In this episode, Gidea, Sheila, and Matt talk to the Folk Builders of the Odenshoff district. They talk about what their district is all about, what it means to be a Folk Builder, and the challenges that come with living in a district that is spread across a third of the country.
00:13:24.640And the following month, we are going to celebrate Freyfaxi at Baldershof, and that's at Baldershof in Murdoch, Minnesota.
00:13:35.700So if you can make that, we'd love to see you there.
00:13:38.260I'll be there. My family will be there.
00:13:40.760We'll be very excited to show off the absolutely beautiful hoff that they put so much work into and celebrate Freyfaxi and get time with our folks.
00:13:52.960So I'd love to meet you guys there if we can do that.
00:13:56.740I think that's what we've got at the top of the show.
00:14:01.380If I'm picking up what Sheila's laying down,
00:14:14.280that we usually ask people on their first time on the show.
00:14:18.880We got Ryan, he was having the technical difficulties.
00:14:21.820He looks like he is, I don't know, operating a jet or something because he's got his headgear on.
00:14:28.360Ryan, tell us a little bit about yourself, how you found, I don't know, how you came to Ausitru and how you found the Ausitru Folk Assembly.
00:14:37.380Sure. Yeah. So my name is Ryan Skinner.
00:14:40.140I'm a folk builder out of Northern California, about an hour and a half away from Odentoff.
00:14:45.500I've been a member of the AFA since 2017.
00:14:49.500um you know it was uh quite the journey um i found videos of matt and uh and steve mcnallan
00:14:59.460on youtube kind of drew me into the the folkish uh state of mind and uh brought me home so i've
00:15:06.700been with you guys loyally since well we definitely definitely appreciate you and it's great to have
00:15:17.900you and it's I don't it's been nice to uh watch course your life has taken in that uh in that
00:15:25.760period of time um and you are newly oathed as a uh as a full builder as of almost a month now
00:15:34.100yeah a month now we're right we're right close we're either side of a month ago so
00:15:41.840So speaking of that, there's another gentleman who was in front of Odin's Altar with you taking that oath, also a newly oathed folk builder in the Odin's Hoff District.
00:15:56.460Kyle, tell folks a little bit about yourself.
00:16:00.540Tell them how you came to Asatru and how you found the Asatru Folk Assembly and your PRs on the big three lifts.
00:16:11.840well um like i said my name is kyle reader um folk builder here in idaho in the southeast corner
00:16:21.120i'm pretty close to utah wyoming montana um i came to assad true actually through my wife she
00:16:29.680was wiccan in high school and i was like well i want to understand what she's doing um and so i
00:16:35.280kind of just started researching what she was doing we got in with a um druid pagan group here
00:16:39.920in town and i was like this kind of feels right but not quite so i started researching more of my
00:16:46.480ancestral um religious beliefs that they would have believed and that's what initially led me to
00:16:52.960um asatra in and of itself um i found the afa so i joined the afa in 2020 um i followed them online
00:17:02.000from like 2017 2018 just kind of lurked in the background for a little bit just wasn't ready to
00:17:09.280to pull that trigger um and then just trying to raise kids in the world we're in now just is what
00:17:13.680really made me finally pull it and i i'm yeah i don't know why it took me so long because i
00:17:19.120haven't been happier um but uh i guess pr is a big three list um you want meet prs or gym prs
00:17:26.720because they're different all right we'll take your word for it gym prs uh so gym prs right now
00:17:34.800i've got a 750 squat for a double so it's two reps um
00:17:42.400562 to a one board um to my chest it's 550 and then i've got 600 pound
00:44:32.860We actually did a video that Steve and I presented at Midsummer this year that I think was quite fun.
00:44:42.080Of course, we have so many photos. We pulled as many as we could together to basically show what it was like the very early days when there was really not much out there.
00:44:55.280There was the Troth, the Ring of Troth, and the Auster Alliance, and Steve was still in very good terms with Alguard Murray.
00:45:03.980So we knew that that would always be something we could do.
00:47:14.500And I said, we're always talking about the folk. How about the Elstrew Folk Assembly? So people always say, I said it has a V. No, it was always folk with an F. That's the way I do it. I wasn't into anything German. And that's how the name came about.
00:47:30.820And we established it with the state of California, got corporation papers, and then went through a couple of grueling years with the IRS trying to get the IRS exemption, which we did in 1997.
00:47:55.460But it was always, you know, at our home, we had some wonderful big events at our home.
00:48:00.540We had one called Gathering of the Tribes, 1999, and it had over 100 people for about four days.
00:48:10.180It was, and we had a perfect place for it, but it was a little on the rough side, you know, not like our events nowadays.
00:48:17.060It was a very motley crew of people who came from all over and didn't have the best behavior, and there was way too much drinking and all that.
00:48:25.220But that's the way it was in the early days, you know.
01:05:20.740It actually turned out really, really well.
01:05:22.940You had to contend with some really, for what may be strange to a lot of people in other
01:05:28.340areas of the country, summer up here can be pretty hectic.
01:05:31.720The weather, especially early in the summer, can be pretty, to use a term, but not trying to be, you know, insensitive to anybody, but weathered up here is pretty bipolar.
01:05:42.400It can go from freezing cold to heat to windy. I mean, it's across the board.
01:07:17.760Hi, I will see you soon at Sigur Bloat.
01:07:21.020And Ian, if you're still around popping in saying hi,
01:07:24.840hey i'm glad you're watching um and uh yeah he's saying hi from texas so uh sierra has come back
01:07:33.160after the the screaming baby emergency it looks like she might be feeding said baby
01:07:40.040said baby but feeding another baby a different baby
01:07:44.840okay well it's not a baby bjorn's like a whole child i didn't know he was the one
01:07:50.200screaming earlier that's fine uh yeah little girl crying my son okay well yes um where where i was
01:08:01.480at um you know there's just a lot of magic in the hall but for midsummer specifically um i've been
01:08:09.480through four midsummers now cooked for three of them two of them three of them cooked for three
01:08:17.880of them. And I have to say that this was definitely the smoothest midsummer that we've had. Last year,
01:08:25.180like I said, last year will always be my favorite midsummer just because of how
01:08:28.680victorious we were. But I take that as an outlier because that's not a normal midsummer situation.
01:08:35.600And I hope it's one we never have again. So with that one out, I would say this one was definitely
01:08:40.540my favorite. I mean, I got to watch two men who I consider brothers take their folk builder oath.
01:08:45.780was a blubbering mess as I always am during those things. I got to meet Tyler and his boys. Nick
01:08:51.940Gunn was just a beast in the kitchen and Ryan was by my side anytime I needed anything. He was right
01:08:57.880there to be found. You know, I had Tyler and Aaron and it was fun because they all have kitchen
01:09:04.320experience. So we got to run it like a, like a pretend little, pretend little restaurant kitchen
01:09:09.120and it made things work really well um we got we had a bunch of us uh brought our magic cards and
01:09:15.920we got to play magic the gathering which is like you know my little nerd plug but it was so fun to
01:09:20.320be able to do something i enjoy with with my folk and and people who mean a lot to me um
01:09:26.640and you know the biggest thing for midsummer for me is that weekend is all about i mean that like
01:09:32.560week is all about sacrifice um you know the days leading up to midsummer i went with sheila
01:09:39.760we went shopping and i had to drive down to marysville for that which is almost an hour away
01:09:44.400come back do some mom stuff pick up nick rice drive him to the hop which is you know another
01:09:49.840hour and a half away drive back home go to sleep wake up in the morning go to work get off work
01:09:54.640come out to the hof and then just immediately start and then staying up until two three o'clock
01:09:59.760in the morning to spend time with the night owls make sure they get some frith built and then
01:10:04.140start prepping for breakfast the next morning me tyler nick and um david we were in the kitchen
01:10:10.540at two three o'clock in the morning making breakfast for the next day and then go to sleep
01:10:15.760wake up do it all again the next day don't go to bed till you know four in the morning and then
01:10:19.540fall asleep ryan was my savior and made breakfast that morning because i was just so exhausted from
01:10:24.580an entire weekend of fun activities. And, you know, I got to hang out with Kyle while everybody
01:10:30.060else was inside giving talks. And we ran Children's Sumble, which was so much fun. I love getting the
01:10:35.220children involved. I love seeing their grasp and their knowledge on, you know, the folk and
01:10:40.420the lore and the gods and all of that, you know, asking them to hail an ancestor and
01:10:45.800them trying to really think about what an ancestor is and who they want to hail and
01:10:49.860hearing them talk about the gods and you know the third round when they're wanting to toast
01:10:54.940everybody they're all toasting their friends they're like hail my friends or hail the afa
01:10:59.320or hail my mom and it's just that was like the best part i think it's something newer that we
01:11:05.720started doing at most events is getting the children involved and i have to say that that is
01:11:09.940100 without a doubt my favorite part sorry that's her bottle having the kids learn and see their
01:11:17.880growth and and see them light up with excitement when you when you call out three three of the
01:11:24.240younger girls it's going to be horn bearer and they get to have that responsibility and
01:11:27.920they're not expecting it and i called on tyler's or i'm sorry i called on ryan's um middle child
01:11:34.820his youngest daughter to be a horn bearer for us and she was like super excited but she wasn't
01:11:40.400expecting it you know and then two other of the girls who come around they were just so happy to
01:11:45.560a part of something and you could see that we're laying the foundational groundwork for these kids
01:11:50.840to to to grow and they are our next generation so the fact that we're spending more time you know
01:11:58.120watering those seeds is just amazing and i i love it it's my favorite part of every event but
01:12:04.040especially midsummer giving those kids a purpose within the event awesome um a couple few things
01:12:13.320First, I have been remiss. Apparently, I'm supposed to advertise some merchandise this
01:12:18.460evening. As you guys know, we're trying to figure out our store and just how we're doing stuff.
01:12:23.940As always, these pieces of merchandise come with a caveat. Get them while getting's good,
01:12:29.800because we don't know what we're sticking with or how long we're sticking with it. We're trying
01:12:34.940some different things out for stuff that we've got to go out of house to get done.
01:12:39.720so uh we've got this shirt it's lovely it's a classic design uh you could see it on my tank top
01:12:48.680at the gym the other day but only sorta because the one i have is very old and faded so this one
01:12:56.760is new and fancy looking nick is this the product that we're selling is this one shirt or do we have
01:13:03.240some other things well as we have shirts hoodies we have ladies shirts and if you're ripe to brandy
01:13:12.280there might be stringers i don't know okay so imagine other shirts and stuff where you go to
01:13:19.160the link to purchase this shirt so i'm ridiculous and i'm not advertising it very well we have fine
01:13:25.480afa products for you i will tell you this in complete seriousness the shirts are really soft
01:13:31.320and nice i've been really impressed with a couple of them that i've gotten
01:13:37.320we've had some janky t-shirts in the past or whatever that are just you know rough or whatever
01:13:42.200these are really nice shirts they're very comfortable and i enjoy them so far so i do go
01:13:48.040in and please support us any money that you do for for these is going to a good cause to help us
01:13:53.960advance our mission and the mission of the icer so appreciate appreciate that and you'll get a cool
01:14:00.760shirt out of it um or hoodie so one thing that in always impressed uh on the back channels here how
01:14:10.760we're able to get it sheila was talking about uh finding that altar stone when we found um what
01:14:17.560would become odin's off and this is us there at that uh that very beginning after doing that that
01:14:25.400ritual making that promise to try to try to make that into a reality and make that that off and
01:14:32.040this is you know shortly right right on the tail of midsummer the sunday after midsummer of uh of
01:14:40.6002015. so there you go it's cool picture uh probably cooler to those of us that were there but um yeah
01:14:51.880it was really really special absolutely the gods uh smiled upon us with that and uh we've been so
01:15:02.680very blessed to have that off and from it started everything else um you know sheila talked about
01:15:08.520you know how they got got one off and you know weren't didn't have plans for the other ones but
01:15:14.280But, you know, how we've been able to get so many in the past few years, three offs and just.
01:15:24.320I mean, one of them was purchased in 2022, so three offs in two years was kind of amazing, but that's all facilitated.
01:15:33.160That first one was the hardest one. It's one of those things, as long as something's out of your grasp, that first person to break that record,
01:15:41.960that's that's what it takes and then it's that much easier after that and uh you know steve and0.95
01:15:48.800sheila and all the work they put in over the years trying to make a hof happen um it takes that it
01:15:56.320takes forever to break that unbreakable barrier but once you do it makes that so much easier for
01:16:05.080the rest of us to to come along behind and and uh you know keep moving the ball forward but it was
01:16:12.320such an accomplishment it's one of those things i remember reading um some of the very first
01:16:18.780editions of the runestone back in the one i was reading was like 82 or 83 but about yep any day
01:16:27.440now we're gonna get uh we're gonna get our hoff and we're gonna get our our you know our our at
01:16:32.700the time free assembly afa land and hoff and it's gonna happen you know any day now we're on it and
01:16:38.220that's the dream of everyone since like i said since at least the early 80s um i remember when
01:16:46.420i first got involved in house to true in uh 2001 you know again everyone everywhere was going to
01:16:54.160have these Hoffs and make stuff happen. And there were some, you know, modest like sheds and
01:17:03.100outbuildings on some people's property that kind of would serve the purpose of a Hoff. And, you
01:17:09.820know, it was, I guess, closer to what you'd call a stalli in the old term. It was a worship space
01:17:16.360and those were really cool, but it's a whole different thing to have something that's a
01:17:20.260recognizable house of worship that is a real deal Hoff.
01:23:06.700I just kind of want to point out all those people talking about, man, if only there was a bus, a bus didn't magically appear.0.97
01:23:13.040It took a young Aryan man of ingenuity and stick-to-itiveness to have the desire to make a bus happen and then to have the follow-through and the industrial-ness actually make stuff happen.0.67
01:23:31.360And I know that that sounds silly and goes without saying, but I think that sometimes, and this is kind of one of the purposes of this episode, and we'll be doing ones for the other Hoff districts as well, give kind of an idea for folks who are listening if they live in any of these, they're going to live in one of these districts,1.00
01:23:59.780whatever district they find themselves in to see that there's stuff going on around and there's
01:24:04.420people out there and how that and how it happens i think a lot of people reach out and
01:24:13.540want something very close to them and every day we are one step closer to having something close
01:24:20.100to everybody so much further than we were before but the way that happens isn't me casting a spell
01:24:27.460from reno and making it you know pop out of the ground what happens is somebody very much like
01:24:33.620every single person you see on this screen decided to step up as a party of one or maybe
01:24:41.940one and their spouse or their girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever the case might be and say hey
01:24:47.300let's start something hey do you guys want to come meet up at the park hey do you guys want to come
01:24:54.300over and have dinner. Hey, do you guys want to go get a beer and make something happen?
01:25:00.920In order for things to happen, it's going to take somebody out there to make it happen.
01:25:05.960And any of you listening can be the first person to do it wherever you're at. And if not, any of
01:25:11.200you listening can certainly help that person to make it happen and make it thrive and make it
01:25:15.560successful. So I'd encourage anybody, if you're listening to this program and you find it
01:25:22.580interesting if this is something you want to do if you are a heterosexual white person that would0.54
01:25:28.980like to build a relationship with your gods the icer come home to the ostrich focus and we check
01:25:35.220us out runestone.org um we're able to make amazing things happen when we stand together
01:25:42.740and that's what we'd love to do and we'd love to bring all our folk home so uh yeah oh and
01:25:49.860i suppose as good a time as any nick if you throw up a link to the uh wonderful slideshow you made
01:25:56.260of the midsummer event i suppose that picture's worth a thousand words and that's a bunch of
01:26:01.620pictures so you do the math but this gives you an idea of what it was like um and what you can
01:26:09.700experience when you come out and join us next year we had 103 people this year it's fantastic um
01:26:19.860Oh, we've got customer feedback over in the chat. The tall metal thingies are awesome. Apparently,
01:26:29.620those are super high quality. So we sell tall metal thingies with Hoff logos on them
01:26:34.440that you can put beverages in. That said, yes, I've learned it is called a tumbler,
01:26:42.780but they work really well. They're insulated good, and we've got good feedback. Honestly,
01:26:46.840we've got good feedback on all the products at the store that we're using so it's cool stuff we
01:26:53.200would appreciate you know any help that way and you guys have been awesome speaking of people
01:26:57.860being generous and awesome while we've been talking gw farnsworth who has been a frequent
01:27:02.760contributor on here in recent weeks bought us five coffees that's a $25 donation to the
01:27:08.820Astro Folk Assembly. If you want to do that, you could put it in one of those tumblers and send us
01:27:17.520actual coffee, and it would probably be warm when it got here because they're high-quality tumblers.
01:27:22.280But if you want to figuratively buy us coffee, the links are in the description to this video,
01:27:27.520and yeah, we appreciate you guys very much. There's a couple of other things. Somebody
01:27:32.140commented in the chat ryan you guys got wild horses in uh montana and i suppose tyler you
01:27:39.900might have some insight on montana wild horses as well uh over here in the west side of the state
01:27:47.100it's a part of no uh unless they're breaking out of somebody's ranch or anything like that
01:27:51.260we really don't have any wild horses over this way do you have wild horses in your neck of the woods
01:27:58.860tyler if if you if you're within a couple hours of me they they tend to pop up they're mainly in
01:28:06.300north dakota element they they like the canyons of the western part of north dakota but if you
01:28:12.540come into our area our area is the uh the badlands north breaks it sounds way worse than is actually
01:28:19.020a beautiful place uh if you can survive the winter but that was kind of the idea because we don't
01:28:24.060really want people that can't survive the winter to come on out because they usually have a lot
01:28:28.220of notions of needing extra frills so negative 55 was this uh this year's record normally negative
01:28:34.78040. so it's it's a good place but we do we do get wild horses through the area
01:28:41.500you want wild horses you come out to reno and give me half an hour i will show you wild horses
01:28:46.060we've got a ton of wild horses um to the east of us just about anywhere honestly um
01:28:53.020my wife was here she had no right the name of the neighborhood there's neighborhood kind of
01:28:59.020on the fringes of town to where it's very common to have wild horses just walking through the street
01:29:03.900so we got a bunch of them out where i'm at um
01:29:09.660what else we got going on over here we got somebody talking about how awesome the website
01:29:14.620is nick you did an amazing job on the website and continue to do so thank you so much for your hard
01:29:19.420work on that. Matt? Yeah. I'd like to do a little plug for Daughters of Frigg. It is our ladies
01:29:30.380group at Odenshof. All ladies are invited to take part. We do have a MeWe group. We do First Friday
01:29:37.400for Frigg, and that's our little video chat we do. This was the brainchild of Olivia Sutherland,
01:29:45.040who would be on here tonight, but she is with family out in South Carolina, and they're heading
01:29:50.680back to California in the morning, leaving at 3 a.m. So there's no way for her to be on here,
01:29:55.340but she's a really lovely lady. Everybody who meets her just appreciates her sweet, wonderful,
01:30:04.000and gentle ways. She's just amazing. But she also helped us come up with what is our
01:30:10.420hof flower and our our um our saying our three words that represent our hof each of our hofs
01:30:18.680were um were tasked to do this by wit and brandy um bassett and we we came up with a rose um when
01:30:29.240you see the video um that i produced for the promotional video when we first had the grange
01:30:35.640and we started raising money, you'll see that the rose that is still there was in bloom when we saw
01:30:42.680it. And so it was natural that in coming up with a flower for Odenshof, that would be the rose.
01:30:48.280What was really neat is that Olivia did a little bit of digging around and she came up with
01:30:53.720something called the Sheila Rose in honor of me. And I truly appreciate that. And so we actually
01:30:59.400planted that at May Day or May was a work weekend, but it was a couple of months back. We have the
01:31:05.160sheila rose right next to on the other side of the steps from the other large rose but um and i'm
01:31:11.400sure that nick can come up with that but this is just this shows the t-shirts that we have
01:31:18.600at our hof um with the rose on the front and on the back are words that we came up with as the
01:31:25.720women of odin's hof um and what we see is our role when people meet us there we go look at each of
01:31:33.320those. Odenshof, Thorshof, Baldershof, and Njordshof. Excellent. They're all very similar.
01:31:41.300This is actually more of a charcoal gray, as you can see. But we came up with the words, which I
01:31:46.000think exemplifies who we are at Odenshof. Generosity, joy, and resilience. And I really
01:31:54.700like the idea of resilience because we found that we are very adaptable and we can deal with change
01:32:00.440on a moment's notice and we have a lot of strength because we work together so well we have great
01:32:07.080teamwork and we're growing our our folk builder core but we can always use more if you are
01:32:13.660interested in becoming a folk builder in our district or any of the districts reach out to
01:32:20.120the godi or gidea who is there for us also nathan erlinson is the head of the the leads of all the
01:32:29.300folk builders. And if you're interested, you could reach out to him as well, because he'd love to
01:32:35.500talk to you about it and tell you what's involved. But I think everybody here is doing it. It's a
01:32:43.600work of love. It is simply who we are and what we do. And we are better for it, for having
01:32:50.880wonderful, dedicated folk builders like you see here tonight. But we have a very large district,
01:32:56.360as you saw at the very beginning we could always use a few more folk builders to share the
01:33:01.640responsibilities but also the joy the joy we get here and um the difference we all make
01:33:09.880when we can uh reach out to our members and host events and all those things that are
01:33:18.840part of the the role we play here and we're all happy to be here but again folk builders
01:33:24.120if this interests you um talk to any of the folk builders find out about their experience and maybe
01:33:29.400they'd even talk tonight about it and why they chose to become a folk builder because that's
01:33:34.040pretty important but we welcome you to step up and inquire about it thank you one of the
01:33:43.320one of the really special things about the afa is uh you know sheila mentioned that olivia can't be
01:33:48.360here because her and her family are traveling um in the carolinas they met up with other afa members
01:33:56.280while they were out there and you know seemed to have a great time with that we saw a picture of
01:34:00.120them going out and having a meal um when you're part of the afa you've got you got family pretty
01:34:05.640much everywhere you go and if not if you're willing to drive an hour here or there you do
01:34:11.080and that's if you need something if there's an emergency but it's also if you're just traveling
01:34:16.120or you're moving to someplace new or whatever the case might be or you have a loved one somewhere
01:34:21.400that you want somebody to check on or whatever whatever it is it's nice to know that you're
01:34:25.560never you're never far from family when you're with the afa and that's really a special thing
01:34:31.400nick is quick with the pictures which is awesome um they're there with uh folk builder tyler buffet
01:34:39.240and his lovely wife and uh witten daniel young and his wife heather young uh folk builder heather
01:34:46.280young and uh so olivia's husband brody just stepped up to be an apprentice as well they're
01:34:52.360over a little bit closer to the bay area i wanted to kind of give people an idea of the spread of
01:34:58.760where we have folk builders in the district um earlier tyler mentioned aaron simbeck and he is in
01:35:06.360Puget Sound area, Washington. We've got also stepped up the Hoff Steward that Sheila talked
01:35:16.200so much about who's done such a great job of beautifying and taking care of Odenshoff.
01:35:21.740Dan Odom, he lives very close in the Brownsville area there. He has just stepped up to be an
01:35:28.240Apprentice Folk Builder. And we also have Lou Nickerson down in the Tucson area of Arizona.
01:35:38.880So we've got a couple of folks that are not able to be here, but we do have coverage in those areas.
01:35:45.400And Nick is amazing. Look, he is a wizard. That was the screen I was looking on to like poke
01:35:53.300around and tell you who we had where uh but nick was able to pop that up nick you're awesome thank
01:35:59.220you um is that we need a nevada folk builder a utah folk builder a colorado folk builder
01:36:09.140new mexico folk builder in a wyoming and organ i mean that's just what it shows
01:36:14.660in alaska and hawaii and we need one in australia and new zealand we need one in
01:36:20.980various parts of all of those places there's plenty of wide open space you can see on that
01:36:25.860map that doesn't have a folk builder in it you could be in those spots and you see little spots
01:36:30.660where people are overlapped you can overlap as well many hands make light work um and so that's
01:36:39.060kind of a thing sheila led into and i think it's a good idea if we can go around um kyle can you
01:36:44.740tell little folks a little bit about your experience as a as a folk builder and what
01:36:50.020kind of led you to folk building and how's that been so folk building has been amazing like i
01:36:57.620say all the time it honestly changed my life um made me a lot more patient man a lot more
01:37:01.780understanding and caring person um but it was mid-summer 2022 i was outside smoking with uh
01:37:10.580went in brandy facet and we were just kind of talking i was like i think i might try folk
01:37:14.660building one day she's like well why not just do it now so i was like hey i will and went and
01:37:19.780talked to you matt and went talk to sheila got right on it that day and i don't know why i waited
01:37:26.100so long for real like it's been one of the best experiences of my life awesome i'm glad to hear it
01:37:32.580ryan could you tell us a little bit about your experience as a folk builder and kind of
01:37:37.540what brought you to that uh yeah so uh i've been a member for a long time uh when i first joined
01:37:45.460the afa i lived in alaska i moved down in 2021 due to a health uh issue and the process of um
01:37:57.220moving and uh getting my family re-established to put us really close to the hof is actually
01:38:04.420where i grew up and so i got to go to more events i got to see the people and interact more um uh
01:38:12.580instead of being far away in the online space and it really um changed my life for the better i've
01:38:21.060lost about 120 pounds uh since being down here i have uh gotten healthier in every metric and
01:38:31.700And all those things culminated from having a good support structure that was in place from the AFA and a moral foundation, a moral pillar that I really looked up to.
01:38:45.880And when I got to a point where I was in good health and good financial standing, I wanted to give back to all the help, all the commitment, all the camaraderie and the frith that was given by the AFA and our members.
01:39:05.920And so in, I believe it was March, I asked Olivia Sutherland, Sheila McNellan, and Sierra, what's the process of becoming a folk builder?
01:39:21.240and from there they threw me right into the fire i got to contacting uh members learning the ropes
01:39:30.820and it it really opened my eyes to what it takes to keep this this rolling and it was it was
01:39:40.280awe-inspiring for all the the work that goes into it the people that are committed to doing and at
01:39:46.560at the time i believe we only had four folk builders five folk builders now i believe we're1.00
01:39:51.760close to eight or nine um the it really brought it to my attention that a the afa really needed
01:40:02.560help for the the odenshof district and b the help the the people we currently have are such good
01:40:09.040mentors that it was it was a no-brainer it was it was something that i've didn't know that i needed
01:40:17.760but when i got into it it became instantly a part of my life i talked to my wife's like hey do you
01:40:24.180want do you want to do this full time like i was an apprentice um during midsummer i took my oath
01:40:31.460and when i spoke with my wife said i want to continue doing this for the rest of my life
01:40:36.880and she she totally agreed the the amount of effort we put in and the the camaraderie we
01:40:45.260build is is amazing and so uh that being said if you are uh in in states that that aren't near a
01:40:55.420if you're if you're not in a place where they they hold moots contact a folk builder and see
01:41:04.200if you can uh make a moot for yourself uh hold a moot for local people that are nearby and when
01:41:12.280you build that that small community when you build the um the infrastructure for meeting people and
01:41:21.640seeing what we're all about it really turns your perspective and it it helps all together in my
01:41:28.600opinion and so yeah that's my two cents all right uh sierra what is i don't know what brought you
01:41:37.240to folk building and how's that been what do you what do you have to say about your folk building
01:41:41.800experience yeah so i have been a folk builder for four years i think yeah four years um
01:41:50.920Um, sorry, my son put on my, my, uh, noise canceling headphones, so he can't hear me.
01:41:58.120Um, so I've been a footballer for about four years.
01:42:00.760I joined the AFA February of 2020, 2021.
01:49:24.160so we are you're light on the questions so everybody knows it does not have to be an
01:49:42.160odenshoff district specific question you can ask us any of the rando questions that you ask normally
01:49:47.780and we've just got a lot of different people to farm them out to or to get perspective on so feel
01:49:53.820free to do that. Something that I did see from Casey. I don't know if you're still here, Casey.
01:50:09.640You said you were going to try and attend the Jackson County this year, but you're having
01:50:14.980health problems and short-term insurance is being a pain um if you are too unwell to attend that's
01:50:25.860certainly understandable and it's not going anywhere and it'll be there for you when you when
01:50:29.780you're feeling better um if it's a financial issue or something else nick would be really
01:50:37.540happy to talk to you on the side and try to get that worked out so you can attend so i'm not sure
01:50:42.260what's holding you back but we'd love to see in jackson county if you can make it at siggerheim
01:50:50.260and i saw something just came through so
01:50:56.020what does it take personally to volunteer for folk building and how would one prepare so
01:51:05.140So, I'm going to answer the first part, and then I want you guys to kind of think of what you would suggest is how one would prepare for it.
01:51:19.320So I have seen, I promise this is meant as a compliment, but it starts out negative.
01:51:38.500so i have seen woefully ill-equipped people who are not at all good with technology who have
01:51:52.180strange job hours who are in different marginal circumstances in their lives
01:52:01.700and quite frankly who are not necessarily high functioning individuals
01:52:05.540but they had a lot of heart and i've seen those people become amazing folk builders
01:52:13.640i've also seen people with the best of circumstances the most free time they are
01:52:21.020just a computer whiz on all of that they've got the most engaging personality and a you know
01:52:30.280million dollar smile and they look like you want them on the poster and they're like
01:52:35.540they have all the natural talent in the world and they just don't care that much and it doesn't work
01:52:42.680out so what i would say a person needs to have the most and it depends on where we're all at
01:52:50.620different places in our in our journey home to wholeness to health and to our relationship with
01:53:01.940i seer um but certainly the more devout you are in your practice of alsatru the better you will be
01:53:11.700the more you care about what you are doing and you feel the weight of responsibility
01:53:17.860to take ownership for the things that you're assigned or the things that you take on and
01:53:23.620say that you will do having the ability to have the follow through and to care that stuff gets done
01:53:32.500it's the biggest thing is just and it sounds so simple but this is a volunteer position and so it's
01:53:40.100not the incentives of it are not as straightforward and it's easy to slip into inaction or assuming
01:53:54.740somebody else to take care of something but somebody who's self-motivated and feels the
01:53:59.380responsibility of making things happen and if you want to do something and you're not getting
01:54:05.860answers you're not you know it's not happening making it happen if you have questions asking
01:54:10.740the questions if you want to do something figure out how to do it if you don't know how to do
01:54:17.300something asking because you're going to make damn sure it gets done because you are committed
01:54:22.740that's what we need is committed people who want to take responsibility and ownership of the duty
01:54:28.820of being a folk builder that's the biggest thing that i would say you would need to have coming
01:54:34.260into it now there's a lot that goes into folk building um a lot of it involves daily communication
01:54:42.660electronically with the other you know other afa leaders about a variety of issues
01:54:49.860dealing with our membership database dealing with um membership dues and all the things that aren't
01:54:57.940sexy or fun but are what keeps the lights on and allow us to move forward some of the more you know
01:55:04.580fun and things you'd see that have to do with it are hosting things and hosting things doesn't
01:55:10.180mean something grand necessarily if you can fantastic but it can be just meeting up with
01:55:16.420other members at some place you want to go already and spending an afternoon with them
01:55:21.620at a park, or at a local bar, or a local restaurant, or going on a hike. It doesn't have to be a big
01:55:27.780extravagant event. But doing those things and doing them regularly, the regularity and consistency
01:55:33.900is probably the biggest thing. But if somebody wanted to be a folk builder, how would you suggest
01:55:39.900they prepare for the position, Sheila? I think that a lot of people do have their heart in doing
01:55:52.220it, but they find that they're not into time management. They kind of wing it when it comes
01:56:00.040to scheduling things in their own lives. They know how the routine works, but in folk buildings,0.94
01:56:06.160it really takes um being aware of how you're going to schedule your time because we do have deadlines
01:56:12.560so i would say that's something to really think about how can you begin um keeping track of what
01:56:18.400you do during the day when you've got free time where you could do something make calls or get
01:56:25.440online and those kinds of things which are very easy to do when it comes down to it it's it's
01:56:31.120finding the time to do it and making the time and actually following through so we all have
01:56:36.720that problem where we intend to do it we don't quite get to it as soon as we want but i think
01:56:43.040as time has gone on the time management and keeping track just have a notebook and write down
01:56:49.680you know what you're doing and um keep keep a journal of of once you start folk building of
01:56:56.480what you're doing who you're reaching out to we also have other ways of doing it internally um in
01:57:02.160the database and such as that but um i think that really can help someone be successful at folk
01:57:08.480building is just being aware of how they how they use their own time as it is enough for me someone
01:57:16.080else all right so kyle what would you suggest someone does to prepare for the position if they
01:57:23.600want to do uh volunteer to fulfill um first thing i would recommend that somebody is if they're
01:57:32.320married is talk to their spouse because it is a huge commitment to take um you miss some family
01:57:38.080time stuff like being on here tonight um my wife and my kids are all downstairs well they're
01:57:42.880watching this live now but um i'll be on phone calls when we're having movie nights because
01:57:48.240the member needs my help with something um it's a huge commitment that not just you take on your
01:57:52.240your family takes on you might do the work but your family is right there with you going through
01:57:55.760all of it um another thing like sheila said is do great with time management um i sucked at it at
01:58:01.520first she helped me out with the whole little notebook trick and that has saved my bus so many
01:58:05.160times i can't even count them and then get used to talking on the phone it's a lot of talking on
01:58:11.240the phone with people and you can't be scared to pick up a phone and just call somebody and be like
01:58:14.720hey how's it going how's your day just wanted to talk to you real quick um and then be willing to
01:58:22.880be on social media and have your face out there not to hide um you have to be willing to be the
01:58:28.260face of the afa especially if you're in a small state where there isn't a half
01:58:33.080absolutely i think those are really good things i think the the bit about your family being
01:58:39.840on board is huge. I've seen that be a big, a huge asset when that's in place, and I've seen that be
01:58:47.680a huge detriment when it's not. So, it's a really good point. Ryan, new Ryan.
01:58:56.240All right. So, I'd have to say that the first thing is, you're never going to be perfectly
01:59:03.260prepared for taking on new responsibilities. If you have that time available, if you have that
01:59:11.340drive and willingness to volunteer yourself for something greater than yourself, then the time is
01:59:18.140now. The time to get all that set aside and, you know, put something forth in your life that
01:59:26.240actually means something is now. In terms of like if you have a family, it does cut into your family
01:59:34.000time a little bit, but not that much. Let's just take our Odense Hoff tasks into account here. We
01:59:42.800do about 15 to 20 calls in a month. You can do this split between all the fault folders that
01:59:49.920are currently here and you have a month period to to get it knocked out uh we have a requirement to
01:59:57.120to write articles um and it doesn't have to be like a five page article it can be just a
02:00:03.600a paragraph about something that you accomplished at a moot or something that's also true late
02:00:09.280related uh make sure you get gothar approval on stuff that that uh deals with the um with
02:00:16.160the the religious and spiritual aspects of that but it doesn't it's not as daunting as one would
02:00:25.440suspect it and especially if more people volunteer for it if more people step up
02:00:32.240it becomes a lot easier like sheila says uh many hands make light work and it is it's very rewarding
02:00:41.440you get to meet a lot of people you get to see where their walks of life are you get to hold
02:00:47.040events you and especially if you're in a state where you get to go to a hoff and you get to be
02:00:53.120a part of the the event planning it's incredibly like rewarding it you you get to see how the
02:01:01.200sausage is made and it is something that i want to do forever so it don't don't deter yourself
02:01:09.120it's just i would say it's kind of akin to having a kid and there's no perfect time but if you want
02:01:13.600it do it so just make sure that you put your heart and soul into it just just like a kid so
02:01:20.800that's my two cents on that that's the thing i and i'd like to just kind of throw this out there if
02:01:25.920you're there is a reason that we have an apprenticeship process um when you when you
02:01:35.600take your oath you're making a commitment to stick it out and to do this long term even when it's
02:01:42.560difficult but the apprenticeship process is for you to feel it out and you know get an idea whether
02:01:48.080it is something that you want to spend your life doing um and so that gives you some time to
02:01:58.800kind of feel that out and it's really easy to talk about it and think about it in theory and
02:02:03.600And sometimes in practice, it might be different than you think in both ways.
02:02:08.180You might think that it sounds, you know, really difficult.
02:02:11.060And then you sign up and you do it and you love it.
02:02:17.880So there is that there, you know, everyone here is talking about things to be prepared for and some of the difficulties involved.
02:02:26.240And I'm glad they are and they should be because, you know, that's what we're talking about is what you would need to do to be prepared for it.
02:02:31.980But then again, man, that was one of the best things I ever did with my life.
02:02:39.020So many of us, so many of my very best friends.
02:02:44.260Yeah, it changed their life being an active part in making this happen and leading the, you know, leading the charge to bring our folk home to our native, our native faith, to our gods, to the Isir.
02:03:00.260or reforging that relationship after so long,
02:03:04.420we're still in a time where you have an opportunity
02:03:07.780to be such a huge part of building that
02:03:10.780and building that legacy going forward.
02:10:02.940And being there for the it's real moment is worth everything.
02:10:07.560So all I can say is you are on the fence of boat building.
02:10:12.900You've already shot yourself in the foot by waiting because those moments are beyond worth it.
02:10:24.340So that's, I think, a really important thing that Tyler pointed out.
02:10:32.200Sometimes you just got to jump, you know, sometimes you've got to make that leap and try something that, you know, you should do, but you're not comfortable with.
02:10:42.540And, you know, when I think, look back at my life at the times I've done it, there's very few times that I regret it and a whole lot of times that has quite literally made me the man I am today and I wouldn't trade him for anything.
02:10:59.980Taking the jump into trying something you're not comfortable with that you know you should do, it gives you the opportunity to be, you know, part of where the magic happens.
02:11:11.220You know, he mentioned it's, it hurts when you're dealing with people who, and you get this as a folk builder, but you get it more so as a go-thee because you're really in on a lot of the counseling.
02:11:25.260And you can do that if you build friendships, but our go-thar do this a lot.
02:11:28.660I don't think people realize it because it does take a toll when you're counseling people at their very worst.
02:11:40.440The reason they don't hurt your feelings in your normal life is because you're aloof to them and don't know about them.
02:11:47.420When you know, yeah, it hurts, but you get a chance to be there and be that somebody and be part of helping somebody who's in a bad spot, have that spot be a little bit brighter and a little bit better.
02:12:01.180in the exact same way when somebody's celebrating something amazing rather than kind of hearing about
02:12:07.880it through the grapevine you get to be there and help make it happen and the times that you can be
02:12:12.080instrumental in making that happen or facilitating you know maybe because of an event you hosted or
02:12:18.940a call you answered that nobody else did or you know people that you got together you see those
02:12:25.940people starting a family and you know get married or have a baby or do anything great with their
02:12:32.440life or you know shoot you see them across the country become a folk builder and do this those
02:12:38.880are huge things if you're part of bringing someone home to our gods that's that's amazing
02:12:44.160it's tremendously rewarding and it's not something that you're gonna really feel the way that the
02:12:50.380rest of us do until you, until you have it happen. But it's a big deal. So another question we've
02:12:57.880got, what was the best food slash meals served at one of the events at Odin's Hof? Sheila,
02:13:07.060in your recollection, what is one of your favorite things at an Odin's Hof event?
02:13:14.160i i don't recall i mean our meals are really phenomenal we always have lots of food we have
02:13:24.700a wonderful uh member he's been with us for decades now newt and newt will always bring
02:13:29.900something unique in his crock pot it might be buffalo heart or or ox stew or something like that
02:13:37.840and uh it's always a novelty and people love seeing what he does and he does it it's all from
02:13:44.240the heart and we have people like that who you say never mind you don't need to bring something but
02:13:49.040he always does and he always brings meat and so we've got this you know it really helps build the
02:13:54.720frith of our our meals by having people contribute we have wonderful meat dishes of course when we
02:14:02.000but we tend to try to do the cheaper cuts of course because we're serving anywhere between
02:14:09.60030 adults typically on a monthly event and you know 15 kids to mid-summer which was actually 106
02:14:16.880people um and so um as much as we'd like to do a lot of meat we do wonderful turkeys i'll say that
02:14:25.760we do um in november at vc and harry are we always do our thanksgiving at that point i guess
02:14:32.800that would be one of the best because it's very traditional for people who don't have family to go
02:14:37.440to we make sure that they have a nice thanksgiving dinner with us ryan can you think of a particularly
02:14:47.040good thing that you've had at uh well yeah i can uh i'm i'm always gonna plug i uh i bring
02:14:56.380venison chili um at least once a year so i think that's one of the better ones uh and
02:15:03.780you didn't produce oh okay all right so um actually yeah we we did a uh a ham uh honey
02:15:12.220glazed ham uh for for midsummer for one of the meals and a salad i've i've been kind of on a
02:15:19.860little bit of a diet recently and so i i relied on some of the uh the high protein meals and the
02:15:27.380the ham that sierra uh nick gunn and uh the others cooked in the in the kitchen was actually really
02:15:34.620really good so i i'm i would have to say that the best in my memory is the last one so
02:19:57.420and i guess everybody doesn't have to but you know speak up and put your hand up or whatever but did
02:20:04.380any of the folk builders on ever have any doubts about their ability to be a good folk builder
02:20:10.620uh either while they were an apprentice or while they were out of course you can just
02:20:19.420because i'm gonna have to hop off in a second um i get those doubts a lot especially because we have
02:20:25.100such a strong team of folk builders like in odenshoff district but especially odenshoff
02:20:30.140specifically, like Olivia Sutherland is such an amazing folk builder and Ryan was an amazing
02:20:37.400apprentice and I'm sure he's an amazing folk builder now that he's taken his oath, you know, but
02:20:41.460for those to be my teammates, right, I don't feel like I could ever live up to the potential that
02:20:48.820they have set forth and so it causes a lot of doubts but, you know, I have to remind myself
02:20:53.700that we're all great in our own ways. Olivia does things that I can never do and I do things that
02:20:58.580Olivia probably could do but you know what I mean like we all have our different strengths and I
02:21:03.300think that's part of why we work so well together is we're all amazing at different things so when
02:21:10.100I get those doubts I just have to remind myself of where my strengths are and don't compare myself
02:21:14.340to other people because where Ryan is excelling and I may not be I'm still doing okay I'm still
02:21:19.780doing good I just you know maybe not as amazing as Ryan at it because that's his strong suit
02:21:24.580so those doubts definitely come about quite frequently but it's just remembering that
02:21:30.340you know you've got this you can do it and when it gets hard I've got a great team that I can
02:21:35.120rely on to help lift me back up. I would say that on the macro I don't really have any doubts about
02:21:50.620building but on the micro there are times where you don't know what to say to someone you don't
02:21:55.180know how to go about especially when you're friends with someone you don't know how to go
02:22:00.860about going up to them and going hey you know that behavior is not going to work they're just course
02:22:06.460it's it's the little moments like that that didn't provide some level of doubt but i think
02:22:11.660once you just dive in it sorts itself out pretty easily
02:22:14.460I would have to say I haven't ran into many situations I haven't been doing it very long but
02:22:24.980a lot of the times when you're reaching out to people they're some sometimes they're in good
02:22:33.280situations in their life and a lot of times they're not and being able to just listen and
02:22:38.680hear their their story and be supportive where where you can but also be willing to direct them
02:22:46.100in the right direction for uh gothar support uh it it can it can i i've had a lot of moments where
02:22:54.180i sat on in the chair and like just reflected off the conversation that i just had and was like
02:23:00.280i'm i'm glad that we're reaching out to these people i'm glad that we're interacting because
02:23:06.280I don't think they, a lot of people don't have a lot of interaction to, to let these things out or at least get them on the table so they can be fixed. And so I'm not, not in terms of doubt, but in terms of, of a little bit of hardship, it, it, it can be rewarding, but taxing mentally a little bit too.
02:23:29.200so that's what i got well i think he touched up on something really important there is that people
02:23:34.800don't have a lot of outlets to to discuss these things and i think the biggest thing that a member
02:23:41.360could do to get the most out of the experience is show up to events i think it's one of the things
02:23:46.080that we talk about all the things we offer we we have plenty of chats online we have the academy
02:23:51.680we have the prison ministry we have all of these wonderful places these hoffs but
02:23:59.360the meat and potatoes is when you get in person you have these one-on-one conversations you get
02:24:05.440members meeting members walk away friends and eventually become family and that's that's the
02:24:10.560core advice that you give any member is getting out in person to events because that's that's where
02:24:18.320of the magic happens. Absolutely. What else we got? So part of the question, part of my practice
02:24:41.540is reading every morning with a cup of coffee. I'm reading Eric the Red Saga right now. What
02:24:47.440is everybody reading right now that's Ousitru related from Scott Free. Sheila, what are you
02:24:54.240reading currently that's Ousitru related? I am reading and tapping into various
02:25:03.760versions of the Volsunga saga, Sigurd's story, and I feel I want to integrate that into Sigurdloat,
02:25:14.000So I'm really focused on it, and I'm going to come up with ways that that can be interspersed with different parts of our celebration that we all celebrate a week and a half out at Odin's Hof.
02:25:30.260So I've got a beautiful version here that I really like.
02:25:34.800It's kind of old text, very tiny print, though.
02:25:38.040It requires using glasses to read that one.