Asatru Folk Assembly - 7⧸12⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 53 - The Runes

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00:03:00.000 Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Victory Never Sleeps.

00:03:28.400 I believe that he's running a little bit late, so he'll be joining with us here very, very soon.

00:03:38.100 And tonight we were going to start the entirety of a series.

00:03:46.520 And in this, we needed to broach the totality of the runes before we could start to dissect them.

00:03:54.820 Oh, here we are. Perfect timing.

00:03:58.400 hello everybody sorry about that i was thought i'd make it in at the last possible second and

00:04:08.560 then my computer told me it had to restart uh appreciate you holding holding down the fort for

00:04:14.880 us a couple of seconds all right good cool enough um yeah welcome everybody back it's great to talk

00:04:25.760 to you this evening i think svan was giving you a little bit of the rundown but he and i are going

00:04:31.760 to for the next i don't know i got a math but for the next uh seven sessions i believe including

00:04:40.640 today we're going to talk about the runes generally tonight and then we're going to break them off

00:04:50.640 into groups of three and talk about those in our subsequent episodes about the runes um

00:04:59.840 any any question on the runes at any time during any of these is fair game

00:05:05.360 as is any question in general about also true or about uh anything else that

00:05:11.760 you guys would like an answer from us on um oh something i should mention so

00:05:17.920 So good top of the program notes. We are live tonight on Entropy, on YouTube, of course, on Odyssey, on VK, and on Twitter as usual.

00:05:35.480 but we are also uh live tonight on rumble for the first time so anybody joining us on rumble

00:05:44.800 uh hello and i'm glad glad you guys are there we are working on getting that figured out this is

00:05:52.700 kind of our our dry run on that so hopefully that's all working smooth and we can iron out

00:05:59.720 anything we run into on that. Matter of fact, any of our in-house AFA leadership or anybody else

00:06:07.320 who wants to, if you guys want to pop on over on Rumble and view us there, you can give us kind of

00:06:12.100 a heads up and do some scouting for us on how that's working. Also, last opportunity to see if

00:06:27.540 can get any last minute people that might want to join us or be able to join us um but we've got

00:06:34.500 uh sigger bloat at siggerheim coming up next next week uh a week from a week from this saturday so

00:06:44.020 on saturday the 22nd and that's going to be our first major event at siggerheim um it is going to

00:06:51.860 be the the annual event that we're going to celebrate there so this will set a precedent

00:06:59.060 for many years to come it's going to be very exciting i'm really looking forward to showing

00:07:04.580 showing the sigerheim property off to everybody who's going to come there and

00:07:08.820 and give everybody a chance to experience it it's a really amazing place

00:07:13.780 it's going to be kind of rustic going to be some camping going to be

00:07:16.980 outdoors in the in the summer heat so plan accordingly but we would love to have anybody

00:07:23.700 who can make it show up there uh that's going to be in jackson county tennessee if you're

00:07:28.820 interested please get in touch with your folk builder they can get you squared away if you are

00:07:32.740 not a member that's okay but do check with your folk builder first and they can get you vetted

00:07:38.580 make sure that's all squared away but we'd love to see you guys there um without further

00:07:46.980 Oh, I see somebody. I see a couple of people over in the chat. Hey, guys, thank you so much. For those of you that may not know, I was born 42 years ago today. So I appreciate that, everybody. It's a nice way to spend my birthday, getting to talk to you guys and getting to talk to one of my best friends, Svon, on here. It's going to be a good night.

00:08:09.900 birthday well thank you and uh yeah without further ado first can you break down what a

00:08:19.740 rune is what it means what the word means perhaps and then if anybody is completely unfamiliar with

00:08:27.820 the concept of runes could you fill them in on what you think they need to know at the top of

00:08:33.420 the program. That is a, that is a super interesting and often it's like a strange

00:08:41.640 question in, in relation to, uh, you know, what, I guess, where we are to where we were,

00:08:49.320 um, in relation to, uh, first starting out, I guess the best way to say it is a rune is singularly

00:08:57.040 is, um, a symbol in a collection of symbols, um, that would constitute what we would know as an

00:09:06.160 alphabet. Um, so for anybody who doesn't know what the runes are coming at this from a completely

00:09:13.140 open, uh, and, and unspecific point of view, a rune is a singular symbol, and it's often

00:09:21.100 always associated with a particular sequence of runes that would be like an alphabet and we call

00:09:29.140 those futharks the reason why we call it a futhark is because the first set of runes the first six

00:09:37.720 set of runes uh spells out the word futhark so um the series of futharks there are multiple

00:09:50.380 different ones with often multiple different variations of the same sounds and the symbols

00:09:57.140 are very similar but um there could be many different futharks that that we are talking

00:10:03.360 about especially if you consider outside of the germanosphere and we can get into that

00:10:08.220 so one symbol amongst a plethora of symbols that's called a futhark much like alphabet

00:10:15.420 the beginning of it is the sequence um each of the symbols um has a mysterious origin with lots

00:10:26.300 of theories as to exactly where they come from and each symbol represents a sound and that is

00:10:32.540 a key component to understanding once you start to get into more than just the material of what

00:10:41.180 a rune is the sound is uh conducive to the symbol just like any other alphabet um each letter has

00:10:51.900 a name each name has uh you know a kind of a semi-connective uh meaning to the symbol itself

00:11:02.780 in certain ways, depending on who you talk to. And ultimately, the sounds are seen as

00:11:15.740 powerful forces within the creation of the world. So this is where it starts to kind of jump

00:11:23.540 outside of a normal alphabet. There are many people that have speculative ideas as to the

00:11:30.940 meanings of the runes. Various people throughout history, and we'll go over the ages of runes

00:11:38.500 that we know of, but as the ages have gone on, the theories of the meanings of the runes has

00:11:49.780 developed over time and has different meanings amongst different people, depending on

00:11:56.380 who you talk to, or different schools of thought. But these ancient meanings are often interpreted

00:12:03.280 both in a divinatory practice, in which there's like a random drawing of these symbols,

00:12:11.360 and these symbols are read, and the meanings of each of the symbols has portents to,

00:12:17.420 say, a question or something of a time. The other way that people look at it is that there is an

00:12:25.060 ability to um take the meaning of that rune and implement its its inclinations into the world

00:12:35.260 and in that case it would be like uh projecting an idea or a motivation into the world through

00:12:42.760 uh the process of of like producing the symbol and then that symbol could then manifest or perhaps

00:12:50.980 uh incline fate to uh go in a direction or say willfully guide fate into a direction so they're

00:13:02.340 the the runes are an alphabet that has esoteric meaning oftentimes in different forms but mainly

00:13:10.260 in divination and through um or or uh the projection of symbolic um i would say uh like

00:13:19.300 an esoteric art form like magic in a sense um there are other forms that have shown up over

00:13:26.400 time though like there is even um you know a uh a movement in which you're you know placing your

00:13:33.260 body in the same positions as the symbols of the runes for various reasons whether it's been for

00:13:38.740 martial arts whether it's been for health in in regards to stretching and and um strength or even

00:13:46.000 lymphatic drainage. It's a developing system within our religion. And you don't have to be

00:13:56.780 also true to know about the runes. The runes have been kind of placed out there oftentimes

00:14:00.920 separately from the faith. And not every also true knows the runes or uses the runes in any

00:14:10.360 particular manner that I've described. They just know perhaps the symbol and the meaning behind

00:14:15.500 the rune um or the vocalization of the sound and uh so you can be an ausitru and know about the

00:14:26.700 runes but not necessarily be a practitioner or a believer in the way that the runes uh correlate

00:14:33.420 to the world around us there are people that do though i mean i i came into ausitru because of

00:14:38.940 the runes uh my interest was uh something electrified me uh when i was younger and i was

00:14:45.340 reading um tolkien's books and i i saw the border writings um and his his symbols are based off of

00:14:53.260 the anglo-saxon futhork and um yeah it just it uh inspired me and it lit a fire in my mind that i

00:15:03.980 began looking into where the runes came from what did they mean and that led me down the path of

00:15:11.180 uh finding out that that my ancestors had a faith that there was a faith before christianity

00:15:17.020 amongst my people and that ignited everything so just a basic overview of that as the runes are

00:15:27.900 um in the uh thumbnail for the video the the uh one of the most common futharks that that we use

00:15:37.900 um is used and it's called the elder futhark there again there's many different futharks

00:15:43.740 that have been used throughout the ages and it's worth noting that um have morphed and changed over

00:15:49.260 time um the uh some of that have dropped in number have expanded in number and there's multiple

00:15:56.540 theories behind it and so rune lore as it's often referred to is kind of a um i joke and say it's

00:16:06.140 like a religion within the religion in the sense that there's much there's there's esoteric mysteries

00:16:11.740 involved in runic studies um that have brought in historians there's even people that hold degrees

00:16:19.820 in it um and their translations um mainly because of the second era of runes the um the younger era

00:16:27.500 as it's often referred to is the viking time frame in which um a lot of things were happening

00:16:32.540 and stones were being written so a lot of people you know do translations but for for a beginner

00:16:39.980 that's just something worth noting there's about 24 and the most common futhark that is used is

00:16:46.220 the elder futhark and we can go into the reasons why it's called elder and younger but that's

00:16:51.340 just a brief overview so something i think is important for us to start um

00:17:03.980 we we use this word interchangeably and i think or i mean we apply meaning to it interchangeably

00:17:12.060 But as a fundamental kind of touchstone to remember, the word rune means esoteric.

00:17:23.900 It means hidden or mystery.

00:17:27.400 It implies secret.

00:17:30.060 The rune in and of itself is the meaning behind the letter.

00:17:34.020 the collection of lines that we also all myself included refer to as the runes

00:17:42.020 they are a sigil of the mystery behind all of the meaning that is contained in that sigil

00:17:54.880 So. Just as something to keep in mind, the rune is the mystery that the letter describes.

00:18:05.040 The rune is not the letter in its most fundamental sense.

00:18:08.540 Now, yes, we will for the rest of whatever, we'll talk about the runes and we're talking about the little stick drawing on a rock or a piece of wood or whatever the case is that we're doing.

00:18:20.660 but do keep in mind the the meat is what that sigil represents not the sigil itself um

00:18:30.820 and i think it was a key point i glossed over and you definitely hit the the meaning of the word

00:18:36.260 rune meaning a a mystery it can often be uh you know it's interpreted as a whisper or a roar

00:18:43.060 uh both of them have been kind of used in inscriptions um so the sound is

00:18:51.220 absolutely uh pivotal as well as the meaning um but i've you know i glossed over that the actual

00:18:58.420 what a what a rune is as opposed to the word like sigil or symbol or which is a more of the latin

00:19:04.660 based um and so i think um another

00:19:09.460 and i believe that this is true with all magic in a holy sense not in a carnival sense i think

00:19:25.120 that in a holy sense all magic is an art and not a science and that being said it is a medium to

00:19:37.180 convey intent or your intent shapes the parameters of the medium. So I'm seeing a lot of questions

00:19:45.220 and we'll answer them all individually, but one important touchstone, I guess, because as Fawn

00:19:54.760 mentioned, there's a lot of different schools of thought about the runes and about how to utilize

00:19:59.840 them, different ways different people utilize them. And again, it would be much more convenient

00:20:07.360 if I stood here and told you, no, there's one right way and I'm going to tell you how to do it

00:20:10.780 and everything else is wrong and it's not quite that clear. There are absolutely wrong ways to do

00:20:15.600 it, but there's lots of different right ways to do it as well. And one of the things that makes

00:20:21.240 it meaningful is the intent of the practitioner on how they do it. And that'll make more sense

00:20:27.100 as we go along before we go any further we do have a monetized um comment over on entropy i

00:20:34.220 appreciate that it's from cody it's five dollar uh tip on there and wishing me a happy birthday

00:20:39.740 and i appreciate that if you guys do want to do tips or super chats and get your questions up top

00:20:46.540 we've got that on entropy and we also i believe have that engaged on rumble so somebody go over

00:20:54.060 rumble and test that out for me i'm really curious how that works out tonight the free

00:20:59.020 speech nature of that platform makes it really attractive for us to want to want to be supportive

00:21:04.780 of um lots more we can go into but it's it's a broad topic we'll take detours to elaborate on

00:21:16.060 different stuff but i think it would do us best to start hitting some of the questions and we can see

00:21:21.820 kind of kind of where the conversation goes oh first question nice up front this time uh

00:21:31.820 from robert eboy lee putting this in the question queue first gentlemen how are you doing tonight

00:21:39.580 swan how are you doing i'm doing great uh hey he got it in there fast because sometimes it shows

00:21:46.060 up after some uh some tough questions and then it's like a nice little reprieve i am doing great

00:21:52.860 lots of family in town been extremely busy for the last almost two weeks now so but everything

00:22:00.380 is good everyone is happy everyone is safe and it is it is great to be here

00:22:06.540 yeah i'm uh i'm doing good too having a real good day so far everything's been great looking forward

00:22:12.620 to this really excited about sigerheim next week i'm just chomping at the bit to get out there and

00:22:18.860 a lot of recon on the surrounding communities i want to do uh there's some gyms in the area i

00:22:25.340 want to check out so i know you know where i'm going to be able to work out when i move down

00:22:29.820 and all kind of stuff so i'm doing really doing really good my daughter and i went out and had

00:22:34.940 breakfast this morning which was she's three so you never know how that's going to go but it was

00:22:40.700 it was lovely she did great i'm proud of her she's growing up so uh yeah doing fantastic

00:22:47.900 what's next um

00:22:53.980 witness fun what are your motivations behind creating the folk food arc and can you tell

00:22:59.660 us a little bit about it i was i was hoping that this would come towards the latter end um

00:23:05.500 But I know some people have, it's been everywhere from an interest to even a controversy, I think.

00:23:14.140 One of the big things I think that should be noted about the Folk Futhark is that the Folk Futhark is based off of all of the Futharks that have come before.

00:23:27.240 So it's more of a nod or to pay homage to all the Futharks.

00:23:32.560 It's not a reinvention of the runes.

00:23:35.500 It's not an attempt to create something that's our own, but yet, you know, disregarding anything from the past.

00:23:44.100 Not at all. It is absolutely a pull from all of the Futharks, Elder, Younger, Anglo-Saxon, the Armanin, and even the medieval German manuscripts.

00:23:58.800 scripts. There's two or two are in there. It was my intention to create a baseline rule

00:24:05.740 for reading and writing runes in order to use in art at the Hoffs. So when we're, you

00:24:17.480 know, when I'm painting the Godsteds at the Hoffs, I wanted to convey ideas through the

00:24:26.620 runes to both to induce inspiration like it inspired me um to create uh you know messaging

00:24:36.380 that be able to pass on messaging even beyond uh in generations of our of our church so

00:24:44.140 you know the the the biggest problem that people have faced is that there are many different food

00:24:48.540 arts and there are many different ways to implement the writing system of those food

00:24:55.020 arcs some people do it phonetically some people just copy their current modern um you know form

00:25:02.540 of speech and grammar um so there's there is a lot of undecidedness that i think people have

00:25:10.220 so what one of the benefits of being the church of aussitrew is to set okay we're going to use

00:25:16.220 all of the futharks and we're going to uh use a set system so that we can pass on ideas and this

00:25:23.740 way we can you know entice people to learn about the runes all the different food arts and um go

00:25:30.380 from a pious stance of passing on um messages through the through the murals um while at the

00:25:41.980 same time hoping that people will look into the esoteric if you will so that was the real that was

00:25:47.740 the real inspiration behind it it wasn't a sense that we're going to reinvent the wheel not at all

00:25:53.260 i mean that's ridiculous especially if uh with origins of the runes there is a divine origin

00:25:59.900 of the runes that um you know uh is is laid upon the table there and i would never attempt to

00:26:08.780 segue that in some way shape or form but a lot of times people don't pay homage to

00:26:15.580 the futharks that have that have developed over the the the currently fifth age that we're in of

00:26:21.660 runes so i think it's worth noting that so that was my inspiration if you go to the hoffs and

00:26:27.900 you look at the murals you will see things written in runic it's in the folk futhark

00:26:32.940 which was just a convenient way of saying a hybrid of all the futharks that have come before

00:26:39.020 it's just an easier way to say it and uh and we have a set kind of system in in which those runes

00:26:45.500 are implemented in to to read in english though it could the rules could apply if uh say there

00:26:52.700 were members in germany or members um you know in in uh sweden that were wishing to you know

00:27:00.700 applicate the the folk food art for writing messages uh the rules would you know are broad

00:27:06.700 enough that they could they could apply despite the differences so that's an important thing guys

00:27:13.820 the folk futhark isn't it's the elder futhark with slightly different

00:27:19.580 pictures that's all it is is uh a combination of all the different runic systems that we

00:27:27.580 are aware of with just you know different variants on the rune shapes

00:27:33.740 implementing the exact same meaning the exact same linguistics of the elder futhark as we understand

00:27:39.340 it um what's next here

00:27:49.980 uh i think it's also worth noting that for a lot of people that are coming into this into the

00:27:54.940 when we talk about like the elder or the younger is that we are basing our understanding of the

00:28:01.740 runes on archaeological finds there are some archaeological finds of evidence of the runes

00:28:09.180 in their full entirety as a as an alphabet as we know the word to mean um there are very few

00:28:17.260 but there are some very old ones that go up uh back just before you know the the the first century

00:28:27.820 the of uh ad or common era or whatever you want to call it um that uh have come about where we

00:28:36.060 have a full in uh like i guess what would it be called uh i mean it's the full alphabet i guess

00:28:43.340 the the instead of it being a message without knowing fully where one ends and one begins as

00:28:49.260 the entirety of the alphabet or the futhark we have some that are listed out in completion

00:28:54.860 with symbol showing there is an end so now we know we have a framework and so any of those

00:29:01.260 that follow in that time frame are called the elder futhark or the elder runes if you will

00:29:10.140 um all right so next question uh aren't they just an alphabet for rituals and magic uh no

00:29:19.900 not actually first yes they are an alphabet that you can use in rituals and magic certainly

00:29:26.540 they're not just that though there are many other things and even even in

00:29:33.580 it's one of the things the further you go back the detail you have on how our ancestors

00:29:39.660 use them and put them into practice becomes sketchier and sketchier but one thing that's

00:29:44.860 obvious from things like inscriptions in the Hagia Sophia they're oftentimes viking used vikings use

00:29:55.820 them for graffiti it literally says something like you know Sven or whoever the the viking dude was

00:30:02.300 here and that's the thing so they were used often for mundane writing for very common just linguistic

00:30:10.940 purposes they were also used um certainly for for magical purposes but i think it would be

00:30:23.020 i think it would be far too limiting not to acknowledge that you know quite a bit of them

00:30:27.500 and especially as time progressed out of the the ousatru era they've been used very consistently

00:30:35.820 for just mundane writing um but they also have deep spiritual context and as this may be i guess

00:30:43.740 contained depending on how you're asking the question but as far as writing for for use in

00:30:47.900 rituals they're also used um for divination with our ancestors and you know even tacitus writes

00:30:55.980 about that um outside of as a writing tool they're used as a as a uh

00:31:10.380 hmm i'm trying to think of what the word i'm looking for is they're used as a

00:31:15.100 sound as a speaking tool to meditate on to harmonize with to chant

00:31:23.340 um spoken word chanting and the intoning of sound is one of the biggest keys to magic since you

00:31:36.060 know the ancestral times it's one of those very root keys and magical action it's inherent in

00:31:43.580 in Ymir and his name, in Odin and his name, the idea of these kind of powerful utterances,

00:31:53.800 these sounds, these chants, these incantations, if you will, are very much at the root of all

00:32:01.880 Western Aryan magic. And so runes are, and their associated sound they make are very important

00:32:11.700 that way too outside of just a written context you have anything to add's fun yeah well i definitely

00:32:21.220 um as you had said like there's another uh name uh emir's name is all yelmer and all yelmer

00:32:29.620 literally means the terrible roar the terrible sounding um so yes the the idea of utilizing

00:32:36.500 these sounds both in linguistics but also in the manifestation of what could be described as

00:32:42.500 willful intent within the world through the usage of sound uh through the usage of the symbol um

00:32:51.380 and the lore that's built around that um is how i think a lot of the runic possibilities are

00:32:57.460 manifested but they can be as mundane as as you had said i was here ago these you know i there

00:33:02.180 was even one in uh scotland where it was a it was a woman telling her husband he was in trouble um

00:33:08.740 there was uh there it's it's been utilized in various ways throughout four major um epochs or

00:33:18.740 epics of of time uh and so there's a lot to go on and i think if when when people get very very

00:33:26.100 definitive um outside of our our period of runic history um it gets it gets interesting but it's

00:33:37.380 worth noting like uh i would i would say that there are five epics and this is based off of

00:33:43.540 dr flowers edward thorson's pen name uh that his four uh epics of time which is the elder the

00:33:52.420 younger the middle the revival and now i believe that we are in the reclamation age in which we

00:34:00.820 uh reclaim the runes as a religious um expression and reunite the runic um systems with religion

00:34:14.180 in and of itself because like i said before religions are not uh beholden to the runes

00:34:20.420 in the sense that you could actually pick up a runic book and has no real solid um connections

00:34:27.460 to ousatru or at least legitimate ones too sometimes they do make claim but it's not often

00:34:33.380 the case and um we are moving back to where uh the the uh i would say the birthright of

00:34:44.740 ausatru itself and of you know ethnic religion amongst the germanic peoples the runes um have

00:34:52.980 absolute um necessity and and the and the right to be reclaimed back um and i think a lot of people

00:35:00.980 have a lot of arguments against that in various ways because they just kind of place it along

00:35:06.500 with other divination uh or magical systems that you know in an in this eclectic age they have no

00:35:13.620 mooring or no uh anchoring towards any sort of ethnic group and it's kind of just all open to

00:35:19.620 whoever wants to use them and we are uh again taking that and and allowing ourselves to um

00:35:29.060 you know pivot and point in our in our direction as to where we are going to go

00:35:33.940 with the runic knowledge based within the faith or coinciding with the faith

00:35:40.180 that all right so oh we have a monetized um super chat question over on rumble appreciate you guys

00:35:54.020 checking out on rumble i appreciate our audience there i hope to see that grow and be successful

00:35:58.660 for us our first rumble donation of five dollars much appreciated is from kevin asking how to use

00:36:08.420 the runes in a manly fashion to avoid seem seeming argor i was assuming he means ergi

00:36:18.820 yeah area um yeah to use uh so and svan can elaborate on this quite a bit um

00:36:28.100 um I think that I don't think there is the same stigma to cross gender use of runic magic that

00:36:40.940 there is to say their magic whereas say their magic is inherently

00:36:48.080 practiced more often by women in our tradition um runic magic in and of itself is inherently

00:36:57.960 more masculine so i think if you want to do magic things and you're choosing

00:37:02.120 runes as your your way of doing that you're already on the right foot starting out that way 0.98

00:37:08.040 yeah so okay other than making the distinction that Sather traditionally is practiced by women

00:37:20.460 and there was a stigma to it if men practiced it and we can go into that later if people have

00:37:25.980 questions on why that is runic magic um be it written spells or

00:37:35.900 chance incantations were inherently masculine and most of the examples that we have

00:37:43.580 you know i hesitate to say all but to my mind all that i can think of that we have

00:37:47.660 of examples of runic magic in our war have been men and male practitioners so i think

00:37:54.460 you're safe from the uh the taint of erdy on that one but uh svan might have some some additional

00:38:00.860 insight yeah i think if we're talking about i think if you look out on the internet if you look

00:38:06.620 out in just a general sense if we're talking about this in the subject of masculinity and femininity

00:38:11.580 and and for people that are new to the subject even if you're also true or just new in general

00:38:17.660 the idea that uh there's like two kind of internal magic systems within alsatru

00:38:23.820 that manifest amongst members who uh you know believe in their usage so you don't have to be

00:38:30.860 be uh alsatru to use the runes in the sense that you can find them in books but also too

00:38:37.580 you don't have to use them if you are alsatru uh there are people who you know have variant

00:38:43.420 different beliefs as to where they go. And this leads us to, uh, the mentioning of Cedar or Cedar

00:38:50.500 Cedar is, um, is, uh, a magic form. That's, um, been defined as feminine and it's practitioners.

00:39:00.220 Uh, a lot of people will say like, uh, that, you know, that it's unmasculine, um, to practice it

00:39:06.640 in its form, whatever, uh, speculative theories as to how it was practiced. Cause a lot of people,

00:39:11.980 um don't know exactly how it was practiced um however it's just worth noting that the practitioners

00:39:20.940 of saether uh by a broad definition are usually females there's no there's no it seems to be an

00:39:29.660 art exclusive or in conducive to the feminine spirit so take that for what that is but the

00:39:36.060 the runes don't seem to be that case the runes are utilized uh often in in uh the uh the lore and

00:39:45.720 the stories uh whether it's you know carving them upon uh you know blades and upon stones but both

00:39:53.460 men and women are masculine and feminine uh has not really been kind of correlated to the runes

00:39:59.700 A perfect example would be, you know, when with Sigurd the dragon slayer, when he awakens the Valkyrie or Valkyrie and she blesses him with runic knowledge, she knows it and she gives it to him.

00:40:14.840 another example would be like an eric saga where there is a uh a woman who's called a safe corner

00:40:21.200 but she is marked as having her her um lots oftentimes are referred to as lots uh like from

00:40:28.860 the bible the random uh dropping of of tines or sticks to read uh that she has a pouch on her

00:40:37.100 her belt um and though she doesn't do it in the story it's still marked that she has her lots

00:40:43.960 hanging from her belt. So, uh, runic magic or runic, uh, esoteric art, um, seems to be less

00:40:55.740 built around that because say there seems to be from a feminine source as to the, uh, the usage

00:41:03.280 of practitioner of it, where women are kind of, they are the, the, um, the ones who do it because

00:41:09.480 it requires having a feminine spirit and i think that it's worth noting that that they saw value

00:41:15.880 in that it's even marked it's remarked by tacitus um and i saw a question earlier so i wanted to

00:41:21.960 look it up but i you know um tacitus is uh observations of the germanics having great

00:41:29.320 value in the auspices of women i think he's referring to their usage of dream interpretations

00:41:35.640 and uh more like a shamanic style of um practitioners often done by by women

00:41:43.640 so runic magic has not doesn't really have a lot of that so you to say like how can i use them to

00:41:51.800 be more to to not get into that trap is is that the the trap is not necessarily there that you're

00:41:59.640 not going to fall into it the usage of it uh it's just finding you know valuable information

00:42:05.640 there's a lot of information out there so finding it valuable and uh clear and concise for the level

00:42:11.000 you're at so i'm gonna correct something i'm seeing in the chat just as a as a point of fact

00:42:18.680 the odinus temple in uh in england isn't owned by the odinic right it's owned by a group called the

00:42:26.600 odinist fellowship and not not the the olden days odinist fellowship of lc christensen's time but

00:42:36.520 a group under the name the odinist fellowship and they don't have a lot of information out there on

00:42:45.800 what they are how to get a hold of them and i think a lot of their stuff is built around kind

00:42:50.120 of group cost sharing of using that temple but that's not an odenic right temple to the best

00:42:57.080 of my knowledge i don't know if they have some affiliation with this group or not but it's it's

00:43:01.000 owned by a group called the ognus fellowship um our next question our second monetized question

00:43:09.160 bumping it up to the top of the super chat over on rumble thank you so much we really appreciate it

00:43:15.880 your donations mean a lot and we put them to a good call rumbles kicking off no rumbles awesome

00:43:21.240 i'm really excited about rumble you can have some nick i've been bothering him about it all week

00:43:26.440 how can we learn the folk futhark is there a booklet slash paper i would like to burn them

00:43:32.920 and use them on wood it's fun tell people how they can know more about the folk futhark i see

00:43:40.600 that nick posted a graphic other than quick taking a screenshot of something or that

00:43:46.120 is that posted and available somewhere can can somebody post that somewhere

00:43:54.440 i i mean the image itself uh you know i is available it's been kind of going around on

00:43:59.160 our social media but pause i misspoke certainly someone can post it somewhere somewhere will

00:44:04.920 somebody volunteer to take that picture and post it up on our social media somewhere or in a place

00:44:09.640 that these folks can access that more readily yeah if you're interested in the folk food art

00:44:14.920 remember it's then you are interested in all the food arcs that have formulated it so that's what

00:44:21.640 the intention was was to inspire but if you're talking about utilizing it specifically in um

00:44:28.520 in regards to the murals or something of that nature um i would say the best thing to understand

00:44:34.600 is that it is running under the rules that are applied to the elder futhark so there's not much

00:44:43.000 other than the the variations of the way that the the symbols are written if you're familiar

00:44:49.080 with the elder futhark and if you're not become familiar with the elder futhark as far as the

00:44:54.520 linguistic rules we we had to encounter the idea of transmitting ideas in a set way and so

00:45:04.600 the general rule is, is that we decided to go with a, a, uh, an equivalency, whatever your native

00:45:12.740 language is, the utilizing the sounds that are available in the elder futhark or in the folk

00:45:19.520 futhark as an ability, as, as one for one. There are some variations with certain, um, uh, runes,

00:45:27.540 like perfect example is that um the s sound in utilization with the letter c so like the word

00:45:34.820 city or um the word uh like cyst or something of that nature uh you know you would use the s

00:45:42.740 because there is technically no um uh c equivalency to s you know that we have a k sound and we have

00:45:52.500 have an s sound so if it's a word that's spelled with a c you know you you would uh you would use

00:45:59.000 the s sound so there are some things like that or there's a double e sound that we utilize as well

00:46:03.920 um as far as the formulation of it generally there well there hasn't been anything

00:46:10.800 officially written out in order to teach people how to read the murals it's for for the most part

00:46:17.680 laid out in the sense that you would follow the rules of the elder futhark but there are some

00:46:22.140 nuances that are again utilized because uh in in um modern english we have a lot of latin words

00:46:30.060 so this creates an interesting environment when it comes to translating things and uh the

00:46:36.620 also true folk assembly has no problem using latin words or latin based words to express ideas

00:46:42.540 because it'd be foolish to say you know that we don't you know many great ideas are that we are

00:46:48.700 hybrid language now and they're both of this you know of arian origins so that you know to nitpick

00:46:54.460 it that far but uh when doing so that that creates some interesting translational stuff

00:47:00.140 uh when it comes to writing in runic um i think that um for members of the of the astro folks

00:47:06.060 suddenly i would like to you know maybe hold some video classes on uh explaining how to utilize it

00:47:12.300 and read it um as far as the availability outside of the afa i i don't foresee it coming to any

00:47:18.700 sense where it's going to be, you know, dished out to folks on a market level, if you will.

00:47:28.060 All right. What do you think about the idea that people now do rune readings? Is that based in

00:47:40.700 history or not? Or maybe or maybe not? But could the modern spiritual ways they're now used in

00:47:48.280 still work so there is a lot there the principle of using runes for divination

00:47:59.400 the earliest instance that i am aware of is something we've already mentioned in the broadcast

00:48:05.960 but uh in tacitus germania they describe using runes in in a divinatory way so rune readings

00:48:16.040 go back at least that far now tacitus was want to say that he was writing

00:48:28.920 during the reign of nero but i'm not certain a lot of his events and things that he would describe

00:48:37.000 were contemporary and in augustus's reign so it's very early like the transition from from bc to ad

00:48:46.920 times that we're talking about germanic tribes being observed doing runic divination now is the

00:48:54.920 way that we do it now anything remotely similar to the way that they did it back then i don't know

00:49:00.280 I think that it would be presumptuous to say that it is, but this is something that I want to harken back to at the beginning of the broadcast that I mentioned.

00:49:11.080 What makes the magic most effective is the spiritual might of the practitioner coupled with their intent and the context that they put it in.

00:49:21.080 runes are very much a tool in the hand of the magus on what parameters he sets if he's going

00:49:33.980 to use them in that way so you can't like make the rules up after you do your rune cast because

00:49:39.560 then you'll you know you can make up whatever you want but if you have a clear intention and a clear

00:49:44.720 understanding of what the rules are before you do it then there's a lot of different methods people

00:49:49.400 use all of which can be correct depending upon the the paradigm set out by the the practitioner

00:49:57.640 before they do it um so there's certainly lots and lots of modern and pre-modern innovations

00:50:07.160 done to the way that a lot of us do uh rune readings or rune divination today but it is

00:50:14.200 based on something that the concept of using them for divinatory purposes is you know time honored

00:50:21.080 and ancient yeah the excerpt from tacitus and i'm not going to read the whole thing but it says

00:50:27.720 for divination and the casting of lots they have the highest regard their procedure in

00:50:33.080 casting lots is always the same they cut off a branch from a nut bearing tree and there's

00:50:39.000 actually some belief a fruit bearing nut bearing or seed bearing um in that translation and they

00:50:46.200 slice it into strips and they mark them with different signs and throw them completely at

00:50:53.160 random upon a white cloth um and i won't read the rest of it but in tacitus germania they do kind of

00:51:00.120 reference that and certain schools do that i mean if you um meet uh runic practitioners um

00:51:06.280 Um, uh, they, there are some, including, uh, the school that I, I learned from, um, in casting,

00:51:14.860 uh, them randomly upon a white cloth in order to, um, discern things. And this is, this is,

00:51:23.600 again, an ancient tradition that's been amongst almost all, um, you know, cultures. So ours is

00:51:31.020 no different um it's just that over time and those those uh you know the usage of the runes

00:51:37.240 has developed and changed and the medians in which they're used as well and some people have

00:51:42.080 different i've seen even up until now where people use it like cards like almost like tarot cards and

00:51:47.840 you might meet people that are like that's absolutely ridiculous and other people that

00:51:51.380 say that it has validity um you know we're trying to give a neutral approach for people to to kind

00:51:57.480 of get a foothold into the uh the entirety of it but yeah svan is i'm trying to give you guys a

00:52:07.400 biased approach what i think's good and what i think's bs but i do i do preface that

00:52:15.000 so much of it um okay so i think this is a good time to venture into this um

00:52:23.240 Um, runes are absolutely objective forces of the universe that exist.

00:52:37.140 They are also absolutely messages from perhaps dead ancestors.

00:52:45.160 They are messages from the gods.

00:52:48.420 they are also internal things and messages from your subconscious they are all of those things

00:52:55.300 at once and sometimes all of them sometimes a few of them sometimes a random collection of them in

00:53:01.860 between they are many many different things and they i like to think of them as a lens to help

00:53:11.300 you focus the things so if you have a question that you ask of the runes or that you want insight on

00:53:19.540 the runes provide you with insight some of the insight comes from within some of it comes from

00:53:24.580 without so much of it has to do with you channeling your thoughts your feelings

00:53:33.780 through that lens the practitioner is such an active part of rune magic

00:53:40.980 that it makes things that might seem silly to other people very relevant if they're meaningful

00:53:49.460 to you now if you use runes like tarot cards is that the way i use runes no do i think it is 0.81

00:54:00.300 completely and totally ridiculous. That was an asterisk. I don't know a lot about tarot cards.

00:54:05.400 So on the face of it, I don't think the concept is silly. I've seen people who have made runic

00:54:12.980 dice and they'll roll dice to get the runes to randomize. I know people that have come up with

00:54:23.040 computer programs that are randomized where you press a button and it'll randomize or as close

00:54:29.000 to real randomization as as a computer algorithm will do um there are a lot of different ways that

00:54:37.000 you can do it that might be very very meaningful to you but might be really silly for me and not

00:54:43.560 effective because i don't take it seriously so much of the efficacy of these magical practices

00:54:51.400 have to do with how serious you take them how much of your hymenia of your spiritual might you invest

00:55:02.280 in your magical practice that's going to make a big difference on the result you get or don't

00:55:08.680 and whatever parameters you know again if you're just doing a runic reading generically by yourself

00:55:16.840 and you want to use, I don't know, pink tarot cards, you do you. If you're calling upon the

00:55:25.080 gods and asking that they intercede and speak through the runes to you, then it's important

00:55:31.480 not only that you're doing something legitimate to you, but also doing something that you're not

00:55:37.260 embarrassed to do before the gods. But again, there's a lot that goes into it. But just because

00:55:45.560 it's not ancient i don't think that affects whether it's uh effective or not yeah and i

00:55:52.680 would like to point out i'm doing it neutral with the intent for for the for the people listening

00:55:58.360 i have a very very biased opinion about the usage of the runes and anybody outside of

00:56:02.920 that i i you know i i was taught by someone and it passed down to me so anything outside of that

00:56:10.200 doesn't have a great amount of validity but um at the same time you know that's that's a

00:56:16.600 you know the intent is to make it neutral for everyone to kind of start to digest the information

00:56:23.480 if you will so something else that i would say and again because it is so much dependent upon

00:56:29.720 the magician more so than it is on the technique if you were the world's greatest scholar at

00:56:40.520 ancient divinatory practices and you were trying to do a rune pull for me that was the most

00:56:45.960 authentic you know your runes are you dug these runes up out of some kind of an archaeological

00:56:53.320 dig in in trondheim and these are you know legitimate viking age runes and all of that

00:57:01.720 would mean less to me than if you're just some rando then if you are someone who i believe is

00:57:09.880 spiritually powerful i mentioned patricia hall who did that amazing amazing dcr blow that was

00:57:19.400 the most powerful spiritual experience i've ever had um 0.94

00:57:25.560 she is an immensely powerful woman spiritually and if she were to do a room whatever she decides 1.00

00:57:34.520 whatever cockamamie crazy ideas she may have on how she wants to do her rune pulls i would trust 0.93

00:57:40.120 that a hundred times more than i would trust the most scholastic approach to it because again

00:57:46.280 she is spiritually effective i have seen that effect happen i have seen it have

00:57:52.760 visceral effects in the real world therefore i trust that much more than i do

00:58:00.280 you know the the scholasticism religion and magic aren't about scholastics they're

00:58:07.160 about whether or not you are able to manipulate the subtle forces of the universe and make things

00:58:13.240 happen and the one is much more important than the other um next question comes from gothe trent east

00:58:24.760 i'll tell you gothe and witten harrell how do you each of you do room pulls do you only do them for

00:58:31.240 holy tides for example do you pull one room or three it's fun um to the extent that you feel

00:58:39.560 comfortable if you could kind of tell folks you know the the broad strokes of how you do runic

00:58:46.120 pulls and for what purpose you do them i have always been of the uh of the mindset that the

00:58:55.000 the initiator of pulling runes is based on need and uh oftentimes i'm very reluctant to do it

00:59:04.440 because um i've had more than a handful i'll say more far more than a handful of incidences in which

00:59:14.840 i'm understanding what uh what is coming or seeing uh what is perhaps uh as as all of weird

00:59:23.640 is weaving itself knowing what's coming is not always a blessing so um my

00:59:31.000 I, it's based greatly on need.

00:59:34.920 For myself, I very rarely do it unless the need is great.

00:59:39.980 For others, it depends on the need as well,

00:59:45.220 but based around kind of talking and counseling to the person

00:59:48.820 and seeing how they feel about it or what their intentions are.

00:59:52.840 And if I feel that it's, it's merited, then, then we,

00:59:57.880 I will consider it.

01:00:00.600 Um, outside of that, the only night that I really pull runes like as a yearly thing is in, during Yule on Odin's night. Um, that's a night that I generally hold off towards, um, all manners of auspices, uh, you know, sometimes dripping pewter and, um, uh, doing like any sort of, uh, traditional European styles of, of divination practices.

01:00:27.620 For me, that night is usually the night that I draw runes. I do them randomly and I draw three runes on a white cloth that I have used for many, many, many, many, many years.

01:00:41.700 And then I read them in accordance to the way I was taught by my teacher in order to, you know, see as the events unfold, as the past and the present begin to weave a future present, if you will.

01:01:02.120 um i like to be really sparing and how often i do runic pulls as well i think

01:01:14.940 there's something to be said for keeping it special it's not a party trick it's not you

01:01:22.920 know like let's play with the magic eight ball it's a very serious thing and if you want serious

01:01:29.560 results, I think that's something you ought to do, is be very deliberate and very sparing

01:01:41.000 in how oftenly you do it. And only do it for things that are significant. I don't often

01:01:55.960 do rune pulls so i uh i don't have any any set dates that i do them on i know sometimes it's

01:02:05.000 auspicious at different you know different times of the year different moon cycles different

01:02:09.960 holidays to to do runic work um but i do it more occasion based so one time that's the most often

01:02:23.640 that i do a runic poll these days is when performing a baby naming one of the things

01:02:29.320 that i do in a baby naming is i ask for each of the three nor near to bless the child with

01:02:39.160 with with the gift of a rune to put their life into perspective

01:02:43.720 and you know our three our three norns uh mother earth being representing the past and where where

01:02:50.600 someone comes from and uh mother verdandi being the present moment the present time

01:02:58.520 and mother scold being what ought to happen or a trajectory towards the future

01:03:05.960 and so that's what's in my head when i do the rune pull um in that scenario i like to when

01:03:15.720 i'm doing rune pulls in general do them sequentially three runes do a past present

01:03:22.680 and future for lack of a better term but a little bit deeper than that a

01:03:29.240 what the genesis of a situation is a better a rune to better understand

01:03:35.720 how we got here a rune to better understand where we are in the moment and then with those

01:03:45.160 to in mind a rune to shed light on on where that will go in the future where that's headed

01:03:54.200 and so that's the context that i that i draw runes in i usually always do the three rune pull

01:04:01.240 um important and i didn't for a while not on purpose i just wasn't thinking

01:04:07.720 when you draw a rune put it back in the bag to draw again for the next one if you're drawing

01:04:13.640 three of them because there's plenty, and this is, this is just me talking. I'm sure there's

01:04:18.960 context to where whatever, but when I do it, I think it's perfectly valid for you to pull the

01:04:25.660 same rune three times if you want to in that sequence. So it's important to remember to put

01:04:30.900 it back in there. So you have the chance of, of bringing it out again. Um, yeah, I will do that.

01:04:42.140 if some, I'll do that, like I said, on naming ceremonies, that's, that's the time I often do it.

01:04:47.320 And I'll do it if someone asks me to. I did one. And I was, this was really cool. I was asked to

01:04:57.680 do one at a wedding one time. And they wanted me to do a live room poll about their wedding. Like

01:05:05.320 do it live in the middle of the ceremony, just go in cold. And

01:05:11.360 first, I don't know what I'm going to get. And I don't know if it's going to be good,

01:05:20.240 bad or otherwise. Secondly, I don't know how they all fit together. And I've got to spend

01:05:27.920 enough time thinking on it to get the connections to to realize that you know these are powerful

01:05:35.600 mysteries and it's you got to do some thinking and some meditating on these things to make a

01:05:42.400 a cogent understanding of them and it was absolutely magical i forget and i hope the

01:05:51.280 couple remembers what what the three runes were but they were perfect they made perfect sense it

01:05:56.880 was clear as day and it was it's those subtle things like the sky doesn't open up and like

01:06:03.280 the earthquake and lightning happens and when magical things happen sometimes it's just the

01:06:09.120 perfect thing at the perfect moment and that's very much what this was and it was it was really

01:06:14.720 kind of cool so i did it then do it at namings but i also will do it if somebody asks me if in

01:06:21.600 the course of counseling or something somebody says hey gothi can you perform a rune pull for me

01:06:28.160 because i have this going on in my life and i've done that a few times as well and

01:06:37.600 now i don't know if people were just being nice or not but i've been surprised how much

01:06:44.720 when i do that not knowing the person in their situation wanting to do it objectively

01:06:51.600 how much of what I've said has connected with them when I talk about the past,

01:06:57.900 when I talk about their current situation, when I talk about those two, and then, you know,

01:07:04.620 confidently, and I'm not sure all the time how that's worked out for them with my third poll,

01:07:09.840 but I'm surprised at how often my first two polls and my interpretation of them has been very

01:07:17.120 meaningful to the people who've asked. Those are the times that I typically do a poem. Like I said,

01:07:22.680 I do a sequential three-run poem. I wanted to clarify some things because I'm thinking as

01:07:28.480 you're speaking about people that are listening that might not understand certain things. Like

01:07:33.040 when you say draw the rune, that usage of the word, not physically drawing a picture or utilizing

01:07:39.600 a pen drawing up or is like pulling or or to uh reach inside so the mechanics of what we're doing

01:07:48.480 might better illuminate why we're saying certain words the idea is that you randomly pull out of a

01:07:56.400 bag or out of a pouch uh pieces or slips of wood um sometimes they're randomly drawn from out or

01:08:07.040 dropped out onto a cloth and then randomly drawn up the idea is that there is a random

01:08:12.320 uh pulling or choosing of a tine or a stave or a stone or something with the symbol on it

01:08:21.280 um and then it is interpreted though the meaning of the rune is implicated with the other uh

01:08:27.920 you know, symbols with them. And then they are interpreted to reveal the auspice nature of

01:08:38.700 what is to come. So for people that don't have any idea what the runes are, that's why I really

01:08:44.300 wanted to clarify that. So because when someone hears the word drawing the rune, they might think

01:08:52.120 physically drawing. And this is just one of the aspects of the usage of the runes. This is the,

01:08:59.540 you know, the divination aspect of it in which, you know, the outcome is to see or to be

01:09:09.860 given a glimpse. It can often be equated to prayer, but with an answer laid out before you.

01:09:19.280 And, you know, and this style is, you know, divination or augury, auspices, the usage of the words to give out a prayer, to randomly draw in lots, and then to perceive an outcome that was fated to be read.

01:09:37.240 And so one of the things that when I mentioned the reclamation, Alziaragodi's naming tradition is our naming tradition. It has expanded through the Gothar with observations to it.

01:09:52.280 and so what the reclamation of that is that we are taking the runic usage and applying them to

01:10:00.440 religious conduct and i think that's one unique thing that has not been done yet um it has been

01:10:08.360 done loosely as uh found you know groups have tried to found things and do things or perhaps

01:10:13.720 small groups or individual practitioners or or kindreds but for the first time a religious

01:10:19.400 organization is utilizing and reclaiming the usage of the runes in usage of religious ceremony

01:10:26.600 and it's worth also noting that when the al-sirgo is talking about um being asked to do the runes

01:10:33.720 the reason one of the biggest things and i think is um is in the uh note of tacitus where he talks

01:10:41.720 about um the drawing of the runes one of the key things that is said after that is that um

01:10:50.040 the the signs are random and thrown onto a white cloth then the priest of the state

01:10:55.400 is how he he wrote it the priest of the state if the consultation is a public one or the father

01:11:04.200 or family if it father of the family if it is private that's how tacitus interpreted this

01:11:10.440 situation so um oftentimes the folk can come to the gothar if the gothar is comfortable and this

01:11:18.920 is part of their lore practice and belief to seek advice and counsel but not simply by the wisdom

01:11:27.240 of the gothar but also by his knowledge of the runes and his ability to draw up or pull the

01:11:34.120 runes and then interpret where they are going from there but every gothar has a

01:11:39.960 a kind of internal set as to what exactly um is you know deserves that uh some not

01:11:47.480 it's not going to be like you can go up to any gothar and say ah any of the runes pulled now

01:11:52.760 that doesn't work that way

01:11:57.560 oh guys are watching the youtube chat um

01:12:04.120 And Githya, Githya Anna Plurd, she, she posted the runes that I pulled during their wedding.

01:12:12.440 Wasn't sure I didn't want to spread anybody's business, but it was during, I was very honored.

01:12:16.620 I was asked to perform Githya Anna and Gothi Jason Plurd's wedding and the rune pull and I see it and I remember it clear as day when she brings it up was really, really a good one.

01:12:29.000 made a lot of sense to me then and still does now seeing it so a little show and tell thing um

01:12:36.360 you guys mentioned or uh one of you and i forget who asked over on rumble talked about wanting to

01:12:41.800 carve runes into wood stuff and carve the elder food or the uh folk futhark so this is an axe

01:12:50.040 that i wanted uh at an auction that somebody had done the folk futhark in and you can see it turns

01:12:58.520 out lovely in wood um so yeah uh just as a little side note but i also wanted to get up

01:13:09.880 because fawn mentioned this that maybe some of this that we're talking about if you don't have

01:13:13.240 a visual or understand and i think this is don't hesitate in the chat to ask us to clarify things

01:13:21.800 that may seem really simple because those of us who've done this for a long time i think we take

01:13:27.240 things for granted that maybe people don't know and so he mentioned you know drawing a room doesn't

01:13:32.600 mean that i'm i'm drawing it i'm like inscribing it on something it means that i'm pulling it from

01:13:39.160 something so much of our lore revolves around pulling something from somewhere else and pulling

01:13:49.960 it into our reality and and like reaching in to gununga gap and pulling out from that primordial

01:13:58.840 well something magical and i think that's the language that we end up using but what a lot of

01:14:05.160 people do is they just have a little bag i've got a apple flavored crown royal bag and uh

01:14:11.080 I've got my runes in here. As far as making runes, so cool, this one's I got. Bricano. It's

01:14:23.320 a round off of a branch from a tree that was in my grandparents' yard. It was a crabapple tree,

01:14:30.480 so it was a fruit-bearing tree. I don't know if you guys can see, but I mean,

01:14:36.740 two decades or more ago, more than two decades ago now, I blooded my own runes. So I colored them

01:14:48.800 red with my own blood, which very specifically connected them to me. Now, other people have

01:14:59.500 different ideas on this, but something you'll very often run into is people who have created

01:15:04.860 their own runes and a rune set and have painted them with their own blood to viscerally connect

01:15:14.700 them on a primal level to that person so not only is this a lens for things within me and to focus

01:15:24.300 my thoughts and my hymenia but it's literally connected to me by blood um yeah i carved it

01:15:32.860 out with like a little dremel tool i used a i used a needle to fill it with uh with blood

01:15:40.780 withdrawn blood everybody's got different techniques but that's you know that's what i do

01:15:48.540 and like i say i've had these for

01:15:55.180 trying to go back in my head and kind of you know i say over 20 years not really i created them when

01:16:01.580 i was in the gothar program before my ordination because it was part of becoming a gofi at that

01:16:09.180 time um so i must have made those in 2011 so not not quite as long ago as i thought they might be

01:16:21.020 but yeah that just kind of a aside i don't know if that's cool for everybody or not

01:16:25.820 sure it's less cool for those tuning in on spotify that are not watching the video right

01:16:30.220 the visible but uh just um imagine imagine it capture it in your mind's eye we're covering

01:16:37.980 everybody on every aspect of the audience we are trying to broadcast this to as many places as we

01:16:43.500 can find um but yeah so we're we're working through the questions here um all right next one

01:16:54.300 does esoteric only mean believing in the myths and stories of the norse and germanic or can it

01:17:02.380 include stuff like hyperborea which is hellenism so esoteric can include all of those things and

01:17:12.620 many other things um esoteric isn't a inherently also true term it

01:17:28.780 so i don't want to mess up on my linguistics here and i'd have to look up

01:17:32.220 um the greek and the latin but a lot of it is focused on

01:17:37.900 on internal spiritual work as opposed to external spiritual practice um it has a lot to do with

01:17:49.420 myth and personal spiritual development and i think that you see that throughout

01:17:55.580 any religious system specifically things that we find valid in the astro folk assembly

01:18:04.300 is basically any white man esoterics the idea of esoterics that come to us through western

01:18:11.180 traditions even if they are from sources that are a little bit further afield like you mentioned

01:18:17.580 hellenic sources our spirituality our exoterics and our esoterics go back to our aryan root

01:18:27.100 that's why the afa is pan-arian um hellenism in its most pure form is aussitrew

01:18:38.460 aussitrew is that it is our it is what's true and unites arian religious religiosity back to

01:18:47.820 the beginning now when you get into hellenism depending on what time that you're writing

01:18:52.300 there's a lot of sources that have been degenerated um it a lot of the the writing comes from a time

01:18:58.460 where um belief in the gods had waned and they became a literary and often a comic device so

01:19:08.940 you got to be careful on that and also because of their proximity to so many different races of

01:19:14.780 peoples in in africa and in asia it um it took on a little bit more foreign influence than we see

01:19:23.580 with say the slavs the germanics or the celts but fundamentally those those principles are

01:19:31.340 are sound and completely appropriate for use in esoteric practice do you have anything to add fun

01:19:37.900 i would say uh one thing that would be interesting is if we could go back into a

01:19:47.500 time machine and ask one of our ancestors say in the year in the year 500 and ask them

01:19:54.220 uh even the wisest of them what their thoughts are on the uh aryan invasion of india

01:20:00.940 and and it would there wouldn't be one there would not be an understanding of it there wouldn't be a

01:20:11.820 uh processes of it uh one of the things that i think it's important for us to remember is

01:20:18.140 the understanding of certain theories or ideas or the esoteric um you know formulations of ideas

01:20:26.920 happen in the times that we have with the information we have available. So one of the

01:20:34.800 interesting things about it is that our understanding of the runes, our understanding

01:20:39.460 of certain, again, ideas, expound outside of, say, just that sliver of time in the understanding of

01:20:49.080 someone of the Suebian tribe in Germany in the year 500 we we have to um take into consideration

01:21:00.520 if we're going to be serious about the about esoteric ideas at all we have to then at least

01:21:09.480 ponder implicate the design or think about what or how they apply to uh the foundations of things

01:21:18.420 that we have when in regards to say like again a theory like if it's this theory of hyperborea or

01:21:24.120 um uh the understanding of altima thule or um the uh the indo-european or indo-aryan

01:21:33.340 migration periods and how they apply to the development of traditions and those are kind

01:21:39.660 are technically outside of the norse germanic so it's not um feasible to keep things simply

01:21:48.820 within that because the norse germanic folk not come out of a vacuum there is a processes that

01:21:56.220 of our origins that lead us back to that and that applies also to the hellenics or the latin uh the

01:22:04.160 Roman or Greco-Roman, if you will. So yeah, I think it's important that we apply these thoughts

01:22:11.500 and ideas because we have the information to do so. It's the same with the runes. When we talk

01:22:16.220 about the names of the runes, talk about the origin of the runes, there is a level of understanding

01:22:22.320 that I think it's worth noting that even our ancestors may not have had. But there's also

01:22:27.700 things that are formulated now that our ancestors didn't when we talk about the names of the runes

01:22:33.140 and things like that and how um what they may have called it at their time versus what we call

01:22:38.100 it now because our understanding has changed and knowledge allows us to compound on that

01:22:47.220 um i think that's really important what you mentioned and it applies to all the shows that

01:22:53.460 we do certainly it applies to also true practice in general um we have such a

01:23:07.700 amazing depth and breadth of information at our fingertips

01:23:13.380 that you know the most learned of the gothar of the past didn't have access to at our you know

01:23:22.260 So when I say the past, yes, obviously, Viking guy in 800 didn't have access to it.

01:23:31.700 But, you know, Steve McNallan in the 1980s didn't have access to it.

01:23:37.940 Having the Internet where we literally at a keystroke have access to the collected knowledge of mankind as it is, is tremendous.

01:23:48.220 and for us to, we would be derelict in our duty for us not to use those things

01:23:58.500 and factor them in to evolving our practice. If we were to keep our practice completely stagnant

01:24:06.400 to reenacting the Viking period, it would be silly and it would be a gross misuse of our

01:24:13.960 responsibility so we have access to a lot of different information we know a lot

01:24:22.120 we have a much broader knowledge of things than our ancestors did there were things that they

01:24:26.680 were absolutely experts on and there's knowledge that they had that we don't still possess

01:24:33.400 but by that same token you know we have

01:24:37.320 the history from you know collected mankind at our fingertips wikipedia is flawed as it is on

01:24:46.520 some current issues you can go down that rabbit hole and you can have access to so much more than

01:24:55.000 any of our ancestors had when i say any of our ancestors i mean our parents and grandparents

01:24:59.560 as well so it's it's really amazing we do have to always factor that in and that's uh when you're

01:25:06.440 speaking of you know there's people that that have the collective knowledge of of of the internet and

01:25:12.280 of humanity and they use it to reconstitute an idea or a desire we do not seek to reconstitute

01:25:21.720 we seek to reclaim in its usage and that's why i keep saying that the age of reclamation

01:25:29.160 is that the uh the foundation of when you have people that take knowledge and attempt

01:25:34.840 to put the blueprint together they're they're attempting to kind of draw the recipe or write

01:25:41.240 the recipe or draw the blueprint to to kind of finally step back and say ha ha we we've done it

01:25:48.920 we found the reconstituted entirety whereas we are taking our practices that have developed

01:25:57.080 and incorporating uh and and uh reclaiming the usage and placing it within our framework of

01:26:05.720 orthopraxy or you know you the utilization of our religious faith based on piety based on

01:26:11.960 on our uh our our accumulated relationship with the gods and then taking that knowledge

01:26:18.040 and reclaiming it for its use and we're not we're not being secretive about it like some

01:26:23.480 Some people are like, I feel like when the Folk Ruthart came out, I was like, what are you guys

01:26:28.360 up to? It's like nothing, like nothing we haven't said. It's the reclamation versus Reconstruction.

01:26:37.560 We are constituting our faith through reclamation. And that's a very, very important

01:26:43.640 distinction. There's something really cool about historical reenactment in a lot of ways.

01:26:50.760 to do historical reenactment shows you a really cool insight in things that our ancestors did

01:27:00.440 you know there's a very large

01:27:04.520 reenactment community um assume around the world but certainly in the united states that

01:27:11.000 reenact a number of different periods in time and they try to use you know completely authentic

01:27:17.800 weaponry and clothing and techniques and that's fun that's really neat i'm not diminishing that

01:27:24.040 it's that's cool for what it is but what it's not is developing our faith it's really nice to see

01:27:32.680 what our ancestors did but if we stop there it's silly it'd be really cool to you know find a

01:27:42.440 ancient recipe for something that you know they ate during the viking age and i think it'd be

01:27:47.560 neat to try that but i think more often than not if we tried a stew they made in viking times it'd

01:27:53.240 be a lot better if we had some some spices in there and some some things and ingredients that

01:27:58.520 we have access to now that our ancestors didn't i think many of our ancestors would uh would be

01:28:07.160 amazed at the wonderful things that we have access to now and to not incorporate those and to not

01:28:16.680 build would be a shame the difference between reconstructing and

01:28:23.720 building is is everything we're not trying to rebuild something ancient so our end result

01:28:29.560 could be yay we have something that they had thousands of years ago no our end result should

01:28:35.480 be to do something that people a thousand years ago would marvel at that we have now we're not

01:28:41.320 trying to redo something that's been done we're trying to learn from what's been done and do

01:28:47.640 something that moves that forward and advance that towards where it should be and like i say i really

01:28:55.080 hope that you know 100 years from now they've advanced this much further than we're able to in

01:29:03.080 my lifetime and i hope 100 years beyond that we've gotten further and better still

01:29:09.000 and i hope that doesn't ever stop i think if it did we'd be you know we'd be a disappointment

01:29:14.920 to our ancestors and to our gods and i would never want that see what's next here

01:29:33.080 all right

01:29:36.680 matt slash swan how to bind runes work swan do you want to break that down for folks

01:29:46.580 sure um immediately when the question's asked my first thought is do i explain it in my

01:29:54.240 understanding or do i explain it in the general understanding of information that we have

01:29:59.700 Do you have some heretical understanding of bind runes that I need to be aware of?

01:30:05.720 No, no. I think that because there's much interpretation. For instance, my teacher taught

01:30:12.920 me that the usage of bind runes is convoluted by evidence when we have the idea of elder

01:30:21.200 bind runes and how their usages were. Oftentimes, bind runes kind of started out as like perhaps

01:30:27.380 a singular rune that was repeated over and over and over again a perfect example of this is the

01:30:34.420 um the t rune uh tiwaz or or um uh teo uh on um the kelver stone it's just one rune but it's

01:30:45.940 repeated over and over again but since it's similar to say the ansuz rune or the a rune

01:30:52.100 uh some people have interpreted is it a bind rune of t or a or both so there's a lot of speculation

01:30:58.180 and there's a lot of combinations of the bind runes that have been in evidence of the past

01:31:03.380 um however the the basic idea is that you have multiple runes that you interconnect together

01:31:11.380 so that they blend uh in in their design in their uh imagery sometimes people do bind

01:31:18.900 runes in order to kind of further expound on the symbology of a of a thing perhaps they put two

01:31:26.660 runes together that look reminiscent of another image with the with the intent um but the idea

01:31:33.780 is is that you're taking the multiple meanings or powers of those runes and combining them together

01:31:39.700 in order to project them out as kind of a a recipe if you will um a a series of intentions

01:31:49.300 as opposed to a singular intention hence the binding of multiples um and in doing so you

01:31:57.300 tailor those intentions out generally carving them into a medium uh there's a set process that a lot

01:32:05.300 of people uh you know believe in singing or galdering which we i've seen some questions about

01:32:10.900 galdering galdering the runes blooding and painting the runes whether utilizing red ochre

01:32:16.340 or blood or a combination of the two and then singing and pronouncing and projecting the uh

01:32:24.020 the binded rune um on to a medium and then pressing it out with the intent asking or or even even just

01:32:34.340 proclaiming the design of that rune to have an intended outcome and when we talk about runes

01:32:43.380 and how they interact with each other that seems to be a hotly debated subject as to how the runes

01:32:50.900 interact with each other how do you determine them as positives and negatives uh do the runes just

01:32:55.620 Are they just able to be put together? There is evidence in Eil's saga. Eil Skalagrimson was an

01:33:07.460 Icelander. And there's an incident in which he is called to a farm. And there is a young girl

01:33:14.360 that's fallen sick. And the father of the house says, she's sick. She's not getting better. We

01:33:20.580 had a young man who's knowledgeable in the runes to carve healing runes to help so here this is

01:33:28.760 interesting because it places the usage of runes not in a divination aspect but in an application

01:33:35.940 of of desire but it gets even more interesting is that ale then moves the girl lifts up the

01:33:44.120 mattress and sees that the runes are written on a whale bone. And he looks at them and he scoffs

01:33:50.900 and he says that people that do not have knowledge of the runes should not be using them so lightly.

01:33:55.740 And so he then goes through the process of removing those runes and then he writes his own

01:34:00.380 and goes through the process of making those correct. And then he places them under her

01:34:07.060 mattress on the whale bone again. And then she is alleviated of her illness. Now, what truly makes

01:34:13.880 that interesting is not only just the application of the runes, but also the fact that there's a

01:34:19.380 desired and willful outcome that has right and wrong. That the practitioner before Eil Skullagrimson

01:34:30.080 incorrectly wrote down the runes, and it was seen by Eil, and that he then removed them and

01:34:38.840 correctly wrote them down and that's an interesting thing to to kind of place out that there is a

01:34:45.800 correct way and a and a incorrect way and so the argument about how runes interact with each other

01:34:53.000 can they do they have it is it interpretation or is there a set objective way in which the runes

01:34:59.160 kind of conflict with each other and and are congruent with each other and there are certain

01:35:04.280 people that practice the runes that think yes they are extremely set and that they're if you

01:35:11.320 mix certain runes with other runes that you could cause more problems than you are trying to

01:35:17.400 alleviate and then there are other people that say no it's not it's not based uh on that we

01:35:22.680 don't have enough knowledge or that the runes are not based on that but that they are all entirely

01:35:28.840 congruent with each other in their own form because they are kind of like a cords of a rope

01:35:35.240 if you will or the twines of a rope so when you make bind runes you have to kind of

01:35:42.440 formulate i guess your your way of thinking of that if you see the runes as having uh congruence

01:35:49.080 then you know choosing the runes and doing the process in order to bring them about and manifest

01:35:55.480 your will uh the bind rooms could be you know any number of them um in any way that you see them

01:36:02.360 um but if you have a formulaic you know uh out outlook then the numerics of them the uh the way

01:36:11.640 they interrelate with each other is very important and and my teacher taught me that there's there

01:36:17.160 was never any need to go above three runes in relation to a binder because you could end up

01:36:23.400 causing more problems than you are trying to alleviate. And he was referencing back to the

01:36:28.460 story of Eoskala Grimsov. So this is, there are kind of schools of thought within runic ideas

01:36:33.980 or runic practices that can affect the answer to that question. But bind runes are a combination

01:36:43.880 of runes with the intent of making what I could, best word I could describe as a recipe

01:36:50.500 for a desired outcome based on the utilization and the manifestation of the power of those rooms

01:36:58.100 and uh formulating them and projecting them forward with a desired outcome

01:37:04.980 yes everything's fun just said but again and this is another thing that we preface the program with

01:37:12.500 so much of this has to do with intent and what your purpose is and the lens through which you

01:37:22.500 focus your hymenia to bring about magical conclusions also are you doing this through

01:37:31.300 your own might or are you asking favors from the gods in doing it when you bring in another party

01:37:39.620 your lens has to be useful to both of the people involved in it if you are creating

01:37:46.980 there's many things that you could create a bind room for you could create one for healing like

01:37:53.780 in the in the example on the uh the whale bone you could also create one as a

01:38:01.140 not to diminish it or secularize it more than necessary, but in effect, as a logo, as a

01:38:11.140 symbol, as a piece of heraldry, as a design to rally people behind. You can do it as a

01:38:21.080 symbol to empower you in your meditative practice, to focus your mind and your energy on

01:38:31.140 on something or to be reminded of something. You can have it as a piece of art to

01:38:36.480 call back a commitment that you made or a set of core virtues that you want to continue to be

01:38:45.780 true to and have it as an altarpiece. You can try to do it as a magical charm to bring you success

01:38:54.020 in some way. There's a lot of different ways you can do that. And this goes back, I think,

01:39:00.780 in a relatable way to modern times to the idea of sigil magic and the reason that i cut my camera a

01:39:11.500 few minutes ago was to go check in a book to make sure i knew where the article was in introduction

01:39:18.140 to magic volume one there's an article called the magic of the image by abraxas and

01:39:26.460 And those books are hard to get certain things out of.

01:39:34.900 There's some articles that really ring a bell with me,

01:39:37.260 and there's some articles that just seem like a waste of paper.

01:39:41.580 Abraxas always has the things that I find the most valuable of the authors in there.

01:39:48.400 And it's the guy's pen name for the Ur group, the initiatory magical group he was a part of.

01:39:54.080 i don't know his actual identity in life but that article was really useful about sigil magic and

01:40:06.640 what all that can do but again it needs to make sense and it also and a note that he

01:40:12.960 makes in there that i think is important needs to look cool it needs to be visually appealing

01:40:18.880 to where when you see it you have a positive reaction to it if it looks messy or it just looks

01:40:25.760 ugly or it looks cluttered all of those things will have a negative effect on its its its purpose

01:40:34.080 and what you're trying to do with it if it's meant as some kind of a mental maze for you to

01:40:40.960 ponder on and try to pick out different patterns in that's a different story again it depends on

01:40:46.560 what you're doing it for um but again i wouldn't clutter it and what you do in your intent when you

01:40:55.520 create it when you create something especially like a bind rune but any kind of work of art that's

01:41:05.360 magical you you bring it to life with a purpose you imbue it with part of your hymenia with part

01:41:15.680 of your spiritual might in in birthing it into the world and you do that with a particular purpose

01:41:26.480 as fawn kind of mentioned earlier runes in and of themselves are technically bind rooms

01:41:31.840 sometimes that helps you understand the mystery of the room but a lot of it is on how you want to

01:41:38.400 take it you know um answers is isa and lagu's as well you know as well as answers it's in and of

01:41:50.960 itself a bind if you want it to be um but again how you position things whether it balances i know

01:41:59.040 that sometimes when people create bind runes they can be very uneven they can look unbalanced or

01:42:07.600 look off center that has an effect too maybe that's the effect you're going for or maybe it's

01:42:12.800 distracting um so back to it's it's art not a science i really think that applies one of the

01:42:21.840 other things that i think is negative is when you approach the runes with arrogance

01:42:32.560 one thing and again i don't know the specifics of the whalebone incident and i mean i've read

01:42:42.400 the story but i i wasn't there so did the did whoever carved the rune wrong or were they full

01:42:52.480 of themselves and did dumb things and caught carved things incorrectly and made dumb mistakes

01:42:59.520 because they didn't take it seriously did they try to invoke the holy powers but 0.75

01:43:05.360 do it with arrogance and inappropriateness i think that there's a lot of things that can go wrong and 0.98

01:43:11.280 i think intent is so very important if you are a jerk and you are not if you are doing something 0.97

01:43:20.560 holy and you are not doing it with a holy mindset or with unappropriateness i think you are priming 0.98

01:43:29.040 yourself for bad results coming from the multiple sources so i don't think it's just that you got

01:43:34.560 the math problem wrong i think you got the the social problem of it wrong as well but that's

01:43:41.440 just some thoughts on bind runes i hope that made sense if any of it didn't please feel free to ask

01:43:46.720 follow-up questions when we talk about magic things i know that it really kind of gets in

01:43:52.080 the weeds and it might be difficult you know to follow along or we may uh describe things in odd

01:43:58.960 ways so like i said feel free i wanted to re-emphasize just a little bit too since like in

01:44:05.760 the beginning of of the of the uh episode uh for those that are listening or maybe just now tuning

01:44:11.200 in or you know when we talk about the elder futhark we are also talking about the time frame in which

01:44:17.440 it was used so the elder time frame or the elder um runic age or the elder epoch or runic epoch or

01:44:27.920 epic as it um uh you know and and to give you an idea of where those are at is like from the year

01:44:34.320 1 ad to the year 800 is the elder and it's because in that time frame there were inscriptions of the

01:44:43.280 entirety of the futhark found and dated to those times were they in usage before then absolutely

01:44:50.800 we actually have proof of um other finds in which there are inscriptions written but the entirety

01:44:58.640 is what we were you know lacking uh in a lot of those so when they were found that

01:45:03.280 they were found within an era or within within a time frame uh the younger of course is what

01:45:09.120 most people would realize is the um viking runic time but they failed to remember it also includes

01:45:16.320 the anglo-saxons and the anglo-saxons even though they converted first to christianity before the

01:45:23.120 nords uh their usage and knowledge of the runes and writing them down uh happened before the the

01:45:29.440 the younger futhark was written down uh in the viking age so you know um you know by 100 and

01:45:35.760 maybe 200 years or so um then there is the middle period and the middle period is kind of

01:45:42.560 seen as a runic desperation time things have been scattered and so lost that there are small

01:45:49.600 snippets of runic knowledge that are found uh that are utilized in modern conventional senses

01:45:57.200 like uh you know runic calendars kind of fall into that time frame uh there's a there's you know

01:46:03.840 books written in runic but are are kind of a combination of ideas of the time so oftentimes

01:46:10.000 those are called medieval the medieval period and that that middle period runs us right up into the

01:46:15.840 revival and the revival is about from about 1600 uh to about 1945 1950 depending on who you talk to

01:46:26.880 uh in relation to the final part of course being the utilization of the runes by the third reich

01:46:32.560 in germany which was a a kind of a great uh vapid use of the revival of the runes but

01:46:40.080 that wasn't the beginning and the end of those usage they actually pulled them from earlier

01:46:44.880 usages that had been kind of building uh since the middle ages um so just wanted to re-emphasize

01:46:52.000 those ages again so that way it could give people kind of an understanding of where these futharks

01:46:57.680 that we're talking about come from and why the ages exist it's because that's the the usage of

01:47:02.960 those fruit arcs so all right um sarah asks have either of you visited the rune stones that have

01:47:14.080 been found in various parts of the united states svan have you had a chance to visit any of our

01:47:20.400 local american rune stones no i i really want to and wish i could say yes but

01:47:28.160 i'm being honest no i have not i wanted to actually when i when i went up into the uh

01:47:33.760 midwest to baldersoft but um i wanted to try to travel and get there but i just the time wouldn't

01:47:41.280 allow it so no i have um i got to see the kensington runestone up in minnesota and i've

01:47:50.320 also as of last year seen the havener runestone um down there in uh oklahoma um

01:48:04.400 they're really interesting to go see um

01:48:07.600 i i'd say the kensington runestone is is more interesting to see but yeah i've been able to

01:48:17.760 see both of those and i'm really really fortunate to be able to have gone and seen those uh

01:48:24.640 No, I'm trying to understand the question, so I'm listening.

01:48:34.700 So I'm reading it out, I apologize, in my head.

01:48:39.420 Disregard everything I just said.

01:48:40.720 I know it didn't make sense out loud.

01:48:42.080 All right, so the question is Raune connected to Rune

01:48:51.260 as Roar might have some connection to Galdr.

01:48:55.840 Correct, Svon?

01:49:01.480 I missed that last question.

01:49:03.920 All right.

01:49:04.780 Say it again.

01:49:05.880 I didn't see it.

01:49:07.060 Rauna.

01:49:08.440 And again, I don't know what language it's from,

01:49:10.000 so I don't know whether I'm supposed to say the last E or not.

01:49:13.200 R-A-U-N-E, connected to Rune as Roar might have some connection to Galdr.

01:49:21.260 Right, Svahn?

01:49:24.000 Yes, that interpretation of the usage of the word rune, again, that's mentioned greatly in certain books by Dr. Flowers when we're talking about the, like he has a book called Futhark, and he has another book called Rune Lore.

01:49:39.780 I highly recommend rune lore if you're looking at the history of runes, not necessarily the content and the magical implications, but certainly the history of it and the usage of that word.

01:49:52.440 Yes, rauna. In relation to the exact language, I don't recall off the top of my head. But yes, there are usages of the word revolving around whispering, speaking, bringing into manifestation by sound.

01:50:12.380 So like a song, not in the Nordic period by that time, but in earlier times, there was the possibility of the usage of the word to roar, to shout, or to whisper, or to even, again, sing.

01:50:27.140 And there's multiple Germanic sources on this Gothic language, Germanic language, and its many evolutions, Anglo-Saxon, things of that nature, and the etymology of those origins.

01:50:38.860 So yes, Galder is a Nordic word in its usage mostly, and it means a spell. Sometimes it can be used to mean magic in general, and in the esoteric sense, not in the parlor kind of sense of magic.

01:50:58.360 and it always equates to the idea of the formulation of intent through verbal means

01:51:04.920 and so there's not always a necessity to write or inscribe or carve a room

01:51:12.320 in order to gall because the the uh re-emphasis of the symbol itself may be mentally or even in

01:51:21.240 a temporary medium like on a again a piece of paper that is burned but the galling is the

01:51:26.660 manifestation of the sound because the root of the symbol and its meaning is predominantly

01:51:33.460 in the sound itself. But Galder isn't just singularly the sound. Um, so a perfect example

01:51:42.960 of this is that it's, uh, theorized by, uh, Dr. Flowers, who's Edward Thorson's pen, by his pen

01:51:48.700 name, is that the ancient story of Jack and the Beanstalk and the usage of the words that were

01:51:57.720 spoken by the giant when he says fee-fi-fo-fum, there is a vowel structure there that is placed

01:52:07.140 along with the consonant of the F sound. So he speculated that perhaps this was a kernel of

01:52:13.060 of information a kind of understanding that perhaps the way galder was um was uh you know uh

01:52:22.580 theorized the way it was constructed uh or if you're looking at it more metaphysically this is

01:52:27.540 the the structure of galder that was hidden whether on purpose or by divine means of the

01:52:34.020 gods in order to pass down to us their structuring but galder is in its most basic sense can be the

01:52:42.180 simple proto sound of a rune if there is like if i was to say the f rune and i was going to use

01:52:50.580 whether we were talking about the um you know the icelandic or the anglo-saxon they would have

01:52:55.700 different names but they would always start with the with the sound f that sound so the proto

01:53:02.180 idea is that galder can be pronounced by resonating the simple and basic sound in its form singularly

01:53:10.980 the f sound so what that could kind of for people to conceptualize whether they're watching or

01:53:16.740 whether they're listening is that that that would be an idea that um perhaps upon inscribing the

01:53:22.020 room there would be a pronunciation of that sound in order to kind of link those two together um

01:53:29.460 and this kind of goes about with an enactment in which back to the uh the creation of of the folk

01:53:37.300 when odin breathes life into the ash and the elm tree that is kind of seen as a resonation

01:53:45.780 of breath and of song or of sound in uniting with and igniting the soul uh in its creation

01:53:53.860 and so the fact that it was done in wood and then the runic connection of it being done in wood

01:53:59.460 is not a miss so the idea is that um you can galder over the symbol in order to unify it

01:54:10.980 maybe magnify it or exemplify your intended desire and so in the proto sound it could simply be that

01:54:18.020 sound oftentimes too though it is made into the the the word the name now there are many different

01:54:24.740 names of the runes uh we have the gothic which is most likely the oldest the anglo-saxon and the

01:54:32.420 and the uh icelandic whether it's icelandic or actually the norwegian uh and then we have the

01:54:38.340 reconstructed names now the reconstructed names are kind of a linguistic pull and reformulation

01:54:46.660 utilizing all of the elements so what we did with the um folk food arc creating it's already been

01:54:54.100 done in relation to the names of the rooms so anybody that was kind of like side glancing at

01:55:00.180 like what are you guys doing well kind of already partaking in it in and of itself with the

01:55:05.460 reconstructed names of the rooms some of the runes are almost identical to the gothic language

01:55:12.100 because that's the oldest but others are absolutely reconstructed utilizing all of the language

01:55:19.060 sequences in order to make what would be most likely a middle name or word that would linguistically

01:55:27.140 travel uh adding adding the az at the end comes from the the gothic so like um ansuz

01:55:36.180 um you know and the the idea that uh the gothic alphabet which utilized the runes but was written

01:55:43.620 in a greek format meaning alphabetically with alpha and beta but they used their first word was

01:55:51.140 answers is how it was most likely pronounced and so on sous is a derivative of that

01:55:57.460 so when you say the names um again your intent is coming out so the reconstructed name is not

01:56:04.580 necessarily you shouldn't view it as reconstructed means bad what it means is that we can see that

01:56:10.980 the runic names have changed over time with reason and our reason is based off of linguistic knowledge

01:56:18.420 is the reason why it's changed so the icelanders used a different name than the anglo-saxons

01:56:24.900 and uh neither one of them is wrong it's that the the names evolved based on the

01:56:30.420 the way that they were the knowledge was was uh disseminated out and for us in our age

01:56:36.500 that the names of the runes came to us because of our accumulated knowledge of multiple

01:56:44.100 germanic languages and that's a pretty powerful thing just to have so i think a lot of people

01:56:50.660 might you know turn their nose up to these ideas but uh you know so if you say the name of the

01:56:56.020 rune along with the proto sound that could be considered a galder and then galdering again can

01:57:01.860 evolve it could be the proto sound it could be the name and then it could start to formulate perhaps

01:57:08.500 into similar words words that have uh connection to so like uh the uses of the word fruitful

01:57:17.460 in in relation to the the the rune uh fehu or fee or fae um because fae has connotations to

01:57:26.580 prosperity and the word fruitful has the sound of the f in it so now we start to formulate a more

01:57:35.060 complex galder uh and that really does kind of go into the flare of the usage of

01:57:41.620 of when you're galder it can change based on uh how you your intent as i was here to go the asset

01:57:49.540 when you go into with it when you're intent you're constructing and manifesting a willful desire

01:57:54.500 the galder does not have to simply be the names of the runes or simply the proto sound

01:57:59.780 it could be a poem in which the usage of the of the sound is maybe alliteratively repeated

01:58:06.500 with the intention so then we get into poetics and songs like in in the the halvamal when when

01:58:14.340 odin says he knows the songs of the runes he's speaking of complex uh recipes or equations or

01:58:22.820 whatever you want to call it in order to attain a an outcome all right appreciate you covering some

01:58:33.940 time there for me uh my daughter is three years old and so sometimes especially if she doesn't

01:58:42.020 take a nap in the evening random things vex her they vex her greatly and that's a little bit

01:58:48.660 trying to give my wife a little bit of a break and calm it down a little bit

01:58:52.020 it worked for a minute and then it didn't and i think she's calm again right now hopefully going

01:58:56.420 to sleep the news you can use all right so next question are there any afa-approved organizations

01:59:05.620 that are working in parallel to the afa i know several outs of true organizations that seem

01:59:11.540 embarrassed their ancestors were european um the the short answer is no if you are practicing

01:59:20.820 alsatru you should be practicing with the afa um it's not what everybody wants to hear but it's

01:59:28.660 true and i mean it with all my heart because we're doing it right and if i felt that wasn't

01:59:33.540 the case and there was another organization that was we would all join that um we are much more

01:59:41.060 effective when we're doing this together and uh no i think the afa is doing this the right way

01:59:47.860 we have the lineage behind us we have the time in gift cycle with the gods that i think is

01:59:57.060 is lacking a lot of these other organizations um there are other organizations that i think are

02:00:03.140 are swell folks and i mentioned some of those on our last broadcast um mainly folks doing this

02:00:10.020 this internationally um we have members in 14 different countries but the vast vast majority

02:00:17.860 of our membership is in the united states we would love to build overseas but i know there are

02:00:24.260 organizations in europe that are doing this or something you know along these lines there that

02:00:31.620 i'm sure doing a fine job i've mentioned some german gentlemen that and their families that

02:00:38.980 i met up with when i was in sweden for an afa moot over there and they're part of the arts

02:00:43.940 gemeinschaft and they seemed to be great people and sounds like they've got something good going

02:00:50.020 on over there i don't know all the specifics um might butcher this so i apologize to our spanish

02:00:58.740 speaking audience but the comunidad de odinista in spain is doing cool stuff um i think we'd all

02:01:08.020 be better if we were we were on one team under one banner doing this but uh i they might say the same

02:01:14.980 um but yeah as far as in a meta sense on parallel tracks there may very well be other groups of

02:01:21.940 people doing cultural things that are similar to the goals that we have that are great i'm not

02:01:29.540 sure what what that would be but that makes sense there may be people doing cultural or musical

02:01:36.500 things or performance things or poetry things things in a broader sphere that are parallel

02:01:42.660 to what we're doing but if you're doing also true you should be doing it here

02:01:47.380 and i believe that with all my heart or i wouldn't be doing what i'm doing and uh

02:01:55.620 yeah not sure what more what more to say on that other than i saw over in the chat

02:02:02.660 uh maurice you mentioned that you probably or might be joining the afa at some point because

02:02:07.620 we seem legitimate i'm glad that you think that i would encourage you to do that and i look forward

02:02:14.980 to look forward to submitting an application and joining us if that's the route you decide to go

02:02:23.780 oh go ahead i think there was a question that was skipped i was going back to look

02:02:30.100 and um based on the question was just asked and uh i see one by europa but the uh can we get a

02:02:37.060 list of must-have books and i know you i don't so that did not come up in the order of questions

02:02:44.100 that producer nick fed me it may be down on the list though i'm not sure if he shuffled that in

02:02:49.780 at a different time um but that's fine if we want to throw that in there though before i transition

02:02:55.940 to something new what was the question as aha there it is he asked cool gentlemen great topic

02:03:04.020 as usual can we get a list of must-have books for rune study it's fun what are your what are

02:03:10.020 your must-have rune books i i well there's a long list of that but i would say for a beginner

02:03:17.780 uh my absolute number one recommendation is to get this book the complete illustrated

02:03:25.780 guide to the runes by nigel pennick this is a this is a really kind of one that i don't i don't think

02:03:32.660 a lot of people see coming or or know about but nigel pennick is along with uh dr flowers has been

02:03:40.740 in this subject for a very long time and and um he does a great job of giving you an overview

02:03:47.940 of runic magic runic divination uh and all of the futharks that are in there a lot of people um

02:03:56.420 incessantly go on about how the the usage of certain futharks indicate us as being you know

02:04:03.060 again the big spooky nazis or or what have you without an understanding that the um the third

02:04:11.300 Reich used German runes from a Futhark that was found in Germany from the Middle Ages. And it was

02:04:18.340 only 16 runes, I believe, or perhaps, sorry, it may have been 10 runes. And they were bind runes

02:04:26.180 by that point. And the rune I'm talking about, of course, is Erdra. A lot of the universalist

02:04:33.460 kind of folks that we run into on the internet, this is an evil rune. If the Othala rune has

02:04:41.080 feet on it it's because they're evil and uh that's not true it comes from a manuscript it is the

02:04:47.640 urger room and i think that anyone in germany especially militaristically utilizing it for

02:04:52.920 symbology and with the intent like you had said logos oftentimes have been used um to inspire or

02:04:59.800 to you know with bind rooms and things like that um they don't come from nowhere and so a lot of

02:05:05.880 these people are speaking from ignorance and one of the most the best spot that comes from that

02:05:12.120 which is plainly lays it out for people with no bias just explains it all is this book with lots

02:05:20.120 of pictures for people who don't you know maybe they need a break from just reading all the time

02:05:24.920 and it does it has some great images from rune stones and um uh archaeological finds and uh

02:05:33.960 diagrams and things from from all of the runic eras that we we have discussed

02:05:42.280 so my recommendations are for the literate

02:05:48.200 picture books of runes honestly they're not my first one that

02:05:53.960 it's it's an asterisk on whether it's a must-have if you're really new to this or if you're a

02:05:59.480 younger person i think that it's the best primer um for it is the runes workbook by leon wilde

02:06:08.680 and one of the things i like the most about it is its illustrations its illustrations are really cool

02:06:14.040 and uh i don't know if you've looked at them swan but they see

02:06:19.240 you would do they're pictures that incorporate an idea and they like to use

02:06:23.800 detail in the picture to illustrate kind of to tell a story within a single image

02:06:28.600 um but i think that's a really really good one um as far as for people who are more familiar with it

02:06:36.920 and i got in trouble on here i say got in trouble i ruffled some feathers on here

02:06:42.280 when i talked extensively about dr flowers stephen flowers also known as edward thorson um

02:06:50.440 Um, again, the guy I'm not advocating his existence or his moral authority or anything

02:07:05.840 else.

02:07:06.220 I'm advocating his runic authority, however.

02:07:08.220 Um, he has spent.

02:07:20.440 at least 50 years in like deep study of esoterics of Germanic languages and Germanic culture

02:07:32.740 of various magical practices of the runes specifically and he's been doing that since

02:07:40.000 70s he has a phd um he's not a doctor like dr dre he's a legitimate doctor of uh i believe he's a

02:07:51.360 doctor of germanic studies or germanic language um but his room stuff is untouchable um

02:07:59.760 um yeah so he is the source of all of my room my must-haves um Leon Wilde isn't him but he is part

02:08:11.340 of the Rune Guild which is um a group that that Edred runs so Futhark and runelore

02:08:20.700 are i i would say futhark runelore and alu are the ones from him that i have learned the most

02:08:31.200 from runically i think

02:08:34.880 once you are deeply emerged in this for a certain amount of time i think the secret of the runes by

02:08:44.460 Meister Von List is useful, but you have to have a lot of context before you get into that. I read

02:08:52.880 that far too early in my House of Truth development, and it was just, I couldn't crack the

02:09:01.700 code. It made no sense to me whatsoever. I couldn't get anything out of it. It just all was gobbledygook

02:09:08.180 that made no sense because I didn't have the context yet to understand it. And I can't claim

02:09:14.020 that all of it makes the most sense to me now but much much more of it does and something that i

02:09:20.740 thought was you know of little or no use when i started out is very valuable now that i'm further

02:09:28.740 down the road and i have more context to understand it better and to read and even just to read it

02:09:33.220 better and be more familiar with the terminology so i think that's a further one down the road

02:09:38.500 But like I said, Futhark, if I could only have one, it would be Futhark.

02:09:45.340 Ironically, Dr. Flowers looks down on that book as, you know, he's kind of embarrassed by it because it was his first one.

02:09:53.640 And it was such a groundbreaking piece at the time.

02:09:58.800 But he's had, you know, he's had 40 years to look back on it.

02:10:03.580 And, man, I would have done this.

02:10:04.800 I should have, man, I should have done this different.

02:10:06.480 I should have said this different.

02:10:08.500 So he's been able to nitpick his own work for 40 years.

02:10:11.360 But Futhark is is amazing and seminal to all the other things that we do.

02:10:19.100 Yeah, I have I have mine wrapped in

02:10:22.500 paper to keep the, you know, the bindings and everything protected,

02:10:26.540 if you will. But it is a, you know, it's very old,

02:10:30.540 old book that stains and but it's a yeah, that's a great one.

02:10:34.820 I think that

02:10:36.500 the reason why i really because i knew you were gonna um mention the runic workbook and i thought

02:10:41.540 that those two books are would be extremely pivotal to anyone who was looking into starting

02:10:47.860 the runes and are brand new to it and then yeah if you are further on i would say uh just from

02:10:53.940 a historical perspective runelore uh encapsulates the entirety of of the ages of runes and and makes

02:11:01.940 a person who's interested in the runes kind of see the large perspective of of how they've evolved

02:11:07.380 and how they've been used and and when you get people that don't know you can really after

02:11:12.260 reading that book you can really kind of pick up that they don't kind of understand the big picture

02:11:18.340 in relation because he just laid out so much great information so another thing that i'll plug

02:11:26.260 and because tonight we're talking probably more than we have any other episode about

02:11:30.420 about magic practice and some of the more deep esoterics and it's not that those things aren't

02:11:39.300 extremely important but so many people put the heart the cart before the horse those things

02:11:46.020 come after you have context and they're very much after you're solidified in the exoterics

02:11:55.020 of us as a religion and as a faith they're they're much you need that foundation first

02:12:02.060 and that is the most important once you have that then incorporating magical practices

02:12:10.460 and and the deeper esoterics they can be great but we want to make sure the foundation is there

02:12:16.860 first so we don't really you know toss that around willy-nilly um that said if you are interested

02:12:23.820 in developing and strengthening your hymenia and your your magical might and versatility i'd say

02:12:34.300 that the nine doors of midgard is a really good book now it is the like the the entrance course

02:12:44.140 material if you wanted to be part of the rune guild but it is completely and totally usable

02:12:51.260 and accessible if you have no interest in being part of that organization it's very solid the

02:12:57.500 techniques in it are very very good and i i would suggest that you know if you do that you can't

02:13:05.340 just read it like a book it's not intended for that it's a course of study and a course of self

02:13:12.620 transformation and it takes quite a long time to work through all the processes especially if you

02:13:18.780 do them the way the book suggests but slow and steady wins the race on that one and if that's

02:13:25.500 something that you have an interest in i would definitely check that one out what's up next on

02:13:35.500 our list all right matt svan how are the glyphs named did the names correspond to the original

02:13:44.940 sources of the glyphs used and i think spawn went into this a little bit earlier again i was i was

02:13:53.260 quelling the rebellion of a angry disgruntled three-year-old so have you have you did you

02:14:02.060 exhaust this or is there more to say on this fun uh there is a little bit more to say i just kind

02:14:06.780 of lightly hinted on the idea that that the the names that you will find and again most people

02:14:12.220 that have naysaying against um dr flowers don't realize that the food tharks that they're using

02:14:19.100 are dr flowers is food tharks because if without a an understanding is that uh you know the the um

02:14:27.660 basically uh edrid thorson or dr flowers when he created is the food tharks that we're utilizing

02:14:35.020 there are two food tharks and neither of them are exactly like the ones that are kind of generally

02:14:41.420 accepted by everyone today the kelver stone is has uh you know two or four depending on

02:14:49.820 you're talking to runes flipped and the vet's done a break day has uh two runes flipped as well

02:14:56.940 so it it looks like the the the formulation of in his studies he he combined the two futharks of

02:15:04.620 the kelver stone and the vet's done a break day to create the elder futhark as we see it today

02:15:11.100 because the calverstone has two um the uh the iwaz rune and the yira rune are flipped in the

02:15:21.180 calverstone which was inscribed in 400 um and edward reset those because the vat stenebrekte

02:15:31.900 has those in that order but he left the othla and dagas flipped so this is clearly him creating kind

02:15:39.260 of like the hybridization of the futhark's construction um between those two and then

02:15:46.460 when we talk about the naming of the runes it depends if you look at the anglo-saxon the anglo

02:15:52.700 saxon rune poems are very interesting because they have christian overtones and their titles

02:15:59.340 are in anglo-saxon and some of them are still um controversial in their origins as to what exactly

02:16:06.700 they mean. If you have the Old Norse Icelandic rune poems, they are there, but the Norse

02:16:17.700 reduced their alphabet or reduced the Futharks down into 16 runes. And this has perplexed people

02:16:25.020 on many different levels, from runic knowledge to just alphabetical linguistics. It doesn't make a

02:16:30.700 lot of sense for any group to reduce their writing system down. And that's what they did.

02:16:35.880 So when you have the names of the of the Icelandic rune poems, you have these kind of, you know, deeply unmolested titled rune, you know, they're not molested by Christianity or anything of that nature, but there's only 16 of them.

02:16:50.960 So there's a ton of them missing. Now, the words themselves exist in the in the Icelandic language, but then the runes are mixed around.

02:16:59.840 so the uh the manas rune of the elder ends up becoming um uh mother in the icelandic but they

02:17:07.620 use a totally different symbol so when you're talking about the names of the runes anglo-saxon

02:17:14.640 um you know uh uh nordic whether it's swedish or norwegian or icelandic or if we're talking

02:17:24.080 about the gothic language which is greatly overlooked the gothic language that we know of

02:17:30.800 was written down or formulated in a greek sense so alpha beta you know it went abc it wasn't in

02:17:38.240 the traditional futhark sense however it is deeply influenced by the writing system of the goths

02:17:44.640 which is runic. And it was written by a Christian named Uphilos. And he wanted to write down the

02:17:54.260 book of Matthew in Gothic. And he did so. And that's where a lot of the Gothic language survives

02:18:00.080 from. But it's worth noting that he wrote it down in a hybridized version of Greek and runic.

02:18:08.320 And he also named those letters. So when we look at, for instance, in modern reconstructed runic word for the A rune is ansus, but in the Gothic, it's ansus, and it means ancestors, whereas in the Anglo-Saxon, it's os, O-S-S, which means the estuary or mouth of a river.

02:18:35.100 so the names that we use you can pull from many different sources but generally we have a

02:18:41.820 neutral usage of the reconstructed words because these are the ones that most everyone knows

02:18:47.660 that were pretty much set out by runologists and kind of again formulated and hardened out by

02:18:55.780 early rune um practitioners like steven flowers as edward thorson and nigel pennick kind of

02:19:02.860 deciding to use the reconstructed names and so you get the names like tiwas and manas and dagas

02:19:11.980 instead of for instance day or day in the in old norse um uh so we have this kind of it becomes the

02:19:23.080 uh the the reconstructed names are the the uh most utilized naming system for when we're writing

02:19:30.440 about the runes when we're discussing about the magic and again the reason why i emphasize that

02:19:35.000 it's important that it's we understand that the reconstructed isn't lesser than the older names

02:19:41.320 those names were formulated by the way they were learned we learned from accumulation of all of

02:19:46.280 that knowledge so they have great importance so i would say any book that you find on the elder

02:19:51.720 futhark that uses if they're honest and they say reconstructed name uh but most of the time they

02:19:59.080 don't they just use it as the name uh you will find that is the most common use titles of the

02:20:06.120 rooms um you'll find people that might use the the armanin the the younger or the anglo-saxon

02:20:15.160 names because of preference but even they still have to kind of look at the reconstructed names

02:20:22.280 when they're researching the runes or at least researching people's interpretations of the rooms

02:20:29.080 So that's, that's the finite answer to that.

02:20:35.300 All right.

02:20:41.660 See where we're at.

02:20:42.860 so I'm gonna work with Nick between now and next time so I have a better way to look at my

02:20:59.540 uh yeah look at my questions here I'm getting better Nick is is catering to my boomerness and

02:21:06.740 not wanting to use technology the way it's intended so I'm gonna get better on that and

02:21:11.100 a better process for y'all next week um all right so carl says shouldn't the runes be referred to

02:21:22.620 more as a uh phonetic sense um so here's the the other rub and why i encourage everybody to go

02:21:36.620 participate in our super chats no the reason is because me and especially svawn and i will get

02:21:43.340 very long-winded in our questions and i'm sure this question was asked a long time ago and there

02:21:48.460 was a little bit more um context um yeah i'm not sure because the question in and of itself

02:22:01.500 implies as opposed to something else and i think we've talked about the phonetic value

02:22:08.860 of of runes one note that i would make is the uh

02:22:18.780 much of the potency of the rune comes from its vowel sound as opposed to its consonant sound

02:22:25.820 Um, just on phonetics, um, especially when used in Galdr and other things, you will find

02:22:39.860 there's a lot more emphasis on the vowel note than there is on the consonant note.

02:22:47.540 Um, I, go ahead.

02:22:51.100 I want to speak on something there, something worth noting for people that are listening.

02:22:55.380 when when he says it referred to more as the phonetic sense if i was to say the ah rune

02:23:01.700 as opposed to say the name of like whether it's the reconstructed or anglo-saxon but let's just

02:23:08.020 use reconstruction because that's our language that's our time frame i would say the ansu's

02:23:13.300 rune and we know that our ancestors the names of the runes because we wrote them in the rune poems

02:23:19.380 has significance so the names of whether it was os or aus or anses these these titles of the of

02:23:28.500 the letters have meaning if i was to say the a rune now i'm not actually even phonetically doing

02:23:35.380 that i'm actually referencing to the greek alphabet in relation to the runes so if i was to say the

02:23:43.300 the phonetic sense we could say the ah rune the ooh rune the th rune but to emphasize that it's

02:23:52.340 the thorn rune or the thirst rune or the therizas rune uh suddenly the titling of these uh symbols

02:24:01.620 and their sounds are complete so it creates a tripartite in and of itself you have the proto

02:24:08.180 sound the symbol and the mythos connected to it that's when it becomes truly powerful that's why

02:24:16.420 i don't always encourage that we go phonetically well and so to build on that it is a really

02:24:31.700 and aubrey is is too young or maybe that's an excuse i'm making and i should go ahead and start

02:24:38.500 but teaching children the runes with some of the rune poems

02:24:48.100 is really a special way to imbue culture as well as alphabet um

02:25:01.540 we search because you have to search for that in english it's like a is for alligator well no

02:25:07.860 it's not alligator just starts with a um

02:25:14.740 on sous is for for ours well yes it is it is a concept of a real thing that's relevant to

02:25:23.620 worldview and there's a corresponding room that talks about that that concept of that mystery

02:25:31.380 so it's a really culturally immersive alphabet and even calling it an alphabet's funny i mean it's it's

02:25:42.660 it's using the greek variant of futhark it's just you know ordering of letters um but the way that

02:25:49.940 it's done is it's really important each of our runes translates to to a thing to a concept

02:26:00.980 to a specific it has a specific thing attached to it that you're not just picking something that

02:26:07.220 starts with th you can talk about the thirst or you can talk about the thorn depending on the

02:26:15.060 on the room with the alphabet but it had it's it is a thing it's not just a noise

02:26:22.660 if that makes sense my language terms are not uh up to snuff as as you guys can tell um

02:26:28.740 so this question has kind of already been asked in return in terms of or been answered i guess

02:26:49.360 in terms of runes but not in terms of asked to shoot generally uh there's so many many books

02:26:56.580 out there about the runes are there any that you would recommend for uh a new to house for new to

02:27:03.700 folks who are new to alsatru we've already answered this in its entirety never mind i i apologize

02:27:10.820 all right so the next one um what is what's it feel like to be at the one year anniversary

02:27:18.260 for victory never sleeps i suppose it is um what's the best part so far and what are you

02:27:26.020 looking forward to most in the future so swan you've been coming on pretty much since the

02:27:32.660 beginning what are your thoughts and feelings well i mean i for me it doesn't feel like the

02:27:40.020 beginning because i remember you uh holding uh episodes of q a and things like that but in in

02:27:45.380 the i guess the proto vns if you will um and and so i feel like i came on like a lot later as the

02:27:53.460 development and the formal formalization of the of the episodes came to be and um

02:28:02.660 yeah it's it's amazing i again i i've had um folk in in the uh afa like message me and say hey you

02:28:12.100 know i really i really appreciate you guys doing this and i love your guys's like chemistry or i

02:28:16.740 i love the way you guys kind of bounce off ideas and it blows me away when they do this because i

02:28:24.500 you know i'm hoping that people learn from these things and i hope that we clarify some

02:28:28.500 misconceptions and and illuminate some ideas and and things like that but i just had no idea

02:28:34.260 this is such so much like our i think that they the the folk that are watching don't realize that

02:28:39.700 this is kind of like when when there's not business to be had i think uh our conversations

02:28:47.780 have always kind of been like this where there's these even sometimes when there is business to be

02:28:53.300 had then there's like we start talking about esoterics and we start moving we start island

02:28:57.060 hopping through these kind of long drawn out and then the next thing you know it's like three hours

02:29:02.740 later it's like i gotta go so i feel that these are just like videotaped versions of conversations

02:29:10.260 we've not had before but our conversation style and i think it's awesome to be able to do that

02:29:16.980 and bring people in on it and and so they can see directly from us what we're saying what we're

02:29:24.020 doing what we're trying to do and then you know for you to put so much stock in my uh and endorse

02:29:31.940 to me in such a way um is is humbling at the same time you know just it's it's good i i and i think

02:29:39.380 that people think that while watching this this was all somehow planned or arranged but you guys

02:29:46.580 need to understand i was here he has a sense of shooting from the hip sometimes and this is

02:29:51.460 absolutely one of those things so um and it's turned it's blossomed into this

02:29:57.060 so swan first on on having you on as a guest all the time um

02:30:04.820 no this is a

02:30:07.860 there's certain there's certain key people that make connections at the right time

02:30:22.500 and are very much a blessing from the gods and you're certainly one of those people um you bring

02:30:30.080 a

02:30:30.900 first you bring a spiritual gravitas to this like nobody else that i've seen and it's

02:30:43.780 it impresses everyone it impresses like you are by far the go-to guest on this you do things but

02:30:52.800 to like people that have been doing this for a very long time Sheila McNallan specifically

02:30:59.960 Githia McNallan just thinks that you are the greatest thing since sliced bread like

02:31:05.520 this she is a big swan fan and has been from day one because the way you um

02:31:14.960 first you have a depth and breadth of the lore that is you know unsurpassed but beyond that you have

02:31:25.520 you have put it into such a spiritual and religious context in your life that you're

02:31:36.120 able to make use of that lore as opposed to just regurgitate it but the way that your

02:31:42.880 mind works and that you explain things and you do things is spot on it is absolutely

02:31:51.360 it is solid gold and it contrasts with mine it doesn't conflict with in any way but it fills

02:32:05.320 gaps that's one of the really good things you are i feel like our strengths and weaknesses in a lot

02:32:12.360 of ways complement each other really well and i think that's what allows us to have a six hour

02:32:18.220 conversation and feel like you know it was no big deal but so how do i feel being a year into this

02:32:25.260 man i i love this i love everything about it i always sound goofy happy when i do this but that's

02:32:31.980 because i literally look forward to it all week um as you can tell spawn's one of my my dearest

02:32:37.900 friends i love talking to him everybody i bring on there's some people i don't have a particularly

02:32:43.980 like long relationship with sometimes we'll bring on apprentice folk builders or folks

02:32:48.780 that i just haven't known for that long but all in all these are all people i like and i enjoy

02:32:53.660 talking to um so it's fun for me and what i'm very appreciative of is we've gotten a lot of

02:33:02.780 people to join and talk about how vns has really changed their life and has brought them to also

02:33:08.300 true has taught them about our faith in a way that hadn't reached these people before and i'm

02:33:17.100 really really proud of that and i'm just humbled that we've got such an audience of people that

02:33:22.620 tune in every week and i really appreciate that it's it's really special i feel

02:33:28.620 it helps me too. I do this, I do this 100% of the time. And, you know, I say that there's time

02:33:39.260 I'm doing other stuff, but I do it at least 90% of the time, I feel like. And, you know,

02:33:48.920 I've gotten it to where when somebody says, hey, Matt, how are you doing? I give them a report on

02:33:53.900 state of the afa rather than you know my back hurts i'm like oh we got three new members today

02:34:00.220 and you know i yep because this because this is my life um but no i was thinking about that today

02:34:07.580 because you know today's my birthday and it's you know a time to reflect and people you know

02:34:11.420 ask how i'm doing or like how was your birthday i don't work too hard like no my birthday would

02:34:15.980 suck if i wasn't doing afa stuff this is if i wasn't i'd be stressing about the afa stuff not

02:34:22.220 getting done so being able to went on a on a tangent there being able to communicate this way

02:34:32.700 is really special to me because you may have noticed i don't have any outs of true books out

02:34:40.460 there i'm not that guy i don't write well i don't feel like i can when i sit down to write something

02:34:46.860 i think i can write a really good paragraph but man it's rough if i'm gonna write a really good

02:34:53.180 page and to try to write a really good chapter is just kind of beyond my current skill set

02:34:59.980 but i can talk on here for hours and hours and hours and get it all out and it sounds like a

02:35:07.100 lot of you find find it useful or if not useful at least entertaining and i appreciate our audience

02:35:13.580 so i'm i i love it i'm i'm really happy this is one of the more effective and better things that

02:35:21.180 that i've done um what to look for in this future um not sure we're gonna get to a point where i'm

02:35:29.400 gonna ask for ideas on shows because you know as far as completely new ideas sometimes it's hard

02:35:37.500 to cover one of the best things about the show though is even if we start out with an idea that's

02:35:42.340 that's whatever that we put out there. The questions are what make the show. The quote

02:35:47.680 unquote topic of the show, like tonight, we're having a lot of runic questions. But you'll see

02:35:52.500 on the hero episodes, sometimes we won't get a question at all about the hero, and we'll just

02:35:56.460 talk about stuff. And because AUSA True isn't locked in the past, it's something that we're

02:36:04.020 currently doing. There's always things to talk about. So I don't know, I'm looking forward to

02:36:10.640 getting this on more platforms that interact with more people and finding a bigger, better

02:36:18.800 audience. I say better, and that's not right, but a bigger audience for this. One of the hardest

02:36:24.040 things that I've found in my time in the AFA, specifically in my time, well, all my time in

02:36:30.260 the AFA has been folk building at least. We have this bubble and getting outside that bubble to

02:36:39.820 folks that haven't any familiarity about AUSA True and maybe aren't in the circles that we all

02:36:45.960 run in, that's the challenge. So I really hope that some of these broadcasts within the next

02:36:52.380 year and in the future can get out to different groups of people that have never heard about this

02:36:57.280 before and i'm excited to see how that develops um next question is do either of you have a

02:37:09.360 favored rune swan what's your favorite room i'm looking for right now actually because i saw that

02:37:15.360 question coming up i was like oh that's a good one uh yes i do they're all the mysteries of the

02:37:21.680 runes are you know across the board by far my favorite and most i think the mysterious there's

02:37:28.240 there's two of them that are very very mysterious and um but and their relation to each other

02:37:34.560 according to history like just what i said about the uh kelver stone and the vetsna break day and

02:37:39.360 their their numeric switches and things like that but perthro is one but this is absolutely my my

02:37:47.760 favorite rune iwas uh whether you see it in this kind of hooked formulation or whether you see it

02:37:55.280 perhaps in the um the uh three facing down sometimes called the death rune um iwas is my

02:38:03.760 favorite because of its it's um the mystery even the phonetics um and even even dr flowers in his

02:38:11.520 books talks about the uncertainty of the phonetic usage throughout history makes it kind of

02:38:18.000 mysterious um uh as well but yes it is my favorite room he was the you the you tree uh for anybody

02:38:27.600 you know y-e-w the english usage of the tree the eu tree um it's called the eu tree or the eu rune

02:38:36.240 And it is, yeah, connected to about the movement of up and down, the idea of the movement between the upper, the middle and the lower, its connections to death and its connections to the cycle of understanding.

02:38:51.400 So it's kind of a combination of cosmic order and natural law right in the center of the Futhark.

02:39:05.040 it's it's truly an interesting rune based also on the rune before it and the rune after it

02:39:11.120 just planting those seeds out there so if you want to go look

02:39:14.800 and consider those kind of are the revelations of that but yes that is my favorite room you know i

02:39:23.840 i'm not it i'm gonna pick one because that's the point of the question i'm not gonna dodge

02:39:29.120 the question but but i don't um i don't have a favorite room i i mean i do because you're asking

02:39:41.200 me to pick one and i can pick one but at different times of my life especially when i was newer to

02:39:48.000 alsatru i'd have one room that would be you know particularly like that's my jam right then

02:39:55.120 but they're part of a connected system and so there's not really one that doesn't connect

02:40:03.800 with the other and it's like what's okay this is literally it's not because as i've mentioned

02:40:10.680 there's more depth to the runes but like what's your favorite letter in the alphabet

02:40:14.120 it's kind of a strange question and that's the runes are such a part of of my life at this point

02:40:23.940 it feels like that a little bit but i'd say my favorite rune is rhido and uh for all the

02:40:31.300 reasons that we use it as the the sigil of our priesthood um for its idea of right action at

02:40:40.420 the right time for its connection to knighthood and nobility and the man upon the horse riding

02:40:47.060 forward nobly um there's a lot of a lot of things that i've attached to it and hitch my cart to that

02:40:55.140 i think are are really special so i'd have to go with that one was that pun intended too the hitch

02:41:00.580 in your cart the wagon right that's that's all right a little bit um seeds getting dropped in

02:41:09.700 there do what i can so the speed i got it all right so um we have a a super chat over on entropy

02:41:18.900 and i really really appreciate that fifty dollars thank you so much um will you ever attempt to

02:41:25.780 interview the host of survive the jive i want to see what he thinks about also true and i'd

02:41:31.140 love to simply see the interview i think also true so complex question

02:41:41.540 i would really like okay i would be very happy to talk to uh thomas

02:41:50.660 at any point he would like to talk to me um

02:41:54.420 Um, the rest of it is complex. Um, I actually got to meet him once at a

02:42:08.600 Northwest forum event put on by counter currents. Uh, and he was a great guy,

02:42:16.480 really nice guy to talk to. I, I don't have any negative view of him and I don't want to put that

02:42:23.880 out. I don't have random guests on the program. The guests that I have are all leaders one way

02:42:39.980 or another in our church, because this is a, you know, a church broadcast of the AFA.

02:42:46.420 i think that thomas is really interesting when it comes to

02:42:56.100 ancient anglo-saxons and how they practiced things but i think he deliberately

02:43:06.180 ignores modern practice or

02:43:12.020 there's no way to say it that doesn't sound insulting but i i like the guy

02:43:16.420 Um, it's offensive that he pretends that people have not been practicing also true now for 60 years. People have put so much blood, sweat and tears into this in that time that to deliberately neglect to recognize that that's a thing.

02:43:45.420 is a deliberate omission that's really unfortunate because the circles he's in,

02:43:53.300 he knows better than that. And again, I think he's one of those guys that practices,

02:43:59.540 and I don't mean to question his faith because I think that he is a pagan of some sort or feels

02:44:09.160 that he is but i've never heard of him talk about our gods in a truly religious context

02:44:18.840 i hear him talk about them in a academic context and i don't think what we're doing isn't academics

02:44:27.560 i think there's a time and a place for that and i think academics can inform some of our practice

02:44:33.400 but we are we are a religion we have a relationship with our gods that we've been building

02:44:40.840 in one way or another for almost 60 years it'll be 59 years here at some point very soon when

02:44:47.800 steve mcnalen first established his relationship with the all-father and brought us modern

02:44:56.280 also true as we know today the afa itself has been around for 28 and a half years at this point

02:45:05.320 um so no i don't think we would have i i don't think i'd invite uh thomas rousel on this

02:45:13.720 program i'd be happy to talk to him in another context at any point in time and uh think he's

02:45:20.040 a good guy i'm not i don't have anything against him i'd be glad to have him on the show if he

02:45:24.760 If he decided to join the Alice True Folk Assembly, he is he's certainly welcome to come on as a guest at that point.

02:45:30.440 But if he doesn't, then I don't really think this is an appropriate venue for an interview like that.

02:45:40.380 But like I say, really, really good guy.

02:45:43.520 When I met him, I don't have anything bad to say about him on a personal level.

02:45:48.160 And yeah, please. I don't want that to be taken any more negatively than than it needs to be.

02:45:54.760 um why are the runes why are rune pulls done sometimes at the end of wayfarers bloat and not

02:46:02.520 every time because we have different gothar performing that bloat i think that you have been

02:46:11.960 at a number of wayfarers bloats uh the person who asked this question has been a number of

02:46:17.080 wayfarers bloats performed by sheila mcnalen and githy mcnalen likes to do that more than some other

02:46:25.880 people do um and so i think that's the lens you're seeing it in i think it's done

02:46:34.040 well you know i i think it's fairly rare when that's done in a wayfarer's bloat

02:46:38.680 i don't think there's anything wrong with that certainly i think it gives you

02:46:43.000 what's kind of cool for it in a wayfarer's bloat is it gives you something to ponder that you take

02:46:49.880 away from whatever event you're at so it you leave on a note where you have something to think about

02:46:57.960 something to meditate on something to go through that process of thinking how that plays out in

02:47:04.680 your life what that relevance is to you and i think it's kind of a cool thing in that way

02:47:09.880 but the reason it's sometimes and not always is that's not the purpose of the wayfarer's bloat

02:47:15.400 that's a great addition to a wayfarer's bloat absolutely but the purpose of the wayfarer's bloat

02:47:22.120 is to keep the people safe as they travel home to wherever they're going

02:47:28.040 so that's the key purpose and that needs to be at every single wayfarer's bloat is invoking

02:47:33.960 one or more of our gods to protect the people there as they leave the event and go home.

02:47:42.580 Anything beyond that is kind of an extra. And that's what that is. It's a really cool extra.

02:47:47.900 And I love when Sheila does that. I always spend a good portion after that contemplating whatever

02:47:54.120 room that i that i pull um what are your thoughts on runes being used in tattoos

02:48:07.560 i have nothing against it i don't think there's anything wrong with it i also have zero tattoos

02:48:11.960 so i'm not an expert on that subject svan as a man with with ink from a man what are your thoughts

02:48:19.320 what are your thoughts um it depends again uh i would say first and foremost it's worth noting that

02:48:29.000 are you a are you taking you could take the runes and apply them to attack in tattoo format

02:48:36.600 for various reasons for instance if you are ethnically a teutonic germanic arian and you

02:48:44.840 want to honor your ancestors by placing runes upon your body that is 100 within your right to

02:48:52.680 do so i think it's kind of a you know again it's it's that that question of like well is it okay

02:48:58.120 to get like ancient japanese or chinese uh pictogriffs or glyphs on you or or whatever

02:49:05.160 but you know so if you're doing it from a traditional standpoint i think really you

02:49:09.640 You don't even have to be beholden into the devotion and worship of the gods to own those symbols that are intrinsically and culturally ours.

02:49:23.540 But if you're coming at it from a religious standpoint, yeah, I think it's worth having some context as to exactly how you're applying them.

02:49:31.240 Um, but if you're talking about the manifestation of, uh, the rune itself and its power, I come from a school of runic thought that you have to follow specific steps in order to manifest the runic power correctly.

02:49:50.260 And this is taking place, you know, in the Havamal when it is asked, do you know how to sacrifice them? Do you know how to gift them? That stanza is talking about the creation of the runes in my runic school of study.

02:50:07.580 so by doing so you are in essence enacting various parts of the runic um structure the recipe the

02:50:17.980 the entirety of the equation uh but not entirely if you if you're getting it done by an artist who

02:50:23.580 doesn't know the runes he's simply or she's simply just tracing and copying there's a a factor there

02:50:31.180 in which there's the galder is not being spoken and so the the power manifestation of those runes

02:50:36.700 i believe are not in their fullest formulation there are key components that are there but the

02:50:45.500 intrinsic equation to create the absolute desired outcome are not entirely there so i don't take much

02:50:54.300 um offense or i guess offense is not the right word but it's like when i see runes on on people

02:51:01.180 you know i don't go oh you you need to be careful what you inscribe on your body because you

02:51:06.460 yes that wisdom is good but the entirety of the formulation is not fully there

02:51:12.700 um you know if if you had a vitki or a magus or a a person who is wise in this way and they

02:51:21.740 could tattoo and sing the galder and um you know do the proper steps then then you could manifest

02:51:29.260 the rune in a in a magical sense but the the the runes themselves have that gray zone

02:51:36.700 if you're intending to have a magical effect you need to have a vitki who can tattoo and

02:51:44.300 speak the galder and know what the rune means as opposed to just going to a tattoo parlor and

02:51:49.020 saying hey write this up because it's gonna you know um give me lots of money or something like

02:51:56.140 you know it's like that that's what this uh bind room is the internet told me that this bind room

02:52:00.460 gives me lots of money so rando person at this place can you put it on my arm um that kind of

02:52:06.940 stuff i don't think works out the way people may want to um and so between those two lines i think

02:52:15.020 most people are getting them as an expression of honor towards the gods or towards their ancestors

02:52:21.580 or towards their ethnic heritage and i think that that's absolutely okay i think that our ancestors

02:52:27.900 uh and it's been remarked numerous times have done that i would also say western civilization

02:52:35.500 it's important to deeply consider what you're getting done and where you're getting it done

02:52:41.980 i don't have any tattoos beyond my uniform lines is the the military term for it is you know not

02:52:49.660 having uh you know whether you're wearing short sleeve or long sleeve the idea is that you don't

02:52:55.340 you know need to have uh tattoos beyond your uniform lines because they do have cultural

02:53:01.020 context within our i guess the the overall culture so consider that i think that's important

02:53:07.900 um having them on your hands and having them above your neckline and things like that um

02:53:12.780 you know, we can say, you know, nowadays it doesn't matter. I mean, it does. It does matter.

02:53:21.300 And no matter how many times people gnash their teeth at it, I think it's worth noting. So have

02:53:26.880 consideration as to where you put it, but have pride in what you put on you and have some

02:53:32.940 forethought. Seek out counsel. Ask people, ask the Gothar, what do you think about these runes

02:53:39.200 this bind rune i'm thinking about placing it on my skin and i think that the wisdom of and the

02:53:44.800 counsel of the ghost gothar will can help shed some light on that but as far as doing it i don't

02:53:51.840 i don't i think it's perfectly fine it's just you should have wisdom in everything you do

02:53:55.920 and that this is no different so swan i'm gonna let you go first on this next one also so

02:54:04.000 how do you meditate on the how do you meditate on the rooms okay um uh depending if i'm talking

02:54:18.560 about formal in the formal meditational practice that i do um as it was taught to me um the general

02:54:27.840 ideas that i sit in a comfortable chair usually oftentimes with no back so it's like a stool um

02:54:36.800 it's mentioned as the thuler's chair the stool um with a back straight and and feet firmly

02:54:45.040 planted on the ground hands placed upon my thighs and a breathing process is brought about um and i

02:54:54.000 attempt to gain a rhythm of breathing and then i start by galdering the rune um in the set form

02:55:04.240 formula that i was taught and then i hold that image in my mind and i then try to silence myself

02:55:13.600 and leave the vacuum of the noise that i created to to ruminate on the the rune itself sometimes

02:55:23.680 i try to hold the image as long as i can without any uh enticement of thought i just try to hold

02:55:31.360 image and sound other times i open myself up to the inclinations of what my my mind my my my huer

02:55:41.280 is fanciful to do which is to look for symbols signs and connectivity and and maybe i interpret

02:55:48.960 things out of it sometimes it's pulling from my mini my memory and it's just kind of re-invoking

02:55:55.760 ideas and then from those things i i try to ponder while walking while waiting while while moving

02:56:02.640 around in the world after the meditative practice i try to think about what that might mean and

02:56:10.800 sometimes it comes to revelations of thought and sometimes it doesn't but um yeah i i formally sit

02:56:17.920 down and do this and generally i do it with one rune and i do it um with the with the intent of

02:56:26.000 doing uh to hold that thought all day so my meditative practices can take anywhere from a

02:56:31.680 minute to uh sometimes i've lost almost an hour on a singular room without quite really realizing

02:56:38.320 the time lapse um but that's how i i meditate is to me it's it has to be this way it's it's a

02:56:46.480 formalized, um, tradition that was set before me. So oftentimes in order for me to broach and

02:56:53.640 the, the, the sacred and to leave away the mundane, I have to do these steps. I have to

02:57:00.800 sit down. I have to place my hands on my lap. I have to have no backer on the chair. I have to

02:57:05.520 start breathing. I have to induct the, uh, the galder, see the symbol. And then the meditation

02:57:12.620 begins. I believe very heavily in formulaic orthopraxy because I believe that when you have

02:57:19.780 a formula that it can help you separate yourself from the mundane. It's kind of like having an

02:57:27.360 airstrip in which your plane takes off from. So you need to have all of the ideas of where you're

02:57:36.060 going, the headwinds, have communication to the tower, you have to have your fuel inset.

02:57:41.400 everything has to be set and you go through this process and then you take off and it allows that

02:57:46.260 kind of freedom to meditate whether you're trying to hold focus or be influenced by imagery that's

02:57:53.820 how I do it so I typically do like I said earlier on divination or anything else I like the three

02:58:09.480 rune deal. I like the progressive three rune sequential thing for whatever I do. As far as

02:58:19.060 runic meditation, I haven't done this in a while and I need to and I've been thinking about

02:58:26.060 doing a couple more of these intentionally again. I like to do my stuff at night. Some people really

02:58:35.000 like to do these things in the morning i think it just depends on you know how you're wired

02:58:41.720 personally at night i feel more i don't know spiritually in tune i guess um not a real morning

02:58:51.000 person per se um so at night after you know everybody else has gone to bed and i've got

02:59:02.760 But because you really, especially me, I've got a lot of things on my mind and I'm easily

02:59:08.400 distracted because there's a lot going on.

02:59:11.160 So I need quiet and stillness.

02:59:15.820 And if I can get in a place like to sit in front of my altar, either sitting down on

02:59:24.280 the floor, Indian style, or pulling up a chair to it, I think a chair to it feels a lot better,

02:59:30.180 especially the older I get. But not not laying down, not something where I could fall asleep

02:59:36.940 doing it. And then for ambiance and for focus and everything else, I will light the candles on my

02:59:46.540 altar, have incense going, make an offering to to the gods, usually at least to to Odin as as the

02:59:59.660 master of the runes, just as kind of a courtesy before I go into my rune at Galder, unless it's

03:00:09.380 done specifically in prayer. And then depending upon what I'm trying to do, I will select three

03:00:19.740 runes that exemplify that in a way that makes sense to me at the time sequentially, like from

03:00:31.700 this to that will come this, maybe. This plus A plus B equals C, something to that effect.

03:00:40.460 And I have an outcome that I'm shooting towards. I have something that I want to produce through

03:00:49.140 the meditation, something that I'm specifically trying to meditate about. So I have that intent

03:00:56.100 firmly there. And then I galled her sequentially and I do, you know, one whole long deep breath

03:01:05.740 for each of the runes. And, you know, I do them in sequence over and over and over and over and

03:01:16.020 over again and I'll set my, I'll set a timer on my phone. So an alarm will go off after I've done

03:01:21.460 this for a certain amount of time. Um, I'll select something. I know that this will sound very not

03:01:31.060 ambitious for real adepts at meditation. There's people who can do this, you know, for an hour or

03:01:36.940 more and can, can do this for a long time. It's hard for me to do that. So I'll set it for 10

03:01:44.000 minutes sometimes 15 i've done 20 and i will you know

03:01:53.360 with every cycle of breath you know i'll breathe in and then i'll breathe out

03:01:59.600 galder in one of those rooms and one two three one two three one two three until eventually

03:02:07.360 because i've got in the pattern and i don't have to think about that i'm gallering you know whatever

03:02:16.560 answers urus now these or whatever

03:02:21.960 and i this one's hard to describe i'll reach a point where the galder and the movement of my

03:02:34.160 mouth becomes automated and my mind separates from the action of making the noise. So I can

03:02:44.380 keep intoning the noise while my mind is free. And that's the way that I know how to get to that

03:02:52.940 place where body and mind bifurcate there. I can keep making that sound and it's almost like

03:03:04.020 i can be off to the side observing myself making the sound like i'm i'll have the thought like wow

03:03:13.700 my face is moving and i'm not telling it to i'll have that conscious thought and whatever portion

03:03:19.780 of my brain is then not making my mouth make the noise is free to to visualize this that

03:03:28.580 i'm meditating on and that's really special if i can hit that point i'm not saying i always do

03:03:35.060 and it's not always perfect but when i can that's when my mind is free to commune across the veil

03:03:46.580 and that's when the images start to occur and that's when um some really profound things can

03:03:53.780 happen sometimes when i do that um and i found that to be really effective so i do that again

03:04:01.220 whenever my alarm goes off it snaps me out of it i continue until i'm to the end of my sequence i

03:04:06.740 don't you know just stop there i finish it off and uh you know go through whatever process of

03:04:14.660 blowing out the candles you know giving thanks to to the gods if i've invoked them to help me

03:04:19.940 And that's how I do it.

03:04:32.040 The next question is, do the runes that you associate with the gods and goddesses change from time to time or are they mostly the same?

03:04:44.000 So I this is kind of a theme as well on some of these shows.

03:04:49.940 i don't think that it works like that all the time now some runes are named after our gods

03:04:59.720 so they have an obvious association and i don't pretend that's not the case

03:05:04.900 but the greater mysteries of the universe exist beyond the gods to where the gods could meditate

03:05:14.440 on these runes as well. It's where the runes exist objectively from the gods. It's not like,

03:05:20.680 oh, this is the god of this rune. This is the god of that rune. And when I say that, it's more

03:05:26.060 complex than that. Obviously, Tyr is the god of Tiwa's rune, but he's more than that. Other gods

03:05:35.560 can be associated with that rune, or that rune can be relevant to them, just like Lord Tyr can

03:05:43.780 associate himself with other runes for other purposes. You know, we had a question on the

03:05:52.240 side, like, is Njord the sea god? Well, yes and no. All of our gods can have some relation to

03:05:58.620 people who are on the sea doing different things. Is that primarily Njord Njord's focus? Yes,

03:06:06.280 but there's much more to him. He's a warrior god as well. He's a financial god of prosperity.

03:06:12.040 he's a god of abundance

03:06:13.800 he's a god of all of these things

03:06:15.580 it

03:06:17.580 limits it to say that

03:06:19.740 you know

03:06:20.460 Yngvaz is only the rune of

03:06:23.060 Freyr

03:06:24.020 it is his rune but

03:06:27.540 he does

03:06:29.360 other runes are relevant to him as well

03:06:31.640 just like that rune is what relevant

03:06:33.660 to other gods as well

03:06:34.960 but yeah the ones

03:06:37.660 that are obvious stay obvious

03:06:39.120 and the ones that are obscure

03:06:41.540 you know you can apply them depending on what you're doing uh spawn what are your thoughts

03:06:46.500 yeah you kind of actually something you just said uh kind of pinged into my head uh to

03:06:52.260 to help uh it's synonymous with what you're saying is a perfect example the inguas rune

03:06:58.980 inguas rune is could be absolutely associated with the lord fray ing or the lord ing um

03:07:05.780 Um, but you could absolutely apply it to say the Lord Vidar and his encapsulation space

03:07:14.960 in which he releases corrective action and corrective, um, fate, corrective or law at

03:07:21.920 the correct moment at when the gods need him to, to, to, uh, set asunder the, the chaos

03:07:31.140 wolf um i had a question about that too because somebody was talking about the the the rune

03:07:37.460 soul willow or the rune soul or the rune um saul the the sun rune and and and also to understand

03:07:45.940 that that rune doesn't necessarily only connect itself to to soul or to suna or to the sun

03:07:52.580 but to light and also to the um the the meaning of it is like the uh the uh

03:08:00.420 uh what would be the the banishment of snakes it's it's mentioned in the uh poem is that you

03:08:06.740 know the the the shadows do not sit long and it banishes snakes and it melts ice and so suddenly

03:08:13.380 there's a poetic meaning that's intrinsically encapsulated in the meaning of the rune so

03:08:20.580 So somebody was asking, like, well, okay, so if Sunnah or the sun or soul or light has a rune, so clearly in the Futhark, what would be the rune for the moon?

03:08:34.740 And that's, I was like, wow, that's a great question.

03:08:36.960 I mean, I would say, like, even though Dayur or Dagaz, the dawn rune, is called the dawn rune, what it is greatly influencing is about the turning of light into, or turning from darkness into light.

03:08:52.840 And, I mean, clearly when you think about the waxing and waning of the moon and the cycles of light that happen around us, it could have importance there, even though it's called the day rune or the dawn rune.

03:09:06.960 Or perhaps we could look at Ewa's, the rune of the horse. The rider and horse are united in teamwork, moving along the corrective path.

03:09:16.960 So like I was trying to formulate connections based off of interpretations. And you can do this greatly because the gods do have a lot of those connections.

03:09:29.140 if we talk about the the gift rune and we think about the sacrifice that ovin did in order to

03:09:35.060 find the runes then if you think about the sacrifice of tier and his hand to the wolf

03:09:43.220 uh or the or you i i actually add in uh the mural at murzhof um the central rune in there is

03:09:52.100 uh the gift rune and it's it shows the uniting factor between the vanir and the icier and they're

03:10:00.260 they're coming to um equilibrium together where the cosmic law and that i mean a cosmic order

03:10:07.460 natural law come into alignment and i use that rune as the symbolic of that meaning

03:10:12.820 especially considering that the in the uh runes the way that they're written um the gift rune

03:10:19.060 the the rune that follows that is the joy room so i really wanted to encapsulate the idea that after

03:10:25.780 they had made truce there was a golden age of unification amongst the gods that led to to joy

03:10:33.860 to wunyo so you can it's really about i think understanding your interpretations and finding

03:10:42.500 your intent and seeking those things but not to pigeonhole the gods into saying well the only

03:10:49.540 color that that odin wears is dark blue if he wears anything else he's not oh then he's not it's

03:10:54.740 not olden if it's not rams for thor then it's not thor it's like oh god please stop like

03:11:04.820 these symbols are are for us to better understand and relate to the gods what the gods

03:11:11.620 can have whatever they want as far as their the the symbols of them um so yeah the runes have

03:11:20.340 multiple meanings it's just really about your interpretations and understanding

03:11:24.020 i consider the the uh runes number nine number ten and number eleven uh which are the first three

03:11:31.220 runes of the second etud which we we haven't gone into yet but the the families separate the elder

03:11:37.620 of food truck is separated into three families and the first three runes of the second family

03:11:43.540 or etud um i call those the nornir runes which is the hail rune the need rune and the ice rune

03:11:51.220 and that's because my that that was how it was taught to me um and so i often associate those

03:11:56.900 with the nornir and they come after the age of peace when the gods create and and have the gift

03:12:04.020 rune there's an age of joy and happiness and then from the east three thirst maidens come

03:12:11.460 and it is the nornir and so the second ethor it ends up coming after the peace of the gods

03:12:17.220 and they show up and so the the story that that's taking place in the futark is

03:12:23.380 encapsulated kind of symbolically and you know as we go there's more but that's that's what i mean

03:12:28.740 you can find meaning even though those three runes have no specific connection written in

03:12:35.620 relation to the nornir i was taught because of viewing the the futhark in a kind of uh epochs

03:12:44.740 and story uh ages the the three nornir um kind of coming together has significance and so they've

03:12:53.380 always been encapsulated for me in those three rooms even though it doesn't outright say this is

03:12:58.100 the the nornir um do you believe that there are runes lost to time or runic mysteries

03:13:12.660 that have yet to be discovered

03:13:16.580 yes that's a good question it's a very simple answer and i will add some fluff to it but yes

03:13:24.900 and i'm trying to think of the lines in in the rune at all on that but

03:13:42.500 the runes that we got that men got were runes that were useful to men

03:13:52.280 um I think as we expand beyond Earth and beyond our solar system and do different things the

03:14:04.580 universe is vast there are there may well be mysteries out there that are yet to learn runically

03:14:15.440 um can't say that there are because if i know that there are then they're not really unknown

03:14:22.460 they're known in some way so maybe there are maybe there aren't but i certainly do think

03:14:26.820 you know and a friend of mine and i have pondered on that you know what

03:14:30.760 what runic revelation would look like when there are you know other mysteries that are beyond our

03:14:40.780 our knowledge. Maybe those of us that, you know, if we find ourselves fortunate enough to ascend

03:14:50.520 beyond the veil, maybe we learn more. There's runes that are useful for Alphar and they're

03:14:59.440 useful for the gods. And I think that those levels of runes might be different or additional to ours.

03:15:06.780 um runes lost to time there may have been runes that were very relevant to our most ancient kin

03:15:16.620 that lost relevance i believe that the all-father will provide us that are willing to seek and

03:15:25.920 willing to find those boundaries, that are willing to gleam the cube, I think he'll provide the

03:15:37.420 runes that are needful to us when we need to know them, as long as we're searching and we're

03:15:43.200 diligent in that. But I think we know the runes that we're supposed to know for now, but I do

03:15:49.480 hold open the option that more might be taught to us later. What are your thoughts on that,

03:15:55.400 swan is this something you've ever put and put any thought to yeah i i have wondered about this

03:16:01.640 because when we talk about the formulations of futharks and how were they formalized before

03:16:08.440 how did they come to be oh the chat i was reading the chat earlier too some of these are

03:16:14.920 no i just am recognizing my nonsense i do when i'm searching for my words and i look up and i do

03:16:20.280 well the um the biggest thing to understand is i think that the power of the runes comes in

03:16:27.800 the vibrational sequence and i think what you were talking about is our understanding of the runes

03:16:33.960 might be very uh different say 100 500 years from now perhaps without a greater understanding i i

03:16:44.280 do believe that the the validity of the the idea and the power of sound and the sacrifice that

03:16:51.480 odin made in order to attain it will become far more i think our ancestors will learn what that

03:16:58.200 exact that that mystery means i right now we're just now starting to realize that uh how important

03:17:05.720 sound is in the creation of all things um how it is connected as one of the biggest

03:17:14.280 building blocks of the universe whether we're talking about light heat sound gravity these are

03:17:20.960 really big things and when so when we talk about olden at you know in the mythic sense

03:17:30.480 hanging from the tree in order to attain the runes are we also talking about

03:17:36.580 a divine being delving into the core flux of the the universe as it is as it has orchestrated

03:17:50.700 itself out um through weird through orlog and he becomes a part of it and then brings back that

03:17:59.420 that knowledge to his fellow divine beings um that's huge that is that is massive so

03:18:11.020 i think that old runes new runes if we're talking about symbols perhaps not but understandings

03:18:17.900 absolutely i think there's understandings of the runes that we don't

03:18:21.020 know about and we might find out about in the past and certainly in the future

03:18:29.420 i see a question that's kind of like one we've already answered but

03:18:41.960 um you know we have a couple of we've been we've been doing we've i don't know whenever we've been

03:18:48.460 doing these for a few hours we get uh different cycles of audience because it's a lot for people

03:18:54.140 to digest all at once. I get that. Question. My birthday was last Sunday. I met my brother and

03:19:03.360 parents. He is suffering from a mental problem and taking meds that made him sick. What rune

03:19:10.820 could be used to help him and could everyone pray to air and um

03:19:20.820 a latir via for him um

03:19:28.980 yes but you and i hope that you're still around um i would have answered if i would have seen

03:19:35.140 this question come through i would have answered it immediately and moved it up in the line and

03:19:39.060 i'm sorry for that um if you're still around and i'm not sure if you are if you could give

03:19:45.220 us his name i think it'd be much more effective in making prayers towards

03:19:52.340 i think depending upon the nature of his mental illness that's going on that he's

03:19:58.580 taking meds for i think that might affect the answer but honestly i don't

03:20:09.060 I, you can build other runes around it, but the go-to rune for that is Uruz. Uruz is the healing rune.

03:20:21.560 um it is the rune that the all-father referred to in his uh runa tall and it's

03:20:37.880 you know a second I know that the sons of men who wish to be healers need and that is that

03:20:43.940 So I think that's the best one. I've used that in effective healing rituals that I've done. That's what I'd recommend. But again, I may add on to that depending on what his particular situation is. Svan, what are your thoughts?

03:21:03.940 yeah my go-to right away when you said was was urus i think in combination with it is uh

03:21:10.180 congruent with another rune uh lavus which has connections to the mind and also connections to

03:21:16.180 healing leech craft or leak craft the idea of utilizing medicine through um um the the leak

03:21:25.300 or the the garlic is uh continuously through our lore associated with health and well-being

03:21:31.300 i'm not promoting garlic is the answer what i'm saying is that it's connected to

03:21:35.620 the the work of healing and the work of making one well and uh if another rune was to be applied i

03:21:43.940 think i think nathis is another good rune because it's a it's a rune of constraint it's a rune of

03:21:50.420 mooring so if there's a sense that perhaps there's a an unraveling of the components of the mind the

03:21:59.380 mini and the huir then perhaps the idea would be urus again for health and healing strength of the

03:22:06.580 body and the soul lagus for healing and for medicine and the calming of the mind especially

03:22:13.860 in the realm of dreams and water the blood and then nafis to contain and hold um the course

03:22:23.300 uh to to bind the mind and to keep it from the unraveling or the the it stops uh

03:22:31.860 in purgement stops the purging of things okay so um awesome he's still in the chat

03:22:40.260 the brother's name is vincent so anybody who would like to to say a prayer for the health and

03:22:47.860 well-being of vincent please you are encouraged to do so if you'd like um i think i wish him the

03:22:56.580 best i hope that uh i hope that he finds some healing with with his situation and some events

03:23:02.740 that are more agreeable with his system all right and

03:23:11.940 And so you guys may notice I might be a little bit distracted here.

03:23:19.180 It's because I'm searching for a particular verse in the lore that was relevant to something we were doing.

03:23:25.100 And I wanted to quote it or bring it up.

03:23:28.320 So I'll find that and it'll be worth it here in a second.

03:23:33.860 I don't know. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. We'll see.

03:23:37.140 Why did Odin have to lose an eye to gain wisdom?

03:23:40.720 It's fun.

03:23:41.940 Okay, well, there's a couple of things for that, but it wasn't, it was a particular type of wisdom. Let's look at that first.

03:23:55.300 I actually made a brief little hint towards this. I talk about how Odin, in our stories, gave much in order to attain the meed of poetry, the blood of Kvasir, the joy of the poet and the battlesome hero.

03:24:18.320 but what he gave for a draught of water was his eye and the gravity of that situation is is

03:24:26.000 important as well it wasn't life and limb it was something of great value and importance the

03:24:34.080 perception the eyes are symbolic of pers of the perception perceiving and to give up one in order

03:24:43.120 to gain a draught and in essence the the placing of the eye the exchange if you will the gifting

03:24:50.240 the exchange of that draught the internalizing of wisdom versus also the placing of the eye within

03:24:57.280 the mode of the well of mimir the well of mimir what is the well of mimir the well of mimir is

03:25:05.440 where the root of the great tree in heaven expounds its way out to the east to the realm of resistance

03:25:13.120 jotenheim and in that realm all that which flows when resistance flows out things must swim against

03:25:22.160 it it's like it's like a um a current the current's going forward things swim against it and

03:25:28.080 action is created weird is created and so the that weird that action is in essence flowing towards

03:25:38.240 the well of memory it is becoming the memory of that action against resistance and so in order

03:25:46.640 for ovin to see all of the actions that partake against the resistance of of energy that that

03:25:55.600 that causes action he placed his eye within its source so therefore he could see all outcomes of

03:26:02.880 action and that is a huge boon and that's one of the powers of odin we're not talking about the

03:26:10.240 literal we're talking about the divine taking a piece of oneself at loss in order to have gain

03:26:19.840 and there isn't a transaction between time and godhood and so in essence since

03:26:27.360 Odin placed his Mimir's head upon the well of time he found a way to unlock to interact with

03:26:39.480 that which was uninteractable he he in essence if it was locked he created the door and the lock

03:26:48.200 and the key all at the same time in order to gain access to that well. So placing Mimir there was

03:26:57.820 his inn. So he took, again, a great loss. The loss of Mimir to the gods became a gain to the gods

03:27:06.640 again when he placed him on the well as the way, the conduit to get into that well. But when he got

03:27:16.340 there again it was the lock and it was the door but the key was the sacrifice and the sacrifice

03:27:23.300 needed to be made there needed to be something a great value of the divine being of odin lord odin

03:27:31.060 needed to be given in order to gain access so the eye is the key the mirror is the door in the lock

03:27:38.340 and the well is the is the prize it was to know the actions and the outcomes of all things

03:27:46.340 that move against time or through time or through the resistance of time in order to

03:27:52.100 help facilitate fending off the ultimate end the ragnarok of the gods that got to dameron

03:28:00.380 and it was done in order to buy time to gain an extra amount in order to gird heaven to

03:28:11.760 to gird the gods against chaos,

03:28:14.460 to allow them to have more time

03:28:16.120 to gain the soul might of humanity

03:28:18.560 through both birthship and through honoring

03:28:22.240 and through exaltation of the souls,

03:28:24.680 through the Einherjar,

03:28:26.320 also to forge the gods

03:28:27.980 and to build the better barriers

03:28:30.740 that would keep chaos at bay.

03:28:33.160 That's a huge, that's,

03:28:34.240 that's my reasoning,

03:28:38.620 my thoughts upon that.

03:28:40.060 it some of the um the idea as to why he gave his eye the eye was the key to the lock and the gate

03:28:51.820 that he created in order to gain access to something that was unaccessible before then

03:28:57.580 which is what makes Odin so bad act sorry

03:29:11.560 no you're fine um

03:29:18.820 Svahn what is your take and method on Galder

03:29:22.300 ah okay uh we spoke before and i made mention of this when you were away a little while ago

03:29:32.520 i made mention of the uh fee-fi-fo-fum theory that dr um flowers had about how there was

03:29:40.140 might be an intrinsic seed of guldering that's been left um if anybody uh is ever like looks at

03:29:48.320 the um the uh book futhark written by edward thorson he utilizes that vowel scale he uses

03:29:56.400 so for to reiterate again the runes are separated the elder futhark correction i mean the elder

03:30:04.880 futhark is separated into three families and those families are called eiter and each of the eiter

03:30:12.000 have eight runes within them and it is worth noting that the vowel scale of the futhark the

03:30:19.440 elder futhark has two vowels in each eiter could be argued that there's a third one much very very

03:30:27.040 similar to a e i o u and sometimes y in the english language it's it applies same because

03:30:34.480 the futark is germanic but the the there are two vowels in each item so what edrid thorson was

03:30:45.120 was uh theorizing was that the vowel scale is purposeful and so the idea was if there is a

03:30:53.120 consonant rune sound like let's say rune s the s sound then the usage of the vowel scale would then

03:31:03.600 be it can be incorporated what this really is is just another layer moving from the proto sound

03:31:10.560 the bass sound the the or the the origin sound which is just and then moving into another way

03:31:18.880 of formulating its power which is what galder really is about so you could have the s sound

03:31:26.640 you could say the name of the rune and you could also vowel scale that sound connecting it to

03:31:34.320 the first vowel which is ansus i mean which is urus and the second which is ansus the third

03:31:41.520 which is east or ice and and so and we go on as we go through the uh so sometimes there's another

03:31:50.640 way to incorporate that gaining of of layering is by moving through that vowel scale so urus and

03:31:58.400 ansus are the vowels of the first etter and then is and iwas isa and iwas are of the second and

03:32:08.080 ewaz and othala are of the third etter so it would be then u a e e e o so then you're adding

03:32:21.840 the consonant to that um it's very similar to like if anybody if anybody in the audience is

03:32:28.000 familiar with the japanese alphabet it's very similar they they place their consonants and

03:32:32.640 and they have the vowel scale to it. I don't think that he got that from there, but I just,

03:32:38.280 I noticed that that was an interesting kind of comparison. So another layer that you could

03:32:44.600 possibly add into your Goldr is saying the proto sound, saying the name of the room,

03:32:50.260 saying the vowel scale as it formulates. Now, the way I was taught was very specific. And so there

03:32:58.060 was a layering of that there would be the proto sound there would be the vowel scale and then

03:33:04.520 there would be the naming of the room and in between these there are breaths going in and out

03:33:09.840 so there's a diaphragm tempo that ends up creating a numeric pattern that you build as you go and that

03:33:18.380 is referred to in in my school of runic thought as riding the horse is this this uh tempo beat

03:33:27.320 of breathing creates an altered state because you're basically inducing huge amounts of oxygen

03:33:33.480 into your body while you're also doing this galder formula and you're trying to maintain numeric

03:33:40.840 correctiveness while also losing your mind so it's like you're you're losing grips through

03:33:47.080 hyperventilation but also maintaining it through numerics and it creates this state of being

03:33:54.680 that's very hard to maintain and it it ends up creating an um an ecstatic like state where you

03:34:02.760 have this kind of loss of control and maintenance of control and in the middle is what we call

03:34:08.120 riding the horse um but galder can be done that way and even eventually formulating into a poem

03:34:14.440 so you could um start with a proto sound start with the name of the rune start with the vowel

03:34:20.440 scale and then move into words that have synonymous meaning or synonymous sound with

03:34:25.560 alliterative poetry and then you end up you know that's why like in um the rune poems when they

03:34:31.960 speak of the sun rune or the soul rune as being the bane of serpents there's this again serpent

03:34:39.960 has nothing to do with the sun but the sun is the bane of the serpents so now you could create a

03:34:47.320 galder with intent of saying something along the lines of you know uh serpents slip away from sun's

03:34:56.120 rune and that is now a poetic form of the galder as it evolves so goldring could be just as simple

03:35:04.680 or as complex as you need it to be and that's that's about as best as i can do that would be

03:35:13.000 a glass unto itself bear with me on this this translation's a little bit odd but it's what

03:35:20.520 i've got in front of me right now and i think this is we should have done this at the beginning

03:35:27.000 of the show we should have mentioned this um because the runes aren't just all of the things

03:35:35.960 that we've said that they are they are that but they are also an inherited gift given us

03:35:44.040 by the all-father and by his rune quest and our lord that talks about that puts a lot of this

03:35:52.040 into context and i think we were we were uh negligent not to read this at the beginning

03:36:00.040 so i will now this is from i believe stanza 137 in the have them all

03:36:09.320 i know that i hung on that windy tree nights all nine pierced with the spear offered to oven myself

03:36:16.840 to myself high on the tree from which no one knows from where it's it its root rises

03:36:25.880 none refreshed me ever with food or drink i peered down into the deep roaring i lifted them

03:36:35.560 then fell back again nine mighty songs i learned from the great son of bale thorn bestless sire

03:36:44.080 i drank a measure of the wondrous mead with the soul stirs drops i was showered

03:36:51.380 Ere long I bear fruit and throve full well, I grew and waxed in wisdom.

03:37:00.100 Word following word, I found me words.

03:37:03.680 Deed following deed, I wrought deeds.

03:37:07.260 Hidden runes shalt thou seek and interpreted signs, many symbols of might and power.

03:37:13.080 By the great singer painted, by the high powers fashioned, graved by the utterer of gods.

03:37:21.380 for gods graved odin for elves graved dane dvalon the uh dalier for dwarves all wise for jotuns

03:37:34.880 and i of myself graved some for the sons of men note that he says some and not all

03:37:42.500 he graved some specifically for men this is what got me hearkening back to this was that question

03:37:50.160 are there runes yet to discover?

03:37:53.880 Dost thou know how to write?

03:37:55.960 Dost thou know how to read?

03:37:58.200 Dost thou know how to paint?

03:38:00.240 Dost thou know how to prove?

03:38:02.880 Dost thou know how to ask?

03:38:06.400 Dost thou know how to offer?

03:38:08.900 Dost thou know how to send?

03:38:11.120 Dost thou know how to spend?

03:38:14.720 Better to ask for too little

03:38:16.600 than to offer too much.

03:38:18.380 like the gift should be the boom better not to send than to overspend thus oh then graved air

03:38:28.360 the world began then he rose from the deep and came again then it's got all the uh rune songs

03:38:36.520 and we'll talk about these as we go through each of these runes later in subsequent broadcasts

03:38:42.520 but he ends it thusly now the sayings of the high one are uttered in the hall

03:38:50.360 for the wheel of men for the woe of jotun hail to those hail thou who has spoken

03:38:58.440 hail thou who knowest hail ye that have hearkened use thou what thou have learned

03:39:05.800 so i think first i think those are really cool stanzas but beyond that there's nuggets in there

03:39:15.120 that are really important we're um tasked with using what we've learned it's not just something

03:39:24.560 to study it is something to use uh and he talked how there were sons or there were some runes

03:39:31.300 for the dwarves, some for the gods, some for the elves, and some specifically for men.

03:39:39.600 And the use of some is meaningful to me because it does leave that option open that there are

03:39:43.720 runes that we don't know. But yeah, I think that poem is really important and something we should

03:39:54.660 reflect on as we study the runes. And, you know, maybe even each time we go to study the runes,

03:40:01.300 that portion because i think it's really important and i wish we wish would have thought of doing

03:40:06.180 that at the beginning of the broadcast but better better late than never i suppose um

03:40:17.300 alzharia gofi and svan would you agree that the true meaning of rune polls are not always

03:40:23.540 immediately apparent that's been my experience from gofi young svan what are your thoughts

03:40:30.420 100 because the idea is that you're not a psychic and the implication of the information is not

03:40:38.900 uh you don't just download it into your brain and immediately understand it

03:40:43.380 you are interpreting the runes which thus means that the the meaning and the layering of those

03:40:50.740 runes can definitely have more implications that you are unaware of and as you go that's why i'm

03:40:58.580 I am ought to not draw them very often because what ends up happening is the information that's

03:41:07.820 given right away sometimes could be not fortuitous. And then on top of that, you take that

03:41:14.480 into a grander lesson of learning all the implications. And the further you get away

03:41:19.640 and you look back in retrospect, you see all of these interlinking things and you're like,

03:41:24.640 wow they were really really right as to why all of this went down the way it did and i'm speaking

03:41:32.240 about the negative sometimes there is a positive and it is quite good um but sometimes not and uh

03:41:41.600 again you're you're really just peeking into the stream and the flow of creation time resistance

03:41:48.640 and all action and being and or log and weird kind of rolling in the direction you're just

03:41:54.160 getting a chance to kind of lift the cover and see the flow you're not you're not getting a

03:41:59.520 chance necessarily to change it per se though you can willfully move based off of your your

03:42:06.240 understanding at the time but your understanding is still limited it's still that glimpse of that

03:42:11.200 that brief cap coming off it's not the entirety of it all and so yes definitely um that's why i

03:42:19.840 think it's really important that if you do divination work keep a notebook write things

03:42:24.480 down and uh don't get rid of them no matter how much you mess them up no matter how much you

03:42:29.920 scratch out just write it down and retrospectively look back at it for numerous reasons one obviously

03:42:37.920 you'll you'll improve the other thing is you will also find that even though in your ignorance you

03:42:43.600 thought you might have been wrong or you know not knowing but your perception now could very well

03:42:49.440 teach you that you that they were correct it was just your interpretation was misaligned

03:42:55.680 based on your lack of understanding that's huge write a notebook write multiple notebooks

03:43:02.400 yes what's fawn said no realistically that's why i did the little point at the camera thing

03:43:10.400 i am bad about taking notes writing those things down so you can reflect on them later i think is

03:43:16.400 a really really good idea for us all to do um it's one of those you know

03:43:27.680 i think the answer is always yes but there's degrees of yes so sometimes you'll do a rune

03:43:39.920 pull it won't make any sense to you and you're baffled you don't get it something's defective

03:43:45.920 you want to try again because you just don't understand sometimes time will shed light on

03:43:51.040 that in a way that it all of a sudden all hits you at once and clicks or maybe you understand

03:43:56.400 it more over time other times you are zoned in everything's great everything aligns you are on

03:44:04.400 your game and you've got it good but even then as you see it play out there will be little layers

03:44:13.920 of it and little pieces of it that add to your understanding either one of those things teaches

03:44:20.560 you a great deal about it and makes you better equipped for rune pulls in the future

03:44:27.040 always a good idea to keep a journal like swan said

03:44:30.400 something i'm kicking myself that i haven't done and need to start doing

03:44:34.640 all right uh do the three women that reappear in the lore symbolic of daughter wife mother um so

03:44:56.480 people want to get fancy um the theme of maiden mother crone that's legit it's a thing we see it

03:45:11.640 we see the commonality is it just that or as simple as that no in our lore are the nornir

03:45:20.360 fleshed out in a much deeper way than just that? Yes. But I do think the concept

03:45:29.540 still applies. And I think that's one of the magical elements of a woman's existence 0.98

03:45:39.800 is them existing in these very distinct stages of life. I think our ancestors in all branches

03:45:49.920 of Aryan religiosity see that and understand that. And as so often is the case, the microcosm

03:45:59.280 is a reflection of the macrocosm. And I definitely think that there is something to that,

03:46:05.800 but there's much more to it than making it quite that simple. What are your thoughts, Swan?

03:46:10.940 yeah i i think that when we when we talk about pan-arianism we talk about pan uh indo-european

03:46:20.360 faith uh things there are there are archetypes that we derive from the divine uh i'm a believer

03:46:28.260 that the archetypes are influenced by the divine not the other way around and um one of that is

03:46:33.960 that most certainly when we talk about the um evolution of the the the tripartite of of womanhood

03:46:42.280 or femininity is based entirely in natural law that's why there shows this kind of cycle of time

03:46:49.720 um and every time that the feminine powers like that are are emphasized even though the nornir 0.52

03:46:55.800 are eternal they still are connected to the cycles of time in a in the symbology of them

03:47:02.280 and i think that that's that's huge but you know when we talk about like maid and mother crone and

03:47:07.560 we're talking about modern eclectic paganism's usage of that archetype i wonder often if their

03:47:15.080 archetype usage is reversed where they believe that the divine has been influenced by those

03:47:20.760 archetypes which says something about their view of divinity just in general but um at the same

03:47:28.760 time it's intrinsic within our blood so ethnically and folkishly we see that whether it's the greeks

03:47:36.440 and we talk about um the uh is it the mori is that how you pronounce i can't i can't remember

03:47:43.240 how exactly how it's pronounced i'm gonna butcher it but um you know the the fates if you will as

03:47:49.240 it's as referred to in in modern english or the nor near or the the idea of the the weird sisters

03:47:55.320 in macbeth um again this this shows the element of the divine creeping up because it's it's in our

03:48:03.800 blood and so the symbology of that has pertinence but is it in the entirety of them no i think it

03:48:10.200 has more of a bridging effect between us um the the divine is divine and we are mortals and so

03:48:18.360 the mythos between us creates a better understanding for us to gain the wisdom of what the divinity's

03:48:27.880 existence is and that usually takes place in the symbology of time the transference of age

03:48:34.600 colors and you know animals or states of being whether it's um you know ice and fire and uh and

03:48:42.840 and smoke and mist these things are all symbolically showing us about transitions

03:48:49.320 of cycles natural law taking place all right um what are your thoughts on runes being like

03:49:02.040 a note or a chord like a vibrating string for magical work and in their reception when read

03:49:09.720 what are your thoughts on that's fun yeah absolutely believe that they're the the chord

03:49:16.560 sound the only thing that's never i mean what sound exactly you know is the question um

03:49:25.460 is there a correct one or or is it like kind of a a channel a left and right lane where there's

03:49:34.320 kind of a spectrum within each

03:49:36.300 chord as you can bend a

03:49:38.260 sound. You know, you play one chord

03:49:40.220 but you can bend it multiple ways.

03:49:43.120 I do believe that

03:49:44.520 the runes are

03:49:46.400 a frequency. That when

03:49:48.180 Odin returned, he said

03:49:50.400 he went into the darkness

03:49:52.280 referencing the well

03:49:54.420 below the tree, into

03:49:56.380 the water, into the well of earth.

03:49:58.580 He goes down into the darkness

03:49:59.900 and then roaring, he seizes

03:50:02.280 up them

03:50:03.880 The unification of divine sound, I think, is as much as him basically attaining the sounds, is the recitation of the sounds.

03:50:19.740 Odin is the binder, the encapsulator of fetters, the construction of fetters, and the releaser of fetters.

03:50:29.140 So the idea is his attainment, his consumption and his reverberation back out. And I think that takes place in that. I think sound is highly more valuable in our faith and in our mythos than people get at first glance.

03:50:45.920 I made reference to that in BNS with Bragi, the god of music and poetry, also being the ordered sound of the gods, being from Odin.

03:51:01.180 That's very interesting. If you take it in the story, he's the son of Odin.

03:51:04.920 He is now the formulated sound after the attainment of those things.

03:51:10.160 But then he teaches them as a boon to the gods. He teaches the gods about the runes.

03:51:15.920 And it is said that Heimdall then taught Konungur, the king, Koning, amongst the folk, taught him the runes.

03:51:26.140 So, you know, there's the songs, those things that all equates back to frequency and sound.

03:51:35.760 What sounds they are, I couldn't tell you.

03:51:37.920 I couldn't say like, well, this rune is, you know, C sharp.

03:51:42.760 but that's something interesting i think to think about could it be attained or finited into that

03:51:49.200 but as of right now yes i do believe there are frequencies but specifics i cannot state i wish

03:51:55.620 i was more musically inclined i think i would probably go down that road and try to see if i

03:52:00.940 make some headway in understanding that but alas i am not a musician

03:52:07.180 so i uh i don't speak that i'm not a musician either i think there's absolutely something to

03:52:17.080 the vibration um i think that's a thing

03:52:21.360 we've said a lot that uh sound is so very important and we see it time and time again

03:52:33.540 And so I know that that's also a thing, something that I think is a good time to to bring this up is one of the things I most like about Galder when done in a group is the harmony that you get on notes.

03:52:50.880 And you adjust it to the people around you, but it's really special if you're able to do this in ritual with, you know, 50 people or more, if you can all hit the right sound and harmonize with one another.

03:53:11.260 hearing that harmony, something really special happens, and it's a really profound moment when

03:53:20.480 you harmonize that way. So I'm a big fan of that. I like that a lot. That's one of the reasons I do

03:53:28.520 that at the beginning of rituals most often. For people who are listening to, here's just

03:53:37.040 food for thought when you think about the sound frequency of the runes um and what relation they

03:53:42.420 might have or not have or trying to connect make connective tissue let's look at the first etud

03:53:47.700 when you think of when you think of uh the the rune fehu fee there's the f sound the high pitch

03:53:54.640 kind of sound and then it opens up immediately to the next sound being a very mouth sound oh

03:54:02.520 there's a big large breath and opening of the of the system so there's this pressurized high pitch

03:54:09.660 hiss of the f sound then an opening of the u and then right back to the constraint of the th sound

03:54:17.020 which makes a frequency that's high pitched and pressurized and then opens up immediately again

03:54:22.620 to another vocalized ah so we have this f and then the open u then the tightening thirst that

03:54:31.580 the constraint and then the ah again and then after that it's noted that the the

03:54:39.180 raido rune is a clicking sound uh the the rolling r and the idea of progression i often have always

03:54:47.180 equated it to time and to clicking and everything coming into sequence and then after that there's

03:54:52.940 the keen the the k rune the kenos rune and when you make that sound it sounds a lot like someone's

03:54:58.860 flintnapping or making tapping so you notice this kind of like frequencies can actually paint a story

03:55:07.340 of and in correlation to the meaning of the rooms you have that high pressurized fire that opened

03:55:13.260 howling winds then you have that tight grinding thirst sound the of the twisting of of the of the

03:55:21.900 thirst of the of emir and then you have the ah that the gods and the breath of life coming in

03:55:27.580 then there's the the clicking and the ordering and then there's the kenaz is the forming the the the

03:55:33.740 tapping and creating and then the gifting and then joy with again with the sound that ween sound and

03:55:40.540 what do what do children do when they have fun the first thing they say is we you know it's like

03:55:45.180 that that sound of joy is very similar to the wing your sense the wolf sound so these i just

03:55:52.620 wanted to break that down in an idea of like how you could look at the runes based off of sound

03:55:57.180 and frequency as opposed to looking at them as symbols and names specifically listen to the

03:56:04.060 sound sometimes and there's the there's a mystery within there so the next question have you done

03:56:13.420 rune pulls for your own children slash family members i did uh i did a rune pull for aubrey's

03:56:21.180 baby naming that's the only time i think i've done a rune pull for uh any any family members

03:56:29.100 svan what about you yes uh in um private as far as with the name fastenings i um

03:56:38.540 i was unable to well to be fair for my first two children there were no hafs um and um

03:56:47.100 luckily they've grown up in an age of ouser with temples uh to our gods but they were

03:56:52.700 still babies at the time and so i privately did that uh but all of my children were able

03:56:58.620 to also be blessed again uh made reference to the to the uh the maiden and and the

03:57:04.460 the mother and the elder mother um or the nori or the three maidens is my children

03:57:10.620 were also blessed by their mother their grandmother and their great-grandmother who's

03:57:14.780 now 102 um and she got to wash them with water and uh and and brush them but um they uh

03:57:24.780 yes runics uh every year for for um uh odin's night at for yule i i have a tendency to do it

03:57:33.820 for a whole family but sometimes it can pertain to one particular member of the family uh based

03:57:41.420 on need again it's not often it's not frequent enough i think to the point where i would say

03:57:47.980 that it's like um you know if my my son's worried about whether or not he's gonna be able to get um

03:57:56.460 a belt or something in his in his martial arts for you know jiu-jitsu or you know how well

03:58:02.220 he'll do in a competition or something like that i wouldn't need the rooms for that leave that

03:58:07.260 to the to the experience of life but with the great need yes i have

03:58:15.900 all right gentlemen what items are appropriate to have rune carvings drawn on them and uh

03:58:25.020 or to have runes carved slash drawn on them and what items are not if that's the case

03:58:33.580 please touch on the subject of blood binding a bit more uh the do's and the don'ts thank you um

03:58:48.140 most everything uh again you want to be you want to be respectful obviously

03:58:53.340 ridiculous things or vulgar things or gag gifts or, you know, nonsense would be inappropriate

03:59:05.280 to carve runes on. But artistically, there's lots of things you could carve runes on just 0.88

03:59:13.700 completely mundanely because they're beautiful and they're part of our heritage

03:59:16.980 or because you're using it as a form of writing.

03:59:24.180 Yeah, there's most anything I think is appropriate to draw and carve runes on.

03:59:31.500 Again, something silly or vulgar or just blatantly disrespectful, not so much.

03:59:39.820 As far as blooding do's and don'ts go,

03:59:46.980 So, like I said, one of the most important factors in rune work is your connection to what you're doing and your self-exploration through doing it.

04:00:02.320 Your intent, the use of your luck, your hymenia in the magical operation is really important.

04:00:08.820 That's why the idea of blooding a set of runes is meaningful.

04:00:15.660 now i know that a lot of people once they've blooded their runes they're very very particular

04:00:23.700 on anybody else touching them maybe even if they haven't blooded their runes once they're theirs

04:00:29.460 and they feel like they have that connection with them through their blood they don't want

04:00:34.280 anybody else touching them and so that's something just as far as runic etiquette if you have a set

04:00:39.920 of runes or if somebody else does, don't just at random touch their runes. That may be something

04:00:48.300 that they're very, very personal about and might be grossly offended or even in an extreme case

04:00:55.520 have to remake their whole set of runes if you mess that up. So be really careful not to do that

04:01:01.060 without asking the idea of tying them to you by blood i think is is very legitimate um

04:01:13.300 and it's a special spiritual act when you do it um as far as etiquette and like

04:01:20.020 rules do's and don'ts pro tip you may think it's really easy to you know whittle yourself

04:01:28.900 on your finger or something to try to get some blood to blood objects with i have found that

04:01:36.420 that is far more difficult than you think it is i think you could go really fast and go hog and go

04:01:41.060 to town and you might end up needing stitches or cutting your finger off or you go really 0.95

04:01:46.980 tentatively and you doing it yourself it's like it's this just excruciating ridiculous 0.66

04:01:52.740 and a painful process because you're just slowly carving away a hole that you're going to bleed 0.90

04:02:00.380 through. And the other thing is, it has a tendency to, if you're trying to blood a set of rooms,

04:02:07.620 to coagulate, to not work right, the wound to close up, and next thing you know, you're whittling

04:02:13.480 on your finger and it's just no good. So other people may have different advice on this.

04:02:19.700 That's my advice on this. And again, I don't think you should do this unless you're over 18. And I don't necessarily think I'm advising you to do this one way or another. But what I did was I had a needle that was for veterinary something with my dog.

04:02:44.620 my dog needed injections of something i had this extra you know syringe and needle and i had this

04:02:52.460 i don't know i i wrapped my arm really tight to cut off the circulation and i flexed my

04:02:57.820 arm a bunch to build up up some blood flow and then i drew a syringe worth of my own

04:03:04.940 of my own blood and it worked really well because i with my dremel tool when i made the runes

04:03:12.460 you know it dremeled out these little trenches in the wood that i could fill up very easily

04:03:19.260 nice and controlled with the syringe and again i wasn't it didn't coagulate and i was able to use

04:03:25.980 that on my entire room set without having to poke a bunch of holes in myself or make it a

04:03:32.860 a ridiculous thing so again that is not the official advice the austral folk assembly

04:03:38.780 it's just me telling you what i did that worked really good uh spawn what are your what are your

04:03:43.980 thoughts on this um you covered a lot and i the question is kind of broad i would i would just

04:03:51.100 interject that um we know from evidence that there are many different mediums in which you could

04:03:57.580 transfer uh the visage of a symbol i think it's important to understand that the symbol itself

04:04:04.380 and it's carving into something is very important in relation to the i guess in the esoteric usage

04:04:14.460 not in perhaps writing and not even perhaps in just uh maybe marking time or things like that

04:04:21.260 if you are doing esoteric use of runes and you carve into something you are creating a body

04:04:27.820 of it so if you create the body of it then you must give the blood of it and you must give the

04:04:33.180 breath of it and so in essence you are recreating the event of of voden villi and vey coming down

04:04:43.420 and shaping askur and empla so that's where that process is kind of focused around so

04:04:53.740 if you're able to do that let's say like large stones you know generally you might be writing

04:04:59.100 something but let's say for instance you're just doing uh a stave or something to heal or something

04:05:05.820 to bring about something kind of like what we talked about an ale uh scala gunstones saga um

04:05:14.380 you want to consider the the movability of that object if it's a if it's a large stone and you

04:05:19.660 you want to carve it you know the idea is that you're you're going to have to also uh bind it

04:05:24.700 with with love and you're going to have to buy it bind it with breath so the ability to do so

04:05:30.140 is kind of incumbent on whether you could reach it or what have you um so that's a consideration

04:05:36.700 fruit bearing trees is what's is is mentioned in tacitus but we know too that uh brian hilder the

04:05:43.820 the valkyrie says to sigrid he says if you want victory you carve two tear runes at the base of

04:05:51.100 the blade of your sword and you branch victory the runes will grant you victory so now we're

04:05:56.540 talking about metal and there's the the the um inscription on metal so metal uh wood bone i my

04:06:05.580 rune set um which is not it's here but i would have to go look for it is uh isn't is carved on

04:06:12.860 bone um and so you know you can choose your medium i know that people have made uh swift

04:06:23.180 uh something called a tanner it's like a tooth it's a clay white clay formed in the shape of

04:06:30.540 like a a rod or a a tine and on that is a runic inscription a singular rune or a bind rune and

04:06:38.220 it's oftentimes just called a tanner and that is made for a moment a time and then it's you know

04:06:44.780 broken and crushed and thrown away in fire when it is done um so you do that too like i guess it's

04:06:52.220 like molding clay or air dry clay again it's not the medium that you're choosing and the significance

04:06:58.300 is important to you it's the fact that you are creating the body and then you must place the

04:07:02.860 blood and then you must place the breath that is the tripartite you are making so

04:07:09.340 whatever you choose that's fine but when you get into blooding this is how i was taught

04:07:13.660 and this is how i would recommend go to a store and buy a lancet which is a diabetic needle that

04:07:21.340 pricks fingers and then mix it with linseed oil and red ochre that ochre is a very traditional

04:07:29.820 uh pigment coloring that we have found in usage all the way back to the stone age and in relation

04:07:37.420 to um being powdered and placed upon the dead like they're they are uh sprinkled over with red ochre

04:07:45.340 uh so again the the intrinsic connection between life and blood and death are all there but it's

04:07:50.780 also has been used as a pigment for runes so if you take linseed oil and red ochre which is a powder

04:07:57.900 mix those together into a paste and then add nine drops of of your blood from a lancet and then use

04:08:04.780 that to paint your rooms that's how i would recommend it to avoid injuries and various

04:08:13.580 painful possible stitches or infection or what have you um it is mentioned in ale skullagrim's

04:08:20.620 um uh saga that he actually bursts a horn that has poison in it and he does so by slicing his hand

04:08:31.260 it's it's mentioned that he slices the heel of his hand and then he carves a rune in the horn

04:08:37.740 and then places the bloody hand upon the rune and sings the galder and then the horn explodes

04:08:43.900 because it was poisoned now that is really really good stuff that's great i love that story um and

04:08:54.300 that that visceral imagery uh what runes they don't say because again it might not have been

04:09:00.860 known um and it didn't happen exactly like that who knows like it's like depends on where you're

04:09:08.940 on that but uh very very cool story but that's one of the only times i i i recall there's ever

04:09:15.740 a mention of the blood letting in a physical sense like there's reference to usage of blood

04:09:22.140 as a binding to the room but that's the only one i can recall that's physically explained

04:09:28.220 that he cuts the heel of his hand in relation to casting to carving the room and and the desired

04:09:33.900 effect. Beyond that, I was taught to use a lancet to create that mixture of pigment and then to use

04:09:42.260 a brush that was cut at a 45 degree angle so that you could dip it and then place the pigment within

04:09:47.920 the trough of the rune symbol, whatever you carve it on. And of course, if it's vertical, it's very

04:09:54.120 different than if it's horizontal. So again, if you're doing things on stone, you have to take

04:09:58.840 consideration that the pigment is thick enough that it doesn't run out and then run down and

04:10:04.600 kind of mess things up. So that's something worth noting. Another thing that I've heard too is

04:10:09.680 to place, somebody has placed a bloody thumbprint upon the rune and then after it dried, they sanded

04:10:16.200 away the surface level so that the rune itself is the only thing that remained within pigmented

04:10:22.980 blood something to consider but that that takes work later on

04:10:28.500 all right in the rigs thula the runes are taught by heimdallar specifically to the kingly slash

04:10:40.520 priestly class can you speak on this passage often othen is specifically tied to the runes

04:10:47.320 and not so much heimdall swan what are your thoughts on that well i think one thing um

04:10:55.400 there's a there's a desperation i think amongst the scholars and people that have read the the

04:11:01.560 stories snorri still listen first i you have to remember he helenicized a lot so the idea that um

04:11:10.440 you know he kind of really made odin i think intentionally zeus-like in comparison

04:11:17.800 with with intention in some cases but he didn't in this case he made it very specific talking about

04:11:25.400 heim dotler as being uh an emissary between the gods and and men and i think that's because

04:11:32.760 that's a vestige that holds true even before him that it was very very clear to not change that

04:11:39.320 but it's it's the the simple uh reasoning obviously people try to they try to make

04:11:47.160 heimdall and odin oh maybe home heimdall is heimdall is actually olden and it's hypostasis

04:11:54.120 and again we've gone on and on about the cramming of divinity and how disrespectful that is and that

04:12:00.920 we don't do that but there is a reasoning in it in the sense that there's a great power there but

04:12:07.560 But if we look at Heimdallur and we look at Odin respectively in the stories, what they're teaching us, we know that Yggdrasil is in heaven, that the first root is in the well of earth, which is at the base of the tree.

04:12:22.800 So when he hangs himself from the tree, the Axis Mundi in the center of heaven, he becomes part and whole with the tree in which no one knows its roots sprout from, the proto of all creation he is connected to.

04:12:35.920 That's huge. That's powerful. He brings it to the gods. Heimdall, who sits at the threshold of Himenbjörg and Midgarth, he is the light that he's the prism in which the light, the prism of light that through which divinity flows through.

04:12:53.520 he's exalted and brought into the homes of great-grandmother and great-grandfather

04:12:58.360 of course there's those those generations and he teaches konungur or konam teaches them in the

04:13:05.640 runes stories and how you battle and poetry and all that stuff what i really think that is is

04:13:11.040 it's showing that it doesn't make odin less that heindal shared and it shows that the the nature

04:13:21.020 of their being olden is exalting the mysteries from he's extracting the mysteries from the well

04:13:28.700 in in jotunheim he's traveling there he's creating the godhead of time he creates the the lock and he

04:13:35.660 gives the key in order to attain that wisdom he is moving and powerful he's up and down he's he's

04:13:42.220 all around he's dynamic heimdallar is very much connected between midgard and out and ausgard

04:13:50.380 he's he's between heaven and earth he's of the waves he's the fluid nature of cycles and the

04:13:57.500 eternal time of the gods he has a lot of intrinsic power and that doesn't take any less away from

04:14:04.300 thor and if if it does then why are people polytheistic why why why believe in all these

04:14:10.140 of all of all the gods if you're just gonna cram them and and then one has to be so powerful that

04:14:15.980 the others don't really you know they're just all kind of facets of one it gets into ridiculousness

04:14:21.260 but heimdall is that conduit between the folk he is uh we are heimdall's children as it's referred

04:14:29.580 to in um uh you know be quiet and sit still and listen all ye of heimdall's children talking

04:14:37.900 about humanity they're talking about the folk the folk in specifics because of the lessons he taught

04:14:44.460 so heimdall is fulfilling his purpose and and being as what he does he's a conduit between

04:14:53.260 the earth and heaven and mankind in between and just like that odin is a conduit between the

04:14:59.420 primordial mysteries and the gods themselves and that's what makes him so powerful so i think that

04:15:06.620 a lot of people get bent out of shape trying to force square pegs into round holes because

04:15:13.580 no heimdall can't do that owen has to do that because owen is the runes and owen is only the

04:15:18.540 runes and the runes are only owen and it it really kind of just shows uh the inability to see how

04:15:28.380 things work when we talk about multiplicity you know we do we talk about the finite of one leader

04:15:34.780 but there's the others around that also influence and incorporate and inspire and that's how nature

04:15:41.740 works and that's how the gods work and so i think heimdall is fulfilling his purpose by teaching

04:15:48.540 the runes because odin fulfilled his purpose of finding the runes and teaching it to the gods

04:15:54.700 boom boom boom it's my best explanation for that i think that's as close to perfect as we're going

04:16:02.220 to get i don't really think there's anything i can add to that i think that says it all um

04:16:09.340 next up over on entropy uh question for matt and svan what are your thoughts on hunting implements

04:16:16.140 being blessed before the hunting season say during a bloat to uler i'm all for that that's something

04:16:23.980 yeah that's something that we do that's that's a holiday yeah that's what we do

04:16:30.620 at uh winter finding um that's what uh i did at a winter finding

04:16:45.260 i say winter finding 2009 um before i got my first moose that was very effective it was

04:16:55.420 served very well i've told the story before but i was out um the junior member of a really

04:17:03.260 accomplished hunting party we were out trying to get a moose last day sun was going down you can't

04:17:10.380 hunt by a artificial light there and so sun was going down um very last day we had no success

04:17:19.980 last day of the season. And we were looking with a scope to look for potential moose coming down

04:17:28.500 from the mountains because we're in this valley. One was coming down. They put me in the most

04:17:33.560 ridiculous spot. I was feverish with the swine flu and half out of my mind. They're like, hey, 0.98

04:17:43.540 just sit here, whatever. We'll post you here and we'll go take all the real spots.

04:17:49.980 Um, again, I'm half delirious, but I'm, I'm waiting for that moose. I'm looking up the hill.

04:17:57.460 Um, and I hear this grunting sound behind me and I keep looking up the hill. I'm not

04:18:04.480 in my right mind. So I hear the grunts again. Again, I don't see where it's coming from.

04:18:10.980 I'm looking up the hill. Finally, I hear the grunts a third time and some rustling the trees

04:18:16.480 and I turn around, the moose is behind me, and it's, you know, maybe 15 feet away from me.

04:18:28.060 And it looks at me, it turns broadside and stands there.

04:18:35.540 and so you know eventually finally coming to my senses I shot it and we got our moose and

04:18:47.600 you know I was the hero of the day getting the moose for the hunting party and still got the

04:18:54.140 the antlers downstairs but none of that story is about how what an awesome hunter I am all of that

04:19:00.500 story is about how uler blessed me because we did do that blessing and we did make that the focus

04:19:07.280 of our winner finding globe and that was really special and still something that's always going

04:19:13.420 to stand out to me uh i wanted to say you know uh the understanding of the word like of bidding

04:19:22.480 or beda and give the gifting when we ask if you if you are to ask the gods for for boon and benefit

04:19:32.160 you're you're bidding them to give you those blessings so as a as a practitioner of asa true

04:19:37.320 you could ask the gods to give you that blessing it's always about kind of compounding things as

04:19:43.760 well, if you, the gifting cycle is held up by, by Godar. So if you can go to winter finding

04:19:51.940 and you can ask the Godar who have been giving gifts to the gods for a long time, as long as

04:19:59.360 they've been a Godar, but also part of the Auschwitz focus assembly, which has been giving that gift

04:20:04.880 cycle for a very long time. So they're connect their weirdest connected to it. So you can ask

04:20:10.660 for the gifting of the boon through a godar who has built that gifting cycle and then you can also

04:20:18.020 take that gifting and add the bidding of yourself to the god to to give you the blessing and the

04:20:24.020 boon i think that's an important thing to to note is that um when you know if you have the ability

04:20:30.100 to ask the gifting from the gothar and their purpose in the whole cycle of it all if you ask

04:20:36.660 for the bidding from the the gods themselves too and if you're blessed in that situation

04:20:42.020 right there is like kind of a boon situation that builds might with your relationship with the gods

04:20:47.620 so i have always taken it really important to ask for the through gifting by going through the gothar

04:20:56.340 or you know and and blessing the the tools and implements and then uh bidding the the god to

04:21:05.700 to uh help you and then implementing the hunt and um but yeah that is winter finding that is

04:21:11.940 the absolute um thing also you know blessing your your your weapons of self-defense um as

04:21:19.620 ulur is also the we pray to him for that as well but yeah that's uh you should come to winter

04:21:27.060 finding get the gifting and then get the bidding and then go hunt that's uh that's all i can say to

04:21:33.380 that so you know just thinking on stuff tonight and

04:21:47.620 kind of random but we've also had a couple of a couple of mentions in the chat about some

04:21:54.820 some different mental illness and mental struggles something i want to put out there is

04:21:59.860 if anybody's going through anything or ever needs to talk on stuff that's something else

04:22:07.460 the gotha are here for you know spawn mentioned going to them to

04:22:14.500 facilitate the gift cycle which is absolutely correct but another thing

04:22:20.580 go to them to talk if you're having a problem any of us that is

04:22:25.220 is, you know, one of our most to the forefront duties and things that we all want to be here to do

04:22:34.980 is to be able to help our people through hard times. So if anybody is having a struggle,

04:22:40.920 if anybody is, you know, got something going on that they need to talk to somebody about,

04:22:48.900 doesn't have to be a big stress, doesn't have to be a big deal. You've got a whole group of

04:22:54.400 people here whose job it is to help our folk be mentally, spiritually, and physically healthy.

04:23:05.900 We are a holistic faith that all of those things are connected, and we would all be very,

04:23:13.500 very happy to talk to anybody who's going through anything. And I think it's never a bad time to

04:23:19.360 point that out or put that out there, but, um, producer Nick put up a gothar at runestone.org.

04:23:25.800 We would be really, really happy to have conversation with anybody that, that needs to

04:23:32.460 and help when we can. Um, and I think that's always worth, it's always worth a try. Um,

04:23:39.820 but yeah, I know that we would all love to talk to our folk. We, you know, we'd love to talk to

04:23:44.420 them during the good times, but we also are absolutely here to talk to them during the

04:23:48.500 rough times. That's what we signed up for. Next. Are there guidelines for dealing with people who

04:24:01.920 try to destroy your life because you were interested in preserving your people's native

04:24:07.560 beliefs. I think all of that is so very, very situational. Destroy your life, how? It depends

04:24:20.780 what they're doing. It depends on a lot of things. There are evil forces out there. There are also

04:24:31.060 people who are just a very low character and are just dirtbags that try to bring you down

04:24:38.380 and try to bring anyone down that's being successful. One of the biggest things that

04:24:43.900 we deal with amongst our own people all the time is this crab in the bucket thing.

04:24:49.700 Unhappy people want everybody else to be unhappy too. Unsuccessful people want everyone else to be

04:24:56.540 unsuccessful too. And so they try to bring you down when you find something that does speak to

04:25:02.640 your soul. If you find something that is bringing you success, every time people start having good

04:25:10.960 things in their life, those crabs come out to try to pull you back down in the bucket so

04:25:15.800 nobody can get out and get on to something better. And I think being aware of that is really important.

04:25:22.100 um as far as guidelines again i don't i don't know what that means without more context

04:25:35.120 um certainly if somebody's doing something illegal to you in order to destroy your life

04:25:41.200 i would encourage you to you know seek seek some legal advice on that um if you're an afa member

04:25:49.360 and why wouldn't you be? I would encourage that you reach out to our law speaker or

04:25:56.480 we have a folk builder in Florida, Otto Refuse, who's also an attorney, as well as our law

04:26:06.800 speaker, Alan Ternage, who's an attorney. They give you some advice if it's a legal question.

04:26:12.400 Other than that, I think one of the best things that you can do to thwart people that are trying

04:26:19.060 to bring you down and cause you harm reputation wise, is continue to be successful. When you,

04:26:28.280 if you divert your attention away from the things that are bringing you happiness and success

04:26:38.480 to get down and roll around in the mud with whoever's trying to make you look bad or cause

04:26:43.820 a problem they've effectively stopped your progress at least for the moment when you

04:26:51.740 brush them aside and continue to succeed despite their best efforts i think that's

04:26:59.740 and i know that it sounds you know lifetime movie after school special kind of advice but i think

04:27:08.300 that it really is true the more that you don't allow them that space in your head and the more

04:27:15.900 that you dwarf them by your success or by the good things you have in your life by our faith

04:27:24.540 i think that is the most potent way to deal with that situation and i think it's the way

04:27:30.460 that you come out the best in the end svan do you have any any thoughts to that question

04:27:38.300 Yeah, I think you hit everything there. I would just say, I mean, yeah, defense, if your life is threatened, legal defense, if you're, you know, being pursued in ways that are, you know, trying to, you know, monetarily and things like that.

04:27:54.280 but i think it's really important what what was kind of uh let out in question was um that i think

04:28:01.640 a lot of people lose sight of the fact that this is our ethnic faith we're allowed to honor the

04:28:08.280 gods of our people these gods were honored by a people and those people looked and acted and spoke

04:28:14.200 a certain way and um you know you could leave politics aside and you could also you know

04:28:21.320 understand that there are other people in the world you there there are other types of people

04:28:27.000 and you are a type of people you have every right to be just as much as them so in you know once you

04:28:34.440 kind of lose sight of that and you get kind of caught up in the in the muck of it of this you

04:28:40.520 know pointing fingers and uh people trying to say you're this and you're that as soon as you lose

04:28:46.040 side of that then you you kind of lose the pure root of what you're doing which is you know

04:28:53.640 honoring the gods of your people there's no one who can say or do anything that is wrong

04:28:59.880 outside of that you know they can try to ruin your life in multiple ways um and you know you

04:29:06.920 should take accordance to that but succeed and you will you know absolutely uh drive them insane

04:29:14.360 You know, if you have the ability to, you know, be autonomous and be wealthy, successful, disciplined, clean, and of good health, and with, you know, a happy family and all is well, whatever terms in which you stated, you know, trying to ruin your life, they can't at that point.

04:29:41.380 i mean i you know unless they're extremely terrible which a lot of people are these days

04:29:47.860 there are some extremely terrible people but again you can't live your life you know hunkered

04:29:52.580 down in the bunker um thinking about the absolute worst you gotta you gotta live in the sun so um

04:30:01.300 yeah you you hit it all right there i'm just adding on to that someone else i see over in

04:30:08.020 the chat as reference to odin being the mad god in reference to mental illness and um i just want

04:30:16.820 to state that there's something worthwhile to think of on that because we do think of

04:30:24.100 of odin in terms of fury and ecstasy and altered mental state but odin is the master of the woke

04:30:35.140 he is the master of inspiration he is the master of the fury he is not mastered by the fury and

04:30:43.860 that's important the fact that he has his wolves and he has them at bay and he has them tamed as

04:30:53.780 pets that sit on either side of his throne shows that he can master the primal and the crazy he is

04:31:01.700 able to bring chaos to order and i think that's a real fundamental that people often don't think

04:31:11.060 of when they talk about you know him being the god of fury certainly he is but he can channel

04:31:17.620 and control that because he has achieved that level of mastery he is the master of the load

04:31:23.140 what's up next uh in the removal of runes do you know of a correct way or unharmful way to do so

04:31:38.440 kind of like a safe way to unload a weapon it's fun you got thoughts on that yes um again that's

04:31:45.940 why the median in which you carve the runes is very important to consider in relation to the

04:31:52.300 the usage of the rune another thing to consider sometimes people will carve runes on things and

04:31:57.260 perhaps bury them and then realize that the the things that were set in motion may not have been

04:32:03.020 very good to do but then they can't find the place they buried it or they can't find the medium in

04:32:09.500 which they already set things into motion so it's it's a great consideration before you the what is

04:32:16.940 it the the term is uh uh runa rot runa restaurant right runes must be written right and that means

04:32:28.220 you must take into all considerations everything you're doing before you start the whole process

04:32:34.300 to begin with because deed is important forethought is the boon of the gods before deed um so have

04:32:41.660 that forethought but um if you are let's say doing something let's say you you you do something for

04:32:48.780 a moment when i was talking about the uh the tooth the the tangur the um if you make a tine

04:32:56.300 and you you do a rune on it and it's time is over and everything is good the best thing to do is to

04:33:01.420 place a blade upon it shave it off into a fire break the medium and then place that into the fire

04:33:09.980 is often the way that I have always gotten rid of runes in relation to that say that their time

04:33:17.580 is over. And understanding sometimes when things are completed, they must be put to an end. It's

04:33:24.180 good to have an ending to things as well. It's bad to initiate deeds and push things out into

04:33:30.240 the world and have no way to close them down. I think people are oftentimes too fatalistically

04:33:36.280 driven by their emotions so they initiate their oath with the world by creating a rune

04:33:44.120 and implementing that into the world without ever considering that there might be an end

04:33:48.840 or a moment where it's finally concluded and that's okay so think about things before you

04:33:55.640 uh you know writ them down and bless them in the blood and sing their songs

04:34:02.520 take consideration all the way from beginning to end.

04:34:10.200 All right.

04:34:19.080 I don't have much to add on that other than everything has to do with intention.

04:34:23.560 Be very intentional and thought out in what you do, and I think that'll be your best guide.

04:34:28.920 One thing that I know from experience that I felt when I was first getting started is a respectful reluctance to do things because I didn't want to do something wrong.

04:34:46.740 So I would have, you know, paralysis by analysis on that and contemplate, you know, all the ways I could do something wrong and didn't want to mess it up.

04:34:55.600 But honestly, I think. Go in with good intentions, what you do, as long as it's intentional and thought out, I think that that won't lead you astray.

04:35:15.060 Again, it's not a science project, so it's not like if you don't do the perfect thing, everything's going to blow up in your face or whatever.

04:35:23.680 I think the forces that govern this universe are sentient.

04:35:30.280 I think our gods are looking on when we use the runes,

04:35:34.200 especially if we invoke them when we use them.

04:35:38.400 And I think that they are able to, you know,

04:35:42.800 act based on the energy you're putting out. 0.99

04:35:47.540 If you're being a jerk and you're strutting around like you're cocky on whatever, 0.99

04:35:51.320 then they probably don't have your back. 0.99

04:35:53.680 If you are trying to do the right thing and you're being respectful, then even if it's not perfect, you had the right intention.

04:36:02.380 And I think that that counts for a lot in this world and all others.

04:36:11.360 I just saw something and I wanted to bring it up.

04:36:14.320 There was a question that was laid down a long time ago, and I think we missed it.

04:36:19.780 And it's a translation question.

04:36:22.220 That's why it caught my eye.

04:36:24.400 um by obsidian skull at a back at like 11 30. no it's still it's still on here it's just it's just

04:36:34.000 way um yeah was it the one about our air blast with fast yeah our air blah yes

04:36:50.240 no it's still on the list we'll get to that here we are

04:36:58.080 that's four questions away let's just ask nick so yeah we're backlogged that's why good on the

04:37:05.120 folks that wanted to go into the super chat because i got them up there quick um are you

04:37:12.480 familiar with the book of runes by ralph bloom if so do you have an opinion on it it's fun

04:37:20.240 yes uh oh wow that's i mean if any everybody that especially started getting into the runes

04:37:32.400 in the 80s late 70s 80s or was it late 70s maybe it was just 80s uh and 90s the uh the box set

04:37:40.240 book with gold letters and the the uh the runes inside it um ralph bloom yeah ralph bloom's book

04:37:51.400 i think is it gets wilder every time i read it it gets crazier and just like wow this guy

04:38:00.220 is just totally on his own thing um in one sense it's completely his interpretation

04:38:09.340 every once in a while he strikes something that's interesting to think about

04:38:14.540 but the other thing is just a lot of his blatant disregard for like

04:38:19.400 rune lore at the time or like the cumulative rune lore and it's a perfect example i think

04:38:26.880 ralph bloom and ed fitch versus nigel pennock and edward thorson or dr flowers is a perfect

04:38:35.300 example why anybody that like scoffs at edward thorson or nigel pennock is probably somebody

04:38:42.260 who graduated in like 2010 and is like a little kid comparatively because for us in the 80s and 0.80

04:38:50.340 90s and now it's true uh any runic knowledge of that level you had some absolute garbage

04:39:00.100 mixed in with these diamonds in the rough and edward thorson and nigel pennock are exact examples

04:39:08.900 of that versus the ilk of ralph bloom um he's the one that created the blank room

04:39:16.500 and um or what we call the uh in case you lost one rune um but the uh yeah reading his stuff

04:39:26.420 every time i read it i own i own it it it was not the inspiration like it has been for a lot of

04:39:32.100 people a lot of people got inspired by that book then they go and find another book and then they

04:39:36.740 realize okay wow it's kind of weird so they just push that off and hold it off as like a memorabilia

04:39:42.740 book but that was not the case for me but i have it just so i can go back and read it and be like

04:39:48.500 man that's that is some wild stuff and he mixed christianity with

04:39:55.060 olvin and the runes he was just kind of all over the place

04:40:03.060 so i've never read bloom's book i have read fitch's um 0.95

04:40:11.540 the reputation preceded it that it's just nonsense and ridiculous and he is the the

04:40:17.620 father of the the blank rune which is silly but swan's idea is really good that is a good option

04:40:25.620 for you know if you lose one and you need to to make a replacement i think that's that sound um

04:40:34.180 solid plan yeah no that makes sense uh oh interesting story i had

04:40:42.340 i lost two of my runes and they'd been with me for forever and i

04:40:47.620 I lost them and I didn't have them and I, I couldn't figure out what happened to them.

04:40:51.760 And so I made, I did not, I asked, um, one of our members to help me and he made two

04:40:59.520 of them for me.

04:41:00.180 And I ended up, uh, letting these and trying to match them to my set.

04:41:04.180 I used, I had them and it turns out that, you know, they turned up.

04:41:11.120 I don't remember when I noticed them lost, but I found them in February at Charming of the Plow

04:41:25.880 at Njordshof. They were in the office at Njordshof. So I don't know if I sent them down there

04:41:32.360 at the dedication or just what, but I got my runes back, but it came up because I was saying

04:41:41.660 you know if you needed an extra because i found myself needing an extra um but no it was kind of

04:41:48.220 kind of special that they all turned back that they turned back up when i needed them i don't

04:41:53.580 recall taking them out there um but i was just you know looking on the shelf and there they were

04:41:58.620 sitting there so not really sure why that was but i'll i'll take it and be happy about it

04:42:05.820 um next question is julius evola related to alsatru in any way

04:42:13.020 yes but the way requires a little bit of explanation

04:42:18.540 um

04:42:19.640 I don't agree with everything that evola says or everything he's come up with but

04:42:28.140 I'm a big fan and I've read everything I can find of his that's been translated into English

04:42:35.820 His relation is that he recognizes tradition versus not. And his idea of tradition with a big T is a school of thought that united civilization up until relatively recently, I'd say up until the French Revolution and past, there is a way that civilization worked.

04:43:04.880 Now, most of that, and again, he goes a little bit further afield than we would in Asatru with China, with Japan, and with some other things.

04:43:13.840 But there was a way the world functioned the way it was supposed to, and that was the world of tradition.

04:43:20.820 And a lot of those traditional ideas were deliberately and specifically rejected and supplanted in various social upheaval movements from, you know, the Enlightenment to, quote unquote, Enlightenment till today.

04:43:44.540 I say until today and continuing today.

04:43:48.880 But his idea of hearkening back to a traditional way of worship, way of interaction, way of functioning socially is very appealing and very relevant to Alcetru as we try to continue to grow it and build it in a modern context where so much of the West is completely non-traditional and intentionally so.

04:44:16.360 So when we talk about the culture war that we are very, very much engaged in, it's a war between traditionalism and, you know, wokeness.

04:44:27.400 And wokeness probably looked different in the 1700s than it looks now, but it was all leading to this crazy situation we find ourselves in.

04:44:36.380 Evola spoke about that very eloquently. And one of the things that is also related to Alcetru was he would reference our lore in a lot of his books. He would certainly add and make reference and point out the very obvious comparisons between different branches of Arian religiosity.

04:44:59.160 um and that's really important as a matter of fact we include some of his material in our

04:45:07.400 gothar training so in that way he's he's absolutely relevant to that and the book i

04:45:13.220 mentioned earlier introduction to magic on sigil magic was put out by by evola and it was part of

04:45:21.740 his group of magical associates at the time the ur group that he was a part of the article wasn't

04:45:29.900 a braxus wasn't him who wrote the article that i talked about but that book is is his group and his

04:45:35.900 guys next question happy birthday matt how does it feel being 25 well i've i've been 25 for 17 years

04:45:50.700 now. I'm getting good at it. It feels pretty good. I appreciate that. What can you say about

04:45:59.580 Mimir and any correlation on the runes? Svan, what do you have to say about Mimir and any

04:46:07.220 correlation he might have to the runes? Well, I think to my knowledge right now off the top of

04:46:15.500 my head i cannot think of any distinctness except it is worth noting when uh when you said in the

04:46:23.240 runatal with odin he said he learned his mysteries from uh bolthorn bolthorn is besla's father which

04:46:32.760 would make that his grandfather the primordial bolthorn who uh you know is a generation of emir

04:46:39.860 or I mean of

04:46:42.380 of Beryelmer

04:46:43.780 so Beryelmer is the source for Mimir

04:46:46.520 and then Balthorn is from that

04:46:48.680 that original time

04:46:50.300 and he bears

04:46:54.760 Besla and Besla is

04:46:56.660 you know

04:46:58.260 Vodin's mother

04:46:59.200 and Mimir is again of that same lineage

04:47:02.400 so the idea of the ancient

04:47:04.700 primordial wisdom

04:47:06.320 of

04:47:06.640 of the even before the gods as formulation stem from that time and mimir has that

04:47:15.040 mimir is then of course i expounded on the fact that there is a locked mode of of knowledge that

04:47:23.680 was unattainable to the gods and then in the loss of mimir his head is placed on that mode of

04:47:30.960 information and made animate and then is in essence the lock it's kind of like having a

04:47:40.320 door with no lock and no no handle and you make the handle place it on the door and then have the

04:47:46.960 key to open that door that was originally unaccessible um so he you know again leading

04:47:56.080 to the knowledge of the the runes timeline wise we don't know if the the the sacrifice

04:48:02.000 of odin on yggdrasil was before or after the sacrifice of his eye there's a lot of

04:48:08.080 people speculate like a timeline but um you know the direct connection is i think that

04:48:17.120 when you see the primordial creation of the runes from the beginning and then you also see where

04:48:22.960 time flows into that well that goes to the next the lower the level away from time you kind of

04:48:30.160 get a it's almost like a sandwiching effect uh ovin sees where time is sourced and where time

04:48:36.880 ends or kind of drains down so a beginning source and an end source through the runes and through

04:48:44.160 um i think that's where we that's where the weaving of weird is made from he he looks down

04:48:52.240 into the darkness of the well of earth hanging from igdrasil when he is in heaven and that's

04:48:59.280 where time sources and flows into the middle world and then he places mimir at the end of time

04:49:05.920 and so thus he encapsulates it and and that uh if time and we're talking about time not in the

04:49:12.960 sense of like a clock but as in all things re acting we're reacting and deeds we're talking

04:49:19.200 about weird and we're talking about orla and so the runes are kind of the the flow in which all

04:49:28.080 things kind of vibrate together all the frequency all the vibrations of action kind of intertwining

04:49:34.960 intertwine on the the basin or the the trough of uh of um like the sounds that make all things it's

04:49:46.640 It's where all things are supported and structured from.

04:49:50.400 So a very, very loose connection is I think that there's a purpose as to why Mimir is at the end of time.

04:49:57.940 It's because he placed him there in order to understand both the origins of all things and the results of all things.

04:50:08.160 And what's in between them is the runes, the structuring frequencies between the two.

04:50:13.780 But lore-wise, there's nothing that I think that I recall where Mimir is directly connected to the runes.

04:50:22.260 There may be something, but I can't think of it right now off the top of my head.

04:50:29.300 All right.

04:50:35.580 Question for Matt.

04:50:38.000 Happy birthday.

04:50:39.440 Taking into account the old Swedish rune poems.

04:50:42.220 this would be the year of our uh which is pronounced which prophesies our air blath

04:50:51.260 the year overflows with leaves what does that say for you

04:50:59.980 um first i'm gonna go to the experts here is that how that translates

04:51:06.220 is there any note to the translation i should know before i answer the question

04:51:10.380 are you talking to me okay iceland's own swan harold is there some maybe there's somebody else

04:51:22.020 like i i didn't immediately no uh it trans our is a season i would also it can translate to year

04:51:31.260 year and season are interchangeable um and yeah it's uh let me see where i'm let me find it real

04:51:39.100 quick second yeah out and so air is is you know basically stating that the blades are wide uh what

04:51:52.320 it means is like the blade like a blade of grass it's referring to what we would uh what is the

04:51:58.660 top of a wheat called the the little cluster of grain uh i know that we use the word corn too

04:52:06.300 it's a germanic word uh the corns the but it means like the the blades or the stalks of grass

04:52:13.100 or the stalks of wheat are wide so what this really is kind of poetically saying is imagine

04:52:21.900 yourself standing in a wheat field as far as the eye can see with with the blades of grass or the

04:52:29.900 blades of wheat kind of like are vast and and overflow if you will i mean i'm i'm gonna take

04:52:41.820 the win when i see it um i could try to come up with something different but it seems very obviously

04:52:49.900 positive and overflowing with abundance and reaping a bountiful harvest and

04:52:55.740 i'm i'm gonna take that that sounds that sounds pretty good to me and outward is always viewed

04:53:03.240 positively it's interesting because the rune itself in the younger and we could definitely

04:53:08.020 cover this is um the word is yara or the rune is yara and um in uh icelandic the j is dropped

04:53:16.860 as it's seen as not necessary with the and then it just becomes instead of yara it's just the j

04:53:24.320 is dropped and now it's our but it could be yower if you think about it it it's just they drop the j

04:53:32.320 um it's all it's the rune era and it's always about cycles and harvest and bounty it's never

04:53:39.040 ever seen in correlation to kind of like a foul thing it's it's a it's a beautiful thing and the

04:53:45.760 symbol in the in the younger futhark versus the like the elder uh it was really interesting the

04:53:52.080 younger futhark has noffies going it's vertical with its arms like descending high to low from

04:54:00.640 left to right and out is reversed and that was kind of the time i think where our ancestors

04:54:06.480 were starting to play with this the symbology of like mirror imaging and the idea that there's like

04:54:12.160 constraint and then there's release or there's work and toil need all work is based on need

04:54:19.920 and and toil is based on need and then there is the reward the harvest so something worth noting

04:54:27.600 there too i would have always seen as like celebration of the big wide fields as far

04:54:33.680 as the eye can see blades shimmering in the sun i will take it um

04:54:42.160 we talk a lot on drawing the runes for answers however is there a practice of searching out

04:54:50.160 a rune in order to focus on your relationship with the gods or goddesses almost trying to build

04:54:56.560 a relation um closest thing i can think of that i know a lot of people do is they'll just do a

04:55:08.640 rune pull without a lot of fancy other stuff they will you know perhaps in the morning a rune to

04:55:16.640 focus on during the day i think the same could apply to a rune to focus on on stuff you need

04:55:25.200 to work on in your life or things that you could do that would better help your connection with

04:55:30.000 our gods and i think something as simple as that maybe saying a prayer with your intention before

04:55:36.880 you did the rune draw and then drawing a singular rune from that i think that would be a good

04:55:45.280 method to do that to internalize that and help build that connection what do you think swan

04:55:53.520 yeah i um i think this is a uh exactly what you said and i think i'm just going to add in that you

04:56:00.320 could do an exercise that's pretty interesting if you take one of the house or the our senior

04:56:09.280 or the austrian of our folk and just choose one maybe even one that you're not have a huge

04:56:18.480 familiar relation familiar relationship with and think about that divine being and then pull a rune

04:56:26.080 and see how you can connect that uh the meaning of the rune to the divine being like a perfect

04:56:36.720 example would be like and i'm just thinking randomly think of like uh snotra the ausenia

04:56:43.040 of of of social social more that she is the she is the goddess of of um what we call that our

04:56:52.160 cultural morals and let's say you pick randomly the rune dagas because i mentioned it before i

04:56:58.800 don't know why it just hit me again you could think of perhaps one of the you think of dagas

04:57:05.360 and dagas is about darkness turning to light things being exposed the transitional states

04:57:11.520 so in relation to snotra one of the things i would say is uh our social more is about being honest

04:57:19.440 and being uh clear and non-deceptive so perhaps that rune in correlation to snotra is about the

04:57:26.160 importance of finding truth and keeping uh the moral obligation of of corrective action and

04:57:35.440 speech in the light never never you know reducing yourself to subterfuge amongst your folk and

04:57:41.440 amongst your people that would be just one way to connect it building those things and creating

04:57:48.080 connective tissues is one of the best ways you can train your brain to see how the gods

04:57:53.520 work with their kind of leveraging messaging systems of signs and inclinations and words you

04:58:01.520 hear everything's kind of all interwoven um and so the the more of your ability to kind of make

04:58:08.240 connected things where there aren't connections or at least not perceived right away connections

04:58:13.440 is a great way to both learn the gods and the runes at the same time so

04:58:22.800 just a good exercise

04:58:34.880 so

04:58:43.440 did we lose it or we some of these no we're doing good i'm just finding

04:58:54.720 where we're at all right

04:58:59.520 okay here we are do you think that the negative press has helped the afa

04:59:06.560 and the growth of the church i don't think that i know that

04:59:13.440 in lots and lots of ways. So, I mean, yes, I'm trying to think there's infinite other things

04:59:25.760 I can say about this, but when sources outside of our circles want to draw attention to us to

04:59:36.740 say negative things. It does several things. First, there is a whole lot of people out there

04:59:44.820 in this world and in the United States specifically that have, that are naturally

04:59:51.100 inclined to want to come home to their faith, which is also true and just don't know it's a thing.

04:59:57.240 They do after they watch, you know, negative press on us. There's a whole lot of, and one of the other

05:00:04.760 things. The divide in this country and in the West is much bigger than it's been previous

05:00:11.640 between traditionally minded people and the woke folk. And the middle ground is given away a lot.

05:00:24.000 So a lot of people immediately don't believe what the negative press wants to say about us

05:00:31.060 because they don't trust them but they're like man if these people are harping on them so bad

05:00:35.700 they must be pretty good and then they take a look at us and then they apply it has literally brought

05:00:41.540 us hundreds of members um the other thing when normal people who are stuck in the middle or who

05:00:51.620 might even be you know inclined to believe the press hear them and their unhinged criticism of

05:01:02.580 us which is not fair um when they see that and they look into it and then they see that the

05:01:12.260 press is lying to them it forms something in their head that they don't trust that that news outlet

05:01:18.500 anymore and some of those people who were initially against us because of what the press said

05:01:24.820 and actually checked us out and looked into it those people have also joined us

05:01:32.500 because they learned about us and built relationships with us by trying to explore

05:01:37.220 what the negative press had said about us so fake news has brought us quite a bit of members

05:01:48.500 what else do we got

05:01:51.780 also a huge amount of understanding too i think uh getting the the emails and the letters from

05:02:01.000 from folks that are like i'm not with i'm not like i'm not you guys but i totally see that

05:02:08.040 you have every right to do that and it's like coming from like all kinds of people yes i have

05:02:14.080 been very positively surprised about that um where we get some of the support we get it comes from

05:02:21.860 the least likely of sources and i i'm very thankful of that uh old black church ladies often

05:02:28.640 yeah they're a big a big source of support i i remember receiving a series of emails like that

05:02:36.440 i was like this is surprisingly cool yeah i really appreciate going there um

05:02:52.840 so the next question what do you think of the rune guild svan what do you think of the rune guild

05:02:59.800 uh so strangely i i well one i think that you have uh far more of an inclination to

05:03:07.000 better illuminate this question uh i was taught by someone so i never really pursued it i think

05:03:14.920 it is a uh a really amazing thing i think that uh for a school built around the esoteric knowledge

05:03:23.960 that um for people who don't know uh we've already referenced uh edward thorson's uh dr

05:03:31.720 stephen flowers and his um room guild or wood harrow institute um he built a kind of uh a

05:03:41.320 a curriculum that you could you know join if you were accepted um and then could kind of work

05:03:49.480 further on i don't know beyond that because i was never accepted that was never i never uh really

05:03:55.800 went into it but you know i imagine that they're doing good works i don't know beyond like what

05:04:02.120 kind of publications they may have moved into and i think it's esoteric knowledge that would

05:04:05.880 be interesting if i could have a glimpse but in learning from my teacher i have formulated a bias

05:04:13.720 of my own tradition and and that tradition was is very very structured so at this at this point

05:04:21.560 it's kind of like i'm already kind of set in the grain the blood has already been set and the

05:04:27.240 galler has already been sung so um i i think they're great i would love to see if they had

05:04:32.760 more publications or essays or maybe i'm just ignorant as to a place where those things are

05:04:38.520 um or maybe they hoard it they hoard that esoteric knowledge and that's an interesting

05:04:43.320 and intriguing thing but beyond that i i know very little and uh don't have a really negative

05:04:49.640 thought towards them at all okay so um i do and i don't want to um

05:05:03.240 i think that there are people within the rune guild that are great and that know a lot of things

05:05:09.320 and that are experts and then i think there are a lot of basement wizards that

05:05:16.600 are completely useless at a lot of things and uh instead of

05:05:26.600 focusing on the cake they want to focus on the frosting and i don't find those people to be

05:05:31.800 very successful um one person who was involved in the rune guild kind of on the side made the

05:05:41.240 comment to a friend of mine who was looking into it that you know go to one of these rune guild moots

05:05:46.760 and uh it's a room full of of exalted rune maguses that can't conjure themselves up a girlfriend

05:05:56.440 so there are some phds and some authors in the room guild that are absolutely amazing

05:06:04.520 and then there is the rest of the pyramid which is delusional basement wizards

05:06:12.120 that don't want to actually participate in life

05:06:17.080 and that's kind of more scathing than i meant it to be but i stand by it and i think it's true

05:06:25.480 Um, I mean, it's kind of like what we were talking about. There's brilliant minds that

05:06:30.840 have attributed to things, especially in relation to like people like Bloom and Fitch where

05:06:36.280 they're just like, ah, but there's also people that are so like, uh, I don't even know, like

05:06:41.860 so focused heavily that they don't live a dutiful life. They don't live a life with

05:06:49.640 the gods and with their folk and with they just get so tunnel visioned into one thing that it

05:06:56.700 becomes almost like they're overwise they're they're not middle wise or even just healthily

05:07:02.680 wise they're just they're beyond uh you know you know you you are nicer than i am i don't think

05:07:12.700 that they're overwise i don't think they're wise at all because i think wisdom implies context

05:07:18.160 i think they are very well read and i will i will leave it there but i think wisdom is

05:07:24.740 is grossly lacking um all right as is prowess with the ladies

05:07:31.400 so i'll just i'll just leave that there um

05:07:43.200 matt and svan thoughts on the rune thorough says uh i've considered carving it into an axe i use

05:07:55.840 as a tool more than a weapon svan what are your thoughts on thorough says

05:08:01.840 oh well i mean right out the gate the rune poems that are associated with

05:08:10.100 Thurzaz. So Thurzaz is the reconstructed name of the TH rune, the rune, and that rune is

05:08:23.440 very well known. And first and foremost, its connection is to resistant forces, chaotic

05:08:33.600 forces and chthonic forces it's always mentioned as thus except in one poem in the anglo-saxon

05:08:40.640 where it's referred to as the thorn but even then it's given with great warning um

05:08:49.840 now later on and there has been some additions to where there's been uh some connections to

05:08:54.800 protection and of course connections to uh lord thor thor thor is much like the fighting fire

05:09:04.640 with fire you fight thurses with thor because thor can crush um it's that that viola uh the

05:09:13.280 violence but get to violence um the warrior who is uh you know nowadays in this day and age you

05:09:20.640 know they try to say like oh the the hero's actually the bad guy and the bad guy's just

05:09:25.440 misunderstood no the hero has to be very close if not mirroring the very thing he's fighting sometimes

05:09:37.520 and without the ability for us to attain that level of understanding we're never going to be

05:09:42.080 able to defeat the opposition of things that's that that mirroring effect thurs does represent

05:09:49.440 that uh it is you know it is the the the catalystic breaking rune um so if as i was earlier ago he was

05:10:02.800 talking about with your intent i think the biggest thing is to formulate the reasoning why if you're

05:10:09.120 thinking that this is a catalystic rune that talks about the severing the breaking and the unbinding

05:10:16.080 of things um you could then apply it to this axe with the intent of it aiding in its chop

05:10:24.640 to fell the tree uh the trees that you need um but be careful because this is a dangerous

05:10:33.280 room too and and oftentimes thorns are indiscriminate they do not care who sits amongst

05:10:38.960 them they they they dispense pain equally um so it's of great consideration that when you think

05:10:50.000 of this um this rune now this rune has also been used if we know this and it has been speculated

05:10:56.640 as to how but in uh skernesmo when skirner goes from phrase hall to gerth and he tries to woo her

05:11:09.680 uh in in in relation to his lord he's trying to tell gareth that is to to align with his lord um

05:11:19.520 and again there's a lot of metaphysical stuff there about the idea of the of the sky and the

05:11:23.760 earth and the ray of light between that creates that alignment but interesting thing in this

05:11:29.440 story is that he says that he will curse her with three thirst runes i will curse thee i will carve

05:11:36.480 them upon you and then he lists a litany of terrible things so one of the things that's

05:11:42.720 really interesting about that part of the story is the three thirst rune is something that if it's

05:11:48.960 being spoken about in the story culturally has significance to the audience so the audience knows

05:11:56.240 you know otherwise it would have no gravity so that lends one that the the audience of the

05:12:02.240 people that are listening to the poetry have a semblance and understanding of the runes that's

05:12:07.920 interesting in and of itself when people say like oh runes don't have to be a part of like

05:12:11.920 religious ceremonies or what have you in the story when they says the three thirst runes

05:12:17.840 that wouldn't be said for no effect the audience would understand oh this is going to get serious

05:12:24.880 and then the litany thereafter explains how serious this is going to get so thurza's is a

05:12:30.240 dangerous room i've always considered it to be uh one that is not to be trifled with it's not

05:12:39.040 one to be just led about very um you know absent-mindedly uh but again it is built around

05:12:48.720 your intent if your intent is to see this axe as a catalyst of felling wood that is that you need

05:12:55.040 especially in relation to maybe uh if you need if you're using like stoves for warmth and things

05:13:01.200 like that it might be of great importance remember i always say the runes are based on need and that

05:13:07.200 significance of your intent should first be rooted in the need of it if it is needed

05:13:13.600 desperately i would say then using a rune but if it's not if you're just trying to put it on

05:13:18.320 the axe to make it look cool or feel cool um then it really comes down to you know my belief of

05:13:26.720 whether or not you do the full formula correctly but still it's not something to be trifled with

05:13:32.400 the runes are based on utilizing for need so on that level utilizing any room should be based on

05:13:42.480 a need with the intent and and then you move forward to to to manifest that in weird if there

05:13:50.080 isn't a great need and you're doing it i would advise against that don't don't do that maybe

05:13:56.720 write your name in runic and not really focus on a kind of a magical implementation

05:14:03.840 the other thought just by and by is that thurizaz my belief is that it is a very dangerous rune to

05:14:12.000 play with um it should be used with great sense of need because it can be both it can liberate

05:14:19.680 and break barriers but it can also decimate and and also leave very little in its wake

05:14:28.640 so therefore it's it's not um it's not always seen as a good thing it can be um dangerous and

05:14:38.040 my personal works with the runes uh especially in relation to thirzaz thirzaz has always been

05:14:44.600 associated with kneething and um and drawing down the weird of others separating and severing them

05:14:52.840 and and putting him into a state of um catharsis and and torpor so um be careful it's based on

05:15:04.580 your intent it's based on your need but thurizaz is not to be trifled with so um

05:15:12.520 so spawn learned his runes from an ascended master that now resides in agartha somewhere

05:15:25.060 i'm not sure but he's got this secret source of of his rune school and again i talk about how

05:15:32.860 intent is so much a part of it because his understanding of the runes is built with all

05:15:40.720 these rules in place those rules are extremely relevant for him and i think that's limiting in

05:15:48.880 a way but i also think it's enhancing in a way when they're followed right um my i'm

05:16:00.400 i'm less fearful of thorough says but i'm not gonna lie when i think about stuff

05:16:06.560 thorough says uh now these and hagalas are probably the ones that i'm least

05:16:17.360 not that i'm least likely to they're the ones that give me a cause for pause that i need to

05:16:22.080 recalibrate my intent and make sure i'm careful with what i'm doing and careful with what i'm

05:16:28.240 trying to do i don't think that they're bad i think that they're just very the circumstance

05:16:36.160 matters the intent matters um yeah so i i think that there's you know

05:16:48.080 put in thought of why you're doing it if your axe has thorough size on it because

05:16:53.680 you want it to break through stuff and break down the wood and if that is your intent and

05:16:59.360 you're focusing on that good i think that's a reasonable thing to do it's just something that

05:17:07.280 i think you should give appropriate amount of thought to there's ones like wuno that i don't

05:17:12.640 really think you need to think twice but this is one that i that i would think twice on and i'm i'm

05:17:21.040 less concerned about it, I think, than Svan is, but it's on my short list of ones that I do

05:17:28.480 make sure I have really, really purposeful thought before I do. And so I think that in and of itself

05:17:36.040 says something. I think we're seeing the same thing. I'm just adding a little bit more.

05:17:40.420 No, we are, but you, so you allude to it a lot though. You have a very, very structured system

05:17:47.200 of how you of steps and things of how you do your runic things and mine is much more

05:17:55.600 by the seat of my pants if you will i guess and i think that you know there's there's pluses minuses

05:18:02.400 to either honestly um but we both agree that you know of the runes there's a few of them that you

05:18:09.220 give some thought to and this is certainly one of them um side note apparently the kids these days

05:18:16.440 uh have determined that uh wizard is something that you call 30 plus year old virgin i see that

05:18:25.600 over in the chat in the internet lingo and good that's exactly the the way that i meant it so i

05:18:32.120 maybe putting basement in front of wizard was redundant

05:18:34.880 but i'm glad glad apparently i got my ear to the streets

05:18:41.500 all right hey matt what is your take on france as far as the riots um i didn't see that one

05:18:57.700 france is a mess um i think that france has been leading the way in being a mess

05:19:07.860 since the storming of the bastille um i think this is where that leads

05:19:20.520 i hope this is a catalyst for fixing some stuff if they can be fixed

05:19:26.460 um and i hope that other places see the ridiculousness that is france that france

05:19:36.540 has become and uh heed heed those warnings um i don't i mean i don't think i'm

05:19:48.220 Um, it would be very easy to turn this into a political, um, discussion usually, and there's

05:20:00.880 a lot of political topics we could talk about.

05:20:03.200 I don't even think that's bad, but it's not kind of the purpose of the program.

05:20:07.680 But what I will say, the protection and the advancement of our folk and our folks' development

05:20:15.840 is a religious imperative, and it's in our declaration purpose. To that end, there's very

05:20:23.040 little in modern France, especially compared to other nations, that is French, and that's

05:20:33.720 really unfortunate. I think, you know, I shared some French fries this morning with my daughter,

05:20:41.740 And that makes me much more of a Frenchman than a lot of folks who live in France right now.

05:20:48.680 And I think that's saying something, unfortunately.

05:20:53.240 And preserving your culture, preserving your traditions and preserving your people is is a duty that we have to our gods, to our ancestors and to our descendants.

05:21:05.880 And I think that the folk of France have been very, very remiss in that duty.

05:21:16.960 And hopefully, hopefully some things can change in a positive way.

05:21:24.960 They had, they had Marine, Marina, and they had Marion Le Pen, and they had the Identitarian Movement.

05:21:31.900 They had all these signs telling them this was going to go.

05:21:35.880 and then macron gets into power and it just continues to burn uh it's it's and you know

05:21:42.980 what it's we can all laugh at it but i think the laughter hides just the tragedy of it it's so

05:21:51.920 sad that there's nothing to do but laugh because the laughing staunches the weeping

05:22:01.260 But it's it's a sad situation for sure.

05:22:10.260 Any thoughts on Rod Novery compared to Ossetree?

05:22:15.620 I will admit my ignorance.

05:22:19.260 I like I know what Rod Novery is, but whereas I may have my ear to the Internet streets, I don't particularly have my ear to those streets.

05:22:31.260 um yeah I mean I've seen a lot of things that I really like but not being not reading Cyrillic

05:22:42.940 not being well versed culturally in Eastern Europe or having a lot of connections there

05:22:49.620 I don't think that I I'm exposed to it as much as I might be otherwise

05:22:54.720 I have not been aware of any domestic like United States practice of rod and ovary that's been

05:23:05.560 significant in any way that I'm aware of but I am aware in Eastern Europe and in Russia there's

05:23:11.240 you know some really cool things going on from what I've heard but I admit my ignorance on that

05:23:17.660 Svon do you know a little bit more about rod and ovary and how that's how that's going well I think

05:23:23.800 too when you say your ignorance of it there's a reason that i think even for you know people that

05:23:28.840 have peered into it there's some confusion a lot of confusion actually so rodinovary is like

05:23:35.480 probably the first big move towards unifying extremely uh intricate variations you have

05:23:45.240 everything from the lotnians the belarusians the uh lithuanians um the the some of the polish not

05:23:53.400 a lot um a lot of them are still holding true to the foreign faith um the the ukrainians obviously

05:24:02.440 uh huge amounts there mix and oftentimes intermixed with germanic teutonic arianism

05:24:08.120 with slavic arianism they're kind of a hybrid there in ukraine um they're extremely faceted

05:24:15.000 everywhere you go um and there's some great pages like on twitter uh there's a uh i believe they're

05:24:20.920 latvian and uh their um style is called dievs i believe it's named after uh the their uh

05:24:33.240 stasis god of tripartite um and it's extremely interesting but there's not a lot that survived

05:24:40.520 christianity did one hell of a number on it mainly because when the turks invaded

05:24:45.480 in the eastern empire all of the orthodox ran up through that area and they had a long time to sit

05:24:52.920 in the mountains and kind of erode a lot of the the uh the um native faith and it really got hidden

05:25:01.960 in things but 100 it is an arian faith tradition because it has the tripartite they have a dynamic

05:25:11.160 god they have a catalystic god and they have a stasis god and of course there's deep connections

05:25:17.000 we can see with like velez and perun just like in the um the story of har harbard with um uh

05:25:27.080 thor and ovin uh we can see that same and i would i would even argue that perhaps that story was

05:25:32.520 influenced by the east side of maybe the gutanish and the russians and and all of them uh but it's

05:25:41.400 super multifaceted and rodanova is the first step towards kind of getting everyone under one banner

05:25:48.280 because they've been so fractured for so long and they're starting to get it and i'm really

05:25:53.240 crossing my fingers that that it holds true um i don't even really mind the hybridness that the

05:25:59.400 ukrainians are doing where they have kind of slavic mixed with germanic because they have a

05:26:04.920 got a lot of evidence that that ukraine is deeply founded and interconnected between the two people

05:26:11.400 it is uh you know there's lots of roots to the teutonic folk there's lots of roots to the slavic

05:26:17.000 peoples and um so they have a lot of that but it's their first attempt to really start to codify

05:26:24.600 and unify under one banner and trust me we know more than anyone how hard that is to do um because

05:26:32.280 you just have so many people that want to kind of run their own cart they want to be their own

05:26:38.200 their own king and they they're all you know tribal leaders um and um it just it's really

05:26:45.880 hard to get going the good news about them and the cool thing about them is that their culture

05:26:50.760 especially through song and music is really facilitates the re-emergence of their faith

05:26:57.640 um so much of their religion actually survived in folk music and dances which is pretty interesting

05:27:04.360 where i think ours kind of survived in writing and in poetry so all right um

05:27:11.800 um so the next question I know a lot of people do an English alphabet to Elder Futhark uh I know

05:27:23.920 it's not perfect but does the AFA have a certain way they do that Svon do you understand what's

05:27:32.260 being asked yeah I and we kind of hit on that before I mean obviously we use the Elder Futhark

05:27:37.720 a basis and for most every instance we would write in comparative to english but there are

05:27:45.480 certain situations where we would not and it would be phonetically based in the folk food arc is what

05:27:51.480 i'm talking about um in the um the idea of spelling the word city uh with kenna's being a k sound and

05:28:00.440 so willow being a s sound it's written in english with a c so we would add the s

05:28:09.000 as it would be s-i-t-y consider though the latin in latin even though we would

05:28:16.520 because we're so familiar with it it would be kivitas the c would make a hard k sound um

05:28:25.720 though we don't like to hear that as well no no i know so we've we've kind of made our own what we

05:28:32.200 pretend latin sounded like right and and yeah i mean uh the the cuss sound is is still there i

05:28:39.720 think if we made a move towards understanding latin a little bit better then we could easily

05:28:43.480 put kenna's back as what it needs to be um but in certain cases you know there's there's other

05:28:50.200 things for instance uh the the ea the iei sounds those are very confusing and so we've kind of um

05:28:59.560 formulated a really simple way of doing that is is unless it makes the double e sound in which we

05:29:06.600 would use the ewaz rune it's written as it would normally be written because there are many

05:29:11.480 variations in english whether it's you know meat like as we're going to meet together or it's meat

05:29:16.920 that we're going to eat or it's um you know a meter or you know there's lots of different ways

05:29:24.040 in which it's hard to codify so we made some really simple explanations on how the uh the uh

05:29:30.440 the folk food art works is basically it works directly in relation to the spelling of english

05:29:35.960 or your native language if you're say if you're speaking german you would write the folk through

05:29:39.560 thark in those rules um except when it applies to say certain sounds that don't match with with the

05:29:48.840 visual like c and k and things like that um otherwise you can never go wrong by just kind of

05:29:55.080 placing those unilaterally um and the i mean there's other you know rules obviously like when

05:30:01.000 When, for instance, the vowel sounds for uruz, uruz usually is used for the oo, double o sound, but also the uh, like as in up, but not o, like as in hope or scope.

05:30:17.160 That's the othalarun, even though technically both of them are kind of an o sound.

05:30:22.180 So it gets a lot of people get confused.

05:30:24.480 And the other one that really confuses people, I think, is the short E, the long E, and the soft E.

05:30:32.880 Isa is short, like as an E slummed, or ice.

05:30:37.740 It's the E and I, and then the long double E in Iwas, and then Ewas is the horse rune,

05:30:46.020 which is like close to like equos, or equa, the equestrian.

05:30:51.120 um it's the uh it's a short dropped s sound so in a way we kind of have three e sounds and that

05:30:59.260 sounds very crazy but i just explained how we kind of have three o sounds as well and in english and

05:31:05.180 and languages are like that where they seem very very confusing so you look for context

05:31:10.160 look for collaborative relation with your native language and then the last and final thing you do

05:31:17.140 is fall on phonetic if you need to and that helps with context so all right um

05:31:28.100 thoughts on the web of weird symbol it's made of nine lines and symmetrical not sure where it

05:31:34.500 started i don't know the origins of that as well i know there was kind of a snowflakey design that

05:31:41.700 was in a what was it a hexagon that was very similar and had a similar intent but i don't really know

05:31:51.300 where um where that came about i've seen that places i don't have anything particularly

05:32:03.540 negative i think it's kind of cool um it's fine do you have any any thoughts or any insight on

05:32:08.820 that as a symbol yeah um well my my esoteric teacher um the the uh he's passed away as of late

05:32:21.220 so where he has ended up who knows what roads he's on now um he used that symbol a lot because

05:32:28.260 it encapsulated all the runes in it so the um the uh three staves up three staves left three

05:32:38.500 staves right all interlaced uh were was a huge focal point in um my runic um

05:32:49.620 like training so one of the things that we used to do is make that image on a piece of white

05:32:54.900 cardboard or white board and then picture think of a rune say the rune and then picture it in the

05:33:02.900 grid as we called it the grid and it was like you could see that rune and then you would hold on to

05:33:08.500 that image even though you're looking at the the grid itself i know it's sometimes referred to as

05:33:13.460 other things but we always called it the grid and um you would try to find the rune and picture it

05:33:17.940 in there and then when you say another rune you would then picture the next room but it contains

05:33:23.380 all the runes within it um and oftentimes in all other variational forms no matter what futhar

05:33:29.700 whether it's armanin or elder they're all there so i i have a lot of but i don't know where it

05:33:38.820 came from the origin of that i don't know i i remember seeing i think the oldest thing i've

05:33:43.300 ever seen it was was in a book and it was drawn as twigs like uh actual staves with little twigs

05:33:51.060 and leaves and it looked like an old print but i i don't know if that was just done on purpose or not

05:33:57.060 to make it look vintage or old outside of that i don't have any knowledge as to where it might have

05:34:02.260 shown up um all right and then last question we've got has sigerheim considered uh making

05:34:16.660 contingency plans for their people in case of different emergencies um yes and i think a lot

05:34:23.140 of people get more into that than i do but the biggest contingency plan is sigerheim itself

05:34:32.100 not just sigerheim but greater sigerheim um getting our people to move there there will

05:34:40.980 obviously be families that live on sigerheim proper but getting as many afa members as would

05:34:48.740 like to to move into that county is the plan it is the contingency plan um us all being close

05:34:57.780 together is a good thing it is a good thing in times of abundance and it's an even better

05:35:05.700 or more necessary good thing in times of of trouble and hardship so

05:35:12.260 So Sigurheim is the contingency plan.

05:35:17.500 Once we get more services and more things, I think we can develop better infrastructure for certain things.

05:35:25.900 But contained in the dream of Sigurheim, and once we get more housing and things there, the idea is to have a spot for people to stay if they find themselves without a place to live for a time,

05:35:38.000 if they find themselves old and without support, if they find themselves crippled and without

05:35:44.520 support, we'll have place for them. If we find people displaced, we'll be able to help out.

05:35:50.280 We'll also be a central spot that we'll be able to house and feed and take care of our folk if

05:35:55.580 they run into harm to hard times there. And it's also located in a really good part of the country

05:36:02.040 where it's got a lot of sources of water nearby we've got um very quick and easy access to many

05:36:10.840 surrounding states to a lot of different places so i think it's a really important hub to have

05:36:17.480 depending upon emergencies and getting our people there i think is is the the best thing we can do

05:36:25.400 and i think that's what we got for this evening i go ahead swan i just wanted to say one thing i

05:36:30.920 just was looking at some of the questions here one thing um of bjorn 40 14 said in my opinion we

05:36:39.480 should be phonetic and not transliterative um that is very i was in that mindset a little while back

05:36:48.200 until you really start trying to expound on ideas phonetic runic work is extremely hard

05:36:57.800 versus transliterative because again certain words especially in english are repetitive

05:37:03.640 you know there's there there and there and so doing transliterative actually helps to make a

05:37:10.760 lot of context otherwise people spend huge amount of time trying to decipher what's being said and

05:37:17.720 it takes a vast amount of time so going transliterative allowed more people to be able to

05:37:24.280 translate faster the other thing futhork the anglo-saxon runes are best for english

05:37:30.920 that is somewhat correct but at the same time the extra lettering there's 32 letters and when

05:37:37.480 we start to get into ea ae and ior and certain things like that they don't we don't use a lot

05:37:46.360 of those combinations anymore and um so you know the the other part problem is not a lot of people

05:37:53.720 know the anglo um huthork and some of the other runes are really mixed up uh whereas in the food

05:38:01.320 orc um the ah rune that most everyone knows in every form is now more of an o sound and that

05:38:10.280 would really throw people off so i like the food orc i'm not down downing it at all and i think

05:38:16.120 there's a mystery to it but perhaps you know if there was a need be perhaps we could incorporate

05:38:23.080 more into that but right now everyone's mainstay was the elder futhark so the elder futhark became

05:38:30.520 the mainstay of the um folk futhark as far as its usage i just wanted to cover those two points

05:38:36.840 because i saw those i know they're probably long gone and asleep by now but if they listen to this

05:38:41.720 and they listen to the end the secrets are waiting there there we go all right guys thank you all so

05:38:48.920 much for being on tonight swan thank you once again for being here and sharing your wisdom with

05:38:53.880 us we appreciate it thanks for having me um it's been a good year i'm excited for the year to come

05:39:01.880 um i appreciate our audience you guys are great i look forward to it and

05:39:07.880 And I will be at Sigurheim or very close to Sigurheim doing my broadcast next week.

05:39:19.060 So I will talk to you guys then.

05:39:23.060 Until then, hail the gods, hail the folk, hail the AFA.

05:39:27.320 And remember that victory never sleeps.

05:39:31.260 Good night, everybody.

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Asatru Folk Assembly - July 13, 2023

7⧸12⧸23 Victory Never Sleeps, Episode 53 - The Runes

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