Asatru Folk Assembly - 6⧸12⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 101 - Hárbarðsljóð, Part 2

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00:03:00.000 Hello, everyone, and welcome.

00:03:14.000 So today on the 101st episode of Victory Never Sleeps, we have Witten Svahn on for us to

00:03:22.440 continue our study of the Harbarth Sluve.

00:03:26.600 and we were, I think, like, stanza 40.

00:03:33.540 I'm sure Nick will remember exactly where we were on there.

00:03:36.600 We made it quite a bit of the way through.

00:03:38.320 I think we should get through that this evening,

00:03:43.080 but that's never a guarantee

00:03:45.740 because I get kind of inspired at random points

00:03:50.300 to wax philosophic.

00:03:56.600 coming up way sooner than I think some of us realize is a midsummer at Odenshoff.

00:04:04.560 It's coming up very, very soon. It's a week and a half from now. Look forward to seeing as many

00:04:12.360 of you guys as I can there. If that's something you can make it to, I would recommend you do.

00:04:16.580 It's a great time. Love showing off Odenshoff. There's been a lot of really nice things done

00:04:22.940 there since this time last year. And certainly, you know, if you haven't seen it in more than a

00:04:29.040 year, then certainly a lot since then. So I'm excited about it. It's going to be great. And

00:04:34.240 I look forward to seeing you guys there. Coming up the following month with a little bit more

00:04:40.600 lead time, but just about a month away, we have Sigur Bloat at Sigurheim, and that is in Jackson

00:04:48.340 County, Tennessee. I'd love to see you guys there. I'm excited to get back out there. I love that

00:04:53.780 place. It's very special and it's neat to be there at the beginning and watch as it develops

00:05:03.620 because so many amazing things are going to happen there. So we'd love to see you guys there. And

00:05:08.420 And last but not least, in August, please join us for Frey Faxi at Baldur's Hall.

00:05:17.960 We'd love to see you there.

00:05:20.060 We're going to have the Youngs will be up there for the very first time.

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00:08:19.000 um also before we get cracking a couple more seconds of nick showing sight stuff cool so

00:08:29.360 before we get going our merchandise of the evening if you are interested is for the ladies

00:08:35.540 ladies get one of these four get one of or all of these four beautiful ladies shirts designed with

00:08:46.300 the hoff flower for each of our hoffs and these were chosen by ladies and leadership in each of

00:08:56.460 those districts um no they're beautiful and again we don't know how long any of these things are

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00:09:15.260 amazing products one or more of these amazing products we'd appreciate it um but yeah we

00:09:21.260 appreciate you guys um go ahead i was gonna say does nick have a list of those flowers i know

00:09:27.020 they're individual and i um the rose and the orange um are pretty pretty prevalent but people

00:09:34.540 might not be familiar with um the the center too and i'm actually drawing a blank so it is a very

00:09:41.980 special breed of rose um yeah as we do the show nick can get you a detailed uh listing of those

00:09:50.060 he's probably going to bother brandy to get that because brandy was heading up the project she

00:09:55.260 knows and either nick or brandy will have those answers for us as the show progresses yeah i

00:10:01.740 remember when they were doing the deciding of for thor soft specifically and there was a lot of um

00:10:07.580 kind of choices to be made there was uh people kind of a lot of the ladies and i got to see some

00:10:13.180 of this going on and i was really interested to find out which one like won out because um everyone

00:10:18.300 was kind of i don't know became like botanists all of a sudden there was all these um you know

00:10:23.740 beautiful flowers the black uh black and orange orange and black uh you know um ones getting

00:10:31.980 thrown around and i was like oh man i can't wait to see which one you know wins out

00:10:38.380 all righty well um to start off as seemingly always uh ronald blake bought us coffee and

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00:10:57.740 uh ronald we appreciate you more than you realize thank you um

00:11:04.540 it's what we've got off the top nick's got a little graphic he's thrown up on that anybody

00:11:11.980 who wants to donate this evening um got a few options on that you can monetize your question

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00:11:40.540 any of our causes that we are trying to raise money for

00:11:46.060 um last month was outstanding you guys were a huge huge impact on getting us

00:11:55.420 out of the debt for new york soft and moving us forward towards the acquisition of phrase off

00:12:03.580 i think we made four extra mortgage payments within a month's time on top of the

00:12:10.860 scheduled ones. That's where we're at on that calendar. Got $85,872.60 remaining. Sounds like

00:12:22.640 a big number, but not when you consider that in less than two years' time, we've paid off $159,127.40.

00:12:33.860 What this means is just about $110 per AFA member would pay this off immediately.

00:12:40.860 just to kind of put it in intangibles for folks.

00:12:48.040 And we have a list of the flowers.

00:12:51.860 So the Odenshof flower, the official flower of Odenshof is the Sheila Rose.

00:12:57.640 It's a special breed of rose.

00:13:00.400 Perfect. 1.00

00:13:01.260 Corresponding to the githya that has given so much of herself

00:13:05.000 and continues to make Odenshof such an amazing place

00:13:08.920 and such a powerful offering to the all-father um

00:13:18.600 the thor's half flower gladiolus is the gladiolus

00:13:25.640 um i love how each two with the um with it with the accompanying um you know virtues or uh

00:13:35.640 um and these yeah these are thought out they got to be pretty but they also have meanings in the

00:13:41.640 symbolic botanical world um baldur's off is the white lilac which i think is really fitting and

00:13:49.960 nice and uh particularly fitting for njordshoff in the sunshine state of florida we have awesome

00:13:59.640 which is pretty and fragrant so there you have that if you guys would like to follow along this

00:14:08.760 evening we are uh once again doing the harbarth slow and we are using and here's the link we have

00:14:18.280 up we're using the bellows translation um as always you're welcome to use whatever translation

00:14:23.700 you like uh the little variances and differences are helpful and insightful to ponder why one

00:14:33.380 you know one choice was chosen over the other and uh give you a few minutes to get that set

00:14:40.900 up if you would like i say that we've already been talking probably give you a few seconds

00:14:44.580 to get that set up and then i will get to the meat of today's program um

00:14:53.700 Yeah, just last week was a really fun episode, and I want to just once again say thank you to everybody who regularly shows up, asks their questions, supports, and is a part of this program.

00:15:13.520 It's very much an audience-driven program in a lot of ways.

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00:15:27.740 So thank you, and I look forward to many hundreds more episodes.

00:15:33.400 With that, Svon, would you like to get us into the text?

00:15:37.000 I believe we are starting on stanza 41 this evening.

00:15:41.560 Yes, okay.

00:15:43.140 Uh, let's see. Uh, yes, we are. And I need, uh, let me just do one last thing. I wanted to, um,

00:15:55.100 check, uh, 40 real quick. Um,

00:16:03.660 yes. So the reason why I wanted to back check just a little bit is because we were on a point

00:16:08.740 in this in which the insults are kind of less um pronounced in this part here the the insults are

00:16:19.700 kind of insinuated and um uh you know lord odin in in harbarth form uh you know speaks of his

00:16:31.180 you know in the host i was that hither fared the banners to raise and the spears to redden

00:16:36.420 so he was stating about how he was within the it's it's not specified it's it's like kind of

00:16:46.580 led to an alluding sense that he was within the throng of either humanity or possibly an unknown

00:16:54.260 uh battle with for the einherjar it leaves a lot of questions to be um kind of brought up and i

00:17:01.640 wanted to like double check and back log to that um so this part following that in 41

00:17:15.480 thor speaks and says wilt thou now say that hatred thou soughtest to bring us

00:17:22.280 so in incorrect like direction of the stanza before in 40 what this would mean is that um

00:17:39.240 the storm father lord thor is saying that the the battle most likely was of like a heavenly nature

00:17:47.080 and a divine nature and that it was one that brought upon or fraught the the heavenly realm

00:17:55.860 with danger um some people try to take this part here and allude that somehow thor thinks that this

00:18:06.980 is loki and i don't think that that is the case we already kind of covered that at length last

00:18:14.040 episode about this where we were talking about how there is this um a very very um

00:18:21.080 deep connection i think this story has to slavic counterparts and um this

00:18:28.840 standing alone it it could be alluded to but when you look at the stanza before

00:18:34.360 it's saying that you know i was amongst the throng i was amongst the army i wanted blood

00:18:39.960 lost i wanted the blades to be red you know i wanted the banners high and thor is saying well

00:18:48.040 well thou say that the hatred thou soughtest to bring us but there's another thing that's

00:18:53.640 worth noting and it's actually noted in um down at the bottom of the website that we're using

00:19:01.080 for the reference that um the other word used in the in the regius was sickness or illness

00:19:09.640 and we went pretty heavy over um the usage of the word ill or um evil and things of that nature and

00:19:18.280 um i'm still looking at the source of the word the word being uh only all louvian um

00:19:29.000 as a as a source and i'm i'm running into some dead ends there so interesting word uh for folks to

00:19:36.440 you know look into um but i believe that that's really what this is is that the the stirring of

00:19:43.560 strife is a common uh mantle placed upon lord odin in the in the viking age um lord odin was

00:19:56.440 specifically saw as or seen as in poetics as again the creator of of battles the creator of

00:20:06.760 fights and um and this again being the animosity brought against us because of the of your stirring

00:20:15.840 of strife so that i think is the ultimate insult there is that is or not the ultimate insult but

00:20:20.720 ultimate insult he's trying to insinuate um and then harbard returns in 42 and he makes another

00:20:29.040 kind of deeper alluding um he says in 42 a ring for thy hand shall make all right for thee

00:20:40.320 as the judges decide who sets up to at peace so in return he's saying you know you're you're

00:20:48.080 blaming me for strife that i've caused and all of the aftermath that that brings but don't worry

00:20:53.760 you know i can pay you off um because true peace is really brought about by by just just as corrupt

00:21:02.240 men or just as corrupt judges so the idea being that it's like it's uh stirring strife is no less

00:21:11.520 a task than appeasing those who could be bribed. And again, that's alluding to that the Storm

00:21:24.120 Father Lord for could be bought off. But he's also making kind of, again, a larger statement

00:21:29.960 that, you know, many times what causes the strife can be just as cunning or conniving as what ends

00:21:39.040 it um and then thor speaks where foundest thou so foul and scornful a speech more foul a speech

00:21:52.480 i have never before have heard and harvard retorts in 44 he says i learned it from men

00:22:01.700 the men so old who dwell in the hills of home now i didn't really know where to take that one

00:22:12.220 and uh bellows kind of believes that the reference is the burial grounds and the burial grounds

00:22:20.140 of so in essence he had learned it from the souls of men or he had learned it from the history of

00:22:27.440 men um and that the hills of home is a a kenning for the grave mounds um and that would be a safe

00:22:37.520 assumption um unless of course speaking to a specific reference to another poem but that we

00:22:45.200 don't really know so that's why i wanted to kind of backtrack to 40 is to remind everyone he's

00:22:52.880 saying like you know you're a stir of strife and you're unwilling to admit all of the pain and

00:22:56.480 suffering that you've brought to us because of your stirring of strife and he's like don't worry

00:23:01.680 about it with a ring in my hand i can i can or a ring you know and some money i can bring this to

00:23:06.560 peace because oftentimes the peacemakers are just as crooked as the the stirrers of strife um and it

00:23:13.600 was a shot at the integrity of lord thor and he then says you know like how where did you learn

00:23:22.640 such like hateful and mean speech and he says you know i you know from the sons of men and

00:23:30.800 uh where they dwell in the hill homes um and and that in and of itself too is like again

00:23:39.120 the that's one little gleaning towards the necromatic nature of lord odin um and in in in

00:23:47.680 And especially in the view of the way that our ancestors in Old Norse saw the gods, because we got to remember that the relationship between our ancestors in the Old Norse time frame, especially during the time that the poems were being written down, is kind of akin to the way the Greeks viewed the gods during the time of the philosophes.

00:24:10.660 The philosophes were trying to decrease the religiosity of the priests at the time.

00:24:21.520 I think that it could be with an argument that the philosophes did not like the standing religion, and they encouraged the declination of belief in the gods.

00:24:33.180 And that's what ultimately led to the dramas that were being, um, kind of spread about and how they change from a divine nature to almost like a soap opera, um, or you, you hemorrize, you know, uh, dramatics that were meant to catch and, and were oftentimes very bombastic and, and strange.

00:24:55.880 And so when people, especially like when I find with like Christians or they'll say like, well, how can you do this when your God does that or does this?

00:25:07.220 And they're usually referring to these little snippets in in the lore.

00:25:11.260 And it's too much to say, like, well, you don't understand, like this time frame and there was a declination in the faith or that the faith was changing or had already been, you know, cut into a well with a well organized church from from Rome.

00:25:29.300 And there wasn't anything, you know, to facilitate against it in an organized sense, which, again, is another argument for organizing Ausatru and why we do that.

00:25:42.080 But the way that we know our ancestors looked at Lord Odin and Lord Thor and Lord Tyr differently than, say, the Old Norse by the 12th to 13th and 14th century is pretty clear in the way that they kind of attach them or paint them into these

00:26:12.080 um, poetic models, a stir of strife and, and so on and so forth. Or, uh, again, uh, the big one

00:26:20.920 was about Thor being, uh, both strong and wise and was kind of always played on the idea that

00:26:28.440 there's, there's far more wisdom behind the strength. And sometimes you see one story where

00:26:33.560 he's just blatantly strong and not very wise. And then others where you see him as clearly wise and

00:26:39.020 very strong so um yeah i think this is what's going on here and we have to be careful with

00:26:47.340 that in our faith and understanding that when we read things like we're coming to it eventually

00:26:51.660 we're coming to the locus sana and other things like that i really think that as an also true

00:26:58.300 uh believer and person that we have to understand that these poems too were starting to

00:27:04.140 get changed based off of the way that the folks viewed the gods um and that these that's why

00:27:13.500 these aren't holy books they are kept around i think by divine um uh will that they were kept

00:27:22.940 for a reason but the the actual every single line was not um dictated by the holy icer

00:27:31.580 And you really, really start to see it in a lot of these, uh, poems. Um,

00:27:39.900 so the last here, uh, uh, in 45, Thor speaks back, a name full good

00:27:48.260 to heaps of stones thou givest when thou callest them hills of home. So you're doing,

00:27:58.000 you're this is kind of again a reference to the strife building you're you're giving it a good

00:28:05.700 name for the very thing that caused them to be buried which was the stirring of your strife

00:28:12.320 is again the the ultimate meaning of this um exchange these insults so you you you you paint

00:28:22.700 a colorful word when you're the source of the reason why they have found these homes

00:28:26.720 um let's see we're moving to 45 or 46

00:28:34.400 harbarth returns of such things speak i so and uh i remember or sorry we were we were talking

00:28:47.360 about this in the um previous episode is that this poem is chaotic in its um

00:28:58.640 organization it doesn't follow poetic meter very well at all it does in stanzas

00:29:04.880 with blurbs in between of just simple little remarks so the again these retorts um

00:29:14.000 Um, you know, in essence, he's saying, uh, I, well, at least I can speak eloquently.

00:29:22.020 So the return on 46 of such things I speak, speak, I, so is that I, I do speak of eloquence.

00:29:31.760 And that's kind of, again, a hidden insult that I, that he has the ability to, um,

00:29:38.640 and then thor retorts he says in 47 ill for thee comes thy keenness of tongue

00:29:48.980 if the water i choose to wade louder i wean than a wolf thou would cryest if a blow of my hammer

00:29:58.140 thou hast so again i have the ability to speak eloquently is what harbarth says in 46 and he

00:30:06.300 he says you know ill and and doom comes from a keen tongue and if i if i waded across i wouldn't

00:30:14.860 have to use words and and and your elegant words would be replaced with the yowling of a wolf

00:30:20.560 in injury

00:30:22.340 so that's kind of an interesting one too i really like that is like you know keenness of tongue gets

00:30:30.080 you nowhere um if you're or it's kind of like i think what is it mike tyson said everyone has a

00:30:34.980 plan until they're hitting the nose, I think is the term, or hit in the face. And that's

00:30:42.260 kind of what he's saying. But it doesn't get any better. It starts to get bad. Because

00:30:54.100 now Harbarth is going to attack Lord Thor's wife.

00:31:03.120 And he speaks, he says in 48,

00:31:08.540 Sif, Thor's wife, has a lover at home,

00:31:13.420 and him shouldst thou meet,

00:31:15.880 more fitting it were on him to put forth thy strength.

00:31:19.060 so he's basically saying i i would be he's calling lord thor a cuck and he's saying i would

00:31:31.100 be much more afraid of the of what of the threat of the man that is sleeping with your wife

00:31:38.760 that's that's pretty bad it's pretty it's pretty brutal um and i really think that um a lot of the

00:31:50.920 flesh and and uh meat of the poems that are coming from this time frame especially when

00:31:57.780 we get into details that are not built on on greater cosmic ideas or or visions um

00:32:07.180 is that mortar between the bricks, if you will, really comes from the culture of the time.

00:32:15.920 And you can see that it hasn't changed much in the idea of how to really dig a knife in there.

00:32:27.140 Yeah. So yes, your wife has a lover at home and you should meet him because if you did,

00:32:34.700 you'd know that I'd be more scared of him than you.

00:32:42.260 And in 49, Thor speaks back,

00:32:44.760 thy tongue still makes thee say what seems most ill to me. 0.94

00:32:49.700 Thou witless man, thou liest, I wean. 0.95

00:32:52.600 So now it's not even a retort to insult. 0.99

00:32:55.220 It's just simply you have the most wickedest of tongues. 0.98

00:32:59.460 And, you know, you lie. 0.99

00:33:07.740 And my knowing is that you clearly lie.

00:33:12.700 And Harbarth doubles down.

00:33:15.480 Truth do I speak, but slow on thy way thou art.

00:33:20.920 Far hadst thou gone, if now in the boat thou hadst fare.

00:33:26.940 so in essence this you've stopped to trade barbs with me imagine how far you would have been

00:33:35.500 if you had just kept your trap shut and uh you know had your own boat or

00:33:41.820 or i had given you a ride or you know crossed somewhere else um

00:33:50.140 um it's like i said this is it's just brutal it's uh um so we're in 51 and thor returns he says

00:34:06.620 thou womanish harbarth so here uh actually that's a great point i wanted to to bring in

00:34:17.500 there the usage of this um translation um to the word ragi it's r-a-g-i and i know some of the folks

00:34:27.740 might be um looking up as well um let me see here um

00:34:47.500 Let me see. We have some interest. So like ragather means like ragged or raggy. So this translation of womanish, I think, is an interesting, you know, usage of word.

00:35:11.900 And I think this might actually be on bellows, because looking at cowardice, ragmali, it's ignominious, or charging one with being weak.

00:35:33.800 um and i think that it's worth noting that the word uh ragi um i don't know if outside of perhaps 0.98

00:35:43.700 the sources i have there might be some lending to it being used somewhere else in the sense that

00:35:50.840 it's talking about um him being a womanish in the sense of um i guess not a not a brave man

00:36:02.260 but the the the term um uh ragi tends to seem more of uh weak cowardly or raggedy again and

00:36:19.160 that was used before so um so thor speaks that womanish harbarth here has thou held me too long

00:36:29.600 And Harbarth retorts in 52, I thought not ever that Alsathor would be hindered by a ferryman thus from faring.

00:36:41.620 And Thor retorts in 53, he says, one counsel I bring thee now.

00:36:48.200 Row hither thy boat, no more of scoffing, set Magni's father across.

00:36:54.940 So let's set everything aside.

00:36:57.000 You bring that boat here.

00:36:59.600 and uh and and there will be no trading of barbs you can take me across harbar speaks

00:37:06.480 from the sound goes hence the passage thou hast not so the sound being like um the usage of the

00:37:14.320 word sound as in a bay or uh a river or a large river um you know he's basically saying and it

00:37:25.680 It still remains that from this, from this body of water, you'll have no way across.

00:37:35.920 So then he returns.

00:37:37.800 Well, then in 55, the way now show me since thou hast, thou takest me not over the water.

00:37:44.160 So point me in the direction of where I can cross since you refuse to ferry me over.

00:37:55.680 And Harbarth speaks in 56.

00:37:59.460 To refuse it is little, to fare it is long.

00:38:04.500 A while to the stock and a while to the stone.

00:38:08.560 The road to thy left till Verlund thou reaches.

00:38:13.100 And there shall Fjörgen, her son Thor, find.

00:38:17.560 And the road of her children she shows him to Odin's realm.

00:38:22.840 Um, so a couple of interesting points in this one. Um, again, the reference to Verland is, um,

00:38:36.760 you know, kind of generally seen as, uh, a possibility alluding to another, um,

00:38:43.540 uh, story. Uh, some people take it as to be the, the, the land of men. Um,

00:38:48.900 And I think that the translation is also kind of odd because I wonder if the usage of the word

00:39:00.880 as opposed to would make a different meaning, meaning like the way and the strength of the way

00:39:12.220 or the holy like a holy land um and of course he refers to this as odin's realm um another point

00:39:21.180 that i'd like to bring up is fjordin fjordgin and yard are two interchangeable names

00:39:31.500 for the oust veneer of the earth she is referred to as by snorri as a jotin whether or not she was

00:39:40.700 viewed that way perhaps by the continental germans during the roman age is speculative um

00:39:50.300 however it is again worth noting that the uh the people that try to say that uh that

00:40:00.060 the lady frigga is yard or is um just is the the the elder or the mother of thor in relation to

00:40:14.060 this this kind of points it in another direction it says that no because she is born from fjord

00:40:22.060 that uh frigga is born of from the earth as well so um

00:40:30.060 This takes a lot of that hypostasis-ing that people do and kind of dissects that down and says, no, that's clearly not it.

00:40:40.940 Now, there are, of course, masculine versions of the name Fjörgin, but here it's clearly connecting to his mother, who is Fjörgin.

00:40:52.920 um and so it's it's interesting when people talk about lady frigga she is also born of fjord

00:41:01.240 um and i guess like when you get caught up in a lot of the semantics of of the old norse family

00:41:10.840 lineal patronaging that they they really really cleared of um you know people get

00:41:18.600 all kind of twisted up about that and so they end up changing the lore in order to fit

00:41:25.820 the the narrative and that i think is a dangerous uh point to go so all right now i have

00:41:33.460 i have sat silently for a lot of stanzas here because i don't think there's really need to

00:41:39.820 bust in but on this one um to kind of follow along on what swan was just mentioning

00:41:47.560 again we come back to a really common theme on this program but it's common on here because

00:41:54.320 i think it's very important um if your goal is to examine the eddas as early medieval

00:42:10.000 storytelling then yeah you have to make all the pieces fit and you have to draw a clear

00:42:17.100 pictures of you know who the father is who the mother is you know who sits in what seat on their

00:42:24.700 way to soccer practice or whatever in the minivan and this isn't this isn't that um our lore is an

00:42:34.540 attempt to understand the beyond our grasp grandeur of divinity the mating of divinity isn't

00:42:51.660 like humans it's well yeah it's not

00:42:55.340 you know it's not odin and the wife sitting on the couch watching love on the spectrum or whatever

00:43:05.940 it's the mating and the pairing of divine forces of the earth and of consciousness to produce

00:43:17.760 other divinity to further the creative forces in the universe and again all of that sounds

00:43:29.420 like gobbledygook so we boil it down to something we do understand and we liken it to relationships

00:43:35.340 we are familiar with but don't don't be misled our attempts to distill it to something that

00:43:43.280 our minds can comprehend better doesn't limit what the gods do. We are limited by our ability

00:43:51.080 to comprehend. We don't force the gods to fit the story arcs that we learned in ninth grade

00:44:00.700 English class. We do those things to better understand the greatness of our gods. And it's

00:44:08.360 important to realize that we get wrapped up in the imagery because the imagery strikes a chord

00:44:13.880 in our soul it's beautiful to us and it's something that we know how to relate to on a emotional

00:44:21.240 and primal level because we have that in our history we have that in our understanding of the

00:44:26.280 world i'm under no illusion that you know if by the benevolence of our isere that

00:44:39.400 ice have some glimpse of asgard one day that it's you know going to be

00:44:45.480 wood shingled viking age you know long houses and people in chain mail and axes and swords

00:44:55.560 i think it's much greater than that but the imagery of that speaks to our soul and it speaks

00:45:00.200 to the deeper truth of the glory that that is it's likely going to look very very different

00:45:08.600 and be very very different when we understand it that's why with continued practicing of the gift

00:45:15.160 cycle and continued ability to see past the window dressing of the lore and into the greater truths

00:45:24.920 of it hopefully we come to a better and more perfect understanding but it's very easy to get

00:45:32.600 lost down these rabbit holes of trying to connect a fluid story through the various poetry on our

00:45:39.960 lore some of which was written to instruct poets some of which was lit written to be entertaining

00:45:46.200 in a lord's hall some of which was you know a faithful representation of um oral tradition over

00:45:54.040 time and some are many of those things combined so don't get caught up in the detail see the bigger

00:46:04.360 picture and the tapestry that's being laid out before you and that's the challenge for all of us

00:46:12.440 yeah there's certain things too that when when i kind of um bridge gaps or see an under

00:46:23.800 inspection and the kind of looking into things i i you know i would put forth for a lot of the

00:46:30.520 viewers too to remember that um lord odin is is one but he is also three and the idea of this

00:46:40.680 dynamicism between himself as an as a divine being um i've always kind of taken the birthing

00:46:50.200 of the children of lord odin um in specifics to thor balder and valley um in relation to

00:47:00.120 the the the tripartite within the tripartite that is lord othen um is an interesting kind of

00:47:09.160 um consideration but yeah if you overanalyze it to the point where it's

00:47:14.120 it becomes almost marvel-esque when people try to say well if that's his mom and that's

00:47:20.760 the half-sister of the brother and it gets a little gets a little wild um and again these

00:47:28.840 These are the kind of people that try to utilize the usage of the word race in relation to like the Jotuns and the Aesir as if they're some completely different race.

00:47:42.200 But again, you know, you see that the linkage there elsewhere throughout the lore.

00:47:48.060 But again, I don't I don't think that I mean, it's worth noting that our our continental Germanic ancestors looked at the gods almost without a lot of the interacting and exchanges that these stories have and that these may have developed because of coming and understanding certain stories that were passed on, but became more intricate and with a lot more flair and flavor to entertain the crowd.

00:48:17.360 to exude the kind of the way that the gods

00:48:22.760 are perceived by our ancestors.

00:48:25.040 And then they're given word to really, really emphasize it.

00:48:29.980 So this is, I think a good time to address

00:48:40.040 at least one of the questions,

00:48:41.280 the most recent question that comes up

00:48:43.100 because it's relevant to what we're talking about.

00:48:46.220 Thrillmage14, question, is it possible that parts were tampered with to make Odin sound

00:48:53.220 like Loki as propaganda, or one vid I saw said Harbarth could also be Loki, if only

00:49:01.240 Odin calls himself Harbarth, it defeats the purpose.

00:49:08.460 So, yeah, I've heard that too, and I think, I've heard that theory put out there, and

00:49:20.260 I think again it gets lost in the details.

00:49:28.000 What we want to do is read this all as if we had a Norse Moses that went up on, I don't

00:49:44.460 know, pick a mountain in Norway and received holy writ from the gods or a Norse Muhammad

00:49:56.180 that went in the cave and the gods took his hand and wrote stuff that's not what this is

00:50:02.400 it's the closest thing we have to that and we're very blessed to have it but that's not what this

00:50:10.780 is so i believe that there's absolutely intervention of the isere to help preserve this

00:50:24.360 for our folk so we have this to build from and to learn from

00:50:31.560 but also

00:50:35.040 you know there's not a preface to the the edit that says you know and oh then spake unto snorri

00:50:46.740 these commandments that's not how this was constructed very much a way to look at this

00:50:55.140 isn't an actual occurrence between odin and thor but if you were a poet writing a story

00:51:04.980 hey it'd be cool if odin got in a flighting contest with thor well if that happened what

00:51:10.100 What stuff would they say to each other?

00:51:12.620 Some stuff, like the Vlhospal, is very much written as a conveyance of lore.

00:51:19.300 Other things, and this is the understanding and is the foreword written by Snorri, is

00:51:24.720 that these are to teach Skalds of the day traditional Icelandic Skaldsmanship.

00:51:33.740 The flighting is a common motif in Skaldsmanship that you need to be familiar with.

00:51:38.660 you take characters and stories that are commonly known and you insert them into a for instance

00:51:48.500 and i think that that's very likely a situation with this i think that's possibly likely in

00:51:54.500 the flighting of loki as well some of these are written for entertainment

00:52:00.500 the truths and the important things of this are the bits of lore that find their way in there

00:52:07.860 This assumes that the audience is familiar with Odin. It also assumes the audience is familiar

00:52:14.420 with Thor. It assumes that the audience is familiar with these different points of reference

00:52:23.380 in their lives and their characters that make this story interesting.

00:52:29.140 I think it is a big jump to assume that this, you know, bickering across a river

00:52:37.300 occurred in a in a real and substantive way i think what's important is to learn from the pieces

00:52:44.660 of the story what elements do harken back to the tradition of our folk and to the understanding of 0.97

00:52:51.780 our folk yes they are making odin villainous in this by him you know being a jerk and they're

00:52:59.700 they're making a scenario here but it's kind of like what svan mentioned with the philosophes 0.92

00:53:04.660 The plays of, I guess, Golden Age Athens aren't a religious depiction of the deep religiosity of archaic Greece.

00:53:22.680 they're using well-known characters in the form of their gods as story elements to engage in

00:53:32.200 comedies and tragedies and in other stories but they're working with familiar themes that the

00:53:39.740 audience understood from that deeper lore so digging into the deeper level is what we're

00:53:44.800 attempting to do here specifically with this poem again others are much more straightforward

00:53:50.280 and lay things out in a much more reverential

00:53:56.220 or at least faithful, I don't know,

00:54:01.460 re-expressing of truths.

00:54:03.820 This one very much seems intentionally comedic

00:54:07.220 like flightings tend to be.

00:54:10.080 This is imagining Odin and Thor

00:54:13.100 in a battle rap competition that's just...

00:54:17.100 and that's the thing don't get too lost in the details or worry about that over much if you look

00:54:26.260 at the detail work all of the points of reference very much line up with uh with odin much more than 0.98

00:54:37.380 they would line up with loki the only thing that makes it seem like loki is him being a jerk 0.80

00:54:42.380 And I think that's, again, it's looking at this in a literary way, and I guess at best an anthropological way. 0.87

00:55:02.160 I think you take certain motifs, and I believe the first person to have that theory or idea about it was Victor Reitberg.

00:55:12.380 Um, and I think that he had a lot of insight and did a lot of really cool things, but I also, he wasn't ausitrum. He wasn't trying to faithfully develop a closer understanding of our gods.

00:55:28.620 he's fleshing out trying to make sense of a convoluted story arc in early medieval

00:55:37.440 Norse literature and I think that's a very different different exercise if that makes sense

00:55:44.460 I know that was a lot I hope that made sense and if it didn't please

00:55:48.720 ask something to follow up if if it was confusing and I think it might have been

00:55:53.380 Yeah, there's two points that I would like to bring up to that as well as one I think

00:56:07.320 with every piece that we've been reading and the introductions and laying of positioning

00:56:13.460 I think Snorty would have absolutely made it apparent at least in the beginning you

00:56:20.700 know, prefixing the poem with Loki pretending to be Odin via Harbarth. I think that's consistent

00:56:32.740 with all the other stories as well in which they show this. The other thing that's kind

00:56:37.020 of interesting is the part where people really play into it is when Thor is saying to Loki

00:56:46.180 that you know are where were you when we were being you know chased off by these she-wolves

00:56:51.380 and he says oh i was in the throng i was in the host um and you know it's the the interpretation

00:56:56.900 of that is like you were in the throng of the trolls or the jotuns that were kind of against

00:57:02.900 us and that that can't be that can't be uh lord oh then that has to be loki uh because he's aligned

00:57:11.220 a couple of things with that i would say it's interesting because the transference between

00:57:16.180 the mentioning of the of the she-wolves and him speaking later about the the hill homes of men

00:57:26.340 and the idea that i think there's a split there is that he was saying he was in the throngs of

00:57:33.060 men causing war while uh lord thor was being chased and that fialfi was forced to run away

00:57:42.180 not that those are correlated together especially because the usage of the word that the hill homes

00:57:48.100 of men um and so in essence i was stirring strife in in the world of men so monk over in the chat

00:57:57.540 said uh battle rap seriously and i wanna yes i was being a little bit whimsical but to give the

00:58:07.300 audience especially the young folks something to relate to flightings were very much that perhaps

00:58:15.940 not to a beat but they were very much like a insult competition back and forth sometimes in poetic

00:58:26.740 verse and you see that a lot in uh in ale saga um very often he would do ridiculous things he'd be

00:58:37.300 in the middle of some kind of conflict and then he spake a verse and it was very much that and

00:58:47.940 i use that here to

00:58:49.780 draw kind of a line between a serious and authentic presentation of myth versus entertaining

00:58:59.940 interchange between stories and motifs that the audience is familiar with

00:59:05.300 and i think that's kind of a dynamic that's at play here uh and i would i would hearken to

00:59:11.220 real mage to also we made reference i don't know if you saw the last uh episode of that we were

00:59:16.980 uh covering harvard is that i i made an inclination towards there is a commonality in this

00:59:24.820 poem specifically to a slavic tradition or story of perun going against valis and

00:59:36.580 the the divinity struggle there as well and i think that this has already been this was kind

00:59:42.420 of again brought in or influenced by um in that and i i don't think that and i i think that's

00:59:49.700 probably another reason why loki isn't present or alluded to in the story by snorty is because

00:59:57.300 this poem may have had its older reaches and loki is scant if not completely non-existent outside

01:00:07.620 of the scandinavian spectrum so uh all right so i go i go on these especially for whatever reason

01:00:21.460 the last couple of episodes so we will shift back over to swans presenting the lord

01:00:30.980 um oh sorry i backed out real quick for um

01:00:35.540 Um, let's see here. Uh, we were on 56, I believe, or no, no 57. So this, this exchange here is kind

01:00:48.340 of, uh, gets lost in the idea that it kind of becomes an exchange in the mundane sense of like

01:00:55.960 a traveler to a ferryman. Uh, because Harbarth points in the direction and he says, you know,

01:01:04.480 that thou will reachest their land.

01:01:08.700 And I also, you know, in the Arna,

01:01:12.280 the Arna Magnean codex, it's referred to as Val land,

01:01:17.560 which would also have a better point, I guess,

01:01:22.640 with the relation to Odin and the souls and choosing.

01:01:26.060 But Thor says, may I come so far in a day?

01:01:29.900 Will I reach it within the day?

01:01:31.560 and Harbar says with toil and trouble perchance

01:01:35.900 while the sun still shines or so I think

01:01:38.460 you could get there if you hustle

01:01:41.040 and then Thor speaks out short now shall be our speech

01:01:46.560 for thou speakest in mockery only

01:01:48.780 the passage thou gave me not shall I pay thee

01:01:52.000 if ever we meet

01:01:53.500 and then Harbar finishes with 0.98

01:01:58.340 get hence where every evil thing shall have thee

01:02:01.500 and again this ends it and the um that i think the go-to like theory about this this can't be

01:02:13.340 lord oh then this has to be loki one of the thoughts that i had in relation to perhaps say

01:02:18.680 a meta narrative of this is that many a times do we see lord odin staving off the end of things

01:02:28.360 end of the gods

01:02:31.860 in Ragnarok he's doing

01:02:33.460 he's giving me great sacrifices

01:02:35.180 I would portent that this is

01:02:37.520 another form in which

01:02:39.720 he's

01:02:41.560 antagonizing

01:02:42.740 the gods to make them stronger

01:02:45.720 he's antagonizing

01:02:47.720 or challenging his own

01:02:49.960 in order to

01:02:51.600 gain a better benefit

01:02:53.220 and that's just me looking at it from a

01:02:55.180 larger kind of scope

01:02:57.460 is that just as much as there is good that lord ovin does to stave off ragnarok there could be i

01:03:02.820 think antagonistic moments in which he seeks to harden his folk up or the gods if you will i

01:03:10.980 know that speaking at it like that in those mundane terms as a from a like a humoristic

01:03:17.380 kind of viewpoint but i think that's a trait nonetheless that would have been understood as a

01:03:22.580 character point to our ancestors um but again you you you see it alluded to but very rarely

01:03:34.100 brought in even when he's uh he has an exchange with the holy freya um in that story uh holy

01:03:42.340 freya gives like an ultimatum that you know by the audience would most likely be he would never

01:03:50.180 take it but he takes it nonetheless because he wishes to stir strife amongst brothers so um

01:03:58.740 i think that's again because the the crucible of

01:04:04.900 creating more power within the soul is a and creating more power amongst the gods is conflict

01:04:12.420 and i think that is a huge point to lord othen that a lot of folks forget

01:04:17.140 it so and that's that that ends it all right um so we've got a few questions that are lined up

01:04:34.340 of. First, we actually have a question sometime between last week and when we opened the show.

01:04:52.600 So I'm not sure exactly when it came in. I checked the broadcast last week when we were done,

01:04:57.840 maybe it was preloaded. I'm not sure how entropy works. But it's a $25 question.

01:05:05.140 thanks for everything the afa does how does the afa feel about the declaration

01:05:11.380 of tradition swan are you familiar with the declaration of tradition

01:05:18.900 uh no not off the top of my head uh declaration of tradition from from so i

01:05:26.420 I, somebody mentioned it to me a few weeks ago

01:05:31.180 and I looked it up.

01:05:32.340 I haven't seen or heard about it other than right now,

01:05:37.920 other than that iteration, I guess.

01:05:43.940 Some,

01:05:51.260 trying to see here,

01:05:54.460 I had it pulled up on my phone.

01:05:56.560 There was a couple of different.

01:06:06.060 So I'm working here at the people who supposedly, I say supposedly,

01:06:11.780 the people that are accredited with creating it.

01:06:18.960 Woden's Grove.

01:06:20.440 yeah Wooden's Grove which I don't know anything about and it's some kind of an online declaration

01:06:31.160 of tradition but related to related to Ausatru and I was looking at it and it it looks it looks

01:06:44.120 nice i'm not really familiar with it or where it comes from or who any of these folks are that are

01:06:53.320 you know initiating it or for you know what particular aim it serves but um

01:07:02.200 yeah from what i read of it it sounds you know sounds like like good things

01:07:08.600 um but yeah i'm not really that hasn't crossed uh our radar of much of what we do or or folks

01:07:17.100 that we interact with um it's fun do you have any thoughts do you know anything about these

01:07:21.720 folks no i'm not familiar um i i know that obviously i have my my initial thought was

01:07:30.840 again um you know there was room agent that says the norena society um yeah

01:07:44.600 yeah the uh

01:07:47.880 again i don't have a detailed analysis of it but looking over it it seems like you know

01:07:53.640 seems like good things

01:07:54.760 yeah i don't know that my first initial thought was uh was it some other declaration because we

01:08:03.400 already had you know one declaration um kind of levied well it seems like a very similar thing

01:08:10.280 but this one is you know pro good and upright values as opposed to pro degeneracy so that's

01:08:22.280 that's good um i think people are attempting to claim that ausa true is amoralistic and doesn't

01:08:32.600 have um you know uh a sense of of right and wrong or or what have you we've covered that here pretty

01:08:40.920 hard that we are again very traditional like it's i don't know um

01:08:48.120 um all right well so other questions that we've got

01:08:57.480 from folk builder cope Crawford should all also true folk always carry a weapon in the

01:09:04.680 have them all Odin says to never go one step without a spear because you never know when you

01:09:10.920 need it spawn what are your what are your thoughts on this no you have to specifically carry a spear

01:09:18.840 everywhere you go no um i'm joking um no the it is worth remembering that the halva maul is

01:09:30.600 wisdom set out much from lord odin's experience as well and so the intent there is that it is

01:09:44.000 wise for someone to always have an ability to defend themselves because you never know

01:09:49.960 when you're going to end up in a situation where you might need something to defend yourself

01:09:56.500 um i think that you know that immediately if people say no no no it's it's got to be like

01:10:02.780 a weapon or whatever you know it's like the the reference there you know of stepping away from

01:10:07.940 your blade um you know it's it's not up specifically about carrying a sword or carrying a

01:10:15.800 spear it's about always having the ability to defend yourself because you never know when

01:10:22.360 going to need it and uh does that incline towards the idea especially in a modern age to carry a

01:10:28.600 firearm yes but uh not everyone in other countries can carry firearms the idea again is to make

01:10:38.440 yourself hard to kill and i think that's a really important thing the the help model is about advice

01:10:50.200 it's not thou shalt thou shalt not and i know that when we've read religious material growing

01:11:01.480 up or in the world around us that's very often the case so it's easy to get in that mindset

01:11:08.920 though it's saying it is wise i would advise you to when you go traveling

01:11:15.240 you know to keep keep your weapons with you and keep keep prepared it's a message about

01:11:21.700 preparedness more than it's a specific admonition towards you know the very narrow

01:11:31.240 you know whether you need to get in a fight with tsa because you have a religious right

01:11:37.840 to carry a spear on the plane um that's not that's not the point so yes certainly i think

01:11:46.320 to have them all indicates it's advisable you know to be prepared and if you live in a place

01:11:52.960 to where you have a legal right to carry a weapon then sure i think that's advised that's better

01:12:00.080 than not doing that there's any number of reasons that you may not be able to or it may not be

01:12:07.200 advisable and again that advice was levied in that particular particular iteration of that

01:12:19.120 that truth to viking age people with viking age society works a little bit different i

01:12:26.960 think the scales get balanced different if the carrying of said weapon puts you in legal jeopardy

01:12:35.920 or you know puts you in a dangerous spot or limits your ability to travel people get stuck

01:12:42.080 on those things and we've seen that too many times yeah if you have a legal right and it's

01:12:47.120 you know an acceptable thing to do in your in the jurisdiction you live in by all means

01:12:54.320 conceal carry open carry carry go for it i think that's completely consistent with the advice that

01:13:00.960 happen but we don't advise anybody does stuff that's illegal in their area and just objectively

01:13:08.080 the juice may very well not be worth the squeeze if that's the case but in all cases you can find

01:13:15.280 ways to be prepared for potential outcomes you can keep your head on a swivel you can have

01:13:22.640 you know if you're not allowed to carry a firearm maybe you're allowed to carry another

01:13:26.320 you know, form of self-defense weapon. Maybe if you're not allowed to carry anything,

01:13:31.820 you train yourself in a martial art or another, you know, way to where you can use your surroundings

01:13:39.100 to defend yourself. As a man, when you go on the road, you need to keep your wits about you,

01:13:45.600 and you need to have a martial bearing about you and a preparedness to where you're aware,

01:13:50.260 you have you know what what they call situational awareness and so often folks don't do that and i

01:13:56.740 think that this isn't me trying to water down like keep your sword with you your sword does

01:14:04.500 you no good if you're like not paying any attention it's just giving the other guy a sword to stab you

01:14:11.460 so the preparedness goes into a lot more things than just having a sidearm you need to be aware

01:14:19.940 of who's around what's going on it's one of those things i know a lot of folks and i try to do this

01:14:26.260 if i'm in a restaurant or whatever i try to sit facing the door so i can see what's coming

01:14:31.940 so i can see things before they're coming in maybe if you're you know

01:14:39.060 avoiding getting cornered in strange spots that you're not aware of

01:14:43.300 all those kind of things that kind of awareness you can do when armed but you can also do that

01:14:48.580 when unarmed and it will all do you good and i think it all harkens back to the advice that

01:14:54.260 lord is giving us in the half of them all

01:14:58.180 svan has disappeared on us that's okay i think he will return um

01:15:12.420 so another point i want to make on that and it branches off the question but it it i think is a

01:15:18.580 fair, I don't know, a fair segue.

01:15:29.840 It's important as noble people,

01:15:34.720 one of the characteristics of our folk is agency

01:15:40.400 and having the power to choose our situation

01:15:44.940 instead of having life thrust upon us.

01:15:48.580 We want to, we don't want to always be counter-punching and always be reacting to someone else.

01:15:58.660 We want to have the presence of mind to choose our actions.

01:16:03.620 You can do that when you have the situational awareness, when you are cautious.

01:16:08.740 By cautious, I don't mean timid.

01:16:10.760 I mean aware of the things going on around you.

01:16:13.860 when you see things coming you can choose to engage or you can choose to avoid you can choose

01:16:21.600 you know the fights you want to be in or the fights you'd rather not be in

01:16:25.640 or the situations you know that you can handle a lot of different ways how you want to handle them

01:16:31.020 all too often when you're unaware until it's too late and conflict is has happened to you

01:16:41.140 your options are much much more limited if you see it coming you're able to do different things

01:16:47.260 that's one of the mysteries of RIVO is the idea of seeing the arrow in flight and being able to

01:16:56.080 you know change its course so ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure seeing things coming is

01:17:04.500 really important keeping your head about you keeping your head on a swivel being aware that's

01:17:09.380 why so much of the have them all talks about when you're outside of your kin group of folks

01:17:15.920 who are going to have your back not getting impaired mentally to where you still are capable

01:17:21.740 of being in command of the situation spawn has returned sorry i had to excuse myself for just a

01:17:29.680 moment it's all good i did want to say too um something that we were saying uh if we take it

01:17:36.820 too literal one of the i mean you already see people starting to break the literalism of it

01:17:43.460 when we start talking about other weapons than specifically a sword or a spear um

01:17:50.340 uh or something of that nature the other thing is is like i've i have been to iceland numerous times

01:17:57.140 you know i've been overseas and if the literalism of it would force you like i'm not gonna go to

01:18:03.540 this country because i can't do what lord othen told me to do which is to carry a firearm you're

01:18:10.820 already kind of one missing the point and kind of hindering yourself to the reality of it instead

01:18:16.340 it should be on you know an understanding that you must never just relinquish your your attention

01:18:24.100 like al sergo they were saying it's just that you have to um it's like it's not good i'm going to

01:18:30.340 iceland and i'm bringing a weapon on this plane because it says i'm allowed to that's gonna cause

01:18:35.620 a lot of issues so you have to you have to play that right the other is is if you're living in a

01:18:41.460 place where you don't feel that you have the right to protect yourself and i'm a big um personal

01:18:47.220 firearm uh uh promoter and believer in it um move to a place where you can

01:18:54.980 uh if you're folk and you're living in overseas come to america

01:19:00.340 so a couple of things in uh take a little bit of liberty here i mentioned last week

01:19:09.160 um good friend of mine and yeah that's what i'm gonna do so good friend of mine who i've

01:19:19.520 talked a lot about you guys have heard my bouncing stories on here here and there

01:19:23.560 we go to what we know and that was kind of a crucible that taught me a lot about myself

01:19:32.000 um the guy that really taught me so very much was a guy named Barry Ingalls and

01:19:41.200 tall, tall dude. I'd say he was at least six, seven, tall guy, tall, bald guy. He had

01:19:53.820 these long monkey arms to where he had a reach on everybody. He had a boxing background. So

01:20:00.020 he was a, he was a one punch knockout artist when he had to be.

01:20:04.020 um and he would irritate us nightly when we'd have kind of our debriefing about whatever

01:20:11.320 fights we'd been in or dealt with that night we'd always you know get on our case about how we could

01:20:17.720 have done better it was frustrating but it's frustrating with a purpose because we can't

01:20:24.900 control what other people do the only thing we can control is what we do and we can always tighten

01:20:31.280 that up you know he said why you know matt got hit the face why'd that happen will this do

01:20:38.160 no not this dude you didn't have your hands up you didn't see him coming you didn't because all

01:20:43.280 of those things are things i can work on i can't work on what some other guy did i can work on

01:20:49.360 what i should have done and didn't and the other thing is it was just amazing about him is he never

01:20:55.040 came off you know he never lost anything the closest to being outmatched is one time he got

01:21:03.040 hit but it was him versus four other people he didn't lose he just got hit um but yeah he was

01:21:10.480 really amazing that way but he taught me a lot on this one of the things that he had us do and this

01:21:15.600 is you know talking about training or anything else this was a really simple thing you do with

01:21:19.280 each other so you'd walk around and you play this game where you see if you could touch the other

01:21:24.320 guy on the chest like you walk around and you have all the time in the world to put your finger

01:21:29.920 from wherever and poke them in the chest and if they don't see that coming that's dangerous

01:21:37.120 um you'd be surprised how many people don't see something coming super slow at them if

01:21:43.600 if they're not looking and that was really useful the other thing that was kind of a really cool

01:21:48.000 moment in my life was um barry's the guy that taught me about the thing i just said about

01:21:54.880 having your back to the wall when you're doing stuff and facing the door when you're seated we'd

01:22:01.120 go out to eat after you know after closing down the bar and there's only so many places open to

01:22:06.080 eat at that time of night so we'd very often be eating in a restaurant where people may roll up

01:22:12.640 that we've had altercations with earlier in the evening so barry was the worst stickler i've ever

01:22:19.520 seen on that like he would make you get up and move it doesn't matter when he showed up he's

01:22:25.120 like no that's my seat get up and he would always do this and i knew i knew i'd like leveled up a

01:22:32.880 little bit i knew i'd earned something when one night he came into denny's he was running late

01:22:39.920 for some reason so i was facing the door and he had to face with his back right to the door

01:22:47.200 and he was you know visibly uncomfortably looked across the table he saw it was me

01:22:51.920 he gave me a look he gave me a nod and he sat down the fact that he could sit there and eat

01:22:56.480 comfortably trusting that i had his back meant a lot to me it still does um random side note he

01:23:05.920 wasn't also true but because he was angles i think that's a norwegian name because he was scandinavian

01:23:16.080 um by heritage he wore a hammer but he had i didn't know this he had it underneath

01:23:21.520 you know his shirt but i came to the interview and they do this interview where they'd sit you

01:23:29.440 they set it up to be adversarial so they interview new people on a sunday morning

01:23:35.200 after they've been just in fights and nonsense all weekend they're tired and whatever and they

01:23:42.960 didn't have time for it so sunday morning they'd sit in this little semi-circle of stools around

01:23:48.640 you and you're in the middle and they you know roughly question you about stuff and kind of

01:23:54.240 interrogate you on things i didn't do this on purpose but apparently i responded by you know

01:24:03.520 kind of flexing on them and looking out and i wasn't trying to look hard i just didn't want

01:24:09.600 to be the one to blink first so they weren't going to hire me they thought i was trying to

01:24:15.440 flex on them whatever they thought was the case but barry saw i was wearing a hammer

01:24:21.120 and so he vouched for me just because of that he's like nope you know what let's give him the

01:24:25.360 benefit of the doubt let's hire him and that was really early on in my you know my coming home to

01:24:32.480 house to true and i thought that was a fortuitous occurrence but uh yeah

01:24:40.880 can i i i kind of want to break a mode here sure but it's because of what you just said and why

01:24:49.280 one i think that the stories that you have from that time again a lot of people don't get into

01:24:55.120 conflicts where they're face to face with you know uh even with your friends being antagonistic

01:25:01.440 but there's a there's a question that came in and i think it fits really well

01:25:06.320 with answering the question based off of what you just the story you told us um

01:25:13.200 uh there is let me see i think uh nick said it nick uh so what is the takeaway from this piece

01:25:22.480 what's the point of how bars live and i think with the story that you just said it's actually

01:25:30.320 perfect to answer that question i think that the takeaway really is that and this is again i i've

01:25:38.960 alluded to it a couple times is that there is a antagonism brought about with the intent of

01:25:48.320 making someone stronger it's kind of absurd in its way of thinking uh lord thor in a lot of stories

01:25:59.840 has no issues crossing rivers it is it is very much his thing like um you know it's it's not uh

01:26:10.480 i would see um he he crosses one of the elvigar to to stave off uh gerald's daughter who's trying

01:26:21.600 to drown him and he throws a stone and hits her and he's he's buried deep um he stands at the

01:26:27.520 bottom of the ocean in um uh himr's boat um in uh hims you know so he's he's half submerged um and

01:26:39.440 so the idea of lord thor not wanting to cross a river um it's kind of redundant but i think that

01:26:46.880 the ultimate takeaway the point of this is not only just the tidbits of lore and what have you

01:26:52.960 but i i think that it's the the stone or what is it steel sharpened steel or it's the it's like

01:27:00.240 you said when you have a mentor who wants you to be stronger oftentimes he's not nice and i think

01:27:07.680 that kind of also like alludes to some of the stuff uh just like our interactions um you and

01:27:14.160 me i was here go the like in in the afa like i you often you often refer to me as like the good cop

01:27:22.720 and um i think that if people get the notion in their mind like oh i like the good cop yeah

01:27:29.120 good cop treats you nice but he doesn't make you stronger he doesn't push you he doesn't urge you

01:27:37.360 to be better you know he kind of i mean in some ways he can he's more past reflective the the

01:27:43.280 things you've done are good but you don't stop there and it's the bad cop that pushes you forward

01:27:50.240 that that that constantly hones you into um a stronger more effective person that they believe

01:27:59.120 you can be and that's so i think the ultimate point of harbarth is that lord ovin is

01:28:06.240 in in the guise of of the lone ferryman is testing he's sharpening the wits he's

01:28:18.880 insulting in order to see you know how that's taken um and i think that that's really important

01:28:24.800 i mean we know all the way back to the fact that during the um agoge or goge of the spartans there

01:28:30.880 was a spot where they would hurl insults at the young spartan and it was the way he dealt with

01:28:38.720 the the the onslaught it was very very important if he got if he blew his cool

01:28:44.480 if he got into like you know a furious rage it was seems like a like a failure you you got and

01:28:49.280 i know like in the in the military we used to do this um joke where he's like we'd make this symbol

01:28:54.640 when we broke someone because we were just all day long just chiding this person and then and

01:29:02.720 then if they broke it's like ah we got them so the idea was never to break never let them see you

01:29:08.480 break and i think that that's the ultimate point of or the spiritual point of harba is that lord

01:29:15.920 Lord Odin is not only doing things to benefit the gods in staving off and becoming aggressive,

01:29:27.000 you know, in cultivating souls in the world of men and, you know, cultivating strife amongst 0.79

01:29:33.600 the Jotans. He's also turning inwards and hurling himself at the gods to make them stronger. I mean, 1.00

01:29:42.620 ultimately it is kind of funny and absurd again because uh lord thor wades through river rivers

01:29:47.980 and all the stories and has no issue um you know braining people with missile weapons it's not

01:29:54.140 that's not the point i think the point is is that it's worth looking introspectively every now and

01:29:59.900 then and and taking the barrage and that's the thing in the worst case scenario our gods can

01:30:06.940 cross a river. It's obviously not that, not that, that literal.

01:30:16.300 How's the God of storms going to get across the river if he can't get in the ferry? 0.92

01:30:22.140 That's, that's silly. And our ancestors had the same brain capacity we do. 0.92

01:30:28.220 It's insulting to treat them as if they were idiots. 1.00

01:30:31.020 um so point i'd like to make it's an hour and a half into a program we're out of uh lore material 0.99

01:30:45.180 so it's story time for a lot of this on a lot of things and uh i hope it's beneficial to folks

01:30:53.020 but i think it really is on this um swan's point about that about becoming sharpened by

01:31:04.620 having challenges thrown at you and you seeing how pressure testing people on stuff

01:31:10.860 that matters we live in a soft

01:31:14.700 trying to elevate my language once for you law speaker i'll choose to find different verbiage

01:31:26.040 um anyways people are very weak now they're emotionally weak they're physically weak

01:31:36.700 and just due to the circumstances we live in it's one of the reasons i go on and on about

01:31:42.020 these bouncer stories. It's bouncing at a bar. It's not like I was in theater seeing combat or

01:31:49.320 anything that the guy on the other end of this call with me has seen or countless men before me

01:31:58.680 have seen. So we've got to make use of what we've got. Fighting with drunk people is not,

01:32:04.240 it's not equivalent to the Mahabharata or any of these like epic battling things but what it was

01:32:14.080 was a crucible to teach me some stuff about being a man and about who I was when faced with

01:32:20.300 challenges is why bring it up and I I learned so much more from the times I came up short

01:32:25.460 the times I was on top um it's not that I had 13 guys helping me out and allowing me a

01:32:32.400 safe-ish place to learn about myself and so i'm very thankful for that and i don't ever want to

01:32:43.900 come off cocky or whatever like i'm i'm badass on it it's not that at all um but one of the

01:32:51.560 one of the things and those of you that may not know i uh i recently got my black belt

01:32:58.060 in dancing room jiu-jitsu and one of the big things in there that i think is really important

01:33:05.900 is people who are not used to conflict they're not used to fighting they're not used to stuff

01:33:12.360 in that class you have to get in people's face you have to be touched by other people you have to be

01:33:21.240 engaged in a way that in today's world, we're not engaged in very often. And I think that's

01:33:28.840 really important. It's almost a source of pride, because I've tried to ingrain that in myself on,

01:33:38.160 you know, testing you on stuff. So the other black belts, as I've trained, they would try to 1.00

01:33:44.500 just kind of feel out where I was at on some stuff. So they'd hit me a little bit harder 0.97

01:33:50.580 than they needed to or to make a point they'd you know full-on slap me on certain things and whatever

01:33:58.740 to try to see i think to try to see how i'd react and to see what i was going to do because i'm

01:34:05.220 bigger and i'm stronger than a lot of people in the class and i want to make sure that i'm not

01:34:09.220 reckless or i'm not hurting anybody whatever the situation is but i've almost taken it as

01:34:14.580 sort of source of pride now whenever they take a liberty and kind of pop me i'm like

01:34:18.500 you know thank you since i appreciate you all right you know like it's almost become a running

01:34:26.020 joke because i've tried to condition myself to not react from stimulus but to choose how to react to

01:34:34.500 it and that's really really important and i'd encourage anybody out there any any man but also

01:34:41.860 any woman if you're not used to physically engaging people it can be really jarring if somebody

01:34:48.900 touches you aggressively if you're not in a if you're not used to that it can make you really 0.72

01:34:56.340 uncomfortable and it can rattle your your thought process there's a thing in jujitsu called kuzushi

01:35:03.460 and it's like redirecting your mind and so it breaks people down if they're like really engaged

01:35:10.740 and really like based out kind of redirecting where they're thinking so they're more malleable

01:35:17.300 if somebody touches you and you're not used to getting you know grabbed or you know hit

01:35:22.100 and i'm not saying you know somebody's punch in the face but if you're not used to what it feels

01:35:26.500 like for another person to exert themselves on you physically when that happens it can be very

01:35:33.620 very jarring in a way that's to your detriment so i'd encourage everybody to do something a little

01:35:38.820 bit martial and get your mind in that place at least for a time and doing it over time develops

01:35:45.620 muscle memory and i think that's a really good thing and i think this is coke your question was

01:35:51.220 awesome and i'm glad that you asked it because it's caused like an hour worth conversation

01:35:56.580 but i think it's really important because it's not it's about being prepared and being ready

01:36:02.420 and if you are not mentally ready then the slightest turbulence can completely shake you up

01:36:09.780 and can blind you to better ways to navigate in life and i think that's really important

01:36:22.020 um where are we at we've got the chat rooms moved on to some stuff

01:36:27.060 hey this is something that i think is important

01:36:32.420 Um, so Morris Taylor mentioned this in the chat room, and this is not coming at you at all. I

01:36:49.520 think this is a question a lot of people have, especially because we get a lot of people involved

01:36:53.660 in oustry that are very strong-willed. He says, I consider the Nordic beliefs to be my birthright,

01:37:00.740 and I don't think I could agree with being told what to think, yet I see the need to have a family

01:37:06.320 and community with similar beliefs. So, and I think, and this is just going off your question,

01:37:15.720 I'm not presuming to know exactly where you're at with it, but I think a lot of people

01:37:20.320 may have that concern. It's not that, nobody gets their jollies off of trying to demand that you

01:37:29.580 think the same way that everybody else thinks and one thing that we've tried really really hard to do

01:37:38.220 and i

01:37:42.140 i don't know if it's self-evident i hope that it is i know the people that work with me know that i

01:37:47.500 think this um you know i i guess i ask that you believe me on it and over time if you if you give

01:37:58.140 me time hopefully you will as well nobody nobody gets off on trying to power trip you or force you

01:38:08.220 to think the same way everyone else thinks but what i do think is really important for

01:38:16.860 swan and myself as gothar is for us to be experts in our field

01:38:21.660 you have expertise and like you don't this isn't the same it's an art and not a science but

01:38:30.900 if you call a repair guy to fix your tv you don't nobody tells me what to think

01:38:39.900 no he's telling you how a tv works because he knows and he's an electrician

01:38:43.680 and you might not be it's not a challenge to your your free will or your sovereignty

01:38:50.260 it's trusting in the experts in a field to know about that field and to pursue it and it's trusting

01:39:01.520 people and it's more than that this isn't a vocation in the same sense and i don't mean

01:39:07.780 to lessen it i'm trying to put a concept out there the world doesn't work if everybody is

01:39:16.620 just these individualists that nobody tells me what to do. I'd do whatever I want. That's not

01:39:21.520 real. And first, anybody's free to do what you'd like to do. There may be consequences legally in

01:39:28.700 your country or by the authorities, or if you're in the AFA and you go outside of what we can

01:39:33.620 tolerate as appropriate, we may part ways with you, but no one's trying to force you or strong

01:39:39.020 arming what you're doing. What we are doing is people that have dedicated their lives to building

01:39:45.520 relationship with our gods and growing closer in that understanding and those that we believe the

01:39:52.240 gods have reached back out to to share their wisdom with and to guide and i very much believe

01:40:01.920 the gods have done that with me and i'm very self-aware of saying that out loud right now

01:40:08.720 it's not comfortable i'm raised in the same world you're in i know that it may sound off-putting

01:40:13.760 to people but i do believe it and i want to do right with that gift and that blessing

01:40:20.160 um so yeah the afa we try to lay out in the broadest terms that we can essential truths

01:40:28.560 but nobody's trying to force you to live a certain way or whatever we do have core values that

01:40:35.120 we kind of have to agree on for us to occupy the same space but we try to make that as minimal as

01:40:42.400 possible while still upholding um the fundamentals of what we believe and i hope that over time that

01:40:51.360 you that you see and recognize that but if there's ever a need to clarify any of it or whatever

01:40:58.240 please reach out you know talk on here we'll talk wherever we answer any question you want

01:41:03.840 you can always give me a call and i'll talk to you about it if you want 907-350-8252 call me

01:41:10.000 whenever you like maybe you sleep but i'll call you back if i get a strange call from a number i

01:41:13.840 don't know um but yeah nordic beliefs are your birthright whether or not you know you're

01:41:24.400 interpreting that appropriately i don't know whether or not we're all interpreting it we're

01:41:30.560 all trying to get there the best we can and there's some people that are devoted our lives to

01:41:34.320 um could i yeah please i wanted to um bring up a point too um you know i grew up in a

01:41:46.080 nordic lutheran house which was um it's it's very benign almost um i mean just bordering on

01:41:56.360 them doing it as a tradition, not as an inborn faith. But when I came to Ausatru, I did feel

01:42:09.700 that it was my birthright, that this was in my blood. And now that I've had children and now

01:42:16.220 that I have a wife and a wife who came to the faith outside of this, and then my children who

01:42:24.040 born of it um one of the things that i i always kind of lay out is and this is something that i

01:42:32.360 see people don't tackle all the time is that uh you know there was a time when when my son was

01:42:38.040 looking out at one of our events and i was like these are our people and some people may come and

01:42:44.840 some people may go but these are our people and this is the faith of our people and he was a part

01:42:51.720 of something he understood himself within the world um he understood i it's he is himself but

01:42:59.480 he's also of his people and there were things that he just innately knows and experiences um

01:43:08.680 so the the difference i think and i've spoken about this before is a lot of religions especially

01:43:15.400 the middle eastern religions hinge entirely on isolating you as an individual with your soul

01:43:23.640 and the only thing that you have to be concerned with is the caveat of whether or not you're going 0.99

01:43:28.840 to get to the good place or the bad place and you know there's only certain ways you can do that

01:43:35.400 and that is where i think that source of that feeling you get when it's like i'm not

01:43:39.960 i don't want to be told what to do it's very very different than when the elders or when the when

01:43:48.760 the folk of uh around you are through experience wanting you one to to have a relationship with

01:43:57.720 the gods have a relationship with your ancestors just like they have or you know they have garnered

01:44:03.800 over time um and that there becomes these kind of communal traditions um and and what that might

01:44:11.480 mean there's certain things that influence i mean even the uh the afa with the stoles this is

01:44:17.880 clearly when you walk around in america and you know you see a clergy member there's generally

01:44:26.520 a stole it doesn't quite often matter what religion they're in or you know if you're to

01:44:31.640 show up at a hospital to give last rights and you're wearing a stole most everyone there

01:44:35.880 culturally outside of our folk culture knows what that is and that has significance so there are

01:44:42.920 certain things that we do that guide us outside of being simply told sometimes there's that

01:44:49.080 inclination that if i'm trying to express this this idea uh that i've passed through a threshold

01:44:56.280 um and have gained some uh sense of being able to guide people in a direction uh that stole that's

01:45:03.480 why you know you get a stole during graduation it's not a christian thing at all it's a greek

01:45:08.600 thing um but again it's understood so there's the threshold there's the guiding there's certain

01:45:14.600 things that are outside and then within our folk culture there are things that my children they

01:45:21.320 don't they see other religions as the not their way or the not the way of their people it's not

01:45:30.360 like if you follow this you're gonna you know odin's gonna put you in a bad place no that's

01:45:37.960 not it at all so you know bear that in mind as well um when you accept and when you join in

01:45:45.640 with the community at large you become part of something bigger and that's not people telling

01:45:53.640 you what to do and i think that we just have to be careful because some some individualism

01:45:58.840 is i think foisted on people in order to make them fragmentable to make them

01:46:05.560 not able to build those greater connections um and i think that christianity is a perfect example

01:46:11.640 of that it doesn't matter how nice grandma was it's only matters if she accepted jesus as her

01:46:18.840 savior otherwise she's she's burning and that's because that's that that's an isolation technique

01:46:26.520 and it fosters individualism to the point where you don't gain the greater understanding when you

01:46:33.720 interact with your your larger family and your ancestors and and your gods and and that that

01:46:39.480 ring gets bigger and bigger because the more you do that the stronger you become all right so our

01:46:46.520 next question seeing as it's pride month why do you think society promotes being proud of being 0.93

01:46:54.600 a sexual deviant yet being proud to be white is considered the worst of all evils um i think some

01:47:01.880 of this is hyperbolic i think we all get it and have seen this for quite a while now 0.99

01:47:09.480 think there's a number of forces at play um i think there is a degeneracy inherent

01:47:21.400 in the wolf age and in the chaotic force of entropy that brings things towards

01:47:30.520 the unhealthy and the unwhole and i think that there is a pull towards that if we're

01:47:42.680 not vigilant against it and i think that affects people subconsciously i think there's also

01:47:53.960 i think there's also a factor of uh misery loves company and i think that there is a lot of

01:48:00.520 dysfunctional people out there that are broken that don't want to celebrate or allow the celebration

01:48:10.360 of things that are healthy because they're miserable and they don't want others to be happy

01:48:17.480 i think there's and that same

01:48:19.400 okay i think there's also a uh by that same misery loves company thing there's broken people that

01:48:33.400 try to force you to validate their mental illness and internal dysfunction

01:48:40.520 and i think that if they do that it's a very short-term validation or salve for their illness

01:48:51.400 unfortunately if something internally is broken you can't fix it with something external so it

01:48:58.760 comes up short but it creates an even more ravenous hunger for forcing the rest of us to celebrate

01:49:05.380 their broken state um but that's kind of an illusion and then there is the bigger current of

01:49:17.780 social manipulation people and forces in the world that have power and money and influence

01:49:27.420 are very very threatened by white people being proud of themselves and their heritage

01:49:34.100 because that force can change and shape the world around them 0.86

01:49:40.420 and has shaped the history of the Western world since the beginning.

01:49:48.400 That is a threat and that is concerning to those people.

01:49:53.520 A bunch of people run around in parades dressed in S&M gear and furries and nonsense

01:50:02.420 is a very distracting and destabilizing thing,

01:50:07.100 but it's not something that threatens the power structure

01:50:11.080 of people who have taken advantage

01:50:15.420 and manipulated our system.

01:50:18.300 And that's why I think that is, in short.

01:50:20.960 Swan, do you have thoughts on that that you want to share?

01:50:24.320 I think because one is politically advantageous

01:50:27.860 and the other is politically disadvantageous.

01:50:32.420 You know, we, we see them. It started with, you know, saying that sexuality was an orientation. And it became relative. And then the relativism created a group. And then that group was politically harnessed in a direction.

01:50:55.880 um you know we could get into

01:50:59.640 the morality of it but separate from that i mean i think it's it's like

01:51:08.660 it became politically advantageous and now it's become corporately advantageous and we talk about

01:51:15.060 that all the time we see it on the internet people are you know joking about how these

01:51:18.500 corporations are putting rainbow flags but their middle eastern ones don't have it's because

01:51:23.120 it's corporately advantageous now, but I think the original inception of it was that it was

01:51:29.180 politically advantageous. And again, that's because the MO of globalism or liberalism

01:51:38.360 is that you need to create an oppressed class that will unite based off of whatever it may be.

01:51:46.980 um for a minute there it was about marriage but that went away and now it's just again about

01:51:53.240 uh their sexual desires what they're into their kinks as they you know i hate to use that word 0.94

01:52:01.620 because it's so dumb but you know the thing is it's not though like you have a very 0.95

01:52:09.200 the agenda to destabilize is much bigger than that you know i think very it's funny because 0.99

01:52:18.520 if you ask somebody in a foreign country what percentage of americans are gay or transgender

01:52:23.700 it's like 50 because if you watch our tv every couple is an interracial couple and

01:52:32.960 every hero has to be a woman preferably a woman of color and you know 50 of couples at least if 0.81

01:52:43.520 there are white couples or there's a white person involved in the couple need to be homosexual

01:52:50.080 that doesn't represent the reality on the ground at all uh there's a big movement right now of 0.74

01:52:55.680 homosexuals that are like hey you know i'm gay but this is way way too far like no we're not

01:53:02.720 part of all this other stuff it keeps going further and further because like i said there's no 0.84

01:53:11.280 point of satiation there's no amount of acceptance that fixes a very mentally damaged person when

01:53:20.400 they're alone with themselves in the quiet of their thoughts or at night when the lights go out

01:53:26.720 and it's just them and their demons there's no amount of us you know telling them that no they're

01:53:36.720 really a girl even though that's not the reality of the situation none of that none of that fixes

01:53:44.880 what is unfortunate about the political reality of it is very very damaged and vulnerable people

01:53:52.560 who suffer from catastrophic mental illness are being exploited by

01:53:59.200 political creatures that find it advantageous to support them when the cameras are on

01:54:04.880 but at the end of the day we kind of all know we all know what's a girl and what's a guy

01:54:10.800 we all know you know we all know how it's supposed to be and politically many of us have been cowed

01:54:18.560 into you know you know what you're allowed to say in public and you're not but it doesn't

01:54:24.960 change the reality and unfortunately there's a whole lot of people many of them children and

01:54:30.800 young people that have made choices have made permanent choices that might be a lot less cool

01:54:38.800 in a few years and unfortunately their choices they can't take back um

01:54:48.880 switching things up from the wolf well also from the wolf throne

01:54:53.280 do you feel a close connection to winter do you feel something in your soul when it snows

01:54:59.600 i always get this feeling that's why winter is my favorite season you can take the hyperborean

01:55:05.520 out of the out of hyperborea but you can't take hyperborea out of the hyperborean um

01:55:14.160 i don't know that that is a fair question i do not know that that is my state of you know

01:55:21.200 emanating from hyperborea ancestrally or the fact that i was born and raised in alaska yes when i

01:55:27.840 see snow i feel a special fondness for winter and for snow but that's how i grew up that was

01:55:34.560 my comfort zone when i grew up it was my favorite season when i was a kid a lot of memories and

01:55:40.400 things tied up in that so i don't know if that is a inherent statement on our folk as a whole

01:55:46.880 or just me because of where i come from and you because you're you're a uh well

01:55:54.000 not sure where the wolf throne comes from uh svan what do you got do you have a special

01:55:59.760 water for winter i i mean i think i'm at a again the same kind of point where i'm you know i'm from

01:56:06.320 iceland but i can say i've been climatized to uh hot weather um over the years um where i live and

01:56:15.600 where i've been in the world but yeah i would have to say the winter tidying is my my favorite but i

01:56:21.760 really prefer the beginning of winter when everything starts to turn that is my favorite

01:56:27.360 time of the year um but i do like you know summer tidying when everything starts to come out even

01:56:33.920 when everyone's complaining about the pollen i love it but um you know the winter tide is my

01:56:39.360 is my favorite time of the year 100 when everything starts to slow down and look inward

01:56:45.760 question from finwraith if i remember correctly spawn served in the military i was wondering

01:57:00.720 uh would he have any advice or tips on how to prepare for military service

01:57:05.920 i'm supposed to start in like three or four weeks

01:57:08.720 oh well if memory serves too that finreith is in finland yes um so cold weather training is going

01:57:18.960 to be primary for you um so much so that actually um american soldiers and uh u.s marines go to

01:57:31.440 finland for cold weather training um you know learn from the best um

01:57:38.640 i know they do cross land things in norway as well especially with with um the skis and things

01:57:46.000 like that but um i mean i would say if you're in the what we would call the dep program or

01:57:53.200 the delayed entry program and you're due to go in for um you know basic training the one thing that

01:58:01.920 i would really bestow upon you is to remember and it's kind of again the mode that we've been

01:58:07.760 talking about this whole time is everything that they're doing in basic training is to make you

01:58:14.240 stronger it's not um it you have to you have to reach down and find out who you are and they're

01:58:22.800 going to do that to you i remember um like in the marines you know they would make us carry the cups

01:58:29.760 from the chow hall like this and uh we so we had to hold one at the bottom of the top and walk

01:58:37.280 to our to our uh um chairs and then later on i found out that's how you carry the canisters

01:58:44.400 that hold the grenades when you go to the grenade throwing range so everything kind of has a purpose

01:58:50.960 And ultimately, it's, again, to remove a lot of your individualism, create collectivism, working as a group and realizing that you're part of a whole and that your individual actions don't just affect you, but affect others.

01:59:04.420 and no matter how hard it gets, it's one, it's only for a certain amount of time. And if you

01:59:14.320 really think about it, if you throw yourself into that moment, if it's a couple of months

01:59:18.780 of basic training, you will learn and gain so much more out of it. I saw guys there that they

01:59:25.020 just could not embrace. They could not let go. They couldn't hold on to what they were learning.

01:59:31.400 They just wanted to get out. They wanted nothing more than, I guess, to be at home and lounging on the couch or doing whatever they're doing.

01:59:39.000 So basic training is 100% a time for you to just kind of go all out.

01:59:48.820 Throw yourself into it.

01:59:51.520 And the basics that you learn in basic training will be with you for the rest of your time.

01:59:57.220 Whether you're just doing one term or you're doing it for life, there are things you will learn there that if you forget them or try to expound on them or make them more nuanced and tweaking things, you'll lose it.

02:00:12.480 Everything you learn in those thresholds are important for you for the rest of your career and for the rest of your life.

02:00:22.680 Just soak it all in.

02:00:24.240 I mean, I can still hear my instructors yelling and talking about the way they teach us to iron and shine our shoes.

02:00:32.600 And that's an indication of me being in the older Marine Corps, because now they don't have the shoes that they're like suede.

02:00:42.640 Yeah, it's it's. Don't take anything to heart when you're there, even the stuff that's said to you.

02:00:48.960 Just move fast and go hard.

02:00:52.180 Do everything as if this was the only thing you've ever done your entire life.

02:00:56.160 Like you were born right when you walked in and now this is your whole purpose because it's not going to be forever.

02:01:04.580 And, you know, you'll carry these things with you the rest of your time in.

02:01:15.400 All right.

02:01:16.200 so before we go any further gw farnsworth bought us five coffees thank you we really appreciate

02:01:24.440 that thank you very much um also for sfan morris taylor asks sfan how did you learn so much about

02:01:39.400 the war did you study icelandic in iceland no no not at all um by the time i became asatru i was

02:01:52.040 um i had renounced my citizen or my dual citizenship to iceland um for me it's very

02:01:59.320 important to have both feet in i'm not a not a guy who likes to stand with one foot

02:02:03.960 it somewhere else to in case of the possibilities um i'm not one of those those guys um so for me

02:02:12.520 i had already i was fully american um no no i think i think language helps i i by the time i i

02:02:22.600 lost the icelandic conversational language because my mother clearly said he's going to learn english

02:02:28.120 he's got he's going into school this is only going to hurt him so nobody speak icelandic to him and

02:02:33.960 And I learned from teachers. That's why I don't really have a particular like a Southern or even a Tidewater accent. But the language helped. I think there was a drive to, I was alone. There was no one around when I became Alistair, especially in my area.

02:02:55.460 There was it was just me and the voracious hunger to read, which I think is innately Icelandic.

02:03:03.140 We love to read. So I would read and read and read and write things down.

02:03:09.300 And then eventually I grew into the practice of giving gift to the gods.

02:03:15.000 It wasn't it wasn't about reading and writing anymore.

02:03:17.840 and um my interactions with the divine led me to the to to this to everything um i i you know was

02:03:28.660 i was even also true before i joined the marine corps i was you know also true in the hardest

02:03:34.100 time of my life in in in uh combat and things like that um and it's guided me it's it's held

02:03:41.900 me my the way of my people and i don't mean icelanders i mean arians as a whole um that so

02:03:49.740 that was gone long ago so now i'm actually going back and relearning conversational icelandic

02:03:58.540 from so a lot of books that my sister has sent me i'm also studying in a course um with al

02:04:04.540 sir go the on old norse and icelandic um and it's again it is i have an advantage because i think

02:04:11.100 just my brain and my, my mouth is used to sounding out those things. Um, whereas I think a lot of

02:04:19.180 people don't have that. Um, and just of the lore itself, I think I'm a storyteller. That's what I

02:04:28.500 really, when, um, when I was first coming into Ausatru, uh, I was still in high school and I

02:04:34.900 was part of a storytelling group um and so i would we could choose our own stories so most of the

02:04:41.620 stories i chose were the stories of the gods um it was my way of kind of again keeping them in the

02:04:48.740 minds of their people and um and that was the ultimate reason why i think like lore wise as far

02:04:55.860 as, um, knowing certain stories is because I, I told them. Um, so the poems get a little

02:05:05.000 wonky. And, uh, again, I've said it before me and Alceargo, they don't prep for these

02:05:09.760 shows. So when I'm coming on there and I start seeing some translations and then I'm like,

02:05:13.920 oh, I got to look that up. I'm trying to frantically look it up while we're talking

02:05:17.420 about it. Um, yeah, it's, I don't have the, uh, advantage to be able to just look at the

02:05:23.420 north and say oh that's that's exactly what this means or what have you i don't have that so and

02:05:28.540 it would be a lie if i i told you that um but yeah i would say if you could learn the lore in story

02:05:35.980 form that's the the first step for you to be able to really engage the poems better

02:05:45.340 and that's what i think really helped me out

02:05:47.020 it's fun learned his icelandic on the mean streets of reykjavik as a toddler

02:05:58.620 yes the the gauntlet orange

02:06:06.460 rotten shark and it's a montage little baby

02:06:14.620 baby spawn training up um

02:06:21.500 all right so this is cool we're getting some interesting questions

02:06:29.420 this next one is the most frustrating thing and something that really holds us back wolf throne

02:06:36.060 asks why do you think arian people so often break up into smaller groups ron van talked about this

02:06:42.540 in his book creed of iron he said roughly the quote an arian living in california thinks he's

02:06:48.460 different people than the arians who live in new york uh we see this as a lot of australia

02:06:55.340 especially the scandinavians who scoff at us for worshiping their gods without realizing

02:07:01.340 we're genetically the same race why are our folk like this um this is the

02:07:06.940 this is the augustus like lament that i wander the halls of my house at night wondering why are

02:07:17.420 we like this um i think it is perhaps the greatest flaw of our people um

02:07:36.940 I guess if this were a Greek tragedy, that would be the hubris of our folk, 0.73

02:07:44.580 is the individual, you don't tell me what to do, ism that

02:07:51.780 separates us from greatness at every opportunity.

02:07:57.840 I think that one thing you will notice in common, if anybody looks fairly at the

02:08:03.920 pivotal moments in the history of our folk since the dawn of time up and until today

02:08:13.880 when we see moments of triumph it's when our people choose to stand together and resist that

02:08:24.720 urge and be as one when you see the greatest ills happening it's brother betraying brother

02:08:36.720 it's our folk turning upon one another you don't see a lot in the history of other branches of

02:08:47.360 of humanity versus us and them winning.

02:08:52.440 What you see is us splitting and defeating ourselves,

02:08:57.780 and you see it far too often.

02:09:01.560 I wish we could fix it, trying my best.

02:09:08.860 Something inherently in the soul of our folk

02:09:11.100 that's a struggle,

02:09:13.720 and we've always seen it since the dawn of time.

02:09:17.020 continue to see it today and it continues to hold us back just within the microcosm of the afa if

02:09:23.260 i look at all the people who have come through the afa they all would have stayed the afa would be

02:09:37.820 i'm gonna check on something

02:09:40.780 apologize but i do this to give you guys real-time uh information

02:09:47.020 ouch okay so if everyone who had joined the afa had stayed the course

02:09:57.580 the astro folk assembly would be eight times larger than it is today and that's tremendous 0.98

02:10:09.980 i wish our people could fix that i think it's one of the some of the individualism of our folk

02:10:22.640 i think creates heroes i think creates artists i think inspires innovation and inventors and

02:10:33.360 And some of the really standout great people that we have are based on our inherent individualism tendency.

02:10:44.360 But with it comes a Merckstaff version of not being able to cooperate or function as a unit.

02:10:54.160 And those are the times that we see tremendous loss.

02:10:57.680 we bring you to tears if you start calculating all of the times what if we just would have stood

02:11:09.220 together but we can't do that what we can do is learn from that and vow to not do it next time

02:11:18.640 um it is often uncomfortable to join a group or to

02:11:26.320 choose to do what somebody else says even when you have this gut urge to resist just because you can

02:11:37.780 That said, the loyalty of free men that choose to be loyal to you is so much greater and

02:11:54.000 so much more valuable than of slaves or chattel that just are because that's the way the herd

02:12:02.680 moves.

02:12:03.260 there is beauty in individuality

02:12:08.420 but it doesn't always have to be at the cost of group cohesion there's a right way to do things

02:12:16.480 but as i've said on this show you know 100 times our folk everyone it's easier if everything's

02:12:25.640 black and white it's even it's easier if we are all communists or we are all rugged individualists

02:12:32.260 nobody tells us what to do we're 100 libertarian or we're 100 communist

02:12:40.180 the world doesn't work like that and the path to victory isn't in either of those two ways

02:12:47.140 um finding that balance is the great soul struggle of our folk and we work to overcome

02:12:55.140 that daily spawn what are your thoughts on this um i was talking about this recently and i think

02:13:03.780 it was in conversation about the japanese um and their ability to synthesize things that come into

02:13:11.140 and around them culturally um and i i don't think that's fair to say because again that's

02:13:17.620 an isolated group on an island versus what we're talking about is a vast group of people over many

02:13:22.580 continents um i i just i think our inability to synthesize things and make it about us being the

02:13:33.220 leader of something and it all goes down to i'll if i can't be the leader of this

02:13:41.460 i'm gonna be the leader of myself and flick everybody off kind of thing

02:13:45.620 there's not an ability to synthesize when we encounter things uh when we're going forward

02:13:55.140 and then a new way or idea or things are being introduced nope can't do it breaking off and uh

02:14:03.500 that is i think the biggest thing i see amongst our folk uh it could be it could be trite and

02:14:09.940 mundane. It could be larger. And I think, you know, with some credence to the idea that there

02:14:16.460 should be, you know, retrospection or introspection on the topic, but oftentimes it's not. It's just

02:14:23.460 trite garbage. Guys, you guys gather in a circle? I'm out. Like, it's so dumb. And instead, you know, 0.99

02:14:34.740 of looking at the advancements and the achievements of the whole and what we can do,

02:14:41.560 they're far more concerned with finding the cracks and where they can break off.

02:14:48.160 And they're always looking for that.

02:14:49.620 Again, that's what I was talking about with even myself.

02:14:52.240 I'm not that guy that puts one foot in and one foot out.

02:14:56.240 Like, no, it's both in and anything I encounter, I have to synthesize.

02:15:00.960 And as I've come into the Ousitru Folk Assembly, I had, you know, loner Svan Ousitru.

02:15:09.320 I had even a little dabbling in like kindred stuff and things of that nature.

02:15:14.700 But it's you evolve, you change.

02:15:16.960 And it's like once you're committed, there is no breaking off.

02:15:23.480 It is about synthesizing.

02:15:25.180 It is about adapting.

02:15:26.580 It is about evolving.

02:15:28.000 And again, especially when it goes towards-

02:15:31.160 We have broken Swan's heresy with the iron rod of strife.

02:15:39.160 Well, and it's, I mean, I don't even really think that it's strife or conflict.

02:15:50.160 Like a lot of times what has come about for me is I realized that I'm surrounded by people

02:15:57.540 who have been doing Alistair True for a long time.

02:16:01.300 And sometimes new people too will like change the way I see things because they have a fresh

02:16:06.140 perspective, but I'm also surrounded by people who have been doing Alistair True for a very

02:16:10.220 long time.

02:16:10.780 They have been trothful and loyal and pious to the gods for a very long time and they

02:16:16.840 bring up points.

02:16:17.760 And I think those points have merit, especially when it's not coming from, I don't think they're even intending to do this in a sense of like ownership or commanding.

02:16:28.560 It's just, no, this is the way I have done it.

02:16:31.780 And you kind of look into that.

02:16:34.900 You see why they did it.

02:16:36.540 And does it sing to you?

02:16:38.240 Does it tell you that it is good?

02:16:39.840 Does it, you know, allow you to evolve?

02:16:42.500 I've seen that for myself, synthesizing with so many people in the Ossetra Folk Assembly that have brought my own home worship.

02:16:53.480 So in essence, the collective nourishes my individuality versus perceiving that the collective dampens your individuality.

02:17:06.080 That is a big and hard hurdle for a lot of people to overcome.

02:17:11.380 So if they can't be the leader and they, uh, and they're going to do their own thing and, um, you know, it's, it's, uh, it, I mean, like, it always brings to mind the story of, um, Arminius or, um, Herman of the Trusky.

02:17:28.860 He, you know, he was able to defeat two Roman legions when they were united, but it was fostered within their ranks to start turning on each other and breaking apart.

02:17:41.900 They couldn't unite under one banner. They couldn't maintain. That's partially or partially, I would say 75%.

02:17:50.280 The reason why we and our folk faith lost against Christianity was because of the organizational factor that was brought into it.

02:18:01.460 I mean, it eventually even affected the Catholic Church, and there was Protestantism and a lot of that fracturing again, and it continues to go on.

02:18:10.580 But that good, solid base of being able to foundationally build under one banner and move forward and get things done is the reason why, even despite all the fracturing, the Catholic Church still remains is because they had that.

02:18:29.620 And I think that our ancestors, if we had the ability to unite, if we had the ability to organize, if we had the ability to structure and build successful plans towards expansion and stability and synthesizing with each other, you might be from a different area, but we see the commonality of these things.

02:18:55.500 The other thing I wanted to speak on, this bothers me more than I think anything, is when I do see Scandinavians say, oh, they're taking our gods.

02:19:05.600 How can an American worship our gods?

02:19:08.520 And every time I see that on like social media, I always just type one thing.

02:19:13.220 I type Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. 1.00

02:19:18.500 And if they don't catch the meaning, they're retarded and not even worth the time. 1.00

02:19:23.000 The point is, is that they're so hell bent and they, they probably don't even honor and worship the gods. They're just utilizing it as kind of a thing that makes them who they are. I'm, I'm, you know, I'm a, I'm actually a Viking and you're not the Viking. And it's like, no, that's not the case. 1.00

02:19:43.240 you ancestors probably weren't even vikings um you know probably just farmers and and herders

02:19:51.880 um but it doesn't really matter it's just that they kind of they need to level this whether it's

02:20:00.000 their hatred for the anglosphere or whatever they just cannot see us as being you know having

02:20:06.380 connective tissue and other times i talked to australia and i explained like how much the

02:20:12.540 teutonic branch of arianism as a religion was so interconnected uh like especially in names i was

02:20:19.480 talking to someone um this past week about the names like oswald and oscar and how uh and alfred

02:20:26.720 and how these names you know the the the forest of the gods the spear of the gods os and os and um

02:20:36.700 they were just like whoa so they like the english worship the viking gods and i was like

02:20:41.820 no they were branches off the same tree and they sourced to the same point and so you know it takes 0.97

02:20:50.040 a lot for people to get their head around that but I really I really dislike the Scandinavian

02:20:55.680 pomp that somehow we are pretending to be Vikings um it's really annoying a couple few things

02:21:05.040 I am exactly the same number of generations removed from our, the generation of Scandinavians

02:21:23.740 that broke with the Isir as is Olaf in Norway. 0.76

02:21:35.040 We are both exactly as far removed from those people.

02:21:43.520 Svahn's little side critique, I don't know if it's the case or not, but yeah, the Vikings traveled and they conquered and they colonized and they went on journeys.

02:21:57.680 The not quite so Viking amongst them stayed home.

02:22:00.960 And I think a lot of those genes went to the far corners of the world where we find our folk. 0.96

02:22:17.320 Cool.

02:22:18.300 So you inhabit the land of our ancestors with all these holy sites.

02:22:24.980 What have you done? 1.00

02:22:26.440 we got four hoffs here in the united states us you know poor churlish non-scandinavians 1.00

02:22:38.560 how many hoffs do you guys have for the gods spoiler alert zero 0.92

02:22:46.000 iceland

02:22:49.300 how's that half coming yeah i know they said that they were going to build it and it's still

02:22:56.700 2015 i think yeah no no no no shoot it was before that it was before i moved

02:23:02.000 20 man all right so i got a fact check it's been well over 10 years

02:23:11.180 yeah the

02:23:13.120 after your

02:23:15.400 is a mess

02:23:17.280 it's just a scrambled eggs

02:23:19.180 it's terrible

02:23:20.020 okay so

02:23:22.280 this isn't

02:23:24.300 I am not suggesting

02:23:27.440 that we are more connected

02:23:29.140 to our gods than

02:23:30.620 all those Scandinavian 1.00

02:23:33.280 folk

02:23:33.720 but we are just as close

02:23:39.620 to our ancestors

02:23:41.020 that originally practiced our faith before our ancestors betrayed it

02:23:48.400 and embraced Christianity, we're equally as far removed.

02:23:54.700 There is a lethargy that sets in when it's just something you talk about

02:24:00.140 and you pretend it's yours versus people who really cherish it

02:24:03.360 and put in the time to build.

02:24:06.100 i think

02:24:10.520 yeah the scandinavian thing is offensive because

02:24:16.880 we haven't seen that same movement there now what's beautiful is we have a lot of i say a lot

02:24:26.560 of we have several scandinavians who are members of the afa we have for a long time who've joined

02:24:32.800 us together in brotherhood of what we're doing. That's awesome. I would love, love to have a

02:24:40.260 Hoff one day in the land of our ancestors. That'd be fantastic. I look forward to that day. It will 1.00

02:24:47.380 happen. I just can't tell you when. But yeah, it's silly. Our people could accomplish so much

02:24:56.300 more together but we have a this one i meant uh to or i wanted to mention earlier when spawn was

02:25:04.480 in in the midst

02:25:06.600 part of the soul sickness amongst our folk is a

02:25:12.940 a cowardice that we don't want to admit as cowardice

02:25:20.240 and I've seen this a lot

02:25:24.820 and this has probably been the biggest factor

02:25:27.020 that I have seen

02:25:27.900 in my time

02:25:32.180 my time involved in

02:25:34.280 is

02:25:35.120 people are scared of change

02:25:40.720 when you are

02:25:45.020 when at one point

02:25:49.140 in your life

02:25:49.920 maybe you embrace

02:25:52.140 quote unquote

02:25:53.840 paganism or some kind of

02:25:55.880 alternative religion

02:25:57.280 largely

02:26:00.080 through an impetus of you not

02:26:02.000 wanting to conform

02:26:03.100 and you wanting to be your own

02:26:05.780 arbiter of right and wrong on everything

02:26:07.860 so you can kind of

02:26:09.660 that's a thing

02:26:11.140 this is a strange aside

02:26:15.920 but bear with me if you will

02:26:17.280 there's something

02:26:19.860 about being accountable to someone else. It's the reason for like personal trainers and life coaches

02:26:27.640 and things that way. Sometimes if you're your own arbiter of, you know, what you need to do all the

02:26:36.120 time, it's very easy for you through mental gymnastics and lethargy to make excuses. And

02:26:42.760 it's why I like a treadmill better than I like running on the street. I can set a speed and I'm

02:26:48.620 either running at that speed or not.

02:26:51.260 On the street, you can kind of find reasons to slow down

02:26:55.160 or do whatever you're gonna do.

02:26:57.320 And there's not an objective standard

02:26:58.900 to measure yourself against.

02:27:01.240 If you have a personal trainer or various other things,

02:27:04.640 there's somebody externally that's keeping you accountable.

02:27:07.940 We don't like accountability.

02:27:09.980 We like the ability to get lazy

02:27:12.080 and to craft excuses for ourselves.

02:27:15.900 So if you get involved in this

02:27:17.620 because you don't want to conform with someone else, you know, judging you for your behavior.

02:27:26.820 And then all of a sudden you discover, no, this is a real religion.

02:27:30.520 We're all about judging people for their behavior.

02:27:33.080 That's what a real religious community does. 0.98

02:27:36.860 It makes people very uncomfortable. 0.95

02:27:40.520 Of the people I've seen split with the AFA, that's been the overriding thing.

02:27:44.940 They have a comfort zone of a certain standard of existence, and they don't want to move

02:27:53.800 outside of that comfort zone.

02:27:56.160 Sometimes they've been in that comfort zone for 50 years.

02:27:59.200 They've built an identity by acting a certain way or believing a certain way or doing a

02:28:04.660 certain thing, and if they're challenged to live up to something higher or different than

02:28:10.860 that that's outside of what they've known it's terrifying it's terrifying to the point point

02:28:17.420 that it can really shut them down as people and so they're always looking for a reason you know

02:28:23.660 they're looking for some justification to leave and to throw their hands up and that's it i quit

02:28:29.580 it was all you know it's all for not anyway it was all it's all a scam it was all whatever

02:28:34.540 it's sad that's people who want to revert back to

02:28:40.940 a lower state of being because it's scary to try to be more than what you've always been

02:28:50.780 one of the fundamentals in the afa is it's our job as aryan men and women to be more to do more

02:29:00.820 to live up to a standard and be worthy of our gods and be worthy of our gods being proud of us

02:29:08.320 and it means getting outside of what's comfortable in order to become more change is always

02:29:16.140 uncomfortable but we should always be changing daily to try to be better and more than we are

02:29:22.340 it's uncomfortable so that has been the overriding reason that i've seen

02:29:29.960 that people have dropped off by the wayside.

02:29:33.460 And I hope those people can overcome it.

02:29:37.500 Something I have seen from, and in a different way,

02:29:41.720 different segments of our folk,

02:29:44.000 part of the soul sickness of our people is the same phenomenon.

02:29:49.520 Somebody on here who is a psychologist or studied in that field

02:29:53.460 will know the name for this, and I'm not sure what it's called.

02:29:56.900 But I think all the men on here, and probably the ladies too, but in a different way, have experienced this.

02:30:05.820 We'll find a woman in life that they're in a relationship where they're mistreated.

02:30:12.640 They're abused. 0.51

02:30:13.980 Maybe it's physically, maybe it's mentally, maybe it's both.

02:30:18.680 and you want so bad to pluck them out of that and save them and make, you know, their life better

02:30:25.900 and help them have something better. But what you see time and time again is,

02:30:32.940 no, they go right back to the abusive relationship or they find a brand new abusive relationship

02:30:41.660 because at that point in their life, that's where they've established what's comfortable.

02:30:48.680 It may not be pleasant, but they know what to expect. They know how it works. They know the routine. That's what's normal to them instead of wanting something better. And it, it's soul crushing to see that, especially if you care about someone.

02:31:07.320 but the truth is you can't save them if they don't want to be saved you can't help people

02:31:16.860 if they haven't made the determination within themselves that they want something better

02:31:21.900 or they keep going back to what's comfortable even if they know that it's not ideal it's what

02:31:30.040 they know so we see that sometimes and i we keep you know especially our gothar spend a lot of time

02:31:42.680 trying to help break people of that cycle and offer them something better and lead them to

02:31:50.520 something better if they want that but oftentimes what we want for someone

02:31:59.800 is not what they are ready to want for themselves unfortunately and that's been a hard truth to

02:32:05.720 adjust the next comment i see or question rather matt how many years did it take you to get your

02:32:15.960 black though about six six and a half ish i think um

02:32:29.800 question what do you believe is the most effective way in the current political and

02:32:34.920 social climate to convey our message and faith to younger generations ensuring their ultimate success

02:32:46.840 swan what do you got um

02:32:53.160 well okay younger generation of our children that are in ausitru and have been raised or like

02:33:02.760 young children that are folk but not ausitru was that specified

02:33:07.560 no okay well um well i'll start first then with the younger generation that we have which is

02:33:19.240 our own children um one of the things i would say is that's super important

02:33:24.920 to reach out to your um folk builders reach out to your gothar and ask them about um thresholds

02:33:35.400 that's one big one of course to bringing a building a harrow in your home and having your

02:33:42.360 child with you when you do things when you do things at the harrow whether you're talking to

02:33:47.560 your ancestors you're talking to the gods and maybe even start out with talking to the ancestors

02:33:53.560 because children it's hard for them to grasp outside of of lineage at first with the divine

02:34:00.680 sometimes. So yeah, getting a Harrow, setting it up. I know a lot of people were on a big kick of

02:34:07.400 like, how do you set it up? I need a diagram and so on and so forth. I think, I believe that one

02:34:16.280 of the most basic ones I've ever seen was simply a bowl and a vessel of fluid, the mead bottle

02:34:27.040 itself sometimes um but doing stuff at home doing stuff in front of your children taking them to

02:34:36.480 kindred events taking them to the temples if you're able to go to the hoffs um and showing

02:34:42.000 them that this is this is part of who they are this is part of their people this is what their

02:34:46.960 people do um it's not always you know it's not always easy especially like mayday was a big one

02:34:52.720 mayday is very much a community flex if you will um you know when i was alone i'd never attended a

02:35:02.040 mayday um and then as i came back from the marine corps i was able to kind of find these um events

02:35:09.460 and now it's so important you know when you go to a hof or when you go to a kindred gathering and

02:35:15.120 there is a maypole there and there's lots of people um you know dancing and and uh going

02:35:21.540 taking the ribbons around that kind of stuff brings children into an understanding that

02:35:26.740 they're not alone there they aren't this isn't some kooky religion that their parents are into

02:35:32.940 or what have you um no you you really do have to show them this is our way this is the way we

02:35:40.780 celebrate these holy tides during the year um they don't have to memorize the lore they don't

02:35:48.980 to memorize stories neither do you in reality you don't have to know every poem and and what have

02:35:56.420 you need to build the gift cycle with your ancestors build the gift cycle with the gods

02:36:02.100 build the gift cycle maybe with the land spirits too and go out and do things and show them that

02:36:09.540 they're not if you're unable to you can go to runestone you can go if you're a member of the

02:36:17.860 astrofocus assembly you get the the runestone email you can see so many people doing so much

02:36:24.340 stuff and you just show them and let them know look this is what your people are doing right now

02:36:30.580 and you're you know we're trying to do is what we can do the best that you can um you know that's

02:36:38.100 outside of that i think the biggest point is is there's a separation that children have right

02:36:43.220 around the time that they start to hit puberty up until they're an adult and then they become they

02:36:48.660 come back generally realizing the importance of of their cultural faith the faith of the people

02:36:55.060 um combating that really is about having that threshold of a man making or a woman making

02:37:01.060 and then making that threshold um something that is is repeatedly watered through that time frame

02:37:10.420 um that is currently one of the things we are working on right now is hammering out a way for

02:37:17.860 folks to take that and either apply it at home or to have their kindred involved or to go to

02:37:25.060 a hof and have the gothar involved in guiding their children to maintain the course throughout

02:37:31.460 their teenage years because they're going to be hitting things uh questionable times they're 0.71

02:37:36.100 going to be making friends with people that might try to lead them into strange areas of their life

02:37:41.540 or try to confuse them they might go to a school and encounter again bewilderment where the teachers

02:37:50.260 are trying to confuse them and and make them question a lot especially just about common

02:37:57.380 things in nature um and what have you you need to you know we need to have the children um

02:38:06.100 focused when they go and encounter these things. And the only way we could do that is to make sure

02:38:11.260 that we repeatedly invigorate their belief and get them to be excited about that they're not

02:38:19.640 alone. They are part of a people. So I would say, in a sense, the tribal notion is important.

02:38:29.040 Fostering the idea that you're not alone, because again, a lot of young teenagers feel that way.

02:38:34.060 And not only are you not alone, these are your people. This is what they're doing. This is who we are. And, you know, that might even be the child might even go, well, then why aren't we doing that? And that might spurn you on to go out and do more. That's good.

02:38:51.360 For kids outside of our folk, one thing of note is children – I've had children, folk and even non-folk, and I've encountered them sometimes like even here at the house, like I won't shy away from our faith in front of them.

02:39:16.500 like they they this is we're also true and this is what also true people do when they sit down to

02:39:22.400 have a meal this is what you know this is why there's a horn and a and a bowl and these you

02:39:28.100 know there's a harrow at this spot in the house you don't mess with it you don't touch it's it's

02:39:33.040 not toys or they just come to understand it as you know the legitimacy of a people um and then

02:39:41.400 outside you know i've even had um non-folk uh girls she was catholic um she was witness to a

02:39:48.120 wedding a lot of times our threshold ceremonies are a great time for people that are not within

02:39:53.800 our folk to see us in our spiritual habitat in our in the way that we conduct ourselves and and

02:40:01.960 almost every time i've ever seen that they have always been very respectful and um and and uh

02:40:09.080 moved by it they um i remember a non-folk girl that was at a wedding that i was uh presiding over

02:40:16.840 and she came up to me after um the ceremony while everyone was partying and and dancing and and

02:40:24.520 eating and we talked for a good 20 minutes just about um the purpose of marriage and why spiritual

02:40:32.200 unification between the man and the woman are so important and where they find that ground

02:40:38.680 um even though she was a a catholic christian and um you know i was i'm assatru so it was um

02:40:48.680 it was really really good so i think at least always making sure that you

02:40:54.360 don't waver from and make that space for where your what your people do and i think

02:41:01.160 your children's friends or you know some of the kids um

02:41:05.880 you know might i don't know i i'm kind of floundering on that one i just i think it's

02:41:12.680 it's interesting like when kids will say you know like um i've had my children's friends say like oh

02:41:18.200 you know if you do this you're gonna go to hell and i'll you know oh really um do you know about

02:41:24.680 the story about hell and then i'll tell them the story about uh loki's children and it changes 0.90

02:41:32.200 everything about kind of what they've been told uh i'm not trying to i'm not trying to

02:41:41.240 be treacherous towards it though that's another thing don't don't do that but the idea is again

02:41:47.000 is that they've been told and thought of one way but there's a story of hell in the well hopefully 0.79

02:41:52.920 when they were older they'll find out the truth that the you know the judaic religion and the

02:41:58.200 subsect that is christianity doesn't have hell it has ghana they may never ever find that out but

02:42:05.160 you know you just hold your ground and show uh yourself as an alternative through deeds

02:42:14.760 yes that was a really long no uh okay but truly i think that

02:42:22.680 a couple of things first laurie if you're still here i want to say hi i saw your appreciation of

02:42:32.120 the welcome email we're very glad that you joined us um and yeah we'd love to get you connected with

02:42:38.520 folks in your area um if you if you went to bed hopefully you listen to this later if not

02:42:45.800 hopefully i can meet you at winter nights this year um so on this um

02:42:57.640 one of the things that i'm very glad we've overcome in alsatru in kind of the first

02:43:04.360 generation of the first 30 years of modern alsatru

02:43:08.440 there's a lot of guys a lot of guys that would do this without their family

02:43:19.300 um and you know comfort themselves with some kind of like ah well i'll let my

02:43:28.140 my child make the choice when they grow up no that's abdicating your responsibilities

02:43:33.300 But the best things now is that we have families, we have children in our events.

02:43:43.000 Raising your children with this is a real religion that you participate actively and piously in.

02:43:51.740 Builds that foundation and that home base for them.

02:43:57.020 One of the biggest challenges for churches in general across the board is retention of young people.

02:44:03.860 people get wild they want to break free of their parents and go and you know get crazy and go

02:44:09.700 be nuts for a little bit that happens it's common amongst young people

02:44:16.980 but having them have something to come home to that's familiar with how they were raised

02:44:23.940 trying to introduce this new strange alternative religion to them when they're

02:44:29.460 young adults. No, you missed the boat. Do this when they are children. Bring them up in our

02:44:37.120 tradition with the touchstones of our lower, our celebrations, our family, our community.

02:44:46.520 That gives them something to come home to. Also, live by example. It's the biggest thing we can do

02:44:53.920 affect anybody is demonstrate through the way we live our life that this is real to us it is serious

02:45:01.440 and that we are pious people participating in our faith if you actively participate in this

02:45:10.020 in a pious way the iser will go a long way to help instill this and make things work but you

02:45:18.280 have to do your part. And your part is living piously. This can't just be something cool that 0.73

02:45:25.280 you do with your white power homies on the weekend. No, this has to be a real thing that 0.96

02:45:33.020 you believe. This is a religion. Anyone who this is some kind of, I don't know, some kind of add

02:45:42.920 on to their political ideology that's not what this is this is a sincere religious faith we have

02:45:49.960 people who are of a variety of different political ideologies that share some commonality but no this

02:45:57.320 is our religion and we believe it if your children see that you believe it that will go a long way

02:46:05.640 that's the best i can suggest um wolf throne asks i've been listening to

02:46:15.720 oh no before i do that i saw some conversation over in the side chat when i mentioned that

02:46:21.080 people are scared to change i saw folks in the the side chat that are seem kind of uncomfortable with

02:46:27.640 that um and talking about various it's not a fear of changing these are fundamental things or

02:46:36.840 whatever no it absolutely is a fear of changing i've seen it with my own eyes a lot nobody asks

02:46:43.640 people to alter their their core values but very often people internalize and get hard-headed on

02:46:52.200 their comfort zone and they elevate their comfort zone to some kind of righteousness

02:47:00.700 that it doesn't have in order to avoid challenging themselves to become more to become better

02:47:08.960 and i've seen this a lot and it's a very very common thing amongst our folk but no

02:47:15.260 Well, we can all do better when you find yourself with your heels dug in on small principles of some kind of misguided youth gang mentality or whatever people find themselves in.

02:47:36.740 No, we can be better.

02:47:39.880 It's our task in life to be noble.

02:47:43.080 And that means becoming more than we are.

02:47:45.260 being the very best version of ourselves, and that is always scary. We should always change

02:47:53.140 every single day because none of us are perfect, and we always want to tweak what we are doing to

02:47:58.880 be a little bit more perfect than what we did yesterday. Every single one of us should do that,

02:48:04.960 and if you're not willing to, that should shine a light on some things that you may need to work on

02:48:13.300 and not be that should be a red flag to you about how you perceive the world

02:48:18.940 because we all have things we need to do to grow and become closer to

02:48:23.800 our full potential so the next question is i've been listening to some alexander red mills

02:48:31.540 audiobooks i just wanted to know if you could clarify for me what he means by our father spirit

02:48:37.940 in God

02:48:38.800 yeah and it's not as

02:48:42.040 you know

02:48:43.080 deep or poetic as I'd like it to be

02:48:46.360 Alexander Redmills

02:48:48.100 was at a stage in modern

02:48:50.120 where he couldn't

02:48:52.380 quite break free

02:48:54.260 of a lot of 0.99

02:48:56.300 the trappings of Christianity

02:48:57.840 and he didn't have

02:48:59.960 the same access to

02:49:01.840 lore and materials that we do today

02:49:04.300 and so

02:49:06.400 So, Alexander Rudd Mills' practice was very much a first steps at breaking away from Christian tradition and reinterpreting or reintegrating himself into our native faith and our native religion.

02:49:31.020 and that comes in phases and can be kind of uncomfortable so you see a incongruent and 0.61

02:49:40.500 uncomfortable marrying of like trying to retract monotheistic Christianity from a Jewish lens

02:49:55.260 and put it into a Norse, and in his case, a specifically English lens. 0.73

02:50:04.000 And it's a process of slowly shedding layers of Jewish Christianity

02:50:15.340 off of the concept of the divine and reintegrating divinity

02:50:24.660 into our polytheistic religion.

02:50:28.700 And I think that's a big part of it.

02:50:32.600 He was still in a phase where

02:50:35.480 he conceived of God in a

02:50:42.500 like monotheistic God sense,

02:50:47.580 but maybe that God wasn't the Jewish Yahweh.

02:50:51.500 Maybe it was Odin because Odin's the all father.

02:50:54.660 And so that's kind of the idea of seeing that Father Spirit in that conception of divinity.

02:51:02.740 And it wasn't perfect, and that's what I mean about change.

02:51:06.920 But it was a step towards perfection.

02:51:09.980 It was a step away from degeneracy and towards our gods and towards our faith. 0.92

02:51:15.940 And it was a fundamental shift in the world in which he lived to move away from that towards a better relationship with the Aesir. 0.94

02:51:26.320 And I think that's what that represents, very honestly. 0.91

02:51:32.100 Svon, do you have any other insight on that?

02:51:34.380 No, I think that it's just worth noting that much of the way, there's a reason why we look at Christianity as being at its core, Middle Eastern or Semitic.

02:51:50.400 But you have to scratch through the surface.

02:51:53.140 And one of the big things on that surface is European or folk expression to the divine.

02:52:00.620 And there's a commonality between us and them in that area, in that crust of, you know, giving thanks.

02:52:10.100 um uh uh kind of just bringing up the the thing that you had said um last call or last um sorry

02:52:21.280 last uh episode about the englishman who was you know upset that the you know the evil pagans were

02:52:30.240 you know bedecking their temples and giving all this stuff to their to their priests and he

02:52:35.760 couldn't, you know, get a penny out of, you know, his Christian brethren. And I think that a lot of

02:52:43.720 the modes of expression in Christianity, especially strictly European Christianity, whether it's the

02:52:50.260 emphasis on the art, or we take a look at the cathedrals and buildings and things of that

02:52:57.700 nature. It's distinctly European. We did not stop expressing our faith into the divine. It's just

02:53:08.780 that we were askewed. Our lens was pushed over to a foreign God. So that transition back brings 0.99

02:53:17.820 with it a lot of things. And I think that expression there is what Alexander Rudd Mills

02:53:24.340 was was struggling with and um you know it it still goes to say some people could say like you

02:53:32.020 know uh amongst the long longer bards lord othen was known as godan and the word go the as god

02:53:41.780 or gods was used lesser than ouse but um that it still maintains and that i think that uh you know

02:53:51.780 christians look at european christians look at yahweh like a like a sky father of a sorts

02:54:00.340 well um but not realizing that that was not the way it was you know long long ago that's

02:54:08.900 the european in them doing that so i think it's important that we recognize that acknowledge it

02:54:14.980 and even foster a return to that because, of course, a lot of folks that come to our faith now,

02:54:23.140 again, are standing in opposition to that. I'm not going to dress nice. I'm not going to do

02:54:27.640 nothing. I want to wear bones and paint my face with runes and have sooty teeth. 0.78

02:54:37.000 and I want to 0.92

02:54:38.260 and elf ears

02:54:39.940 and

02:54:40.600 and it becomes a hobby

02:54:44.800 it's something that they're painting themselves and they don't truly

02:54:47.060 believe it and then when they get old

02:54:48.980 and when they are about to die

02:54:50.920 they'll quickly

02:54:52.880 scurry back in order

02:54:54.940 to you know

02:54:56.480 has anyone watched

02:54:58.460 the cringy

02:55:01.680 meme reel

02:55:04.740 thing past the room

02:55:06.820 from a number of years ago past the rune yeah somebody should look that up if you will

02:55:17.700 yeah i'm just i'm just dropping that there if people want to check that out it's interesting

02:55:21.780 yet no i do not endorse that i chuckle at their existence well um go ahead i was gonna say like

02:55:31.540 these people that that are dressing up or playing it you know when they're older and there's no

02:55:37.940 infrastructure you know like these um these kind of the neck beard vikings um the kind of the cheeto

02:55:45.380 stain uh war paint um you know writing runes on their head with cheeto dust um when they're older

02:55:59.540 There will be no community that they have constructed around the faith in the gods.

02:56:05.560 So they'll grow old and they will, you know, probably scurry back to, you know, save themselves and their souls and go back to the religion of their, you know, over oppressing parents or whatever they do.

02:56:22.740 there is a in true belief there is an a an absolute necessity for us to create infrastructure

02:56:30.280 to create things that glorify the gods to create a place where when when i grow old i want to be

02:56:37.480 able to be surrounded by my folk to be given a proper way out by my folk in their in in our way

02:56:44.600 and to be placed next to a half of our gods all the way through and that's the real thing that

02:56:52.400 think you know you got to separate the wheat from the chaff and what that really is is these people

02:56:58.160 are just playing they're they're usually atheistic or or what have you and they're just playing viking

02:57:06.240 because they're bored there is a current and we start where we start and i don't uh i don't begrudge

02:57:18.720 that but at some point as we mature we need to be also true for who we are

02:57:35.360 and not also true for who we aren't one of the things with the uh 0.61

02:57:41.600 plagians as i'm seeing it expressed which first one on me that entertains me

02:57:49.520 they're just trying to be different than something else they're also true because

02:57:59.040 they're not conformist to all the other things that have a value

02:58:03.760 and they're trying to overlay on something that has no defined value

02:58:08.480 we have worked tirelessly for a generation now to make an established value of what

02:58:19.680 alsatru is expressed positively and not by all of the things that we aren't it's really important

02:58:27.600 so anna knows what i'm talking about on past the rune i think she's the one that brought it to my

02:58:33.020 attention um yeah and it's funny and uh the cheeto dust and mick that's a good one that's a good one

02:58:46.280 we'll throw so the next question which martial art did you guys do and is it actually useful

02:58:53.820 in actual fights or things like mma i've heard a lot not all but a lot of martial arts does not

02:59:01.580 actually work in real fights um so i have my black belt in danzenryu jiu-jitsu

02:59:11.100 which is a japanese form of jiu-jitsu

02:59:17.980 i think that's a really common misconception and i think people misinterpret

02:59:24.620 the martial arts you learn for a long time there is a whole long process so somebody asked our

02:59:31.500 earlier it may have been you I'm not sure how long it took me to get my black bone I said like six

02:59:36.660 plus years all but the last four weeks of that are a whole lot of kata to get my body used to

02:59:48.180 muscle memory of doing certain techniques

02:59:51.660 no kata techniques with a compliant uki or person you're doing them to 0.60

03:00:01.260 no real fight is going to work like that ever but the skills that you learn in those katas

03:00:12.480 will apply to countless situations when you mix and match them depending on what 0.61

03:00:17.680 on where you're at and what you do.

03:00:26.320 It's hard to say, and I don't want to speak out of turn

03:00:29.800 because I've been in a lot of fights in my life,

03:00:36.380 but they were before I learned the martial art

03:00:39.180 that I've learned.

03:00:40.200 So it's hard for me to speak on that

03:00:42.280 other than I can see lots and lots of applications

03:00:46.320 where they would have worked better

03:00:47.600 with some of the techniques that I learned.

03:00:49.540 Again, not all of them.

03:00:50.800 You learn an entire codex of techniques

03:00:54.120 that would work differently with different body types

03:00:57.720 and different skill sets and different proclivities

03:01:00.280 and in different situations.

03:01:02.840 You're not going to do all of them.

03:01:04.540 You should probably do some of them.

03:01:06.320 And if certain openings present themselves,

03:01:09.260 you have a lot of options within your muscle memory.

03:01:13.980 What I have done is in class,

03:01:15.760 sometimes there's something called freestyle that we would do where they're like hey just go and see

03:01:22.840 what works go and you try to do stuff with your opponent and it's not again you're not coming at

03:01:30.820 it with malicious intent but you're trying to resist and you're trying to counter stuff and

03:01:36.240 you see what works and what doesn't I had a couple of go-to techniques that work really really good

03:01:42.440 oh i didn't go through the whole corpus of all the different lists because of course i'm not

03:01:47.000 going to go through that but depending upon how the guy i was training with moved or did something

03:01:52.520 there's a number of different things that did and a lot of worked out really well so i i don't know

03:01:58.520 there's like there's this thing in whatever your martial art or combat thing you do is if it's mma

03:02:07.800 if it's boxing if it's kickboxing if it's name any martial art no that's the best one and 0.81

03:02:13.640 everybody else is just crap their thing doesn't work and that's not real and that wouldn't work 0.94

03:02:18.920 in real life and that's silly and i think that lots of it is human nature for us to do that 0.98

03:02:29.240 we want to rep the home team or whatever all i think most of those things work really well

03:02:36.200 there are some things that are nonsense and you'll see the clips of of those all the time

03:02:41.400 and it's kind of funny there's a whole lot of serious martial arts that are very effective

03:02:46.840 given the right scenario um that's what i got svan what what is your background in martial arts

03:02:55.240 i did traditional and non non-traditional martial arts um you know i think my first

03:03:02.360 the first one that i i started out in was hapkido um i actually traveled to korea when i was 15

03:03:11.000 um because hapkido can compete in taekwondo tournaments and i was being scouted for the

03:03:20.840 olympics in korea there was an america there was a couple american scouts there looking to see

03:03:27.160 who they could build the team on um in that competition um there's a really really cool

03:03:33.160 time and that that but hapkido is different than taekwondo it is not it there's a lot more to it

03:03:39.560 it adds a lot of jujitsu um and judo because of the occupation of japan over korea it synthesized

03:03:48.040 a lot of those um arts um and then i got out of it and i went into um you know i guess mixed martial

03:03:59.240 arts muay thai uh gracie jujitsu added a little bit of jeet kundo and uh you know filipino kali

03:04:09.880 eskrima and knife fighting um that was kind of a very big thing around here there was a

03:04:15.880 there is a guy he's a former navy seal um who had a couple of schools here and he kind of brought it

03:04:22.120 up to the forefront um and then you know just it just took off then in the marine corps you know

03:04:28.840 they have a very mixed martial arts approach they start off with kind of your basic world war ii

03:04:34.200 like chop to the neck gouge to the eye kind of thing and then they move later into more um

03:04:41.400 Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu. And then when I came back, I actually jumped back into a traditional

03:04:48.400 martial art. I started training in Jiao Ga Kung Fu, which just means Tiger of the Jiao.

03:04:58.840 It's the Jiao family. That was a really interesting thing to be a part of. And some of the

03:05:06.140 techniques there I um have used before in other arts that I didn't know were in that art that

03:05:13.480 seemed very very traditional I used them in in um sparring like like in Muay Thai but they they

03:05:20.180 they I started to realize there was a lot of transference between the uh the arts that just

03:05:24.900 different names different ways of going about and doing it and um so I I I think that traditional

03:05:34.360 martial arts i'm i don't know i think there are some that are better than others i know that some

03:05:39.240 people like i was here ago they said you know repping the home team i definitely think certain

03:05:44.280 arts lend to self-defense a lot better and then certain to sport and certain to say exercise um

03:05:55.720 and that i mean that's kind of the nature of it but you know if you're gonna go

03:05:59.400 So depending on what you have around you, you know, I would always say learning how to ground

03:06:06.620 fight first, especially when you're young, because it's so naturally innate to you. I had a very hard

03:06:12.400 time learning it because I had been kind of in a striking martial art. So learn how to ground fight

03:06:18.980 first, then move into standing. And then if you're going with a traditional martial art, find one that

03:06:25.740 isn't afraid to put you under the duress of of defending yourself um i even knew of a taekwondo

03:06:32.460 school around here uh he was it was led by a an older non-folk uh black guy who was like really

03:06:40.380 tough he had kind of grown up in the 70s um in and just like they had like a very heavy fight

03:06:48.860 kind of um culture in their um school and he was all about fighting and it was taekwondo and

03:06:57.260 everybody kind of thinks of taekwondo as take my dough and and kind of the the korean pyramid scheme

03:07:03.120 uh if you will but this guy was legitimately a fighter and a very very tough dude and i got to

03:07:10.020 train under him for a little bit um so you know it's like it is it depends on what what the person

03:07:16.460 who's teaching it makes of it if you go to a school and they're there to make money you might

03:07:21.480 not see it right away but it's there um you just need to find that they make they they focus on you

03:07:28.880 defending yourself and that they don't shy away from it they don't uh again try to get you to

03:07:35.500 spend tons of money buying tons of gear and uh patches and so on and so forth i think that was

03:07:42.800 the the one lesson i learned traditional or not uh if you see the money making in it right away

03:07:49.040 you should probably uh go look elsewhere so that's a good transition into this um

03:07:58.880 one of a couple of cool things thought about as far as effectiveness so transition um there's

03:08:05.600 guy who came by the dojo he likes to go to uh burning man and i'm out here in nevada for those

03:08:12.640 that don't know i'm in the reno area so big dude comes in um he is an israeli gentleman who is in

03:08:23.360 the idf and he teaches their um unarmed combative stuff and some of it is krav maga oriented

03:08:39.440 but his foundation is in um

03:08:42.880 um my sensei's school of dancing room jiu-jitsu and very quickly he kind of elevated stuff he

03:08:54.400 took a number of us aside and we're used to a dojo with you know girls and kids and you know

03:09:03.760 all ranges of people's skills and abilities and

03:09:09.240 warrior-ness or lack thereof and so there's ways to apply the principles and the techniques

03:09:18.740 through all of that you know in a useful way but he was able to take the more

03:09:26.720 marshally inclined and it was amazing when he showed things like he would teach his soldiers

03:09:37.080 that he dealt with because you see exactly that they are arcada but elevated and sped up and with

03:09:45.000 a couple of extra little tweaks here and there that were super effective and it was really

03:09:51.240 cool to see and experience that because he would you know anecdotally like ah and then hamas did

03:09:58.760 this and then i did this and he would show you something that you had taken for granted as

03:10:05.240 seeming very simple in training and all of a sudden he would do it and it would just be devastating

03:10:12.040 and that was really cool to see because you saw the practical application of what in in

03:10:18.280 the dojo environment wasn't shown that way the other thing is that i was thought was really cool

03:10:26.360 about my dojo and i kind of i am bigger and stronger than a lot of the people who are in there

03:10:35.480 certainly bigger and stronger than the little japanese men that projected or that perfected

03:10:42.040 lot of the techniques so it was really the various instructors there would single me out

03:10:52.120 often to demonstrate on me and it showed the class that the moves were effective

03:10:59.880 but it also showed me that and at various times you know they'd ask me like hey resist this hey

03:11:05.720 like try to try to fight this see what you do and they would end up beating me up and

03:11:11.800 demonstrating to me that you know it was very effective and that taught me a lot that really

03:11:16.840 gave me an appreciation of it you do that to this name my uh sensei of the um of the dojo

03:11:23.320 he's 84 years old as of last week and i say that he's 84 years old i would be shocked if he weighed

03:11:37.640 more than 155 pounds um i'm about 250 8245 it all depends it fluctuates he was able to

03:11:52.120 very much pick me up and throw me and and do the techniques to me and that was really informative

03:11:59.880 like it was it's always been really important to me that in a martial art that i train that

03:12:07.240 it's effective so you know you you test some of these things well yeah well what if i don't just

03:12:12.920 give it to you what if i resist what if i do that then i get hurt so it uh

03:12:22.040 no i believe that the martial art i train is very effective a lot of ways a lot of techniques i'm

03:12:27.400 probably not the guy that would use them there's a lot of other techniques that you know in my head

03:12:33.000 in that conversation that i think any of us men have when you drive by anybody on the street or

03:12:38.040 you pass anybody in the store when you have your imaginary fight with that guy there's a lot of

03:12:43.480 techniques that i go to in my head that i think i would use so no i think it's i think there's

03:12:49.240 lot of practicality in in most martial arts if you take them seriously but it all depends on

03:12:55.880 how you train them in your mind if you are just doing your kata for whatever there's silly people

03:13:04.600 in my class that i don't think would be effective at all in a real situation because like we talked

03:13:09.880 about earlier they don't have their head in that scenario they don't have their mind uh in that

03:13:15.960 place to where they're thinking about those things. But that's one of the best things I've

03:13:21.040 found about martial arts. I use it meditatively. So being the Alzheimer's, I've got stuff on my

03:13:29.620 mind all the time. 24-7, I got stuff eating at my brain on just things. It's nice to be able to go

03:13:38.180 in class and focus on repetitive movements to try to do increasingly more perfectly.

03:13:45.960 to make them work and to get my head in that headspace it it's really valuable that way so

03:13:53.440 I'd encourage anybody to take up the martial art not so concerned about what it is just that you

03:13:59.420 keep your head in that headspace the next question go ahead well I just uh there was something that

03:14:07.540 popped in that was in relation to this question um uh I just had it dang it um somebody asked me

03:14:15.120 it was a specific um i don't know who master ken is um well it's right here somewhere asking about

03:14:25.920 master hankins yeah master hankins no it was not master hankins it was it was uh master dark

03:14:33.680 funny um uh but no it was uh jack dark is his name uh they might have been from maybe the same

03:14:42.800 schooling so jack dark is the the black fellow you mentioned yes the uh he was the um taekwondo

03:14:53.440 instructor of that school um very like i said very very effective combat his taekwondo style

03:15:01.440 of teaching was not for sport at all in any way shape or form and i got a lot of respect for him

03:15:06.880 he was a um he was a solid guy and was very straightforward about everything but you know

03:15:12.080 and he did kind of have i mean he was i believe you know he was open to everyone but i think he had

03:15:19.600 his own folkish tendencies towards his people but he was open to everyone and he really just

03:15:24.960 wanted to teach everybody to be able to like if somebody messes with you i'm going to teach you

03:15:30.400 how to kick the out of them you know um that was his that was his modus operandi right there i'm

03:15:39.360 I'm going to teach you how to make them regret it.

03:15:41.800 And that was it.

03:15:42.480 And I can really, really respect that.

03:15:44.020 But, no, I'm not familiar with Master Hankins.

03:15:48.620 And I saw Jason Floyd said, why is it Master Ken, who's your favorite martial art?

03:15:55.960 I don't get the joke.

03:15:59.460 I don't get that, but I do get the reference to Frank Dux.

03:16:03.040 Oh, yeah, Frank L.

03:16:04.120 Okay, USA.

03:16:04.880 So the next question is interesting.

03:16:10.860 Do the gods forgive?

03:16:17.360 The reason that it's cause for pause is I think that the term forgive is one of those weighted terms that may mean in someone's head something different than it means in reality.

03:16:34.880 So, forgive, and it's a Germanic word, it means like to pardon or to release being, release a grudge or release being angry about something or release being ill inclined about something.

03:17:04.880 Yes, but there's condition to it.

03:17:11.240 We're taught in other faiths this unconditional forgiveness

03:17:16.160 or a forgiveness based on submission.

03:17:21.660 That's not the same.

03:17:24.700 So certainly our gods are big enough and good enough that they can forgive.

03:17:34.880 they can forgive slights if they want if it's just not worth their time to be

03:17:44.000 niggling about like tiny little infraction things but the norse the the aussitru concept of

03:17:56.180 forgiveness comes with you repairing what you broke or at least attempting to do so to the best

03:18:06.960 of your ability some things you can't undo but you can try to compensate for in an equivalent way

03:18:15.200 literally paying your debt to society or paying your debt to whoever you've wronged

03:18:23.460 wronged. Do our gods forgive? I believe so if you are sincere in your attempts to make

03:18:33.620 restitution for what you've broken or to right what you've wronged. But forgiveness is based

03:18:41.580 on deeds and on action, not just on, okay, I give up. And that's really different. First,

03:18:50.360 our gods are intelligent and noble beings they have the capacity forgive for forgiveness that's

03:18:55.880 absolutely true whether they choose to or not is up to their own divine will and i wouldn't presume

03:19:02.920 to tell you what they do or don't forgive that's entirely up to them but the concept of forgiveness

03:19:10.680 and housetree is based on first you try to fix what you broke then you express

03:19:21.880 remorse or regret for having done wrong and you ask someone to give you another chance or to

03:19:30.840 accept what you offer for restitution to bring things back to right but that's the concept the

03:19:39.320 The first and foremost thing, fix what you broke.

03:19:44.700 It's not a matter of, oh, shoot, I just spilled coffee all over this book that you had.

03:19:54.760 I'm sorry.

03:19:57.960 Oh, man, I'm so sorry.

03:19:59.520 Let me get you another one.

03:20:01.500 I ordered one from Amazon.

03:20:02.980 It's on the way to your house.

03:20:04.060 I'm really sorry.

03:20:04.820 I didn't mean to do that.

03:20:06.080 Absolutely, you can forgive that.

03:20:07.620 But forgiveness is based on you making the effort to fix what you broke or to restore what you've made unwhole.

03:20:15.860 And that's the idea of forgiveness with our gods.

03:20:18.960 Now, again, our gods are so far above us.

03:20:24.660 Sometimes there's not an easy equivalency to like.

03:20:29.520 if you showed yourself a coward when you were called on something to represent our gods in a

03:20:37.560 certain way what is the monetary value of fixing that that's an interesting question

03:20:45.500 and I think there's probably a lot of right answers to that and even more wrong answers to

03:20:51.160 that. But the idea is the intent, much like offerings to the

03:20:56.140 gods. What is your intention in trying to fix it? One of the

03:21:03.820 things in the oust true concept of justice is if you can't

03:21:09.340 restore it one for one, and you do the best for the equivalent

03:21:13.900 value. So if I were to publicly accuse spawn of something that

03:21:20.600 is not true or not right and then I learned that I am mistaken my path to forgiveness

03:21:29.500 should include hey with the same volume in the same public space in the same whatever

03:21:38.020 I am officially retracting what I accused he is not that person he is virtuous these

03:21:44.920 are his things i am sorry for my mistake and then after i've done what i could to repair

03:21:53.400 the reputation that i've damaged then come to him and apologize and ask for forgiveness

03:22:00.440 or you know see if there's something more i can do to make the situation right

03:22:06.280 but the key to the forgiveness is the rebalancing of the scales

03:22:10.920 um i think that's the best i can put it spawn do you have anything to add on our gods and forgiveness

03:22:19.440 uh no not really i mean i think you've covered it completely the the uh it's easier to prostrate

03:22:33.100 and kind of maybe say the right thing or do the thing you need to do in order to get for

03:22:40.080 to be forgiven it's much harder when you have to do the things to fix it or to let's say

03:22:47.260 that's i think the difference between like say the christianity's concepts of forgiveness

03:22:52.600 and australia's concepts of forgiveness especially from the divine to us is that are you trying to

03:22:59.760 change it with deed um another thing is is that i just wanted to i think you covered everything

03:23:06.800 but also too like forgiving others from human to human um

03:23:14.240 i think it's not uh it's not alien to our ancestors to forgive people again if they've

03:23:21.920 witnessed them make the effort to fix it but i also i think it's worth noting that sometimes

03:23:27.040 they don't and that that's not exactly a an entirety of our faith and a lot of times in

03:23:32.880 um you know in christianity you find these people forgiving people for doing terrible things to

03:23:38.880 either them or their their family and they're they're just going on about this bent and i think

03:23:43.760 that that creates an apathy that's very dangerous where that you know if somebody slays your child

03:23:49.840 and you just i forgive you that some of that stuff i think is so egregiously

03:23:58.640 terrible in a lot of ways when i see a lot of that happen again we we delve into the nuance

03:24:07.040 if we if we read epic epic poetry

03:24:14.320 we, without any logic or discernment, all of us would be in a never-ending cycle of

03:24:25.620 vengeance that we couldn't accomplish. Clearly, there is a time and a place for noble people

03:24:35.220 to extend a certain amount of grace to somebody and let some things slide. A certain degree

03:24:43.020 of that is a sign of nobility, but obviously when you get to the other side of that, it

03:24:53.080 becomes weakness, and then when you get to what Spahn just described, there's this thing

03:24:58.900 that I've noticed.

03:24:59.700 when any great tragedy happens there is a race amongst christians to forgive the most 0.94

03:25:12.000 heinous of things if there is some kind of serial rapist or mass shooter that kills children

03:25:21.720 there's almost a competition amongst parents to see who can be the first to go out in front of

03:25:29.440 camera and like you know i just want to say to the one who murdered my children i forgive you

03:25:36.320 and jesus loves you and i'm bigger than that because i love the lord or some nonsense

03:25:51.040 that is beneath contemptible and it is

03:25:59.440 makes me very angry right now to consider that folks do that so there's a really big scale there

03:26:08.480 if somebody scuffs your kicks you can just let it slide that's a nice thing to do

03:26:16.720 if somebody rapes and murders your children no you should hold that grudge 0.90

03:26:23.440 until they are dead and gone and then beyond um there's no virtue in flagellantly forgiving 1.00

03:26:38.080 gross infraction but the same thing is look towards reconciliation don't be a jerk in your 0.98

03:26:46.480 life if somebody wrongs you in a normal way and this is something that okay as a gothean counseling 0.86

03:26:53.200 something I do a lot. When people have this kind of a situation, I ask, what does victory

03:26:59.380 look like? What do you want? And we can start from there. Maybe somebody betrayed you,

03:27:07.680 they pissed you off, they did something wrong, they did whatever. Cool. What would it take

03:27:12.660 for them to compensate you and for you to want to forgive them? See what that is. And

03:27:20.720 that's something ridiculous okay but if they gave you a million dollars you would forgive them though

03:27:26.320 right well i suppose okay cool they're not going to give you a million dollars but that's the place

03:27:32.000 to start what if they said they were sorry and they bought you a cheeseburger no that's not enough

03:27:41.760 okay cool fair enough fair enough i had to try all right well what if and then you find a spot

03:27:48.720 where realistically you find a place where you can come to a reconciliation and i think that um

03:28:00.000 lord forsetti is our divine inspiration for some of that for fixing those kind of conflicts in a

03:28:10.160 way that moves the folk forward instead of cuts us all back by an endless vengeance cycle

03:28:19.200 so i i would encourage folks that were in a position between other members of our folk

03:28:27.040 that they wanted to figure that out to seek i don't know to seek the blessings of lord

03:28:33.120 for seti on it while engaging your gothar to help with it a little bit i know that's

03:28:39.360 way beyond the simple forward do the gods forgive question but i do think it's important i think

03:28:45.600 it's very relevant all right so interesting question vril mage or vroom age 14 question

03:28:57.380 Aorik was the son of Ariarik and the father of Athanarik.

03:29:07.060 He was raised in Constantinople where a statue was erected in his honor.

03:29:12.920 So, hail Athanarik, hail Athanarik, but could Ariarik, the name, mean Arian king or chieftain?

03:29:23.860 Now, I saw this, and I started looking up on my phone while Svon was talking to see linguistically what the deal is.

03:29:32.860 it's hard with the first half the rick part means like in old Norse uh Riker is like powerful

03:29:56.260 um riki is like dominion of power um rex in the latin means king certainly that part of it is

03:30:10.600 correct. The error part of it is a little bit more questionable. It's one of the reasons

03:30:26.700 that if you look at it, Athaneric, there's speculation on whether that was his name or

03:30:34.680 his title because of that and i think that there may be overlap to both i think that maybe if you

03:30:42.200 were in a gothic noble house you might name your children with a reginal title if they're presumed

03:30:51.800 to be one who would inherit that position of kingship um that's really interesting and i just

03:31:00.600 thank you for actually digging into so here's a lament of mine so often i think a lot of our

03:31:11.480 people don't appreciate our days of remembrance or the heroes that we celebrate and i think they

03:31:18.920 don't it's hard for me because i've always loved history and i've always been really intrigued by

03:31:25.960 that so i go down those rabbit holes but i think a lot of people don't and i think it's really cool

03:31:33.160 that you do and i'm appreciative that you're looking into one of our heroes it was really

03:31:38.360 important to me to include king ethaneric in our list of heroes honor him with a day of remembrance

03:31:50.600 I read a piece, I guess, I think it was made into book form, but it was like a transcript of a lecture, I believe, something called the Roman and the Teuton.

03:32:07.740 And that was the first time I heard about Ephaneric and his taking a stand when so many of his people were being seduced into accepting Christianity.

03:32:23.300 And he took a bold stand with fire and sword to make war against those of his folk who would break their trough with our gods.

03:32:34.820 and it was then 0.54

03:32:38.940 and is now very inspirational to me

03:32:41.640 Svon may be able to help with the linguistics

03:32:46.680 a little bit more here

03:32:48.060 so I'm going to hand the talking stick over to Svon

03:32:52.340 well I was just going to say that

03:32:54.740 as far as AO

03:32:56.580 AO I'm still looking at

03:32:59.900 but

03:33:00.200 Ari Arik

03:33:04.520 Given just as that right there

03:33:08.020 I would definitely say it's most likely

03:33:09.780 Meaning honorable

03:33:11.760 It's the same as the name

03:33:13.620 In Iceland, Erekur

03:33:15.580 Erekur and Erek

03:33:17.780 Ere meaning

03:33:19.540 Honorable or noble

03:33:22.100 And Rik meaning kingdom 0.92

03:33:24.080 Or leader, but amongst the Goths 0.58

03:33:26.340 It is worth remembering

03:33:28.440 That they had leaders

03:33:30.340 Called Riks

03:33:31.280 Which was Rex

03:33:32.900 except the the reeks was uh tribal leaders and oftentimes uh religious leaders and sometimes

03:33:40.000 both so a reeks could have been a tribe leader or a priest and often those interchanged and they

03:33:49.560 were uh instrumental in keeping um ufilos and his um his arian um christianity but remember

03:33:59.600 arian christianity a-r-i-a-n is not arian it's actually coming from a person who was named

03:34:08.240 uh in the same like cut of that of that the name of that meaning noble or honorable but he was a

03:34:16.560 teacher in egypt and his name was arius or that at least at least that was his latinized name um

03:34:24.000 so when ufilos brought that form of christianity which i guess is considered a gnostic form now 0.72

03:34:30.720 um it was the reeks that kept him out and kept him from um you know kind of and the only good

03:34:39.600 thing that really came out of that though i mean as much as i i i kind of i'm glad that that worked

03:34:46.960 the one thing that he did do which i think christians were uh very good at and ahead of

03:34:52.880 of their time was the chronologically writing down of the language and it was because of him

03:35:00.960 that we know about the gothic language specifically in his uh writings of the book of matthew so i

03:35:08.000 can't fault him for that at all i think that our ancestors should have gotten on the the uh

03:35:13.280 chronological writing uh and we eventually did i mean that's the reason why the adas that we're

03:35:18.220 reading right now comes from the icelanders is because they they jumped on that um but

03:35:24.940 yeah from the linguistics noble or honorable king um versus sometimes like you'll see like

03:35:32.780 ulfric which might mean wolf king but it most often has been a kingdom of the wolf like a reich

03:35:39.740 or, yeah, Reich or Rik

03:35:43.740 or Richa in Anglo-Saxon.

03:35:52.380 Yeah, no, that was a really good question.

03:35:54.740 finraith has anyone suggested there should be audiobook versions of books like

03:36:12.140 australia native european spirituality by stephen mcnellen yes absolutely

03:36:17.640 trouble is and i don't want to talk out of turn but this is my understanding

03:36:25.140 is that the publishing deal for that particular title

03:36:30.660 doesn't allow um our founder the ability to do that himself i think that the rights for

03:36:40.980 the audio book are with the publishing house and not with uh steve so

03:36:48.900 that's kind of where that's at i know it's been asked i've asked the question of him myself

03:36:57.220 and that's my understanding as it is i do think that would be a good thing and i'd love to see

03:37:04.020 that happen um but that's kind of a situation i believe it's in right now and again forgive

03:37:09.220 me if i'm mistaken in some way um a question from both of you who was the last ancestor or deity

03:37:20.660 you prayed to at your altar and what did you give as an offering feel free not to answer if it's too

03:37:28.020 personal negative you will answer and you will answer fully because that's what we do on victory

03:37:34.980 never sleeps we keeps it real so literally right before this program as is my custom

03:37:46.260 i came before my altar and it was really simple so it wasn't like a big thing but i burnt some incense

03:37:57.300 some jesus incense but instance is kind of all the same it's magisterium by this company but

03:38:07.800 it's like this uh resin incense so it feels really good and it smells good and it seems

03:38:15.480 really high quality it's what i like to burn at my altar and it uh

03:38:21.480 it was to the isir generally it was focused at all father oven specifically

03:38:31.300 but also looking a bit to also thor because we were doing the harbar slur tonight

03:38:40.380 and i ask as i as i do first i gave thanks for the blessings in my life in the austral folk assembly

03:38:50.720 um for my folk and for the blessings for my family i gave thanks for that and i asked that

03:39:02.720 i'd be blessed with

03:39:07.280 inspiration and eloquence that i could

03:39:17.800 convey to the folk the things that they wanted me to convey in the best and most accurate way

03:39:29.900 that did them honor um and that's what i often that's usually what i do before one of these shows

03:39:38.520 just to i don't know again you get talking heads on here and i want to make sure that i'm

03:39:45.640 representing the gods as accurately as I can. And it's not perfect. And I want to be really

03:39:56.520 aware of that responsibility. So that's what I did. What about you, Swan?

03:40:01.020 um my hero or actually i brought my hero outside for the last for um for of one of the ice here

03:40:16.780 the last um gift that i gave here at my house was i brought my hero outside and gave um a gift of

03:40:26.540 of mead to the holy freya and that was um that was right around um hexanoch time frame um

03:40:37.180 but the last ancestor was um anna okalita who is my wife's great grandmother um and her daughter

03:40:50.140 is living in our house right now. She's 103 years old. And I did it. This is an interesting

03:41:00.140 thing. One of the things that I do in prayer sometimes is I will speak highly of a living

03:41:07.300 person to their ancestors. And so I'm trying to build their renown and fame so that their

03:41:15.640 ancestors could recognize that their that their descendants are having a great effect on on the

03:41:21.120 lives of others so i was speaking in praise to my wife of my wife to her great grandmother and um

03:41:30.120 speaking about her um her quest for kindness that her life how she dedicates much of her life

03:41:37.640 to helping people to taking in what is essentially her daughter. It's strange. But again, there is a

03:41:48.320 form of when we give praise to people third party, that is a huge, impactful and powerful

03:42:00.180 thing in our culture. If I tell you about how great someone else is publicly, I am doing them

03:42:06.840 a great, like, you know, a nod, and I was doing that, that was the, that was the essence

03:42:13.900 of the, of the bloat, so.

03:42:19.720 So, if we're talking about ancestors, last ancestor, I didn't make an offering at all,

03:42:28.780 the last ancestor I went before my altar to was about my mom, and I just realized it'd

03:42:36.260 been a long time since I, it was, I believe it was last Wednesday night after this program.

03:42:50.500 Talked about my mom a lot, but it's been a long time since I talked to my mom.

03:42:55.480 So I got before my altar and I just kind of sat there and talked to my mom a little bit,

03:43:02.900 But I didn't make an offering.

03:43:08.600 By all means, when you're approaching the gods

03:43:11.180 or one of your ancestors, make an offering.

03:43:14.520 But one of the things, I know my mom.

03:43:17.660 I didn't need to give her something to go talk to her.

03:43:21.600 And so I did.

03:43:22.560 It was really nice.

03:43:24.280 That's the last time I went before my altar

03:43:27.400 about one of my ancestors.

03:43:28.880 Next question is, is there an advantage to going to Europe and marrying a girl from there?

03:43:42.100 Yes, in the sense it's really cool.

03:43:44.860 It depends on where in Europe you go.

03:43:47.340 I would

03:43:53.520 I don't know the immigration struggle that you may run into so that may not be advantageous 0.99

03:44:03.260 I think if you get a girl from central or eastern Europe

03:44:10.820 they may very well be more traditional than American girls in a lot of ways

03:44:16.700 i think if you get one in further western europe they may be less traditional in some ways

03:44:24.380 so i mean i think it sounds like a fun adventure either way and i wish you success with it

03:44:31.020 um but i think there's pluses and minuses you know like there would be with anything else

03:44:36.700 um what's i you know what i'll

03:44:40.140 so one advantage that i think would be cool is you would have the benefit of getting to go to

03:44:51.000 europe to visit your in-laws which would be really cool and maybe expose you to some stuff you

03:44:56.800 wouldn't have gotten to see or experience otherwise so i'd say that's a positive what's

03:45:02.580 useful yeah i was gonna say it depends on where i i would assume um i know uh quite a few friends

03:45:12.340 of mine and and and and clients too so not all of them uh you know in the religious community or or

03:45:20.180 what have you just people i i know um and some within the religious community uh it seems that

03:45:26.820 the eastern european women are um i don't know i've heard horror stories about in say specifically

03:45:38.100 like russians coming here to get the uh to come to the land of the big px and get the 0.97

03:45:43.220 get the green card and go um but uh serbian and um ukrainian and polish women uh and hungarian um

03:45:56.820 all the people that i know and i'm just trying to think of like where they come from these

03:46:00.500 these uh women that i know they're all really really strong um good-hearted women that and

03:46:08.820 again these are only four people from different countries in europe so like i can't speak on it

03:46:14.900 like that's it but i mean i i've you have expertise you are you are an icelander by birth

03:46:21.540 that doesn't work to any you are you are a european gentleman yeah you're from hungary

03:46:29.700 i'm from iceland like it's a and we do our european dance no um they uh no you gotta show

03:46:37.940 me the european i don't have my knickerbockers off um no no it's they seem really nice good

03:46:47.540 good ladies um you know level-headed uh i think language sometimes can be a barrier especially in

03:46:54.740 the eastern um countries there they have a harder time i think with english than say

03:47:00.740 strictly germanic or nordic uh you know if you meet a a person from holland or you know switzerland

03:47:10.100 or austria or norway and sweden and iceland and all those places they will either already know

03:47:17.060 english very very well or will learn it swiftly so there's a language barrier and there's also

03:47:22.180 some cultural stuff there too um and it's hard to find um ones that might not be you know like

03:47:28.980 they're traditionally and culturally greek orthodox or catholic and you you know if there's a

03:47:36.100 spiritual uh conflict there too i would say that's not advantageous um but you might you

03:47:42.340 You might very well meet people over there who are open to or have already kind of, you know, got into a road and ovary or, or, you know, Alcetru and yeah.

03:47:56.880 And then again, what Alcetru they said, it'd be awesome to be able to go back over and, and see family and go do things and have someone close.

03:48:04.440 So you don't, you know, it's not hotels and you have somebody who's familiar, but I also found too,

03:48:09.920 that a lot of times when you meet up with older women from europe a lot of them come here and

03:48:15.780 it's like kind of only a large matter of time before they want to go back i noticed that a lot

03:48:23.740 in the uh icelandic folks that you know they always kind of wanted to go back to iceland

03:48:28.880 um and what have you i could i just remember that specifically because my mother was kind of an odd

03:48:34.240 duck. She did not want to go back. She wanted to stay here. But yeah, so you have that hurdle as

03:48:41.420 well. So I have seen, I'm very fortunate in my position as an officer. I get like a really

03:48:52.160 wide, I don't know, 30,000 foot view of things. I get a lot of things that filter up to me.

03:49:04.240 known a lot of folks that have met beautiful amazing uh european women that they have

03:49:13.520 awesome marriages with and amazing families with and they have these women with just they're

03:49:20.080 beautiful and have traditional values and aren't soiled by all of the degeneracy we see in in the

03:49:27.360 west in the united states and they're amazing i've absolutely seen that that's the thing it happens

03:49:34.240 I've also seen people that met a woman online or something that maybe was in a bad spot and this was their ticket out of their bad spot and they fulfilled whatever obligation they were contractually obligated to and then disappeared and that relationship was no longer a thing.

03:50:01.240 so i don't think there's a one-size-fits-all answer i think that that's a really cool pursuit

03:50:10.120 if it's what you want to do i think the foundations of commonly shared beliefs and

03:50:16.520 values is much more important than hey you're american you got money and you found somebody

03:50:22.200 in a bad spot maybe they need a little hand up that often doesn't work out so well so finding

03:50:28.920 somebody through points of commonality i think that's really a really cool thing and i wish you

03:50:36.760 the best in it uh wolf elder asks question slash statement i have extreme adhd in order to learn

03:50:47.240 the lore i have to view it as a story it's gotten aware i have to have it read to me

03:50:53.800 is this a weakness yes of course it is and I don't say that to be a jerk I'm just it's a thing 0.66

03:51:01.480 it's wrong when we pretend that disability is differently abled it's not it's a disability

03:51:09.640 that's not optimal but here's the thing you're very aware of what your situation is with your

03:51:17.120 ADHD. And if you can find a way to harness the strengths of that, it can absolutely be

03:51:26.760 advantageous. One of those may be a hyper attention to detail and focus. Whereas a lot of people have

03:51:36.960 trouble internalizing some of the specifics, depending, and everybody with ADHD is not the

03:51:47.920 same, so you might have a different way of processing this, but you may very well be

03:51:52.660 able to focus on details and remember, like, little details of the lore much better than

03:52:00.940 some of the rest of folks um but yeah i mean having yes being neurodivergent isn't good it

03:52:11.500 is a disability it's not whatever but we we all have a variety of situations where we're you know

03:52:20.380 less than perfect in a lot of our stuff the key is you know you have what you have regardless

03:52:27.020 finding the way to maximize the benefits and minimize the weaknesses is the best way to deal

03:52:32.460 with it and because your brain processes stuff differently you may have strengths on it that

03:52:39.740 the rest of us don't notice so it is what it is that's cards you're dealt figuring out how

03:52:46.620 to use it to the best of your ability that's what matters um

03:52:51.580 Um, if you have to see it as a story and a narrative and you have to have somebody read

03:52:59.560 it to you, I wonder why it is that you have to have someone read it to you.

03:53:04.640 There's a lot of questions that I have, and I would love to talk to you more about it.

03:53:10.840 Um, if you wanted to email me or something, I'd be happy to talk to you more about it

03:53:14.940 in specifics because a lot of the details matter on it.

03:53:18.380 is this a weakness it's irrelevant it is what it is um what to do with it is a much

03:53:26.780 more important question a more pertinent question and I'm curious because I'm I want I kind of want

03:53:33.580 to besides everyone else listening I'm kind of fascinated and I'm curious

03:53:39.420 I'm curious so I do want to know more um Svon do you have any insight on that

03:53:45.820 No, I mean, I think you've covered it. I would say, you know, most of our ancestors learned

03:53:55.480 through oratory. The stories were told to them, or the poems were told to them. But

03:54:01.240 it does put you at a deficit because, you know, there isn't a lot out there. I'm trying

03:54:07.120 to remember of the British gentleman that I wrote it down to, and I just can't go look

03:54:14.420 for it right now um that go the uh bode mayo spoke about last um episode um and his tellings

03:54:27.140 of the stories of being really really good um but yeah you know i would say you know work around

03:54:34.460 the the disadvantage you have but the biggest problem is there's not a lot out there that's

03:54:40.040 read to you. I mean, you could go with, um, I don't know, like, I wouldn't even trust a lot

03:54:46.480 of the stuff that comes out, like, like, uh, Gaiman stuff. Um, not a huge fan of it. And if

03:54:53.680 it's read to you, I've, I've actually listened to some of it and was not particularly impressed

03:55:00.260 with some of the, the bridges he was doing, but, um, at the same time, like, yeah, that's how our

03:55:09.220 ancestors learned so it's not bad it's just it puts you at a disadvantage

03:55:13.860 uh next question hard times create strong men strong men create good times good times

03:55:25.100 create weak men and weak men create hard times true yes wolf throne do either of you have

03:55:34.120 any secular hobbies or interests also yes we'll throw not apologize we'll pause on that one a

03:55:45.300 little bit the first one i think is a truth that we just all know to be true i don't i do it a

03:55:50.120 little bit to be silly but i think we all realize that the truth of that statement and it's worth

03:55:55.120 restating and i'm happy to do so but yeah um the question is do we have any hobbies and stuff

03:56:03.000 certainly we do what are those

03:56:08.360 i don't know because so many of them seem so trivial to even mention um

03:56:15.400 hobbies and stuff that are secular i mentioned i do the martial arts i work out um you know i go lift

03:56:23.720 every day it's i'm in a really strange spot and so i don't

03:56:38.600 we've all got different hobbies and interests um and i'm sure i've got plenty but i uh

03:56:45.240 i have arranged my life to where also true is such a

03:56:55.960 the entirety of it that yeah i've got hobbies and interests and stuff but it comes out

03:57:04.360 differently in increments but most of the stuff i find myself

03:57:08.120 focusing on i relate to house a true or i relate through house a true i've noticed this and this

03:57:20.000 seems like kind of a strange thing to my friends but you know even my father when my dad asked me

03:57:27.480 how i'm doing

03:57:28.380 there's two things when he asked me specifically you know how are things or how are you doing

03:57:38.100 or whatever i give him a state of the afa address about how the afa is doing because that's my life

03:57:48.100 that's what i do it transitions very quickly and then i'll talk about my daughter and how

03:57:54.180 she's doing it something um but this is

03:57:58.500 such a massive center of gravity of my life that it pulls everything else into it so even if i have 0.97

03:58:10.900 a hobby that's external to it i relate to it through house or true or by us other than stupid 0.88

03:58:19.460 nonsense there's plenty of like pro wrestling or some whatever that's like a palette cleanser 0.80

03:58:24.740 stupid thing to pay attention to um but like history i love history and it's not just like 0.87

03:58:30.740 oh i need to read viking history no i like all history i like uh civil war history a lot um 0.98

03:58:37.540 a number of my ancestors you know fought for dixie in civil war so i there's a lot of things

03:58:44.100 that i like but i relate it to our faith because our faith is holistic but in a way

03:58:50.100 it is such a force of gravity it brings all the things to it to where the other things I like and

03:58:58.280 enjoy I affix to my practice of Ausatru or my relation to it if that makes any sense

03:59:06.080 I hope that it does Svon do you have secular interests or hobbies and if you do which I

03:59:15.600 assume you do uh what what might they be i'm kind of using your blueprint because i've got

03:59:24.080 work and three kids and um religious duties that's a very there's like a tight

03:59:37.360 tight uh window there it's very very tight so like having extra time to do things is

03:59:43.520 very very hard um i was thinking about because i saw the question and i was like the only thing i

03:59:49.600 can say is is that when i get a chance to one thing and this is just kind of an obscure thing

03:59:55.680 i don't even think i've ever spoken to you about it as a year ago is um and it's just it's not

04:00:00.960 something that i can tend to all the time but every once in a while i'll get a chance and i will

04:00:07.280 i will play an osr game um i'm a i'm a fan of um what is what is osr uh it's it stands for

04:00:17.600 old school role playing it's um i grew up in the 80s and 90s and um uh so it's it's akin to

04:00:27.520 so i know you use the word dungeons and dragons would be it has a different mindset though i think

04:00:34.000 is uh like paper and pencil and dice yeah yeah and maps um and and um i know like you know some

04:00:42.960 of my friends are into perhaps like you know the warhammer stuff there they were into it i i have

04:00:48.720 never been into any of that stuff but i was when i was a younger kid i i really enjoyed some of

04:00:55.440 of these kind of like uh you know robert e howard-esque sword and sorcery um games so

04:01:04.140 occasionally well and there's something going on right now in in the gaming uh world um osr is

04:01:12.200 like this revival of getting away from um current games because they're becoming very very again

04:01:19.000 hit with the agenda a lot and so the osr is kind of a revival back to hey like i mean there's even

04:01:27.960 mentioned there's been mention of um in current like dungeons and dragons where they all say oh

04:01:33.480 there's like white people in a basement and that's not the way dnd needs to be and uh we need to you

04:01:38.440 know leave and all that stuff and in a way it's kind of it was like a couple of white guys in a

04:01:44.760 basement playing battle games um and they created this whole entire genre and i'm seeing a lot of

04:01:52.520 these kind of things getting wrenched out of their hands uh their memory is kind of being squandered

04:01:58.040 and and you know people are talking about them being problematic or you know racist or whatever

04:02:03.720 and all of this stuff but the genre was so popular in the 80s and i was definitely one of those kids

04:02:09.400 where when the satanic panic was going on and people were like going crazy about it i was

04:02:15.560 i was the i was one of those kids um and just thought saw the absolute like absurdity in those

04:02:23.000 in the the the the really really churchy people um because we were just playing a very simple game

04:02:30.120 and um the osr attempts to revive that simplicity uh and also kind of stand true to the foundations

04:02:39.360 of of an american our game that was kind of birthed in uh in american culture white males

04:02:49.360 playing these battle games and i mean you could even go further back you know when people playing

04:02:54.980 with like Napoleonic figures, even as they're adults, like doing like real battle strategy

04:02:59.860 things. But, um, so every once in a while I'll get a chance to do that and, or, or even run a

04:03:05.800 game. Um, it's just one of those things that when you learn it, you know how to do it. Um, and if

04:03:11.520 it's simple, then it doesn't really go away. But a lot of the newer stuff that comes out, I don't,

04:03:16.480 I don't really mess with it. I don't know anything about it. And, uh, again, that just,

04:03:20.420 that goes away but the reason why i brought it up was because i recently got my son

04:03:25.780 to to play something and it was kind of cool it was a way for him to um you know do some math and

04:03:33.540 and plot things out and you know figure out and puzzle solve it was it was it was good he did

04:03:40.340 really really well i just thought oh go ahead i'm sorry uh it was something because uh i guess they

04:03:46.260 did it on stranger things the show i've never seen the show so i don't know anything about it

04:03:51.860 uh i don't i'm probably never gonna see it but um it was caught by one of his friends and his friend

04:04:00.100 said you know they're playing this game and then my son was like oh my dad used to play that when

04:04:04.340 he was a kid and um so then i i ran him through it just to see how they they would do and they

04:04:10.580 They did really well.

04:04:11.240 They had a lot of fun.

04:04:13.040 So a couple of things.

04:04:15.540 I appreciate in the comments section that Nick toils beneath my lash.

04:04:21.560 I appreciate your sacrifice, Nick.

04:04:23.780 That's why we have nice things.

04:04:27.540 No, he said he used to run a lot of games and things,

04:04:30.180 but he can't nowadays because I've always got him doing stuff.

04:04:33.160 um so what i mentioned about the gravitational pull of these things

04:04:42.760 what i like to do if i'm hyper focusing on stuff that i don't have an access to fix and i need a

04:04:53.960 palate cleanser palate cleanser is sometimes i will play crusader kings

04:05:04.600 my i always choose somebody who starts out as also true

04:05:16.040 and my first goal that i always try to do is become the filkier which is in the game the like

04:05:24.760 if you reform aussitrue and you select lay clergy you can make your king slash emperor

04:05:37.560 slash whatever noble that you're playing be the head of the like reformed aussitrue

04:05:43.560 that's my first goal that i do in the focus in the game and i become a religious zealot

04:05:49.720 for all of europe that you try to reconquer europe for austria so

04:05:57.080 that's awesome it sucks all of the things in so it's like i do that i can't um separate so

04:06:03.400 if i were to play other games or things i used to always tease my cousin scott

04:06:11.640 he would diversify what he does if he would play a game he would be the girl or he would be you

04:06:16.840 know like the little scrawny girl thing and like a fighting game no i would laugh at him i would

04:06:22.760 pick the person most similar to myself or at least my idealized self that i wanted to be

04:06:29.800 and i would further go along that same pattern so i don't really deviate from that a lot is that

04:06:36.840 like a phone thing you play it on your phone what are you talking about crusader kings yeah no i

04:06:45.160 play it on my uh i play it on steam no crusader kings is is the thing so also i'll play war of

04:06:53.320 rights and that really doesn't have an also true thing to it it's an awesome game but i'm not ever

04:07:01.240 gonna i'd be dead before i play union on that it's a war game um but it's really cool it's really

04:07:10.040 well done so i mean sure there's other little stuff and a side question and i'll jump ahead

04:07:17.640 just because it's relevant to what we're talking about the wolf thrower asks matt how are you doing

04:07:25.320 not the afa not your daughter but how do you do and i think i first thank you for asking that it's

04:07:31.960 it's really nice of you to do that and think about that.

04:07:43.820 As the all's Harrier Goethe and as a father,

04:07:53.060 and I'm trying to think about this.

04:07:54.580 I don't mean this to be inauthentic.

04:08:01.960 How I am doing is a combination of a lot of things.

04:08:11.180 How I'm doing depends very, very heavily upon how the AFA is doing, how my daughter is doing, and how my wife's doing.

04:08:24.860 i'm me and i can nerd out with like stuff i can eat chips and watch stupid movies and i

04:08:35.500 can do a lot of things but in order to have the peace of mind to rest easy doing those things 0.94

04:08:43.980 I have to be right being good I'll share your go see I have to be a good husband and a good father

04:08:56.700 and

04:09:01.080 I'm really trying to answer the question it's kind of an interesting thought experiment

04:09:12.360 And those things, I think as men, our responsibilities very, very often define us. And I don't think that's wrong or bad.

04:09:28.440 i'm very blessed that being the alzharia gofi i have an outlet for

04:09:36.460 a lot of creativity or impulse to innovate and to build and to do

04:09:45.320 how those things are though determine so much about how I'm doing there's no other

04:09:59.540 circumstance in my life that could be so beneficial that if the AFA were collapsing

04:10:10.400 and ruin that i would somehow and the afa is falling apart but hey let me tell you about this

04:10:16.880 thing i'm not built that way when i became the alteriegothian i dedicated myself to the icer

04:10:28.320 how the afa is doing is how i'm doing and i will live and die by that that will be my legacy

04:10:36.480 or it will be my infamy if I screw it up.

04:10:44.340 That is my reality, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

04:10:49.300 And also, you know, how's my marriage?

04:10:54.620 How's my child?

04:10:59.940 It sounds disconnected from me, but it's not.

04:11:03.360 i have one child and at this point when she's four

04:11:10.200 if she wakes me up every morning giving me a hug and excited and happy about the day

04:11:19.200 then my day starts out right

04:11:21.240 if i didn't have that i don't know what i'd do

04:11:26.460 um we're still at a point where if something's wrong with her i can fix it with a hug or kiss

04:11:36.440 and a boo-boo and magically it heals it that does a lot about how i'm doing um

04:11:48.860 if my wife is happy and I feel like I'm part of why that is it's not really happy wife happy life

04:12:00.140 because she's not going to bitch at me thing it's I want my wife to be happy and I want to be part

04:12:07.280 of making her life such that she can feel happy and not be stressed and if I can do that and be

04:12:18.440 a good enough husband that affects how i'm doing a lot if all of those things are doing well

04:12:26.120 then i'm doing awesome and right now the afa is doing really well we're in a really good place

04:12:33.000 a lot of things i'm excited about my daughter's killing it she's in gymnastics now and she's

04:12:39.180 doing great at it, and look at my wife when she comes home, and I spend time with her,

04:12:50.740 and the best of my understanding, she loves me, and she's happy, so I'm doing all right.

04:12:58.460 As far as other stuff, I am so tremendously blessed to be in the position I'm in, in life,

04:13:07.800 with being the all's harrier gothi with being surrounded by such amazing people in the afa

04:13:17.720 with having the best daughter in the entire universe and a wife who loves me i'm doing all

04:13:24.900 right i'm doing pretty good um it's a long-winded kind of ridiculous answer but it's a really

04:13:33.380 interesting thing to think about because I don't feel like I can separate myself from all of those

04:13:40.360 things. Next question from Wolf Throne. It's kind of interesting. Can a coward become heroic

04:13:52.720 and be redeemed for his cowardice? I've been talking for a while. This is fun. Take a swing

04:13:58.780 at that? I think so. I think that he can alleviate his cowardice of the past by showing heroic in

04:14:18.120 the future or in the present, I should say. Actually, yeah, in the present. Does it negate

04:14:25.400 the effects of his cowardice though. Um, again, that kind of goes back towards what we were

04:14:32.260 talking about with forgiveness and working towards fixing and mending the things, um,

04:14:38.300 that you caused. That's a different story. Uh, it doesn't, you're, you're, and nor does your

04:14:44.100 bravery now or, or, you know, and things that you're facing now, it doesn't alleviate the

04:14:50.900 issues that your cowardice caused in the past. So you have to take a very, um, strong look at

04:14:58.820 those things and try to mend those things while also being brave in the things that you are

04:15:06.040 facing or well-faced. Um, but yeah, I, I, I think it's just depends on the situation,

04:15:12.640 but I do think it is possible. It's just, it's hard to go back from. And then on top of that,

04:15:19.280 But, you know, if you do courageous things now, but all that people know of you is your cowardly deeds of the past, you're going to have to work through that.

04:15:31.120 You're going to have to do everything you can to wash yourself of and rid yourself of that, the muck of that.

04:15:42.400 But I think it can be done.

04:15:44.100 um i just i've very rarely have met cowards who do that instead they they twist it to

04:15:55.540 they were right and everyone else was wrong and they did what they did for a good reason

04:16:01.280 and then they go about so they they kind of absolve themselves of their cowardice and i

04:16:08.120 that's one of the things about um the beauty of community is is that it holds you to that standard

04:16:15.720 i think that's another reason why people are scared to be a part of a community is because

04:16:19.880 if you are cowardly and people notice it you can't wash that away as quickly um so yeah that that

04:16:28.360 holding you to that standard is good but yes i mean you could it would take i would say council

04:16:35.160 get counsel figure out how to to go back from what you did and i'm not saying you did anything

04:16:39.560 specific i'm just saying if if there was a cowardly person who wanted to rectify their

04:16:47.640 their life and get things back to re-attain their might and stop draining their um their

04:16:55.480 humming you would require them to do courageous things now turn their life around and then also

04:17:04.920 look back and seek to mend and rebuild all those fractures that your cowardice may have caused 0.98

04:17:14.840 so don't get this twisted being a coward is terrible don't be a coward 0.96

04:17:20.120 yes a million percent a coward can redeem himself because and this is honest again 1.00

04:17:31.780 don't be a coward that sucks don't be coward but 1.00

04:17:36.780 the bar is set so low 1.00

04:17:42.040 that you look super heroic

04:17:47.300 if you overcome

04:17:49.500 the slightest bit of opposition.

04:17:55.800 Here's the thing.

04:17:57.060 We find ourselves wherever we find ourselves.

04:18:00.140 Yes, it's often our fault if we get there.

04:18:02.560 Sometimes it's whatever.

04:18:07.120 But if you find yourself currently

04:18:09.960 and your self-assessment says,

04:18:11.640 hey i am a coward you can absolutely fix it because the you have the opportunity

04:18:24.760 to be vastly heroic by the difference between your former self and the self you want to be

04:18:32.840 that is a greater contrast than someone who is naturally heroic and continues to do heroic things

04:18:43.700 there is a noteworthiness of you drastically altering yourself to throw yourself into

04:18:51.700 things that would normally scare you and to overcome your infamy as a coward provides you

04:19:02.040 with an opportunity to get greater momentum

04:19:07.880 at fixing yourself than otherwise would be available.

04:19:14.780 Jump out there. 0.99

04:19:16.240 If you are notable for being a coward, 0.99

04:19:19.620 resolve today to stop and tomorrow 0.98

04:19:23.760 to throw yourself at the things that scare you.

04:19:27.620 that transformation in and of itself is noteworthy and noticeable by everyone around you.

04:19:38.020 You have tremendous potential. Do that.

04:19:43.800 So much of what defines character development individually is

04:19:56.840 based upon your relationship to self

04:20:03.340 more than your relationship to others.

04:20:07.700 A hero who was born a hero

04:20:09.980 and continues to be a hero throughout his life,

04:20:13.480 I'm not suggesting your cowardice

04:20:15.360 and then you doing something heroic

04:20:17.040 puts you on his level.

04:20:18.940 It doesn't.

04:20:20.400 But the difference between how you were

04:20:22.880 and how you are going forward is so dramatic

04:20:26.140 that it forces us all to stop and take notice and appreciate that's an opportunity you have

04:20:32.540 so seize that um i i did go ahead i don't because i don't know if this is a question or not

04:20:43.200 or if it's going to be coming up as a question there was one that um is there like a viking game

04:20:49.820 that uh anybody would recommend that is accurate or at least somewhat accurate i don't have that

04:20:56.420 but i did want to say one thing and i so i don't own this game i have not played it but i have seen

04:21:02.320 footage of it it is on steam and if anybody is interested in truly historical sword play

04:21:09.280 with sabers and with swords you gotta gotta check out the game hellish court it is it is a polish

04:21:18.980 it's set in poland um it has it is a phenomenally accurate game like i i just recently saw pieces of

04:21:29.960 it on on youtube and was just blown away at the realism because i've done a little of the of hima

04:21:36.060 and um sword fighting um in in the european sense and it is really really good and again it gives a

04:21:44.600 a great amount of um uh credence to saber fighting so and you met you had mentioned steam and that's

04:21:51.640 what led me to that i would definitely recommend that for anybody if you were looking for historical

04:21:57.400 accuracy that one is like ridiculously accurate morris this is like a half episode morris taylor

04:22:05.560 says i went through puberty college got married had two kids got divorced learned icelandic and

04:22:11.960 immigrated to iceland all during this episode you know we've done all the way to like three

04:22:18.360 in the morning north of seven hours probably won't do that this evening but uh

04:22:27.000 welcome aboard yeah i haven't i haven't eaten um i didn't i came home from work so like i've been

04:22:33.560 munching uh here because i hadn't eaten i went what are you eating out of a dog's bowl what

04:22:39.880 no no no it's a salad or a mixing bowl um it's just a little bit of popcorn um

04:22:47.640 because i was starving my stomach was like churning while we were here well go get yourself

04:22:52.120 some food oh no all right so chris lucat uh i looked into other pagan groups that never were

04:22:59.800 successfully suppressed particularly of asian origin and most have monastic orders do you think

04:23:07.720 such a thing is possible in our future or for that matter even compatible with our religion

04:23:15.480 uh spawn go on this for a little bit oh that's kind of a that's a cool question

04:23:21.400 chris that's really cool um i i'm gonna go out i haven't really fleshed it out in my head but i

04:23:30.680 would i'm following a train of thought i believe that if christianity had not been introduced

04:23:40.120 into europe that our faith would have still progressed along much of the railing because

04:23:46.920 of the european um nature um you know i don't think christianity facilitates um warfare uh

04:23:56.600 i think that was europeans bringing their war warfare into christianity um i know that uh

04:24:04.120 i guess the christian bros are all about the crusader stuff but um it's the knighthood

04:24:12.600 the essence of knighthood i believe could be a thing expounded upon even with our holy gods as

04:24:20.920 like the the driving force of it and if that's the case the monastic sense um i don't know it

04:24:29.080 would have to be dependent on i could see it happening but it would it would be dependent

04:24:33.000 on the nature of what the monasticism is trying to achieve um uh could each in like could individual

04:24:44.360 house or our senior have a cult-like monastic um you know if we were living in a an house of true

04:24:55.140 nation could the cult of air be completely built around uh medicinal and um you know

04:25:04.460 or just medicines and health care um could law be built around in in a cult worship or monastic

04:25:13.040 worship of um lord for seti i think it could be done um but again it's it's you know the achievement

04:25:24.000 of that wouldn't really be built i think around trying to attain some sense of nirvana or some

04:25:30.480 mental state i think it would be more about uh like encapsulating the pure relationship with

04:25:36.640 one of the gods and or one of the one of the guys um but that's just me following an extension based

04:25:44.800 off of off of um uh the idea of knighthood and how knighthood could i think very much so with

04:25:53.680 with the varangians and with the yom viking good knighthood was starting to uh show up um

04:26:02.320 um so yeah I guess it all right and I say cults just not not to get confused I think a lot of

04:26:10.480 people might wonder what that means but uh we often refer to like the cult of Odin or the idea

04:26:16.960 that there are there are people who hold devotion to Lord Odin in such a way that they build kind

04:26:23.620 of a a life around it uh whatever that might however that might manifest and I don't it's

04:26:31.000 It's different than monotheism. They understand that there are the other gods. They're just focusing. And I think that, you know, perhaps if there was a sense of like building of these cults where people would facilitate members of the religion to come there and inundate themselves with the faith of a particular aus or particular ausenia.

04:26:55.740 And those people that stayed there to facilitate that, that would be the closest thing to the monastic life.

04:27:02.180 They, they're, I would say, most likely would facilitate, say, a person who's just ausitru and they want to hold devotionals to Hlyn, the ausenior of the, one of the maidens of Fensaler.

04:27:19.200 and they go perhaps to like some place in somewhere in the united states and there's a

04:27:24.820 grove and maybe a place dedicated to that and there's like a maybe two women that like tend to

04:27:30.220 that place um but i think that strict monasticism might not really um hold well in our faith i think

04:27:39.560 we're very very practical even our gothar mary have children and i think in a monastic sense

04:27:46.740 would be about maintaining a sacred place and space and a focus on the devotional reach to that

04:27:55.300 god or goddess but i don't think it would be um so cut off that it would lose its practicality

04:28:02.900 so i i think that's the best answer i got on that one it's getting late we will answer your

04:28:09.460 questions i'm committed to doing so some of them may be a little bit briefer than others

04:28:14.580 it's no disrespect to the question but we're going to be a little bit picky on our voluminousness of

04:28:21.460 the answers and we will probably go long-winded on the ones that inspire us so that being said

04:28:28.820 um what's fond said i think that cultic practice absolutely i think that military orders when you

04:28:38.500 see monasticism displayed in what and you your question referenced the east but when you see it

04:28:48.180 in the west with the templars and the hospitalers or the teutonic order or things like that

04:28:56.580 absolutely i think a military order of military age men devoted to uh martial prowess for

04:29:08.740 um the gods for our church for whatever at some point that makes sense within our faith

04:29:15.780 uh spawn mentions the uh joms back here and i think that's the thing um the deal with

04:29:23.860 monasticism as a whole is it's world rejecting it's people wanting to retreat from the mundane world

04:29:32.980 cut themselves off from it and like exist in this pod of not being part of the world

04:29:41.680 and that is directly contrary to our faith you see that certainly in christianity that's where

04:29:49.420 you banish people that you don't want to deal with or are no longer relevant in society cool 0.91

04:29:55.300 you can you know either we will kill you or you can take monastic vows and you can disappear with 0.97

04:30:01.060 the monastery um yeah so and i could see that maybe with the elderly or with you know like 0.99

04:30:13.960 widows or people who are in a very specific life situation wanting to have a place to retreat to

04:30:20.540 to just focus on spirituality for a time that makes sense um but we don't ever want to be world

04:30:28.220 rejecting you see that in the east is the monks reject the rest of the world and disappear within

04:30:33.980 their monastery because the world is suffering and the world is horrible we don't believe that

04:30:39.740 believe life is good and we want to embrace it having cult specific centers to where somebody

04:30:47.420 devotes themselves wholly to one of our gods or goddesses and builds a cult a specific cult site

04:30:54.540 there absolutely um an order of people that are you know even an order of gothar perhaps that are

04:31:02.620 very specifically aligned for a particular purpose or with a particular you know function absolutely

04:31:10.460 but as far as a escapism to disappear no not so much that's that's contrary to what we do

04:31:17.980 go ahead i was gonna say i forgot about like the dichotomy of that the monastic orders that um

04:31:27.340 go out and do they or like tend places and sacred sites versus the ones that kind of

04:31:33.740 close up and don't come out i would yeah i was thinking of the of the former not so much the

04:31:38.620 latter um all right so wolf throne is it okay to offer beer or whiskey to the gods if you don't

04:31:47.740 have me it's okay to offer beer or whiskey to the gods if you do have me um there's things that just

04:31:56.620 kind of evolved as what people did honestly i think that in the 1970s people like man we're

04:32:04.460 trying to be vikings what did vikings do vikings drank mead let's offer me to the gods and that's

04:32:09.340 how we got where we are it's not to disrespect it i offer me to the gods too but there's no

04:32:17.660 no reason not to all to offer beer or wine or other spirits or whiskey or rum or vodka or whatever you

04:32:28.400 want to do having a toast of you know a drink that has value and significance to you to the

04:32:40.700 God that you are alter that you are offering it to to your culture wherever you find yourself

04:32:45.800 it's completely appropriate for no stop that i don't think that is absolutely completely

04:32:52.440 appropriate and we all do that and have done that well you know our ancestors weren't able

04:32:58.280 to create whiskey so that's not what we give up the guy i can just picture somebody saying that

04:33:04.680 like our ancestors didn't create whiskey because they didn't have the capabilities and that's why

04:33:09.400 we don't do it man yeah that's silly um yeah so morris taylor has the european spirit been waking

04:33:23.960 over the last few weeks i have seen videos from germany that look interesting i think we're in a

04:33:30.120 time where uh the spirit of our folk has been awakening for a number of years now i think in

04:33:36.920 general has been waking for a long time i think we are seeing it more due to circumstance in the

04:33:43.240 past few years uh spawn what do you say yeah i i do i think that the people are i'm just surprised

04:33:54.200 they're waking up now and not a lot sooner like as uh in relation to like you said with europe

04:34:01.320 um but i'm i'm glad that they are i know people speak of the political stuff that's going on in

04:34:07.880 europe right now um is just interesting but i'm glad that it's better now than say 10 years from

04:34:16.200 now but i wish it was 10 years back but yes i do believe uh next question is once you guys get

04:34:25.800 sigerheim more established and fixed up the cemetery do you intend in any way in the future

04:34:31.240 to try to bid for the relocation of lc christiansen's body and bury it there

04:34:42.040 so no and the question itself it's like

04:34:49.320 it may sound absurd but i would be lying if i told you i did not already think of that

04:34:55.800 So, I don't know the specifics.

04:35:03.060 Yes, in a perfect world, if tomorrow I snap my fingers and we have the Alcetru Imperium and I am at the head of it. 0.94

04:35:12.360 Sure, if I had the power to claim the body of our heroes and relocate them where I wanted to, perhaps I'd do that. 0.62

04:35:23.980 But other questions come into play that I'm not certain about.

04:35:29.120 Why is Elsie buried where she is?

04:35:34.640 Was that important to the family? 0.62

04:35:37.140 Why did she find herself there?

04:35:40.000 What was her will in doing so?

04:35:43.960 You know, is that a specific thing that she arranged for because it was important to her?

04:35:48.960 If it was, I wouldn't want to violate that.

04:35:53.520 If it was some kind of rando thing, sure, I would love to do that.

04:35:59.460 I'd absolutely, we would reinter her at Sigurheim with all the pomp and circumstance we could muster,

04:36:08.600 and that would be a spot of worship and veneration for her for eternity.

04:36:15.540 But I don't know how that works, and I don't know the situation.

04:36:19.580 um and i think that as

04:36:23.020 i don't think that we have standing to just go and like

04:36:29.420 take possession of lc's remains and move them where we want

04:36:34.940 um but yeah if i was if i was the the house true emperor of north america then i would seriously

04:36:46.360 look in doing that but it would depend on why she's where she is um but yeah the idea is a

04:36:54.280 really nice one and i'd love to do that you know people found themselves in spots they didn't want

04:37:01.180 to be in or were only there due to a cost thing or whatever but i think that's kind of distant

04:37:09.620 into our future um it's an interesting idea and i would lie i'd be a liar if i didn't tell you

04:37:16.060 That wasn't something I thought about, because I have.

04:37:23.100 I think, so I'll put this there.

04:37:27.920 In order for you to disinter somebody's remains and relocate them,

04:37:35.160 that's not something that you do at a whim.

04:37:37.760 That's something that has to be very seriously,

04:37:41.360 your intention on that is really, really important. 0.98

04:37:46.060 i don't think it's like desecration unless you're doing it to be a jerk unless it becomes 0.98

04:37:52.920 politically disadvantageous or whatever your nonsense is if you're doing it as a way to 0.92

04:37:58.960 exalt them and to honor them in a greater way than cool but again a lot of a lot of thought

04:38:05.460 and a lot of hemming and hawing back and forth needs to be done in that kind of scenario

04:38:11.520 but we're not there and she is not even in the united states she's in british columbia so i think

04:38:16.960 that's that's that would be quite a thing to be able to accomplish especially not being any direct

04:38:26.480 kin to her finwraith is martial arts useful in military combat spawn what say you um

04:38:37.040 Um, yes. And I say that with a, yeah, about it because it's mainly if your combat mission

04:38:46.720 at a certain point changes to perhaps not being, um, uh, you know, not killing your opponent,

04:38:56.820 it might be crowd control. There's lots of possibilities there. Um, then yes, it does

04:39:02.280 have function it also has function in the sense that if you ever find yourself in a compromised

04:39:07.360 position and you're trying to maintain your weapon or maintain the situation um yes and i guess you

04:39:14.480 know like bayonet fighting knife fighting i was one of the last marines they were thinking about

04:39:19.900 getting rid of the bayonet and i got a chance to learn in um bayonet fighting and sentry removal

04:39:27.560 is a class that I took in Okinawa and it was one of the last ones and then they ended up not

04:39:34.260 getting rid of the bayonet and I guess who knows what happened after that but as far as classes go

04:39:39.860 but being able to rely on that and I spoke to marines who actually used their knives on

04:39:47.660 opponents one in particular that stuck out to me was one in Somalia he actually fought someone in

04:39:55.900 a kitchen simply because he was moving through the space of this apartment building uh place and

04:40:03.860 um his weapon crossed the threshold of the of the the little space that the person was hiding in

04:40:10.080 and when they opened the door it clipped his uh rifle and he he lost grip on it and the first

04:40:16.180 thing he did was turn around and he um if you go in through the top above the right in the middle of

04:40:22.540 the, the, um, clavicle, you can actually with a seven inch or bigger knife, uh, sever the top

04:40:29.420 aorta and they will bleed up very, very swiftly. And that's what, that's what he did. And that's

04:40:34.640 what they train us to do. And I mean, you hear about people like in Vietnam and happened all

04:40:40.700 the time, but that was the one that really stuck out to me is like, in a modern sense,

04:40:44.280 he was caught and instinctively went into that mode um but it also fosters a warrior spirit

04:40:54.280 and i think that's the most important thing so

04:40:56.880 finraith asks have you guys or do you know anyone who has competed in a martial arts competition

04:41:07.560 or in MMA?

04:41:11.320 Swan, what say you?

04:41:13.720 Yes.

04:41:15.460 Well, like I did competition, but that was Taekwondo.

04:41:18.840 And like I said, I went to Korea to even compete there.

04:41:24.300 I've never been in like an MMA tournament or anything of that nature,

04:41:28.180 but I do know a lot of people who have, yes.

04:41:31.660 Men and women, actually.

04:41:33.060 a good friend of mine his daughter is a um is a you know semi-pro um jiu-jitsu and and muay thai

04:41:43.220 fighter so but uh yes uh yes i have known some i knew a family where

04:41:55.540 one of the brothers dave and his sister gina competed in mma

04:42:00.980 um dave did so quite a bit i'm not sure how much gina did um not any kind of high competitive

04:42:12.020 level that i'm aware of but yeah i've known people who've competed in that that's become

04:42:18.020 quite popular lately um i don't know if it's obscure the mazani's dave mazani dave the pain train

04:42:30.980 and his sister, Gina.

04:42:33.520 They're both really cool.

04:42:34.760 I was really good friends with their brother, Matt.

04:42:38.360 Does Svahn know any Icelandic people?

04:42:41.580 Does Svahn know are Icelandic people?

04:42:45.260 I'm sorry.

04:42:45.940 I know I can read.

04:42:47.320 I'm just not demonstrating that scene.

04:42:49.940 Does Svahn know are Icelandic people, on average,

04:42:53.980 stronger and bigger than other people

04:42:56.200 since they do dominate the strongest man competition?

04:43:00.980 um no i mean there are a lot of strong men that come out of it there's a lot of uh

04:43:10.300 everything between actual like heavy heavy lifting and and crossfit which is also another

04:43:16.380 big thing in iceland there are a lot of fit people but if you're talking about like the giant borns

04:43:23.300 the ones that are like big um no they're not actually that common um that's what makes them

04:43:29.440 so spectacular up there um you have like uh yon paul and magnus ver magnus son and have thought

04:43:38.640 and those are the only three i mean to be fair in the strongman competition i mean i think those are

04:43:44.080 the only three that i can recall that have won um which doesn't you know like a lot of brits have

04:43:50.160 won and a lot of americans have won as well so i don't know marius puginowski's dominated when he

04:43:57.040 was doing it yeah i would say i don't know if icelanders dominated in it but they they've

04:44:02.480 they've had wayneans the journalist vickis was doing pretty good yeah they have there's guys

04:44:08.960 from elsewhere too i just i think no it's it's there's there's been there are a lot of them up

04:44:15.440 there um but of that magnitude like the it filters out and you have these three big names um everybody

04:44:23.680 knows them everybody talks about them there's even a a museum dedicated to jan paul and um

04:44:32.000 uh magnus for magnus and still makes you know uh what is it appearances and stuff like that but

04:44:38.640 did you go to the young paul sigmarsson like theme park no not theme

04:44:46.320 you get to ride on his arms no no no yeah i went to the dollywood right

04:44:52.320 the what like gollywood yeah no no it was just like a like a dedicated a small museum dedicated

04:45:01.520 to a lot of uh the things he did because i will say one thing is he exemplified um uh

04:45:09.520 his attitude he was he was very very masculine but he was and very very dominant he wanted to

04:45:16.800 dominate but he was also very kind and uh he knew that he was representing his country so he was um

04:45:24.960 he was a a really cool mixture of being uh you know he would not shy away from people if they

04:45:33.680 challenged him he was very very upfront about it and he you know i'm the strongest you know he'd

04:45:38.240 say that all the time but um at the same time he was very very nice so that was kind of cool

04:45:42.960 i didn't know a lot about his personal life say this for americans uh bill casimir would destroy

04:45:48.960 any of those people all of those people at once bill casimir strongest man's ever lived

04:45:55.920 in the universe bar none um also extremely nice guy if you ask him to explain or talk about

04:46:08.160 technique and things it's unintelligible because he's just like farm strong he's that guy that

04:46:19.280 just knows how to do it and he does it um but one time i shook his hand so anyways he would come up

04:46:27.100 to uh i was born and raised in anchorage alaska he would come up to alaska he had like a fishing

04:46:31.320 show he would do every summer because he was an avid fisherman so he'd come up there for that

04:46:36.620 and he actually did uh announcing at the highland games up there so i competed in some of the

04:46:45.220 highland games he would announce and i got to shake his hand a couple of times he's actually

04:46:49.620 training at the gym i was at up there and i get to go you know i had to i had to go shake the guy's

04:46:53.880 hand whatever and fanboy for a second his hand was so muscular it was like convex instead of

04:47:04.240 concave it was strange trying to shake his hand because it was just so meaty it was ridiculous

04:47:12.000 um but also really cool guy a lot of those strongman competitors are really really cool guys

04:47:18.800 um wolf throne asks what are your thoughts on red ice tv they made pro or they make pro-white

04:47:25.280 political content but they seem to be vaguely odinous um i really like henrik and lana personally

04:47:32.080 i've met them several times um they're great people they have nice families i've been on red ice

04:47:42.480 a couple of times i think it was on lana show radio 314 for one time um but no they're awesome

04:47:51.760 i really like them i haven't listened a lot because i think sometimes it ventures into the

04:47:58.480 doom porn thing and i don't want to focus on that all the time i want to focus on what we're building

04:48:05.200 um but yeah i really like them we've had them at at least two different afa events i'm aware of

04:48:13.840 they're certainly welcome um they're fantastic they're here right now i'd say hi and you know

04:48:20.320 shake his hand and give her a hug and it'd all be good um but yeah i think really highly of them and

04:48:24.960 their family i think they're great what are your thoughts fun yeah i um follow mainly on x but

04:48:35.920 you know and and occasionally on youtube whenever i get a chance i'll i'll definitely

04:48:40.800 poke in um yeah i think uh i mean in a in a in a perfect world um i i would hope i would

04:48:49.760 wish that they were more like you know uh prominent uh members and um you know proudly

04:48:57.920 carried the banner and i know they have children now and you know raising children in the faith is

04:49:02.720 important and having a community that supports you instead of villainizes you um which i know is

04:49:08.960 is a thing that they have to face sometimes a lot of times and um you know i wish that wasn't

04:49:15.280 And I wish they could accept a little bit more of that, but no, they're awesome.

04:49:20.640 They're great.

04:49:21.340 I just, I really, I had, I had a chance to meet them and I didn't get that chance because things went all haywire, but, um, yeah, I like them.

04:49:34.720 Svon forsook the opportunity to meet the Palm Grids. 0.86

04:49:38.700 No, no, no. 0.85

04:49:40.040 You're here, folks.

04:49:41.800 it was uh it was other things that got in the way i was with divergent in the road and he chose

04:49:50.120 no palm greens no no i was i was with founder mcnallan at the time and it didn't work out

04:49:57.160 he was going to be on and i i had a chance to meet him and i wasn't going to be any known

04:50:02.760 quantity i was just going to you know here be in the shadow of founder mcnallen but it didn't work

04:50:08.280 out um question what uh from raven questions uh what actions or behaviors are considered

04:50:18.600 unforgivable within the afa or what aspects of the afa are held in such high regard that they

04:50:26.840 must never be compromised so the second half is a little bit more thought-provoking than the first

04:50:41.960 um there's there's always room for the crazy out of left field thing that you wouldn't imagine

04:50:53.560 Fundamentally, the things that will get you removed from membership and never allowed to rejoin are first and foremost, safety concerns, like existential concerns or safety concerns involving children and families. 0.89

04:51:18.680 So, yeah, if you are a child molester or if you are a male homosexual, you're not allowed

04:51:37.240 in the AFA and you're not allowed to ever rejoin the AFA. 0.97

04:51:42.200 Those are fundamental for the safety of our children.

04:51:48.680 If you have tried to destroy the AFA in any way, through treachery, through whatever you do,

04:52:03.560 if you have actively tried to hurt the AFA itself, you are not allowed to rejoin the AFA and you are not welcome.

04:52:12.040 It's unforgivable.

04:52:12.820 And the reason for that is we can't ever trust that you will not do that again and risking

04:52:23.540 the existence of the Austria Folk Assembly is not an acceptable risk, no matter what.

04:52:31.600 And with the sexual things I mentioned earlier, not only are they unforgivable, maybe on the

04:52:37.580 face of them certainly in the child molestation situation but both of those are a break in the

04:52:47.020 psyche that doesn't change and cannot be repaired and for the existence of that person represent

04:52:55.420 a clear and present threat to the safety of our children

04:52:58.780 there are a variety of things that would require 0.99

04:53:08.780 some serious conversations and making some different things right for people to rejoin

04:53:16.600 but we want to err on the side of all of our people having like i mentioned earlier what

04:53:26.860 what does victory look like what would it take for us to say okay for these people to come back

04:53:34.140 or to join us and there's usually an answer to that question that that exists that may be more

04:53:42.620 extreme in some cases than others depending upon what the situation is as far as what uh

04:53:50.700 Aspects of the affair held in such high regard, they can't be compromised.

04:54:01.940 Our being explicitly folkish is something that is a fundamental that can't be compromised.

04:54:10.180 Our stance on homosexuality and LGBTQ+, whatever the term is now, that can't be compromised.

04:54:26.960 Our devotion to the Iseer cannot be compromised.

04:54:31.680 i think those are the ones that come to mind

04:54:41.640 um swan might have some other ones but he has disappeared perhaps he's getting some food because

04:54:48.520 that guy's hungry and i don't blame him uh cody my question uh my question we may have

04:54:58.280 we have many different gods who all hold power over different things do you alter each god

04:55:06.680 um i think this means alter like building a harrow yeah i so if you can do that awesome that'd be

04:55:15.160 fantastic um in my home no i have one altar that i use as both an altar for the gods and also for

04:55:25.880 the ancestors i know some people separate out an altar for the ancestors than a different one for

04:55:33.720 the gods and you can certainly you can have an altar for grandpa an altar for grandma and an

04:55:40.120 altar for thor you can have as many altars as you want but i don't think it is a necessity that you

04:55:46.360 have an individual altar to each of the either ancestors or gods that you want to approach

04:55:55.880 what's the use fun uh i just everything you said and to piggyback on that um at our hoffs

04:56:03.760 generally the um house or of the of the hoff has their own harrow and then we have like a

04:56:11.400 utilitarian harrow in the center that's utilized um so that's you know something that i think has

04:56:19.180 developed just quite recently within, um, you know, the faith because we have, we have Hoffs.

04:56:26.020 So, um, the other is, is, um, for, uh, the, the idols as I guess would be the Roman-ish word for

04:56:35.680 it, the, the, the statues and things that you can move and, and center around. Some people will have

04:56:43.240 one harrow and they'll move their i call them godsteads the place in which the the you ask

04:56:49.720 the gods to take seat in your home is the the um whether it's a statue or a or even a

04:56:59.640 maybe a picture on a plaque um or what have you um having the godstead of the particular

04:57:09.000 aus or ausenia that you're honoring front and center in the harrow is generally what people do

04:57:15.000 and then they move the other godsteads elsewhere or like in my home i have a tripartite

04:57:22.520 um of lord odin thor and tear and sometimes i will um also kind of move into that um

04:57:33.160 the holy fray but yeah having multiple uh godsteads is kind of how that is worked about

04:57:41.880 all right um

04:57:46.280 istvon asks from twitch uh does being an admirer of thor make one a son of odin someone walked by

04:57:56.280 me and saw my tattoo and said ah a son of odin i like thor because he is also a protector of

04:58:03.400 the common man and doesn't require sacrifice or because of odin statues does that make me a son

04:58:12.760 um i don't know that thor does or does not require sacrifice i think you make offerings

04:58:19.560 to gods because that's what you do and it's part of worship in the gift cycle

04:58:23.080 um yeah loosely i mean

04:58:28.960 yo dog thor's my homie doesn't make you a son of odin that is different choosing to have an

04:58:40.580 affinity for thor being one of our folk does make first being one of our folk in general

04:58:48.460 makes you a son of odin whether you want to be or not now i have no idea who you are who asked

04:58:54.700 the question if you're not one of our folks but you do admire thor and no it doesn't make you a

04:58:59.740 son of odin but you know that's that's nice that you show admiration for him um but yeah if you're

04:59:09.580 one of our if you're one of our people if you're white folks you are a son of odin whether you

04:59:14.140 want to be or not now you can choose to embrace being a son of them or you can you know not

04:59:21.180 acknowledge that but it is the case regardless because he's the one who along with his brothers

04:59:29.180 billy and they made us us uh we'll throw matt i don't know we already asked that

04:59:38.380 ah finwraith do you guys have a dog or another pet i've got three cats at present um if you

04:59:48.140 would have asked me i think i'm a dog person rather than a cat person but cats are what we

04:59:53.420 got and i love my cats i used to be pretty allergic but mandy had a bunch of cats surprisingly i got

05:00:00.620 really less allergic really quick which was very strange it was kind of a strange thing so i uh

05:00:07.740 When I met Mandy, I lived in Alaska, and she lived in Florida.

05:00:12.580 And I moved down to be with her and pursue that relationship around Yule of 2014.

05:00:22.640 One of the last memories I remember in Alaska when I lived there.

05:00:27.860 Man, that's funny.

05:00:29.100 It's 10 years ago this year.

05:00:30.680 Anyways, so when I left, the last things was a Yule event I was at.

05:00:37.740 and this guy he had two cats man i was so allergic to cats my eyes swole up like i was in a boxing

05:00:48.380 match i couldn't see out of my eyes i was so teared up and swollen it was disgusting

05:00:55.280 i moved down to florida and within about a month i moved in with mandy she had three cats

05:01:03.520 i started out the dander would get to me and man within just a couple of weeks my allergy was gone

05:01:11.820 it was it was amazing um so we've had cats ever since got three cats they're different cats

05:01:19.040 um because cats have a limited lifespan but these uh yeah i love my cats i think

05:01:26.260 once we are at

05:01:28.760 Sigerheim, we probably have a dog or two.

05:01:31.700 We've got cats right now.

05:01:33.240 Svon, what do you have for pets?

05:01:36.900 I

05:01:37.420 just

05:01:39.000 lost my dog

05:01:39.900 this Sunday. It's past Sunday.

05:01:43.480 She was 11 years old

05:01:44.840 and she was

05:01:46.780 my companion.

05:01:49.280 She traveled everywhere with me.

05:01:52.100 And she 0.81

05:01:52.860 was a sweet

05:01:53.480 uh dog very self-trained uh she wouldn't run away or run after things she wouldn't go through

05:02:01.200 doors unless i told her to come on through and she did that all on her own i never trained her

05:02:05.080 or none of that but i lost her it was a very um terrible weekend um i also have three cats

05:02:15.400 and all three of them are rescued because of me

05:02:18.440 um i love animals in general and um we have one cat that was uh found at my wife's work

05:02:27.600 beautiful siamese he's um he looks like something like drawn it's he looks fake he's that kind of

05:02:36.620 um we call him the supermodel because he just looks so like even siamese cats with their blue

05:02:43.420 eyes they sometimes have cross-eyed none of that he's just he looks picturesque and then um

05:02:50.940 uh and his name is uh is osin which is uh because i that's a long story anyways but um and then we

05:03:00.220 have uh two other cats another one i found in my backyard her throat was ripped open um and so i

05:03:06.060 ended up calling a vet and having them you know come to the house and we got her stitched up and

05:03:11.420 got a cone put on her head and all of the abscess was drained and the vet was like well i wouldn't 0.64

05:03:16.700 let her out into the wild i ended up having to trap her in our backyard and uh she ended up just

05:03:23.340 staying she we thought she was going to be feral and she was she isn't she's one of the nicest of

05:03:28.700 the of the cats and then the last one was a a friend was moving to maryland and he had to get 0.95

05:03:33.180 rid of an animal so i was like i'll take him and he's just a really big old dumb fat cat who drinks 0.92

05:03:40.620 shower water and puts his head into shoes he's got issues 0.99

05:03:47.660 uh wolf throne ron mcvan breaks down the arians into five large groups the celts the teutons

05:03:56.220 the slavs the latins and the greeks would you agree with this categorization as far as

05:04:03.660 for the last thousand years absolutely see you spawn

05:04:09.300 you bring that up for the last five thousand years because we i just said one thousand or one

05:04:22.080 thousand i mean sorry yeah i mean there is i would say there's still eastern arians to be honest

05:04:31.160 beyond europe um i believe that there are arian folk in um areas like in afghanistan

05:04:41.320 that there there are our eastern brothers that do exist somewhere i don't know that they exist in

05:04:48.440 large enough quantities for me to count them right but there are pockets and enclaves and

05:04:54.120 i don't write that off i think that if you ask the question large groups 2 000 years ago i would

05:05:01.400 include the persian and indian nobility but that goes into the way back yeah um finn wraith asks

05:05:13.720 what's your favorite fan or is a fantasy series inspired by norse mythology or other european

05:05:19.080 myths in history i don't read fantasy stuff i read uh i tend to only read non-fiction what's

05:05:28.440 a useful one um inspired by i mean i guess the only thing i can really say would be robert e

05:05:36.600 howard's conan and that's because he did use like there was vanaheim and ausgard and and

05:05:45.800 And he just had some, he was inspired by, I would say, Norse things.

05:05:53.240 Outside of that, I can't think of anything that was inspired by our faith.

05:06:03.780 I know my son has a book called The Rune Warriors, and it shows like a young man with a shield and like a hammer.

05:06:14.400 but um i haven't read it but so i don't know if that's the only thing i could think of so

05:06:24.560 spawn uh brought to mind yes i enjoy robert howard stories as well been

05:06:33.760 15 years or more since i read one but yes i did enjoy those uh the wolf throne asks

05:06:40.640 it's a very interesting question would the afa consider a line with intelligent alien life forms

05:06:49.680 to create an intergalactic hyperborean spacecraft for the purpose of galaxy colonization holy crap

05:06:59.120 wolf throne that's awesome that's a great question that's a highly speculative um fun

05:07:09.840 sci-fi question uh at least for the time being so spectacular

05:07:21.760 yes the afa would consider

05:07:26.640 various relationships with various different life forms depending upon our needs and whether they

05:07:34.400 coincided or not if there were a alien race that was like hey cool uh afa we got that we'll hook

05:07:44.720 you up with a spaceship to where you can colonize the galaxy with your you know amazing arian afa

05:07:53.680 family let's do this absolutely but um with any kind of official alliance between the astro folk

05:08:01.840 assembly and another organized body of peoples be they terrestrial or extraterrestrial it would

05:08:11.920 take consideration of the fine print because the devil's in the details but conceptually yes i

05:08:18.240 would do that swan do you have any caveats to add to that potential alliance uh i can only speak

05:08:26.800 from counsel i i do not head the afa and so if you said we're gonna we're gonna consider it then

05:08:34.720 i would render unto me your counsel yes i i again i was you already you already uh

05:08:42.480 leaned on it i would no i would need to know the details of this situation very much so and and

05:08:47.760 and also perhaps the motive as to why um and and ultimately would it benefit us or not at the end

05:08:54.880 of the day those three things i would have to consider um the details the motivation of the

05:09:00.960 people offering in their in this and will it ultimately be better for us and again can we

05:09:08.400 can we come back can this is our home this is our land you know the mid guard um

05:09:16.960 as a fundamental and steve has always mentioned this our founder steven weekn allen was always

05:09:22.480 kind of fascinated about space and science fiction to a degree and i guess science futurism to i

05:09:33.680 guess a different degree um as long as we are bound to earth there is an expiration date

05:09:46.880 like the sun at some point burns out goes nova no longer is there

05:09:54.020 so the point that he always posited on which we secure the complete future of our folk

05:10:04.640 is when we can colonize systems beyond our solar system

05:10:12.560 because then we don't have that same clock and we have the variable to escape the inevitable

05:10:20.760 decay of our sun and it's the middle of the night and we have gone into a strange place

05:10:29.720 so i have been entertaining this conversation as far as it goes

05:10:34.400 um i think that's a thing and that's why i am as favorably inclined towards it as i am

05:10:43.280 ah kevin t is it a lot that i want 20 kids i know we have an anti-baby culture now especially

05:10:54.400 amongst whites obviously we should have the resources and time to have them but

05:11:00.240 are large families necessary um i don't know that large families are necessary having many 0.95

05:11:10.160 children is a blessing and that's great if you can do that i think 20 is pretty extreme um

05:11:19.440 yeah i think 20 is is is it a lot that i want 20 yes that is a lot

05:11:28.640 best i got to offer on that's fine do you think 20 children is a lot

05:11:31.760 um and we'll see this much yes 20 children is a lot okay do you think that large families are

05:11:40.560 necessary no uh and and hear me out on this one i have from my experience uh some family

05:11:54.400 who are catholic and they have a great many children uh and they are blessed and they're

05:11:59.520 good good folk however um a lot of them i feel have frayed off from the main line of the family

05:12:08.800 especially as they've gotten older um whereas i feel that with a perhaps maybe just slightly

05:12:16.000 smaller group uh and and again it's about the timing in which they're born in between and so

05:12:21.600 on and so forth the quality of time they get with their parents the ability for the parents to be

05:12:29.040 able to teach the children and spend time with them that quality time creates um people that

05:12:36.560 have substantial value um in our in our future uh and i think a lot of times with overly large

05:12:43.840 families you lose some of that and that it leads the kids to kind of be influenced outside of

05:12:52.240 simply their parents and their faith um that's that's just a slight observation on my end but

05:13:00.000 at the same time too you got don't forget the big thing is is um you need to find a

05:13:06.800 a woman that you love and then then the consideration is if you if you married

05:13:13.120 and fell in love with a woman and she wasn't able to give you 20 kids is it over then

05:13:17.360 you know that's that that's a big it's a layering of things you got to find someone that you love

05:13:26.400 and that you're that are you are able to be with together and work through the challenges of your

05:13:31.160 life and the challenges of modernity and having children on top of that means that you need to be

05:13:37.460 able to physically be able to do it have the timing to do it and make sure you hit that right

05:13:43.740 amount of quantity and quality. That's, I think, the more important thing that you should consider

05:13:50.220 as opposed to just like, I want 20. I want a small army. I hear people say that. I know they're kind

05:13:55.900 of joking, but not joking, but there's other steps there. 20 with the same woman, that's extreme.

05:14:04.880 yeah i don't think that would happen there's a lot of

05:14:11.040 ebbing you gentlemen that have 20 but they are not by the same uh by the same mothers

05:14:25.440 that's it it's not being rude it's a thing um but again the quality of the children that they lose

05:14:32.880 yeah and there's very little relationship it seems between parent child and that at least

05:14:38.560 father and child um and wraith asks what do you think of political movements that use nordic

05:14:45.600 symbols or the name of norse gods like the nordic resistance movement or the soldiers of odin

05:14:53.680 um swan do you want to respond to that yeah i got a really basic answer um

05:14:59.040 um if they are nordic or if they are germanic or if they're of the folk and it then they have

05:15:07.720 absolutely every heritage right to use those symbols i mean it would be different like it's

05:15:14.960 that's kind of like asking if the native americans i know there were some native american groups that

05:15:19.280 were like of course leaning heavily into communism which is ironic to me on a lot of different levels

05:15:25.820 but um they would use imagery from that um whereas um you know they i think they have the right to do

05:15:38.360 that even though they're applying it to you know whatever political means they have so yeah i think

05:15:43.540 they they have that right um so i wanna

05:15:55.700 there's symbolism that i think is appropriate attaching the names of our gods to something

05:16:05.700 i think is a little bit different that's a fair point and i don't think it's a 100

05:16:12.260 percent no but i think you need okay so when the left does it we absolutely despise it when the

05:16:23.700 left claims our gods to champion their degenerate issues it is the height of sacrilege and it's

05:16:34.980 pauling so if one were to do that i think that we have a modern day misnomer that anything actionable

05:16:48.340 is somehow politics versus something else and it doesn't always work like that

05:16:54.420 there are economic issues there are social issues politics doesn't mean anything um

05:17:02.100 um there's a lot of issues that have a political expression that are absolutely religious in nature

05:17:10.980 and that are completely appropriate for us to invoke the names of our gods on when they are

05:17:18.900 very clearly something that our gods support or don't support but to co-opt our gods for

05:17:29.220 political issues that you do not have a surety that they are in complete support of is grossly

05:17:39.640 inappropriate. And so I would caution that. There is a wide spectrum of political things that are

05:17:50.940 in general alignment to our faith. There's also a very broad spectrum of political ideologies that

05:17:57.920 are absolutely antithetical to our faith.

05:18:03.800 So using cultural and ethnic symbology

05:18:12.000 is appropriate as long as it's used by the people

05:18:14.740 that those of those cultures and ethnicities

05:18:18.640 using invoking the names of our gods for political causes.

05:18:27.920 And one ought to be quadruply sure that the gods do in fact support that position.

05:18:39.560 And I would be very hesitant to do so except for the most extreme situations.

05:18:45.800 Wolf Throne asks, are we the true Israelites?

05:18:49.500 And what are the roots of this ideology?

05:18:51.680 No, we're not the true Israelites. 0.97

05:18:53.340 That's ridiculous. 1.00

05:18:54.620 this um the roots are British people having trouble 0.97

05:19:06.320 fully making a hard break with a thousand years of Christianity

05:19:13.880 but knowing the need to embrace

05:19:17.420 our folk and our native religious expression and trying to somehow find

05:19:26.160 a compromise position between those two things it's very much a trying to force a square peg

05:19:35.660 into a round hole and it is a uncomfortable amount of mental gymnastics to try to make

05:19:45.880 what simply is not true somehow look like it's sort of true or could pot I feel and again it's

05:19:54.680 really easy to it's very easy to find that laughable and be insulting as I mentioned with

05:20:01.700 Alexander Rudd Mills a number of people in the early resurgence of our faith had that struggle

05:20:07.800 and couldn't quite make it all the way and they tried various degrees of bridging the two and

05:20:15.400 slowly working their way back and if that's a process i understand that that i understand how

05:20:22.600 that works um but no british israelism and the idea that you know we're the true israelites

05:20:30.180 that's absurd it's just historically not true and it's also

05:20:38.860 trying to think of the analogy and it's too late for me to have the perfect one

05:20:45.180 But it's just not true. 0.95

05:20:50.280 And it's silly. 0.58

05:20:54.300 You can't reject the Jewish influence of Christianity, which is a reformation of Judaism, by trying to be some kind of different flavor of Hebrew. 0.93

05:21:09.740 That's not how that works. 0.67

05:21:12.560 And I feel very bad for folks that can't figure their way out of that, you know, desperately dishonest position.

05:21:31.640 Brannis, Matt, what are your best lifts, past and present?

05:21:38.300 So, deadlifts have always been good for me.

05:21:41.260 my knees have always been poor for squats to go really heavy and I don't have the speed

05:21:49.260 I think my arms are a little bit long to get the kind of bench press I wish I could get

05:21:54.440 best bench I ever got was 395 that was a long time ago my rotator cuffs aren't such that I can

05:22:01.980 really do that now best deadlift 620 proud of that one that was awesome um but that was

05:22:11.220 a long time ago, I think that's a lot of joint stress

05:22:14.580 and be difficult, but I'm so going to claim it.

05:22:16.520 I love that.

05:22:18.180 Again, I'm not fast.

05:22:19.900 I've never been one who could lift fast.

05:22:22.020 So some of the powerlifting where you're really trying

05:22:24.340 to accelerate quickly, I've never been great at.

05:22:33.200 If I had an exercise, I could tell you kind of what I do

05:22:36.020 on it now or what I don't.

05:22:37.660 But I haven't trained one rep maxes in a long time.

05:22:42.680 You know, just, I guess, a sampling.

05:22:45.580 I was doing, you know, deadlifts for sets of eight.

05:22:49.640 I'm doing like 350 for sets of eight.

05:22:55.180 Bent over rows, I'm doing 260 for sets of eight.

05:23:02.680 I'm trying to think of something that translates.

05:23:04.600 I'm doing a lot of machine work lately because of my joints.

05:23:07.660 like really strict drag curls for like sets of eight.

05:23:14.160 I'm doing 45s.

05:23:26.720 Yes, what I got right now, I can tell you more specifics

05:23:29.520 that are really specific questions.

05:23:31.100 That's kind of the best I got.

05:23:33.400 I did a couple of strongman things that were pretty cool.

05:23:35.920 I did a farmer's walk.

05:23:38.380 for 100 yards with 275 per hand was train axles with

05:23:48.700 attachments on the end to load plates on them and rebar welded on his handles

05:23:56.060 and that was awesome because the rebar dug into your hands it was really it was such a cool feeling

05:24:03.820 because you stood up and everybody's yelling at me to go and like move you're supposed to make

05:24:08.620 these little choppy steps and move my body was so overwhelmed my brain is telling my legs to

05:24:17.340 move and they would not move like it took a it took a longer than it should conversation between

05:24:26.380 my brain and legs to make them move and at the end because it had dug in so much i couldn't let go

05:24:36.060 of the of the two apparatuses got to the end and i had to like summon all of my strength and

05:24:44.940 force my hands to let like forcibly let go because they were just so stuck in that position

05:24:54.540 that was really cool the other cool thing that same day at that competition is we got to do this

05:24:59.180 truck pull i forget how many thousands of pounds it was a semi with a trailer on it

05:25:06.700 we're doing this rope pull again for the same amount of distance but like the rope was attached

05:25:11.020 to a fixed object at the end we're just pulling the rope and and and driving the spin pulling this

05:25:17.660 truck and it was awesome to be able to get this massive truck moving and go that distance with it

05:25:26.140 and to have generated so much momentum that you hear them at the end have to hit the airbrake

05:25:32.700 to make sure it doesn't smash you between you know whatever the rope was affixed to i think

05:25:38.300 it was the back of another vehicle but so i didn't get smashed by the momentum i had generated from

05:25:43.740 that truck to have put its air brakes on that was really cool i think it was like 15 000 pounds or

05:25:51.420 something the truck but that sounds really cool not everyone could do that farmer's walk everyone

05:26:00.220 could do the truck pull or could at least get it moving um but it was a really cool feeling nonetheless

05:26:07.020 uh wolf throne have either of you seen the north man it's a viking themed uh or viking film that

05:26:15.500 came out a couple of years back swan did you ever watch the north man nope i have not i have not seen

05:26:22.380 the vikings i haven't seen the northmen i haven't seen the last kingdom uh no mainly the reason is

05:26:28.940 because i don't have a lot of time um to to sit down and watch movies and things of that nature

05:26:36.380 like i really just i don't it doesn't have time for your trivial nonsense no no so i've heard

05:26:43.580 things about it i know that bjork is in it but she plays a slavic priestess of some sort

05:26:50.220 and i heard it was very very brutal um i don't know how i know they messed around with dental

05:26:59.900 stuff i saw a picture where they um because they had found a skeleton with a golden band

05:27:05.500 and the teeth they they implied some of that into the into the movie uh i don't know to what degree

05:27:10.540 or or how or why but um the picture was of a woman that that i did notice but um yeah i haven't seen

05:27:18.060 it so i i watched the northmen and best that i understand it's like the great granddaddy of hamlet

05:27:30.460 that's what it's based on is like the danish

05:27:35.980 story that evolved into hamlet or that served as a source material for hamlet

05:27:41.740 there were some things that were cool but it defaults to the like grungy mad max interpretation

05:27:51.980 of the viking age that just wasn't how it was these people weren't just filthy barbarians

05:27:59.180 covered in their own you know leavings it wasn't everybody wasn't filthy and gross there were bright 0.97

05:28:09.020 colors there was you know i have mentioned this before but you know going to the the viking section

05:28:17.740 of the museum in sweden in stockholm it's telling that you know a massive chunk of the

05:28:27.020 The archaeological material we find is grooming stuff.

05:28:33.000 It's stuff based around like trying to look nice. 0.97

05:28:38.840 Bathing was something our ancestors did that offended the Christians because they bathed too much. 0.92

05:28:46.300 this like make everything dirty and gross and grungy and barbarous is a real disservice to

05:28:58.580 our ancestors and you know very noble and dignified people and that's i'm sure there

05:29:07.060 was plenty of occasion that things were rough and tumble and and uh brutal and grungy in the time but

05:29:15.060 But not everything, not all the time, not royalty, not the nobility, not what.

05:29:22.140 They made it dirtier than it needed to be.

05:29:24.960 And I don't like the default to that.

05:29:31.140 Raven asks, question, what is one exercise that is most beneficial to health?

05:29:37.340 The squat.

05:29:38.760 Squat is the best exercise.

05:29:40.560 The king of exercises is universally understood to be so.

05:29:43.720 It works the greatest percentage of your muscle mass.

05:29:49.040 In doing so, it works so many of the stabilizing muscles of both your upper and your lower body.

05:29:55.800 It works your core heavily.

05:29:59.340 And because it works so much of your muscle groups, it releases the most testosterone into your system.

05:30:06.960 It's the best all-around workout.

05:30:09.100 If you can't do that because you have knee problems or some other malady, deadlift is a second.

05:30:17.080 That's what I say.

05:30:18.580 Svon, do you have an opinion on what the one exercise that is the most beneficial in health might be?

05:30:25.140 I was, yes, squat.

05:30:27.700 When I was in Iraq, we had nothing. 0.99

05:30:31.140 We did Hindu squats, no weights.

05:30:34.340 We just did hundreds of them.

05:30:35.920 um uh it is one of the best work like exercise to do um is it the most fun no it is it is painful

05:30:47.540 and sketchy if you're not in a rack and you're doing some weight that you feel like it's going

05:30:51.860 to press you if you don't have that rack um be very very careful but i i'm i even got to the

05:30:57.780 point where i could do no rack and i could um stand the bar up and kind of angle it up and

05:31:03.160 over and onto my shoulders and then just do squats like that. Um, but the other thing I was

05:31:08.700 going to say is my go-to is always deadlifts. I prefer to do that. Um, and, or, and Romanian

05:31:14.780 deadlifts. And then my third exercise, the one that I think doesn't get enough love is the pull

05:31:19.880 up. I think that for, for upper body, um, the pull and your, and your arms, the pull up needs

05:31:27.640 some love because that is a great exercise ah what is the relationship of the uh vanir and the

05:31:40.440 icier the vanir had sibling marriage which the icier rejected but let freya and frayer stay with

05:31:50.040 them we've been through this a lot um the distinction is only really relevant

05:31:57.560 in the most ancient of times before the first war was resolved

05:32:05.400 the isir are the gods of cosmic order the vanir are the more cathartic gods of

05:32:13.960 natural process natural law of fecundity and you know the primal things of the world of nature

05:32:25.720 them coming into alignment at the resolution of that first war every god that you hear about that

05:32:33.880 is named is amongst the iser and as such are referred to for the rest of our lore as iser

05:32:44.440 they are incorporated into the iser and that is that is their relationships why do you have anything

05:32:51.640 to add on that yeah the that alignment part uh lord and the other and and the holy fray are

05:32:58.200 referred to as the best of the ouse um but yeah i think one way if you're coming if morris taylor's

05:33:05.000 coming at this from a not or very very new or not even just um yeah the the gods of of cosmic order

05:33:14.600 of the sky and of light and of fire uh and the gods of natural law water and earth they come

05:33:22.680 into alignment and they have dominion both here in the middle and above um but the the part where

05:33:30.520 it says they the the vanir had sibling marriage um one i there's two things on that one one is

05:33:37.960 either snorri was lending to the stories as they were coming in so he's prefacing it but at most

05:33:46.200 a lot of folks think that this refers back to an Iron Age migrational period of the Aryans moving

05:33:53.720 into a Stone Age Aryan group that had already settled into Europe, or Bronze Age, and that

05:34:01.880 they had different cultural ties. So if it takes place in the non-mythic sense, there's belief

05:34:13.640 that that a lot of the the two families of the gods were have been coalesced and compared to

05:34:20.360 these time frames within our history and that may be where that specifically is mentioning it's just

05:34:26.280 like when the uh when um skavi chooses uh lord nyorth by his feet did she actually do that as a

05:34:36.280 divine being no and it doesn't it's making reference to a a wedding game so i think that a

05:34:45.320 lot of these things that kind of recognized for songwriting um i think a lot of these uh these

05:34:53.800 mentions come in from from uh cultural aspects mythos is like that it's like it's like a rope

05:35:01.960 you've got a lot of different pieces of twine coming together and uh sometimes cultural

05:35:07.080 references are brought in like um thor getting the hammer on his lap at at uh the wedding that he has

05:35:14.920 to uh fake being freya why would they do that that's a cultural reference to what was done

05:35:22.440 at actual weddings all right and then to cap off the evening

05:35:31.960 interesting one what are your thoughts on following an ancestral diet only eating foods

05:35:41.320 that are native to europe i hear the narana society is implementing this by researching

05:35:46.520 the diet of our ancestors do you think this is taking the ancestral thing too far i think that's 0.97

05:35:53.240 absolutely silly and ridiculous not only is it silly and ridiculous i think that is laughable 0.99

05:36:00.280 um yeah I think it's absolutely stupid and I'm sorry to say that I think that I appreciate 0.99

05:36:15.280 as an academic exercise being curious what our ancestors ate I think if as a cultural 0.98

05:36:23.500 expression you exploring the cuisine of your ancestors as a way to cook and bond with them

05:36:28.840 that's great that's wonderful but acting like we need to eat what our ancient ancestors ate 0.96

05:36:37.320 is the way to do things break out the shark that's first that's gross you're rotten sharks nasty 0.95

05:36:47.000 come on icelandic nonsense we're in a society better get some shark out 0.98

05:36:52.200 no that's absurd and it's this is this is a thing and it's important the backward facing nonsense

05:37:03.240 of that is offensive on the face if as a cultural thing because it's cool you want to try some ancient

05:37:10.920 recipe that's fine but why abandon the advancements of the last 2 000 years to

05:37:24.760 try to eat like primitive our ancestors would have given anything to have the options that we have

05:37:33.800 today due to our innovation to reject all of the ground that they covered in order to 0.96

05:37:42.680 pretend that we're old-timey vikings is a slap in the face for the last

05:37:49.480 you know 30 some generations that built and grew and achieved and developed and conquered and traded

05:37:59.240 and did things so that we could have things are delicious and make our lives better

05:38:07.880 the rejection of that to somehow deify most of our ancestors they didn't eat there were certain

05:38:14.920 things that probably had a ritual connotation but a lot of the time they ate what they ate

05:38:21.160 because they didn't want to starve and depending on where you were you ate the food that was

05:38:27.160 available to you and before your trade routes were really set up well before you were noble

05:38:35.320 or whatever you probably didn't season anything and you probably were thankful to have a warm meal

05:38:41.320 in your belly and that was probably enough to restrict our diet to that in some kind of

05:38:48.680 i don't know historical flagellation is 0.82

05:38:56.600 it's not just ludicrous it's offensive to me and it kind of disgusts me a little bit

05:39:04.920 what are your thoughts fawn i i'll be and this isn't me being a nice guy but i'll go 0.80

05:39:11.080 with a little bit more on the positive side you got the disapproval face like flying and

05:39:18.680 No, so I'm aware of, and I think there is some proclivity towards, you know, like the damages that maybe corn and wheat or sugar in and of itself has on the human body, modern advances there.

05:39:42.120 But I think that if you're trying to address those issues, you can address those with modern scientific knowledge. A lot of people that have studied and understand the dangers of what these kind of like sugars, in essence, would be a problem for you to take it back to a strictly historical sense.

05:40:05.100 it's kind of navel gazing it's kind of odd it's that's the part i don't quite understand is like

05:40:11.340 it's kind of like what i spoke about earlier like if our ancestors didn't have the ability to have

05:40:15.900 whiskey so you shouldn't give it to the gods that's a that's an insult and it's like no it's

05:40:21.740 not and and i mean our ancestors were innovative in a lot of ways they they um they accepted wine

05:40:29.500 that was a clear you know we know that for a fact that there you know mead was very hard to get but

05:40:35.580 they did make it they had cider and they had um ale but they also had wine that wasn't readily

05:40:41.020 available to them or at least the northern ancestors but um yeah food wise i think the

05:40:45.820 biggest thing would be to address sugar and you can do that with a lot of modern scientific data

05:40:51.660 of showing what that does.

05:40:56.560 You know, I missed it because I'm on there.

05:40:59.420 Well, in the comments, the McDonald's in Reykjavik, Iceland was closed down due to lack of customers.

05:41:07.700 The people rejected it.

05:41:09.180 They preferred goat balls.

05:41:11.280 Goat balls and fermented char.

05:41:14.640 Well, I mean.

05:41:19.960 Sorry.

05:41:21.400 mcdonald's actually prepared food i get crap versus quality food but to limit your quality

05:41:33.640 food to that which was accessible and how far back do you take it to perhaps stone age people 0.92

05:41:42.200 that's silly enjoy your food there's so many delicious things to eat out there don't be 0.56

05:41:54.220 ridiculous um make you can make healthy choices you can do a lot of things if you don't like 0.94

05:42:06.380 the way that current um agricultural practices create corn because i think old corn is probably 0.91

05:42:14.060 really different than today's corn or you know the over processing of wheat or whatever but especially

05:42:21.260 when you go back to europe wheat and like bread culture is such a huge part of european cuisine

05:42:28.780 tradition and the bread in europe's really different than the highly processed bread we

05:42:33.420 in here wanting to cut out some of the processed food all of that's beside the point trying to eat

05:42:41.740 like you're a caveman or a viking outside of just curiosity it's larpy beyond any justification and

05:42:55.100 and uh it will forever get my ulterior gothic disapproval in large measure um i ain't got time

05:43:04.460 for that it's fun do you have any more to add on this cuisine debacle yeah i think i mean i have a

05:43:14.300 uh cookbook called ancestral cooking and i it really opened me up to some things especially

05:43:20.860 like fermented things like um making sauerkraut and all that stuff and i think that's fun i think

05:43:26.140 it's fun to explore the palette of these things and um and like what you said the quality and

05:43:33.260 moving away from perhaps too much processing or modernity and and again i always emphasize just

05:43:39.500 the the uh dangers of sugar in and of itself whether it's natural or or um artificial or

05:43:46.620 or what have you um but i don't think it's something that would i wouldn't be wise to

05:43:55.500 occupy your entire time um doing and i mean again you got to be ready to go down because

05:44:03.420 having you know like a rabbit wrapped in the stomach of a cow um you know and fermented shark

05:44:11.260 and lutefisk and all that stuff um they did that because preservation was not

05:44:19.660 you know it was that it was the highest form of keeping your food as long as it could without it

05:44:23.740 spoiling so that when you didn't have food you wouldn't die um i mean i don't know i i get the

05:44:30.540 idea of it but to make it so sanctioned and to create a diet and then to kind of and and we're

05:44:36.300 projecting some of this so i know that they started this thing about their sacred stew

05:44:42.380 that they try to make and there's like some kind of nine ingredients of whatever

05:44:49.740 stuff that some viking people ate cool if you're doing a special ritual thing where that's important

05:44:56.620 to what you're doing fine but in your day-to-day diet there's no reason in our lore or just in any

05:45:05.260 kind of common sense that says our ancestors preferred to do it that way

05:45:13.820 they ate what they had that was available and longed for more delicious food the second europeans

05:45:21.020 got spices and things that were delicious the royalty the ones who could use them

05:45:27.740 used them they begin to trade in them because culinary innovation was so important to them

05:45:35.260 Every branch of our ancestors that had access to delicious things chose the delicious things over the stuff that you ate out of desperation so it didn't rot and you didn't starve over the winter. 0.82

05:45:50.880 to forsake that is just kind of, kind of LARPy and silly.

05:45:57.120 You know, it's one of those things, and I really mean this to me,

05:46:05.040 and some of it is hyperbole because I find this LARP stuff obnoxious.

05:46:09.260 But when I dial it all back, our ancestors,

05:46:13.980 one of the defining characteristics of our race is our ability to,

05:46:19.580 expand and to grow and to grow beyond our limitations, to do new things, to develop

05:46:28.600 better ways of doing stuff, to forsake all of that and try to live like ancient people

05:46:36.380 is such a disrespect to the people that worked and toiled their entire life

05:46:43.640 to give us something better, to give their children something better.

05:46:49.580 Yeah, don't pretend that you're ancient people unless you're doing some kind of reenactment stuff.

05:46:58.300 If you want to do reenactment things, that's fantastic.

05:47:01.440 That's really cool.

05:47:02.440 And I hope that that's a really fun thing to do.

05:47:06.000 And it could be a really educational thing to do.

05:47:08.700 As far as defining yourself, be a modern person.

05:47:12.780 Generations of your ancestors earned that for you.

05:47:16.040 Don't pass that up.

05:47:17.340 that's on the backs of what was built by all of our ancestors.

05:47:23.860 But it's getting pretty late.

05:47:26.340 Before we go, I got something to say, though.

05:47:29.080 Nick's got something to say.

05:47:30.180 What you got, Nick?

05:47:31.420 All right.

05:47:32.440 So, everybody, I'm going to Odenshoff next week.

05:47:36.680 I'm not going to be here.

05:47:38.560 You guys got to be nice to Matt.

05:47:41.040 Don't let him break anything.

05:47:44.740 And everything's going to be good.

05:47:46.380 but if you don't want if you want to miss victory never sleeps with me come out to

05:47:50.580 odenshoff they're not mutually exclusive i will also be at odenshoff and i will also be on victory

05:47:57.360 never sleeps next week yeah yeah but i'm gonna be in the air while you're filming and stuff we'll

05:48:04.060 see so nick's gonna give me the rundown i'm gonna do the best i can running things by myself from

05:48:10.060 where I'm at. Still deciding. I'm just going to have a guest on. We're going to have a good time,

05:48:18.320 talk about some stuff, get folks excited for midsummer. Swan will return the following week

05:48:23.960 and we have something fun or something substantive to talk to you all about. Everybody who is

05:48:30.980 celebrating Midsummer this weekend.

05:48:34.600 I wish you guys a spectacular Midsummer.

05:48:39.840 Folks that are celebrating the following weekend with me,

05:48:43.200 I look forward to seeing you guys at Odin's Hoff to do that.

05:48:47.020 And yeah, got a very exciting couple of weeks coming up here.

05:48:52.700 So it is nice to be on the other side

05:48:57.700 on the other side of the first 100 episodes um y'all are fantastic i appreciate all of your

05:49:06.660 amazing questions tonight um especially the intergalactic colonization one that was that

05:49:14.900 was awesome um that's been great sharing my evening with you guys until next time hail the

05:49:21.620 the Aesir, the Folk, the AFA,

05:49:25.460 remember, victory never sleeps.

05:49:30.980 Bye guys.

05:49:51.620 We'll be right back.

05:50:21.620 We'll be right back.

05:50:51.620 Thank you.

05:51:21.620 Thank you.

05:51:51.620 We'll be right back.

05:52:21.620 Thank you.

Asatru Folk Assembly - June 13, 2024

6⧸12⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 101 - Hárbarðsljóð, Part 2

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