In this episode of VN Sleeps, we begin our series on the runes. We discuss the concept of runes, what they are, how they work, and why they are important to AFA. Also, we celebrate my birthday!
00:03:58.400hello everybody sorry about that i was thought i'd make it in at the last possible second and
00:04:08.560then my computer told me it had to restart uh appreciate you holding holding down the fort for
00:04:14.880us a couple of seconds all right good cool enough um yeah welcome everybody back it's great to talk
00:04:25.760to you this evening i think svan was giving you a little bit of the rundown but he and i are going
00:04:31.760to for the next i don't know i got a math but for the next uh seven sessions i believe including
00:04:40.640today we're going to talk about the runes generally tonight and then we're going to break them off
00:04:50.640into groups of three and talk about those in our subsequent episodes about the runes um
00:04:59.840any any question on the runes at any time during any of these is fair game
00:05:05.360as is any question in general about also true or about uh anything else that
00:05:11.760you guys would like an answer from us on um oh something i should mention so
00:05:17.920So good top of the program notes. We are live tonight on Entropy, on YouTube, of course, on Odyssey, on VK, and on Twitter as usual.
00:05:35.480but we are also uh live tonight on rumble for the first time so anybody joining us on rumble
00:05:44.800uh hello and i'm glad glad you guys are there we are working on getting that figured out this is
00:05:52.700kind of our our dry run on that so hopefully that's all working smooth and we can iron out
00:05:59.720anything we run into on that. Matter of fact, any of our in-house AFA leadership or anybody else
00:06:07.320who wants to, if you guys want to pop on over on Rumble and view us there, you can give us kind of
00:06:12.100a heads up and do some scouting for us on how that's working. Also, last opportunity to see if
00:06:27.540can get any last minute people that might want to join us or be able to join us um but we've got
00:06:34.500uh sigger bloat at siggerheim coming up next next week uh a week from a week from this saturday so
00:06:44.020on saturday the 22nd and that's going to be our first major event at siggerheim um it is going to
00:06:51.860be the the annual event that we're going to celebrate there so this will set a precedent
00:06:59.060for many years to come it's going to be very exciting i'm really looking forward to showing
00:07:04.580showing the sigerheim property off to everybody who's going to come there and
00:07:08.820and give everybody a chance to experience it it's a really amazing place
00:07:13.780it's going to be kind of rustic going to be some camping going to be
00:07:16.980outdoors in the in the summer heat so plan accordingly but we would love to have anybody
00:07:23.700who can make it show up there uh that's going to be in jackson county tennessee if you're
00:07:28.820interested please get in touch with your folk builder they can get you squared away if you are
00:07:32.740not a member that's okay but do check with your folk builder first and they can get you vetted
00:07:38.580make sure that's all squared away but we'd love to see you guys there um without further
00:07:46.980Oh, I see somebody. I see a couple of people over in the chat. Hey, guys, thank you so much. For those of you that may not know, I was born 42 years ago today. So I appreciate that, everybody. It's a nice way to spend my birthday, getting to talk to you guys and getting to talk to one of my best friends, Svon, on here. It's going to be a good night.
00:08:09.900birthday well thank you and uh yeah without further ado first can you break down what a
00:08:19.740rune is what it means what the word means perhaps and then if anybody is completely unfamiliar with
00:08:27.820the concept of runes could you fill them in on what you think they need to know at the top of
00:08:33.420the program. That is a, that is a super interesting and often it's like a strange
00:08:41.640question in, in relation to, uh, you know, what, I guess, where we are to where we were,
00:08:49.320um, in relation to, uh, first starting out, I guess the best way to say it is a rune is singularly
00:08:57.040is, um, a symbol in a collection of symbols, um, that would constitute what we would know as an
00:09:06.160alphabet. Um, so for anybody who doesn't know what the runes are coming at this from a completely
00:09:13.140open, uh, and, and unspecific point of view, a rune is a singular symbol, and it's often
00:09:21.100always associated with a particular sequence of runes that would be like an alphabet and we call
00:09:29.140those futharks the reason why we call it a futhark is because the first set of runes the first six
00:09:37.720set of runes uh spells out the word futhark so um the series of futharks there are multiple
00:09:50.380different ones with often multiple different variations of the same sounds and the symbols
00:09:57.140are very similar but um there could be many different futharks that that we are talking
00:10:03.360about especially if you consider outside of the germanosphere and we can get into that
00:10:08.220so one symbol amongst a plethora of symbols that's called a futhark much like alphabet
00:10:15.420the beginning of it is the sequence um each of the symbols um has a mysterious origin with lots
00:10:26.300of theories as to exactly where they come from and each symbol represents a sound and that is
00:10:32.540a key component to understanding once you start to get into more than just the material of what
00:10:41.180a rune is the sound is uh conducive to the symbol just like any other alphabet um each letter has
00:10:51.900a name each name has uh you know a kind of a semi-connective uh meaning to the symbol itself
00:11:02.780in certain ways, depending on who you talk to. And ultimately, the sounds are seen as
00:11:15.740powerful forces within the creation of the world. So this is where it starts to kind of jump
00:11:23.540outside of a normal alphabet. There are many people that have speculative ideas as to the
00:11:30.940meanings of the runes. Various people throughout history, and we'll go over the ages of runes
00:11:38.500that we know of, but as the ages have gone on, the theories of the meanings of the runes has
00:11:49.780developed over time and has different meanings amongst different people, depending on
00:11:56.380who you talk to, or different schools of thought. But these ancient meanings are often interpreted
00:12:03.280both in a divinatory practice, in which there's like a random drawing of these symbols,
00:12:11.360and these symbols are read, and the meanings of each of the symbols has portents to,
00:12:17.420say, a question or something of a time. The other way that people look at it is that there is an
00:12:25.060ability to um take the meaning of that rune and implement its its inclinations into the world
00:12:35.260and in that case it would be like uh projecting an idea or a motivation into the world through
00:12:42.760uh the process of of like producing the symbol and then that symbol could then manifest or perhaps
00:12:50.980uh incline fate to uh go in a direction or say willfully guide fate into a direction so they're
00:13:02.340the the runes are an alphabet that has esoteric meaning oftentimes in different forms but mainly
00:13:10.260in divination and through um or or uh the projection of symbolic um i would say uh like
00:13:19.300an esoteric art form like magic in a sense um there are other forms that have shown up over
00:13:26.400time though like there is even um you know a uh a movement in which you're you know placing your
00:13:33.260body in the same positions as the symbols of the runes for various reasons whether it's been for
00:13:38.740martial arts whether it's been for health in in regards to stretching and and um strength or even
00:13:46.000lymphatic drainage. It's a developing system within our religion. And you don't have to be
00:13:56.780also true to know about the runes. The runes have been kind of placed out there oftentimes
00:14:00.920separately from the faith. And not every also true knows the runes or uses the runes in any
00:14:10.360particular manner that I've described. They just know perhaps the symbol and the meaning behind
00:14:15.500the rune um or the vocalization of the sound and uh so you can be an ausitru and know about the
00:14:26.700runes but not necessarily be a practitioner or a believer in the way that the runes uh correlate
00:14:33.420to the world around us there are people that do though i mean i i came into ausitru because of
00:14:38.940the runes uh my interest was uh something electrified me uh when i was younger and i was
00:14:45.340reading um tolkien's books and i i saw the border writings um and his his symbols are based off of
00:14:53.260the anglo-saxon futhork and um yeah it just it uh inspired me and it lit a fire in my mind that i
00:15:03.980began looking into where the runes came from what did they mean and that led me down the path of
00:15:11.180uh finding out that that my ancestors had a faith that there was a faith before christianity
00:15:17.020amongst my people and that ignited everything so just a basic overview of that as the runes are
00:15:27.900um in the uh thumbnail for the video the the uh one of the most common futharks that that we use
00:15:37.900um is used and it's called the elder futhark there again there's many different futharks
00:15:43.740that have been used throughout the ages and it's worth noting that um have morphed and changed over
00:15:49.260time um the uh some of that have dropped in number have expanded in number and there's multiple
00:15:56.540theories behind it and so rune lore as it's often referred to is kind of a um i joke and say it's
00:16:06.140like a religion within the religion in the sense that there's much there's there's esoteric mysteries
00:16:11.740involved in runic studies um that have brought in historians there's even people that hold degrees
00:16:19.820in it um and their translations um mainly because of the second era of runes the um the younger era
00:16:27.500as it's often referred to is the viking time frame in which um a lot of things were happening
00:16:32.540and stones were being written so a lot of people you know do translations but for for a beginner
00:16:39.980that's just something worth noting there's about 24 and the most common futhark that is used is
00:16:46.220the elder futhark and we can go into the reasons why it's called elder and younger but that's
00:16:51.340just a brief overview so something i think is important for us to start um
00:17:03.980we we use this word interchangeably and i think or i mean we apply meaning to it interchangeably
00:17:12.060But as a fundamental kind of touchstone to remember, the word rune means esoteric.
00:17:30.060The rune in and of itself is the meaning behind the letter.
00:17:34.020the collection of lines that we also all myself included refer to as the runes
00:17:42.020they are a sigil of the mystery behind all of the meaning that is contained in that sigil
00:17:54.880So. Just as something to keep in mind, the rune is the mystery that the letter describes.
00:18:05.040The rune is not the letter in its most fundamental sense.
00:18:08.540Now, yes, we will for the rest of whatever, we'll talk about the runes and we're talking about the little stick drawing on a rock or a piece of wood or whatever the case is that we're doing.
00:18:20.660but do keep in mind the the meat is what that sigil represents not the sigil itself um
00:18:30.820and i think it was a key point i glossed over and you definitely hit the the meaning of the word
00:18:36.260rune meaning a a mystery it can often be uh you know it's interpreted as a whisper or a roar
00:18:43.060uh both of them have been kind of used in inscriptions um so the sound is
00:18:51.220absolutely uh pivotal as well as the meaning um but i've you know i glossed over that the actual
00:18:58.420what a what a rune is as opposed to the word like sigil or symbol or which is a more of the latin
00:22:53.980witness fun what are your motivations behind creating the folk food arc and can you tell
00:22:59.660us a little bit about it i was i was hoping that this would come towards the latter end um
00:23:05.500But I know some people have, it's been everywhere from an interest to even a controversy, I think.
00:23:14.140One of the big things I think that should be noted about the Folk Futhark is that the Folk Futhark is based off of all of the Futharks that have come before.
00:23:27.240So it's more of a nod or to pay homage to all the Futharks.
00:23:35.500It's not an attempt to create something that's our own, but yet, you know, disregarding anything from the past.
00:23:44.100Not at all. It is absolutely a pull from all of the Futharks, Elder, Younger, Anglo-Saxon, the Armanin, and even the medieval German manuscripts.
00:23:58.800scripts. There's two or two are in there. It was my intention to create a baseline rule
00:24:05.740for reading and writing runes in order to use in art at the Hoffs. So when we're, you
00:24:17.480know, when I'm painting the Godsteds at the Hoffs, I wanted to convey ideas through the
00:24:26.620runes to both to induce inspiration like it inspired me um to create uh you know messaging
00:24:36.380that be able to pass on messaging even beyond uh in generations of our of our church so
00:24:44.140you know the the the biggest problem that people have faced is that there are many different food
00:24:48.540arts and there are many different ways to implement the writing system of those food
00:24:55.020arcs some people do it phonetically some people just copy their current modern um you know form
00:25:02.540of speech and grammar um so there's there is a lot of undecidedness that i think people have
00:25:10.220so what one of the benefits of being the church of aussitrew is to set okay we're going to use
00:25:16.220all of the futharks and we're going to uh use a set system so that we can pass on ideas and this
00:25:23.740way we can you know entice people to learn about the runes all the different food arts and um go
00:25:30.380from a pious stance of passing on um messages through the through the murals um while at the
00:25:41.980same time hoping that people will look into the esoteric if you will so that was the real that was
00:25:47.740the real inspiration behind it it wasn't a sense that we're going to reinvent the wheel not at all
00:25:53.260i mean that's ridiculous especially if uh with origins of the runes there is a divine origin
00:25:59.900of the runes that um you know uh is is laid upon the table there and i would never attempt to
00:26:08.780segue that in some way shape or form but a lot of times people don't pay homage to
00:26:15.580the futharks that have that have developed over the the the currently fifth age that we're in of
00:26:21.660runes so i think it's worth noting that so that was my inspiration if you go to the hoffs and
00:26:27.900you look at the murals you will see things written in runic it's in the folk futhark
00:26:32.940which was just a convenient way of saying a hybrid of all the futharks that have come before
00:26:39.020it's just an easier way to say it and uh and we have a set kind of system in in which those runes
00:26:45.500are implemented in to to read in english though it could the rules could apply if uh say there
00:26:52.700were members in germany or members um you know in in uh sweden that were wishing to you know
00:27:00.700applicate the the folk food art for writing messages uh the rules would you know are broad
00:27:06.700enough that they could they could apply despite the differences so that's an important thing guys
00:27:13.820the folk futhark isn't it's the elder futhark with slightly different
00:27:19.580pictures that's all it is is uh a combination of all the different runic systems that we
00:27:27.580are aware of with just you know different variants on the rune shapes
00:27:33.740implementing the exact same meaning the exact same linguistics of the elder futhark as we understand
00:27:49.980uh i think it's also worth noting that for a lot of people that are coming into this into the
00:27:54.940when we talk about like the elder or the younger is that we are basing our understanding of the
00:28:01.740runes on archaeological finds there are some archaeological finds of evidence of the runes
00:28:09.180in their full entirety as a as an alphabet as we know the word to mean um there are very few
00:28:17.260but there are some very old ones that go up uh back just before you know the the the first century
00:28:27.820the of uh ad or common era or whatever you want to call it um that uh have come about where we
00:28:36.060have a full in uh like i guess what would it be called uh i mean it's the full alphabet i guess
00:28:43.340the the instead of it being a message without knowing fully where one ends and one begins as
00:28:49.260the entirety of the alphabet or the futhark we have some that are listed out in completion
00:28:54.860with symbol showing there is an end so now we know we have a framework and so any of those
00:29:01.260that follow in that time frame are called the elder futhark or the elder runes if you will
00:29:10.140um all right so next question uh aren't they just an alphabet for rituals and magic uh no
00:29:19.900not actually first yes they are an alphabet that you can use in rituals and magic certainly
00:29:26.540they're not just that though there are many other things and even even in
00:29:33.580it's one of the things the further you go back the detail you have on how our ancestors
00:29:39.660use them and put them into practice becomes sketchier and sketchier but one thing that's
00:29:44.860obvious from things like inscriptions in the Hagia Sophia they're oftentimes viking used vikings use
00:29:55.820them for graffiti it literally says something like you know Sven or whoever the the viking dude was
00:30:02.300here and that's the thing so they were used often for mundane writing for very common just linguistic
00:30:10.940purposes they were also used um certainly for for magical purposes but i think it would be
00:30:23.020i think it would be far too limiting not to acknowledge that you know quite a bit of them
00:30:27.500and especially as time progressed out of the the ousatru era they've been used very consistently
00:30:35.820for just mundane writing um but they also have deep spiritual context and as this may be i guess
00:30:43.740contained depending on how you're asking the question but as far as writing for for use in
00:30:47.900rituals they're also used um for divination with our ancestors and you know even tacitus writes
00:30:55.980about that um outside of as a writing tool they're used as a as a uh
00:31:10.380hmm i'm trying to think of what the word i'm looking for is they're used as a
00:31:15.100sound as a speaking tool to meditate on to harmonize with to chant
00:31:23.340um spoken word chanting and the intoning of sound is one of the biggest keys to magic since you
00:31:36.060know the ancestral times it's one of those very root keys and magical action it's inherent in
00:31:43.580in Ymir and his name, in Odin and his name, the idea of these kind of powerful utterances,
00:31:53.800these sounds, these chants, these incantations, if you will, are very much at the root of all
00:32:01.880Western Aryan magic. And so runes are, and their associated sound they make are very important
00:32:11.700that way too outside of just a written context you have anything to add's fun yeah well i definitely
00:32:21.220um as you had said like there's another uh name uh emir's name is all yelmer and all yelmer
00:32:29.620literally means the terrible roar the terrible sounding um so yes the the idea of utilizing
00:32:36.500these sounds both in linguistics but also in the manifestation of what could be described as
00:32:42.500willful intent within the world through the usage of sound uh through the usage of the symbol um
00:32:51.380and the lore that's built around that um is how i think a lot of the runic possibilities are
00:32:57.460manifested but they can be as mundane as as you had said i was here ago these you know i there
00:33:02.180was even one in uh scotland where it was a it was a woman telling her husband he was in trouble um
00:33:08.740there was uh there it's it's been utilized in various ways throughout four major um epochs or
00:33:18.740epics of of time uh and so there's a lot to go on and i think if when when people get very very
00:33:26.100definitive um outside of our our period of runic history um it gets it gets interesting but it's
00:33:37.380worth noting like uh i would i would say that there are five epics and this is based off of
00:33:43.540dr flowers edward thorson's pen name uh that his four uh epics of time which is the elder the
00:33:52.420younger the middle the revival and now i believe that we are in the reclamation age in which we
00:34:00.820uh reclaim the runes as a religious um expression and reunite the runic um systems with religion
00:34:14.180in and of itself because like i said before religions are not uh beholden to the runes
00:34:20.420in the sense that you could actually pick up a runic book and has no real solid um connections
00:34:27.460to ousatru or at least legitimate ones too sometimes they do make claim but it's not often
00:34:33.380the case and um we are moving back to where uh the the uh i would say the birthright of
00:34:44.740ausatru itself and of you know ethnic religion amongst the germanic peoples the runes um have
00:34:52.980absolute um necessity and and the and the right to be reclaimed back um and i think a lot of people
00:35:00.980have a lot of arguments against that in various ways because they just kind of place it along
00:35:06.500with other divination uh or magical systems that you know in an in this eclectic age they have no
00:35:13.620mooring or no uh anchoring towards any sort of ethnic group and it's kind of just all open to
00:35:19.620whoever wants to use them and we are uh again taking that and and allowing ourselves to um
00:35:29.060you know pivot and point in our in our direction as to where we are going to go
00:35:33.940with the runic knowledge based within the faith or coinciding with the faith
00:35:40.180that all right so oh we have a monetized um super chat question over on rumble appreciate you guys
00:35:54.020checking out on rumble i appreciate our audience there i hope to see that grow and be successful
00:35:58.660for us our first rumble donation of five dollars much appreciated is from kevin asking how to use
00:36:08.420the runes in a manly fashion to avoid seem seeming argor i was assuming he means ergi
00:36:18.820yeah area um yeah to use uh so and svan can elaborate on this quite a bit um
00:36:28.100um I think that I don't think there is the same stigma to cross gender use of runic magic that
00:36:40.940there is to say their magic whereas say their magic is inherently
00:36:48.080practiced more often by women in our tradition um runic magic in and of itself is inherently
00:36:57.960more masculine so i think if you want to do magic things and you're choosing
00:37:02.120runes as your your way of doing that you're already on the right foot starting out that way0.98
00:37:08.040yeah so okay other than making the distinction that Sather traditionally is practiced by women
00:37:20.460and there was a stigma to it if men practiced it and we can go into that later if people have
00:37:25.980questions on why that is runic magic um be it written spells or
00:37:35.900chance incantations were inherently masculine and most of the examples that we have
00:37:43.580you know i hesitate to say all but to my mind all that i can think of that we have
00:37:47.660of examples of runic magic in our war have been men and male practitioners so i think
00:37:54.460you're safe from the uh the taint of erdy on that one but uh svan might have some some additional
00:38:00.860insight yeah i think if we're talking about i think if you look out on the internet if you look
00:38:06.620out in just a general sense if we're talking about this in the subject of masculinity and femininity
00:38:11.580and and for people that are new to the subject even if you're also true or just new in general
00:38:17.660the idea that uh there's like two kind of internal magic systems within alsatru
00:38:23.820that manifest amongst members who uh you know believe in their usage so you don't have to be
00:38:30.860be uh alsatru to use the runes in the sense that you can find them in books but also too
00:38:37.580you don't have to use them if you are alsatru uh there are people who you know have variant
00:38:43.420different beliefs as to where they go. And this leads us to, uh, the mentioning of Cedar or Cedar
00:38:50.500Cedar is, um, is, uh, a magic form. That's, um, been defined as feminine and it's practitioners.
00:39:00.220Uh, a lot of people will say like, uh, that, you know, that it's unmasculine, um, to practice it
00:39:06.640in its form, whatever, uh, speculative theories as to how it was practiced. Cause a lot of people,
00:39:11.980um don't know exactly how it was practiced um however it's just worth noting that the practitioners
00:39:20.940of saether uh by a broad definition are usually females there's no there's no it seems to be an
00:39:29.660art exclusive or in conducive to the feminine spirit so take that for what that is but the
00:39:36.060the runes don't seem to be that case the runes are utilized uh often in in uh the uh the lore and
00:39:45.720the stories uh whether it's you know carving them upon uh you know blades and upon stones but both
00:39:53.460men and women are masculine and feminine uh has not really been kind of correlated to the runes
00:39:59.700A perfect example would be, you know, when with Sigurd the dragon slayer, when he awakens the Valkyrie or Valkyrie and she blesses him with runic knowledge, she knows it and she gives it to him.
00:40:14.840another example would be like an eric saga where there is a uh a woman who's called a safe corner
00:40:21.200but she is marked as having her her um lots oftentimes are referred to as lots uh like from
00:40:28.860the bible the random uh dropping of of tines or sticks to read uh that she has a pouch on her
00:40:37.100her belt um and though she doesn't do it in the story it's still marked that she has her lots
00:40:43.960hanging from her belt. So, uh, runic magic or runic, uh, esoteric art, um, seems to be less
00:40:55.740built around that because say there seems to be from a feminine source as to the, uh, the usage
00:41:03.280of practitioner of it, where women are kind of, they are the, the, um, the ones who do it because
00:41:09.480it requires having a feminine spirit and i think that it's worth noting that that they saw value
00:41:15.880in that it's even marked it's remarked by tacitus um and i saw a question earlier so i wanted to
00:41:21.960look it up but i you know um tacitus is uh observations of the germanics having great
00:41:29.320value in the auspices of women i think he's referring to their usage of dream interpretations
00:41:35.640and uh more like a shamanic style of um practitioners often done by by women
00:41:43.640so runic magic has not doesn't really have a lot of that so you to say like how can i use them to
00:41:51.800be more to to not get into that trap is is that the the trap is not necessarily there that you're
00:41:59.640not going to fall into it the usage of it uh it's just finding you know valuable information
00:42:05.640there's a lot of information out there so finding it valuable and uh clear and concise for the level
00:42:11.000you're at so i'm gonna correct something i'm seeing in the chat just as a as a point of fact
00:42:18.680the odinus temple in uh in england isn't owned by the odinic right it's owned by a group called the
00:42:26.600odinist fellowship and not not the the olden days odinist fellowship of lc christensen's time but
00:42:36.520a group under the name the odinist fellowship and they don't have a lot of information out there on
00:42:45.800what they are how to get a hold of them and i think a lot of their stuff is built around kind
00:42:50.120of group cost sharing of using that temple but that's not an odenic right temple to the best
00:42:57.080of my knowledge i don't know if they have some affiliation with this group or not but it's it's
00:43:01.000owned by a group called the ognus fellowship um our next question our second monetized question
00:43:09.160bumping it up to the top of the super chat over on rumble thank you so much we really appreciate it
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00:43:21.240i'm really excited about rumble you can have some nick i've been bothering him about it all week
00:43:26.440how can we learn the folk futhark is there a booklet slash paper i would like to burn them
00:43:32.920and use them on wood it's fun tell people how they can know more about the folk futhark i see
00:43:40.600that nick posted a graphic other than quick taking a screenshot of something or that
00:43:46.120is that posted and available somewhere can can somebody post that somewhere
00:43:54.440i i mean the image itself uh you know i is available it's been kind of going around on
00:43:59.160our social media but pause i misspoke certainly someone can post it somewhere somewhere will
00:44:04.920somebody volunteer to take that picture and post it up on our social media somewhere or in a place
00:44:09.640that these folks can access that more readily yeah if you're interested in the folk food art
00:44:14.920remember it's then you are interested in all the food arcs that have formulated it so that's what
00:44:21.640the intention was was to inspire but if you're talking about utilizing it specifically in um
00:44:28.520in regards to the murals or something of that nature um i would say the best thing to understand
00:44:34.600is that it is running under the rules that are applied to the elder futhark so there's not much
00:44:43.000other than the the variations of the way that the the symbols are written if you're familiar
00:44:49.080with the elder futhark and if you're not become familiar with the elder futhark as far as the
00:44:54.520linguistic rules we we had to encounter the idea of transmitting ideas in a set way and so
00:45:04.600the general rule is, is that we decided to go with a, a, uh, an equivalency, whatever your native
00:45:12.740language is, the utilizing the sounds that are available in the elder futhark or in the folk
00:45:19.520futhark as an ability, as, as one for one. There are some variations with certain, um, uh, runes,
00:45:27.540like perfect example is that um the s sound in utilization with the letter c so like the word
00:45:34.820city or um the word uh like cyst or something of that nature uh you know you would use the s
00:45:42.740because there is technically no um uh c equivalency to s you know that we have a k sound and we have
00:45:52.500have an s sound so if it's a word that's spelled with a c you know you you would uh you would use
00:45:59.000the s sound so there are some things like that or there's a double e sound that we utilize as well
00:46:03.920um as far as the formulation of it generally there well there hasn't been anything
00:46:10.800officially written out in order to teach people how to read the murals it's for for the most part
00:46:17.680laid out in the sense that you would follow the rules of the elder futhark but there are some
00:46:22.140nuances that are again utilized because uh in in um modern english we have a lot of latin words
00:46:30.060so this creates an interesting environment when it comes to translating things and uh the
00:46:36.620also true folk assembly has no problem using latin words or latin based words to express ideas
00:46:42.540because it'd be foolish to say you know that we don't you know many great ideas are that we are
00:46:48.700hybrid language now and they're both of this you know of arian origins so that you know to nitpick
00:46:54.460it that far but uh when doing so that that creates some interesting translational stuff
00:47:00.140uh when it comes to writing in runic um i think that um for members of the of the astro folks
00:47:06.060suddenly i would like to you know maybe hold some video classes on uh explaining how to utilize it
00:47:12.300and read it um as far as the availability outside of the afa i i don't foresee it coming to any
00:47:18.700sense where it's going to be, you know, dished out to folks on a market level, if you will.
00:47:28.060All right. What do you think about the idea that people now do rune readings? Is that based in
00:47:40.700history or not? Or maybe or maybe not? But could the modern spiritual ways they're now used in
00:47:48.280still work so there is a lot there the principle of using runes for divination
00:47:59.400the earliest instance that i am aware of is something we've already mentioned in the broadcast
00:48:05.960but uh in tacitus germania they describe using runes in in a divinatory way so rune readings
00:48:16.040go back at least that far now tacitus was want to say that he was writing
00:48:28.920during the reign of nero but i'm not certain a lot of his events and things that he would describe
00:48:37.000were contemporary and in augustus's reign so it's very early like the transition from from bc to ad
00:48:46.920times that we're talking about germanic tribes being observed doing runic divination now is the
00:48:54.920way that we do it now anything remotely similar to the way that they did it back then i don't know
00:49:00.280I think that it would be presumptuous to say that it is, but this is something that I want to harken back to at the beginning of the broadcast that I mentioned.
00:49:11.080What makes the magic most effective is the spiritual might of the practitioner coupled with their intent and the context that they put it in.
00:49:21.080runes are very much a tool in the hand of the magus on what parameters he sets if he's going
00:49:33.980to use them in that way so you can't like make the rules up after you do your rune cast because
00:49:39.560then you'll you know you can make up whatever you want but if you have a clear intention and a clear
00:49:44.720understanding of what the rules are before you do it then there's a lot of different methods people
00:49:49.400use all of which can be correct depending upon the the paradigm set out by the the practitioner
00:49:57.640before they do it um so there's certainly lots and lots of modern and pre-modern innovations
00:50:07.160done to the way that a lot of us do uh rune readings or rune divination today but it is
00:50:14.200based on something that the concept of using them for divinatory purposes is you know time honored
00:50:21.080and ancient yeah the excerpt from tacitus and i'm not going to read the whole thing but it says
00:50:27.720for divination and the casting of lots they have the highest regard their procedure in
00:50:33.080casting lots is always the same they cut off a branch from a nut bearing tree and there's
00:50:39.000actually some belief a fruit bearing nut bearing or seed bearing um in that translation and they
00:50:46.200slice it into strips and they mark them with different signs and throw them completely at
00:50:53.160random upon a white cloth um and i won't read the rest of it but in tacitus germania they do kind of
00:51:00.120reference that and certain schools do that i mean if you um meet uh runic practitioners um
00:51:06.280Um, uh, they, there are some, including, uh, the school that I, I learned from, um, in casting,
00:51:14.860uh, them randomly upon a white cloth in order to, um, discern things. And this is, this is,
00:51:23.600again, an ancient tradition that's been amongst almost all, um, you know, cultures. So ours is
00:51:31.020no different um it's just that over time and those those uh you know the usage of the runes
00:51:37.240has developed and changed and the medians in which they're used as well and some people have
00:51:42.080different i've seen even up until now where people use it like cards like almost like tarot cards and
00:51:47.840you might meet people that are like that's absolutely ridiculous and other people that
00:51:51.380say that it has validity um you know we're trying to give a neutral approach for people to to kind
00:51:57.480of get a foothold into the uh the entirety of it but yeah svan is i'm trying to give you guys a
00:52:07.400biased approach what i think's good and what i think's bs but i do i do preface that
00:52:15.000so much of it um okay so i think this is a good time to venture into this um
00:52:23.240Um, runes are absolutely objective forces of the universe that exist.
00:52:37.140They are also absolutely messages from perhaps dead ancestors.
01:00:00.600Um, outside of that, the only night that I really pull runes like as a yearly thing is in, during Yule on Odin's night. Um, that's a night that I generally hold off towards, um, all manners of auspices, uh, you know, sometimes dripping pewter and, um, uh, doing like any sort of, uh, traditional European styles of, of divination practices.
01:00:27.620For me, that night is usually the night that I draw runes. I do them randomly and I draw three runes on a white cloth that I have used for many, many, many, many, many years.
01:00:41.700And then I read them in accordance to the way I was taught by my teacher in order to, you know, see as the events unfold, as the past and the present begin to weave a future present, if you will.
01:01:02.120um i like to be really sparing and how often i do runic pulls as well i think
01:01:14.940there's something to be said for keeping it special it's not a party trick it's not you
01:01:22.920know like let's play with the magic eight ball it's a very serious thing and if you want serious
01:01:29.560results, I think that's something you ought to do, is be very deliberate and very sparing
01:01:41.000in how oftenly you do it. And only do it for things that are significant. I don't often
01:01:55.960do rune pulls so i uh i don't have any any set dates that i do them on i know sometimes it's
01:02:05.000auspicious at different you know different times of the year different moon cycles different
01:02:09.960holidays to to do runic work um but i do it more occasion based so one time that's the most often
01:02:23.640that i do a runic poll these days is when performing a baby naming one of the things
01:02:29.320that i do in a baby naming is i ask for each of the three nor near to bless the child with
01:02:39.160with with the gift of a rune to put their life into perspective
01:02:43.720and you know our three our three norns uh mother earth being representing the past and where where
01:02:50.600someone comes from and uh mother verdandi being the present moment the present time
01:02:58.520and mother scold being what ought to happen or a trajectory towards the future
01:03:05.960and so that's what's in my head when i do the rune pull um in that scenario i like to when
01:03:15.720i'm doing rune pulls in general do them sequentially three runes do a past present
01:03:22.680and future for lack of a better term but a little bit deeper than that a
01:03:29.240what the genesis of a situation is a better a rune to better understand
01:03:35.720how we got here a rune to better understand where we are in the moment and then with those
01:03:45.160to in mind a rune to shed light on on where that will go in the future where that's headed
01:03:54.200and so that's the context that i that i draw runes in i usually always do the three rune pull
01:04:01.240um important and i didn't for a while not on purpose i just wasn't thinking
01:04:07.720when you draw a rune put it back in the bag to draw again for the next one if you're drawing
01:04:13.640three of them because there's plenty, and this is, this is just me talking. I'm sure there's
01:04:18.960context to where whatever, but when I do it, I think it's perfectly valid for you to pull the
01:04:25.660same rune three times if you want to in that sequence. So it's important to remember to put
01:04:30.900it back in there. So you have the chance of, of bringing it out again. Um, yeah, I will do that.
01:04:42.140if some, I'll do that, like I said, on naming ceremonies, that's, that's the time I often do it.
01:04:47.320And I'll do it if someone asks me to. I did one. And I was, this was really cool. I was asked to
01:04:57.680do one at a wedding one time. And they wanted me to do a live room poll about their wedding. Like
01:05:05.320do it live in the middle of the ceremony, just go in cold. And
01:05:11.360first, I don't know what I'm going to get. And I don't know if it's going to be good,
01:05:20.240bad or otherwise. Secondly, I don't know how they all fit together. And I've got to spend
01:05:27.920enough time thinking on it to get the connections to to realize that you know these are powerful
01:05:35.600mysteries and it's you got to do some thinking and some meditating on these things to make a
01:05:42.400a cogent understanding of them and it was absolutely magical i forget and i hope the
01:05:51.280couple remembers what what the three runes were but they were perfect they made perfect sense it
01:05:56.880was clear as day and it was it's those subtle things like the sky doesn't open up and like
01:06:03.280the earthquake and lightning happens and when magical things happen sometimes it's just the
01:06:09.120perfect thing at the perfect moment and that's very much what this was and it was it was really
01:06:14.720kind of cool so i did it then do it at namings but i also will do it if somebody asks me if in
01:06:21.600the course of counseling or something somebody says hey gothi can you perform a rune pull for me
01:06:28.160because i have this going on in my life and i've done that a few times as well and
01:06:37.600now i don't know if people were just being nice or not but i've been surprised how much
01:06:44.720when i do that not knowing the person in their situation wanting to do it objectively
01:06:51.600how much of what I've said has connected with them when I talk about the past,
01:06:57.900when I talk about their current situation, when I talk about those two, and then, you know,
01:07:04.620confidently, and I'm not sure all the time how that's worked out for them with my third poll,
01:07:09.840but I'm surprised at how often my first two polls and my interpretation of them has been very
01:07:17.120meaningful to the people who've asked. Those are the times that I typically do a poem. Like I said,
01:07:22.680I do a sequential three-run poem. I wanted to clarify some things because I'm thinking as
01:07:28.480you're speaking about people that are listening that might not understand certain things. Like
01:07:33.040when you say draw the rune, that usage of the word, not physically drawing a picture or utilizing
01:07:39.600a pen drawing up or is like pulling or or to uh reach inside so the mechanics of what we're doing
01:07:48.480might better illuminate why we're saying certain words the idea is that you randomly pull out of a
01:07:56.400bag or out of a pouch uh pieces or slips of wood um sometimes they're randomly drawn from out or
01:08:07.040dropped out onto a cloth and then randomly drawn up the idea is that there is a random
01:08:12.320uh pulling or choosing of a tine or a stave or a stone or something with the symbol on it
01:08:21.280um and then it is interpreted though the meaning of the rune is implicated with the other uh
01:08:27.920you know, symbols with them. And then they are interpreted to reveal the auspice nature of
01:08:38.700what is to come. So for people that don't have any idea what the runes are, that's why I really
01:08:44.300wanted to clarify that. So because when someone hears the word drawing the rune, they might think
01:08:52.120physically drawing. And this is just one of the aspects of the usage of the runes. This is the,
01:08:59.540you know, the divination aspect of it in which, you know, the outcome is to see or to be
01:09:09.860given a glimpse. It can often be equated to prayer, but with an answer laid out before you.
01:09:19.280And, you know, and this style is, you know, divination or augury, auspices, the usage of the words to give out a prayer, to randomly draw in lots, and then to perceive an outcome that was fated to be read.
01:09:37.240And so one of the things that when I mentioned the reclamation, Alziaragodi's naming tradition is our naming tradition. It has expanded through the Gothar with observations to it.
01:09:52.280and so what the reclamation of that is that we are taking the runic usage and applying them to
01:10:00.440religious conduct and i think that's one unique thing that has not been done yet um it has been
01:10:08.360done loosely as uh found you know groups have tried to found things and do things or perhaps
01:10:13.720small groups or individual practitioners or or kindreds but for the first time a religious
01:10:19.400organization is utilizing and reclaiming the usage of the runes in usage of religious ceremony
01:10:26.600and it's worth also noting that when the al-sirgo is talking about um being asked to do the runes
01:10:33.720the reason one of the biggest things and i think is um is in the uh note of tacitus where he talks
01:10:41.720about um the drawing of the runes one of the key things that is said after that is that um
01:10:50.040the the signs are random and thrown onto a white cloth then the priest of the state
01:10:55.400is how he he wrote it the priest of the state if the consultation is a public one or the father
01:11:04.200or family if it father of the family if it is private that's how tacitus interpreted this
01:11:10.440situation so um oftentimes the folk can come to the gothar if the gothar is comfortable and this
01:11:18.920is part of their lore practice and belief to seek advice and counsel but not simply by the wisdom
01:11:27.240of the gothar but also by his knowledge of the runes and his ability to draw up or pull the
01:11:34.120runes and then interpret where they are going from there but every gothar has a
01:11:39.960a kind of internal set as to what exactly um is you know deserves that uh some not
01:11:47.480it's not going to be like you can go up to any gothar and say ah any of the runes pulled now
01:11:57.560oh guys are watching the youtube chat um
01:12:04.120And Githya, Githya Anna Plurd, she, she posted the runes that I pulled during their wedding.
01:12:12.440Wasn't sure I didn't want to spread anybody's business, but it was during, I was very honored.
01:12:16.620I was asked to perform Githya Anna and Gothi Jason Plurd's wedding and the rune pull and I see it and I remember it clear as day when she brings it up was really, really a good one.
01:12:29.000made a lot of sense to me then and still does now seeing it so a little show and tell thing um
01:12:36.360you guys mentioned or uh one of you and i forget who asked over on rumble talked about wanting to
01:12:41.800carve runes into wood stuff and carve the elder food or the uh folk futhark so this is an axe
01:12:50.040that i wanted uh at an auction that somebody had done the folk futhark in and you can see it turns
01:12:58.520out lovely in wood um so yeah uh just as a little side note but i also wanted to get up
01:13:09.880because fawn mentioned this that maybe some of this that we're talking about if you don't have
01:13:13.240a visual or understand and i think this is don't hesitate in the chat to ask us to clarify things
01:13:21.800that may seem really simple because those of us who've done this for a long time i think we take
01:13:27.240things for granted that maybe people don't know and so he mentioned you know drawing a room doesn't
01:13:32.600mean that i'm i'm drawing it i'm like inscribing it on something it means that i'm pulling it from
01:13:39.160something so much of our lore revolves around pulling something from somewhere else and pulling
01:13:49.960it into our reality and and like reaching in to gununga gap and pulling out from that primordial
01:13:58.840well something magical and i think that's the language that we end up using but what a lot of
01:14:05.160people do is they just have a little bag i've got a apple flavored crown royal bag and uh
01:14:11.080I've got my runes in here. As far as making runes, so cool, this one's I got. Bricano. It's
01:14:23.320a round off of a branch from a tree that was in my grandparents' yard. It was a crabapple tree,
01:14:30.480so it was a fruit-bearing tree. I don't know if you guys can see, but I mean,
01:14:36.740two decades or more ago, more than two decades ago now, I blooded my own runes. So I colored them
01:14:48.800red with my own blood, which very specifically connected them to me. Now, other people have
01:14:59.500different ideas on this, but something you'll very often run into is people who have created
01:15:04.860their own runes and a rune set and have painted them with their own blood to viscerally connect
01:15:14.700them on a primal level to that person so not only is this a lens for things within me and to focus
01:15:24.300my thoughts and my hymenia but it's literally connected to me by blood um yeah i carved it
01:15:32.860out with like a little dremel tool i used a i used a needle to fill it with uh with blood
01:15:40.780withdrawn blood everybody's got different techniques but that's you know that's what i do
01:49:24.000Yes, that interpretation of the usage of the word rune, again, that's mentioned greatly in certain books by Dr. Flowers when we're talking about the, like he has a book called Futhark, and he has another book called Rune Lore.
01:49:39.780I highly recommend rune lore if you're looking at the history of runes, not necessarily the content and the magical implications, but certainly the history of it and the usage of that word.
01:49:52.440Yes, rauna. In relation to the exact language, I don't recall off the top of my head. But yes, there are usages of the word revolving around whispering, speaking, bringing into manifestation by sound.
01:50:12.380So like a song, not in the Nordic period by that time, but in earlier times, there was the possibility of the usage of the word to roar, to shout, or to whisper, or to even, again, sing.
01:50:27.140And there's multiple Germanic sources on this Gothic language, Germanic language, and its many evolutions, Anglo-Saxon, things of that nature, and the etymology of those origins.
01:50:38.860So yes, Galder is a Nordic word in its usage mostly, and it means a spell. Sometimes it can be used to mean magic in general, and in the esoteric sense, not in the parlor kind of sense of magic.
01:50:58.360and it always equates to the idea of the formulation of intent through verbal means
01:51:04.920and so there's not always a necessity to write or inscribe or carve a room
01:51:12.320in order to gall because the the uh re-emphasis of the symbol itself may be mentally or even in
01:51:21.240a temporary medium like on a again a piece of paper that is burned but the galling is the
01:51:26.660manifestation of the sound because the root of the symbol and its meaning is predominantly
01:51:33.460in the sound itself. But Galder isn't just singularly the sound. Um, so a perfect example
01:51:42.960of this is that it's, uh, theorized by, uh, Dr. Flowers, who's Edward Thorson's pen, by his pen
01:51:48.700name, is that the ancient story of Jack and the Beanstalk and the usage of the words that were
01:51:57.720spoken by the giant when he says fee-fi-fo-fum, there is a vowel structure there that is placed
01:52:07.140along with the consonant of the F sound. So he speculated that perhaps this was a kernel of
01:52:13.060of information a kind of understanding that perhaps the way galder was um was uh you know uh
01:52:22.580theorized the way it was constructed uh or if you're looking at it more metaphysically this is
01:52:27.540the the structure of galder that was hidden whether on purpose or by divine means of the
01:52:34.020gods in order to pass down to us their structuring but galder is in its most basic sense can be the
01:52:42.180simple proto sound of a rune if there is like if i was to say the f rune and i was going to use
01:52:50.580whether we were talking about the um you know the icelandic or the anglo-saxon they would have
01:52:55.700different names but they would always start with the with the sound f that sound so the proto
01:53:02.180idea is that galder can be pronounced by resonating the simple and basic sound in its form singularly
01:53:10.980the f sound so what that could kind of for people to conceptualize whether they're watching or
01:53:16.740whether they're listening is that that that would be an idea that um perhaps upon inscribing the
01:53:22.020room there would be a pronunciation of that sound in order to kind of link those two together um
01:53:29.460and this kind of goes about with an enactment in which back to the uh the creation of of the folk
01:53:37.300when odin breathes life into the ash and the elm tree that is kind of seen as a resonation
01:53:45.780of breath and of song or of sound in uniting with and igniting the soul uh in its creation
01:53:53.860and so the fact that it was done in wood and then the runic connection of it being done in wood
01:53:59.460is not a miss so the idea is that um you can galder over the symbol in order to unify it
01:54:10.980maybe magnify it or exemplify your intended desire and so in the proto sound it could simply be that
01:54:18.020sound oftentimes too though it is made into the the the word the name now there are many different
01:54:24.740names of the runes uh we have the gothic which is most likely the oldest the anglo-saxon and the
01:54:32.420and the uh icelandic whether it's icelandic or actually the norwegian uh and then we have the
01:54:38.340reconstructed names now the reconstructed names are kind of a linguistic pull and reformulation
01:54:46.660utilizing all of the elements so what we did with the um folk food arc creating it's already been
01:54:54.100done in relation to the names of the rooms so anybody that was kind of like side glancing at
01:55:00.180like what are you guys doing well kind of already partaking in it in and of itself with the
01:55:05.460reconstructed names of the rooms some of the runes are almost identical to the gothic language
01:55:12.100because that's the oldest but others are absolutely reconstructed utilizing all of the language
01:55:19.060sequences in order to make what would be most likely a middle name or word that would linguistically
01:55:27.140travel uh adding adding the az at the end comes from the the gothic so like um ansuz
01:55:36.180um you know and the the idea that uh the gothic alphabet which utilized the runes but was written
01:55:43.620in a greek format meaning alphabetically with alpha and beta but they used their first word was
01:55:51.140answers is how it was most likely pronounced and so on sous is a derivative of that
01:55:57.460so when you say the names um again your intent is coming out so the reconstructed name is not
01:56:04.580necessarily you shouldn't view it as reconstructed means bad what it means is that we can see that
01:56:10.980the runic names have changed over time with reason and our reason is based off of linguistic knowledge
01:56:18.420is the reason why it's changed so the icelanders used a different name than the anglo-saxons
01:56:24.900and uh neither one of them is wrong it's that the the names evolved based on the
01:56:30.420the way that they were the knowledge was was uh disseminated out and for us in our age
01:56:36.500that the names of the runes came to us because of our accumulated knowledge of multiple
01:56:44.100germanic languages and that's a pretty powerful thing just to have so i think a lot of people
01:56:50.660might you know turn their nose up to these ideas but uh you know so if you say the name of the
01:56:56.020rune along with the proto sound that could be considered a galder and then galdering again can
01:57:01.860evolve it could be the proto sound it could be the name and then it could start to formulate perhaps
01:57:08.500into similar words words that have uh connection to so like uh the uses of the word fruitful
01:57:17.460in in relation to the the the rune uh fehu or fee or fae um because fae has connotations to
01:57:26.580prosperity and the word fruitful has the sound of the f in it so now we start to formulate a more
01:57:35.060complex galder uh and that really does kind of go into the flare of the usage of
01:57:41.620of when you're galder it can change based on uh how you your intent as i was here to go the asset
01:57:49.540when you go into with it when you're intent you're constructing and manifesting a willful desire
01:57:54.500the galder does not have to simply be the names of the runes or simply the proto sound
01:57:59.780it could be a poem in which the usage of the of the sound is maybe alliteratively repeated
01:58:06.500with the intention so then we get into poetics and songs like in in the the halvamal when when
01:58:14.340odin says he knows the songs of the runes he's speaking of complex uh recipes or equations or
01:58:22.820whatever you want to call it in order to attain a an outcome all right appreciate you covering some
01:58:33.940time there for me uh my daughter is three years old and so sometimes especially if she doesn't
01:58:42.020take a nap in the evening random things vex her they vex her greatly and that's a little bit
01:58:48.660trying to give my wife a little bit of a break and calm it down a little bit
01:58:52.020it worked for a minute and then it didn't and i think she's calm again right now hopefully going
01:58:56.420to sleep the news you can use all right so next question are there any afa-approved organizations
01:59:05.620that are working in parallel to the afa i know several outs of true organizations that seem
01:59:11.540embarrassed their ancestors were european um the the short answer is no if you are practicing
01:59:20.820alsatru you should be practicing with the afa um it's not what everybody wants to hear but it's
01:59:28.660true and i mean it with all my heart because we're doing it right and if i felt that wasn't
01:59:33.540the case and there was another organization that was we would all join that um we are much more
01:59:41.060effective when we're doing this together and uh no i think the afa is doing this the right way
01:59:47.860we have the lineage behind us we have the time in gift cycle with the gods that i think is
01:59:57.060is lacking a lot of these other organizations um there are other organizations that i think are
02:00:03.140are swell folks and i mentioned some of those on our last broadcast um mainly folks doing this
02:00:10.020this internationally um we have members in 14 different countries but the vast vast majority
02:00:17.860of our membership is in the united states we would love to build overseas but i know there are
02:00:24.260organizations in europe that are doing this or something you know along these lines there that
02:00:31.620i'm sure doing a fine job i've mentioned some german gentlemen that and their families that
02:00:38.980i met up with when i was in sweden for an afa moot over there and they're part of the arts
02:00:43.940gemeinschaft and they seemed to be great people and sounds like they've got something good going
02:00:50.020on over there i don't know all the specifics um might butcher this so i apologize to our spanish
02:00:58.740speaking audience but the comunidad de odinista in spain is doing cool stuff um i think we'd all
02:01:08.020be better if we were we were on one team under one banner doing this but uh i they might say the same
02:01:14.980um but yeah as far as in a meta sense on parallel tracks there may very well be other groups of
02:01:21.940people doing cultural things that are similar to the goals that we have that are great i'm not
02:01:29.540sure what what that would be but that makes sense there may be people doing cultural or musical
02:01:36.500things or performance things or poetry things things in a broader sphere that are parallel
02:01:42.660to what we're doing but if you're doing also true you should be doing it here
02:01:47.380and i believe that with all my heart or i wouldn't be doing what i'm doing and uh
02:01:55.620yeah not sure what more what more to say on that other than i saw over in the chat
02:02:02.660uh maurice you mentioned that you probably or might be joining the afa at some point because
02:02:07.620we seem legitimate i'm glad that you think that i would encourage you to do that and i look forward
02:02:14.980to look forward to submitting an application and joining us if that's the route you decide to go
02:02:23.780oh go ahead i think there was a question that was skipped i was going back to look
02:02:30.100and um based on the question was just asked and uh i see one by europa but the uh can we get a
02:02:37.060list of must-have books and i know you i don't so that did not come up in the order of questions
02:02:44.100that producer nick fed me it may be down on the list though i'm not sure if he shuffled that in
02:02:49.780at a different time um but that's fine if we want to throw that in there though before i transition
02:02:55.940to something new what was the question as aha there it is he asked cool gentlemen great topic
02:03:04.020as usual can we get a list of must-have books for rune study it's fun what are your what are
02:03:10.020your must-have rune books i i well there's a long list of that but i would say for a beginner
02:03:17.780uh my absolute number one recommendation is to get this book the complete illustrated
02:03:25.780guide to the runes by nigel pennick this is a this is a really kind of one that i don't i don't think
02:03:32.660a lot of people see coming or or know about but nigel pennick is along with uh dr flowers has been
02:03:40.740in this subject for a very long time and and um he does a great job of giving you an overview
02:03:47.940of runic magic runic divination uh and all of the futharks that are in there a lot of people um
02:03:56.420incessantly go on about how the the usage of certain futharks indicate us as being you know
02:04:03.060again the big spooky nazis or or what have you without an understanding that the um the third
02:04:11.300Reich used German runes from a Futhark that was found in Germany from the Middle Ages. And it was
02:04:18.340only 16 runes, I believe, or perhaps, sorry, it may have been 10 runes. And they were bind runes
02:04:26.180by that point. And the rune I'm talking about, of course, is Erdra. A lot of the universalist
02:04:33.460kind of folks that we run into on the internet, this is an evil rune. If the Othala rune has
02:04:41.080feet on it it's because they're evil and uh that's not true it comes from a manuscript it is the
02:04:47.640urger room and i think that anyone in germany especially militaristically utilizing it for
02:04:52.920symbology and with the intent like you had said logos oftentimes have been used um to inspire or
02:04:59.800to you know with bind rooms and things like that um they don't come from nowhere and so a lot of
02:05:05.880these people are speaking from ignorance and one of the most the best spot that comes from that
02:05:12.120which is plainly lays it out for people with no bias just explains it all is this book with lots
02:05:20.120of pictures for people who don't you know maybe they need a break from just reading all the time
02:05:24.920and it does it has some great images from rune stones and um uh archaeological finds and uh
02:05:33.960diagrams and things from from all of the runic eras that we we have discussed
02:05:42.280so my recommendations are for the literate
02:05:48.200picture books of runes honestly they're not my first one that
02:05:53.960it's it's an asterisk on whether it's a must-have if you're really new to this or if you're a
02:05:59.480younger person i think that it's the best primer um for it is the runes workbook by leon wilde
02:06:08.680and one of the things i like the most about it is its illustrations its illustrations are really cool
02:06:14.040and uh i don't know if you've looked at them swan but they see
02:06:19.240you would do they're pictures that incorporate an idea and they like to use
02:06:23.800detail in the picture to illustrate kind of to tell a story within a single image
02:06:28.600um but i think that's a really really good one um as far as for people who are more familiar with it
02:06:36.920and i got in trouble on here i say got in trouble i ruffled some feathers on here
02:06:42.280when i talked extensively about dr flowers stephen flowers also known as edward thorson um
02:06:50.440Um, again, the guy I'm not advocating his existence or his moral authority or anything
02:10:36.500the reason why i really because i knew you were gonna um mention the runic workbook and i thought
02:10:41.540that those two books are would be extremely pivotal to anyone who was looking into starting
02:10:47.860the runes and are brand new to it and then yeah if you are further on i would say uh just from
02:10:53.940a historical perspective runelore uh encapsulates the entirety of of the ages of runes and and makes
02:11:01.940a person who's interested in the runes kind of see the large perspective of of how they've evolved
02:11:07.380and how they've been used and and when you get people that don't know you can really after
02:11:12.260reading that book you can really kind of pick up that they don't kind of understand the big picture
02:11:18.340in relation because he just laid out so much great information so another thing that i'll plug
02:11:26.260and because tonight we're talking probably more than we have any other episode about
02:11:30.420about magic practice and some of the more deep esoterics and it's not that those things aren't
02:11:39.300extremely important but so many people put the heart the cart before the horse those things
02:11:46.020come after you have context and they're very much after you're solidified in the exoterics
02:11:55.020of us as a religion and as a faith they're they're much you need that foundation first
02:12:02.060and that is the most important once you have that then incorporating magical practices
02:12:10.460and and the deeper esoterics they can be great but we want to make sure the foundation is there
02:12:16.860first so we don't really you know toss that around willy-nilly um that said if you are interested
02:12:23.820in developing and strengthening your hymenia and your your magical might and versatility i'd say
02:12:34.300that the nine doors of midgard is a really good book now it is the like the the entrance course
02:12:44.140material if you wanted to be part of the rune guild but it is completely and totally usable
02:12:51.260and accessible if you have no interest in being part of that organization it's very solid the
02:12:57.500techniques in it are very very good and i i would suggest that you know if you do that you can't
02:13:05.340just read it like a book it's not intended for that it's a course of study and a course of self
02:13:12.620transformation and it takes quite a long time to work through all the processes especially if you
02:13:18.780do them the way the book suggests but slow and steady wins the race on that one and if that's
02:13:25.500something that you have an interest in i would definitely check that one out what's up next on
02:13:35.500our list all right matt svan how are the glyphs named did the names correspond to the original
02:13:44.940sources of the glyphs used and i think spawn went into this a little bit earlier again i was i was
02:13:53.260quelling the rebellion of a angry disgruntled three-year-old so have you have you did you
02:14:02.060exhaust this or is there more to say on this fun uh there is a little bit more to say i just kind
02:14:06.780of lightly hinted on the idea that that the the names that you will find and again most people
02:14:12.220that have naysaying against um dr flowers don't realize that the food tharks that they're using
02:14:19.100are dr flowers is food tharks because if without a an understanding is that uh you know the the um
02:14:27.660basically uh edrid thorson or dr flowers when he created is the food tharks that we're utilizing
02:14:35.020there are two food tharks and neither of them are exactly like the ones that are kind of generally
02:14:41.420accepted by everyone today the kelver stone is has uh you know two or four depending on
02:14:49.820you're talking to runes flipped and the vet's done a break day has uh two runes flipped as well
02:14:56.940so it it looks like the the the formulation of in his studies he he combined the two futharks of
02:15:04.620the kelver stone and the vet's done a break day to create the elder futhark as we see it today
02:15:11.100because the calverstone has two um the uh the iwaz rune and the yira rune are flipped in the
02:15:21.180calverstone which was inscribed in 400 um and edward reset those because the vat stenebrekte
02:15:31.900has those in that order but he left the othla and dagas flipped so this is clearly him creating kind
02:15:39.260of like the hybridization of the futhark's construction um between those two and then
02:15:46.460when we talk about the naming of the runes it depends if you look at the anglo-saxon the anglo
02:15:52.700saxon rune poems are very interesting because they have christian overtones and their titles
02:15:59.340are in anglo-saxon and some of them are still um controversial in their origins as to what exactly
02:16:06.700they mean. If you have the Old Norse Icelandic rune poems, they are there, but the Norse
02:16:17.700reduced their alphabet or reduced the Futharks down into 16 runes. And this has perplexed people
02:16:25.020on many different levels, from runic knowledge to just alphabetical linguistics. It doesn't make a
02:16:30.700lot of sense for any group to reduce their writing system down. And that's what they did.
02:16:35.880So when you have the names of the of the Icelandic rune poems, you have these kind of, you know, deeply unmolested titled rune, you know, they're not molested by Christianity or anything of that nature, but there's only 16 of them.
02:16:50.960So there's a ton of them missing. Now, the words themselves exist in the in the Icelandic language, but then the runes are mixed around.
02:16:59.840so the uh the manas rune of the elder ends up becoming um uh mother in the icelandic but they
02:17:07.620use a totally different symbol so when you're talking about the names of the runes anglo-saxon
02:17:14.640um you know uh uh nordic whether it's swedish or norwegian or icelandic or if we're talking
02:17:24.080about the gothic language which is greatly overlooked the gothic language that we know of
02:17:30.800was written down or formulated in a greek sense so alpha beta you know it went abc it wasn't in
02:17:38.240the traditional futhark sense however it is deeply influenced by the writing system of the goths
02:17:44.640which is runic. And it was written by a Christian named Uphilos. And he wanted to write down the
02:17:54.260book of Matthew in Gothic. And he did so. And that's where a lot of the Gothic language survives
02:18:00.080from. But it's worth noting that he wrote it down in a hybridized version of Greek and runic.
02:18:08.320And he also named those letters. So when we look at, for instance, in modern reconstructed runic word for the A rune is ansus, but in the Gothic, it's ansus, and it means ancestors, whereas in the Anglo-Saxon, it's os, O-S-S, which means the estuary or mouth of a river.
02:18:35.100so the names that we use you can pull from many different sources but generally we have a
02:18:41.820neutral usage of the reconstructed words because these are the ones that most everyone knows
02:18:47.660that were pretty much set out by runologists and kind of again formulated and hardened out by
02:18:55.780early rune um practitioners like steven flowers as edward thorson and nigel pennick kind of
02:19:02.860deciding to use the reconstructed names and so you get the names like tiwas and manas and dagas
02:19:11.980instead of for instance day or day in the in old norse um uh so we have this kind of it becomes the
02:19:23.080uh the the reconstructed names are the the uh most utilized naming system for when we're writing
02:19:30.440about the runes when we're discussing about the magic and again the reason why i emphasize that
02:19:35.000it's important that it's we understand that the reconstructed isn't lesser than the older names
02:19:41.320those names were formulated by the way they were learned we learned from accumulation of all of
02:19:46.280that knowledge so they have great importance so i would say any book that you find on the elder
02:19:51.720futhark that uses if they're honest and they say reconstructed name uh but most of the time they
02:19:59.080don't they just use it as the name uh you will find that is the most common use titles of the
02:20:06.120rooms um you'll find people that might use the the armanin the the younger or the anglo-saxon
02:20:15.160names because of preference but even they still have to kind of look at the reconstructed names
02:20:22.280when they're researching the runes or at least researching people's interpretations of the rooms
02:20:29.080So that's, that's the finite answer to that.
02:30:30.900first you bring a spiritual gravitas to this like nobody else that i've seen and it's
02:30:43.780it impresses everyone it impresses like you are by far the go-to guest on this you do things but
02:30:52.800to like people that have been doing this for a very long time Sheila McNallan specifically
02:30:59.960Githia McNallan just thinks that you are the greatest thing since sliced bread like
02:31:05.520this she is a big swan fan and has been from day one because the way you um
02:31:14.960first you have a depth and breadth of the lore that is you know unsurpassed but beyond that you have
02:31:25.520you have put it into such a spiritual and religious context in your life that you're
02:31:36.120able to make use of that lore as opposed to just regurgitate it but the way that your
02:31:42.880mind works and that you explain things and you do things is spot on it is absolutely
02:31:51.360it is solid gold and it contrasts with mine it doesn't conflict with in any way but it fills
02:32:05.320gaps that's one of the really good things you are i feel like our strengths and weaknesses in a lot
02:32:12.360of ways complement each other really well and i think that's what allows us to have a six hour
02:32:18.220conversation and feel like you know it was no big deal but so how do i feel being a year into this
02:32:25.260man i i love this i love everything about it i always sound goofy happy when i do this but that's
02:32:31.980because i literally look forward to it all week um as you can tell spawn's one of my my dearest
02:32:37.900friends i love talking to him everybody i bring on there's some people i don't have a particularly
02:32:43.980like long relationship with sometimes we'll bring on apprentice folk builders or folks
02:32:48.780that i just haven't known for that long but all in all these are all people i like and i enjoy
02:32:53.660talking to um so it's fun for me and what i'm very appreciative of is we've gotten a lot of
02:33:02.780people to join and talk about how vns has really changed their life and has brought them to also
02:33:08.300true has taught them about our faith in a way that hadn't reached these people before and i'm
02:33:17.100really really proud of that and i'm just humbled that we've got such an audience of people that
02:33:22.620tune in every week and i really appreciate that it's it's really special i feel
02:33:28.620it helps me too. I do this, I do this 100% of the time. And, you know, I say that there's time
02:33:39.260I'm doing other stuff, but I do it at least 90% of the time, I feel like. And, you know,
02:33:48.920I've gotten it to where when somebody says, hey, Matt, how are you doing? I give them a report on
02:33:53.900state of the afa rather than you know my back hurts i'm like oh we got three new members today
02:34:00.220and you know i yep because this because this is my life um but no i was thinking about that today
02:34:07.580because you know today's my birthday and it's you know a time to reflect and people you know
02:34:11.420ask how i'm doing or like how was your birthday i don't work too hard like no my birthday would
02:34:15.980suck if i wasn't doing afa stuff this is if i wasn't i'd be stressing about the afa stuff not
02:34:22.220getting done so being able to went on a on a tangent there being able to communicate this way
02:34:32.700is really special to me because you may have noticed i don't have any outs of true books out
02:34:40.460there i'm not that guy i don't write well i don't feel like i can when i sit down to write something
02:34:46.860i think i can write a really good paragraph but man it's rough if i'm gonna write a really good
02:34:53.180page and to try to write a really good chapter is just kind of beyond my current skill set
02:34:59.980but i can talk on here for hours and hours and hours and get it all out and it sounds like a
02:35:07.100lot of you find find it useful or if not useful at least entertaining and i appreciate our audience
02:35:13.580so i'm i i love it i'm i'm really happy this is one of the more effective and better things that
02:35:21.180that i've done um what to look for in this future um not sure we're gonna get to a point where i'm
02:35:29.400gonna ask for ideas on shows because you know as far as completely new ideas sometimes it's hard
02:35:37.500to cover one of the best things about the show though is even if we start out with an idea that's
02:35:42.340that's whatever that we put out there. The questions are what make the show. The quote
02:35:47.680unquote topic of the show, like tonight, we're having a lot of runic questions. But you'll see
02:35:52.500on the hero episodes, sometimes we won't get a question at all about the hero, and we'll just
02:35:56.460talk about stuff. And because AUSA True isn't locked in the past, it's something that we're
02:36:04.020currently doing. There's always things to talk about. So I don't know, I'm looking forward to
02:36:10.640getting this on more platforms that interact with more people and finding a bigger, better
02:36:18.800audience. I say better, and that's not right, but a bigger audience for this. One of the hardest
02:36:24.040things that I've found in my time in the AFA, specifically in my time, well, all my time in
02:36:30.260the AFA has been folk building at least. We have this bubble and getting outside that bubble to
02:36:39.820folks that haven't any familiarity about AUSA True and maybe aren't in the circles that we all
02:36:45.960run in, that's the challenge. So I really hope that some of these broadcasts within the next
02:36:52.380year and in the future can get out to different groups of people that have never heard about this
02:36:57.280before and i'm excited to see how that develops um next question is do either of you have a
02:37:09.360favored rune swan what's your favorite room i'm looking for right now actually because i saw that
02:37:15.360question coming up i was like oh that's a good one uh yes i do they're all the mysteries of the
02:37:21.680runes are you know across the board by far my favorite and most i think the mysterious there's
02:37:28.240there's two of them that are very very mysterious and um but and their relation to each other
02:37:34.560according to history like just what i said about the uh kelver stone and the vetsna break day and
02:37:39.360their their numeric switches and things like that but perthro is one but this is absolutely my my
02:37:47.760favorite rune iwas uh whether you see it in this kind of hooked formulation or whether you see it
02:37:55.280perhaps in the um the uh three facing down sometimes called the death rune um iwas is my
02:38:03.760favorite because of its it's um the mystery even the phonetics um and even even dr flowers in his
02:38:11.520books talks about the uncertainty of the phonetic usage throughout history makes it kind of
02:38:18.000mysterious um uh as well but yes it is my favorite room he was the you the you tree uh for anybody
02:38:27.600you know y-e-w the english usage of the tree the eu tree um it's called the eu tree or the eu rune
02:38:36.240And it is, yeah, connected to about the movement of up and down, the idea of the movement between the upper, the middle and the lower, its connections to death and its connections to the cycle of understanding.
02:38:51.400So it's kind of a combination of cosmic order and natural law right in the center of the Futhark.
02:39:05.040it's it's truly an interesting rune based also on the rune before it and the rune after it
02:39:11.120just planting those seeds out there so if you want to go look
02:39:14.800and consider those kind of are the revelations of that but yes that is my favorite room you know i
02:39:23.840i'm not it i'm gonna pick one because that's the point of the question i'm not gonna dodge
02:39:29.120the question but but i don't um i don't have a favorite room i i mean i do because you're asking
02:39:41.200me to pick one and i can pick one but at different times of my life especially when i was newer to
02:39:48.000alsatru i'd have one room that would be you know particularly like that's my jam right then
02:39:55.120but they're part of a connected system and so there's not really one that doesn't connect
02:40:03.800with the other and it's like what's okay this is literally it's not because as i've mentioned
02:40:10.680there's more depth to the runes but like what's your favorite letter in the alphabet
02:40:14.120it's kind of a strange question and that's the runes are such a part of of my life at this point
02:40:23.940it feels like that a little bit but i'd say my favorite rune is rhido and uh for all the
02:40:31.300reasons that we use it as the the sigil of our priesthood um for its idea of right action at
02:40:40.420the right time for its connection to knighthood and nobility and the man upon the horse riding
02:40:47.060forward nobly um there's a lot of a lot of things that i've attached to it and hitch my cart to that
02:40:55.140i think are are really special so i'd have to go with that one was that pun intended too the hitch
02:41:00.580in your cart the wagon right that's that's all right a little bit um seeds getting dropped in
02:41:09.700there do what i can so the speed i got it all right so um we have a a super chat over on entropy
02:41:18.900and i really really appreciate that fifty dollars thank you so much um will you ever attempt to
02:41:25.780interview the host of survive the jive i want to see what he thinks about also true and i'd
02:41:31.140love to simply see the interview i think also true so complex question
02:41:41.540i would really like okay i would be very happy to talk to uh thomas
02:41:50.660at any point he would like to talk to me um
02:41:54.420Um, the rest of it is complex. Um, I actually got to meet him once at a
02:42:08.600Northwest forum event put on by counter currents. Uh, and he was a great guy,
02:42:16.480really nice guy to talk to. I, I don't have any negative view of him and I don't want to put that
02:42:23.880out. I don't have random guests on the program. The guests that I have are all leaders one way
02:42:39.980or another in our church, because this is a, you know, a church broadcast of the AFA.
02:42:46.420i think that thomas is really interesting when it comes to
02:42:56.100ancient anglo-saxons and how they practiced things but i think he deliberately
02:43:12.020there's no way to say it that doesn't sound insulting but i i like the guy
02:43:16.420Um, it's offensive that he pretends that people have not been practicing also true now for 60 years. People have put so much blood, sweat and tears into this in that time that to deliberately neglect to recognize that that's a thing.
02:43:45.420is a deliberate omission that's really unfortunate because the circles he's in,
02:43:53.300he knows better than that. And again, I think he's one of those guys that practices,
02:43:59.540and I don't mean to question his faith because I think that he is a pagan of some sort or feels
02:44:09.160that he is but i've never heard of him talk about our gods in a truly religious context
02:44:18.840i hear him talk about them in a academic context and i don't think what we're doing isn't academics
02:44:27.560i think there's a time and a place for that and i think academics can inform some of our practice
02:44:33.400but we are we are a religion we have a relationship with our gods that we've been building
02:44:40.840in one way or another for almost 60 years it'll be 59 years here at some point very soon when
02:44:47.800steve mcnalen first established his relationship with the all-father and brought us modern
02:44:56.280also true as we know today the afa itself has been around for 28 and a half years at this point
02:45:05.320um so no i don't think we would have i i don't think i'd invite uh thomas rousel on this
02:45:13.720program i'd be happy to talk to him in another context at any point in time and uh think he's
02:45:20.040a good guy i'm not i don't have anything against him i'd be glad to have him on the show if he
02:45:24.760If he decided to join the Alice True Folk Assembly, he is he's certainly welcome to come on as a guest at that point.
02:45:30.440But if he doesn't, then I don't really think this is an appropriate venue for an interview like that.
02:45:40.380But like I say, really, really good guy.
02:45:43.520When I met him, I don't have anything bad to say about him on a personal level.
02:45:48.160And yeah, please. I don't want that to be taken any more negatively than than it needs to be.
02:45:54.760um why are the runes why are rune pulls done sometimes at the end of wayfarers bloat and not
02:46:02.520every time because we have different gothar performing that bloat i think that you have been
02:46:11.960at a number of wayfarers bloats uh the person who asked this question has been a number of
02:46:17.080wayfarers bloats performed by sheila mcnalen and githy mcnalen likes to do that more than some other
02:46:25.880people do um and so i think that's the lens you're seeing it in i think it's done
02:46:34.040well you know i i think it's fairly rare when that's done in a wayfarer's bloat
02:46:38.680i don't think there's anything wrong with that certainly i think it gives you
02:46:43.000what's kind of cool for it in a wayfarer's bloat is it gives you something to ponder that you take
02:46:49.880away from whatever event you're at so it you leave on a note where you have something to think about
02:46:57.960something to meditate on something to go through that process of thinking how that plays out in
02:47:04.680your life what that relevance is to you and i think it's kind of a cool thing in that way
02:47:09.880but the reason it's sometimes and not always is that's not the purpose of the wayfarer's bloat
02:47:15.400that's a great addition to a wayfarer's bloat absolutely but the purpose of the wayfarer's bloat
02:47:22.120is to keep the people safe as they travel home to wherever they're going
02:47:28.040so that's the key purpose and that needs to be at every single wayfarer's bloat is invoking
02:47:33.960one or more of our gods to protect the people there as they leave the event and go home.
02:47:42.580Anything beyond that is kind of an extra. And that's what that is. It's a really cool extra.
02:47:47.900And I love when Sheila does that. I always spend a good portion after that contemplating whatever
02:47:54.120room that i that i pull um what are your thoughts on runes being used in tattoos
02:48:07.560i have nothing against it i don't think there's anything wrong with it i also have zero tattoos
02:48:11.960so i'm not an expert on that subject svan as a man with with ink from a man what are your thoughts
02:48:19.320what are your thoughts um it depends again uh i would say first and foremost it's worth noting that
02:48:29.000are you a are you taking you could take the runes and apply them to attack in tattoo format
02:48:36.600for various reasons for instance if you are ethnically a teutonic germanic arian and you
02:48:44.840want to honor your ancestors by placing runes upon your body that is 100 within your right to
02:48:52.680do so i think it's kind of a you know again it's it's that that question of like well is it okay
02:48:58.120to get like ancient japanese or chinese uh pictogriffs or glyphs on you or or whatever
02:49:05.160but you know so if you're doing it from a traditional standpoint i think really you
02:49:09.640You don't even have to be beholden into the devotion and worship of the gods to own those symbols that are intrinsically and culturally ours.
02:49:23.540But if you're coming at it from a religious standpoint, yeah, I think it's worth having some context as to exactly how you're applying them.
02:49:31.240Um, but if you're talking about the manifestation of, uh, the rune itself and its power, I come from a school of runic thought that you have to follow specific steps in order to manifest the runic power correctly.
02:49:50.260And this is taking place, you know, in the Havamal when it is asked, do you know how to sacrifice them? Do you know how to gift them? That stanza is talking about the creation of the runes in my runic school of study.
02:50:07.580so by doing so you are in essence enacting various parts of the runic um structure the recipe the
02:50:17.980the entirety of the equation uh but not entirely if you if you're getting it done by an artist who
02:50:23.580doesn't know the runes he's simply or she's simply just tracing and copying there's a a factor there
02:50:31.180in which there's the galder is not being spoken and so the the power manifestation of those runes
02:50:36.700i believe are not in their fullest formulation there are key components that are there but the
02:50:45.500intrinsic equation to create the absolute desired outcome are not entirely there so i don't take much
02:50:54.300um offense or i guess offense is not the right word but it's like when i see runes on on people
02:51:01.180you know i don't go oh you you need to be careful what you inscribe on your body because you
02:51:06.460yes that wisdom is good but the entirety of the formulation is not fully there
02:51:12.700um you know if if you had a vitki or a magus or a a person who is wise in this way and they
02:51:21.740could tattoo and sing the galder and um you know do the proper steps then then you could manifest
02:51:29.260the rune in a in a magical sense but the the the runes themselves have that gray zone
02:51:36.700if you're intending to have a magical effect you need to have a vitki who can tattoo and
02:51:44.300speak the galder and know what the rune means as opposed to just going to a tattoo parlor and
02:51:49.020saying hey write this up because it's gonna you know um give me lots of money or something like
02:51:56.140you know it's like that that's what this uh bind room is the internet told me that this bind room
02:52:00.460gives me lots of money so rando person at this place can you put it on my arm um that kind of
02:52:06.940stuff i don't think works out the way people may want to um and so between those two lines i think
02:52:15.020most people are getting them as an expression of honor towards the gods or towards their ancestors
02:52:21.580or towards their ethnic heritage and i think that that's absolutely okay i think that our ancestors
02:52:27.900uh and it's been remarked numerous times have done that i would also say western civilization
02:52:35.500it's important to deeply consider what you're getting done and where you're getting it done
02:52:41.980i don't have any tattoos beyond my uniform lines is the the military term for it is you know not
02:52:49.660having uh you know whether you're wearing short sleeve or long sleeve the idea is that you don't
02:52:55.340you know need to have uh tattoos beyond your uniform lines because they do have cultural
02:53:01.020context within our i guess the the overall culture so consider that i think that's important
02:53:07.900um having them on your hands and having them above your neckline and things like that um
02:53:12.780you know, we can say, you know, nowadays it doesn't matter. I mean, it does. It does matter.
02:53:21.300And no matter how many times people gnash their teeth at it, I think it's worth noting. So have
02:53:26.880consideration as to where you put it, but have pride in what you put on you and have some
02:53:32.940forethought. Seek out counsel. Ask people, ask the Gothar, what do you think about these runes
02:53:39.200this bind rune i'm thinking about placing it on my skin and i think that the wisdom of and the
02:53:44.800counsel of the ghost gothar will can help shed some light on that but as far as doing it i don't
02:53:51.840i don't i think it's perfectly fine it's just you should have wisdom in everything you do
02:53:55.920and that this is no different so swan i'm gonna let you go first on this next one also so
02:54:04.000how do you meditate on the how do you meditate on the rooms okay um uh depending if i'm talking
02:54:18.560about formal in the formal meditational practice that i do um as it was taught to me um the general
02:54:27.840ideas that i sit in a comfortable chair usually oftentimes with no back so it's like a stool um
02:54:36.800it's mentioned as the thuler's chair the stool um with a back straight and and feet firmly
02:54:45.040planted on the ground hands placed upon my thighs and a breathing process is brought about um and i
02:54:54.000attempt to gain a rhythm of breathing and then i start by galdering the rune um in the set form
02:55:04.240formula that i was taught and then i hold that image in my mind and i then try to silence myself
02:55:13.600and leave the vacuum of the noise that i created to to ruminate on the the rune itself sometimes
02:55:23.680i try to hold the image as long as i can without any uh enticement of thought i just try to hold
02:55:31.360image and sound other times i open myself up to the inclinations of what my my mind my my my huer
02:55:41.280is fanciful to do which is to look for symbols signs and connectivity and and maybe i interpret
02:55:48.960things out of it sometimes it's pulling from my mini my memory and it's just kind of re-invoking
02:55:55.760ideas and then from those things i i try to ponder while walking while waiting while while moving
02:56:02.640around in the world after the meditative practice i try to think about what that might mean and
02:56:10.800sometimes it comes to revelations of thought and sometimes it doesn't but um yeah i i formally sit
02:56:17.920down and do this and generally i do it with one rune and i do it um with the with the intent of
02:56:26.000doing uh to hold that thought all day so my meditative practices can take anywhere from a
02:56:31.680minute to uh sometimes i've lost almost an hour on a singular room without quite really realizing
02:56:38.320the time lapse um but that's how i i meditate is to me it's it has to be this way it's it's a
02:56:46.480formalized, um, tradition that was set before me. So oftentimes in order for me to broach and
02:56:53.640the, the, the sacred and to leave away the mundane, I have to do these steps. I have to
02:57:00.800sit down. I have to place my hands on my lap. I have to have no backer on the chair. I have to
02:57:05.520start breathing. I have to induct the, uh, the galder, see the symbol. And then the meditation
02:57:12.620begins. I believe very heavily in formulaic orthopraxy because I believe that when you have
02:57:19.780a formula that it can help you separate yourself from the mundane. It's kind of like having an
02:57:27.360airstrip in which your plane takes off from. So you need to have all of the ideas of where you're
02:57:36.060going, the headwinds, have communication to the tower, you have to have your fuel inset.
02:57:41.400everything has to be set and you go through this process and then you take off and it allows that
02:57:46.260kind of freedom to meditate whether you're trying to hold focus or be influenced by imagery that's
02:57:53.820how I do it so I typically do like I said earlier on divination or anything else I like the three
02:58:09.480rune deal. I like the progressive three rune sequential thing for whatever I do. As far as
02:58:19.060runic meditation, I haven't done this in a while and I need to and I've been thinking about
02:58:26.060doing a couple more of these intentionally again. I like to do my stuff at night. Some people really
02:58:35.000like to do these things in the morning i think it just depends on you know how you're wired
02:58:41.720personally at night i feel more i don't know spiritually in tune i guess um not a real morning
02:58:51.000person per se um so at night after you know everybody else has gone to bed and i've got
02:59:02.760But because you really, especially me, I've got a lot of things on my mind and I'm easily
02:59:08.400distracted because there's a lot going on.
03:06:41.540you know you can apply them depending on what you're doing uh spawn what are your thoughts
03:06:46.500yeah you kind of actually something you just said uh kind of pinged into my head uh to
03:06:52.260to help uh it's synonymous with what you're saying is a perfect example the inguas rune
03:06:58.980inguas rune is could be absolutely associated with the lord fray ing or the lord ing um
03:07:05.780Um, but you could absolutely apply it to say the Lord Vidar and his encapsulation space
03:07:14.960in which he releases corrective action and corrective, um, fate, corrective or law at
03:07:21.920the correct moment at when the gods need him to, to, to, uh, set asunder the, the chaos
03:07:31.140wolf um i had a question about that too because somebody was talking about the the the rune
03:07:37.460soul willow or the rune soul or the rune um saul the the sun rune and and and also to understand
03:07:45.940that that rune doesn't necessarily only connect itself to to soul or to suna or to the sun
03:07:52.580but to light and also to the um the the meaning of it is like the uh the uh
03:08:00.420uh what would be the the banishment of snakes it's it's mentioned in the uh poem is that you
03:08:06.740know the the the shadows do not sit long and it banishes snakes and it melts ice and so suddenly
03:08:13.380there's a poetic meaning that's intrinsically encapsulated in the meaning of the rune so
03:08:20.580So somebody was asking, like, well, okay, so if Sunnah or the sun or soul or light has a rune, so clearly in the Futhark, what would be the rune for the moon?
03:08:34.740And that's, I was like, wow, that's a great question.
03:08:36.960I mean, I would say, like, even though Dayur or Dagaz, the dawn rune, is called the dawn rune, what it is greatly influencing is about the turning of light into, or turning from darkness into light.
03:08:52.840And, I mean, clearly when you think about the waxing and waning of the moon and the cycles of light that happen around us, it could have importance there, even though it's called the day rune or the dawn rune.
03:09:06.960Or perhaps we could look at Ewa's, the rune of the horse. The rider and horse are united in teamwork, moving along the corrective path.
03:09:16.960So like I was trying to formulate connections based off of interpretations. And you can do this greatly because the gods do have a lot of those connections.
03:09:29.140if we talk about the the gift rune and we think about the sacrifice that ovin did in order to
03:09:35.060find the runes then if you think about the sacrifice of tier and his hand to the wolf
03:09:43.220uh or the or you i i actually add in uh the mural at murzhof um the central rune in there is
03:09:52.100uh the gift rune and it's it shows the uniting factor between the vanir and the icier and they're
03:10:00.260they're coming to um equilibrium together where the cosmic law and that i mean a cosmic order
03:10:07.460natural law come into alignment and i use that rune as the symbolic of that meaning
03:10:12.820especially considering that the in the uh runes the way that they're written um the gift rune
03:10:19.060the the rune that follows that is the joy room so i really wanted to encapsulate the idea that after
03:10:25.780they had made truce there was a golden age of unification amongst the gods that led to to joy
03:10:33.860to wunyo so you can it's really about i think understanding your interpretations and finding
03:10:42.500your intent and seeking those things but not to pigeonhole the gods into saying well the only
03:10:49.540color that that odin wears is dark blue if he wears anything else he's not oh then he's not it's
03:10:54.740not olden if it's not rams for thor then it's not thor it's like oh god please stop like
03:11:04.820these symbols are are for us to better understand and relate to the gods what the gods
03:11:11.620can have whatever they want as far as their the the symbols of them um so yeah the runes have
03:11:20.340multiple meanings it's just really about your interpretations and understanding
03:11:24.020i consider the the uh runes number nine number ten and number eleven uh which are the first three
03:11:31.220runes of the second etud which we we haven't gone into yet but the the families separate the elder
03:11:37.620of food truck is separated into three families and the first three runes of the second family
03:11:43.540or etud um i call those the nornir runes which is the hail rune the need rune and the ice rune
03:11:51.220and that's because my that that was how it was taught to me um and so i often associate those
03:11:56.900with the nornir and they come after the age of peace when the gods create and and have the gift
03:12:04.020rune there's an age of joy and happiness and then from the east three thirst maidens come
03:12:11.460and it is the nornir and so the second ethor it ends up coming after the peace of the gods
03:12:17.220and they show up and so the the story that that's taking place in the futark is
03:12:23.380encapsulated kind of symbolically and you know as we go there's more but that's that's what i mean
03:12:28.740you can find meaning even though those three runes have no specific connection written in
03:12:35.620relation to the nornir i was taught because of viewing the the futhark in a kind of uh epochs
03:12:44.740and story uh ages the the three nornir um kind of coming together has significance and so they've
03:12:53.380always been encapsulated for me in those three rooms even though it doesn't outright say this is
03:12:58.100the the nornir um do you believe that there are runes lost to time or runic mysteries
03:19:28.980yes but you and i hope that you're still around um i would have answered if i would have seen
03:19:35.140this question come through i would have answered it immediately and moved it up in the line and
03:19:39.060i'm sorry for that um if you're still around and i'm not sure if you are if you could give
03:19:45.220us his name i think it'd be much more effective in making prayers towards
03:19:52.340i think depending upon the nature of his mental illness that's going on that he's
03:19:58.580taking meds for i think that might affect the answer but honestly i don't
03:20:09.060I, you can build other runes around it, but the go-to rune for that is Uruz. Uruz is the healing rune.
03:20:21.560um it is the rune that the all-father referred to in his uh runa tall and it's
03:20:37.880you know a second I know that the sons of men who wish to be healers need and that is that
03:20:43.940So I think that's the best one. I've used that in effective healing rituals that I've done. That's what I'd recommend. But again, I may add on to that depending on what his particular situation is. Svan, what are your thoughts?
03:21:03.940yeah my go-to right away when you said was was urus i think in combination with it is uh
03:21:10.180congruent with another rune uh lavus which has connections to the mind and also connections to
03:21:16.180healing leech craft or leak craft the idea of utilizing medicine through um um the the leak
03:21:25.300or the the garlic is uh continuously through our lore associated with health and well-being
03:21:31.300i'm not promoting garlic is the answer what i'm saying is that it's connected to
03:21:35.620the the work of healing and the work of making one well and uh if another rune was to be applied i
03:21:43.940think i think nathis is another good rune because it's a it's a rune of constraint it's a rune of
03:21:50.420mooring so if there's a sense that perhaps there's a an unraveling of the components of the mind the
03:21:59.380mini and the huir then perhaps the idea would be urus again for health and healing strength of the
03:22:06.580body and the soul lagus for healing and for medicine and the calming of the mind especially
03:22:13.860in the realm of dreams and water the blood and then nafis to contain and hold um the course
03:22:23.300uh to to bind the mind and to keep it from the unraveling or the the it stops uh
03:22:31.860in purgement stops the purging of things okay so um awesome he's still in the chat
03:22:40.260the brother's name is vincent so anybody who would like to to say a prayer for the health and
03:22:47.860well-being of vincent please you are encouraged to do so if you'd like um i think i wish him the
03:22:56.580best i hope that uh i hope that he finds some healing with with his situation and some events
03:23:02.740that are more agreeable with his system all right and
03:23:11.940And so you guys may notice I might be a little bit distracted here.
03:23:19.180It's because I'm searching for a particular verse in the lore that was relevant to something we were doing.
03:23:25.100And I wanted to quote it or bring it up.
03:23:28.320So I'll find that and it'll be worth it here in a second.
03:23:33.860I don't know. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. We'll see.
03:23:37.140Why did Odin have to lose an eye to gain wisdom?
03:23:41.940Okay, well, there's a couple of things for that, but it wasn't, it was a particular type of wisdom. Let's look at that first.
03:23:55.300I actually made a brief little hint towards this. I talk about how Odin, in our stories, gave much in order to attain the meed of poetry, the blood of Kvasir, the joy of the poet and the battlesome hero.
03:24:18.320but what he gave for a draught of water was his eye and the gravity of that situation is is
03:24:26.000important as well it wasn't life and limb it was something of great value and importance the
03:24:34.080perception the eyes are symbolic of pers of the perception perceiving and to give up one in order
03:24:43.120to gain a draught and in essence the the placing of the eye the exchange if you will the gifting
03:24:50.240the exchange of that draught the internalizing of wisdom versus also the placing of the eye within
03:24:57.280the mode of the well of mimir the well of mimir what is the well of mimir the well of mimir is
03:25:05.440where the root of the great tree in heaven expounds its way out to the east to the realm of resistance
03:25:13.120jotenheim and in that realm all that which flows when resistance flows out things must swim against
03:25:22.160it it's like it's like a um a current the current's going forward things swim against it and
03:25:28.080action is created weird is created and so the that weird that action is in essence flowing towards
03:25:38.240the well of memory it is becoming the memory of that action against resistance and so in order
03:25:46.640for ovin to see all of the actions that partake against the resistance of of energy that that
03:25:55.600that causes action he placed his eye within its source so therefore he could see all outcomes of
03:26:02.880action and that is a huge boon and that's one of the powers of odin we're not talking about the
03:26:10.240literal we're talking about the divine taking a piece of oneself at loss in order to have gain
03:26:19.840and there isn't a transaction between time and godhood and so in essence since
03:26:27.360Odin placed his Mimir's head upon the well of time he found a way to unlock to interact with
03:26:39.480that which was uninteractable he he in essence if it was locked he created the door and the lock
03:26:48.200and the key all at the same time in order to gain access to that well. So placing Mimir there was
03:26:57.820his inn. So he took, again, a great loss. The loss of Mimir to the gods became a gain to the gods
03:27:06.640again when he placed him on the well as the way, the conduit to get into that well. But when he got
03:27:16.340there again it was the lock and it was the door but the key was the sacrifice and the sacrifice
03:27:23.300needed to be made there needed to be something a great value of the divine being of odin lord odin
03:27:31.060needed to be given in order to gain access so the eye is the key the mirror is the door in the lock
03:27:38.340and the well is the is the prize it was to know the actions and the outcomes of all things
03:27:46.340that move against time or through time or through the resistance of time in order to
03:27:52.100help facilitate fending off the ultimate end the ragnarok of the gods that got to dameron
03:28:00.380and it was done in order to buy time to gain an extra amount in order to gird heaven to
03:50:03.880The unification of divine sound, I think, is as much as him basically attaining the sounds, is the recitation of the sounds.
03:50:19.740Odin is the binder, the encapsulator of fetters, the construction of fetters, and the releaser of fetters.
03:50:29.140So the idea is his attainment, his consumption and his reverberation back out. And I think that takes place in that. I think sound is highly more valuable in our faith and in our mythos than people get at first glance.
03:50:45.920I made reference to that in BNS with Bragi, the god of music and poetry, also being the ordered sound of the gods, being from Odin.
03:51:01.180That's very interesting. If you take it in the story, he's the son of Odin.
03:51:04.920He is now the formulated sound after the attainment of those things.
03:51:10.160But then he teaches them as a boon to the gods. He teaches the gods about the runes.
03:51:15.920And it is said that Heimdall then taught Konungur, the king, Koning, amongst the folk, taught him the runes.
03:51:26.140So, you know, there's the songs, those things that all equates back to frequency and sound.
03:51:35.760What sounds they are, I couldn't tell you.
03:51:37.920I couldn't say like, well, this rune is, you know, C sharp.
03:51:42.760but that's something interesting i think to think about could it be attained or finited into that
03:51:49.200but as of right now yes i do believe there are frequencies but specifics i cannot state i wish
03:51:55.620i was more musically inclined i think i would probably go down that road and try to see if i
03:52:00.940make some headway in understanding that but alas i am not a musician
03:52:07.180so i uh i don't speak that i'm not a musician either i think there's absolutely something to
03:52:17.080the vibration um i think that's a thing
03:52:21.360we've said a lot that uh sound is so very important and we see it time and time again
03:52:33.540And so I know that that's also a thing, something that I think is a good time to to bring this up is one of the things I most like about Galder when done in a group is the harmony that you get on notes.
03:52:50.880And you adjust it to the people around you, but it's really special if you're able to do this in ritual with, you know, 50 people or more, if you can all hit the right sound and harmonize with one another.
03:53:11.260hearing that harmony, something really special happens, and it's a really profound moment when
03:53:20.480you harmonize that way. So I'm a big fan of that. I like that a lot. That's one of the reasons I do
03:53:28.520that at the beginning of rituals most often. For people who are listening to, here's just
03:53:37.040food for thought when you think about the sound frequency of the runes um and what relation they
03:53:42.420might have or not have or trying to connect make connective tissue let's look at the first etud
03:53:47.700when you think of when you think of uh the the rune fehu fee there's the f sound the high pitch
03:53:54.640kind of sound and then it opens up immediately to the next sound being a very mouth sound oh
03:54:02.520there's a big large breath and opening of the of the system so there's this pressurized high pitch
03:54:09.660hiss of the f sound then an opening of the u and then right back to the constraint of the th sound
03:54:17.020which makes a frequency that's high pitched and pressurized and then opens up immediately again
03:54:22.620to another vocalized ah so we have this f and then the open u then the tightening thirst that
03:54:31.580the constraint and then the ah again and then after that it's noted that the the
03:54:39.180raido rune is a clicking sound uh the the rolling r and the idea of progression i often have always
03:54:47.180equated it to time and to clicking and everything coming into sequence and then after that there's
03:54:52.940the keen the the k rune the kenos rune and when you make that sound it sounds a lot like someone's
03:54:58.860flintnapping or making tapping so you notice this kind of like frequencies can actually paint a story
03:55:07.340of and in correlation to the meaning of the rooms you have that high pressurized fire that opened
03:55:13.260howling winds then you have that tight grinding thirst sound the of the twisting of of the of the
03:55:21.900thirst of the of emir and then you have the ah that the gods and the breath of life coming in
03:55:27.580then there's the the clicking and the ordering and then there's the kenaz is the forming the the the
03:55:33.740tapping and creating and then the gifting and then joy with again with the sound that ween sound and
03:55:40.540what do what do children do when they have fun the first thing they say is we you know it's like
03:55:45.180that that sound of joy is very similar to the wing your sense the wolf sound so these i just
03:55:52.620wanted to break that down in an idea of like how you could look at the runes based off of sound
03:55:57.180and frequency as opposed to looking at them as symbols and names specifically listen to the
03:56:04.060sound sometimes and there's the there's a mystery within there so the next question have you done
03:56:13.420rune pulls for your own children slash family members i did uh i did a rune pull for aubrey's
03:56:21.180baby naming that's the only time i think i've done a rune pull for uh any any family members
03:56:29.100svan what about you yes uh in um private as far as with the name fastenings i um
03:56:38.540i was unable to well to be fair for my first two children there were no hafs um and um
03:56:47.100luckily they've grown up in an age of ouser with temples uh to our gods but they were
03:56:52.700still babies at the time and so i privately did that uh but all of my children were able
03:56:58.620to also be blessed again uh made reference to the to the uh the maiden and and the
03:57:04.460the mother and the elder mother um or the nori or the three maidens is my children
03:57:10.620were also blessed by their mother their grandmother and their great-grandmother who's
03:57:14.780now 102 um and she got to wash them with water and uh and and brush them but um they uh
03:57:24.780yes runics uh every year for for um uh odin's night at for yule i i have a tendency to do it
03:57:33.820for a whole family but sometimes it can pertain to one particular member of the family uh based
03:57:41.420on need again it's not often it's not frequent enough i think to the point where i would say
03:57:47.980that it's like um you know if my my son's worried about whether or not he's gonna be able to get um
03:57:56.460a belt or something in his in his martial arts for you know jiu-jitsu or you know how well
03:58:02.220he'll do in a competition or something like that i wouldn't need the rooms for that leave that
03:58:07.260to the to the experience of life but with the great need yes i have
03:58:15.900all right gentlemen what items are appropriate to have rune carvings drawn on them and uh
03:58:25.020or to have runes carved slash drawn on them and what items are not if that's the case
03:58:33.580please touch on the subject of blood binding a bit more uh the do's and the don'ts thank you um
03:58:48.140most everything uh again you want to be you want to be respectful obviously
03:58:53.340ridiculous things or vulgar things or gag gifts or, you know, nonsense would be inappropriate
03:59:05.280to carve runes on. But artistically, there's lots of things you could carve runes on just
03:59:13.700completely mundanely because they're beautiful and they're part of our heritage
03:59:16.980or because you're using it as a form of writing.
03:59:24.180Yeah, there's most anything I think is appropriate to draw and carve runes on.
03:59:31.500Again, something silly or vulgar or just blatantly disrespectful, not so much.
03:59:39.820As far as blooding do's and don'ts go,
03:59:46.980So, like I said, one of the most important factors in rune work is your connection to what you're doing and your self-exploration through doing it.
04:00:02.320Your intent, the use of your luck, your hymenia in the magical operation is really important.
04:00:08.820That's why the idea of blooding a set of runes is meaningful.
04:00:15.660now i know that a lot of people once they've blooded their runes they're very very particular
04:00:23.700on anybody else touching them maybe even if they haven't blooded their runes once they're theirs
04:00:29.460and they feel like they have that connection with them through their blood they don't want
04:00:34.280anybody else touching them and so that's something just as far as runic etiquette if you have a set
04:00:39.920of runes or if somebody else does, don't just at random touch their runes. That may be something
04:00:48.300that they're very, very personal about and might be grossly offended or even in an extreme case
04:00:55.520have to remake their whole set of runes if you mess that up. So be really careful not to do that
04:01:01.060without asking the idea of tying them to you by blood i think is is very legitimate um
04:01:13.300and it's a special spiritual act when you do it um as far as etiquette and like
04:01:20.020rules do's and don'ts pro tip you may think it's really easy to you know whittle yourself
04:01:28.900on your finger or something to try to get some blood to blood objects with i have found that
04:01:36.420that is far more difficult than you think it is i think you could go really fast and go hog and go
04:01:41.060to town and you might end up needing stitches or cutting your finger off or you go really
04:01:46.980tentatively and you doing it yourself it's like it's this just excruciating ridiculous
04:01:52.740and a painful process because you're just slowly carving away a hole that you're going to bleed
04:02:00.380through. And the other thing is, it has a tendency to, if you're trying to blood a set of rooms,
04:02:07.620to coagulate, to not work right, the wound to close up, and next thing you know, you're whittling
04:02:13.480on your finger and it's just no good. So other people may have different advice on this.
04:02:19.700That's my advice on this. And again, I don't think you should do this unless you're over 18. And I don't necessarily think I'm advising you to do this one way or another. But what I did was I had a needle that was for veterinary something with my dog.
04:02:44.620my dog needed injections of something i had this extra you know syringe and needle and i had this
04:02:52.460i don't know i i wrapped my arm really tight to cut off the circulation and i flexed my
04:02:57.820arm a bunch to build up up some blood flow and then i drew a syringe worth of my own
04:03:04.940of my own blood and it worked really well because i with my dremel tool when i made the runes
04:03:12.460you know it dremeled out these little trenches in the wood that i could fill up very easily
04:03:19.260nice and controlled with the syringe and again i wasn't it didn't coagulate and i was able to use
04:03:25.980that on my entire room set without having to poke a bunch of holes in myself or make it a
04:03:32.860a ridiculous thing so again that is not the official advice the austral folk assembly
04:03:38.780it's just me telling you what i did that worked really good uh spawn what are your what are your
04:03:43.980thoughts on this um you covered a lot and i the question is kind of broad i would i would just
04:03:51.100interject that um we know from evidence that there are many different mediums in which you could
04:03:57.580transfer uh the visage of a symbol i think it's important to understand that the symbol itself
04:04:04.380and it's carving into something is very important in relation to the i guess in the esoteric usage
04:04:14.460not in perhaps writing and not even perhaps in just uh maybe marking time or things like that
04:04:21.260if you are doing esoteric use of runes and you carve into something you are creating a body
04:04:27.820of it so if you create the body of it then you must give the blood of it and you must give the
04:04:33.180breath of it and so in essence you are recreating the event of of voden villi and vey coming down
04:04:43.420and shaping askur and empla so that's where that process is kind of focused around so
04:04:53.740if you're able to do that let's say like large stones you know generally you might be writing
04:04:59.100something but let's say for instance you're just doing uh a stave or something to heal or something
04:05:05.820to bring about something kind of like what we talked about an ale uh scala gunstones saga um
04:05:14.380you want to consider the the movability of that object if it's a if it's a large stone and you
04:05:19.660you want to carve it you know the idea is that you're you're going to have to also uh bind it
04:05:24.700with with love and you're going to have to buy it bind it with breath so the ability to do so
04:05:30.140is kind of incumbent on whether you could reach it or what have you um so that's a consideration
04:05:36.700fruit bearing trees is what's is is mentioned in tacitus but we know too that uh brian hilder the
04:05:43.820the valkyrie says to sigrid he says if you want victory you carve two tear runes at the base of
04:05:51.100the blade of your sword and you branch victory the runes will grant you victory so now we're
04:05:56.540talking about metal and there's the the the um inscription on metal so metal uh wood bone i my
04:06:05.580rune set um which is not it's here but i would have to go look for it is uh isn't is carved on
04:06:12.860bone um and so you know you can choose your medium i know that people have made uh swift
04:06:23.180uh something called a tanner it's like a tooth it's a clay white clay formed in the shape of
04:06:30.540like a a rod or a a tine and on that is a runic inscription a singular rune or a bind rune and
04:06:38.220it's oftentimes just called a tanner and that is made for a moment a time and then it's you know
04:06:44.780broken and crushed and thrown away in fire when it is done um so you do that too like i guess it's
04:06:52.220like molding clay or air dry clay again it's not the medium that you're choosing and the significance
04:06:58.300is important to you it's the fact that you are creating the body and then you must place the
04:07:02.860blood and then you must place the breath that is the tripartite you are making so
04:07:09.340whatever you choose that's fine but when you get into blooding this is how i was taught
04:07:13.660and this is how i would recommend go to a store and buy a lancet which is a diabetic needle that
04:07:21.340pricks fingers and then mix it with linseed oil and red ochre that ochre is a very traditional
04:07:29.820uh pigment coloring that we have found in usage all the way back to the stone age and in relation
04:07:37.420to um being powdered and placed upon the dead like they're they are uh sprinkled over with red ochre
04:07:45.340uh so again the the intrinsic connection between life and blood and death are all there but it's
04:07:50.780also has been used as a pigment for runes so if you take linseed oil and red ochre which is a powder
04:07:57.900mix those together into a paste and then add nine drops of of your blood from a lancet and then use
04:08:04.780that to paint your rooms that's how i would recommend it to avoid injuries and various
04:08:13.580painful possible stitches or infection or what have you um it is mentioned in ale skullagrim's
04:08:20.620um uh saga that he actually bursts a horn that has poison in it and he does so by slicing his hand
04:08:31.260it's it's mentioned that he slices the heel of his hand and then he carves a rune in the horn
04:08:37.740and then places the bloody hand upon the rune and sings the galder and then the horn explodes
04:08:43.900because it was poisoned now that is really really good stuff that's great i love that story um and
04:08:54.300that that visceral imagery uh what runes they don't say because again it might not have been
04:09:00.860known um and it didn't happen exactly like that who knows like it's like depends on where you're
04:09:08.940on that but uh very very cool story but that's one of the only times i i i recall there's ever
04:09:15.740a mention of the blood letting in a physical sense like there's reference to usage of blood
04:09:22.140as a binding to the room but that's the only one i can recall that's physically explained
04:09:28.220that he cuts the heel of his hand in relation to casting to carving the room and and the desired
04:09:33.900effect. Beyond that, I was taught to use a lancet to create that mixture of pigment and then to use
04:09:42.260a brush that was cut at a 45 degree angle so that you could dip it and then place the pigment within
04:09:47.920the trough of the rune symbol, whatever you carve it on. And of course, if it's vertical, it's very
04:09:54.120different than if it's horizontal. So again, if you're doing things on stone, you have to take
04:09:58.840consideration that the pigment is thick enough that it doesn't run out and then run down and
04:10:04.600kind of mess things up. So that's something worth noting. Another thing that I've heard too is
04:10:09.680to place, somebody has placed a bloody thumbprint upon the rune and then after it dried, they sanded
04:10:16.200away the surface level so that the rune itself is the only thing that remained within pigmented
04:10:22.980blood something to consider but that that takes work later on
04:10:28.500all right in the rigs thula the runes are taught by heimdallar specifically to the kingly slash
04:10:40.520priestly class can you speak on this passage often othen is specifically tied to the runes
04:10:47.320and not so much heimdall swan what are your thoughts on that well i think one thing um
04:10:55.400there's a there's a desperation i think amongst the scholars and people that have read the the
04:11:01.560stories snorri still listen first i you have to remember he helenicized a lot so the idea that um
04:11:10.440you know he kind of really made odin i think intentionally zeus-like in comparison
04:11:17.800with with intention in some cases but he didn't in this case he made it very specific talking about
04:11:25.400heim dotler as being uh an emissary between the gods and and men and i think that's because
04:11:32.760that's a vestige that holds true even before him that it was very very clear to not change that
04:11:39.320but it's it's the the simple uh reasoning obviously people try to they try to make
04:11:47.160heimdall and odin oh maybe home heimdall is heimdall is actually olden and it's hypostasis
04:11:54.120and again we've gone on and on about the cramming of divinity and how disrespectful that is and that
04:12:00.920we don't do that but there is a reasoning in it in the sense that there's a great power there but
04:12:07.560But if we look at Heimdallur and we look at Odin respectively in the stories, what they're teaching us, we know that Yggdrasil is in heaven, that the first root is in the well of earth, which is at the base of the tree.
04:12:22.800So when he hangs himself from the tree, the Axis Mundi in the center of heaven, he becomes part and whole with the tree in which no one knows its roots sprout from, the proto of all creation he is connected to.
04:12:35.920That's huge. That's powerful. He brings it to the gods. Heimdall, who sits at the threshold of Himenbjörg and Midgarth, he is the light that he's the prism in which the light, the prism of light that through which divinity flows through.
04:12:53.520he's exalted and brought into the homes of great-grandmother and great-grandfather
04:12:58.360of course there's those those generations and he teaches konungur or konam teaches them in the
04:13:05.640runes stories and how you battle and poetry and all that stuff what i really think that is is
04:13:11.040it's showing that it doesn't make odin less that heindal shared and it shows that the the nature
04:13:21.020of their being olden is exalting the mysteries from he's extracting the mysteries from the well
04:13:28.700in in jotunheim he's traveling there he's creating the godhead of time he creates the the lock and he
04:13:35.660gives the key in order to attain that wisdom he is moving and powerful he's up and down he's he's
04:13:42.220all around he's dynamic heimdallar is very much connected between midgard and out and ausgard
04:13:50.380he's he's between heaven and earth he's of the waves he's the fluid nature of cycles and the
04:13:57.500eternal time of the gods he has a lot of intrinsic power and that doesn't take any less away from
04:14:04.300thor and if if it does then why are people polytheistic why why why believe in all these
04:14:10.140of all of all the gods if you're just gonna cram them and and then one has to be so powerful that
04:14:15.980the others don't really you know they're just all kind of facets of one it gets into ridiculousness
04:14:21.260but heimdall is that conduit between the folk he is uh we are heimdall's children as it's referred
04:14:29.580to in um uh you know be quiet and sit still and listen all ye of heimdall's children talking
04:14:37.900about humanity they're talking about the folk the folk in specifics because of the lessons he taught
04:14:44.460so heimdall is fulfilling his purpose and and being as what he does he's a conduit between
04:14:53.260the earth and heaven and mankind in between and just like that odin is a conduit between the
04:14:59.420primordial mysteries and the gods themselves and that's what makes him so powerful so i think that
04:15:06.620a lot of people get bent out of shape trying to force square pegs into round holes because
04:15:13.580no heimdall can't do that owen has to do that because owen is the runes and owen is only the
04:15:18.540runes and the runes are only owen and it it really kind of just shows uh the inability to see how
04:15:28.380things work when we talk about multiplicity you know we do we talk about the finite of one leader
04:15:34.780but there's the others around that also influence and incorporate and inspire and that's how nature
04:15:41.740works and that's how the gods work and so i think heimdall is fulfilling his purpose by teaching
04:15:48.540the runes because odin fulfilled his purpose of finding the runes and teaching it to the gods
04:15:54.700boom boom boom it's my best explanation for that i think that's as close to perfect as we're going
04:16:02.220to get i don't really think there's anything i can add to that i think that says it all um
04:16:09.340next up over on entropy uh question for matt and svan what are your thoughts on hunting implements
04:16:16.140being blessed before the hunting season say during a bloat to uler i'm all for that that's something
04:16:23.980yeah that's something that we do that's that's a holiday yeah that's what we do
04:16:30.620at uh winter finding um that's what uh i did at a winter finding
04:16:45.260i say winter finding 2009 um before i got my first moose that was very effective it was
04:16:55.420served very well i've told the story before but i was out um the junior member of a really
04:17:03.260accomplished hunting party we were out trying to get a moose last day sun was going down you can't
04:17:10.380hunt by a artificial light there and so sun was going down um very last day we had no success
04:17:19.980last day of the season. And we were looking with a scope to look for potential moose coming down
04:17:28.500from the mountains because we're in this valley. One was coming down. They put me in the most
04:17:33.560ridiculous spot. I was feverish with the swine flu and half out of my mind. They're like, hey,
04:17:43.540just sit here, whatever. We'll post you here and we'll go take all the real spots.
04:17:49.980Um, again, I'm half delirious, but I'm, I'm waiting for that moose. I'm looking up the hill.
04:17:57.460Um, and I hear this grunting sound behind me and I keep looking up the hill. I'm not
04:18:04.480in my right mind. So I hear the grunts again. Again, I don't see where it's coming from.
04:18:10.980I'm looking up the hill. Finally, I hear the grunts a third time and some rustling the trees
04:18:16.480and I turn around, the moose is behind me, and it's, you know, maybe 15 feet away from me.
04:18:28.060And it looks at me, it turns broadside and stands there.
04:18:35.540and so you know eventually finally coming to my senses I shot it and we got our moose and
04:18:47.600you know I was the hero of the day getting the moose for the hunting party and still got the
04:18:54.140the antlers downstairs but none of that story is about how what an awesome hunter I am all of that
04:19:00.500story is about how uler blessed me because we did do that blessing and we did make that the focus
04:19:07.280of our winner finding globe and that was really special and still something that's always going
04:19:13.420to stand out to me uh i wanted to say you know uh the understanding of the word like of bidding
04:19:22.480or beda and give the gifting when we ask if you if you are to ask the gods for for boon and benefit
04:19:32.160you're you're bidding them to give you those blessings so as a as a practitioner of asa true
04:19:37.320you could ask the gods to give you that blessing it's always about kind of compounding things as
04:19:43.760well, if you, the gifting cycle is held up by, by Godar. So if you can go to winter finding
04:19:51.940and you can ask the Godar who have been giving gifts to the gods for a long time, as long as
04:19:59.360they've been a Godar, but also part of the Auschwitz focus assembly, which has been giving that gift
04:20:04.880cycle for a very long time. So they're connect their weirdest connected to it. So you can ask
04:20:10.660for the gifting of the boon through a godar who has built that gifting cycle and then you can also
04:20:18.020take that gifting and add the bidding of yourself to the god to to give you the blessing and the
04:20:24.020boon i think that's an important thing to to note is that um when you know if you have the ability
04:20:30.100to ask the gifting from the gothar and their purpose in the whole cycle of it all if you ask
04:20:36.660for the bidding from the the gods themselves too and if you're blessed in that situation
04:20:42.020right there is like kind of a boon situation that builds might with your relationship with the gods
04:20:47.620so i have always taken it really important to ask for the through gifting by going through the gothar
04:20:56.340or you know and and blessing the the tools and implements and then uh bidding the the god to
04:21:05.700to uh help you and then implementing the hunt and um but yeah that is winter finding that is
04:21:11.940the absolute um thing also you know blessing your your your weapons of self-defense um as
04:21:19.620ulur is also the we pray to him for that as well but yeah that's uh you should come to winter
04:21:27.060finding get the gifting and then get the bidding and then go hunt that's uh that's all i can say to
04:21:33.380that so you know just thinking on stuff tonight and
04:21:47.620kind of random but we've also had a couple of a couple of mentions in the chat about some
04:21:54.820some different mental illness and mental struggles something i want to put out there is
04:21:59.860if anybody's going through anything or ever needs to talk on stuff that's something else
04:22:07.460the gotha are here for you know spawn mentioned going to them to
04:22:14.500facilitate the gift cycle which is absolutely correct but another thing
04:22:20.580go to them to talk if you're having a problem any of us that is
04:22:25.220is, you know, one of our most to the forefront duties and things that we all want to be here to do
04:22:34.980is to be able to help our people through hard times. So if anybody is having a struggle,
04:22:40.920if anybody is, you know, got something going on that they need to talk to somebody about,
04:22:48.900doesn't have to be a big stress, doesn't have to be a big deal. You've got a whole group of
04:22:54.400people here whose job it is to help our folk be mentally, spiritually, and physically healthy.
04:23:05.900We are a holistic faith that all of those things are connected, and we would all be very,
04:23:13.500very happy to talk to anybody who's going through anything. And I think it's never a bad time to
04:23:19.360point that out or put that out there, but, um, producer Nick put up a gothar at runestone.org.
04:23:25.800We would be really, really happy to have conversation with anybody that, that needs to
04:23:32.460and help when we can. Um, and I think that's always worth, it's always worth a try. Um,
04:23:39.820but yeah, I know that we would all love to talk to our folk. We, you know, we'd love to talk to
04:23:44.420them during the good times, but we also are absolutely here to talk to them during the
04:23:48.500rough times. That's what we signed up for. Next. Are there guidelines for dealing with people who
04:24:01.920try to destroy your life because you were interested in preserving your people's native
04:24:07.560beliefs. I think all of that is so very, very situational. Destroy your life, how? It depends
04:24:20.780what they're doing. It depends on a lot of things. There are evil forces out there. There are also
04:24:31.060people who are just a very low character and are just dirtbags that try to bring you down
04:24:38.380and try to bring anyone down that's being successful. One of the biggest things that
04:24:43.900we deal with amongst our own people all the time is this crab in the bucket thing.
04:24:49.700Unhappy people want everybody else to be unhappy too. Unsuccessful people want everyone else to be
04:24:56.540unsuccessful too. And so they try to bring you down when you find something that does speak to
04:25:02.640your soul. If you find something that is bringing you success, every time people start having good
04:25:10.960things in their life, those crabs come out to try to pull you back down in the bucket so
04:25:15.800nobody can get out and get on to something better. And I think being aware of that is really important.
04:25:22.100um as far as guidelines again i don't i don't know what that means without more context
04:25:35.120um certainly if somebody's doing something illegal to you in order to destroy your life
04:25:41.200i would encourage you to you know seek seek some legal advice on that um if you're an afa member
04:25:49.360and why wouldn't you be? I would encourage that you reach out to our law speaker or
04:25:56.480we have a folk builder in Florida, Otto Refuse, who's also an attorney, as well as our law
04:26:06.800speaker, Alan Ternage, who's an attorney. They give you some advice if it's a legal question.
04:26:12.400Other than that, I think one of the best things that you can do to thwart people that are trying
04:26:19.060to bring you down and cause you harm reputation wise, is continue to be successful. When you,
04:26:28.280if you divert your attention away from the things that are bringing you happiness and success
04:26:38.480to get down and roll around in the mud with whoever's trying to make you look bad or cause
04:26:43.820a problem they've effectively stopped your progress at least for the moment when you
04:26:51.740brush them aside and continue to succeed despite their best efforts i think that's
04:26:59.740and i know that it sounds you know lifetime movie after school special kind of advice but i think
04:27:08.300that it really is true the more that you don't allow them that space in your head and the more
04:27:15.900that you dwarf them by your success or by the good things you have in your life by our faith
04:27:24.540i think that is the most potent way to deal with that situation and i think it's the way
04:27:30.460that you come out the best in the end svan do you have any any thoughts to that question
04:27:38.300Yeah, I think you hit everything there. I would just say, I mean, yeah, defense, if your life is threatened, legal defense, if you're, you know, being pursued in ways that are, you know, trying to, you know, monetarily and things like that.
04:27:54.280but i think it's really important what what was kind of uh let out in question was um that i think
04:28:01.640a lot of people lose sight of the fact that this is our ethnic faith we're allowed to honor the
04:28:08.280gods of our people these gods were honored by a people and those people looked and acted and spoke
04:28:14.200a certain way and um you know you could leave politics aside and you could also you know
04:28:21.320understand that there are other people in the world you there there are other types of people
04:28:27.000and you are a type of people you have every right to be just as much as them so in you know once you
04:28:34.440kind of lose sight of that and you get kind of caught up in the in the muck of it of this you
04:28:40.520know pointing fingers and uh people trying to say you're this and you're that as soon as you lose
04:28:46.040side of that then you you kind of lose the pure root of what you're doing which is you know
04:28:53.640honoring the gods of your people there's no one who can say or do anything that is wrong
04:28:59.880outside of that you know they can try to ruin your life in multiple ways um and you know you
04:29:06.920should take accordance to that but succeed and you will you know absolutely uh drive them insane
04:29:14.360You know, if you have the ability to, you know, be autonomous and be wealthy, successful, disciplined, clean, and of good health, and with, you know, a happy family and all is well, whatever terms in which you stated, you know, trying to ruin your life, they can't at that point.
04:29:41.380i mean i you know unless they're extremely terrible which a lot of people are these days
04:29:47.860there are some extremely terrible people but again you can't live your life you know hunkered
04:29:52.580down in the bunker um thinking about the absolute worst you gotta you gotta live in the sun so um
04:30:01.300yeah you you hit it all right there i'm just adding on to that someone else i see over in
04:30:08.020the chat as reference to odin being the mad god in reference to mental illness and um i just want
04:30:16.820to state that there's something worthwhile to think of on that because we do think of
04:30:24.100of odin in terms of fury and ecstasy and altered mental state but odin is the master of the woke
04:30:35.140he is the master of inspiration he is the master of the fury he is not mastered by the fury and
04:30:43.860that's important the fact that he has his wolves and he has them at bay and he has them tamed as
04:30:53.780pets that sit on either side of his throne shows that he can master the primal and the crazy he is
04:31:01.700able to bring chaos to order and i think that's a real fundamental that people often don't think
04:31:11.060of when they talk about you know him being the god of fury certainly he is but he can channel
04:31:17.620and control that because he has achieved that level of mastery he is the master of the load
04:31:23.140what's up next uh in the removal of runes do you know of a correct way or unharmful way to do so
04:31:38.440kind of like a safe way to unload a weapon it's fun you got thoughts on that yes um again that's
04:31:45.940why the median in which you carve the runes is very important to consider in relation to the
04:31:52.300the usage of the rune another thing to consider sometimes people will carve runes on things and
04:31:57.260perhaps bury them and then realize that the the things that were set in motion may not have been
04:32:03.020very good to do but then they can't find the place they buried it or they can't find the medium in
04:32:09.500which they already set things into motion so it's it's a great consideration before you the what is
04:32:16.940it the the term is uh uh runa rot runa restaurant right runes must be written right and that means
04:32:28.220you must take into all considerations everything you're doing before you start the whole process
04:32:34.300to begin with because deed is important forethought is the boon of the gods before deed um so have
04:32:41.660that forethought but um if you are let's say doing something let's say you you you do something for
04:32:48.780a moment when i was talking about the uh the tooth the the tangur the um if you make a tine
04:32:56.300and you you do a rune on it and it's time is over and everything is good the best thing to do is to
04:33:01.420place a blade upon it shave it off into a fire break the medium and then place that into the fire
04:33:09.980is often the way that I have always gotten rid of runes in relation to that say that their time
04:33:17.580is over. And understanding sometimes when things are completed, they must be put to an end. It's
04:33:24.180good to have an ending to things as well. It's bad to initiate deeds and push things out into
04:33:30.240the world and have no way to close them down. I think people are oftentimes too fatalistically
04:33:36.280driven by their emotions so they initiate their oath with the world by creating a rune
04:33:44.120and implementing that into the world without ever considering that there might be an end
04:33:48.840or a moment where it's finally concluded and that's okay so think about things before you
04:33:55.640uh you know writ them down and bless them in the blood and sing their songs
04:34:02.520take consideration all the way from beginning to end.
04:34:19.080I don't have much to add on that other than everything has to do with intention.
04:34:23.560Be very intentional and thought out in what you do, and I think that'll be your best guide.
04:34:28.920One thing that I know from experience that I felt when I was first getting started is a respectful reluctance to do things because I didn't want to do something wrong.
04:34:46.740So I would have, you know, paralysis by analysis on that and contemplate, you know, all the ways I could do something wrong and didn't want to mess it up.
04:34:55.600But honestly, I think. Go in with good intentions, what you do, as long as it's intentional and thought out, I think that that won't lead you astray.
04:35:15.060Again, it's not a science project, so it's not like if you don't do the perfect thing, everything's going to blow up in your face or whatever.
04:35:23.680I think the forces that govern this universe are sentient.
04:35:30.280I think our gods are looking on when we use the runes,
04:35:34.200especially if we invoke them when we use them.
04:35:38.400And I think that they are able to, you know,
04:35:42.800act based on the energy you're putting out.
04:35:47.540If you're being a jerk and you're strutting around like you're cocky on whatever,
04:35:51.320then they probably don't have your back.
04:35:53.680If you are trying to do the right thing and you're being respectful, then even if it's not perfect, you had the right intention.
04:36:02.380And I think that that counts for a lot in this world and all others.
04:36:11.360I just saw something and I wanted to bring it up.
04:36:14.320There was a question that was laid down a long time ago, and I think we missed it.
04:42:19.640I don't agree with everything that evola says or everything he's come up with but
04:42:28.140I'm a big fan and I've read everything I can find of his that's been translated into English
04:42:35.820His relation is that he recognizes tradition versus not. And his idea of tradition with a big T is a school of thought that united civilization up until relatively recently, I'd say up until the French Revolution and past, there is a way that civilization worked.
04:43:04.880Now, most of that, and again, he goes a little bit further afield than we would in Asatru with China, with Japan, and with some other things.
04:43:13.840But there was a way the world functioned the way it was supposed to, and that was the world of tradition.
04:43:20.820And a lot of those traditional ideas were deliberately and specifically rejected and supplanted in various social upheaval movements from, you know, the Enlightenment to, quote unquote, Enlightenment till today.
04:43:44.540I say until today and continuing today.
04:43:48.880But his idea of hearkening back to a traditional way of worship, way of interaction, way of functioning socially is very appealing and very relevant to Alcetru as we try to continue to grow it and build it in a modern context where so much of the West is completely non-traditional and intentionally so.
04:44:16.360So when we talk about the culture war that we are very, very much engaged in, it's a war between traditionalism and, you know, wokeness.
04:44:27.400And wokeness probably looked different in the 1700s than it looks now, but it was all leading to this crazy situation we find ourselves in.
04:44:36.380Evola spoke about that very eloquently. And one of the things that is also related to Alcetru was he would reference our lore in a lot of his books. He would certainly add and make reference and point out the very obvious comparisons between different branches of Arian religiosity.
04:44:59.160um and that's really important as a matter of fact we include some of his material in our
04:45:07.400gothar training so in that way he's he's absolutely relevant to that and the book i
04:45:13.220mentioned earlier introduction to magic on sigil magic was put out by by evola and it was part of
04:45:21.740his group of magical associates at the time the ur group that he was a part of the article wasn't
04:45:29.900a braxus wasn't him who wrote the article that i talked about but that book is is his group and his
04:45:35.900guys next question happy birthday matt how does it feel being 25 well i've i've been 25 for 17 years
04:45:50.700now. I'm getting good at it. It feels pretty good. I appreciate that. What can you say about
04:45:59.580Mimir and any correlation on the runes? Svan, what do you have to say about Mimir and any
04:46:07.220correlation he might have to the runes? Well, I think to my knowledge right now off the top of
04:46:15.500my head i cannot think of any distinctness except it is worth noting when uh when you said in the
04:46:23.240runatal with odin he said he learned his mysteries from uh bolthorn bolthorn is besla's father which
04:46:32.760would make that his grandfather the primordial bolthorn who uh you know is a generation of emir
05:01:51.780also a huge amount of understanding too i think uh getting the the emails and the letters from
05:02:01.000from folks that are like i'm not with i'm not like i'm not you guys but i totally see that
05:02:08.040you have every right to do that and it's like coming from like all kinds of people yes i have
05:02:14.080been very positively surprised about that um where we get some of the support we get it comes from
05:02:21.860the least likely of sources and i i'm very thankful of that uh old black church ladies often
05:02:28.640yeah they're a big a big source of support i i remember receiving a series of emails like that
05:02:36.440i was like this is surprisingly cool yeah i really appreciate going there um
05:02:52.840so the next question what do you think of the rune guild svan what do you think of the rune guild
05:02:59.800uh so strangely i i well one i think that you have uh far more of an inclination to
05:03:07.000better illuminate this question uh i was taught by someone so i never really pursued it i think
05:03:14.920it is a uh a really amazing thing i think that uh for a school built around the esoteric knowledge
05:03:23.960that um for people who don't know uh we've already referenced uh edward thorson's uh dr
05:03:31.720stephen flowers and his um room guild or wood harrow institute um he built a kind of uh a
05:03:41.320a curriculum that you could you know join if you were accepted um and then could kind of work
05:03:49.480further on i don't know beyond that because i was never accepted that was never i never uh really
05:03:55.800went into it but you know i imagine that they're doing good works i don't know beyond like what
05:04:02.120kind of publications they may have moved into and i think it's esoteric knowledge that would
05:04:05.880be interesting if i could have a glimpse but in learning from my teacher i have formulated a bias
05:04:13.720of my own tradition and and that tradition was is very very structured so at this at this point
05:04:21.560it's kind of like i'm already kind of set in the grain the blood has already been set and the
05:04:27.240galler has already been sung so um i i think they're great i would love to see if they had
05:04:32.760more publications or essays or maybe i'm just ignorant as to a place where those things are
05:04:38.520um or maybe they hoard it they hoard that esoteric knowledge and that's an interesting
05:04:43.320and intriguing thing but beyond that i i know very little and uh don't have a really negative
05:04:49.640thought towards them at all okay so um i do and i don't want to um
05:05:03.240i think that there are people within the rune guild that are great and that know a lot of things
05:05:09.320and that are experts and then i think there are a lot of basement wizards that
05:05:16.600are completely useless at a lot of things and uh instead of
05:05:26.600focusing on the cake they want to focus on the frosting and i don't find those people to be
05:05:31.800very successful um one person who was involved in the rune guild kind of on the side made the
05:05:41.240comment to a friend of mine who was looking into it that you know go to one of these rune guild moots
05:05:46.760and uh it's a room full of of exalted rune maguses that can't conjure themselves up a girlfriend
05:05:56.440so there are some phds and some authors in the room guild that are absolutely amazing
05:06:04.520and then there is the rest of the pyramid which is delusional basement wizards
05:06:12.120that don't want to actually participate in life
05:06:17.080and that's kind of more scathing than i meant it to be but i stand by it and i think it's true
05:06:25.480Um, I mean, it's kind of like what we were talking about. There's brilliant minds that
05:06:30.840have attributed to things, especially in relation to like people like Bloom and Fitch where
05:06:36.280they're just like, ah, but there's also people that are so like, uh, I don't even know, like
05:06:41.860so focused heavily that they don't live a dutiful life. They don't live a life with
05:06:49.640the gods and with their folk and with they just get so tunnel visioned into one thing that it
05:06:56.700becomes almost like they're overwise they're they're not middle wise or even just healthily
05:07:02.680wise they're just they're beyond uh you know you know you you are nicer than i am i don't think
05:07:12.700that they're overwise i don't think they're wise at all because i think wisdom implies context
05:07:18.160i think they are very well read and i will i will leave it there but i think wisdom is
05:07:24.740is grossly lacking um all right as is prowess with the ladies
05:07:31.400so i'll just i'll just leave that there um
05:07:43.200matt and svan thoughts on the rune thorough says uh i've considered carving it into an axe i use
05:07:55.840as a tool more than a weapon svan what are your thoughts on thorough says
05:08:01.840oh well i mean right out the gate the rune poems that are associated with
05:08:10.100Thurzaz. So Thurzaz is the reconstructed name of the TH rune, the rune, and that rune is
05:08:23.440very well known. And first and foremost, its connection is to resistant forces, chaotic
05:08:33.600forces and chthonic forces it's always mentioned as thus except in one poem in the anglo-saxon
05:08:40.640where it's referred to as the thorn but even then it's given with great warning um
05:08:49.840now later on and there has been some additions to where there's been uh some connections to
05:08:54.800protection and of course connections to uh lord thor thor thor is much like the fighting fire
05:09:04.640with fire you fight thurses with thor because thor can crush um it's that that viola uh the
05:09:13.280violence but get to violence um the warrior who is uh you know nowadays in this day and age you
05:09:20.640know they try to say like oh the the hero's actually the bad guy and the bad guy's just
05:09:25.440misunderstood no the hero has to be very close if not mirroring the very thing he's fighting sometimes
05:09:37.520and without the ability for us to attain that level of understanding we're never going to be
05:09:42.080able to defeat the opposition of things that's that that mirroring effect thurs does represent
05:09:49.440that uh it is you know it is the the the catalystic breaking rune um so if as i was earlier ago he was
05:10:02.800talking about with your intent i think the biggest thing is to formulate the reasoning why if you're
05:10:09.120thinking that this is a catalystic rune that talks about the severing the breaking and the unbinding
05:10:16.080of things um you could then apply it to this axe with the intent of it aiding in its chop
05:10:24.640to fell the tree uh the trees that you need um but be careful because this is a dangerous
05:10:33.280room too and and oftentimes thorns are indiscriminate they do not care who sits amongst
05:10:38.960them they they they dispense pain equally um so it's of great consideration that when you think
05:10:50.000of this um this rune now this rune has also been used if we know this and it has been speculated
05:10:56.640as to how but in uh skernesmo when skirner goes from phrase hall to gerth and he tries to woo her
05:11:09.680uh in in in relation to his lord he's trying to tell gareth that is to to align with his lord um
05:11:19.520and again there's a lot of metaphysical stuff there about the idea of the of the sky and the
05:11:23.760earth and the ray of light between that creates that alignment but interesting thing in this
05:11:29.440story is that he says that he will curse her with three thirst runes i will curse thee i will carve
05:11:36.480them upon you and then he lists a litany of terrible things so one of the things that's
05:11:42.720really interesting about that part of the story is the three thirst rune is something that if it's
05:11:48.960being spoken about in the story culturally has significance to the audience so the audience knows
05:11:56.240you know otherwise it would have no gravity so that lends one that the the audience of the
05:12:02.240people that are listening to the poetry have a semblance and understanding of the runes that's
05:12:07.920interesting in and of itself when people say like oh runes don't have to be a part of like
05:12:11.920religious ceremonies or what have you in the story when they says the three thirst runes
05:12:17.840that wouldn't be said for no effect the audience would understand oh this is going to get serious
05:12:24.880and then the litany thereafter explains how serious this is going to get so thurza's is a
05:12:30.240dangerous room i've always considered it to be uh one that is not to be trifled with it's not
05:12:39.040one to be just led about very um you know absent-mindedly uh but again it is built around
05:12:48.720your intent if your intent is to see this axe as a catalyst of felling wood that is that you need
05:12:55.040especially in relation to maybe uh if you need if you're using like stoves for warmth and things
05:13:01.200like that it might be of great importance remember i always say the runes are based on need and that
05:13:07.200significance of your intent should first be rooted in the need of it if it is needed
05:13:13.600desperately i would say then using a rune but if it's not if you're just trying to put it on
05:13:18.320the axe to make it look cool or feel cool um then it really comes down to you know my belief of
05:13:26.720whether or not you do the full formula correctly but still it's not something to be trifled with
05:13:32.400the runes are based on utilizing for need so on that level utilizing any room should be based on
05:13:42.480a need with the intent and and then you move forward to to to manifest that in weird if there
05:13:50.080isn't a great need and you're doing it i would advise against that don't don't do that maybe
05:13:56.720write your name in runic and not really focus on a kind of a magical implementation
05:14:03.840the other thought just by and by is that thurizaz my belief is that it is a very dangerous rune to
05:14:12.000play with um it should be used with great sense of need because it can be both it can liberate
05:14:19.680and break barriers but it can also decimate and and also leave very little in its wake
05:14:28.640so therefore it's it's not um it's not always seen as a good thing it can be um dangerous and
05:14:38.040my personal works with the runes uh especially in relation to thirzaz thirzaz has always been
05:14:44.600associated with kneething and um and drawing down the weird of others separating and severing them
05:14:52.840and and putting him into a state of um catharsis and and torpor so um be careful it's based on
05:15:04.580your intent it's based on your need but thurizaz is not to be trifled with so um
05:15:12.520so spawn learned his runes from an ascended master that now resides in agartha somewhere
05:15:25.060i'm not sure but he's got this secret source of of his rune school and again i talk about how
05:15:32.860intent is so much a part of it because his understanding of the runes is built with all
05:15:40.720these rules in place those rules are extremely relevant for him and i think that's limiting in
05:15:48.880a way but i also think it's enhancing in a way when they're followed right um my i'm
05:16:00.400i'm less fearful of thorough says but i'm not gonna lie when i think about stuff
05:16:06.560thorough says uh now these and hagalas are probably the ones that i'm least
05:16:17.360not that i'm least likely to they're the ones that give me a cause for pause that i need to
05:16:22.080recalibrate my intent and make sure i'm careful with what i'm doing and careful with what i'm
05:16:28.240trying to do i don't think that they're bad i think that they're just very the circumstance
05:16:36.160matters the intent matters um yeah so i i think that there's you know
05:16:48.080put in thought of why you're doing it if your axe has thorough size on it because
05:16:53.680you want it to break through stuff and break down the wood and if that is your intent and
05:16:59.360you're focusing on that good i think that's a reasonable thing to do it's just something that
05:17:07.280i think you should give appropriate amount of thought to there's ones like wuno that i don't
05:17:12.640really think you need to think twice but this is one that i that i would think twice on and i'm i'm
05:17:21.040less concerned about it, I think, than Svan is, but it's on my short list of ones that I do
05:17:28.480make sure I have really, really purposeful thought before I do. And so I think that in and of itself
05:17:36.040says something. I think we're seeing the same thing. I'm just adding a little bit more.
05:17:40.420No, we are, but you, so you allude to it a lot though. You have a very, very structured system
05:17:47.200of how you of steps and things of how you do your runic things and mine is much more
05:17:55.600by the seat of my pants if you will i guess and i think that you know there's there's pluses minuses
05:18:02.400to either honestly um but we both agree that you know of the runes there's a few of them that you
05:18:09.220give some thought to and this is certainly one of them um side note apparently the kids these days
05:18:16.440uh have determined that uh wizard is something that you call 30 plus year old virgin i see that
05:18:25.600over in the chat in the internet lingo and good that's exactly the the way that i meant it so i
05:18:32.120maybe putting basement in front of wizard was redundant
05:18:34.880but i'm glad glad apparently i got my ear to the streets
05:18:41.500all right hey matt what is your take on france as far as the riots um i didn't see that one
05:18:57.700france is a mess um i think that france has been leading the way in being a mess
05:19:07.860since the storming of the bastille um i think this is where that leads
05:19:20.520i hope this is a catalyst for fixing some stuff if they can be fixed
05:19:26.460um and i hope that other places see the ridiculousness that is france that france
05:19:36.540has become and uh heed heed those warnings um i don't i mean i don't think i'm
05:19:48.220Um, it would be very easy to turn this into a political, um, discussion usually, and there's
05:20:00.880a lot of political topics we could talk about.
05:20:03.200I don't even think that's bad, but it's not kind of the purpose of the program.
05:20:07.680But what I will say, the protection and the advancement of our folk and our folks' development
05:20:15.840is a religious imperative, and it's in our declaration purpose. To that end, there's very
05:20:23.040little in modern France, especially compared to other nations, that is French, and that's
05:20:33.720really unfortunate. I think, you know, I shared some French fries this morning with my daughter,
05:20:41.740And that makes me much more of a Frenchman than a lot of folks who live in France right now.
05:20:48.680And I think that's saying something, unfortunately.
05:20:53.240And preserving your culture, preserving your traditions and preserving your people is is a duty that we have to our gods, to our ancestors and to our descendants.
05:21:05.880And I think that the folk of France have been very, very remiss in that duty.
05:21:16.960And hopefully, hopefully some things can change in a positive way.
05:21:24.960They had, they had Marine, Marina, and they had Marion Le Pen, and they had the Identitarian Movement.
05:21:31.900They had all these signs telling them this was going to go.
05:21:35.880and then macron gets into power and it just continues to burn uh it's it's and you know
05:21:42.980what it's we can all laugh at it but i think the laughter hides just the tragedy of it it's so
05:21:51.920sad that there's nothing to do but laugh because the laughing staunches the weeping
05:22:01.260But it's it's a sad situation for sure.
05:22:10.260Any thoughts on Rod Novery compared to Ossetree?
05:22:19.260I like I know what Rod Novery is, but whereas I may have my ear to the Internet streets, I don't particularly have my ear to those streets.
05:22:31.260um yeah I mean I've seen a lot of things that I really like but not being not reading Cyrillic
05:22:42.940not being well versed culturally in Eastern Europe or having a lot of connections there
05:22:49.620I don't think that I I'm exposed to it as much as I might be otherwise
05:22:54.720I have not been aware of any domestic like United States practice of rod and ovary that's been
05:23:05.560significant in any way that I'm aware of but I am aware in Eastern Europe and in Russia there's
05:23:11.240you know some really cool things going on from what I've heard but I admit my ignorance on that
05:23:17.660Svon do you know a little bit more about rod and ovary and how that's how that's going well I think
05:23:23.800too when you say your ignorance of it there's a reason that i think even for you know people that
05:23:28.840have peered into it there's some confusion a lot of confusion actually so rodinovary is like
05:23:35.480probably the first big move towards unifying extremely uh intricate variations you have
05:23:45.240everything from the lotnians the belarusians the uh lithuanians um the the some of the polish not
05:23:53.400a lot um a lot of them are still holding true to the foreign faith um the the ukrainians obviously
05:24:02.440uh huge amounts there mix and oftentimes intermixed with germanic teutonic arianism
05:24:08.120with slavic arianism they're kind of a hybrid there in ukraine um they're extremely faceted
05:24:15.000everywhere you go um and there's some great pages like on twitter uh there's a uh i believe they're
05:24:20.920latvian and uh their um style is called dievs i believe it's named after uh the their uh
05:24:33.240stasis god of tripartite um and it's extremely interesting but there's not a lot that survived
05:24:40.520christianity did one hell of a number on it mainly because when the turks invaded
05:24:45.480in the eastern empire all of the orthodox ran up through that area and they had a long time to sit
05:24:52.920in the mountains and kind of erode a lot of the the uh the um native faith and it really got hidden
05:25:01.960in things but 100 it is an arian faith tradition because it has the tripartite they have a dynamic
05:25:11.160god they have a catalystic god and they have a stasis god and of course there's deep connections
05:25:17.000we can see with like velez and perun just like in the um the story of har harbard with um uh
05:25:27.080thor and ovin uh we can see that same and i would i would even argue that perhaps that story was
05:25:32.520influenced by the east side of maybe the gutanish and the russians and and all of them uh but it's
05:25:41.400super multifaceted and rodanova is the first step towards kind of getting everyone under one banner
05:25:48.280because they've been so fractured for so long and they're starting to get it and i'm really
05:25:53.240crossing my fingers that that it holds true um i don't even really mind the hybridness that the
05:25:59.400ukrainians are doing where they have kind of slavic mixed with germanic because they have a
05:26:04.920got a lot of evidence that that ukraine is deeply founded and interconnected between the two people
05:26:11.400it is uh you know there's lots of roots to the teutonic folk there's lots of roots to the slavic
05:26:17.000peoples and um so they have a lot of that but it's their first attempt to really start to codify
05:26:24.600and unify under one banner and trust me we know more than anyone how hard that is to do um because
05:26:32.280you just have so many people that want to kind of run their own cart they want to be their own
05:26:38.200their own king and they they're all you know tribal leaders um and um it just it's really
05:26:45.880hard to get going the good news about them and the cool thing about them is that their culture
05:26:50.760especially through song and music is really facilitates the re-emergence of their faith
05:26:57.640um so much of their religion actually survived in folk music and dances which is pretty interesting
05:27:04.360where i think ours kind of survived in writing and in poetry so all right um
05:27:11.800um so the next question I know a lot of people do an English alphabet to Elder Futhark uh I know
05:27:23.920it's not perfect but does the AFA have a certain way they do that Svon do you understand what's
05:27:32.260being asked yeah I and we kind of hit on that before I mean obviously we use the Elder Futhark
05:27:37.720a basis and for most every instance we would write in comparative to english but there are
05:27:45.480certain situations where we would not and it would be phonetically based in the folk food arc is what
05:27:51.480i'm talking about um in the um the idea of spelling the word city uh with kenna's being a k sound and
05:28:00.440so willow being a s sound it's written in english with a c so we would add the s
05:28:09.000as it would be s-i-t-y consider though the latin in latin even though we would
05:28:16.520because we're so familiar with it it would be kivitas the c would make a hard k sound um
05:28:25.720though we don't like to hear that as well no no i know so we've we've kind of made our own what we
05:28:32.200pretend latin sounded like right and and yeah i mean uh the the cuss sound is is still there i
05:28:39.720think if we made a move towards understanding latin a little bit better then we could easily
05:28:43.480put kenna's back as what it needs to be um but in certain cases you know there's there's other
05:28:50.200things for instance uh the the ea the iei sounds those are very confusing and so we've kind of um
05:28:59.560formulated a really simple way of doing that is is unless it makes the double e sound in which we
05:29:06.600would use the ewaz rune it's written as it would normally be written because there are many
05:29:11.480variations in english whether it's you know meat like as we're going to meet together or it's meat
05:29:16.920that we're going to eat or it's um you know a meter or you know there's lots of different ways
05:29:24.040in which it's hard to codify so we made some really simple explanations on how the uh the uh
05:29:30.440the folk food art works is basically it works directly in relation to the spelling of english
05:29:35.960or your native language if you're say if you're speaking german you would write the folk through
05:29:39.560thark in those rules um except when it applies to say certain sounds that don't match with with the
05:29:48.840visual like c and k and things like that um otherwise you can never go wrong by just kind of
05:29:55.080placing those unilaterally um and the i mean there's other you know rules obviously like when
05:30:01.000When, for instance, the vowel sounds for uruz, uruz usually is used for the oo, double o sound, but also the uh, like as in up, but not o, like as in hope or scope.
05:30:17.160That's the othalarun, even though technically both of them are kind of an o sound.
05:30:22.180So it gets a lot of people get confused.
05:30:24.480And the other one that really confuses people, I think, is the short E, the long E, and the soft E.
05:30:32.880Isa is short, like as an E slummed, or ice.
05:30:37.740It's the E and I, and then the long double E in Iwas, and then Ewas is the horse rune,
05:30:46.020which is like close to like equos, or equa, the equestrian.
05:30:51.120um it's the uh it's a short dropped s sound so in a way we kind of have three e sounds and that
05:30:59.260sounds very crazy but i just explained how we kind of have three o sounds as well and in english and
05:31:05.180and languages are like that where they seem very very confusing so you look for context
05:31:10.160look for collaborative relation with your native language and then the last and final thing you do
05:31:17.140is fall on phonetic if you need to and that helps with context so all right um
05:31:28.100thoughts on the web of weird symbol it's made of nine lines and symmetrical not sure where it
05:31:34.500started i don't know the origins of that as well i know there was kind of a snowflakey design that
05:31:41.700was in a what was it a hexagon that was very similar and had a similar intent but i don't really know
05:31:51.300where um where that came about i've seen that places i don't have anything particularly
05:32:03.540negative i think it's kind of cool um it's fine do you have any any thoughts or any insight on
05:32:08.820that as a symbol yeah um well my my esoteric teacher um the the uh he's passed away as of late
05:32:21.220so where he has ended up who knows what roads he's on now um he used that symbol a lot because
05:32:28.260it encapsulated all the runes in it so the um the uh three staves up three staves left three
05:32:38.500staves right all interlaced uh were was a huge focal point in um my runic um
05:32:49.620like training so one of the things that we used to do is make that image on a piece of white
05:32:54.900cardboard or white board and then picture think of a rune say the rune and then picture it in the
05:33:02.900grid as we called it the grid and it was like you could see that rune and then you would hold on to
05:33:08.500that image even though you're looking at the the grid itself i know it's sometimes referred to as
05:33:13.460other things but we always called it the grid and um you would try to find the rune and picture it
05:33:17.940in there and then when you say another rune you would then picture the next room but it contains
05:33:23.380all the runes within it um and oftentimes in all other variational forms no matter what futhar
05:33:29.700whether it's armanin or elder they're all there so i i have a lot of but i don't know where it
05:33:38.820came from the origin of that i don't know i i remember seeing i think the oldest thing i've
05:33:43.300ever seen it was was in a book and it was drawn as twigs like uh actual staves with little twigs
05:33:51.060and leaves and it looked like an old print but i i don't know if that was just done on purpose or not
05:33:57.060to make it look vintage or old outside of that i don't have any knowledge as to where it might have
05:34:02.260shown up um all right and then last question we've got has sigerheim considered uh making
05:34:16.660contingency plans for their people in case of different emergencies um yes and i think a lot
05:34:23.140of people get more into that than i do but the biggest contingency plan is sigerheim itself
05:34:32.100not just sigerheim but greater sigerheim um getting our people to move there there will
05:34:40.980obviously be families that live on sigerheim proper but getting as many afa members as would
05:34:48.740like to to move into that county is the plan it is the contingency plan um us all being close
05:34:57.780together is a good thing it is a good thing in times of abundance and it's an even better
05:35:05.700or more necessary good thing in times of of trouble and hardship so
05:35:17.500Once we get more services and more things, I think we can develop better infrastructure for certain things.
05:35:25.900But contained in the dream of Sigurheim, and once we get more housing and things there, the idea is to have a spot for people to stay if they find themselves without a place to live for a time,
05:35:38.000if they find themselves old and without support, if they find themselves crippled and without
05:35:44.520support, we'll have place for them. If we find people displaced, we'll be able to help out.
05:35:50.280We'll also be a central spot that we'll be able to house and feed and take care of our folk if
05:35:55.580they run into harm to hard times there. And it's also located in a really good part of the country
05:36:02.040where it's got a lot of sources of water nearby we've got um very quick and easy access to many
05:36:10.840surrounding states to a lot of different places so i think it's a really important hub to have
05:36:17.480depending upon emergencies and getting our people there i think is is the the best thing we can do
05:36:25.400and i think that's what we got for this evening i go ahead swan i just wanted to say one thing i
05:36:30.920just was looking at some of the questions here one thing um of bjorn 40 14 said in my opinion we
05:36:39.480should be phonetic and not transliterative um that is very i was in that mindset a little while back
05:36:48.200until you really start trying to expound on ideas phonetic runic work is extremely hard
05:36:57.800versus transliterative because again certain words especially in english are repetitive
05:37:03.640you know there's there there and there and so doing transliterative actually helps to make a
05:37:10.760lot of context otherwise people spend huge amount of time trying to decipher what's being said and
05:37:17.720it takes a vast amount of time so going transliterative allowed more people to be able to
05:37:24.280translate faster the other thing futhork the anglo-saxon runes are best for english
05:37:30.920that is somewhat correct but at the same time the extra lettering there's 32 letters and when
05:37:37.480we start to get into ea ae and ior and certain things like that they don't we don't use a lot
05:37:46.360of those combinations anymore and um so you know the the other part problem is not a lot of people
05:37:53.720know the anglo um huthork and some of the other runes are really mixed up uh whereas in the food
05:38:01.320orc um the ah rune that most everyone knows in every form is now more of an o sound and that
05:38:10.280would really throw people off so i like the food orc i'm not down downing it at all and i think
05:38:16.120there's a mystery to it but perhaps you know if there was a need be perhaps we could incorporate
05:38:23.080more into that but right now everyone's mainstay was the elder futhark so the elder futhark became
05:38:30.520the mainstay of the um folk futhark as far as its usage i just wanted to cover those two points
05:38:36.840because i saw those i know they're probably long gone and asleep by now but if they listen to this
05:38:41.720and they listen to the end the secrets are waiting there there we go all right guys thank you all so
05:38:48.920much for being on tonight swan thank you once again for being here and sharing your wisdom with
05:38:53.880us we appreciate it thanks for having me um it's been a good year i'm excited for the year to come
05:39:01.880um i appreciate our audience you guys are great i look forward to it and
05:39:07.880And I will be at Sigurheim or very close to Sigurheim doing my broadcast next week.