme hair dye or less they were covered in the gore of their foes

01:00:06.740 has red hair or a red beard that's orange um but yeah that's just a

01:00:16.260 please don't must we have a tendency towards

01:00:24.420 this or that we like to uh be dualistic in everything we do because it simplifies everything

01:00:33.000 and it's easy and in a way it's intellectually lazy

01:00:35.780 we're not criticizing that if you were to make an altar to thor in your house and you wanted it to

01:00:44.260 be read and you wanted to have goats that's awesome that's a really good place to start

01:00:48.560 if you had that i would think it was amazing and i'd tell you so but if your little girl

01:00:55.120 wants an altar to thor and it's pink and it has chickadees that's not wrong that's not

01:01:03.280 bad we have no reason to think that uh also thor dislikes the chirping of the chickadee

01:01:09.180 I mean, there's a lot of different, there's a lot of different things.

01:01:14.920 You have a favorite food.

01:01:16.160 It doesn't mean you want to eat it every night.

01:01:17.880 There's dimensionality.

01:01:19.380 So I think we're beating it to death, but it's important to realize that you can, Thor is wise.

01:01:28.520 Odin is strong.

01:01:31.560 Tyr is brave.

01:01:32.920 um you know

01:01:36.520 your there is a mighty warrior

01:01:41.140 um all of these things are true that may not be the thing they're most noted for

01:01:49.100 but it doesn't negate that

01:01:51.640 while i'm while we're just talking and we'll finish this uh this chapter here in just a sec

01:01:59.060 But Githia McNallan besought that I speak to you guys about the amazing work that folks did at Odenshoff.

01:02:09.540 We had a massive overhaul of the septic system that had not been had any maintenance or anything done to it since 1938, I believe.

01:02:24.480 so it is uh it certainly do uh it was janky it is no longer janky it's awesome now uh because

01:02:33.180 a handful of guys with a lot of hard work and the very generous donation of a particular odens

01:02:40.560 hoff donor were able to get that done our hoff steward uh dan odem put in a lot of time a lot

01:02:48.100 of effort and achieved amazing results to get this all done and taken care of for our summer

01:02:54.960 mall celebration later this month. So we are very appreciative. If you went there, there was,

01:03:01.840 you know, I don't want to, I want to say the trenches were like six foot deep. And then there

01:03:09.900 was a you know 10 foot square six foot deep hole or so to put the tank in and a lot of work to get

01:03:19.580 done we also had um due to a storm there we had a tree fall that took out a big chunk of fencing

01:03:25.200 that was replaced these guys really worked very very hard and did something amazing there and

01:03:32.540 It's not a one-time thing. These guys have taken amazing care of Odin's Hoff over the past, it's funny, years start flowing together for me, but over the time they've been doing it, the progress they've made in the last couple of years on it has been tremendous.

01:03:55.120 it's always been a very special place it has never been better taken care of or more beautiful than

01:04:02.480 it is currently due to these guys efforts so thank you guys we appreciate you very much

01:04:08.880 that's it it's fine take us back all right so we are now on the on the cusp of a great battle

01:04:16.560 in the hundings land um as lord othen himself has visited sigurd and just spoke

01:04:25.200 to him in the poetics to ensure his head is in the right place and um

01:04:35.680 the storm abates and they fare on when they get there their traveler vanishes

01:04:42.800 then they let loose fire and sword and slew men and burnt their abodes and did waste all before

01:04:54.340 them so in essence they start making their way into the land through marauding i i do find it

01:05:02.820 interesting though they they do just state that they're they're slaying men in their abodes

01:05:07.360 There isn't a heavy emphasis that they're slaying women and children.

01:05:12.660 You could say, oh, it's probably implied, but certainly by the story itself, it's not a heavy emphasis.

01:05:23.140 The idea, again, is fighting other warriors.

01:05:27.500 And they lay waste before them.

01:05:30.020 And a great company of folk fled before the face of them to Lingi, the king.

01:05:37.360 And they tell him that men of war are in their land and are faring with such rage and fury that the like has never been heard of. 0.98

01:05:47.300 And that the sons of King Hunding had no great forecast in that they said they would never fear from the Volsungs anymore. 0.97

01:05:58.660 So the word is spreading. 1.00

01:06:00.700 Somebody's been told the reason why they're here is for revenge, for the slaying of the Volsiles.

01:06:09.680 For here was to come Sigurd, the son of Sigmund, and he is the captain and the leader of this army. 0.83

01:06:19.080 So King Lingist lets send the war message all throughout his realm and has no will to flee,

01:06:26.460 but summons to him all such who would give him aid.

01:06:31.580 So he came against Sigurd with a great army

01:06:35.000 and he and his brothers with him

01:06:37.440 and an exceedingly fierce fight befell upon them.

01:06:42.160 Many a spear and many an arrow might men see.

01:06:46.020 There.

01:06:56.460 All right, so looks like this might be a recurring issue this evening.

01:07:15.340 I'm trying to find exactly where he's at.

01:07:19.400 so i will uh read to the end of the chapter and then we'll we'll go to some questions

01:07:27.580 so king lingi lets in the war message all throughout his realm and has no will to flee

01:07:37.700 but summons to him all such as would give him aid so he came against sigurd with a great army

01:07:44.960 he and his brothers with him and an exceedingly fierce fight befell

01:07:49.400 many a spear and many an arrow might men see they are raised aloft axes hand hard driven shields

01:07:57.720 cleft and bernies torn helmets were shivered skulls split a twain and many a man fell to cold earth

01:08:08.600 and and now when the fight had long uh had long durd in such wise siga goes forth before the

01:08:16.680 banners and he has the good sword grom in his hand he smites down both men and horses and goes

01:08:24.560 through the thickest of the throng with both arms red with blood to the shoulder and folk shrank

01:08:31.760 back before him wherever he went nor would either helm or bernie hold before him and no man deemed

01:08:40.360 he had ever seen his like so a long while the battle lasted many a man was slain and furious

01:08:47.860 was the onset till at last it befell even as seldom comes to hand when a land army falls on

01:08:55.320 that do what so they might not was brought about but so many men fell of the sons of hunting

01:09:02.260 that the tale of them may not be told.

01:09:06.520 And now, whereas Sigurd was among the foremost,

01:09:11.200 came the sons of Handing against him. 0.91

01:09:13.560 And Sigurd smote therewith at Lingyi the king 0.96

01:09:17.020 and clave him down, both helm and head and male-clad body. 0.90

01:09:22.980 And thereafter he smote Hjord, his brother atwain, 0.96

01:09:28.840 and then slew all the other sons of Handing. 0.98

01:09:32.260 who were yet alive and the more part of their folk with all now home goes sigurd with fair victory

01:09:40.340 won and plenteous wealth and great honor which he had gotten to him in this journey

01:09:47.220 and feasts were made for him against he came back to the realm but when sigurd had been at home but

01:09:55.380 But a little came Reion to talk with him and said,

01:10:00.060 Be like thou wilt now have goodwill to bow down Fafnir's crest, according to thy word plighted,

01:10:08.520 since thou hast revenged thy father and the others of thy kin.

01:10:14.660 Sigurd answered, That will we hold to, even as we have promised, nor did it ever fall from our memory.

01:10:22.540 That's going to take us to chapter 18

01:10:25.720 And we have the return

01:10:27.740 Of our

01:10:29.440 Of our missing

01:10:33.120 Missing co-host

01:10:34.260 I'm really sorry guys again

01:10:36.560 You know it seems to be swift

01:10:39.400 I made that for tomorrow

01:10:41.020 So yeah I just

01:10:44.340 Sorry

01:10:48.260 But seems to just

01:10:50.440 Go out enough

01:10:51.820 and then i can come back in but all right so um again these descriptions are really cool

01:11:02.540 i think the description of this battle in particular was cool

01:11:08.780 shoulders bloody up to the shoulder which is awesome um

01:11:13.340 clove so he cut two of the we cut the king and the king's brother both in twain

01:11:24.560 i picture the one split straight down the middle skull to skull the crotch and the other one i

01:11:32.040 picked i picture getting chopped in half at the waist just because it adds variety it doesn't

01:11:37.500 specify um but yeah some of the the imagery and stuff in this is is very powerful uh very visceral

01:11:47.900 and uh the sagas all of them that i can recall off the top of my head have portions that are

01:12:01.740 just so powerful in their imagery and I think this one in particular has a you know a disproportionate

01:12:11.820 heaping of those to where it's a really fun read and it's

01:12:16.680 um it's just such an exciting piece and I'm glad we're going through it together

01:12:22.280 yeah it uh and also importantly the the purpose of this it closes a loop loops are so important

01:12:33.240 in arian stories even in ones that are semi-mythical um and it it's uh i love using

01:12:43.120 this word it galvanizes our hero into a and i use that in the welding term um uh it solidifies him

01:12:54.800 it establishes him as no longer being simply a youth or just an inexperienced warrior

01:13:04.000 he's rolling forth now on real combat um he's commanding army the army and not only is he

01:13:16.880 commanding the king's army but he's you know he's leading from the front he's in the heat

01:13:21.840 he's in the thickest part of battle he's there and a uh a big part of that in ancient and medieval

01:13:33.860 combat was seeing and being aware that your your lord whoever it was be it a king be it a prince

01:13:43.180 be it a general whatever the case might be that they were there and you'd fight all the harder

01:13:49.100 near that banner or near where they were at that just their presence on the field near you conveyed

01:13:55.100 a bit of their luck and the tide of the battle would often you know surge and fall with what

01:14:03.580 happened with that banner oftentimes in the medieval period you see a king's banner go down and

01:14:09.500 is done people called to rap stop what you're doing everybody went home because often

01:14:17.820 struggles between nations were struggles between monarchs writ large so you were fighting for your

01:14:23.980 monarchs right to a certain thing or not and when they fell that was kind of the cessation of

01:14:29.980 hostilities so that's really important that he was that kind of a leader that was there in the thick

01:14:36.620 of the fray um also while we're on it before we get to the next thing i just want to answer a

01:14:41.340 question uh we have somebody ask what is the current record for the biggest vns donation

01:14:47.820 So, I asked Nick on the back end, and I recall this too, and Goethe Rob Stam was feeling

01:14:57.260 particularly generous one night, and he agreed to match the total donations that we got in

01:15:05.560 that show.

01:15:07.860 So, he ended up donating $700 that night, which was awesome and very much appreciated.

01:15:14.980 That is the biggest single donation I recall.

01:15:19.680 And I think the episode, I want to say about a month back was the biggest single gaining episode where we generated the most money per episode.

01:15:40.680 But I'd have to critically think about what week that was.

01:15:44.080 I want to say it might have even been the last time Svon and I were on.

01:15:49.160 If not, it could have been the one right before that.

01:15:55.300 But that's as I recall it.

01:15:57.220 And again, I appreciate, we appreciate any and all of your guys' donations.

01:16:04.860 You all have been extremely generous and continue to be so.

01:16:08.300 So not only do we appreciate it, but I am fully confident that our gods appreciate it as well.

01:16:17.560 That's something to realize.

01:16:19.120 Your donation isn't just a donation to the Astro Folk Assembly and our stuff we're trying to accomplish.

01:16:26.420 It is also a donation and an offering to our gods and a form of worshiping them and glorifying them by establishing these Hoffs and by furthering their cause here in Midgard.

01:16:39.780 So we appreciate you guys. Thank you.

01:16:42.740 Svon, if you'd get us started on chapter 18.

01:16:46.280 So, after establishing that Sigurd is now a warrior, it immediately cuts to the building plot of him facing off against the dragon.

01:17:02.320 So, chapter 18 is the slaying of the worm Fafnir.

01:17:07.820 so it's one to be presumed that he returns back to the land perhaps celebrating his victory and

01:17:17.420 all of that but it immediately cuts to him and his mentor and um kind of been left into

01:17:27.500 tutelage under

01:17:30.280 Rayen, the

01:17:32.060 smith.

01:17:34.300 And

01:17:34.640 again, on the

01:17:38.140 I can't remember which church

01:17:40.200 it was, but there was a stave

01:17:42.200 church that's famous for having

01:17:44.040 the carved

01:17:45.680 wooden

01:17:47.960 images of

01:17:50.420 the story of Sigurd

01:17:52.080 specifically around

01:17:54.000 the smithing and the slaying

01:17:56.640 of Fafnir, and some people might be familiar with it.

01:18:01.600 It is quite a known, but it shows Sigurd holding the blade with tongs

01:18:10.560 while Reion is forging and welding the blade back together.

01:18:17.680 Heilestat. Heilestat, Dave Kierke.

01:18:21.520 you beat me by about one point or 2.2 seconds i got it might be the first time but i will i will

01:18:31.280 take the win yeah i actually figured nick would be on faster than you um i decided

01:18:40.660 i thought nick would beat me to it also and it's worth noting that stave churches uh though they

01:18:49.880 were christian were not a wholly separate thing the design the structure was built more towards

01:19:01.160 perhaps the specifications that were asked but they those buildings during the conversion times

01:19:08.860 were wholly or totally of the ousted through mindset.

01:19:19.040 I love what you did here.

01:19:20.820 So I didn't know that we were going on this journey,

01:19:23.780 but let me wax on this here for a second.

01:19:34.620 There is, I don't know.

01:19:38.860 curiosity I think amongst everyone as to what a hoth in the viking age might have looked like

01:19:47.560 and a lot of people have you know different ideas on that because our ancestors in the north

01:19:55.180 didn't build a lot with stone they ended up building with wood and wood

01:20:00.940 has a tendency to, you know, to rot and to not withstand the thousand years between the Viking

01:20:14.460 age and now, you know, I don't know, almost 1200 years between Viking age and now. So

01:20:21.420 we don't really know. There's a lot of post holes, places to where people kind of get a rough

01:20:29.260 outline of some dimensionality um certainly there's religious practice that went on in

01:20:39.100 dual purpose you know lord's halls that would serve as hoffs and halls we also know of special um

01:20:51.980 cult houses as i've heard them referred to archaeologically that are you know small

01:20:59.260 buildings that would be a half but one thing that

01:21:05.500 a conclusion that a lot of us who have pondered this and looked into it come to is

01:21:13.660 there was a continuity of religiosity in europe so when christianity would come in

01:21:21.740 in very often they wouldn't like destroy and disregard holy places but they would take them

01:21:31.340 they would rechristen them as it were into a a Christian uh into a church or a Basilica or a

01:21:39.080 shrine or whatever the case might be um and they did that a lot and that was a common thing even

01:21:47.120 would destroy them they would build on the same spot because we've always understood inherently

01:21:53.520 that occupying holy ground has power to it yes specifically to the religion that's doing it but

01:22:02.800 also generally to it is a storehouse of powerful energy it is a place that is increasingly set

01:22:10.960 aside from the mundane and has a power it has a psychological power on the people of the area

01:22:18.080 it has a numinous power in the universe and it has a religiously particular power so

01:22:29.440 we see a very

01:22:30.560 unique difference in um continental european churches of the time in the state of kirka in uh

01:22:43.440 in scandinavia they look really different now there's certainly elements of their

01:22:50.080 build style that is influenced by um like christian cathedral or church layout in a way

01:22:58.880 but you'll notice in the ones that are existent today which you know were built after the viking

01:23:09.320 age but not long after some of them they'll have just like the one we spoke about where

01:23:16.100 they'll have these overtly also true motifs in them stories and elements from our lore specifically

01:23:25.820 and if not, you know, the art style being.

01:23:49.280 We're back.

01:23:51.140 All right. 0.98

01:23:51.600 with Ausatru cosmology and imagery and not Christian imagery, you're certainly not the

01:23:57.040 main motif of the design. So many of us, cutting to the chase, many of us very much believe,

01:24:03.560 and I think it's the case, that the Stavekirka is the transitional stage or the missing link

01:24:13.980 between an ausitru hoff and a christian church they probably represent the highest development

01:24:22.780 of hoff building and then repurposed slightly image wise to to match you know christian

01:24:30.540 sensibilities with you know you have a crucifix here or a saint reliquary here or there but

01:24:37.260 But and then from there, the development of more in line with the continent, Scandinavian cathedrals and other things.

01:24:47.340 So the Stavekirka is, to my mind, the highest development of where our ancestors left off in the building of Hoffs before the blade of Alcetru was was broken at that time.

01:25:03.360 And they're just really cool.

01:25:04.460 so yeah whatever your thoughts they are undisputedly really really cool there's not a

01:25:12.980 there's not a case to be made that they're not really cool i think a lot of people just reject

01:25:17.260 it simply when they're in the mindset of ah christianity must must reject but they don't

01:25:23.800 take into consideration all of the connective tissue to our ancestors who were ousted through

01:25:32.760 you know going there being a part of building um these churches uh despite

01:25:39.980 just lived in the woods and rubbed ash on themselves and wore roadkill on their shoulders

01:25:47.960 and chicken bones around their neck and you know somehow tied some antlers to their head to run

01:25:54.120 around and do their uh their religious ceremony because well kai long told me so

01:25:59.680 Yeah, and at the same time, you know, a lot of these people who were traitors against their people by taking the foreign faith, most of them were not, they didn't go to Rome or they didn't go to Israel or Palestine or whatever it was called at the time to learn their faith.

01:26:27.560 No, they were doing a lot of this. And so every time they did, they were adding their own, that which was brought up with them. So certainly after conversion, the first century after conversion was wrought with much of the Ausatru or the old faith mindset.

01:26:54.720 That's when you see a lot of Christians harken back to, you know, these Christians were warriors. 0.83

01:27:00.600 And it's like, yeah, most of them were newly converted and were still holding on to the ethos of the generations before them, not the ethos of Christianity proper. 0.68

01:27:15.960 It was the lingering and slowly ebbing heroism of their forefathers, who were not Christian.

01:27:26.440 Yursala Borg is what they called Jerusalem. 0.97

01:27:31.720 Fun fact. 0.83

01:27:36.300 I think the city of Jerusalem, I think Yursala was their closest noise to Jerusalem. 0.92

01:27:45.960 but yeah so yeah I just opened that up with mentioning about that while we're on a strange

01:27:58.740 I don't know while we're while we're deviating from the text we got a really interesting question

01:28:04.660 that I wanted to answer because it's exciting to me um in the chat what is the AFA's views on

01:28:12.900 dolmens. First, Svahn, do you have any thoughts or feelings or views or insight for us on

01:28:21.240 dolmens? Wait, let me clarify dolmens. Dolmens are monuments or... I need a little bit more

01:28:30.220 because again, I'm not, it's not activating my brain.

01:28:40.300 Dolmens are, well, here's, okay.

01:28:43.260 So if I describe them to you,

01:28:47.460 I will influence what you say your view on them is.

01:28:55.540 So I'll go ahead and hit this one first.

01:28:58.280 so because i have i have cool experience that i'm just kind of excited to share about is this

01:29:03.480 they were in sweden right they're through so throughout northern europe very specifically

01:29:12.120 in scandinavia a lot of places and the experience that i have with them is in denmark so

01:29:18.360 So, all right, in, go back in the time machine and figure this out.

01:29:30.300 I want to say in 2014, I could be wrong on the year, it could be 2013, but I want to

01:29:36.220 say 2014 um our founder Stephen McNallan myself Sheila and a couple of friends of ours went on

01:29:49.840 an AFA trip to visit our membership in Denmark and we were we were tremendously blessed and

01:30:01.600 Because we had, we had tour guides that had put together, I say tour guides, we had local

01:30:12.160 members who lovingly put together an itinerary of like, how can we show these guys the most

01:30:22.120 amazing things in the amount of time that they're here?

01:30:27.240 we i mean it was it was stuffed and i talked about some of it i could talk about more of it

01:30:32.440 in a later time but like we had to get together after the fact and write stuff down and compare

01:30:38.520 stories because every day was filled with six or seven different once in a lifetime experiences

01:30:45.800 that were amazing but one of the things we noticed as we drove around their country was

01:30:50.920 there's all these little you know little bumps out in the field little unnat obviously not

01:30:58.600 naturally occurring little little mini hills out in the middle of flat terrain all over the place

01:31:04.440 because denmark's flat so there's all these little hills out there and we're trying to figure them

01:31:10.800 out whatever and there are some that you might see if you were to google it that are dolmens

01:31:18.740 that are not covered in earth that are um like

01:31:26.660 big stone

01:31:30.500 chambers for lack of a better term when i say big they got big rocks but they're you know

01:31:38.840 maybe I don't know maybe 10 foot by five foot interior that stands maybe you know four and a

01:31:52.280 half five foot tall so not not like massive things but these uh these chambers and people

01:32:00.500 would talk about them as if they're they're burial chambers in their tombs but bodies aren't found

01:32:07.700 them um there's not that's not typically what's you know found in them so there's thoughts about

01:32:17.620 that uh when i went over there the kind of local consensus was the idea that they were a place of

01:32:28.020 of transition where the dead were placed for a time period

01:32:34.660 there was a process that occurred and then they were removed and whatever was done with them was

01:32:41.300 done now for a lot of the time period of our ancestors cremation was a thing one of the things

01:32:51.140 we know early is you know creation and cremation remains in urns was a definitive factor in some

01:32:58.820 of the early migrations of our people but there could have been ashes you know scattered in these

01:33:04.100 places over time that could be a real thing but we're certainly not finding you know uh

01:33:13.860 dead bodies in these places or tombs so they're really interesting anyways you go and the vast

01:33:19.860 majority of these things are just these big you know these hills in the middle of people's fields

01:33:26.180 that folks kind of don't mess with um but we were so we're driving around you know we'd see these

01:33:36.820 casually all over the place and one day a couple days into our trip we pulled out we're in the

01:33:44.420 middle of somebody's farm on this roadway and they stop and i'm like oh okay we need to i guess

01:33:49.380 re-figure out directions or figure out a plan or whatever and a couple of our hosts disappear off

01:33:56.500 into this field and uh you know they go off and do whatever they're doing and we're talking and

01:34:05.780 we're talking and figuring it out whatever and they come back and uh

01:34:11.700 you know they they point out that there's a dolmen over there in this field and they're like

01:34:20.340 so do you guys do you guys want to go inside and we're huh like

01:34:28.100 i mean there's only one answer to that question like yes we want to go inside but i mean amazed

01:34:34.500 that that was a thing and apparently um while this gentleman who was ever farmland this was was uh

01:34:42.100 doing something a number of years back or whatever a piece of equipment had like nicked the the

01:34:49.380 whatever the closing, you know, entranceway, the portal stone or whatever was, knocked it off.

01:34:55.480 And so it was open. And so this next part isn't going to make a lot of sense, but it's how it

01:35:05.400 happened. So I mean, I'm giving you the honest recollection as I recall it. They went up there

01:35:13.880 and they um set up like because there's all of these and again my geography or my geology fails

01:35:24.980 me on what this is i don't know if you call it slate or what you call it but there's a lot of

01:35:30.360 like flat stones there so this is built up over these flat stones and it's irregular because it's

01:35:37.440 you know an ancient stone thing so there's all these little ledges so they put these little um

01:35:42.860 like tea light candles throughout this place and and had them lit and prepared it for us

01:35:49.700 and they were very respectful they hung back and let us kind of enter first and

01:35:58.800 uh sheila was the first one to enter this this thing and this one was set up to where there was

01:36:09.600 I'd say, you know, maybe a five or six foot channel to get in it, like a little five or six foot tunnel before you got in the main body of it.

01:36:18.840 mentioned before it's you know maybe maybe 10 foot maybe 12 foot long by five or six foot deep

01:36:31.560 and i don't know about five foot tall maybe to where you could like squat walk around in there 0.91

01:36:39.800 but you couldn't stand up um anyways so sheila goes to to go in there and she had to move this

01:36:47.800 um these cobwebs or this overgrown moss or stuff aside to get in it now i know people had already

01:36:54.200 been in there and lit stuff so i don't know if it fell back down over the top of it and she had to

01:36:58.040 move it out of the way i think that's probably what the case was but she moved this aside and

01:37:03.560 these black moths flew out which was really interesting to me so anyways we went in there

01:37:10.840 and it was amazing and it was beautiful with these you know tea lights lit in there and went in

01:37:17.800 And just trying to take it in.

01:37:24.400 And then we wanted to sit there and take it in for a minute and just be in that space.

01:37:32.740 And while we were in there, our friend, we had asked him to to Galder while we're in there.

01:37:42.240 We wanted to do Galder while we're in there.

01:37:45.440 and the the danes aren't really familiar with that that's not a part of the practice that

01:37:52.800 they're very used to but everyone was you know willing we sat down and we all gauldered uh

01:37:57.920 berkano and we gauldered berkano in there um for the for the womb and in in a way this was us

01:38:09.760 entering into the womb of the earth and so we're in this this chamber and we're

01:38:16.560 gathering and it was very powerful and then the tea lights like there's not wind in there it's

01:38:25.360 a shelter and it's underground but tea lights were doing stuff that they weren't asked to do

01:38:34.000 they were you know flickering and doing things and fell off the ledges and stuff was going on

01:38:43.440 and like i said it was a really powerful experience so we're in there we we've done

01:38:48.160 this and then we had to go back out into the world and it was very much a ceremony of rebirth

01:38:58.160 so we shared this very powerful experience there many of us had come to you know the homelands of

01:39:07.040 our ancestors and we'd gone into this womb that's also a tomb in the earth and we had to go back

01:39:17.520 out through this canal into the world so we had to go back out through this little tunnel

01:39:23.200 end of the world and you look out and your eyes are adjusting and you see you know slowly things

01:39:28.940 start to reveal themselves to you so first you see you know the the chamber on like the the tunnel

01:39:34.720 on the way out and the overhanging moss and whatever and then you see a little bit further

01:39:39.540 and you see you know grain fields and this you know very ancient expanse of land and then as

01:39:46.580 you look further you can see some power lines way out in the distance and a highway and more

01:39:52.900 and more of you know the world as we know it as we emerged back out into the world and it was really

01:40:03.700 it's very powerful and i think that the moths emerging from the cocoon and and flying out when

01:40:16.080 came in the entrance was a really beautiful foreshadowing to that um but it's you know

01:40:22.800 one of the most profound experiences of my life but that was in a dolman over there

01:40:29.760 when you google it the picture that comes up is much more similar to another um dolman that

01:40:35.760 we were at that was actually in the midst of a stone circle and we were treated to a ritual

01:40:43.360 by one of their gothar who was a very old man i wish i knew the man's name right now but a very

01:40:50.560 old man he had just had a heart surgery and he wasn't supposed to leave the hospital but when

01:40:56.920 he heard that steve mcnalen was there he needed to come take that opportunity to do blow with us

01:41:05.100 this is in the fall and uh i think it was in august and so we did a fray faxy in the this

01:41:15.180 circling this dolmen in a stone circle in this grain field where you'd watch the wind make the

01:41:22.940 grain dance and like waves the sea of grain and if you look a little bit further this guy had a

01:41:29.580 pin of a couple of horses and the horses were dancing while we were in the ritual

01:41:35.500 and uh went in there and our our host was um or our guide for this a woman named yestina

01:41:47.180 uh she was a woman who had devoted a lot of her time when she wasn't doing her job you know 0.98

01:41:56.460 whatever she did to make her living she would spend time finding these off the beaten path

01:42:03.660 sacred sites and sleeping there and like really being a caretaker of these sacred sites

01:42:10.620 and she was a very and i i will forever be grateful to her if she was here right now

01:42:19.980 i would give her a hug she may or may not like it she may hit me that'd be okay 0.87

01:42:25.020 but she was like almost abrasive and a very um 0.97

01:42:35.980 yeah very uh

01:42:41.100 assertive woman in a lot of ways it was so nice because this gothi was her mentor

01:42:49.660 and all of a sudden she was like a little girl she was just quiet and so respectful

01:42:55.980 of this man because she had to help like do the ritual and translate for us because he only spoke

01:43:01.900 uh dansk and he she'd like help hold him up as he went around the circle because like

01:43:09.820 he's in his sweats and his hospital armband and stuff like he

01:43:13.820 literally got out of the hospital bed to be there for us and he did this beautiful ritual and it was

01:43:20.480 really special but that was around one of the more all the dirt had been moved away and it was

01:43:26.360 just stone stacked upon one another and it was a little bit smaller one but yeah my afa's view

01:43:33.200 which I guess you know I will position as as my view is that they're a chamber of transformation

01:43:42.500 before the final um disposition of of the remains where the the soul can you know travel to beyond

01:43:55.040 the veil in in a sacred fashion and then the remains can be uh dealt with so that's what I

01:44:04.580 think Svon I don't know if you have any thoughts or anything to add on that

01:44:09.680 Yeah, I think that these are, I'm a believer that the migrations of megalith builders in Europe were actually of the same stock that would eventually become the Aryan folk of the Bronze Age and the Iron Age.

01:44:34.100 and um that's kind of lent to when we we can't differentiate any sort of um genetic difference

01:44:43.680 and so it's usually stocked up the megalith builders were just completely wiped out and

01:44:49.500 um i think that there was more blending and they were so close to each other that there wasn't a

01:44:56.580 lot of differentiation but we see these whether we're talking about the european ones or worldwide

01:45:03.140 Not all of them are tombs. A lot of them have artwork, which again would be viewed, seen with purpose. So that makes me lend to the idea of their ritual purpose.

01:45:18.460 And much like a bridge as a reference of crossing over, I think the migratory people settling down in an area and making a huge concerted job to construct something out of stone like this is a sign of people settling in and utilizing them.

01:45:44.680 there's grave goods but there's also goods like weapons and and other things so having them was

01:45:51.520 also kind of a cross between a uh proto burial mound or uh proto uh barrow and a proto hoth

01:46:04.260 I think that they had a cross affiliation because, again, the divine is deeply connected to death and ancestral worship.

01:46:17.460 And no doubt take a lot of manpower to build a lot of these, especially if you added the dirt on top of it,

01:46:27.700 or perhaps the dirt was added later to facilitate them looking more like barrows.

01:46:34.260 But we can see, even in the story that we're reading, a barrow is constructed for imprisonment, so I think that these buildings may have had numerous purposes.

01:46:49.240 I think, too, possibly as religious sites for specifically religious people or, say, people practicing of a higher level, you know, the men or women of magic, perhaps people could refer to them as shamans of sort, going there and perhaps even residing.

01:47:19.240 or um being placed within and then perhaps coming out later as a rebirth i think that there's more

01:47:27.480 of a symbolic meaning behind these these uh structures but i think they eventually turned

01:47:33.060 more into barrow mounts and were kind of more classified strictly to the dead um as the bronze

01:47:40.200 age and eventually the iron age settled in um but yes that's truly interesting i i couldn't

01:47:48.780 remember when you said it right off the bat I was immediately thinking like a stone monument

01:47:53.700 and then I just had to take a quick glance and I was like oh oh no no no so yeah I think there

01:47:59.980 was just they were multifunctional nobody does that much work just for it to be forgotten

01:48:05.640 nobody decorates a lot of things simply for it to never be looked upon um and that lends to me

01:48:13.040 thinking that multiple reasons they might have been utilized. And again, what you were saying,

01:48:20.420 if it's a transitional place where they place the dead and then move them somewhere else would

01:48:25.520 explain why there's not a lot of, you know, grave bones and things of that nature. Or the other

01:48:38.680 thing that we have to consider too is even after um changings of religions or ideals that it was

01:48:47.640 known these were special places and people could have probably placed their dead in there long

01:48:53.780 after their full intended use was understood so we will definitely cover more material tonight

01:49:03.220 and we will make sure we cover some but i it's worth doing this here because the best time to do it

01:49:17.780 anthropologists or scholars or whatever because it's their discipline study time periods

01:49:25.860 or if they're studying a culture it is the viking age or it is the vendal period or it is

01:49:32.260 is the Celtic period in Denmark, or perhaps it is the funnel beaker culture, or it's,

01:49:40.260 so they break things up into an artificial distinction that isn't necessarily there.

01:49:49.740 It's an academic distinction and not a fundamental distinction.

01:49:56.260 Nobody tapped, you know,

01:50:01.700 Ragnar on the shoulder and said,

01:50:04.980 all right, heads up, tomorrow this Viking Age is done.

01:50:08.580 We're going to call it early medieval.

01:50:10.420 So just heads up, just so you got a heads up.

01:50:12.900 All right, cool.

01:50:14.340 Hey, guys, Viking Age is done.

01:50:16.240 That's a wrap.

01:50:16.980 It's early medieval.

01:50:18.160 That's not how it worked.

01:50:20.100 And I'm being silly, but in our minds, 0.77

01:50:23.340 sometimes we fall into that way of thinking.

01:50:25.580 And Ausatru is our gods created us.

01:50:33.400 They shaped us and our world.

01:50:36.920 They are as old as our ancestors exist. 0.97

01:50:41.860 That means they are pre-Ice Age. 1.00

01:50:45.820 Alcetru exists

01:50:51.620 from the moment that Odin

01:50:55.600 and his brothers gave us the gifts of life

01:50:59.060 and will exist infinitely into the future

01:51:04.100 so these

01:51:07.400 sacred places, most of the sacred places

01:51:11.380 you will find in Europe when you go and you visit these things

01:51:14.780 and you want to get into it are not from the viking age at all many things are from the quote

01:51:20.860 unquote celtic period and still others are from the the neolithic or the new stone age period

01:51:28.300 so also true goes back to the very beginning of our folk we don't break it up based on language

01:51:38.060 or based on some anthropological scheme

01:51:41.980 of a certain age or a certain culture

01:51:44.060 because cultures like new species of people

01:51:48.640 aren't just emerging out of nowhere.

01:51:52.360 Our people have a root.

01:51:55.260 Ausatru is that root and follows our people

01:51:57.700 along their development up to including today 0.58

01:52:00.600 and into our descendants.

01:52:03.520 So it's really important not to lock

01:52:05.840 our concept of

01:52:09.520 our people's trough through our gods

01:52:11.440 to a particular period 0.96

01:52:13.100 because the Viking Age

01:52:15.240 in the course of

01:52:16.120 the existence of white people

01:52:18.540 is a very, very small time period 0.53

01:52:21.020 it's a 300 year time period

01:52:23.560 in the course of

01:52:25.020 people that are tens of thousands of years old

01:52:27.420 So Svan, will you take us

01:52:31.500 back to our text?

01:52:34.400 Absolutely

01:52:35.000 So, again, Sigurd is speaking to Rey and he says, now Sigurd and Rey ride up to the heath, a large expanse, a moor and grassy rolling area with hills and rocks.

01:52:55.760 They ride up to the heath along the same path where Fafnir was wont to creep when he fared for water

01:53:05.800 So he travels out of the moors or out of the heath and out of the countryside to come down to an area to drink water

01:53:15.300 And folks say that 30 fathoms was the height of that cliff along which he lay when he drank

01:53:25.260 of the water below. So this again is explaining the length of his neck alone. And you'll notice

01:53:35.900 that there is a huge serpentine connection. Whenever the word drake or dragon, and again

01:53:45.340 more properly worm, is spoken, there is this deep connection of the dragons of the north being seen

01:53:53.760 as wingless and of a large serpent. That's a particularly unflattering

01:54:07.680 image for him to get stuck on. Those of you who are listening by podcast, you guys missing out

01:54:18.940 on a tree. I will take us into this chapter. So chapter 18. Now Sigurd and Reyn ride up

01:54:30.700 the heath along the same way wherein Fafmir was wont to creep. And when he fared to the 0.94

01:54:38.640 water, and folks say that 30 fathoms was the height of that cliff along which he lay when

01:54:45.020 he drank of the water below. Then Sigurd spoke, How sayest thou, Rayim, that this drake 0.57

01:54:56.900 was no greater than other lingworms? Methinks the track of him is marvelously great. Then 0.97

01:55:05.820 Then said Rehom, make thee a hole and sit down therein. 0.70

01:55:14.500 And when as the worm comes to the water, smite him into the heart. 0.95

01:55:21.000 And so do him to his death and win thee great fame thereby.

01:55:26.320 But Sigur said, what will betide me if I be before the...

01:55:32.660 What will it betide me if I be before the blood of the worm?

01:55:39.480 Says Rayan, of what avail to counsel thee if thou art still afraid of everything?

01:55:46.300 Little art thou like thy kin in the stoutness of heart. 0.84

01:55:50.000 Then Sigurd rides right over the heath. 0.99

01:55:53.320 But Rayan gets him gone, sore afeard. 0.99

01:55:58.620 But Sigur fell to digging him a pit 1.00

01:56:04.020 And whilst he was at the work

01:56:06.320 There came to him an old man with a long beard

01:56:09.240 And asked what he wrought there

01:56:11.580 And he told him

01:56:12.840 Then answered the old man and said

01:56:15.660 Thou dost after sorry counsel

01:56:18.260 Rather dig thee many pits

01:56:21.620 And let the blood run therein

01:56:23.720 But sit thee down in one thereof 0.93

01:56:26.460 and so thrust the worm's heart through

01:56:30.560 and therewithal he vanished away

01:56:33.080 but Sigurd made the pits

01:56:35.760 even as it was shown to him

01:56:37.420 now crept the worm down to his place of watering

01:56:41.440 and the earth shook all about him

01:56:44.120 and he snorted forth venom

01:56:46.840 on all the way before him as he went

01:56:50.020 but Sigurd neither trembled

01:56:52.480 nor was a dread at the roaring of him.

01:56:57.860 So when as the worm crept over the pits,

01:57:01.120 Sigurd thrust his sword under his left shoulder

01:57:04.140 so that it sank in up to the hilt.

01:57:07.940 Then up left Sigurd from the pit

01:57:10.880 and drew the sword back again unto him

01:57:13.700 and therewith his arm all bloody up to the very shoulder. 0.71

01:57:19.540 now when that mighty worm was where that he had his death wound he then lashed out head and tail

01:57:28.820 so that all things uh soever that were before him were broken into pieces

01:57:34.540 when whereas fafner had his death wound he asked who art thou and who is thy father

01:57:43.020 and what thy kin that thou went so hardy as to bear weapons against me sigur the answered

01:57:51.420 unknown to men as my kin i am called a noble beast neither father have i nor mother and all

01:58:00.600 alone have i fared hither said fafner whereas thou hast neither father nor mother what wonder

01:58:08.880 Weft thou born then

01:58:10.800 But now

01:58:12.960 Though thou tellest me not thy name

01:58:15.840 On this my death day

01:58:17.320 Yet thou knowest verily

01:58:19.020 That thou liest unto me

01:58:21.160 He answered 0.99

01:58:22.240 Sigurth I have called

01:58:23.860 My father was Sigmund 0.99

01:58:26.520 Says Fafmir 1.00

01:58:28.440 Who egged thee on to this deed 0.98

01:58:31.220 And why wouldest thou be driven to it

01:58:33.540 Had thou never heard

01:58:35.860 How that all folk

01:58:37.640 Were a dread of me, and of the awe of my countenance

01:58:42.640 But an eager father thou hast, O bright-eyed swain

01:58:48.120 Sigurd answered, a hearty heart urged me on hereto

01:58:53.460 And a strong hand and this sharp sword

01:58:56.780 Which well thou knowest now

01:58:59.060 Stood me instead in the doing of the deed

01:59:02.300 Seldom hath hearty eld a faint-heart youth

01:59:06.880 Fafner said well I want that hast thou waxed amid thy kin thou mightiest had good skill to slay folk

01:59:17.440 in thine anger but more of a marvel is it that thou a bondsman taken in war shouldest have the

01:59:24.880 heart to set on me for few amongst bondsmen have the heart for the fight said Sigurd will thou

01:59:32.520 then cast in my teeth that I am

01:59:34.480 far away from my kin?

01:59:36.960 Albeit I was a bondsman,

01:59:38.840 yet was I never shackled.

01:59:41.600 God, what thou

01:59:42.540 hast found me free

01:59:44.540 anow? Fafner

01:59:46.340 answered. In angry

01:59:48.740 wise dost thou take my speech,

01:59:51.260 but hearken,

01:59:52.460 for that same gold which I

01:59:54.580 have owned

01:59:56.160 shall be thy bane too.

01:59:58.840 Quote Sigurd.

01:59:59.460 fain would we keep all our wealth till that day of days yet shall each man die once for all

02:00:06.780 then said fafner a few things will thou do after my counsel but take heed that thou should be

02:00:13.640 drowned if thou farest unwarily over the sea so bide thou rather on the dry land for the coming

02:00:21.040 of the of the calm tide then said sigurd speak fafner and say if thou art so exceedingly wise

02:00:29.940 Who are the Norns who rule the lot of all mother's sons?

02:00:34.320 Fafnir answered, 0.61

02:00:36.180 Many there be and wide apart, for some are of the kin of the Iser,

02:00:40.300 and some are of Elfinkin, and some there are of the daughters of Devalon.

02:00:48.200 Said Sigrid,

02:00:50.540 Now namest thou the home whereon Sirt and the Iser mix and mingle the water of the sword.

02:00:59.180 unshapen is that home height said fafner and yet again he said ray and my brother has brought

02:01:07.420 about my end and it gladdens my heart that thine too he bringeth about for thus will things be

02:01:14.900 according to his will and once again he spake countenance of terror i bore upon i bore up before

02:01:22.200 all folk. After that, I brooded over the heritage of my brother, and on every side did I spout out

02:01:29.680 poison, so that none durst come an eye me, and of no weapon was I a dread. Nor ever had I so many

02:01:42.380 men before me, as that I deemed myself not stronger than all, for all men were sore of fear of me.

02:01:49.700 Sigurd answered and said

02:01:52.080 Few may have victory by means of the same countenance of terror

02:01:56.260 For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find

02:02:01.240 That no one man is by so far the mightiest of all

02:02:05.140 Then says Fafner

02:02:07.660 Such counsel I give thee

02:02:10.300 That thou take thy horse and ride away at thy speediest

02:02:14.580 For oft times it fails out so

02:02:18.780 that he who gets a death wound avenges himself

02:02:22.640 nonetheless. Sigurd answered,

02:02:26.100 Such as thy reeds are, I will no wise

02:02:30.680 do after them. Nay, I will ride now to thy lair

02:02:34.480 and take to me that great treasure of thy kin.

02:02:39.160 Ride there then, said Fafner, and thou shalt find gold

02:02:42.760 anow to suffice thee for all thy life days.

02:02:47.360 Yet shall thou gold be thy bane, and the bane of everyone soever who owns it.

02:02:54.320 Then up stood Sigur, and said, Home would I ride, and lose all that wealth, if I deemst that by losing thereof I should never die.

02:03:05.160 But every brave and true man will fain have his hand on wealth till that last day that thou, Fafner, wallow in the death pain till death and hell have thee. 0.51

02:03:17.440 And therewithal, Fafner died. 0.59

02:03:21.060 Svan has returned to us.

02:03:22.400 yeah i was gonna say that last little part too where he says

02:03:28.920 fafner wallow in the death pain uh till death and hell have thee in the translation to the word

02:03:39.140 hell h-e-l both the title of the goddess of death and and uh severing and the breaking down of all

02:03:50.720 things and death itself as uh poetically is interchangeable in the stories um to say

02:04:00.980 that you will be in hell means you will be dead um and i think that's just worth noting um

02:04:09.500 because of christianity and its you know usage of the word hell to mean like their uh semitic 0.98

02:04:19.800 Gehenna versus the concept of, you know, tonight we will bring them hell is we will bring them 0.98

02:04:28.200 death, the end of things. Again, the imagery there is powerful. A concept this brings that is, 0.97

02:04:45.080 i mean we could dwell a long time on it but i don't think it's necessary but it is important

02:04:52.260 to mention that that's why names matter it talks a little bit here and

02:05:00.660 there is a big point that sigurd is is brave is very brave but when asked his name on this

02:05:12.620 he doesn't want to tell this dying creature of great might his name until he's challenged and

02:05:19.020 kind of called out and then he sacks up and like tells him his name but there is

02:05:27.340 might and power in a name you bestow a name upon something it ceases being just a thing it's no

02:05:34.780 longer that. It's he or she. It's a thing. It becomes a proper noun. I mean, we even see it

02:05:47.880 linguistically. It separates itself from indistinguishable category of things and

02:05:55.400 becomes a very specific thing. And with that specificity, curses and magic and intent can

02:06:04.260 flow towards it. The naming of something exists beyond just the spoken word or the utterance.

02:06:14.200 It is an instilling in something, a particular value, a specificity, a pointing a target on

02:06:22.340 something that can be seen throughout the all the worlds and that's fundamental to

02:06:31.860 and i think this is relevant um now in a you know as much as ever maybe even more than ever in

02:06:39.140 people's minds that is the point of fame you are showing your name and your face and who you are

02:06:49.140 to the world. And it brings the possibility of enemies coming after you and bad things befalling

02:06:58.220 you. But it also singles you out for the attention of great men, of great ladies, of the

02:07:07.400 iser, of your ancestors to take note of you, to take note of your deeds, to witness you,

02:07:13.700 and to build your fame, to build your worship, to be proud of you.

02:07:20.400 So you venture something.

02:07:22.180 There's a cost to putting yourself out there, but there's also a gain.

02:07:28.080 But I think that the issue of naming,

02:07:29.880 that's why the naming ceremony is such an important ritual.

02:07:34.860 The Asuvatmi is such an important ritual in Ausatru

02:07:38.340 Because taking this crying, pooping, screaming thing and giving it a name is such a fundamental part of making that baby into a person and bestowing all of the dignity that being a person has with it.

02:08:03.700 yeah go ahead

02:08:08.480 so

02:08:14.760 let's see where did you last

02:08:18.180 leave off

02:08:19.020 chapter 19

02:08:21.660 chapter 19 of the slaying

02:08:24.260 of Rayen son

02:08:25.980 of Raythmar

02:08:27.540 thereafter

02:08:29.940 came Rayen to Sigurd and he said

02:08:32.320 Hail, Lord and Master, a noble victory hast thou won in slaying Fafnir.

02:08:39.280 Whereas none durst here therefore abide in the path of him,

02:08:44.020 and now shall this deed of fame be of renown, while the world stands fast.

02:08:53.120 Then Reion stood staring on the earth a long while,

02:08:57.120 and presently thereafter spoke from a heavy mood.

02:09:00.620 Thine own brother hast thou slain

02:09:05.180 And scarce may I be called sackless of the deed

02:09:10.340 Now, we might have our own modern interpretation of that line

02:09:14.840 But sackless, of course, meaning without reward

02:09:18.260 Or without anything to show for it

02:09:22.220 Then Sigurd took his sword, Grom 0.56

02:09:26.340 And dried it out upon the earth 0.98

02:09:29.360 and spoke to Rayan,

02:09:33.300 Afar thou farest when I wrought this deed

02:09:36.460 and tried this sharp sword with my hand

02:09:40.920 and the might of me.

02:09:43.880 With all the might and mane of a dragon

02:09:46.340 must I strive while thou there

02:09:49.600 were laid low in the heather bush,

02:09:53.000 wadding not if it were heaven or earth.

02:09:55.700 ray and retorted long bite this worm have lain in his lair if the sharp sword i forged with my hand

02:10:08.300 had not been good at need of thee had that not been neither thou nor any man would have prevailed

02:10:16.440 against him at this time so now they're kind of laying accusations upon each other you hide in

02:10:23.100 bushes while i took care of the deed and it's no my skill was in making the sword that if you

02:10:28.860 didn't have it you would not have been able to defeat him sigurd answers when as men meet foes

02:10:36.540 in a fight better is a stout heart than a sharp sword then said rayon exceedingly heavy thou

02:10:45.980 Thou hast slain my brother, and scarce may I be sackless of the deed.

02:10:53.520 Therewith Sigurd cut out the heart of the worm with the sword called Rydil.

02:11:00.040 So Riddil is most likely a short sword, a smaller Sayax kind of sword, better suited for the fabrication of an animal rather than Gram, the large sword.

02:11:19.220 But Reyn drank of Fafnir's blood and spoke 0.97

02:11:26.780 Grant me a boon and do a thing little for thee to do 0.82

02:11:32.100 Bear the heart to the fire and roast it and give me thereof to eat

02:11:37.320 Then Sigurd went his ways and roasted it on a rod

02:11:43.160 And when the blood bubbled out he laid his finger thereon to essay it

02:11:49.180 or to discern its temperature and wellness of cook

02:11:55.580 and if it were fully done.

02:11:57.420 And then he set his finger into his mouth

02:11:59.660 and lo, when the heart blood of the worm

02:12:01.780 touched his tongue straight away,

02:12:03.840 he knew the voice of all the birds

02:12:06.440 and heard within with all how the woodpeckers chattered

02:12:11.640 in the break beside him.

02:12:14.160 So Reyn knows more.

02:12:17.320 And since his brother has taken the form of this dragon, the blood of the dragon has extraordinary powers, and he's telling Sigurd to prepare this for him, and in this just slight twist of fate, he tastes the blood, and suddenly he understands the chirping of birds.

02:12:40.260 And he hears the woodpeckers

02:12:45.620 Chattering in a copse

02:12:47.380 Of woods beside them

02:12:52.660 And this is what they say

02:12:54.480 There sittest thou sickert

02:12:56.880 Roasting Fafnir's heart for another 0.87

02:12:58.940 And thou shouldest eat thine his own self

02:13:02.060 And then thou shouldest become the wisest of all men

02:13:05.160 And then another spoke

02:13:07.060 There lies Reyn

02:13:08.500 minded to beguile the young man who trusts him but yet again a third said again the the number 0.94

02:13:16.300 three of prevalence let him smite the head off of him then and be the only lord of all that gold

02:13:24.140 and once more forth spake and said ah the wiser were he if he followed after good counsel and 0.76

02:13:32.140 rolled thereafter to fafner's lair and took to him the mighty treasures that lieth there

02:13:37.680 And then rode over Hindfell, whereas sleeps Brinjil.

02:13:44.800 For there would be a great, he would get great wisdom.

02:13:49.700 Ah, wise he were, if he did after our reads, if he followed our counsel, and bethought him of his own weel.

02:13:59.940 Weel, meaning the Anglo-Saxon word, it survives in our language as well, wellness.

02:14:05.300 So he would be looking after his own wellness if he followed our deeds, for where wolf's ears are, wolf's teeth are near.

02:14:16.220 So he's saying that rain is a threat and it has cunning ears, cunning eyes, and what more so is he needs to be weary of the wolf's teeth.

02:14:30.100 Then cried a fifth

02:14:32.540 Aye, aye, not so wise is he as I deem him

02:14:37.820 If he spareth him whose brother he hath slain already

02:14:41.860 Again, laying on the idea that

02:14:45.160 Is Rayan doing this to get the treasure

02:14:47.700 Or it's also perhaps a combination of

02:14:50.940 Slaying his brother's slayer

02:14:54.420 At last the sixth spoke 0.96

02:14:57.600 handy and good read good counsel to slay him and be the lord of that treasure then said sigurd

02:15:07.200 the time is unborn where rain shall be my bane nay rather one road shall both these brothers

02:15:15.400 fare the road to hell so he's saying there will be one road that these brothers will share and

02:15:22.200 death and death. This imagery is just so poignant and so visceral. I really love the way this is

02:15:32.220 written. Random side thing I want to interject. I see my friend Brian in the comments. Good to

02:15:40.200 see you here, Brian. He mentions how interesting that he buries himself and is reborn once he

02:15:48.340 slays his dragon i think that follows really interesting onto our talk about the dolmens

02:15:55.060 and the transformative period there and i think one thing that lends to the imagery of him going

02:16:01.300 down into the earth and emerging from this is not just as he emerging through this transformative

02:16:10.420 experience but he's literally covered in gore as we often are as we enter into the world

02:16:19.220 which is kind of an interesting part of his transformation

02:16:25.140 and i'm surprised that the emphasis was not as heavy i've always associated that moment of him

02:16:31.140 being deeply covered in in that gore where it kind of mentions that it's up to his shoulders or

02:16:38.100 what have you and i that kind of threw me off reading it i was like oh i kind of remember

02:16:44.100 being more emphasized but i think in the niblungen lead it is talked about a bit more

02:16:51.540 where it's expanded upon and um but yeah and that's

02:17:00.020 yeah that has yes so that's that's a part that's a part of the lore and it has uh

02:17:05.620 more implications going on and in case anybody didn't notice it he got the heads up the plan was

02:17:11.380 for him to drown in the blood and for uh rayon to not only get his brother slain but also be able to

02:17:19.060 go and get all the gold for himself right because he was greedy and conniving like that and then

02:17:26.820 sigurd hearing and understanding the the words of the birds and they're saying no it'd be better if

02:17:34.740 he slayed him now and never had to deal with him because clearly there's uh

02:17:42.020 conspiracy that so that reference is interesting because you in uh

02:17:51.140 All right, sorry, my memory is failing me there.

02:18:03.080 the lay of rig you hear that one of the things that um

02:18:13.400 conning does is that con does is with learning runes and developing that elite level of wisdom

02:18:25.560 that kingly wisdom part of that is understanding the speech of birds so this is like a pinnacle

02:18:34.040 achievement of you actualizing is uh mentioned there as well

02:18:44.200 well upon hearing these birds um he says it seems to be that both of these brothers

02:18:52.520 will follow the same road the road to hell the road of death and therewith he drew his sword

02:18:58.280 gram and swiftly struck off rayon's head and then he heard the woodpeckers a singing even as the

02:19:08.280 song says for the first saying bind thou sigurd the bright red rings not meat it is many things

02:19:18.760 to fear i may i may know i fair of all the fairest girt about with gold good for thy getting

02:19:29.720 the second sang green go the ways towards the hall of gyuki that the fates show forth to those who

02:19:40.040 fair thither there the rich king rear if a daughter thou shalt deal sigurd with gold for thy sweetling

02:19:51.880 so go forth to to the hall of gyuki and woo the daughter there and the third a high hall is there

02:20:01.480 reared upon hindfeld without all around it sweeps red flames aloft wise men rot that

02:20:09.560 wonders of halls with the unhidden gleam of the glory of gold then the fourth spoke soft on the

02:20:18.920 fell a shield maiden sleepeth the lime trees red plague plying about her the sleep thorn set by

02:20:30.680 odin into that maiden for her choosing in war the one he willed not go son and behold that may

02:20:42.520 under helm whom from battle vince corner bore from her may not turn the torment of sleep

02:20:51.960 dear offspring of kings in the dread norns despite so they advise him to release or to attain

02:21:05.880 the uh releasing the valkyrie who went against lord odin's decrees and also to go to another hall

02:21:15.240 and uh seek for the the the daughter's hand in marriage um

02:21:25.160 then sigurd ate some great deal of fafnir's heart and the remnant he kept then he leapt upon his

02:21:33.320 horse and rode along the trail worn down by fafnir and so right under his abiding place

02:21:39.960 and he found it open and beheld all the doors and the gear of them that they were wrought of iron i

02:21:47.320 and all the beams of the house and it was dug down in the deep into the earth where found sigurd gold

02:21:55.240 exceeding plentiness the soul and the sword roti and thence and thence he took the helm of all

02:22:04.680 and the gold birni and many things fair and good so now he has another either up it's not specified

02:22:12.780 as a long sword but with the possible alliterative of riddle the short sword um that also to roti

02:22:21.660 may be a short sword and he also takes the helm of awe and a golden chainmail shirt and many things

02:22:29.400 fair and good so much gold he found there that he thought verily that scarce might two horses or

02:22:37.240 three belike bear it thence so he so much that he he only has one horse he doesn't even know if

02:22:44.520 two horses could carry it all and so he took all the gold and laid it into two great chests 0.63

02:22:50.760 and set them upon the horse grani and took the reins of him but no wise will he stir

02:22:58.040 neither will he abide the smiting then sigurd knows the mind of the horse and leaps on the back

02:23:04.300 of him and smites and spurs him or strikes and spurs him off and off the horse goes even as if

02:23:12.660 he were unladen so again he he finds that the horse is of kind of emboldened by the victory of

02:23:21.640 him, and

02:23:23.020 he rides off with the treasure

02:23:25.960 and Sigurd on his back.

02:23:28.000 And it's a very special horse.

02:23:30.960 We should recall

02:23:31.940 it is

02:23:33.080 Slepnir's stock.

02:23:37.740 Yeah, it is the stock of

02:23:39.100 the Allfather's horse.

02:23:42.300 It's almost like if he knew

02:23:43.660 that he was going to need a horse to carry

02:23:45.800 all of this.

02:23:47.620 Yeah, that's one of the really special

02:23:49.640 things about this saga is we see the entering in and out of it at the pivotal moments uh

02:23:56.600 oh then so many times in this it's really i don't know i just love it and i'm glad we're going

02:24:02.600 through it i'm glad i'm getting shared with all you guys this is a really uh a really important

02:24:09.160 one that is just seminal to so many things culturally in the lore and the storytelling

02:24:23.400 of northern europe up to including today

02:24:31.080 well chapter 20 of sigurd's meeting of brinhild on the mountain

02:24:36.360 My long roads, Sigurd rides, till he comes at last up onto Hindfell and wends, wending means to kind of go in a way that is winding, his way south to the land of the Franks in France.

02:24:57.340 and he sees before him on the fell a great light so upon this mountain plateau a great light

02:25:05.340 as a fire burning and flaming up even unto heaven and when he came thereto low a shield hung castle

02:25:16.800 before him and a banner on the topmost thereof into the castle went sigurd and he saw one

02:25:24.880 there lying asleep and all armed. Therewith he takes the helm off of the head of him and sees

02:25:34.340 that it is no man but a woman. And she was clad in a barney as closely set on her as though it had

02:25:42.940 grown out of her flesh. So he rent it from the collar downwards and then the sleeves thereof

02:25:50.740 and ever the sword bit on it as if it were cloth.

02:25:55.220 Then said Sigurd that overlong had she lain asleep, but she asked.

02:26:02.900 So by removing the bernie and her sword and sword bit or frog 0.94

02:26:10.180 that holds the sword, she comes to life. 0.89

02:26:15.380 And I think about this a lot because there's even the reference

02:26:19.120 in the original snow white story in which she is um seized up by a tight clothing tight um corset

02:26:30.660 and that she you know semi falls asleep because of that uh before the apple is used um and i i

02:26:40.080 i find that interesting like kind of this confinement and then the the masculine comes in

02:26:46.160 and removes the confinement and thus releasing and giving her um autonomy and clarity of mind

02:26:56.800 um so she asks what thing of great might is it that has prevailed to rend my birnie

02:27:06.640 and draw me from my sleep even as it is sung in the song

02:27:12.160 what bit on the bernie why breaks my sleep away who has turned from me my wane tormenting so who

02:27:23.160 has and again the usage of wane who has taken my tormenting and reduced it or uh let cycled it down

02:27:31.720 ah it is so that here is come sigurd sigmund's son bearing fafner's helm on his head and fafner's

02:27:43.100 bane in his hand then answered sigurd so she knew of him before he speaks then he speaks

02:27:52.060 sigmund's son with sigurd's sword ian now rent down the raven's wall

02:27:58.880 Of the Volsung's kin is he who hath done the deed, but now I have heard that thou art daughter of a mighty king, and folk have told us that thou wert lovely and full of lore, and now I will try the same.

02:28:17.720 So he speaks and says he's of the Volsung kin. And this is, again, the same thing that happens in Hundingsbana, where Helgi Hundingsbana speaks of a Valkyrie also being a princess or being the daughter of a great king.

02:28:36.360 And there's no emphasis as to whether she passes and becomes a Valkyrie or that the Valkyrie stewardship is bestowed upon her while she is also still the daughter of a king.

02:28:49.860 It's not fully clarified.

02:28:54.460 But either way, she is of royalty in the earthly realm and of servitude to Lord Odin in the heavenly realm.

02:29:01.980 and then she sings long have I slept and slumbered long many and long are the woes of mankind by the

02:29:13.140 might of Odin must I bide helpless to shake from off the spells of slumber hail to the day come

02:29:22.320 back. Hail, sons of the daylight. Hail to thee, dark night and thy daughter. Look with kind eyes

02:29:31.940 adown on us, sitting here lonely, and give unto us the gain that we long for. Hail to the Aesir

02:29:41.440 and to the sweet Aosinir. Hail to the fair earth fulfilled of plenty, fair words, wise hearts.

02:29:51.500 Would we win from you and healing hands while life we hold?

02:30:00.320 So this excerpt is fairly well known as being one of the best examples of an oratated prayer.

02:30:11.460 and clearly showing the love of the gods, love of the goddesses,

02:30:20.700 the blessings upon mankind for those who know them

02:30:24.800 and healing hands that are laid upon them to ease their woes

02:30:32.420 so long as they take the faith upon them.

02:30:35.660 um this is very this is cool and i don't i think it's worth noting but i think it was a good choice

02:30:42.920 by the translator the translator inserted this year as um from the cedrifo model it's the

02:30:53.740 existence viking age prayer example that we have and it's something that

02:31:03.220 So certainly as long as I've been Ausitru is a common and well-known and often repeated Ausitru prayer.

02:31:21.700 It's what a lot of people do and call, you know, greeting the day.

02:31:28.480 A lot of people do this at dawn.

02:31:30.900 um so yeah just so everybody's aware that's an something that uh bellows decided to insert here

02:31:42.020 because it's it belongs here and it's completely appropriate but it's taken from the cedrif

02:31:49.100 and also it's worth noting she doesn't bemoan or um holds a vengeance against the gods

02:32:00.260 She clearly, she begins to explain why she is here, but she doesn't wake up shaking her fists.

02:32:10.320 Instead, she praises them upon waking.

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02:32:37.660 Well, in this part here too, she speaks and she says,

02:32:41.220 There were two kings who fought.

02:32:43.880 One, his name Helmgunner.

02:32:47.580 He was an old man and the greatest of warriors.

02:32:50.920 And Lord Odin had promised that the victory of the battle would be unto him, but his foe was Agnar of Aldi's brother, and so I smote down Helm Gunnar in the fight.

02:33:05.700 So this is an interesting point. She smites him. And remember, Valkyrie are seen as Dees or Nornirs of battle. They can allocate the death of a warrior, his time coming to an end.

02:33:22.800 And she says that she specifically goes against the will of Lord Odin, who promised him victory, but instead carries him to death.

02:33:35.020 lord odin in his vengeance for that deed stuck the sleep thorn into me and said that i should

02:33:46.160 never again have the victory but should be given away in marriage but there against i vowed a vow

02:33:54.480 that never would i wed one who knew the name of fear so ultimately from a epic poetic standpoint

02:34:04.040 there's two things to be understood is that she becomes the material. She, she steps out of the

02:34:11.500 realm of, um, the heavenly. She goes against the decree of the divine and she makes an action that

02:34:20.420 was not indicated, uh, the Valkyria being the, the will of, of the choosing father. They are the

02:34:29.160 carriers, he is the chooser. And then she becomes mortal and clearly states that she will never

02:34:38.060 wed anyone if they have a shred of fear within their heart. So she becomes the kind of semi-divine

02:34:46.660 prize of the mortal. And this could all be allegoric for the mortal man, the soul of a warrior

02:34:55.920 achieving um that connection to the divine in in many ways she is like uh perhaps a grail unto

02:35:06.340 itself or um a gateway or the horn of to receive um and sigrid says to her teach us the lore of

02:35:18.680 mighty matters. And she said, Belike thou canest more skill in all than I, yet will I teach thee?

02:35:27.940 I, and with thanks, if there be aught of my cunning, that will in any wise pleasure thee,

02:35:35.560 either of the runes or of other matters that are root of things. But now, first, let us drink

02:35:42.560 together and may the gods give us twain a good day that thou mayest win hope and fame from my wisdom

02:35:51.680 and that thou mayest hereafter mind thee of that which we twain speak together so he receives the

02:35:59.760 the horn i mean it's this specifically says to our hornet scowl um so she passes a horn to him

02:36:11.040 so that they may drink and cheers between each other again a common point in our erin mythos

02:36:21.160 even when the lord odin goes uh to gunloth he is given the the mead of poetry he's given the drink

02:36:28.820 This is a huge factor of will being replenished by chthonic power, power that's buried, power that's laid to sleep or laid upon the ground.

02:36:45.360 Once it's awakened, it's given over to the will and the one who sought to break that catatonic sense.

02:36:58.820 So then Grenhild filled a beaker and bore it to Sigurd and gave him the drink of love and spoke.

02:37:07.520 Beer bring I to thee, fair fruit of the Byrnie's clash.

02:37:14.060 Mixed is it mightily, mingled with fame, brimming with bright songs.

02:37:20.080 They say lays, but the word is songs or poems.

02:37:25.580 and pitiful runes, wise words and sweet words, speech of great gain.

02:37:35.720 Runes of war know thou, if great thou will be.

02:37:41.220 Cut them upon the hilt of a hardened sword, 0.54

02:37:45.020 some on the brand's back, some on the shining side,

02:37:49.780 twice named Tyr therein.

02:37:53.380 Again, connecting the sword and victory to Lord Tyr.

02:38:00.820 Sea runes, good at need, learnt for ship's saving, for the good health of the swimming horse, a kenning for the ship.

02:38:12.060 On the stern cut them, and cut them on the rudder blade, and set flame to the shaven oar.

02:38:19.080 Whoso big be the sea hills, or how so big be the sea hills, how so the blue beneath, hail from the main, then comest thou home.

02:38:33.460 word runes learn well if thou wilt that no man pay back grief for the grief thou gavest

02:38:43.400 wind thou these or wind thou these weave thou these cast these all about thee at the thing

02:38:53.180 where the folk throng unto the full doom faring runes for the court

02:39:01.160 runes for the law runes for making sure that no one can hold um grievances of counsel or

02:39:11.560 grievances of court against you ale runes know the wisdom if thou wilt if thou wilt that another's

02:39:21.160 wife should not berate thine heart that trust it cut them on the mead horn and on the back of each

02:39:29.120 hand and nick and n upon the nail so a couple of things about that is she's referring to of course

02:39:38.800 being betrayed by another's wife being poisoned this was again another theme that was clearly

02:39:45.200 played out in ale skull and grimson saga where she poisoned the horn and gave it to him um

02:39:52.400 and he carved runes upon the horn and then on the back of each hand nick now this is kind of

02:40:01.440 been um translated or perceived in different ways is that with the nail of your hand you would

02:40:09.260 carve the rune and then others have said no that it's on the nail itself um but the n the the rune

02:40:19.320 in the Old

02:40:24.220 Norse, Younger Futhark

02:40:26.120 is specifically

02:40:28.520 mentioned.

02:40:32.540 And she says...

02:40:33.800 This is another moment when you're talking about

02:40:36.520 the rune lore that comes

02:40:38.460 with this.

02:40:39.760 And I looked back over it a little bit while Svan

02:40:42.220 was reading.

02:40:44.800 Excuse me, guys.

02:40:49.320 In the runatal, which, or not runatal, rigstula, that's the word that wouldn't come to me when I was sitting there slack, John, a few minutes ago, talking about a lay of rig.

02:41:03.720 That's part of that ascension to regality is Kahn learns these kind of runes.

02:41:16.580 He learns the runes to do a lot of these things.

02:41:22.620 Among them understand the chirping of birds, but battle runes and ale runes and other runes,

02:41:29.600 this is a part of that story of ascension and actualization to your,

02:41:37.360 assuming the mantle of king

02:41:40.880 or the mantle of, you know,

02:41:43.020 your earth self

02:41:47.640 or your other self, rather.

02:41:51.380 Your self writ large,

02:41:52.960 your potential.

02:41:54.480 And this is one of those moments

02:41:57.260 of self-actualization

02:41:58.700 where you learn these things.

02:42:01.040 Also, something to be said is

02:42:03.520 the idea of uniting and meeting with your other half to make yourself whole the full

02:42:13.640 integration of the man and this goes into you know in a psychological realm uh Jung talked

02:42:20.640 about Dr. Jung talked about this but this integration of the whole self of all of the

02:42:28.660 parts of oneself, the shadow, the feminine aspect of oneself through this pairing and

02:42:36.580 this receiving this wisdom from the other.

02:42:43.700 And it's an important thing.

02:42:47.480 And I think that we can, I think that it is a stretch to see connectivity and say, oh,

02:42:53.980 this is that.

02:42:54.780 But there's threads that are too obvious to miss that share commonality and are worth making note of in the development of this particular hero's journey.

02:43:13.780 and then poetically this becomes a huge lore drop for for a poet or a skull um as it

02:43:27.000 as we go it's we'll we'll see here um let me see uh of alien wisdom if thou wilt

02:43:39.780 Oh, sorry. Yes. And carve an end upon thy nail. Ale hath thou heed to sign from all harm. So a rune of ale to bolster against harm. Leak lay thou in the liquor.

02:44:01.280 so a leak and you'll see this usage of the word and leak again because of its connection to healing

02:44:10.140 leak lay thou in the liquor then i know for sure never cometh to be

02:44:16.440 mead with hurtful matters mingled so kind of a laying of the leak within the mead

02:44:23.940 reducing or removing

02:44:28.140 baleful things.

02:44:31.520 Help runes shalt thou gather

02:44:34.620 if skill thou wouldst gain 0.97

02:44:37.800 to loosen child from the low-made mother. 0.99

02:44:42.200 Cut me thy in hands hollow. 0.97

02:44:46.260 Wrapped the joints round about.

02:44:48.600 Call for the good folks.

02:44:50.160 Gain some helping.

02:44:53.940 Again, the usage of bark, the hollow hands of a tree, carving the runes there in and wrapping them about.

02:45:05.460 I've heard this being translated in many different ways.

02:45:09.000 The possibility of a wrist or ankle of bark carved with the runes of birth.

02:45:19.680 And then, because it's wrapped the joints around and about, and then to call upon the land spirits, the good folk, the hoodoo folk, for gain some helping.

02:45:33.640 Learn the bough runes wisdom, if leech lore thou lovest.

02:45:40.600 Again, leech and leek and everything in it connected to healing.

02:45:46.840 It's not the worm itself.

02:45:48.800 The only reason why the worm itself is called a leech is because it was used in medicinal practices, but leechcraft is not the craft of understanding blood-sucking worms.

02:45:59.980 It's the craft of knowing healing.

02:46:03.300 So learn now, learn the bough runes wisdom, if leech lore thou lovest, and wilt wot about wounds searching.

02:46:10.380 On the bark be they scored, on the buds of trees, whose boughs look eastward ever.

02:46:18.800 Thought runes shalt thou deal with, if thou wilt be of all men.

02:46:25.900 Fairest, sold, white, and wisest.

02:46:29.620 There are redid these first cut, these first took to heart high Hropt.

02:46:38.600 Hropt, of course, is another high key for Lord Odin.

02:46:42.480 um the the usage of this being is you know the first cut by him first seen by him when he

02:46:51.340 synthesizes with the tree in heaven and knows where all the roots go all the way down to the

02:46:58.320 beginning in the origins of all things in Nivelheim um on the shield where they scored

02:47:08.700 that stands before the shining god so again now she's listing where these great runes have been

02:47:16.700 placed throughout the lore and on balder's shield that's uh that stands before the shining god

02:47:26.260 on early waking's ear so on the ear of the horse of the sun on the all-knowing's hoof

02:47:34.380 On the wheel which runneth under Rognir's chariot

02:47:39.180 Under Thor's chariots there are runes

02:47:41.820 On the sleeping, on Sleipnir's jaw's teeth

02:47:46.740 On the sleigh traces these runes

02:47:51.340 On the rough bear's paw and on Bragi's tongue

02:47:55.980 On the wolf claw and the eagle bill

02:47:59.180 On the bloody wings and the bridge's end

02:48:02.080 On the loosing palms and pity's path, on glass and on gold and on goodly silver, in wine and in wort, in herbs, and the seat of the witch wife, on Gungnir's point, on the spear of Lord Odin, on the Norn's nail and on the neb of the night owl.

02:48:26.940 A couple of things there. The Norn's nail may be the guiding point that takes weft and weave through the strands and not actually the nail of the finger.

02:48:41.760 And this is also one of the most interesting points I like to bring up every now and then is, this is one of the, I think this might be the only mention in the sagas of an owl.

02:48:54.160 we know our ancestors knew of this animal but it was not mentioned um anywhere except here

02:49:02.980 and i i bring that up to point is that uh we have to be careful we get into the mode of thinking

02:49:10.520 that obviously if it's not mentioned doesn't mean that our ancestors didn't know about it and that

02:49:15.760 didn't exist for them again the funneling of lore into poems helped preserve our faith but it also

02:49:27.120 left much out that would perhaps be of a common knowledge you know we we know that owls existed

02:49:35.040 in scandinavia that our ancestors knew of them but again they were not mentioned maybe they were

02:49:40.880 mentioned in the other i don't know hundreds of poems that we don't have passed down to us true

02:49:48.640 yeah the ones lost to time and i've just i've often looked to see and again the um the

02:49:56.960 postulization that our ancestors didn't see an owl because it was never mentioned is kind of again a

02:50:05.120 ridiculous thing that we should get away from um it's just the same as you know that our ancestors

02:50:11.360 didn't use drums or that the runes were not so prevalent considering they're made of wood they

02:50:18.320 probably rotted away but they're not actually mentioned often the usage of of a drum um so we

02:50:26.240 have to bear that in mind i think a lot of it is coming down to poetic meter and the usage um and

02:50:33.680 And in this case, the night owl, the bridge's end, these are either, the bridge's end could be the reference to attaining Ausgarder or entering into heaven through Lord Heimdall.

02:50:50.100 Or again, it's like the roots of the mountain or the breath of a fish.

02:50:57.540 There are these, it's kind of beyond the known.

02:51:00.700 and the night owl's beak or nib or, you know, kind of the unknown and unseen thing.

02:51:11.020 And she says, all these so cut were shaven and sheared and mingled with holy mead and set upon wide ways anow.

02:51:20.680 So they're blessed with mead after they're cut.

02:51:24.500 They're blooded by either blood or in this case, she says mead.

02:51:28.860 Some abide with the elves, the land in between the material and the heavens.

02:51:36.180 Some abide with the Aesir, other with the wise Vanir in the west.

02:51:42.600 Some still hold to the sons of mankind.

02:51:46.560 These be the book runes and the runes of good help, and all the ale runes and the runes of much might, to whom so they may avail, unbewildered, unspoiled.

02:51:58.860 They are wholesome to have. Thrive thou with these then, when thou hast learned their lore, till the gods take thy life days.

02:52:11.260 Now shalt thou choose thee, even as choice is bidden.

02:52:16.960 Sharp steals root and stem, choose song or silence, see to each in thy heart, all hurt has been heeded.

02:52:26.360 Then answered Sigurd, never shall I flee. Though thou wottest me fey, never was I born for blenching. Thy loved reed will I hold a right in my heart, even so long as I may live.

02:52:46.940 So he says, I'm not built to fear

02:52:49.440 And I was not born for turning away from this knowledge

02:52:53.240 And all of the counsel beckoned by your love

02:52:58.300 Will I hold to my heart?

02:53:01.340 Will I die?

02:53:09.060 And it does continue in chapter 21

02:53:11.780 There's more words

02:53:13.880 but they're no longer in the kind of again in the poetic insert inserts but there kind of becomes

02:53:20.180 more of a weaving between the two so svan if you will let's do chapter 21 and call it a night on

02:53:29.460 that and then we'll go to questions or yeah we'll go to questions and comments okay um yeah and i'll

02:53:36.620 i'm gonna have to use the restroom after chapter 21 so more wise words of brain is in chapter 21

02:53:43.760 Sigurd spake now, sure no wiser woman that thou art one may be found in this wide world. I teach me more yet of thy wisdom. And she answers, seemly it is that I do according to thy will and show thee forth more reeds of great avail.

02:54:07.440 So she says it is honorable and goodly that she do his bidding and give more counsel to him.

02:54:15.260 For thy prayers sake and thy wisdom, and she spoke withal, be kindly to friend and to kin and reward not their trespasses against thee.

02:54:27.860 Bear and forbear and win for thee thereby, long enduring the praise of men.

02:54:34.420 So be kind for kindness to kin and those who give kindness, but never take or give kindness to those who trespass against you.

02:54:49.580 Take good heed of evil things.

02:54:54.180 A maize love and a man's wife, full off their doth ill befall. 1.00

02:54:59.800 so be weary um of the heart the yearning of a man who's in love and be weary of a woman who 0.97

02:55:11.260 is showing interest to you even though she's betrothed uh avoid it like the plague is basically 0.97

02:55:17.380 what that is um let not thy mind be over much crossed by unwise men so don't argue with fools 0.98

02:55:27.440 At thronged meetings of the folk 0.94

02:55:30.540 Throng me like large gatherings of people

02:55:33.300 For oft these speak worse than they wot of

02:55:39.220 They speak more than what they know of

02:55:41.380 Lest thou be called a dastard

02:55:43.940 And art minded to think that thou art even as is said

02:55:47.860 Slay such a one on another day 0.93

02:55:51.080 And so reward his ugly talk

02:55:53.440 So don't get all worked up 0.98

02:55:55.180 You will have your chance to make things even if what he says is worth killing him. 0.74

02:56:01.820 Do it at another time.

02:56:03.600 Don't do it around, don't gain a bunch of hoopla around the others.

02:56:08.720 Be still and wait for your time.

02:56:11.860 If thou farest by the way, whereas bide evil things, be well aware of thyself.

02:56:17.680 Take not harbor near the highway.

02:56:19.400 Though thou be benighted, for oft abide there ill wights for men's bewilderment.

02:56:30.100 So don't stray off the road.

02:56:34.620 Push on and seek harbor in the sanctity of society.

02:56:40.800 Don't find yourself in the wilds alone too often. 0.99

02:56:45.720 um let not fair women beguile thee such as thou mayest meet at the feast so that that the thought 0.99

02:56:56.860 thereof stand thee instead of sleep and a quiet mind I draw them not to thee with kisses and 0.99

02:57:05.000 other sweet things of love so at this point too it's worth noting that the audience would be

02:57:10.740 very attuned all the young men would be very attuned to the wisdom of the Valkyrie being

02:57:18.360 passed on it would be very poignant to make things here stand out and again don't let

02:57:26.540 the beauty of a woman sap your head and don't go about them trying to flirt and do other things

02:57:37.200 especially in relation to not knowing who is who and what is what just they're pretty so i'm gonna

02:57:45.460 i'm gonna uh roll in there you know hard to to win their love without knowing who is who and what is 0.92

02:57:52.340 what um if thou hearest the fools of a drunken man strive not with him being drunk with drunk 1.00

02:58:00.100 and witless, so don't match his idiocy. Many a grief, I, and even the very death groweth 1.00

02:58:07.140 from such things. Fight thy foes in the field, nor be burnt in thy house.

02:58:17.020 Never swear thou wrongsome oath. Great and grim is the reward for breaking of a plighted troth. 1.00

02:58:25.880 so there's a lot there um again showing the value of things do not give your word do not make oath

02:58:37.260 and then break it because it is a grim and plighted path that you will have uh fight your

02:58:44.360 foes where foes need to be fought don't let foes be about so that they can burn you in your home

02:58:51.480 give kind heed to dead men sick dead see dead or were dead deal heedfully with dead corpses

02:59:05.100 and i think this kind of whenever i see this verse it makes me think back to something that

02:59:11.920 you had said i'll see you go these the insulting of the dead um even if there are enemy um i think

02:59:21.440 this was during the time of, what's the, the Supreme Court justice, the Jewish woman

02:59:33.340 that died. And there was a lot of people making jokes or so on and so forth. And I remember

02:59:40.500 you saying like, it's unseemly to kind of do this. It's, it's not that some, I'm sure

02:59:47.160 that i did um i also did uh when um president bush passed yes

03:00:01.640 yeah the idea of uh they're the dead are are past now and focusing on and saying a bunch of

03:00:12.440 things about them really just is not productive and also just again it's poor manners and ill

03:00:26.700 breeding but also and this cuts both ways and I think is an interesting enough

03:00:34.120 an interesting enough

03:00:38.120 thing.

03:00:40.320 Svon, did you finish the entirety

03:00:42.420 of the

03:00:44.360 passage? No, no, I did not.

03:00:47.320 Okay, I don't want to go over long

03:00:50.500 on this. I'll insert this

03:00:52.380 there and then we'll finish out.

03:00:54.140 But

03:00:54.440 But being in Ausatruar means internalizing the truth that we know in our faith.

03:01:11.940 So, this isn't theoretical or LARPing, so we don't confine Nausitru to the Viking Age or the age of our written lore.

03:01:29.340 We know that if our gods exist, which they do, then certainly they are gods, they are real, therefore they have personality and thought.

03:01:37.640 if they exist clearly they don't just come into existence when old norse becomes the

03:01:45.620 language of our folk they exist prior to that they exist at the beginning of our folk if they created

03:01:51.740 us then they exist as long as our race exists at least so you have to carry logic to things

03:02:04.940 we also believe firmly in life after death we believe that one goes beyond the veil and

03:02:10.300 there's more to your existence we also believe that those beyond the veil have

03:02:16.300 power to affect things on this side of the veil

03:02:23.420 excuse me they have the familiarity not only of the world that we inhabit

03:02:28.780 but of the other world the world beyond uh the undiscovered country

03:02:34.140 so that makes them very powerful they knew know the rules here but they also know the rules there

03:02:48.480 so speaking ill of the dead can get you negative consequences from the other side

03:02:58.320 that you may not be prepared to uh mitigate so when i say that i don't mean you know

03:03:07.660 we are often flippant and don't fully consider what we do a big part of also true that i believe

03:03:17.720 firmly is the concept of arian choosing as noble people we choose our actions

03:03:26.980 we choose our words and by doing so we accept the consequences for those things

03:03:35.860 i've said this in a number of other concepts or uh

03:03:41.300 i've mentioned this here in my bouncing career i would tell the new guys like hey if you want

03:03:47.700 to go pick a fight cool i'm i'm down but don't ever get me in a fight because you stumbled into

03:03:55.220 it being you know not paying attention to the consequence of what you're doing

03:04:00.740 if you know your surroundings you know what you're up against you know the consequence

03:04:05.060 and you choose to take an action okay so be it

03:04:13.140 but often with the living or with the dead we'll say some flip response where we don't think they

03:04:21.300 hear us and then we get all shook when they decide to respond to it um

03:04:35.060 you know i i forget the phrase but like

03:04:41.780 anyways a lot of the time when we are not conscious of the things we do or the things we say

03:04:48.900 day there are unforeseen consequences if you want to speak ill of the dead do so knowing that in

03:05:06.420 hellheim or wherever they find themselves

03:05:11.700 they might not take kindly to your speech and bad luck might uh attach itself to you

03:05:18.260 due to your you know choice that you made this is one of the the truths of our folk but it cuts both

03:05:28.980 ways so your enemies hate you after death and if they're bitter they

03:05:42.420 want to carry over that bitterness towards you after they're passing

03:05:48.260 But you also have allies on the other side as well.

03:05:52.200 You have those that you speak well of after they've passed and those that you've built reputation with that carry that and carry that love for you beyond the veil and look out for your interests.

03:06:07.500 They are able to also know the rules of this world and the next and to act in your favor if they choose.

03:06:16.680 so keep that in mind we very quickly forget when things pass out of sight or out of our kin

03:06:26.200 uh will you know say flippant things as if there's not consequence

03:06:32.780 it's just like being in a room full of people and you know you get on start talking bad-mouthing

03:06:41.180 somebody and it's you know the thing where they they walk up behind you while you're running

03:06:46.000 in your mouth as if, you know, you don't know they're there and you turn around and like,

03:06:49.600 uh-oh, what I meant was there's an element of that to play when dealing with the dead,

03:06:59.820 when dealing with divinity, when dealing with many things. You don't open doors and pick fights

03:07:11.240 with entities that you're not prepared to engage with.

03:07:17.100 And if you do, do so knowing the consequence

03:07:19.980 and doing so heroically and not foolishly

03:07:24.200 for what it's worth.

03:07:27.260 I hope that made some kind of sense.

03:07:28.920 I don't know if it did or not.

03:07:33.280 Well, and again, the whole thing is they would do it to us.

03:07:37.240 Yes, they would.

03:07:38.680 us. We are

03:07:40.740 striving to be better

03:07:44.380 than... They would. Churls do lots of

03:07:46.980 stupid things. 1.00

03:07:48.800 It doesn't mean we ought to wallow 1.00

03:07:50.920 with them in the muck. 0.96

03:07:53.760 We ought to

03:07:54.720 make conscious choices.

03:07:56.940 And if you want to denounce somebody after

03:07:58.720 their passing, by all means, but

03:08:00.640 do so intentionally

03:08:02.260 and not in passing.

03:08:05.280 If you want to make war with

03:08:06.700 somebody, make war with them. But

03:08:08.500 don't stumble into it through you know a loose tongue or or uh you know being flippant or arrogant

03:08:19.140 um so she says to treat the dead and speak not ill of the of the dead and to treat the

03:08:27.540 the corpses and those who are cared after with not reverence but respect um trust never in him

03:08:37.140 who how who thou hast slain his father or his brother or whatsoever kin i though young he be

03:08:46.420 often waxes the wolf inside a youngling i think that's pretty straightforward um

03:08:55.700 look thou with good heed to the wild because i think it's worth saying

03:09:01.380 Yes, it makes sense, but it doesn't necessarily mean to be the most pragmatic in what that conclusion would be.

03:09:20.640 It does mean keep your head on a swivel and keep an eye on those people.

03:09:26.760 because well and i say this and this may sound silly on this broadcast or whatever and certainly

03:09:35.780 it doesn't necessarily have a a modern a lot of modern context certainly in the west and other

03:09:43.840 parts of the world it very much does um the smart play oftentimes is if you have an enemy and you 0.99

03:09:53.580 kill him, kill his whole family or anybody who cared about him. So you don't look over your 0.71

03:09:59.920 shoulder for people looking after vengeance later down the road. This doesn't mean you have to do

03:10:06.860 that but it does mean you have to be cautious was john leguizamo's character name in scarface

03:10:31.340 somebody's gonna remember this and know exactly what i'm talking about

03:10:34.140 about sometimes we are very casual in deeply insulting people that are small that we don't

03:10:45.600 make note of and then we take our eyes off those people we go throughout our lives and

03:10:54.240 they catch us slipping later down the line and bad things happen to us we should be wise

03:11:02.760 in all things and wise when we make enemies that we know who those enemies are connected to

03:11:12.280 and that we keep eyes on them in the future or else it's very easy to get comfortable thinking

03:11:18.840 that we've i don't know thinking that we have eliminated our foes and we're in a spot where

03:11:27.880 we're safe and we don't remember that there's kinfolk to those people those people have friends

03:11:34.520 those people have families and if we if we are casual with our doling out of insult

03:11:46.440 and then we are not cautious down the line people who have been injured in some way have a very long

03:11:56.040 memory and i think it's very valuable for us to keep that in mind

03:12:08.760 i was looking over the chat because a couple of comments came up

03:12:14.200 all right cool so carry on i just i think this wisdom here is really important

03:12:20.520 And and I know we're kind of I am kind of overly jumping on some of it, but I think it's really interesting and it's it's really valuable to me, at least.

03:12:33.780 Well, this next one, I find interesting as well.

03:12:37.340 She says, look now with good heed to the wiles of thy friends.

03:12:41.600 Pay attention to the actions of your friends.

03:12:44.360 But little skill is given to me that I should foresee the ways of thy life.

03:12:48.260 so she says pay attention to your friends and then there's this ominous i don't see forward in

03:12:56.180 but that's all she will say about it so this this verse here is kind of giving wisdom to the

03:13:05.300 listener but also foreshadowing what's to come and it's also worth noting that sigurd already knows

03:13:13.620 what's to come and continues on anyways but she says you know look look with good heed to the

03:13:20.700 wiles of thy friends whoever you take friendship with take note of their deal good and take note

03:13:26.880 of the bad in which that which they do then but then she kind of backs off and says i mean not

03:13:32.120 that i can see anything coming because i don't know that which again is that foreshadow and then

03:13:37.820 she lays down again, yet good it were that, yet good it were that hate fell not upon thee from

03:13:46.460 thy wife's house. So it is good too for you not to gain ire and to stir up hatred from your in-laws

03:13:59.760 is what she's saying. And the best way I can really view that too is that it's, sometimes

03:14:05.480 people will hate you, but it is best that you do not create a reason for people to hate you.

03:14:13.060 It's different if they hate you for unjust or wrong reasons, but if you are causing things.

03:14:21.480 And Sigurd speaks now, but remember that last part is foreshadowing. Sigurd spoke,

03:14:27.780 None among the sons of men can be found wiser than thou

03:14:32.220 And thereby swear I that thee will I have as my own

03:14:37.580 For near my heart thou liest

03:14:40.160 So he says there are none that are wiser than you

03:14:43.080 And you have struck my heart

03:14:45.240 You are, I am in love with you

03:14:47.440 She answers

03:14:49.900 Thee would I fainest choose

03:14:54.040 Though I had all the men's sons to choose from 0.80

03:14:57.540 So I would certainly choose you above all men.

03:15:00.360 And thereto they plighted trough, both of them together.

03:15:05.320 The end of the chapter.

03:15:09.060 All right.

03:15:09.920 So the heron of forgetfulness flutters over the mead feasts.

03:15:16.560 I was not talking about Scarface.

03:15:18.380 I was talking about Carlito's Way.

03:15:19.780 And I was talking about Benny Blanco.

03:15:21.080 go that's the thing is stuff you did in your past that you don't pay attention to

03:15:29.240 people still hold grudges for a long time bad things can happen to you

03:15:37.220 um but yeah it's figured out correct that that's a uh that's all for our reading tonight

03:15:42.740 we covered a lot of meat tonight I think I don't think that we you know advanced a

03:15:49.340 a vast number of chapters but this is very dense with meaning and very dense with um

03:16:00.860 things that are applicable to our understanding of the rest of the lore and to in many ways uh

03:16:10.380 living our living our lives uh swan is going to use the restroom for a moment 0.98

03:16:19.340 Or however long it takes them, I suppose.

03:16:22.380 I am going to try to see if there's some questions.

03:16:27.300 It would be good for me to just hit without him here.

03:16:34.680 So, Tyler, can anyone visit a Hoff or do you have to be a member to check one out? 0.86

03:16:40.920 No, anyone can visit one of our Hoffs.

03:16:44.060 If you want to drive by and check one out, they are all on Google Maps.

03:16:49.340 which is cool um you can type it in and find it but if you mentioned to any of our folk builders

03:16:57.180 we would be happy to set up a time to show folks around and let you see what's what if anybody is

03:17:04.940 interested we're very proud of our hoffs we're happy to show those off to uh you know whoever

03:17:10.060 has a sincere interest you don't have to be a member if you are a member then they're they're

03:17:16.700 your hoffs as well and we would really love to help welcome you to

03:17:25.260 you know our hoffs and to show you around and and let you

03:17:32.300 take the time you need to commune and to worship there if you are not a member but you're curious

03:17:38.140 we're very happy to show them off and to uh

03:17:41.500 let you see what an Alcetruhoff is like and let you take a look.

03:17:49.560 So, yeah, please reach out to any of our Gothar or to Nick or myself 1.00

03:17:53.680 and we can get you connected to the right person

03:17:55.580 if you have a particular hoff you wanted to go see.

03:17:59.580 Svan has returned.

03:18:04.820 Don't know what he's drinking.

03:18:06.060 I don't know if it's a body armor.

03:18:07.420 I hope it's a body armor because those are delicious and full of good vitamins.

03:18:11.500 Yeah. All right. Well done. Good choice.

03:18:17.680 So Tyler from an email, sent an email. All right. Good enough time. If any of you have questions

03:18:24.460 that you'd like us to answer at any time they strike you, vns at runestone.org. Those questions

03:18:34.100 get to us nick compiles them and i will make sure they get answered the very next show

03:18:43.460 and tyler took me up on that and emailed this question hey there question for you

03:18:49.460 as a parent who has values that align with those of the afa what are some practical ways to protect

03:18:56.900 your children from the craziness of the outside world while still not becoming totally insular

03:19:03.380 and uh retreating from what is the best way to raise children who will not only be able to

03:19:09.780 maintain sanity in the world but also be conquerors of it much love to the afa and thanks for all you

03:19:16.740 do so swan as a father of three what would you say to tyler i think the biggest thing is to not

03:19:27.380 shelter your children at all i'm not saying thrust them in and inundate them constantly

03:19:33.700 with things that they can't emotionally um withstand but um you know discussing things

03:19:43.860 that are going on discussing events speaking to them about it and telling them that this is your

03:19:50.020 opinion and uh you know because that's a big one is a lot of times i think parents just

03:19:57.140 state things and then later on children go against that simply because um and it's unfortunate in a

03:20:05.060 lot of the nature of children today um whereas when you have an opportunity to excuse me to

03:20:14.420 discuss with them a situation or an idea um i think over time they they come to understand

03:20:23.460 and a lot of things these these ideals these concepts when we're talking about protecting

03:20:27.940 them from the world um is that they can very easily see and now i mean of course we have to

03:20:35.460 be careful and teach them about you know fake things going on um people trying to like i was

03:20:42.740 just talking to my son earlier today about fake uh police body cams going off where there there's

03:20:52.420 some group that's making completely fake body cam videos of a police officer interacting with a

03:21:02.100 lawyer or what have you and it's it's very bunk so there is that but on top of that understanding

03:21:08.500 that people have agendas to, to speak about things. And, um, so, you know, being very open

03:21:15.320 and just light, don't want to hit them so heavy that they can't, there's a sense of desperation

03:21:22.460 in it. Um, I generally find it when I'm perhaps just looking through and one of my children is

03:21:31.440 over my shoulder, trying to see what dad's looking at. And I'll take that time. What do

03:21:37.280 you think about this or look what this is what these people are saying um you know i and and

03:21:43.900 then also filling in with i believe they might be trying to gain or push some narrative or something

03:21:50.660 like that and that repetition that tempo that you set um will inundate onto your children to allow

03:21:59.660 them to think and see through things it's not this is the way i think and this is the way you should

03:22:05.940 think immediately all the time, but no, make it more of a conversation that inundates them to

03:22:10.260 the truth. And the way you think about seeking the truth, it will help them. It will guide them

03:22:19.800 in a much more natural and organic pathway, as opposed to simply just enforcing and not letting

03:22:28.720 them understand why or what is going on around them and again that has so much of a drastic

03:22:35.940 effect later on when they come to reality and they see it um but i mean now in the day of video

03:22:42.960 you can see so much that will just again inundate knowledge upon the child you have to be careful

03:22:52.600 to to not let the child because children are very very quick to see things very black and white and

03:23:02.200 they will immediately uh harbor into uh entrench themselves into an opinion and also they will

03:23:09.580 often do it to please you and you have to encourage them to see things on their own standing

03:23:16.900 not to do it just simply to please you, but to become aware with you or for them to grow an

03:23:24.840 awareness with you and why you see things the way they are. I think that's the best way to go. And

03:23:31.400 I don't know what age really I would recommend that. I mean, I'm certain when making man making

03:23:37.800 those, those are very important things. And, um, you know, when they're younger, again,

03:23:43.760 they have a tendency to entrench themselves in an opinion to please you. And they will say things

03:23:49.600 off the cuff that have very little thought. And I think that we should avoid that. I think that

03:23:56.280 we should try to teach them about how to learn and how to question and how to see the revelations

03:24:04.020 that we as parents have, and that they join us and that we unify that together. Another huge

03:24:12.200 part is and this is not a plug but it is a plug um i would recommend that everyone look at i bought

03:24:20.600 these children books um called uh from cubs to bears and this gentleman is uh he writes children's

03:24:30.020 books but his big um call is to history and the awareness of propaganda the awareness of greed

03:24:38.780 And how it, you know, the dangers of both capitalism and communism as a concept for children to understand.

03:24:50.840 He broaches these things in his books.

03:24:54.120 And I find his, especially, I think he's predominantly on Instagram, very enlightening.

03:25:00.140 And he is, again, trudging up old sediment from the rivers of history in order to teach people about things. He was talking about Hindenburg and his critique of the crony capitalists selling out their working forces and stuff like that.

03:25:25.500 And actually, the government removed the plates that he had, that the printing press had.

03:25:32.700 They went that far so that it could never be printed again.

03:25:35.560 And that kind of stuff I find infinitely fascinating.

03:25:38.500 And I think our children should learn a lot from history in that way.

03:25:44.080 I think it's a great way for them to apply things to the now.

03:25:48.940 so

03:25:52.780 I don't want to over speak

03:25:58.120 my daughter's five

03:26:00.100 but

03:26:05.460 since

03:26:08.400 becoming a father

03:26:09.600 I've given this a lot of thought

03:26:12.020 so you start

03:26:15.340 your question

03:26:17.320 and stipulating that you are a parent who has values that align with those in the AFA

03:26:24.340 join the AFA and I say this I'll answer your question I appreciate you watching

03:26:30.940 the show and asking whatever you decide to do um but

03:26:42.460 I say this for a couple of reasons

03:26:47.320 So getting your family involved with other families that share our values and our worldview is very buttressing for your children.

03:27:00.180 If they, you know, when inevitably they feel an instinct to rebel against their parents, because whatever, this isn't just some strange idiosyncrasy of their father.

03:27:15.360 this is something that families that they grew up with share this is a worldview that other adults

03:27:24.880 that aren't their parents that they are raised with and around

03:27:28.320 share this is something that they have friends that share

03:27:34.940 when this is an isolated

03:27:39.260 strange thing that dad does it's very easy to target and revolt against when feeling the need

03:27:50.560 to test one's boundaries or to rebel against parental authority which is a frustrating but

03:27:57.540 natural process in young men and women coming into their own as adults or as young adults

03:28:05.260 the other thing is

03:28:08.080 don't

03:28:09.760 make your kids hate you

03:28:12.460 I have known

03:28:19.960 many people

03:28:22.000 who feel so very passionately

03:28:26.100 about issues

03:28:27.840 that they

03:28:30.060 force feed them to their

03:28:32.160 kids with

03:28:34.140 such a intensity

03:28:36.740 that their kids

03:28:39.620 instinctively reject it

03:28:42.200 but they don't just kind of

03:28:44.100 reject it

03:28:44.900 they go as far

03:28:48.300 as they can the opposite

03:28:49.840 direction to demonstrate

03:28:52.360 their rejection of it

03:28:54.040 and 0.98

03:28:56.180 they do it

03:28:57.200 sometimes they make choices

03:29:00.280 that they can't unmake

03:29:02.000 and that's very unfortunate

03:29:06.000 so I wouldn't say

03:29:11.460 you don't want your objections to things

03:29:17.300 to come off as angry to your children

03:29:20.840 or to come off as irrational to your children

03:29:25.000 as Svon was saying

03:29:28.640 get them to understand things

03:29:32.720 And one of the things in our favor is we're right.

03:29:38.120 And I know everybody probably says that,

03:29:42.940 but we have the benefit of being accurate when we say it.

03:29:48.780 The expression that life has a way of red-pilling people does.

03:29:53.880 If you shelter your children over much,

03:29:59.140 They will conceive of the world in a theoretical construct that is primed for the altruistic nature of our folk to take root in a unhealthy way.

03:30:18.480 when children live and have a home base that is removed from the bad things of the world that's

03:30:31.120 great but they need to go out on safari every now and again into the wilds of the world in a

03:30:37.820 protected way where they see things as they are they see reality they see how the world works

03:30:45.960 And when they observe these things and have questions or concerns, you're able to provide clarity and provide commentary on why things might be the way they are.

03:30:58.800 It is really important that you don't become the villainous stereotype that the other team would have us believe that people who share our values are.

03:31:15.960 Don't buy into that.

03:31:18.640 And it's very easy to give vent, especially in your home, to your frustrations.

03:31:29.880 But you don't want your children to see you as a mean-spirited person.

03:31:35.420 You don't want your children to see you as an angry or a hateful person.

03:31:40.820 And I'll say this aside.

03:31:42.520 don't be an angry and hateful person if you find yourself there talk to one of our go far and let's

03:31:51.420 work on that have them all advises us to be glad men and brave under the day of our death

03:31:58.520 the all father lives in glad time the home of joy if we're sitting around angry all the time

03:32:08.060 that's something we need to heal ourselves and not pass on to our children because we don't

03:32:12.060 want them to feel that way. A lot of us, depending on when you have children in your life, I had

03:32:19.520 children late. I was 39. My wife and I were both 39 when we had Aubrey. You get bitter

03:32:32.240 and beat down by things that you don't like in life. And it is easy to like, by damn, 0.99

03:32:41.140 i'm not gonna let my kids have to deal with stuff i dealt with and then you 0.98

03:32:48.660 front load them with the bitterness that you have spent your life acquiring

03:32:56.180 and they don't deserve that they deserve the lessons that you've learned

03:33:02.740 without the pain that you've incurred through the learning

03:33:11.140 i apologize uh as the evening wears on my coughing is getting worse but um

03:33:26.980 that's something that mandy and i have talked a lot about is

03:33:33.140 we don't want to fill aubrey's head with

03:33:37.700 with all the things that have you know pissed us off over our adulthood that's not helpful

03:33:47.900 um but explaining why we think the things that we think

03:33:54.620 and more importantly providing her with the touchstones

03:34:00.320 within Ausitru to hearken back to

03:34:04.780 that are good things and good times.

03:34:09.060 When she is out in the world,

03:34:11.580 this is my hope.

03:34:14.700 When she goes off on her own into the world

03:34:18.420 in whatever way she does as an adult or teenager

03:34:21.380 or whatever else,

03:34:22.680 I want her to think of her home

03:34:26.500 and the values that she's raised with,

03:34:28.860 the Austro Folk Assembly, our church, our faith, our gods,

03:34:34.400 as sources for strength and for happiness

03:34:37.720 and for fond memories that she has had in her upbringing

03:34:41.780 to come back to and to come home to.

03:34:46.220 I think that's very important we provide that.

03:34:51.240 The other thing that I'll say that is, I guess,

03:34:55.300 a counterpoint to some of my hey be nice and be happy raise your kids i have heard with disgust

03:35:09.140 this attitude of well let my kids make their own decision when they grow up and they can think for

03:35:14.020 themselves no that's your job as a parent to raise your children yes when they are adults

03:35:23.780 they can make those decisions for themselves up to and until they are it is your job to teach them

03:35:34.660 right from wrong and to guide them in developing their core values that is your job more morally

03:35:45.380 biologically spiritually do not abdicate your responsibility as a parent because it's just

03:35:53.540 easier to let it slide. You owe your children better than that. We owe our children better 0.77

03:36:03.580 than that. Take an active role in spiritually leading your family. Unless there is some

03:36:11.480 other unqualifying thing. And here's the deal. Gay people, you are welcome to listen to this

03:36:18.560 program, and I hope it provides some value to you. Folks that are not white people, you're welcome 0.97

03:36:26.560 to listen to this program. I hope that you enjoy it. I'd be glad to answer any of your questions.

03:36:32.080 So, Tyler, if there is some reason that you're not an AFA member, okay. But if there's not,

03:36:38.880 get on the team and let's raise our kids together that's what's the community

03:36:48.720 that your children are able to develop is i believe and i more than believe i am investing

03:36:56.320 my daughter's future in that factor is going to be a huge help for her to have a place to come home to

03:37:06.240 and a moral compass and a behavioral compass

03:37:13.220 as she grows and learns the depth and breadth of the world that she lives in.

03:37:23.580 And I think that's the best we can hope for.

03:37:25.360 But community and faith in the gods goes a long way towards establishing permanence in the values that you want to impart to your children, in my belief.

03:37:40.340 Again, talked a long time for a guy who has a five-year-old daughter.

03:37:45.660 So I am aware, many of you may have different thoughts that have adult children or maybe you guys have grandchildren.

03:37:55.360 So please, I'm not trying to preach to you guys like I know better.

03:38:00.160 I'm just telling you things that I've thought about and my wife and I have discussed a lot when the reality sets in that we have a daughter that we're raising and she's going to be in the world.

03:38:10.780 And what do we want to, you know, what's our best course to do our best job as parents?

03:38:25.360 So, question about Sigurheim.

03:38:30.100 Will there be a home there dedicated to the current Ausheri Goethe, like a rectory at a Catholic church has for priests?

03:38:40.800 Not today.

03:38:43.200 Perhaps, eventually, there are legalities and things that we are very much looking into.

03:38:50.060 you there are rights that churches have in relation to these things and there are also

03:38:59.780 differences in those rights if your church is an ethnically exclusive church so we're examining

03:39:07.280 those things the first step is the current also here you go if he and his family are going to

03:39:12.080 a home in the county um if you're out west when you think of a county don't think of like a

03:39:21.920 municipal area uh back east counties are really small jackson county i don't know that there's

03:39:30.160 any place you could be in jackson county that's more than 30 minutes from another place in jackson

03:39:36.240 county so uh it's like being in the same city um but yeah we're going to move to that county

03:39:45.200 we're going to get as many of our folk who would like to move to that county with us

03:39:49.920 and we're going to build the capital of the astro folk assembly in that county with

03:39:56.000 you know ideally weekly or better attendance at our someday hoff and someday great hall

03:40:04.240 uh i'm really looking forward to getting getting back out there and spending time there

03:40:09.280 and as we speak my wife and i are trying to arrange our life to where we can get out there as soon as

03:40:15.440 possible gofi east wants to know how is each hof given its no i'm nick

03:40:33.360 okay cool go the east wants to know how is each hof given its uh uh hail gammoth

03:40:44.240 and

03:40:48.240 so

03:40:56.560 there's a okay there's a combination of things that's why i'm trying to

03:40:59.600 to collect my thoughts on it um combinations of things go into play so each hof has

03:41:13.280 a rune that is based on the order that the hof is that's static

03:41:20.560 each hof has a particular order that we are dedicating those hofs to the gods that's

03:41:25.600 currently in place and set in stone but as far as the um

03:41:38.320 kinfilia of the hof as far as the the animal heads for the for the cross uh cross gables

03:41:45.520 as far as the colors and as far as the uh

03:41:49.440 uh hail Gamader uh of the Hoff or the uh the hero that's being venerated at that Hoff there's

03:41:58.500 more at play there um we are trying to I try to as best as I can leave some of those things

03:42:07.920 open to the gothar of that district to decide as far as color as far as

03:42:13.020 um the animal represented as far as those kind of things and I'm also very open to their input

03:42:21.780 as far as what a hero will be honored there so

03:42:31.020 the idea of having an altar to one of our heroes in these Hoffs has uh was was my idea so it

03:42:43.500 odin's hof predates that so the first hero that we recognized as a hof hero

03:42:49.980 was alexander rudd mills at thor's hof now i believe swan was the one that chose orange as

03:42:57.820 their color and the black bear it was important to me to choose alexander rudd mills as the hero for

03:43:07.420 that off because i wanted to acknowledge a couple of things um

03:43:21.020 that our heroes weren't all based in the viking age that this gentleman was a pioneer for our faith

03:43:31.340 in the modern age completely isolated from anyone else who was you know trying to do this or

03:43:40.060 anything similar he struck out on his own as a modern man wearing suit and tie and doing modern

03:43:47.660 things he was a he was a barrister in australia and he had the the courage and the faith to

03:43:56.860 establish the anglican church of odin in uh in australia at a time where no one else was doing

03:44:04.540 this and i wanted to honor him for that and that was really important to me so that was my choice

03:44:15.180 it was also my choice to honor um

03:44:18.060 maestro guido von list at uh othenshof and i did that because

03:44:31.980 maestro von list vowed as a very young man

03:44:37.420 i think he vowed as a boy actually that one day he would dedicate a temple to othin

03:44:44.940 on his awakening to, you know, proto-Ausatrim.

03:44:50.740 And he made that vow, and that didn't happen in his lifetime.

03:44:56.900 But he set a lot of currents in motion that brought us to where we are,

03:45:03.580 that inspired and fueled us to achieve many of the things that we've achieved.

03:45:10.720 and so i wanted to posthumously

03:45:15.040 acknowledge him in that dedication of that hoff to odin um

03:45:22.240 originally odin's hoff was uh

03:45:27.360 new grange hall that's what um the previous else harry do if your founder steve mcnalen had named it

03:45:34.720 and a few years into it due to some legal things we needed to change the name and it was very

03:45:44.800 important to me that this wasn't like the because up to that point this was the half

03:45:52.960 because we didn't have other hoffs and i don't

03:45:56.080 think that the idea of other Hoffs was thought about much by our founder I think the idea of

03:46:07.840 making it to one Hoff was such a big deal that there wasn't plans in the works for others

03:46:16.240 when I became all's Harry Goofy it was very important to me that Odin's Hoff be the first

03:46:23.080 in a series of hoffs uh hopefully a sequence of pops that never ends but certainly the first in

03:46:33.160 a series of hops and it was important to me to name that first off to to dedicate it to the alpha

03:46:41.080 and in doing so i wanted to posthumously fulfill maestro von liszt's vow to establish that temple

03:46:48.920 to owe them and so that's why i wanted to honor him there

03:46:54.920 um at baldershoff it was important to a number of the people in that area

03:47:02.760 who some of them had corresponded with the folk mother lc christensen

03:47:09.480 she had had an effect on a number of their lives and she also

03:47:13.000 So in living memory was somebody who corresponded with our founder,

03:47:18.660 who interacted with people who were still around to make this happen.

03:47:23.160 And so we wanted to acknowledge and celebrate the folk brother,

03:47:27.260 Elsie Christensen at that home.

03:47:31.380 As far as Njordshof and Rauther being their Hof hero,

03:47:39.300 that was left to the gothar in that district and i believe gothe lane ashby was the one that wanted

03:47:47.460 to champion him as as the the hero they wanted to celebrate at their half and i'm in full support of

03:47:55.380 that so it's a mixture of things there have been ones that have been particular things i wanted to

03:48:03.700 make happen. Others have been left to the Gothar of that district to find a hero that

03:48:09.140 was very important to them to venerate at their Hoff. It's a, it's a combination of things.

03:48:15.480 question

03:48:29.320 any book recommendations

03:48:31.040 to give the best breakdown

03:48:33.060 of the female archetypes

03:48:35.260 or goddesses of the lore

03:48:37.320 besides the prose and poetic

03:48:39.500 eddis

03:48:40.000 I need more than popular

03:48:43.220 interpretations of Wagner's

03:48:45.320 lane cycle. Svahn, what are your thoughts? Well, remember the divine inspire the archetype.

03:48:54.000 The archetype does not define the divine. Or another way you could look at it too is that

03:49:01.400 the archetype is our perception of something that is often unperceivable or fully comprehensible.

03:49:09.780 But if you are looking at the divine beings of our people as simply archetypes, I would implore you to try to look away or around this conception.

03:49:30.060 um however unfortunately the abilities of of certain writers and certain folk have have

03:49:42.860 not extensively written a lot on their relation or their the relations or founding lore on the

03:49:51.780 goddesses very scant um you'll find more on frig and freya than you will on any of the other

03:50:02.380 um and again just because it wasn't written largely about does not mean that there wasn't

03:50:10.120 a corpus or body connected to it just like the owl's nib um but the unfortunate thing is is that

03:50:20.340 a lot of this comes from personal interaction along with or parallel to observation through

03:50:29.220 lore. So when you go out there on the internet, you might find people who charade in Ausatru

03:50:39.300 to push their political ideologies, and you'll find them writing a lot of things

03:50:47.620 based on the goddesses, and you can pretty much weed them out pretty swiftly

03:50:53.960 when you see them introducing ideas that were not conceptual

03:50:56.800 or even antithetical to the goddesses.

03:51:01.300 One in particular is if you go to a website,

03:51:03.920 and I'm not saying a specific website, but any website,

03:51:06.600 in which it lists the Ausenir, and one specifically is the Ausenir Lofn,

03:51:13.460 l-o-f-n and uh somewhere along the way in the in the 90s um some embittered left-wing cat lady 0.98

03:51:24.120 decided that um associated with homosexual marriage and it clearly states that she's

03:51:33.640 talking about making amends between a man and a woman and um especially between their families

03:51:42.060 families that are egregious against each other and we generally even though it's not stated in

03:51:48.900 the lore have looked at her as the the goddess of amendments between a husband and a wife if

03:51:56.700 they're attempting to re-salvage their marriage or if the family's turmoil is tearing things apart

03:52:04.300 so there's a lot of that that um is is again written about from personal experience and

03:52:14.580 observation and it is a very very road and unfortunately the truth of it is there isn't a lot

03:52:21.720 um and again because they're so scant in the lore that if you were to read a say if i wrote a way

03:52:30.020 and I can do it because just because I can stretch a word out if I if I wrote a weighty volume about

03:52:38.000 the maidens a lot of that would be coming from my personal faith and interaction and practice

03:52:46.580 with these divine beings and it would only have you know spread out substantive things from the 0.73

03:52:57.880 lore um and you go even further back and it gets even more scant when we talk about other goddesses

03:53:06.040 or oust veneer who are uh local uh divine beings um prayed to or deified beings we we might not

03:53:17.560 even know christianity was quite thorough in destroying that so the astro folk assembly

03:53:23.080 took it upon itself to create order with a lot of the chaos going on and the hierarchy that we uh 0.98

03:53:31.960 place our gods in is not the way the gods are it's the way we've observed them to be or at least

03:53:39.480 we are delicately and humbly saying this is how we kind of see this from the tripartite down to

03:53:46.120 the to the gods to the senior to the house for near to the heavenly wardens who are locked into

03:53:51.720 their celestial duties. So a lot of these things outside of that are, again, to give our folks

03:53:58.820 structure and to give them an understanding of like a roadmap, but it certainly does not explain

03:54:05.540 the scenery along the way of them. It's the roadmap. The experience of reaching out and

03:54:14.360 asking for the divine to come forth to you uh is the the scenery is the learning of the nuances

03:54:21.640 of the road and that i think first and foremost will come to you if you alleviate yourself of

03:54:27.080 considering the guts to simply be archetypes but that's a personal journey that you have to go on

03:54:33.560 um and then you know the the validation and understanding that the validation is

03:54:39.960 is to you you can share it with others um and certainly uh if it is divinely you know imbued

03:54:50.680 upon you um i i would hope you would share it with others but you still have to understand that

03:54:56.120 it's so scant that our um our relationship is a new with the goddesses um their cults are extremely

03:55:05.080 bear of written lore but again if you look at say for instance the holy house in your air

03:55:16.740 the goddess of healing and we can see we've been talking about leaks craft and leech craft and

03:55:23.720 um the usage of of holistic medicines and dietary things we can look at the

03:55:29.900 the medicinal practices of the goths and the medicinal practices of the anglo-sex

03:55:34.720 And from that, even though there's absolutely no mention about her, we can see her influence upon our people and then work our way back from there.

03:55:45.240 So a lot of that is kind of that growth that we're going on.

03:55:52.900 You know, that's one of the biggest problems is that our faith was completely kind of socially severed.

03:56:03.080 not i wouldn't say spiritually i think the gods have always been with us it's just that socially

03:56:09.400 our generations have lost a kind of the the worth of of lore but as we get to know them again and

03:56:19.080 again they can't be archetypes if we're literally getting to know them or you could say like we are

03:56:24.200 exploring our archetypes but um if they have the divine will to be perceived by us with the intent

03:56:33.240 of teaching us then we will learn from them and i think that's what we're doing right now

03:56:41.480 um

03:56:41.800 um so yes to everything spawn said it's and we we use language and and some of our answers

03:56:58.680 I've said this before and I'll continue to say it for folks listening for the first time

03:57:04.600 a lot of the time we answer these questions not for the person asking certainly for them

03:57:10.040 but also for the broader audience so we're not jumping on you because you use the term archetypes

03:57:16.840 that's fine there are role models or blueprints for appropriate femininity that we find

03:57:28.220 explained and exemplified by our goddesses in the lore and spawn talked about that

03:57:36.020 What I would also say, not for the goddesses, but for good female archetypal understanding and behavior, is to read The Lady with the Mead Cup.

03:57:57.560 Now, this is a slog, The Lady with the Mead Cup.

03:58:03.200 prophecy and lordship in europe in the european war base from latane to the viking age by michael

03:58:12.240 j enright it is not a fun or exciting read it is dry it is repetitive it's probably three times

03:58:23.880 longer than it ought to be but it's valuable and it talks about women of status in alsatru and

03:58:37.880 what that looked like and i think that is the best source for what you are asking for

03:58:46.040 so i would encourage you to give that a read and

03:58:53.880 would encourage you not only to give it a read but to do the wikipedia click links thing go down that

03:59:02.920 rabbit hole that book talks about a few select examples that it weaves through the narrative

03:59:11.880 over and over again find those examples and look up more about them use that as your platform to

03:59:20.520 go down rabbit holes about the women mentioned in that book i think that will go a long way 1.00

03:59:28.280 towards what you're trying to achieve um piggybacks on another question about

03:59:36.680 uh women in general in the in the viking age

03:59:41.880 i thought i saw it but every time um my internet dropped out i would come back in and all the

03:59:52.980 queue would only be from the time i joined back in all right so i don't necessarily see

04:00:00.140 what you're looking for what i do see is this question if someone made then donated a four

04:00:10.940 acre or so grove

04:00:12.960 dedicated to a goddess,

04:00:15.760 especially if

04:00:16.980 it's somewhat near a hoth,

04:00:19.180 would you take it?

04:00:21.420 That seems mighty

04:00:22.880 specific.

04:00:26.400 It's very specific

04:00:28.440 and my answer is

04:00:31.080 going to be very...

04:00:35.720 Details matter.

04:00:40.940 In general, if anyone wants to donate anything to the Alistair Folk Assembly, the answer is always yes.

04:00:50.460 But this becomes very specific.

04:00:55.840 If you were to donate, if you were to have already made a sacred grove and already dedicated it to a goddess,

04:01:05.820 and then donated it to us, we would need to have a conversation to make sure that we

04:01:16.900 maintained that obligation and were able to.

04:01:24.200 Somewhat near a hof is very vague. 0.57

04:01:26.700 If it's a block from a hof, probably yes. 0.59

04:01:32.260 We could walk from the Hoff there, maintain it, do a ceremony when appropriate. 1.00

04:01:39.920 Sure. 0.75

04:01:41.340 If, you know, 100 miles from a Hoff, we may or may not have people that are able to maintain it and care for it.

04:01:53.920 If it was like, well, it's either donating it to you guys or I'm going to have to sell it or get rid of it some other way,

04:02:00.480 we would probably say yes and we would do the best we could to maintain the sanctity

04:02:07.680 it all depends the the details really matter the answer is most likely yes but i would really want

04:02:16.880 to know a lot of the specifics and other things before i commit to it and that's not to be a jerk

04:02:25.600 like first if you want to donate such thing the astro folk assembly thank you not just 0.64

04:02:32.160 for your donation but for your entrusting us with something sacred

04:02:39.360 your confidence in us to entrust something sacred to us is the exact reason that

04:02:47.120 i would need to know more details before i committed to but thank you for wanting to

04:02:52.960 do something like that at least in concept and if that's something you actually plan

04:02:58.480 to do i would really encourage you to reach out and i'd like to talk to you more about it

04:03:05.120 because you know

04:03:08.480 my answer is likely yes but i can't commit until i know the details

04:03:14.400 uh do you think that old disney movies like snow white and seven dwarves

04:03:23.440 were good or bad adaptations of the folk world swan

04:03:28.400 the disney version um wow that's kind of a that's a cool question i think it's because i made

04:03:35.920 mention of the of the bernie and the the corset um you know what i think that disney

04:03:44.200 is a snapshot into the zenith of a coalition of aryan culture in america we we don't have

04:03:54.480 just the franks or just the hellenics or just the slavs or just these kind of segregated groups by

04:04:01.560 geomet or geometric geo and political divisions no in america there's this coalescence of of um

04:04:12.460 um Aryan peoples from the the Gaulish and the Slavic and the and the Germanic and so on coming

04:04:18.520 together and what they achieved in the 1950s is damn near uh unbelievable now that you know

04:04:27.260 Detroit was a city of the future it was um a massive paramount uh testament to the uh abilities

04:04:36.660 of our society and now it's almost completely in traversable um so the the 50s really is a snapshot

04:04:46.980 or a remaking of the perhaps that you know the the medieval time period fairy tales and they're

04:04:55.060 placed in in a medium that is so scientifically advanced for its time with animation and then

04:05:01.300 also too there's this removing of kind of the harsh realities that are shaped by the medieval

04:05:07.460 world um hansel and gretel of course you know being put out in the forest because everyone's

04:05:13.300 going to die from the plague or from starvation um and instead there's this unique emphasis of

04:05:19.700 what was truly important to our people at the time snow white is a perfect example of this with her

04:05:26.980 um agreeable lovable and caretaking nature being the very thing that spurns people on to be better 0.98

04:05:37.020 that is a unique feminine form that is very powerful in its femininity that we can see now 1.00

04:05:46.080 is you know absolutely seething in the the modern left-wing feminist concept they cannot just 1.00

04:05:55.220 conceive of femininity being this ability to support through good nature and bright soul 1.00

04:06:06.180 in turn makes everyone around her want to be better. So I really do think that those

04:06:17.340 those uh stories were snapshots of some of that not all of them i'm i'm certainly thinking you

04:06:25.660 know there was some darker aspects and things kind of going on reminiscent from after the war um if

04:06:32.140 we're talking about like um the sorcerer's apprentice and stuff like that or certainly

04:06:38.460 at least there was some pushing back against the semitic nominative um religious overtones

04:06:48.860 that were laid on society at that time and there was kind of this undercurrent of um

04:06:56.220 the the folk wanting to break out from underneath the yoke of a lot of those

04:07:02.140 concepts um but at the same time a lot of those concepts from christianity european christianity

04:07:08.300 specifically not just christianity in general um we're coming to a time about the unification of

04:07:16.060 people about the way that they saw things but it's just this divergent point it was like right around

04:07:20.940 that time too that the you know i think people started to see our government as maybe not having

04:07:27.900 the welfare of its people so in holy intact and there was this crossover between loving your

04:07:34.060 country and then seeing your government do certain things and it really kind of started

04:07:39.100 right after world war ii and um so it's i find that all of that stuff very very interesting so we

04:07:47.100 you take that mindset you take those people and then what they apply to a germanic folk tale

04:07:54.620 and now you look at it and what they're applying to germanic folk tales today

04:07:58.700 by making them the leads non-germanic they're clearly trying to you know partake in uh folk

04:08:07.100 erasure uh all of that's relevant today just as much as what they were producing then is relevant

04:08:14.060 um a snapshot if you will of of the minds behind the work new disney is gross

04:08:22.780 unless you look at the non 0.77

04:08:32.220 it's funny and sad at the same time

04:08:39.100 moana's awesome if you're a polynesian it's sad that we aren't allowed to also have white moana 0.66

04:08:48.860 and I don't mean like a literally whitewashing Moana but a similar tale of white people

04:08:57.680 because I don't begrudge Moana I think it's awesome and if I was a Polynesian I would 0.50

04:09:04.160 really like that and want my child to watch that um we've seen that a number of times with Disney

04:09:11.840 disney non-white cultures in modern disney are able to have really cool things that are empowering

04:09:20.720 to them and disney i think messed up or whatever when they made frozen because the original

04:09:28.320 frozen is very empowering to to white people and and my daughter loves it and it's really good

04:09:35.600 in a lot of ways um then part disney is currently at war with our folk

04:09:44.000 and with traditional values and all their forms i wish it wasn't so and the founder of disney would

04:09:52.720 not approve uh stuff back in waltz day i think was good i think was good for our folk i think stuff

04:10:02.560 pre-world war ii was definitely good things for our folk though you know that more dated things

04:10:09.600 are the less engaging they are for a modern audience um in their production quality and

04:10:15.440 everything else i think snow white the original snow white not new diverse snow white was very good

04:10:26.160 for our people in a lot of ways i think sleeping beauty was good in a lot of ways

04:10:30.400 i think a lot of those were very good and i think that many of those up until disney

04:10:36.960 declared war on heterosexual white people were if not good lower representations were

04:10:46.720 nice and good things for our children um unfortunately in the 1990s that very much

04:10:53.040 started to take a turn in a in a really bad way

04:10:56.240 but yeah i think a lot of the early stuff absolutely was

04:11:02.960 and i think the stuff that's not now isn't accidentally so it's very intentional um

04:11:11.200 there was something that happened with disney in the 90s to where

04:11:16.560 they were like proto woke they were woke before woke became a thing

04:11:24.480 and they started just very actively like there was a whole thing about strange sexual things

04:11:32.180 they would put into cartoons back when they were still cartoons before it was all like digitalized

04:11:38.960 that was just gross and unnecessary and it was like kind of a scandal

04:11:44.600 in the 90s in the late 90s I'm hearing about it the three in Lion King and

04:11:51.380 it was the third one it was I can't believe yeah those three had like it was a little mermaid

04:12:02.760 little mermaid that's right all three of those conversive well and the thing is gross things 0.86

04:12:11.340 there's no accident when you are doing frame by frame animation yeah

04:12:17.900 frame by frame animation takes every individual millisecond is an individual frame being made

04:12:26.060 so you know nothing accidentally happens but disney is unfortunately and i say that i'm

04:12:33.180 sure there's probably some very wonderful people that work at disney but as a corporation they've

04:12:38.780 um really chosen to actively be the enemy of the things that we stand for and that's really sad

04:12:48.560 and it's um very opposite of what their founder and intended for them to be

04:12:56.360 uh so uh next one from eavesdropping horror not spelled like the horror movies but spelled like

04:13:10.140 ladies of the night uh what what are some of your favorite writings by carl jung and have you ever

04:13:20.060 read his writings on botan if so what are your thoughts on it swan what are your thoughts um

04:13:28.380 yeah i mean i definitely read the um essay uh of wotan and the consciousness of the germans

04:13:37.660 and i think it ruffled a lot of feathers because some people were saying it was

04:13:41.020 supporting national socialism some people were saying it was denouncing it or what have you but

04:13:45.260 But I think more importantly, it was showing the divine's emergence amongst the folk.

04:13:50.920 And it's, again, the resurrection of the true gods amongst our people as an idea that it not only is coming back, but could come back again and also receive.

04:14:06.960 There is this kind of connection point.

04:14:09.540 I thought that very fascinating.

04:14:11.080 um i think my favorite book because i i haven't read a lot i've i've read one or two

04:14:23.400 of his full books and a bunch with him as an essay but um synchronicity i really like that

04:14:33.820 because it plays in on much how I believe Orla or weird works together with things.

04:14:43.220 And so there's this observance of event collision, which I think is really cool.

04:14:51.540 And then the last one that he wrote before he died, actually,

04:14:56.800 he wrote an essay called uh or he's in a book called man and his symbols or images

04:15:07.480 um and he's talking about dreams in that one and i really like dream interpretation stuff i really

04:15:14.880 like the idea of symbology creeping through the subconscious um i find all of that just truly

04:15:22.100 fascinating. I think there's a lot of leeway

04:15:24.620 in there that I think that the gods

04:15:26.780 and divine powers and even

04:15:28.760 our connection to the gods

04:15:30.600 and divine power

04:15:31.680 come through dreams.

04:15:38.000 So

04:15:38.600 truth is one of our virtues.

04:15:47.540 It's a slog

04:15:49.420 trying to read through

04:15:50.660 Jung's works.

04:15:52.100 they're very very big it's a lot there i have attempted certain ones

04:16:02.500 i've read young essays young books not so much um certainly i've i've read his essay on botan

04:16:15.220 i think again we talk about directionality

04:16:18.500 I think approaching both in as a force in our collective unconscious motivating action

04:16:37.700 is better and closer to the mark

04:16:44.380 than scholars treating

04:16:47.760 more than like, you know,

04:16:51.480 an ooga-booga fetish thing

04:16:54.280 or like a literary character.

04:16:57.180 I think Jung's understanding is closer.

04:17:02.220 but

04:17:06.600 it's trying to start from the ground up instead of from the heavens down

04:17:19.140 and I think that's always fraught with peril

04:17:23.820 his prescient uh prophesying that Odin will reveal himself again to our full

04:17:42.000 next time in a spiritual way as opposed to in a militaristic way I think is true and I

04:17:50.160 we're living that out even today um but i think he's a man of his time in a lot of ways i think

04:18:03.520 he's a man ahead of his time and and beyond his time in a lot of ways but he's not now such a

04:18:10.560 you are he recognizes that Odin is powerful he stops short of recognizing Odin as

04:18:26.280 the king of the Aesir and a real and independently existent entity

04:18:34.080 but he comes closer than other scholars in different disciplines

04:18:40.920 to acknowledge the effect of Odin's animating spirit amongst our folk

04:18:49.520 and I think that's important so I say that to say it's do not limit your understanding of Odin

04:18:59.980 to that essay, that essay is in fact true. It is a byproduct of the reality of our great

04:19:10.040 god Odin. Odin isn't our understanding of that archetype within our DNA. That archetype

04:19:21.000 was woven into our DNA by our god Odin. But that doesn't make it not true and not valuable.

04:19:29.260 it is certainly that i think um i did see a copy of a big illustrated copy of jung's red book

04:19:43.500 and it was beautiful and i didn't get to read a lot of it because i saw it at a man i deeply

04:19:48.780 respect in his library and i was able to just kind of look through it and kind of be in awe

04:19:55.100 of it a little bit but i didn't get to read the text that's that's what i have to say on on my

04:20:05.420 very limited um first-hand knowledge of young's works um i just wanted to add and it's not about

04:20:14.380 so much about coral young but i was talking to one of my clients and uh i was explaining to him

04:20:20.380 that one of the things that people cannot really get their heads around is that our faith is the

04:20:26.940 integral relationship with the divine and that anything outside of our people's relationship

04:20:33.260 with the divine is in essence either really not relevant or um outlandish because it's out of our

04:20:42.060 land. It's out of our world and understanding. But he retorted saying, well, doesn't that make

04:20:51.040 the divine subjective? And I said, no, the divine is objective. The reality of the divine being

04:20:59.000 multiple instead of singular is objective. All things reflect from the very bottom to the very

04:21:06.320 top. The atom is not made of one singular thing. There is a multiplicity in nature that is objective

04:21:13.280 and constant and always. The only thing that's subjective, again, is the way that we perceive the

04:21:20.680 divine and then relate to the divine. Very much like there is one sun, but the sun is different

04:21:27.520 for a Swede than it is for an Iraqi. But that's because the relationship and the perception and

04:21:34.480 reality that exists for them in relation to the objective and then

04:21:44.000 just making iraqi noses oh well um the other point of this though is that

04:21:53.520 this carl jung is speaking of a perception he is speaking of the idea of an archetype the

04:22:01.440 archetypes the psychological connection he can believe in the grand uh meta-mind or meta-spiritual

04:22:10.080 connection that we may all have with each other with the super unconscious but he cannot break

04:22:16.480 the threshold of thinking that there is a consciousness above and beyond which is kind of

04:22:22.240 of what you lent to um that is that is one thing that i think uh we need to teach our folk is uh

04:22:32.080 that there is a subjectiveness in the way that we culturally perceive the divine but the divine is

04:22:36.720 not subjective the divine is objective when we look at it in its true nature but what becomes

04:22:42.720 different is the way that each of our peoples relate in the relationship that which is true

04:22:50.480 So the more, and this dumbs it down, and I don't mean to denigrate it in any way.

04:23:03.420 But I think our first step in understanding the divine is that they are at their very least the very best of people.

04:23:29.220 they are so very far beyond that but just conceptually we try to concede so

04:23:39.480 our founder um Steve McNallan taught me when I first met him

04:23:49.680 that we are made of the same

04:23:51.780 essence as our gods, whereas Thor, and I think this is a specific example, is a, you know,

04:24:02.920 is Niagara Falls, and we might be a dripping faucet. The substance is the same. There is a

04:24:16.120 But understanding that I think a lot of people, when they first try to conceive of gods, they go.

04:24:33.760 So this is the struggle for those of you who are just tuning in.

04:24:38.120 When talking about spiritual things, language is difficult because it's hard to find the right words to encapsulate.

04:24:46.120 people start out treating the gods as something other that they have no point of relation to

04:24:55.720 and then trying to figure it out in some very inorganic way and oftentimes that's

04:25:05.920 with the best of intentions but I think it misses the point

04:25:10.240 when i came into alsa true you know our founder taught me that the gods are a raging river

04:25:21.920 whereas we're a trickle from a faucet but we're of the same water stuff

04:25:29.680 there is that basic similarity that we're both water in that example

04:25:35.980 it's often spoken that our gods are our most ancient ancestors and that's true but outside

04:25:52.240 of specific royal lines I don't think we mean that in a biological like sexual reproduction way

04:26:05.980 but we mean that we relate to them in a certain degree of kinship

04:26:11.800 not that we will ever be remotely equal to them they are gods and they're not

04:26:19.540 but we create an artificial barrier as thinking of them as this other thing that's why also true

04:26:31.060 is about coming home. Our gods are other. We know how to interact with other living things

04:26:39.940 since the moment we're born, perhaps before that. We know how to show love to

04:26:49.300 other entities that we care about. We know what that feels like. We do that with our mother,

04:26:59.560 or with our father, with our siblings.

04:27:02.560 We do that from the time we're small children relating to the world around us.

04:27:09.640 To conceive of the gods as somehow outside of that loop,

04:27:14.460 as opposed to a very high expression of that,

04:27:20.780 is fallacious and I think a problem that holds a lot of our people back.

04:27:25.880 uh i at this point don't know how it remotely relates to the question at hand but i'm going

04:27:34.200 to roll with in any way because i do think it's important we have a lot of people that ask

04:27:38.360 frequently you know how do i pray to the gods or how do i do work at my altar how do i do ritual

04:27:49.560 i understand those questions they come from a place of piety and respect and you don't want

04:27:54.440 to do it wrong but you wouldn't say how do i call my grandfather how do i speak to to my mother

04:28:04.200 those things come very naturally

04:28:08.760 so take that and elevate that on how we relate to our gods we try to conceive of them these strange

04:28:17.800 scholastic ways like well there's gods but then we know about science and we know about this and

04:28:26.200 you know maybe our way of understanding them is anthropology maybe if we dig deep into science

04:28:32.360 we'll find that you know our gods are really a black hole singularity or this or well maybe if

04:28:39.880 If we understand, no, just think of them as gods.

04:28:46.560 What do you do with gods?

04:28:48.160 You worship gods.

04:28:51.020 Approach them with worship, with love, and with devotion, and speak to them.

04:28:58.900 I've been in foreign places where no one spoke English.

04:29:04.000 I can interact with those other living beings in a meaningful way,

04:29:09.180 even if i don't speak the language even if i don't know how to do it right

04:29:17.180 we understand other living things intent we can show that intent to the divine

04:29:26.540 we can perfect that over time but don't think of the gods as other think of the gods as as super

04:29:36.460 or as mega versions of what we know they're our family writ to the the ultimate extension of that

04:29:50.540 approach our gods with the love that you would have for revered elders of your family

04:29:58.220 you know times infinity but don't think of them as something other they're not

04:30:05.260 our connection to our gods is in our very blood and bone and that connection i do think that jung

04:30:14.220 illustrates in his way he illustrates it very differently than i would

04:30:23.900 but odin and the rest of the ice here are woven into our very blood and bone

04:30:30.460 Don't think of them as other or something that you can't extend love or a kindness to.

04:30:44.140 That's a barrier between deep relationship with our gods that you shouldn't have.

04:30:54.100 That's your guys' fault for being here four and a half hours in.

04:30:57.800 i get a little bit verbose on very simple answers sometimes that said though the last question of

04:31:06.600 the night how should person whose parents were bad to them treat the dead if a person had for

04:31:15.560 example abusive parents swan um yeah that was we were kind of talking about that that's a great

04:31:25.560 question um i think that we should look at the obligation of the noble soul versus

04:31:35.400 the duality if you have a good parents what is there there is the the obligation of a noble soul

04:31:41.720 plus the in the just the overflowing love that one would have for their parents but if your parents

04:31:50.680 do things that de-evolve the relationship, it always defaults back to what is noble and honorable

04:32:00.820 to do. And I think that's the key thing, to not treat them as refuse, to not put them

04:32:11.640 in the ground or to cremate them or to abide by their wishes. Abiding by their wishes is the

04:32:20.040 honorable de facto to go to the uh the above and beyond is to place yourself within it to put more

04:32:29.480 into it to perhaps extend even further or um again raise monuments if you will or raise

04:32:38.040 stones as our ancestors said in in honor of them and their their commitment to you and bringing

04:32:45.240 you forth um but again that's not the case with everyone so if if all else fails default to the

04:32:53.260 honorable default to what noble to do in obligation of your folk as a as a people um if you were to do

04:33:03.540 something where other folk would look at you and just say that's not right and again we're not

04:33:08.680 appeasing, but

04:33:10.360 do the noble

04:33:12.700 thing.

04:33:16.040 Absolutely

04:33:16.880 that. Something

04:33:18.900 I'd like to expand on, though.

04:33:27.640 Don't

04:33:28.400 buck against

04:33:30.800 things you know to be true

04:33:32.800 because

04:33:35.080 the degenerates

04:33:36.580 also talk about.

04:33:38.680 it is liberal and lefty and whatever to say,

04:33:46.960 be the bigger person or whatever, and I get that.

04:33:51.440 But still, be the bigger person.

04:33:55.040 There's a truth to that.

04:33:57.800 There is a nobility to being above certain things.

04:34:07.640 And I say this in a, this might be a different way to approach this, and I want to explore this a little bit further.

04:34:20.720 So I think we have all different age groups of people who listen to this program.

04:34:29.140 We have Mary, who's in her 80s, that listens to this program, and I know a lot of people in their 20s.

04:34:37.640 And I have noticed, as I have grown older, that something happens at some point in your life between you and your parents where there is a...

04:34:57.640 i'll say this you get to a certain age where you see your parents in a way that you can relate to

04:35:15.820 as children your parents are larger than life for good or for ill they're either

04:35:26.420 you know these demigods or they are devils if they're evil it depends but they're big

04:35:36.500 and immensely powerful and beyond your reckoning then you get a certain point in your life we look

04:35:43.620 back and like hold on i remember my dad when he was my age i remember talking to my dad when he

04:35:52.580 was my age and i remember stuff he said to me like all right hold up oh for example in the afa

04:36:02.260 i am blessed with the fact that within the same 24-hour period i can talk to someone i consider

04:36:11.700 a close friend of mine who's in his early 20s and also a close friend of mine who is in their mid

04:36:20.500 70s they are both my friends and in a way my peers but there is a 50 year gap and it's

04:36:33.860 a unique blessing that i have that i didn't have at earlier points in my life

04:36:40.180 i remember there was a friend of mine this has happened a couple of times there were friends of

04:36:46.740 mine whose parents who i wanted to relate to their parents in some way um you know one of them was

04:36:56.500 talking to me about their parents treating them poorly the other you know one of their parents

04:37:02.420 decided to get into some stupid squabble with me on facebook and i'm behaving one way because i'm

04:37:10.020 like oh my friend's parent i'm assuming they're my parents age and in both these instances i'm like 0.99

04:37:17.700 hold on no my friend's parent is my age right man i should punch that guy in the mouth 0.91

04:37:26.420 like it became real different because i have a deference to elders something happens when you 0.98

04:37:34.740 surpass your parents age when they have you and when you started being aware of things

04:37:41.860 so when i interact with my dad now that you know gotta stop in math here he's what 70 76 this year

04:37:54.500 i remember when my dad was 43 i'm gonna turn 44 this year i'm i knew my dad at 44.

04:38:00.580 I knew him, and I was old enough to remember conversations we had and lessons he taught me.

04:38:09.000 So you start seeing your parents as people.

04:38:15.720 And in some situations, as your parents age, and if, unfortunately, there's a cognitive decline,

04:38:27.080 or sometimes I was talking to a friend of mine just yesterday I believe where he was talking

04:38:35.740 to me about his father-in-law and he's kind of become the de facto man of the family that has

04:38:41.160 to take care of his father-in-law which is an interesting thing sometimes you can surpass your

04:38:47.920 parents the best that they were able to achieve. Maybe you've surpassed that in whatever way that

04:38:57.960 might be, in wisdom, in nobility, in success, in a variety of things. And then you find yourself

04:39:07.740 in a different spot. Some of us have found ourselves in spots to where we start being

04:39:16.220 the adult in the situation as relates to our parents sometimes that's total sometimes that's

04:39:23.180 just situational but it's very interesting because you never would have thought that was the case

04:39:28.380 when you're a child one thing when you are an adult and you're dealing with a parent that's

04:39:36.140 passed and and is deceased there is a value in treating them with a certain amount of

04:39:48.540 because you're no longer in a spot where you have to treat them nicely

04:39:54.220 you don't have to do what they what they tell you

04:39:58.540 they're not the boss of you it's you're in a different spot in your life

04:40:02.620 life but you can choose to be respectful and you can choose to what degree to be respectful

04:40:11.500 sometimes if your parents are not best or there's many a ways that they fall short

04:40:18.220 you can extend a certain amount of grace to them and how you remember them and how you treat their

04:40:22.960 memory you can say hey you know I know you struggle with a lot of things no you didn't

04:40:30.340 everything right but I love you and I miss you and and I and I respect you you can do that

04:40:38.800 you can choose to do that as an Aryan man or woman you can make those choices

04:40:44.140 you can choose to let go of baggage and of um

04:40:50.440 small things you can choose to let go of some big things

04:40:54.520 now I want to also say in counterbalance you mentioned if your parents were abusive

04:41:01.500 there's levels of abuse there's ways to where your parents lose their temper

04:41:08.980 you know maybe they slapped you around a couple of times they shouldn't maybe they were unkind

04:41:15.400 to you when they should have been kind maybe they were intolerant when they should have been

04:41:20.160 thoughtful, you can let some things slide. But there's other parents that are evil and sadistic 0.98

04:41:27.960 that savagely abuse their children, that sexually predate on their children and do any of those 0.98

04:41:37.180 things. I am not, even for a second, telling you to extend any courtesy or any respect to those

04:41:43.860 but as arian men and women you get to make that choice of what things you are capable of letting

04:41:54.660 slide because you choose to as a noble grace you are extending to them and you can choose what lines

04:42:05.300 to draw on to say no i will hate you for eternity and spit on your grave that is a choice you can

04:42:15.700 make too and anything in between but having the nobility of mind to be able to transcend

04:42:25.540 human weakness and human silliness we get to it's really interesting as I've gotten into my 40s I've

04:42:37.240 thought about this a lot you're able to see and understand your parents failings and their

04:42:46.360 weakness in a different way once you've lived through the stage of life that they've lived

04:42:52.720 through that you judge them for if you live long enough you get to see these things you're like

04:42:59.200 wow I remember when my dad was 44 and he did this thing man I'm 44 now and I understand what he was

04:43:07.720 feeling maybe you're better than it maybe you're worse maybe you make the same choices but you

04:43:15.580 a perspective to where you can extend a kindness if you choose to exercise your power as noble men

04:43:25.260 and women to make those choices according to your true self and not because of the hurt

04:43:36.780 and the passions of youth or of uh lesser you know of lesser people

04:43:46.380 so make make noble choices i guess is my theme on that question

04:43:52.380 so it has been awesome to go through this with you guys i know it seems like we're inching through it

04:43:58.940 but uh i am enjoying every bit of it and i'm enjoying enjoying this time going through it

04:44:04.940 with my friend spawn and with all of you who are such an amazing audience i look forward to part

04:44:13.180 five two weeks from today and next week we will be joined by uh newly ordained githya lauren

04:44:23.180 anderson she will join me and we will talk to you about a variety of things and answer your questions

04:44:29.820 until then hail the isir hail the folk hail the afa remember victory never sleeps

04:44:59.820 We'll be right back.

04:45:29.820 Thank you.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - May 08, 2025

5⧸7⧸25 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 148 - Völsunga Saga, Part IV

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