Asatru Folk Assembly - 6⧸10⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 205 - The Mission

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00:03:00.000 Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's edition of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:12.780 I am enjoying doing it at the new and improved time slot.

00:03:17.240 I hope that is facilitating more folks being able to participate in the chat room

00:03:24.080 and helping our guests have a little bit easier time with it.

00:03:30.440 I know we've got a lot of folks over on the East Coast

00:03:33.120 that it's a little bit of a slog when I ask them to be on the show.

00:03:38.160 So I'm hopeful for the time slot.

00:03:40.340 I'm really liking it.

00:03:41.400 I haven't gotten any bad feedback about it.

00:03:44.020 So we'll keep it.

00:03:49.440 Top of the show.

00:03:50.360 up yeah might as well top of the show things where we add on phrase off so i talked to you guys um

00:04:01.320 giving you weekly updates on these things i really appreciate how generous everyone has been

00:04:06.600 keep in mind we dedicated phrase off i believe the 6th of december and we're already as of today

00:04:16.520 42.3% paid off, which is a lot in that short amount of time. You guys have been really,

00:04:26.180 really generous. It breaks down. We still owe $72,174 on it, and that comes out to just about

00:04:36.780 $98 per member. So you guys are awesome. Thank you for your generosity. If you are interested

00:04:43.620 in helping with this, please, or any of our fundraising efforts, for that matter,

00:04:52.240 runestone.org slash donate. And again, that'll give you the option to donate to any or all of

00:05:00.460 our fundraising efforts, if you're so inclined. But no, we appreciate your generosity. Thank you

00:05:04.840 very much. Our other, um, other one that we're pushing is the pavilion at Cigarheim. That's

00:05:15.360 should be a pretty awesome pavilion. It looks like for the investment, it's going to be really

00:05:23.820 nice last us for years to come. Even when we get the great hall that we want to have there one day,

00:05:30.840 This is still going to be of use to us because it's always going to be nice to sit outside and have that space.

00:05:37.960 So it's going to be great.

00:05:39.480 We are very hopeful to get that set up in whole or in part by the big event this year.

00:05:47.880 This year, the focus, like a showcase event at Cigreham is going to be Inheria Bloat in November.

00:05:56.740 so hope to see everybody out there for that and hope that we have a beautiful pavilion for

00:06:02.860 us all together under and we'll see you out there if you want to be part of helping make that happen

00:06:07.660 again donate uh runestone.org slash donate that we're sitting at um 22.7 percent of the way there

00:06:18.100 I need to raise ideally another $27,000, $27,051 to the exact.

00:06:27.100 I forget what I had the per member breakdown on that sitting at, but yeah, you guys are

00:06:39.100 awesome, thank you, and your generosity is greatly, greatly appreciated.

00:06:45.100 And that comes out to like 36 per member to get us there.

00:06:50.520 These projects go into something we're talking about tonight.

00:06:56.320 Wow.

00:07:01.140 And I guess another top of the show thing before we get into the main focus.

00:07:07.940 um we have just wrapped up another year at the house to academy and just like victory never

00:07:18.820 sleeps these projects also don't sleep so we don't really take a breath we get done with one

00:07:25.540 year and then we try to prep and become ready for the next school year to that effect

00:07:31.340 um we need volunteers to help with that program

00:07:36.460 um volunteers are needed there's a lot of people that bring different skills to the table

00:07:46.560 certainly anybody who has a background in education is a is a big boon to that but if

00:07:53.040 you just got time and you want to help make stuff happen you know it's it's open to any of you guys

00:07:58.720 would like to bomb a tear. I'll talk a little bit more about it when we get to it in the

00:08:09.580 course of the show tonight, but just here for this kind of a primary focus that we're

00:08:15.480 really looking for some people on at this stage, we need, I'm going to call it a guidance

00:08:25.580 counselor kind of role but i don't know if that's really gets to it what we need is some folks who

00:08:34.060 are confident in homeschooling system how that works and are able to provide

00:08:42.300 specific guidance and help and hand-holding to new parents or parents who are interfacing with

00:08:48.780 their systems in a little bit different way so having some people that want to have direct

00:08:53.100 involvement helping families and helping homeschool parents to feel confident with

00:09:00.780 homeschooling their child and with the different compliance issues in their states that would be

00:09:06.060 very helpful and that's we'd love to have help with that if you are interested

00:09:10.060 um sarah alt is githya sarah alt is running that program so s-a-u-l-t at runestone.org

00:09:24.220 sarah is wonderful and she would love to have your help so i look forward to

00:09:31.120 uh a lot of you guys contributing so hopefully we get a lot of folks stepping up for that anyways

00:09:37.580 It's a little bit, all right, a little bit scrambled, so we were, I had a plan for this

00:09:45.540 week, a couple plans fell through, so I've got a, got a topic tonight that is intentionally

00:09:56.580 specific in focus, but in practice has lots of different tentacles, so my mind's a little

00:10:03.660 bit all over the place on those. Don't worry. I wrote down some notes, but it is, it's a

00:10:09.680 big topic. There's lots of different ways to go about it. And I think as we go on, it

00:10:17.100 kind of highlight some things. As you can see, if you are watching this, as you probably

00:10:25.400 have no idea, if you are listening to this, I am joined by my esteemed colleague, Speck

00:10:32.080 to Trent East, and tonight we're going to talk about the mission. So

00:10:39.220 our founder, Steve McAllen, has a military background, and when I got involved in House

00:10:51.260 True, and specifically in the House True Folk Assembly, there was frequent reference and talk

00:10:58.860 about the mission, the mission, this, the mission, that got to carry on the mission,

00:11:04.160 got to run the mission, the mission, the, the concept and the phraseology of the mission was

00:11:10.180 ever present. I think being mission focused is really important. I think it's important

00:11:24.720 to make progress, but I also think it is important as a touchstone to go back to if there's lots

00:11:35.660 going on, if there's overwhelming stimulus from whatever, to narrow your focus like,

00:11:41.980 all right, but what are we trying to do, and how is what we are doing accomplishing the mission?

00:11:50.640 So, that said, it kind of breaks down into two big thrusts, and I wanted to talk to you

00:12:02.320 guys a little bit about that tonight.

00:12:08.460 That does require a little bit of background.

00:12:13.720 So, and there were a couple of precursors to this, but in general, over the last hundred

00:12:26.000 years, something really special has taken place in our world and in the soul of our

00:12:33.480 folk.

00:12:33.840 different tribes of our people at different times

00:12:45.380 culminating in the democratic voting out of trough to the ice here in Iceland in year 1000

00:12:56.380 we have spent centuries with a severed relationship and a severed trough to our

00:13:06.220 gods the ice here and the implications of that have been slow to fully take effect

00:13:14.200 but you know every year every decade that went by a bit of our soul became ever more infected

00:13:25.860 until we look in the world around us today it's very clear that our folk have

00:13:31.620 a severe case of soul sickness and have suffered deeply because of it so

00:13:43.380 earlier in my servan list case but about a hundred years ago to about

00:13:49.540 80 or 70 years ago, the Isir decided to stir the soul of our folk, as our founder would

00:14:04.540 put it, to inspire, awaken, and activate certain champions that had the right stuff, that 0.55

00:14:18.360 the ability to listen to the calling of the gods and the calling of their blood that had the

00:14:26.440 the drive and the raw materials to set forth in the world the re-establishment of

00:14:35.560 aussitry set about to reforge the blade of our faith that was broken when our ancestors broke

00:14:44.360 trough with their gods and this looked really different that was part of it

00:14:53.240 uh i mentioned uh maestro widow von liszt in austria was awakened alexander rudd mills

00:15:03.480 in australia elsie christensen in denmark spender and bientensen and his colleagues in iceland

00:15:16.040 um john gibbs bailey and john yule in england and our founder steve mcdalen here in the united states

00:15:27.720 in texas to be exact and

00:15:33.480 The mission at that point was this, to set this in motion, to define what this is, and

00:15:52.800 to make this manifest in Midgard for the first time in roughly 800, 900 plus years.

00:16:08.380 So, that vague drive looked different to all of those different pioneers of our faith in

00:16:20.920 modern times, and they all had the ability and the, I guess, the mandate to shape that

00:16:29.840 in the way that was most aligned with their understanding, with their resources, with

00:16:35.340 their abilities, and with their understanding of what they've been tasked by the Aesir to

00:16:41.160 do.

00:16:41.420 So our branch of that was when the All-Father rode across the soul of Stephen McNallan and inspired him to bring the folk home, what he referred to many times over the years as an in-gathering of the folk.

00:17:05.020 So, part one, the in-gathering of the folk.

00:17:14.380 All right, so for what that's worth, it wasn't about, okay, again, this is kind of what I warned you guys a little bit about at the start

00:17:32.340 because it's a really big topic but to condense it condense it down in ways that make sense and

00:17:37.860 build upon themselves we do my best um it wasn't a mandate to bring a specific elite home or this

00:17:52.660 uber mitch vanguard home it was a calling to bring all of our folk home

00:18:02.340 that's that looks real different I know a lot of the time now and this is this

00:18:09.380 is why we're doing this is kind of related to where we're at what we're

00:18:12.460 doing people in this critique culture that we live in people like to criticize

00:18:22.980 everything that's less than perfect why do you guys have fat people why does

00:18:27.900 that guy have a nose ring why does this guy wear a shirt i don't like how come you know any number

00:18:35.500 of things barring the obvious critique that the person who makes the comment likely has a

00:18:43.100 some kind of anime furry looking creature as their avatar and we have no idea what they look like or

00:18:51.020 or any reference on the person making the comment,

00:18:55.660 but there's this idea that we should only have

00:18:59.440 these elite, perfect people.

00:19:04.060 And that doesn't reflect reality.

00:19:07.020 And one of the things that's important,

00:19:10.080 our founder recognized early on,

00:19:12.060 there's a soul sickness amongst our folk.

00:19:14.060 A lot of the time, that soul sickness manifests

00:19:17.280 in people who are out of shape,

00:19:19.520 People who don't have pride in themselves, don't take good care of themselves.

00:19:23.260 People who are so dissatisfied with the world that they live in that they, you know, choose stylistic choices that go against the grain because what goes with the grain is not serving them well in this world.

00:19:40.900 A lot of those folks are the folks that need us the most.

00:19:43.240 So the idea of calling all of our folk home, and again, when I say all of our folk, there

00:19:52.100 are clearly people that disqualify themselves through choices that we make.

00:19:58.220 But a couple of things needed to happen and still need to happen to a degree.

00:20:05.280 And I think those come in a couple of different forms.

00:20:11.020 So one thing, in order for that to be viable, our folk need to be awakened to the racial consciousness that we are a people.

00:20:22.780 We are a race.

00:20:25.700 That is something that every other group of people in the world understands.

00:20:31.700 we can talk about asian culture which again there's diverse cultures in asia but you can

00:20:41.920 loop them together and they realize they are a people you talk about black culture you can talk

00:20:47.200 about these things but when you talk about white culture what do you mean white culture like you

00:20:54.100 got to break yourselves off until you talk about scottish culture or english culture or french

00:20:58.740 culture or german culture but they want to break it down in these small things so it's become

00:21:05.460 really unpopular to think of white people as a distinct racial group to say it out loud and to

00:21:14.740 identify with it as your group of people that share your needs and that you have some kind

00:21:21.140 of a bond to you can't mention it positively yet we all know exactly what it is when it's used

00:21:28.580 negatively and it is reinforced to us so often in the world we live in in a negative context

00:21:38.100 and we have this endless well what do you mean by white nobody asks what you mean by

00:21:44.020 black nobody asks what you mean by asian nobody asks what you mean by hispanic

00:21:50.900 but what do you mean when you say white and it's a disingenuous question but it's one that's

00:21:55.540 ingrained in the culture around us so people especially young people are trained to ask it

00:22:02.340 instinctively so a big part of that is awakening our people to be proud of who they are where they

00:22:09.140 come from and recognize we are a people we are a race um one thing that steve used to say quite a

00:22:19.700 bit i don't know if i've heard him say it recently but he he said and if i if i butcher it i apologize

00:22:25.940 but something very close to the effect of only when we realize we are a river will we stop drowning

00:22:32.260 in punks when we are separate and we think of ourselves as these small little clans or small

00:22:40.340 little tribes instead of as a great nation of the children of the isere we make ourselves

00:22:48.820 increasingly irrelevant and all we see is points of separation instead of the overwhelming points

00:22:58.100 of unity that you build something strong and something lasting from. So part of it is awakening

00:23:07.000 to the fact that we are a people.

00:23:11.680 With that, we face the real, I don't know, I think more explicit, all right, cool, now

00:23:19.340 people know that we're a people, what do we do about it?

00:23:24.340 How do we let them know about things?

00:23:26.680 So one problem that we face, and I've talked about this on the program a lot.

00:23:32.820 We have, I couldn't even calculate in the West, in the United States by itself, 300

00:23:47.060 some million people.

00:23:50.340 Let's just say white people are half of that.

00:23:52.380 It's more than that, but let's just say that, cool, 150 million people. 0.99

00:24:00.820 say that people watch a lot of Netflix, so half of those people are gay. They're not. But if that

00:24:06.500 were the case, that's 75 million people that should be here doing this with us at the very

00:24:15.720 lowest possible end. Those people don't know we exist. We do really well, and I think that we

00:24:25.040 always have with people that know we exist, but getting the word out has become increasingly

00:24:34.060 tricky. And it was tricky for, um, for our founding generation as well. Back then you

00:24:42.660 could put up flyers and you could get on, you know, you could advertise in the back

00:24:48.160 of different eccentric magazines and periodicals.

00:24:56.220 You could have a little ad in there, and we did.

00:25:00.580 Way back when, that was how these things happened.

00:25:03.500 Later, you could have Yahoo groups and meetup.com,

00:25:08.080 and you could have little things, but they're very sparse.

00:25:11.360 It's very hard to get the message out.

00:25:13.180 and you know it's a little bit better now but a few years back a lot of doors got closed

00:25:21.300 to spreading any kind of awareness of anything that was healthy and good for traditionalists

00:25:30.020 generally and for heterosexual white people in specific so it's closed off some options

00:25:36.160 um so what do we do with that how i think that right now and a lot of people we could have

00:25:44.480 endless debates about messaging or about you know all kind of different strategies but

00:25:51.700 fundamentally the biggest hurdle to our growth is a lack of people knowing that it was an option

00:26:00.200 And we have so many of our folk that are searching, that are unsatisfied with the religious options that they feel are available, but with a deep and burning spiritual need to connect with the divine.

00:26:18.600 i remember when i found myself at that place and looked around as a

00:26:28.520 older teenager who's in white america the options i'm aware of like well i can't really be a hindu

00:26:41.640 because I'm not Indian, not Jewish, like I'm not a Jew,

00:26:47.220 so I'm not going to practice Judaism, you know,

00:26:51.080 I'm not Arab, so I'm not going to do Islam.

00:26:55.660 Okay, what do we have?

00:26:56.780 Well, we have Christianity. 0.89

00:26:58.180 So pick a flavor of Christianity and try to make it work.

00:27:02.560 So I did, and I think a lot of our people do that.

00:27:05.620 They may have to try two or three or four flavors of Christianity

00:27:08.960 to find one that's tolerable.

00:27:10.880 and often they end up frustrated and disavowing spirituality altogether.

00:27:16.860 But most of those people don't know that this is an option.

00:27:22.080 So the segment that figures that there is some other option,

00:27:26.800 and logic tells them that before Jesus converted Europe, there was stuff.

00:27:34.020 They get in the quote-unquote pagan milieu.

00:27:37.620 And it's one of the reasons I almost never use that word.

00:27:40.880 is it is a scary place with max degeneracy and some well-meaning

00:27:49.680 lunatics that don't know what they're talking about or people that are really and truly 0.62

00:27:55.360 rebutting and it reeks of mental illness the very small segment of population and of visibility that

00:28:02.560 that Alistair True occupies is something that our mission

00:28:07.560 is to amplify and to increase and to find ways

00:28:11.820 to get our face, our name, and importantly,

00:28:16.820 what we stand for in front of all of the eyes

00:28:21.040 that we can of our people to bring them home.

00:28:26.320 To this effort,

00:28:27.580 we also are in a culture right now where a lot of people who advocate for

00:28:35.220 betterment for white people are very scared of doxing they're very scared of putting their face

00:28:44.400 or their name on something and they're very hesitant to interact with the media

00:28:49.260 it has been the afa's policy during my time as alzheimer gofi

00:28:57.140 to take any media opportunities that come our way we lose all the battles that we don't

00:29:06.740 choose to participate in when i say that i would not knowingly walk into something where people

00:29:13.540 have been disrespectful up front but yes i realize every time we go on anything that

00:29:21.660 approaches any kind of mainstream media it is going to be a hit piece it's going to be negative

00:29:30.140 and it's going to be about why are you the evil racist i know that and they know that but what

00:29:37.420 else it's going to do is expose us to an audience of people that have never heard about house a true

00:29:43.180 never heard about the house true folk assembly and if and when they do if we're not there

00:29:49.100 They are either going to hear from people with values that do not align with ours, or they're going to conjure up some kind of imaginary boogeyman in their head that doesn't have a name in their face.

00:30:03.500 I would much rather that the voice of Ausatru is a representative of the Ausatru Folk Assembly, looking good, presenting themselves in a dignified way, and giving accurate impressions of who we are and what we believe.

00:30:20.940 finding those opportunities is very difficult but every time those opportunity opportunities

00:30:27.920 have presented themselves we have been better for the exposure we have been better for the

00:30:34.020 participation and that has proved to be a very useful tool when the opportunity presents itself

00:30:41.680 I am open for brainstorming and ideas on how to increase those opportunities because I think

00:30:50.840 they're good and they're very important. We're ready to engage in them when they show up.

00:31:00.900 I've got another couple of notes on this plank one of stuff and then we'll break a little bit

00:31:07.100 and I promise I'll let Trent say stuff too. But I want to get these things out before I get lost

00:31:12.560 and sauce on it so when we have people that wonder you know why does the afa engage with media that's

00:31:21.680 why because someone is going to and when we have the opportunity and this will go into plank too

00:31:29.760 but when we have the opportunity to be the voice of aussie true not only is it beneficial to us

00:31:35.680 it is an obligation that we have to step into that role and to be that voice of ostrich um

00:31:45.680 so i said we use you know pictures sometimes people get uncomfortable when you're taking

00:31:52.240 pictures and you're sharing pictures of the events that's how people know we're real

00:31:58.320 one of the other massive tools that has helped us thus far is having pictures

00:32:05.680 and having frequent pictures of all of our gatherings all of our you know lunches and

00:32:12.240 dinners and events events at hoffs hikes anytime we get together as afa members

00:32:22.080 where we have you know three or more adults present we want to have pictures of that out

00:32:27.840 there showing a couple of things we want to show where this is taking place one to show

00:32:36.080 geographic spread of hey we've got stuff going on all over and then more specifically hey we might

00:32:42.400 have stuff going on near you a lot of people don't think of that a lot of people will have

00:32:46.640 a conception in their head of where the afa exists taking pictures and those pictures having

00:32:53.440 a location attached to them lets people know hey this is going on all over and this is going on

00:32:58.560 closer to you than you think maybe right down the road so that's really important and then why the

00:33:06.400 faces i know that some people in circles we run in want to blur their face or wear a mask or put a

00:33:13.360 a little emoji over their faces or whatever, I understand where that feeling comes from.

00:33:24.680 We're not doing anything wrong. We're worshiping our gods, and when you don't show your face,

00:33:33.980 you show fear. When you do show your face, you show your smiling face with what you're doing.

00:33:40.520 it shows the world that you are proud of who you are you're proud of who you with you're with

00:33:45.880 and you're proud of what you're doing and we owe it to our gods at the very least to be proud

00:33:52.200 that we are that we are their folk and that they're our gods so we show our face you see happy

00:33:59.640 for the most part normal looking folks out there practicing also true and that's hugely important

00:34:05.800 So seeing that, hey, these are real people that look just like you and me.

00:34:11.880 I could be like that.

00:34:12.900 I could hang out with those guys.

00:34:15.380 And, wow, this goes on everywhere.

00:34:17.780 They're always doing stuff.

00:34:19.660 That has been a huge help in accomplishing that first plank of that mission.

00:34:24.440 And it's, to circle back to the mission, it's not just a cool idea Steve had.

00:34:30.740 It is a task set upon him by the Alpha.

00:34:35.240 It is a task that he has rounded all of us up and brought us together to implement and to live up. 0.94

00:34:46.020 It is an assignment from the Iser and one that we will do our very best to achieve now and forever. 0.69

00:34:55.260 A couple of other things about the ingathering of the folk.

00:35:01.720 So what can you do?

00:35:03.800 What can we do?

00:35:05.240 How do we do this thing?

00:35:07.560 So I talk on here a lot about wear your hammers.

00:35:11.840 Wear your hammers out.

00:35:14.180 Be identifiable that you are also true.

00:35:19.260 The easiest way is like, oh, wow, cool hammer.

00:35:23.500 That's neat.

00:35:24.600 What's that?

00:35:25.320 All of these are opportunities for each of us to engage with our fellow folk that haven't come home yet

00:35:34.240 about what this is and if they listen and they want to engage in the conversation

00:35:40.240 why they should come over here and be a part of it um we lose a lot by not maximizing those

00:35:47.740 opportunities by not getting out of our comfort zone and talking to strangers that we don't know

00:35:52.720 and then even if we do far too seldom do we invite them to come home so each of you who wants to be

00:36:02.160 part of this mission. And I should say this too, our amazing folk builders in Dothar have stepped

00:36:08.640 up and volunteered to be the tip of the spear in implementing our mission. But everyone who wants

00:36:18.020 to help with this, everyone who wants to join the AFA and be part of it, you guys have, you all have

00:36:25.200 a part to play and there's many opportunities to be part of that. And we'll talk about that more

00:36:30.320 throughout the show. But specifically, the most, I guess, self-evident one, you are a billboard

00:36:37.740 for Ausitrue. Wear your hammer out and talk openly with your family and your friends and

00:36:45.080 where appropriate with your co-workers and the guy you meet at the store about who you are,

00:36:51.020 about Ausitrue, and about how proud you are to be part of the Ausitrue focus.

00:36:54.640 so that goes a long way and that word of mouth may not have the um projecting volume of social

00:37:04.980 media but it is tried and true since the beginning of time it works every time we don't do that

00:37:13.660 we leave something on the table let's maximize our effect in doing that i have two more things

00:37:21.300 um really i guess one more on this so in a very specific situation because i know that everybody

00:37:32.480 who's hearing this is consuming it through the internet or through some kind of social media

00:37:38.220 on the internet help us out each of us have slightly different circles of people we run in

00:37:46.340 for different hobbies or interests that we all have the longer our leadership stays

00:37:54.020 leading the afa and being part of afa circles the more our circles kind of solidify in one

00:38:02.500 you know moderately sized circle and getting outside of that circle is different is very

00:38:09.140 difficult on vns tonight and whenever you listen to this broadcast we have an audience around the

00:38:17.300 world we have people listening from every um every age group amongst our folk every conceivable

00:38:27.860 profession every conceivable hobby we've got men we have women spread the word tell people about us

00:38:38.900 share this episode invite people to come home

00:38:46.020 if you take away anything from this broadcast tonight

00:38:52.580 accomplishing our mission and doing aussitrew is a proactive thing it is not a passive thing

00:39:02.580 it's cool if you sit and you wait for people to come to you and when they do you direct them over

00:39:11.620 here but the way we win is by making the opportunities by seizing the opportunities

00:39:18.180 that present themselves to us capitalizing to the best of our ability on those opportunities

00:39:23.940 and inviting our folk to come home that's what i've got on plank one of the mission

00:39:31.060 uh trent you've just been sitting listening to me for about half an hour i apologize for that

00:39:36.240 i don't know a way to keep my keep my thought process and do it any other way but what would

00:39:43.660 you like to say about that any and all of them all right uh first let me just say if you hear

00:39:51.060 screeching in the background it's not some torture victim it's my son he's in this phase where uh

00:39:56.700 the loudest things are the best things so just bear with me there um the other thing i was going

00:40:02.700 to say is kind of elaborating on you know the idea of victory never sleeps something that uh

00:40:09.880 is really important to me into the afa of course and to anyone with an eye on the prize is that

00:40:17.200 you can't rest on your laurels uh you know it's easy to look back at the last 11 years now and

00:40:24.340 say, wow, we have five Hawks. We have Sigurheim. That's pretty impressive. Let's call it quits or

00:40:29.420 let's, you know, stop making progress, whatever. Not that anybody has said that, but you can

00:40:35.320 imagine that type of person, right? That is the wrong answer. We don't, we don't let our fault

00:40:42.100 builders rest on their laurels. We don't want the Gothar rest on their laurels. I think if

00:40:46.420 our ulcerer Goofy just stopped doing stuff, I don't think there would be a coup or anything 0.99

00:40:52.580 per se but i i would imagine you know the speck and gar at least gonna kind of pick things up and 0.88

00:40:58.900 just start going around him when necessary right it and that's kind of it leads into what i was

00:41:06.020 gonna say next is you need to be open to other frontiers of how to recruit people uh there is

00:41:14.100 of course you know say you go to walmart and you see someone wearing a hammer and you can say hey

00:41:18.900 I'm in the AFA, et cetera. Or, uh, you know, you see somebody reading a book on the Vikings and

00:41:25.720 you can say, Hey, that religion is still alive and well and growing. And it's your birthright

00:41:31.460 as a white person. Uh, the current best frontier weapon, whatever you prefer, we have right now 0.82

00:41:42.060 social media, I would say specifically Twitter X, whatever. Uh, I've been active on there because

00:41:50.480 it's fun and getting in arguments with Christians, I confess, but also because, uh, I tend to piss 1.00

00:41:58.640 off said Christians and it makes my reach on there expand a good bit. And, uh, I, you know, 0.99

00:42:07.420 my tweets post, whatever, get in front of eyes that have never heard the AFA or even

00:42:12.180 also true before. And some of them will say, well, you know, I'd love to be pagan, but

00:42:16.740 there's no organizations or temples. And I'm like, no, actually there is one good organization

00:42:23.640 and one organization that has temples and you have five and it's only continuing to

00:42:28.180 grow. And, uh, you know, I, I can't say for certain, like an exact number of people that

00:42:35.720 have joined the affair looked into us just from me arguing with orthodox individuals on uh twitter

00:42:42.520 but it's gotta be more than zero so on this kind of show it's not like i can have spawn just sit

00:42:54.600 there and read chunks of lore while i'm able to like scan the chat so sometimes if i take a second

00:43:00.200 that's that's a piece of it um appreciate everybody joining us tonight somebody asked

00:43:05.720 if this is flavo yes that would be me um oh uh thank you so much gilbert gilbert donated 150

00:43:18.680 towards our pavilion we appreciate you so much a weekly donor to the program um

00:43:25.080 Sherwood donated $20 towards the pavilion.

00:43:30.700 Thank you, Sherwood.

00:43:31.480 We appreciate you.

00:43:33.520 And Stephen from Japan, who is another regular donor on here,

00:43:40.760 donated $15, $10 towards, paying off Freyshoff,

00:43:47.300 excuse me, and $5 towards the pavilion.

00:43:49.140 So we appreciate you guys.

00:43:50.580 We appreciate your generosity.

00:43:51.780 What you're doing significantly helps. Step two that I'll talk about here shortly.

00:44:02.560 Do keep in mind, guys, this is a question and answer based program, so you don't need to come up with just random stuff.

00:44:09.640 But I want you to always feel free to ask whatever you like.

00:44:12.420 We will do our very best to answer that and we'll answer them whenever we've got a space on the show for it.

00:44:21.160 We will get to all the questions that come in tonight before the show's over, so hang

00:44:25.020 in there if you've got a question and we don't jump on it right away.

00:44:31.260 If you have any questions at any point in time, vns at runestone.org, and you can email

00:44:40.440 those in any time, including right now, or between now and the next show and the next

00:44:45.480 opportunity available to us, we will answer them.

00:44:51.160 So, that's a part of the mission.

00:44:56.820 And I want to, I guess I want to reiterate a couple of pieces again.

00:45:04.500 Again, something special happened, and I think in the world that we live in, where we are so immersed in the mundane,

00:45:15.620 sometimes we forget to acknowledge, or it's out of our normal speech patterns to talk about the transcendent when we're talking to other people.

00:45:33.120 So it has, the secularization of our society has made that more of a problem than I think it has been in previous times. 0.53

00:45:45.300 Something miraculous happened and the Allfather whispered in the ear of Steve McDowell to make this happen, to re-forge out the truth of burning our folk home. 1.00

00:45:57.680 Now, that is the foundation that the Obsture Folk Assembly is built on, and it's literally 0.99

00:46:11.240 the will of the Iser that we do this. 1.00

00:46:14.660 There came tasked Steve McNallan with this, and through his ordination and through the

00:46:21.000 church that he founded, Trent and I are tasked with doing this.

00:46:26.100 If you're a member of that church, then that is a part of, you have a role to participate in that task too.

00:46:37.220 Maybe not in the same ordained capacity or the same oath capacity, but it's laying there before you and it is something that we need your help to do.

00:46:46.760 so think about that it's not just a practical boon for the growth and development of the afa

00:46:54.200 but it's literally responding to the directives of the iser of what the all-father would see

00:47:00.460 happen for his folk um so i talked a little bit about the history on the first part and

00:47:10.000 and this will lead us to the second part so i mentioned that the isir um activated

00:47:18.720 a selection of heroes throughout different nations at you know slightly different times

00:47:26.880 in a period there and planted a number of different seeds and each of these people

00:47:34.160 at a very legitimate charge to go and make alsatru happen and a part of that and it's what i want to

00:47:43.600 refer to as the great contest and it wasn't adversarial but it was hey there's you know

00:47:54.000 countless different ways this could work there's all these different ideas in different you know

00:48:01.760 places to put emphasis different um cultural interpretations

00:48:10.240 we hear on this program a lot like how come you guys don't do it this way or how come you guys

00:48:16.400 don't do uh anglo-saxon reconstruction or why don't you guys do um you know a german flavor

00:48:26.240 you know why is it uh old norse flavor well why don't you guys do why aren't you guys hellenists

00:48:33.840 or why aren't you guys celtic all of these questions could have been all of those are

00:48:40.000 valid things that that's a direction we could have gone and this was a time where we were figuring out

00:48:48.800 what's going to work what's going to be the best each of the people that i mentioned in that

00:48:53.920 founding generation or a couple of generations there had opportunities of what this would look

00:49:00.000 like what would be the most effective what was going to win the uh the support of the icer in

00:49:06.880 their endeavors and those brave courageous noble um men and uh and woman

00:49:18.960 they all gave it the best shot and they did lasting beautiful things for our folk and our

00:49:29.280 development but in this time of testing it was to see kind of what works what was going to win out

00:49:38.840 what was going to be the formula that was selected for victory

00:49:44.520 and that has turned out to be the Aus True Folk Assembly. It's turned out to be the seed that was

00:49:52.860 planted within the soul of Steve McNallan that has grown and blossomed and born fruit in our

00:50:02.860 Aus True Folk Assembly. Each of those other organizations founded by those noble and amazing

00:50:08.780 and people over time have drifted away

00:50:11.920 from their original purpose or have collapsed

00:50:14.160 and imploded altogether.

00:50:16.540 The last man standing was Steve

00:50:20.340 and our House of True Folk Assembly.

00:50:23.820 And it wasn't just left standing, but it flourished.

00:50:26.940 It succeeded.

00:50:29.700 And with that success, with that victory

00:50:33.940 comes very profound responsibilities.

00:50:38.780 um a little bit more on that there was during the 90s and the very early 2000s there was

00:50:47.580 this idea that there was parity there were other organizations and other things and you have you

00:50:54.060 know like the big three you have like the organic right and the australians and the austral folk

00:51:00.300 assembly that you know you could kind of choose from and there were some other smaller ones and

00:51:05.740 there was there were a number of different groups vying for um primacy in that

00:51:14.540 and we've watched over the over the you know last last 20 years i'd say

00:51:22.940 that no longer be the case we've seen each of those groups diminish or disappear altogether

00:51:28.940 and the Austrian folk assemblies remain strong it's grown it's prospered and it's

00:51:36.940 developed so that comes to the second the second plank and again so

00:51:49.100 Steve's mission was to bring the folk home was to initiate the rebirth of

00:51:58.780 Alstra Troop and to bring our folk home.

00:52:09.400 Something very special happened to me at Alstra of 2017.

00:52:17.060 So I had been functionally running the Alstra Troop Folk Assembly since Alstra of 2016.

00:52:26.720 officially as the ulcerative at midsummer of 2016 but austral was really the time of year that that

00:52:36.000 that started or the foundations of that started so after a year of

00:52:44.400 doing my very best to prove myself worthy of the position i found myself in

00:52:48.400 Um, the Isir placed a hand upon my shoulder at the start before I blessed the horn of, um, some of that evening.

00:53:07.300 And I guess tell you a little bit about it. 0.91

00:53:14.100 I'd spent that year with the weight of the world on my shoulders.

00:53:17.120 I didn't want to mess it up.

00:53:20.380 I had enormous shoes to fill.

00:53:23.300 I was carrying something forward that all the men and women I spoke about earlier had spent their lives building.

00:53:33.980 And that, you know, there's a lot of responsibility there to do this, to do it right,

00:53:40.020 and to do it in a way that was going to honor the legacy that was passed to me

00:53:45.740 and to be worthy of the ISEAR's approval and trust in what I was doing.

00:53:52.680 And, yeah, there's a lot.

00:53:55.300 So, you know, I'm in my feelings, and I'm going to get up and bless the horn as I do.

00:53:59.940 So I stood up with the horn, and someone put a hand on my shoulder, too.

00:54:04.960 And it was, it's one of those things that you feel in a moment without, without, without words, much is communicated by a very basic, very visceral gesture.

00:54:27.520 and it was really nice and uh you know i thought surely it was alan or you know one of my other

00:54:34.180 colleagues that had been part of this with me putting a hand on my shoulder to reassure me

00:54:38.800 and it did i was sitting up and i was nervous i was in my head man that's great so i looked

00:54:44.640 around to thank whoever it was there was nowhere anywhere close when i said someone put a hand on

00:54:49.980 my shoulder i don't mean i felt like someone put a hand on my shoulder in that moment the gods put

00:54:55.900 their hand on my shoulder. And with that, I was tasked with solidifying and immortalizing

00:55:10.580 the institution of Ausatru, the Ausatru Folk Assembly in Midgard for our generations yet to

00:55:19.040 come and doing the best I could in my time here on Midgard to build that into something that is

00:55:28.600 lasting and that will stand solid and not waver and be here for my children, for my children's

00:55:39.120 children, for all of our children's children into the future. And that is a tremendous

00:55:47.020 task and there's lots of ways to go about trying to make that work and there's tremendous

00:55:55.880 responsibility that's carried by that but it's that understanding and that very sincere belief

00:56:04.020 that guides guides the things that i do in my stewardship of the australian folk assembly

00:56:11.600 so where to go with that and I do have some notes but again it's literally lots of different

00:56:25.740 right answers on what to do with it but that is the mission and it is why all of these things

00:56:33.800 a lot of what I want to do tonight not that there's been a bunch of questions but just

00:56:37.100 just to clarify why we do the stuff we do and maybe why we do it the way that we do.

00:56:45.920 So one thing, when I got involved with AUSA True way back when, and it's hard to put this

00:57:05.180 in the words of what it was, but the question of what is also true was still evasive. And

00:57:13.040 a lot of people, especially a lot of people in our founders generation knew what also

00:57:18.180 true was, but to sit there and explain it to someone was incoherent because it's everything.

00:57:26.500 It's life. It's who you are. It's all of these things. How do you explain that in a statement?

00:57:33.620 You know, how do you, you could define what that word means, troth to the Aesir, or loyalty

00:57:38.780 to the Aesir, loyalty to the gods of our people.

00:57:42.680 But, well, cool, what do you guys believe?

00:57:47.380 And, man, anybody would have, anybody you'd ask would have different answers that mostly,

00:57:54.880 you know, mostly would kind of match up, but would go from a bunch of different directions.

00:58:00.800 and it was very, very hard for people to pinpoint and put their finger on

00:58:07.000 and express in a way that was coherent and consistent.

00:58:11.820 And that remained that way for a long time.

00:58:16.580 Something that I think is very important to the solidification and immortalization of our faith

00:58:24.360 is to codify what that is.

00:58:28.140 what are the beliefs of Alcetru? And I did my very best to do that in the Alcetru Trulamal.

00:58:38.380 It is a document I spent a very, very long time working on because I'm not someone who can sit

00:58:45.240 down and just write. That's never been a strong suit of mine. But it is my best attempt to lay out

00:58:54.140 the fundamentals of what we do, who we are, of our core tenets of our faith in a way that

00:59:05.880 is clarifying to those of us who are out of the truth, but also in a way that is accessible

00:59:15.880 and laid out in a way that builds upon itself for new people or people who are curious to

00:59:23.840 know what is this that you guys are doing? What is this? And that's my attempt to do that the

00:59:31.680 best that I can. That is available as a free PDF on our website. I would encourage anybody who

00:59:38.500 listens to the show to download that and read that. It's not long, but it is, it's what's

00:59:47.580 essential to oust true practice and oust true belief um and i just talked last night we were

00:59:56.320 going to going ahead and getting physical copies of that published for anybody who'd like to have

01:00:00.760 a physical copy of that to refer to or just have handy we'll have those um we'll have those

01:00:07.260 available soon but so i thought that was really important it's something that you know i talked

01:00:13.480 about and wanted when I first became Alcetru and wasn't there, and so it's something I've

01:00:19.880 done my best to try to get out there to rectify that deficit that was there.

01:00:28.100 Next thing, when, and a lot of us, and I won't speak for everybody, but a great many

01:00:36.420 of us that are drawn home to us true love history oftentimes we confine our understanding about true

01:00:45.780 history to viking age stuff i from the moment i came home to also true i wanted to know about

01:00:53.460 our modern history i wanted to know about the afa and about steve's you know journey from

01:01:01.540 his awakening in 1968 to i mean at the time to i don't know early 2000s or wherever i was

01:01:09.220 pondering it at and i wanted to know all this history and you couldn't find it anywhere

01:01:15.380 the best you could do is you could ask a variety of old timers that had

01:01:21.380 differing degrees of of positive or negative feelings towards each other and you know get

01:01:28.500 get kind of rants that were partially truthful and partially misremembered and incoherent because

01:01:36.380 all the pieces everyone didn't have all the pieces so you'd get a little bit here and a

01:01:41.920 little bit there and you'd have to dig for it and the most comprehensive and best version of our

01:01:46.880 history you can get a hold of was our enemies trying to defame us in the book gods of the blood

01:01:53.920 by Matthias Gardel, who infiltrated different groups under false pretenses and put together

01:02:04.000 kind of a history of modern Housetreau up to that point. So I wanted to fix that too. Chris Savage,

01:02:12.760 who is a regular guest on the program and does wonderful history things for us,

01:02:17.460 he has been hard at work now for well over a year compiling our history and working to get

01:02:23.900 that out. I don't know where we are in the completion of that or when that's going to

01:02:28.260 be a finished product. Ideally, it's never going to be a finished product. But when it's

01:02:32.980 going to be a reasonably put together product that we're going to release to folks or whatever,

01:02:41.940 but collecting and solidifying that history is really, really important. And so he's working

01:02:48.220 hard on that if anybody has relevant historical information to modern alsatru if you've got old

01:02:58.220 issues of various newsletters and things any of that stuff chris would be very interested in

01:03:05.900 knowing about and receiving if we got anybody on here that's been around for a while and you

01:03:11.020 have interesting insights chris would love to hear that too c savage s-a-v-i-c-h at runestone.org 0.67

01:03:21.980 he would love to you know get that information to make the best use of it he knows how to 0.84

01:03:27.500 so that's another piece is capturing our history and preserving that history

01:03:33.580 um and i suppose i'll go a bit further on that um that's a core value of house true as well

01:03:41.580 is building legacy and building fame that was everything to our ancestors it's

01:03:54.140 need to be quicker on the draw with mahabamal verses but some of the effect of you know who

01:04:01.260 is there to raise a cairn by the side of the road um to a man that dies with no sons better to have

01:04:07.500 sons laid in life though none at all um or then none at all there's a thing wanting that next

01:04:16.380 generation to remember and to celebrate what you do through monument through stories through

01:04:24.140 singing the praises of your deeds is fundamental to our faith we owe those who've come before us

01:04:31.580 that and celebrating and remembering our heroes is a big part of it so learning our history

01:04:40.060 speaking the names of those who've come before us and also that extends to all of our heroes

01:04:49.020 who've made whose names have been lost in history and so we've done the best we can and continue

01:04:55.180 it's a work that that never stops i've tried really hard in my time to identify heroes from

01:05:02.780 the past that stood up for our faith and their trust to our gods and recognize them days of

01:05:08.860 remembrance that's why in recent years our number of days of remembrance has really surged

01:05:13.980 is I want to give recognition to those who've earned it.

01:05:19.440 And I know that we'll never get all of them,

01:05:22.120 but I want to do the best we can to the ones we know

01:05:25.440 or the ones we have the ability to know.

01:05:27.560 I want to recognize them and remember them and celebrate.

01:05:31.360 So that's why all the days of remembrance, because of that.

01:05:35.700 so other things to

01:05:42.440 make this real and significant and any of these points

01:05:50.440 Trent you can speak up or chime in or bust in if you'd like to

01:05:54.660 feel free I know I know that I'm doing this once we're done

01:05:58.540 we'll have a much more organic exchange

01:06:00.740 but yeah so a couple of things

01:06:05.920 I guess on the same note there

01:06:12.060 we take that legacy

01:06:14.320 seriously we take what's been given to us

01:06:16.320 seriously and

01:06:18.080 we take the line

01:06:20.240 of our gothic ordinations very

01:06:22.260 seriously

01:06:22.820 that

01:06:26.180 same

01:06:26.900 divine

01:06:30.660 recognition that was granted to our founder steve mcnellan carries through with his lineage of

01:06:37.540 ordinations and so we've tried to understand and record any and all of those ordinations

01:06:49.700 from the free assembly days up to and including currently and track those and be good stewards of

01:06:57.220 that responsibility that also goes with us taking our position as gothar extremely serious

01:07:04.660 taking the creation and education of current and future gothar very seriously

01:07:13.460 to build it to where that institution has legitimacy to where there is a standard

01:07:20.260 there is a dignity, and there is a seriousness within the priesthood of our faith.

01:07:30.780 That's another responsibility we take very, very seriously.

01:07:35.840 And it looks like we've got some good questions popping up in the chat.

01:07:39.160 I'm looking forward to getting to those here very shortly.

01:07:41.900 I really am almost done.

01:07:43.740 A couple of other pieces that I'd like to say.

01:07:49.060 So, one of the things about making something, literally solidifying and making something immortal, is making it solid and tangible.

01:08:03.160 the step over the last 11 years to get Hoffs for the first time in centuries perhaps the first time

01:08:14.940 ever to some of these gods certainly the first time that we have recorded is a huge responsibility

01:08:23.000 that we're doing our best to fulfill and we have five so far but having physical locations and

01:08:31.340 real estate real property that is property of our church and our gods is a huge step forward

01:08:40.900 in making this real and solid and tangible when family members of our membership uh me when my

01:08:50.000 dad my stepmom came to off the first time everything became instantly so very real

01:08:57.720 because they saw us practice and they went

01:09:02.280 and they could lean against the building and be like,

01:09:05.200 oh, wow, you all have houses of worship that are legitimate

01:09:10.200 that anyone would recognize as a house of worship.

01:09:13.520 Yes, we do.

01:09:14.840 So we have five Hoffs so far

01:09:17.560 and an ambitious project in the works,

01:09:21.920 Tiers Hoff, our sixth Hoff at the Sigurheim Prop.

01:09:26.060 building a hoff for the very first time from the ground up as a hoff that's complicated

01:09:36.940 you're going to take a lot of work and a lot of help any of you who have any relevant skill to

01:09:43.320 that we would love to have your help in that process but that's something we're doing to

01:09:47.940 build that legitimacy and that immortality for our folk and for our faith so the other thing

01:09:56.020 is the sickerheim property itself being the afa capital i've moved out here to jackson county

01:10:03.140 tennessee to fully commit to making that happen over the coming years months and years i want to

01:10:13.460 get those that would like to serve in that capacity of being part of the nerve center

01:10:20.020 of the afa to move out here to this county to build real footprint in the county you know

01:10:29.060 community to where we're here and we're in here in a big enough number to where we matter

01:10:33.860 and to run the afa from a hall that we will build on sigerhan property and that capital that place

01:10:44.900 of centralizing afa operations and then projecting that throughout midgard is a big part of the vision

01:10:54.020 coming up and somewhere in the early stages of but we want to plan it and do it right and

01:11:00.980 that will be manifesting over the next few years but it's an opportunity for people who'd like to

01:11:05.220 be a part of it to get out here and be part of making it happen and anybody interested we would

01:11:10.900 love to help facilitate that and make stuff make stuff work um final couple pieces we need more

01:11:20.100 hands to do this faster and better and if you want to be matt's neighbor there's an opening possible

01:11:27.300 yeah we got a house um directly adjacent to our our property in the back here that's nice

01:11:33.380 recently remodeled real good price so there's there's good opportunities um trying to talk my

01:11:41.620 co-host and get in this house um but but we'll see need to find a remote job so if anybody knows of

01:11:48.740 one that's gonna hire uh someone who's been in the news for being a meanie racist you let me know

01:11:56.420 yeah but you've got your like uh military uh loan benefits and stuff yeah yeah you know we'll figure

01:12:03.780 it out there you go so um a couple couple things we need more hands more people to get involved

01:12:10.580 the other thing is oh okay so all right

01:12:17.700 again all over the place uh astro academy i mentioned it earlier

01:12:20.900 to build this into the future one of the most significant things but one that's not going to

01:12:26.400 bear its ultimate fruit for some time is the astro academy we now have a homeschooling program

01:12:33.480 to where you can homeschool your children through the astro academy through the astro focusing

01:12:39.820 um we are committed to that it's something we've wanted since day one it is in its early stages but

01:12:48.980 have curriculum for grades k through 12 and we have staff to help you take your child through

01:12:58.100 all the required education they need for the state that you live in to protect them from

01:13:04.180 the influences that would tear us apart in the outside world and to educate them in our

01:13:11.540 traditions and our values and build them to do this in the future in all that we're working so

01:13:18.180 hard to build. It's a huge thing. If you have children that are school-aged and you want to

01:13:25.280 homeschool, if you are an AFA member, we invite you to enroll in this fall's class at the

01:13:32.440 Astro Academy. Other thing I was going to say, and this is kind of a just ran on different

01:13:37.760 things. There is an element of people, probably some of you listening, that aren't big on

01:13:44.820 joining and man why can't we all just do our own thing you know wouldn't it be cool if everybody

01:13:50.020 just did their own thing in their own backyard with their friends no it wouldn't because that

01:13:57.300 dies with you you're really lucky there may be some kids and friends of kids that kind of carry

01:14:03.300 it on a little bit but the more we separate ourselves into ever increasingly minute and

01:14:09.540 irrelevant little groups the less we are a thing we exist in a world where what people think

01:14:16.900 matters the impression we makes that that matters and power matters we are weak when we're a bunch

01:14:23.940 of unorganized unconnected you know everybody around in the backyard in camp chairs fighting

01:14:32.340 over the big piece of chicken that has held us back when we come together and everyone is part

01:14:39.140 of the austrian folk assembly we move forward a good example go ahead okay so uh a good parallel

01:14:49.460 i like to draw with this is the tale of uh prince herman of the truski you know the germanic tribes

01:14:56.580 none of them really liked what rome was doing to them there were some that kind of went along to

01:15:01.940 get along with it you know they their chieftains might make some money or whatever have some kind

01:15:07.060 prestige better trading options by dealing with rome but by and large the uh especially the north

01:15:14.020 sea area of germans um they did not like rome they did not like its influence even before christianity

01:15:20.020 was a part of that and uh you know there was a long period where they all just kind of stood 0.83

01:15:26.740 around griping and complaining about it going well one of these days you know we'll beat rome

01:15:31.860 one of these days we'll have the roman yoke off our backs and you know that didn't happen the 0.72

01:15:38.180 battle to the bird forest only happened because herman the prince of the cheruski stood up and 0.94

01:15:43.620 said hey what if we just all work together under one banner and kicked rome out of germany or

01:15:52.020 germania and uh you know sadly of course he uh he was killed by treachery and while they had kicked

01:16:00.100 thrown out. After that, they went back to being these separate little tribes that just fought

01:16:06.620 and squabbled amongst each other instead of worrying about more important things. And

01:16:11.460 the AFA is Prince Herman in this analogy. We need to not let his fate become our people's fate.

01:16:30.100 That takes everybody.

01:16:35.460 It's hard because that requires commitment.

01:16:40.620 It requires commitment to something outside of yourself.

01:16:44.120 Maybe something that you don't know everyone involved.

01:16:48.260 You become part of a team and you may take issue with something.

01:16:52.920 Maybe everything's not perfectly the way that you'd like it because everybody wants it perfect the way that they'd like it.

01:17:00.100 it means being willing to get over comfort zone and hesitancies and to trust other people and to

01:17:10.580 trust a institution or organization to be noble and good in the pathway forward for our faith

01:17:20.420 but i would encourage all of you to join the house tree folk assembly and join today got a bunch of

01:17:26.180 of people that sit on the fence and, you know, one of these days when I can make it out to

01:17:30.160 something or I get this new job or when I move or when I, it's always one of these days. There is

01:17:37.800 no day like today. One of these days, very often for people, one of these days never comes.

01:17:46.660 Today is the day. If you're thinking about it, if you're considering it, if you are a heterosexual

01:17:51.960 a white person come home to the australian folk assembly help us run the mission let's make it

01:17:59.000 happen um with that we got questions we got stuff and before we get into it i would like to

01:18:05.560 acknowledge the generous donations of laroi who donated uh 20 each towards paying off phraseoff

01:18:14.760 and towards the pavilion thank you very much we appreciate your regular donations on here thank you

01:18:21.480 and gw farnsworth consistent pillar of generosity on the program you were awesome

01:18:29.000 thank you so much he donated 25 um each to uh uh pavilion and towards citterhams so thank you

01:18:40.840 uh you're awesome we appreciate you so much everybody's been generous to us we really

01:18:47.160 appreciate you guys and you were helping absolutely with building this into something

01:18:52.280 that will be here for our children and for their children um i know we got questions and comments

01:18:57.960 and stuff going on so i'd like to get to some of those but first trent can you talk about the

01:19:06.600 cedricomol and what lessons can be learned from it i like to use the prayer from that poem for

01:19:12.600 my daily practice and the story has always fascinated me thanks floor is yours uh yeah

01:19:20.200 i can go into it a little bit it's been so long since i've read the sigdrip them all that i

01:19:27.160 don't remember all the particulars of i do remember the prayer from it of course the

01:19:30.440 hail day hail the sons of day etc the biggest importance of that to me and we teach this to

01:19:37.800 to all of our go-thar is that that's got a like built-in prayer in it so you know there's lots of 0.74

01:19:45.940 uh i people and i guess i would say our circle these people that kind of they leave christianity

01:19:52.860 and they sort of want to throw the baby out with the bath water and they don't want any kind of

01:19:57.720 piety or sense of devotion the whole i don't kneel before my god's thing i don't you know

01:20:02.820 nature is my church, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

01:20:05.760 These types often come to Alcetru or Norse paganism,

01:20:09.660 whatever they tend to call it.

01:20:11.700 And they say, I don't pray to any gods.

01:20:14.040 I don't ask gods for help, et cetera.

01:20:19.560 But we can point to Cedrifamol and say, okay, but they're right there.

01:20:24.920 Our ancestors did pray.

01:20:26.300 um and there are other times where it's kind of but frankly there are other times where it's said

01:20:35.160 almost explicitly anyway but the sigdrift mall is the best like clear-cut explicit and concise

01:20:43.260 time we have where we see someone praying uh you know in our ancestors time so that's that's the

01:20:53.240 uh main significance i assign to it right now where i can't remember much of the story outside

01:20:59.640 of that but uh since celine asked if i read it again sometime soon i'll uh let you know

01:21:07.560 what other significance i find there sorry i put you on the spot because it entertains me to do so

01:21:14.360 so um yeah what trent said all of those things but i also think

01:21:23.240 There is something to be said there, and I don't want to get out of my depth with Jungian psychology, but there is a meeting of the hero with his completion, with his shadow self, with his counterpart to where he becomes a fully integrated and evolved hero at that point.

01:21:53.240 When he has that moment of interaction with the Valkyrie, he gets a memory draft and he gets an enhancement of his powers that makes him mightier.

01:22:20.840 that has runes of forget all the different runic incantations of it but there is a completion of

01:22:28.840 self that elevates him by going through ordeal and interacting with the valkyrie and it's

01:22:37.160 it's a special moment of um actualization and ascension i think is spoken to there a lot

01:22:47.300 Everything Trent said about that prayer. And the prayer is a cool example because it's one of the very few examples we have of kind of an explicit prayer from our ancestors.

01:23:00.800 Our ancestors were reverent people. Don't let bros of true people fool you on that. Our people had piety and reverence.

01:23:10.840 appreciate our audience that is uh when i was

01:23:18.320 talking about you know do it now because you know for people someday often never comes

01:23:27.200 i appreciate somebody else immediately thought of uh ccr on that i absolutely did so good for you

01:23:34.140 You guys, listen to me now, each and every mother's son.

01:23:38.640 Better learn fast, better learn it young.

01:23:41.620 Cause someday never comes.

01:23:46.740 It's a thing.

01:23:48.160 I like that song.

01:23:49.380 One of my favorite songs by CCR.

01:23:55.180 But it's true.

01:23:56.860 You put things off and I think that we all,

01:23:59.560 this goes back to another thing we talk about

01:24:01.320 on the show a lot.

01:24:03.200 don't look perfectly the enemy of good. Today is always the right time to start. We always have an

01:24:07.920 artificial goal in our head and we have a tendency to push that goal further and further out

01:24:14.920 because making commitments and engaging in something takes, it's scary. You get outside

01:24:25.140 of your comfort zone. It's much easier to put it off. This is something you shouldn't put off.

01:24:31.460 You know, I wish, I wish so much that I would have joined the AFA earlier.

01:24:38.140 I regret all the years of my adult life that I, before I came to the AFA, that I didn't know about it sooner, that I didn't get involved earlier.

01:24:47.820 So, now's the time.

01:24:54.300 Other stuffs.

01:24:55.960 All right.

01:24:56.440 what is what about our folk who aren't devout as a true odinus wilderness but who are devout

01:25:04.280 racialists how would they fit in within the afa let's say you trent oh they would fit just fine

01:25:13.800 so long as they can sort of be willing to uh trying to phrase it in a way that doesn't sound 0.63

01:25:22.680 like a repackaging of that thing christians say about like letting jesus into your heart

01:25:27.720 right but it is similar to that you need to have an open mind and uh you know the ulterior

01:25:36.200 you mentioned earlier about everybody being i forget the word he used the word i use for

01:25:39.720 it's cynical i guess everybody's very willing to shoot things down all the time and find little

01:25:45.000 little scabs to pick at with or whatever um but essentially they need to sort of suspend

01:25:53.000 that cynicism at least for this one very important thing uh and

01:26:01.400 be willing to be open to the possibility that the icr are real and that they exist 0.70

01:26:08.680 and that they have an effect on our folk and on our world uh just to i guess share my story on

01:26:16.200 that kind of so i was uh raised mormon um got baptized i was a deacon at age 12 all that around

01:26:27.800 13 i decided i didn't like the god of the bible and i felt really bad about it at first because

01:26:33.960 because I thought, you know, this is the God, and he sounds like a bad God.

01:26:40.040 So I became atheist.

01:26:44.000 And when I heard about Alcestru, and the AFA specifically,

01:26:48.280 the idea of being able to venerate my Anglo-Saxon ancestors sounded cool,

01:26:54.420 even though I wasn't racially aware at the time anyway.

01:26:59.420 I just thought it, you know, I was kind of in this headspace of, well, every people deserves to have their space and venerate their own ancestors and their own traditions.

01:27:10.920 And I still believe that. I just, you know, care about mine a lot more than anyone else's.

01:27:18.100 And so I came to my first AFA event, the OSTAR 2016, that the Ulster Agoti mentioned, actually.

01:27:26.020 and i did not feel immediately that i believed in the icer but i wanted to and i think that's

01:27:33.000 important not even wanting to but being open to wanting to is the bare minimum i would say

01:27:42.060 you frankly you cannot join the afa if you if you say no i'm racially aware i love my folk

01:27:48.820 but i will never ever believe in the icer or whatever then like no you would not be allowed

01:27:54.160 to join. I wish I could say there was a place, you know, for that, but there's not. You need

01:27:59.200 to at least be open to the idea and be willing to give it a chance. So yeah, that's the answer

01:28:06.020 to that. So I'll pull it back a little bit from that. You do need to want to, not just

01:28:16.200 be open to wanting to. And I think that's a nuance that people miss, but no, we're a

01:28:21.800 church. I think that people, and I answer questions, keep in mind, I answer them for

01:28:33.020 everybody listening, so I'm not aiming every comment at the person who asked, but I, I

01:28:42.800 mean, I'm certainly doing that, but I'd like to also say it for anybody else who's listening.

01:28:48.360 And I think that people who, I'm trying to be respectful with it, but if you're not, if you don't feel that you are necessarily religious or you don't like organized religion, get religious.

01:29:13.320 Learn to like organized religion.

01:29:15.940 That's part of the mission is organized religion moves this forward and puts this here for our children.

01:29:22.940 Organized religion builds this for our folk.

01:29:27.420 It being disorganized stops it from making progress.

01:29:31.960 It being disorganized does not allow for us to have nice things or to build solid institution.

01:29:38.300 we literally worship the gods of order and we stand against the forces of chaos

01:29:45.960 those themes are played out by the need for organized faith and organized religion

01:29:51.740 and i i understand if you've come to your feeling because um you've had bad experiences

01:30:00.480 with organized religion there are tons of terrible organized religions there's tons

01:30:07.380 of corruption and terrible organization

01:30:09.900 and really bad things.

01:30:12.200 But that problem isn't with the organization

01:30:15.340 or with the concept of organization.

01:30:18.760 It is with that particular organization.

01:30:21.800 It's with that particular faith.

01:30:25.320 You don't need to, day one,

01:30:30.600 pretend that you have some devout faith

01:30:34.460 in the Iser that you don't have,

01:30:36.380 but you do need to have an honest desire to build a serious faith with the ice here you need to be

01:30:45.520 open to letting spiritual things happen and if your entry point is i don't know about all this

01:30:52.420 australia stuff but i'm white and i'm proud and i know our people need religion and they don't

01:31:00.020 need christianity so let's give it a shot cool that is a good enough place to start

01:31:05.760 but it's not a good enough place to finish

01:31:08.380 but it is absolutely a good enough place to start

01:31:11.080 and if that's where you find yourself

01:31:12.960 we would love to have you join

01:31:15.000 and hopefully you build an understanding

01:31:18.740 of why we are organized

01:31:19.960 and appreciation of that

01:31:21.400 and you can build piece by piece

01:31:24.180 a relationship with the gods

01:31:26.240 that's really fundamental to know about this

01:31:29.000 we don't

01:31:32.120 it is not a fair expectation

01:31:34.780 in any relationship for us to expect that day one you immediately devote your whole life to

01:31:44.780 one of the gods sight unseen that's not how relationship works

01:31:51.340 but we do want you to go into it with that in mind and we do want you to go into it in a place

01:31:59.220 where you are open to letting the gods work in your life

01:32:03.440 and building upon a gift cycle with them.

01:32:09.540 And having that open-minded and open-heartedness

01:32:12.580 is what's going to facilitate your ability to grow in our faith.

01:32:18.160 But yeah, being racially aware is going to absolutely put you in good stead

01:32:22.640 with the vast majority of our members,

01:32:26.320 certainly depending on how you express it.

01:32:29.020 but no that's fine it's a fine place to start and a lot of people came to the austral folk assembly

01:32:34.460 from that kind of a mindset of that kind of a place many of those people have built a really

01:32:39.020 strong belief in the gods and are currently members of our of our organized religion are

01:32:46.620 currently you know folk builders or gothar within within uh austral folk assembly so yeah don't

01:32:53.580 it's not a closed door but i do want to be clear on no we're trying to be being organized is a big

01:32:58.460 part of what makes it work a lot of things go together i noticed that people have these pick

01:33:04.780 and choose things i'm like man i like all of these things that organized religion brings but

01:33:11.900 i don't like organized religion you can't always have one without you know i i see that um anecdotally

01:33:22.540 there's a former troth steward um the truth was this universalist lefty

01:33:29.820 group that at one point in time was trying to practice house of true um

01:33:35.660 but you know this woman would come over to my house when i'd have people come over to 1.00

01:33:42.460 do bloat or to share a meal when i first got involved in house troops she was local there and

01:33:47.100 And she had a daughter, and she was very uncomfortable with the traditionalist stance on race and sexuality because we're surrounded by this, you know, quote-unquote tolerance culture to where we're supposed to be accepting of things that are unacceptable.

01:34:11.420 but she liked what we were doing she liked hanging around around good people and she felt safe and

01:34:19.580 she felt that her daughter was safe when she was around the people that thought like you're supposed

01:34:25.480 to think or that she's comfortable with you know hearing in the media to think she did not feel

01:34:31.720 safe around those people and certainly did not feel safe with her child around those people

01:34:35.980 and that really tells you a lot of things some things just go together and you may not

01:34:41.160 like all of those things up front, but they're part of a pattern, and they're connected for a reason.

01:34:48.660 An organization is definitely something that's very important to our advancement as folk.

01:34:58.800 It seems much evidence exists that cults to certain deities were always a thing. Does that

01:35:05.920 seemingly touched too closely towards monotheism in some way that we feel we have to say that was

01:35:12.340 irregular i think this builds off of a statement that some people have glommed on to from a couple

01:35:19.980 weeks ago trent what would you say to that stand alone i would say no it it let me look at the

01:35:27.620 question so i can word it okay no i wouldn't say it was irregular i don't think we need to say it

01:35:36.100 was irregular and i don't think it leans too closely towards monotheism i get why people

01:35:41.460 would ask that and i can't go back in time and read you know my 45th great grandfather's mind

01:35:51.040 or whatever about how he felt about you know his devotion to thor specifically or whatever

01:35:59.840 but no they're being cults of gods or goddesses specifically to uh different areas or within

01:36:06.000 different occupations or whatever that's just it that's still a thing that happens we wouldn't

01:36:13.040 call it a cult now because of the negative connotations of the word but you could almost

01:36:17.760 look at each of our hoffs as almost the center for a cult of that god or goddess and it doesn't mean

01:36:22.960 that we don't worship the other gods at those hoffs uh for example we don't have a major holy

01:36:28.960 tide centered around the order uh but as the hoff go with the mjords hoff i do have a specific

01:36:35.120 devotion to your there as do most of my people there uh but of course we still give blow to

01:36:42.960 Thor

01:36:44.420 in January for Thor blow

01:36:46.860 we give blow to 0.94

01:36:47.800 Ny'erther's own son, Invy Frey 0.73

01:36:49.960 for Decent Thing,

01:36:51.840 Astra in March for

01:36:53.660 Astra, etc.

01:36:57.200 Like I said,

01:36:58.120 you can look back through history,

01:36:59.860 our people's history specifically, and

01:37:01.660 find these

01:37:03.760 cults all over.

01:37:05.760 And while there would be groups that were

01:37:07.620 specifically dedicated to the Allfather or

01:37:09.720 to Thor based on locality or

01:37:11.720 occupation,

01:37:12.960 it doesn't rule out the worship of other gods uh and if i'm understanding the question right

01:37:21.760 i don't i think it would be dishonest to say it was irregular because it was very regular

01:37:27.440 uh and it it still sort of is if you ask i would say pretty much anybody in alsatru or

01:37:33.920 also true adjacent circles uh pagan circles if they have a god or goddess that they're closest

01:37:39.920 to they may have an answer of more than one but many of them will have one that they feel closest

01:37:45.120 to i could reference you to different points in my own life at least uh you know being a man

01:37:51.440 my first of the ice here that i felt closest to was thor of course especially being a scrawny kid

01:37:57.200 who wanted to be a less scrawny kid and i think many men would say the same that there was a point

01:38:02.800 where they were all about thor and then there's a point where they're all about the all-father

01:38:08.000 all about tear whatever um so no i i don't think we should say it was irregular

01:38:14.240 and i also don't think it's close to monotheism so

01:38:21.280 that's what i sign up for when i go side on scene on that

01:38:24.960 trying to counter signal me no i think that maybe the hit the hiccup that we get is on the term

01:38:31.360 irregular and when i said irregular what i meant was yes i get that there are specific cults to

01:38:43.040 different deities and there would be specific sometimes priests of different beings

01:38:51.760 the way i interpreted the question that i asked that way about it being irregular what i meant

01:38:56.400 about irregular was no the average participant in also true was not fully devoted to one god

01:39:05.360 over all of the others the question as i recall it was about the concept of full trui or being

01:39:12.240 completely um like that is your focus i think in the depth and breadth of our ancestral practice

01:39:21.520 the vast majority of people were, you know, regularly worshiping the appropriate God and

01:39:31.100 goddess for a particular season, for a particular location, for a particular event or purpose.

01:39:39.940 And I think that what Trent said is also true. I think everybody probably has one or a couple

01:39:46.300 that they pray to more than the others. That's probably absolutely true.

01:39:52.220 But the idea that craftsmen only prayed to Thor

01:39:59.220 and the nobility only prayed to Odin,

01:40:01.540 and if you owned a boat, you had to pray to Njorden

01:40:05.020 and nobody else, I think that is what I was saying

01:40:08.880 is irregular.

01:40:10.000 That's not the relationship where there was, you know,

01:40:13.220 so-and-so Thor's men or so-and-so Frey's govi.

01:40:17.740 Those happened and those are literal, you know,

01:40:20.180 from the sagas, names, that you would have people

01:40:23.580 that that was the case.

01:40:25.620 But it's remarkable because of its uniqueness.

01:40:28.240 That was, in my understanding of the term, irregular

01:40:33.240 that someone would be that particular

01:40:35.220 in their devotion to one God over the others.

01:40:37.960 I don't think it is monotheism.

01:40:41.060 I don't think it borders on monotheism.

01:40:42.860 I think that's unfair to people who do things that way.

01:40:46.140 And some of it may be my own bias because of the time that I've been involved in House of Truth.

01:40:56.180 We have much more people, much higher percentage of people who've joined House of Truth in the last 20 years that are...

01:41:04.340 I don't want to sound disparaging.

01:41:13.180 And I think when I say they take it more seriously, it's not exactly what I want to say, but like they're more mature in their approach to it, I guess.

01:41:24.940 Early on, it was very common. 0.98

01:41:28.580 Everyone who joins needs to be a gothi. 0.96

01:41:32.700 Everyone who joins is going to be a viki or a run master. 0.81

01:41:37.000 everyone who joins 0.98

01:41:39.340 needs to pick a patron god

01:41:41.240 and they're like 1.00

01:41:41.980 the mono

01:41:43.700 maybe not monotheist but certainly

01:41:46.720 mono

01:41:47.980 like that's the entirety of their

01:41:51.180 focus they won't like

01:41:52.520 not participate in a bloat

01:41:55.040 to someone else but

01:41:56.940 the only god they are ever talked

01:41:59.120 about they need a full true ego

01:42:00.820 whatever that was

01:42:02.900 very very common in

01:42:04.780 the early days of modern house

01:42:06.340 true. So if I react to that, that may be me taking that unfairly. But no, I think that

01:42:14.040 most people, one of the things that I've noticed, and I believe that our ancestors did this

01:42:20.040 as well, different occasions in your life, different seasons of your life, different

01:42:25.560 situations you find yourself in, bring a different understanding and a different closeness to

01:42:34.100 different gods and goddesses for different reasons and i notice you know like trent said

01:42:41.460 oftentimes that flows to you know where you're at in your life you encounter alsatru where you're at

01:42:47.840 in your life as you grow and develop on where you see that emphasis and like trent mentioned he

01:42:55.420 wasn't naturally you know going to be a nordsman but he found himself as the hofgothi for nords

01:43:02.300 half and so he's developed a closer relationship because he tends his half he takes care of his

01:43:10.680 you know his area in Midgard so he's going to have a close relationship and I think that's the case

01:43:16.060 with anyone you have the people in your family that you are closest to you have we all have

01:43:24.820 preferences and that's not what I'm addressing what I was addressing was people who confine

01:43:29.620 their worship to the cult of this. And that was irregular for the common man. It wasn't

01:43:37.580 irregular as if it wasn't found at all periods of history. It certainly was. But the average

01:43:43.780 Ausitruer was not fully in the cult of Freyja. They were worshiping the Aesir, and maybe

01:43:51.240 they felt closer to Freyja or had a better relationship with her. But it wasn't... When

01:43:58.980 it is at that level, it, by default, does segregate one off from a level of closeness that they

01:44:05.660 might otherwise have with the other gods. And so it's not something I really like to push people

01:44:10.480 towards doing, although I think that as we grow and specialize, more of that will happen in

01:44:16.860 particular areas for particular reasons um will Yost Turner and the National

01:44:29.760 Socialist kindred be included in a documented and or written history of the

01:44:34.500 Austria folk assembly absolutely Yost was a profound influence and very close

01:44:44.460 most personal friend of Steve's for a lot of years there um and he was a very active and

01:44:53.340 very good member of the AFA for for a time near towards the end of his life um yeah I

01:44:59.880 think any discussion of AFA's foundation well certainly the Astro Folk Assembly's foundation

01:45:08.160 And Steve's development and his time of kind of rebuilding the AFA during that time.

01:45:20.880 I think any of that would be incomplete if we didn't mention Yost.

01:45:25.860 So, yeah, we'll absolutely, you know, proudly make mention Yost.

01:45:30.880 Trent, what is the

01:45:35.980 AFA's view on Yorth

01:45:37.960 and Earth worship?

01:45:40.100 How do you feel about the usage of titles

01:45:42.160 like Yorthan

01:45:44.240 Mother, Earth Mother

01:45:46.280 or Fyramodur 0.90

01:45:47.760 Mother of Men?

01:45:52.840 The AFA's view

01:45:54.320 on Yorth is that she is the

01:45:56.160 mother of Thor and

01:45:57.520 thus included in the

01:45:59.980 alsinger uh speckinger spawn would be able to break that down for you in a much neater way like

01:46:07.600 he is one to do uh earth worship so we're not animists but we don't assign we don't believe

01:46:18.980 that every blade of grass every rock every tree has a soul there can be a sacrality assigned to

01:46:27.320 trees or rocks or whatever um but no it's with every

01:46:36.200 every piece of flora on earth and thus the rock that is the earth uh had a soul it would

01:46:47.780 kind of thrill a wrench sort of into

01:46:52.480 the idea of our place as mankind or aryankind i suppose uh and kind of our place and all this i

01:47:03.740 think uh but sort of back to the question i guess we don't worship the earth because the earth is

01:47:12.180 just the earth it many parts of it are sacred to us of course our hoffs are on earth um

01:47:23.300 the airman soul was on earth etc etc uh as far as usage of titles like jordan moulder

01:47:31.620 or fear of moulder i'm not opposed to them so long as they're assigned as cannings to the correct

01:47:39.620 alcenior uh jordan mother you know would be jordan of course uh fear of mother mother of men

01:47:48.540 i would i don't know which of the goddesses i would assign that one to

01:47:53.920 uh i suppose frig would be closest unless there is some some kind of obscure

01:48:02.380 alcenia located in like only one little part of the netherlands or something that i'm not thinking

01:48:08.160 go uh but to answer that question more generally yeah we're never opposed to kennings so long as

01:48:15.200 they're not impious or just incorrect i suppose so it's hard to unpack what some people mean by

01:48:32.880 some questions and again keep in mind that i answer the questions for the general audience as

01:48:42.400 well as best i can for the the specific questioner so if i go off of you know what you meant to ask

01:48:49.440 or what you meant by the question i apologize and hopefully it is beneficial to somebody who's

01:48:54.160 listening. In the AFA, we have 12 Aesir that we worship, and we have two major Aesir that we

01:49:15.620 worship, along with several of Frigg's court that we worship. We also tend to worship

01:49:29.100 the austra in the spring we also tend to worship from time to time the soul there are

01:49:41.180 that list of 14 is real important to worship for mankind there are other deities other divine

01:49:52.140 forces in our cosmos that is certainly okay to give worship and to build a relationship with

01:50:02.780 in you know when weighing things as long as they are on the side of order and not on the side of

01:50:09.980 chaos and yorth is one of those one of those figures so i don't have a problem with that

01:50:17.180 but her worship is not one of the, you know, required things by the Astro Folk Center.

01:50:24.460 But when we talk about Earth worship,

01:50:32.920 to some extent this is semantics, but the bigger point is something I'd like to make.

01:50:41.380 Like Trent was saying, we're not animus.

01:50:47.180 Yordh is the goddess that has dominion over, has...

01:51:01.620 There are lots of earth associations.

01:51:06.100 Yordh is not the dirt.

01:51:08.000 um it's like when we have a sacred grove or a sacred rock or a sacred tree the rock isn't a

01:51:19.540 thing there is a spirit that inhabits the rock or that the rock might be sacred too

01:51:27.420 but the rock itself isn't a thing and i get that in

01:51:34.840 I get that it's splitting hairs at some point

01:51:39.820 but I think extended logically

01:51:41.560 it is important

01:51:42.460 every single tree doesn't necessarily

01:51:45.800 have some kind of

01:51:48.120 land

01:51:49.140 associated with it

01:51:51.260 a forest might

01:51:53.420 a grove of trees might

01:51:55.020 or a special tree might

01:51:56.420 but it's not like you're

01:51:59.380 murdering stuff

01:52:01.360 when you chop down trees to build a house

01:52:04.480 And I think those are kind of important distinctions, and I may go really far afield from your question, so I apologize if they do.

01:52:12.400 There is a sacrality in nature, but there are spirits with specific personality, with agency, and ability to participate in the gift cycle that inhabit those spaces.

01:52:28.180 And those deities, those persons, are what we direct the worship to, not the physical object that symbolizes them or that, you know, is relevant to worship.

01:52:46.220 i i guess in a similar way in some cases you know our murals at behalf we direct worship

01:52:53.700 towards the mural but the mural is a painting of odin it's not open but we worship him through

01:53:02.420 the mural or through the representation of him in a natural setting sometimes you will have that

01:53:09.220 with a special tree or a special rock or a special location but it's like when i go and make offerings

01:53:15.960 at my mom's tombstone i'm not worshiping the tombstone i'm making offerings to my mother who

01:53:21.480 is symbolized and who the tombstone is a portal or a gateway to that connection if that makes sense

01:53:32.920 um next up

01:53:38.280 how would you approach a family member that likes the idea of the afa but struggles to let go of

01:53:44.440 the idea of there being one god which thoughts trent

01:53:59.880 i

01:54:03.640 i guess if

01:54:07.880 they like the idea of the afa i would ask them what they like about it um

01:54:12.520 um, you can sort of approach that issue the same way you would approach someone that is not quite

01:54:21.840 ready to join the AFA because they don't believe in the Aesir, but you know you can kind of get

01:54:27.220 them there, you know? And the way a lot of people start, and I mentioned this is kind of how I

01:54:32.200 started too, is, you know, is getting them venerating their ancestors, kind of reading the

01:54:38.700 stories of their ancestors or thinking back to their how much they love their grandma and

01:54:42.900 the thing too is you know you may saying out loud that we speak to our ancestors

01:54:49.020 might sound hokey or whatever to someone not help inside these this circle we're in

01:54:55.140 but it at least in the south in the bible belt i've noticed it's a thing that even white christians

01:55:02.360 do even though it would probably count as blasphemy right because this idea of speaking

01:55:09.080 to our ancestors that would be on bail usually it's once they remember of course whereas once

01:55:14.440 you're announced true you speak to any and all of them but the concept is still there and if you can

01:55:20.440 kind of relate to this person that the ancestors do hear you when you speak to them because you

01:55:27.160 are connected to them that can kind of get their head in that right sort of space to

01:55:34.520 start leaning more towards the idea of there being more than one god the other thing that

01:55:43.540 kind of works too with people that are at least racially aware i guess is you can tell them hey

01:55:51.640 did you know jesus's real name it wasn't jesus it was yeshua and he was a rabbi and

01:55:59.560 you know i don't know how uh j-pilled as the kids say your relatives might be but even if they're

01:56:07.900 not frankly you can bring up that hey jesus was jewish and that's you know fine for them to have

01:56:16.640 a god where they're his chosen people that's great for them but we're not as chosen people

01:56:21.840 why would you worship this one god that uh claims to love one people more than others another thing

01:56:29.200 i've pointed out is it's either the first or the second commandment i don't remember but it says

01:56:35.700 you know thou shalt have no other gods before me or whatever the wording is different in different

01:56:41.020 translations but i'm pretty sure just about all of them it says there are other gods i just should

01:56:46.680 be above them the i being uh yahweh which is the original name of god the word god itself is uh

01:56:55.380 essentially a descendant of a name for the all father you can bring that up there's lots of

01:57:01.900 little things like that it kind of depends on how the person you know you'll know this person better

01:57:08.160 than I will just speaking generally to an audience. Right. But depending on what you know

01:57:12.600 about that person, their personality and how they like to look at things, you know, more logically

01:57:17.240 or emotively or whatever, you can kind of take different roads to, to get them where you need

01:57:22.960 to get them. Uh, do you have any more specific tips on that, sir? Tips and tricks. So don't

01:57:31.480 you're all right this isn't a everybody's parents or everybody's loved ones are different

01:57:40.720 um you're gonna know them way better than i do so

01:57:46.960 what i would advise against or just say as a general rule

01:57:52.440 you don't have to

01:57:57.400 you don't have to make a confrontation

01:58:03.620 if they like the idea of the afa but they can't quite get over their belief in

01:58:16.640 one god if that's how they would put it it tells you a couple of things

01:58:22.260 if you are a devout christian you are not okay with the idea of the afa at all

01:58:32.040 it is extreme heresy and impiety for you to be okay with any paganism at all

01:58:43.840 so if you are

01:58:46.760 you're already

01:58:49.080 receptive

01:58:49.860 yeah you're already susceptible to like

01:58:52.880 susceptible I guess

01:58:55.340 to our message

01:58:57.340 and to what we're doing

01:58:58.500 that's progress

01:58:59.640 well I can't get over the idea of

01:59:03.240 you know not one God

01:59:04.760 that's not 0.95

01:59:07.480 you bible beating about Jehovah

01:59:09.420 or about the God 0.61

01:59:11.280 of the bible or whatever

01:59:12.600 that's somebody already dialing it back to they like the concept of monotheism that also brings

01:59:21.540 them way closer because then it's a logical question and not a emotionally bound I don't

01:59:31.540 want to be disloyal to this bible god and burn in hell these were all really good things that

01:59:39.880 bring them a lot closer. Encourage them to do stuff with you, to come to the AFA events, 1.00

01:59:45.920 to come to a Hoff. And if they, well, you know, I can't get, if they're hemming and hawing,

01:59:50.920 but they're open to being there, let them absorb it through osmosis. Like, I think a lot of the

01:59:59.860 time we think we have to win an argument or win a struggle, where a lot of the time

02:00:08.220 that activates a resistance that wouldn't otherwise be there.

02:00:14.660 If your family member likes the idea of the AFA, that's great.

02:00:20.100 Cool.

02:00:20.480 We like the AFA.

02:00:21.440 You should really come to, you should come to Midsommar at the Hoff.

02:00:26.300 All right.

02:00:27.060 Well, but what if I, you know, I just think kind of there's one God.

02:00:30.720 Well, I think there's lots of gods and you should come check it out and just have an

02:00:34.800 open mind.

02:00:35.360 all of those are really good things the more you put pressure though the more there's a resistance

02:00:41.220 or I don't know about that or a struggle and again you know your your family member better than I do

02:00:48.040 as best you can avoid argument avoid strife on it and don't you know don't roll over if they

02:00:56.580 make assertions that are wrong stand up for yourself but if they're not fighting you don't

02:01:01.480 need to intellectually win an argument. You need to facilitate them having an openness of mind and

02:01:08.400 an openness of heart and get them in the presence of something to where the gods can interact with

02:01:15.200 them in a beneficial way. If they come to the Hoff, if they're around when you're doing bloat,

02:01:21.300 if they're there for things, stuff happens. And you also need to have faith. There's more things

02:01:26.660 involved it's not just you and your loved one like what can you do to convince them

02:01:32.900 a lot of the time and trent and i know this being gothar um there's stuff you can do

02:01:41.140 but a lot of it is on facilitating a situation where the gods can act

02:01:50.220 And there was a funeral I was asked to do, and I guess this couple was kind of a biker couple, and the man who passed was an Odinist,

02:02:12.220 but he wasn't part of anything organized, but he had said that he wanted to have an Odinist funeral.

02:02:21.740 And so his son reached out to the AFA in general and was looking for somebody who would be willing to conduct this published funeral.

02:02:31.100 And he was in Elko, Nevada, and I was in Reno at the time.

02:02:37.720 And so, you know, it's a little late, but I was really honored to get the opportunity.

02:02:42.200 And, you know, so I went over and I did that.

02:02:45.940 And it was a really interesting experience.

02:02:48.420 So, this man's widow was there and she, you know, she had a whole bunch of Jesus jewelry on.

02:03:00.760 Again, being a biker couple, they had, you know, those folks like the jewelry.

02:03:05.700 and i think that's kind of cool but she had a whole bunch of like crucifixes and things and

02:03:10.900 um i don't think the family at the time was was also true but this man was and so i did his his

02:03:20.340 funeral and it was in the funeral home it wasn't you know at a hof or out at a particularly

02:03:26.820 house true friendly location it was in kind of the non-denominational chapel of the funeral home

02:03:32.100 Um, and people weren't real familiar with what to do and how to do stuff.

02:03:40.380 And, you know, I don't think I did anything special or my amazing goofy miss did stuff,

02:03:47.220 but I did the best I could.

02:03:50.280 And I, um, you know, invoked the all father to bear witness and to care for this man's

02:03:56.840 soul as he, he went on his journey to land his ancestors.

02:03:59.760 and you know i i was very honored to be called to do that and i did you know i did my best and

02:04:10.680 i feel like i did you know i did him honor but something really special happened the uh

02:04:18.400 the widow she was visibly very very shaken and she left the funeral you know as soon as

02:04:28.880 it was time and um dinner celebrating celebrating and he had a funeral meal afterwards that i was

02:04:38.000 invited to the family was very gracious they had me at the family's table um at this dinner

02:04:42.960 apparently the widow had gone home and like locked herself in her room for a while

02:04:48.480 and when she came out she had taken off all of her jesus stuff and she said that she'd never

02:04:57.100 felt anything like that before but when i invited the all father to to be there when i invoked

02:05:02.540 odin to bear witness and be part of the funeral like she felt the presence in the room and

02:05:11.660 it's not anything i did i helped i helped facilitate that in some way

02:05:17.660 but i wasn't arguing with somebody about the gods or about the nature of divinity she was in the

02:05:24.460 right place and was there to just have an open mind and an open heart and feel what happened

02:05:33.360 and it did wonders so i've seen that happen in a bunch of different ways that was probably the

02:05:38.020 most like profound way i've seen that happen but i've seen that a number of times so i would say

02:05:45.400 invite your loved ones to participate and to join to even to observe just come along and check it

02:05:53.720 out and see what you think and you know move them forward that way what you said is kind of a pretext

02:06:00.120 for it is already awesome that's already good progress so don't i wouldn't force the issue

02:06:05.160 and i would just facilitate getting them in the space in a circumstance where

02:06:12.520 they're present for spiritual for transcendent things to happen

02:06:17.320 um but yeah that's what i have on that one where we at sorry there's some kind of chaos in my house

02:06:29.580 appreciate that apparently they're okay um

02:06:34.760 sorry i'm sorting back to the stuff all right um what would you say to someone who is

02:06:46.980 a homosexual, but believes in the ICER and wants to join the AFA. Do you think homosexuality can

02:06:53.880 be overcome in quotation marks or that an AFA member can not act on it and that be okay?

02:07:04.220 Trent, what are your thoughts on this? Let me pull that one up here real quick so I can answer

02:07:11.340 because it had multiple parts. Okay. What would you say to someone who was homosexual,

02:07:15.800 but believes in the ICR and wants to join the AFA.

02:07:18.480 No.

02:07:20.400 I'd be more polite about it than that if they're being polite, of course.

02:07:23.680 But no, it's not happening. 0.90

02:07:27.200 The reason for that is we have women and children.

02:07:31.460 And unfortunately, that subset of the population is, you know, 0.99

02:07:37.600 they kind of reproduce, so to speak,

02:07:40.520 by kind of sharing the trauma that put them in that position. 0.91

02:07:45.800 uh and it's yeah no uh do you think homosexuality can be overcome

02:07:51.560 if you're actually homosexual no um nowadays a lot of mostly women i'm sure it happens to

02:08:01.040 men as well but more often than not this happens to women and this will kind of

02:08:07.460 lead to the answer to the next question as well but 0.94

02:08:10.020 actual homosexuality cannot be overcome no um there are women occasionally that'll 0.91

02:08:16.820 kind of flirt with the idea of being a lesbian or bisexual or whatever because they have bad

02:08:20.740 experiences with men and whatnot and for those women that thought they were homosexual just

02:08:29.660 used it as an edgy personality trait or whatever then kind of come to the the truth and realize no

02:08:37.400 they're not um we're willing to talk about that with them and let them be members depending on 0.81

02:08:44.540 things uh if an af member cannot act on it and that'd be okay no if you are homosexual and you

02:08:52.280 just don't act on it no it if you're homosexual you've acted on it right and uh we've talked

02:09:00.860 about it before the ulterior gothi will surely explain it better than i can at the moment but 0.98

02:09:06.020 But we do have a double standard for that, kind of as I mentioned. So for a man to be homosexual, and I won't get graphic, but for you to copulate, right, in that scenario, you are, it's like cut and dry, you're gay. 0.97

02:09:25.960 You have, you know, soiled yourself in that regard, right? 0.98

02:09:33.100 You've kind of stained your soul or whatever, however you want to word it.

02:09:39.180 And it's a physical thing that happens, right?

02:09:44.600 All right, calm down, Shuckles.

02:09:46.260 I'm wrapping up. 1.00

02:09:48.060 For women, the physicality isn't quite there. 1.00

02:09:52.300 i'll share i go with you go ahead and use your better words to explain it in a less silly way

02:10:00.940 save yourself in that regard it just hasn't chuckled so um no but yeah what trend said so 0.74

02:10:12.060 first i don't believe in homosexuality that's not a thing mental illness is a thing and that

02:10:18.700 is a way mental illness displays itself but it's not like a yeah the differentiation between

02:10:31.980 gay men and lesbians is a really important one here women who experiment with stuff with

02:10:39.660 other women you can't actively be doing that and be a member of the afa but

02:10:45.580 but women go through phases and do stuff 0.99

02:10:49.060 and it's just different, it is. 0.96

02:10:51.400 So, yeah, I think women can overcome 0.99

02:10:54.760 whatever dysfunction led them to experiment with that 1.00

02:11:00.180 at some point in their life.

02:11:02.540 Men, it's a real different story.

02:11:04.040 And I want to specify because I think it's really important.

02:11:06.980 So a lot of the hard line we have on male homosexuality 0.83

02:11:12.400 is what trent said is the gay vampirism that spreads that mental illness that trauma 0.83

02:11:23.360 i mean i don't think i can say that a hundred percent of gay men became that way because they 0.90

02:11:29.440 were abused but a very very significant percentage everyone i've gotten close enough

02:11:38.400 in my life that i've known in a way that they would divulge that that's been an aspect of it

02:11:45.600 and it is an overwhelming danger to our children because of a couple of things um

02:11:53.840 but that said and the implications of that if you voluntarily as an adult choose to engage

02:12:04.240 and homosexual acts then yeah you're you've crossed a line that you can't uncross and you

02:12:10.880 are now gay and as such you can't be a member of the astro folks um but i do want to specify if you 0.99

02:12:19.200 are if you have been abused and you are the victim of you know somebody has raped you 0.98

02:12:27.920 we're not saying that that makes you gay and irredeemable that's not of your choosing i 0.96

02:12:33.200 I understand the difference there. 0.96

02:12:35.480 So when I say that, you know, you cross some lines you can't uncross,

02:12:38.780 I'm not saying that if you've been traumatized as a child or something,

02:12:43.080 I'm not putting that on you.

02:12:44.940 Please don't feel that way.

02:12:46.920 But if as a grown man you have chosen to engage in that behavior

02:12:51.540 and something is broken in you mentally,

02:12:56.700 that you've chosen to cross that line, 0.60

02:13:00.340 and the ones that you have, you are now a danger to our kids. 0.99

02:13:09.120 And I don't think that every gay dude molests kids. 1.00

02:13:15.020 Certainly they don't. 0.99

02:13:17.280 But I think a shockingly higher percentage than the norm,

02:13:21.180 and I think in the cases where it happens,

02:13:24.160 it is directly related to that particular mental illness. 1.00

02:13:28.200 and as such we can't have that around our kids it's not acceptable do i think you could be gay 0.51

02:13:37.000 and just not act on it sure there are you know heterosexuals that never have sex that that 0.99

02:13:46.880 happens but that is an unacceptable risk to our children and we can't have that around 0.73

02:13:55.780 Um, you know, if you're a homosexual and you believe in the Iser, what should you do? 1.00

02:14:04.340 I don't know what to tell you. 0.99

02:14:07.180 I mean, if you want to have some kind of private devotional practice that's between you and the gods,

02:14:13.860 that's outside of my purview, but I, as a protector of our faith, of our church,

02:14:22.460 the AstroFolk Assembly and of the families in it can't allow that to go on within the AstroFolk

02:14:29.820 Assembly. But I get it and every now and again we have folks reach out and want to be a member

02:14:36.140 and they'll insist you know they're they're one of the good ones and they probably are they're

02:14:40.460 probably very nice people in a lot of ways but that particular mental illness is just not an

02:14:47.660 acceptable thing to inject amongst the company of our families.

02:14:57.320 Trent, what's the AFA's opinion on personal practice of traditional witchcraft?

02:15:07.080 Since we don't do anything that we necessarily call witchcraft, it's hard for me to give like a

02:15:11.860 short answer uh two types of magic i would i would say that we have our uh rune magic and

02:15:21.760 then satyr which can include rune magic of course but we don't discourage anyone from

02:15:32.280 safely learning about and using the runes for uh things like augury or whatever else

02:15:38.260 um say there is of course for women specifically and plenty of our githyr if not all of them have

02:15:47.780 dabbled in it to some degree i would think and some of them have a better you know better

02:15:53.020 understanding than the others um our position on it is that it's you know not a mainstream part of

02:16:02.500 Alcatru, but along with Alcatru, it is to an extent our birthright. The runes are ours. Say

02:16:09.560 there is, well, our women's, but it belongs to white women specifically. So the AFA stance on it

02:16:18.760 is if you are a regular member asking how to do those things, I would ask a Gothi or Githia

02:16:29.720 about rune magic and then agithya specifically about satyr and they can help you get they can

02:16:37.840 either help you directly or help you find the resources to do that safely and do it well and

02:16:43.120 do it with the right intent and all of that so if that's what you mean by traditional witchcraft

02:16:50.700 then that's the opinion but yeah unless there's a better definition what traditional witchcraft

02:16:59.360 is if you mean like hexes and whatnot i'm not super knowledgeable on that uh yeah ask ask

02:17:07.760 the githier that's kind of the final answer there

02:17:20.000 you're muted

02:17:20.560 appreciate that good looking out so

02:17:28.240 details really matter and it's so i got caught on this two weeks ago there was a question about

02:17:38.960 uh the international sanatana dharma society and stuff and i'm like um sure i guess

02:17:49.440 the AFA, like somebody could have some kind of cross membership if it's a philosophical thing

02:17:56.480 and it's not like you have to be a Hindu or whatever. When we get stretched beyond what's

02:18:01.920 an actual louse true practice, we run into things where we don't have the maximum expertise of the

02:18:09.620 lingo. And there it was over what exactly Dharma entails. Apparently, Acharya has a different

02:18:18.580 definition and the guy who i was talking to and i had to go to like consult etymology and whatever

02:18:24.420 else so i this is a big caveat of i'm not an expert on witchcraft or what counts and what doesn't

02:18:33.220 um also true is itself witchcraft if you're talking about you know a medieval definition um

02:18:40.260 um if you're talking like Trent mentioned about um Gawler or uh save work or things like that

02:18:51.180 your that's a tool it is an acceptable tool to make use of whether you you know the the

02:18:59.160 acceptability or not isn't what you use it for and there's irresponsible uses and responsible uses

02:19:05.160 And I would say that extends to what I understand as traditional witchcraft.

02:19:10.720 Now, if you were talking about some kind of Gerald Gardner definition in, like, Wicca,

02:19:16.920 I don't claim to be an expert on all of those things and all of the circumstances.

02:19:21.320 I will say there are and have been plenty of reputable members of the House True Folk Assembly

02:19:28.380 who have done magical workings beyond Norse-attested magical practice

02:19:38.000 with hexes, with knot bindings, with things that way.

02:19:44.480 We don't have some kind of a fatwa on that.

02:19:49.360 A lot of that has efficacy.

02:19:52.080 But again, I don't want to overextend myself on something I'm not an expert on.

02:19:55.820 But I would say in general, it's not a problem if you practice some kind of, some form of traditional witchcraft within an altitude context as an AFA member.

02:20:08.240 But again, with that, please make sure you recognize the asterisks there.

02:20:12.920 I'm not an expert on that, but the areas that I am familiar with, that's okay.

02:20:20.560 Trent, what is your favorite Mjolnir design?

02:20:26.340 I've not been looking forward to this one. I don't have one. I think they're all cool.

02:20:32.720 Every few years I'll try and pick out a new builder and I have a hard time picking because

02:20:39.280 they're just all, well, not literally all of them. There are some pretty like over the top,

02:20:45.160 really garish ones, but for the most part, they're all really cool. The one I'm wearing now,

02:20:50.280 I'm not going to hold it super close to the camera or anything, but it's recommended to me

02:20:55.080 by a member of it, Freyshoff, one of the helpers there.

02:21:01.060 And it's got like this, not based on a real petroglyph, I don't think,

02:21:06.940 but it's kind of a petroglyph style of Thor and his chariot,

02:21:10.100 and it's got the sunwheel above it, and it's pretty cool.

02:21:16.300 The one, the All's Hairy Goathe's wearing there is a fairly common one. 1.00

02:21:19.400 I have a similar one in bronze that I wear when I'm not wearing a suit. 1.00

02:21:24.240 is kind of like my daily one like right now i have it under my undershirt for example um

02:21:30.000 any of literally any of the historical finds i just uh i'm a huge sucker for that i'm in love

02:21:36.800 with all of them honestly uh as far as has the afa thought about having an official mule redesign

02:21:43.120 i know there's been a couple times that uh you know in our 31 32 years that we'll have someone

02:21:50.560 and kind of step up to that and think they can handle that and kind of be like, Hey, I have this

02:21:54.940 idea, you know, we can mass produce these. And like I said, I'm a sucker for any non over the 1.00

02:22:01.100 top design. They've always been cool designs. Uh, and you know, they'll try to kind of get that

02:22:06.620 going and it'll sort of fall by the wayside after a while. Uh, I don't think any of us would

02:22:15.460 be against an official

02:22:18.140 AFA Mjolnir design, but it wouldn't

02:22:20.580 be this exclusivity

02:22:22.420 thing where you can only wear

02:22:24.460 that. That's silly, you know.

02:22:26.760 But, no, I 0.68

02:22:28.460 imagine it was kind of like the AFA Tartan,

02:22:30.540 which we have

02:22:31.180 some sort of

02:22:34.580 Mjolnir with like the AFA Bind Rune

02:22:36.360 on it or the Rhytho from the

02:22:38.020 Free Assembly Days or something.

02:22:40.300 That'd be really neat. We're not against it.

02:22:45.460 yeah we've talked about it a number of times like a specific afa hammer and again not like

02:22:51.520 any other hammers unacceptable but like having an official one um would be cool i thought about it

02:22:59.980 the trouble so far has been supply and having a consistent jeweler that was going to make them

02:23:06.360 having them available on the site

02:23:08.200 it's like to do it right the ones people would want would be like silver and to get silver ones

02:23:17.280 we wouldn't want to stock a whole bunch of ones that are a little bit pricier so it's also a

02:23:23.680 little bit different setting up a way to do custom order ones but it's something that we've certainly

02:23:28.880 thought about as far as designs there's lots of cool ones i can't really think of

02:23:37.680 ones that i okay so

02:23:41.760 and here's where i get stuck on my linguistics like i don't remember the name of that there's a

02:23:49.360 there's like a real fat one it's like short and super fat and it's got like a beak motif it's got

02:23:55.920 like two eyes and kind of a beat thing i don't like that one because it doesn't look much like

02:24:02.160 a hammer to me um but again i don't hate it um it's just not my my cup of tea i like the one

02:24:10.080 that i'm wearing it's should be better than this should know how to um i should know where the fine

02:24:22.320 this was, because it gets asked enough. All right, cool. Yay. Hopefully, let's get me

02:24:34.900 close. I'm looking at the thing right now. It is, ah, so I see a picture, but the quick

02:24:42.920 AI thing doesn't tell me the name of this hammer or where it's found, and I wish that

02:24:46.920 it won't won't all right so maybe i can find it here and it'll tell me but the one that i have

02:24:53.640 one of the reasons i like it so much is it is the same design as the very first one that i got um

02:25:04.760 yeah it was uh it's from austra gottland i guess and it is the the otis hog real here

02:25:12.840 so it's first one i got was at um the museum store in the mall way back when like 2001

02:25:23.600 and it was a like a brass version of this one but yeah i kind of like this design it's what i've

02:25:30.480 worn most often i guess it's my favorite um but like i said there's lots of different cool ones

02:25:37.760 that are ancient from archaeological digs,

02:25:39.760 but there's also really cool modern ones.

02:25:44.320 We've got a member out in California

02:25:46.040 that makes some really cool ones for people.

02:25:50.080 So yeah, but my preference tends to be this one.

02:25:53.120 This is the design that I have worn most often

02:25:56.360 in my time as a mouse truer.

02:26:00.380 Our next question, truth is virtue.

02:26:04.020 Does this mean that it is immoral

02:26:05.960 to plead to a lesser charge if in doing so you have to admit slash swear to have done something

02:26:13.320 you did in fact not do. Trent, what are your initial thoughts on that?

02:26:26.960 Trent is muted. Go.

02:26:29.080 expecting my bad i was waiting to catch uh i was here to go through muted because he does it at

02:26:35.960 least once an episode and then i did it shame shame shame let's see was it the one about uh

02:26:42.760 truth being a virtue nick

02:26:44.120 no the 112 after that yes sir it's the one about truth being a virtue

02:26:51.520 okay yeah this is a tough one i was reading this one earlier and kind of thinking about it

02:26:58.720 um does it mean that it's immoral to plead to a lesser charge if in doing so you have to admit

02:27:05.240 swear to have done something you did in fact not do i would say no um maybe depending on if it's

02:27:15.260 saving someone else's skin that did something really bad but just on the basis of

02:27:21.820 having a way out

02:27:26.260 yeah that's tough i

02:27:29.880 there's an element to it of you know our gods and the all-father especially value uh

02:27:41.080 not only wisdom and intelligence but also cleverness right and that's seen all throughout

02:27:46.860 the stories and there is a a cleverness to being able to kind of navigate a situation

02:27:56.780 no matter the hand you're dealt and kind of find the best option there for yourself

02:28:05.500 uh of course there's all kinds of caveats with this specific like legal stuff

02:28:12.340 If you've the noble thing to do, if you've committed a crime is, of course, make up for that crime, depending on what it is and how you go about making that up.

02:28:27.660 if it can be made up um yeah it would it would depend on it's a case by case basis thing i would

02:28:43.780 say uh so yeah i would i would just say it's the cleverness involved in being able to make a better

02:28:53.660 deal for yourself even if you have to admit to something you did in fact not do is certainly

02:29:00.620 there but there is definitely an immorality in some of those scenarios if it you know you're

02:29:07.740 avoiding paying for a crime that you did in fact commit uh what do you think sir

02:29:14.140 i think it is grossly immoral that our legal system is structured to

02:29:20.140 knowingly force people to lie about stuff it is common practice for police and district

02:29:30.860 attorneys to over to over like over arrest and then overcharge in order to force you

02:29:40.700 to take a lesser charge that you will be 100 convicted of rather than fight a bigger charge

02:29:47.020 that's immoral than having things like the alfred plea where you've got to like

02:29:55.020 i'm guilty i'm telling you i'm guilty because i have to tell you i'm guilty but you and i know

02:29:59.740 i'm not guilty so you're letting me go but i'm going to officially admit that i'm guilty so

02:30:03.820 that you'll let me go all of that is dishonest anymore but it do so here comes and it's funny

02:30:13.260 I was talking to Chris Savage today

02:30:17.420 about this very thing

02:30:18.840 and a particular person's circumstance.

02:30:27.780 The challenge is to find the best

02:30:31.540 and most noble course of action

02:30:33.920 in a world with conflicting things.

02:30:39.020 In heroic literature,

02:30:41.620 it is often very easy because things are very clear cut and heroes are always perfect and

02:30:48.520 immaculate in their way of navigating it. Life doesn't work that way in the world that we live

02:30:55.560 in. Very often we are put in circumstances where there are conflicting moral judgments to be made.

02:31:03.820 I think this is one of them, but one thing that is important is fame and reputation.

02:31:13.520 There are things you can plea to that aren't really going to affect your fame and your

02:31:19.820 reputation, and then there are things that you will plea to that will forever destroy

02:31:25.060 your reputation.

02:31:28.460 Be careful when doing that.

02:31:30.420 There are a lot of people that plea to sexual offenses with an understanding that something will be expunged or that, you know, somehow they'll get out of being registered or whatever, and then they'll get out and somebody will find out and they'll say,

02:31:55.000 No, but I only did that because my lawyer told me to or whatever.

02:31:59.560 The rest of what society has to judge you on is no, under oath and in front of people.

02:32:05.460 You said you were guilty of doing X, Y, and Z.

02:32:10.400 I'm going to believe you did X, Y, and Z because you said you did.

02:32:15.080 And so you're forever going to be known as that guy.

02:32:19.180 If you're like, hey, I got to fight with this guy.

02:32:22.540 It wasn't my fault. It was self-defense. It was whatever, but they were going to prosecute me on something, you know, felony assault or attempted murder or something. But they said that if I pled to disorderly conduct, I'd get off. I think that's a reasonable thing to consider.

02:32:39.520 but

02:32:41.360 you know

02:32:43.700 hey I'll admit that I'm 0.97

02:32:45.660 a rapist or something 0.96

02:32:47.120 in the hopes that 0.97

02:32:48.800 I get some kind of deal

02:32:51.600 that way no forever you're going to be

02:32:53.580 known as that

02:32:54.240 and in that circumstance you're better off

02:32:57.560 fighting it and being convicted

02:32:59.480 of it but having a clear record of you

02:33:01.460 fought it the entire time you've never

02:33:03.440 once accepted that you're guilty of it

02:33:05.520 then well I know

02:33:07.700 but my lawyer said so i said that i was don't do that because the rest of us have to go on what

02:33:15.060 we know and when you've sworn that you did something it's real hard to commit somebody

02:33:20.100 you didn't do it um but that's the thing it's way harder than it seems and it is done this

02:33:28.500 way intentionally it's terrifying if you're looking at a list of charges that you're going

02:33:33.380 to spend the rest of your life in jail or you can just admit you did this lesser thing and get out

02:33:40.740 i wouldn't put that weight on somebody it is less than the perfect thing to do certainly

02:33:47.220 but you have to navigate the situation you find yourself in and try to carve out within it

02:33:52.580 the best and most honorable path you can choose within reason

02:33:58.420 not getting to spend the rest of your life with your family and raising your children and

02:34:02.500 And doing all the other things you have commitments to do because you avoided pleading to drunken disorderly when you don't think you were that disorderly is, it's worth considering.

02:34:16.300 So I don't think it's a standalone never do that, but it's certainly something you need to give very serious thought to and what it does to your reputation.

02:34:24.820 also fun fact listening to vns while you drive through rush hour reduces your road rage i'm glad

02:34:36.860 you find that it does that i'll prescribe it to any of you out there who are driving

02:34:41.240 listen to vns it's always a good choice

02:34:43.540 question victory is a virtue and cowardice is immoral how then do we fall back from losing

02:34:53.480 propositions when are we allowed to say this isn't working i'm out when does it become cowardice

02:35:03.000 uh cool question again it's kind of a case by case basis of course uh you were correct victory

02:35:10.040 is a virtue and that cowardice is immoral there's a certain point where if a battle is truly a

02:35:16.120 losing battle and the victory would be to make it out alive rather than be on some kind of suicide

02:35:24.580 mission then you know you kind of have to ask yourself is it cowardice to save my life and

02:35:31.340 live to fight another day so to speak rather than you know go out in this blaze of glory but all is

02:35:39.300 lost and whatever else happens in this hypothetical battle scenario i'm throwing at you

02:35:45.660 uh when are we allowed to say this isn't working i'm out depends on what it is uh

02:35:52.240 and it depends on if it really isn't working and if it won't work

02:35:56.400 it becomes cowardice though when there is a chance and you're just letting fear

02:36:04.980 and only fear not even rational fear but fear rule your decision making process when you let

02:36:11.840 uh fear or other kind of base instinct things rule your decision making that's when it's cowardice

02:36:23.120 rather than thinking calmly and strategically and in accordance with right action 0.86

02:36:30.800 So, I think that it's important to understand that we have this rigidity built into us from a Christian, Jewish, Ten Commandments kind of thing.

02:36:57.100 And our faith isn't like that, and things are a bit more nuanced.

02:37:04.980 Cowardice has never been defined as being afraid of something

02:37:09.880 or choosing not to engage in an overwhelmingly losing proposition

02:37:17.040 and choosing to fight a better day.

02:37:19.960 what has been understood

02:37:23.720 is when you are ruled by your fear

02:37:27.320 and your fear prevents you from taking chances

02:37:30.100 or from fulfilling your duties and your obligations.

02:37:35.800 And it's characterized by a level of emotional thinking

02:37:40.740 and irrationality.

02:37:43.000 Like, even in extreme cases,

02:37:45.900 and I forget what the exact thing was

02:37:48.200 with the Jonsvikinger,

02:37:49.960 But in the Saga of the Arms Vikings, they were known for their excessive courage that was marked, and their code was, it was something overwhelming, but it was like never to retreat unless there was 10 to 1 or something.

02:38:11.320 But even in an extreme case, they acknowledge, like, no, you can retreat because it's dumb to get your entire force wiped out for no reason, but you can't retreat unless it's overwhelming or unless it's, you know, a tactically sound thing.

02:38:28.960 I don't think in our reality we find that a lot.

02:38:34.120 And again, some of our servicemen and women do find that.

02:38:37.080 Some people in, I guess, riot situations might find that.

02:38:43.000 But in general, in personal stuff, it's not cowardly to walk away from something that's not working.

02:38:53.600 If the reason that you are doing it is honestly a tactical assessment of, all right, this isn't working, I need to try something different.

02:39:02.000 if you allow fear to paralyze you that is cowardice if you need to choose something else to be

02:39:11.920 victorious at succumbing to the sunk cost fallacy isn't courage it is delusion and it's irresponsible

02:39:24.700 if you keep trying at something and you keep trying just to overcome losses that you keep

02:39:31.180 taken, being reasonable and realizing that this is not productive, packing it up and trying something

02:39:39.600 that is productive is not cowardice if it's done with a tactically sound reason. But here's the

02:39:46.760 thing. The second you say that that's okay, then all the cowards, aha, see, I'm not a coward, 0.96

02:39:55.020 and they flee from the slightest danger of anything.

02:40:00.300 The fact that you're asking the question is good.

02:40:04.880 Yes, you should tend towards an excess of courage

02:40:08.580 as opposed to an excess of cowardice.

02:40:12.380 All things being equal, if you're like,

02:40:14.220 man, the courageous path is I should go do this thing.

02:40:18.040 But man, if I go do this thing that I want to do,

02:40:20.640 everybody's going to call me a coward.

02:40:22.600 There's probably good reason

02:40:23.820 that they're going to call you a coward if that's which thing so yeah i would reserve that to where

02:40:29.420 it is a tactical judgment and not a fear-based response i think letting your fear override

02:40:38.060 your tactical brain is what defines cowardice or like for example

02:40:45.180 Well, all of us have times in our life that we've lied about something, be it a white lie, being it something bigger, being it whatever.

02:40:58.700 But for somebody to be defined as a liar, lying has to be their customary behavior or they have to have lied in a very significant way.

02:41:10.500 Something's really similar with cowardice and courage.

02:41:14.240 there are all times that people get scared and people like man i was gonna go do this thing but

02:41:19.960 i didn't know i i chickened out that doesn't like that's not good but we all do that

02:41:28.840 making that your defining characteristic because that's what you always do or that's what you do

02:41:35.040 when mistakes are heavy or that's what you do when people are counting on you

02:41:38.460 that magnifies it to where it becomes a defining characteristic and that's much harder to 0.99

02:41:44.380 unburden yourself of anybody's been like man i should go talk to that shit 1.00

02:41:50.100 she's too hot she'll probably shoot me down i should have done it that doesn't make you a coward 0.99

02:41:55.240 but if you always do that then yeah and if you you do that where it really matters and things

02:42:03.600 of significance than absolute and it seems subtle and whatever but that's the challenge I was talking

02:42:09.260 about I think it was when I was on the show with Alan a couple of weeks ago but 0.86

02:42:13.400 we don't there is obviously there's obviously black there's obviously white but there's a lot

02:42:23.340 of gray area in the middle that we deal with and a challenge of being an Aryan man or an Aryan woman

02:42:28.480 is being the adult and being able to make discriminating choices between imperfect outcomes.

02:42:37.120 And this question really goes to that.

02:42:39.140 So you do have to balance what makes sense versus what is just easier to be scared and run.

02:42:49.540 um so

02:42:58.020 i'm gonna all right trent do you have any thoughts on the military dropping the number of religious 0.78

02:43:08.240 classifications from 211 down to 31 specifically the 31 that exclude us uh yeah it's the gayest 0.94

02:43:18.720 thing i've seen the army do or the military excuse me uh in a year of lots of gay stuff 0.87

02:43:24.800 from our military now uh on a more serious level it's you know i don't mean to sound like a christian

02:43:32.240 and claim everything is oppressing us or whatever else but you know uh our founder and others worked

02:43:39.360 really hard to get alsatru recognized um and this you know this comes at a time when we're

02:43:48.720 I don't know how political I'm allowed to get, but I'm just going to go for it as comes at a time where we're really trying to tie ourselves closer to Israel. 0.92

02:43:56.840 And so the religions where you bow to their gods, such as Christianity and even Islam, by the way, which we act like is the worst thing ever, those are allowed. 0.79

02:44:10.120 but uh anything that honors white people's native faiths specifically no matter how you word it 0.92

02:44:17.180 by the way is not allowed uh so yeah my thoughts are that's really gay it's really lame and i'm 0.93

02:44:25.520 hoping we can go ahead and start kind of getting some folks together maybe some 1.00

02:44:30.580 veterans uh in our among our go tharan folk builders to look into restoring that i'm sure

02:44:36.520 that'll be an uphill battle with this current administration but that's my

02:44:41.840 thoughts on that so I got a couple of thoughts like I get reducing frivolous

02:44:58.700 things that find their way on the list and this is something sort of something

02:45:02.120 has always come up a little bit of background i guess in we get over years we have gotten all

02:45:12.600 these different little requests to certify people's absurd things the most common is

02:45:19.080 can you say it's religiously necessary that i have a beard so that i don't have to cut my beard

02:45:24.040 because i'm supposed to in the army no we have never certified that because it's not and that's

02:45:31.800 frivolous when people have really frivolous things it makes the serious things seem dumb 0.77

02:45:41.400 and like more frivolous nonsense so the beardos have done a lot to mess up things for us another 0.82

02:45:50.760 thing when you have that list there's a number of things on there that people don't take very

02:45:59.560 seriously even the ones that have requested them when you have every special snowflake have absurd

02:46:08.680 things that they have there and i don't know again i'd have to comb through the 211 things on the 0.97

02:46:15.560 list but when you group stupid things that atheists do to poke fun at religion on the 0.69

02:46:23.560 same list that you have sincerely held faiths it's very hard for someone who doesn't have um 0.98

02:46:32.600 the inside scoop on those things to separate out one from another

02:46:38.360 yes i it is it is horrible that also true is no longer on that list

02:46:45.960 i sincerely hope that we can get it back on that list at some point

02:46:50.520 what would help for that to be a serious situation is if we didn't have alsatru and troth and heathen

02:47:03.240 and foreign saver and this and that and whatever the flavor of the week thing to call it is

02:47:10.560 and odinism and botanism and this and that and this if all of those people got together

02:47:18.160 as members of the afa and this is part of point two that we talked about tonight with

02:47:23.340 the building the immortal eternal religion of aussitrew if we just all chose aussitrew on there

02:47:30.640 instead of our own special snowflake thing well what is this cool go to the aussitrew folk assembly

02:47:38.540 this is our church it's organized it's structured we can provide a comprehensive definition of who

02:47:44.320 are and what we believe i'm not saying in this case it would do anything or not but it is helpful

02:47:50.880 when dealing with institutions i've learned that when dealing with military situations with

02:47:56.960 members i've learned that when dealing with the correctional system dealing with people

02:48:02.880 if we're incarcerated or with medical establishments hospitals or anything else

02:48:10.000 when we're all united around one unified term and unified conception of what our faith is

02:48:18.020 that helps and it gives a legitimacy to the things that we do if we had you know i don't

02:48:28.340 know how much those numbers add up but if every troth norse pagan aussitru odinist

02:48:36.520 wokenist foreign savior um theodish if all of those people were in one category

02:48:48.600 i think it would make it much harder to discriminate against that one category of

02:48:56.680 but that's not how it was and hopefully the next time we make the attempt

02:49:01.960 But we can do that all under a unified conception, a unified banner.

02:49:07.120 We become strong and important when we stand united.

02:49:11.240 When we stand fragmented, we sacrifice all of that.

02:49:16.960 And again, there's other things at work. 0.93

02:49:19.460 There is certainly all of the Judaism preference, you know, Abrahamism preference that is clearly on display.

02:49:32.540 But if we were a very significant group that stood united, and if everybody joined up,

02:49:37.760 everybody out there that claims to be this, that is Ausatru, stopped calling themselves something other than Ausatru,

02:49:45.520 and then once more joined the Aussie True Folk Assembly,

02:49:50.920 we would be able to do all of these things much more effectively.

02:49:56.660 And that is the truth.

02:50:02.300 Trent, is veganism unethical?

02:50:09.420 Unethical, no. 0.99

02:50:11.360 Silly, yeah.

02:50:12.380 Uh, uh, I can elaborate a little, I suppose, um, making your diet entirely plant-based doesn't 0.97

02:50:22.860 hurt anybody other than yourself, I would guess. Uh, I don't know all the

02:50:29.700 workarounds for how to get good protein on a vegan diet. I'm sure there are some.

02:50:34.260 um so no it's not unethical uh that's all i got on that one i don't really think about veganism i

02:50:43.380 guess

02:50:43.700 no it's not unethical it's

02:50:57.720 if you're honest about what you do it can be very ethical like what it depends on what

02:51:13.060 you're doing at first no it is never unethical

02:51:15.900 it's ill-advised for optimal performance and nutrition reasons it might be very ethical and

02:51:28.200 very appealing for um you know compassion towards industrially farmed animals or whatever else

02:51:37.200 you can have personal reasons to do it and you know certainly entitled to make that decision

02:51:42.360 and you may have really good reasons to do it but it's like there's no case to be made that

02:51:46.920 it's unethical it's obnoxious if you do it and then you want to be in everybody else's face

02:51:52.520 who doesn't do it i don't know again if that's unethical it's just annoying um but no it's not

02:51:59.640 I'm unethical.

02:52:07.200 Trent, what's your favorite tie knot?

02:52:10.300 And is there an official AFA tie knot?

02:52:14.240 There's no official AFA tie knot.

02:52:18.500 The one knot I know how to tie is,

02:52:21.660 I think the double Windsor, I don't know.

02:52:24.740 Whatever the one you find by searching up YouTube videos

02:52:28.840 on how to tie a tie for beginners.

02:52:32.500 Whatever looks good is pretty much it.

02:52:35.700 No, there's no official AFA tie knot.

02:52:38.600 Neat question, though.

02:52:40.880 Yeah, no, tie your tie however you want.

02:52:42.400 Everybody's got different stuff.

02:52:44.200 Depends on how big your neck is, if you're big, if you're small,

02:52:49.040 what shape your tie is, a lot of different stuff.

02:52:53.600 I like the bigger knots.

02:52:55.180 I grew up, I think, you know, I think I grew up whoever, I can't even really remember who taught me how to tie a tie because I was really young.

02:53:04.380 But I grew up doing like half Windsor or single Windsor or whatever.

02:53:10.440 A double Windsor is what I like.

02:53:12.720 Spawn does some really fancy ones.

02:53:14.600 Trouble is I run out of tie space.

02:53:17.180 I've got a long torso.

02:53:18.760 I've got a big neck.

02:53:20.340 so I run out of room like this tie isn't nearly I'd like because I'm sitting down and it doesn't

02:53:33.000 matter but I'd still like an extra maybe three inches on the tie I have and as it is I can't

02:53:39.040 tuck the little tail end into the back loop of the tie I have to tuck it into my shirt

02:53:45.440 because it's just not long enough i get a little stub that i can work with on the tail end of the

02:53:50.620 tie so kind of depends on how you're shaped like i like spawn isn't as tall as me and he can do

02:53:56.820 you know he does those fancy like i think there's a eldritch one and like a trinity one you know

02:54:04.480 spawn likes the tripartites there's a lot of different stuff you can do it just kind of

02:54:10.120 depends on what fits what you like to do and what kind of mobility you have with your hands

02:54:15.340 Also, I've got this one hand that can't reach my tie because I've got some injuries.

02:54:22.240 So, like, I've got to tie it left-handed.

02:54:24.100 So it just depends what you can do.

02:54:26.360 But the fact that you're wanting to wear ties and contemplate how best to tie them puts you a step above the rest.

02:54:35.300 So that's good. 0.95

02:54:37.420 Vampires are traditionally said to be scared of Christian crosses. 1.00

02:54:40.600 Are vampires also scared of Mjolnirs?

02:54:43.340 Trent. 1.00

02:54:45.340 I'm going to lean towards yes, because our ancestors, our Germanic ancestors specifically wore, you know, Thor's hammer sometimes.

02:54:56.680 So back when everyone was just their native faith or thereabouts, they didn't wear it for the purpose.

02:55:03.980 Most people would say they wear it now to identify themselves as Alcetru. 0.97

02:55:06.920 There was no need. You were a white guy in Germania or greater Germania.

02:55:12.120 you were also true right uh they wore it because it was it's a holy symbol and they felt that it

02:55:19.480 would ward off that it had power and it would ward off um jotnar i suppose for lack of a better word

02:55:27.320 and so if we include vampires kind of in that realm of not jotnar per se but malevolent things 0.73

02:55:37.480 And if they are afraid of a dead Jew on a stick, I would assume they're also afraid of the hammer of literally Thor, son of heaven and earth. Yes.

02:55:48.260 um yeah uh absolutely and i think that it's a it's a fun question and i don't know how serious

02:56:03.760 the person who asked it was or if it's just kind of a fun little question to say but i think it's

02:56:10.260 something really worth uh worth considering and worth considering the mechanism of why

02:56:15.120 So first point to make, Thor's hammer is used in the lore and traditionally as a device

02:56:32.460 to hallow a space, so in a really specific way invoking Thor's hammer symbolically with

02:56:44.760 the image of it or motion of it or the invocation of it to mark out something as holy and sacred

02:56:52.200 and to ward off evil spirits is attested to and as a time-honored thing

02:56:59.640 an invocation to thor on runestones like don't mess with this or may thor curse you

02:57:05.640 or whatever also with depictions of his hammer is i've seen runestones with that on it in person

02:57:12.840 in denmark that's a real thing so sure i think they'd be afraid of mjolnir in the same kind of

02:57:21.400 way the other thing is i think that magical items or talismans are

02:57:34.920 not just important for what they symbolize like a demon or a ghost or a vampire recognizes like

02:57:42.440 oh that's the you know that's that's the crucifix i think there's that but i also think there's the

02:57:50.920 might that you channel through it and that you put in it like the little gold cross that you

02:57:59.640 have around your neck isn't what's scary it's the invocation of you know their jewish god that's

02:58:07.480 scary um my silver hammer i don't think scares them i think also thor scares them and my

02:58:17.800 invoking him as his follower with some kind of authority bestowed from him scares them

02:58:26.120 so i don't i think it is the seriousness and the might in with that something is

02:58:32.840 imbued with that makes it potent against malevolent forces and i also think that there is an inherent

02:58:40.440 recognition of them of the power of db in the spirit world that is channeled through that

02:58:50.680 for matt and trent if every member watching tonight could do just one thing over the next

02:59:05.480 12 months to strengthen the future of our folk what would you want that one thing to be trent

02:59:12.200 bring your family and friends at least one into the afa really sincerely put forth the effort

02:59:21.860 and show how excited you are and how devoted you are to the iser and how much you love being with

02:59:30.220 your folk and coming together to worship your gods of your people and being passionate about it in a

02:59:40.920 way that obliterates that earlier mentioned cynicism in someone and brings them home to the

02:59:47.720 gods easier said than done i know but still

02:59:56.400 it's hard because it's the question sure there are lots of things that i would want them to do

03:00:10.920 Trent's suggestion is really good.

03:00:15.580 I don't think that's easy to beat.

03:00:20.240 One thing on the next one.

03:00:27.240 Okay, I could sit here all night trying to weigh the pros and cons of different things.

03:00:40.400 but i would say

03:00:43.280 so trent's one which i don't dispute is bring friends and family to the hof

03:00:53.020 so that they can participate and see how important it is to you and grow our membership that way

03:00:58.780 absolutely um

03:01:00.980 i don't want to just steal the answer but that's pretty solid

03:01:09.060 there's a couple of thoughts that I have

03:01:11.240 and it goes out of just the one

03:01:12.980 so I'm kind of side-setting my question

03:01:14.860 a couple of things

03:01:15.740 if I could get every member of the AFA

03:01:18.340 to over the next year

03:01:21.160 be

03:01:22.140 actively engaged

03:01:24.400 to attend every

03:01:27.080 every

03:01:29.160 moat or gathering within

03:01:30.900 a day's drive of them

03:01:33.220 and to go to 0.67

03:01:35.240 a Hoff

03:01:35.960 every holy time

03:01:39.040 that would be that would change the game in their lives in their ability and their enthusiasm to

03:01:48.240 participate in Alistair True that would change everything if every member were to go out and

03:01:54.860 bring if they could self-replicate if every member over the next year could get one other person

03:02:01.840 to join the Alistair True Folk Assembly would literally double our membership in the next year

03:02:07.580 that would be fantastic

03:02:09.360 that would be a big game changer

03:02:11.240 if every member of the AFA

03:02:15.620 decided to

03:02:19.200 donate by

03:02:21.000 which is

03:02:22.300 percentage based giving

03:02:24.660 giving a minimum

03:02:26.600 of 1% of their income to the

03:02:29.080 House True Folk Assembly

03:02:30.100 honestly

03:02:32.180 in all of their

03:02:34.000 income

03:02:35.680 1% at least

03:02:37.940 to the AFA over the next year

03:02:39.820 I think we would see

03:02:41.840 a tremendous

03:02:43.100 increase in our ability to accomplish

03:02:45.820 to

03:02:46.500 get new

03:02:49.620 Hoffs to do things

03:02:51.220 that would make a big difference

03:02:53.200 either one of those three things

03:02:55.540 would change the game

03:02:57.260 I'll further

03:02:59.660 specify if we could get every member

03:03:01.540 of the AFA to do something we asked

03:03:03.900 all of them to do it at once just that willingness to do that would change the game so i think all of

03:03:13.400 those things question the dart that slew balder was made of mistletoe does that mean that we

03:03:23.540 should shun mistletoe no because in that story it is relayed that

03:03:33.300 mistletoe was used to kill balder because it was the one being that frig had not asked to

03:03:40.900 pledge not to hurt balder the it says that the reason she did not ask mistletoe is because it

03:03:47.600 was so young and so no we shouldn't it it did not it was not given the chance to swear that oath to

03:03:56.980 not harm balder uh yeah that's all i got on that i don't know if there's a prettier more flowery

03:04:04.200 way of putting it no that's the perfect answer what trent said 100 what trent said

03:04:09.840 do you anticipate a time in the future when we are too widespread for new leadership to directly

03:04:21.120 oath in the presence of y'all's heritage would this be facilitated by speckinger or gothar

03:04:28.380 what are one to two things you would like to see included in the tiershoff mural aside from lord

03:04:36.820 tier himself so i should absolutely read these questions earlier while trent's talking so that

03:04:48.660 i know what's coming because this one makes me think a little bit um trent what are one to two

03:04:57.620 things you would like to see included in the tears off mural aside from tier okay i thought you're

03:05:03.300 you're gonna have me answer the whole thing okay uh i think it would be cool so if you've seen the

03:05:09.020 phrase hoff mural there is uh the you know the bit where his sword is on the ground rather than

03:05:17.640 and it's you know on his person because he uh gave it up to uh get gear there uh and i think it would

03:05:25.860 be neat if Tyr's sword were still on his person in a side scabbard, but he would be missing his

03:05:37.720 hand and it would be the hand that would be used to pull the sword, right? So the scabbard is on

03:05:43.680 his left hand and Lord Tyr is right-handed. He would be missing his right hand, but he would

03:05:47.600 still have his sword in the scabbard visible is kind of what I've always pictured. Another thing

03:05:54.960 is kind of working in an eagle because that's going to be the uh what can feel you of tears

03:06:03.440 off uh that's all i've got on that

03:06:12.880 so to the first part of the question yes i anticipate a time where

03:06:19.040 new leadership will not always be able to oath in my presence

03:06:24.960 that would be awesome that we reach a big enough point where that happens and that makes sense

03:06:31.600 i think it would again go like you mentioned in your in your post it would you know descend by

03:06:39.520 rank to like i don't i think you know a level higher needs to oath in the level lower

03:06:51.120 i think it may be a situation where i specifically empower someone to take oaths at a certain time

03:06:59.300 or a certain place it depends i still want to do my best to make it to these haas as often as i can

03:07:07.440 so that i can do the oath thing it's a personal thing that i don't want to not do like if i had

03:07:15.580 my way i would conduct all of them but i don't

03:07:23.100 that's not the way it has to be for eternity especially as we grow it is going to be

03:07:29.100 great when we get to a point where we're so big that that's unwieldy and i will say um you know

03:07:35.900 when steve was the alzheimer's i both did folk builders as a folk builder coordinator so that's

03:07:41.900 not unprecedented um in the past we've had gothar coordinators that have both been gothar

03:07:49.580 it wouldn't be unheard of um it's just something that i've always done since i've been

03:07:58.860 the ulcerative i'm trying to think uh there may have been a time where um

03:08:03.500 um I think a former uh full builder coordinator of a couple of people in but I'd have to go back

03:08:16.040 and and look at our records on that but yeah I do anticipate that time uh I always want to

03:08:22.040 anticipate times where we have to evolve what we do because our our success and our growth is is

03:08:27.980 overwhelming that's always a good thing to think of two things I want in the mural other than

03:08:33.500 Tear himself.

03:08:49.740 So this is cheating, but I'm going to use it anyway.

03:08:52.640 Anyway, the imagery of Tyr pointing to the world axis, pointing to the North Star, kind

03:09:08.480 of alluded to in the Rune poems, I want that to be on display, but the idea of that is

03:09:16.800 tiershoff the mural will be directly underneath a window panel by which the north star will be

03:09:22.800 visible directly over top of tier so it is related to the mural but i want it to happen by reality

03:09:30.560 and not depicted in the mural um i think it counts i'm gonna claim that it counts um

03:09:38.800 And because Tyr is, I think, one of our eldest gods, there is a sense of gravitas from time.

03:10:01.680 I would like him to look older and well-seasoned that way.

03:10:16.560 I'd also like his armor and armaments to reflect an earlier age of our folk.

03:10:25.320 so

03:10:28.640 I had talked

03:10:31.780 with Spahn about

03:10:33.580 possibly him having

03:10:35.380 less

03:10:37.700 Viking armor and more

03:10:39.540 gothic armor

03:10:40.740 but those are some ideas and some thoughts

03:10:45.620 that I have on the mural and I'm sure

03:10:47.180 I don't

03:10:47.940 I want to think of vague ideas

03:10:51.360 I also don't

03:10:53.320 on the murals want to pin spawn in too much because i want his inspiration to be able to

03:11:02.440 flow in the best way he's done so wonderfully in the murals so far it's a very sacred thing

03:11:09.480 and i don't want to take any of that away from him as the artist the gods have chosen

03:11:13.880 to work through on these murals so i want to make sure that balance is right too

03:11:23.320 all right next question a torque is usually not a complete circle

03:11:33.520 does that mean that it is not acceptable as an oath ring

03:11:37.900 it's not a complete circle

03:11:42.060 Trent what do you think

03:11:44.500 it is unacceptable to call it an oath ring because it's not a ring

03:11:50.060 uh it is acceptable to still make oaths upon that i mean we've had oaths on the afa sworn upon uh

03:11:59.680 relentless the sword of the afa and they the two i'm thinking of have both held up uh you know so

03:12:08.800 it if the torque is sacred then it's not an oath ring because it's not a ring but it isn't

03:12:14.980 a sacred object that you can swear oaths on uh yeah i i just i wouldn't call anything an

03:12:22.980 oath ring if it's not a ring i suppose it is not a circle

03:12:29.420 you are correct so um no i think that it's a perfectly fine thing to swear an oath on

03:12:37.520 if it's sacred um there is a imagery about you know um never ending this with a circle

03:12:51.480 that i think is poignant symbolically but

03:12:57.000 looking at archaeological evidence a lot on different arm rings and things they often were

03:13:09.740 not circles they often had like a class um or even they wrapped around and kind of doubled over

03:13:15.680 on each other but they were very seldom just a ring because it just doesn't work really well

03:13:21.020 on the arm um without some way to fasten it or tighten it but either way you know swearing on

03:13:29.500 an oath ring i think is really important but swearing on a sacred object is important sword

03:13:33.500 oaths are attested to amongst our folk um trent mentioned that you know i've taken oaths or i've

03:13:41.580 had oaths taken on uh relentless um people get really intense so i want to look i want to look

03:13:49.020 strong like holding the sword out but then they want to press really hard with their fingers on

03:13:53.820 it it becomes this like tendon struggle um but i've also um

03:14:07.580 i took my ordination oath

03:14:10.620 on not really i had a torque that i had my mentor brad and i had steve also hold with me while we

03:14:27.900 said words over i was after the actual ceremony so i don't think it was uh the official ordination

03:14:36.060 oath taken on it i have oathed people before when we didn't have something else present we'd

03:14:43.980 forgotten to bring item to oath on i've had people take an oath uh holding my stole um

03:14:56.460 the first oath i took my folk builder oath i was holding on to the original afa banner

03:15:02.540 um so we all took that holding on the afa banner

03:15:07.060 all right so trent what do you think about the internet scholars trying to claim that it is an

03:15:29.300 evil magic form that goes against or oh that say there is an evil magic form that goes against the

03:15:35.680 gods let's say uh i would say the internet scholars being the norm of society uh i'm pretty

03:15:43.060 sure i would say that's silly because it it's just untrue i mean uh you know lady freya i know freya

03:15:53.980 her name means ladies it's like saying lady lady would bear with me lady freya uh she uses

03:16:00.240 say therefore the good of the gods it no it can it be used for evil i'm sure it can

03:16:08.760 uh does it inherently go against the gods no

03:16:12.220 all right um yeah no that they're 0.93

03:16:24.380 i would call them silly geese as i will call my daughter when she says something that is silly

03:16:35.820 Um, I think that, yeah, it's just not, it's not, it's not looked at that way in the ancient 0.71

03:16:56.100 lore um magic is something that always makes people suspicious and increasingly in a christianized

03:17:08.420 time magic becomes extra scary because it goes outside of their god's purview and women are

03:17:18.420 particularly scary and saving magic is women women magic i think there's plenty of beneficial uses

03:17:37.060 for it and i think it is a tool it is a tool that is well attested it is a tool that is

03:17:42.340 is taught by one of our goddesses that is holy.

03:17:48.160 Sure, you can use it for bad things.

03:17:51.320 And man, we see it in the Lord used to do, you know,

03:17:53.940 to hurt people and do harm all the time.

03:17:56.660 Cool, but so are swords.

03:17:58.820 We don't think they're bad.

03:18:01.080 And spears and axes.

03:18:03.580 You can use them to defend your king

03:18:05.820 and to do awesome things and to be a hero. 0.99

03:18:08.260 You can also use them to murder people 1.00

03:18:10.180 and slaughter indiscriminately. 0.64

03:18:12.340 You can use tools for lots of different stuff, but guns don't kill people.

03:18:18.160 People kill people.

03:18:19.880 So, no, say that it is not immoral or bad.

03:18:23.060 It is attested to and practiced by some of our ICer.

03:18:29.240 It's just not.

03:18:35.340 All right.

03:18:36.140 Question.

03:18:36.560 We do bloat in a clockwise fashion.

03:18:39.040 and in the northern hemisphere that's how the sun appears to move when you face north

03:18:44.240 but if you face north in the southern hemisphere it goes counterclockwise does that mean that we

03:18:50.560 shouldn't do bloat counterclockwise if we're in australia or papa new guinea trent let's say

03:18:57.500 i say no because uh australia or papa new guinea i don't know much about papa new guinea but

03:19:04.160 Australia is part of the Anglosphere, and the people there, and I don't want to say indigenous, but the Australians, the actual Australians, are Anglo-Saxon or Celtic or some combination thereof, mostly, largely, right?

03:19:21.760 so they're native to the northern hemisphere and you know our faith is about roots and and home

03:19:30.080 in uh a physical and spiritual more sacred sense so no i would do it the way we would do it in our

03:19:39.660 original homes clockwise and also because our sun wise we call it but yeah also clockwise

03:19:47.180 works because it's kind of that idea of moving forward and upright correct action we don't move

03:19:55.820 backwards we don't move against the grain to be edgy we do the right thing we do the correct thing

03:20:02.280 no matter what hemisphere we're in cool question though

03:20:17.180 So, yeah, what Trent said, it's, it is largely symbolic, and it's aligning ourself with tradition and with order, and it is done with a clear understanding of kind of why we do it, and that it goes along as symbolic.

03:20:47.180 i think that if our people collectively lost all of our lore and you know a thousand years from

03:20:58.060 now white people in australia decided oh well the sun moves this way down here this is how

03:21:03.100 we're going to start doing it i don't think that that would be wrong but it's not our current

03:21:08.620 tradition and the point of that is that we've taken our traditions with us to the areas that

03:21:16.620 we have conquered and colonized and so we do it our way and not the the native way we export us

03:21:25.580 to the places that we go and i think in that sense it's similar to how we celebrate our holidays

03:21:33.340 um yes it is awkward to celebrate midsummer in the middle of winter in australia i get that

03:21:41.420 but i don't and there's been debate about this over the years and sometimes some people do it

03:21:49.700 one way and sometimes people do it a different way they lose track when they celebrate yule down

03:21:56.520 there like well it's all of the symbols are natural and about winter they make it about

03:22:06.700 jesus so they can celebrate it at that time of the year but it's not about

03:22:12.600 it is transcended to where it is about our folk custom and not about aligning ourselves to

03:22:20.700 a biome that we're in it's about aligning ourselves to a tradition and a connectivity

03:22:27.600 with our ancestors and with the original practice of our faith so again i don't think that it is

03:22:34.220 wrong, but I don't think that there's a compelling reason to do so. And I think that, again, it

03:22:41.540 speaks to the fact of where we come from in our heritage and our tradition, not where we find

03:22:47.680 ourselves. But again, I don't think you're gonna, you know, I don't think that you're doing some

03:22:54.160 horrible wrongness by doing it that way, especially if you have a thought out reason to. One of the

03:22:59.800 big things too. Whatever you do, have a reason that you're doing it. I think it is much better

03:23:06.060 to do something incorrectly, but with a clear and coherent thought process of why you're doing it

03:23:13.160 that way than to do something haphazardly where you haven't given thought to it or didn't take

03:23:18.300 it seriously or didn't care about it. So I think that's a good and interesting question. It's not

03:23:23.220 one I had thought about. Next question, are men who practice Sather on a regular basis

03:23:32.700 considered effeminate? Trent? Yeah, I don't know that effeminate fully covers it, but

03:23:39.500 yes, effeminate among other things, I guess. It's essentially a breaking of natural law,

03:23:49.360 right in the same way that being a transvestite would be and yeah i know that's what not what 1.00

03:23:57.940 they prefer to call themselves that's why i use that word before anybody says anything uh 0.98

03:24:03.120 it willingly going beyond the the pale of what is correct and normal and

03:24:14.380 again natural law is bad and effeminate you know i'm going to say no not effeminate because

03:24:23.780 that implies i at least i think a kind of uh genuine femininity maybe

03:24:31.960 so if that connotation is there then no not effeminate because there's nothing genuinely

03:24:38.220 feminine about a man doing female things if a feminine does not have that connotation and it

03:24:44.780 just means and it implies like a fake femininity then yes so depends on what you mean when you say

03:24:59.020 seder and i think that we have i think when we get precise terms it becomes different

03:25:07.900 one of the aspects and i'll put this there

03:25:13.020 there is a receptive aspect of saver where you are inviting

03:25:20.220 other forces to work through you in a mediumistic kind of way

03:25:25.900 that is inherently feminine 0.78

03:25:30.600 magic that men practice is inherently operative and directed and the men are the one inflicting

03:25:42.300 the magic through will not giving over their will and their presence to be

03:25:48.260 this cuts to the meat of what i'm talking about i don't intend i'm not trying to be vulgar but

03:25:55.900 to be penetrated and a receptacle of things in that sense, you know, it's an any-outy

03:26:07.040 kind of situation, and I do think that's a very real connotation to it.

03:26:13.200 For women to be the submissive partner in a safe practice to where the gods or the spirits 0.79

03:26:19.680 I think it's one of the reasons that you would have women who were more often mediums than men in modern spiritualism or anything else. 0.97

03:26:30.600 The way that they connect with divinity is in a very different way.

03:26:34.260 And they have a tendency to channel things or have the spirits ride them, as it was called, or work through them or, you know, take possession of them.

03:26:48.340 I think men doing that

03:26:50.500 is inherently looked at as feminine

03:26:52.460 and as you being

03:26:53.800 the catcher and not the pitcher

03:26:56.200 and I think that's

03:26:58.780 I mean I think that imagery

03:27:00.500 though it becomes

03:27:02.680 silly and vulgar I don't mean it that way but I think

03:27:04.720 that that is inherent in the concept 0.94

03:27:06.620 and that's one of the reasons that it

03:27:08.680 was looked at as

03:27:10.600 kind of an air-day practice

03:27:12.320 should we return to patronomy instead of using surveys Trent I'm not sure who chose to type

03:27:34.340 return in all caps with the v instead of the u if that was nick or the original

03:27:39.060 question asker but you know good job on that that's pretty funny plus not me i'm not that nerdy

03:27:46.420 dang i don't know about that but no okay well cool thank you for that swimming tiger that's

03:27:52.900 always funny to read uh i wouldn't be like hardline opposed to returning to those kinds of names uh

03:28:01.460 Uh, I, I like my surname East. It's because we came from the Eastern part of England. It's kind

03:28:10.500 of not very creative, but it, you know, it helps me trace where in England, my ancestors were from

03:28:17.120 and then Utland for that. Uh, and so it's neat. And, uh, I think it's, well, I'm typically not

03:28:25.260 a fan of diversity, right? The diversity of surnames is cool. Uh, they tell a story and

03:28:30.380 think that's important uh plus my first name is brandon after my dad so if my name was brandon 0.71

03:28:35.660 brandonson that'd sound really stupid but other people have better names that lend themselves

03:28:41.260 well to that naming device so wouldn't be opposed to it reminds me of this the movie with the guy 0.98

03:28:49.740 whose name was major major major and they made him a major in the military that's just irresponsible

03:28:57.580 yeah i i think it would very quickly become very very confusing like should we i think in group

03:29:09.540 it'd be fun and eccentric and interesting i think it's really cool i like it it's neat

03:29:17.900 that the icelanders do that but as somebody who's tried to look up icelanders and look into

03:29:25.920 icelandic history even with their relatively low national population it becomes very confusing

03:29:36.240 because there's only so many name combinations and you run out really quick so

03:29:44.080 it's hard enough as it is to look up

03:29:47.040 you know brandon east it would be even harder to look up brandon brandonson

03:29:57.840 and i think that over time there would be a bajillion of those and it'd be very confusing

03:30:03.920 and very difficult i like it i think it's really cool it would be fun to do and fun to nerd out

03:30:10.800 over i was thinking about this a matter of fact just the other day because it is something that

03:30:14.800 i think about but i don't think that like the united states should adopt that tradition i think

03:30:22.240 it is a fun in-group thing to do or a fun thing to like call your buddies or whatever but

03:30:30.560 i don't know that we should turn back time and try to do that again we just exist and

03:30:34.960 and it's harder to keep track of.

03:30:40.400 We're a much bigger society.

03:30:42.800 It would be very difficult for America at 300 million

03:30:46.160 to have that tradition, whereas Iceland at, you know,

03:30:49.140 a couple hundred thousand is still very confusing.

03:30:55.420 Trent, if you had to explain to somebody

03:30:57.860 who isn't also true what it means to wear a Mjolnir,

03:31:00.620 how would you explain it?

03:31:02.000 And do you prefer historically accurate designs?

03:31:04.960 I'm going to answer that backwards. I always think I prefer historically accurate designs until I see a non-historically accurate design that looks cool. So, I don't know. I don't have a good answer for that one. All of them are cool, like I said.

03:31:18.300 uh if i had to explain to somebody who isn't alcatru what it means to wear the mjolnir

03:31:22.460 i would kind of give the same spiel i gave regarding how a vampire would react to it but

03:31:30.520 to reiterate uh nowadays it's worn for two reasons uh one is the more uh profane reason of

03:31:43.060 It says, hey, I'm Alcatru, ask me about this, you know, but the other reason is, of course, you know, I am a devout follower of Thor and his kin, and this means something, this gives me courage, it gives me a sort of strength.

03:32:05.920 it does

03:32:08.980 invoke Lord Thor in a way as the

03:32:10.800 Elshirigothi mentioned

03:32:11.880 and you know

03:32:15.320 the

03:32:16.540 lecture of what

03:32:19.060 Alcatru is and the various rabbit holes

03:32:20.960 therein could go on for

03:32:22.620 hours or even days following that

03:32:25.040 but that's

03:32:25.640 at least where I would start

03:32:28.040 so

03:32:36.520 the only way to answer this is assuming a situation and telling your kind of first volley

03:32:43.560 because depending on what they say the conversation can go a million different directions and i think

03:32:49.960 it's important to be open to all those directions and go there if people are like cool i like your

03:32:57.720 necklace what's that ah this is mjolnir this is the hammer of thor you mean like like thor like

03:33:07.960 the viking god yes exactly i wear this because i worship thor and this is a sign that that i am one

03:33:15.000 of his worshipers cool what i never heard of that before yeah it's called also true this is you know

03:33:22.760 whatever if they keep asking questions it really depends on where it goes from there but the

03:33:29.000 biggest thing is like oh yeah awesome be excited about it not like uh it's it's just never mind

03:33:37.320 it's amazing how when people are uncomfortable they act guilty or like they're doing something

03:33:42.840 bad and that gives a really horrible impression be proud of what it is whether they understand it or

03:33:50.360 or not. I get pretty regularly and it's common now for people to wear hammers. I see people

03:34:01.000 wearing hammers all the time. I think it's really neat to see that. I do not take advantage 1.00

03:34:07.080 of bothering those people about their hammers nearly enough and I really should. I try to 1.00

03:34:13.340 at least like, hey man, I like your hammer. Hey man, I like your Mjolnir. And if they

03:34:19.120 stop and we converse cool if they just like cool thanks and keep walking okay but i have people

03:34:25.520 ask me about it fairly regularly you know like you know every few months or something and it usually

03:34:32.480 doesn't go anywhere other than people notice it like hey i like your meal there thank you and then

03:34:38.320 they go back to business but if they want to ask something and keep going it opens up a lot of

03:34:42.720 different ways you can take it depending um uh ronald blake donated a hundred dollars towards

03:34:51.600 our south african fund thank you very much for that we appreciate your donation i appreciate

03:34:57.040 having you having you back in the chat room with me um nick reminds me to plug midsummer so

03:35:04.880 So midsummer's coming up, and it's coming up soon.

03:35:08.960 It's coming up next weekend, the 20th, at all of our Hoffs.

03:35:14.040 But very particularly, it is liable to be the very biggest event of the year.

03:35:19.380 Not guaranteed, but likely to be.

03:35:22.180 And it is the showcase event at Obenshof in Brownsville, California.

03:35:27.860 I will be going out there.

03:35:29.600 I look forward to seeing everybody out there.

03:35:31.520 It is the oldest standing AFA event.

03:35:38.340 It's kind of a big deal, but a very, very special place.

03:35:41.240 So if you can make it to Brownsville, California, June the 19th through the 21st,

03:35:46.020 I would love to see you there and worship our gods with you, and it's going to be a great time.

03:35:51.300 If you can't, I would encourage you to celebrate Midsommar at your local Hof.

03:35:56.340 We have five. Odenshoff in Brownsville, California. Thorshoff in Linden, North Carolina.

03:36:03.380 Baldershoff in Murdoch, Minnesota. Njordshoff in White Springs, Florida.

03:36:09.000 And most recently, Frazehoff in Austintown, Ohio.

03:36:14.160 So love to see you out there and look forward to having an amazing midsummer.

03:36:20.500 And I hope you guys be wherever you find yourself.

03:36:26.340 So, Trent, I'm kind of curious to hear your thoughts on this myself. Are the land spirits of America benevolent or malevolent? Are the land spirits identified by the old natives worthwhile to study and interact with? How do our land spirits come into play here?

03:36:44.460 uh i i've never thought about whether or not they're benevolent or malevolent

03:36:52.440 um i would say it probably depends on how you treat them you know uh pretty much

03:37:00.840 i mean all of our hoffs are built in these north american land spirits uh territory so to speak

03:37:10.320 and i you know land spirits have not harmed any of these hoffs that could be because their sacred

03:37:17.740 space is due to the isere and so if they had tried to harm them it simply would not work

03:37:23.220 it could be because the pious and righteous folk of the afa just simply don't bother those land 0.92

03:37:32.260 spirits maybe the land spirits hated the engines and uh are happy with the pale faces for

03:37:38.900 teach them a lesson or two i don't know um are the land spirits identified by the old natives

03:37:46.680 worthwhile to study interact with uh i mean anytime i do bloat at a place that is not

03:37:55.220 afa sacred ground you know like my house here in georgia i you know i i do the old

03:38:02.300 hallowing the the area and i mentioned to the land spirits uh you know those that wish us well

03:38:10.420 are welcome in the space those that wish us woe when you're away from here as uh speckinger spawn 0.92

03:38:16.960 taught a bunch of us as gothar students uh that is the only interaction i have or will have with

03:38:25.920 them likely uh as far as studying them yeah it sounds fascinating like uh appalachia specifically

03:38:33.040 has a really interesting history those kinds of things like uh skinwalkers uh window is it

03:38:39.400 wendigoes is that it i think i was gonna say wendigoon but i think that's a youtuber

03:38:45.060 that studies wendigoons so or wendigoes whatever those types of things are really interesting to

03:38:51.640 study i haven't put a lot of time into it because i'm busy with afa stuff uh how do our native land

03:39:00.120 spirits come into play here so i assume you mean from europe or hyperborea before that

03:39:05.140 i don't know for certain that they do you know if they're spirits of the land and we didn't bring

03:39:12.360 the land with us to this side of the planet i don't i don't know that they do come into play

03:39:19.000 all right so pause in the chat room for a second because i'd like to add to the ongoing

03:39:28.240 conversation because i want to clear something up and i think it's important to but i want to

03:39:32.740 answer this question first um this is really interesting to me

03:39:41.500 I think that

03:39:50.800 details matter

03:39:55.520 and land spirits are a

03:39:57.680 broad category of

03:39:59.720 thing and not

03:40:01.160 a singular

03:40:03.580 thing

03:40:04.120 like animals

03:40:06.600 cool

03:40:09.020 of

03:40:10.540 dog and a bear are not the same thing but they're certainly both animals

03:40:17.120 that's a really lame analogy i apologize but like land spirits there are spirits of the land

03:40:25.320 that are different things and then there are

03:40:31.100 our past ancestors that are also land spirits there are

03:40:40.780 alivar that are land spirits and there are likely dvergar who are land spirits

03:40:50.880 land spirits is a really broad category

03:40:55.560 I think the good default

03:40:59.960 is be respectful of land spirits

03:41:02.680 I think there are spirits that are tied to place

03:41:07.220 that are not culturally attuned

03:41:10.820 with one group of people or another

03:41:12.520 they just are, they exist there

03:41:14.280 and I think those it's beneficial to be respectful of

03:41:18.940 I think we bring spirits with us

03:41:26.420 when we claim space

03:41:28.420 and when we do a land taking

03:41:29.960 and there's power to that

03:41:32.180 but I think building a good relationship

03:41:34.440 with the spirits that exist in a land

03:41:36.760 makes sense

03:41:37.640 I know here in the United States

03:41:40.720 often times just because of that

03:41:42.620 engine connection

03:41:43.640 because the spirits of the land

03:41:45.360 are used to receiving tobacco

03:41:47.680 people will make offerings of tobacco i don't think that's bad i don't think you are like

03:41:55.360 worshiping dead engines i think that respecting the spirits of land you find themselves

03:42:01.360 in and forging a new path that way is probably a very good thing i think being a respectful

03:42:10.420 person when you go somewhere or when you arrive in an area or when you interact with any

03:42:17.420 kind of life form is a nice thing to do be noble in your interactions in the mundane world and in

03:42:24.780 the spiritual world um to the uh no i think spawn cleared it up over in the side but i just want to

03:42:37.160 add a couple of things. Guys practicing girl stuff isn't bad because girl stuff is less than 0.96

03:42:49.440 or is lame. Guys practicing girl stuff is bad because it's gay and unmanly. 1.00

03:42:58.780 Women magic is highly respected throughout our history. Tacitus writes in Germania, 1.00

03:43:07.160 How the tribesmen of the Germans used to put a special emphasis on women's wisdom when it came to magic, because they have a special proprietary way of interacting with the spirit world that men didn't.

03:43:24.280 I think that more often than not, women tend to be gifted with second sight in a way that men usually aren't. 0.83

03:43:31.920 Powerful female saithkona or, the other word escapes me regardless, a vulva.

03:43:48.040 The female magicians were prized and sought after by kings and by chieftains to come amongst a largely male-dominated place to speak with magical authority to those assembled, and their wisdom was trusted and was highly prized.

03:44:10.480 So it's not that female magic is less good or bad or less holy or whatever.

03:44:19.300 When we answered the question earlier, it's sacred to Freya and something you really have a lot of respect for.

03:44:26.320 But it's really different.

03:44:28.100 and a guy dressing up like a guy doing female things is fundamentally disgusting to other men

03:44:35.620 because it is a transgression against natural order and it is a disgrace and a cheapening

03:44:43.940 of the beauty of something that we value so high so the existence of it is offensive in and of 0.86

03:44:52.180 itself um but no it's not anything to do with a lesser value of the women's magic if anything

03:44:59.860 i think there is a taboo or understanding that female magic is often much more potent

03:45:07.140 um you see women historically being the keepers of um herb lore and medicinal magic i don't think

03:45:17.700 that you know there's there's a lot of crossover on stuff that doesn't make it effeminate for a

03:45:24.660 guy to do but i think specifically the um like i said the thing where you're entered by something

03:45:35.060 magic is particularly feminine and it's for women to do women things well is beautiful and honorable

03:45:42.500 and awesome. For men to do women things is an aberration and just gross. And I think we get 0.94

03:45:50.040 that. And I also think that, you know, women to try to pretend they're men is also off-putting 1.00

03:45:56.720 and gross. That doesn't mean it's because men things aren't good or aren't awesome to do.

03:46:04.040 It's an aberration for women to try to pretend that they're men and for men to try to pretend 0.88

03:46:11.200 and assume the role of the woman and it is a degradation to their manhood not because the 0.99

03:46:17.440 other thing is less than or bad but because it is outside of their natural role and it's 0.99

03:46:22.880 It's a disgrace to the sacredness 1.00

03:46:25.680 that femininity holds. 1.00

03:46:40.100 Can Hawks move? 0.85

03:46:42.040 What kind of factors would it take for one to move?

03:46:46.360 Environmental, population density, and membership?

03:46:52.880 Trenton have you given any thought to this a little um there's all kinds of different

03:47:09.560 directions that can go but uh I don't even like speaking it out loud but if something were to

03:47:17.200 happen to one of the Hoffs I know there's like wildfires that get close to Odin's Hoff all the

03:47:21.840 time and so i've thought about that uh i i suppose odin's hof in this instance would be rededicated

03:47:32.480 i would not say hof can move just due to population density and membership i would

03:47:38.000 think that would just be a new hof which we would welcome that feel free to have like member

03:47:43.520 density by population somewhere do it i dare you um

03:47:49.080 i wouldn't i wouldn't even call that a moving of the hof i think i don't know what the naming

03:47:57.140 difference would be if we had to rededicate odin's off a new odin's off i it's not up to

03:48:03.680 me of course but i think there'd be something in the title of the new hof that would kind of

03:48:08.460 denote that it's not the first original odin's off uh that's the only scenario i can think of

03:48:16.380 where a hof would move and i guess that kind of falls under the environmental thing that's all

03:48:22.780 i can think of as far as a factor that would cause that yeah i don't even want to speak that into

03:48:28.300 existence um again part of plank 2 what we talked about tonight about the immortality of it is once

03:48:35.420 Once we establish a Hoff, that Hoff's there forever with the best we can do.

03:48:46.040 To have to close down and, like, abandon a Hoff would be a tremendous failing on our part and a tremendous blow.

03:48:57.300 i'm trying to think if there was um you know some kind of you know america was invaded and

03:49:08.260 portions of you know like the communists took over california as if they haven't already and um

03:49:17.140 decided to like seize the property and kick us off it or something

03:49:24.100 i suppose a

03:49:28.660 again that's a horrible situation i wouldn't even want to

03:49:37.900 can contemplate too much it's like cool can we stay here and practice our faith at this

03:49:44.360 even though we're behind enemy lines and we're in occupied territory um i don't even know how

03:49:50.520 that would work if we absolutely had to by some legal thing where people with guns are forcing

03:49:56.440 us from the property and whatever um maybe a removal of sacred items and relics and taking

03:50:06.360 them with us to re-establish the hof somewhere else you know as our ancestors would take like

03:50:12.560 high seat pillars and such, I suppose that's the best of a terrible situation, what I have 1.00

03:50:20.620 said, but I do advise just for something like that is when our loved ones are interred in

03:50:31.080 urns rather than their ashes scattered, so in case we had to, we could exhume the urns

03:50:41.040 and take the urns with us to a new location if we had to and that's one of those thought processes

03:50:48.400 i've had but it would have to be the last possible resort for us to try to relocate a

03:50:57.680 hoff now if a natural disaster happened and a hoff burnt down do you build a new hoff and like

03:51:03.520 rededicate like if odin's hoff and i use odin's hoff for a couple of reasons it's one i thought

03:51:10.720 the most about because the one we've had along this but it's also in a very fire prone area

03:51:15.920 if it burnt to the ground we would rebuild odin's off there and it would be odin's off and it would

03:51:22.480 be rebuilt if it had to move and we could like take the altar with us and take i don't know that

03:51:33.440 would be uh i hope it doesn't come to that again it would we would

03:51:46.480 i don't know where we will be when we have hoff number 15 and we have to go into a different

03:51:53.680 naming cycle there will always be an odin's off so if worst case scenario

03:52:00.720 it was seized by a hostile power and like that chunk of ground didn't exist anymore

03:52:08.280 or was rebuilt into some kind of leering center or some nonsense we would

03:52:15.380 re-establish an odin's hof somewhere it would not be the same hof um but yeah that's a that's a

03:52:25.400 That's a chilling question that I'd prefer not to contemplate over much.

03:52:32.480 Trent, can you move a land spirit?

03:52:41.740 It's one of those things I can't answer definitively,

03:52:45.400 but I would lean towards no.

03:52:47.860 The spirit is tied to the land.

03:52:49.480 You don't take the land with you.

03:52:53.340 What do you think, sir?

03:52:55.400 I think, okay, so I appreciate the question, but I think the question's silly because it

03:53:05.140 kind of, I don't, I think there are certain spirits that are tied to a piece of land or

03:53:13.880 a location.

03:53:15.140 I don't know if those are mobile.

03:53:18.760 We refer to, as I said earlier, so many things as land spirits.

03:53:22.800 I think that spirits sacred to us move places.

03:53:29.040 But like, for example, that I'd be thinking in an extreme case, like river goddesses in Europe.

03:53:35.120 The goddess of the Rhine, you can't move to the Mississippi River.

03:53:40.260 I'm like, here, this is yours now.

03:53:42.220 I don't think that works that way because they're so specifically tied to a natural feature.

03:53:48.480 but i think there are spirits that we kind of collectively call land veteer that are

03:53:56.880 ancestral spirits that move with the tribe or with the family and i think those spirits do come but

03:54:03.820 i do think there are spirits that are tied with specific pieces of land or location those i don't

03:54:10.260 think you can move unless they're specific to an artifact on that land that you can move like if

03:54:18.360 they were a spirit of a certain sacred boulder somewhere and you were able to pick up a boulder

03:54:23.720 and put it in your skyscraper somewhere maybe something but that's really really speculative

03:54:29.760 but i appreciate so i appreciate these questions because they they do make us think and i

03:54:40.380 it's crucial that we re-examine stuff that we take for granted

03:54:45.660 and that we um rethink out the logical and things i think that's very important to do

03:54:52.220 trent what is your favorite 90s grunge or metal band

03:55:01.680 uh for grunge uh soundgarden or the first three and only the first three albums of uh

03:55:12.460 smashing pumpkins anything after melancholy and the infinite sadness is

03:55:17.240 is cringe nuclear cringe uh metal bands

03:55:24.060 well of course the greatest metal band of all time had their heyday in the 90s

03:55:30.740 so pantera naturally anyone who answers otherwise is lying to you and truth is a virtue so just you 0.61

03:55:38.500 know be aware of that megadeth was also good in the 90s metallica got really gay in the 90s

03:55:45.220 although i do like some songs from load but it just they're not metal songs anymore is all

03:55:51.220 i don't know that i can speak to 90s metal i'm not that guy um a favorite 90s grunge bands pearl

03:56:03.460 jam i'm surprised with you in the smashing pumpkin so so keep guessing

03:56:12.740 billy corgan makes me uncomfortable yeah that's his whole thing you know he like shaved his head

03:56:25.620 so as not to be vain or whatever because he felt like he was just too good looking with his hair

03:56:29.940 it's like no he's always looked like someone that deserved to be shoved into a locker and

03:56:33.960 then he shaved his head and he just looked like someone that deserved to be shoved into a locker

03:56:38.520 that he doesn't, like, cannibalize your family or something, you know?

03:56:46.680 There you have it, folks.

03:56:56.980 So, which of the nine noble virtues do you guys associate with?

03:57:02.720 do you see these virtues play out in your daily lives

03:57:10.660 i don't follow the first half of the question i apologize so i'm gonna i'm gonna flip the script

03:57:20.760 which is the virtues do you associate yourself with that's not what it says that's what it means

03:57:27.740 That's what Nick says it means.

03:57:29.740 Nick's not Isaac. 0.74

03:57:31.220 I mean, but no, but Nick's correct. 0.93

03:57:34.180 I kid.

03:57:36.460 Which – no, because any of us are going to say, oh, all nine of them.

03:57:43.720 Trent, which two of the nine-no virtues do you most associate yourself with,

03:57:48.520 and do you see these virtues play out in your daily life?

03:57:52.440 Before I answer that, I just want to point out,

03:57:54.240 Billy Corgan was on Alex Jones' show once or twice.

03:57:56.960 You should look into that.

03:57:58.120 Okay.

03:57:59.180 The two of the nine double virtues.

03:58:04.440 Like you said, I'd like to say I aspire to all of them, certainly.

03:58:08.880 The two I would associate with the most.

03:58:13.000 I'm going to say fidelity or loyalty, whichever you prefer to use.

03:58:18.200 And I'm not trying to make myself seem cool or whatever.

03:58:28.300 I really try to aspire to courage. 0.99

03:58:31.720 I've been in positions where I needed to for stupid reasons. 0.98

03:58:36.160 And so that one's important to me. 0.97

03:58:38.840 Do I see them play out in my daily life?

03:58:41.860 Fidelity and loyalty for sure.

03:58:44.020 Again, I'm not trying to toot my own horn, but I've been very loyal to.

03:58:48.200 The AFA and other things in my life, I'm going to continue to be, and that's really important to me.

03:58:52.800 As far as courage, if there's an instance where I can show courage, I certainly try to, but those don't come about too often, I guess.

03:59:13.600 I'm going to say honor and perseverance.

03:59:18.200 trying

03:59:27.800 and it

03:59:30.060 mine's a little bit of a

03:59:31.960 I don't know

03:59:33.200 I'm cheating on this a little bit

03:59:36.200 because so

03:59:38.220 much of my daily life

03:59:39.940 is wrapped up

03:59:42.040 in overtly

03:59:43.560 Alistair stuff it's a little bit

03:59:45.940 easier and different

03:59:47.740 to answer than some other people do um i would say honor in the sense that i'm very very aware of

04:00:02.460 the gravity of my situation and i try really hard to be um to have that reflected in how

04:00:13.420 i treat people or how i make decisions because i'm aware that i'm not just making them as me

04:00:19.020 i'm making them as the else here you go to give the house true folk assembly so i want to be

04:00:23.340 i want to rise to that standard so that's kind of an ever-present thought

04:00:31.420 in how i do things um

04:00:37.180 and perseverance in the sense that um

04:00:43.420 again the tremendous weight to what we're doing and to what i am entrusted with ensuring that we

04:00:54.860 do well there are a lot of things that come up to try to derail or wear down or negativity thrown

04:01:04.860 our direction or whatever else but pushing through the lows to reach new

04:01:16.360 highs pushing through adversity pushing through times where there's an

04:01:23.340 enthusiasm gap or where there's naysayers pushing through because

04:01:31.180 anything less is unacceptable to me is something that I think that I I'm

04:01:45.160 consciously aware and consciously striving for hopefully I hit my mark on

04:01:50.740 that sometimes but it's something that I'm always aware of and I'm very

04:01:56.940 I'm consciously trying to apply myself to persevering when it comes to moving out to truth forward.

04:02:13.180 Trent, are there malevolent spirits? If so, how does one deal with them?

04:02:18.240 So I'll give my answer, but I also recommend taking this question to Speckner Brandy or any of our Githyr, really.

04:02:32.260 They'll have a far better answer than me.

04:02:37.100 But are there malevolent spirits? Yeah, of course.

04:02:40.260 uh maybe there are some land but here here in uh north america that are not happy with our uh 0.99

04:02:49.340 conquest of uh the uh the redskins if so how does one deal with them 0.99

04:02:56.220 so that's part of the purpose of a land taking or land blessing uh for one it you know 1.00

04:03:04.160 sort of sanctifies the space

04:03:07.180 in the name of the Aesir

04:03:08.260 and there's all kinds of other

04:03:14.460 like rune based ways to deal with them

04:03:16.840 one way that

04:03:17.600 a former

04:03:19.320 AFA Gothi student

04:03:22.660 from

04:03:23.280 about 10 years ago

04:03:25.880 told me was to kind of

04:03:29.180 galder the rune in Thurasaws

04:03:32.340 and sort of trace it over each

04:03:34.140 doorway of whatever space you're trying to chase these spirits away from

04:03:39.780 um another thing i've heard is one way you might feel that you're being influenced by some kind of

04:03:49.520 malevolent spirit is if your uh your your mindset your headspace just especially negative for no

04:03:56.300 real reason and not in an like anxiety or depressive way but just this kind of out of

04:04:02.280 nowhere, constant negativity in your own head. And I guess part of dealing with that would be

04:04:08.780 being aware of it and actively fighting it there instead of letting yourself kind of fall into

04:04:13.060 these, uh, you know, the sort of black hole of negativity and doom and gloom, just actively

04:04:19.120 fighting that, looking on the bright side of things, et cetera. Like I said, I'm not super

04:04:23.760 well-versed in this stuff. I am, I am not interesting enough to have been attacked by

04:04:28.460 malevolent spirit thankfully uh again i would genuinely urge you to ask any of the githyr

04:04:36.140 if any of them are on vns anytime soon i would urge you to come back well whether they are or

04:04:41.340 not come back and see this show again but also to ask them specifically because they'll have

04:04:47.420 some great answers i can assure you of that

04:04:49.740 so my approach is different so first yes they're malevolent spirits

04:05:01.500 um

04:05:06.700 i have been asked as a gothi to

04:05:09.820 exorcism goes too far but to free people of malevolent spirit attachments to

04:05:29.040 to um clear haunted spaces um

04:05:42.240 my approach is

04:05:44.240 I'm trying to figure out how to characterize it.

04:06:01.600 I don't know the right word to say it.

04:06:03.360 I don't mean it disparagingly, so hopefully you take my meaning.

04:06:07.360 Mine is more off the cuff from the heart and less hocus pocus.

04:06:22.340 There's a lot of people that have a lot of different things they do with fire and with salt, with smoke and with banishing rituals and whatnot.

04:06:35.780 And I may incorporate those theatrics into it sometimes, but one thing that I think is really important, I make it sound too simple, and I apologize, but dealing with spiritual forces, it's not that it's not more complicated,

04:07:01.200 but we have a tendency to throw out the things that we know

04:07:05.900 in order to deal with the other.

04:07:11.140 The base of our interacting with anything

04:07:14.500 is based on how we understand interacting with the stuff that we're familiar with.

04:07:22.340 How do you interact with a scary dog?

04:07:27.840 How do you interact with a bully?

04:07:31.300 How do you interact with shady groups of people or earth fauna that you deal with on the streets?

04:07:41.920 Don't let all of that go out the window when you contemplate dealing with malevolent spiritual entities.

04:07:49.580 There is a wisdom that we learn in dealing with malevolence in the world around us.

04:07:54.840 When there is conscious malevolence, you deal with things in certain ways,

04:08:00.780 and some of those things hold very true and spiritual realm.

04:08:08.700 Dogs sense when you're afraid, and if you start acting twitchy and scared,

04:08:17.280 it triggers predators to attack and to increase their predation.

04:08:24.840 if you're in a crowd of people and you're acting scared and you're acting shady and you're all

04:08:30.760 like terrified you are an easy person to take advantage of if you don't and you have self

04:08:38.840 confidence in both of those scenarios you are less likely to be predated upon the same is true

04:08:49.240 in the spiritual realm. If you are constantly scared of spirits and stuff, malevolent spirits

04:08:58.280 often feed upon misfortune and other things, but they also feed upon fear. If you are fearful

04:09:07.000 and you act like a victim, then they tend to victimize you. Also, if you, oh, I'll go hard

04:09:18.300 the other way and I'll just be a jerk and provoke things, that also tends to get a response from 0.98

04:09:25.220 all predatory things. So use those lessons when you deal with malevolent spiritual forces. The 0.99

04:09:34.420 other thing is you build up a certain amount of spiritual might and gravitas in your life.

04:09:42.980 Know where you're at with that.

04:09:44.840 Be honest with yourself.

04:09:46.980 Don't sell yourself short, but don't overblow your abilities.

04:09:52.500 I think that invoking your ancestors and loved ones who are beyond the veil to help you is a very valid thing to do.

04:10:03.900 I think in treating your philgia to help you in the spiritual realm is a good thing to do.

04:10:12.420 And I think calling upon the gods to help you is a very good thing to do. 0.99

04:10:19.240 But I also think that you standing tall and proud and looking things in the eye and being assertive with your spiritual might is worth doing.

04:10:31.700 I think you have a spiritual presence.

04:10:34.940 I have found in my dealings with things that if you act over-cautious or over-scared of spiritual forces,

04:10:45.680 they have power that they would not otherwise have if you assert yourself confidently

04:10:52.420 and you recognize their existence and deal with them not as an unknown force that has power over

04:11:03.480 you, but as a known force that exists in your life. I don't know if this is coming off as clear

04:11:14.440 as I would like it to be, but in my experience, if you talk directly at the thing that is

04:11:25.980 malevolent, and you set ground rules on stuff, and you invoke the gods to help you, and you

04:11:37.060 stand confidently when scary things are happening, there's less of an ability for that negative

04:11:46.180 thing to affect you. And if they want to prey on things and you are a hard target, most

04:11:54.700 predators will prefer soft targets to hard targets. If you make yourself a hard target,

04:12:03.840 they will move to softer targets um i think this is true in a crowd i think this is true

04:12:12.820 when wolves are going after a herd i think this is true when you're dealing with black bear

04:12:20.020 not that they're typically predators but like you have an ability and the more you make yourself

04:12:27.160 unpleasant the less likely they are to hurt you um but yeah know what you're dealing with if it's

04:12:35.620 something overwhelming by all means entreat one of our go-thar to help you um there's stuff that

04:12:41.540 can be done but don't abdicate that you have spiritual efficacy beyond yourself if you're

04:12:47.000 living right if you have a relationship with the ancestors with your gods and with your filia then

04:12:53.080 you have supporters on the other side of the veil you have things in your favor you're not just at

04:12:58.180 the whim of malevolent spiritual forces don't if you let them in and you abdicate your power to

04:13:06.560 them they will oppress you that's kind of what they feed off of and what they do and i worry

04:13:13.700 that my answer kind of has gone real far afield here uh but that's that's my reaction too

04:13:18.620 which oust true hero

04:13:23.540 uh sacrificed the most in your opinion trent

04:13:29.840 i don't know that there's a like straightforward objective answer to that so many of them

04:13:39.900 lost their lives and their worldly possessions to usually to olaf trig the sun

04:13:46.080 um i guess you could argue about which one had the most gruesome death um

04:13:54.600 uh goethe raud the strong is the one that first comes to mind when i read that question i try to

04:14:05.180 think of which one had the most gruesome death i guess um yeah i don't know i guess i'm gonna go

04:14:13.520 with that, but just with the caveat, there's not a solid answer to that because so many

04:14:19.320 of them just lost their lives and their worldly possessions to the Traitor Olaf.

04:14:25.060 so i'm thinking on it i apologize for the dead air on like who sacrificed the most

04:14:45.300 it's hard because

04:14:49.100 we have heroes that

04:14:52.600 put in work but weren't killed

04:14:56.560 for the cause and so

04:15:00.540 it's like you want to immediately go to the ones that were

04:15:05.300 put to death for their faith

04:15:08.700 I mean, a number of, like Trent said, I think Roud's death was particularly not good.

04:15:38.700 sorry i'm really i really am trying to think on this one and i want to make sure i give a

04:15:47.500 a good answer that's assessed properly of this i think he's kind of a front runner um

04:15:58.940 so we have a couple of newly recognized heroes that i think there's a case to be made about as well

04:16:28.940 and both of them were burnt alive so eric carlson or clausen um who we're going to be celebrating

04:16:45.200 his remembrance i believe on friday he and uh rackvall odenskarl were both burned at the stake

04:16:58.640 for refusing to denounce Odin

04:17:02.920 in the late 1400s.

04:17:07.020 I think burning to death is pretty awful.

04:17:11.300 So perhaps one of those two.

04:17:19.540 If Frigg was asking

04:17:22.000 non-animated objects not to hurt Balder,

04:17:26.000 then how is that not animism trent well uh so our stories are not meant to be taken

04:17:36.240 super duper ultra concrete literally as the abrahamic ones are so for example uh the thing

04:17:44.440 about jesus walking on water that's meant to be taken literally that would be a miracle right

04:17:50.020 with our stuff though it it's not always they convey a truth with a capital t they don't

04:17:59.000 so all right balder is a god all right mistletoe is not literally going to kill a god because he's

04:18:10.960 a god but the story conveys the truth of balder's death and his trip to hell and the attempts to

04:18:19.960 bring him back from hell it's not animism because we don't take that literally

04:18:28.000 obviously you can't speak to mistletoe and it cannot speak back to you it cannot take an oath

04:18:35.720 because it doesn't have a soul it doesn't have sentience etc uh i if you were to take all of

04:18:43.200 myths extremely literally though i see why in that case that would be pointed to as evidence of animism

04:19:02.000 what tritt said no it's exactly that that's the point of the story is

04:19:08.320 let's ask all of the things we can possibly find and they found the one small little thing that

04:19:17.360 seemed very harmless and overlooked one thing and that's all it took for evil to take hold

04:19:23.840 and inflict such a great harm it's like the fetter that they use to to bind finger

04:19:31.680 we're not meant to believe that it's literally made out of bird spit and the sound a cat makes

04:19:40.960 when it moves and the roots of a mountain the idea is it's made up of all these impossible

04:19:49.060 substances that are like you know almost like you have impossible to find if you found enough

04:19:56.260 of these impossible things that are so completely rare you could make this special special thing

04:20:02.420 it wasn't meant to be literally those materials just like there's not the spirit of mistletoe

04:20:09.220 but even if it were what mistletoe did she ask didn't say she asked every sprig of mistletoe

04:20:16.900 or every mistletoe plant in that case mistletoe was up i speak for the mistletoe i'll choose not

04:20:26.580 to do this thing the idea that every single piece of mistletoe would be consulted wouldn't make sense

04:20:34.500 just like the idea of animism every blade of grass clearly isn't a person it just doesn't

04:20:40.820 makes sense that way or you know if really cool boulders are spirits okay but what about like

04:20:50.180 little rocks what about pebbles what about sand what about dust it just doesn't play out that way

04:20:59.860 um it just doesn't work that way but i do see your question and in that particular context i

04:21:05.620 I don't think it's a dumb thing to ask.

04:21:08.820 I think it's, I think it is worth the question, certainly.

04:21:14.860 But yeah, exactly as Trent described it there.

04:21:23.820 Jeffrey in Texas donated $15 to the Pavilion and $15 to Njords Hall.

04:21:29.100 Thank you, Jeffrey.

04:21:29.900 We appreciate you.

04:21:30.820 We appreciate your generosity.

04:21:35.620 Any thoughts on Hoffs to the children of the Aesir?

04:21:50.620 Like Magni, Modi, Thurther, Knoss, Gerseni, et cetera.

04:21:58.620 Trent, do you have any of those thoughts?

04:22:03.620 uh yeah well i can't say for certain that those are definitely going to happen exactly as those

04:22:15.360 names it's absolutely entirely within the realm of possibility i think realistically we're going

04:22:21.220 to be a couple of alzharia or gothar down the road by the time we get to them but i would

04:22:27.820 certainly say that my thoughts on Hofstad then would be like yes they will happen but it might

04:22:35.140 be my son or my grandkids or great-grandkids that are alive for them being dedicated and get that

04:22:42.560 far down the list rather than me being alive for it. Yeah certainly I mean it's not out of the realm

04:22:54.880 possibility at all i don't really know what we're going to do when we get past the first 14. 0.69

04:23:05.200 um there will undoubtedly be multiple odin's hoffs and multiple

04:23:12.720 hoffs to specific gods there may very well be hoffs to the icer generally there may be hoffs

04:23:20.960 like named after our heroes with a particular focus um that's interesting and it's something

04:23:31.280 that i don't know that our ancestors dealt with in the same way but we will definitely

04:23:38.160 figure that out when the time comes and i'm certainly open to hoffs uh to the children of the

04:23:43.520 guys. Speckinger Trent, what is your favorite comfort food and what is your preferred doneness

04:23:56.580 for steak? My preferred doneness for steak is medium rare, but I'll accept medium. As far as

04:24:04.220 my favorite comfort food uh the box craft mac and cheese the other day uh so for some background 0.93

04:24:14.540 info i guess my wife's a really good cook and uh she makes this really awesome macaroni and cheese 0.98

04:24:20.520 like five kinds of cheese in it uh it's kind of a pain in the ass for her to make but you know 0.91

04:24:25.700 it's macaroni and cheese right we i forget what we had for dinner as like the the main the entree 0.93

04:24:33.960 i guess but i remember i was like let's have craft mac and cheese as the side she was

04:24:39.160 so annoyed with me because she's like why that's garbage and i was like yeah but just you know

04:24:44.920 let's just do that and she was like okay we're gonna buy this many boxes and i was like no buy

04:24:49.640 double that and make all of it she was like are you sure i was like yeah there won't be any

04:24:55.080 leftovers I promise and I ate like a just morbidly disgusting amount of Kraft mac and cheese that

04:25:04.920 night I don't regret it at all it was uh my granny used to make it along with other homemade foods

04:25:12.580 for a Sunday supper every week when I was a kid and just something about like that crappy boxed

04:25:18.600 macaroni and cheese I just love it so that's my comfort food and then I eat steak like a sane

04:25:24.220 person medium rare or medium all right uh have you noticed a pipeline from anti-abrahamism

04:25:39.660 to austral p.s it was great to see you on adam green's show well i appreciated the invite and

04:25:46.140 i was really glad to get to go on there and speak to his audience trent have you noticed a pipeline

04:25:52.700 from anti-abrahamism to altitude uh yeah kind of i wish it was a larger pipe so we could fit more

04:26:01.420 people through it um yeah it it feels slow going it's increased a lot recently which is great and i

04:26:12.620 i hope and also predict that it's going to continue to increase

04:26:15.900 i've certainly noticed it though yeah it's big on that's why i was saying if people want to help the

04:26:22.700 War effort, as it were, get on Twitter, get on X and kind of find these people and bring them in.

04:26:30.620 That's where most of it's happening, as far as I can tell.

04:26:35.240 So.

04:26:37.720 Yes, and our people come home for from a variety of different places for a variety of different reasons.

04:26:47.160 There are.

04:26:47.840 are so it depends on how hard you want to go on anti-abrahamism what i

04:27:03.440 i'd separate that into two things

04:27:07.200 there are what i do see as a pipeline that often works out well for us are christians

04:27:17.120 who become dissatisfied with Christianity.

04:27:24.320 They like elements of church ritual

04:27:30.020 and they like community

04:27:31.660 and they like organized religion,

04:27:33.560 but they don't like Jesus

04:27:36.700 and they don't like the Jesus morality

04:27:40.380 that's taught in church.

04:27:42.940 There is a big influx of those people 1.00

04:27:45.960 into Al-Satru, and that's been very productive. Then there's people who just don't like 0.97

04:27:54.100 Jews and Muslims and Christians generally, but they come from like an atheism, but they like

04:28:01.980 to hate on Abrahamism. And there's plenty to dislike about Abrahamism, please don't get me 1.00

04:28:08.520 wrong. But those people, if they're coming from an atheist background and they're here because 0.98

04:28:15.160 they don't like christianity it is harder to get them to embrace spirituality religiously

04:28:24.920 and not as just a philosophy or an idea or a counterpoint to jewish-based faiths

04:28:33.240 so there is a pipeline for that but getting those people to have a productive devotional

04:28:38.920 relationship to the icer is harder than the other group that i mentioned so it is harder for that

04:28:46.840 group that's kind of why we harp on the importance of uh sort of suspending your cynicism for a

04:28:53.400 minute and kind of just going to an event and giving it a shot i mentioned that ostara 2016

04:28:57.960 i went to i had to kind of do that because the reason i went to atheism is because i hated

04:29:03.080 christianity it's not because i you know i was like ah christianity is jewish which it is and

04:29:09.580 that's yes plenty of reason not to follow but that's not why i hated it and so you know i think

04:29:16.400 kind of nominally at first i went to an event and uh first the first thing we did was uh steve

04:29:23.900 mcnellan's uh blow to the all father and i kind of you know i loved it of course and i convinced

04:29:29.920 myself. Well, maybe I'm just sort of this feeling I'm feeling is just me working myself up with

04:29:35.000 some kind of chemical in my brain or whatever. And then the next day, uh, a Goethe Flavel at the time

04:29:41.340 did a bloat to Ostara, the main bloat. And I kind of felt a similar enough feeling that it was

04:29:48.340 clearly a different being sort of, but of the same caliber, I guess, interacting with us. And

04:29:57.300 that was what convinced me oh hey this is totally real maybe my ancestors followed this for tens of

04:30:04.020 thousands of years for a reason and so i i can't stress enough the importance of giving it an honest

04:30:11.240 try even if you are one of those people that just hates christianity and i i don't blame you for

04:30:15.900 hating christianity you can reach out to me on the side and we'll gripe about it till the cows come

04:30:20.860 home, but there has to be more to it than that.

04:30:24.620 Yeah, that's, uh, all right.

04:30:26.820 So this is our last question for tonight, but I want to end on kind of on this note.

04:30:34.540 Um, so to this question, um, I guess not really, but kind of follow up something that

04:30:44.860 Trent said. There is, I'm not interested in trying to argue and like win a debate to get you to

04:31:01.760 practice house and truth. Like I'll try, I'll give it my best shot if it'll help get you here,

04:31:06.360 but it's not an intellectual proposition and I don't think that you build sincere

04:31:14.760 faith that way you don't build it by dissecting the lore and postulating

04:31:21.300 whether you believe in a red-bearded strong man that rides a goat chariot or

04:31:29.520 not. That's silly. Whatever your thought is. It's not an intellectual argument. What happens 0.99

04:31:39.080 if you're honest? And I say that. I can't guarantee you that's your experience. What

04:31:45.100 has happened to me if I'm honest? When I have stood in bloat to Asa Thor, I know that there

04:31:57.420 There is a presence that hears me and that I exchange gifts with someone who hears what

04:32:11.480 I'm saying and accepts my gift and that presence is palpable to me and in exchange I receive

04:32:23.820 blessings from the person that i've given gifts to that's real that exists you stand in the circle

04:32:34.460 there and you try to articulate what mechanism that thor conveys blessings and like how exactly

04:32:41.100 does he relate to the storm i don't know but when thunder's out i feel the presence of thor and i

04:32:48.380 I know that he's there.

04:32:51.620 We can work on articulating the mechanism

04:32:54.420 and talking about the science or the philosophy or whatever else,

04:32:58.640 but you can't out-science truth.

04:33:01.500 There is something real and transcendent

04:33:03.940 when you approach our gods

04:33:07.940 and when your approaching is smiled upon by them

04:33:12.860 that you know and that you feel.

04:33:15.360 and once you feel it you can never unfeel it once you know you can never unknow

04:33:21.140 it doesn't have to happen every time in every circumstance it has to happen one time

04:33:29.120 and you know that it's real and you can't go back to unknowing you can try to

04:33:35.280 trick yourself but it doesn't work that way so that's the thing is if you try to overthink it

04:33:42.400 you'll find any way in the world to justify not participating or not believing or whatever

04:33:48.520 you want to do, but if you open yourself up to transformation, something happens that's

04:33:57.100 undeniable, and that's real and it's true, and I would invite anybody to, well, any heterosexual

04:34:08.460 white people to come and experience 0.85

04:34:10.360 that with us.

04:34:12.780 Also, I want to say

04:34:14.100 we have a sacred mission assigned to us

04:34:18.640 by the gods themselves

04:34:19.840 to bring

04:34:22.520 our folk home

04:34:23.500 and to build

04:34:26.800 and maintain

04:34:28.400 to the best of our

04:34:30.660 ability the institution

04:34:32.280 of Alcetru through the Alcetru

04:34:34.340 Folk Center.

04:34:34.940 Be part of that.

04:34:39.920 Help do that.

04:34:42.680 Get on the team. 0.96

04:34:44.420 If you hear this and you are heterosexual and white, come home. 0.77

04:34:50.540 Join the OUTSA True Folk Assembly.

04:34:53.360 Be willing to get outside of your comfort zone and to be part of the team.

04:34:59.440 Let's build something for our children and our grandchildren.

04:35:03.380 something for our folk for the gods let's do this together we have amazing things ahead of us

04:35:10.920 and the more of us do it together the more we'll be able to accomplish

04:35:15.620 um trend thank you for joining me this evening uh it's a pleasure as always appreciate your

04:35:22.520 contribution to the program everybody else thank you guys for being here we love having your

04:35:28.860 really good questions tonight. We appreciate your donations. We appreciate your participation.

04:35:35.120 Nick, thank you for all that you do. Until next time, hail the Iseer, hail the folk,

04:35:41.780 hail the AFA, and remember, victory never sleeps.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - June 11, 2026

6⧸10⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 205 - The Mission

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