Asatru Folk Assembly - 6⧸19⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 102

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00:03:00.000 hello welcome to another exciting edition of victory never sleeps

00:03:14.400 um so for the very first time in the history of victory never sleeps

00:03:20.720 uh producer nick is on an airplane he is flying out to

00:03:25.040 I forget exactly which airport he's going to, but he's flying out to California. I assume he's

00:03:31.460 going to Sacramento airport, but he's coming out for midsummer at Odenshof. And that's going on

00:03:37.840 this weekend, Friday, Saturday, and first part of Sunday. It is extremely late notice, but

00:03:46.200 there's still time. You know what? Most parts of the country, if you jump in a car now,

00:03:51.960 you can get there you can make it happen if you are interested if you're kind of in the area if

00:03:57.640 you're still on the fence and you want to show up there are folks that are there all weekend and

00:04:01.400 there's also folks that will show up just for saturday so if you're interested there is still

00:04:06.360 time if you want to be at midsummer at odin's off this is our longest standing uh what we call a

00:04:13.080 national event it's likely to be the biggest one of the year but that's never guaranteed we've had

00:04:18.600 some close rivals before we'd love to see out there it's a really special place and just meet

00:04:25.240 some really amazing people there this year matter of fact when i get off the broadcast tonight i'm

00:04:30.120 going to go pick up uh witten erickson and his lovely wife katie githya erickson and their kids

00:04:37.320 and they're going to ride up with me so they're going to be in attendance it's their first time

00:04:41.560 out at odenshoff in quite some time so that'll be awesome i believe this will be producer nick's

00:04:47.160 first time out there so it's gonna be a really neat event with some great folks love to have you

00:04:51.640 come out if you can um before i go any further as he always does ronald thank you so much mr ronald

00:05:01.800 blake has donated 35 to our current uh folk services push to help a loyal member build

00:05:10.280 himself back up so folk services if anybody doesn't know um we try to raise money internally

00:05:18.840 to be able to help out members that fall on hard times for a variety of reasons so we can be there

00:05:25.720 to support our folk um and through generous people like yourselves we're able to do that so thank

00:05:32.520 you all very much um please feel free to ask any questions you guys might want to we'll see where

00:05:43.640 the night takes us this is kind of an old school episode it's just uh me and ashley chopping stuff

00:05:50.280 up answering questions chatting and uh having a fun conversation this evening hopefully you will

00:05:56.840 all get to know a little bit more about her, what she does. And that's a neat opportunity.

00:06:07.720 Like I said, ask anything you want. We're live on a variety of platforms. We're on VK.

00:06:20.360 Sorry, I'm having a brain fart. I apologize, guys. On VK, we're on Twitter. We're obviously

00:06:25.880 here on YouTube, on Entropy, on Twitch, Odyssey, and Rumble. And you can ask questions all those

00:06:35.960 places if you find yourself there. We'd love to answer them on the air. And you can also listen

00:06:43.040 to this as a podcast coming up in a couple of days on Friday on a variety of podcast spots on

00:06:50.320 Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, iHeartRadio, and Amazon. So the links to all that stuff is in

00:06:59.140 the description. If you guys want to donate, we've got links on how to do that in the description

00:07:04.400 too. You can do the little buy us a coffee thing. You can also donate at roomstone.org.

00:07:13.520 We have a donate link there. Whether you want to donate or not, I encourage everybody to go

00:07:18.480 check out runestone.org. It is newly revamped, redesigned, and it's beautiful. Nick did a lot

00:07:27.740 of work on that with the help of Madison East. They spent a lot of time and effort, and it's

00:07:34.620 something we're all pretty excited about. One of the coolest features on there that I'd encourage

00:07:39.280 everybody to look at, if for no other reason, just to ooh and ah at it, is we now got a

00:07:44.420 comprehensive calendar of events all across the AFA. So that's got the virtual stuff we do is in

00:07:52.240 gray and everything else is in color on there as far as upcoming things. So check it out. Likely

00:07:57.900 there is something relatively close to you and yeah, you should come on out. If you're listening

00:08:04.080 to this right now and you are eligible for membership, I hope you're a member. And if you're

00:08:09.800 not, you should join up. We'd love to have you. We're doing great things. We'd love to do that

00:08:13.800 together. So give that some thought. Plugin stuff coming up. Midsummer's coming up quick. Still a

00:08:20.940 chance if you can go to it. If not, our next event is Sigurheim as a Sigurbloat at Sigurheim. That's

00:08:28.860 coming up, I believe the third weekend. There we go. Quick draw. Appreciate that. It's coming up

00:08:36.260 on the 19th through the 21st of July. That's at Sigurheim in Jackson County, Tennessee.

00:08:43.800 It's going to be spectacular. I'm excited to see you guys there. It's a, you've got to see it for yourself, but it's a really special place and we'd love to share that with you as we bloat for victory.

00:08:57.420 And then following that, got a really big star-studded Freyfaxi up at Baldershof in Murdoch, Minnesota. That's August the 16th through the 18th.

00:09:11.200 um it's gonna be a pretty big deal uh i'm gonna be out there my wife

00:09:14.720 and childs will be able to go out there for the very first time which would be really cool to

00:09:18.480 show that to them um got some other special guests gonna be in attendance uh law speaker turnage

00:09:27.600 should be up there um witten daniel young and his uh wife folk builder heather young should be there

00:09:38.880 i believe go the body mayo and go the trent east and uh trent's lovely wife madison who did so much

00:09:47.440 work on our website should also be there so we got a lot of folks coming there from far and wide

00:09:53.120 and you should be one of those folks so get with your folk builder we can get you there

00:09:58.480 um so ashley was on kind of sorta once before doesn't really count that was the 100th episode

00:10:07.200 where we cycled through lots of people and i think i underestimated that time cycle so

00:10:13.600 not everybody got a whole lot of chance to say stuff um for anybody who might have missed it

00:10:20.880 uh first welcome ashley glad to have you on the show

00:10:24.240 do you want to tell people a little bit about yourself and what you do for the astro focus

00:10:28.880 um i am actually i'm up in minnesota at baldur's hawk um i joined back in 2020

00:10:45.760 when we acquired baldur's hawk and um there's lots and lots to be done it's

00:10:50.960 it's much different than it is now um but it's a really awesome opportunity

00:10:55.600 um and period of time to come in as we had you know everything was up um for grabs so to speak

00:11:02.560 we there was a human needed for everything and so um really i got to kind of step in and then

00:11:09.600 do what i could and what you know i have passion for and just kind of run with it um

00:11:16.240 it was a really neat time to to step into bouldersaw um probably my my not favorite but

00:11:24.560 one of the things i'm most proud of is our food distribution that we do each month at the hop so

00:11:30.800 it's the third saturday of every month and we serve a community that their closest community

00:11:37.520 center or really resource is is about a 50 mile round trip drive and you never know what you're

00:11:44.320 gonna be able to to find when you go to those places so when you're already struggling and

00:11:50.320 then adding this 50 mile trip onto your weekend uh for a maybe you know it's um not always

00:11:56.000 necessarily helpful so us kind of stepping in and being this this uh resource and place for

00:12:03.440 for um for our community has been one of the biggest driving forces i think for

00:12:08.960 uh building our relationships with the people of of uh murdoch in the surrounding area we

00:12:16.240 We also have a back-to-school distribution and a toy drive that we do every year.

00:12:26.000 The back-to-school is great because we get backpack, we fill them up with school supplies,

00:12:29.960 and all the kids get to come and pick their favorite in the community.

00:12:34.000 And, you know, so it's neat.

00:12:35.960 We like to do good.

00:12:39.360 So I do that.

00:12:40.880 And then I also just kind of have a hand in a lot of the things going on at the Hoth,

00:12:45.560 whether that be events or um you know in folk building and i'm also a mentor in the

00:12:52.520 in the apprentice folk building program so i have a few under me that um i help do all the things

00:12:59.800 to see if they want to be in leadership and if it will work out for them

00:13:06.360 all right we're excited to have you on the program we've got a few questions lining up so far

00:13:16.120 cool uh from folk builder cody clausum ashley could you tell us a bit about your experience

00:13:24.120 organizing the food pantry and the school supplies drive yeah so so i was touching on that before um

00:13:33.880 you know at first the kind of getting the ball rolling was a lot of happenstance a lot of

00:13:39.480 of networking a lot of just talking to people and things falling into place and that's not ever a

00:13:46.100 perfect you know plan or formula but um it's just kind of how we had to go about things and so it

00:13:52.640 was the right place at the right time talking to you know somebody that just happened to be

00:13:58.080 dropping out 30 backpacks at the thrift store that i happened to be at that was like oh well

00:14:03.360 do you want them you know i mean just just these happenstance situations that um that i found

00:14:07.980 myself in that first year really kind of built up my my confidence in in um in things falling

00:14:15.620 into place as i should if you put in the work um you know and so since that year we've done a lot

00:14:21.880 of outreach before you know not the month of august but you know throughout the year and so

00:14:28.560 we gather donations and then i just try to find the best deals around beforehand and try to get

00:14:34.700 a good idea of what the community will need um and then the food distribution we're very fortunate

00:14:39.660 to have um both business and private donators that um that fill our freezers so we can fill

00:14:47.420 cupboards and then we have a ton of help throughout the month um from members or the

00:14:54.380 proud buds are a a cornerstone in that they um more often than not there's just a short break

00:15:01.340 when they had a baby but they go every other weekend they got um one of our biggest donations

00:15:07.260 um and they they do that because they want to and that's you know we wouldn't have um years as much

00:15:13.980 of a success as we do if it weren't for them you know so there's a lot of moving parts so i think

00:15:18.620 it's a um it's definitely a a team effort so can you for folks that may not know can you give guys

00:15:36.780 a little bit of a breakdown of of murdoch like how big of a town is it and yes i know the answer

00:15:44.860 these questions but could you tell folks how big of a town it is kind of how many folks come by on

00:15:51.740 when you do your food thing and you know i guess what happens with surrounding towns as far as

00:16:00.780 the food uh food pantry goes sure sure so um the metropolis of murdoch is about a uh

00:16:09.340 uh it's about 240 people is the town of murdoch um within the city limits and then there are

00:16:17.820 smaller communities around that totaling about uh about 500 total from the closest closest ones

00:16:24.780 um so very very rural very um country uh very small town um everybody knows everything and

00:16:31.900 everyone kind of vibe um also very proud people and so um we help it depends on the weather and

00:16:39.580 the season and you know what's all going on in in town and at the hop but between say 15 to 23

00:16:47.660 families um and mind you these are you know minnesota farming families so large families

00:16:54.380 and so um when we first started it was very very light and we really had to build up that

00:17:01.660 that that trust and consistency with the community but for the type of people that live in the

00:17:08.780 community to trust us and and to come consistently every every month really speaks a lot for for what

00:17:15.340 we do and then it brings in people from those surrounding areas which again are even further

00:17:20.060 from that near nearest resource in the biggest nearest town you know it'd be more than a 50 mile

00:17:26.060 drive um you know so we're kind of bridging that gap in the middle there um but yeah we're always

00:17:32.700 trying to get the word out and and we always tell everybody every third third weekend no

00:17:36.700 matter what we'll be here you know with something for you what is behind you behind me um it's the

00:17:45.820 gave it throwing chair no no it's something like that yeah no it's a little antler chair

00:17:52.060 you got that's awesome i wish i had an antler throne that's cool yes usually nathan is sitting

00:17:58.140 in this one but it's more comfortable than the other chair so that's exciting appreciate the

00:18:03.580 the antler throne flex on the program uh our next question uh when the mcplagans say the gods called

00:18:14.380 who they will a response could be yes they did exclusively europeans in the 1800s and 1900s

00:18:20.860 And only when comics and movies came out did the Marxists jump in on our tradition and make a mockery of it.

00:18:29.700 Thoughts?

00:18:31.300 Yeah, I have thoughts.

00:18:37.560 Yeah, you could say a lot of things.

00:18:39.900 I think that the point is...

00:18:42.860 All right.

00:18:44.400 So the snarky point I get and I agree with.

00:18:50.240 But looking at it a little bit deeper, first, as a caveat, sure, the gods can call whoever they want.

00:19:00.000 It would be completely impious of me to dictate to our gods who I think they can and can't call.

00:19:10.740 it's entirely different from being honest about who we have every reason to believe

00:19:19.240 that they call or don't call i think that one phenomenon that we notice and we noticed it with

00:19:25.820 our folk too for a time before you know i think we still see it but certainly before alsatru was

00:19:31.840 you know re-established in the modern age at least in a you know in its current form

00:19:38.760 And we had a we had a lot of white people going to, you know, going to powwows and trying to pretend they were, you know, they were Native Americans because they felt like something wasn't right and that something was calling them.

00:20:01.620 and we don't like something we like to attach a name to that thing

00:20:08.780 if you are in a vacuum i think a lot of our people feel this and you

00:20:15.460 experience spirituality if your only frame of reference is jehovah and jesus and the angels

00:20:25.040 and saints or whatever your tradition is that your family and your community do

00:20:30.100 that's often what things get attributed to if that's your lens and I think that if you want

00:20:38.500 to break free from that you want a something else it's easy to jump on what other something else is

00:20:46.600 you know in your in your view it's harder to actually go through and determine you know who

00:20:54.540 and what is reaching out to you.

00:20:57.200 I don't doubt that there's a lot of people

00:20:59.160 that feel a spiritual need

00:21:01.020 that might feel that we are the other option.

00:21:10.120 So it must be one of our gods calling out to them.

00:21:13.960 But I think that's a great disrespect 0.88

00:21:15.880 to the gods of different races of people. 1.00

00:21:20.820 um i think a lot of that is you know obviously there's the silly fad nonsense that goes with

00:21:31.680 that there's a certain number of people that are just trying to be rebellious and do something

00:21:35.780 different i think there's also people that are probably genuinely confused and when people come

00:21:41.300 to us that are genuinely confused we try to direct them to their own gods and their own you know

00:21:47.720 their own native traditions and that's been helpful we have had a lot of people thank us

00:21:54.600 for doing that um most of the people that make that argument oh gods call who they will

00:22:01.600 most of the time that's not a that doesn't really come from a very pious place or very serious

00:22:08.960 individual but if it does um it's always nice to redirect them to the gods of their folk and i

00:22:17.120 think that they end up being a lot more healthy, more satisfied with that, uh, with that kind of

00:22:22.400 answer. Um, what's, what's your reaction to that, Ashley? Well, so I was raised Catholic. I went to,

00:22:31.720 um, Catholic elementary school up until partway through third grade. Um, and during that time,

00:22:39.660 i was so confused all the time i was so disconnected i you know i i genuinely thought

00:22:47.580 there was something just wrong with me because i just didn't understand um what was going on

00:22:53.580 most of the time you know and and i didn't understand this um just this connection and i

00:22:59.660 felt just broken in that you know um and asking questions i in my situation were not uh met with

00:23:07.980 answers but but um discipline and and so there's always this this void of the spirituality that i

00:23:16.940 i tried very very very hard to to fulfill you know i tried to fake it tried to do all these things

00:23:22.700 um and it just never ever felt right or that it fit or that it made sense or that i could trust it

00:23:30.140 um you know and that's from being a young child to a young adult um and and in that you know um

00:23:39.500 that feeling of of of wanting a spiritual connection i then thought that i was just

00:23:46.940 you know well then i just don't believe in anything at all and then when i was introduced

00:23:51.100 to asatru um it was the first time that it it clicked and it was interesting and it built a

00:23:58.540 passion for and it was it was nothing that that there was any other benefit for me other than

00:24:05.980 than learning about it and that genuine connection i think happens for our people with our

00:24:15.180 gods you know i tried so hard in a situation that i felt i had to when i went through the motions

00:24:20.060 because that's what my family wanted me to do that's with my community you know it's just what

00:24:23.900 what we did but there was there was a disconnect there you know and so that genuine genuine feeling

00:24:29.660 that you are truly home is is something that i think is is unique and so the god's call

00:24:35.180 who they will for sure but they will call us so you know i'll say that it comes um when i've heard

00:24:41.580 that that comes from a variety of circles usually it's not uh usually it's not directly from other

00:24:53.900 ethnic groups of people usually it is wiccans and you know

00:25:05.100 the purple-haired you know 1.00

00:25:10.140 i'm trying to be kind but the oddball set of people that just don't fit in and are very confused

00:25:16.300 those people in my experience when they do become part of also true or when they do something that

00:25:21.980 they think is also true they very quickly move on to three or four different things

00:25:29.100 until like ashley said they do find something that feels like home and that's a little bit different

00:25:38.140 gozi bode over there in the comments says you know a quicker you know more direct answer is

00:25:43.340 you know it's usually the ancestors that call us home or redirect us to the appropriate course of

00:25:49.580 action and i do think more often than not that's the case i think beyond the veil there's a lot

00:25:56.140 of spiritual forces kind of tugging at you or affecting your life in ways that you may not know

00:26:03.340 and important influence if you open your mind to look for it and pay attention for it is your

00:26:13.020 ancestors and very often they are the ones trying to call you back home and i you know

00:26:26.140 so i think a lot of it's about lens and what you're aware of but we get a lot of confused people

00:26:30.780 the other thing is there's a lot of people that

00:26:35.020 it is much easier to recognize a problem than to know what the cure is for the problem

00:26:43.020 So I think there's a first stage where people, ah, you know, what I've been doing isn't the right way to go. Man, these guys have their stuff together. Maybe I should do what they're doing. I think that's a legitimate initial thought. I think the follow up thought is, okay, now that I'm not doing the thing I shouldn't be doing, is this in fact what I should be doing?

00:27:05.500 and that's a whole different set but you know there there's something to the to the thought

00:27:11.900 process and if people come to us because they see us you know having our life squared away i think

00:27:18.140 that's complimentary and i think it's nice if we can redirect those folks into a place that's

00:27:24.860 healthy and appropriate for them to be when i think there is an appropriate separation between

00:27:29.900 learning you know and being you know there's there's a whole reality that exists of learning

00:27:37.020 of different cultures and religions you know for for everybody um without being in it so if there's

00:27:43.260 somebody who has an interest in in in the bare bones of things and and what it's about that

00:27:48.780 doesn't necessarily mean that it's uh it's for that you know just because there's an interesting

00:27:54.540 story behind it absolutely uh daniel asked uh whitney daniel young wants to know hello ashley

00:28:03.580 what motivated you to become a folk builder and what motivates you now

00:28:09.580 um well um i definitely wasn't super about the idea when i was first brought to my attention

00:28:17.980 just because i wasn't sure i could do it um and so i would i kind of push off with you know

00:28:25.420 well no i don't want to do that um and then when um witten brandy facett and um goethe erlinson

00:28:37.420 um bullied me into it i'm just kidding um but seeing the progress that they were making

00:28:44.860 you know right right in front of me in a very short period of time and all the the um the

00:28:50.460 successes we were having there and all the the problems we were coming into with you know just

00:28:55.740 getting an electrician and like all the little things that you need to do when you buy a property

00:29:01.020 um i wanted i wanted to help i wanted to uh do that and um those those lilacs out at balder's

00:29:08.620 softs are they're kind of my little plant babies because when we uh when we we got them and we

00:29:14.940 we planted them as kind of like a fence line on the property there um they needed to be watered

00:29:22.140 twice a day in the dead of summer and everyone was at midsummer so i lived rather close and so

00:29:29.100 i went out there uh twice it twice a day and and um and i watered that we watered them and

00:29:35.420 we didn't have a spigot yet so we had i had like five gallon bucket and went downstairs and fill

00:29:40.540 it up and bring it back out and i was so proud the whole time doing that you know there's nobody

00:29:46.540 there like seeing me doing it but it was just i felt so much pride in in making sure that these

00:29:52.060 little little plants um were gonna make it on this property that i was a you know a part of

00:29:58.620 And, you know, just really building the Baldur's Hoffman itself is what got me started.

00:30:05.440 And what keeps me going now is, you know, just the exponential growth that's happened in our area.

00:30:15.160 You know, people, our folk have been called home, you know, subconsciously.

00:30:21.660 they've been called home in a way that they are so drawn to coming out to this little tiny town of

00:30:28.300 you know not really near anything to be with the folk and to be at the hof well that is such a

00:30:33.500 magical um special thing that i i couldn't not want to do it um so folk builder jason gallagher

00:30:47.340 wants to know ashley can you talk about the virtue recovery meetings yes um so the recovery meetings

00:30:54.860 um we run those via zoom every thursday evening um it's 7 p.m central times it is a um it's an

00:31:05.900 alternative to a traditional 12-step meeting 12-step meetings are wonderful for many people

00:31:14.140 they really got me through um some very hard times and to a secure space of recovery

00:31:21.980 they are technically non-denominational but there are some specifics in there that do not fall in

00:31:26.460 line with our beliefs and so a lot of our people use use a 12-step program and then they feel like

00:31:33.260 they don't really fit in a lot of them have also evolved to you know you end a meeting with saying

00:31:39.020 the lord's prayer and and things that we wouldn't be comfortable with and it really keeps that you

00:31:45.020 at bay from the people at the meetings um and so the virtue recovery meeting is a a nine-step

00:31:52.540 meeting which is based around the virtues um and my kinder brother uh josh emington and i started

00:32:01.340 that um way back in 2020. it's only on thursdays because that's the only night that the uh

00:32:09.020 the library had an open slot that we could, we could rent and go to.

00:32:14.300 But our idea of behind this and using these nine steps,

00:32:20.120 which I'll clarify, we did not write these nine steps.

00:32:22.920 This was an odinous group in a Texas prison that put this together,

00:32:26.240 the steps themselves, the,

00:32:27.680 how we formatted the meeting from those is what's unique to us. So we,

00:32:33.240 we see addiction and whatever that may be a unhealthy choice or

00:32:38.820 relationship or you know drugs alcohol gambling whatever it is that you're using to make yourself

00:32:45.220 feel better in the moment but then it's detrimental to your life instead of focusing on the thing

00:32:51.540 and what happens when you know using that that um variable to make yourself feel better focusing on

00:33:00.020 the other side of it so in theory we have these nine cups and when they're full then we're we're

00:33:07.700 content we're happy we are we are our best selves and doing everything that we need to do

00:33:12.980 and when one of those is lacking instead of filling it up with something on on the outside

00:33:19.060 to to make ourselves seem whole finding out why it is that those aren't full in the first place

00:33:24.340 and what we can do with within ourselves with the support of others but really on your own

00:33:29.460 to fill your cup up um organically to get ourselves back to that healthy state which

00:33:35.060 which is just kind of like an opposite, not opposite,

00:33:37.680 but just a different way of looking at it

00:33:39.640 than a traditional treatment setting.

00:33:42.560 You know, taking the power away from the thing

00:33:45.120 that we're using and more putting it on ourselves

00:33:47.520 and what we need to do about us.

00:33:55.480 Folk builder Heather Young would like to know,

00:33:57.400 Ashley, how do you get so much work done for the AFA

00:34:01.260 and still make such good grades at school?

00:34:03.980 Please share your secrets.

00:34:06.640 Quick trip, don't test.

00:34:07.860 No, I'm just kidding.

00:34:09.420 It's funny to some people.

00:34:11.840 No, I have an amazing support system.

00:34:15.480 You know, there's hard days and hard tests

00:34:19.740 and hard things that come up.

00:34:22.760 But at the end of the day,

00:34:23.860 I have amazing support around me

00:34:26.500 from all the way up to extended family and friends

00:34:29.860 and people I've known for years

00:34:31.560 that have nothing to do with AFA,

00:34:33.060 support everything that i do um into my my leadership in my my district brandy is my

00:34:42.100 my peaceful rock that helps um that helps keep me grounded and then i have my my beyonce who is

00:34:50.260 josey erlinson and he's a huge support and cheerleader and everything and also somebody that

00:34:56.420 i am able to be

00:35:00.260 led by and then um one of my biggest is my my daughter so i have a 15 year old

00:35:06.580 who is great a lot of people have met her

00:35:08.820 um she's she she really is a driving force and a lot of things i do

00:35:15.140 which is hilarious

00:35:18.660 and red

00:35:26.420 Sarah wants to know, folk builder Sarah Alt would like to know, Ashley, could you talk

00:35:34.540 about some of your great experiences with the community in Murdoch and around the Hoth?

00:35:41.280 Yeah, so I guess.

00:35:44.600 So pin in that for a second, because I want to set this up for people who may not be aware.

00:35:50.420 the media in minneapolis got wind of our our hoff going in in murdoch and

00:36:05.300 everybody within a you know a few hundred mile radius decided they needed to

00:36:11.960 i don't know perch on the shoulders of it to get attentions and get stuff so there's a lot

00:36:20.700 of sensationalism and we had this uh one instance of that was the guardian doing a story on us which

00:36:30.120 thank you guardian that brought us a lot of members um but it was really dishonest it was

00:36:37.600 really dishonestly conducted all around and one of the dishonesties in it was there was some claim

00:36:45.840 that the hispanic community was terrified of us and like they had to put together their own little

00:36:52.320 watching out for each other's kids because i don't know we were gonna like make a stew out 0.97

00:36:59.640 them or something crazy and nonsense so i asked i said you know which you know which hispanics are 0.77

00:37:08.840 these that are scared of us well the hispanic community yeah cool like like who well the 0.99

00:37:16.760 the hispanic people yeah i i i'm aware we we know quite a bit of them who who's scared of us

00:37:24.680 and seems likely it was something that she just made up because she seemed very unfamiliar but uh

00:37:32.120 yeah how is how has your interactions been with the town and in specifics

00:37:36.680 you know have you encountered the the terror from the hispanics that the news talks about yeah so 1.00

00:37:43.880 So there has been such great interaction because of what we had to go through to make those 0.88

00:37:55.700 connections because of all the propaganda and ridiculousness.

00:37:59.800 The only people that had a negative thing to say at first was the outsiders, the people

00:38:06.060 that were not in Murdoch at all or from anywhere near it.

00:38:11.160 it was 2020 they were at home George Floyd just happened like it was just it was all just this

00:38:15.920 perfect storm um to get people stirred up um there so people were were scared from from media and

00:38:23.960 and whatnot um but at the end of the day there's been so much just honestly just beautiful

00:38:33.920 conversation that's happened with every most every person in the town which again is not

00:38:38.120 it's you know it's not tens of thousands of people it's a very small community um and so

00:38:44.240 we'll we'll have often people that'll come through the um food shelf line that don't want anything

00:38:50.960 um that just want to say hi and say they're sorry and say thank you you know we're sorry how the

00:38:56.060 everything happened and it was just kind of crazy and people are saying crazy things and just

00:39:00.660 we see what you're doing and thank you so much and um you know and it's just it's just great

00:39:06.280 it's just good you know there's there's not been one altercation or incident or anything

00:39:11.720 bad with the community at all um and and no i have not encountered one um hispanic family that

00:39:19.000 was scared of us um you know i think um you might remember the first false fall fest at um at

00:39:26.360 falder's hop and the first people to come over to get their backpacks was one of the larger families

00:39:32.120 in the community, and there's these two, the two younger girls are twins, and they, one loves

00:39:40.040 kitties, one loves unicorns, and I had a kitty backpack and a unicorn backpack, and they were

00:39:43.900 so excited and jazzed, and, you know, and mom was happy, and everybody went away smiling, you know,

00:39:49.100 so that's, that's the interactions that I have.

00:39:51.620 just gonna say i you know looking up the demographics of murdoch 7.2 hispanic

00:40:08.820 i think more than 14 hispanic persons come to the food pantry for counting the family which

00:40:21.940 demographics count and is our neighbor that comes over and has beers with folks i think that you

00:40:28.420 know most most of those numerically are accounted for being our friends so it's it's interesting to

00:40:33.940 know um yeah there that dried up really quick um we had

00:40:50.260 what was it last year somebody left us a nice little note on saint patrick's day saying what

00:40:56.420 a blessing that we were to have in the community there it's common occurrence you know so it's it's

00:41:03.940 People drive by and wave every time I've been there for our, our, you know, our plans, you know, or everything, you know, so it's, um, yeah, there isn't, there hasn't been one, um, that I've felt and I there for most things, um, any feeling of, of anger or tension or conflict with anybody, you know, it's a great.

00:41:26.940 so yeah don't believe the hype folks um yeah we're not as exciting as people thought

00:41:37.020 from gothi trent east ashley when are you and gothi erlinson coming to visit and yours off

00:41:44.460 yeah good question um soon we wanted to come down for charming this year and then we decided to

00:41:52.220 then we you know we're buying a house and um and getting married this year so we couldn't swing

00:41:58.540 the travel but but soon we will we will come down for sure because now we got two on us so we have

00:42:05.340 to we have to uh so questions about your necklace what is it made out of it is made out of um elk

00:42:20.220 antler i'm pretty now i just i can guess myself this was a gift from nathan um go the erlinson

00:42:28.700 when we were just friends um so this was a gift from him and he brought it back after um

00:42:37.340 see it would have been lc fest 2021 and that's kind of on mother's day i got this so that's um

00:42:44.940 he spent a very long time trying to find he's anybody knows him he's pretty particular and

00:42:50.220 so he spent a very long time trying to find the right right one so this is um hasn't really come

00:42:56.380 off since so reach out to uh go the erlinson if you are in need of enchanting gifts for

00:43:07.420 just friends people if you're looking to improve that status um

00:43:16.780 question from the wolf throne would you ever do a reading of the culture of the teutons

00:43:22.460 on victory never sleeps it could end up being one of the longest running multi-part episodes

00:43:29.580 um yeah i wouldn't be opposed to that at all like i'm i'm a fan um

00:43:37.420 it's not perfect i don't agree with every conclusion that uh professor groenbeck

00:43:46.220 makes in there but it is a very important work and i'd be

00:43:52.180 yeah i think that's a really good idea and something we'll absolutely consider

00:43:56.940 today. I'm just scanning for the questions over here. Bear with me, if you will.

00:44:17.660 So, Ashley, you can take this first. What do you think of the race-changing trend? I guess 0.96

00:44:23.920 changing your gender just wasn't enough. For those that may not be familiar, apparently 0.99

00:44:31.120 transracial is a thing in some very mentally ill sectors of our community.

00:44:41.200 So, and I'm not trying to like be super comical, but the first thing that comes to mind is there's 0.96

00:44:48.640 a south park about that where um one of them kyle i think wants to be a basketball player and be 0.71

00:44:55.920 better and so then he gets this transracial and then his dad becomes a dolphin like that's it's

00:44:59.920 the whole premise of the show and it's a hilarious cartoon you know um i think there's like there's 0.76

00:45:06.720 this push for for extremism to be as extreme and you know have as many jaws on the floor as you

00:45:15.840 possibly can and also this this idea of being unsure of who you are growing up and figuring

00:45:25.600 your stuff out that that is not a part of growing up and that must mean something wrong with you and

00:45:30.880 you're something else um and as far as like the gender thing goes you know that's um irreversible

00:45:37.440 choices are made at very young ages and that's it's terrifying for for young adults to um and

00:45:45.840 and and children to be given those lifelong consequences from from those as far as the 0.50

00:45:52.080 transracial thing goes i mean i i'm offended about that because what do you do what do you

00:45:58.480 do to become something else that seems pretty stereotypical for a uh a course of of medical care

00:46:05.440 there um so some of these things hit on a couple of different levels

00:46:19.200 yes it is comically absurd it just is it's it's so absurd and out there it's hard to even discuss

00:46:29.440 without you know chuckling a little bit when you step away from it for a minute though it's

00:46:39.040 deeply tragic that the absurd is now not only commonplace but um

00:46:47.760 large folks are large chunks of our society are bullied into being forced to

00:46:53.840 a being forced to nod and pretend to go along with it um

00:47:01.360 i think we've all in a very different context seen or heard stories about you know people

00:47:11.780 living in really extreme you know like communist dictatorships things like north korea to where

00:47:18.480 if you don't actively stand up and cheer for crazy stuff that their supreme leader does

00:47:27.580 really bad social consequences happen to you if not really bad physical consequences

00:47:34.220 it's a real similar spot when so many people realize that these things are

00:47:42.820 mental illness run amok but you're not really allowed to say that in a lot of places or you

00:47:51.580 fear for your job or your ability to participate in sustainability and that's really sad

00:47:57.200 one of the things that i think harkens back a little bit to what ashley was talking about

00:48:08.480 about the virtue recovery is when something internal is broken, it's, it's not fixed by

00:48:21.980 external stuff. It has to be, what's broken has to get fixed internally or else you can't,

00:48:28.680 you know, counteract that with forcing people to pretend that your mental illness isn't an

00:48:36.260 illness, but some kind of strength. Because that's unfulfilling. It doesn't address the

00:48:42.100 real problem. If you don't have dignity within yourself, and you want to pretend that you

00:48:49.660 are something that you're not, it's really sad. And I think we should all be sad about

00:48:55.100 that. There was a time not too long ago to where, you know, anyone in society would have

00:49:02.500 promoted the idea of being accepting who you were being proud of who you were and building self-worth

00:49:11.460 in that um there was a time um

00:49:21.860 There was a time earlier when blacks in America would try to, if they were, you know, if they were mixed race, would try to pass as whites or would try to do things to make themselves more like white people to elevate themselves or be more acceptable.

00:49:51.860 and we all were really sad that that was a thing and that that's something that folks felt they

00:50:00.060 needed to do was to try to make themselves not who they were because that was devalued. And it's

00:50:06.740 really unfortunate when we see that going a different direction that we have a really

00:50:11.040 different and less healthy reaction to it. Whatever the case may be, having pride in

00:50:20.360 yourself for who you are and building strength around that, that's real. And it's not an issue

00:50:26.940 of pretend or it's not dependent upon those around you pretending, you know, going along with a

00:50:33.840 delusion that you have. It's something solid that you can rest your, that you can take peace in and

00:50:40.360 take comfort in. And it's really sad that folks feel the need to pretend that there's something

00:50:48.660 different than who they are. And sometimes that's, our folks suffer from soul sickness.

00:51:00.220 We talk about it a lot. The same group of people who would want people to be proud of

00:51:07.400 themselves for odd things also support people trying to pretend they're other than themselves

00:51:19.520 too. It's strange when the absurdity goes so far beyond the bounds that it starts coming

00:51:25.380 back in on itself. I think we see a lot of that and that's part of the decay we see in

00:51:32.440 wolf age and it's something that we're working really hard to uh help our people not have to

00:51:38.760 not have to suffer with so yeah i'm sad that's a situation people find themselves in

00:51:44.520 i think there's this whole culture behind like there being a special circumstance you know

00:51:50.840 there's a generation brought up mine on like participation trophies and all those things you

00:51:55.560 know everybody's special right and now there's kind of seemingly this next kind of wave of

00:52:01.720 everybody's specialist so how are you going to be how are you going to be you got to be specialer

00:52:08.120 yeah especially and have a special circumstance too you know there's a reason why life is hard

00:52:12.520 for you you know and that's being fed so much and masculinity that's being taken away and um

00:52:19.080 my last point on that is is just something interesting my son's speech pathologist had

00:52:22.920 been talking with me the other day about um when they do their evaluations one of the main

00:52:29.160 not one of the main but one of the big portions of it is identifying identifiers and so um and

00:52:35.320 it's pronouns so if if the child can identify he or she him and her um they've found out through

00:52:43.160 years and years of research that there's this one specific um speech delay which my son does not

00:52:49.240 have so i don't remember the name of it but um that is the trouble identifying and and storing

00:52:55.320 that information of what he and she is not that they don't know it but it's just the words get

00:53:00.520 lost in the middle and when they evaluate and they find that gap they know that that's the

00:53:06.120 specific therapy they needed and now they know that it can be fixed super quick um but now they

00:53:12.120 have this new wave of kids coming in who aren't allowed to say he and she and so it's taken this

00:53:16.760 whole you know years and years of research going in and developing this treatment for

00:53:21.800 or a specific speech impediment and speech delay,

00:53:26.000 just gone now because of, you know,

00:53:27.960 they have woke parents that won't teach them pronouns.

00:53:30.960 And so they can't use it as an evaluator anymore,

00:53:33.220 which is just an interesting, you know,

00:53:35.160 a spinoff of everything.

00:53:36.520 Yeah, no, it's absolutely abusive towards our kids.

00:53:40.220 And that's one of the saddest things about it.

00:53:45.260 Jay Barmore.

00:53:47.260 I'll tell you, go through Matt.

00:53:48.660 Cheers.

00:53:50.720 Cheers.

00:53:51.800 What are you enjoying tonight for a beverage? I'm enjoying Guinness. I don't know why I'm having such a brain fart on the question. Anyway, you're drinking Guinness. Good. Guinness is fantastic. What I'm drinking is disgusting, but it's what I got, so I'm getting rid of it.

00:54:10.840 it's some gas station steel reserve spiked cherry slushy i like fruity things i like

00:54:20.520 i like a lot of stuff but no it's kind of gross but uh

00:54:25.960 it's eight percent so the more i drink the less gross it gets i suppose

00:54:29.640 you see where we're at oh i should note and i've neglected to do so we have got

00:54:41.960 siggerheim merch on sale now there you go get your siggerheim stuff

00:54:50.600 it's exciting it's fantastic we'd love to see you guys wearing that when you come out to

00:54:55.160 sigger bloat at siggerheim here in july also if you like the merch and you want to get more it's

00:55:01.560 the last opportunity to get the what would jason gallagher do products and the elsewhere your gothic

00:55:07.880 disapproval products so get them while supplies last and uh yeah we appreciate you guys support

00:55:15.480 Ashley, can you tell us about the Feast of the Einherjar? How many years have you hosted

00:55:25.080 it and where will it be located this year? Yes, so the Feast of the Einherjar, this would

00:55:33.480 be the fourth running year that, I'd say maybe the first year I was less, the least involved,

00:55:40.680 But Nathan started hosting it four years ago, so it would have been 2020 or 2021.

00:55:51.680 I'm sorry.

00:55:53.680 So 2021 would have been the first year.

00:55:56.680 It was great.

00:55:57.680 It was quite smaller.

00:56:00.680 We've moved it around each event, and so this year, and so they've been in different places.

00:56:08.680 places. This year it will be in South Dakota. Information on that to come, but it's a, it's

00:56:16.120 always a magical, magical event. We've had so many people that have been able to, to

00:56:22.900 attend it that are veterans and, and not, but it's a really beautiful time that I've

00:56:30.640 been able to be a part of, to see, to see our folk come together and have such meaningful

00:56:37.580 conversation and frith and bloat and really get a good sit down period to just

00:56:44.820 conversate because we have, usually it's a longer event. Feast of the NURR is held

00:56:52.160 over Veterans Day weekend, depending on where it falls. It's usually right on

00:56:58.140 Veterans Day, but it is something that a lot of our vets identify with and

00:57:07.100 and um really go out of their way to come to all the last three years we've been fortunate

00:57:16.980 enough uh for the Oshiri Goethe to be there um uh at least one Witten is always there

00:57:24.520 and then uh Steve and Sheila Macmillan have also been able to make it um well Steve was

00:57:29.520 just there the first year and then Sheila the last two which is just makes for just

00:57:33.900 such a neat experience and we really had a really good luck

00:57:38.900 with weather and just happenings surrounding it.

00:57:42.140 So it's a lot of work goes into it

00:57:44.800 and it's definitely worth it. 0.99

00:57:50.460 Next question, can female warriors go to Valhalla?

00:57:54.220 I think that we talked about this a lot before,

00:57:58.580 People get way too hung up with being hyper-specific about lore elements because, again, they're meant to teach bigger truths in stories that are digestible to us in ways that we understand.

00:58:28.580 First, the gods can invite whoever they would like to invite into their halls.

00:58:36.160 They can cause ascension for any of our folk that they want to pull up to that next level and have commune with the gods.

00:58:46.380 Valhalla is one example of that, and we see it talked about most frequently.

00:58:51.760 i think in large part the same reason that we see so many

00:58:59.120 typically male-oriented and battle-oriented things talked about in the lore that's exciting

00:59:10.500 and that's the stuff that heroic sagas are told about there's much less

00:59:17.100 excitement and appeal when you talk about the

00:59:25.980 the calmer things of everyday life of home of raising children of caring for

00:59:33.680 halls and estates it's not that we don't find women in roles that are

00:59:39.900 you know celebrated within the sagas you do but so very often the lore is

00:59:50.200 about these peaks of excitement that are told in a warrior society to a warrior elite so i don't

00:59:59.480 think you see you see some of those other things would include more women but our gods absolutely 0.52

01:00:07.260 call up women for for places of ascension now we don't see examples in the lore of women being

01:00:17.860 called to Valhalla but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen or it can't happen it doesn't mean any of

01:00:22.660 us are in a position that we can dictate who the all-father can call into his hall but our other

01:00:30.500 gods host ascended mortals into their halls as well and i don't see why that's not the case but 1.00

01:00:38.740 what i do think is i think female warriors that that is their defining characteristic is their 0.96

01:00:48.180 you know prowess in warfare it's very very very few and far between in the course of 1.00

01:00:54.500 you know the entirety of the history of our folk um but i think there's a lot of females

01:01:01.940 that have ascended to places of honor with our gods and uh yeah so the question of could that 0.88

01:01:11.380 happen sure odin can call whoever he'd like and if there's happens to be a female warrior that that

01:01:17.940 as their defining characteristic and they are so glorious in their warfare that that they're worthy

01:01:25.460 of a spot with the warriors in valhalla then sure i think that's a really rare and odd example and i

01:01:33.540 think it's i don't know unless there's a specific woman you have in mind i think it does our ladies

01:01:39.140 a little more dignity to celebrate them in a role that's you know traditionally theirs that they're 0.98

01:01:47.060 inclined for and that uh so many of them have excelled at in the history of our people

01:02:01.300 how will you celebrate midsummer

01:02:05.220 ashley how will you celebrate midsummer well um for our as far as our district goes our event was

01:02:12.180 last weekend which was amazing it was a three-day um event which is something we call a pop major

01:02:20.180 event a lot of people spent a lot of hours driving to come up we had some surprise drop-in um uh

01:02:30.100 people come that i had no idea were coming and it was a culmination of of food and frith and

01:02:37.540 and some really neat spiritual exercises

01:02:42.880 and learning that happened too.

01:02:46.100 Fortunately, it was when we were met with rain,

01:02:48.720 we're in a crazy storm season up here in the Midwest.

01:02:52.020 It's kind of a anomaly of the century of this season.

01:02:56.980 So it seems to be raining every single day,

01:02:59.060 but as far as midsummer being considered

01:03:04.060 being considered as the um as a solstice then um then we have a tiny practices that we do at home

01:03:13.500 with um just at our altar and private things but nothing nothing exuberant

01:03:22.540 so uh i noticed that the wolf throne took a took a quote and i'm gonna blame it on the fruity things

01:03:29.820 I like fruity things. Matt Flavel, 2024. That happened. You guys were here for that.

01:03:38.720 Could easily be taken out of context. I would encourage you guys not to,

01:03:43.620 but perhaps that is another t-shirt idea down the road.

01:03:51.020 It's already up on the site.

01:03:53.180 There we go. Let me find where we're at here on our question.

01:03:59.620 just one other thing for uh midsummer that we did um i like to for the kids um crafts i like

01:04:05.940 to incorporate what's going on and um yeah at the event specifically and so there we have little

01:04:14.020 um father's day things that they made with a hand-printed son a little poem um that included

01:04:20.820 balder until we low and father's day into it and um some an opportunity to put some intent into a

01:04:26.820 gift for for father's day because on on sunday of our event was if it fell on father's days

01:04:36.900 um so i am going to celebrate midsummer at odin's off it's

01:04:47.860 so talking a little bit about it it is the longest standing afa national event

01:04:54.180 um in the early days the astro folk assembly was their members kind of spread out but it was

01:05:06.540 disproportionately weighted in and around northern california and so in started out as midsummer in

01:05:17.840 sierras and truth be told it's kind of a switcheroo originally what they were doing was winter nights

01:05:24.960 in sierras and i don't recall what the impetus was to change the national event from winter

01:05:32.000 nights to midsummer uh might have been you know kids being off of school i'm not sure because

01:05:37.440 that was right before my time but um yeah it was held

01:05:47.840 I'm trying to think of fairly close to where it's being held now, a little bit further up in the

01:05:52.320 mountains in a place called Alta, California. And those midsummers kind of laid the foundation for

01:05:59.380 a lot of, a lot of things that we do now and got a lot of, served as the start for a lot of us.

01:06:09.240 That was midsummer in 2010. And I think we have a slideshow of that on the videos. If you go back

01:06:16.640 look at our videos section on youtube midsummer 2010 was you know i may just take that and share

01:06:24.240 that now that i'm thinking about it that was my first afa event that i went to and i i'd been

01:06:32.480 folk building i think for about a year up in alaska and uh midsummer 09 i think sheila did a slideshow

01:06:43.680 and i wasn't there for it and i was like you know i thought about going and i decided not to at the

01:06:48.900 last minute and she did that slideshow and i regretted it like you know what i'm going next

01:06:53.020 year no matter what i'm going to make it happen it's gonna be awesome and i went and it changed

01:06:59.200 my life it's the reason that i'm sitting here right now talking to you guys um

01:07:04.340 it literally changed my life it was that cool it was the first time i was you know around

01:07:13.760 you know a room full of or a you know area full of people who shared our faith um

01:07:23.680 you know you looked around and everybody had a hammer on and everybody was also true and i got

01:07:28.400 to meet our founder steve mcnallen for the very first time and it was just such a magical weekend

01:07:35.600 for me that i started doing everything i can to go every major afa event i could go to

01:07:41.520 to be at everything that just make this my life from then on and it's really what put me on the

01:07:46.320 road to where i'm at and i think it's done that for a lot of folks as an event um that community

01:07:53.360 kind of grew and thrived over the years and was the uh the core of what we built odenshoff around

01:08:02.640 We got Odenshoff in the fall of 2015, so the first midsummer we had at Odenshoff was in 2016.

01:08:14.100 It's just such a special event. It's going to be at a very special place, and I believe Whitten Clifford Erickson is going to be doing the midsummer bloke for us this year.

01:08:24.400 So I'm very excited to celebrate that with my folk here in just a couple of days this upcoming Saturday.

01:08:31.440 That's what I'm doing.

01:08:32.580 I'm very excited about it.

01:08:34.300 I'm going to do a bloat to Odin Friday night.

01:08:38.600 And then we're doing the midsummer bloat.

01:08:45.000 Early afternoon, I want to say, of Saturday.

01:08:48.300 And we're going to spend the weekend with who looks like well over 100 of our folk from all around the country.

01:08:59.220 It's going to be a pretty cool event.

01:09:00.420 i'm really looking forward to i hope to see a lot of you guys there if not i hope you have

01:09:04.740 a great midsummer wherever you do find yourself um evil zombie toe apologies if it's been brought

01:09:14.180 up before but outside of the woke garbage what is your opinion on children of ash and elm 0.94

01:09:21.220 I have no idea what that is. Ashley, are you aware? 0.56

01:09:29.660 No. I mean, unless it's some correlation, you know, between Adam and Eve and whatnot.

01:09:38.200 It is, but I don't know if it's a movie or a show or a book or a song or a...

01:09:43.740 I haven't seen it referenced anything, no.

01:09:46.160 interpretive dance i apologize evil zombie toe neither actually nor myself

01:09:52.960 are here to those particular streets

01:10:09.120 matt would you ever run for president

01:10:10.800 i mean i i don't i don't think that's particularly realistic um

01:10:25.120 i guess i'm not opposed to the concept in a alternate universe where that was a thing

01:10:34.320 i think now it's you know it's exclusively a two-party system and anything really outside

01:10:40.000 of that is kind of there's not much point to it it's very expensive and i wouldn't want to be

01:10:45.920 distracted from doing this and running the ass true folk assembly um the other thing that's just

01:10:57.360 really unfortunate with the way it's done and i'm not sure how it's going to shape up in the future

01:11:01.920 is the the media is so i don't know just vicious in the trying to find every possible

01:11:22.480 thing you've ever done wrong in your life and exploit it situation that it's really hard to

01:11:27.360 ever get anybody worthwhile to do that who's lived a life it's always these you know pretty milk toast

01:11:34.720 kind of folks that don't have anything going you know one way or another that seem to be

01:11:41.360 attractive to make it through the system lately uh so i don't i don't think that's a realistic

01:11:48.560 option um but uh yeah i don't not not that it's a possibility of ever happening but i don't want

01:11:57.120 to say no just out of principle but i think that's highly unrealistic but uh i appreciate

01:12:02.640 the the support of my would-be candidacy can you both talk about the importance of moots

01:12:11.760 and what has been your favorite moot so far um i can go first um so moots are important

01:12:23.760 for those who don't know a moot is a get together it's it can be um lunch it can be a a

01:12:33.280 something going on in the community a fair as you know a talk of a release something

01:12:39.440 or it can be hosting people at your house and it really brings instead of just and i say just

01:12:47.520 slightly but instead of the monthly events that we hold at the half which are in the same place

01:12:53.200 every month it's kind of same times instead of that being the only

01:12:58.640 you know scheduled interaction that we have we have all these different things going on

01:13:04.320 that are smaller that are more catered to um to likes and needs and you know children based or

01:13:11.120 not you know just lots of lots of different things going on to really make your opposite

01:13:18.000 true life part of your everyday life you know it's not just this one thing that you do it's

01:13:23.920 it's your friends it's it's going out in the community it's going to that show that you wanted

01:13:27.760 to go to you know it really is incorporating everything and i think to date my favorite move

01:13:34.240 um probably have to be the um one that folk builder jesse shaper through in aberdeen

01:13:41.120 south dakota is that i'm gonna butcher the name it's like story land story time land or something

01:13:47.200 like that we um rented one of the houses there and there's this huge kid-based park that's just

01:13:54.080 awesome and it was so much fun it was so great um between the what five parents there total i think

01:14:01.520 there were 11 kids under 10 and it was awesome it was so much so talk about national events and

01:14:18.320 And those are kind of well-defined over the course of what the AFA does.

01:14:23.900 And now those are almost always at our Hoffs.

01:14:30.620 As far as moots that I've been to,

01:14:38.960 first, the importance of them.

01:14:41.240 They're extremely important.

01:14:42.600 And if you look at any of our social media or here on YouTube,

01:14:46.100 I share pictures of them all the time.

01:14:48.320 There's bigger ones or smaller ones. There's a lot of different settings or things you can do, but at its most fundamental level, it's a group of AFA members getting together to do stuff.

01:15:03.460 Sometimes they're just fun socializing and getting to know each other.

01:15:09.140 Other times they include a bloat and a stumble and are more worship related and kind of overtly also true.

01:15:18.400 But they take a lot of different shapes.

01:15:22.760 I'm trying to think of one in particular that was like my favorite I've ever done or favorite I've ever been to.

01:15:33.460 I don't mean for it to be a cop-out answer, but I, I hosted dinner at my house every month

01:15:43.840 and invite AFA members to it.

01:15:46.740 It's usually not anything, you know, overtly in your face, also true, because where we

01:15:54.140 are here, we get a lot of that at our half.

01:15:57.900 A lot of it is just building those bonds and making connections and getting to know each

01:16:02.260 other and spending time between our families and our members um there have been a lot of really

01:16:09.700 special ones of those i think probably for me one of the most special ones was the first time i was

01:16:17.860 hosting one of my dinners and had steve and sheila both you know at my table at my house

01:16:26.420 you know as my guests for a move that i was hosting and that was really kind of a

01:16:32.260 a special thing for me you know steve and sheila steve founded this they're the reason that you

01:16:40.660 know the austral folk assembly exists and that also true is has made it as far as we have

01:16:47.540 and very much the folks that you know so many of us looked up to when we first came home to

01:16:54.420 to australia and found the gods and found our way home and having our founder and his wife

01:17:00.820 at a mood at my tables as my guests that was really special to me so that was that was kind

01:17:08.420 of a nice one but there's different ones that are special for different reasons to different folks

01:17:12.820 but the bottom line is they're they're essential and they don't

01:17:20.420 if you're at a distance or if you're on the fence about going to one and you're hemming and hawing

01:17:26.740 about whether you should or you shouldn't and you're waiting for the perfect one looks spectacular

01:17:32.020 that's got the biggest lineup or is going to be the best stop just go to the next one you find

01:17:39.620 and it's some of the smallest ones are the best ones they're the most intimate you get to know

01:17:45.460 people the best you get to open up the most you know large ones are awesome because it's great

01:17:51.300 to have so many people there together but really small ones are great too because you really get

01:17:55.860 to know people you really get to build those friendships but they're really important they're

01:17:59.620 kind of what sustain this if you're at a distance and if you're not you know right around the hoff

01:18:05.140 so i'd encourage everybody if you look at that calendar i talked about at runestone.org

01:18:10.260 i think you'd be surprised how close we have loops to you in your area

01:18:20.900 ashley what do you look forward to most with your upcoming outsider wedding

01:18:25.860 What may your day look like for those who haven't seen An House True Wedding?

01:18:30.860 Congratulations, lovely lady.

01:18:33.860 Thank you.

01:18:36.860 Well, looking forward to the day overall.

01:18:40.860 It's going to be a coming together culmination of our family and our field.

01:18:50.500 both of our families um are supportive but they you know they are uh not practicing also true

01:18:59.140 so we are we're not having like a different wedding or anything this is this is this is it

01:19:04.340 you know and so it's um it's going to be i'm very excited to show my um both of our families

01:19:13.300 what it is that we're so involved in and all the things that we do and um to meet the people that

01:19:18.580 that means so much to us and um you know those those two worlds kind of coming together is very

01:19:24.100 exciting um and there's some other details that maybe i won't um divulge right now but there's

01:19:32.580 just some very exciting people um involved in the whole in the whole thing um and the

01:19:40.260 The basis of hand fasting is something that is, it's a core to a lot of wedding culture.

01:19:48.740 So the whole tying the knot, you know, comes from the hand fasting portion of the ceremony

01:19:53.460 that, you know, many people don't know or correlate it to, but that's what it comes

01:19:58.540 from and the root of it.

01:19:59.780 And it's a really, truly beautiful concept and having that be an active part of our ceremony

01:20:07.960 is exciting.

01:20:10.260 something that i you know is a really special thing about about weddings um it's great when

01:20:22.500 our people are able to bring their families around and we encourage that i mean obviously

01:20:27.140 their wife and kids around we'd encourage that and they should join but the parents should join

01:20:33.140 too but it's something different when you get are able to bring your parents around to to see this

01:20:39.380 and to experience it and it explains it in a way that sometimes is awkward to folks or sometimes

01:20:49.560 you know your parents might have not have the context to really understand the seriousness

01:20:54.280 of what we do it's really special when you're able to have your parents at at something and

01:21:01.240 weddings are really really nice opportunity for that so that's fantastic i remember that was a

01:21:08.700 And that was the moment that I think my dad and my stepmother really took this very seriously is when they came to attend Mandy and my wedding seven years ago now.

01:21:23.560 But, yeah, it's just really cool for your parents to get to get to see and appreciate something that you take very seriously.

01:21:38.700 oh okay so we have a question has there ever been an afa member

01:21:47.340 that has run for a place in politics i'm going to say yes because i think the odds are that that's

01:21:54.940 been the case for some minor office like school board or you know zoning commission or whatever

01:22:02.940 but not that i know of i don't know of any specific case where any afa member is run for

01:22:09.260 an elected office

01:22:18.700 so uh wolf throne ask thoughts on guido von list's interpretation as valhalla being a metaphor for

01:22:25.260 reincarnation so I think some there's a lot of different angles to that question first we don't

01:22:39.380 believe in one for one reincarnation as being a common occurrence I don't want to negate it

01:22:48.060 as ever being a possibility if our gods will that to be so in a very special set of circumstances

01:22:54.060 but we don't see a lot of that that doesn't seem to be the norm at all um but what happens and this

01:23:02.800 is this is why i that's why the details matter on what's being asked there are many parts to our

01:23:12.260 soul some of those parts do get bequeathed down the family line to members of our folk

01:23:20.740 Some of those things include luck and memory and certain skill sets and personality traits and things, and those are much more likely to be manifested if a naming is done in that person's honor traditionally.

01:23:44.000 But that's a difference than being that person. The I, the Ick, that part of the soul conjoins with some other really important parts to form the fundamental of who you are that transcends the physical and the things necessary for existence in Midgard.

01:24:06.060 we absolutely celebrate meister von list as a hero of our faith his initial

01:24:18.860 awakening started a lot of what we did and what we do it was also you know

01:24:27.920 incomplete um i think a lot of it was taking some first steps that we have

01:24:38.840 evolved on and made better and learned you know learned from errors and adjusted to

01:24:47.340 it isn't a criticism we all start at different places but a lot of what he was working with

01:24:55.420 were Eastern traditions where full reincarnation was a very, very common thing.

01:25:02.220 There's a lot of reintegration at that time between, you know, Hindu, exotic, oriental schools of thought and schools of religion,

01:25:12.340 especially since there's a common, very ancient connection between Vedic religion and our, you know, our faith in ancient Ausatru.

01:25:22.160 i think he leaned on that really heavily i think a lot of the time looking at there was a need by

01:25:29.260 that early generation to attribute a lot of things to metaphor that i don't think

01:25:35.520 are metaphorically or beyond or belong there but you have to understand this is a generation

01:25:42.560 of people that were awakening from, you know, shoot, in Austria, 16, 1700 years of, you

01:26:00.580 know, the unhealthy spirituality for our folk of Christianity, and they were trying

01:26:11.120 to do a lot of mental gymnastics there and breaking from that. 0.67

01:26:15.940 And I think a lot of those things are a result of that.

01:26:18.120 So no, I don't think that that's what Valhalla is about,

01:26:22.800 is a metaphor for reincarnation.

01:26:27.180 And I want to kind of pair this with the follow-up question.

01:26:33.540 Guido von Liszt calls Surtur the unrevealed God,

01:26:38.700 the Great Spirit, the Holy Spirit,

01:26:40.560 and puts him even higher than odin in the hierarchy thoughts on this interpretation

01:26:45.520 well obviously i don't agree with that interpretation i think that's i think that's

01:26:52.960 i think a lot of those things are are just objectively wrong and mistaken understandings

01:26:58.400 of a lot of things and i think some of it was on unnecessary levels of mental gymnastics that

01:27:05.920 don't need to be there um you know i would never claim to be an armonist or to buy into a lot of

01:27:18.960 a lot of those more out there theories that came in those circles

01:27:26.480 it's it's hard when you go back because it's one of those things it hasn't been a linear progression

01:27:30.960 And so it's really hard to, when what we have as a point of commonality is the big religions we're familiar with, like Christianity, Judaism, Islam, their claim is that it's always been perfect.

01:27:53.620 Everyone who's ever come before is perfect. Those who follow are perfect because everything they ever said is direct revelation from their God.

01:28:03.940 And that's not something that we believe in our faith.

01:28:09.880 We have a lot of of mortal people that are doing their best to understand our gods, to learn from and to develop wisdom in our faith.

01:28:22.500 and our faith grows and evolves in a natural way and i think that's very much the case with

01:28:28.900 all ethnic faiths that i'm familiar with aside from judaism which the other two that i mentioned

01:28:35.620 evolved from so we're not pretending that everyone who's come before has had it just right and

01:28:43.700 perfect no we evolve all the time to come to a better understanding we have so much more available

01:28:48.420 to us now and we've got since meister von liszt's time we've got you know depending what part of

01:28:55.940 his life we've got a hundred years of gift cycle with the gods that we've built and learned from

01:29:01.540 and a hundred years of our gods exchanging and giving to us blessings and wisdom and helping us

01:29:09.860 come to a better understanding of their truths and so i know i don't buy into that either i

01:29:15.620 obviously very opposed to you know the i don't know the uh deific the

01:29:24.820 one of deification is even the right word the celebration of surter

01:29:31.780 ultimately that is a destructive force of entropy and so much of what we do is battling against

01:29:39.540 entropy it's very obvious if you read our lore that our gods are in a constant battle with

01:29:47.220 chaotic forces of entropy and to escape that it's very it's one of the things i'll say true

01:29:57.380 doesn't i think this is kind of a i don't want to put this

01:30:02.420 accepting the same cosmology of something doesn't make one a practitioner of that religion

01:30:12.760 it's hard because using the term satanist it's come on with an entirely different

01:30:20.000 meaning at this point but like literal devil worshipers

01:30:23.680 are in the same you know they accept the same cosmology as as christians do

01:30:31.920 But they're clearly on the other team. Those are two very different views of the world and two different religions with two different allegiances. Understanding our ancestors' cosmology doesn't automatically make you Ausitru. Being loyal to the Aesir makes you Ausitru.

01:30:52.640 and that means you know being on the good guys team and not on the bad guys team i hate to

01:30:58.920 simplify it that much but i think it really starts from that level of simplicity and you work from

01:31:04.840 there and it's worthwhile reducing it down to that i think there was and still is a current

01:31:12.460 to where people like to go way farther than necessary

01:31:18.200 to try to come up with innovative theories

01:31:23.300 or rationalizations on things

01:31:25.360 that are sometimes very, very simple.

01:31:34.640 Oh, yeah, I'm supposed to remind people to do this.

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01:31:56.120 um one of the things about that unfortunately with some of that world culture the afa does

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01:32:41.880 Ashley, who is your favorite AFA hero and why?

01:32:50.140 I, hmm.

01:32:56.300 Well, I guess probably

01:32:58.540 I'd have to go with a toss in between to my head.

01:33:04.200 Road the Strong is a story that I've been told since I was very young from my grandma,

01:33:15.200 my grandma Weiss, and so it's a story that I've known for a long time but not the details

01:33:22.520 basis of it and the sheer um the sheer defiance and um and um and just devotion to

01:33:37.800 being true is being right and no matter what um holding true to that is is something that i

01:33:44.680 don't think it exists much in people physically anymore and and is something

01:33:52.680 that is an embodiment of everything that we made a metaphor more of everything

01:33:58.240 that we're doing moving forward even though it's so much easier to do to put

01:34:03.400 your head down and and not have the conflict or the you know or the tension

01:34:10.440 or or the the questions that comes along with being something other than the the three mainstream

01:34:19.240 for the greater good and for

01:34:22.760 for the sake of our people and the gods you know is um is something that i didn't know that i

01:34:28.200 agreed with for so long because it was just a story that i was told when i was a kid so

01:34:31.960 i'd say that's what i'd say all right um

01:34:42.520 i don't know there are a lot of a lot of very inspirational um

01:34:50.040 a lot of very inspirational heroes the one that stood out to me and kind of my first

01:34:54.920 First, one of our heroes that was very influential on me initially when I came to House of Truth

01:35:03.960 was King Radbot of the Frisians, because the story is really inspiring and I think spoke

01:35:16.820 to a little bit of how I came to Ausatru.

01:35:22.660 Anybody not familiar with the story?

01:35:26.760 You know, the Christians had 1.00

01:35:29.620 beat down the Frisians for a long time 1.00

01:35:36.460 and had gotten it to where they'd, you know,

01:35:40.820 basically convinced them to,

01:35:44.080 at least the ruling class of them,

01:35:46.660 And, you know, they're ready to abandon the gods and they they're wavering on their faith. 0.69

01:35:51.540 And they saw these displays of power by the Christians and, you know, all right, I guess this is what we got to do. 0.87

01:35:59.360 And, you know, he's getting ready to. And he he was, as the story goes, he was about to be baptized in front of all the assembled tribesmen. 0.67

01:36:08.720 Because at the time, if a leader was baptized or embraced a faith, their whole country went with them.

01:36:15.340 so he's getting ready to and you know he's putting his foot in the baptismal font at the

01:36:21.920 last minute he's you know he asked um the bishop who was going to baptize him you know where hold

01:36:28.960 on what you know where are my ancestors because it's been an inherent thing i think for probably

01:36:37.120 all of humanity certainly for our folk that we look forward to being reunited with our ancestors

01:36:45.220 after death that's just something we inherently know is right and how things work and so he's like

01:36:53.360 you know wait where are my ancestors if i do that what you know what's this going to do and the

01:36:58.000 bishop says that your ancestors you know they're surely burning in hell and he and he thought about

01:37:05.840 it and he took his foot out and he said you know as it's come down to us he said you know i'd rather

01:37:12.300 burned for eternity with my ancestors in hell 0.96

01:37:16.120 than to be in heaven with a parcel of beggars. 1.00

01:37:20.480 And with that, he maintained his people's troth to the Iser. 0.97

01:37:25.220 And that said a lot. 0.84

01:37:29.580 When I came to Ausatru,

01:37:31.100 it wasn't a...

01:37:34.980 I didn't leave Christianity for Ausatru. 0.97

01:37:38.820 I left Christianity because it was bad. 0.99

01:37:42.300 and it wasn't the right way to live and so I had to do something else 0.57

01:37:47.800 and that was really scary because I didn't know what else there was I didn't know what options I

01:37:57.120 had as far as I knew I'm turning my back on the all-powerful God of the universe

01:38:02.820 because he's a bad person for lack of a better term uh-oh what do I do now

01:38:09.300 and that was a really scary moment of some soul searching and

01:38:15.940 so i really sympathize with that that was the first and we talked about moots and some of our

01:38:22.420 favorite moots that was the first uh dinner that i held at my house as a as a moot was a celebration

01:38:28.680 of Radbot's Day of Remembrance.

01:38:32.800 And so, yeah, that's probably my favorite.

01:38:40.280 There's a lot of heroes that I really like.

01:38:43.940 That's probably my favorite of the AFA's heroes.

01:38:54.440 What else we got here?

01:38:58.680 i'm looking for the next question on here got a little bit different situation with

01:39:14.920 how we're sorting questions tonight so bear with me guys i'll find them for you

01:39:20.120 um okay so can you touch on why it's important to treat the gods as persons and not as some

01:39:34.520 thing to gain some sort of personal benefit from um what say you on that ashley

01:39:41.560 so again just relating it personally so growing up Catholic there's a sphere a lot that's instilled

01:39:56.440 that there's this this entity and being that is mysterious that knows all and will smite you if

01:40:04.000 you know they're justified um but it's this whole idea and um you know a blind faith in it

01:40:12.720 then coming to aussitrew and there being real real stories in the lore of of the gods that are

01:40:23.760 um that are relatable that are things that when you know forgot feared for balder as a as a mother

01:40:30.640 to it to a child even though they're the gods they still hold this this um true emotion in um

01:40:37.440 in reality that is that makes everything that much more significant when you are when you're on your

01:40:44.320 path and um in connecting with your deities you know i think um seeing as it as a like magical

01:40:53.040 spell that if you say the right things to the right god in the right circumstance and you'll

01:40:58.320 suddenly gain this power, you know, feeds into that, you know, the Marvel side of, of, you know,

01:41:04.840 any, any connotation with, with Asatru, it feeds into that, the fantasy, um, kind of interpretation

01:41:11.820 of, of things that, you know, uh, that Viking show in, in, in Marvel and all that has kind of,

01:41:18.480 like, um, created a path in, you know, staying on the side of, of our gods being mortal and having

01:41:28.140 true passion

01:41:31.100 and pain and everything that goes

01:41:33.080 along with that, it makes it something that

01:41:34.980 you can actually be devoted

01:41:37.020 to.

01:41:43.520 Yeah, it's

01:41:44.740 so

01:41:49.200 it's not

01:41:55.660 But religion, specifically our religion, is about relationships.

01:42:14.180 it's not a

01:42:17.660 it's not transactional and it's not

01:42:26.000 like a

01:42:29.600 mathematical process

01:42:35.780 like I'm trying to think of the way to equate this

01:42:40.120 but a lot of certainly a lot of new age things they invoke the gods or work with the gods to do

01:42:48.840 this or that personally no they don't secondly to presume that they do is just disrespectful

01:42:56.600 but thirdly it doesn't work that way if i do the right dance in the right sequence of stuff

01:43:02.840 That doesn't give me power to command gods to do things. 0.99

01:43:06.800 That's dumb. 0.97

01:43:08.180 And first, that's just not true. 0.99

01:43:11.400 And it's absurd on the face of it.

01:43:12.800 But it's also offensive.

01:43:14.740 It's about the building of relationships.

01:43:21.560 That's the difference between the gift cycle and something much more transitional.

01:43:28.820 Or not transitional, transactional.

01:43:32.060 it's you share gifts with your friends and family that you care about

01:43:38.540 and there's reciprocity when gifts and when hospitality are shared the person who is shared

01:43:44.460 with then you know is motivated to extend the same to you but it's not the same as you see with

01:43:53.580 very transit transactional religions where if you do x y and z then there god will do

01:43:59.740 you know a b and c for you that's not what it is it's not a business arrangement

01:44:06.220 it's not a mathematical you know the gods are not a a blessings machine that if you enter the right

01:44:14.300 currency you get x you know quantity of blessing from any enter even approaching them with that

01:44:25.580 interaction is offensive on the face of it just like it would be to another person

01:44:30.860 we've always related to the divine in the sense of them being our family and in in many ways we

01:44:39.100 consider them our most ancient ancestors you would never interact with your family in that way or if

01:44:45.980 you do that's the result that results in a lot of family dysfunction you do things for members

01:44:53.740 of your family out of love out of loyalty and out of bonds of relationship that you build

01:45:02.940 and that's very much how it is with our gods and

01:45:10.460 again people miss the point if they search for the expression of that in lore

01:45:15.980 certainly it's there and you find it but i don't need that for the last 20 years i've been

01:45:23.500 engaged in the gift cycle with my gods and they've blessed me tremendously and i know that i know that

01:45:31.420 in my very soul i know that in every part of my life and those who've been active in the afa and

01:45:37.660 been part of that exchange over you know the we're in the 30th year of existence as the afa and

01:45:49.340 And some have experienced Alistair True even before that with our founder going all the way back to 1968.

01:45:58.220 Those people have experienced the gods in their life.

01:46:02.340 It's very much about that.

01:46:04.120 And once you begin to approach them as beings with will, with thought, with personality, then you really can experience that relationship because it truly is about relationship building.

01:46:34.120 We got another question on this second time we've heard about this. Do you guys know about

01:46:53.780 the Declaration of Tradition, which is being pushed by some heathen communities? If so, 0.95

01:46:59.780 what is your opinion on that uh ashley are you aware of the declaration of tradition um

01:47:07.380 no not specifically no like i haven't heard of that but i think i could just

01:47:14.900 sure um but i and i looked it up last time because somebody asked about it

01:47:20.180 like track like trad you know trad um trad trends it's

01:47:31.620 it's basically a group of people that i haven't heard of before trying to get a bunch of different

01:47:39.860 folks that claim to be some form of vows to true to sign off and agree on kind of like

01:47:49.740 declaration 127 but it's not a woke like gross document it's about a lot of pretty

01:47:57.380 good traditions it didn't look bad from what i saw um is it controversial is there a reason

01:48:06.360 that's being noticed i i don't know i don't that's the thing i don't

01:48:12.520 i don't

01:48:15.640 because there's like this whole you know what came to mind was like the trad wives on uh tick tock

01:48:20.200 that are either loved or or hated you know for no other reason than they're not um no this is

01:48:25.320 the this is a thing by all of the folkish people that aren't in the afa okay and we don't associate

01:48:35.400 with those people. Honestly, it, you know, that's one of the things that

01:48:40.320 if you're Ausitry, you should be in the AFA. If you're not, then you're something else. And we

01:48:47.920 really don't pay attention to what those something else guys are doing. They should be over here.

01:48:54.840 And if they were, we'd be, you know, we'd be able to accomplish a lot more together than,

01:49:00.440 you know spread out uh i have learned very much in the last 20 years there's there's no such thing

01:49:08.480 as some kind of greater heathen community of of whatever there's really not everybody being on

01:49:18.100 some kind of team that's moving forward it really is the astro folk assembly for all the people that 1.00

01:49:26.300 don't want to be part of the Ask True Folk Assembly and the very reasons that make them

01:49:31.620 not want to be part of the Ask True Folk Assembly is why we're not really concerned with what they're 0.75

01:49:37.800 what they're up to and you know the various documents but that's not to be a jerk I read it

01:49:43.860 it looks it looks nice I don't have any any great objective objection to you know what I briefly

01:49:50.160 went over on it yeah it's like online well uh again i don't know i'm not not an expert um but

01:50:01.360 it's kind of a yeah people let people ask about it it's a whole lot of individuals and a lot of

01:50:08.880 folks i hadn't heard of somebody last time was saying it was you know originated from some norena

01:50:14.480 folks um perhaps that's the case a question from a friend if someone has been asked you for a while

01:50:23.120 but has yet to personally read the lore which book or poem would you recommend first

01:50:32.160 and i think that he's asking specifically lore not something about the lore so ashley what would

01:50:38.880 you recommend um so i guess we're talking um interpretation um this is the poetic edit and then

01:50:56.000 you know going through section by section and and finding the most conducive

01:51:02.320 of interpretation of them. So, I mean, there's blanking on, starts with a B. For the Uluspa

01:51:13.480 is what I'm thinking of right now. But what that leads me to just the thought process

01:51:19.460 is if you're asking for a friend who's not super familiar with things, it's very hard

01:51:24.800 to just retain words that you haven't read a lot, especially names that are, you know,

01:51:31.040 very long and they have a lot of you know like two vowels and you know it's it's hard when you're

01:51:36.400 first starting to jump right into that it was for me anyway it's not impossible but the route that

01:51:41.680 i found that was that was doable that really did genuinely help was um finding um any that any

01:51:51.600 audiobook of any of the lore and just listening to it in the background as your first step in a

01:51:56.960 basis and then when you step up to sitting down and reading and wanting to have some comprehension

01:52:01.680 of what you're reading you have this kind of like subconscious base knowledge of words that

01:52:06.000 you've heard before and it's a little bit easier to then hold on to some of it because you're not

01:52:11.120 stuck on one name or one you know trying to connect some dots you know and that's that's

01:52:16.880 kind of the mode that i took when uh right right directly before i found the afa i was trying to

01:52:22.720 make sure that i was learning what i needed to um was you know was that mode there and it's you

01:52:28.880 know because i think people get turned away when they get confused or just you know it's it's

01:52:34.560 impossible to um to retain seemingly um you know but maybe that's just yeah i it's a challenging

01:52:44.880 question um that's one of the hardest things as far as somebody who just gets involved

01:52:52.320 if you want to jump right into the lore is our lore is all based

01:53:00.400 on and was written for an audience that was already very familiar with

01:53:05.520 the basics of our gods and our cosmology and kind of the high points of their you know

01:53:17.680 their identity and their existence and how that worked

01:53:22.120 rediscovering that if you don't have those points of reference is tricky so i would suggest that

01:53:31.200 whatever uh your friend reads that they you know keep the and honestly it's it is what it is keep

01:53:41.760 the wikipedia in one hand and the book in the other and take the time to go down the rabbit holes

01:53:50.160 um also and this may be self-serving but it's i mean you asked me the question

01:53:57.520 i would encourage them to maybe do a read along in um with some of the episodes that svan and i

01:54:06.400 have already done and that we're going to do in the future because then you know we can help on

01:54:11.920 some of the understanding of it because a little bit tricky if you don't have the uh

01:54:16.400 backing as far as which poems to read first

01:54:20.080 i think uh i think the gilfaginning is a really good one because it lays things out

01:54:34.560 very specifically i think the velospow and the gilfaginning would probably be the two that i

01:54:42.180 would suggest off the top of my head as far as edict poems that you know i would suggest somebody

01:54:48.380 read first um also on the side but also part of our lore is beowulf if they read it knowing

01:54:59.500 that there's christian gloss over some of it that's very obvious like the people talking about

01:55:05.260 christ and whatever we're talking about that before those tribes of people were

01:55:09.980 you know were converted so i would you know if you could somehow de christianize that or they

01:55:18.380 go in fully understanding that not being you know surprised by that then then beowulf would be

01:55:24.140 probably first three i'd recommend

01:55:31.500 uh matt and ashley what is the austro stance on fate slash destiny versus free will thanks

01:55:39.340 That is something that, like reincarnation, I think is often misunderstood in Ausatru.

01:55:46.840 What is really important is to not meditate on our religion or read our lore in a bubble as if it exists outside of the things that you know in the life that you've experienced.

01:56:16.840 free will is absolutely a thing you know that we all know that we all know like and if you take it

01:56:25.440 to its most basic level you know like what are you doing right now are you picking your nose did

01:56:30.680 the norms really weave in that you were going to pick your nose right now or did you just feel an

01:56:35.100 itch or something going on that you needed to scratch it it's kind of ridiculous to think that

01:56:40.880 every little anything is somehow written in fate. And it's also a very convenient excuse not to take

01:56:50.580 personal responsibility. So much of our lore is very much built upon the expression of will.

01:57:01.040 Will has no meaning if there is no free will. I was going to try to look for something else,

01:57:10.440 But if will doesn't exist, then will doesn't have a meaning.

01:57:14.500 Will and heroic action are kind of the point of so much of our religion.

01:57:24.400 You can't have heroic action.

01:57:27.000 You can't do something heroic if there's no free will.

01:57:31.360 one of the key things and one of the things Ashley mentioned earlier in the program with the

01:57:40.060 virtue recovery is you don't just let go and let God or whatever let Jesus take the wheel or

01:57:46.240 whatever that is that's not what we do it's very juxtaposed to what we do not that you don't in

01:57:53.080 moments of desperation cry out for help from the gods absolutely but they help you do stuff

01:58:00.700 not do stuff for you.

01:58:06.800 Nothing's heroic if you're just an automaton

01:58:10.660 that the gods somehow walk through life.

01:58:14.680 There's no point in existence if that's the case.

01:58:18.340 So obviously free will is hugely important

01:58:20.960 and a huge factor.

01:58:24.320 That said, the idea that there are forces

01:58:29.360 that propel you in a certain direction

01:58:34.720 or nudge you towards a certain way to go.

01:58:39.500 Absolutely.

01:58:40.400 There are currents within fate

01:58:42.220 that push you the right way.

01:58:44.540 And that's built on past action.

01:58:47.480 It's built on the inheritance that you get.

01:58:52.020 It's built on your luck,

01:58:54.020 your earth,

01:58:56.720 which means fate that you that you've accumulated the norms have woven a tapestry and it's

01:59:02.880 interesting to look at the names of our norms because they roughly correspond to past present

01:59:11.580 and future and when we look at you know the norm of past her name doesn't really just mean past

01:59:21.420 it means fate. And that has to do with the past. It is a culmination of past action or propelling

01:59:29.080 you in a direction. Her name is earth, which is the same, you know, root word of fate.

01:59:36.240 Verdandi is about, you know, the now and what's happening now. And the one that you would think

01:59:41.540 is certain for outcome, no, her name is Skob. That means what should happen. Doesn't mean what 0.93

01:59:48.600 will happen, what has to happen, but it is a projection of, cool, if this maintains the course

01:59:54.700 it is going, then this is where it's going to end up. But you have the opportunity to reject

02:00:03.580 where you are the destiny that is, you know, that you are being propelled towards.

02:00:10.260 And that can be good or bad. If you've made a whole bunch of bad choices and you've been a

02:00:14.560 scumbag all the time and you're a scumbag now, then you've probably got bad things that 1.00

02:00:18.660 you are fated towards. But your free will allows you to alter that course. 1.00

02:00:27.400 Same thing if you're positioned well, if your forebearers have given you, you know,

02:00:33.660 all of the right momentum and the right direction towards a glorious destiny.

02:00:39.240 If you're just like, nah, I'm going to sit here and do nothing with my life.

02:00:42.420 that can happen too there are forces within that tapestry that push you towards a certain outcome

02:00:50.220 but your will is supremely important and it's the very basis of heroism of the concept of

02:01:01.640 any sort of ascension within also true is through the exercise of your free will

02:01:06.820 Do you have anything to add on that, Ashley?

02:01:10.820 Yeah.

02:01:11.820 I'm glad that you used the word current because with fate being incorporated, you know, past,

02:01:19.820 present, future, our forward right action really can change the trajectory of that current.

02:01:29.820 You know, like you were saying, if you came from making bad decisions and you're continuing

02:01:34.820 that current is going to go that way, you know, but that forward, right, action, that

02:01:38.840 building a momentum for good is, you know, what pushes you the right way.

02:01:45.700 Another thing being, you know, the tapestry is weaving.

02:01:50.040 It hasn't been completely woven, you know, it's not done, it's not, it's never, the web

02:01:58.600 is intertwining with every human that you meet and every choice that you make and every

02:02:03.640 action that you take those things are are happening um you know presently and not not an already

02:02:09.880 decided um thing but to go on into um hand in hand with the virtue recovery meeting is a huge part

02:02:19.000 of our separation from the 12-step meeting you know it's all that you know i am in the 12-step

02:02:25.800 meetings that you're here for god's will and i am here to you know he will guide me and i will give

02:02:30.520 it to my god and all those things and it takes away that that personal responsibility and that

02:02:35.240 personal ability um you know to either be better or to take responsibility for what you know um

02:02:42.440 what you have gotten yourself into and that whole concept seems to be such a fundamental

02:02:47.720 difference um in the majority of other religions and it's almost um it's when you break it down

02:02:55.000 like that it's surprising and how big of a difference that is because it seems common

02:02:59.160 sense that of course you should be in control of the things that you do in the life that you're

02:03:04.200 living because if not then what's even what what would the point be of of being here in this world

02:03:09.960 and in this life if you were just this you know video game placeholder to just do what you know

02:03:16.600 somebody is controlling you to do what would be the point of you being here you know so

02:03:21.400 and we know that logically that's kind of my an overall thing that i would really like people to

02:03:29.520 take from that that's just that's just true and we know that logic um

02:03:36.540 and the other truth that kind of comes to that and this goes back to the reincarnation question

02:03:46.420 and swan and i will do a little bit more on that here coming up we've already talked about it

02:03:50.880 because a lot of people have questions on it.

02:03:54.320 Whatever the answer is, we know certain truths.

02:03:58.900 We interact with our dead ancestors beyond the veil.

02:04:03.040 They come to greet us when we die and we pass on and go into that journey.

02:04:10.000 We're greeted by our ancestors if they find us worthy.

02:04:13.800 We know that they hear us when we make offerings at our altars.

02:04:19.620 We know that they are with us and they watch over us.

02:04:22.900 They become our desir and our alfar and they look after us and care for us.

02:04:28.620 That's one of the also fundamentals to existence that we all realize.

02:04:32.860 Whether people are religious or not, in moments of they're in their fields or for whatever reason, you know, they reach out to their ancestors like, you know, hey, mom, I miss you.

02:04:47.480 And I wish you were here, whatever.

02:04:49.620 people talk to their dead ancestors all the time without even thinking about it because it's

02:04:53.780 something we fundamentally believe in um we know that to be true that can't function

02:05:06.500 certainly it cannot function in a one-for-one reincarnation no they just go in there they

02:05:11.140 recycle and look now they're your grandson it can't work exactly like that whatever the answer

02:05:19.060 is it can't be just that or else you're at your altar you know making your offerings and all of

02:05:25.300 sudden your grandkid wakes up in the other room and like responds to you that's not how that

02:05:29.380 communication works and we know that and and i i don't please understand this about me i don't do

02:05:36.420 any of that just to be silly that's not the point of it the way that i like to process stuff that's

02:05:41.860 always served me really well in my life is taking big complex things that you can navel gaze about

02:05:48.820 for eternity and trying to boil them down to the most simple the most simple thing and then

02:05:56.580 building from there so there's a lot more to it i don't mean to cheapen it but we know that it

02:06:02.740 doesn't work like that so however it does work is something else and that's that's kind of a starting

02:06:16.580 place on that um ashley do you believe in cryptids like bigfoot um bigfoot specifically uh cryptids

02:06:29.460 generally and because he's specified probably well yeah so i um there isn't a a um cryptid you will

02:06:41.220 specifically that i you know i would like go on a hunt for it but i do believe that there are um

02:06:48.260 things and and things on this world that this earth that we don't know or see or or are privy

02:06:55.540 to it's um you know it's it's it's existence i guess is what i would say so um nothing

02:07:01.460 specifically but i um definitely think there's a lot that we don't experience

02:07:11.220 do i believe in cryptids

02:07:16.080 no do i want to yes i can't honestly tell you that i do but i'm fascinated by the possibility

02:07:29.240 of it i would really like to um like i nerd out on like watching bigfoot shows and stuff and

02:07:40.120 i hope that's the thing i can't honestly tell you that i think that the odds are better that

02:07:48.220 there is than that there's not but it'd be really cool if there was

02:07:51.380 the mystery of that is just really cool it's one of those things

02:07:56.680 not long ago at all there were a lot of corners of this earth that were unexplored

02:08:04.580 and you could think that maybe in some deep jungle somewhere there's this crazy

02:08:10.040 creature that nobody's ever seen we're in a place where there's less and less and less and less of

02:08:16.860 that um but it'd be really cool if it was a thing i i really want that to be the case i hope it's

02:08:25.200 the case but no i can't honestly tell you i believe in that well and i think like an ocean

02:08:28.740 based uh you know creature of some sort would be the most plausible because there is so much that

02:08:33.580 haven't seen or explored there you know so that that would be more plausible than you know so

02:08:39.420 you know go ahead no no go for it oh i was going to say one of the things that kind of

02:08:44.540 primed me for that thought early on was i grew up in alaska and down down here and anywhere i've been

02:08:54.380 you know over 48 you go out hiking anywhere you want to go you run into people people have been

02:09:01.100 just about every you know it's hard to find a spot that you can step that somebody hasn't stepped

02:09:07.740 before in alaska there is hundreds and hundreds of square miles of space that you can't confidently

02:09:19.180 say anybody has ever stepped before ever and so the idea that there's something out there

02:09:25.740 mysterious that you don't know about is kind of a cool idea especially growing up it's really

02:09:31.100 cool thing to think about the other thing that messed me up with bigfoot

02:09:35.080 is unsolved mysteries now folks out there that that might be my age or their bouts

02:09:42.780 unsolved mysteries was terrifying but it was real all of the time robert stack would come on there

02:09:51.480 and he would tell you about very dramatically tell you about these real things that happen

02:09:56.740 these real unsolved mysteries people that disappeared off face the earth and crimes that

02:10:02.340 happened that were never solved and all this stuff and you'd have updates and they would find these

02:10:07.460 people or get to the bottom of it but they were all like real things and then they shuffled in

02:10:14.100 a bigfoot episode and as a kid as like a little kid like no this is the news this is the news this

02:10:21.300 this is the news, this is the news.

02:10:23.020 Well, that was the news too.

02:10:25.200 And it came, I believe it used to come on Friday nights

02:10:28.980 and I had to go camping the next day.

02:10:32.520 I was terrified.

02:10:34.380 And I think that stuck with me as a kid.

02:10:38.580 They rebooted that show, it's on Netflix now.

02:10:41.600 I've seen that.

02:10:42.600 There's some that were cool

02:10:43.900 and then some that were kind of disappointing.

02:10:45.420 I appreciate to do the Robert Stack ghost image

02:10:48.940 at the beginning, that's neat, that made me happy.

02:10:51.820 Same font.

02:10:52.640 I use like the same font and stuff.

02:10:56.600 Are weddings in Ausatru in some way different from weddings in Christianity or other religions?

02:11:04.040 You've seen a couple so far, haven't you, Ashley?

02:11:07.960 I've seen, actually, just one in person.

02:11:12.200 I definitely have gone through the logistics of them in the background.

02:11:17.240 but um yeah the only one that i saw was the uh the duffies um and that was at the first um

02:11:25.000 uh hall fest and so that was yep but i mean i think the biggest difference being

02:11:30.280 um you know this the spiritual aspects of things i think a lot of people don't understand just how

02:11:36.600 much came from our traditions that are incorporated into you know other religions and their ceremony

02:11:43.400 um um but you know that like i was saying before the ham fasting portion of the wedding is my

02:11:52.040 favorite and and uh kind of a us also true original so i'm gonna throw this out there

02:11:59.140 just because it's in the chat i know he's been trying to get it out a couple of different ways

02:12:02.640 that we're glitching jay barmore wants to make the point of shouting out specifically

02:12:07.640 to all's here your go through me uh go through trent east go through nate erlinson for putting

02:12:15.600 him on to julius evola's works and one shout out to ashley uh shout to folk builders tyler and ron

02:12:23.700 thank you guys truly we appreciate that and uh yeah i'm glad uh glad folks have been able to help

02:12:30.640 i hope you enjoy that um yeah evola wrote some really cool things so i'm glad you're enjoying

02:12:37.260 that uh yeah no there i the answer to i guess

02:12:49.100 are they different i suppose because it all okay

02:12:55.980 no not really i think that most of the things that you are familiar with in a christian wedding

02:13:00.860 you would find also in an ostrichial wedding.

02:13:04.940 And some people may be disappointed by that

02:13:07.020 because they expect something else.

02:13:10.220 But so many things that are normal in Western culture

02:13:15.980 were normal in Western culture 1.00

02:13:18.980 before the desert religion of Christianity 0.54

02:13:22.660 came into Western culture.

02:13:26.160 A lot of things are co-opted.

02:13:28.880 You'll recognize so many things on Christmas and Easter and our traditions on lots of different

02:13:37.460 stuff, including how we do funerals and weddings. There's a lot of similarities. There are obviously

02:13:43.320 differences on what gods we invoke and things that way, certainly. And the other thing is,

02:13:49.500 and this is like Christian weddings too, all depends on what the bride and groom want to do.

02:13:54.860 if they've got some themed wedding they want to do or some special element that's really important

02:14:01.340 to them and as long as it's not overtly offensive to our faith in some way we're happy to accommodate

02:14:08.780 that and so yeah if somebody's got a off the wall you know someone wants to do a pirate themed

02:14:15.180 wedding or something then that's going to look you know that's going to look different because

02:14:19.500 they want it to be different but the fundamentals of the the wedding ceremony are you know the way

02:14:25.340 that we experience it in the west are traditional and pre-date christianity and in lots of ways are

02:14:31.420 very similar i think the aspect surrounding asa true weddings and afa weddings is a little less

02:14:38.300 of the um like the showboating or like you do this just because you do you know it's it's less

02:14:47.340 of a superficial show and for everyone else like traditional not all of them but i guess the ones

02:14:54.780 that i've experienced in my life have been very um very expensive and very stressful and very um

02:15:01.740 very just because because this is what we do you know kind of deal and it creates this whole just

02:15:08.380 ball of stress and chaos um going into it and in debt and all those things and um

02:15:13.900 that superficial factor is something that isn't included in my wedding much.

02:15:19.580 So cool. This is a, it's a good time for a detour.

02:15:35.980 Shouldn't have to be like that. And I don't know that it's like that in a normal Christian context. 1.00

02:15:43.180 i don't know if you can i don't know how they're set up for you celebrating the entirety of your

02:15:48.220 wedding at their facilities or whatever that's we it's very important to us the astro focus

02:15:56.620 we don't charge people for our the services of our priests that said we gladly will take

02:16:05.660 donations that way and if you want to do that please by all means that's much much appreciated

02:16:11.260 But that's not the point and should never be, you know, being involved in the sacred rites of our faith shouldn't be about that.

02:16:22.680 Just like I talked about with the gods, it's not transactional and it shouldn't be.

02:16:29.600 So very often people will do their wedding at one of our Hoffs and they'll also have their reception there as well.

02:16:38.080 people can do what they want if you want to rent out a different space then you know a go through

02:16:43.680 your githia will come to that space and perform the service that's fine um but that doesn't have

02:16:50.420 to be that way and the other thing i want to say is about um funeral services and uh interment of

02:16:58.440 people's remains at our hafs and at sigerheim trying to figure out how that world works

02:17:06.020 I was calling around before we entered our first loved one anywhere, and I couldn't get any answers from anybody trying to figure it out.

02:17:16.520 And there's all these state regulations and this and that.

02:17:19.780 And so I wanted to get to the bottom of it.

02:17:22.660 In order to do that, turns out that's by the Bureau of Consumer Affairs, because that doesn't have much to do with the disposition of remains.

02:17:40.280 It has everything to do about the financial agreement as far as paying for like grave plots and such.

02:17:50.480 i didn't realize that is a shockingly expensive thing when i went over in europe

02:17:57.480 that's beautiful graveyards and

02:17:59.600 turns out if you don't continue paying your rent for the spot

02:18:07.140 you know your kids probably will maybe your grandkids will but your great great your triple

02:18:13.560 great grandkids are probably not that connected and if your triple great grandchildren don't

02:18:20.460 pay for your spot they check you out back and that's shocking to me um again by all means please

02:18:34.300 contribute please donate i'm not going to ever you know suggest don't do that but we don't charge

02:18:41.180 our people for having their remains interred in the burial grounds at any of our Hoffs or at

02:18:50.620 Sigurheim. We're not going to do that. That's grossly offensive to me on the face of it. And

02:19:00.020 I know there's upkeep and I know there's, there's stuff and it's, it's not that you shouldn't look

02:19:04.620 for fundraising for some of those things, certainly, but no, we're not going to dispose of,

02:19:10.080 you know old old graves and people who've been there for a long time because their family

02:19:16.240 doesn't pay the bills for 200 years or

02:19:22.240 that offends me on the face of it so it's something that we don't do and that's

02:19:26.080 really important to me that we don't do that also we host again we'll send somebody you know

02:19:31.520 to wherever to do a funeral service if that's what we need to do

02:19:35.520 um but we do host those at uh at our hoffs and also the you know

02:19:44.960 lack of better term whatever reception is is happening at one of those

02:19:51.040 ah next question from cory hypothetical situation if one of our folk was living isolated and wanted

02:19:58.640 to relocate closer to the folk would you recommend moving closer to a half or to sigerheim yes

02:20:09.040 um no and i i say that that way to be silly but really that's it's a all of the above approach

02:20:18.800 either of those is a great answer there are a lot of reasons that people want to be different places

02:20:25.440 i think it is extremely important that if at all possible our folk do move closer together

02:20:33.600 that's fundamental and this is always meant to have been

02:20:39.120 participated in as a community the closer you are together the closer you're able to do that

02:20:46.720 my family and i are going to move out to sigerheim so yeah we'd love you to move out there

02:20:52.800 but you've got options you've got five options now on where you want to move close to

02:20:59.600 but moving to the direct area of any of those places is absolutely what all of our folks should

02:21:07.680 do and we're trying to get hoffs closer to everybody as fast as we can there's certain

02:21:14.960 you know there's economic issues that make that happen or not over time as it stands now we've got

02:21:23.600 four hops and we've got siggerheim and we are trying to get all of our folk to move as close to

02:21:29.920 all of those locations as possible um so yeah do that

02:21:37.360 you know i'm biased because i'm really trying to focus on building siggerheim and i'm moving

02:21:42.160 all the way across the country to be there so yeah move siggerheim but if you can't or you

02:21:46.960 don't want to you got four other really amazing options move close to one of our homes do you

02:21:53.760 have a recommendation on that ashley um i'm biased and it um being in in an area that's um

02:22:05.440 you know there's there's lots of space open and available you know and it's kind of this

02:22:10.400 little nugget of an area that's um i think unique to most of the country now where it's um there's

02:22:17.600 you know it's a vast open space and in small town america and good people that

02:22:22.480 that judge you on what you do and not what they hear about you so yeah move to murdoch benson

02:22:31.360 all right also ashley which non-aryan culture do you have the most admiration for

02:22:40.400 um i guess i haven't put a ton of thought into that but i'd say maybe swapping out admiration

02:22:55.580 more for um interest or intrigue i guess would probably be ancient egyptian culture not

02:23:03.100 current egyptian culture um you know for all the reasons but um for um the the amount of things

02:23:13.340 that uh developed and happened that we have no idea about what we think we do um is very

02:23:20.220 interesting to me you know and relating back to um kind of how we interpret things and not

02:23:29.500 for jokey reasons but to drop the show um like ancient aliens you know watching those things

02:23:35.500 they see a drawing and they think oh that looks like a spaceman suit it's not what it is that's

02:23:40.860 just what the only thing we've seen that looks like that you know and that in and of itself

02:23:45.180 that mystery that surrounds all that is is quite intriguing yeah um

02:23:51.500 i have to go with ashley's answer i said it's not something that i

02:24:03.100 really spend much time thinking about but yeah ancient egypt is fascinating

02:24:10.220 and it's fascinating for all of those reasons it's fascinating to

02:24:14.380 just see the complexity of their monuments and the fact that they still exist to this day

02:24:26.040 um certainly like the pyramid culture but even later than that

02:24:33.120 yeah ancient egypt is really really interesting and certainly worth admiring and i wish i knew a

02:24:40.580 more about it have you seen the new assassin's creed game coming out it's set in feudal japan

02:24:50.340 and you play as a black samurai people are furious i i've never played assassin's creed

02:24:58.900 i haven't i was unaware they were making a medieval black samurai that doesn't make any sense

02:25:08.580 um i would be furious too um i will i will be furious on behalf of japanese people

02:25:18.180 uh what are your what are your thoughts ashley um yeah just not very involved in that world

02:25:24.420 i'm more your crash bandicoot um type of video game player yeah it was my understanding that

02:25:34.420 But the good guys in that are communists anyway, in a lot of ways.

02:25:40.080 In Crash Bandicoot?

02:25:41.460 No.

02:25:41.900 Crash is great.

02:25:46.840 I don't know that there's overriding political themes in Crash Bandicoot.

02:25:52.400 There is.

02:25:52.960 His name is Nitro.

02:25:53.840 He's a bad guy.

02:25:54.840 And he could fall into a certain tone.

02:26:00.680 Okay.

02:26:01.200 do you think it is this one's for you ashley do you think it is possible that cryptids

02:26:08.880 may be spiritual uh which is why we can't prove their existence but people claim to see them

02:26:15.600 i heard claims creatures like the loch ness monster might be spiritual um well so i used to be

02:26:23.520 super into the old Nessie stuff when I was um early teen years just two books that are read

02:26:30.820 kind of made me dive into it and then it came out that that picture wasn't real and it really

02:26:34.600 kind of broke my heart with the whole Loch Ness monster idea so I haven't thought about it much

02:26:38.440 since then um but if thinking on the sense of um you know if cryptids were to tie into

02:26:47.540 to, you know, things of old ancient tales, like, I think it's Ireland, where they leave

02:26:57.720 out their offerings to, I don't remember what they call them, the dwarves or the elves that

02:27:06.560 live in the hills, you know, and it's, no one ever sees them, but they give them good

02:27:10.340 graces so that they don't, that they return the same deal. So that sense could maybe tie

02:27:17.540 um you know the idea of um of spiritual beings being around these things that you offer things

02:27:25.060 to like a a representation of your your offerings to things that you can't see around you um but

02:27:32.860 also like frequencies are a thing and so i think there's an idea of um maybe there are frequencies

02:27:40.220 that we don't experience around us but i don't think it's bigfoot

02:27:42.500 that's something that I've thought about and I don't

02:27:57.500 I don't want to jump on that and claim that's a thing it may very well be a thing and

02:28:06.980 um I tend to think that there's at least some element of that to it if there is you know real

02:28:15.800 existence of any of these things um yeah I think that the idea that there's some crossover that

02:28:25.400 these might be spiritual entities in some way I think that is is really tempting um

02:28:33.320 yeah i'm definitely willing to entertain that as a possibility

02:28:39.260 uh ashley do you believe in the kraken

02:28:44.820 i believe is kind of a hard word to associate with that do i think that it would be neat if

02:28:54.460 there was a kraken sure yes and i think that there's a lot of things that live in the water

02:29:01.440 that we haven't seen um no so so i think sea animals could exist i mean i don't know what

02:29:09.680 counts and what doesn't um not that long ago the japanese found you know remains of giant squid

02:29:20.000 i don't think that's unrealistic the exact proportions and how all that works

02:29:25.840 i don't know but i do think that that is we don't know what exists in the very deep ocean and

02:29:31.680 there's lots of really strange looking things that we find that do exist down there so sure

02:29:38.080 i'm more likely to believe in something like a giant squid than a lot of other things that's for

02:29:44.000 sure and i've never played it so this one's all you ashley what's your favorite crash bandicoot

02:29:50.560 game oh um so you know the first crash bandicoot is it's a classic but you know it's pretty limited

02:29:58.480 on uh extra bonus realms and whatnot but uh so crash worked the third one is probably the elite

02:30:06.960 the best one and i still have a my original playstation not play not ps1 because i didn't

02:30:14.160 know it was a one it's just the original playstation uh that i played crash bandicoot

02:30:19.280 so yeah warped the third one is pretty pretty sweet

02:30:26.960 all right well that's what we got for tonight and i knew this is going to be a little bit of

02:30:34.480 an early show because i have got to go pick up the ericsons from the airport i'm excited to do that

02:30:41.200 ashley it has been a pleasure having you on um we will have to definitely have you back

02:30:46.800 thank you so much for joining us tonight my pleasure all right well we will see you guys

02:30:55.760 next week i hope that wherever you find yourself i hope that's at odin's hof but in case it's not

02:31:02.880 i hope it's at thor's hof they're also celebrating this weekend but if it's not either of those two

02:31:07.600 places wherever it might be i hope you guys have a really great midsummer and i look forward to

02:31:12.160 talking to you next week.

02:31:15.460 Until then, hail the 0.96

02:31:16.800 Iseer, hail the folk,

02:31:19.220 hail the AFA, and remember

02:31:20.960 victory never sleeps.

02:31:42.160 We'll be right back.

02:32:12.160 Thank you.

02:32:42.160 Thank you.

02:33:12.160 Thank you.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - June 20, 2024

6⧸19⧸24 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 102

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