Asatru Folk Assembly - 6⧸3⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 204 - Prose Edda： Gylfaginning, Part 10

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00:03:30.000 Hello everyone and welcome to the

00:03:59.980 this week's edition of victory never sleeps as those of you watching have noticed and those of

00:04:04.780 you listening might not have we started off with a moment of silence for member melinda harris who

00:04:11.980 passed away on may the 29th after a long battle with cancer she will be missed and remembered

00:04:20.860 and melinda um

00:04:26.940 so not to not start on a somber note but it is really important to remember

00:04:32.860 remember our afa family when they pass beyond the veil and you know acknowledge that past

00:04:39.900 um other things for the top of program though

00:04:43.260 So, Midsummer's coming up. Midsummer is one of the high points of the year. It has always

00:04:54.560 been something that is highly celebrated by the Auschew Folk Assembly. For quite a number

00:05:02.600 of years, it was the big national event. Now it is celebrated at all of our Hoffs on, Nick

00:05:12.920 just put it up there, but I'm missing the date on it. It looks like 20th of this month at all of

00:05:18.780 the Hoffs. And particularly, it is the signature event at Odenshoff. So that's going to be at

00:05:27.120 Odenshoff from the 19th to the 21st in Brownsville, California, if you can make it. But if you can't,

00:05:33.460 your nearest Hoff is the next best thing. We'd love to see you guys there. I will be going back

00:05:39.920 out to Odin's Hof to celebrate Midsummer. So join me if you can. I'd love to meet you or

00:05:48.560 reacquaint myself if it's been a little while since I've seen you.

00:05:54.720 Other news and things for the top of the program. As you guys may have noticed,

00:05:59.360 this is a new time for us. It is my hope that this will make it a little bit easier for a number of

00:06:07.680 people involved and that this will allow, open us up to a little bit different audience

00:06:14.220 and maybe hasn't been able to enjoy this live or a number of our audience that maybe pops

00:06:19.220 in for a little bit but can't stay the whole time.

00:06:22.080 So we'll see how it goes, I hope it goes well, but this is the new time going forward.

00:06:31.000 So adjusting to this new time is Speckinger's Fawn.

00:06:35.800 So he will join us here in a little bit when he is able.

00:06:44.160 As kind of an update on a few things, you guys have been super generous.

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00:07:32.020 We'll get you all the different little links there for stuff you can contribute to if you would like to and if you're an ape.

00:07:42.320 Also, some top of the show things.

00:07:45.760 Stephen in Japan has donated $15 to us, $20 towards paying off Frasehoff and $5 towards

00:07:55.860 the Pavilion. Thank you, Stephen. You're a regular donor on this program. Another regular

00:08:01.200 donor is Gilbert Page. Gilbert, you are fantastic. We appreciate you. $150 towards paying off

00:08:08.860 phrase off thank you so much um speaking of phrase hoff how are we coming on that

00:08:18.700 coming fantastic on that i've only had it since december and we are 41.4 of the way paid off

00:08:27.180 that is spectacular um we're doing great on that uh should have told you the number on the pavilion

00:08:35.980 but it looks like $99 per member would get us phrase off all the way paid off today.

00:08:42.740 So that's tremendous progress.

00:08:44.980 Again, thank you to everybody who has donated and who continues to donate regularly.

00:08:49.500 Regularly.

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00:08:58.480 Contemplating where to go because I know Svon will be here very shortly,

00:09:01.700 and I don't want to get too deep into the woods until he is here.

00:09:08.600 So I am looking at a couple things.

00:09:13.060 We have deep questions, so we do not have any low-hanging fruit questions

00:09:18.500 off the top of the broadcast to kind of get things started.

00:09:22.300 So, I am looking at where we left off the last time.

00:09:32.980 I believe we left off after the building of the wall around Ausgarth.

00:09:46.400 so i think that i will take right into the text um but first so everybody can follow along

00:09:57.480 we are in the gilfaginning um if you look at thelispow.org that's where swan and i are going

00:10:06.440 to be reading from um welcome to use whatever translation you have handy that's just the one

00:10:12.340 that's been our go-to, if you want to follow along.

00:10:16.500 And we are on section 43, for anybody getting into it.

00:10:25.840 All right, so going right in, 43.

00:10:30.000 Of Scyth Blathmer, then said Gangleri,

00:10:35.780 what is to be said of Scyth Blathmer?

00:10:38.460 That which is the best of ships, is there no ship equally great?

00:10:45.460 Hauer replied, Skiftblathner is the best of ships, and made with most skill of craftsmanship.

00:10:53.460 But Naglfar is the largest ship, Musfil has it.

00:11:00.460 dwarves, sons of Ivaldi, made Skiff Blathner and gave the ship to Freyr. It is so great that all

00:11:09.820 the Aesir may man it, with their weapons and armaments, and it has a favoring wind as soon 0.95

00:11:18.220 as the sail is hoisted. With ever so it is bound, but when there is no occasion for going to sea in

00:11:29.100 it it is made of so many things and with so much cunning that it then can be folded together like

00:11:35.420 a napkin and kept in one's pouch so this is one of the many treasures of the iser that is

00:11:50.060 magical weapons sounds funny but there's a number of different uh treasures

00:11:54.860 that our gods get of Dwarven craftsmanship

00:11:59.200 that are miraculous and grand to behold.

00:12:03.700 And this is certainly one of those.

00:12:08.000 Svon has joined us.

00:12:10.480 Welcome.

00:12:20.860 Svon is searching for something desperately.

00:12:23.000 Yes, and I had to mute it because there is still very much activity going on here at this hour of the day.

00:12:34.380 Just trying to keep noise control.

00:12:41.640 Yes, I have thrown a wrench in the works for some folks by moving our time, and I appreciate everybody being accommodating of that.

00:12:51.140 I appreciate the Herald household accommodating Army time.

00:12:58.700 I'm still a little off as to where we are at, so I was trying to find out.

00:13:03.780 We're at Section 44, because I just read 43.

00:13:10.840 Excellent. I was on the right page.

00:13:15.200 um we have good questions tonight we have deep questions tonight

00:13:21.800 hopefully we will get a few more as the night progresses um

00:13:27.340 awesome um walter i'm glad you joined us i'm glad you've been able to

00:13:37.120 i don't know if it's because of the time change or what but i'm glad you're able to be on the

00:13:42.640 show live tonight, and I appreciate you being a stalwart audience member and follower of

00:13:50.080 the show and of the AFA, so glad to have you in the chat tonight.

00:13:59.680 Oh, Leroy, it is not Minecraft music.

00:14:04.300 it is some kind of like soothing cats doing stuff noise that my wife had on in the background um

00:14:16.540 i didn't realize y'all could hear that i'll probably remedy remedy that at some point here

00:14:24.860 but yeah so um

00:14:26.060 yeah we just talked about phrase ship and uh now swan if you would like to take us in 244

00:14:37.900 thor went on his journey to the home of uthgarve

00:14:44.460 yeah i think at this point too as we go later on into the um story there is a shift of there's

00:14:54.300 instead of so much say point to question it becomes like poetic frame poetic frame poetic

00:15:07.040 frame as it goes and so this part here is really aimed at the the scald um but you'll notice that

00:15:18.820 the sections are much heavier because of that. There's not a question and answer and then excerpt

00:15:28.520 and then question, answer, excerpt. Instead, it just simply goes into creating infrastructure.

00:15:36.200 Um, and the infrastructure is of course, um, uh, you know, the mythologically it is as it is, but when you look at it, say cosmically, or when you look at it as a perhaps allegoric for, uh, the form of power and movement.

00:16:01.320 We were talking about this just the other day about how there are so many connections to the gods in relation to light, whether it's mentioned through fire, gold, or beaming, radiance, and from Edwin's apples.

00:16:22.800 The concept of the heavenly realm, the cosmic order built on everlasting light, and as opposed to say natural law and cyclical natures of the middle world involving earthly elements, water, and even time, death, life, all of those cycles.

00:16:47.560 um what you end up having is there's no doubt in my mind why say for instance the bridge that

00:16:58.460 leads to heaven is thinner than the bridge that leads to the land of the dead and it is a rainbow

00:17:04.720 it's prismatic it's um uh its access is limited and so you can see that and and have to understand

00:17:16.520 these stories are coming to us from the gods. They're not from people. They've been written

00:17:26.140 down by people. They've been written down by people very far along in the stories,

00:17:33.060 but the perennial truths remain constant, whereas the form and shape or casting on the outside can

00:17:41.200 be you know in this case particularly is built around nordic late nordic um poetic rules so

00:17:51.400 it's and it's spoken about in the stories that kvasir comes and walks amongst men and teaches

00:18:00.280 them about the gods and teaches them about things and then we see it again with lord heimdall

00:18:07.140 numerous times and including King Galfi. So there's these moments where even though it's

00:18:13.400 not explicitly said that these are the prophets of the gods, what is happening is there's this

00:18:21.960 layering of addition. And so as the mythos is spoken about, we need to change our perspective

00:18:32.160 and consider the understanding of it is that a lot of the movement of the gods,

00:18:37.740 why the gods are in the upper realm, why there is a middle realm,

00:18:42.200 why there is a lower realm, and what that significance means.

00:18:47.320 All of this symbolic language, this allegoric language, has purpose.

00:18:52.560 And the light of the gods and the fact that the rainbow or the prism

00:18:58.940 being a symbol as a gate

00:19:02.240 between the heavenly realm and the earthly realm

00:19:04.040 I don't think was accidental at all.

00:19:07.140 Did our ancestors fully go into even that?

00:19:12.360 No, because as our evolution of the truth

00:19:15.160 expands through time,

00:19:16.800 I mean, our ancestors are going to know more than we will.

00:19:20.700 And that's a good thing.

00:19:23.140 So I want to point out, again, and reiterate,

00:19:26.620 um this particular piece is so fundamental and i i don't know i hesitate to make big you know

00:19:42.860 sweeping ultimatum kind of statements but

00:19:49.020 if this was the only piece of lore that remained to us

00:19:52.780 us. This gives us something to build from. We are blessed that it's not the only piece

00:19:59.600 by far, but this is a very intentionally encapsulated by snoring. This is the basics of the elder

00:20:10.680 faith. This is what my ancestors believed. These are the essentials and he is putting

00:20:18.120 them all in one piece laid out in a poetic framework of this discussion between you know

00:20:28.200 high equally high and third high and guilty but it's meant for you and i and any of his contemporaries

00:20:39.720 or also any of the courts of europe to know this is what also true is this is what the beliefs and

00:20:48.760 the myths are these are the things that are valuable it's worth noting and factoring in

00:20:57.480 what of our stories are included and what of our stories aren't included what things were thought

00:21:04.680 to be the most important things to make mention of and to emphasize and what things may not have been

00:21:12.200 this isn't there's a certain amount of discretion that needs to be put especially to um the elder

00:21:20.520 etta that simender uh compiled for us that has a wide array of things some are intended as comedies

00:21:30.040 some are intended as you know poetic flexing some are very overtly scriptural some are you know

00:21:45.400 life lessons like the album some like the blue spell are just overtly religious things that's

00:21:52.520 the below spouse probably the closest in that piece to the guilt beginning um

00:22:02.200 but yeah you have a wide variety of poems in um in that you know the corpus of our lore you have

00:22:09.640 things that are written for a number of reasons this one is very specifically written to say

00:22:13.960 these this is what also true are believed this is the understanding of the world our ancestors

00:22:20.920 place in it and their relationship to their gods and who those gods were that's why we're spending

00:22:27.640 so much time on it but one of many reasons fun and i get distracted on the rabbit trails of other

00:22:32.760 interesting things to discuss but it is that fundamental to the building of our faith

00:22:39.960 well whenever you're ready if you could take us into 44.

00:22:42.920 i was going to say the reason why i brought it up is because the reductionist view that somebody

00:22:52.640 uh in the gothar chat i think it was uh speckinger east said you know that's a reductionist view of

00:22:58.300 things people try to do a reduction you actually believe your gods carry a hammer you actually

00:23:03.260 believe that your gods ride around on a ship that's the reason why i brought this up was

00:23:07.740 there's so much to mythos that is beyond and it it never has the pretentiousness of lying to your

00:23:17.020 face and saying that something written down by men is you know infallible and has um is

00:23:27.780 the word of the gods completely and cannot be questioned. That sense of disingenuineness is

00:23:38.060 sometimes, I think, really ridiculous, if you think about it. But instead, our stories are

00:23:46.120 these everlasting perennial truths wrapped in all the things that you had said.

00:23:53.000 um and there there is a codex if you will that i think i truly believe reaches forward and outward

00:24:04.700 into the future even by of course by looking backwards we can look into the past and project

00:24:10.640 the flight of things and i was looking uh skidh blavnir most people don't really even know what

00:24:17.840 that is skid survives in our english language with the word ski and it it's a sliver of wood

00:24:25.180 and blabner of course is a blade so it's it's blades of wood or um it could be kind of like

00:24:33.640 blades of grass which i think is also relatively fitting um with lord frere but the um the idea

00:24:44.120 of it is what does the ship represent the idea of the vehicle you know when we um and and we get a

00:24:52.200 lot of reductionist ideas oh you actually believe this but then they're very very quick to say oh

00:24:57.160 their their god sits in a throne or you have to pass through a gate or uh you there are the levels

00:25:04.280 or seals or there's chariots in the sky. It is always very easy to reduce and criticize.

00:25:15.840 And I think that people should understand that our faith is built on multiple levels and we're

00:25:22.780 okay with it. We're comfortable with it. Other religions really aren't. They start to conflict

00:25:29.260 with each other the moment you start to point them out. Our gods and the stories that we have

00:25:35.180 of them are as much tangible as the ship, as it is the vehicle or mode of transport, the way upon

00:25:44.600 which divine beings moving through uniformly together in tandem as the gods are. Anytime that

00:25:56.880 the gods are are brought forth together in a story like on a ship and inversely the chaotic

00:26:05.360 forms in neo-fadi is that there is this grand movement of divine beings working together

00:26:13.940 because we have to consider what the ship represented to the audience and what that

00:26:18.860 would entail so that's the beauty of mythos is it's just layers on top of layers that's all i

00:26:26.240 wanted to that's why i brought it up um well one just interesting point of connectivity the idea

00:26:30.980 of the um ski blade being something you traverse water like it cuts through the waves and you're

00:26:37.620 able to traverse the waters on it's reminiscent to me of uler's magic bone yes uh saxogrammaticus

00:26:46.160 yeah it was you know thought that uler has a magic bone that he gets on and like

00:26:53.220 snowboards across the ocean with um but it also it connects to that idea of the ski or the you

00:27:03.740 know that gliding if you've ever been skiing and seeing you know how that works or felt how that

00:27:11.840 works it i don't know the imagery connects in a in a nice way of how that glides and cuts through

00:27:18.740 smoothly it's one of the cool things about this ship is it always has a fair wind for wherever

00:27:24.420 you're trying to go with it yeah the uh the idea to the old norse what that could mean and

00:27:32.200 and in essence the the favorable uh nature of the cosmos lending itself to all of the holy gods upon

00:27:42.080 a vehicle in which they are working together and it doesn't have to be a physical vehicle it's it's

00:27:47.920 the unity of the gods and it is given to the prince of the icier he is the youthful lord who

00:27:57.120 kind of invigorates um the gods especially after the loss of baldur there's a lot of poetic sense

00:28:06.160 in there of this connectivity uh you know lordo then losing his son all of these things these

00:28:15.360 allegoric things don't mean that they're lesser it means that they're just more powerful but not

00:28:20.800 overtly written and we have to kind of look at the stories about when the gods move from here

00:28:26.560 to here or when they're all together on a ship or when they're uh apart or when they go into

00:28:33.280 mountains or up into this these are all deeply powerful cosmic metaphorical allegories um

00:28:43.520 anyways i was getting on that rant but i just wanted to kind of because i jumped in right as

00:28:48.320 you were speaking about it and i was like i want to address that it's important that um we don't

00:28:54.160 get caught up in reductionist arguments from people who try to argue and say oh if this is

00:29:00.320 the god of lightning then who's the god of rubber bands and it's like they have no concept that the

00:29:06.640 gods are uh presiding over and have dominion of primordial forces on top of any other things

00:29:14.800 while we're while we're in this it kind of matches up with a question and some things

00:29:20.000 that we're going with um one question from sherwood how important is the specific content

00:29:26.800 of the myth in terms of the esoteric or uh contemplative lessons slash truth contained

00:29:33.200 myth so to kind of further flesh out some stuff spawns talking about the

00:29:46.160 i don't know the drive by twitter critic is frustrating because they say irritating things

00:29:53.360 a lot of the time they say irritating things on purpose to rage bait you as the kids would say um

00:30:00.640 and the arguments disingenuous. So I've said this a number of times, but

00:30:08.000 our ancestors weren't stupid. Their brain capacity at this stage in their development 0.92

00:30:16.760 is just as big as ours. They're just as clever, as smart as we are.

00:30:24.420 they are knowledgeable in different ways they certainly don't have access to the same like

00:30:33.520 breadth of knowledge that we have they have an increased depth of knowledge in a lot of really

00:30:39.200 specific areas but it is rare in the history of the world that religion is meant literally in that

00:30:50.400 sense. Myths are symbols, and they're symbolic to paint a picture and to help us to understand

00:31:01.180 the gods, the cosmos, and our existence in it, and our relationship to the gods.

00:31:10.040 That's why when you see them at different times and different places displayed or depicted

00:31:15.300 visually they look like the contemporaries of those people because it makes it make sense

00:31:23.220 um to try to force metaphysical truth to conform to i don't know vocabulary you'll you'll hear me

00:31:34.420 on here all the time tripping over my words trying to find the right way to express a metaphysical

00:31:41.620 concept in a um mundane way or a way that's understood by our mundane vocabulary it's very

00:31:49.460 challenging to do certainly it's challenging for ancestors i think that being an honest broker and

00:31:57.300 reading our myth some things are obvious when they're meant to be jokes or when they're meant

00:32:02.900 to be very very serious or when they're meant to be to tell you a bigger truth it's a lot of the

00:32:12.180 time a lot easier to understand than the overly analytical or the critic wants them because

00:32:22.100 some people who are coming at it honestly come from religious traditions where

00:32:26.260 no

00:32:28.280 Allah wrote this down 1.00

00:32:30.460 through Muhammad in a cave 0.96

00:32:32.220 and if you say otherwise you die 0.98

00:32:34.200 or no this is

00:32:36.420 divinely given to the

00:32:38.380 prophets or Moses

00:32:39.960 or you know

00:32:42.140 the scribes of the New Testament

00:32:44.560 and if you don't

00:32:46.420 trust every letter

00:32:48.400 of it you die

00:32:50.380 like the consequence

00:32:52.200 it has been

00:32:53.180 literally carved in blood

00:32:55.900 into our people that religious text is inviolably, you know, every word of it is literal truth

00:33:04.720 instead of being symbolically telling you truth. So our law is absolutely true. It is not meant

00:33:12.580 to be literally true. It is meant to be illustrative of truth and to bring you to a

00:33:17.860 closer understanding of truth. And so I think that when you look at the law and especially

00:33:24.940 when you pair it with a deeper understanding of the culture it was pinned in, then you

00:33:31.960 understand the truths that were conveyed within that lore in a much deeper way than you would

00:33:40.580 otherwise. So the symbols and the specific content is extremely important because it

00:33:46.980 paints a picture and artists notice art conveys meaning in a way that's very different than

00:34:04.800 a recipe or a chronicle or a, I don't know, a user's manual for an item.

00:34:14.320 can explain things very scientifically or very exactly in terms of words but you miss a dimensionality

00:34:24.400 that art bypasses art conveys a myriad of things with other senses besides just

00:34:36.400 i'm trying to think of a good example and see right now i know exactly what i'm trying to

00:34:43.640 communicate but finding the precise words for it are difficult how much more so in the greater

00:34:50.060 cosmic truths that the human mind isn't well equipped to comprehend um but yeah you have

00:34:58.640 emotions engaged in art through expression and color how a piece makes you feel more than just

00:35:05.380 the pieces of the picture but how it's drawn the lighting all of the flavor all of the extra pieces

00:35:12.180 to it add layers and convey things so much of what we pick up um in communication is non-verbal

00:35:20.500 there's some estimate by experts that like 80 of communication is non-verbal i don't know how

00:35:27.300 exact that 80 is but i think we all know enough to know that a really big part of communication

00:35:34.100 is non-verbal the imagery that's painted of our gods through these stories teaches us

00:35:41.860 about their personality it teaches us about the nature of who they are and it teaches us that in

00:35:52.020 a way that is very um visceral in the soul of our folk it speaks to us still today the way this is

00:36:01.940 is portrayed in these sagas and the eddas speaks to us now and not that there's not room for more

00:36:10.860 modern interpretation of you know the imagery and the art but when our people see the viking age

00:36:19.080 imagery it still speaks to us very powerfully and i think there's i think something very

00:36:26.220 profound is captured in that and is celebrated in this particular art form but again i think a fair

00:36:33.500 a fair assessment you can tell when things are meant to be very serious depictions of mythos

00:36:43.040 when they're you know riffs on those themes with common imagery that we learn from you can learn

00:36:49.520 from all of it but i think it's i think when you read our lord it becomes self-evident the things

00:36:58.560 that are meant to be well how literal each of the things is kind of meant to be and the other thing

00:37:05.920 that i do think uh that you mentioned within the question or that's kind of relevant within the

00:37:10.240 question is our lore is also layered there is a very i don't know there's a very special

00:37:19.360 craft done in shaping our war and i think a lot of that is divinely encoded i think that inspiration

00:37:26.720 sometimes the skull would write things that they may not understand why but they're inspired to do

00:37:34.880 so so they put it in and as our folk learn more it adds an extra dimensionality and an extra layer

00:37:42.960 to the lore that clicks with modern scientific understanding that clicks with you know a new

00:37:51.120 revelation that you might have that maybe the author wasn't wasn't aware of but that whiff of

00:37:57.840 inspiration that made it to them from on high comes down to us with a very layered understanding

00:38:04.720 the mythos so if you read all of our lore in an explicitly literal sense that's awesome for little

00:38:13.840 kids that's awesome for you know folks that might not be that introspective and just want to look at

00:38:22.720 it on that level and you may not you don't have to reconcile it with a bunch of deeper analytics

00:38:31.360 if you don't want to but if you do and you want to ponder it in a different way it lends itself

00:38:38.320 to those things so you can get different truths from our lore at different levels of your own

00:38:45.920 wisdom and your own development all of it being valuable and all of it building a very rich

00:38:52.400 tapestry, aren't they?

00:38:56.180 Swan, do you have anything to add on that?

00:38:57.860 Yeah, one of the things, and it's so relevant to now, everything that you're saying behind

00:39:04.960 the scenes, I was just thinking, one of the, for the longest time, Ausatru was generally

00:39:13.860 seen or lauded at, or the comment shot from the hip was, oh, you know, organized religion,

00:39:19.400 and uh but we have gotten to a point where before it was very disorganized with perhaps say some

00:39:29.240 figureheads uh writing books and some of the books were written on tangible academic knowledge

00:39:37.560 some were written completely i i don't even know where half some of that comes from um for some

00:39:44.680 folks um ed fitch is like one i'm talking about there um but what they don't realize from say

00:39:54.360 looking at the afa is that we are at a unique point where we have some of the greatest minds

00:40:03.160 and some of the greatest spiritual thinkers of ausa true coming together under leadership

00:40:10.520 organized by leadership to do and go a direction there's this has never been done before there

00:40:18.120 is a we see this like the same wind with herman of the cheruski you got all these badass warriors

00:40:24.520 in all these different tribes and they can't figure their crap out because they're fighting

00:40:28.840 each other or they're going for their own inclinations and then all of a sudden there's 0.94

00:40:33.500 figure that comes in aligns and shows a projected path and then all of a sudden these great warriors

00:40:45.020 are now functioning they're part of a a greater thing and we're at that point right now i think

00:40:51.740 that one of the big reasons why and we we've discussed in keeping the tightness of the true

00:40:57.740 Ulamau as it is, is because we're still at the stage of, we have people who've been practicing

00:41:07.600 Ausatru for years, are, and, you know, all the way back to Founder MacNallan, but getting

00:41:17.760 together and discussing the nature, the movement of mythos, what is the connectivity between Thor

00:41:27.520 and Sif and Thrudr in relation to lightening the fields and ale, those and all in relation to the

00:41:37.300 free man farming societal unit. And then all of a sudden this becomes a discussion and the

00:41:44.340 discussion is kind of hashed out. And it's so invigorating and beautiful to see. And that's,

00:41:51.260 I think one of the strengths is that as we bring together and we have leadership, then we have priestly motivators, people doing things within the priest caste, if you will.

00:42:08.460 But with full intention of moving everything forward, moving everyone forward, keeping things together, this is a super exciting time.

00:42:19.920 And when we talk about things like this, when we talk about mythos and the way that we perceive it, we are discussing, working these things.

00:42:30.900 There are folks who have been in our search for very long periods of time and they might feel settled.

00:42:36.340 I was one of them. I felt very settled in my views.

00:42:39.780 And then I come in and I'm suddenly reignited by thoughts from other priests that are doing, and priestesses that are projecting these ideas, creating these constructions of frameworks.

00:42:57.920 And so we begin to, the faith is alive again.

00:43:03.160 Now, the gods never left us.

00:43:05.080 The gods will never leave us.

00:43:06.400 I think during the time when Christianity was just kind of the prominence of maybe societal tradition, the gods are in our blood, they remain, they may show up under different names, and so on, but they never left.

00:43:22.720 But the idea is that we are now refocused back. We're not looking outside of ourselves. We're not looking at traditions from India. We're not looking at perhaps adjacent traditions in Slavic or in Hellenic.

00:43:40.760 but no, we're looking at things from who we are. And that is huge. And so, as you had said,

00:43:50.700 some of the revelations that we come across isn't to degrade our ancestors, but to look at the idea

00:43:58.080 that if the gods pass down the stories to our people and it has changed with us, but yet the

00:44:05.300 truths go even beyond time. That is a very interesting thing. I always bring it up about

00:44:11.780 the horses of the sun and the two horses of the earth and the one horse of the moon.

00:44:18.140 And the fact that out of those three heavenly bodies, only the moon doesn't have its own

00:44:24.520 actual like rotational pull or rotation. And it's defined by the earth or, you know,

00:44:34.940 we were talking about a Thorsoth with Thor and iron glove and iron gripper and the belt and the

00:44:42.540 iron rod in the belt and the hammer as a switch and you have an electromagnet or the iron shifting

00:44:50.560 core in the center of the earth. And we talk about all of these things and we're not trying

00:44:54.580 to degrade the mythos. We're just suddenly the mythic power of the stories starts to extend

00:45:02.740 into everything. And that's where the gods come to life for us. Our recognition of them

00:45:13.240 suddenly becomes less contemplative and more integrated into everything. So I think that's

00:45:21.900 why it's important we consider as we're talking about the boats and the hammers and the treasures

00:45:28.120 of the gods they're all extremely important there's a lot of layers to them the other things

00:45:32.920 are just to talk about immense divine things in a way that gets something visceral

00:45:41.720 we will get to the lord in just a second but i thought well no because i thought of it

00:45:46.360 while we were doing this i think it is the example and i can't read it without singing

00:45:52.520 along just because it's like saying your abcs i can't speak them i have to sing the abc song

00:45:58.120 But as the as the scald Randy Travis said, my love is deeper than the holler, stronger than the river, higher than the pine trees growing tall upon the hills.

00:46:09.400 My love is purer than the snowflakes, the fall and late December, and honest as the robin on the springtime window of silver, and longer than the song of the whippling.

00:46:18.680 um just saying to poetically make something make sense you take images that make sense to the

00:46:29.360 audience well how big is it well it's bigger than this thing that we know well how strong is it

00:46:36.020 it's stronger than this thing we know is immensely powerful okay well you know how how everlasting is

00:46:44.360 what lasts longer than this finding those benchmarks of commonality

00:46:51.160 that's the story of a lot of how that law comes to us

00:46:55.320 but speaking of lore spawn will you take us into section 44 please

00:47:01.000 i love this this is great uh

00:47:05.880 okay 44. thor uh went on his journey to the home of ut garda loki

00:47:14.360 in Jotunheim. Then spake Gangleri, a good ship is Skidbladnir, but very great magic must have

00:47:26.420 been used upon it before it got to be so fashioned. Has Thor never experienced such a thing that he

00:47:36.540 has found in his path somewhat so mighty or so powerful that it has overmatched him through

00:47:43.260 strength or magic? Then said Haur, few men, I wean, are able to tell of this. Yet many a thing

00:47:54.060 has seemed to him hard to overcome. Though there may have been something so powerful or so strong

00:48:03.020 that Thor might have succeeded in winning that victory, yet it is not necessary to speak of it.

00:48:09.780 Because there are many examples to prove, and because all are bound to believe, very key line there, that Thor is the mightiest.

00:48:24.620 then said gang leary it seems to me that i must have asked you touching this matter what what no

00:48:35.180 one is able to tell of what is the one thing that that they are not to speak of then spoke even how

00:48:43.900 just as high we have heard say concerning some matters which seem so incredible but here sits

00:48:54.180 one near at hand who will know how to tell the true tidings of this therefore thou must believe

00:49:03.600 that we will not lie for the first time now who never lied before and ganglary says

00:49:10.580 here will i stand and listen if any answer is so forthcoming to this word but otherwise i

00:49:17.600 pronounce you please overcome this if you cannot tell me that which i ask you

00:49:24.400 then spoke three the third now it is evident that he is resolved to know this matter

00:49:33.680 though it seemed not to us a pleasant thing to tell so they're deliberating between each other

00:49:40.540 and he wants to know and keeps pressing it so we will go forward maintaining our truthfulness

00:49:46.220 Though it seemed not to us a pleasant thing to tell, this is the beginning of the tale of Åkothor, driving Thor, and driving a chariot.

00:49:59.940 So Okothor drove forth with his he goats and chariot, and with him, that house called Loki.

00:50:09.080 Now, you might wonder why, because at that time, he was aligned with the gods.

00:50:17.160 So that's a very important factor to know, is that the Jotans and, say, the Alvar, they're not contrarian beings by existing.

00:50:31.360 They are brought in, and that's what makes them house.

00:50:35.960 They are aligned, but also accepted.

00:50:38.860 And so he was accepted at this time.

00:50:41.840 They came at evening to a husband's man's house.

00:50:46.060 I did a wedding two weeks ago, and we spoke about the nature of the name husband or housebound, and it doesn't mean that you are tied to a house in the sense of some sort of servitude.

00:51:03.280 It's that you're tied to a house in responsibility and in oaths.

00:51:07.560 So, he came to a husbandman's house, and there they received a night's lodging.

00:51:16.140 About evening, Thor took his he-goats and slaughtered them both.

00:51:21.740 After that, they were flayed and born to the cauldron.

00:51:26.620 When the cooking was done, then Thor and his companion sat down to supper.

00:51:31.240 Thor invited to meet with him, the husband and his wife, and their children.

00:51:38.840 The husbandman's son was called Hjalfi, and the daughter Roskva.

00:51:46.800 Now bear in mind, too, the word meal and meat actually have the same origin.

00:51:53.480 and that was something we were I was talking to my children about as my youngest son is starting

00:52:01.160 to delve into English as a schooling and meal and meat have origins in the same place instead of the

00:52:12.620 general germanic flesh or fleisch uh for what we call meat today um so he invites the uh owner of

00:52:25.180 the the freeman that owns the farm and his wife and their children and then thor laid the goat

00:52:32.780 hides just further away from the fire and said to the husbandmen and his servants that they should

00:52:40.040 cast all the bones of the goats upon the hive. Thealfi, the husbandman's son, was holding a

00:52:48.300 thigh bone of one of the goats, and he split it with his knife, and he broke it in so that he

00:52:55.120 could eat the marrow. Now, one little thing of context, he spoke to them and said, do not break

00:53:02.640 any bones and it was specifically loki who instigated this and that's kind of again glossed

00:53:11.420 over here because of for condensement but it again it shows a turning away from alignment

00:53:19.620 and it's it's one of the many of the stories where he turns away from alignment perhaps he gets back

00:53:28.840 with with deed or with items but then does it again consistently and so thor tarried there

00:53:38.600 overnight he stayed and in the interval before the day rose up and he clothed clothed himself

00:53:45.080 he took the hammer mjolnir swung it up and hallowed the goat hides straight away the he goats

00:53:53.440 rose up, and then one of them was lame in the hind leg. Thor discovered this and declared

00:54:00.120 that the husbandman or his household could not have dealt wisely with the bones of the goat.

00:54:07.760 He knew that the thigh bone had been deliberately broken. There is no need to make a long story of

00:54:14.780 it. All may know how frightened the husbandman must have been when he saw Thor let his brows

00:54:22.680 sink down before his eyes, but when he looked at the eyes, then it seemed to him that he must

00:54:31.180 fall down before their glances alone. He threw himself down. Thor clenched his hands on the

00:54:40.080 hammer shaft so that the knuckles whitened, and the husbandmen and all of his household did

00:54:46.560 what was expected. They cried out lustily and prayed for peace, offered in recompense all that

00:54:54.620 they had. But when he saw the terror in them, then the fury departed from him, and he became appeased

00:55:03.780 and took of them an atonement. He said that the children would travel with him, Thielvi and Rostva,

00:55:10.380 who then became his bond servants, and they follow him ever since.

00:55:17.240 And this has some hidden and deep layered meanings about the idea of piety in the face,

00:55:27.340 in particular with the Lord that is connected to heaven and earth.

00:55:32.200 He is very intimately tied to the middle world. 0.51

00:55:35.760 And, again, anybody who would be so foolish as to think that they could go out into a thunderstorm carrying a metal rod and thinking that they won't be struck is because power and dominion over primordial forces,

00:55:57.360 particularly in the control of such things as creating a balance between polarics that is 0.92

00:56:05.360 lightning thunder and many other things um all are equal in the possibility of that um and that's

00:56:15.140 one of the points that's being made here also again the the piety now this piety is done in

00:56:22.040 fear, but once it is seen by Lord Thor, his anger departs him because he knows not that this isn't

00:56:32.000 the reason why anyone should be pious to him. So I find all of that very interesting. The bonds

00:56:39.420 servants is an understanding to where, again, paying off a debt in ancient times could involve

00:56:48.440 one of your children goes to help a household until they're old enough to have their own things

00:56:55.500 and they could be freed sometimes they would even be given gifts as kind of a foster son but it

00:57:02.460 wasn't done through treaty it was done through having to pay off a debt it's just a common thing

00:57:08.460 of ancient times. So it sets up the point of the story of Thor going to Jotunheim. And it

00:57:24.200 starts with him traveling over Midgard and staying a night in a free man's house,

00:57:35.140 which again anytime that the gods come to the middle world and reside in the home

00:57:42.220 there's much more symbolic nature going on here same with Heimdallur when he comes to great

00:57:49.220 grandfather and great grandmother and grandmother and grandfather and then father and mother's

00:57:55.460 homes each time the folk progress quite literally like in an evolutionary sense so and he's invited

00:58:04.500 into the home and he is invited to stay between them or in reality it's the faith of it's the 0.76

00:58:14.180 the actual religiousness uh that is brought into the home that makes them better

00:58:20.880 and so in this case there is food being eaten and there's the kind of overarching story of

00:58:30.160 the the bone being cracked and um it's just i i love all of this you can read it in so many

00:58:39.220 different ways but our ancestors were definitely relating to this um in a very straightforward

00:58:46.980 like guest rules or if the guest is bringing food because you're so uh you're not well off

00:58:54.160 And yet, because you brought this guest in, they have fed you. And then the hallowing of the goats is often pointed to about the idea of hallowing in our faith.

00:59:10.260 we hallow in the form of uh the hammer the sign of the hammer sometimes that could be a fee fought

00:59:17.620 sometimes that could be a uh a kind of literal drawing of a hammer um and why uh oftentimes

00:59:26.820 not all times but oftentimes the four names of thor are invoked um but it's the point of

00:59:33.140 of it is the sanctity of it. And Lord Thor doing that is another kind of capsule showing

00:59:43.700 traditions that have been passed down, that our ancestors would hallow things with the sign of

00:59:52.440 the hammer. And it's mentioned even by Christians who were attending certain events that this was

00:59:58.780 done. So this is just another way in which mythos like a rope has many bands. And one of them is to

01:00:06.680 keep cultural continuity, uh, continuancy with traditions and things like that, even though when

01:00:13.780 it might seem irrelevant for the gods to do it, or perhaps they're being you hammerized, but it's

01:00:20.340 just enough so that it's both fantastical and entertaining, but sharing something. So we move

01:00:28.580 on to 45. And this is of the dealings of Thor and Skrymir. This is a continuation of the first part.

01:00:38.400 So now Thor has Thjallvi and Roskva and he has Loki and he continues his travel. He has come

01:00:47.440 down from the heavenly realm into Midgard, but decided to stop before fully going eastward

01:00:55.180 over and beyond into the realm of the Jotnar. And so there is this, the travel.

01:01:04.420 Finally, they move that morning on. So thereupon, he left his goats behind as one was lame.

01:01:16.120 And they moved eastward towards Jotunheim and clear to the sea. And then he went out over the

01:01:23.440 that deep one. But when he came to land, he went up, and Loki and Thielvi and Roskva with him.

01:01:31.940 Then, when he had walked a little while, there stood before them a great forest.

01:01:39.400 So here we have an interesting point. The conceptualization by the Norsemen of the Eastern

01:01:48.500 Sea, knowing of the Mediterranean, the speculation is, is it the Black Sea? Is it the Caspian Sea?

01:01:56.860 Or is it simply, again, the purpose of a sea being that mythical liminal space between Midgard

01:02:07.220 and the land beyond? And we see this even in Tolkien and other works of fiction about kings

01:02:17.380 and and uh alvat or elves going beyond off to the edges these these liminal spaces are

01:02:25.660 uh made finite just for us to comprehend them but he goes across and then comes across a great

01:02:37.100 markland uh mark meaning like a forest and there he goes they walked a little while and there they

01:02:46.960 before them a great forest, they walked all that day until the dark. Thielvi was swiftest of foot

01:02:55.400 of all men, and he bore over his shoulder Thor's bag. But there was nothing good for food. As soon

01:03:03.080 as it had become dark, they sought themselves shelter for the night. And luckily, they found

01:03:08.760 before them a certain hall, a very great hall. There was a door in the end of equal width as

01:03:16.460 the actual hall so it wasn't just small it was the whole side of the hall wherein they took up

01:03:23.240 quarters for the night but about midnight there came a great earthquake the earth rocked underneath

01:03:30.520 them exceedingly and the house trembled then Thor rose up called to his companions and they explored

01:03:38.140 farther and found that the middle of the hall a side chamber on the right hand and they went

01:03:45.460 thither. Thor sat down in the doorway, but the others were farther in from him and they were

01:03:52.180 afraid. Thor gripped his hammer and thought to defend himself at the doorway. They heard a great

01:04:00.020 humming sound and a crashing sound. So the way it's described here is very interesting too

01:04:06.480 considering some of the other translations and stories of a cave versus a hall. But more

01:04:13.800 importantly, as his companions go deeper in to seek shelter, it is Thor who steps up to the

01:04:22.360 opening of the hall, ready to defend himself and his companions and not run away from this.

01:04:32.020 But when it drew near to dawn, it was then that Thor went out and saw a great man lying a little

01:04:39.920 away from him in the wood. And that man was not small. He slept and snored mightily. Then Thor

01:04:49.780 thought he could perceive what kind of noise it was, which they had heard during the night.

01:04:56.840 He girded himself with his belt of strength and his divine power began to wax. And on the instant

01:05:04.280 that the man awoke and rose up swiftly, and then, it is said for the first time, Thor's heart had

01:05:10.840 failed him. To strike him with the hammer, he asked him his name, and the man said his name was

01:05:20.540 Skrymir. But I have no need, he said, to ask thee of thy name. I know who thou art. You are

01:05:29.620 But what? What has thou dragged away my glove for?

01:05:37.620 So the pun of the joke just simply being they were resting the night in his glove.

01:05:44.420 And this adds on to the kind of trepidation of Lord Thor in this situation.

01:05:53.580 um now in the other version uh that i read where he struck the sleeping giant or sleeping man

01:06:02.300 in the end in the forest um but that he said oh there must be a fly on my forehead or there is a

01:06:09.260 an oak that uh uh acorn fell on my forehead so it kind of goes even into greater detail

01:06:17.820 about this but he simply says why did you drag away my glove

01:06:20.700 Then Skrymir stretched out his hand and he took up the glove, and at once Thor saw that it was that which they had taken for a haul during the night.

01:06:33.520 And as for the side chamber, it was not a side chamber, it was the thumb of the glove.

01:06:40.500 Skrymir asked whether Thor would have his company, and Thor assented to it.

01:06:46.420 Then Skrymir took and unloosened his provisions, wallet, as it is said, but his pouch, and made ready to eat his morning meal, and Thor and his fellows in another place.

01:07:00.280 Skrymir then proposed to them that they lay their supply of foods together, and Thor assented.

01:07:07.040 it. Then Skrimir bound up all of the food in one bag and laid it on his own back to carry.

01:07:15.220 But late in the evening, Skrimir found them a place, a night quarters to rest under a certain

01:07:21.560 great oak. And then Skrimir said to Thor that he would lay himself down to sleep. And do ye

01:07:30.160 take the provisions bag and make ready your own supper. Sorry, I got that wrong. This is

01:07:37.360 where that part comes in. So the idea that they're companions, but he's so much bigger.

01:07:47.720 He knows of Lord Thor, but he decides, okay, if you're having this time, we'll just put all of

01:07:52.900 our stuff together. And then by the end of the day, as they're traveling, he lays the food down

01:07:59.700 and says oh you just open up the bag i'm gonna go to bed you guys make uh make your own supper

01:08:07.280 and this is all laying groundwork for something so thereupon skrimir slept and snored hard and

01:08:17.960 thor took the provisions bag and set about to unloose it but such things must be told as will

01:08:24.540 seem incredible, he got no knot loosened and no thong end stirred. So as to be looser than it was

01:08:33.580 before, when he saw that his work might not avail, then he became very angered. He gripped the hammer

01:08:42.560 Mjolnir in both hands and he strode with great strides to a place where Skrimir lay and he 0.57

01:08:49.460 smote him in the head. Skrymir awoke and asked whether a leaf had fallen upon his head or whether

01:08:57.760 they had eaten and were they ready for bed. Thor replied that they had just then about to go to

01:09:06.460 sleep. Then they went under the oak. It must be told to thee that there was then no fearless

01:09:14.460 sleeping by midnight thor heard how screamer snored and slept fast so that it thundered in

01:09:22.040 the woods then he stood up and went to him shook his hammer so first it's the food he can't open

01:09:30.000 the bag but he doesn't want to admit that so he says no we're about to go to bed in the middle

01:09:34.920 of the night the snoring starts again this time so he goes and stood uh shook his hammer eagerly

01:09:45.920 and hard and smoked down in the middle of the crown he saw the face of the hammer sink deep

01:09:53.000 into the head of screamer and at that moment screamer awoke and said oh what is it now

01:09:59.400 did an acorn fall on my head or what is the news with thee but Thor went back speedily

01:10:09.340 and replied that he was then but new awakened said that it was then midnight and there was

01:10:17.600 still yet time to sleep then Thor meditated that if he would if he could get to strike him a third

01:10:27.500 blow. Never should the giant see himself again. He lay now and watched, whether Skrymir were

01:10:34.400 sleeping soundly yet, a little bit before daybreak. When he perceived that Skrymir must

01:10:40.320 have fallen asleep, he stood up at once, rushed over to him, brandished his hammer, when with

01:10:46.700 all his strength he smote upon that one of his temples, which was turned upward towards Lord

01:10:54.320 thor but skrimir sat up stroked his cheek and said ah some of the birds must be sitting in the tree

01:11:02.560 above i imagined when i awoke that some dirt from the twigs fell upon my head oh and you're awake

01:11:12.080 thor it'll be time to arise and clothe us soon so uh but now you have no long of a journey

01:11:20.000 We are very close to Utgard's castle.

01:11:23.120 I have heard how he, how ye have whispered among yourselves that I am no little man in stature.

01:11:29.840 And that is true, but ye shall see even taller men there.

01:11:34.360 If ye come to Utgard there, now I will give you wholesome advice.

01:11:40.300 Do not conduct yourselves boastfully. 0.72

01:11:42.720 for the henchmen of Utgardaloki will not will endure big words from such swaddling little babes 1.00

01:11:52.480 as yourselves but if not so then turn back I think it were better for you to do that 1.00

01:12:00.920 so he's saying too he's like they're bigger than me but you can turn back now nobody's gonna know

01:12:08.920 And so that is kind of a revelation towards the purpose of what he's doing.

01:12:14.460 And again, laying the groundwork.

01:12:18.340 But if not so, turn back.

01:12:20.400 I think that would be better for you to do that.

01:12:22.720 But if ye will go forward, then turn to the east.

01:12:26.120 As for me, I hold my way northward now to these hills, which ye may now see.

01:12:32.840 Skrymir then took the provisions bag and cast it on his back and turned from then across the forest.

01:12:39.140 And it is not recorded that the Aesir bade him Godspeed.

01:12:46.200 So, again, before it was question, answer, with kind of lore substantiation.

01:12:54.040 This is very much a great chunk of the story.

01:12:58.200 And bear in mind too, it is built or predicated on the hesitation of revealing Lord Thor's weakness. He can't open the bag. He can't strike a sleeping giant and affect him.

01:13:17.200 and it continues on in just this litany of of kind of fallacies but then it it reveals itself

01:13:26.720 all at the end so 46 of the skills of thor and his companions so pausing for one sec before we

01:13:37.300 get into the next we do certainly and spawn and i tend to uh dawdle on some points in here i want

01:13:44.980 get through for sure tonight the tales of asa thor and we can certainly do that um

01:13:54.820 but it was funny the you know he wished them godspeed at the end

01:14:00.420 but looking over at the side which is just interesting for i don't know linguistic interest

01:14:07.700 uh uh and then they uh so like holy i'm gonna assume hit us is speed i'd have to look that up

01:14:26.340 but yeah it talks about the word for holy which comes root for many things among them halibut

01:14:35.140 like the fish yeah it is the holy fish oh

01:14:40.360 so just random random bit of trivia we can carry on with the narrative I just want to throw that

01:14:49.400 in there because it was a awkward turn of phrase in a in a house of truth yeah I I think

01:14:58.740 interesting too just the idea of holy speed or or holy travel blessed travel and even in uh

01:15:09.300 iceland today to say goodbye you simply say bless or uh if you're very comfortable with

01:15:16.820 the person you know them well you would just say yeah bless bless and that's just kind of the go

01:15:22.980 blessed um so as we kind of break from this situation and move into the next so it's a

01:15:35.060 succession really really covering a large portion of this story um 46 of the skill of thor and his

01:15:45.520 companions so now thor turned forward on his way and his fellows and went onward till midday

01:15:51.920 Then they saw a castle standing in a certain plain and set their necks down on their backs before they could see up and over it.

01:16:03.360 So that's basically, they're craning their necks so high up that their heads are on their backs to see the top of it, to see over it.

01:16:16.440 I love some of the imagery and the wordplay that's going on here.

01:16:21.920 Another thing is the choice of the, of the word castle.

01:16:27.720 So there's, it's a borkar, and then there's, you know, here is, is borkariner.

01:16:35.760 It's, it, it's a castle, it's a keep, but in a Old Norse context, this is a, you know, a walled hall, most likely on a hill.

01:16:47.120 So it's just it's, I think, interesting to think of the simply by inserting the word castle kind of evokes much of even the stories of, say, like Jack and the Beanstalk, which there are some interesting runic and Germanic ties to that story that have survived.

01:17:10.880 But just the simple usage of the word castle, say, versus Stonehall and how stories can begin to move forward in time, even to the point, like, as you've mentioned many times, where Lord Odin and Lord Thor will be perceived as wearing modern medieval attire.

01:17:38.020 carrying a falchion long after the usage of the falchion or I mean the uh the the usage of the

01:17:45.640 straight sword was gone and the falchion was popular it's just I find a lot of that very

01:17:51.140 interesting as well um so they went to the castle and there was a a grating in front of the castle

01:18:00.220 a portcullis, and did not seem in opening it, but they struggled to make their way in.

01:18:08.800 They crept between the bars and came in that way. They saw a great hall and went thither,

01:18:16.320 and the door was open. And then they went in, and they saw many a men on two benches.

01:18:22.520 Most of them were big enough. Thereupon, they came before the king, Utgardaloki.

01:18:29.240 So a couple of things about that. Most people might obviously notice the Loki reference. So it's interesting about the etymology of Loki and the usage sometimes of other titles.

01:18:49.240 But one of the key points to really gain from this is the Utgarda. He is a element outside, very far outside, even by Jotnar standards. So from a cosmological level, the encountering of elements are beyond primordial.

01:19:11.480 They're not ancient fire, ancient earth.

01:19:16.300 It's the confliction of things that even don't have perhaps definition.

01:19:24.580 And we see that as the story progresses.

01:19:30.460 So they went before the king, Utgardaloki, and saluted him.

01:19:35.380 But he looked at them in his own good time and smiled scornfully over his teeth and said, it is late to ask tidings of a long journey.

01:19:47.900 Or it is otherwise than I think that this toddler is Okuthor, yet thou mayest be greater than thou appearest to me.

01:19:59.200 so one of the things that's interesting here is the idea of seeking a place to stay at a late

01:20:07.460 hour uh clearly seeming to be um a faux pas but at the same time he also jabs and says oh is this

01:20:17.820 like a little this is like a little baby uh who's who is this is this okothor but he reveals that

01:20:26.660 He knows that Thor was supposed to be coming.

01:20:30.660 And on top of that, he says, you may appear greater than you appear, or you may be greater than you appear.

01:20:38.220 And that is a very interesting choice of words.

01:20:41.940 So, what manner of accomplishments are those which thou and thy fellows with you think to be ready for?

01:20:50.480 No one shall be here with us who knows not some kind of craft or cunning or some way of surpassing most men.

01:21:00.760 Then spoke the one who came last, who was called Loki.

01:21:07.100 He said, I know such a trick, which I am ready to try, that there is no one here in this hall who shall eat his food more quickly than I.

01:21:16.480 Then Utgarda Loki answered

01:21:20.260 Hmm, that is a feat

01:21:22.120 If thou accomplish it

01:21:23.820 And this feat shall accordingly be put to proof

01:21:27.200 He called to the farther end of one of the benches

01:21:31.720 That he went by the name of Loki

01:21:35.460 That he asked him that he should come forth on the floor

01:21:40.100 And try his prowess against this Loki

01:21:42.240 Then a trough was taken and borne in the hall upon the floor, and it was filled with flesh, again, meat.

01:21:52.240 It was filled with meat.

01:21:54.600 Loki sat down at one end and Logi at the other, and each ate as fast as they could, and they met in the middle of the trough.

01:22:03.380 By the time that Loki had eaten all of the meat from the bones, it was known Loki, likewise, had eaten all the meat and the bones and the trough itself.

01:22:19.880 And now it seemed to all as if Loki had lost the game.

01:22:26.800 Then Utgarda Loki asked what yonder young man could play at.

01:22:32.120 the bondservant, the Alfie, and he answered that he would undertake a race with whoever so Utgard the Loki would bring to him.

01:22:44.500 Then Utgard the Loki said that that was a good accomplishment and that there was a great likelihood that he must be well endowed with the fleetness of foot

01:22:55.840 if he were to perform such a feat, yet he would speedily see to it that the matter should be

01:23:02.760 tested. Then Utgard-the-Loki arose. He went out, and there was, in good course, a course to run

01:23:12.280 on and over a level plane. Then Utgard-the-Loki called to him a certain lad, whose name was

01:23:19.500 Huy, and bade him run a match against the Alfie.

01:23:26.000 Then they held their first heat, the heat of the race.

01:23:30.500 And Huy was so much ahead that he turned back to meet the Alfie at the end of the course.

01:23:39.460 Then said Utkarda Loki, thou wilt need to lay thyself forward more.

01:23:46.440 Thielfi, if thou art to win this game, but it is nonetheless true that never have any men come thither who seem to be more fleeter foot than this.

01:23:57.160 Then they began another heat around the track, and when Hygi had reached the course's end and was turning back, there was still a long bolt shot to Thielfi, an arrow shot.

01:24:11.740 Then spoke the daughter of the Loki.

01:24:13.760 the alvy appears to me to run this course well but i do not believe of him now that he will win

01:24:21.380 in this game but it will be made manifest presently when they run the third course and then

01:24:29.280 they began the heat but when hugi had come to the end of the course and turned back

01:24:34.860 fielfi had not yet even reached the mid course then all said that the game had been proven

01:24:40.840 and they knew who had won. Next, Utgar the Loki asked Thor what feats there is which he might

01:24:50.180 desire to show before them. Such great tales as men have made of his mighty works. Then Thor

01:24:58.680 answered that he would most willingly undertake to contend with any in a drinking contest.

01:25:04.380 Utgar the Loki said that that might well be he went into the hall and he called out to one of

01:25:11.760 the serving boys and bade him to bring him a sconce horn which the henchmen were wont to

01:25:18.020 drink of and straight away the serving lad came forward with the horn and put it into Thor's hands

01:25:24.440 I also like the fact it's not the king's horn it's it's the henchman's horn it's it's the uh

01:25:31.180 the mercs the you know the guys say i just have a round this is try their horn first um

01:25:40.220 so he came forward and he gave the horn and put it into thor's hand

01:25:45.100 then said utgard utgard the loki it is held that this horn is well drained if it is drunk off

01:25:51.740 in one drink but some drink it off in two drinks mainly considering uh like gulps

01:26:01.180 or at least coming up for air, perhaps.

01:26:06.400 But no one is so poor a man at drinking

01:26:09.640 that he fails to drain this horn in three drinks.

01:26:15.840 Thor looked upon the horn, and it did not seem big to him,

01:26:19.220 and yet it was somewhat long.

01:26:22.460 Still, he was very thirsty, so he took and he drank

01:26:25.880 and he swallowed enormously

01:26:27.440 and thought that he should not need to bend oftener to the horn but when his breath failed

01:26:36.560 and he raised his head from the horn he looked to see how it had gone with the drinking it seemed to

01:26:42.900 him that there was very little space by which the drink was lower now in the horn and it was as

01:26:49.240 before. Then said Utgar the Loki, it is well drunk and not too much, I should have not believed, but

01:26:57.400 if it had been told to me that Alsathor could not drink a great drop from this horn, but I know that

01:27:04.420 thou wilt wish to drink it off it in another drop, another try perhaps. Thor answered with nothing,

01:27:12.840 but yet set the horn to his mouth thinking now that he should drink a great drink and he struggled

01:27:19.880 with the drop until his breath gave out and yet he saw that the tip of the horn would not come

01:27:26.840 so much as he had liked so that the the mead at the end of the horn didn't wash towards him uh

01:27:37.320 when he took the horn from his mouth and looked at looked at it it seemed to him that it had

01:27:41.880 decreased less than the former time but now there was clearly apparent lowering in the horn

01:27:49.400 then said utgar the loki oh how now thor that will not shrink from one more drink

01:27:57.480 then may be well for thee if thou now drink the third drop from the horn it seems to me that

01:28:04.840 if it must be esteemed the greatest if be if you be esteemed as the greatest but thou canst

01:28:13.560 not be called so great a man amongst the icer as they call thee if thou cannot better the account

01:28:21.560 of thyself in other games then it seems to me may come of this then thor became extremely angry

01:28:30.200 and he set the horn to his mouth and he drank with all of his might and struggled with the

01:28:38.160 drink as much as he could and when he looked up into the horn at least some space had been made

01:28:43.940 then he gave up gave up the horn and he could drink no more

01:28:49.500 so as these are going we are learning some very interesting hall culture games the drinking of

01:28:59.980 horn or drinking games and the idea of whether it's a a swallow or you're drinking until you can't

01:29:07.820 really go anymore or you have to take a breath um but the the point of this really too is is

01:29:16.620 that you you can't be so great as what the the humans in midgard and the gods say about you

01:29:22.620 You can't contend with my henchman's drinking horn.

01:29:28.200 And this was ultimately the crooks of why earlier in the story,

01:29:32.500 when King Galfi is talking to the three kings and they say they don't want to talk about this,

01:29:38.160 but then they go into excruciating detail about it with good point.

01:29:44.940 Then said Utgard the Loki, now it is evident that thy prowess,

01:29:49.780 not so great as we thought it would be, but wilt thou try thy hand in some more games?

01:29:58.080 It may readily be seen that thou gettest no advantage hereof, Thor, or no advantage hereof.

01:30:05.440 Thor answered, I will make a trial of yet other games, but it would have seemed wonderful to me

01:30:12.560 when I was at home with the Aesir, if such drinks had been called so little.

01:30:18.740 So he's, speaking of the oddity of such a thing, the suspicion is there, something's going on, but, you know, it would have been better, he would have, he has maintained his title amongst the gods, something's off.

01:30:39.700 so uh but what game will you offer me now then said utgar the loki well young lads here are want

01:30:51.260 to do this which is um really of a small consequence amongst us you have to um lift up

01:30:59.400 that cat over there you have to lift it from the earth uh but i really shouldn't have spoken of

01:31:07.880 such a thing for the greatness of also thor if i had not seen that thou had far less in thee than

01:31:15.360 i had thought i would never have considered proposing it but thereupon there leaped forth

01:31:23.240 on how on the hall floor a great gray cat it was a very big one and thor went to it and took with

01:31:31.640 his hands and down under the middle of the belly and he lifted it up but the cat bent in such an

01:31:39.260 arch that Thor stretched up his hands and when Thor reached up as high as he could at the very

01:31:46.880 utmost then the cat lifted but only one foot off the floor and Thor got his game no further.

01:31:54.560 then utgardo loki said this game went even as i had foreseen the cat is very great and large

01:32:04.220 whereas thor you are very low and little besides the huge men here with us

01:32:10.880 so then said thor little as ye call me let anyone who come up now and i will wrestle them 0.76

01:32:22.540 Any one of these big MFers around me, I'll wrestle him right now, is basically what he's saying.

01:32:32.380 And he is angry.

01:32:35.360 Then Utkar the Loki says, looking about upon the benches, and he spoke,

01:32:39.840 I really see no man here within who would not hold it a disgrace to wrestle someone like thee.

01:32:50.880 and yet he said let us see first uh how about the old nursemaid we'll call her hither her name is

01:33:01.100 ellie and we'll let thor wrestle her and with her uh if he will she has thrown such men as have

01:33:11.400 seemed to me so less strong than thor and straight away there came into the hall a bent 0.98

01:33:18.520 an old woman stricken in years. Then Utgar the Loki said that she should grapple Aosothor.

01:33:26.820 There's no need to make a long matter of it. That the struggle went in such a wise

01:33:32.660 that the harder Thor strove in gripping against her, the faster and more stable she stood.

01:33:40.280 Then the old woman essayed a hold

01:33:43.980 And when Thor had become toddy on his feet

01:33:47.720 And that their tuggings were very hard

01:33:50.660 So basically they're doing glima

01:33:53.160 Nordic wrestling

01:33:55.580 And trying to tip each other 1.00

01:33:57.760 She won't move

01:33:58.800 Yet it is not long before Thor fell down to one knee

01:34:03.460 Or to his knee on one foot

01:34:06.060 Then Utgard the Loki went up

01:34:08.480 And bade them to cease the wrestling

01:34:10.140 saying that thor should not to challenge anyone else or more men uh of of his retinue of his

01:34:19.020 bodyguard uh to wrestling this did not bode well by then it had passed towards night utgarda loki

01:34:27.500 showed thor and his companions to their seats and they tarried there the night long in good cheer

01:34:34.220 so the festivities

01:34:36.520 carried on

01:34:38.860 alright pause for one sec

01:34:40.720 I posted some links

01:34:42.940 over in the comments section for anybody

01:34:45.000 who wants to read them but for maybe people who are

01:34:47.000 listening and don't see the links

01:34:48.500 and I'll get to those in a second when we

01:34:50.940 wrap up the story but it occurs

01:34:52.880 to me there's a question outstanding people are

01:34:54.900 confused by

01:34:55.580 Utgard-Laloki

01:34:57.600 why we've established Utgard is

01:35:00.860 like on the outside like in the outer

01:35:02.940 realms

01:35:03.480 but loki is a name but it's also a title just like freya means lord and you can use it with

01:35:14.260 a lowercase f to mean like oh the lord of the house the lord of the castle but it's also the

01:35:20.860 name of freya loki means like liar deceiver so this is like the deceiving outsider

01:35:33.760 um but so it's like it is a title of who this person is and it also the name of a major

01:35:43.120 character in our myth cycle so it is you know the lying outsider or like the deceptive giant from

01:35:53.680 outer reaches of existence it's very back in the story i didn't want to mess up the flow i

01:35:59.680 I like that we're going all the way through the Uthgarla-Loki cycle before we get to questions.

01:36:04.980 So I didn't want to interrupt, but I did get a message on the side that I think some people were confused.

01:36:10.200 Yeah, and it still survives in our language today by saying that's so outlandish.

01:36:14.740 And in a way, that's kind of what the title means.

01:36:17.800 This is the outlandish nature of all of this builds up to something.

01:36:24.000 um 47 of parting the parting of thor and utgar the loki so by the morning as soon as it had dawn

01:36:35.640 thor and his companions rose clothed themselves and were ready to go away 0.99

01:36:40.780 again the litany of defeats and uh clearly the threat that these jotnar who live way on the 0.78

01:36:50.880 outer reaches really what it is is you have to go back to the gods and tell the gods we got an issue

01:36:58.400 that we didn't know before so there's this hurriedness as he's gathering everything and

01:37:04.600 and preparing to go it was then that utgar the loki uh there and he caused the table to be set

01:37:14.880 for them for breakfast and they had eaten. He went out from the castle with them and at parting

01:37:21.620 Utgar the Loki spoke to Thor and asked how he thought this journey of his had ended or whether

01:37:30.080 he had met any man mightier than himself. Thor answered that he could not say that he had not

01:37:36.620 got much shame in their dealings together.

01:37:41.040 But yet I know that ye will call me a man of little might,

01:37:45.540 and I am ill-content with that.

01:37:49.080 So in essence, he's saying, I am not a pitiful man,

01:37:54.500 but I know after leaving this, you will call me such,

01:37:59.120 and I'm not happy with that.

01:38:02.000 Then, said Utgardiloki, now I will tell thee the truth. Now that thou art come out of the castle, and if I live and I am able to prevail, then you shall never again come into it.

01:38:24.460 So he's, I got to tell you the truth.

01:38:27.480 And if I survive even telling you this, I will never let you back into this castle again.

01:38:35.900 And this I know by my troth that thou shouldest never have come into it to begin with.

01:38:42.840 If I had known before that thou had so much strength in thee that thou shouldest so nearly have had just in great peril.

01:38:53.220 but I made ready against the eye illusions, and I came upon you the first time in the wood as

01:39:01.600 skrimir, and when thou wouldest have unloosened the provisions bag, I had bound it with iron,

01:39:09.100 and thou didst not find where to undo it, but next thou didst smite me three times with your hammer, 0.97

01:39:16.000 And then first, but then, oh, excuse me, I've lost, but next thou did smite me three times with the hammer, and the first was the least, and was yet so great that it would have suffered to slay me if it had actually hit me.

01:39:36.860 Where thou sawest near my hall a saddle-backed mountain cut through the top into three square dales, dales valleys, and one of the deepest those were the marks of thy hammer.

01:39:52.080 So he was not striking Skrimir. It was all eye illusions, as it's translated. He was working magic against him to measure him. And every strike created a valley.

01:40:06.980 i brought the saddle back uh the saddle back before the blow but thou didst not set see that

01:40:17.980 so it was also with the games in which he did contend against my henchmen that was the first

01:40:25.220 which loki did he was very hungry and ate zealously but he who calls himself logi is wildfire and he

01:40:34.660 burned the trough no less swiftly than the meat itself and thialvi he ran a race with hugi that

01:40:43.380 is thought and i'll circle back to thought and utgard in a moment and it was not to be expected 0.91

01:40:53.480 of thialvi that he should even match his swiftness at all moreover when thou didst drink from the

01:40:59.780 horn and it seemed to thee to go slowly then? By my faith, that was a wonder, which I should not 0.73

01:41:07.320 have believed even possible. The other end of that horn is connected to the sea, but thou didst not

01:41:13.860 perceive it. But now when thou comest back to the ocean, you will see, you'll be able to mark

01:41:21.200 the diminishing that you had, that thou hast drunk from the sea. And this henceforth is called

01:41:28.500 the ebb tides. So now we're getting into a kind of a physical situation where there is this

01:41:40.840 mythological congruence with the lowering of the tides or the lowering of the ocean.

01:41:47.840 And again, he said, it seemed to me, not less noteworthy, that when thou didst lift up the cat

01:41:55.480 And to tell thee truly, then all were afraid of you in that hall who saw how you had didst lift but one foot off the earth, because that was no cat.

01:42:08.000 That, as it appeared to thee, it was the Midgard serpent, which lies about all the land, and scarcely does it length suffice to encompass the entirety of the earth with its head and its tail.

01:42:23.320 So high didst thou stretch up thine arms that it was then by a little way more to heaven.

01:42:32.400 When thou didst withstand so long and did not fall more than one knee wrestling Ellie, since none had ever been able and none shall ever be able.

01:42:43.940 if he becomes so old as to abide for she is old age that she shall not cause him to fall

01:42:54.100 and now it is the truth to tell that we must part and it will be much better on both of our sides

01:43:00.300 that you never come here to seek us again another time i will defend my castle with similar wiles

01:43:07.640 tricks or with others so that ye shall get no power over me when thor heard these sayings

01:43:17.360 he clutched his hammer and he brandished it aloft but when he was about to launch the attack

01:43:24.060 he saw that utgard loki had disappeared into nothingness he was nowhere and then he turned

01:43:31.340 back to the castle, purposing to crush it piece by piece when he saw there was no castle there,

01:43:38.340 but a wide and open plain. So he turned back and he went his way, till he was back again in

01:43:47.400 Thrudvanger, his home. But it is true the tale that he resolved to seek, if he might bring about

01:43:55.700 a meeting between himself and the Midgard serpent, which afterward came to pass. Now I think no one

01:44:03.160 knows how to tell the more truly concerning these journeys of Thor. So it begins to make the

01:44:12.140 connectivity between the Midgard serpent right at the end there, and that's what moves into the next

01:44:17.160 section um another bout of lord thor against the midgard serpent but it's important we we are

01:44:27.000 laying some key groundwork when he strikes the giant on the head he creates valleys when he

01:44:33.080 drinks from the horn he lowers the ocean when he raises up the cat he is raising up the midgard

01:44:40.760 serpent, which it, you know, the, the postulation that it could be say the currents of the ocean,

01:44:49.920 which would then connect those two, uh, perhaps equatorial or magnetic power of the earth or the

01:44:57.860 very Milky way itself. Some, some, uh, scholars and religious folks have, uh, you know, what if

01:45:05.880 the midgard serpent is the uh the milky way and especially that connection with that raising

01:45:13.480 up to the heavens but again massive forces and considering son of heaven and earth uh magnetism

01:45:27.160 his son magni and his son modi strength gravity and we have all of these deep connections the iron

01:45:35.160 rod the iron core um there is a huge amount of or you know i mentioned the electromagnet

01:45:44.680 the electromagnetic fields there are great levels i think that we could read further into this but

01:45:53.320 he's out there in in the outer in the utgar and he's shifting things that they

01:46:01.880 did not think he could do. And once they found out that he could do it, they realized they were

01:46:09.400 in trouble. The other is elli, old age, time, but time in a, in a consumptive sense, not necessarily

01:46:17.420 say like at the well of Erd, which is in heaven and the Nornir are there placing into reality, 0.50

01:46:25.700 fate, time, destiny, all of these things kind of flowing into the well. No, this is the consumptive 0.97

01:46:32.400 side of time, the drawing of and the breaking down of things as they traverse, as they go from

01:46:41.820 the upper realm to the middle realm, and they drift into the land of consumption, the Jotnar 0.94

01:46:48.740 are are associated with um consuming um this is done through um the the the linguistics of it 0.98

01:46:59.540 are loosely connected to yarvi which is actually the icelandic word for wolverine um but uh the

01:47:08.340 wolverine is a uh it's called gulo gulo or gluttonous glutton because it's constantly eating

01:47:15.300 So Jarvi and the Jotnar, the idea of the consumptive nature of this realm, that it pulls even into the outer realms, the Utgard, and there is this kind of breaking apart of the fabrics of time.

01:47:33.360 um and we know that it doesn't apply necessarily to the land of the dead uh and i think that's

01:47:42.000 ultimately the reason why lord odin placed the souls of the folk there was to keep it

01:47:47.620 keep them safe um but this consumption is going and yet he's tied to heaven which is timeless but

01:47:56.240 he's also tied to the middle world which is not timeless it's cyclical and yet still he stood

01:48:02.480 only languishing a knee. All of this is, again, symbolically speaking of the might that he can

01:48:12.800 stand against even cosmic time consumption. And again, time and gravity and all of these things

01:48:19.260 are, I would say, like, they're relative. But remember, this is the Utgard. This is the

01:48:27.340 outer reaches this is beyond even the understanding of things so here is the

01:48:33.820 consumptive nature of time the final ending place the the langolier in if you're any king fans but

01:48:42.080 just like this kind of consumptive whirlpool breaking and consuming everything down and yet

01:48:48.160 he managed to stay just only losing a knee um the idea that kind of is being bashed here

01:49:00.260 ultimately too is this sense of omnipotence um godly might is godly might and yet at the same

01:49:10.220 time, there is a greater sense that our holy gods must fight and struggle. They must go through. If

01:49:19.280 everything is just simply omnipotence, then everything, every struggle that is, is irrelevant.

01:49:25.640 In actuality, it's created by you. If you create these struggles, you're doing it because

01:49:32.160 apparently you create everything so however for us divine might cosmic might great astronomical

01:49:40.960 divine might is tested in the gamut of an ecosystem of forces moving back and forth

01:49:51.700 some willfully some not willfully some of them are are not even um conscious they're just

01:49:59.140 like fighting against a wave but yet yeah did you finish that last paragraph i did uh

01:50:07.560 yeah i got to 48 okay cool i must have spaced on that i just wanted to make sure we cleared it all

01:50:15.020 the way out because i do want to go into answering a number of questions here yeah i was just

01:50:20.800 speaking about why these correlations would have effect and and how kind of the perceptions how

01:50:28.880 they could be cosmic they could be even quite physical like the lowering of the tides or the

01:50:34.420 your last point was really important and i think that

01:50:38.080 it's one of the points i make about fatalism um and it's another thing that

01:50:48.080 makes our faith a heroic one and not

01:50:55.200 i don't know how to characterize the others and i'm i it's not really about the others it's about

01:51:05.660 ours but what makes ours inherently heroic is their struggle their struggle in this life

01:51:10.760 their struggle in the afterlife and there's also struggle for our gods in the cosmos it's not

01:51:18.540 the all-powerful everything is perfect with this one perfect being and we're all just kind of here

01:51:27.240 to tell him how awesome he is. There's a lot more room for heroic action and you can't have

01:51:34.860 heroism without potential for consequence. So I think that's really important in our Lord. I think

01:51:41.840 it's really important in our faith. It's a fundamental distinction between us and the 1.00

01:51:47.080 abrahamics that i think is very very important so we have a we have a bunch of questions kind

01:51:53.560 of stacking but i want to get to one of the last ones first because can i uh i need to i need to

01:52:00.120 use the restroom really fast so i don't know if you wanted to take it you know you're good go for

01:52:04.760 it i got this one so um it was asked do you guys think there's hope for a white majority pan

01:52:13.800 european population again in america or is our race doomed and it came with a number of other

01:52:22.120 kind of follow-ups and a couple of things we run into this kind of black pill quote unquote thing

01:52:34.520 often and those of us that have heard it endlessly for years and years and years

01:52:40.680 get a little bit grumpy about hearing it sometimes try to shut it down and i don't think that's fair

01:52:46.580 right i think that our folk come to it at different points in their life they come to a

01:52:51.060 realization of all the things out there in the world that um seem to conspire against us in a

01:53:00.000 lot of ways we get um i think you know kind of sometimes there's a tendency to have a flippant

01:53:07.940 remark or two who cares and I saw over in the chat like oh we should all care very deeply

01:53:12.560 you're right we should care very deeply and those of us who are here no matter what bravado that we

01:53:18.920 have or front load with we all see what you see and we do care very deeply the difference is what

01:53:27.180 do you do with that care it is very very easy to see all of the macro problems in the world around

01:53:36.140 us. All of the things that we don't like, wish we were different, or that we know are bad for

01:53:41.500 us individually, our families, and our race as a whole. I get it. To the extent that you have

01:53:51.500 the ability to affect those things, absolutely. Do things that make that better. But what I think

01:53:58.520 lot of us are faced with is what things can we do today in our lives that change

01:54:06.520 the current of western geopolitics over the last 80 years well there's not a lot of direct stuff

01:54:15.880 that we can do what we can do is look around us and see the things we can put our energy in to

01:54:23.560 make better and do those things and it doesn't mean be ignorant of the bigger situation not at all

01:54:31.640 but find ways that you can help make something better and if you can't do anything about the

01:54:36.440 big macro stuff find the micro stuff that you can do stuff about one of the really special things

01:54:44.120 about the ostrich fold assembly we've watched lots of things in this world go in a less good

01:54:51.800 direction for a long time we've seen the afa be awesome we've seen things within our afa family

01:55:00.520 within our faith blossom in beautiful and tremendous ways and being part of the australian

01:55:11.320 gives you a small slice of our folk that you can have a really big impact in making their lives

01:55:20.040 better and doing good things take advantage of that it's so easy to feel weighed down by the

01:55:28.520 literally the weight of the world on your shoulders now focus on the stuff that you can help

01:55:35.000 you can make this world so much better for your fellow afa members your friends your family

01:55:43.240 and by doing that we set off ripples that do affect things i'm not saying stay a loop from

01:55:51.100 me if you have opportunities you know i don't know run for office be part of things get involved

01:55:56.700 that's fine but things that you can actually do to help and i wanted to check with producer

01:56:03.380 nick because we just got some donations it's not just about a money thing but it is about

01:56:07.040 contribution we're we've got five hoffs now 11 years ago we had zero loss that's amazing

01:56:19.360 i am really fortunate as the austerity of the afa almost daily i hear from someone

01:56:27.360 about how the afa has literally saved their life and how it has given them meaning and made their

01:56:34.000 life better that's awesome i feel the presence of the gods in my life every single day that's

01:56:44.560 so precious and i know that so many of our people feel that we are doing something and building

01:56:51.280 foundations of something that is gonna be amazing within our lifetime but more than that that's

01:56:59.680 something that's going to be foundational and awesome for our children and even greater for

01:57:05.120 our grandchildren and spectacular beyond that if we put our energy behind pushing it forward and

01:57:11.840 make it happen we have people contributing tonight to get us to pay off that fifth off so we can get

01:57:18.160 the sixth off which we're going to build ourselves in honor of lord tier we have so many things that

01:57:26.000 we are doing to make the world so much better for the membership of the AFA, our families,

01:57:34.880 and hopefully as a beacon for the rest of our folk to call them home so that the circle of

01:57:41.440 people we can affect and make better keeps getting larger all the time. We can be part of doing that,

01:57:49.600 or we can sit around and endlessly ulcerate over all the things that we all get that aren't good

01:57:57.360 out there so over in the chat i saw a number of things something cool a lot of people are waking

01:58:02.800 up could we become a minority in the country that our ancestors founded possibly we're still a ways

01:58:12.400 away from that but possibly one of the things that i think is really important and again

01:58:21.280 not lots of stuff sucks i get it i'm there i understand but when those things happen they

01:58:29.120 open up opportunities if we are only looking down and we don't look up we miss the chances

01:58:37.120 for success and for doing things. We have a lot of opportunity in that. People are waking

01:58:48.400 up. There are movements all around the West of people who are openly talking about things

01:58:55.720 that are um disadvantageous for our folk people are openly talking about black fatigue and about

01:59:07.480 the presence of international jewelry and negative things that are causing problems

01:59:15.080 that's an open topic of conversation amongst people now to where you couldn't even venture

01:59:21.000 close to that 10 years ago. Eyes are opening. There's good things. One of the things that I've

01:59:30.480 seen is it takes a certain amount of hitting rock bottom in life or personal tragedy to open

01:59:39.640 people's eyes to the things that are important and the things that they need. I don't wish that

01:59:46.400 tragedy on people but if it happens there is an upside that people wake up and hopefully

01:59:53.280 if we're building this the best we can when they do wake up they have a place to come home to and

01:59:59.760 a community to help strengthen them and help build success for them and their families we're doing

02:00:06.000 that in the afa to the best of our ability is it fixing everything absolutely not but is it fixing

02:00:13.360 some very important things in our lives and our families lives absolutely are we trying to fix

02:00:20.000 those things for as many of our folk as we invite home and take us up on that invitation absolutely

02:00:26.000 we're doing it every day and we're doing it even better every year we now have five hoffs to the

02:00:33.120 icer where for a thousand years there was no pops to the icer that's amazing we've got beautiful

02:00:40.480 things that we're doing together. I'm not sure, you know, we're going by whatever YouTube name

02:00:45.960 in the chat room. I don't know if you're a member or not. If you're not, I would invite you to get

02:00:50.980 on the team and be part of what we're doing because we're much stronger the more of us

02:00:57.100 who are doing it together. But I didn't want to just glaze over it. It's not, please don't ever

02:01:01.020 think that we don't get it or it's not important. We just choose not to dwell on it all the time.

02:01:06.420 We're aware, so many of us are aware, but we're also trying to make everybody aware of our beautiful and amazing heritage, our link with the gods of our creation who wrote and built our souls, who gave us the very first gifts in a holy gift cycle that we are just now reestablishing.

02:01:30.960 um beautiful things are happening be part of that we are building a golden age within the

02:01:38.420 husk of the wolf age around us and for those inside that golden age they're seeing some

02:01:45.040 really beautiful things happen and i hope that more of our people invite anyone listening to

02:01:49.480 this if you're a heterosexual white person come home get on the team join the outstreet focusing

02:01:55.240 we would love to have you we have victories to win together that being said it's fun to return

02:02:01.720 from his potty break um back in action want to recognize shannon in georgia for a 20 donation

02:02:11.080 to the pavilion thank you so much we appreciate you nick in ohio donated 90 towards paying off

02:02:19.080 phrasehoff the hoff that exists in austintown ohio uh thank you very much for that nick we

02:02:25.800 appreciate you gw farnsworth joins us i know we may have thrown you off with our uh time change

02:02:31.320 but we'll add your own program and a stalwart every time donor 25 each towards phrasehoff and

02:02:39.080 towards uh paying off cigarette we appreciate you so much thank you um yeah and that's

02:02:48.520 that's what we've got on that we do have some other questions we're going to try to hit those

02:02:52.840 we will i say finish off with the remaining tale of also four in this piece we will at least do

02:03:01.480 that and kind of see where we're at but i do want to hit some of these questions while they're there

02:03:05.480 so emily and here's the thing if you are unable to make the broadcast but you still have questions

02:03:12.920 you want us to answer you can email those to us literally at any time you can email them during

02:03:17.660 the show or i don't know it 4 a.m on a friday if you think of them bns at runestone.org and we will

02:03:28.380 get to them on our next available opportunity. So Emily has three questions for us. The first,

02:03:36.260 what is your opinion on evolution, mainly macro? Do all the races share a common ancestry?

02:03:43.400 Svon, qual se é tu?

02:03:50.400 So, obviously, from the macro, it is observable.

02:04:00.400 There is that.

02:04:02.340 How the minutiae of it fully works from the past and what we can observe today,

02:04:10.000 I am open to a lot of that, but observably, evolution happens.

02:04:17.760 common ancestor we are we already know that that concept and the interceding injection of other

02:04:30.600 say uh you know whether it's neanderthal with the europeans um homo habilis with the africans

02:04:40.020 There is also this kind of interconnectivity with different non-common ancestors.

02:04:49.720 I think that that showcases clearly a level that there isn't an interconnectedness between us as much as modern science would really, really love to believe.

02:05:02.280 And they're just afraid to talk about it because that opens up other doors.

02:05:07.820 But I mean, if we're willing to at least admit that there is the injection of hominids that are, some of them haven't been found, some of them are mysterious, the others have been studied, and that they've had effects on different groups of humans throughout the world,

02:05:31.420 then that's one step closer to an understanding that having a different origin for for us and we

02:05:40.960 see this with um the kind of blanketed term that oh we have we have a common ancestor that uh that

02:05:50.900 we broke away from or they broke away from if they're talking about primates and things uh we

02:05:56.800 know there's a common ancestor and it's just very easy to kind of blanketly say that but up until

02:06:03.920 only you know maybe 50 years or so was the consideration oh wait a minute one there's an

02:06:11.280 injection of other hominids as they're kind of uh unifying in different areas and there are different

02:06:18.720 ones um that they you know they are starting to begin to realize like the possibility of of origin

02:06:29.360 and how far it goes back and at what point if there is any unification they don't really know

02:06:37.360 science is kind of like that though i mean if you ask science and i just say that in a

02:06:44.240 in kind of a funny sense but i'm being a little serious

02:06:49.600 the moon they don't like scientific there's plenty of theory there's no definitive proof and

02:06:59.600 the possibility may never be found out but it could also be found out with certain things but

02:07:06.560 there isn't one it is the same in this case we can postulate that there is a common link or an

02:07:14.400 ancestral connective point because that makes sense to us in a in a in a logical sense utilizing that

02:07:28.000 logic but yet time and time again that logic has been bashed by wholly different ideas that have

02:07:36.720 come in and proven that just the train of thought does not necessarily stand up to the truth

02:07:44.000 of the actual situation so when we talk about those things it's not about whether we do or we

02:07:53.680 don't it's about the possibility that if we're looking at things is there a possibility that

02:08:03.120 there isn't and why is that rejected so much because it defies logic or it just because

02:08:10.080 that's something mean people would say i mean again there are other hominid species that have

02:08:17.840 they have genetic connections to us that people would never have believed just a little while

02:08:26.720 ago. So I'm more open to all of the possibilities and I don't like to lock down on that. I try to

02:08:34.360 focus predominantly on where I'm standing and kind of in my yard, if you will, and not necessarily

02:08:44.240 pushing uh on others whether we want to talk about evolution de-evolution which again another

02:08:52.780 concept that was being spoken about uh not too long ago but was immediately quashed uh even

02:09:00.600 you know robert e howard and um h.p lovecraft were discussing the ideas of like de-evolution

02:09:07.200 and it was normal and then right around about the 50s it got iced because it could open up

02:09:16.360 possibilities that they people didn't want to talk about um the invasion theory of um

02:09:23.620 india which really isn't a theory anymore because of genetics but we have these points where all

02:09:32.300 things that are thought either impossible or absolutely possible are kind of standing or

02:09:41.220 floating in limbo until I think we have the possibilities of finding out. But I don't want

02:09:48.260 to say one way or the other, because I think that's actually ridiculous to do so considering

02:09:53.480 how many times things have been proven. I think it would be more likely that we are not

02:10:01.680 sourced from the same sources but have merged but that's you know it's like kind of like uh when you

02:10:09.180 see the scientific um things were like oh everything's evolving into crabs they're

02:10:15.220 totally different things but they end up crabs right parallel to each other even though they

02:10:21.720 sourced completely from different places if that is applying there and we can see parallelism in

02:10:28.960 nature happen over and over and over again i think it would be more substantial to say that the

02:10:34.720 possibility is that we are sourced from different uh places but people don't like to say that

02:10:43.120 because they don't want to be perceived as mean or what have you but they have no problem saying

02:10:47.840 about crabs it's just people because it becomes different uh it's the same thing with like

02:10:53.840 species designation. There is clearly a difference between these two wolves that are barely different

02:11:01.580 by any sort of visible means. But the moment you suggest that humans are different, the whole

02:11:07.180 topic gets shut down. And you get the well actuallys that are like, oh, well, genetic this

02:11:12.180 and genetic, but can't quite formulate why, you know, one, the polar bear to the grizzly bear

02:11:20.660 who have been living apart from each other less time than some human groups.

02:11:30.700 So you just find the scientific kind of hemming and hawing.

02:11:34.840 And I would just kind of err on the side of the possibilities that I've seen elsewhere.

02:11:41.640 And I'm not a scientist.

02:11:43.520 I'm not a biologist.

02:11:45.060 but I am skeptical when biologists immediately try to kind of glaze things over and avoid

02:11:54.060 dangerous topics. Those that, my son just drew something for me and showing it.

02:12:06.180 I can look with confidence towards other things and find parallel. And I think that that's

02:12:13.660 something that we should do without perhaps any sense of bias of right or wrong, or whether it's

02:12:20.360 going to hurt people's feelings. And you see other people very confidently speaking in the other

02:12:25.760 direction, say they, they, they come on to social media and they're like, oh, we're, you know, we

02:12:30.740 have alien DNA and we're not, you know, we're of this world or we're not of this world. And they

02:12:36.680 very confident, just kind of shooting from the hip on, on this subject. I prefer to say,

02:12:41.320 I see it elsewhere. Can it apply to us? Well, I think so, because of parallelism in evolution and the ecology of organisms.

02:12:53.940 But do I know fully? I don't. And I'm open to things. As we learn more, even just genetics alone has cracked open so much in the past 40, 50 years. Or, I mean, not even that. This is shorter than that. And we can, I think there's more to come as we go.

02:13:21.020 So something I'd like to say, there's, Emily, your questions are awesome and we are going

02:13:29.120 to answer them as best we can.

02:13:31.220 I want to stay up front.

02:13:35.660 We can answer your questions easier if we just made something up.

02:13:40.520 That fixes lots of stuff.

02:13:42.420 If we just by divine right, I'm the Alzheimer's and I say so, I just make stuff up.

02:13:46.400 i do the very best that i can not to use that and not to do that truth is what matters

02:13:53.380 anything that i'm going to tell you is going to be my honest understanding of the truth

02:14:00.000 sometimes that means i don't know sometimes that means none of us this side of the veil know

02:14:09.300 In terms of evolution, do we have a common ancestor in terms of an amoeba or a rodent that might branch off into something else at some point?

02:14:27.160 Maybe.

02:14:29.160 In terms of people, no.

02:14:32.320 i think that more and more that we understand the out of africa thing is debunked as nonsense

02:14:39.820 and i think that the races of mankind are very distinct and you know a real thing

02:14:48.820 um

02:14:49.780 as a funny aside that was one of the three planks of why we are a hate group on the spLC's hate group

02:14:59.960 list surprisingly none of those things are hateful one of those planks we spread the

02:15:08.680 white nationalist propaganda about a white genocide in south africa you can call it what 0.68

02:15:14.520 you want but like just google it it's a thing it's a thing that's happening white farmers are

02:15:19.720 being targeted in a way that's sanctioned by governmental people in south africa to be dispossessed

02:15:28.040 to be murdered and raped and despoiled at their property it means the definition by

02:15:34.920 united nations of genocide by anybody's fair measure is true another one is we have an 1.00

02:15:41.000 archaic view of gender meaning boys have a penis girls have a vagina this is also true biology 0.97

02:15:46.440 tells us this any kind of forensic anthropology you can tell us what skeleton is male and what 0.99

02:15:51.720 What skeleton's female?

02:15:53.820 Third, we believe there is a genetic component to race.

02:15:58.260 Again, any forensic person can tell a skeleton like, 0.98

02:16:04.540 oh, is this mongoloid, caucasoid, or negroid?

02:16:08.340 Those categories are really big.

02:16:10.200 They exist.

02:16:11.400 We aren't common in that sense.

02:16:14.880 We are distinct.

02:16:16.040 interracial breeding in recent 0.89

02:16:21.120 decades have caused

02:16:23.320 certain people to be less distinct

02:16:25.160 but those distinctions are

02:16:27.220 self-evident

02:16:28.120 to your second

02:16:33.300 question

02:16:33.820 did our gods create everything

02:16:37.120 the earth, the universe

02:16:39.360 matter itself, etc

02:16:41.200 oh, sorry

02:16:43.100 back to the, okay, before I get

02:16:45.240 that back to the uh evolutionary question what i think is important to note in our war

02:16:55.480 our gods both in billion they found two things they found two existent things described in our

02:17:08.040 war as driftwood or or trees that are washed up on the on the banks of the banks of the body of

02:17:17.160 water uh aster the ash tree and elm tree and they took those existing things and imbued them with

02:17:31.880 with life with vigor with um the grasp of the divine spark with a breath of life with they

02:17:43.480 made those existent things us i don't think those existent things are trees those are something

02:17:52.600 that existed they took and transformed a thing into the first arian man and the first arian

02:17:59.960 woman created our race at that time so exactly what that looks like and how that interfaces

02:18:07.000 with evolution i think is interesting it's a fascinating thing to ponder the truth we know

02:18:12.520 from it is something existed our gods took the thing that existed and shaped that thing you know

02:18:21.080 to uniquely us in that moment of God's touching our ancestors

02:18:27.780 and building and initiating that first step in the gift cycle.

02:18:34.340 So on to the second thing.

02:18:37.460 Did our gods create everything?

02:18:39.860 The earth, the universe, matter itself, et cetera.

02:18:43.740 How does that fit with other gods creating the other races?

02:18:47.800 Did they all work together in some way to create the world?

02:18:51.080 So, this one is a little bit more confounding, as a lot of people want to know this.

02:19:08.280 what

02:19:09.740 I would say no to

02:19:16.100 like the universe

02:19:18.120 existence

02:19:19.060 matter

02:19:22.800 I think those things

02:19:25.840 existed before

02:19:28.040 our gods being 0.85

02:19:30.260 the Aesir and we see in the

02:19:32.200 story that there are elements that come

02:19:34.000 before

02:19:34.680 our gods are born

02:19:37.300 they have a lineage that goes back

02:19:39.880 there are cosmic

02:19:41.780 forces and cosmic

02:19:43.760 things in existence

02:19:45.140 there's emir

02:19:47.160 there's adomla

02:19:48.360 there's anunbi gap

02:19:50.500 there's musfel

02:19:53.500 musfelheimer

02:19:55.360 and naifelheimer

02:19:56.960 there's things that exist

02:19:59.540 our gods

02:20:01.560 exist in a context

02:20:03.280 and they didn't create the context

02:20:05.540 they arose as gods within the context

02:20:10.920 they did create us

02:20:13.180 and they shaped our reality

02:20:15.700 and our relationship to that context

02:20:19.900 that we were all in

02:20:21.280 our lore would imply a shaping

02:20:26.620 of the natural world that our folk found ourselves in

02:20:30.820 surely other

02:20:33.720 gods of other

02:20:35.840 creatures that share

02:20:38.100 the earth with us

02:20:39.120 have similar conceptions

02:20:42.160 of how the earth

02:20:44.380 where they are is created

02:20:46.160 at some

02:20:48.160 point beyond our understanding

02:20:50.360 those things

02:20:51.540 had to overlap

02:20:54.220 or interplay in some way

02:20:56.100 I would love to have

02:20:58.300 the definitive answer of that

02:20:59.800 and they don't, it would be compelling

02:21:02.580 to say, yes, our gods are the only real

02:21:04.660 gods. They created everything, and these

02:21:06.720 other things are all

02:21:07.820 strange, illusional, non-being

02:21:11.120 things.

02:21:12.400 I think that's also unfair.

02:21:19.020 So, maybe,

02:21:20.800 but I think that the

02:21:22.720 lesson for us that's really

02:21:23.980 foundational is

02:21:26.480 our gods

02:21:28.160 made us us

02:21:31.340 and they

02:21:33.160 shaped the context

02:21:35.340 that we face

02:21:37.300 the world and the universe around

02:21:39.400 us in. They

02:21:41.000 contextualize

02:21:42.520 and put points of reference

02:21:45.360 for us

02:21:46.780 in that larger creation

02:21:49.240 framework.

02:21:50.920 How that exactly happened

02:21:52.820 in the mists of antiquity,

02:21:54.740 I would love to tell you the

02:21:56.900 definitive edition of all of it to the finest detail, maybe one day the Aesir will bless

02:22:04.180 me with that knowledge, but they have not as of yet to be completely honest on it.

02:22:10.340 But this is a part of the narrative that I think is important.

02:22:16.760 I deny and find completely delegitimate any other racial group's conception of God's that

02:22:24.660 devalue mine or say mine don't exist or are bad or are other i don't presume to tell other races

02:22:38.280 of people how they need to reconcile their relationship with their gods and their divinity

02:22:44.260 and their ancestors that is between them their ancestors and their gods some of those may well

02:22:51.600 be true some of those may well be bogus some of them may be any degree in between i have enough

02:23:00.320 respect for other life forms that occupy planet earth with us to allow them their destiny and

02:23:08.480 their you know ability to work that out for themselves so long as it does not negate or

02:23:16.400 prevent mine and to the degree that it does i approach that conflict honorably when that is

02:23:27.680 the option and i know that is not the cleanest answer that i would love to give you but it is

02:23:33.760 the honest answer swan what would you add yeah well one i would also like to point out that

02:23:40.560 Al-Syri Gaudi is doing something I think a lot of times you don't necessarily face with other religious leaders.

02:23:49.740 You will get people who perhaps, you know, they strut around kind of circling on these texts, say the Tanakh or the Bible,

02:24:02.740 and they kind of spin around and angle and shoot in relation to this book that they know very well

02:24:11.920 and they kind of end up kind of spinning the argument around and around and around and around

02:24:17.940 but what you're getting here is genuine leveled responses there's honesty there is a sense of

02:24:30.300 sincerity. There is a point of moving forward where there is no more of this pretentious

02:24:39.760 kind of I've memorized a book. Instead, what you get is real life spiritual people

02:24:47.320 that want to help other people. And what it really does require is there is kind of that

02:24:55.640 perfect balance of when to add mythos and when to strip it away and so there is the that balance

02:25:06.200 and some people do want when they go to when they go to something like uh and again this says a lot

02:25:13.400 about their religious like intentions when they go to a magician or they go to an entertainer

02:25:19.640 they want to be entertained they want magic they don't want reality and so that says a lot about

02:25:28.120 them but what you're getting here is a sincerity now to kind of extend on what al-sir-gothi is

02:25:37.160 talking about when we look at the world around us we know that the stories that passed down

02:25:47.640 to us from the gods speak specifically about things, and we were talking about in an allegoric

02:25:54.780 sense. When we talk about Ymir, the primordial giant, and all of the giant beasts coming off of

02:26:05.840 his body, and it's like an age before. So the primordial, which has no will, no drive, it just

02:26:16.580 is. And I can almost hear it now. Well, who created that? Who created that? And it just

02:26:22.700 goes back and back until irrelevance. But let's just bring it forward again.

02:26:28.800 Ymir is this, the ancient time, this, the roaring being, and there's the tumultuous 0.88

02:26:37.440 age of the giants or the Yotnar. I hate to use the word giant because giant just doesn't quite

02:26:44.280 fit, but it's what we got. Etten, I guess, is the elder English. But it's the age of the Etten.

02:26:54.140 And there is just so much of the primordial taking manifest. And then the gods come about

02:27:05.640 in the same place and time. They're not so younger that, or they're not an alien. They're

02:27:13.540 their processes is brought about in the same with Adumla and, you know, this creation of the original

02:27:24.960 tripartite in the beginning, which is Yggdrasil, Adumla, and Ymir, creates a series of events,

02:27:36.800 and that leads to the slaying of emir the flood of the blood and the creation of the land and

02:27:45.140 the reshaping of the sky so when in relation to say others there's two possibilities one

02:27:52.240 is that other people could be describing the same thing uh but in in their own way the other is

02:28:02.600 is that they're completely unrelated or they don't have connectivity. That could be for,

02:28:08.040 again, multiple reasons. One is that they're incapable of perceiving things or they have a

02:28:16.560 totally different interaction with creation. And maybe they, at the end result, they're trying to

02:28:26.020 achieve something different so going back when emir is slain and the gods shape the world

02:28:37.140 they shape the world and it's very in like it's describing specifically the world that our

02:28:45.220 ancestors knew it wasn't the world that they didn't know now i'm not saying that that means

02:28:51.860 that other gods shaped other parts but what i am saying is that divinity focuses its level of

02:29:02.020 explanation through the bloodline through the people and so they would very much perceive

02:29:08.900 only that which they understand that's a genuine answer it's not oh dinosaurs were placed here by

02:29:16.580 Satan. That's such a backpedal and a gaslight because the simple truth is they didn't know

02:29:23.780 about that back then. You see, what I'm ultimately trying to get at is that the genuine and level

02:29:31.200 headed nature of real people trying to explain spiritual precepts. Now, ultimately, we have

02:29:41.000 what our people understand. And then they take the uprooted trees. One is an ash, the other is an

02:29:49.180 elm, so the trees are different, but they are shaped into man and into woman. And that has a

02:29:56.080 lot of symbolic meaning. Again, very, very genuine, but does it apply to everyone on the planet? No,

02:30:03.240 we don't consider that because it applies to what our ancestors understood.

02:30:11.000 And our ancestors are not everyone else.

02:30:15.000 And everyone else's ancestors are not our ancestors.

02:30:19.020 They're theirs.

02:30:21.040 So what ends up happening is very much like the who created this, who created that.

02:30:27.240 It goes so far back into absurdity that what needs to be done is that's irrelevant.

02:30:34.140 However they do for themselves is that.

02:30:38.600 If I pass and I find some greater revelation from the gods, that is fine. But what I have now,

02:30:49.340 I go on now. It's not some adherence to being me. It's not some adherence to being a villain

02:30:57.060 that other people might want to paint me as. It is an understanding of truth. And the truth is

02:31:04.220 what I have right now in my hands and what my ancestors had. So they see the world.

02:31:14.300 And note, when they ran into the, say like the Blaumader, the Northmen, when they ran into the

02:31:21.480 blue men, as they called the people of North Africa, they didn't say, oh, the gods created 0.97

02:31:27.720 them, I don't know, because they were sinful from Cain, and that's why their skin is the way it is. 0.94

02:31:35.060 No, they were a factor that was unknown, and they didn't ask or try to, 0.94

02:31:43.440 why did the gods do that? No, that was their own thing. We only know what we are sourced from. It's

02:31:52.880 like a river trying to justify the existence of another river instead of flowing and understanding

02:32:01.200 its source. So I think all of these things become, I mean, they're interesting and I really like

02:32:10.900 talking about them and I'm not heeded by any way of this. It's just that you get a sincerity and

02:32:17.820 a genuine answer that's so nuanced that some people just don't get happy with wanting to come

02:32:24.900 to the entertainer and they're not getting entertained. We're not entertainers. We're not

02:32:29.920 magicians. The idea though, is that we are talking about real level-headed conceptualizations of

02:32:39.360 spirituality. And that oftentimes just doesn't sit well with people. They want the fekir,

02:32:48.260 the floating swami. But when you start to look at the real tangible

02:32:56.580 meat of what we're talking about, you begin to see the layers of spiritual development. And

02:33:07.260 that's where the answers lie. So when we talk about the other gods or other powers,

02:33:17.120 our gods never state anywhere that there are other gods. There is a religion that does.

02:33:24.480 Judaism slash Christianity talks about the second commandment, I believe, is, you know, 0.89

02:33:30.540 you shall put no other gods before me. And they've translated that into money or like kind of 0.91

02:33:36.920 uh, I don't know, just formless concepts, um, like oppression, you know, it's like that kind

02:33:44.140 of, that kind of thought makes me very like, uh, when you make a formless thing, but the reality

02:33:50.300 is, is that wasn't what it was meaning. It was a very tangible concept. Um, there was even the

02:33:57.680 mention of the gods of the iron wheel that lived northward of the people of the Levant, um, that

02:34:04.500 clearly associated. So there is correlation, say, in other faiths. Could there be ours in ours?

02:34:16.400 Sure. Could there also be the fact that somebody in our faith says, you know what? I don't even

02:34:22.380 care. I don't care where or what relationship they have. I'm just going to continue on flowing

02:34:30.580 from the source that I have. Sure. But I think anybody that travels and goes long into the world

02:34:40.220 can see the great rivers of people and the sources that they come from. And really you can't be them

02:34:48.220 and you can't, you know, it's not recommended you can join because that causes a problem. There's

02:34:56.620 like an inconsistency of the two. It's kind of the solitary flow of that river makes it

02:35:07.320 beautiful. So when you start to take that away, you end up getting, you know, kind of a river

02:35:12.500 that doesn't know which way to flow. But I go to a foreign country. I went to Japan last year,

02:35:19.780 And I saw such great parallels between my faith and their faith that I got an understanding of what they were doing.

02:35:30.180 I understood why a lot of the traditions and beliefs were coming about.

02:35:39.560 And I think that's good.

02:35:42.980 I think that the stronger we are in our place, we become much more aware and much more respectful of other people in their places.

02:35:56.040 The other problem is, is that there are people that consistently try to explain religion in a broad sense with everyone.

02:36:03.900 And they don't talk about nuanced things.

02:36:06.060 Like you might hear people, especially here in America, say, oh, the Native American religion.

02:36:11.020 And it's like, if you really looked at it, you know, it was so varied based on so many things. There was really no consistent Native American religion. It was so variable across two continents.

02:36:30.440 And in reality, too, when you look at our faith from the Nordic to the Germanic to the Anglo-Saxon, and then you get into even the Celtic Gaulish people and the Slavs and the Hellenics, you can look at these kind of correlative things.

02:36:49.520 I actually believe that our gods are the same gods as, say, the Slavs and of the Celts and of the Hellenics, but are filtered through a cultural lens that is so deep and intricate that it can feel like they're not.

02:37:07.640 But we see that connection linguistically, genetically through migrations. And so sourcing back to that, I think, is conceptually possible. But outside of that, I don't think that it's worth really twisting the mind over about it.

02:37:31.620 So again, the key factor would be to maintain the flow of the river in order to preserve the river.

02:37:39.960 And if the river is worth preserving, which I believe it is, then you maintain the flow.

02:37:46.400 If it's not so much an important thing, that might remind you to universalize the gods and say, oh, yes, all the people of Earth are really just the children of the All-Father.

02:38:00.580 But again, on a surface level, that has its own problems. You go in and you tell another people that their traditions and their biological river that has flowed for forever, that we can conceptualize, is wrong and they should be worshiping our gods.

02:38:22.640 And maybe only people have a problem with that because we're white.

02:38:28.200 We're white folks. 0.56

02:38:29.480 We have white gods. 0.88

02:38:30.940 And now we're telling people that so we don't do that.

02:38:34.520 And people are like, how dare you? 0.96

02:38:37.880 So it's that damned if you do, damned if you don't. 0.82

02:38:41.920 So I think it's best to just kind of draw that line, make that concession and say, look, it's not really mine. 0.97

02:38:49.060 It's out of my land.

02:38:50.540 So I focus on what my land is and I move forward from there and do a better service to people who are not you and understanding them and respecting them rather than universalizing and saying our gods are the only true gods.

02:39:09.700 they created

02:39:12.160 not only the world that our ancestors

02:39:14.320 knew, but the world that

02:39:16.080 your ancestors knew.

02:39:18.180 And every story that you have

02:39:19.920 is bulk.

02:39:21.780 So the next question, also from Emily,

02:39:26.860 her

02:39:27.060 tripartite of questions today.

02:39:31.280 Yes.

02:39:32.400 Does objective morality

02:39:33.980 exist? And if not,

02:39:36.120 what is the reasoning for why we

02:39:38.000 should do one thing over another?

02:39:40.580 example why should we be courageous instead of coward thank you so much for victory number

02:39:46.500 sleeps it has blessed me so much well you are very welcome uh i'm very glad that you like the program

02:39:54.180 and that you have uh you know provided these really good questions for us tonight

02:40:00.580 the answer to this one is and it relates I think to something else we're going to get to I can

02:40:10.300 scan the questions coming up but I think it's something that Shirley was asking

02:40:15.620 and we'll get to that in its own right when it comes about but I think that we overthink some

02:40:27.900 stuff and i think sometimes questions are posed as a thought experiment and i'm happy to take

02:40:36.460 this one as that but before i do i want to

02:40:48.300 so as a strange aside and again i'm coming at this question from a lot of strange angles so

02:40:54.060 of their way.

02:40:55.840 I've seen this said in Christianity

02:40:58.160 a lot, too.

02:41:00.200 Well, we need Christianity 1.00

02:41:01.900 because that's the only way we know 1.00

02:41:04.000 right from wrong. Like, if the Bible didn't

02:41:06.060 exist,

02:41:08.160 and you have to feel like so if...

02:41:10.380 Okay, hold on.

02:41:11.740 Sorry. Good night, sweetheart. I love you.

02:41:14.280 I'll see you in the morning.

02:41:16.140 Have good drinks.

02:41:17.720 Have a good day. Have a good day tomorrow.

02:41:20.460 Alright, so 0.98

02:41:21.660 So, as if Christianity didn't exist, then people would just wantonly rape and murder and, you know, just be basically evil constantly. 0.96

02:41:40.020 I don't think that's true.

02:41:42.080 I think fundamentally, we have a very basic and rudimentary understanding of right and wrong.

02:41:50.020 I think that fundamentally, without philosophizing on it, we can understand, in a very basic sense, good things versus bad things, evil things versus good things.

02:42:08.000 the world is way more complicated and in nuanced situations certainly we need some guidance

02:42:14.660 but in basic terms I think that we understand a lot of those things

02:42:21.440 when I say we don't mean other forms of earth fauna I mean us our people uniquely

02:42:32.260 are okay so i talk about asking him being the first arian man and woman

02:42:40.080 i don't say that to be aging because arian's racist you know arian is a word that is a

02:42:51.560 self-describer that means the noble people and it applies like a shining like uh projective

02:43:00.640 nobility. It's a high mark to set for ourselves that that be our defining characteristic.

02:43:13.780 We know the difference between noble and ignoble. So is there objective morality? I think some of

02:43:25.240 that comes from empathy, and I know that empathy in today's climate has in certain circles

02:43:30.620 come to be a negative thing, and I don't mean that. But oftentimes we understand the effect

02:43:39.140 our actions have on others and how we feel when bad things happen to us, and we apply

02:43:44.880 those to how we treat other living things. The nobility of our nature is one of the gifts

02:43:51.560 given by Odenville, they helps us to understand being above base animal survival instinct

02:44:03.640 and crafted of ideal and of honor.

02:44:11.360 Are those universal amongst other forms of life we share the planet with?

02:44:19.240 No, clearly they're not. Amongst us, amongst Aryan people, yes, there is a universal understanding

02:44:30.220 of the basic outlines of noble behavior. So a couple of things happen. I've mentioned

02:44:41.140 on the show tonight several times

02:44:42.940 Odenvillianve gifting

02:44:45.000 the breath of life

02:44:50.260 the like animating force

02:44:53.160 of you know self knowledge

02:44:54.980 and existence and the ability

02:44:57.140 of having divine spark

02:44:59.040 to the gifts of Odenvillianve

02:45:01.380 to our most distant ancestors

02:45:03.640 Asghar and Nehru

02:45:04.760 but there's 0.92

02:45:07.360 more to it

02:45:08.260 At a later stage, the Isir sent Heimdallur down to impart different levels and help our people advance at different times and to ennoble our folk to consecutive generations or stages of development of our people.

02:45:30.940 And we saw that continuing to give more nobility, more regality, more bearing and presence and elevation of behavior to each of these groups of people. 0.93

02:45:50.440 going from Thoreau all the way up to Cain

02:45:56.340 to help fully ennoble and actualize our folk.

02:46:03.040 That process refined our inherent understanding

02:46:08.500 of nobility and of morality.

02:46:12.300 Some of that has been eroded 0.96

02:46:14.860 in the past thousand years of Christianity.

02:46:17.660 but inherently that is code written in who we are in the very fabric of fabric of our blood and bone

02:46:26.280 and we understand it it has always been the case amongst our folk to be taught by our elders

02:46:33.940 by the gothar and by the sacred lore of our people guidance on how to apply that nobility

02:46:42.720 especially when there is conflicting things so that's the thing you know in a perfect scenario

02:46:49.620 I think we very often know the perfect action but life's messy we have conflicting allegiances

02:46:56.680 we have conflicting circumstances and sometimes we're not presented with a hundred percent light

02:47:04.700 option or a hundred percent dark option we have to function in gray areas and work our way through

02:47:10.900 the best of our ability that's where heroism occurs that's where the challenge of shaping

02:47:17.140 our way another thing that is inherent in our understanding of the concept of the araya or

02:47:24.420 noble man and woman is the ability to make choices as an independent agent in this world

02:47:30.900 to take upon yourself the responsibility

02:47:34.920 to find a gray mist before you

02:47:41.940 and to the best of your ability,

02:47:44.660 carve out your path and stand by it.

02:47:48.540 These things are what elevate and allow for heroism.

02:47:52.080 If we're just following pre-instructions,

02:47:54.860 there's nothing heroic.

02:47:56.220 We're heroic.

02:47:56.980 We are just servile to whoever wrote the instruction book.

02:48:00.900 us that's not our path ours is one of making adult choices and adult decisions about life

02:48:08.420 based on the best of the information we have available to us and then bearing up under the

02:48:13.540 consequences of the decisions and choices that we make again emily your questions are awesome

02:48:22.100 and i am giving you the most convoluted answers in the world i wish that i had crystal clear

02:48:28.780 beautiful ones but i promise you the answers i'm giving you are the honest answers to the

02:48:34.940 best of my understanding of my reckoning um it's fun do you have something to add to that

02:48:40.780 uh yeah so just to reiterate we're speaking about objective versus subjective morality

02:48:48.620 some interesting considerations one we've spoken about how our faith looks at order or law and

02:49:05.340 that which is eternal versus chaos and disruption or consumption and that which is fluctuating

02:49:15.500 And everything's kind of in a spectrum between there. So chaos and law in the universal sense are applying to the universe. I very much believe is objective.

02:49:34.460 When you get into morality, what you find is there is, it can be very subjective on the surface, but when you look at it, what it really is based around is action.

02:49:52.100 Action towards the world around you, the biological life around you, and your fellow humans.

02:50:00.500 And what you end up finding is the determination of what is law and chaos is very different amongst people. You go to the Middle East and there's a different conceptualization of law and chaos in relation to morality than, say, amongst our people or amongst the Japanese.

02:50:20.480 So when you get into an absolute finite moral truth, what you're ultimately doing is bringing the argument into the field of, say, humanity as a whole.

02:50:37.200 And we are talking about maintaining moral correctness in orientation to law or order or cosmic eternal versus not going into chaos and dissipation.

02:50:55.000 So that is absolutely objective.

02:50:58.420 The idea is that you do not fall into the pathway of chaos and you try to look forward and upwards always into the cosmic order of things.

02:51:10.300 Now, there are things that fall in between and are not necessarily allocated to be simply evil.

02:51:17.340 The problem I think that arises for a lot of people is that their religions source back to Zoroastrianism and the dualism between simply good and evil. 0.96

02:51:31.300 And there's a reason why. It's because those religions are internal. 0.64

02:51:37.200 The point of it is, is it doesn't matter about everything. It matters about what you do.

02:51:44.380 And this is not a bad thing. I understand the value in this. You wake up every day to choose good or evil. That is a very strong motivator.

02:51:55.660 But in frames, that which is good and lawful and keeping order for your folk, your family, immediately scrubs those things and the decision making of those things.

02:52:15.120 And we see, I see dualistic religions battle with this all the time. I mean, we know if you defend your home from an attacker and you slay them, there's no, you know, I don't think there's any moral compunction in there in a good versus evil.

02:52:35.100 You did good. You kept order. You kept the cosmic right of things. But again, some people can test

02:52:43.760 for that. Many of the people I was in the military with came home and were really battling with the

02:52:50.900 concept of taking another human's life, releasing their soul, if you will. I don't think that

02:52:59.620 Ausatru works that way. I think that Ausatru works in the objective morality of order and chaos.

02:53:08.900 When we get into, say, that which is good or that which is bad, you can look at any religion

02:53:15.840 and its evolution through time and see that it is very subjective. The moment that the Christians 0.78

02:53:26.800 in alexandria who were uh ethnically jewish uh by genetics but they were christians and they 1.00

02:53:33.440 rip apart hippo uh hippolyta and shred her um there's like two camps to that one uh she deserved

02:53:43.040 it because i don't know god's will or something and then the other is oh those guys aren't 0.67

02:53:47.520 christians those aren't real christians so you start to get even more subjective as it goes on

02:53:54.640 So I say that our people, through proper guidance, through our gods as both examples and interacting with us, as well as that which we create, the nation, the folk, the church, that is to be built, should be built, can fall away from.

02:54:22.880 Our nations, you know, again, that's subjective. But the point is, is that they should be

02:54:28.600 going forward and upward towards that which is orderly and cosmic, that which is bigger and

02:54:37.860 everlasting and moving away from those cyclical nature. So whenever anybody, especially people

02:54:44.060 that might be of a Christian background, when they ask this, I know that it's coming from a

02:54:49.860 good place. That's what they want. They want an answer towards that which is cosmic and everlasting.

02:54:57.760 The only issue is that morality based simply on good and evil versus order and chaos

02:55:07.420 immediately starts to fall into a very subjective matter based on the actions of people.

02:55:15.060 And the reason why, say, Abrahamic faiths want to create this argument is because their entire religion is built off a choice.

02:55:25.620 Do you want to take up covenant with Yahweh or Allah or Elohim and ascend and be forgiven or be alleviated of the guilt that you have?

02:55:39.040 or burn or be in a stasis place, et cetera.

02:55:46.340 So it all kind of comes down to this choice thing

02:55:50.780 that I think is ultimately motivating

02:55:53.060 any religion that has dualism.

02:55:55.280 And this includes Zoroasterism,

02:55:57.560 but you step outside of that 0.93

02:56:00.700 and you enter into kind of our realm

02:56:03.220 of understanding of the divine.

02:56:05.080 it immediately becomes objective in relation between chaos and order. And so the only way that

02:56:16.020 that becomes subjective is if the person says, oh, well, no, no, no, I'm talking about morals,

02:56:21.040 like about people. And then it's like switching track. It's going on to a different train that

02:56:28.960 is very subjective. So morality and the way that the gods interact with the world

02:56:38.420 is based on an objective morality. Humanity, and again, based on actions and time frame,

02:56:48.540 can be very subjective. And I think that that's something that we should

02:56:54.060 be cognizant of when we have these conversations it's just the framework i'm not saying that it

02:57:03.040 isn't good to strive for the synthesis of good and order um but there is a sense of

02:57:12.980 one perhaps being very subjective like waves to a boat that is eternal or something of that nature

02:57:21.520 or that's actually kind of not the best way to look at it, but it's, it's the track to the train.

02:57:28.000 And, um, the, the idea that we kind of drag the argument into one camp, I think is motivated by

02:57:39.400 theological desire, ultimately boiling down to that single question versus in our faith,

02:57:47.960 The maintenance of order is the objective morality, but the way we go about perhaps perceiving that might be subjective amongst humans, amongst the folk, but amongst the gods, it isn't.

02:58:05.640 All of that reflection of them when they're euhemorized, when they're made humanistic, is to show that variable, to show that subjectivity.

02:58:18.460 And then beyond that, I think that God's function in their true form, beyond the titles of the furious one or the fruitful one or the strong one or the thunderous one,

02:58:30.880 Or as you go beyond these titles, I do believe that they are acting objectively, moral, in the greater understanding of everything that's going on.

02:58:44.700 So I hope that helps.

02:58:47.900 All right. Well, so again, they're murky.

02:58:55.140 I promised we will finish with the Thor portion of this, and we will tonight.

02:58:59.940 I want to get to the other questions

02:59:02.620 that we have though because we have a bunch piling up

02:59:04.780 and I also want to say

02:59:05.600 Ronald Blake has

02:59:08.480 donated $100 to the pavilion

02:59:10.720 Ronald thank you so much

02:59:12.360 and it's great to see you back on the show

02:59:14.520 I'm glad you joined us tonight

02:59:15.840 so those were awesome questions

02:59:22.880 thank you Emily we appreciate those

02:59:24.660 great views

02:59:25.280 PC

02:59:29.540 gamer iffy. Matt, how are you? I'm doing all right. I am happy to be doing this a little

02:59:37.560 bit earlier today. Yeah, so I'm doing pretty good. So, Speckinger Spawn, can you talk about

02:59:51.800 your passion for the lore and its beauty and complexity? Can you talk about that briefly,

02:59:59.120 song and i added the brief part no i cannot talk no i can't talk briefly no that's the honest answer

03:00:05.440 um will you please attempt to talk about it briefly yes i'll just say this much i think um

03:00:12.880 i grew up distant from my from iceland and i remember when i was very young my mother uh

03:00:22.960 was trying to teach me uh we had like the illustrated bible and we had all the stories

03:00:28.720 about the gods and then we got to some part in the bible about daughters trying to like

03:00:35.680 inebriate their father and it got wild i don't want to i don't want this video to get kicked

03:00:41.520 from youtube um but my mother put it down and was like yeah no more of that so we went on uh

03:00:51.360 with the stories of the gods and we also went on with um you know the mythos of other lands

03:01:00.160 and i became enamored with storytelling and so one of the key factors of being a storyteller

03:01:07.680 is having to memorize because you don't want to read from something while you're telling a story

03:01:14.000 You've got to really kind of integrate your mind and your body to the words.

03:01:19.840 And that, I think, is the key source as to where my love and my attempts to excite people when we talk about the gods, when we talk about what good they can do for us in our life, why the relationship between us is important.

03:01:39.240 it that all comes and from storytelling and strangely enough i um i remember in high school

03:01:48.100 i did a diversity kind of project that it was foisted on me from social studies but

03:01:55.780 and i'm not complaining but i ended up getting a chance to um i had to learn from another culture

03:02:03.220 that wasn't my own and i ended up finding a native american dance and storytelling troupe

03:02:08.460 And I learned, like, I learned a Lakota horse-stealing song, and I learned some stories from the Seneca, which are part of the Five Nations up in the New York area, and I learned from their storytellers.

03:02:26.300 Did you learn a Nubian bike-stealing song?

03:02:34.060 No, I'm sure that's out on some popular record. 0.94

03:02:38.460 No, no. And it was very interesting to their take on relations between people, especially the East Coast Native Americans, where they had their very strong opinions.

03:02:53.260 And it's not so much, I would say, the typical opinion that people might think Native Americans have.

03:02:59.360 It might be different out west, but on the east coast, they were very, very clear about where they stood in relation to other people, and they were free to do that.

03:03:12.520 It was shocking to me at the time because I wasn't wrestling with ethnicity and race as a kid, but they were very, very clear about where they stood.

03:03:21.860 And the fact that they allowed me in to learn from them kind of says something about their orientations.

03:03:30.480 But it was kind of one of the first times I got to see folkishness in a group.

03:03:39.740 And it shaped, not completely, I still battled with concepts for a very long time.

03:03:48.180 But the storytelling aspect, making the poems and the stories visceral, is where a lot of that comes from.

03:04:02.660 All right, there you have it.

03:04:04.740 And that was suitably abbreviated.

03:04:07.720 Thank you for that, Spawn.

03:04:08.720 Also, I didn't know that you had like a borderline pretendian phase.

03:04:13.400 That's cool.

03:04:14.600 I wasn't pretending.

03:04:15.380 I was forced to go there.

03:04:17.180 just playing with you as an outside round eye pale-faced guest um they were very hospitable

03:04:25.180 too though they were really good people i enjoyed especially the seneca hospitality um

03:04:36.940 pretend

03:04:40.300 all right so next one

03:04:42.300 are there known instances where jotun magic is wheelful instead of deceptive or sneaky

03:04:52.500 oh dropping the wheelful

03:04:54.640 keeping it wheeled spawn go for it absolutely uh first off

03:05:01.380 uh the title jotnar and what that implies in in the spectrum of good or of good order cosmic order

03:05:11.840 and bad, you know, evil chaos. I think it's pretty safe to say that there was some misconceptions

03:05:21.100 by Snorri's time. And a lot of times don't, it's not of the Aesir, you know, Yotnar,

03:05:33.820 and that's not necessarily bad, but it was just, again, we see the worship of, say,

03:05:40.540 Nerthus in Tacitus' Germania. And then we have the kind of Jotnar placement of Yard.

03:05:51.420 And that's why I have in the classification placed Yard as an Austvinir, particularly because she

03:06:02.060 gives birth to Aesir, and that brings me to the example of willfulness. There is a Austvenyr who 0.87

03:06:12.860 is often kind of looked over, and it is because of her good graces that help Lord Thor fight

03:06:24.520 against the forces of chaos. So we see this where the Jotnar, there are levels, some of them

03:06:32.880 in the Utgard, some of them in the deep and entrenched sense, will not leave and will hold 0.91

03:06:39.980 the death of Ymir against the gods in a consistent sense. Obviously, there are the Jotnar that Lord 0.99

03:06:48.880 Rothen descends from. So we're not talking about like different people. Um, but Gríðr. Gríðr is

03:06:59.740 a perfect example. She's mentioned as, uh, riding a wolf. So now we're getting into kind of

03:07:07.860 just, uh, bad guy territory as far as, as the stories go. Um, her name has been utilized as

03:07:17.580 a kenning for wolves and for axes. But Gríðr is an Austvenyr that is deeply connected to the earth,

03:07:27.400 as there are multiple facets of the earth, just like there's multiple facets of the heavenly

03:07:31.960 realm. And her name means contentiousness and conflict. And she helps Lord Thor when he doesn't

03:07:42.840 have his hammer. She gives him the iron rod. I did it in the mural to show. Sometimes it's

03:07:53.400 translated as a staff, other times as a baton or a club. So she gives him the iron rod that he

03:08:02.400 then places underneath the earth to look like a mound. And that I think is very interesting. And

03:08:10.540 And then as Getrov and all of the Jotunar who are looking for Thor without his hammer pass by, and then he's able to slay them with that. 1.00

03:08:26.940 So I think that's one of the first times. 0.96

03:08:31.200 And then later, she ends up birthing one of our holy house.

03:08:38.440 And I think that that really does make that connective point, that a Jotun becomes Austvenir when they transcend certain things, whether it's through marriage, childbirth.

03:08:55.160 Aid is different. I mean, obviously we have Eir and Raun, and they are kept in check through oath binding. 0.92

03:09:05.660 But again, the cauldron at the center of the ocean, the primordial place in Midgard that needs to be kept in check, it is the center.

03:09:16.940 There are things in the ocean that extend all the way back to the time of Ymir.

03:09:23.080 so the gods specifically pressed and locked that plane of existence on our world

03:09:33.560 through oath binding not necessarily that just ayer and raun are being beneficial um but then this

03:09:41.960 you know from them to fully beneficial whether it's uh obviously uh grither is fully beneficial

03:09:50.520 So Skavi came to the gods from the middle realm seeking revenge, but was turned in understanding of the eternal nature.

03:10:04.000 When she saw her father's eyes take crest in the heavens, that is the demonstration that the gods are making to her about how they keep eternal order and that the chthonic and the chaotic that is up and down and constantly kind of pulling sideways.

03:10:27.120 There's never a chance of this kind of stability.

03:10:33.180 That's when she knew, and she joined the gods.

03:10:38.940 So we're going to see.

03:10:41.220 We've got questions still, and we've got another passage that we're going to read, just the one more.

03:10:46.480 So we may go a little bit later tonight.

03:10:48.540 think one of the things that is is you looking magic

03:11:00.540 willful to the icer ever is a different question or is a slightly altered version of our look

03:11:11.260 yotnar beneficial to the ex student something and i think it's easier to answer the second

03:11:17.740 than the first surely there are times where uh yotnar are not inherently evil or bad or

03:11:25.500 malevolent they are other they are outside of the inner yard and that comes with a deep

03:11:34.780 different other magic other magic seems very heavily involved in illusion and in a disorienting

03:11:47.260 way because it is so other it is so outside of but yeah i think that certainly um there are

03:11:56.220 beneficial relationships with yutnan amongst the icer in deep lore there's one other thing too i

03:12:03.740 I just wanted to mention that sometimes the magic of the Yotnar, much like the gods, it isn't explicit.

03:12:12.580 The holy gods in heaven could not dissect Lord Balder and Nana from them.

03:12:24.380 And what it ended up requiring was a Yotnar. 0.92

03:12:28.840 and so the magic of this moment really is about that separation the separation needed to happen 0.56

03:12:35.900 as his holy soul needed to go elsewhere separated from the above um to reside in the land of the

03:12:46.120 dead and at his funeral hieroken the the uh giantess who shows up on the wolf with with

03:12:55.340 the reins of snakes and she's the one that pushes balder out his body his pyre and what i read from

03:13:06.860 that when i when i hear these things and i try to think about them is that the the connectivity

03:13:13.420 between the gods is so strong as they have shared in the holy light that is the golden and have

03:13:20.540 moved forward their fates together um they couldn't separate easily so they needed an outside

03:13:30.380 source that could have easily said no let him rot amongst you but she didn't she separated

03:13:41.820 and created that point so that the gods could move on and that fate could continue

03:13:48.700 very very powerful um and i think it was a great move on both her part and the holy god's part

03:13:56.460 of allowing that situation so next up is in the afa is uh utgarth the locus also utgard loci

03:14:09.020 yes like locus as in the greek word yeah it's a character from saxogrammaticus

03:14:17.660 guess oh the ship is it was a ship right no it's a it's oh it's a guy and it's uthgar

03:14:25.980 bulky um yeah it's the latin equivalency of the norse uthgardo um

03:14:39.100 guest today norm is really interesting it is very challenging to figure out what to get out of it

03:14:45.420 it's so very humorized it's so very fanciful and different but it's also

03:14:56.220 really cool and it surprises me when I find a lot of people so Svan has been

03:15:03.060 out so true much longer than I have and back in our day everyone read the

03:15:09.980 guessed it enormously.

03:15:11.860 It seems in modern times, it's largely forgotten.

03:15:16.480 And that's unfortunate.

03:15:17.480 I think it's really interesting, but it's

03:15:20.000 very hard to figure out how to merge that with the more,

03:15:28.480 I don't know.

03:15:30.660 Don't judge me for saying so.

03:15:32.120 I don't know a better word.

03:15:33.080 More authentic pieces of our lore.

03:15:36.360 But I think it adds a lot of little flavor and context

03:15:39.980 think it's i like it i don't think it is as authoritative as the icelandic sources

03:15:47.900 um but yeah that character is the same character um but one of the guys i was gonna say it's very

03:15:55.020 interesting because uh saxo grammaticus was very uh he was a latin a latin boo he he loved uh

03:16:05.180 a lot of that so i wonder too if the choice of that the decision to go away from loki to locus

03:16:13.100 which means locality in latin so utgard locus literally means outer guard location

03:16:22.700 that's interesting i don't know i'm i'm writing a note down i want to go look at that

03:16:26.780 absolutely um the nordic turtle first thank you it's been a pleasure to have you in the chat

03:16:37.340 tonight you have led a lot of the discussion in there and it's great to have you um in the chat

03:16:44.060 room and listening to the show i'm glad you stopped by can i ask how y'all are towards more

03:16:51.100 leftist identifying folks uh for fam so far though i'm liking what i see but i want to ask about it

03:17:01.100 here's the deal

03:17:05.980 explicitly

03:17:09.340 there is not a political test to be part of the afa

03:17:13.660 and there is certainly not a political test to be in the chat room of this show

03:17:18.140 the keeping it a buck as the kids would say answer is a little bit more detailed

03:17:27.440 as far as people in the audience of this chat literally and i mean this this isn't just saying

03:17:35.700 something nice to be pc i mean this anybody is welcoming the chat that's going to be respectful

03:17:41.920 whatever their questions might have are going to be strange and different and something that maybe

03:17:47.340 the rest of us who share a common worldview wouldn't think of and i think those are awesome

03:17:53.020 and it enhances the program and i would genuinely welcome anybody to be in our chat as long as they

03:17:58.860 are respectful and not disruptive as far as being a member of the afa

03:18:07.740 i realize that the modern political dichotomy of left and right is imprecise

03:18:17.340 Certainly, members of the AFA tend to be more right-leaning in the traditional understanding of what that means.

03:18:27.420 If you lean more left on certain things, it doesn't necessarily disqualify you, but I think it does make your situation harder, and I think you'll be in the minority on a lot of things.

03:18:45.040 I wouldn't say I wouldn't let that stop you but I mean know that

03:18:53.080 our political stances are shaped by our worldview and by our religious stances

03:19:01.060 and those tend to skew more right but you are absolutely welcome again there's so much nuance

03:19:10.300 it's hard to say what that is if your particular brand of leftism runs afoul of core principles

03:19:17.740 then no but if you can agree with all of our core principles and still find yourself

03:19:23.980 politically to the left to some degree you're welcome to work that out through membership

03:19:30.000 with us and again you're going to have an uphill battle with some discussions i'm sure amongst

03:19:38.780 folks but again i and i really do mean that yeah your core values have to fit a more traditionalist

03:19:46.220 worldview than i typically associate with leftists but there's not a political requirement

03:19:55.020 in the austral folk assembly and you do have a variety of political stances

03:20:02.140 forgive the abrahamic illusion but the devil's in the details on that

03:20:05.900 i was going to say we kind of have a tendency to fit the third position between and again it

03:20:16.020 depends on governance versus uh say whole wholeness of the people you know it's like

03:20:24.060 what that means i'm sure it means different things to different people and if you were a 1990s

03:20:30.140 democrat been probably just fine in a lot of places there's a lot of stuff so it really does

03:20:37.460 matter and again the core values that affect that are going to be the thing that makes the difference

03:20:42.860 um matt do you think there is there could be a second hop in southern california we don't have

03:20:48.340 the first hop in southern california but i assume you're wondering if there could be more than one

03:20:52.120 in california second part is or is it just one per state no at the end of the day i would love

03:20:58.080 as many hops as possible realistically with five hops in the whole world more than one

03:21:05.440 half in a state would take some convincing but california is one of those states that's very

03:21:12.880 very wrong um i would say that the distance between a half between odin's off and like a

03:21:20.560 los angeles or a san diego based off is probably as far away as gray's off and thor's off or as

03:21:30.400 thor's off and york's off so i would absolutely consider a southern california some things need

03:21:37.600 to be met there though we have historically had problems in southern california we need people

03:21:43.520 to step up to be a full builder there to gather people together and meet regularly with other afa

03:21:50.080 members and eventually to become a gophe or a githia we need that solid foundation in place

03:21:57.360 for that to be a viable option but that could absolutely happen and i would love to see that

03:22:04.400 happen i know we have a guy that's a good friend of mine in las vegas that's politicking for a

03:22:10.720 vegas hof that would be awesome we got people who'd love to have an arizona hof but getting

03:22:16.320 off closer to southern california is very doable it would just take some consistency and some

03:22:22.800 steady moving forward if you'd like to be part of that process please let us know and we'd love to

03:22:27.840 have your help to get there before we go on to the next one as a producer we have to have a behind

03:22:33.680 the scenes sneak peek all right if it fits it sits behind the scenes they fits therefore they

03:22:43.200 sits he barely he barely fits because he's getting fat ah so there you go that is in fact behind the

03:22:51.660 scenes our next uh-oh uh-oh here he comes here he comes hello you are obese um ah look at the

03:23:01.000 obesity get that out of here yeah why does the chunky one sit in the smaller box there you go

03:23:06.320 you'll have more box options if you decrease the obese um so uh this is this is the one that's

03:23:15.400 coming up that's and please don't take my answer to this to be flippant i don't intend it that way

03:23:22.940 um from sherwood i often find myself falling back on neoplatonism as a tentative guide to

03:23:30.440 help traverse the metaphysics of our lord do you ever think there will be a codified germanic

03:23:38.860 metaphysical canon

03:23:40.080 i don't even know what that means in the way that will satisfy the people that request that kind of 0.90

03:23:54.140 thing i find that masturbatory and navel-gazing

03:24:03.660 i don't claim to be an expert on neoplatonism but it seems like all too much getting lost in your own 0.81

03:24:13.740 strange

03:24:16.360 philosophizing

03:24:18.480 and it seems very

03:24:20.580 inorganic

03:24:22.260 and distant

03:24:24.660 from

03:24:26.840 how I practice

03:24:29.080 Ousitru

03:24:29.760 now everyone is wired

03:24:33.160 different, some people are wired

03:24:34.820 in a much more analytical way

03:24:36.500 and I understand that

03:24:37.540 I truly don't mean

03:24:39.760 disrespect on it

03:24:40.920 but when people try to tell me

03:24:43.680 about Neoplatonism and philosophical concepts and stuff, it all just seems like word salad

03:24:51.480 gobbledygook. I believe to my core that Ausatru is about relationships. It is about the warmth

03:25:02.680 of connection amongst beings

03:25:07.860 that we learn from infancy

03:25:11.420 that transcends words.

03:25:15.200 A child to their mother or their father

03:25:17.860 doesn't contemplate the works of Plato.

03:25:23.400 They reach out to someone

03:25:25.760 that they recognize as kin,

03:25:29.200 that's warm, that they love.

03:25:31.060 they give them a hug

03:25:33.540 they are received warmly

03:25:35.240 in a loving embrace by family

03:25:37.180 nobody stops to ponder

03:25:39.640 the first form

03:25:41.820 or those

03:25:43.520 concepts

03:25:44.360 Alistair is built on

03:25:47.460 relationship, on the sharing of

03:25:49.480 gifts, on the devoted worship

03:25:51.840 of 0.90

03:25:53.240 man to Iser

03:25:55.500 and on the

03:25:56.720 paternal

03:26:01.000 and hopefully loving relationship

03:26:03.780 between Aesir and Arian Mankind.

03:26:07.400 It's built out of sharing. 0.63

03:26:09.120 It's built out of devotion.

03:26:10.480 It's built out of love.

03:26:11.820 And it's built out of relationships.

03:26:15.420 When it is based on

03:26:18.220 very teased out,

03:26:22.160 overly mentally laborious

03:26:24.220 philosophical constructs,

03:26:27.600 often that is done at the expense

03:26:29.780 Expense of organic connectivity that is self-evident in existence.

03:26:37.760 Any meaningful relationship in my life is not done because I have contemplated it and find it to meet a philosophical rubric of some sort.

03:26:53.120 It's because I, as a person, care about the person that I am in a relationship with,

03:27:01.760 be it a friend, be it a family member, be it my wife, be it any of those things,

03:27:10.460 be it the guy at the grocery store.

03:27:12.840 I connect with them as a man to another man, a man to a woman, a man to a child,

03:27:19.320 a man to a member of my family or a man to these gods but i don't do it in terms of function and

03:27:27.320 form and that that approach to religion and divinity is so very alien to how i connect with

03:27:38.760 my gods i'm not the one to approach that or answer that in a way that the people who fancy themselves

03:27:48.520 neoplatonists are going to find acceptable yet i'm very confident that i've built

03:27:57.480 a relationship with the gods that is very beneficial to me and that i

03:28:03.400 believe and that i have to hope with my whole being is very acceptable to the icer

03:28:11.480 but again i don't want them to find me fitting in the form and function

03:28:17.560 i want them to be proud of me as a man and to look as at me as one of their distant grandchildren

03:28:25.080 in a position of power who has done them well and done them proud that doesn't conform to

03:28:33.400 my understanding of neoplatonism in a straightforward way and if i'm missing it

03:28:39.160 because my brain just doesn't work that way my apologies to you but i find that very much missing

03:28:46.760 the point and more than just missing the point i worry that that way of approaching it

03:28:55.320 distances the familial connection that ought to be built by a devoted relationship between

03:29:05.720 sentient beings and I say that if your brain works there's a lot of different ways that people

03:29:17.120 relate to the world and the way their brain works and if that's how you are wired I don't

03:29:21.780 need to be insulting it just is so very foreign to how I am wired that I don't know how to conceive

03:29:29.360 it in a way that doesn't seem cold and impersonal and i think the personal connection through the

03:29:37.520 gift cycle and through devotional worship is the cornerstone of oustertribility i hope that

03:29:43.920 approaches an answer to the question spawn do you have more that you would add uh yeah i think

03:29:50.320 an explanation as to why you and i would probably have kind of that cold response is

03:29:55.520 is that Neoplatonism, I think, is very interesting.

03:30:00.840 I like delving into it, but it is very axial,

03:30:04.220 and it expands the gods that we have a relationship with

03:30:10.320 into metaphysical forms.

03:30:14.840 And so what you end up having is,

03:30:17.580 these are the gods of my people.

03:30:19.600 They created, I carry their breath in my lungs.

03:30:25.520 but really it you know this god represents uh general consciousness

03:30:34.560 uh i see connectivity i think that there is promise in looking at neoplatonism

03:30:45.040 kind of like a road map it's not driving the road it's not experiencing the places on the sides of

03:30:52.800 the road but it is a map that you can explore ideas as you build a relationship with the gods

03:31:01.840 if that makes sense it's it's you are becoming intimate with the road you're becoming intimate

03:31:06.960 with the country that you're traveling in as you travel but the road map there gives you

03:31:13.040 precepts and ideas that you might want to focus on or look at um i think that on a positive sense

03:31:21.440 the introduction of um the non-willful was really important especially back then

03:31:30.980 because it was a bridging gap between pagans and christians in the time of the mediterranean

03:31:37.520 and a lot of christians don't ever want to talk about this because rabbi yeshua is just

03:31:43.320 turbo awesome but if you look at uh was it augustus the or is it augustus the apostate

03:31:52.060 or justinian the apostate and his conversion julian it gets a little like a card shuffle there

03:32:02.420 uh where he uh he goes back to the faith of his ancestors in the mediterranean area and they

03:32:11.980 Really don't like that kind of talk. What you end up getting is this whole time frame is this big battle. I mentioned her earlier, Hippolyta and her father and their connections to Neoplatonism.

03:32:28.700 So this was a time apparently the Christians in Alexandria were just not vibing very well with Neoplatonism.

03:32:36.520 And I guess it's because it hadn't affected their form of Christianity by that time. 0.74

03:32:41.480 But then, you know, you look at Neoplatonism now in relation to Christianity, and a lot of Christians are like, yeah, it's freaking, it's cool. 0.92

03:32:49.920 And, you know, or worse, oh, yeah, the pagans would have never had these ideas if we hadn't, I don't know, Christian them in some way, shape or form by proximity, which is ridiculous.

03:33:06.040 But it did create some points that are clearly preexistent in our religion. One of them, of course, being that there are divine powers or divine emanations that don't have willful intent.

03:33:26.400 It's not that, you know, I'm jealous because you were created or you got to worship me all the time.

03:33:31.740 No, it's emanation. It is part of the system and it's continually giving out without kind of concepts of good or evil, but just giving out.

03:33:47.520 And I think that that's really good because that does underlie some of the foundational works when we look at the tripartite of Muspelheim, Niflheim, and Gnungagap, or when you look at Adunla and Emir and Yggdrasil.

03:34:06.620 these points are we you know some of them are willful some of them are not and i think that

03:34:13.720 that's a cool precept that some people get but if i was to talk personally it kind of is almost

03:34:22.880 akin to philosophically turning the gods into archetypes and that will not get a positive result

03:34:32.460 out of people who have had tangible relationships with the with the gods so

03:34:40.700 then you start end up kind of stepping on on on those toes and uh that's why i think generally

03:34:49.540 that the responses you will get can be varied and sometimes cold about it uh our folk especially

03:34:59.680 those of the gothar and of the church in in leadership have had personal experiences

03:35:07.060 personal relationship to diminish but if it's done in a sense of let's look at all considerations of

03:35:17.180 things um aspects um linguistics like treating it just like linguistics sure there are many

03:35:26.400 interesting things to talk about but at the end of the day we circle back around to these are the

03:35:32.420 gods of my people these are the gods of my family these are the gods of me and their their actions

03:35:40.260 are interconnected to me and the lines of my people and they they don't want to see me pontificate

03:35:47.380 about archetypes they want me to act they want me to be a hero they want me to create

03:35:53.920 weird, to create fate or law and to build and, and go forward and conquer the next mountain and

03:36:04.740 cross the next sea. Once you start getting into that, it, I don't know. I think it doesn't

03:36:11.340 dissolve away. It just kind of, some folks just end up moving past it. There is a video and I was

03:36:17.280 trying to look it up for anyone who might be interested in and this is lightly addressed is

03:36:23.920 um the foundations of folkishness um is a really good video on youtube

03:36:33.580 that i think encapsulates what i've been trying to say in the minutes and it does it in a few

03:36:40.760 seconds great video um and i'm trying to see i can't for some strange reason i can't see the uh

03:36:52.600 the original poster i think it's at xqfonte

03:37:01.960 but yeah a found foundations of folkishness check it out i think it covers some of that as well

03:37:10.760 Oh, you're muted.

03:37:26.880 I'm just double checking to make sure I wasn't alone.

03:37:35.760 Oh.

03:37:36.240 did i lose audio can you hear me oh wow was i was i muted this whole time yeah i i even

03:37:48.680 said like you're muted i didn't well that's terrible ah

03:37:54.360 you look like you were having fun though

03:37:59.680 working on my eastland school i said yeah but i so i ran it through google translate but i

03:38:17.280 understood 50 of the sentence so i was happy about that spawn as a professional barber

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03:39:25.440 just it is really good it that would be number one leaps and bounds so how often do you use that

03:39:34.320 like how often does one apply a beard balm well it depends on if you shower in the morning or at

03:39:39.680 night um if you say you shower at night uh in the morning you want to kind of just douse your head

03:39:47.520 with some warm water and maybe your beard then uh dry until it's lightly damp apply

03:39:56.000 or sorry apply your beard foam first before you do any pomades you put your beard foam in

03:40:01.760 and work it through and it might actually foam up a little bit and you want to kind of get it

03:40:06.960 through comb it down or do any uh stretching if you have a beard comb uh it protects your hair

03:40:13.200 from the heat of the beard comb if you do a blow dryer you can do that too i don't really do that

03:40:18.800 i just use a round uh brush and i that trains it for me and then once i'm done pomade in the hair

03:40:28.400 and ready to go to work there you have it um hi so it's fine we wanted dibs on this so behold i

03:40:39.760 give you dibs uh a person in the chat i think we should honor emir yggdrasil and adamla as we do

03:40:51.440 the other gods i feel they are regularly left out you have under that you want to answer it first

03:40:58.240 so what would you want to say in regards to that okay one of the things i think the last sentence

03:41:05.440 is a big teller. I feel that they are regularly left out. There is a deep, compassionate side to

03:41:13.780 femininity. I don't even need to see that your name, the lady, Trejo Wirtha, the lady part. I

03:41:26.140 don't need it. You have a compassionate soul and women are, the femininity of that is I don't want 1.00

03:41:31.940 people to be left out. I want them to be included. And I want them to, you know, feel that

03:41:39.180 connectivity. One of the interesting things, though, is to consider, I spoke about it with

03:41:46.740 willfulness and cognizance in being willful. You know, we know about Yggdrasil being eaten

03:41:58.080 at multiple angles and that the Nornir are watering the roots. So it's under assault 0.92

03:42:05.300 at all times. And it doesn't seem to react. It doesn't seem to hold those indications as

03:42:14.260 being bad or good. So willful, I would say absolutely receptive, but I don't know about

03:42:22.860 willful. Um, I think that honoring something that is not willful is good in relation to, um,

03:42:33.600 consideration. You are looking at big picture. You are trying to remind your folk, the gods that you

03:42:42.220 hold certain things very sacred, and you are willing to give piety to the elements of that

03:42:51.320 ecosystem i i don't think that's bad just don't virtue signal but don't do it just because you

03:42:57.720 want to show off to the gods kind of thing but when we talk about emir emir as emir ends

03:43:06.920 he is slain but we know nothing in the ecosystem of our cosmology ends lord balder doesn't end when

03:43:16.200 he is slain but moves so when emir and his body is left the soul goes somewhere i believe that

03:43:27.560 that is the creation of that serpent that holds the the uh malice to break the root of yggdrasil

03:43:38.680 to stop the circulatory system of the cosmos so there is that just that drive and need obviously

03:43:47.080 too um and most people like it's not said explicitly that um bor and bestla they're never

03:43:59.480 mentioned again and there is no definitive sense that they are just simply gone but i do believe

03:44:07.480 that when we talk about the divine beings that they do move in different senses we see this in

03:44:14.600 other uh religious forms from arian branches so i'll just say like as an example uh gaia and and

03:44:22.600 or uh chronos in the greek sense where there's a transition from when they are active to when they

03:44:31.080 are not i don't think that they're inert i just think that they become something different

03:44:37.480 So I think that Ymir or Nidagr are not necessarily of our place.

03:44:51.560 And then with Adumla, Adumla is often overlooked for what she truly is, the feminine creative power that is, that sourced the Aesir.

03:45:05.960 And I think that that's really powerful. Most people, when you read the stories might say, oh, well, when the flood of Ymir's blood came, she drowned. And I've even heard an extension of that where she drowned, but her spirit became, and her body became Vanaheim because of the connection to the natural world and to life and abundance in the ever giving sense.

03:45:32.660 um and i i'm not uh disputing or or what have you but what i am saying is is that there's clear

03:45:40.760 points in which they cease to be as they were and have moved into what they are except for one and

03:45:48.460 that's yggdrasil yggdrasil remains until ragnarok but um if you go about it as giving honor

03:45:57.320 uh and showing the folk your ancestors and the gods that you are thankful for something

03:46:05.120 um truly thankful then honoring them in except for emir i mean except for maybe the shaping by

03:46:14.920 the gods but it gets a little dicey there when you start going into adversarial forces but

03:46:20.960 And you are thankful for these things, like being thankful for a wind in the sail, being thankful for calm sea, being thankful for stillness and peace and telling the gods that you're thankful for that.

03:46:37.720 I don't see anything wrong with that at all.

03:46:41.080 Just be careful when you get into the Ymir. 1.00

03:46:44.140 So Ymir is chaos.

03:46:47.800 We are order versus chaos. 0.94

03:46:49.620 Ymir was slain and dismembered to destroy primordial chaos and reshape it into order.

03:47:03.060 Ymir is on the bad guy's team, for lack of a better word, and is in animosity to the 0.96

03:47:11.620 Aesir, therefore we shouldn't worship him here. 1.00

03:47:17.420 Yggdrasil is a tree.

03:47:19.620 there's no sense that there is a consciousness

03:47:25.360 or something to receive your worship.

03:47:30.420 So acknowledging its existence,

03:47:34.780 like, hey, I'm real thankful that Yggdrasil's here. 1.00

03:47:38.620 Hail Yggdrasil.

03:47:40.300 That's not offensive,

03:47:42.520 but it's not worshipful

03:47:44.060 in that it doesn't interact in the gift cycle.

03:47:47.140 And the gift cycle is the key to our worship. 1.00

03:47:50.840 We have no sense or no reason to believe that a Domla is conscious 0.98

03:47:57.480 or like doing a conscious entity that engages in a gift cycle 0.88

03:48:05.340 and receives your worship and blesses you because of it

03:48:11.940 or builds a relationship with you.

03:48:13.940 The point of worship is either to pay a debt, to go through what's owed to something,

03:48:29.440 or to perpetuate a relationship through the gift cycle.

03:48:35.020 The entities that you mentioned can't participate in that.

03:48:39.560 All of them are pre-consciousness.

03:48:44.880 One of them is not a personality.

03:48:48.600 It is a tree, a web of connectivity.

03:48:53.260 It's like when Christians talk about Mother Earth. 0.72

03:48:58.340 They don't really think Mother Earth is a thing.

03:49:00.820 They just mean nature is cool.

03:49:03.300 Yes, nature is cool.

03:49:05.560 They don't believe it has a personality,

03:49:08.140 So it's kind of just a statement of appreciation, something exists more than it is an act of worship.

03:49:19.040 And to be thankful for Adomla or for Yggdrasil isn't a bad thing to be thankful for or to acknowledge your orientation towards.

03:49:35.340 but it's not a devotional relationship 0.93

03:49:39.100 like we have with the Aesir

03:49:40.620 where they hear our prayer

03:49:41.900 to where they accept our offering

03:49:43.460 and they exchange their blessings for it.

03:49:46.260 So it's a very different order of thing.

03:49:51.640 Working through here,

03:49:53.600 from Austin, good evening,

03:49:55.000 all hope it's well.

03:49:57.140 For food prayers,

03:49:58.760 I often hear the speaker invoke

03:50:00.540 the name of Lord Odin, Thor, Balder, and Frey.

03:50:05.340 uh why those specific four thank you for all you do i probably do that most often

03:50:13.740 i do that because that's what steve did literally it's as simple as that i think invoking

03:50:21.340 any of the ice here are valuable to do that if i am doing a meal blessing at a hof

03:50:29.100 i always make sure i also invoke the god of that hoth because i think that's respectful

03:50:39.020 but we do that because there's four positions in the hammer right in the names of odin balder

03:50:46.140 freya and thor it's four positions you can mix it up if you want to the reason that i do it is very

03:50:55.420 much simply to carry on the tradition that our founder Stephen McAllen put forth and kind of

03:51:00.220 how he does it. It's not wrong to add different ones. You can mix and match if you'd like.

03:51:07.100 Those ones are just a nice nod to our legacy in the Ask True Folk Assembly that Steve initiated.

03:51:18.460 What is your preferred doneness for steak and why is anything past rare wrong?

03:51:23.740 wrong. You're mistaken, Austin. So I think medium rare is the way to go. I think most

03:51:31.520 experts would agree with me that medium rare is the way to go. I appreciate me. So here's

03:51:41.420 kind of a side thing, and I'm sure there's a culinary term for this. I need certain elements

03:51:48.720 for me to be able to taste things i think gordon ramsay talked about this with salt like

03:52:00.560 salt makes things taste like themselves adding salt to something in a moderate amount

03:52:08.960 brings out the flavor of the thing you're adding the salt to certainly to my palate

03:52:14.080 Also, I find that with sugar or, you know, in my case, often artificial sweetener, if

03:52:21.840 I drink coffee and it doesn't have sweetener in it, I don't taste stuff.

03:52:27.860 It's hard for me to taste the flavor of what I'm having, but some sugar or I don't, I don't

03:52:37.040 use sugar because it just seems like a waste of calories, but like stevia or whatever fake

03:52:43.400 sugar I use magically brings out flavor and oh wow this tastes like coffee now it like it adds

03:52:51.320 context for the flavor to come through I find with me like I can eat completely rare steak

03:52:58.780 but it doesn't taste like anything to me I like what a rareness does but I need a certain amount

03:53:09.740 of cook on it before I can taste the beefiness of it. Medium rare gives me the best of both

03:53:17.360 worlds on that. That is my take. Svon, what is your preference? My preference is medium

03:53:25.560 rare. Also went to culinary school. It is the most preferential. But I understand different

03:53:38.000 things for different reasons. If you're doing say like steak tartare, uh, I just, I understand

03:53:45.240 that each recipe has its own thing and it just gets variable when you do that. Um, I'm not a

03:53:51.500 big fan obviously of anything over medium. Uh, another really interesting thing you can do if

03:53:56.980 you're, uh, especially when you're in kitchens, the idea of, um, you know, a lot of folks don't

03:54:03.800 necessarily touch stakes but you can hit a stake with like a fork or something and you can kind of

03:54:11.520 get an idea based off of um your fingers and your uh the pad of your hand here um and the way it

03:54:21.180 would be is this is rare and medium i mean uh medium rare medium and well done and as you do

03:54:30.960 this, this part tightens up and it gives you an idea of the firmness of the steak as you're

03:54:36.660 cooking it. So you don't have to cut into it. Um, but I mean, it's different preferences for,

03:54:42.860 for everyone. Um, young children don't, you don't usually go rare or medium rare because they can't

03:54:49.380 chew it. Uh, they're still trying to figure out things or you cutting it small enough, but you

03:54:55.080 don't want it to be a choking hazard. So I'm, I'm just more realistic about it. My preference is

03:55:00.120 medium rare because exactly what i was here ago they said it's just enough to release that flavor

03:55:05.900 i don't like the black and blue where it's scorched on the outside now tuna i love that way but not

03:55:12.540 steak um so i think it's it's it's better to approach it with uh your own preference and

03:55:22.860 uh you know when i see people just really overcook steaks it it's more or less like

03:55:29.220 a tragedy but maybe they like it that way who knows there's other people that would say if you

03:55:34.920 sauce if you use a sauce on your steak um you're wrong but then again what if you use salt what

03:55:42.440 if you use pepper what if you use onion and thyme and and butter and all that stuff it just spirals

03:55:48.320 into crazy so is order a permanent achievement or is it something that must be continually renewed

03:56:02.240 so it's fun because you are claiming some dibs on some things i'm jumping in first on certain stuff

03:56:08.200 victory never sleeps

03:56:13.060 that is the theme of all of these things

03:56:16.520 no the nature of our reality

03:56:20.260 is stagnancy leads to

03:56:23.960 entropy, entropy leads to chaos

03:56:26.460 order is something that needs to be vigilantly

03:56:29.980 maintained, refreshed

03:56:31.920 upheld

03:56:34.660 we are like sharks

03:56:38.280 if we stop swimming we die

03:56:40.640 that is the nature of

03:56:43.580 our holy symbols

03:56:46.180 you can see that in

03:56:49.160 the progression of the sun and the moon 0.99

03:56:53.220 being ever chased by skull and haiti 0.95

03:56:55.960 one step ahead of the 0.99

03:56:59.380 maw of the wolf

03:57:01.040 you have to constantly move forward

03:57:04.640 or else you're being devoured by chaos imagery I think that's one of the core

03:57:09.560 roots of the swastika as a symbol is it implies rotation everything in our

03:57:16.460 cosmos we know rotates the earth rotates the galaxies rotate we rotate around the

03:57:24.080 Sun movement is essential you have to be moving forward you have to be moving

03:57:28.880 ahead or you're being pulled down and backwards so I think that order needs to

03:57:34.280 be vigilantly maintained it isn't a it is a direction not a destination because i don't

03:57:42.740 think you can sit on it and stay there and that's a big part of the theme of what we do

03:57:47.780 swan do you have something to add to that i was going to say it's just very interesting to look

03:57:52.940 at the etymology of the words and um words have meaning and their source and where they come from

03:58:01.040 and words can have multiple meanings but when you go back to the indo-european it's per which means

03:58:09.040 through and menace is connected to longevity so it's like once you go through a threshold

03:58:19.200 you have to maintain it so it's a beckoning to action i think that's what permanence

03:58:24.560 in this in the state of order is is a beckoning to action to consistently um maintain it and

03:58:35.740 it falls when people fall to chaos when they no longer care when they no longer seek to move

03:58:43.360 forward and to maintain uh it's kind of the whole you know like uh weak men cause hard times that's

03:58:52.440 because what ends up happening is they stop. They stop either caring, paying attention, acting,

03:59:01.520 doing. There's a stop. And once that forward motion is gone, things begin to dissolve.

03:59:10.340 It's not so much, I think, a rat race or something where it's like, oh, I got to go to work. I got to

03:59:15.760 No, no, no. It's just a consistent conquering of that which diffuses the world around you. And then as you act and do things, order builds up with you and things happen and you end up, you know, you've got a job, you've got a family, you've got responsibilities, but, and everyone kind of, oh, I don't, you know, that's, they almost initially think of that as just simply being negative.

03:59:44.780 and that's that's not the case the connectivity and unity between multiple people doing that

03:59:53.020 moving forward through that threshold is order that's that's part of it is it permanent

04:00:00.460 as i was hearing what he said it's it's the passing through the threshold and the attempt

04:00:06.940 to make it and maintain it the gods show this very well in the stories as well

04:00:12.220 all right so matt could you give a show and tell for the cup you've been drinking from

04:00:18.620 so it is a eagle stein it was gifted to me by

04:00:35.980 really cool guy that i used to know that has drifted away and i'd love for him to find his

04:00:44.280 way back uh former member named marco who was from massachusetts and at a winter nights

04:00:53.520 he's gifted it to me and he said that i need an american stein and he gave me a

04:01:01.740 it's subtly painted but it's red white and blue that's an eagle

04:01:06.560 and uh i enjoy it and i was working my way through some

04:01:12.800 straw gator which is a strawberry doppelbach

04:01:18.060 it's a spoiler alert it's not very good but uh i was gonna work my way through it this evening

04:01:26.620 And I don't know why, but I figured like I would bust out my American Stein for this.

04:01:34.840 Swan, you got dibs on the next one from the Nordic Turtle. 0.92

04:01:41.040 So they straight up dropped in terms like Arian.

04:01:45.320 Does that not bother y'all or what's y'all's thoughts?

04:01:49.180 If I'm being honest, it's setting me off, but I want to know your points of view.

04:01:56.620 Okay. One, I think that's amazing that despite the emotional reaction that you might have,

04:02:04.860 you want to know more, you want to kind of gain knowledge or understanding at least

04:02:11.260 of perspective. And I think that that's something that is in short supply in this day and age. So

04:02:18.560 kudos to you. I think also too, it would be good to question why is it getting an emotional response?

04:02:24.380 But let's consider some things briefly. The usage of the word and where it comes from, the etymology. Words are really, really important and they come from somewhere. And it was certainly used before World War II.

04:02:39.520 So if that's where the emotion is coming from, that might lend towards the conceptualization that you have been taught to have an emotional conception in that sense.

04:02:56.400 But if you like, it would be like me getting enraged by proletariat or Bolshevik, just like, you know, they killed so many people.

04:03:05.780 but um looking at things from there you go back now there's a lot of people that try to say oh 0.80

04:03:14.000 it means the Iranians and they're that's true but not entirely and then we know in India that the

04:03:24.920 Araya came in and that's what they were called they were it was specifically written down so we

04:03:31.540 the araya in india and we have the iranians and the iranians um and generally people that don't

04:03:38.500 want to kind of touch the spooky a word um they kind of correlated it's like oh no the iranians

04:03:46.260 came into india and that's it but it doesn't explain the interconnectivity of the the word

04:03:55.620 in all proto-indo-european descended languages from uh a rio in the greek hellenic which we get

04:04:06.020 like aristocrat from um or uh uh the like in the gaulish sense with ire uh with ireland um or era

04:04:18.980 amongst the germans or in the nordic lands too also era meaning uh noble or honorable specifically

04:04:27.460 honorable there is kind of a shift there the biggest thing was was that in india and in europe

04:04:33.140 they stopped utilizing that word as a designation of identity in iran they didn't they made that

04:04:42.420 word, a huge part. And I think that's because they ran into one of the biggest kingdoms,

04:04:49.740 a Semitic kingdom, the Sumerians and Babylonians. And those were extremely established right south

04:04:58.920 of them. So the designation of that identity was very, very important. But in India, there was a

04:05:06.720 slow integration and in europe there was so many varied groups that the word basically fell into

04:05:14.880 the lexicon of every language meaning the same thing but not always necessarily a title um

04:05:22.920 except for like again in aristocrat but uh like there there is a branch of christianity

04:05:31.780 that rivaled Catholicism at one time called the Aryan Church,

04:05:37.280 which was based off of the teachings of Arius in Egypt.

04:05:43.400 But his name sources back to the actual meaning.

04:05:49.520 So when we look at the word, some people want us to change the spelling,

04:05:56.280 maybe say like Haryanus or Haryan.

04:06:00.420 they're trying to politically judo around it and what we're yeah as al-sirgothi says

04:06:11.240 they're cucking we're not we're being genuine in that the name the title the word has existed long

04:06:20.760 before world war ii just like uh al-sirgothi said earlier swastika people know swastika swastika 0.92

04:06:28.860 uh in the nordic branch it's often called the fee thought or the forefoot um but again utilizing

04:06:37.260 the words that people know and then saying this this has been with us far longer whether it's

04:06:47.040 four-legged or 12-legged like the like behind me um the symbol and its meaning amongst our people

04:06:55.380 around far longer than say the knee jerk reaction that we emotionally get from the word when

04:07:04.980 you know the political time that designation solely but not looking at it now there's one

04:07:13.200 other part um the reason why we are saying it is because there is this interconnectivity between

04:07:19.120 genetics and language and the, uh, the traversing of our people all over from a central source.

04:07:28.040 We don't, we, there's a lot of theories as to where that central source is. Um, and I even

04:07:33.440 believe that, uh, that the holy God Heimdall, his name is, um, referencing that place, the home

04:07:42.440 dale the home valley the home fire perhaps the the central fire whatever uh but that's where

04:07:48.940 the folk become the folk and then we spread out from there um utilizing that that word is

04:07:58.300 important that we don't relent or let one uh sense of time allocate the entirety of its meaning but

04:08:09.120 it's also a self-identifier other groups are able to do this and we are not and the spicy a word is

04:08:17.720 kind of a stance it's a it's a hill saying no i i want to self-identify my people based on an actual

04:08:25.380 historical word um and no matter how many times they try to judo around it so you know it's kind

04:08:32.000 very similar to say like um the west africans saying that they're yoruban instead of west

04:08:39.680 african is a broad term or when when you say judo around it how's that spelled or

04:08:51.600 i we all know how that that

04:08:55.920 that's hilarious sorry i didn't even think about it um again that kind of references to the concept

04:09:04.640 that there is a group of people that want you to physically react to that word without any

04:09:10.800 consideration that it has been around a lot longer than a than world war ii so i just want you to

04:09:20.160 consider that and then understand that we're not utilizing it simply uh one to be edgy and we're

04:09:28.160 not utilizing it without knowing what we're talking about but we are making a point at the same time

04:09:37.120 there is a very long and deep interconnected history to it that is important if you were to

04:09:44.400 ask, say, the genetics about the Aryans, were they all blonde-haired, blue-eyed people? No.

04:09:50.420 The Aryans were known for having lighter skin and lighter hair as a kind of point. But

04:10:00.880 it wasn't always simply just what people might think is like, you know, the blonde-haired,

04:10:07.280 blue-eyed nord those were uh evolutions of those things and arians encompasses the celts the the

04:10:18.000 hellenics or the mediterraneans the slavs the nords the germanics that is another thing the

04:10:26.000 germanic people are a group within that greater group that we believe in what we would call pan

04:10:33.360 arianism or pan uh it's not pan germanicism uh germanics is just a small group in those groups

04:10:42.160 but we're utilizing this word not flippantly and um i think if you look into the word and

04:10:50.960 research a lot of it you'll understand why we're using it and i highly recommend it

04:10:58.640 all right so i want to say a couple of things

04:11:00.720 Svon, you with your early dibs, you said most of the things I want to say, but I would

04:11:13.040 like to emphasize some of these.

04:11:16.100 So first and foremost, Nordic Turtle, you have added so much to the chat room tonight.

04:11:23.480 It's been a pleasure to have me in there.

04:11:26.440 I appreciate you asking the questions

04:11:28.540 that inquiring minds want to know.

04:11:30.740 It is refreshing.

04:11:32.980 Also, we're getting a lot of questions stacking.

04:11:35.080 This is shows running late tonight, which is fine by me.

04:11:38.000 These are good questions.

04:11:39.200 It reminds me of good old days when this was a newer podcast

04:11:43.720 and more people were asking questions.

04:11:45.440 I love that.

04:11:50.880 You're being honest and that's what we want

04:11:53.580 and you're being respectful.

04:11:56.440 I want these questions.

04:11:58.680 These questions are important.

04:12:00.960 So, we're also not ignorant and not trying to pretend.

04:12:07.520 I mentioned swastika earlier.

04:12:09.680 If you want to talk about swastika, they, like, add funny accents to it

04:12:14.280 or come up with other terms that were used to mean it. 0.90

04:12:19.320 No, I'm not trying to dodge it.

04:12:20.940 I mean, swastika, it's an ancient symbol from at least the Neolithic period.

04:12:26.440 it it predates whatever your thoughts might be about 1930s german national socialism as does

04:12:37.160 the term area in any scholastic school of europe or of the educated world up until 1938 when war

04:12:47.880 broke out between england and germany the word arian was the completely understood acceptable

04:12:56.280 term for white people and white people culture as it expanded into Asia and different parts

04:13:04.540 of the world. It didn't have any negative connotation until one country used it and

04:13:13.480 happened to be at war with other countries. It has since then taken on this whole mythos

04:13:20.400 to nerf the white race 0.99

04:13:22.940 and deprive us of pride amongst ourselves. 1.00

04:13:27.560 And I mean this.

04:13:29.300 I would never legislate, enforce, or bully 0.70

04:13:35.340 any other race of people

04:13:37.340 to not have pride in themselves or their ancestors. 0.99

04:13:41.580 Even if they were my worst enemy,

04:13:44.060 I would never do that to them.

04:13:46.280 I would never wish that upon them.

04:13:50.400 I will not accept the denial of me having pride in my ancestors.

04:13:59.400 So what I think is really important is defining ourselves by a term we choose, not by what

04:14:06.740 other people term us.

04:14:11.200 Tribes of people, racial groupings of people have traditionally chosen a name for themselves

04:14:18.360 that identifies who they are to the world our ancestors chose the word arian or whatever their

04:14:28.840 local variation of that term was i mean we are the noble people we are the people shining with nobility

04:14:37.560 as fun mentioned it's the root of era in uh germany of uh you know ireland means land of

04:14:48.680 the aryans in the exact same way that iran means land of the aryans um again iranian people

04:14:58.360 a large portion of them look very different than our ancestors certainly even more so in india

04:15:04.680 but in ancient times

04:15:08.400 that was a mark of pride

04:15:10.860 was their ancestry

04:15:12.720 to our shared ancestry

04:15:14.680 the Aryan people

04:15:16.120 it is a good and beautiful word

04:15:20.540 it doesn't mean the people

04:15:22.120 that are mean to other races of people

04:15:24.360 it doesn't mean the evil races

04:15:26.320 it means the noble people

04:15:28.920 and I'm going to use that word

04:15:32.440 because i am proud of who i am and where i come from it predates german national socialism by

04:15:40.600 thousands of years it's a good thing the only reason that we changed it was political correctness

04:15:49.240 and that's not a acceptable reason to change language and i think we see that in the world

04:15:55.400 around us and again it's nothing i would inflict upon anyone else if blacks if you could and i've

04:16:02.680 always used this as like a rule of thumb to see if i'm being fair if i could substitute white with

04:16:10.280 the word black and it'd be okay then it's okay and if i could substitute the word arian with the word

04:16:18.440 nubian and it'd be okay then it's okay and it's wrong to let other people abuse us in

04:16:26.840 a way that it's not but the self-identifier and i wrote about this so here's something

04:16:32.440 you might be interested in anybody listening to this i don't think we add it if we plug

04:16:36.600 it enough and it can throw a link in the chat but with the help of some people notably um

04:16:44.520 expecting their spawn who's on the show with me tonight i created the also treat true level

04:16:50.840 and the point of it was to be the fundamentals of our faith and what we believe and it goes over

04:16:56.440 the why we do what we do and the the real core of our belief system it's not a long thing i think

04:17:03.240 it's like 20 pages but i would encourage everybody to take a look at that because i it distills

04:17:12.440 what we believe in the most fundamentals that i could do um

04:17:18.560 but yeah it constantly is getting looked at and made sure it's good we even edited it yesterday

04:17:25.280 i went through editing it this morning um because no matter how many times i go over it i find a

04:17:33.340 typo or I find something. But anyways, my point being, not only is it linguistically a valid word,

04:17:43.880 it is scholastically valid, it is accurate, but it also is aspirational. It is a constant reminder

04:17:52.240 to rise above and be better. It is a charge to be noble, to be the noble people, for that to be a

04:18:02.440 defining characteristic of who we are, to be the best at whatever we set out to do, and to have

04:18:10.200 the dignity and character of noble men and women. And that's why I use it. And that's why I use it

04:18:16.020 as proudly and as full-throatedly as I do. So Jeffrey in Texas donated $10 towards New York's

04:18:22.820 health and $10 towards the pavilion. Thank you for that. I'm going to get back to questions,

04:18:27.440 but I'm going to do a thing because I promise we can do it and I'm going to get it out of the way,

04:18:30.960 not that it's, you know, it is important. We're going to do it, and I'll stay on as long as we

04:18:36.080 need tonight to answer the questions. But, back to the text, Gilfeginning 48. Thor rode to the sea

04:18:44.100 with Hymer. Then, said Ganglary, very mighty is Ugar-Volki, and he deals much in wiles and magic,

04:18:56.780 and his might may be seen in that he has had such henchmen as have given him prowess.

04:19:06.160 Now did Thor ever take vengeance for this?

04:19:09.420 Haur answered, it is not unknown, though one be not a scholar,

04:19:15.460 that Thor took redress for this journey, of which the tale has but now been told.

04:19:20.840 And he did not tarry at home long before he made ready for his journey so hastily

04:19:25.880 that he had with him no charity and no he goats and no retinue he went out over Midgarth in the

04:19:35.840 guise of a young lad who came one evening at twilight to a certain giant whom was called

04:19:41.860 Hynur. Thor abode as guests there overnight but at dawn Hynur arose and clothed himself

04:19:51.560 and made ready to row to see a fishing.

04:19:55.400 Then Thor sprang up and was speedily ready.

04:19:59.200 He asked Hyner to let him row to the sea with him.

04:20:03.260 But Hyner said that Thor would be of little help to him,

04:20:06.500 being so small and a youth,

04:20:09.080 and that we'll freeze if I stay so long and so far out as I am wont.

04:20:16.000 But Thor said that he would be able to row far out from land

04:20:19.660 for the reason that it was not certain

04:20:22.080 whether he would be the first to ask the rope back.

04:20:25.820 Thor became so enraged at the giant

04:20:28.500 that he was forthwith ready to let his hammer crash against him,

04:20:32.660 but he forced himself to forbear.

04:20:34.940 Since he proposed to try his strength in another war,

04:20:38.880 he asked Hymer what they should have for bait,

04:20:42.440 but Hymer bade him get bait for himself.

04:20:46.260 Then Thor turned away thither,

04:20:47.940 where he saw a certain herd of oxen, which Hymer owned.

04:20:52.800 He took the largest ox, called Himinbrotr,

04:20:58.420 and cut off its head and went therewith to the sea.

04:21:02.600 By that time, Hymer shoved out the boat.

04:21:08.120 Thor went aboard the skiff and sat down in the stern seat,

04:21:12.540 took two oars, and rode.

04:21:14.940 and it seemed to Heimer that swift progress came of his rowing.

04:21:19.900 Heimer rowed forward in the bow, and the rowing proceeded rapidly. Then Heimer saw that they had

04:21:28.540 arrived at those fishing banks where he would want to angle an angle for flatfish. But Thor said that

04:21:36.060 he desired to row much further, and they took a sharp pull. Then Heimer said that they had come

04:21:42.780 so far that it was perilous to abide out further because of the Midgarth servant.

04:21:48.940 Thor replied that they would low a while yet, and so he did, but Hymor was then sore afraid. 0.78

04:21:57.260 Now as soon as Thor had laid by the oars, he made ready a very strong fishing line.

04:22:03.020 That hook was no less large and strong, no less large and strong. Then Thor put the ox head on

04:22:10.620 the hook and cast it overboard the hook went to the bottom and it was telling uh it is telling

04:22:18.780 me the truth to say that then thor beguiled the midgard serpent no less than utgar the loki

04:22:25.260 had mocked thor at that time when he lifted up the serpent in his hand the midgard serpent snapped

04:22:32.860 at the ox head and the hook caught in its jaw but when the serpent was aware of this it dashed away

04:22:40.140 so fiercely that both Thor's feet

04:22:43.060 crashed against the gunwale.

04:22:46.160 There Thor was angered

04:22:48.100 and took upon him the divine strength,

04:22:50.520 braced his feet so strongly,

04:22:52.580 plunged through the ship of both feet

04:22:54.980 and dashed his feet against the bottom.

04:22:58.080 Then he drew the serpent up to the gunwale.

04:23:02.040 And it may be said that no one has seen

04:23:05.580 very fearful sights

04:23:08.120 who might not see

04:23:10.140 how Thor flashed

04:23:11.960 fiery glances at the serpent

04:23:13.880 and the serpent in turn

04:23:15.540 stared up towards him from below

04:23:17.900 and blew venom

04:23:19.160 then it is said the giant

04:23:21.800 Heimer grew pale

04:23:23.620 became yellow and was sore afraid

04:23:26.200 when he saw the serpent

04:23:28.120 and how the sea rushed

04:23:29.680 out and in through the boat

04:23:31.840 in that very moment when Thor

04:23:33.800 clutched his hammer and raised it on high. Then the giant fumbled for his fish knife and hacked

04:23:40.200 off Thor's line at the gunwale. And the serpent sank down into the sea. Thor hurled his hammer

04:23:47.360 after it and then say that he struck off its head against the bottom, off its head against the

04:23:53.040 bottom. But I think it were true to tell that the Midgar serpent yet lives and lies in the 0.91

04:23:58.820 encompassing sea. But Thor swung his fist and brought it against Hymer's ear, so that

04:24:04.760 he plunged overboard. And Thor saw the soles of his feet, and Thor waded to the land.

04:24:13.660 So that's as far as we're going to get in the lore tonight. But we still have questions

04:24:21.300 to answer, and I am here for the long haul, so we will do what we do on it.

04:24:28.820 um looking back at the chat here give me a moment

04:24:37.260 oh dang uh

04:24:44.220 i didn't realize i was off um i was gonna say the uh the oxen

04:24:51.500 him in uh brother heaven breaker or really i mean if you think about it because a lot of people

04:25:01.260 like in the translation here says uh heavenly bellower but um the idea of an ox that can

04:25:10.740 because it also means to strike or to pierce um so imagine an ox so big that its horns are

04:25:19.860 piercing the sky I think is what this is alluding to and that kind of poetic nature I think is often

04:25:30.740 lost in translations. All right then so what translation of the Edda's

04:25:49.220 do you recommend also are there any books on learning course that you suggest

04:25:55.400 uh mine my general go-to is um uh davidson um

04:26:08.860 mainly because the poetics in english are kept i really really like it i think also i'm just

04:26:17.620 bias because that was one of the first ones that I, I went on. Hmm. Recommendation just

04:26:26.160 in totality as a book. That's a great question, especially when it's just say in relation

04:26:38.080 to the faith um I'm trying to think on on um just kind of like looking back because when I think

04:26:54.380 like oh you should read Nigel Pennick but that's mostly runic based um hmm

04:27:02.560 man i am at a loss like as a as a top

04:27:10.660 uh beard oil got it book top book

04:27:18.020 um i guess uh

04:27:25.840 culture of the teutons is good it's good solid germania in and of itself is good but doesn't

04:27:35.780 necessarily break things down oh um myth or yes myths and symbols of pagan europe by davidson

04:27:46.760 it's fine on learning norse oh oh i thought it was on aussitrew sorry um yes kids books

04:27:56.200 go get icelandic kids books and read them because they're simple and they're even you can take them

04:28:05.700 and find translations of them on youtube and then mimic them uh mimic their pronunciations

04:28:12.340 kids books are one of the biggest things I try to push when it comes to uh learning language now

04:28:22.020 is it exactly old Norse no but the older you go back in some of the Icelandic kid books

04:28:27.460 there's not a lot of new modern words so it is pretty dang close um the only thing is you start

04:28:36.040 get into pronunciation things and those are still theoretical um you can look at uh jackson

04:28:44.120 crawford and all of that stuff where he's talking about certain letters having different sounds but

04:28:48.840 even he says i don't know we don't know it's speculative but i i really think that the best

04:28:55.800 way to start is to not jump into the old norse but to go in the shallow end and walk your way out

04:29:03.720 by via icelandic and kids books particularly all right so i would recommend for

04:29:16.200 politica

04:29:20.200 i would recommend bellows but a nod to hollander just because the astro free assembly was involved

04:29:28.840 in getting that re um republished and back into circulation because it wasn't for a time and there

04:29:39.000 was an initiative by um the austral free assembly which is our predecessor uh proto version of the

04:29:48.440 the austral folk assembly and they were part of a like a request campaign to get that republished

04:29:58.760 so that's cool but i think bellows is the best of the translations of that

04:30:06.440 um as far as books on learning norse

04:30:09.480 like spawn said learn icelandic facts if you can't speak icelandic you can read old norse

04:30:20.040 and make sense of it will you speak everything with the perfect enunciation maybe maybe not

04:30:29.320 again a lot of that speculative because we have no native old norse speaker but icelandic

04:30:36.680 is closer to old norse as modern english is to you know edwardian or elizabethan english

04:30:45.960 so like you can read shakespeare and it's original and make sense of it

04:30:50.280 as a modern english speaker the same is certainly true of old norse in icelandic

04:30:57.160 you could absolutely travel back in time and talk to vikings in modern icelandic

04:31:04.920 and you would understand what they're saying and they would mostly understand what you're saying

04:31:11.160 that's that works and that gets you 95 of the way there and you can work on the rest of it

04:31:19.800 again i'm not an expert i am struggling so bad i have struggled with this the entire time i've

04:31:25.720 been out so true and i've given up many times before i've been steadily learning now for a

04:31:31.320 couple of years i'm getting closer all the time it is not easy for me it's way easier from other

04:31:39.320 people but i'm getting better and what i would say is spawn suggestion about children's books

04:31:45.960 and children's videos on youtube and children's stuff if you're an icelandic baby how do you learn

04:31:52.520 icelandic you listen to your parents talk and then you go through preschool and kindergarten

04:31:58.360 learning Icelandic stuff that's legit I would also say what is really cool to do

04:32:06.780 the website that's fun and I use and read from the lowest.org has got like

04:32:13.120 dual facing translation so it's got the original Old Norse and in translation on

04:32:19.300 go through and read stuff in Old Norse there and compare it to the English on

04:32:25.520 the other side and get used to that. I try to do that a little bit every day myself to get

04:32:31.980 comfortable with it, and I'm surprised how much familiarity I get out of it. Again, I've got a

04:32:38.240 long way to go, but I'm a lot closer than when I started. What is your guys' view on FIMCV?

04:32:48.780 i see it as compatible but what's your guys take every couple years somebody comes up with a new

04:32:56.760 word to do the same thing and rebrand it and start back at new one that is my take on that

04:33:04.360 that's my take on the sedians and foreign savior and

04:33:09.420 organism and wokenism and whatever other thing you want to call this that we do

04:33:16.260 If you are worshiping the Iser, call what you do Ausatru and join the Ausatru Folk Assembly. 0.99

04:33:25.780 Everything else is just a waste of energy. 1.00

04:33:30.580 If everyone who's trying to do this are all going their own special snowflake, unique little way,

04:33:37.700 we are irrelevant and we do not move forward.

04:33:41.300 The time that we have seen forward progress in the modern resurrection of our faith, whatever you call it, is under the name Alcetree and largely and almost exclusively in the last 20 years with the Alcetree Folk Assembly.

04:34:00.980 I'll say this

04:34:05.300 there is

04:34:06.200 there was a time of testing

04:34:09.140 that occurred

04:34:10.120 to where the Aesir 0.93

04:34:12.140 awoke

04:34:14.380 the soul

04:34:16.360 of a number of our people

04:34:18.740 they woke

04:34:21.360 Maestro Guido von Liss

04:34:22.860 from the slumber

04:34:23.720 they woke Alexander Rudd Mills

04:34:27.040 and

04:34:28.120 Elsie Christensen

04:34:30.360 and John Gibbs Bailey and John Ewell in England

04:34:38.060 and Sven Bjorn Vientensen in Iceland and his compatriots

04:34:43.880 and they awoke our founder Stephen McNally.

04:34:50.360 Those people all had an opportunity to try to build this and do this the best way they knew how.

04:34:57.820 It looked different in different places at different times.

04:35:04.480 Stephen McNallan and his brand of Alcetru is what won that time of testing.

04:35:11.920 It stood the test of time.

04:35:13.840 It remained solid, viable, and it built the foundations of what we do today.

04:35:21.120 I've done the best that I know how to carry that forward in the best way and in the way I feel the God's approval of the best.

04:35:29.040 We continue to do that.

04:35:32.000 When we stay with the Alistair Folk Assembly, we move Alistair Folk forward.

04:35:37.760 Every attempt at, no, let's try this new thing and start fresh, chops us back to square one. 0.77

04:35:44.920 If every year is year one, we will never ever build an institution worthy of our gods

04:35:51.860 and here to meet the needs of our children and our grandchildren.

04:35:57.580 The Austin True Folk Assembly is doing that.

04:36:00.400 We have stood as the Austin True Folk Assembly now for, we are in our 32nd year.

04:36:09.540 Doesn't sound like a lot in the course of human history.

04:36:14.220 But in the course of people trying to do this, it's huge.

04:36:20.760 If you go do Ferencidu, cool, you start again at year one.

04:36:28.680 Or if you stick with Ausitru and the Ausitru Folk Assembly, next year we'll start year 33 with five Hoffs working on our sixth.

04:36:40.260 We've got to stay the course and have constancy.

04:36:42.700 and every time we want to call it

04:36:44.580 some little regional variation

04:36:46.700 linguistically

04:36:47.520 we lose the momentum

04:36:50.040 of what we've all built together

04:36:51.700 people talk about tribes and whatever

04:36:54.600 we are still so

04:36:56.600 few in number that doesn't

04:36:58.500 make sense

04:36:59.280 pooling our efforts together

04:37:01.980 behind

04:37:03.620 one thing

04:37:05.300 the thing that has been shown in favor of the gods

04:37:08.640 that is what moves us

04:37:10.520 forward and that's my thoughts

04:37:12.620 it's fine do you have thoughts um the question uh can we reiterate the question just real fast

04:37:22.260 it was i was typing um kind of got lost oh the foreign c to the anglo-saxons um

04:37:33.100 yeah i i think one of the things that you really kind of hit me with that was like an axe cut was

04:37:42.620 And everyone tries to tear things down to year zero. And that no truer statement has ever been uttered than that. I don't know the reasoning. I could be pessimistic and say it's all because certain people want to be in control or it's interpretation or what have you.

04:38:03.700 But there is a, there is order, but we are flexible that I think people that are loyal to the ICER should just be ousted through.

04:38:20.520 It is a good word, but people say, oh, no, I don't want to do that because it's linguistically this or it's religiously that.

04:38:29.140 And it gets kind of ridiculous. And you have motion going forward. There are temples being built. Our religion is being finally recognized and moving into real world, not backyard barbecue religion with your boys, with your friends.

04:38:54.800 um i think that people that do this if they have some allegiance like i'm british so i only want

04:39:03.720 to do english style or whatever i think that's again that's finiting it down and what good does

04:39:11.560 that ultimately do in the end it doesn't carry a lot of weight when in reality if we're speaking

04:39:19.040 english right now and we know that old norse was the last bastion of our religion and its practice

04:39:26.500 outside of being molested by any other foreign ideals then we should look at that look at today 0.95

04:39:36.260 and move forward um getting away from pagan in as fun as fun says don't like don't let foreigners

04:39:44.260 molest you so um no and i want to address this quick because it came up and nick i appreciate

04:39:52.180 you highlighting it to make sure we didn't um personal ask the question says i'm not tearing

04:39:58.180 things down i'm more saying you see a difference in the two traditions i'm full on board house

04:40:03.540 the truth so keep in mind and this is for you and everybody else asking questions

04:40:09.380 We are answering for the person who asked, but also for all the others that are listening that didn't ask.

04:40:17.300 So sometimes if we veer away from the original intent, that's why, to get back to what you were asking, no, it's the same thing.

04:40:26.580 The English worshipped the same gods in virtually the same way, in all of the meaningful ways that counted to the Norse practice.

04:40:39.460 I have

04:40:41.100 your mention of it tonight

04:40:43.140 because it is linguistically

04:40:45.020 identical to form saver

04:40:46.980 which is a commonly used

04:40:49.360 Scandinavian

04:40:51.460 term

04:40:51.920 often amongst the Danes

04:40:54.280 is why it comes to mind

04:40:56.640 but hearing it as

04:40:58.000 first time I heard it tonight

04:41:01.560 I think it

04:41:03.200 absolutely flows with everything we've said

04:41:05.440 as every somebody tries to

04:41:07.320 oh we'll do this new thing

04:41:08.800 I have no idea what, if there is an official organization that calls itself that, believes.

04:41:15.120 But linguistically, Anglo-Saxon paganism is Alcetri.

04:41:23.420 A really good book on that is Elder Gods by Stephen Paulington.

04:41:28.460 A lot of good stuff there.

04:41:30.280 It is rapaciously expensive.

04:41:34.340 I wish that it wasn't.

04:41:36.140 I recommend it because it is a very good book.

04:41:40.800 It's very expensive.

04:41:43.560 Share a copy with your friends, whatever, but it's really good.

04:41:52.320 But yeah, fundamentally, it is the same thing.

04:41:57.240 And they may use, because we all like to nerd out on etymology and on word choice.

04:42:04.220 And I do too.

04:42:06.140 But I'm trying to harken back to what we have in common, which is the Old Norse source material, which is the vast majority of our sources.

04:42:15.320 Even Dr. Paulington mentioned in The Elder Gods, there's very little of that primary source written in Anglo-Saxon English.

04:42:24.540 So he's still in that book relying very heavily on the Old Norse's language.

04:42:29.620 So that's what we kind of default to.

04:42:32.660 we become very irrelevant if we need to have a danish virgin and a norwegian virgin and a

04:42:43.180 swedish virgin and a german virgin and an iberian virgin and a lombardic virgin and and and and

04:42:51.660 there's way too few of us this would be an interesting conversation if there are several

04:42:59.300 a hundred million house a truer when there's hundreds or perhaps thousands

04:43:07.520 no we need to all get on the team that's winning and stay on the team

04:43:11.940 and here's the other thing to note too and again this is not to your original

04:43:15.900 questions this is just to the other listeners

04:43:17.740 um so i lost my train of thought a little bit there i was gonna maybe it'll hit me again in

04:43:31.660 a second i was just saying if we stay on the thing that's working and we don't go off on

04:43:36.380 these little rabbit holes all the time we would be so much further along and i remember what i

04:43:41.500 was going to say is spawn mentioned that some of it is because personalities don't want to give up

04:43:48.140 control and every new little every new potentate and i don't want to be disrespectful i like being

04:43:55.580 the ulcerative if you guys are like hey we've discovered this secret house of truth thing

04:44:03.180 in agartha in the hollow earth and they've got like 10 million people matt you should get on the team

04:44:09.180 yeah that would be hard for me i'm not saying it's not i get that i like to think that i would

04:44:16.740 do that if they were doing it better and they were doing it successfully that i would like

04:44:22.860 to be a part of that rather than selfishly hold back my own little kingdom

04:44:28.140 i've seen this people don't want to give up their position of power so they would rather be the king

04:44:35.820 of 25 or 30 people then be a meaningful go-fi in an organization of you know hundreds and with their

04:44:47.500 addition maybe even thousands um if everybody got on the team we're not trying to gatekeep

04:44:57.100 if you are leading an organization of people who all practice this

04:45:01.740 join up be part of what we're doing let's get you there if you want to be in a position of power

04:45:10.500 earn it nobody's trying to hold anybody down get over here volunteer be part of what we're doing

04:45:16.880 join the the folk builders and the go thought program no we want to hold anybody down we want

04:45:22.480 to raise everybody up and if you want to contribute in a big way you have an opportunity to do that

04:45:27.160 here so let's make it happen um other stuff i just realized i have not asked anyone in the afa

04:45:38.140 about this yet what are your stances and beliefs about hyperborea if any slan speak on hyperborea

04:45:46.040 if you would like to yeah i think i have a less refined view than you um because we've spoken on

04:45:54.680 this before i obviously the mentioning of the the word in and of itself and where it comes from

04:46:01.220 being latin that you know it's the above the borealis um i view this as there there is that

04:46:10.980 central place where that central place may be is up to debate um fantastical i don't know but maybe

04:46:21.000 sure Atlantis others saying no it's a place of you know north and above maybe central Russia

04:46:30.420 um all I know is that my belief that Heimdall is the the house of contact that we connected with

04:46:44.200 that we that he changed us and that his name his title whether it's translated as

04:46:49.580 the home dale or the home fire which i think could apply to both it is that central place

04:46:56.820 where we were uniquely formed uh with our relationship with the gods and with him

04:47:04.220 specifically and that from there we moved out whether that area is up north um whether that

04:47:12.780 area is somewhere in the caspian or in the western chinese and eastern or western eastern russian or

04:47:22.300 steps of russia i don't exactly know um it was kind of an interesting thing there was some linguist

04:47:29.660 i can't remember right now who was talking about how um bore of birdie and bore who gives and bears

04:47:38.300 up um that it could possibly be referencing a physical place a physical mountain um i don't

04:47:45.820 100 know if that's right or true i i just found it very interesting that the correlation between

04:47:53.020 spirit and physicality being a a real thing in a place um but you know you look at hyperborea

04:48:02.220 and where the title comes from or you look at Atlantis and where that comes from and it becomes

04:48:09.380 a lot more speculative than perhaps saying there is a central place whether it's way up north or

04:48:18.360 whether it's kind of where we generally assume the caucuses or or even beyond beyond to the east

04:48:25.820 um where our people come from um i think that that's uh that's just more a realistic answer

04:48:36.280 um i also wanted to bring up too that um i didn't think that the question about the foreign cita was

04:48:43.580 um uh you know aggressive or against or tearing anything down um i think it's very interesting

04:48:52.200 considering that i kind of grew up and the anglo-saxon style was the theodish and then i

04:49:00.600 saw like normani and so i didn't know if it was just a side section of that um but i definitely

04:49:09.400 think it's time that we step outside of the micro european circles and that we need to as as we have

04:49:20.200 done for our people look at the big it's not um you know it's it's advantageous for them to say

04:49:28.360 oh you're not white you're italian it's you're not white you're english or you're irish um

04:49:36.440 but yet it's totally fine for everyone else so that collective net that branches out

04:49:43.400 i think is important for us in the in the security sense uh and spiritual sense we look at all these

04:49:52.640 differences and at the end of the day they don't really matter the other difference though cultural

04:49:57.360 i think that a lot of anglo-saxon groups have a tendency to focus heavily on um uh oafing and

04:50:07.380 hierarchy in anglo-saxon i'm the i'm the lord and this is my file or thul etc etc and we are

04:50:18.860 way more modern than that we're more family oriented more community oriented

04:50:23.140 so that might be a difference between us but um so yeah those two questions are kind of

04:50:30.820 broad answers but uh i don't know all right so hyperborea

04:50:44.420 it's hard to tell there's a point where we surpass the known and we go in again

04:50:50.420 the idea that there is an arctic polar origin point or homeland for our people

04:51:01.440 sure i tend to buy into that i don't want to say a hundred percent because that goes back

04:51:11.300 into the unknown i know that our people emerge from the ice age as a race of people prior to that

04:51:22.900 i wonder um bal tillak wrote a arctic homeland in the venice that i think is

04:51:30.980 interesting because a lot of our mythos implies a polar association or at least a very far north

04:51:42.900 arctic understanding of the world so i like the idea of that i think there's merit to it and i

04:51:51.700 would say more likely than not validity to that but again it's not it's not a hill i want to die

04:51:59.220 on it's not a certainty but we do tend to favor that um last oh for sherwood thank you sherwood

04:52:09.140 donated 20 towards phraseoff much appreciated last question on the bank do you have any book

04:52:17.300 or peer-reviewed paper recommendations on ancestral germans fighting the mongols ancient battles in

04:52:25.460 general it's fine um the only thing i can think of is the history of the mongols um

04:52:35.700 by spuler spuler spuler he was actually born in the kingdom of prussia so he's a prussian that's

04:52:46.500 i mean that's cool and he he um is known as like an expert in orient orientalism which i think

04:52:57.300 again is another reason why i thought that was pretty like oh you should key in on that because

04:53:03.620 words mean something and you know from the european perspective uh we are the uh west the

04:53:11.300 occidental and that is the east and the oriental but when you're talking about the mongols

04:53:19.300 and this is just a side thought do you mean the huns because the mongols in relation to

04:53:27.300 european history was definitely it was like the 12 um right around the time that the uh

04:53:35.380 The Edas were being fully formed and transcribed in Iceland.

04:53:42.300 So this is post-conversion.

04:53:46.540 So the 1240s, I think, is when the battle with the Mongols was a thing.

04:53:57.400 And, you know, when we look at it, it's not so much a religious connection to our faith about it,

04:54:05.180 But again, Europe or the land of the folk, the Folkland was being attacked and, you know, we banded together.

04:54:15.680 But this was kind of like the formation of what I would say most importantly is Christianity being a political organization was beneficial in the sense that they organized monetarily.

04:54:32.220 But knighthood was a huge thing there. And knighthood is clearly not born of Christianity. It's Germanic and European warrior culture that was kind of brought under yoke of the Christian kind of economic tax and money movement that happened throughout Europe.

04:54:59.360 so the money part and the logistics part really helped out but it was the germanic and and uh

04:55:05.680 ultimate or european warrior culture that predated christianity because again it wasn't coming from

04:55:12.400 people like saul of tarsus and all of those guys that brought christianity in um it wasn't until

04:55:19.760 you know charlemagne and even then it was it was questionable because the tribal sense um was

04:55:29.360 very hard for him to try to unite everyone based on oaths and based on laying those groundworks for

04:55:37.440 for um what knighthood would eventually become it was there but again they clearly saw this

04:55:46.240 as like a foreign thing this was uh just something that was knee-jerk like rejected immediately

04:55:53.760 after the long and eroding sense of of getting everyone under the the yoke of of christianity as

04:56:03.400 a economic power it was there that the germanic knighthood and oath-bound warrior system was

04:56:12.080 really refined uh and i think that really helped against the mongols um but i just didn't know if

04:56:19.860 meant mongols or the huns because the huns was more during the time that our ancestors were

04:56:26.020 not really dealing with christianity except for like the goths with the arian christians who 0.89

04:56:31.940 were coming in and trying to convert them at the same time that the huns were attacking so um yeah

04:56:40.100 but uh spooler s-p-u-l-e-r history of the mongols so i don't but the second part of the question

04:56:54.980 kind of looking for papers about germans or ancient like ancient battles in general

04:57:04.660 with germanics one thing that i thought was really cool that talks about the interactions between

04:57:13.700 various iterations of the roman empire and germanics which i think is really interesting

04:57:19.300 is uh the roman and the two time by professor charles kingsley it's a like written down series

04:57:30.180 of lectures but i thought it was really cool it's kind of hard to come by i posted a link over in

04:57:35.460 the side um it's from um the late 1800s and i think it's really really interesting it was one

04:57:45.940 i thought was really fascinating and it talks about a lot of stuff that you don't encounter

04:57:50.580 other places so i just throw that out as a recommendation but it's certainly not a direct

04:57:55.700 answer to your question thank you everybody tonight has been awesome we have had amazing

04:58:01.700 questions i think we made it through a lot of good pieces of uh the lord tonight um

04:58:09.460 still have some more to go i know we are taking shoot we've been on this for six months now

04:58:17.940 that's okay i think that this is a piece that we look forward to and like i said

04:58:22.420 if this was all we had to stand on was the guilt beginning this would we would be in good stead

04:58:29.700 so i think this is a really important piece it is uh seminal to all that we do now that we practice

04:58:37.380 house true so i'm glad we're taking our time with it thank you all for being here spawn thank you so

04:58:42.820 much for being my co-host once again uh thank you nick for producing next week i am still figuring

04:58:51.940 out what we're doing next week uh the host who is going to join me is not going to be able to

04:58:57.700 so i'm kind of prior commitment came up so i'm figuring out what that's going to look like but

04:59:03.140 i'll have something good i'll i'll have something for you next week hopefully it'll be something

04:59:07.620 good for you i'll be here regardless talk to you um until then i held the ice here remember victory

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Asatru Folk Assembly - June 04, 2026

6⧸3⧸26 Victory Never Sleeps, Ep 204 - Prose Edda： Gylfaginning, Part 10

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